Just Trish - Feb 12, 2026

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

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But what do you mean? We were like, Moses at the time where the night before, we have a laptop, we have two phones. You were fat, maybe you still, you could have maybe gotten away with this little antake, but being skinny. I think that was kind of, if you want to be messy like that, you can't be skinny.

Like, your gesture privilege is gone. That was my whole thing was like, why be boring? I told production after I got murder. I was like, don't cast boring people again. All right, it's just Trish and it's almost Valentine's Day. my favorite holiday because it's just love and pink and everything. It's also Wuthering Heights Openning weekend. We're so excited for that.

We're so excited. Love is just overwhelming all of us so much that we got an iced banana bread matcha and we have Jam Jam! Coming today. Such a surprise. Such a surprise. I'll let you know how it all happen. I'm so excited.

You know you put feelers out. I'm always sending you a DM. to people and like never hear back and I and we talk about all the time like scared to open a DM so like I just didn't assume I'd never hear back and then I went to go look and I was like he's like oh I'm in LA I was like oh my gosh I like worked out perfectly jam jam I'm so excited jam jam leave the castle I'm so excited I said that too yes I did like this I was like actually I didn't say that time I was just like you have such an iconic exit and he literally responded in text it's Lisa all capital

I was like already love him huh when it's time to end the podcast we'll just drag him out. What was the phrase? We have to look it up. What he said? He said something like, Jam. She kissed me.

She kissed me. No, but what did Alan Cummings say to Jam Jam Jam to leave the castle? Oh. He said, he had such a good one. I'll find it. He's like, it's you, Jam Jam, like something like crazy. Anyways. Oh, yeah.

Are we going to look it up? You Jam Jam! Yeah. Take him away, guys. Take him away. I love that. You Jam, Jim. I love it.

I'm so excited. He's coming later today. This was all literally, like, last minute. We're at the indoor playground with our kids. I'm like trying, I'm like, texting. I'm trying to figure all this out. I'm like, how do we get this to work? Can we do it the next day?

Can we air the next day? Can we air the next day? Because we film these on Wednesdays to air on Thursdays. And I just know this is like, he's a current, well, he was a current cast member. He obviously, spoiler. It was eliminated like a couple weeks ago. But iconic in every way. I researched.

I did my lore. Well, you watched Survivor, so you know. Yeah, I loved his season. He's like, the winner. Yeah. I'm gagged. Yeah. I'm even more gagged.

I was like, wow, beat Carolyn. Yeah. I was going deep into it. Anyways, I'm so excited he'll be coming here later in the episode. I'm so excited. I'm like so excited. Also, before we get started, vote for me for your favorite Broadway debut at I Heart Radio Awards. Woo-woo.

I feel like I'm feeling good about it. I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but I'm feeling good about it. I will be in May. If you were in the Southern California area, I'll be at Netflix as a Joke Comedy Festival at May 5th at the Wiltern at 945 p.m. with a Netflix star. And then also I'll be in Indio, California, Saturday, May 9th at the Fantasy Springs Casino, just me and a piano on a little cabaret night.

And I think I'm going to be debuting my new song there, which I have been learning Korean for. But that's a whole other thing. And I'm very excited to show. Oh, I was in it yesterday. I did like an eight-hour session. And like, I was so in it. And my singing instructor and my dialect coach is like, you're actually like 90% there.

Wow. Which is good. Yeah. He's like the only way you get 100% is like if you like go to Korea and like start speaking, which I might. Like I'm really preparing y'all. I'm preparing for Trish live in Korea this year. Like I really, really feel it coming. So with or without Benson Boone, really.

I'm there. And we're excited. Okay. What else? Oh, um, that's it. Oh, we're dressed as, we're just as Wuthering Heights Day. This is, we have been going, if I feel at all. I'm, we're getting a second macho coming, but I had a macho this morning.

I'm really into Mancha right. I've been having a lot of match. I had a lot of Lante giving the banana bread one day. I'm so excited to hear your reaction to it. But we have been going, let's see, I came home from the corner to shoot at like 9 p.m. last night. And then today I had to get about 5 a.m. because we had started shooting at 6 a.m.

Because we had lots of setups. We had dripped them out there doing different sets. We had the red floor. We had the poster with the tree in the background. Then we had the pink door and the TikTok's in between. Headshots of the month. Speaking of head shots of the month, oh, that's it. Patreon.com slash just Trish.

Okay, so a lot of people are asking. The no hate photos turned out amazing. which, by the way, the no hate campaign, okay, we'll talk about that in a minute, but the no hate photos, which we wanted to do, because they were doing it originally for the Proposition A's,

they know hate, like raising money for that. So we're like, okay, we wanted to raise money. We were donating to the MBJC, the National Black Justice Coalition, and that money, we already did our $5,000 donation, but all the money for the February headshot tier

will also be donated to the MBJC and people asking when those comes. So the cutoff for this was February 10th for this month's headshot, this headshot, and those photos will be included. It's called the February headshot, They ship out on March 15th. You have to sign up by March 10th.

So now through March 10th, you have until sign up. You'll get the no hate photo in there with the headshot. And then all that money from that tier for February will be donated to the MGSA. So like confusing, I know, but like we got it. We got it. And if you want to do a smaller donation, we'll always put their link down below if you guys would like to donate as well. Because again, just logistically, my sister just having to ship out everything. We're a three women team over here when it comes to shipping and receiving.

So just, there it is. And we're super excited. They turned out really good. Everyone looked really good in it. And then no hate reached out and like, hey, we're still here actually. They were like nice about it, but they were like, we're actually still here, so I don't know. And they do photo shoots and they were like willing to come out here.

They're like, we'll do your photo shoot. I was like, all right, work. So we might be doing another no hate. A follow up. Yeah. I don't know what it's for. I have to ask. I mean, I don't care.

I should care. I should care what it's for. That'd be crazy if it was like some weird, like, homophobic thing or something. But yeah, I guess also like anybody can do no hate shoots. I guess they do photo shoots in different cities and you can like sign up for it. So like San Francisco, we're here. Come do your no hate. I love it.

I love that they're still going. I hear I thought it was like 20 years old. But they're like, no, we're here. It is. But work. They're keeping it alive. Yes. And you know what?

Keep the hate at bay. So, you know, I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we need them still. You look very professional today. I don't know if I've ever seen you so pro. You say that every time I wear a button up, to be honest.

Oh, exactly. Yeah, you never wear a button up, do you? Wait, where did you wear this before? You wore a button up? This is the one at Uniclo I got in like eight different colors, so I've worn variations of the same one. I like every week for the past couple. You look like a director slash producer for National Geographic.

I'll take that. I was going to say like Steven Spielberg on the side of like Jurassic Park or something. I'll take either. But also, yeah, you also look like you're down for business today. You have the ring. It's like I like it. Oh, yeah. I like when you wear jewelry too.

This is our Tinder X Ian Charms PR package. I've been getting the PR packages lately and I'm like kind of living. Wait, I love you at a Tinder one. Yeah. I think they sent it to you too. And it's like it was like little capsules and each little capsule was like, wear this on like a bad date or something. And yeah, this one just says love him.

It's a ring that says love him. And then if you flip it around, it says like leave him or something. Oh, is Ian Charms? Block him. Yeah, he got in the past. You got Ian Charms. in the past. Oh, maybe that's why we're, okay.

So, oh, they did a collab with Tinder. Yeah, I know. I really love that. Yeah, we got the capsule. We kept it for that Love Line. We thought, yeah, that Love Line, shout out and that sponsor our Tinder, not this one, but I was fine.

We didn't. We love, their Tinder ad reads are great. It's like, oh, it's a double date. That's what we're promoting because they have now have a double dating feature. We're not promoting it here, but I'm just saying that makes more sense because it's like, go on a date with your friend, which is kind of cool. Love that. We do have the capsules. Yeah, we didn't know where like maybe I'm supposed to show

this or that anyways okay Ian Charms are we sponsored by beverage we're not okay great red Bull also sent me like rain really like heard you need some energy mama and I was like how much do they send you a lot there was a lot in that package and also some vodka I was like well

yeah you know you can get alcohol I don't know they sent it in the PR bucket I know love so I do have wings today I do have wings okay you know you won't stop sending us stuff because all those boxes down there's yesterday I was like there's just so many boxes again five of those were liquid death. I never say it that way.

You do. When my dad was here, he's like, well, is there ever a day you don't get boxes? Never. Sometimes multiple times a day. I was like, okay. That's not how I talk. That's never how I talk.

That's the vibes. That's the energy. It's filtered through her ears. I just saw a meme of like somebody talking about her husband. She's like, over time I found out that everything he said was true, but I still don't like his tone. Yeah, that part. My mom does have sometimes a tone.

No, but I never say that way. There's no bad things to say about Moses, truly. I really do think you're perfect. Sometimes the tone, not with me, but just in general. Well, first of all, the delivery. The delivery. But whenever I heard that word, it's just. Okay.

Kind of just like there. I literally said, because you came home from the studio and it was about to start raining, I wanted to know to go and get the boxes. So I was just like, there was a lot of boxes downstairs. I was like, I already got them in my car. That's how it was. the tone. You know what? You were in such a good mood because, okay, I always tried to get home by seven. I was like, I need to get home by seven. And I was on track to get home by seven.

I didn't get home to like eight o'clock. And I was, I was like, where were you? Because sometimes you like, where were you? No, where were you? And you saw the Capitol Girl bag in my hand. And I was like, ooh, I got caught. Capital Girl takes 45 minutes for takeout when you placed the order. And then I went in there thinking, I might be done early. Look, one person was very nice. One person was not so nice. One person's just like, that's the pickup time. take it or leave it. And I was like, well, I already prepaid, so I'm gonna wait, but like, should I wait here? I'm in shorts and like a T-shirt and it's like 8 o'clock at night.

So it's like the fancy dining hour. And I'm double parked. Shot to the valet, Capitol Girl. They're like, you can just park it here. And I was like, oh my God, thank you so much because the parking is like down. It's like a whole thing. And I was like, well, I'm prepaid at Solm. And like, well, do you want to wait in the waiting area?

And I was like, because I had the shorts on. I was like, well, I'll just like wait in the car. I'm like, if that's what you want to do. I was like, okay. But then the guy who brought it out and he seemed, I don't know, they were fine. She was fine. I think she was just like, probably annoyed that I was.

I wasn't even annoyed. Anyways, whatever. I had to get home, right? And I was like, the fact that it was a 45-minute wait for food, I was like, I was like, okay. And I was just like, but I brought home. You know what? The girls love that steak.

We ate that filet. Me, Elvis and Malibu. We chout on that filet. It was so good. No, because I texted you and I said, because I was trying to gauge when you're going to be home, then if we'll have dinner together or because, obviously.

But then you said, You order. To pick up something for Malibu because I'm making food for Elvis right now. You're making for Elvis. So I figured out you're going to go somewhere. You're going to get food. We should have planned it more ahead of time though. I knew.

I knew you're going to be. Before I left the studio, we should have planned it that way. I could have planned a plate. Anyways, it was fine. It worked out. Moses didn't care. It was the point of the story. He didn't care.

No, you know exactly where we were doing. And in fact, he's like, you better sit down before it gets cold. And I was like, okay, because I had to get my water and wash my hands and all that's like that. It was a key. I was good. Anyways, I was complimenting you. I don't know.

That sounded like more like a fight. It was a roundabout way. On the Valentine's episode. To discuss every squabble. Happy Valentine's Day. What are you? Our plans around. We did our Valentine's Day.

Honestly, the only gift I ever on Valentine's Day is to do photo shoots and I loved it. I lived my fantasy. It was everything. No, I lived my fantasy. You were singing Kate Bush to me this morning. I learned those lyrics. Wow. That's impressive.

He's like, can you learn these letters? Now I know. Welcome to. Welcome to Welcome to the Heights Heathcliffe It's me I'm Kathy Come home tonight to me It's cold When I look to your window

Yes, okay You'll see the TikTok on Valentine's Day I look for that reveal in two days What are you drink for Valentine's Day? Great question, possibly San Francisco Although it has not been books or maybe not if not, then probably the cheesecake factory. And yes.

I love. Okay, not to go back to that fight, we just had. But, Mom's like, I'm ordering this, and it's a place I don't like. He's like, if you want, you can order a cheesecake factory. I was like, no, babe, you don't know me, not Cheesecake Factory. And I was already close to the area. I was like, I'm getting capital girl. It was a little 20 minutes out of my way, but it was whatever.

But when you said Cheesecake Factor, that was crazy. We love cheesecake, but not love it. I don't love it. No, not that. I was just thinking about the kids because I'm trying to figure out their meal. Then you should have told me that. I would have post made of them the cheesecake factory. I didn't know that's what you were thinking.

I thought you meant for me. I thought you're like, maybe you get cheesecake factory. Because sometimes you order and by the time you get home, it gets here. I should have probably done that. I should have ordered even from Mastro's the steak probably would have been the same. I don't know. Honestly, whatever. Anyway, sorry, not to go back.

Cheesecake Factory is a great place at Valentine's Day, though. Oh, yeah, thank you. I don't love the Cheesecake Factory. Like, yeah, obviously they'd want Capital Grill or Maestro's. You're a good for you. You know I don't love the Cheatros. But good for you for Cheesecake Factory. that's a great Valentine's Day.

Work. It is. There's crispy cheeses are really good. The crispy cheese, the factory nachos I only get in person. The chicken tenders. Yeah. Yeah. It's reliable.

Orange chicken for you. Yeah. Although you did influence me to get chicken tenders last time. Did you get them? Yeah. Are they good? Amazing. They're really good there.

They're really good. That's actually like my go-to too right now. Yeah. Amazing. Okay. Well, done and done. I did see you had a little debacle with the caviar nuggets, though. that's not just how it.

That just says the whole world. That's true. Well, I literally just opened my Twitter and I just saw like the onslaught of like, mind you, this was the time like Ariana tickets are going on sale. Like Noah Cahan tickets are going on sale, Zane tickets. So I'm seeing every stand like complained about like waiting in line and purchasing. And then you being like, what's going on? It's not loading. And I'm like, is she trying to get Ariana tickets or something?

