Julian Dorey Podcast - [VIDEO] - Tommy G: Investigating America's Deadliest Hoods, War on CNN, the Problem w/ Jesus | 197

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

(***TIMESTAMPS in Description Below) ~ Tommy G is a Documentarian, Journalist, Entertainer & YouTuber. His Channel (“Tommy G”) has amassed over 1.55 Million Subscribers to date. EPISODE LINKS: - BUY Guest’s Books & Films IN MY AMAZON STORE: https://amzn.to/3RPu952  - Julian Dorey PODCAST MERCH: https://juliandorey.myshopify.com/  - Support our Show on PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey  - Join our DISCORD: https://discord.gg/YDYwNZHC  JULIAN YT CHANNELS: - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips  - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily  - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP  TOMMY LINKS: - YT: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@TommyGMcGee  - INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/tommygmcgee/?hl=en  ***TIMESTAMPS*** 0:00 - Tommy G background; Kia Boys Story; Tommy’s early documentary days 13:54 - Documenting Criminals; Sad side of Tommy’s job; Ideas; New VICE 23:56 - JEP; NYC Gangs; Finding Stories 33:00 - Redlining, Poverty, & America’s Deadliest Hoods; Milwaukee Dangers 47:02 - Tribalism in America 51:32 - Kia Boys (Car Thieves Gang); Protecting Sources 59:04 - St. Louis: Deadliest Hood in America; Tommy turns away Feds; Rednecks & Crips 1:10:04 - $3 Trillion Failed Audit; Most Corrupt Mayor in America 1:26:08 - Naval Ravikant; Tommy’s old Megachurch (& Scandal) 1:32:37 - Tommy’s loss of Religion & faith in Jesus; that other candidate 1:43:39 - Joe Biden; Contacting Presidents 1:50:14 - Homeless video in San Francisco; That Mexican OT; Brandon Buckingham 2:00:03 - Tommy’s Dog Frank; Flow State; Simplicity in life 2:11:30 - Tommy’s previous day job; Real estate empire 2:23:02 - How Tommy met his wife; Sneako vs Brandon Buckingham; Streamer Culture 2:38:30 - Investing into the community; Tommy’s Kensington Zombie Video; Tommy vs CNN 2:49:41 - Private Prisons 2:56:38 - “Boiling your own pot”; Tommy’s direction for documentaries 3:00:05 - How stories get to Tommy CREDITS: - Hosted & Produced by Julian D. Dorey - Intro & Episode Edited by Alessi Allaman ~ Get $150 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover (USING CODE: “JULIANDOREY”): https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier Julian's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey ~ Music via Artlist.io ~ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 197 - Tommy G Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up guys, if you're on Spotify right now, please follow the show so that you don't miss any future episodes and leave a 5 Tommy G. If you have not seen his YouTube channel, you are really, really missing out. This dude is one of the baddest documentarians on the entire internet. He is covering stories that the media won't, and he is funny, entertaining, and educational at the same time doing it. This conversation was loaded. We came in there amped up.

It was kind of one of those things where we were best friends right away. Love podcasts like that. So I hope you guys enjoy enjoy if you're not already subscribed you can smash that subscribe button hit that like button on the video and enjoy the show how often do you get a call from like cops or the feds looking for stuff so i've gotten two visits milwaukee pd came to my house after the key boy video i sent him to the backyard because i lived close enough to a bad area that if someone even seems to be talking to a police, even if I say nothing, it's a big risk. Oh yeah. So I sent him to my backyard on my porch. My dog was still a puppy

at the time. My little puppy started trying to this detective's leg. And then they like, they like toss this like manila folder onto my patio table. I'm like, guys, I can't say anything. I hope you understand, but I'm a journalist and you know, I wish you guys the best. They said, I just want to know one thing. Do you feel like these kids had any remorse for what they were doing? Uh, what pronouns do you use? I'm actually a they them. I don't know if I told you that. And if I misgender you, just fucking reach across the table and bitch slap me. No problem.

No problem. I actually used to be a we them boys, but I renounced that a couple years ago. Well, you're looking really good as a they them, let me tell you. Thank you. Thank you. You too. I've been with a few they them sexually, and I can say you the top of the list oh you've been with one sexually what happened there oh i don't know which one it was if it was the day or them at the time but it was fucking it

was pretty good all right well we got tommy g in the building in case people didn't already see that we are off and running here we've been talking before we've been on the podcast but dude your videos are fucking awesome thank you love your channel i love how you also you moved from being at the very beginning like a prankster on the street doing like funny like fart noise shit yes to like one of the journalists of the internet how does this happen i don't know either man like it blows my mind every day where it's like to think like okay we're we're running laps around CNN's YouTube channel or Fox's YouTube channel. And I'm not a traditional journalist. But I'm curious. I'm very curious. And I love learning about people. And so I have the best job in the world, man. I get to go talk

to people every single day that I'm like, hmm, I wonder why he thinks that way. I wonder why he does that. I wonder what his motivations are. And I get to go into the weeds, the trenches, the hard to access places in America. And we'll go beyond eventually and check people out. And it's amazing. Yeah. You do everything too. Like you put out a video recently that was on mercenaries. And then before that, you're, we'll definitely talk about that corrupt mayor. That shit was wild. Yeah. That bitch is crazy oh my god like i she seems like she would be a bad villain in a marvel movie like when they get a shitty actress to like fill a role because they didn't put enough money behind this netflix project they needed to fill it quickly yes yeah yeah dude like that we'll talk about that one but what how did you get in with the

mercenaries because we're into that topic right now he emailed me the the ceo of the redwater emailed me he's like dude when i was uh was having tough days, your prank videos made me laugh. And now I see you do documentaries. Let's work together. That was one of those emails I get within two minutes of getting it. I'm on the phone with him. Where are we doing this? When are we doing this?

That's a dream email to get. And that's how I get a lot of my leads. Everywhere I go, I'm invited into. So I get DMs. I get emails. And people all around the country are starting to invite me into their life. And it's, I love it. I love getting those invitations. What is, so Redwater. Redwater.

What a name, by the way. I get the double entendre there, but what's their story? Who do they usually work with? Where they operate out of? What can you talk about? How much I can honestly say, let's just say a lot of contracting work with three-letter agencies a lot of work on the border a lot of executive protection from presidents to celebrities to high-profile people um rescue missions if you get lost in a certain country these guys might be your last chance of making it back alive. Yeah. So they fit the bill pretty well. We were talking about Dale Comstock before camera.

I mean, that's some of the shit he does. Like, oh, someone's stuck in a country. Go and get them. We drove into an area that's about seven kilometers that the Taliban owned. It was their territory. You can't make a left or right turn. You got to go north or south down this road.

And we had to stop. We heard the Taliban on the radio. They had to set up ambushes on both ends of our small convoy. And they were getting ready to hit us. And then I realized, oh, the only way we're getting out of this is we got to run the gauntlet now. And I remember when we turned around that night, my Afghan interpreters with me, dude, as soon as I started driving, I said, shoot anything where a bad guy can hide behind it. You know, I said, don't relent until we get out of this thing. So as I'm sitting there, I'm watching the vehicles go one by one.

The firefight starts. I got time to watch the show and think about it before it's time for me to start driving my vehicle, right? And all of a sudden, I thought, you know what? I've been in a lot of ambushes, but I've never actually had to literally drive into an ambush to get out of it. But I have no choice this time. And then I started thinking, man, what if I don't make it out of this one? I am driving the one with the antennas. And so I thought about my family.

And I took a moment. I said, okay, I want to visualize every one of my children's face, everybody's face, my wife, my kids, one by one. See their face for the last time, maybe their face, their face, their face, their face is free. And then what I want to do is get that all out of my mind. So I'm no longer distracted by that. Right. And knowing that would be maybe the last time I ever think about it or see them. Find a way out.

Can you imagine that being your job? You have to figure out how, without getting bullets riddled through my body, am I going to go save this dumb tourist that got himself stuck in a war zone? Bro, I had to figure out how to get your boy at Orange Celsius downstairs. That was a battle. Yeah. Some people, do you find that guys like that, there's something in them that's built different, almost maybe from the start?

I look at it the same way I look at maybe a guy that does skydiving for a living or a guy that steals cars and drives them really fast. There's just some people, particularly men, that only feel satisfied when they are living on the edge and they have danger. And if they don't have danger in their life, they feel like the world is too ordinary or depressing. And so there's just some guys that the way that they're wired is they have a high risk profile. And I would say I identify a lot with that. I do high risky things in other ways, but to me,

that's what makes life worth living. Like we have the dice in our hands. You got to shake them up and put them on the table. I don't want to roll some bullshit. I want to like make this thing cool. Right. And so I get where they're coming from. And that's why I think I am so fascinated by people like this

because I can see part of myself. Like, obviously, I don't want to steal a car, but I can kind of understand why a kid gets the rush of doing it. You know? And that was the first video you did that really went nuts, right? Yes. The Kia gang. The Kia boys. Out, right? Yes. The Kia gang. The Kia boys.

Out in Milwaukee. Yes. Milwaukee represent baby. Now, you're not originally from Milwaukee. You're from Illinois. But when did you move out to Milwaukee? I wrestled in college at UW-Whitewater. And then when I graduated there, I was looking at sales jobs in Milwaukee in a nearby town,

Madison. Got offered in Milwaukee and I've been there ever since. Okay. So how did you get into that story? Like how did, how did those guys, I wonder this on so many of your videos and I know some of it is secret sauce, you're not going to say, but like, how do you get the Kia boys to trust you to come in with your cameras as Mr. YouTuber and report on them stealing, what was it like like 10 000 cars in a year or some shit like that like they're not one unified group but there are kids in milwaukee that have stolen dozens or hundreds of cars by themselves or with their crew like little crews of four or five um the video before that was actually technically the first documentary which was first time visiting a strip

club which shout out to my wife for letting me do that video. I enjoyed myself thoroughly and I had a great time doing that. And I met this guy in the parking lot and he's like, you know, we hit it up. He saw that video. He's like, Hey, I like working with you. Let's do something else. And I said, Hey, here's four ideas I'm working on. One of them was the Kia boy video. He FaceTimes me two minutes later and he's got Mr. E-break on Faceetime with me shysty in a kia was just rolling around his block and i'm like hello sir um would you like to meet next tuesday at three and he's a year and i'm like all right tuesday at three days see you there and the rest was history and they let you in the inner saint like because they were even saying at one point i remember the end of

the video the guy's like hey make sure you blur out those uh those tags and i'm thinking to myself you can if you if you didn't blur it good enough that can be like re-scrambled and you can find the tag so that's part of the secret sauce is and some people might get mad at this from the outside like why do you protect criminals so much but me as a journalist my job is to protect my context they're inviting me into a world that is i otherwise wouldn't see so i take it very seriously like i have tons of fentanyl dealers all sorts of people on my phone that hey when we're about to release this video facetime you facetime the guy hey have you seen through your cut yeah you like that you're good your face is blurred your voice has changed is there anything we need to edit no and like most of the time they'll be like i can't wait till this drops i

can't wait to show my friends this shit or Or they'll be posting on their Instagram story like, Tommy G documentary dropping soon. And I'm like, you're not supposed to say it's you. We had to blur you, right? You know, but they like it. People like attention. They like attention. And they like sharing their story.

Yes. There's something in that where like, they may have been felt forced to take the wrong path or something because of their environment. And obviously, like, that's their decision to do. They got to live with that. Yes. But then they want to, I guess, like, in a way, they want to glorify it as a way almost to enable themselves to continue doing it.

No? You have to justify it to yourself. You have to rationalize it. And especially when you're doing things that are either really dangerous to other people or maybe a detriment to society, you find a story to tell. And like one of the fentanyl dealers we talked to, he was kicked out of his house when he was 13 years old. His mom's boyfriend moved in and didn't want him there. So he had to make money.

So he started selling drugs. Like he wasn't even allowed back in. Like, oh, I'm going to try and sneak in and go get a bowl of cereal because I'm hungry. No, no, no. This is Brian's house now. Get out of here. So it it's like okay i kind of get right why a kid like that gets in that doesn't make it a pass like the he still has a moral responsibility that he has to wrestle with and he has to deal with on his own terms but i get it kind of yes yeah we we one of my favorite topics is environment and how it and how how we also – even in America, which is the greatest place to live in the world, we still have our problems where we don't foster the best environments and we create cycles for people.

And it's really a money thing. That's what it is. It always is though, isn't it? Yes, it always is. and so it's like you know there is a part of you that and i'm sure you even have it more than the average person like you're saying because you you get to go in the middle of it there's a part of you that has to like empathize with the circumstances that all of these people collectively in a given area may deal with well you start to think hmm if my parents raised me here how would my life be any different like when you see like certain gain-ridden areas let's just say 70 of

the young boys find themselves on the wrong path. Like who am I to think that I would have been on the good 30% or the better 30% that's, you know, chasing something that's a little bit better. And also like, I probably wouldn't have the benefit of, I probably wouldn't have a dad in the picture. My mom would probably be at work all the time. And then one thing I've thought about a lot is this is like teenage boys get into a lot of trouble i grew up in one of the safest best suburbs maybe in america but

for sure illinois crystal lake illinois great childhood i could ride my bike in any direction and never be like oh shit like don't go in this area this kid had us believe him before he grew up in like the projects the trenches of crystal i bought it real quick the trenches of crystal lake but it's like even though i grew up in those type environments, I knew friends that would sneak out at night and go into cars, go into garages, go into elementary schools, throw water balloons at cars. I participate in that. I never did any theft.

I always had a moral line in me that I never would participate in theft. So I might have snuck out with kids that they'd run off and go do something. I was more interested in lighting fireworks off or doing things like that. Or do you think also Drano bombs was a big part of my. Drano bombs. You ever heard of those? No. Oh, man.

If there's kids listening, you get a two liter bottle, tinfoil and Drano, like the plumbing solution that you poop the toilet. You know, you mix it together, screw the cap on, shake it up, set it away. And it just expands, expands, expands. It's the loudest boom and we were obsessed with putting these around so it's like i got into i never got caught but i got into a lot of trouble had i grown up in a more extreme environment maybe my trouble would have been like a kia boy right robin or stealing or doing things like that so like part of me is like

i get it but then also part of me is like why is there not enough of a moral quandary in some of these kids that they're it's like if they steal your shit it's like a come up for them but they don't even think how it could impact you yeah how do you reverse that cycle yeah you had one part in that video where you were asking them about the hypothetical of if they hit somebody yeah right on the way out it'd be your fault yeah and and and there's exactly they're like well it's their fault they're in the way out. It'd be your fault. Yeah. And exactly. They're like, well, it's their fault. They're in the way.

Yeah. And there's something in me that's like, all right, they never had the opportunity at the most basic level, clearly, to even distinguish right and wrong.

Yeah. And you see some of their parents, like, I talked to one of the kids in that video. I talked to his mom recently and I was hoping

it was going to be like a full circle story. Like, oh, he's making better decisions. He's doing well well he's doing much worse things than stealing cars now and on the podcast i'm not going to release the episode because i don't think it's going to make her look good and i don't want to like i don't want to have a unwanted attention come out to her she's like by the way my son was never uh actually caught stealing cars the only thing he did get a charge for was selling crack and fentanyl. And she said it was like it was like a casual thing. And I'm like, well, no wonder there's nothing at home like keeping this kid in line

because selling fentanyl to people as a 15 or 16-year-old isn't looked at as like holy shit. Very not good. Very not good. So what do you expect from a kid like that when his boundaries are like that at home? But you made a relationship with his mom while you're filming the first time around i didn't know her the first time around oh you didn't know when it first came out he told her oh yeah um tommy g paid me like 400 bucks to make it a skit because he wanted to get out of trouble so she was posting on facebook tell tommy g by his fake ass documentary to hit me up and like

listed her phone number. And I was just like, and then like two years later, I just called her up and we had a really good conversation and you know, we felt each other out. And I, cause I want, I want to be part of Mr. E-Break's future if he's not involved in certain shit. Right now he's involved in some really dangerous shit. I can't invite him. I like, if he was doing safe, good stuff, I would pay for his tuition to a fight gym or boxing gym in a second

but because i know what just what might be in his backpack when he comes into that gym the type of people he knows the beefs he like he's just not he's not a safe kid to have around in an environment you want to be safe so there's not there's only so much you can do for a kid like that and it's you know i would be a very tiny piece of anything that happens to him but like i try to even when that the first video came out i try to facilitate uh people trying to reach out to him there's a black panther leader that wanted to talk to him they got that guy reached out black panther leader yeah they're kind of they're still around they're still around still not very they're not they're not very strong anymore but um i forgot about them there was like a local activist type guy that wanted to like

mentor him. Mr. Ebray clowned him, pretending he was Domino's Pizza. I didn't order pepperoni. He was clowning him in the text message. Then an HVAC opportunity came up because he mentioned the video. He wanted to get into HVAC. He never replied. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't get him to drink.

When he decides there's other things that he wants to consider he has my number and i'd be happy to help him but at the moment he's a little scary yeah threat dude he's a straight up threat but that's pretty cool though that you have and publicly with it too like have the word on that kind of thing and and want to do what you can and that is the bottom line you can do do what you can, but like you said, you can't make him totally change his life around, but you can help him if he wants to get to that point. I always think about it like this. You can't boil the whole ocean, but you can boil your little pot of water. I'm going to have my little pot of water over the stove as long as I

can. And you can do what you can do. So how did that, that was the second one you said. And what year was that? Was that 2020 still or 2021? Maybe even 2022. Okay, 2022. Once – you said you had four ideas going into that one and the Kia Boys was one of them. Yeah. First of all, how do you come up with ideas?

They're always floating into my head, dude. I just can't – I could cover my ears and they still float in there. That's just how my brain is. I'm always thinking about these things and also like flow moment like flow state activities that things are always coming in so i take my dog for a walk i gotta bring my phone so i can write down an idea i go run in the woods because ideas are a weird little creature because if you don't like lock it in or write it down or make sure it's somewhere that you can remember it you might it might be a year or years or never that it flows back into your head again how often do i talk about this yes so an idea is a very i don't

know if it's a spiritual thing but some sort of special thing that somehow the universe said you know i'm going to float this into your head julian and you get to run with it and if you don't someone else will because there's seven other billion people hustling trying to make things happen on this planet and action is as big as the idea. But I do notice with a lot of creators, there's some people that are lazy with the idea side of it. They're good with the execution, but they'd rather copy another format or another style. Whereas the best version of yourself will always be your own idea. It's never going to be running with someone else's idea that you're going to thrive.

Yes. Alessi actually put this really, really well off camera yesterday when we were talking about it but he's like it's almost like tommy took some of the some of the concepts of speed of the edit from like you know the mr beast lane but made documentaries on stories that people weren't covering and made it fun at the same time while it's serious shit and there's like i can look around youtube maybe we'd find something like that but when i watch your videos i was like i've never seen this before you're thank you you're you're giving value but it's also somehow like darkly funny the whole time too and it's it's like education

entertainment and documentary and vlog mixed all into one yes a big piece of like the secret sauce and the credit goes to miguel out there editing like he put so many cool spins on it that make it entertaining like i almost think like we're like a three-man vice media to also like edits like a music video dude that's how we mix it all in together i was just you took the words out of my mouth you're like what vice used to be and is supposed and they were such a huge influence i remember watching countless videos just thinking like what a cool job never thinking that that'd ever be me doing something like that because i don't have the journalist degree i don't have the formal education i don't have the connections and it's i think do they just

go under permanently or are they still around vice we can look that up alessia i think that's sad because they made so they have so many amazing pieces out there dude that yeah that to me like what they started with i think they started to get way too political yes and that's not the role of the like i'm i'm not supposed to like tell people what to think i'm supposed to to show people something, and they come to their own conclusion. And I think that's another reason why we keep getting these connections. It's like, I'm going to go into your life in a very fair, curious, friendly way and see where it leads. I don't have mainstream media.

