just a little shady - A Trip Down Memory Lane | Ep. 22

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome back to the podcast. This week's episode is going to be a little different and we're going to take a trip down memory lane. And in the wake of all the talk of the TikTok ban and everything that's been going on, we thought we should just take a look back. Let's go through the most popular apps of our time, their best features, and also what happened to them. Yes, where did they go? Where are they now? Gone like the wind. Some of them and some of them aren't. So let's go through starting with one of the most classic apps I think of our time, Vine. And I hated Vine. Did you? I hated Vine. I was not a Vine girl. I think I made a few Vines when it first came out, but the longer it lived, which it
Starting point is 00:00:52 didn't span a long lifetime, I just didn't enjoy it. Really? It annoyed me sometimes. Mainly because, and this is the thing, my boyfriend at the time, my high school boyfriend, would scroll Vine. He loved Vine, I think, more than anyone I've known. And the videos, like, since they were only six seconds long, would repeat so many times on a loop that I get overstimulated very easily. It would be my last straw at some points because it would play so many times and I would start to get overstimulated. I kind of feel that I never really was on Vine. Actually, I don't even think I had the app.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I just would see the vines. And I want to say it was like Twitter, maybe or something at the time where people would repost them. That makes and that was where I got all of the content. Yeah. Kind of like how we have used TikTok for to see all these clips of everything else. That's kind of the way that Vine was for me. I will say, though, for whatever reason, and maybe it is because the Vines were six
Starting point is 00:02:00 seconds and they would play on loops, some of the vines are so deeply ingrained in my memory that I can't say some things without thinking of vines. And I also experienced that despite not liking the app, I feel like there were some culturally significant moments that I don't even fully remember that they're from Vine until somebody says, oh yeah, that was that was a vine or reference it as a vine. It just feels like something that I've always known deep in my soul, which is so alarming. But so actually Twitter did buy Vine in 2012 and then shut Vine down January 17th of
Starting point is 00:02:41 2017, which is eight years ago, almost to the day that they're talking about banning TikTok. So I don't know what's going on with, with the, with the timing and the January thing, but apparently that's when a lot of apps go to die and it's happening, you know, now and also that's what happened with Vine. So they were struggling to grow the user database because. That makes sense. People were more so leaving than going to it. There was also not really many ways for people to make money on the app. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I don't ever remember Vines becoming monetized or how could you for six seconds? Yes, it was almost too short. That's why I think TikTok has done so well because it can be as short as you want or as long as you want. Yes, so you have that variation there. But also I feel like Vine was so popular in the early ages of social media that I think almost all social medias in general were just starting to figure out that monetization piece. So I mean, I know this was eight years ago,
Starting point is 00:03:47 but this feels like a lifetime ago that Vine existed. I agree. For some reason, I feel like we were so young. We were, we were in high school. But I think for us, yeah, we weren't using it after a certain point. Like we didn't use it up until it was gone. And I think that's the thing with a lot of these apps.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And if you're our age, you're gonna feel the same way. It's like, when you hear the shutdown dates of some of these, you're like, what? Like it was way sooner. 2014, 2015 that it shut down. I agree, but I think that just cause for us, that's when we stopped using it. And then they were also feeling to support the top creators
Starting point is 00:04:25 who are making it successful because I also feel like Vine was kind of the first place where creators got like absolutely huge this is also true I feel like Vine was a big launching pad for a lot of youtubers yeah for sure well because they didn't really know like where to go and what to do. And so they took their followings to YouTube and kind of started doing long form content and actually making money on YouTube. And then probably a lot of them probably found their way to TikTok after that.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Oh, for sure. And so actually the new Twitter owner is talking about reviving Vine. So Twitter was one who originally owned Vine. I actually did not know this. And yeah so he's talking about using it as a way to make Twitter more profitable and to compete with other social media platforms doing video form and he did a poll and apparently 70% of people wanted Vine to be brought back. You know who's probably one of apparently 70% of people wanted vine to be brought back
Starting point is 00:05:32 You know who's probably one of that 70% is my boyfriend Brian. I think you're gonna see your boyfriend from high school He probably is but Brian also For as little social media as he's on. Apparently loved Vine back in the day. Because sometimes I'll see things on TikTok and he'll be like, oh, that's from Vine. And I won't know it. But apparently he knows Vine very well. Interesting. Maybe I have a type.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yeah, Vine lovers is your type. I feel like we need to go through some of the most iconic Vines. the one that you will know and love Uh-huh is the and they were roommates. I know that was a great one iconic Another one is the road work ahead. Yeah, I sure hope it does Bro, I don't know that. Oh my gosh, but then again, I was so removed from it. That makes sense. That one would always crack me up. How about the one with the potato flying around the fan?