And then I get to the bottom of like the tweet storm. And then it's, I see the McDonald's caveat. are. He's like, oh. That's some bullshit. I'm just going to say it. That's bullshit. We love you, McDonald's. That's why we're doing this.

But what do you mean? We were like, Moses at the time or the night before, we have a laptop. We have two phones. We're like, yeah. We were, there's just no way. Like, it refreshed for us, actually. We were, like, sitting there waiting for it and then it refreshed for us. And then I was able to click on get your form.

And then it just took us to that white blank page. I was screen recording it because I, like, refreshing it. One of us was refreshing it. One of us was staying on it. The computer was staying on it. Like, and then we finally like, 802. It's like, we're sold out. I was like, are you, are you like, I would love some one person on your TikTok was like, I got it. I'd love to see. Well, basically, what I found out is that they had only 750 units. So 750. And imagine how many thousands of people were standing in line waiting. So it's like the chance that we have more chance winning the lottery. I kind of, I see. So you're saying maybe love that though.

we do have a lottery ticket for tonight i i get that but like are you just saying there's so many people on at the same time as as some people got through and some people didn't is that would wear a lot some people got through it crashed on others and then also some people were using bots so so they have a faster i don't know like they get there faster or they do something that they i feel like that should be illegal like i don't understand like what do you mean that's what happened What do you mean? That's what we have tickets to shows and everything else. And we weren't like, it wasn't, I didn't even know I think about it of being free.

I was just like, okay, we're going to be in line. We're going to buy it or whatever we need to do to purchase it. Oh, you know, they're free? Like that wasn't the goal is to get something for free. It was more about the fact that this kit that we were making together. If we could buy the kit, we would have bought it. You know, it's not even. Yeah, they should do that too.

It wasn't even about that. Because some people in the, you know, some people are like, well, why you, you don't need free caviar. And no, we don't. It's more about the kit. We'll take it. We'll take the free. No, my own says, it's more about like, you said, you're the chicken nuggets. I'm the caviar.

I really wanted it for you. We were doing it together. And that's what it was about. But we can do it by ourselves. We can get caviar. We can get great. I know, but something McDonald's packaging. And China McDonald's were doing it for free because we were talking about how like it is like a little like in this economy.

Like, who was it? Jacqueline Hill did the caviar. The nugget. And everyone's like, all right, Jacqueline. Like, in this economy, right? Like, and who, honestly, who cares? Whatever. My thing goes back and forth.

Yes. Like it is a little. excess of whatever. But I do love that McDonald's was giving away them for free. That was great. But they should have had an option once the free was sold out to be like here, buy it. Because I think I bought it. I think Pringles did a caviar collab in the past.

I think I bought it even before we were on this caviar kick. I hate caviar just for the record. I was trying to get it from my fans over there. That was my Valentine's Day present was to be like, look what I got you. McDonald's caviar. And people got those PR packages. People snackulator got the PR package. Like they were getting those PR packages.

We didn't. We didn't get the free caviar. I don't know. We were trying. I guess my outrage was probably a little misplaced because there are people dying in this world. I think it's okay to get upset out of inconvenience for sure. Like yeah. I mean, you're dying to eat caviar and you can't like crazy.

But I mean all upset the thing is that it's not the caviar company's fault because obviously it's an expensive product for them. They can't just give it for free. So McDonald's. It's McDonald's fault needs to be buying a few thousands of those because it's tiny little, you know, things of caviard. McDonald's is notorious for not buying enough stuff. The amount of publicity they got for it is insane to the amount of money they actually spent on it. But now it's a backlash because people are like, F you. Like people were upset.

Like this was a horrible campaign. It left 750 people happy. But thousands of people there are just upset completely. And they're like, never again. Have you. I guess like what are you going to do though? Like you really can't give free to everybody. they should though

McDonald's has enough money to give free caviar I feel like if you purchased McDonald's in like 2026 and you have like a receipt you should like be able to go in and get like free caviar you know like you said it's like tiny little

McDonald's could afford that for everyone who bought McDonald's right can you imagine all the people that bought McDonald's I mean I'm sure they would make billions of dollars off of people who bought McDonald's in the past month you know I know how much I spent on McDonald's

I spend a lot you're just the campaign company whoever made the campaign made a horrible campaign it just was the wrong way to do it But I guess the exclusivity is like the popcorn buckets. It's like, ooh, the exclusivity of it makes it.

It makes it. Yeah. Ultimately, a great campaign because like you said, everyone's talking about it. So someone did the hype. But in a negative light, though. But this is that serious. I mean, we're upset, but are we like upset? I mean, to quote you, my feature new merch.

I'm annoyed, but I'll get over it. That was probably my favorite tweet. Even Popflop tweeted that. Popflop. Is that a new, is that a fake one? Yeah. Did you start it? No, I would say this.

But Popflop shared Trisha Paitis and new tweet. I'm annoyed, but I'll get over it. I'm period. Honestly. Life motto. Yeah, that is the team. That is what it was. And I think that's everybody, right?

Because it is, yeah, I don't want people to think I'm like really pissed about it. But I was in the moment. And like you just said it's okay to be. It's okay. That's a good way to be. It's okay to be annoyed even if there are people dying. Like it's okay to be annoyed. Yeah, inconveniences.

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Thank you so much to kick out for sponsoring today's episode. Yeah, like that part, it's like, you don't need to be annoyed over it. You don't need to be annoyed over any of that that you just said. I watched it today. I watched it this morning. I was like, because I was like, damn, she got fire. I was like, what did you say? I was like, you just sound dumb.

People being annoyed by just other people, like, existing and enjoying entertainment is actually so crazy. Or like that someone's speaking to different. Like, it's so, that was crazy. Honestly, that was crazy. And I should deserve the firing. Because mostly I'm like, oh, is it crazy to, like, fire someone with an opinion. But it's crazy when you're dumb and ignorant and stupid. Yeah.

I think if you use your platform to be racist about a Latin singer singing in Spanish, you have a common model, for sure. Yeah. There's no flex to English speaking only. It's so weird to be like, no white people. I don't know. All of it was weird. It was weird, yeah. Weird.

And it was a real housewife, Joe Zeran. She was originally from Real Housewives of New York. and she has been off the show for a long time and she's been vying to get a spot back on the show and it was like a real housewife spin off on the e-network and like she was the thirstiest one to get it out of everyone and then she got it. Oh.

And before even filming gets fired. It's like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, because you're also just the stuff she said when she was like Gaga, like her face looks unorganized. Well, meanwhile, she looks like cat lady over there and I was like, oh, let's look at your face, okay? That was great. Like that is just like such a crazy thing to say.

Like all of it was so crazy. I had no idea who she was don't care know who she was She's not going to get anything anymore ever Because also just that face You know everything about it was crazy and weird I hated it I hate her

And this is why I don't like housewives I feel like they just They're just a little Is that a little too much? Yes Real housewives Are fine But there's so many of them

That are great Yeah Who name one Countess Luann we love Yeah I mean The one that was just The traders

I like Fageron traders last season. I'm saying like it's a broad chart. There's so many housewives. There's so many shows. Some of them might be on this couch at some point. Yeah. So far.

Right. Well, Lisa and Renner doesn't consider herself a housewife. And she said, someone asked her, would you be in a trader's just full of housewife? She's like, no, get me away from those women. So she would agree with me too that maybe they're a little dubious. Her send off on the show was a little nuts. Lisa Renna's? Yeah.

What was it again? Bad, nuts good or nuts bad? I mean, it was just dramatic. Not like super problematic or anything. She just was falling out with. with everybody towards that. I would do that too. Yeah.

Because you're probably so heated, well, I have jam jam, but you're probably so heated in that moment. I did love Jam Jams exit because it was so camp. It was just like, it's Lisa. I would do that too for sure. Even if it's against the world, who cares? Who cares? It's traitors.

Like, oh my God, people get so mad at it. It's like just, I probably would be the worst traitor actually because I probably would just like exposed or faithful or anybody. I probably would just expose everyone else I left. I actually, this person, you know what I mean? Like I'm a traitor, but so is. You know? Just think about my votes.

I don't know. All right, I take back what I said about the housewives, but some of them seem to be kind of dubious. I mean, some, yes,

but there's a lot of great ones, too. The Candace was one of the traitors that everyone was. Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she was good.

Yeah, there's some great ones. And you have to remember some of those shows are scripted to some degree or heightened, for sure. Well, not Jill's there.

There was no script on that Instagram story. She went rogue. And I'm not looking in the show. Yeah. And didn't one go to prison for like, stealing from old people.

Jen Shaw. Yeah. And I was like, she's so iconic. I'm like, she scammed old people. They kind of live for her, though. Emma Stone went to like, I think her trial, like, Emma Stone went incognito and waited outside of Nicole just to see her, like, exit her, the courthouse for her trial. Who am I to judge anybody for like, fine.

You know what? Great. Honestly, better probably than Gypsy Rose, I suppose. That's a better stand. You're right. Whatever, Queen go off. I'm not in this lore. I want to be in this lore.

We have a . Coming on to. I'm very excited. Should I say? It doesn't matter. Okay, well, wait. I'm very excited. Someone I talked about recently.

Maybe. Love. Okay. Yeah. She talked about me in the Hair Jazzy podcast. It's like, wow, we're just so mutual in love with each other. Anyways, that's exciting.

Speaking of court, I know you hate talking about this subject, but Blake Lively and Rodney. Oh, Justin Baldoni. Both showed up in Forest Green today. I wonder why. You know there's stylists that choose, like, how you should present yourself. The psychology of the color. Yeah, what is the psychology?

Well, the psychology of green. Well, for movies, people put them in green if you want to look sick. If you want to look like you're like ill. You know? So I'm like, what's this green? Do you mean green? Forest green can symbolize nature, growth, harmony, and renewal. Oh, they both were like, we want to be.

Yes. Blank has the bag. It's innocence. I'm like, I'm just a forest. I'm a tree in the forest. It's something innocent about it. Like good morals and ethics. In green?

To me, green is like greedy money. It depends how they dress. But Forest Green, Forest Green in particular. Okay, Forest Green. Okay, so Forest Green, that makes sense. Growth and, yeah, like, foundation. That's so interesting because they both kind of look matching. I'm like, do you guys coordinate this?

You guys wearing the same thing. They kind of look fierce. I'm not going to lie. Justin walked hand-in-hand with his wife into court. Ryan Reynolds was not there walking hand-in-hand, which I thought would have been really a powerful statement. You better walk in-hand-hand with me if I was in court. You know what I mean?

Like, especially that kind of situation. I think Ryan is all upset about it. beginning to end. Okay, whatever. That's still your, that's still your wife. You know what I mean? If I'm Jill, or who's the one that went to Jen Shaw? If I'm Jen Stahl and I sold from, I still want you to do a hand-in with me,

supporting me, you know? I support. Yeah, why not? Like, I want support. To go by myself makes it look like, oh, Moses does, there's trouble in paradise. Moses is going to leave her because she went to prison. I think that's our problem. If you stole from all people.

To me, it's looking. It looks like Ryan Reynolds is like, I'm too busy to be there because I'm Ryan Reynolds. No, but this is. like a really big deal. Like your wife is, uh, claiming harassment. Oh, sexual harassment. It's different. Very different. Yes, you're right. So claiming harassment against a director. It's very high profile. Like you should be there, especially since you're high profile, but also you're just her husband too. I think he should be there. I think it's crazy. Not to say there's anything wrong with a woman just being independent showing up by yourself, but optics. Am I saying that right?

I'm learning this more. Optics is like, oh, he has his wife. Like he's not going to be a creep. is what, like, psychology would say if I was a psychologist. Right? Because you're like, oh, he can't be a creep. He is in a relationship. Look, I don't know. Like, whatever. Creeps can be, of course.

But it looks that way more. Especially, like, if you brought kids in tow. Like, look, like, look, man. It's always the first thing people look at this to see if the wife supports the person. Yes, yeah. Because they're like, oh. That's the first way you can tell if something was actually. Period.

Like when Glenn Powell and the Sydney Swin thing happened and then Glenn Powell's girlfriend unfollowed him, we're like, hmm. Or your latest ones with. your trio that you love. Oh, Chase shows. Yes, all of them on following each other. You're like, oh, wait, she doesn't support. So there must be something weird about this person.

Just from an outside perspective, he's also moving to Nashville, fleeing to Nashville as people do. I don't know, fleeing is the right word, but you know what I mean? Like running quickly, selling that Ohio home for $8.9 million. Okay, Jane the Virgin residuals. Like, $8.9 million in that Ohio house. That's crazy. It's Cody Coe status over there. I know, T.

Crazy. I know. Anyways, I was kind of gagged that everyone was like, that was my headline on Twitter, Instagram everywhere was them walking into court. Is it a trial, jury? It is. I think they're meeting to see if they're if they will settle, I believe. Oh, it's not even like jury, like Johnny Depp?

No, I think they're still like it will have, it could eventually become that, I think, but there are still like meeting to see if they're going to settle. They should I don't think anybody wants this mess Thank you so much Oh wow Thank you Wow you look just like Jacob Polardi today Moses

You look very handsome You really do I see it now I say it now I say the comment That was the top comment on the poster And it was like waiting for Trisha Petus and Moses To cosplay this You look like him I think

Yeah if I lose a couple of pounds Because then his cheekbones No I think you're hotter than Jacob Polardi today actually He looked very handsome It's like your third Jacob Blorety today role that you played you played Elvis you played Nate Jacobs and now you are he's I'm sure he played something else I like Jacob already I haven't seen him in anything but I think

he's probably oh I saw him in Priscilla he seems good right I don't know a little too skinny to be Elvis huh yeah he was too tall to be Elvis but I mean that's crazy to say too tall I can't help being tall but too skinny he could have by casting people usually they try too much I don't think everybody's too tall we got to watch the Frankenstein did you ever see it no Daryon did though Let me watch it. We like Yamamoto Toro. We love the shape of water. Okay, yeah, it's a settlement conference.

And every civil trial, it's like court order that you have to meet to see if you'll settle. And if it doesn't, then it would go to court, civil court in May. But Justin's lawyer walking in said, we're here to win. So it means he might not go for a settlement. Blake didn't want to settle before. And then Justin's team did. They didn't want it to go to court. but now they might have changed.

