Just Trish - Alex Warren Talks NEW ALBUM, Wedding with Kouvr, Hype House and More! | Just Trish Ep 113

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

Alex Warren joins Trish today to discuss his upcoming album, his wedding to longtime love Kouvr and the wedding crashers that attended, opens up about loss and friendships, and the formation of and then exit from The Hype House. All that and more on today's episode of Just Trish! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And I remember like walking down the aisle and I was like who who are those people? Really? Yeah and I think that was the one thing where it's like you know whether it's like the bouquet toss or the garter thing or any of this stuff it's like you definitely want to like share those memories with the people that you're closest with. I start filming them and they try to hit me with their car. It was the craziest sh-t. You as a person? Yes, I'm filming them and they literally veer at me and I jump out of the way. Skippity?

What is it? Do you know? No geats here. And all the gossip's filthy, rich, pretty, and pink. Hot topic queen, and that's what everybody thinks. She's just Trish. Yay! All right, guys. Welcome back to Just Trish. Today's guest, I am super excited.

I'm a huge fan. He is TikToker turned bonafide rock star, really, with over 20 million combined followers. We have Mr. Alex Ward. Hi. I need Trisha to introduce me to everything like that that's awesome you're like the first person i gave a proper introduction to most people like you have to introduce the guest i'm like i got it with alex yeah i was i'm very nervous to interview you because i actually like love you but it's just

we just shoot the shit like it's nothing you are very like humble and down to earth thank you which i feel like influences your age and probably just because they got so famous so rich quickly are like not as like down to earth but you're very chill you're like i just don't think i got something to be cocky about i got i don't know you have a lot to be cocky about you found love early you have an amazing voice you're started the hype house you started tiktok basically you and your crew thank you very much i appreciate it there's so much to get into because i'm so excited for your new music but um we are you? We were talking for a while before this. In 10 minutes, we squeezed the whole interview in. I was like, wait, talk about this.

We were speedballing. I'm good. Yeah. I just got married, which is really cool. Congrats. I know. Congrats to you as well. Thank you.

Yeah. I don't know. It's been really cool. Everything has gone really quickly. I got married and immediately jumped on a tour. Now I'm back. And then I go back on another tour soon. That's so exciting.

Your first tour, is that the first time you guys were apart? Yeah. It was our first time being apart longer than on a tour. Now I'm back, and then I go back on another tour soon. That's so exciting. Your first tour, is that the first time you guys were apart? Yeah, it was our first time being apart longer than like a week. Since you guys have lived together out here in California. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I first did my first tour, that was the first time spending more than a day apart ever since we started living together, which is most people are listening like,

what the fuck, that's stupid. But we just never found ourselves in a position where we were apart from each other. I love that. It wasn't like we were like, oh, we have to be together all the time. We just did a lot of stuff the last six, seven years of our lives together. Which is like crazy. You're 23.

So you're like your whole adult lives basically. Right. You spend every day together. Yeah. I mean, we moved in together when we were four months in at 18 years old, sleeping in a car together. And then, yeah, from there we were by the hip and we pursued a career together we pursued everything together it's almost like you know you went to college with your your girlfriend and

once you left college you moved in right away i love that i think that's so good because so we're the same way we've never been apart we've been apart like one day our wedding night we were set apart and people are like don't you get sick of each other i'm like but no no i'm like i get weird if he doesn't come with me places weird It feels weird when you're apart. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's, like, tour is, like, oh, my God, it's so strange because, like, I never lived by myself ever. Like, once I moved out of my house, I was in a car for maybe, like, two months before Covert started sleeping in a car with me. So, like, I've never, like, had my own place by myself. So doing these hotels and these tour buses and stuff without her just feels really strange.

Yeah. What did you do? How did you cope with it? Did you have, have like a pillow? Were you FaceTiming? So we do this thing where we get each other a, they're not squishmills. What are they?

They're like those little stuffed animals. I forget what they're called. Like a squishmill? Not a squishmill? It's called something. It's like a jellycat. Jellycat. Love those, yes.

Yes. So we get each other a jellycat every time I go on tour. So she's got like a buttload of them on the bed and I'll take whichever one she gave me and we like do a little trade off right before I leave. Oh my God. Do you put like a little voodoo in them so you can like smell each other?

She sprays her perfume on it. Okay. I love that. So you feel the connection. I sleep with it every day on tour. Oh my God. I know when she didn't come with you. My bandmates make fun of me.

Really? They take little pictures of you? Yeah. When I didn't see her come in, I was like, wait, where's Alex without Cobra and Cobra without Alex? It's weird. Like you guys are the duo.

I know. Yeah, she was sleeping when I left when i left we love cobra we were talking about before i literally got cobra merch i was like upset i was obsessed with you guys truly in 2020 and i was just like i remember i like dm'd you i wanted to be in your video so bad i thought your vlogs that you used to do were like so oh my god why didn't you say anything i would have came here and filmed with you i feel like i definitely did because that's when i first met moses in 2020. I was like, I want to be in his video so bad. Oh, my God. But then it is weird because I always talk about old people being in young people's vlogs.

What were you, 18 back then? Oh, wait, 2020. I was 20. So 20. I was 20. It's still kind of weird. I think I was like 32 at the time. That's not old, Trisha.

I'm not trying to be the old person in a young person's vlog. This is amazing, by the way. Yes, just Trisha Walker. Just Trisha Walker. It's tasty, good for your vocals. Amazing. For you. Yeah, you pick it up at your local 7-Eleven.

Yeah, oh my God. We start selling it. Right? That'd be rad. I love branded anything. Yeah, I've loved you for so long. You're so sweet. Thank you very much.

It's cool to see. Well, let's go since we're talking about your backstory. And I love how open you are. Thank you. You're like, I'm an open book, which you should write a book, really. Thank you. I don't know if anyone wants to read that yet, but I don't know. I think it's really cool.

The reason I'm so open is I think just the things that I've gone through and stuff like that, I think a lot of people make those type of things up. And the fact that I've gone through them and I've been able to make it out on the other side pretty unscathed and positive. I think it's really cool. And I think it's not inspiring because I think that that gives a lot of weight to it. But it's more of like, oh, hey, it is possible to get out of that situation you're in. I think that's the definition of inspiring, right? Getting out of a situation. It just feels weird coming out of my mouth saying my story is inspiring.

But that's why you're humble because it is. It's like the most inspirational story. I want to throw up a little when I say it. That's all. But I think people would agree and I feel like also that you found like I think when people come from like broken homes, I think so many influencers have. I have. It's like you never can find those relationships. Like I never found a stable relationship.

So like you showing that. And also I think your couple goals because you just like put cover up on such a pedestal. Like there's no qualms you're in a relationship. Like he's in a relationship and he's happy. And I like most guys don't show that. It's weird. When we fight, we fight like probably once a month. And it's just because we haven't fought.

So it's like the weirdest thing where we just get so upset over one thing. And it's like maybe like, you know, a blanket that wasn't put away. It's crazy. That's the height of your fights. I just think we have a really good understanding of each other. Like we kind of grew up together in that point. Like we both went like I lost my mom when we were together. There's so many things that like happened where, know we've been through a lot so every kind

of issue that we ever have is very minute like it's very small and easy to easy to navigate and like if anything I'd probably make the most mistakes out of the relationship really I think it's yeah I mean it's I get so caught up in like the music and like the work and I'm gone four months out of the year now. So it's like, if not more, like I've been gone four months out of the year after these next two tours and then they want to send me to Asia right when I get back. So it's like, she's like, I didn't sign up for this. Yeah, you've gone the past couple years, right? You signed to Atlantic. This just started this year.

All the touring and stuff. Oh, no. Yeah, so she's definitely like, oh, my God. It's been nice, though, because she comes with me a lot of the time now. Okay, that's good. Yeah, we just have four dogs and a lot of cats and stuff. Oh, yeah. No one to watch them. Right. So it does get a little hard to navigate. And there's a lot of break-ins

in L.A. now. It's crazy. We have to hire security. It's a whole thing. I lived in your area in the quarantine. We hired a 24-hour security guard. I had to do that, too. It's awful. It's crazy. And it's, like, wild, too, because it's, like, what are people doing? Yeah, it's nice.

It's, you know, that's why I told you you should come out this way, because then you have, like, double gates. I love it here. Yeah. It was like Fort Knox trying to get in here. That's why we chose it. That was amazing. Yeah. So it's that security.

Oh, my gosh. I was like, nice, Trisha. Good shit. Those mukbangs are paid. Oh, my gosh. The mukbangs did it all. No, actually, that is your license, what you said, is mukbangs paid oh my god the mukbangs did it all no actually that is your license what you said is mukbang

I don't know if we should say it no no no go for it I don't give a follow me come to my house I didn't know you had a massive truck

Moses was like he has this really massive truck what is it? it's a Ram TRX it's like a they put a oh I wish I could explain this better

do you know what a Hellcat is? no it's like a supercharged big V8 engine and they put it in a pickup truck. So it's just this fast, massive pickup truck. Is it loud? A little bit, I think, if I get on it. Some people can make it loud.

Those loud trucks the next year are just like, oh my gosh, just a lot. Yeah, small penis. I'm compensating a lot, actually. But, yeah, I don't know. It's been fun i i really like that i always wanted a truck as a kid so even in la and hollywood you'll just see me in this massive black car like it's just like i love that because you grew up in carlsbad yeah which is like understated yeah it's kind of like casual like laid back yeah i love that area i grew up in my

dad had a house in escondido no that's where our wedding was wait really yeah uh ethereal gardens so it's like right right off the cusp of temecula and escondido yes he lives in temecula now so i know that very well so i'm very 909 that's very me i love that yeah oh my god but your wedding yeah that was we know it was a few hours away based on tiktoks people being like i drove five hours for that wedding i was like where did they have they have it? Not five hours. A few hours. Yeah. It's two hours away. How was it?

But the wedding was not problematic during the wedding. No. And what's crazy. And I mean, maybe it was, but our, not team, but like her bridesmaids were fantastic. Yeah. Like they didn't, they handled everything. Like if something happened, they handled it right away. Like I was, I was, I don't know how your wedding was, it right away like I was I was I don't know how your wedding was but for me I was shitting myself during rehearsal it did not go to

plan at all wait what happened rehearsal just was like there was just a bunch of everyone had opinions about something because this was our first time obviously running through it and like I kind of like covert take the stick and like be like you know run with this and anything she wanted I was so hell yeah let's run it. But then her family and then my family, they all had like opinions or why don't I do this? Why don't I do that? And I think that was like something where like Covert and I just started looking at each other like.

Yeah. We're so. We should have eloped. I had to run the rehearsal like five times and it literally never went right. And so when it came down to the actual thing the next day, I was nervous as hell. And I had just written my vows six hours before, like it was a game time decision to change them and

make them perfect. And, um, all I remember is walking down the aisle and I go, this is perfect. Like it, it somehow meticulously imperfect, like came out so perfect. I couldn't, it could not have been more perfect in my eyes. Wow. What do you think it was that it all came together last minute? I think everyone just realized the scope of it. I think when it came down to it and everything, they were just like, okay. It's really easy to not take it seriously in a rehearsal because you don't have all the decorations out. It's very just plain. You have to make up a lot of things.

Once it actually happened, you kind of knew where to go and everything, which was really nice was really nice yeah ours was the opposite we had a good rehearsal and then the day of everything went wrong the stairs were at the wrong side so he had to like lift up my dress and i had to hop off the stage it was it was a disaster parkour during your wedding ceremonies something i never expected it very was but your vows did go viral right i think that might be the thing you're most known for because even my glam today I was telling them about you. And they're not on TikTok, so they're not so familiar. Sure. But they knew the vows.

Because I was showing them, like, oh, he went viral with his wife. I was like, yes, exactly. So you wrote them yourself. Yeah. So that was like my sixth series of vows that I had written. The first five, I was like, this isn't good enough. Whatever. I just thought for some reason, since I'm a songwriter, I'd be able

to bust it out in 30 seconds. And so I was like, you know, don't worry, guys, I'll be done in 30 minutes. It's 1130 p.m. I start. And I remember blinking and it was three, four in the morning. And I'm looking at these vows and I'm like, these are so bad, so terrible. So I was about to give up. And one of my buddies, Ryan, came into the room and he's like, oh, you're done. And I'm like, nope, no, I'm going to give up and probably try again in the morning.

And he's like, just talk to me and tell me about it. How'd you guys meet? And so I was just started like, I just started spitballing. He's like, write that down. And so I started writing down. He kind of like just, I think I was overthinking it too much. And it took me maybe 15 minutes talking to Ryan about it. And I was just telling him like all the things he's like, write it down. And it was really nice to like, kind of like take a step back. And that's how those vows came. Just from your heart. Yeah.

This is the easiest. Yeah. I wasn't trying. I wasn't trying when I was talking about it. Right. That's where the perfection, in my opinion, came out. Oh, my God. I know.

I feel like you set the bar so high for vows. I was like crying. I cry now when you talk about it. I was just like, it's so amazing. Like, they're so beautiful. And again, for a guy and as young as you and as like famous as you and all the stuff like that to like, like be so open with their emotions. It's like really refreshing to see.

And I think that's why people like your music. Would you do a big wedding again? Like if you had to redo it or gave advice to people? Probably not. I don't, I don't. And it's so funny because that's the advice I got a lot from other people is like, I wouldn't do a big wedding again. I think it was just like, there was a lot of like plus fives.

Like there was so many people who I didn't know. Did you allow it? Like did they ask and you're like, okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like we kind of just wanted – like Covert and I have been like a – our house has been like a safe haven for so many people. Where like whether it's like when they left the Hype House or when, you know, people had left the content houses and they had nowhere to go. We typically kept our doors open. So we kind of like kept that same mentality for our wedding.

We're like, we don't want anyone to feel left out like in that sense. There are very few things that you can be certain of in life, but you can always be sure the sun will rise each morning. You can bet your bottom dollar that you'll always need air to breathe and water to drink. And of course, you can rest assured that with Public Mobile's 5G subscription phone plans, you'll pay the same thing every month. With all of the mysteries that life has to offer, a few certainties can really go a long way. Subscribe today for the peace of mind you've been searching for.

