Just Trish - Addressing Our Drama With Mikayla Nogueira & Investigating the White Lotus Feud

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

Sometimes we talk about hot topics, but today we ARE the hot topic after Mikayla Nogueira claps back about our takes on her dramatic life update video. Plus, we check into 'The White Lotus' to investigate the casts' feud rumors. And honorary crew member, TikTok sensation Harry Daniels, is back to spill on his plans of singing "I Love You Jesus" to the pope.  💖JUST TRISH MERCH!💖 https://justtrish.com Sponsor Just Trish: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/just-trish-podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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to speak to an advisor free of charge. We were trying to get our pregnancy announcement sponsored by Clearblue. Oh my God. They were like considering it like back and forth for so long. And because they did follow each other, now they don't follow each other. Yes. And the blocking means because her comments don't appear on his posts.

Yes. He really does relentlessly go after Mikaela for every little thing. And that's why she's like, and anyone who makes a video about this and blah, blah, blah, like, you know, F you, whatever. Hello, and welcome back to the Just Trish Podcast. Guys, it's Viva Las Vegas week. We're going to Vegas this week, and I can confirm we have a very special guest coming this week who's actually performing with me. We're performing a song.

Usually I have guests. They come on stage. We do a little key, but there is a performance special guest coming. So if you're in Vegas this week, April 12th, if you're skipping Coachella, come see Trish Chella. We're going to be performing at the Cosmo. And I'm very excited. It's going to be a Vegas extravaganza.

And then next week we will be at the Radio City Music Hall in New York. I've been practicing my Empire State of Mind. And it's pretty good. I even do the Jay-Z rap. And it's pretty amazing. My billboards are in New York. So I'll be doing photo shoots around New York. I've been practicing my Empire State of Mind. And it's pretty good. I even do the Jay-Z rap. And it's pretty amazing. My billboards are in New York. So I'll be doing photo shoots around New York. I'm going to do the hot dog Britney pose.

I got a hot dog. A bling hot dog. I'm not going to even tell Moses how much it is. There's like a bling hot dog at Harrods. If you know, you know. It's Judith Lieber. So if you know, you know. And I don't even like hot dogs.

But it goes so well with the photo shoot. And we're doing a show there. So it's kind of like a business expense is what I know. And I don't even like hot dogs. But it goes so well with the photo shoot. And we're doing a show there. So it's kind of like a business expense is what I think. And kind of reusable. Like 4th of July, you can, you know, do like a hot dog photo shoot. Like a Jennifer Coolidge kind of vibe. Oh, God. Okay.

I'm like, I didn't know if we celebrated 4th of July anymore. But. I think everyone likes hot dogs, though. Not me. Who doesn't love a good dog? I think I do. I've been kind of craving a Costco hot dog, weirdly. Oh, Costco food.

We should do a Costco food Monday. I do love Costco these days. Their pizza is actually so good. Mm-hmm. Reasonable. I like that. We're economical. Yeah.

Yeah. And then we'll be in Boston. New York is April 15th. We'll be in Boston April 16th at the Wang Theater. Sold out. Been sold out. We still have tickets left for Vegas and New York, but itth. We'll be in Boston April 16th at the Wang Theater. Sold out. Been sold out. We still have tickets left for Vegas and New York, but it's been sold out at the Boston show.

And we are doing our pro shot that day. So it's going to be really epic. We're going to have 20 cameras filming. It's going to be the heiress to our releasing in theaters this year. In 3D. In 3D. IMAX. Oh, nice.

Honestly, I don't really know what we're doing with it. My agent's like, should we record it? And I was like, yeah. So I don't know what we're doing with it. My agent's like, should we record it? And I was like, yeah. So I don't know what we're doing with it. Maybe you'll see it. Maybe you won't. But get your tickets. We have new costumes, limited edition merch at each show, new songs at each show, special

guests confirmed for Vegas, still working on a New York one. Going to be a vibe. It's going to be a vibe. So that and also Patreon. Patreon.com slash just Trish. We love you over there. We are going – are we doing our trendy foods today? Yeah.

I'm so excited. I was talking about Minecraft yesterday. I'm not loving it. I was talking about Minecraft to everyone I could. I'm so – they better still have these Minecraft adult meals if they don't have it. Because they sell out quickly, these adult meals. So if they don't have it, I'm going to these adult meals so if they don't have it i'm gonna be so disappointed minecraft is a phenomenon right now and i think they have a special minecraft sauce or something right i'll try it i'll eat it all i don't care i don't even

like sauces and i'll eat it all we're gonna try the kardashian crumble was there one other thing we were supposed to try i feel like there was another kardashian thing no there was a third do you remember there was a third now i can't? There was a third. Now I can't remember. We're going to have to roll the tapes. Roll the tapes. Back, Jimmy. Let us know. Shout out, Jimmy. But anyways, patreon.com slash justration.

Shout out, Jimmy. Who actually probably could teach us Minecraft. We were talking about Callie learning it. Yes. But he seems to be well-versed in Minecraft. Yeah, you said he does like Minecraft. Oh, he does. Yeah, he was texting me about it.

Oh, why wasn't I in that group chat? He made an edit of you. He was like, I just spent two hours making this. And I was like, Jimmy, you were insane, but it was so worth it. I didn't even know what it meant. I just thought it was cute. And everyone loved it. Everyone gave it to me. They're like, this is amazing.

And I'm like, okay. It's literally so good. This is the one Britney Spears went to. Oh. It's really good. I know our audio listeners are really missing out on the Jimmy edit so if you're an audio listener also check out the video while you're at it two hours he spent two hours making this little a green screen Minecraft edit of Trisha and it was it was everything it really was give yourself a bonus in the invoice this month because that was so good

and I was like I saw it on Twitter and I saw it was gaining traction like oh my god send me then I saw it on his I was reposting his and I just I was gagged for it I don't really know what it meant but I love it yeah and I love that he did that so maybe we should do a Minecraft game with Jimmy next week well I won't be here next week but the week after that yeah love you Jimmy

he's just so sweet he's just he always like sends me stuff too like little jokes there was a joke in the last episode that no one caught i said something about justin yes he said that to me too he's like before he missed this and i was like how did i miss this i mean it's fine we talk so much and it's so funny but he's like just so you know i thought this part was funny i was like thanks jimmy we love him jimmy wetzel check him out everywhere he really is so, so good. Like, please never, ever quit because he's amazing.

I was just thinking about that. I'm like, if we didn't have him, I'm like, what would we do? We don't know what we would do. We don't know editors and have to find someone. And it just sounds crazy. But, yeah, how are you? You look cute. We're in our cozy era.

We're in our black sweatpants era today. Yeah, we are, huh? And what's your shirt? What's your dad? Oh, it was in the Ian Charms PR kit that they sent. I love Ian Charms. Honestly, it's nice getting a little PR here and there. I'm very, am I a Remy Jo Bader, I guess.

Whatever they send me, I'll wear, you know? Is this how she does? Does Remy Jo wear everything that's in the dress? Isn't that what you said? You were like, these are just the clothes that they sent me, you guys, when she was wearing. Yes. Oh, yeah. Is this how she does? Does Remy Joseph wear everything that's in the dress? Isn't that what you said? You were like, this is just the clothes that they sent me, you guys, when she was wearing. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. When she lost all the weight, people were like, wow, you only wear designer now.

I was like, this is just what's sent to me. That's very me. That's very Oscar energy these days. They should pay you, as our second Ian Charms mentioned. I hope you're getting paid for that. Well, I mean, you did ask. I guess I could just say, I don't know. Yeah, that's true.

That's true. That's true. Yeah, I love it, though. I look like L.A. or something else. I was like, just say, I don't know. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. Yeah, I love it, though. I look like L.A. or something else. I was like, ooh, what is that? You look cool in the denim jacket. How are you feeling? Everyone wants an update.

Everyone's like, Oscar's going through so much, and yet he shows up, and it's so true. And they all want to make sure you're okay. People say I don't ask enough, but I need to keep asking. I want to make sure. It really tickles me every time. Okay. Well, I want to make sure. I'm okay. I really lie. It really tickles me every time. Okay. Well, I want to make sure. I'm okay.

I really am. It was very nice. Everyone's comments and stuff is very sweet because I don't know. Maybe I'm just true chronically online, but I am always afraid like if I get vulnerable about like, you know, it's my dog. I was like, oh my God, there's going to be people like there's people dying the tariffs girl you know i thought in comparison you know it is uh small i guess but you know it is still people were very validating and like you know losing a pet is uh it is big it is traumatic so people care more about dogs i think than humans really

honestly i think you're right they're more sad if like something happens to a pet. That is true. Problematic but true. Yeah. Happens. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I'm doing better. Honestly, it was healing actually talking about it because I was like internalizing it a lot trying to get through.

But I think talking about it was very nice. So yeah, I really appreciate it. The support from everybody. Yeah. Your back's better? Getting better? Not really? Maybe on the healing journey, I think.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Part of the process. really? Maybe on the healing journey, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Part of the process. Yeah. Part of the healing journey process. Okay. Well, I'm glad.

And your sneakers, everything about you looks very cute today. Yes. And I got rest, so I think I feel good today, too. Yeah. We have a special guest later today in the episode. Harry Daniels is coming by. Yes. Our favorite. Honestly, a member of the team at this point.

Yeah, really. He really tries to get us the guests and never happens. But we love the effort. We love someone on the front lines, you know, trying at least. Always trying. Yeah, he's always supportive. Every time I'm in New York, he's always trying to come to the show. The Broadway show, we didn't really have any control over. I don't know if he came. Did he end up coming? I don't know.

We didn't have any control over those tickets, but this one, hopefully he'll want to come to Radio City. That'll be fun. He's a New York icon, a staple. And he's know if he came. Did he end up coming? I don't know. We didn't have any control over those tickets, but this one hopefully he'll want to come to Radio City. That'd be fun. He's a New York icon, a staple. And he's here in LA today. And Moses, is that an Amazon shirt over there? Yes. Love it. You should put a little Amazon link. Oh yeah. Hyperlink storefront.

What is it? Like like to? Yes. I love it. Actually, it's a really great shirt from all of them. It actually fits and it's soft really great shirt from all of them it actually fits and soft it's beautiful and so are you

what is that they're wearing over there this is our little axolotl we got him he's originally this is so crazy Build-A-Bear $44 for the stuffed animal $10 for the hoodie they resold it on Poshmark for $300 damn honestly $10 for the hoodie. They resold it on Poshmark for $300.

Damn. It would take, though. Honestly. And it was very, very, very limited edition. It is a collector's piece, I will say. I was gagged. Even before it went viral and I saw it and I looked right away to see if it was real, I was so gagged. And it was sold out so quickly. And I was just like, I need to need to have this.

And then when I saw that this was in a plastic and someone actually had it in their hands, it made me really excited. It is pretty cute. This is the little, it's like a little sea creature, an axolotl. Yeah. He lives in the ocean. Well, lake, but. A lake, okay.

And they're real or no? They are real. Okay. They look unreal. When you see them, you feel like. You seen it? How is this real? You seen an axolotl?

Yes. How many of them? In the lake or what? No, in video. In video. Yeah, like on TikTok. Oh, wow. They're not legal here, but they're legal other places.

Yeah, they are not legal in here and like two or three other states, I think. Why? Because in California, it's because they could be an invasive species if they breed with another salamander or something but um they are native to mexico but they are going extinct in mexico weirdly so they're really only um found in captivity or bred as pets so wow yeah a little fun animal fact so we're saving the animals if you buy an axolotl honestly yeah kind of because they are pretty much almost extinct. They only live in one lake in Mexico, but they are going extinct there. Where in Mexico?

I forget where. Gotta go find it. I don't know if this is a hot topic. It's a hot topic. The axolotls in Minecraft build a bear. It's true. Oscar's fave. Because they are only native to this one lake in mexico but um because the the

government introduced like a lot of different different fish into this lake um so the people could fish and eat those fish for those fish those fish are eating the axolotls and taking away their food so they became endangered and almost extinct in mexico so really the only found in captivity um so in this case captivity is good yeah because if they weren't bred as like a hobby for like a pet they would probably be like extinct so or close to extinction oh my god it's sad that animals go extinct that's so crazy i know just could be wiped out one day they're so cute cute too. They are very cute. I know.

Malibu really wanted this. I had to hide it until the show. I'll give it to her after. But I was like, she keeps looking. She keeps looking for it. She's like, where's the little dinosaur? And I was like, oh, I know. So the lake is called, like, it starts with XO.

I don't know how you read it, but Xochimiloco. Oh, yeah. That sounds familiar. And it's even on their money money the axolotl yeah because it's such an important part of their own culture yeah wow i had no idea that and our dr simi doll would be can't see but he's also part okay we love that yeah we love it do you notice our organized hallway i that was the first thing i noticed, you guys. As soon as I opened the door, damn, not a box. Not a box to be seen.

That was crazy. I give a lot of credit to my mom. Moses obviously helped too. But like my mom came over after the podcast. We were still out to lunch. We came back. My mom, when she hustles, she's like pushing boxes everywhere. She's in the garage.

She's just – she's so intense with it. And she really did do a lot of it. I was trying to like organize where his stuff needs to go but she was pushing boxes around, tearing them down. She was – she's a little beast when it comes to that kind of stuff. She loves organized. You know, like every time she comes to our house, she's always just like, I can do it. I can help Moses clean up the thing.

Like she really just always wants to like organize and clean. I don't know where – I did not get that but she loves that. You certainly didn't. I did not. I know. But – Is Callie – callie's pretty organized though right yeah they're super clean super organized they've always like cleaned after

themselves they're really good at like cleaning floors and toilets like all that stuff and it's just like never i didn't even know i think i told the story before i didn't even know you how like you were supposed to clean toilets until i got my first apartment and i never cleaned the toilet and i started getting that ring around it and someone's like you need to clean this and i was like what like i didn't know i thought they cleaned themselves because of the water. I was like, who cleaned? Not to sound like a high housewife, but like my mom was like literally like, oh, I cleaned the toilets.

And I was just like, oh my gosh, that's so crazy because I was like, who cleaned? I didn't know you were supposed to. I had no idea you were supposed to clean. I did try to learn how to clean. I'm not great at it. It's not to say like I'm lazy, but I'm not good at it. I'm good at cleaning dishes, but I'm not good at cleaning um toilets so my mom does help she always comes over and helps too moses is good at cleaning i'm not so much but you're good at cleaning um i'm pretty good certain

things the bathroom not really but the rings around the thing you have to get special soaps and stuff for that i mean they it's not that difficult i mean there's just like they sell little kits and then it comes like on a little wand you just I mean, it's not that difficult. I mean, there's just like, they sell little kits and then it comes like on a little wand. You just kind of scrub. It's pretty, pretty quick, but yeah.

Malibu loves cleaning too. She'll be cleaning all day. Like she wants to clean everything, the floors and I just never really got that gene. But I try.

You're good at cleaning. I can't. Like he doesn't do dishes but I can do everything else but such as floors are hard. Like everything's hard anyways. But people love to but people love to clean i love to vacuum actually fun fun fact about me wow you love boring intro ever but yeah i like in mexico and love to vacuum but it is true i do vacuum pretty like five times a day i think it's fun but i five times a day yeah i

will just take that vacuum out and go around it's cause I have the cats and like there's cat hair everywhere so it drives me crazy so I'm always vacuuming but

I love a Swiffer you do love a Swiffer I do love a Swiffer did I do it in a routine video or something yes you did did I yeah

I love it especially the ones that shoot out liquid I do love a Swiffer sorry I feel like it's like relatable though I do not like to clean. I mean I'm thinking

now people are going to be like okay Trisha not relatable. Yeah but just for the record I've always been like this. Even when I was a stripper. Five dollar blowjob. I seriously still didn't know how to clean and then someone told me I was supposed to clean and I was like holy sh**. You know what? Shout out my mom for always cleaning for us but also shout out I should have probably

learned to clean you know to like take care of my apartment. But I do laundry. I'm good. I can do that kind of stuff you know there's a throw up i'm cleaning it you know what i mean i can i can do a lot of that stuff i think trash no anyways what chores do you like to do let us know we're back to the newlyweds episode oh yeah oh my god was there a question about chores oh yeah and you got it wrong the chores question yeah because of course it's taking out the trash what was it though what did i say you put changing diapers oh right like what chore does your partner hate the most yeah yeah i'd rather take out no but it's in the moment like in a year or two there's gonna be no more diapers you know so our in our entire life trash is like the thing even when i didn't

live with you i would come to your house to take the trash right right right that's true that's true i was thinking the big picture you were you're being in the moment now i feel like i'm gonna get hate for that i don't like to change i do it i don't like love it someone else gave me a little shame for that the other day in real life they were like oh that's not very like maternal of you i was like just because i don't like to do it doesn't mean I don't do it. Who likes to? Oh, I love changing a poopy diaper. Like no one loves it.

I don't know. Anyways, this whole segment gets me canceled. I really, I mean, with cats or dogs, like no one likes to clean up after it. Like I'll do it if no one else is around. Yeah, period. It makes me a little queasy doing it. It makes me uncomfortable but yeah also it's it's one of the things i've noticed like as a parent there's so much that comes down to coordination like having really good coordination so tricia used

to change a lot of the diapers when they were little but like sometimes they just they think it's a game and they try to like oh they just wiggle their way out of you changing their diaper and you can close it so it takes a lot of like coordination right now and that's i get frustrated i'm just like help it's no it is like sometimes you have to take them even off the table and try to somehow put the diaper on so they both love to squirm now yeah no they're like i think it's a game and they're rolling around and so but used to change a lot when she was younger. Yeah. Thanks, babe. But now you're picking it back up because,

I mean, Malibu is potty trained. Yeah, yeah. So now, you know, you go to the bathroom with her and do the whole thing. This intro sucks. I know.

We love it. And I do. There's so many listeners that have kids. They do relate. We can't just say one more thing about that for the kids. It's something that no one

ever talks about for parenting and potty training is like when you take them to public restrooms and they have to go to the public restroom. Like they don't have – obviously because you don't have like the little seats for them and it's really – they have to like hang on to you. Like I feel like no one ever talks about this. That's true. I've never even thought about it before.

