Just Trish - Exposing Colleen Ballinger's Manipulation & Trisha's Recent Drama

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

Trish is back with her hot takes after a wild week of drama–from an unexpected apology tour to the never-ending twists and turns of Colleen Ballinger's toxic gossip train. Listen as Trisha explains why she believes JoJo Siwa was allegedly manipulated to stand up for Colleen. Plus, Trish reacts to SWOOP's shocking exclusive interview with Colleen's ex-husband, Joshua David Evans.  Go to morelabs.com and use code TRISH for 25% off your first order of Morning Recovery Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Just Trish 15 Love. Yay! Get it? Wait, I don't think you see. I was talking to you, Ariana, like, yeah, oh wow, love, okay, get it, smash, yeah. I love it. I am wearing Sweetener Foundation. My foundation's not here today, but it's over there. I'm wearing Sweetener Foundation by Rem Beauty. And Ariana's last name is not Rem. And Selena Gomez did not name her cosmetic line after her rare disease. SkinCleaner Foundation by Rem Beauty. And Ariana's last name is not Rem. And Selena Gomez did not name her cosmetic line after her rare disease. But we love it all the same. And no, she's not a meme.

Selena Gomez is my queen. I dress up as Ariana more because I think I look more like Ariana. But I love Selena Gomez so much. Anyways, guys, it's just Trish. But also just Trish and Oscar and Moses. Cheers. Living for the look. Thank you.

Do I look like Ariana? Do I look like Ariana? Did you have to customize the hat or did it actually fit your head? It actually fit my head. Oh, it did work. And it's a children's one. And I was like shook that this worked. And I actually ordered the exact shoes she wore and a gray top.

It just hasn't come yet. I got it from Bergdorf Goodman and I sped order. I rushed it, but it didn't come yet. So anyways, I was living for it. I just live for an Ariana moment. Between you manifesting Ariana, me manifesting Olivia Rodrigo, I honestly really am starting to believe in us. Oh my God. What if they both come on?

I know. I honestly, I don't know if I'm just like DeLulu as well. Like maybe. Gotta be DeLulu. You have to. You gotta believe. I mean, if we can get Donny Osmond. Anything can happen.

That was my number one done. And we can get anyone yeah and you get it so early too oh i know like six seven twelve episode i don't know episode one sorry babe go ahead i feel like ariana with this thank you babe okay yeah all right next topic yeah yeah i would see your olivia rodrigo impression how does she talk i don't know she just talks like normal like kind of like i mean i feel like she kind of talks like me where she's kind of valley girl and yeah she's kind of valley girl like me but like okay let's get the vampire but she's like chill let's go with the vampires yeah i've never heard her talk i know her songs but you just wanted to

be olivia coded today i wanted to be olivia coded i'm like i'm gonna go all the way because i know i'm always a little too embarrassed to wear my olivia rodrigo merch because i feel like i'm not mean about steve buscemi like hello fellow kids yes um the bucket hat especially the bucket hat is so y2k though i love it yeah it's brutal out here yeah i feel like i ran for real because i actually can't see so i'm always like squinting but i actually can't like i can't see anything so I'm always like squinting. But I actually can't. Like I can't see anything. So I was like, it's brutal. It's brutal out here. Okay.

I love it. It's very YGK with the butterfly too. That's just her vibe. I love it. So she's like my, I started wearing sweater vests because of Olivia Rodrigo too. No way. She wears sweater vests? I'm going to credit her, controversial, but I'm going to credit Olivia Rodrigo for bringing back the sweater vest.

Who else would be? Who else wears them? I honestly don't. People are going to say it wasn't her, but I'm going to credit her. Yeah, what's the stamp? Olivia, if you want to come on Just Trish. Oh, my God. We would love to have you.

I would love to. It's a safe space. Yes. I feel like any guest that comes on, like, I usually know them. All the ones we've had, I, like, know them very well. But, like, I do do a deep dive into people before they come on. Like, even people I know well, like Christine Quinn or something. I, like, submerge myself for, like, eight hours the night before into just finding every single information interview about them.

And I just like to ask questions that like haven't been asked or things like I want to elaborate on. And I feel like Olivia Rodrigo, I don't know, like I literally know nothing about her, but she does interviews. Yeah. Like very rarely now. She used to follow me on Twitter. We used to, she used to be my oomphie.

And she, what's oomphie? What's a oomphie? What? You are Y2K. You are, no no you're not y2k you are gen z you are one of my followers is what it stands for yeah but like to make it cuter it's like one of my umphies umphie love oh my god what happened she unfollowed you she unfollowed like once she got she popped off she got too famous and then she did like a unfollow she follows zero people now she and so i was a casualty of the mass olivia rodrigo unfollow yeah why did she follow you in the first place did you tag her

or something no i am i just followed her and then she followed me back what did she follow me on my phone maybe she follows me zero people now but maybe she did at one point so that's why yeah because she got like too big, too fast. And then everyone would like comment. You know when you like unfollow someone and it becomes like me? So she didn't want any of that. So she just unfollowed everyone. So she probably just doesn't scroll.

Because I'm like, how do you see people you want to see? She's only really active like on TikTok and on Instagram. I feel like she probably has a Finsta though. So maybe on her Finsta she follows you. She never pops up on my TikTok ever. You have to be like on Liv Talk. That's what we the tiktok is live talk because i do i see her name and songs pop up all the time but i never see her she doesn't she only started posting recently because she has the album to promote that's available on itunes and spotify i've seen that her poster is like her like that's her tour poster yeah which do you have an american express card oh

my god why you want to buy tickets also no because i don't have good credit and i don't know how to pay off my credit card so no wait i think moses does though why what do we want one of my tickets she has an american express pre-sale um and i don't have an american express anymore so oh when do you need we could get them maybe i don't know does our american express work i don't know i don't know either we got the american express around our um when i say we my husband because he had the good credit score until we became by the way until we got joint accounts um it's he just credit score so like if you get married to someone and they have awful

credit maybe don't get a joint account with them because we got a joint account we still have like our separate accounts and stuff like that but we got a joint one and it like totally changed his credit score and he had like perfect credit so like anyways back to the wedding our wedding i told you this whole thing we had a budget of like 200,000 we spent the whole 200,000 she goes oh that buys you drapes basically and i was like oh yeah so we had nothing like no entertainment nothing so the last two weeks we had a scramble for anything like he took out a line of credit his american express all this stuff like that i also didn't know you had to pay the american express like off i thought it was like a credit card where you just like make payments so i was like ah luckily I still was making money back then.

But, um, and Moses, I mean, he paid it off pretty fast, but I was, I felt so bad because I was just like, oh my gosh, what do you do? Cause he like took out like all these, like for this wedding that he like didn't even, you know, anyways, it was more budget than we wanted. But what was the point of that? I just shared a lot of information about you. Yeah. Oh, don't get the joint account.

Oh, but we have American Express. That's the point. Yeah. We're going to have to invest in it. I think it's paid off now. I think so. So I don't know. My boyfriend. Oh, but we have American Express. That's the point. Yeah, we're going to have to invest in it. I think it's paid off now. I will pay that off. I think so. So I don't know.

My boyfriend is really good. He's like obsessed. He always talks about his credit score. He's like, I don't know why. He's obsessed with it. What is it? I don't know what it is, but it's good. Like 800.

Like I'm someone who is kind of like out of sight, out of mind, you know? Yes. Like I just set up the payments and then I'll just like use it. Oh, yeah. You have credit. Yeah. But sometimes, but I have ADHD too. So I also am like, oh, I'll pay that off. And then I'll just like use it. Oh, yeah. But you have credit. Yeah. But sometimes when I have ADHD, too. So I also I'm like, oh, I'll pay that off.

And then I forget. Yeah. So, you know, there's been some casualties, but he's like obsessed. Like he'll use his credit card and pay it off like the next day. He's like one of those. Those people are psycho. I'm like, how do you do it? He loves it.

No, even to this day, I forget to make payments. I just forget. I had one credit card. I don't have credit cards now for this reason. I had one credit card. And the reason I got bad cards to begin with was when I was 18, I used to take out like, they used to send me credit cards for like $500. So I had like eight $500. I paid them and like never, I didn't know you were supposed to make credit cards off. Swear. No idea. Like I would just throw out like bills that looked like junk. I just threw

them out. Like I wouldn't. And, but the same way I used to get SAG after residual checks, but I didn't know I was new. I was 18. I was on one TV show and I used to throw those out. Like I wouldn't. But the same way I used to get SAG-AFTRA residual checks. But I didn't know. I was new. I was 18. I was on one TV show. And I used to throw those out. And those used to be like $2,300. Because I was on a show called The Greg Barron Show. And I joined AFTRA almost right away when I was 18.

And they would pay me like $1,800, $2,000 an episode, which was huge for me when I was 18. But I wasn't getting the checks because I was throwing them out because they looked like junk. So I was just like, what? Anyways, I tried to like – it was back when AFT just after before seg after and so i think i don't know maybe i should contact to see if i don't know it was like 15 years ago to see if i get that back pay because i didn't get one paycheck from there and i didn't realize till later that they're like oh yeah you got sent that through seg after i was like wait what or after so um yeah i'm just i'm so bad with that i don't know i just moses pays all our bills now because

i just can't but but if you get married but you said you had okay credit i think if you have okay credit that mine is horrible like we couldn't even do a regular like loan on this house we literally had to do like an income loan to show like our income because they're like oh your credit it's awful and i was trying to pin on moses but you can't do that either if you buy a joint house like he can't just do it anyways it's very complicated pay your credit card bills or don't get credit cards period i just know now like when we buy cars are just like your credits all i mean i think we're working on it my husband gets helping me get it up thank god because we did when we when we got this house he helped me like pay up i had like these little do you know those like net credit loans no they're like they give you ten thousand

dollars but you have to pay back like a hundred thousand dollars i didn't't know these things. Okay, be careful of these. Like speedy cash, net credit, all have given me loans. And I would take out loans for like $10,000. And literally you pay back like $500 a month, but it's like the rest of your life. So I know. So when we bought this house, you know, we had cash to get this house. So I was just like, he's like, oh, maybe pay off this one. That's like $8,000.

Because right now you're making $80,000 worth of payment. It's crazy. Interest rates, all these things I don't understand. Don't do it. Don't do it. It's so confusing. Economics is like really messed up. I actually really hate it.

What is? Economics. Oh, economics. Yeah. The business. Our business. Our economy. I don't know.

What is economics? Like the study of the economy, I think. The study of the economy. The study of our world. The economy is the business. Because they always say you're of the economy, I think. The study of the economy. The study of our world. The economy is the business. Because they always say you're stimulating the economy. So you're putting, it's the money of our world, right? You can call it finance.

You can call it economy. But, you know, in economics, you learn about finances. So the synonym for economy is finances. So the synonym for economics is finance. Like your own finance. Because you're not an economy. You know, the economy is the big. The world.

The world of money and flows and all that. Yeah. Your personal finances, you know, that's part of. Are a mess. We should change the category of this podcast to like educational. Because Moses does teach us. So smart. So smart all the time.

Honestly, like as much as I'm like when he's like, don't spend a thousand dollars on shoes i'm like it does help though so much like i can like save some money now i'm like wow i never knew how to do it before it is crazy how like actually dumb i am when it comes to this stuff like i'm really bad to me like money doesn't because when it's in your account to me it doesn't seem real like it seems like fictional like not real stuff i say this all the time it's like so then i can never really take it now i'm at the age where i have to start taking it seriously but before i'd be like it's not like real like if i don't feel it physically like it's not real when i have like 300 cash i like don't want to spend it at all but meanwhile i spent like a

three thousand and i was like whoa that's like so we were just like with the state during glam too i'm like it's such a weird thing because he's talking about moving and how he has to pay a hanger, someone to hang his TV for like $1,000 or something like that. And I was like, is that crazy? Like you have to work in order to pay this guy to hang your TV. Like we're all just like rolling the money around to each other. It's so weird. I don't know. It's so bizarre.

But speaking of money, by the way, oh my God, this is okay. Maybe I'm not great with my finances, but today we did it for a good cause, you guys. Okay. So last time we had Matthew Stevens on, which was so great. He raised money for my Givenchy boots. He raised $6,500. He ended up donating. We'll put this up on the screen because we like to show transparency here.

He donated $3,250 to the Hawaii Community Foundation and another $3,250 to the Los Angeles LGBT Center. So that was really cool. He did that after he left, sent me the little screenshots. So I went ahead and matched the same. I donated $3,250 to the Hawaiian Community Foundation and $3,250 to the Los Angeles LGBT Center. So I figured I got the refund from the boots. So girl math, I'm like, oh, that's like free money. So I was like, let's donate it, you know? So we donated it to those charities. So thank you guys so much for buying yourself tanners. Thank you, refunding my boots. And

we had a happy ending. So we donated, what is that total? What is that? $13,000 total. Wow. We're just doing philanthropic work here on Just Trish. I felt so excited. And also we got a couple of sponsors. So, you know, someone bought my Birkin. So thank you. I mean, you know, we're stimulating the economy. Oh my god.

We're making it go round. So thank you guys so much i was i was really excited i emailed oscar at like 4 a.m i woke up this morning i was like so excited i don't know why i was like so bubbly because that's gonna be ariana today um but i used this bronzer not even just saying this loved it like it doesn't get on my sheets right after i used it i looked like just like a normal like natural wow yeah i was actually very shook i loved it good yeah it must be good i mean the way he formulates it so he must be he must be doing well yeah we offered to fly him in and get him a hotel and car he's like i got it i was like okay boosh

love that yeah like very girl boss behavior yeah it's very good donated the money i was like yes you know i'm not that i didn't think he would but it's like the fact that he does these like he raises money for that lift driver and stuff Like I need to be a better person. I know. It was so heartwarming. I know. I hear I was like pressed about these Givenchy boots and I was just like, let me just like donate this money.

Yeah. And I mean, and the product is good too. So it's a win all around. Buy it. Illusion Bronze. He was super sweet. That was super fun. I love having that.

I want to do more like guests like that. Someone said that too. They're like, you should have guests that are just like a Starbucks employee. And I was like, that would be so interesting. Right. Maybe like you should have guests that like just like a starbucks employee and i was like that would be so interesting right maybe like hot topics we just have like a current person does that yeah right and i love my starbucks employees the ones near here they're so nice i wonder if they would want to interview because he was so like natural he was like a performer or like you could tell he's like in la like an entertainer but i always wonder that like if you like get someone and they're just like so quiet i don't

know i almost worked at a starbucks once and i'm glad i did that's another job that is like hard what was it because even um remember we so we both worked at target we both and there was a moment and both worked in electronics which is like so crazy thing in the past now i feel like the electronics are like leaving target now like nobody goes there like no one's gonna buy a 35 cd at target no one's buying like the electronics are like leaving Target now. Like nobody goes there. Like no one's going to buy a $35 CD at Target. No one's buying like the cameras at Target or anything. No. Best Buy, Amazon.

But I was almost – when they opened a Starbucks in our Target, they almost moved me. Well, they didn't – I like applied. I don't know why. I was like I want to be a barista. I'm saying like they offered me a phone. Just lying for no reason. You're becoming me. I love it.

Me too. They offered it. Just kidding. I applied. That's so me. So Trish coded. And I was was like and i interviewed and i was like ready to do it then i changed my mind last minute so like remembering all the little recipes seems scary so yeah i don't know if i could i don't think i could do it starbucks would be i worked at a coffee bean at the yahoo building in burbank but like you could only get they had free coffee there so you could only get

like 10 coffees it wasn't too complicated but even people are so specific and it's just like it's too much with the temperatures when they're like i want it at certain temperature i'm like so you have to put the i'm like that's too much and when people make like my my boyfriend is also very guilty of this he he's obsessed with the ariana drink that they had at starbucks the cloud ariana drink it was like the cloud mocha something i've never heard of this he loves it but they discontinued it so now he has to like he like looked it up on like a starbucks reddit to see how they made it so now every time he goes he like lists everything to make to remake the cloud drink oh my god but it's like it sounds so annoying i'm like if i was your barista like i would freaking throw this drink in

your face but i gotta tip them ours too like i just give them the most i like, could you make me a drink that, like, tastes like summer or something? And they're like, oh, my gosh. Oh, man. Is it a lot? So does he make it? He has to make it. Yeah. He has, like, the ingredients list and, like, how to mix it or blend it and all that stuff.

What's, like, an official drink she has? Yeah. Oh, my God. What power does she have? She has so much power. I mean, that's why, like, we're scared of her, but also we love her also we love her because it's like dang girl you can really just get anyone and do anything for you she's just so at the end of the day she i think she's very sweet like her personality yeah i don't know why i made that face i know sorry i was having a lot of emotions i was like okay sweetener

and then i was gonna say like but she stole a man but i'm like well we don't know that for a fact i heard they're like living together is that real did you see that report no maybe that was fake maybe i dreamt it what was that they said they were like living who wrote somewhere we saw a report and it said that they're living together okay there was like pictures of them oh my god yeah supposedly well she did like his photo within like a few minutes. Did you see that? I did see that, yeah. Okay, Ariana on it. Double tapping so fast. Notifications on. I know. I kind of live for that though.

You know, with that situation too, I'm like looking at it with my Emerald City glasses on. I'm just very much like maybe they were separated. Maybe everyone was just already separated, you know? Yeah. You know when you're already done with a relationship? Here's the thing too. I always think about this too.

Like if you cheated or something like that. I'm like, well, you must have already been done with a relationship, right? So at that point, like, yeah, it sucks. It's like a slap in the face. But it's just kind of like, I guess it was over. Like, and there's nothing you can do about it. I don't think someone can tempt you out of your relationship if you're happy. Right?