A lot of times, RIP mainstream media, by the way. Hey, they've had a good run, but sorry, guys. It's kind of over for you. We're going to visit the CNN headquarters in a couple days here and pay you guys a visit but um they did a little hit piece about me and my friend brandon buckingham when me and him covered kensington pennsylvania it was exploitation but when they copied the exact same style that we did there and did themselves that's journalism yeah they don't like that they don't like when you do their job better than them dude the other thing that blows my mind that like i don't even believe half the time is their kensington piece has 50 000 views

mine is five or six million brandon's has one or two million who'd have thought that two idiots like us would be running circles around these bastards but it feels so good honestly like to think that we're onto something and it's i don't the is, we don't, we don't have an agenda. We try and be honest. Maybe we try to be a little funny and we also try to make it entertaining and we can cut it well.

We know what to look for. But for some reason, they just don't get it. And if they want to survive, they should hire people doing what we're doing and run it under their own platform. They won't.

They won't though. And they won't survive. They're pussies. Yeah, they are. It's, it it's really it's like the most it's like watching a train crash in slow motion you know it's happening you're trying to yell out like and they know it too and they do too but they still they will double and triple down on everything almost like they think oh well we're already so deep let's just get as many people to hate us as possible because that'll at least keep the clicks going on the two minute videos online do you think a cnn reporter will

ever be seen wearing a sweatshirt on the street no even if they just like made it more casual and approachable right i feel like they would start to get wind back in their cells i just have someone who's literally just down to earth there to ask questions maybe they would pick back up but i feel like they've actually harpooned their brand so badly that I don't know if they can recover. The younger generation is just like, yeah, we're over it. We don't even consider you guys news anymore. Hey guys, if you have a second,

please be sure to share this episode around on social media and with your friends, whether it's Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, doesn't matter. It's all a huge help. It gets new eyeballs on the show and it allows us to grow and survive. So thank you to all of you who have already been doing that, and thank you to all of you who are going to do so now. Alessi, can you pull up the average age of the viewers of CNN, Fox, and News?

I can tell you what it is. It's going to be high 60s and low 70s. Boomer. Exactly. Shout out to Boomer. I love a lot of boomers. I know they get a lot of shit nowadays. My mom's a boomer.

She's a great lady. Stepdad's a boomer she's a great lady stepdad's a boomer he's a great man i know a lot of good boomers but their uh television viewing practices are going extinct that's right just as when we're 70 the shit that we came up on is there's gonna be something new too that's just how it goes that's right but it's always cool when you see older people who are like staying with things and on top of stuff oh yeah yeah i always want to be that yeah sure yeah but yeah do we have that okay cnn's median age was 67 this year up from 60 in 2017 within six years see what it did it moved metrically with the people aging meaning they got no new young viewers according to the media you know what i think they should do they should sponsor nursing homes so like every nursing home has cnn on every tv that's like

written into the deal like at least eight hours a day have to be showing our program and we'll like help with like applesauce and like stipends and shit that would be a good business move for them i feel i want to know what they're doing at the airports there's some secret deals going on oh because it's always playing oh yeah you walk into cnn fox fucking hln every time like is it just because hey you know the the there's a lot of boomers that are in the airport. This is what they like to see. We're just providing for the customer. Or do you think there's some back alley deals where CNN is like, you know what?

Denver Airport will give you a little bit of kickback. We got the Epstein fund is surplusing right now. How long did it take? 20 minutes? We got the Epstein in 20 minutes we got that steven 20 minutes shout out my dog i'm just kidding that guy what are you doing that video uh if he was still alive i'd be really interested but like what am i gonna i guess if someone can send me the documents like that story broke and they blew it over already like everyone that was supposed to be named was

like a classified name so they like released it without really telling us anything yeah and then the new next news cycle came up if someone out there has the documents actually is that even here's the thing here's a real question i would love to cover it because it's extremely important yeah the powers that be though like will i either get will i get killed will i get shadow banned will i get like what levers of control is there out there that if someone like me or you actually says these names how dangerous is it to what we do what do you think i think it could be pretty dangerous depending on how deep you go with it i think if you stay somewhat surface level and say yeah really bad guy you know he was a predator did

all these horrible things he was probably intel asset and you know the obvious things okay that's par for the course but if you start getting down to moving around dates and names and figures and money and track following the money like you know good government agents say you're supposed to do yeah then they go oh no no not too much why so i feel like we've been investing an awful lot into the irs lately the irs has to have an epstein division if they're serious about the truth if they're serious about counting every penny don't look at the guy that's venmoing their carpenter friend 600 bucks for helping the bathroom with a project they were doing on the weekend look into the epstein team yeah they're not let's start a petition dude yeah let's start it gets at

least three signatures there's three of us in this room right i don't know if three signatures will move the the water on this but maybe who knows maybe if we got three million they'd probably shut it down yeah and we'd be late we'd be uh you know shot ourselves in the back of the head twice yeah yeah that's i don't plan on doing it anytime soon just in case anyone's by the way what what are what are you doing in new york this time we got an underground fight club to go to we got a motorcycle club our first one percenter club which those guys are really hard who are they the loose cannons that's what they call themselves okay uh we are going to the most dangerous projects in new york with arguably one of the most dangerous games the trinitarios. We're going to visit them

Sounds fun a little block party Yeah, bring your bandana, okay And oh, there's this vigilante group out in Hartford, Connecticut I don't know if you guys heard about them, but they're patrolling their neighborhood with guns and they're cleaning up the trash It's like wait, they're cleaning up the track. They're like it's like a couple pastors the community leaders or George Zimmerman type shit It's like a couple pastors like community leaders like george zimmerman type shit it's like it seemed like they're good guys it seemed like they're so sick of the crime yeah that they're like you know what if the cops can't stop it we're gonna say something about it because we're tired of like people running and gunning for no reason what's the legality there in new or in connecticut i said new Jersey. In Connecticut, they can conceal carry. They can't open carry.

Okay. But if they're lawfully, they can patrol a neighborhood. They're not like pointing, like, hey, you, you know, pick up the trash. Come on over here. I think they just have it tucked in a safe place, pointing away from their wiener, and then they are cleaning up trash as they go. And if someone looks criminal, they're ready, but they might have to pull it out you know

have they had to take action yet i will be asking them that i that would be a good question to add to the list interesting yes and what's the deal with the with the biker gang how do you like and again don't reveal your secret sauce here but how do you even get in contact he emailed me too oh i love getting these emails my emails and dms are full of people around the country hey come to pine ridge hey come so like i'm invited everywhere i go there's nowhere i go that i don't have a contact in place and a plan of attack there's nowhere i just wander in and see if i can make it work so that it also greases the skids because it's like okay like i might say hey like for this projects okay I'm gonna talk to some Trinitarios I want to

talk to a guy that was in prison that's turned himself around I want to talk to an old lady that has her mom that has sons that have been in the street and what she can say about it I want to talk to some regular civilians I want to talk to the character of the block who's the funny guy or the guy that said like knows the history so they have it like a few things in their mind like okay i gotta talk to jerry gotta talk to miss smith and then we just roll run and go and go and these are all different stories though so it'll be different videos yes so you so you make you also make the most of your time like if you go to an area what i'm discovering after talking to a lot of youtubers is we are at the top of the line for efficiency. So we'll go to a place for five days

and hit five videos and three podcasts. I love my family. I love being home. So one of the reasons we make it efficient is so I don't have to be outside of Milwaukee that often. Congrats on your new baby, by the way. Thank you, baby boy, Ben. Love that guy. Was holding him this morning. It made me tear up. It's just so fun when he's smiling. That's so cool, man. He's starting to laugh. He's trying to laugh, but no noise is coming tear up like it's just so fun when he's smiling and so cool man he's like starting to laugh like he's trying to laugh but like no noise is coming out so he's just like

silently like doing that and um you're gonna have him in a bulletproof vest when he's five years old going into the hood you know i wonder like that is something i have to consider is how much do i expose him to this stuff like the other thing i do i do a lot of real estate in the trenches too and so it's like you do a lot of what real estate oh trenches too. And so it's like- You do a lot of what? Real estate. Oh, like as a business? Yes. Interesting. Okay. YouTube is not going to last forever and I don't want to get a day job ever.

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that be kick me off youtube maybe people won't find me interesting anymore in a year who knows like what the trajectory is i think if we keep our foot in the gas and keep getting better that we have a long time on this platform but i don't want to get over confident very smart um so i do real estate but it's like when i'm pulling up on 11th and keith do i bring my one year old with me do i wait till he's two at what age is it okay and then do i need to bring a gun i don't ever usually have a gun so it's like i don't know it's but part of me is like he should see it he should and it's not that like yes these are scary places oh man if a gangster really wants to like try something

with me while i have my baby uh if satan – actually, I hope Satan does exist for a guy like that. I hope that a really horrible afterlife exists for a guy like that, if someone does try and rob me at gunpoint with a baby. So maybe a baby is a get-out-of-jail-free card. They're like, oh, I would have robbed your ass, but you had the baby, so I passed on you. Well, you see a lot of these journalists in war zones like literally in the middle of lines and once in a while we'll hear someone got hit with shrapnel and died but usually like they're guys can literally be shooting each other but they're like oh journalists hi like even the most enemies it seems like there's a similar kind of line at least from what the

viewer can see on on your, there's a similar kind of line that you are treated with. Do you feel that when you're talking with these guys? Like I'm almost like... Untouchable. I don't want to say that. I don't want to jinx it. But people want to take care of us. If they're inviting us to their hood, their trailer park, their you name it, it would be a bad look on them if I got smoked on their block. So if they really run shit and I try and make sure I do go with the guys that run some sort of shit, you know, I should be okay.

But like, then you get into these situations you were talking about off camera, the St. Louis video where you might be surrounded with by 20 guys with guns, including 10 year olds with submachine guns and the car that they don't recognize will drive by and people will up their gun on them. And it's just like an old lady coming home from work. And that's how some of these places, they beef a block away. Yeah, broad daylight. Could you imagine how stressful that would be if your enemies lived one block away?

No. That'd be ridiculous. That'd be horrible. Yeah. But that's the thing. You can drive across tax lines. No. That would be ridiculous. It would be horrible. Yeah. It's a whole – but that's the thing. You can drive across tax lines. I say it like that, right?

I like how you say it like that. A place where you have property tax on a one-acre, half-acre property, $16,000, and then less than a mile away, you got a place where the property tax on the same place is $500. Yes. Right? Yes. And it can yes and it can totally set it can create separate worlds i mean there was even i think there was like a documentary maybe made called like park avenue or something we can look it up about in new york you go up park avenue it's like this bougie beautiful spot all these big buildings they don't let people like

me in places like that yeah you keep going not anymore once you get far enough north it's crazy but that's the thing it's interesting you say tax lines because what do taxes fund for the kids the schools that's right and so you have one place milwaukee like whitefish bay it's not blackfish bay it's whitefish bay shorewood those places have very great school systems and school zones and then you have places that are literally a five-minute drive, 10-minute drive that are like, what the hell is going on in here? Like you have to walk through a metal detector to get into a high school and the kids are wearing like, you know,

shiesty masks or they're wearing the COVID mask, but it's really just to, you know, keep undercover. And who knows how many of these kids do have guns on them. And it's like, how is a kid supposed to learn in a place like this yeah they're they're set up they're set up to fail i mean it's i think about that often i'm almost like is some of this by design i think it was a lot in the past like red lining was a really real thing can you explain that to people redlining is well i think it was specifically black folks but i don't know if it applied to other races too but basically like you couldn't move out of certain areas. You couldn't move into the white areas

or the nice areas. And I think that was a practice that happened to the late 80s, which is just around the corner in the terms of the history book. And so then people are stuck. And then let's take a Midwest town like Milwaukee or Flint or Detroit. A lot of those folks had their grandparents now were doing well. They were middle class. They worked at the factory. They worked at the plant. All those jobs went overseas to China, Mexico.

And all of a sudden, there's literally no jobs except for fast food work or if you want to do... The most popular jobs in Milwaukee in the hood right now are adult home healthcare. So someone's grandpa that is poor right lives on Medicaid and then there's a house that you know three or four of those guys stay and someone watched them around the clock or day cares and most those workers I see the check stubs because they apply to the properties I have they're doing $13 an hour $14 an hour rent is skyrocketing so

even a piece of shit place like Milwaukee was actually there's a book called evicted that was written about Milwaukee it's like the slumlord there's a lot of slumlord places in the country but there's a lot of slumlords in milwaukee i've walked hundreds of properties in milwaukee so i've walked places that literally there's a like a hole in the ceiling a big hole in the ceiling coming from through the second floor through the first floor because the landlord hasn't replaced the roof and it just they have a bucket in their living room uh places where it's like i've asked people like people have asked like hey are you renting my sink hasn't worked in three weeks or three months and it's like what the how are you still paying rent there's slumlords

but then there's also like i've had really terrible tenants i just paid uh 17k to renovate a place that some lady beat to shit in six months. How did she beat it to shit? She left her – like I guess she left three dogs in there for like a week by themselves. So the carpet was ripped out. There was poop in every room. And she owed me four months of rent. So like I tried to work with her.

So I lost that rent. I had to redo the entire house. And you can't take her to court. I mean I usually don't do anything after the eviction i actually try never like i've never had a sheriff take someone out like that's that's really it can go but always like i give them so many options to get out of it um but her in particular is the only person i file a judgment against because i'm like when i walked in and saw how bad she fucked the place up, I'm just like, I was just going to let the whatever, the five or six grand slide. But now that you did this to the place, I'm at least going to let every landlord that you are going to apply to see it on your record.

Because that was bullshit. It was terrible. Yeah, it's horrible. I mean, especially when something's not there, people get a little loose with things. And it was nice. That's a whole other level. One of the things I try and do, I'll show you a couple of the pictures like i'm going to show you a pictures of a property you work on an iphone fucking 12 it's one of the minis it's one of the minis but you're in okay is

that a case it's a little case i probably should get a bigger one because i drop this shit all the time but look look at the pictures in this place um that place is in a fucking war zone literally just clicked off it sorry let's see let's this is also in a war zone but they're right here 11 this is your place 11th and atkinson yeah so outside there's literally a wrap around a tree of some memorial to a person that got shot out there but this is beautiful it's beautiful so our business model is in the hood is we'll buy a place that was like abandoned for three years or it's cheap. We might buy a place for $30K, $35K, put $25K into it, make it the nice house on the block a long ways away.

And then we get a person that wants to live there forever because they're like, holy shit, this is on 11th and Atkinson. This is on 11th and Keefe. They move in and they think it's a scam at first until they walk in. They're like, there's no way this place is here our bet is that people are going to want to love that place as much as we did and to invest into it that they're going to want to be there for years so no turnover they raise a family there we'll see i mean we were burned by this other lady that yeah that's not good but you win some you lose some you win some you lose some but we we've

we've talked a little bit about you going to st louis i think you've done a couple videos there right yeah i hope it's not the most dangerous city in 2024 because i really don't want to go back there again what how do they measure it being most dangerous is it like homicides homicide they'll have like murder rate per capita right yeah so how do you fix a place like that? Is it fixable? That, well, one, that's like the multi-billion dollar question because I think like there's an attitude in the hood that I think I don't quite agree with, which is like, well, they don't want to see us win. I actually think the opposite. I think a lot of people want to see the hood do well. I don't think people want to live in areas where they're afraid of gunshots. They want to be afraid of robberies. They don't want to be afraid of reckless drivers. I think

people want to see other people win because it's better for everyone if everyone's winning. How do you fix a place like that? Right now, it's like pushing a really heavy rock up a mountain because there's so many things you have to overcome to fix it. I think both of us probably subscribe to the ideology of like individual culture means a lot and like that's the only thing you can control yes i think people have to have a little bit of different priorities but let's just say okay we'll cover in a different a few different areas what can the government do i don't think daddy government's ever going to fix anything but if they can have a little bit of momentum be added, what I think they can do is recruit really good paying manufacturing jobs, plant jobs back to that area.

So that tons of people have high paying wages that they can eventually become homeowners or move out to a different area or at least stabilize an area. Because I'll reference that book Evicted again. In Milwaukee, one out of every nine single moms gets evicted every single year so you wonder why blocks are really crazy there's no more like oh that's mr smith that's mr johnson that's mr whatever people are all it's like a shuffling deck yeah so now you don't get time to hey why do i get to why should i meet this new lady that just moved in she's probably gonna be gone in a year anyways so now there's a lot more. So bring back really good jobs that people can be proud of. They can buy homes with, and they can be stable. I would say if I was, this is not

a popular thing to say, especially if I was in the hood, but I would say I would recruit like the best police people I could find. I'd make, and I'm not saying like the bruisers, but I'm saying people that aren't afraid and people that are going to hold people accountable. If you rob somebody, sorry, but you're going to get caught. If you kill somebody, the homicide solve rate in a city like Milwaukee, I think, is like 40%. 40%. Chicago, I think it's like 30%. Isn't Milwaukee where they had that viral sheriff video where he was talking about all the murders that happen and some reporter was bothering about something he just goes off on

her yeah yes that's milwaukee can we pull up that video a little lessy it's going to be like milwaukee sheriff goes off on reporter on youtube i want people to see this because this was i want to say this was during some of the height of like the riots and stuff like that is that right there were right i'll give you the color on why the riots happened the riots happened there was there's a gentleman by the name of sylvia smith who i don't know what he was wanted for but he was in st louis yeah no no in milwaukee i'm sorry in milwaukee yeah but he was in the street he was a street guy this was where what's his face got in trouble right not george floyd no no what the fuck is it kyle rittenhouse right close kenosha which is like 40 minutes away okay got it a a black cop shot a black guy but the narrative was that got out is a white cop did it so all of a sudden the city started

burning down and if you see the video on what this guy did to a police officer he was running he turns reaches into his waistband pulls out a a gun, goes like this. As soon as he gets to here, shot. That's it. And there was a riot about that, which to me is like... What is the cop supposed to do there? Dude, is he supposed to just take submachine gun fire? But come on. Maybe if the cop shot him in the back,

I'd be like, you know what? That's messed up. Any cop that does something really wrong, take him to court, have him service time. It should be a case-by-case thing but let's see uh oh yeah we have the video there are some folks in this community that are legitimately grieving and we learn from them there are a lot of folks who believe the first amendment only applies to them and took great pains to shout down anybody that disagreed with them despite my ongoing disagreementsements with the police union, I have to say that their members tonight conducted themselves, I thought, with great restraint given the ad homin

invective that was being unleashed on their work personally and the police department generally. So, you know, this is a controversy, this is a tragedy. I said it over and over again, it's a tragedy for the family, a tragedy for Officer Manning, it's a tragedy for the community. I'm not blind to the fact that there's a lot of people lining up to take advantage of this tragedy to flag their own agendas and that was clear tonight as well. You're accused of saying something to one of the protesters or one of the people in the stands.

Did he accused you? You know, he was making so much noise, I have no idea what he's talking about. He's going into Clint Eastwood mode. He feels insulted. Too bad. Get off my lawn. What's your response to some of the people that thought you were being disrespectful by being on your phone and not being attentive?