Public Mobile. Different is calling. So we invited 350 people. 250 showed up. So like there's 100 people who like couldn't make it or had prior stuff commitments. And I remember like walking down the aisle and I was like, who are those people? Really? Yeah. And I think that was the one thing where it's like, you know, whether it's like the bouquet

tops or the garter thing or any of this stuff, it's you definitely want to like share those memories with the the people that you're closest with and um that's the one thing i wish someone gave me advice about is like when it came down to like the bouquet and all these um the garter and like all these different like things where it's like you get to look back on that you kind of hope that that'd be your closest friends that you're able to like look at you know yeah so looking back you're like in photos you see like yourself down the islands like people you don't recognize yeah yeah but like that's again that's not deal breaker like i i genuinely i could not have thought that wedding was more perfect in my opinion keep the list shorter maybe yeah like that's if i had to do

something different yeah for sure no i feel like it's important though because like you said giving advice i always tell people if i wasn't a content creator i would have done we did a we did two a big wedding here and another one in Maui. And the one in Maui was so cheap. It was like literally like 30,000 all inclusive, right? And that was like 10 guests, whatever. Here was like half a million and we had like bright lights and like, you know, all this stuff like that.

And I was like, honestly, like- Did you get any stuff like comped for your wedding? No, did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't get anything comped. Our wedding would have costed, without the discounts and everything, probably $300,000. Wait, so that's amazing.

Do you have someone reach out on your behalf? People just all come to you. I've got lucky with Cover having a really good management team that handles that. My management team is very music-oriented, and they're like, why the fuck? What do you have to do with a wedding? But she handled everything. My suits were, I just had to pay for materials for me and my groomsmen's suits. No way.

And like her name's Camilla who made them and she's so cool. She's a designer down in LA and like just everyone we worked with, they were all so cool and they were all so happy with the wedding. And I've been really blessed with, with the position I'm in and obviously Covert and I, when we first met now is like, how on earth are we able to like do all this? And it's really cool.

Yeah. I think your guys is again, your humility like is such a big part of why people want to work with you you know what i mean maybe because you're you guys come across so like genuine and so nice so i think people just like want to work with you and be around good vibes and you guys handled it all so well would you invite influencers again yeah here's the thing most of them were our friends like even even like everyone was our friends really like that's the thing like there was no one at the wedding where i go oh i hate them there's not one person at that wedding where I was like never again whatever like that's just like we we are kind of just like that where

we just really like everyone yeah yeah you're just like nice people and stuff like that so not even that like I'm not trying to be like overly nice I'm not trying to be like oh like you know I'm humble and all these things. Genuinely speaking, I'm just a people pleaser. I get to be straight up. That's just how I am. I think my presence is a conflict in your life. So please like me more. That's such a wild take. It's so interesting because- I'm the most insecure. Wait, really? Yeah. You come across so confident. You are like David Dobrik, but safe and nice. Oh, thank you.

Because he's very charismatic. No, I've always said this. I think David Dobrik is like, that's why I liked your vlogs back in the day. Thank you. You gave me David vibes, which I'm sure you got compared to a lot. For sure. I definitely was influenced heavily from his vlogs. Okay.

So you like, and he is. He's like literally the most charming, like nice, like when you're around him, you just like want to be around him. You knew him, right? I feel like, yeah. I mean, I view it like this. Like if in high school, I was a heavily bullied kid, but I always wanted to be the popular kid.

And so like whenever the popular kid would wear Vans, I'd be like, you know what? I'm going to wear Vans. Or like the popular kid wore skinny jeans. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to wear skinny jeans because you want to be like the popular kid. I wanted to be like David Dobrik. Interesting. Yes, you were influenced by him.

And also you have to think I was homeless and I had nothing to my name. And I had a group of friends who I thought were very unique. And so did David. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to try and do this. And I think just got lost in the tracks of it. You had such good friends. Who was the one?

He was. He had like hat glasses. You know, he was like really like loud. And I feel like I talked to him at one point. What's his name? Is he bigger? Yes. Papper.

Loved him. I loved him. I feel like I talked to him at one point. They were his name? Is he bigger? Yes. Papper. Loved him. I loved him so much. I feel like I talked to him at one point. They were all at my wedding. Half of them were in my wedding party. Like they were all, they're all very close. I think they just all, when I started doing social media, they felt obligated to do it because they were in my vlogs, but I don't think they wanted to do it.

So once it all kind of like, like they're all back in college. They're all like back in Carlsbad, like pursuing like careers that they wanted to do. And it was kind of like that was their college experience is being in the Hype House and all this stuff. Okay. So you're in Hype House at 18 years old. Yeah, we created at 19. Oh my gosh. Okay, wait.

So. I just turned 19 when we created it. And you're here in LA. Are you, you're living in your car? Are you living with friends at this point? No. So by the time Hype House started, I had just, my social media career, like a year before I had started doing well independently, I had a million followers by then. So yeah, I was doing, we had just got an apartment together when Hype House started.

Okay. And then like me, Cover, and all my friends, we were filming our vlogs and that's where I introduced like Lil Huddy to Thomas and everything. And then Thomas was like, oh, hey, just got a house, let's all move in together. And I was like, oh, cool. Wait, how did you know Lil Huddy? From my vlogs. So you were the cool kid. You were all move in together. And I was like, oh, cool. Wait, how did you know Little Huddy? From my vlogs. Oh, my. So you were the cool kid.

You were, you're literally like the new David where people want to be. I wanted to fit in. That's the thing. I wanted to fit in. I still did. Like, you had to think these were like good looking f***ing boys. Yeah. Like, I'm 18, 19 years old.

I do not look like that. Yeah. No, you did. I'm a pasty little boy who has a complex to want to be famous. I always thought you were the best looking because you reminded me of Gerard Way, who I'm obsessed with. Oh, I get that a lot. Every girl loves Gerard Way, and that's your vibe. I love Gerard Way, so thank you.

And your face, everything looked like him. It's so funny you say that, that you felt insecure next to them. Well, I think they're good looking, I guess. I would definitely think you're the star of the group, for sure. Thank you very much. That is an unpopular opinion, but I appreciate it. No, I don't think so. opinion thank you very much because your fan base is probably mostly girls yeah 60 that is that's always bizarre to me too because just like those vlogs with all the boys and stuff you got to think like i i a the relationship with cover like girls are definitely more invested in that where guys

are kind of like okay dude uh and my music is like where it's kind of 60-40, more 50-50. But it used to be a lot predominantly more women. And I think it's just because women are more in touch with their feelings, I think. Men are very much like, oh, feelings, ugh. And like my songs are very feeling oriented. They're so feelings. They're so. Did you grow up?

Your dad passed away when you were nine. Yeah. But you were close with your dad before that. Yeah. My dad made it. You have to think. My dad knew he was you were nine. Yeah. But you were close with your dad before that. Yeah. My dad made it. You have to think. My dad knew he was dying for the longest time. He was fighting cancer by the time I was born.

And he had beaten it a few times. So for him, it was just always like, I can't imagine when I have kids and if I ever had that. Or I kind of put myself in his shoes. Not knowing how long you have left is crazy. And especially when you have four kids, it's like his entire life was kind of made around kids and wanting to be a father. So yeah. So he, knowing that like he was on like, you know, he beat cancer, could possibly come

back. You think he was more present? You think he made him more present as a dad? Yeah. I mean, you have to think like for me, if I ever had a scare where I almost died or I was told I was going to die and I beat that illness, I think I'd have an appreciation for life and the things around me at that time. But that makes me sad I was nine. I don't really remember a lot. Like, it's really crazy.

Like, he left us a bunch of videos and stuff. And so it's cool to watch him back and like kind of get to know my dad because as I get older, I realize I didn't know him very well. Yeah, because he was just like so young. Yeah, I get so sad because we're older parents. I just think we always say this. If you don't have a dad, it affects you so much. But it wasn't his choice or your choice to not have a dad. And I feel like it makes me so sad to think about that.

I sometimes wish it was one of those situations where it was like, you know, he walked out or something like that. Because I think then you're able to have some type of closure. I think there's something about like how life gets ripped away from you. It's kind of like the terrifying part. Your story always, it always makes me sad. I like most of them I'll be scrolling and I'm like every time I see something about your like story, I'm just like, this is so sad. And you deal with it so like great. Like you seem like you don't.

Don't get me wrong. I have nights where I'm like holy i cry my ass off like but that's something where like i think with these things happening to me at a young age i've realized that outlooks on things i guess to me with losing my dad and losing my mom i would not be where i am today i would not have a music career i would not have met cover if my mom didn't die so like those are yeah like so like those are things where I would have never met half these people. Like, I would not have a wife if I didn't lose my parents. So like, that's something to me where, holy, the person I am today is the byproduct of the things that have happened to me that are bad. And like, you know, I, I, that's the way I look

at things. And you know, I'm very thankful for the life I have. And I genuinely think that everything happens for a reason. I love that saying, everything happens for a reason, because that's what I always say, too. But I've never lost someone close to me. So I felt like if it was, like, you know, when someone loses a child or a parent, it's just like, okay, but what's the reason? But the way you said it was beautiful, it, like, led to something. So your mom passed away before you met Cobra. She passed away before you met cover she passed away after the thing is that my

mom passing away is what like the process of that and like her becoming an alcoholic which inevitably killed her is what made cover and i like meet so like cover wasn't i wasn't allowed to go see cover because it was in hawaii my mom was on a thing. And so she had called my dad's best friend and my dad's best friend is the person who convinced her to let me go. And my dad's best friend was in my life because my dad was dying from cancer. Oh my gosh. So it's like a whole thing. Wild. Yeah. What do you think your dad would have been like, if you were like, I want to go see this girl in Hawaii, you think he would have been? No. No. He would have also been like. No. The one thing I've learned about my dad is my dad was so open and very caring, but it was something where No, he would have also been like. No. The one thing I've learned about my dad is my dad was so open and very caring.

But it was something where like he definitely like, you have to think he just didn't. Like, I don't actually, I don't know. I think because like you have to think social media wasn't a thing back then. So I bet he had like skeptic. Yeah. I don't know. Like, what are you going to do with your life? Like, what are you going to do with stuff like that?

Would you let your son go? I know this question. Go to Hawaii to follow a girl, live in his car? Oh, gosh. I don't know. Really? There's a lot of things that I've done that I don't think I'd let my kid do. But at the end of the day, I don't know.

That's what I'm terrified of. I'm terrified to be a father because I want to do it right. But I think because the lack of thereof, the fact that I didn't have any of that, is why I might be a good father. Because I know what it's like not to have one. They say you either repeat the patterns or you break the patterns. Right. Right.

So I think you will. It sounds like you've broken every other pattern, right? Hopefully. Yeah. We're on a roll. No, it's amazing. Thank you. Like with your mom being, you say alcoholic.

You would call her an alcoholic. So she drank herself to death. She died from liver failure. Yeah. I didn't know that was even a thing you could do. So it was really just that. Just drank too much too much yeah so after my dad passed away she became a abusive alcoholic that was just kind of like her her shindig her thing and like she suffered from bipolar disorder and a lot of different things so it kind of didn't help um but yeah it hit a point

where like i i realized it was a problem and i was the only one to call her out on it and i think that to her was like okay it's a Alex's fault that I'm a drunk now. So then it turned into this whole thing. I got kicked out when I was 18 and homeless and here we are. What did she say when you got kicked out? She's like, you just have to leave? I turned 18 right when I turned 18. Oh, so then you decided you're like, I'm leaving.

No, no, no. I turned 18 and she came into my room and said, it's time to go. Oh my gosh. Yeah. She kicked me out and I couldn't bring anything but uh what I owned myself and I owned a phone and a camera and a laptop so I'm left and made vlogs oh my god and then that's when you went to Hawaii I went to Hawaii right before that okay so you already knew Cobra and then that guy got it oh my god sorry I always forget like how the timeline of

things goes this happened seven years ago there's so crazy, right? But also that's so recent. Like seven years is still so recent, which is like wild. It's like crazy to think about. So all of that, so like almost like social media kind of like saved you too because it like gave you a career and.

Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, I wouldn't have my music career without it or anything. Were you doing music at a young age? Did you always like music? When I was like 11, I would post singing videos and stuff on YouTube

on like a separate account. And also like if you go to my TikTok all the way at the bottom, I would post singing videos and stuff on YouTube on like a separate account. And also like if you go to my TikTok all the way at the bottom, it's all singing. Like I wanted to do it for so long, but like I just it never worked. And then when I became homeless, I was like, I need to find something that works. Yeah, that makes money. And somehow the vlogs worked. That is so wild. So when you're doing the vlog, so you.

OK, so then Hype House comes. Little Huddy, you're introduced to Thomas, who is the star of Hype House. You still talk to Thomas? No. Is he like cool? I don't know. I know nothing about him. I don't know. It's, it's a little difficult. I think with Thomas, like he was one of my best friends and I think with the money and a lot of things that kind of just like, that's where things changed. Um, we sadly didn't end on a good term and, um, but yeah, he's doing well in life. I believe. I haven't talked to him. No one's really talked to him. He had his priorities on one thing, and I think he...

He was a little older than you guys, right? Yeah, I think he's like 27 now. Oh, now. Now, he was 24 when I was 21, so... Oh my gosh. What am I now? 23. So he's 27, 28.

Wow. I guess doing business at such a young age, does anyone really know what they're doing at that age? Well, We didn't. When Hype House happened, you have to think. So we, we, that day we did a photo shoot, right? And like, we did all those tech talks where it's like, let me get that. And then it was like the, um, it was just like all of us in our room and we all were wearing jeans and white shirt. That day Thomas had came into our room and was like, Hey, we need to come up with a name for this. And I was a very creative mother. As you still are.