Because I was thinking about when I was a kid but they literally like you kind of have to like hold them up. Like obviously you can put the seats down. My dad used to have me squat on the seat and i was doing but now you can put the seat covers down and they kind of like have to hold on to you because otherwise they'll fall in and then the big loud flush sometimes it's automatic like they don't have the thing so the first time i took malibu i just remember her like screaming being so scared of that big loud flush my sister-in-law told me here's a little hack put a little band-aid over that sensor

so that way they don't like cause them to be like scared or anything like that because those are scary for adults and kids. And I'm like, God, no one really talks about that, which I guess is like a weird thing to talk about. But like I feel like I should talk about more parenting because I'm like, how do the kids go to the bathroom? You know what I mean? But anyways, is that okay to talk about?

Welcome to our parenting. I know. I don't know. I always think it's like so innocent that someone always has to make it weird, but there it is. All right. Hot topics. We're here.

We're here. Period. Do you have anything to say? Nothing? I have more to say about that, but I don't know if it's a subject. Your face is so, like, I don't know. I don't know if it was like cut some things or if you had more to say. Your face is holding it.

In my mind, I thought you were saying we're here and we're queer or something like that. I was just like. Always. Always. I was just like. Sometimes I think about what you're going to say next. Oh, that's a crazy thing to say. Think about what you're going to say next.

Love that. What's this little guy? Oh, he's from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He's cute. Yeah, it's pretty punk rock over there today. We're a punk rock kind of podcast punk rock can I tell you

about the hot topic I'm kind of obsessed with right now though yeah please I'm obsessed with the conspiracy theory about White Lotus fans

thinking Amy Lou Wood and Walton Goggins are feuding have you dug into that oh we got into this and not loving it but it won't air

until like May. May on ban for Taylor. I know. We were so obsessed with White Lotus yesterday and we were talking about this because of the Walton Goggins post and all this stuff. And I got really into it because I was like, how do people know they got blocked? Like, how do they know? So let's hear the theory because I did get into this and I'm weirdly

parasocial with, I guess a lot of people are. I guess it's not just me. I know. I feel like on set dynamics between parasocial with i guess a lot of people are i guess it's not just me i know everyone i feel like on set um dynamics between cast members is always kind of a thing right like it is interesting like um the don't worry darling harry styles olivia wilde florence pew obviously it ends with us with blake and justin and now white lotus with like thoughts about the cast members feuding. And at first, when I read about this conspiracy theory, I was like, oh, that's a little ridiculous. But then people are really convincing because they pull up a lot of stuff. And I'm like, damn, maybe y'all are right.

So the whole conspiracy theory is that Amy Lou Wood, who plays Chelsea, and Walton Goggins, who plays Rick, have this weird kind of feud going on. Even though they both speak positively about each other during the press tour and they pose together, fans have noticed that they weren't following each other on Instagram. And people have also speculated that Walton might have blocked Amy Lou Wood because her previous comments are gone from his profile, but his comments still appear on her posts. That's what I was trying to figure out. How do people – why do people think he blocked her? Because I was like, why don't they just unfollow each other or something? Because they did follow each other. Now they don't follow each other. Yes.

And the blocking means because her comments don't appear on his posts. Yes. They're so good. The internet is so good. And people were saying, well, maybe it's because she deactivated her account for a little bit pre, like, the White Lotus coming out. So maybe it was, like, the glitch, kind of like the Hailey Bieber not following Justin Bieber thing. But it is still kind of weird because it's been a while. And they, like, are posting photos of each other.

So why wouldn't you have fixed the follow? And also she's following his glasses account. The's the walton goggins goggles they haven't come in i was hoping they'd be in for today um so it was quite odd because um after the finale walton posted a lot of photos about her like 18 photos 18 photos yes and it's like behind the scenes so it's not even just like their characters it's's like, no, this is Walton and Amy filming in Thailand behind the scenes hugging each other. Yes. And they tag the other cast members whenever they post behind the scenes, but they don't tag each other. And they both posted like photo dumps after the finale.

And they both use the same Fleetwood Mac song, Silver Springs. And what does that mean? Because I saw a lot of people say that. Is that like a romantic song? What does that mean? I think people are – because basically the big the speculation is I don't know if there's literally any kind of truth to this at all. But this conspiracy is that they had some kind of affair or something and that this is could be like a connection that they had

with the song. That's that's crazy, though. But like if you had the affair and then now you regret it and block it, why would you use the song? That's so weird. I know. Exactly. So it is kind of weird. That's a little crazy theory. But all this was kind of picked up because Jason Isaacs, who plays Tim Ratliff. He's always the problematic one.

He's at the scene of the crime. What is he? Is he in his 60s and he's just a drama? A little messy. A messy. He was talking about how there was drama on set. I was like, can we just like relax? Yes.

Jason Isaacs. Because he did an interview with Vulture and he said some people got very close. They were friendships that were made and friendships that were lost. Oh, my God. They say in the show what happens in Thailand stays in Thailand. But there is an offscreen white lotus as well with fewer deaths, but just as much drama. Oh, my God. Okay.

He said, I became very close to some people and feel less close to others, but we still all had that experience together. And there's a certain level of discretion required. Wow. Okay, T Channel. He is T Channel. It's like getting all this. And then he did another interview after that with the New York Times where they did like

a follow up about the drama. And he said obviously people form friendships but we weren't one great big homogeneous happy family it was a large group of people away from home unanchored from their normal lives i'm not going to break ranks and say who did what to whom but it certainly wasn't a holiday so well you're doing worse by not saying you're like because if it's something so innocent everyone's just gonna like speculate like what because it really could be just like maybe some people weren't getting along because walton goggins isn't following amy lewood like i said

but he's also not following jason isaacs or parker posey so maybe it's something between you know walton and those two i don't know um amy is just not following walton goggins oh that's only one yeah wow and he wasn't at the white lotus down the street and he wasn't at the finale event and neither was michelle monaghan who plays jackie oh what does that mean where is she to hide into this so people think maybe there's drama there too i don't know but um to his defense walton said that he was very much like to himself in thailand um i think he opened up about like after his um wife unalived herself in early like 2002 that he had a similar journey of going to thailand and feeling lost so maybe that also has something to do with it like he just maybe wasn't part of

the cast or whatever so maybe and also his character is kind of like an alone wolf so maybe he didn't want to get too that's what i would think like i don't know if you're like method acting and that kind of stuff maybe you don't want to like bond with the other cast members he also just seems like someone to himself he's also like i don't know the other ones if they're married or not but like i just know he's like been married for a long time to his wife now so maybe he's just like i don't know i wonder if his family i wonder if their families come i always think about that because the guy who is the cute one in season two not the like really hot one that everyone thinks but the other one the one that theo james oh he like

brought his wife and like he had like a six month old at the time and brought them over so i always wonder if they like bring over their families or they just like i think so because um amy lou wood was talking about bringing her friend out but she was like we don't really go out because we burn too easy so yeah she said we only would go to the beach like towards sunset oh so i think they did bring like friends and stuff from their stories because it always seemed okay so they yeah i wonder so you always wonder if they could bring because if i brought my family i'd probably be isolated too but then i guess like part of it i don't know i've never been on set. But we probably want to bond with people on the set. I don't know how that works.

I don't know. Yeah. Especially it's so long. Eight months. That's true. That is crazy. Yeah. You have time to bond and have your family I suppose.

Sam who plays Lachlan said even that one episode where they were on the boat before like the big full moon party or whatever. He said that episode took a whole month to film. A month filming that episode on the boat. How? I don't know. What? So if you're like on the boat stuck with people for like a month,

like full workday stuck on a boat. A month. The Titanic, all the Titanic sinking took a week. So I was like, how did that take a month? And that was people sliding down, going in the freezing cold water on the boat like i don't understand i know because they were just kind of hanging out on the on the boat right but i'm really curious about the working dynamic of this i mean it works it's such a good show but i have a feeling like mike white just wants to like hang out he's like let's like elongate this really take our time yeah because like what do you mean

that takes a month that's so crazy i'm so fascinated though by like the behind the scenes of it because i'm also like why it is kind of being uh very open about like feuding with the composer and was he at howard stern yes i kind of hate that people go on howard stern anymore like isn't he i'm sorry when you talk about problematics it's like i guess i guess whatever i guess i should have forgiveness you know what i'm learning that you right if i hold people to their past i need to be but but the difference is howard stern has It's like, I guess whatever. I guess I should have forgiveness. You know what? I'm learning that. You're right. If I hold people to their past, I need to be. But the difference is Howard Stern has never apologized for calling women fat.

That's true. You know what I mean? I think he needs to have accountability before he dies. Do you know what I mean? That's not fair that people can just go on, I get it. He's big and whatever like that. And I love that he's like, okay, liberal now. We love it.

Feminist, great. But acknowledge that you were a shit person for so many years including my formative years where i thought like i had to write a sibian to get a man's attention you know what i mean or i had to be so skinny and perfect if i didn't have fake boobs howards don't want to like me so i feel like he has to apologize to a big generation of malignants out there but mike white was on there talking about the composer of which is crazy did you hear what it was supposed to be and what mike white said no to no i didn't hear what the it's on x oh wow i think it's real you know me i can always get you calling for a lot of things but it sounded good like it sounded like more like the original ones but a little bit different it sounded oh man i wish i wish i could find it i should have

sent it to you um but it sounded like really good and he like this is the one that mike white like said no to oh and so they just like because it had more of that weird sound in it. Yeah, because he said he was just mad that he like – which I kind of agree with Mike White. If you wait until like the finale is about to air and then you like try and drop some like lore that makes someone look bad, I think that is a little – it was almost like – it's like the timing of things, right? It's like Ethan Slater's wife, like granted she can tell her story and obviously like he was a – and do what he did. But it is like, you know, when the wicked hype is happening to drop the expose. I see. I get it.

I mean, yeah. I mean if you're hurt. But waiting for that is like kind of crazy. Like let's wait until it comes out and it's like a big movie and then talk about it. I don't know i don't i think for the white lotus in particular it was a little bit more um i think the intention was a little bit more uh devious because i think the composer did have like an agenda against mike white and wanted to make him look bad you know um ethan slater's white x i i don't i feel like maybe he was just it was just everywhere so it's

hard to see like it was so in her face. But I think with the composer, he definitely had it out. Yes. Because you can, they were just having such created differences in the way they talked about each other. You can tell that he was like annoyed with Mike White. But Mike White's like, I just gave some notes, which I also kind of understand that side. There's been times where people, I'm like really nice.

And then the minute you turn like a little bit, like a, like a little aggressive towards someone or you like really want to make your point across they're like damn okay like someone's in a bad mood today it's just like all i said was i didn't want this you know what i mean and it can like come across so i can understand that too we have to see the emails i think the emails true let's see what you actually wrote it's like his to me i'm like what is his show it is his concept so like wouldn't you want to like you know collaborate but sometimes creative people get so like like possessive of what they do because that's their art that's their craft and they don't want to especially when it's like your show that you created yeah but i think for season three the score was really good like yeah especially about the finale like

it whatever changes they made it was like so there was so much tension and it was so good so we said that from the beginning and the music was like always like the best part when it was like slow at the beginning like the music was such a good part yeah maybe they'll get back together maybe there's a little pr move yeah um because they obviously work well the end result is good despite the process being a little messy songs go viral like the first two theme songs every messy. And the theme songs go viral. Like the first two theme songs every year on TikTok would go viral. Like people were like, it's in our head.

We love it. So yeah. I'm surprised Mike White didn't interview because he doesn't, right? He doesn't do press. I think he's kind of specific about what he does because he's done like a couple random podcasts and stuff too. Oh, really? Yeah. And they – even with like the White Lotus, like the show in yeah and they even with like the white lotus like the show

in general they do very like specific random press um like so random yeah like very um a lot of prints like the hollywood reporter and even like yeah so but even the hollywood reporter like that photo shoot walton goggins and jason isaacs were in separate like groups of the cover so i was like oh i think jason isaacs were in separate like groups of the cover so i was like oh i think jason isaacs is the problem he seems problematic and everything i think walton's to himself this is just literally me having no idea it's just projection yeah it's just random i feel like he's to himself he has a wife he has like he like you said he had a he had a first wife that like on a live show he went to thailand so he's like going through a lot there his character he has

to mentally be in that space the photo dump was odd it is a weird one to do like if you're not following each other and you're in a weird place whether you're in a weird place or a good place i think the photo dump is odd either way because like you are married i get like having an homage to your character but his was like a long it's like something i'd write to moses on valentine's day like oh my god this is the true love story together forever. Like, just like, I was like, okay, like, damn, you know. To his defense, so, and I just learned this because his fans were giving, like, the background. Like, he does that, I guess, with every project. Yes, because he did, like, I think an architectural digest or whatever, you know, the house tour

thing. Okay. And he even, like, his last co-star, he even had, and it was a guy. It was, he just got so attached to him and wrote about him as if he was, like, in love with him just because he was so passionate. And even had, like, a framed photo of them, like, in his family, like, gallery wall in his house. So I think he's just very intense with his roles, you know? So I think that's kind of his style. What's better than a well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue?

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At least she has me cosplayed them. You know what I mean? True. Like, we have all those pictures, but I'm playing all those characters. You know what I mean? Even like, yeah. At least she has me cosplayed them. You know what I mean? True. Like we have all those pictures, but I'm playing all those characters. Could you imagine I just like hang up me and Bo and Yang in the front like foyer just from SNL. Be like, here we are. And I was like so in love with him.

You know what I mean? That'd be like weird. I don't know. It's like weird. I did write a little love letter, I guess, to him. But I try to keep it cute. Like, you know what I mean? Because you just, I don't know.

It's a little. Okay. But if that's his thing, that's his thing. He's an artist, I guess. He just felt the passion. They were cute together. Not going to lie. And people were also speculating that it was odd that his wife was with him at the Righteous

Gemstones premiere, but she was not with him at the White Lotus premiere. Which is a big one. Yes. I'm going to that White Lotus premiere if that's going to happen. And then obviously he missed the big finale event so there are some odd things i i feel like the conspiracy theory is probably more interesting than what actually for sure you know but although i don't know because i think jason isaacs is really we need him on the podcast why are you so messy sir what's going on in your

life like i need to know because just giving this of like your own all this information and like drama of your own free will is so wild but maybe because he's british is he just like you know blunts i guess are they just really blunt i guess it is crazy he was british that is wild like what a weird casting for that role well i guess even amy lu but oh yeah, yeah, she was. But she was British on the show, right? True. Yeah, she kept her accent. Yeah, because the girls never talk. Like, Leslie Bim never gives an interview or anything

like that, right? We never hear from Carrie Coon. Nothing. Okay, Carrie Coon did interviews, but nothing ever like. Scandalous. Yeah. To, like, that implied there was all this kind of drama or anything either. That's so funny. The last person you would think that would talk about the drama on there on a set. I know.

Because you have NDAs. It's so odd. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, it's funny how – I think the White Lotus is also just so big now too that everyone's like really – Like obsessed with the background of it all. Yeah.

I wonder how long it will last. There really is nothing else going on in the – It goes so quick. Like everything in the news circuit. It I wonder how long it'll last. There really is nothing else going on in the – It goes so quick. Like everything in the news circuit. It is funny how like quickly we forget. Like you become obsessed then we forget

and then something else like you or something will come along and everyone starts talking about that. You is really on the horizon. That definitely would be big. Which like it doesn't even seem

like it could compare at this point. I'm like, oh my God, no, it's not going to even be a white lotus. But you is pretty big. So I feel like that would be talked about. Or like Bridgerton, you know.

That's true. Like you're so in it when it happens and now I never think about it until – You like that would be talked about. Or like Bridgerton, you know. That's true. Like you're so in it when it happens. And now I never think about it until. You're so right. We were so obsessed with Bridgerton. I do think about Bridgerton on the daily though. I think about it quite often.

But yeah, when it came out, it was so big. And Megan Fahey, who was from season two, she has a movie coming out. So I hope like people remember and like want to go see it. Yes, my makeup artist was at the premiere last night. Oh my God, no way. At the Chinese Theater. Did you get invited? No.

I haven't checked my business email, so maybe. He said he was there and I looked up the cast because he was telling me and someone gets airdropped something dubious and suspense and tales. And I looked it up and I was like, oh, it's the girl from White Lines. It looks good. Yeah, I love Megan Fahey. I love her, but the movie concept is crazy. Oh, oh, it's the girl from White Lies. It looks good. Yeah. I love Megan Fahey. I love her, but like the movie concept is crazy. Oh, I love it.

It's kind of like a camp concept, but the reviews about it are really good. Oh, is it? Yeah. It's kind of like, it's horror-ish, like Scream camp, like how, camp how, in the way that Scream was. So, or like, I Know What You Did Last Summer. It gives me kind of that vibe. That's coming back too.

Both of them are coming back, right? Yeah, you're right. I Know What You Did last summer is in July. This year? Yeah. Are they filming it now? I think they've wrapped already. Oh, because I have photos of like Freddie Prinze and like Jennifer LePew.

Yeah, Sarah Michelle Gellar. Madeline Klein is. Is she a new one? I think the main girl in it. Yeah. Madeline Klein again? She's from Outer Banks. I've never seen that one.

I didn't see it. Honestly, I've only saw season one. You know, I just live for just like a cute, beautiful, blonde, perfect girl. Yeah. Okay. I have to watch. I don't know her. That's so weird.

I usually would know these people. I just live for her. I don't know. The show isn't really my vibe. It's kind of – I mean, girls love it, but it is a little bro-y for my taste personally. I always just remember Tati and Scotty from the Vlog Squad. That makes sense. That makes sense.

Like he redid a whole series of Otter Banks. Like they tried to recreate it. I was like, this is weird. That seems very much like on brand. Yeah. That's why I was always like, no, no, I don't need to watch that. But Madeline Klein. Okay.

