Just Trish - Draft Episode for May 12, 2026

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

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I feel like I was being trolled or something. Like it didn't feel like a real episode. I know Sam Levinson's been hinting that he wanted to go forward, but I just don't know who else when the cast is also on the same page. But you are. I'm on. Let me know. In today's episode, thank you to Oli Pop for sponsoring day's episode of Jess Trish.

Enjoy the hot topics. It's Monday morning. It's Monday morning. And we're feeling older and... Wiser. Older and wiser. 38, baby. 38 years old.

3 8s. I love that. And someone mentioned 226 is 2 plus 2. Oh, 2 plus 6 is 8. Yeah. I like to ever mention that, but I got it wrong. Yes, it's 8. We love 8s.

We love everything. Life is good. Yeah, we had a great weekend. It's going to be such a good vibe today. We had such a good weekend. Everything went great. Family was here. Birthday.

Mother's Day Dad's 70th birthday Yeah there was just so yeah We're celebrating Elvis's birthday this week Which is really exciting And England is next week I'm going to England next week Which is crazy

There's still a few tickets Like I think there's like a few tickets left For the royal seats that are unleashed But other than that it's like all sold out So I'm so excited I'm feeling so confident My dad yesterday we did karaoke And he's like have you been taking voice lessons

And I'm like actually I have been I have been going so hard Sam I think he's last name Suey. Sam Sue. I think I'm saying it right. And Casey, who are our friends. Their daughter,

Alea comes over here for parties. They're party friends. We love them so much. They're amazing vocalists. They were in the whiff and poofs. They're so many. You know, he sings. Casey sings with like the LA symphonic.

I don't know. He sings with like a hundred piece orchestra. They're the most amazing people ever. And we met them through like parties because we have kids around the same age. And they're so good. So they've been coming over to give me a voice lessons. They gave me a voice lesson last week.

And I feel so. confident now. Oh my god. Just wait to you guys hear me live and they were like, wait, you're actually good and I think it's because of them. They were helping me sing through my face and not through my voice. I get to feel the vibration. I really want to do a video like a singing lesson video with them because they're also just amazing. They're amazing singers. They sing like defying gravity. They're just like beautiful singers and they're also beautiful people. They're like so nice and they didn't make me feel judged. So anyways, all that to say, come see me at Royal Brahaal, May 24th. Um, vibes are great and before we get like too far into it too. You guys,

the big announcement which you guys saw yesterday if you followed me on social media is this is the biggest thing that's ever happened to me personally i don't think anything gets bigger than this i have my first ever meal and really the only meal that matters to me the trish trio at benny hans did you know no i mean i knew something benihana but i didn't know the specific wait how did you know the ben handed i told you yeah okay you did know you were like i have a super secret thing with Benny Hana coming up. Oh, did I say that? Oh, my gosh.

I know. I want to surprise you too, because I feel like you always know everything that I want to surprise. Honestly, Trish Crave didn't know. I'm going to just shout out Trish Crave. Trish Crave had someone, one of the Benihana, um, uh, people that worked at Benihana at the location we did a shout

out at Newport Beach. They had taken a picture. And it was open. It was open when we did the commercial. So people were there. So we were making pictures. They posted. And then, um, I don't know how Trish Crave knew, but they're like,

oh, Trish has a clap with Benny Hana. And I was like, oh my God. How did you know? And I was like, to me, this is like a baby announcement. To me, this is like a big deal. So I was like, can you just like take it down? I really wanted to be like a surprise. And he was so sweet.

So once again, Aiden, I will give you, I will give you your exclusive. And he's, he's so nice. He's always so nice to do it. And usually I don't mind when things get leaked. Like obviously the hacks. There was background actors that took pictures and stuff like that. But this was like everything. So, but thank you, Aden, for always supporting Trish Crave and all that stuff like that.

So go to Benny Hanna. That's why I have to do these podcasts earlier because I'm going to a different Benihana every day this week in Southern California. So we're going to an Encina one. Santa Monica, Arcadia, Anaheim, Newport Beach, Temecula. We mapped them out. We're going to all of them. So every day this week, catch me at a Benihana.

Catch me at a Benihana this week. I am so excited. I literally was texting my mom. I'm like, you want to drive like an hour and a half to go to Arcadia, Benihana? And she's like, yeah, like Al-Laportis. Like, let's go. My sister, too, was like, let's go to the San Antonio. Like, we're going to the Encina one.

So obviously, so that's why I start earlier because I was like, you know, we got to make sure we get there. But anyways, I'm so excited. I'm excited and it is my favorite meal. I feel like maybe there's a, maybe, maybe Jimmy already did the compilation because I did a vlog, but there's like a compilation of me ordering. I order one thing from Benihana Trio, and that's the Benihana Trio

and they renamed it Trish Trio. I think for like a limited time. I don't know if this is like a permanent. I'm assuming these little inserts are just temporary, but hey, I don't know how long it's gonna be there go. I want to go to the Vegas one. That one is the five story one. Maybe I'll try and go this weekend before I go to England. I don't know.

But yeah, I love the Benihanna trio so much. It's filet mignon, it's chicken, it's shrimp, and the vegetable fried rice, which usually doesn't come with the Benihana Trio, but this comes with the vegetable fried rice. Well, maybe it does. It does. But you have to ask for the vegetable trio. And I'll tell you why I get the vegetable fried rice. A little hack if you're not getting the Trish Trio is because they make all the fried rice together and they usually do the chicken fried rice. But if you ask for vegetable fried rice, they make that first because they don't know if the chicken, if it's like vegan or whatever, so they don't have the chicken

like contaminated, as opposed to veggie fried rice. So if you ask for it without the chicken, because the trio I get has the chicken, I get the fried rice first. So they serve you the fried rice first and then they make the chicken. So that's like a little hack we do. You get it hot and fresh. And this one comes with the veggie fried rice, which is amazing because it already has like the chicken shrimp and you can obviously just add that into your fried rice. And what's really special about this is they have new butter is at Benihana and the truffle butter comes with mine. But they have other butter. They have the hot honey butter and they had the, was it lobster butter, I think. It's like really, was a lobster butter. Yeah, it was. I got to try

all of them and I did pick the truffle butter because I thought it just paired very nicely with the steak. But I, this is like, I, this is like, I. It does not get, like, honestly, it doesn't get bigger. I know people like dancing. This is, this is the biggest. This is, it does not, it does not get bigger in my opinion, because this has been my childhood. This has been my Christmas with my dad, my Thanksgiving with my Uncle Joe,

like a celebration. Every pregnancy we'd go there. That's the first thing you talked about was Ben Hanna. Okay. Not to spoil anything in my book. My memoir, I'm not kidding, has such a big, big portion. And how impactful Benihanna was how I found out, this is a little spoiler, I guess, but how I found out the quarantine was even happening was Beniana.

You remember this. I remember it. And I felt so bad because I was like, I just met her and I wanted her to be happy and to get to go to the place you wanted. Okay, the sign on the Encino Benihana said I went at 11 a.m. I remember this so much. We had our first date on the 14th, 15th, Monday, March 16th, 2020. I pull up to the Encino Benihana. It's pouring grain that day.

And no cars are out. And I'm like, this is so weird. On Ventura Boulevard, no cars. I pull up to the Benihana and no one's there. And I was like, this is so odd. But, you know, I like to get there right when they open out at 11 a.m. And there was a sign on the door. Due to a global pandemic, we are closed.

And I was like, what? Global pandemic. Yeah. Yeah. I texted Moses. This is two days after knowing Moses. You know it was a global pandemic? No.

Yeah, that's what I texted. I was like, oh, my God. I thought. I thought the world was ending because nobody was out. It kind of was. And I was like, I remember texting Moses and I was so scared. I was like so shaken. I even tried calling Benny Hana because it was like 11-15.

I thought maybe takeout. You tried Benny and Anna. Yeah, Benny and Hannah. Baby number four, number five. If we end up adopting twins, that's going to be it. If we do in feature, I don't know why. Maybe those could be our names. But I called because I was like, I wanted to take out.

I was so, there's more to the story that's a little more like, you guys know my food. my food triggers, okay? But there's more to the story because Moses on, because of our first date went into a second day, I missed my Benihanna date with my mom and sister on that Sunday and they ended ordering pizza. So then I was just annoyed and I was like, now I have no one to go to Benihana because I didn't want to sit there by myself. Although you go by yourself. It's kind of fun. You get to sit with seven other people, which is a key. Like we just met and then I hear this whole story about how upset she was about this thing.

And I couldn't understand exactly what part is the upsetting part. And now I know it's the fact that she didn't go to Benihana. At the beginning, I thought it was just that your mom and sister, like, you guys didn't get to go together somewhere. Well, because I was late because you dropped me off late. We were supposed to go right at 11 when they opened. Moses drops me off at 1130. They're like, we didn't think you were coming back. So we're just going to order pizza.

They had Papa John's already there. And I was like, so annoyed. And Moses texted me, I hope I hope the rest of your days and mate. I was like, actually it's not. Actually, it's not. Yes. And I did say that. And then he's like, why I would have gone with you?

I was like, no, no, it's already ruined. Like just no. And then I'm like, I'm going to go the next day. It's fine. because I really wanted it and it's it was an addiction and then the global pandemic hit and I didn't get the Benihana and um it's it it makes the story makes my memoir because there is just it has such a tie to so a lot of layers that's how we met so get crying at the Hage before yes that was Moses's first impression I remember I was I know when I read early text I was just so I was so awful I don't even know why you kept

texting me I was literally just like no actually I think I was I don't know I don't know what was happening anyway I can testify to the Benihana importance in your life you know I I am like, we need to go. When I was pregnant in Malbu, we went three times a week. We sit there at 11 a.m. And sometimes you get, like, a private chef at 11 a.m. Which tip your chefs, if they're going to just cook for you, because that's a lot of work.

They do the full show and stuff like that. And I remember, like, we would just go all the time. They'd give me, like, big sauces to take home. I think at the time, it was, like, those hot sauces and stuff. Even in the commercial that comes out on Wednesday, they, I'm, like, going, they have, like, to go cup of the truffle butter. It's just so.

You've been to Benihana? I did when I was Trish Fluence for my book. birthday in 2020, I think, or no, 2022 for my birthday. Dary and I went to Benihana for my birthday. I think because you had just posted about the week. Real story. Darian can testify. Yeah.

And Enzino. Wow. The Encino location is great. It's been there for a while, but I love it because they have the parking in the back, so it makes it easy to go. That is so, was it around the time because I think I influenced Kim Kardashian. Remember I posted I was at Benihana? I was pre-Kim Kardashian.

Oh, pre-Kim Kornash. Oh, pre-Kim 23, I think. When we did the podcast? Yeah. So I was 22. Wow. Wow. Oh my gosh.

Wow, I really, okay, I love that. I remember we posted we at Benihana, and the next day, Kim Kardashian posted her kids at the same location. And I was like. And with a little chef hat. With the little chef hat. With the little chef hat. Like, Malbu had the chef hat too, which I love. I'm not a gatekeeper.

I love a church fluid. Yes. Go get the Benihon Trio. And if you're in Southern California, you might just see us at one of those. And I love it. Because also, too, that's what gave me about Kim Kardashian's kids being there. Because it's like, you really do sit with like eight other people. Like, if you're two people, you're going to sit with six other people.

And that is kind of fun of it. Like, it's fun to have a private chef, too, when you go at, like, 11 a minute. But there is kind of fun. Like, today we're going a little later because the podcast. So it would be interesting because you just get to see. And then do we tell people at the table? Because I influence people at the table, by the way. You know, that says Trish real.

I'm Trish. I know. I wish my picture was on there. That's, I bring up the commercial. I just like, let's me actually. Wear the, I think, let me keep the chef coat. Maybe I could wear the chef coat today. I should actually.

I should do some surprise appearances to start cooking for people. No, we can. No, when we walk in, you should wear it. And we walk in. we're like, hi, we're here from the, from corporate. We want to, yeah, we're here to monitor and, you know, do a quality check to the Trish Trio. We're just, happen to be a spokesperson enjoying this. I don't know.

That might be a little, a little crazy, but I don't hate the idea. Maybe we'll try it. Next location. Encina's our home-based location. I don't know if we want to be. They know us there. I've Trish fluent people at the table as well, which I love that word. You should have coined it.

You should trademark that. It's so good. When we go, because the other little like, it's not a hack, but we saw someone do it one time. I love the fried rice. Like, we take it home. Like, they give you boxes to take home and stuff like that. I will order double vegetable fried rice. And then I make Moses order double.

So we have four fried rice between us. And then people at the table will be like, oh, how did you get two? And I was like, oh, no, you just can order two. And they're like, oh, my gosh. Like, we're going to get two too. So, like, you know, that's a little hack. Betiano will give you anything. They literally will, like, customize how you want.

And they make it at your table. So it's great. Ari is my vegan friend. And she gets, like, tofu there. She gets the noodles. And they, like, they really are, like, so comedy. and they cook it first for her and stuff like that. There's so many options there.

They cook it to how you like it. If you want extra butter, if you want extra spicy, they put the chicken to the side. Like there's so many ways. Literally, it's the best. It makes me so happy and I'm so excited. And I did the commercial and I got to cook. I got to flip the shrimp in my hat.

I got to cook my own meal and stuff like that. It was so good. I probably had 20 fresh Trish trios to try because they want to make it fresh for the commercial. So I was usually in the vlog. I was just muck banging the whole day. It was so good. She was like, this is the best day of my life.

Best day of my entire, no, best day of my entire life. I was beaming. Like, I wish you would have come with me that day because it was in Newport, so it was like a little far. But it's a beautiful occasion. I think that might have been one of the originals as Newport. It had all the original. That's my 10.

Yeah, Rocky Aoki, who started Benihana. They had him with like Elvis. It was very cool. It was very open, very big. It was like right on the water. So best day of my life. That was she was best day my life. And this is, and I can't wait to go every single day this week.

It's like, and I got to work. Got to work. That's why I tell them I was like, gotta work, gotta go. But you're gonna come with me to try it for the first time, which is fine. I'm gonna take just like different people every single day. I'm like, let's all go get the Trish Trio. So check it out. They're everywhere.

They're in Cleveland. My Cleveland family, there's one in Cleveland, which is great there. The one I really want to go to too is in Miami. There's one right on the water and it looks so pretty. But the Vegas one, there's a Benny Hanna Village in Westgate. They're all over. Check them out today. We love the Trish Trio.

Anyways, that was my big announcement. And so I hope it was exciting for everyone else. I don't know. It is. I'm hungry. Yeah, I know, I know. Literally, I was like on it. And Moses was outside. We got to start right at 10 o'clock today.

You got out right at 10, and I was very excited. So anyways, it's going to be a great day. You guys know, I'm already excited. So that happened. And did you watch Euphoria last night? You know what's so funny? While you were getting ready, I was like, I forgot to post my little story, but we were watching Euphoria.

And my cat was really locked in for your scene. Really? And I took a photo. Yeah, cheese was like really locked in. Does she not usually lock in for TV? He usually doesn't like watch the screen. I'm so sorry. It's so sorry to cheese.

Not binary. Actually, just kidding. He is like, he is. So you say she had the cheese pool there? The what? What? A cheese pool. What's a cheese pool?

What's a cheese pool? Oh, a gravitational? No, like in attention. Oh, he was pulled in. Okay. Okay. On fire today. I love it.

Yeah. And then when your scene was over, he stopped watching actually. Yeah, like literally. Oh my gosh. She was locked in just for me. Yeah. We got a lot of stories. People post of their pets watching the podcast.

I love that. I love one of those pets are. We're pet-friendly, I think. Entertainment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And then, yeah, once Sydney, Sweetie's big tattas were busting through skyscrapers, I had him turn away. He was still a baby. He's only three. I did not watch. It was a wild episode last night. Okay. I need to clarify, too, that I did not have a skyscrapers.

script. Obviously, it seemed like Sini Sweeney had a script for Cassie because I, okay, because I was like doing all these things being like, yeah, it was all improv. It was all improv for me. They literally like, you're just going to interview Cassie. And so there is probably like an hour-long podcast, not even kidding, of just me interviewing Cassie. So I didn't know what they were going to use. And yeah, obviously my acting was not really acting because I remember, I think I was talking about on this podcast. I remember even coming home and being like, I feel like I was being trolled or something. Like it didn't feel like a real episode. And I thought like, is this like some setup?