Right. And so me and Daisy and Cover at the time, I was like Hype House. And they're like, oh, yeah, let's run it. They loved it. And we ran with it. And they're like, nope. No, we hate it. And Thomas and Lil Hottie were like, what about House of of the Coliseum or something crazy, like some

Greek thing? They're like, that's badass. And I'm like, guys, trust me, Hype House is a way better name than whatever the fuck that is. And so we created the Hype House, posted those photos. And the next morning, we woke up to millions of followers and our lives changing. And immediately, New York Times wanted us. It was like a whole thing where I was like, what the fuck just happened?

Was it actually a day? Yeah, one day. So after the photo shoot with the jeans and the white T-shirt. So people knew how to New York Times become aware of it or just became viral on TikTok. Just viral. Everyone was talking about it. It was just a bunch of white kids dancing. It was interesting to see.

I'm like, it's a group of people. And how did you guys all meet each other? Half of them were my hometown friends. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's how they met for me. I'm like, hmm, it's a group of people. And how did you guys all meet each other? Half of them were my hometown friends. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's how they met, from me. Wow. Oh, my God.

But you had to have the confidence even back then to be like, no, it's Hype House. Because I always think all my ideas suck. I'm like, you're right, it sucks. But the fact that you pushed for it, you had to have like. It helped to have Culver and Daisy on my side. Right, that's true. But then it came down to a group vote. And Huddy and Thomas were the only ones who wanted the House of Coliseum or whatever it was.

Really? Oh, my. That would have been a horrible name. I don't think it would have been as big. So when you got the Netflix show, are you like executive producer? Are you like, um, so that's where a lot of the falling out came because when I, I wanted to be a musician. So like that was kind of the thing I'm like, Hey, I don't want it. Cause Jake Paul came over to the house and he was like, Hey, by the way, you guys are going to get sued a ton, all these things. I was like, I don't fucking want that. I just want to make music and fuck off. That's all I want to do in vlogs at the time.

So I was like, hey, I'm going to step back and do whatever. I want to be a part of this. Don't kick me out, whatever. But I just want to make music and the things I don't want. I don't care about the business side of things. So then they started running with – Hud It was a co-creator. What? And you didn't get co-creator credit? I didn't care. Like that was the thing. Like, yeah, but then they started making a ton of money and I was just like, Oh, whatever.

I'll do the vlogs and I'll do the music. And I, I don't know. I was blessed to even be in that room. Oh my wait, but that's so like, especially because you came up with the name, you didn't get any of the trademark or the IP or anything. No. Oh, my. What about the merch? All the merch that was, like, at Walmart or something like that? I don't remember what happened.

I remember we got, like, I think the Hype House got paid half a million for that. And I don't think I ever saw the money. Oh, my gosh. Wait, what? Maybe I did. Actually, I might have. Maybe a little bit. A little bit, yeah. But not half a million. Mm-mm. Yeah.. Oh my gosh. Wait, what? Maybe I did. Actually, I might have. Maybe a little bit. A little bit, yeah.

But not half a million. Mm-mm. Yeah. Oh my gosh. So Netflix show is like new Hype House people. It was like half of the original and half of the new people came in. Like Nikita wasn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or was she in the original? I'm not sure. I don't think she was ever part of the Hype House. Okay. Just came for the Netflix show. Yeah. How did you guys decide that? Like you got to be casted for it?

We didn't. I don't think we did. Oh. To be honest, to be fully frank with you, by that time I was kind of so like oh like you know I'm not I'm not one of the lead people I'm just gonna do my own thing that's why I but here's the thing I don't I did I made my money I'm very blessed to be in the position I am I've I've been able to it truly at the end of the day I think coming out of all of it I'm a winner in that retrospect I I found love.

I have a family. I have friends that truly care about me. And, you know, I've been blessed that I have a very profitable business. And, like, that's the thing where it's like, and I love making music. And, like, that's all I care about. And you've accomplished it. So now you have, like, a record deal. So, like, I don't think it's, like, for so many times and so many people are like, oh, my God, aren't you pissed?

Why don't you do this? Why don't you do that? And I'm like, I don't think it matters. I came out of this unscathed. I'm fine. Right, yeah. You succeeded. It's not like you got like pushed aside or something. Yeah, it's like why focus on the small things that are going to make my life so much more complicated? So mature

of you. Again, for 23 to like think about that, it's like wildly insane. Because in general, I just always felt like you guys were like more mature. Maybe because you guys were in a relationship but it always seemed like you guys never fit in. No, everyone calls us mom and dad. Like that's people older than us call us mom and dad. That's literally the vibes you give.

Yeah. I think it's just, again, it's the fact that we, so many people took us in. Like when I was sleeping in a car, sometimes like, you know, our friends would be like, hey, like we'll sneak you into the house. Because my mom did something where she convinced all these parents that I was a bad kid I've never done drugs I've never drank or I drank but I've never like drank and drank and if you know what I'm talking about um but my mom somehow convinced them that I was bad news and so like I wasn't allowed in the houses of these people's houses so they'd sneak me and cover in a night oh my what do you why do you think that was why do you think

she was like just didn't want you to leave? I think my mom wanted to prove that I needed her. Like that was the thing in which when you look at it and it's kind of sad as my mom genuinely just wanted someone to need her maybe. And I think a lot of things after losing my mom, I think I wish I had done differently, which I think is so normal. Whenever you lose someone, you always wonder what you could do differently. But I think a lot of it came out of my mom not feeling like she was the best mom, you know? And that was like hard. And what's really hard is when she passed away, the last thing she had said to me was, like for the first time ever, she had said, I have a drinking problem and I'm going to AA. And so when she finally started to try to get better, she died. Oh gosh. Yeah. It's like, she died. Oh, gosh.

Yeah, it's like the too late. Oh, no. Yeah. Are you the oldest of your siblings? Middle. Oh, wow. Yeah, sorry. This Trish water is just divine.

It's insane. I don't know what you put in it. Calculate levels high. Yeah, right? Yeah, the electrolytes. No. You're a middle child. Yeah, so I have an older sister who's very much like you. Really?

Oh, my gosh. She's a blonde who loves pink. If it was up to her, her dream car is a pink bug. Like one of those bugs. Love those. They don't even make them anymore. I love the beetle bug. Her office is all pink, very much like this.

Oh my gosh, she's become. I know. She lives in Nashville. Okay. Yeah, so she's married and she's 27? She's 1994, or 1996. How old would she be? She's four years older than me. 27, I think, yeah. She's 1994 or 1996. How old would she be? She's four years older than me.

27, I think. Yeah. 28 this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. I know. So she's the oldest. And then I have an older brother who's a Marine.

Okay. He's a year and something older than me. So he's 24. And I have a younger sister who lives in Seattle. And what did they all do during this process? Are they living in Carlsbad when your mom's do during this process? Are they living in Carlsbad when your mom's going through her addiction? Are they living in the house?

Everyone kind of slowly trickled away. So like my older sister went to college and never came back. My older brother went to the Marines and then stayed at the house. And then I got kicked out. And then once I got kicked out, my brother started getting the treatment I was getting. So then he left.

And then by that time, my little sister was was getting in so then my uncle moved her out and then my mom inevitably was alone oh so then she was when she passed away she was by herself there was no she died alone yeah oh gosh how awful terrible yeah and there's like you said there's kind of nothing you can do sometimes you can't help people um that can't help themselves Jerry Graceff has a very similar story. He's talked about it in music videos and stuff with his mom. Same thing. And it's just so hard to love someone who can't fully see it.

Well, I say this all the time. My mom was the best woman in the world when she wasn't drinking. The problem is she was always drunk. Yeah. And that's the saddest thing. It's like, you know, it's just, it'll eat you up and kill you. Do you think that you gravitated towards finding Love Young to fill a void, or do you think it just happened? Damn. Were you looking for it?

I was always looking for it. That was the thing. I couldn't be alone, but I always got cheated on. So that was the, it came to a point where I was like, am I doing something wrong? Why is this happening to me so many times? Then I met Kover, and like, we were, it was a rocky at the beginning, because we were long distance,

and I think she just didn't realize, like, that we were together or something, and she had a boyfriend at the time in Hawaii. Right? Crazy. There's a whole lore to it, it's crazy. But so she had a boyfriend at the time, and they were like on and off,

and then she started talking to me, and then like, it just became this weird situation, There's a whole lore to it. It's crazy. Oh, I didn't know that. So she had a boyfriend at the time. And they were on and off. And then she started talking to me. And then it just became this weird situation. And then I think once she realized, I was like, oh, hey, this is weird, bro. And I broke up with her. She's like, oh, fuck. I'm doing this or whatever. And then she moved out here.

And she's like, hey, I want you. It was this very cool moment where she was like, I want you. I choose you. I like kind of moment where she she was like i want you i choose you i want to be with you and yeah it was really beautiful and you're this is when you're living in your car and she's like i'm just gonna live there with you how long were you guys like sleeping in the car before you found four months four months well it was four months total so i was there for two months and then she had lived with me in a car for two months what does that even look like like where are you showering we were so here's the thing i was so lucky and so blessed that i had friends that would let me shower in there like that's the thing like calvin patrick and papper like those are the people who would let us shower in their house and

all this because their parents worked during the day so we'd go over to their house shower and then i'd film my vlogs with them and you know when that got done i paid for the rent so like in hype house in the apartment before all the way till last year, I paid for all my friends' rent. Wow. For three or four years straight to pay them back for letting, like that's the thing.

If I, we couldn't afford internet. We had no money. So like Calvin, one of my buddies would give me five bucks and I'd get, I would do what I can with those $5 and pay for a cover

and I had to get in and out. Oh my gosh. Because it was so cheap. Yeah, in and out. Not anymore. No, but $5, you could get a double, double French fries, a water cup, and it was $4.96. That's wild.

Yeah. I know. The inflation really went up with the hamburgers at In-N-Out. Crazy, right? But- Honestly, it's hamburger gate. We need to figure this out. McDonald's isn't cheap anymore either.

$10 for a burger. Five Guys is $7. It's crazy. Yeah. It is. Oh my God. I mean, hopefully it's going to the employees because i know their salaries went up but i have a feeling it's not all going to them i feel like

they should probably be getting more than even 20 an hour i feel like as well um i mean that is actually amazing so how do you even garner a million followers before hype house like how did you get the following what were you doing at the time tiktok no one was posting comedy videos it was all like boy like you know what i'm saying so like that was good thank you been practicing um so yeah so that was the thing is like you know I was one of the first people to post like vlogs onto TikTok and so I would get my bits you know how like David and I very similarly would make bits um I would post the bits to TikTok in vertical point and I'd be like oh hey go watch the full video on YouTube.

And so that's how it randomly, like my TikTok started blowing up. And then I'd post videos with cover and I'd be like, you know, see the full version of this on YouTube. And, um, I would put her in my vlogs and stuff. And you know, the covert video cover videos, like her and I blew up the vlogs and then people start falling in love with the people in the vlogs. And in the span of six months, I gained a million followers. Six months? So it took two months to start making money off the YouTube videos from the TikTok stuff. And I was able to get an apartment

and then I started paying my friends rent after that. That's insanely fast. Like two months to make money on YouTube, like it does not happen. Well, you have to think then from there, we gained, I gained, once Hype House started, I think like seven, 10 million followers that year. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. What was the magic of it? How would you – like what – do you think it's timing? Do you think it's the people? Like what was the magic of Hype House? 100% luck, 100% Charli D'Amelio, and 100% – yeah, like you have to think. There's nothing we could have done. Like you could not have replicated that.

Yeah. That was luck. It was because COVID. Everyone was trapped in their house. I hate to be that guy. None of us were special. I mean, Charlie was the only talented one. I think there was some.

Right. No, I think you are. But you guys were. Each person did. The ones you remember. Little Eddie. Yeah. Yeah.

But that's the thing. I think a lot of us got lucky. Right. I think there's. Right. Maybe some that would not have like right mainstream talent it was all the right perfect time charlie was blowing up you know huddy was blowing up and all these things like everyone contributed a lot to it yeah and you know i again i i will always

say this i was lucky to be in the room like that was the thing like that's i was able to ride the wave and you know be able to make my music it like, it is like lightning in a bottle, right? Like, it's like, how does that happen? I remember watching it in 2020 and seeing it. And it's like, wow, this is like this whole new like world of social media. It really was like a new wave, which is really cool. What do you think of TikTok now versus then? Oh, gosh, I don't know.

There's so much like slang. I feel old. Even though you're 23? Like, guillots and skibbity and all these brain rot things i have no idea what it means but i have a roommate i have a roommate that's like 27 28 and he'll come in and he'll be like skibbity toilet riz and i'm like bro you're like 30 what are you saying that would be me if i knew what it was i'm gonna say it now but he knows he knows all of it like he knows what all of it means so i'm always like getting educated what is it do you What is it? Do you know? I couldn't fucking tell you.

In a toilet. Is it a head in a toilet? No little kids watch it. Skippity? Skippity toilet, yeah. Look at Moses just fucking schooling us. 45 knowing Skippity. Hell yes, bro.

Hell yes. That's so funny. I've never heard of that. Yeah, I didn't know that one. Or what's, you know, giat, or that's just one. That's a butt, right? That's like a plump, swish butt. Giat is a plump-shrewish butt.

I love it. My publicist is like, what the fuck? No ghiats here. Wait, so okay, that's so interesting that you don't keep up with it. So you don't keep up with the trends of TikTok? You have to think like all I'm doing is promoting my music now. I'll post with my wife a lot. My wife is very funny.

I love her. She is such a mood is the best way to explain it. She just gets in these zoomies and I have so much fun because then I film with her. No, most of my life consists of making music and then promoting it. And you do an amazing job promoting it. Thank you. I was telling your papa, I was like, literally, every, I mean, my husband knows them. Every single TikTok is just your song.

Like, I think you've done like 50 for, what's your, Carry Home. Yeah, I did a lot. I mean, it probably has over 100 maybe. I don't know. There was so many. Yeah. And you just, you hear the song over and over. And I didn't even know, I don't even know if he knows you.

It sounds like Ed Sheeran or something like that. Like, that's who I thought it was. Like, I had no idea it was you. I've never gotten that. Really? Yeah. It reminds me of like, I don't know his songs that well. That's like, I'm on my way.

