Just Trish - Forgiving Shane & Ryland, Matt Rife Is a MENACE & Exposing the David Dobrik Documentary
Episode Date: November 28, 2023Trisha's got a bun in the oven, and tea on the stove--she's back with her hottest topics EVER. With Shane Dawson and Ryland Adams moving back in town ahead of the birth of their twins, would Trish con...sider making up with her former besties? And Casey Neistat teases his EXPLOSIVE Vlog Squad documentary that has David Dobrik shook. Plus, Trisha reacts to alleged "comedian" Matt Rife's cringey Netflix standup special. Subscribe to the Podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/just-trish/id1698564262?at=1010lSCj Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6bZ5tfeCt6naGMw24pRMLe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@justtrishpodcast All Podcast Platforms: https://link.chtbl.com/JustTrish?at=1010lSCj Follow Just Trish on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/justtrishpod/ Follow Oscar: https://www.instagram.com/oscargracey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Woo! Welcome back. Tis the season of Trish.
Wait, what? What happened?
I wasn't expecting tis the season.
Tis the season.
It's tis the season.
It's the season to be hot like me.
Only the real ones know that reference.
Do you know that reference?
Is it Hot Girl Christmas?
Wow!
I'm a fishy.
Oh my god, I know.
Okay, another flex here.
I just did a magazine cover and they did a little interview in Polyester Magazine.
I was talking about you and I was like, you have a co-host.
Yes.
And I was like, yeah, of course I have a co-host.
I'm like, Oscar.
I'm like, he's just supported me through everything, every cancellation.
You don't care if I've got canceled.
You're like, I'm ready to interview you.
Like it was – you've always been there.
And then I was like, he's basically like not just a host.
I mean he's our producer.
He's our editor.
He's like the only other team member of Just Trish.
Yeah.
So Polyester Zine is out now. You can order it. There's physical copies.
It's weird. This is a British magazine too. And like British people like, or British, what is it?
Publications. They like print. And I think that's like such a lost art form here. Like, you know,
as much as I love like all these other like magazines online, which are great. It's like,
they have like a print copy. You know what I mean? I love copy yeah it's like hold it and there's a really cool there's like
little booklets they've had like really big people on their covers and stuff like that and
they're like little booklets i'm like the end of the year recap so you get all the 2023 highlights
yes it's a it's this this shoe this cover just came out today but the by time machine was yesterday
was so fancy it was like they did set design like Like they built sets for me. They had a stylist.
They hired their own, you know, usually I have my own hair and makeup people, but they hired
hair and makeup people, which was like super fun because it was something different. The stylist,
like you'll see that they credit it on their website too. Like the interview, they'll be like
in a fur coat by Tom Ford. Oh man, everything was just so designer and fancy. I know cover girl.
I was very excited about it. I have another magazine shoot next week.
Oh, my God.
I'm saying yes to everything.
I don't know where this came from.
I have no idea.
I never paid for PR.
That's my flex.
I've never paid for PR, and it's fine if you do.
I have to say, like, I can validate it because every time I've reached out, I remember, like,
those first few interviews, I would, like, craft such, like, a professional email, and
then you'd be like, Oscar!
Exclamation, exclamation, exclamation. OMG. Yes. And that was the whole email.
And I was like, it's literally just me answering the emails.
Yeah, no, I don't know. Like I never, even with the pregnancy thing last year, like last year,
last week, I literally like, you know, you just never know if people are going to care. Like we
do photo shoots for like Instagram or whatever like that. You just don't know if people are going to care. And like the fact that it almost has like, it has like 750,000 likes literally like, you know, you just never know if people are going to care. Like we do photo shoots for like Instagram or whatever like that. You just don't know if people are going to
care. And like the fact that it almost has like, it has like 750,000 likes and like, that's crazy
because usually I get like 50,000 likes and not that it's about the likes, but just seeing like
people and like all these people like, like articles written about it. It's just like, so
I think page six had one. I was like, it's so bizarre to me that one people care, but two,
it's like, I don't know. It's just so random. It's just so random to me. Even my work, everyone was like, Oscar, why didn't you like give us a
heads up? Like, why wasn't this like an ET exclusive? And I was like, I didn't think anyone
I was like, oh, I didn't know it was so, but yeah, they wrote it up and everything. I was like,
let me get some photos cleared. Like you texted me. You're like, they're using these
and they are awful. Is it because it's like
on, okay, there's like one Getty image
of me. Maybe two. One that's
really, really old. Yeah, from Times Square with like thin
lips. I always see that one. And the other one's like
Celebrity Big Brother. I'm just like, ah!
And that's why I spray tanned today.
I did a little spray tan because like Celebrity Big Brother
too, I had no tan. Last week I had no tan. I gotta
just tan a little bit. And that Celebrity Big Brother
one is horrendous
that's such a scary photo and you're like they're using that one can we use one to one
scare me like please that's why I had to intervene I was like oh no no no because
for us we have like they have a rule where they don't use like photographers photos because it's
like a whole clearance issue but I'm like this one I have the direct the direct plug like let
me clear this it is interesting so I use like this family photographer who I don't think, like, she doesn't really do, like, fashion, high fashion.
She does, like, family photos.
And she got so many emails from publications asking to clear it, which is, like, so funny because I thought Instagram is, like, public domain.
You can just use Instagram photos.
There's all these, like, rules and stipulations.
Like, a lot of people, especially with, like, photographers, like, a lot of outlets will get sued if they use, like, wedding photos specifically.
That happens all the time.
Really?
Yeah.
Because like Paris Hilton, for example, will post her wedding photos that a photographer, you know, took her photos.
But say if like Us Weekly just took them and post them and like put them in a video or something or put them in an article, they could get sued for it.
Or even like reposting it.
No way.
Reposting it.
Yeah.
Without permission.
Can I say wedding photographers are kind of possessive of these photos.
They were said that we didn't even own the rights of the photos, even though we paid
$30,000 for one day of photos.
They're like, you don't own these pictures.
Basically we asked, can we get one picture for Instagram?
They're like, well, that's extra.
Like you just hire us to take the photos.
You don't own the photos.
We can't just give you photos.
I'm like, I paid $30,000 for you to just take pictures and not give us photos.
Oh my God.
And then they were like,
and every time we post a photo,
every time, like we're a publication,
you have to credit us in a certain way
and you have to do a certain thing.
And we were like, no, we own the photos.
We paid you to.
That's why we paid you to, yeah.
This is the day after the wedding
and we're going back and forth with them
in emails and texts and phone calls.
And she was so upset.
And we were like.
Because we asked them specifically, like when can we have one like the next day?
Like, we want to post right away.
And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then their excuse was like, well, with celebrities, we don't, what do they say?
We don't let you have the photos.
Yeah.
And I was like, wait, why are we singled out?
Like, we're the same contract, same people.
We paid you.
We own the photos.
That's the, you know, it's like you hire catering and you can't eat the food.
Tea.
Yeah. It was wild because it already was out of our budget. Like we booked this,
what the, what anyways, you guys know this wedding was ever, that was probably like at the beginning, a third of our budget. And I was like, it's like, okay, well,
there'll be good photos, whatever. Then we tried to order a wedding album and it took like two
years. And eventually I was like, can you cancel it? He's like, no, next month, next month. And I
was just like, no, it's been two years since the wedding. Like need this album anyways we never did get a wedding album which is like so sad our
anniversary is coming up and we have no wedding album and the wedding album was like six thousand
dollars I was like what it's crazy you know it's one thing if we paid six hundred dollars but for
six thousand you need to come through so for thirty thousand dollars you didn't get one print
you didn't get a photo album you got nothing in fact they weren't even gonna let us they were
literally holding the photo hostage until like Moses had to like
call them. Like it was on our brunch the next day and just. Yeah. Cause if I call you, you're in
trouble. I called and I was just like, look, this is the deal right now. And he was like, okay,
okay. I'll release the photos immediately. Yeah. It was very weird. It was weird. They were nice.
The photos are beautiful, but I think in general, the wedding industry is kind of a scam. Like they kind of just scam you.
Yeah.
And I say scam lightly.
Okay.
Don't sue me.
It's not saying like scam, but it's just overpriced.
Finding little loopholes to like overcharge and like get as much as they need.
Yeah.
Even without the, they just overcharge.
Yeah.
There's no, and then there's this emotional blackmail.
They were trying to get us to have like a $50,000 iceberg like behind us as we were getting
married.
Like, cause I wanted Winter Wonderland, which I was not giving Winter Wonderland.
I was giving very much press conference, like bright lights, whatever.
But thanks to our guests, they were in all white, which was great.
So I made it Winter Wonderland.
But she was trying to get us this iceberg, which I put in like a waterfall or something behind us.
She's like, here's a block of ice for $50,000.
It was – anyways, I don't like to even talk about it.
It really makes me upset.
Like I feel like it summons bad energy. So we're moving on from that. But yeah, shout out to everyone who cared about
us being pregnant. It's so bizarre. Like I know like our people will, the people who watched,
I knew you guys would be excited, but it's always so, it's so crazy. I don't know. Cause I know you
can like pay for PR and again, not knocking it. Like I know people pay for PR to be out there.
I think that's how like people get on like even the Tonight Show. I mean, obviously if you're a
big celebrity, but I see people like randomly like with podcasts go on Jimmy Fallon. I'm like, how did they get
that? And they're like, oh, they have a PR company, which maybe we should do so I can get on Jimmy
Fallon. I don't know. But just the fact that I've never paid for it, I was just like, wow,
this is so cool. And even all these magazines, again, I don't know where this came from,
but I get a magazine offer, like big ones. Next week is a big one. They had like,
I won't say who's on the cover, but like A-list people on the cover. And I'm just like, oh my
God, this is so random. I don't know where my name got on the list all of a sudden. Yeah.
I'm only going to go up to the polyester level now because they did stylist, they did hair and
makeup. They did crafty. Crafty too. Oh my God. Crafty was everything. The sets were beautiful.
The hair and makeup. I got to keep some of the outfits. It was great. It was all designer. I've
never been styled for a magazine shoot. So it was really fun. Check it out. It was really cool. Uh, Jordan Firstman, he's an Instagram,
like kind of Instagram famous. He has like a movie out with Robert Pattinson. I think,
I think that that was my Robert Pattinson connection earlier. Yeah. He did like an
interview with him too. Um, and they were like in a, Robert Pattinson produced a movie or something.
I don't know. But Jordan was really cool. He came to our house, interviewed us, interviewed me.
And, um, yeah, he was like a fan too, which I'm always just like, this is so bizarre.
Like, I don't know.
You just never know.
I've seen him on so many things.
He does like, he does like comedy skits.
I don't know how to describe it.
He's really funny.
He's really great.
And he's like in movies now and stuff like that.
But he came to my house and did an interview and had a lot of truffle fries before the
interview.
And I kept burping so much and I hate burps.
I kept going, I kept covering my mouth with my shirt.
I'm like, and they're truffle fries too.
So I'm just like, I'm so sorry.
He was so nice. I'm like, I'm so sorry. He was so nice.
I'm like, I'm so sorry.
I just, I don't know.
We just got him from Capitol Grill and I just had all this truffle fry in me.
And yeah, it was a really great day.
It was a good experience.
I love being a cover girl.
So if you want to book me for your magazine, it's actually so fun.
That shoot, I don't know why I was like kind of, oh, I was dreading it because usually
we shoot here, but this was like in Hollywood.
And so I was kind of like dreading it because it was just far and Moses wasn't going to
come with me because he was going to stay home with Malibu because just, you know, just to be
with her. So my mom came with me and I was like, oh man, it's going to be a long day. I don't have
Moses with me. And it ended up being like the best shoot ever. They treated me like I was a,
there was like 35 people on the crew and they treated me like as an A-list celebrity. The
stylist was a Katy Perry stylist and she was like so nice. And they just had thousands, I mean,
hundreds of clothes, like maybe 50 pairs of shoes, all
destroyed. It was, I felt like a celebrity. I felt like such a celebrity. It was, it's, it's,
it was very cool. I'm always honored to do a magazine shoot. So I have another one coming up.
I just keep saying yes. I try to keep it to like one a month, you know, not to like over.
Over such yourself. Yeah. Well, they asked me, they're like, do you have any kind of,
actually, and so each month I've had something come out. So I'm like, actually I have nothing
for November, but now I have one coming for actually. And so each month I've had something come out. So I'm like, actually, I have nothing for Nova.
But now I have one coming for December.
It's a holiday shoot we're doing next week for a magazine.
Oh my God.
Yeah, so cover girl.
Trishmas.
Next, I'll be GQ man of the year.
That's next year, 2024.
This is iconic.
I mean, someone said this is very Trish coded and I agree.
This is very like emo Trish.
Why do you think she's holding a bag of Cheetos?
I honestly would love to know the art direction of the shoe.
Because I don't really think Cheetos when I think Kim Kardashian.
No, do you think it's sponsored?
Because it could have been any snack on there.
Maybe it's like the Sexy Jack and People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive.
They have Jack in the Box. So maybe Cheetos got in there.
It has to be because no one thinks of Cheetos and Kim Kardashian.
It's like they specifically have it so you see the puffs.
You see the logo in there.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
And what did we do last night?
We went and bought two bags of Cheeto puffs. Right after we got this at Barnes & Noble, we went. Moses see the logo in there. Yeah. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And what did we do last night? We went and bought two bags of Cheeto
puffs. Right after we got this at Barnes & Noble,
we went. Moses got two bags of it,
and it did look really good. I was like, that looks really good.
But I was like, they must have sponsored, which is
kind of weird. Kim Kardashian and GQ being
sponsored by Cheetos. Well, with the right price.
That's true. With the right amount of money.
Especially Kim. Yeah. How much is she getting
paid to eat that Cheeto? I would do it for free.
But she has a cool picture.
She's very – I like the masculine vibes that they did on here.
I just also am kind of confused, Gorge.
Kind of confused why – like I get it.
Like I get it before people are like, oh my god, you're so dumb.
GQ man of the year.
Like okay, she's the most powerful.
She's more powerful than a man.
She's more business savvy than a man.
But why couldn't it just be GQ person of the year?
Because as far as I know, she doesn't identify as male.
Yeah.
Like if it was sexiest man alive and they put a woman in there, then it should just be like sexiest person alive.
Yeah. And I feel like if there's, I don't know if there's a woman of the year award,
but it's like woman of the year and it goes to like Pedro Pascal or something like that. You're
kind of like, okay, well he's not a woman. So it's taking away from the women. Yeah. I get the idea
behind it. I just think it's a little, a little weird. They should put someone like me on the
cover because I have identified as he-him. I do identify
as he-him. I love he-him too. Not that
anyone would look at me as he-him, but I do love
it when I go into my masculine
energy. I like to be he-him.
You know what I mean? 2024
definitely. We have to get you on the
man of the year list. I would love to be because who else was on
there? Jacob Lordy, Travis Scott. Who are they?
You know what I mean? I could be
up there. I love it. I love that who are they? You know what I mean? I could be up there.
I love it. I love that each week we just have a magazine. I love magazines. I'm telling you,
I love going to the store and picking this up so excitingly every Sunday night. I shouldn't say this because last night was like a meet and greet at Barnes & Noble. Every Sunday night we go to
Barnes & Noble near us. And last night was an actual meet and greet. I think there was like
20 teenagers and you could feel it when you walk in. I feel it. It's like, oh no. And so I like try to go into the corner. I was like, not that I don't mind it, but it's just like, you know,
I was sweating. We just came from a walk and I was like, oh my gosh. Okay. And so, and once they
come up, it's fine. I'm happy to do it. But once one person comes up, then the whole Barnes and
Noble cafe comes up. They were all really nice. But I was like, why are there so many teenagers
here on a Sunday night? Now they're really, we'll have to change our day. Love meeting them. But
especially my town's small. They're always very nice, actually. They're actually
very nice. And then they're like trying to say hi to Malibu. And Malibu kind of does this new
thing now where she's shy. She like freezes. She just like, like pretends like to not see anybody.
And it is weird. It's weird. Even though she's only 15, 14 months, like it is kind of weird.
She kind of already knows like when people are coming up, she's very like, what is happening?
Which is like weird because she's like so little, but she kind of sees it and kind of doesn't know
what's happening. She understands. And it's so like so little, but she kind of sees it and kind of doesn't know what's happening.
She understands.
And it's so interesting for her, you know, just to see because she feels like everyone
in the world is our friend.
Oh, yeah.
She waves at everyone.
She waves at everyone, says hi to everyone.
And everyone says hi, always says hi to us.
So she feels like that's normal.
You know, what I found out, though, is Moses doesn't take pictures with people when he's
by himself.
Really?
Isn't that interesting?
I was like, wait, why?
I like didn't, I didn't know why, but your answer was interesting.
If I'm by myself, people won't take a picture.
And I'm like, no, because I don't want the picture out there of me with a girl.
Oh, that's smart.
Or like young girls too.
It immediately spins off as something, right?
That it's not by people that are trying to troll us.
That's smart.
And then when I'm with Malibu, obviously not because it's Malibu. I don't want her to be in pictures.
Yeah. Well, I think a really like key thing to that is like in general, I know like a lot of
people put like a lot of guys put their hands up in pictures. Like they, you know, they'll be like
this. So they're not like touching the person. Cause I know there's been incidents where like
girls will say, oh, he touched my butt or whatever. So I think now guys are, I think everybody in
general, I actually probably should too, is like kind of have your hands behind your back. Cause
you just never know people, their comfortability, they could turn around and do say it made them
uncomfortable or something. So it is interesting. I didn't even think about that. James Charles
should pick up that strategy. What is he? Is he, is he, I imagine he's probably like,
I know some people are very like, and look, it's cute. Cause like, honestly, like you know i've seen matthew lillard at like comic-con do like the prom poses with
people and it's like i love those kind of photos too when you're a celebrity when a celebrity does
that was kind of like extra poses like it is you do feel so special but you just you know you get
those one people that just like turn it around 10 years later and be like this made me uncomfortable
and i was only this and whatever and like like, fine. But yeah, it's interesting. I thought that was. Yeah. If somebody asked, I would say like,
if Trisha is here, we'll take a picture together,
but not without her.
The weirdest thing though, is like, it's so funny.
Sometimes people will be like,
can I take a picture with you?
Sometimes they ask for a picture with both of us,
but sometimes they'll be like,
can I take a picture with you?
I say, yes.
Like Moses, you can be in it too.
So it's like one of those weird things where it's like,
do you want him in it?
Because he doesn't need to,
he doesn't like want to be in this photo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people are always a little funny and awkward.
I just stick my head in. Yeah, it's yeah. I never do with Malibu just because I don't want her to
feel like she's at a meet and greet. You know what I mean? I really don't mind, but I usually,
it is a weird thing. It's just weird. We were talking about that the other day. It's kind of
weird. Like I always envisioned myself to be famous, but I never thought of like, like your
baby being famous. You know what I mean? And I don't like, and I like it because it's all like it's it's nice people are excited about her but it does feel
a little weird sometimes like I'd never put her in like photos because I'm like I don't know I
don't want to feel like she's at a meet and greet I think especially with her whole like birth story
too like that definitely added to it with like the oh my gosh already it's happening everyone's like
king charles counter days I'm like no it's like I I can't the amount of like TikToks and tweets I see about that, I was like, oh my
God, how did this become a thing?