That is tea. Yeah. I think at the end of the day, I think if that person was like fully invested in the relationship, no one could convince, like there wouldn wouldn't be any they wouldn't be swayed or convinced to like leave that relationship unless they were like fully in it you know yeah that's what my therapist always said too they're like it's not really you maybe that was like a final straw or a reason to get out of it for that person but they probably were already just out of the relationship yeah they weren't into it and you can't like in that whole process of like a breakup especially that too like sucks

and it like messes you up psychologically too but looking back at whenever that's happened to me i'm like i don't know i guess it's just it happened for a reason i would say for a reason always i always believe that it's crazy especially not having a baby i'm just like gosh the people i wanted a baby with pretty much anybody at the time and i was like god i even the people i even the people I was in love with, I was like, I could not imagine having a baby with that person because it just would have been such, I don't know. It would have, I don't know. It just would not have worked. Like seeing Moses as the, as a dad, I was just like, oh my God, I picked like the perfect dad. And everyone says it too, by the way, at our birthday party, my dad is like, and we're singing happy birthday. And you hear my dad in the back talking to someone like,

I think it was Moses's friend just being like, did you ever think Moses would be this amazing of a father? Just like gloating about him because everyone says that but it's like anyone else i was like god my life would have been miserable yeah isn't that crazy how it worked but then like when you're in that moment like in that heartbreak it feels like the end of the world but then like now looking back it's like wow thank god thank god and someone it's always works out for the better always i feel like if you're meant to be, it'll come back, but, I mean, it never happened for me, but yeah, I think it always works out. Yeah, so Rich and the Best, who, I forgot her name, Ethan Slater's

ex. Ethan Slater's wife, I know. Yes. I hate when people refer to someone as, like, someone's, I know. I know, me too. I forgot her name, though. But maybe that's better. Maybe she wants, she wanted privacy. Yeah, true. Maybe we give her, you know, because she's not in the limelight, right? No, no, I don't think so. She's like, yeah. I'm excited for Wicked, though. I do, I do love Ariana. We were just saying if she, if she came on the show, she would look so tiny.

Did we talk about this before with the chair? You got her tiny little to the chair. Oh, my God. We haven't even talked about it. Oh, we did talk about Donny Osmond. Shout out. I literally feel like Rosie O'Donnell or something. Like, shout out Donny Osmond.

Like, you know when they used to hold stuff back in the day? Love Rosie. Shout out Donny Osmond for the best interview ever. It was so good. This is us at Harrah's. They were so nice. They even, like, gave us a room at Harrah's. Like, it was crazy. They treated us so good. This is us at Harrah's. They were so nice. They even gave us a room at Harrah's. It was crazy.

They treated us so VIP. We talked to Donnie before and after the show and then, of course, for the interview. So that was really great. This was my Drake moment. So thank you, Donnie, for that. Appreciate. Love. Oh, Apple Reviews real quick, too.

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socials too. And thank him for being on the Just Trish podcast. What I do to signify Just Trish is I do a pink heart and a disco ball which is kind of ironic because I always think the disco ball is our thing but you never see it it's over on this side

where our guests are so I guess only when guests are here you see it we do? in the wide oh okay so we can know

I want to do an Ariana Grande I don't know if it's a new photo I saw a picture of her with a disco ball like there's a giant disco ball and she's like laying on it have you seen it? it might be old I can send it to you I don't know but I thought it was new she kind of her with a disco ball. Like there's a giant disco ball and she's like laying on it. Have you seen it? It might be old.

I can send it to you. I don't know. But I thought it was new. She kind of had like a wet look. But she didn't have her eyebrows like this. So anyways, I love a whole disco. I love a disco ball moment. It also might be a Dancing with the Stars thing.

But, you know, we'll just say it's ours. So first review goes, this is my absolute favorite podcast. Trisha always makes me laugh and is so entertaining. Watching the podcast is truly the highlight of my day. Thank you, guys. I get a lot of posts like this on accident. It means so much to me. Like, I'm shook every day that people like this podcast. Like, I cannot believe, like, it does well. Like, this is – I mean, I can. I love it. I knew I'm, like, a star. But also, like, it hasn't happened in such a long time. So I'm appreciative. Could listen to this podcast for hours. Love that each podcast is super long and that it

feels like a conversation with friends. Trish, Moses, and Oscar are killing it. Sometimes, thank you, and you guys are killing it. Sometimes we go like three hours. You caught a lot that one episode. We never address that. We address things on camera. It was a PR cut.

Let's just say that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, anyways. Anyways, sometimes we go three hours, but it's actually good we have Oscar. We always just figure. We have a PR team. Yeah. Oscar is our in-house PR, too.

Oscar is literally everything. Moses is all the tech, audio, everything. And Oscar does everything else. Like, it's insane. Like, you literally, like, edit. You produce. You call guests. You're literally, like, doing everything.

It's insane. Plus, you're coming up with great outfits. It's amazing. No, it's really good. And I'm always like, well, we can get another editor to help. And you're like, I love editing. And you are a really good editor. We cannot get a better one.

But it is, I feel like you're doing so much. I'm like, God, we really should have someone else. But you're so great. And it's fun. Until I like completely become like unhinged, I think. And then like, yeah. They'll be like, pry me away. Like, please take a break.

No, I love it. I love working all the time. But I'm also like, I know when like you're doing so much. You have like three jobs. I mean, now you're like cutting some down. Yeah. But this is, my heart's in just Trish. It really is.

People just love you. I love you too. I just I just know. I mean, you always obviously like I like to say I discovered you, but no, you've been like killing it for so long. Honestly, Strawberry 17. I know we mentioned her every episode, but I feel like I can't look at you without mentioning Strawberry 17.

So she's the real one. I love this podcast. It's so funny. Trish and Oscar have the greatest connection and make catching up on the very exciting fun oh on the tea very exciting fun I also love Moses in the back

Moses in the back with the occasional chime in I can't wait for each episode every week yay we have a Moses cam it's so exciting iconic

Moses I love that too you like dress I like it because usually you just wear like a white t-shirt now you put a little effort

into it I like it you always look nice when we go out he always wearsshirt. Now you put a little effort into it. I like it. I try. You always look nice when we go out. He always wears jeans when we go out. Like when we went to Chuck E. Cheese, like I'm someone who'll just like wear – I wear like a baby jumper or something. I wear like sweatpants outfit.

He'll always put jeans on. Do you believe the house in shorts or sweatpants? It's kind of crazy. My boyfriend's the same. My boyfriend will get dressed up and like he loves to just get – even if we're going like nowhere important, likes to like feel like he's getting dressed up. I i'm the opposite i like just like gym shorts and like a big t-shirt yeah yeah me too t-shirt yeah it was also my first time at chucky cheese oh okay even going to the grocery store you put jeans on and i'm like just go he always wears basketball shorts i'm going

i can't wear shorts in public i just feel so you had an oscar outfit on the other day. What was it? Oh, the pink shorts. And they were kind of like above the knee. I was like, oh my God, short shorts. You got them for me, first of all. I love them.

No, but I was shocked you wore them. I just got out of the shower so hard. I came down to organize everything and I just stayed in that outfit. You also have a Regina George tank top on. It says a little bit dramatic. It was like, it reminded me of Ariana and Thank U, Next. Oh my God. We're Next. Oh, my God. We're so Ariana Grande in this episode.

Oh, my God. I love Ariana. One day she'll come on. I can't wait. I feel like I'd love to have her on and we could just talk about like, you know, REM and stuff. Girly things. Girly things. Girly pop things.

But yeah, I always look crazy when we go out. Oh, I love this one. Iconic. Pop culture needs her. It's short to the point. I love it. That would be like if you had like a movie poster or something. You know what I love this one. Iconic. Pop culture needs her. It's short to the point. I love it. That would be like if you had like a movie poster

or something, you know what I mean? That would be like that. The critical review that's like on the, you know. Oh my God. Okay.

Well, not a movie trailer, but I thought about this like the other day. This vision came to me. I was like, you should edit like a little like trailer, like as if it's a commercial for TV for like Just Trish.

Like, hey, watch the Just Trish podcast and like all the highlights and the funny, you know, like. And like the sleep reviews. Yes. Oh my God. We might have to do that. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I know you're doing so much, but like I just think that would be so fun. I just, I don't know.

We need to find the disco ball transition. Oh yeah. Yeah. Maybe when we do the photo shoot with the giant disco ball, the Ariana. I'll send it to you. That's a good one. Final one. I've been watching Trisha. That's a good one. Final one. I've been watching Trisha since I was in middle school. Let me say this is one of my favorite shows she has done in a long time. She's hilarious, consistent, and she knows how to keep conversations and make them interesting.

Oh, my God. Thank you. People say that. And honestly, like, that's crazy because I really don't feel like I'm a good conversationalist by nature. But I really do love asking people questions. Like, even just naturally. I remember the first time me and Holly Madison hung out.

We were just, like, in McDonald's. And we were going to film a mukbang, which is supposed to be very casual talking. And it just turned into me interviewing her because I just have so many questions for so many people. It's crazy. Okay, you guys. So we have been celebrating a lot and I've been having a few drinks. I love to celebrate.

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There's a whole apology segment today. For what? There's so many apologies happening. I got an apology. I have to make a couple apologies. I don't know if I should start with the apology. I guess we'll just start off with the top. It's not really news, but I appreciated it.

Brianna Chicken Fry, which I don't think we ever mentioned her by name on the show. But I don't know. I really it. Brianna Chicken Fry, which I don't think we ever mentioned her by name on the show. But I don't know. I really try, if I see like anything about me, I really try to just skip it in general. But I just got the gist that she didn't see. Anyways, okay. Like literally, first of all, she apologized. First of all, that's like the most, that was so nice. Didn't accept it.

Didn't even need it. Because here's the thing. Like I'm actually used to people like laughing at me, laughing at my OnlyFans, whatever. But I feel like I never mentioned her my name and can I be real like she does change looks a lot so like when I first knew through BFF's podcast we did a zoom and like she never popped up on the zoom you know like zoom only pops up certain people she never popped up so I didn't see that I didn't connect her with this barstool people making fun of my OnlyFans I really didn't I don't know if I said I didn't know her or whatever I did not connect her with this barstool of people making fun of my OnlyFans. I really didn't. I don't know if I said I didn't know her or whatever.

I did not connect it. Also, it was, like, far away. Like, there was – I just didn't see it. Obviously, I've heard of her recently because, like, Tana's been on her podcast and stuff, and I see her all over TikTok. So I was like – and I like her name. I love chicken fries at Burger King. So I was like, this is cool.

This is a cool name. I saw her on Theo Vaughn's podcast. So, like, I was like, oh, I know who this person is. Obviously, I did not put that she was the BFF's person, the OnlyFans person, and the – who did I just mention? Tana? The Tana person. Oh, and then there's something about a boa at a concert. I didn't know that.

It was her too. Like the Theo Vaughn. I didn't get all this was together. And she also changed her look. She just went brunette. She looks beautiful. So I truly didn't say her name because I didn't know but also didn't want to – I don't know. But she sent me a really nice apology.

She is 24. So I was – when people are young, I don't know. But she sent me a really nice apology. She is 24. So I was, you know, when people are young, I get it. You know, when you're like laughing or making fun of someone, that's why I don't like high school boys because they're the kings that just like laughing and whatever. So she sent me an apology and she was, I genuinely didn't mean it to be mean. Like, you know, I thought it was supposed to be a funny house tour and all stuff like that. I take it as a sincere apology. I think that's very sweet. She could have to write back or whatever. But I thought it was nice. I thought it was nice to even like get that because, and I wrote, I did write back there because I was like, I, for some reason was hanging

on to that one incident. I didn't know anyone involved. I just knew it was like Barstool that shared it. And I was just like, oh, I don't know what it was. It just gave me such an ick vibe. And I like hung on to it for so long, which is like crazy. I'm like 35 or whatever, but it was always something. So it meant a lot. And I like, I like an apology. I feel like apologies do mean so much. I feel like people don't do apologies because they think it doesn't matter or people get over it. But like it gives you a sort of closure. That's why I like over apologize to people because I feel like even if I'm slightly in the wrong, like I should apologize. Like I just feel like it feels better for you, for that person. So I appreciated it. I don't know.

It gave me like some sort of closure. Like I just like, I like when someone can just like apologize for like, you know, even if it is just hurting your feelings. I know people don't like that apology where it's like, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. But honestly me like some sort of closure. Like I just like, I like when someone can just like apologize for like, you know, even if it is just hurting your feelings. I know people don't like that apology where it's like, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. But honestly, like it feels pretty good. Like my biggest thing is like when people just can't do an apology, just can't say sorry. Like maybe you didn't mean it that way, but just say sorry because you hurt someone. You know what I mean? Like, because aren't you sorry for that?

Or if they, if people think they had nothing, like nothing to apologize for, like they're not in the wrong at all. I'm just like, how can you not see that it's a two way street? Cause most all the time, it's like a little bit of both people. Like maybe one person did more, but I'm like, ah, just apologies go a long way. Um, so I have my own apologies today. This is very brief and then we'll go on to the hot topics. But, um, my first one of course is to Bunny XO who I actually love and adore and I wasn't gonna even say anything because we talked on the phone and it's like we're totally fine which is like all I needed

but I just want to do it publicly because I really really really love her and I love her I've loved her first and then I just got into like jelly roll you know obviously got really big and I started liking them together I started seeing them on podcasts the way they talk about their relationship like I just always really respected love I loved her I was supposed to go do her podcast. And I just want to like clear the air too. We went to Vegas to go do the Donny Osmond. We had the show that night and we had the interview the next day. I thought because we were driving up, I would have time to go just do hers. And we just didn't. With a baby and stuff like that, we like packed up way too late. We got there at four o'clock. We had to go

to Givenchy to pick up the boots. The reason I didn't try the boots on at Givenchy because Moses ran in to get it because we were running out of time to go see the show. So it was like, I texted her a couple hours when we were out of Vegas and I was like, I just, I like, I'm so, so sorry. And let me tell you, and you know this Oscar, we had someone recently cancel on us while I was in glam. It was like a day I had like blue eyeshadow. Anyways, we didn't do the podcast, but oh man, I was, I was so PO'd. I was so annoyed because, because Bunny has a family too. I was like, if you waste my time, like away from my family and stuff, like, oh my God, it makes me so mad. On top of that, like, you know, I do the glam. I'm

in the glam. I'm paying money for it. Like I'm, I was, I was livid. And the person's excuse maybe was valid, but even so they could have texted me the night before. Cause it was, it was like this thing that happened, whatever. So I was so annoyed. And I wrote that person off completely. The person was like, I'll come on next week. And I was like, I'm done. I'm done. Like it's, I, I hate that so much. So me canceling on her, like literally with a couple hours to go was awful. And then when we talked, she goes, you know, I sent you the voice memo and you didn't respond. It felt like another slap in the face. And I am so sorry for that too because I was like, I got the audio note. And mostly contest this.

When we got back to the room because we just went to the Donny Osmond concert, you know, I'm just like so, you know, it was on a high from that. On top of that, my baby is not sleeping. So my mom was watching her. So we're trying to get the baby to sleep and stuff like that. It wasn't until the next day. I was like, oh my God, I did not respond to her. I felt so bad.

And I'm such, now I know how to just handle these situations. I'm so non-confrontational, but like, obviously it's worse to not text back. I'm just not a good communicator. And it was awful. And I so get it. I was, oh my God, I was mortified. I was embarrassed. Obviously it was made public.

And it was, it was, I mortified. I was embarrassed. Obviously it was made public and it was, it was, I was just, I was embarrassed. I'm like so beyond sorry. Cause I knew she, I know she has a family and it's just daughter on top of that. She has really like serious personal family issues. She's like dealing with, and she talks about it publicly, but I hope all is well there. Cause I think that's the most important thing. But I like, we talked, we're good, but I really, really, really, I'm truly sorry. And it was never like me canceling on her to do a better opportunity. We had these two things planned and it just like didn't work out. And I just feel, I felt awful. And I still feel so, so bad.

So again, I am one to give an apology where apology is due. And I will apologize for the rest of my life for this because like it's literally the most annoying thing. So I have no problem giving apologies when they are deserving of one. And also Adam McIntyre, just real quick. Um, I sent him an email about this, but like, I actually didn't realize that every time I talk about the Colleen situation and talk about Adam, I always say like, you know, well, Adam doesn't like me and Adam this, I always put this disclaimer up and it's kind of like a

defense mechanism because I just, one, don't want him to think he needs to talk nice about me because I support him with this. And two, it's like a defense mechanism because I know one day I'll, I'll mess up or he'll do something he doesn't like, you know, or any drama channel. So I never wanted to be like, oh, we're friends or whatever. You know what I mean? But regardless, I don't need to do that disclaimer. He said it really like hurt him and bothered him. And he's absolutely right. Like I don't need to do the disclaimer because to me, it's kind of the same when people are like, oh, this person, we'll talk about this later. Like when Jojo was like, Colleen's a really great person. It's kind of like you're setting it up as if saying,

so this stuff's not true. So that's kind of like the opposite. So when I say Adam, like, oh, he talks bad about me. Like it kind of sets up already in your mind. Like he's not a good person. So maybe, so I just, anyways, I apologize. And anytime we talk about Adam with Colleen's situation, like I just won't ever say that, but it's more a defense mechanism. So Adam, I am sorry. I sent him an email. I really just wanted to give him an apology there, but, um, oh my gosh, like, hi, just talking so much today. Um, but yeah, I never want to make anyone like feel bad. And I don't know. I learn every day. I'm 35. I'm always learning. And, um, yeah, the, the cancellation thing I never ever do. It was just, oh God, we scheduled it. I scheduled it

so poorly and everyone told me and was like, you're not going to make it. You're not this. And I was just like, no, because I actually had rescheduled before. It wasn't last minute like that. It was like, you know, a couple of days in advance, I rescheduled on her. And I think of Bunny and Jolly Roll as like celebrities. Like I do not even, not that it matters, but they're not in the influencer category, like in no way. Like to me, they are celebrities. Like I told Bunny on the phone, like her calling me out is like the equivalent of like Holly or Britney Spears or something calling me out. Like it was mortifying because I like love her so much. So it was all really, really bad, but I hope everything is as well as can be with her family. Cause I know she's going through a lot of stuff, which

none of this really matters in the grand scheme of things when like serious stuff is happening with your family and health and stuff like that. Like none of this really matters, but it was really disrespectful to waste her time. Like I'm like, I'm mortified. It's mortifying. And when it came out, I was like, I couldn't have been more embarrassed i had crazy anxiety i was like wow like i really messed that one up so those are my apologies do you have anyone to apologize to no no yeah no apologies no i was gonna say this later when i would kind of clock some people but i'll say it now oh my gosh um well now we don't have to clock everybody no one's gonna clock now yeah well we can clock some people if we need to. True.

