Just Trish - Colleen Ballinger Is LYING TO YOU & Trisha SUES Snapchat

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Trisha reveals she's ready to take Snapchat to court, and is looking to file a lawsuit against the shady social media platform. Plus, Colleen Ballinger is LYING to her viewers... and we have the receipts to prove it. And a friend of the show is FEUDING with Mikayla Nogueira, but whose side are we on?  Subscribe to the Podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/just-trish/id1698564262?at=1010lSCj Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6bZ5tfeCt6naGMw24pRMLe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@justtrishpodcast All Podcast Platforms: https://link.chtbl.com/JustTrish?at=1010lSCj Follow Just Trish on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/justtrishpod/ Follow Oscar: https://www.instagram.com/oscargracey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo! We just totally got B-Wendy everywhere. That's what plays in my head when we start saying like you mean it. Hi guys, welcome back to Just Trish. We're having Casual Tuesdays here on Just Trish. I said just casual. Well, Oscar got the memo.

I did. I have my Uggs on. Jeans. My Neopets shirt jeans. I know this is very unlikely. This is giving very like, what is it, collegiate scholar on the weekend. Like very Prince Harry on the weekend. Very Princess Diana on the weekend.

She would wear this outfit. The jeans with the sweater. The gamer girl. It was very Princess Diana. I love it. The jeans are great. They're very like 90s too. They can't see it, but it's very I mean this is I think an outfit that I would probably have worn when I was like in eighth grade. So it is kind of giving that I think.

It's very nice. I like it. I actually was – I seriously had Moses cut like this sweater for me, this Elvis sweater. And I had him like cut it so it was a nice big – it was going to be like slouching off the shoulder. I was going to wear little shorts and like tights and sneakers. It was going to be a really cute thing. And then the wig became something else and the hair was something else. It was going to be a really cute thing. And then the wig became something else and the hair was something else.

It was a whole thing. And then I was going through our, we have like racks of pink clothes and I had like Halloween costumes that I never wore and I was going to sell them. But I'm like, why don't I wear them on the show first and then have my mom posh them the next day. So if you want to buy,

it's supposed to be Glinda the Good Witch but it's kind of giving Gypsy Rose a little bit. It's giving Gypsy Rose goes to the movies with her mom and her boyfriend. That kind of ups the value, I think, if you market it that way. Tell your mom. That's my cosplay, but then I get canceled for dressing up Gypsy Rose.

Love Gypsy Rose. It's supposed to be. Glenda, what did you think I was? You thought I was something. You didn't even know what I was supposed to be. Because you're like, what did you call it? I thought we were going to make up what kind of a fairy she is or something. Oh, you're going to make up a fairy that you are. I was like, it's not a fairy.

There's no wings. But we're going to make up, like, you know, she's the Oscar. She's the. What's my fairy? I want Oscar for fairy, first of all. A twinkle fairy. A twinkle fairy. Twinkle fairy.

Maybe tooth fairy. Yeah. It's giving Christy Alley a tooth fairy. Okay, yeah. Anyways. Love that. So Maybe tooth fairy. Yeah. It's giving Christy Alley in tooth fairy. Okay, yeah, yeah. Anyways. Love that. So, I don't know. This became a thing, and then I felt a little ridiculous, and I was excited to show my daughter.

I was like, ooh, she's going to be so impressed, and she definitely wasn't. She definitely just wanted Cheez-Its that I was eating, and I was like, okay. So, she's just used to it, but yes. When we take her to Disneyland, she'll finally understand. She's like, oh, there's more people like my mom. That's true. This is where my mom came from. She won't even be impressed. She'll be like, oh, I see this every day my mom. That's true. This is where my mom came from. She won't even be impressed.

She'll be like, oh, I see this every day. Yeah, this is normal. That's very true. Well, it's kind of like gender revealed too. It's like, oh, we're having a girl. Oh, period. Yeah, yeah. But it's hot topics.

And we're filming on a different day than we normally do. So it feels a little. I know. Every time we're out of our routine, the vibes get a little chaotic. But that's fine. We'll surf the waves. It's a little chaotic. It's Canada Creator Day.

You were like rushing to post a TikTok about Queen Elizabeth, you said. I know. It brought me back because there was like breaking news about how she died, which was like, is it really breaking? Like it's from 2022, but that took me back to like, you know, with Malibu and the, yeah. Did you post about that on Entertainment Straight? I was on, I remember I was on vacation and I specifically remember, it's like one of those historic moments.

Like you remember where you were when you found the news that you gave birth in that Queen Elizabeth died. Like I was in, I was in Hawaii. I was on vacation and my friend texted me, um, cause they were jealous that I missed out, but I didn't have to like cover the breaking Queen Elizabeth news. Oh, right. Cause it was crazy that day. But then I remember just being on Twitter and everyone was like, uh, Trisha Paytas,

baby, Queen Elizabeth reincarnated. It was trending number two right underneath her. That was the most wild thing. Yeah. Like the queen died after like a hundred years. And then like I'm like up there with her trending. That was the most bizarre thing. I'll never forget where I was.

I was in the bathroom. I literally, I see it so vividly. Like seeing all the tweets about you giving birth to Queen Elizabeth. Like that was history. That was history. If I was actually giving birth at the time, like, I wonder if I would have seen it. If I would have seen it, I probably would have, like, put Elizabeth as, like, the middle name.

No, she had, so I had Malibu Barbie. I'm sorry. I would have worked out, but it would have been, yeah. I don't know. That was weird. How those, like, rumors go so viral or, like, how it even, it's not even a rumor. It's just, like, a straight up, like, lie and everyone just runs with it. That's what's scary about the world, for sure.

I know, but it's, like, I'm so guilty of that because, like I straight up like lie and everyone just runs with it is that's what's scary about the world for sure i know but it's like i'm so guilty of that because like i said any lie that's like a little fun and like like makes me giggle i'm like i'll run with it yeah totally sorry selena but it's like it makes me smile so i'm like that's fun yeah that's what i thought too i'm like looking back now i'm like okay it's kind of like fun and funny and like we obviously in the moment i'm sure that feels of course especially when like you're like my dad's texting me and everyone's calling like are you a man because i was known for trolling and like that was my year of like no drama and like really trying to be at peace and in my inner peace i was like oh no people are thinking like trolling this and using my baby for this and views and whatever and i just felt like immediately like why i got i was panicked

i was panicked but now it's like funny and i just hope it doesn't happen again like honestly because it is sad too like when someone dies and like, but now it's like funny and I just hope it doesn't happen again. Like honestly, because it is sad too like when someone dies and like that they, then it becomes like this joke, you know what I mean? Like people already joking about Prince Charles

and I was just like, oh my God, don't even joke about that because if it does happen, I will feel some type of way. I will feel like I'm cursing the royal family or something. So let's just not.

I'm sure he'll live to be 20 more years to be 100 like his. Oh, I mean. It's the most American thing that there is. You know, like the queen is dying, the queen dies. And then in America, the news is, oh, Trisha Payton.

Oh, you think I'm the most American thing? This thing that happened was the most American thing it could be. Like number two trending is you with the baby. Okay, well, wow. Miss Americana. Miss Americana. You were on the American issue. I did another photo shoot for a European magazine yesterday, and they had me in my McDonald's uniform with a Marilyn Monroe wig.

And I was like, this is – I'm like, their concept of like America is – I mean, I love it. I love that I'm like representing this. It was wild. It actually kind of came out kind of everything. It kind of was like cute. At first, I was like, hmm. But it kind of came out cute, and that magazine comes out at the end of February. It's another European.

It's in print. So, you know, print queen. I'm literally just saying yes to everything. Yes and. Yes and. Do we even get into that? The thing is, is today I feel like there's some heavy topics. And I realize, oh, my God, this will be clipped.

And I'm dressed like this. We're talking about the McBroom divorce. I'm going to talk about Colleen's video because I'm just so sick of her. Like I honestly was like sick to my stomach about it. So I was like, but I just like, oh man. So I don't know. I didn't know where to go with it.

But people will just say that's just Trish. I guess that's the just Trish. That's just Trish. Literally. Why is she wearing that? That's just Trish, you know. It's just Trish, yeah. So anyways, to start out the show,

shout out to our patrons today. Actually yesterday, your headshots were shipped out. So all the goodies for January were shipped out. The headshots, the Christmas card, the sticker, and what was the other thing I had? Oh, the cue cards. Those were sent out. But if you want to join for February, join by February 10th. This is our sticker of the month. A little Trishmoji praying hands.

I think this is my Terry Jo dress. That is your Terry Jo dress. I love you, Jesus. That is your Terry Jo dress. A little I love you Jesus. This is so great. So if you're into praying and Jesus, these are the stickers for you. And you can only get them on our Patreon. It's our $50 headshot tier or our producer tier. And then our producers are going to get special Valentines in the mail.

We're going to do a little Valentine shoot for you. Did you see the Rihanna shoot with her pink lingerie? Yes, I saw that. You tweeted it. And everyone, well, and the true story, PopCraft tweeted it first. And I got all these tags. It's like, this looks like Trisha Paytas. I was like, oh, my God, thank you.

That was literally, poor Rihanna. I felt so bad. I was like, oh, my God. People really do. That makes me do feel bad sometimes. It's like, because I know people will, there's a, I don't even know her name, so I can't even insult her. There's like a drag queen.

And, you know, and she's beautiful, of course, but she's like a lot larger than me. But people are like, you look more like this person. It's not anyone from the one season. It's like some season, I don't know. And everyone tries to be like mean and it's fine. Like she's like larger, but I'm like, okay, like she has a different body type, whatever. But I feel like, is that mean? I don't know.

But it's more mean than I feel bad for Rihanna. People are like, oh, this looks like Trisha. And I was like, okay, that's kind of mean. You know what I mean? I don't know. I mean, like I tell you all the time, the face card that you carry is... I mean, thank you, yes. The limit is like pretty

high. You know, and everyone said that. We had sugar and spice and they were saying, oh, I just love your face. But you know, as like a fat girl, that's just like the worst thing to hear sometimes. Like, you have a really pretty face and you're just like, okay. Oh my God. No, but it's... It's a compliment. No, I know. Period. Yeah. Like it just stops there. There's nothing else about it.

But what about my body? There's no qualifier. I'm more than just my face. Well, talk about your body too, but at that moment – No one's ever said, wow, that body, girl. No, but most bodies are similar. Faces are so unique. Yeah.

Like your face is so unique. You can get on the Ozempe for whatever kind of body, but a face card like that – Okay. Okay. Yeah, I get that. But whenever we're in public or anywhere or guests come in and stuff like that, I always look at your face and I was just like, there's nobody like you. Like nobody has a face that looks like yours.

You are hyping me up. I'm like Miss America. I have a face. I represent America. He's like, there's nothing more American than Trish Paytas. But we're just talking about the 23andMe. I mean. Yes, we're doing that.

We got to do that. Have you done it? I've never done it. Okay. We should all do it if you want. I don't know. You're like submitting your DNA. I guess people are like, don't do that. You'll submit your DNA. But yeah. We got to do that. Have you done it? I've never done it. Okay. We should all do it if you want. I don't know. You're like submitting your DNA. I guess people are like, don't do that.

You'll submit your DNA. But yeah, we got to do that. Wait, I didn't get my finish my shot. Patreon.com slash justtrish. Not only, you can do the higher tiers and get the goodies. We have the Valentines. We have the cue cards. We have the headshots.

We have these stickers. But you can also do the lower tiers, which are crushing it too. Actually, I think we have more people on the lower tiers, which is everything. For $5 a month, you get four extra extended podcasts. I mean, they're literally like almost an hour long. And we talk about juicy stuff on there sometimes. Sometimes we just, you know, talk about nothing, but either way, it's something extra. So, and then if you, there's another chair where you can get two videos a week. So you get eight videos a month and it's for like $5 or $5 for four videos a month and $10 for, I don't know, I'm doing all the math for you, but you can just

check it out. Patreon.com slash justtrish. Thank you guys, by the way. The producers will be listed at the end because we actually have so many producers now. If I were to list them all off, it would literally take 20 minutes, but we're so appreciative. You guys truly are the sponsors. You keep this sponsor free here on YouTube. I mean, not by choice, but we love it, and we thank you for it. Seriously, seriously, seriously, we appreciate it.

Patreon is kind of wild. Is that the right word out there? What is the word I'm trying to look for? For what? For our content? Just what Patreon is. Patreon is loose. Should I have it here?

Our Patreon is loose? Like we let loose over there. Oh, we let loose. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have a loose Patreon. There's the cut of the Trisha sticker. Just put it on your face the whole time. So anytime it pans to you. So yeah. Thank you. Patreon. Patreon. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have a loose Patreon. There's the cut of the Trisha sticker. Just put it on your face the whole time so anytime it pans to you.

So, yeah. Thank you. Patreon. Patreon.com. Just Trish. Oh, my gosh. Why can't I speak today? Patreon.com.

Just Trish. You subscribe to a lot of people on Patreon. Only like two. Oh. Because you told me. You're like, oh, I follow people on there. I was like, do you? I subscribe to Bob, the drag queen of Monet Exchange.

Oh, okay. Yes. Okay. Just the drag world. I love it. And I don't know if you know AJ. You know AJ? She's the girl. She does Exchange. Oh, okay. Yes. Okay, just the drag world. I love it. And I don't know if you know, you know AJ? She's the girl,

she does like all the music, like reactions and she wears like the bandana and she's always like dancing. You might have seen like her memes and stuff because she's like another meme kind of girl, but I subscribe to her too. Oh, so there's three pages. Oh, but the drag queens are together.

Yeah, Bob and Monet are together and then AJ. So those are my two right now. What do they offer? Bob and Monet, they do like a little bonus episode kind of like we do. Okay.

And then AJ, she just does like full uncensored. And then for YouTube, she'll upload it like maybe like half the length. Oh, smart. Be like, if you want to see the end of this video. If you want to see the full thing, yeah. That's smart. That's like a little thing. I, well, I was subscribed to Jeff Wittek.

I finally had to cancel it because it kept reminding me that I subscribed and it's fine. Like I just, I just don't. Anyways, but I do subscribe to Drew. We talked's fine. Like, I just don't. Anyways. But I do subscribe to Drew. We talked about Drew. Drew Monson. Number one guest. And people, I tweeted pictures of it yesterday.

And like, oh, my God. Like, let it go. Don't pressure him. But he keeps talking about it. I saw one in a good way. He texted me, actually. He's like, I hope you don't mind. I used you for clickbait for my Patreon.

Talking about it. I was like, we used your thumbnail. He, like, did an analysis of your thumbnail. Like, the face that you picked and all that stuff like that. So I love Drew. But I just saw a clip yesterday on TikTok of him being like, I don't know if I want to go. He goes, maybe I'll go on the Just Trish.

But I like being known as the person who will or may not go on the Just Trish. I know. That's his milk. Yeah. He talks me up. Yeah. I almost sent it to you. And I was like, I don't know if he doesn't care on our day off.

No, I love it. It was everything. And it was really cute. And he did this whole spiel about me and hosting the Just Trish Podcast. And anyways, Drew, you're still the number one guest. You're the number one requested guest. You're the number one guest in my heart. Who needs The Weeknd or Zac Efron if we get Drew Monson?

You know what I mean? Drew's big. Drew's huge. He would be amazing. And like I keep saying, and everyone reminds him, is like, I don't even care about the past. I just want to talk about the present. And I love it.

And it's, you know, and we give everyone final cut, final say. Yeah. And everyone takes advantage of that. Everyone's like, cut, cut, cut. And I was like, okay. Okay, you got it. Oh, yeah. Did you see Drew too?

He was also saying like when he went out, I think he was like walking down the street and someone came up to him and was like, are you Drew? Like, are you going to go on the Judge Trish podcast? Yeah. He talked about it? Yes. Oh, I love it. He keeps talking about it.

So I feel like it's like he wants to, but it's a little apprehensive. You know what I mean? And so I'm here to tell you everything's okay. I'm happy to go to him. So someone's like it's like he wants to, but it's a little apprehensive. You know what I mean? And so I'm here to tell you everything's okay. I'm happy to go up to him. So someone's like, oh, why don't you travel up to him? I could just have like lunch. And I don't know if he says, he says where he's from. I don't know.

I could bleep it. I don't know. But I'll go up to where he's at. I just, I really always loved you. And then I was looking at pictures of us. Like I was just like looking through, I think it was like Twitter or something, like old pictures. And we actually did so much like outside.

I feel like so many people will just make like Shane as our association, but it's like outside of Shane, we actually like went to Hamilton together, just us two. We went to Beach Boys, which I totally forgot until I looked at the pictures. We drove down to San Diego together and we got a lot of tickets after. We went to like Cheesecake Factory together all the time by ourselves, movies. Like, I mean, we were like actually like pretty close friends outside of like Shane and stuff. So I, I get not wanting to go back to that like era and stuff. And I don't either. I mean, we do here. But yeah, I even told him we'd do something on his Patreon

because he's a Patreon queen too. And he was the one who kind of like, kind of got me interested in it again because Patreon saved me when YouTube got demonetized for like, my YouTube was demonetized for like four months. I was making no money. And I went to Patreon and it kind of saved me for like two years.

So I was kind of like, oh, let me go back to Patreon. And it's actually so much fun. And now that I have you to help us out, it's actually like really good quality content on there. I know. I love doing the Patreon stuff. I love looking at all the comments. Me too. It's like a little community over there.

So it's genuinely fun. It's so much fun. I love it. And I love sending out the things in the mail. Like we package them all. My mom comes over. My sister helps with the labels. And we put like little – all the little packages together.

It's just kind of fun. I don't know. My mom loves it. My mom puts the hand stamps on there because my sister's like, just get the machine because we do have so many. I think we have like 400 people getting headshots now, which is like wild for me to like do 400. I love it though. My mom will hand put each stamp on there because she goes, oh, but then they can see all the different stamps. And you know, I was like, so save your envelopes, I guess. My mom gets really excited about that. And they brought

pink envelopes for this time. So you get a pink envelope in the mail. And so I'm sure each month we're trying to do something. I always am trying to do a little extra. The Trish Modi stickers for the headshot and producer tears, and then like little cards or something for the... A lot of people upgraded for the holiday cards, you know? So we'll do Valentine's cards this year, and it'll be amazing. Valentine, I mean, if you want to get a gift for your girl that is a fan of the show. Or a boy.

We have lots of boys, too. A fan of the show. It's a great Valentine have lots of boys, too. A fan of the show. It's a great Valentine's gift to give them a subscription to our Patreon. Great. That is a great promo for it. Thank you, babe. That was good. It's a timeless gift that will last forever. That was a good one.

He lost his voice this week because he was sick at the beginning of the week, and so now it's all like... Welcome to the Gesture. Yeah, it sounds cool. It sounds very ASMR. You sound like a different person. Every time you talk to me, I'm the sponsor. I'm the sponsor, bro.

And patreon.com slash gesture. She should do the intro that way. We tried to have you do an intro one time and it just was not it. Remember? I don't know. I mean, the chat liked it. Did they like,

well, do another intro right now. 20 minutes in. Okay. No. He'll do our Patreon intro. Oh, okay. If you want to see the intro, go to Patreon.