You know that song? That's like the voice you give. I've chased that song for so long. Really? Like when you go in to make a song, like there's songs you think of when you're writing. And like that song, Castle on the Hill. Okay. I've wanted to create for so long and I just can't get close.

Well, it is. But I'm glad you think it sounds like that. Because I don't know Ed Sheeran music at all. I just know that song and I was singing on the podcast. He's a huge inspiration of mine. I love him. That's a very big compliment. Thank you so much. Hopefully you like him because that's the vibe I get. I love him. Yeah, he is kind of amazing. He's so cute too. He's so cute. Cute British guy. And he's also another one that you just are like, I love that he loves his wife. I love that he talks about it. You know what I mean? They're high school sweethearts. And I just like, I just don't

see that, especially with musicians. Usually they're always cheating or they're just doing whatever. So I just love people who love their wives. It makes me so excited. And it gives me that vibe. Speaking of musicians who lost their parents, who have dead parents, Clinton Kane, what did you think when people thought you were...

I saw you post something that's like, this is my actual real story, that he lied about one of his parents being dead. I posted something? You said something like when people think. Oh, people were accusing me of not losing my parents. And I was like, guys, look, I have receipts. And I did an unboxing of my parents online.

Which is the most wild thing I've ever seen. Really? When you're like, my parents in a FedEx box. And you're like, here they are. Ziploc bag. That's how I got them. Yeah. That seems very

tactless for the company. But it's so funny because this is a very common thing that happens when people lose parents and are shipping their remains to other places. What the fuck do you put them in?

And so my brother, I think, sent it to me in a Ziploc bag. Oh my, wow. But we have a very unhinged fucking comedy and I think it's just a coping way.

But the Clinton thing, I don't know. Clinton and I were friends for a very long time. Oh, you know him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. That's how we bonded, actually, is because of our dead parents. Did he tell you that both of his were dead? Yeah.

So, I mean, okay. Wow. Okay. But I haven't talked to him since. Wow. Wait, so you're like, oh, my parents died. He's like, mine too? So Clinton was the first show I ever performed.

I opened for Clinton. What? Yeah, we were very close. And no, so many people ask me, they're like, well, how do you feel? He lied to you. And I'm like, look, I genuinely, I don't care. That's the thing. I don't take offense to it.

It's not my, so many people are like, well, do you want an apology? I'm like, for what? Like, if he genuinely wanted, like, he told me his mom fell down a flight of stairs and like hit his head hit her head and and died from a a brain something after and oh my god it was a whole story then it wasn't just like my parents are dead it's like no like he gave me the whole story about how his brother died and everything like I but that's the thing is like I it's not my business like I don't know how to say this like it's not my just because he said that to me, I'm not like offended by it. But so many people want me to be.

I think. Yeah. I'm just like, live your life. But ever since it came out, like we were talking regularly. And then when this came out, I think people just made it weird with me. I think because they were like, oh, he's cosplaying as Alex Warren. And I was like, that's just unnecessary. Yeah, maybe though.

I just don't. Like maybe he stole like an identity or something. He saw it working for you. He's like. I think when you write songs and especially when like, you know, whether someone's dead to you or whatever, I think that's an easier story to sell that they were actually dead. I just think over time he convinced himself it was real. That could very well be because I think he says he's not so close with his mom.

So maybe he wrote her off as being dead or something. Yeah. I try to understand the psychology behind it too. I'm like, why? I personally, I think with a lot of these things i just try not to get hung up on it yeah that's actually a better way to be i live my life i write my songs i hang out with my wife and dogs and i fuck off like that's that's i wish i could be like you i'm so into gossip i'm really i am i'm gonna cover the same way she loves it she'll like she'll she'll

do a deep dive on all of it and she's's obsessed with it. Like going down the loophole. Do you guys watch TikToks together ever? No. Oh, you don't? No. I hate drama. I'm so like – Wow.

I'm too forgiving. Like I'm, again, a people pleaser. Yeah. Like if someone had fucked me over and I saw them on the street, I would somehow like want to make them feel good. Oh, my God. You're like, I'm sorry for you being an asshole to me. Right, right, right. That's just how it is. So, yeah,'t know she's not that way um she's very much like if

someone threw over she's like i want them to burn yeah i'm like okay this is a five three girl who is this on the outside very sweet right but she holds a lot of anger um let's look at you guys balance each other because that's how i am yeah yeah she's like so i i usually calm her down yeah but when it comes down to drama she gets so soaked into it it's so i can't watch it i cringe like it hurts really like in reality shows i ask to skip a lot like if someone cheats on a reality show i'm like no i can't do that like i get so invested into it where i'm like just skip it like i just want to see like i don't like watching that type of stuff wow and even like dude in your- I'm a f***ing dude. It's crazy.

Insensitive is a good word, I feel. I think you're just in touch with your emotions. You don't want anyone else to be hurt. Maybe. In real life, do you not like drama either? No. Anything personal and you're just like, no drama? No.

Even the drama with my wedding, I kind of was just like, guys, this is crazy. How do you deal with that? Because it obviously went really viral, your wedding drama. And it's like, how do you deal with that in general? Do you just let things go? Are you upset for a minute and just don't show it? How do you process it? I don't get upset.

You don't get upset? Uh-uh. So that all came out, and you're like, it's fine. Yeah. Wow, that's amazing. Cobra obviously had her own reservations of it. And since I'm her husband, of course, I have to, like, back her in anything, but, um, no, I, I, I don't know. I think there's, like, a switch with me, where I'm just like, guys, this is not a big deal.

And nothing, you don't hold on to anything, like, you're not a ticking time bomb where you, like, explode one day after, because you hold it in. No. I love it. I mean, I believe people are like, you exist, like, as my husband's that way, too, like, nothing bothers him truly, so. I think there's, like, things that bother me, I just, I'm just yeah i'm really good at like being like okay it's not the end of the world again i think it's just because what i've been through like i don't yes i don't care

you've had enough actual drama happen to you that you're like i don't think i do care when cover gets upset so then i'm like okay like you know if she's upset i want to help fix this and so like i'll kind of just follow her her wing but like there's a lot of things like if someone like I cover can kick my so like so everyone's like oh you're not gonna stand up for cover I'm like guys kill someone she's the sweetest girl though it's so funny so you feel like in the protector category like maybe she's your protector like she will like look out for you yeah yeah I think that's it's also like something where she can tell like if i get upset about something like when i do get upset about something i don't talk about it i just like i fight it with myself and it's like i'll wait till i cool down and she's like are you good and i'm like i'm fine i'm like let me let me handle it i mean it's gonna be so great

i think you will make like excellent parents and i know co-worker has talked about wanting and maybe it's jokes on tiktok but like if i get many likes, we can have a baby or something like that. Are you guys looking in the future to have that soon? Well, probably – that was funny that she posted that because we talk about it a lot. Well, probably – You do? I want to buy a house first. OK.

Because I feel like there's something about stability and not – we move around every year right now. Yeah, you said that. That's crazy. Well, yeah. We just – I don't know. I think there's just something where like I've been saving up for my dream home. She's been saving up and like her credit's really bad. And my credit is like weird. So like we've just, again, with being homeless, I don't know if you would get a perfect credit score from that. So we've just been building up our credit and like when we will inevitably, hopefully buy a house at the end of the year. And then try for a kid probably next too. Like I want to have a kid by I'm 25. So you're going to be like young parents.

Yeah, that'd be so cool to be 40 and my kid's 20. That'd be so sick. I always say that. I'm like, that's so cool. Yeah, that'd be really cool. And then you can see your great grandkids. You know, not only are you great. I'm like, hopefully I can see at least my daughter get married.

I don't even think we'll see grandkids. But I'm like, people can see they're great. We're old. Jesus Christ. We had our kids late. I would have loved to have kids. If I met them in my life, I would have loved to have them at 20. She's two right now, right? I have two kids, yeah. Amazing. But it's like, yeah, now I'm 36. How would have loved to have kids. If I met Bill in my life, I would have loved to have him at 20. She's two right now, right?

I have two kids, yeah. Amazing. But it's like, yeah, now I'm 36. How is that? I love it. I love being – I'm very much like – I mean, I guess a lot of people can relate to you, not in the sense that my parents died, but just brokenness, right? Just like stuff at home, whatever.

And so I think I've always wanted kids that way too, to have some sort of family, like a sense of family. We never had holidays together, right? Holidays were at a Chinese restaurant with my dad and his wife or his girlfriend or whatever. So I always wanted a sense of family. So I feel like that's why I wanted kids so bad and it just never really happened for me. But I think like you said, when you do have kids, you either become like your parents or you break the cycle. So for me, it's really important to have tradition and holidays and a space where all the kids can come all the time and just feel safe.

And I feel like when you don't have that, but, um, I think being young parents is like a beautiful thing. Do you have advice for people like young love? I especially think young love gets a lot, right? Like people are like, you guys are so young, date other people. I got lucky. Like that's the straight up thing. There's no like secret. I think genuinely I got lucky with a person I'm super compatible with. I think dating a lot of people just date because they want to put a label on what they were doing before. And it's exciting to say I have a girlfriend, but I just think dating is like a trial to marriage and dating someone and being

with someone is just all about compromise. It's how much are you willing to give up of yourself? Like not give up of yourself, but like for me, I didn't have to change anything about myself to blend with cover. Like there was things like life changes that but, like, for me, I didn't have to change anything about myself to blend with cover. Like, there was things, like, life changes that, like, obviously she's from Hawaii and I'm from this and I have a broken home and she doesn't. And so there's a lot of things that I had to adjust in my life to be able to be the person that she wanted. But it wasn't impossible. And I think a lot of times when people date, they're like, oh, well, like, she wants me to be this and I'm not capable of being that. And then it's like that's a perfect example of maybe she's not the right

person um so yeah I didn't have to change a lot about me and cover what she felt like she changed or you know adjusted was like something that made her a better person and made me a better person and now we don't fight which is crazy I mean that is and to be. And to be there so long. Dude, we're so lucky. There's just something where if I feel a certain way, she's like, you know what? Heck yeah, whatever. And if she feels a certain way and I'm like, dude, I'm sorry. It's definitely kind of crazy.

How could we have it? It is cool. Your life is almost like it's divine intervention, all the stuff that's happening. One thing leads to another. And you're talking about possibly moving out of LA. Yeah. And you talked about the South. And you're talking about possibly moving out of L.A. Yeah. And you talked about, you know, the South.

Have you ever thought about moving to Hawaii? We want to have a house in Hawaii just because, like, when we have a kid, I have no family. Like, that's just, like, a given. Like, half my family's dead. So it's, like, for us, I want to have a family-oriented family. Like, I want people to be helping around and stuff. And she's got a huge family. Oh, she does.

Hawaiian, like massive. Like her dad is, like it's a whole thing where like I even think like she would do great on a podcast like this and just talk about like her life because she has like a huge like family,

whether it's step siblings or whatever and half brothers and half sisters. So just to have like helping hands, I think is really important. Also like like you know having a kid raised by family is huge oh yeah

that's why we have my mom and sister down the street so they oh my god that's amazing yeah so they can help raise

because you really do need so many people you know it takes a village yes it does it's like the saying when people on TikTok

like don't have the village or they're doing kids by themselves I'm like that's scary yeah how do you do it it's actually so insane because Hawaii is so beautiful

and I feel like to raise a family there would be like, yeah, the vibes for sure. I've been blessed enough and cover is blessed enough where we make a good amount of money. And like, that's what scares me is I grew up with nothing. So I can appreciate everything. Yeah. How do I raise my, and especially in LA, we see so many kids who are like, who literally get a G wagon for their first car. And they have all these things where it's just like, how do you appreciate life when it's so easy? I know that's a, that's a tough balance

that I don't know either. So that's something I have to figure out. And I think, you know, like it's a weird struggle to have, I guess, where it's like, Oh boo hoo, you have to teach your kid about discipline when you have everything. But like genuinely, like I've been blessed and I don't know how to raise my kid not to be a dick. Yeah. I don't know either. I don't know the answer to that. I feel like no one does. Right. You don't know how to raise my kid not to be a d***. Yeah. I don't know either. I don't know the answer to that. I feel like no one does, right? You don't know how. You want to give your kids everything, but also they're going to be spoiled.

I think the thing I've kind of thought about is your kids are a reflection of you. So it's like as long as you are like, you know, you've got a good head on your shoulders, it's like I think your kids will be fine. Yeah. Well, now. I too have. It wasn't always the case. I'm like, are they going to be like me then or now?

But you've been through it, so you know how to navigate it, I think. That's true. Well, that's a good question, I guess, for you because I also have a mental illness. I have borderline personality disorder, and I'm always scared my kids will – That's fun. It's fun, and it's wild. And it's manageable now, but I always wonder, like you said, your mom had bipolar. Do you ever – did you ever look in yourself to see, like, if you have traits of it?

Did you ever talk to a therapist about it? Do you it's like oh I don't think so I I don't think so only for the fact that again like I've said and not a lot of things tick me and like I won't ran like it's really really hard to get me mad like genuinely like you have to say some like to me I I've probably been mad to the point where I want to punch someone twice in the last six years. Yeah, that's like nothing. So it's like with me, it's like I get mad if I get upset. It's for two seconds. And then I somehow just tell myself it's not a big deal.

I mean, that's that is amazing, especially if she is bipolar. Right. But I guess because you definitely don't come across bipolar at all. But I just wondered. I like wondered if even like you said you drink you drink an alcoholic. You ever wonder like, oh, man, am I going to go down this path of being an addict you know I don't have an addictive personality oh my god that's what are you sure you're your parents kids I know yeah they used to make jokes about me being adopted as a kid so it could be but um yeah no I I used to vape I was addicted to cigarette

not addicted but like I would smoke cigarettes because a lot of my friends would smoke yeah and then when I I was like oh I want to be a singer and I just stopped. Wow. You just quit. You're like, I'm done. I'm done with cigarettes. Yeah, I don't know. Cobra has a really

addictive personality though. I love, I wanted me here so bad because I do too. I feel like there's so many like. Oh my God, you guys would get along so well. Yeah, that's why I was like,

where is, I just love everything. She's such a sweetheart. Yeah, I love everything about her. I was her original fan with like the merch and stuff like that. I really loved her.