I have no idea. That's a crazy statement to say just going to a mediator just be like, we're here to win. It's like, well, you're not here to do anything right now. You're just here to see if we can solve it. That's kind of wild and aggressive. I'm on nose.

I have no idea. I'm just like so, like not educated on this. Do I need to be? Probably not. No, I don't think so. It's very much like in the court of public opinion right now. I think Blake is losing the court of public opinion for sure. And...

Which makes me one aside with her. I kind of feel bad when like someone like is like, like oh you know like but i don't i don't know either i think it just has there's obviously tons of files and stuff but the thing is like they all get like cherry picked and you can cherry pick the everything that's been submitted on to claim either side like and that's what everyone's doing everyone's like well obviously it's true because of this and then it's like no she's lying because of this and it's like everyone's just cherry picking things so i'm kind of like until it goes to core and as a consensus is made then yeah i will say i've always been open

to her possibly being harassed because it's not just her. It's like every woman on the set said the same thing. Even like the Uber driver that was driving her to and from set was saying that Justin was being weird. To the driver? Yeah, that they interviewed the driver too. And there was like that was in the, you know, the files as well. So I'm like, damn, there's a lot of people saying that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although I do understand the argument. People like, well, Blake is very influential. but then I would also argue right now I think she's probably the least influential person in Hollywood. That's true who wants to come into defense to someone. She's got this proud over her that like no one wants to like be bogged down by. So I have no idea.

Yeah, she's never done like great interviews in the past either. You're always like, there's something weird about this girl. Every interview, like she's kind of been like very unlikable. Yeah. But she's still power because it was like the power couple and she had a lot of famous friends and stuff. Ooh, she should have walked in with Taylor Swift. Taylor wants nothing to do with it even. No one wants anything to do.

too with it. Yeah. I don't blame anybody. Especially when the text messages came out. Yeah. It's horrible for Taylor. Well. I don't think so.

I think so. I think someone, I forgot. Just in the sense of you never want your personal messages out there to the world. Of course, but they were personal messages. As we always say, sometimes personal messages. Who doesn't vet and rant and be mean to the, I don't anymore in text messages just for this reason because you know people are screenshoting every day. But back in the day, text messages to my mom and sister would be like, mm-mm.

you know, like you just, you know, if you can't be catty and vent, look at us, like if our conversations, you know, we love to be a little catty and fending. I feel like I've been meeting her on this program. So like, I don't know what a text message just said. I don't love in defending her and being like,

oh, we've all had those text messages, which I would assume, unless she said something great. Like, I don't know what she could have said. Like, you know. It was nothing great. She didn't call like the F slur or anything. Right?

So it's like, yeah. No slurs for you. I think it's fine. I think it's fine. And how do they even get those text messages? Like, who puts them out there? Like subpoenaed. So, yeah.

And they can just publish them. Like, I get subpoena, subpoena. What's the adjective? That's the verb. The verb. The verb. Yeah. Subpoenaing in.

Subpoenaed for court. I think you're getting it subpoenaed, maybe. I don't know. Well, you know what I mean? Like, I can't just steal it in the courts. How did they get public? That's, I guess. Anything, anything in a court case is public.

Yeah. And some, like, the personal stuff can get redacted, but, yeah. But it's not like it's already out there. Yeah. Redacted is so silly. It's like, well, Dardy, what did that just do? It's like, what do they do? Like, when you, like, say something from the jurors,

and they're, like, you can't say that in front. Strike that from the back from the record. Yeah, it's like, well, I just heard that. So I'm not striking it from my memory. Like, that's so crazy. So if I was a lawyer, I'd always just put shit there. Morgan and Morgan and Morgan. Yes.

Morgan and Morgan and Trish. Still waiting for that billboard. I love those Morgan and Morgan billboards. But, yeah, I would. Not legal advice. We should put that as a disclaimer here. Do not take legal advice from me. But that's what I would do if I was a lawyer, which I'm not.

I probably get a ton of money, though, from this case, all their lawyers. That's why why he's like, we're going to win. He probably wants it to... They're already making tons of money. Yeah. Yeah, he probably wants to drag that out as long as possible. At least until May, I suppose. But I am ready for it to be over.

There's, like, too many things happening in the world. And I'm like, my brain can't, like, juggle all of these things. I know. I'm with you. It does suck that. We look at these trials as, like, spectacle. like the Dined Up thing. I mean, that was such a moment in time. Like, we didn't have the podcast at the time, but I remember we would be just, like,

glued us pregnant with Malibu, and just like all hours of the day, just like checking TikTok, like watching the trial, like just so glued to it. It was so weird. And that went on for like a month or something. And then when it was over, I'm like, what do we do now? Yeah. You know, it sucks, but I guess they're fine. He's playing Ebony's or Scrooge or something. Did you see that? So jealous. I want to be in the remake of a Christmas Carol. That's a cool. He looked old. He looked old.

But Amberyn's driving. She has two children. Yeah, she moved. She's out of the country. Oh. Just living alive. I think Spain or something. Oh.

Everyone goes there, huh? Who? Well, I don't know if we can say the name. We can bleep it. There. Can you say that or no? Okay. I don't know what he can say.

That's allegedly it's there. He was there. There was photos. Okay. Is it a conspiracy? I don't know. Okay. Well, I don't like to get involved in that.

But I'm just saying I saw him there. Allegedly. You saw him there yourself. Yes. Okay, work. Twitter. You know that AI always gets me. AI, the poop graves, the flop graves.

Pop-flop, though. I like pop-flop if they quote tweeted me. I don't know. I don't know. What do we have for hot topics today? I was just excited for a jam jam. Originally, they were like, you only get 15 minutes with him. And I was like, well, okay, well, this is long for.

That's your intro. Yeah. I was like, can we do it a little bit longer? He's very busy. He didn't say that. The publicist said that. But the publicist was nice. He was fine.

And I was like, can we go a little longer? And we'll talk about other things too. They're like, okay. They really got them unlocked there on the traders. I guess they're in L.A. Someone let it leaked that they're all in L.A. for the reunion right now. O. T.

Who did? It's like someone like Andy. God, I guess we do the fun ones first. Amelia de Maldenberg. She is going to have a movie. Oh. And it's about a journalist. who it's going to be a rom-com.

It's about a journalist who's interviewing a celebrity, then they end up falling in love. Okay, I do love these. Life or imitate's life, I suppose. Wait, why? Remember everyone was shipping like her and Andrew Garfields because they had good chemistry. She also had great chemistry with damson interest, too.

So, I mean, really should be with anyone, I guess. Oh, I love stories. Is she going to be in it? Is she playing yourself? I don't know if she would play herself. She has been directing a little bit lately. Like, she's been directing, like, music videos and stuff. Okay, I love.

I love this trope. We see it all the time. Don't cast Anna Hathaway in it, though. Oh my God. I have to see that. Do you know what I mean? Why do you have against Ann Hathaway now? I know.

I don't know. Actually, on the show we're watching, nobody wants this. Did I already say this on the podcast or no? Whispers. But they don't like Ian Hathaway? Oh, I don't think so. Oh, my God. Nobody wants this.

They were talking about just things that are just like, you just have to agree, like just girl code for no reason, whatever. And they're like, yeah, just the fact that we hate Anne Hathaway for no reason. And I was like, oh my God. That's literally me. Like, there's no reason to hate her, but for some reason, I'm just like, I can't stand her. But she's fine. I don't know why.

But when they said that or nobody wants this, you watched it with me. The two sisters were like, yeah, and you just have to hate and Hannaathaway, even though there's no reason to. And I was like, that is womanhood. That's like so weird. It was weirdly, like, I felt not alone because I was like, wow, I really dislike it. You know, just don't like, I don't like, she seems fine. But for some reason, I can't get into any of her movies.

I don't like Prince Stars. I don't like Devora Bras Prada. And I'm like, maybe it's her. But maybe it's not. Maybe it's me. Maybe there is some internal something that I'm dealing with. I'm not sure. No, I know exactly what it is.

Okay, tell me. Lord, I'm really going to get it today. I know it because I am standing up for the girls. Anne Hathaway, the original Rachel Ziegler, there was a hate campaign around when she was like hosting the Oscars and when she was bald in that one sad movie, lay Ms. Robb. She got the hate campaign because she was very cringy theater kid. Oh. But I love. I think back then you would

I mean you like until two years ago would be very influenced by a hate campaign I think like if you'd just see an onslaught of bad things You'd be like oh I hate this Me with Blake Lively You know you just go with it But yeah I guess that makes that So there wasn't I didn't remember the hate campaign

But that makes sense She was like everything she did Like no one was feeling her For a long time And then she kind of took a little bit of a break And now I think people are coming back around to In Hathaway I always

I always was a fan Hathaway, if you will. That's a good one. I don't know if I stole that. That's a great one. That was good, a fan Hathaway. She seems fine because I like that trope, and I like the Harry Stiles-esque movie that she did. But like, yeah, this is something I was like, I can't see an Hathaway, but you don't know

why. That makes sense. That's right. I think she's been tainted. Yes, I think she's probably been tainted for you. Oh, that sucks. Yes. But she has like five movies coming out this year.

Yeah. So. She is crushing it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. I don't like Princess Diaries. It's not a good movie, but maybe I'm...

Oh, I definitely am in the... Yeah, that's probably a hot tape for me. Maybe that's too old to like it. I don't know. Something about it came out and I was like, I don't like anything about this movie. Oh, I loved everything about that movie. Because she was like, you know what it was?

It was like real awkward. I like the Hillary Duff awkward where it's like, I'm so like ugly and gross, but she looks exactly the same except with a mask of that and you're just like, you're still like I'm all like blonde. Anne Hathaway had like, you know what it was too? I had frizzy hair as a kid. Oh, it was your triggered.

And I got, yes, Sophia Franklin clocked me for my frizzy hair. Like, you look like your finger was stuck in an electric. I forgot about that. I know. No, I'll never forget it because it brought me back to school. Literally kids all the time were like making fun of me for my frizzy hair. And I think me at Thermopolis had some frizzy hair. And it was giving me a flashback sticker at the rosy hair.

So I was like, I can't like that. Really random person to get in drama is Josh Peck. I kind of forgot about, to be honest. But he... Yeah, I didn't know he was like still... He's still kicking. Okay. As an influencer or an actor?

I guess. as a creator. I don't know the influence mama, but he'd be creating. So he posted a video on Instagram where he was making fun of a family who was trying to put out a fire, like their house was on fire, and they were using like water buckets to kind of put the water out. Here I'll show you for context. It's just a real fire. Oh, oh my gosh. Yeah. So the home is on fire. They're obviously just trying to do whatever. And then he like stitched it and like, was, making fun of that for some reason. Everyone was like, oh, that's not.

Like, what? Why would you do that? Why? Why? Why? I really, I don't know. I don't know. I didn't know he was dubious like that. Because then everyone's airing out in the comments. I was like, oh, damn. Like, what are they saying? Well, he married into, like, a very, like, MAGA family, like, super, super conservative.

And, like, also, like, trying to, like, fund legislation to, you know, take different my noise rights away, allegedly. So everyone kind of be airing him out now and being like, oh, he's not a nice guy. And I'm like, damn, see, if you were fat, maybe you still could have maybe gotten away with this little antake, but being skinny, I think that was kind of, if you want to be messy like that,

you can't be skinny. Like, your jester privilege is gone. That's kind of true. That's kind of true, actually. But also, look, I mean, he is like, he does seem nice. He presented nice when I knew him and stuff like that, but you're friends with David Dobrick.

You got still friends with David Dobrick. You know what I mean? And like, that's crazy. But that's actually almost like, demented a little bit, because if you see someone like in crisis, like in Europe, like, first thing is to like stitch, like make a joke. First of all, Josh Pack has never been funny.

He's been nice, not funny, as he ever. And all of you, Drake and Josh fans, I know, I like to meet one. Yes, is he here? Yay! Yay! Yay! Yeah!

So excited! We're coming too, because I want to get good pictures together. He'll be here a minute. There we go, we go, and one this way. Three, two, one. Thank you. Yeah. There we go, there we go, three, two, one.

Bam, bam, bam, bam, and then this way. No, you just do. You're the star. Yes, yes, no. Do you have water over there? Here. It's a pillow.

Yeah, that's a, yeah. Because I feel like... You need water. You know, a little bit more. And that's so interesting because me, I don't like pillows, because I feel like it puts me to the forefront. I like to be like small back here. Whenever I'm in a pillow, it looks like...

Well, this is made for you. Of course, you look wonderful, wherever you sit down. It's supposed to make me like tiny. Get it out. By the time I see this, hold on, I was like, I wish I looked this way. Tell me, I'll tell you what, though, you look tiny. These chairs are made to be like super little tiny. I like that.

I like that's why I know you have body is worth you. It's like honey, I shrunk the kids kind of shit. Yes, yes, to be as small as possible. Yes, water there, coffee's coming. Yes, yeah, I'll give you, we have a whole case if you want to take them. We have 500 cases. No, I'm traveling. I travel.

I have already too much. Yes, I love. So you just came by your, you're here by yourself today? Mm-hmm. Oh my gosh. I traveled from Mexico City because my husband and I have an apartment in Puerto Rico and apartment in Mexico. And we travel from Mexico here because tomorrow we're filming the reunion.

Of Traders is on four. Are you so excited? And you know you have to give looks. Yeah. Oh, so, right. So, yeah. Because my husband is a fashion designer. Because you don't give it away.

A lot of the stuff he owns him and his brother is like worked in Mexico. So I went there. Got my outfit. Which I think you might enjoy because there's a lot of shades that match this sad. Oh, okay. And I don't want to ask too much if you don't want to like spoil it. Okay, I love. But, um, I think it's really fun.

Oh, wait. A lot of this. I should take a little. Yeah, awesome. Take some fabrics from here. Yes, we have some in the garage if you need to. Oh, please. Wait, that's so exciting.

So, okay, that's like a question. So you said Survivor, you did have looks. And then traders, we had Gabby, one of the best traders. Oh, my God, I love her. And she was, like, telling us, but we didn't go too far into, like, looks. Because I watch it, and I'm just like, how does everyone have this in the wardrobe? Like, everyone looks like they're part of the, like, castle. So, like, do they give you a guideline, like, ahead of time?