People have to like give you some grace too because there was another thing that was really kind of triggering me this past week was when the people comment like, oh, if Trisha is standing up, she's like slipping back into the drama or whatever, which is not true and kind of misogynistic. I think like there is power in being unbothered and keeping it moving. But there's also power in defending yourself when you feel like you need to. I didn't see this. Who said that? Does anyone I know or is it just like random? Someone really annoying that I will have to pay. I really had to like rein myself in because I wanted to like go off because it was like

very unemployed behavior. Yeah. I think there's power in defending yourself and you have the right to when it comes to it, you know, and it totally. So people need to give you the grace to know that you've changed a lot. You've come a long way. A lot of people, when they just want a justification to not like you, they cite some stuff. And granted, was the stuff in the past bad? Yeah.

But you were also had a mental illness that was undiagnosed and you were on a lot of different substances. So you were not like a truly functioning version of yourself. Yeah. And now with like Moses and Malibu, you are like the best person ever. I would not like work a nine hour office job from 4 a.m. to 1 p.m. And then come here and then shoot for three hours and then edit all night. If Trisha was not a great person and so kind and not even when like you needed anything to like you've been nice from the jump. When some people at Joey and Daniel christmas party were not very sweet which i was always very sweet from the jump and that i had i just needed to say that because it's not when you're

that girl everyone wants to come out of the woodworks and say something yeah so i feel like now it's time to like really just put that out there the character affirmation you know yeah you are such a sweet person so nice and you go out of your way that's why with the bunny thing too i knew exactly what you're going through because you want to make people happy like you don't want them to feel bad you want to you're like a people pleaser when it comes down to it so i know exactly what you went through and then it just like realistically didn't pan out but i know how badly you wanted to make that work because you a you love her and then you also just want to make her happy too yeah all of it because of course it would feel like a slap in the face and that's why i was like i just ended i told her on the phone i wanted to know now i'm like i think of you as like this high like

she is she's there that's massive power couple they have this documentary and who like it's very it's very amazing and very inspiring and i was just like man i really messed up and even if it wasn't someone massive i I still would feel bad. I feel like I've done that maybe once more. I rarely do it. I rarely cancel like the day of like, and so yeah, it was, it was, but thank you for that. I appreciate that.

And I, it's crazy seeing everyone pop up now and say something and give their piece. But at the end of the day, at least the the real ones know the real ones know what's up and that's really all that matters now it really does oh my god i don't even feel like it i was like oh my god it's crazy like looking for hot topics and especially with like youtube tea i was like oh a lot of it's just like people saying things about you i know i'm the drama and it's like little things that are so like out of it's i think it's kind of funny because you go you've been going out of your way even like behind the scenes she's just been going like out of her way to like be kind and like not get into mess always always people take little things out of context and like run with it and it's so funny because i've been really i've been so

trying every comment i say if it's it look if it's an actual drama i just won't talk about it before an interview i'm just like i don't want to talk about this. If something, I cut it out. So when I didn't cut out, if I don't cut out something, I think I'm being really nice, like, you know, in some way. And so I always try to just be, so in the future, I will always say, long time ago, don't remember, wish them well, you know, which is very true with everything, because the stuff that happened, uh, BM before Moses, you know, it's very much like not me. And I just, it's stuff that I just don't think about. It doesn't seem like my life.

And, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't behoove me to talk about it or anything. Like, you know what I mean? And I see that too when people bring up like, they'll talk about me and kind of almost like weaponizing, like me using drugs. And I'm like, I talk about it all the time. Like, but it's a weird thing for other people to like weaponize, to be like, well, or just use and just to throw out now, because it's like, it's not something I do now. It's not something I shy away from talking, but it's like such a weird thing to bring

up like different times in my life from so long ago. And it's just like not where I'm at. So now I know certain things to just never talk about again. But I don't know. And also I just don't like shying away from like those kind of questions. You know, I feel like if people want to ask, I just say it's a long time ago. I feel like if there's there's so much new stuff now to talk about. I don't know.

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Shoe cam. Okay, let's do shoe cam. That's a beautiful transition, Moses. Yes, thank you, thank you. He's like, let's just do your shoes. And they match your mic. They match your mic. Oh, yeah.

So these shoes today were, these aren't Valentino, but I guess one of the crystals already came off when Moses was helping me with the shoes. He said one of the crystals. These were originally like $4,000 shoes, but I did not pay $4,000. I paid like 900 bucks, maybe 1,000 off Bergdorf Goodman. They had like literally just my size, 38. So I got them on a good deal. I can't walk in them, but they're very cute.

They're also very tight. They're 38, so they're my big size up. And yeah, I can't walk in them, but they're very cute. They're also very tight. They're 38. So they're my big size up. And yeah, I can't walk in them. But they're cute. They're kind of giving me the Givenchy vibe. All of them are the same. Like this Versace bag, the shoes, the Givenchy.

They all have the same crystals. All a little cheap, but I still buy them because I love a pink crystal moment. Is there an update on your shoe closet sale? I'm actually genuinely curious. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. We literally – okay. Before I left for Vegas, I really was hustling. I'm actually genuinely curious. Oh yeah. Oh my God. We literally, okay. That before I left for Vegas, I really was hustling. I'll tell you why I wanted the Givenchy boots. My daughter's party was like ridiculously expensive for two hours. Like it was so insane.

Like what they charge for these kids parties. It's insane. And like, anyways, um, so we had that, oh, Vegas was coming up. So I was like, okay, Vegas. And then it was a whole thing. So I was really hustling and, um, shoes are selling them. Like we sell shoes. My I was like, okay, Vegas. And then it was a whole thing. So I was really hustling and, um, shoes are selling them. Like we sell shoes. My mom was shipping out like 30 packages a day, but I think now I like chilled promoting stuff. Like the Chanel is still for sale on the Birkin still for sale. I still get emails, but I'm kind of like, there's just, I got hundreds of emails and no one really, I think they just wanted to know how much they were like being nosy or whatever, which is fine. Um, so I'm just like over it. I'm just like, I'm done selling

the stuff. The rainbow Birkin's up in my closet now it's just there forever no nobody wants that literally the most worthless priceless thing I've ever owned nobody wants it I was even going down like $18,000 is like paid $48,000 which is insane it's so insane um it's going down to like $30,000 nobody wanted it I was like okay I, let me just keep this. I mean, it's a cute pride moment. I haven't gone to pride in years, but it's good. That's what I should do. Maybe if I sell it, I'll donate half to the LA LGBT. Oh, that'd be sweet.

Yeah. But half because I need some of that money back. But we'll do half. Yeah, because it is so cute. But I don't know. Anyways, it all worked out or didn't because the Givenchy puts it in me. They were kind of, I was too fat for that. So anyways, we haven't gone to any hot topics.'t know. Anyways, it all worked out or didn't because the Givenchy boots didn't fit me. They were kind of too fat for that. So anyways, we haven't gone to any hot topics.

I know. Let's get into the hot topics. Once you have more to talk about your week. Should we start with the VMAs? The VMAs. NSYNC. That's all I know about the VMAs. That's all you took away from the VMAs.

Oh, the Nicki Minaj. Yes. The Nicki Minaj. I wanted to learn her rap for today. I wanted to be like. I love her. Are you recording? The one at the end.

Was she before or then? Oh, Itty Bitty Piggy? Itty Bitty Piggy? Is that? That's the name of it? Yeah. Oh, my God. These bitches can count.

The bitches of the one to the three. The bitches, they look up to her, but really, they look up to me. Wow. No, stop it. That was not it. That was so good. Stop it. That wasn't it. I wanted to learn it because I feel like I could do it for sure. Moses clapping. It, stop it. That was not it. That was so good. Stop it. That wasn't it at all.

I wanted to learn it because I feel like I could do it for sure. Moses clapping. It was not it. Oh, my God. No, I saw her. I like Nikki. Pink Friday, too. I would love if she came on to promote it.

That's not in the strike, right? No, because of the music. Yeah. And this is a good place for her to do a little promo shoot. Oh, my. Yes. Nikki, free of charge. Oh, my God. There were some Barbz in the comments saying barbs like let's get nikki on judge trish yeah so the barbs are slowly coming i've been a barb for a minute people know i've wrapped nikki minaj i i wrapped her k-mart

collection like i gotta live for her i bought her oh remember those perfumes she had with the pink hair yes that was i hope she comes out the volume two of that because that would be so cool i know they don't make like celebrity fragrances they really need to make a comeback because they were really iconic the gaga one the black one with the claw that was so cool i remember now it's all like boring like elizabeth and james like just like a black and white bottom yeah minimalism is so over like let's bring back extravagance i love a maximalist vibe yeah i know i'm i'm not about i try to be but i'm like no when did you try to be minimal i think i had a moment wasn't there a moment i was trying to be i was like oh i want to be like the kardashians i feel like we were getting rid of a lot of stuff

the most minimal you've been is like beetlejuice i was minimalized there oh we should get that cabinet made though yeah i've been wanting this beetlejuice cabinet made for so long and it's like literally it was like just paying off credit and debt the only thing that doesn't have crystals on it is the beetlejuice stuff i know well we could put some crystals on it i think that'd be very cool so your minimalism is back into maximalism right yeah okay yes i know i just love a maximalist maximalist lifestyle i love it oh my god okay so nikki hosted did we love it did you you were there i wasn't. I was just covering it. What does that mean you were covering it?

Like, I was in an office, like, watching it and, like, making videos about it. Wait, what? Why did you go to the office? I was wondering. You were like, oh, fun. And I was like, well, it's not really fun. Wait. Why did you have to go in for that?

Why couldn't you do it at home? Just watch it like everyone else on the couch? I wish. But, yeah, we had to be in the office, like, covering it. And when we get interviews or whatever, I have to, like, edit the interviews. Oh, my gosh. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. watch like everyone else i wish but yeah we had to be in the office like work like covering it and when we get interviews or whatever i have to like edit the interviews yeah okay so did you like it it was it was better than any vmas in recent history i think it was fun yeah nikki did like she hosted but really she was only on like a little bit in the beginning and the end i feel

like hosts are never on it's always the presenters so you never see the host i think they just kind of said she would host and then she talked a little bit at the beginning that okay did you see at the beginning she came out and she was like i just realized my shoe was unbuckled one two buckle my fucking shoe what was she rapping or was she just like she was just talking yeah she's so funny yeah she really cracks me up her personality is what is there but then she called the mtv because she kept saying like mtv scared that i'm gonna say something i'm because every like i said everyone was scared about cardi and megan and nicki being under one roof so she kept alluding to possibly calling him out and she went she won a vma she

was like should i call him out should i say something and then there was like silence she's like i'm not gonna say something so she could there was like silence. She's like I'm not going to say something. So she could have gone off but she kept it classy. Kept it cute. Yeah. She kept it cute. Because Megan the Stallion performed. Megan and Cardi performed. Yeah. And I saw that because Ice Spice was next to Taylor Swift and she was like not. She wanted

to sit there and not dance to it. Right? And Taylor was like getting it. And Ice was just like no. Yeah. Ice is loyal to Nicki for sure i love that the allegiances were funny like definitely funny to see because taylor is part of the nikki gang then because taylor taylor's team everyone i think like she's kind of bipartisan oh right because she was dancing to make this dahlia yes but maybe she didn't know the beef i don't know this beef i didn't know there was maybe she doesn't stay up to date with like other

people's beef i think but taylor was having a good time just to about everyone. She was really living like they. So they actually have a specific because the VMAs is kind of messy because they live stream the audience and like backstage and you can't hear what people are saying. So it's all like facial expressions and stuff, which is shady. Yeah. Down. That is so sus.

Setting the girls up. But they specifically have a camera just for taylor they put a camera in front of taylor's chair and she just kind of goes off and she was drinking she was having fun oh my god i kind of so wait so the camera's there the whole time on just taylor yeah they kind of switch between like backstage and different people but there's one on taylor all the time wouldn't that be doesn't he wouldn't she think she thinks it's annoying i i would think but i think as she's gotten older she kind of like degassed a little bit i think she was just having fun i mean i would love it if they had a camera just on me you would feel so special you're

like wow i really matter yeah no taylor is kind of that girl who do you think is the most that that girl at the vmas i besides taylor you think taylor is the biggest taylor yeah because she even like was turned she wouldn't perform. Like she turned down performing. And I think she went because they told her that she won everything. I don't think she would have gone if she didn't. She didn't win everything? She didn't win.

She made history by winning nine in one night, which is kind of crazy. So she is that girl. More than Beyonce, though, you think? Well, Beyonce wasn't there. Oh, okay. Yeah. You're right. I said there.

Yes. I think Taylor is like definitely an icon. But think something about beyonce because she's like legacy like she came like way before with destiny's child like she's like in a different category to me because it's a lot to like come up in that like the early 2000s and to still be totally you know performing and crushing it and all that stuff yeah i think it's way it's like so different yeah the vms was definitely messy oh the fun taylor was so like out of her little mind she even there was a moment where she had a twelve thousand dollar ring and the light they live streamed her like the diet the gem fell off of the twelve thousand dollar ring and you just see her being like oh my god do you think she borrowed it i mean she could afford it but do you think she

borrowed it i think that probably right because i think they lease out the jewelry or whatever um and then all of a sudden everyone came to like help her find it and then the fact that they live stream this is so incorrect that i loved it found it so there's people in the audience like the fans were like pointing out taylor went that way taylor went that way so everyone's like looking around have the flash on the floor to find it. And then they finally did find it. And they celebrated. Yeah. I would freak out.

I'd be like, oh my gosh, my little thing. But I just remember that, right? And people who worked on her music video, basically. And she sat with I Spice the whole time, which love, love that friendship. I know. I wanted to do my I Spice. I almost did to try the I Spice drink. That I Spice drink has like 13, like 100 calories and like all the sugar.

Does it have sugar munch like munchkin i think so that's what it said right yeah that is wild is her fan base munchkins yeah that's what her fans are called that's crazy so it's a pumpkin ice spice munchkin drink yeah god i do want to try it but we're having to wait to halloween because i think that's gonna be my first halloween look as i suppose we should hold on i want to wear has her long wig but i just love her little curly hair for her yeah because i think if you wore to be my first Halloween look is I spice. The one I want to wear has her long wig, but I just love her little curly hair. It's so signature her. Yeah. Because I think if you wore like the curly red hair, people automatically know I spice.

Okay. Okay. Oh, maybe. Hopefully I get my chain and I've been like ordering this chain like forever ago and I hope I get it in. What would be your counter outfit? I guess you could be Taylor since they were next to each other at the VMAs. I guess so, right?

Or Pink Panther. It's the girl that does the boys and the liar. Oh, I think I like the cat. Which would be cute. I love a little Pink Panther it's the girl that does the boys and the liars the boys and the liars which would be cute I love a little Pink Panther moment that could be cute I know I'm gonna sit down

next week and like really map out my my Halloween costumes because not only do we have to do it for this podcast I have to get it for my family I have to do my I have to do this whole

it's like a it's non-stop it's your time Halloween is like your magna log I know it's big it really is

and it's a lot it's a lot to get everything Around and coordinated And it's basically here It's basically here What do you think of guests too That will dress up I have a couple that were like

Kind of down But like I have to figure out Because I want to do like This cute Halloween set This whole thing But I loved That NSYNC was at the VMAs Oh yeah

Were you an NSYNC girly I wasn't NSYNC girly At the time You were Yeah What album do you remember? No Strings Attached I definitely remember. I think that's the one I remember the most I think. Yeah the initial like self-title album NSYNC was like cute. I love like tearing up my heart

but No Strings Attached oh my god I was like just absolute feral for them. I thought they were so good. I loved seeing them last night like I was just like oh my god nostalgia. Them in the elevator who does that b-roll? That's what I want to know is like did you see the video of them in the elevator just like pretending yeah they posted that right like this yeah who did that who took that someone with them i guess someone on their team someone with a camera i feel like it's like a moses or something just being like yeah okay here like laugh yeah i wonder who it was christopher patrick doing the most he's like ah i'm like oh my god those always crush me um justberlake, I feel like he hasn't been doing anything. So he's like, I'm just going to reunite with NSYNC.

They'll probably make so much money. And I wonder if they pay Justin Timberlake more money to do the tour. Oh, I imagine, right? I bet. Yeah. I feel like they would have to. Everyone else I feel like is very available. But I don't know.