Starting point is 00:06:31 A potato flew around my room before. See, you were not in the lore. This one, I know this one I love and I say this. Look at all those chickens. I say that quite regularly and like I think my vocabulary I was gonna say I think that's one of the ones that's so deeply ingrained in my brain that I don't even think of it as a vine I don't either I told you if I had a million dollars sitting in front of me and I say
Starting point is 00:06:59 look at all them chicken like where did that come from? And I had to say Vine or something else. I'd probably say something else. Same, that one is a classic. Even the and they were roommates, I have to admit. You thought it was TikTok? No, I didn't think it was TikTok, but like that has, I feel like that saying has been around obviously since Vine existed.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And it took me a couple years before I could figure, I was like, where the fuck is this coming from? Like I could not figure out the reference and it bugs the shit out of me when I can't figure out what somebody's referencing. I just like to be in the loop in the know. Yeah, that was one. And then there was also like the compliation
Starting point is 00:07:42 of the guy that would always say, damn Daniel. That was the biggest one I damn didn't mean that that Took them to Ellen Which is so which yeah, like that's what I mean is I feel like Vine was the first time we're like Actually creators got so popular that it took them to other platforms and Heights were like it wasn't You know, it wasn't happening like that before.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Wasn't there the guy from Target too? Was that Von Vine? Alex from Target? Did you know Alex from Target? Was that a Vine? I wanna say that was TikTok, but I don't know. No, no. Comment if you know.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Alex from Target went on Ellen. You know, TikTok was after Ellen's time, I think. No. Really? Ellen just ended. You guys, we're not, we're not versed in the TV. We don't know TV, okay? We're talking about the apps.
Starting point is 00:08:34 No, we truly don't know TV. We are so chronically online, and it's not our fault because there's been all these amazing apps since we've gotten access to phones. It's all we know. It's all we know I'm sorry Vine came and went it may supposedly have a resurgence we shall see but those are the classic vines and speaking of Elon Musk talking about
Starting point is 00:08:57 reviving vine the formerly known Twitter kind of died in its own way as well when he took it over and named it X and I was thinking about this so I was really never a Twitter user oh my gosh I used to love Twitter I was like a spectator I treat a lot of social media the same way especially especially like when I was younger I would always put myself on private I would kind of just like you were either lurking in the shadows and so this was one of them where like I would like retweet or respond to people's stuff or something But like I would never actually be the author
Starting point is 00:09:32 You know, I was like just there so liking stuff. Um, just moving in silence Yeah, it's a good place to be. I treated Twitter like a diary Did you and I would use it as method of like communication. Like I remember I got it, I think before it became super mainstream. I remember myself and one of our friends, we would use it and we would tweet back and forth, just like literal life updates and like conversations and as small as like at Reinforced Cafe. I would do that with Facebook. But it was like minute by minute updates, like more so than.
