Just Trish - BROOKE SCHOFIELD returns to CANCELLED Podcast + SLOAN Spills MAJOR TEA | Just Trish Ep 110

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

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When's the last time you talked to Jeffree? Um... Like... Like any communication. Um... Also, what do you think of HRH Collection? Because people like... HRH?

Yeah. Everyone always asks me about this. She was on my podcast, she was like, I don't know why Trish is being a b****. But she was like, I love her. Ah, the drama stars. That's just the fish and all the gossips Filthy, rich, pretty, and pink

Hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks She's just Trish Hey guys, welcome back to the Just Trish Podcast I feel like today's Hot Topics is going to be wild. There's a lot of energy in this room. There's a lot of drama energy in this room. And I'm so excited. Okay, you guys, you know Oscar's on vacation.

So we have our co-host today, Sloane. Hi, guys. Just one name artist. Sloane, yeah. I love that. But I add the hooks because, you know, Sloane's like a toilet brand. Every time I go into the bathroom and I see a waterless urinal, it says Sloan on it. Wait, really?

That's iconic. Or the automatic sinks. You know the automatic sinks in the bathroom? They say Sloan on it. Yeah. So we add the hooks. Oh, really? Yeah.

Okay. Is that your real name? But I know you have a first name, middle name. No, my name is Michael Sloan Hooks, but I've only gone by my middle name. So like in the fifth grade, I learned my name was Michael because they're like, I was doing a standardized test and they're like, fill out your Scantron. I'm like, who's Michael Hooks? Like they're pre-printed because like fifth grade

you know and then you switch to Sloan no it was always Sloan the middle you went by the middle name always middle name like I was born like with the intention

of going by my middle name so like when I actually became like 10 years old I was like wait my name's Michael oh my god how weird yeah they should I know people always say that

like with like weird baby names like oh that should be a middle name but I'm like but then we're gonna call him that anyways you should just call him by the first name

I agree Sloan fits you for sure i agree michael was like when i worked in the government i went by michael and i felt like hannah montana oh okay so you had your like day job and then you're like and i was like yeah they won't find sloan on the internet like right now it's all but your channel's just sloan yeah it's just sloan yeah yeah i like it and we met we have history we met in 2019 2019 on your tour in philly i drove three hours from dc all alone i was so scared too because i'm not a driver like more than 20 minutes i like start sweating i'm

like spinning wow i went out there and i met you and your mom and you're both i remember your mom was like you're so strong i was like yes she was so great that would be her for sure i know i'm surprised we're not seeing i feel like online you're always just like muscles and body and today we're very demure yeah you know i'm gonna be respectful yeah okay I like it you want to come out here like a we ho gay all like buffed up like oh I want to live for that though you know me I like love a good like gay moment you know what I mean but I like it we're giving straight today and I like it too I like gay and straight all of it um wait I want to shout out just before we get started I just want to like honor to Oscar I hope you're living your like Hawaii fantasy

having the break you need to have because I mean he kills on the show you guys are so impressive like as somebody's watching forever went on went to your tour in like 2019 like I was like you know working the government didn't make a lot of money like you know they don't pay enough over there but I just like I really made it work and I was like I'm gonna go do this and um I just watching her growth it's like it's so adm. And like Oscar is such like a crucial part of this podcast. King, yeah. King. So like just before we get started, like let's not compare Sloane to Oscar.

I can never compare. We're not having a Paige, Brooke, Tana moment here. I don't want to be spiraling in the comments tomorrow. I'm like I am not trying to compare. This is like very out of my element. So I'm just excited to like be here. Yeah. I'm just not going to be nervous.

I'm just like enjoying it. It's so much talking and chaos already. We also have Spilsash here, which I know you guys, you're friends with everyone. So you came with Alexa Nichols, right? Nicholas, yes. Nicholas, I see Nichols. And she even is like, no, everyone says it. And then, so you came with her there.

And then now, Christy from Spilsash is literally right behind you. And I'm so nervous and distracted. I was like, oh my gosh, which I'm so excited. Because both of you guys, I say you're on it. Not only are you on it, but you're getting the views. We were saying some other drama channels, you know, they kind of just fall off.

I was scared of drama channels back in the day. Oh my God. Like I was so scared of certain ones that they ever talked about me. And I was like, wow, they hold all the power. And then to see them now, it's fine. Look, my main channel gets 10,000 views. Like I'm not saying a flop is a bad thing.

I'm a flop and I still post. It doesn't matter. But I'm saying like you guys actually like crush the drama game. I was looking, I was like, wow saying like you guys actually like crushed the drama game. I was looking. I was like, wow. And you guys have very different topics too. You have very different topics.

I know. Which is so – how that niche. Like how did you get in? Like you're talking about like Kanye and stuff and getting like a ton of views. Like what is it? And, you know, it still surprises me. But I started off really covering the Free Britney movement back in 2019. Oh, yeah.

Sam lefty, her old manager one day sent me $100 on PayPal with his phone number, said, call me. So I called him. We had a two and a half hour phone call. I recorded it all. And, well, he was sniffing the entire time, which made me think that he was on something because he kept rambling and rambling about this family.

And while, like, nonetheless, it was a lot of, like, gibberish, he did give me, like, some really, like, hardcore tea, some emails and things I started releasing back in 2019. So I started getting cease and desist letters and views and like traction with the Free Britney movement. They go hand in hand, yeah. Yeah. So I started covering that and then I started covering the Dan Schneider Nickelodeon stuff, which is why I'm friends with Alexa Nicholas. Because she was like, I was one of the first people to really talk about it.

Like the Drake Bell thing, I exposed three years before it became public information. How did you know about it through this guy, through this contact? Because his mom's an alcoholic on Facebook and messaging people and telling all... Oh, no. You know, I'm not proud of, like... It's always the moms. I know.

I know. It's not like I'm messaging his mom. Like, God, I draw a line when it comes to covering topics that will not, you know, get personal or things that are unreported. But, like, essentially, she was drunkenly messaging his stans. And, like, you know how stan culture gets. So, like, messaging the mom of Drake.

And then she reveals this. So there was a while where, like, Drake and i were in communications like i think in 2021 um just about like he wanted to tell his story but he didn't have the avenue yet really so did he you message him or he messaged you for he messaged me a book and it went off on me him and his wife just like oh they're gonna like sue me and they first tried to like actually manipulate me and be like we're gonna tell you something you'll get so many views on like you'll be the most views ever you just need to sit down with like our lawyers in Virginia because I was in Virginia still working in the government like not even planning on doing YouTube full-time ever just more like trying to stand up for like the child stars exposing Dan Schneider this bigger picture so he reached out

to me I just ignored it and I just kept ignoring it and then I mean we've seen what happened since then so oh my that was like my introduction to covering like kind of so like classic celebrity because you're talking about these drama channels that like have been dead for a couple years because they're still talking about the same drama and the same people like yeah I am not scared to talk about any celebrity old or new and if it like interests me and if it interests my audience I love my audience they send me so many emails every day. Video ideas. We're like, how do you have video ideas? I have, like, 30 right now. I see.

So they're kind of messaging you what they want. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Interesting. So they're giving you, like, the leads. And how do you get leads now on, like, things? Because you really do know so much information that, like, is not out there. And I'm like, how do you even know all this?

Like, they're just messaging you. Well, building the rapport with people, too. Like, I definitely have gotten, like, some influencer celebrity type friends. And then, like, meeting with different networks, like, E! News, entertainment. Yeah. Like, building that, like, kind of where they're getting their information like back channel wise. But then also building myself up as an influencer to like be present at these events and to be like friends with these people. So like Harvey Levin is not the best example as like a person like don't like his morality, but he's got like that goal kind of relationship in Hollywood where like. Oh, the TMZ guy.

So he's got like the Kardashians texting him, but he's also reporting reporting on them so that like sweet side and I feel like I've gotten there how is it okay that is true okay so I I'm so careful because there's certain like drama channels that I really like but it is hard to like not message them and not make it come across like manipulative right like when someone makes a video in my defense I always want to be like thank you but then I never wanted to be like well she was manipulating me by thing because I would get in so much trouble with like drama channels because I was like friends with or friendly you know and have them like come to my house but then they would be to be like, well, she was manipulating me by thing. Cause I would get in so much trouble with like drama channels. Cause I was like friends with, or friendly, you know,

and have them like come to my house, but then they would be like, oh, she's manipulative. She's this. And I'm just like, ah, so then I got scared altogether to talk to drama channels.

But once in a while I will message like, I love Paige Christie. So I'll like be like, thanks for defending me or something, but I never wanted to come across like manipulative. Like I'm trying to, you know, and like,

how do you find that balance? Especially like Harvey, right? The Kardashians are coming to you, but you also have to report them. Like, how do you find the balance then? And honestly, I think it comes down to coming to you, but you also have to report them. How do you find the balance then? And honestly, I think it comes down to the person.

I think what is thriving now in social media is authenticity, genuineness. Every stage I've gone through in my YouTube career, my audience has followed me. The cease and desist, the threatening, the me sitting there crying, trying to figure out what do I do with Bob Saget threatening me? And I'm scared. I can't go against this. I got that too. I got a lawsuit from Bob Saget yeah rest in peace but yeah it probably like I actually made

this video that went viral and it started the trend of them all talking about the Ashley it was around that same time though I literally I think I like and I don't want to ever take like account like you know I'm not going to own it because that's like I'm owning the whole like defamation lawsuit but yeah I've never done I've never posted a video where I posted it one day got a million views in a day and then like i was watching tiktoks of people talking about the same thing but like referencing my video like i just saw this video and then that's what it was was it about his like stand-up about yeah all that all the jokes the swallowings yeah it was wild and i just all i did was do a tiktok in like response to it and they're like

we're gonna set we're like suing you and i was like what like i was like so i was like i didn't even start the story you know because it usually comes from that like yeah well and that's the thing too is like I never go in like trying to cancel someone trying to like maybe expose like the wrong side of things but like even that video it wasn't me like being like oh I'm coming after Bob Saget I'm like you know after I filmed that video I was on to the next like I pretty much forgot about it until I posted it and then some people were like wait holy this is disgusting we can all agree on it and it built traction yeah I know that seems how it happens too and it's like i guess you never know right people are like okay when does it become

like cancellation or just like what people say themselves though it's like you can't cancel people over what they say themselves you know what i mean have you ever had someone come to you and like fed you information like an influencer about like another influencer like being like oh do a hate video on this person or anything like that uh not you know i've had some people especially i think when you advocate for people who are in like domestic violence situations it gets very like emotional and personal and like and you know you want to try to like report as a journalist in the way that you can't like I can't just take this person's word if it's not necessarily reported but I mean like Vicky um Brittany's old assistant like was

so manipulative to me on Instagram messaging me trying to figure out where I live trying to figure out like like what i do every single day like just weird yeah she had this assistant named vicky who was actually hired by her father and i recently like they were in the pool together she's been let go um they were at the pool like no and she i think you're thinking of a brunette she has blonde hair but she um essentially she was hired by the dad she worked there for like nine months but it was so weird to have her message me because it was right after i had this like person tried to attack me in west hollywood so she was like it was like oh did you send this person or like why are you checking in on my safety like trying to ask me questions about like how i operate so there's definitely people who come through and like even

sean kingston like when i made a video about him he's like you know that guy that's yeah i can't believe we like I was singing to that I was like 7th grade like it is wild right when you think about that okay so he messaged you but he DM'd me like

hey dog hit me up like Sean Kingston he just got arrested do you think it's not Rivera Sean Kingston got arrested with his mom recently for like

he had the eeny meeny miny moe that song for like a bunch of like scamming and I like exposed him

in a few different videos but my first video he like reached out to me and was like I know what these people are doing by trying to like scamming and I like exposed him in a few different videos but my first video he like reached out to me and it's like I know what these people are doing by trying to like reach out and say hey so I guess like

from your perspective I don't know how you operate because like if you do reach out you're gonna be right or wrong either way but so I wonder is there a right way to reach out because when people make bad videos

I never really reach out because I'm like okay they already hate me but it's like when someone makes a good video I want to be like thank you but then I'm like but then it's like they turn

you know drama channels we turn and they like they like you one day don't I'm like I but then it's like they turn, you know, drama channels be turning. They like you one day, don't. I don't know what to do in this situation. Well, I think also like the bad videos, like we can sometimes like agree, like the Bob Segg one, we can all agree it's bad. But like some of these drama channels, it's like, girl, like you could just tell they took one 10 second thing and just made a whole video about it. And that kind of goes to authenticity.

I think people like when I make my videos, I'm proud of like the stories I'm telling. I'm not going to sit here and talk about like we can all think James Charles is creepy. But do I really want to sit here and make 50 videos about I'm talking about the same damn thing? You know, I mean, not really. So I think that like the see like when you're beating a dead horse, people are just kind of like, really, that's all you've got. And for me, I've never held back when it comes to like the next celebrity or like someone who I think Oprah, she's scary. But, you know, right. But she could do a little on me.

She does. She does. That's quite like a legacy to leave. I'm scared. I'm scared to talk about certain people, Oprah, she's scary, but you know. Right. Wish she could do a little on me. You never know. If she does, that's quite like a legacy to leave, right? I'm scared. I'm scared to talk about certain people like Oprah, like for real, because I'm like,

I feel like she's so powerful. So you never get scared though talking about anybody. I get scared talking about Dr. Luke and sometimes Scooter Braun just because they're the ones that like Dr. Luke got my Instagram deleted one time

like a few years ago. Scooter Braun like has worked with YouTube like specifically to like have his team like go through the copyright like he like copyrighted my entire video which like has places where it's just my face so he will do like the dirty tactics and like i don't mess around with that don't come for us don't come for us i'm actually scared i'm like i we don't gossip on here and like talk about hot topics but i'm very like i don't know i'm guessing one of those people

everyone hates i like to be neutral because i'm just scared of everybody and everything you know what i mean i'm just like that's and everything. You know what I mean? I'm just like, that's why I can respect when you just like go for it. There's certain things where you're like, obviously this person's in the wrong. Everyone agrees, right? Yeah, everyone agrees. And it's like, but then there are certain things that I'm like, oh, I don't know. Sometimes I just like to keep it like light and cute.

But you go in for the hard ones. Are you getting like cease and desist letters? Have you gotten like a just Trish one? No, I think because we're really good at saying allegedly. And also I'm really good at being like, I know nothing. Like, I'm just dumb. Don't come for me. You guys are very, like you're, but you're also very factual. I think like the're really good at saying allegedly and also I'm really good at being like, I know nothing. Like, I'm just dumb. Don't come for me. You guys are very – but you're also very factual.

I think like the downfall of like drama channels – I was so obsessed with drama channels in like 2020, like 20, 21. But in like the worst way. I was like, oh, God. I was just like everything was – I think the downfall is when you start like making up stories, right? When the headlines would be like Trisha and Moses divorce. Trisha – you know, like something so crazy that it's like obviously not true. And I think then it becomes more like, okay,

people don't care as much and you lose that credibility whereas like you and Spill Such, I feel like you always have like the facts and you present it as such and it's not really so personal. You know what I mean? Like you don't take it

and so I can never be a drama channel. I take everything a little personal. Like when I see someone that I don't like or like I, I don't know, I have issue with, I'm always like,

oh, this is the time. You know, I'd get like personal about it but I think you're very good at stating the facts. I know what you mean because like if it's too personal too like if it actually riles me up like I can't talk about it if I'm actually genuinely disgusted by it like it reminds me of like the eight

passengers thing did you see like um that uh what's his name uh Chad Frank the like Frankie posted like that happy prison anniversary thing yes like back I started making videos about like in 2020 and they actually, I think it was my first cease and desist letter and that's how Christy and I know each other, Spill Sesh,

because we both, yeah, because we were, like, we're making the same content. But that was, like, hard content to make because she, like, literally was, like, harming kids,

like, physically harming them. We couldn't cover it. I was, like, really up, like, it's so upsetting. It's so hard. It makes me, like, disturbed. Like, those things I can't, like, there's a fine line

where it's just, like, ugh, it's a little bit too much the dark ones is like hard like p diddy all that stuff like where it gets like really dark i'm just like oh i don't know if i want to like get deep dive into this you know it's a lot that's why i try to like keep it cute but that's interesting i always wonder that so yeah i want to consider you a drama channel so much you really are kind of more news you just i don't know you tapped into something that like is not online that a lot of people like which is like cool like I look at your titles I'm like that's so interesting the only tea over here is trauma it's not it's not real tea we love a trauma we love a trauma tea is that what you said trauma yeah that's the only tea over here like that's why sometimes like there is I

understand the drama aspect like and I do cover some one of those but I definitely love like the advocacy like kind of like activism like kind of perspective yeah no I think that's and that's doing so good you know with like a big platform I think that's like amazing I, like kind of like activism, like kind of perspective. Yeah, no, I think that's, and that's doing so good, you know, with like a big platform. I think that's like amazing. I just don't know, like I'm not, I'm not, what's the word?

Articulative. I don't like articulate very well. You know what I mean? So like I would love to be that person, but also because of me and like my reputation, I feel like no one wants to hear from me. You know, I would love to advocate for people,

but they're just like, Trish, we hate you. Like half the people hate you, half the people love you. People just love you. So it's good. I'm glad you say I speak well too, because like I was, I'm spir spiraling and i was like looking at the

just trish thread i was like typing my name in to see like what people say about me on like and i've never used right like yesterday was my first time i was like calling her i was like don't do it honestly i'm really numb to the self like they really can't there's not too much they could say really how i'm not even numb i still cry i don't watch it i can't go on reddit well i came out at 14 i'm like 30 now and like I was probably one of the worst bullying cases like you could ever imagine like growing up especially like my high school was cow by high like I heard everything by the time I was you know 18 years old so like actually the social media stuff is like almost like I don't I guess it just doesn't eat me up like I would much rather like beating up if I had a personal fight with someone in my

real life but like this kind of stuff I feel pretty like proud of what I put out there and I don't actually use a script because people on reddit were saying that I use a script for everything I don't use any script at all that's the worst thing that's not bad if that's what they're saying no no they said worse but I was just like just let me just so you guys know I don't use a script oh that's that's a compliment if they think you're scripted that's actually kind of everything well it's like you see the the fifth take yeah that's pretty much why I heard you say something like out there you were like yeah i sometimes redo it over i cannot stand redoing things over and over like if the audio is not recording i literally like we're never we're not redoing it like we're just gonna keep moving

you can't like i know it's happened so many times when i go on other people's podcasts the audio doesn't record actually call her daddy the first like 20 minutes to record and i was just like i can't pretend it didn't happen we're gonna just resummit and keep going because it's just like so hard. But I'm so happy for all your success because it is crazy. We have the picture. We'll have to send it to Jimmy, our editor. We'll have the picture of us.

And it was the first show ever. I remember it was Anaheim. Maybe it was actually 2018, I think. I think it might have been 2018 because 2019 had a little spiral. I think 2018 was my first show. And it's so cool to see because you actually did the meet and greet too, which I thought was like so cool. Yeah.

And I have so many video clips. I probably have like 50 video clips of you like recording that day. Wow. Oh, my gosh. I mean, to like credit you, you're a big part of why I do YouTube now because just to see like a regular person film, it's like, oh, I can do that. Especially back then, like you're not like high editing. So it's like it doesn't have to be like a Mr. Beast production like to be a video. But yours is.

Yours is production. Thank you to the editors, girl. That's like above my career. Oh, so you have. Okay, so do you have a team too they do my research for me too wait really I sometimes do my own very swoop of you to have like I love it that makes sense okay because I was like you're so knowledgeable and I was like how do you know everything they're great I trained them like to do exactly like how I do it in like a manner so that's why I can like I usually like film a video if it's a 12 minute video it's like 20 minutes and that's it like I don't film for a long time so but you have a podcast too right I do it's

like essentially I started like interviewing people like I also what do you think of hrh collection because people like hrh everyone always asks me about this on my podcast she was like I don't know like Trish is being a but she's like but she's like I love her like that's just the way she speaks though you know like she's got a mouth like a sailor. Yeah, sure. Right, she's like a troll, right? Yeah, I interviewed her, like, Blair White, like, some of the controversy, Prez Hilton. I've actually had all of them,

except for H.R.H. on the podcast, and I was just recently made aware of her from your podcast, I think. I didn't know it was your podcast. Wait, that clip, it went, like, viral or something. I think so. FanDuel Casino's exclusive live dealer studio has your chance at the number one feeling, winning,

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Other side. You got tagged in so many times. You got tagged in that one clip. But she's a troll? Or is that real? She's just super conservative type. I think people get off on things that you just don't imagine

a pretty woman saying. Damn, that's coming out of her mouth. But you she has those thoughts you think she believes those thoughts yeah but she's a lot nicer like yeah so she followed me because one of my friends she's a tiktoker but she's not a big tiktoker but she for some reason like hh followed her right my friend's trans and then she hh saw that me and my friend went skiing and messaged me and said hey i saw that you're friends with whatever. He's so pretty or whatever he is. And she's a trans woman and very much like woman. Oh no.