They don't give you shit. They are like, have you seen how wonderful everybody looks? Bring it. Oh, they're like a drag race. Like, it's crazy. I think I think that's how I saw it. I mean, I'm a survivor player. I'm a winner.

I'm one of the gamers. And normally gamers are not known for their fashion because we're known for the game. Yeah, you're out in the jungle or the island. So going out there, my husband was like, you cannot go out there like everybody else. You're going to go against the housewife. You're going to go against people from drag race. You have to bring it. Yeah.

So they do have a stylist, and the stylist helps those ones that don't have like a big wardrobe, like maybe like Natalie got a lot of help. Rob Rush got everything he wore was from the stylist. A lot of the gamers got help. But the housewives, of course. You know, they got their own stylist. And Colton has his own stylist, Mark. Kristen, a lot of people brought their own stuff, Johnny, Tara.

And me. Yes, of course. Custom made. Everything. Everything. Mostly everything. Because I brought like 15 looks. Of course, I got out of episode seven, but.

That's good though. Honestly, I've done reality shows. I think I've made it like week one, week two on both shows. I was like, oh, you know what I mean? So seven is good. But I was used to win it. Well, that's okay. So if you guys don't know, which I wasn't like from,

you are recent winner, season 44? Season 44. That was like two years ago. I think it's gonna be three years now in May. Wow. Now, season 50 is going to start airing, which is like a super milestone for Survivor or any show, any show that has 50 seasons. Crazy. I remember when it first started, like, the first season.

That's why I was like, oh, how long are you? Did you remember when it first started? You don't say, I'll do, but you remember. Okay. I do too. And I was like, how is this 50 seasons? I guess they do like two sometimes a year. They do two per year.

I was 13. And I remember my parents were divorced and they came back. And we just bought this house. It was huge house, house of dreams. And we're sitting in the floor because we had no furniture. We're just moving. Just the TV. And this is the first show that come on that summer.

And we're watching this show is eating pizza and I'm like, I need to be part of this somehow. I could not stop talking about it. Wow, from the beginning. So are you an outdoorsy person? No. Okay, that's what I said, I don't go to the gym. I love fashion. I mean, I'm from Puerto Rico.

Everything is outdoors, right? Oh, so you are outdoorsy? I mean, yes or no? I'm weatherproof. Okay, you can withstand. Yeah, okay. So I was like, I'm going to be part of it. And my life just continued.

And I was like, I studied communication at Syracuse University because I thought that was going to be my way in. Then I live in New York City for like four years. But I was like, this is never going to happen. And then I moved to Puerto Rico. And I applied one time telling them that I was living in New York with my driver's license. Because they were not open Puerto Rico applications.

Wait, really? So they got me into the process because it was COVID. And now they had like the 50% bike up. you have to be like 50% of the cast have to be people of color. Yeah, yeah. So I was like, I think this is my way in. And they called me. And as soon as they called me, I bought my Flint because on Survivor, you have to do fire.

And I said to myself, I'm going to win. And I said to myself every day in the mirror, you're going to win Survivor, you're going to win Survivor. You're going to win Survivor. And I got on it and I won. That is crazy. So you really did manifest just by speaking it to an existence. Yes. Wait, I literally, okay, I want to like start with like the lore.

You get it. You got on your fire. You had to bring your own flint, so you knew how to start a fire? They only give you now a pot, a machete, and a flint.

A machete? That you have to earn. That you have to earn. Yes, because you're in the joke of it. There's no open buffet and, like, catering. You have to do your own thing. You're eating papaya, snails.

What are you using the machete on? On the snail? Because you're doing, you're doing the shelter. You're chopping the wood to, like, burn it. Not like pigs. Well, if you find a pig, that would be amazing, but there's no pigs.

There's goats, but on Fiji, you cannot touch goat because they're like sacred. So there's goats around. You can get the chicken, but we never got chicken. Wait, why? Because you earned them on challenges. And in my season, they were like, they got us very little things on their rewards, and we were like literally starving. I lost 42 pounds on my game.

42 pounds. But like, starving. I look amazing. I mean, there's some abs. There's some abs that if you find, you might see a picture of me from when I cut back from Survivor

because I look amazing. But were you like miserable? I was having so much fun. Oh, really? No, I mean, I was hungry, but I knew everybody was hungry. I was like, everyone. If everybody's hungry, I can be hungry.

And you were fine. Your mood didn't affect it. And then some people won rewards and they got food and then I got mad. You smell it. Once they started eating it. How do they get that food in there? By rewards.

But like how do they fly it in? Like helicopter or what? So production, it's like 100 people production. It's like over there. So when they have this department where if there's a reward, it's always cold. It looks pretty, but it's like been sitting there for hours. Which you would take though, I guess if you're starving. Yes.

I got one time I got sandwiches, like we did like pedicures, which is very amazing because I own a her salon. So I got a pedicure while playing Survivor. a survivor. Was it worth it or I would rather have like a pizza I feel than a pedicure? It came with food so I was really happy. Oh, came with, okay. I was like you got one or the other. With macaroons and everything and little like tea sandwiches.

I was like, whoa. Tea sandwiches, give me a foot longer. Yeah, take me to a food court. And then at the final we got this breakfast that we get to cook ourselves, which is cool. So they give you like some bacon, like put it over the fire. The last day. It's always like part of the thing on Survivor. If you get there to the last day, you get the final.

breakfast, which is like all the things you need to do at breakfast, egg, bacon, avocado, bread, and they bring you like a griddle. So you put on top of your fire. They bring you a champagne bottle. Wow. But our final three was with Carolyn. Carolyn Wigger, traders from last season. And she doesn't drink.

So it was more for me. Oh, y'all take that one. Imagine going drunk into Final Travel Council. It's like, ah, it's worked out. That's why you want. Everyone's like, we love. That is, that to me, the hunger part would get me. I did a big brother and I self-evicted because they weren't, like,

there wasn't enough food in the house. I was like, I can't eat, you know. I saw a clue that they were going to give you a pizza, but you could not have safety or something. Yeah, they're like, put yourself up for eviction. I'm like, done and done, give me that pizza. And it still wasn't enough, but I still was like, get me out of here. It really affected me. Mine was 10 days in and I was like, I need to go, you know?

So that's crazy that you, that means you have very strong, like, willpower, you don't have, like, a food addiction. And you were upset about no wash cloths. No wash cloths. Because in Survivor, it's like the ocean, right? It is. Yeah, how are you watching it? Okay, is that too personal?

So my thing is like, I got famous because at the first episode, I said, I'm so excited. I was so excited. I can't wait to see Jeff. I can wait to no shower, not brush my teeth. Poop in the ocean. Bring it! So that's like my thing. And everybody was like, did you?

I was like, that was the best. I did it after I came home. When I was going to the beach, I would go to the beach because, you know, in Puerto Rico, there's popular beaches. But there are ones that are like less people and I was just going to the water and do it. You know what? People should assume that in an ocean anyways, that people are just peeing and pooping in there. Like, that's probably an assumption everyone can make. And you need to wipe. Oh, it's like a bidet all over.

Nature's bidet. Yeah, it's just like soaked in a bidet. I mean, it's not my most glamorous aspect in life, but it happens. Okay, it's real. And honestly, can I tell you to? I'm also someone who's like, I don't love to shower. That does kind of sound nice enough to, like, go into a shower, you know, just kind of bathe in the ocean. I'm going to with you.

It's disgusting. That part is bad. That part is bad. I would go into the water every day, but some people didn't go in for the whole month. And they were smelly. Oh, no, you like smelled it. Yeah, yeah. I would try where every day in the water, in the ocean, and then at the water well, I would do like my beard.

And that's how I did a lot of my, like, alliances. I would go with the girls that had long hair to the water world in the morning, like do my beer, but talk with them. And then I would go with the boys to the water and the ocean and watch myself. And I had my little cruise. I was going to say, how do you think? Like, obviously you, like, said it out loud that you were going to win, but was there, like, a strategy? Was it just, like, be nice to everyone, like, be friends with everybody and then no one, you'd have no enemies? That's 100% how I went for it.

Because I wanted to be, like, super social, know what everybody was doing and not be a threat. So I would be going to them and I was like, oh, my God, I heard this about me. What do you think? And then people's like, no, don't worry. This is what we're doing. I was like, oh, thank you. And then I would go to the other person and say, like, oh, my God, I think it's happening. because this person told me this is happening,

but I think it's being said, no, no, it's not what this person is doing. This is what we're doing. So I would get everybody's information. Even though I was a threat because everybody liked me in the middle way of the game, the middle part when it merged at the beginning, that threat went away really fast

because I made myself vulnerable. And then people thought that they had to protect me. Oh, no, Jam Jam is with us. It's our number. He would never. No, it's okay. He's not going to, like, why would he win? He's like just Jam Jam.

You know, he's having. fun and he's a number. So we, Caroline and I and Carson, from being the bottom of the three tribes, three people versus five and six, we got all the way to the final four. Wow. And so by the end, because like Carolyn didn't have enemies either. They just kind of just like chill and cool. They didn't believe she did a good game and she didn't sell it for, I thought she did, she had a great game. But at the final tribal council, you have to talk with the jury. And she was like saying nothing. Yeah, well, you're good. You're good at like people just liking you. I would vote for you. Even if you like backstop me. I'd be like, give it a chance. You know what I mean?

I told them. I told them. I was like, this happened, this happened, this happened, and I backstop everyone. Yeah. But I told them why. And they respected that. Yeah. So, okay, so did you try to use that same strategy going into traders? Oh, traitors so hard, girl. Is it? I love it. It's so hard because there's... It's two parts of the game. Of course, everybody sees like, there's the traitors and there's the faithfuls. Yeah. And only the traders have the whole information. Yeah. So if you're not a traitor and you're a faithful, the only thing you can do is, yes. try to befriend everyone, but everybody thinks you're a traitor. You did befriend everybody.

I tried. You're, I don't think it's fair, this is my opinion, that, like, the way you're eliminated because it's like, it's not. Because we were friends. It's, you're friends. And also, it's like, I don't know, like, because you touched, you know what I mean? Like, that seems a little. What I'm a little.

Did you even think? I had no idea. I had no idea. I went in and I asked, I was like, so this banquet is going to be like, what? I was like, no, it's not a little. about halfway of the game. I was like, oh my God, you have a celebration. So you know, because in other seasons of traders,

especially UK, they do these dinners. And in the dinners, they're just cheering and celebrating life and saying nice thing about everyone. So I was like, this is what's going on. So you really, so you did not think it was a part of gameplay. You're like, this is just for the gag. When I got there and I saw everything that was on the table, the black roses, the cards, the tarot cards,

the different challenges. and chairs. I was like, I think something might go down, but I'm not going to follow anybody's instruction. I'm not going to take what everybody tells me to do. I'm not going to drink it. I'm not going to eat it. I'm not going to sit what they tell me to sit.

Oh, so you kind of were aware then. Yes. But then Lisa walks in with this amazing outfit. Yeah. And Lisa and I were friends. I mean, I think Lisa is one of the most amazing persons in the whole cast. I mean, I love Rob. I love Natalie.

I love, like, a lot of people. but I found her so special because since I was a kid, a big reality TV fan, Lisa has been part of the reality TV. She is the most iconic, for sure. So I was like into her so much that when I see her walking, I was like, oh my God, you look amazing! And then she goes like, oh, the brooch pinched. She was like, let me help you. Isn't that stupid?

Oh, my God. Do you like, have you been able to let it go? Are you just like... The only thing that makes it worth it is that Lisa and I text. back and forth. Okay. And DM. So you got the friendship.

Yes, I mean, yes. Of course I don't live in LA or she has a very different life. But she's so cool and she's so real and she's amazing. But she killed you. But that is, I guess that is kind of right, what traders is the backstap. That's what kind of makes a good trader. Would you have wanted to be a traitor?

I would have loved to be a traitor. I mean, the show is traitors. And when Candy says, it's not named the faithfuls, it's named the traitors. That's exactly what I wanted to have. They didn't put a game player as a traitor. That is the first time because Carolyn was, right? Carolyn was a true.

That is kind of wild that they did do that. First season, they got Ceri, that won. She's from Survivor. Second season, they had Parvety. And they also had a Big Brother guy from first season. It was a Big Brother guy and Ceri. Ceri won. Second season, they had a Big Brother, another Big Brother guy,

that brought in Parvati, which is from Survivor. Third season, they had Carolyn and Rob, Boston Robb, and Daniel from Big Brother. So everybody. Oh, it was all game players. Life is crazy, right? And people are crazy. Yeah. So I have this fear that if I cannot control things,

so whenever I want to order something that I know how it tastes, and then they don't make it how I like it, then I get disappointed and mad. Oh, me all the time. Stuff that people cannot mess up. Sparkling water, black coffee. We have sparkling water out there if you need to talk with you go. And beer.

That can never mean stuff. Well, you said beer, but you didn't specify it like a modolo. Be a blonde beer. Yeah, Modela would be awesome. Oh, okay. Well, we can get a pillow for sure. Oh, yeah, we have the sparkling water. Yes, that's good, because I'm the same way.

If someone messes that up, I'm just like, hopefully I didn't mess it up. I was very, look, there's nothing else on there, but if you don't like it. You probably did an amazing job. I don't know. I'm really not great at that. I'm a very plain person as well, and I'm like, if something, if there's like cheese on my egg muffin, I'm like, I can't eat it.

He's like, let me just take it off. I was like, no, you know what I mean? I'll eat it, but I'll eat it, but I'll eat it. Oh, okay, I'm just not gonna be happy and won't eat it. Then I'll be even more mad because I'm hungry. I'll be like, thank you. Oh, do you? Okay, that's nice. That's more of play.

I'm definitely just like, I just sit there and don't eat and just make everybody feel awkward. I'm like, nope, can't eat anything and then I just, I have an issue with food. I'm trying to like rewire it, but it's a whole thing. Can I put this here? Yeah, you can put it here. You put it wherever you want.

Yeah, put it wherever you want. Um, that's what they told me yesterday. Kidin. That's not, that's not proper. What happened yesterday? I don't know. Okay. I love you.