How did we become associated with the royal family?
I have no idea, but it's so bizarre.
Well, we got to do a DNA test.
You must have royal blood in you.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it could be.
I mean, honestly, not even joking, I do feel like Malibu could be the reincarnation of
the queen because she is so, what was she doing the other day where she's like royalty?
Oh, she had that big shirt. Oh my God. We have to send you this video to put it as the b-roll she had one of Moses's shirt on and it's like long and it's like
this cape and she is just she has her sunglasses on and she's just running around the bedroom
just like with her cape and just like acting like she's the queen and she's just like waving
and also I was like where did this come from and she was just living her best life. It was so weird.
She'll dress herself like, we were in her room and she points to something.
I'm already pointing to it.
She wanted her glasses.
She has like this fancy sunglasses.
Oh my God.
She puts them on and she holds her blankie.
Yeah.
And it's like a gown.
And she just walks around with a blankie and I carry it so it's not on the floor.
So basically she's walking around with a blankie and I'm like holding the royal.
You go with her train.
Yeah, he goes with the train.
I'll send you that one in the bathroom.
And then we walk all the way to see her.
She waves to everybody, everywhere we're at.
She's the me and Greer, everywhere we go.
It's like, where would she have picked that up if she's not having a little bit of like
royalty in her?
No, I definitely think she does.
There are some times where, and it's like, she's so like old soul where you're just like,
where did she get this from?
It's so bizarre.
She commends everyone.
Yeah.
My mom was here. Her dad was here. And they'll pick her up and then immediately she points.
I love when she does that.
Oh yeah, she does to you. Over there, over there.
She knows what she wants to eat. She wants to see what's in there.
Oh, I love that.
It's wild. No, it's actually crazy. I don't know. I never thought I'd be that parent,
but I'm like, no, I think my daughter's actually like royalty or something.
What would your snack be if you were on the cover of GQ Man of the Year?
Ooh, that's a good question.
My tried and true is always Cheez-Its.
I have a big box of Cheez-Its.
We should go get those at halftime.
I love Cheez-Its.
I do too.
It's my pregnancy snack at the moment.
So good.
I have like a little in the morning too.
I'm like, what's a little morning snack?
I'm like, let me just have a couple of Cheez-Its.
Me too.
I wanted to get some Ziploc baggies so I could bring them on the go because I have a huge box upstairs where I need a little.
Cheez-Its are good. Although I did also, once again, your impact. Me too. I wanted to get some Ziploc baggies so I could bring them on the go because I have a huge box upstairs where I need a little zip.
Cheez-Its are good.
Although I did also, once again, your impact.
I was at Trader Joe's and I saw the sheet cake, the TikTok sheet cake that you tried.
And that sheet cake was good.
It's very sweet, but it's very good. It's so sweet.
It's like, it's so good.
Julia Fox commented on the TikTok and she used to eat it every day for like two months
and now she's like sick of it.
Trisha knows her snacks.
Food.
I know.
I wish – I need my own snack, right?
I call the D'Amelios and see who their PR people are.
Or Pokeman.
Yeah, which we ordered those cookies and they're still not here.
Pokeman.
I ordered them right after we talked about them because I wanted to do a cute little
thing for our Patreon, which you guys, we start our Patreon next week in December.
So if you guys want to join Patreon or just look at the tiers, give it a check out.
We're going to start posting next week.
It's patreon.com slash just Trish.
And it's all ages.
My last Patreon was over 18.
This is all ages.
We have a bunch of fun tiers.
Tears?
Is that how you say it?
Tears?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That sounded weird the way I said it.
Fun tiers.
There's signed headshots available on one.
There's a producer tier where you can give input to the show, get a little name in the
credits.
Oh, and get these cards.
Some people, did someone ask?
Did someone ask about these?
Someone asked.
People were wondering if you,
if we're like print, you know,
and then glue the print.
No, it's all handwritten.
Which by the way,
Marilyn Monroe handwritten notes
goes for like $200,000.
So when I'm dead,
you guys can all have one of these
for your producer level tier.
I don't know.
Like we'll send you one of these cards.
Yeah, people want them. I should be nicer the way I do this. Now that we know Moses has been saving every card, you guys, every card, Moses, like I saved every single one. I was like, Oh,
why? Cause then we have to like throw them away, whatever. But we have interview ones. We have all
that. I should give them to the people I interviewed. Cause I know when Tana was here,
she wanted to like see, cause I didn't even look at my card. She goes, Oh my God, did you prepare
all this stuff? Cause I prepare, but we have a lot of interview cards. So we have so many cards.
And you don't know what card you're going to get. You know, you might get the Tana card,
maybe a Brooke card. Wow. Collectibles.
Oh God, we have all the Colleen cards. That's like, ah, that's like bad luck. When you open
a fortune cookie, there's no fortune in there. Oh my God. We need like a jump scare when you
say the name. I'm like, I got scared for a minute. and there's no fortune in there. Oh, my God. We need like a jump scare when you say the name.
I'm like, I got scared for a minute.
I'm like, oh, no.
I got triggered.
Okay.
Yeah.
I feel like the Cheeto bag is cute.
Honestly, I do love a chips.
I'm into jalapeno chips lately.
But I guess for aesthetics, everyone recognizes a Cheeto bag.
Yeah.
I mean, the excuse to like lick your finger after the Cheeto dust.
It's also Trish coated.
That's very true.
I'm a very finger licker.
You know what I mean?
I think in general, I'm on this theory that Kim Kardashian watches my stuff and copies me.
Call me crazy.
Call me DeLulu.
Because the Five Nights at Freddy's sound I've been doing last week.
Don't tell me.
Yeah.
You said it's been out since Halloween, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Literally like four days ago, five days ago, Kim and North can't wait to meet you to join the animals.
And that's like such an old sound that no one uses.
I was like, this has been my thing.
To add to the like conspiracy theory, this is all in my head.
Me too, allegedly.
So my cousin goes to the same school as North and her friends have asked her like to get
like a little cameo video or like autograph.
Oh.
So I think around the school, I think you're probably the talk of the school.
Really?
Okay.
Well, North, you're Nick.
Girl, call me.
I'll just do it.
I'll do a cameo.
I'll come in person.
I'll be the ice spice.
They had ice spice come to their house.
I got to be a celebrity kid like that where you could just call ice spice to come over
and like hang out with your kids.
Like that's honestly, I'm here for the Nepo babies because it's like such power.
Be like, I would like the weekend to come sing at my birthday party and like done.
You know what I mean?
Like that's – I would do it though.
You know, I'm one of those people too.
Like Northie, you want to do a little TikTok?
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Let's do a collab.
That's so cool.
You can get a cameo at cameo.com.
I did literally – I think I did 12 this morning.
I've done so many cameos.
I feel a little like dizzy because I was doing a song.
Someone asked to be in the tavern.
So I go in the tavern. Those are actually very easy to do those kids dizzy because I was doing a song. Someone asked to be in the tavern, so I go in the tavern. Those are
actually very easy to do those kids.
18th birthday, someone wanted a drink in the tavern,
so it's great. Yeah, you know, it's hustle season. It's
the holidays. This is my time to hustle, hustle,
hustle. The merch isn't coming off to the holidays,
so save your money for that because, I don't know,
China is in delay. Something.
I can't give up. Save your Christmas cash.
Save, yes. Save the Christmas cash.
I'm here for the Kardashians. I watched them last week. They're good. I don't give up. Save your Christmas cash. Save, yes. Save the Christmas cash. I'm here for the Kardashians.
I watched them last week.
They're good.
I don't know.
I like them.
I guess we're on the Tristan train.
I guess everyone's going to like Tristan too.
I don't know.
I'm so, no, I said I wasn't going to watch them.
And then I was like, here, I'm watching them.
Pink Friday to the perfume.
I went to Northridge to get this.
I gagged English.
Because I, so I live like 10 minutes from there.
And I was going to go get it at the JCPenney. I think that's the only JCPenney around over there. Yeah. And then
I saw your TikTok and I was like, Oh, well she got it. Yes. Okay. So I went online cause I was
going to order it. It was sold out Pop Crave. And by the way, Pop Crave tweeted about this and then
like literally tweeted like Trisha Paytas got this. I was like, this is a troll at this point.
In Northridge. I love that they supposed to buy it. That's where he got it. I went online and it
was sold out.
And then I'd never done this where you can like see where it's in stock.
And there was literally the only one in the area was Northridge.
I'm like, well, that's not that far.
So I drove there.
That mall.
But you're like a bougie.
Like you say 10 minutes, but you're like 10 minutes bougie.
Well, I used to live literally next door in my gym.
I go to that gym that's like in the mall sometimes.
No way.
Yeah.
I've never been there.
I was debating telling you this or not.
Oh no.
Someone died there.
I'm still debating.
On a light?
Well, there was a shooting incident
on Black Friday at that mall.
I felt it.
I felt the vibes.
It's like, where?
In the mall?
Yeah, in the mall.
Why did no one stop it?
On the yard house side.
Okay, I felt it.
I felt it. I felt it.
And I don't like to judge because the area itself is like kind of nice.
I went to a Jamba Juice like right around the corner and it was like kind of nice.
But you kind of have a feeling.
And I really don't judge as much anymore.
Like if it, you know, it's not a great area or whatever like that.
But I don't know, something about it.
I was running for my life through the parking garage.
You just got a vibe.
And I was, I don't know, it was a lot.
I was, then I went to pull over to film it. Literally right by the mall. There's like, I don't know, like a little like
industrial place and guy like knocked on my window. I don't know. I don't know. It was very
scary. I like bolted real quick. Cause you know, I'm so fast with it, but like just came out of
nowhere at the side of my window. So it is a little scary. I went to school over there.
Oh, really? I didn't know. Now you're kind of by the bougie mall. Cause there's,
that's what I told him. I'm like, Oh, it're kind of by the bougie mall. Because there's – that's what I told him.
I'm like, oh, it's kind of by the fancy mall where we – and so I was like, well, close.
It can't be that bad.
It was a little scary, but they did have the Nicki Minaj perfume.
It has a little seedy over there.
But I mean, that's the good thing, though, is they have –
They have Nicki Minaj.
No one was buying it.
They usually have things in stock over there.
They definitely did.
They definitely had things in stock.
It definitely was so packed.
Like 100 people in the returns line.
100 people. Like not even – I wanted to film. I don't want to film people. It was crazy. They definitely had things in stock. It definitely was so packed. Like 100 people in the returns line. 100 people.
Like not even – I wanted to film.
I don't want to film people.
It was crazy.
I don't know.
I went because I saw it was like trending and Nikki was tweeting people.
I think we're one step closer to getting Nikki on the podcast with all of this.
She has to see, right?
That's what I'm thinking.
I'm going to contact – I'm just going to email him.
Be like, hey, want to come on?
Well, I was waiting to get Zach's input.
Oh, right.
To ask Zach.
Well, I'm going on Zach's thing this week.
So I'll ask him.
I'll be like, how do we craft a letter?
Tell him why our little letter.
Maybe.
Like a little referral.
Like a little, here.
I don't know if he's had Nikki on his podcast.
He's like so close to Ariana, who is so close with Nikki.
Oh, she is?
Are they that close?
Yeah, they're like BFFs.
Really?
Love Ariana on the podcast.
But I really think Nikki's a dream guest.
Ice Spice is a dream guest.
Wait, I had another dream guest.
Tim Allen's a dream guest. Yeah. But wait, there's one more. The Weeknd. Who else? Jacob Elordi's's a dream guest. I spice his dream guest. Um, we had another dream guest. Tim Allen's a dream guest.
Um,
but wait,
there's one more at the weekend.
Who else?
Jacob already is a new dream guest.
Oh really?
Jacob already is a new dream guest.
Um,
shout out to PETA bread on Tik TOK.
It's at P I D a bread.
Um,
she had a,
like a list of people that should be on just trash.
Cause here's who I think should be on just trash.
Did you see this?
Oh,
gypsy Rose.
She had as the first one.
Oh,
of course.
I would love gypsy Rose. She comes out of prison December 28th. There's been people who live next to the prison she's in. see this? No. Oh, Gypsy Rose. She had as the first one. Oh, of course. I would love Gypsy Rose.
She comes out of prison December 28th.
There's been people who live next to the prison she's in and they're like, oh, I'll go.
Like, can I get the-
Please.
Wait, actually.
Yeah.
They're like, and they even offered to give the $500 referral fee to Gypsy.
They're like, I'll give it to Gypsy, the $500 referral fee.
I'll get her on your podcast.
I'm like, if you know Gypsy Rose, I would love to.
I've seen this more and more, which is something I never thought of before the internet started
saying Gypsy Rose on the podcast.
But I'm like, yeah, I should be the one to interview her when she comes out of prison.
I think so too.
I feel like I'm definitely on her side.
I definitely understand empathy, sympathy.
She's fierce and I would love to interview Gypsy Rose.
But one of the ones she had on there was Jacob Lordy.
But she's like, Jacob Lordy should go on as Elvis.
Like I'd interview him as Elvis.
And I'm like, yes.
I love that idea so much.
So let's make that happen.
That would be so great. Because did you watch it? Did you see Priscilla? No, not yet.
I'm sure it's streaming. Not to pivot, but I did see Thanksgiving.
Oh, I haven't even seen it yet. Is it good? It was really good. Yeah. It was really good. It
was fun. Was Addison slaying? Addison? Okay. I get that. No, no, it's good. I just get that
people were like skeptical of her. And when she was on, he's all that. I get that. No, no. Addison's good. I just get that people were, like, skeptical of her when she was on He's All That.
I think her acting has improved a lot since.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know if she's been taking classes, but her comedic timing, even when she's not,
like, the main character in the scene, she's still, like, giving.
She steals it.
She's still in it.
Like, her eyes are in it.
Like, she's still acting, even if she's not, like, the one speaking.
That's a tractor.
If she's just, like, in the side.
No, it's crazy that I haven't seen it. My friend Jeff actually invited me to the premiere two hours before the premiere. He like lands in LA as if I don't have like kids, you know, or,
you know, a kid and a baby on the way. And he's just like, Oh, can you come in like two hours?
I'm like, I have to glam, like I have to do all this stuff. And I really debated on it. And then
can I get myself together? But I was like, no, I am like, I need to glam. Like if you had told
me yesterday, but he, I did get invited to the premiere. He didn't invite me to go, and then he didn't know if it
was going to be a big premiere. It was at Quentin Tarantino's theater. Like, if you guys know
anything about me, I started my whole social media as Quentin Tarantino and Grindhouse,
which is what the trailer originally appeared in, Grindhouse Barbie, and I basically stalked,
like, everybody, Quentin Tarantino, Eli Roth, all these people, and that's how I met Jeff,
because Jeff was, like, a top friend on, like, Eli's, this was 2007 when Thanksgiving came out,
the original trailer, and I, like, stalked him, top friend on like Eli's. This was 2007 when Thanksgiving came out, the original trailer.
And I like stalked him, found him on the friend list.
And then we became like best friends.
I'm talking inseparable.
We were together like all the time from like 18 to like, I don't know, probably when I got married.
You know, whatever.
But he's at my wedding.
I love him so much.
And they've been doing this movie.
I mean, when was that?
2007 was how long ago?
Like 15 years ago?
No.
Is it 15 years?
Yeah, 15 years.
Yeah.
And it's just so crazy
because I was like my whole thing online was Grindhouse, Barbie, Thanksgiving. If you type
in Trisha Paytas Thanksgiving, like me and my neighbor Superman did the Thanksgiving trailer.
Like we reenacted it. Like I was just such a big super fan of Thanksgiving. So I'm a little
disappointed. I'm not going to lie. I'm a little salty because they easily could have put me in.
Eli Roth knows that I love Thanksgiving. Like he knows I was obsessed. I dedicated my whole MySpace page to Thanksgiving, the trailer. So felt a little
slighted because, and I usually don't feel that way. You know, I joke, be like a white lotus three
and can't cast me because I'm pregnant. They still could if they want to reach out. But in general,
I'm just like, gosh, this was like the one thing they knew. Fun fact, me and Jeff have a book on
Amazon together. The writer of Thanksgiving and I, we wrote a book together called Trisha's 31
Nights of Frights. And when I say we, it's mostly Jeff because he's a
horror film and I was like, we should write this book together.
And it was basically us watching horror films
and writing reviews on it. And so I used to
watch, I was in a horror film era for a minute where
I used to watch my Bloody Valentine and there was a Mother's Day
horror film and all these horror films because
I was a pick me and I was just trying to fit in with
Eli and Jeff.
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If I asked for a horror movie, it would be you, Addison Rae, and Sidney Sweeney.
I think. Would I be their mother? Because I would would be you, Addison Rae, and Sidney Sweeney, I think.
Would I be their mother?
Because I would do it in a heartbeat.
Like maybe a sister vibe.
You and Sidney Sweeney as sisters?
Ooh, that would be everything.
I don't think, I think too old.
How old is she?
No, she's probably,
she's in her mid-20s.
Yeah, give me like an older sister
that raised them or something,
you know what I mean?
That would be amazing.
I would love,
one day I'll be in a horror movie.
It'll probably be like Wes Craven. Is he alive or he's dead?
Okay, not Wes Craven. Who's another?
I don't know. Okay, give me another horror film.
I'm going to be like, sorry Eli Roth, this horror film.
What's his name? Blumhouse. Jason Blum.
What did he direct? I don't know. He does all, he does like
Megan, The Purge. He does like all those.
Five Nights at Freddy's. Oh.
Iconic. I saw Five Nights at Freddy's
again last week. It was the last day. It was in theaters
and I was like, I'm going to go.
I went with my mom and my sister.
It's just hard to still see movies because it's like I either go with my mom and sister
and I leave Moses behind or I go with my Moses and then we leave Malibu behind.
It's just – it's very – I love seeing movies.
We've been going a lot recently.
Maybe I'll have to go see Thanksgiving because obviously.
But – oh, Jason Blum?
Yeah.
We'll say – yeah, Jason Blum.
God, I really wish I would have gone to the premiere.
I felt – I thought that would have been such a flex for the podcast, too, to be like, look at me at the Thanksgiving premiere.
Oh, yeah.
The Getty Images.
You would have new Getty Images.
Right.
You know, I would have gotten on that red carpet somehow.
I don't care if I'm not in the movie.
You know, people just stand there and they're like, here I am, too, you know?
I love it.
Yeah.
Dang, I need to go see it.
And Patrick Dempsey is kind of daddy.
He's kind of hot.
Yeah, sexiest man alive.
Yeah.
I mean, kind of by default.
True.
Because of those writers' strike. He was a lovely hot. Yeah, sexiest man alive. Yeah. I mean, kind of by default. True. Because of those writers, Drake.
He was a lovely runner-up, I guess.
After Drake.