He'll be just all Moses ASMR on there. So I went to the shoot yesterday. The only thing I posted on my story from it was the bathrooms. It was like, it had like the wheelchair sign, the male, the female. Then there's like a male, female stick figure, but it's like half and half. And then there was an alien. And I was like, that's a little offensive. Because it literally said, I don't know if I even have the picture anymore. It's not my story.

But it's like, whatever you are, wash your hands. I'm like, oh, my God. Like a little offensive to people who just identify as just both. Oh, maybe it was binary. Maybe it was both. Maybe that was it. Anyways, I thought it was cool. I like the alien.

I took a picture of it. But then somebody else said it was offensive and deleted it. And I was like, I'm not deleting it. It's like not that big of a deal. It was also at a photo studio where everybody there was like. I like the alien. I took a picture of it. But then somebody else said it was offensive and deleted it. And I was like, I'm not deleting it. It's like not that big of a deal. It was also at a photo studio where everybody there was like queer. Speaking of queer, first of all, what is queer? I think it's just like the whole spectrum of like. Everybody in the world is queer then.

I don't know if that. Because it's like, right. If you're not, if you don't identify as like heterosexual, I think you fall under like the queer umbrella. So everyone's a little bit queer. Like everyone's a little bit queer. Like, everyone's a little bit. I mean, so everyone because I saw Kristen Stewart talking about how someone's like, or people are like, oh, everyone, we all knew you were queer. I was like, what is even queer? I forget what

queer is. Yeah, it's like, not straight. Not straight. Not straight. I just would love to know if anyone out there actually identifies as like a straight person. I'm sure there are some people who are like aggressively straight. I think if you went to Jeff FM and you asked him, are you queer or are you, uh, they don't get it, but I bet, I bet there's a little queerness in him. Moses doesn't identify as anything. You just identify, you don't identify. You don't, he doesn't like labels. I'm water. Seriously, he's fluid. He's

like a modern man though. You know what I mean? It's like an artist. No, it's you, you approach life differently. That's very true. Oh, speaking of, Moses, I found out what your stands are called. You have stands? Yeah. The fan name is Water Droplets. You just made that up. You're just making up fandoms. Brookies, cookies, water droplets.

Who are the water droplets? Who are they? Well, show yourself. Open up a Patreon just for your water droplets. I want to see who comes on. Showing the love you said. You know what? They just start doing water.

You know what? You do have stands. But I always wonder. I wonder that. I wonder if there's any truly just Moses fans. Someone like him and Zach. Weren't they a Moses stand? They were a little water droplet?

I don't believe it. I don't. She was like a young girl. I think what happened was, I mean, before we met, like, my art world was more like on Facebook. It was that era. And, like, my work had people that were drawn to it. You had followers?

A lot of followers. No. Oh, my God. What? I mean, not in a bad way, but who follows artwork? It's not personal because I'm not, like, a YouTuber. An artist is different. They follow the artwork.

But then you came with your mega million followers. And mega millions. And it dissolved. You know, so one might drop of water. You're jealous. It's a bird in the artwork. But then you came with your mega million followers. And mega millions. And it dissolved. So one might drop of water. Your droplets. It's the food in the ocean. Your droplets have. Of your fans.

They're back, I guess. The droplets are back. But as I'm saying, are these droplets fan of your art? Because you got, well, not to go back to this, but you did get tricked. I mean, people would say, oh, I'm a fan of your work. And then you found out. I had to prove to him later. I'd go on Guru Gossip, the original Reddit. And I'd be like this person,

see, this is them in 2016 on my fan board. But they were telling Moses they were a fan of him. So he's like, they're a fan of me. And I was like, they're not. I know this person. This person's been harassing me. But people have become fans of him, like are fans of you. Totally. No, I get the water droplets are branching off. I love a water droplet. And I think that I mean, that's what we want. Right. That's why I have him in every like I want people to be a fan of Moses.

But then I think but I guess apparently there is. I was like, oh, I wonder if there's people that are just fans of just Moses. But apparently there are. Did you meet these fans? I don't even know. Did you do meetups? They were on the Judge Trish Reddit. They were just like, we want to be called Moses' water droplet.

Oh, and who was it? How many people? How many of you? I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, but when I would have an exhibit and people would show up, that's what you would call fans. And it was the same people that you didn't know? Yeah, I knew a lot of them.

Wait, but you didn't know them before. They were just strictly fans. Yeah, because of the artwork. No, yeah. It's not like friends that came. My boyfriend's a fan of art. He went to like art school though, so he's very like Moses coded. Like he has artists that he's a fan of or like architects that he's a fan of. Yeah. But what does that mean? Like, okay, architects you're a fan of. Are you going to like? I think if they have like a gallery. They do lectures. They do lectures and it's almost like

a meeting room. Well, things I didn't know. Usually it's exhibits and lectures. I mean, that's cool. I didn't know this. I love it. I'm proud of you. That's cool. I didn't know. I see I was dating someone famous.

I didn't even know. You had fans. You see your dreams have all come true. My dreams came true. I'm worried. They used to call it the local celebrity. Oh, were you a local celebrity? Oh, my God. I didn't know this.

You know, in the K-Town area. Okay. K-Town. Shut up, K-Town. Oh, my God. Did you have fans probably from this? Did you have – you have the ends probably from this. Did you have like strawberry days? Did people ever write to you?

You must have. I don't think so. Maybe like a handful. Oh, I guess now is actually the – oh, we were talking about frozen foods and someone's like, oh, can we send you some frozen foods? I was like – I forget the – one of the meal places. I know. You'll never get another sponsor again, Oscar.

I don't have the food yet. When I have the food, we'll circle back. Are we going to do a frozen food Patreon video? Honestly, all the ones you get, we could just put on Patreon. It's like, I guess,

what does that consider a sponsor? I don't want to put sponsor, but I guess it's not really a sponsor if they don't pay. I'm going to post it on my Instagram story if I like it. I guess that's what, my boyfriend's also

really cracking down on me. He's like, you got to, if someone sends you something, you got to post it. He's like, because he's really aiming for the mattress.

It's going to happen. What do we want? Lol? Lol mattress. I followed them after Brooke said, I was like, okay, let me lay the groundwork. Send him a lol mattress. I love it. Hey, I mean, if anything, I can't even think of something that I want that I wanted people to send me, maybe like free, like Louis Vuitton or something like that. I don't know. Just, you know what I mean? Send me free something. What was it? Did Nicki Minaj give a fan like a free car or something? Did you see? Oh, I don't know. She texted someone like, look out your window.

I want to say it was like, it's not funny Marco, but he's kind of like funny Marco. I don't know. She's like, look out your window. And it was like a Lamborghini or something. Yeah. I could be wrong, but I think I'm right on this one. But I just remember I saw something like that. Oh, that's funny.

Everyone thought Nicki was going to be on our podcast because I'm like coming next on Just Trish, but it was like this pink hoodie she was wearing and I'm getting it designed for me. So I was saying like this is the next outfit on Just Trish. Oh, yeah. People would text me like, oh, did you get Nikki? Oh, my God. I wish.

Because she did. When she was doing all those interviews, she's like, just ask me if you want to interview me and I'll come. And I was like banging her. I just like I can't bang anymore. I'll try. Maybe I'll try a couple more times. I did have a dream last night.

I was like DMing celebrities to come on like Jeremy Allen White and stuff. He's been in my dreams a lot lately and I'm not even a stan, but I've been. He's in Studio City all the time. I feel like he's in Studio City. Really? Have you seen him? Where? At the Air One?

He's like on Alfred's. By himself? Yeah. Yeah, this was before he was dating Rosalia. So maybe now he'd be with Rosalia. Is he with Rosalia? Yeah, you didn't know? No.

Oh, yeah. They're a cute couple. Wait. So why were they saying, oh, Sabrina Carpenter was with the Salt Burn guy? Yeah, Barry. Oh. They gave me, I get them kind of confused too, right? No. Really? I think they look so much alike, I get them confused.

I'm like, oh, I guess they're both in my dreams, which is so weird. They're not really my type, but I'll take either one on the podcast. Oh, for sure. They don't give me straight energy, though. They don't give me straight man energy. I think Jeremy Allen White does, but Barry, I don't know. Keoghan.

Yeah. We really need an Irish person to. I know. An Irish person. Barry. Geoghan. I bet it's not even, you probably don't even pronounce the G. It's probably like coffin.

Con. Geoghan. Geoghan. I love the way he talks. He doesn't give me, yeah, they both don't give me straight men energy. I don't know, but not in a bad way, but I guess good for them. Yeah. Anyways, I would, I guess I would take them on the podcast oh for sure yeah Barry's post salt burn has been

like very elusive though like he's not really doing interviews as often I think he's really riding this wave the mystery the salt burn wave high yeah he's trying to be like the character he did say to GQ though he's trying to like rebrand from like you know freaky little guy to like freaky man so he's like what's better than

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Saltburn's freaky little guy? Like those kind of quick characters that are like the younger-looking, younger freaky little boys. He wants to be a little bit more mature. He's still cool being a freak. Right. Just a freak. Freaky man. Yeah.

But be a little bit more mature. Is that my song or is that the one from the idol? Is it mine or? I'm just a freak. Oh, it's from the idol. Idol a freak. Freaky man. Yeah. But maybe a little bit more mature. Is that my song or is that the one from the idol? Is it mine or? I'm just a freak. Oh, it's from the idol. The idol. Oh. For some reason, I was like, wait, that sounds like my song.

It really is my song. I'm just a freak. Yeah. It is interesting because he looks young but not. He also looks kind of old. Because I didn't know anything about him. So after you told me he was like a kid and stuff, now I see him older, weirdly. Right.

Because once you know the deep dive into it. In the interview yesterday, they literally had me bring up my Google search, and it literally was just like, Barry Keegan dating, Barry Keegan, baby mama, Barry Keegan, Sabrina Cartman. They're like, oh my God, you're really obsessed with this person. It's like, no, I watch a movie, and then I got to look up everything. Yeah. Do you do that? Yeah.

Yeah, I just want to see. And that's me with Jeremy Allen White now. We watched The Bear like two nights ago. It is kind of hard to get into. Maybe we should keep watching. I don't know. Would you keep watching it? No.

Okay. Easy. It's just, it's one of those shows, like you said, like Hell's Kitchen. They're just screaming at each other. I read comments about it. Everyone said it. But why is it winning all the awards? That's what the whole show is.

It is a good show. It's them screaming at each other all the time in the kitchen. Season two is less of that, if that encourages you at all. Maybe we should start that. I think I just kind of focused because Malibu was being so cute and funny that night, so I was just laughing with her. So I wasn't really paying attention. But I feel like I probably would like it if I paid attention because it's Chicago. I like Chicago.

I wanted to watch it. And I like him as an actor. I really have no idea what it's about because I just wasn't really paying attention. But I like him. I liked him in Iron Claws. So I don't know. Why did we even get on that? I don't know.

We were talking about queers, and now we're talking about Jeremy Allen White. Because he thought he was queer coded. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, queer coded for sure. I guess Salt Burn's a little queer coded, right? Oh, for sure. Yeah.

Very queer coded because he's kind of like all over the place with boys and girls. Yeah. And the queers love it. Oh. I didn't think the queers love. It's very trendy. Can you say that? The queers?

As a queer person, I think. I'm a queer person too. Yeah, you're queer too. So, yeah. That's crazy. I guess I never knew the label, but I do like that label. I think that's better because you don't know. Because sometimes I'm like, am I bi?

Am I – you know what I mean? And it's like reclaiming the term, too, because queer has always been like very – like used as an insult. So I think recently it's been kind of like reclaimed a bit. Which I'm all for. I love when the words get like reclaimed. Me, too. And the power gets taken back. Yeah, because you hear it and I know it's always like this offensive word you're not supposed to say.

So I'm like, can you say the queers? Yeah. Anyways, we are. We are queer based over here, this podcast. And we love it. All right. So what's happening? It's so weird.

It's like so odd to do this today. I'm just like, I have to feel weird. But there has been like a lot of news this week, weirdly. Yeah. A lot of hot topics. I mean, I feel like we should get into Ari first because it's like the hottest of the topics. Oh, I watched it at 7 a.m. when it came out. Me too. Did you? Oh my god, were you at the premiere?

Because I was. I was watching it. I was like, woo! Oh, you were that early. Yeah. Did you not watch it? Because I saw it and I was up at like 6.45 and I saw, ooh, about to premiere. I saw her posts, her reel about it on Instagram like a minute after and then I immediately went to go watch. So you weren't fresh. How do you feel about the song?

Okay, well like as someone who's never listened to Ariana music before. Loosely. Loosely. Before everyone comes out it's like this. I've heard her songs

but it's not like I was like ooh, this album and this album. You know what I mean? Like yeah, loosely. But this one I think on sex thing is like and everyone like laughed at me but it's like okay

but she's like an actual good singer. Like you see her in like SNL when she does all those impressions of Celine Dion. She's a really good singer. And then she comes out with these songs that literally I could sing. Like, yes, and, uh, uh, uh. You know, it's very like anyone could sing it. I know.

I kind of like that, though, because I know in the context of her album, I think she'll have those crazy vocal songs. But I kind of like when she has the the very controlled restraints like pop songs too. Wait, what song of Ariana's do you think she shows her vocals? Like God is a Woman. I don't know it. You believe God is a woman. Oh. Oh, she does that.

Yeah, it's like the range is like crazy. I guess I know like Thank U, Next and that's it. So I always just think Thank U, next and it sounds like yes and. Dangerous woman. Have you heard that one? Something about you. No. No.

Into you. I'm so into you. I know. This is the part. Wait. When I say I don't want you. Oh. I'm stronger than I've been before.

That sounds like a techno auto tune. That was like an older Ariana song. Yeah, that's not vocals. That sounds like, yeah, that sounds like literally a robot. I remember been before. That sounds like a techno auto-tune. That was like an older Ariana song. Yeah, that's not a vocals. That sounds like, yeah, that sounds like literally a robot. I remember that song. This is the part where,

I mean, I don't hate it, but it's popular. I know the one she did with Mika, Mika played. Oh, yeah. Popular? Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe that manifested her. I'm kind of Ariana Grande to stay with this, I guess. That's the first thing I thought, actually. Oh, okay. A little Glinda,

a little Ariana. I thought it was Ferrari. I just, I don't know. She's always a little underwhelmed me with the music it took me this song you like it um are you a stan i didn't love the song at first but it stayed in my head so i kept going back to listen to it and the more i listened to it the more i like it what's the next words after yes and say that shit with your chest yeah that's what i'm saying like vogue a little bit madonna she interpolated it so it's like

what's interpolated she took like the beat of it and then kind of reworked it. So it's like a sample almost. The music video was horrible. Once you find out that it's like a reference to Paula Abdul, I think that makes more sense. The cold hearted snake looking to his eyes. No, I totally got the reference.

But it gave me more Rachel Berry and Glee when she goes to New York. It is very Rachel Berry coded for sure. Yeah, so I was kind of like But I like her dancing. when she goes to New York. It is very Rachel Berry coded for sure. Yeah, so I was kind of like. But I like her dancing. I think her choreography is cute. It was giving Chicago. It was giving very, I don't know.

I was surprised she didn't cast you as one of the little like critics that were coming in. Oh my God, I would have loved. Can I just say, not to say that this is an original concept. But my Showtime video that came out in 2016, I have critics also saying those very same things. Like, oh, my gosh. Who does Trisha think she is? And it's just a bunch of people talking crap about me. I'm like, hmm, this feels very – I know she didn't thank you next, but it's also very – they copied me.

I literally – I mean, who was it? Oh, I know who it was. Someone said that about Baby Rex copying her with, like, burning a house on fire or something. Oh, yeah. I mean, no original it? Oh, I know who it was. Someone said that about Baby Rex and copying her with like burning a house on fire or something. Oh, yeah. I mean, no original concepts, but just saying. I would. I love that someone said that. Yeah. I know.

Well, bless her heart. She's trying to be. I just saw an update about her and I was like, oh, just let her be at peace. Someone like posted her at a football game and I was like, oh. Oh, I didn't see that. That's cute. Oh, yeah. A couple months ago, she took at a high school football game.

I was like, okay, she's living her best life in private. The only thing that kind of still bugs me about the song is that like, what is she saying it? Why do you care so much about who's guy ride? I, okay, I told that to Moses. I was like, did she actually sing that? Like, was that the lyric?

And I'm like, yes. I didn't expect that. Yeah, he's like, that can't be it. I always hear like this innocent little girl. She's not so innocent. No. No. Her last album was very sexual too, so I cut. Yeah, it's like, that can't be it. Yeah. I always see her as this innocent little girl. She's not so innocent. No. No. Her last album was very sexual, too, so I cut.

She's also not that young. I mean, not whatever. I always think she's like 20. I think she's my age. I think she's 30 or 31. Yeah, I think she's in her 30s. Which, so was Kian's baby mama. Oh, really?

She seems. She's like 32 or something. Oh, she is. I think someone said that. I was like, oh, I thought she was like 22. Me, too. She looks. Very young.

Yeah. Good for her. Good for her. Good for her. But I was like, oh, I thought she was like 22. Me too. She looks. Very young. Yeah. Good for her. Good for her. But I was like, girl, girl. We have to care a little bit about who you ride with that doesn't belong to you legally. You know what I mean? Right.

When it's another woman's. I think that's what people say. Like, you could have anyone. So it's like, that's why we care. That's why I just wish. Like, you don't even have to like fully address it. i love when like especially it's a big comeback single it's like after you've been embroiled in scandal and stuff like you can just like kind of reference like what you did you know yeah to at least know that we know that you know you know like exactly like take accountability

that you're not the victim in this you know it's very colleen coded it's like you're not the victim you know what i mean let's not try to're not the victim. You know what I mean? Let's not try to rewrite the history here. Like, we know what you did, and it's not great, but we are forgiving you. We're still hyping you up. We're still streaming. Yeah. So don't go back and, like, gaslight us and make us think, like, we're the stupid ones.

I know. That's the one thing I was like, I love Ariana. I do really love her. I think she's, like, the sweetest person. But why can't you just be like, oopsie? Like, I love Ariana. I do really love her. I think she's, like, the sweetest person. But why can't you just be like, oopsie? Like, you know? Or, like, making your brand kind of like the break up with your girlfriend part two she could have done. You know what I mean?

And we're like, we got to have Ethan in the video. And, like, reclaim the image. Like, you know what I mean? But instead, like, being so, like, love and light. Like, positive, sweetie. Like, I did nothing wrong. I'm like, you know. Yeah, oh, no. And actually, that's the thing that pissed me off. I'm just like, oh, like I did nothing wrong. Yeah, oh no. And actually, that's the things that piss me off.

I'm just like, oh my God. Like it's like, oh, it just makes me so mad because it's like, are they actually the victim in their head or like they are just like being Delulu or they're gaslighting people?

I don't know. It just makes me so mad. I know. I know. Just move on. Be with him. Have him in your music video. Do whatever.

But it's just like so. So her album is called like Eternal Sunshine, which is like obviously like a reference to, I guess her her favorite movies, like Eternal Sunshine. Never would think that with her. Also, that movie is not great. And I love Jim Carrey.