Well, I was on my phone, and yes, that's true. I was following developments with a five-year-old little girl sitting on her dad's lap who just got shot in the head by a drive-by shooting if some of the people here gave a good god damn about the victimization of people in this community by crime i take some of their invective more seriously the greatest racial disparity in the city of milwaukee is getting shot and killed hello 80 of my homicide victims every year are African American. 80% of our aggravated assault victims are African American. 80% of our shooting victims who survived their shooting are African American. Now, they know all about the last three people that have been killed by the Milwaukee Police Department over the course of the last several years.

There's not one of them can name one of the last three homicide victims we've had in this city now there's room for i have a point on this this has been this has been something i'm actually thinking about a lot lately and it's like this julian if i invited you to my house and you're a plumber i have two leaks going on there's one leak that 99 of the water is coming from there's one leak that one percent of the water is coming from what are you going to fix 99 but we as a culture we as a in the media as a country like we're too afraid to say like oh we're just gonna like and the one percent is important a one percent leak can still mess up a house but the 99 leak is really where we need to look and for some reason you can't say it you can't talk about it especially two white guys can't talk about it but

it's like he just had 80 of them homicide victims in milwaukee are black i just looked at the most recent statistics i think it's only close to 95 oh my god so it's like there's something really crazy happening and until we're comfortable looking at it in the mirror and saying what's going on and coming up with real solutions rather than just putting our pronouns in our emails, we're going to be in the same position, if not worse, years to come. It feels like there's an incentive for teams. We talk about this with different guests on the podcast all the time. It always comes up. But the profit is in the disparity of opinions. It's not in people having common ground. Because when people watch the news, they don't watch the news when everything's good outside they watch news when everything's to shit because like oh my god what's going on right negativity sells it's like i i think what was the line there's an old show the

newsroom aaron and aaron sorkin wrote it is it is it yeah aaron sorkin wrote it but he had he called it like tragedy porn yeah or something like that and that's exactly what it is and so you know you have two sides where it may be on one end you have some legitimate videos of like a cop doing something horrible to someone who may be black in that case and yeah like you said they should be prosecuted the whole bit and we should give it attention yeah on the other end we have maybe like an epidemic of homicides that could be occurring in place x or place y and that should be given the same attention but the the the media sells on the old like stalin quote of the tragedy of one death over the statistic of many i think part of it though is like the injustice of being killed by a cop

is so much worse than like a street dude killing a street dude because it's like wait you're the ones we're supposed to trust you're the ones that are supposed to actually help justice so you do it, it's like a hundred times worse than when some other guy does it. So like part of me does understand. And there's still our case that I can't believe the cop never got in trouble. Like in New York, I believe it was the guy that got choked to death, Eric Garner, for selling cigarettes. Oh, yeah. That was so bad. He was selling cigarettes and the cops killed him and nothing happened to any of the cops so i think especially in the black community it's like you look at time after time after time where these high profile cases and nothing happens to the cops and it's just like well what the hell i thought i was an american too

you also have a pendulum too yeah right so you go you know you get a giuliani bloomberg right you're gonna move to de blasio after. And then the pendulum will swing back and forth. So you can kind of, you can never really get it like right here where there's a good balance. It always swings hard one way or the other because when it's swinging one way, that creates people more pissed off. That's why whenever there's a president of, you know, Democrat or Republican in office, the other side gets the most noise because they're not in power and they get the leverage to be like, fuck the ban. You know what I mean? That always happens. You look at every president since whatever, like you can go all the way back to Eisenhower and it's mostly like this. Sometimes you get an extra four years on one side, but that's it. The thing that's really

confusing is let's say that we were in an office environment. We had a few other guys in the room. If there was a mutual project we were working on, we'd have a round table, we'd have ideas, we'd have a whiteboard, we think about it, and we'd all come to a conclusion that helps the team. But for some reason in politics right now, they act like they literally are not part of the same goals when they should be. And it's so weird to see, like, you see it every time at the State of the Union address like when the republicans say something cool all the republicans stand up and do this shit it's like it looks so stupid yeah and if you're a republican you can never clap when the democrats say something that you actually agree with those we we gotta like wipe the board off and start drawing again because it's

like it's just frustrating to see but don't you think as human beings throughout our history, we're drawn to tribes? Of course. But why can't we be tribe America versus tribe like internal division of America? So my friend Andy Bustamante has been on this show a few times. He was... Did you ever have access to, let's say, government secrets that were so big that humanity could never find out about it? Humanity is too big of a word. So I would say I have absolutely had access to secrets that would

impact how the American public would respond. What do you mean by that? Meaning the roles that I filled, the operations that I participated in, were operations that were relevant and impactful to Americans. They were relevant and impactful to other countries as well, but never humanity as a whole. Allegedly a former CIA spook, but... Supposedly, I mean, we'll see the documents if they come out, yeah. But he had a line in episode 107 with me that is one of those that rings in my head to this day at all times,

and it's not something he wants. He's just stating what he views as a fact, and I hate the fact that he might be right. He was talking about how we need an enemy. He said we need an enemy to unite around as a country, and if you look at history of empires, countries, whatever you want to say, that is a common thing. When there's not something on the outside that people are afraid of, they have to turn inward on each other. Perfect example is how unified the country was post 9-11. Everyone had an American flag. I remember even the newspaper would put an American flag in there and people would cut it out and put it in their little windows. And it felt so good. So it it's almost like do we need to do a false flag attack in another country for us to get unified what's it gonna take

but it is true we are meant to have opposition and like you know in the medieval times we're slaying the dragon the dragon needs to be something that unifies us rather than divides us and right now it feels like each other is the dragon and it's not so healthy yeah and in a weird way guys like you have catapulted in the post-pandemic era to the front lines of this because you with no journalism degree no background that kind of stuff are going inside in in the nitty gritty of stories, man on the street type style, literally you and Miguel, and I think you have one other guy, Keegan, right? You're going in there with your cameras and you're just rolling and you're

capturing what you get. And then you're putting it in a way that is actually, yes, entertaining for people. And these other journalists, you know, the thing we're not saying out loud here is unlike you who's independent and reports to you, they're paid. And somebody pays those guys. And somebody pays those guys. And somebody pays those guys. And so somewhere that we can't see, you want to get your tinfoil hat on, it's not very tinny. I mean it's pretty accurate, right? It comes from somewhere and it directs what they then put out as a product on the ground so

even if the journalist themselves has an interest or integrity because they're under the umbrella somehow it gets it gets tainted along the way and that's why the independents are taking over the independents answer to themselves and if you answer to yourself usually if you're doing it properly you answer to your own passion and desire and curiosity. And that's always going to be a better story than someone telling you it has to fit like this into this box rather than just, there is no box. You just create the piece. Yeah. And you were talking earlier about how you're protective of your sources and you were saying like some people give you shit for that, but I don't understand why people would give you shit for that because if people want to understand why people would give you shit for that

because if people want to see what's happening and want to under want to have a better understanding of what goes on in places that they're not around or that may somehow impact them downstream because of what it's doing to society like what the hell else are you supposed to you're supposed to go in there and see if you can get that underground reporting that is what made vice great around the world not just in america they went into these places yeah and also if let's just say um someone were to get in trouble for my video i might never have the opportunity to work with future people and i think the biggest thing that like is is to just figure out how people think um i actually had there's a couple of milwaukee police officers that go to my jiu-jitsu school and they were like thank you for

putting out the kia boy video because we've been trying to explain how these kids think and how reckless and how like nihilistic and i don't want to say bloodthirsty but okay with violence that they are that we're happy people see their mentality so now when we do bust them and if it goes wrong and they shoot at us and we have to shoot back it's like did you not hear how they think kind of a thing you know yeah can we alessi can you pull that video up real quick i want to go towards the end of this real fast when he says it's going to be a bloody summer yeah yeah because it just was so it's like you said it was so exact and and kind of callous i so it's like you said it was so exact and kind of callous

I think it's like yeah yeah the second one right there alright so cut to like five minutes left and let's turn that volume on

it might be one of the last spike moments okay try that second to last spike is the volume on yeah I mean that's the guy that got me the connection

what happened over there man man he was doing hustle team B shout out my guy hustle team B the guy that got me the connection What happened over there man Man he was doing Hustle Team D Shout out my guy Hustle Team D The guy's on the fucking car My car's up there Oh you got your car parked You see people running for their life up there dude

Can you see that That's the famous Kia boy When they're in there They do this as much as they can These kids are gonna fucking die I'm getting scared Watching I'm not even in the car. He has a pipe in his left pocket so I didn't realize it was a pipe.

That was crazy. You got some cojones man, that's for sure. Have you ever gotten into a police chase before? They can't chase because they can but after you do so much dangerous shit they got terminated. You're a reckless man, you know that? Are you ever sitting in the back of the car thinking, I really wish I wasn't here because this is scary as fuck? No, I don't drive in the backseat. If I'm in the joint, I'm in the front seat.

So you're driving or nothing? Yeah. I'm Mr. E-brake. They call me Mr. E-brake. Where do you guys put these things? Oh, that's him. We ride through the hood. You see a band of house. And then you see if they got an open garage.

You see the garage, open parking. Sometimes your car be there, sometimes it won shit hello sir how you doing imagine being ups just working that route because this is crazy sir can i ask you another question professor ebrake how are you going to be an astronaut or an entrepreneur if you're getting yourself into trouble with these kias shit i don't even ride joint shit i ain't gonna lie like only time i got in the stomach car say said my boy called me like i got some fat i'm like damn i gotta draw that i ain't dry that yet so mr ebrick is honestly hilarious i told him he's going to stand up comedy dude they hit a bus oh he's getting a call about him it's the thing that's that I'm trying to process right now.

Like, to me, this is completely crazy and wild. But to you, this is just... What day is it? Tuesday, huh? Just another Tuesday for you. So can you describe what you're doing right now? Oh, shit. These motherfuckers in the system, they know these very well. Do you know any keyboarders that have been shot at while stealing a car?

Yeah. Do you have friends that have gotten in trouble? That's in my in trouble in my system right now or in jail right now. Yeah Here we go See and that's what I say like not that extreme change so what go roll roll roll Bullshit Go roll roll roll! Oh shit This was an insane video, I haven't seen it in a long time I don't understand why they do that Hey not the Chevy though, not the Chevy though

Go hit the Chevy Hold on Did you see that girlie almost? And this is why I need help with my Patreon We're trying to take shit to the next level right now. We're doing more angles, more cuts, more scenes. We're on the block kind of doing dangerous shit. This is some wild shit, so Patreon link in bio.

Every time they pass my car, I'm like, please not my car. Please not my car. These kids, it's like a fucking ping pong to them. That's how casual they are about stealing a car. Should we clear out of here? Yes, we should. They're calling the police. Okay, shit's getting hot. Yeah, hell yeah. I see y'all gonna smack that motherfucker. pong to them that's how casual they are about stealing a car and should we clear out of here okay it's just getting hot yeah i see how we're gonna smack that i told you he didn't tell us that yeah i'll tell you guys like this all right first thanks for giving us a show that was something i've never seen before in person the other thing is as like a big brother

i just hope that you guys stay okay stay safe i don't want to see anything bad happen to you guys, okay? That's a freshly stolen car. All right Make sure y'all blow out the plates I wish the best for you guys. I hope you stay safe. Well, maybe you become a professional boxer Maybe you become an astronaut. Yeah, you know what I mean? So you guys got any final thoughts or anything you want to say to the camera? What about to the people Milwaukee out there? Say dangerous man summer buddy summer man. Yeah a lot of niggas gonna die. It ain't meant for a lot of niggas Look at my face when he said that I was like, I was trying to give him a softball to redeem himself like okay

He said a lot of crazy shit. Like do you have any positive message to end things off bloody summer bloody summer? I was like, oh man, how do you keep a straight fate like that like that was a pretty clean like okay whatever like how do you keep a straight face with that i guess i just try and stay in the moment as best as possible and some of it is so wild that you're still like kind of processing it as it's happening i mean i think that they hit a school bus two blocks away he's just gonna call chill they almost crashed into the neighbors front lawn when they were trying to show off. That's the other thing. We did learn a lot from the Kiwoy video.

I don't film with minors anymore. I didn't know they were minors because I didn't want to ask them too many questions on the phone. I mean, the one guy was like four feet tall. I know. I know. But here's the thing. When I was on FaceTime with him, I didn't want to ask him too many questions to get him spooked about me. But then after that, I was like,

the 18 and below are so reckless. It's the 14, 15-year-old kids that are doing some of the most crazy shit right now. So it's like, I need to film with a guy that at least is considered an adult because otherwise the young kids will unnecessarily do stuff to like... I'd never have once gone to a place and be like, pull out every gun you've ever owned in your life.

But sometimes you'll show up and they'll be like, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like you have to tell them like the St. Louis video. Like, hey, please don't point that at my camera guy. Miguel's out there just getting heat turned on him. That was – in that video, you were asking the kid though. There was one, the St. Louis one. You were asking him like, what do you think they should teach in school and he's like i think they should teach everyone how to use a gun everybody should have a gun and i'm looking around i'm like

well all their guns are probably illegal too i take it right st louis is very pro gun laws like if you like slanging and banging it's a good city for you to be like what slinging and banging oh slinging and banging that white boy in the st louis video uh beat his murder charge uh free my free my boy he actually just released a rap song called first day out actually this is this might be worth seeing um why am i why am i uh his name is cts law should he have beat this murder charge i think actually like it was self-defense. Okay. But he's like, man. Oh,

so, oh, so he admitted it. He is the, look at that guy. Look at that motherfucker. He's the blackest white guy I've ever met in my life, dude.

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That's how St. Louis is, dude. Look at him. It's him and all black guys and these guns are not just like run-of-the-mill oh no they're nice they're nice joe ted i would have a hey shout out shout out my dog cts low wick we might do like a hardest white boy in america episode with him what was the so what was the video you did with him the first time was it specifically on him or was he a part of just he showed i didn't even know who i was meeting that day like we just had this one guy um he's gonna be mad that i forget his name but we had a guy like yeah you'll link up with my boys there's some rappers pull up to

this block and all of a sudden all those kids are there with the guns out and i'm like oh my god what are we doing dude like is this even and then like every car they would drive by they'd be like watching it i'm just like like looking at where i should like if i need to run where i should run like i'm like and then they asked if i want to like hold one of them and then go to a corner store with while holding one of their guns i'm just thinking is there a there's a legal problem with that right you can't just do that i wouldn't yeah if i touch it i'd probably be linked to like 14 murders by now, dude. How often do you get a call from like cops or the feds looking for stuff?

So I've gotten two visits. That's it? That's it. Because I'm a journalist. I don't have to do anything. It doesn't stop them from trying. And shout out to my lawyer, Dan Adams. The day the Kia Boy video came out, he hit me up. He's like, if any law enforcement hits you up, you send them to me.

You have a right as a journalist to do this stuff and you have to say anything i was like okay that's good that's good to know so milwaukee pd came to my house after the key boy video and i said hey guys you you know actually i send them to the backyard because i live close enough to a bad area that if someone even seems to be talking to a police even if i say nothing it's like a it's a big risk oh yeah so i sent her my backyard on my porch my dog was still a puppy at the time my little puppy started trying to hump this detective's leg and then and then they like they like tossed this like manila folder onto my patio table and my guys i can't say anything i hope you understand but i'm a journalist and uh you know i wish you guys the best they said i just want to know one thing. Do you feel like these kids had any remorse for what they were doing? I was like,

it didn't really seem like it. And they're like, thank you. And then they left. I got a call later that they said I have to come in because someone had made a threat on me and they wanted to see if it was credible or not, if I wanted to take any action, which I saw the threat and just like wiped it off the table. Hey, we're good. Because at that time, even walking into the police station to see that, they don't know what I'm walking in there for. I was just nervous that someone was going to spot me driving and think that I was going to be a snitch. So, and then I did get visited by the FBI.

Oh, I did a redneck video in Tennessee. What was that? I didn't see this one. It was like most redneck place in America, East Tennessee, Appalachia. Shout out my guy,aka shaka hustleman um he's rapping out there and wait rednecks rapping oh he's good dude he's really good have you heard of yellow wolf he's kind of like a new age yellow wolf he's good new age redneck new age oh my lawyer's right there that's your lawyer that's my guy right that's a clean looking

lawyer he's a good guy i was picturing more of a saul goodman yeah see more of your style yeah but um like at some point in this video maybe 14 minutes in tennessee appalachia my name is shaka hustle my and in east tennessee we will protect these kids oh my god Oh my God. Oh my God, the drum poster. We have... Is that your first time? I want to piss the toilet. Yeah, and I smoked my first on a Spive. So...

What do you picture when you think of the most redneck place in America? Perhaps you picture rural Alabama or somewhere near the Florida Everglades. What I picture is eastern Tennessee. Oh, you put the accent on. That was one accent I could actually do without getting shit for because it's another white boy, so I lean into it. And it's not uncommon to still spot a Confederate flag flying. It's a place where gas stations sell an awful lot of sugar. Oh, I love the Israel flag still spot a Confederate flag flying. It's a place for gas stations

Oh, I love the Israel flag next to the Confederate flag. In this episode, I meet with local resident rapper, Shaka Hustlemine. Here's what this kid sounds like. We are the most culturally confused oh my god this episode okay he's sick get mud on our boots and meet the local so let me tell you what happened you see so at one point in the video i say um you know joe biden you come and try and take our guns. So the FBI came to my house. Two FBI guys, two Milwaukee PD. FBI or Secret Service?

Because is that a threat against them? Secret Service. I have the video on my phone of them coming out of the porch. Okay. I think Secret Service. They were like two really nerdy guys too. They just sit down like i offer them a area a seat in the family room and they're like so what did you mean when you said joe biden you know and i was like sir you know i was with a bunch of rednecks you're shooting guns i thought it was just funny to say i really don't have

anything against joe biden and they asked me like have you had suicidal thoughts do you have a gun in the house are you on prescription for this no no no no no so then i'm like all right guys like but part of me was like you know what it's good that they actually like they have their hands on things like they're at least they're doing their job so i didn't have an issue with it but it was like a little bit like i was looking at my wife in the family where i'm like what the hell is this dude no they take that shit like they have to take it seriously we just had evy pom porous in here which we had to fix up some of that file so i don't know when that's coming out yet but she was awesome she was a long time secret service and she used to do some of that like where she had to go out to a spot because someone said you know i'm gonna kill

i'm not gonna say it now on camera but they'd say things like that but this this is when i look at a video like this one it just reminds me the imagery by the way spot on shout out miguel like capturing everything in there with with just the ambience like setting the scene at the beginning your montages and your videos are really good because they make you have to watch the rest he's the man but i see this and i'm like this is the most culturally confused time in the history of the world. You got like a ghetto, very white, redneck singing about like lean drank, shooting guns out, loving Trump in the middle of the woods with Israeli flags in there. You know what? This is one thing I want.

I want rednecks and i want hood black people to know you guys are much more similar than the media will convince you a lot of the same values a little bit more conservative they like their second amendment rights they just want to drink beer and have no one the government not bother them they dude imagine what a dream team coalition that would be the government would really be scared if they just made some sort of gang that was between the two of them they would run shit all day it might not be the most fun place to live it'd be a little reckless but it would be fun i need you know the picture of like the bloods and the crips guy holding up holding up the

truce flag i need that with like rednecks they got got the Confederate flag Lincoln with like a few bandanas, you know? Oh my God. I say, you know, I don't know that I've ever heard someone make that point though. That's like scarily spot on. And then there's just a weird identity thing that, you know, gets like forced into these groups to be like, oh, we stay with us. We stay with us. Yeah.