Oh no. So she's like messaged me initially just misgendering my friend. Oh no. But of course I brought my friend to the shoot too. And like she was, you know, she didn't call her he then. So. I. Oh.

So that makes me though think she really thinks like that. You know what I mean? No. Yeah. The first message you send to me and you're like, your friend, he. See, I kind of hate that, like, a lot of people are like, you, I should. No, you should not. No, I'm telling you as someone who, like, has been there.

I asked her just because I need to ask her a damn question about, like, someone, you know. But don't go on. Don't do anything. Okay, thank you. I'm so confused. I'm like, are you friends with her? Are you not friends with her? No, no.

I'm like, I'm friendly with her. I'll text her. But, you know, she's one of those. I feel like the thing, too, is, like, how I do well on social media is, like, I'm real. And, like, I'll tell her, too you friends with her? Are you not friends with her? No, no. I'm like, I'm friendly with her. I'll text her. But, you know, she's one of those. I feel like the thing, too, is like how I do well on social media is like I'm real. And like I'll tell her, too, and call her. And like you're not going to say he now, huh? Yeah, that's pretty bad. That's one I'm like, okay, that's a definite no.

I mean, overall, I did never like the comparisons because they're like, you guys are the same. But it's like mine was truly not. Thank you. From the first day. And mine was like trolling back in the day and obviously didn't mean things I said. But you're like, nope, she means it. She says it when they're chatting. She DMs it.

No, it's like, yeah. Oh, yikes. That's a big yikes. Speaking of trans, guess who I just met at the bar the other day? Who? Gigi Gorgeous. For the first time? Talked to her for like an hour.

Yeah, talked to her for like an hour. She was at the same show you were at in Anaheim. She was my only friend that showed up at that show. No one else. I was at the Philly show. Oh, so that was 2019. 2019. But we were at, what did I see were what did you want to anaheim

i think i was at katie perry and that's where i saw gg wait we talked oh was it hard yeah yeah it was like 20 to see katie perry that night i mean it was like actually i think i bought two tickets for like the cheapest rate it was like 160 so a little bit more than like oh really but like it was like katie perry and like a small video you stand there then so many people are like no the gays don't want her anymore and i was was like, but I kind of live for it. Oh, Katie? No. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad to see that you were a part of it. I don't love the Dr. Luke collaboration. Right. And she's like, so my boyfriend like, I don't know, has had interactions with her too in the past. I see. She's just one of those people that like, if there's a group of gays standing

there, they're going to come and be like, hey gays. And it's like, you know. Wait, she says it to them? Yeah. Love that though. I think it's a millennial thing where we just want the gay her mind's a little old like you know she's just a little like dated she's just like trying to be cute it's me though that's so mean i think that's why i relate because i'm literally that person too i'm like hey gays i would be the same way was she nice to you she was actually so nice and i feel like even on the podcast i've said like you know not like i wasn't like a hater but i was never like a fan and I've said that on the podcast and I was like I don't know but then when I met her I actually like loved

her so much like she actually was so nice and so funny and was so sweet and I've been on other music videos like all American rejects where they could care less if you're there so she was like overly sweet overly nice and actually like became obsessed with her after that but people do she's getting the Vanguard Award at the VMAs next week and I was like maybe I could present it to

her like here you go. I love that. I love it. As another, because we're like the same age. So I think the outdatedness is really like kind of my thing too. Because it's just like a millennial thing. You know what I mean? It's like charming in a way, I guess. You're like, you see a bunch of nuns outside the VMAs like protesting.

Didn't she like kill a nun in court? Wait. She like bought their church and like they like, she kept force buying it. And they like did not want to give it up. And then one of the nuns dropped dead in court. Like, I made a video about that. Yes. And then there's the other guy that she just bought the house with Orlando Bloom and like

something else happened there too, right? Oh, that was up here in Montecito. It's like really close to our house. She's taking out people for properties. So there's something a little bit scary. She is a little scary. I know. She's kind of funny.

I know. And people just try to cancel her. I guess it's just because she is. It's so funny because she was such a big pop star when i was young and like when we were both in our 20s and so now it's like yeah it's sabrina it's like all the new girls you know tate and all the stuff and we're just like i'm like who are all these people i can't keep up with them of course iconic but all these people i'm just finding out like tate olivia all the stuff like that i'm like figuring it out because you're 30 you said yeah so yeah

30 december but that's a big that like we always talk about this and this way you have such an issue with age gap, like, relationships. Because I'm 36, but, like, that six-year age gap is, like, major. Oh, it changes things. Even, like, my boyfriend, like, at 35, like, we'll have a song come on, like, a throwback. And I'm like, God, don't play this. He's like, you know, I was, like, thriving. Yeah, yeah.

I was hearing it in eighth grade. He was hearing it in college. It's, like, very different experiences. Yeah. And, like, once you're older, obviously, we have, like, an age gap, too. Once you're, like, older, it's,'s like different, you know, obviously age gap, but it's still a gap, you know, there's still stuff

you like don't remember and stuff. Are you going to do a boyfriend reveal today? Maybe, but also, one more thing on Katy Perry. Yes. I know we're going so fast, we can like chill,

but I love it. Not me pausing. Oh wait, why do you think she had you on? Like what was her intention of having you on? That's a good question. Is it her kind of like

saving face because like you're doing so well right now that it's kind of like, oh, I'm like, I suck. Like I need someone who's likable. No way. And question is it her kind of like a saving face because like you're doing so well right now that's kind of like oh i'm like i suck like i need someone who's likable and like it's kind of like she thinks she's like kind of giving charity work by giving you like this really good off but then it's like at the end of the day she you're doing charity work because you've got the you're like now being dragged down with her like for what reason you're out of up right now it's so real um in no way did i ever think she was using me it's actually so weird when i saw those comments because. Did people comment that?

Yeah. That's like my genuine thought. I saw people comment that, which was like so, it's like nice, I guess, on my behalf that she would want to use me. But it's like I'm the opposite where I feel like, oh no, like people are going to like cancel her for having me in the music video. You know what I mean? Because it could go one of two ways.

But people, you know, like I've always said it's a flow, social media. So it's like, yeah, people like me now and hopefully they keep liking me. I don't know. We'll see. But like, yeah. So this is interesting. I have no idea idea they sent me an email like a week after I gave birth and like do you want to be in an A-list pop stars music video and I was like yes and I didn't really ask questions and um I have no idea I was very honored yeah I was honored I

was like excited and um I liked the I liked the song people you know people have to hate them oh god in the car yeah oh giving the lyrics like girl let's be real of course you like the song you're you've already admitted you're like i'm like sounds like this can i just say that i also am just like an awkward person i am super awkward in general like i just don't know what to do or say like i'm actually really shy in person too like i am like i'm very imposter syndrome where i'm like i should not even be here like what am i doing in this video so i think it's that that was so iconic though it's just like it's giving it's just like what is she thinking in this moment like you gotta be on like that like that high i'm on right now where it's like i'm partially blacking out like because when i'm in room you're probably just like

here's going out you just hear a high buzz like is this what you guys wanted wait so you're so katie perry you helped katie perry's case who would be like someone you'd start in her music video would be hurtful oh i think anybody anyone else i'm trying to think like it's like so likable that it's like if trisha showed up they're just like what oh i see what you mean like a i don't know i'm saying just like girl what the hell is she doing i think yeah anyone like sabrina ari, probably like what? No, Ariana Grande. I mean, you're an Ethan, like, stan, aren't you? Oh, yeah, I do love Ethan Slater.

What do you think about him? Hard to look at, but I'm sure he's nice. What is with that? Oh, my God. This is, I think, I think he's so cute. I love him so much. Well, I do, actually. I like when, like, I prefer someone, actually, my boyfriend's pretty hot, so I'm like, this

doesn't work for that, but I like when they're a little bit less attractive, so I can see the, like, I'm like, you know what? I don't want a hot guy. I'll tell you that. Okay, but you're a hot. So I'm like, this doesn't work for that. But I like when they're a little bit less attractive. So I can see that you, like, I'm like, you know what? I don't want a hot guy. I'll tell you that. Okay. But you're a hot guy. Thank you. Do you think your boyfriend is hotter than you or less hot?

We're like, I would say we're pretty equal. Wow. That's so nice of you. He's got like some facial hair. I would say you're like a 10. I don't think there's anything that would be changed about you, really. You have the good hair, the clothing. It's the LA effect.

Trust me. Really? You saw me two years ago before LA. Well, I saw you in 2019 and you look the same. You look great. That was actually, that was a good point. Because I ago before LA. Well, I saw you in 2019, and you looked the same. You looked great. That was actually, that was a good point, because I was like, right before, I went through my kind of heavier phase, which was never that heavy, but it showed. Even she was looking at my ID from last year. She's like, jeez.

I had a lot of Chick-fil-A that night. The salt was crazy. I feel like that happens, and you just get older. Most people thin out. Not me yet, but I'm waiting for that era. That's what I'm hoping for, right? I'm hoping 30, I think my jaw will start to show. You have it. It looks like you like you kind of look like zach

efron like a little bit that's charged i know you like i know i'm like that's a big compliment okay no that's a good thing like it's giving like iron claw like zach efron like i've gotten like a young joaquin phoenix i've gotten like a young elvis actually before yeah i could see that too which one's your favorite which one do you want to look like you know every time i look up joaquin phoenix i'm like oh my god i'm, Jesus. I know he's a handsome man, but damn, that's me. He's a little, like, playing the Joker now. He's a little scary. To me, he looks like a really sharp version of me. Like, if you put the sharpness all the way up on my face, it's like, whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess I could see that too. Yeah, I think all of those, which is kind of cool. It's kind of a good

thing. You can morph into anybody, which is really great. So your boyfriend, equally as hot. Yeah. How do we get there, though? You have to remind me, because I your boyfriend equally as hot yeah how do we get there though you have to remind me because i jump all over the place how do we get there even slater oh no i've got a good memory that's the one thing i could actually offer here because i forget don't think he's that cute um yeah musical theater person at all no not really i mean can we find one person who likes musical theater i know i'm like i wish i could help you out there but no i want to see wicked the first movie or this time wait but you don't have you seen it and no you just want to see the movie because it's a big movie no but i know like the isn't she popular because of you i literally only know because of you i'm like that's the only reason i'm gonna like go and see it this year or not really because my boyfriend also likes it i'm like is he a musical theater person yeah he is he's like trained in like that world oh okay

yeah we actually met so he's a queer youtuber his name's like matt cullen and he does like he sounds so familiar i do know that he interviews like a lot of like popular drag queens a lot of like like yeah some like sometimes like street workers like things like that okay yes he does like really great content um and no one knows you're dating no but we we actually met through wme we got signed to WME. And then they pulled me to go help him with like monetizing on the YouTube because I'm pretty good at like getting it go green, you know? Yes, you're so smart.

Yes. So that's how we met. And then like we met a few years ago. And then we started dating like earlier this year. And it's been like, I think he's actually my husband. Like he's my Moses. I'm kind of like my Moses. Oh my God.

You think you'll get married and all that? I think so, yeah. I love that. Literally, because I'm not like, I'm a very monogamous type person. Like, in the gay community, you know, Kiko, like, and I don't like to party that hard and those things. Yeah. So, like, one thing we're looking at, it's so cute, like, we're looking at our videos,

because he's a YouTuber, too, and he's done it for a while. Yeah. His videos from, like, seven years ago are like, what I'm going to tell my children one day. Oh my god. And those things. And then my videos from seven years ago are like, how to twerk by the pool, trying to do anything to get attention.

I feel you on that, but I honestly feel, like, when our kids, ago are like, how to twerk by the pool, trying to do anything to get attention. I feel you on that, but I honestly feel like when our kids, right, like, I've had kids now, but I feel like in, like, 15 years when they know about stuff, like, it won't be the same. It's so irrelevant, too. I think it'll be irrelevant.

I think, like, the stuff we see now won't even exist. Do you know what I mean? Or there's ways to scrape things off. So I think, like, when you have kids, or if you have kids, like, you know, and they get older, I don't think you have to worry about it as much. I definitely want kids.

You do? Yeah, for sure. I want, like, you know, and they get older, I don't think you have to worry about it as much. I definitely want kids. You do? Yeah, for sure. I want, like, four would be the max, but definitely two. Oh, my. I really want four. I know. I would love four, but it's hard. Like, one's hard and then two's are really hard.

Well, also in their body. I'm like, oh, God. Yeah, I know. This last pregnancy was a little tough, but honestly, I wouldn't keep having kids. But I held them a little later, too. And that's later. In my head, I'm still warping. Again, millennials, like, they think later.

You thought the due date was earlier, right? Yes. I remember. Because we were even, like, texting, like, do you think she gave birth the due date was earlier right I remember because we were like we were even like texting like do you think she gave birth yet the whole world I love that oh that's so cool no it's nice that people cared yeah I literally thought it was like the first week of May I didn't do any podcast in May because I was like just waiting to give birth and it like didn't happen to the end of May but it was a cute experience it was fun I would love to just keep getting pregnant but I'm like older

so I'm like you know I'm gonna be like I'm 36 I was again internet mine I'm like I'm almost 40 but I'm not I'm 36 but it's pretty nice you know I'm gonna be like I'm 36 I always internet mind I'm like I'm almost 40 but I'm not I'm 36 but it's pretty nice you can knock out a baby in one year right just nine months so like you can do 37 38 there's your boy

that's true that's true but you know I'm trying to get on traders I'm trying to get on like projects you know what I mean so I just did a compilation of all the times

I mentioned all these shows I'm like can you get me on something I want to be on like one thing they're remaking Joseph and the Mane which I know means nothing to you because you don't like musicals but Britney Spears

is supposed to star in it and it's starting production wait what's supposed Spears is supposed to star in it and it's starting production wait what's supposed to or is supposed to it's it's allegedly Britney

yeah did you not see this going back to work I mean I'm surprised because I'm like the Britney King over here oh you love Britney too okay

oh yeah so on her Instagram story like Friday she's like I'm about to do this role it's non-fiction didn't you see it her little story

no and it's and it's like directed by John Chu but everyone thought it was her biopic but she goes it's fictional

so it's not so then shout out sweaty oracle he does these tiktoks he's like britney spears is in talks to play the narrator in the remake of joseph which is like a huge musical by andrew lloyd weber and it starts production in january for amazon so i'm like let me not get pregnant just in case they want to ask me so i've been like pitching myself i just try to pitch myself for everything that's how you do it you would think but i don't get in anything i pitch myself constantly and i haven't been in anything yet. Well, I feel like I'm on girls' struggle here. I tried, like, E! News.

I tried to do a little, like, gig with them. Like, they had a little hot gossip, like, segment where they were going to, like, do a sauna. And they're like, we need two attractive-looking guys to go through this week's pop culture on a weekly basis. And I'm like, that's me. That's me. Did you get it? No. Really?

No. They went for either someone internal or, like, someone who's, like, a D-list actor who's, like, needs work. Have you seen who got it? Or you don't know? No, no. I keep my eye out, though. Yeah, E! News was, like, they just sent me an email, and they're like needs work have you seen who got it or you don't know yeah i keep my eye out though yeah e-news was like they just sent me an email and they're like oh once you've been e-news i was so excited like yes this is my moment because i love it too i would totally take a hosting gig like that it'd be so much fun and then it was something like um it's for the rundown on snapchat i was like well i don't want

to be on snapchat god i'm so over snapchat i'm over snapchat they banned me they steal my content and i'm like i don't want to be on snapchat like just watch my show so i don't know i was kind of like it's annoying too because it's like getting hip again like my friends are like 22 years old like um are on it I'm like I don't want to like relearn this yeah I'm not into it either I don't know I guess it's like kind of trying to be a thing but it's not my thing anymore but let's get into some hot topics yes I love it oh my god I love it you are the hot topics I like try to I just try to be like Trisha Coden yeah I love this so bad look at that I love that you handwritten too.

I love a handwritten note. I don't think I've handwritten like years. It's been years. Did you do it just for this? Just for this, of course. Oh my God, I love it. And then your sticker. Is that your merch too?

The Let's Get Into It? Oh yeah. Someone actually just sent it to me. It's just like a sticker. Oh my God, you should like sell those. I love a merch. I love merch. I would have like that merch that you just dropped.

I like, because you know me. I'm the type that I order right away. You bought the Stanley. I'll send you one on our next one. We're getting more in. Because you bought the Stanley. I was like, oh my God, how did you? I have the Just Trish shirt too. I have like all of it. You bought the Stanley. I'll send you one on our next one. We're getting more in because you bought the Stanley. I was like, oh my God,

how did you? I have the Jess Trish shirt too. I have like all of it. Really? Okay, I'll send it to you. I have my Polyester magazine free to sign too. Wait,

what is it? The Polyester magazine. Oh my God, really? Yeah, I need you to sign it. I want to like video it. Oh my God,

you're so, I love it. This is so cool. That's why I'm saying like, I'm at the age now where it's like people who like watched me when they were younger

are in all these cool positions and I feel so honored. You know what I mean? It's just like, oh my, actually the director of the Katy Perry music video, she's really young. She was like literally in her early 20s and she's like, yeah, I'm the mean? It's just like, actually the director of the Katy Perry music video, she's really young.

She was like literally in her early 20s and she's like, yeah, I'm the director. I'm like, you're the director? Like it's crazy. And she's like, I loved you. I loved watching all your videos

and I'm like, this is my moment. It gives me like goosebumps because like all your years of like putting yourself out there being vulnerable, sacrificing that, like now you're like a teacher.

You see those teachers that are like 20 years later and they're like, like my student like this and I was like, you're like a teacher getting that warm feeling of like you know what I made this mess

and it's pretty fun thanks no I love it because I think when I was young trying to get all this attention it's like all old people

in position we don't get her she's fat weird we don't like her the internet yeah right but now all the younger people

that are in these positions know Trish is cool she's always been cool so thank you all to the youngins out there Gen Z I love you guys thanks for making me cool again alright so hot topics younger people that are in these positions, like, no, Trish is cool. She's always been cool. So thank you all. To the youngins out there, Gen Z, I love you guys. Thanks for making me cool again.

All right, so hot topics. I'm super excited. What do you want to get into first? Oh, my God, there's so much. Oh, we have to give a shout-out real quick to Warner Brothers for taking us to Beetlejuice. And Patreon, right? Where's the Patreon guy?

Oh, Patreon, oh, my God, yes. He's a Trevor Patreon. Do you have a Patreon? Do you want to do yours? Do you have a Patreon? No, I'm just doing... We can. I watch the podcast.

No, I just know the podcast, dick. I'm like a Patreon people. Let's do a doing, I watch the podcast. I just know the podcast, Dick. I'm like, it's Patreon people. Let's do a shout out. Patreon.com slash Juster. You guys for extended podcasts. I love you so much. And headshots and stickers

and all of that fun stuff. There it is. There's a sticker. King Tut. You have until September 10th to get your headshot, your stickers. We ship them out September 15th.

My mom and sister ship them out for you guys. And we do extended podcasts, bonus videos. We just posted a video this week, I think, coming up about my poetry book. And there it is. 100 episodes. So check it out.

We also have to give a shout out to Warner Brothers. Thank you so much for letting us go see Beetlejuice early. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice is in theaters September 6th. Not sponsored. Didn't get paid for it. I was just super excited. We ended up going to this event by Warner Brothers. It was at Grauman's Chinese Theater. And it was like, it was, yeah. In Hollywood? Yeah. Oh, you go all the way out there yeah i know it was a thing and it was like nine in the morning it was like you just drive there yeah literally i just can't

imagine you just like venturing to hollywood yeah i was like this isn't making sense yeah because i just don't like the parking and the structure you know what i mean like that whole thing um and it was it was great it was like it was like half influencer event my thing is the premiere i was like we're going to a premiere and it was like a screening which is just as cool but they were literally premiering at the same time at the venice film festival in italy and i was like oh okay that makes sense but yeah such horror yummy was over there when you're there do a bunch of people just come up to you like are you just non-stop yeah we have to before the movie ended we have to run out yeah yeah that part was cool so it was like at the beginning like a lot of

people came up to me and i thought that was like you know it's always cool it is always cool because literally my job is dependent on like taking pictures i'm not a chapel grown you know what i mean where i have like all this talent like but i you know for me it's like literally that's the only reason i'm popular is because of people so i i do feel like i owe it to people because like i don't have talent i should never be like known or anything that but i love it so when people come up to me i get excited of course it's beetlejuice too and everyone knows everyone's like i knew you'd be here because it's beetlejuice so that was iconic and cool um but it does get a little like overwhelming especially because i do

get a little social anxiety just in general so it was like half like fans could come then half like influencers um and it was cool yeah i did meet a lot of people and then they did come get us like a few minutes before the movie ended so we could go through the experience and it was like really fun it was really great um it's at holland and highlands to the afterlife experience but i'm so obsessed with beetlejuice it's like my favorite thing in the whole world. Our dining room upstairs is Beetlejuice. Like everything about it. And how long have you had this one? Oh, this one I've had, yeah, for since, I don't know,

probably like eight years. You had that in like your bedroom at one point, right? Yes, oh my god. Was it like on the bed frame? Yes! Yes, that bed frame from Wayfair was like $200. I'm scared. You're like, I know way too much. No, first of all, I so appreciate you for knowing all this. For real, because I always feel, I do get intimidated. I hate asking people to do stuff.