What are the initials of Eternal Sunshine? Oh. Oh, my God. I know. That's. And there's this whole. This is the part that definitely has lost me. But there's this whole conspiracy theory that people think that Ariana and Ethan are secretly married and stuff, which is like-

What? No, I don't see that. I don't believe that at all. I could see them having maybe a baby, though, because I think she's at that age, although he just had a baby, so I don't know. I know. Oh, my God. That, to me, is the saddest part, because even if things are so horrible, just having

a baby so young, it's just better to have a person helping you than not, even if it's like, unless he's abusing her or something like that, you know what I mean, obviously, but if it's like, I'm sure that helping you than not. Even if it's, like, unless he's, like, abusing her or something like that. You know what I mean? Obviously. But if it's, like, I'm sure that wasn't the case. I don't know. It's just, like, so sad to me to, like, when they're that young to not. I think I could be won over more easily if, like, I keep saying this.

If Ethan's ex-wife didn't talk to Page Six about, like, Ariana not being a girl's girl and that, you know, she, like, wrecked her home. You know what I mean? Yeah. not being a girl's girl and that, you know, she like wrecked her home. You know what I mean? If like his ex-wife Lily didn't say this stuff, it would be easier to digest and like understand like maybe the narrative is like a little bit more complex than, you know, just like Ariana stealing her man, whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah, because maybe they were apart for a while. Yeah.

Which like you had a baby, so it can't be apart that long, you know? Or like she wasn't shocked. Maybe there was like a separation already. Yeah. You know what I mean? But the fact that Lily was like hurt by it, like, look at everything a little sideways. Yeah, of course. And, like, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, Ariana could just, like, live her life.

But then to, like, throw that in there, it's like, this is why we care. And it's like, maybe she doesn't get it. And that's what I'm saying. Maybe these people don't get it. So it's, like, important to just keep calling them out a little bit. Because maybe they don't. She doesn't get what she's doing, really. You know what I mean?

Maybe, I don't know. You know, she's probably really smart and talented and everything else. So there's maybe one thing that's a little off. And they don't she doesn't get what she's doing really you know what i mean maybe i don't know you know she's probably really smart and talented and everything else so there's maybe one thing that's a little off and maybe that's what relationships should understand like oh someone's married you don't like date them yeah and i i also like need to draw back to ethan because i'm sure he was feeding her a narrative that like was very different from what his ex-wife lily has told page six you know what i mean like I'm sure there's some, but then again, then I go back and forth because she liked the Instagram of the baby. You know what I mean?

Yeah, no, for sure. She knew. She knew. It's definitely there. It is. Yeah. Because I think even if someone's telling you like, oh, I'm going to leave, because I feel like I've been in those situations.

I'm going to leave this person. We're not happy together. And then they end up like staying together or whatever. Even if someone's telling you that when you can see that they just had like a baby and you like the photo, it's just like one of those things where it's like also why would you want to be involved in the person's baby and if that person leaves their baby that you know young or whatever it's like who's to say and it does always happen there was somebody recently where it's like if it if they do it to you like it's just like it's gonna if they do it with you like cheetah with you they'll

like cheat on you like sort of thing there was someone recently who was it do you remember i can't remember obviously we're coming for ari for Ariana, but Ethan's not escaped my sight either. He's still the main perpetrator. He's just a little cutie, though, to me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's just a spam bot. SpongeBob is catching some smoke from me, and he will always be catching smoke from me. You're the reverse of misogynistic.

You're like— It's misandrist, but whatever. I'll take it. Yeah, I'm like— Because I am one, so. You're like, I know what it is. You really are. And I'm the little misogynist in here where I'm like, oh, but Ethan's justandrist. But whatever. I'll take it. Yeah. I'm like, you really – Because I am one. You're like, I know what it is. You really are. And I'm the little misogynist in here where I'm like, oh, but Ethan's just like precious.

The little Spongebob boy. He can put on – he can be a little baby in the photos. That's what Spamalot – I don't care what play he's – It's so good. Being in. If he's a baby, he has the freaking Spongebob pants on. He's catching smoke from me.

I love him. So obviously I'm a little peeved with Ariana, but I still love that girl. So Ethan will still be catching smoke from me. Period. So obviously I'm a little peeved with Ariana, but I still love that girl. That's so funny. So Ethan will still be catching smoke from me. I'm still an Ethan fan. If there's one Ethan Slater, it's me. If there's no Ethan Slater fans, I'm dead. That is wild. That is wild stance.

Hot take. I love a musical theater boy. You know, what can I say? No, it is the whole thing it is weird I'm so conflicted to it especially with that's the pretty privilege

where it comes in where it's like someone's just like pretty and I'm just like I love their aesthetic like I just love her perfume I love her being I love her aesthetic

but I just don't love it I love her speaking I love the way she talks I love her demeanor pretty privilege yeah but it's also she's so sweet in every other aspect

of her life so it's like you can't put her in a corner of oh she's just like a bad person or whatever because she i do genuinely think she is like very very sweet and like kind and has a good heart but you know good people make bad choices i know so that's kind of just what it comes down to

right because she doesn't she's sweet to her fans which i always think is very telling she's really good friends with zach was like one of my favorite people in the whole world so i'm like well he'd be a good judge of character but yeah i think that's the thing it's like there is like such sweet people who just like i'm, maybe she doesn't know. Maybe she really doesn't know. Maybe she thinks she's just, whatever she's doing is fine. She's like, oh, well, the guy's telling me like it's over.

It's over. Speaking of musicals, did you see Mean Girls yet? Or no? I mean, it just came out. Oh, I know. No, I want to see it. I haven't seen it. Well, I've seen, okay, I have seen like when people record it and put it on TikTok.

Which is wild to me. I don't, I don't like when people do that because it kind of ruins the film. Kind of ruins it. But I kind of like to see the sneak peek of it because obviously, did you see the one where everyone gasped when the musical number would start? And everyone's like, no! Because they just don't mark it as a musical.

But then I saw people in the musical world that love Mean Girls the musical. They're like, but it was also awful for us musical fans because it wasn't giving musical. They had slowed down tempos. Somewhere a weird hybrid. Yeah, they like changed a lot of the notes for the actors to hit, which is like, it's just not the musical. Like obviously Renee Rapp can hit everything. So they like kept hers the same, but it's just all the other like plastics and stuff like that. They changed like their, what is it? Key, I guess, to like be like lower

and more in their range. But the thing with Broadway is what makes it so amazing is like just the range that they have and like the voice. So I did see the clip of Karen's sexy – did you watch it? Did you see it? Yes, I saw it last night. Oh, you watched it? Oh, I should have gone. Honestly, I had such a long day. Yeah, I was going to say.

I was like, oh, you should see Mean Girls, but I knew you had such a long day. No, you honestly should have told me. I probably – I could have rallied myself. I fell asleep right when I got home at like 6, but I probably could have rallied myself. Damn. Oh, man. I kind of thought about it too because everyone was talking about it and I was like, oh, I really want to chime in.

Okay. I mean the difference with me is like I don I don't have any, like, familiarity with, like, the Broadway show. Yeah. So I kind of went into it blind, you know. But I really enjoyed it. I thought it was really good. I mean, Renee is just, like, so hot. Like, she is so good.

The reviews are really, really positive. I think it has, like, a 75 on, like, Rotten Tomatoes, which is, for films nowadays, especially are really, really positive. I think it has like a 75 on like Rotten Tomatoes, which is for films nowadays, especially like teen films, like is so good. And every review is like praising her and like saying that this is like her big, like breakout, like movie star role.

Wow. Yeah. Okay, that's good. Cause I haven't really heard much. It's, the reviews have all been very, very positive. I don't read reviews, I don't know. Yeah. And even like Hunger Games didn't get like a, this Rachel Zegler one didn't get like a good review from like men you know because it is

like musically and it's like you know leading a young girl leading it so i expected men to kind of be hard on it but even the straight guys are giving a good review how do you know how do you know they're straight i watch like all the youtube the youtuber film critics who the straight guys like because i feel like even straight guys don't like mean girls i know that's what a lot of them said they said oh we just uh i just watched mean girls like a year ago you know like they never went and they're like middle-aged men makes me not want to watch it if straight men are like no but the movie theater was so fun because it's you might want to go in the morning because it was all girlies and gays which is right but we saw

priscilla was all these girlies and i like i had to run i was like booked in there all these pictures i was like i mean love it i'm famous but so it was really fun because like the energy in the theater was like, it was like, it's like being in here. You know, things were pink and like girls were giggling and it was just, it was fun. It was good. What, did you go to AMC? Yes. Did you get the burn book?

Did you get the AMC? No. Did they have them? They did. But then it was like, my Aero's popcorn tub is here and like I never use it. So I'm like, I guess I shouldn't. Well, when you got the Aero's popcorn, did they put the popcorn in the bucket? They had the option to, but I chose not to.

I don't know why I did that. Oh, they don't even use the option. They just give us the clean ones. And then they give us like a regular popcorn thing. And I'm like, but I want to eat it out of this because I will never use it again. Yeah. Yeah, I saw the burn bucket. It looks cool.

It's really cute. All the pink stuff is really cute. But yeah, I enjoyed it a lot. But you're right. I noticed especially for Angry, who plays Katie, her singing, I almost think they should have put like a Zac Efron high school musical when they mix another person. Because she's like, it's like sing talking. And it's like. Really?

And today I'm going to do this. Like, it's all very that. Is she not a singer? I don't know. I don't think she's a singer. Oh, I'm surprised they didn't cast someone Broadway for it. I know. Well, even the guy who plays Aaron Samuels, he, like, specifically said, like, I won't sing.

So he has all the Aaron Samuels songs were cut. Yikes. Well, maybe they should have done that in the musical, because I saw Cameron Dallas, and look, I'm all for horrible singers being on Broadway, because I am one, and I would love to be on Broadway, but it was horrible. Like, he was, the singing was terrible. Really?

But, but, but, to cut, like, because they cut a lot of Katie songs, too, in the musicals from what I heard of the movie. And it's like Katie has such strong vocals in the musical, especially the original one. Sabrina Carpenter played Katie. I know. I saw that. And to cut that is, like, so sad. To cut all of Aaron Samuel's songs is crazy.

So he's the only one that doesn't sing? I read that they cut Damien's songs. I mean, he sings a lot, but it's, like, songs in, like, an ensemble, you know, or, like, him and Janice. No. But, like, his, his like solo songs he doesn't have. He has solo songs. Yeah, yeah. Because he's such a good vocalist. He's really good acting and singing in the movie version too.

Why don't they cast singers? I don't understand that. Like with like such – I guess it's not really – they cut a lot of songs. I guess they're not trying to market it as a musical. But yeah, Rene Rapp was like the best singer ever and then you're casting all mid-singers. Like that's why I'm like, okay. That's why I'm excited to see Wicked, because they casted, like, just two good singers. And as they should, because, like, Wicked is, like, the hardest-seeing musical to sing.

But Mean Girls has such powerful, strong songs. And I'm, like, it made me kind of sad that they, like, chintzed out on, like, not having singers in it. I have such a crush on Rene Rapp. Like, I am so obsessed with her. I've always loved her, but damn. She's so good. She's hot. I saw her in the original Broadway so many times. Oh, that's a flex. I wish. Oh've always loved her, but damn. She's so good. She's hot. I saw her in the original Broadway so many times.

That's a flex. I wish. Oh, she was like 19. She was like so young in it. She was like so, so good. Because I imagine she's even better now because like your vocals get better as you get older. I think better than Rachel McAdams. The way that she acts.

Oh. Yeah, easily. I can't even get over it. Like every line she had was like so powerful. The faces she makes. Like she's so good at emoting. I'm like, oh, my God. I love her.

You don't think the trailer did it justice? No. Because I remember her in the trailer, and I was like, I don't know. I'm serious. Yeah. And the outfits didn't distract you because I haven't seen it. To me, it was very, like, made – it was, like, TV movie vibes almost because it was supposed to be Paramount Plus originally. So everybody was kind of giving that.

Okay. originally so it was kind of giving that okay i think if they had this like a really slay stylist but like with a little bit more like budget for the wardrobe it would have like ate down it would have been like iconic high school movie fashion you know i wish it kind of gave it a little bit more the person how they styled renee i didn't really like yeah i feel like they just didn't flatter her but it wasn't too distracting that's good okay yeah because i saw i was seeing them i was like oh i don't know because again, the Broadway show has such good outfits. They're casual high school outfits, but they're just like good and they're strong and you remember all of it.

It did make me sad, though. Renee had to delete her Twitter because people were like commenting on like the Regina, her body as Regina George. So I saw that and I was like, wait, I thought people rallied behind her because she wasn't like a size zero. You know, I thought people were excited about that. I think there's both sides of the coin and I think seeing a lot of people say

Regina should be this way. Like obviously like even for us like the good stuff like we see it and we appreciate it but it's like that bad stuff that really like

messes with your head. Did it have the fat phobia of the original movie? Because the original movie she definitely was like you know, anti-fat. Like she wanted to be

a size zero and she's like oh we don't have a bigger size. Oh no, a lot of that stuff is cut. Like she's still like oh I want to lose three pounds but like she's like, oh, we don't have a bigger size. Oh, no. A lot of that stuff is cut. Like, she's still like, oh, I want to lose three pounds.

But, like, that's as far as the weight stuff goes. Right. Yeah. But a lot of, like, the fat phobia. But the sweatpants, like, those are all that fit me right now. That still is in there. Yeah. Yeah.

But. Because they try to make her fat, which is kind of fat phobia in my opinion, right? They give her, like, Kelty bars. Yeah. To make her, like, gain weight or whatever. But it's not, like, a huge. It's not, like, as pervasive pervasive as like the original, I think. Oh, okay.

They cut something. Even like the coach with like relationship with a student, they cut that out too, you know? Oh, God. Thank God. That was always off-putting. I was like, this is odd. Yeah. So they kind of like cleaned it up a little bit, which –

Yeah, I feel – I kind of feel for her because in one – obviously looking, I'm like, oh, I love that someone is not a size zero. But like with her hearing that, does that make her feel bad? Because she's in one, obviously looking, I'm like, oh, I love that someone is not a size zero, but like, with her hearing that, does that make her feel bad? Because she's not fat, obviously, but in her head then, does that make her feel bad? Because she's not,

like, does she think she has to lose weight because she's, everyone's like, oh, she's not a size zero, she's not as thick, we love this.

Yeah, she actually, she was on Call Her Daddy and she kind of talked about that. She talked about being on, doing it on the Broadway and they would like, change the outfits for her

and they would have to adjust like what she was wearing and the sizes and stuff and then she would go do an interview and people would talk about her size and she like, hated it. In what way? In like, oh, like, changed outfits for her, and they would have to adjust, like, what she was wearing and the sizes and stuff. And then she would go do an interview. People would talk about her size, and she, like, hated it. In what way? In, like, a – oh, like –

Like a praising way. Like a curvy – yeah, yeah, yeah. But even, like, that was just, like – Right. You don't want to be, like, labeled the curvy Regina George, you know? I know, but in, like, for us curvy and fat people, it's, like, it makes us feel better, even though – like, it's like the Bridget, you know, of the girls' store. It's, like, seeing someone who's not a size zero is, zero is like good but i know people do get offended when you call them

curvy but it's like it's not offensive but it sucks that she feels she doesn't like that you know what i mean it's very dysphoric because she also like has suffered from ed for and she her background originally was dance and like when you come from that world especially like it's all so like being you know thin or whatever so i think when you're kind of like made to think that this one body type is like what should be you know and then yeah just genetically fit into that like it's very like yeah it goes back to like just don't come on anyone's body yeah but it's just like it should be just like noted and like celebrated and i feel like that's what makes her like stand out is that like you know she's the lead in the mean girls as a plastic who's supposed

to be like the most popular most popular, most desired girl. And, like, Shannazir, I think that's, like, a good thing. But then I was like, oh, people do get triggered by that. But I think it's, like, I don't know. I wish she – but I get it. I get when he, like, – for me, too. It's, like, I mean, now I've just, like, owned it. But, I mean, I already – in my last interview with Sugar and Spice, I already talked about my body size again.

I was like, oh, my God. Or the brick one. I was talking about her. I was like, oh, my God. I literally can't help myself. And I feel like that's just what the world we live in and it's no matter what people will always comment

on people's body size and there's just nothing we can do about it honestly and it sucks but she's not fat obviously she's not even plus size but it's just nice to have representation

of people not on Ozempic yeah how was um was it Busy Phillips as Regina's mom oh she was cute too yeah I know you could've done better

I really could've I feel I love the cool mom vibes. We have a guest coming next week, and she wants to cosplay. And she's like, do you want to cosplay? And I was like, yes. And we were trying to figure out how to cosplay. I was going to cosplay her because she has a very, like, unique look. And then she was going to, like, do me as Trip Walton, which was, like, random.

She was, like, came up with that. I was like, oh, okay, random. But then we decided to do Regina and Regina's mom because she had, like, a Regina's mom look in one of her photo shoots. And she looks like a Regina. So I was like, let's be Mean Girls. I'm like really excited. Sorry. I love the whole cool mom vibes.

Oh, God, I wish I could have been her. Oh, that would have been so great. One day I'll be in a movie. Oh, I believe it. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. So Mean Girls is a, what would you rate it? Let's see.

At a five star, maybe like a 3.75. Wow. You're a tough critic. Dang. Everyone wants you to make a litter box to count, by the way. A litter box? What am I, a cat? What is a litter box?

A litter box. What is that? Did you tell me this? Why do I? Oh, you told me about this. I'm like, what is this? I don't think you explained it to me. Maybe you did.

I was tired. I fell asleep all day yesterday, last night. What's a litter box? Letter box. I just knew there was no point. Did you? What? You told me this.

Was I sleeping when you told me this? No. I felt knew there was no point. Did you? What? You told me this. Was I sleeping when you told me this? No. I feel like I was dreaming. Huh? I think at night it's always you have to sleep. Oh, my God. I was so tired last night. I just get – I don't know what it is.

I just guessed that you're like – like playlists. You share what you watch. Yeah. You watch – whatever you watch, you just – you rate and you write a little review. It's kind of – and like – it's kind of like Twitter almost but like for film reviews because you write a review and people just like to share thoughts on movies. I don't like to leave reviews. I think it's a waste of time for me.

Well, I'm going to help you figure it out. I never leave. Most of Lee's reviews, you should have a letterbox. He loves to review everything. Anything we go to, he leaves a review. He's like, they should call this sticky rice. I was like, okay, we don't need the whole thing. If it's food related, I try to help people so they don't go somewhere expecting one thing and finding a different thing.

Or just watch this podcast. I tell you right here my opinion and what I watch and what I know. Is it big? Is it popular? Can you get followers? It is very popular. Is it monetizable? Yeah.

I don't think it's monetizable. But it is very popular. Patreon. Go to my Patreon. Why don't I do a letterbox on Patreon? I'll tell you each week what I watch. There you go. We'll put it on the $10 tier. Oh to my Patreon. Why don't I do a letterbox on Patreon? I'll tell you each week what I watch. There you go. We'll put it on the $10 tier.

Oh, my God. That's funny. No, but you know, I don't watch – you are a cinephile, so it kind of makes sense for you. I love that. For me, it's like – The cinephile is a little off-putting, that term. Just the file part, I think, is what's throwing you off. I know.

Whenever I hear that, I'm like, oh. Yeah, I should. Honestly, we watch – we do watch a lot. I try to watch everything. And you I'm like, ugh. Yeah, I should. Honestly, we do watch a lot. I try to watch everything. And you see, like, big serious movies. I'm, like, the most unserious. I'm, like, Godzilla or something. You know what I mean? No, I would not see Godzilla. I saw Previews 4, and I was like, ooh, see that movie.