Well, I watched it with that. And you said the guy from It Ends With Us was in it too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brandon. Yeah, Brandon Sklone or whatever his name is. I think I watched it. Streaming or is it? Airdrop?

I mean, Airdrop? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's in theaters this weekend. Yeah. You gonna go? Yeah, I guess I'll watch it. Streaming or is it? AirDrop? I mean, AirDrop? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's in theaters this weekend. Yeah. You gonna go? Yeah, I'm very excited for it. Since I saw the trailer,

I'm like, this looks like fun. God, there's so many things I want to see in theaters. Oh, yeah. You're falling behind. I know. I think I'll see Minecraft before I see that one.

Yeah, probably. I gotta see Minecraft. I gotta know what it's about. By the time you see it, like, everyone would have moved on. It'll be like, it'll be like Jurassic Park. Yes, we'll cosplay it in the summer. Like, okay, I finally got my axolotl costume don't worry i know i need to see

it we can cosplay it just come i'm steve you can who's steve that's crazy who is steve good question did you make that up no you know steve from Minecraft? I think that's what Jack Black... That's Jack Black's character. Yeah. I don't know the lore. He just put a beard and what is it, a blue shirt? Yeah, the blue shirt. I think I'd probably be able to cosplay at that then, you know.

It could be Jason Momoa. But Jason Momoa wears pink, so isn't that better for you? Oh, he does in the show? In the movie. Oh, I saw they were like PR. They were wearing like crochet things. Yeah. Oh, why does he wear pink?

Is he like part of the Axolotl crew? I have no idea what the costuming decision was, but he wears a pink jacket. Done and done. I would love... Oh, my God. I'd love that for him. The crochet was a gift from Jason Momoa to Jack. How do you know that?

Because that's what Jack Black said. He said that? He said Jason Momoa made this for us? And it was huge on him. I think it was kind of a funny gag. It was huge on Jack Black? Yeah. But that was like...

Like long. But that's why I consider it on Jason Momoa's part because he probably like, oh, he wants something oversized. Yeah. I don't know. I would. That's shit. That is his style anyway.

Yeah. 3X everything. I always feel like Jack Black when I wear oversized things. Today was my Jack Black day with sweatpants. And I love, I love an oversized outfit. Like it just makes you feel skinny. Like I always wear 3X everything because I'm like, oh, I'm so tight in it. It is the perfect life hack.

Yeah. I always go up a size. I remember as a kid, I always would like like I would buy sizes too small for me. I'd try and squeeze into like mediums or like 10s and it's like – but then you look crazy. Things are uncomfortable all day too. Uncomfortable. No one knows the tag size. And then the minute I started buying for my size, I was like, wow, it's kind of life-changing.

Buy your size. It's a little life hack. Yeah, the White Lotus drama is everywhere. But I think people won't care in like a week i am excited i love when they announce the cast i remember when they announced the season three cast and i remember being like oh i don't know any of these people but then i know me too yeah they're gonna cast because i'll like we were talking too it's like it can't be like a-list it's got to be something yeah but now it's such a hot show that like you know those a-list

actors are like let me get in there you know i really do think and we love jack black i really think jack black because they work together we looked up mike white's resume he did uh natural libre too oh he did natural libre natural libre he wrote school of rock he did despicable me 4 we were looking at the whole lore of him yesterday yeah he like wrote a bunch of stuff so i didn't know he was on the amazing race oh wait we didn't talk about this someone told me his him and his dad were on there yeah him and his dad were on there i knew i watched him on survivor but i didn't know he's on the amazing race i love that he's a reality show diva he loves that is the secret to writing like good characters didn't he say that on the howard stern show too as like he's like i just watch reality tv

like i don't like the drama or something yeah and how he thinks some people like write him off because um he like he thought the composer was didn't take him serious because he just like watched a lot of reality tv like it's below that's a wild take because like you were in all these movies and white lotus i think people take you pretty seriously but yeah well i mean it has a good format for a reality tv true the white lotus the white lotus it's kind of like a combination between the real housewife of beverly hills and big brother oh yeah like you put fancy people in a hotel people kind of like a combination between the real housewife of Beverly Hills and Big Brother. Oh, yeah.

Like you put fancy people in a hotel. People are nominating a lot of the Desperate Housewives like Marsha Crossing to be on it. Oh, that makes sense. That'd be really good actually because she's good on all those stuff. But I feel like the secret is doing unexpected people. So if I were Mike White, I would look at the list and be like, no. Wait, I need my phone. Can I get my phone?

This is relevant to the thing. Sorry, this is like really important. It's not that important, but it's important to me and I need to thank you. I would never ask you to get up and give me my phone. Is it another schemes order? No, I still can't order it on my computer either. I can't because I wanted to get the black dress too.

I think I'm blocked. I think my IP or whatever. Is it IP? I don't know. What is it when they can like verify who you are? The IP address. Is that Is it IP? I don't know. What is it when they can verify who you are? The IP address. Is that what it is? You know when you're anonymous but we can find you through the IP. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, okay. This account has

9.4 million. Bustle. Do we know Bustle? Oh, yeah. They're like a publication. Oh, is it like print or is it just... I think they're just digital. Okay. They had the people they want to see on White Lotus. Oh, are you on there? Yes.

How am I going to find it, though? Okay, let me see. Hold on. Wait. It's so important to me. And I responded. I'm like, thank you so much. Oh, and they wrote manifesting.

Number six was Trisha Paytas. So it says manifesting it for you. Thank you, Bustle9.4. But let me see what else was on here because I, like, loved it. How do I get to this thing? Can you click the post? Oh, see. Oh, wow.

Okay. Here's who we want to see in the White Lotus season four. Yeah. Oh, right away. I was like, Brenda Song, Lindsay Lohan. Oh, Lindsay Lohan. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. I actually like this. Okay. So, number one was Brenda Song. Makes sense. Genius. Yeah.

Love her. Love Showgirl. I love Brenda Song. I love her, too. Two was Gabby Wendy, which we also I love her too two was Gabby Wendy which we also love oh yeah Gabby Wendy

would be amazing three Stanley Tucci oh my love he's in everything so you might as well put him in White Lotus four Lindsay Lohan I mean

that's the comeback we need number five Coleman Domingo do we know him oh I love Coleman Domingo what's he from he is in

he just did a movie called Sing Sing but he's gay so we love yeah absolutely yes we need that number six Trisha Baines right under Coleman Domingo I was also looking at Getty Image for my Broadway show my Getty Images are popping these days okay that was it how far you've come Getty Images but then look at number seven Kyle McLaughlin have we not been championing him for so long? That's true.

If I got on White Lotus with Kyle McLaughlin, like, watch out, okay? Oh, my God. Amy Liu. You'd be Amy Liu in Waltz. That's what I'm saying. My post, my love post. I've loved you since the beginning. I made my husband cosplay you.

How many times have you cosplayed him? You did Showgirls. You did Orson from Desperate Housewives. That's true. Flintstones. Like, you've done him so many times. Like, obsessed with him and kim cattrall oh love yes elaine hendricks would be good number nine yeah from parent trap yeah how many are there i don't know oh jeff goldblum also kind of an everything though kind of an everything also maybe too big for it you know

unless he's the hotel manager oh that's actually kind of subverted. He is that. Yeah, but it's usually from the country they're from. You know, like Italy. Well, I guess, yeah. Maybe just Italy. I don't know. Jeremy Strong.

Do we know him? He's from Succession, I think. Oh, okay. Kelly Rutherford. She looks familiar. She's from Gossip Girl. Oh, okay. She's Blake Lively's mom in Gossip Girl. Oh, she looks like she's from something else too. Okay. How many are there? Oh, my God. Wait, there's a Gossip Girl. Oh. She's Blake Lively's mom in Gossip Girl.

Oh. She looks like she's from something else, too. Okay. How many are there? Oh, my God. Wait. There's a lot. Okay.

Oh, there's only a few more. Max Greenfield. Do we know him? He's from New Girl. Wow. Look at you. Pop culture expert. I feel like we're on a trivia show right now.

That's crazy. Kristen Wiig. We love her. Well, yes. She looks like White Lotus there, for sure. She had that show that we watched. Oh, yes. She looks like White Lotus there, for sure. Well, she had that show that we watched. Oh, Palm Royale. Oh, that's giving.

That was giving. That was trying to be White Lotus, for sure. I think Leslie Bibb was on that, too, actually. And then finally, the Rose family from Schitt's Creek. Oh, that's awesome. The whole family. Yeah, the whole family, which is kind of true, because we would love to see all of them go on vacation. Well, they have a hotel, so it should happen over there. Oh, yeah, a little crossover. Well, it's having four seasons,

but maybe they get their money back. But Moira, Parker Posey was giving Moira a lot, you know what I mean? I think that was the blueprint for her. I love the blueprint, yes. That's so random, you know? Like, sometimes you're just like, how do people think of me? Like, it's weird. There's a young Gen Z gay over there

somewhere petitioning for you to be on it. Shut up! Honestly, yeah. That's like the person that interviewed me at People Too was like a young gay, anding for you to be on it. Shut up. Honestly, yeah. That's like the person that interviewed me at People Too was like a young gay. And I was like, I love it. He's like, I so apologize for anyone before me. People's kind of sad, though. They post like really sad things a lot. People covers a lot because they cover celebrity news, entertainment news.

But they also do like human interest stories and true crime and stuff like that. They just cover a lot of beats. Well, you kind of segged me up. Segged me up. Perfect segue to I had a Gabby Windy hot topic really randomly. Did you see her little scandalo? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Is there one hot topic you haven't seen? How did you not see Gabby's hot topic? Gabby's hot topic? She's feuding with the guy from The Bachelor. And they're going back and forward. The guy from The Bachelor.

I saw she was tweeting with Michael Bublé. Is that different? Different, yeah. Okay, because she's like, I hate Michael Bublé. I hate him dancing with the stars. I was like, granted, we all hate Michael Bublé. But I didn't ask him. Damn.

Does he do Christmas songs? He just seems dubious. I don't know. There's a ton of stories about Michael Bublé that are like, ooh, okay. What is this one? Who's the guy from The Bachelor? Which one? Clayton Etchart.

He was the... I don't go here, y'all. So I'm not Bachelor Nation. I haven't checked in for a Bachelor season in quite some time. Me neither. I am a gaggy. I am a gaggy enthusiast, though. Love that girl.

Yep. So I had to look into the lore a little bit. So I know a little bit about their lore. But Gabby was one of the contestants on Clayton's season of The Bachelor before she was The Bachelorette. And anyway, she was on Las Culturistas. She was? Oh, yeah. Well, yes.

What an icon. Oh, my God. They've had like Lady Gaga, Ariana, Mariah. Icon. Gabby Wendy. Love that. Period. And she was talking about Clayton.

And she called him a, quote looking unquote and said that he posts these like dancing videos to his Instagram and TikTok. And she said that his dancing videos would make a person run and wish you didn't have eyes. So Clayton responded by saying by calling out Gabby saying bullying people for their physical looks and their passions is completely unnecessary and behavior like this needs to be called out so that hopefully it isn't continued you have a massive platform and influence gabby so i hope you can reflect upon this moment and be better going forward um gabby what you're doing is bullying there is no other way around it attacking you're attacking me for my physical appearance you're attacking me for my passion that i love that's changed my life it's unnecessary and it's not

funny now wow okay it was a little intense it was just a little the the con was the toe looking part yes yes but granted so toes are dancing and the dancing and the dancing which okay i'm like he's on tiktok doing dances yeah is he bad or is he good he's fine it's like i think this is the context is a girl talking about her ex-boyfriend who did her dirty oh this is who won her bachelor or was on her she was um the final three with clayton on his back yes and the lore for their season is that there was um three final girls um he had them all at the rose ceremonies together um told him told them that he was in love with all of them he told them to their face that he had sex with all of them like without their consent to say that so he sat there he said i

he said that he had sex with all of them as they were standing there on this rose ceremony awkwardly how did he say it that's crazy he said he had sex with all of them as they were standing there on this rose ceremony awkwardly. How did he say it? That's crazy. He said that he had sex with all of you guys. He said that he was intimate with all of them. Yeah. As they're all standing there together. Like surprising them live on air. Yes. Like he said it in public on air.

That's the first time they heard about it. That's the first time. That is kind of a wild thing to say. That's crazy. And they just had to stand there during this really long and awkward rose ceremony as he was going on and on. And then afterwards, he begged each of them to stay, made them meet his family just a day or two after this rose ceremony, and then decided to throw them a new one by breaking up with them at the same time. Oh, um.

He broke up with Gabby and I forget the other girl's name. But you know how her season was the two bachelorettes. Oh. It's because they were the two that got dumped by Clayton All. Oh. Weirdly. But he like was really stringing them along. He made it.

Obviously, that's the nature of The Bachelor. You know, he dated a lot of people. He fell in love with different people. But he really strung them along and made it a lot more traumatic than it needed to be. I just feel like they shouldn't be having sex with the people if they're not like. Especially all of them. Okay. Okay. Maybe there's two's two i don't know let's test it out yeah but all three of them and then you jump two of them at the same time and then you just drop that bomb in front of all of them without like their consent to even say it he apologized to her no he has after the show he has since gone on um a mental health journey if

you will he got really into wellness and all of that but like if that's your ex and you did her dirty obviously she it's to me it was more like girl venting about her ex-boyfriend and granted cleton is a six five white like a college football player he is very conventionally attractive so it's not like she was punching down right it's not like me was punching down right it's not like me calling an ex-boyfriend a toe looking you look like a toe yeah he's like a model you know so it's like it's not like she's punching down obviously she was attracted to him at one point that's why she was on the show and like slept with him and everything so yeah he took

it a little crazy to be like that's not okay you're bullying bullying is crazy because that's like relentlessly being like toe looking ugly like that's like just over and over saying it's like obviously he's attracted every i think the word bullying like i i'm more concerned about the kids in school who are being bullied for the color of their skin or their sexuality like that to me bullying is just such an intense word so to say this is bullying i'm like it's just a girl talking because you did her dirty yeah which i totally get and love but i do think a good rule of thumb is to like oh my god ignoring an ex is just the best you know what i mean especially gabby who's thriving like obviously say whatever you want because i'm all about it too

like drag an ex all day long but i do love when i can taking a high road you know what i mean because then it's like i don't even think about you you know as justin bieber says like i didn't want to write this song the one song i know i don't even think and i care when i still don't you know and that's period on that so um i'm definitely dean gabby obviously yeah me too you know and if she wants to call you a toe you're a toe because you put out her business her sexual So, I'm definitely team Gabby, obviously. Yeah, me too. You know? And if she wants to call you a toe, you're a toe because you put out her business, her sexual business on air. You dumped her.

Strung her along. Strung her along. And just made that experience worse than it had to be for her. Yeah. And like I said, I just support any girl that wants to like drag their awful ex, do it all day long. But sometimes it does feel better when you're like, especially when you're succeeding and thriving. Like, I think when I was like, she has, this is like her moment.

Clearly she's number two on the list for White Lotus. I'm number six. So it's like, this is your moment. Just keep going. And then that ex will ever would be like, damn. Honestly to you, because I also didn't know about him until I had to go look him up to get the lore. Yeah.

But it was crazy though, because the uh the bachelor nation uh was very much pro clayton i was like y'all what like i feel like we've lost the plot a little bit toxic bachelor nation toxic i think they favor men i don't really know much about but seems to favor men because the season we started moses just left but the season was who was the one we like he did not like him he was like kind of dumb how do you remember he was like good looking but kind of dumb just kind of like white with like you're describing pretty much 95 percent of every bachelor contestant that's been on the program i think his name was zach i don't know he was really boring but we watched that whole season or whatever um but he did the same thing he like said i had sex with you

in the fantasy suite just something so random and so weird and i was like and then he like broke up with her and the person he didn't have sex with, he ended up picking. I was like, you are weird. And then the Bachelor Nation was behind him and supported him. I'm like, toxic, toxic, toxic. I don't like it. I don't like those shows. We kind of stopped watching too. I kind of liked it. I kind of thought it was funny. I'm like, this kind of feels like a humiliation kink or something. I don't know. It's kind of weird. Yeah. I was into it for a bit um i think for me it just got very i think kind of repetitive you know because it's kind of the same but it's like literally like the same format the same like archetype same tropes over and over again and there's so many seasons

the guys always have to strip every episode like every there's always a competition where the guys are strippers then there's a competition where the women are oh did you see that the bachelor what's one golden bachelor is doing uh they – they're going to be going to Paradise. Some of the old Golden Bachelor people that didn't make it, they get to go to Paradise to find each other. Like are the oldies segregated from the young ones or what? Or are they intermingled? I would hope.

That would be so weird. Like they're dating like the young ones. Yeah, the senior citizens. I think they're doing their own. Okay. That makes more sense. I think. I mean, that would be weird. Yeah. But I like that. Second chance at love. I like the idea of the young one. I think they're doing their own. Okay, that makes more sense. I think. I mean, that would be weird.

Yeah. But I like that. Second chance at love. I like the idea of that, yeah. I wonder how the second couple did on Golden Bachelor. You never hear anything about Joey. That should be called

more like Heaven Island. Oh. What? Oh my God. Oh, that's not. Yeah, that's not. That's a wild thing. Moses just popped it.

I mean, we're all going to i guess one day but yeah they should do a celebrity bachelor have they ever done that i don't think so not and like i guess like a flavor of love or like that is kind of the tea but i don't like bachelor we stopped watching it um i randomly i had one more bachelor related topic and not because i like the bachelor because i thought the idea was I don't like Bachelor. We stopped watching it. I don't support it. Randomly, I had one more Bachelor-related topic. And not because I like The Bachelor, but because I thought the idea was interesting. And I do remember Caitlyn. Caitlyn Bristow. She was on a season I watched. I forget which one.

But she got backlash because she called out her ex from the show, Jason Tardik, because he took her baby name for his pet dog. Oh, I hate that bullshit. Okay, so you're on your side. Someone was like, oh, we're naming our dog Elvis. And I'm like, no, you're not. Especially because it's someone close to me. Oh, it's someone you know.