I hate asking people to come on here. I get really intimidated because I just feel like, I don't know. Sometimes, when I call people flops, I mean that with love because I've been my flop era so many times too. So I always still get scared that I'm like, okay, people don't want to come on or whatever, especially because you are popular in your own right. So that's why I'm like, so anyways, the fact that you know makes me so happy. I manifested this whole thing. Last time I was here too with alexa i was just like i got my picture

like i'm like i'm gonna have the world think that was on it so then they're gonna be like asking like when's slunk gonna be on it next everybody wanted you on it everybody wanted you on and so like i was super excited to like have you back and it just like makes sense because you know so much hot topics and stuff too we can do a full episode interviewing and i love that too because i feel like there's so many people that you like don't know their background their history and all that stuff like that when we talked you were like so like you are now very talkative very this and it's it's cool no I love when people like come because it's like my opportunity to meet people I never go to influencer

events and so what I do it's like cool to like get to meet other people so when I saw you with Alexa I was like that's so cool that's how I met Tara Yemi it was from Jake and Johnny she came with them and love Johnny you know yeah they're so I love him so cool like I went to influence her like event one time for like this like twitch streamer's birthday and i spent like 11 hours with johnny and eugenia cooney like in one day oh yeah what's the tea on that you said i mean it was interesting i mean i would say like eugenia is like surprisingly very easy to be around like i mean like even us talking and stuff like she can hold a conversation like very normal makes sense why she's out here with jeffree star like hanging out makes sense or doesn't make sense i mean it makes sense that she's she can speak and like she's not like a i feel like a lot of people like negated her as like she's like can't take care of herself almost

i see right like kind of like helpless like oh my gosh yeah and like her mom is like so like on her which that was very apparent like the entire time like her mom was like texting her and those things but like i was actually really shocked at like her like humor and like independence and like i was like oh like i feel like she's always just so nice on the internet. It's like, sorry you feel that way. But you start, like, asking her, like, normal questions, you know? And she just, like, carries, like, a normal conversation. Yeah, pretty normal.

I would love to talk to her, too. I just think she's so fascinating. She was my first podcast guest. Really? Yeah. Wait, really? I've never seen her on a podcast. Yeah, it was, like, a digital thing.

Like, over Zoom? Yeah, but we talked about, like, the Onision and, like, all of the Laura. She did? Yeah, really? I've never seen her on a podcast. Yeah, it was like a digital thing. Like over Zoom? Yeah, but we talked about like the Onision and all of the Laura. She did? Yeah, I talked about everything. She's spilling the tea. While I was telling her too, I was like, this is your time to go off. If you want to say like Onision was an asshole to me, like this is your place to say that. What a throwback.

I would love like anybody in the comments. I feel like some people don't even know Onision. I actually don't even really know him either. I only know him from her. Because he would make those videos of acting like he was her, doing cooking videos and eating, but obviously very toxic. With her? No, acting like her.

Like, I'm going to eat this. And then like, you know. Oh, cringe. Yeah, very cringe. He has some cringe stuff. I hope he's gone. Is he? I'm scared.

I get scared talking about certain people. I'm like, don't come for me. I remember him. He was friends with Shane. Even before I was friends with Shane, they did so many videos together. And people would say they look like each other and stuff.

Then he had, like, a documentary on, like, Discovery. They did, like, a docu-series about him with Chris Hansen. Like, it was a whole thing. I feel like they were, like, a couple years late. Like, I feel like those documentaries

now really hit, right? Always, always. Like, it would have been, like, trending. Yeah. No, I know. It's kind of weird that people, like, don't care about it anymore. Like, even the, who's it?

Frankie? Who did we just talk about? The Frankie family. The eight passengers. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm surprised they haven't done like a documentary on her they're probably in the works i'm sure do you ever get asked to do those i actually feel like well i am in a position now where i'm realizing i'm exposing things on the internet getting cease and desist letters from it being shut up and then a year later a documentary is coming out exposing that same thing so i'm like

now kind of reframing like my projectory and like this industry Is like if I get to see Synthesist and stuff Like I'm gonna go start and see if there's a docuseries there Like sell it off to like a network And then go from there because there's a lot of people Like I'm not gonna say their name but A DJ in particular who like is very well liked But then like has so many victims I've interviewed and stuff that have come forward

Can you just tell me and I promise we'll bleep it out Wait why? I feel like R worded like some girl that I've interviewed. It's alleged or real? I mean, I 100% believe her. She's one of my friends, too. Okay, okay, got it, okay. He did some really messed up things.

Essentially, they came to an agreement with that one lawyer, that Gloria, that always represents it. Gloria Allred, yes. Oh, she's terrible. Oh, you don't like her? I thought people liked her. What she does,

and she'll get a case, she'll get a case she'll get someone she'll get a lot of clout on it and then she'll sell it to like a like give the case off to like a private like settlement company and essentially these private settlement companies make it so that you cannot speak about this after the fact and essentially it worked in his favor like so he was able to like sue my friend for like 1.5 million dollars because of tweets because she tweeted out taylor swift lyrics and they were able to take it to the court and say this lyric applies to him so he now is getting the judgment like that's a that's a 25 000 charge yeah it's insane well did you hear ariana grande it's alleged that her concept album was to get around the loophole that she wasn't

allowed to make music about her ex-husband dalton oh really so this new one she's like is saying oh it's a concept album it's eternal sunshine the spotless mind so she's like it's just characters or whatever but it's like obviously people think it's about Dalton and stuff like that which I thought was like so interesting and I'm like yeah I guess if you so that's why like it's weird if you if you just tweet lyrics like how can they hold that I know literally like oh that's about me that's a manipulation of like just our our like whole industry like entertainment industry into the legal world like being on the other side of it like i have a really great lawyer now but like you know the ace family is trying to like threaten to sue me so i got connected with

this lawyer and since then i feel way more confident like you know standing up for myself and stand for other people but like yeah like my friend for example like she thought she was doing all the right things and then she's like in this like agreement so no it's all hard and like what you're doing is really good it's just like you know most people wouldn't take it on because it is so scary like lawsuits all that stuff it's just like a lot of work it's a lot of energy too it's just like so it's draining so i think it's amazing i was bullied so much as a kid like and i kind of like when you have nothing else like and you could take someone else's like and own that and like stand up for it gives you purpose like and i definitely feel that wholeheartedly like i don't have like nothing i could lose everything and like

you know it's it's to me it's more worth it to, like, spread the truth, to stand up for someone. And, like, even just to, like, be this figure. I'm so proud to even be, like, standing, like, being here today. Yeah. Like, sitting here with you. No, what you're doing is amazing. It is amazing.

And it's, like, I always, I'm always, like, shocked when people, like, are able to do that and stand up. I think because I've been so scared my whole life. And I'm always scared. And so I think it's good. People need people like you. We need your book. It's coming. I think it's coming. I think it's coming, actually scared my whole life and I'm always scared. And so I think it's good. People need people like you. We need your book. It's coming.

I think it's coming. I think it's coming, actually. I was like, yeah, I think we talked about it. Did we talk about it last time when you were here? Because we both were like, oh, I just signed with an agency. And so I think it's happening. But it takes a while. It takes a year and a half for it to come out, I guess.

Because I'm on it. I'm ready to go. But it takes a hole. And then it goes through lawyers. Because I want to do a tell-all for sure. But I'm like, how does it work? Do you have to go through lawyers? Yeah, it's actually really nice if you can change names like that's how I because I'm writing something too and I'm like I'm writing

about lawyers stuff too so it's actually like I was going to do a series of exposing the Hollywood stuff but I'm like it's actually easier to write because you could change the name be careful I'm worried for you I know I know like just because Hollywood stuff gets me so scared sometimes right like it's like I don't know maybe I just I think I'm just a paranoid person. Actually, do what you want. Don't listen to me. I get so scared. What I've learned, though, too, is everyone's human. And, like, they're all still people, too.

And they don't have this crazy power. Like, and that's something, too, with, like, the influencer world. And, like, even, like, yourself. Like, we are reclaiming some of that. Like, why is Bob Saget scared about it? Like, you know? Yeah. It's Bob Saget.

They should care less. I was scared, though. I was like, I'll delete it. I'm sorry. Yeah, right? I know. I immediately deleted it. Did you? I filmed two apologies. And I refused to do them was scared though. I was like, I'll delete it. I'm sorry. Yeah, right? I know. I immediately deleted it. Did you?

I filmed two apologies and I refused to do them in my studio. I did them on the kitchen floor because I was inspired by you. But also I was just trying not to, like them to not take it seriously. Like, you seriously can't do it in the studio? I'm like, no, it's like not working right now. Did they ask you to do an apology? I did too. And they said both of them were, because I couldn't fake it.

I see. So I just like read what they wanted me to, but I made it so clear. Like I was like held hostage or something. It's very, do you remember, I always bring him up, because I did't fake it and like so I just like read what they wanted me to but I made it so clear like I was like held hostage or something it's very do you remember I always bring him up but because I did like him too at one point and he's not doing videos anymore do you remember Sanders Kennedy yeah I remember and he like used to do so much drama and he was like doing so well like getting so many views and then he had this weird one about Shane which just like it just was weird it was like a lot of it was like just not any truth to it and then he had to do an apology and it was the same thing where it just looked like he was held hostage

He's like I'm very sorry for that video. Like I will never do it again. Like Shane is fine. He there's no victim I was like it was so so I guess they asked him to do it and then And I think it's probably his way of trying to like like cuz audience can see through it, you know I mean I see so but then he really did just kind of disappear which I had so bad like I was he was one of The first drama channels that like likes me and we used to like hang out in New York in like 2012 And so I don't know what happened to him. It's okay. Kind of sounds nice though, just disappearing sometimes, right?

Yeah. Just to disappear. I played the Powerball. I like literally, Powerball tonight, Make a Million Smart. I'm like one day. But then I'm like, would I? I don't know. Cause I really do miss the podcast when I'm like on the weekends.

I'm like, I kind of want to come back to it. You know what I mean? I don't think I could ever. Well, I realize that if she has more money, she's going to do more projects. Yeah. Do more music videos. More music videos. It's like, I just love the content of it all.

Yeah. I would do, like, sets, and I would get, like, audiences to come in. I don't know. Just, like, live out my fantasy. I would love that. You'd be so good with an audience. I would be so good. A shady cameraman.

Yes! Oh, I love, do you love Wendy? Oh, that's part of, like, my whole, like, YouTube started kind of with Wendy Williams. Yeah. You know, she used to be like, grab a snack, and we'll be right back. Yes! My intro used to be, like, grab a snack snack and get ready to wash it down with some hot tea.

Oh, I love it. I love it. You took it and turned it. Until the tea turned into trauma. And I was like, I can't call this tea anymore. Yeah, right. Then it's like an actual thing. I know that's when we started this too.

I was like, ooh, let's do Hot Topics. We shouldn't call it Hot Topics because it's a 20s thing. But now I'm like, it's Hot Topics. That's what it is. I'm like, let's get into Hot Topics. You know? She was just spotted for the first time since March 2023. Do you see that?

Oh, where was it? She spotted it last week. She was at a holistic doctor's office with her son, who her son is currently getting evicted from his place, just had this big birthday bash, spending money that he does not have. So I made a video being like, the son's possibly feeding off the money. But at least we saw sign of life. Yeah.

I would love her on. Oh my God. Please let me. She was supposed to have her own podcast too with Spotify. I don don't know what happened i'd be kind of scared of her though you never know hopefully she'd be like in a good mindset that documentary scared me but i feel like she would maybe this is like my ego but i'm just like i feel like she'd like me you know what i mean i feel like we'd get on like her and britney are like made two best friends in my head for real like i like love them i love rosie o'donnell too i love her on have you ever seen

britney and like have you gone to a concert and such have you ever seen her like walking around yes all the time. But I never really talk about it because I'm like, you know, I never want to be that person because I do love her so much, even though I'm like the biggest stan. But I never want to be that person that like sneaks the foot. I did once. I did sneak and I felt weird about it. So I was like, no. You didn't like post or anything, no? No, I never posted

it. And she's around. She lives in this area. So I see her like quite frequently and she drives her little white Mercedes. So even when all this stuff was happening, like, oh, is Brittany alive? You know, like, around her wedding, people were, like, I would see her, and I'd get, like, really excited. But I never want to be weird, especially because I'm, like, I don't want to weird her out. You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel that.

You know? Especially in the world, like, that she lives in. Like, wouldn't it be so refreshing for, like, someone not to be weird? Yeah, that's what I mean. But also, like, she's not going to come up to us. Exactly, right. And it's, like, I've, like, seen her, and, you know, you just want to, like, make eye contact. But I do the opposite. I, like, look away as if, like, and it's like I've like seen her You know you just want to like make eye contact I do the opposite I like I like look away as if like I don't know who

This person is you know what I mean but I do get excited because you see Her you're so petite and little and cute and you're just like I want to it's so hard not to And I get you know I get it I get it but it's Like I don't know the one thing I don't understand like And this is no hate to Brittany because like we love Brittany but like Yeah why is every photo I see like her hair Looks like is it windy outside like is it really windy

Out here like it is windy we Live in like the mountains so there is like a breeze I love Brittany for not like caring it's her signature you know what I mean because if you see me out in public I never have my hair done it's never brushed in the back ever like you know what I mean so I kind of live for that she's my icon like she must feel that right she's like I just need to live my she had extensions her whole life she's like I'm just I'm just going to live my best life with, like, you know, my hair as is. I'll always, like, Brittany can do no wrong with my eyes. Like, I love Brittany more than anything. So I stan her so hard.

I would love to see, like, a blackout, like, dark hair, like, one more time. Like, you know, like, when she did, like, the piece of me, like, that era. Yes. Just, like, brand new. I used to like her brown hair when she did those, like, little tours and stuff like that. She just got married. I, like, love that little era of Brittany. It was so cute.

Like, her so chaotic. I love that. She's, like, the like love that little era, Brittany. It was so cute. Like her show Chaotic or like Kevin Federline. I love that. She's like the original vlogger. Like they were like vlogging with their cameras. I know, in bed and stuff. Yeah.

I thought it was so cute and the way she talked. So charming. Yeah. Do you have anything you want to shout out? Do you have a Patreon? You can shout it out.

I know we're like halfway through now. No, I don't have a Patreon. I'm bad at those things. I've got my YouTube channel that I post every day. Every day. That's wild. I've got my podcast I do I post every day. Every day. That's wild.

I've got my podcast I do weekly. And then we've got some new projects coming out soon. Yes. Wait, when are we going to talk about that? Because we're going to do, are we doing a mukbang still? Are we doing a little mukbang? Yeah, we're going to be doing that. Is it going to be on where?

So it's going to be a separate channel. Okay. And it's something Christy and I are working on. I'm so excited. And you're the first guest of our segment that we're doing. Wait, really? Yeah. Oh my gosh.

I'm so excited. I can't wait. Because I know you're all friends with influencers and stuff Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited. I can't wait. Because I know you're all friends with influencers and stuff like that. So I was like very excited. Yay. I can't wait. You're in the crowd. You're in it.

All right. So we're finally getting into Hot Topics. Yeah. I'm sorry. I feel bad. Everyone's like, damn. No, no. Skips you 20, 50 minutes or something.

Is it? I don't know. Is that the timer? No. Has it been? Yeah. Holy shit. Oh, my God.

Look at that. You're having fun. I haven't even seen you stand up. Usually I see Moses stand up to do the 30-minute checks on the things. No, I did. You did? Okay. Well, damn. All right. I haven't even seen you stand up. Usually I see Moses stand up to do the 30 minute check. No, I did. You did? Okay. Well, damn. All right.

Here we go. Did you see the Rolling Stone most influential 25 of 2024? No. The list of influencers. It's always interesting to me. Do you think they're bought? It's giving bought. Oh, well, you know what?

I do know you can buy certain things. Like you can buy your way into people, even though I never have done that. But I know you can like buy your way into people like for announcements engagements and stuff like that um this one was interesting because it had a wide range of people um i'm like don't know don't know i'm so bad at those things i'm like you were it's like this person has like 10 million followers i've never heard of them like i'm the same way are you into influence are you into influencers i do yeah i mean i keep up with it definitely like chrissy's more like on that realm of it where she like is in the lore like watching it no but that's what i love that's what i'm saying we're on there's so many different tiktok timelines because like you're not in the

hallie sophia lacorte neither was oscar but then i was talking to christine shake that that's all my page i'm like yeah it's interesting how different things is the top influencers were these were the top 25 was alex earl okay do you know her wait what do you think about her saying she had to come out and say that she didn't copyright her old ask fm oh i didn't see any slur thing so essentially she was like i feel like the brook kind of like took over so no one was like talking about the alex as much but oh well she i wonder if she timed it that way she's like i know cancel's coming back let me just slip it in real quick before people start talking about quick leak so she um they're, she would like reply to like, like Ask.fm was like

an anonymous like question forum, which is the most toxic thing ever like growing up. Like and I don't know if it's like high school, like people would like send like, you're an F word, like you're ugly,

you're disgusting. Like you would never know who it comes from. Why were the people on it? Because it was so toxic back then. Like we like, you know, we all love the toxicity

of like MySpace that time. Oh my God. I don't remember this at all. She would apply back using like the insular and things like that so then people like alex earl did yeah like just like for no reason oh okay and then what was her what was her apology then like what did she say she essentially like how old was she does it matter i don't know does the context matter i think she was like like really young 14 oh my god yeah okay wow so essentially there's like this podcast where like they claim that they got a letter from her like threatening her to or threatening them to

like not talk about her like these this league essentially like look not talk about these slurs and um she's denying that she ever like reached out to this podcast to like threaten them and so we don't know them podcast yes yeah Yes, yeah, exactly. Or do we know them? Yeah. I know their names. Do we actually know them? Jessie and Lily. I said it last week and I say it again. I will never forget their names. But they're like, I guess the letter they got, you know, they. Yeah, I saw that. So Alex came out and she did an apology saying that she did not actually go and copyright

those screenshots, that like, it's not true. So who emailed them? Then who lied, right? That's what I'm saying. I mean, like playing devil. I mean, maybe someone did just randomly send like a cease and desist to this person, you know, maybe had no affiliation with her. emailed them then who lied right that's what i'm saying i mean like playing devil i mean maybe someone did just randomly send like a cease and desist to this person you know maybe you had no affiliation with her i've had people like claim my tiktoks that like were that wasn't me you know

what i mean like youtube videos people were claiming and i forgot i had this company for forever ago i signed with that we're like doing that and all of a sudden i was like oh trisha's claiming videos but i have like no idea so i what were they called what's the name of it it's like such a trigger. Super Bam. Yeah, Super Bam. And did they get you? Did they get your video? Oh, of course they got me. Wait, really?

Yeah, a few different times. Was it with myself? No, I never made a video about you. Wait, really? Yeah. Is that good or bad? I don't know. I think it's good.

Actually, so like Lana Del Rey, I will never talk about her because I genuinely love her. Like there's, I just love her. Oh, yeah, I love her. So like same with you. Generally love you. Okay, oh my God, love you even more now. I couldn't imagine. Because I'm telling you, drama channels, they flip-flop. They're like love me and then the next day they're like, oh, she looks so stupid. She looks like a clown. you like just okay oh my god love you even more now because I'm telling you

drama channels they flip up they're like love me and then the next day they're like oh she looks so stupid she looks like a clown I'm like oh my god well what

like it's and it's hard because I want to love the drama channels you know I love it and I love especially the gay ones I like love

you know I love a sassy gay but then I'm like oh but I don't know if you're like gonna turn on me so I get like scared but okay yeah it's like too close for home like I feel like

when I watch Just Trish like that's my time to like disconnect I'm like I'm not working I'm not sitting here like you know what am I gonna report on from this so yeah it's kind of like my escape and plus like i just i would feel so disingenuous like making a video about like you or even like certain like i don't think i have any like videos about like james

charles or jeffree star like really i might because you like them or just because i'm also just not actually no not that's so wrong back embarrassing no don't like them but i just um i'm just not in that like that kind of i, I guess, realm of, like, that content. You know what I mean? That's a whole different. Those are the other drama channels that I, like, love. Yeah, Chrissy's got that covered. I'm like, she's good at it.