Is this like punked? Am I getting like, it was very... But it sounds like they wanted your reactions, right? Like they wanted to get your real reactions to the stuff she was saying. I remember that was one where I'm like, uh, I was like, I don't know what to say. And then obviously like all the stuff that came out and like the, I remember all the stuff that came out on the news later. I was just like mirroring. Like you know what I mean?

It was just very interesting because I didn't, I wasn't expecting the turn. I didn't know much about Cassie prior. But I wasn't. expecting the turn. Honey, I don't think anybody was. Okay, really? Okay, so this wasn't like a known thing that she was going to do. Because I was like, did I miss some?

I tried to like watch some episodes to catch up. I'm like, am I missing some chat? And then all of a sudden she started talking like politics and stuff. And I remember Cassie. And I remember being like, I didn't know how to, you know me. I didn't know how to react because obviously we don't talk about politics too much. I'm not too like informed on this stuff. And I also just don't know how to react.

It's like if clavicular was on my podcast. Like how would I react? You know what I mean? It's like not comparing. Well, I guess Cassie. She's the character. Yeah, okay, a little clavicular vibe. Yeah, so it was very male-centered, all this stuff.

And I was very much like, yeah, so all of it was, they showed a still of Cassie, the official like Euphoria, showed us still of like Cassie crying. And that's the one I always referenced because they did, but they didn't know, I'm showing it in the episode. I remember towards the end, I was directed to like start to make her cry and like really attack her. Oh my God, I want that scene so bad.

I want them to release it because, again, Then I remember she just started like cry and the way her like eyes were filling up and like she got so scared and I just remember being like oh my god they're gonna use that one. I don't even remember really what I said so I wanna see it too.

And then when I saw what they, I was like oh my, of course I'm in a scene like that. I'm like yeah. I love when you said okay. It was powerful. Okay, you think it was Emmy worthy? I think so that one line like you had so much expression in it.

I felt everything your character went through. I felt your character's confusion. I felt your character trying to process what the guest Cassie was. saying I really felt everything in that one line. Okay, good. Yes, it contained multitudes, I believe. Okay, that's what I was trying to convey.

And I, okay, I learned this from Suzanne Summers, who had one line in American graffiti in, like, 1973, the Ron Howard movie. She, and she became, she became like a global brand empire. She had the thigh master, if you don't know, Susan Summers. Rest in peace. She was wonderful. I loved her so much. She was in Thre's company.

But anyway, so her first movie was, like, one line. And it was, it was supposed to be, I love you. And then they didn't even end up using the audio. They just had her like, they just had like the like lip version of it. But she was the most memorable from that. She's like, I was the blonde and the Thunderbird for like the rest of the 70s. So I remember like even if you get one line, like make it count. So every line I was really trying to deliver.

I will say that line was an honest reaction of like, I remember looking being like, I don't know how to someone is just getting canceled right next to you. And you're in the same screenshot. And you're just like, it's like a guess where it's like, we're getting canceled together. and I'm like, what do I do? So I panicked, the real Trish set in, and I was like, I'm like, what do I do? None of my agents are there from CA because it's like midnight

by the time we're shooting this scene, and I'm like, okay, I don't know what to do, and I'm just like, keep, and you want to just be crucial, so you're like, just keep it going. And no one's really giving real direction. No one's really, like, saying anything. Everyone's just, like, letting this happen as if it's a real podcast. So, and then Cassie's locked in over there. She's, like, locked in.

And I guess she had, obviously, a script now that we've seen. I was, if you don't know, I was, playing video podcaster number three. That was me on the call sheet. Oh, that was your character, just me. Yes, I post the call sheet. It is a video podcaster number three. And I was so curious to know who would be video podcaster one and two,

because I didn't know it. I literally was thinking my head, who else? I was like, I said, I'd be Nick Vile or something. You know what I mean? But I think it was just maybe they were actors. Or maybe not. Were they podcasters? I don't know.

Were they actors or podcasters? Probably have actors, I think. I think they were podcasters. Yeah, we would have known about it, I think. So, I don't know. I just, I remember being video podcaster number three, and I was stoked about it. But yes, mine was real and raw,

but apparently there was a script that I was unaware of. I didn't know the storyline before or after, okay? So I was just, I was just supposed to interview and I was like, I would love to see more. I wish they would do like a whole, maybe if there's enough demand, maybe they'll do. The Trish cut, yes. Don't they have, like, White Lotus does that, like, after the show.

They have, like, behind the scenes. Yeah. Actually, they did that for the earlier episodes. Like, they released the behind the scenes. So there is hope. Yeah, it was like the next week. they release behind the scenes and they show more of like Alexa Demi for like episode one or two so there's hope okay let's demand it for next week so yeah on HBO yes I would release the Trish cut

release the Trish cut release the Trish cut release the Trish cut hashtag release the Trish cut get it's rending everybody I don't know if I want to see it honestly though because then I remember I remember when they posted the crying screenshot of her I was like I forgot what I even said I know I like was going in because that was they were just like go in and like make her cry and obviously she's an actress so she could just cry out or anything. But I remember being like, wow, I'm so good because she just started like tearing up. And I was like, wow, I really crushed it.

So I would love to see it. Although I was very happy with it. I was so happy with it. The fact you got a line. I was after Vinnie Hacker. I was like, oh, Lord, anything can happen. And you know I have that history of get him to the Greek, Elvin and the Chipmunks, yes man, and wonderlust all had a line that got cut at some way.

And I was like, I don't know if I was even in those movies. So I was expecting a Vinny Hacker at it for a show. sure maybe my pink dress would be shown my blonde hair or something. But I got a little face time. They even gave me the screenshot on my birthday. They sent it over to my agent and they're like, oh, if Tricia wants to post this, I was so excited. I was like, first look at you for it.

So at least I got that. And you know what? A win's a win. Emmy Nom. My HBO Max Day is ready. I love L.A. White Lotus. He did a rivalry too.

I'm the HBO Max girly now. And I'm, if you need someone to give a line or a look, I'm there. I think White Lotus I could still get a line in. They're shooting in the south of France. It's all about fame. I think I could get a line in there. And we know it's a working script. It's all very much real and in the moment.

You should be like you and Jordan in the amazing race. In France of France. Like you just stop in at that hotel for one night. That's a good one. Okay. We're open to it. We are so open. Let us know.

I would love to be a part of it. I really loved it. These are great shows. I'm happy. That was my run. And then we ended it with the Benihana Trish show. It's really just, What's what's amazing about

Euphoria is that the way they treated you and us and everything with the, you know, like you were a cast member. Yes. No, I mean, it's really beautiful, you know, like. No, that is so true. They really treated you so beautifully throughout the whole process and after it.

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It's very our vibe and aesthetic. Thank you for the pink. Yes, they really, yeah, I really felt like I was Rue. You know, I was Roo's mom. You know, I felt very much like I was, celebrity from start to finish. They do car services. They gave me a publicist on the carpet to walk me. Like it was, it was a key. I loved it. I almost loved, because I remember when they

did the press release, I remember I was like one of the first headshots, like Natasha Leon and like all of something. I was just like, oh no, and I remember I panicked for a minute. I'm like, people are going to excited me to be like this main character. So I was like, but I kind of liked that. And I loved just being like main character energy. I am the star of euphoria. You know what I mean? Like it was fun. And the people who were gagged were gagged and people were like, this was, it was everything and I was happy for it. But yeah, I got to do the photo shoot, the little photo shoot. Remember where all the stars got to do it in that little room and they posted me?

And it just felt very, it felt very good. Hacks as well. Hax was giving VIP all the way. So it was, it was very fun. It killed me. I want to know so badly what you said after. Okay. Like, I do wonder what your follow-up question was.

I promise. I remember that moment. I remember being like, I don't know what to say. Because I remember like looking around to people because I'm like, I was like, because it is one of those things where you're just. like, am I going to get canceled for even acting in this scene? Like, it was, yeah. I know, like, there is a follow-up question.

I don't know what that is, but we would love to know. Only Sam Levinson has that director's cut, which is the most insane thing to see. But did you say the clip I sent you? Because you don't watch it last night, but did you see the clip I sent you of Cassie doing the ASMR? No. Oh, wait, you should watch it right now. I sent it to your Twitter. And sometimes when I send Moses, like sexy girl things, I think he's like, yeah, I sent it.

You would ask her the only people I DM on Twitter because I feel like you guys see it there. I don't know why. But I just never too. Can you watch it now? I want to get your reaction. Because Moses, by the way, loves an ASMR, especially those ear ASMRs. He was... I didn't even know those were a thing. Well, you're not a real true story in them because I did probably like 30 ASMR videos with those ears.

I was only into your roleplay ASMR. Oh, okay. You weren't into the year. Like I'm never on chat on Twitter. Like, it's created a passport. Oh, you have to make the, yeah. What? Wait, you know, I DM you all the time on Twitter.

Are you not seeing them? No. Sometimes I send Moses, like, really pretty girls. And he'd be like, why are you sending me this? And I was like, because I want to remember for myself. Like, I want to remember the outfit. He's like, well, send it to you. And I'm like, I can't do that.

I'm trying to understand. Usually she sends me something. It's something about, oh, let's go to this restaurant. Let's get this thing or something. Like, I'm trying to understand what is this about. Yes. And I'm like, I could not figure that one out. I was like, okay, what is it?

I was like, I just want to remember her outfit because I wanted to get it. He's like, send it to you. And I was like, send it to you. They must have watched your SMR. This is the microphone he used. The one with the ears. I'm watching that. Oh, yeah.

This is literally. We have the same microphone. They watched your ASMR. And I would do like the ear looking and stuff like that because it is like a trend. I mean, I don't think they got it from me, but I was like Moses loved. Did I get it for you as a gift?

No, no. I got. Well, maybe you got. I mean, I wanted the first one with the white ears. That was mine. But I think for like your birthday I got you one. Sounds right. Yeah.

So I used to use it like to do ASMR like rain, ocean. It's like ears and you hear it three dimensionally. It's amazing. microphones and then after that when you did your ASMR you went and got two more I love these ear ones and you could tickle the ears you can like whisper in the ears like you know she is like like like a crazy way that was like that's so funny I know I love that they thought of that because I remember at the time I was like it's kind of like a good idea but so like it's like not how is like that's not I mean I was giving ASMR

no I mean you don't just bang the microphone on your boobs you needed it Hang the microphone with the big bazinnas, everybody. They needed Moses to be the ASMR expert. Yeah. He's like, you know. Consultant. You would have said that's not how you do it. It was a wild episode.

It was good. I enjoyed it. I know. I agree with the sentiment. And also because I'm just like, I don't know. It is kind of like what is happening on the show. But everyone is seated. You know what I mean?

I think everyone's kind of like, I don't know what's going on. I am along for the ride. Yeah. If you just like let go of the concept of the. the first two seasons, you know, you just like leave that in the past and take it for something new. It is absurd and outrageous and entertaining, I think. Yeah. The first two episodes are a little slow, but post wedding and on have been a wild ride, you know.

What is going on? I love it. Even when she turned into like the big woman and stuff like, I was like, I don't really know what's happening, but I like it. And I know the reference, of course, but I'm like, this is. Didn't really advance the plot further at all just to do it. Just for kicks and giggle. You know what I mean?

Like you think she got paid a lot. I mean, look, I would do it for free. I'm not saying anything like that. But you think because she is so, she is such massive and like just such a big star. Like, I think she got paid a lot because she's getting like all the brand deals. Everything. She must got paid a ton for this, right? I mean, she's said that she doesn't really make much from euphoria.

So I don't know. And I do think she wanted to see the character all the way through because she is kind of carrying the season. I think she's the only one 120% locked in. Everyone else kind of like foot out the door. Right, right. But she is. locked.

She is. And it's a sight to see. Yeah. I think that's also like what I did it with her. I just remember being like so I guess like yeah, you're just kind of like, I guess that's what actors are. But she was like so locked in as this character that I was just like, I don't know how to take it.

Because she was saying crazy stuff, like crazy things. Obviously now I know why. I know like what her character is now. But I just remember me like, what is happening? Like I don't know. I guess I just didn't know. And so it was just a weird thing to like see so locked in. And she's pretty like, not method, but she's pretty lock.

She was like really nice. I saw in the makeup room and stuff and she's like really sweet but then like once you're on there she's like I'm Cassie you know what I mean which is it was cool to watch it was really cool

but that was yeah maybe maybe uh maybe I'll come back next season if there is a season for I know Sam Levinson's been hinting that he wants it to go forward but I just don't know who else when the cast is also on the same page

but you are let me know I can take over anyone's role I can do it I love the ending once in one's one of the ending of last night's episode I was like, Spoilers are coming. Ooh.

Spoilers are coming. Spoiler warning. Can we should do a spoiler or no? Like, do you think she's, spoiler alert? Um, okay, spoiler alert. No, because in the trailer, they showed her with a broken nose, like, Roo with a broken nose at some point. So I don't think she's...

You're such a detective. Dead. I think they wanted that, like, fake out moment, but I do think she's still alive unless, but honestly, I didn't think it happened. They probably have like one cut where she's alive, one cut where she's... While they showed Sidney, Sweeney crying and she didn't.

So it's like, do you think, because this is, I don't know because I don't do spoilers on this show because it's hard for me to even get through the episode. I don't even know the next one. But do you think, they say someone's dying, do you think some people that said Nate too

because he keeps losing all his fingers? I know. At some point, you're going to lose your head. He keeps losing his digits. So I kind of think maybe Nate, I haven't like actually seen any spoilers for this season. Again, I'm also just kind of like along for the ride.

I'm also not super-chatch, except for the girls. I do live for Maddie. Maddie. Oh, Maddie and Jules. So fierce. They're like my babies. Yeah.

They're acting, everything. They're just, Maddie's so cool. Like, yeah, she's so smart too with the little contract switch up. She is said,

though, Alexa Demi has said that Maddie doesn't get a happy ending, though. So. Oh, she has said that? She said that.

Yeah, she got asked when the season like press tour happened, I think on the premiere. She got asked like, oh, were you happy with how Maddie's story ends? and she's like, well, it's euphoria, so

Maddie doesn't get, like no one gets a happy ending. Oh, they all die. That's how the season continues because everyone's just dead. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That would be,

nuclear bomb would be crazy. That would be appropriate. But that would be fallout meeting. It goes into fallout. That's the, that'd be everything. The only people who survive is your character, what's your character's name, Trish? Trish.

We decided it was Trish because it was, what was it was talk intent or something? And I was like, he's like, what do you want your character's name to be? I was like, honestly, Trish is fine. I'm in my pink fashion nova. I'm like, that's fine.

It was my own dress. I was like, yeah, let's do that. Yeah, the Euphoria Cinematic Universe version of Trish. I can see Trish surviving. Who else would survive? I think Chloe Cherry's character. I feel like she would survive just about anything. Yes.

Probably Alamo, I feel like would survive as well. For sure, yeah. I don't think, from the main cast. I think Maddie would actually. I do think Maddie would because she seems like that kind of girl. Yeah. To just get through it. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And if she believes it, if she believes she will survive in nuclear war, she will. Manifester. Yeah, yeah. I think that's it, though. I think. That's it. But who will become a zombie?

Kind of like Walter Goggins. Well, she probably won't want to come back from Zendaya. It's probably over it. It'll be a mutant zombie. I don't know if they can do that anymore after the back of the future, too, but. The IMC. I also love that Cassie, like, when she was getting, auditioning for L.A. Knights, her character was job applicant one. and I'm like, this does feel very Trishian.

Yes. Oh, I'm video podcaster three all the time. Everything I am. Girl with Plastic Surgery. Like, I just love that. Yeah. And she was elated to be cast as drop applicant one. And I was like, this just, I do feel the mirror.

Lightly, loosely. I don't know too much, but yeah, I was giving that. Because that is, I mean, if I was on L.A. nights, I'd be so excited to be anyone. I would love to be, like, a little, like, waitress back there. I'm just, you know, just happy to be there when you're an actress. And the Shakespeare, like, audition. Also, like, kind of Trisha. I kind of loved.