Yeah. Someone's like, oh, we're going to. I think they even asked my mom, like, oh, are they set on Elvis? Because we're about to name our dog that. I was like, Elvis has been my baby name since I was like a little kid i was like no you're not taking that as your dog's name that is so annoying okay because everyone was like i feel like the majority of the internet was against her i was kind of on her side too a little bit what no that's weird that's crazy especially an ex because i've told all my exes names of my babies if one of my

exes named their babies elvis or malibu barbie i'd be like or their dog or whoever the i'd be like that's so weird especially that's all i've ever talked about was like these are my kids because she said that um it's first of all the name was Teddy so I think that's where she got a little bit of backlash because it is kind of like a generic name for I guess a dog too but she said that it was her dream baby name and that they had talked about this together for years because they were together a long time and then he did get a dog and named his golden retriever teddy and she called him out for that but then she got a lot of backlash and she had to kind of like respond to it did she did she apologize i hope she didn't

no not really she said yes it's a common yes teddy is a common dog name yes he can name his dog whatever he wants and it's effed up that he knew it was my dream baby name we talked about it for years yes i have major things to work on in relationships and i've already done so much work whatever he wants. And it's effed up that he knew it was my dream baby name. We talked about it for years. Yes, I have major things to work on in relationships and I've already done so much work. I've seen tremendous growth in myself. I'm so proud of who I am today. My timeline is processing and being who I am

doesn't have to look like anyone else's standard for a timeline. So she kind of like held her ground, I think, and kind of just clarified a little bit. I'm 100% sure because even if it's like and you know whatever it is if that's something you talked about over and over with your partner and then they named their dog that that's weird jason tarnik sounds familiar is he on something that's the name he was on the bachelor or whatever after that i don't know maybe maybe um i don't

know any like bachelor is such a funny show because people become so obsessed with them and then you just like never hear about them ever again yeah there's a select i feel like a lot of them get podcasts on the iheart radio i see okay nick vile yeah honestly clayton etchard i know he's got an iheart podcast they all get iheart deals for some reason he asked me to be on it oh what's his colton underwood yes love their family but also yeah he's so handsome but also you know what i mean like anyways what i don't know like okay no like he's so good looking yeah right okay you know sometimes like and i don't think his partner's like not attractive but it's like you don't know it doesn't like go together sometimes but you know i guess that that's

love is love love is love i love that i guess my point is I do love that I love when like you don't really see someone like go together and you're like oh okay and then look happy they have a baby and look happy but I have so many questions for him I want him on the podcast because I have so many questions I know because he is like kind of like a Gabby where he was on the show twice or whatever and then

ended up being gay and then he jumped walls to get away from the women I was like I need to know why you jumped that wall why did you go so high? Somewhere in there he knew. I think so. But maybe not. You know, who was it? Oh, I was talking about someone who knows like G Flip and Chris Shell.

And they were saying like Chris Shell like wasn't with women before G Flip. And she just like came up to her at a party. Chris Shell did G Flip and just like made out with her and was like obsessed with her like right away. And I was like, wait, that's so interesting. So you weren't even Chrishell to G Flip and just like made out with her and was like obsessed with her like right away. And I was like, wait, that's so interesting. So you weren't even like bi before and you're just like.

Maybe because she was in a relationship for so long. Right? Because she was with, what's his name from This Is Us? Right? Wasn't that her? Really?

I don't know her lore like that. I didn't know. Then she, I think she dated one of the Oppenheimer brothers, I think. I want to say. Justin Hartley. Yeah didn't know. Then she, I think she dated one of the Oppenheimer brothers, I think. I want to say. Justin Hartley. Yeah, she was with them from 2017 to 2022.

Justin Hartley's the Atlas? No, he's from, not, it ends with us. This is us. Oh. With the Mandy Moore show. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So confusing. Oh, so she was with him for a long time.

Yeah, she was with him for, what is that, five years? But you not know. You know what I mean? I guess you don't. Sometimes I don't even know. Because maybe you're just with them for so long that, like, your heart's not even open, right, to what else is out there. Right, right.

Because it's just so focused on this. Kind of like Kyle Richards from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Because she was with her husband for such a long time. And afterwards, she, I guess, is exploring her sexuality with women and stuff too so right like if you do it at a young age you get married you don't really know that doesn't work out then you're maybe just like in the world that's also changed a lot even in those five years like yeah because I feel like bisexuality wasn't very prevalent even today it's not really that prevalent no we're fighting for our bisexual people out there i think both mike white and alan cummings has been like we're

bisexual we don't want to be just gay yeah yeah um so i think just that knowledge that that is a thing and an option it opens people's minds and hearts yeah yeah and that's everything i love that you're on caitlin's side though because no one else is. I didn't hear that story, but right away. I was like, because I had someone, not even a boyfriend, but just someone in my life that knows me really well that was like, or her name or dog Elvis. I was like, no, absolutely not. That's the craziest thing. If you have a baby, and I don't know, I think what is worse, naming your baby a name that

you love, like if he had a baby with someone or a dog. Oh, my God. I kind of think at least the dog, it's just him, you know, him getting a dog. I feel like it's worse if he had a baby because then that involves another woman and stuff. That's true, I guess. Yeah. So, yeah. Now, I feel like it's extra personal.

At least this is just him and that dog. He didn't need a woman. People hate when you take, like, a baby name, too. Like, that was my baby name. I see that on TikTok, too. It was like, you know – With friends and stuff, right? Yeah, when the friends take it.

And I'm like, well, you had that happen. Your brother took your baby name. Yeah, but that was kind of just by coincidence, I guess. Oh, he did? Because I never put it out there that, yeah. I don't know. I don't think it's bad. Like, honestly, I feel like if people want to name their kids Malibu Barbie, I'm like,

that's, yeah, do it. Like, I don't know. You should like a trendsetter, you know? I don't think it's a bad thing to take it. But just if like it's someone you know personally. If they did it first. Maybe. I guess when even I didn't know you like a trendsetter you know i don't think it's a bad thing but just if like it's someone you know personally they did it first maybe i guess when even i didn't know courtney kardashian but when i thought they were gonna have a boy named elvis that's why i had to claim elvis i was like just so you know we're not copying them like but because you said that you're the someone trying to name their dog elvis and yeah so if it but that you'd be upset

with that but it's because you knew them more is is that why yeah i think just because that was that's my name like that's my name. Like, that's my name for my baby. And, like, you're going to just get a dog and take that name? Yeah, I don't like that. That I don't like. Oh, but I guess, okay, are you saying because now I should? But if you had, like, if you knew, if you're just new, kind of friendly with someone, and they also had, like, a Malibu.

Right, I guess it's a little hypocritical. Yeah, that's just to clarify, yeah. Right. I think in my head, I want to be this woke person that's like, everyone take this name. But I'm back on her side. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. Don't take it from me.

But now, like I said, now that I did it first. But yeah, someone close to me naming their dog. Because that's like naming your dog by child's name. That's like weird. Yeah, I think depending on closeness. Like if I was close with someone, I also just like wouldn't want to have the same name. Especially if it's more like unique. If it was like a normal like family name, like maybe like a Steve or something, like if it's just a family thing, then that's fine.

But I think if I had a friend and it was like a unique baby name, I don't know if I would hate them for it. I think I just would find something else. I think that's kind of what it is too because like obviously not related but kind of. When Addison came out with her Aquamarine song, I was a little shocked. Obviously she's not doing it because of me. But I was a little shocked because Aquamarine was like such a front runner for her name. And now I'm like, oh, I don't want the association to be that. Like we named it after Addison.

Love Addison, right? But like don't want it to be named after like her song. Yeah. Even though it was like more about the movie. So I think we like took that out of the running. You know what I mean? I didn't know Miley Cyrus had one called Malibu. I had no idea. Someone's like yeah. I was like oh okay.

Didn't know. Well it wouldn't have changed because I still her name is Malibu Barbie so I like it. I think I wish we would have done Malibu Barbie as her first name because it's her middle name. I see. Yeah. And so it kind of just goes by Malibu if you're just like like on the airplane. You only have to put a first name. So I kind of wish we had the full first name because it's her middle name. I see, yeah. And so it kind of just goes by Malibu if you're just like, like on the airplane, you only have to put a first name. So I kind of wish we had the full first name Malibu Barbie.

I think this gives her more flexibility. Yeah, but give Malibu Barbie. Yeah, but if she wants to present herself as Malibu Barbie, she will. But if she doesn't want, then she has to. From commutes that become learning sessions to dishwashing filled with laughs, podcasts can help you make the most out of your everyday. And when it comes to everyday spending, you can count on the PC Insider's World Elite MasterCard

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Always with the girls forever. Ever and ever. Is Gabby's wife on Hacks? Yes. Like just this season or all the seasons? Just this season. This is their first season, yeah. What is their role?

I honestly don't know. It premieres tonight when that um when the episode airs thursday yeah really yeah i need to watch it and jake shane has to play himself or he's playing someone else i think i think he's playing a character and i think he's in a couple episodes talk to a girl's in glenn powell's show but she's playing glenn powell i mean not she's playing would be a role of a lifetime actually she's She's playing Hawk Tua. What show is he on? What show is that? He has this new show he's working on.

It's not on TMZ. She was Hawk Tua Girl, cast as Hawk Tua Girl in Glenn Powell's new show. I think she just has a little cameo in there. Did she come back? Or no, she's still gone? I think she's making a comeback. She has a new documentary coming out. And it's by an an emmy winning like production

company weirdly like a i think they did like a true crime documentary before um and there's definitely a crime was committed well she was yeah i think they did an investigation to her crypto thing and i guess she was cleared herself wow um and then she's i think she's doing talk to her again but without j without Jake Paul's company is what I read. I don't know how that works. I just love her. I love Hailey, but also just so over the Hawk Tua.

Me too. Let me just the Hailey. Hailey Welch, try a rebrand. Or maybe, you know what? There's nothing wrong just being content in your little town in Tennessee. We were back in Ohio and people are just so happy in places. You know, people are just happy with their lives, their day-to-day lives. They don't desire fame.

They don't desire people knowing them. And they seem really happy. I was like, honestly, this is a serve. This is where you need to stay. Because so many of our family members aren't on social media or anything like that. They're just happy. They take photos just to take photos. They don't post.

I was like, well, do you want to post? Do you want to sell them? He's like, no, I just like taking pictures. And I was like, good for you. Keep that. Because that's amazing. You don't have to listen to anyone's criticism. The pictures were really good. I was like, do you want to post? Do you want to sell them? He's like, no, I just like taking pictures. And I was like, good for you. Keep that because that's amazing. You don't have to listen to anyone's criticism. The pictures were really good. I was like, look at this.

This looks like you should be selling these photos. He's like, I just like to take photos and I don't need anyone to see them except ours, our family. And I love that. Everyone's so content. You know the other thing about the Midwest? We noticed everyone has basements because of tornadoes. We had basements too.

But their whole basements are just playrooms for kids just giant playrooms like everyone has a daycare in their house basically that's so cute yeah Midwest is very

family oriented that's why Malibu is in heaven because all my cousins have kids so she was like 12 kids and she just got to

play with them in all these giant playrooms little kitchen sets whatever and they're just so happy they're so funny because they know

like Malibu she just goes from one station to the other and it's kind of the same it's like there's the doctor station she goes she puts the robe she takes a baby she tests everything ears mother okay goes to the kitchen does the dishes cook something then goes to the there's like a target cashier thing she checks you out she really is like Barbie and then there's uh there's obviously a stage with a microphone and then they start singing and performing they have a lot of singing and performing it's quite amazing how

and the kids are so nice not to like go back there but the kids are like so nice they're a little older than Malibu they're like maybe the youngest is 5 and the oldest is like 15 and like even the 10 year olds they play with her but out here we had an incident we talked about one time like at a party and like a 3 year old when Malibu was like 1 was like you're a baby you can't sit with us I was like god people

are so mean back there 10 year olds were playing with her. I love it. No, everyone wanted to hold her hand and play with her. Yeah, stay wholesome, Midwest. And shout out to all those people who are content with just living life, just observing. Even my meet and greets, people are like, oh, I just scrolled TikTok.

I don't have to. Like, my first thing is always be like, oh, did you post to TikTok? Did you do this? And they're like, no, I don't have it. I just like to watch it. I was like, good for you. Honestly, keep that life. It's good.

I just like, I feel like I'm always trying to like aspire for more and more and then I get mad. Oh, I can't be on Traders this year because I'm pregnant. And it's like, God, people in the Midwest are just happy with where they're at. You know? Go figure. Yeah. Stay that way. And they were really happy and living their life. And I don't know. I don't know. There is something like wired a little differently in my brain. I do think there are people like that here too, but yeah. I don't think so. No, you think that. We talk about this all the time.

You think, I meet people, oh, I never want to be in this spot. Then they get these big heads. You show them in a vlog once and then they're like, I have fans. And it's just like, I think everybody in LA has that desire, even if they don't say it. We talked about it, because how many people you meet that are from LA? There's not that many.

You know more because you grew up here. But everyone you meet, a waiter in a place, and they moved here to be an actor, to have a singer or something. The transplants. But even if they don't say that, even if they don't know they want that, you give them a little taste. And I've had it happen with so many people in my life. They get big heads. They get this. And there's nothing wrong with it, of course, obviously.

We all want like a little attention. But it's just always funny when people are like, no, I would never want that life. I would never want attention. I would never want this. And then they like – they become – they have a little taste of stardom. It happened at Cheesecake Factory once. I put a waiter in my vlog and he like – he quit his job at Cheesecake Factory. He was like literally – and he's like, we should vlog more.

We should do this. I'm like, oh my God, I am so sorry that I ever put you in that vlog because he like quit his job to like tour with his band. Maybe he did well. I don't remember. If you guys remember, it was back in like 2012. I think his name was Kyle. And maybe he has a big band now. I don't know. But I remember him quitting because everyone just thought he was like so hot. And I think back then I was like, look at my hot cheesecake factory waiter, whatever. He was in Marina Del Rey. And I guess he got followers. And then he just like quit his job to like go be a rock star. Which again is good.

But, you know, he was a lesser example. Sometimes I've had friends where they just love it. And I think that's all of LA. But do you know – I guess you said you know some people that aren't. I mean like – yeah. I think because I just know people who are just from here and have like normal jobs. Like my brother is very happy just working on the bus ways you know yeah he has no desire you think solving crime you know oh yeah

yeah true yeah he's right that is true solves local crimes that's true that's okay yeah yeah your brother's like a local hero he's like let me investigate this you're right you're right um but yeah i do think probably a transplant. Like if you move to LA, there's probably obviously some kind of ambition to that. You just don't move for nothing. I agree. Yeah. I thought this was kind of interesting.

There was a TikToker who was once on Too Hot to Handle and The Perfect Match. I guess this is a very reality show theme day. Francesca Farago. She was on those shows now. Oh, I love her. Oh, you do love her. Yes, I follow her on Sully. Well, did you see her Snap story?

No, I'm not on Snap. I'm not either, but it got reposted everywhere. I haven't seen. She went on Snap to talk about how she was offered money to make an anti-hayley bieber video t that was she showed receipts was she like this is the email no she didn't show receipts she said she could but she said she did say she sent them to hayley though which i think was yeah just so you know girl just so you know girl she's a girl's girl love yeah um she said that um kind of you talked about this a little bit before how like

companies that have like a song or a sound that they want to promote they reach out to pay you to use the sound somehow so she said that i couldn't find the trend that she was talking about i did look for it maybe you've seen it but there is a trend where um everyone calls themselves a hayley bieber because they stalked their man and how they got them um oh that sounds very real yeah i've seen that meme a lot i haven't seen the specific trend but um a company did offer to pay her to do that trend so to make a tiktok about being the hayley bieber and like stalking the man and she said even though it was meant to be like a funny meme she said it it seemed kind of mean to her yeah and she wasn't comfortable with being

paid to do that so she went on her snap and said sometimes me and jesse get paid to do a trend on tiktok the person who started the trend or the person who owns the song that's on the trend they'll pay creators to do it um she said someone is paying creators to do the trend of making fun of hayley bieber and i think that is so mean they offered me a decent amount of money to do it and i was like no even if it's funny light-hearted whatever it's still low-key not maybe i'm just being dramatic but she's a new mom it's so mean to have this much hate on her and i'm like that's so fierce yeah there's only sound promos where i'm like i don't know this doesn't seem like my vibe like because they want you to do the exact like trend yeah so i never got that one that's interesting

who's i wonder but she should say who sent it. I know. Me too. I'm curious. That's like who the company is. I'm sure it's like, you know, not whoever is directly behind it. I'm sure they,

whoever wants that out there paid a company to go and try to promote it or whatever. But even so, it's always from like a universal music. It's always from like some music company. Yeah. So it's kind of odd. That's why I was trying to find the exact trend to see like what the sound was, you know?

And you didn't see, you didn't find it? I couldn't find the exact trend because I've seen the meme and I've seen people do variations of it, but I've always seen like different random sounds. Yeah. Because obviously if it's like an official sound from like a label or something,

then that's like very telling. But yeah, I couldn't find the exact one that she was saying. We should start a hate campaign though. It's not like she's in a movie or something you know it's not like lively just i know because i don't i mean granted it is one of those things where it all like a wave of hate came out of nowhere with that like youtube um quote-unquote documentary um that was up for a long time that suddenly got viral on tiktok so it is interesting the timing of it all.

I think it's more like, let's say you have a song that you want to promote. Hire a PR company. They come up with an idea that they think will go viral. And that was the idea. An awful idea. Oh, I see. You're saying maybe the person that had the song. Because this is the company in between the song and the creators paying creators to promote the song.

So knowing it'll get views if you say Hailey Bieber. That's what they came up with. Okay, so maybe it's not a smear campaign against her. Maybe the song person was just like, well, this is a viral bitch. Let's take advantage of the Hailey hate. That does make more sense. Because it is like, so who would be motivated to that extent? You know, like, because a lot of the, I feel like a lot of the hate is kind of just fueled by the Stan Wars of like Selena, Justin, Hailey, you know? Yeah.

