Just Trish - Alex Cooper Clocks Alix Earlie + Colleen Ballinger's New Song is Worse Than We Thought | Just Trish

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

It's white girl on white girl crime as Alex Earle and Alix Cooper GO AT IT, causing an influencer Civil War. Whose side are you on? Plus, Jake Webber and Tarayummy spark rumors that they're back together after being cozy at Coachella. And Colleen Ballinger teases a new song about drugging her kids with melatonin? 💖🪩THANK YOU TO HOME CHEF FOR SPONSORING💖🪩 For a limited time, HomeChef is offering my listeners 18 Free Meals, plus Free Shipping on your first box, and Free Dessert for Life, at https://HomeChef.com/TRISH 💖🪩PRE-ORDER TRISHA'S NEW MEMOIR NOW!!!!!💖🪩 https://linktr.ee/trishapaytas_ 💖🪩GET TICKETS TO TRISHA'S LONDON SHOW!💖🪩 http://royalalberthall.com/tickets/events/2026/trisha-paytas 💖🪩GET TICKETS TO TRISHA'S CABARET SHOW!💖🪩 https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/43417217/trisha-paytas-indio-fantasy-springs-special-events-center?partner_id=240 💖🪩SUBSCRIBE TO MOSES' COOKING CHANNEL💖🪩 https://www.youtube.com/@mosescookingvideos 💖🪩FOR EXTENDED EPISODES AND BONUS CONTENT💖🪩 https://www.patreon.com/cw/JustTrish 💖🪩NEW JUST TRISH MERCH!💖🪩 https://justtrish.com Subscribe to Oscar!:  @oscargracey  Edited by  @jimmywhetzel  https://linktr.ee/jimmywhetzel TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 HORIZONTAL STRIPES, KATSEYE HOODIES, MANON 14:00 COACHELLA, SABRINA CARPENTER, JUSTIN BIEBER, KAROL G, KATSEYE, HUNTRX 29:00 STARBUCKS COACHELLA PJ, BRAN FLAKEZZ BACKLASH 45:50 JAKE WEBBER, TARA YUMMY, JACOB ELORDI, KENDALL JENNER, HAILEY BIEBER AFTERPARTY 53:30 HUDSON WILLIAMS, LOOKALIKES, EUPHORIA 1:03:30 KATY PERRY, RUBY ROSE ALLEGATIONS 1:11:30 LENA DUNHAM, JACK ANTONOFF, TRISHA'S WRONG AFFFFF LORDE OPINIONS 1:30:00 ALEX COOPER VS ALIX EARLE 1:53:00 COLLEEN SINGING AGAIN AND ITS DIABOLICAL, NED FULMER GO AWAY 1:59:00 CLAVICULAR Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy2A0jf5lYUYQxi7iKHmHhQ/join Follow Just Trish on Social Media https://www.instagram.com/justtrishpod/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sorry women. We're not getting any opportunities. We just won. I think that is back to our Coachella, the Sabrina and Justin about. You're so right. She is getting squirted up into the air, 20 feet above Coachella. And everyone's like, you suck. I know.

Hiatus is very vague. Like, let's get a little bit more specific. Yeah. How about I say? She's out. I'm leaving the group. Yeah. Or yeah, she's out.

Whatever you want is. That is the shock of it all. I was kind of like. Welcome to the Just Church podcast. We are feeling energized and fresh. It's been a week since we filmed. I guess like a little less than a week, but it's been a week.

And then so much has happened. We've been texting each other hot topics. Like I can't even believe the one Monday we take off. Like I just feel like truly, you know, I always say it's a joke like the hot topics are hot today. But I feel like we have so much hot topics, personal hot topics, public hot topics, beef, drama, good news, great news. Like, oh, you know what I mean?

Like it just seems like so much has happened. So you were getting us refreshed and you are getting us in technical color. You're getting us in wide scope because me and awesome. Oscar, unplanned, decided to wear horizontal stripes today. Oscar called it out and not me. Like, we're both being braved today. And I was like, you know what? I didn't know which one did make you wider.

I knew one you're not supposed to wear. I just didn't know. I was like, well, honestly, I wear both. So I've never worn, but I don't think I've worn horizontal stripes. So I'm a little nervous that I'm. I remember I was like maybe my peak weight in high school. And it was like a free dress today because we had uniforms. And then the girl in my computer class next to me,

she was an ally I think she was really looking out for me like she meant it genuinely she's like just so you know these stripes just make you look whiter but she meant it so like not in the mean girl catty way like a girl code like looking out looking out way yeah so shout out angela yeah she was really she had my best interest at heart and then here I am is this your first time wearing it sense I think so I kind of think so too I'm pretty thinking like have I worn a horizontal stripes before it is kind of it's bold it's bold well I'm trying to clear up those clothes on the floor in the glam room. So I'm like literally like, I don't want to throw them out

because I got them for the podcast. I'm like, okay, let me just start wearing these clothes. I've never worn before. And yeah, I don't know either. And always jeans is always a tricky thing because you do see my full bottoms here for whatever reason. I'm like, let me show you my full body on this podcast. And the jeans are always a little tricky.

But they're hiked to its fullest for all you audio listeners who can't hear us. The jeans are hiked. Me and Oscar are in some. We're like in kind of the same shirt too. Oh my God. You have a little polo. The little polo and our sleeves are both like in this weird length. T or mine.

I guess it's like normal. for a guy. Mine's like a weird like mid. It's squeezing my arm fat a little. You're kind of giving Emma Chamberlain tease. Okay. Maybe like 2019 Emma Chamberlain before the full Louis Vuitton makeover, you know. I'll take it. I would love her career arc. I would love to also be a Louis Vuitton model hosting the at Gallo. I'll take that. And she just did something recently. What's her news? Has she been

in the news for something? Like she did her West Elm collab. But after that, is she in a movie or? She was also in a movie, yeah. Okay. You saw it? No, that's the one that I was going to see, but Daryan didn't want to see it with Lily Reinhardt forbidden fruit right a campy anti-men witchy horror I love it in that one too I love the whole thing you guys didn't not see it Darian vetoed well before we get started pre-order my memoir crying on the kitchen floor everywhere today you can get signed copies I just noticed that you can get signed copies on a lot of these websites because they did ask us to sign some copies and they said that they were like placing orders from this I know barns nobles one maybe target anyways there's signed copies available I've been signing my little hard ow I'm I'm signing

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Me and my sister did, we bought each other Coachella outfits last weekend because we thought, we thought maybe we were going to go and we went and we bought some Coachella outfits. I gave her such good clothes. Even she was like, I think you won this. I don't know what she was thinking of mine. But go watch. We tried our best over there. Go check out Oscar Gracie blogs.

Where is the next one coming? I think it'll be probably early next week. This is a big week. A lot of things to update about. I was going to say, yeah, today we're on a tight schedule because Oscar has something after, which I know you told me the details before. I don't know how much you can say, but I'm so excited. I am so excited for you today.

I'd feel like you a little bit I'm like I have a super top secret music video shoot I'm not gaggy I know music video me he has a cameo and like a good cams

like a good cameo like when you were telling me what it is I was gagged I think you're all been gagged even if it was just like being like background which I would like totally do but like you're a feature

it is gagging and it's an artist I think she's considered up and coming artist I haven't talked about her on here I don't think but I talk about her on my streams a lot because I do listen to her. And she's just like right at my alley. She opened up for Olivia Rodriguez and she knows the cat's eye girl. She knows Chapel.

Like she is your sphere. Yes. She is up and coming pop girly. Usually I can tell. I have a six cents for a pop girl who's going to make it. Always. You've always been 10 out of 10 starting with octopus lover to Zara Lars. Like you always.

Chapel like you've always. I remember before I even knew Chapel. She talked about us in like a nylon interview and you're like, no, Chapel Rones like big. Like you all you you're always on the pulse and I believe you on this one and obviously this person already is pretty big We won't say wear wet Yeah, she just played coachella me dropping hints but That's huge

I do feel like huge I know I know Give Trish Craig the give Oscar Craig the exclusive I promise Trish Craig one day I'll give him the exclusive because I'm like he always gets things before me I promise one day I'll give it exclusive but until then Oscar Craig maybe I'll give him a little Yeah T's a little BTS No I'm so I was like music video cameos I

think are like the coolest thing no matter how famous you get like anytime you see a celebrity in a music video like a megon like eminent like you're just you're always just gag because it's like what is this crossover so I think seeing you in this music video it's gonna be so gaggy I was like and you're like oh I have to work I can't do I was like I know cancel everything cancel us like whatever you need like I'm so I'm so I can't wait to see you are you nervous not really I think no I mean I'm only nervous about getting there after the gay music video after the gay music video T. That was technically my debut. That was the debut. That's where they saw. Yes.

I was scouted from that. Yeah. Wait, well, what were you saying? You said. Oh, just the instructions. They're like, well, because it's kind of in the middle of nowhere T's. So the instructions to get there. Like, your GPS is going to be wrong. Oh, the directions. Yeah. So that's my, I feel like it's amazing race a little bit.

It was like a half mile northeast from wherever your GPS tells you. So that was kind of scary. Other than that. That means you like probably lose reception or something. Oh, I know. They're like letting you know. They don't have little signs. Production always have real signs.

Yeah, the yellow signs with the arrows. Okay, yeah. Oh, I do love those. Yes, I did. Whenever you see them, like, around town, you're like, oh, what's this set? CCTV this way. You're like, okay, CCTV. Is that?

I don't know what that is, okay? I think that's a court TV. I don't know why I said that. Well, anyways, I'm very excited. Are you going to vlog it? If I can, yeah. Walk a little. I don't know how it's secret it is, but.

I think you vlog and then, like, once it comes out, you could probably put that behind the scenes. I'm excited. And your moving vlog? Is that going up next? Yeah, because it'll be, I think I'm taking like a week to move. So I think today also like close on a house, which is crazy, I think. I thought you were going to say you're moving today too. No.

And I have to move after the music. Oh my gosh. So it's a big week in the Oscar universe. I think, and we're going to manifest that for everyone watching. I do think like aligned. I was literally like voice memo, voice memoing with Tanna this morning too because she's like in New York for something really big right now. Like she got this like really big brand deal.

And obviously like the Adam Sandler of it all. I did Chili's this week. Like there is something aligned in our sphere in our universe. Everyone watching, I want to also let you know that like big things are happening for. I really believe it. I really feel like it. Like I've been posting those on Instagram so I feel like there is a shift in the sphere.

Everything's out of retrograde for the first time. Like something's always in retrograde, but it's not happening today. And it's just like there seems like a good, there's like good, good, good. vibes out there. So if you're watching this, I really am manifesting the best vibes for you. What happened good in your world today? Moses is also here. He does with Moses cooking videos. Oh, hi. I'm here. But also leave us in the comment the things you want to manifest because we got everyone there. Yeah, we love a full.

Like in helping you guys get the jobs you want and the things you manifest yourself, the school, the scholarship, the everything. Yes, scholarship. And really nothing. I'm just cooking. Okay. If you want to know how to make shrimp pasta, go over there. It is a great one. I know. He's like, what do you want tonight for the cooking channel?

And I was like, ooh, I don't know. We're doing pasta vodka? We can. We can. It's a really good recipe because it's like complex and easy. It's like, you know what I mean? Like it's easy enough to make, but you get amazing flavor. Okay.

I feel like something big happened for you this week. No, there has to be something that happened, Puge. The master's event. I'm so out of it. Oh, you shot your second sponsorship yesterday. Oh, yeah. When I was at my music video, he's like, I rushed over here. Same day tomorrow.

Yeah, it should be out when this video is out. So check out his TikTok. Yeah. A Bolognais recipe got sponsored. It's very exciting. He rushed over to my music video yesterday. He's like, I just had to finish filming my sponsored video. I was like, love the content creation.

It came out really good. So, yeah, I highly recommend it. Very exciting. Everyone's like. Wait, something else too was going to be. Oh, we also got the Mana Gap Complex Hodies. You gag me with this. I literally my jaw drops because they had this like capsule collection with Gap and the complex shop.

All of cats. I each member got one or a former member, I suppose. But they didn't say what time it was dropping. So I started work at five and I had the website open and like I would periodically refresh to see when it was up because they never said at what time is dropping just the date. They did on I think it was complex or one of the Instagrams. to say because I knew 9 a.m. I was there at 9 a.m. I was like, yeah. I signed up for the email list. I gave no shade to Hybex Kevin. But I signed up for this email list. I said, get notified when it drops. The email came at 9.24 a.m. There was a delay. And then by the time I actually went

back to look, the skinny sizes were the only ones available from Manaw. And I panicked. So I panicked and bought a small. I was like, well, well, maybe I could be. Oh, you got a small. Okay. I love that. you're going to be wearing it cropped and cute. I kind of love that. I don't think I'll even get my head in. They do say it's oversized, but I question just how oversized it is. That's a good Patreon video.

Okay, because my truth is that I bought one of each, but you're right, all the sizes were like kind of sold out. So I did get like a small, medium large 2x. So I'll like see which one fits because they all were like different sizes. Like I forgot which one was which. Because I honestly was just going so fast. I wanted the leopard one because it was like match dot love line.

It was zip up. And I was like there was another zip up that was just like stones, but like you could kind of see it was cat. Sophia. Yeah, Sophia. Like I, I got like everybody's. And then also Ari, because she was doing my makeup at the time. I was like trying to get her for her and daughter, but they were small.

So they were able to like get theirs. But then I was thinking like of you. And I was like, oh, man, we got to get Mana. But then you sent me today that Manaw is not in the trading cards. I'm like, is she actually out of cats? Did we just buy? But it could be a rare thing that we bought the last. Yeah.

Okay. Because it was, it was sold out. That's a good point. First to sell out. Yeah. It's like getting a member of the Beatles when they leave a band. You know, it's like... Right.

We got the last of that merch. Yeah, because they're like, oh, there's what the trading card is. And I was out. I was like, wait, really? I thought... I didn't know if she was taking a little break. Yeah, this was breaking news as I was getting ready to leave. Katzai announced their third EP coming out in August.

And they have individual, like, versions of the EP that you can physically buy. And there's only five versions. And it literally lists like... In Yelta's version, Sophia's version, Yonche's version, Megan's version, Lara's version, Nomina, no, ma'na. And that's when I was like, okay, it's really over. I was holding out, like, delusional hope that, like, something was going to happen and it would work out.

But now I'm really just like, girl, it's over. Girl, it's over. It's not delusional. They didn't tell us. They said she's on a break. Yes. I know. Hiatus is very vague.

Like, let's get a little bit more specific. Yeah. How about I say? She's out. I'm leaving the group. Yeah. Or, yeah. She's at whatever you want is.

That is the shock of it all. Yes. Even Coachella, I was holding out hope maybe she would, you know, make a surprise appearance. Even Weekend One came and went. She was in the audience, but she wasn't on stage. That was her surprise appearance. She was walking around. People spotted her on, like, different live streams or whatever.

Yeah, I thought she was on a little break. I thought her, I thought her, yeah. I thought she needed some health and rest and wellness. But. That's what they said. Yes. And here she is looking sickening, walking around the camp. as the girls are on stage, okay, work.

But I'm like, weekend two. Weekends. Yeah. Maybe she'll come out with Sabrina because they added 10 minutes to Sabrina set, so maybe she's going to come out with her. I know. I was delusional.