When we went to Barnes & Noble, they had this huge Pedro Pascal magazine.
It was just like – it just was like a Pedro magazine.
It was like this big.
There was a Taylor Swift one too.
So I was like, well, I guess that's what he did instead of the sexiest man alive.
Oh, I love that for – okay, Thanksgiving.
Go see Thanksgiving.
I love that.
That's so cool.
I hope it made money.
I'm sure it did.
Yeah, I think especially because it was like a low budget, like smaller movie.
Yeah. And then – and I think it did pretty – it was money. I'm sure it did. Yeah, I think especially because it was like a low budget, like smaller movie.
And then, and I think it did pretty, it was in like the top five.
So.
Wow. Yeah.
I heard they were already doing a sequel.
So I guess.
Oh, fun.
Yeah.
I think it was picked up.
There was a little bit of a cliffhanger at the end.
Oh, I love that.
Maybe the second one.
The sequel, yes.
Fingers crossed.
If I can't get in my best friend's movie, I don't think I'm going to get in any movie.
How was Black Friday?
I kind of went through a whole thing because there were some people who said like, you know,
Oscar, maybe you shouldn't support Black Friday because then people can't be with their families.
And I was like, you know what? Maybe that's tea. Because like back in my day working retail,
like we opened up like when I was at Target, we'd open up on Thanksgiving Day at 6 p.m. And I
remember hating it. I'd go from Target and then I went straight from Target Urban Outfitters and
then back to Target on Friday. Oh. For Black Friday.
And that was a mess.
So I was like, you know what?
Let me not support it.
So then I just did online shopping.
But the deal is not as good.
Yeah.
I heard it's a scam anyways, Black Friday.
Did you see the signs where it's like the same price?
Yes, that viral TikTok.
Yeah.
There's a viral TikTok of a couple at Target and they pulled back the Black Friday sign
and it was just a regular sale sign.
The same amount off.
It was like $40 cheaper for a TV, but they just add like a Black Friday
logo and some snowflakes to try to trick us.
Total scam.
Because back in the day, we watched clips of like 97, 2004, where you could get literal
TVs for like 50 bucks.
Like huge TVs that were like $3,000, $50.
We saw Victoria's Secret one where they open up the gates and people just go running in.
Because I said back in the day, Victoria's Secret, you would have crazy deals.
You get free gifts with everything.
And now it's like, eh.
But the deals online were pretty good.
Online is better, I think.
And it's like, I don't trust the big, like the Targets and those kind of stores
because the discounts are so minimal.
It's like, well, what the hell?
This isn't hardly a sale.
Yeah.
It's like their everyday sales.
Yeah.
But the store, like the smaller, like clothes stores, which is like 40% off everything.
I'm like, okay, well, now we're speaking.
Now we're talking.
Michael's online, I think, had a good one. I was, I'm so scared. I ordered a bunch of Christmas decorations and they're going to come in and I just hear Moses
being like, what's with all these boxes? And there was a lot of boxes this past weekend,
but a lot of it was PR. I have to show him like, look, this is a free diaper bag. This is a free
this because like, I feel like he thinks I ordered these things. So I always have to tell him.
We couldn't open the gate. There's so many boxes.
And he gets so frustrated. He has to go down this hill and he's like, oh, I got to get all these boxes.
Yeah, I just tell he's angry when he comes back in.
First of all, I never talk like that.
When he came back in, you're like, there were so many boxes.
I just tell you're frustrated.
I'm like, there's a lot of boxes.
No, no, you have a little frustration.
He's very patient, but I know when there's lots of boxes.
And I'm just dreading this week because we're doing our Christmas photo shoot and our anniversary
photo shoot.
So I had to order some white Christmas trees. I had to order the pink Christmas tree.
I had to order some garland. Like there's a lot, there's some big bulbs coming. I'm just like,
oh my God, there's gonna be a lot of big boxes. And I just can hear Moses already. So this is my
warning. And I ordered a lot of towels because we need a towel. So I have like a lot of big
just towels. And I just, so I told him like, you can open everything. I'm not sneaking anything in
because sometimes I like to sneak a person. I'm like, I'm not sneaking anything in. This is literally all Christmas stuff. So I'm already hearing, I'm already going to hear it. I'm like, you can open everything. I'm not sneaking anything in. Because sometimes I like to sneak a person. I'm like, I'm not sneaking anything in. This is literally all Christmas stuff.
So I'm already hearing.
I'm already going to hear it.
I'm just like, ugh.
So yeah.
But they were on sale.
That's where I was going with this.
Like the garland.
Everything was like 50% off.
Like it was crazy.
These white Christmas trees from Michael's would have been like $1,000.
And I got them for like $400.
Like they were good deals, I will say.
So I didn't order like, yeah, tomorrow's our Christmas
decorating day
because we got to do
our photo shoots.
It's just like,
it's a whole thing.
We did a Skims inspired Christmas.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I didn't know what to dress
people as this year.
So I was like,
well,
we'll just do the Brittany Mahomes.
I think she did the little flannel
so that's what we're doing.
Just make it cozy
because I'm also pregnant
and even though like
we were just saying this,
I'm like,
you're like,
I was feeling large today.
I was like,
I was feeling large today.
You're like,
you're pregnant.
I'm like,
yeah,
but you're not really supposed
to like feel anything or eat differently until like nine months. I already have my muumus on. This feels like pajamas. I thought we should you're like – I was feeling large today. I was like, I was feeling large today. You're like, you're pregnant. I'm like, yeah, but you're not really supposed to like feel anything or eat differently
until like nine months.
I already have my muumuu's on.
This feels like pajamas.
I thought we should do maybe like a pajama day.
Oh, that would be cute.
Yeah.
We'll have to do one.
Every day is a pajama day, honestly.
I think next week we'll do the FNAF.
Hopefully my stuff comes because I got my house –
Oh, I'm so excited for FNAF.
Did you get yours?
No, no.
You have to order it.
But it's like Amazon Prime, so I'm not like sweating it.
Okay, sponsored.
Sponsored by Amazon Prime.
Can you imagine?
I – oh, we should watch FNAF last night.
We have to watch it when Malibu goes to bed early and she doesn't bed.
Why didn't we do that?
With their bolognese, we could have had it.
That would have been so good.
That movie, Matthew Lillard is such a dream guest.
I know I said that before.
But if you guys know Matthew Lillard, please.
Oh, God, he's such a dream guest.
He's so good.
I love Matthew Lillard.
Especially in that movie, too.
Like, just the ending of it, so good.
And I just love that movie because like I was telling
Moses,
the animatronics,
they really kind of only
unalive the bad people.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
They really come around
at the end.
They really do come around.
The power of drawing
with telling Moses like that.
Like the power of pictures.
It's just so,
they're so cute.
They're so good.
I'm such a fan.
And the girl was from you.
Did you know that?
The girl?
Yeah.
From season one.
I didn't know.
Did you watch you?
Yes.
She was Beck.
Yes.
I kept thinking it was, who's the girl that called the Chili's waitress fat?
Emily Blunt.
Yeah.
Doesn't she look like her?
No.
Oh my God.
I literally was like, wow, Emily Blunt's in this movie?
Like I had no idea.
And then my sister's like, oh, it's Beck.
And I was like, oh, I love you so much.
Oh my God.
That show was amazing.
Yeah.
We didn't do Black Friday.
I did the Black Friday sales online.
It's Cyber Monday today.
I think by the time you guys see this too, the cameo, not to promote cameo again, but
the 20% off I think goes until the end of Tuesday. So I think you guys have until the end of Tuesday.
Also go check out my main channel, Adam and Eve. They're back as a sponsor on my main channel,
which is very exciting. I was like, oh my God, this is so exciting. So go check them out. Also
not sponsored, but Fashion Nova sent me flowers. I saw that. I was like, can you send me a sponsorship
before you sent me flowers? Very nice. They're the only people who did it, but they comment on
all my stuff. They send me flowers.
I get it.
We give them free promo.
But can we just –
Let's seal the deal.
I was like, stop saying – not saying Fashion Nova on there.
I was like, maybe they'll come back around.
I think we're one step closer to manifesting Nicki Minaj because Moses had a dream last night.
I had a dream.
First, let me say my dream and then we'll say your dream.
You can tell we haven't done the podcast in a week.
I have so much to say.
I want to talk to everybody. It's like, let me just say, I had a dream last
night that we were hosting our own TV show and the set was like kind of the Barbie dream house
in the movie. It was kind of like these pink houses behind us. And then you had your house
over there and I had my house here and it was really cute. And you were like in your house
and you were the producer, but I was like on the, in the front where all the pool is and stuff like
that. And you were like producing from there. I actually think I called you Norman in my polyester
interview, which is weird. And I was like, I don't know. I was just like, oh my God, I manifested.
And it was like, it was, it felt so real. Like we were on set, like Malibu, Moses, Elvis, they were
like in their like little playroom over there to the side. It felt so real. So I'm manifesting that
for 2024, but Moses had a dream that Nicki Minaj was on the podcast. I think like all night, it was like a long dream.
So Nicki Minaj was on our podcast and I was like greeting her, bringing her here.
And she had like a big entourage and I was getting everyone like their drinks and food,
making sure everyone's comfortable.
And then I'm like, oh, I have only half hour left to set, you know, the cameras and sound.
So I walk in and suddenly the set is gone and it's just white.
And I was like, oh, but we have a pink tree.
And in my dream, I was like, well,
Zach Galifianakis had like between two ferns,
we can just sit around a pink tree.
I don't know, in my mind it made sense.
And that was the podcast, you and Nicki Minaj
and with a pink tree between the two.
I thought maybe it's like, we have to go to her
or something, so he's bringing the pink tree
or something in the dream.
I don't know what that means, but I feel it.
I think we're one step closer.
I don't think she does a lot of podcasts in general.
No, my friend, my friend Clint, he is like, he is running the barbs.
Like he's so in that.
Like Nikki follows him on Twitter too.
I shot him.
Yeah, I helped him DM her.
But he tells me that like a lot of the barbs want Nikki to do like podcasts too, because
they want her to go to like someone who actually like understands and respects her, you know?
So even he's saying that it would make sense for her to come here.
We're very Nikki coded.
Yeah.
And on Twitter too, I love seeing every time, every time like you, like with the perfume
and everything too, the bars get so excited and it's so cute.
I love it.
I was retweeting everybody.
I was like, I, my, my whole for you page on my Twitter was just like people tweeting.
I was like, oh my God, I felt like, am I going viral?
I wasn't.
But it was cool.
I like that people got excited because I was genuinely excited.
I genuinely love Nicki Minaj.
And this is not something new.
You guys can clock it.
I've been doing Nicki Minaj Kmart hauls, everything.
Everything she's come out with, I've always bought.
I bought every single one of her perfumes.
I'm sure they're in boxes somewhere because I have all of them.
So I love her.
I've always loved her.
I've rapped to her.
I just think she's so everything. And I love her. And I love Ice Spice I've rapped to her. I just think she's so everything.
And I love her. And I love Ice Spice too. One time Ice Spice DM'd me back because she follows
me on TikTok and she DM'd me back and I was super excited. So we'll get one step closer to both of
them. I love all of them. I would love to do, maybe this is pushing it, but I would love to
do a song with them. You know, I don't know. We do a podcast, then we do a little song.
The podcast is like the gateway.
The gateway. And I would love to do a song.
Yeah. Maybe you like spit bars for Nikki when she's here, like a little song. The podcast is like the gateway. The gateway. Then I would love to do a song. Yeah, maybe you like spit bars for Nicki when she's here.
Like a little freestyle.
And then she's like, oh, I see the vision.
Totally.
I could be like, I don't like, okay.
I was going to do a Nicki Minaj.
I was like, super bass.
I was like, no.
Do you remember when Ricky Dillon was trying to get Nicki Minaj on his song?
That was wild.
How do you know that?
How do you remember that?
Did he talk about it?
I think so.
Or you just know?
Insider tea.
He always said that like he wanted nikki
to be on his song but then he couldn't afford nikki so he got snoop dogg instead yeah i want
to say snoop dogg was only like a hundred thousand which like it's a lot but but back then like i
said like you know adsense you could make three hundred thousand dollars or something so you know
ricky dillon i guess could afforded it back then which is kind of a flex he got him in the video
too i think but i think i don't know if it was like he couldn't,
but I think it didn't include Snoop Dogg performing.
I think it was just him to be in the video,
but he wasn't lip syncing.
He was just kind of there.
Just vibing by the car.
It was called Problematic was the name of the music video.
And I remember being like,
that's kind of a slide that he had Snoop Dogg in it.
God, where is Ricky Dillon?
I should interview him.
I loved him.
He was always so nice.
Yeah, well, I wonder how much
Nikki was
I think maybe she was
like half a million
back then
yeah
cause that would make sense
cause she was doing
a lot of features
like when she was
just starting out too
right
so
and every time she did a feature
it was like always a hit
she's like 50,000
a feature
album out
I love that line
I was like oh god me
I would love that
yes
no she was
she's so iconic
I would love it
if I had half a million dollars I'd pay Nikki half a million.
She might have more now.
She's like popping.
Maybe she's like a million.
I wonder what it is.
Or is there a price?
You know, some people don't even have a price either.
I feel like everyone probably has.
It's probably really, really high.
You think?
But I feel like everyone probably has a price.
Right.
You said Beyonce performed in like Dubai and stuff.
Yeah.
I think there was, did you see the TikTok?
That like the $59 million wedding?
Oh, yeah. Didn't they have Maroon 5? What? They like the $59 million wedding? Oh, yeah.
Didn't they have Maroon 5?
What?
You have $59 million and you get Maroon 5?
Why and how?
What?
Oh, God.
That's embarrassing for them on so many levels.
Why?
I have a theory.
It probably was their planner that scammed them.
Oh, right.
We can get you Maroon 5 for $5 million.
Okay.
That's wild. Why? that's Cam to dance. Oh, right. We can get you Maroon 5 for $5 million. Okay. Bigger than half a million.
That's wild.
Why?
Why do they do that?
Yeah.
So she's like an heiress in Florida,
Madeline Brockway.
Yeah.
People were Googling her and him.
Yeah.
But I remember seeing that.
It was like $59 million.
I was like, well, Beyonce, I think.
Beyonce again for $59 million.
Maroon 5?
Is that so random?
I need to know the tea behind that.
That seems odd.
And I feel like Maroon 5 doesn't have like stands.
No, they definitely have no stands.
Find me one Maroon 5 fan.
If you're a Maroon 5 fan, email me.
I would love to have you on the podcast.
We need to see who you are.
Face to the name.
I don't believe it.
That is wild.
That's crazy.
Who would you have
at your wedding
unlimited money?
Taylor.
Yeah, I'd probably say Taylor,
but maybe,
I feel like if anyone
doesn't have a price,
it's probably her.
So my backup,
I would say Olivia Rodrigo,
but she doesn't have
like love songs.
So I guess you.
This is all breakup.
Me?
Yeah, you'd be my backup.
Oh my God,
do I have love songs?
I'm just like,
get freaky, freaky, freaky,
get freaky.
You do like a slow down, like a romantic version.
Yeah, I could totally do it.
I could do like inside of I love you, Jesus.
I'll be like, I love you, Oscar.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, you know.
That's all right.
That's my cameos.
They say, oh, I love you, Jesus.
So if it's like Molly, I'll be like, I love you, Molly.
I just like.
Oh, I love that.
I try to keep it spicy.
Not spicy.
I try to keep it interesting and unique.
Not like Todrick.
Remember when Todrick was on Big Brother?
Do you remember this?
Yeah.
And he was like telling people, oh, I just do the same thing.
I just have a, oh, hey, I don't know, happy birthday.
I was like, oh, wait.
And he's just like, yeah, I just do the same thing over and over and I make so much money.
I'm like, that's not a flex.
You're scamming.
Yeah.
So that's why with like, we were talking last week about the hate around Todrick's show.
I'm like, well...
No, I get it. He also defended Colleen this year,
this summer. But yeah, there's, you know,
there's some questioning, you know what I mean? I'm just like,
okay. He was nice to me. I think he's super
talented and stuff like that, so I'm not a Todrick
hater, but I get it. I get the
behind it. Yeah, if we had our wedding
again, we'd try to get some people. We'd try to get...
Donny Asman was out of town. I don't know if he was even going to, but we could have...
My chemical romance was five million.
That's what they told us anyways.
Someone told us five million.
Yeah, I guess we got Elvis.
We had an Elvis impersonator.
That was everything.
Yeah, we just watched it the other day.
We watched, yeah.
Well, I guess we could get him for Elvis's first birthday.
He can come back.
I'm sure he would do it.
Or Jacob Elordi.
Or Austin Butler.
I would love
either one of them to come on as Elvis.
Like interviewing them as if they're Elvis.
That's so iconic. That was
such a good idea. I was like, I love
it so much. If anyone knows Jacob
Elordi, he's kind of an it boy right now though, huh? I know.
He's so popular right now. Everyone
loves him. I get it. He is so
cute. Because he's been in too many movies back to back.
So maybe when things slow down for him. How old is he? 26. Director of Twilight said if they did a reboot, they would want him as Edward. Yes, I get it. He is so cute. Because he's been in too many movies back to back. So maybe when things slow down for him.
How old is he?
26.
Director of Twilight said if they did a reboot, they would want him as Edward.
Yes, I saw that.
Which totally makes sense, actually.
Like, to me, that makes total sense.
Me too.
It's like the perfect recasting.
Catherine Hardwick said that if they had to reboot Twilight, it'd be Jacob Lordy as Edward.
And then Jenna Ortega as Bella.
Which is
I see the vision.
Yeah.
Jenna's the it girl.
It girl.
She's on Beetlejuice.
She's in Wednesday.
She's like in everything
right now.
It's amazing.
I love seeing that.
I love seeing people
like just succeed so big.
I'm like okay I love that
so much.
Jenna is so good.
So good.
I haven't seen her
in anything else
except you.
But she was kind of
the same character in you
I felt too.
Which in you?
Okay, because I watched you for the first time this
year, and did you watch the season
two with her in it? Crystal Lee is in it,
and she's like his little assistant
friend, and he tries to drug
her, and she's like 15 in the show.
And I was like, wait, how do they
foreshadow something like that? You know what I mean?
Did someone know? Because that's a little
it's almost kind of eerie to watch. Yeah. Like, someone had to have known, and also,
why did he take that role, knowing that, like, he's obviously had incidences? Yeah. You know,
not that he's drugged anyone, but he's obviously had, you know, incidences. It could be a coincidence,
but that's, like, very extra coincidental. It's, like, eerie. I was watching, I was like,
ah! Like, it honestly kind of made me a little sick. Chris D' eerie. I was watching it. I was like, ah.
Like, it honestly kind of made me a little sick.
Chris D'Elia, I got a sponsored post of him on my TikTok, and it scared me.
I was like, all the comments were just like, they were not having it.
Which, anyways, I don't know.
Look, I'm not a cancellation police, but there are certain things I feel like people just
shouldn't bounce so back from, you know, so quickly.
And I think some people should remember, you know what I mean?