So to go to that extent is kind of insane. Well, I, we were not paid. You would turn it down. We had like a three week, yeah, no, he posted her today. And I was like, I was the first comment, adorable. Love it. You know what I mean? Like, I love their love. I love that he's supporting her and i think that's great that's all that matters that's the best is like when everyone's coming down on you but then your husband's like let me just post a solo shot of my wife and even when i was thinking

um this is so like stale tea at this point but remember when he like posted like irreplaceable was a song and to um to like a photo dump of hayley or whatever and everyone's like he's trying to shade her i honestly and i kind of said it i think he just thought of a word to describe hayley and was like she's irreplaceable and i think he just was the song shady everyone thought it was like shade because don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable. To the left, to the left. Everything you own. To the box to the left.

But yeah, I think he just looked up like an adjective and went with it, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's just, I think I'm so accustomed to how. Maybe he's just not good at social media. Yeah, I'm so accustomed to how Trisha uses social media that it's so normal to me. We're on the same wavelength. Yeah, it's just liking things randomly and not really paying all that much attention that was me today yeah where we can transition to our next one that literally was like liking comments I did the Michaela

apology and I was liking comments like Oscar was the one being mean and then I unliked it because I was like oh no because you know I just go down I'm like yep yep yep and then I saw a couple and I was like oh let me unlike that one you know what I mean because I just go down I'm like if someone leaves a comment I love it I try to read it i read quickly so i just look yeah the speed reading yeah that's for sure that's why and then i'll see a comment like okay let me not so she was about you sometimes i see oscar i'm something like you know they're talking about oscar but then if it's like something shady i was like okay yeah but honestly i would kind of agree with the comments to be honest because obviously michaela has spoke out not loving the take from the podcast and

normally i wouldn't care if i like if i um believed what i was saying or like agreed with because obviously Michaela has spoke out not loving the take from the podcast. And normally, I wouldn't care if I like, if I believed what I was saying, or like agreed with myself in past tense. But I did go back to see it because I was like, damn, what did I really say? To be honest? Yeah. And honestly, I think Michaela was pretty valid. I think I my point I still kind of agree with, you know, I think I was just trying say that Mikaela is known for being like the ultimate influencer and she does have the knack for being able to sell the hell out of a product so I think it was just a little distracting maybe to have you know do a such a confessional and honest style video as a get ready with me with and obviously that's her style and I get that I'm just saying maybe that was a little bit distracting and also I think my second point was you know maybe it was a little intense

to say everyone who's commenting on it there's a special place in hell for them because you know as a content creator and you did kind of play into the speculation a little bit but granted there is a big subsection of that that's not constructive criticism. And it's people who just hate her. So I totally get that. And I think those are fair points. But I think my delivery was just like so intense. And like I think I came across very judgmental and insensitive. And that like was not my intent.

But I think I was just maybe I was just too emotional that day, to be honest. So I felt bad. I really did feel bad because I feel like I think because I actually don't dislike Michaela. Yeah. If I thought she was just like a mean, nasty person, I wouldn't care. But I actually have a soft spot for her. I do. Yeah.

And anytime we've ever talked about her, I feel like I usually I think she's very camp. I usually am pretty neutral on Michaela. Mascaragate kind of camp. Even when she was like, you try being an influencer for a day. I think she had, I understood her point. Delivery was a little much, but I understood her point.

Yeah. So I've never really had it out for her. But I totally understand that I came across like very mean and judgmental. And especially if she's going through such a sensitive time.

And I think I just worded it so insensitively. And in my head too, I was trying to be nice by paying her compliments. I was like, I commend her strength. The fact that she is willing to take him back with open arms is very beautiful yeah her work ethic is just so insane the fact that she was going through such a hard time was able to do it all but I also understand how because my tone was so judgmental that that

could be perceived as like passive aggressive when it really it was genuine compliments because i do think that does take a lot of strength to still be able to present and get your work done despite all that so i was genuine about those compliments so yeah the it's so funny yeah criticism you whenever you hear it from someone um never it just like never feels good and i i love mckay i've always loved mckay i've always defended and because of that, I see a lot of myself in her, where it's, like, I could tell she's very sensitive, obviously, she's very young, and, like, this is all new to her, and whenever I hear criticism about myself, like, I immediately shut off, shut down that person with what they're saying, because also, no one wants to hear it, you know what I mean,

no one wants to hear that, she doesn't want to hear any of that, which, you know, that was my advice to her, was just, like, oh, like, just don't watch anything about yourself, and granted, like, she was, like, I was, she, like, bought tickets to my Boston show, I didn't even know, that was my advice to her was just like, oh, like, just don't watch anything about yourself. And granted, like she was like, I was, she like bought tickets to my Boston show. I didn't even know, like Mikaela and I had talked a couple of times in DM. We follow each other. I really love her. I did a TikTok on that Saturday before, which I mentioned the last one where I was like, which I never talk about hot topics, but I was like, damn, like I did not know. Like it's a really good show. You don't know what someone's going through. And I had like so much, like I just couldn't even imagine what she was going through. So I think, yeah, like hearing any sort of criticism, even me, because I know she thought

I was being mean to her in the episode, which I was like, oh my God. And if she thought that, I was like, let me apologize because I wasn't trying to be either. Truly, truly, because there's like one person I like is Mikaela, you know. And in general, we try not to be mean on this show, you know. It's like we kind of see all the sides of it um but i think when you hear something you kind of only hear like the negative parts of it you know what i mean and then she did like a follow-up where she was like okay she was kind of defending me and she was so i think it was like and this morning we talked like this morning of filming of wednesday she like had dm me and she said i'm sorry i had like a a, like a little breakdown, a little.

I don't blame her. Yeah, I don't either. And that's the thing. Like it sucks when you hear anyone doing criticism, especially when everyone is. And, but then it's also like if she really is a fan of mine, which like I didn't know really to that, to that aspect of it. Like, I don't know, you know what I mean? So I didn't know she like watched that or would see it.

And when I apologized for that, she saw it. A lot of people kind of came for me for that. I the thing is is like this is what we do like I mean of course in everyday life because a lot of people like no one should be commenting on her husband except for her granted if it's like real life yes of course but it's influencer life and people talk about it we saw it on people like we talk about like people whatever and it sucks like it's like me too whenever I'm like a hot topic in something like it sucks like like hear anything. So that's why I just don't. But that is part of it. The try being an influencer for a day.

I agree with that because that is annoying. That's the only part of this job that sucks is like everything you do will be talked about no matter what. If you're not posting about Cody, if you are posting about Cody, putting Cody online. And that's with Moses too. When we like first started dating, it's like, do you stay online? Do you not? And at the beginning, I have family members, my brother, my dad, who like my dad, maybe

more so, but like don't want anything to do with social media. Like do not put me on it, whatever. And then again, when you start dating someone that's not on social media, like Cody was and Moses and all that stuff like that, it's kind of like, all right, like you have to be prepared for it. And I think like when we got a lot of hate back in 2021, like I felt so bad it wasn't fair to Moses. I was like, that's not fair to Moses

that he's getting his past dragged up and everything. But at the end of the day, it's not fair for sure. But you put them on social media. And I'm not saying that's with Mikayla. I'm just saying with our situation and just in general. Like when you put someone on social media, that's just how it is. People are just like, talk about you.

And yeah, of course, I'm closer to her. And now I would never, like me and Mikayla have talked. I'm hoping to get to meet her in Boston next week. I was like, it's an honor if I get to meet you because she's going to come to my show. And like now we're closer. It's hard when we know someone too, like Brooke or anybody, when something is a hot topic. So it's like, oh, if we don't talk about it, it's part of the podcast. It's kind of what we do. And I feel like we're pretty fair and kind in this day and age, especially about with women and all the stuff like that our angle is to never like tear them down for sure um but it is part of it and me too if I like if I'm ever talked about

or there's something happening and with this Michaela stuff I did get a lot of hate as well obviously like oh my god how could you have talked about Michaela like that and I just try to apologize when I can because like the last thing I wanted to do was like hurt her feelings like that was not my intention to me I was like it's a really big story. People picked it up. It's everywhere. And then yeah, your point of view was, no pun intended, but there is a new line out. Point of view by Michaela. I love the packaging, honestly. It's a good name actually, because then you talk about, okay, not sponsored. But I do like that I heard what you were saying. And I was like, okay, so I don't know. It's more just like a discussion. People are talking about it,

but I totally get, and I felt really bad. Oh my God, to make someone cry is like, especially like that when you're going through something and you're emotional, because like no matter how well you seem to be doing and no matter how much money you're making, like it does feel the worst, especially him being in rehab. So she has like nobody to support her. If Moses was gone and I was going through like all of this by myself, like that would be extremely hard. So, um, I felt really bad. And because I know her personally, obviously I have bias now and especially now talking to her and stuff like that. Like, but I feel like I've always had compassion. I feel like

always. And I always said that when like older influencers bully her and like, and bully in the term of like, we talked about bullying earlier, but when I think bullying is the definition of like you're constantly talking like she talked about rich lux in that in that video where she like f you rich lux because he really does relentlessly go after mikaela for every little thing and that's why she's like and anyone who makes a video about this and blah blah like you know f you whatever that is annoying when someone's like obsessed with you and they won't stop talking about you and it's kind of one-sided. So I've always had her back when it's an older influencer just constantly coming for her. But anyway, I'm going to make a compilation of all the times I defended Mikaela because

I love her. I always think she's camp. I totally get it. I'm for her. I'm for her business, her hustle, her product placement, all that stuff like that. I think she looks great. I think she's beautiful. She has great taste in music if she's coming to my show. So I just – I really like her.

And of course, yeah, if I make anyone cry, especially if I didn't know them, like I still feel bad. Like that happened with Lauren Gray. She was on Zach Sang like a couple years ago and she's like, yeah, like Trisha was on a podcast making fun of me for hanging out with Bryce Hall. And I apologize to her because like the last thing I want to do is be mean. That was kind of in my mean era when I was being mean. But I don't want to be like mean making people cry. Again, especially like it's me. Like who am I to judge literally anybody for sharing anything or oversharing or sharing too much or too little.

Yeah, she does get crazy unnecessary hate for kind of nothing. You know what I mean? And you know, girl, like do you just keep doing you. And yeah, it sucks. It sucks. Like when you see, especially when you see someone that you and yeah it sucks it sucks like when you see especially when you see someone that you're a fan of talk about you I've been there too it's just the worst and you kind of don't forget it there's people I like love and I still see but I'm like I'll never forget that time you talked about me you know what I mean but as Wendy Williams once said I would ask you to protect my privacy but I wouldn't and she was true you know when she

got she got her husband, that scandal was crazy. I mean, at least she's real about it because you can't ask Wendy Williams to stop talking about hot topics, you know? Yeah. Am I the Wendy Williams in this situation? Yeah. Dipping and doing, you know? Period. But yeah, I think, yeah.

And there are a lot of Mikayla haters because even my apology, there was a lot of people in my apology who were like, oh, Trisha, you're such a nasty woman. And then there was a lot of people that's like, oh, well, Michaela deserves it. That didn't make me more uncomfortable than anything. Like, I didn't want it. Like, people were agreeing with me but using that as an excuse to be, like, nasty to Michaela. And I was like, no, like, this was not my intention. I am not trying to bore the Michaela hate train.

I bought a ticket by accident. Like, let me get off at the next stop. Like, this is not what I wanted to be a part of. Yeah. Anytime I've talked about her i feel like i'm usually pretty neutral i don't agree with everything she does no but i i view her almost like you like there is an entertainment factor to her i don't think compared to the other influences out there who are just really like transphobic misogynistic

homophobic like i got bigger fish to fight yeah michaela and the mascara and the phone you know what i mean so she's doing just fine. I was looking at her reviews yesterday on TikTok. No, she is. And she's looking at like six million, seven million. Like she's killing it. Like all I was trying to say is it would have been better for me if I perceived without the distractions. Because even without seeing it, like I just saw the products first.

But I understand that's Michaela's style. And it wasn't like a personal slight against her or her situation at all. It's valid. I felt bad. I think it's valid like I said when you put something out on TikTok no matter what it is people will talk about it and analyze that TikTok has 20 million views you know what I mean and it's like a

valid thing and it sucks as an influencer that's why I told her as an influencer you can't watch stuff about yourself and it's just part of it it's part of the reason she's popular like good or bad people are talking about her it is part of it I think my responsibility though and that's why i do apologize to mckayla because i think they're like obviously you're a public figure yes criticism and stuff comes with it but i also do think a lot of people lack like sensitivity about talking about things and i feel like that's

what i lack like in the moment i thought i was conveying it the right way. But then looking back, I saw how like I came across very judgmental and insensitive, which wasn't what I wanted to put out there. So that's even like and also this is me separate because I don't even know that you talked to her at all. This is just me looking at myself and seeing how Michaela saw it. And I was like, you know what? She got me a bit. And she was right for that.

She was valid for that. Like this is me separate from you as well, to clarify. Oh, watching your Instagram story because it was after we did not love line we did like six episodes we did one just church we did six episodes not love line we were i was going from 9 a.m to 9 p.m in the tightest ponytail in the world so when we were done i was like oh did you see the mckayla thing so then i was watching it and so i was on a high from filming all day so i was like really good so in my apology i was like also before here's my purse and everyone's like why are you showing this purse before an apology because we were just talking about it we're talking about this leopard

bag and we were gonna buy it i know sorry but that's exactly you just did what you did yes exactly well first i'm not getting sponsored by ysl i paid for this bag in my sleep i was like how did i buy this bag while i was sleeping like Oh, my God. Like, I don't even remember. But, yeah. That's what I'm saying. We became very similar. Look, I'm not about the hard placement. No, because the thing is that, you know. We were trying to get our pregnancy announcement sponsored by Clear Blue. Oh, my God. They were, like, considering it, like, back and forth for so long.

And then, ultimately, like, oh, no. They said no. Because I'm like, can we announce? Should we be waiting for Clear Blue? And they're like, no. And we use Clear Blue all the time. Not sponsored. But I showed every pregnancy test of Clear Blue. And I love it every painting she has a clear blue and it was our third baby you know the thing i mean we do

this show really for the for people like michaela at that moment you know she's going through so much and this show is really an escape you know when people want to just tune in escape so when i saw her story and she was crying you know felt really bad. I was like, that was never the intention. I wanted to respond to her. But obviously you're the person that connected to her. All I'm saying is it's hard. You try to have a show that's purely

entertainment, doesn't hurt anyone. So we usually talk about people that are A-listers. They're not watching the show. Or Harry Jowsey who we just dislike. Well, Harry Jowsey's different. But sometimes there's that moment when somebody that actually does watch the show, and that's why when I saw her story, I immediately told you, like, write to her or something. I felt her. I just, it just felt bad.

I didn't want her to. Of course. And we look at it as like, you know, we analyze the influencer world. How do they operate? What do they do? We never said anything about Cody, too. We never talked about him about the relationship we're just looking at like how does influencers go about the world and what do they do no and i feel i feel awful that's all it

was because it's it's so awful because he was kind of like of course he consented but like he has plucked from like this world of like not influencing but also like being in a sober house she said when she met like all this crazy stuff so over from that to famous to your wedding publicized all this stuff so now this being publicized like I feel bad for him too obviously he said he's like you can share my story and stuff like that but it is such a weird thing social media is just a weird thing that we live in where everyone just like can view you and criticize you and I felt I felt awful when I watched her crying in her room alone I've been there and I was like holy that's like yeah and yeah very valid to feel that way because nobody wants to hear anything

about themselves good bad like or bad or criticism whatever it just doesn't ever feel good especially about something so sensitive and um like i said she seems today today her instagram story was she's about to slay all day and i texted her that too i was like girl i'm gonna slay all day too for your instagram story i said that i was like we're gonna slay the influencer she's yeah i'm gonna slay too girl and i love that about her i love that you can have a mental breakdown the night before and then the next day you're like i'm slaying all day and that is the beauty of it and i think that's great yeah that's she queen that's it period she's like i'm better today and that's totally okay and wonderful i'm looking forward to see a picture of you guys together i hope so yeah she did give me her number

as if you're comfortable sharing and get you vip side stage whatever you want to do like um yeah she's she's sweet and then i was like yeah if you have a minute. I can get you VIPs, side stage, whatever you want to do. Yeah, she's sweet. And then I was like, yeah, if you have a minute to say hi, I would be like, I was shook. I was so shook. I was like, oh my gosh, I would have never even known she was coming to the show or watching or anything. And I love her. And anyone who ever feels slighted by us on the podcast, I'm happy to be like, oh, I see it. But we try to keep it cute. I mean, if they're like awful yeah that's why especially i feel like michaela i just i don't dislike her so that's why i care if i genuinely did not think they were like a good person or if i think their intentions were bad i honestly wouldn't care to be like okay go off like if it was like i mean like gabby and clayton you know

right right so tie it back like she didn't care because she did something he did something terrible to her like i would have that energy but because i do i don't dislike mikaela yeah and i think she is in the right here that is that's kind of it but if it was harry jowsey i guess i'd be a little different obviously but maybe i don't know maybe i'd feel bad for harry jowsey too i don't know i don't know i don't think you're on his side yeah we're open we're open it'd be interesting that we'll see a

story from him that he watches just Trish crying oh my god I would feel bad I would too actually you know what Harry Jowsey

he might be going through something yeah maybe he had trauma in his past and that's why he's acting the way he does and I'm like why didn't know

that yeah treat everyone as if they have trauma in their past that's a good moral of the story yeah okay all right you guys coming up next we have our guest of honor harry daniels not jazzy i was about to say oh my god scared me for a second yeah i was like i did too i was thinking harry jazzy he's coming in with his hot takes and his latest um celeb adventures let's see who he's talking to

let's get him in here we'll be right back alright you guys back back back Harry Daniels is back we're back from our break and Harry Daniels is here with Barry wearing your Knicks are you going to the Knicks game soon my friend Mason just when we were in London

Barry's been wearing the same pajamas for like, God, like a few years now at this point. And anyway, he has worn those since he's been here. Yeah. Is this the first time you've seen him in the Knicks? Yeah. Yeah. He's been wearing the pajamas for a while. And my friend gave him a Knicks outfit.