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Well, I would love for her to be on here. She's like a queen. Pop the cherry on the podcast. Yeah, because you're so open because you are so different from each other and you're so open and like willing to talk about everything. Well, I think people want to see that. I think like there's like I could easily just sit here and I bet my publicist would love for me to give PR answers. But – sorry.

But I don't know. I feel like that's not – I don't think like it's not a reflection of me. And also like when I hop on a stage, I'm going to say something and I'd rather you not get thrown off by it. Right. Right. And I feel like even your fun and stuff like that is still like very, the way you present yourself is just very just like likable.

Like there's nothing like problematic about you at all. You know what I mean? You're just like such an open book and you have so much like, you know, baggage, I guess you could say. I gotta come around here more. I just get lit up. This is amazing.

I mean, cause I truly do. Like I've always like adored you and like getting to know you now as a person, I'm just like, oh, this makes sense. Like you're actually like a good person and a good guy. Which is, I think, why you have the success that you have. And I feel like you always are in good guy scenarios. I think it was – I think this is public.

It has to be because I don't know you like this. Please, hit me with it. Hit me with it. Is it – was it James Charles who was – there was, like, a break in happening and you stopped it? Yeah. And I'm like, how are you always just, like – Do I get so lucky with this shit? I had – all right. So, James – James is a good friend of mine. And I'm like, how are you always just like, so lucky with this. I had,

all right. So James, James, a good friend of mine and James was throwing a birthday thing. And so we went over there and I had Instacarted popsicles. Um, so my Instacart was set to his house when I ordered Instacart the next day. And I'm like, Oh, and I called him and I was like, Hey, I accidentally Instacarted a soda. So I'm going to swing by and grab it. You're out of, he's out of town. I'm like, so don't think I'm breaking into your house or you have, you're being robbed. I show up and he goes, let me know when you get there. Cause the gate's gonna be closed. I show up and the gates open and I go weird. I pull in.

And as I pull in five mass dudes run down the stairs and book it down to the backyard. And I go, okay, so he's getting broken in right now. I call him and I go, Hey, there's someone breaking into your house. Just adds up. Check your cameras. Cause he has cameras everywhere in the house. And he goes, ha ha. Very funny. I'm like, James, I love you. You're getting robbed. And he goes, that's not funny. And I'm like, James, I don't know how to say this. You're getting robbed. And so, um, he checks the cameras and he goes, Oh my God, I'm getting robbed. I had showed checks the cameras he goes oh my god i'm getting robbed i'd showed up right when they broke in so they broke in went upstairs to look for stuff

and right when i showed up there's a spotter on the street i didn't see and so i'm blocking them in and oh my god they run out and i go how did they know i was there they had walkie-talkies and i look right over they hop the the fence. They get into the Mercedes. I start filming them. And they try to hit me with their car. It was the craziest. You as a person? Yes.

Your body? I'm filming them. And they literally veer at me. And I jump out of the way. Oh, my God. That's what I'm saying. Your life is like a movie. Like, the house is always happening to you.

Like, you're there right when someone breaks in. Then they try to run you over with a car. Like what? Life's a movie. You're like minding your own business. You're like, I have to be home with my dog and my wife. I just wanted my chips. Did you get them?

Yeah. Okay, so they didn't take that. So it was left at the door. Yeah. And okay, so they probably thought, well, no one's home. Interesting, yeah. That area you got to move out of just in general. It's a nice area.

Like it's expensive houses. So nice. Keep in mind, this is like Machine Gun Kelly lives there like these are all like celebrities in this neighborhood before it was Logan Paul like

it's crazy everyone has security now no and it sucks it sucks you have to have that too it's like and then it still happens well I grew up in a small town where like

everyone's barefoot no one locks their front doors and everyone waves to each other yeah it's not like that anymore I wonder if Carlsbad is still like that it is yeah everyone just rides bikes

yeah it's so sick it's just so expensive is it now? it's like like that anymore. I wonder if Carlsbad is still like that. It is, yeah. Is it? It's still true? Yeah, it's so sick. No, I love that area. Is it now? It's like $4 million for a shack. It's crazy. I don't know how people afford it. No, I know California in general, too, and then taxes.

Everyone's moving out to Nashville or Texas. I know. I just love the weather so much. I'm so addicted to Southern California. I'm addicted to the beach. That's the thing I'm going to have to give up. Oh, yeah. Well, if you have a house in Hawaii, then you'll be okay. That'd be nice.

Yeah, but if you get gridlocked, yeah. I've got to make a make a few records to do that yeah I think you're on your way for sure I love all your songs the new troubled waters I'm so excited of course because you have like a little clip on tiktok and then I did get sent a preview of it as well you got it hell yes do you like it it was so good oh I gotta send you some stuff then I got some songs I wrote about Cobra that you'd love. That's what I'm saying. The Carry You Home, the chorus of it, it's so beautiful. Thank you. And it's one of those things where you just want that reassurance, right?

That you'll always be there no matter what. And I think it's so, so beautiful. And again, people don't write that unless you're Ed Sheeran, right? No one writes these kind of songs. I think it's so good. And Traveled Waters, I love that you have Cobra in the music video. Yes, dude. I haven't seen the music video, obviously. When I get it, I good. And Troubled Waters, I love that you have cover in the music video. Yes, dude. I haven't seen the music video,

obviously it's not out yet. When I get it, I have your number now from this, which you're going to regret because I'll text you a ton. Yes, please. I'll text you the music video when I get it.

It's so sick. Oh my gosh. So what is the, can you give us, I guess it'll be out by the time this is, but can you tell us what it's about?

Yeah, I mean, Troubled Waters is just, we were writing a song kind of chasing the rumor has it type of vibe of a song. And with that song, it's just, it's something where like, again, like not to be all sappy, but like it's all about like trauma and the things I've gone through and being able to open up and hoping they don't run after. And like so many times where like I realized like I didn't start telling my story until Logan Paul told me to, which is so funny.

What did he say? He was like, well, I told him my story when I went on this podcast. He's like, bro, why don't you talk about this? And I'm like, I don't want to make people sad. Yeah. Like my life has not been great. And I feel like everyone who's in the limelight has had this amazing life.

And I feel like when I talk to people and tell them what I'm like, they feel like they need to treat me differently or just leave because it's a little stressful, I guess. So yeah, that song is kind of like, you know, when the waves get crazy and, you know, all these things I thought of, like a storm out in the middle of the ocean and it's like, would you stay with me or would you go?

I love, and it's like, and cover being in the video. Is it that, cause you guys are like on a boat or a ship or something like that, right? So are you guys like, what I saw is you jumping out waters. She gets seasick too, yeah. Wait, were you guys, you were in a, were you in a pool, right? So it starts off on a real boat. And so we went out in the Marina and went on a real sailboat for like six hours. And then we came back, my house where like I drown and we created my pool into like a set to make it look like the ocean.

So it was so sick. And then the next day we rented out an entire soundstage in Burbank and put the sailboat in that stage and then built a water stage around it and to replicate a storm oh my god were you okay so we did something similar in a music video were they like water boarding you were people like making waves with you and it feels like you're actually drowning yes it was the scariest thing even simulate it i had to take a break from singing for the last week because i have so much chlorine just like all like my these things i don't know what you call them are just so inflamed because of all the water I swallowed.

Really? And what about your eyes? Did your eyes get burned at all? For like three days, dude. Yeah. Did you have any weights? Was there anything where you're doing underwater? She had to have weights put in her jacket.

You know your shit. Yeah. We did one music video like this too. She had to put her weights in her jacket. For me, I would just let the air out of my. Oh, I see. Okay. Was there any shots at the bottom,

like at the pool? Yeah. Okay, so she's weighted down. Yeah. Oh my God, it's the scariest thing. You know your shit. Yeah. Was there any shots at the bottom, like at the pool? Yeah. Okay. So she's weighted down. Yeah. Oh my God. It's the scariest thing. We had our problem. We had sand, like sand weights on us.

So the sand was getting in our eyes with the water because the sand was coming. Yeah. We had like actual like weight plates. Oh. They put it in her pocket because she kept floating. Oh, I see. And then you can, yeah. Same with us because we were trying to do Shape of Water where they like kiss underneath

the water and so we had to keep doing the thing. We kissed underwater. Yeah. Oh my God. I love it so much. I think. We're just following the Trisha handbook. No, we just saw the Shape of Water. they like kiss underneath the water and so you had to keep doing the thing. We kissed underwater, yeah. Oh my God, I love it so much. We're just following the Trisha handbook. No, we just saw the Shape of Water. I think Chapel Roan did one for Casual.

She was also underwater with a sea creature. No, we just, I saw every music video. I love Chapel Roan. And your cover, did we talk about this on the podcast or before? Before. Okay, your cover of Pink Pony Club. So why that song?

That was beautiful. First of all, it's amazing. So Covert really likes Chapel Roan. She's upset. Right before the big blow up, she was listening to her. And I was like, oh, she's a great artist or whatever. And then she played Pink Pony Club. And I was like, that's such a good song.

One of my favorite songs of hers. And I love singing it. And I think it's cool. I loved it. I love that so much. I love when you do covers. I thought that was so interesting. This is my first cover I've ever posted, too, I think. Really? Yeah, loved it. I love that so much. I love when you do like covers. I thought that was so interesting. This is my first cover I've ever posted too, I think.

Really? Yeah, like on YouTube, like a full cover. I don't think I've ever done one. Where was it at? It was at? SiriusXM. Oh, okay. And did they ask you to or you just were like, I want to do a cover song?

They asked me to do a cover. Oh, okay. They wanted me to do a fully different song and I was like, no, I'm doing this song. Really? Yeah. I love that you got to pick it too. I know. And your songs you write, you write yours?

Yeah. I've never taken a song. Wow. I've always written all my own songs. That is so amazing. Yeah, you're also very theatrical. Your voice is theatrical. Thanks.

I think people are referring to some kind of Greatest Showman vibes a little bit. It was so funny. Actually, I write a lot of my songs after that. Wait, really? I'm obsessed with The Greatest Showman. I'm a whore for The Greatest Showman. Wait, really? My favorite movie ever.

Oh, interesting. Are you a musical theater person or just that specific musical? I did theater in high school. Yeah, I love theater. I played, I was the Mad Hatter. What?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm a big, like, I just wasn't, like, trained singing-wise, so, like, I always didn't know what I was doing, so I have a weird, like,

singing technique that a lot of people, a lot of people haven't seen me live because I just didn't do a lot of it until recently. So everyone's now noticing that I do vibrato by shaking my head, which is just weird. I just never got taught how to sing. So you just kind of do it. I can't get out of it.

I've tried with so many vocal coaches and everything. They're like, OK, just embrace it then, I guess, because you can't not do this. I kind of love it, though. So I will shake my head to get vibrato. It's weird. Oh, you know what? All the great not do this. I kind of love it, though. So, like, I will shake my head, like, to get vibrato. It's weird. Oh, you know what? All the great singers do that. Do you know who Ben Platt is?

Love. He does the same thing. You're talking to a theater kid. Love Ben Platt. Okay, I did not know this, because you never, ever talk about musical theater ever on your I don't think anyone wants to know that I like theater. The theater kids do. I'm obsessed with musical theater, and I love.

Yeah, but, like, I'm not, like, I did, like, a few plays. I fell in love with it. I obsessed with um uh Dear Evan Hansen the best the best in the whole world I love that that's my favorite show yeah I want to do especially Ben Platt's version so good Mike Feist who's so popular now he played the original Connor and what a singer yeah might I add so good which is like now he's in challengers he's like like a movie star. But I'm like, but he was so good as like a singer first. What would be your dream Broadway? Would you do Broadway? I don't have a good voice for that, I don't think.

I have such a raspy voice that it's like I can't sing theatrical very well. I feel like you could be in Les Mis. Here's the thing. I have a really bad technique. Like I don't sing correctly. And so therefore it's like it's not like they're very, like, technical. And, like, you can even hear it in my talking voice. It's very, like, vocal fry, like all these things.

And I think those people are very soft-spoken. And they sing, waving through the window. Like, you know, it's like a very, like, duh, duh, duh. Oh, my God. First of all, that was beautiful. Oh, thank you. First of all, I love that you sing. I always ask people to sing.

And people are like, no, no. And I love that you sing that. And specifically that line. Like, I just, Ben Platt. Dude, so good. But he's got a very theatrical voice. He has a theatrical voice. But I feel like you could. Like if you were.

I'd have to get trained for it. Which I think they do, right? Like you always see people go into these shows and then they get trained because I think you'd be so amazing. Thank you. If you could, if your voice is like exactly how you want it to be, which role would you pick? Like what would be a dream role?

Revival, whatever. I would love to do The Greatest Showman. Like whatever. I would love to do The Greatest Showman. Genuinely, I would love to do The Greatest Showman. It's coming. It's coming to Broadway. I know. I saw that. I saw that.

At D23. They did the live thing. I just did. I don't care who I would be in it. I would just want to be in it. Ooh, that would be amazing. Yeah, Jeremy Jordan was supposed to be the original whatever Zac Efron's role was. Do you know Jeremy Jordan?

He was in Newsies. Is he doing the musical now? I don't know if he was, but he was supposed to be Zac Efron's part. I remember. And Jim Jordan? He was in Newsies. Is he doing the musical now? I don't know if he was, but he was supposed to be Zac Efron's part. I remember. And then they kicked him, right, when Zac, yeah.

Have you seen him performing with like Hugh Jackman in the rehearsals? So good. I know. So good. Sucks. Then they obviously go

for a bigger name, but maybe he'll get his chance. I wonder if it would have been as big without Zac. Do you think? No, probably not. And I'm sure that's why they did it because I love Zac Efron.

I don't know if he's like an amazing singer, but I like him. Well, high school musical he didn't sing. Right, the first one he did it. I think they tried to get him to sing in the second. But he did Hairspray. I mean't know if he's like an amazing singer, but I like him. Well, high school musical, he didn't sing. Right, the first one, he didn't. I think they tried to get him to sing in the second. But he did Hairspray.