Put it wherever you want. You were so much. I love your personality so much even through text and stuff like that because like the first thing I was like you had such an iconic exit and you just write, it's Lisa! And I love this person. And I wish we could have seen more of the person. Like you did do, like there are people who are giving nothing. Not to say they're not giving nothing.

Well, also maybe edit. Mark. Nothing. No, I didn't know who they weren't. Like, oh, I'm still like my husband. I said me. My husband was like, oh, I'm going to see Stephen. It was like, who's Stephen?

He's the one from... Laguna Beach. He's amazing. Like, Mark, I know, because the answer is it starts, but he's giving nothing. But maybe the edit is just he's giving nothing right now. A lot of them that get farther into the game of the ones that have survived, banishments or murder so far played a very low-key game. Because that's the strategy on traitors.

If you want to get far, you need to be low-key. Yes. Because if you are a traitor and you're too loud, they're going to banish you. Yeah. And if you are a faithful that is too loud and you get the traitor right, then you're going to get murder. So people that are noisy at the beginning are the ones that get to leave the game. I see, but then you just make more of an impact.

Like I do feel like I remember the loud ones, I guess you could say. Because at the end, the traitors, last traitors and no, no shade. Obviously, I loved Gabby, Dylan. But like, some of I didn't even know. Like, you know, that one, the one housewife. Dolores and Lord Iberberger. No, I forgot about him. Lord Iver.

He was. He was. He won. That's my point. There was four winners. I'm like, I can't think of the other two. Even the last traitors, Britney from Big Brother, people don't remember her. Yeah, I don't know.

And she's an amazing Big Brother player, like one of the most amazing ones. But then you go on this show and, for example, Sandra, two-time Survivor winner, Puerto Rican. Yes. Amazing. Loved. Like, if you need a reality TV fairy godmother that tells you what to do, that's her. Okay. But she got fifth place on her season and tell me.

what happened with her on the game? I guess just... I remember her... Did she face up with Janelle? Was that? Yes. I remember that. And she invented the term

traitor angel, which is a very big strategy for faithfuls. And she taught people how to play with numbers. Because at the end of the game is a numbers game. You want to go to the end.

Yes. And this is what happened with Candice. She, just because she wanted to play a faithful game, she murdered or banished people that were going to probably protect her. But by the time, Candice goes to this roundtable, everybody that's left is Rob's friend.

That is such a good point. And I think, like, because I'm, first off all, I'm the worst as strategy. Like, I would be the first out because I have no strategy whatsoever. Like, I always feel like, but now I'm like learning as I watch the show. I'm, I know if you know a trader, keep that trader around. Don't be like, let's banish it. Like, you want to keep it to the end. So I thought the trader were Stephen and Mora.

Stephen and what's Mora? Mora. Mora Higgins from Love Island, Irish. Oh, okay, okay. Yes, yes, yes. So I was like, they've never had in the U.S. traitor, a traitor that is not a U.S. citizen, right? So I was like, wouldn't be an amazing that it's her?

Because we had Caroline Sonsbury from London under door Dubai and her from Ireland. Oh. And I was like, it's probably her. So I was like very close to her, but she also thought I was a traitor. You know, she told you after? She told me after that she was going like that in my back all the time. Oh, my God. So they never showed that.

I was like, I wish they thought because they think her. Angel. Put that on the reunion. That's so bad. I would tell her tomorrow. Did people take it a little too seriously, the show? I feel like I took it too seriously. You did.

At the beginning with Michael Rappaport and everything, it was just too much for me. Trigger, trigger warning. So I took it very personal because I thought, okay, we're playing a game, but this guy, everything he's saying, it's like, it felt directed at who I am. Not how I am playing, but who I am. It just felt that way. Like, not even what we saw on camera, like off camera too. Some of the stuff he would say, like, about how I pronounce my name or for all this stuff. And it was just, even when people were telling him, it was like, it's not yam, yeah, it's jam jam.

Yeah. I was like, I don't care. I'm from New York. I think Porsche said that, like, they actually edit, the edit was in his favor because he was worse in the gas. Yeah. Yeah, he had an amazing edit. I mean, he's really good TV. Well.

If I was not there with him. Right. you weren't, I don't know, though, like, Oscar didn't watch it with Michael Rapport. He's like, I cannot watch it with him in it. Yeah, he just, like, suck the life out of the room. I kind of agree. Like, there is, like, good TV villains, right? There's those ones that you just, like, love to hate.

And you're like, oh, there's such a good villain. I just think he was not. Like, he was just like, he was just like. Unlikable. Like, just a fucking shit to make people feel uncomfortable and just because he, he thrives in that energy. You know what I'm saying? So I was wrapped into it.

And then after he leaves. after he said to Colton about the closet thing, I go, I switch in my brain, I was like, I need to go back to what I was on Survivor, which is like a happy, bubbly person, and having fun. And this is when I started connecting with Lisa. But I guess too close. The beginning of the end.

Yeah. Which I mean, yeah, I guess you just don't know when you're in that house. Like, I just don't know how you could ever guess who's who. Like, you just have no idea. There's people that are like focused on it. And I felt like I was trying to do that. but it's just if it's like a slippery slope. Yeah.

If for some reason, I think it's you for whatever you said, then I'm hyper-focused on what you're doing and I forget about other people. So if you don't catch it from the beginning, and I think Caroline and Monet catch Lisa, and that's why they were murdered so early, that's why I was never going to think it was a Candace rapper Lisa.

It was like, no, Donna, I got minute one. As soon as I saw her come up the car, she's going to be a creative. I forgot she was on too. Mom, Kelsey. Right away, you're like, it's her. Yeah. Yeah, that was kind of a weird twist that they put in there, but I mean, love.

It was a weird twist because you have this lady that says she's not part of this world, which I'm not. I mean, she's more part of it than I am of the celebrity world. Oh, I see. And she goes, and they make her a traitor, but she's like an older lady, even though she's like really, really successful in whatever she did at banking and mortgages and stuff in Florida. but she's doing this work by herself. Yeah. So if you go into this world with all these people and like characters, and on top of it, you're giving a responsibility that you cannot share to anyone,

it isolates you. Yeah. And I think that's what was a given. She was always like paranoid, like looking, or she looked like she was. Maybe she wasn't. But it didn't read as this person is here to have fun. She was like probably like measuring every single word she was going to say not to give it away. Yeah.

Also when you're older, it's just like, It is just heart in general, like the physical activities and stuff. I was like, I couldn't do it. There was a chariot thing. First of all, she's like way taller than me. She's like her kids' bodies. I don't know what, no. For a 78 year old, I think she is.

Wow. So she did the challenges. She did the rowing in my boat the first episode. And then on the chariot, she did half of the chariots because it was hard. Yeah. But I have to give it to her. She was not given like a good, she was not given an easy out. She had to do everything and she did it.

Because I don't think I could do any of those physical challenges. Like the rowing, out right away. I would just sit there. But that would be so cute. Like, you would be complaining and you'd be like, I can't row. You would vote me out just for being annoying. They'd give me that vote. I don't care if you're a faithful trader, you're out.

Because even Survivor, like, how do you do like physical challenges? I couldn't do it. But no way. There's no way in a hell I could do Survivor. That's insane. Were you back for the, were you back for this 50th, the All-Star one? No, I wasn't reached. Did they reach out?

You should have been. I feel like, like, honestly. Like everyone knows. You're going to make me cry, Trisha. Oh. Sorry. I mean, they were Survivor 50 and Traders' Season 4 were filmed at the same time. Oh, so you could have done it.

So, but I was not. I'm coming out. There's people that have been saying, oh, my God, no, they reached out and I said, no. No way they said no to Survivor 50. I'm going to be honest. Oh. I was not asked. Okay.

And it hurt. I would have been part of the conversation. I mean, you're a winner. It's all winners. No. No. No. Well, all winners were 40.

Oh. And for 50 is like this celebration of the show. And it's called Survivor 50 in the hands of the fan. So it's the first time they do 24 players. The most they've done is 20 people. And they pick three winners from the new era, which I would have been one of those. And everybody else is like icons and legends. Oh, okay.

Well, you're an icon of legend. Not everyone's an icon and legend. Well, these people are my friends. I'm not going to say that they are not icon or legends. Some just played the game. but there are legends some stars, some legends. Everybody that is before 40,

everybody that is before 40, it's an icon. Yeah, I agree. Everybody that got casted from the new era, maybe they are, it's been sad by fans. Choices. Choices. Oscar, I'm sorry, but Oscar said they're flops.

I mean, let's give them a chance. Well, you know, you made it on traitors and I really do feel like, because I'm so not. I don't watch Big Brother Survivor. So it's like, I think if you make it on traitors, then you're like a one of the stars. Exactly.

Yeah, like no one else. No other flop would be on there. And then when I found out you want it, I was like, oh my gosh, that's amazing. But you're right. I don't, I think like you can't, you can't have traders without game players, then it's just boring.

Like if it's all housewives, like you said, they kind of ran the turret and stuff like that. And it's just like, well, they don't know how to play. You know what I mean? Well, it was good when like, was it Daniel and Carolyn Carolyn, when they were like going at each other, you know, as traders.

It was like that's so much fun. That makes good TV, right? It's like, so amazing. And I think Rob and Candice is going back and forth. Yeah. On the last episode. Oh, that was good. She said, he said, this is the game.

It's called traitors. I was like, well, you're not a traitor or snake. Yeah. No, the housewis have lines. Like, I feel like they have scripted writers. I was like, how do you have these lines there? Do they go to school for it? I know.

Like, how are you so fierce? They're good at reading. What do you think about Alan, him saying Danielle is like the worst trader in history and he puts like Rob up there as like the best. I think Rob is amazing. I think Rob is doing great. I give that. I think I agree with Ellen in that.

But the Daniel thing, oh, I have to call Daniel and ask what she thinks. Yeah. She didn't even remember the name. Yeah. Wait, what happened? He like, he ranked like who's the, he named the best trader out of the show

and like the worst trader out of all the seasons. Yeah. On what? On what? What did he say? One of the talk shows. I forget which one. There's such a publicist for traitor.

Do they not be like, hey, let's not. I mean, love. I love Alan. I love Alan. Alan is, can do whatever he can. He wants. He's amazing.

No, he's legend. But if you're Danielle and you hear the host of the show say, he thinks you're one of the worst traitors, and he doesn't remember your name when he's saying it. It's getting rude with jinx, though. Jinks is an icon. And Rue.

You know what is your name? What is your name? Yeah. What is your name? Yeah. You know, I think when you're like, you're hosting, You're doing a lot. You are older.

I don't remember. I don't remember people's names all the time. And it's not even like a rude thing. Sometimes you just don't remember. I don't think she's the worst, though. I think she was committed to the cause. She decided to come in and be a mess or act like she was a mess. And she did her thing.

I would say, Danielle, if you're watching, I think you might be the best traitor because I loved her reaction when she was like, oh my God. Like that was so. And they believed it. Yeah. Yeah. So stupid. It was like, and that was good, right? People were like, oh, it's okay, it's okay.

She killed. She was like, on my grandkids. I was like, oh, girl, like, that's like ruthless. No, she's, she's fierce and she's committed. I think it was the best. And she out of everybody except Ceree so far, she's the traitor that had made it the farthest. Yeah. Yeah, so that's, pretty good.

Yeah. Her and Brittany, but they were basically together. Yeah. Maybe he got it mixed up. So, yeah. There was another Danielle on the show. Maybe he got mixed up with a little. Plus it?

Right? I feel like that'd be another. Daniel, Brittany, they're all, you know, like those names. That's why I love a Jam Jam. My kid, I have Aquaman as my son. I love a name that's unique because you'll never forget. Alan love saying your name. Oh my God.

You Jam Jam! It's you Jam Jam! Wait, why did, first of all, okay, that's my favorite moment ever in all of Traders for real, for real. It was so good. And it was like, did he like redo that or was that? No, it was one take. It was one take. I think, I think, well, he did it one time with me only.

Maybe he did it afterwards again, but no. Were you shook? Were you like, what? It's so abreast. I mean, I was obviously disappointed, mad surprise. But my husband told me, I was like, I'm happy that when you got murder, you were calm. Because if you look at my face, I go like, I told you it was me. Because I told Mark that I thought it was going to be me.

And then when Mark did not believe me what I was saying, that it was Lisa or the people that were near me were not believing me, that's when I started screaming. But I started screaming, it's Lisa. Lisa, Lisa kiss me. Because they were asking me, what do you mean? What do you mean? As I'm being dragged out. They're like questioning me. Like 20 questions, Jam Jam, Jam.

Hold them in it. I need to ask you something. I was like, dude, it was Lisa. It was Lisa. Okay, it was not the kiss, but I definitely felt that she shifted. And I said this somewhere else I remember where, but I said like, because Lisa and I had connected, right, I felt I connected personally, like in the cars and stuff. When she was stuck into me in the banquet, it felt so much extra.

And I say in the episode, there's something about your eyes. There's like stars in your eyes on the way you're talking to me. But it was that she was acting with me. It became Lisa the housewife or Lisa, the actress. And that's why I felt something happened that it was not what it was normal for me. And that's why I started screaming. It was her. Yeah, you like felt like, okay, because that was chaotic.

So are they actually like dragging you away? Oh my God. They pulled the chair away. It's super heavy. And they start grabbing me from their armpits. And they're like, I thought I was going like this. But I was walking. So are they, because I'm so, I hate when people try to pick me up or do anything.

If they try to drag me out of there, first of all, I'd be a sack of potatoes. I'm like, you know, like, they weren't carried away. Yes. Is it like, are they doing it like? It was physical. Yeah. I mean, I did not get hurt physically, but it was very strong. It was very real.

