Just Trish - Feb 19, 2026

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

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People don't say anything because they think their voice won't be heard or like it'll just get shut down or won't. So like the fact that everyone has like this collective voice now, it probably feels so vindicating. But the fact that she still feels like that like 20 years later or however long, like says a lot, right? It's like they didn't talk about this for so long. Now everyone's coming out so they feel like safer to talk about it. Welcome to Just Trish, our favorite day of the week Thursday because it's the weekend. It's the weekend. When I went in Congress, that's one of the things I'm going to do is be like, we need a three day weekend.

I feel like three day weekend would make us all just feel like happier it would make us work harder like my week my work week ends on Thursday and technically ends on Wednesday mine's Monday through Wednesday okay I change it Monday through Wednesday is the work week Thursday through Sunday is the weekend let me tell you it has changed my life it has given me peace of mind Thursday I can have a nice like little family day Friday I can have a regroup day for myself then we still have the weekend and then Monday through Wednesday I am going from literally 6 a.m. to like 10 p.m. because I want that five day weekend

so that's why I run when I go for Congress because I really think that's where it's going to be. You guys are seeing this on a Thursday. So, you know, we'll see. Thursday, Wednesday. I don't know. When you were growing up, it was Fridays and Saturdays. You had off, but you went back towards a Sunday.

No, only Saturday. Oh. Yeah, it was like one day off. Oh, that's great. Not Friday? Friday night. No, Friday was like half a day. But, yeah, it was horrible.

Okay. Not that having Sunday. Not that one. We're getting right into it. Yay! Oscar's here. You were right on time, too. We're going to the Elvis premiere tonight.

I'm super excited. Baz Luhrman is directing a documentary of Unseen Elvis Presley footage. And we got invited. And we did just go to a premiere and we have been kind of busy in our social life. But I was just like, I need to go to this one for sure. And he just recently announced that he's going to be doing a stage adaptation of Elvis. Like he's not directing it, kind of like Mulan Rouge. He directed the movie.

But the stage production was directed by Alex Timbers. So he's doing a trilogy And there is a great song by Alice Presley called The American Trilogy And is wonderful So anyways, that's where we're at because right after this We're got to do a Patreon And I gotta come back and change from Bridgeton into Elvis

So it's a whole day Like I said, Monday through Wednesday is the work week So I can have that five day weekend And um Oh I was gonna show our little well I'll insert I'll have Jimmy insert We did get the postcards We had the physical ones for the no hate campaign

If you want to go to patreon.com slash just Trish The um No cards will be in the headshot tier this month. We do extended episodes and bonus videos there. May 9th, I'll be at Indio, California, Fantasy Springs Casino, and May 5th, Netflix is a joke. And I think that's pretty much the Ratham. 5 p.m. Western time, 8 p.m. Eastern Time. Ihaired Radio, where it's favorite Broadway debut. I have my time where every day, 5 p.m. it goes off and then I vote. Do those power votes. I'm so glad I'm not up for next year because both Dylan Mulvaney just made her

debut in six and what he loved it has been breaking record second week in a row of Chicago's highest week ever in the 30 years of Chicago's been on Broadway and she's extended her run so that's going to be stiff competitions for next favorite not to say this one is and I'm against Tom Felton and McDonnelly and Cheryl Porter and I just say Ashley Graham there's just so many great people so damn it's a hot it's a hot award at the broad place where it's hat it's where it's at it's so great we were we saw Weathering Heights yesterday. Best movie of the year.

Did you like it? I didn't know. I didn't have had to gauge. You loved it? It was the best movie I've seen in a long time. Me too. Oh, I didn't know you loved it. It was one of those movies where I'm like at Moses. I'm like, first I'm like, I'm like, did you fall asleep? Because Moses is up all hours in the night. So I was like, did he fall asleep? Then two, I was like, oh, is this awkward? Is this weird? Because it did get weird. That second half of the movie got weird. And I'm like, okay, I'm like, does you think this is too weird? No. I mean, if you're a Kate Bush fan, this is like, this is like, this is like, this is

like, like, she has so many. That's the thing. That's what I'm so shocked is like she literally has a song for each scene of this movie. Like she has all, like, I want to take this movie re-edited it to her songs. Oh, she's a whole album about Wuthering Heights? No, but the story, the story is so much of her like mindset and how she thinks. Oh, okay. Well, then know that.

Interesting. Including the crazy stuff. Really? The degradation? She's in it a little degrading. She likes to be on all four. is on a leash. She's a song that's called Get Out of My House.

And it's like if you took madness into a song, that's a song. Oh, I didn't know this about her. It's like insane. It's not a song. Another Day, which is two lovers that meet again later on in their life. And they talk about how they wish they had each other's baby and we're together. Oh. Like the whole, she has song like so many.

That's why I'm like it's so this movie and this story and her are connected so much. Wow. Oh, so you were feeling it through that, through the power of song. Power of soul and visual. Visually, it was incredible. I was sobbing. I was sobbing. I loved it.

I loved this movie. I was sobbing. I never felt so much emotion in my life. I was sobbing. Well, surely, like, singing all the songs. That's what we were debating.

I think she does, most like, I don't think she's singing. She does the whole soundtrack. Yeah. She released an album. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She released a whole, like,

Wuthering Heights album. That's what I thought. So she's singing all the songs. She sounds like Enia. She's like, I mean, it's incredible. I thought she was like producing it and doing, I didn't know she was singing every song.

Yeah, it's real every song. That's incredible. Yeah, because I was like, there's no ass. Like, I think I think so. I think that's like the whole gag of it. Because I didn't, wasn't taken out of it. Some people like to critique be like if they hated the movie. Like, this movie is awful.

And then you hear Charlie X, X, X. And I'm like, oh, okay, like, lightens the mood, whatever. And I was like, but to me I wasn't even hearing Charlie XXX. I was like, oh, she did all the music. Like, to me, it was like, she was so diverse. Yeah. And even like the score, like, even when she wasn't singing, I like the score as well. Yeah.

Oh, she did the score too? I don't know if she did the score. Oh. With the music of it all. Yeah, yeah. Because the score went hand in hand with like the production on her album too. You know what I mean? Like it was kind of interchangeable.

I liked all the music in general. I thought that was a really fun of art. So good. Did you like it? I forgot. I'm lukewarm. I'm lukewarm. I didn't live.

I didn't hate it. I didn't hate. Love looking at it. Love the performances. But you didn't live. I lived. I didn't get my life to it. No.

I thought it could have. been a hornier. I think I needed to because they really laid it up in like the press tour. I was like he did this to me and like he covered my eyes in the rain. Oh it was kind of hot. Yeah. And they really played up the affair bait and I was like, okay, then it must be really sexy. Yeah. They must be getting down. Like in the housemaid you see you see Sydney Sweeney and Brendan Sklinar like everything. And so that's kind of what I was expecting from Wuthering Eyes. I'm like, well, let's see it. Oh, we saw not a lot.

You're right. They were very clothed through everything. I agree. You're just drunken in that sense. Yes. And it didn't get sexy until like like the kind of like midway through and then it's like maybe just a montage of sexy scenes. And granted could you get that sexy in the 18, when was this?

1800s? I hope so. I don't know. I think so. It must have been a little harder to get sexy back then at the thing because for sure. It's harder to. The clothing.

Yes. It's a lot of clothing. It's when they're in that and the Wuthering Heights home that stays. And it's cold. It was cold. I don't know if they're showering on the reg. Nobody was, really. Yeah.

So I'm sure, you know, munching box was a little bit harder back then. He was doing that. He was doing that, yeah. He was like, let me just get up in there. Yeah. I agree. Yes. I just did a photo shoot right before this from Bridgeton,

where Mama Bridgeton, Viola Bridgeton was in lingerie. And the T we were having. And I was worried for the episode. And I was like, one, I wasn't pink, but two. I was like, maybe it's a little two seconds. Even though it's like, even Thorin is like shorts and like a corset, but you're still like, damn.

Oh, okay, get it. Yeah, we didn't even see much of that from... I agree. The sexy scene montage was great, not a lot. I liked... Spoilers are coming. Ooh. Spoilers are coming.

Spoiler warning. Get out now. Spoiler alert. Spoiler warning. My personal favorite storyline was the one between Jacob Allorty and the other girl. He was a bullet. I was like, as soon as that came, I was like, oh! Like, what?

From the moment he got into her bedroom, I don't know how to spoil it too much. When in the morning, he, like, climbed into her bedroom, like, soaking wet. You can't see hot Jacob Allorty coming into your room. And he's just like, I'm not going to love you. I don't even like you. I'm going to be thinking of another girl. Do you still want this? And she's just like, yes.

And I'm, like, giggling. I'm, like, laughing because I'm like, why is this so me and every girl? Like, every girl, a guy will be like, I'm an asshole. I'm the worst. Like, I suck. And you're just like, yes, daddy. Give it to me. Like, it was giving that.

Although it was Jacob Lordy. And honestly, like, I get it now. last episode we're like, I don't really get the Jacob Lordy. And I'm kind of like, I got it. I get it. He is, I mean, Margarabu was always my favorite. But I loved everyone. I loved Margarabi husband.

At the end, I was saying the guy, I don't know, the actor that played her husband, but Lord. Oh, is the name of the chocolate? Linden. Linden, chocolate. I was thinking, like, is it chocolate? He was fine and he was so nice. Like, he was so nice to her.

I was just like so, I was so pissed off that she was like, whatever. Well, he was the only sane person in this movie. Yeah, he was so sweet. Everyone else is insane. I love that girl, though. Completely, everyone. Do you know the relationship between the girl and the, in the, the Lord, like the one that was living in the house? Oh.

God, let me see. Because we were, like, trying to figure that out. Yeah, at first I thought they were, like, an idol. Like, I thought they were on a date when we first met her. Yes. And then I didn't understand. But I feel like they kind of were. Or something.

They said like a sister. And then they were like, oh, too bad he couldn't marry her. So I was like, well, what? And then she ended up liking Kathy. So I was just like, I don't know what's happening in this situation. But I would have been. I love that actor. Whoever that was,

whoever played that character, was amazing. She's in, I think Saltburn as well. So the composer, by the way, is Anthony Willis, and he also did the music for Salt Boyle.

Saltburn. Well, it's the same director, too, I'm on Fennell. Yeah, so they worked together. Well, she really just said everyone come on over. Where's Barry Keogan. He could have popped up in there.

Literally. Right? He would have fit in that little freaky world, you know? Probably too small of a role for him. Right, because there was that stable boy that was, Yeah, that's getting it on with that lady tomb.

Oh my, I loved it. Was R.C. not in it with the big red dress where they're walking together in the red room? I don't think it was in it. I missed it. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. So it looks like it was for the photo shoot. So weird. I mean, there was the moment when he was in their house looking like that.

Yes. But I don't know if she was ever in that dress I wore. I think that must have been for the photo shoot. But they've been taking that dress everywhere on like a world tour. And I was like, oh, she wasn't even in it. T. She is supposed to be the younger sister of Edgar Linton. Oh. Now T. I get why the girls were up.

I got where the girls were up in arms. Because I remember people were mad at that plot line, Isabella's plot line. Because in the book, she's like really abused by Heathcliff. And then this one, it's more of like a sexual thing. Yeah, she was kind of in on it. Yeah. I love it. I'm home baby. I'm right where I'm meant to be.

I'm like, oh. Shall I write this letter because you can't read. Yeah. Yeah. That's confusing. kind of loved it too. I feel like they both were like, oh, okay. So I got, yeah, yeah.

So she was more of like a victim of abuse in the book. So I got what the girls were in the hot. In general. In general. How we're being my favorite part? Sorry. As someone who did not read the book all the way through. Weathering Heights, not Wuthering Heights as we call it.

Yes. Yes. Damn. Because the movie really did make it hot. Yeah. Because if you are into that, like consensually, like obviously like she was. Like someone wanted to go save her. There was a little 50 shades of gray core for a little bit of those.

50 gray, 50 shades, nachos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really, I really enjoyed it, but I suppose, yes, if it's not consensual and she's like, oh, I didn't sign up for this, then it's, it was a little freaky. I was giggling. I was, like, giggling, like, not even at that scene,

but just, like, just so much of it. I was just like, this is crazy. Like, what are we watching? I was so here for it. I was, I felt embarrassed. I was a little flush sitting next to Moses. Even sitting next to the person next to me, it's kind of like, I don't,

this is a crazy movie to be watching. I just really liked it. Yes, it could be hornyier. Like, Britishian is going to get hornier for sure. But I loved it. It was beautiful, beautiful people, beautiful acting. I loved every single character. Not one character nor in me.

I even liked Ellie. I liked her. I liked her, like, period. Like, on that, you know what I mean? Like, I liked her through and through. I don't know the differences in the book. Her dad was a good actor. Yeah.

He could get it, too. He was pretty fine. He was like, everyone was looking so good in this movie. They just made everyone look good. Everyone was hot. I liked it all. I give it a 10 out of 10. But I get it.

Okay, book enthusiasts, I get why, yes, I get why things could be upsetting. But as someone who doesn't know the book, I liked this Wuthering Heights in quotes. But maybe there's like 10 other Wuthering Heights movies. So maybe any of those accurate to the book or no? God, I don't know. Like Ralphianist. Yeah, because it's so many posters of last movie. Yeah, from like 1950.

But this movie just seems to they took away most of the abuse that people endured. Yes. And they focused on romance of two people that are basically insane for each other. Yeah. And they really cleaned up every other story around it. Nobody else really. That's true. Yeah. So it's fine. Like that's the story they chose because the movie is they they take your emotional strings and they just play on it the whole movie. I mean I was sobbing. I was sobbing. So if you like that this is a movie for you. I've never cried hard in my life.

Now I want to go see young Frankenstein or is it young Frankenstein or Frankenstein? Frankenstein. Oh, what do I think I think of young Shelden? I don't know. No, there was something else. There's a Mel Brooks movie called Young Frankins. Oh, okay. I guess because he's young. I'm thinking like young, oh, it's just Frankenstein.

Just Frankenstein. It's a Giro. Yes, yeah. Yeah, you know. From Shape Water. Yes. I'm very, very excited to watch that. So we'll have to watch it because now I'm a Jake Porter fan.

I'm also excited to see Euphoria season three. And I think he's going to crush. I think he's going to be so good in it. And, yeah, that's good. I was good. Yeah, I was like, we almost didn't. We almost didn't, like, see it. And I was like, no, we should just go see it.