She's good at keeping up with the TikToks and stuff. I know. We gotta have an episode with you because it's so, like, Jeffrey, James. Like, you know, all this stuff. Like, you're in it. You're in it for sure. And I love it. That's what I'm saying.

Like, meeting a female drama channel was, like, so crazy to me because I'm, like, it just for so long I only knew it was the gay drama channels. I never knew any female ones. When's the last time you talked to Jeffrey? Like any communication? Like no direct communication. I think he talked about me on a podcast. And then I kind of was like, but then I'm kind of just kind of.

I saw your little mention. I know there was like that. But there's no little like, hope you're doing well and nothing like that, no. From him or me. Either. I hope he's doing well yeah you know what i mean i feel like okay i don't forget the things and also my issue was never really with him it was like someone that was like working again it's so long i actually don't care

about any of it i'm just like whatever i think it's like friend called me like a greasy pig face and i was like the hair guy you know yeah so whatever i was a little greasy and i was a little piggy that's fine but um i think i took it really sensitively and then of course like Shane and all this. You know, it's just like I'm so glad we're past all that. Yeah. I'm just so happy for you because I was like kind of

like, you know. In my head, yeah. I always really like Jeffrey. I mean, maybe that's like a hot take or whatever and I don't know everything he's done and everything like that but it's like he was always like

I don't know. He was always like funny to me and I like him. I love seeing him do did you see and Chatsworth he had his store opening. Yeah, so random. Yeah, did you see the one where he's like yelled at someone he's like get the

the band was like yes Jeffery I know it but who's he yelling at and he's like get out of here and I was like why is security not doing it he's like and he's like hi Gabriella like he's kind of just like a little fierce but I don't know it's like definitely love hate where I'm like no it's like love to watch from afar type vibe I think that's what it is you know what I mean because I've told you I'm scared of a lot of people and it's not just jeffrey i'm scared of like everybody i'm just like okay i'm like just let me just i like to keep my peace because i am so happy in life right now so i'm like let me just be like a cute little like key but like not get so serious so um but i wish mostly everyone well that i've like had any sort

of drama with it's so interesting to even be talking about this now but i think it's just like it just shows the cultural impact of like those kind of relationships you had online like they were just like that like you know raised a lot of us so like I feel like stupid like why are you even talking about this but also at the same time it makes sense like it's something that lives on like yeah no it's actually so interesting because when we're talking about doing the book and stuff like that like the stuff that they want me to like talk about or bring up is like someone's stuff I'm like do people even care about this and like yeah kind of and I was like I guess like I don't mind talking about certain stuff if like you know it's as long as it didn't like traumatize me which it didn't like Jeffrey did not traumatize me Shane

did not traumatize me it's like then I can talk about it you know stuff that like whatever if something traumatizes me then I just like don't talk about it but we just got so off track for that Alex Earl so she did the apology video and then you said what she she's just like she's just like denying everything and I mean I think she did take accountability right she took accountability for posting it She apologized She apologized She didn't apologize Christy the fact checker

First she posted on her Instagram story and her TikTok story and she was getting hate because the story goes away 24 hours Then she made a video but now she's getting cancelled again because right after she posted the apology video She's like get ready with me for a 70s theme party and she's in the same outfit Oh Well now that my hair is dry in that apology oh i see oh my so essentially she made an instagram story post trying to apologize and fans weren't buying it so she made a video to apologize but it looked like it was just part of her like you know just checking off the box she's like i have five videos to do today we'll do apology apology first, then we'll do, that's. Sponsor first, then apology.

That's wild. Yeah, to not let it like, sit for a minute to look like you've, you know, reflected in some way. Yikes.

Well, you know, I guess people, did people care? Or did people, or were they like, it's fine, we love you still.

Like, what was the reaction? I mean, I think there's like, those people, like, she's got that type of fan base that like,

they're not gonna like, turn a blind eye. Like, so. Okay, I don't know. I don't know if that's like, or bad you know i don't know maybe like yeah i don't know i don't know what it is i'm so bad with these kind of things with like cancellations like how deep but as far as influential i guess i don't know do people buy stuff i'm like that's where i don't understand either i guess like it must be just literally commercial like products like how is she influential like who's is she changing their

life or their opinion right maybe their moisturizer like maybe people are buying stuff because she literally products. How is she influential? Who is she changing their life or their opinion? Right. Maybe their moisturizer. Maybe people are buying stuff because she buys it. I know Nara Smith is also on the list and I do buy those plates.

She has these little chunky plates. I love those. Those are everything. And it was because of Nara Smith. I bought it. I was like, where are these plates from? I was like, it's Gustav Westman. Now I'm being Gustav her clothes.

He's sending me the wine glasses. I do get influenced by her. I was like, ooh, that does look good or whatever. So I consider that. Keith Lee, I think, is another one. He's, like, influential. He was on the list.

But Theo Vaughn? Is Theo Vaughn? Like, he's on the list. I'm like, is he considered influential? I don't know. Like, he's popular. I don't get him. Like, is he a character?

I don't know. I think so. I think so, too. Right? But then I've heard he's like that even when he's not. Right? Like, just. Always just kind of in joking mode.

Yeah. I don't know. But I guess, I mean, he had Donald Trump on. So I'm like, is he influencing people's votes? I don't know. Like yeah i don't know but i guess i mean can't donald trump on so like is he influencing people's votes i don't know like i don't know why is kamala not doing podcasts i feel like she should start doing podcasts because donald trump is getting all these like young people on these like aiden ross and yeah those people will vote for i don't know like i'm not political but i'm like kamala should probably do some podcasts you know what i mean like especially like there was like i feel like those streamers like they're so us

based and like we get a lot of traction on social media of Kamala. But how much is Canadian? How much is European? Right. Did you see what happened to that Be Better guy? Yeah. The guy. He made a video about Kamala.

And I actually watched that as he posted it. And then he ultimately had to delete it. And now everyone's coming from his name. I did love Be Better. He was always on my list for co-hosts when Oscars were on the way. I was like, oh, you know, I could have him come in, too. But I don't know. I don't know anything about him.

Yeah. I mean, his name is, like, starts with an A. Do you know? You love B-Better. Do you know his name, Moses? He always loved him. Well, before all this. What is it?

Aber. A-B-E-R. Aber? Aber. Love it. Right? I never hear him say his name. I love it.

Supposedly, his family is, like, super well-off, like, kind of nepo family. Okay, I get it. They had, like, the biggest, biggest like some type of deal ever to go down like privately with the government because like donald trump had like paid his family for like some essentially like some kind of like services as far as like is this a legend or is this fact i'm pretty sure it's fact yeah so essentially his family the way he answered it to the microphone like a game show you're like i think that's fact he just has like a lot of he comes from a lot of money essentially so then he's like created this like be better honey brand that

he's like making claims about that he got like monks to like teach them how they make this honey that makes you so healthy oh my god and now that he like did that one political kind of thing people are now looking at his own company and they're like hey you're actually selling these things double the cost that you could buy online already from the monks. Oh. Is that – but is that what most people do, right? Like wholesale? Don't they like get wholesale?

No, they do. But he's like the one that calls out everyone for doing it, you know? I see. They're like, well, you're no better. Yep, literally. But that's how it works, you know? It's always full – again, that's why I'm just like trying to stay in my lane because it always comes back around.

You got to just – and then the recently canceled too. We'll like talk about that later. But in the recent canceled, they did say that too. They're like, you know, if you talk about people so much like it's gonna come back yeah and i think that is just how it works like i've done drama for like a while and stuff you're lucky though you've never had anyone come well knock on wood maybe i don't know both of you guys i feel like no one comes for you but i don't know no yes oh okay i want to know the drama there was the threesome i'm just kidding wait actually well there are rumors of me and Manny and Christy.

Oh! Is this real? Oh, yeah, you're friends with Manny. Oh, my God, yes. I have no beef with him. Not friends, though. That was the first time I had,

the second time I'd ever met him was filming that day and everyone, you guys, second time meeting Sloan. No, Manny M.U.A. So Christy did her face reveal

with Manny M.U.A. I remember this because I wanted you on my podcast and I thought I was going to get the first one and I saw you do it with Manny and I was like, um, I thought I was going Manny MUA. I remember this, because I wanted you on my podcast, and I thought I was going to get the first one, and I saw you do it with Manny, and I was like, um, I thought I was going to get the reveal. I was a little, like, I love you, but I was like...

Yeah, no, I loved you, but then I was like, wait, but, like, the reveal. Anyways, I'm that person that gets, like, a little, like, sensitive, but I love you. I was so bad, but I was, like, they were like, oh, she said yes, but we filmed that video with Manny, like, months before, and, like, we wanted to be, like, they were like, oh, she said yes. But we filmed that video with Manny like months before. And like we wanted to be like the first after the fact.

Because I didn't want to tell anyone. I was like scared. Yeah. It was a big deal. We were so excited because we love obviously. It's actually weird. Wait. I know you show your face on TikTok, but you don't show it in the videos, right?

She does now. I started to like a couple weeks ago. I feel like people should see your face when you talk because it is very like it is so surreal to hear your voice and then see your face it's like this is like so weird because your voice is so um we got along with manny a little too well in that video everyone everyone thought we were like bffs and i was like i literally sent him all this information about me the night before but i guess we got along too well oh my god wait so you and manny got along too well yeah and then they thought like we all like had something yeah have you and manny ever had something you don't answer okay no i mean i feel like we're slightly like flirty kind of like yeah at one point but um i'm not like i'm kind of like

weary of like dating like that influencer kind of yeah like when i did like like kind of like start talking to him initially and again it was like nothing it was just more like you're cute like yeah you know but i was like we're going for like corporate daddy vibes like i was like oh i want someone who like doesn't know what i do and like yeah we don't have to talk about it at all but then you're with someone that's like an influencer which i thought that's what i wanted and then i was with him and i'm like oh my video's at one out of ten he's like that's pretty bad right i'm like no that's good like i was like it's so nice to have someone who like actually understands like i mean even um my boyfriend like he's messaged he's like i messaged her years ago like trying to collaborate because he's always he's beenaged he's like I messaged her years ago like trying to collaborate

because he's always he's been an LA thing he sounds so familiar like I have to look him up because I really do like know that name Matt Holland he does a lot of stuff

with like Kiki Palmer randomly if you know Kiki Palmer they have like a show together yeah wait what's the show Bosses is it a podcast

or like a TV show oh it's like through her she has her own network called like Key Network or something oh I love Kiki Palmer I mean it's such a stand

oh my god that's so cool actually she's got like such a good career, right? She's the one that's like, you know what you're saying about music videos where people are like, not Trisha. I feel like if I was ever doing anything with her because she's so likable and just like everyone loves her and I feel like that would like tarnish her brand. But I love her so much. You know who else you look like when you talk?

And well, you don't look like this person, but I'm obsessed with this person. So I feel like just the energy when you're talking is, do you know who Quentin Tarantino is? From you. Okay. this person so I feel like just the energy when you're talking is um do you know who Quentin Tarantino is from you okay you're the way you like are just like really hyper when you talk it's giving me that vibes like if you ever see him in an interview like super animated super animated but I also thought Quentin Tarantino was like the hottest thing in the world but you know I bit more like the animation and the way you tell a story is very Quentin and I love it so much it's giving me like goosebumps I'm like oh my god you're like a young Quentin Tarantino I was gonna

get Botox on Friday and I was like you know I'm gonna wait till next week just so i get that extra expressive you know me too i don't have any but i need to get my botox too my forehead but i feel like i've gotten like numb to it or not actually no that's not the right word that's what's supposed to happen but i'm like i'm too used to it yeah that can happen though something stronger yeah you have to get like there is stuff stronger there i was like doing it but sometimes it like lifts your eyebrows too much and that looks like you have a little facelift. Do you know Rhett and Link? I, you know, I used to watch them when I was in like college and then like, I like clicked on their page the other day.

I was like, whoa, like they look so different. They do look different, right? It's like almost like they like, you know, when a president goes into a presidency, they like, they look so much older after. I was just like, damn, they just run the country for us. Yeah, they're on the list. And I was kind of surprised too i was like wow that's crazy so good for them because they're just like stable like they must have that audience like that we just don't know but that watches them every day i don't understand those people though that because they

are older and it's like how do they how do the audience i guess they had an older audience to begin with so the audience just stays with them i think maybe when you have like kid audiences and they grow up maybe they grow out of you maybe they've always just had an older audience but they're on the influencer list i'm like i don't know if they're influential but they get a lot of views hassan hassan um i know him because of you i've never watched him anything he's on the list yeah he's on the most because he's like politically like influential is that why oh is he i don't even know i don't know he's just like the politics guy okay i'm not sure he's probably the biggest and only big one on twitch you know oh i see he has

yeah he's very influential going live scares me oh never never will i ever go live why would anybody ever do that first of all like people knowing your location what you can say what you can't say i'm like no i need an edit button i need to say jimmy cut this cut this cut this you know what i mean because like that's like the that's why that's like the craziest thing anyone could do these days i was like like it was probably like 2019 and i um was actually live at like my apartment but my like parents address was on the internet so essentially like i was live and they sent four pizza guys to my parents house and they all arrived at one time which i've never heard that before like how does the dominoes the pizza how they all right so my dad thought they were being

jumped because it's like uh late at night and it's like all these kind of people like showing up so he went out there with a gun went on there with a gun i'm like get off my property and they're like oh and they're like bye like we need the cash for the pizza it's like no we're not having any pizza but that's so real what you're saying they're like even like me like i probably had like 60k subscribers at the point and then i was having people like coming to my house absolutely yeah i don't need that anyone to know that i'm like that's that's crazy who'll do the live streaming it all scares me well jake shane mr beast monae mcmichael pokeyman and plastique are also on the list and i feel like i like monae i like plastique mr beast jake shane love jake shane's killing it jake shane's killing it and he's like good at little

dances on tiktok too yeah no he's kind of good at everything he does he just had snooki on too and it's kind of i love it and then when i met him in person at the ben platt show he was actually so nice because i went back and forth with Jake Shamer. I was like, oh, he's friends with David and whatever. But I'm like,

honestly, he's just nice and why am I going for this kid because I'm jealous actually because he got Ed Sheeran and stuff on his podcast. It's like, he's kind of killing it. Like, we don't need

any more enemies out here. Is he a neppo baby? Why did I hear that? Someone said he's a neppo. But didn't he grow up best friends with Sophia Ritchie? No, he went to college with her

husband's little sister oh what a connection his parents are in in the know oh

okay connection I love there's nothing wrong with a neville baby by the way I love I wish I was

I like a neville baby that puts it to work you know I mean at least they're doing something for sure better than trust fund kid yeah no for sure

he's like doing a podcast. He's, like, making the most of it. He's, like, likable and people like him. But he had Snooki on. Yeah, you didn't see that one? It was so good. Because he was, like, a fan. He showed a picture of him at her meet and greet with her when he was, like, 12.

It was so cute. And then he got to, like, interview her. And you could tell. They went to, like, the boardwalk. They did the, like, Labor Day juice head sound. Like, he was, like, living his best life. And I love that for him. She has an amazing story about being abducted by aliens.

Oh. Yeah, everyone should go watch it. Oh, actually? I didn't know this. Okay, I thought you were being funny. No, no, it's a real story. Oh, really? She has like a hole in her neck from it.

What? Okay. See, I want that Jake kind of career. My Jersey Shore, like recently I just got a fake season to sis letter from Angelina on the show. Oh, was it fake? Yeah, she wrote it with Chad GPT. I had my lawyer break it all the way down and then I put it on my channel i was like hey look at this oh my god that's what i'm saying maybe the alex earl thing to the do we know them girls maybe it was something like that where it

was like that's what made me you know because why would she lie about that i feel like that'd be an easy thing to debunk and stuff like that but it is wild yeah did she so but also imagine i could totally see her like getting ready and be like oh i don't want to pay this fee for a legal letter chat gbt write this letter yeah I would do it for sure. I used to love sending cease and desist, but they really don't do anything, do they?

It's like people are like, eh, they just like laugh them off these days. And then if you want to go on the lawsuit, it's just like so much money. And so it's like. It's kind of the thing

that you don't want to reach out to drama channels. You don't want to give them the ammo. Like if you send me a cease and desist letter, it's going to end up on my channel. Yeah, I think I only sent one actually. I think I sent it to Gabby Hanna.

Gabby Hanna? Who did I send it to? No, I was going to say like a creator. Yeah, I think it was Gabby Hanna. Gabby Hanna? Who did I send it to? I was going to say like a creator. Yeah. I think it was Gabby maybe. And then she like laughed at it. That's so random. Because I feel like she's.

Yeah. I don't know why. You were like both like very. I feel like cease and desist usually is like one powerful person versus someone who's not. So like you're both. Yeah. I don't know what. Was it?

Do you? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I did. I don't know. I was weird back then. So I don't know. I hope she's doing well. I do was. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I did. I don't know. I was weird back then. So I hope she's doing well. I do, too.

I think she is. She looks like she's like living her best life on TikTok. She's not like that pink house anymore. Right. She like pink. She wasn't like a red house or pink house. What color was it? I think it was normal on the outside.

But the inside. Oh, inside. Yeah. In L.A. She moved back home. Oh, really? She moved back home. And she I think she's like very God based these days.

You know, stresses me out. Stresses back home. And she, I think she's, like, very God-based these days, you know? Stresses me out. Stresses me out, but good for her, you know? I know. She was, like, performing her best songs. And people were, like, vibing, you know? Oh, yeah, I saw that. She was, like, doing, yeah. So I live for it.

Because as someone who also has performed for, like, 20 people, it's, like, kind of a vibe. If you like performing, perform. You know what I mean? Yeah. I want to do live shows, but it's, like, I'm so scared because it's, like, oh, what if no one, like, comes, you know? Like, I think 2019 was my flop era, for sure, where nobody came um but I didn't mind I liked I mean your show and the Philly one was like there's a lot of people where was the Philly one Philly I don't

know did you not from oh so you drove I drove like three hours north from DC to get to this makes sense when you said Washington I thought like Washington state to California so you went from DC to there oh yeah um was it though I feel like it probably wasn't very crowded it was pretty crowded really yeah maybe that was the one that was my old videos okay like find the crowd shots because usually not um you know who's always at the beverly center um amanda binds always walking around have you said hi to her i'm not gonna say hi to her have you seen her uh-huh and you never said hi she has like a she's like a forever 21 bag all in one hand always she's someone i might actually go up to because i feel like she likes

it right i maybe but i also like i for me personally like i used to send like i actually sent her money like through her old twitter like persian princess or whatever that she's had for years and years what do you mean sent her money how like through cash app like whatever back in the day she would like post a cash app and you would just send her money um essentially she had like a really exclusive twitter that she like would put pictures of her ID and stuff on there to verify that it was her. Okay. And she would like,

that's where she wrote, exposed some of the Dan Schneider things, threw that quietly. And actually, one time I was at a Free Britney rally and one family friend of her family, Rick is her father, and he came up to me

and was like, hey, just so you know, I want you to know 100% that Twitter is hers. Like, I've gone to family dinners, we've sat there, we've talked about it, it's been a problem for them for years.

And then I actually, when I was, there was a point where I questioned whether the Cash App was actually her. And then one, this is so crazy. One person from Cash App that worked at Cash App reached out to me on Twitter and said that they will show me proof, but they will not send me pictures because they don't want me to, like, share it. Yeah. So they FaceTimed me and they FaceTimed me, showed me their work thing.

And you have to put, like, your social security in it for Cash App. So you can't, like, lie about that. Because, like so you can't like why about that because like it's like irs tax things like you know so um yeah i mean it confirmed that was her so you were saying and what would you get in return just her tweets no no no i would just send it like she'd be like i'm stranded right now like i wouldn't she wouldn't pay me for anything i never like we dm'd very briefly like we never really had a lot of conversations she would just be begging for money and i was like you know i'll just send her some money because i felt bad like covering her stuff on YouTube, like making money from it. Like, I don't ever want to be like, you know.

Oh, I see. So you were covering her stories. Yeah, covering it. Like, oh, that's nice of you. Especially like early on, like before, like the whole like wave of everyone talking about this. But I feel like she's scared of me because like I've brought so much to the forefront. Like even when I worked with the Quiet on Set documentary people, I helped them put

all their information together with with Amanda Bynes. Oh my gosh. Because they reached out to me like, hey, you made a video about this three years ago. Where did you get this information from? So I feel like- Oh, were you in it? What did they show you?