Weekend two might be the weekend that people bring out, like, the big guess, even though weekend two, like, historically as like, okay, a lesser weekend, but I feel like because it was so hyped last weekend, I feel like people are going to bring out. Do they bring out different guests? Is that how it works? So, yeah.

I think so. So I think I heard Sabrina Carpenter is going to bring out Madonna as one of her guests for Weekend 2. We'll see if that's correct. How'd you hear that? It was on Des Mois. So. Okay.

Of all times, I ask you if it's Des Mois. That was actually DeMont. Okay. That's kind of gaggy. And Madonna's teasing like a new album coming out this summer, so that kind of makes sense. Okay. But people were wrong about Taylor Swift being a surprise guest at Sabrina.

So. Well, maybe she'll be this weekend. I don't know. Okay. I'm really doubting. Especially seeing how she went with like actors for weekend one. What'd you think about that? We filmed in the last podcast the day before Coachella

and then all Coachella popped off. I was like, damn. We were like, hmm, any drama going to help me to Coachella? I don't think so. Well, we could have even predicted. It's just hard to predict it. Yeah, I don't know. What do you think about Sabrina set?

Just quickly. We don't have to go too much into it. Yeah, I like Sabrina set. It was kind of controversial, I guess. I mean, besides the Yodel moment debacle, which I knew watching live, I was like, girl, the second you hear someone say it's like their culture. No comment. Keep it moving.

I understand how she misunderstood what was going on because I think she interpreted it as like a Burning Man kind of situation. Yodling over there at the burning man. I have never heard anyone. Also, it's not a yodel. It's something so different in yodel. Like I grew up with it. Like I grew up with that like at weddings and events.

People would do that like because my culture is like Arab culture. So it's like and they're like, I mean, he is Arab. Yeah, you are Turkish and Moroccan. Libya. Libya, sorry. All I'm saying, like, it's something that's so common and it's like a celebration. It's a positive thing.

So it was just, that's why it was sad when it became like. I know. It was categorized as weird. I don't think she knew. But, yeah, she apologized. She didn't apologize because like she didn't know. Yeah, I think it was just a careless mistake. Yeah.

And obviously, she's like. like very politically aware and everything too. And I don't think she would ever like purposely try to offend anybody. Yeah. And I think her mind was just like, oh, it's the Coachella crowd where everyone's like rolling and being crazy. And it was like a moment where she was like getting ready on the piano. So I feel like maybe she thought she was getting a little trolled or something.

Yeah. And not understanding contextually. Yeah. And. But what the controversial part besides that you thought was the actors? I think people thought all the little interstitials were too long, which I could understand. like maybe the pacing could have been tighter because like the opening video was like over five minutes Susan Sarandon had the monologue that was like over I think almost 10 minutes.

It was wrong. I was watching that. It was long. Wait a minute. What's it going on? Like you kind of like stepped out of the show for too long. Especially in person. I could imagine that would probably be really long in person because you probably don't even see

the person. Like what the hell is happening? Yeah. I just think those interstitials could be like tightened up. But everything else I was living for. I think she's such a show girl. I love the production. She's like the budget is.

Every dollar I'm getting paid, we're paying. We're putting it right into there. I'm going to fly on the freaking rain and I'm going to have a million dancers. And the production value was crazy. And I really liked it. Yeah, I thought so, too. I know it did not go over well with people online. I thought in general, people were very critical of it.

Yeah. Like boring and this. And I'm like, I don't know. I thought it was good. Yeah, I thought it was. But literally, and everyone in my sphere, like, just people I like knew throughout the week and stuff that are like, it was awful. I was like, what's it? I know.

But also, I think we're easily entertained. Not to say it's not. I just think, are people maybe just harsh? I don't know. I think people are just hard. I think of all the headliners. Like, I, my opinion. I do think Katzai could have been a better headline.

I get they don't have as much music. Maybe it wasn't as good as the other headliners. Like a Justin Bieber and a Carol G. I think it's like not the same caliber. But like, I don't know. That's just my opinion. I don't know. I think she's a good headliner.

I think some people like the more short and sweet era more than man's best friend because man's best friend is a little bit more mid-tempo, like a little bit more country-infused. And short and sweet is a little bit poppier. Yes. Jack Antonoff production teas. So I think that could be part of it too. She did a little bit more like emails I can't send era like nonsense and some of the more popular songs. Maybe that would have helped with like the pacing.

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so I really love Sabrina set. But yeah it is funny though like people clocking Sabrina for being quote unquote boring and then cut to Justin Bieber. Love the artistry. Love how simple it was. I'm like, okay, girl, that's fine. But you can't say the girl out here with 500 backup dancers walking on treadmills before I'm with treadmills, doing a backwards fall into the state. It's like, she's boring.

But then Justin on YouTube is like the peak of artistry. Like that's fine if you like it. But I'm like, then you can't come and be like, this girl's boring. I think it's on brand for him. Yeah, I loved it. I wasn't living, but I'm not a believer like that. but the fans loved it. I'm like, okay, well, that's like what the fans wanted.

I feel like that's on brand for him, what people expected. So the voice was great. So. I love when he's, like, singing with the track because I'm like, work. Like, it was like changing like tones of his voice and stuff like that. I was like, I love this so much. I think I'm not a believer like that either. Last episode, I don't like Justin.

I didn't have a little believer face for a couple months on tour last year, but it was over that one song by Ed Shearing. For all the times you chat around. But then you went to that photo shoot and you were. surrounded by Justin and Haley. Oh, I did feel, I did feel a believer in me come out. I did. I was taking the word waters.

I was like all of a sudden. And I was like, oh, I'm in the Bieber mode. I do love it. Shout out OBB studios. I felt very much in there. Yeah, I like, and I like the hype. I like when people get hype. Like I love how everyone just like obsessed with Justin.

Like I, it's kind of like the Hannah Montana of it all. Like I love when there's like a hype. I think he's pretty talented. I think it is crazy. Like you said like Coachella to be like, but it. Yeah, he's like, just care about it. You know, some people are just like charismatic. And it's just like, I don't know.

I guess you could just literally sing with your tracks to yourself and just... Yeah, I think people were just impressed that he showed up. And that's fierce. I loved it. $10 million to show up and sing. And he did. And that most viewed. He got like 125 million views or something like that.

I've got like the most viewed ever on Coachell. Like, I like it. I like his songs. I like him. Yeah, I thought that was like pretty good. I like he did a little... I've seen all essays written about his performance and how much that was like. Essays.

the best thing ever happened, an artwork. Really? And there's people that they've watched him. I mean, that is a crazy thing today. There's people that have watched him on Twitch in the last three months. He's been streaming in preparation for this. So a lot of people knew what he was going to do and what was the essence of it, too. And this is the first time he does what he wants, the way he wants to do it too.

So it was like really just sitting with his audience, the people that actually love and support him and like the industry that abused him for so long. and just sharing that moment of like, these are the videos we connected on, watch together, and just having that kind of moment. And also, I think he did still a little bit of your, you know,

tour, you know, putting the YouTube music videos in the background. I mean, that's your tour. Moses told me this for real. And really, I was like,

don't say that on the podcast. He's like, I think he took it from your, like being dead serious. Because he never tells me hot topics or his little jokes. gonna do like I never know. And I was like, he's like, no, I really think he like took it.

Or let's say this way. There are people, few like you and Justin Bieber that got familiar through you through that world. And that's kind of the connection to the audience. And it's a stronger connection than anyone can have. That's where I think like Justin's connection to his audience will always be bigger than Sabrina's. And I watched Sabrina's.

Her vocals were amazing. She is amazing. I didn't know you watched all this. Where was I? I was cooking. Was I here? I was cooking and I literally opened it right at the moment where that thing happened with the yodel. What were we doing last weekend? Was I here?

I was cooking. Yeah. Oh, okay. I don't know. We didn't talk about it. That's so weird. We didn't talk about any of this Coachella stuff. But yeah. Anyway, all I'm saying, like, it was a good performance for Justin Viver. It's kind of like a once in a lifetime performance. Well, twice. We're going this weekend. I'm going to go this weekend. I would go. If it wasn't obviously, Tanna's story time on how like crazy it was, like made me not want to go. But if she didn't do that, I honestly, I was like, maybe I should just go and experience it like once. Like, especially like I personally liked Carol G the bad. Like, I love that kind of performance.

Looked amazing. Sound amazing. Like, I obsessed. Like, she's, oh, bring you up. Becky G. Yeah. Like, I obsessed. Like, I saw Becky G.

And, like, Young Miko and Carol G. Like, at a party after just like, grind. I was like, ah, I want to be in that so bad. So I would love to go. Sunday I could technically get artists passed because Ward, my tour manager, is down there with Iggy Pop. shout out Iggy Pop. Did you see his performance? Love it.

He was like carried out in like a coffin or something. He's like 78 or 80 or something like that just performed. My tour manager was like with him because I was trying to call him. He's like, oh, I'm at Hotel. Maybe it wasn't the skit. Huh? You saw the skit? Maybe it wasn't the skit.

Well, I think he's alive and well. Okay. That to be crazy. But I also would love to see Justin Bieber and I think if I didn't see Tanya story time, I'd be like, oh, maybe we should just go down. Like if it was like an in and out, which I know it's not an in-out thing, but I would love to see. I love the merch.

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an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Maybe you're right. Maybe he just deal up. You know me. I'm singing along to my music videos too. I'm like, hey, oh, look, you know, like I think there was something to it. It's art at the end of the day.

He did have a little worship number in there. He had a little, I didn't know, Justin was like that. Yeah, I didn't know. He had a little. He loves the church. I don't know. Well, if we're doing YouTube, why don't you bring up I love you Jesus?

Why don't we sing along to that? Like, I was like, that. I was kind of gagged. I didn't know him like that. I thought he was like, Illuminati. I didn't know he was God. The word was that Sabrina's set was

demonic and Justin was like all Jesus praise. I did hear that. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, maybe not crazy. I don't know. Anyways, I loved it. I loved the merch. I love the Carol G. I love. But my favorite is Katzai with Huntrix because our girls,

you know, once that golden comes on, we probably replayed it. Literally, we probably replayed that song a thousand times that version from Coachella, I love them like harmonizing with Huntrix. It was so good. Like, my girls, as soon as I hear that song, if I could be scrolling on TikTok anywhere, they'll just like, like, it gives them, it sparks something emotional. Yeah, like, they're so

emotional about it, and they're three and two, and it's like, it's cool. That song is really, and those, the Huntrix girls are really so I love that they brought them out. That was like a perfect fit. And Katzai ate, as much as like where Manaw stands and like, I wish she was in the group. Like, yeah. They are amazing. And they looked great. Like, that's why I think, like, they'll be a happy ending for everyone. I do think, like,

one of them is doing a feature on someone else's, right? Megan was in Levei's music video. The Asian Avengers is what everyone's calling it. Oh, I love that. Do we love that? We can say that. I love it. Yeah, because they're all half white, half Asian.

Love that. I love that. They're also called, I think the girls on YouTube, like, Lord DIY. They call them like, yeah, they always, it's like Hapa or something too, like half Asian island Pacific or. Yeah. Anyways, Manal, if you want to do a feature, I just did a music video yesterday. I was like, you know, we love you so much. I love them.

I love them all. I think they did look. good. I love their little pinkies up. We got to do that dance. We got to practice it for our dance class Patreon. Yeah. That's a reality. Yesterday I was dancing and I was thinking like, oh, we could actually crush this. I'm in my dancing era again, so I think we could actually do.

We had to learn pinkies up. What was the other one we wanted to learn? The last era. It was a cat's eye? Oh. They were amazing. The dancing was amazing. So the choreographer that dance for Taylor Swift is still the same person? Yeah, Grant. And everyone was coming

hard for him on TikTok and Twitter. Everyone was making fun of his dance. that was like the trend, the hate train a week or two ago. Oh. Because he's very theatrical with his facial expressions. And he grabs his nipples a lot. But I think it's fierce. And we're doing the freaking, like everyone's doing the gnarly.

Like everyone's doing the touch. Like the dances become trend. So clearly the choreography is eating. Like I know we're just upset over Mona. But like, they're still five hardworking girls that we still got to support. They still love. Yeah. We still love.

And support mom. Maybe we'll come out this weekend. I really wanted you to go this weekend. Like, I want to go. But I think you could, you should go for real. Because you're like in it more. I heard the, I'm not even going to say like horrors. I'll say survival stories.

The tales of everyone camped out for Beaverchella. Like literally everyone looked packed from the front all the way to the exit gate. Like you couldn't move. Like Brooke Schofield said she had tears on her eyes because she lost her friends in Beberchella. and she couldn't find them again and she couldn't move and everything that Tanna said, where everyone was like miserable and talking and the men were being rowdy.

Oh my God, yeah. And then the girls wouldn't stop talking. I was like, this sounds like my worst nightmare. I think if Taylor Swift was headlining Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, I still couldn't go. Wow. Yeah, I'm not anti-Cella. And the Starbucks comes along.

Just kidding. But you know, when... When you see Oscar with that green straw, you just... Don't say anything. Yes. But then that sparked a whole wave of influencers being like, you know what? I turned $200,000 down. You can too.

I'm like, did you? And all the comments, all the comments were like, no. I'm taking $200,000 from anyone. Like, what do you mean? Then I'd go to see the followers. I don't even get $200,000. And I would see they have like a million. Yeah.

I don't know where the $200,000 price came from that Starbucks was allegedly like paying every influencer that took the private jet to India Valley. Yeah. Because that's like a ridiculous amount. I've never gotten that. Never. And like at the height, at the low, like, like, no, that's not happening. I think those people, and then people like, I turn it down.

Well, you're stupid. Like, it is crazy. It's kind of giving the same people who were like, I got uninvited. I'm like, okay, now I'm questioning everything. Say the brand then. And if you got uninvited. Like, no, it is giving that. I'm just like, I don't think you did.

I don't think I, like, I don't think I, like, Twitter thought. I don't know. It's just, I know, because when that happened, I don't know, I remember when we heard somebody was going on that. We're like, oh, damn, that's good for him. Then I, like, saw all that. I was like, just kidding. Not good.

I mean, it's kind of everywhere. Yeah, yeah. I was like, brand flakes who is, I honestly didn't really know about him until you mentioned him a couple, maybe last year or two years ago. Yeah, when he came to my tour. I didn't know. Everyone was like, ah, and I was like, who, who's this, you know? That's when I followed him. He seems very nice.

He seems nice. Transparent about his content. He's like very upfront about like how much influencers make. And I know he's done a lot for like Philadelphia. I think that's where he's from. Yes. Well, he's moved to L.A. now.

I saw the Philadelphia gaze be like, heard you need a gay to follow in Philadelphia, and I'm not moved to L.A. I was like, oh, my God. Okay. And I feel like, I've heard he's done a lot for, like, the communities there. Like, he supported, like, a lot of female-owned businesses.

So he's like... He's super liberal. Yeah. Yeah. So he's pretty pretty, he's fairly politically active. And then people really upset that he took a Starbucks brand deal to go to Coachella. And I do think there's probably some valid criticism in there.

I do think if you, like, make your brand about one thing and you kind of go against. instead and obviously people are going to look at you a little bit differently. And I think it's aware. I feel like so many times you're not aware of like what brands are doing and what. Because I'm always like there was a target. There's all these boycotts. I'm like, oh my God, who are we boycotting?