There was a book by Thomas Sow sowell called i think it was called the black redneck and his point is that redneck culture and gay and hood culture actually comes from like english rednecks like the way they like from how they treat women education the way they talk uh i don't know if it's english like uh basically like country english folks and i don't know if they also lived in america at one time but like a lot of that culture seeped in from those folks and now like white rednecks took it and black hood folks kind of took that when you talk about cultural appropriation the line never ends because we all borrow stuff from that's right you know so that that whole subject is uh a funny one to me because it's like if okay did we culturally appropriate the guy that invented

electricity that's right are you if we're not of his heritage are we allowed to have it what about the microphone what about that's right actually i don't know if you know this but joe rogan invented red curtains we're culturally appropriating god damn it we had this for four years you have to play you have to pay joe rogan reparations right that's right he invented them yeah it's the the whole like something snapped i i don't it's hard to say exactly when but it's definitely the social media era that did it there's something that snapped where people needed a reason to have to point a finger at other people and they just decided to make everything identity identity very fast cancer dude yes it's a cancer

do you think it's going away though i think the pendulum's swinging back to the point where people are not afraid to call total bullshit bullshit especially with like the gender stuff like i had a girl from jujitsu a friend that i really like but she's super woke like a classic blue hair and um she wanted to babysit my boy and like she'd already gotten mad at me because i made a story post about like these gender inclusive bathrooms at the university that is local and i'm like of all the budget in the university like this is the renovation budgets went to doing this with the bathroom so i have to like shit next to stacy in the in science class so i have a crush on like how is that a good thing for like just make one stall bathrooms

anyone can go in but anyways you know she's like oh i want to babysit your baby i was like if you ever were he is a boy and that's it like there is no other options he's a boy and i mean you'd have to accept those terms and just like okay like there's certain things that i think uh even three years ago people were kind of scared to say their opinions on and now it's just like yeah we've seen how ridiculous it's gotten. And we don't have to play along with it anymore. You can do it in the safety of your own house or with your own friends. That's this America.

You get to do that. But you're not going to put it on us anymore. Yeah, you can't force people to do things that they don't want to do. And things that are stupid and ridiculous. Yeah, we're busy fighting over stuff that really doesn't matter. If you look at the priority list of the country, is your email pronouns at the top of the list? No. It's how can we make healthcare affordable even if you don't work for a corporation?

How do we make housing affordable? What do we do about inflation? What do we do about jobs that are actually going to pay the bills so you don't have to have two or three jobs there's a lot of things on this list that you know our budget the department of defense has failed their audit 10 years in a row we don't know where 3.2 trillion dollars is gone wait what's up with the 3.2 trillion we don't know where we don't know where it is we don't know where it went yes okay department of defense audit. I was just doing research on this. It is mind-blowing because as you, a business owner, me, a

business owner, we cannot afford to fail an audit 10 years in a row and survive. We'd either be in jail or bankrupt. The government, let's see, there's another one. I don't know if there's a $3.2 trillion. $3.8 trillion. I was giving him a benefit of the doubt.

Look at you. All right, let's hit that. That is a sum of money that is absurd. This was not a surprise. That's a direct quote. Pentagon again fails annual audit. And they keep raising the taxes that we have to pay them. How insane is that?

Look, this is where i'm also like i want us to have the best defense and the best ability if if we needed to do things of course but there has to be a line with when you keep on saying hey don't worry we got this to people that then have to pay out of their if you are not responsible with the taxpayer money you get fired or you get replaced let's hire someone that if they can't you can't balance the budget you're out it's that simple like there should be have you gone into many government jobs i don't care if it's on a city level or state or national level that it's like wow these people are efficient i work with the city of milwaukee for real estate dude it is ridiculous i've waited two months for an email like let's

say i'm trying to get a tenant on section eight and they need a house like now because once they sign with me they have a 30-day notice to their last landlord so they're on a ticking time bomb to to transition and then you'll get guys that, hey, sorry, I was two months behind on my emails. And it's like, Bob, what the fuck is going on in this office? We need to make it where there's incentives. Like in a sales job, you get your

little base salary, and then you get your commission. And people get motivated by commission. We need a commission structure with government jobs that they actually want to do things well and fast like you go there's so many places like there's a group called community advocates in milwaukee and some of them people i've worked with are really good like you is when a tenant runs into trouble a landlord can decide to help them and every time i do if i have the opportunity

hey i'll help you fill out this paperwork so you can get three months of rent so you can stay stabilized you get like the most added like they act like if you walk in their office like they You fill out this paperwork so you can get three months of rent so you can stay stabilized. You get like the most added – like they act like if you walk in their office, like who the fuck? They act like it's your job. You literally signed up for the application to do this and I come in. I'm trying to do something and they act like it's an imposition. And the problem with the incentivization though is then the taxpayers will complain. Like if someone hits like some crazy numbers or something. Or they'll find a way to fudge it where it's like,

oh, he hit his 10 numbers and he's getting paid $100,000 bi-weekly check. Speaking of incentivization, the mayor of Dalton. Your favorite mayor in America. Can we pull this video up? Hey, Tiffany Hanyard, I hope you're doing good in Cook County Jail.

I'll put some money on your commissary, maybe. And Officer Lacey, you still have not accepted my $2,000 challenge to meet in any MMA gym in Wisconsin or Illinois. This man has a $2,000 challenge. He's a big, tough guy. This is the guy in the video. He's a poussé, as they say in France. I think that's what they say in France.

They say it like that? I think they say it. All right, let's play this for a sec. The goons have come out. Tommy G, they call out. Tommy G. Milwaukee. Milwaukee representative. Hello, folks.

I'm Tommy G. Today, we're looking into the most corrupt mayor in America, allegedly. I can't believe she's real. I still can't believe it. She is a movie character. The mayor. Is she a hero or a villain? No.

Don't hit me potentially one of the most corrupt mayors in america we're still looking but this is just for videotaping look how many police they brought out here are you gonna get in your vehicle i'll get mine you get yours one day while scrolling through tick tock i was assaulted by a barrage of videos covering dalton illinois mayor tiffany Henier She refers to herself as the super mayor as well as the most powerful woman in Chicago Southside But does she use her power for good people on the internet and in her own community have been calling her the most Look at that. Here are some of the things she's been accused of stripping business licenses away from people that don't contribute to her charity pay for play kickbacks and bribes taking lavish first-class trips the taxpayer dime, making the city pay for her own personal ice skating rink, using the taxpayer money as a marketing budget for self promotion for things like a 122 billboard

with her face on it, and using tens of thousands of taxpayer money dollars per month to hire a PR for its design to clean up her image. And I'll give her this, her image is tough to clean up. Here's some more reasons why. She double dips as both the mayor of Dalton and the village of Thornton township supervisor. And she's made it so that if she's not reelected as supervisor, the incoming person would receive a 90% pay cut. She's racked up credit card debt like she's trying to set a record. And she tells the residents things like better have my money and compares herself to Martin

Luther King. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's alleged that she rolls around like a crime boss. Some people claim that she's even gone as far as having the cars of people that oppose her shot up to intimidate them. She rolls around in a convoy of extensive private security, of course on the taxpayer dollar, and it's said that she has the police force in her pocket partly due to the outrageous amounts of overtime she allows her officers to be paid. Again, on the taxpayer dollar. I hope you're noticing the theme here.

Unfortunately for Tiffany and her police chief lapdog, Officer Louis Lacey, I have in my possession receipts, disciplinary forms, documents, and insider information that we will be diving into in great detail today. Folks, this channel does not stand for bullies, and by the end of my expose, I'm sure you'll draw the conclusion that Tiffany, Officer Lacey, and their cronies are not only bullies of the worst kind, but an absolute disgrace to the title of public servant. The FBI is currently investigating her, so I hope she gets to see this video, but I'm not sure what the Wi-Fi situation is in Cook County Jail. Let's begin the episode. Alright, let's pause it.

So, people definitely go watch this. First of all, shout out to Miguel. How good was that intro on the editing set? It's so good. Your edits are beautiful the fact that he's doing all that he's the absolute man how long have you had him?

a year and a half he hit me up and I'm like oh do you want to cover a gay pride parade he's like sure we drove to Chicago and we did that and we've been working with each other ever since now did you edit everything yourself before that? I used to and you can tell

I mean it's not... If you look at the Las Vegas tunnel video, I edited that largely myself. I think almost entirely myself. And it gets the point across. I still have the important conversations. I still get to hear the details of what's going on, but it's not captivating.

It's bare bones editing. Right. That's a real artist rendition there.ition there but he oh this is the one you edited just listen to the intro song people would you say it's dangerous i noticed there's a lot of makeshift weapons around here it's actually like I wouldn't believe this. Tunnels are different. This is pretty good. I mean, but it's not like it's like, yeah, I mean, it gets the job done. If Miguel and Keegan got, you know, hit by a tornado, I could still put a video out, but it's not going to look nearly as good. I live there. Some people are on the run. Some people just like to live there and be out

of society. Let me just say I am nervous. i'm a little bit nervous these are people that anything can go down there's probably going to be machetes knives we're going down to explore i have some special guests with me today they're tagged in the description we're here with ethan we're here with colin we're here with lucy we're here with tyler but even that was about a year and a half ago like i feel like we're finally like we could consider ourselves purple belts in the documentary space. Yeah, I agree. I think our access to context is like a brown or black belt level. But one thing we're really leveling up on is our voiceovers, our context, our education.

One thing we determined just a few weeks ago is even if I'm covering the craziest Cambodian bloods of Stockton, I don't want to just get that. I want to, want one make it more well-rounded by having more characters in the story that aren't gangster but two i want everyone to walk away with something they've actually learned that they had no idea before they watched the video a goal is now to have i want high school teachers around america to show my videos to their kids when they're lost they're out of options like how am i going to teach these kids they don't want to learn from me i can't speak their style. Okay, we're going to put on a Tommy G video that teaches them about this. That's awesome.

That's one of my goals. And anytime high school or college professors or teachers ask me to come speak to their kids, I always do it. So that's a big thing is reaching the youth. Yeah, I love that. And I think you have to make learning fun. Yes. Right? It should be fun.

There's so many cool things to learn. Yes. And that's like a huge issue that happened at schools now in this era because they can't make the nine to three day entertaining for the kids. Well, this is how to do it. But that mayor, back to her. Yeah, let's talk about her. So first of all, how did you – some of this information was like through like foyer requests so the trustees that i interview in the video they're basically like the government people are supposed to be her

checks and balances she's fired and pissed off so many of these people that they were more than happy to give us here's the credit card statements here's the foyer request so they gave us a lot of the firepower we needed to put together a compelling story that wasn't just allegedly stuff happening but here it is on paper And she walks around with her private police security all the time. She had a guy work 314 hours of overtime in two weeks. Yes. He apparently slept two hours a day and he got a $13,000 paycheck. Here's the thing about her. I mean, you've met some high level people and if they have any security, it's like one guy. She's rolling around in a convoy.

She has a ton of $190,000. She rolls in a convoy of five Tahos that she overpaid by $60,000 for. Yeah, what's the deal there? I don't know. Maybe there's kickbacks going on. So the Tahoe itself, brand new, $93,000, which is a city where a third of the residents are in poverty. I don't know if that's the best investment, but she spent six of them. But not only that, she leased them at a rate 60,000 over that initial buying price. Wait, explain that. She leased them? She didn't buy them. So on paper, she's going to pay $153,000 for the vehicle once everything's paid out for a $93,000

vehicle. And not even own it. No. So here's more dirt on her. And this is stuff that I just have to say allegedly because I don't have the documents, but I have the stories, the anecdotes. We use the word allegedly a lot in here. It helps for legal reasons. She does pay for play. So during COVID, there was like $60,000 awarded to business owners.

Maybe 12 different business owners would get $5,000. But to get it from her, hey, Julian, I'll give you the five grand, but you gotta sell me 2,500 back. Or hey, there's been a, was it a TIF, a TIF, a tax, it's some sort of tax credit for development. Hey, developer, we can get you $2 million from TIF money, but you have to wire me back a million of it.

And if you don't, if you don't donate to my charity, we're gonna take your business license away. So there was multiple bars, restaurants that were out of business because they wouldn't play with her, and she took their business license away. Dr. Scott in that video, she has that strip mall that has the free grocery store. So what she does is a food market, not a food kitchen, like a place to get free food with dignity. So it's like a grocery store. You walk in, I can get the peanut butter, I can get a cereal. All funded through her organization,

but she has a lot of empty units in there that were going to help, like the overhead was going to help fund the charity. So if she could rent it out to other people, other organizations, she can invest that into free food for the people. She's been blocked from opening it up, all these like bureaucratic reasons

that she can't do it. And she's bleeding right now. And up, all these like bureaucratic reasons that she can't do it. And she's bleeding right now. And I was just on the phone with her because we had an error with the GoFundMe. So there's a GoFundMe. We raised $30,000 for her. And there's 1,200 people so far that have watched that video have donated to it. Some of them are $5. Some of them are $1,000.

It's amazing. She had the phone with me. She's like, the money's not hitting my account. I'm like, it's not hitting my account i'm like it's not hitting mine and then like she doesn't like she trusts me but she's also like you know the most viable option probably in her mind is that it's going to me so sure like how do i where is it turns out i had a like an old huntington bank account that i haven't used in like two years that somehow gofundme was still attached to that it was depositing there so i had to run to go to huntington take that money out run to my chase and then wire it to her and luckily she has the

first chunk of it and the the another chunk of it's on the way to go back to huntington back to chase that's scary her overhead is like 10k a month at minimum so we we gave her another three months of operating room but um she's bleeding because of this mayor so she's not the lady who had her car allegedly shot up no that i believe that was kiana well i'm forgetting all these trusty names but um no that that's in a new york post article that lady that got her car shut up shot up and she's certain it was mayor tiffany's goons i i'm not it wouldn't surprise me one bit i what what shocked me is i'm watching this video i watched it the day it came out and i'm not it wouldn't surprise me one bit i what what shocked me is i'm watching this video i watched it the day it came out and i'm like i think it'd been out for like six hours or something

and i'm thinking to myself how how the fbi is already in town just on the basis of this video hopefully how are they not knocking on the door already and saying ma'am you're under arrest yeah like it it's so bad it's so but it it's so blatant and i've seen some blatant ass politicians we've had jim diorio in here a bunch he worked in the public corruption unit of fbi at one point in his career you know he had some blatant ones this is the worst i've ever seen i think to properly cover her that video is 30 minutes i think we've had to had maybe a five hour video to properly cover her that video is 30 minutes i think we've had to have maybe a five-hour video to properly cover her i mean she is outrageous and that's the thing there's a common trend in this country she doesn't on a local level but it's happening nationally there are people calling themselves public servants and a lot of them are u.s representatives

that are somehow the best stock traders that have ever walked the planet yet they have a full-time job as a senator so we got nancy pelosi we got tommy tuberville those are some of the best stock traders that have ever walked the planet yet they have a full-time job as a senator so we got nancy pelosi we got tommy tuberville those are some of the best performing guys right now it just it's so in our face that they're timing the market oh you you just invested 60k in an energy stock let me see the commission you sit on oh the energy commission like how are they getting away with it what What's the old George Carlin quote? It's a giant club and you ain't in it. That's it, man.

Mr. Carlin, good guy. His book is fantastic, by the way. Rest in peace to him. I never read his book. That's one of the secrets, I think, to the channel, too. We have a lot, like, most of the team are readers. So we are constantly. What do you like?

I was a little kid. I read everything. So everything from biographies, like, I would really recommend Teddy Roosevelt, Malcolm X, Benjamin Franklin. Those are probably my everything from biographies like i would really recommend teddy roosevelt malcolm x benjamin franklin those are probably my three favorite biographies um i mean i just recently wrote it read a fantasy novel that my sister recommended and i was like oh this is pretty damn good i think it's the call like a sexual fantasy model oh like uh like he was at half mast when he walked the game plague. More like Harry Potter fantasy. Gotcha.

Sometimes those get a little... I used to read a lot of self-help books, but then there's a certain point where it's like, I'm doing it. You got to do it. The War of Art. That's a perfect one, but his sequel, Turning Pro by Steven Pressfield,

that is a Bible to me. Another thing that, as long as we're talking about this kind of subject, a reoccurring podcast that I listen to at least once a year is the Naval Ravikant episode on Joe Rogan. So good. It is. There's been times when podcasts like that, especially

when I wasn't on my path so much, I felt like I was in an ocean drowning and that would be like a buoy that I was just holding on to and it kept me afloat and kept me excited. So shout out Naval Ravikant and Joe Rogan and Naval would be a guy that I would, both of them would be people I'd love to meet. Yeah, Naval is so smart, man. And his philosophy of life is perfect. I mean, it's just like, yeah, he gets it. That whole thing that he talked about when he was growing up, where he's like, he would just

start reading things and the minute he got the utility from it he didn't make himself have to finish it that concept was so hard for me because i'm ocd i'm like i have to finish everything but now i do it a little bit sometimes where i'm like wait a minute i'm losing interest in this topic i've gotten something from it i'll move to this other yeah i have like i have 15 to 20 books open at one time. I think they're... I get it. I get it.

You're coming from that mentality. But if the book's shit, I'll discard it. But if I'm enjoying it, what's the point of interrupting the flow? You wouldn't have 15 podcasts open at once, right? That's true. It's very true. But to each his own. Yeah, there's something about like when

you have a ton of interest though like sometimes but sometimes you're right i'll get in such a flow with one of them i end up reading that like maybe i'm gonna sit down and this rarely happens and i love reading but like we're always working like and i have three hours to read i'll be like all right i'm gonna hit these three books and then i end up with one of them because you do get into it so that's a good point but like i have a bunch open at once i think fiction is very powerful because you know there's i mean if it registers enough it there's a lot of like human psyche and like also mythology like that's one thing we're kind of losing our religion in this day and age and we're like we have nothing to guide us like all the ancient stories like i'll reference the book power of myth by joseph campbell

all these ancient stories that were ingrained in us and taught us the archetypes of life and how to proceed in the hero's journey. They're treasures. And right now we're going into this post-religious, post-modern era where we have nothing to guide us. And it's kind of like we're falling to the wayside, I feel like. Yeah, that's one of those things.

I've had my issues with organized religion with the 10% that uses it for wrong, the you know 10 that uses it for wrong not the 90 uses it for great maybe 15 20 right yeah maybe 15 20 but you know they tend to take they tend to take a lot of power over time throughout history and you can't deny it like you look at wars you look at cycles it really always comes back to some form of religious belief belief. That said, it's very interesting to me that we have lost so much common sense in a time where, yes, maybe we don't have an enemy to unify against, like I mentioned earlier, but also in a time where people have turned very secular. There's something about that that makes me seem like, is this a simulation because humans always

need something? Well, politics has become the new religion yes exactly and social issues have become the new religion and I don't know there's no human created system that's gonna be good answer I mean if you look at if the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages that wasn't a fun religion to like happy in power I grew up in a megachurch community oh shit pull up a picture of this church willow creek community church in barrington illinois so you were going to the mega church all the time they had escalators in there like dude being a kid in these churches were so it was so fun because you pastor driving a lambo these guys were dutch they were a little bit more frugal

and they hid their money yeah i you know i don't know if Bill Hybel's – what he did with his money. I think he was rich, but he didn't flaunt it. I can't believe people still pay tithes to the guys who are like, God's going to give me a Mercedes-Benz. And they still put money in the plate? That's the main auditorium right there. Wait, this is where you would go? I would go there, but they also had eight satellite campuses that were more local.