I mean, he did a bunch of musicals. Wow, yeah. Which you're like, I love him. But I think if they did Greatest Showman, I think Jeremy Jordan could go in the role of Hugh Jackman. And then I think he'd go in the role of Zac Efron. That would kind of make sense. Would you do it?

If they ask me, yeah. Because I feel like they do. I don't think they'd ask me. They will. They stunt cast so many people. And you're actually talented. Thank you. You know what I mean? Plus, you have 16 million followers on TikTok. I don't think they'll ask me. They will. They stunt cast so many people. And you're actually talented. Thank you. You know what I mean?

Plus, you have 16 million followers on TikTok. So. I don't know. That would be wild. I think I would be more nervous for that than any of my shows. Really? Yeah. I don't get nervous for my shows anymore.

But I would be nervous for that. But do you like to act as well? Do you like the acting part of it? I'm terrible at acting. Really? Even as Matt Hatter, you don't think you crushed it? I just sing. They're very like this.

I didn't sing right. That's pretty good, though. Thank you. They can change it. I appreciate it. But yeah, I don't know. Again, it comes out of the imposter syndrome thing, and I'm just starting to feel like I belong in the music space. And I think if I tried to do Broadway or something like that, I think I would definitely have some panic attacks for sure. Really? I feel like you'll crush it. I feel like when you would do it, you crush it. I'm manifesting it for you.

I love musical theater. And when I meet an influencer that like appreciates and loves it, I'm like, oh, absolutely. There's not a lot. No, there's not. Which I'm like so surprised about. I'm like. Because our jobs are very theatrical. Yes, exactly.

The performance. I guess a lot of influencers aren't necessarily performers. You know what I mean? Like my goal, my dream would be to be like on Broadway. Rosie O'Donnell did it and she wasn't like the greatest. Like that's my dream. I'm like one day, you know, but I think a lot of, my dream would be to be like on Broadway. Rosie O'Donnell did it and she wasn't like the greatest. Like that's my dream. I'm like one day, you know, but I think a lot of TikTokers, like you said, rely on just being cute, right?

Which is a talent to itself. If I was just cute, I would be doing that too. But I think like, I think a lot of people don't like crave to be on stage. They would get nervous to do what you do. I love it. It's the best feeling ever. I don't, I don't do drugs or anything because that, that feeling tops everything. Do you get, so you get the high performing.

Do you ever have a crash afterwards where you come home and you're like, oh, man. After, I just want to eat everything. Oh. Do you eat like diet before? Yeah. So on tour, I only eat like chicken and rice. Wow. So I lose a lot of weight when I go on tour.

It's awesome. I come back like with a six pack and everything. Wow. But yeah. So after a show, I'll just stuff my face with whatever. And if I have a day off, I won't follow a day diet. What do you do on your day off? What's a cheat day for you? In and out if they have it, but if not, I will, I do not discriminate. I will eat anything.

I love that in and out the cheat day to me. That's like protein. I'm like, that's kind of like keto. Well, I know I'm saying today, like I went in and out last night. I'll probably go today. Like I'm obsessed. Right here down the street. I go to this one. It's 17 minutes from my house and I don't care. Why don't you go to the Woodland Hills one or something like closer? Not the same. I don't go to In-N-Out's if they have security guards in front of them.

That's just. That's a good rule of thumb. That's my rule. I'm such a target. I'm just a weak. But you know what I'm saying? Like I'm just, I feel like I'm such a target. And especially if anyone's ever watched one of my interviews, they're like, oh, that's

an easy target. Let's grab them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get you. I feel the same way for sure. I'm such a target, especially if anyone's ever watched one of my interviews. They're like, oh, that's an easy target. Let's grab him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get you. I feel the same way, for sure. I'm very much like, I don't like to go out by myself. I won't go out anywhere by myself. Don't you have the pink Rolls Royce?

I did, and I got rid of it for that reason, because people just follow you. I love that car. It was great. That car was so cool. I know you were saying your sister wants a pink bug, and Tarayami, she had a pink. Pink Mini Cooper. Yeah. Love her.

Yeah, I love her too she's so sweet oh my god she's the best and also very humble as well like I do love to meet like young people who are like rich

and like famous and stuff like that but also very sweet and like down to earth thank you because it's like half and half yeah it's very much

you give that because very much so many people and I get it like to have fame at such a young age and like money is like crazy

because I don't I don't know what I'd be doing but Tara's amazing Tana love you close she talks about you a lot on the cancel podcast does she yes yeah do you not watch it i love canceled it's like one of my favorite i don't really watch drama so drama yeah yeah yeah so i love tana though i'll call her and she'll just up she'll give me like synopsis

of everything like she'll just give me a summary and be like yeah like this this i'm like oh great i'm like thank god i'm caught up on everything now fills you in yeah no she she said she was supposed to come to your wedding but it was the same birthday i think her birthday trip was like her birthday was that same yeah because she was talking about it on there but i do want to go back to the dieting on tour because you if it's okay to talk about like your weight yeah okay so you you guys have been open about it because you talk about losing all the weight i remember you guys made shrimp tacos i follow it because i've never lost weight like i i did keto i did ozempic i did a lot of stuff you did oh wow okay so i love being open about it like so many people can hide it half the people in this industry are on ozempic um i think almost everyone i know is right like so cover has an insulin

resistance so when she actually started getting like shots for that that's what like fixed like fixed like whatever like she would eat super healthy. She would work out every day. She did whatever and nothing. Like nothing would change. And, you know, she always like struggled with that, I think. And especially we're on the Internet. People comment about it a lot.

I know. And so she was like, you know, I'm going to get this figured out. And so she took a blood test. She went to a what are the people who do the woman things? Gynecologist. Gynecologist. Sorry. She went to a gynecologist and they were like, hey, you have PCOS and endometriosis.

And so she got put on stuff to fix that. And the byproduct of that was because she was eating healthy and everything. She lost the weight. Wow. So she, oh, that's so, that's good to know though, is to go to like a doctor and get that fixed. I feel like so many young girls, especially like they don't know why they're retaining weight. Yeah.

And then they try to start themselves and they're still not losing weight and you're just like, what is it? I have the same issue, too. And I'm very active. I surf a lot. I skateboard. I play volleyball. I do a lot of things all the time. And I go on runs where I wear weighted, like, weighted vests and stuff.

And I'll run, like, three miles every, like, so often. Oh, my gosh. Like, I'm very active. But the thing is, it's like it's's still like I retain weight in weird spots. And so I got my blood test and they were like, you have the testosterone level of a 75 year old man. I'm like, what? Wait, really? Yeah. So they put me on, well, first they said, because I drink like 12 Diet Cokes a day, if not 15 Diet Cokes a day. I drink a lot of Diet Coke. So they were like, you're pre-diabetic um so we're

gonna put you on semi-glutide or ozempic or whatever that was for that which i was like yeah are you kidding yeah i have to be on ozempic hell yeah sign me up yeah but like i didn't want to lose all this weight and people are like what are you doing and i'm like uh i'm running like i'm gonna tell you what but like what's nice is i got to be on ozempic and i got like i got prescribed it because of being pre-diabetic yeah and that like i didn't ask for it so like immediately i'm like okay cool i'm in the clear yeah i'm not i'm not doing it for weight loss and now i get testosterone shots too so it's not like wow it's not like the the part where like you know whether someone's transitioning or. It's like just barely enough just to put me at like the level that like Moses is at or like anyone.

What does it do? What does it do, the testosterone shots? Like what does it balance out? Like why do you need testosterone? I have no idea. So without testosterone or the level of it, you get brain fog. You get depression. You get just a bunch of stuff i think like i'm

not very i would by 2 p.m i'd be tired and all these things so once i started getting that um i just i don't know i was happier i i didn't have brain fog i also cold plunge every day now and i sauna and i are you done with the diet cokes no no that was the one when i got pregnant they said do don't do diet coke they like, it'll kill your baby. What? Yeah, because I love Diet Coke. Thank God I can't get pregnant. And Cobra hates soda, so that works out perfect.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And specifically Diet Coke. So my biggest problem is Diet Coke. I will drink Diet Coke every day 15 times a day. But when I sing, I can't. Oh. Because it's bad for your vocals. I see.

So when you're on tour, what do you drink? Do you do the throat coat? OK. I'm allergic to ginger, so I can't have throat coke. Oh, vocals. I see. So when you're on tour, what do you drink? Do you do the throat coat? Okay. I'm allergic to ginger, so I can't have throat coat. Oh, no. So you just do regular tea? I just do tea or I'll do hot water with honey. Oh, okay.

And then you're active. Obviously, you're on stage. You're performing for a whole thing. I also run on tour. So I'll go on runs in the morning. Because you – yeah. The way tour works is we'll play at 9. We'll wrap at 11 or something like that.

The bus takes off at 12. And then we'll wake up in a new state. And we'll wake – you can'll wrap at 11 or something like that the bus takes off at 12 and then we'll wake up in a new state and we'll wake you can wake up at any time you want sound checks not till four so unless i have a radio interview or radio performance or tv performance that day i'm just hanging out on the bus or going to a hotel every every day we have a different hotel that you can go shower at because you're not supposed to shower on that bus how come um well there's not really good ways to do the, I don't know what you call it, the piping and everything. So you can't poop on a tour bus either.

So people just choose not to shower on the bus just because it's like you already have access to hotels. Why would you shower on the bus? We use it as storage. So a lot of people put guitar cases and stuff so that way you don't have to pay extra money for storage and stuff. So you travel with a live band?

Yeah, yeah. Four piece or how many? I play guitar. So I'll have a live band? Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. Four piece or how many? I play guitar. So I'll have a guitarist and a keyboard guy. So he plays both and he'll just have a guitar on him and play keys. And then I'll play main guitar or whatever the accents were and then I'll have a drummer.

And then I run tracks. And then once I start playing bigger venues, like right now I'm doing 1,000 cap persons, 1,500. That's huge. Yeah, 1,500's big, right? But you shouldn't have five people on stage on 1,000. Oh, really? The stage, I don't's it's big 1500 is big right but you shouldn't have five people on stage on a thousand oh really the stage i don't think it's big enough and also it's like you're everyone's so close to you yeah that like that sound really isn't gonna matter um you can always do it with

tracks but once you do 3 000 like 2500 like that's 2500 to 3000 you can have a five-piece band are you doing that on this next tour october october and all that is still 1500 it's about 800 to a 1500 and then they said i could sell 3000 but they want me to just do slower like the way the industry works is you always just slowly bump them you want to sell out so they're doing three like i'll do a europe tour again next year and they'll do like three nights 2000 people wow three nights that's wow and i heard you already sold out a lot of your shows for my entire. My entire tour is sold out, yeah. Oh, my gosh. I can't even promote it. You're like, okay, don't buy tickets because it's already sold out. But at every show, I do performances outside for people.

Wait, what do you mean? If people show up and they want to show them, I give them a show. What if someone just meets you on the street? They're like, can you sing for me? Yeah. Wow. If I'm warmed up, I don't want to sound bad. Oh, my gosh. That's actually amazing. I love busking.

It's fun. That's so cool. And like, you could just be out there just performing with your guitar or do you just do it like acapella? Just like here. Oh my God. I love that. So who's your dream collab?

Like dream duet? Oh God. I love Noah Khan. Oh. But if I was to do like something complimenting my voice, Adele. Oh yeah. I think Adele would rip I did see your TikTok it's such a long shot I've been posting

trying to get Adele to feature on this song I have coming out but it's September 6th but I don't think she'll do it you never know though the power of social media is actually so real I'm just a small chum in the water I think Adele would I love the Ella Henderson did I love that one that was cool all chum in the water though i think i think adele would yeah i love the was it ella henderson did uh

yeah i love that one that was cool so how does that work then did she just approach you and you do you approach her like how does it work i don't know how that worked actually i don't know how that happened they were they were talking to me about it and they're like hey we really think this would be awesome my label and i was like heck yeah her voice sounds sick so they sent it to me she already did it the female voice with your voice is cool because you do have like a raspy voice yeah so then hearing an adele would like a clean. The female voice with your voice is cool because you do have like a raspy voice. Yeah. So then hearing an Adele would like. Like a clean,

like kind of like, clean cut voice is really sick. Who were your inspirations for music? Capaldi, Shawn Mendes. I love Mendes. Oh my God, he's so nice too.

Shawn Mendes is my favorite person. And you met him. So sweet. I love that. So sweet. We need two heroes. No, it was cool.

I saw him at Coachella. He was with, he was like drunk with Camila and I was like I have to go say hi because he's the reason why I wanted to do music in the first place seeing him blow up from Vine I was like I have to go say hi to him

so I go up to him and him and Camila drunk out of their minds stumbling everywhere and I'm like hey we have the same vocal coach we have the same vocal doctor I always hear about you so I just wanted to introduce myself and he was so sweet he literally stepped aside he's like hi I'm Sean I'm like hey I'm Alex he's like and he held a conversation with me the next day I'm at vocal lessons and I walk out and

he's like oh I have another appointment I'm like oh cool I walk out Sean Mendez is at the door and I go hey not think he's gonna remember me because um he was drunk and he goes alex i'm like no wow so sick and so i was getting a nose surgery uh that week because i have a deviated septum and um i was like i was like you know he got that surgery i was like how was it and he sat with me for like 15 20 minutes just talking to me about it because i was terrified and he was like don't be scared you got this he was so sweet my God. When you meet people like that, that you've, like, idolized and they're, like, so nice. You're like, oh, man. So nice.

Him and Teddy Swims. Such nice people. Really? What was your encounter like with him? I played a fest. Not festival. I played, like, a radio show with him. He was the headliner.

I had played right before him. And he invited me up to his, like, green room or whatever. We hung out. He was so sweet. Gave me the time of day. He didn't have to do that. He was really cool. And it's cool because, too, musician to musician, you think there might be competition, right?