And I'm happy. I did, but so sorry to everyone who didn't like it. I get it. I also get that too. Everyone has a right to not like something. Yeah, opinions are valid. Opinions are valid. That's a problem when you read books.

Yeah, don't read. Don't read books. Makes everything easier. Ignorance is blessed. All right. How are you? Good to see you. Literally like you were right on time. It was just like, I was, you know, me as me.

How are you feeling? Everyone was very, they're like, Oscar sounds sick. Oh. You sound better. Yeah, I feel better. Are you? Yeah. Okay.

Everyone's getting our kids, too. We've been like, Zy-camming it up. I'm like, I cannot get sick right now. Our kids, too. I've been a little coffee. Yeah. I think it's just the weather has been a little nut. So everyone's kind of getting a little sick.

But I'm feeling better. You feel okay? Yeah, yeah. What's your hat from? I love this. Oh, remember my, I got the, I got a PR box from, it's called Merch Motel. They did that little clown hat, the, um. A clown.

God, why am I forgetting the show that your good Judy, Jordan Firstman is in? Oh, I love L.A. I love L.A. I forgot I love L.A. I got the I Love L.A. like hats. Is this from it? I'm confused. So this is... Oh, you got the clown hat.

Yes. And then the designer of said hat sent me more merch. Oh, what's a designer? Set up Merch Motel. Oh, merch motel. Yeah. And Cat's Eye, does that mean we're going to go get a cat's eye smoothie? I've been practicing the dance.

Are we going to do it? Yeah. I'm going to do that. Hands off, Gabriella. Gabrielle and the Arawan parking lot. I'm going to do it. I'll be performing live. The Gabriella dance.

Do we need a tripod? Where is our little tripod? You have one? I got one in my back pad. I can hold it too. Oh, you do. I do. I'm prepared.

I love this while, but yeah, you look like you're going to the concert. And so I was like, ooh, I, because we never know. Some days, Oscars got to go. Sometimes we don't know. Sometimes I got to go, you know, sometimes I didn't know. And I've been looking forward to this Airwant smoothie. That's why I was like, we need to start. When there was like a plan, like, I did the Bridgetton photo shoot at 8 a.m.

And then like 10 to noon. And then I was like, okay, we have one 30 to get this smoothie. and then I have to come back for the glad. Like when there's a plan, before you got here, I said my run for Congress was to have a five-day weekend for everybody because Monday through Wednesday, it just makes everyone work harder, I feel.

Because I have a five-day weekend, and Monday through Wednesday, I am going, going. Like, I will not stop. I will be up at 5 a.m. and I will go to bed at like 10.30 p.m. and I'm like, who, we can go to ballet. We can go to Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. We can do all this stuff, and it's wonderful.

Okay, work. Yeah. And there's usually paparazzi there, the parking lot of the other one. Make sure you do the dance to all angles, you know, they might be filming. I wish we'd get paparazzi there. That'd be so funny.

Just you and Katzai and Meetap Bridgeton. That'd be so funny. TMZ there. Yes, because you did find one of us like dresses like, I was like Merrill Monroe. I'm always in cosplay when I go there. Just not the place to go and cosplay because everyone's very cool and very chic. And then you just look in looking like a weirdo. I'm so excited though.

I wish like a giant pancake. They never had the giant pancake there. Oh, yeah. They used. Are they the show that used to have the giant strawberry? Do they still have it? Oh, was it like, was it a giant pancake? Or was it?

No, it was just expensive. Oh, in my head, I keep thinking, I think I've brought it up like five times. And you know, while watching the movie, though, I really, we both chuckled and looked at each other. We were like, the giant strawberry. They were like, Oscar. It was cutcy in her hand. Malbu had a huge strawberry yesterday. Did I show you that picture?

Oh my gosh. She had this giant strawberry. Did you buy them? I'm assuming you bought them. Yeah, because I got, I guess her like, it's a heart shaped box with strawberries from. Oh, my God, I show you. It was so big. They were huge in there.

And most of the really big ones, I could. cut up to make smoothies for them, but there was one that I left. It's already heavy and but look how big that is. That is giving the Wuthering Heights strawberry. And I know she has like a little ham, but that was a big strawberry. Yeah, there was. She wasn't feeling well. So she was like, why are you taking video?

She tried to smile, this one of her trying to smile. She is not feeling well. She was so cute. She was like, okay. It was just so cute this little strawberry. I did like it. Once I saw the giant strawberry, I was like, I do like this. Why were they in separate rooms?

Do we know? Um, Edgar. Edgar and Kathy, Catherine. Um, I actually don't. Did he just like wanted his personal space or whatever? They seem to have like he's and hers. Yeah. Because his room was green.

Masculine and his design and her room was her. Her skin. So it seems like back then they used to have like he's and her. That's so funny. You listen to Kiki Palmer wanting to live separate from their partner. I kind of don't hate it when I'd seen her room. I was kind of like, I wish I had an all pink room again. Because we have a very neutral room, which I love.

But I feel like if we did, what would your room be? You'd be Navy Blue Sheets. He loved a Navy blue sheets and a salt rock lamp. My room is what our room is now. Take a picture of watching. Do you have a picture of your old bedroom when I met you? And you had a shower that was like a porta potty.

Because it was like a building, like a commercial building that he was like renovating. It's not like a portable. Oh. Well, it's cute. You just a shower. You always a shower. No, but it was like a portable one, no? It was cute.

Anyways. No, it just the door was like sliding. It was like a straw. It's like a quarter. It was like a quarter of a circle and it was like slide. Oh. It was cool. I'm saying this out of love.

I really did think it was cute. No, but the words you use. It sounds like Port-a-Puddy. It's like you, like it sounds like Burning Man's outdoor shower. No, it was cute. I'm saying this out of love because you had the Navy blue sheets because we had Navy blue sheets up on our bed and I was like this giving like single man.

And then Devin had said he had Navy blue sheets. Then I was like, I was that navy blue sheets. I'm like, I guess if you bought them. Huh? You bought them. Well, because it was at four seasons. And I thought, ooh, it's booge. It's the Navy Blue.

And I thought like, Bridgetton. And then I got it. I was like, this is giving a single man. Because I heard, then I was, did we go over this? Your sheets? Yeah, mine are white.

Oh, love that. Perfect. Nothing to hide. People were saying navy blue because it's like, guys just don't wash her sheets as much so they can be like a little dirtier and they're not necessarily black

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That was cute. Anyways, it's giving Bridgeton. You always made tea. You were always like, you want some tea, you want some tea. You want some tea. It was giving Bridgeton in Englewood. I liked it. That was a vibe. It was cute. And you had a juice shop next door. You had a church and a juice shop. Yeah. It was great. One more, yeah. You can get orange smoothie and then like I remember I woke up on a Sunday that was the first night there. And I was like, la-da-da-da-da-da. It's the wall, literally the wall. Like Sunday morning you wake up to. It's like the angels. I was like, ah, it was crazy. They were worshiping. They just didn't know on the other side of the room. Okay, okay.

So it was going down. No, nothing was happening. It was just like, you know, you never think about it. But the way you framed it was so crazy. He watched too much of Wuthering Heights. All of a sudden, he's bronte. He's just like, and on the other side was thinning. It was good. I loved it. It was a vibe.

I thought it was very cute. The salt rock lamp too was very cute. I was giving guy. I'm a guy. And you had a bicycle from Burning Man, actually. You're talking about Burning Man not being a stall, but you had that. Well, it's like, it's basically like, you know, a lot of artists. That's how they live.

They have like a loft in their studio. So that's kind of what that situation was kind of a temporary living. in this art studio. I loved it. That was very cool, very unique and neat. But yeah, it makes time. I'm gonna try the Gabriella shake. It has like 5,000 ingredients in it.

So many ingredients. And you take them half an hour to make it. Oh my, they do. Yeah, that part. That's why I'm like, I literally have like the key, the purse, everything, they make shoes on, ready to go. I'm like, I'm gonna run after. Order it and then you have time to vlog for 20 minutes.

Well, because like I want the gower long video. You know, I want to get the, quality to our patrons. But yeah, getting there's like 15 minutes, getting back 15 minutes waiting in line. But, you know, it's the experience. The dance might take a 10 minutes. So we're going to all of that.

I'm very excited. Oh, I'm so happy that we have the time today. It's going to be really sad about it. How are you? I already asked, yes, you're good. Oh, I just asked about your outfit. I didn't even ask how you. You're good.

Do you want to promote anything? I promote so much. I'm like you should promote something. See, Oscar Gracie blog. What happened to that blog? You came in a blog for a minute yesterday. and then that was it. I was like, oh, I saw more to film.

It's a continuation. I'm doing that too. You know what I'm going to do monthly vlogs from a new channel? Okay, month is too long. Oh, you think? Like a February recap would be cute, no? Like Valentine's.

I think like two weeks max. All right, I gotta get that. Okay, because I really love, I'm trying to go, I already talk to Jimmy, shout out Jimmy. I really want to like Miss Remy Ashton style vlogs where like the thumbnail and that. Like, I'm going to just kind of like, not copy, but copy.

Get inspired by, you know what I mean? He told me he's been studying up on Ms. Remy Ashton, which I love. I love that he's binging. And now he gets it. He gets the obsession. Does he? I gave him another thing. There's another style video.

Did he tell you about that one? No. What was the other one? Oh, there's another style video that we're exploring. You'll see what it comes. David Dobrik, you know, the fast edits and every two seconds. That's so funny you said that because he was watching Mr. Remy action.

He said, oh, I love that. Because the David Dobrick style of editing was never for me. And I was like, same. Yeah, there's one other one I'm trying to figure out. And it was a very niche style. So I gave it to him. And he's like, all right, let me. Because at first he's like, yes, I can definitely do this.

I can definitely do this. And then he's like, let me look at that one. And so anyways, I'm sorry they haven't told me. Yeah, we're, I'm hoping to revive that blonde sundal form. You inspired me too. I love vlogging. I love watching vlogs. And they just sent you something.

I know. I was like, you can open it tomorrow when you're glam and I'm like, every minute is attested for tomorrow. There is not one minute that I will be able to open it. But I do want to. But I do want to. You know what it is. Most open it won't tell me. You know.

I can bring it for a second. Oh. YouTube sent me a thing. I've never got anything from YouTube. I think it's just a plaque probably, huh? For what, though? Not this channel. Wow.

Oh. There's the cards right there. Yum. Here they are. Oh, double-sided, honey. Yes. We've got no hate. Double-sided, yes.

You get this one or this one, whichever one you want. Well, actually, you get both because they're on the same side. Okay. Oh, okay. I love that. Just the Bridgetton Hair. This has a... Limited audition.

I know. Okay. Do you know what it is? You know what it is. Not exactly. What is it? Or is it here we're showing it? Oh, wow.

What? Oh. Oh my God, this is so funny. Like maybe lift this. But this is so cool. It says Blonde on the Form J here. Oh, it's my main channel. I'm acknowledging my main channel for 20 years.

Wait, exactly. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, since 2009. The Shadow Van Channel. This is red enough. This red enough. What? Okay, I want to show this.

Okay. Wow. What? What? What do you? What is? Running. They saw my video.

They saw my TikToks. They acknowledged me. Oh my gosh. Here's to making history in 20, 26. Oh my gosh. 20 years running. Wait, this is crazy. Is it just for people who've been

vlogging 20 years? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh my gosh. It's like a racer jacket. Oh, yeah, chill. That is crazy. Because as YouTube established 2005, and then it has mine 2007.

Wait, I'm going to cry. That's so nice, because I love to brag that I'm a 20-year vlogger. Yes, the blonde sundel for it. That's so weird. That is crazy. Nobody in the world has. Aw.

Nobody does. Wait, that's cool. I'm going to wear this all the time. It's going to be my personality. Oh, my God. I've never been acknowledged by YouTube. This, I'm not going to cry. This is so nice.

I've really been, like, going hard on the 20 years. I even changed it in my Instagram bio. I was like, 20 years YouTuber. O-G-U-Tuber, O-G-Uruder, 12-plus years. I was like, actually. No. Oh. You have the validation.

Nobody can say no. Oh, my God. Wait, why? I'm, like, crying. That's actually amazing. Oh, I'm glad you didn't tell me. This is cool. Wow.

There's, like, a hanger with my name on it. Well, that's for the jacket. Yeah. I'm reviving this. A license plate. Oh. Just all those stats, all the analytics. 2.2 billion views.

I know Mr. Beasts and all that stuff in Ryan's channel, but name another current influencer. That's not Mr. Beast or Ryan's toys or whatever. Or Cocoa. I'm like so excited. Oh my God. And I was planning to revive this channel. Don't worry, YouTube.

I'm keeping it strong. Blan Sandal 4MJ. Just don't shadow me on me. The hangar is his Blan Sandal 4MJ? That is wild. Oh my God. I'm kind of gags. I mean, somebody's sat down.

I'm so... Oh, my gosh. Looks like something I'd make myself for me. That's so cool. Well, thank you, YouTube. Oh, my gosh. Now, you just need a sports car. Okay.

Okay, T. McCrae. 20 more years. That's the year, YouTube. Right, maybe... Well, for you to wear it then, to drive the sports car. Oh, is this a surprise? Do you have one outside? He's like, here is.

We've been looking at one. Wow. I love it. I'm obsessed. It wouldn't... Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's...

Thank you. Wait, why I'm really? I was like to cry over this, this little... Thank you. Wow. Did you see this yesterday? You saw this? I only saw the 20 year.

I was like, okay, something to celebrate you 20 years on YouTube. Oh, my gosh. This is so nice. Wow. I'm going to cry. That's so cool. I mean, wow. I love to be acknowledged by a platform you give everything to.

Truly, I've given my panic attacks, my anxieties, my depression. Overdoses. Overdoses. marriage, births. I've given literally my, it's the Truman Show. Okay, it is given everything on there. And this podcast, wow! I'm going to cry.

That's so cool. Thank you. Wow. I feel like I won an award. That's cool. That's so random. I love it. Who else got one?

We should clock it. That's what I'm saying. I'm sure you'll see people post, but there's only a few that are 20 years on YouTube. Oh, that's so cool. All right. You know, the year of the horse is starting off. Strong. Full speed ahead. Yesterday, my TikToks, my TikToks were getting like 70,000 views.