And so, like, yeah, he's really into basketball now because of it. Love that. In his athletic era. Yeah. He wants to be like a pro athlete. How are you doing? I'm doing so good. How are you? What are you in LA for?

I, I'm like, I had to send an NDA for this. I had to come out for a filming and then Coachella's in like two days or something. Oh, you were going to Coachella. Yeah, yeah. And so I was like, there's nobody coming, like going home to New York for like a week and then flying back. It's like a six-hour flight. Have you been on tour – like tour of a lifetime?

Oh, my God. Yeah, literally. I should have had the Lifetimes tour. Me and Katy Perry. The Lifetimes with Trish tour is coming next. Yeah, I've been on the heiress tour. Are you going to be in New York next week? Yeah, I'm going to go.

You're going to Radio City? On the 15th, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Perfect. Oh, perfect. I was just going to ask you if you wanted to come. Yeah, of course.

Yay. Okay, because you are Mr. New York. So you're flying back then you're gonna come back for weekend two yeah oh wait am i coming back for weekend two wait no i'm not coming back for weekend two i'm going just weekend one and then i'm coming back here i think in like three weeks or something because i have to do another filming oh my god can you give us a hint a tv show a movie reality show it's disney it's always disney like literally it's always disney wait really do you work with disney before how do i not know this um on like certain projects because the thing with disney is they how they handle a bunch of studios kind of so it's like when i did like so it's like like timothy chalamet a complete unknown is

technically disney because it's under searchlight. And that's like a Disney subsidiary. I played the harmonica for him. Were you like in partnership for it? Okay, that one was sort of just like – that was a really strange one. I can't even lie. It was like half partnership, half not because they didn't want to go to Timothy's team because he was denying everything. I felt like he was everywhere because he did the Britney Broski. He was on your thing. It wasn't he was denying necessarily but it was

sort of more of like it was very curated by him vibes and so like they didn't want to run it by him have it be this whole thing then like day of because i happened to be before with someone where it was like i pulled up and i was there and then the person pulled up like hey are you ready to do this i don't want to do it anymore when i did something and it was like yeah so it's like you sometimes like people get like really strange with that stuff. That sucks, doesn't it? You prepare for it and then like, no. Are you preparing for anyone at Coachella?

Do you have it set up? I have. Gaga? Right. Girl, I wish. No, no. Girl, I wish. We're going to see you singing to Gaga for sure.

Mark my words. I heard. When it comes to the music, she doesn't do it. She does not do it. You have to find her. That's what I'm saying. You find people. That's what I'm saying. You find people. That's what you do.

You bombard them. I mean, like. Ambush. Right. I mean. Bombard's a bad word. It's not out of the question. Nothing's out of the question.

Because, like, last question, I knew no Katy Perry was going. And then, like, here I am posted with Katy Perry. That's what I'm saying. I think you're going to be singing. What song would you sing to Gaga? I don't know. Like, I love Alejandro. That's, like, one of my favorite Gaga songs.

Very random. You wouldn't even do a new one. Like, Abracadabra. Okay, like my. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Oh, no. I'd probably, like I love Alejandro that's like one of my favorite Gaga songs very random you wouldn't even do a new one like Abracadabra okay like my oh yeah that's a good one oh no I'd probably like Shallow

my friend told me this really funny thing they're like you know if you sing to Gaga she's like you're so brave and I'm like yeah you're so brave is the best one

she's like you're so brave I love that thank you little monster awesome yeah she would kind of live for you I think I think she would

like love you you gotta find a way to get to her. I know. I met her once when I was, like, 14, but, like, for two seconds. And she loved you? Yeah. I was like, can I have a picture? And she just stood there.

I was like. Where were you, though? Like, what's the context? The airport? No, it was, like, literally outside of, like, a talk show or something. Oh, interesting. I remember a star is born. I remember that.

Yeah. You think that she'd be more prepared for? I'm, like, at an airport, so I'm always just, like, because I'm always, like, rushing to something. So I thought, but she should be prepared for it. Well, do people, that, yeah. You think that she'd be more prepared for? I'm like that at airports. I'm always just like, because I'm always like rushing to something so my thought, but she should be prepared for it. Well, do people like,

no, she was prepared. She was just like literally, I mean like I get her. It's like sometimes when people, do people ever come up to you and you're like, I wish you would just take a photo

and walk away or like no. Oh, wait, as opposed to what? Like as opposed to like literally sitting and having like a 20 minute conversation. Oh, for sure. Like airports

because you're always like rushing and so I'm always just like, let's take a photo or I have my friend, but I mean, I'm not Lady Gaga. Like I think if I was on a plane, bus, another plane, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. And then it's a different story. I feel like with her, it's probably like really heavy because people who are like really into her, like they have like a lot of like emotional stories.

So can you imagine like every five seconds, like someone comes up to you and you're like, and I was going through my divorce when I heard manicure and that's what's like stopped me from yeah like i do love those stories like i had a meet and greet as i was i love him in general but yeah rushing through an airport with kids could be a little right no like for sure like that but like and like also it's just like a lot of like wear and tear i think on like your spirit like do you remember when justin bieber canceled all those meet and greets like a few years ago oh yeah he canceled all these meet and greets a few years ago and he's like it's too heavy on like my spirit because people would probably walk into the meet and greet like imagine like literally you have to stand there for 45 minutes and every five seconds

someone comes up to you i was gonna myself but then i listened to like baby and i like i didn't so i love it like i love it because i'm like oh that's like so no like same but i'm just like for a lot of people i understand why it would be like taxing yeah some people say that some people I think Chapel she stopped doing meet and greets for that reason too

because it was like it was too much for her emotionally which I get I think a trauma dump for sure but when people trauma dump me

with my kids or something I'll be like who was that like a friend because it's like they just spare their whole life story

and then it's just like okay it's a friend I don't mind a trauma dump and people always apologize ahead of time like sorry for this trauma dump and I'm like it's okay I like the trauma dumps because like okay at that

point i'm like okay like you're like opening up you're having a conversation like i'm here for it i want to hear what you have to say vibes yeah but like i'm awful at small talk like madeline is my sister but she's also my manager and a huge part of her job is having conversations for me because like i'm actually capable of having conversations you need to just come with me to have conversations with me i'm not great at conversations either but i'm a trauma dumper so i love a trauma dumper back so i can understand i'm like yes get it all up right i trauma dump on anyone we're gonna you know any mean greet we go to i'm gonna trauma dump for sure my i'm trying to think what are my trauma dumps it's like kind of really random stuff like her like h.e.r like i love her music and she just

followed me on instagram and like i have to like stop myself from dming her and being like you don't know this but in 2021 i was in a situation ship and i listened to your self-titled album every day it's like girl what please they would love though no people love you i told you like bowen yang loves you like people like they actually do love you they think you're like iconic so yeah i think you're you're the one who's iconic oh my god stop we're kind of icons together right no when i was at wicked i I literally kept going to these people I'm like you don't know this but Trisha Paytas is over there and they're like oh I was like I was like guys

I literally was like guys I was like cause like there's so many people I know who I know love you I was like Trisha's like right there I'm dead thank you for that no when I came up to you with Leve I literally came up I was like I literally walked up and was like Leve Trisha's right there I was like you need to go say hi. Oh, my gosh.

When was that? The Wicked? Yeah, Wicked. I was like, because I know she loves you. Yeah, yeah. That was exciting. Like, yes. I was like, yeah, like she has to.

Thank you, by the way, for always pitching us to everybody. We haven't heard back from Benny Blanco. He pitches too. I'll text him. I'll send him a text. I love that you text him. That one was weird because it was like I was at a Coachella party and I've never been lactose intolerant before. Like I've never had an issue with lactose.

And anyway, I kept – they had these like ice cream bars and I kept eating the ice cream bars and he stops me and he's like, Harry, this is our first time meeting by the way. He's like, you're going to – everywhere. Randy Blanco said that. The first thing he said to you. No, we'd spoken for like two minutes prior. And so like he sees me and he stops me because I keep getting ice cream bars. I'm like, these are too good. And he's like, you're going to shit everywhere.

I was like, that's never been a problem. He's a girl's girl. Right. Did he know you were lactose? I wasn't lactose until that day. And so anyway. Oh, he manifested it for you. Yeah.

That night I was like, yo, what the fuck? When I got back to my Airbnb. And so then every time I'd have like ice cream after that, like, oh my God. Like it was like, it triggered me so bad. Benny knew. Yeah. And so I DM'd him months later and I was like, I hope you know you cursed me that day. And he said?

He was like, oh, we started DMing and stuff. And then like, yeah, we became like friendly. We have a little friendship with him. Right. Yeah. I have to introduce him to Barry. Never met before. Maybe you'll see him at Coachella. Oh yeah, for sure. Oh my God. I i have to introduce him to barry never met before maybe you'll see my coachella oh yeah for sure oh my god i actually literally almost brought him to

coachella i was like if he gets dusty like dustier than he is you can clean them right okay you know the problem is a lot of his fur is like matted now because it's been like 14 years and it's like yeah so he's like been through a lot poor barry he looks great though right um what other icons have you seen or what have you been doing you've been filming for disney oh my gosh you know what actually happened i literally i met with my agents about this yesterday oh my gosh i literally what are your agents you don't have to say i'm out loud but like i'm with uta i'm with um were you always with them congrats oh yeah i've been with uta for like the last year because you know what the thing is when i actually saw when i signed to like all the agencies because like i've told you about this my end goal was always music like i like i do

not give a f***ing influencer like that's the thing that's why i feel like i like i don't have that like you have a relationship with your audience that like i i just don't have in the sense of like i don't talk to like the internet but they would love to hear you you should talk more they love when you're on here like people love to hear you talk i know you know what the thing is i think it's more of like when you start talking here. Like, people love to hear you talk. I know. You know what the thing is? I think it's more of, like, when you start talking to the internet, people will start having unrealistic expectations of you. Like, does that ever happen to you? It's, like, people in your comments are, like, holding you to a standard that, like, is uncomfortable

for you. We were talking about that right before you came in was, like, the Mikaela. Her recent – do you know Mikaela on TikTok? Yeah. Yeah. People really hold her to a very high standard. Like, well, you're an influencer, so this is what you should get. You should expect.

Right. And, like, for me, for me i just like i struggle with that like i like when i like started doing all this like my biggest inspiration was like dualipa this is like one of my biggest inspirations and she's like known for like she doesn't she doesn't give you like she won't give you that interpersonal relationship but she'll give you like she'd rather work like three times harder to get to the same destination as someone who like will be like hey hey, God, like my agent was telling me like you should start vlogging. I was like, girl, because no one wants to see me go to Coachella. Hey, guys, I'm walking around the artist village right now. Oh, my God. Is that Katy Perry?

I just feel like for me, it's like one of those things where I'm like, I like to come on here and like talk about it. But then like I like I need that separation because it's like I I'm a really anxious person as well. And so like I need it to be like on certain terms as well. So it's like I would rather share things and have it come out in the music. So I was talking to you about that. Like you need to start documenting that process so people know it exists. So like that's literally been like my entire brain for like the last like literally since like the top of the year because I finally had time off at the end of the year because like I'm constantly like do you guys remember last year? I was literally every five seconds I was here in New York. Yeah.

And so like I finally had time where I was in one place for more than like a week. And so I literally just like I like lived in the studio for like a few months. And so I like did a bunch of stuff and now I have to like finish it. But I had a meeting with my agents about it because they're like you should, I gave them the timeline because something's supposed to come out in like July. But now I'm like, I don't know. So I'm like, because they're like, you need to polish everything. Because like I look at like someone like Addison Rae who like came from the same like origins. Right.

And I'm like, okay, well, it's like people took it serious because it was really good. Like it was the full package. She's working with like Max Martin. Right. Yeah. Or like even like, like Alex Warren. It's like, it's really good. God, I don't know. He's going to be on Jimmy Fallon tonight. I know. I was like, Martin. Right. Yeah. Or like even like Alex Warren. It's like it's really good. God, I don't know.

He's going to be on Jimmy Fallon tonight. I know. I was like wow. It's nuts. Oh my God. Love is Blind, Jimmy Fallon, Arenas. Right. Yeah.

And it's like because it's like it's that. It was really good. Yeah. So like they literally were like don't come unless you're going to have a holiday basically. Well, he also posts 5,000 times a day of his song which I don't think is a bad thing. Right. But maybe he just – every Alex Warren one is just like – you know, you just hear hear over and over again and it's so good i love it yeah so you have to just post your song over but you haven't you haven't released any no i released like one song and it

was like literally when i was with my old pr firm and like literally the promo like i literally only released because everyone around me was like you need to release something and then it was like so horrible the song wasn't even bad it was just like one of those things where like i like i just like i when you put me against like a timeline it's like i'm gonna get stressed and i'm like gonna procrastinate to the last minute and then it's gonna come like really well we talked did we talk about this on hot topics or we're talking about it where it's like sometimes like the push like the pr around a song we're talking about this oh yeah like britney broski because she kind of just like surprise released but like, didn't do too much, like, promo around it.

You need, like, a hype. You need to, like, hype it and go on tours and promote it and stuff like that. I think maybe you didn't do that enough because I didn't see it. Yeah, like, literally no one saw it. I was, like, it's out. Bye. Because, like, one of my favorite people in the world is Ice Space. Like, I've talked about this a million times.

We love her, too. Yeah, she's great. Every time she drops, it's, like, it's out. Bye. And I'm, like, queen. That love her. We love her too. Yeah, she's great. Every time she drops, it's like, it's out, bye. And I'm like, queen. That's it, one time. Yeah, I'm like,

I get her, but now I'm like, well, babe, that doesn't work for you. You have to actually put in the work. I put up one clip and I'm like, there, see it's there.

You know the bubbly? Yeah, it's like, you'll see it or you won't. Right, because I'm like, I think one of those people was like, even when I started doing

the whole Can I Sing for You series, I was so scared of being cringed that i was like if i bet if i'm so cringe that it's like the inverse then it's like i'm like it's like anti-cringe almost it's like so scared you should lean into your cringe i mean because your content is that and mine is too you know what i mean the cringe factor is what people like about you yeah i mean that's what i'm like learning now it's like i almost like i've started to view it as like a show in the same way i was like when like i was thinking about this the other day i'm like well selena gomez is really popular and like she came from a show like technically like my tiktok presence is no different than like a show that like she put on like does this make sense yeah like can i sing for you is my where there's a waverly place

are you gonna say did you are you asking now can you sing it or you're asking her no wait what that's the name of a show like what is this place is her show but you said can i sing Montana, guys. Are you going to sing? Are you asking now? Can you sing it? Or are you asking her? No. Wait, what? That's the name of a show. Like, what is the name of the place? It's her show. But you said, can I sing for you? What is the name of the show? Can I sing for you is my Wizards of Waverly place.

Can I sing for you is the name of your show. Yeah, because a lot of times people come up to me like, are you the guy that sings people on TikTok? Like, guy who sings people on TikTok is my show. Oh, got it. I thought, can I sing for you is your show? It's like- You have two titles? Lose title. Okay. The guy that

sings for you or Can I Sing For You is the name of your show. Yeah, like TikTok singer. I was just asking, Can I Sing For You? I was like, you can if you want. Go for it. What's the Wizards of Waverly Place theme song? Well, you know, everything's gonna be a breeze. Wait, you don't know the words? Yes, please.

Everything is not what it seems and you can get all you want in your wildest dreams. Everything is not. Do you know the words? I just know it. Dun, dun, dun. I don't know. Yeah. This is like what it is.

This is like, right. This is like, literally, this is like when I came on and we didn't know who was on Mount Rushmore. Oh, my God. Did we talk about that? I have no idea it's literally the example madeline because madeline helps like anytime i do something with anyone i'm like literally i'm like you should go on the trisha paytas podcast yeah what happened why don't how come it's not happening what do they say are they just like no they're like what

was happening a lot of times it goes through like teams and channels and stuff and it's really no no it's like sometimes it's like pitches don't even get to the person like i literally remember oh my god this happened to me recently i did a video with someone and they were saying like we met up and i was like excited to see them blah blah blah and anyway like they basically were saying like you know it's so funny that like we ran into each other because i literally told my label I wanted to do something with you. And I was just in New York. And it just, like, did not happen. Like, they didn't contact you at all.

I was like, nope. Right, right. That does happen a lot. It's like it literally doesn't even make it to, like, the person to, like, sit or approve it. Like, that's the thing. It's like in my own career, like, I try to be very hands-on with certain things. But, like, you have someone, like, like, when I did my thing with Tate McRae, it was, like, legit. Like, she herself, like, I literally don't know Tate McRae. I've spoken to her, like, maybe once. And once and like that was the day I spoke to her.

And like I like asked her like do you want to like do a video because like it was like a whole year long chase with that girl. Like not even her. It was her team. Like oh my gosh. And anyway, I'm like oh do you want to do it? And her manager's like no, no, no, not right now, not right now. Like that man is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that man is like legit crazy. Who said that that how do you know she said that or you're just assuming no like i saw the vid like it's like on video like it's on tape like

i posted this it's like literally it's like i'm like do you want to do it now and then she's like uh she looks at her manager and he's like no no no not right now did you post it i posted it yeah i didn't care i was like all right well i was like well then that's the video i guess that man is crazy that's kind of iconic because like for a's because, like, for a year, they were, like, edging me with it. They were like, yeah, like, are you going to be here at this time? And so then every time we'd be in the same city, I'd be like, they'd go. So I'd be like, hey, I'm in the same city. Like, do you guys want to do something?

Right, right, right. Because the thing is, with someone like that, it's like, it's very hyper curated, where it's like, not in a bad way. But it's worth it. You got a video with her, so it's kind of worth it. Well, it was like, it wasn't obviously the video that, like, I wanted, but it's like, who cares? It's like, whatever.