You're younger. You're this. And they might be like, I don't know about this person. But the fact that they're so welcoming and giving advice. Well, I've had plenty of times where I've been egoed. That just happens a lot. Even influencers will ego me. It happens a lot.

With influencers? Yeah. Oh, my God. What's the scenario? You don't have to say who, but what's the scenario? Oh, God. I was? Like what's the scenario? You don't have to say who, but like what's the scenario? Oh God. I was at Erewhon and I was like, oh, you're blank. And they look at me and they go, yep.

And I was like, I was like, I love your work. And they just looked at me and looked back and I was like, damn. An influencer or a celebrity? I would say like it's both. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But.

Oh my God. That would like crush me. Oh my God. That would like crush me. Oh my God. Because even if they didn't know who you were. I was in front of my wife and friends when that happened. And they're always like, so they, in our business, she's famous people all the time. Yeah. Especially if you go to like that Air One right there.

Love that one. So I make it an effort because like I bet if anyone came up to me, I don't care if you're an influencer or whatever, I would like, I love it when people come up to me. Again, people pleaser. But it makes me so happy and I always like to like make them feel special because it makes me feel special. And I think it's just like when I meet other people, I'm like, you know what? I don't care if I have more followers than this person.

I don't care about anything. I think their work is sick. And so I always want to go up and tell them that I know them and that I love it. Because like when people come up to me and like whether I like Logan Paul, like I grew up watching Logan. And when Logan's like, do I love your vlogs? That makes me feel so crazy. So like hopefully I can give someone else that, right?

Yeah, for sure. And it's like whether or not they like know who I am, I think it just would feel good. And every time my friends like, don't do it. You're going to embarrass yourself. And I go and do it. And I embarrass the out of myself. Do you get embarrassed my god because i'm very much like hey i love your work and whether they know me or not they're just like oh thanks and i'm like i'm like let's have a conversation i want to meet you oh yeah yeah but like again it's like it's so like i can't expect

them to stop what they're doing no i think that's why i don't go up to people i'm so parasocial with people that i would want them to be my friend and if they they don't want to be my friend, then I'm like – I want to be everyone's friend. Yeah. I'm like, please be my friend. Yeah. I need friends. And then when they don't want to be – I met Britney Spears at a meet and greet and

I was like so sad. She only like spent a second with me. And I was like, well, it makes sense. She's meeting thousands of people. She probably doesn't care. So sad. But my parasocialness would be like, I want to be best friends. Right?

But sometimes it happens. Like Shawn Mendes obviously was very like – I know. Such a sweetheart. Yeah. It's always good when you can what's cool is like me and a lot of my friends are kind of like who all do music or in a spot right now where like it's looking pretty good like um Benson Boone is doing amazing I love Benson okay and David Kushner is doing amazing it's like it's cool because like now it's like oh hey like we're all doing somewhat okay and

everyone's blowing up and seeing it and like yeah i think there's like enough to go around for everybody right there's all the audience and fan bases if you weren't doing this what would you be doing i really wanted to be a cop really wow like fbi oh wait are you like good at like investigating and i think so i don't know i just i'm a cover and i watch like all these like shows and I'm like, damn, that would have been so, I want to go on a ride along really badly. Really? Yeah. I had a cop at one of my shows and I talked about that at one point. Cause I, I, in between songs, I, I'm a yapper. Like I, I bet I've been talking for,

I don't even know how long I've been talking for. I love talking. Yeah. And, uh. Which I didn't know about you. Really? You don't come across that way, but yes. I'm a big yapper. I will talk forever. I love that.

Anyway, yeah, so I was talking about how I wanted to be a cop and there was a cop in the audience. So next time I'm in Tampa, someone's going to take me on a ride along. Oh my gosh. Tampa would be wild because I just think Florida in general is wild. Oh my God. You always hear about the Florida man doing something. For sure.

What do they say? Type your birthday in with Florida man and something crazy happened on your birthday like in the news, which is like wild. Do you like the fame aspect of it? You said you like when people come up to you. Love. Okay. I don't care.

Invade my entire privacy. I do not give a fuck. Wow. I love that. I love it. Well, I signed up for it. And I get it. People who didn't, like there's some people who just post music and they're kind of just

like, oh, I just want to make music off, which I'm very similar. Like I don't want to get caught in drama. But I love it. Love it when people like like I can't say that because people will start doing more and my roommates will hate it but I like it when people find out where I live it's cool like it's sick I very unpopular opinion I don't mind it I love meeting people it's cool because I make such personal and people like it and when they like it I want to know them you know what I'm saying they feel the connection so when people come up to me i i'm obsessed with i've never said no to taking a photo i've never said like i don't give a i'm eating so many people i've watched so many

people like i watch a lot of people go like oh after i eat i don't give a interrupt my dinner do whatever you want it's fun i will hop out of my car at a red light to take a picture oh my god that you are uniquely you and this well i've, I've always wanted this. I've wanted this since I was a kid. And it's like, now that I have it, I want to appreciate every part of it. I mean, that's amazing. I think that's why you keep getting it, right? Like I always believe like if you're thankful, more things come for you to be thankful for. And I feel like you're just getting it time sent.

I think you're very, I think the only other person like that is Michael Jackson. Like I used to go up to his house when I was like 10 and just like wait outside. Really? And he like invited us in. Yeah, he said, do you guys want to come in? And it was like me and my dad. And we would just stand out there for like 10 hours a day every day like waiting to see him and then yeah he's like i used to do that at the hype house people would come and wait outside our house and i would let them in invite them in yeah i did that you and

michael jackson might be the only people crazy enough it's so fun are you kidding if i was a fan of so many people yeah and if i went like if i went to their house and they invited me into their house oh my god i wanted their house, oh my God. I wanted to be a part of Team 10. I wanted to be a part of all these things. I would send applications in.

What? To Team 10? Yeah. What were you? I was like, I'll be a stuntman. I skateboard. I surf.

I flip. I'm so cool. You want to be my friend? Did you ever get a reply? No. And then later on when you met Jake, did you ever tell him,

like, hey, I applied? No, I don't think he knew that. Really? Yeah, I didn't want to tell him that. Why?

I think that's so cute. I told Logan I was a big fan of him. But Jake, I don't know. Jake scares me sometimes. Oh, really? Yeah. Is he older? I don't know his age.

I guess he's older. Way older. No, he's older than Logan. Oh, yeah. He's 27, 28? Yeah, I mean, they really have become mainstream. They really did so well for themselves. They're so sweet.

Yeah, I've always said that too. I love Logan. Logan's very nice to me. I think Logan's, Jake's always been really have become mainstream. They really did so well for themselves. They're so sweet. Yeah, I've always said that, too. I love Logan. Logan's very nice to me. I think Logan's, Jake's always been really nice to me, too. I don't know, like, his persona, but. Logan's always made time for me. Like, when I was, Logan, I wouldn't have half the things if I didn't have Logan. Logan, I would go to his house, and he would give me so much advice.

When the David stuff was happening, he was like, dude, like, this is me. I'm trying to, like, navigate this. I'm not trying to do this. And he would, like, walk me through everything. He was just very sweet. Wow. He did not have to give me a lot of the, like, he gave me a lot of confidence and stuff. Did it bother you when people would compare you? I didn't mind. I thought it was very flattering. I think it was when people would accuse me of stuff. Cause like genuinely, I didn't believe that. Like I was like, I'm just being me,

but I think it's like, I compare it to like in songwriting when I'm humming a melody, I'm like, Oh my God, I just came up with this melody and I'll go pitch it to the writers I work with. And they're like, dude, that's like another song. And I think it's just really easy to like get influenced by the things, especially when I'm growing up and I'm an impressionable kid who is homeless. Like I wanted to be David so badly. Yeah. So I don't know. But it's really cool.

Ever since I stopped, I kind of like there's still parts of me that I think like I grew up watching that and that's how I am. And I don't know. But it's really cool because ever since I stopped, I kind of like – there's still parts of me that I think like I grew up watching that and that's how I am. And I don't know. Yeah. Do you miss the vlogs? No. No? Why? It's too stressful to –

Well, you have to think I was working with my friends. So like it was something where it was really difficult because especially when my friends like – I helped them build YouTube channels and all this stuff. And at a certain point, I felt like I was not their friend and more that their father or like kind of like trying to get them to work and do all these things. And I was like, I don't want that. Yeah. And also like I feel like there was a certain type of ego when you were in my blog and like, you know, you felt as if like so many people just like kind of used it against me. Yeah. Yeah. Where they're like, we should be getting paid or something like that.

Well, I didn't mind that. I would pay for everyone's rent. I would do everything. That's true. That's wild. That's more than David did. I think it was more of like, no, it was just more of like, you know, when I would have a disagreement as a friend, I would hope that it was with you as a friend. But then they'd be like, you need me for this. You need me for that. And I'm like, can we just be friends? Like, what is this? It gets tricky. It just gets tricky blur lines and stuff but and people would start arguing about it like my friends would argue with each other being like oh I'm in the vlogs more than you are because I'm funnier and it's like

what are you doing yeah I think that all oh my god you have a bedazzled Stanley yes do you want one we have we sell these well I'm gonna give you one but we sell these over would want one of those so badly oh my god a brand new one all thever would use that all the time. Oh my God. Absolutely. And she has to come on. Culver, if you're out there, I love you. I was the original stand for you. Please come on. She was literally going to come too.

And I was just like, yeah. She's like, well, she, would she want me there? I was like, yes, dude. No. She's like, I don't want to invite myself there. Oh my God. No, I just, I would have, I would have assumed. I was like, oh my gosh, that's why you had two chairs set up.

We're like, I'm sure he's going to bring Culver too. So we saved, we saved you a seat. Oh, that's good. She'll, I i'll she'll come on next week okay yeah i would love i love love of her and i love all you guys together i love yeah the vlogs is so interesting i think i just become like addicted to social media like i just i love filming myself like my main channel gets no views but i just love talking to a camera and i just didn't know if you missed that but you're like i'm good i I'm good. I saw your Nora Smith type stuff. I love her. Oh, so good.

She's my favorite TikToker. I love her. And there's another couple we follow in Canada that also do that kind of, what's, who's your favorite TikToker? Like what's your for you page? I'm obsessed with Rustin. You know, that little kid. No, who's Rustin?

Her name's Addie and her son is Rustin and he's like a, uh, this adorable two year old and I, it's, her name'sy mckinnon or addy something and it's pretty much like it's the most adorable two-year-old kid i've ever seen in my entire and what's he do he's just funny like it's just like it's like here like if you look him up like you'll you'll be like oh my god that is a cute kid i know the kids on tiktok are so cute it's such a hard balance like i always think my daughter is so cute but it's like do i want to post her because it's like oh i don't know like she's so precious and so pure i don't want anyone to be mean because imagine like someone leaves one mean comment about your kid which they've done there was one of my

daughter with her eyes right open like she has this and this they start diagnosing her with that and this is like oh yeah and she's like two months old and it's like oh man but they do such cute stuff and then it's like the internet can just ruin it yeah i mean i just always think everyone has their own opinion oh my god but literally just being like your daughter has special needs i'm like why are people so mean? That's crazy. Yeah, because what if she did? And like, it doesn't like, what?

But some of these people just need to be raised better, I think. I think that's it. But TikTok has really just given people so much accessibility and can say whatever and no one gets held accountable. And would you ever do, would you ever put your kids online? I got that question this morning, actually. Really? Yeah.

One of my friends asked me. I don't know. Yeah. I feel like I'm going to be a very, I want to be a girl dad. And I think I'd be very protective of my daughter. I love that. We have four dogs and I only have one girl. And that girl is my entire world. I call her princess and I give her all the attention.

You'd be a great girl dad. I think so. But I don't know. I don't know how to, I think I would want to film moments with her and I think it would be cool to share those moments. Yeah. I just think there's a lot of creepy people in the world. I know. It's such a balance because I'm just torn both ways.

Sometimes I post or sometimes I'm like, I don't know. There's creepy people. But also like there's creepy people in the real world too, you know. And like I chose to put my life on the internet. I don't know if I – not agree. But I don't know if I'd want my kid not to be able to choose whether or not their life is on the internet does that make sense

because I get made fun of all the time like I said earlier people make fun of my pink pony club video like even though you liked it which is wild

I saw only nice comments some people are like oh you sound like and I'm like that's totally fine to you I sound like to me I hate it I sound like

to me I loved it I hate listening to my own voice but that's the thing like if I think this so many other people will probably think it and I employ you to think. I hate listening to my own voice. But that's the thing. Like if I think this, so many other people will probably think it. And I employ you to think that way.

The thing is, is like I'm okay with it. And I'm putting myself in that position for them to judge me. I don't know if I want my kid to get judged. Yeah, I know. It's a tough one. And then also too, like regular people just get to share their kids and like nothing to it. But it's because people follow you. It's like, but I want to share my kids too.

Like, yeah, it's definitely hard. I'm going to be so proud of my kid. Like I want to like share the accomplishments and be able to show that. I don't know. I'm going to feel it out and kind of just decide whether or not. I'll probably try it. Yeah. Depending on how the comments are and everything,

I'll probably figure out whether or not I want to keep doing it. Right. It's a day-by-day thing. Yeah. Especially when they get older and they can talk, then I'm like, maybe I won't. Also, my kid might not want to be a it. Right. It's a day-by-day thing. Yeah. Especially when they get older and they can talk, then I'm like, maybe I won't. Also, my kid might not want to be a social media star. That's true.

Oh, they'll tell you. Malibu definitely is like, no, she doesn't want to be filmed or something like that. So I feel like they'll tell you. That's amazing. I love kids. They're so, so cool. I think he'll be an amazing dad.

I think it'll be, cover will be an amazing mom. I can't wait for the content. Right. Pregnancy content. Because your views, it's really amazing. Do you ever get, I mean, your views are still like skyrocketing, but do you ever get like, do you follow them? Like if they're lower one day, are you like, oh man, I'm bummed about it?

Or do you just not care about it? I don't really give a shit. Yeah. I also have like five different accounts. You do. It pops up and I'm like, wait, I thought I was following you. And I'm like, oh, that's more in songs. I'm like, oh, okay.