Justin's not really doing much right now. No, literally nothing. Yeah. So might as well do it. Yeah. Joey Fatone is at Disney World, though. He performs there a lot. Lance Bass is in West nothing. Yeah. So might as well do it. Yeah. Joey Fatone is at Disney World, though. He performs there a lot. Lance Bass is in West Hollywood.

Yeah. Doing his. You know what's so funny? Lance was like, I don't really have that many NSYNC memories, but I do remember out of all of them, like the girl who used to babysit me, we would watch TRL together and like we would have to pick like which one she would ask me like, oh, which one's your favorite? Maybe she knew I was like a little all the way back. I must have been like five or five or six really yes you knew yeah wait but like did but lance wasn't out back no but he was the one i picked out of like isn't that yeah she

was adjusted she was a jt and i was a land interesting because even all my gay friends now would still say jt or jc jc was my second but lance was my first yeah so and then i guess maybe i just knew she my babysitter knew i knew interesting because he just didn't do anything in the band no i mean he's the i was never like uh i don't know if i ever really like the main person i don't know if i like the main person usually in like the group like the front oh you like the i was like a random person maybe it's like psychological you know what i mean maybe it's like i don't know me too i always thought like oh i don't want to like the one that everyone likes so i thought i used to like

chris kirkpatrick because i'm gonna like the one no one no one likes but i don't know joey was the real yeah the real one that no one liked poor joey right like he never no one liked him and i was like and look i love in sync like i i love each of them the same but i do feel like joey just got such a brunt of it i don't know why yeah i think especially i don't remember during definitely post i think but yeah i remember in the time it was always like jc and jt oh yeah everyone always talked about yeah maybe chris because he was a little like quirky and stuff like that but um i was so happy i heard they're performing at the sphere in vegas oh yes we The Sphere from her. I really love Vegas. Honestly, I might move there one day.

I love it. It also has like no state taxes or something. It's like really – anyways. I love Vegas. I could see us actually moving there one day or performing there or something like that. But I – The Sphere is so cool. I can't wait to see it. I think U2 is starting there.

But I heard NSYNC is supposed to like have a residency there. They have a song for the Trolls soundtrack. What? Yeah. That's why they reunited. What's the Trolls soundtrack? The movie. Maybe Malibu have a song for the Trolls soundtrack. What? Yeah, that's why they reunited. What's the Trolls soundtrack? The movie? Maybe Malibu will like it.

The Trolls? We watched it. It's actually really good. See? Wait, what? When did you watch the Trolls movie? With Malibu. The Trolls movie is really good.

There's like really good songs in it. We are always together. When did you watch the Trolls? You must be doing a podcast or something. But you're here. No, no. You went as a guest. Oh. You're like, maybe you're doing a podcast. Like you're always here. You were a guest doing a podcast or something. But you're here. No, no, you went as a guest. Oh, you're like, maybe you're doing a podcast.

Like, you're always here. You were a guest on a podcast. And I always look for movies that have a lot of songs and music. And that one has. I've never even seen a preview of this movie, have I? I would never think of watching it, but I don't know why I clicked on it. And it was actually good. We watched the second one, too.

Did she like it? Yeah, because just the music is outlifting. It's so colorful and glittery and all that. And St. had a song in it? For the new one. was actually good we watched the second did she like it yeah because just the music is like it's so colorful and glittery and all that insane kind of song in it for the new one i think there's a new trolls movie and they have it they do the soundtrack maybe all of this is just a build-up for the trolls i honestly think it is no would that be crazy i hope they're getting paid good because everyone's like yes but did people i don't know but did people care like i cared so much and sync was there but was it a big thing or not really?

You read the blogs. You know. I personally wasn't like that gagged to be honest. Yeah. But not to make it about Taylor. But she was the one that was really – like she lost her mind. Oh my god. And Ice Spice is so much younger.

She was sitting right next to her. And Ice Spice was like – she was laughing because Taylor was losing her mind. But like the millennial versus Gen Z was like very apparent between uh the two how old is i spice i think she's like 23 24 yeah she's a baby famous when i was young god to be famous at 23 would be unstoppable man they're so lucky i would love i spice on here too and she has a drink at duncan like so iconic she did a the commercial yes with crusty ben affleck why is he in there i'm sorry i get canceled and like can't promote anything but it's like ben affleck is like the worst of the worst and he's like

in the duncan super bowl commercials in the duncan ice spice why because he's from boston that's why you're gonna have him in the duncan commercial i think because he had those like viral photos at the with like the duncan's coffee I think he planned it to get this sponsorship. Because I'm sorry, Duncan. No one thinks Ben Affleck is cool. He's crusty. Stop it. No, that's what I was going to say earlier.

It's like Trisha slipping back into the drama. That's good. Because that felt a little drama. That felt a little petty right there to be like, we hate Ben Affleck. But I'll just speak for myself. I just don't like him personally. I don't know. This was a while ago, this conversation, but I have to say this because I was just like

defending your something, defending yourself from something that's like just straight up like lies. Like, here's the thing. I will protect my peace. If you want to say something that's not true, okay, whatever. But if it's like something so bold faced, like just not accurate at all, like there's, you know, it's just like at that point, yes, I will disrupt my peace for like a minute. Talk about it. I wasn't about to go look for receipts or anything like that like you can edit this part there or whatever i don't know but i wasn't about to go like look for receipts because that's disrupting my piece i was just gonna be like hey this is not true everyone knows it's not true that's it you know what i mean so it's not it's not slipping back

in drama and it's like this i consider gossiping and i feel like now i'm at a stage i was thinking about this right i was like oh my gosh like you know the gossiping it, it's just fun. I try to look at everything with a kind heart. You know what I mean? I really do with the Ariana situation, with everything. Even the drama I was in, like the Brianna chicken fry thing and stuff like that and whatever, this other stuff, you know, I try to look at it with a kind heart. I'm trying to be like, okay, maybe it's still bothering this person or maybe, you know, they're young or whatever.

Like, I really, really do. I try not to attack people just to attack people anymore. And Ben Affleck, I'm sorry too. I don't know why I attacked you so hard. I just don't love the Jared Duncans, but I think maybe I'm jealous just to attack people anymore. And Ben Affleck, I'm sorry too. I don't know why I attacked you so hard. I just don't love that you're a Duncan's, but I think maybe I'm jealous. I usually jealousy. I feel when I try to do like a, when I'm a little jealous, maybe I say something. Cause how is Ben Affleck with ice spice?

Anyways, that's the whole thing. I just thought that was like so crazy and so weird. Cause like, you know, sometimes these advertisers, I just feel like they're so not with it. Yeah. You know, they don't know what's cool. I don't really, I realize this too. I don't, I usually don't watch commercials because like I don't have commercials on YouTube or anything.

But then when I watch like Hulu or whatever, then they have the commercials and I'm like, what is going on? Like this doesn't sell me on anything. Like this is terrible. Awful. Yeah. The people they have, by the way, Hulu kind of a scam. We pay $65 a month for Hulu and they still show us three-minute commercials.

Like in the new episodes of The Bachelor or 90 Day Fiancé or whatever else we watch. They always show us commercials. Three, sometimes four-minute commercials. It's a lot. For $65 a month. We're like, we're going to get the elite leech. Yes. And I double, triple checked and I'm like, how are you still?

I think it's just like the newest episodes. Maybe they show us commercials. But it should be ad free, right? And they're increasing their prices again by like a dollar or two. Everyone's going back to cable. Everyone's like, we're over this. Yeah, it's too much. It's crazy.

I'm just like, why? And especially with the recession of the economy. Like, you know? Like, it's like, let's get it together, Hulu. Let's be with the times. So I'm making cheap shirts. I was going to make a, well, they're not cheap. But I'm making cheap shirts I was gonna make a well not they're not cheap but I'm making affordable shirts but they're still

custom but I still want to make them affordable but I don't want people to copy them either I don't like just I don't like just like screen frames I don't know I was like looking at them like wait no that's cute but it's easily copied this was like Olivia for Tarte but then you have this which is like you know it's embroidery no the reason I made the face I just love it

but like shirts that are easy to copy like my sap boy ones like everyone would like or the a little bit dramatic one or anything like they're just easy to replicate or cheap to replicate and so then you get like under under whatever so because the knockoffs yeah the knockoffs so that's why i was like okay let me do this custom shirt but still make it affordable because i want to be accepted. I understand the people because I am the people. I'm also the people. I'm selling my shoes. I'm selling my bag stuff. You know what I mean? So I'm trying to make it all cost effective, cost efficient, the best I can. We're going to have t-shirts by Christmas. I don't know if they're going to be like wow t-shirts, but I think the

fit, the feel is going to be cool, but I'm trying to keep it some basic. The hoodie is going to be outrageous. That's a whole different thing it's insane i can't wait i really wish that was for christmas but that's the whole thing so yeah i was excited for in sync i hope they're at the sphere i'm there for it and i don't know anything about the trolls movie but do you watch it no i've never seen it i don't like the trolls period i don't know they look ugly like they're not cute like the Minions. They're not. Let's wait till you see the movie because the characters that eat the trolls, they're really ugly.

Oh my God. Who are they? The trolls are the pretty ones. Oh my God. They eat the trolls? Basically, the trolls are like a drug. They're like a pill. Oh my God.

So if they eat the troll, they are happy for a certain amount of time. No way. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of promote drugs i guess but anyway it's dark it's a really weird movie but the songs are good the music is good oh my god they get you early with that i'm not about the trolls not at all um and then the other big thing in the vma is again that shady audience camp but poor selena gomez was going through it after god oh my god why was she so upset though she's, I don't want to be a meme ever again.

Was she actually upset or was she being funny? I think because people were like really like weaponizing her just sitting there to like make it seem like she was being shady. During Olivia Rodrigo's performance, there was like this big like spark flying. The stage was falling apart, but it was part of the theatricality. Oh, I did see that. Yeah. And then she's like covering her ears and she looked like stressed out.

But I think she thought everything was real. It's like the stage falling apart. Right. But people were like, oh, she hates Olivia Rodrigo singing. Oh, yeah, that's annoying. So people were using that. And then they were announcing

like the nominees for the category and Chris Brown was one of the nominees. And she went. And she, yeah, because obviously Chris Brown has a lot of stuff going on. And then other performances performances she was just like sitting there like she would check her phone

and she was or like during Demi Lovato like Taylor was like really into it but then Selena was just sitting there like nodding her head and it's like neither are like incorrect like you can just sit there or you can have fun and both are like are acceptable things yeah I'm surprised she was oh she's oh she does sing she's had a single scene out yeah

she seems just like in her own world. Like she's not in the Hollywood world anymore. I feel like those things probably stress her out because she doesn't do like award shows that often anymore. And they are like, they're a lot, you know, like sensory and everyone's dressed up and everyone's like judging you and stuff. Yeah. And I think she thought by just sitting there, no one can say anything bad about me. Right. Is that what she was explaining? Yeah. Oh, to me, I thought she thought by just sitting there, no one can say anything bad about me. Right. Is that what she was explaining?

Yeah. Oh, to me, I thought she said she was just because she was kind of reacting a little bit. I thought she was saying she's just going to sit there from now on. She doesn't want to be a meme. It's kind of both. Right. So she's like the people like the faces. But then it was like a lose lose because either you just sit in there like not doing anything.

You are disrespectful. You don't care. Yeah. If you react to anything. You are disrespectful. You don't care. If you react to anything, you're disrespectful. You know, so it's literally like a lose-lose. You're better off to just not go. Ariana Grande's sad. She's like, I'm not going. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure.

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All right. We are back from intermission. Part two. Sponsored by the Sweetener Foundation. Just kidding. Not sponsored by Sweetener. But we switched it up. I should have gotten a snack.

I had just a donut this morning. But we're back. Intermission. I hope you got a snack. I don't know. There probably was no intermission. We should start making commercials for our own products. Oh, yeah.

I probably will when the merch comes out. I'll do a commercial, insert it, have a little break. That's a good idea. Yeah. What would you make a commercial for? Do we have anything to promote for you? I'd probably just promote other people. So I got to promote Olivia's new album.

Oh, my gosh. I have nothing to promote. Wait, really? You don't brand? What am I going to promote? I don't know. I'm surprised you've never branded yourself because you've been around for so long. Are you not about being an influencer or anything like that?

No, I thought when I was younger, I thought maybe i oh i thought for a second i would like pre-co like right before covid i was like maybe i'll do like a twitch like i'll play video games on really make it girly kind of like i have a twitch channel that i've never used but i got like graphics and stuff made and it's all pink and i was like oh it's gonna be cute like gaming but then i never did it oh my god do you have like a pink gaming chair and stuff i have my whole gaming setup at my parents house is all pink oh my god you should do that what a vibe it's also very just trish coded you know what i mean it would be on brand yeah that's a good idea but it's just like it's so much work i don't know how you guys do it because it's like making content is hard it's just well it's so much easier when you have someone like you it's so fun and easy

for me now like even though i never edited like just like uploading and i don't know it was so stressful like even the podcast i did that last like three episodes before this like i would have to we would take all the footage i have to like upload it to a google drive which i never did in my life like it was so complicated i love that you're just here you take the cards it gets uploaded on the channel it's so nice and beautiful that's why anytime I text you about anything I just I'd be as nice and as gentle as possible if I'm like oh is it uploading because I just I know how much work it is I know how much I would not want to do it and I'm just like it's it's it's it's great it's the best thing I love like when it's like this oh gosh I could do this all day long I literally could do it every day

it's so much fun like I love it but yeah when you have to like do all the technical stuff or like i don't know yeah at least twitch is like live so you kind of just sit there and then when you're done you just walk away which is kind of nice you know god the idea of doing live scares me so much i know because it's like what if you just say something what if i don't know what do you do the bathroom we just leave yeah well you can put like a little like commercial you put like brb and then yeah like a little screen we tried twitch for like a minute but like i didn't know how you made money on there i don't i feel like they take the cut i think oh you were talking about this to keelan i think the cut is crazy on there they do take a lot of money yeah but i never got it period like i didn't know how you join you have to like get enough followers to like where you're like approved to even like start

making money on there oh yeah they have to like they have to like approved to even like start making money on there. Oh. Yeah. Like TikTok. They have to like manually like make your account like monetized or whatever. Because once they start letting you monetize for like your value, like TikTok has been so good with this lately. They did this new creator beta program and when I first joined it, I literally went from making like a couple thousand to like $100 a month. I was like, okay, this is like whatever. I really screwed myself.

But like I honestly make so much good money now. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it won't last forever. So I've been posting on TikTok like constantly and I forgot about my YouTube channels because TikTok, they just reward long format videos. Like I don't know. It's kind of where it's at now.

So I love when like a platform makes it easy for you to make money. Gives you what you're worth because TikTok was like, you know, kind of lacking in that category, but I do love TikTok. But now I'm like obsessed with it because now it pays too and i'm just like i'm just a tourist you know i just love to make money it's so fun so i like when like platforms pay for that so when i was on twitch i like the idea of it but i also don't like the idea of live with people knowing where you are at what time yeah you know what i mean like and like i don't want them to know that i'm home or not home you know like either way it sounds i don't know it doesn't

sound like my vibe this is so the reason this like just triggered this memory i remember like right before it was like right at the beginning of like um covid and then you everyone was talking about animal crossing and then you went and you got the animal that's my favorite that's like the only game i play i never played it i know you played it like one day like not even a whole like 10 minutes like i mean i don't even think I knew how to get off. Was it the one where you're like on a dock and you had to get off the dock? No idea how to get off that dock. Video games were never my thing.

I just – they're so confusing. I literally – that's like such a visceral memory like pre – like beginning of COVID memory. I don't know why I like remember exactly where I was watching that. Oh my God. I love that for you. It was historic. Lockdown, the beginning was actually amazing. I was making so much content, making so much money. That was the most money I ever made from like March, 2020 to like,

maybe like, I mean, it's to the end of 2020. I did really well, but like really those beginning months was insane. Like probably like March through like August were like millions of dollars a month. I was like, I never made that before. And I was, I didn't know what to do with it. That's what I'm buying rainbow Birkins and stuff. And I'm just like, okay. Like I did not know what to do with it. Like, again, thank God I got a house, but it was, it was a crazy time.

It felt like I hit the jackpot. I was like, God, what is this happening? So I was just, I don't know. I was just living life. I was just having fun in my house, making money. It was, it was a beautiful thing. And it's when we first met. So it was like a good time.

I have fond memories of it. I'm like, I would do another lockdown for a month so weird i know it's like it's weird because like it's being nostalgic about it too but because like it was a scary time for um like in general but it also i don't know it's weird that i kind of missed it too like that's similar like that's when me and my boyfriend met so it was just kind of cozy in a dystopian kind of way very much everyone the world has stopped. Like everyone's in their same position. Everyone's just online.

That's all you can be. So we're all together there. It is weird. It is like such a funny time that like will never happen again. Yeah. And it's cool. I don't know. I mean, obviously not what was happening was cool, but you're not going to get engaged

anytime soon. I think when he graduates because he's in grad school. So I feel like that's like a good time. Would you propose or he's proposing? I think I would propose because he's in grad school. So I feel like that's like a good time. Would you propose or he's proposing? I think I would propose because I'm older. Yeah. No, I just had the conversation with my hairdresser this morning and he was saying they broke up because they both wanted to get married, but they wanted each other to propose. Oh.

So he's like, he's waiting for me to propose, but I'm not going to. I'm waiting for him to propose. So they just broke up. What? And I was like, well, why don't you just propose? Like, just do it. Just bite the bullet. Yeah. And he's like, no, he needs to propose to propose. So they just broke up. What? And I was like, well, why don't you just propose? Like, just do it. Just bite the bullet. Like,

and he's like, no, he needs to propose to me. And I'm like, oh, I never thought about this. I never thought about that either. To me,

I've known, like, there's some gay couples where like one person proposes and then the other partner will do another proposal, which I think is cute too. that's what I said.