Yeah. I thought she kind of ate. Everyone's like, oh, this was so cringy, but I was like, wait, it's kind of ate. She put her all pussy-up. Yeah, she got serious. You saw her, like, change into a different person. She was locked in. Also, again, to act as Cassie acting, you got to give the girl her tense.

Like, Sydney, Sweeney is really acting. Yeah, it's really big. Right, it's such a different thing because it's not Sini-Sweeney. She could obviously probably eat that up. Yeah. So acting as your character, acting out monologue for a fake show. Insane. Come on.

Come on. Insane. I mean, she's taking it. what can I say? Have they won Emmys? Yafour or not really? Zendaya has won twice. But not the... Oh, wow.

She's so good. She's so good. Yeah, she won for season one, best actress in, I think, drama. And then, again, for season two. She was like, she made history, I think, is the youngest black woman to win the Emmy twice. How old was she?

Oh, twice. Yeah. She was... Oh, my God. When was that? It was a while ago. 2020, I think. Oh, wow.

So that was... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she won it in Zendaya won that. Emmy for lead actress in 2020 at age 24 and at 22 at 26. Wow. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

And so that means she probably filmed the episode like the season like a couple years prior, right? Yeah. Like if she was 20, she probably filmed at 18 or something. Yeah. Right? So she was, wait, so she was 24 when she won the first one. She was probably like 21 or 22. Wow.

Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. She is so good. Like she's such a good actress. Like the last, you know, she's like, oh my God. Like it does make you feel like your four does make you feel so much like that. That's why it's, like, bad for someone like me, because I just feel everything.

I'm just like, oh, my gosh, like, it makes me scared. I don't know. I have to look away at some parts because it is, like, very brutal, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Explicit. Yeah, yeah. And very visceral.

Yes, yeah. It's a lot to watch, but people love it. And now I'm part of it. I know what to go to the Emmys. Can I go on stage if they win as a cast ensemble? Like, I'm there too. I am so curious how that's going to go, like the whole Emmy campaign, because. I feel like they would want those stars at the Emmys

because it is like good buzz. The season is so controversial though, so I don't know. But Zendaya is, even though I feel like she is ready for it to be over, she's not like half-h-h-ha-ha-ha. She's still really acting too. So good. I feel like it's her best performance of Rue yet. So I feel like she would still deserve to be in the race.

So good. I think they're all good. I think like, again, like Jacob Valorty, I don't know much about him, but I feel like he's really good in the role too. I don't know. Again, I didn't watch the first like two seasons. I'm not so good. I feel like they're all so good.

I don't know. I don't like see them. They're also stars and I don't like see them. Like I don't see like Hunter Schaefer or Alexa. I see them like their characters, you know? And I think that's like the real test, especially when you are so famous. Sometimes you just see people as themselves. But I'm happy to be myself.

A little stretch. I just, I will always be myself. I like doing that. But I do like when you can just see the character. I think it's great. But maybe I'm a little biased because they send me a little hoodie. I should have worn my euphoria hoodie today. It was hard.

I guess I could switch halfway through between my Benny Hon and euphoria. Yeah, because they gave me a little euphoria sweatshirt as a commemorative crew. But what did you do this week? Are you moved in now? I thought it would kind of be done, but it's an ever-evolving process. What happened? I thought you were going to be done, done. There's just a lot to do, a lot to do, a lot of things to put away boxes to go through.

And then once you unpack a box and you're stuck with the box, and you got to get rid of that. Yeah. So it's just... What do you do? You tear it down? Yeah, I try to, like, do it myself, like, break it down the boxes and then at my gym is, like, in the parking lot with the Costco, and I go to the gym early.

And it doesn't say you can't throw stuff in the recycling bin. So I bring all my boxes, and then it's a huge recycling bin that is, like, so tall, so that I'm standing over, like, like, throwing it over there. They have you on the CCTV? No, all they all right? I get scared. I do get a little scared because I'm like, am I allowed?

But it doesn't have a sign that says no dumping. So I'm like, I think I can. And if I'm arrested for recycling, that's actually ridiculous. That's something that would happen to me, but like free me if that's the case. I don't know.

That is a good question, actually. I know you can't do it in your neighbor's trash because I did that once at my house I was renting in the Hollywood Hills. I actually technically didn't do it, but I had thrown a party. And this person that I was seeing at the time, like, threw the trash into my neighbor's trash cans. And then the neighbors came and were like,

what the hell are you doing? And I was like, oh, first of all, I didn't do it, but I also, like, didn't know. And he's like, oh, neighbor shouldn't be like that or whatever. And I was like,

okay, so I know you can't throw it like in your neighbor's trash. But like, yeah, a public recycling man. I don't know. That's a crime then. That's whatever. So do you break them down or do you take them as boxes? I break them down first.

Okay. Oh, that's good. To fit into car. Yeah, exactly. Not for, not for Costco's sake. It's for my own, but yeah. I remember I had,

I had a part time, I guess, like person like working with me and like literally the only thing I had that doing was breaking down boxes. It's a lot of work. It was like an eight hour day, every day and he would just like break down boxes. One of that's two or right before I met you. Yes, you were

not the paid employee but I know. No, just say like I can again attest to the amount of boxes needed to be broken down. Did you do that at the studio city house? Oh yeah all the time. That one was crazy. I had a really bad problem there. I would get not kidding like 40 boxes and they would just like stack up like daily.

Don't worry baby. We saw it. Like we saw the You were like vlogging and hauling just about anything. Did I? Oh, my gosh. Yes, we saw the background of your, you couldn't even see the floor. It was just like a box on box on bar. Well, that's what happened. So the main like living room in that house was the dish with Trish podcast studio. I had the pink couch by the time we moved out.

I mean, it's like so embarrassing. I'm not like this anymore. Literally there was no podcast studio. It was just like clothes and boxes stacked all the way to the ceiling. Like I didn't even show that towards the end because it was like so embarrassing. We had to get a house because I was like, oh, we have to like move all this. I think you just probably like moved it with the movers or something. but it was so weird.

I had like a really bad hoarding problem back then. I'm like, at least I'm getting stuff out now when new stuff comes in. But that was so bad. But did you, I guess you broke down the boxes. Yeah. And there just wasn't like, I'd have to call it like trash pickup like three times a week. Like because it was just like, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy.

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marriage material. It is so funny, though, because it is such a 180 now. Because even when I was thinking about, like, what to get you for your birthday, I was like, you are so in your, like, minimalist. Like, I don't want a ton of things, like knickknacks or anything era. So I'm like, okay, like, it has to be something food oriented because like, unless it's a Borkin or the Cartier Panther collection, like, baby, like, I'm not like to get a baller, you know, like.

Well, that too, I was like, you don't know how to get me anything. And I was like, and I really mean it when I say it. But yeah, you don't know what else to get me. I know this. I was like, okay, Panther. I love it. And I was like, this is so random because it's never been on like my vision board or anything. But I was like, I just liked it, which makes it very special.

I did love it. I've seen this. I've seen like people like get it and stuff before and I was like so excited to get it. And it's like when it comes from me, it's so thoughtful. Then he got me a purse for Mother's Day and I was like, well, you always tell me, oh my gosh, do you have enough purse says a Dior box comes in and I was like, what? But I will say, I did a TikTok about it. This is what I actually asked for, like, a month ago from the Dior contact that I had.

And they said it was sold out. So when you saw this, I was like, oh, my God, did you know? And he's like, no, I just saw it. So I actually walked in the mall and I saw, like, I saw it from the window. And I walked again and I saw it again. And then after I got the necklace, I went back in. And the guy that I got it from, he was like, it was like, oh, wow, you're getting both things give. Most people just get one gift for the whole weekend if it's a birthday and Mother's Day in one.

Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah, that's like, yeah. But both people on the boat stores are like, you're a good husband. You are a good husband. That is the, yeah, because that's like very much when people have like birthdays around Christmas. They kind of get like a lumped present, which, by the way, also Mother's Day, I don't think you like ever need to get me a gift for Mother's Day or my birthday, really.

Because we always got me when I was very excited. And then Tana got me these slippers because I always wear slippers for our podcast. So I think we want to wear these in public. Can you wear these in a bed in? You can because they have a back, right? So I feel like that doesn't make a slipper. These are like fond Dutch ones and she got me a cute little book. No, and she got me a really cute, like thoughtful notebook.

And then Oscar, oh, I would show you what Oscar got me, but we already ate it. It was the hit in the house. I mainly knew what it was when I saw it because I saw the chocolate layer on the bottom and the cake. I was like, that's the one you described to us, the Darien makes. You knew right away. I was like, oh, he's like, yeah, I think it's the one that like Darien makes or something. And I was just like, I was napping at that time. I was like napping.

So I was like in and out of it. And I was like, oh, my God, did you get Oscar's cake? I think something, yeah, we're home. And I was like, oh, my God. So did you go down and get it? Is that how it worked? So I went down and had that woman with me. So they helped me get the cake up to the house.

We were eating at a secret liby at first because I was like, ooh, I want to try it. Well, then Elvis, you know, we had both looking up for a nap together. We both were napping. And then she was a little groggy. And then she didn't want to go see because we had a ton of family here. We had like, probably like 30 people here.

And so she didn't want to go into the party room right away. So I was like, ooh, let's go like calmer down and have a little bit of cake. And so, yeah, we had gotten a cake from Holly. Shout out Holly. And then we got cake from Yaya's cheesecake. And so I was like, ooh, let's do a little taste test at this. And so it was so good. Because it was homemade too, right?

Yeah. It was so good. You're also like, like, I know you're going to have so much, so many food options. So I was like, I feel like if we really, you know, do it ourselves and Darien does such a good job. I did try to help him. He does, you know, he does, you know, he does. But I was there in the room. Yes.

I was advised. I was helping the transfer once things were ready. Oh, that's a big deal. No, I know. I always offer like, Moses is cooking because everyone's always like when Tanna comes. I'm like, oh, yeah, he'll cook spaghetti and Dean. You know what I mean? But I feel like it's a group effort.

You know what I mean? We're partners. So it's like a... Have you seen those TikToks where it's like we're both cooking in different ways? And it's like the girl is doing like a TikTok dance. And then her partner is like actually doing the cake. And that's all I was doing a little pinky up. Oh, were you?

Yeah. You should have a little TikTok of that. Thanks, Daryan too. I did. It was so good. Because when it's like homemade too, I always love that. Like anyone who like homemade like chocolate chip cookies or something. No, but that is so true.

When someone like makes something takes time to do something. like their special recipe they make for you or something that means the most even tana she got me these slippers and like a bluntiago bag and i like loved all of it but that like a little notebook of just like handwritten notes and just like a whole journal of it you'll see it on that love line but like those things mean so much to me and then the fact that you like made this cake all my actual birthday was very cool and the delivery i just was like so we ate all of it that night it was so delicious and it was so good and um was it was a flawn on top yeah it's called a chokoflone it's like chocolate cake on the bottom and then flon on top and then dering out of a little uh duche delet

on top the drizzle, yeah. But he's his own toughest critic because he was mad because he was trying to make it drizzle but then the drizzle came out wrong so he was very hard on himself. It was so good,

Dary and it was so good. I know it was like you guys should have half of it for yourself I was surprised the whole thing came because when I make a little something I would do some extra, you know? Oh, I was tempted.

I was like it is my favorite dessert I love when he makes it and he started his job so he's like I'm like can you make two? Like can you make this one? Did he like no. No. No. He only made the one.

Thank you. But yeah. It was so special. And it's my favorite, so I'm glad you liked it. You always come up with stuff. I don't know if it was my birthday or was it this other thing where you brought porthos for one time. Was it Christmas?

No, but that's what I'm saying. Like those kind of things because you have to wait in line for it. It's so far. It's like that kind of thing like it means so much because yeah, I mean I get whatever. You know what I mean? But it's like that stuff because I don't want anything because like you said in minimalist air all it's like that. But when it comes from someone like I like, you know, everything means more.

So but I do love the Cardi and the Dior. Thank you, babe. That was really sweet too. I loved it. And he made me breakfast and everything. And it was just, it was a surprise. I was surprised. I didn't even know when you had the time to go to the mall.

We had to hang them all. Like, where did you even go? So, you know what? It was funny. We went, so I was planning to go there. And then suddenly were like, hey, do you want to go to sugarfish? And I was like, oh, man, I was like about to go that way anyways. So we went to sugarfish.

We went back home and then I went out again. No. Oh, we should go separately. So that way you were already halfway there. No, but then you would know I'm going. I didn't know. That's crazy that you, like, found the time. He was like decorating the table.

The Versace table was cleared off. Wow, that's big. That was crazy because I had like bills. I had a bunch of stuff that like we could because I have an organizer come home to and shout out, Mani. And she always wants to clear off that table with me. But Mo's like, no, everything's there that I know. I know it's place and I can't move anything.

And so it's just been there for a long time. And I came down on my birthday and it was completely cleared off. And I was with roses and gist and my breakfast sandwich. I was like, oh my God. So again, that kind of stuff means the most to me. And I don't need a gift. I don't need a gift. I always say that.

I feel like every, my whole life is a gift. Like I feel like every day is a gift. So it was great. But it was one of my best birthdays ever. It was very fun, low-key. My whole family was there. Moses was amazing. You're so good at hosting people.

I'm so bad at hosting people. But he was, like, hosting everybody and, like, getting all the cakes around every night and stuff. It was really fun. So we had a good time. We had my dad's 70th birthday. We had an Elvis Pursuitter come. That was really fun.

Then Mother's Day, Mistress, and for my mom, I'm going to take her to Benihana tomorrow. And what did you do for Mother's Day? We got brunch at Marmalet Cafe, your favorite. At Calvasses? Yeah. I don't you go there because that's Sugarfish, Hajo Cheeseburger. I know. And I was eyeing Hayo Cheeseburger.

I was telling Dary him, really got to try it. Yeah. It's not a Mother's Day spot. Yeah, it's not a Mother's Day spot. It was also crazy over there. It was so jam-packed. Yeah, it was kind of a nightmare. It was just so busy.

And then my family wanted to see my house, which was overwhelming. I was like, okay. How is that? Rambunctious, let's say that. I tell you all my nephews were there, and they were running amok. And they're sitting on the furniture that no one's allowed to sit on. But I'm like, mm-hmm. You don't say anything?

No. You should put some covers on it, block it off or something. I really didn't think about it until it was happening. I was like, okay. And they're chasing the cats around. It's a lot. It was very overstimulating. Was it like, so it is put together where people can like come see it and.

It's fairly put together. Yeah. There's still like a lot to do. Were they excited? Yeah, yeah. They're very excited. So the whole family came over after. Yeah.

Yeah. So cute. Oh my gosh. I kind of love that. That's so fun when you can like show people like. this is my house and I can't wait to see it Patreon soon I know I still have a lot of preparation though

so I'm glad we're active postpone a week yes yes yes but I really want to see it before I go to England because I need to see it like that's all I've been thinking about I'm like I can't wait to see it for real I love seeing houses I love like Ari too my friend Ari just moved into a house and I was like oh I want to see like I just want to see like everyone's

places because I think you I don't know I just love seeing how people like decorate their space and their spaces and then you get to know the person more it's kind of like room raiders back in the day before they go and I could see your backyard because I see it through the thing I'm like oh it looks so nice and peaceful and the house tour is up though on the Aska Gracie blog channel congrats. I was stressed because I was like I told the brand I'm posting Friday and I was like locked in trying to get that at a dawn.

It was like voiceover. It was rough. What does a voiceover? You're on the phone voiceover yet? I recorded into my phone. Yeah. You do have microphones and stuff though. You have like a streaming system and stuff right?

Not my house. It's on my parents' house is all my streaming stuff. I've been moved over at some point. Are you going to? Yeah. The gag is I'm my theme and my streaming room right now. now was all pink but I've kind of like evolved and moved past that. Ooh.

That's homeowner stuff right there. That's how we were too. I was like, we're gonna do it neutral. We're gonna have white and beige. Like I am kind of giving that these days. Giving an adult. Yeah. I can give you some ideas if you want.