So a lot of times you'd go to one of the satellite campuses and you'd watch the main service that was happening there on a huge big screen. And even the satellite campuses had thousands of people there. It was a huge, huge church. I mean, it was a great place, but it kind of had a scandal there involving fellatio and whatnot, which is... Oh, wait, wait, wait. It's blowjobs. Yeah, yeah, like Catholic church style? Oh, not with boys or men.

Female blowjobs, which in the eyes of the Lord, I don't know what difference that makes. The lead pastor who built this thing from the ground up, and you can't take away his whole legacy for one blowjob because... Let's just say to this,

if you were in his position, a guy that had tens of thousands of people reporting to the church. You're sucking the dick of God. Sucking the dick of the Lord. I remember just the budget in the satellite church, like the weekly tithe, it was, I think, between like, it was an average of like 50 to 70K a week,

just in one of the small churches. So this guy, and they did an awful lot that was good. But I think this, if you were this like super like known pastor, basically like a minor celebrity in your circles, and some hot Christian lady's like, oh, I want to read Matthew 2-4 with you in your hotel room. You're like, oh, Matthew 2-4, I like that. And then she starts unzipping your trousers. Every man is tempted.

Every man can be tempted. Unless he's over here like yeah that's right but there is that parking lot you can't see the whole thing but there will literally be a shuttle bus some of the parking spots that would take you to the main entrance this is like this is like the south philly sports complex like where we have all the teams playing on one lot it's pretty sick oh i was gonna say this as a kid it was so fun to go to church because you'd walk in there, you'd put a fingerprint scanner, and they'd know that that's how you got in. There'd be basketball courts, video games. Yeah.

Oh, they got your data. And then they'd be like, Thomas, meet me in the back alley. No, they weren't Catholic. None of that stuff happened. They didn't have any of the boy stuff going on. So it was like non-denominational Christian type deal? Mm-hmm. They made church cool is what they did.

Yeah. They made it like rock band type stuff. They had like, not skits, like drama and plays. Yeah. They made it as cool as church could be. Do you, and you're not religious today though? Mm-mm. When did that turn off for you?

Here, I got a couple answers for you. One, the more i read the bible the less i like it especially the old testament the only thing that keeps me open to christianity is the new testament but the thing that's so frustrating to me is you read the same four books that have a little bit of variation in the story the gospels matthew mark luke and john we're talking about jesus who is the most if this every story is if the story is true he's the most important person who have ever lived yet here's's his life. We have his birth. We have like one story where he goes missing and he's preaching. Then all of a sudden, 12 to 31 or

so, off the map. We have no idea how he dealt with puberty, temptation, masturbation, all that. And then he just randomly appears, you know, for his last two years of life where he does his ministry. And it's kind of bullshit to me. How did Jesus deal with some of these struggles that I'm going through as a young man too? Then you read the Old Testament and some of the stories, there's hand-picked stories that we'll continually visit in church. But there's a lot of stuff in that book that we never, if you read it out loud in front of people, it would be concerning. Like what? Let's see.

Well, the one, let's just talk about circumcision. Okay. God is saying, for you to show that you're my dude, that you ride with my squad, blood crips, cut off the skin of your penis that, by the way, has the most pleasure sensors of any part of your penis. I mean, when Muslim countries do that to girls and they cut off the clit we find that to be monstrous yeah right what do we call it the mutilation mutilation yeah we call it mutilation but tell me this he created you with that penis to have sex

that it feels it obviously feels good and he says to show belonging that's what you have to do if that was like a next door neighbor you never let your kids go by that guy's house. But somehow when God's, oh, he just wants a foreskin. Like that's so weird. Yeah, no, it's fucked. I don't think any God would have done that. I think that's something like that is made up by some asshole. I mean, if he does want that, is he really worth?

That's right. Exactly. And I don't want to think that. There's plenty of stories of like a dad almost sleeping with his son's wife or maybe his daughter, but then he realized like he spilled his seed on them. There's just like stories that I'm not even saying they're bad or good, but we avoid them because they're weird. Right. We handpick our stories in the Bible. And there's some really great stories in the Bible that you can learn a lot and that are, you know, things that you can guide your life around.

Sure. And that's what people should use the good of things, right? Like, I think you look at a guy like Jesus, poor carpenter, hung around poor people, didn't wear really nice clothes, didn't ride in on, you know, a shining horse. He was a man of everybody, allegedly, you know, gave up his life for everyone. These are great things. But I feel like he was done a disservice as a historical figure by the Catholic Church, which if – like if people out there – and I know when we get into religion, people get real tight,. I'm talking like the actual history of where this started, the Council of Nicaea, the testimony that they deleted from the New Testament, right? There are other gospels. There are other gospels that they just said, no, no, not that one, including allegedly Mary Magdalene's that may have written a little something about, well,

Marito right there. Yeah. But you look at stuff like that and you're like, what is there even to believe? Because this is just one example, but all written history has some form of human sin put on it, right? Meaning humans who decided, no, no, we know best. Keep this. Get rid of that. Lie about this. Tell the truth about that.

And then over time, people are like, well, I guess that's what we got. Yeah. I think that's a – if I were to go back to college, I would want to learn more about, like, the trend. If you, because I was just seeing this the other day, like, translation from Old English to New English to the St. New James. No, no. Sounds right.

King James Version to the modern, more non-denominational version. Like, it is a very different translation each time. And that's not even going all the way back to the Hebrew, the Greeks. And I don't know, dude. It just, there's something missing. I want to know what the hell the most important man ever to live on earth was doing from 12 to 31. Yes. Is that reasonable?

Very reasonable. Very reasonable. But, like, we got into this tangent talking about the loss of religion. from 12 to 31 yes is that reasonable very reasonable very reasonable but it like we got into this tangent talking about the loss of religion the you know you and i may have grown up in something like i grew up catholic you grew up in a mega church are you okay are you still going to therapy i was never an altar boy oh god good my dad was. Sometimes I want to ask that question. I don't know. I don't know. Father Tom over there.

You never know. But either way, like us losing that organization in a way in society now, you know, it does make you wonder, okay, do human beings, like we talked about tribes earlier, do human beings always have to put it somewhere? You said they put it in politics. I agree 100%. You look at people talk about things on social media look at comment sections when people hear something they disagree with i could never stand for this i was watching this podcast and enjoyed it not anymore not you know do better it's right but sometimes they won't even give you that yeah just like i'm out right because i heard one thing i disagree with.

And it's like we live in a world where people come from all different environments, all different countries, all different places, all different problems, all different good things, all different bad things, whatever it is. And there's going to be differences in places. But to another point you made, there is so much more that makes us similar. Like pull someone who is left of the left and someone of right of the right off the street and ask them what their biggest problems are. And I guarantee you three of their top five are going to be very, very similar. Yes. That's who we should pick as the next president. Who is the guy? I don't know if it's RFK. I don't know if he just isn't around yet. But who is the guy that 70% of America can agree on his platform. He's not divisive.

It's common sense. Good for the people. That's the kind of guy we need. I just wish his voice really worked well. That was a good one. It doesn't really in the morning. It's not that good, but it gets better as the day goes on. Do you think if he had his voice fully intact that he would be the frontrunner? Maybe.

That's a tough thing to overcome to become president. That's why when he first said he was going to become candidate, I said he's got no shot. Because I look at things like I do like analyzing some of the politics. I can't stand politics these days, but I like analyzing the behaviors of humans and why we do the things we do so You're not gonna elect a really fat guy. You're not you're we're still not in a position We're like maybe if a woman was smoking hot they'd elect her and this sounds horrible to say out loud But it's like you think she has to be hot the small not more hot but like seven out of ten Yeah, right. Right, right. Not like you can't speak when she's around because that's how hot she is but like oh yeah she's pretty bad

i can talk to her good good clarification but like i'm not saying i agree with these things i'm saying the smallest little swing of that middle five percent is what moves an election from a landslide to like tight to into landslide in the other direction and there's just enough of a margin there in america that the most basic things like someone's command are they decent looking are they not people enough humans respond to that that that's what they'll they'll look at so you look at rfk obviously he's kennedy that helps i think he's in shape not with the cia dude he is jacked he's jacked right he's kind of like he has even though he's a kennedy he has some of those everyman qualities

but i heard that voice and i'm like there's no shot and then he grows on you he he's an acquired taste because to listen to him is a little bit more of an undertaking you have to invest into it you have to i don't want to say suffer through it but like but once you get used to his voice you're like this guy is compelling he is he i will tell you the third hour of that joe rogan podcast was one of the best campaign hours i've ever seen in my life he told stories with visuals he spoke to everyone you could almost not tell political leanings it was common it's beautiful and i love too how well ready he is and how much he understands history. You could ask him, what was happening in Cuba in the 1960s

and why this led to this? And he has a perfect analysis. Why do you think the Russians felt this way in the 1980s? Well, if you look at the... He knows his history extremely well. And that's another thing that should be a prerequisite to being a president is, if you haven't learned from history, you're going to repeat it. So he seems like a guy that knows how to play the field. He's tough. He's strong. And also, I think that the two other choices are so divisive right now that he seems like a pretty clear alternative, a way to start fresh again. You got Trump versus a dead guy. It's like, you know, it's like, is this the best we can do people like these are

the these are the but these are the last guys picked on the dodgeball team you know and that's what we're putting out there and then it's like well the third guy can't talk they both would die in the next four years uh well let's again to our friends at the Secret Service we wish them a long peaceful happy life um one guy eats fast food and he's in his 70s or 80s the other guy he he's impressive too he's such donald trump will go down as one of the more most interesting people of this era and he's an amazing marketer yeah he's the second best marketer even if you're the biggest blue hair in the world you should be able able to look at Donald Trump and say, like, this guy is funny. He's a great marketer. It's going to be the debates between them are going to be, I'm going to say hilarious on the front end, but probably sad on the back end.

Yes. Because you realize, oh, yeah, this isn't just like a two-hour event. This is the future of our country. You think they're going to let RFK on a debate stage? Right now, I know that there's a lot of, like, he has to get on the ballot of California. He has to get on the ballot of, I think it's Oregon.

There's like little, why are you looking at me like that? Could you just see Trump with him on a debate stage? Well, but my father, shut the fuck up. Oh,

but here's what will happen. RFK? CIA killed my father back in 68. Oh, no. RFK will double-leg the shit out of that guy. I guarantee,

RFK would- He knows a lot more. Yeah. So- Oh, no. RFK will double leg the shit out of that guy. I guarantee... RFK would... He knows a lot more. Yeah. So... Oh, you're saying physically he'd double leg the shit out of him. RFK would put either of them on their back and finish the fight with punches. I agree with that.

I mean, the dude is... He definitely lives... He's on some good shit. Yeah, yeah. That's not... His biceps are gigantic. gigantic yeah what was the one video he was he was like this jack and he did like nine push-ups and got tired i was like okay all right yeah yeah yeah it's not all real yeah it's still like it's great because like we're so obese now

as a country too it's like okay one of them's in shape one of them doesn't exercise because he believes that there's a finite amount of heartbeats that exist in your body, Trump. The other eye can't exercise because probably he would need his diaper changed. So it's just like having a president who is mentally and physically fit seems like a good start. Yeah, it seems like a great start. It's crazy. I've told this story before on the podcast. I used to caddy at Wilmington Country Club where the Bidens are and everything.

Oh, really? Yeah, when he was vice president, we'd know he showed up because all the fucking golf carts with the Secret Service guys would be there. And the last time I was around him, I never caddy for him directly, but I used to caddy for someone very close to him all the time. And the last time I was around him was towards the end of the summer, 2014. Okay. I'm down on the practice tee with the guy I'm going to caddy for. I had seen the cart so i knew he had to be there and suddenly i hear someone coming down like there's a ton of

guys on a saturday morning on the tee busting balls like hey jim how are you bill what's going on how's it hanging the old boys club oh my god like shit like that and i'm like oh that's fuck that's the vice president gets up starts striping it 250 250 he's gotta get a swing at the time he did right like he was him dude but i'm looking at him i'm like this isn't this a motherfucker old like he was like 70 71 but he's like like a little jacked whatever i'm like i'm like damn he might he might be able to like run for president and then the next time i like saw him i guess because he didn't run obviously in 2016 was when he came out on the stump speech to open up march 2019 which is less than five years later okay and i'm

like this motherfucker must have like four brain aneurysms i mean he couldn't even at the beginning he couldn't finish a sentence and he was like this frail old man but they forced him on us how are they keeping him going drugs do you think it definitely revealed even at the most basic level even if this is your first puff of weed you're like the Illuminati run shit this is the puppet government it's now confirmed

the fact that things are still happening and he's the figurehead it's for sure there's someone pulling the strings I don't think he has any power I think the president happening and he's the figurehead like it's for sure there's someone pulling the strings i don't think he has any power i think the president and we're having this conversation about president because it is important and it is the symbol of our country and stuff and i'm not going to take that away but like they're not the the bureaucracy of the government is what runs things and and a guy by the way that they appoint as president the chairman of the government is what runs things and and a guy by the way that they appoint as president the chairman of the fed is the most powerful person in the country

that's jerome powell yeah at the time at this time it is yeah you know so it you start to think about it and you're like well how much control do we even have on stuff what is it that's so going back to one of the first things we talked about you can't boil the whole ocean but you can boil your pot that's right so we can kick and scream and be frustrated we should be frustrated we want america to be a great place and we have people that are interested in themselves in their stock portfolio but what can we really do we can we're like horse blinders i had a wrestling coach when my favorite wrestling coach is ever gus silva like you're like a horse running its race you have to keep your head down in your lane if you're if you're swimming you look to the other lane you lose because you're gonna the time it takes to

adjust back into course you're gonna lose so i don't know you have to like figure out whether you keep your head in the sand and you're uninformed which is a sin in some ways or you keep on your path and so i don't know i don't know what the answer is but um if you find your mission i would just say stay on your mission. And I'm on my mission right now. I'm ready to rumble, dude. Are you looking at doing any – I mean, we're in an election year now. There's all kinds of social backlash that comes from stuff like that.

Are you looking at doing some content somehow themed around that? I'm currently trying to get into RFK's team – or not into his team, but like pitching, filming with him. I have a lady on the inside that's helping with that it's mmm we're having minimal coverage right now the RNC is gonna be in Milwaukee and I'm the biggest content creator in Milwaukee that's cool mr. Trump interested talk to you and how I'm not I voted independent every single time I've ever voted so Biden if you have the cojones of your team has the cojones to let me in for 24 hours to talk to you, happy to. Oh, he wants 24 hours. Let's just say three hours, two hours.

But they only put him in highly manufactured, controlled situations. If they want to prove that myth wrong, invite me in. But otherwise, you know. So Biden would for sure be a no. Trump, I i think is a decent possibility and rfk i know the team is interested but right now when you have you know they had a in inbound lead of like 2500 leads of people that are podcast shows that's right there's some high power podcasts that he can go on and long form is probably the best form so and also

my brand's a little riskier than a podcast just because you see some of my stuff talking to pimps and prostitutes like i can see why i might not crack the top 20 on their list but i would implore him and his team let's have a good time i think you should do it i would love to i think you would be great for him i'm waiting for the call he's so that's the thing that i've noticed about his ability in media and in communication, more importantly, during his campaign. He's so willing to kind of color outside the lines. Like there's no real – I think that's something Trump actually kind of did. Yeah. Enabled a guy like this to be like, well, you can't get weirder than that.

Yeah. The blueprint's been thrown off the desk and now we're rewriting it. Yeah. So I would love to see him do that. But like what would you do with him? Oh, I want. So I would love to see him do that. But like, what would you do with him? Oh, I want to, I want to, I would love to do a day in the life, but what would be an optimal video I think to do with RFK, wake up, do a workout with him. I want to get a pump with him, ask him questions while we're getting a pump.

I want to see, I mean, how does he interact with his family? How does he interact with people on his team? Just follow him around, whatever I'm allowed to be in on, be with. It would be fun to visit an area that we can talk about. So whether we're walking through an area and we're talking about the housing crisis or whether we're walking through Skid Row and talking about the homeless issue,

I think with his security team, it would be hard to go to Oakland or Skid Row or a high-risk situation. But he's actually announcing his VP in Oakland, California. Yes, I saw that. So there's a couple guys in uh oakland that his team is like hey you threw me get some tickets to these guys i'm like there's this guy mr doodat that um mr doodat doodat like he do that you know oh he do

i got he do that so um he took us around the tenderloin in san francisco the one the tenderloin is like the human poo capital of America. Oh, tell me about this. If you enjoy stepping in feces or smoking fentanyl, boy, do I have a brochure for you. Didn't they clean this up for President Xi?

Yes, they did. That was the week I was there, too. Oh, you lost your content. Yes, but it was still nuts. Even with the cleanup act, it was still like... Do you have a video on this? It's coming out.

Well, we have a fentanyl video dropping on Tuesday that we'll have a piece of our tenderloin video in and then two or three months later we'll drop our tenderloin video too okay so what what did you do there other than like stepping shit i followed around some fentanyl dealers i went to see like the homeless camp areas i talked to business owners that had, you know, homeless people breaking in, shitting outside their door. I avoided poop. I saw people smoking fentanyl in broad daylight. I saw nonprofits handing out fentanyl pipes, everything but the fentanyl they give to you. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Nonprofits were handing out fentanyl. What kind of nonprofits? All sorts of taxpayer funded San Francisco nonprofits are handing out tinfoil, pipes,

clean needles, all that. But here's the argument. They have free condoms at college, right? The argument is people are going to have sex anyways. People are going to take drugs anyways. We might as well reduce the disease. I think there's a study out of Montreal maybe where it's like when they hand out the needles, that HIV and things like that go down 35%. They're going to do it anyways. Might as well do it safely. So part of me sees it. The

other part of me is like taxing are too goddamn high for me to be funding your fentanyl pipe, buddy. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a strange thing to think about too, because fentanyl is literally, it's, you can do whatever the smallest dose of it is and die yeah once you're once you're uninitiated to it but once you get you know into it then your tolerance goes up we the video putting out on tuesday uh we were in a fentanyl dealer's apartment where he sells it all over the country you want it in new york he'll sell you 5 000 pills in the mail 5 000 pills in the mail 10 000 in chicago 5 000 in new york whoever wants it, he uses the U.S. Postal Service to get it to you. And then we went to a sketchy motel where fentanyl dealers were.

One of the guys in that video is now going to do 15 years because he went on a high-speed police chase. I think he took the cop's taser, tasered him, stole the police car, got away. That was a little scary interview to do. We were in just like the sketchiest motel you can think of wait was he on the run for that not yet he he'd done that after we interviewed him we have a lot of interviews we're like after words we arrested like a video in chicago we did uh oh this guy did three homicides oh my god but he's still rapping he's still out in the street i think the bail laws are really great if you like to do that.

The white boy after the St. Louis. We have tons of these guys that you find out two months later, like, holy shit. I don't like to research people a lot because I like to go in there fresh. Like, hey, the main contact in the Phoenix Hood video, when he was 15, he robbed nine or ten people at gunpoint. Mostly drug dealers. St like that was like an like he sent me a soundcloud link like an intro track it was like the news being like 15 year old man in phoenix arizona like armed robbery nine people and then he's like yeah that was me yeah that was me and then he goes into the song so he's another one who reached out to you direct uh we worked with him and uh when we went to arizona yeah he reached i have guys like that here's here's my issue i can

talk to any crime sort of thing that you can find like hey i need a trap house to go into in chicago i'll probably get 15 dms 20 dms if i say hey i want to talk to a doctor about schizophrenia like they'll be like oh can't do it can't talk like anyone that's anyone that's buttoned up i have a very hard time speaking to because they're afraid of the brand but anyone that's like in the trenches oh they're afraid of what you put out i had a doctor milwaukee reach out after i said looking for um like people connected to schizophrenia he ran programming in milwaukee about schizophrenia i love to do it i I love your work. I'm just going to ask my supervisor if that's okay. But I'm the head of it.