Me. I love it. Yeah. Okay, well, you on our Patreon can review the unserious ones. I love a serious one. Anything for Oscars, I'm just so... Are you part of the union? Do you get the screeners? Sometimes. I can't believe you don of the union? Do you get the screeners? Sometimes. I can't believe you don't watch biopics. Those are unserious.

That's wild to me that you don't. They're so good. I watch a biopic for like... I was going to say like a Captain America biopic. That's just Captain America, I guess. I just need somebody like... I need some explosions, some fights. I'm a very ADHD boy when it comes to movies. Well, Elvis would be perfect for you, which is like flashing lights.

That's so long. Did you try? Try. It's flashy. I was in the other room when my boyfriend was watching it. That doesn't count. I heard it, but I fell asleep. Oh, my God.

It's so good. Oh, my God. It's so good. Well, I love it. But yeah, I like the seriousness. I love biopics. I don't know. I guess because I don't like documentaries. So to me God. It's so good. Well, I love it. But, yeah, I like the seriousness. I love biopics. I don't know. I guess because I don't like documentaries.

So, to me, it feels like a documentary. I hate documentaries when there's, like, nobody playing them. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, I try to watch the Gypsy Rose documentary, and I was like, eh, I'd rather watch the act. You know what I mean? Like, I want to see someone act it out, you know? It's just more compelling.

I cry. I don't know. I get really involved with the biopics. But, no, I'll review. I love going to see movies, too. I love to see movies. I even watched what was that horrible one that came out last year. My Big Fat Greek Wine for Me. I no, I'll get a review. I love going to see movies too. I love to see movies. I even watched what was that horrible one that came out last year.

My big fat Greek wine for me. I knew you were going to say it. Yeah. I saw it. That's the day I found out I was pregnant. We already had tickets to go see it with my mom at noon. And I was like, do you still want to go? Like you just found out you're pregnant.

This is so exciting. I'm like, yeah, because I wanted to get popcorn and nachos. And it was the worst movie. I'm just sitting there. I'm like, this movie sucks. Like why am I sitting here? I just wanted to finish the popcorn with it really. But maybe I'll do that.

Maybe I'll do Letterboxd of the week or something on my Patreon. Because that's just like typing it out too. Or I could do a video on it. But don't upload it to Letterboxd either, Snapchat. I don't want people stealing my content and being like, oh, go to Letterboxd. Is it Letterboxd.com or is it an app or what is it? I actually don't know. It might be a Patreon actually that they try to. Oh. That's where it's on?

Patreon? I think it's like $5 to join. I could 100% be wrong. We just did the Letterboxd Patreon. Like, wait, not what? I mean, is that an original concept? Reviewing new booze? I don't know.

That's crazy. So they charge $5 and other people have to contribute? I could be wrong. Where did you hear this? Where did you hear that they want me on Letterboxd? People have commented on our Patreon and on Reddit. so i'm so sorry to the reddit people like me i think you were looking the other day and it was like nice and i'm like you know i don't want to start reading the nice ones even because i just will get addicted again i'll be sucked back

into the reddit hole yeah even when guests come on i always want to go on their reddits to see like what people want to know and i'm just like i don't want to get sucked into i've done so good i think it's been august of last year that I haven't even typed in Reddit. So I just like need to steer clear. But you were on it the other day and you're like, oh, they're nice or like whatever. And I was like,

I was like looking over and I was like, no, I don't want to see. Yeah. At least you have people to like filter the good stuff to you. It's like very celebrity. Like, you know,

Taylor Swift doesn't read good stuff about her, but someone brings a good stuff to her. Oh, okay. Perfect. So you're kind of like that. And the bad stuff.

Ever since you met Lucy DeLuca, it's been on my mind every interview. It's all I think about now. I'm just like, oh my God. I'm so excited to see what Sugar and Spice had to say. Oh my God. And the bad stuff. Ever since you met Lucy DeLuca, it's been on my mind every interview. It's all I think about now. I'm just like, oh, my God. I'm so excited to see what Sugar and Spice had to say. Oh, my God. They were being nice.

They were being so nice. And at the end, they're like, oh, was it too shady? I was like, you guys were literally so nice. They could have been. Because they said, spoiler alert, because it's coming up, they actually said that she was, when people were kind of being mean to them during press week or whatever, that Lucy reached out and was like, you know, everything's okay. And she was being really nice.

Yeah. But anyways, that's all I talked about. I kept talking about Lucy DeLuca like, you know, everything's okay. And she was being really nice. Anyways, that's all I talked about. I kept talking about Lucy every 20 minutes. That's funny. Tracy talked about you today on, what's it called? What's one? On the pit stop today with Brittany Broski. Oh, and what did they say?

Is it bad or good? Because sometimes you'd be giving me the bad news. No, it was good. I mean. Why do you say it like that? Your voice went up. You're like, no, it's good. Because it was like, he was complimenting Brittany about how she looked.

And said she kind of looked like Trisha Paytas. And what did Brittany say? She liked it. And then she quoted your, huh, what meme. So it was cute. Okay, good. Yeah. Getting nervous, you know.

I never know. Because we've had people, because people want Brittany Broski on. We've had people reach out to her. And I'm just like, I've heard crickets. Not from her, but from my people. So sometimes I'm always like, ooh, that good or bad? You know what I mean? Then it's totally fine.

Nobody has to come on. No pressure. But so many people at the beginning of this was like, get Brandi Broskian. And I don't really know her that well like that. So I was like, okay, that's fine. But anyways, good. Glad. Love it.

Because it's another thing where it's like, is it a compliment or is it an insult for someone to say you look like Trisha Paytas? You know what I mean? It's like, oh, no, I don't want to look like her. No, I was met with love, I think. It wasn't like a shady. What was she dressed like? Was she dressed like this?

I feel a little Trixie today with my hair. You are a little Trixie. It's a little bit. Oh, that cat. My glamour. It was on the podcast. I'm like, no one.

It's literally just. I found this wig off Instagram. Michelle, Girl of Vanity Wig. Shout out. They do like pre-made wigs. I'm like, this wig is for sale. 130 bucks. I'm like, okay, I'll buy it.

And then it came and it looked crazy. I mean, it's beautiful, but this is not meant for sale, $130. I'm like, okay, I'll buy it. And then it came and it looked crazy. I mean, it's beautiful, but this is not meant for me, clearly. But maybe it'll be on my posh. I wonder if you can sell wigs on posh. I don't know. Probably. I like the tinsel in it, though. It's sweet.

Thanks. Give me tinsel hair, Barbie. I don't know. I feel awesome because I'm like 35. I just feel like a little cuckoo, like a cuckoo lady that would go to the grocery store dressed like this. And they're like, oh, okay. No, I love it. Grandma's out.

You know what I mean? The wig reminds me of the Getty images that they always use from the- Oh, that's the one that's loving your big brother. It's giving that vibe. Yeah. You said I look cute. You're like, you look cute. Now you're saying I look like that.

Why? Who said that picture's not cute? It's Oscar. He's like, ET is this horrible one. It's because it's the one where you're mid-run. Like, it's always, yeah. Yeah, I hate that one. No, I look crazy. one where you're mid-run. Like, it's always – yeah. Yeah, I hate that one. No, I look crazy.

The glam was crazy. I had, like, red lips and I never wear that. I looked nuts. But I know. I need to get a new Getty image. I got to go somewhere just to get a new Getty image so people can use those. Well, after Gigi says she just sends her – she, like, Facetunes and sends me – Because she's a Getty.

I know. So I'm like, we got to – when Gigi comes back, that should be the Patreon video is you guys submitting your Getty images. Wait, so Trix she's a Getty. I know. So I'm like, we got to, when Gigi comes back, that should be the Patreon videos you guys submitting your Getty images. Wait, so Trixie's on Pit Stop this whole season? Uh-huh. I'm not into it this season.

Are you? For Drag Race, the show? I watched it, yeah. I think because they're split, it really like slows everything down. Like I just want it all at once. I was telling my boyfriend

that yesterday too. I was like, I wish these, they just had them all at once and I want to just see them all together. Because right now, it's like a slow, a slow start. Yeah. Yeah. It's very slow. I was like, I wish these, they just had them all at once and I want us to see them all together because right now it's like a slow, a slow start.

Yeah, it's very slow. It's very, I like a lot of the queens. Moses thinks every queen looks like a queen from the previous season. There's one,

he's like, that looks like Lucy DeLuca and it was like, do you know what we're talking about with this? What is, I don't even know her name. There's,

do you know? She's like, you don't know. She's like, it's white blonde. What was her, what was her talent at the talent show? I can't even remember. And then the other one looks like, you don't know. She's like, ooh. I guess white, blonde. What was her talent at the talent show? I can't even remember.

And then the other one looks like, who was the runner-up last season? Anitra. Anitra. There's one that looks like Anitra from Vegas. Yeah. And she does the death drops and everything. I think she said she was like Anitra's. They work together, yeah.

But every queen that came out, he's like, that looks like that. First of all, I love that you remember all the names. He'd be like, this person, this person. I was like, oh, yeah. The Lucy one got me. I was like, yeah, that's Lucy Luca. Mark my words, Snatch Game. That person's going to be of all, I love that you remember all the names. He'd be like, this person, this person. I was like, oh yeah, it's yeah. The Lucy one got me. I was like, yeah, that's Lucy Luca.

Mark my words, Snatch Game, that person's gonna be Joan Rivers, I bet. Mark my words, I get it. The talent show was good.

No, they're good. They're all really talented and pretty and I got really into it. It's just slow when they split this premiere and then the energy

is like half what the energy should be. Yeah, because there's just a small group of people and it's just like, okay. It's like what the show would be like towards the end.

You know what I mean? Right, when it's like smaller. But you know them, so you're more invested. Like when you're just meeting people and it's like half, it's like, you know. But we've got to get more drag queens on. I really want – I have an outfit being made. And Lux hasn't answered my – replied to my DM.

She DM'd me and then I DM'd her, but then she hasn't replied. She's in the UK right now, so maybe that's why. Well, I mean, she probably has the internet. But she's at DragCon, so DragCon is crazy. Mistress is there too. I saw'd her. But then she hasn't replied. She's in the UK right now. So maybe that's why. Well, I mean, she probably has the internet. But she's at DragCon. So DragCon is crazy. Mistress is there, too. I saw Mistress there. Because I have an outfit getting made.

One of Lux's outfits from last season getting made by the person who made it. She's, like, in Chicago. So I'm like, it's a really, like, custom, expensive one. So I'm like, I hope Lux comes on because it's being made. It's okay, Lux. If you're out there, I'm getting a costume made exactly from the lady that you tagged. And it's expensive. and I'm pregnant. So I'm probably going to look crazy in it.

But I really – because I had so much fun with Sugar and Spice when they came on because I did do like the full on like drag. And they were like – as soon as they told me, like, you're a drag queen. And I felt so cool. So I was – even today, I guess that's why I'm my drag queen. I just felt very like – I don't know. I really like to dress up. It was fun. So I would absolutely love any drag queen, even Lucy DeLuca.

Gia Gunn is probably my number one. Like I need – Oh, okay. I love her. You told me about her. Yeah. You and Gia would be the energy would be insane. I love her. Okay, Gia, come on. Okay, well, you'd be a co-host that day, too. Okay, Gia Gunn. And I've been listening to the Not Gorge

podcast. Have you listened to that one? No. With Gottmik and... Oh, and Violet. Yes. Yeah, yeah. That's a really cute podcast. I love them, too. Yes so I want them on the podcast too they're very nice yeah got Mick took the very sweet

like the clip of me the Gigi moment yeah he ended up being nice about it because I was like oh I don't know I never know how it comes across because that one truly was one

where I felt like embarrassed like usually I don't feel embarrassed I'm like okay it's cute it's funny it's working but that one I was like oh my god I was like so embarrassed but anyways

love the drag race all the men and women. And Dana and the non-binaries. And the non-binaries on there? Oh, for sure. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah.

Canada's drag race has a lot of like – because there's a lot of native queens or like indigenous queens. Oh, okay. So there's a lot of just like non-binaries on Canada. Love that. I feel like the non-binary representation is going down a little bit. You know what I mean? And I kind of love that it's coming back up again. I think the Canada's drag race is fun because they actually like explain and they talk about

it, especially like learning about indigenous queens because it's very different what they believe in, you know? So it's very interesting. What do they believe in? It's like there's a lot of like two spirits. So that's how like why they're non-binary because they believe they're both like man and woman. So yeah, it's very cool.

Oh, I like that. I like that they believe both because like I always, when I was like delving into it, the binary, I was like, oh, you just don't want to be identified as either one. Like you just want to be existing. But I always related to like I wanted to be both man and woman. You know what I mean? Yeah. But it is like for me it's confusing.

And like other people I thought it was like confusing. So that's interesting. I love it. Maybe I'll have one of them on. Yeah. I love the Canada Drag Race. That would be so good. Oh, okay.

Well, we're a drag race fans over career. That would be so good. Okay, well, we're Drag Race fans over here. Shout out Trixie and Brittany. They're like a duo, but I don't think I can infiltrate that duo. I think they're pretty strong. You know when they have a good thing that works? It's like Katya and Brittany and Trixie. You can't really infiltrate that. They have their thing, and then as soon as I come in, they'll be like,

not Trixie. We hate Trixie. And then I ruin their whole brand, and then it's just like the worst thing ever. But she does have a Malibu Barbie room at the Trixie Motel. But it's adults only. So we can't bring Malibu Barbie. I get it. Trixie doesn't like kids. Oh.

Okay. What do you mean? What does that mean? Okay. I get it. But what does that mean? She's just like, I hate kids. Yeah.

She just doesn't like kids. Yeah. Love. I respect it. I didn't either before I had kids. I don't even like kids now except my own. When I go to the indoor playgrounds, I'm like, oh my God. Yeah.

I have to really make this effort to start liking kids because she has to have friends and stuff like that. But it can be difficult because a lot of these kids are little snot nose kids. My daughters are perfect angel, but I get it. I get it. I love when people just say that though. Like, I just don't like kids. I know.

I love it because Trixie and Katya can like literally say anything and it's like they're just Trixie and Katya. You know what I mean? It's so funny. No, no, no. For sure. There's certain people who can get us to get away with anything. Speaking of, Renee raps on Call Her Daddy. I'm on Call Her Daddy today. You guys go check it out. Oh, it comes out today. Yeah, it comes out today. I guess they tease the guests. I think I said it on Brooke's episode and everyone's like, no, they tease the guests on Monday and you're supposed to guess. I didn't know. I was like, whatever. I'm going to call my daddy.

It might be a controversial interview. I don't know. I remember telling Moses, did I say too much? Like I for some reason started spilling like every tea that I've ever had about like my personal life. I actually had a lot of edits on that because I was like I did have them cut out some stuff. But also if I had them cut out the stuff I wanted to cut out, sometimes the other stuff doesn't make sense. So it's probably going to be really messy and weird and people are going to be like,

what the hell? Like the stuff I said, I just started saying and I didn't realize it. That's funny because that's the experience a lot of people say they have here. Like they just talk and they don't realize it. They just like let it out. Yeah. Well, you know, I guess that's the talent of it all because she was really nice and really cool. And I just, yeah, I just was talking way too much and kind of spilled. I don't know. I think I went okay. I don't know. Who knows?

Sometimes, I don't know. I never know how those things go. Moses said it was fine, so. It was a great interview. What was it? She was cracking up. She was cracking her up the whole time. But then I wonder if she's like that with everyone.

It was funny. She's very Oscar-coded that way where she laughs at everything. And I'm just like, but would you laugh at everything about everybody? Because you laugh, like, I think, at everybody. That's your character. You're like the David Dobrik laugh track. You're like there. You're laugh track. You're like there. You're just like.

I think I'm giggly and I'm very easily entertained, I think. But I think you're like that with everybody. Not. Oh, certainly not everybody. No? No. I have to genuinely like. Think about the people who I giggle with.

It's like people I like. Who do you also giggle with? You. Brooke. I feel like you giggle with everyone. When you've been here before, I feel like you've giggled with everybody. Gigi. Obviously with the girlies we have here, I'm going to giggle. Okay. Okay. But I think if I was just walking down the street and someone was ch've been here before, I feel like you've giggled with everyone. With Gigi? Obviously, with the girlies we have here,

I'm going to giggle. Okay, okay. But I think if I was just walking down the street and someone was chit-chatting, I wouldn't just be like, ha, ha, ha. But I think in a podcast,

I think you would. I think if there was another guest here, you would always be the girl. I think they're entertaining. Like when Gia Gunn is here, I'll be freaking cackling the house down,

boots, you know? Cackling the boots house down. You're funny. Because she was cracking up and I'm like, I don't think I'm this funny. Like, I definitely not. You are.

Like everyone else in the room did too. Because after that, we were filming a few things and it was funny. But you know what's funny? It's like it wasn't like a funny interview though.

When I kind of think back about it, I was like, oh, it kind of got dark. Because you said the other lady that was in the room with you was like, oh, is this okay that she's talking

like this personal, this deep? No, she was like, this is the most vulnerable I've seen Trisha. Which is like, I mean, I guess. I think it's part of it is not funny. It's outrageous.

Really? I don't think it was. Oh, my God. Tricia, no. You know, that part. But it wasn't even funny. I was like, oh, yeah, I got kidnapped a few times when I was 18. That's what she did.

And I was like, oh, my God. It was like so dark. And I was like, do I wake up about this? Because it was like kind of dark. And at the time, you don't think anything of it. I like woke up in someone's pickup truck. And I was like, maybe this is too dark. But she was like laughing, just like you. And I was like, do I want to talk about this? Because it was like kind of dark. And at the time, you don't think anything of it. I like woke up in someone's pickup truck and I was like, maybe this is too dark. But she was like laughing just like you. And I was like, I don't know.

Well, I think so. It's unexpected. It's like open mouth. Yeah. Sometimes she dropped her jaw and sometimes she was laughing. Oh my God. And sometimes she was just like, oh my God. And sometimes I'm like, maybe I should say these stories like before when I write a book

or something. But also when I say kidnapping, like I don't think of it as kidnapping because I was an adult. But I guess it is. If someone like takes you, you don't know where you're going. Yeah. I mean, you're the one that knows

because you were the one that didn't. Like being, if you're under the influence of something and someone takes you somewhere, is that kidnapping? I don't know. Usually that's what they'll do. They'll put you under an influence of something. But what if I put myself under the influence?

Still, nobody else will take you. Take you away. I didn't know where I was. And I was just like, I don't know. I mean, hopefully, I don't know. Hopefully, that story is well received. I don't know. Like, sometimes I'm like, but I know people, I don't know.

People just can be crazy. And they're probably, oh, here's another one of Trisha's stories. But it's like, I actually have so many stories, like documented stories, too, of like with cam footage, with like reports and stuff like that. Like, I feel like that can be documented. But I feel like I haven't even told like all of it. But anyways. I mean, this will be the intro to your book.