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Starting point is 00:11:28 You deserve quality care from someone who cares. Thank you to Rula for sponsoring today's episode. Well now, it's so dangerous. The main thing with Twitter at the time was like the retweets, the quote tweets, the tweets. And now they're not tweets, they're called post reposts and quote posts. I think that's so stupid because everyone still refers to it as Twitter and tweets. And no one's ever going to call it X.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah, it's a very like weird, hard change. And like, because the people who probably are still the people who are using it now are Probably people who have been there since the beginning like they're not gonna change We're creatures of habit here. If you're gonna keep an app around don't change the name. It's like one like Notable buildings change the name. You'll never call it the new name No, it's always the old name and that's just how it is. You know who else is is on the Twitter? Brian. That's like his only form of social media that he has now. Why am I not shocked? He doesn't tweet. I don't think he's ever
Starting point is 00:12:33 made a tweet in his life but he's like a you. He's a lurker. Yeah that's how I... Yeah. And he'll send me things that I've seen on TikTok weeks ago and I think he thinks he's doing something. I haven't broke it to him yet. Like'm like. Like he thinks he's showing you something. That's like when Evan will send me a reel and I'm like, bro, I saw this. I know. So long ago. You're ahead of the curve.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But, so, he got Twitter in 2022 for 44 billion. Wow. Rebranded it as X in July of 2023. Um, and there's like new features, all this stuff and people, I feel like people weren't necessarily happy with it. But it sounds like he is aware of that because now he's supposedly thinking about reviving things like fine to kind of try to bring it back. But actually just last week as of January 15th, the SEC is actually suing him for alleging
Starting point is 00:13:30 that he misled shareholders about his purchases in 2022, and alleges that he violated several federal security laws enabling him to purchase shares of Twitter at artificially low prices right before his takeover knowing that the stock was gonna rise when he bought it. Damn. So we'll see how that plays out. That was a lot of big words. I kind of sometimes I follow that stuff. I didn't follow a lot of what you just said. Well, it's like people who do stock trading.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Will understand. Yeah, well, not you. Well, if you stock trade, you can't. So he broke the law. Yeah, he basically he had insider information that the stock was going to rise. You can't trade insider information. And you can't use that to do stuff, which I don't know how that.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I know that is wrong and you can't do it. They would have to prove that, which I feel like would be difficult, but. Right, with what evidence? We'll find out and maybe we'll have an update. But for now, that is kind of where Twitter stands today. It is still around, it's just not the same Twitter that we used to know and apparently love,
Starting point is 00:14:49 like a diary back in the day. I'm not tweeting about Rainforest Cafe anymore. You could easily be though, considering we literally were just there. And I would like to go back. If I could go back right now, I would. I've been thinking about a grilled cheese quite deeply. You have problems. For the last hour or so. There's so many places to get a grilled cheese besides that
Starting point is 00:15:08 Well, that's just what I'm thinking of but like if I went to Reinforce Cafe right now, what would I have maybe a cheeseburger? Maybe I know not good Groundbreaking news we all need to hear Okay, so let's get into another so I I really did not use Twitter I was just a spectator but on the other hand, I feel like my space was kind of my shit my space You I was on their coding, you know out there coding and running shit truthfully Okay, so like my thing was still in private but I spent a lot of time curating that page and I feel like
Starting point is 00:15:42 It was the first time you were like curating something to like- I loved it, to be aesthetic. That was the first step in us all developing what our future aesthetics would be. Correct. Mine was very moody. I fear mine was as well. I think we all were moody teenagers
Starting point is 00:15:59 and I think that's why I also like that we're not explicitly talking about this today but I feel like it's very similar in nature. Tumblr. I was never really on Tumblr. No. I was a Tumblr girl. I love Tumblr.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And it was similar where you could kind of curate a vibe, not as in depth as you could with MySpace. But I wish more than anything I could take like a scroll of what, like the last time I logged off of MySpace, I wanna know how I left it. I wanna see a time capsule of exactly how it looked. We're getting there because technically you still could. So MySpace used to be known for the top friends, the songs on your profile, the custom background,
Starting point is 00:16:41 coding on your page to make it look good, changing your fonts and the colors. It was honestly too, I feel like maybe this is on the negative side of things. I think Myspace was the first time catfishing became a thing. It was and I feel like that was fairly alarming to our parents generation because I feel like they very much so were nervous about letting us get get my spaces to begin with that was kind of scary And then it was don't get catfish like not everyone is who they say in line is good life lessons to learn But I think that was where it began. I
Starting point is 00:17:18 Do feel it was but I feel like our experience with that kind of prepared us and like I feel like our experience with that kind of prepared us and like cautioned us when we were going forward on all these other apps as we got older. But I feel like the generation below us didn't have that like scare tactic of like, oh, this could happen to you. Let's take a quick break to thank the sponsor of today's episode, Shopify.