I was in there briefly, yeah. Like a little clip, yeah. But I just feel like a little, I feel like I can't go up to her because I feel like a little guilt to it. I don't know. I got like too close. I see.

It should be scared of me. Like, oh God, you're that creep that knows way too much about me. No, I know. I kind of get what you're saying. But, oh, God, you're that creep that, like, knows way too much about me. No, I know. I kind of get what you're saying. But she doesn't owe me anything. I was also just, like, it's just, it was just sad. It definitely, like, got at me because, like, Sam Lufty, for example, he would send me emails

of Amanda Bynes because he, Sam Lufty put Amanda Bynes in that conservatorship because she ran away to New York and then he was able to convince her to get on a plane. And, like, when the plane landed, they just escorted her to a facility and she thought that he was going to keep her safe from being locked up anywhere. And this is when she was not doing well, throwing the bong out the window in New York and such. Where did they take her? To a mental hospital?

How? Did she say she was going to hurt herself? How does that even happen? At some point, too, if their parents could... They could do the thing where they do Britney Spears where they say she's a flight risk. So the fact that she ran off to New York

already satisfies that. And they can just get it all done without her even really being present. Britney Spears where they say she's a flight risk. So the fact that she ran off to New York already like satisfies that. Oh my gosh. And they can just get it all done without her even like really being present. So it was so real. And he sent me like these screenshots and receipts and I'll expose them. But he's like, stop it. Like she deserved it. Britney didn't deserve it.

Amanda deserves to be in there. So like it just got, I got so wrapped up into it. And there's not a lot of reporting on it. Like not a lot of like solid fact like we have in Britney's case. Oh my God. And does that ever weigh heavy on you? Are you ever like. And there's not a lot of reporting on it. Like, not a lot of, like, solid fact, like, we have in Brittany's case. Oh, my God. And does that ever weigh heavy on you? Are you ever like, okay, this is a lot? Sometimes.

I mean, I think, like, the Drake Bell was probably the hardest on me just because, like, I have also similar, like, trauma that he has, too. So, like, and, you know, he's someone who went through that. And he's kind of, like, recycling it, too. Like, you know what happened with the girl later on. Like, and those things. So, I feel like that got at me a little bit more than like some other topics may.

Yeah. And then like, yeah, when you've gone through something similar, it's just like a lot harder to hear, which is like, yeah, that's why like the dart again, like those. What's better than a well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue

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might be like somewhat dark sometimes but i feel like it's there's something it's like giving power to something like in that situation like for me when i was a little kid like was going through this and felt so powerless and just like lost and like there's so many horrific things i probably i could talk about one day probably will never but. But that feeling, like, is just way too real. And, like, seeing Drake, like, kind of go through those motions. And, like, also seeing someone who, like, went through the abuse but then, like, did it to someone else. Like, it's such a tough place to be at, right? Because it's, like, do we, like, defend him or not?

Because he's also continuing it. No, and that's – but I think that's such a real conversation for people to have. Like, right? The cycle of it where it's, like, you can either break the cycle or you become a part of it and like a lot of victims just become the perpetrators right it just happens and i think that's like such an important thing to talk about what it is it is hard because like two things can totally be true right you can feel sad for him and also be upset with him and i think but i think that is like the scary part of people coming forward right like especially if you've been a

victim of any like childhood like essay or anything like that that's what i like you said the two things could be true at the same time like i think there's so many there's so many valid points to each side of it yeah nonetheless we have to hold them accountable or you're gonna be like we're an enabler you know yeah right it's a hard i know that stuff is always like super hard social media can be hard on people and it's just it makes it hard for people to come out and want to talk about things you know and i i admire drake for talking about it especially with someone like so just, like, it opened up your eyes about the industry, too, about, like, child stars and stuff. And especially, like, you know, Drake, Belle.

It's, like, you know. Now they're just going to AI them. Yeah. Just make them fake, right? Which they should, honestly. Maybe. When you hear all the horror stories about kids' stuff, it's, like, maybe just AI those kids, you know?

At this point, just AI everyone, right? Then should we even? Well, isn't that the, that's the. We're just all going to sit on the couch all day. Yeah. Just have robots bring us things. But isn't that the whole thing of why they did the strike was to, couch all day just have robots bring us things but isn't that the whole thing of why they did the strike

was to like avoid AI like taking over I mean it is that's interesting so I wonder what the because the ruling I thought was like kind of on the writers and the actors side

so I like wonder like are they gonna be with AI kids like you know I don't know maybe the kids I think for sure I always thought that with like you know

the IT movies and stuff I'm like oh my god those kids must be like traumatized although we had a child actor his name is Joshua Colley he was in Les Mis and I was asking him like did you feel the heaviness he's like no I'm like oh my god those kids must be like traumatized although we had a child actor his name is Joshua Colley he was in Les Mis and I was asking him like did you feel the heaviness

he's like no I was like living my best life I'd get shot I'm like eh and I'm like okay so maybe the kids but they act like they do like Dakota Fanning

when you saw her in like what was the movie Hide and Seek and I'm like oh my god she looks like she's like psychotic in there and it's like I wonder if she feels

she has to feel it right as an actor or maybe she doesn't maybe she's like I can just turn it on like this I don't know I totally get that because like especially

when you see the sets like you think of a movie but then you see the set and it's like this gigantic space with all these lights and people move around it's like how how do they even really get to that like you know I know I don't know if I could I don't know have you ever acted I used to do acting like when I was a kid but um I would totally get into it would you myself yeah but I feel like I'm at this point where like I'm kind of like it'd be like the Wendy Williams type where I have to act like myself you know it's kind of even Kim Kardashian I know she's like not a bad actress yeah but you just see kim like in everything she does you're like that looks like kim kardashian

you know which i guess she leans into but yeah i felt like that with the blake lively thing like the oh yeah that's just because like it she's such a character like i didn't actually know like i'm not like a great when it comes to movies and such but i didn't really wasn't familiar with like justin baldoni or anything before, didn't know any of them. But then, like, seeing her in that role, and, like, I think also the hindsight of, like, how she doesn't understand the importance of it,

just, like, totally killed the character. Yeah, right. I think that's the problem everyone had with her, right, is, like, not taking it, like, seriously. But Justin Baldoni did respond. Did you see that? He wrote a little statement on his,

but it wasn't really a response. Everyone was like, oh, he responded, but it really wasn't a response. It was just like, hey, Survivor, we're with you. And I was like, I like Justin Baldoni because I just started Jane the Virgin because of this scandal. Did you watch it? Have you ever seen it?

Jane the Virgin? Yeah. No. Okay. Well, we just started it. It's getting off Netflix. It's number fifth. So you're not going to be able to watch it much longer.

I know. But we started it. And I actually really loved Justin Baldoni on it. And then I did a deep dive on him. And I was like, oh, man, it's kind of interesting. But I do think, again, the two can be true, right? Two of them, like his accusations. Like there has to be a reason people unfollowed him, right?

Like why does the whole cast unfollow you? Yeah. That's so weird to me. Yeah. So I, Blake, obviously we see like. But then are they scared of Blake? That's why they don't challenge her. I don't, you know.

Yeah. I think that's the thing, right? So they're kind of powerful, right? Her and Ryan Reynolds. So it's like, okay. Especially the author probably was just like, oh, I want to make another movie. Let me go with them. But, um, it seems like he's pretty powerful too it seems like he directs and stuff

and has his own production company so i'm not really sure it is crazy that whole blake like people are like still talking about it they seem like they both want to move on but i feel like no one's really letting them yeah well blake you know i think it's gonna be a little bit longer you know because j-lo she had you know we watched the j-lo thing happen yeah and i feel like everyone's kind of tired of j-lo at this point like But then she's trying to get, like, Ben Affleck's money. Did you see? Like, she's, like, biting him over, like, fortune. What?

When she has double his net worth. Oh, wait. Why is she doing that? That's so weird. Just because she's bitter. Are you kidding? I think so. And, like, especially, like, do you see the stories last week?

Like, her PR team cooked up, like, I mean, her ring that he gave her said, like, I'll be with you forever or something ingrained into it. Okay. She did that, like, lily shake. Look what he said to me. Which like yeah it's like they're picking choosing like things from the past and now like push through tmz and those things to like make him look bad oh i see but like is he really a prize do you know what i mean like i wouldn't be better i'd be like honestly i could do better it's jayla i know everyone hates her but like who likes

ben affleck there's no like fans of him right no there's not like a stand group being like oh my god our poor ben it's like everyone's like no he's a mess and's no, like, fans of him, right? No, there's not, like, a stand group being like, oh, my God, our poor Ben. It's like, everyone's like, no, he's a mess. And he always looks like he was miserable. And he's, you know, all this stuff. And he looks like he got, you know, he looks like he's been through some shit. So I feel like, overall, it's like, we're not really loving Ben Affleck either.

He's kind of, you know, he sent those creepy messages to people on Tinder or whatever. And he's always been, like, allegedly a cheater. So I don't know. Do we love him? I can see him being a little entitled. Just kind of like, you know, he just. Oh, for sure.

He's his hot shit. I think all those Boston actors, right? Even, I know being a little entitled just kind of like oh for sure he's just hot I think all those Boston actors right even I know he's like loved like Matt Damon Mark Wahlberg like I think all those people are a little bit

those old school actors who just think they're like untouchable and I don't know I never really liked them so when I saw her I'm like I wouldn't be bitter about that

I'd be like bye I'd go back to like Mark Anthony or something you know like someone onto the next I like J-Lo for a minute I mean but

I like her too it's just like I guess it's like we are in that wave of like where if they seem inauthentic it's like she's so unrelatable. It's like I'd much rather see them like act like a Kardashian and just like give me the unrelatableness like I'd like, I want to see the lore. Yeah, that's actually so true. But it's like

weird we don't do this with like male celebrities, right? Do you ever think of like a male celebrity where people just like dogpile on them just for being like annoying in the media? No, they're. Right? It's only women. It it's like oh my god they're so annoying and i'm like guilty of it too i've really like clocked myself with my internal assagening because i'm just like yeah i kind of go hard for women i'm like oh my god they're so annoying but i feel like there's probably guys that are annoying too we just don't come for them you know what i mean like i don't think of someone who's annoying i know i'm trying to think too who's me loving

every male celebrity i'm like super annoying they're all great who is someone that's like annoying that people like don't like as like why did i think of jojo siwa she's not even a man like she's annoying though that's what i'm saying though there has to be like a male equivalent to jojo siwa that people all are like oh that person's annoying i guess maybe james charles but i guess people like him though too right true i mean he's like yeah right but i think universally people like oh my god he's so annoying but it's like i mean you kind of feel bad you're kind oh my God, he's so annoying. But it's like, I mean, you kind of feel bad. You're kind of like, well, okay, he's just like living his life. But I was at a party, a skincare brand party. And I sat next to him at this table.

It was like, because the CEO, for whatever reason, just loves me. She's like, yeah, sit at this table with the most important people. I'm like, oh, so I'm sitting next to him. Well, he nonstop was talking about his BBL, which like, no surprise. Oh my God, is that out there? He just outed him as a BBL person? I mean, if not, like 70 other other people heard it that day, too. But he asked me, he was like, oh, so what do you do on the internet?

I was like, I expose predators. And then he was like, the face he gave me. What did he do? He's just like, bye, I'm not talking to you anymore? No, he was like, oh, oh. And I was like, don't worry, I haven't talked about you. Did he do that? Yeah, he was shocked.

He was, like, taken back. He was, oh my god, I love it. It was, like, two summers ago, so he was still a little bit fresh. Oh, no. And that's, like, when he had the article where he's like i want to be uncancelled i think that's the problem i think when you're like trying to get uncancelled it's like okay well you were cancelled and like rightfully so like on that cancellation you know what i mean like you can't like ask people to like forget it it's like some people won't you know what i mean and to ask for it seems like a little entitled to be like please uncancel me

it's like i'm scared to get cancelled i feel like this is like probably the closest i have gotten to cancellation whatever i'm doing here today like there's gonna be like half of me which is like it is crazy but I don't know like I do watch your content I feel like this is like you but I just like love that you like don't care either I'm someone who always is like watching like okay what did I say what is this I have to like watch it back you know what I mean but you're just like oh I don't care I don't I also just feel like I'm like operating in good faith and like even when you mess with me like oh we can cut parts out I'm like I'm never cut like don't cut

I love that. Say it with your chest yeah exactly it's so frustrating I guess it's like you know again I respect it but like you know when people share so much and spill the tea and I'm like oh my god this is so good but then like can you cut all this part out I was like no that was so good or they get vulnerable I get it like after the fact

sometimes they don't get what this means so it's like I have to go to my editor have them do this part i was like no that was so good or they get vulnerable i get it like oh for sure that yeah sometimes they don't get what this means so it's like so now i have to go to my editor have them do all these things and it's like we got a timeline yeah but suddenly today i was like um just clock it now if you might want something you want out because it's like we send it to the editor and then it's like up the next day yeah but you guys know obviously you post so when you film are you filming that day and posting that night no sometimes i'll post a video like two months like after two months i've had it sitting like i, you do? Yeah, I'll post, I probably post like a week, or no, I probably

upload, or no, what am I trying to say? I film like ten videos a week, upload seven. So I'll have three just sitting and I'll sometimes do a double post day. Whoa. I'll have videos sitting for a while. Like a Kanye one I just posted, I had it like for two weeks. And it's still as well? Yeah. Yeah, I think like a lot of it too is just like the framing of it. I mean, you get it.

Like the titles, like the thumbnails and things like that. And who does it? You have someone that does that for you? No, I do all like that part. Like I'm particular about the titles, the thumbnails, all that. They do my editing and they help with the research. It's like a lot of times I just text them throughout the day. I like harass them.

I'm like, hey, let's make a video about this. Like this would be a good story. Let's get on that. No, but the titles and thumbnails, I think, make all the difference because I've been on YouTube for what, like 18 years and I've never had a title or thumbnail ever. I'm always just put like eating chicken or whatever. And I'm like, you know, but then once we started doing this and our titles and thumbnails were so good, I was like, oh my God, it makes such a difference too.

I've noticed that with your friend Manny's podcast too. I feel like all of a sudden their thumbnails and titles started looking different. I was like, oh wow, they're getting like more engagement, right? And it's not for anything, right? Like, but it does make a difference to have that good thumbnail. Because their thumbnails now, they had Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively, but it looked like they were on the podcast. And I was like, oh my God, they got them on the podcast?

That's like so smart, you know? So I do think it makes sense. Like, Philip DeFranco always had those like iconic like thumbnails that people would like click on, you know? And I think that's, and yours too, really makes a difference. So I guess advice to people out there that's doing a podcast, have those good titles and thumbnails. Well, SEO too.

All about SEO. Because like, no one's going to look at a video about me. Search engine optimization. So essentially like, I've built my name off of other people's names. Like let's just be frank because I, when I put my tags, I do like the most popular tags in that moment. And that's why my video becomes recommended. And that's like how I get new audience.

Wait, why do you put your name? Do we do this? Are we putting our names in tags? No, you should definitely not. You would never want to put your name in tags. Wait, why? Because that's a waste of a tag space. You only get six tag spots. Where's the tag? I thought they took the tags off. No, tags are in not. You would never want to put your name in a tag. Wait, why? Because that's a waste of a tag space. You only get six tag spots.

Where's the tag? I thought they took the tags off. No, tags are in the very bottom of the... Are we tagging? Should we tag people's names? No, I was always saying that, but I thought you wouldn't do it. Yeah, you want to do like five to... I wouldn't do more than seven tags.

But is it bad if you tag someone and can't people see it? No, no, no. It's not a tag. It's like a hashtag. So it's essentially... Let's say I put an article out there about Honey Nut Cheerios i would tag honey nut cheerios cereal like morning breakfast and then if i google morning breakfast then that article about the honey nut cheerios will show up because it's tagged that this seo search engine optimization so it's tagged that video so if i make a video

sometimes i'll make one about um like something irrelevant but i'll tag a kardashian in the tags and because they're so highly looked up that it will just kind of fall into that algorithm of being recommended that's so interesting are we doing this or no we will now that you're interested but this is why would we not at the beginning why would we not do it it doesn't it's not like a dude it's not gonna like hurt as badly as like it's not gonna hurt you if you're not tagging because then it's just going to pull you into an algorithm no matter what but like let's say if someone's looking at the blake lively stuff your video might end up being on top when it and when if you didn't tag it would be like fifth or six yeah you're so smart when you were here the last time to your time about all the ad plays and

stuff like oh my god you're so smart like i never never placed an ad in my life before this like i had no idea and then like we finally like figured it out but no clue yeah it makes a difference you weren't so smart You should do a class. You should do a master class on it. And I've gotten offers for that, but I'm like, no, those are scams. I'm like, no one will be like, I always say it's part of luck too. You can't just teach someone to become a YouTuber. Like you have to have somewhat of like a technical like desire to like, you have to like know

how to edit or at least like to do it. That makes such a big difference because I've never edited videos to it again. I think having an edited format and like thumbnails and all that oh my god now it feels like because it's like i was always talking about this stuff like in my car but no one cared you know it's like with lights and production and this and then people like okay this is like looks better and so people want to like which is so true now with youtube you really have to have like production behind you but also the master class thing i feel like the one part that's missing too is like the crucial part people are looking at my stuff because i'm talking about other people so it's like someone comes to me they want to be a lifestyle youtuber it's like

well no one wants to watch my life either so like how am i doing i think you could apply to that right like you're doing the search engine you're doing like a great like i think great thumbnails really are like the you know the way people click on stuff i want to get better at that be like if i go to like a premiere event like vlog a little bit and be like this happened here you know i'm going to a lot of premieres yeah actually you know um you invited beetlejuice in italy you're like i was supposed to be at that one i actually met brooke at twisters i was on the red carpet or i think it was like blue carpet or something but we actually were talking there and i was there that second alissa texted her like um about what she said about on your podcast because she was right next to me talking with

christy oh my gosh she was like oh my god alissa just texted me and then she started reading it it was the same one she read like two weeks later on the show. She was like, oh my God, Alyssa just texted me and then she started reading it. Oh, it was like tea. It was the same one she read like two weeks later on the show and I was like, oh, I was there in that moment. You're like,

I was there in that moment. Oh my God. Okay, so you guys know Brooke too? You like know her? Well, just met her on the red carpet at the museum.

Oh my God. I was like a fan. Like, I'm actually not that shy when it comes to like saying hi to people. Like she, I would go up to.

Like Amanda Bynes, I'd be scared of. But like Brooke, I'm like, I feel like I kind of know her like seeing her like through the. Well, I think influencers in general,

people are just like know more because they share so much of their life. So it is like, okay, I'm just going to go up because I know them. But like Brooke, I'm like, I feel like I kind of know her like seeing her like through the. Well, I think influencers in general, people are just like no more because they share so much of their life. So it is like, okay, I'm just going to go up because I know them. But I think, yeah, celebrities, they seem a little more like unattainable because they're just like, okay, we don't know like what you're feeling with this. Because they're just not out there like influencers are. Influencers share every little thing and, you know, all that stuff like that. But did you like Twisters?

I actually did. And I'm like not that big of like a movie person. But. What do you like to do you don't like movies you don't like musicals that's my whole life so movies um i definitely i work a lot like i'm constantly working like i so that never turns off and then definitely social time i i like get really lonely really even with a boyfriend oh without wait if he's not there i get super lonely wait are you guys living together no we don't live together that'll probably not happen for a while um because i just bought a condo and

even though i have three bedrooms i'm like it's not big enough for you to be to live in here you're so mean even this house like should we get another house because i feel like i don't have room for myself yeah i feel like i'm just like cluttered and i'm like such a hoarder i'm like i need to keep my stuff too yeah because you never know you just never know when you're gonna need something right i'll get that one t-shirt from like six years ago like we'll come back in the style i've been getting rid of so much stuff and then i immediately regret it i was like god i wish i still had that and my mom be like i sold it on plush market i was like ah you know but you have to make room for the new stuff yeah so you're just i work out like i like to work out i like to go out on like we ho like

i definitely love like i feel so happy to be like a gay man and like able to live in west hollywood because like little sloan would have never imagined like I can go like see drag queens that are like my friends and like get to know these people. So I actually go out like pretty often and like not even like drink because I live like, you know where like all the bars are. I live like right there. Like I live a block away. Oh my God.