Oh yeah, for minimalism. Yeah. For you. I know, I know. It's so hard. I know. Sometimes I miss a pink, but you can have like one room. Like I love that this room's like my pink room and I have like a little office.

That's my pink room and then just kind of miss it a little bit. But I'm just, it's just, still going to be whimsy but like a little more mature that's kind of the vibe I'm going to try to go for but that's going to come later down the line but um yeah it was fun to like finally post it so now there's like context for like via like you know Instagram story like the little picture versus like what the room actually looks like it granted it was the empty house store but still you get a little bit more of an idea well Patreon you'll get the furnished one yeah the pool yeah the updated yay yeah yeah but um it was funny to show my apartment because I've described it I remember the

first time you asked me like how much do you pay for rent and I was like 1,500 and no one believe me everyone's like, who has to be law and trying to be relatable. I was like, honey, no. Like we don't have a washer and drive. We don't have like a walkway. We don't have a garden. Like we have literally nothing. No garage. I live in a construction site. Like there's a pile of rocks like for no reason

whatsoever. There's holes in like the hallway. There's just like it's kind of nuts. There's cute on the outside though. They had a little like corn cart and stuff there. I love that. That was pre-construction. That was pretty. Yes. Oh, okay, what's construction? Like, kind of put together. But the landlord's son took over.

That's why, like, nepotism. I'm anti-nepotism now. Okay. And then they started construction, but then, like, abandon it. Oh, I didn't know. Not even halfway through, like, a quarter of the way through. So, like, our gate doesn't shut because they, like, built out an extra unit and then never finished it.

Oh, my God. So anyone can, like, just open the door. There's, like, literally, they dumped, like, a whole truck of gravel in the back. But, like, for no reason. Like, I don't know why. they did that and they just left it there's they broke down a wall and then left it there's a big hole like so you can see all the pipes and stuff when you come in and they just like and it's been like that for two years oh my god i think they're just trying to get everyone out of that building

i feel maybe i think i don't they didn't say it was running control but my rent never went up and everyone else has been there for like ever so i'm assuming they don't pay large 1500 in LA is crazy and you weren't like a good like a location like you were kind of central like the malls and like food and stuff yeah It wasn't bad. They probably did a little crime. I was getting a lot of like crime alerts, like SWAT team and stuff quite frequently. Okay.

I was building up. Yeah, it was starting to build up. Yeah. Yeah. But I was also really the show like, no, like I was being serious. Like this was what $1,500 gets you over here. You should have an empty apartment tour. You're moving out one.

I did. Everything kind of like being packed up, which I think added to the like, wow, he's really leveling up because it looks a mess. It did look a mess. It did look a mess. It looked crazy. But. I love an empty. apartment to work when you move out. Like I love showing. Like I remember my beach apartment.

I'm like, oh, it's the last time I'm going to see this apartment in the window. And you just, I showed the view for the first time because then I wanted people to know like the beach location and stuff like that. But it's so fun. Then you can just kind of show your little area that you're in. The guy is I still have to empty it out because I need furniture I didn't take it's still there. So I still. And I paid the rent for like May because I knew it was going to take me a while to like. Oh, wow. Yeah. So I still got to go back. That's amazing. I would always do. I would literally like do the very, last day and have like 24 hours to move.

I'm like, all right, about to hustle and just get everything out of there. I usually would do that too, but I knew I was going to be so stressed when I'm to the house that I'm like, if I do both the same time, I might do something to get me on the news. Should I get myself on Instagram live or TikTok live? Like it would be giving that. So I'm like, let me just like give myself a few weeks to get it together because it is crazy in there. Well, I guess like the weekend like in London, you kind of have that week like

like technically since we're like it's pre-shending some. Yeah. But it is funny. Like you said, because when we go back, when I go back with there, and I'm very much like, thank God Roddy. But he's like, I'm going to miss it. I'm like, okay. Yeah, because it's like your first place together, right?

It was your first. It's like second technically, but the first one we were only in for like eight months. And this was like almost five years. Where were you before? Northridge, but like it was like a luxury building because it was during COVID and everything was cheaper. And it went up. Yeah. Oh, I don't know.

I don't know why I thought this was like your first apartment. But no, you had one before. Yeah. Yeah. When did you move out of your parents' house the first time? Oh, my gosh. The first time. I went back and.

The first time was like 20, maybe 2017. How old were you? God, it must have been like maybe 24, 25. So you stayed through college because they were right next to college. Yeah, stay through college and commuted to school. And then once I got my job, I had a roommate and we lived together for like a year. And then. The Target one?

No. I met her at a Taylor Swift like contest, weirdly. And then she moved to L.A. And I was like, oh, like I'm ready to move into an apartment too. So we lived together for a year. And then I moved back home. No. And then I went to my own apartment, lived by myself in North Hollywood for a year.

Okay. And then moved back home for like until 2020. Why did you move out so much? Because you would always be so close to your parents. Why did you stay with your parents? I think because I would live with them for so long. And then even though the commute wasn't bad from like my parents' house to work, it was like 45 minutes. But it felt like even longer.

Yeah, I wanted to be closer to work. And like also lived by myself for like the first time. you know. Interesting. But then when I lived by myself, I was like, those kind of socks because everything's expensive. I am such an advocate. I think you should live with your parents for as long as you can if you can tolerate them. Both of my parents, I remember just being like at the time. I was just like, I need to get out as soon as possible. You know what I mean? At the time. Like I remember the day I graduate from high school, like out, moved with my dad. But then I was like,

lived with my dad for like two months. I'm like out. Like I was just definitely like, I wanted to be on my own since I was 18. But I do think if you have a good relationship with your parents, they have a good, nice place to stay. It's close to where you want to be. I think you should live with your parents for as long as possible. Yeah, I think I just got older And then I was like, oh, I think because my dad Retired And then so like usually

I would have like a couple hours to myself Before everyone got home from work But then my dad retired so he was around all day I love him, I'm close with him But I was like I had no me too So there's no like place to get away Yeah, that's been That was me too I very much wanted like

Especially like filming YouTube videos I just finally want to like my own space Yeah Because then my mom moved out to California And it was like great to live with her Because again you like save some money And like split the rent But then, yeah, again, I was just like, I can never like, and back then, I didn't even know how to like, uh, put clips together.

So I really had to do everything in one take. But if, like, my sister walks into the room or mom walks the room, I had to start over. And I was like, I would get so frustrating because I didn't know how to edit at all. And I was like, oh my God, now I got to start this like whole 13 minutes all over again. And it was so frustrating. So then I was like, I need to move out again. I really did like living on my own. But like for my kids, I would love for them to live with me forever, honestly, because it's like, you know where they're at.

You're safe. They're cool. You know what I mean? I just, I don't know. if you have like a good relationship, you should say it's a long. A lot of like cultures. I know like Persian culture,

a lot of my Persian friends. They like, they're like my age and they still with their, like until they get married, they like live with their parents. And I think like that's kind of everything. And they cook for them. Yeah.

And yeah. Yeah. I think Tarayami is telling me about her mom too, like how she cooked everything. And I'm like, why would you want to move out? Like just stay there. Yeah.

I think if they had like a house where like each of us had space, I would have stayed a lot longer. Okay. It's a little smaller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so much smaller.

Like when I was looking for a house, I'm like, if they need to, when they get, I mean, they are pretty old. But when they get to a point where, like, they can't live by themselves. I'm like, there's also, like, room at my house. Yeah. So already had it, like, planned out. That's so thoughtful. And there's room where, like, they can be in their own area without, like, annoying me.

Wow. I also think, like, when you're older, I don't know. Maybe it's, like, also because, like, when I'm, like, now that we're in a relationship and stuff like that, like, I don't care. I think, like, back in the day, I was like, I need places to hook up and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. These days are like. Yeah.

parents come or when anyone comes to like stay with us, it's kind of like, well, we don't need to be like going at it all the time, you know what I mean? But like for me, that was so important to me. Like when I was younger, as I'm like, I just want to have so much sex everywhere. It just was weird. I don't know. I was very, like, repressed. I have a conservative dad. Like, it was very weird. Obviously, it ended up why I was taking that turn. Very catty Howard of you, actually. Oh my God. We do have a lot of similarities there. Her apartment, it looks like my first apartment in Hollywood, too. It really did. I was like, that looks like where I used to live actually. So there was a lot of similarities. But,

But yeah, stay with your parents. I want to make our house feel like they never want to leave. You know, I don't think they ever do want to leave. Every time we leave, Mel was like, I'm going to go home. And I was like, we'll be like Chuckie Cheese. Like, can we go home? I was like, what? Okay, girl.

Like, she loves to be home. And I love that. So stay, you know? My sister was my mom. They seem like they're chilling and kicking in stuff. You know what I mean? Like, I think it's kind of, she loves it too. I'm just like, I love this.

So I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Sometimes I think society's like, oh, you still love it their mom. Or like they call people like, oh, they live in their mom's basement. Oh, yeah, I do hate that. There's a whole basement? I'm going to definitely move in there. I'm going to redecorate it. I'm going to do this.

This whole like lower level will just be all Malibu's and Elvis's. They can just go live down here. There was like fridge down there. Everything will move the podcast somewhere else. They have their own like entrance. Yeah, that is tea. Yeah. It could be really cool for them.

But I think about that too. Like parents like that. I'm like, oh, I guess one day they probably will live with us. I don't know how that works when parents get older. What do people do with their older parents when they can't hear themselves. I think usually the options are either they go to like a home like a group home kind of situation. I thought you sent them on a boat. Babe. Is that a reference or is that? I know. I saw it somewhere when I was a kid. I think I saw it

somewhere when I was a kid. I think I just remember it. Well, obviously you're not sending your elderly parents on a boat in Antarctica. I guess now it'd be a cruise. We saw that. Maybe they go on a cruise. Realistical options are what? Like a senior home. Oh, okay. As to living. My mom used to work at one of those. Like some people get like a caretaker to come to like their home, I guess.

Like every day? Yeah, like a living or something like that. Or yeah, they move into one of the kids' homes. I feel like those are the options, right? Sometimes those caretakers, though, I see. I'm on that side of TikTok. Adult people are like mean to the caretakers. But shout them to the caretakers who are like,

that's just, you know, that's just, like, it's kind of crazy on TikTok now that I'm seeing it, because they'll, like, show them, like, getting yelled at by, like, an elderly person for, like, literally doing nothing. They just accuse them of, like, being whatever, like, don't touch me there or stuff. And then the caretaker's like, you know, it's just part of their, you know, sickness, dementia, whatever. And I was like, God, they really are, like, like, angels, really. Because it's like, how would you just go to work every day knowing this person's

going to, like, smack you or something like that. And they're just like, and you're just old and that's fine. And they're just, like, patient. I'm like, I think I would, I don't know. Me applying to. be James Charles content producer. Did we post that? I had to finish posting, editing it today.

I didn't see him posted and I was like, obviously with the recent James Charles. Even more topical than ever. Yeah, I was, oh. For Patreon, you guys, I applied to be James Charles content producer. Pre-pre-Spirate Airlines. Because we thought, because we were kind of like, honestly, this is good.

Like, you should post us at TikTok. Yeah, I was really like, this is kind of good and we'll see what he says. Because we forget how awful James Charles is, like truly the worst person. like a horrible human being. And I don't know if I can say that about anyone else because, you know, there's characters, there's, you know, there's trolling.

There's all this stuff like that. But, like, he's, like, an awful human being disguising, trying to, like, mask as, like, a content creator or something like that. I don't know. Like, no, but he's, like, literally evil. And we, so, but then we forget all this stuff, right? We're doing the thing. And that's why I thought you weren't going to post it.

I'm like, you know what? This is kind of camp. Because obviously, even that part, though, him screaming for, like, the applicants getting the application wrong, being like, you guys. didn't submit a video. I was like, maybe he's being camp. And I was like, oh, no, that's him. That's him just being, like, thinking he's the end-all be-all of this earth and that

people should just, like, bow down to him. And I was just like, but Oscar submitted to be his assistant. And it was a really good. It was a really good video. Yeah, Trisha directed it. It was really good. Yes. And we came up with them.

We did my whole application drafted the email. Did you send? I did not submit the email. Okay. Now I'm like. Maybe not. No, because send it. Because we want to see.

No, we want to see the thing. TikTok that he's gonna make about this application. I'm scared he scares me for the record I can actually say this now with no like oh maybe later he'll change it go I hate James Charles I I don't know why that ticker so much I actually do I actually despise him more than any other creator number one enemy of the show I'll collab with Colleen David shea everybody I'll clap with everybody before James Charles. Like he's awful.

At least these other people try some humanitarian efforts, right? Like, Colleen did a fundraiser for kids for her birthday and David tries to give people money and cash. Yeah, like, you know, they try. There's some inherently evil in them, but they're trying.

They try to balance it out. But James actively does the opposite. He's like, I know I've been caught and admitted to like texting underage boys. I know. I've been awful to people. I know I scream at people. But then like just doubles down,

triples down. And it's just like shows himself to be actually like inhumane. Like just thinks like I don't, he does not deserve his platform. He doesn't deserve any amount of wealth. But it all, I'm not the karma police,

but it doesn't end well. When you are someone who is just so vile and nasty and just thinks that like you shouldn't help your fellow human out. Because I've seen the discourse of people being like, well, you know, he could have just not responded. I, like, want to, like, up that one and be like, no, like, I think that's kind of,

like, his duty to help people once in a while. But not only, like, yes, I guess he could have ignored it, right? Maybe he helps other people in the DMs, whatever, and he just chose to, but to also, like, go publicly, like, bash this person and just be so, like, calling him lazy and being, like, James, you deserve nothing. You deserve nothing. Like, how you got this far is, like, a mind blown to us all. We're all kind of confused by it, but we're like, okay, you deserve nothing.

You deserve nothing of what you have. You live in this beautiful house. You do the bare minimum. You're a nasty person. You're awful. You're also borderline, like, texting these underage boys and like, you're an awful, awful person. So you deserve none. But on top of that, lax, the only talent you have is makeup.

And it's like, are you deserving of this pot? Like, all you do is makeup and you get this beautiful house. You get all these nice things. How are you ever telling someone, like, they're lazy, they don't deserve? like that. All you're doing, you're on live with painted asking for us. You're always, you're giving, you give the bare minimum and people give you so much. You should be giving all your money out to people because it's like you don't deserve any of it. And it's like these people are working hard. You're flying airlines. You're flying all these things like that. It's like

I just, I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. And there's no redemption for him. Because we saw the real James and then with the apology, we saw the real James again. And in the comments doubling down and stuff like that. Like we saw how cruel you are to someone who is like like asking for help, like last resort, like just like looking for a hand. Like, and even when people email me for money, you know, I like donate some time and sometimes people will write back, not often, maybe twice. People are like, ha ha, I didn't need the money. You just gave me a thousand dollars. Whatever. Like at least like you're trying to whatever. Maybe they did need it. Maybe they didn't. Whatever. But it's like help people and help them blindly when you're given so much for doing so little.

and James, you're doing the least. You're doing the least amount. You were going to Coachella, VIP, all this stuff like that, and you're doing the absolute least. You're not contributing to society. You're not helping the internet. You're not inspiring others. You're yelling at your fans.

You're yelling at people. It's not cute. It took all my mind. It's because I had such a good weekend. It was like my birthday. I think Tanna said it yesterday. It's Mother's Day. I'm not going to go into James'clock.

I was having such a good flow. But it actually, I think I even text you back. I'm like, it like consumed me how awful he was. You've done all these sh sh-hings in your past. Obviously, the kids. Kayla Malick situation, obviously the armpit situation with boys on Snapchat. Like, there's so much. But now it's just this person who, like, lost their job.

And you belittling them, mocking them, screaming. Like, that's so insane. You are, like, actually the sh-di-s person ever. Go-fund me, even was like, what's their go-fund me? We want to promote it. Same. Like, honestly, that person, it's great. If there's one thing people can get to rally around is, like, a go-fund-me, right?