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Starting point is 00:18:51 a lack of information online, so it's like, be cautious, you don't know who these people are, you're never gonna know. They could be not who they say they are. Now it's like the opposite mentality of like, there's so much information online, if they're not who they say they are, I'll find out, I'll know who they are, like all this stuff. And so it's like the opposite, but like, there's so much information online. If they're not who they say they are, I'll find out.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I'll know who they are, like all this stuff. And so it's like the opposite. But that really was. And then there was also this whole generation of celebrities who got famous on my space. And honestly, there's some that I didn't even realize. And maybe you guys won't know either. Harry Styles, my space page was public until 2017.
Starting point is 00:19:25 That's crazy. Had photos of him as a kid. The Arctic Monkeys, the band got their big break on MySpace. Lily Allen found music success on MySpace. Calvin Harris. Owl City, Sean Kingston, Adele. I had no idea. I didn't either, but I do, I feel like I can vaguely remember,
Starting point is 00:19:46 and this is mainly from my many times of watching Gossip Girl, that MySpace was rooted in a way in music and sharing music. And it still is, which I feel like for our generation, that's not how we necessarily used it. No. But I feel like it was like, right after us, it became more that's what it was. But that's actually now, mainly what my space is used for, it still does exist. Okay, it still does exist, and you can still access
Starting point is 00:20:24 it. And so I went and kind of looked, it still does exist and you can still access it and so I went and kind of looked it was more so giving Vibes of like a website for like news and stuff when I just looked at the main page I didn't try to sign in because there's no chance I remember Anything from my maybe remember my email I use but I could not even begin to guess what my password would have been same Well, they ended up Changing and getting sold and kind of I would not shutting down, but in a way shutting down They were having security issues in 2016 400 million passwords were
Starting point is 00:20:59 compromised which maybe so you wouldn't even be able to get in anyways because You don't have a password and in 2019 a server migration deleted 12 years worth of content. That's so messed up So you might not even have one. I should have taken screenshots while I have chance I don't even know if we knew how to screen. I don't even know if you could screenshot back exactly There was also Facebook was coming up and they had fewer ads at the time. So people were migrating there.