I wish I just like take it mark with me and grabbing my head. the hair and take him out like, fuck him. No, I said before you got here, I was like, I'd be going out the same way too. I would literally be, especially because like, but it was, it almost just seemed like scripted or like acted out, like they kind of gave you a script or something, but you're like, it's all. That's what Mark told, asked me. And I saw him like a month ago, he goes like, were you acting? I was like, no, dude. That's the whole thing about me. This is exactly who I am. Yeah. I'm not overacting. This is what you get. And this is why people didn't trust me

in the castle because they were like, what this guy is about? He's like on all the the time. And I'm like, well, I'm in traitors in Scotland in the castle with 22 people that I've known since I'm like 13 years old. I was like, of course I'm going to be excited. Yeah, you were giving. You were giving excitement. But I just think you just had such a dramatic exit with Alan, even everything. Everything was so dramatic. Even when they like murder people in the seats, you know, when they get their little car. Oh, that would be horrible. It's like, but it's also like not dramatic. I'm like, they should do something like kind of escape the nighties where they're like, something like something. Like they scripted death. Yeah. They should go, uh, you know, like something.

but at least you got a drama one. At least you got a dramatic ice at. Had they prompted like, whoever gets picked at the banquet needs to go like, yeah. You should have done it. Well, that's how I'll die.

Maybe next time they'll do it. Yeah, they're talking about doing an all-stars trader. Have you seen that? I've seen a few posts. They definitely need redemption. They gave Dorinda a chance back. It's like, they definitely need a give. You know what I mean?

You need to be there. I think after my murder, that Lisa targeted me for being a very helpful friend. She knew. She knew you would, like, you would help her. she knew it. Yeah.

They need to redeem my death. And like, they should do, like, a twist of, like, everybody that got murdered in plain sight or whatever or, like, face to face. Yeah. And then bring us back, like, zombies. Ooh. A little theatrical. Yes.

I mean, that show can stand anything. Yeah. No, there really is. And the budget just keep going up and up, and I love it. What are you most nervous about for your reunion tomorrow? Oh, I'm afraid that somebody's going to be where. my same color. Real.

Okay. Would you like approve for that? Someone's going to be mad? No, I don't think so. If you have a stylist husband and your style, I don't think anyone

that's going to be matching you. I mean, that's a parade number one. Okay. And my second one, because these people just want to have air time. I was like,

you're going to come for me. I'm like, you think, but there's nothing to come for you for, right? You kind of wear a perfect face. Gamers and Survivor fans are very, very, very, very

intense. And I feel like maybe some of the other survivor players or big brother players are going to say something about like the gamers did not work together. Okay. That's kind of valid. Why didn't you like team up with like? I tried, but they didn't trust in me. Other survivor people. So who's the survivors on there? The gamers per se because we talk about like every single season there's been multiple gamers in the turret. So we go into this season. There's not a gamer in the turret. So what happens with the gamers? They don't trust each other. because I go like, I'm not a traitor. You must be a traitor or you or you or you

and everybody has the same energy. So that brings down the gamer, the ability of gamers to work with each other. But even if there was a traitor in there, it would be like, let's just all gamers stick together and get like the other. Especially like the random ones, like the Michael Rapoport. Like he has no one in there.

You know what I mean? Like you could have just easily gotten those people out and stuck with like Survivor, big brother until like the end. Exactly. But the first two murders were gamers. So there's three left. And then one of the gamers, Tiffany, comes for me And then my group of friends protect me and we banished her

So it's only Natalie and I left And we were working together. Okay. So it's a weird spin on like the web and Twitter and stuff And chat BCCC was like why gamers didn't work together But we never had a chance. Yeah, well I guess for future traders You could be like, hey, let's work with our people.

I think it is hard though now for the gamers after I guess kind of after Parviti season, right? because like the traders being so like gamer focused and so like strategic now I feel like there's no matter what gaming franchiser from there's going to be a cloud over all of them like Survivor and Big Brother like they're always people are going to be suspicious right like if you're going there I feel like you'll be suspicious of anyone who's on Survivor I'm gonna work with the gamers I'm gonna listen everybody I'm mad at housewife as Lisa Rennett says don't put me in there with the content creators I am there's never a content creator on there but like

I would be what the gamer is. I wasn't going to put that. You know how like the one from Laguna Beach is like, oh, I'm from one tree. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to say that with Big Brother. I'm actually, I'm from Big Brother. I think every season they're putting more people that are not housewives or gamers. So I think that crowd, because we had Donna, Eric, Ron, and I think two more people that were not, you know, the rest of the same kind of people.

Yeah. You would have like a big group if you were. If they weren't together, but they don't because they're not game players and they have no strategy, which is me. But I would go also with someone. But that's why I said, even for drag racing, you need to have some more drag, like, some more queens in there. Oh, my God, totally. Because it's not fair. It's just, like, one.

And if you're, like, in the same show, like, you know, you just kind of, like, have that, like, camaraderie and stuff like that. And I feel like the queens get out way too early. They would make the best entertainment. But like, like, I think it's just anybody who's entertaining. They want to get out, you know? They're like, well, yeah, because they think we're doing it on purpose. And we're just extra because we want to throw people out. And it's not because of that.

I walk in, and I not necessarily did the traitor, the gamers, Alliance thing, not, I tried. They did not want to work with me, but I did the natural thing of like try to befriend people that were enjoying my presence. Yeah, you should. Like, we would have done so good. If I saw you and traders,

I would have been had your back no matter what. Oh, I love it. You would have killed me. I wouldn't care. I'd been like, it's fine. I would never kill you, maybe. Yeah, you definitely be what I shouldn't trust, but I'd be like,

I'd be like, I like, I like, because it really is for me. I would feel like such a social game. I would just like keep the ones that I want around. You know what I mean? Yeah. I want this person around.

That was my whole thing was like, why be boring? I told production of Dragger Murder. I was like, don't cast boring people again. And I'm not saying these are boring people in real life, but they were so afraid of everything that they were quiet. I agree with that. This season, it feels, yeah, I love it where I'm seated for it, but yeah, it could have had more.

More umph. Even at like Boston Robb, I didn't know his game. I didn't know anything about him. But I was like, oh, I like this person because he was like entertaining. You know what I mean? And Carolyn and all of them. Like, they were, they entertained me. And I was like, oh, I like that.

But yeah, this is. I don't like Boston Rob a lot. Oops. I'm a survivor winner. Oh, he got. I was charming. I don't know nothing about him. He seemed.

But I've always been more about like the powerful woman figure. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. Okay. And Boston Rob is like on the other spectrum of that. Not that he's not a cool kid or anything, but. Not your vibe.

I was like, like, of course he's going to be a traitor. Yeah. I was just everyone was gag from something. I'm like, I'm gonna get, you know, I just like go with the hype. I mean, how many seasons it took him to win Survivor? Four? Four? And he went back.

Sorry, Boston Rob. Damn. Sorry, Amber is the wife. She also won't Survivor, but first and him. And he went back with this season. It was Redemption Island with like the supervillain Russell. And it was the two of them returning with everybody that was a fan. And they, from what I've heard.

Who cares? Who cares what I've heard? Let's make a story. Storytelling time. Yeah, storytelling. Let's hear it. Storytelling time. So apparently they asked the people in that season, it was season 22. It was his fourth season. He played Marquis as All-Stars, which his wife won. And Hero versus Villain. And then he went back to Redemption Island with Russell. They asked people if they were Rob fans or Russell's fans, like in the casting process. And everybody that said they were a Russell fan, they put on... Everybody that said that we're a Rup fan, they put on Boston Robstripe. T's. And everybody that said they hated Russell, they put on Russell's tribe.

So the power dynamic was like, yeah. So that's why Russell didn't last it a long time on Redemption Island, but everybody that was on Rubs and Rob's tribe, obviously, I mean, that's just something that's been said. Of course, I don't, whatever, it's a rumor. Citation, gossip, what is the word of like, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. I need the thing. Allegedly. Allegedly.

In an alternative universe, Janjans heard this. For entertainment purposes. But, I mean, it makes sense. He still has to get to the end and win. But if you, like, get dealt the cards that you get dealt, then. Yeah. I mean, that is, Survivor just seems, if you could do an all-star, if you had a pick,

you could do All-Star Trader, All-Star Survivor. Which one are you picking? All-Star Traders. Wow. Yeah. Because I think I need a little redemption. Yes. You serve more looks on there too.

It's so much fun. You get to shower. It could win an Emmy. It's been winning Emmys. Oh, I wanted to win an Emmy. Are you going to go? They all get to go, right? Because the queens get to go for drag race.

So it depends. Who gets invited? Hopefully I will get invited. If now you'll see me from the street screaming, it's Lisa! I feel like the four-year consideration, like DVD or whatever. It has to be that scene.

That's like the highlight of the season. You should accept the award. Because to me, that was the best part. I should go into the thing and say, It's traitors! So for Survivor, I went for the Emmy. I went to the Emmys. You did!

Because my season of Survivor was the first season of Survivor to be nominated for Best Show in 14 years. Wow. And I think that's why Carlin and I got also invited to do other stuff because our season was such a big impact on the culture of Survivor. That's huge. So it wasn't, yeah, for 14 years, not a nomination. We got nominated, so I went.

Then last year, it got nominated. again after our season, so it was like two years after. Wow. But now Traders is taking everything. And so every. This might be the one again for you. If we get nominated, the two shows I've done were nominated. That's not, that's not everything.

It is like, you're nominated, basically. I feel like you should all get the, right? They all get the nomination if it's the castors and just like the producers. Yes, you really are. You are. If you could do any other reality show, what would you do? I always said I wanted to do that with the stars. Oh.

You're going to do that. That's obvious. You imagine me is also dancing there? Yes. Are you a dancer? I have a good rhythm. I don't have the cardio. I would need to like work on it.

First of all, you went on Survivor and didn't eat for 42 days. That's pretty impressive. I think you couldn't do the cardio. But the burst of energies on Survivor is very like little. It's like 15 minutes of energy. Yeah, dancer starts in a minute. Oh.

You know what I mean? You just have to do a little bit. Weeks and chalysis and stuff. Okay, I'll do it. I'll do it. I feel like that's a very easy transition. Most people who do traders go to dancing. Imagine.

They say, Jam, Jam, Arrocha. Doing the stamba! That was perfect. That's beautiful. Oh my God, that's going to be actually so amazing. I see it for you. Dancing the Stars will be the one for sure. Maybe you both be on the same season.

Oh, my God. I'm also trying to get on that next season of it. I would love. Because you weren't just such a vibe. You have just such a good vibe. And like watching traders. It's about having fun. What's the point on going on this show and not having fun?

I wish I had more fun at the beginning. But I think by the end of it and now I'm having fun with everything that's coming. It's Michael Rob Ports fault. Clearly. Right? Like, no, but that's not fair. That is not fair. That's why everyone should get a redo.

Everyone who was like in that season, like they should all get a redo because it's like he ruined it. Like he ruined it. Like I think that's grounds right away for like elimination. If you like make fun of someone's like name or the way they pronounce it. You know what I mean? Wouldn't it have been a great opportunity for him to redeem his image and just be fun and do like crazy things and not do that stuff? Yeah. But that's not about what he does.

No. Sometimes, yeah. Can't teach an old dog new trick. No, I was excited. I feel all of this. How long you don't lay for? I'm going to be in L.A. Because until Sunday.

Okay. Are you going to like do a little vacation trip? Are you going to do anything special while you're here? Because Valentine's on Saturday. But your husband's not here. He's here. He's here, but does not here here here. With my dog.

Oh, you brought your dog? I brought my dog. He was like, take you with you. I was like, no, I'm not going to bring my dog without you. That's kind of cute, though. It's like a little child. Oh, my God. That's cute.

What's his name? He's her? Kaiser. He's a guy. Kaiser. He's black and white. And because Carl Lagerfrel from Chanel, he was named the Kaiser of fashion. So my husband is a fashion designer. The dog is black and white. Carl was black and white. So he's Kaiser. Well, this is a Valentine's Day episode. What are you guys going to do for Valentine's Day? Do you have plans? Yeah. I have to do something so you let me know what I can do. Yeah. Oh,

you don't have anything planned yet here. And it's our boyfriend asking anniversary. I don't know what's that called. Oh, on Valentine's. Yeah, I like I celebrate that too. Boyfriend asking anniversary. That's what it's called. Gay boyfriend asking anniversary. Yes, I love that. No, but there is those anniversaries. Like, I remember the day I was asked to be a girlfriend. I was like August 1st, when we met March 14th, when we got engaged, December 18th,

when we got married to seven months. And you like celebrating every single anniversary? Yes. And you get gifts every single anniversary? Well, I mean, we stop that a little bit. Yes, yeah, at the beginning. At the beginning. Here's the thing.

My husband wants jewelry. Okay, that's easy then. Or a gift, not necessarily jewelry. Love it. Always that would be the number one option. Yes, that's easy. At the anniversary, and I'm like, well, we need to consolidate them. This is like too many holidays.

Right, you do have to, right. Because then it does become a little, literally this Valentine's Day. I was like, just get me nothing because like it has been six years of getting gifts every year, part times a year. So jewelry is good, though, because at least that's something you can know they'll like, as opposed to like my husband doesn't like anything. Oh, does he return? Sometimes he goes back and change it.

And then he wants me to be there at the jewelry store all happy. No, you're like... But it's okay, you know? You're supportive. We haven't really been married. We've been married five years, dating seven years in July now. Wow, that is a very long time. Did you get married 2021?

We got married in COVID, 2021. Wow. Yeah, we did too, and they had the face masks, all the guests had it. And I was like, okay, this looks crazy in photos. We got married in the pool of a big hotel in Puerto Rico, and there were like four cabanas, like in the little, like, nicer area of the pool. And then we put like my family in one, my work friends in one. It was only 16 people. My college friends in one.

And then like so we divided and, you know, like distance and stuff with COVID. Yeah. There were no vaccines yet, but it was pretty. But you had to get married. Oh my God. You're a Puerto Rican icon. You should have been in a casino at Super Bowl. Oh, I thought so.

I should have been like a seat. With Jessica Alba and Cardi V and Carl G. I don't know. They didn't ask you. I haven't met, I haven't met Bad Bonnie, but we do have a lot of people that we work in common with. Oh, really? Oh, so it's a little matter of time.

Did you love the Super Bowl performance? I cried. Yeah. I was in Mexico City watching it, and we went to a Hooters, and it was super packed. They made us see with another people, like in another table with people, which is fine. I love that. First time it happened. I hope it was going to happen again.