Yeah, I just have a whole book about it. Because i did write a book called like the stripper diaries but it was like a lot of that was made up because like i just filled in some parts to make it entertaining but i feel like if i wrote a real one i don't know some of it i don't remember all the details so let's not talk about anyways check out caller daddy uh she was she was very nice and i even told her i was like hey girl just so you know in the past there's probably times where i've said that i thought you were annoying and she was very cool about it she was cool she was so cool she was like no like i get it because i was like you know i'm like I was like, hey girl, just so you know, in the past, there's probably times where I've said that I thought you were annoying and she was very cool about it. She was cool. She was so cool. She was like, no, like I get it. Cause I was like, you know, I'm like, I was like, I was just, and I was, I am jealous. I'm still jealous of her. She has, she has $60 million solo. She had a partner. Then went solo, got $60 million and like literally the house they shoot in,

I thought she lived in. It's like a bougie house. And she's like, oh no, I live in a different house. It's just a content house. And I was like, girl, like she's she's she's bougie and I was always jealous of them because I always thought they got so much attention I was like I could do that I could I could have a podcast because they had the you know whatever so I've always been a little jealous and I think for sure I've definitely but we used to listen we would listen and then I would be like oh this is so annoying but then we would listen like and everything we'd listen to the Courtney Stodden one the Holly Madison one and I was of course honored that's what I'm saying I think most haters like if they like most of my own haters if they met me they'd be like really excited they probably asked for a picture I'm sure there's haters that I know. I think most haters, like if they like, most of my own haters, if they met me, they'd be like really excited. They'd probably ask for a picture. I'm

sure there's haters that, I know there's haters that ask for a picture who like, when I used to look at Reddit, they would be like, I met Trisha. I went to her show and I was like, you were at my concert and you waited in line for a meet and greet. Like you're a fan. You know what I mean? And so I think at the end of the day, a lot of haters would be like that. They saw me, they'd be excited. And that's why I was with Color Daddy. I was like, wow, they want me on there. Okay, heck, put me on there. Like, cause never in a million years, I think they'd asked me on. I think I was on right after she was Khalifa or something was there the day before. So I was like, all right, cool. I'll take it. Paris Hilton was on. So anyways, it was like the biggest

podcast. Spotify, who rejected me, but it was a Spotify podcast. So go look at it on there, I guess. I think that's the only place you can watch it, which is wild to me. You put in all that work and it's only on Spotify. But I guess for $60 million, I guess we could put behind a paywall too. I just would love – you don't see clips of it. I never see like Call Her Daddy clips. They're like posted so much after the interview and then also so short because I don't have Spotify. So when Alex did like the Hailey Bieber one, I was like, how the hell do I watch this? Oh, so what did you do?

My work like ingests the video. So I have to like go into like our work system and like freaking watch the interview. Oh, watch it. Yeah. It is like annoying, the paywall thing. But it must work. I mean you said Joe Rogan's on there. There's no paywall.

Yeah, you have to be a member of Spotify. No, you just don't have the app. There's ads. There's ads. It's like YouTube. Oh. It's not different. I don't have the app.

I don't want to make an account. Yeah, it sounds like so much work. Michelle Fon is having a podcast with Spotify. They're like, do you want Michelle Fon on? They could do a podcast swap. Do you know her? Of course. I mean, she's like the OG.

Yeah, I think she had a deal with Spotify and they were asked to, I don't know. I guess what my point was, like, yeah, Michelle Phan is iconic, of course, and I, like, love her, and I loved her back in the day, but it's interesting that people Spotify choose. Okay, this is me just a little jealous a little bit, because I had a couple meetings at Spotify myself, and it's always interesting

who they choose to give podcasts to. Heidi and Spencer, again, love them. They both follow me. Heidi's followed me. Heidi, like, DM'd me one day, and I was like, could you come to my podcast, girl? But just random. I don't know. I think I am blacklisted everywhere. So thank you to our patrons and Patreon. They've reached out to help us with it and stuff like that.

So at least we have our Patreon. But it is kind of wild. Anyway, it's good for all of them. That's just me being better. Don't worry about it. We love it. We love a podcast. Everyone having a podcast.

And we're here for it. I forget who it was, but there was someone random who was starting a podcast and I was like, Oh my God. I remember it was like, I think it was some like straight man influencer that I was like, who cares? I forget who it was. I wish I remembered, but I remember just being like, why? Like I know. Oh, I remember it was Colleen. Wait, what? Her podcast is coming back. She was making a podcast come back, and I was like, who cares? No, who cares? I mean, okay, if she gets sponsors back, like, there's a very big difference, right?

Being problematic and doing stupid stuff in your past or whatever. But then there's, like, really, like, gross like gross sick people out there and she's one of them. And it's like, if she's getting her sponsors back on her podcast, that to me is so like, there's something bigger than wild. What's like a term where like, that's like full out insane, insane and like unfathomable. It's like, no, look like when you're an awful evil sick person, like I'm not saying like anything bad happened to you, but it's like, you know, like go take a break, like reevaluate your life, like actually get help, like get off the internet, like where the, where you did all this inappropriate behavior. You know what I mean? It is wild that she just comes back. I mean, I guess we can just like jump to it now, I guess.

Like it's just like the video where she said, I've had this big audition and I booked the role and she's like, and because, and then I lost it because a made up story about me came out and I'm like, okay. And I know I said I was going was gonna stop talking about this but the fact that she keeps talking about it makes weird how about this morning is like there should be no other choice than for everyone Becky Adam me to just remind people what's not made up what you actually confessed to what is actually real you having weird nudes of me and sending them unsolicited to your fans and stuff like that like you going out to lunch with Adam McIntyre when he was 15 years old and sending him like underwear and stuff in the mail. Like these are not like made up lies. It's just, it's just like

more people coming out with it because they feel comfortable with it. Obviously the stuff about me coming out and stuff. I was just like, so she's writing it off and maybe who knows she's so vague about it. Like, oh, there was a made up, what made up story. But there's so many real circumstances. The thing with Becky, like opening her legs when she was 16 on stage. These are all very real things that there's proof. There's evidence, receipts. What's the Salt Lake city? There's just like, you know what I mean? There's just everything out there. What is it? Like proof, screenshots, recordings, receipts. Okay. There's all of that out there. And I have the email of you being like, so sorry. I was a coward. I should have told, like, there's like, even in her vague, like, oh, I've learned so much about friendships. It's like, yeah, you're lying to people. Like the Rosanna one of her being like, all this stuff is

not true. All of it's, all of it's not true. And then coming out with like, it's actually true. She said that to me. Oh, none of that's true. The fans sent. And I have to just keep reiterating this because now like she's rewriting this narrative of like, it's all made up. I lost work. I'm the victim. But I'm reclaiming it. Moving forward, we're going to have a podcast again. And it's literally, literally learning nothing. No repercussions.

So I did see a comment of someone saying, maybe in her head, because there's no repercussions, she thinks she's innocent. Maybe she thinks, well, I wasn't proven guilty in a court of law. So I'm innocent. But there's all these actual receipts, including her telling me, yeah, I'm so that was I was that was up like I was a coward so it's like this is all real your weirdo friends watching my OF and making fun of me and stuff like that it's all real her friend's face that's I think about that all the time like her friend that's like barely on YouTube and social media but everyone knows it's her friend that the guy who's like a musical theater

guy holding my OF next to his face her taking a picture and sending it to that Johnny or whatever like that. I'm like, you're such a sicko. Like you're admitting to these weird watch parties. It's like so crazy. And it actually makes me sick. Like even when I saw her come back, I'm like, you know what? I'm not gonna even watch it because like I can't stand her face. Like she's just such a liar, such a manipulator and every single, and also just like a creep at the end of the day, like seeing all these weird stuff she did with her fans on stage, Adam as a child, like having these conversations. And it wasn't just one or two. It's like these, the group chats, we've seen them. It's all out there. There's no lies detected. So for her to be like, oh my gosh, I lost this opportunity when this made up story, it made my blood boil. And I'm like, okay, this is why people keep sharing

their stories and keep talking because until something does happen and maybe more people will come out or something like that until there's actual like repercussions for it, it's actually like insane to me. So it's like as long as she keeps thinking she's the victim and did nothing wrong and she's so innocent in this, I'll keep talking about it. I don't know if I sound like a broken record or whatever. I'd eventually come out like just like stuff in the past with me when I was like I kept talking about stuff and then other people feel comfortable coming forward and then there's more stuff that comes out. It's like how much more do you want to come out, like just like stuff in the past with me when I was like, I kept talking about stuff and then other people feel comfortable coming forward. And then there's more stuff that comes

out. It's like, how much more do you want to come out, girl? Like in her best interest is to just keep her mouth shut. Because I feel like there is probably so many more people who don't have stories in those group chats and whatever that could keep talking. And she's just like, she's egging, she's provoking that by saying none of it's real, none of it's true. You know, Adam, you know, who knows? Like whatever else it's like, if, you know? Adam, you know, who knows? Like, whatever else, it's like, if he says he has these, you know, she texted him stuff like that, it's like, she's provoking more stuff, you know, maybe he wants to put it behind him, but it's like, at what point do you have to be like, okay, now I gotta dig and find all the stuff you sent me, and to make it more incriminating, just like the underwear thing, where she kind of buried it and

be like, there was a misunderstanding, where it showed, edited, that she was the one that asked him, even though she said, oh, Adam asked me. That was her narrative for so long until all this came back out, including myself to see like, oh shit. Like, no, she is the one who said, do you want this underwear? Even though her whole storyline to everyone, including me, including the internet was like, no, he asked for it because she edited it out. She's only going to keep provoking people and incriminating herself. It's just going to get, there is just going to be more and more that come out because clearly this is a person that was having multiple inappropriate conversations at the very least with minors and stuff like that and meeting up with them.

I still can't fathom being married. It's like you, me, and Moses going out with a fan that's 15 year old and having lunch. Like, you know, oh, we're in, we're in Dublin today. Do you want to come meet us for lunch? In our hotel room. In our hotel. Yeah. Like what?

Like that? And he was like, you know, my parents just dropped me off and all that stuff like that. And it's just like, like I, that's, that's a person that's like, there's, there's something, again, it doesn't compute or something how like weird that is and inappropriate that is. Like, it's so, so bizarre. And just seeing her that I just saw the clip. Cause I really don't watch her videos. I scroll through TikTok. It's like, I think it's like spilled tea or something with me. I don't know. One of those. And she showed the little clip of her just sitting there and just being like a complete victim. Be like, I worked really hard for this audition. Everyone's been asking me about the audition. And everyone's like,

oh, the people who asked about this audition, are they in the room with us? Because like, no one's asking about this. It's like so weird. It was, and I remember all of it. I remember it was happening. I remember her audition for it or whatever like that. But it's like, this is all your own doing. This is all your own doing. Like it's, it's one thing. And I'm, again, I'm that person. It's like, if something happened like 10 years ago and you'd known up to it and you apologize, you've reached out to Adam, you've done whatever, and you're just trying to move past, that's like one thing. But then it's like such another thing. That would be like me to be like, I've never said anything problematic about it. And it's such a different scale. Cause I wasn't doing anything, like nothing,

but I'm just saying like, to just act like I've just been a saint, like, oh, I have no idea why people dislike me. It's so weird. Like I don't get it. But her just being like so recent, all this stuff's so recent. It's so bizarre to me. It's so, it's so crazy. And how are you going to keep provoking that? Like, girl, you, you skated by, you've saved a little bit of fans. You know what I mean? And so you're, you're lucky you're coming back a little bit. Like Shane's very like low key for the most part, but her to come back and be like, you know, oh, it was all lies. It's like, they just don't say anything. Like she just sounds so stupid, manipulative and just thinking people are stupid, I guess. And a lot of her fan base is young still. We saw that with JoJo coming to her defense and being like, we were friends when I was 13. She

was great. And I was like, this is the problem. Like, you know, her fans are these young people believing it. I have her own fans come up to me and I go to their profile. They're literally 10 year olds, like people being like, I can't believe you would betray Colleen. And then I go and it's like literally a 10 year old, like Instagram. And I was just like, this is crazy. And these are the people she's catering to that she's still able to have an audience with on YouTube. Then creating this whole situation now that it didn't even happen. Oh, this is a made up story last summer and being vague about it, making it all seem like it's a made up story is like, and I know Adam's like trying to move on and people, I know Becky's still like active on Twitter talking about it, which like honestly good for her because

that would enrage me. It enrages me and I'm not even a child in this situation. You know what I mean? It's like, and it enrages me so much because it just like, but you are this shit person. Like acknowledge it. You've acknowledged it to me privately, but now online you're going to act like I was like just so innocent and all this. No, you have, you have sick, you have a sick behavior. You have sick tendencies. And I, and like, I've been trying to talk about it or just talk about it on Patreon

or whatever. Cause I'm like, it is like so upsetting, but I just feel like people let so much go of stuff that shouldn't be let go because now she's just like back and being like yeah we're moving forward and stuff like that without acknowledging what she did yeah that's t honestly like there's only so much you can say about her because it is kind of the same like talking points too but it's like you can't let someone get away with this stuff like you can't let someone blatantly like lie and try to like rewrite what happened like you said when it's so recent and there's literal proof, like she's acting as

if Swoop didn't just do like 15 hours of content and interview all these people who have like weird relationships with Colleen. You know what I mean? Like we saw that, like we all know. So to act like none of that was real, this whole like umbrella that everything was made up is like genuinely like ludicrous like it's actually like unfathomable it's insulting it's so insulting and i just i try to like avoid the content too i think out of i remember how i watched it because i was like needing something to watch when i ate lunch and i was like let me watch you know a spill sash or whatever and i was like okay let's see what this lady is up to and i was like gagged i was gagged like how can you completely rewrite the narrative it's like beyond

delusional it's like genuinely like sick i think in my opinion it's sick it's like it's so bizarre it's so bizarre and if you really want to be about it oh there's so many comments demanding that i bring relax the podcast no no girl then unfilter your comments let's see yeah i am so annoyed unfilter your comments take out those little safe words and let's see what the comments really say. If you want to, if you're going to say that there's so much demand for us to know about why you're not renovating your house or why there's where the podcast is at or what happened to your failed Broadway career, then unfilter those comments and let's see what the comments say if that's the case.

Because we can see them on TikTok. We see them on TikTok. Amen to that. All of that. Because I see them on TikTok. I go to all those spillills, slash spilled tea. Those are where you see the unfiltered comments. And no one is worried about, oh, why didn't you finish renovating your kitchen?

Well, we kind of went through some money hardships last year. Because of your doing, your sick behavior. And that is 100%. Everything you said is so spot on. And as long as she's going to keep rewriting the narrative, I'll just keep bringing up the real narrative. Because there is, again, the receipts, the proofs, the screenshots, everything. That, like, made me so sick back then and it makes me so sick now. And it's, like, her best interest is just to just completely move on and ignore it because she's, like, completely in the wrong.

That's what I don't understand. Yeah. The fact that she brings it up. If you're going to act like it didn't happen, then just, and like, if you didn't say it, if you didn't say I had the hardest 2023 because everyone was mean and Wales got me through so much in my life because I was having a hard time and I had dreams of Wales. Did you like, did you, she's disgusting. If you just lived your life, no one would have ammo. No one would have like any ammunition against you. But if you're going to like keep lying and being miserable, terrible, and like, if you're gonna like keep lying and being miserable terrible and like if you want your career whatever vlog for 50k views 100k views whatever do it that's good like you can

make a living off of that you're going back on tour but why are you gonna keep dragging this around and making us all seem stupid like don't make the viewers seem stupid you know what i mean and just your fans this is why you have the 10 year old fans 12 year old fans because everyone else is just like you and And it's just sad. It's sad. It makes me so upset. It makes me so upset, actually. And I'm just like.

Because you remember, I mean, when she came back, it was an apology and I did a lot of work. And now it's like everything was lies. So what was the work? Yeah. Why did you leave for four months? What was the apology for? And then also the way she words it, it's like there was one story that was made up about me.

Yeah. So does that mean that everything else was true? Right, right. Which one is the one story? If you can actually prove that there was one story that was a lie, why won't you say what the story was? Yeah. And why would you lose all this work if it was one story? Well, just like she told me or Rosanna, I was just like, she goes, it's all lies.

That's how she kept telling me, oh, it's all lies. I don't know. I mean, the scariest, the scariest part, and again, I'm just going to keep saying my story because it's all lies that's how she kept telling me oh it's all lies I don't know I mean the scariest the scariest part and I'm again I'm just gonna keep saying my story because it's it's 100% the truth and it's obviously something she's forgotten and like I have a voice and even if I didn't have a voice I'd keep shouting it out until oblivion just like I've done in the past is like that two weeks when it first came out that she supposedly sent like my news and stuff to like fans and I asked her about it and she's like oh my god absolutely not like because I was, cause I was quiet that day. She's like, absolutely not. They would do it. They would send me pictures and once in a while I'd be like, okay. But she goes, it was never like nude.

And then when I saw that, I was like two weeks later, I was like, wow, this is like a psychopath. This person like knew she was caught. There's no way she forgot she did this. It's like, how do you not just like admit to it and just be like, yeah, this was messed up. This was, I, this was a while ago. Like it's so, that was the scariest part is this person's just straight up lying to my face in my home as if I was stupid or as if it wasn't going to come out. And maybe she was lucky that maybe the other ones haven't come out, but she's just going to provoke it until there's... It's just like the David situation too, when there was a photo that came out, you know what I mean? When other things come out and it's like, it's her own doing. All this has been her own doing. And yeah, what help, what therapy were you working on that?

I don't know. She's very delusional. And it's actually, actually scary. Yeah, because she gives them ammunition. So now if somebody does something, they will say, no, that was a lie. That was once, that story was a lie. Like which story? There's no lies.

There's at least three stories that are truth, so. But when you give your fans ammunition, they'll go out and fight the other people and just stand up for you. And they have no idea even what it is because they don't care about what the stories were. They don't follow Adam or – you know what I mean? Yeah. They don't hear the other voices. They just hear her side. They just hear hers.

Yeah. That's why I can – I'll keep fighting with it. There's so much that I can let go and be like, okay, I'm just going to be at peace with myself. But this is like one thing. I made my peace. I'm fine. I'm happy.

I'm thriving. But it's like there's just certain things that I'll keep go and be like, okay, I'm just gonna be at peace with myself. But this is like one thing I made my peace. I'm fine. I'm happy. I'm thriving. But it's like, there's just certain things that I'll keep talking about because I think it's such a sick situation and involves underage people and it's disgusting. And also like my nudes and just being an overall sick person. I mean, she had my nude, she was sending them at one month postpartum, like you're a sick person. Anyways. And I just to like solidify too, the fact that she apologized to you means that it wasn't made up. You know what I mean? A thousand percent. No, she confirmed.

I mean, but it was so obvious. I mean, her friend was so obvious. But it's crazy that she would confess to you and then like tell everyone else no. You know what I mean? That's why I said back then, I'll say it now. Like she confessed. She's like, yeah, that was weird. Like she goes, I was whatever she said with the email and I have the email.