Starting point is 00:21:28 We definitely, I feel like that was what we, our generation did. You had like MySpace for a couple little seconds and then you went to Facebook. Yeah, I think we only used MySpace in like middle school. And then I feel like as we got to high school, that was when Facebook was starting to hit its peak. I agree. Even Facebook, I feel like I wasn't fully like
Starting point is 00:21:48 involved in. Facebook was something that of mine would always get hacked because like, yeah, because it would always be on private and then people would hack it and like, I don't know what at the time, like, I would never really care because I again, I wasn't fully invested in it. I was right. You a spectator. So I was like, lurking. Yeahking yeah and like it was never really fully worth it to me like make a new page and try to post all this stuff again so I was just like I don't really care and I stopped using Facebook too yeah so that's kind of just
Starting point is 00:22:16 how that went for me but a lot of people left my space for that the site became cluttered is what some people saying. It's just so sad. Why did we leave so soon? Truly. And also they're saying that there's a lot of advertising, which is wild to me because personally, I never saw any advertising on there. But again, maybe that was like right after we had left. It probably was. It's just sad to think we had such a great thing.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And if we would have kept up with it, where would it be today? Like if it continued to evolve and. Yeah. Like what would my space look like on a mobile phone? I don't know, because I never use my mobile phone. Facebook, I feel like we got we got the Facebook app, but never my space app. Yeah, I I'm not exactly sure. Yeah. Well, if you if you go ahead and sign up now, you can find out. But I think it is mostly like music stuff. It appears. I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:23:17 A more short lived app that came and went and arguably one of the worst was Ask FM, which honestly, I think I had for like two seconds. Again, I never like answered, like I would just look and see what people were doing. People got into big trouble on that app. No, this app was toxic. You were able to post anonymous questions and over 30 million questions and answers
Starting point is 00:23:43 were being created every day at its peak. Users could also create polls and shout outs that targeted nearby users which I feel like is so dangerous. So basically you could sign up or use an existing social media account, ask questions anonymously and respond with text or video and then you can earn Ask coins. I don't remember coins or videos on that. Yeah I think it kind of died for us before it got to that point. Yeah. But supposedly in 2017 Ask FM had 215 million registered users and was the world's largest Q&A network in 2017, which again, does not feel long ago enough in my mind. No, it feels like it was way longer than 2017.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But I feel like we use this like early years in high school. Like if I had to guess when Facebook dot or when not when Facebook when Ask FM died, I would say 2012. That's what I was gonna say. And I feel like for us it did. Yes. For other people like us, it was like more later on. And maybe it was a generation below us that we're kind of getting into it. That could have been it. Before we get back to the episode, let's take a moment to thank the sponsor of today's episode, Rocket Money. It's still just the beginning of 2025, and the new year is the perfect time to get organized, set goals and prioritize wellness, including your financial wellness. Thanks to Rocket Money, that's one goal you can count on to be achievable on your resolution list.
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Starting point is 00:26:28 But I also found it interesting because yik yak which was a similar app very similar ended in 2017 And that to me was later than ask FM however I'm wondering if like since that ended then people kind of took to ask FM to do it because no it was similar to that it was anonymous messaging app for college campuses and it was notorious for cyberbullying but it was also really like a weird scenario because you could only con be connected contact with people who were near you,
Starting point is 00:27:05 like on your same college campus, which then made the posting and anonymous comments feel very real and targeted. Because they were. Because sometimes you could be in a class with somebody that's posting about you or your teacher or whatever. I can vividly remember multiple yik yaks. Mainly my freshman year of college, then I feel like I never really looked at it,
Starting point is 00:27:28 but people compared the girls in our sorority to a brand of pencils. Oh. Yeah, which was weird. Yeah, but like sticks out of my memory. And then also, because I joined a sorority my freshman year, also, because I joined us already my freshman year, somebody, because I got a screenshot of this in our like
Starting point is 00:27:49 pledge class group message. So it was like I saw one of the new members in Zeta pick up Biori no strip, like the little poor strips at the store. So I tried them and they worked great. Thanks Zeta. Crazy. Like just like crazy. I mean, at least that one was positive. But yeah, I feel like most of the ones that I tried them and they worked great. Thanks Zayda. Crazy, like just like crazy. I mean at least that one was positive,
Starting point is 00:28:07 but yeah I feel like most of the ones that I would see would be like super negative. They'd be like making fun of professors, making fun of kids in class. Oh that's so sad. Like they were just not ever good, but it was very similar to Ask FM because it was anonymous. And so with both of those apps you found cyber bullying,
Starting point is 00:28:23 you found kids being harassed, and just not being used for proper things. So the anonymous forums just never end well. People get like, people are already mean enough in the comment section. You don't need to add another layer of anonymity. Is that right? Did I use that word right?