It should be good. Get a call. We talked for 40 minutes on the phone. He sends a brief text the next day. Sorry, I can't help you. Wish you the best. Like, very, like, cold. And it's like, what the hell?

Like, I don't know. I don't know. I wonder if that'll change, though, because you're still, like, kind of morphing. Like, you're, like, two years into doing doing the journalism route it literally started with pranks it gets to some of the most salacious stuff we've talked about some of it today obviously but now like i feel like the these these two recent videos in particularly where you go to the mayor which is which is a follow the money political we're starting to level up. Right. We're starting to get more sophisticated, more well-rounded.

By the way, is there a water bottle in here? I'm getting parched. Oh, you need water? Yes. We'll pause for one sec. We'll be right back. All right, we're back. We were actually just looking at a video of Miguel's editing right now.

Yeah, Miguel's the man. That's fucking sick. We're working on the fentanyl documentary. Was that when fentanyl or was that the cartels well we talked to a dealer on the border we talked to a dealer at a motel we talked to a dealer in his apartment and we see people in

Baltimore, San Francisco, Phoenix, Arizona and many different places around the country that are impacted by it this was a multi-visit documentary whoa have you done something like that before we're starting to do more of them like when we did the mexican ot piece we met with him in three or four different locations and pieces together but it has to be a special piece to do that and also it has to be a piece that um like new york we're going to be here for five days and knock out five

pieces i would be willing to put one of them as like a multi-visit one that we do in another place but i can't for it to be efficient, I can't do that with every piece. Understood. Understood. What did you do with Mexican Island, Texas? I love that guy. He's fucking awesome. That guy is the man.

We did a lot with him. We went to his concerts. We went to Johnny Dane's with him. We hung out. We hung out in his bulletproof Cadillac. He's got a bulletproof Cadillac. Smoked a little weed. There you go.

And watched a lot of his unreleased stuff and his music videos, talked about life. He's just such a pleasant, fun guy. When you meet rappers, especially big rappers, a lot of them have such an ego that is absolutely ridiculous. They walk in and they think they're like the red carpet should be rolled out. He's the type of guy that he walks in, he talks to you, he talks to the camera guy, he talks to the janitor, he talks to the CEO. Everyone the same. He's very pleasant. He talks to the camera guy. He talks to the janitor. He talks to the CEO. Everyone the same. He's very pleasant. He's got so much charm.

He was raised in a junkyard dog type of environment. He was nine years old running the streets, but he also has that southern charm to him where he makes you feel warm and welcome. He's happy and he's funny. He's a guy that I just am betting on big because people want to be around him. There's a lot of rappers that are so low energy and boring. In their song, it's like, I murdered this guy, and they're so at it. But when you talk to them in person, they're like, yee and shit.

And that's the only thing they know how to say. Right. And so Mexican O.T. is the man. How'd you get connected with him again? My friend Brandon Buckingham, I worked with him. My friend Mike at the closet, he has a fashion brand that is upstairs from Johnny Dane, knows him and helped connect the dots. So contacts are literally the most important part of what we do. Without good

contacts, we don't have videos. And you built a big Rolodex pretty quickly too. My cell phone is a pretty fun place to look through. are some i mean you mentioned brandon buckingham have you done some collab work with him what'd you guys do and actually he's uh he's gonna be at my airbnb for the next few days he's also in new york working on separate ideas maybe something will overlap and we'll do it but he's just a good friend i've had him at my house i've been at his house before um but what did we collab on we cl collabed on a DC homeless video. We went to the craziest hood you've never heard of. That's what we called the video. It was Suitland.

I think out in Maryland, this rapper, Big Flock, took us around his area. We've done, back in the prank days, we did hella sus songs in Oblock. So we visited Oblock and did homo rapping. That was really fun. That was a really fun era sauce rapping i miss it was so fun to like go as this character like i go into places like i'm a hardcore gangster rapper and i used to rap so i could put like a few bars together that sound pretty tight but then like at the end i'll slip in some like erection

you know like i'll slip in something weird that they're like they'll like be nodding their head they'll be like oh wait what did you just say i i used to never be able to like i used to have sauce bars floating through my head at all times of the day and at night and i'd be like about to go to sleep a sauce bar floating in my head and i have to wake up and write it down because i knew i might forget it if i went to sleep that was a fun time of the prank era yeah you you got off on something else earlier when you were talking about ideas, but I love that topic. You just brought it up again, so let's go there. Like, when you write things down, you get to keep it.

I always think of that scene in Mad Men. I think it was like season three where the one guy – do you ever see that show? No, but I'm familiar. Okay, so there was this one guy who worked at the agency where they're sitting up in the office, which, by the way, those fucking people had the life. They're just like 10 a.m. ripping a cigarette, look so cool. Classy as hell. Drinking whiskey. Bosses.

Dude, boss suits. What an era. What an era. I don't know how they all live like past 30, but God bless. But anyway, this dude's sitting in there like late at night, and they've been having this session trying to come up with this idea for this new like marketing pitch and he's like oh my god i got it yes he like takes a drink he's like yes lays back and falls asleep in the next morning forgets he's like i had an amazing idea but i can't remember it and that taught me such a lesson so i i mean my my notes app, I don't know about you,

and my voice recording is loaded up with ideas. I have text messages to myself too. I put me as a contact. Yes. For a long time, I had a list called Ideas That Could Change My Life. And the Kia Boy video, Kia Boy idea was on that. That's what you called it. Ideas That Could Change My Life.

List of ideas that could change my life. What a name. And you should have a list like that. It doesn't matter what field you called it. Ideas that could change my life. A list of ideas that could change my life. What a name. And you should have a list like that. It doesn't matter what field you're in. If you're an entrepreneur or going out for yourself, you should have something like that. And I have a spreadsheet. I have Google Docs. I have endless.

I don't think I'll live long enough to do all the ideas I want to do. But, like, to me, if you aren't generating your own steam, your own ideas, how do you have passion for what you're doing? You don't. But you mentioned, like, you'll go on walks with your dogs and stuff. Are there other things you do? Shout out my dog, Frank, dude. Long walks? He's one of my best friends on earth, my dog, Frank.

That's cool. I take him into the woods. Usually it's me, my wife, and him. But ever since we had a baby, it's either I stay home and watch Ben and my wife goes out and walks Frank or vice versa, but take Frank off in the woods and the best, we have a trail within five minutes of our house. Even though we're in the city, you go along the river and there's a beautiful trail and I'll take Frank off the harness or he's free. And we'll go on little missions together. We're jumping over logs. We're running around. We might run up a hill. I'll do hill workouts with him. I don't know why I'm going

off on a tangent about how much I love my dog, but that's what I wanted to say at the moment. I love dogs. But like, yeah, I was getting into it. Cause like that's a place you think in flow state. Are there other ways you can hack that flow state? I used to, so light jogging, not at a pace that's too high, but light jogging where you're steadily going along. I used to do a lot of lawn mowing. I used to do that as a business when I was in eighth grade i went door to door and i did lawn mowing for many years that when you're just doing the lines the diagonal lines the horizontal lines ideas come into your head then listening to music sometimes i don't like getting super high but i'm like a one or two puff guy maybe i'll stretch a little sativa i don't even i'm not even that technical

about it i just there's these these joints called dog walkers oh man there's these little illinois dispensaries they're little joints because i've never been a guy that can like rip 16 bong rips and i feel okay i feel like i need this to end but if i take a couple puffs i'll edit or i'll go for a jog or i'll play with my dog and I feel good. And so sometimes ideas will float in that way. Car rides, you know, if I'm listening to music and I'm just driving and I'm focused on the road, idea will come in. Or I need to call this guy. I'm a big phone call guy.

That's the other thing. Yes. Sometimes I need to cut it out a little bit. But, like, I am constantly on the phone with contacts, creators, friends. Boom. Just, like, that's a big part of my job i think that's something i find over time a lot of us guys who are creating stuff have in common we like to talk on the phone we like because you're running ideas by people all the time or you're asking for feedback right you need you need that's where you get collaboration we I mean, phones have been around forever.

You can get access to anyone, anywhere they are, and you can talk things over. You know, like that's where I work out. My job here is to communicate, right? Like conversation flow or whatever. That's where like I work out my material unknowingly. Yeah. When I'm on long calls with people. And, you know, I'll see what kind of flows hit them to come up with better ideas.

And then it just kind of like builds into my conversation over time i don't know what i'd do without it and in our field well especially uh in the world i'm in with documentaries there's not a ton of people doing it so it's like being able to call brandon buckingham or andrew callahan or other guys on the youtube space, like Jordan Welch always has very wise advice. He's in the financial space on YouTube. It's nice to have other guys that are going through some similar things that it's like, what do you do in this situation? Or, hey, I think I'm going to launch this. What do you think about my rollout? So I'm always an alliance guy. I was a really competitive, like wrestling is one of the biggest influences in my life. And I was very competitive. I used to have a kind of a maniac streak to me, like, wrestling is one of the biggest influences in my life. And I was very competitive.

Like, I was, I used to have a kind of a maniac streak to me where like, would I be competing? Like, I'd be pacing. And if I can make eye contact with a guy and fucking lock eyes with him and let him know, like, if it lasts seven minutes, it's going to be like a long seven minutes for you. Like, I want to know that before it even started. But now I have a mentality of like,

we can all help each other out and this world is big enough for all of us to coexist just fine and have our own little niche and have our own little piece of the pie carved out and if I can help someone like uh I think one of the competitive advantages of my channel is my connections there's so many guys in this space that like I don't want to say I'm the plug but if people want to get in on the streets or in on some like shiesty connections, like they call me. And, um, and also like, especially if we're working with rappers, I love doing that. Cause if I can, okay, I can work with this rapper and he gets a few million views. Well, if I can put another guy that also is going to go and get

a different flavor of them, like it helps everybody, you know? But you talk about how so many people reach out to you cause they want attention. But then when get on the ground you end up talking with a lot of people is it usually like the main plug hooks you up with these other people or are you figuring out things there and getting to it usually like the main guy that i'm talking to before i go there he'll be one of the main characters of the video and he'll stay with me from a to z but he'll lead me into different places like okay we were in the project surrounded by the Trinitarios. Like this is the, this is the shooter. Okay. Let's talk to him. Okay. We've got enough of the gang shit. I want to talk to a mom that just is raising kids here normally and

see, also I want to see what the inside of an apartment's like around here. Like it looks a little grimy on the outside. What's it like on the inside? Is it big? Is it small? Is it tough to live here? Is it nice to live here? Do you have a plan of how much like you're gonna shoot because i see a lot of your videos you know there'll be 20 minutes there'll be 30 minutes right but you might be there for a couple days and you film with all these different people how do you how do you organize it um usually i'll give them a bullet point like for instance i'll tell you like i sent i'm working on a rapid city video which is the most dangerous city in South Dakota. That's an outlier.

But one of the most dangerous places I ever was was in Iowa, which is not a very dangerous place at all. But there's dangerous pockets everywhere you go. But I said, hello, sir. They wanted some checklists. So interview the boys, which is the biggest gang there. Preferably older, because I don't want to work with any reckless kids. A town leader. A business owner. Someone doing doing positive things a mom that has sons in the street a trap house characters people are funny have stories april 17th we're starting at 4 p.m

and then from there we just go where they take us and then i always have a feeling of like i've done shoots that get 2 million views that we were there for 45 minutes like the little cricks video in uh fort fort lauder kill they call it for a lot of kill a lot of kill now yeah um but i call it for liquor dale you ever hear that one oh i'm sure that they've they've done that to bring fort lean down and for uh we do you know um but i like movement and now like we're good at getting into the trenches but i want to color in the lines outside of that too like i want to get the kid that loves science class that lives in the projects like what does he think about all this stuff you know what is the grandpa that used to have the factory job that now sees his grandson running the streets what does he think about that if we can bump into a police officer what does he think about patrolling this area so i just want to like

give it more depth and also voiceovers can help with that. If someone brings up a point about guns, maybe this is a good time to insert. Gun laws in New York are very strict. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then that's where also you can educate a little bit, where you can tell some people things that they maybe didn't know. It's kind of like you're setting the the scene locations the main characters and the ideas of a movie you just don't know the ending yeah and it's more it's all freestyle there's nothing scripted there's nothing like um we have to go here for 10 minutes and do this like it's

all free flow what feels good and how how it's just i don't know it's it's fun like it's like uh they say in the entrepreneur space it it's like jumping off a cliff and building a plane on the way down. That's how I like to operate. I like that. But my wife, who's very organized, that can sometimes bother her immensely. What does she think about everything you do? She loves it.

She's more against than I am in some ways. I'm more nervous about doing some of these ideas than she gets. She's just like, oh yeah, I trust you. I bet you'll be okay. She's literally the perfect partner I could ever ask for. Like she holds everything down. She has an active hand. Like she does all the, every penny that comes in and out of every single business we have.

She does the books. Oh, let's go. Super organized. Where I'd be the guy, if I had to do my own books, I'd wait like three months procrastinating. I hate doing this shit. And then I'd be chasing down receipts from three months ago and trying to do it. Don't get divorced though, bro. She knows never know she's the best she's honestly the best she's she runs the merch operation um she helps with all the real estate too so wow i have

a very good base like every time i go home i'm excited to go home that's great i'm in good hands i'm ha like oh one of my favorite things is like driving home from the airport and I'll drop off Keegan, I'll drop off Miguel, and then I'm speeding to my house. We all live five minutes from each other. Speed to my house, because I'm so excited. I run in the door, Frank appears at the top of the stairs, wags his tail, shakes his little butt, comes down and says hi. Then I go upstairs and Sarah's in bed and I'll give her a hug. I like going home. That's awesome, man man that's the most important thing you have yeah the most important decision and i haven't made it yet obviously but

the most important decision you make in life is the woman you marry 100 100 100 behind every great man is a great woman and if you don't have a clean as far as like put together home that you are happy to go to like that like that's the dream right there being that pump speeding home yeah but if you don't have that it throws off i know for me like especially that would throw off my whole life oh for sure unhappy wife completely unhappy life but i think i think you gotta find someone that this is gonna be obvious but like rolls in the same rhythm you do like for instance like our priorities is not about flexing it's not about acquiring it's not about the mercedes it's about like when you describe like what our fun things are to do it's like we like walking frank yeah we like putting

a record on and dancing with the baby we like cooking together let's have cheeseburgers like it's i think we have a very simple life simple taste and a lot it's beautiful like it's never like yeah there's things that we want to shoot for like okay like would we like to travel to greece one day or italy one day of course like we want to do nice things or but like our joy comes in a lot of very little things like let's play cribbage together it's midwest little game a what a cribbage you've ever seen a cribbage board before her family brought that into me it's like a little board yeah yeah cribbage you have these little pegs and you have all these little holes and it's a kind of a card game and little things like that that's to me like i like that that's awesome we go to bed we both have a book we read until our eyes get blurry close off the light

ah i don't think i've ever seen that before it's very midwestern thing i've never been west of pennsylvania so oh wow yeah i've been all up and down the east coast all over europe never west of pennsylvania i went to alaska when i was four that doesn't count alaska is a very beautiful place yeah but i barely remember i was like you know four shout out to the hoffman clan for bringing that game into my life by the way pretty cool but what you described there i'm i'm very much with you i don't understand you know we live in this flex culture now with social media and all that Came into my life, by the way. Pretty cool. But what you described there, I'm very much with you. I don't understand. We live in this flex culture now with social media and all that.

I'll wear shoes from 2011 if I like them. Who cares? I mean, that's what I... I'm just such a simple guy with that stuff. All my money goes right back into this business right here. We want the studio to look good, right? Yeah. Like, you want your stuff to look good.

It looks fucking great but you know it's it's refreshing to hear someone that has such a high-paced life like you do in this game of attention which is what we're in right that you're humble and you have your your main priorities of happiness of in life in check like that's something that a lot of people and you're young too like a lot of people they in your type of position they don't. You know, let me ask you a question. There was a Netflix show that came out. I will teach you how to be rich by, uh, Ramit Sethi. Anyways, financial guy, really cool, uh, questions you would ask people like, such as like, what is your rich life? So for example, for me, a rich life is being able to buy a steak and not ever worrying

about the price. That to me, I'm okay. I'm rich if I can do that. A rich life might be having a few acres in a place that when I go to my backyard, I can't see anybody. A rich life might be once every three months, me and my wife are going to go to Airbnb and just have two or three days to herself that's quiet. So when you ask yourself those types of questions, what comes to mind for you?

What's a rich life for you? Very happy wife who I'm deeply in love with. Great kids. Not having to worry about an out-to-dinner bill right on line with that stake point. Were you ever frugal where eating out would be painful to you? Oh, yeah, man. Listen, this podcast, and this always has to be said this podcast never happens without my parents for the first three and a half years i had a

studio that i built in my dad's back room nice rent free yeah so it never happens without them yeah but in that moment where i had that privilege to be able to do that i had nothing yeah i mean he saw me i shit in the hat basically like i had nothing and i've i've lived it we just crossed a little bit ago the four year mark of me working seven days a week doing this to the point that he's giving me an intervention that i didn't need saying like dude you're gonna break down like this is a problem but you're obsessed i'm obsessed with getting it to a point where I can have those simple things. What I am not the best at, and I'm not that upset that I'm not the best at this, is maximizing my money or anything like that. I don't respond to money.

I never had money in my life. My previous career that I thought I was going to do forever, it was the kind of job you come out of college, you go into this part of Wall Street I was on. You were in Wall Street. I worked on Wall Street. I know how hard that is to believe, but it's true. You come out of college. You work this part of Wall Street. I was on you in Wall Street I worked on Wall Street I know how hard that is to believe but it's true you come out of college you work for three four years like a dog Four or five years you make no money you look paycheck to paycheck If you do a great job, and you're with the right people then you get the offer I was with the right people. I loved my boss to death. I hated the work

We did I mean picture me in a fucking suit doing what kind of week 80 90 hour weeks no it was different because i worked on the private banking side which was a lot of relationship building too so i'm out in the city with people so it wasn't like going to dinners lunches right which is that you know that it sounds nice on the surface level but that's an annoying like i don't know about you i cannot eat restaurant food often or i feel terrible that's what i'm saying dude like it's the kind of lifestyle i would work out two times a day, you know, to make sure I was in shape and everything. So I was in great shape. But like I hated the work, loved the community aspect of it, loved my boss.

My boss offers me a contract. I'll never say how much it was, but I'll just say I would have been a wealthy man to take it. I looked at him. I said no. And I went and moved into my parents' house and I started a fucking podcast, which is the dumbest thing you could do. But I don't respond to money. That that said i don't want to be poor i don't want to be destitute in my life i want to make sure that like i'm taking financially independent correct not flexing not balling but like you answer to yourself and you do the things you

want to do that's a rich life that's a rich life man but but the more important things are the people you have around you in that life if you have that financial independent life and your wife's a bitch and like and you know you don't have kids or something like that that doesn't work man and living a life that you get to tell stories that's a very valuable thing too absolutely oh i was you know interviewing this guy from the cia andrew whatever bustamante that's a cool thing to be able to tell yeah your friends your kids and there's so many jobs because i've been there, that are kind of just, I don't know if soul sucking would be the best way to do it, but it's just like, is this all there is? Am I just going to hit my quota another month, staring at these goddamn cubicle walls? It's not bad.