All of a sudden, every single one. I'm eating cheesecake factory, which I've been doing for months now. And it's like, oh, here's 1.7 million. Then I did one. What was one? Like I was eating Panana Express. Oh, here's another 2 million. It's like crazy. I don't know what's happening.

But thank you. I love you. And I love YouTube. That was great. Amazing. Cool. All right. Full force ahead. I got an editor now.

So I'm going to watch. One of these vlogs is our life. changing to people now that I have someone editing because I think that was the problem. I think people just love something a little edited, a little put together. I don't know for you, it goes either way because some of the most like lived on moments for you are the unedited. I saw TikTok and where was you trying to unplug a toilet for five minutes. I have it saved. Oh, you too.

You're saying. Yes. Because you know I, that's how I learn about things that happen in our house sometimes. Was it here? Was it in this house? That's why I was so shocked. I was like, oh, it's probably an old picture video. And I was like, wait a minute.

I recognize this. What blog was that on? I didn't show it. I could have showed the toilet. I'm going to attempt to see if I can plunge his toilet. Plunging toilets, so literally don't watch. Oh, trigger warning. I say.

This is day, like, five. I think it's in the green rooms. Oh, yeah, that green room toilet. It's not going out of it. Oh, no more talking about this. He hasn't had Moses right. Oh, every day. I didn't know you. That's even more. Oh, wow.

It's in this house. Oh, my God. You put your old back into it. So thank you, YouTube, for acknowledging. Lifetime Achievement Award. I was like, I never gave up. I posted every day. What were you posting? You know?

I would love people would want to see Jenna Marble just plunded a toilet. You know, if she came back, if she was just plunded a toilet for us, you know? I was giving. That was crazy. It is true. I think the Truman Show is the best comparison because there's nobody in the world that is shared the way you shared your life. That's why you're so unique. Yeah.

Than anyone else in part of history. Wow. And also nobody can recreate that. You know, you can start now like, okay, start posting and 20 years from later we'll come back to you. Yeah. Like there's nobody that will ever be like you. Invented the internet. That was crazy.

Love the plunging. I think that probably was a time where we had not much going on. I'm assuming that's before the podcast. Well, I can tell because there's those, like, diapers used after the birth. Oh. So it looks like after Malibu. Oh, okay. Doing quality content.

Still buying my piece, era. Just like I'm just going to do this. Buy my business. Find my business. And blinds the toilet, honey. It's all I got going on. Just keep out of it. It's giving ASMR.

It's been cozy. Thank you. I owe a lot of this. I'm accepting my award. I owe a lot of it to you. for ask her for really reacting to all my videos on your streams.

It's always like... I need to go back to me. It's been a minute. I love it. It pops up all the time like you reacting to some like video. I'm like, what is this? It's so funny.

It is a key, honey. It revives me. The shirts you wear, the thumbnails. It really... Oh yeah. I need to come up with my merch line celebrate the 20 years. Yes.

I'm upset. I randomly will see people post like photo, like old photos that you must have tweeted or like posted on Instagram or something. And it's like so random. It's like you, it was like your like platinum blonde, big sunglasses, big lips, little shorts, white tank top, just sitting on the stairs. And like someone used it as a reaction image. Like, and it made no sense.

It's like my friend wouldn't come with me to the gym. And it was that photo made no sense. But I'm like, this also speaks to me. Yes. So I also just kind of want to go through your camera roll and like look for random as photos and be like, this needs to go on a shirt. Oh, like for Petron. This needs to be a shirt. This needs to be the pillow.

This needs to be the blanket. Like, I need to curate the whole mask line. Yeah. Pick out those, pick up some obscure photos, find them. Make them a meme. That'd be fun. I know. Well, I do love that because you never know.

You know, in the making of all this cultural moments, you don't realize it at the time. You don't know what's going to be art one day. And that's the beauty of art. That's a beauty of an artist. Maybe your work is appreciated later in life. And luckily, I'm alive to have. To experience it, to experience the Renaissance, which is great.

So thank you. I say that humbly. It's very nice. And it's so funny. It is so funny. We love to be here. Oh, I would love to be in Wuthering Heights, too. Like, you know, I know I'm a great vlogger, but I would love to be in that movie.

I would, you know, if they were giving ASMR, they had the little, I just, I loved it. I wish I could have been Isabella. I really wish that was my role. I mean, all the comments on the video of you singing as Kate Bush were saying, you should have been casted. As Kathy. Maybe the sequel. I do a little pair. We'll get that giant strawberry.

Maybe they'll have it. The $150 strawberry at Air One, even though we're trying to underconsummed. In this economy, guys, it's our patrons. Right, right. We'll take the patron buns and put on the strawberry. You made us do it.

What? Oh. Well, that's... Okay. Tyra, yes. You guys wanted it. You asked for it. Yeah.

Yeah. It's your fault. It's your fault. I was... I literally had to text the group. I finished it. I finished the docus series yesterday. And I was like, this is crazy.

and I needed to make sure Team Joe's Trish was locked in. I texted everybody. I was like, you all need to do your homework and be locked in. We were already watching. As we were watching,

as I'm a picture of the screen. On the screen. We only made it past through the second one. And it was, like, riveting. It was good. But our kids were like, they were sick. They're getting tired.

I'm like, oh, I got to go to bed. But like, it was good. I haven't sat for the third yet. Most of the big stuff is in the first episode, so that's okay. Yeah. That's why I didn't, like, we kept doing like,

when you go to bed, we go to bed and I was like wait no but this moment because I remember those moments and so when it would come up it was just like oh no no we got to watch this one oh no we have to watch this one because like all of them were like so important yeah um yeah it was so weird because like on mond on the first episode this week I'd only seen clips of the interviews that they did uh and I already knew that I was like oh this is not gonna look good for Tyra and then seeing it like in context of like um the show of america's next top model with the interviews too and sing the full thing. I'm like, ooh, this is actually crazy. And also it was such a mind trip because, like, I've never, like, gone back to watch America's Exempt Model, but I've seen every single season of the show. Like, I loved it.

All the way up to when Rita Oura took over, I was still seated. Rita Ward and American Central Model? Tyra got fired towards the end, and then Rita Ora took over for, like, one season. I already know this. Because I lived it. I was there, boots on the ground in real time.

How did she get fired from her own show? They talked about it a little bit in the third episode But they just wanted like it ended up being like well The ratings kept going down down down And it was like well Tyra's a problem So that's crazy Then they tried it again with Rita Oura She only did one season

Did ratings go back up? No it was kind of over after it Yeah I don't think it was Tyra after 50 seasons I think it was the show Well she was getting a little nuts but That's what made the show Can't stand Tyra's scary as hell

But they made the show Like obviously the scary part of it It's just so weird because like my memory of the show is like my childhood self and I've seen obviously clips and stuff as an adult like but more of the meme silly stuff. And then seeing these same like episodes and photo shoots and like scandalous moments like as through like the adult lens was such like a weird like conflict of like wait I remember this so differently as a kid like the way I perceived it versus like as an adult. So it was so it was so trippy. I think the one where like I really was like I really was like. like, oh, I was so, like, naive as a child was like when Kenya, she was one of the models who was very thin, but like her storyline was like, she can't stop eating bagels and she's, she got

the pudgy stomach. That was crazy. Crazy. Yeah. And I didn't like clock it as a kid of like, oh, she's gluttony. Her deadly sin photo shoot in the coffin was she's gluttonous. She can't stop eating. And then she was the elephant when they had to be an animal in Africa.

And I, like, I never put that together. as a kid and then when she was explaining it she's like oh it's on purpose now because now I see you you are making this my story like now you're making me the elephant and like my tummy's too big and I'm like whoa like I never clock that as a kid it was so weird she um also had a photo shoot where she was again in africa where she called out one of the male models who was like grinding on her and like getting like kind of harassing her and she like stopped the set and was like I'm like really uncomfortable because he's moaning in my ear and then they yelled at her for stopping the photo shoot

and it's like, well, you just got to work through it. That's crazy. Yeah. That's so insane. So again, it's just so weird. Like as a kid, I was literally just consuming it without like critical thought, you know? Yeah. The commentary. But then like even without them, you know, explaining it, like as an adult watching that,

I was like, whoa, this is like so bad. Well, even the models who were like adults, but once again, the 18, 19, 20, debate everything with 425. They were like, yeah, there should have been other people on. Oh, I think it was Shandy who was like, they're like should like, like, should like, should like, yeah, I think after we got out of the hot tub, they should have been like, okay, that's like enough. Like the boys go home.

We stop filming like whatever. So it's like, yes, they were like adults, but like they weren't obviously like they were given alcohol, which is like wild. And then also they were just very young. And they said that too. Like looking back, there should have been someone else stepping in. The crew filming everything is crazy. That phone call.

Like obviously the essay that happened is crazy that they filmed that. the phone call after they were like, why did we film that? Like, it was just so, so bizarre. And, like, no one, that fact that, like, no one stepped in. And, like, you said, not only it's higher not take accountability, but, like, also the executive producer that kept interviewing. It was, like, a hot potato of, like, like, everyone was trying to, like, throw it to someone else as far as, like, blame. It's like, okay, throwing it to the next person, throwing it to the next person.

Like, at the end of the day, someone has got to, like, a whole day and, like, be accountable here. Obviously, I understand there are, like, executives behind. that run like networks and stuff and they are like very cutthroat they literally only care about bottom line like that's it you see it now with like mergers and layoffs like they're like a lot of people's lives get completely ruined and they just have to do it to keep the business going but like when you're are ken mock or like tyer when you like are running the show you are the person that everyone's going to look to like you are the show runner so you got to really like be like yeah this was bad instead of like just being i didn't know what else to do i'm

tossing it and what really annoyed me is like they wanted to take the credit for the things that went right but they don't want to take they don't want to be accountable for the things that went wrong so like you can't be tired and be like yeah like we did this i created this show like um no one believed it and it got the highest ratings like you can't say you did everything that you are responsible for all this but then not also be responsible for the bad you have to take both yeah in this different part she talked about that specific scenario in a different lens before she was accused of anything. She was like, I'm a master

editor. You have to be, I was in the editing room. I saw it like so she confessed on one side to be in the editing room be part of that decision of what's going to be shown. Then later on to say that was my choice. The other guy, the producer, same thing. He was like, well there was much worse footage and we

actually really scaled it down. That was crazy. He said that. Yeah. He's like, it could have been worse. And I was like, what? How can it crew film basically porn like you need to stop filming once somebody is naked and there's sex acts you can't be filming that

no that is like that pissed me off all that part too yeah she's also the executive producer right tyra and executive producers like the questions always say they can cut whatever they want like they can cut anything they see the storylines like that like yes maybe you weren't there filming it but like you obviously if you were the editing bay executive producer you get like a say of what goes out there like yeah i don't understand how she could be like half

accountable, half not. Like she does admit that it's bad, but then doesn't hold, take space to be like, yeah, like I shouldn't have not allowed this to happen, not allowed it to air. It really just kind of reminded me of like just the ethics of

reality TV. And we kind of see this a lot too with people just become expendable for the sick of entertainment and the people who run these shows kind of lose their own humanity. because of like their own ambition. Weirdly, I got like the David Dobrick flashbacks

because you just see people, obviously vlog versus show. I get it. But you have a production. And at the end of the day, all you think about is like what that episode is going to be, what that storyline is going to be, that you lose sight of like, these are actual people. But then you are so lost in your own creation that you can't even like peek your head out and like look at the mess you made.

Like you still think you did nothing wrong, you know. I was going to say the David Dobrick two thing in that same sense. of like maybe it's like they're trying not to open up a lawsuit to be like yeah that shouldn't have happen and then be like well now i've been traumatized for like 20 years from it but i'm sure they signed unlike david over i'm sure they signed like contracts that like release to them of being sued i don't even yeah i don't even think it's a liability thing i think they are just so like like again maybe the and i do think like a tough retire for example i do think her initial thought of like making a show where you know fighting for like diversity inclusivity

giving girls opportunity like the cinderella story like it started for from a good place, but then became so warped. But as all this stuff is happening, like she still feels like, no, but my, like, my objective is good. You know what I mean? Like, I'm doing something good, even though you're, all these people, like, know, like, you're hurting us and ruining our lives. So.

That was crazy. It's like, if someone's just like, this ruin my life, this was, like, multiple, right? It's not one girl. It's like, multiple girls are being like, this show ruined my life. Uh, was it Danielle with the gap? Yeah. And how, like, even now, like I did not want to close the gap.

Like, I don't remember that at all. I remember the gap situation. I just thought she closed it. End of story. But she had like gone. She's like, I'm not doing this. She like, I stood my ground. That's who I am.

And then to be like, Tyra being like, okay, but if you're staying, you're closing that gap is like so crazy. And then the next season or whatever, they like have someone like wide in their gap. To me that feels like insane. And like I get it.

People can be like it's the modeling world or whatever. No, but it's like if there's a model with like a gap in her tooth and she doesn't want to close it or they take it or they don't. They mention it in the next season, like Lauren Hutton with like the space between her teeth and stuff. And that's like what made her her. And it's like so insane for someone. I don't want to do this.

And then be like, well, you got to stay or you're going to be eliminated if you don't get close. I think it kind of like a power trip where it's like, okay, these girls like are kind of like pieces in the game. And if they don't abide by the rules, then they're just like are out. You know, it's like. And that's kind of where the whole thing with like the, when Tyra screamed out like Tiffany, that whole like moment that has gone down. in history, you know, like, I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for How Dare You. It was like, how that came about was Tiffany didn't want to, like, read this prompt

or there was, they were supposed to read this crazy trip where all, there was all these French words and all these complicated designer names. It was basically to make them look like dumb models who can't read. And most people would not know, I didn't know half those words, but their designer names. They're like, who would know this anyways? Yeah. So it was to make them, like, look dumb. And all those, like, little challenges on the runway anyway, like, when they wore the

10 inch heels, like, it was all stuff to make, it was, it was, like, it was, like, like a circus stuff to make them look dumb. And she's like, I just don't want to do it. Like, I don't want to like look dumb for like entertainment. And then that's when she got yelled that for like not caring enough about the competition. And they said that was worse too. She like she screamed at me more than what they showed. She was it was like not nice.