I didn't know either. I'm like, that would have been my dumb. Because I would have been like, okay, yeah. I thought, because I remember when the wicked drinks came out, I think that Starbucks released a statement about like that they do support Palestine. They donated $3 million. So I was like, oh, it was. And they're not like on the boy call list.

Yeah, we're like, we're so back. We were boycotting. We were boycotting. We were holding down pretty strong. I'm for it too. I'm like if someone like informs us and like, okay, yeah, so that's what we're doing. And I think it was like working and I think it was declining and like whether they did donated because it was declining or they just had a change of heart or whatever.

Maybe it wasn't whatever. Like it, you know, everyone's like, okay, now we support again. So we boycott other things for other reasons. So yeah, I thought we were back on it. Yeah. And then I, but then I like understood now about it's kind of like a, they can be anti-union and they can there's something. about like how they treat the workers and like letting workers go based on like causes they support

and stuff so I'm like oh okay now I understand it like a little bit better I think I'm still kind of wrapping my head around it to be honest but yeah so I do kind of understand the backlash and then his apology was kind of like oh I always say just don't just don't say anything sometimes you're better off because the double down the explanation like even in your head right I can kind of understand like kind of where he's coming from but like it just it doesn't it doesn't sit right with like the everyday person that's like not needing to go to Coachella and not needing that. You don't know what I mean? Like it's just so yeah, the out of touchness of it. But I like, I get like his explanation because he's trying to like justify why he did it.

And it's like, literally like two days before this all happened. I was like, hey, here's my number. And it's so fine. It's not like I'm like, I hate this person or anything like that. But like yeah, the out of touchness always makes you like cringe a little, especially I think because he has that relationship like you said with this audience where he's like so transparent. He's like other influences won't tell you this. Like I'm the realest influence. insert and like then that happens. You're like, well, you sold that a little, which is like, you know, fine if you need that ticket, if you need that, like, jet or whatever.

But I think in that case, you just keep it moving. Like, people will not care in a week that you went with Starbucks on a private jet. Yeah. I think to his point, he's like, well, I have never said I was boycotting Starbucks and that. And his apology video, kind of pointed it back at like the viewer and was like, well, I know some of y'all have iPhones and we're supposed to be boycotting Apple. I know some of y'all have, yeah, shout to Amazon. You've drink in the Starbucks before.

Yeah. So you're on TikTok and I'm like, We're everyday people, not me, but them. Yeah, yeah, she. They're like, but yeah, we weren't flown out to Coachella on a private jet. And they still think it's $200,000. I'm telling, I know for a fact that it's just not $200K. I mean, he did.

There's just no way. Maybe they have their like, the value of your trip will be, you know, private jet, this thing. the things, the tickets, all that. Even that's like high, but yeah. Yeah, I think I heard for pretty big, popular, famous influencers, it was around 20. The max I ever heard was 50.

And that's getting paid to go. Because I also have heard that, like, brands, like don't even pay people sometimes. They just give them the tickets and things. Yeah, like the sugar by hair of it all. Yes. Or, like, Revolve Fest. I know, like, some girls, like,

you got a ticket to Revolve Fest at Coachella, but you have to post. yourself in Revolve at the party, like a hard pose. Yeah. To get value out of that or whatever. So they keep the access for content. I never even heard in real life, unless people just don't tell me, but I didn't even know people got paid cash to go.

I thought like people just are so desperate to go. Yeah, the brain trip is like you get paid in the accommodations and the tickets. Yeah, the artist passed and all the stuff, the private jets. Well, damn, I know. The explanation was crazy. Yeah, to point it back, I think that's always too. Never blame your fans or the viewer. never like turn it back on them because it's like you did it you dick it whatever and you just got to keep it

moving i don't know like it is yeah because people were like oh and he apologized after the trip because he was the main one that got attacked right was there other people yeah he was the main one which is funny because that that PJ was filled with like really famous people who else call them out no i don't even know don't even know i don't even know anyone else on the starbucks trip i saw via his instagram story on that thursday yeah on thursday it was like tar ymi was DJing over Over the... On the Starbucks PJ? Yes.

And Mamie and Laura were there. Mayan and Laura from... From Manny Muey, Laura Lee. I thought you meant cats' eye. Megan and Laura? Oh, Megan, no. Yeah, okay. Man Amiway and Laura Lee.

Oh. No, I'm getting Laura and Laura. I know. I was like, oh, okay. We have a plethora of people there. Spread the hate. Spread the hang around, everybody. Hashtag spread the hay.

Okay, but you know what? No, that's Oscar. Fake news. People always look for your fake news, too, what I posted. I wasn't the guys in New York, and I was, like, waiting for Oscars fake news. I know. I pick and choose when to spread my little fake news. Otherwise, if I do too much, no one will ever believe me.

I see, I don't know if they're believing you now. I think they're just waiting for the antics, but it's a good point because it's like the audience. Yeah, I think we've seen that with like, you know, anyways, but just in general, like, people's audiences because he's so, like, transparent. I'm for the people. I'm with you guys. and then you turn into like LA influencer.

I think that's when people are like, it's kind of like Michaela, right? I think it's like, we love Michaela, by the way. But like, I think it's like Michaela. She was like so down to earth and real. And then now she's just like luxury spending and traveling. She was, she was an economy in a middle seat on the way to Portugal. And I was like, girl, yes.

I loved it. She's like, I'm getting the middle seat. And I was like, okay. I love that. That was like humble queen. But yeah, I think his is his whole brand, if you will, is, yeah, being real and transparent. And then when you're not, it's kind of like, oh, wow. Tea. And I feel, I don't think anyone should completely write him off either because he does seem very like well intentioned and very nice and very, you know, doing his best. It's just like a misstep. I think a miscalculation to and not understanding that the audience would take it a certain way, which I get to. Because in the moment you're like, oh, damn Starbucks is sending me on a private jet. Yeah.

Full accommodations to Coachella. No, we were gay for him. Drink a little, you know, pink tea. Like, okay. What does James Charles call it? What pinkety drinkity? I just got to drink a little pinkety drink a shorter. No, I'm not a Starbucks. No, I'm not a Starbucks girl. You're like, the pink tea. Yeah, the pinkety drinkity. The pinkety drinkity.

Like, sure. Were you drinking that back in the day of the pinkity drinkity? Tea, not even because of James Charles's influence. I just thought it was good. It was like a milky assa'i. Yeah. That's pretty good. It is pretty good.

Yeah. Okay, so, yeah, all those big influence are there was Starbucks. So, yeah. Yeah, you got to just like not acknowledging. You just do it and just, I guess that his brand is acknowledged being that, but don't do it after the fact. Although I did love his POV on Coachella, which was like all the empty food stands. He's like, no one's here. No one's eating.

Everyone is in line to build some damn sunglasses. And he's like, these food trucks are all free. We're going to eat it. I do appreciate that. I do love that. I'm like, ooh, I'd be up in that food truck for sure. That looked, it looked like a good time. Honestly, Coachella, I had a little, I didn't have a little fomo.

I wish I was there. I wish I could experience some things, but without the antics and the crowds and all that. Because it does seem like a lot. And then also to just all the TikTok accounts that come afterwards, everyone's like, this person's security guard was terrible to me. Like I think Leah Katab from Love Island, some girl, not some girl. Another influencer said like her bodyguard, her security was so mean to me. Why does she even need a security guard?

Oh. And then Leah's like, well, obviously we need security guards because people are crazy. Like I've gotten threats, whatever. Oh, my gosh. So there's just so many different accounts of like this security being mean. But people use the security to get around, you know, like to make way in the audience, to cut through bathroom lines, things of that nature. Or like what happened to me with Jay Z security guard.

Like they are. That's right. You got a security guard. It is a problem. If everyone is in the artist area, there's no reason. Wait, what happened with you and Jay Z's security guard again? I forgot. We're walking at night.

It was late night. Coachella. Yeah. And there's like a road as wide as this room. I'm in that end of the room. He's in that side. And suddenly this guy just walks up to me and pins me to the fans. Oh, did we know this story on here?

I've heard this before. At some point, this is early in our first season, first season. And he just pins me to the fence. And I'm looking at him as like, what's your problem? And then I see Jay Z walk by and then lets me go and he walks away with him. Oh, geez. And I'm like, I'm number one threat. to Jay Z.

Oh, my God. Were you the only one in the room? Only one in the road. It was like a road, like between tents. Oh, you have the only one in the road. Yeah, this is like midnight. Nobody's there. Nothing is happening.

What do you mean? What was he there? I'm obviously with a badge and everything. Well, you were by performing. Nobody's there. This is late night. Everyone going to sleep. That's why why they thought it was suss.

You're like the only man standing in the middle of the road? Why are you? I'm not. I'm not. No. No. No. I'm just walking.

I agree. I agree. I'm just walking. I'm the most innocent person looking. There's no reason. If you're his bodyguard, body, that guard is body. You know what I mean?

Be around him. Don't put your hands on me. I agree. I don't touch anyone. No, I wasn't. I agree with that. No. So I'm saying,

those security guards do take certain liberties to do stuff that they do not even need to do. And especially if you're in that area, it's fine. If you go out to the audience and people mob you and stuff, sure. I'm not victim blaming at all, but what were you doing there?

Like, why were you in the middle of the road? You're just hanging? We were just walking back to the tent. Who's we? I was with Levi. I mean, Levi were just walking. But was he there too? Who?

Levi, was he next to you? And he just pinned you. Okay, so there's two of you in the road. Yeah, that's what I'm saying? Like, why? Oh, yeah, that is weird. What do you want for me? Anyway.

Okay. But my opinion is that this weekend of Coachella is the weekend to go. Okay. Because always whenever there's this kind of chaos and people talk badly about an event, people are just not going to go. So this is the time to go. All right. This is the weekend.

Let's drive in. Maybe we just drive on. As long as I don't want to walk too far, I'm down to drive. I don't want to walk too far. Yeah, let's do it. Because everyone talked badly about it in certain ways and experiences. And people, it's not like people are like, oh my God, this is the best Justin Beaver show. You know what I mean for the general audience, not the believers.

Why I'm an end for Iggy Pop? Yeah. New on the C stage. Which one would you want to go see if we would? were to go this week and which one are we going to see one set it would be it would be justin well yeah right we'll see how we get in any brands let us know i will do on record i say never once has a brand ever reached out to me to go to coach out like i don't know how all these people are getting brands reach out to them never ever ever ever i've been on 20 years to never i just even like i saw

ticot friday i think of a girl was like i just decided like two weeks ago that i'm going to go to and no one offered a fly me, but I do have, like, one brand deal, like when I'm at the festival, and so she was breaking down and she was getting paid. And then another brand was in her comments, like, we got you, girl, come on our plane.

And I was like, what? Oh, I'll let us know. What plane are we going on? If you're uncontroversial, won't get us in trouble, let us know. But if you are controversial for the 200,000, oh, we're taking it. We are taking it, okay?

We are taking it. No, I mean, I'm my . And then literally it came out again that they were doing some homophobic shit. Oh, I don't know if it was true, but I was like, damn it. Well, you know where we're going. We're going to chilies. We will go.

Yeah, chili's on. Let's get us a PJ. You want to come on the Chili's private Jentechon? That's where it's hot. The big crispy three for me. We are down. The chicken sandwich was huge. And I'm not to say that because I don't have to say it on here,

but it was a big crispy chicken sandwich. Did you see it? Okay. So I commented. Yes. But I commented the second I saw you like come through the the court door so I was free the menu item reveal Oh, okay. So I thought it was just like a general come to chili.

So I was like, yes. Oh, you were triple dipper. Yes. And then I got to the end. I was like, oh, well, it's too late. It's for me, but it's fine. We love the triple dipper too. It's great value no matter what.

So all right, Coachella, see us at the Chili's. At the Chili's tat. We'll be there. Honestly, yeah, it does seem like a good time. but yeah, no one's invited me. It's a festival. You just go. Well, I need to be invited.

Okay, I do not. I mean, influencers are annoying as hell. After this weekend, they really are. Like, I do get influencer hate a little bit because it's annoying. Like, the entitlement is annoying. Like, like you said, you just said it. It's like, it's a festival. Just go.

Pay. Yeah. Pay. Pay. Like, it is. Influencers are like an individual entity, and the minute you have more than one, one in the same room it becomes a problem immediately so that that's where it all stems from you're

right like suddenly all of them were hanging out together and and see what everyone said everyone were awful everyone were you're all dragged into it everyone is talking and doing this I'm like yeah they're doing whatever they want because that's what they always do yeah and they're entitled and this is just i really do i really do i know you know i'm not friends with many tana I like Taria. Me. No one else. Jake and Johnny. Were they problematic? Oh, I saw Mrs. Weber. I saw Jake's mom there.

Really? Yeah, she was at Coachella. I was like, love that. I just love random people at Coachella. I saw everyone speculating that Jake and Tara were back together slash Jake and Kenzie broke up. Why? Because in

Tara's, I want to say it was her vlog. It was where I still a clip. Jake had his arm around her waist. And then Kenzie was kind of like distant in the background. And then there was another clip on someone's live stream, like on Twitch or something where they called Kenzie over. And then Jake was there and then Kenzie walked away like kind of awkwardly.

So we were like, oh, she's done with him. But I feel like that's kind of just their dynamic though, right? They're pretty low key. I don't think anyone's gonna be surprised if Tar and Jake are back together. Like that's, that's gonna happen. I get it. I get the comfortability, but like, Me and Moses both have opposite sex best friends that we've known for like 20 years before meeting each other.

We're still like close with them. But like no way at how like if I'm in the background, his arms around her waist or vice versa, Jeff's arms around my waist and Moses in the back. Like that's, that's weird. Like you could have those kind of friendship. Also, we never dated these people. So I think it's very, it's weird. And they'll probably end up back. No one's going to be shocked.

Like, you know what do you expect? I don't know. This is the kind of type of rage bait. You know, this is the kind of, it's always about relationships and their relationship, either they're together or broken up. I don't know, but these were candid photos. I think it was a setup, a marketing play? Because it's like clavicular, whatever's name? Like, every week he gets arrested and every week he overdoses.

Oh my God, babe. Well, it's, no, seriously. Like, did that like this was his first overdose. I don't think it happens every week. Every week. Every week. Every week. No, but.

Okay, arrested, yes. But he's not in jail. All I'm saying, like, that's the way some people manifest. sure viewership and buzz, you know, it's like, it's like the kick streamers. They're always fighting. There's always a fight. The what? Kick streamers. Like, there's always a fight.

But sure enough, there's always cameras around. There's always a story. Because there's true on 24-7. It's not a coincidence. They're filming every second. By like where you're at. That's my thing. Sorry to get a crazy podcast.

Moses at the helm of it. Hot takes. I take there. Well, another Coachella couple. I'll have to get that to clavicular, but. Jacob Allardy and Kendall Jenner were allegedly getting cozy during Justin Biberstet. And then at Justin and Haley's after party, sources claim that they were making out for hours. I don't know how to feel about either of this.

I feel like Jacob Boularty loves to be like, I'm not influenced or I'm off. But then he's like, in with all the influencer girlies. You know what? Clock that, Tee. That is so true. Why are you so in this scene if you don't care? Because he gives very much like, I'm not like other people.

Like I don't, you know, I'm just in my own world as an actor. But it's like you're so in that world. At least Timothy Shalameh gets silly with it. You know what I mean? Like, we know that Timmy C is a little debauchress. Yes. Whereas Jacob Allorty is reading books at the gas station. Yeah.