Starting point is 00:28:47 I think so. Okay. You don't need to add an extra layer of that. But it did remind me of the little in defining emo's like, ananana, ananana. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:58 That's currently us. But that app I was never really into, same with the Ikea, like I would download it and be like, oh what's going on? And then I immediately was like, I hate this, I'm out. And I feel like that's obviously why they both had pretty short lives.
Starting point is 00:29:14 But on a more positive note, and arguably the first social media we ever used. And the best social media. Truly, I swear you guys a im messenger The the cultural significance the Everything about it such a culturally. I mean hey hi. What's up? Nothing much. What's up with you? Nothing much cool. Who do you like and
Starting point is 00:29:43 That that that right there really I will say that the main purpose I think of AIM at the time was to find out who liked who. And then to become boyfriend girlfriend. But like never talk in person. Yep. And then break up. I lived that. And the same. We all lived that.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And that was what it was for however it was the first time that we were able to communicate with our peers without a home from home without calling on the phone that is actually so true and it was very formative like that was the foundation of our social media experience and you could create your away message and you did have like a little bio It was almost like a mini myspace Where you could put like right different quotes different designs? You couldn't do as much with it
Starting point is 00:30:37 But like I can hear the noises of like people logging off or going away and the little messages back and forth And that's a high I'll be chasing for the rest of my life. I feel like if we can, we'll put those sounds in at the end of the episode. I hope so. Just as a farewell ending the episode because I feel the same way, like the door opening or the door closing
Starting point is 00:30:59 and then you'd like run to go see who it was. I can vividly remember being on AIM messaging people and having like high school musical too on in the background and eating Cheez-Its. And that just sounds like so nostalgic, so peaceful. Well, it was like middle school for us. And it was actually, it was like the end of elementary school. And then like a little bit through middle school.
Starting point is 00:31:24 But I feel like it was a time where it was it was the first time that like guys and girls were interacting outside of school. It really was. And so that's why like for all of us we like it was like the first time we were like interacting outside of school. Yes and really I we didn't have that many conversations with like guys even of school. Because. Yes, and really, we didn't have that many conversations with like guys even at school. Like we were young.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Right, because you're so young and like, and I feel our generation was kind of like the first to experience that. Because before that like you were just either calling on the phone or you had nothing. You were just school and like. School and then you were home. Home.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And then if you saw them maybe at like an actor school, after school activity. Right, this was the first time. I also always would go on that thing, iconator.com, and you could pick your little icon in the corner and depending what tragedy I thought I was going through at the time with or who I liked or whatever, you know, you would like search for the perfect icon
Starting point is 00:32:29 and they would have like little sayings too. And they're all in Comic Sans. And I swear to, when I think of AIM, I think of Comic Sans. And why was that like the choice of font for everyone? It was the cutest font you could get. I don't think we had as many fonts back then as we do now Truly like that is then it became century gothic True like people I mean yeah would get wild with it
Starting point is 00:32:56 But like I feel like that is what I think of when I think of AI am early And also like we've talked about this on the podcast before but the hidden messages in the way you put them like in the white font so it would blend in with the screen and you'd have to like highlight somebody's whole away message. Yeah, but like we also all knew it so we acted like we were writing secret messages. But you knew everyone could see it. You knew everyone was going to highlight it to see what you wrote. 100% or do you remember you could code and it was like some way you could put like at,
Starting point is 00:33:26 like username and then whoever was looking at it, it would appear as like their username. Or you could do it with the dates, times, and I think usernames. Also, AIM was a little bit of a added to its time because there were components of AI there. Do you remember like movie phone? There was some AI messenger and you could like message it and tell you
Starting point is 00:33:49 all the new movies that were coming out that week. No. Yeah, it was sick. Why don't I remember that? But what was crazy to me is when I was looking up, like what happened to AIM? Yeah, what all that? Well, first of all, it apparently started in 1997. Shut up. That's what it says online.