You got a video. Right, exactly. It's like, let me count my it was, like, it wasn't obviously the video that, like, I wanted, but it's, like, who cares? It's, like, whatever. You got a video. Right, exactly. It's, like, let me count my blessings. But it's, like, yeah, no, like, she herself is fine. It's, like, her, like, team is, like, very. It's always, yeah. Yeah. Always the team around.

Like, yeah. So it's, like, that tends to be, like, the biggest problem a lot of time with pitching Are you going to be at a house this weekend? At Coachella? Okay, what happened was I have a brand deal with Revolve, and so they got me a hotel room. Thank you. I'm really excited for it. They got me a hotel room, you I'm really excited for it they got me a hotel room but the thing is whenever I go to Coachella I'm literally one of those people that can't be alone but for like more than five minutes

well I can be alone but the problem is like I'd love to be alone I love to be alone too but the problem is like I sit on my phone for like 20 hours like when I was in London recently like Madeline literally had to kept she had to keep telling people like if we don't make him do things he's not gonna to leave his room. And, like, that's. Oh, I see. So you need someone to, like, stimulate you to get you out. I get that.

Yeah. And so, like, the thing is, like. What were you in London for? I was supposed to go sing. Okay, this was never, like, a guaranteed thing. But it was, like, one of those things, like, I was going to go sing to the Pope. But then, like, he got really sick. What?

And, like, yeah, we canceled it. How were you going to get there? That's insane. that's insane that's what are you gonna sing to the pope jesus and i'm not kidding i'm not kidding i would have we were gonna surprise you with it and then like he started getting really sick and so the whole thing got like kind of canceled because like i it would have been a really poor taste to go up to the pope when he's like on his like like on his deathbed you know what I mean and start singing I think he's recovered no did you see the recent photo of him yeah I'm not up with it right someone sent it to me and he's not he's like yeah he's not doing great but like yeah we were gonna try and do something with the pope and then like it just didn't really so cute right it didn't it didn't pan out that's

okay I love the thoughts yeah the idea always with you because you always push in group chat you're always like okay i'm gonna get you with this person was like the thought does count you know what i mean the fact that you pitch is so hard i mean the thing is it's like once you have one point of contact it's kind of the rest becomes easy because like everyone knows everyone kind of vibe so it's like that is one thing i've learned it's like girl if i ever need to get a hold of instagram like someone told me instagram is the linkedin of the entertainment industry and it's kind of vibe so it's like that is one thing i've learned it's like girl if i ever need to get a hold of instagram like someone told me instagram is the linkedin of the entertainment industry and it's kind of true like do y'all use linkedin or do you use instagram to like connect

with people i used to use linkedin but these days more instagram yeah yeah instagram for me too use linkedin no i don't have a linkedin who has linkedin well i guess oscar has linkedin people who actually, you know, work. Okay, like people who work outside. Outside, yeah. LinkedIn is like, no, like people who work corporate jobs, like we're independent contractors. So it's like we're our own bosses. But it's like. 1099.

Right. Girl, oh my God. I literally sat, I literally had to cancel like everything the last two days so I could sit and do my taxes. That's coming up. Do you compile your expenses? Like when you put together your expenses, do you do it like throughout the year your expenses like um like when you put together your expenses do you do it like throughout the year or do you just like literally sit there and do it i have a bookkeeper that does every month for me oh period spending oh yeah i know i like

legit girl i need you to bookkeeper because like i legit just like have to i just do it myself i'm like and this was an expense that's insane i have probably like thousands of transactions a month that'd be insane to do it myself yeah that's why it took me two days to sit there and just like have to put it together. Oh, good for you for doing that. It's like a lot though. Like it is a lot. I've been doing it since I was like 16 because I had an eBay business when I was 16. Oh, are we selling?

Yeah. This is so funny. I talked about this on my canceled podcast episode that never made it to air. It was, like, it was, like, legit such, like, a horrible episode. Like, we talked about nothing. You just never aired it? Yeah, like, I legit, like, Tana was, like, yeah. Because, like, we were talking about things.

And then we were, like, oh. And then I, like, literally was, like, honestly. I was literally just, like, watching it at the footage. And I was, like, honestly, the episode definitely sucked. Because we, like, spent two hours. You watched it? No, I lived it. And it was, like, we spent two hours talking about, a whole lot of nothing and so like i literally told her i was

like because like the thing is too like i had just gotten media training like two weeks prior and like the whole point of media training is like they teach you how to answer things concisely and how to like keep a conversation flowing and blah blah blah and like girl the media training went out the window for that episode like we literally talk about anything because like i went on there to promote like that song that had come out and then like literally we did not talk about it's like oh yeah i put out a song guys oh okay cool so what did you think about like this and i was like um yeah and like we literally just didn't steer it at all like wait that's so odd you talk so much i can't imagine you not having control over conversation well it wasn't even like the thing is it's like more so

so you're not stumbling over your words vibes like i feel like that's what people don't understand about media training it's not where it's like they teach you how to answer a question like yeah they teach you how to answer a question but in a concise way so it's like it's up to you to put the answer together but it's not like i don't think it's like a bad yeah like everyone's like this person like the media training went out the window like no it didn't oh it didn't ever went on their patreon or anything the cancel episode? Oh, I told them they could put it on Patreon. And then, like, I don't know what happened.

But, like, I honestly don't really, like. Yeah, but we were talking about. Wait, what was I talking about? When you went on Canceled, you were telling this story. Oh, my God, yes. I was talking about this on Canceled. Yes, I remember this. See, this is, like, this is literally what happened with Canceled.

That's why the episode was so bad. That was fine. In the same way. I can't remember either what I'm about to say. Yeah, so I went on canceled and I was trying, I basically, the way I was paying my bills and like, this is literally how I finance

to like do everything for like five years until I was actually making money from like social media stuff. I basically like would go to Urban Outfitters and I would go to the bargain bin and I would buy all the vinyls that were $4.99

and then I'd put them on eBay for like $30 wholesale. So smart. Because the thing is like, especially during COVID COVID like you couldn't go out like this was so weird. The first thing that opened during COVID like legit wasn't restaurants. It was literally Urban Outfitters. Love that.

They were on it. They're like we don't care. Yeah. Like legit. Hey, Vanessa Hudgens. Yeah. Literally. That does fit the vibe.

Like it was like two months into COVID and Urban Outfitters was open. I was like oh wow. They're like we're back. Right. But because like no more shopping store. Everything was so cheap. So, like, I would legit go and buy, like, Serena Carpenter album for $4. And I put it on eBay for $30.

Wow. And, like, when you're 16, $25, like, 10 times a day is, like, $250. So, it's, like. Yeah. That's smart. I thought I was literally rich. And that's when you started your taxes was. No, like, yeah.

Because I got to the point where, like, I have to report to the IRS. Wow. You were making that much. Yeah. I got to that point because it was, like, that's how I was, how i was like making money so now urban will never discount anything to 4.99 because like enough people i think they caught on to like enough people started doing it yeah yeah because now there's like a whole community of resellers on like discord it's like a whole thing wow but it's like yeah people used to like really go to like urban and like bargain bin dive

because the thing is like i wasn't gonna like because the thing is it's like i was never gonna be obnoxious with it and put something up at, like, $500 that I got for, like, legit $4. But I'm, like, okay, like, I put it up for $30. It's, like. Yeah, the value is there. People want to see it. Right. And I was, like, it's, like, a vinyl.

It's not, like, that's the thing. It's, like, I hate when people go to, like, a thrift store and they, like, jack up the prices. Like, that's screwed up because, like, thrift stores are for people who, like, can't. Oh, right. You know what I mean? But it's, like, okay, like, a vinyl is a luxury. Like, going, like, vinyl is a luxury like going like girl you're not going to urban outfitters to like you know what i mean because like oh you're on a

budget yeah but you're smart that's what people do the collectors they find the cheap ones and sell for what it's worth yeah i guess like i always say when people are doing a small business you should like niche down like even like because in any business you should always niche down because like the thing is when you're doing something that's like mass marketable it's like there's no heart and soul to it like even like with my content like especially when i was first doing it like i would always try to reference something that was like really obscure that like only like the true core fans would get because like that's who i was targeting it wasn't like random people because like you tell someone like sabrina

carpenter and like the sabrina carpenter i met a year that was the first video i ever did and so the sabrina carpenter i met in 2022 was so much different from like 2023 because like the video i did with her in 2022 was like that became lore for me to reference that so it was like it became self-referential so it was like yeah and have you met her recently no i went to her tour though in um london it was a really good show recently like this yeah when i was in london that was one of the things I did and like the thing is like I'm honestly like when it comes to arena tours I'm really skeptical just because I'm like a lot of the problems I have with people who go on arena tours now this isn't even about anyone it's like more so it's just people will do tours with the intent of making it feel like an arena tour but rather than make like making a spectacle to feel like a spectacle rather than it just inherently being a spectacle. Like, when Miley Cyrus came out riding down her, like, slide that was, like, supposed to be her tongue.

Like, that's a spectacle. Like, because it's a spectacle. Right. Not because they're trying to do something shocking. And so, like, the thing I like. You think that Sabrina was more of a spectacle trying to be a spectacle? No, I thought it was, like, a spectacle. Like, I thought she did a good job.

It was, like, a really well put together show. Just on its own. It flowed well. It wasn't too long. I thought it was, like, a really great show. Oh, you liked that. Because some people criticized her for only was like a really well put together show. It flowed well. It wasn't too long. I thought it was like a really great show. Oh, you liked that because some people criticized her for only having like an hour 10 show.

That's what I like because I mean the thing is like she's not going to do the Disney songs and so it's like what's that going to leave her with like album cuts? It's like, especially in the UK,

like it's such a different culture there. Like I think for her, like it was a really great show. I think it was short and sweet. Ha ha. That's what she advertises. Right. Like it worked really well. I thought it was just like in out, like it was a really great show. I think it was short and sweet. That's what she advertises. Right. It worked really well, I thought.

It was just in and out. It was straight to the point. I don't like when there's filler in shows, I feel like. That's mine. Hour 10 show. Airs at Trish Tour. Short and sweet. No opener.

Wait. Okay. This is my hottest take. I'm someone who shows up. I always try to find out when the artist goes on stage because unless it's the opener or someone I actually previously care about, I won't show up. Oh, that's find out when the artist goes on stage because unless it's the opener or someone I actually previously care about, I won't show up. Oh, that's not a hot take.

We talked about it here. I didn't know there was openers at shows. I went to shows and I'm like, who's this person on at 7 o'clock? Legit. And they don't come on until 9. Now I know that one going to a show. But I was like, damn, I really was sitting there

like an hour before the opener. Then the opener came. And I'm like, yeah, I don't think it's a hot take. That's why I don't have openers. I'm like, people want to come see Trish, you know? No, like literally, yeah. Like I don't love going to a show when there's an opener. Unless it's someone don't think it's a hot take it's why i don't have openers i'm like people want to come see trish you know no like literally yeah like i i don't love going to a show and there's an opener unless it's someone who i think is like really cool like rebecca black yeah like i love rebecca black i would go to the katie pierre lifetimes just for her right like yeah i think

like i'm gonna go to that tour maybe i don't know oh i thought you i thought you were like oh i can't say it's like literally one of those things where it's like, sometimes like literally things just pop up in my, like, there's like a day and I'm like, I want to go to this. Like, literally, it's like if I want, like, when the Georgia Smith shows happen, I love Georgia Smith. And like, she was having no idea. I know, like, okay, I feel you. It's just one R&B singer. And anyway, she played like the night I came back from London. I was literally just like, eh, I'll see what I feel like doing when i land i was tired so i didn't go so it's like literally one of

those things it's like it literally depends on like my vibe because i don't want to like put in the request for tickets or i don't want to buy the ticket i don't want it to be a whole thing and then like oh he doesn't even feel like going because like rather than that could have gone to someone who actually cared do you have connections at these venues that you get to see the artists like backstage it really goes through like their teams or their labels. So it's like when I did Wallows, it was sort of like, okay, I had sang to Dylan. We talked about you, by the way. Dylan who? Dylan Manette.

When I was backstage with Wallows, I talked to them about you. Wow, what did he say? Do you know Dylan Manette? No. You mentioned him. You got him confused with Dylan O'Brien. Yeah, he was one of 13 Reasons Why. He played Clay Jensen. Oh, love. Yeah, he's in a band now. Okay, what did he say? He loves you. Like, he likes you. What did you say? How did you

get brought up? Because I've told you every time I meet anyone it's on You Should Go on the Trisha Paytas podcast. This is why I love you. That's crazy. Like, every time. But I was... That's why that guy called you crazy. He was like, get away from this person. Came away from Tate McCray. I was like, no, that was like, he was scary. I was like, he didn't want to hear the pitch.

That was crazy. I, though with that it was like okay I met Dylan at Coachella and like I did a video with him and then like people in the comments were like dogpiling his girlfriend he's like so he reached out he's like hey like I need you to take this down I was like yeah of course because like the videos have to be like feel good they're supposed to be fun they're supposed to be like fun like cringy you What happened to the – what was the girlfriend doing? She walked past because she, like, didn't know that, like, she was being filmed by. Like, she didn't know what was going on. And so she just kept walking or she didn't want to be in the video. Like, it doesn't really – she just – whatever.

She kept walking. It was like – people in the club was like, that nasty bitch, blah, blah, blah. And, like, girl, he was like, whoa. Because, like, they just started dating, too. It was a new relationship. It was like – Oh, good for him. Yeah.

So he was like – Staying up for his girl. Yes, he was up for her. And I was like, yeah, of course. And so then months later I ran into brayden who's another member of the band at like tenants of the trees this one bar i go to a lot out here and anyway um we just like became friends there like we were like talking we became friends and then a few months later they were playing in my hometown and like not my hometown like and

i just call long island general my hometown because that's where i'm from um but yeah so they were playing in long island i was like oh you guys are playing in long island i have to go and so then when they're like all right come hang out after wow so it was like you're like befriending all these people too so like that was like an instance where it's like that's where it's like okay like you just ask the artist directly and then people love you backstage what's your biggest manifestation for 2025 oh my god wait you know what's so funny rihanna's doing okay wait my biggest manifestation for 2025 is i actually put out the music and then it's like actually gonna be like a thing and it'll be good and like yeah yeah okay what's Rihanna doing Rihanna's doing the Smurfs movie and I really want to meet her like

on the press run for the Smurfs movie what is it a new one yeah she's playing Smurfette oh she's Katy Perry's nachos yeah she's Smurfette I wonder what happened I thought Donna Nevada was Smurfette at one point too damn they're changing it around yeah it's gonna be good it's a pop girl right of passage to do Smurfette I love that Rihanna's like no music but I'm Donna Nevada was Smurfette at one point, too. Damn. They're changing it around. Yeah. Rihanna's going to be good. It's a pop girl rite of passage to do Smurfette. I love that. Rihanna's like, no music, but I'm going to do a Smurfette. No, she's doing music for the Smurfs movie. Yeah.

Oh, that's gagged. Oh, my God. Do you get invited to the Ariana events that influencers are going to? Okay, no. I got Ariana at Wicked, and that was the weirdest thing that has ever happened, because she knew who I was. Okay, I ran into her friend, Courtney, and she's like, we love you. I was like, the weirdest thing that has ever happened because she knew who I – okay, like, I ran into her friend Courtney and she's like, we love you. I was like, oh.

And then, like, I met her later that night and she knew exactly who I was and I was like, yeah, like, this is crazy. But you didn't get invited to the influencer event that everyone was at. Did you see? It was, like, Daz Mendoza was there. I saw that. But I was like, okay, like, one, I kind of just did it with Ariana and two, like, I would have loved to sit and have a conversation with her.

But, like, I literally definitely would have sat there. I mean, like, okay, I think about this all the time. Like, Ariana Grande, like, I would, like, would like literally like if i had to spend a day like no one could survive a day in that girl's shoes like one i feel like people are i've talked about this before with her people are always projecting their shit to ariana grande people were perfect they're projecting their divorce trauma onto her like two years ago and then like all of the like horrible stuff happened to her from like that 2017 to like 2020 stretch it's just like a lot and then people get like so weird like page neiman like 2020 stretch it's just like a lot and it's like and

then people get like so weird like Paige Neiman like you're a freak like what girl stop it because it's like okay it was one thing when you're being a person here but then you sit and you go on like make a only fans and you're like oh true I'm Ariana like girl that's weird like yeah yeah don't use the likeness for some adults content right like that's that's no and so like with that, with Ariana Grande, like, I literally probably would have sat there and, like, literally

just started crying. Like, I feel so bad for you because people are so weird to you. She probably would be very, I feel like she's, like, into trauma dumpers. I feel like she'd be empathetic to it.

Oh, for sure, but it wouldn't even be my trauma dumping. It'd be, like, me trauma dumping about her. Her trauma, yeah. She'd be like, what? I love Ariana, too.

No, I really love her. We didn't get invited either but maybe the next time no you guys were too ahead of your time I think so you're right 10 years from now we'll look back

and be like wow why aren't they at the Rem Beauty event you know honestly sometimes it's like really random things it's like when I got invited to the People's Choice Awards

I saw like Rolling Stone was talking about that recently I was like how are we still on the skies of what when I said gay son daughter on a red carpet I was like who I was like no it's so on the skies of what it's like gay son thought daughter on a red carpet i was like who i was like no it's so funny because i'm like no one but journalists

are talking about it now it's like funny they're always a little behind i did this one podcast and it like legit was like oh my god she asked me about it and then it was like i was like this is a really dated question i'm so mad i did that damn podcast it was sofia with an f and like i've actually been like literally waiting for it to go on a podcast so I can sit and dog on this girl I'm literally like this is why I might know this is like it aired and here's the problem with it so I did it when I was promoting that I did it in advance to promote that one song I put out that like literally like what is the song you haven't even said the title of the song it was called I'm him it was like legit non-event I'm him yeah but it was I was clearly you weren't girl you have to know you clearly were it was like okay I put out

this song right and so I, was talking to my team. And the thing is, like, this is on me. Because, like, I would literally turn something in. And then I would, like, send it to someone. And they'd be like, you should change this. I'm like, they're right. And then I would legit have to change it. Oh, yeah.