Hooters will do that, do you know? They definitely will be like, everyone squished together, okay? That's crazy. I started to cry. Oh, yeah. Because even though it's not me, I got to do Survivor and I got to do traders being Puerto Rican and being one of the few people and do whatever I did with the shows. So I was like, this dude is doing it. Like, yeah.

In a way that it's obviously magnified and so powerful and the number one in the world right now. And I was like, yeah, go, you go, Bad Bunny. You go Benito. You do it for us. So, yeah, it got really emotional. It was really special. It was, yeah. It was like so beautiful and so impactful.

He was so tasteful the way he incorporate everything about that's going on without being your. you know, to win your face, which would have been understood. But I thought it was great. And just the education we were saying, like, the stuff I didn't know about Puerto Rico, right? Like, everyone was showing the Easter eggs of it, like, you know, the electricity and the power outers. I, like, didn't know about all that stuff. And it was crazy. It's cool because it was so beautiful to watch.

It was very to me. I love theatricalness. And it was cool. And then getting to learn about it at Puerto Rico, too, when you don't know that much about it. It's pretty cool. If you don't have a power generator in your house, you, what are you doing? Because it's like the power goes out. constantly.

It's bad. And it shouldn't be like that. Yeah, I just, I'm not, I've been once to Puerto Rico, loved it. You know what I did? I swam, you know, and like the, you know, the rivers where it like glows? Yeah. What does that call? The biofluorescent base.

Yeah, I was doing that. It's beautiful. Puerto Rico has three different bio-billin medicine water bodies. Yeah. Which is very rare. There's not a lot in the world. And we have like three of them in different colors. It was crazy.

So when you move your hand, it glows. like if you're like an avatar or something. Yeah, that's what it was giving. Yeah. It was crazy because you go out and like pitch black. It's like so dark and you're just like, are you sure there's going to be something out then? And then once you get out there, it's like so beautiful.

We went to go see Lynn do Hamilton down there. He was raising money for hurricanes. So we like went and then did that. Yeah, so it was cool. It was very, it is very pretty down there. It's amazing. I went to see that play with Le Manwell. Did you?

We were probably at the same place. In Puerto Rico? Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. Was it January of 2018? I went twice. Yeah, it was January.

I think Oprah went, like Clinton's went, like a lot of people, you went. Who gives a shit of Oprah when Trisha is there? I really got into it. I think I saw you. No. I think I saw you. I had a bedazzled Hamilton jacket with a Puerto Rico bag. It might be crazy.

Could you make me or me? You were very extra there, right? Yes, I have bedazzled. No, but like in a good way. Yeah, because then after Linda, like a little like, oh, hey, thanks everyone for coming. And he shout out. He's like, I see you, Trisha, because I was obsessed with Hamilton. Oh, my God.

I would have loved to see him in the Casita, too, because he's married to me. I knew about, what is it, Puaquas? Is that what they're called? What? Paguas. Yeah, I know about them from in the Heights. So when I saw it in the Super Bowl. Spanish freaky. Damme, damme lo duro. Oh, dao do you're naughty.

That's my song. You're singing like this. Damelo, damelo, da me doura. That is the back. It's anyway. But I love culture. I have no culture, so I love culture. What's the point about life, like in the world?

Everything is so amazing and so like variety of everything. Just enjoy everything. And after the Super Bowl, everyone was just like, well, not everyone, but you know, most people. Not all people. Yeah, normal people. Even Madonna doing the little white girls also dancing. Oh my God! Lady Gaga! She tried and people wear a missing.

You know the guy that did that dress did not know that she was going to wear it? And he was like watching it in his house. And when the crowd moves and she's wearing the dress, his name is Raoul, his brandy's lua. He starts to, that's the dress, that's the dress. You imagine doing a dress. Oh, he didn't know. He didn't know she was going to wear it for the... Oh, he probably was so gay.

Yeah, that is kind of everything. I love when stuff like that happens in life. Yeah. Like really look... Like you work for something and then you see it and then you're like, oh! Yeah, it's probably such a cool moment to see. Any desires you acting or singing or anything beyond this? I would love to, but I don't even, I don't even know what that looks like.

Do you have an agent? Are you with a manager? You always have a management. I have a manager that does all like my contacts and stuff. She wanted to be here. She's a super fan of your. She loves you. She's in Arizona because she had to work.

She told me she wanted to do mugback with you. Oh, yeah, bring her back. Bring her back. We'll do one all together. That'd be so much fun. She played Survivor with me. She got six place. Her name is Jamie.

Oh, and she's your manager? Yeah, because I was like, I don't trust anyone. Yeah. Wow. So she reviews all my contracts and she answers all my emails. When I went on traders, she was, like, on control of my social media. Oh, wow. Okay.

You know, you don't, when I went on traders, I didn't tell anyone. Oh, you can't. No, I did. I've heard of people that, like, if you know, if you know I was on it. Yeah. You want to be on it. You was like, jam, jam, what should I do when I go there? And it's like, I did not do that.

I just told my husband, I told her, and then I told two people from work, like a week before I went. Okay. And because she was such a confident during that process, then that's how she turned out to be, like, everything with the contracts and stuff. Wow. That's amazing that you, like, found her that way. Because they announced the cast before you go on, right? Did they not? They announced it after we're there.

Oh, after. Oh, so in the plain land. Oh, because as I'm preparing, I'm hoping one day to be asked to be on traders. I always wanted that, too. I was like, if I show up in Scotland, aren't people going to be like, oh, that's Trish coming to Scotland. I don't know how they did it last season because they just put the names. But when we got there, because they put our video of us in our first date outfits in our season. Oh, okay.

So I guess they record that. And when we're there, because we don't have a cell phone or anything, that's when they released it. Oh, first day up. Okay, got it. Because they don't want it to be spoiled, I guess, Peacock once, like all the promotion and all the, like, engagement with their page. Yeah. So that's when our names and pictures were released by Ellen, which was. Amazing.

That's so cool. What a cool experience at all. Why is he so much? Are you based in New York now? Are you in Puerto Rico now? I live in Puerto Rico and Mexico. And then I travel to New York a lot and then L.A., of course, now I'm closer. Yeah.

But no, I own a her salon in Puerto Rico. Oh, my God. I had no idea. Yeah, that's my background. Wait, are you a hairstylist? Are you a hairstylist? I did study to be a hairstylist, but it's a family tradition. Okay.

So, but I do own my own her salon since 2011. Wow. It were the best. Oh, wait. What's the hair salon? Or do you want to say? It's called Miranda Beauty. Oh, okay.

Yes, it's amazing. It's like we are, I say we are the best nail salon in Puerto Rico, and obviously we have an amazing stylist, but I'm really proud of my nail. Oh, nail salon too. Yeah. Oh. We do a barber, nails, hair, lashes. I love that.

That's everything. That's everything. But my nine nail text, it's eight girls and one boy, they're the best. Oh, my God. You would love it. And I see you're like, you like a good friend. I do a little thick, it's very, like, old school millennial, like, thick French. It's very, very, very, very.

trending now and now it's also trending if you like the dog bill like a little wider oh I know a duck bill he's at the widest duck bills in the world I love a duck but now it's coming back yeah I loved it people told me it was so ugly and I was like no this is like no no but I'm just saying it's coming back and I love people like more because if you want you know if you want what do you have this is it builder what is it uh-crylic gel X gel X but they cure it in the in the lab so I love when they ask for more Like if you ship a nail or you want like chrome or you want like Aurora or whatever like cat eye and if you want a dog bill, we need to put a tip and everything like it's like custom made nail. I love it because it just keep adding to that ticket. Yeah, just as much as possible.

Yeah. Oh, they always say that to me. They're like it's $5. I'm like every finger please, every finger. Because that's like one thing I think people always splurge on like no matter what is like you want a good nail. You know what I mean? Because you cannot take them off. Yeah.

So you need to have a good job. Yeah. And they last. Unlike makeup and stuff, it washes off. like nails will last for a couple weeks a month or whatever. But okay. Who does your nails? Oh, I mean, I just go to like them all.

Really? Yeah, yeah. No, come to Puerto Rico. Oh, I would love. I'll come just to get my nails, lashes, everything like that. I would love. No, I really enjoyed it. I went with the worst person, not the worst person, but not a great person.

And I was like, I wish I could go back and, like, enjoy it. Like, it's such a great way. You wouldn't enjoy it with us. It's a party. It's a party. You know how like most salons are like old white and very, like, aesthetic. No, we are a party. We have neons on the walls.

Very. We have music loud all the time. There's a bar next door and a restaurant that serves us. Wait, you mean to get food while you're getting your nails done? Yeah, anything you want. That's the dream.

Oh my gosh. We could even get your car wash if you want because someone and watch your car. Okay, I'm coming. You're selling it. But we're like one block from the beach so it's like really, really fun. The beaches were really beautiful there. We were in January so it was kind of like rainy.

Or maybe it's always rainy. I don't know, but like it was beautiful the beaches. Yeah. But it's very, but it's very. But it's okay because it comes and go. Yeah. It doesn't rain the whole day. I like, I love rain.

I'm like someone who avoids sun. Usually I'm like not for anything other than like he being hot. And so like I love a little rain. You know what I mean? Well, we have a good AC. Don't worry. Jam! You're iconic in every single way.

I'm so happy. I was so gagged when you like responded to my DM because I feel like I DM people. And I hear about that like a year later. They're like, okay, I'll come do the podcast. I was like, well, I'd love to like know now in the moment because I'm so into the show as everybody is. And I do feel like you're going to be. be back, definitely on Traders. I feel like Dance with the Stars for sure.

That's like a given. From your mouth to God's ears. We're a manifester. Well, you're a real manifest. You said you're going to win Survivor and did. And on Traders, it happens the same thing. I was like, I want to get at least halfway. I want to wear my banquet outfit.

And I want to, if I get to be eliminated on the game, I don't want it to be in the confessional room. Oh. And the three things happen on the same episode. That's pretty powerful. You really should have been like, I'm winning trading. Yeah, you know that in there. Because I think making it halfway.

And they're like, oh, he made it halfway. It's done. The manifestation's done. So next time. Next time. Yes. And manifesting being an all-stars. And you be there.

I would love. So you have to do this season. Yes. So we can't do all-stars. I've been trying. I've been trying since like season one. I'm like, how can I get on this show? I wish.

I put the rumors out myself. I'm like, I don't. You do that. We have to stardom. I'm the publicist. We kind of just make up and then see what happens. Yes. I'm very much like I tell TNZ at the airport.

I'm like, I'm doing a big show this fall. And I was like, sure I'm dancing with the stars. It was like, no, I wasn't. I thought, I saw that when you interview Gabby, you said you also wanted to do dance with the stars. But he's the same people. I know. And actually, I won't say the casting name,

but the woman that does the head casting show is like, oh, your name keeps popping up. I'm like, well. Get it in there. Hello. Hello. Lower your fee, girl. Lower your feet.

I have no fee. My fee is free. I'll pay me there. I will pay to be there. There you just. I got you a deal. My agency, T.A. are like, no. No, but I would.

I would love. It's such a fun experience. And it just looks like the best time ever. And you become a superstar. And people get to know and love you. You are a superstar. You bring your super power to the show. That's why the show, I think, it keeps growing and growing and growing.

Because these people just want to go have fun. Like, would you have imagined, like, Liz Arina, Donna Kelsey, Monet, me there. Right. What? You look at the list. You're like, this is odd. Yeah. But it was fun.

But like you said, it could have been more entertaining, more entertaining. people besides yourself we had a lot of fun but they have a story to tell yeah and that is the traitors of it all any final questions Oscar I love you this is great I do have one that's kind of tea though and to go back really quick though when I know Jeff at one point said like anyone any survivor contestant who did traders wouldn't come back on survivor but he kind of walked it back right like is that kind of what you heard like now he wouldn't well Jeff cannot do anything wrong in the world he's amazing Jeff, who's Jeff?

Jeff Proves, the host of the show. He's the EP, he does. He's like the main, the head of the show. We love Jeff. We love Jeff. But here's the thing. I was there. He did say that in an interview.

That was before I got contacted to the traders. And then I went to an event in New York, which was the premiere of season 48. And he said that he would let people do Survivor back again. But maybe he was just talking about Stephanie and Ceres since they are on season 15. and Serri was in the crowd that day. But I just think it makes the show better if you let people go in and out to do other shows because you cross-pollinate the viewers,

like all the traitors' viewers that love Ceri since they're going to go and watch Survivor 50. That's so true. And all the gays who saw Parvety are going to go, you know, if Parvety does something else. So like all the gays who love you are going to go follow, you know, all the Bravo gays will come to CBS. And I never watch Survivor ever,

but I love you. You need to see Survivor 44. But I would watch the clubs, but I would watch it if you got back on it. You know what I mean? So it is getting like a new audience. I feel like you do have this whole new audience that loves you just for you being on the traitors. And then when I found out your lore and that you were like a winner, I was like a winner is texting me. Every time you say I was a winner, I love it!

I was kind of like, wait, but that's it. That is insane. To win Survivor is insane to survive. More than 800 people have played Survivor and there's only being 47 winners. Wow. You guys should do one of those group photos, like class pictures, like if you for Vanity Fair where you're all like on stairs and you're like here's all the winners of it. Are they all still alive? Yeah, they're all still alive.

Okay. No, I mean, no disrespect. I think only like 12 survivor players have died. Yeah. They're older in the beginning. Yeah, a lot of people. Oh, it was two of the ones on the first season, three on the first season and then. There was one from my hometown.

His name was George. Maybe he's a big brother. Was there Chicken George? I don't know. Chicken George is from Big Brother. Okay. He was from eight town. That's all I know.

He played All-Stars Big Brother too, I think. Okay. Well. Who was season one? Chicken George? I think one of those really early ones. I love that you know Big Brother too, so you're watching all. I love.

I used to watch all of it. But then you go on it and you don't want to wash it. Really? Wait, why? Because it's traumatizing. Because you start thinking, I was like, well, that probably didn't happen like that. Well, they probably didn't show the other part of it. And then you start comparing yourself.

Because when I watch these shows or when I watch anything, I like to disconnect. If not, I'll go watch the news. Right, right. Right. You want the entertainment of it all. So watching these shows is just giving me trouble. And you're like, family women. They know too much.