I think we'll probably switch at some point and do it to you, which is like, the way I would have proposed in a heartbeat to Moses if he's like, you can propose to me. I would have done it like right away. I told him I was going to, he's like, don't like kept saying, don't, don't, don't.

But like, I'm a God, if he would have said, yeah, I want you to propose to me. I guess tomorrow I would have done it right away. So I always think that's like so interesting. And they're like, so, and I said, what is it about it that you don't want to propose to him? Is it like, you want the cute photo? Like, you know, I don't know. You know what I mean?

He's like, no, because he wouldn't put the effort that I would put into it. So I was like, okay, so you set it up. He, you proposed to him and then like set it up for yourself like set it up for yourself you know set it up for yourself and take the photos and nobody would know any different you know I don't know maybe it's one of those things where there's other things going on that's like the kind of like when you're talking about Ariana you know like maybe that's kind of like the out maybe I don't know I don't I guess for because yeah for me if like to me I would do it and I think he my boyfriend would, he was like, he needs to come on one day, I think.

Cause he loves planning for things like years away. Like he has bookmarked like different rings already. He's like one of those. Yeah. You gotta show the ring. If you want to get engaged. I showed him like once or twice early on. I'm just like, this is the ring.

Like he's my boyfriend's very, very, very particular. Cause it's a big deal. Like a ring is like, you're going to wear it forever. Like it needs to be one you like. So I saw, was it Zoella and Elfie? elfie okay i thought they were i thought they were make married i don't know why 11 years yeah they have two babies i kind of just assumed they were married already i don't know why okay that's what i was gonna ask okay so literally no judgment at all and i really really mean it so i'm gonna like leave it up to you guys and i'll ask your opinion because i i honestly

don't know how i feel well i know how i feel about it and it's going to sound judgy, but I'm just like, okay, seriously, if this is you like leave a comment below because I really want to know. So if you, cause a lot of people do this and there's like nothing wrong. I don't think morally there's anything wrong with it, but it's like if you get engaged after being together for 11 years, you bought a house together, you have kids together. Like, is it still exciting to get engaged? That's a good question. Cause it's like, you've already done the life of like a married couple basically. Right. Yeah. Yeah. For me, the getting engaged was like, wow, this is the commitment, you know, like, oh my God, you're locked down now. Like we are committed.

And we, you know, like to me, that's like the big thing. But if once we got a house, like we got, we bought our house before I got married. So then marriage felt like, well, we already got a house. Like that's more of a commitment, you know, no one's leaving this house, you know? So I don't know. It feels kind of, to me and like as an outsider, just as an outsider, I'm just like, oh, that's like, I don't know. Like you're happy. I love proposals and I'm happy for them. But I was like, oh wait, like, aren't you already married? Aren't you guys already? I don't know. I think that's a fair question because too,'s like the you imagine like you said like the engagement is like the beginning of the next chapter almost but it's like they've already

kind of they've done like the whole married life you did the whole chapter yeah the domesticated yeah yeah so I always wonder that and but at least they get like the fun of like the especially because Zoelle that's a lifestyle girl down like she's gonna have like the wedding like I think her baby shower was really cute I remember seeing photos of that she's gonna have like the wedding like i think her baby shower was really cute i remember seeing photos of that she's very aesthetic very yeah so maybe that's like a whole at least she gets that part like the whole you know maybe like as an influencer like the content yeah because i always say this too like i would have just done a small we did a small hawaiian wedding but i would have just done that had i not been a content creator like i don't think i would

have done the big wedding because it's like so expensive and like, it is fun, but like you talk to everyone for like a second and it's like literally a second and that's it. You don't get to see anyone. You don't get to see your family. You don't get to enjoy the food. Um, like I just probably wouldn't have done it, but I, you know, you want the pictures for Instagram, you want the memory. And it is a cute memory. When I look back at it, I was like, Oh man, our wedding, you know, like it's a cute memory in time, like planning it and stuff like that. But I don't know. I think if I wasn't a social media person. So I wondered that too, with this situation, like if you're not on social media and you get engaged, does it mean anything to you? Does it, is it like special? Is it like, oh, you just wanted the ring. You just want the pictures. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know.

I should ask Lena because Lena the plug too, they did that. They've been together a long time. They bought a house together. They have a baby. They just got married like this year. And it's beautiful. I mean, and maybe you wait till you have enough money because not to say they didn't, but they have their wedding, like Lake Como, you know, it's like this beautiful, super expensive wedding. So maybe you wait. We're watching the ultimatum on Netflix. Not very good. It's really a bad show, but we watch it like here and there. And most of the people will say, I want to get married. I just want to wait till I have the money. So maybe people wait till they have. But Zoe and Elvie, they definitely have the money.

And why did you wait so long? Like, why 11 years? I literally just assumed that they were married. But I guess, like, who knows? Maybe it wasn't, like, important to them. But then they kind of just decided that, like, oh, like, why not now? You know? Interesting.

But because, I mean, for some couples, couples like the formality of like getting engaged or getting married isn't that big of a deal like it's more the actual like commitment of the relationship yeah um you know living together and like family and stuff and that's like perfectly fine totally i totally get like people say marriage is i get it like yeah i don't know it would be interesting have they said i don't think they've said anything right they shouldn't showed the ring yeah yeah that's it well they don't know. It would be interesting. Have they said – I don't think they've said anything, right? They showed the ring. Yeah. Yeah. That's it.

Well, they don't make content, right? They're not content. No. Zoe vlogs. She's still vlogging. Yeah. She still does pretty well. Because you did it for a minute, right?

She's been back for a while. No. But she's like really low-key. Go away. Yeah. She does lifestyle vlogs and she still does like pretty – I mean obviously she was like the biggest one for a while. That's why I would think back then they would get engaged because like that was the time yeah yeah you know big new yeah that's how i think in like a content

creator way i'm just like oh we'll do it while it's like hyped or yeah i guess she just chose like the i don't know she's they're so like low-key about it which is i think really cute it's like yeah it's cute that they're so like low-key about like their content and their relationship i don't know that's sweet yeah i think it's cool i don't know let It's sweet. Yeah. I think it's cool. I don't know. Let us know in the comments below if that's you. I would love to interview someone. Maybe I'll get Leonard or something on here.

Cause I would, I'm like, so I really am just so curious about it. I mean, again, whatever way it would happen, like if you know, would happen,

like I wouldn't have cared if we, I really did want to get engaged and get married, but even if it didn't, I would have been like, I'm happy to buy a house with you. I'm happy to have a baby with you. Like, so yeah,

I don't know. It's interesting. I think it's cool. I just, I wonder if it's exciting for them happy to buy a house with you. I'm happy to have a baby with you. So yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. I think it's cool. I just, I wonder if it's exciting for them or why they changed their mind or why it's so long. I don't know. Did you ever have beef? I was like, maybe so I'll come home one day.

I don't think I had beef with any of the British. I never, they never even crossed my mind ever about anything. Not in a bad way, but I knew they were massive. And I'm just like, English people in general, like British people just seem so far removed from us that I never think about them. You know what I mean? Which when I went to celebrity big brother and all of a sudden I'm just like English people in general like British people just seem so far removed from us that I never think about them you know what I mean which when I went to celebrity big brother and all of a sudden I'm like surrounded by all these like British accents I'm like whoa like it was a culture shock the way they act the way they talk the way they think is like literally like aliens like just a different breed over there and I couldn't I couldn't take it 24

hours a day just oh Trish Trish, go pulp it out. You're going to have to. Just a lot. And they would have slang where I didn't know. Like, I think cigarettes, they call the F word. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, I don't know. It's just like a lot.

It was weird. I don't know. Celebrity Big Brother was a weird time. Tiffany New York Pollard. Tiffany New York Pollard. You know her? Yeah, of course. From the new House of villains show we've

been jamming but she's very busy but um she commented on my donny asman photo with like star eyes i would love tiffany on this podcast uh she's a dream guest yeah i couldn't even imagine her here she's she looks good she looks so good yeah such a she was one of my biggest inspirations for doing celebrity big brother i was like i want to be in a house with someone like tiffany and of course they gave me they gave me no one they gave me someone from mob wives or something and i was like okay um yeah but i would love ariana wait did we talk about this what the ariana grande news hot topic oh yeah we should talk about that huh so speaking of ariana with this little look today we had to do a tie-in because otherwise why would i be wearing

this i don't know i just had this look in my mind for so long. Did you see her Vogue Beauty Secrets video? No. Did we talk about this? Did I? No. Did you? I don't think so.

Well, she was really cute in there. People were praising her because she was really honest about – Oh, the lip fillers. Yes. And Botox. Yes. And fillers in general, right? Kind of like injectables, yeah.

Because she was talking about her laugh lines, which I did not know you fill your laugh lines to get rid of them. Yeah. If I filled these laugh lines, I would look like I have a big fat face. How come you don't look fatter? I think we talked about this before about injections. Like how come you don't look fatter? Because you said – are we talking about your injections? Oh, yeah.

I don't care. You said you got your jaw done. Yeah. I have to get it redone. I don't know if it's still in there. Which is crazy. Yeah. I've gotten my jaw here and then chin and then yeah on both

sides and it makes it what more more defined yeah such a weird thing more of a jawline why does injecting your face look more defined because the the filler in here it's harder so it kind of just looks more like the bone of like the interesting yeah it is really interesting and i remember i'm not to like comment on ariana's like face or anything but i remember like everyone was commenting um that when she was doing when she was doing the voice like oh she like she looks so different people were like picking apart how she looked and speculating if she got worked on or whatever and then i think there was people just saying no like she didn't get anything done it's just like when you fluctuate with weight when you

have fillers and stuff it just like if you lose weight with filler, it just makes the filler more like apparent. So that definitely has a big part in it. So she had filler. Did she say where? She said full transparency as I do my lips. I've had a ton of lip filler over the years and Botox. I stopped in 2018 because I just felt like it was too much. I just felt like I was hiding.

And then she got emotional, which every time i get emotional i it makes my heart i don't know i have a soft spot for her oh the way you said it was like i don't know that seemed fake no i have a soft spot for her because i think she's very i think she's a sensitive person totally you know to be in the public eye and get that scrutiny about your looks all the time like no matter how confident you are like people constantly be like too much filler too much this you're too skinny like yeah you know mean? I, it must be a lot. Even if you love being skinny, there's people who like love that's their personality trait is being skinny, but it's still like a lot to hear all the time.

Yeah. I don't know. Especially as a child star too. Well, I think that's it. Yeah. People commenting. She said, since I stopped getting fillers and Botox, I was just like, oh, I want to see my well-earned cry lines and smile lines.

I hope my smile lines get deeper and deeper and I laugh more and more. I just think aging can be such a beautiful thing. But then she clarified like no judgment against people who do, which I think is, yeah. Yeah, but I think that's like not a bad thing to say because I do think you change your perspective a lot as you get older. Like, you know, when you're younger, you're so insecure. And like it was trendy to have like lip injections, but now it's trendy not to. Or people just like the natural look better.

So I think it's like good to say like what you feel. I feel like so many women when they get older, get their implants out. I'm going to get my implants out again. I'm trying to get pregnant. I'm not trying to have surgeries or anything right now, but I would totally get my implants out or at least removed. I don't want them to look saggy. I'd get them like smaller at this point. Um, but yeah, you're like a whole perspective changes. I also think as an older person, like getting plastic surgery, like it just scares me the risk of like losing your life from like complications and stuff like that like is it really worth it like maybe if you're really insecure about something but i always want like a tummy tuck in this i'm like but is it worth like not seeing my children grow up to have like a tummy tuck you know like yeah like connie's mom

that's so sad like she died during plastic surgery and it's like oh yeah you know i think that's it's so so sad that was always my fear even before getting implants i'm like i always heard about like girls getting done and done it's just like so sad. That was always my fear even before getting implants. I'm like I always heard about like girls getting done and done. It's just like so sad. And like the chances of it happening is probably not likely but it's still like do you want to risk it? You know? Like what's worth the risk? To me like childbirth is also risky but it's worth the risk to like have a baby.

You know what I mean? Is it worth the risk to have a flat stomach? I don't know. I don't – I don't know. It's like it's older you get. You don't care especially like when you're married and stuff and he doesn't care. It's like I don't know. I don't know.

Your priorities just shift I think when you get comfortable and also waste your time doing all that like it is a time-consuming thing for me like when i'm on vacation like i don't want to do my makeup because i want to like spend time with my family you know what i mean like i don't know i used to i used to always do my makeup on vacation and stuff like that but i'm just like no no yeah just like waste your time overall like getting your nails done sitting there for a couple hours every week you're getting your nails hair done it's like i don't want to waste my time doing that yeah and i think like if you find value like if people find value in it and that's like something that makes them yeah feel good like physically mentally do it yeah and i think i don't know sometimes you just

for me it's like it doesn't give me anything anymore you know like it's fun sometimes on occasion but like just on a regular day like i don't really care about doing it anymore you know um like i'd rather like you said i'd just rather be doing something else with that yeah but that's like you said priority shift because i always think about like young people who was it that i saw the other day remember i said someone i'm like oh tana she is everywhere she's like at new york fashion week like she just like i said when she did my podcast she's another podcast and i went to a concert and i was just like oh man like that's crazy but i mean i wish i was that busy that's what i was thinking about i was like i'm like oh my god like when i was like single and like i wish i was that busy you know what i mean like being busy all the

time like that does like feel so good but now i look at it like oh my god that's so exhausting which is like why i get i like i love her and i love like following her because i'm like man to be like young and really living your life, which is so smart. There's so many like young people, including me when I was in my 20s, I would just wait around, like literally wait around to like hear from a guy I was seeing. Like it was so weird. Like auditions. If I was a background actor on something, if I had the possibility of that guy coming

over that day, I would just like not see anyone. And I just like wasted my whole 20s waiting around for guys to come over. Like it's crazy. So I really do feel like my best piece of advice for young people is like, live your life. Like for real, because like, I love my life now, but it's like, really, you have no time to do anything like for yourself at all. Like, you know, it's crazy. So I was like seeing like Tan like at fashion week and then this, I'm like, gosh, she's ever a tour. I'm like, she's living the life. Like that's what you need to do when you're young. Yeah. It's so great. It's like, I don i don't know like that's like the lockdown thing it's so weird like

that time difference made like changed everything it's so weird because before like i it was a reset yeah like i care more about appearances or even if i was unhappy like looking like i was like i was happy you know what i mean like just appearing as if i don unhappy, like looking like I was happy. You know what I mean? Like just appearing as if, I don't know, like now I don't really. Busy and yeah. Like I don't really post or anything now. But like before then I would like get dressed up just to get an Instagram, you know, it was like that. But now it's just like, I don't really care.

Yeah. I feel that way too. When we like plan a date, it's like it has to be on a day where I'm already glammed for like work or something, you know? I'm like, okay, we can go out after because I look cute. But like I have to put makeup on. And so we went somewhere and I had to put makeup on. It was, oh, we went out to dinner with our Israeli, we're on Israeli TV.

And so we went out with our cast members and we went to Firefly. Have you been there? Oh, in Studio City? No. I feel like it's a very trendy spot. We went there. And I think that's where I started losing my voice because I was like shouting and stuff like that.

But putting on makeup and like going out when like you could just stay home. It's like, oh man. It's just like, it was fun when I got out, but it was just a lot. Like I need to be already fully dressed before having to like go out. You know what I mean? Yeah. But Ariana, we love that you're honest about your lip filler and bow tie. I like when people are honest about it.

I like when people are honest about if they regret it, if they like it. Like I wish the Kardashians were a little more transparent about their stuff. Yeah, I agree. You know, like Khloe being like, I had one nose job. I'm like, okay, wow. Like I wish the Kardashians were a little more transparent about their stuff. Yeah, I agree. You know, like Khloe being like, I had one nose job. I'm like, okay, well. And I feel like she's so real. So it's always like sad when.

I don't know. It's just weird because their faces are so documented throughout history. I know. Like why not be honest? And I feel like real is like what people love. Like people want to be like, they're so real. They're so real. And it's like, I feel like the Kardashians are in a perfect position to be like real, but they're just like not with that kind of stuff.

Yeah. Which is like kind of annoying. Because I guess Kylie was like trying to be real by saying she got her boobs done and she didn't like want it or something like that. There are very few things that you can be certain of in life, but you can always be sure the sun will rise each morning. You can bet your bottom dollar that you'll always need air to breathe and water to drink. And of course, you can rest assured that with Public Mobile's 5G subscription phone plans,

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Just from like the Barbie thing. That's the first time I heard about him. No way. I'm pretty sure about Ben Shapiro because he's a proud Jewish person. And I love Jewish men that are just like proud, that wear a yarmulke proudly like every day. Like I think it's, I think it's great. So I was like, I'm really into Ben Shapiro. I never watched the show, but like, yeah, then I saw the Barbie thing.

Then I realized he's kind of like ick. So we talked about like shaming SW, sex workers. And he literally just went recently. Who is the woman? Who's the, there's someone running for government. Yeah, I don't have her name. I can find her name, but she's basically running for government.'s someone running for government. Yeah, I don't have her name. I can find her name, but she's basically running for government. And then.

Running for government. What is she running for? Congressman? She's like a congresswoman or something like that. And she, and she filmed, she's like filmed live acts of her with her partner or whatever like that. And he's basically saying, and now it's like being used against her because she's running for politics.