I had to like literally check the email. I'm like, is this from her? Like it was crazy. I was shocked that she admitted and that was like four days later after literally everyone that she surrounded herself on youtube like has like denounced her too so it's like wouldn't that also be kind of like a reality check like yeah she was friends with daniel and joey for so long oh yeah you know that's what like almost over 10 years basically yeah 2012 or whatever so and they have like wrote you off girl and rosanna too publicly came out and said it because it was like, and those are people

that are your friends and they, because why? Because there's overwhelming proof that came out. There's like overwhelming, like there's just no, it's not a little bit maybe twisted, whatever. It's like the overwhelming amount of proof from Becky's story to Adam's, you know, all the meetups with him to like you taking advantage of your fans and having inappropriate conversations. There's so much like, that's why people disowned you. That's because it's real. It was facts. Like there's, that was it. And for so long, everyone wanted to hold on. I think, you know, Joey had texted me like, I don't know what to do in this issue early on because we didn't know, you know, stuff was happening. And me too. I'm like, okay, this is,

this is not the person I know. Like, but when there's overwhelming evidence, you're just like, this person is sick and this is, this is not okay. I mean. But when there's overwhelming evidence, you're just like, this person is sick and this is not okay. I mean, it's just true. I don't think there's any other way to say it. There's no here, say, there's no there. It's like facts, true. Go watch Swoop's docu-series about her. I know.

She needs to come out with another one or something to remind this lady what's gone down. That's what I'm saying. It's like, it's just like people, I'm so sick of people like, oh, you're bringing this up again. It's the same talking points. It's like, because she brings it up as if this didn't happen and that's not okay. I'm not. It's like, it's just like people, I'm so sick of people like, oh, you're bringing this up again. It's the same talking points. It's like, because she brings it up as if this didn't happen and that's not okay. I'm not letting that happen. Like if I do get brought up and it's something that's like clearly didn't happen, I'm going to say it. Like, I'm not going to just let someone, you know, not to what we'd had an experience like that earlier last year. It was like,

someone said something happened that didn't happen. And so then I will speak up. I'll be like, let's rewind the tape because this is exactly what happened. Tweet, video, look at it. You know what I mean? Like that's what I don't like is when people think enough time has passed and oh, Trisha's in a different place now. And so she's not going to be as combative. Yeah, true. But I'll still say it's not, you know, it's a lie or whatever, because I'm, I don't want that. That's not going to happen. That's because people will, people will start believing them because they only hear that for the first time. Oh, okay. So that must be true. No. Actually, Ellen, that's not the truth. What is that? Oh my God. You've never seen that meme? Dakota Johnson? When she was like, not being invited to Dakota's parties or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Actually,

Colleen, that's not the truth. That's not the truth. And it just, oh my God. Like it just, it angered me so much. And yeah, people see it. I mean, like, again, like you said, she filters her comments. So it's obviously like nice or whatever, but like people like see it. And I'm glad. I just hate that excuse so it's obviously, like, nice or whatever. But, like, people, like, see it, and I'm glad. I just hate that excuse. The comment section. The comment section are demanding answers. No, they're not.

No one is. Girl, BFFR. Not really. God. Shut up. Just shut up. Oh, just shut up. The one where she's talking about the people are wondering why we haven't finished renovations at our house.

I'm so out of touch. So out of touch with everything happening. You bought a $6 million house before you even sold your $4 million house, and you're acting like, I had to come back for money and stuff like that. And it's like, okay, but, like, just no one cares. Like, no one cares. And the renovation, no one's asking about renovations. I didn't even know she was doing renovations, and I was friends with her,

had a podcast with her. Oh, my God. Just awful person. Just an awful person. And I am someone who's, like, definitely like, oh, no, don't take away people's sponsors. But it's just like if she comes back with a sponsor on a podcast, like that's just like those people. Like that's the one do your research as a person is like a sick person. And I'll flip.

And I'll go around making the 100 accounts and be like, why the hell are you sponsoring? People do that with me. And, you know, at this point I just talk up like whatever. You know what I mean? But it's like, yeah. But when there's like an actual awful person, they're I'm just coming back with podcasts and we're gonna have like whatever I was just like okay girl like you have anything else on Colleen no I think bitch I said what I said I said what I said I just I honestly I just like it's actually like

it's so frustrating I can't even imagine like like someone like Adam that's why I've always supported I'm like do 5,000 videos about her because, like, I get it now. I get it because, like, I didn't – you know, she would say all this stuff about Adam. Oh, you know, it's just a thing where he, like – I sent him the underwear because he asked for it, but it was not used. Okay, whatever. But then, like, to hear the story and her editing it out and her making all this thing, like, he's – it's like, yeah, shout it 5,000 times because that's so weird and messed up. And also, like, you were a kid and, like – and then you see this person still thriving and still having success. And, like, yeah, she was on Broadway.

Like, yeah, good for Broadway for not because that's, like, you're weird. Like, you're sick. You're just a sick person. So, anyways, I don't know. Anyways, can we do a shoe cam? Is a shoe cam ready? Oh, we haven't done a shoe cam in a while. No, because no shoes have fit me.

I'm so pregnant and my feet are so swollen. Shut up, kids. Yeah, you know. Oh, did we talk about this? I see the Keds. We talked about the Taylor Swift Keds. ShoeCam here. No shoes have fit me lately, but the Keds now – not sponsored.

This is going to sound so sponsored. The Keds now offer wide feet shoes. And when I tell you these things are wide, look how wide they are. I can slip in and out of them. These are wide. Nothing fit me at the shoot yesterday. No shoes were fitting me. They shot me literally from the knees up.

But these literally, you can just slide in. These are the wide width, size 8. They come in sparkly. And I can actually wear shoes again. I was just wearing slippers. So these are my go-to shoes. And yeah, they're helping my pregnant, swollen, ridiculously huge feet. So thank you, kids.

And thank you, Shoe Cam. Okay. Oh, God. I know. Usually we save her for the end, but my God. We had to go. Why did we even get there? I don't know.

I know. It was like weighing on me. It's like the thing I saw before we started Hot Topics. I was like watching it. Because you know what? I didn't even watch it. I just like saw the clip and I was just like, I don't even watch this whole thing. So I was like watching it.

And I was just like, everything about it just actually like made me like ill. It actually is. It's just bananas. It is. Like watching the clips, it's like, it has I was just like everything about it just actually like made me like ill. I know. It actually is. It's just bananas. It is. Like watching the clips, it's like it has like a menacing aura to it. I'm like who can like actually enjoy this? Just very – yeah. And it's – I don't know.

I mean I think again that just says something to maybe go get some help because I mean it's not well. And her putting out all this content and trying to like make these different stories up is like it's not well. It's not right. You know, maybe – I don't know. Stop talking about it is my best advice because if you keep talking about i'm gonna keep talking about it that's just it period don't just wait till miranda comes back oh my god could you imagine oh my god the second i see that red lipstick on site so 2024 i thought this was like in the past I was like okay

we're leaving Matt Wright behind we're leaving Crowley behind and this happened and I was just like okay that's just the one thing

I was like I have a podcast I gotta just use my voice with this especially because I was personally victimized by Colleen Ballinger

like it was crazy anyways do you wanna talk about do you care about the McBrooms do we care yeah I'm interested to see your

because I don't know much about them so I'm interested and I was like researching obviously but I'm interested to see your – because I don't know much about them. So I'm interested. And I was like researching obviously but I'm interested to hear what you have to say. You know, I don't either. I just know like the headlines. Okay, so they were together. They said a decade.

Catherine McBroom and Austin McBroom are getting divorced, which is obviously shocking. I know a lot of people are like, oh, like we saw this coming or whatever. But I kind of was shocked. I like turned to Moses. I was like, oh my god, they're divorcing. Well, we've heard – all I know about this is like bullet points, right? They're family vloggers they were pretty daily for a while um filming their kids and having their kids in their thumbnails I mean this all goes to the

whole family vlogger thing like what's right what's not but it is always a little off-putting to me personally if you like rely on your kids for content you guys know I post my daughter I'm not I'm not saying and some people are against just putting your kid out there period some people think what I do is like weird like oh oh my God, you put your daughter out there, period. I put her out there, you know what I mean? But I definitely don't rely on her. I do not monetize. Like that's not where my income comes from. It's not every day. Even we got offers for her commercials, like big commercials for her. And we just haven't done it yet. Cause I'm just like, I just like really have to like weigh the pros and cons of it. Cause I'm like, okay, once

you put her in like a commercial or something, that's like, you're like kind of putting it out there. You know what I mean? Not that I'm opposed to it or it could happen in the future, but just as a baby right now or just whatever. So they've documented all their kids and that's kind of their thing. Their family vloggers are a couple vloggers. They're like a power couple. I know about their foreclosure house. I watched that. I know there was cheating rumors with Austin. I know Tana actually was like in the center of it at one point kind of getting hurt. Back in the day when Tana was more messy, you know, which like honestly not even messy. Just probably speaking the truth. Like saying that Austin always cheats on Catherine or something like that.

And then Catherine clapping back and being – I think the thing – the surprising thing is Catherine would always defend him. She defended Austin so much like clapping back like you guys don't know our lies. But I think even her ex-sister-in-law or something would always come for them and say, spill the tea on all this stuff like that. But they're divorcing after a decade. They used to make a lot of money, I know. They rented out the Staples Center for one of their fan events. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. And it was crazy. They had these big celebrities playing in this basketball thing. They had the Ace Fest, which looked, you know, relatively successful. I mean, they seem to have, like, a lot of people there. They have a big fan base. So, yeah, they're divorcing, and they both made a post, very different post.

Did you read both of their posts? Yeah, I mean, they were kind of similar, though, right? But, like – I felt like the tone was so different to me. Really? I felt – I had made a little notes on it. Catherine's was very, like – she's like, I'm up for, up for like the challenge and, you know, they're still best friends. Whereas Austin's was using words like he was like, you know, taking a leap of faith.

Like leap of faith and also his concern was taking care of, he said his kids, but also then he's like his mind, his spirituality, his body. You're like, okay, that's kind of whatever. But I always thought with his words of leap of faith versus hers, like I'm taking on a new challenge. I thought it was interesting because challenge implies that it's a little more difficult. As far as leap of faith, maybe I'm wrong with this. I always imply that to mean like it's like a – Jumping in. Yeah, like this is a good thing.

Like the leap of faith. Like, you know what? I'm taking a leap of faith that this is the right thing for me as opposed to like – I don't know. The tone maybe was – maybe I need to reread it again. But to me, it was like very different tones. I was like, oh, this is like really different. Even her in the car, did you watch her car speech? Like for, it was like a seven minute car speech too, where, you know, she said she's the happiest she's ever been, which was like a different tone than hers. I was like, oh, okay. She's like, this is the happiest I've ever been. She says she feels

liberated. She says she was really loyal. She's like, one thing about me is I'm super loyal, which kind of implies maybe he's not loyal is what I gathered from it. But the one thing that I kept getting is like, she's like, we never argued. We never fought. We are, we were and still are the best friends. So I was like, okay, then why, why are you getting divorced, girl? I never understood that.

We never fought, never argued, and we're still best friends. So I was like, are you just like, I guess maybe implying that she just fell out of love with him. I don't know. I'm not really sure the implications of it. I know everyone was excited. Everyone's like, oh, finally, good for Catherine. You know, I think one time, you know what else we were, I think we might have talked about on the podcast when she was vlogging and he said something about his hair and then she put it

down. He goes, no, wait, what? Like, you know, remember he, it was like the part that they didn't edit out and he got like mad at her and then they like restarted and she's like, okay, like restart. He was like, kind of saw that like mask slipping a little bit. But yeah, everyone seemed to be happy for Catherine. Oh, finally. I'm glad you're out saw that like mask slipping a little bit. But yeah, everyone seemed to be happy for Catherine. Oh, finally. I'm glad you're out of that. So I don't know what part of it makes everyone hate Austin so much. I would assume maybe just the cheating rumors or I don't know.

Is there more rumors to his? I have no idea. But maybe his overall vibe is just douchey to people. To me, he's very unlikable. Right. You know what I mean? So I think that is the one good. And there's so much like

controversy around him i think like everything that comes up like about his business like he was there's the story where he was like scamming fans with like giveaways and stuff like they never got whatever the items that he was supposed to give away he had like a three million dollar lawsuit from like the youtubers versus tiktokers boxing event oh yeah so there's a lot of like scandal around him. He recently was DMing like OF girls saying like, let me sign you to my like new OF agency. Oh, how recent?

I think like a couple weeks ago. So maybe that's why she needed to come out with it. It was before they – obviously they must have been like already, you know, separated before this, before he started doing it. But it's also just like all the OF girls were like posting the screenshots like their Twitter, being like, this seems like the biggest scam ever.

Cause it was like in their DMs trying to like sign them. Then obviously he gets a cut, blah, blah, blah. You know, don't, don't ever sign with anyone,

but not Austin McBroom of all people. Yeah. I don't think he knows about the OF world girls. Yeah. Especially like, I think people are excited. Cause people want the opportunity to like Catherine separate from Austin. You know what I mean?

Like, so like her as an individual and to see like what she does without having to, you know, also be alongside him and kind of like be her own person. Agreed. And like in her little car speech, you know, you guys can ask me any question you want. I'm like, come on, just trash. We have questions. I want to know.

But it is interesting to me. And I like, I don't fault her. I don't fault anyone obviously for divorcing. But when like your brand and your business is your coupleness, you know, like, being a couple and being a family, like, that's when you have to know something must have, like, really bad have happened, right? Because, like – and she always said I always put my family first and the kids. And, like, just overall, you always hear about people staying together. And then once the kids are adults, like, it's breaking up or divorcing after the kids. So I always – in my head, I think I'm like, this must be really bad.

Like, this is your business. This is your livelihood. That's why it was confusing to me when she's like, you know, he's my best friend. We never argue. And I was like, wait, so why are you divorcing? You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I feel like there has to be something. And the nosy part of me is like, there has to be something deeper. And if it, I don't think it's cheating. I mean, maybe he cheated for sure. Allegedly. I don't know. Maybe he cheated. I don't want to say for sure. Maybe he cheated, but she seemed to be, you know, some people are just like be you know some people are just like okay with it you know what I mean or they just know or they just like turn a blind eye or something like that you know what I mean to

stay together for the kids the business whatever and maybe that's what she was saying she was like fooling herself that she wasn't happy I don't know I was just like just so curious I just feel like okay they're like best friends so like why why you know I don't know imagine just like not being fully like in love you know she's like young she's beautiful like you want you want to have that full that full life i would imagine you know like you'd want to have a partner who you actually like think is a good person you know what i mean i guess i just think when you're with someone for so long you put in so much time i just like but i would if she was like 80 i was to be like you know stick it out but she's like she still has so much life ahead of her you know what i mean like yeah you know with young kids it, with young kids, it's just so hard to, unless you're like, even Kim Kardashian

said she has trouble dating with like through, you know, four young kids and stuff like that. So maybe she doesn't want to date right away or whatever, but it's, I don't know. To me, it's like you go through spells of love too. There's times when you're like so in love and I feel like there's times when you're just like partners, you know, you're just trying to make it through the day. So I don't know to be, when people say they fall out of love, it always scares me a little bit. Cause I knew someone who said he just, they were married 10 years and divorced. And he's like, I just wasn't in love with her anymore. And I was like, that's like, that's the scariest thing is like one day you could just be like, I'm not in love with you.

I don't want to like live with you and be a partner with you in life anymore. Cause I feel like even if we felt like out of love, if like there wasn't a spark there anymore, like I just still like you're such a, you're such a partner in my life that I'm like, I couldn't even, I don't know. I wouldn't want to just like leave to have like a spark with I don't know someone else. Also there's like if there's there's smoke there's fire and for like the past what like five six years there's just been like things you know. So I imagine it kind of like builds up and like over time like all these like little or bigger instances like kind of build up and then it's almost like okay it's not how much can like one woman take you know what i mean like so you think maybe it's

like a boiling effect yeah because even if it's like maybe there's not like one inciting incident but it's just like you get hit with so many little stones and it's like at some point it's like okay like that over time that's what kind of forced you to like the one is wild if that's real like that would be the craziest thing to me like yeah I don't know unless they made that decision together which sounds like maybe they didn't but it's like if my husband was like DMing girls to be like hey if you want to start an OF I don't know first of all it gives very predatory creepy vibes you know like hitting up girls on OF that way that would that could be this for me that would be I think a divorce I think I'd be like

oh what are you doing I don't know yeah I mean and like you said maybe it's an accumulation like there's just been so many things throughout the years that has happened and yeah you can only take so much it's just I feel I like feel so bad for the kids because they are so young lots of things like when kids are so young it's like what does that mean now what does that look like because she said he's still living with her but he's about to move into his own place it's like so is he only gonna see the kids like on the weekends like and it's just so sad I guess I'm like a child of divorce and it's like, so is he only going to see the kids like on the weekends? Like, and it's just so sad. I guess I'm like a child of divorce and it's like literally the worst thing in the whole world. Like you see your dad, like I just saw my dad in the summers and Christmas. Cause I just think if

you're really that good of friends, like you could just like, and you want, and you want to have your family first, like stay together for them and then have the fun. I mean, they're going to be 18 in 10 years. You don't have the fun in 10 years. I don't know. I waiting another 10 years being stuck with him. I'd be like, hell no. I get it. Hell no. I just feel bad that kids can't see both their parents. They'll still see both their parents. But not all the time.

I know it'll be different. I know. It'll be different, but. It traumatized me. It still does to this day, like not getting to see my dad. Like, you know what I mean? And I get it. My parents, their reason for divorce is like wild.

It's like crazy. So like, I get it. Like they had to, but I mean, it's still awful. And you still, no matter what, at least I'll speak for myself and my siblings. Like you feel like it was your fault. You know what I mean? Like this happened because of you. Your dad doesn't want, like, cause it's not, it's obviously not, we know this as adults, but not having your dad be with you every day. You're like, oh, my dad chose to leave me. My dad chose to not live with us. You know what I mean? That's what you feel as a kid. And of course, like later on me now, I still, I still talk to

therapy to this day about it. I was like, why did my dad choose to go back to California? Why did my dad choose this? You know what I mean? But it's like not really fully out. Like, so I just thought he didn't want me. He didn't want to be with us.

We were the problem. You know, if we didn't have the kids and you just think that as a kid, but I don't know. I, um, of course, of course I'm not against people divorcing, but I just, I'm so, I'm just, I'm just such a different place where I'm just like, I, we just, we just live together. I would just, I don't know. It's sad. It's sad too when the whole internet is like, obviously they like made themselves a couple. So the whole internet has an opinion about it. And then the whole internet's like, yes, finally she left him. And it's like, like, I guess that should make her feel good. It should make her feel like, you know, she did the right. She said she's happy she's ever been, honestly. So I guess that's, you know, a good

thing if you're like, and then she has, all of a sudden it's best the right. She said she's the happiest she's ever been, honestly. So I guess that's, you know, a good thing. If you're like, and then she has, all I said is specify, she still mourns the death of the mayor. She's still sad about that, but she said she's the happiest. So I guess that's good. Yeah. Then she said that too with her kids. She's like, they can't, she always put their happiness first. She goes, they can't be happy unless I'm happy. So Austin, yeah, he gives me the ick too, guys. I am with you on this. I'm just trying to, it's a sad, sad thing. And it's like big and everyone's talking about it. It is the worst. Oh God. Cause I mean, I'm so nosy. This is why I'm talking about like gossip is just like inherent part of us where you're just like, Oh my God, what happened? And this is like, when this happened, I was like, Oh my God, this is a big hot topic. You know what

I mean? Where it becomes someone's news when it's actually like your life, because it would be the most devastating thing. Like if we ever got divorced and I was just like, Oh my God. And then you do look like, I don't want to say stupid, not stupid, but like, you know, they would, they brought up so many clips of her defending Austin or them talking about divorce. Did you see this? Like all the times they're talking about divorce and how it wasn't an option for them. And then, you know, and like, I get it.