I guess here's another thing. For people out there that are like, I want to change, there's something I want to chase, but I don't know what it is. If I didn't do my day job for five years, I wouldn't be doing what I am now. That's right. Here's why. Two reasons. One, my day job, I grew up in the whitest place in America you probably grew up in. They assigned me the hoodiest zip codes in Milwaukee, 53206.

What was the day job? Selling payroll to small businesses. Oh, boy. Six out of 10 people in the day job? Selling payroll to small businesses. Oh boy. Six out of 10 people in the zip code had been to prison or jail. It was scary. It was a scary zip code. Bordered up houses everywhere, bullet holes. It was scary, but I spent five years out there and I got comfortable in the hoods. And if I hadn't done that, would I be comfortable doing what I am now? Probably not. Here's the other thing. Knowing when to jump. Starving artists is a real thing. So I did the day job and I was doing the pranks on the side. I did the day job. I was doing the pranks on the side. I lived like a monk. I would eat as cheap as I could, healthy, but cheap, cook every meal myself, go to work, go to the fight gym, go home, go to

sleep, edit, do my stuff. There was no partying. There was no club. There was no, I just put tons of money away. I got to buy my first property. I bought a four unit building in Milwaukee. When? Probably 2017 or 18. Wow. Guess how much a four unit went for in that, this time.

In Milwaukee? My guess would be horrible. I have no idea. I want to hear your horrible guess. A four unit building. Four unit building. two bedrooms in each unit brick 120 157 that wasn't bad pretty good yeah but momentum takes the time to build so i didn't buy my next property and probably until like another two years after that i ended up buying a duplex i had no idea what i was doing. Now, when I buy property, I buy single families and I buy vacant. So I can do the work on them. They're nice. And I can pick

who moves in. Before I would just buy and it was some like slumlord bullshit that I have to like try and fix while someone's living in there. And by the way, the person living there upstairs has a squatter upstairs in the attic. Downstairs, her son's a Kia boy and there's drive-by shootings happening at the house. And I have to go visit and try and figure out what the hell is going on and get people out of there so i learned a lot in that business but then momentum builds and now it's like you know i could buy a house frequently and i can keep buying them and i can build a portfolio up to where i want it to be and i will always be independent so even if youtube assassinates me which i doubt they will we work great together.

We love YouTube. But if they do, I'm not going back to the day job. I'm going to be self-sustaining. So it's never about like, oh, I need the purple Lamborghini with the plush sheets. I just want to buy a ribeye steak occasionally when I want to, treat my wife to an Airbnb, and walk my dog whenever the hell I want. It sounds like from the start, you had a plan. I had an escape plan from the beginning of joining corporate America. Before you explain that, I love your point about how those years molded you,

prepared you to do this now. I don't need to get in mine. I agree 100% from what I did just from relationship building. Not your relationship building, just another sphere. So those skills, if you're doing something and you have to be there, you might as well apply yourself. That's right. It's just sad to watch someone do something

and they don't apply themselves. And I get sometimes if it's something you don't like, you have to like bully yourself into it. I do that a lot in my, okay, I'm going to do 30 cold calls. I just like put a timer on my phone. I have a check mark. Hey, Mrs. So-and-so, you just do it. And there's times you

don't want to but then i'm there i might as well apply myself i might as well learn something i might as well make some money but you had that escape plan from the beginning you're like no way in hell you're 22 you coming out of college and you take this job going door to door doing payroll and you're like no way in hell x number of years from now am i ever going to be doing this fucking job did you know that you want to be a youtuber like you were doing prank videos pretty early on i mean i would have loved for anything to take off i had a little resting school maybe 15 to 20 kids i was running i was hoping that would take off i was hoping youtube would take off i was hoping real estate would take off. I was just hedging my bets and then ready to jump when the time came.

And in fact, I didn't have the balls to make the jump myself. I got fired from another corporate job. That was even more corporate than the payroll job. I had a job. I got a job where I was supposed to be calling on Fortune 500 CEOs and C-suite executives about designing things that would help improve, you know, marginally improve outcomes in their business. Oh, so this is a different job from payroll.

Yes. So you bounce to a different one. Got a new one, little pay upgrade, but it was even more miserable. I had so many stupid meetings in that company. Like I had a boss, nice guy. Thanks for hiring me. But he insisted on having like four hour meetings at times where he would go through a PowerPoint.

And it was so i felt like i wanted to like i was getting back issues from how much i was sitting and i thought i was gonna jump off a bridge dude it was just too much and then at the end of that i'm supposed to walk into you know milwaukee tool ceo as a guy that doesn't know that much about their business and be like sir you know some things that you should do? Like, I just, oh, you need to small talk a plumber at Johnson Controls, work your way up into the C-suite. I just couldn't do it. And then they fired me. Why didn't you get fired officially?

They just knew my heart wasn't in it. They could just tell. Oh, that's it. They were just like, get out of here. They're like, you know what? You've been here for a few. The other thing is they, I don't need to get into the details. They could tell my heart wasn't into it. And just tell oh that's it they were just like they're like you know what you know you've been here for the other thing is they i don't need to get in the details they could tell my heart wasn't into it and they made the right call it was the best professional thing that's ever happened to me in my life and you went full-time youtube right when that happened

so when that happened i think i had two properties and i was doing not that good on youtube not at all like i was maybe breaking even i i lost money on youtube for a long time like yeah how many subs did you have at this time 80 000 okay and i was on the brink of maybe quitting because it just wasn't taking off now you got like 1.6 or some it's ridiculous um but i said i told sweet cheeks my wife i said hey i got that's she's the best i told her i got six months to dive into this real estate youtube wrestling if i'm not making making X by, you know, this time, I'll go back and get a day job. Month four or five, the Kiowoy video happened. And then that was it.

That video changed it because that has what, like seven and a half million views? But think about this. Think about how cool my wife is in this situation because she's working a job. I'm kind of working a job. I got a little bit of stuff to do and then i you know what was she doing she was working for a marketing firm and i was also while doing this i started helping my friend grow his real estate portfolio i was managing like 15 20 properties walking him expecting him so i learned the real estate

game really well there and shout out to my guy keith he's the fucking man one of my best friends on earth um but i have not that much income coming in and we're getting married in like five months six months and she lets her husband her fiance chase his dreams and bet on himself rather than like she easily could have said you got fired dude we're getting married in six months we just bought a house like that's right go get another job like what are you talking about you're just gonna do this dude you hit a home run man man. Dude, she is, she's the best. How'd you meet her? She was my neighbor in my duplex. So I lived in a duplex and we knew of each other. She dated people. I dated people. And sometimes we'd bump into each other every once in a while. Like we'd be both shoveling, you know, when a big snowstorm, we'd be out shoveling,

sharing the job together. And we talked to her. Maybe I got out of my car while she was outside. I'd say hi. Very little though. COVID hit and they're like, oh, you got to be on lockdown. I'm going to go insane. Hey, you want to meet on the front porch? So she goes down. She was the upper unit.

She meets me in the front porch. We start hanging out. We start hanging out. I can't stop thinking about her, dude. Like all of a sudden, everything, like I started playing Sudoku to try and hang, like she's interested in Sudoku. Oh, let's play Sudoku.

Anything that it was that she was interested in,oku. Oh, let's play Sudoku. Anything that she was interested in, I was down to do so I could spend more time with her. Slowly but surely, I had the courage to ask her out, which was a risk because it's kind of peeing where you eat. If it goes wrong, it could go really wrong. She thought about it a little bit. I think about this often. She said yes. Then we bought a house maybe a year after that got married about a year after that that's beautiful man life is good yeah like i said like the way you're laying this out it's such a perfect setup for you and what i like is you know you

always wish when you see people doing things whether it's any kind of artist right whether it be a youtuber a musician you fuck with an actor you like whatever you if if they seem a certain way you always hope that they're like that in real life and the one thing about you is like your energy is there at all times you are so happy go lucky in the world and just happy to attack the next thing and i think the first thing you said to me down in the parking garage was like, dude, I'm so lucky to do this. This is the most amazing thing. Like to see you even at this size working this hard doing God knows how many documentaries at the same time and having that attitude while managing all the stress of doing all this stuff,

which I want to talk about a little bit. Like it's an amazing thing and it's very beautiful because I feel like a lot of people, they lose their happiness in doing this stuff. And that's something I contend with all the time because, you know, the stresses can come in. I mean, he sees it. And it's like, oh, my God, where are we getting the joy out of this? I get joy being in this studio. But this is 3% of it.

You know, that other 97%, it's not like you're going to like everything at all times. But your attitude, the way you carry yourself with it, it seems like you look at everything as like a great adventure. And it's like, all right, let's get on to the next thing. I'm a very, I don't know if, yeah, I probably do have ADD, but like I'm a very tangent, tangential guy, but I have so much on my plate. Like I'm helping to launch this Milwaukee Wrestling Academy where we crowdfunded 40 grand for kids in the hood that are going to have a new academy to go to. Whoa. And I'm helping. I'm going to run that.

And then I have three coaches that I'm going to put on payroll. And I'm going to get funding. And we're putting it together. So I have that going. I have the real estate. I have the YouTube. I have my family. So it's like I always have something that I can dive into that's going to be fun.

That's right. And I love real estate. It's so much fun to me. I'll find three abandos that a real estate agent's gonna help me walk through i bring frank he comes in the car with me we get in the house i let him off the leash he walks around i walk around we check it out i bring the contractor oh this can be 17k k doesn't need a roof how's the furnace going i just get to jump into so many different pots that i'm never bored and work doesn't feel like work i could do like

you said seven days a week but it's like i almost have to't feel like work i could do like you said seven days a week but it's like i almost have to it's like now i have to like physically sometimes like okay you gotta stop turn it off yeah it's hard to stop sometimes and that's i was gonna say where do you get the time for all this stuff like i know how much and i haven't done it personally but i have friends who do i know how much goes into real estate and and how much details that is you have all your multiple places as well you're running a youtube business where it requires you to travel everywhere i mean that's a benefit of what i do people come here right like you're going to all the how do you

how the fuck do you get the time it's a job that could be i can do it anytime anywhere and also i built a really great team i have such great people with me on the team that it's not just my channel, it's our channel. And the real estate side, I have a great contracting team. I have my plumbers, my electricians, my general contractors. I just have the proper people. And I've gone through a lot of failure. I've lost lots of money investing in the wrong people or getting the right... I have everything. It not perfect but it's streamlined now so i know who to call for what and it goes well how big is your youtube team so the main team that i travel with is three me keegan and miguel but i also have another editor in milwaukee jack who's really really great he

probably edits two out of five of the documentaries that come out um i got kristen who makes all my fly any sort of designs i need for flyers she does work here and there for me and she's really great at that i got a i think he's from russia the thumbnail guy is fantastic um my wife does the book she has the merch uh i got plague boulevard who gavin who is my merch boulevard he's he makes really cool if you look up streetwear, he makes really cool stuff. And he does. Let's give him a little shout out. Yeah, Plague Boulevard.

It's called Plague Boulevard Streetwear? Yeah, just Plague Boulevard, you'll find him. He's exponentially made my merch better. So he's a guy that he can do any, from a croc accessory to a duffel bag to a sweatshirt to embroidery. Oh, you're going outside a lot. No, let's do do if you type in plague plague yeah yeah sorry yep yep this guy's the man yep right there that one yeah and so look how many different things he designs and a lot of it is custom fabric um let's see shop the

collection yeah let's do that clothing check out the hoodies yeah so like see that red hoodie with all the the sleeve work? He just makes hip shit. That collared shirt, I don't wear a lot of collared shirts, but I feel fucking fresh when I rock that rugby shirt. But he's a guy that's a, he's a really, he's a craftsman in what he does. So, like, he'll even do it where, like, he gets custom measurements for every small, medium, and large, or he'll get custom fabric.

And this is actually just a small portion of the stuff he does. How'd you find this guy? My friend Brandonon buckingham i believe worked with him for a few drops and we got buckingham kid is connected man i see him all he's connected because like he's got a big following and everything but like his his traction on the internet like he he's gonna be he should be way bigger than he is the only thing that's stopping him from being bigger is consistent upload. Brandon Buckingham is the man. He's funny.

He's witty. He's smart. He's sympathetic. But sometimes, like, now he's back on track and he's growing fast. Yeah. But that's literally, like, I've seen it in the wrestling world. You can be the most talented wrestler in the room, but if you miss half the practices, the guy that's not as good is going to catch you.

That's right. But when Brandon is releasing every week, dude, there's no stopping what that kid can do. And he is extremely well-connected. He has a very loyal, loyal fan base, too. Yes. They ride. Yes. Cold-ass ride.

And shout out Brandon Buckingham. They ride for him. And so he was good. I saw his Sneeko thing. That was where he came on my radar. I would love to see him being locked in a cage at Sneeko. Yeah. What was the deal there? radar i would love to see him being locked in a cage it's nico yeah i don't even know nico personally enough to like not like him myself but knowing how it went down between him and brandon

um if you're such a big tough guy put where your money where your mouth is like he's he's called out a lot of like puny little streamer kids that like haven't been outside of their room in years and they look like that and then like apparently he's been done boxing a guy that actually is a formidable challenge uh brandon buckingham wrestled for a long time yeah he's a blue belt in jujitsu and if he actually if he went more consistently he'd probably be a purple brown belt by now very tricky man he did a boxing fight it won't take long to tell you Neutral's ingredients. Vodka, soda, natural flavors. So, what should we talk about?

No sugar added. Neutral. Refreshingly simple. I saw that, yeah. If you're tough, let's see it then. He tried to do some... From what I understand, and I haven't heard his side of it, but I love Brian Buckingham, and I know him well, and I know he's a man that tells the truth.

Sneeko did some dirty shit. It was like a two-and- hour documentary or something it was no joke the call out of him too was hilarious like anyways um i'm not really a guy that has i don't have any enemies i don't look for enemies i don't like you don't seem like it i don't like to do drama it makes it doesn't make me feel good i'd rather like be a buddy with someone or just not talk to him at all. So I'm not trying to stoke flames here. But all I'll say is if the two of them went at it, I know who I have my money on. It's very strange that we simultaneously have this huge uptick within the YouTube community, be it independent media and independent creators doing cool shit.

And at the same time, I view it very separately. We have this uptick in the streamer community, which something i know so little about but it's like have you watched many streamers no like i've watched videos of them on youtube i don't get it there's two guys i really love there's this guy uh agent zero and ghost and they have very good breakdowns but 99 percent of streamers i watch that i've ever seen is like, yo, W chat, chat, chat. I'm going to drink some coffee, chat, chat. Do you hear about Kim Kardashian chat? And like, it's such a weird thing.

Like there's this kid, um, neon. Yes. Oh my God. What a little, I don't want to diss the kid, but like, I don't understand what is captivating. I don't get it. It's a guy that he's not even like, even when he's in, like they even, this is what they call it in the stream world. I are out in real life. They even have a yes they're so not in reality that they have a term

for fucking existing normally and it's like what the hell like they'll be at a ufc event and instead they're like taking in like all these comments coming in instead of like like there's a cage right there and there's like world-class fighters in front of you but and there's people all around that could be interesting to have a conversation with yet they're like w chat shall we chat the w chat streamer thing i just um maybe i'm just too old i look like a grandpa right now but i don't get it i don't get it either man and i totally agree i i think it's like bad for society and and i'm thinking about who are the people in these chats that are buzzing like crazy it's all the little kids yeah it's like what are they learning i think there's a certain there's a certain group on the internet

especially with the younger you get that simply follower count is whether that person is worth listening to or not so if someone just happens to have a hundred thousand or a million people like oh they must be good and it's like follow the monkey you know like yes but to me if you're gonna spend time listening to someone they gotta bring something new to the conversation interesting they gotta have a take that like naval rabicon he's undeniable if you are undeniable in your craft you deserve an audience people are gonna tune in but if you the best you can come up with this w chat like the fact that and these guys are bawling too these guys are bawling they're killing because not only when they're doing w chat are people watching, but they're donating.

They're literally like, I don't know if their parents' bank account is hooked up to Roblox or how they're doing it, but like, oh, he just had WChat again. I'm going to send like a $9 tip in there. And then he gets a million of these $9 tips, and suddenly this guy has security. He has a lamp. Like, what? It just props to somebody that's navigating the internet and having success doing it. I'm not a hater.

I'm not. But I don't get it. I don't get it either. But I actually think it would be really good for you to do some content on that at some point. Like, go do some sort... Like, go inside it and be like, what the fuck are you people doing?

Like, day in the life of a streamer type of thing? Yeah, but talk to a bunch of them. I think that'd be so cool. The... What's the name of it? It's the hype house it's the amp house so that those are some of the biggest streamers in the country it's kai sanat agent zero yeah a few other guys they have a compound at the top of the hill in a very nice area built on streaming so and kai sanat was able to like start a new riot in New York over like a free Xbox or something. That was like in August, I think.

So there's certain, like they, they have their hand on the pulse. And again, some of those guys are really good. Like shout out Ghost, shout out Ancient Zero. Like they, they oftentimes almost every week react to a recent video I put out and I love watching it. Cause it's like, Oh, like Ghost was a guy that kind of grew up on the streets. I believe in Chicago. And he's like like he's a guy that the thugs listen to because like he knows what he's talking about and he's a really good guy like he donated

to the charity as well that was the like going back to this milwaukee wrestling academy i want to talk about this a little bit what i learned about milwaukee is there's not really any strong wrestling community this is a town of 600 000 people that not a state champion hasn't come out of there recently. It's the biggest town in Wisconsin. We should be dominating downstate. COVID killed sports. There's just across the board. So what I want to do is I want to help these coaches and I want to help these kids have a place that they can train.

And so we crowdfunded. I did a live event at the Oriental Theater in Milwaukee. I donated a good chunk of money and then i got people around the country we had my lawyer donated we had different youtubers punch made dev the scam rapper donated we had a guy that i met out in atlanta that does real estate like we just crowdfunded all this money and then every every penny from the ticket sales also went to the charity and uh to me it's so cool like we were going going back earlier i feel like i can't get into like the buttoned up sides of life really like they turned me down no corporate money came

from milwaukee and part of me gets it like hey i'm the kid that did a documentary on car thieves and fentanyl dealers like why is my company gonna write a check to this guy right so i'm hoping when they see that when we launch this that i'm serious that like i'm not ever gonna take a penny from any of this stuff it's going into the kids into the coaches into the facility i'm hoping we can get corporate milwaukee involved in that and that's one of the projects right now that i'm working on that i'm like i feel excited to wake up and there's your there's your little boil in the pot instead of the whole ocean i love that but it's it's also like the fact that you have to say like oh well some of these corporations give to a guy who made a video on fentanyl dealers and stuff.

But you're telling the stories. Like, OK, it's a little more on the edges of society, if you will. But like someone's got to do this. You're doing it in an entertaining, educational way. Like I don't understand why today in like the post-Trump tweeting out his fucking live thoughts from the white house era people care about like that's a good thing to come of it people care about all the appearances with things so this is the thing a lot of corporations right now are very scared because they're ran by these progressive hr yeah people that like one toe is stepped out of line and it's like it's not good

and so it's like they just mitigate their risk they want to survive they want to do well so it's like if it's like hey you know we might like They want to survive. They want to do well. So it's like if it's like, hey, you know, we might like the cause, but this is risky. Like there's a million other people they could find to donate money to, like the Boys and Girls Club or the basketball player, the famous basketball players charity, like more established, well-known names that are safe bets. So I get it. But I want to turn that tide because I want to do something really special. And there's coaches. There's these coaches that are coming out of their own pocket to coach the sport of wrestling. There's this guy, O'Brien Mungin in Milwaukee.