You walk. I can see the bars from like my condo. Yeah. So I can like go out on like a Tuesday night, go out for like, you know, from eight to nine and then just be back at home. Like what do you do? Go dance or? Yeah. You know, like a smoke a little weed and then go dance say hi my friends like I love that I'm a lot of friends too like a lot of people come up to me

like from social media and like I've made a lot of some of my best friends just from people coming up to me at the club really yeah and then we like talk like normal people and you're the real life pink pony club you went from Virginia to West Hollywood I know I love that they um have that lyric in the song because I'm like yes yes, put West Hollywood on the map. Right? No, for sure. West Hollywood is like the mecca, right? It's like just so fun.

I used to love West Hollywood too. I had like a phase in West Hollywood and I was like, it's just fun because it is just like fun dancing music and like there's nothing too serious happening there. You know what I mean? I mean, there's like drama or whatever, but it's like nothing too serious. I know. Everyone says like the Abbey drugs everyone, which I, okay, I've seen. What?

Really? I've seen it on like TikTok where like this bar, like everyone's getting getting drugged at the abby but i was even talking to my friends about this recently we've been going out for years i don't know i'm sure someone has been drugged at the abby but like yeah no one you did wait what do you want to come share your story or no come here you come here too um yes the abby does drug people me and my three like two friends and we went out with their boyfriends we went to the abbey and we all ordered the same drink i was like this drink is disgusting i feel sick like just at at the thought of this drink and my one friend was meeting this guy for the first time so she was like i'm

gonna drink it all and literally blacked out she did not remember remember. It was like, and she can drink heavy. Like she could have multiple drinks and be fine. And I'm the lightweight. And she had one drink and then had some of mine and was done. She was like trying to like run into the streets. I was like, no, no, no. You need to come back here right now. Was it the boy or the bartender?

Do you think? It was definitely the bartender. Really? Which is so weird to me. Cause like, also like, aren't gay men supposed to be working at a gay club? Like, why does he want a girl? Like, why are so weird to me because like also like aren't gay men supposed to be working on the gay club like why does he want a girl like why are you trying to drug a girl i don't know i hear that i mean i hear so many stories about the abbey and it just feels like they're bored and they want to they must go after the straights their night by

like drugging people but i also hear that people get robbed or stolen like yeah so things will get stolen from you when you're black got his phone stolen there and he was roofied there too. Oh my God. I'm thinking like maybe they're like roofying people and then grabbing their phones. For a phone? I don't know. I feel like they're bored. I mean, they can run your tab.

They can do a lot of things once you're not. It's true. I guess if you have a tab open, like they just, they have your card and. Have you been back since? No. Well, yeah. When did we go? Yeah. I'm like, they have your card and. Have you been back since? No. Well, yeah. Wait, when did we go? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm like, girl, we went like. We did go. We did go. But I'm not, like, really drinking there since. Yeah. I just get a weird vibe. No, I can understand that. And everyone says it's unsafe.

I go during the day. I like, I like to go at, like, six o'clock. Oh, yeah. We were there during the day. Really? It was, we were there during the day and it was basically empty. Yeah, we went to Craig's and then we went there after for a drink. Oh, Craig's is nice.

And, yeah. Oh, my God. You are, like, the influencer. You are the influencer of life. She, yeah, she's, like, way more than me, too. She's, like, over here going to Playlist Live and, like, things like that. Oh, my gosh. Breaking into it.

Does it show on your face? Have you, like, gotten more, like, perks and stuff like that? Are people like, oh, my God, you're a spill slash? I feel, I mean. Well, you're putting yourself out there more. Yeah, I, i like started going to stuff more now do you like it yeah i think it's fun like i went to twisters with him and yeah we talked to broke together and like attending events did you get getty image are

you guys on getty image yeah i got like two pictures yeah i have a couple like thank god i haven't been on one since like 2017 and i'm gonna go to these events to get that's why it's not and it's not like every event that we'll have it to. It's like weird, obscure events that we'll have it. Oh my God. Did you save the picture? Yeah, I saved the picture. Of course.

That's everything. That's so iconic. I need to do that. I hate all of them though. I'm like, gosh, you know. Wait, really? I don't look right. I'm from far away.

I'm like, it's good enough. I'm always so scared of what the picture is going to look like. Wait, why did you decide to show your face i think i just wanted to do more things and i was i felt like i could only really do more if i showed my face yeah yeah i thought it was morgan i thought you were morgan for example everyone thought i was morgan i introduced her to morgan we're actually at a party i was like yeah she was still anonymous and we met morgan and what did you do and we told her about it and she was like really sweet and she followed she was great you guys had a good conversation yeah she like followed my personal instagram so when i like posted the video finally

she was like happy to like have people think that i was you all this time but how did you get all the tea because i thought it was her because she like you knew so much you get so much tea I think I just was chronically online just like followed every account ever yeah you're putting you put stuff together so good like you're so investigative I think I like sit there with all the information in my notes and then I'm like okay how do I make a story out of this and I never wanted to come off as like bs or just like something stupid that I made up I'm like, this person said this thing on this day. And then they said this recently. It's like a puzzle. And she does it all laying in bed too. She'll like lay with the mic going like, she's just like, like working like that. I'm like,

how smart about being anonymous though is like you having the microphone, you know, you can just do it whenever it is. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I don't want anyone to, I don't know. It made it so much easier. Cause I'd be like emergency right now. No one cares what I look like yeah i was like i don't want anyone to i don't know it made it so much easier because i'd be like emergency right now no one cares what i look like i don't have to do my makeup yeah but even last night right when cancel posted four minutes like four minutes ago they posted i was like damn girl yeah on it she was saying screenshots to me because i kept like calling her i was like oh they're gonna post episode today we're gonna watch it before that notifications on and like I do now but also a lot of it is my friends are also online so they'll text me about something like thank god

like someone texted me Hayley and Justin have their baby I'm like oh my god I'm at a Dodgers game oh my and you're no longer with TMZ no they're probably like damn we need you back who's the one Charlie Neff she's on TikTok oh yeah yeah yeah she's like on it she's like oh she's been there forever she texts me like whenever things happen she's like can you talk about this i'm like i don't know who you are i don't know how you got my number oh my god that's crazy i thought it was a guy actually at first because of charlie i thought it was a guy and then when i saw it on tiktok i was like oh that's the person i always text yeah yeah she's cute no for sure that was that's a whole allure of my tmz. I need to know, I need to know the deep dive.

She's like, in reality, she's like collecting photos for the galleries and stuff. I feel like the most boring thing ever. It sounds way worse when it's like, she used to be a TMZ, it makes sense now. I know, because everyone was like, oh my God, that's how you like start. I'm like, no, no, no. I was like, I just sat at the computer all day and scrolled Instagram. And then I would just watch YouTube videos like on my other computer. Oh my God.

You know, like the holiday albums are like, oh, look at the Thanksgiving of all the celebrities. And like, there'll be like screen like pictures. But it was also kind of like degrading a bit because the website caters to men. So a lot of the stuff that we would collect would be like babes in bikinis, like red, white and blue, happy, like happy 4th of July or stuff like that. I don't know. I think they have like male audience, I Why does he see K-Men? I don't know. I think they have, like, male audience, I guess. I did not know that.

I would never know. Yeah. That's so wild. It's kind of crazy. They kind of give, like, locker room vibes. Like, with how the setup even is, too, where everyone's just kind of bouncing around sharing their opinion. I can still, like, on the show.

Yeah. It is that way. It's got a bro-ish, like, aspect to it. Yeah, I feel bad. I'm like... No, no, it's so good. I know. No, it's so interesting.

And what are you guys doing together? You guys are doing the podcast. We are. We're doing a little something together. I'm like, I want her to say it because I don't know what I'm allowed to say. We're going to come out because we can wait too. We don't know when it's going to come out. Essentially, I mean, it's something that we've like.

Sloane and I are working on a little secret project together. We got an LLC. We got a bank account. We got a studio built. A little show of sorts. What? We won't say the name of it but something is coming very soon it's been like way too long i know i just saw the picture last night of when we came up

with the name of it it was in january yeah and we built a whole set in my garage yeah i'll show you the picture yeah you can tell me after one yeah yeah yeah yeah it's so exciting that's so smart we're like kind of just hoping that it's another like venture in the same pop culture space but

where we go to premieres and like interview people like we would live for that that's like really like red carpet imagine us like on the red carpet interviewing the people

I want to know too I'm gonna be I think you just gotta show up with a camera at some point okay so I used to do that stuff but like while I was at TMZ

but also before I used to freelance do the interviews on was at TMZ, but also before. I used to freelance do the interviews on the red carpet. It would just be this one lady that I met through someone, and she would send me on location to go and do those interviews. I'd be like, no money was free. It was just mostly for my reel. Who's someone you interviewed?

Anyone cool you interviewed? I meet Victoria Justice, a lot of the Disney Channel people. I almost interviewed JoJo once, but then she had to leave. Her publicist was like, no, no, she's got to go. It was at the Kids' Choice Awards, which at the time, it was like a big deal for me to be at the Kids' Choice Awards. I was like, oh, my God, I watched Nickelodeon as a kid. Yeah. Before all the bad stuff came out.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Wait, are you like around his age or my age or younger you're i'm 27 okay i don't want to we're like two years like two years different three years yeah okay so yeah it was still unproblematic but i mean all the people that did the red carpet stuff back then like i still see them like when we go to events today and a lot of them just do it for fun like they have a website that's like really old like the videos don't get a lot of views but they just have like a website and something about that like like having an entity like if we go together with an entity some some of these places like

all these events all the same people go and they do the interviews it's like obviously e-news and et and then at the end they're all the same people. And no one's really watching those videos. But I'm like, how do they do it? How do they get these invites? I guess it's because they're really positive. But I'm like, I don't know. Well, if they figure it out, let me know.

I will also go. That's like my whole dream. But I'm like, how do they get those stuff? I don't know. I know. I don't either. I think it's a website. I think all those people have like a dot com.

And then when you apply to go to these premieres they always want a website yeah it's like they don't really care about the following on instagram or youtube or anything like that it's all about the website that's so it's it's so old school it's so old school yeah oh man i know that the whole mentality like you need a website is like crazy to me yeah that's my that's my hollywood insider oh my gosh no i live oh my god well i love that i need to know all the lore of you thanks that's update from christy exclusive from christy at the yes i love it okay no i want to do that first of all i'm so excited for you guys i really like want to know now but i think that's gonna be i'm excited too especially because

like it's so hard to find like real people like even when you're saying like earlier like messing with drama channels like i mean i just feel like a lot of people are just not authentic or have conversations. Like, I met a lot of, like, influential people and, like, we just don't click. But me and her are, like, real life. Like, we travel together. We, like, hang out. Oh, my gosh. We're calling each other every day.

I know all of her, like, boy drama. She knows all of my life. I didn't know this. I didn't know this. That's, like, my best friend. So it's the best, yeah, relationship. And you guys are, like, joint for it. Like, that's, like, so cool when you're actual friends because I think, like, when people

collab with people, right, they do it because they're both popular or whatever and they're not like actual and I think that's what's with my head right for so long like you think and granted I have to say the collab is a friendship but it's like just a collab right yeah right I've been like friends with influencers and you just like never know if it's like for and like granted I've never been as popular as the people I've collabed with right like Shane was always popular and Jeffrey and David. They're always like more popular than me. So you just never know. But then I always thought we had like real friendships.

And then you're like, oh, maybe we didn't, you know? And that's what always like your head. So the fact that you guys are actual friends and it's not about – because you guys never created content together, right? No. I had her on my podcast and such. But we've never like done content in this way. And we're going like full running, which it's just great because I like know her.

Like we went to London together. Like we booked a trip like we were in May we just I booked it the day before I was like hey I'm going to miss our business meeting this week I'm going to go to London

because my boyfriend had like show production I was like I want to go go away because I just can't be alone so I called her

and she was like wait why are you moving to this meeting and I was like I'm going to go to London she's like let me go and I was like come on

I got the hotel just buy your ticket and we went together and like you guys stayed in the same hotel room? Same hotel room. I love.

Had no windows. No windows in the hotel room. Wait, why? So we were, like, in London. Oh, my God. It's 3 o'clock. We don't know what time it is. It sounds like an insane asylum or something like that.

Like, why would you have no windows? I know, right? I was like, yes, the rules are a little bit different out there. London's wild. I like London. I think it's, like, a cute vibe. But did you, like, go – how many times have you gone? Just, like, once for the Big Brother or what?

I went once to see Michael Jackson in 2001. And then I went again. Yeah, for Celebrity Big Brother. I think those are the only two times. But it's just a different vibe over there. But shout out to my Brits. I love Bridgerton. So like I'm really back into like the British culture.

You know what I mean? I'm like, I'm back. And I love, I always talk about him. But Jonathan Bailey is like my favorite person in the whole world. So he's British. So then I'm joining the British bandwagon. You know what I mean? So I like, so you don't have any obsessions you don't obsess over anybody

anything any stories um no I definitely have obsessed I'm obsessed with cleaning if you saw my place I'm so crazy clean no I think it's like I'm a control freak so it's like one of the only it's like one of the only things I could have control over in my life you know really well not only but you know I mean I think especially in the influencer world too you don't like a lot of things are like you just put it out there so i think i like i since i've gotten more popular i've gotten a little bit crazier when it comes to eating and cleaning like i'm very controlled because it's like those are where i feel like i can you know have that power that's usually the places right when they talk about eating disorders is like people want to feel like some sense of control in their life which is like yeah i guess that

makes sense that That's cleaning. But cleaning is a good thing to be. I'm the opposite. I like can't, I don't know. I don't even know how to clean. I don't know. Like, I feel like I'm out of breath cleaning. My daughter loves cleaning mouths, but she's a Virgo and she like cleans all the time.

We just got her like brooms as like a toy, like this little broom thing. And she like mops our house and wash. It's like crazy. She's not even two years old and she like loves to clean. And if something's dirty, she's like dirty, new one. Like she's like very that. And I'm like, how did she learn that? Because it's like, we're not like dirty, but it's just like at the same time, she's like so clean one like she's like very that and i'm like how did she learn that because it's like we're not like dirty but it's just like at the

same time she's like so clean and i'm like i guess it's just in you it's like you know i don't know when you're gay it's just like it's just you're born with it you know literally yeah wait speaking of your um your daughters were like so adorable cute but i like every time i see elvis like she literally looks like mel right like is it is that as i feel like they look a little bit different like twins like even like do they have like a slight like birthmark like here

yes they have the birthmark there does that just go away over time it does like Malibu doesn't have that now right

yeah it stretches and I actually had it too when I was like little and I kind of have it sometimes in like heat

you can see it but it like stretches out over time so like it's yeah it's like a little I guess they call

them stork bites or whatever but they look like so much alike same birthmark they're like twins

every time we see pictures at the same time we're kind of shocked yeah the lashes the eyes the eye color is identical and i was like okay they both have her eye color which is like you know weird genetic like were they gonna be twins but then like one just like you know i really feel that because you know are you the only person or something do you have other blue-eyed people in your family um my dad but my sister and my mom

have like dark brown eye and dark right everyone in my family has different eyes my mom has blue eyes obviously and like me but like my sister has green mom have like dark brown eye and dark brown hair. Everyone in my family has different eyes. My mom has blue eyes, obviously, and like me. But like my sister has green eyes. My brother has brown. My dad has brown. But like they both have the exact same blue eyes as me. And I was like, how? Like that's not really like that. And then they have his exact eyelashes.

Like they look identical and it is crazy. And I always think about that. I'm like, if we have a third baby, are they going to just look exactly the same? Yeah. Because we were like determined. I was going to look so different. I'm like, oh, she's going to have like different features, different this. And like just the exact.

It's like copy paste. Yeah, literally. It is like a weird thing so i was just like i don't know yeah maybe they're meant to be twins you know like yeah maybe you're supposed to and then like yes do you believe in those like past lives uh i think so in some way like i because i definitely feel like there are certain lessons like i even experienced myself like like where um but also is that just me like my trauma is that just like me coping my trauma maybe so there could be um but i guess like my friend told me like when it comes to you know the numbers like you're like a number i guess out of 10 and like on like what stage you are in your life like a 10 is like the best like you're about to like move on to the next realm and like a lot of like celebrities or

like influential people are like a 10 but i was like a one wait and then they die is that what you're saying no like they're i guess their souls like release like it's like the like almost like the end of like reincarnation you're like karmic yeah wait so like if i'm the happiest i've ever been right now i'm a 10 am i like gonna die no no you're like your number is already determined like before you're like it's like when you're born like they do a calculation with like your date year and like oh yeah i think it's for like an anagram yeah and like it's like a formula like it put your birthday is like um what is your how are you a one then they just did the math of like 1994 minus this plus this I think it's called like an anagram. Yeah. And like it's like a formula. Like your birthday is like May 1st. How are you a 1 then?

They just did the math of like 1994 minus this plus this equals. And then that's your life number. Oh, I see. I'll look it up for you later. Okay. I don't know if I want to know because then I know if I'm going to die soon or something like that. No, it's not dying. It's more like.

Oh. Next life. It's more like let's say you're a 1. You're going to be reincarnated. Like, you know, you said past life. As another 1. Yeah. You know, you'll be a 2.

Oh, you go up? And then you'll be like a 3. So if you're a ten, then what? You go back down to being one? No, then you're done. Oh, there's only ten lives. And then you're like at peace. Okay, it's like a cat.

Yeah. And then like nine lives with ten. Okay. I guess so. I like that. I like that idea. I think I was in a past life for sure. Well, I think so too.

I mean, seeing you like. We know each other somehow. No, I just like. Oh, me. Yeah, your D-day or whatever like video what's the one where you're like in war i don't know i thought d-day was world war ii and i was like i don't know anything about that i thought you were mimic like redoing the d-day thing because

maybe they were doing that i think they were doing d-day or something the way you embody that character i'm just like she's been there before like that's a past life coming out right now there's so many past lives i get from you like just looking at you i get so i don't know there's like something there's so many people that come to my mind when i look at you it's like weird it's like all embodied in one you definitely have like something you definitely you can be also like sabrina carpenter vibes a little bit do people tell you look like her sometimes i feel like you could be her for halloween or something like that i did put this weird like concealer under my eyes because i feel like you could be her for Halloween or something like that. I did put this weird like concealer under my eyes

because I feel like I looked tired and maybe that's it looks kind of red or orange. What time did you you said you got up at nine? I went to bed I went to bed at like

ten last night and got up at five. Okay. Yeah. Oh you go work out in the morning? Is that what you do? No no.

Not before today. No I was like this is all I'm doing. Oh my god I love it. I know I got up early too. I get up and like glam. It's like I'm like 5am too.

It's like a whole thing. Wait so you won't go home and film a video? Today? I don't know maybe I will but I already have videos already pre-filmed. Like after this I literally go and like glam it's like it might like 5 a.m too it's like yeah wait so you won't go home and film a video today i don't know maybe i will but i already have videos like pre-film like after this i literally go and like i'm like okay what can i all film in like one day because i only do my hair and makeup like twice a week and i'm like what can i film in like these two days i don't care what i look like on camera at all i will roll up and i have the filter on and i'm just like i i love it but you don't even look like it like you look like you're doing your

things you said that and i was like you look like it just blurs my skin a little makes my teeth a little whiter like eyes a little brighter a little vibe i like it it you look like you do in your things you said that and i was like you look like it just blurs my skin a little makes my teeth a little whiter like eyes a little brighter a little vibe i like it it looks so good though everything looks i mean in person you look like a filter for real thank you you do too it's like hard like looking at you because like i've seen you for so many years that it's like to hear your voice in person you know it sounds the same but it's different like yeah i feel that way too i feel that way like even seeing you guys too it's always like it's just weird in general to like see people in person because you're like oh my god this is like such a weird i always do that even, see people in person because you're, like, oh, my God, this is, like, such a weird thing.

I always see that. Even at Beetlejuice, we saw, like, just influencers, like, random TikTokers, like, I don't know, just people maybe people want to know, but I would see them, like, oh, my God, it's so weird to see them in person, you know, because you see them on TikTok. But let me tell you, everybody looks a little different. Not in a bad way, but everyone definitely puts on their best, like, angle or whatever on TikTok, and then you see them, and everyone looks a little different. But then people are always shook.