Don't listen to too much outside criticism. Yeah, like, I'm, like, literally one of those people. It's, like, one thing about me, like, I, like, literally constantly need, like, validation. So anyway. I, um, basically, yeah, so I do this podcast, like this single podcast. No, I did that. And I think I did like Zach Sanger's way to promote it. Oh, wow.

You were making the rounds. Those are the two podcasts I did to promote it. Anyway, so we delay the song back a month. And so they're like, okay, well then like we're going to air this when we air it. And then like they reach out in January like, hey, we're airing this. And I was like, girl, like we moved on from the song. Like don't air it. And then, like, they reach out in January. Like, hey, we're airing this. I was like, girl, like, we moved on from the song. Like, don't air it. Like, it's just, like, it's a bad dated interview.

It's, like, if someone interviewed you, like, at that point. It's, like, six months, especially in, like, internet time. Like, girl, that's, like, oh, my God. We've held, like, for a couple months when I was, like, pregnant. But six months. And that's a long time. Six months is crazy. It was, like, yeah, I think I filmed in August.

And, like, she was, like, I'm going to air this now in, like, mid-January or something. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So, it was, like, practically six months. oh my gosh it was like practically like six months and so i was like scrap it and she wouldn't scrap it and i was like girl like i said no she wouldn't no she ignored everyone's requests to scrap like mad i reach out like hey like this actually can't go up to a later date until like we like figure out like what's going what the hell is going on in harryland girl she put it up and it was just like it was annoying because i was like girl i didn't give you a good interview and so it's like yeah what are you doing I was like, girl, I didn't give you a good interview. And so it's like, what are you doing? I'm like, oh.

Like, I like coming on here because I feel like I can be myself, obviously. Like, I come on here and I say things and I'm like, oh, should I have said it? I'm like, whatever. The viewers of Just Trish get what I'm trying to say. We have more on your team today. They'll be like clocking it for you, getting their little notes and stuff like that. You've expanded. That's congratulations. Oh, yeah. The team is big now. Yeah. We clocking it for you. Right. Getting your little notes and stuff like that. You've expanded. That's congratulations. Oh yeah, the team is big now.

Yeah, we have four people here today. Okay, one is Madeline who's like been coming with me to everything. And then Emily, my publicist. Hi. This is so funny. Yeah. Congrats. It's so funny because I'm like the worst.

It's like literally like I'm the worst person to like have PR because like I literally just do things. I'm like, this is coming out today. And're like oh okay you don't give notice enough notice your songs aren't blowing up you got to like that's why like part of the biggest reason why i hired them like guys like i need you to help me with this well you need to give them some notice so they know how to pump you up i have to give them notice for that but like for everything else like i literally said i was like they're like, do you want us to help get involved with, like, the booking for Trish?

I was like, no, I'll just text Oscar. That is, Oscar's my PR. That's it. Right. Yeah. You're our only guest ever. No, I literally, like, I literally, like, guys, like, this is the best show ever. Oh, my God.

Like, this is the best show ever. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. We love having, you're the best guest ever. That's why you're back. I think you're our most recurring guest, probably. Honestly, yeah, at this point, right? Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. You're the best guest ever. That's why you're back. I think you're our most recurring guest probably. Honestly, yeah, at this point, right? Three, at least.

Three. I guess you and Tana, yeah. Well, he's like also. I've been here three times, so it's like we're tied with him. Yeah. Last time you came, you got us Build-A-Bear. We have our axolotl Build-A-Bear right here. Oh, my God.

I have to get you something for the baby. No, you don't have to. I was just saying, every time you come, you bring 10 Build-A-Bears with you. You've done enough. Don't worry. We already thought about this yesterday. And I was sad Build-A-Bear was closed. Why was it closed yesterday?

Because we were going to get there at like 7 p.m. Because I spent all day doing like taxes. What else did I do? And then I was going to be with my agents to like literally sit and cry about my music for like five hours. And what did they say? What did they advice they give you? They literally just like delay it as long as you need which i was like exactly no but it's really that mean where it's like it'd be too dumb telling each other exactly

exactly exactly the program yeah i'm like i'm waiting like i'm waiting for someone to tell me yeah you should delay it so i can like delay it further i'm gonna give you the opposite advice i think you need to put it out asap and you need to really get those sound promos. You need to be, like, posting 5,000 times a day. Sing it to Lady Gaga. Sing it to Lady Gaga. Yeah. Sing your song to everyone.

Just keep singing the I'm Him song to everybody and someone's going to be like, let's catch up on this, you know? Okay, you know what, like, literally happened? I did, like, this whole promo, like, I had this whole rollout plan and then, like, I literally just, like, me and Madeline were, like, meh about it. Like, it was just, like. Why? You need to hype yourself up. Well, the thing is, like, it was just, like, the problem with, like, the, like, me and Madeline were, like, meh about it. Like, it was just, like. Why? You need to hype yourself up.

Well, the thing is, like, it was just, like, the problem with, like, the release date, too, was, like, October 18th. Okay, like, two weeks after that is Halloween. And then, like, right after that, everything just goes immediately Christmas. So, it's, like, I'm not going to promote, like, this, like, whole song. And then it's, like, Christmas. Well, this is the time now. It's, like, spring, summer. Oh, I know.

Yeah. But, like, even now, I'm, like, I have, like, a proper team now. So, it's not, like. Yeah, they're helping you. Yeah. It's, like, I can, like, I have like a, like I have like a proper team now. So it's not like, they're helping you. Yeah. It's like, I can like figure it out now. Cause the thing is like,

for me, it's all very like about like doing things digitally because even like when I do, and I'm definitely gonna like shoot myself in the mouth when I say this, she's like, Oh God, in the mouth or the foot, whatever. I always get scared to do traditional interviews,

like press written interviews because like, I feel like I'll have like, I'll give a good interview and then like, I read it i'm like oh my god you're like the worst person ever like about yourself yes i'm like wait i'm like you literally sound like insufferable like if i read this if i like because the thing is you have to read the interviews if it's not yourself because like if you're like a random person on the internet who doesn't like know the context so it's like they're always very high stress for me so i love coming on a podcast because it's a lot more difficult for things to get taken out of context because like well there's surrounding footage yeah no definitely

in a print interview they can spin it whichever way you know they take like little clips of what you said and they'll spin it but here you're just yourself and people love you on here yeah well I'm excited to see you in New York next week this is so excited I literally I when I didn't go to um Broadway I was devastated I know well we didn't have access like we weren't controlling that we had like producers that were controlling tickets and like no but I wanted you I was devastated. I know. Well, we didn't have access. Like, we weren't controlling that. We had, like, producers that were controlling tickets. Oh, no, no. I figured. No, but I wanted you.

That's what I literally said before you came. I was so sad because you always are so supportive when I come to the shows and at Wicked and anything like that. So. I was just, like, happy to see you do it. Oh, my gosh. And, like, I loved the live stream. And I was, I was, it was incredible.

Oh, you watched the live stream? Thank you. Of course. Yeah, I love New York. I love it. I'm so excited to be back. Like, I really do love it. It's, like, your you. Of course. Yeah, I love New York. I love it. I'm so excited to be back. Like, I really do love it. It's like your home away from home.

Yeah. I would love to come there, like, more full, like, at least part, like, more full-time, part-time. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Are you doing a Broadway show? Not a Broadway show. Radio City show.

No. I can't commute right now because I have a back injury. So I am stationary. Yeah. You know what I found out recently? You actually know what I got? And this, like, literally is not, like, okay. I, like, literally, I sit on my phone all day. I go to a chiropractor and oh yeah i saw that on your

close friends story actually my chiropractor is my favorite person on the planet like i literally like i like oh like she tells me everything i want to hear about like how horrible my body she's like yeah you have the body like an 80 year old i was like you're 21 you look so good no it's like i like i look fine but like i'm hunched over all the time on my phone being like and so because of that like it screwed up my shoulders and neck but now i keep getting ads on my for you page of like tiktok shop like neck massagers and i just bought one so it's like i get you it's like i like literally can't sit in like certain positions for like certain prolong yeah it's good that you're correcting it now though because by the time you're my age it's

i look at harry like a little me a lot of the times, too. I'm like, it's just my little brother Harry. Yeah. No, you do. Oscar loves you. I love you, too. But Oscar's like, Harry's back in town. Yay.

You can always text me, too. I know. I do, like, group chats and stuff like that. I know. I always get scared to text you because I'm like, I know she's busy. I'm like, girl, she's like a mother of, like, two, almost three now. I am busy these days, but I'm still down for a text. And I am the worst texter.

I will never text back. No, you're so fast. You're ten times better than I am. You have like ten group chats going. I have like 2,000 unread text messages right now, guys. Oh, that would bother me. Oh, my God. 2,000 is crazy.

I'll get to you when I get to you. Exactly. At least for us, you're always. Yeah, you're on it. No, I'm prompt with you guys. But like a lot of times Madeline will be like, hey, did you see this? I'm like, no. Literally yesterday, I was reaching out because I'm supposed to do this interview at Coachella with, like, paper or something in any way.

Oh, fun. Emily literally texted me. She's one of my publicists, and she texted me. She's like, hey, like, this is the journalist. And I literally replied. I was like, who's the journalist? And she was like, and she repeated herself. I was like, oh, sorry.

Oh, the journalist texted you I've done that faux pas many times no like she texted me who the journalist was going to be and I was like oh okay do you know who the journalist is going to be oh oh I see oh it wasn't the journalist texting you

it was Emily yeah it was Emily and Madeline they were like okay yeah you have this interview with who that's not bad at least it wasn't the journalist I've had that happen for sure where it's like someone

I'm like who the heck is this person like it's actually me and I'm like oh my god F is this person? Like, it's actually me. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. I hate, like, I'm really someone who's like, I need to see a visual of the person first because I've like literally, I'm so bad at recognizing people, which is funny because that's my whole job. Right.

But it's like, I like, I have to know who's who, but it's like, girl, I have the worst facial blindness. I DMed someone recently and I was like, hey, like, I'm coming to LA. Like, we should go out. And they're like, we've met. I was like, it's like, like, who are you? And they were like, we've met multiple times. I was like, whoops. coming to LA like we should go out and like we've met I was like it's like like who are you and they were like we've met multiple times I was like whoops I'm the same way it's hard it's hard out there

you know what hot topic we forgot I know we're like running out of time but we forgot the Jojo Siwa make you work hot topic oh yeah was that a hot topic or we just talked about it I just saw it right before we started though but I didn't see the full the full because it was a preview for the episode oh I saw that but I saw something about it but then I didn't

click on it you know what's amazing I was like saw it but didn't click on it yeah JoJo's in Celebrity Big Brother right now

have you been watching no but I've heard about this and like I saw the promo ad for her I was like queen that's the thing about JoJo Siwa I love JoJo Siwa you love her

okay like is she a friend of the show or no I think so I like her I've always defended her Trisha is banned from the JoJo Si Siwa Now podcast, but there's an open invitation to just Trisha. I love her. I do love her.

Yeah, she banned me, but here she comes. I'm trying to think. Who do I literally... Oh my God, do you know who I keep meaning to do this podcast? I keep meaning to go on the Abby Lee Miller podcast. I love Abby Lee Miller. Okay, that one definitely not friend of the show. Not friend of the show at all. I think Abby Lee Miller is like, that one definitely not front of the show. Not front of the show at all.

I think Abby Lee Miller is like, she's iconic. There's so many moments that love her, hate her, like girl with the bad haircut. I know you know. Of course I know. Don't you think it's a little bit of child humiliation slash child abuse? A grown woman making fun of a child's haircut. Like, yeah. But it was child's haircut. Like, yeah. But it was really funny regardless.

Like, okay, she's my problematic fave. Like, we all have them. Wild take, Harry, but okay. No, it definitely is. Abby Lee Miller, like, that's the thing about entertainers. I feel like it's like you have to be entertaining. That's the job. And I'm like, she keeps us

on our toes. Do you know Mickey Rourke? I know of him. I know. Wasn't And I'm like, she keeps us on our toes. Do you know Mickey Rourke? I know of him. I know. Wasn't he in like The Wrestler? Yeah. Yeah. He went into the Celebrity Big Brother house. He's going in tonight.

And he gets talking to for being homophobic towards JoJo Siwa. I saw the clip where she's doing the conga line. She tells him to come in and join the conga line. And he said something like, oh, so you're like, she's like, you have a girlfriend. She's like, yeah. He's like, well, if I stay in this house longer than four weeks, you won't be gay anymore. And she goes, no, I will be gay. I'm in a happy relationship.

And then he proceeds to go, I'm voting the lesbian out. And she goes, you can't say that. It's homophobic. So then Big Brother has a talking to him and Big, this is homophobic. And everyone's like, yeah, you can't say that. And then he says, I need a F-A-G. And they're like, you can't say that either. And he's like, no, a cigarette.

But he was obviously referring to JoJo so he's getting canceled for being homophobic and yeah, it's in the news right now. It's a hot topic. Well, that's why he lost the Oscar.

Period. Ended homophobia with that. I love it. He lost not only the Oscar, he lost the Oscar. This Oscar.

Me? Yeah, sure. He lost two Oscars. Two Oscars. I love that you know the wrestler. That's so long ago. I'm super into like cinema? Yeah, sure. We lost two Oscars. Two Oscars. I love that you know the wrestler. That's so long ago. I'm super into like...

Cinema. Cinema. You were on The Substance really early. You knew from the jump. Oh my God. Really? He was at the premiere. He was on it.

The Harry Daniels close friend story. That's where I get all my tea. I went on the close friend story. And oh my God, I literally remember when The Substance got nominated for Best Picture. I legit remember I gave this interview to this one publication and it was at the premiere and they were like asking me all these questions they're like so why are you here and i was like well i actually like i only like i love going to like the for me i love going to produce because i mean we've talked about this a million times i will forever be fanned out yeah like i'll forever

like i i'm not even kidding you like i've talked about this i talk about every five seconds how much i love ice spice she was at my friend's birthday party recently and I met her and I legit was like, it was like word-for-word. I was like, you don't know what you mean to me. She was like, what? Because it's like I-Spice. She wasn't like holding your hand and being like, thank you. No, she was really nice. She was like, thank you so much. But I was like, I was literally acting like I was meeting Princess Diana.

Yeah, she kind of is our modern day queen. Yeah, like that literally is my Princess Diana. Oh, I love I-Spice too. That's what your charm, you're 21, you're a fan of these Yeah. Like that literally is my princess Diana. Oh, I love my spice too. Right. That's what your charm. You're 21. You're a fan of these people. Like, you know, I love that too.

I love being, I love fanning out to people. That's like the best. I think if I could sing to anyone, I would sing to My Chemical Romance. They're doing it. Do you know them? Yeah. I love My Chemical Romance. Have you ever sang?

No. I want to sing to Gerard Way. Can we go together? Can you tell me how? Like they're going to be at the Dodgers stadium. They're doing a stadium tour this year. I think it's going to be the forum. He was at the forum a couple years ago, but now they're doing Dodgers this year. Oh, my God.

And so find a way for us to sing to him for sure. Let me see what I can do. Okay. I love that. I'm like, take no revenue. Yeah, look at you. I'm proud of you as, like, a young Gen Z-er to know this. That's so exciting.

Yeah, I love all of that stuff. I think it's great. I literally was actually going through my expenses ironically and I thought I sold a My Chemical Romance vinyl because like I was downside of my collection because guys last year like I was so broke I'm not even gonna like sit and lie like guys I was so broke last year because I was like literally burning money because like I had to like like if I wanted to like when I like I lost money on Coachella last year because like I got paid to go but it was like I like what I got paid wasn't enough to cover everything Tana's not going for this year for that reason she gets so expensive it's really

expensive and it's like they were really stingy with brand deals this year so it's like everyone gets paid to go usually but this year no one got paid to go so it's like we're all skipping it right well you're not you you're gonna go you're gonna lose the money again right no I this time I this time yeah you have that yeah but um like yeah like i was like literally bleeding money last year and so i was like i was literally had to sell my vinyls to like make up for things because i collect vinyl too and so yeah the first time i came here i came with like a rare like i did love it yeah well when you meet the weekend he's probably gonna do press for his new movie oh my god we were literally on the way here we were just texting about it we're like how yeah

how can we get involved with that but you you know what I really want to do? Not even the weekend. Jenna Ortega. Because of the video. Yeah. Of her being like, you're gay. No, actually. Oh, yeah, I am happy.

She did that? Do you know what? I have to pull this up. And it's in my. Where's my phone? Oh, my gosh. I need to see. It's in my recent texts.

I'm not even kidding you. Because Madeline reached out. Was she young when she said it? Yeah, she was like. A child. I love that. God, how old was she i'm like you're right i am happy it's my favorite video i'm like how many yeah would you recreate it with her i love that you have this pulled up let's see this is my free page oh period that's what it means by the way there's two different meanings oh not the explanation after that is so trash i think that's the best ending to this interview in the whole

world i know i love you so much i love you and i'm very excited to see you in new york i can't wait to see your coachella oh my gosh yeah it's gonna be just a whirlwind of fun and thank you for always being supportive of our podcast dude oh my god knowing me i'll be back in like a month yeah when you come back text us i'm a bad texter oscar is on it he's on the beat so if i ever need to get anything related to just trish i go through oscar but if i ever need to get anything yeah you can always text me i do try to text you back i always try to text you because you're always so cool yeah yeah not everyone i text back so all right you guys. Harry Daniels will be everywhere. He'll be at Coachella this week.

He'll be at my show, Radio City Music Hall next week. And we love you so much. Shout out, Barry, for being here. And shout out you for living the dream. Everyone's fan. Everyone's fan. We love it. I'm literally your number one fan.

I'm both of your number one fans. Thank you. I'm both of your number one fans. Oh, wow. Everybody's. All right. We'll see you. We'll see you soon.

I'll see you soon.