Especially if someone sends me a go-fum-me, it looks pretty legit, right? Sometimes I was just PayPal and people money and stuff like that, which I still do. But like, if there's a GoFundMe, it's legit, something like happened to somebody. And it's like, for you to just be like, you're like, insane to me. Everyone rallies around a go for. Everyone wants to help. People who make just an average salary, below average salary, even those people donate because they'll donate $2, $5 because that's what we do as humans. This world sucks. And like humans just want to help each other out. And I think GoFundMe is like such a good example of that. Whenever I see a GoFundMe, whenever it's sent my way, if I see

Oscar posting, whoever it is, if whoever's posting there GoFumMe's right, even if it's like someone we don't know and you just reshare, I always will because it's like, that's what you should do as humans. Aside from karma and all that stuff like that, as just like human beings, you should just want to help people, especially when you are given so much for, and you're an awful person on top of that.

Be lucky brands still want to work with you. Be lucky people want to buy your painted, whatever the fuck, you know what I mean? Like it's like you should be so, because it's going to be all taken away from you. And it can be. James Charles don't ever think. Yes.

Let's run that back. Yes. Yes. Exactly. You can have everything. And people, we've seen it. We've seen people with everything. Get it taken away from them.

And it's, I don't wish that on anyone. But if you're a shi-de-h human, you don't deserve what you have. If you can't help out your basic person. And like everyone said, you could have just ignored it too. But you know what else? You could have just shared it. You could have donated Kylie Jenner share stuff. You know what I mean?

Like just you can just share things. When I try and share when GoFundMe's come along. Because everyone's hurting. Sometimes people just need help with rent. You know what I mean? And that's fine. Like people, it's just, I think he's just, I think he's just absolutely the biggest piece. There's no coming back.

There's no redemption. I wouldn't say that about any other influencer. Truly, there's not one other creator. I'm talking about the David, it's, the Colleen, everyone. I don't think any. I'm not about like, oh, you should take someone away someone's livelihood or whatever. I hope they, whatever, have financial ruin and stuff like that. But it's like when you're such an awful person and you show that behavior, it's like you just are not deserving of

anything you have, like, at all. And you could be the most talented, which he's not, but you could be the most talented person in the world. And you still, like, you know, if you're a bad person, you're still not deserving of all your successes, but you're also just, you're very mid. And your singing sucks. That's it. That's just an out of jab at the end. But I try not to come

for the pettiness of it all. But also, like, you know what I mean? I just, I, I hate him. And I think when we were doing that Patreon, I was kind of once again, you forget, you're kind of like, he's camp. He's. whatever. No, he's a vile, disgusting human. And I'm not talking about his looks or as singing. I'm talking about the insides. And it's, he's wrought into the court. And I wouldn't say that. Truly, it's so crazy when I think about everyone else that I dislike on the internet, the Mr. Beast, whatever.

It's like, no one compares to James Charles truly. I think he is just in a level of his own after this. I was just like, you are disgusting. Because like no other content creator is going to see that email and be like, while someone just lost their jobs. Obviously, spirit airlines out. People lost their jobs and be like, you lazy. Why the fuck did you ask me this? like insane behavior, which means you're just an awful person. Anyways, you can set up what happened if you want. You were in a velocity of reading, and I was like, I love when you really like crack open the book and you read. You really did speed read, James Charles Dickinson. And it was lovely to witness.

I wish I could do like what Jackie did and just go like piece by piece. Or Denisecha Carter also did one too where it kind of like go piece by piece because it actually like fuels like my blood boils when I see him. him physically talking, but I haven't watched it since like Saturday or something. But when it's happening in real time, my blood is boiling. I did want to make a Tati Duma's Hell style video responding to it because it was like, I mean, I'm glad I composed myself because like I wanted to do my old school. I did yell at James Charles back in 2020. Do you remember this?

It's like me in front of like bushes, like screaming at him. Yeah. Do you remember? And then he kind of clapped back at me. He's like, Trisha Paitis, you were the worst. No, James. I think you've now you've officially won the worst title. Maybe back then we could have gone.

to toe, but you have descended into the pits of hell, honestly. Like, you have now been officially, because he went back. Trisha Padas is calling out at the worst part. I don't know what it was that I called him out for. And I think I apologized at the time. So, like, maybe I went too hard on James Charles. I wish I could have gone harder on him back then, honestly. But I knew something.

Something intuitively. People always say I'm a little ahead of my time when calling out creators. I think I was a little ahead of my time. But find that clip with me. I don't know what I was saying. Maybe don't find it. But I was me. I was in the recording studio and I, like, step outside.

And my blood's boiling. And I'm like screaming at my phone at James Charles. And then he like clubs back. And it was like this beef. It was like a weird beef in 2020. I don't know what it was, but it's deserving now. And I'm glad I did it. But he's the worst.

But you can explain what happened, I guess. Because I don't know. People may not know out of context. I know T. I mean, it does feel like at this point, everyone has kind of weighed in on the Spirit Airlines, James Charles controversy. But who are we to miss an opportunity to hate on James Charles?

Like, that's what I get up for in the morning. I do live. And a topic that universally, we can all come together. We can all come together and donate to a GoFundMe. We can all come together and know that James Charles is deserving of every, of every negative thing. Negative thing. Yes. You know what I mean?

And look, not inciting hate it. He's done it himself. You know what I mean? It's like this is my opinion, of course. And it's just like, yeah, I think we can all universally agree. In current day, can we always say this right? Because people love to be like, people love to bring up James Charles from six years ago, four years ago to year. There's always, there's always something to cancel James Charles for in the past six years.

But it's like, he's consistent. and currently doing awful behavior time and time again. Last year was Caleb Malick's boyfriend and being awful. Every year there is something. So then, of course, when you continue to be awful, you bring up the awful stuff that already happened. It's like if you, if James Charles started like helping people, going to do, you know, building houses for people, you know,

just started being a part of something. Even Mr. Bees, right? I think he gets, he does those water buckets for people in Africa. Like, you know what I mean? Like we can be like, well, you're doing something good. You know what I mean? Like maybe you're not a great person, but at least you're doing something. He's done nothing and he's doing the opposite.

So it's like at least if he did like a change, a little bit of change, we'd love to see growth. We'd love to see it. And sometimes when he's silent, we're like, well, you know, he hasn't done anything horrible in six months. Maybe he's changing. Nope. He hasn't. He's actually still being horrible. So I think that's important to remember when it comes to cancel culture, which I do feel like there should only be so many.

Right? There should only be so many. and it's like, yeah, I don't know. I think like every year, maybe get like one or two cancellations, maybe. But then also like past the age of 25, you need to stop the cancellation and then you don't get any more passes. But I think this is one that everyone at university is like, yeah, this is like, because a lot of people like James Charles will never be canceled.

But it's like eventually he's going to be. He's got because he's actually a horrible person. Anyway, sorry. I won't time it anymore. Indeed. Yeah. Well, well, yeah. Yeah.

Sorry. I am so seated for your take on it. But you're so, you're well versed. You're very articulate. Well, that is kind of the T's. So he went viral on TikTok for posting on his spam account. Again, the timing is very odd because we were just reacting to the TikTok on his secondary account, which almost inspired you to make a secondary account on TikTok as well,

asking for a content producer because he, ironically, it was kind of running out of ideas for his own personal socials. Now we know why. I know why. Because clearly he has nothing, no concepts whatsoever. And then he posted his little think piece about a woman who reached out to him for help via email, asking if he could donate to her go-fund me because she just lost her job on Spirit Airlines. And you kind of summarized his TikTok pretty well. My favorite parts of it were, again, him calling her lazy.

and also calling her a bitch repeatedly. I'm like, okay, a man. Again, because James Charles is a man. He is almost a 30-year-old man, repeatedly calling this woman a bitch. Also, so weird because, again, he could have, the worst thing he could have done right is just deleted the email, kept it moving. Weird behavior, because he went on to describe this girl in the original TikTok. He said, you are white, you are pretty, and you are able-bodied. Which then insinuates that he went, look this girl up from the name.

that was on the go fund me also because he was like oh you have never followed me you've never interacted with any of my pages so that is so weird like james charles you obviously everyone kind of knows knows you're a freak but you were also so weird because why would you take so much time to look this woman up see that she doesn't follow you hasn't subscribed or commented on your videos go and went through her photos to see what she looks like check to make sure she was able body like that is so weird that and then to go and make the little tic talk there are so many layers of weird behavior in this TikTok that is like what the hell is going on and also we reacted on patreon to his cocella vlog oh right and in that i mean i it's funny because we talked about in that like

he's getting so egotistical and like into his own head and this is what happened ironically again the anniversary of by sister like everyone was seated for the demise of james charles back in 2019 because he had gotten his head so big and he just thought that he was that girl and nothing could ever happen to him. And that's why everyone was ready for something to happen and for him to get humbled. And that's why everyone was quick to like unfollow, unsubscribe because he was his own wish enemy. And on the anniversary for all this to happen, not lost on me.

Like that is fierce. And also it was just the anniversary of him having to apologize for Kayla Malick, like the same week a year ago. May is not his life. It's also his birthday month, I think. But that is, that is so. I know. That is so interesting.

you say that because, and you're right, you're right. I think that's a very important thing to do when you're like your own worst enemy, right? There's people get canceled for like, you know, tweets they made, jokes they said beefs they've had, but it's constantly him saying all this stuff. There's like no one even like coming for him. Obviously all this stuff with like the boys and stuff like that. And he admitted, by the way, I feel like a lot of people like forget that too. Like he's admitted to all this stuff like that.

Obviously the Kaila Mac with the boyfriend coming out there. Like he is like this like sneaky snake. It's all stuff that he proactively does. It's not like he's like this. victim which he tries to portray himself like actively stuff and I think that's I think that's just important to know it's like he's the one doing it's not like anyone's like trying to come for him it's not like you know a Taylor Frankie Paul where's like oh all the success and all of a sudden it's like let me bring up this moment or you know trying to poke him and get a reaction it's like he's doing

all this stuff like this person was just asking for a thing which by the way takes takes a lot for someone to like set up a go from me it takes a lot of like it humbles you it's all it's like it's like takes a lot of courage to put that out there to ask for help and stuff like that because obviously the Spirit Airlines closing was like a big thing. It's not an easy thing to do. So people already feel maybe embarrassed to already ask for help. And so on top of that, do this. And like you said, go

and actively like seek this person. You see now that it's a real human being that this is like a real thing. Like you're verifying all this stuff like that. And it's like, oh, but because she doesn't subscribe to me or support me, like she doesn't deserve to help. She's a bitch. The bitch, right. I forgot about that use. That also pissed me. I see that's what I'm saying I gotta watch.

Multiple times. Like, and you know what? Like in the past, I think we kind of like, could maybe look at James Charles and be like, well, he probably has a lot of insecurities, right? Maybe, obviously, maybe people weren't nice to him growing up. And it's like, you know, the way he presents himself and stuff like that. So I had a little empathy, right? Like there's some anger inside.

But there is obviously a lot of anger and a lot of issues inside that, like at this point, you are past the age of 25. How old is he? I think he's like 28, right? 28. He is, he's turning 27. He's turning 27. So you're past the age 25.

You're going to be 27. It's like, now you need to like get help for whatever. I'm sure there's issues that plague you. I'm sure there's trauma in your life because all this anger and calling people bitches and like that there's obviously you have issues. You have deep rooted issues, I'm sure. But it's like now it's your time to like get help because you are now being a menace and destructive to like not just the internet but like honestly society. Like the human race really. And it's scary to watch.

And it's like and he does. We talked about that. I don't know if I talked about this with you or maybe with you I think I was talking about. Like he does have like a good like family. family life. You know what I mean? Yeah, because when this happened, I asked her like, he acts like somebody who doesn't have parents. Like, doesn't have any guidance in his life. But they're like so supportive of him. And then she told me like, no, he has parents. He actually has like, he always says it's really supportive and all this stuff like that. So it's like,

because I think you knew like the talk to you situation how he was like thinking of her like a mother. So I think you like knew that. But he does have, he does have parents. And he said they've always been supportive of him. So it's like and he has a brother that was like support. So so he has like family. So this is like there is some like deep root. And also kind of scary. Because, yeah, when you start calling, like, a random person you don't know, like, a bitch constantly and so, like, uh... Like, with hatred. With hatred. It's scary.

It's giving, like, it is giving, like, psychopathic tendencies at least because it's like, why are you being like that? Why are you saying that? And, like, he said it was, like, through his DMs. Like, why are you still at this point going through your DMs like that, too? Like, there's so many layers of, like, weirdness at your... Well, we know why he's going through the DMs. Obviously, we know why. Yeah.

Like, why are you of all people? It was a young man asking for help. He would be flying him over in two minutes. Yeah. Yeah. And like, suddenly you're the expert at shooting your shot via DM. So obviously, you're mad at this girl for shooting her shot on the end? Like, you're the pro at this.

She learned from you. Yes, exactly. So what is your problem? And who cares? Like, if she copied and pays it, I mean, people, it's like. But she didn't. He said in the apologies that he just made that assumption. The whole thing, he just assumed.

No, his apology is worse than. video because in the apology he admits first of all he was like this thing triggered me like so he admits to just reading something like that and getting triggered i'm like okay that's first issue and then he admitted to make him that assumption that she copy pasted because she didn't that was not and then did you see both apology videos no he's probably so i saw i saw the one that got deleted influences are all so out of touch this is so disgusting you don't know how hard it is in the job market these days oh my god give me a fuck freak i am I'm out of touch, first and foremost. Okay, I am never going to be one of those influencers that gets

online and pretends to be poor so I can come across as relatable to my audience. Because he did, okay, so I hadn't seen the deleted one. I did when you had text to me because you had said, okay, I had just seen the third apology video or the second apology video, I guess. Yeah, so you saw because it was he like shirtless in bed. Was that the one you saw? Do you remember? I think so. Because that was the first one, that was the one where he was still like just doubling down. It was definitely the first one because the whole thing. I was like, this is not an apology. This is just you going further about why you acted, the way you acted. Like, this triggered me and I made the assumption, but the thing was even worse.

The triggered one was his apology. Right, right. I'm saying, but I'm saying the apology was worse to me because he is admitted. Yeah, no, that was the second apology is what he's saying. He's saying that's the final apology. There was the first apology that was worse. No, because the second one was bad too. The second one is what I saw.

And I was like, well, this is not an apology. The first one, he's still yelling at everyone. Yeah, he said, I'm standing 10 toes down. Yeah. So he, yeah, so there's so many layers to it again. So after it went viral and it was starting to get coverage, I think like BuzzFeed had wrote, had wrote an article about it and a couple other places like we're picking it up. But it was pre-Jackie I know responding. So that apology was I am standing 10 toes down that I still believe in what I said.

He said people think that I'm out of touch. Yeah, I am at a touch. I will not be one of those influencers that sits here and pretends to be poor. so I can be relatable, that makes me sick. You guys know how much money I have. And he would, that was, that was his apology. And then in the comments of that, uh, that it keeps getting screenshot and shared was like, someone said like, girl, you could have just said sorry.

And then he replied to that, I'm not sorry. And that was the first. That you didn't see that one. That one was deranged. Oh my God. You just saying it just like reciting it like makes me. I thought it was AI. I'm like dead.

I thought it was AI because it was so crazy. Who would see? Once again, James, it can all be taken away from it. You're not going to have to act it one day. Like that's what's so, like your entitlement. You're not willingness to help others. That is insane to just think like because I have it, I can talk however I want. I don't have to apologize. Like everyone is telling you you are dead wrong about this.

That like how like what like and the fact that you like that you said, Stanton knows that it's not about being relatable. When no one's acting you to act for it. They want you to act rich. And you know what? give your money, donate your money. Like that is what part of it does. Like when you get money so easily at that,

it's like that is part of your duty. And that, it can all be taken away. And I don't want anyone to ever forget that. Like I know, so many people I know, it comes, it goes to have that entitlement to think like you, like I will never be in this person's position. You know, I hope you're not. I hope you're not like on TikTok live one day,

like begging people to send you like roses and stuff like that. But it can all be taken away just as quickly. And it actually makes me sick. that you, that, that, that apology, because I saw that one that you said, Moses, the apology. And I remember even thinking that, too, I was like, well, this is like not an apology. Then when I saw that one where he's like, I stand by it and all the comments too that he stands by it. That shows, that shows the person you are. That shows the person you.