And he's basically being like, oh no, like the stuff you filmed is like being put out there like boohoo for you and i was kind of like kind of a bad take but also like if you're getting into politics like do you think that if you did that kind of work in the past like adult work do you think it should be used against you fairly because like in one hand he's like oh boohoo like this is like being used against you but as someone who's done it it's like i don't think should ever be used to like weaponize against you no you know what i mean but he boo-hoo, like this is like being used against you. But as someone who's done it, it's like, I don't think it should ever be used to like weaponize against you. You know what I mean? But he's just saying like, oh, this is the consequence of your actions.

He's the one using it against her right now. Oh, he's the one that put it out? No, someone else put it out. No, but I'm saying by talking about it in that way, that's what's happening. So her name is Susanna Gibson and she's a Virginia Democrat. So yeah. So he was, because he was basically saying, well, if she did that kind of work, she'll do anything for money.

Oh yes. And that's what I was like. I think that's where you really lose the plot. Cause I'm like, I know you, you wouldn't do anything for money. Yeah. Like you're not going to sell. I do a lot for money. Right.

But creative stuff. Yeah. Like you wouldn't break the law for money. For example. Yeah. So he's like insinuating that she would not be a good Congresswoman because she did this like adult work and stuff like that. was just like you're missing the mark i also recently saw something about ben shapiro do you know do you know about ketubah it's in the

jewish okay so it's basically like in the jewish like faith if you get married to um in a jewish ceremony like basically it's like um like a contract so basically it's like if you get divorced you have to put in the ketubah how much you're going to pay the wife. Which I know says work for gay men, I wonder, because I know for in the Jewish faith. Wait, what? What? It's a religious thing. It's like saying how will the Catholic church do it? They don't. They don't marry. What? They won't marry a gay couple. No way. Yeah. If you're Orthodox Jew. Oh my God. Oh my God. T, I just found out. I'm so sorry. I'm so proud to be in a Jewish relationship, but oh my God, that's so sad. Well, there's so many different levels to it because I'm not Orthodox.

You could find a rabbi that may be like cool with it. What do they do in Israel? There's so much gay pride over there. Well, they get married in a different way, but there's like reforming Jews and the reforming, like I'm sure there's a rabbi in West Hollywood that does that. I don't know. Anyways, you get this, like, marriage, like, contract. And if you get divorced, the man has to pay the woman.

Even if the woman's the top earner, the man still has to pay the woman. And I was like, where was our ketubah? We didn't do a prenup or anything like that. But where was our ketubah? Well, we didn't have a Jewish ceremony with a rabbi. Gosh. I was like, dang, that's crazy. Maybe that's why women convert.

Maybe that's why they convert. I know. Because they want to get that type of wedding. Do you think Adam Sandler had a ketubah? Well, I'm sure he had everything. That and a prenup. But does it cancel it out, a prenup with a ketubah? My guess is he did have a Jewish wedding.

I mean, we met his rabbi. He did have a Jewish wedding. I know this because she converted. So that's part of it. I mean, we signed a document in our wedding. Well, just a marriage license. Right. But it's the of it. I mean, we signed a document in our wedding. Well, just a marriage license. Right.

But it's the same thing. No, it's not. We don't get, no one gets paid after any of this. No, but I'm saying this is the Old Testament marriage license, right? Because they've been doing this from the Bible days before there was government, before there was judges. I had no money in my account when we got married. I was going to do a prenup and then I was like, okay, what are your assets? I'm like, oh, I have none.

I just make a lot, but I spend it all. Like I literally was like nothing. Dang, I should have gotten the Ketubah sign. Actually, I drained him of the money because he had the good credit. I'm like, let's get that line of credit going to pay off this wedding. So that's what people don't understand. Like religion existed before government. So that's the old-fashioned marriage license.

Ben Shapiro, I think your takes suck on everything. I think he just tries to go viral. One time he used a clip of me, and it was just, like, literally, he literally had zero reaction to it. He just watched it, put it up, and it goes, ha-ha, wow. And I was just like, what? And it got, like, a million views. And I was like, you are a phony. I just think it's, like, a lot.

Like, I mean, love that you wear a kippah but i'm just like oh yeah he said he was gonna put 10 million dollars into the ketubah for his wife and then his dad was the the dad of the his father-in-law basically was just like she's not worth that much i'm like if your father said that father said that about me i'd be like what the heck so he put like half a million or something down into it and i was just like this is so random why was he even talking about that that's so random i didn't know part of this about the jewish faith i didn't know about the ketubah seems like very he told it just like a random story god i used to love him before i heard him talk i was like god i love ben shapiro but that's i mean it's normal because if you really dive into what the real

orthodox jews believe in there's things you won't agree with it just like we don't most jews in israel are not religious are not orthodox i don't. Most Jews in Israel are not religious, are not Orthodox. I don't know if that's true, though, because he is like posting content on Shabbat. Aren't you like supposed to turn off your phone and cameras and everything like that? For sure. He probably what they do is they go around it. They have it like automatically. Like you can set a premiere for Saturday.

If you do it on Friday, it's fine. But what about his merch? I thought you're not supposed to idolize anyone. Yeah, he definitely breaks the Jewish laws by that. We got him. You're also not supposed to have a TV in your house or an image. So the fact that there's people that worship, idolize him

is wrong in the Jewish religion. You're not supposed to idolize any human being. Interesting. Interesting. You got him there. I want to interview like real Orthodox. And not in a judgy way at all. I have so many questions of why Like when you can't have You have to have sex through a sheet, right?

Yeah, all the time or just when they have the period Oh no, you can't No, when you're on your period You're like in a separate room for two weeks Separate bed, you're not sleeping Separate room But then why do you do the sheet? I'm not sure about that one

That one is kind of an urban legend Wait, no, I think it's This is what i'm saying i want to have i would love to have jeff moses and cipora but they're not orthodox either because they're also on tiktok and i love them but well you have to have somebody of that nature to come on the show they have to make it a little bit right i need a real man but usually rabbis they do love to teach and talk we had a good rabbi on our Israeli show. He was really... He should be the guest.

I'd be down. Oh, by the way, happy Shana Tova. Rosh Hashanah. Rosh Hashanah. Wait, Shana Tova? Yeah. Rosh Hashanah is when you say Shana Tova. Oh, okay.

Happy Rosh Hashanah, Shana Tova. Hug some Mac. It's Happy New Year. It's a new year in the Jewish religion. So it's a fresh start. I hope you all had your pomegranate honey and apples because pomegranate's fertility so let's let's get it going i love it anyways all right that was our jewish segment of the day oh man i just see

bunch of people everywhere and i'm just like why you can bundle it into the straight main news that's what i'm saying he's's kind of straight-ish, right? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Is he very, very straight or you're just saying that? Like, you know. Like, I know he's married to a woman, but like, does that mean he's very straight?

We don't know. I mean, I think, I mean, everything about his views about the world are, is. Okay. Yeah. Maybe too straight. Maybe he's a little too. But I always think when someone's so straight and conservative and I feel like – you know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean we see it all the time too. There's always like – super conservative people, especially in politics. If you're going to like shame a sex worker, okay, then go shame every other conservative person that has a sex scandal. Exactly. You know?

So many. Do you remember that guy,ary condit no it was right before september 11 then it disappeared i don't know okay anyways that's all day i don't know i don't really know i know i'll get it not into september 11th okay that was a whole other thing i don't know why we went there but i guess it was on my list okay i feel like i need to ask you about the aliens that were discovered in mexico Oh my God! So cute. Love it. Which is like, oh, we were supposed to send you a picture on the way up to Vegas.

We saw the aliens too. We were going to send you a picture. The jerky or the real? The UFO was being taken down. Wait, what? Yes. Wait, explain. Context?

Okay, context. We were on the way past the alien jerky thing. There was a UFO being taken down in the middle of the street. Not in the middle of the street, off the street. In the middle past the alien jerky thing. There was a UFO being taken down in the middle of the street. Not in the middle of the street. Off the street. In the middle of the desert. Yes.

And it was before the flashing panels. And he's like, send this to Oscar. And I forgot to. And I took a picture. I took a picture and the picture was deleted. Not kidding. The picture was gone. And I'm being 100% serious because I took it.

I remember most people didn't take this along the way. i was taking them completely gone all videos everything's scrapped yeah the technology they have the aliens are among us but the corpse is in mexico or new mexico we need to know they did they did look like beefky. Someone sent me an email to not talk about aliens, though. Did I send you that? Yes. Everyone's like, don't talk about the aliens. But they mean the human aliens. I don't know.

It was weird. I was like, okay, sign. Oh, my God. We lost Oscar. I know. Oh, my God. Can you explain what was going on? This is big news.

This is big news. But I have no proof of this. So now I don't know what to say other than Moses being in the car. I had just woken up, so I was like, I'm kind of confused where we were. We were past the jerky. This had nothing to do with the jerky. And I think, Moses, you said something like, is it always being taken down? Because I thought it was like an attraction or something. But I was like, tell me. It's a building that's UFO-shaped, and the panels are like they were taken apart.

But no one could get up there. Like no human could get up there. Yeah. Like, I don't know. It was weird, but. It was weird because like, it's huge, right? It's like, if it was just part of the attraction, which I had never seen before, it wasn't part of the jerky attraction.

There's no way you could get those panels down. They were too big. They were too tall. Nobody was up there doing it in ladders. What? Yeah. It was crazy. And I meant to take pictures. I did take pictures and they're gone. They were too big. They were too tall. Nobody was up there doing it in ladders. What? Yeah, it was crazy. And I meant to take pictures. I did take pictures

and they're gone. There was like billboards along the way for the jerky. Yeah, I think that's a distraction. It was weird. To keep you from not seeing the UFO. Oh my God. If you guys are driving up to Vegas

from California, it was weird. Maybe we should drive up to see. It was so weird. Anyways, back to the story. That was wild oh yeah yeah we don't have the episode to be deleted too yeah no people do it's like the mgm thing happening

right now like all that's being taken down like people are like you can't talk about anything oh my god so do they find these real corpses so it was like a um they were from peru which i my my dad's from peru so we need to know is he in peru now your dad no my uncles are though yeah but this happened in mexico though it was like um oh but the aliens were from peru but they were gone in mexico but they're yeah because mexico remember how the u.s had like a congress hearing about the aliens it's mexico had like a similar one um and then so a scientist had um a journalist not a scientist a mexican journalist and a research like a alien researcher brought in these two non-human bodies and said like if you did the dna test it would prove that they're non-human did they do it it turned out to be a hoax like he's

yeah which i i kind of figured it would be a hoax. Like he's, yeah. Which I kind of figured it would be a hoax, but the part of me was really hoping it was real because they were so cute. They were very skinny, very petite. Okay, skinny, legend, love it.

Skinny, petite, big lips. I'm like, that's cute. Oh, I didn't see the lips. I just saw like an up angle. But no double chin on those. That's crazy. Why is Mexico always seeing the stuff no one else sees?

Like Guadalupe's down there, Our Lady of Guadalupe, Mother Mary. Like, they're always presented in Mexico. And, like, the Aztecs? The Aztecs are down there? Yeah, that's true. There's a lot of stuff going on down there. Which isn't real. The Aztecs are real? Is that where you're going? No, the Aztecs

are real. What was your story about them, then? What are they not seeing down there? No, I was just saying they have a lot of crazy stuff going on. Actually, I don't know anything about the Aztecs. I never remember that. Oh, my God. Well, so sorry to the aliens. When you saw your aliens, did they look like those little guys?

Yes. They did. Aliens look like that for a reason. It's like Jesus, the depiction of Jesus. He looks like that for a reason. It's like Jesus, the depiction of Jesus. Like he looks like that for a reason. Like someone captured this. Like there's a reason everyone has that universal alien sign, universal Jesus sign. They did look like this.

Yes. Were they that little when you saw them? No, they're always skinny. I'm trying to think for real. Let me think. They're tiny. I told you like the tooth and the alien, they're about this height. They walk in like this.

I'm serious. I am so serious. I know aliens are real. I know it. It's going to happen. Oh, my God. I would love to interview an alien for real. How fun would that be?

Man. Oh, my God. The Judge Trish alien exclusive would actually be tea. Because it's real. Oh, my God. God, there's so much to learn. What would be the first question you ask? I would ask them.

Oh, God, that's tough. What would be? You'd have to help me with the question. Like, what do they think of Ariana Grande's Sweetener Foundation? Would you do their makeup? Yeah. Oh, that's shit. Like, do they have their own economy?

Maybe. I wonder. In different planets, do they have different money? Oh, my God. Yeah. Interesting. I wonder how rich different money. Oh, my God. Yeah. Interesting. I wonder how rich they are. Oh, my God.

Aliens are so rich because they have the spaceships and stuff like that. And those have to be expensive. For sure. The technology. There has to be like an Elon Musk of aliens. I was going to ask about Elon Musk. But I'm like, let me not bring up Elon Musk. Moses told me that he can be controversial.

He's not always liked. And I was like, oh, I didn't know. I didn't know he was like a conservative like that. I was like, I just thought he was like a funny personality or something like that. I was like, oh, I didn't know. I didn't know he was like a conservative like that. I was like, I just thought he was like a funny personality or something like that. I was like, oh, okay. Sorry. No Elon Musk, unless he wants to come on the podcast. To address everything. Oh, man. Samsung Vision AI televisions transform screens into intelligent solutions from the shows that make us laugh to those that make us cry. Now, your TV knows you more than ever, whether it's reviving old memories with AI upscaling

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All right. So I guess it's like... Our serious hats have to come on. We always dread it. I know. You know what? It has to be done. I know.

I try to do videos on my main channel so it doesn't have to talk about on this channel. Because I'm just like. Sometimes. I don't know. To me. It's like this situation. Like the Colleen stuff. It's just like not drama.

And keep hearing it being called drama. And people capitalizing off of it. And you know, it just like bothers me so much to my core, like so much to my core. I feel like when it involves like children and stuff, how people just like over, like it just gets counted as like, oh, cancel culture is awful and cancel culture got her. It's like, like when I heard Jojo Siwan, how he does podcasts, like seeing like, you know, a lot of people were, you know, got hurt by this cancellation. I'm like, this isn't a cancellation. Like, it's just not a cancellation, period. Like, she left the internet and, like, I guess canceled herself. But it's,

like, there's so much, like, there's so much to this that, like, people just, there's no accountability. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's none whatsoever, not even an inkling of, like, okay, I hurt people. I'm sorry. Or, oh, man, this sucks. Like, I shouldn't, you know, like, even her line line of like, you know, where she's just like, you know, I'm not a, not a groomer, just a loser. Like she really could have just been like, Hey guys, like I was thinking in this mentality, like, I'm so sorry. Like I hurt people. Like, why can't you just give that like little bit of apology and closure to these people who are like still severely hurt by it? You know what I mean? And it's like to have your friend who is your

friend since she was 12 years old and you were 27, like defend you like this. And someone who's really well liked by children, by the way, is like, it's so, it's so frustrating. It's so unbelievably frustrating and like hurtful. And I don't even consider myself like, obviously like one of these child victims that were like involved, the people who were hurt, you know, the girl on the stage when she was 16, Adam McIntyre, the people in the group chat doing the tampon challenge like it's just crazy to me how this gets like swept under and almost like joked about I don't know it's just like weird I don't know here's the thing I think Jojo in general tries to be like super positive right and I think if that's the stance she was gonna have should have just like avoided talking about it and i i get like i'm

trying to get like her perspective on it right and i imagine like like you said since she was 12 years old growing up this like she's collabed with them gone on vacation with them she's been like a part of that whole circle so i know that there has to be like a sense of loyalty to them and then there's an element of like that can't be true because i know them and i know that they would never i know that she would never do that but there's just so much evidence that you have to like kind of set aside the person you you think you know versus like who they are and what they've done to other people you know there's that element to it which it kind of almost is like because they were friends at such a young age it it's like, it's almost as if it's like, yeah, you're so attached. You're so like, the only reason I use the word manipulation is because like,

I feel like I have kind of a unique like perspective on the situation because I was also friends with Colleen when this happened. And I did also feel some sort of like, oh, I know Colleen or like, she never brought this up before. I never seen her do this. Like, but the manipulation I felt by her and I truly do, and I don't use that term loosely at all. Like I, I really don't use manipulation like loosely, but I feel like I know I was manipulated and like, I think that's why I have so much anger still. And I feel like I, I see this almost with Jojo, like it's manipulation. She's saying, oh, these are all lies. Well, she wasn't there in the situation. She's not involved unless she was in these group chats or whatever like that, which I don't, she didn't say anything to.

But the only person who could be telling you that these are lies are someone that's involved. So Colleen and these people are involved. And I, how do I know this? Because she's telling me this. I'm like, oh, like, did you like, and I was so nice about it when I first heard this stuff about the pictures being sent to Johnny and, you know, allegedly to Adam, you know, I brought it up to her and she's like, oh my gosh, what? No, they were like your fans. Like they were sending me pictures. And I was like, guys, and sometimes I would do like one word response, like, okay, like such crazy lies when she knew that this was

like out there and then later confirming it to me. So it's no longer a lie. Like she confirmed this happened. So, but I was also manipulated. I was thinking like, okay. So I was like, you know, at the time I'm like, well, we should at least talk about it if we were, because she kept pushing to come back with the podcast. And when I started like really like listening to this stuff, I was kind of like, I don't know. And like, yes, being a skeptic, being her friend, being an influencer, yes, lies are told about you. So you're just like, okay, let me like hear more. But she was constantly pushing to like do the show. We're going to come back and show them. Like we don't, then she was like, yeah, we'll talk about it on the show was the first thing she said. Then she came back a couple

weeks later, like, let's not even talk about it. We'll just come back so we can show them like, look, we're friends, like this kind of stuff. And I was like, that's when it started feeling icky to me. Cause I'm like, why is she pushing coming back so much when she herself hasn't said anything? Me wanting me to be the first to put out there to test the waters to see how it goes. It was so manipulative. And I would just like really hate her so much for it because I was someone who's like, okay, maybe, maybe, you know, you know, and I was someone who's like, well, I don't know. Like, let me see what, you know, cause you just don't know.