Starting point is 00:34:11 But it didn't become popular until like the late 90s, early 2000s. And it ended up being shut down because it was too expensive to run for like the amount of remaining users. And also there was like Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp. Oh, way. So it ended in December 2017. But AOL is still around and you can still access your AOL email.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And some people actually pay for a subscription that provides tax support and like identity theft services They don't do dial-up internet anymore um But they are still technically around so no way. Yeah, I feel like with all of these apps We talked about this last week how it's like We kind of chose when these apps came and went.
Starting point is 00:35:06 100%. It was kind of just like we would get over them. It was onto the next thing and you would migrate to something new and then there would be the next best thing and you would leave the old one in the dust. But when it comes to TikTok, it's at its peak right now. We're not ready to part with it. Right. Like we're not choosing it. So I think that's why people are having such a to part with it. Right, like we're not choosing it. So I think that's why people are having such a hard time with it. If there was something that was already invented that.
Starting point is 00:35:30 That was newer, that people were starting to gain interest in, it hasn't fully been out for too long, but that's just not the case right now. And no one's satisfied with just Instagram and Facebook. No, well, honestly too, because for the same reason, a lot of these apps that we talked about, unsatisfied with just Instagram and Facebook. Well, honestly too, because for the same reason, a lot of these apps that we talked about didn't make it, like ads and too many ads and whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:54 It's like, that's kind of what those places have turned into, especially like, I don't know about you, but even when I scroll on Facebook or scroll on Instagram, it's all just like, it's either ads or like suggested users that I don't follow. Right. And I've seen a lot of people with this complaint. It's like as soon as it stopped being like chronological order posts from people you actually followed, it kind of lost its. No, I miss being able to see you're all caught up at the bottom of the
Starting point is 00:36:19 Instagram because I would scroll until okay, that's the bottom of it. And granted it didn't happen every time but I couldn't tell you the last I don't okay, that's the bottom of it. And granted, it didn't happen every time, but I couldn't tell you the last, I don't even think that's possible to get to that point on Instagram anymore. Well, no, because it's not just the people you follow. And it was the same thing, like TikTok has its own, it has a for you page, but then it has the page
Starting point is 00:36:37 of just the people you follow that you can scroll through their stuff. And that's how like Instagram used to be. There was the explore page and then there was and they should have kept it separate. And I think that people, if they went back to that, it would be such a big win and they would get so many users back on the Instagram bandwagon.
Starting point is 00:36:57 But right now people are just fed up with it. And I guess that's kind of the common denominator in all the downfalls to your point. It's the ads. Yeah, truly. And I feel like it's, even though TikTok still has that, there's so much like separation and control of what you see still that people don't mind them
Starting point is 00:37:23 as much I feel. No. Whereas like on these other apps, like it almost feels like your whole algorithm, everything you see is not in your control. And so it's just like, what am I doing here? Right. With TikTok, there's enough great content with like slivers of ads like mixed in that it doesn't bother you. But when it just feels like you're getting pushed only ads in no good content
Starting point is 00:37:47 It's annoying. Yeah, I'll be interested to see what does come next obviously even if the with or without the ban Something was bound to get created next that is going right the next best thing next thing. And it's just a matter of time on what that thing is. Yeah. And we will be there. We will be ready. We'll be waiting. But hopefully this brought some nostalgia back to you guys.
Starting point is 00:38:16 When I was going through all these, I was like, wow. I know. I feel like we have gone through so many different. We've lived a lot of lives. Yeah. And it's funny too, because the culture on all of these apps have been so different. But I loved it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I'm here for what's next. And I hope this brought some nostalgia to you guys. On the bonus content, we're actually going to be going through some of our favorite recent TikTok videos reacting, having some laughs. So if you wanna see that, make sure you join the Patreon bonus content. But for now, we'll see you guys in the next one.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Bye everyone. Bye.

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