And then, yeah, obviously when Jackie clapbacked and like, again, she never does, not even clapback. Just was like, you're dumb ass. Like, you know what I mean? Like the same thing, just telling the truth. And, oh, that, oh, that initial response. Oh, my God. You have to watch it. Because it's also, like, him in bed, like, just like, show.

shirtless, like thinking once again that he is just above everything and everyone. The comment section, you guys can't cancel me. And you know what? I've seen a lot of, like, TikTok creators say, like, yeah, he's kind of uncanceable. Like, no, he's not. No one's uncanceable. It's like, you do enough. You do enough bad shit.

It's like, it comes, it's going to get you. It's going to get you. And it's insane. And we saw the, that's what I'm saying, there's no coming back from this because that first, that response was the real, that's him. That's really him. And even the one that's like, I don't know if it's still up. Is the second apology still up?

I think the second one is still up. So even that is like, yeah, because he was trying to explain. He was trying to have people empathize with them. Well, I get triggered by these things and I'm this and I'm not a bank account. What exactly about poor people triggers you is what I want to know. Yes. The worst part of your job in which you make millions of dollars a year is that sometimes you get DMs from people that you have to go out and search for it, by the way, because you have to go into

not your first inbox, not even your second inbox, the third inbox when you're that big of a creator and really go through and trigger yourself. So like you are responsible for. your own triggers. Exactly. And if the most, if the most stressful and annoying part of your job

is that sometimes strangers will ask you for money, baby, count your blessings because everyone else is going through it way more than you. And again,

it's like, he said in his, the real, I guess, apology video. He's like, I just get upset when people don't have the make it work mentality.

Like, because I'm a hustler and I had to make stuff. Baby, you got lucky at 16 years old. And also your parents were well off. You lived in a lovely home.

Yes. You had a lovely family. Like you weren't out here. Why are you trying to pretend you're out here struggling? You make it work mentality. You got lucky. And you've been making millions since you were a teenager. And you continue to get lucky, by the way, by escaping all these cancellations.

Like luck does run out at some point when you are a person. It all catches up to you. And that's the thing. You got lucky. And what do you mean make it work? The whole airline shutdown was that her? Oh, I'm so sorry. Like, oh, she probably had this job at the airline.

She thought was good. The whole airline shut down. What was the other thing that just, like, shut down and gave like, no one's notice? There was, like, another big company. that just like shut down completely and no one oh was it was it excess Hollywood yeah access Hollywood like it's like these things shut down so quickly everyone loses their jobs they don't know like where to go and then the job market is flooded because you have a hundred people who have the same skill set as you and the there's not as many openings as there are people who need work that it's like that it's like the economy

sucks like to the make it work mentality is crazy she lost her job you have no idea what her situation is like that it doesn't even she's just by by herself trying to make it by she's just trying to find It should be honestly when people send like DMs or anything like that. It should be like an honor and a privilege that you're able to do it. Like I always think like, oh my God, the fact that someone's like asking me, I also know takes a lot of like humility. Even at my show, I remember someone came up to me and was just like, you know, I don't have a money for like my son's bed, stuff like that. And I know I can see it in their face. So like I feel so embarrassed to ask this or whatever like that.

I know how hard it is. I've had to ask for money. I've had to do lots of things for money that I'm not proud of. And it's like it can be an embarrassing thing for people. So like when people already have to ask that, it's like, that's already such a step and then to go ahead and mock it. But if you have the mean, I think, I think if you have the means, a lot of people, like, he could have just ignore it. Whatever. I'm like, if you have the means to like give a couple hundred dollars to someone, it's like, why wouldn't you that?

Especially if you already open the DM, to me, that's like, oh, we've had a connection. It's like, when I had the email, right, the Trish food for you. And there was thousands. But I'm like, okay, if there's one that I opened, of course I'm going to like pay that because of the thousands, I opened this one. It's like, same thing with your DMs. Okay, there must have been a reason you had to open that, right? And maybe it is. Maybe now that girls go fund me.

I don't know. Has she come, she probably hasn't come public. I don't think so. And he said he wanted to reach, again, in the second apology, that he was trying to reach out to her, but he lost the DM and said,

if you see this, please reach out to me again. Girl. No, girl don't. But like reach out. And like, GoFumme, everyone's going to be flooding that gofummy.

And he's a shit. I mean, he checked every aspect of her. If she follows him, DM, all that. Yeah, he has. Even in her search,

she's there. It's not like. That's the thing too. Again, in the Coachella video that we reacted to, like, there was a big moment that we were like, ew, because he bragged about like not tipping the, yeah. So he brags about this kind of behavior. There was a moment where he ordered some nachos or whatever the hell. And he was like, $37. I'm not tipping this.

And he literally kept it in the video, zoomed in on the little machine and said tip zero to these two girls who are making his. At first I'm like, oh, he just got a water bottle. I still thought that was tacky. And like, I guess if he got a water bottle, whatever, it's still kind of tacky because I know damn well you can afford the little tip. And then he got his plate of nachos. A big plate of nachos. And he wouldn't tip. And again, you are a millionaire who literally is ragging about spending $15,000 on your mansion, Airbnb in the Coachella Valley.

And you can't even tip these two girls making your nachos. Which, by the way, they don't control the prices. They don't have a food cart there. They're like making their own naches where they buy their own ingredients for a dollar and are charging you $37. Like, what do you mean? these people are out there, like, that's why they're working. That's why there is a tip there. And also a piece of shit.

If you have the means, I don't care. And I know people have their own issue with it. If there is a tip option and I have the money to. I'm going to tip if it's a roundup to St. Jude. If it's on Domino's there's always roundup to St. Jude, if it's a roundup, do you want to help the kids? Like, you should always be saying yes, but much less you are at Coachella. And these two people are like, they're literally doing a service, right?

I guess the people can argue like, even people make your drinks. I still think it's a service. But like, oh, like, why am I tipping someone if I'm picking up my own food? Well, they put it together for you. And this is Coachella. It's like, you just spent $37 or not just, but you can't give like $5 to these girls. He was flown for free in a private jet to go there. Oh, my God.

And you don't order food without thinking about it ahead of time. When you order food, you think about the tip in that. You think about, okay, how much is it going to cost, how much the team is going to be? You don't order food. And then as an afterthought, you're like, you know what? That was expensive to my taste. I'm not going to tip the person that doesn't decide how much it costs. Yeah.

And also, he's not even thinking about that. If the nachos were $57, he would have paid for him. So it's like, give that extra $20. Because he's not even thinking about that either because he has obviously the money to like do it. He really, like you said, made a point in the video to just show how like that is, you're so right. When I think about that, the fact that you left that in your vlog and your Coachella vlog

where you, like you said, you're bragging about, make it such a good point. You're bringing about the house about everything like how much you. He's like, I pay all my employees so well. It's like these girls you can't tip. And he made the point to show like you said the $0. Yeah, he zoomed in on it. It was like a big talking point. And like he's in the same vlog.

too when he's talking about how much he spent on the Airbnb and he complains about like some of the amenities not working at this $15,000 Airbnb he's like that he has this quote that I saw on TikTok and that's what maybe want to watch a vlog to hate on it it was like I know that like everyone has financial different financial situations and like people don't like when I talk about money but like I paid $15,000 for this Airbnb and like it was freezing cold when I woke up and the heater wasn't working and I'm like girl you are actually a dastrily sick human being And again, this is really him because he brags about this behavior. And ironically, he made a TikTok similar to this Spirit Airlines one a couple months ago

where he talked about how he gets annoyed when people send him GoFundMe's. But I think it kind of flew under the radar because it was like more general. I didn't know. I didn't know either. I saw it come up. Like someone said, this isn't the first time he did that. And they ran this other one back where he complained about getting sent random GoFundMe's and getting asked to donate.

But he didn't like specifically like address it to someone. where this was like kind of a specific person. That's crazy because a go-fum meet is like a step where I get emails and be like, here's my PayPal, here's my Zelle, or whatever like that. So you kind of don't know, but like GoFum-Mees usually have like a story. They have like a picture. Like it kind of is like a thing that they're sharing around to other people because they need it. Right?

Like a go-fund meet is like there's thought into it. There's this. It's never just like a random person asking for money. Like there's usually like a little thought into it. So be annoyed that people are sending you like go-funk. It's one thing for people to be like, send me $50 or whatever. Which again, it's like, whatever. I mean, you can send it or don't.

But it's like a go-fummy is like this thing that's like structured and there's like a there's an actual like story behind it. I don't know. It's just all of that. And you know, he admitted he said he was out of touch in his first apology video. He said it was out of touch and it's like I you'll there'll be something that like just humbles him. And it's obviously finances are like a thing that's obviously his trigger and also something that he just thinks he's owed and entitled to. And it's like something financially I just think is like I don't know that that humbling is going to come harshly. and it's not okay.

And if it's not financially or whatever, it's like there is something that's just universally, there's a way of this humbling people because it's like we're here to help each other. We're here to help people. And it's one thing to like whatever, like spend your money as you want. It's another thing to like also like taking it away from people,

like girls working for tips and stuff like that to be like so disgusting and so arrogant about just being like I'm not even tipping for this. Like, okay, so you're an asshole. You're an awful person. Like, you're right. And we let it. It's so funny.

It does just go under the radar. I think because it's James Charles and people just know, as being just a lunatic and stuff. And I think it's just like people, oh, it's James Charles. But I'm glad this one did because it is, again, it's like it's a humanity thing. There's so many things to cancel James Charles for, but it's like you're kicking someone when they're like down and so many people are in that position. And it's something that nobody should have to go through.

And I also hope James Charles not to go through it. But it's like maybe you have to go through that to like appreciate what you have, which he clearly does not. And I think too just like how hateful it was. Like it was just like the anger. The anger. And like the diction. and the word choice, like the way that he talked about this stranger, he doesn't know we made

a hundred assumptions about and like made up a scenario and a backstory in his head that probably isn't even true. And then it makes you think, wow, so you look at every other person who is like unemployed or struggling. Do you see people who have little signs on the street who are asking for any kind of donations? And you think, ugh, I hate those people. Like, that's what I'm thinking of. I think he literally hates anybody who cannot benefit him.

financially or like culturally or just like in the status quo anyone who cannot benefit him in any way he does not care about you or sexually if you are not a tall lanky white boy boy he does not care about you if you are a woman he does not care about you if you are not by his painted palates yeah hates you yeah and i mean that's the message you showed and then clock it again because the only the time he really did the thoughtful apology, the one he kept up, was after the Jackie Ina, TikTok went viral, where again, it's a woman who's in the same sphere as him. I also not lost to me that she's a black woman and James has like a history of being racist. I mean, at 17, he was making jokes about Africa and not wanting to go to Africa.

So that was kind of his first scandal. So that's also not lost to me. It's a woman who is in the same field who also has a successful business, who broke it down very eloquent. and as someone who could like actually hurt him, you know, like actually affect him. Kind of like, I mean, a similar level to like a Tati, you know, like doesn't have the same relationship, but the same like status of Tati at the time and influence. And then that's when he actually, and in his apology video, I think he was that sparingly, but the one he kept up, like he kind of uses the same verbage that Jackie used.

Exactly. What was it? It was something, oh, God, it was. He talked about how like it was immature. I could have just, it was unnecessary. I was privileged and obnoxious and rude. Right. Yeah.

So he used almost like an exact phrase on hers too. And it was like like, so everyone's like, oh, you clearly watch the Jackie video. Yeah. Yeah. Which it's actually, it was even better that it's coming from Jackie. Because Tati, people could say her feelings were hurt because of the sugar per hair. And she had a personal motive. Yeah.

Like Jackie said, she doesn't comment on things. She kind of like stays in her own lane. And she does it. I follow. I followed her for so long. I like love her. I love her whole aesthetic. I love everything about her.

And yeah, she rarely, rarely does. I mean, I think I can think of maybe one of. occasion where she's like talked about another creator but like again articulately inside like like james like yells and whatever the way she like came across and like has the like you said they're both in the beauty industry not the same people but i think it had so much um like like you said there was he said it earlier where it's like he doesn't care unless you can like kind of go to toe to toe to with him like financially or impactfully. And status quo like she i don't think he cared when it was the the ticotkers who are like

commentary creators with a few thousand followers uh making these tic ticot because literally in the one he deleted he's like, all these TikTokers with their think pieces using clips of me. And I don't care. I'm standing 10 toes down. So, like, he didn't care when it was smaller creators. But then having someone on the same level as a James Charles, again, who is like, doesn't really get involved in this stuff. Because I think even if you did it, he wouldn't care.

Of course. Of course. No. Of course not. Yeah. But Jackie, like, she's very, like, she's just the same stat. Like, I feel like that's kind of what he wants to be with painted because she has her own business, you know.

So, and she's in Sephora. So I think he sees that. And, like, that's what he wants to be profiting. So he's like, oh, now I need a pivot. Yeah. You'll never be, and you never will be. You will never ever be, especially after this, like you will never be that. Is he in support?

No, he's not in anything. He's not in anything. He's not in anything. Right? No, he wasn't morphy, but those doors are closed. Exactly. Those doors are closed. Not even get in a CVS or something like nothing.

Like you are, you are nothing and you will never be. And why? And that's an interesting point because I am shocked because so many, uh, influencers have been able to transition into like, like a power. Patrick stars in like a Sephora and like Jack oh has Jack on Helbin in Sephora no maybe not hurt but anyways but people have transitioned and I'm kind of surprised he's never has because he does have like a massive fan base but again I think that's just again maybe like universally a way of like humbling him because

it's like you'll never be that and especially now you'll never get out of it because people the internet is forever right we've all learned this obviously I know it's awful and it's like yeah you'll never because you are consistently being this this is what everyone's gonna see this is what the headlines are it's never literally the headlines and it's never literally the headlines and And it's recent. It's 2026, right? Who's going to want to work with this?

Nobody in 20206 wants to be around someone like this. And you'll never be, yeah, you'll never be any of the people that you look up to. And you're actually just lowering yourself more and more. Like you are the trash. You are lower than any of the people that think are beneath you. Like you are the trash of the internet. And it's out there forever. It's out there forever.

And yeah, even that second apology was just like not an apology. It's like no one feels bad for you. Like just say. And put a damn shirt on. stand in front of a light. Yes. And sit your up and give a real apology. That's how I know, like, his publicist or whoever was like,

girl, you need to lock in and say something. Because he did it like in his bed laying down. So both apologies, like being shirtless. Like you're, again, a grown man. Yeah. Put a damn shirt on. Give your 10th apology video and like act like you mean it, honey. We don't even care anymore, though, right?

Take action. I mean, we don't care what you say. Just take action. Make up for what you do. Well, just, but he does. Help the person. Like every year, every six months, it's something. And it's like, it's something he does.

In this case, help the person, like, do something, do an action that shows that you think differently about the situation. Yeah, that's like the bare minimum. I mean, again, for James Charles, whatever. But like last year with the Kalem-Ax situation where he was like colluding with her abusive ex-boyfriend, he at least made a donation to women who were victims of DV. Okay. So that was something. So it's, again, we got. called out.

After he got called out, yeah. But that was like his PR spin. I don't know if at this point he just feels like he's uncanceable and like really does not give a fucking because this time, he's really not doing anything, right? Like it's not like he went. Like, yeah, I'm going to make this right and donate X amount to, you know, whoever. This time it was really like, oopsies. Right.

I was caught. The backlash made me rethink. That's what he wrote in the comments. Like, oh, now that it got the backlash, like it made me rethink my stance after I didn't. I said I wasn't sorry. I was like, girl. Be serious. You've been bragging about this behavior.

You think you're better than everybody. You think your wallet's fatter than everybody else is. And you don't give a fuck about anyone. It's not forever. Yeah. Yeah. All of it will catch up to them. It's all bad, bad behavior.

And yeah, thank God someone called him out. Like you said, because that's the only time he'll listen. It's like he thinks that someone's level. I think she's so above him. But I be like he thinks they're like in the same because they're like, you know, whatever. So I think that's the only reason he listened. Otherwise, like you said, he did not care. And he said that.