They're, like, that doesn't look like them. I'm, like, well, yeah, because there's filters. Even on TikTok, there's filters and all that doesn't look like them i'm like well yeah because there's filters even on tiktok there's filters and all that actually like i usually get um good feedback people are like you look way better in person i'm like thank god because they like i used to have like kind of a swollen looking face i swear i don't know what it was but i just looked like overweight so they didn't see me in person like wow you're so fit most people are smaller in person but i don't know i yeah people just always look a little different bigger smaller taller all that stuff like that was Katy Perry like really small she was tall but tiny yeah she was pretty

tall we saw her right you saw her so I saw her live like on stage she was so small I was like oh I couldn't help but stare at her body I was like okay you're so tiny and as someone who's never been tiny whenever I see a tiny girl like my initial thing to tell people is you're so tiny and I know you're not supposed to say that anymore like you're not supposed to comment on people's appearance but I always say it as a compliment because like I grew thing to tell people is you're so tiny and i know you're not supposed to say that anymore like not supposed to comment on people's appearance but i always say it as a compliment because like i grew up in an age where like tiny was a compliment but now people like i get triggered by it so like i try not to say it but she was tiny but she lived for it i was like you're tiny she was girl i know i did like she was like telling me all her secrets and i was like

okay yeah yeah i mean i i still like is skinny bad i mean i loved anything skinny i think you can't call people skinny anymore but like you know like cheesecake factory is like their skinny burger like their skinny licious menu. Like their skinnylicious menu. I love their skinnylicious menu. Me too. They have that chicken pasta for like 595 calories. And I like love it so much. So is that not offensive, I guess?

When there's skinny food? They should. They should get canceled. Honestly, let's cancel Cheesecake Factory because skinny is offensive now. I'm surprised that Demi Lovato hasn't come for them yet. Right? Is she the one that's like? I know.

I know. I was trying to defend her in a couple episodes ago. I was kind of like, oh, I kind of live that. I kind of understand her fro-yo rant. And everyone's like, no, that's not it. She was wrong. I was like, I like Demi. I to defend her in a couple episodes ago. I was kind of like, oh, I kind of live that. I kind of understand her fro-yo rant. And everyone's like, no, that's not it. She was wrong. I was like, I like Demi. I'm kind of a fan of hers now.

She was like giving the J-Lo Blake before. Yeah. You know, it's popular. That's what I'm saying. There's always that like group of like girls that get hate for like whatever. And like Blake was like a little bit, you know, it's hard in the press. But then I kind of feel bad for her too. I'm kind of like, well, you know.

I do too. Like, I mean, I think that there's like, that's why there's two sides to everything. Like, I think we can acknowledge her being like so like just bad bad takes bad everything but also like i can't imagine what that feels like you know like celebrity or not even if she thinks she's like the hottest like no to get all that hate and to be like i think she's trying to do and you know when you constantly like i see the clips of her being like me me me me me sometimes people don't know they're doing that so in a way it's like it's good she's getting called out because maybe she doesn't know maybe she's like unaware that she always talks about

herself i was like that for so long too where it's like me just saying me again but like you know you just like okay you make everything about yourself and sometimes you're not like aware that you're doing it you know what i mean and i don't know i'm sure i think what did i think justin baldoni said like she'll probably direct the next one he's like are you directing the next one he's like no i think blake's gonna do that like oh yikes which i don't know have you seen the movie yeah you like it yeah i mean it's like i mean not really actually no it was so triggering i was like so triggered i was like i was in a like a db kind of situation like a couple years ago and like it definitely it's so interesting when you're not in that situation like what it feels

like because i can stand on my youtube channel and tell like everyone all day like don't allow that to happen like expose these like harmful people but when you're in it even me I try to think myself very strong like it's it's freaky it's like that almost like it's like imposter syndrome in a different way you know it's like we're Stockholm syndrome where you just feel like I didn't couldn't realize in the moment that I was like being I mean I did realize I was being hit around but you know he was so manipulative and convincing so that kind of all that stuff really triggers me it's like hard for me to so when you watch it in film it's not because i asked it makes me actually physically sick that's what i at least that's what i was wondering right like um why why do they make movies like this like what's the point well it's all it's also kind

of like how i do well on social media like it's evoking emotion like whether it's good bad or whatever it's emotion we all want to feel something so to like have something that could take you to that point just by watching a screen i think it's like that's why i always say my youtube video like no one wants to hear about like you know i mean like we love to see like olivia rodrigo with her boyfriend smiling out and about but like yeah but that's not that's not going to lead someone to go and like watch it because it's not going to evoke that i see that makes sense because like so many people have talked about it where it's like i don't want to watch that either on film but i'm like like, wow, everyone's talking about it. Maybe I should go see it.

Honestly, I need better. I need to better like avoiding that stuff because it's just like it's. Triggered you. Yeah, it is like triggering. And I like usually feel like I'm good at like disconnecting from those kind of things like from content or like actually maybe not because I think every time I see a dog dying on TikTok, I'm sobbing. Once I was like my dog died.

You don't really you don't really care about animals though, right? First of all, yes, I do. Oh my God. It's so true. They died. And I know like when losing a pet. Wait, what happened? When did your dog pass away?

No, no, no. My dog died. Just anyone's dog. Oh, oh, oh. No. I was going to say like I need to get better at just disconnecting that emotional aspect because I do get that easily influenced, you know? Same.

Even if I don't experience like obviously I'm not like a dog person, but it's like I still get sad when people's dog dies. You know, especially like, so I have to skip past that stuff too on TikTok or anything. Like anything with, you know, a dog missing its arm or anything. I'm just like I can't watch it. Oh my gosh. Not missing an arm. Yeah.

No. And then like even like kid stuff. Like, you know, it's really sad if there's like loss. I have to – so I appreciate trigger warnings because like it is like I – it's hard for me to deal with. And I'm not even like that close with pets. But something like this where you are close and you've experienced it, I couldn't imagine. Like for me personally, my trigger is more like movies. one with jenna ortega about like a teacher

like a college teacher that was like and those are like yes she's college age but like that triggers me more and i feel like i'm like why do we keep making movies like this and i love jenna ortega but i was like what's the point of these movies like to to show how creepy the world actually is that it can happen once i don't like either because it plants the idea of it because then someone could see that and they think that's okay or they're normalizing it. Yes. Well, that's what I always talk about is like I always thought that was totally okay. I loved the movie Great Balls of Fire with Dennis Quaid and Winona Ryder.

And she was his 13-year-old cousin and he married her when he was 21 and like whatever. And I thought that's what I wanted. So I used to go up to Michael Jackson's house literally when I was 13 years old. And I really fantasized in my head for real that he would like want to marry me, right? Because in the media you always heard like, oh, he likes kids. And I didn't know at the time when i was like 12 so i didn't really get the he likes little boys yeah literally and that's and i would stand outside and i think my dad didn't know this obviously he wouldn't like drive me up there for that reason but i

would stand outside like hoping like oh maybe he'll see me maybe he'll want to marry me like you know like dennis quaid or dennis quaid he played jerry lee lewis jerry lee lewis married his cousin so i that's how i thought and it does glam glamorize it. So when I see this, and I have had so many stories with teachers and stuff like that with me. And so when I saw this one with Jen Ortega, I was like, but who are they making this for? Like perverts? Yeah, whose idea was it? Their intention behind it?

The fantasy of it. And same thing with the It Ends With Us. I guess if there's a lesson to be learned, but from what I heard, there's not. There's no moral, this is wrong. I mean, I guess Justin Baldoni's like, a lesson to be learned, but from what I heard, there's not. There's no, like, moral, like, this is, like, wrong. I mean, I guess Justin Baldoni is, like, raising awareness now on his socials, but, like, why would he want to put himself as that role? I just don't understand. I'm just, like, I don't get it. But what you said makes sense.

But evoking emotion, I guess even if it's bad and trickery, I don't know. Well, I even saw, like, well, on the Cancel podcast, they were talking about how, like, the author is now being accused of possibly lying about what influenced the writing of the book. So essentially the book was written like about her mom's relationship with her dad. Right. But then like they split up and she said like she's, her first memory was at six years old, seeing a chair thrown at her mother, like from her father. But then now people are going back and reporting that their parents have been split up since she was two.

Oh no. Oh no. But then like, again, does that mean they cannot be in the same room you can maybe but um i mean that'd be a crazy thing to lie about if that was like yeah oh my gosh but people dig don't they they just like to dig and they actually that's not true i always try to like take that with like a grain of salt too i'm like okay well you didn't know her parents you don't know if they were like in the room and like and granted that could be the case and maybe that's why she wanted to write it but yeah yeah, that press tour was wild.

I was like, oh my God, the way they treated that was like insane. And I think, I don't know. I'm glad we'll be fine. She has like so much money. She like doesn't care, you know. But it is wild to be perceived that way. And I now know who Justin Baldoni is because of that. I know.

Good win for him, right? Honestly. He has a podcast called Man Enough, which is a little problematic, though. I saw that. I was like, that's kind of weird, you know, when people are like, are you mad enough? I'm like, what does that even mean you know um whole thing yes we saw the new canceled episode are you feeling as someone who's like friends with tana and brooke are you feeling like some sense of peace that you're like the girls are back you're like you

won't get some more like yes uh i you know i yeah it's it's so hard to comment on the situation for so many reasons right obviously i know tana and brooke and i really like them and it's so hard to comment on the situation for so many reasons right obviously i know tana and burke and i really like them and it's like but i also totally get like people thinking that she shouldn't ever come back i mean there's people who think i shouldn't even have a podcast you know what i mean so i think it's it's just it's uh it's a tough one i mean you can't just like be like ah like i throw them under the bus you know like shame on you forever especially when i've done like um yeah i think what are your thoughts on it i i i i'm so scared to say my thoughts because like also is your audience nice like are they gonna be nice to me they're very nice

it's more like tiktok clips so they clip it and then people are like oh i hate this person you know it's like that's why yeah i don't i would say like the one thing i would say about the brook thing is that i remember when these tweets came out like initially like like a year ago and like so when she brought it up again like when she did her reaction i was surprised that i didn't like that it almost seemed like she's reacting to it again for the first time and i wish that like i hope next time when it comes because everything it's all waves you know so in like two five years hopefully it doesn't that like she's like hey guys remember i put in the work because this time she could have been like hey

a year ago when this is suppose i've been putting and i'm sure she has like she's been super aware um but there's definitely that like emotional aspect that kind of like i can see it playing out within her and like as a viewer and like as a creator it's so like oh i just wish you could like tell them like you know take a breath because like we've all been there where we just impulsively get on the on the phone on camera and just like dish it out and there's're, like, canceled is so big. I mean, there's so many people involved, like, the tour and those things. Yeah. I truly can't imagine, like, how it feels slash, like, just trying to do everything

in my power to make it, like, better, like, less worse. I do think being away for three weeks was, like, probably, it was a choice. Because, like, if they did episodes for three weeks,'m sure by the second third episode we would have already been talking about something new you know i mean oh right in my opinion yeah yeah like the first probably the first comeback rough second one probably rough third it's like okay we're just back on canceled yeah i feel like it delayed it a little bit waiting like three weeks and an hour doing it but nonetheless their podcast conversation went well you know yeah i feel what is the right time it's like there is

no right there's no right time and you know there's people who go away for a year and then people who like don't go away at all you know I feel like through my stuff it's like I just continue posting because I have to you know it's like you know I don't know I don't know the the back end of that but I agree with you but it's also like if they came back too soon would people be upset you know people are upset over anything right I think that's like Tana doing it with Paige people are upset and then Tana coming back with brooke they're upset and it's just like people are going to be upset and like what do you do do you just i i always think like if you to really be canceled you cancel yourself right like if you just leave the internet like jenna

marbles or something like that and i guess that's the only true way to do it um do you like it like so you because like i feel like obviously like real life is real life and like you're not like with these girls all the time you're like best friends with them but you're friends with them and like yeah and from like public perspective they see you as like really good friends you know to a normal person like best friends with them yeah so do you kind of get that anxiety whenever like you're not that close to it but you're close enough to where it's like people are gonna come to you and like obviously even this segment like they're gonna yeah look for anything that you could possibly say that gives some inclination yeah for sure I mean and i think that's how it was with like colleen right like i barely knew her but we

did three podcasts together and all of a sudden it's like well trisha needs to say anything i wasn't saying anything because at the time i wasn't this i think it's like inauthentic for me not to talk about them now because this is like what i do right it's like if i was in something i'm sure they would talk about it um so it feels like inauthentic not to talk about it um and it's just hard it's just hard but i feel like yeah no matter what like i said when i think with colleen i barely knew her but because we had three podcast episodes together everyone's like well this is i didn't know anything about the adam stuff like truly truly truly and of course being friends with her you know you just are like oh it's all lies it's

all lies which is what she says which is what she said to me when i was like did you send my news to someone like no that's all lies they sent to me imagine like that conversation is so cringe were you in that moment though is your like stomach sinking are you like shaking like yeah so i think that's when you know something's wrong right when it's like your gut because at first i wasn't i was like okay she's telling me it's all lies i'm not looking into it i wasn't looking into drama for like years or a couple like it was like a couple years i was on a little sabbatical from drama so i was like okay so she's telling it's all lies you know adam obviously has come for me in the past so you just like think like he's just making stuff up or whatever and then you like when you get into it and like you really that's why I started feeling

for Adam because I was like holy because all of a sudden I was in that position where she lied to my face where she's like no I didn't send those and then I saw it like literally her friend like holding my like OF next to his face and I was like girl like her friend's not even online I'm like girl this is caught you know and she like did admit to it she's like yeah I was a coward like sorry but I'm like but why would you lie I can't remember so many outs I was like girl I've talked about people behind their back I get it just tell me if this is true so I kind of know how to like she was trying to get back with the podcast she was like this is so weird she's like I'm sorry this is the weirdest thing it was such a bully like I did it though but how do we move forward no she was like no they sent me weird pictures of you so

then when I saw it I was like girl what like you got caught like yeah I like that's why I'm very honest like when I did call her daddy I was like just so you girl, there's probably clips of me saying that you're annoying. And why do you have – I was very honest because how can you hold that back when you're face-to-face with someone? And so many people talk to people. And I was giving her that out. And when she didn't, I was like, girl, you're a psychotic actually. But totally, I just went on a different tangent. But yeah, when you have that association with someone.

Yeah, just it is what it is. I don't know. So you're watching them too hash it out. Are you like, so you're watching them to like hash it out? Like, are you like, are you proud of them? How they handle it? I don't know. I don't know the right situation. I don't know the right answer because I am such a scared person in general, right? Like I'm scared for people who get canceled. I'm scared for people like mentally if they're okay when they get canceled. But then I'm also scared, you know, to talk about anything because I have my own past. So it's just like I'm just as a scared person.

So I don't know. I don't know what the situation could have been, right? Either they quit the podcast, Hannah does it on her own, or they come back together. And I don't know what the right answer is. But, like, I know for me, you just continue the podcast, right? Like, I don't know. You don't have, like, you're not, like, closer to one or the other, right? You're just, like, friends with them both?

I would say I know Tana better but it's been like years of like yeah but when brooke has been here i just she came here like last year and then like a few times like she always is like very like nice they've helped our like channel they're super popular so it is a it is a tough one but yeah i just and i say this with all my cancellation too like you know there's just always gonna people that don't don't like you. And like, that's just it. That's just who you just have to be. And I think they seem to take that, right? That they're like, people are just not going to like us.

But a lot of people will. Yeah. That's why I feel like with the timing sometimes, like if you do have them, like a good amount of people that like you just like feed into them before like you, they don't get what they want and they're gone. You know, it's scary. It's such a weird thing to like navigate online. There's no great way to're gone you know it's scary it's such a it's such a weird thing to like navigate online there's no great way to do it there's literally none and

yeah and it just sucks and like the thing is you can't like rewrite your past you know what i mean so it's just like especially that i mean like especially things are like so long ago it's like it's like i feel like it's a lot easier to like hold someone accountable or cancel them for something they did like in the recent history you know yeah yeah it's a tough one and then some people do stuff recently and it's like i don't know their people don't care about it i don't know it's uh it's like yeah that's all we're out on that we're not trying to buy anything i think the chapter just needs to like let's just move on but with mindfulness yeah if you want to move on or don't watch them you know a lot of people like i'm not watching this anymore and like i get that too you know what i mean like

watch them or don't watch them and um yeah lot of people like i'm not watching this anymore and like i get that too you know what i mean like watch them or don't watch them and um yeah they like they were saying like you don't be the accountability police it's like that's that's me too i'm like i'm not trying to be accountability police i'm also not trying to be cancel please like cancel who you want to cancel like that's the world we live in it's a canceled kind of world and it's just you know i don't know i've been through it enough i guess so i'm just like okay but but on the flip side of that too right when you get canceled and you get canceled so hard like i think it'll take like literally my whole life until I'm like dead for people to be like oh Trisha actually was a good person in the end you know because it's like

it yeah my cancellations were like a long time ago but at the same time like it takes a long time for people to see you in a different like light um and just certain things change that you don't I think for me like having my babies like a lot of people it doesn't make you a good person just because you have babies and it's like true but it does like change you you know what I mean it does change you as a person you as a person too like you can look back in hindsight and be like i'm totally different just because of having these kids you have a different sense of responsibility for not only them but for yourself too you gotta be here for them yeah i never want to like embarrass my kids now you

know what i mean it's like and not in the sense of like how i dress or how i look it's not like that embarrassment it's never like i don't want to be publicly beefing or feuding with people if it's gonna like embarrass my kids. You know what I mean? And it's like I'm at an age where it's like I don't necessarily need to have the truth be out there. I don't need to be right. I'd rather just like be – You don't need to win the battle. Yeah.

I'm like let me just be like somewhat cute for my kids as opposed to like a year before I have my kids. Oh, my God. I'd come for everyone's throw up. I don't care. I'm going to do this. Like embarrassing. Like we were talking about earlier like me sending like a cease and desist to Gabby. Like what?

Like why was I doing that? Why did I care? Why was I so angry angry i would watch my outburst to people i'm like god i was such an angry person um and i think when you're like young like the canceled girls are like um just anyone right like the sofia licor and the hot like you know you're young so it looks to everyone else you're like girls this is embarrassing this is messy like why what over a guy like but you're young and like that feels like that's what you need to do at the time lessons learned yeah sofia is trying to be like villain this is my villain erin people like yes we love that little oh we can't say it believe it i guess you can't

say the word i don't know it's also just a root can you say like redhead redhead i don't know is that even christie's saying yes okay orange hair but people are like you know they really come for and she's like playing into it and it's like i get it when you're young and you have like nothing to lose or no one to embarrass like who cares but you know then you're also getting that negative feedback that like you know that the hype the clout of it and like the worst way possible like we all have seen it before where you're like maybe not doing the best but then like everyone's eating it up so you might as well give them more i think that was me too for so long right you're like i'm just gonna play into this i'm gonna be even like more. I'm getting all the money and all the attention.

And yeah, now I can look and be like, oh my god, that's embarrassing. It's going to be on there forever for you. Like, what? And you know that regret it later on. But I think that's just part of being youthful. Her too. It's like, you can't call her a bitch. She's owning it.

She's like, I am. She can't call me crazy if I act crazy. You know, that kind of thing. But that was always double down. If someone's like, you're crazy, I'm like, watch this. You know what I mean? I'm like, I'll show you it. You haven't seen crazy yet. Yeah. double down if someone's like you're crazy i'm like watch this you know what i mean i'm like i'll show you it and i think crazy yeah yeah and i think that's like a scary thing i think about that with like pearl or hrh even and like

it makes me sad actually she's not a troll because in my head i'm like she's a troll she'll regret this later you know what i mean but if she's like if that's how she feels honestly i guess then i guess that's good because it's like if i said stuff that i felt and people canceled for me i'd be like whatever this is how i feel but because i didn't like feel it and stand behind it, it makes me sad because I'm like, God, I wasn't that person. And people will know me forever as being, oh, Trisha's a bad person, right? And it's like, oh, but the things I said that like made me quote unquote a bad person, like I never felt. It's one thing, I guess, if you truly feel that way and you can stand by it, okay, fine. But that Pearl too, where she talks about people, I'm just like, oh God,

it's like, you're going to regret this. But maybe they won't. Maybe't maybe if you're just a bad person truly like you're just like a judgmental person like maybe you don't feel bad maybe you don't feel guilt and then you just you know eventually those people don't last or they go to Fox News or whatever and then that's their life but it's just crazy you know right how wild is that but well I think you've done really great and you've built such a great community here and like the people like and I would say like myself who's followed your story like I can see who you are like those hours and hours of footage for years like it gave us opportunity to see like you could pick up on those little things you know you can see when you're in like the I can remember like when you're saying back like double down in the troll mode I could see it there's something

in the eyes too it's like you could just tell when it's like, you're the character. Yeah. But I think that's like, you know, it's really cool just to acknowledge that, too. And just like to see the growth and to see the behavior and, you know, post this, I guess, like trolling wave you've had. Yeah, yeah. Because you were, I think about the dogs have brains. Right. Which is clearly like a troll, right? But then it's like people like don't get it.