Karen Botega being deep and being like, oh, I don't go on social media. I don't know what that is. He just wants to read a book. He doesn't care about phones. He's so unplugged. Yeah. Which you seem plugged in and cloudy. Because I think at the end of the day, too, it's like, you know, you're dating all these it girls.

So it's like I feel like you want to be tapped into it all. That's a good point. You know, I think you would. The son reported that Kendall is 100% Jacob's type. I heard they're having fun and he hung out with her on Sunday too. And him and Olivia are so done. Okay. I mean, I don't have many thoughts on this.

They're both gorge. That's what I was going to say. Like, at least it's hot guy with hot girl and not, you know, hot girl with... Barry Keogan. Oh, my God. But it's so funny. The article's like, it's so his type. It's like, yeah, he always dates models.

Skinny, hot, orange girls. Like, what do you mean? Like, yeah, that's his type. Yeah. They're all famous. Was it Joey King, Olivia Jade? Is it a dad? Oh, Zendaya.

I heard Sidney. Sweetie was rumored to be dating him when they first. Like, I think there's, I think he just dates very. very attractive, rich, famous people. Because he's also very attractive and rich and famous. And at that same after party, some people were coming for Haley because a lot of girl influencers got turned away when some of them were on the guest list. And one influencer, Zach Clayton, you know him?

Kind of. I don't know. It sounds so familiar. Zach Clayton. He sounds really familiar. I know which one you're thinking of. Okay, not that one. But not that one. Okay. Because I also thought that one too. I think that's Gary Clayton. different clay. Oh, that's the theater one. I see another Zach that's gay.

Zachie, Zachariah or something. Well, maybe this one. He does like a staten mom impression. Like he's always like a statin mom. He looks like a fitness, bro. Like a gym bro. Okay, maybe I don't know who Zach really. He claimed that he went with like 20 girls and then they got turned away.

But I'm like, yeah, if you show up with 20 random girls, of course, Haley's going to be like, get out of here. Oh, they weren't on the guest list of the girls. I think so. He showed up with a group of 20 girls and then complaining that you got turned away. But I'm also like this is the Bieber after party. Yeah. It's also giving like Dan, what's the name, Balzary?

What's the guy's name? That has always those women with him. Like it gives like harem. Like I don't want this. I also would. I also be like, go away. Like if you're not on the list and you're bringing 20 random girls, I'd be like, no. People just love to give her hate.

She probably also has a list of all the people that talk badly about her. That they're like, no. I don't even think. She probably didn't even know, honestly. Sometimes these influencers make stuff up. They're just like, we got turned away. It's probably like some security. Just be like, no, this is too many people.

this is an exclusive party. Like these influencers are just making up stories. We got banned. We got turned away. I turned down 200,000. Your morals are easy. It's easy to say no. Also, it's not easy to say no.

That's going to make that argument, too. When people are like, it's easy to say no. I turn down 75,000. That's like, and like, well, the people in the comments clocked it. It's like not everyone has like that privilege to just be able to turn out $200,000. I'm not saying brand flakes, obviously, whatever. But for people to be like, I turned down $75,000. It's like, all right, that's good for you.

No one else can turn that down too. Sometimes people just need the money. Yeah, team. Anyways, but he was kind of dick girl. She was getting a lot of likes. I liked something within like six minutes of her posting and had like literally 1.8 million likes on this photo. I think it was the one of her and like the baby at Coachella with Justin and like no one knows how we got here, how hard it was. And I was like 1.5 million and six minutes is so insane.

Yeah, she just got the last laugh. That's for sure. 100%. She was on the merch. She was on the Justin Bieber live merch. It's just her body. Yeah. She looked good.

Honestly, I love her. I DMed her. So if you want to come on the pod girl? Maybe she'll see it Maybe she reposted Gabby Wendy On her dump Yeah Gabby defending Justin

So maybe she'll repost Moses Defending Justin I was like Love that That'd be I thought like wearing the shirt Or something

I was like okay I love that Yes We love you We love road I got your wardrobe upstairs Um

Zoroa Lawson finally saw my DM I won't say why I don't want to be that girl But like she She finally saw that DM I sent on the podcast I love that And she had a great reply

but I'll keep it to myself for now. I was very excited. I was like... That is gaggy. I think I might have a screenshot at her typing and I sent it to. Ryan, did I send it to you or now?

Yeah. I was like, but I didn't do anything else because I am respectful girl. But I was excited. I was a little gagged. She's gaggy. She's everything.

And she was the feature on the title. I didn't know that. Did you know that when she said? Yes. That's why she joke like it's Trisha Peda. Oh, because I said like wrong answers only or something. Yeah. And I thought everyone was just guessing who it was.

But people knew. Yeah. been hinting at it for a little bit. Got it. So I was like, oh, I thought it was like people just being silly, just to be silly. Yeah, I was just like, uh, did it even show her hair? I don't think so, right? Did it show it was a blonde person?

It was like that pink thing. Yeah. Big pink hair. I think she just put you, she's like, who's another like hot blonde pop star that I can say? We're just in the same, in the same field girl, lover. And she DM me and you know what? Connor and Hudson? Connor Hudson.

Your move. Yeah. We're next. Did you see the Hudson ad that everyone's like, wow. no sex appeal or was that a joke too everyone's like wow he has no sex appeal oh for peloton yeah oh i don't know i didn't see that discourse the sex appeal of a wet sock people switched up yeah and i was like oh i didn't know it's hard for me to tell like i don't know if that sex appeal or not but i'm that that all look good but everyone was like no not it someone said it was giving david dobrook

in the um boss campaign i saw one comment on x about that is wild i was like that's crazy to compare it switch up yeah but that is wild i saw there's i think it's like a heater rival Loverie inspired musical and the two leads do look like Hudson and Connor and they're really milking like the are they a couple thing because they're getting all these like random brand deals now like Uber is paying them. Connor and Hudson, the real ones. The fake ones. The knockoffs.

Oh, why are they paying knockoffs? I think just because they look kind of like them and they may or may not actually be dating. So people are getting really invested on TikTok. I think it appears to just be like baiting to make it look like they're dating to, the fans, like, routed up. Excited. Yeah. But it's working.

The girls are eating it up. Okay, I love that. It's a good day is to be lookalikes. I feel like look likes are always getting stuff, you know? Yeah, just don't go making like an old one or something and pretending to be them. Like, don't go too far. No, I saw one. I think it was a Zendaya lookalike that came on the Kai Sinette live stream.

Did you see that one? Yeah. Is it old? I don't know. I saw that on Twitter. Yeah. And I was like, wait, she does look like it. She does.

And he freaked out. And I was like, she looks just like her. It is crazy. Did you have? watching new euphoria. Yes. Oh, you did? Are you euphoria, girlie?

I watched season one. I didn't watch season two, but I cut up to date. And then season three, Darian, Darian's like a diehard euphoria fan. So we watched it right away. Honest. There's some scenes I just could not watch, like the drug mule stuff. That's what I said. When my sister was here, I was explaining to her and she's like, that doesn't sound that bad.

I was like, I was gagging. I was like, I literally had to like have my phone in my face to block it. I couldn't. Same. Even like stomach looking at it. No, it was crazy. I was like, wow. And you too, you were trying to be like,

that wasn't that bad. I was like, could not look at the movie. No, I was promoting the episode. I didn't want to, you know, turn people off of this show. People watch it because I was like, what was so bad?

I don't want to watch it. I'd be like, what was so gaggy? Yeah, like with the drama. Yeah. What's the twist that's so unreconsalable? I heard someone dies. And euphoria?

I don't know. I don't know, but I heard they said at the, the last episode someone dies originally i had heard don't know i don't know anything this were all speculation i don't know if anyone no someone knows something i guess because i got leaked but i was hearing rue i also heard nate oh ru would be more gaggy because obviously she's the the hero yeah the scene with the car did you see that that was a real thing that happened you remember the car when she got stuck on the border wall so that's that's something that actually happened in real life and they mimicked that into the

Oh, she was on the border? Yeah, she was crossing the border with the drugs. That was the storyline. The car that was tilting? Yeah. It was tilting one in America, one in Mexico. Yeah, exactly. Because she was like illegally crossing the border back and forth.

Yeah, well, I saw her do that just like regularly after the whole balloon incident. But I was like, how'd she get even up there? How'd she get stuck? Why was she going that path? No, she paid somebody to put the ramps on and then thinking that she can just drive it up. Oh. But the director was it Sam? Sam Levin Sen.

So he told the story that when he was talking to Border Patrol people, he saw a picture and that was the picture and it was a real thing that happened. So they did that. Before you. His story over here. That's crazy. I like, I'm going to see that. You know I never watched a season before, but I'm going to watch the season.

Yeah. I think I'm definitely going to see it all the way through. Daryon said he was bored through it. I didn't think it was that boring. I was kind of intrigued, I guess. by like where all of this was going. A lot of people were like Jacob Allorty was phoning and his performance

like is he kind of over it. I'm like I can kind of see that. I thought Sidney Sweeney was really giving her all though. I thought so too. I really did. I'm like yeah. I think she went all in. She went all in.

I'm in sure you to see where it goes. I'm excited for episode five. I kept telling Darian. He's like I don't even know if I'm going to watch season. I'm like, don't worry episode five. And he kept getting. mad at me because I wouldn't tell him why episode five? Wait, really? Why didn't you tell him?

I'm like, just wait until episode five. He's like, why? Why episode five? I'm like, you got away and see. Oh, you should tell him. Then maybe he'll be more gagged. Like, I'm really into it. Yes, episode five. We know from the editors, as we met at the show, they told us like you're in episode five because like no one told me also did not know the title. Everyone's like you don't know the title when you're filming. I was like, no, they didn't even tell us it was euphoria. They called it L.A. Knights. You know what I mean? Like, they did not give us the title. And yes, mine is called this little piggy, which is gagged. Honestly, like, you know that, like, you know that little question mark hater on Twitter loves to be like look at this little piggy she was the

first or he whatever was the first person to tell me and they were trying to mean it as like gag me bad but i was kind of gagged down it's kind of like work i love it i have a feeling knowing my scene it has it doesn't have to do it with me i don't think they titled it after my character but i kind of like the idea that that's what it is you realize your name your character's name is piggy and you had no idea that would be I'm doing the content with a snout. They're CGI. They're CGI is snout, aren't you? Oh my God.

That would be so funny. I don't think it has to do with me that title, but it is a crazy one. And it would be... Bought twist has to do with Shane Dawson. That was my first thought. Oh my God. I would actually be gagged.

Because originally they told me that like maybe potentially another influencer was on it. But when I was on set, I was looking at all the trailers and I didn't see another one. Remember what they told me? But I'm like, I don't know if they kept it. I don't know what.

I don't know. And I would imagine that person would have been announced. I don't know. that would be gaggy if it was Shane because I think it was like me I was supposed to be like another person It's what I like heard I don't know I didn't see anyone else

I literally filmed with literally one other person In the scene that's it Yeah they would have been there announced Just like they announced your name Yeah Yeah even one of the former euphoria Star is Barbie Ferreira was on Who was she on?

She's on a few She's promoting a movie right now So she made the rounds The podcast rounds She was on a podcast that looked really well produced And really well lit and she said she asked the cast, is Trisha Padas on you? Oh, yes. Did you see this clip? I was like, is Trisha Pitas on?

And everyone's like, I don't know. Wasn't it an Australian guy? Was it the same Australian guy with the... Oh, was it? He was Australian and like similar age, so I thought maybe, but I wasn't sure. That looked like that particularly. Like, they do have a similar look to them. That would be gaggy if it was him. Maybe it was. And she's like, yeah, I was asking everyone, like if on the cast of Trish Padas, I'm like, I don't know. So to clarify, I have one scene where I should.

shot with one character on the show. That was it. There was no other person in the scene. So people would not know it would be a little gaggy unless she asked that particular. Yeah. And they've all said, like each of the actors have said, like, they don't know what was going on in the other character's storylines. Like they just got scripts for themselves and their character.

And then they didn't see like how everything else was going to come together. Yeah. So that's how I feel. I didn't even have a script. So I don't know how it comes to it. I truly. I'm not even kidding what I say. I'm like, I have no idea how it comes together.

comes together. I was like, no idea. But I don't know anyone else. It's like, that's the gag of all. I had an improv with the storyline. I didn't know what's happening. Like, I hadn't seen the first two seasons fully. No idea what was happening in the season. And like, just go. I was like, because in the premiere, the director said, like, the biggest problem was scheduling because all the stars are now so big and so sporadic. Like, they're all out there. So they probably really shot. That's why the show does feel that way that each star is kind of like in their own little bubble by themselves. Yeah.

You know, because each one was just shot by themselves in their own schedule. I'm excited to see it. Especially because the editors did say, I don't know if we gave it up down here, but the editor at the premiere did say they were like, you're memorable part. You're memorable, which is like kind of crazy because I don't think it was, I didn't think my performance was memorable. But I love it. You know, editors, they can add at you to look at music.

So maybe it was great. I don't know. I have no idea. So we'll see. I can't believe there's the alternate universe where originally, Rue was supposed to be like a detective and she was supposed to be like solving crimes before season three was rewritten that was the original direction what yeah wait what do you mean what happened i think it was pre-rider strike pre-rider strike the concept for season three was ru was going to be a detective solving some kind of crimes

like she was going to have her own detective agency i guess and the 180 yeah she's so bad asses i like love her in this role i love this character so much Like, that makes me want to go watch the first of her scenes. Did you ask Sandia if they named her character after RuPaul? Did you ever guess at the bottom of that? I can't confirm. I cannot confirm. I'll say after my episode what we, whoever I was in talked about, but maybe it was.

I would be so glad. I can tell you. I can genuinely ask. Can't confirm her tonight. Sam Levinson. Did you name the character after RuPaul? Well, I asked some stupid questions. I'll tell you that.

There was a lot of stupid things I said. And I was like, oh gosh, I'm one of those people who just can't stop saying dumb but, you know, I love. I'll let you know after May 10th. Mother's Day, it airs. How fitting. Also, my dad's 70. There's a lot happening on May 10th.

Euphoria. And then May 11th, they have a big announcement. There's a lot happening. So stay tuned for May. I know there was so much. I think I was on a plane. I was texting all the hot topics. I'm like, how we're missing everything happening right now.

Katie Perry's vagina. Is that even on there or no? Oh, yeah. Don't worry. I did have Katie Perry's vagina on me with Ruby Rose. Oh my God, that one's so gay. We were right yesterday. That was wild.

Yeah. And the latest update today is Katie Perry's being investigated by Australian police over Ruby Rose's sexual assault allegations. Because Ruby did file a police report in Australia. Recently? This morning it came out. Does it? Oh, okay. I thought it has to, isn't there like a statute of limitations?

There is statute of limitations. It might be different in Australia because it happened in 2010. And it happened in Australia? In Melbourne. Yeah. And you don't know about this? She said that Katie Perry rubbed her disgusting vagina on her. Ruby's words.

I don't know. I said that she accused her of something, but I didn't know the details. The disgusting vagina is crazy because it's like, do we have to put all that in there? I mean, I get it. You felt traumatized. Also, for context, too, this happened because people kept reposting Katie Perry at Beberchella that video. Yeah, and Ruby Rose commented on that and just like drop this tea in there. Like.