He said he didn't care. So anyways, you're awful. We've always hated you. So. And now I can say that with conviction. Because, you know, I tried not. I'm like, well, maybe they're growing through something. Maybe to this.

But it's like, no, that's just a horrible person that we seem time and time again. And this is the lowest. I think this is the lowest. I think there's just like not any lower you can go. And it wasn't a troll. And it wasn't any of that because he, like he said, he said, tendos down and he stands by it. So you're the worst. I don't know who the fans are left.

but maybe he just keeps getting like new, like they're like born, you know, like, so like, like the new, the people, like the babies now, then when they're like 13, they find James Charles, like, love him or whatever. And so maybe that's it. Like, yeah, I think that's a part of it. Also on YouTube, he gears his content towards, I would say, like, tweens teens. Um, because it just skews young with like the concepts and everything. Like buying dinner from Facebook marketplace. Like he does these like kind of like trendy, gimmicky things. Um, and it's, it's, it's, it. gives like, I'm not going to say YouTube kids, but it gives like tween vibe. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think that's why like the people who are like, oh, there's nothing wrong with this because James, they're just kind of like going with whatever he says. So if he's saying there's nothing wrong with this, like, oh, yeah, people shouldn't be begging for money.

They should go out and work. I think it's all kids who have no concept of working. Yeah, exactly. Of course. Yeah. And what an awful influence that is to like, you can, you do have that influence over people and like that's what they're learning. I think it's yeah he's awful oh my gosh the whole thing made me sick that was like the worst oh my god yeah

you know what I was having such I had I saw good vibes just this little pit stain of James Charles out there is just like the worst bit anyways well mr. Beast also had a birthday everyone wow there's a lot of birthdays oh there's some good tourists and there's some bad toruses the females are all great I don't know what these men mr. Beast wants his birthday. I think this was May 8th. No, that's my birthday. No, we didn't have the same birthday. Oh, no. Sorry. He's his May 7th. I did think you guys have the same birthday though. Him and Adele have the same birthday. Okay. Yeah, because Pop Bass tweeted on May 7th, Mr. B. Stern's 28. And then they also tweeted for Adele, happy 38th birthday to the iconic Adele. Oh, okay. Oh, we're the same age. I know. Just his same age. One day apart. I love that. The Emmy 16 times Grammy and Oscar winning vocalist is one of the biggest forces in music history with numerous records to her name.

including one of the fastest selling albums of the 21st century. She's one of the best selling and most acclaimed artists of all time. And then Mr. Bees quote tweeted that and said, I find it funny how different these two tweets are, comparing his tweet from pop bass to Adele's. What was his? Mr. Bees turns 28. Wow.

He's comparing himself to everyone else. He has like, world's tiny is violent. Like he always wants, again, always wants to be a victim weirdly. Like you guys, I have no money. You guys have more money in your bank account than me. Why does Adele have a better message than me? I don't know, maybe because Adele's more accomplished than you, honey. Like, what?

Hey, did we learn nothing from the Caleb-Haron tweets? Like, let's stop tweeting. Like, what in the hell? Like, that's so weird. He's weird behavior, too. Him and James Charles should clap. Maybe he's in the new thing. At least Mr. Beast does some good.

You know what I mean? That's good. That's what I'm saying. It balances a little bit, but you're weird. Yeah, because Mr. Beast is also an egomaniac and also has a weird kind of victim complex despite being, like, the most successful YouTuber, like, in history and also, like, the richest. but at least he tries to help.

Yeah, right. He puts some. He has people helping him, at least put money to the right places and stuff. Is there any females that are egomaniacs like this? I'm trying to think like female influencers. Colleen, but. She masks a little better.

She does this guy's a little better. I think we like saw it and then we're like, ooh, okay. Like, at least she mad. But yeah, she is. She's probably, yeah, there as far as like, like, not good inside. She's definitely rotten to the core. But, yeah, maybe, maybe. her but damn not very many i when you've read the adele one i thought it was also could be my bio

i was like wait that sounds like me yeah i was like wait i just copy and paste it you should do it you should copy and paste it we missed it though as may i'll schedule it i'll schedule it for next year okay because maybe you will have the emmy i mean you very well could have the grammy at least even if it's not a song you uh audiobooks are eligible for grammy oh my really we love that Mm-hmm. So you have an inn, if not for a song. Like, I don't know if your K-pop song will get in there, but at least the audiobook might. You know what's so funny is I wasn't thinking about this. Obviously, I just love, like, my kids love K-pop music, like all kinds of K-pop.

Not just like Demon Hunters. They listen to, like, a bunch of girl groups. And I was like, oh, I want to do one for them because it's like catchy and fun or whatever. And then when we watched the hacks, the Deborah Vance episode where she did the Marriacci to get her Grammy, I was kind of like, oh, maybe there's a niche category, not to take away from all these to the real K-Ban's. artist, but maybe there's like a niche, like first time K-pop or something like that. Then I could get the Grammy. I was like, that's kind of smart.

Favit first K-pop. Yeah. They make up one. White person fan favorite K-pop singer. Not speaking Korean Korean singer. Like, you know what I mean? That would be like a category that I could be like sneak in like that would be cool. Because I saw her, I was like, well, it's kind of a smart idea actually.

The Grammy for it. But maybe the audio book might be a better contender. And what was the other ones I have to hit? Um, Oscar winning vocalist. Fastest Selling album of the 21st Century. one of the best selling and most acclaimed artists of all time. The fact that Mr. Beast even was like, what are they going to write about you?

Be lucky, Pop Base even mentioned you. I know, too. Just get a birthday tweet from Pop Base is an honor. Like, take that. I love it. Sit with that, yeah. I think they put my screenshot from before you. Like, what do we think of tonight's episode?

Yes, everyone was using that. I love that. So that's how I know you were the winner of the... The star of it. That was funny. I'm always happy when Pop Base or anything mentions me. I'm like, you know. Like, what happened to people just having some kind of gratitude these days?

Like, no one has any gratitude. I know. It actually makes me scared. Piss him off even more. What's on famous people birthday for Mr. Beast's Day? May 7. Let's see. He's not the first one.

How about Mr. Beast? Remember we looked up and it was always social media people. It's always like TikTokers and stuff. Yeah, he is number one. Oh, okay. One. And Jake Bon Jovi. Oh, Jake Bon Jovi, Emily Bowie Brown's husband's on the list.

He's May 7th? Yeah. Wait. What is... He didn't get a happy birthday from Poppies. That's crazy. Oh my God, wait. This is actually even worse

because Adele's birthday is two days before. Oh. He posted that on his birthday. Adele's tweet. Oh. So I thought they had the same birthday. But he actually screenshot of this from two days before. So he went back, two days back to screenshot Adele's birthday message and compare that to his.

So he could have chosen anyone. He could have chosen anyone because it's everyone's birthday every day. That's, yeah, what? I would have been, oh, yours is the after. I would have said, that would have been so funny if you chose yours. I would have, like, laughed. Did I get a happy birthday in Poppe? Yes, you definitely did.

Did they give me a bio or they just gave me a happy birthday? I think they just gave you. They didn't do as bare minimum as Mr. B. They just said, like, happy birthday to something, Trisha Petus. But, yeah, you did get an adjective in there at least. What's my eighth? Who's number one, me? Is it me?

Or is it? I think Takashi 6-9 was the other one that was an Enrique. Okay. Eglacias, I know. We always kind of went back. And forth. Okay. Let's see.

Oh, no. David Attenborough, Katie B. The pop singer, Takashi 6-9, Brooklyn Sky, and then Trisha Pian. No, I'm falling. I used to be, I was number one at one point. David Attenborough. There's probably more categories, like under York specific categories. No, I swear I was like number one by eighth for a minute.

Damn, I'm really down. You are the number one first name, Trisha. And the first number one from Riverside, California. Okay. And the number two, muckbang creator. Oh, who's number one? That's a good question. Bad Bish Lily.

Oh, I don't even, I thought it would be like Nicocato or something. Okay, shout out Bad Bish Lily. Yeah. Or Jane Muckbang somebody. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, good for her. Damn. What do they do that?

How do they do those ratings? I have no idea. Like, do people vote? Oh, yeah, you can boost, I guess. Okay, all right. I don't know if I'm allowed to go tell you to boost, but if you want to go boost, feel free to do it. I don't know. But we had looked up, like, I think it was like Bono's birthday.

or something and we're like oh surely he'll be the number one he was like number like 20 and all these like random people we've never heard of like TikTok creators were above there I was like so weird so random I know I don't know the rhyme or reason for famous birthdays I'm assuming I can be rigged though but I could write about famous birthdays famous birthdays famous birthdays always tweet into they're always like happy birthday to this person they always like DM me and stuff like that so sweet can DM me back yeah say boom me up yeah give me a little higher who's number one on your day oh great question you're just I always forget July 14th There's a lot of birthdays in like my week. Vinnie Hacker, fellow Euphoria star. That's major. Is he number one?

He's number one. Connor McGregor is number two. I don't know. These are Bloodhound Lil Jeff, Ashley Lou, Maya Rafico, Lonnie Love. Julia Wolf, I do love her, actually. She's a singer. Jane Lynch, she's number 10. Okay, Legends.

Anyone else I know? Jane Lynch is funny. Dan Reynolds from Imagine Dragons. You know him? The lead singer of Imagine Dragons. You like them? I don't even know them. I don't like them, but I know he is hot because any time he takes his shirt off to sing.

Radioactive, radioactive. The gays love it. I never, I know Madden Dragons is like a thing and I like the name. That's how I know the band, but I don't know any of their songs. I don't even know that one. It comes on the mall a lot. Like if yourself in the mall, Imagine Dragons will be playing. It's time to begin, isn't it?

It's not really going on. It's even ruin five a little bit too. Okay, Dorete comes the, yeah, there's a lot. Legends. Yeah. There's a lot on July 14. We love that. We love that.

Yeah. We love a cancer. July 14th. Aquaman was close. He was close to July 14th. July 12, yeah. I do love a July birthday. I feel like at summertime, people aren't really doing much.

You can kind of just chill and hang out. Yeah, T.E. Another TikToker who had controversy was Jake Shane, which again, in comparison to, like, everything else that was going on to, like, very, like, non-imprisonable. important. But Jake Shane got backlash for talking for his interview with Casey Musgraves where he asked the meaning behind one of the lyrics of her songs. And he said that his favorite lyric from her song Golden Hour, from Slow Burn from the album Golden Hour, was in Tennessee, the sun's going on, but in Beijing, they're heading out to work. And he was like asking her what that meant. He's like, it's my favorite lyric. Me and my friend are always debating about what this lyric means. Like, what does it mean? And she goes like, what do you mean? It just means that the time zones exist. Like, here the sun is going down, but over there, the sun's coming up.

Like, they're going to work. And he was like, right, right. And people were, like, really upset by this. I mean, yeah, it was a dumb question, but like, I don't think it was that big of an offense. Right. No, because I have definitely, like, asked them questions. And sometimes, like, but, but I think, I think what, yeah, people's reactions were crazy. I think the reactions were crazy, obviously, in comparison like a James Charles situation.

But I guess what, like, got me. because I'll ask dumb questions of something. Like if someone's talking about something I know about, and I'm trying to figure it out and then you like say something dumb. But he said this was like his favorite lyric. Yeah, I think he specifically says my favorite lyric, my friend and I debate it all the time. Maybe the friend is really the one that was in the wrong care.

Like maybe Jake Neal was like not that deep, but the friend was like insisting that no, there has to be like some meaning to this. So maybe it's the friend's fault. We might have to throw the, if I was Jake Shane, I would get on TikTok and I would take, I would be like, here's my friend who really was the dumb one. And it couldn't comprehend what Casey Musgraves' lyric.

I would literally grab her up and be like, this is the one you guys. Because I want to know his interpretation of that line. Like, what were you debating? What was the debate? That's what, not the T. Like, how else is there to like analyze the lyric? Okay, you be Jake Shane and I'll be his friend and we'll like talk. We'll say this is our favorite.

Like, okay, so we're like, damn, you know that, you know that song by Casey Musgraves? You know, the song. Slow burn. Yes. Yes. Like, do you have a favorite line from there? I would say, um, the sun's going down. But in Beijing, they're just going to, they're going to,

Damn, that's my favorite line too. I want to know why it's your favorite because that's my favorite too. But I'm surprised it's your favorite because it has a special meaning to me. What's it mean to you? To me, as someone who loves Beijing and like I know they work really hard over there and I'm someone who like I really appreciate the make it work mentality. Like I don't want no lazy bitches. Like I love that in Beijing.

They're actually going to work and working hard for their money. Like that's what I love to see. Oh, okay. Wait, see the lyric one more. Oh, yeah. Mine is just like, you know, it's that sunset hour. That's when my girl goes down on me.

And then, but when I'm in Beijing, I get no head. Oh. But that's crazy. We have different interpretations of it. We should ask Casey musgraves if you ever meet her what it means. See which one she's going with. Because, like, to me, it's like, what do you mean that's your favorite lyric and you, I don't know. Like, again, I'm only going to talk about this because this was like hot topic.

I mean, Jimmy Wetzel sent it on a Saturday. He's like, that's how you know. Yeah. And I was napping too. And I woke up and I see Moses' response. And if Moses responds, maybe there's something happening. I didn't know that was happening. I was like, oh.

I loved it though. That's like, okay, this is a hot topic. Yeah. So that's the only reason I'm coming because honestly I don't think like they deserves like a backlash. It's like it wasn't that bad. I think in general people are just don't love like influencers as host, as we said, like interviewers and stuff like that. Especially Jake Shane is getting all these really good quality guests.

And I feel like people. don't think it's fair, which yeah, is it the best interview? No, he's not best interview. But he gets views and people like him. So I make sense why these big celebrities want to go on there. In my mind, I think one or two things could happen. I think one, someone like wrote that for him. And he kind of was like, oh, this is my favorite.

Like maybe someone wrote it for him. And this was like. So specific though. Like I don't like even as like a producer, I would never think to ask her about this tiny like specific lyric from not even her. new song. Like it's a her single from like four years ago. Maybe longer like five years ago. When they golden hour even come out? Because she won a Grammy for it when I was at ET the first time. Oh, okay. So yeah, I don't know. I feel like maybe someone said him up then. I don't know. Like what?

That's so random. I don't think he listens to Casey Musk graves. I don't think he's at stage coach. You know what I mean? Like, 2018 is when this album came out. Yeah. So it was Jake Shane 12? Like, what do you mean? Like that's what I'm saying. I feel like someone may be like maybe like maybe they wanted to know maybe they were like, you know how my aunt's like, next time you see Donnie Osmond, she's like, ask him what time he was born, because we're born on the same day and I want to know who's older and I'm like, okay, that's a random thing. So maybe someone like

I had told him like ask him this thing. Oh my God. That's the only thing I can think up or I was trying to think like maybe he was trying to do like another viral moment like the Ed Shearren thing. That actually makes way more sense. Hopefully. Yeah, like a little like acting dumb kind of thing. Because I've acted dumb of course. Like you know because you know it could get it's cute

see, but maybe if we don't find Jake Shane doing it as cutie, like they did for that year and it worked. I think especially now he's getting ripped. Like Jake Shane, you're losing your clown privilege, baby. Yes. Mama, I think you're lifting up the weights. You're going too hard. You're going too hard at the aloe gym baby, and you're losing that clown,

jester privilege. So you've got to pick one. If you're going to pick up the weights, you've got to drop the jester privilege. They don't go hand in hand. That's so real. It's real. Oh my God. You're right.

Now you're going to, yeah, you're going to have to do a new stick now that you're going to have to do a new schick. Because if you want to be cutesy, you're going to have to keep eating those donuts, honey. But if you, like, want to be ripped, you're going to have to figure something else out. I think that's so it. I think you're so right. That, like, the glow-up is too real because he's shirtless now and stuff. That could be, yeah, because, like, the dumbness is cute if you're like, if you're, like, chubby or something like that.