Like that was so they just showed. Oh, I guess she said they made it look like she was like trying to help her. Like she was like upset and stuff like that because she was like rooting for her. She was but no, it was like her just like berating me and stuff. Yeah. So because with that moment in particular. with like Tiffany. The backstory was that she had auditioned for like a previous cycle and she ended up getting

a fight in a bar, but they still like wanted to, uh, they still saw her potential, wanted her to be a model. So they got her help for like anger management, brought her back for like the next cycle. So I feel like they probably thought they had like a little bit ownership. Like, oh, like we helped her. The show got her anger management? Yeah. Like they helped her.

They gave. they kind of carried her through. Like they got her anger management. They worked with her to get help. And then they brought her back for the next season for like another chance. That's even crazier than to like trigger her that way. Because honestly, she held her composure.

She did the whole time. I was like 18. If I was 28 year old Trish and someone was yelling at my face like that, I would have like gone off. Like that would have been so crazy. She was like. And then after the yelling and all that, she's like,

okay, thank you. Like she was so nice. And I was just like, what the hell? Knowing she has anger problems and you got her anger help. Like that's insane to then try and trigger her. She held it together. Damn.

And in 2017, she did an interview with BuzzFeed, and one of the lines that she recalls Tyra telling her is, you can go back to your house and sleep on your mattress on the floor with your baby during their interaction. Oh, my God. Which is crazy. They didn't air that part. They didn't air that part. And then so that's what Tiffany said in 2017.

And then in the reality check docu series, we see like Mr. Jay saying, like, there are some stuff that she said that I will never repeat that was so much worse. And so that kind of lines up with what Tiffany said in 2017. Oh. Yeah. Like just so like below the belt and so shamy. Yeah. That is so weird.

Yeah. And Tiffany. And has nothing to do modeling or anything. Yeah. It's so personal. And I, Danielle ended up saying in episode three, like they made a multi-million dollar franchise off the backs of girls' dreams. So it really was kind of like dangling, you know, their whole dreams coming true in front of them and like using that against them.

Oh, because, yeah, also too, like the threat of like, you know, if you mess this up, like you're blacklisted, like, we're the end all, be all of the entertainment industry. And girls just thinking like this is their lifeline, they have to do this to like survive. And Tiffany posted on Instagram after this aired. She ended up deleting it. But what she initially said in an Instagram caption, she said, hold up Tower Banks. let's keep it cute you are one lying tired a bit you know how you treating me the whole time off and on camera you were a bully you treated me like and said the nastiest things about me and my son that is not how the argument went but you edited it to make it look like you cared also f the shade

room f the whiz fans and f tyra banks i bet you won't sit down with me face to face and talk about it y'all don't ever defend me uh i got more money in helping more people than uh any of the top models but that's the update you guys give a damn shame uh period yeah i mean she kind of she didn't eat with that i feel like yeah talking about someone's kid is like great it's also like so many shaming things it's like one as if like having a kid at a young age is like a bad thing or wherever she doesn't know the conditions of what she sleeps and so like that it's just so weird to go for someone's like child when like or bring it into that on like tv like obviously it's all being filmed in air, but it's like such, I'm glad.

Honestly, this feels like one of those things where it's like, people don't say anything because they think their voice won't be heard or like it'll just get shut down or won't. So like the fact that everyone has like this collective voice now, it probably feels so vindicating, but the fact that she still feels like that like 20 years later or however long, like says a lot, right? It's like they didn't talk about this for so long. Now everyone's coming out so they feel like safer to talk about it. And it just, it just sucks that everyone, not everyone, but a lot of these contestants have it.

Yeah. Like half of them. And I feel like this was only like scratching the surface. There's going to be another special on E on March 11th where more models come forward. And it's supposed to be a lot more intense, I guess, is from what the other girls have been saying. Well, they probably see this and they just feel just like safe. They're like, well, actually, I have a story too. Because it's just, you feel like if you go against something for whatever reason.

Most of these people are like not in the industry anymore. So they don't really have anything like to lose as far as that goes, but they probably just feel like safe and they're like now I can tell the story and people will like listen. Yeah. Because I don't know if people would have listened back then and the power dynamics. There's also media for them to use back then. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're naturally, they really are victims.

They probably wanted to be in the space, but that was the end. Like they ruined their life and career. There was no social media or like the it. It's not like now we go on like Love Island and everyone's an influencer. I was going to say that to you. Yeah. It's like that was it. Mm-hmm, because at least on shows now, I mean, quote unquote, at least, but like, yes, you know that you're going in and it's going to kind of be a spectacle, right?

Like, you know that you go in, you know that you can be edited or portrayed a certain way. Like, you might not come off the best, but you at least know that you will have a platform where you can give your side of the story. Like, for someone that's on Love Island who doesn't get the best edit or drag race, any of these shows, you know that you, that you can have your social media. There's fan podcast that you can go on. there's just more avenues for you versus back then like you were off the show and you had nowhere to go to speak your piece or say what your point of view or what actually happened and also in episode three Danielle talked about how like Tyra knew that back then the stigma around reality TV it wasn't like they could actually have a career like we see o'landria now

she's at every runway every like New York fashion week Paris Fashion Week like everyone wants her but back then the fashion industry didn't want anything to do with these models so dinell was like i won this contract with ford my agent wouldn't send me anywhere like she wouldn't get any work some of the girls that she uh was roommates with are like the biggest models in the world right now like chenelle lemaan and yeah and she was like we were together we were roommates but i wouldn't get any work because of america's next style model oh interesting and then she said tyra 15 years later like when they saw each other in person again, said, Danielle, I'm sorry

because I knew that you were not going to get any work because of this show. I knew that this show was going to put obstacles in front of you and I just let it happen. When did she say that? She said, I guess they saw each other like 15 years after. So she like kind of admitted. Yeah.

And that's what Danielle said. She said that she was pissed. She was like, she said respectfully, Tara, F you. Because it's one thing to know that this was going to happen. to me, but it's another thing to, like, see me experiencing it, and to not say anything. Like, you basically saw me suffering and you just, like, walked on by. In the prime model years, too. Yeah.

Because it's like, you went 15 years to be like, actually, sorry. And you can't get those years backwards. Diabolical. And the whole point, right, of the show is, like, mentor models, like, Tyra's your mentor and to help you out. So it's like, the fact that she couldn't even be like, because she had so many brands, so many things or, like, the TV show even where she could have, like, hired these models to, like, be with her.

like is so actually insane. And because at least, because I'm trying to like relate it to shows now, but like even like the voice, like when they have like somebody judges and stuff. Like I know, I forget who it was, but like they kind of work with them or collaborate with them.

The only one I kind of remember off the top of my head, unfortunately is Blake Shelton. But there was like one of the country girls who was like on that show that didn't win. But like he at least like had her like open up for his tour. Like he'd like continue. you to like work with them and help them and set them up with relationships for like at different labels you know i feel like that always happens down reality shows yeah they'd love to see the

reunion they like come up again yeah yeah so the dynamic is just like so different and even with like shandy i think is probably the biggest storyline with like her um essay turned in like the cheating scandal that is all one thing right and tyra can kind of like shift the blame there but then they go into this like towards the end where then um i forget um i forget how much further along it was. I think it was like a maybe five cycles later or whatever. They have like a reunion of like the biggest top model storylines. So then they brought Shandy back for the Tyra show.

Oh. And the one thing she asked, she's like, please just like do not show the clip of me in the hot tub. Because I can't watch it. Yeah. So Tyra like brings up Shandy. She's like,

one of the biggest moments. You're an incident in the hot tub. She's like, I know you have never been able to watch it. But let's take a look now. And that is just like. evil like sorry that's actually evil that's why yeah it's one thing to be like I had no control on the show

but then now it's the Tyra show and you're doing the same thing yeah like literally your show literally she asked not to well Tyra show was always shady we talked about that already the Tire show shady as hell oh I that's wild I didn't see that part yeah that's in the third episode but wow wow the just full exploitation like not being able to hold yourself accountable for it And then in the moments where in the dokey series, during her interviews, when she tries to be like, apologetic or whatever, it all just comes across kind of like disingenuous, like a performance almost because she's so theatrical.

Tara. Yeah. Tyra's so theatrical when she's like addressing this stuff. She's like, it was a different time. Like, you could go back. Like, thank you. Thank you for holding me accountable. Yeah.

And I hope that when it happens to you, you listen when people are calling you out on your shit. Like she's so, it's almost like a politician. Yes. We're like, you're feeling something, but. Yes. It just feels like disingenuous. I don't know. It's just such a mess.

Especially if she wants to do another season. Another, yeah. Girl, we, have we learn nothing? You know, it's like, yeah, the whole thing kind of across. I think what someone that said it was right or what people were saying is like, or you said maybe that it was like about Miss Jay originally, right? Yeah. So maybe she thought, like, she had no idea, like the premise of the documentary. Maybe she just thought it was just like.

Making history, right? Like, oh, yes, I was there at the beginning. This is like my contribution. Know the angle. Maybe they didn't know the angle, I guess, like going into it, right? A lot of documentaries start with a certain idea. And then as the stories are unraveled, they're like, oh, this is really where we should grow. Casey and I sat with David Oberg.

Yeah. It does switch. Yeah. So maybe that's it. Maybe she went in thinking like. I also think that like, I mean, she's addressed America's Next Top Model stuff before. Like she, I think it was like the essence like Black Woman Awards where she kind of addresses like the stuff from America's Next Time Model.

So I think she thought she, unfortunately, I think she thought that was her holding herself accountable being responsible. I don't think she realized like it would come across stone death. And yeah, the stuff where she just like,

when she gets asked about like her relationship with Mr. Jay, and she's like, I don't want to talk about that. I should reach out to him. Like, you know, it's just, I don't know if she realized how deep it was going to go with like

the Jays and Nigel saying their side of the story with like the firings and everything. and with not being able to not going to see like Miss Jay after the she had a stroke like that's and also I didn't know how far their relationship went back to when Tyra was like a teenager

That's what I didn't know either They had showed pictures of them and she's like you know She had to walk and like all stuff like that Like it's actually so crazy to see how far back they went And like how much impact Miss Jay had on Tyra's career And then for Tyra not to like hey how are you doing Like insane Yeah it was it was a well

on documentary made Tyra look horrible. Yeah. I love Tyra. I was reading for you, Tyra. We were all rooting for you. Like, I really did like Tyra. I feel like she's so camp. This unfortunately sounds like you sucked a lot and you just haven't given enough apologies to

a lot of girls, young girls that you hurt because these people are like, these models are women. They're like, it just stayed with me forever. Like stuff that happened on that show just stayed with them for like such, like still now. And it's like that's some deep rooted trauma and you were not only were you giving it delivering it but also you were executive producing it

you were a part of it you were the team glorifying it it's like okay there was obvious some issues and i think people would give like grace to it right it's like yes it was 20 years ago i think so i think if she's like there were issues like this was the beginning of reality tv like we didn't know because like the people that were filming it were trying to be like well we shot documentary style they knew the good the bad it's like no one knew back then you know what i mean yeah the model specifically it's like but you knew like there are certain things that were always like right and wrong right you know it's like obviously like the race swap like i i got we were kind of saying like we get where they're going with some of these things obviously poor execution like someone didn't think

it through and it's like what what the hell i think mr j was saying like you know he's like mixed and he's like this is a weird like but you just like go along with it kind of getting it but then obviously like stuff like the shandy situation stuff it's like or even the gap like someone's body like i feel like forever people know like you don't push someone to like change who they are their body obviously not filming all that is like an obvious so it seemed like there's just some stuff that was just always a given. I don't know. It's kind of like when people are like, well, you can forgive people who make jokes about children like sexually or something. It's like, no, like that's been wrong for years, like hundreds of years. You know, there's never been like a time where it was

like funny or edgy. So I don't know. It's kind of, that kind of stuff gets like lost on me when they're like, well, no one knew. It was like a documentary. But if Tyra was like, you know, it's like a reality show, whatever. And I don't know. I think people could give grace if she was just like, yeah, it was fucked up. You know what I mean? It's like, because you can in your head rationalize like stuff that I did too in the past. You can rationalize it. That's not what I was think that's but then they'd be like, you fuck up, you just be like, yeah, like, I wish that didn't happen. Like, I wish I could erase that.

You know what I mean? I also think we all not to, we're aligning it so much with the David Dover, but it's true. I feel like apologies go a long way. Like, I feel like if she reached out to those girls, like she did too, I guess Danielle, right, like 15 years later, but it's like too little too late. But I guess if you reached out to someone and like showed some sort of remorse, maybe it gives a little bit of closure and be like, well, at least she admitted it, you know. that she hurt me.

Also like the intention, because if a production gets a bunch of girls, they're like, okay, you're going to go with those guys on the motorbikes, okay? Are you okay if the guys are coming over? Are you okay for bringing alcohol? Like, you can see that the intention was very clear and very malicious in that way, and they don't see them as people. They just see them as subjects for sensationalism. And instead of mentoring them, it became torment.

Like, the show really was we watched a collage. it became like fear factor Olympics of modeling. It's like she said that too right. It's not anymore mentoring anyone or trying it was just like how can we torment them, make them do things that are horrible, impossible, uncomfortable. Yeah. And see them go through that just for the chance of maybe getting 15 minutes of fame. And I personally feel my opinion is like they really hate the people that they have in

their shows, in reality shows. Yeah. Or they just look at them as – Because there's no other way to, you know – Yeah. The way they use them and they try to abuse them, you have to really not like these people and put them in those situations. They just think it's like – it's kind of like the squid games of it all, right?

They just think it's like – Entertainment. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, look at these desperate people. I'll do anything. You know what I mean? And it's – yeah, I mean, a lot of them are.

I mean, like, one reality shows, obviously they, like, you know, want a career and they want to, like, make a better life for themselves so they will give anything. But, yeah, then they exploit it. Yeah. I think – what was it the one? Nigel was like, yeah, I didn't think anything went too far, except for that one where they were doing, like, the violent crime photo shoot. Oh my God. Can I tell you? Like, this is where, like, the childhood thing, like, really was effing with me because it was like, like, I remember, like, I kind of said this in the other episode, but I remember, like, looking up, like, the photos afterwards and, like making, like, graphics and Photoshop of, like, these photoshoes. And I remember, like, the model violence one. I remember the, like, model stereotypes with the, like, like the bulimia one.