Because I forget, too.
You know, like, we were talking about James Charles.
Like, sometimes you forget the stuff with the underage people. You're just like, oh, shit. Like people should remember, you know what I mean? Because I forget too, you know, like we were talking about James Charles, like sometimes you forget the stuff
with the underage people. You're just like, oh shit. Like they actually, you know.
The allegations are very like serious.
They're very serious. And people just come back and people are like, yay, I'm glad you're past
the drama. And I was like, there's drama. And then there's, you know, some crimes.
Yeah. They're not even alleged. People like admit to it. I'm just like, uh, okay. So
Chris Lee, I don't know. Comedians in general are giving me weird vibes.
Please.
Matt Rife.
I need to drag this man to hell and back.
I don't think I've ever hated someone as much as I hate Matt Rife.
Hate.
Hate.
Can I always just say this too?
I never was that person that I wanted to be like, I don't like Matt Rife, but like I didn't
like it.
I was like, there's something off about this person.
I remember, especially when Tana was here the first time, I think,
when you kind of talked about him too. You kind of picked up on
the vibes even in like the canceled podcast
with Matt Rife and how he like didn't want
to talk and stuff. He was like off-putting.
Yeah, and I was like, I
love canceled. I love the interview. I was like, he's
odd. Interviews, he was like striking me a little odd
and stuff like that. So tell me.
Well, this kind of all broke like last
Monday after we filmed our podcast.
Yeah.
And we tried to watch it that night.
We tried to watch the Matt Rives special on Netflix.
Literally got 10 minutes.
Literally 10 minutes.
I couldn't watch it.
Yeah.
Just unfunny, first of all.
But he...
Tell me.
I think he personifies everything I hate about straight men.
So like I have not like super familiar with him.
I knew that girl liked him.
And then I found out from Tana about like, you know, his whole Netflix deal or whatever.
I'm like, okay, whatever.
I didn't really think much of it.
But his whole Netflix special, it kicks off and he's joking about domestic violence and abuse.
And he's, like, making fun of women that whole first, like, ten minutes.
Which is so crazy because a lot of women were fans of his.
No, his entire fan base.
And he just constantly, before the special, he constantly was like, I don't want women
as my fan base.
They just like me because I'm hot.
That was his whole thing.
And I was like, and I think when Brooke was here, she even talked about it a little bit
too.
It's just like, yeah, like you're good looking, but like, it's annoying to be like, I'm just
so hot.
I'm so tired of people like that game.
First of all, not that hot.
Like just not.
And I will say, I saw that.
So in a previous interview with Variety, he said like, oh, people like don't take me as
serious as a comedian because I'm hot.
Okay.
Take your veneers out because you're-
How you were before.
Yeah.
Let's go back to your wild and out days.
If being hot is such a burden for you, take out your veneers, stop doing your fillers,
gain some weight.
And then now you can just be quote unquote ugly.
And then now you can go ahead and be funny.
If that's what's holding you back. That's the tea. That's the tea. Cause he's like, I'm tired of people just thinking
I'm just so hot. It's like, well, you were, you got a lot of work done to be that way. And that's
fine. But don't complain now that you're like, oh, you're hot. And that's all people like about
you, which is like the only thing, honestly, cause I was the same way. I saw his like TikToks. I'm
like, okay, he's funny or whatever. But watching this TikTok special, I'm just like, you should
be so thankful that these women think you're hot, that these gay guys think you're hot. Because
it's like, that's all you have going for you.
There's literally – I find people funny.
I find Chris D'Elia funny.
Like I thought his stand-up was funny before all his stuff, whatever.
Like I find like most people funny.
But Matt Rife and people compare him to Dane Cook.
I even think Dane Cook is funny.
Like his like vicious circle stuff, like I think he's funny.
Like he ended up being a creep too.
But Matt Rife is so painfully unfunny.
Like no joke.
Did you watch it at all?
No.
I just saw the little clips on Twitter.
That was all I needed because I didn't want to give it.
It couldn't, with all the scandal too, by the way, he couldn't even be number one on
Netflix.
He was number two.
Number two.
And like.
So what was it all for if that's the case?
No, no, no.
Which is like, yeah, that's pretty bad because I think even like Old Dads was number one
and that is like the worst movie ever.
So like, it's like, if you can't even be number one, but it is, it is, the joke itself
too, the domestic violence one was just like so unfunny.
And like people are like, oh, people, some people, most people hated it as they should, because I think that's like one thing in 2023.
Like you just don't joke about period, period, period.
But people like to make the argument, oh, well, do you think this is bad?
Dave Chappelle or you think this is bad?
Bill Burr. And it's like, OK, those people, though, are like you have to be so funny to pull off such an offensive joke.
You have to be like hysterically funny, which Dave Chappelle is and Bill Burr is.
And it's like Matt Rife misses it so much.
The Mark so much.
That's what I hate the most is when people make jokes and they miss, they just are just not funny.
Like it's like the streaming, like a lesser thing.
Obviously the streaming is when they talk about me and like, oh, sweating like Trisha Paytas giving birth.
It's like, at least make a funny joke because I love jokes.
I think I would love to be in a joke because it's like, what an honor.
But it's like when they're so unfunny, that's like the cringiest thing that
can happen. It's just like, oof, like you made a bad joke and it's just like so painfully and funny.
The joke made no sense to me. Like the whole kitchen, like be in the back, like the waitress
with the black eye, like it just didn't make any sense. And I'm just like, do you, have you,
have you like experienced life? Have you ever been outside? Like it just, he's so, I don't know,
none of it's relatable, out of touch. But then knowing your audience is female he knows this he talks about
this in interviews that's your first joke out and to be like i hate my women audience like women
teenage girls to like 35 year old women like that's like the target demographic when i do
sponsorships that's the first thing they look for is how many women and that's men women everybody
they just want to they want a female audience that's the audience you want that's men, women, everybody. They just want to, they want a female audience. That's the audience you want. That's the audience, you know, you have. So why are you shitting on them? Like,
it's so, and then to do the domestic violence joke and then to double down and be like, for all of
those offended, like here, and then they did the link to the special helmets thing for like special
needs kids. I'm just like, how? Like, but it is like watching someone just like ruin their career
in real time. Granted, he'd probably made a lot of money off Netflix, but it's going to be, it's
going to go down real quick. Look at Dane Cook. You know what
I mean? He had a longer career than Matt Rife. He had a big, you know, huge career. It bumbles,
it flops, whatever, and stuff like that. But Matt Rife is flopping in real time and just like
destroying his career. And just the fact that he's so unfunny, so unlikable, and now his whole
audience is like turning against him because it's like, oh, you don't like us. Okay, fine. But then
now you're making those domestic violence. And every, every female I know has a
story of DV at like at some point in their life and, or they know someone affected by it. And
it's so, it's such a traumatizing thing. Like I've never talked about like my issues with it,
my experiences with it, because it's just like one of those things I blacked out and you like,
don't remember. And then you hear this stuff and it's just like, wow, you're really just,
it's just such an insult. It's such an insult. It's like, if I'm here and I'm like, God, I really
hate, I hate all females. Like they're so annoying. They're all pick me like, oh my God, stop coming
up to me. You know, y'all ugly or something. It's like so bizarre. Like it's literally just like
ruining, I don't know. And also hate women that much is crazy. Like I became a girl's girls
knowing my audience was females. All of a sudden I was like, oh wait, actually female supporting me.
And actually they're cool and they're nice.
It's like, oh, now I'm – because I used to be a pick-me girl where I'm like, I don't have any girlfriends, whatever.
But it's like I learned to like love the females because I'm like, oh, they actually are the ones that know what's up.
They're much better than guys, all this other bullshit.
So I'm so perplexed.
I'm so like angry about it.
Me too.
Like you say that you don't want women's money.
Like you specifically say in those first 10 minutes like, oh, I'm trying to alienate
my women audience.
Look at everything that is big right now.
Taylor Swift is the number one artist.
Why?
Because she markets herself to both women and men.
Barbie, number one movie of the year in like the last like few years, actually, it was
humongous because it was marketed to women as well as men.
It's like entertainment 101.
If you want to be popular, you have to like appeal to as many
people as possible with like the women's market, especially like Twilight, The Hunger Games,
like all these like female centric franchises, they make billions of dollars because they market
themselves to women. So to think that you are better than their dollar is ridiculous. And you
literally need to be humbled. And I can't wait. I can't wait to see everything
fall apart because you actually deserve it. Like that's terrible. A thousand percent. There's
people you see that you're like, oh man, it sucks. They kind of fell off or whatever, but it's like,
this is so deserving and he's doing it to himself, which is like so crazy. You had all this fan,
all this support for mediocre talent. And it's just like wild to me. It's, it's, it, and you, you said it so,
you said it so perfectly when we saw Priscilla, it was just all girls there. You know what I mean?
It's, it's all females like, and yeah, catering to both if that's what you want, but just to
really just be like, I don't want this. And I'm sorry if you're a woman out there too,
being like, oh yeah, this is this month's first special or the specials for men. And I support
this. You're a woman supporting Matt right now now that's embarrassing that's so embarrassing for you he doesn't care about you
you're being such a pick me like you are so not a girl's girl like it really just screams like
thirsty pathetic desperate like I'm so sick of seeing like girls defending this there's no way
if you are a female or male really but if you're a female you should defend this in any way like
it's it's actually crazy
because he hates women so much.
Like he hates them so much.
He's like, I do not want this to be
when I'm trying to alienate this.
This is for the men.
I'm like, you, like you said,
don't know anything about entertainment,
like anything about being successful.
Like the women pay the bills,
all this stuff like that.
And it's, I don't know.
It's bizarre.
Also, I don't understand how is it for men
because we watched it and I'm the one that stopped watching it
I turned it off
because I love comedy
I support stand up comedians
I think they're great in what they do in life
it was not funny
how did Netflix approve this
there's nobody between him
and this getting published
telling him you need better jokes.
You need to go back in writing.
Hire a writer.
The jokes were not funny.
Hiring a writer would have been it or something.
It's weird.
I was like, I can't watch this anymore.
There's not even one joke that is funny and justifies what he's doing.
So he lost me too.
If he somehow was designed for a straight man, I was like, no, the jokes were awful about your grandparents and whatnot.
I don't know. It was so bad. Yeah. We were not paying attention. We turned it off. I was just like,, the jokes were awful about your grandparents and whatnot. I don't know.
Like, it was so bad.
Yeah.
We were like not paying attention.
We turned it off.
I was just like, I can't watch this.
It's so weird.
Did you ever see him on Wild N' Out?
Okay.
I saw this Zendaya clip that got resurfaced.
Basically, the whole premise of the Wild N' Out segment, if you haven't seen it, is Zendaya
has a mouth full of water.
This was back in 2015.
So I think Zendaya was 18 at the time.
And she has a mouth full of water and basically the challenge is to make her laugh and spit it out.
And he's hitting on her saying all these things like, you're black.
Like, I want to be mixed.
She's not laughing, obviously, because she's a woman of integrity and taste.
And then all of a sudden, because he's like losing, goes up to her face and like starts caressing and tries to make her spit out.
And that and literally people on his own team are saying, whoa, don't touch her.
People on Zendaya's team are saying, back up.
And Zendaya's like putting her finger in his face.
Like, no, don't touch me.
And he's like, come on.
Like she, I'm not touching her.
It's fine.
Yeah.
Have I seen that?
And with the, like, and it's funny seeing that like pre, pre veneers, pre work done
and everything too.
No, it's so disgusting. And just like the entitlement of it. And likeers pre work done and everything too. Oh no.
It's so disgusting.
And just like the entitlement of it.
And like what year did you say that was?
2015.
2015. It's like the entitlement of it.
Even back then.
Also the confidence.
The delulu of it all.
It's like that Zendaya.
You're just like this wild and out like side character that like I literally never heard
of him before TikTok.
Like good for you that you're on wild and out.
But like the delusion that you could like touch Zendaya or touch any girl. I don't know. It's just, to me, right away, that gives me ick
vibes. I don't know. I think something happened growing up. I'm not really sure, but he's weird.
He's just dumb. I think at the end of the day, dumb and just also just like a hate, like he has
hatred in him. Like it is crazy to see him be so vile and it's like one
thing you know they a lot of comics like Theo Von or something like that will just like go
like keep moving they don't like but the fact that he like is dwelling on haters and dwelling on
jokes like oh if this offends you this it's like just don't say anything like if you're standing
by your jokes just don't say anything but the fact that he's like trying to make like these
weird jokes out of it and the special needs helmet and stuff like that I was like if you didn't like
my unfunny misogynist joke, your special needs is an insane take.
Like that's actually wild.
I mean,
that again is like also super ableist,
like people who need help and stuff like that.
It's just like,
as if like they're lesser or slow or something.
Like,
I don't,
that's what I hate too.
Everyone's like,
well,
well,
culture is ruining comedy and stuff.
No,
it's just unfunny.
Like if you,
if your comedy is relying on like shocking things,
like making fun of like DV and like women liking crystals, like –
That's what the first 10 minutes was.
It was like those crystal jokes and I was just like –
What?
It's just not funny.
It's not funny.
And I don't think it's like something where people – and not like I'm offended.
It's not like, oh, I'm offended by crystals.
It's like that's not – that's so niche and not mainstream and nothing. Nobody complains about that.
There's no guys complain.
It was.
It's very dated.
It's like a very dated reference.
Like it's all just so bizarre.
That was weird.
It's just like way to blow like your million dollar like opportunity, you know, like the
way you double down.
He's so proud, so proud of like being misogynist.
And it's like, you actually suck and you deserve the whole down
save that coin save all the coin from the tour that you made on something like that because
this is your last tour it will be 100 you'll have that like small toxic masculinity fan base but
it's not gonna like be lucrative so it's like enjoy it i get like you wanted it so desperately
like you wanted toxic men to like you and be a fan of you so badly. Well, okay, you won them over, I guess.
But they're so small that it's like,
is it actually, it's not worth it at all.
I know.
So good luck.
You'll never be mainstream.
Never, never.
Even his movies were not mainstream,
but no more movies, no more.
I saw a Burt Kreischer interview on TikTok
and he was like saying how funny Matt Rife was.
And I'm like, I hope this is before all this.
I hope all these like male comedians
that like defended him are like,
the fact that anyone said he was funny even before this is like wild to me because I did see his stuff on TikTok and it always like baffled me that people – like it's just mid.
It's just like not funny.
Like his crowd work would literally just be like talking to people and I'm just like –
I'm flirting.
Yeah.
That's all it was.
I guess because like he had like signs of like wokeness in there like a little bit.
Like, you know, there was a girl that had like a seizure.
So he like stopped the show.
I'm not saying that's woke.
I'm saying just caringness.
So there was those moments of sincerity where people were like, wow, he did that.
And it is great, but it's also like that's all that kind of made him – that's why girls liked him.
Because like, oh, he's sincere.
He cares about people, which again is nice.
But then you just sit on that audience that would buy your mid-tickets for whatever.
But the laugh track is so obvious in this comedy special.
Like I didn't hear it at first.
I was like,
Oh my gosh,
no,
that's like literally like laughs.
Like those are fake laughs that are coming through,
which is so wild that he did that.
I was just like,
you can always see when the audience is not moving.
Right.
He takes a joke and the audience is still,
but the laughter and you're like,
so who's laughing?
Like usually,
and if people are really laughing,
they usually film them.
Yeah. The laughs and stuff sound more genuine,
but it was, I mean, when it comes to the unfunniest,
like the unfunniest and just seeing him
on other people's podcasts,
I watched him on Canceled,
I watched him on Whitney and stuff like that.
And he's just so, and I said that to them too.
It's just like, it's so weird.
Cause it's like, he's so, you could just tell
he either thinks he's better than them, standoffish,
or he's just not funny or personable or whatever. All of it's bad. And just, you know, I saw him on Stiff Socks, which is also like, that's where he's so – you could just tell he either thinks he's better than him, standoffish, or he's just not funny or personable or whatever.
All of it's bad.
And just – I saw him on Stiff Socks, which is also like – that's where he was talking about like women's – you know, just bodies and stuff like that.
And again, it's preference, preference, whatever.
But they were talking about like that area down there.
I was just like it's all gross to me.
It has – his comedy special has a 16% on Rotten Tomatoes too.
Good.
It's very affirming that like people –
We can do like a 2% maybe. 2%. 16% on Rotten Tomatoes too. It's very affirming that like people I love the like
we can do like a 2% maybe but
whatever at least a lot of people also hate it
because oh that really gave me the
ick like yeah
everything I read about Matt Rife just made me
dislike him more and more. The way he talks about his ex-girlfriends
and he had like homophobic
racist like problematic tweets
too and it's like tweets like
you know times have changed
so it's like you know but this not in conjunction with how he like talks about women present now
it's like yeah currently and defending it and just being like totally okay and i yeah it's very
bizarre it's very weird i don't know anyone who supports him i mean that's literally like side
eye to you like what like he's not funny so what are you supporting like there's just and that's
that's universally like agreed upon that he's just not you know what i mean there's i don't know that
it's bad it's bad how he got this far is crazy pretty privileged but yeah from tiktok that only
goes so far yeah he doesn't even like this pretty privilege so take it yeah so in that case who
paid for it's like okay again fine but don't like knock it he's acting like he's the curse he was just born so handsome
and it's like
well you can have the work done
I hate it
just think about Jimmy Fallon too
when he was talking about like
oh I think I have imposter syndrome
it's like you do
like you don't belong here
like there's a reason
it's not imposter syndrome
it's you're bad
and you just got lucky
yeah hopefully you save your money
and just oh
just think about podcasts
just think people like
hype him up still
I'm just like
it's few
I'm literally his number one hater if there's one hater it's me yeah and if he has none then I'm just like, bleh. It's few, but me too. I'm literally his number one hater.
And there's one hater.
And if he has none, then I'm dead.
I love that. That's the one I was thinking of.
Can we say that? We might need to bleep it on YouTube, though.
Like hate speech or something like that. Bleep it.
We're going to say something crazy.
I know. I always get worried about that.
I was like, we have a strong distaste.
Bleep the hate word.
Yeah, I was happy to see him canceled.
And I'm never happy to see most people canceled.
And then I saw there was like a TikTok that like summed up everything wrong with him.
And then they were saying on canceled, he was saying, he was telling Tana and Brooke like he could never be canceled.
He was like bragging about it.
I'm like, careful what you wish for, honey.
How those turned have tabled.
Turned have tabled 100%.
Where did that come from, the switch now?
I thought it was from the Jonas Brothers, but I could be wrong.
Did they say that?
Okay, because I see that all the time now, like how the turns up tables.
They have this meme where they like picked up a table and turned it around and they said
have a turns table or something like that.
Okay, I see that in TikTok all the time.
I don't know.
It's so accurate on so many things like that.
But where were we talking about?
We were talking about cancellation.
I was going to go.
I was going to segue to Brooke and Tana.
Oh, okay.
That's good.
Yeah.
Well, because we're talking about canceled.
And again, right after we did the podcast that day, everyone was like, don't worry.
She gave her a car.