Like then all that stuff comes back up in your face and then you feel like dumb or whatever like that. But that's what you do when you put your life on the internet. I really suggest highly, I will continue putting my life on the internet, but I always tell people like, don't. Who is it? Oh, I know, we had talked to someone

who didn't want their relationship out there, and I was like, I get it, but I love sharing my life, but I mean, I think for the most part, people.

I'm very much in the, like, reality show, Ozzy and Sharon, Nick and Jessica, where I'm like, that's us, Moses. We're Moses and Trisha, you know what I mean?

But it's funny, because like, well, I won't speak for you, you can speak on this, but it's like, that's us, Moses. We're Moses and Trisha. You know what I mean? But it's funny because I won't speak for you. You can speak on this. But it's like he was at the indoor playground with Malibu yesterday. And you said a mom when her kid – or the mom recognized you in the playground and wanted a picture with you. And you were like, no, because he was with Malibu by himself. So he just didn't want to take the picture. But it's like it is this weird thing where we are known, but you don't want to be known. It's not like you're like, right?

No, it's not to be known. The pictures is just, I told you, it's just more, if we're together, the reason to take a picture is because you're there. Oh, okay. For me, I don't need pictures of me with another girl out there. There's just no reason for that. Interesting. But it's so weird, because I get it.

I get why people want a picture with you, because I do put you out there so much. So I'm always like, is it weird? The water droplet. Maybe she was a water droplet. And then it kind of makes me sad because I'm like, oh, maybe they just wanted – they saw you and they wanted a picture. But I get being alone in Malibu and not wanting to take a picture because I would be like that too. I'm like, I don't want – because it could always be a decoy.

Someone would come up to me like, oh, hey, you hear about that. Like the target people that try to stop you and then they – whatever. So I mean I appreciate that. I think a real water droplet would not care about that momentary the target people that try to like stop you and then they whatever. So, I mean, I appreciate that. I think a real water droplet would not care about that momentary satisfaction of a fellow. Right. They just would say hi. They would be happy with the interaction. Yeah.

Let's see. The water droplet scam. Yeah. I have this weird thing where I don't know. I feel like with you, you were so private and I feel like I was like, okay, we're, I don't know. I never wanted to keep it private. I mean, I wasn't private. You were a private person. I was lect I was like, okay, we're, I don't know, but in my head I never wanted to keep it private. I mean, I wasn't private.

You were a private person. I was lecturing on YouTube. I was doing things, but I was just not a YouTuber. I wasn't sharing like private time. You just weren't sharing your life. But I was out there, you know, like doing things in the public and, you know, so it's, that's the only difference. Yeah, I guess.

I don't know. I just like always wanted to share everything, like every relationship. Oh, wow, you did? Yeah. Wait, what? That was sarcasm. I was like, yeah, I think I did. Way too much information.

I just think it's so fun. I'm just so living a movie. Like I think my life is a movie and I feel like that's, I don't know, it's kind of weird. That's why with my daughter it did shift a little bit where I'm like it is – I want to share everything.

But at the same time, I'm like, oh, man, I need to like protect this person. Just because I saw how nasty people can be. I'm like, you're weird. But yeah, to each their own. But I feel bad because the whole – the Ace family is just like so out there and then it's like this happens. I wonder if she'll do like interviews. I'm sure she will eventually, don't you think? She seemed to be open.

She's like, if you have questions questions I'm open to answering them. Okay come on down. Yeah that's why I'm like I've got questions. You should DM her just to see. We don't know yet where it's going to develop to.

Yeah sure. Because I think if he's that problematic now that he's out there and single on his own. Oh lord. Yeah.

So it really depends on what he's going to do now. Because from what you read his statement it sounds like he was the problem. He's going to do now. Because from what you read in his statement, it sounds like he was the problem. He's going to do self-work, right? Yeah, it was very much like spiritual God, my body, mind. Which means cheating and drugs or something to me. Okay, well, allegedly. Allegedly.

It means cheating and drugs. I've never heard the drug. Maybe, I don't know. All I'm saying is usually when people talk about taking care of their body or spirit, it means they were doing things that were just not right. They need to go through a transformation. Yeah. Yeah.

And also they got married young. You said she's 33. So they got married when she was 23 and had a baby. I mean, that's hard. I mean. If he's going to get his things together, I think they'll get back together. Really? Wow.

Predictions from Moses. He thinks so. Why? I think she's going to find someone hot. But just don't know his character. Yeah. She dated Michael B. Jordan. Everyone's like, go back from Moses. He thinks so. Why? I think she'll find someone hot. But just don't know his character. Cool. Yeah. She dated Michael B. Jordan.

Everyone's like, go back to him. Yeah. Period. Yeah. Period. She's beautiful. She's gorgeous. She probably won't have any trouble finding someone.

Do you know what I mean? The little scoff. Yeah. Well, I meant it in a good way. Was the scoff bad? I was thinking about me. I was like, I don't think I can find anybody. So I was like, well, I don't know I can find anybody. So I was like, well, I don't know.

But she could. She definitely could upgrade for sure. I'm like, I don't think there's anything better out there. No one's going to make me bolognese at night. She shouldn't be dating at all. She's just focused on the kids now. Moses said he wouldn't. This is interesting.

Moses said he wouldn't date. He would never date again if we divorced. I feel like that makes sense. Wait, what? You just said like, oh, you're young. Go out and meet someone and be in love. Never hit for her. Because that's like what. Literally, I mean, that makes sense. Wait, what? You just said like, oh, you're young, go out and meet someone and be in love. That's a hint for her. Because that's like what –

Because literally, I mean, think about it. And I feel like that's what she wants. You know what I mean? Yeah. It would be hard to imagine. How do you follow you? You know what I mean? Wow, true.

Very true. Good point. I thought, yes. Like actually. Yeah, he's like, I wouldn't date anyone else. I was like, wow, really? Well, my point is about kids. If you have kids, then that's your – that's basically what you're responsible for. Well, that's your, I wouldn't date anyone else. I was like, wow, really? Well, my point is about kids. If you have kids, then that's basically what you're responsible for.

Well, that's your hot take on it. I get where you're coming from because I've had horrible experience with step-parents, but probably most people would, maybe like 50% of people would disagree with you. But I love the take. I don't date anyone. Even if I was like passed away, I was like, you said it one day, I'm like, good, because I will haunt you. No, but I love that take.

Which means you'll still be around, so I won't be alone. Right. I'll always be with you. I think that's a good take because I just had the worst experience with stepdads. But again, that's my personal experience. Yikes. Where were we going with that? I don't know. That was that. Did you see that MatPat? There's a lot of YouTube

like MatPat quit YouTube. I want to MatPat because of Friday Night at Freddy's now. I know. He had that role and he's like bye I know like maybe this opens his schedule to be in the sequel I guess oh my god do you think that's why he like got this movie what did he say I didn't see why

I think the main thing was just like burnout you know because he's still going to be working on his YouTube channels there's just going to be like different faces to it but he'll be working like behind the scenes was like the overall, the overall thing. What's his channel?

It's like gaming. Game Theory. So what's he going to do if he's not going to be on camera? Cool. It's like a whole business. I think he sold it actually. So it's like a whole production.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Gotta retire too. He's just kind of going to be more like, I guess like CEO vibes, I guess. Like just more like behind the scenes. I think that's what Smosh was, right? When they sold their channel, they sold it for like 5 million or something they said. It was like, I guess. I love that. Like, just more, like, behind the scenes. I think that's what Smosh was, right? When they sold their channel.

They sold it for, like, five million or something they said. It was, like, I think within, like, an hour or two hours it had, like, two million views or something. It was crazy. People love him that much. I just didn't know much about him. I guess because he's, like, he's been on YouTube for, like, ten years, you know? So he's just, like, such a staple.

And I always hear his voice, like, that's just a theory. Oh. Game theory. So, no, no. I don't never heard him talk, so. I thought you heard it. You never still haven't heard it, that's just a theory. Oh. Game theory. So, no, no. I don't never heard him talk, so. I thought you heard it. You never, still haven't heard it? No, just from you.

And someone on Cameo asked me to say that, and I was like, okay. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah. That's what it was. That's just a theory. A game theory. A game theory. Yeah, see?

What does that even mean? What's a game theory? It's like theories about video games, I guess. Yeah. Okay. Who was he inviting to, oh, he was the waiter, the server. Yeah, he was the waiter. He slayed guess. Okay. Who was he in Five Nights at Freddy's? Oh, he was the waiter. Yeah, he was the waiter. He slayed it.

Yeah. If all else fails, you know, go to acting, I guess. The sequel is that. It's based on the server and the breakfast cafe. He's the new Josh Hutcherson. That would be a guy.

Do you think Josh Hutcherson will be in the new one? Yeah, he said. He did? Yeah. I want to be in it so bad. Yeah, I think there's, I mean, we have to cosplay again. Maybe that'll help, like, seal the deal. Okay. Who are you going to cosplay as. Yeah. I think there's – I mean we have to cosplay again.

Maybe that will help like seal the deal. Okay. Who are you going to cosplay as this time? I think Foxy. Oh, that's right. And I was going to be Matthew Lillard. Yeah. As the employer.

Not as the yellow bird or whatever bunny. I guess the yellow bunny could be a cute thing. Yeah, you should. I could have been – in this one I could have been the girl that was the babysitter. Like I could have been her. Gee. You know? Yeah, that would have been a good cameo for you. Especially like my sad boy era. I could have been the girl that was the babysitter. Like I could have been her. T. You know? Yeah. I feel like that could have been my vibe.

That would have been a good cameo for you. Especially like my sad boy era. I could have put my black eyeliner on. Yeah. I felt like I could play that role. Man, I want to be in a movie so bad. Maybe Five Nights at Freddy's the sequel. When does this start filming?

I won't be pregnant. I promise. Yeah. Josh said that it's just in the works. Yeah. So I think maybe it's just being written right now. What's he promoting right now? I saw him on like Jimmy Fallon or something.

A random movie. I think it's called The Beekeeper. Oh. What's he promoting right now? I saw him on like Jimmy Fallon or something. A random movie. I think it's called The Beekeeper. Oh. Really random. I don't even really know what it is either. And what's the – do we talk about the whistle meme? Oh, I don't know if we've talked about it. What is that?

I saw Jimmy Fallon or something. Ask him. It's from like his Hunger Games days. It was just like this one like fan edit. It was like, boom, I whistle baby, whistle baby. And it's to a photo of Josh going like... Oh, that's it? Yeah. Oh, how funny. That's a weird thing. Jimmy Fallon is

trying to stay relevant, being like, let's go on TikTok trend. I was like, okay. So weird. Well, just because it's so old, but it made a big resurgence because of FNAF. Everyone loves him again, and people brought this up again. I love him. Me too. I love Joshua.

He's so like baby girl coded. Yeah. We love baby girl coded. Yeah. Are you baby girl coded? I guess so. Yeah. I think I said you were baby girl coded the other day someone.

Oh, I love that. Right? That's a good thing. Yeah, it is good. He's baby girl coded. I forgot what I was going to say. Yeah. I'll take it. Yeah.

Maybe that's your merch. Is this someone's merch? Your gamer girl? No. Not that? It's just Neopets. Oh, shout out Neopets. Yeah, shout out's your merch. Is this someone's merch, your gamer girl? No. It's just Neopets. Oh, shout out Neopets. And your hoodie too looks like Skims or something. Oh, it is Cotton On.

Love. Love a Cotton On. It looks so cute. I like it. Are you sad about MatPat retiring? It is a little bit of shit. I mean, I didn't really watch him that much, but just because he's like a staple of YouTube, you know what I mean?

It's sad when like someone who is just like such a good, I guess like spokesperson almost. I mean, most of the streamings this past year, like he is just like a, he's like a significant part of YouTube. Like, I don't know, when you think of YouTube, there's like certain like personalities and creators you think of, you know? Jenna. He's one of them. Yeah.

It's also like a comfort, like, personalities and creators you think of, you know? Jenna. He's one of them. Yeah. It's also, like, a comfort, like, having them still around. Totally, yeah. You know? You're like, oh, they're, like, you know, they're still here and it feels good to see them. Jenna Marbles is one. I feel that way. I know this is a hot take again, but I feel that way about Gabby Hanna.

I feel that way a little bit. You know what I mean? It's like, I just was so used to seeing her. Yeah. And it's, like, kind of sad, but I'm, like, good for her. But then, like, you know, when you do see, like, resurgence of her, you're like, oh, I guess she's just living her best life. But kind of sad because I feel like she's one that, like, genuinely loved it. You know? Like, she was, like, creative like good for her. But then like, you know, when you do see like resurgence of her, you're like, oh, I guess she's just living her best life. But, but kind of sad because I feel

like she's one that like genuinely loved it. You know, like she was like creative and stuff. Yeah. Especially with like the music and like the artistry of it all. So to me, that kind of makes me like a little sad. But you know, when there's just people that are around for so long, I guess people feel that way about like Liza Koshy. I guess she's still around, but I'm just saying like, yeah, YouTubers, you're just like, oh. Yeah. Emma Chamberlain's kind of gone. Everyone, there's a lot. I've been sleeping. There's a lot of people that are kind of gone. Wow. Yeah.

I'm still here. Until I win the lottery. There's more influencer drama, too. Did you see, like, the Charli D'Amelio scandal? No. I was just thinking about her. To me, I don't even know if it was a scandal. Basically, she was in the Bahamas.

Let me make sure. She's always in the Bahamas. She was in the Bahamas during COVID, too. And everyone was like, oh, my God. Why are they in the Bahamas? Yeah, she's like a Bahama queen. Bahama mama. Well, she was in the Bahamas. She was in the Bahamas during COVID too. Everyone was like, oh my God, why are they in the Bahamas? Yeah, she's like a Bahama queen. Well, she was in the Bahamas on vacation. And her friend Markel posted a Snapchat video of her drunk.

Oh. And then. How old is she? She's 19. Oh no. I know. But the caveat, the drinking age in the Bahamas is 18. Okay.

We're back. So yeah. So I'm like, but people are giving her a hard time because, like, people are screaming in court at the Snapchat and, like, posted it to TikTok and stuff. Like, oh, look at Charlie. She's supposed to be a role model, but she's drunk. Oh, to get out of context. Yeah.

Because it was in the Bahamas. Yeah. I mean – I kind of feel for her a little bit. Yeah. I mean, it was legal, you know, so it's like – No, it's giving very, like, Brittany and Lindsay when they're just not having a good time and everyone's like, oh, my God, look at them drunk. It's like, it's not a crime to be drunk. Like, you know. I mean, it's just legal, you know? So it's like. No, it's giving very like Brittany and Lindsay when they're just having a good time and everyone's like, oh my God, look at them drunk.

It's like, it's not a crime to be drunk. Like, you know what I mean? They're legal of age. It's not like she was doing anything like debaucherous, you know? Like the Snapchat was just her, like she's kind of like slurring her words or whatever. I'm like, it's kind of, okay. Like realistically, it's like normal teenage behavior. You know what I mean?

Yeah, for sure. Or people who can like legally drink. Like, yeah, for sure. If you can drink in the Bahamas at 18, like of course you're going to get like drunk because you can. I'd say it's more on the friend because it's also like what – I mean did you get permission when she wasn't intoxicated and like, you know, that's a little shady knowing that she has such a brand. That's key. Because like especially if you know that her followers are like young and stuff, like don't set the girl up. You know what I mean?

That's how I feel, too. Like, if you saw me doing something weird or, like, you know, or just being, like, wild and it's like, oh, but she's a mom now, but I'm, like, not trying to show that I'm, like, a wild person and you post it, I would be, like, a little, like, if it was me drunk. Because, like, I'm not saying moms can't get drunk. You know what I mean? Like, you're out or whatever. Yeah, have fun.

But if you, like, post it when that's, like, not my image I'm trying to do, then I'd be, like, a little, like. Totally. Yeah. So. Snapchat is the scene of a lot of crime. Messy. Literally the scene of a lot of crime. Messy. Literally the scene of a lot of crimes. I'm suing them.

I'm suing them. I think I want to sue them. Look, a lot of people, even the haters, are like, oh, you have money. I have to show you. I saw the crazy one. Yeah. You might have seen it already, but. No, I don't think so. It's not the one I tweeted. Oh, Trisha Paytas arrested at gunpoint. What? Let me see. And that's that Trish Cam account.

Is this – how recent was this? I saw it on Reddit the other day. Oh, my God. So it must have been – Arrested. Oh, I'll insert it myself. Wait, arrested at gunpoint? Okay, there's definitely a gunpoint story I'm told, but I wasn't arrested.

What? Isn't that wild? Okay, that is crazy that they can just put that stuff out there and, like, monetize that. Trish Cam has 60,000 followers on Snapchat because one of the people that helps us monetize our content, he was like, oh, we can monetize this. He thought it was ours and I was like, that's not our account. Like it has 60,000 followers. They post all the time. Snapchat

highlights them. They posted our gender reveal. They posted my pregnant belly. They're very highly produced. Like there's a narrator. Someone's actually like editing and like editing and narrating everything. It's someone's job to create this. We're going to make sure we get all that money that they're collecting because i was like that's so that's so messed up like snapchat banned me for like linking to linktree okay fine but then to like put all my content on there and like monetize it when it's like you have to verify

who you are on every other platform you have to show id on tiktok on twitter even like just everything you do you have to show that it's you and And OF, anything. How is that not regulated on Snapchat? Like how is that not only not regulated but like something highly produced like that is allowed on Snapchat and stuff like that? My face. And also just the clickbait of it all. Like it's like literally just – it's called Trish Cam and people go on there. And the copyright of it. I mean it is infringement on your –

Yeah, it's my material. All your content, yeah. And it's not fair use at that point when you're like lying. No, no. It's straight up. But when I saw that, I was like, oh my gosh. And I's not fair use at that point when you're like lying. No, no. It's straight up. And when I saw that, I was like, oh my gosh. And I saw this Trish Cam stuff and I'm like so – and Snapchat is known to promote like pregnancy and pregnant people or even people – so like the fact that they're like monetizing like pregnancy and stuff like that, I'm like it pisses me off.

And I don't really know because I'm like – I guess I have to talk to a lawyer. I really don't like lawsuits. I don't like lawsuits because they are so expensive and Snapchat has just like obviously so much money. And like that's why it's annoying and that's why I just keep bringing it up because it's like one of those things where I'm just like – it probably like – you'd have to find someone like pro bono like Jeff did or something to just do it. Otherwise, it would cost you like – I know I've done lawsuits where it costs you like a million dollars and then you just like end up settling and then you get no money. And I've done some where I've won and I've gotten no money from it. So granted, Snapchat is big.

So it's like a little different. But I – You shouldn't even say that. We're going after you. We're going after you. I'll keep talking about it because it's, like, a little different. But I – You shouldn't even say that. We're going after you. We're going after you. Oh, I'll keep talking about it because it's a mess up thing. Or if there's a lawyer out there that wants to do this pro bono or some type – because I'm so – it actually, like, pisses me off. That pisses me off too.