Sometimes they think that's so real. And you're just like, damn, you know, I was like a troll. But also it's like, damn,'t get it sometimes they think that's so real and you're just like damn you know i was like a troll but also it's like damn sometimes it's like and that's like the least of it right that's like the least of my stuff but it's like sometimes those things you're just like oh damn and sometimes when you're not trolling they still see you as a troll like the transgender video i made right it's like i really just knew myself as like non-binary but it wasn't like a word back then you know what i mean so it's like in my head i'm thinking well i'm finally i learned the word yeah and then it comes around him I but I appreciate you saying that it's always like nice to hear and it just takes time I think anything any cancellation the only reason the only way you get uncancelled is to show you've changed which I really do think it takes a

lifetime right until you're dead it's like was she a good person until she died like do her kids say oh she was a good person she tried to do that it's like that's what is the real test it's like do you just want to like operate in silence at that point, right? Right, right. No, that's true. And then you never know. I know. But then you have people like Rob Schneider's daughter just going on blast being like, he was a shit.

And it's like, and you know, I mean, kids are truthful. And it's like, so you just try to be the best you can be and best person. And it's, I don't know. We're trying. Yeah. I'm so glad I'm not like a 20 something influencer because it's hard to navigate. And it's just, I don't know. There's no way to do it and go about.

People are always going to be mad. And I don't know. Rightfully so. And rightfully so. It's just what it is. I agree. Like, especially seeing these TikTokers stuff nowadays. I'm like, I'm glad I didn't do this at like 2021.

Like, I went to the government. I worked a full time job. Like, I know what it's like to work like 50 hours, like doing data science. I don't want to do it again. So filming my videos and doing these things, it's's like it shows me what the real world is and like thank god I had that went to college had those real experiences because I can't imagine like this environment like even tiktokers I know nowadays

are like 21 years old like figuring themselves out and like real time out here in LA like no I know I've had like 18 year old tiktokers on here and I'm just like oh my god like all the stuff they have to like deal with and go through and all navigate it's like so hard or when you get like you said a ton of money at a young age and you're just not you don't really realize like what it means like who was it there was one tiktoker who's like i spent an hour on

that and it was four thousand and i was four thousand dollars i was like four thousand dollars an hour i will do i will do anything for four thousand dollars an hour like anything for four hundred dollars i'm on cameo like i don't care like i will hustle to like the dying day because it's just like that's insane like you know to get $500 for like a minute of your time like that's like so to even say $4,000 like it's it's and people are just so out of touch and I get that I think that's what's frustrating about the influencer world today right people are like you're so out of touch with it but it's like they haven't had to work these like real jobs and that's what I'm so thankful I did because I'm like yeah luckily I'm just not out of touch in that way like I can go back and use my degree if I needed

to yeah but I don't want to so I'm gonna work really hard doing this you know I mean you're very smart you've used your degrees another way which is like really really smart and I think that's a good thing I yeah you're just more appreciative of it because you know the struggle of even people who went to like medical school right like you're like some of these people are making more than like a doctor who like is like literally a brain surgeon saving lives yeah and it's so I think people just don't realize like how lucky they have it. It's, what's that one,

Michaela, where she's like, try being an influencer every day. Oh my gosh. And she's like, I worked, it's 515 and I just got off work on my girl. I love her for that,

but that's a wild clip when I hear that. I'm like, oh. Your local Benjamin Moore retailer is more than a paint expert. There's someone with paint in their soul. A sixth sense honed over decades. And if you have a question about paint, it's almost as if they can read your mind. I sense you need a two-inch angle brush for the trim in your family room. Regal selected an eggshell finish and directions to the post office.

Benjamin Moore paint is only sold at locally owned stores. Benjamin Moore. See the love. Oh my God. It needs to be like an SNL skit. Like seriously. Yeah. That one was a wild one. But again, they're young and it's like, I get it.

Like, you know, it is, you know, and you have to deal with hate online too. That's a whole other thing. You don't deal with it in like a government. Maybe you do. Maybe the government's like yelling at you. Yeah, they're hateful in different ways. Oh, okay. So you're like, I'm prepared.

Like your data sucks. What? Like your data. I used to do data for like. Oh, okay. So you're like, I'm prepared. Your data sucks. Wait, what? Like, your data. I used to do data for, like, the military. So, like, pretty much I did, like, all the data analysis to make sure, like, we could go to war at any point. Oh, my gosh. So, like, every base and stuff.

Yeah. Did you have, like, the codes? Not the codes, but I had the data. That would, like. Wow. So I had a security clearance and everything. Oh, my God. So I couldn't, like, get, like, bought off, I guess, by, like, foreign governments trying

to, like, figure out how many personnel we have at all of our military bases so like I actually studied exactly what I did like I studied stats in school but wow so do you have a word they're gonna come get you oh no I mean because I got my I was making YouTube videos when I got my uh security clearance and they're like oh you can't be doing anything like this online and that's why I did my name sl04n I put numbers in it and made it so confusing. Terrible. Later on, I made my LLC with the tax documents. I got so screwed over with that.

But they could never find me. Oh, my God. I didn't know the lore behind your name. Oh, my God. And now you're like, OK, I will never work for the government again. Yeah, I know. I would not. Oh, my God.

What if they call you men in black tiles thing? Like, we need you for, like, oh. Like, if they need you to go inside for something. Like, we have an inside job and you're the only one with security clearance. No was so my job was so boring i was doing at home i was working from home before like covid oh you weren't going into like the pentagon or anything like that oh i was yeah i was going to the pentagon but i was going like twice a week wait what that's so serious you're like i'm just at home but like mostly at home but i would go in to present my data because i couldn't like you it's so secure you have to go and bring it there but um it's i hate going to the pentagon because all the windows are bright

lime green because they're like ant like after 9-11 like the they're anti-bomb or something so they won't shatter so it actually like it actually looks like your hair like when you're in the pentagon it literally looks like that everywhere because the walls are like reflecting the window you could do so many cool tiktoks though like green screen and you just like put stuff in there the whole room is just green yeah that's actually so iconic actually did you ever do it tiktoks in the pentagon no no i'm still trying to figure out the tiktok like i'm so bad at it oh yeah you don't do them i do it on my computer she's killing it i know she's so good at it you should i feel like it is a lot more like work but it's just like such a good like reach to people

you know because it's like you get so many more views on there and yes you don't get paid a lot but it's just like the amount of people that are like interacting, engaging, all of that. You really should. That's what I feel about Facebook. What? Because like people come to me like, I love your Facebook. What? Do you post on there?

I have like one of my like assistant brothers does it for me. Oh my God. I kind of love that. And he like posts all my content, my podcasts and stuff on there. Oh my God. I made like almost like, well, I made 8K in like one week. Wait, what? I never did.

I used to have companies post that stuff and I tell them not to because they end up like costing me money. And that's what happened to me too. And then they like fell as a company. So they built my page up to like 500K followers and they're like, oh, you don't have to pay us back your sign on anymore.

Just take ownership. So I just trained my employees to run it and now we just run it in-house. So smart. Yeah, they were giving me like invoices like, okay, this is how much it costs to edit. This is how much you made. And I was like losing money.

And I was like, no, this is a scam and I got out of it quickly but was it jelly smack no no I never heard of it that was the company oh is it okay no it wasn't that they no longer exist I don't even we would they don't exist any longer so they don't what happened they just fell through it because they like were hiring these like terrible editors like across in another country to like edit these videos and they like was it your videos they were putting up yeah so they take it from youtube and then just re-edit it into like a facebook format i had a company that was putting up like random like animal videos on my facebook oh no

just random anything and they're like oh this is how much money it costs i don't know it's like weird no that company was putting up my videos but this one was just like random and they were posting it i was like but i wasn't making any money so i'm like what's happening here it was a little weird it was a little weird i was like um maybe i should stop this so was just like random and they were posting it and I was like but I wasn't making any money so I'm like what's happening here? It felt a little weird. It was a little weird. I was like maybe I should stop this so I just stopped the Facebook thing altogether. I stay away from Facebook.

I just have I have them run it and I'm like just let me know. Well people seem to like you on there so maybe keep it going. Well I think because sometimes I cover like old stories from like 40 years ago

like about Shirley Temple or like talking about just classic Hollywood stars. Oh. I'm doing a Maryland podcast maybe tonight. I don't know. Tomorrow. Wait. With someone's Maryland podcast. No, no, no. I'm doing a Marilyn podcast maybe tonight, I don't know, tomorrow.

Wait, with someone's Marilyn podcast? No, no, no, I'm just gonna do it. So I stopped doing interviews on my podcast because like, I feel like you kind of

notice this too, interviews don't pull the numbers so it's not gonna pay the bills. Right. So I'd rather just like, my YouTube, my podcast is like a deeper dive version

of my channel and we do deeper dives into a particular story. So you do Marilyn. Yeah, I'm just gonna talk about like the weird parts of her, like how that one guy like paid to be buried next to her. Ugh, I'm just gonna talk about like the weird parts of her like how that one guy

like paid to be buried next to her. Ugh, I hate that story. He got buried on top of her like facing her. No, I know. I hate that so much. So gross.

Yeah, all of her stories are so tragic. I did a Marilyn Monroe documentary. It was on like, I forgot what it was like the ID channel or something like that.

And it's called This Happened Here I think and it was like this deep drive into Marilyn Monroe and I just love her so much. I just feel like she was another one that she got so much hate while she was alive but then in death

I think that was Anna Nicole I'm gonna just put myself in that category I feel like in death I'll be more popular you know what I mean because or who was it like Joan Rivers like everyone hated her but now people I guess they don't like love her I mean I like watching the clips I like uh you know the bluntness of her actually speaking of isn't this like um Anna Nicole Smith's bedroom yes it is Anna Nicole's bedroom I grew up watching that show that was one of the girls next door and Anna Nicole Smith oh god I loved it Bobby Trendy

it was so good Bobby Trendy I just saw him last week he always comes up to me and says hi to me wait really you should have him on your podcast

you should have him on your podcast I would love it please come on no I would live for Bobby Trendy oh my god he's cool

he's always like on a little something always like jump around to the club oh really but he's got this old like husband he's like

really tall but like super old like gray hair really it? But he's got this old like husband. Oh. He's like really tall but like super old. Like gray hair. Really? It's funny he's always with Bobby and Bobby's just like running around the club and there's

like this old man walking behind. But Bobby has to be older too no? He is but he's like still kicking. He still looks good. Yeah he's like you know

he's got his hair dyed. He's like you know young bouncing around. Okay I kind of love it. He still wears like gloss and his cross tips. I love that. Oh my gosh.

Who's your favorite gay that you've seen? I guess we can wrap it up too but who's your favorite gay that you've seen? I guess we can wrap it up too. So, but who's your favorite gay that you've seen out in Hollywood and West Hollywood? My favorite gay, um, I would say, hmm. Hi, Ees. I'm like, not me thinking of like the ones I've like met. I'm like, Zach Sang.

No, not him though. You love him? No, no, no. I mean, I just met him. He was nice to me. Like he wasn't like whatever. Did he know what you did? Like what you were doing?

He knows how to do like YouTube and such., like, whatever. Did he know what you did? Like, what you were doing? Yeah, he knows how to do, like, YouTube and such. And, like, so he was decent. Who else do I see on WeHo? Who have I seen, Christy? Anyone? Like, Adam Lambert. Yeah, I'd say Adam. Because I'm really good friends with his husband, Oliver.

So, like, I go to their house just to, like, hang out. Oh, my God. He lives five minutes up the road. I love Adam Lambert. He's going to be in Cabaret on Broadway. I know you don't care about musical theater. Well, you know, I know he's in new york right now that's all of us with them yeah they're they're there right now is he performing in an hour just rehearsals i think it's

rehearsals right now oh my gosh i'm like so excited i wouldn't i wish i could go and see him but he's so sweet i was at i was this house like little nas x was there oh my god was there okay um so you're in it you're in the flow of it kind of until like they realize who i am i'm like oh i need to get out the back do you think that affects you like your friendships and stuff like that maybe less now i think like or like friendships like with these people yeah like pres hilton used to be friends with like katie perry lady gaga but then it was like i can't stand presently why do people hate him so much i mean i don't like him from my own personal experience oh okay from like fighting with him on my podcast and he's such an a-hole he was on your podcast yeah me and him got into it

oh oh what was it because essentially like his lawyer which this is all exposed now but his um insider did a story about this lawyer who r-worded someone in the 80s and was able to hide it and get his bar license anyways this lawyer has also worked with a bunch of people like jamelyn spears like uh like anyone you can think of including angelina Jolie including Prez Hilton and so I just asked him on the podcast like did you know that your lawyer

are wearing something in like the 80s because the reporter at Insider gave me like the scoop before so this wasn't out yet and then he got so mad. He was like

I said allegedly and everything but he was like you can't say that blah blah blah and tried to go off on me and he like he was so annoyed

that we had we spent literally five minutes setting up audio. He set all these alarms on his phone for every 15 minutes in the podcast and I could see him sending angry emojis to his manager.

He was so mad that we were sitting for five minutes to set up the audio. Wait, really? That's so weird. When was this? The alarms kept going out. And did you keep them in? Or were you hiding them?

I kept them in two of them, yeah. I was just like, oh my God. I also put a statement saying he was the worst guest i've ever interacted with i was like i've interacted with multiple people and you're so rude podcast seems crazy you had like hrh blair white prescott like were you just interviewing right so you're just interviewing these like i want to interview the controversial people i wanted to like be that person that like will like rich lux i was like are you a racist and i was like well let me read your quote are you are you a racist still like i was trying to be like tough kind of and i but i also wanted

to create a space for like controversial people like alexa to come on like share her story like talk about those things oh my god it was so draining girl that's why i stopped doing interviews like wait a minute that's like so many people like 40 episodes ago i stopped doing interviews how many episodes did you do total of it like interview i mean i'm still doing it now i have a deal with like Studio 71 so we like put it out through that. But like interviews how many did you do? I think I did 25. That's a lot. So I did like Caroline Callaway. Do you remember her?

The scammer back in the day? She was like the New York scammer that went to Cambridge and then like just sold snake oil and yeah. What? Oh my god. How did you find you just found these people and like I want to interview you? I was friends with her in Florida actually. I made friends with her there. We met actually like Julia Fox like connected us. Oh okay. You know everyone. like, I want to interview you. I was friends with her in Florida, actually. I made friends with her there. We met, actually, like, Julia Fox connected us. Oh, okay.

You know everyone. Anna Delvey next on your podcast. I would love to, but she kind of scares me. Yeah, but I feel like that's your alley. You know what I mean? That's your vibe. You can deal with those kind of people. She would scare me.

I don't get, like, scared. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, I get scared, like, I wouldn't actually be scared confronting her. I'm not scared asking her those things. I just know she, I already know her, so she won't answer it to me. So it's like, what type of conversation would I have when I'm like sitting with someone who's like clearly lying back?

Oh, yeah. That would be so crazy. I know. I want JoJo on, but I would love to just ask her. I'm so scared to ask people like real questions, but I would just ask like so many. But more like I like sympathize with her more than like want to be like angry at her. You know what I mean? I'm like, I just want to ask her.

Do you see the Eurovision thing? Is she going to be on Eurovision? No, what? JoJo Siwa, right? Yeah, as who? Yeah, she like, I guess she followed like the Eurovision things and the Eurovision thing? Is she going to be on Eurovision? No, what? Jojo Siwa, right? Yeah, as who? Yeah, I guess she followed the Eurovision things, and she's been wanting to, she wants to go on Eurovision. But with what country?

I don't know. Poland. Poland. She said she recently heard something about she's Polish. She's Polish and she wants to go on Eurovision. As a joke, someone asked her if she was going to go on and represent Poland, so then she's embraced it as like this meme Okay

So she's following everything Now she's like there right now I think she literally flew there or something Did you do a video on this? Okay, Chrissy Swilcest just said she is in Poland right now breaking news doing this meme of the Eurovision Is Eurovision happening now? No it's not anymore right? We just had it Yeah it just ended Just going there for the Oh my god love I love that.

I'm going to just like... Connect her people. Is she actually Polish or is she just... Breaking news. Oh my gosh. Okay, I love it. Oh my gosh. You really are on it.

She seems so American to me. Like, I just met her bulldozing into Poland. Like, so, hey guys. And like, holy shit. Polish people are like, what is... Yes. Oh my God, that's actually so funny. She's coming in like doing hand spins. Like, twirling in like, jeez. I gotta live, holy shit. Full of people are like, what is... Yes. Oh, my God. That's actually so funny. She's coming in, like, doing hand spins and, like, twirling in.

Like, jeez. I gotta live for JoJo. I know she's kind of, like, a little bit, you know? No, I live for, like, the comedic aspect of it, you know? Yeah, and I feel like she's another one. I don't want to, like, say she's the one through trauma or something. I think, like, just what we've seen of her as a child star is she's obviously been through a lot.

Even though she doesn't feel that, like, watching it is a lot, right? Watching her with Abby Lee. I'm sure her mom is probably, like... I mean, the mom's gotta be the source of it. It's not like JoJo like created this whole world. Like her mom's like the one getting her into these deals and these shows and stuff. I mean, the mom was the one worried about being cut off. Like, are we going to be cut off?

It's like, that's a weird thing to worry about when it's like your daughter's gone through so much. It's like, I'd be like, keep all the money. I don't care. Like, whatever. Hopefully you're okay. And I hope she's okay at the end of it. Yeah.

Anything else you'd like to put out there, Sloan? If you were to do Eurovision what country would you do UK right I guess why UK is it the only one you can speak

do you speak another language Korea I speak a little Korean Euro yeah oh was that not in Europe Eurovision where is it

Europe Korea yeah where is that at I think it's like near Australia okay well isn't Australia in Eurovision

I don't know anything about it oh you're right I just don't know what Eurovision was honestly it's like yeah it's like near Australia. Okay. Well, isn't Australia in Eurovision? Oh, you're right. It's like, yeah, it's like Europe. I thought it was all around the world. I thought so too. No, no, it's just Europe. It's just Europe. Okay, well. I lived in Sweden for a little bit.

I don't know what's in Europe then. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know. Korea. She'll represent Korea. What are you supposed to go with that? You just said you were 23 and me. You'll be Sweden.

I can do Sweden. Yeah, I guess that. I don't know. I have no idea what I'd be. Where would you be? Are you just did your 23andme you'll be Sweden I can do Sweden yeah I guess that I don't know I have no idea what I'd be where would you be oh wait are you Swedish is that your thing I did have like a little bit in there in my ancestry

oh I'm Swedish are you Swedish no I was there for like four months okay wait why my uncle was like worked pretty high up in Ikea

in Ikea yeah so like I went and stayed there when I was in high school that's such a stereotype right it's like oh my god like I'm Swedish and my grandfather works in Ikea that's everything funny. That's such a stereotype, right? It's like, oh, my God, like, I'm Swedish and my grandfather works at IKEA.

Yeah. That's everything. No, it is, like, such a thing, though. Like, they're everywhere. And that's where you go to eat for lunch. You love the meatball there. No, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not an IKEA person either.

Yeah, the food. Even the one in Burbank, the food is not great. No, that one is not it. But we are going to eat banging buns. I'm so excited about this. I am so excited. Oh, my. First time having it.

Never had banging buns. I'm so excited. I love that UV in there. It's so good. It's Oh my, first time having it. Never had bangin' buns. I'm so excited. You being there, it's so good. It's like my favorite thing in the whole wide world. I know, it was crazy. We both have, me and Christy both have connections to bangin' buns. It's like, wow, what a small world this is. They delivered it themselves. They're here? They were with me. They were outside.

The guys? Yeah, they came in this beautiful blue Mercedes. Just had them come in. What? Why did you let them come on? Get them on the fly. Actually, are you sure the owners? Yeah, definitely the owners. He said, he was like, is it Uber? I said, no, it's them.

Wait, why did they come on? I'm so sad. They'll come back. I'm so excited. Oh, so it's here. When did I get here? When I left the room. Wait.

20 minutes ago. The food is here. Oh, my God. Okay, we should probably eat. Oh, I like to eat it when it's hot okay well we'll go there we don't know when it's gonna be out yet though but it's coming soon the month of May

yeah yeah we've got the cameras already set up so oh okay wow okay alright well let's go eat some bang on Sloan thank you so much thank you for having me on

Sloan cooks everyone special guest Christy Spilsash you have to come back to do a full hot topic because you are so in it and this was so much fun thank you so much

there were so many hot topics. There's so much. I know. There's so more to go through. But we'll get it again. We'll do it again. I know. And thank you, Oscar, for letting me come on to your spot.

And I really. He needed a break. He needed a good break. So I'm glad he's having a vacation moment. Anytime he needs a trip, we'll see how people like me or not. But you know. Come back. Always happy to fill in for him.

But no one can replace Oscar. No. So don't even. Don't try to compare. Don't try to compare. It's a whole cancel thing. No, we love you guys so much. Thanks for watching, and we'll see you in the next one. Bye, guys.

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