I was like, okay.
Because we were talking about it.
Literally, it happened, I think, as the segment was going up.
Literally.
Like five minutes before, they just posted that Tana had got Brooke her dream car for her birthday.
Which is nice.
It was a new green Bronco.
I love Broncos.
And now it all kind of makes sense because Tana was even like so nonchalant during birthday gate when they were talking about it.
And she was like, well, I'm going to have to get Brooke something really nice for her birthday, something really expensive.
So it all kind of makes sense.
You miss all my birthdays if you buy me a car.
Yeah.
I'll never come again.
Oh, no.
That was everything.
No, that was kind of iconic.
That was everything.
I love that.
I love people who just, like, do that stuff.
It's so cool.
Me too.
And it's, like, the perfect way to cap that whole week of, like, turmoil and the canceled
fan base of everyone, like, picking sides and stuff, you know?
I was like, well, Tana's smart.
Tana is very smart.
So smart.
She's also just like so nice,
so sweet.
I'm going to try and get her on
as my final guest for this year.
Maybe we'll do like a little recap
with Tana because I love,
I love Tana.
I would have her on like
literally all the time.
They talk about me on canceled too.
They said that they would have
me on all the time.
Like we should do five episodes
of Trisha.
I was like, okay.
Just keep doing each other's podcasts.
Brooke and Tana are the number one
guests on ours. They get the most views. People love them each other's podcasts. Brooke and Tana are the number one guests on ours.
They get the most views.
People love them, rightfully so.
They are the it girls, and I feel so honored.
They're literally friends with literally everybody, all these different random people.
They're friends to everybody, and I love them so much, and that was so cool.
Yeah, Tana FaceTimed me on my pregnancy, when I announced my pregnancy, but I ignored it
because I got scared.
I get so scared when anyone FaceTimes me.
I get anxious.
I don't know what it is.
But I was happy.
Just to hand up here watching this.
I was so happy.
And then she was like, oh, I got brick and iron screaming.
And I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
I get so – even if you FaceTimed me, I would just ignore it.
And I stare at it.
I don't even like decline it.
I'm just like, stop.
Just go away.
I think it's so nice though.
Like I love it.
Like I do love when people try to FaceTime me because I'm like that's nice and that never happens.
But, yeah, I was super excited for them. The car is a bougie.
It's a flex for sure. It's beautiful. Ah, Bronco. What do you drive? You drive a Tesla. Yeah. My
lease is almost up though, Tana. It'll be up in a few months. I honestly, I don't know anything
really about cars. I was like figuring out what lease to get. And I was like, I guess a Tesla.
Everyone has Teslas, like Joey and David and everyone. So you're like, I guess a Tesla. Everyone has Teslas. Yeah. Joey and David and everyone. So you're like, I got a Tesla.
I got a Tesla.
Do you think you'll renew it?
I don't know.
Is it expensive?
Not the model.
I was like the, it kind of was the same as like my Volkswagen.
So yeah, weirdly.
Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know.
But Tana, if you're out there, whatever you want to surprise.
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I know, right?
I don't know if it's a car or whatever.
My lease is up to you on my rolls.
I have to kind of trade it at this point
because with two big car seats,
it's just not going to, like, we all won't fit in the back.
And I have to be. So we need a car.
Tell us your suggestions because I think we're going to trade in all our cars, honestly.
We need to get two cars because we need two cars.
And I think we need big SUVs.
We might get a minivan if there's minivan suggestions.
But also I kind of want a bougie SUV too.
I want to be a bougie mom.
But we need like the ones with like the bucket seats in the back and like another row in the back.
Oh, yeah.
You know, so there can be like two and I can be back there with them.
And I don't know.
We saw like Lincoln Nav.
I don't know. We're literally in the mom era. Like he had a Ferrari. He had a Roll them. And I don't know. We saw like Lincoln Nav. I don't know.
We're literally in the mom era.
Like he had a Ferrari, he had a Rolls.
And I'm just like, we have to trade these in.
And which is fine, which is cute.
But I guess when they get older, we'll get, I want that.
Oh God, the Kylie Cullinan that you saw.
Oh yes.
Every ounce of me is like, I want to get it.
But I'm like, ooh, I don't know.
I really want to get it.
But, but you know, that's, that's maturing.
That's being a parent is, you know, releasing something.
But this pink rolls, our lease ends this month, and it is a little sad.
It's a little – but it also saves like $6,000 a month.
And I'm like, okay, honestly, we should probably save money.
And we have been.
We've been saving money.
But it's like, yeah, it's bittersweet when something ends.
But then, I don't know, I need to get a new car.
I like the Bronco, but I don't think that's like very family-friendly. Yeah, I think of OJ Simpson when I think of Broncos
Oh, right. Yeah, you know
I probably was like what so 97 I think yeah, I was a baby. I was like four or something
But do you remember like watching him? No, I'm a true crime girl. He's from
Spec yeah, I remember seeing it at the airport and I remember seeing like a white Bronco
I didn't really know what was happening, but I know it's like a big deal My dad was like watching it. So like it's one everything Bron yeah. I remember seeing it. We were at the airport, and I remember seeing, like, a white Bronco. And I didn't really know what was happening, but I didn't know it was, like, a big deal.
My dad was, like, watching it.
So when I read things about Broncos, I think, oh, geez, I'm sim.
He should promote it.
I'm surprised they don't have him as a spokesperson or something.
I don't know if they want OJ as a spokesperson.
Really?
Really?
Because I feel like people – look, I'm not supporting OJ.
Don't even get it twisted.
But I feel like they're synonymous.
I don't know.
Are there OJ fans?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
He was found innocent. Yeah. I don't know. Are there OJ fans? I don't know. I don't know either. He was found innocent.
Yeah, but that was big.
A big controversy around that.
How does Gypsy Rose go to prison, but
OJ Simpson doesn't? Patriarchy.
Patriarchy. For real.
I was like, they should really look at the
circumstances of what someone,
you know what I mean? She was a victim of child
abuse. What are children supposed to do? We talked about this before.
But it's also just like, there needs to be looked at,
you know, let's look at the case here and stuff like that. Cause I, now my TikTok's all gypsy
rose cause we talked about it last time. And there's just more and more stuff that comes out
and they like got a house built for them because she said she was like, she basically told her she
was like in a wheelchair and like, she couldn't get out of it. Like some of the stuff is great.
Doctors, like it, there was doctors who were performing surgeries on her and there was nothing
wrong with her. Like, how are they not malpractice?
Like, how are they not, like, tried, like, in prison?
Like, it's so bizarre to me.
This case is so bizarre.
And I keep getting more deeper and deeper into it.
So I really – and if she comes on the podcast, I'll do a real big deep dive.
But anyways, we went a whole roundabout way.
Where did we start?
From canceled to Broncos.
Oh, any other canceled news we'd love to talk about?
Did you wish Brooke a happy birthday?
Ah, no.
I'm so bad.
I'm so bad.
I'm so sorry.
She kept posting, and I was like, I wanted to.
I'm like, is it weird for someone that she's talking to?
Like, we've exchanged, like, two DMs.
You'd be like, happy birthday.
No, I don't think so.
I got so in my head about it.
But then I'm like, oh, my God.
Birthdays are so important to her.
So I'm like, is our friendship?
I really, like, spiraled.
I get in my head, too.
I get in my head about that stuff, too. Because I'm always like, especially, like, birthdays. Like, everyone gets so many birthday texts. And it's like, it is friendship ruined? I really like spiraled. I get in my head too. I get in my head about that stuff too.
Cause I'm always like, especially like birthdays, like everyone gets so many birthday texts
and it's like, it is a lot to respond to everybody.
So I'm like, do I even text?
Happy birthday Brooke.
I was so angry.
But this is our official happy birthday.
We'll dedicate the episode to you.
I feel like she listens.
Either she like sees clips of her part or she listens.
I listen to all of Canceled.
I listen to all of it all the time.
Like whenever I'm driving.
I love when it's just them.
That's like my favorite.
I do too.
That's what I always say.
And I think that's like the beauty of like a two-person podcast. Like people prefer us over
like, you know, guests and stuff like that. But I think with two people podcast, that is kind of
the beauty of it. You don't need guests. So if you have more than two people, you don't need guests,
like period. And that is Canceled. I think there's just so many podcasts I listen to when they have
guests. It just becomes so much. And I'm just like, okay, we don't need so many people chiming
in. We never talk about them. And I'm kind of scared too, because I feel like it's like summoning. It's like saying
Voldemort or something like that. Like the BFFs podcast. Oh yeah. I don't know. They scare me.
Dave scares me. I feel like, um, he always had a hate on, which I didn't actually knew nothing
about Dave until, uh, Silvana and they just broke up. Do you know his girlfriend? I just saw that
when I was in my straight man news, like investigating.
You saw they broke up.
Savannah posted on her TikTok, really just like,
imagine you buy this for someone and they break up with you.
They've been together for a couple of years at least.
And they were pretty solid.
Savannah is probably the most beautiful.
Moses knows I have been a fan.
Like I'm like, this is my type.
Like if I could date a girl, this would be like, I'm obsessed with her.
And we were talking about like analyzing my type. Like for some reason that she's like my type I don't know why there's like a certain girl that looks like that I think she's just so beautiful she's the most beautiful
person in my whole like truly truly truly if I think of the most beautiful woman I think of
Savannah I mean a thousand percent I've commented I've dm'd her I like love her and so she was
deporter and I was like oh like I think a lot of people are just like what like you know what I
mean and not even his looks it's more just his bro vibe.
You're like, why?
But then we all got on Team D.
Why?
Because Savannah.
We're like, okay, well, this girl, she thinks he's cool.
So he must be cool.
They seem to be great.
He would be in her TikTok.
She was doing cute stuff, making their house cute.
Like, it just was like cute vibes.
And he broke up with her, which is like wild, which is crazy.
He confirmed the breakup.
He did say like, yes, he just had gone through a breakup.
But he wasn't with, I guess the tea was he was seeing Raquel.
Is she from Vanderpump Rules?
Oh, Vanderpump, yeah.
They were both in this small town in Illinois, which is sus.
Like, why are you in this?
I'm from Illinois.
And if you're in like a small town, like what are you doing there?
Why are you both there?
Because Raquel wasn't doing anything.
I guess he was there to try pizza or something.
I don't know.
But then he's like, no, I never met.
And then he said something so bro, so like misogynistic,
where he was like, no, I don't know that trash person or that slut.
Or something crazy.
I don't know what he said.
I was like, he's just a little abrasive in general and like barstool in general.
Like, you know, we have the whole thing, but we won't go there.
But I just was like, how could you break up?
And it's not even that she's so beautiful.
Like, she really is so stunning.
Like, if she had a personality of a rock, I would date her.
I mean, she's just so stunning.
But she has a good personality.
She's super sweet.
She was like so into Dave.
Like, I just don't understand where, I guess what I heard, the rumor I saw, I think, I
don't know, somewhere on TikTok or something was that she gave him, no one knows if this
is true, was that she wanted to get married and have kids and he didn't.
Which he is in his 40s and I don't think he, I think he's maybe been married but no kids
maybe.
So that could be, I mean, that seems like maybe a legitimate reason.
In which case, then I kind of respect him breaking up with her because then don't waste her time.
I don't know.
I don't know what's true.
And she seems like someone who would want a family.
She would be like the best mom and she's like a homemaker and stuff like that.
So I think she could do so much better.
Someone said she should date Tom Brady.
I don't know why they suggested that.
But I thought, yeah.
That wasn't their football girl era.
I love them so much.
But yeah.
When I think of a lot of people talking, I think of BFFs
and not bad, but I went on one time and it just was, it was just chaos. Like there's just a lot
of people talking and to talk to you. And it was a Zoom. So like everyone was like changing. Yeah.
I was like, I don't, I didn't even know what was happening, but I think, I think those kinds of
situations, they just keep three. Well, they don't have guests. I guess they have guests sometimes.
I think they had Matt Rife on. I don't know. It's so random, but whenever people break up, I'm just always like,
why? Why did you break up? I don't know. Breakups to me are so sad. The idea of breaking up with
someone is wild to me. We talked about this before. Have you broken up with someone?
No, I've just been the broken.
Dumpy. Yeah, same. I've been the dumped. It's so bizarre. I couldn't even imagine being like,
it's time for us to not see each other ever again. That's so weird. Why do people do it?
You just get over that person. You're just over them. You're just like, I get it if it's abusive,
obviously. Like, okay, leave that person. But if there's no abuse and people are like,
it's mutual. We're best friends. And they still hang out after the breakup. I'm like,
so why did you break up? I know Joey and Daniel get it all the time because like they broke up.
They had the breakup video,
but then they literally are together all the time.
So it's like, why did you break up?
Yeah, right?
What's the tea there?
We need a statement, I guess.
We need a statement.
Because like, what the hell?
That kind of reminds me,
I saw this like viral like TikTok the other day
and it was like this girl,
she was living with her boyfriend
and then all of a sudden he just like ghosted her.
He like texted her like, hey, I'm not going to be coming home tonight.
And I think that we should stop seeing each other or whatever.
And they lived together?
She was making them dinner.
Yeah, they literally lived together.
And then she was like, wait, what?
And then she tried calling him.
No response.
Tried calling his parents.
Like nothing.
He just never came back to the apartment.
She like never figured it out.
Oh, wow.
Isn't that crazy?
That's wild to me.
That's crazy.
You like live with somebody, you have this life with someone.
I wonder, he must have had another life or another wife or something.
Or maybe he just.
Sorry.
You're gas.
You know, just casual.
That's weird.
That is so bizarre when they just don't like come back.
Like, I mean, you hear those stories.
Maybe he didn't know how to break up with her.
I don't know.
That's the only thing I can think of. But you live. Like, I've never lived with someone before Moses. Like, that to me, I can't even fathom. Like, I mean, you hear those stories. Maybe you didn't know how to break up with her. I don't know. That's the only thing I can think of.
But you live,
like I've never lived with someone before Moses.
Like that to me,
I can't even fathom.
Like you,
you break up.
So how does that work?
Like,
do you wait till the lease is over?
Like,
yeah.
Dividing like belongings and stuff.
That's crazy.
And like,
if we broke up,
we'd have to live together.
I mean,
no one's going to be able to like afford to move out.
Like if we just like lived,
I don't know.
It's such a bizarre concept to me.
Breakups are wild. They are wild. I, why people do them? Why do you break up
with someone? I just don't know. I never understood it. I hope that situation with like Dave is true
or it's like, you know, if they just want different things and like, okay, that makes sense. So I
guess that's like, that's a very valid reason. But yeah, I, I guess I would rather be the one
dumped than do the breaking up. Cause I don't know how I would do it.
I feel like I've tried to break up with people or something that just like never works.
You know what I mean?
I just ghost people.
That's why I've always said with ghosting, I just ghost people because I'm like, well, I don't know.
Like I've tried to say I don't want to see them or they don't get it or something like that.
So it's better to ghost, I guess, in that situation because it is sad.
And how do you just say like it's not working out?
I don't know.
I'm trying to think.
I don't think I've ever been like dumped.
I think I've just been blocked.
So I could be kind of ghosted.
I think I'm just blocked and never talked to again or something like that.
Because I've never had someone like have a conversation with me.
Like, you know, I don't think this is working out.
Unless they did and I was just like, no.
That's how I say it. Even with divorce.
I'm like, how?
Honestly, if someone divorced you, what if I'm just like, no, I don't want to divorce
you.
I'm not going to sign this paper.
Look at you, Sam Ascari, not divorcing Brittany.
She's still married right now. I think he's trying to keep that money going or whatever. But it is odd.
Who gets to say?
If I send you divorce papers,
do you have the option to be like, no, I'm not divorcing you?
And then you just have to stay married?
And then how do you actually get that person out of your house?
They can sue, I think.
I think. Because you can't
divorce someone to be married, I think.
It is crazy to think about.
I know.
Because I'm always like, how do you get someone out of your house?
No, I'm not going to sign that.
Yeah.
I'm not getting a divorce.
Not signing that.
Especially if it's like pay up and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is crazy.
I guess then you just hope the other person's normal and just would be like, okay, fine.
If you want to divorce me, I'll divorce you.
But, yeah, it's kind of weird.
Yeah.
That's why, like in retrospect, I'm glad I've always been the one.
Because also it motivates you.
Like, I was always fueled by it.
I was like, you know what?
I'm going to, like, better myself because of this.
I'm going to show them, you know?
So it also gives you something to, like, get fired up.
Yeah.
I was just kind of spiraled.
I was just kind of like, yeah, I've got nothing to live for.
I don't know.
I guess after a time you get a little more motivated and stuff like that.
But it is hard.
Breakups suck.
It makes me. And she was so sad. She was, like, crying in her. And then she got this motivated and stuff like that. But it is hard. Breakups suck. It makes me.
And she was so sad.
She was like crying in her.
And then she got this new place and a tree.
She ordered a tree.
And like she's like I have no place to put it.
Oh, the holidays too.
Oh.
It was like the day before Thanksgiving.
And I was like can you wait until the new year?
Like I think that's so cold to like break up.
Doesn't Scottie Sire have a breakup song about Christmas?
Do you know that song?
Nobody wants a lonely Christmas. But I'm about to make it leave with you.
Breaking up is at the top of my wish list.
And I'm sorry, but I'm leaving you.
That's his song?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
It was so good.
And he's, okay, we're Scotty Sire.
The official Scotty Sire podcast.
I'm not going to lie.
I was always a fan of Scotty Sire in the vlog squad.
Like even as like my jokes, I was always like, I always thought he was the hot one.
I always thought he was the funny one.
He was really nice.
I have a soft spot for him. He's very sweet.
His songs are kind of a bop. They're worth the 1.2 million or whatever. But yeah, there was a
song called Lonely Christmas. I think it's with like Keith and it was just like, breaking up is
at the top of my wishlist. Sorry, but I'm leaving you. It was so good. Nobody wants a lonely Christmas,
but I'm about to call it splits with you. Breaking up is at the top of my Christmas.
Sorry, but I'm leaving.
You are wishlist.
It's a good song.
Maybe Dave used that song for inspiration.
And I was like, wow, who would break up with someone at Christmas?
And it was, anyway, we love a Scottie Zier Christmas song.
The fact that he made one is wild.
Sometimes I do think about that.
I'm like, what are they doing now?
You know what I mean?
Like, maybe they're just so rich.
I don't know.
Maybe they invested in the happy punch or whatever that thing is that they always promote. Maybe
they're just so rich. In which case, good for you, honestly. Honestly, I think that's great.
I'm about to win the lotto. I'm going to buy the weekend for me for my wedding. And what was yours
again? Who was your person? You. Give me a discount. Discount. I would get you, not buy,
that sounds bad. Like I would hire Olivia Rodrigo. Oh, I would love that. Or Taylor Swift. I think if I won the lottery,
what is it, up to $400 million tonight? I think then I could
probably afford Olivia Rodrigo. Oh, yeah. I think
Olivia's definitely within budget. For your wedding.
I wonder if you could pay people to come on the podcast.