On a comment? Yeah. commented under like people quoting the Katie Perry music comment about seeing Justin Bieber and was like, thank God he has YouTube premium. I don't want to see no ads. And then she commented under there with these allegations. Then someone's like, go file police reports or she did?

I think it just blew up and started getting a lot of coverage. And then originally she said she wasn't going to file a police report, but she ended up doing it, I think, yesterday. And then today they released, the police department released the statement that they were going to be. investigating. How? I guess she's getting like different statements.

Yeah. It is crazy how it all just like happened. Like just leaving the comment and then it just got a lot of pickup. And then, um, yeah, the direct quote for the allegations were, um, she saw me resting on my best friend's lap to avoid her and bent down, pulled her underwear to the side and rubbed her disgusting vagina on my face until my eyes snapped open. And I projectile vomited on her. And then she went on to say that Katie is more than welcome to sue me.

She won't because it happened. I have photos. And it was literally in public and witnessed by multiple people. Klessler is so much more that happened in the years leading up to her silly song that she won't want me discussing. The psychological manipulation was strong with that one. She added. My God. And a rep for Katie Perry denied the claims and said the allegations being circulated on social media by Ruby Rose about Katie Perry.

are not only categorically false, they are dangerous, reckless lies. Ms. Rose has a well-documented history of making serious public allegations on social media against various individuals, claims that have repeatedly been denied by those names. I mean, all that's crazy. It's really crazy. Both of them made me be like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. I don't know. I know.

It is kind of like ping pong. Yeah. I guess we'll wait and see. Because if she has pictures. Like, that is a bold statement to be like, sue me because it happened. I have the pictures. Like, damn. And now.

Other reports and incidences are coming out in light of Ruby's allegations. Like this interview went viral yesterday from Anna Kendrick in doing an interview with Conan O'Brien in 2014. And she told the story meant to be just like a funny anecdote about she went to Katie Perry's party. And she said that Katie finger-bangged her cleavage. And everyone was like laughing. at the time. The direct quote was Katie Barry, finger banged my cleavage. It was a weird night. And she said that she, because of her outfit, like her boobs were up, she was like, I kind of was asking for it. If nobody had done it, it would have been a little sad. So she kind of like played it off. But now, obviously, that story is like looked at differently.

Yeah. And then in 2019, now this is getting picked back up. In 2019, a model who starred in her teenage dream, music video claimed that he was at a party and she Katie was introducing him to her friends and she pantsed him like underwear and pants and he was just flopping around and he was completely exposed in front of people at her birthday party at a roller skating rink and it was in 2011 so there's like a lot of other stories coming out. in light of rubies allegations, which is nuts. But I don't know what to think on this one. I know.

Crazy. Yeah. Crazy. The disgusting vagina was a little nuts, but also then her lawyer being like, oh, she has a history of this. I hate when people do that too. And they're like, she has a history of being crazy online or something to. I don't know.

It was just a wild headline. So I think that's why I was kind of gagged by it. I was like, I'm talking about yesterday. I was like, damn. I know. It felt so out of nowhere. Like, again, I guess contextually because it was on a post of Katie being funny at Gojohnie. To like drop all of this.

Yeah. It's like, oh, damn. It is crazy. But I mean, she's going all the way with filing a police report, getting investigated. She says she has witnesses and photographic evidence. Yeah. So what happens?

They have to go to trial? I guess. I have no idea where it goes from here. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And Katie hasn't said anything. She just denied the allegations via her rep. And then she posted on her Instagram story,

her song, by the grace of God. It's always God You always go to God When you're in that heat You say God has got me Well And promote your own music Was that her song?

Yeah, from prison I did love that song It was about her divorce From Russell Brand And how she Relyed on God to get through it So she's relying on God for this one I guess so yeah

Well Let's hope It's not true Moral story Don't rub your disgusting vagina on anyone What? It's crazy It's crazy

I feel like even in my craziest days, I've never, like, thought to, like, move my underwear and the sign and, like, run my vagina on somebody. I would also protect that out of all that. I would have to submit the same reaction to Ruby Rose. Like, I don't know what I would do. Oh, my God. I just, like, I cannot even picture anybody doing that, but not even, like, an unhoused person on, like, drugs, like crack or something doing like. That is crazy.

I guess they. How do you get that close to somebody? The TMZ or, no, there was a publication in Australia that interviewed. the owner of the club where it happened and said that like he remembers Ruby and Katie being drunk that night so I guess they were Katie was allegedly just

drunk and being wild allegedly. Allegedly. If it's true. I mean that might be the wildest thing I've ever heard from any celebrity like I know. Because Twyndt she is popular she's probably like the height. Wouldn't you say like 1010? Because 2012 she did the school. Yeah. I would think that's like her

era. Yeah, because Teenage Dream came out August 2010. So maybe it's right before. Is that her first big one? Teenage Dream was like when she blew up. Like she still had hits with like hot and cold and I kissed a girl. But Teenage Dream is when she became like pop icon for sure. Yeah.

Before Roar. Yes. Teenage Dream is before Roar. So. Katie Cat over here. Resident Katie Cat. Oh, yeah. I lived for her back in the day.

Teenage Dream was everything to me. I don't know if she says. the month. So maybe it was like pre-blow-up. Because the first era was one of the boys. So she was like a little bit, you know, not like the other girls coded. Yeah. She was the original pick-mey, huh?

And it's okay. I feel like everyone is, I don't mind a pick-me. Especially back then, you know. Yeah. It was, that was the thing to be not like the other girls. So. Yeah. But some people are still picnies.

Team, yes. But I, my next book is going to be called DeCenter Men and your life will be better. Because I think that's the secret. You know what? Yeah. Because you were like, wow. Judge Nies needs to teach me her ways. I'm like, how about just don't wait around for must-de-men ever?

You know what I mean? De-centered them and your life will flourish. Katie Perry and all these other babies. Men is not, they're not that. You know? Ooh, okay. More, I guess, men drama. Please tell me you've seen this stuff about Lena Dunham's new memoir and all the

tea that's come out of it. Yeah, when you said Jack Ahtonoff earlier, I was just like, what's up with this guy? What's up with her, though? Also, just me just, like, judging my memoir too of what? I have all these weird anecdotes, but what's up with this girl? I know, especially when they're like taken out of context too. That part. Can I tell you?

I saw Lydia when I was in New York because she's like based in New York, my agent. And actually like telling me like little highlight, she's clipping from the book because she's like the first one like read it outside of my publisher and stuff like that. And she's like, oh, we'll do these highlights. And like some of the title sound crazy. I was like, wait, the way that's where it sounds like insane. Like I. So yes, I can understand when these are like taken out of context how insane they sound.

But also. I'm seeded for it. I like Lina Denham. Right? We like her or no. I think. She's very controversial. Oh, okay.

Maybe we don't. I don't know. My God. I forget. I forgot. I forgot where she said it. Maybe she had a different book where she talked about, like, touching her sister inappropriately.

Okay. That's, yes. That's bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

And right. So. She stopped writing books. Yeah. Because it's kind of not. So she's controversial for sure. And the big headline was that she admitted to cheating on Jack Ansinoff, who was getting close to a quote teen pop star and who is that who's the team pop star is moses's

his favorite artist lord who he saw at cocella oh wait really i didn't know this tea yeah so it's like so tumbler coded because lord worked with jack antonoff on the album melodrama which is like literally one of the greatest albums of all time wait what you're a lord fan i love lord i love melodrama specifically is like a pivotal album. Is this the Royals song? No, that's her debut. Her debut song, Gaggett was Royals. Like she came out swinging with Royals.

But like it wasn't that good, right? Like when you look back at Royals? Oh, I love. It does not hold up. It does not. If you listen to it now, you're never going to mop it. I love that girl. I love Lord.

Oh, white teeth teens. Don't get me started. Like, I live for Lord. Everybody in their mom was doing like covers of that song on like YouTube. A diamond in the flame. Awful. It makes me when I like...

Oh, I love it. I actually think that might be the worst song ever. Like, no offense to Lord, fans are Lord. Liars. It was Gaggy. You can call me Queen. I just remember all the worst people were covering this song. And there was like a clown covering it.

There was all these girls that thought they were Lord. And they were taking it so seriously. And you're just like, the song's not good. No, I live for the debut album. Pure Heroin. Gagget, it's so good. P. Marlon. Nala drama.

I fear music Pee. Like she was, it's perfection. All its pop, perfection, Melodrome. I didn't know she didn't wear music. Oh, she just released a couple months ago. Okay. Damn. Well, I mean, no shade to Lord, but I did not know this lore.

The Lord Lord, Lord. Yeah. Oh, wait until you get into her. She had a secret Instagram account where she reviewed Onion Rings and it got exposed. And it was a whole. Okay. Excuse me a little pick-me vibes, but I don't know. We're like that.

She was a pick-me up first. Yeah. She definitely was a pic-me up first. was like she was anti pop girl like she hated taylor swift there's this one tic-tok i always see now of selina gomez i don't know if you've seen it because it's like it always comes up on my f-yp to this day where selina's like gets asked about who what music she's listening to she's like i listen to this girl lord she doesn't like me but whatever i think her music's cool because lord back in the day when she was a teenager was vicious she would go around slandering every pop girl yeah

it was crazy yeah but i guess a teenager's like that those girls yeah but you were a dance Yeah. Well, after Lord talked about Taylor, Taylor responded by sending her flowers and then Lord apologized for like being in. Oh, get it with honey. And then they became friends. Fly with honey. Yeah.

What pop girl were you not a fan of? I feel like you were a stand of everybody. Back in the day or currently? Back in the day. Like of the main pop girls? Like you love Selena, Miley, Demi, Lord, Taylor. That is actually a good. I feel like you loved everyone.

I was like, Katie Perry. The main pop girls, yeah. Was there a main one that you didn't care for? Boys is easier. I never was gagging for the Jonas Brothers. I'm so sorry. Joe seems like pretty nice. I never gagged for the Jonas Brothers.

I think I'm a pick me. I think I'm gag for the Jonas Brothers because when he came out with Demi on her opening night, I was like, I was like crying. Even though I do not watch Camp Rock or any of this thing. I'm like, oh my God, he's, I came out. No, I didn't move. But I didn't move when Selena was in the audience. I moved.

I was like, okay, those are my sisters. sisters love them but jb even jbby both jbbs joe bros and jeson beber i like the first album i tap my foot so it's too late now to say sorry i do you like joe bros we have saying joe bro's word for word camp rock what's the difference demi lavato sold me on camp rock it's the same joe bros demi was why i was seated for campbuck no we have definitely saying other joe bro song i know burning up i know love bug i know year 3,000 and that's exactly that's like you and me made other plans like we've saying that one. Well, it's... SOS. Yeah, we sang that one together.

Because the Disney Channel was trying to shove him down my throat. So, okay, you like a Joe Bros. I didn't watch the Jonas Brothers Disney Channel show. I didn't really have one. Yeah, they were really... It's kind of cute, Joe Jonas. I want to hook him with my sister. And now Disney is giving them the honor of being a Disney legend.

Like, they're the next ones to be, like, inducted. I'm like, before Selena and Demi and Raven. The Patriarchy. Is Hillary even in it? I don't know. No. So I'm like... Sorry, sorry, women.

We're not getting any opportunities. We just won't. And I think that is back to our Coachella, the Sabrina and Justin about. You're so right. She is getting squirted up into the air, 20 feet above Coachella. And everyone's like, you suck. Justin's like, right. Justin's like, let's find some YouTube.

Okay. All right. The artistry. The artistry. This is so intimate. But it's so true. Same thing with Jonas Brothers. You're so great.

Like there's all the girls. Obviously are the ones who make it because the girls are what the girls want to see. And the Jonas Brothers get it. But again, that's just the world we live in. So send those firstborn daughters down the rivers. Just keep the boys. Malbu and I'm sorry, don't tell you. Aquaman, you will rise.

It's just, it's sad. That's so sad. I mean, the whole Jonas Brothers is crazy, but I know Jonas Brothers Slater here. I feel like we've been close to him on the podcast when I was in New York. They're like, oh, Jonas Brothers like might be interested. And I was like, I don't know what happened. I think we were like close to it happening and that didn't happen.

And, you know, obviously I did ship Can't Rock. And obviously you kept that show alive that Kevin and Franklin hosted one. Oh my God. Bring back claim to fame. That was my favorite show. Bring that back. I think I do like the Jonas Brothers.

I like them a lot, actually. So if you guys want to come on. I don't hate them. I just, I don't gag. I'm not gagging for them, but I don't hate it. They're pretty good. But, oh yeah, back to the Lord. Oh, yeah.

So the T here is that everyone kind of speculated that Lord and Jack Antonoff when they were collaborating on the album Melodrama that, they were having some kind of affair. This was back in 2016, 2017. And how old is Lord? So Lord at this time is 18 and 19.

And Jack Antonoff was 34. Okay. What? How old is he now? 42. How old is Markerqually? She's younger. I think maybe 26.

I guess he looks pretty good. All those like nerdy guys look young. Oh, my gosh, she's 31. Oh, okay. I thought she was so much younger. Yeah, I thought she was really young, too. Um, so What's up with this guy?

Why does everyone like him so much? Like, he's not hot. Jack Hansonov has some game because he was, he dated Scarlett Johansson. Um, he's with Lena Dunham for a while. And then yeah, with Margaret Qualie now. And I think because he's like an artist. Like he was in the band bleachers. He does solo stuff.

He produces for like everybody. Lana Del Rey, Lord, Sabrina, Taylor. Um, and I think to, to preface, I do think it says something about him if every big female pop star feels comfortable like collaborating on very personal projects with him and they feel safe with him as a producer. So I do think that kind of says something.

Because the show that's supposedly about him, the one with Meg Stalter, what was that one called? We watched it. What was that one called? God, I watched it. Do you remember that one I watched? The one with Meg Stalter. Oh, too much.

Too much. So that one was supposed to be like loosely based on Jack Antonoff. Like they show him going with, Oh God, what's that girl? Emily Rotatowski is like the other girl that he goes with in that one. And she makes him seem like such an asshole on that show. Like he's the worst. But then she's like, I cheat on him.

I'm like, girl, well, I knew were the worst. Do he didn't say that in that little episode? Yeah. She admitted that she cheated on him. And it all kind of spawned when Jack Inshonoff was working with Lord on her album. And she said, well, she always just calls her like the young pop star. And she said the young musician was sprawled across our sectional couch. in a Jack's lap as he told her,

your teens are for experimenting in a tone so comforting and almost brought tears to my eyes. It had been so long since he'd spoken to me with that kind of expansive generosity. And then she later talked about Jack being locked in a room with a teen pop star whose needs seemed as massive and complex as my own and who called me Aunt Lena

when I hobbled into the kitchen with my walker to grab another bottle of green tea because she was chronically ill and she was getting a lot of testing done and she ended up getting diagnosed with endometriosis. What is that? She ended up having to get a hysterectomy. So it's, yeah.

Oh my gosh. Jeez. So she was really sick at the time and Lord was staying at their apartment working on this album. And their relationship was already kind of falling apart a little bit where they weren't connected as much or having like as much like intimacy. So her seeing him be so like gentle and warm with Lord like kind of triggered her. And then that. Hell yeah, what trigger me too. Yes.

Even if we were in a good relationship, but if he's there caressing, being like the teens, like some teen girl in our house, I'd be like, what the fuck? Like, she's better than me. I would have castrated. I'm like, what the hell?