He was one of the last state champs that came out of the city. He's been coaching for free, actually out of his own pocket. So he'll just have kids show up at his house, hey, they need a ride. But they don't have money for the tournament. They don't have money for food for the tournament. They don't have wrestling shoes. And he's just paying it out of his own pocket. So he's one of the champions of this movement

that like we just gotta give this guy a place to grow and expand and do well out of and wrestling is a sport that changed my life

anyone that's been in it long enough it changes their life it gives you discipline dedication it makes you tough I kind of had like

my parents didn't spoil me it's not like I got a Mercedes Benz on my 16th birthday but I never worried like are we gonna be able to pay the mortgage is there gonna be food in the fridge like they gave me a very stable loving encouraging house to grow up out of but wrestling is what made me tough wrestling is what made me be able to like like grind and push through things and like met

like when you are in a sport where in a practice room like you it's encouraged even sometimes like to mentally break somebody like like can you take a guy down enough that when you just hold his head on the mat and he's trying to stand up you take him down again you hold his head until he gets up you take him down again i've been on the receiving end and that but i've also been the hammer too and uh like when you go through a sport like that it makes you durable it makes you tough it makes you resilient persistent and those are characteristics that when i see youth in milwaukee hey do you want to go do some like sketchy shit that's going to take away from your community or do you want to be the next fucking leader coming out of here i'm putting my money behind that there was i think it was in the

st louis video you were talking to a one of the i think it was like one of the bigger gangsters or something towards the end and you asked them something like yo how would you fix this and he was like come invest in the community give people give people things to to celebrate whether it just be like concerts or actual like after-school things that the kids can get into and this is the same guy who openly i guess is like also recruiting some of these kids into doing this stuff it's strange though that a guy like that could have the presence of mind when he's talking with you to also think about oh like kia boy video yeah yeah was it was it yeah yeah like the kids don't have shit to do that's a common thing that i hear it's but you know it's so simple but it's crazy that the people who are in the middle of it know it and then still

well that's just how it goes you know i think a lot of people are so stretched that they're on survival mode like a lot of these guys are not thinking a week ahead a year ahead it's today and because of that when your vision is 10 years in the future like you have steps you have a path you have a place to go when your vision is today you're not like how much can you get done in today not much you know like everything is brick by brick and so it's obvious why the bricks aren't being built when you're today not five years ten years yeah it's it's the instant gratification society but i also saw by the way because this podcast started in south jersey i'm from there originally. South Jersey, baby. You went to Kensington for a while? When was this?

In Philly? A year or so ago. And what did you do there? I didn't see this video. There was a local named Reekin Bull, rapper, also involved in the A&R rap community. He tries to sign people. He DM'd me, hey, I want to take you through Kensington. He had a few friends for us to walk through with because it's kind of a scary place to walk through and

You just walk through it and you're just like can't even believe that this is a real place like people are openly doing fentanyl everywhere you look and We walked into a guy that was overdosing and it's like Okay, like one of the guys and Reekin Bowles crew hadn't was talking about hey, I can not can he didn't have it But he's done it multiple times. Luckily, someone was nearby. He gets revived. He gets back up to his feet, and then we interview him.

Like, dude. And he was lucid. Can we pull this up? Yeah. Yeah, let's pull up this video. So how long after he gets to his feet do you interview him? He was pretty lucid within five minutes afterwards. He was able to talk about it pretty clearly.

Do you remember where this was in the video i would say probably seven minutes in let's see okay let's try to skip forward on i'll turn the volume on see that spike moment in the middle see what that is oh so one thing i'm picking up of Philly slang is a bowl. That's the first thing I've heard people. Is it summer when you're there? Drawling? What is drawling? There's that guy overdosing right now.

Look, look, look. He's about to try and bring you back. OK, you don't film that. Do you need anyone to call a cop? Is it cold? Put it on his balls. The ambulance right there. She said put the cold water on his balls.

So look, he's just back up on his feet. Oh, I'm good. So what's going on right now? They better give me some Narcan. They always keep it on us around here. And they're all dealing it out to us for free. Put that in their nose and it instantly sends an adrenaline shot to their brain and to the heart to make them revive fast. It's like a resuscitation kit.

You'll give them Narcan, bring them back, and they'll get mad at you because the narcans take away their high die off the drug that you want to save your life like the other thing i've heard is that when they find the guy who od the other guys look for who sold it that because that's the good stuff that they want somebody almost died off your work thank you for what you do okay let's get you some water and stuff So basically he's gonna go through withdrawal heavy, so it's not gonna be a comfortable time So what do you do does he go to a He's gonna wait them hours that it take for the whereof and he's gonna buy some more of whatever that had him almost dying revolving cycle like they don't want help they'd be mad at you when you say they lied i refuse to let you die on my wife so how often do you guys see a friend go through something

like this down here you see at least every day bro every day at least a dozen down here like i'm talking about every day and can you guys tell me a little bit more about your journey, how you ended up in Kansas? She's over there recovering. I got out of state, and I went to Kansas. So, actually, we didn't talk to the guy that OD'd. We just talked to this guy in the orange the whole time. All right. So, one thing I want to bring up, the approach of this.

Like, one, we were just walking by, but I felt like we got some very genuine reactions. We talked to the black guy you were talking about. It's like, I've done this multiple times, but they just want to get high again. We talked to the friend. To me, I felt like it was as off the cuff and natural. CNN put out a hit piece saying that that was exploitation. CNN hit you on this. They have a video about me and Brandon Buckingham about our coverage of Kensington was exploitive. How?

What was exploitive? We even blurred the guy's face as he was out and um they're like no one's forced to be like they're they're giving their story and they want to give their story and we're learning something really important is there a video of cnn going off on you yeah cnn cnn kensington i think all right let's type in cnn kensington this is why they're such pussies to me because um because then they try and they do the same format. Yes, Reddit and Claim. Look at the comment section.

When you actually click on the CNN video. Oh, is it going to do it again? Is it freezing a little bit? Hold on one sec. All right, we got it. All right, good. So they say we're exploiting people for clicks. Hit that real quick.

It's even. I think go back one. Go back to the... And then I'll go to that CNN inside the center. Oh, yeah, inside the center. That's it. All right, let's hit this. All right, so Kensington, Philadelphia neighborhood.

And if we can see it on YouTube, you'll see the comment section roasting CNN. I think they do it at the end of the video. Going even deeper, even deeper. Let's go five minutes in. A little bit further. More. Right there.

There's a live stream of Kensington and El Ghani up right now and there's like a thousand people watching and they're all in the comments making fun of people you know giving them nicknames people drive by all day videotaping and of course us addicts we don't appreciate it it's not like anybody wants to go to my video one more time let's look at the comment section because what what i'm really proud of is like okay let's say let's take another video uh in chicago with pimps and prostitutes the entire comment section is cheering for these prostitutes and like baby that's where she goes by like we

know you we can do this like cheering her on in her journey um is it recent that you just were on at the ken yeah yeah he wants the comment section from the kensington video we did yeah or it can even be that the pimps and prostitutes too um no that's back to chicago go to go to most popular hit my popular tab and it's gonna kensington will be at the top of that list it'll be city of zombies down the red right there yeah so just look at the comment section real quick and then yeah um i refuse to let you die on my watch. That's a solid ass dude right there. I know this area. Been there many times.

I'm from Philly. Seen someone live through this every day and have an empathy. And not being complete. What a guy. You know, people sharing their stories about addiction. The dude in the white t-shirt was genuinely a nice and caring guy. Like the comment section felt it. But then CNN. Because you just captured it on the way through cnn comes out how me and brandon are exploiting people

and then try and do a shittier version of what we just did the same thing and it gets a less than a hundred of the views which is like r.i.p but mainstream media but do you hear what they're saying though too like the way that they put it they're like they're like us uh they're insulting us addicts and everything like look i don't want to insult people you're shitty on the street with school children walking by when you exist in public doing that you also will face the brunt of public opinion exactly and that doesn't mean we don't have sympathy that you're in that position or that we hope that you get help or that we hope you become more better different whatever but like you can't do fat now when kids are getting off the school bus and be like why are you getting mad at me like we've turned into a society where we're so afraid to make other people feel bad

that we want to make everyone feel loved at all times which in a way like i'm all for but we do it to the extent where we take it so far that then we enable these behaviors by saying, oh no, you're okay. Keep doing that. If I went in front of somebody's house and shit outside of their front door, do you think I deserve to be like, if the dad came out and almost slapped me or yelled at me, would I deserve that? If you shouldn't, fuck yeah. So, I mean, when you're doing crazy shit in public again i know that you're struggling with addiction i know that things are difficult and like i'm helped like if there's programs help if there's things that can be done to help your situation of course but you have a

response it's you doing it you have a responsibility of what you are doing and like that's the other thing like a lot of these news pieces will do is like, or at least that one we just heard is like, oh, who's the bad guy? The guy that was filming it. That's the bad guy. Like I get a little bit of blowback in Milwaukee about the Kia boy story. They're like, why is a white boy coming to our hood and shooting and filming the Kia boy? One, I was invited by a guy that lived there. Two, how can you look at a kid that has stolen 200 cars and the problem is me asking him why he did it, not him doing it, from his own community?

And how many people don't have insurance that he's stealing from that, okay, can they still go to their job? Can they still pay rent because now they can't go to their job? Do they go homeless? Do they go to shelter? Like, no, no, no. But that kid, we can't, we're not going to call him out. He's a scholar. He's doing, like, we're going to call the guy filming it and it's like okay like it's so ass backwards man

that's again like the mentality of looking at the one percent leak versus the 99 percent leak if you want to be serious about issues we there's a lot of tough things we got to look at in the mirror as a country from top to bottom but we got to look at it in the mirror it's never going to change yeah and also like we've we've become these you've talked about it throughout the day today but we've become these robots the slave to the system whatever our system is our system may be the street where we grow up and we become a drug addict our system may be go get a job in corporate america and stay there and just say yes ma'am to whoever the fuck the person above you saying stupid shit to you to do and not question anything and it's like people are becoming that they're they're adapting more to things that were not

tantamount to like what the american dream was supposed to be you know i feel like we we've you always have parts of society that are off it's always been a thing but i feel like it's a way higher percentage now because people are becoming more you know the herd of cattle you know what i mean yeah um i wonder this this is like the trillion dollar question how do you take neighborhoods whether they're the trailer parks whether they're the rural country areas that are really beat to hell right now or whether it's the hoods wherever you look how do you take those places and make them more stable, better, safer, so that these kids do have roots they can actually put down? Because picture growing up, like next door is boarded up, next door is shot up. You're across the street, neighbor's dealing out of his house. Every day, every day in the summer, you hear gunshots somewhere. I mean,

what do you expect sometimes from how these kids might turn out and then let's just say they have a single parent family mom's at work most of the time like boys getting this shit so like the question is what can the government do what can you do and i have a few answers on either end we kind of already got into this but that's what i think is like what i want to see a president run on is like here's my plan to help because we don't need like like barrington illinois where you saw that uh massive mega church we don't barrington illinois, Illinois, where you saw that massive megachurch. Barrington, Illinois does not need that much focus and attention right now. But what about north side Milwaukee? What about south side Chicago?

What about rural Tennessee, Appalachia area? Who's going to come around and be like, here's some ways that maybe the people struggling the most can at least not feel like they're drowning all the time. Because I feel like if you relieve the drowning, a lot of the danger and crime will probably go away. Because I think a lot of that is just like, I feel like I'm drowning, so I'm going to get mine however I want. So how do you relieve the drowning? That's kind of the question I think about. Like you said, it's a trillion dollar question. But you also have systems that are designed to be in place where, you know, the people with the most money get to decide what goes and then whoever the victims of that is, is whatever it is. And we I mean, one of the stories that we've seen in modern history that's so mind blowing that, you know, affects to this day, so many people's the whole opium crisis have you done any content on that no but i've seen some of the documentaries there's actually like a tv show that was like uh what was that called about the sackler family yes dope chick very good show yes it was sickening to watch actually i can i don't have the stomach for some of that stuff like my wife could watch it but like if it started

getting too much i'd have to go upstairs and do something else but that would be it's amazing you can't watch that of all people i think exposing like that's the other thing is i want to start tackling more exposing massive problems like because this is the thing like it's so easy the local crack dealer off the block does something he gets 10 years the guy running the multi-billion dollar ponzi scheme gets six months in community service but he stole billions of dollars the crack guy maybe had like a tens of thousands worth of impact on the economy this guy had billions right so like the justice system is really fucked up where it's like you can buy your way out of things and like why is a white collar crime so much less worse

than some of these other crimes i don't know it's just um here's a here's a radical idea i got let me explain it before i get jumped on right away but i want i think it'd be interesting to run a private prison but here's what would make it different okay it would be like a prison that you can apply to so i think it would be like a trade school so i want prisoners from all around the country to apply to this prison and we'll pick the best, the guys that want to work hard, the guys that want to learn, the guys that have good behavior, bring them into the prison. It's going to be a different structure. Maybe we have our own community garden where they're eating good food. Finally, we have a nice kitchen, but, and they're helping build all this too. Um, but then we have electricians, plumbers, HVAC, because a lot of our contractors are aging out of the game.

We need younger guys to take over. And also, it's a tremendous business to be in. And if you are an inmate, chances are you're good at taking risks. Entrepreneurship is a risk. So teach these guys a skill. One of my best friends in the world, Rob Banks, when he's in his 20s, now he's a millionaire running a construction business. I know these guys are out there. And also, let them exercise. let them enjoy themselves like let them actually

be happy in prison but they could learn they work and then when they leave this is how you fund it maybe let's say 10 of their first five-year salary comes back to the prison maybe that's a way to self-fund it that's interesting and then all of a sudden you're sending out an army of guys that are like they're capable they're strong they're confident they're ready to take risks and they're out there running businesses that are extremely essential and it's self-funded that's the first time i've heard the words private and prison next to each other and it's not the worst idea ever i know that's why i have to be like hold on one second i'm not a nazi you know i mean that's you know i always be like, hold on one second. I'm not a Nazi. I mean, that's, you know, I always joke like the Department of Correction doesn't do a lot of correcting. You know, these guys, they're set up to fail.

It's like you're supposed to pay your debt to society. And then once it's paid, like you're supposed to be able to go out and prove yourself or whatever. But this stuff follows them around forever and they can't do anything. And so our recidivism rate is crazy. And it's like you look at these other countries. People to cite sometimes as a joke like sweden and shit but i'm like look the number one penalty you get with prison is your freedoms taken away which is a crazy it's a crazy punishment you can't go to you see your family you can't go to see your friends you can't go to a cage my dog doesn't even sleep in a cage

that's right so i'm not saying you make it look like a five-star fucking hilton hotel but i don't have a problem with the idea of making prisons look a lot better and giving them resources to actually do things where they feel useful because men need purpose and right now a lot of those guys in prison are listless like A lot of it is just playing cards, doing anything. I know guys in prison that would just do different drugs, just get their mind in a different place. They'd sneak it, smuggle an LSD, and do it in the yard just so they could be out of there for a few minutes. So why not give them something to do? And also, to me, food is really important.

So these guys are eating dog shit all the time. And I know I'm not saying filet mignon for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You murder 10 people. But it should, like, why can't they work a community guard in the prison? That self, maybe make a prison more self-sustaining where, and they get to learn different skills. Now I know how to garden when I get out. Now I know how to fix a plug, an outlet. Now I know how to do the books of an accounting firm. Like, now I know how to do a plug an outlet now i know how to do the books of an accounting firm like now i

know how to do my own taxes like who knows what it is but with how much i think it's like 60 to 90 000 per year to house a person in a shithole i think that's right yeah you would think in that neighborhood i mean harvard is even that expensive harvard isn't 90 000 a year so like bro there are guys who will commit crimes just to go back there so they have a roof over their head yeah that happens i don't know did i tell the story about why i told the story about the fentanyl dealer why he was out in the streets he got kicked out of his home right yes you did the 13 year old so yeah like there are guys that have like lived really hard lives really tough lives really difficult lives but they still have a lot

of talent like one of my other guys guys in Milwaukee had a basketball scholarship, got popped for selling some shit. And now he's like a real estate mogul. He's an amazing dad. He's a born again Christian. He's got a lot of properties. He's wheeling and dealing. And he got me into my first property. And I've gotten more sense from him. And he's just a guy that's always, every time I call him on the phone, Bendel, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? He always puts encouragement into me.

And he's another guy. That's awesome. I ran this program for kids at a middle school. It was eighth grade boys. We'd meet every Tuesday for 15 weeks and did an entrepreneurship program. An hour before school started, we'd go meet and do that. And at the end of the day, you got to pitch. And the top three guys had pitch money

and Bendel was one of the judges. And when he spoke to the kids, like it's one thing when I speak to the kids because it's like, oh, they know me from YouTube, but I can tell them certain things, but it's not as relevant

from like a guy that has tattoos on the side of his face and here is telling him that like I used to be here and then he's almost in tears explaining his story and moving the kids. So anyways, I'm about about moving the youth i'm about boiling my own pot i know

it's getting late i don't want to take up yeah no 100 this has been an amazing conversation we're gonna have to have you back for sure next time in new york for sure you're doing awesome stuff but my other question for you was what's next obviously you're doing a lot of different projects you're continuing to up the content the shit we were looking at outside is incredible but like what do you want this in an ideal world you know even just a year or two from now what do you want this to turn into when everything's said and done i want to be one of the best known as the best documentary maker of my era there's guys like louis thoreau and ross camp that dominated their area era i want

to be the guy that high school teachers can say hey my kids this is how we showed them certain stuff that's going on in the country watch the tommy g video um i want to keep building a really solid team and also diving into places i've never been so this week should be the first week i ever go to a one percenter motorcycle club i'm gonna go to pine ridge reservation in south dakota in april i just want to keep exploring new lives like new lives. It's hard to get Amish people on camera. It's against religion. I want to crack that code. So I'm always looking at- There's a lot of Amish people, like 60 miles west of here or whatever. Pennsylvania is perfect for that. I just want to keep getting into new terrain,

new territory, and keep making these things better. We're getting good. We have the formula down, but there's still a lot of ground to cover. Any craft you're in is like a staircase that never stops spiraling up. That's right. So we have a lot of work to do, a lot of ground to cover. But the momentum's here. We're feeling good. We're feeling a lot of love.

People are just inviting us into their life at great risk to themselves a lot of the time. There are people that invite me in that it's a leap of faith because I know how I'm going to be. I know I'm going to be fair, and I'm going to show them the final copy so they can tell me about it. But it's a leap of faith. And I want to, as we keep building the portfolio, keep getting more access and keep showing people how other people in the country live. Yeah, man. And obviously, you've demonstrated that you've earned all that trust from those people to this point, doing a great job. So I hope you keep doing it. I hope some of the ideas you talked about today that you'd like to see happen actually do as well.

And I want to hear about them. If a billionaire out there wants to help me start a private prison for good, email me at TommyGMcGee123. Come on, George Soros. Give him one. Yeah. email me at TommyGMagee123.com. Come on, George Soros, give him one. Yeah, and also, guys, hey, for all the people listening to this podcast, a lot of my, almost all my leads are inbound leads. So if there's something, a community, people that are interesting, subculture, something dangerous,

email me at TommyGMagee123.com or DM me at TommyGMagee, and Magee is M-C-G-E-E. That's my middle name. Shout out to my grandpa. That's how my leads come in. love to work with you one day Julian thanks for having me thank you so much we will put the link to your youtube down in the description below as well as your instagram so go subscribe and follow over there and until next time brother see you next time in New York all right everybody else you know what it is give it a thought get back to me peace thank you guys for watching the

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