Oh, 100%. Oh, really?
Yeah. I thought that's like bribing or something. You can't
give money. No, it's like appearance fees or whatever.
Oh, really? Yeah. Hmm.
Oh, I wonder. That'd be great. We could
buy all the guests we want on here. Yeah. We'll put like a million scores. Oh, yeah. I would still continue Oh, I wonder. That'd be great. We could buy all the guests we want on here.
Yeah.
We'll put like a million scores.
Oh, yeah.
I would still continue this if I won the lotto.
Maybe like once every couple weeks or something like that.
No, I like the once a week.
It's a good – it's my social hour.
Like I literally socialize never any other time during the week.
We did the Twilight, Tiffany Haddish, Stop Drinking and Driving.
For Twilight, the second part of that did you see that
Catherine Hardwicke
thought Robert Pattinson
was too ugly
for Edward Cullen
at first
wait what
yeah
okay
like I get it
like he doesn't
look like
he's not like
okay continue
he came in
he was like very messy
like he had stains
on his shirt and stuff
and they were like
this is the one
they had to do like
a whole makeover on him
to make him like
why would he come with stains I don't know as far as Iover on him to make him like. Why would he come with stains?
I don't know.
As far as I think people exaggerate stories.
Because like why would he come in with stains for an audition?
Well, he was also very broke for like a good part of his life.
Like him, Andrew Garfield, Jamie Dornan.
They're all roommates.
Someone else too.
They were all roommates together and they're all like super broke and like couldn't afford to like barely eat or something.
Okay.
But like you could afford a shirt at Target.
Like there's broke.
Or a good will I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Literally like that doesn't make any sense to me.
That's why I think some of these stories are exaggerated.
Like he came in with just stains on his shirt.
And it's like did he?
Like I want to see that footage.
I don't know.
I get it though.
I get it because like he is obviously good looking and he's so good looking in Twilight.
But it's like a lot of people I think use.
It's like when you see who is it? carrie underwood when she auditioned for american idol
you know they come in and they look cute but they just look you know but then you get stylists you
get hair makeup and then they turn into this beautiful person you know i mean adam lambert's
another good example of that kylie clarkson anyone who was on american idol just see their
first audition it's like their glow up is like so real i mean it's always and look at the kardashians
too it's like when you have money like you can look gorge like you can be beautiful matt rife i knew
he's mid though i don't know if we call him beautiful okay but so what did they say they're
like well we saw the potential of the hotness there the director was like no we can work with
it like at first he was very skeptical but then they did like a screen test and they're like no
like but he has the cheekbones and they kind of just did a little bit of a makeover yeah i have
a hard time believing he was like ugly i know because because he was in Harry Potter and he was like cute in Harry Potter.
Yeah.
He looked the same.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that one.
The fourth one.
That's the only one I've ever really seen, I think.
The Goblet of Fire.
I think I saw the first, but I love Goblet of Fire.
Me too.
Because it's kind of like a little bit of a reality show in like, you know, like the
little tournament.
It's very Hunger Games kind of too.
Oh, yeah.
That does make sense.
I mean, no one dies.
Usually they live, but well, Cedric dies.
Spoiler alert.
Did we say that?
Is it a spoiler alert if it's like 20 years old?
I wanted to be in the fourth one so bad because I had read the book.
And I didn't know she was supposed to be Asian or anything, but I wanted to be Cho – Cho
Chang.
Cho Chang.
Oh, my God.
I wanted to be her because she got to kiss like Harry.
She got to be his date.
And I was like – I wanted – I used to like visualize.
I used to pretend to be in the movie as her. Before the movie even came out, the book, I was just like, oh, I could be her because she got to kiss like Harry she got to be his date and I was like I wanted I used to like visualize I used to pretend to be in the movie as her
before the movie even came out
the book I was just like
oh I could be her
I thought that would be the best
and I wanted to be cast
it's so bad
and then I realized
it was like an all British cast
I was like oh man
I was so sad
Were you mad at Zoella
that she was in the movie
and you weren't?
She was?
Her and Joe
Zoella?
Was she even old enough
because I feel like
she's so much younger
I think she was in the first one
No there's no way I swear to God Because me and Daniel Radcliffe are the same? Because I feel like she's so much younger. I think she was in the first one. No, there's no way.
I swear to God.
Because me and Daniel Radcliffe are the same age and I was like 10 when that movie came out.
So she had to be like two?
Was she a baby in the movie?
I swear she was in it.
I think that was a false rumor.
She was in the first and second Harry Potter films.
How old is Zoella?
Let's see.
There's no way.
Let's math.
Math ain't math.
She's 33.
Is she one of those that acted so young?
It's like Luke Conner.
They acted like they were like 15 when they were like 30 years old.
I think she was just like in it like a random student.
It's not like she had like a big role or anything.
But her and Joe, her brother, were both.
Wow.
That's a flex.
Oh, my God.
Wait.
I would say she was so much younger than me.
Oh, my God.
The way you talked about it.
Yeah.
But she acted young. This was back in the day when people were like age bait, I was like, she was so much younger than me. Oh, my God. The way you talked about her. Yeah, but she acted young.
This was back in the day when people were like age bait, I feel like.
They all acted like they were like 17 years old.
Yeah.
And I was like, this is weird.
There was like a whole era of people just acting way too young for how old they were.
Eating little candies and stuff.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Eating little candies?
Yeah, I remember it was those challenges.
It was like eating British candy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those were awful.
Those were like such weird videos to make. I guess they got views back in the day. YouTube, yeah, yeah. Those were awful. Those were like such a weird videos to make.
I guess they got views back in the day.
YouTube has changed so much.
I know.
Now if you did that, people would be like, what the hell are you doing?
There's still people who do that and you're just like, okay, this is why.
This is why we're not evolving.
You've got to adapt.
Get a podcast for 2023.
It is wild to see people trying to do those like same old trends or the same old videos
they were doing in like 2015.
It's like, okay, like evolve, you know?
Zoe's also – she's pregnant.
Wait.
Oh, is she?
Oh no, she's getting married.
Is that what it was?
Oh yeah.
We talked about this because it was like, they already had babies and stuff together.
It's like.
For somebody who thought she was pregnant, I was like, oh, then Elvis and Zoe's baby.
Oh my gosh.
I know.
I thought London, I thought Paris was pregnant, but I think she had the baby, right?
She did.
Yeah.
Baby London.
Baby London.
Yeah.
I know.
I thought it was like a expecting announcement, but it was just, she's here.
I love that.
I was like, oh my gosh.
I do love that.
That's everything, just to be like, here's the baby.
But they didn't show a picture of her, so that's why I was like confused.
I was like, wait, is it coming?
But there's no pictures of baby London out there.
With her first one, too, I don't think she announced until he was here, right?
Oh, okay.
I think.
Yeah, right.
I think so, too.
I think it was all of a sudden like, here's our baby.
It was like the beginning of this year, wasn't it? Yeah.
I love posting, you know, like, people are
mean on the internet. People are just, like, if you're making fun of a baby,
you're an asshole. But I love just, like,
I don't know, because a lot of people don't post before,
like, six months, because babies just, like, when they're
newborn, they just look different, you know what I mean?
There's very rare babies that come out looking so cute,
you know? My poor baby was squished
because I was pushing for three hours. She had, like, a squished
face, but I was, like, I'm posting her because she was so, to me, to you, your baby's
the most beautiful thing in the world. And you just pushed it out. You had to push out a baby
or delivered a baby or whatever. And it's just like this, like, we were just talking about this
literally last night. It's like this crazy thing where you're just like, oh my God, there's a whole
human that came out. And why wouldn't you want to show it? You're like, look what I just created.
That's like a masterpiece. So I just, I shared mine. I was like, you know, her poor face was so
squished. It was even more squished. They I was like, you know, her face was so squished.
It was even more squished.
They actually had to like unsqueeze her when she came out because she was so squished.
She almost was like, it was almost like flat.
It was like actually like crazy.
Moses saw her.
I didn't.
And then they had to like try to, and then her nose, it was so squished.
Everything was so squished.
I was like, oh, I'm so sorry.
Because that's the reason we had to go to C-section because her head, they're supposed
to be like this, but her face was up.
Yeah.
So it was just squeezing against her face.
When she came out, she looked like a little ninja turtle.
Definitely a ninja turtle.
It was cute.
Her nose was squished down.
It was so interesting.
And we put a little headband around her and she did this little peace sign.
She looked like a little ninja turtle.
I thought it was cute, though.
I was like, whatever, we're posting this.
I've been that.
That was her face forever.
I didn't know she was squished. I had no idea what was happening. But to me, I thought it was cute though. I was like, whatever, we're posting this. Even though I thought it was her face forever, I didn't know she was squished. I had no idea what was happening.
But I was like, to me, I thought she was so cute. And so I was like, I'm posting it. But I know a
lot of people don't post because people are so mean to actual babies when they're just growing
and developing, which to each their own. But I love little babies. They're just so fun.
And the name is cute, London, because the character from Suite Life is Zack and Cody.
London Tipton. I wonder if she did that on purpose. I kind of think, don't you think she
did? I feel like she's kind of like cheeky like that where she would.
Paris, London.
That's a big commitment to like name after a TV character.
I mean.
I love it though.
I know.
But I like.
I don't love The Suite Life of Zack and Cody.
You know what I mean?
There's no way she loves that show.
So I get it.
Like I think it's fun.
Like Zohan.
Oh I love the movie Zohan.
I love Houdini.
Like are you going to name your kid that? Like I don't know. But Elvis is just so cool. Malibu's fun. Zohan. I love the movie Zohan. I love Houdini. Are you going to name your kid that? I don't know.
But Elvis is just so cool.
Malibu Barbie. They're pop icons.
They're cool. But London
Tipton. Iconic
in her own right, but I don't think that's a
big commitment if you're like, I'm actually going to do this.
I'm like, wow, that's wild. It is cute
that London Hilton, Paris Hilton, and
What's Her Sound Phoenix are all locations.
I wonder if she'll continue to do that if she has more kids. Just keep naming them after locations. I like San Diego. It's kind though. London, Hilton, Paris Hilton, and what's her son, Phoenix. They're all like locations. I wonder if she'll continue to do that if she has more kids.
Just keep naming them after locations.
I like San Diego.
It's kind of cute.
I used to come to that too, yeah.
What's another good city?
I mean, Malibu, but she's taken.
What's another city name?
Sacramento.
What?
That's not a name.
Tallahassee.
Tallahassee's kind of cute.
Is that a name?
In Florida.
Okay, that's cute.
Tallahassee's kind of cute.
Maybe Venice.
Yeah.
Kansas.
Kansas City.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, that girl, Peeta Brad on TikTok also said the dream guest was Travis Kelsey.
I would love.
The Taylor element aside, just the way that he is is like very Trish coded.
The way he sees life.
She said that.
She said, I don't want them to even talk about Taylor Swift at all.
I want Travis Kelsey to read his tweets to Trish.
And I was like, that's everything.
We didn't even talk about that last time, but we can talk about it now.
I mean, it's old news, but we can
talk about it. He did say in his
podcast this week, he was trying to get all those
tweets deleted before they
got viral. I don't know. They're so cute.
They're cute. They're quirky in the best
genuine way. Yeah, they're very charming.
The Olive Garden one you sent me, and I was like, yes.
These tweets kept popping up. I was like,
this feels like something Trish would tweet
in like 2023.
Oh, for sure.
The Olive Garden, the Fred Sticks, the fettuccine.
Yes.
No, his tweets were so funny.
Like he's so funny.
Like he has such a, like I don't even know much about him, but just like the clips I've seen of him on TikTok and stuff.
He has like such a good sense of humor.
His tweets were just so like humble down to earth.
Like he was alone on Thanksgiving this year.
I was like, relatable.
Like it's so cute.
He's going to eat KFC on Thanksgiving.
I was like, I have a mukbang. Look it up. Trish eating Thanksgiving KFC. What was that? 2020 is the year I knew Moses. And I just had KFC. I was like, I love this guy. He's so
humble and cute, obviously, but funny. I love that he spells everything wrong.
Like there's something so like sweet about it. I don't know. Yeah. I love it. I would love him
on the podcast too. And I love his brother. I'm like really
Oh yeah.
I'm really falling for the whole thing. Like I'm
really into it now. Like Jason
Kelsey is a man.
Really? I don't know which one. He had a
reality show right? I know Travis did.
I feel like I saw Jason's wife on
something. Oh. Was she on a show with him or something?
Maybe they were on the show. I love
an unserious like cutesy like low stakes kind of. I don't know. There's something like good about that. Oh. Was she on a show with him or something? Maybe they were on the show. I love an unserious, like, cutesy, like, low stakes kind of – I don't know.
There's something, like, good about that.
Oh.
When it's not, like, fighting for, like, $5 million or something, you know?
I was going to say.
Did you watch Squid Games?
I did watch it.
I'm going to have to say.
Did you watch it?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
I watched Squid Games, which – we never watched the show.
Oh, okay.
So I, you know, I get the idea.
I always saw, like, that red light, green light girl.
You know what I mean?
I get the idea of it. Oh, dolly. So that's all I know. If there's more episodes, I don't really – I probably, I get the idea. I always saw like that red light, green light girl. You know what I mean? I get the idea of it.
So that's all I know.
If there's more episodes, I don't really, I probably won't get the reference.
So I got the red light, green light thing.
But they were saying, because I watched on TikTok, I'm on the TikTok where all the Squid
Game contestants are talking about their experience on it.
And so they were saying, you know, like the girl squatting, they were like, oh, but she
was like holding that position for like 30 minutes or something.
Where in the show, it makes it seem like it's going so quick.
So I was like, oh, how could she not hold the squatting position you know but
yeah yeah and she said it she right when she happens like why did i squat but that
first of all it's so scary and so traumatizing like they have little ink pouches yeah that like
pop when you get alive so scary i was like oh my god if that happened i would literally think
they actually shot me or something like that. I'd be so scared.
And then they fall so dramatically.
And I saw a contestant talk about, like, how they're like, did you have to, like, bake and be dramatic?
Like, no, but they told you if your unaliving was more dramatic, you'd have a better chance of it airing.
Because someone went, like, they were like, I would do the same thing.
Especially when there's, like, what, 400, almost 400 contestants or whatever.
Like, you have to stand out somehow even that's why like i'm watching it but i'm not like so into it because they don't like give in
all the other shows like big brother or like survival stuff you get to like know contestants
in like roof room and then this one you don't really get to know anyone they're all like you
don't know anyone's names all the numbers i don't know names or numbers i could tell you like certain
people like oh the one who bonded with the old man or something you know like i kind of know that but
that's all I know.
I don't know anything else.
It's hard to get so invested in it.
It's kind of a weird
little show. Not to bring up
Mr. Beast. It's like a drink game.
Bolognese, Scotty Sire, Mr. Beast.
Didn't Mr. Beast do? Yes, he did.
Did they rip him off?
They have the Squid Game IP.
How was he able to do that?
Mr. Beast?
I have no idea.
It was just kind of like a parody kind of thing, I guess.
Yeah.
Why is it called Squid Games?
I watched the show, but I forget why it was called Squid Game.
I have no idea.
Is it good?
Is it in English or subtitles?
It's subtitles, but you can have the option to make it dubbed in English.
Oh.
But the dub isn't that good
so it's like
the acting isn't as good
in like the English.
Oh, okay.
Which is weird.
Like how can you not find
a good English actor
or American speaking actor?
Yeah, to like
I guess it's hard to like
for some random person
to come in
and like do the voice
to someone who's actually
there acting.
Right.
I feel like I'd be good at it.
We'd both be good at that I think.
I don't think so.
I can't even act
so I don't think I would do.
I think you're an amazing actor.
No, I definitely can't. I just, I'm not good. I'd love to be an actress.
I'm just not good at it. I think you're better than you think. I've never done it. I've never
done it professionally or anything, so I don't know. I've never been cast as a lead in a play,
so I have no idea if I'm good. I assume I'm not because I'm not casted. No, see, I think if you
were in a, say like White Lotus or anything really, I think that you would see, you would
just become the character.
So it wouldn't even be acting.
Like you'd be lost in the role, which would be like – it would be good acting.
I can do that.
But you wouldn't think that you're acting.
I would be – I think I would be the method actor.
I think I would be the one that people are like scared of.
You know what I mean?
Much like Abel on The Idol because Lily Rose was like he would get into method acting.
I'd be scared of him.
I think that would be me.
I think I would like think I'm that person because I kind of think I'm like that person. And White Lotus would be perfect because honestly,
if I just play someone like myself, it would be just the best. You know what I mean? If you need
like a podcast host on the show or something like that, I would be so amazing. I just saw Mike White
in something else. There was a clip and he was in it. Oh God, I can't think of what it was, but
he's been in everything. I would love to be on that show. I don't think it's going to happen.
I think it's because I'm pregnant. I don't think about any other reason.
Hey, season four.
Season four. I'm pregnant again. We're dang. I think it's because I'm pregnant. I don't think you've got any other reason. It's season four. Season four.
I'm pregnant again.
We're dating too and done
but I always feel like
when you say that
then there's like a third
that just pops along.
Surprise.
I don't know, man.
It's crazy, yeah.
But yeah, the Squid Game.
I watched it
because it was all over TikTok
so I was like,
all right, let's watch it.
I heard a lot of contestants
got like hypothermia and stuff, right?
And they're like
trying to sue Netflix.
Which is like,
I don't think they can because it's like, I feel like these shows.
You sign your life away.
Literally.
I remember, I think Celebrity Brothers, like if you die, it's like you can't sue us.
I think there's like, you, they literally.
So I don't think they can do that.
I mean, and also like the food, there wasn't like a lot of food and stuff like that.
Because I know Love is Blind was getting sued because of that same situation.
Like they weren't fed or.
I wonder how they found all these people.
Like just casting.
I know.
There's a lot of like OF boys.
Oh.
Yeah.
I think they're on there to promote it.
The magazine, the polyester one, they did an interview and like the title is like Trish
talks about OF, this and that.
And I'm like, I'm trying.
I really think I'm going to end it soon.
And not for any reason.
It was a good run, you know.
But I think I'm going to end it soon.
Like I said, I'm manifesting a TV show.
So I think it's like time to put that to rest.
And I think it's going to be in my TV talk show eras. I just got to make sure I get that TV show and secure the bag. You know what I mean?
Because I'll beg if that was like surviving for a minute. But I think I'm ready to close that
chapter because I mean, so many people ask me about interviews and like today in the polyester
one, like one of the top thing was Trisha talks, oh, I have this. And I was like, that's not like,
I mean, it's fine. I don't mind talking about it or whatever, but I'm like, that's the title.
And it's like, I just don't, I don't know if I want that association anymore. You know what? And again, it was so great.
And like, it's up for the time being.
But yeah, I don't know.
You know, it's a weird thing when you like evolve from that.
Or at least, I don't know, just in general.
I know, like I said, who made, who was it?
Who made, oh, Iggy Azalea made like $50 million on those.
Did you see that?
It was Iggy Azalea made like $50 million.