Because that's crazy. And then on top of it, she's sick and not intimate. That makes it worse. That's when you need to be even more there for that person because obviously the intimacy is not there. Okay, wait, so how is she framing this? Okay, so that makes me like,

what is asshole? But then what is she's, so then she's getting her hysterectomy out, and she's like, well, I'm going to go. Yeah, she ended up cheating on him. And while she was sick? Yeah, yeah. Well, she, it was pre-historectomy, but yes.

Oh, but she has the walker. Yeah. Oh, wait, sorry, sorry. I'm going to make up. So it was after her 2017 hysterectomy where she was able to, like, be intimate again. And then she reached out to her middle school ex-boyfriend and asked to meet him. And then it was like a booty call because he came over with the quickness, she said. To the house with Jack or she's.

broken up with Jack. No, they're still together. Yeah, I guess he just wasn't home at the time. But he came over, she said, within minutes. And she... Minutes is crazy. I don't know if ever called someone in minutes they're over. Okay. She said that they had a multi-day affair, including asking him to do all of the work and washing each other's hair at the same time. But she said she thought the affair ended up helping her relationship with Jack Antonoff because she said, I'd fixed myself, proved I could be the freaky sexy, lively young woman he found love with. What? I had exercised the demon.

In a way, again, I had Fed Nick for both of our sake to make our house a home again. It would all be better now. And then they ended up getting, breaking up after that. So they tried to make it work after the affair. That sounds wild. Also, for the record, Jack

and Lord both deny that they ever had a relationship. And Lena also says that Jack told her, you're just mad because she doesn't want to be your friend. And Lena wrote in the book and he was right. So she also acknowledges that like they probably didn't actually have an affair, but just like the act of him being like kind to Lord.

Yeah. She was staying at their house. Yeah. I mean, there's some intimacy there. Like you're just being arrested. And Lord and interviews would talk about like how she like loved hanging out there and that like it was so nice that Lena would come like give her juice and snacks and stuff.

Some weird. It's weird. It's so weird. And the gag is there is a fan that went viral back in 2017 because they made a whole PowerPoint presentation with like evidence documenting how Lord and Jack Ansonoff were probably having an affair at the time. Is this chronically online girl Nicole Rafi? It is giving that.

Oh, it was not her, but it gives it gives chronically online girl tea. Okay. I love that. And but like it went viral ensemble like it was a whole thing. They it's still up to this day. Like it's preserved. So the gag is that PowerPoint ended up kind of being right because even though Lord and Jack technically didn't have a physical affair, Lena perceived.

it to her acknowledgement as like an emotional affair. Yeah, yeah. Which forced not encouraged her, I guess, to go and have an affair of her own. So. Leaving always sounds bad shit crazy, but I like it. I want to read it. Even from that show. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm like, this is an odd show, but it makes me curious. It's wild. And the gag is too, like, Lena is still like really close with Taylor Swift. Oh. Jack Antonoff is still, to my knowledge, I guess, really good friends with Taylor Swift, too. And they haven't collaborated on this last album, but the past, like, five. They've collaborated Taylor.

Lord is still pretty good friends with Jack and Taylor, TVD on Lena, I suppose. Probably not. Sabrina Carpenter just collaborated with Jack Antonoff. She's friends with Taylor, Lord, Margaret Qualy. Like, there's so much crossover. It's kind of gaggy Because also They are going to be at the Tavis wedding

Because the Taylor's the seating chart The Taylor Travis Kelsey wedding is going to be crazy The man of lore, yeah Wow Crazy Do you invite? I guess you can't invite exes like that Especially if you're talking about a memoir

She weirdly is like very positive about Jack Ansonoff Despite the The tale of Lord and Is Jack Havtsoff saying anything? Is he doing any? No. nothing she's hardest on Adam driver weirdly from what I've seen they dated they co-starred on girls together the show Adam driver was on girls yeah and he was her love interest on it oh good for her and

she goes really hard on him I there's I haven't read it yet I just seen the excerpts of where she says that like he they were kind of like toxic where he would like yell at her on set allegedly and she thought that they were gonna like hook up but he was also like dating someone at the time who we ended up marrying so it's yeah she's giving me she is giving delusional but i like it but also me someone's just like acting with you and you're like are we looking up actually he because she was there's something i'm just like paraphrasing but like she kind of claims that she could have if she wanted to you know are we sure are we sure about that if you ended up marrying her i don't know She's, okay.

She's giving him bonkers. Oh man, you'd hate to have Lena as your ex, but also hate to have me as your ex. You know what I mean? Like, it probably is one of those things with like, oh, shit. Another memoir from Lena Dunham. And he's just trying to live his life with market quality, getting Grammys, whatever he's doing. He sounds weird too, but it would be awful to have an ex like that. But I am at X for a lot of people, so I get it.

Yeah, and poor Lord, too. Because now she is getting dragged into it. She was a freaking teenager at the time. Like she had just gotten out of a relationship. Well, she had mentioned her my name, I guess. She said teenage pop star. She was a kid pop star who collaborated with very closely in the summer of 2017. An album that rhymes with Schmelo Shmama.

Yeah, it is. I know. Unfortunately, I know. That's very the tan of it all too. Like when I knew Tanna and like back in the day, like 19, it's kind of like, well, she was like 19. And like how much. And you can't put that much on that person. Hopefully she makes that clear that she didn't hold her.

Like, does she have like animosity towards her? It doesn't seem like she holds animosity towards either Jack or Lord, to be honest. But I'd say, okay. I do love the quote, the T. Yeah. The quote where she would call her Aunt Lena, though, is crazy. Like. Yeah, that's getting Manson family.

And the only reason I say that is because, like, she was in the Quentin Tarantino movie where she played like a Manson family. Margaret Quali's sister. Yes. They were like, and they called her mama in the movie. They were always like, hey, mama. Like, and so Lena Dunham was like the mom of all the sister wife, hippie girls and and whatever.

And I was like, yeah. And there's, yeah, there's that scene of them where Lena Dunham's, like, holding on to Margaret Quali. And they're, like, hugging and, like, being free. And she sounds, even the cheating to be like, it brings us, it'll bring us closer. You sound crazy. But again, I'm here for it. You just sound insane. She's a lesbian now?

Is she? Is that what the story, the movie was, right? The too much she was, like, ended up being, like, a lesbian. I really she was a lesbian in real life. I can't remember. I don't know, the war. she's married to a man right now a British Peruvian musician Luis Felber Okay good for her

Since 2021 Peruvian And British what a combination Yeah that's a good combination Love that all right good for Kind of selling me on the book I'm very curious She's messy

Yeah very messy She is polarizing sometimes I'm like you sound crazy Sometimes I'm like oh no not you girl but then I'm like I do love you I have a soft spot for it we could play sisters. I think when I saw the too much, I was like, damn,

I would love to play this role because it was, it is a good role. It was great. Meg Salter was great in it though. So, all right. Yeah,

I love, you know, I was seeing all those headlines and I was like, this is. I know, there's a lot to unpack with every article, too.

I guess she covers a lot of ground in that book because, so tell all. Yeah. Tell it all. And did. And did. My favorite story,

though, I think, I just, I can't wait, I have to get to it, is Alex Alex versus Alex, white girl on white girl crime

my favorite genre. This was so gaggy in New York. I'm just like oh and everyone was kind of gagged. Everyone in the moment was just like oh my god Alex Cooper posted about Alex or like so gagged I'm so here for I will just preface

I feel like this is just they want to talk about it so it's annoying because I feel like it is just all for like some weird publicity but if it's not I don't know but I do love a drama that's not mine and it's so messy and so stupid. Yeah, it's low stakes because it's like, it's probably if it's real like over money, I'm assuming, or contracts or whatever, like very low stakes business stuff because at the end of the day, they're both still rich and pretty. So like nothing's going to happen.

Dave Porter being in the middle of it. He was doing updates by his house. I thought he quit podcasts. And then here he is, FaceTiming. He's on a boat in the middle of the ocean still trying to spill some tea. And he's talking to both of them. He's coming back with updates from Alex Cooper and Alex Earl. He's like, actually, this is what they said.

He's going on podcast about it. Yeah, the Alex and Alex. It's a press tour for it. In women's business, too many will always find Harry Jousy and Dave Morgan. Oh, my God. You were so right. In women's business, no matter what. Not making any money off it either.

He doesn't even have the BFS podcast. He's literally just giving interviews to be messy. You can't help it. I don't see it for it. But I know. I saw chicks in the office talking about it. And one of the hosts was like, oh, it sounds like a law firm. And I was like, oh, my God, it does.

They said Cooper and Earl. But the Alex and Alex is the law firm. That is like where it's at very. Morgan and Morgan coded. But okay. Alex Cooper versus Alex are all. And you know what? We're all confused.

Everyone's like, who thought these were the same people? Everyone thought they were the same. Like, they really are. Like, obviously we're in the influencer world we know. But even I do. I have to think about it. I'm like, which one is Alex Cooper,

which is obviously no. But it is so confusing. One of them has to change the name or their hair color or gain some weight or something because you all look the same. Gain some weight. It's crazy. Yeah. Because they have the same body.

So be like skinny Alex and fat. Yeah. Oh my God. All right. Well, I just say, you didn't have to say it there for Alex. No, you don't have to say it. No, you still need to say.

You can't say Alex and Alex. Yeah, you just, you think fat Alex. We don't say fat Alex. Which one are you manifesting to be about Alex? You know, I don't know. I can't even. No, it's just or little Alex, big Alex. You know, it's like you have.

Oh, my God. Well, okay. Never. I'm right. Alex. Alex, Josh Alex Cooper put it out. That's why it screamed like publicity stuff to me. Because like Alex Cooper, like Alex Cooper,

Like Alex Cooper, I think, in my opinion, has the most to lose in general. Like, there was a fight to go up. I think Alex Earl would win. I think Alckel Cooper has the most to lose. She has the brand. I mean, Alex Earl is an up-and-comer, but she doesn't have a brand. No one's doing, what is that called? Real Activs.

You know what I mean? Everyone wants that call her daddy brand. I don't know if anyone's. So I wouldn't, yeah. Didn't she do Super Bowl commercial? Who? Earl. Earl.

She did the car. Was that for the Super Bowl? Yes. Because some speculation is that that's the beginning of the... Dave Portner. He called Alex Cooper and she said, you couldn't even give me $10 million to do that commercial. That's not what it was about.

I would never do that in a million years. That means that's the issue. I don't think that. I don't think the c-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. They had the same publicist, right? Not anymore, but they did. They did. Well, it was Alex Cooper.

According to Dave Porter, all my stuff comes from Day-Porty. Day-Pornner said that they were best friends, Alex Cooper and the publicist. Like, they were BFFs. They were at dinners together, whatever. And then she became Alex Earls publicist. Obviously, that's probably where the whole unwell thing happened. And then now she's no longer Alex Cooper's publicist and just Alex Earls.

So maybe it has more. That's like if someone poached Oscar from me, Tanna poachers Oscar. Maybe I'd be like, hmm, I don't know. I guess it's like it's a hard one to say because it's like on one hand it's like, oh, yeah, you'd want to like share it around. But then it's like maybe, I don't know. I don't know how that works. No, but big publicists work with more than one person.

Yeah. They can't have their entire career dedicated to one August. I don't know. I was just trying to speculate something, but... I don't know if it's the same one. I know for sure Alex Cooper at one point was working with, like, Kim Kardashian slash J-Lo's publicist. And I don't know if it was the same one. I just remember when I interviewed her, people were like, you have to be...

When I was editing, the interview, they're like, you have to be careful because she does Kim and J-Lo. And if we piss her off, we're not going to get him anymore. Oh, so it must be the same because it seems like this throws a big deal. And this was last year around Super Bowl. And what's the publicist do again? does like all the press related stuff whether like setting up interviews or if someone like asked for a statement or going with you to red carpets like public appearances oh what makes a good one like why is this person so good that she's like with the Kardashians and i think ability to

like control the narrative is like a big one um connections to the networks and the magazines so if you want to go on a late night show you want a newspaper to write a certain angle on you Maybe I need a publicist. What do we know anybody? Moses, not. No, Moses is not. He needs a publicist. He needs a publicist for him.

It can be everything else for me, babe. I don't know if publicist is one of those. What do you mean? Narrative is what I do. Okay. But I tried to do another deep dive into the lore because I really didn't care for the longest time, to be honest. I remember what Alex Earle signed with Alex Cooper for the unwell

network to have the hot mess with Alex Earle podcast. Yes. Kind of is news fest to me, but I'm sure some people were seated for it. Yeah. And then seemingly out of nowhere, the Unwell Network had nothing to do with Alex Earle's podcast anymore. They released a statement that a hot mess about Alex Earl wasn't going to be involved with the Unwell Network.

And Alex Cooper said that she had nothing to do with the podcast being dropped. but Alex Earl said that, hinted that there was drama between the two and she posted a TikTok saying, hinting that she had like stuff to say it's he to spill and this was back in August like years ago. She's been saying it, yeah, like Alex Earl has always been

the instigator. Yeah, she's always been like the drama and Alex Cooper, as per usual, doesn't say anything about any drama. And then a couple months later, this is where you got involved is when When Alex Cooper posted the TikTok from the Unwell Awards, I guess. Yeah.

To circus. Oh, you didn't know this? Oh, even Tanner released a statement on this. So I thought you guys, I thought you guys, like, touched base on how to, how to address this. And the British Bears song? She released, like, two TikToks addressing how you and Ro are involved. Yes. What?

I mean, I love to be in it. All right. We're all in the thumbnail together. I'm dead. Okay. So Alex Earl on Dancing with a Stars dance to circus by Britney Spears. Okay. And then a couple weeks later posted a TikTok of the guests at the Unwell Awards in Vegas.

And you guys did it to Circus by Britney Spears. And Alex Cooper put in the comment or the caption, how much time do you have? because we could go all night. And that was paraphrasing what Alex Earle said about on TikTok when someone asked her to spill the tea on Alex Cooper. She replied and said, how much time do you have? So then Alex Cooper pretty much like...

Why the phrase is addressing what Alex Earl said. In the... Chris Ross in the penis. But what's the shade? What is even... That she used circus. And that's the song Alex Earl danced to and dancing with the stars. And you were in the TikTok.

But what was the shade? like the jab being like look like the caption being it's not like we were a raxon you know what i mean like what is the like no one has anything brittie spurious is popular no one has any connection to alex earl and that no it's just i Alex cooper putting in the caption what Alex earl said on tic talk how much time do you have we could go all nights right i got that but what is the jab implication people are just saying that like it was shade because she used a song they're really even though the ticot itself it was just you got you guys there and like a mashup of all the guests that were at the... Well, I can confirm she said,

let's get Alex Earl and who said, let's do it. Whatever you say, Father Cooper. We're going to jump her. And we're like, yes, this is what we want. That's crazy. I don't know who was that. Was that Des Mois putting that together? Like, who put two and two together for that?

All the TikTok investigators. This is the timeline that everyone has put together. So all the way back to last, last, what was that? October. October. ours was October. That is a crazy caption to put with other creators. We did not partake.