I don't know. I think it's like. The views, just like if it bothers you, affects you, if you care. Not really. I think TikTok right like the views just like if it bothers you, affects you, if you care. Not really. I think TikTok right now is really weird. Like they do algorithm changes and I can tell when I'm like, okay, that's like if you look at my account, it's like 6 million, 5 million, 7 million, 200,000. I'm like – Yeah.

But then like I blink and like two days later, it's got a million. So like I don't care. It is crazy. Yeah. Both of you guys have been able to sustain such high views like in the millions. And I always wonder, do they delete the ones that don't do well or are they just – It just depends. If it does really does really really bad i'll probably delete it i do too and people like oh no i keep everything up i'm like not if it has like 8 000 because you

said sometimes it's just glitchy and sometimes like 8 000 views i'm like what i've noticed though if when i delete like so if i wait a day and like which is just this is probably boring to so many people but when i wait a day and like let's say there's a video that it's 6 million 500k and then a million or not 500k if 6 million, 50K, a million. Yeah. When I delete the 50K, all the other videos do better. Interesting. I wonder why that is.

I don't know. Just to set something up. I think the algorithm looks at your last six videos and then determines how those did and then shows it to the appropriate amount of people after. Interesting. Yeah, they switch it up too based on what they pay because now people do over a minute videos. I've never done that.

Which is so, I guess you're just promoting your music basically most of yours. I've never made a video longer than a minute. Wait, really? So are you just like not making money off like the creator fund or anything? I don't make any money on TikTok. I don't do brand deals either. All my money is music and Snapchat. Okay, Snapchat.

Everyone is making so much money on there. I'm banned from Snapchat so I don't know. Really? I've been on Snapchat when they first started doing the money thing. Wow. So you were in. I think that's the key is getting on there. And music too. To make money on music, I think you and Tana are the only influencers who make money off music.

Yeah. I mean, I've been really lucky. I got a really good record label deal. I know. My music's doing pretty good right now, which is very, very nice. I'm not getting dropped anytime soon, I don't think. Just looking for validation over there. And you got budget for those videos. You're doing the underwater and all that stuff like that. They told me the budget on that video. Wow. I was like, holy shit.

Just give it to me. Yeah. I need it. The budgets, I know when we self-funded every music video I've done. So I self-funded most of mine. How much? And they're like $50,000 to $100,000. So when I was doing them myself, they were about $40,000.

I remember the first three, when I first started my career I was independent I paid $40,000 to $50,000 per music video and I never made the money back no never it was just something like I just care about music growing up I loved music videos

and so like I feel like people don't do them the same anymore no what was your first music video? One More I Love You and what was the theme of that? all of my music videos

have been true to like what they are besides the last recent ones but like One More I Love You is about my dad passing away. So I showed the story of how he passed away. And you hired actors for it. I haven't seen that one.

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Yeah, you got to watch it. The first three are like movies, kind of in their own way. So is this the first music video where you're starring it the first three are like movies kind of in like their own way so so is this the first music video where you're starring in the troubled waters i've always starred in them but i mean like acting because you're never usually like the love interest um no i i did remember happy which was when my mom passed away and i acted in that one um okay so you do the acting still you were not too sure about your acting with like theater but but with music videos. It's hard.

It's just because I'm so like, I'm the type of guy, I want to kill it right away. So if I don't kill it, I think it's cringe. Oh, no. So I get really in my head. Do you watch back your old music videos though? And are you like proud? Are you like, those are actually really good? Maybe.

I don't know. I like right after, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't rewatched mine. I haven't rewatched mine yet. I love it. I think they're good.

You put so much money and like effort and everything. You're just like, oh, you know, I'm glad I did it. I. I haven't rewatched mine. I haven't rewatched mine yet. I love it. I think they're good. You put so much money and effort and everything. You're just like, oh, I'm glad I did it. I spent over $10 million on music videos. And I rewatched them. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to make sure. Yeah, wild.

But I've done like 60, self-funded. And I'm like, yeah. Oh, my fuck. Yeah. I also didn't buy a house either until I was like 32. I was very much like you. I had really bad credit. I even had bad credit when I bought this house. We did it on income because I had the worst credit ever.

But getting it fixed, yeah. OK, budget. OK, budget. Well, that was a whole other thing. But yeah, I used to blow all my money. I was like, whatever. It's the experience. And music videos were everything.

That's how I was. I was like, you know, I'm 20, 21. I'm never going to be in this position again where I'm this young and have this money. So I'm going to enjoy it. And I'm like, if I'm going to go broke, now is the time before I have kids. I'd rather not go broke when I have a wife and kids and a mortgage to pay. It's different. But also now you have someone funding and you're getting paid for your music and I think you're in a win-win situation because that's...

I'm in a great situation also because my wife, my wife makes more money than I do. Oh, wow. I know. Yeah. She's the breadwinner. So it's really nice. Is she taking brand deals? I guess I have to have her on and ask her, but yeah, that's... Wow. She's great. She's the breadwinner and I love it so much because I get to pursue my career without having a worry, I guess. Feel the pressure anyways.

That's amazing. Yeah, so it's really, really nice. And now that we're married, it's combined income, so. I love that. Yeah. Do you do one bank account? No. No, we have a bank account where we put money into, and that'll pay the mortgage and stuff.

Okay, yeah, we do the same thing. We keep it separate. We have to, also because you never know about banks. We have separate banks because we're like, what if one goes under or flops? You know what I mean? I don't know. Oh, I've never thought of that.

We have the same bank. Oh, okay. Anyways, I know it's a personal question, but I always wonder that when people get married. I told you, I'm an open book. You can ask me my social security number. I'll give you the first five. Okay, don't give your social out.

And I really love that about you. I just think it's so cool because, again, I feel like online on TikTok, you just see the musician's side of you. So seeing all this. That's why I like podcasts. I just think it's so cool because, again, I feel like online on TikTok, you just see the musician side of you. So seeing all this. That's why I like podcasts. I feel like it's like you're trapped. You have to listen to me talk about myself.

Where like TikTok, you can like just doom scroll, I guess. Yeah. Well, I love it because that's why I saw you did a podcast. Maybe it was recent or maybe I just saw a clip where you're talking and you're talking about like getting shot. And I was like, wait, what? Like I feel like that's a story that so many people and I know we're coming out. Oh, it stopped. We're coming up on the two hour mark but I um and I was like wait what because he's like you look at you my photographer I was telling him he didn't you

know he wasn't familiar he's not on TikTok and he's a lot older but he just heard what I was saying I was like yeah he's been shot he's been he's like wait who is this person like what's crazy is when you hear my story a lot of people think I make it up which is awesome it seems yeah unreal like an x-ray that shows it um here's the thing. I'm California shot. If anyone from the South is hearing this, it was a 177. So some people classify that as like a BB in some way. It was shot out of an air rifle. Oh my gosh. So it went through my liver, up my, missed my heart by a millimeter and is stuck in my lung. It's still there. Yeah.

So I can't get an MRI. I wear this bracelet because if I ever go unconscious and a paramedic grabs me, they can't, it tells like they can scan this because an MRI is a giant magnet. So if I go into an MRI machine, it'll rip out of me. Oh my God. Like, what does that mean? Like you will die. Yeah.

Yeah. I'll die on instant. Oh my gosh, Alex. This is crazy like your life is also very precious like it's always like at risk like that's yeah yeah i guess what about going through the machines at the security well so it's lead so it won't it won't set off one of those it's not metal but they see it when they go oh my gosh i guess lead is a type of metal i guess i actually have no idea but you got married by the person who shot me yeah so the guy who

officiated my wedding is the person who shot me. I mean, you're very forgiving. I mean, I know it was like, was it an accident? Were you like running away or something? Okay, well, it wasn't an accident, but it was an accident. His son's loaded the gun and he didn't know. And we were filming the vlogs at the time. Oh, no.

And he was like, oh, it'll be funny, run. And I was like, oh, my God, he's going to shoot me. So I ran. And he shot me from probably 50, 100 yards away and still went through and everything. Good shot. Was it on camera? On camera. You didn't post it, though.

I deleted it right after. What? Someone was like, don't post this? I didn't because I went to the hospital with a GSW. So if I – the cops have to investigate. And so we made up a story. It's been long enough now I can say it, but we made up a story that it was Ricochet. Yeah. And he paid my hospital bills, obviously. And he gave me the car that I slept in. Oh, wow. Oh my God. So you're like, okay.

And he also took care of Cobra and I when we were homeless. So like, it was something where like, you know, he made a mistake. He knew that. And he was like a father and I when we were homeless. So it was something where he made a mistake. He knew that. And he was like a father figure to me for a while. So it was something really easy to forgive. I think it's a good story to put out there, though. It's kind of like you hear about that and some people don't survive, right? Like TikTokers who do that and they have a book in front of them and they get shot or

something like that. Crazy. Yeah. It's maybe a good story to not do that for social media. You know what I mean? I think, like you said, you know it's a mistake, but you don't know right away, right? It's just like, oh, it's fun. It's for the blogs, but damn, I'm glad you survived. Thanks. You have like nine lives. You have like a cat. Yeah. Let's hope I'm not really close to one yet.

No, no. I think you're amazing. I think you're resilient. And obviously you're here. Your story is so inspiring. Thank you. Holy rock on your finger. Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ, Moses. This is Moses. Yes. Look at me look bad here. Holy. Yeah. Well, we did, you know, you you got the wholesale diamond i don't know if you got yours like a tiffany's they're like twice the amount of money but if you go to like a wholesaler cover's grandma is a jeweler she made the ring oh okay so you probably got a good deal then i got it for free oh oh my i gotta

like learn your ways this is free too i was just, this is so cool. Is it like welded together? Yeah, diamonds all around and on top. That is such a cool, you wear it every day? Yeah. I love it. I love being married. I love showing the ring. I love all of it. I still get a little giddy when I say my wife.

Yeah, it's so cool, right? It's fun. It took you long enough though. Took me five years, six years? That's a long time. Because I feel like Cobra's been like ready to get married. She's been ready since we met. She wanted kids the day we met.

I love that. No, I think because we were so young and also the things that we went through and stuff, I think I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't just puppy love. Like I fell head over heels for this woman and I wanted to make sure I wasn't just so young that it was like, oh, like I have all these things happening in my life. I didn't want to make, like, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to have a child of divorce and stuff like that.

Yeah, of course. Make sure it's right. Yeah. So I just wanted to make sure everything. And there was just a moment where I was like, this is perfect. And so I started planning it. How long did it take you to plan the proposal? Wow.

I had it ready for like a year. I had it planned somewhere completely different in Colorado and that day it snowed three feet and so where I had planned to propose

it was three feet snowed in so if I went down on one knee she wouldn't have seen it so we practiced that so aimlessly

that day I knew I was proposing that day I got the flu that day so I'm sick as hell not knowing where I'm proposing I have the ring got the flu that day. So I'm sick as hell, not knowing where I'm proposing. I have the ring in my pocket. All my clothes were lost in the airport. So then all I had was sweatpants and a sweatshirt on. Oh my gosh. And, um,

you carried the ring with you though. Yeah. Thank God. And it fell out of my pocket a few times. It was really terrifying. Um, and I found this beautiful piece of snow that worked out perfect and dropped down on one knee and asked. And I said her full name, which was crazy. It's long, right? It's longer now that she has my last name. Oh, my God. That's right. How many syllables is it total, you think?

Cover, Ho, E, Bo, Make, Mac, Alani, Onelico, Kalani, Vincent, Ann, and Hughes. Oh, my God. Yeah. No, Hughes. Oh, Hughes is not your last name? Hughes is my last name. And Warren is? Warren's my middle name. Oh. Oh, my God. I got you. You did Hughes. Oh, Hughes is not your last name. Hughes is my last name. And Warren is? Warren's my middle name.

Oh, oh my God. Oh, I got you, you did it. Yeah, I got you. I know, I thought I knew every single thing about you. I got you. Before, she was like telling my entire life story to me. I was like, there's no way you know. September 18th, like I know everything.

Yeah, yeah. That was supposed to be my daughter's due date. And I was like, ooh, 18's our lucky number. And then she came on the 14th and I was like, oh man. No way. I really wanted the 18th, yeah. It's just a lucky number. 18th's a great day. Yeah, it means

like life. Like in Judaism, 18 is like Hayim is like life. Yeah, he proposed to me on the 18th. We wanted to get married on the 18th but it didn't work out. But 18 is a lucky number for sure. Oh, I love that. It's the best. It's like super, super lucky. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I love your proposal. I loved how it worked out. I love your love

story. I can't wait to see all your next chapters with Cobra and your tour. Are you going to be in LA? I want to see your show. Yeah, come to my LA show. Do you know where you're playing? Troubadour. You should come. Iconic. Can we get them on the list? Yeah, I would love to. That would be so fun. I am such a fan, Alex.

I appreciate you being here. Thanks for having me. I hope I get to see you soon and good luck with everything. See you in October. Yeah! Go check out Alex Ward. Oh, and your new album, which we didn't talk about. You're just finishing now, but it's coming. Yeah. So working on a new album.

I just finished it. So it'll come out. I don't know when it's coming out. Probably October, but we're announcing it soon. Oh my gosh. If we don't announce it, this is an exclusive. I'll make sure to remember that. But he said to put it in.

No, no, no. Put it in regardless. I don't care. New album. I'm so excited for it. Thank you. And check them out all over TikTok. But he said to put it in. No, no, no. They put it in regardless. I don't care. New album. I'm so excited for it. Thank you. And check him out all over TikTok. Use the sound.

Share the sound. It's beautiful. Tag Adele. Tag Adele. And we want to see it happen. And Greatest Showman manifesting all of that. I really truly feel this is a manifestation chair. Whatever you say in it comes true.

So I'm excited to see it. I want a million dollars and a Ferrari. Yeah. Boom. Done. Happened. Thanks for being so open and honest. And I feel like you really are the most inspirational person I've met.

You're so sweet. Thank you. Check out Alex Warren everywhere. Thank you so much. See you next time.