And like Cardi B made like $ 80 million or something in one year.
I was like, well, I mean, I'd keep mine up if I was making 50 million a year. That's crazy. Or
the bad baby making like 15 million a month. I'm like, what are they doing on there? It's wild.
It's crazy. But, and it is good. Like it is good for so many people. It's really good. Like money,
like you said, for like people who that would post that stuff anyways, if you're going to post
sexy stuff anyways. And that's kind of how I always saw it.
I was like, well, I used to just post like nudes for free on Twitter or whatever like that.
So I was like this is a good way to make money or whatever and it is good.
But I think there's a new chapter, a new era of Trish coming and I think it's going to be daytime talk show Trish.
And I'm ready for a daytime Emmy.
Yes.
Oh, I really need to bring my Emmy.
I keep forgetting.
Oh, that's right.
Woo, these pantyhose.
Okay, sorry.
Let me just do that.
Squeezing my baby, I think. Oh, my gosh. That's right. Woo, these pantyhose. Okay, sorry. Let me just do that. Squeezing my baby, I think.
Oh, my gosh.
That's wild.
I was running in my JCPenney TikTok and everyone's like, baby Elvis, like a little emoji shake face.
I was like, I know.
Poor baby in there.
I love that.
It was giving me very Hunger Games when you were running.
I felt like I was in Hunger Games.
I was out of breath.
I was actually running.
I was so scared.
I film myself because there's always, I think, people following me, but there's people
around.
So I'm like, just in case, I want them to know that I'm filming.
And in case something does go down, I can just pan over.
You know what I mean?
I'm always ready to film with something, especially at the Northridge Mall.
I didn't know about that.
That's crazy.
No one talked about the Black Friday.
Yeah, I don't think anyone got hurt.
Okay, that's good.
But yeah, there was like, because you know, I get the crime alerts. So I saw. Oh, you hurt. Okay, that's good. It was – but yeah, there was like – because you know I get the crime alerts, so I saw – yeah.
Oh, you saw – that's like –
I get all the tea.
Casey Neistat was an impulsive – do you want to talk about more David Dobrik news or are we over David Dobrik?
Oh, yeah.
What was it?
Did he talk about the document –
No, I saw a little bit of a headline though.
Was it about the – did he say something about the documentary or something?
First of all, let's just be clear.
I don't really care for Casey Neistat, so I don't want to sound any sort of bias on this.
But he's a little bit of a flip-flopper.
All of a sudden, he's doing press again for this documentary.
It's the same one that came out at South by Southwest
a couple years ago, and
he's doing all this press for it, or kind of
press about it, and hyping it up and stuff like that,
but he's like, oh, I don't know if I want to release it. He's saying it's not about
the check, because basically, I think Mike asked him,
he's like, oh, if it's the right money. He's like, oh, I don't even care about the money.
So people are like, okay, then release it on your YouTube channel
that has 10 million subscribers, but he's like, no, if it's like the right money. He's like, oh, I don't even care about the money. So people are like, okay, so then release it on your YouTube channel. It has like 10 million subscribers. But he's like, no, I want, he wants like CNN or like a news thing to like pick it up
and be like CNN presents like this David Dobrik thing. And he's like, he doesn't care about the
money, but I'm like, so, and then on the other hand, I saw this is like the cow and he, I think
David, or I think Casey Neistat admitted this. I think he called himself a coward, which I always
love when people can admit that they're a coward, Colleen. I always think that's like self-aware
somewhat. So I was like, all right, I'll give him some points for admitting that.
So he said he was kind of coward because he says he still really likes David. He really
valued their friendship. And he's like, this does, it just shows both sides. He's like,
I show like there's victims. Oh, so basically he was saying there's like victims of that
that haven't even come out yet. That's not public. They haven't made their stories public
that reached out to him. And he kind of like shared their stories and David could all ties
off with him. Like once he knew that this documentary wasn't just like a fluff piece, because originally
I think it was just like Casey said, it was just about the rise.
He never saw anyone so rise so quickly as David and he was his friend.
So he was just there.
And then the victims came forward, the first one, the case about Dom and all that stuff
that first came forward.
So he's like filming that.
Then of course the Jeff incident and stuff like that, he was kind of filming that.
And so I guess there's like victims that people haven't heard from that I think stay anonymous
in the documentary, but he's like, I want their stories heard and they want their stories out
there. Cause I think Mike or Logan then asked like, well, what do they want? Like what,
what are the victims want? You know, David's kind of already had like a downfall and he's like,
he's just to get their stories heard basically. But he, Casey doesn't want to put it out unless
a news organization picks it up. And so everyone's like,
okay, well then you're just saying, you say you don't want the money, but it's basically for the
money. And then on the other hand, he's like, oh, I'm a coward about it. And it's like, well,
okay, I didn't, I guess just say that, but it's weird. He's like on this kind of like, like I said,
doing this like the press tour about it. And I don't know if he's just, again, trying to get it
out there. So a news company like Hulu picks it up or something. I'm not sure, but no one's seen
it. Cause I think it was only at South by Southwest and there's no way to pay for it or anything like that. So I would like to
see it. I would like to see it. Cause I, and I guess he's just like, as a filmmaker, he's like,
he's not in it. Casey's like not in it. He's literally just making the film. So I was like,
wow, you put all that work into it, but it does kind of like, I don't know the fact that he says
he still like likes David and wishes that he could be friends and talk and stuff like that.
It is kind of weird. It's like, okay, so you know the stories of these other victims that
were hurt by him. Maybe he wants David to buy it. Oh, right. Like buy him out. Because he's now
selling the movie. That's what he's doing. He's trying to still sell it and say how sensational
it is. It's going to hurt his relationship. So the price goes up. That's true. That's interesting.
Oh, because he says, he says in the interview. He's selling it. Basically, he's out there to
sell it. That's what he's doing now.
Yeah. I would love to buy it. I wish I could buy it.
If we win the lottery.
Yeah, if I win the lottery.
Just church presents.
Oh, yeah. I want to know the story because he says, and he actually says, he's like,
David and Natalie, they're not victims. He makes it very clear, which a lot of people don't know
that either about Natalie. She's also very calculated and cold and conniving and all of
that stuff like that. I can say that 100 hundred percent. I think anyone can attest to that a hundred percent. And I just, it would be
very interesting because I know other people too that have, you know, David Dobrik stories and like
the horror they went through or the trauma they went through. It was on some of those videos,
you know, and they just haven't come forward. So I would be interested to know who is on there
and their stories. And I think it's just important in general to get it out there. I think that's
kind of ick of Casey Neistat. Like you have these stories, you know, they want their
voices heard. You can be unbiased enough to like share their story. You know, you're not, you're
not promoting it or you're just saying this is what's happened and you're not putting it out
there. I think that's kind of ick. Cause it's like, these are the more people who come forward,
the more justice can be done. You know what I mean? Because there's really nothing that has
been done. David hasn't fallen. David left YouTube on his own accord. He's making a
million dollars on Snapchat a month or more probably. And it's just like, yeah, the other
blog squad people or whatever, they've all fallen, whatever, but they're not the core.
Like David is the core. David is the one whose like responsibility it was to have safety people
on call. Like he's a production, he's making millions of dollars a month. Like he should have
had, you know, all the resources in place and, you know, making sure everyone's
protected and stuff like that, because you are at this point responsible for people and you put
them on your, he would film just random people, like just random people and like put them on his
vlog. And it's, it's so, but that to me is also really weird and bizarre. Cause like, even when
I'm at the drive-thru or something, I never would ever have my camera on someone else just to assume
that they'd want to be in the vlogs. And even if they did want to be in the vlogs, like a lot of times
they were drinking. You can't consent when you're drinking or, you know, you're underage. You can't
consent when you're underage, even if you're a kid, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know.
I think it's, I think it's weird that he put so many people's faces out there and not more has
been done, like more lawsuits or legal action, because it is like you're monetizing off them
and profiting off them. And then also making like a mockery of them where it's just out there forever, you know? So I was kind of surprised more people
haven't come forward about that stuff. You know, like I never signed a release. I never consented
to like half the stuff on there. And granted it's different. I was an influencer and I was
benefiting off of it. So it's like a little different. I was like consenting obviously,
whether it was whatever to be on it, but so many people weren't. So that's what I always think is
like kind of bizarre that he got away with so much. And then there's trauma. There's people who just
like suffered like mental trauma. And then there's some people who've had like physical trauma or
like physical or like lost their jobs or like lost, you know, whatever, couldn't get a job
after that. I don't know. There's so many things. I don't know what his angle is. Casey, I never
just like his vibes. I've met, like I've been in his like, what would you call it? Vicinity.
I've been in his vision, like, you know, multiple times, like I've been in his, like, what would you call it? Vicinity. I've been
in his vision, like, you know, multiple times, like, you know, a handful of times and never
has acknowledged me ever. And again, people will be like, okay, there's not everyone has to
acknowledge you. I get that. But when there's like a setting of like five people, then you say hi to
every single person, but the female did always gave me bad vibes. You know what I mean? Not
calling him a misogynist, but you know, just, I don't know. He was kind of weird. Never looked
at me, never even made eye contact. Like there could be three, it could be me, David and like Jason and like just never made
eye contact with me. Like as if I didn't exist, it was very bizarre. And again, it's not anything
I take personal. It's not like I'm a big Casey Neistat fan or anything like that, but the vibes,
you know, you just know, sometimes you're just like, that's a weird vibe. And I always said
about him, I always like, again, gives me weird vibes. On one hand, I do think he's like talented,
obviously. He's a big YouTuber and he, he films stuff really cool. And like, you know know, I think it's kind of weird that he's like, like you said, it is kind
of interesting that he's trying to be like, well, you know, this could ruin David's career
and David won't talk to me because of it.
But I don't know.
And I want a news organization.
I don't want money, but I want it to be CNN.
Like, I don't know.
I mean, he's first most is a great businessman.
Yeah.
Bigger than being a big YouTuber.
He's a big businessman and he done a lot of great business.
But there's a point where documentary documents things that has to do with alleged crimes at that
point it has to change it has nothing to do anymore with how much you're getting paid or
whatever you have to put it out yeah for some people to see at least to get a better understanding
of what happened yeah it's also like integrity these people are trusting you with their story
and you have this story and they want their story out there. Like there is a certain, like if someone came to me
and was like, I need to tell my story and your place is the place to do it. I was like, okay,
well then yeah, come tell it. I have the platform for it. And he has the platform.
He has enough respect from people like of all in all genres that would watch it and listen.
And it could help so many people that like have their stories and maybe they weren't validated or people wrote it off as drama or them seeking a paycheck. I mean, even Jeff was
accused of like doing all this for like a paycheck and for whatever. I'm just like, it's so bizarre
to me. And I think it's, and he still gets it. I saw it on our podcast too. People still are like,
oh, these people are so like thirsty. They're still like bringing this up for money and views
and stuff like that. It's like, this is like a traumatic, especially Jeff. I mean, he had like
this traumatic life-changing thing that like changed his whole life.
And someone took zero accountability.
Not only did he take zero accountability, they were kind of making sure like, okay,
don't, you know, with the editing of his documentary and just still like manipulating
it and like, okay, don't put this out.
And just controlling this like narrative is crazy.
Or also just making him look like it was his fault.
Like it's, it's beyond like victim shaming.
It's almost just like they're, they became this,
like, it's like monsters. It's like this really crazy thing where they're like redoing this
narrative and Casey saying all this stuff and teasing all this stuff and having stories of like
other victims. It's like, put it out. Like just, you have 10 million subscribers on your YouTube,
like put it out. People are going to watch it. You can monetize it if that's what you're looking
for. Like, I just, I'm so confused by the whole whole he wants a news outlet to do it like like you said maybe he's
just baiting to try to get money from david or something i'm not sure yeah and he wants to be the
big producer director and it's like a level when like if he's saying like a cnn or something it
just is like a like a flex kind of thing you know it's like i think that's a lot of a complex a lot
of youtubers like have to get like that validation from like traditional media and especially like a flex kind of thing, you know? It's like, I think that's a lot of, a complex, a lot of YouTubers like have to get like that validation
from like traditional media
and especially like a filmmaker vibe,
like a Casey, I can see like the desire
to kind of break out and to be taken seriously
as like a filmmaker, documentarian, whatever it is.
But yeah, I don't like that.
To tease it and like hype it up
by using like other people's trauma like and you're
kind of like back that would be like if you had the gypsy rose exclusive and you're like oh she
told me all this stuff but you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna post it she told me what really
happened blah blah blah but until cnn comes and pays me or hbo like i'm not gonna yeah you have
kind of like a moral obligation at some point. Definitely. If you're including like victims and you're using them to like make your documentary better.
I support it.
I support the documentary.
I think it should just be released.
I'm just kind of like, I don't know.
I kind of forgot about it too because it was so long ago.
Definitely.
That's what I'm saying.
Everyone's saying that too.
They're like, it's so long ago.
Like, you know, bringing this up again seems kind of odd if you're not releasing it.
But maybe he's just like you said, fishing and like hoping someone buys it and pays for
it.
But at this point, just put it out.
Like you made the movie.
It's done.
No one is picking it up.
So just put it out yourself.
And it could be huge.
Like on, you know, I think Paris Hilton has like a documentary that's like 100 million
views or something, you know?
So it could be a huge thing.
David O'Brien is a monster.
So I feel like he should be, this is another one that should be, it is, it is frustrating
sometimes to like see people just like,
because again, there's cancellations and there's, you know, problematic pasts and stuff like that.
But it's like, then there's people who've like actually hurt, there's people that they've hurt.
There's like, there's people. And when you've done that and it's just, you take, there's no
justice. In fact, you're just bigger or you make more money or whatever. It's probably so
frustrating for those people. You know, you're just like, what the hell? Like I, you altered my
whole life or I can't like work because of you. And I don't
know, especially like Jeff's different. He's an influencer and he can, you know, he's, you know,
obviously it was bad what happened, but he can like make money and do all this stuff. But these
other victims who are not looking for a paycheck or views or, you know, they can't, like I said,
I always think you should, should be able to monetize. Like Jeff, like this has affected
his whole life. Like talk about it forever, write a book about it, do a movie about it because like
you should. But then there's people who just don't have those
platforms or don't have a desire to, and they're really benefiting nothing. You know, they really
just got hurt in the shit end of it while this other person gets money and stuff like that.
So I don't know. I'd have a lot more respect for Casey if he put it out there. You know what I
mean? Even if I like didn't like him, like I still want to watch it. You know what I mean? I still
want to see it. Maybe send me a link. I think he offered to send Keemstar a link back in the day.
And I was like, well, send me a link. I want to see it. I want to watch it. You know what I mean? I still want to see it. Maybe send me a link. I think he offered to send Keemstar a link back in the day. And I was like,
well, send me a link. I want to see it. I want to see it. You know, I don't know.
I'm very, like everything that happened with the vlog squad, like the rise and fall was so
fast. And like, there's such like a whiplash there that it's still like very, very interesting. And
like, I get why people are still kind of like fascinated in a way.
Definitely. I think it's just, it's always one of those things where you just – yeah.
Because they were just so massive.
They were so big, so massive.
And then it's just like I don't know where they all go, what happened.
It really is insane.
It's so insane.
Like I don't know.
They ran.
They ran the freaking show.
They got me good.
Yeah.
They got – I had the clickbait merge.
I was in it.
David was like my number one crush for a long time.
I was, like, fully –
Oh, my God.
When I, like, originally, like, left that group and I started talking about David, oh, my God.
I got so much hate.
That 2019 was, like, the worst year ever.
Everyone hated me for, like – it was crazy.
It was so bizarre.
I felt like I was in crazy land and stuff like that for, like, you know, going out of the friend group and stuff.
Even their friend group, like, group messages I would see. And I would just be like, they were
so, they're so culty. Like don't, you know, Trisha's this, that stuff you hear, you're just
like, oh my God, it's so crazy. And then the hearing some insight from Jeff too. I'm like,
oh, it's so, it's so fascinating how like they alienate you. But also their audience like
attacked me so much. It was so crazy. And I was like, now there's no audience. There's no like
vlog squad fan. And I'm like, wow, that's crazy how the turntable. Yeah, that's the theme of the episode.
That is the theme of the episode. And yeah, I never like wish for anyone's downfall, especially
like the supporting players. You know what I mean? It's like they, that's all they had. And
though they rode the wave and, you know, with the exception of Scotty, who's very talented and good
looking, the other ones didn't have much to fall back on. So I feel bad.
You never want to see someone's downfall.
I wish they could have parlayed it.
And maybe they invested really big and they're living large.
I don't know.
We don't know.
The other day I went to go see.
What does everyone kind of like up to?
Did you?
But yeah.
I mean, there are some that have really successful podcasts, and then they have some that are
I know.
I know where you're going.
I wish them all well. I know where you're going.
I wish them all well.
I hope everyone has monetary blessings.
They maybe need to manifest it.
Go buy a lot of tickets.
You know what I mean?
There's no shame in some game.
Or there's no shame.
I saw David kind of recently and I was kind of gagged.
I was like – Horror nights?
Over the spring.
It was like spring break.
I saw him at an event.
At a fashion show.
Oh.
Yeah.
He was –
That's why it's so – like he still gets a lot of brand deals.
Like he was paid to come to this event.
Yeah.
No.
That's the thing.
It's like he never fell.
He like chose to get off YouTube and then kind of found other ways.
I don't know.
I'm so far removed from it.
Like nothing about David appeals.
Like I have no curiosity at all.
Like what is – oh, what's he posting on Snapchat?
Oh, what's his pizza?
Like I just – to me it's just boring, which maybe is the best way to be, but they all were boring.
And then David now really is just like boring, but I think he's just being like low key and trying to be hiding from everything because he knows his time's coming.
Like if there are more victims, if there's more stories coming out, like be held accountable.
Like take some accountability.
And like honestly, I don't even know.
I don't know how he didn't go to jail over Jeff.
Like, you know, it's crazy.
Like I guess that person has to press charges and he didn't or something like that. But that's like, I don't even know I don't know how he didn't go to jail over Jeff like you know it's crazy like I guess that person has to press charges and he didn't or something like that but that's like like I don't know it's it's actually some of the stuff he does
is insane also he would like drive so fast I'm surprised he's never gone to jail like he's just
so reckless and stuff with his like life so anyways hope he takes accountability somehow
always comes back around you know what I mean like I know the David's always a little like
I'm so far removed from it so so it really doesn't affect me.
I look at it as an outside perspective as if I don't know them because I truly don't.
I'm just like I don't know those people anymore.
But anyone defending him too, side eye.
I guess I'm just easily influenced because I was hardcore for that boy.
That's crazy.
What was it? Isn't that wild?
I mean he was charming.
I guess you were the gateway because I didn't start watching until you.
So yeah, it is kind of you.
I'm so sorry.
That's always the worst when I'm like I found this person through you. I gateway because I didn't start watching until you. So, yeah, it is kind of you. I'm so sorry. That's always the worst when they're like, I found this person through you.
I'm like, I apologize.
Yeah, oops.
That's wild.
That's so funny.