It's, like, this content – like, it's actually so much work and it costs money. Like, gender reveal, we do the big party for the content and, like, it costs money for that. It's just, like, so annoying to be, like, ripped off in that sense. Like, this is literally my job and I spend I spend like so much money on it and stuff like that and just trying to make more money or whatever. And like to see someone just like rip it off and be able to do it and those headlines that they use. Like that one they arrested but there was like another one. Oh she has

to sell car to afford her baby. And I'm just like this is like that should I think someone sued tabloids and won like Star Magazine or something. Meghan Markle did. Did she? Yeah she won her lawsuit. Do you know how much? Let me see. I'm going to see. It was I think the Sun or Daily Mail or something. Meghan Markle did. Did she? Yeah, she won her lawsuit. Do you know how much? Let me see. I'm going to sue.

I think it was The Sun or Daily Mail or something. Snapchat's got the money, we know, where you're paying creators like David Dobrik, who's awful, and it's like, okay, so we're going to... And the stuff that they promote on there is wild and crazy, so I'm just like, I'm suing for sure. Oh, she only sued for like a symbolic amount. She didn't want actual money. Like a dollar? Yeah. Well, I'm not suing for a dollar. We're suing for a billion,

okay? I am so, so annoyed. It's a messed up shit. It makes me so mad. And Snapchat has money right now. It's literally liable, so. Alright. Well, maybe I'll look into it. If you're a lawyer out there and know anything about this. Well, maybe it's a thing. If you guys know, I'm really bad at this kind of stuff. But if anyone out there knows, send me an email. Trisha Paytas, YouTube at will. Maybe I'll look into it. If you're a lawyer out there and know anything about this. Well, maybe it's a thing. If you guys know, I'm really bad at this kind of stuff.

But if anyone out there knows, send me an email. Trisha Paytas, YouTube at Yahoo.com. My Birkin's also for sale through that. I can't wait for Pride Month. We're going to just display the Birkin here. Be like, here it is. Here's the Birkin. I tweeted the Birkin the other day about something.

I don't know what it was. But I was like, here's my rainbow. I don't know. Man, that rainbow Birkin. It's not for sale for $100,000. That's the minimum I'm taking for it. Well, especially, we never even talked about something. I don't know what it was. But I was like, here's my rainbow. I don't know. Man, that rainbow Birkin. It's not for a sale for $100,000. That's the minimum I'm taking for it.

Well, especially, we never even talked about it, but after being the number two gay podcast according to Grindr. Grindr, I know. We were right behind Trixie and Katya.

Yeah, so the Birkin is extra symbolic. I think that's when I tweeted it. I was like, look at me with my gay pride. I loved it. It was all like drag queens and then me in there.

It was so funny because people kept messaging me of like, oh, you guys were in the, before the official reveal of the podcast lineup was announced or whatever. I was like, how do you guys know this? Like where do you see it? And I guess it was – it had to be like on Grindr. I'm like, oh, that explains it.

Wait, really? It was on Grindr? What a flex. For like the end of 2023. Oh, my God. How many of my exes do you think were on Grindr and saw me there? They're like, wow. Same. She made it.

Yeah. Right, right. You're right. We made it. That was so funny. I kind of love that though. Me there. They're like, wow. Same. She made it. Yeah. Right, right. You're right. We made it. That was so funny. I kind of love that, though. Me too. Greider's a flex.

I didn't know you had to be in the act because I kept Googling. I thought it was like the Oscars or something. Like, where would you see the nominations? If we have an award show, we could call it the Oscars. Oh, period. Yeah. We could call it the Troscars. Yes.

That's cute. In case I need copyright infringement. Right, right, right, right. For sure. That's so fun. We can't give itement. Right, right, right, right. For sure. That's so fun. We can't give it away to any movies, though, because we see different movies. You'd be giving it to Taylor Swift. I wish that makes it more.

It'd be like friggin' No Hard Feelings and Color Purple being the same category. If Color Purple doesn't win, that's going to be so crazy. Iron Claw not even getting nominated is crazy to me. Zach, you can come to the Troskers. You'll win Best Actor over here. Oh, my God. I would love to. Zach Efron keeps getting brought up.

I think it was yesterday, too. I think it was. It keeps getting brought up. Everyone I know is talking about Zach Efron or someone they know that knows Zach Efron. I was like, oh, I love him. He is an ip boy. Okay. So TikTok.

Not only is it TikTok news, it's kind of Trish news. Just Trish news. I know. I was gagged. He's our Just Trish celebrity. And I was like, oh, no. I was gagged when I saw this. Matthew Stevens, who is – what episode?

How long ago was that when he came on? That was like September before I was pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. He – Don Yasmin. It was around Don Yasmin time. So like mid-September, late September.

Yeah. He is the one that started the Givenchy Boots fundraiser. So sweet. The We Are the World moment. Loved it. Yeah. That was great. Made me cry. Came, visited, was on the Just Trish set. The We Are The World moment. That was great. Made me cry. Came,

visited, was on the Just Trish set. On the Just Trish set. It was really nice. He actually flew himself off. I should note that. Okay, just so we paint a good character of him. I offered to fly him out, get him car service, hotel, and he literally booked all his own accommodations. And so, again, I don't mind. Obviously, if you're on our show,

I'd love to do it. I always offer it to everyone, but he booked it all himself, so that should be noted. Yes. He is very, very sweet. But also business savvy. We love that. Yeah. Okay.

His TikTok went viral because he was explaining his history with Mikaela. I always forget how to pronounce her last name. Niguero. Niguero? Is that how you say it? I don't know. Is she Hispanic? I could be making that up.

Oh, I thought – yeah, maybe. Mikaela. How do you say it? Mikaela? I always thought it would be like Irish, like the Keegan. I thought it might be like nothing or something like that. Naguera, right? Naguera?

Naguera. Naguera? Maybe she's Latina. I don't know. Maybe. She never talks about it. Her nationality. Wouldn't that be 23 and me?

Oh, my God. Okay. Mikaela Naguera. Naguera. Naguera. Oh, my God. Who I asked to be on the podcast left unseen. Oh, really?

I don't think she does podcasts. I think she's probably – she doesn't – it's just smart, honestly. Like, sometimes people talk way too much on podcasts. Like, we need to know. Like, the Chainsmokers saying they had, like, a threesome with the fans. Oh, yeah. Less, less, less. Everyone's like, the celebrities need to talk less, and I agree.

Except when they come here. Yeah, come on here. And talk more. Yeah, Zac Efron, come here. Or M Michaela. But basically Matthew Stevens had called her out because she had promised that she would do a review of his product, Illusion Bronze. And it was like four months of her agreeing that she would review the product. And there came a point where she was like, okay, I am definitely going to be posting it tomorrow.

Oh, she said that? She had said that at one point? Yes. Do you know when? It was the most recent one, in December, I believe. Oh, that might have been the kiss of death. Because I go back, I have a lot, I have different opinions on this. Okay, so interesting.

Same, I kind of waffle back and forth. But she said the one that really pushed him to take like a loan and go into debt was because she specifically said like- Wait, he's in debt he said he said he's in ten thousand dollars debt because he took a he took out a loan because when michaela said like i will um be posting my review tomorrow and michaela has said before that she gets anxious about promoting small businesses because sometimes she promotes them and they can't handle the volume of orders so he was worried about that happening and then making mckayla look bad so

he had he already like had an offer from shopify to uh to take out a ten thousand dollar loan so he could get the product ready so he had taken that loan and he had made the order to have enough products available um and then that next day came and mckayla never posted the review. Yeah. Wow. TikTok is divided on this and I get it. I get it too. I have to obviously be pro Matthew Stevens.

He came on the show. I can't say anything bad against him. You know what I mean? Okay. I take myself out of knowing him. Mikaela definitely – because my first – I didn't get the full scope. I was just seeing it on my FYP. So I didn't really get the full scope of it and my first thing was like I just know I just know people have sent me products and I'm just like well you know like I just don't review it sometimes

even like like you said like for oh could you do a shout out and then I like forget or like or I just didn't like the product or I don't know or just I'm lazy or something so sometimes people just send you product and like you don't have to so a lot of times people back in the day YouTubers would put disclaimers like you know I don't have to review your product if you send it to me. So sometimes I get sent products. Even if I order from somewhere once, they'll like send me products after. Why do fintechs like Float choose Visa?

As a more trusted, more secure payments network, Visa provides scale expertise and innovative payment solutions. Learn more at Visa.ca slash fintech. And I just like won't post or something like that. So my initial thought was like, well, no one's obligated to post. Even if you sent something, maybe I don't, I won't. I did promote something and obviously wasn't paid. Someone sent me something and I just really thought the product was like not good, but I kind of felt bad. And I was like, oh man, they kept like asking me to post and post.

And I felt, I felt bad. I was like, I guess, do I send it back or whatever? I'm like, let me just post. And it wasn't anything crazy. Some people might like it. It's not like something where I'm like, this is just a shit product. It just like didn't work for what I needed it to work for. And so I posted it and I was kind of like, but it's like, it was cute, but I was like,

I don't know. I don't, I didn't really like it. We don't like, you know, a product I'm talking about. I was like, this is not a good product. And I posted it because I felt bad. So I was like, well, people don't have to post. And what if like she didn't like it or something? You know what I mean? That was like, this is not a good product. And I posted it because I felt bad. So I was like, well, people don't have to post. And what if like she didn't like it or something? You know what I mean?

That was like my first thought. But hearing this, because I think you told me this too, that he said that she said that she was going to post, like she said. So if you like verbally tell someone like, yeah, I'll post it, then I think like, yay. And she specifically said, I'm going to leave a generous review in the text. Is this text? Oh my God. She showed the text message.

Yeah. Oh, that's why. Because even when companies like the Dr. Brown one text? Oh, my God. She showed the text message. Yeah. Oh, that's why. Because even when companies like the Dr. Brown one, not sponsored, but they sent us like a bunch of baby bottles, but they didn't even ask for a review. But that's different. That's a big company. Okay. We're talking about small business here.

Okay. So that's bad. That's bad. It's just bad to like say specifically like – I'm going to review and be generous and – And it wasn't – it was like four – it was a span of four months, right? It's like, yeah, I'm going to get to, it was like a first, like, I'm definitely gonna review it.

Like the followup. I'm going to, I'm going to get to it next week. And then it was like, I'm definitely posting the review tomorrow. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And from her perspective, I get it because like, I kind of get, again, like I'm kind of similar to where like, if someone was doing that to me, I would want to like make them happy, you know?

And I'd be like, oh, I'll definitely do it. Like, you know, like trying to like appease them. Yeah. But. Then just do it. Like, you know, like trying to like appease them. Yeah. But. Then just do it at that point. Like someone said, you did this video, this four minute video. Like you literally could have just done that video for him. Or at least maybe like, even if you feel uncomfortable with a full dedicated TikTok,

like if you just Instagram stored it or even like, you know, stored it anywhere, you know? Well, I think, yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure he got the last laugh on this because not only did she do the video, like it was weird. So her video – he made a couple videos about her and then she finally made a video back like a day or two ago. Yeah. And it was a weird video because on one hand she's like, yeah, this product is great. But then she's like, he's a liar.

What was she calling him a liar for? The thing that she – which I can understand her point. The thing that she kind of called him out on was that Matthew had alleged that she was getting spray tans instead of using his product because – Oh, he did? What did he say? I didn't see that part. What did he say? He said that she looked – like she was posting videos where she was like visibly tanner without even like mentioning the product or whatever.

But she looked tanner and he thought that she was getting spray tan because she looked kind of like orange. But Mikayla in her response said no, like that – he said that was getting spray tan. I've never got a spray tan because she looked kind of like orange. But Mikayla, in her response, said no, he said that I was getting spray tan. I've never got a spray tan. I've been using this product. But why did he care if she was getting a spray tan? Because he didn't want her promoting the product and looking orange because then that would make people not want to buy his product. When is this?

What timeline is this? He's just like, oh, you look orange. Don't promote my product or what? I don't think he said it. He was nervous that she was going to promote it while looking orange I guess. But then she it was just the color grading like she showed before and after. She's like I'm

going to take the color grading off and then you're going to see what it looked like and she'll look normal you know. So. Oh my god. I didn't get into any of these details. I was missing all of this on the FYP. That part I feel like is when maybe we lost the plot a little bit like you know. That always happens. It's always a plot. Because, like, I definitely would be on his side

for this, you know. And then you, that's the problem. Then, like, a little, little thing happens and I'm just like, oh, no. Now you, now you're the liar. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I am. Um, so that part kind of lost me. But other than that, yeah, she. Well, that's not the worst thing. No. It's just like a misunder or like an assumption, I should say. It's like a wrong

assumption. But then to watch her video where I'm like, he's like, he lied about this. Oh, my God, what happened? I know. It was just that part. That was like. So would you say her rebuttal back was like a positive review or was it like she's angry with him? She she's like, I don't owe anyone. At the end of the day, I don't owe anyone a review, which is true.

Yeah. But you can't agree to it. You can't rely on your small business to be supported by me. Oh, OK. Like she's young and I think she rely on your small business to be supported by me. I'm like, oh, okay. Like, she's young, and I think she just has a little, like, fiery attitude in it. But, yeah, because I didn't advise him to take out the $10,000 or whatever like that, which, like, that's true, too. But, like, if you know, okay, tomorrow, it's like when we have a big episode, right? We know it's going to, like, do well and stuff like that.

It's just, like, you're just, like, into it. Not that we, like, do anything else. It's like we, like, put money. Oh, well, let's cash a check right now for this or whatever but you know I think when you like know like okay it's coming tomorrow like be prepared that makes sense for sure yeah like that's what we're doing with our bling cups I ordered like 20 bling cups I was like maybe we should order like 100 maybe people want to buy those I don't know so now we're reading anyways but um so I get that for sure but I mean if it's your last ten thousand dollars and you're going in debt, maybe don't invest it. But you know what I mean? But I do think he's very smart because like he got Mama Tot to review.

And I was like, Mama Tot, did you know her? Yeah. On TikTok. She reviewed his Tanner. And so he seems to be very good at like marketing. And even with all this, maybe it wasn't – probably wasn't his intention. But maybe. I don't know.

Who knows? I mean, it went viral. And I see so many comments, especially people who don't like Mikayla. Even people who do like Mikayla many comments especially people who don't like Michaela even people who do like Michaela but even people who don't like Michaela are like I'm going to support your business and stuff like that it literally reminds me of like Mascara Gate where it's like either way you like her and then want to try it or you don't like her

and you want to do a shady like well Michaela didn't review it but I'm going to review it you know what I mean? I imagine like the last laugh instantly I'm like okay I kind of understood. Matthew, just because Mikayla, and it is, I think, a people-pleasing kind of thing and a young kind of thing where it's just like you say stuff that you don't necessarily mean. But she oversold it. You know what I mean?

She's like, my parents came from a small business. I definitely want to support a small business. I'm going to leave a generous review. She just oversold it and overpromised. That's the bad part, yeah. But I used to be like that. I'm going to leave a generous review. Like she just oversold it and like over promised. That's the bad part, yeah. But I used to be like that. I totally used to be like that for sure, yeah. That's why I get it because I've been like that too.

I'm like, oh my god, I totally – like I'm going to – especially when someone comes at you directly. Oh, for sure. Me with Nick Acana. I'm like, I love you. Can't wait to be here. You know, and then they come and you're just like, yeah, it's a lot. It is very that vibe. It's very that vibe.

Like she just oversold, over promised, and then it it kind of bit her in the butt a little bit. Because then I was like, well, I didn't tell you to buy a first class ticket here. You know what I mean? I just thought you were visiting. But then, yeah. Yeah. At the end of the day. You got them excited and hyped.

You made a promise that you couldn't keep. Yeah, totally, totally. That's why I'm just – I tell everyone even here when they want to be my friend or like, let's hang out. I'm like, it's just – Yeah, you've been better. I'm like, I don't hang out. I love the idea of it.

We'll never hang out. The worst texture, don't open DMs. I'm just really, really bad, just so you know up. Like, I love the idea of it. We'll never hang out. The worst texture, don't open DMs. Like, I'm just really, really bad, just so you know up front. Because that's just, like, the truth of it. I just don't want anyone to ever think that I'm, like, no, they don't want to be people. Anyways, it's all candid. But, yeah, definitely not. And I will say Matthew Stevens has been really great with that.

Like, he'll, like, text me or DM me, and I'll see sometimes. Like, I do respond. I'm never, like, just a total bitch and don't respond. But I, like, respond, like, you know, here and there. Once in a while. Yeah, that's fine. And he's very much, like, I know you don don't respond. But I like respond like, you know, here and there. Once in a while. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, and he's very much like, I know you don't like tux. And like he's very sweet about it. And he's never like, you know, whatever.

So it's always very nice and gets it. So I've had great experiences with Matthew Stevens. But I think he's smart. I think with this kind of stuff – yeah, I think he's smart. I think he's smart at marketing and – And their product is good. I still use mine all the time. Yeah, you love it.

My Asian bronze. Yeah. And I do like – I meant to use it today but I didn't have enough time to let it settle and wash it off. I still use mine all the time. Yeah, you love it. My Asian bronze. Yeah. And I do like... I meant to use it today, but I didn't have enough time to let it settle and wash it off. Oh, that would have been great because look at me.

But I did use it last week and I liked it a lot. My mom likes it. She uses it. I'm kind of just like loyal to my Jergens and it's not anything... And honestly,

my Jergens can be orange, so you know what I mean? I don't want them to think... Because look, there's like oranginess right there. But I think I'm just... I'm so scared to try tanners and stuff like that.

So like my mom loves it though, for real. my mom yeah i really like it yeah and you love it so it looks good the color looks even on michaela when she took the gradient off i was like oh that looks really good yeah when she took the so maybe i need to i don't know is it messy i don't know why i should probably try it no you should try it actually it doesn't get on anything no like once it's like on you know some like transfer a lot like this doesn't like transfer like it doesn't transfer to my like if i sit on like a sheet or something, like it doesn't transfer to fabric. No, not really. Like I remember at first I was scared because I was like, oh, like it looked kind of like green tinted at first and I was scared.

But then once I – two hours I washed it off and it like looked just very natural. How do you put it on? Because jerkins you put on wet after the shower. It's – I take it – I put it on after I shower. But like I dry off and then I just use the mitt. It's like a foam. The mitt always gets me. I just use my Jergens and just rub it all over.

It's like a lotion. It's like a foam. It looks good. It looks better than my Jergens. I really like it a lot. Not drying? Because I have dry skin too. No. I moisturize after I wash it off just because it lasts longer. I don't moisturize either. That's why I'm dry.

I remember you told him that. No lotion. Yeah, so maybe that's why. I don't exfoliate. I don't use lotion. So I think I'm the worst candidate for spray tans. Just dry. Even my jerkins, my leg is like a dinosaur right now.

It looks crazy. It looks insane. I don't know why. And I keep doing the jerkins. Maybe I shouldn't. Maybe I should try the Luscious Monster. You should give it a whirl. But Mama Tau loved it.

I love that. It seems like people like it. It seems like he's like, at least knows what he's doing with marketing and I think like, probably wasn't a fortunate situation anyways.

He'd probably rather have Michaela give a glowing review but oh well. Glad we ended on a more positive note. We had ups and downs. Where'd my sticker go? Moses kept taking my,

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