You just don't know, right? The truth. But you just have to give in this situation, the space and the time for the truth to come out. And the truth has already come out about this. She was French with Adam when he was a teenager. She was having inappropriate conversations with minors about tampons, her sex life, divorce, all this stuff like that.

Like, those are facts. Those are facts. She admits it. She calls it being desperate. But no, you have this inappropriate relationship. So for JoJo to be like, oh, all these lies, like just discounting facts, you know what I mean? Like, yes, in a sea of things, there's probably lies, but when there's actual facts and no one's taking accountability or responsibility for it, it's manipulation. She's hearing it from somebody saying that these are

lies because there's no way, I don't believe Jojo is so egotistical to things that she knows what lies are when she wasn't in that situation, you know? So to be like, oh, all these lies and stuff like that, just crediting actual facts that are out there that have presented themselves is insane to me. It's crazy. And it just screams manipulation. And it's the number one reason I feel like everyone saw it is like, this is why you're not, you shouldn't be friends with a minor.

Because are any of Colleen's adult friends standing up for her or defending her? No, because you can love someone, like I'm sure her husband loves her. I'm sure her parents love her. And you can love someone and just know that they're in the wrong and let them deal with the consequences. Like Jojo, just like, you need to know this isn't the wrong, be there for them privately because you don't want them to like hurt themselves or anything like that. But to defend and call other people who were hurt by this, like victims, I'm like, that's so gross on so many levels. And I don't know 100% if I blame JoJo

because she's obviously hearing it from someone. And it's obviously a manipulation. And you are friends with someone since you're a child. She kept reiterating, since I was 12, since this, we became friends. It's like, that's the problem. That's the problem. You're the only one sticking up for this

because you met her when you're a child and you're believing all this stuff, which we saw in the swoop thing when Joshua talked about the JoJo situation, which is to me was just, I had like a sickness to my stomach. The fact that there was even this battle, which Josh supposedly said, allegedly said that he didn't want a part of, of like getting JoJo on people's side during that or like, oh, they're not talking to her because she's on things.

It's like everyone's a grown adult in this situation except for JoJo on people's side during that or like, oh, they're not talking to her because she's on thing. It's like everyone's a grown adult in this situation except for JoJo. So like even putting her in that situation, it's like when the worst kind of parents will make the kids in the middle of the divorce, which is not even their child. So it's even weirder that they were doing that. But it just like the whole thing is like so sick and twisted. So then she feels like, yeah, she has loyalty to Colleen because Colleen was there for her during this difficult time or whatever. It's just the whole thing was a lot. It was just a lot.

And hearing the situation about JoJo and how they were all friends with her, I don't know. No matter how mature a child is, hanging out with someone like that, being that close to someone as a child when you're not their parent or not related to them. And not a mentor, by the way. I should also say this. Some people are asking about the Big Brother, Big Sister program. Completely different. I think having like, you know, helping a child who doesn't have like a mentor at home, like of course those systems could be skewed, but like you're

designated, you're being watched, all this stuff like that. Like, of course that's like a different thing. And not everyone has the intentions, but I think in just in general, being friends or too friendly, even in that situation with a child or sharing this information about a divorce, information about any of this stuff is like, they're a child. Like it's the fact that Jojo was even like witness to all of that and like involved with all of that to that extent is like disturbing. And now we're like seeing it as an adult, how she's like defending this and how she thinks it's like totally okay. Like, because how he asked in the interview, this is how I met Del in a interview she did. He asked like, oh, my granddaughter who's nine would be a fan. And if she could talk to you, she would.

And Jojo's like, yeah, but the difference is me and, me and Colleen were friends. We became close friends. And I'm like, that right there is the problem. Like you wouldn't be friends with Howie's nine-year-old granddaughter, but you're thinking it's okay. Cause you guys are friends. How did you become friends? How did you have that closeness? Why it's this, you idolize this person. Like you obviously have these rose colored glasses on like there's so much wrong and it makes me sad it makes me sad for Jojo I'm not saying she doesn't want to be a victim she's not a victim but I just don't think she's clearly not realizing the severity of what Colleen was doing with these friendships at the very minimum with like people like Adam and stuff like that which is like so disturbing and I think Colleen knows it's disturbing hence why in her ukulele

she was like, not a groomer, just a loser. Like she's trying to make excuses. Like she knows she was in these chats. It was inappropriate, but she's trying to like count it off as something less serious than what it was. Obviously I was so like removed from everything. So I was like a consumer of like the media when, you know, back in the day when Jojo had just started coming out and doing all these collabs and stuff. And it makes me look back at that time of like, you know, everyone kind of consuming these videos. And for the most part, no one was really saying anything, right? Like they were doing videos and posting them on both channels, you know, it was a big thing. And no one really pointed out like that big age disparity. And especially now as in, as like, you know, in their 30s, like that is so

weird. And I think there is an element of like, not seeing Jojo as like an actual in their 30s like that is so weird and i think there is an element of like not seeing jojo as like an actual person right but as a character because she does have such a big personality and maybe that has something to do with it not on the colleen side but on the consumer side you know watching these videos and like kind of like endorsing that like friendship and not questioning it just like an element of not saying jojo as like an actual person because she's loud and she's big and she's doing music and she's wearing these crazy clothes of course like it was right before when we did hot topics we were talking about jojo or last week we're talking about jojo and we kind of said same with abby like she is like whenever she talks about abby

she's very positive she went to go see abby in the hospital you know she does tiktoks with abby abby talks positive about jojo there's also like a weird dynamic there too and I don't know like I do I feel bad because I know that Jojo is like genuinely believes this stuff and like is trying to be positive or I feel like she genuinely believes this stuff and is trying to be super positive but I think I don't know she fully realized like the people she would hurt by making comments like that like to kind of like diminish people who do have a lot of trauma because of the stuff that she was doing and also i think adam tweeted like you were trying to say that she wasn't doing any of this stuff because you befriended her at 12

years old when you were a fan it's like yeah it's literally the same situation i mean all her fans did that they all like the one the one that started this whole thing was it cody um they were like you know they were defending colleen when the the adam situation came out because like you idolize someone you're there and then you're also close on top of that like of course you're gonna like want to defend them and stuff like that and i and i have to like also preface like you know collaborations with people because people say they're in the same field and stuff like that because i did a collaboration with jojo too and i didn't anymore after that because it was kind of like a weird, YouTube's such a weird thing because you're not acting with someone. Even acting, I think it's

like bizarre for child actors to do adult scenes with people. I get it. It's like more acting. But when you're a YouTuber and you're just like going to their house, like it does feel like her mom was there when I was there. But it just, it still feels very, I don't know. I don't know. It's like, because it's almost like what's reality. I don't know it's like because it's almost like what's reality I think because she invited us to New Year's Eve with her and I didn't go but the guy I was dating did at the time with like and he had kids or whatever and so it's like whatever but it just feels I don't know it almost feels like this blurred line because I'm like okay well I'm not gonna go hang out with a 15 year old you know what I mean and again when you have kids it's

different of course so I'm not like saying anything there but it is it is kind of weird I think when you were saying like she goes on vacations with them and stuff like that I'm like okay as a like a child like as an underage person like I don't unless you're friends which she didn't have kids at the time so unless you're friends with like her kids I don't know I just even then like I don't know it's it's very bizarre anyways regardless of the situation it's obviously no matter what, I mean, there's a weird dynamic when you like are sticking up for like someone that had this relationship. And I don't know her relationship with Abby. Obviously, they were a dance teacher and student. I don't know like if they were friends or she says they were friends or anything.

But the way she talks about Colleen is like we became close friends. And it's just like that's just like not normal. And it's – I don't know. It broke my – it really made me sad on so many because she also said, you know, it's a cancellation. Everyone's getting hurt by it. People are capitalizing. Got like, just really downplaying it as if it's like, oh, poor Colleen.

When in fact it's like, there hasn't been enough. And I feel, and I think Adam even said it, you see, you know, an apology goes a long way. Like he would just be done with this chapter if she was just like, could apologize. And like, should you have to ask for an apology? No. Cause does it not feel sincere? But it's like it's like at least acknowledging like damn this wasn't my intention but like and i know people hate those apologies but that's better than nothing it's like saying this wasn't my intention like i see it's like wrong to make that statement so it's like no but now it's like this blurred line where it's like oh no it's okay

we can be friends with our favorite influencer that's 30 and married it's like no it's you know it's weird i don't know i guess because she was friends with like joey and like i know who joey and daniel are as people like at the end of the day like i know who they are as people and like know their goodness you know so it's like i had like a speck of wanting to believe and then she had her like you said she had her chance with like the ukulele right and that's what it was it was like after that like you said like the making the jokes you reminded me how much i hate that line i'm not a groomer i'm just a loser like to kind of make yourself seem like oh i'm just relatable like i had no friends my age and you know i just had to befriend people who liked my stuff like you're grown or someone else when they said they're like oh i was just desperate it's like

that doesn't take away from you doing icky things like you're – no, call it for what it is. It's inappropriate at the very least. I think you're right about the situation with JoJo. Like growing up and I also think there's an element too of I think even when she was underage, she didn't see – I think she always saw herself as an adult because of how much she worked and stuff. And I think that's why I kind of feel bad because I feel like there has to be, like I think as she gets older, maybe she'll like learn stuff. For sure.

I think when you're like 30, 40, like you see child stars now that are like 35 or whatever. It's just a different perspective when you have a different life perspective and you're like, oh, like, because it probably is fun. Like, and she does seem like she's having fun and I probably would have loved it too.

It's like, but there is something about like having a child work so much. And it's like, I don't know. It's like, I get it. Like it is fun and exciting and like it's better than maybe you don't want to go to college or something, but I don't know. It's like the Jojo thing is tough and it's like sad. And I think the situation, I was just like, I was shocked that she even like, that was the take.

I was like, whoa. I don't know. I think a lot of people, when stuff was coming out, like wow like jojo probably has some stories you know and i just never thought that she would say anything because i think that too is like like you're saying joey's friends with her and stuff like that like i think there is a chance like people didn't like for me i genuinely did not know i remember the first time or the last time we went there like 2020 in december or whatever after i had my baby like she she's like, oh yeah, Reddit hates me. I'm always getting canceled. And I was, I was genuinely so confused. Like most of us, and I'd ask her, I'd be like,

why do people hate you? To me, she was like, I'm problematic, wholesome. Like I, that's, I didn't know anything about Miranda. I didn't know about anything. I just thought, oh, she's just this like goody girl. Like I just thought she was like a goody two-shoes girl, just like sweet, whatever. Like that's always my image of her. Maybe because I didn't know anything about her, but I was like, oh, she's always been in a long-term relationship. She's just that person. And then she would tell me like, she'd always just tell me like one incident with, you know, Adam about the underwear. Oh, like, you know, like it became this thing that wasn't, and I, I still had no idea what it was. And then when I watched that whole situation, I'm like, okay,

that's weird too. And she was like downplaying it. Like again, saying like, oh, he wanted underwear. We like sent it to him or whatever like that. But it was like, no, you offered it. It was anyway, it became a weird thing, but I had no idea she was problematic. And like, I feel like for me, I'm like overly telling people like, oh my God, I'm like, you know, there's this, this and this in my past or whatever. But she didn't tell me like any of that stuff, which I thought was like weird. She was concerned, like going to her podcast people because she, they didn't want to lose ads because of me. But she's acting like I was the problematic one. And I was just like, girl, you knew all this, but she always said like, we're going to get

canceled. I'm going to get canceled. Like it's going to, right. Like, I mean, it always was very much that. And I was like, so confused, like from even the first episode, are we canceled? Are we canceled? Like we canceled it or something. And I was like, girl, what did you do in your past that you're so, because I'm a pretty

cancelable person. And I was just like, we're fine. We in your past that you're so, because I'm a pretty cancelable person and I was just like, we're fine. We're not doing anything wrong. Meanwhile, all this shit. I was like, what? Still to this day. Also, she knew, I mean, somewhere in the back of her head, she knew that those photos exist, those text messages

about you. So I think it's just like, I don't know. I still don't understand how you go and work with somebody when you know that is there. Because the first, the mukbang in December 2020, she was's just like, I don't know. I still don't understand how you go and work with somebody when you know that is there. Cause the first, the mukbang in December 2020, she was very much like, oh my God, I feel like you're going to cancel me. Like, oh my God, if it ends bad, are you going to, it's going to end so bad. And like all of a sudden that night, I remember saying in the mukbang, like girl, like there's,

I'm not in that era of my life. Like I'm not trying to like ruin you or cancel you. And it's like weird. I was like, oh wait, she's like weirdly manifested it, but it's not manifesting. She like knew all this shit. And I'm telling you, it's like the biggest struggle. And I really try like even a swoop thing, like full disclosure, I didn't watch like the entirety of it, but I was just like, because it's so, it's the most bizarre thing.

It's the most bizarre. Cause she would say that stuff like, oh, like, you know, it ends, it's going to end so badly and stuff. And I'm just like, what a weird thing to say and like it ended the worst of anything that could possibly end but because of your actions that you said about me like you couldn't have possibly forgot that you said all this crap about me there's just no way like i get not like remembering oh my god did i say something about like kathy griffin or something but it's like there's so many texts and it's repeated and it's multiple times and it's all this stuff. I'm like, what? It's so weird.

Yeah. Because it wasn't just like a one. We saw that it wasn't just a one off thing like in the screenshots, you know. It's like multiple pictures. Because at least like the like Brianna, like that was like obviously like a one time thing. Right. And like we now she's apologized for it. But that was such a long way.

Like it's such a long way. The apology she gave me after i made my video after i found it out was literally like that's the most insulting thing and i was just like what the heck like but then on top of that giving me an apology but not anyone else that like you've like actually affected like adam clearly had a lot of issues with this still and like it's obviously there's i think her name's becky i think it's her name because i see it on my for you so becky i see her um tweeting a lot about it too. So still messed up by it. So just be like, you know, on one hand, she's saying the show wasn't for kids. And the other hand, she's like, well,

16 or what? I don't know. It's like all this stuff like that. So it's like, just say like, you messed up. The show should have been over 18. This is like, you know, like, I'm sorry this happened. Like, I don't know. It's so, so weird for me because now it's now it does kind of snowball into everything else and it's just like okay i don't know yeah and then the swoop video with joshua too kind of i don't know i feel like it just kind of affirmed a lot of things that we already kind of knew you know so like you said when they're talking about jojo and how like a child with divorce she was when that element is super weird joshua even said like they love that you know jojo would give them more followers and like you know

expose miranda and colleen's like more of jojo's audience which are kids which is like and obviously like that i mean no matter what that's true like you're not collabing with like this child i mean maybe maybe she just likes to be around her i don't know but like you're collabing for more followers and kid followers which i always thought that was the other thing i was just like oh these are like actual children watching her when i saw you know what i mean like you don't think about that but she had to have known that so it's like okay you're your character is not for kids like jojo was saying like it's a comedian so like that but then you're befriending someone and getting all these kids but then she knows it's kids because she's in a group chat

with kids and those are her fans yeah and. And there was clearly adult fans like Johnny. Like, go be friends with people who are 20 years old. Like, why are you befriending, like, the young kids? Like, it's so weird. Yeah. Or the fact that he said that was like, I don't know. What also, like, really creeps me out, I hate, and it's kind of, like, was reiterated in, like, the Joshua interview with Swoop, was when they were, like, talking about what the group chats name was were and like one was

like the cookies i was like that is i'm sorry it's so inappropriate so inappropriate i don't like these little names that she gave and i know adam i figured out which one adam was in but adam always talks about like the weenies okay weird i'm like every time i find out more stuff like this i'm just like what yeah like. Like it feels, it feels dark. It is dark. First of all, even if it was a lighthearted thing, but it's like,

it always, I always just think like the story Adam tells about going to Dublin to see her and have lunch with her. Like she's married to her second husband, has her assistant over there. She's in her thirties. Like, how are you having like a 15 year old,

like meet up with you? You know what I mean? Like you're going, you're inviting them to lunch and then like telling them he was too late. Like so bizarre. Like I couldn't even imagine like having a 15 year old like come to lunch with me. Like what?

In another country. In another country with your husband. Like that's bizarre. That's the most. And I can't grasp it. I can't grasp it. The other stuff that Joshua kind of talked about in the soup interview too. I feel like like you said just kind of like reaffirms who Colleen was like behind the scenes.

Obviously, kind of alleged because we only have Joshua's side, but Joshua talks about how Colleen was DMing other men on Facebook and how she allegedly was cheating on him with her current husband because they met on set of Haters Back Off. I just feel – I don't know. I know. It's like the – I mean here's the thing, right? Like is it super relevant to like everything else that's going on? No. I guess it's more of like a character thing to kind of just show like where her kind of like the line of morality was there. I think in a way I don't love that aspect of it because it just takes away from like some really serious shit, you know, like being friends with minors. Like that's the big issue here.