Like I remember being like, oh, these are so fashion. Like living for it. And then I'm like, what the hell was I like just consuming? It's so weird. No, insane. It's so that that photo show I don't even like remember, but the one who was like, they knew on my application that my mom died from like gunshot wound.

And then they had her do that exact one in the head. And then they're like the judges are like, you look beautiful in the shot. You look like so insane. And even Nigel's like, I don't think it was like far the time looking back. I'm like, what do you mean at the time?

Like that was. like so the stuff that they put them in it was like domestic violence like all this like crazy it's like I was like how did anyone like and it wasn't even for anything I get it was like a competition but it just like wasn't even for anything like it was just like you know they do those PSAs that are crazy or whatever but it's like there was nothing even that photo shoot wasn't like raising money for something PSA for something true crime yeah yeah but like glorifying and making it like oh that's so beautiful it's fashion yeah true I don't know if we ever seen that the Megalas against women but making fashion is crazy.

Yes. That one to me was wild. And again, just knowing all their traumas, knowing that that model's mom was died that way or was murdered that way. And all of it, just all of them knowing all this back, was it Tiffany that had an anger? Is that what you said? Yeah. Like, just

knowing the background is so insane. It's so wild. They all all them, therapy. If they went to therapy, they should get paid for by that show. Like, it's just wow, because like said, no one took it on. The other guy, too, that I don't know his name. The other one was that kind of the executive producer.

Yeah. Like literally taking, I'm like, you should. Like you made the money. You got nothing to lose at this point. Like, just take a little bit. Be like, we didn't know what we were doing. We were just kind of like, this is like the pioneer, you know? Like I was of YouTube.

Like just have reality shows. You're just like, don't know what's going to. You didn't know what was happening. Just say that. Be like it was kind of a mess and we should have had more coordinators involved and all this stuff. But unfortunately, like you said, reality show, reality TV still doesn't have that. care they don't have those people checking in on you seems right we've was it

jam jam or someone was talking about being on a reality show where they didn't have like therapy for them I don't know maybe it wasn't jammed it's the opposite the outcome they want is you're breaking down not you being fine in reality shows like they don't want they want things happen and for people to get emotional and lose it and yeah there's no like therapist for them or maybe it was like even Nia I I think one time she said they might have a therapist or something. But I just remember not having any of that care. I always think about the UK, the UK Big Brother.

They kind of did because I'd have like my meltdowns and then they would like sneak a little therapist in there. And they're like, do you want to talk to someone? I'm like, actually, yeah. So they did kind of, they did care. So I will give them that. I mean, obviously they're making a reality show and they meet. And sometimes you may not know what's for entertainment. Is someone like, you know, doing this for real or is it entertainment?

But I feel like they should always have like more safety. More people just regulating, making sure that they're looking out for the contestants. you know, like an outside company making sure. They do that on like scripted shows. There's always like an HR person that has nothing to do with like the studios or anything and they'll like talk to you if like an incident happened.

And I don't think that reality shows like the reality shows I done. They were old like 2007 or whatever. It's like they never had any of that. They were never like, are you okay? It was like you got eliminated and then it was just like and go home. Like it was just and then you just spiral.

I mean mine was so like silly and not like whatever. It was like a superhero show. But you do spiral because you like oh my how did I do wrong. Like I wish you could go back and like no one. And this is obviously way more intense. And the people were there for like months at a time away from their family, kids, that kind of stuff is, yeah, it doesn't seem like it gets much better. But be careful if you're going on reality shows. They'll always edit you.

They'll always have final control of the edit, which I don't like. I don't know if I could ever do something. That's what I'm surprised Tyra did this without final control of the edit. Because if I don't have final control of the edit, it can edit you however you want, which is kind of scary. It's like, oh, that's kind of, you could have a good edit, you could have a bad edit. We've seen this happen all the time. But I don't know Was your reality show?

I'm trying to think if there is what I would do. Survivor, you said? Do you like Survivor? I like Survivor. I don't think I could ever do it. When I was younger, I did want to do Big Brother. But it's so long now. Like, it used to just be like two and a half, three months, I think.

Now it is like, I mean, that's what Jam Jam was saying with, I think, Sheree. She was there for like over 100 days or something. And I'm like, there is literally no way in hell. That's crazy. I don't know. know if there is one I would be down to do. I really don't. It's so, yeah, I'm also, like, I don't have, like,

want a talent to do, like, a drag race or something either, so. But if you did, would you? Amazing race or... Ooh. Amazing race sounds crazy. Like, you and the area can do it. Yeah, like, amazing race would be kind of fun, I guess. That's cute.

I can do that. I could never do that. I'd be eliminated right away. I'm so slow. Physical challenge now. I couldn't do it. I mean, it would be fun. I couldn't do it.

Yeah. but god I mean I think too like I watch now obviously like 90 day fiance and now I'm like looking at that too

I'm like hmm but I make at least they have social like at least now they have platforms afterwards so I do feel like it is just kind of different now because like of course there is like that element of like voyeurism

I like get their lives do get like exploitive like entertainment and stuff but there is more at least agency and like you can go in take control of your narrative after. Yeah. So I guess that helps.

I feel like they do edit. Even like we're watching like Love is Blind than you see. And I really do feel like they edit people just to look like clowns. Like that's, everyone's here to laugh and be like, oh my God, what a loser this person is. Like it's really, it's crazy. Because I'm sure these people have redeeming qualities,

but you don't see any of it. It's so true. You see none of it in these shows. Yes. And yeah, I mean, is it worth it? You know what? I would actually say, yes, you know me? I would do anything.

I've done way worse to try and get my name out there. So it's like, I get it. I get why people go on these. Psychologically, you suffer. Yeah, T. You know? Especially not like the, you know, the, like a love island, the bachelor. Like, you see what, like you get a whole platform.

I mean, now, especially with The Bachelor, you kind of see the girls go on there to be influencer. Everybody. Yeah. I feel like everybody goes on there for that. Yeah. I don't think there's one person that's there for love. Yeah. Like the career comes kind of first, you know.

Oh, you always hear people say they want to be like second place so they could be like the bachelor. like they don't want to win. They're like, I want to be the next person. So, yeah, I guess just be prepared, get a good therapist. Probably they pay some more. And I never pay. I guess Adrian Curry had said, claimed that none of the models got paid to be in this documentary, but like the Jays got paid.

Oh, interesting. Yeah. I don't know. Usually what documentaries, for my knowledge, because like documentaries are the thing now. Instead of like reality shows, everyone's like, do you want to do a documentary? Like, it's really like kind of the trendy thing right now. And from my understanding is like you don't. I thought you don't get paid up front to, like, sell it.

But if they're a part of it, if like, let's say, uh, Miss Jay, like, it was created with, like, around her and everything like that. Like, maybe they get the money, but they said none of the models got paid. I mean, that's what Adrian Curry said. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know how, like, where a documentary lies because, like, in news, for the most part, I mean, it depends on, like, where you work. But most, like, broadcast news places or whatever, like, you, like, you.

It goes against the ethics, like pay for an interview, you know? So like the interviews are unpaid. But yeah, I guess I don't know where a documentary would lie. It does make sense. I guess if Nigel and the Js were involved in the creative and the inception and maybe their titles are more of like a producing title versus. Yeah, that's what we get. It just seems like the people accusing don't get paid.

The people defending themselves get paid. That's true. So basically you don't want to say, oh, well, the model just came to say that because she was paid. So she has incentive to pre-decisive. Yeah. them but the people that defend themselves and are more of a celebrity status they get paid to be on it because otherwise why would they do it or be there right yeah interesting we never really do get paid when it comes to like reality stuff you really don't get paid but yeah i think the model

i think for america's sexual model i've read something where they were paid like 40 bucks a day or something crazy yeah it was always low i think superhero is that too i think about a hundred dollars a day which you can guess it's something but it doesn't only don't pay the bill I'm just going to see I don't see them as the J's and Nigel I don't see them listed as like producers so I don't know That could be I just heard it from me

No I mean I mean that it does kind of make sense Yeah Yeah it'll be interesting to see what comes out of the E news one in March Yeah Because it sounds like it's going to be a little bit Like some of the models I've said like I've gone places that like I never thought I would go

When I was talking about it whatever And they've been like, you thought this was crazy? Like, they're just scratching the surface. Like, wait until you hear what you can imagine. Yeah. Because I feel like, yeah, you're so scared to tell these stories and, you know, years later. And it's like, well, people believe me, will you not? But I think now when there's just so much momentum, you're like, okay, now I can tell my story.

And I think we see that a lot. Because I did see criticism. I feel like, why didn't they say this sooner? It's like, well, like, there wasn't social media. You don't know how it's going to be. You're still trying to be a model. Like, like, how? And like, Tiffany said this in 2017 to BuzzFeed.

And like no one, it didn't become, like, I didn't know about it. So there was no traction for it back then. So yeah, and that argument's always weird. Because even I think they say in the documentary, they open it with it being like 20-20 was like the resurgence because of COVID. And everyone's like rewatching this. And then now I know because we were watching it and they were like TikToks in between of people reacting to the scenes. And I was like, but there was no social media back then. I was like, yeah, I guess it's them reacting in 2020 to it.

But yeah, there was social media back then. It would be interesting how different things would have been if there was like public. consumption giving their opinions in real time to shows how different things would be. I guess Twitter, but that's sort of like 2009 or something. Towards the end of America's Exxile model, it was like maybe like cycle 17 onward. There was like a social media element where like I remember they had people send in they would post the photos like on the website and you could send in a video of yourself judging.

But it was all very mean to be honest. Like the shift didn't really happen. And so like you kind of see shows adapting to the shift in social media. Kind of like in, again, maybe like 2020, like after Black Lives Matter, there was the more like the diversity initiatives where like some networks would be like, okay, if we're casting for reality show, like this percentage has to be people of color. So then you started kind of seeing that. It kind of got a little bit more. I think it was just recent. I feel like Jam Jen talked about that how it was just recent for a survivor.

It was like, I think maybe 2021, maybe is when. Oh, right. Oh, you said that with a black lights. Yeah. While that took like so long. I know. Crazy. Because I think, yeah, it just kind of, things got viewed with the different lens, I think.

Semi-rescinct. Honestly, kind of with like TikTok and people kind of pulling things out and stuff, you know. That's the thing with the marriage and that model. Like, it could have been kind of good because I think they did, obviously everyone was like tall thin and beautiful. But there was like diversity in the cast from the beginning, right? There was quite a bit of diversity. which I think was great because Tyra obviously talks about like a diversity she faced and stuff. So it like it was good.

And then even with the plus size models coming in and stuff like that, like it was, it could have been good. Yeah, there were parts that were well intentioned and good. And then it got lost in like the circus, the spectacle, you know. I keep saying this one clip of like, it's like Tara is not seeing the poorly gates because it was like one cycle where she had, there was like 30 girls. She told one half that they made it to, the season and they didn't make it

and then she told one half they were eliminated I know she told one half they're eliminated they're like okay like we're gonna go get your bags and then the producer comes like okay Tyra hasn't just wants to come in and say goodbye to you like she hates saying goodbye so she's gonna come in and give you guys and they're in tears crying and then they're like yeah you guys are gonna have to go home but you won't have to go very far because and then the curtain drops they're in their apartment their model apartment

and then we never see the other girls who thought they made it. They just are gone. That's crazy. That is crazy. That's insane. That's like someone being like, your dad just passed away.

He's right here. But like waiting for you to go through the emotion. Yes. And just getting worked up and like your body's physically shutting down. It's like actually he's here. Like literally like was trembling like on the floor and she's like in the cuts to her interview. Tyra literally had to come and hold me because I couldn't I was on the floor.

I couldn't move. And I was like, this is insane. insane. The show does not need to come back. Sinister. Yes. Keep it in the archives. Keep it as a documentation. All the models of that were contestants

keep coming out with your stories. We want to hear. Your voice is heard. Like, just crazy. A lesson for, even now, a lesson for all these beast games or everything happening. Let's just, you know, care a little bit about someone's psyche.

You know what I mean? Let's get like a psychologist on board, a therapist on board, like something. I mean, like I get it. Yeah. Like, it'd be, boring to just watch everyone just be like fun and happy but we can do it with a little more care. Yeah. Just crazy. And it's it's basically greediness because they're like those shows make so much

money and they want to pay the list and give the list care to people. Yes. That are making the show. That's what I'm saying. They literally despise these people. Specifically America's Next Top Model. They have all those brand integrations. You know they're sponsored. Yeah. Every challenge. The elephant one was like for a lotion like juvenile or something. Yeah, and it's like, they're getting paid. Those models should be getting a little more than the average reality TV contestant because you're literally giving free promo to all like cover girl.

So many integrations, yeah. It is wild and those girls, yeah. And then the fact that they couldn't even like get ahead because of the show is just insane. Well, one of them's a famous actress now. They said from... Leo Tipton. Are you thinking of it?

Oh, maybe. Yes. Leo Tipton? Yeah, that sounds like that. She, I remember she was in crazy. stupid love. Yeah, that sounds right. God, I forgot what her, like, previous name on America's

textile model was. But yeah, she was in crazy, stupid love, and she was in a couple other things. But she got pretty big. Yeah, there's some people who, like, just went on to do some... But I, again, in episode three, like, Tyra does kind of take credit for some of these girls. She's like, Winnie Harlow, one of the biggest models in the world. I'm like, well, she did that, like, not because of you, but, like, kind of in spite of the show. There's some things...

Oh, did she not win? She didn't win, and she, like, did not like her experience on the show. but she has a bit of LIGO. So she was like one of the, you know, a cast scene that was supposed to be like historic. But I think she kind of succeeded in spite of not because of. You can't take credit. It's like, no, you kicked me off the show.

Yeah. So there's some success stories, but not because the show did so much for them, but because they were able to just get lucky after, you know, and keep working hard. But yeah. Yeah, America's That Talent. Don't say you discovered me.

Howie Mandel. Just kidding. I told you I saw him recently and he's like, oh, do you remember we met on America's Got Talent? I was like, I remember. Like, why would I not remember that? How would you remember that? That's so crazy. I got famous in spite of it, not because of it.

Work. That was a humiliating one. But I guess you go on there. I guess they kind of assume, I wonder if they assume you go on there for attention because that was 2012. I wonder if they assume or they do they assume that. you think you're good and you should be on there? That is, I feel like they, I don't know, because I feel like they probably think that they're,

I think I would think that you think you're good. Does that make sense? But I don't know if like the producer mine has that, you know? Right. Because I, there's a famous America's Got Talent or maybe it's America, I think it's America's Got Talent where like the girl looked like pink and they told her to sing a pink song and she, and the producer's like, no, you have to sing pink.