What did you say? Basically that. She had no idea that it was because she's not up to date with Alex Cooper or Alex Earl like that. So I had no idea that it was even like somehow involved with the drama. I might blame whatever publicist. I feel like a publicist has something to do with it. Because I will say when we do call our daddy and on, well, I think people just know

this. Like she has a social team. Like there's like 20 people doing socials. So I would be surprised if Alex Cooper put that as the caption, but maybe, I don't know. She seems to someone who, like, doesn't know what's going on. In, like, the best way. She's, like, busy. She gives me, like, you know, like, Tyra.

Like, they give her the bullet points and you're just going to ask those bullet points and no follow-up questions. And that's it because she's busy. She's like, I'm worth $180 billion. Like, I don't even need to read these questions about you. And that's what it gives me even at unwell. Were you there with me? No, you know weren't there with me. But it's just quick.

Everything's quick. You talked to her for like a minute. She's like, thanks. She's on to the next. You know, we did like 30 TikTok. I don't know. It seems like someone is orchestrating this sort of. Yeah, that would make sense.

Because also like, you know, again, the little Oscar over there that's like in charge Alex Cooper's TikTok, that's like, ooh, this will get the girls talking. Can I tell you there's a little Oscar everywhere? Every company. Chronically online, messy little gay boy. Everybody, all the brands. You know me in the Chili's commercial? I said, okay, Miss Diva.

What is I? What is that girl? And I'm like, can we see the reference? I don't know what I'm okay miss girl I'm going for your tea mama but can I see the reference diva I'm like I trust you but let me just know where I'm going with this there's always some very specific thing and I

but I love it and it's every brand deal I've worked on which you can probably tell it's a girl or gay and I love it so much because they they get the reference sometimes they'll give me a reference of myself that I don't even know like they'll show me the one from the Chili's the sorry wait what did I say no thank you no thank you I was like It's mine? Like, yeah, you don't see it on the compilations.

And I see my compilation. That I've never seen as like a compilation. When you're like crying and like, no, thank you. No, thank you. I mean, I saw it when they showed it to me, but I'm like, I didn't know this was like a circulation meme. Have you seen that one? Oh, yeah. It comes up all the time.

Yeah. Do you remember that day? We were together. Do you remember that day? I was in that little butling. I was calling you out of hysterical. I guess you could, well, it doesn't matter. But that girl, remember the girl that I was upset about?

I was hysterically crying and I was making a video about in response to somebody because we were in beef because I was so shaken up by it and then someone just like comes along to the car like not right now I don't know even what's happening but it was at the Riteite in the City

and I was recording a song and this girl that did like me and I guess I didn't like her I just remember she released something that I was like shaken by and I was like so and like anyways but I remember we were together and I was just so hysterical

I think that was 2021. I think that was a lone moment, but I also loved to monetize it. Anyways, I sidetrack. There's always an Oscar, and I'm always appreciative of them for sure. I'm always like, thank you. And shout out to the brands

for hiring these cool Gen Z years because they have their hand on the pulse. Anyways, all right. Back to, yes, back to Unwell. Actually, okay, well, I won't give too much information about somebody I did work on in the Chili's worked at Caller Daddy, and I had seen him there. Like, so it was a crossover of it all.

He's like, yeah, we actually shot TikToks at Caller Daddy. And now he has his own company, so that's great. So anyways. and they know, they know what's up. So, yes. Okay, well, that's like a reach. The caption is crazy. The caption is a little messy for sure.

Oh, my gosh. Alex Earl, I think I've seen like two reposts that were like kind of shady towards Alex Cooper. The latest one that got Alex Cooper to respond was like direct as shady as you could possibly get. Because Alex Earl reposted a TikTok that accused Alex Cooper's collar daddy of exploiting women's vulnerabilities from a TikToker called the Bravo Mom. And the Bravo Mom said, I would honestly compare Alex Cooper to an ambulance chaser. Like, you just have the most horrific accident of your life. You're hanging on by a thread.

Don't know if you're going to make it. And she's the first one there. And called her like the grim Alex Cooper, the grim Reaper. Because every time you're going through something, she's going to be the first one to kind of circle around and try to get an interview. Liking to TMZ almost, if you will. Okay, I like that. But that's always been the case. There was always someone like Diane Sawyer you'd go to, like if you wanted to have,

like your truth out there. Tea, that's why like I, I see where the morality of it can come into question, but that is kind of news. Like that's, if you're a public figure, you're going through something, again, the way to like own the narrative is to like do it. Tell your story. Bill your tea at a place where it's safe. Also, especially for women, call her daddy is like a very sympathetic, like women audience.

I feel like if you're a woman who wants to get heard, especially if you look at like, you know, Jesse from. Secret Lives and Mormon Lives. Like, that's a great place to tell her trauma because it's going to be to an audience that will already be, like, understanding and welcoming to her. Yeah. So the Collard Daddy episode, when I did that, I remember so many people, like, texting me. Like, I never ever gotten so many texts to be like, congratulations.

Like, love the episode. Like, people, like, really do love a Collar Daddy. So I would do it all over again. So I'm going to have to be Team Alex Sweep for always because I'm always going to be on Collar Daddy. But, yeah, but that's why I was like surprised because in the TikTok Alex Cooper posted it was like, just say it. Just say what it's about.

And then Alex Earl reposted that one too, right? She reposted it and left a comment that was said, what was the exact quote? Working on it? Working on it. Yes. She's not working on it, exclamation point. It's been like two days. I'm like.

Yeah, we need something a little quicker. Uh-huh. And the only thing she posted so far was just the raw video footage of her sister and friend coming to wake her up. That part was. That was crazy to me. I'm like, what are we even seeing? You just like hung over and like looking at the screen. There was no reaction.

Girl, give us nothing. I was like. Yeah, but that's going to. That's where they create, like you can say content creator knowing if I just drop something now, it doesn't matter what it is, if they get a million of viewers. Be like, I can't believe this is happening. She was calling Java channels. Yeah. Give us Shane Dawson 2019.

Give us that. That's what we want to see. You weren't fake. Crying. She was giving. I don't know about because someone's recording me. Like, give us nothing. But yeah, I don't know.

The whole thing is weird. What are they promoting? It's weird. I don't get Alex Cooper. going into it because it's like girl you have everything you have like the biggest thing everyone's coming on your show i kind of live for it though i feel like i lean towards not PR just because it is kind of like messina boots like i feel like it's getting pickup um from publications every time alex earl shades Alex cooper and i know Alex Cooper is getting those Google alerts and what is it

it's not like oh i have this viral interview it's Alex Earl shading me and i know she sees it every single time and it's been about like five even me like when i look for hot topics like i see it get pick up all the time and it's sometimes always like it feels like nothing burger but it is a headline so i think i think especially this one being so like personal saying that like she um is like a helicoptering has no morals the grim reaper of women's stories to me that's like not bad at all to me i'm like yeah okay i'm that girl i think because it kind of skews the perception of caller daddy and like it's her empire she built. So it's like,

I've noticed that when people, like really business minded people, like this sounds like a crazy example, but Joey with Escape the Night, like when someone shades like the production itself, that's when someone who like is very quiet activates and is like, actually I'm gonna clap back.

So I think because it came for the production itself, she was like, oh, hell no. Like if you want to be about it, be about it. Don't be weak sauce. Don't be vague posting. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I guess so.

I just think like nothing can crumble. I scuba. To me, Joe wrote, right, those two, no matter, like, whatever, controversial, whatever, they're just like a staple. They're just a pillar. It's like ABC News and Fox News or Fox News, no, ABC News, CBS. What's the big one?

Not Fox News. That's the wild one. Yeah. But that's the also, okay, is that a good one or bad one? Yeah. Whatever one we like, anyways, ABC and NBC. Okay, it's like those are like staples that'll be there forever or not actually. I guess with like Google Digital.

Yeah, I don't know. But you get it. Like, you know what I mean? And it's just like, I just think nothing will like crumble that empire. But I guess, yeah. Alex Earl if she becomes bigger. I mean, she's pretty big. Yeah, she's, and I underestimate Alex Earl, to be honest.

As far as influence. Like, obviously I knew she is big on TikTok. But damn, she has shooters because I innately was like, oh, well, I'm kind of feeling Team Alex Cooper, to be honest, because you have statute of limitations to vague post about me about something unsurious, like five months. After five months, like, either at me or be silent. So it would be vague posting for a year, a year, the same old thing, vague posting saying you have tea and you're not saying anything, just being like making all this kind of speculation. Yeah, it's frustrating.

Yeah, especially if it sounds like she knows that it's nothing serious. It's probably, I would assume Alex Earl looked up to Alex Cooper, wanted to follow in her footsteps. Alex Cooper signed her. And then Alex Earl was blowing up too much on her own and realized she was in a deal that wasn't like the best for her. Well, Dave Pornney said that. He's like, Alex Earle should have never signed with Ann Walth. She was already big. Like usually you sign people like that who need help and need the influence, but she was already big.

So like it's not like it would have helped in anyways because those companies are designed to like take a percentage. Right. It's like the team 10 of it all. Like Jake Paul's the star and whoever he makes stars, he'll get a percentage of. But if you're already a star, it doesn't make sense to go there, you know. So I think that was like the first mistake. But I also like you said, I had the Alks Cooper 2. It was like so annoying.

Like, yeah, I've had people be like, you know, I know. I know Trisha has like big secret. I'm like, there's no big secret. All the secrets are out. The secrets are here. The secrets are there. Like the secrets are out. There's actually no secrets for my own book because there's like so many secrets.

So when people are like, I just know something and I would never share Trisha's secret. I was like, but there's no secret. And it is so frustrating. But I'm on such a small scale right. Like I like my podcast is not call her daddy. It's not even pretty basic unfiltered. You know what I mean? It's very.

It's still niche. But it's good. It's grounded. I don't want to like lose it. I love it. And it's like I wouldn't be like combating it. at every single person who's like, I got tea on Trish. It's like, because there's just like not there.

The T's been out or whatever, you know? So I don't, I don't know. It's like kind of weird. But I guess like just calling her out for it. Yeah, I'm kind of, I like Alex Roll too. I really do. I like them both. I think Alex Tril is, like you said, so influential.

I like she is, she is everywhere. Business perspective. I mean, I think Alex Cooper just has her totally beaten. That's why I'm like it's not even, to me they're not in the same caliber in that way. Alex Schrell probably has like a more of a fan base, whereas Alex Cooper just built a really good business. Yeah. And I think too with Alex Cooper, she has some controversy.

I guess people are really jumping on like the mean girl narrative from like stemming from like Sophia with an F to this. Well, Sophia with an F is also a mean girl. Let's not forget telling me I look like I stuck my finger in a socket. It's like a diabolical. And that was crazy. I was like, oh, I feel her. She's like my mental illness. She's like, frizzy hair.

I was like, geez. Oh my God. This episode is brought to you by FedEx. These days, the Power Move isn't having a big metallic credit card to drop on the check at a corporate launch. The real Power Move is leveling up your business with FedEx intelligence and accessing one of the biggest data networks powered by one of the biggest delivery networks. Level up your business with FedEx, the new Power Move. So let's not get to But that's how it swings, right?

That's how it is, yeah But that's definitely like the narrative I see on TikTok a lot Like everyone coming to Alex Earle's defense Because people think Alex Cooper is like more of a mean girl But I'm sorry It just seems like kind of weaks-l to me And we will see if Alex Earl really does come out

With something crazy But to me it just seems like It's been drawn out for so long It's been very vague And I think she hasn't had like a big explosive response because there isn't like that much. I think if she came out and said it would be like, oh, that's it. Because at this point, it's like the drama.

Like all of a sudden we're thinking it must be something so crazy. The twist must be nuts. But really it's just like, oh, you were in like a bad contract that you probably didn't need. Which Alex Cooper said she's like letter out of. She gave her the IP. There was no like holding her hostage or anything. Yeah. So it's just like, girl, what is it?

It's been days. And we, you said you left the comment that you're on it. But we have not something. Well, that was like even her podcast. It took like forever to come out. She did his second one where she was like getting ready. It was like get ready with Alex girl. Like Jake Shane was on it.

She does love to get ready. She loves to get ready. Yeah. Someone said that. She's the get ready girl. And I was like, I told you that. Oh, did you? Yeah, you were like.

Was it here? On the pocket? Oh. And I was like, is that what she's known for? I did not think. Okay. Yeah, I don't. Well, I don't get it.

But I don't get any of this. But I do like a call out. Like, especially from someone like in general not messy. but Alex, if Alice Cooper's a mean girl, Alex Earle also was being shady, like, reposting for a year. So what do you expect? I can only poke a bear so much. Uh-huh.

That's why I don't blame her at all for, like, just going rogue and being like, Alex Earl, say it, girl. Go wild, say whatever you have against me. Yeah. And DA, just say it spill your Tiani. Because it's true. Yeah. That's why Alex Cooper, she won me over with that because I, it reminds me of you back in the day.

That title would just be like, Totsie Demasel. Like, you get straight to it. Yeah. Like, it's no vagueness, no subtlety. It's in the title exactly who you're beefing with. Laura Lee, you're a for giving away that iPad. Not always right, but I could at least respect that you, you know, put it in title. Loyal, you should not have given away the iPad I brought to the White Elephant Party.

Long title. With everybody. Oh, my God, I am so sorry to almost everyone I beefed with. That was, I live. You know what I mean? That was the original. I'm just sorry to people I beefed with that I didn't even know that I never, like, even met or talked to him. Like, that was crazy.

Laura Lee followed me on TikTok. I followed her back. I was like, she's been following me because I said follow back. I was like, all right, love this so much. She was on that Starbucks plane. No ain't, Lori. She's Lori.

She's Lori. Reddha. No, it's right. I love her. She's Laura Lee 88. We're both 88s together. We love it. Yeah, last episode two, people wanted to know who we were talking about at the end.

Should we just say just one line? Because I feel bad. Everyone's like, who was it? We gave no contacts or no. I think people knew, but. people knew yeah Colleen just like wrote a song that said she drugged her kids with melatonin right isn't that exactly what she said said they'll go to sleep something like you want to get that exactly I swear that's what she

said melatonin was the thing but literally I think she said drug with but let me like double check myself so the way I remember it it's implied just a lot of it whatever it was it was no it was insane a lot because the I didn't get that far as the song but I listen to the end I the beginning was the kids kept in to interrupting her and her husband when they were trying to have sex, right? Yeah, which relatable girl, but also not really. Also do it like when, I don't know. Anyways, not that point.

Okay, let's see. I drug them with melatonin. She said it. She said, all right, I drug them with melatonin. That's what was crazy. That's what I was saying. That's an insane thing to say. That's an insane thing to say.

I didn't know the song was about them just trying to have sex. Yes. And I was like, okay, I get it. cutesy but the thing she's having the kids say in the background the first kids has like wipe my butt it's like what are we what but then at the end all right i drug them with maladone and let's get it on my for anyone but specifically girl with your allegations you're you know what i mean like that's oh my god i mean it sounds like a weird she like wrote a song for her husband i guess everything about it's cringe that's not that's not even giving toxic

gossip here at least talks about it was catchy like girl what there's no chorus there's no anything catchy. I hate it. This also makes me want to puke all over everything. It just was so, that's it. And I just wanted to say that because everyone in the comments, like, what are they talking about? And I'm like, I feel like this is insane.