And I feel like with Johnny, like it totally hurt people taking it seriously when he just starts like, you know, you just start adding stuff in there just to add stuff in there. You know what I mean? It's like I think it just takes away a little bit. And it's like, he has every right to talk about this, obviously, but it's almost like just taking away. And at some point you're just like, okay, I get it. It's like, you know, there's, there's a lot of shitty things about her, but it's like, let's focus on like the actual criminal stuff, which grooming should be criminal. Like you're, you're talking to fans for a reason. You're telling them this information about your divorce for a reason. You want them to that's that's what it is it's like you know

you're like you're manipulating them that's grooming it's like being friends with minors to manipulate them and there's also other stuff and they're like abusing them and stuff like that but it's like so that's what she did and that's what it is you know just it's so just take it away i don't know it's like joe is the living example of what people are saying is wrong in those relationships. True. Because having her say those things now is exactly what all of those kids did before. Yeah. And now we actually see it.

You see it in action. Like this, here you go, the proof. Because I wasn't like, I was like, oh, groomer, not a loser. I'm like, okay, you know, because groomer used to be a big word about jest. My mind didn't even cross to that direction of like, oh, it's actually really manipulating people to act on your behalf and do all those things. Pretty much brainwashed. In my mind, brainwash used to be the word. Right.

So brainwashing a child is grooming him. So Jojo is brainwashed, groomed into that. And we actually see it. Yeah, it's definitely that. It's definitely like you feel like you need to protect like your parent or something like that so i feel like there's so many like bigger things i mean i i like adora soup i think her like editing style is good i think her research is good and like you know the video it brings entertainment but i just like hope it doesn't like take away you know what i mean because it's the same sort of thing as like

painting someone as like a like a bad person like you know, it's not painting bad or good. It's just like this person did like some really messed up stuff and is not being held accountable for it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Back then when Joshua was going through the divorce, like he was like silenced because of the manipulation that was going on. You know, like he couldn't say anything because they were – Colleen just was so like ingrained in all the young fans and had them so passionate so i do see that element to it as well yeah he seems stressed talking about it which i felt more for him because i'm like to relive something like this because i think he's married now and stuff like that it's like it's

just like a lot and like unless he saw something like inappropriate to like i don't know like children or something i don't know i feel like it's just more i don't know like children or something i don't know i feel like it's just more i don't know it seems like a lot of stress just for him i don't know i'm maybe not maybe he felt better getting it out there but i know he was really nervous like i never talked about this i'm scared of her i'm all this stuff like that so i'm like i don't know i think it must especially because his um wife also like released a statement via swoop um and it seemed like she also holding everything in like really affected the like marriage too because they were going through so much and he josh was

battling a lot of stuff because as a result of like the aftermath of such a messy like divorce so at least i hope that just having like the platform for you know those three hours like helps them just kind of like get the closure i guess you know totally yeah no i mean definitely talk about what you need to talk about but um the shane stuff was really weird in that did you see that part yes i saw it and it's like to me because here's the thing like i did not know her that well and i just she would talk crap about josh but to me it's like is that kind of normal to do when you're in a breakup right like anytime I broke up with someone I always talk so much crap to the person I think

the situation are you talking about the honeymoon thing yeah where she's like texting him that they like he was like in fights and abusive and yeah he's like we were totally fine but I think soup even said like I would love to get Colleen's perspective on this because this is very like there has to be another side to this. It's interesting she would talk to Shane about it. I don't know. Maybe they work. He seemed to be friends with everyone but I don't know. To me it's like if she

just made up a story like it's kind of weird. Yeah. It's hard without. That is something where you kind of do need that. I mean you always need the other side but that particularly because it is so like. Because what? Like that's so weird. It's like gone girl you know like yeah but like i said i think to me it's like it's not really her talking again i like probably saw her twice before 2020 like i think i saw her two or three times and like literally yeah she would like talk about how awful it was. But like I think that's like normal, right? That was.

Do you think though that like she – I forgot where I saw this. But then people were saying that she also like back then was like using you. Yeah. Again, I don't want to be like – because it's like the Adam situation where I'm like I didn't like Josh for other reasons. But he did. He said something about like couples who always like vlog. You know, it's fake what they do. And at the time I was dating someone who we were just like vlogging and i and

i took it as him like and that one really was all on me like i at that time i didn't feel any loyalty to colleen i think she reached out to me after and was like maybe told me stuff but no that was about something else he was talking about i like again not to pull like i can't remember but yeah you know i don't remember too much I just remember like he did say something about couples who vlog together every day. Like they're so fake. It's not real. And maybe I took it personal. Maybe he wasn't talking. It sounded like he's talking about me because I was in a relationship with people questioning if it was real or not and stuff. So it kind of felt like that, but I did go off, but I go, I went off on a lot of people, but that one had nothing to do

with Colleen. Cause I didn't tell him he would just like, weren't close like that. There was no thing in my mind where I'm like, I'm going nothing to do with Colleen. Because I'm telling you, we just like weren't close like that. There was no thing in my mind where I'm like, I'm going to attack him for Colleen. You know, it's like, it was probably just maybe somewhat of an unwarranted attack because I just saw something that triggered me. But yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't that. But yeah, but, but I think after that she might've told me just like, oh yeah, he was awful and this and that. But I did a collab with Josh before I even met Colleen.

So he was just a YouTuber in my like head or something. I don't know. I don't really have any thoughts either way about him like good or bad. I think at the time, like I said, I was attacking just anyone I felt attacked by. So it wasn't anything. You were quick to go off back then. Give me like a second I was on it. You know what I mean?

And it's like thank God for like a moment. Like I do have to take a moment. Even mean? And it's like, thank God for like a moment. Like I do have to take a moment. Even with the JoJo thing coming out, I gave it a moment. But it was something I felt like sick to my stomach. If I feel sick to my stomach, I have to like make a video about it. And I hope it all goes away. I hope it just like stops. But I don't know.

I think the only way it would happen is if she's just like, because she will come back and people forgive anything, which if you want to, you know, whatever. But it's like, just own up to something. It's like Woody Allen too. He recently said something like, I don't believe in cancel culture. It's like, yeah, I guess he's not feeling it because people aren't like boycotting his movies. And like, to some degree he's right.

There's no cancel culture because he's still making movies and actors are defending him. But it's like, but acknowledge what you did was so icky and so gross. You married someone that you knew as a child. You're so icky for that. And when people say nothing, it makes me so mad. Woody Allen especially. And I loved Woody Allen. He was my Twitter bio for so long.

I always said I was a mix between Woody Allen. I loved Woody Allen. Love, love, love, loved him so much. And probably because I had issues with myself. I was like, oh, I want to marry someone like that or whatever. But now seeing him, again, it's getting older type of thing. I used to defend him so hardcore. I didn't know the extent of it, but I was like, I don't think there's anything wrong

with that. Like, I would love to marry. Like, I used to think that. But now, like, as a person 35 with, like, a child, I'm like, you're so disgusting. And, you know, they do get away with, like, they, you know, people just, whatever. But for me personally, it's like, acknowledge it. Especially because like you were so involved. You know what I mean?

Like acknowledge it. Woody Allen can hide because he's just old and no one really cares anymore. He's not in the height of his career and stuff like that. But like you hurt so many people. The Colleen one, there's so many people who were hurt by you. Like acknowledge it. Especially just the children at the end of the day. Like me, who cares?

I'm an adult. You know, Josh at the end of the day is an adult. And it does suck. I'm not taking that away but like these children who are still clearly affected by it i see becky tweeting all the time i see adam you know talking about all the time like there's some real shit you should own up for you know yeah and it gets brought up you know with the soup thing it's like it gets brought up and it's almost it almost is like triggering and of course triggers are your own thing to figure out you know you need to figure out how to handle them it's not anyone's fault but, but it's like, I get so upset. The Jojo made me

just so upset. And when they say stuff like this, she's not the first influencer to say it where it's like, oh, people are capitalizing off. It's like, no, people are talking about it. People who have a platform who's like, this so happens to be their job are talking about it because it's like something that's so real and it needs to be talked about. Like I could talk about anything and make money. You know what I mean? But it's like, you can't just write off as like oh people are capitalizing i was like no people are like raising awareness about it and keep talking about it because people think it's completely normal apparently and like i said she's not the first influencer to say this to be like oh i think it's gross so she made some mistakes so it's like this it's like that's that's

so what is what is wrong that's what's wrong with the world it's like that people do think this is so normal including me i saw things like woody allen's relationship is wrong? That's what's wrong with the world. It's like that people do think this is so normal, including me. I saw things like Woody Allen's relationship and being like, that's what I want. I want to aspire. And I'm sure if I was a child and saw people being friends with their favorite influencer, I mean, that's what I did. I would go to Michael Jackson's house hoping to be friends with him, you know? But you've talked about over and over again, like this is not normal.

This is not normal. You shouldn't have friendships with your underage fans. shouldn't you shouldn't idolize people you shouldn't it's it's manipulation whether you see it or not and clearly jojo doesn't see it but it is you can't say something is lies when you weren't there you're hearing it from another party which is manipulation just point blank to say like it's not lies when there's proof you're manipulated that's it yeah it makes me so curious about the conversations behind the scenes you know for jojo like you said for jojo to be to be saying that those are lies so obviously someone told her so and i know i know how it goes i know how it goes because i was in it for just a short amount

of time and it was so stressful i was so sick in june i didn't get my period for like two months so my hormones were all thrown off like it was it was so beyond stressful because like, yes, you want to believe this person that you're friends with. And like, you know, you think is a good person and she comes off so sweet. Like she, I remember when I first heard about the supposedly like made fun of my weight, sent pictures and stuff like that, like weeks before it came out, I remember just feeling some type of way and I didn't respond right away. And she kept sending me voicemails. I was like, oh my gosh, did I lose you? Like, are you there? And it just like took a full day for me to like, and again, I'm just like someone who's like, I didn't want her to like do anything bad to herself.

Right? Like I, like she's like, you know, I don't have anyone and everyone probably hates me. All my friends probably hate me. They believe this stuff, you know? So, so she's like, everyone, you know, is like not talking to me, whatever. So I just thought, ah, so she's like telling me it's not true she's telling me all this stuff and then on top of that saying that stuff and I remember that specific one where it was like oh no did I lose you and I was just like uh yeah so it's like I know this situation and I wanted to like cut

ties and it was so hard and we always knew we always knew the podcast wasn't coming back like it always was that but she wanted it to come back so bad and wanted all this stuff to happen and just, you know, blow over. And I just, um, so I know that situation and I know it's like really tough, especially when you're so young and you're connected to the whole family. She's connected to the whole family. I'm not connected to, you know, any of them, you know, at all. And it was, it was constant. It was all throughout the day, every day, you know, just getting voice memos, like so

many throughout the night. And like, and in one way you do feel for her, right? Like, like I'm saying in like Jojo's situation, right? You're like hearing this anxiety. I could hear it. Voice memos all hours of the night saying, you know, she doesn't, she can't eat, doesn't see her kids. And like, and probably a lot of that is true. I'm not saying that's a manipulation tactic, but you're just like, well, I don't want this person to like hurt themselves. You know what I mean? Or, you know, with the kids and all this stuff like that. So as someone as an insider, that's what I'm saying is someone isn't like someone who's

like close to you, like Jojo or any of her family, like be there for that person, but you can't make excuses. And all I could think of is like, how am I, how do I go about this? How do I say this? Which is why I always say stuff like her friends. I don't think necessarily need people always are like, well, if you don't say anything, you're part of the problem. But it's like, if you don't know the full situation, like you shouldn't talk about it anyways. And I, I just didn't know the full situation. Cause she clearly wasn't telling me, I don't know everything that happened in those group chats. It's like, sometimes it's like, it's not your place to say something about someone. So I don't like that whole attitude

is if you say something, you're complicit. It's like, that's not true. You just, you don't know how to go about it. Do you want to make it a drama? If it happened to like the closest person to me, like my sister or something, you know, it's like, you just don't say anything because it's like, what do you say? Right? You want to be there for the person. You don't want to like just come out and publicly bash them. I think people show over time their signs if they support someone or not. You know what I mean?

So I don't know. People just demand so much from people. And it's like, sometimes that's just like not for me. It's like, I don't know. I was working closely with her. So I'm like, what is the move in this situation? And I feel so strongly about it. That was the other thing. And that was a battle I had so much with Moses. Like this is something, cause even stuff he didn't know. Cause right, like grooming and stuff like that. Like if you're not, if you weren't groomed, if you didn't go

through this stuff, like it is hard to kind of see what these kids are going through and stuff. So I would have this battle with like Moses. because I'm just like, how do I say something that I feel so strongly about, but also want to make sure she's just okay as a human being and dealing with the repercussions later. But that was completely hard for you to kind of go through and navigate this whole situation. And because I didn't know what personal triggers you had, you know what I mean?

Like from going, having experiences like that in your own personal life as a kid we'd have like lengthy conversations in the car and i'm just like that that is that is grooming that is what it is and i didn't realize it until i was in my 30s so it's such a it's such a difficult thing and now of course i'm outspoken about it and some people don't like it or whatever but it's like i I held back so much. I was manipulated so much. I didn't know about a lot of stuff. And then the day I did let my personal friendship kind of like almost blur what was happening. And now I see it so clearly.

And I'm thankful for that. And some people, if they want to say it's too little, too late, whatever. But it's like I don't think it's ever too late. That's why I think like if JoJo 10 years from now had something to say about it, it's like, of course you're going to have a different perspective. You know, you're going to see things completely different. And then once I found out she lied to me, that's when I really was like blinders completely off. And I was like, oh my God, like I was manipulated. I was lied to. And it just really, it really, really sucks. And this whole situation sucks. And it's like, if I can be another loud voice in this, like I will. And I feel like the apology didn't mean anything to me.

It would mean more if it was to these people who clearly – and Becky is not even an influencer. Adam, this is his job. That's what I'm saying. I don't go too hard on anyone because it's like it happens to be his job. This is something that's relevant to him. But Becky, this is not her job and she's obviously going through a lot, you know. And so I just – or those other girls in the group chat or anything. It's just like – it's a lot and people are scared.

People are always going to be scared because someone with a large following that has this loyal fan base – and she does still have a loyal fan base – will attack people. I've seen it happen in my life too where people like attack people who try to stand up for me or whatever or have similar experiences. Like people just get attacked. So people get scared and I get it. What a saga. What a saga. And it's gosh i know i don't know it's very on brand that you ended up being a part of this

i know it's just so crazy like right before i think that kicked off my this drama trish coming this drama train happening right now no pun intended because i was so just trying to stay and honestly i didn't even want to say anything because it's like i was all about not saying anything there is power in saying something you know that's why i've always gone back and forth with not defending myself and stuff like that because at the end of the day there is power in like defending yourself and sticking up for other people and stuff like that and i and i hate that when like being called drama for it it's's like, no, like there was a very serious thing

that happened and now it's like, I need to talk about it. It kind of sparked something in me to just keep talking about this. It's like, well, I have a voice. I can handle my emotions better. People listen a little better now that I can control myself and stuff. And so picking and choosing.

Your perspective is very valuable too. As someone who you've gone through similar experiences like being like a victim of grooming, you have experience with the person who you know everyone that is doing all this stuff and then so i feel and you have a platform so it's kind of like the perfect storm yeah um like your perspective i think is valuable yeah for the most part people see that and the people who don't can fuck off right IMO what's IMO what is it oh I was like oh my god that was like HOMO or something I was like oh my god no hopefully that's the end I hope it's the end I don't know I feel like she's made enough money she can just you know retire I don't know she doesn't strike

me as a person to just like let that be her legacy you know i feel like yeah i i feel like there would be an attempt and it kind of doesn't have to be i think if you can like own up to it there's like a little bit not redeeming for me or probably a lot of other people but a little bit you know like a little little bit yeah yeah just give them something like especially your fans i feel like if nothing else you owe it to the people who do like you right like whenever i mess up i'm like i owe it to the people who do like you, right? Whenever I mess up, I'm like, I owe it to the people who do like me because they're rooting for you. They want you to be better and good.

I'm in the mindset sometimes people maybe don't know what they're doing. Giving the hugest benefit of the doubt, I'm like, maybe she didn't know that that was inappropriate. But now that you do know, say. Everyone's going to mess up and everyone's just trying to make the best decisions based on the information that you have at the time. And that's really all you can do. But to like not make the effort, put in that first step, do the work to like learn, you know, and accept that you did stuff that was fucked up. Right. Because now we've identified the problem. Like for me,

I didn't know what my problem was. I was like, well, I'm whatever. I'm just unhinged. Whatever. I'm real. Like I kept thinking, I was like, oh, there's a problem. Thank you, Dr. Drew. Which is like, oh, there's like something like mentally a little off where I can't regulate my emotions. I thought it was like mental illness, like bipolar, give me medication. This, you know, like all this stuff like that. And I realized, oh, like I can't control the way I react to things. And so I isolated the problem and got help. And it's like, now she knows what the problem is. So, you know, I don't think she's talking to underage fans anymore so it's like acknowledge it do better and people will see that you know it's like you can't come back fully clean from this but you can come back a little like you said she probably wants to keep being creative and

she's talented and all that stuff like that so it's like try to be better it's like Woody Allen is like 75 and just like, I'm whatever. Yeah. Piece of shit. But we did it with the hat. I was going to sing, but I can't even do my whistle tone because my throat is so dry. How do singers do it? How do they talk and sing? It's a little bit Donnie was saying, you got to work your exercise, your voice, you know?

I was like, oh my God, you watch it, but you better do it. I was like, well, you watch TV. Such a great guy. All right, you guys. Thank you so much for watching this episode of Just Trish. I hope that you guys take it for what it is. It's just entertainment. I don't know too much.

Oscar knows a little more than me. And then we got Moses knowing a lot. But it's silent over there in the corner. He's not really in the corner. We need to get a wide shot. Anyways, thank you guys so much for watching. And we'll see you next time on Just Trish.