And then they went out to the, she went on stage to perform and the guests, the judges were like, why would you sing a pink song? If you lived like her? Yeah, they're like, and she's like, no, but they made me. And she said it on stage. Like, no, no, they made me.

And then they're like, they made me. And they're like, no, like, off. Like, you're not pink. Like, they accumulate her. And she like, they made me. And I had that same experience too. They like, they told me I was doing like, Nikki Minaj.

And then it was like, America. Then they had changed the Star Spangled Banner. Like, and then like, literally, like, the day before it starts me away. And then the minute of, they're like, can you just like make one up? And I don't make one up like in and out. It was like so weird.

It was like weird. The whole thing was weird. I think they set you up for failure probably. If you're like a joke or maybe they don't know if you're going to be a joke. I don't know. It's hard to tell. Yeah, no.

It seems like they have, they know the joke ones. Because you see the show goes from like a really funny one to really horrible one to to really good one. And they know because they know ahead of time. But they don't know how the audience is going to react. Maybe the audience could have like, maybe if I went out now and like I did what I did what I'm,

Maybe the audience would be like, wow, you know what I mean? Like maybe they don't know how they're going to react. I think they set it up in a way for the audience to react. They kind of know. I don't know. Because I know when I did the fast reader on, what is it? Guinness World Records. Like that one I thought because I just had America's Got Talent, I was like, oh, this is obviously like a joke.

And then I obviously didn't win. And I felt super humiliated. But then they're like, oh, do the press tour in New York City. And I was like, oh, that's random. Like I thought I was like the joke of it all. No, but it's two different things because doing speed reading on America, I got talent, doing speed reading for World Guinness, two different things altogether. Should be in the Olympics, speed reading like speed skating.

I would love to compete. At the same time. Speed skating? Why did you juggle? Speed reading. Oh, you're doing both, okay? I was juggling. I was like, yeah.

All right, well, America's time model canceled until March 11th, then will be canceled even more. That's coming up. March 11th is so short. I know. February is a short month. It's crazy. Like next week is our last week of February. I know.

Goes too fast. Oh, yeah, the big, okay, I need you to call in the favor to your good friend, good Judy's sister, Miss Alex Cooper, and get me seated for that Hannah Montana 20-year special. What is this? Alex Cooper is hosting the Hannah Montana 20-year special

with Miley Cyrus. I know. I was like, she hosts everything. She is. I know. The female Rensy Crest. She is is everywhere.

I love that for her. Female Mind Secress is so accurate. Yes, but also share some with the rest of our hosts out here. Like, she is hosting everything. Oh, the fix, Hannah Montana. What does this mean? What is happening? Is it a sit down?

Yeah, it's a sit-down retrospective with Miley Cyrus that's going to be on Disney Plus looking back at the 20 years of Hannah Montana, which is crazy that it's been 20 years. 20 years. I remember, like it was yesterday. Wait, how does she? She's my age. So she's going to be 33. So she started at 13.

Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. She seemed like always a little kid to me. She always seems little to me, but I guess she's grown up. Yeah. She sure is.

Yeah. Wow. I'm so seated for it. I'm so seated for it. Who else is the whole kid as Billy Ray? Okay, that's kind of the problem because everyone's like, why is Alex Cooper? Why isn't it more of the cast? Really, I think she had a following out with Billy Ray Cyrus.

I, she, there was like a whole thing with, um, Mitchell Moose. so. What happened with him? He was arrested for theft in public intoxication. Okay. Are those misdemeanors? Not a felon, right? I mean, felons are fine too, but it wasn't like he unalive somebody.

And I guess there is some. Miley also claimed that he was like when they were kids. So like 13, 14, like smoking on the set of Hannah Montana as well. and Mitchell. So I feel like there's some weirdness there. She had a following with Billy Ray. I guess, I mean, Emily Osmond, she's on the young Sheldon's been awes.

So she's still working. They seem to be like still friendly. Oh, she was the best friend. She was Lily, yeah. So she, I'm sure they'll come in it. I'm sure Jason Earl's a brother was going to be in it. Jason Earl's brother. Jason Earl's brother.

Jason Earles was Miley's brother. Okay. Moises, Arias will probably be in it. He's still working. Love him. He ate. He's in the show Fallout with Watson Goggins, actually. Is he an adult now?

No, he never grew up. But does he look like an adult? Or is he like beans who always looks like a kid? You know what I mean? Like he feels like someone who'd always look like a kid. Yeah, he does still. He looks like a kid in adult cosplay, but he's an adult. That's what I'm saying.

Even Jake Shane in a nice way. Like he gives him kids vibes. Like to me he gives like he could be 14. I see what you mean. But he's an adult. And you're like, oh, okay. But yeah. Very that.

Okay. I love that. I love it. Stay looking like a... Oh, Jacob Satorius is another one who looks like a child. Yes. And he's like 25 talking about banging it out. And I'm like, talking to Shane Dawson.

I'm like, what is happening? I'm like, are you 12? And then I'm like, oh. But, like I said, I truly mean that. Like, it is a serve. I look like I'm 40 since I was like 18. Like, I'm 18. I look like a 40-year-old woman.

Like, you know, so I'd rather it be the opposite way. Shout out all the people who still look like kids. It's pretty impressive. I love it. Yeah, I like, I like him. All I was said, I'm seated. So, no, Billy Ray. I don't, I know.

Billy Ray is, like, chimed in on the 20-year anniversary special. He just, like, posted that he's so excited for it on, like, Twitter and stuff. But he has a way. Go stay with Fire Starter Moon, your little. Actually, no, they're divorced now. Fire Starter Moon, you remember his, like, girlfriend that he, or wife? Yes. That he married, and she was, like, an extra on the set when she was, like, a child.

Mm-hmm. And then he married her, and then they did those weird videos together. Well, now she's, like, on TikTok being, like, he was a She's like sharing, like, yes. Oh, you've seen it all? I haven't seen it. I've read an article, but about it, but yes.

I'm like, girl, are you okay? She wasn't okay. Like, those videos are like them just being like so weird together. But then I realized like, oh, she's like, but now he's with Elizabeth Hurley? Oh, I didn't know that. Which is like, she's been with Hugh Grant. She's like, obviously she's your famous, Austin Powers. Yeah.

Yeah, she's been, she was with Pete Davidson. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, she's like beautiful. And he was just like, what? He was just on mass singer. I was like, this is so weird that you're with Elizabeth Hurley. like, and then we're all gagged.

Okay, Rita Orah being gagged, that it's really Ray Seyer is undering that mask. No! It's like, of course he'd be on this show. Where else would he be? Like, he's not, and he's saying, achy, breaking heart. And Mo's like, oh, I know this song.

I'm like, yeah, his one song back in 1985. Like, that's it. That's all he was nowhere. He scares me. He should not be invited. I hope she has some can't be around me in 100 feet, some sort of thing. He's a little scary, right?

A little spooky from what I have seen. Yes, in my opinion. I agree. That's my opinion as well. Yeah. But he was hot. on the Hannah Montana show. He was hot,

but something happened to you, sir. Yeah, it was weird because I guess my mom knew. I remember, like, when we watched Hannah Montana, like my mom knew who he was. Yeah. And, like, when, like, he was her crush when she was young. My mom, too. Yeah, so that kind of makes sense.

Yeah, I knew the song and you know, like the person, you're like, oh, that guy's kind of hot. He has long hair in the 80s. Like, you know, oh, he's back and that's fun. Then you're just like, oh, generation's coming together. It's like, well, we're going to watch this together. Yeah. Then he became like a weirdo.

And then all this stuff Miley said about him. and you're like, oh, maybe something's wrong with you. I hope. There was rumors that there was going to be like a concert, and I hope that she does do a little concert. I know Miley is like anti-concert now, but Miley, please throw that wig up in the air, run under it and take a microphone and sing best of both worlds.

The other side of me, if we were a movie, I got nerve. Like, rock star, old blue jeans, true friends. You should be hosting. Have Oscar be like a secondary host. Did the ice cream freeze? Drag a pose. Do the milk shake? Like, I know the hold down, throw down.

Don't get me started. I've led for, miss my... Like, literally before the show premiered. First of all, let me clock this. I saw The Cheetah Girls live, who was the opener? Not Miley Cyrus, Hannah Montana. Hannah Montana was the opener for the Cheetah Girls. Wow.

Yeah, it's the Cheetah Girls Christmas concert, mind dear. Oh, where was that? It was at the Universal Amphitheater, which has now been demolished. But my dad took me. It was me and my dad watching Hannah Montana and the Cheetah Girls. And this was before the show premiere. And I was like, this girl's gone. Wow.

This girl's gone. She's gone. Wait, really? My mind. My mind. Oh my God. Before the show premiered, there was a photo of my, it was like, meet Miley Ray.

Before she was even like Miley Siles. Wow. And like a J-14 or like a Tiger Beat one of those. In eighth grade, I remember like during reading period, our 15 minute, it was like called deer. It was like drop everything and read. Girl, I had the, the pop star magazine. I was educating myself.

And there was a tiny little photo like, because she wasn't big. No one had seen it in the Montana. Just a little photo like meet Miley Cyrus. She's gonna be the new Disney Channel star. I cut it out and I put it on my desk and I was like this girl's going places. Wow. In a crane. You almost popped it.

I sat down and I said I want to make history. Yeah. Oscar, this is why you are so irreplaceable. Like you're so valuable. Oscar can reser. He knows. He can spot. If you get the Oscar sale of a purple cat's eye.

Yep. Yep. Me coming back. Miley Ray before my... Like, you know, you are so in. And if you get Oscar to come in with you, you are like the revamp. You are the rebrand.

You are everything. I was living for the girl before she even debuted. Yep. I was like, she's got it. She's got it. How are you going to get there? How are you going to be a part of this? You're going to text Alex Cooper and be like, hey.

Can I do some carpet interviews? Is there going to be a carpet for it? Like, how do we get there? I'll be your producer since you know Morris. I'll produce you and you can go with that microphone. Oh, my God. Like, I lived for the dog. Is Tyre going to be there?

Oh, my God. The Hannah Montana movie of the union. Yeah. I mean, she is the star of the Hannah Montana movie, so maybe. That's how far as I got for it. Not because no shade to the movie. I remember, like, we started to watch it. I just saw the tire, like, with the shoe store thing.

And I was like, oh, okay. I would love to watch it. Maybe I watched it. I can't remember. I can't remember it, but, yeah, I like the idea of Hannah Montana. I maybe should need to watch it a little more. I loved Hannah Montana. I was like, that was my girl.

Was Osse about her name? Or no. Yes. He was. He was like one time in it. Yeah, he was in it. He was like one of the love interests. I was like a hardcore Hannah Montana stand.

Like literally like the Hannah Montana slash Marley Cyrus concert. My dad took me to that. It was gaggy. It was gaggy. You gotta get there. Let us know how we can be a part of this. I'll DM out to you run over phone number. I can have her people information.

Oh, you weren't that close. He just won the trophy. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. Still set up through people. You had Tanojo campaigning to be signed to that in the On Wall Network, but we ain't got her number. Damn.

I don't. But I'll find a way. I'll find a way. C.A. will find a way. Lydia's always listening. She'll always ask me, do you really want to do this?

She always like, okay. Even Congress, I can get someone to help you. Like, she's so on it. So let's figure out if this is a big thing or if it's just like a little sit-down thing. Either way, if there's a concert, we want to be seated for it. Or there's Oscar wants to be seated for it. Maybe I'd come. I don't know.

Maybe. I'd like you would live. Yeah, maybe I would live. I kind of want you to have a Hannah Montana cosplay because it would kind of be like your, what dreams are made of when it's like brunette and blonde Trish like the same time. Yes.

Performing with your style. Like that's fierce. I think I looked it up one time and I feel like the only pink outfit she had was like episode one and a pink robe with pie on her face. Girl, let me tell you. I know exactly what you get. You have more pink outfits. It was Hannah Montana, the soundtrack volume two, I believe.

Watch me be completely wrong. No, I love. I hope you know. Yes, exactly. Look, she's wearing this white. It's the pink jacket with a white tank. That's giving classic Hannah Montana. That's classic Hannah Montana. And don't get me started on a Hannah Montana forever.

Let's see. Look at that. She's wearing the pink little number. The wig wasn't serving as much in Hannah Montana forever. We all know. The wig truly reached peak wig. The peak wigginess was season two because that thing was late. Season one, she threw it up in the air, ran under it,

and she grabbed the microphone, best of both worlds. Mixed it all together, honey. But season two, we had budget and it was like, I got nerd. and she was really serving season two. I like a flop wig, though, too. As you, you love a plop wig, yeah. I love a little shaking ghost. Hannah Montana forever, though.

They put a little too much of that sea salt spray. A little too much of the dry texture spray. And they really tried to like, you know, too real. Yes. So it was looking a little dry. Which one are you dressing up as if we do a Hannah Montana day? Oh my God.

That is an excellent question. That was an excellent question. I've given Moses references to Hannah Montana's closet. That's the only thing I know. I typed in like walk-in luxury closet and it comes to like Hannah Montana. And I'm always like, can you build this for me? This would be so good.

That's all I know about Hannah Montana. Buy too. I do love the classic of like, you know, the red jacket with like the sparkly little candy. Oh, it's giving like the pink version, but red. T. It's giving the same style. I also do love, this green little number is one of her most famous.

Like the green, the green sparkles, the jeans, the bell. Oh, is she wearing a little scarf? Yes, the little scarves. I do love those. I really love those actual stuff. I really love those little scarves. Yeah. So honestly, you could do this for when you do, Hannah,

and Miley. Miley's also wearing pink on the album cover. Oh, okay. Wait, I'm gonna take the wig off. I'm confused. How are you going to sing with yourself? So it's gonna be like Hannah and Miley. Did she do that?

I was seated at the world tour. The Hannah Montana Meet Miley's Cyrus World Tour. How she sing it together? She's saying, Miley sang best of both worlds with Hannah Montana because Hannah was on the screen behind her. It was her, but obviously. But Hannah was singing best of both worlds on,

and it made it look like she was on the stage with her. So they sang together. But I don't get it. It was like CGI. what was happening on stage? What was the projection? Yeah, so projection of Hannah Miley.