And I slept on it. It's been a week, and I still feel like that's an insane thing to say. And I'm like, I don't, it's just not the change in growth that everyone wants to see is not that. Ned Falmart 2. Did you see him on a podcast going on again about a good? again and everyone's like does this guy just not choose a private life like why do we keep hearing from he kept talking about the affair and how the girl he the affair partner was engaged and the fiance

knew and he was like so worried that he was going to tell his wife but he didn't end up telling ned's wife but he like knew before it all came out and like right before it all came out like while he was cheating for months with this other lady like him and his wife's cookbook was about to come out and he goes and it was really cute we had this cook like he is a psychopath and honestly I think kalee might be a psychopath too because like what do you mean you're three years later like we've grown we've changed and you're doing all of this mess still that's the opposite of growth and change that's insane that's insane that's insane that's insane I feel so crazy I think I mean so much time is past and she just this is her mind that's how her mind

works is her sense of humor this what she thinks people want to listen to I don't know I know I we just keep the boycott a little longer maybe she was just like let me be relatable with you know other parents. Drucking your children with Maud's Pohnen is insane. Like, I can't even think of like how opposite. Like if there's a cream that you have to put a rash, I'd make sure it's not any chemicals. I would never give them anything that they don't have to take.

Well, just have the context so you can have, I don't know, a whole thing is weird, but. Well, is that it for our hot topics? I'm trying to find where the song even came from. I'm assuming it was from the podcast, I think. I saw a short clip of just that one sentence on the podcast, but this song sounds very produced and obviously was recorded. And she recorded her kids' vocals. She had them in the recording booth.

So it means that once again there's more people involved, more people around, and nobody's like correcting her. Be like, well, maybe not. But her herself, like your cancellation was about inappropriate kid jokes, minor jokes. How about get just everything off your mind of that? Like, every, like, that's, but that's what I'm saying. It's like a sickness. It's crazy. Me and Moses sent it to each other, like, at the same time.

We never share anything about her, by the way, just like, for the record. Because, like, she is, she has, I think fully experienced a full cancellation where, like, people just don't watch. I think that's the thing, right? Because people like, cancellation is work, like, click a killer and stuff like that. We obviously, like, his antics get him more views, but, like, truly people don't care anymore. So we just don't see anything. So when this came, I was like, jaw dropped because I was like, what? Yeah, I thought it was like, Adam.

I don't think Adam. I can't hire me to video about it. I was like, Adam, this is what... No one minutes said in the song, like Oscar. Oscar's like, oh, I didn't even see that part. Like, what? So when I saw all the comments, I was like, we needed to say because we were being so vague, and I thought everyone knew.

I thought everyone was, like, gagged. I'm not going to say anything. Because like, okay, let's just keep her cancel. We're not going to say anything. But this is gagging because people don't know. And she put it out. 2013, tiny group chat, whatever that was. What were they called?

Those little... The weenies. The weanies are gone. her family's in Spain like everything is just like what is happening and then she's like oh i got canceled over lies girl this is 2026 i don't know oh my god it's a crazy bar in his job it's a crazy that's actually the craziest thing oh my god i yeah anyways that was the history of time was there ever a crossover between Colleen and did they ever meet?

They were on Joey Christmas together weren't they? Oh, well they were in Definitely Escape the Night Well bleep the one name But definitely Escape the Night We have to bleep her

I'm scared Which one were you in? What's campfire? Oh, that was with Colleen Oh, yours is with Colleen But I think they were both in Escape the Night Yeah

Yeah, all stars They seem like Yeah, it is weird The Multiverse I'm like are they friends That's a good question. Colling was never, like, friends with anyone, but... Besides Joey, I think.

Joey's like, don't put me in there. Rosanna. But I guess they both have denounced her. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know who... Jojo Siwa. Yeah, actually.

I think she just posted a vlog with Jojo Sea Well. Oh. So that's... Okay. Yeah. We just ended there. And... Well, my last one was clavicular.

Oh, that's your hot topic? I was just putting it off because he's kind of crazy. But my hottest one was really that I was eager was Alex v. Alex because I love white girl drama. Yeah, I texted. We text on New York. I'm like, how are we missing? But it was like on a Monday, too. We could have in theory.

I mean, we should episode max. With clad. Yeah. Oh, you love him? No, he put a statement. Do you have that? After his overdose? whatever that was.

Yes. I think it was an overdose, babe. I think that was an overdose. I think it was just like... bleep that. That's a crazy joke. Okay. He did it.

Well, TMZ got the 911 call yesterday of a 20-year-old male overdose, and the address came from where clavicular had been streaming, and then there was videos obtained of him being carried towards an ambulance

on social media, and, uh, a statement that he was stable. And then he ended up releasing a statement today and said, just got home, that was brutal. All of the substances are just a cope trying to feel neurotypical while being in public. But obviously, that isn't a real solution.

The worst part of tonight was my face descending from the life support mask. And he posted a selfie of the life support mask, and his face looked all jacked up. So his face is the... Yeah, so his face is messed up. That's what he's really upset about. Yeah. Of all the other things.

Oh. Like, you should kind of be worried about, like, you know. Oh, got it. Being on life support in the first place. Oh, he hates that. That's why you think it's fake. Oh, I don't think it's fake. I just know that forever people always rumored about substances things.

So I don't know. That conversation was always around him about substances. That was a crazy clip. And getting arrested every week. Well, the parents. Noah too with WoVicky. He like kicked her out of the car because he thought she was trying to set him up.

Like he's like, okay, got her late. Like he was in his eyes were like bulging. No, for sure. Well, he said there were substance. So he himself has admitted he's on some stuff. Yeah, he's, he's interesting. He always talks about being like infertile. He's always just saying like,

was it a 60 minute interview? Yeah, he did a 60 minute interview with a reporter from Australia. It was 60 Minutes Australia. And that went viral because everyone was saying that the reporter Fraymogged and Jester maxed him because the reporter was handsome and also like had his smirk the whole time

like he was eating him up you know. He kind of was huh? He was and he was, the interview was supposed to be focused on like looks maxing. That was what the segment was. There was another looks maxer that the reporter interviewed for the segment as well. But Clav walked out of the

interview when the reporter brought up Andrew Tate in being an in cell basically um because clav said i'm not getting political this isn't political we're talking about looks maxing and he what's political andrew tate's political yes he's a politician he's just like very red-pilled anti-women anti-everything except being alpha male is he even here i thought he's like is he russian or something or what he was oh he was arrested right overseas poland or romania i think romania Okay, I just don't understand.

Okay, but why can- They're here now because Guy Fieri, they came up to Guy Fiery at an event and he shook their hand because he didn't know who they were. And then Guy Fiery had an issue at apology because he doesn't want to be associated with the Tate brothers, but... Yeah, weirdly I get scared of all these people. I'm like, oh, my God.

Like, I don't know why I'm scared to even like talk about that. I don't know anything about it. I'm like, oh, I'm scared. They give me this, everyone gives me sweet vibes. I know, like, oh, don't come from me. Same. I didn't really know much about it. Like, I was saying you with him and the lore and the terminology,

and I've seen clips and stuff. I haven't really heard him talk wrong form. So like a 50 minute interview on 60 minutes. Cut short because he walked out. But I was like, oh, like I didn't know he was actually like this. But he was mad that they called him insult or asked him by Intertate? Both. Like he is weirdly, maybe because he's getting mainstream now, but he's trying to clean it up a little bit, I think.

Because there's a clip that went viral with Andrew Tate where he was. on like a tour not a tour bus but like you know a party bus whatever and he was rapping to Kanye West song Hail who was this which one clav and Andrew Tate oh so he's friends with him yeah so I but I think

now he's trying to clean it up and not be that like controversial but not like see go figure and does it want to address like political stuff like that I think he's trying to keep it in looks maxing because now he's doing fashion week and GQ spreads and stuff. Oh, we talked to, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, don't hurt like trying to be brand. Can I like venture to say like he might have done all those antics to get noticed, right? Like I would, I would find it hard to believe he's an actual, you can believe my word that like it's hard to believe that's like his values. I mean, maybe he does that for shock value. It could be because if you're so, um, when you're so focused about looks and what is the optimal look, you get very close to the theory. that the word of like what's the theory I don't know of like the area and race who who is

basically the superior race and he does walk around like I'm the superior looking person in the room who we're talking about andrew Tate or clavicular clavicular I'm saying like his whole focus on looks could very quickly bring you to think that there is um yeah superior something yeah and any minute you think you're superior in any way in any form you start to walk a very dangerous line. But, oh, and you think that's real? Sometimes I just think like there's, like, some people have to be trolling for, like, attention, but maybe it's real.

I think he's super young. So I think in general, I think he is struggling with a lot, like being so young, being in the public eye, obviously going into substance sense to try to mitigate the pressure of dealing with so many things when you're so young. So he's going through a ton of things. And then you're also vulnerable to somebody like Andrew Tate or somebody of that nature to pull. you into something. No, I hope he like cleans it up. I mean, I hope he's not really that person.

I mean, it's gross anyways, whether you're like trolling or not. But like, you know, hopefully he yeah, hopefully goes away from that. I think for whatever reason, it's better to not be on that side of things. I don't know. He needs to grow a lot and stay alive. That like, I guess, overdose. What, like, when they like paned away, kind of pan to him and he was just kind of like falling back. It almost like like to me like a K-hole. Like it was just like where you just like falling back in your kind of like almost like you're like dying and you're accepting it. It's like it was actually really scary. I almost quote to me to it because I was like,

what platform is allowing that to like just keep streaming? Like he was literally like. Kick, but. Oh, is it kick? Oh, I thought he was kicked off kick. No, he's back on. He was temporarily banned after he shot the alligator, but he's been back. Yeah.

Did she the mom making up to him and was like, are you the one who shot the alligator? Yeah. Did you? Oh my God. It's like, oh my God. It was like an older woman. These older women love him. Like they're always coming to him on live stream.

Well, like we said, I mean, he is like charming if he wasn't awful. like all those things you say because it's like when you watch just a clip you're like okay he's like but yeah that's why he would he he would benefit from a rebrand i don't know if he's like too far gone but also he probably needs help i don't know you remember early ticot the guy that was just like kind of like him just looking good always mind the camera on the old ladies like them oh my mom liked him what was that guy's name it was so niche like i never heard of him but my mom was like oh was it micky or something what was his name that's right ricky white rickie white Oh, something along those lines.

That's going to bother me. Isn't it around? No, I don't think so. My mom would always like, oh, all these women love, it was something white. But he would just play old fashion music and be all just like looking at camera, smiling, kind of like this guy. But all I'm saying is like it's the same, because you're talking about all these women liking him. It's kind of like the same style of a person and a loo. I think that guy was just like a sweet Southern boy.

That's very different. I think he was just being cute dancing to like Barry Manilow songs. It was so niche, but my mom was just like all these old women think they have a chance. chance with Ricky White or whatever his name was. And I remember she talked about him all that. I think you like Ricky White. I don't think that's his name, but I can't think what it was. Oh, that's going to bother me.

If you guys know, he used to dance. He used to like lip sync to like Barry Rental songs like wink at the game. But he like, he also didn't get a lot of views. Like he maybe had like $100,000 to $100,000. Like, so my mom knowing it was. At some point kind of crushed out or burned out. Maybe he became a little bit killer. Maybe that was his rebrand.

He's like, this is not working anymore. Anyways, it was scary. he needs help but he's also getting fashion he's like literally like the only person who gets to like walk a fashion runway and be like just absolutely diabolical yeah I really don't understand it it's weird too because like in the interview

was 60 minutes like he is he I thought he would be dumb or he is still kind of dumb like the way he talks about things like about medicine and like you know the, smashing his face with, um, a hammer and stuff. But he is kind of smart-ish too. So it's really weird.

Well, you have to be to run a company like he does and so many employees and so much money coming in. I think even to be dumb like that, to be like the face smashing of it all, I think is taking some sort of smart. Like, yes, I know what you mean. Like there are certain things like me, even when I play dumb, like there's certain things that I was actually just dumb by. Like sometimes like knowing, obviously like the face smashing with a hammer.

Like he knows it sounds crazy, right? Like everyone knows it sounds crazy. But like I guess smart because everyone's talking about us. Look at us talking about it. like not our sphere at all. And like, he is huge. And I see him everywhere now. I'm like, he is everywhere now. It is crazy. But the antics just keep getting nuts and nuts. I know. We would be his worst nightmare though because he says like the worst thing you could be is like fat basically. He's like the biggest advice. Because the interview asked him like,

what's the biggest thing in your opinion that people need to do? And he's like lean max. Like the worst, like you can't see any of the definition in your face if you're walking around with pudge and lard on the body. Oh my God. I lean max and now you can see my cheekbones. Wow. So he's like, you can never be attractive if you don't lean max. And I was like, I mean, it's all Harry Daniels. I know, poor Harry Daniels.

But Harry Daniels like, he ate, period. Yes. Well, yes. And also Harry Daniels is the one that set up clavicular and will vicky, which is the craziest plot twist. imaginable yeah all of it's a mess this is one that needs god as will be will say you know how they all turn to god by the grace of god god god god god god stream grace about the katy mary clippicular it is inside that whoa viki seems like the most reasonable person in that room well she seems right i think she was problematic but i think she has

changed she's giving me growth she's giving me change she was a little she says some problematic things or she still does i don't know how what the recency is of well she hangs out with Harry Daniels so a lot of people hang out with Harry Daniels hangs out with a lot of people that part is very true he was at Coachella singing everyone everybody

all of is a mess did you see that random to go back to Coachella but that killed me the one that with him and Emma Roberts when he's saying to Emma Roberts and she's like everyone's been mean to you this Coachella come here baby and she hugs were they? Were they?

She's like, everyone's been mean to you. I don't like it. Come here, baby. Wait, why are they being mean to him? I didn't know. There were probably a few people that just kept walking. Oh, like, you should ignore him. Yeah.

Emma Roberts is funny. She's another one who, like, gives me, like, she's probably a but we like her. Right? She seems mean, but also, like, we love that about her. Like, we expect her to just stumble our faces. That is too funny. Hmm. What a, what a week it's been.

Coachella. clavicular Colleen Alex Oh my god Cooper Just lots of seas It's just really

Week from hell But It's going to be the weekend From Heaven Because Oscar and me and Moses Will be appearing at the Coachella Mainstage In the front

We'll be at the VIP Against the White Wall As Tanna I was start to scrub There's a white wall And everyone's like caving I'm like what is happening In there

Moses will be Making sure he doesn't get pinned by Jayzie's bodyguards We'll be next to him I expect an apology. That is crazy. You're the original Coachella security influencer. You're the original little girl that Chaparone's bodyguard.

Yeah. Did not yell at. I know. That was an all my other person. The soccer player. I was like, oops later, after the hate train is like kind of subsided.

Girl, you should have said that when everyone was coming on her. Your wife responded to her response saying she was wrong. He's actually just kidding. I take it back. What? Poor thing. Wild.

All right, you guys. Well, this was fun. I missed it. It's been a while. It's been like five or six days. A lot has happened. A lot. I love when a lot has happened.

And like just a fun, messy, cute way. Mine is the overdose. That's kind of scary. But he's alive. So that's good. And the dragon of children. And the dragon of children. The dragon of children.

I mean, that's the worst, in my opinion. I don't know if that's your own, too. And writing a song. Yeah. Okay. I'll get started again. Sometimes we cancel the right people sometimes. Okay, well just, you know, growth and change if you can.

We love you guys and, um, Oscar, good luck today. Thanks. Music video superstar. I'm so happy for you. I'm real. I'm like, that's kind of everything. It's very everything. All right guys, love you.

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