And what do you do in your like spare time over whenever? Well, my husband has a very busy schedule for me. So I'm normally, I'm doing a lot of stuff in the house. I like to travel a lot. I like taking care of my plants. I have a little garden. I'm very part of my basil plant. Oh, okay.

Basically, it's easy to maintain. Yeah. So I like putting a lot of love into it because it gives me like really like a lot back. He loves a basil and a mint. I love when it multiplies a multiple. and the little kids or whatever. Do you put on your pizza? Like, what do you do with the basil?

You cook with it? I give it away because I have so much. I put it with people in bags and I give it like gifts. You should sell it, Jam Jam's Basel. No, that's kind of everything. It's for love to people. Okay, more of that. And then I love hanging out.

I live in All San Juan and I live very close to like the main action of like the nightlife. Okay. And I like having fun, dancing, drinking, talking to people. Oh, there's nothing better. Oh, I just like love, I think you have such a good energy. I feel like so many people need to be more like you, just pure, enjoying life. Because at the end of the day, right, like life is short. And it's like what is the point of life?

It's to live it. And I feel like you're living it to the fullest. We have to. And I think you're also a very good example of everything you do and the way you look always, right? Like, it's so amazing to be here with you, of you, of course. It's like, I want to be like you. Oh, I want to be like you. Even though I'm older, but I want to be like you when you grow up.

I don't think you are. You think you'd be surprised. I'm 39. Okay, I'm 38-ishish. I'm going to be 40 this summer. Are you so excited, though? What should I do? Oh, go big.

Well, you already go big. I don't know how much bigger can you go. Like, you're literally doing everything, traveling the world, all this stuff like that. You got to go big. I'm so excited for my 40s. My 30s, how was your 30s? My 30s was the best decade ever.

I love my 20s. But obviously I did Survivor and everything at 35. Oh. But 26 was my best year in life. Do you have an age when you go like, I feel like I'm always this. because mine is like 26 because that was your best year ever I feel like I just found myself I felt cute I felt pretty I was like having everything I needed would you go

back to 26 or at 35 when you did if I went back to 26 with everything I know now girl yeah I would be like president of the United States anybody can be president obviously too you should run honestly it'd be kind of everything yeah I just I loved my 30 I hated my 20s hated my but I wish I could be young In my head, I'm 18. I'm like, I'm so young. Like, I feel like Gen Z. But my best year was probably last year, 37.

I loved being 37. It was great. I love it. I feel like once you grasp of how amazing you felt at a certain point in your life, and you carry that energy even where you're not feeling okay, I feel like that helps a lot. We like to deal with shit. Yeah.

Just to like. I just, yeah. I just want to celebrate. And I'm okay with being, you know, 39, almost 40, even though I die my beer. You look amazing. I would never have, yes. I would have never got. And I was like, wow, it's amazing.

Like a little white hair. Oh, a little, little gray. Yeah, you know, but you don't want to, I don't want to look like Santa Claus, you know, so I dye my beard. Oh, really? It looks really good. It looks amazing. I love everything. The hair and the vibes.

You're always just looking at a look at your on vacation. I like that so much. I love that. It's a good vibe. Any advice to want to be survivor or traitor players, game players, people have run reality TV. How do they be a star? How do they win her?

Be yourself. I feel like when you are not faking who you are, you're not trying to be anybody else. and you're not trying to be anybody else, that's when you are the most successful. Yeah. And people in a game, this is normally for everything in life, but in a game,

when you are trying to do something else that is not 100% who you are, it comes across as fake, and then it just brings people not to trust you. So... That's great advice. Just be yourself, be out there, go for it,

and if people are going into casting and stuff, just scream your name out, before you go into an interview, dance around, dance to your favorite song, get a shot. And just, you know, be a little extra if you drink. Oh, I think about like a shot in the hour or something. Like a shot, like a tequila shot. Because a lot of people get into their hair, I was like, oh, my God, this is what they want. No, they don't want anything.

They just want whoever who you are. That's good advice for life, too, even if they're not going casting. Just be yourself. It's a lot easier. Right? Like dating and everything. Yeah, be yourself. Yeah.

Yeah, we probably love around the same age, too. Like, you know, what did you say? He's slutty. What? Slotty. Maybe in your 20s. What? In your 30s.

Be slutty, whatever. I mean, depending on how long you've been single. Okay. Yeah. Some people want to do that forever until their 50s. If it works, it works. How did you give it up? Were you ever that?

Did you ever have a phase of that? No, I never. My husband was my first boyfriend. Not my first, you know, but my first boyfriend. Yeah. My friend and too, I always say that about my husband too. I'm like, I never lived with a guy, a boyfriend or anything like that. So he was kind of my first boyfriend, too.

It's cool because we grew up to know each other and mature. And it's when you got in getting a relationship, whatever is the reason you get into a relationship first. Is it like attraction or physicalness or whatever you're looking into it? If you develop love and admiration for the other person, it grows into another thing. Yeah. Can't stand time. Yeah. With all the ups and downs and slowness and highness.

And how's your husband dealing with your fame? He was a little annoyed at first. I'm not going to lie. Was he? But the good thing is in Puerto Rico, people don't watch. So people didn't even know. Oh, it's not on. It is on, but people don't watch it.

I guess it's not part of the big networks in Puerto Rico because we have like Telemundo and other stuff in Puerto Rico. But now he's getting, he likes it because a lot of my clothes is his. So he gets also a lot of like followers and stuff. And like he's enjoying more of the access of what we're getting for his business. You're the canvas. You know what I mean? And you look so good.

The first thing I saw you was like, oh, this is you, the way you dress is beautiful. You have the pink socks and the shoes and the lilac. No, we're kicking each other. I get all my socks from Temu in every single color. What's that? Oh, live. That's a good. They're like disposable.

Oh, what? It's like. Oh, really? Are they biodegradable? No. Oh, but if I, if I get dirty or they're like, if they, they're not the color they're supposed to be, I don't feel as bad as, you know. Right, right. Disposing them.

Yeah. That's how you are. Is that how you win Survivor? You get a million dollars? You get a million dollars on Survivor. Yeah. Do you think? No.

Taxes. I mean, there's other stuff. Okay, okay. But... They should give you a million walk away. I would imagine. But so you won a million dollars. They've been giving a million dollars since 2000.

By inflation, it should be a million 75 if they have followed inflation. Oh, it should be like 10 million, I feel. It should be like, yeah. Yeah, 10 million. And this do. I mean, 10 is good, but 2 million would have been. Yeah. Right, right.

Jeff, get 2 million for Survivor 50. We know you can get the 10 million. Yeah. Or for whatever season you're on because they're- Yeah, we'll save it for you. Yeah. Maybe they'll do like another. All winners.

Comeback. Oh my God, that would have been so easy. Yeah, that's what you should do. Yeah. They have to do another one at some point. But we need 20 winners. I don't know if we could get 20 winners. I'm sure they'll reuse some of those original.

Boston Raw. They can't get rid of Boxer Raw. Reuse recycle and what is? And what is the other word? Reuse. Reduce, reuse, recuse. If you're already at season 50, I mean, and it's season 40 that they did it. So, like, if you're at season 50, you got to have more seasons, that's five more years. Maybe for 60?

Yeah. Well, how old I'm going to be at season 60. Yeah, you'll be, you'll get it. I think you'll be fierce. Bring me back. I told him, if you need me to carry water bottles, I'll be there. No, but I don't want to carry water bottles. Oh, yeah.

Like a helping hand. Do they have water bottles on the island? We get water bottles, but we restock them. Like, we refill them from the water well. And the water will has, like, bugs in it or, like, deadly search. That's so crazy that the show exists. And then that people want to go on it and dream years to be on it. Like, what?

It's amazing. So insane, but. It's a freaking fantasy to go play Survivor and Traders. And you think that he's, like, totally immersed. Not necessarily Big Brother. Her doing Big Brother is horrible. Yeah, that was like. biological warfare in there.

So because Ceri, that won traitors and has done Survivor a lot, and she did Big Brother two years ago. And what did you say? And she said is the worst out of everything she's done. She got to like episode, like the last episode. She goes like on fifth place. So she did like 98 days. She said it was the most horrible thing. And she has done Survivor five times.

She did Australian Survivor. She did traitors, snake in the grass. She's done at all. And she made it. She needs to do amazing race and then she got like the trifectal. Oh my gosh, next for her. I'm sure that will happen for sure. That's great.

90 days crazy. I self-evicted after 10 days. Like out, bye. But maybe that's all you need to do. No, I think you could have done more, but yeah. Who won that season? Um, oh, she's from Girls Out Loud. Her name, she, she, R&P.

Yeah, she, yeah. She rest, she died. Oh, I didn't know. Because what was Jojo's one last season? Oh, she was there? She was there. They brought it back because it went away. Oh, yeah.

And then they went away for like six years and Jojo came back. I don't see one. I mean, she left the house with a boyfriend. What do you think? Hot topics. We have her. What is it? He's hot.

Okay. You see? You're approved. No? No. Not my vibe, but. No. Jam Jam improved.

I mean, if you're in a house. If it's Mickey Roark for him, then yeah. I guess. I don't think he's ugly. Maybe I'm getting confused, but. Like, that's like traitors. Everyone loves who's that. Rob R.

Have you seen him in person or anything? No, maybe I need to see him in person. Girl, you melt. Really? I don't know if that's what you're into. Are you into, bro? No. What do you like?

Me? Actually, Jimmy, our editor, you're his like number one celebrity crush. Yes. He posts, like, on his story, he'll just post you all the time. Oh. I thought, he's really down sweet. Yeah. Yeah, you're his celebrity.

No offense to your husband. He could have come. Yeah. Damn. Jimmy. How you doing, Jimmy? This is Jam. Jam.

He's a number 44 winner of the recently murder. Faithful, Melissa. We miss you. M. On Traders, I, if I, I think you were the hottest. I did love how I said, who is your celebrity crush V. And he was like, not necessarily, but my, Jeremy. Yes.

You are, no, you are one of the most handsome men this season. I think I do love Alan's why I watch. I think he's like one of the hottest people in the castle. He's so cute. Alan is beautiful. I've always said that. Before Traders. I've been coming for Al and coming for like so long.

Are you coming for coming? That's not going to get me on Traders. I don't get this creep away from him. I was like, why? Hi, Trisha. Why do you want to be a Traytor? Oh. And then you say, because I'm coming for coming for coming or something like that.

That's crazy. He sits you in a little couch with Lala and he asks you why you want to be a traitor. I think that's the moment That whoever answers I'm sure it happens Like somewhere else also But that's the moment If you give like a good enough

Oh that to sell I'd be like I want some alone time With you in that turret Yeah Probably want to get me a trailer Like show me the comment Come in coming They'll be like just like Jam jam jam

Carry her out Yeah I actually don't have her on the show Like so weird No he's amazing Yeah I didn't think I wasn't that like a rob girl either But I don't know. All right.

Interesting. You're my favorite. You are the cutest one in my opinion. I don't even think there is another hot guy besides you. Right? Monet is gorgeous. Oh, you love Monet. Yes.

Love. I know, but Rob is just so handsome. You were melting. I guess he might win because everyone is feeling that way with him. Rob, do you saw the episode where Ron was saying like Rob is like a really good guy and they're playing chess? Yeah. So that's how he was with everyone. Right.

So they're just not showing it, but it's really cool. He played your social game on. Survivor. He's like, I'm just going to be nice to everyone. He's a survivor fan. He wanted to do Survivor before doing anything else. That makes sense for him because he's like, you know, always in the river catching snakes and stuff. Right, right. Yes. So he wanted to do Survivor. I think they reached out to him and he said no, but that's that was after Love Island. And now it would be impossible for him to do Survivor and the good because now he's too popular. Like if you go there, you have to go with other like celebrities. If not, you're just a target. Celebrity Survivor, that'd be good.

you're on that Would you do it? Yeah Yeah But if you can come on Like you and They should do like half players And then half celebrity teams

Or do teams or I don't know Be you me and Mike White up there Just Mike White is on 50 Yeah Yeah Yeah Let's see how good he does

I love that he's on there Like he's so like famous and rich And has like the biggest shout He's like I'm gonna go do Survivor again He did Amazing Race twice with his dad His dad is also gay Which is like really cool Oh love that

And he did Survivor He got third place I think or second place he's season, which is really impressive. Wow. And now he's on 50. I don't think, I don't know what happens. Yeah. But I'm sure they're not going to last a lot. Yeah. Like, I'm sure they're going to vote him out. He has to probably doesn't want to, either because he probably doesn't want to

like take that money away from somebody. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I don't want to take the money away from anyone. He probably makes like tens of millions of dollars off right. It's 100 million. I don't know. I'm just guessing. You won the title. That's true. I guess he could donate it or give it to the people. Well, the guy that won survivor before me donated the million. Wow. And imagine, because they film Survivor back to back, so they film 43 and then two weeks after they filmed mine.

So I knew I won. Imagine watching the season before me, which is season 43. I already know I won. And then this guy, Mike Gabler, wins and says, I'm donating my million dollars. And I'm like, not this motherfucker saying he donated the million right before I'm supposed to win my million. Hell no, dude, why you did it? And then when I want, everybody was like, so what are you going to do?

What are you going to do? You're like, I'm keeping it. I'm just saying. I was like, I have an expensive lifestyle. I'm like, I got kids that's going to the kids. That's why you play. It's for the future. It's for the future.

Yeah. There's other ways to raise money, but keep that money that you want on. All my friends from college are doctors. And when I won the million and I told them, I catch up. Like, here we go. That's why you look fabulous and everything.

I love you. I love you so much. Thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing all of you. And I can't see you on the reading. I can't see what you're wearing. I can't see on more stuff. You are an icon.

And honestly, like, I would stop watching traders after you left. But I'll keep watching for the plot. But you were it. You were the show. You were everything. I appreciate it. You are missing. Thank you.

Everyone please follow. Jam Jam! You jam jam! It's me. It's Lisa. It's Trisha. She kids me. Trisha.

And we'll see you guys in the next one and check out the Traders' Reunion airing soon. Hosted by Andy Cohen, we don't know, probably. It is, yes. You're excited to meet him? Yeah, I'm excited.