Or, like, you know, but, like, if you're, like, if you're getting style, head to toe, you're hanging out with Kyogurber. Yeah. And that's a fun life. Like, that's a key. But that's a lane you're going to pick. Yeah. You got to start leveling up, get a little smarter with those questions. you can't be cutesy anymore.

It won't fly anymore. Wow. I'm a quirky like therapist guy who like, you know. That's so real. That's so real. So I think we correct the code on what happened there, hopefully. It is great how Jake Shane makes a statement. Keeps a moment.

I wish he'd be a little bit like Tanna where they just have that phone. Like let me just say it right now what I'm feeling because I do love one of those moments. But he keeps him moving. He really, yeah. He's the OG brand safe, I think. Yeah, you're right. He's never going to step outside that ball. So right.

You're so right. Well, maybe James Charles needs to take a lesson and to just stop talking. He went the full, like, opposite direction. Like running in the screaming, complaining, ignorant direction. I really don't know why.

I think that's just what he is and like what he likes to do. Because really there's no sense, a cool explanation for that rebrand of like being the screaming, complaining, ignorant guy. I think he does nothing. Like you said he was putting out looking for applicants to help him.

Literally he like. With idea. As Oscar applied, it was like, give me three content ideas. So like Oscar had to like come up with like ideas for him. And like you said, he said he went through some of the submissions. He said there was like 100 and like only 17. I'm going through them. So maybe someone gave him this idea. Maybe like maybe you should try this. Because like honestly I think he has no ideas. And I think that's what's happening with this. Because even like the whole painted. I mean, no one's gagged for that like they were for his. What was the Morphe one you keep talking about? The artistry palette. I remember for the Beck Alley. Like I was

going to go out the artistry palette. I kept thinking about the painted. I'm like painted. Like, no, but this was the original, whatever. Yes, the 2019. Yeah. Nobody was, I mean, people, I guess were gay for that, but I don't anyone see it for painted like that. No one's, like, recreating that moment. Like, we love painted.

Like, you know, no one's organically using it. Like, I see people using the one size. I see people organically using stuff. I never once seen my makeup artist. Like, pull out a painted palette. I remember when he was promoting painted. There was, he knows, like, makeup artist. So I think he got Beyonce's makeup artist to use it on a, I think, for Renaissance or something

for that album, like a shoot or whatever. But it's because, like, he had, like, it's not. not because Beyonce was gagged. Oh, right. He knows her makeup artist or something. So there's stuff like that that he would like be, again, very brakadocious about. Again, if you're a celebrity MUA, of course, he's going to be up your ass.

Yes, of course. Yeah, but again, that's the only time. Well, even us for a minute, he was in our DM. He was like, I need to have a phone call. T. It's like, I think you need to put yourself. Yes. Let's go there.

Yeah. Like, even podcasts, you think about that, even podcast. I'm like, this is really truly no shade door to see if you have his ass, but that was the only one he could go on. And no one cared. Do you remember? We looked at the views. It was like 30,000.

And I think, I think people, because I remember he would like preface us, but like, I don't even want to come on the pockets. I just want to have a conversation with you. And I was just like, no, thank you. And you were not invited. We made that clear. Even pre-Spirit Airlines video, we made that clear that you were not going to be invited on this podcast. So we were ahead of it, too. I'm like, this is a gag.

This is a joke. This is for Patreon. And now I don't even feel bad for it because you're so weird. Because it was just so weird that he was screaming at people. And I was like, but I would love, I would love you to still submit it. See what he says. I know. I went some,

like, not because of James Charles, I had fun doing our little submission video because it was kind of like a spoof. Our inspiration, again, was L. Woods applying for Harvard. I love that.

Per Harvard submission video. Yeah. We were giving that. We were. You really nailed it and you locked in. You were doing like one takes. Like, whenever I do TikToks like that,

but I require a lot. Like, I do like at least like five or six to make sure I got it. Like, I got it. I was like, well, damn, you were on it.

I think the stakes are very low for this James Charles but you nailed it each time. It was great. I thought it was good. I was really excited about how it turned out. And then I saw all this happen. I'm like, maybe we're not posting it.

Like maybe bad timing. I don't see. I just have to put a little disclaimer in the description. This is pre-spirit airlines. And it's obviously a joke just like James Charles. Entertainment purposes only. Yeah. Yeah.

And we didn't make fun of him the whole time too. Yeah, yeah. It definitely wasn't. Yeah. Serious. That does help. Yeah. He's a must.

I don't know who's going to apply for him. He's like, didn't he get in trouble? Like, didn't an assistant try to, like, sue him or something? Maybe not sue him, but didn't they try to expose him? there was like a James Charles assistant scandal somewhere. I mean, I would believe it at this rate. Like, just see if anything pops up. Oh, 2021.

James Charles ex-employee speaks out about lawsuit claiming he didn't pay overtime and asked her to shave his butt. What? Don't you remember that? No. This was back in 2021. I swear, okay, I was like, wait, I kind of remember this. And I was-

May 11. May he needs to just shut it down. Oh, my God. to just... Quarantine. Yes. Cut the Wi-Fi. Like, you need to disconnect your router.

Like, turn off the phone and net. Like, this is actually scary. Whoa. This is scary. To the day, we're doing this, May 11. Oh, my God. Nate 11, Cat 10 barge was on his... My God, it was Cat.

Always at the scene of the crime. Oh, my God. 21-year-old multimillionaire has been engulfed in the fallout from an underage sexing scandal. Temporary losing monotusing. on YouTube, severing ties with Morphy, now James Charles, former producer and creative director Kelly Rockland. Oh my God, that's the role I was going to apply for. Wow.

Is meeting out about her lawsuit against him, which alleges wrongful termination, disability discrimination, failure to provide reasonable accommodation, and failure to pay minimum wage for overtime hours worked. And he said he pays his employees generously. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay.

This is why he's going to TikTok for applicants. He's like, nobody, nobody's going to take a serious. wage, yeah. Y'all don't know your rights as a worker. No, for real. Like, what? That is crazy. I wonder what happened with it.

I wonder if they settled or what? I know. But to even bring up a lawsuit, again, it's very serious because it's like, it costs money. Like, unless you're going to win, no one's going to really do that unless there's, like,

legitimate, like, things to cite. That is why. I cannot believe again in May, like the same week. Crazy. Every May, the same week since 2019 is something. Like, that is nuts. Quarantine.

quarantine yourself. Oh my God. She also claims that Charles once asked for help with shaving his butt ahead of wearing a revealing outfit for Coachella. Oh, my God. Something Rockland says made her feel extremely uncomfortable. Oh, my God. She was later given a raise to $6,000,

but says she'd regularly work 80 hours a week and that the new wage didn't account for her additional hours. Oh, my, I mean, jaw hurts like actually from, like, dropping, like, what? He was making monstrous money 18 years old, and I literally couldn't even. afford to pay my full rent. I shared a room with a friend in downtown L.A. Everything I was doing with him, I was just losing financial game. Like, I've got to keep working. I've got to keep working. This is all making sense. This is all making sense. He wants to work people to the bone for less

the minimum ways. That's crazy. Wow. That is nuts. Yeah, I was like, wait, I kind of remember this. And I remember me like, wow, that's like so crazy. For the record, James has denied the allegations and said they were absolutely ridiculous, absurd. untrue defamatory. I wonder what like the resolution was. I don't think someone's going to bring a lawsuit with no merit behind it. I think is the shaving the butt falls to? Or was she comfortable with it?

Is he claiming? Like what is like what's the lies? Like what's specifically? I am so curious. If you ask someone to shave your butt that's like not your partner, you're a creep. Like what? That is crazy. Oh my gosh.

I'm so curious about how that turned down. He scares me. How does I totally. fly under my radar. I know. I remember it like just like in my brain somewhere. I'm like, yeah. That's major.

I'm saying if someone really did, we need swoop back. We need a five hour video on James Tarles because it's just like people forget. People don't know. There's just like, but it's so much in such a little amount of time. And it's like. I know it's crazy. I know Marcos from TikTok previously be better. He posted a TikTok of like new evidence of like.

Yeah, the text messages. Yes, new DMs. I guess maybe even Patreon will actually go into it because it is like right now. As of right now, it's like, I don't know. Who knows the validity? But it seems real because he has like a recording of it. He's pretty good. Marcos is pretty good at getting like real.

Is that his rebrand? I don't know. He has a new account. That's his name. Yeah. But Be Better has an account still. Yeah, the Be Better account is still up, but he just hasn't posted to it. Like the Alex Earle one was also on the Marcos account, if that makes sense.

That's what I'm saying. I feel like he kind of gets, he's kind of detailed. He's like a investigator. And I know he went back and forth with James last May over like the Kalim Alec stuff. Oh my God. But yeah, he has these alleged DMs of a 16 year old with James Charles. And in the screenshots that he showed, which not even screenshots, they're like photos of the DMs that the victim, alleged victim, I guess, gave to him. The boy says, I'm 16 years old, by the way, like I'm sorry.

And then James sends like a. the emoji, like the skull emoji, be like, that's still illegal though. And then they just start sending photos back and forth and you just see like open the photo, open photo, open photo, like you don't see what the photos are. But the alleged victim says that they were like inappropriate photos. But I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's like I really don't wish it downpull on anyone, but it's just like you're, he's his own as as it catches up to you.

If you're like, and you just don't learn like, oh my God. At least like some people like, Christa Lee or like at least they like stop once you get caught for the most part. It's like you've got to like learn. Like what do you mean? Like you know now how this works and you continue to do it. Like it is a sickness. I do think it's a sickness. But also it's like he needs help where he needs to be like locked away or something like that.

Because there are sick individuals out there. And it's like you just either need to get help or you need to be like put away because like that's insane. Because I don't think he can like help himself because you know what's going to happen. You know how this goes. Any other person who gets caught knows not to keep doing it. Like it's so crazy. I guess these screenshots are from 2021 when I guess he was demonetized. That's when kind of everything blew up for him too.

Right. after by sister. But again, if you know that you have this stuff like in your history, why would you at least, why wouldn't you at least cosplay as like a nice person if you know that all this stuff is there and can be brought up against you anytime? Like why do you like, again, I think just the ego, he thinks he's like untouchable at this point because he's crazy. I feel like he gets away with so much and he laughs maniacally.

And I feel like he's that person. Especially after last year with Kayla. Like I really thought because Kayla was such a big creator. that like maybe she's the one that will actually like be his downfall again because I do think that's what it takes like a talk to you Shane you know but I think he's gotten away with so much that he just yeah he's just but it won't be that way forever hate it hate him I know I was I was like seeing it because it was all my whole timeline and I was like I'm not letting this I'm not gonna like chime in on TikTok I'm like I got a podcast for that you know what I mean But, alas, here we are. Yep, James Charles Dickinson. If you have no haters, I'm dead.

So. I think officially enemy number. Yeah, he was a nuisance number one for sure, but he got upgraded. Right. Even when we reacted to those videos, we're like, oh, people that annoy. What do we tell? Like people that annoyous. Newsances.

Yeah. And I was like, oh, no, you're firmly an enemy. Firmly. Any last thoughts on that, Moses? Cheese pool Start out strong with that one There's a lot of good Moses mentality moments Yeah there was

That are going to be popping There's the cheese pool There's the sending them out on the boats The old people I was someone like is that Like is that his joke or like he thinks that Like that's why I was trying to figure out I was trying to figure out

I don't want to like disrespect a culture If that's what people do I was like okay I was like maybe people do that I don't know Okay maybe I don't know was a joke for the record. I was just trying to figure out where I had that image in my head from.

I had that image of like. Okay. Maybe people do that. I don't know because also like. I know in Viking culture they would when they passed away. Oh. Yeah. So maybe that's what you saw.

But maybe I don't know. It could be more. I don't know. I think it's from a movie or something. Okay. So you saw it. There was a thing. Probably.

Okay. Well, you guys, let's end. happy notes okay you look so cute I like your little hat today too I didn't even comment on your outfit earlier there was too much going on is that a cinema role what's on there no it's Miffie who's Miffy? She's this little bunny character

from Animal Crossing No I don't know where she's from actually It's like one of those like mascot characters Like you know a Hello Kitty there's like a Miffy It was giving hella kitty I thought it was cinema role from Hilo Kitty world That's why I thought it was similar vibe But yeah she's just Miffy I like it just Miffy

We should do a challenge me just wanted to go to the mall because I think of the mall near you. Well, I don't know if it's near you anymore. You moved, but there's like a Hello Kitty store in that mall. Have you been to it? Of course. Oh, are you a Sanrio person? I do love a Sanrio, yeah.

Ooh, I want to do like a mall challenge. I don't know. We'll have to look one off if there's one online where it's like. Just making it up. Yeah. Be like getting something. Doing the viral mall challenge, you guys, when we just buy stuff that we like at the mall.

The viral challenge is taking over TikTok. Just buy each other gifts. Okay, we're going to find one. And we're going to find a mall challenge. like things we would have liked at the age of like 13 like going to like Hollister or something I don't know we're gonna look it up I'm gonna find it because I haven't been to the mall in so long

because also in that mall they have an Antianns and I've been thinking about Antianns. I love Anteans. I got Wetzel's pretz, like delivered the other day to my house shout out Jimmy Wetzel. Someone said that in my TikTok I was eating Wetzel's pretz and everyone's like I think of Jimmy and was like me too and I think of Jimmy's pretzel.

Maybe we could all do a little more adventure. Oh my God, Jimmy's pretzels for the first time. Watses Pretel's and shout out Jimmy and Dallas for Taurus boys too that have birthday. Oh yes, like positive. Yeah, we were giving some bad raps, but Joey Grecefa, Dallas, Jimmy, my dad. Gaze and girls. Oh, you're dad.

Yeah. Yeah. I know. I told my dad we had the same birthday dinner that we had last year. And I was like, oh, dad, we had this last year. Like, I know you weren't there. And Moses literally was like, he was sitting next to Oscar. Yeah.

And dad's like, oh, glad I was memorable. But that's so random. It was all in my. We were talking about Pope Francis the whole time. I did not know. I didn't, like, my dad was there with all my friends. It was like my touring friends. And my podcast friends was like my dad was just random.

there. It was very random. That's when he was campaigning for baby Pope Francis. Oh, it would have been, okay. Now that makes sense. I was like, oh, my God, I forgot. Anyway, shout out to all the good tourists is out there. May is a great magical month if you're a good person. If you believe and you manifest good things for other people and May can be a really magical month. Check out Oscar at Oscar Gracie blogs.

Sure. Is that it or no. Am I saying? It's just my name, but yeah. But I think if you type that in the search, it'll come up. Oscar Gracie vlog. Check out my behind. Benihana behind the scenes at Blondeau for a Mjara.

Just check out Benihana today. Go have a meal try the Trish Trio. Ah God, it's flay, chicken, and shrimp with veggie fried rice. Oh my God, it's so good. Leftovers for days. Check out Moses at Moses cooking videos. Are you gonna get a cooking video in this week? I don't know if we're gonna have time.

First of all, we did the Bolognais. So. Oh, we didn't mention. Okay, well, yeah, we mentioned at the beginning. Go see that, that's fine. That was a great one. That was delicious. Go see the Bolognaise.

You can finally make it at home. Yummy. Many people have. I get pictures and all that. And yeah. Show the bag. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

Sorry. Oh, my gosh. I just blocked it with the Benihana. There's the bag that I got for Mother's Day. It's gorgeous. It's beautiful. This was the Mother's Day one, he said, and then this was my birthday one,

which is very, very sweet that you did. You really did make my birthday so special. It was very surprising. Everyone did. So many people sent flowers and cakes. It was the best birthday. We just chilled at the house, and it was wonderful. Couldn't have been better.

And, yeah, all right. We'll see you guys at Benihana soon. And we'll see you guys next week. Go to the Patreon for extended podcasts and bonus to videos. Just change Charles madness really over there. And we keep it behind there because we're giving him no more. It's not good attention over there either. Honestly, there's no attention.

That's good coming from us. No, if anything we're mean or I'll speak for myself. I'm definitely meaner over there. Well, I know. Today I just kind of came out. But I tried to have a little empathy that's gone out the window. But we love you guys. Thanks for watching.

Have an amazing week. And we'll see you on Thursday. Bye.