It was a book, damn. It was a projection of Miley as Hannah singing with Miley as Miley. Okay. I like that. That's kind of cool. That is cool. Is that the one with the big, like, tongue slide? I just saw that on TikTok.

That was a pose. Different. Yeah, that was the death. I was giving Hannah Montana. I was giving like, oh, fly down a tongue. I was like, okay. Different. I like that, Miley too.

I like Miley. Like, I've never gotten into the stand era because I think I'm like older. but like I like her vibe I like her She always seems cool Yeah she lost me when she got a little too cool She was doing drugs and like being like Just a cool like hipster girl

She gotta lost me because I was very like very I'm a Taylor Swift girl you know So I'm like I'm keeping a clean So like seven things there you didn't like No I love seven things Oh once she got to like I even like bangers but it was post bangers when she got a little too raunchy For me

Oh what was she doing? Oh with Robin Thick It was like uh I think Robin was called Deadpan And I know the guys is love dead pets i'm so sorry but it was like just very experimental it was very like acid trippy and that was just a little too much for me right i'm kind of a straight-edge kind of girl oh you're like i don't want to be wild i'm like our song is because i'm a screen door sneaking now late like i'm that kind of

girl you know so is that taylor or mylie i'm like taylor so the way you sang it was kind of myly vibes i was like okay got it so she kind of lost me there but she's she won't me about i love an edgy I don't listen to it, but I love an edgy. Yeah, you probably would be more of like a dead pets kind of love. Yeah, or someone gets like bad. Yeah. I like her new one too. The one she did the Grammy, was it the Grammys that she won?

For flower? Yeah. I like her just like vibing. Yeah, I live for her. I do live. I always have a special place in my heart for Miss Destiny Hope Cyrus, her government name. Oh, I love that. Okay.

Mm-hmm. Not that. Mm-hmm. You're such a fan. You're such a fan. Touch Trish will be the official course. Yes. Let us know how we can be.

We love to be tied in. It sounds like a pretty epic, epic thing. 20 years? Like, they have to go big. No. 20 years is really, it's like Black Parade is 20 years. My and Sarah's, me on YouTube. 2006 was where it's out.

That was the year, graduate high school. Barely. I graduated eighth grade. So we wouldn't have even been in high school together. That's when you know you're older. I always go, like, could we have been in high school together? With the overlap. Yeah, like a freshman senior year or something.

Yeah. Wow. you would have been eighth grade. Damn, that makes me feel old. I always think we're at the same age. You give older vibes. You give younger vibes. Thanks.

Yeah. Thank you. I tried to be. I would love to be Gen Z. Weirdly, because all your references are from like, the 80s. Yeah. Like, literally older than I am.

Because I always date people in they're like 60s. So I'm like, but kind of grace who you don't know. Like, yeah. But she just got a role, right? She just got Daphne in a live action Scooby-Doo. Yes. I was like, oh, that's kind of everything.

The most. employed girl in Hollywood right now. Like, she's kind of unstoppable. I see her and then I think of you. I was like, oh, that's Oscars. Another client. Yeah. Team Oscar is the winning team.

I'm telling you. Yeah, you have. Have you gotten a flop yet? I'm trying to be a flop. I don't think you have. You do love to bring up a Jojo. Not that she's a flop, but you do love to bring up a Jojo. Well, she's not a client.

She's just in the news. Oh, you love her. I mean, I don't even live. I mean, again, no offense. I don't know if I live for her like that. Like, I don't know if I'm a si-uanator, but. Same. We need to, and also, we have to stop talking about JoJo

because someone did a TikTok of like, Tricia's obsessed with Jojo and I was like, okay, I'm done. Because I don't hate her love. In fact, I would say I mostly like, but I'm done because I don't want to be that person. So I'm like, okay, no more for a while. For like a month. You know she does something crazy.

Jojo, no Jojo hot topics for a month. We're getting engaged and married next week. We can't talk about it because I saw, you know, you see one person being like, wow, she's upset. You're like, you know what? You're right. Maybe I do bring it up too much, but I play maskar on hot topics. He brings her up more.

No, I am a journalist doing my job. So, like, if someone's in the news, it is my duty to cover it. Like, what am I, I, I took an oath when I graduated Cal State University in Northridge, and I got a bachelor's degree in the mail that said, bachelors of arts, whatever. Science, art, I don't know. You don't know what you got? I don't even know. I never even opened my diploma.

I'm so sorry. I didn't go to my graduate. What do you mean? It's in the envelope still? I don't even know where it's at. There's nobody ever asked for it. Nobody ever asked. You go to a degree and you don't have to, like, show it as, like, proof of something.

D. Like, no one. But seen in college school. We do love a college degree. I just looked up in McKenna Grace. And then I, the video is you crying over. I think when you go. Oh.

What if I was pregnant? Yes. What is the meme? What's the? The tweet is other actresses seeing McKenna Grace walk into the audition room for Daphne. Wait. Why does it say up next and then you're pregnant down there? What?

What? I'm so confused. Do you see that? Oh. Did you do that? Wait. What? What is this? What are you on? What part was it?

I was on Twitter and I looked up McKenna Grace and I was the first tweet. There's a little scroll to the bottom says like up next and then I pop up just like a pregnant belly. Maybe because I don't know. I can't tell if someone just made that or like. It's like a graphic. It almost looks like one of those when they had those rogue Snapchat shows about it. Oh yeah. It looks like one of those.

There's always a meme. Happy to be in it. literally just looked up McKenna Grace. I was trying to find one tweet that was listing every franchise she's in because she's been in so many. That's crazy. The Big Bang Theory, Marvel Universe, Scooby-Doo. Wow.

Five Nights at Freddy. Hunger Games, Scream. Like, she's in so many franchises. That is actually insane. It's like, yeah. She's very employed, honey. That was my hot topic, Big Bang Theory. Oh.

Did you see? Cruz and Polly, the actor played Creether Polly, donate $45 million to family. Oh, you know, $45 million. That's what I read. I was like $45 million. First of all, how much money do you have from Big Bank theory? You didn't see it? Like, he's helping like random families, like GoFundMe's and stuff like that.

And he started, I heard 45 million. Am I getting that wrong? 4.5 million? Maybe I got a decimal wrong. I don't know. I'm not creating a math. Well, no, his net worth is worth $40,000. Oh, I thought he donated.

His entire net worth. I don't know if he did all that. But, yeah. He just says, yeah, he'll go through GoFundMe and pay random families medical bills. Um, he said, we support animals charities. And yeah, he'll just go through and donate and go fund me. I do that all the time on TikTok. If you're on TikTok and you have that sob story as a TikTok, I am going to donate.

I love it. I love when you can, like, bring it over their threshold. But then you go back and check, you're like, oh, I brought it off a threshold and then they like up it. And then like, fair enough. Like I do like, do it for sure. But you always feel like good. You're always like, I did it. And then you go back on like, oh, man, I didn't get over the threshold.

You got him over one threshold, which is good. I admire him. I love this. I love him. What's the actor's name? Canaan Nayar, I believe. Is he doing anything else? Is he current in production on IMDB and anything?

Let's see. He also would have been a good at Heathcliff. He would have been great. I love him. I love this actor so much. I really do. He doesn't give in the first few seasons a Big Big Big Theory, but the end of Big Big Big Big Theory,

like the last few seasons he's giving actor. His last thing was called Christmas Karma. That was last year. Oh, no, upcoming, upcoming. He's in a movie called Patel and a movie called the up-and-comer coming out later this year. So be seated for those two

projects. I will. You know me, but I love an actor. I'm seated for everything they did no matter what. But $45 million is like, do you want to do something with your life? I'm like, why do you have to act anymore if his net worth is $45 million?

I mean, Kari Koko's still working, so. She really is. She was just doing press for something. I like her. I want her. I do like Kali Koko too. On the show. She has had something so real about being a mom.

What was it? I retweeted it. I was like, love this girl. She's talking about like how people want to shame her because she lets her daughter use an iPad sometimes. She's like, I never go.

I never would think to like comment on other people's parenting. It's so weird that people like want to come and yell at me for. When people. The first thing people comment on. The iPad thing is so crazy. I'm like everyone just let do whatever the hell you want. It's very much Courtney Cartaghanian. It's like you don't get a prize for not watching TV.

When people are like, I would never let my kids do iPad. Okay. don't care have them stare at a wall like it's this is crazy too okay one of my favorite

I feel like I'm saying her name wrong she's one of my favorite influencers but she never says her own name you don't influence her self Vidya Vidya she's on

she's the one with the husband that's a lawyer has the two kids she calls them poopish I think I'm saying her name wrong but yeah she she's I love her

she's like comment on myself she's everything she did a one where she talks about her family because they do like caviar bumps like they're a bougie family right whatever but like she has two kids that are like eight and ten and she showed them like going on vacation

and she went near the parent that makes your kids read for an hour on the flight before like doing anything else everyone was trying to cancel her for like making her kids read like they were like literally reading books and they're like wow like kids should be kids like let them just enjoy their vacation time i'm like what like shouldn't you be excited that someone's like making their kids read like it was so wild how people just get mad at anything so whether they have an iPad whatever but yeah like you just i love kate like oh she's so real she's so real She was also the one about mom. Was it Andy Cohen that was like, what do you think about Ashley Tisdale and the toxic mom drama?

She's like, do we need to write about it? Yeah. Do we need to write about it? She kind of ate on that one too. Yeah, because she also has like a mom group. I think that was a question. Like, as someone who has a mom group, like, what do you think? Right.

How many has a mom group? Chrisscaro Romano has a mom group that went to Backtree Boys. I was like, I need to be in a mom group. I didn't know the right thing, but that's fun. That's fun. I don't have one either. Yeah. Maybe your sister-in-law.

Ask her. Yeah, that's true. I should ask her if she has one. I have never heard of a mom group, to be honest, every time I've, yeah. Yeah, because basically, because a lot of, like, when we take the kids to classes, you see them, we usually see, like, a cluster of moms. Yeah. And then you kind of hear, like, they make plans like, yeah.

So tomorrow at the mall, they're going to have the reading and the next day of the thing. So, so, like, coordinating events and things, and especially at a certain age, carpooling. Because they heard, they also recruit. They hear them, like, is your boy in soccer? Is your, you know, they. try to get right so there's all that I think it's basically we don't have that at ballet class and she's too young it's too low oh everyone just is on their phones I watch I watch mom I love being there and just like right in the window they tell you not to I think at age five are

the school set out a thing and be like actually you can't watch from the window when your child's five years old it distracts them I'm like oh that's weird well every year we see how they have a little bit more discipline right so I guess that's really like don't watch them I'm so gonna watch I think it helps sometimes like here I am anyways love that love that for big bang theory just so many wins Kaylee Kuoko she said she's not in a group chat either that she only talks to Johnny Gluckie I was like oh that sucks about Howard Sheldon probably is like nope nope none of you I got a spin off I don't need to talk to anybody that was such a good show I miss it Wanda brothers

Well girl they got two spinoffs that you can be seated for I mean I don't know if I can get into it I really can't but maybe maybe if I'm really desperate And another one on the way That what's his name? The comic book guys The comic book store nobody wants that

Nobody wants that character She said she's gonna Well she hinted strongly hinted that penny will be in it So what was his name? I don't even remember that man's name I'm so sorry Stewart That sounds right

Yeah and it's like all His character's always whiny ended up dating like Howard's mom yeah and I'm like like living in yeah I'm like I don't like this character no offense to the actor the character no I don't care about anything else it's weathering heights quotes adaptation I'm still in that mood Moses did you see the baby animal story baby animal that baby monkey no oh where's the baby monkey is this baby monkey ask dr. Evan if he can bring a monkey next time we should I want a baby monkey in here What's the baby monkey story?

Well, it's kind of a... God, I have to see how to pronounce this name. It's kind of a sad. Well, sad, but happy ending, I suppose. There was this baby monkey that went viral because he was abandoned by his mother and his only friend was this, like, plush toy. He literally just goes around dragging this, like, monkey plush around because he has no mom. I know.

Wait, that's so sad. He's in Japan. Is he in the wild? No, no, no. He's under care. His name is Punch. She's a macaque named Punch. He was born in the Ichikawa City zoological and botanical center in July.

His mother rejected him after birth, and he had to be hand raised by the zookeepers to survive. And without a mom, his only friend was this stuff orangutan toy that was given to him. No, it's so sad. From his zookeepers, and he would just drag it behind him. And that was the only company he had. How old is he? He was born in July. That's his little, like, soothing.

That's a little attachment person. I guess the same age as Aquaman almost, right? Yeah, they could be friends. He was born. Tarzan style. He was born July 26. So he's a little younger. A couple weeks.

Yeah, a couple weeks after. That was our original due day. Oh, they could be friends. That's cute. Aquaman and Punch. Yeah. That's actually a really good. A great combination.

That's a good story. That's good movie. Anyway, he went viral and now there's been some other macaques that are trying to befriend him now and everyone's clocking these two new macaques because like, oh. The second, yeah, the second punch gets a little clout.

Yeah. You want to be this friend. What are that mom? Is that mom coming back? Where's the mom? She comes back around. Actually, a punch. Where is, yeah.

Maybe they took him. Maybe they took them. Did they take him away from the mom? Did they separate him or they just rescued him? They said that the mom rejected him. But what? What does that mean? Mom's not reject.

She doesn't breastfeed. She doesn't care for him. Just leaves him. Maybe it hurt her. Did anyone check on the mom? Maybe she was going through postpartum. That's crazy to be like, well, she rejected him. So we're going to just take him.

It's like, well, she probably was going through something. Maybe her nipples hurt. Yeah, where did the dad go? Dad is out. That's true. The dad just. That's crazy. Hit him with it, I guess.

Investigate more. Yeah. You are asking the good follow-up questions about this. Because that's kind of crazy. Like all of a sudden he's in like a sanctuary, which is great, but also like, like, how did he get it? Well, he was born in the sanctuary. Oh.

So where's the mom? Did they keep her in a separate part of the sanctuary? Like, I don't understand. They'd let her go. Something's suss. Something's fishy here. That's so sad. That actually makes me so sad.

I know. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So I went viral this past week and all of a sudden now there's more muckieks that are trying to come in and befriend him now, which is, yeah. You know what? I guess it's better than being alone for the rest of your life. He doesn't know. I don't think monkeys no clout.

Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't think they get it. He's pretty smart. They are smart. I don't think they're like reading the internet though. They don't have thumbs. And also IKEA just donated a whole bunch of plush toys. Because I guess the stuffed orangutan was from IKEA.

So they donated punch like a hundred stuffed animals to play with it. But I'm like, I don't know. A little excessive. It's like Zame Malik when he's like, I give $500 for a tooth. It's like too much. We don't need to go so excessive. That's so wild. You know, IKEA had a monkey scandal, didn't they?

They had that little monkey. The IKEA monkey. I remember that so well. Because whenever Elvis wears like Malibu's like jackets, she gives me like IKEA monkey nachos because she's like just so little. The jacket's so big. Yeah, it's so big. I think I showed it to you for the first time in New York.

I'm like she's like a little IKEA monkey in that thing because it's just like. Maybe they're just trying to salvage their image. IKEA? Yeah. So when people look it up now it will be this monkey instead of that. Wait. That monkey was cute, but I think that monkey was diabolical. I think that one was maybe like terrorizing IKEA.

Was it? Yeah. I think it was like in a different, like a different country and I think it was like causing chaos. That little monkey in the jacket. Oh, also a macaque. No way. Yeah, named Darwin.

I'm telling you. They're trying to. Named Darwin. The monkey escaped from a car leading to a $240 fine from the owner and Darwin was moved. I don't think Darwin did anything. I'm sure. He's like in the store terrorizing, I think. Like he went in and was doing some.

You think? Yes. I remember this like so vividly. Oh. Okay. Escape in an IKEA car park in Toronto. I think he was just wearing the little jacket and he was just walking out. I don't think he terrorized the idea.

He just looked dubious. I don't even think he looked dubious. I think he was just wearing the big sweater. Are you not seeing him peek up the window? There's like a little one of him like looking out the idea. I'm like looking at the window. That's giving terrorizing. You think?

Like hiding. Like, why do you run out of the car? I think it's terrorizing. You know, those Swedish meatballs. You get sued for slandering Darwin, the IKEA monkey. Don't sue me. I really don't think he did anything. All I see is him standing there in the big jacket.

I don't see him doing. I think he did something, but let us know in the comments below. I think it's just the owner. Literally like just so sweet. standing in front of the idea. What? Oh, he's so tiny. How do you get the jacket on?

I think that. Is that how he escaped or he got it? I didn't think though. I thought he like stole a jacket. Okay, well the owner had him clothes. He kept him warm. Oh my God. Yeah, you slandering the freaking Darwin.

That's so sad. That's a hot topic. Darwinism. Do you believe in it? Yeah. Like survival of the fittest, like adapt, adaptation, evolution? Yeah. Do I believe in evolution?

Yeah. Yes. Well, yes. But do you think we came from like monkeys? Do you know when I like came in and then they're like, you know, they're monkeys? Yeah. I 100% I believe in evolution. Okay.

And speciation. I believe in all of it. Speciation. Yes. I took one. This is the one college class I took and I remember they're talking about Darwinism and I was like, the sounds kind of insane. I think so. And it sounded insane to me.

I can't remember all the teachings. What I remember being like. I can't remember all. in my two weeks that I was there. Well, how would you define Darwinism? Like I think how you said, like the evolution of, like, right, survival of the fittest. Okay, well, you're just repeating the words I said. The weakest links get, like, out.

I would describe Charles Darwin as a scientist who just came up with something to, like, make sense. It's like the Bible. Matthew Mark, Luke, and John just making up stuff. I think you had scientific findings to back at up. I think on context clues. Because you weren't there when Adam needs to. You weren't there when the first, like, woolly mammoths were walking.

You know what I mean? They acted like he knew. Well, I think Darwin in particular, like, he was on the Galapagos Island. And it was like a kind of a speciation thing where depending on the living thing. Darwin was on Galapagos Island. I thought no, I thought there was no one. No one's on the Galapagos island. No one was living there.

No one lives in the Galapagos. He's really studying animals on the Galapagos. By himself. I don't know who we had with them. And that's what sucks to me. He's like, oh, no one's at the Galapical Islands. No one lives there. But I'm going to go.

And I'm going to discover all these things and tell you guys how we all came to be. You know what I mean? And it's like. I don't know if it was how we all came to be. But it was like. It's like speciation. Like depending on the animals' habitat, it would evolve to survive instead habitat. So like in the Galapagos, there would be animals that would survive for that environment.

I had a whole speech on the Galapagos in high school. And what was that? And that's what I knew no one lived there? Because it was like, is it like too hot or some shit? It's like there's giant. turtles there, but like no one can live on the Galapagos Islands, but they did, like, I remember like researching, like, but they do take like visa.

Like, so I was like, oh, someone gets goes there. I remember so specifically in high school giving this speech about the Galapagos. What was the point you were trying to make? I just like, one of those stupid assignments where they're like, just let us know about the Gloveras Islands. And I was like, here you go. Like, you just like research it. You go to library, write some shit down.

You know, just put a title. Name. A little picture. No, it literally was that. I was like, here's the facts. Like, Galapagos Island by Patricia Cape Yeah, and there was no, like, yeah, there was no argument. No, okay. Nothing. And I was like, this was stupid. No offense.

No offense. Did you get on that? I'm a little nervous. I don't know. Probably, nay. I went to a, yeah, I don't know either. It was weird. You remember, didn't you ever do that?

Where they just have, give you, like, random countries and you're going to, like, talk about this country? I remember how to do a state project? Why had to do a project on my state that I got assigned was in Nebraska. And that was a tough, that was a tough sell. But, but, yeah, no offense. And what, what did you learn about Nebraska? God, I think the state bird was some, it was a red, a cardinal maybe, it was red. Okay.

Sounds familiar. Corn, I think. They definitely do have some corn. So there wasn't much to work with, but. Nebraska's a crazy one to be assigned. Nebraska has nothing. I remember you knew someone that lived in Nebraska. I was like, there's nothing there.

That seems like purgatory. Shout to our Nebraska viewers. Oh, I don't think we have any. I've never once been proposed. to go to tour there, book signings, colleges. I don't think anything is happening in Nebraska. No offense. As someone from Illinois, I'm from the cornfields of Illinois.

There's nothing happening. I'm from pecatonica, Illinois, and there's definitely nothing happening there. So. I wish Dr. Evan was here to talk to you about speciation and Darwinism. I would love to. Here is thoughts. Did we come from monkeys? Do you know what I'm talking about is the evolution?

It's like a gorilla and then it's like a caveman and then it's like you're standing up right all of a sudden. Neanderthal. Yes, the evolution. I don't know if I buy it. Maybe we should take a trip to the L'Baree Tarpitz. I thought you couldn't say Galapico's Island. Oh, you can't go there.

Well, I think you can go there. You just said you can get a visa. Yeah, you can't. They accept Visa. I remember that. Visa and MasterCard inside. And I was like, well, that's odd. They have credit cards over there.

Yeah. But no one lives there. There's just a gift shop. It's just a gift shop. Maybe no one, yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. I didn't research that enough. But maybe our next field trip should be LaBriot Tarpits after our Olympic Games.

I love the Tarpits. They were free, too. They were so fine. I think the girls there. It's just so far. It's so far. And what do you learn at the tarpits? Like you just learned up.

Evolution. Darwinism, the woolly mammoths. You can see where we started. I don't think we started from woolly mammoths. What did we start from? Who's the first species? I think we all started from like one kind of cell, right? And then we kind of evolved from there.

And so where'd the cell come from? The Big Bang, I think. Okay, Big Bang theory. The whole universe was just a hot, dense space until the 13th. million years ago. Expansion started. The year at the Banda cool, the auto-d-dial-careds,

they built the wall, they built the pyramid, mass, science history, enravelling the mystery that all started with a big bang. I believe it. Actually, you came all the way back around. Honestly, just because of the theme song.

They talked about Neanderthals in there. Didn't I say that? And that, what I just said, I think I said Neanderthal. Anyways, you're right. Big Bang. It's all the same. God created the world on the seventh day.

Pooh, there was light. That's Big Bang. That's everything. It's all the same, everybody. It is. And that's it. That's it. That's all you got to know. No need to argue with anybody. Just call it what you want to call it. That's kind of the tea on creation.

And that's the team. And that's what you tune in for today. Those hot topics are as hot as global warming. There we go. All around. That's it. Well, I had Addison Ray, but it's kind of a sad one to end on, no? Oh, I didn't hear any Addison Ray, but maybe we shouldn't. That was such a good ending. I know. Okay. What happened? Her dad was arrested. Oh.

You didn't hear about this? No. He was exposing himself. Monty? Yes. To who and where? He was, it just came out via TMZ yesterday through court documents, but it happened in July. He was charged with a felony obscenity for allegedly exposing himself in Louisiana.

And he, the quote is exposing his genitals pubic hair in a public place or a place open to public view from the documents. And I guess these documents came out because her mom was trying to file for custody over her brother. How old's her brother? I always thought they were like older. I thought they were all like adults now. Yeah. The youngest is 13 years old. Wow.

I didn't know. She has such a young brother. Oh, that's sad. Oh, my God. Yes, probably should give full custody to that mother. That's sad. I mean, I feel like Addison's distanced herself from her parents for a while because they were being embarrassed. Yeah.

And it's like, I think like you give grace to people in their teens, their 20s, maybe even their 30s. I think when you're like a grown person with kids, it's like do better for your kids, especially when you're on TikTok. That's sad. And one of her lyrics she talks about like how she like doesn't want to end up like her father too. And like on her album.

Yeah, it is kind of, it is sad. And also like this getting, becoming so public too. Yeah, that kind of family drama. It sucks because it's like, I don't know. Like, what was the headline? Addison's Ray, Dad. Like, yeah. And it's like, I don't want to be associated.

Like, she's distanced herself for a long time. So I'm sure that's why she like doesn't give her interviews and talk like doesn't. Because they were marketed so much as like a family. Like the D'emilios, Addison Ray. I just remember them doing like brand deals. I mean, I think I knew you when that was happening like Raising Cains. And it was like the family eating raising canes and all the kids were involved. The mom had one.

And then he had one. And then, yeah, when they ended up separating and divorcing, they all. they went off the deep end the parents like everyone seemed so wholesome and stuff it's like at that point just get offline because didn't the mom like go to the vMAs with like young gravy or something like it was just like stop your daughter is such a mega superstar and she was a mega superstar back then it's like that's so embarrassing she was the successful one and she was basically helping them like here let me give you everything that i have and just be smart about it be nice about it yeah obviously he has some issues because he was dating like young girls like in their 20s and you're just

like you're so embarrassing and then the girls go on TikTok and be like Addison Ray's dad and she should sue him be like don't all these change your name yeah yeah all the and the press people do like don't put Addison Ray like get emancipated or something and be like no I don't want this especially like you're a Grammy nominee you're doing all this

crazy like yeah he's well he obviously has some issues so hopefully the mom gets full custody because that's crazy like if your dad's exposing himself probably shouldn't have custody at the time in my opinion I don't know I felt for her too that's why people got to be a little bit nicer to Addison Ray.

Like she, like having all those like kind of family problems too. Aired out. Yeah. And still airing out when you're just trying to make a name for yourself and doing so well. Like she's so unproblematic and she always has been. So it's like, why are you guys doing this? Mm-hmm.

Let me be messy behind closed doors like the family. You know, like when they got divorced, whatever. Just okay, stay off line then. Like don't be. Don't be messy in front of take a page out of Kim Kardashian's book. Just, you know, smile and just be responsible. respectful on social media. Don't be messy.

And in public, don't expose yourself. Keep that thing in inside your pants. Especially when you're like 50. Oh my God. But it sounds like a result of something else may be happening. Alcohol. I don't know. That sad.

It just happened? It just came out yesterday. Yeah. All right. That's sad. Well, survival of the fittest. Monty, I don't know if we're going to last. I guess he did reproduce.

It's the hot work. you know how it works, Darwinism. Oh, my God. Louisiana might not last if you had Monty Lopez there, exposing himself. Damn. That's so sad. I know. One thing about my parents, I will say, like, no one's perfect.

Families aren't perfect, but they never embarrassed me. You know what I mean? They've never been out there just, and they could. My mom's got a platform she could have, you know what I mean? But they keep it cute because they're parents. She didn't leak her company card, but that's another story. That is another story. Resolved.

That was just a slight of judgment. Or just not knowing. Very mean. Because you know what you used to with those cards? Cards back in the day used to have the number on the front. Yes. Now they're in the back. They're not in the back.

So I'm always used to like flipping it over to you. Like when we're at like a restaurant, always flip it over. And I'm like, oh, that's smart now that they're in the back because it's always in the front. And you're like, what the fuck? Like anyone can see it. We love it. Never had a mall.

Or alice or weirdness. Don't embarrass your kids. Everybody. Once you have those kids, just stop. Logan Paul. I forgot. You know? Right.

Just try to do what's best in their best interest because it's forever. You can't erase the past. You can only start now. Start now. Never too late. All right. Let us know if you believe in evolution and Darwinism. Moses, you don't have anything to say about it real quick?

Quick? Yeah. It's something that's... Oh, okay. You want to delve a deeper? For like an hour long lecture. Oh. He probably has a lecture on it.

If you go to Channel Water, he has lectures on everything. My dad will bring up something and I'm like, I think Moses talked about that. I think my dad asked me like, what is time? Like, what's the structure of time? Like, how do you define time? And I was like, wait, I think Moses literally has a video called What is Time. And he did from like 2000, like, 20 or something. He's like, what is time?

And it was an hour long video. Moses loved the time. I was embarrassed, but my dad was so into it. I'm not embarrassed. I just didn't want to sit there and listen to the lecture. Why? You wrote it. It was so good.

You could have asked me. I would tell him. You were there. You could have. My dad was so into it because you explained it. And he was like, my dad felt like connected because he thought he had the same answer. He's like, I think I had that answer too. Yeah, I think I have a video somewhere.

The way I defined it was the evolution of creation. Oh, you have a video? Of course. Link it below, Jimmy. I'll link that video. I need to know. Oh, I didn't know that. Wow.

We had a resident expert here and we're just going back and forth. about Galapagos. Look, I'm not going to ruin your, you know, gravity moment. My gravity? Okay. That's it. We love you. Love you, Jimmy.

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