People have said that.
I'm like, that's crazy to me.
I mean, I was kind of a big deal before David.
I think because it's so brocoded, but then you were like the gateway for like girlies and gays, I think.
I was the gateway.
Yeah.
You were the gateway.
Definitely.
Yeah.
It is.
It's funny.
Whenever I'm paired with people, people like know
me for like being associated with people at certain times. And I'm like, I was big before
David. I wasn't really big before Shane. Shane was like the first one to put me up like that.
But like, I was friends with Shane who was like the biggest YouTuber from like 2007 to like 2012
or something like that. So David kind of like took over that. And then I was like friends with him
and stuff like that. But it's like Shane kind of put me on the map. And then David, I was, I'm sorry, I wasn't a blog squad member. I was like a star,
you know what I mean? Like I was, I was like a, I was here as like a co-star, you know,
I wasn't like a blog squad. I was, I was a big YouTuber in this mix, you know what I mean? And
like Tana and Casey and all those people, they would come through, but they weren't there like
day in, day out, you know what I mean? I was like really, really made those vlogs, I think,
because I feel like he had his pop-off era when I was there, you know what I mean? I think he was
big a little bit. I'd never heard of him before, but feel like he had his pop-off era when I was there. You know what I mean? That's true. I think he was big a little bit.
I'd never heard of him before, but, like, he was kind of big.
Because 2017 is when I met them.
And then I feel like 2018 was, like, their year.
And that was the year I was in it.
That was when everything exploded.
Because, I mean, that year was, like, the streamies year.
And, you know, it all kind of, like, became a whole thing after that.
Yeah.
And I really like to think I was a big part of that.
Because I honestly swear, hand a Bible, never heard of the vlog swap
before I met them. Like, no idea.
Me too, like, not even just because I'm here, but like
genuinely, like, that was the
reason I just got, I was like, oh, I kind of, I wanted to see
more of Trisha, so then I went to, like,
because you would get, like, your perspective a little bit,
and then it would do, like, you know, the edited,
like, ha ha ha ha ha vlog.
Right, the super bad. And again, I mean, that's
what I'm saying, like, I know I'm the star.
This is why the show works, because I know I'm the star, but I was always bad at editing.
Like, I don't edit myself.
But I think the edit makes me, it emphasizes my stardom.
You know what I mean?
So, like, obviously David was good at editing, you know, but I was the star.
It's not like people are tuning in for David.
They're tuning in for David's edits and fast-paced thing.
And, like, it was me in the scenes.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, and David's not even the star
of his own vlog either. No. That's what's
so messed up is like everyone else and that's
why I feel bad for his little Vlogs to have members when they fall because
they were kind of the stars of the vlog too and
they didn't get paid and yes, they got
some subscribers here and there but once David stopped
appearing in their videos and like no one cared and stuff like that so it's like
they should have gotten paid for it. Then they wouldn't be falling
off. You know what I mean? They could have like saved their money
or something like that but yeah um yeah i guess
corinna's doing good she like made a bunch of oh yeah yeah she was like killing it i heard she
like bought a private jet she never liked me but i like i just think she's pretty i think she's so
pretty yeah yeah i don't like no to me she's out of all of them like the most mysterious like i
feel like i know the least about corinna yeah because she just even when she was like in her – doing her bits and stuff, like her bits were really what?
About like Tati or whatever?
Like I don't know.
It was never like her.
Her personality.
Which is smart.
I think like keeping that like facade is kind of like smart.
You know what I mean?
So people don't know too much about you.
She still supports David, which is like annoying.
Oh, does she?
Oh, yeah.
I saw she did like a TikTok with him a couple months ago or something.
I mean I guess that's just – that's how she came up.
But she could do fine without him now.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Do you think she would make more than David?
I kind of think maybe.
I feel like maybe too from what I've heard from her like OF and stuff like that, which is crazy.
Man, some of these OF girls really got it.
They really got their bag.
I thought I got a bag, but they got a bag.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
I've never made $15 million in a month.
Like that's wild.
Wild. That's wild. That's amazing. I think it's so good for them though. I was never made $15 million in a month. Like that's wild.
That's wild.
That's amazing.
I think it's so good for them though.
I was like, that's really cool.
Off your body.
Like that's what's so – I think that's what's empowering is like literally just your body, which costs you absolutely nothing and you're just like showing it.
And some people show just in a bikini.
Some people don't even show the whole thing.
I'm like, that's amazing.
Like that's so cool.
Like your body just made you $15 million just being art.
Yeah.
I like that.
That's why, like, OF, at least, like, the creator, not even just women, like, any creator
has, like, the autonomy over, like, what they show, what they don't show, what they create,
what they post, you know?
So it is kind of like – and you have people who are willing to – the hard-earned coins
spend a lot.
Oh, no.
I've always – that's one thing I've always been appreciative of like OF and the people on there is like,
yeah, they're spending like money to like see this.
And I appreciate that because they're not stealing it.
They're not pirating it, which now it's like it's hard to do because like I have a site
that like clears that.
Like they look for the stuff like that, but the people who try to pirate it or whatever
like that, I'm like, ugh.
But the people who pay for it, support it, like I think that's amazing, you know?
And I think that's like they're supporting art.
They're supporting the person, keeping the economy stimulated, the flow.
I love all of it. I think that's like so – I think that's good karma're supporting art. They're supporting the person, keeping the economy stimulated, the flow.
I love all of it.
I think that's like so – I think that's good karma for you if you're like supporting your local model.
Like that's good.
Financial karma, when you put it out, it comes back to you.
You're supporting them.
You'll get it back to you.
I like it.
I'm about it.
And I think like you said, it's safe.
People are online.
People are in control of their own pages for the most part.
Yeah.
You can then show what you want to show and don't show what you want to show. And it's cool. It's important.
Like someone like me would never have been able to make money off like my naked body,
like off Playboy or traditional, you know, adult stuff, you know, like that. But because of OF,
there's an audience that wanted to see it that mainstream people would never know about. So I'm appreciative. I've always appreciated it. It literally has been my biggest income my entire life. It's like crazy. Like in one year and only on OF, I made what I made for like 10
years on YouTube. So it's a blessing. It's so cool. It's, it's, but I think there's a new chapter
coming. Not yet. I still need it now, but there will be a chapter coming, coming soon. I'm
manifesting that. Did you see the drama between Corinina and like another OF girl? Oh, I did.
That was so...
Yeah.
With Brecky Hill copying,
like literally copying Karina's Instagram post.
What team are you on?
What team are you on?
I think I've seen Karina by default, right?
Because it's like, I mean,
to copy someone's exact pose on Instagram
and then their exact caption.
Yeah.
But I'm almost like if she's trolling, if Brekkie Hill is trolling by, like, copying
Karina, then I'm like, that's kind of camp, I guess.
I don't think she's trolling.
I think she wants to probably be like Karina.
Like, you know, she looks up to her.
It's like me with Pamela Anderson or anyone, you know?
So you just steal their poses.
So I think she was just probably doing it for sure.
But I do, and I love Karina.
But I do think it maybe was, like, a little weird to call.
Like, is it that important to call someone out? You know know I think it's funny if I call out Kim Kardashian for copying
me because like clearly she's not or whatever like who cares but it's like funny but it's like
this little this smaller or I don't know she's smaller but I'm assuming she's a little smaller
than Karina like calling her out who obviously is like looking up to you in some way it's one
thing if she was like I don't know stealing your content stealing your merch ideas but like stealing
a pose and a caption like does it really affect your Instagram? You know, because Corinna gets like a million likes.
She gets so many likes.
She's not losing anything.
Yeah.
And I would never have known this brekkie girl.
Like, I didn't know anything about her.
And to me, they all look the same.
Corinna does stand out to me.
Corinna is like a one of a kind.
So I thought it was kind of weird that she would like call her out.
It's also like, is this the most important thing happening?
You know, it's not like she's on a podcast talking about it to monetize it.
You know, it's like, yeah, we talk about stupid stuff stuff on here but it's like we're monetizing it you know what
i mean she's just like calling her out just to call her out i don't know it's kind of weird i
guess that's like her art so if someone's like plagiarizing your art i think that's the only
thing i can like equate it to even though it seems like so silly and unserious i guess it would be
annoying if someone like if you made a song and then someone's kind of like copying your song or
whatever you know that's happened to me for sure this girl i don't don't even want to, it sounds, that's what I'm saying.
It just sounds bad when you say it because I had a girl copy my music video to the exact
concept, the location.
She got my music video director, my choreographer, my hairstylist.
She did the exact same ponytail I had in Fat Chicks, like literally down to a T.
And I was, I was, oh, at the time I was so pissed at my director, at my choreographer,
at the hairstylist.
My hairstylist giving her my exact pony.
And I was like, what? Like she copied everything to a T and it bothered me for so long. But like,
where am I going to talk about this? Where am I going to say it? And why? Like, what's the point?
And it does, it's so annoying because Fat Chicks, I do feel was relatively original,
like as far as my hair. And I thought it was like an original idea to me. So I was a little bit
annoyed that she like took every single little detail that I had and like style. Oh, there was like solid color walls behind me in that same video. So she did basically the same
video with a different song and it wasn't like an homage or anything like that. I'm not Britney
Spears. I'm not My Chemical Romance. You know what I mean? So it was this very weird thing and I was
like so annoyed and I was, it is annoying. It's annoying. So I get it. But it's also like there's
people dying. You know what I mean? Like I just, I don't know. Like even back then when I was like
feisty, I didn't even make a video about it
because I was like, I don't know.
This person's, like, lesser in the sense of, like,
lesser views and not a big audience.
No one's really going to see it.
Like, am I going to bring attention to this?
Yeah.
You know, it's frustrating, but.
Now that you say that, I do feel bad
because now everyone's, like, commenting
on, like, Brekkie's Instagram saying, like,
it's not an original thought, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So now she's getting a lot of heat too.
So I do kind of feel bad. Yeah. But it's also, like, is it that hard to change up the caption a little bit? Yeah, yeah. You can do that. Yeah, like, it's not an original thought, blah, blah, blah, blah. So now she's getting a lot of heat, too. So I do kind of feel bad.
Yeah.
But it's also, like, is it that hard to change up the caption a little bit?
Yeah, yeah.
You can just switch it up a little bit.
Is it hot in here or is it just me?
Was that the caption?
Yeah.
Corinna had that caption.
But then there's that argument, like, is it that original?
Literally.
That's the other thing, too.
Like, is it hot in here?
Did I have to come and say it?
But Frankie was copying, like, even, like, the emoji usage, too.
Oh, that's wild.
So same emojis. Yeah. I think she just looks up to her i totally get kind of being annoyed like it is
annoying and then people copy me to a t but i don't know it's like a little the person's looking
up to you i guess people usually call it out too like if you're trying to be like there's people
who try to be like me you know what i mean people will say like oh she's trying to be like trish or
something so i don't really have to call it out yeah it's fine and i try to be like everybody so
i'm like the last person to copy.
Well, they copied me.
Okay.
I copied someone else, I'm sure.
But yeah.
You start seeing me copying Brooke's Instagram captions.
Then there's some fun to it.
I feel like there is something funny.
I think someone else did that too where they were like, they were copying someone's like
captions.
Maybe it was like Kylie.
I've seen people do it or whatever where they copy exactly everything.
I think it's funny.
It's kind of funny.
Yeah.
And I guess I take it as a compliment, I guess, if someone's trying to copy you.
And I don't think it affects Corona, but.
Brecky, if you need some help writing captions, I'll write you a little joke.
That's nice.
Dang.
Oh, my God.
Like the hot tub picture.
So they both had a photo in a hot, like a hot tub.
Be like.
What would you have posted?
What was the caption they had?
Is it hot in here or is it just me?
I'd be like, come take a dip.
I don't know.
Come take a dip.
We'll workshop it.
We'll workshop it.
I would put, they're in a jacuzzi.
I would be like, this turkey is all hot and bothered.
Come stuff me.
That's good.
I mean, it kind of works if they're hot and bothered.
Maybe it's like something more like I'm hot and bothered.
But what if it's not Thanksgiving?
Oh, I thought it was Thanksgiving.
I thought it was a Thanksgiving.
Maybe it was.
Okay.
Okay.
No.
Don't do that.
Then you just say, hot and bothered. Who wants to, I don't know. I'm so
bad. I'm so bad at captions. I might be the worst, but you're so good. Like you're so,
you come up with all our titles. Like it always, I'm always shocked with the rest of people when
I see the titles. I'm always just like, ah, okay. Like at first it scared me because I was,
I remember when we started this podcast, I'm like, I am, I've been, I was in my two year sabbatical of like being drama free. I was like, I'm, this is not a drama
podcast. This is just fun. And then like, it was like, Trisha exposes this. I was like, ah.
I love those little words. It's so, it's so silly.
At this point, I'm just like, whatever. Just post literally anything. Cause it's, it is,
it's, I don't even, I had to like, I just don't look. I'm like, oh, it sounds like so
aggressive, but you know it.
You get it.
You get the clicks.
You get the views.
You're very good at it.
We'll workshop it, Brecky, though.
We got you.
Brecky.
What a great name.
That is Brecky Hill.
That's a good name.
Brecky Hill?
Yeah.
Like Brecky is cute.
It's unique.
Like breakfast.
Ooh, a little Brecky.
Love it.
Yeah.
Okay, I love it.
She was cute.
Brecky is the most important meal of the day.
Oh.
Oh.
That should be her tagline in her bio.
You can have that for free, Brecky.
I got you.
That's such a good one.
That's good.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That one.
Oh, Brecky.
Okay, Brecky killing it.
I mean, people are probably going to go search Brecky now and publicity.
And then her big comeback post, like Brecky's reputation era, she could be like, I'm not
a coffee cat.
Like Corinna.
Oh my God.
That's so good.
More like that. I love it. I'm not a coffee cat. I'm going to like message my god, that's so good. Oh, I like that.
I love it. I'm not a copycat.
I'm gonna like message her. I'm like, girl.
I love that. Oh my god.
I love everyone and their eras. Everyone's doing eras now. James Charles and the eras.
Oh my god, the James Charles era.
Did you see Colleen's era
birthday party? No.
She had an eras birthday. The whole theme
was eras. Was it her heiress?
Or Taylor heiress? It was Taylor.
And a lot of Swifties were like, don't use Taylor as
your comeback, as your way in.
The Swifties don't mess around.
No, that's what we can see right through it.
We see right through it. I saw the cake.
I didn't know this was her. Oh, really?
Yeah. Oh, my God.
Stop trying
to be cool. Oh, my God. You trying to be cool. Oh, my God.
You know, there's some people that just annoy you.
Everything they do.
It's like, stop.
I wouldn't even do that.
I know.
I thought it was for, like, her kids or something.
I was like, is this, like, her birthday?
At your big age.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
No, it's – there's so many crazy things.
I think when someone's, like, an awful person, like, everything they do is just, like, cringey.
That's true, yeah.
But then it's, like – then you try to do something mainstream.
You're like, stop.
You know what I mean?
Low Anthony's not for me.
Speaking of YouTubers. Oh, my God. That's great. No, it's like – then you try to do something mainstream. You're like, stop. You know what I mean? Low Anthony is not R-me. Speaking of YouTubers.
Oh, my god.
That's great.
No, it's sad.
Wait, is it sad?
Wait, why?
Because he –
Wait, is it?
Yeah, because he like –
Oh.
He went through like conversion therapy and stuff.
Oh.
Yeah.
So there's a lot.
He's like –
Wait, is he – did he convert?
Is he back to straight?
Yeah.
He like – it was a couple years ago.
Like he kind of like disappeared off the internet and then it came out that he is like homophobic now actually.
And like he went through like conversion therapy and like he's like all about – he's like very, very religious but like extreme almost.
No.
Wait.
Yeah.
What is conversion therapy?
Like what do they do in it?
It's basically – it's just like it gets in your head that like homosexuality is like a huge sin and that it's like not real and that it's chosen.
And it just kind of like manipulates gaslights and makes you feel like you can choose to be straight.
And it makes you like hate like homosexuality basically.
So is it like something like – are they physically doing something?
Are they giving them chemicals or shocking or –
I don't think so.
As far as I know, it's just like – it's kind of like warping the mind basically.
But how is that even – I have to feel like they're like shocking them or something because people look so scared after they go to conversion therapy.
And it's like, okay, what are they saying?
Because like how – there's just no – nothing that could alter my brain that much.
I don't know.
Like it's not even hypnotherapy could be like stop eating.
It's like there must be something they're doing.
There's like a lot of technique.
Like think about like cults and stuff.
Like if you isolate someone and you kind of like take,
kind of almost like what Rosanna was saying,
like when she was like in that Scream Queen show,
it's like if you isolate someone and you take away like all their basic needs
and stuff and you like regulate everything
and like you're in complete control over them,
like you almost like wipe their slate clean mentally
and then you can warp them to be
anything you want.
Like, it is really scary.
That's scary.
I didn't know that was, like, a thing.
Yeah.
So you think he's –
It's hard to say because –
Do they actually change you then?
Like, is he straight?
Is he attracted to women?
Like, how does that –
No, I don't know.
I mean, like, it's, like, homosexuality is, like – or any sexuality is kind of, like,
you know, it's, like, biological or whatever.
Like, it's not really, like, a decision.
Yeah.
So it's kind of, like, suppressing – I guess a decision. So it's kind of like suppressing,
I guess in my opinion,
it's like suppressing like your actual
like attractions to men and stuff.
So it's like, you're like Barry at all.
And now he's like in the military.
I don't know.
It's all kind of weird.
Oh my God.
I thought like I hadn't heard from him.
I thought, well, that's good.
He had, you know, maybe he's the one.
He chose it.
Yeah.
I didn't know about the conversion.
I didn't know any of this. Yeah. It was like, it came out a couple of years ago. It's good. He had – maybe he's the one – He chose it. Yeah. I didn't know about the conversion. I didn't know any of this.
Yeah.
It was – it came out a couple years ago.
It's all – yeah, it's very sad because he was so like flamboyant.
And everyone – that's why everyone loved him.
Yeah.
He was like twerking and –
Yeah.
He was so like just gay and flamboyant.
He was on freaking Drag Race for crying out loud.
The one here?
Yeah.
Like he was like a featured like guest on Drag Race
because he was so popular
and so just like gay, you know?
Wow.
Yeah, he was massive.
That's so sad
because like I saw
shame on all the people
making the memes.
They're all like,
oh, he's serving
like all the stuff like that.
You know what I mean?
I thought it was like a fun thing.
I was like,
oh, everyone's like excited
he's in the military.
Where do those pictures come from?
I have no,
I don't know where the source is.
I don't think so. I forget what exactly it was, but there was like a he's not on social media I don't think so
I forget what exactly it was
but there was like a video
when he came back
I don't think it was
a YouTube video or anything
but he did post a video
talking about like
the Bible
and like why he's straight now
and stuff
and everyone's like
oh like
conversion therapy
so it's
wow
yeah who knows
they should not use
the Bible or God
like God would not be happy
with you
for like trying to like
change somebody
like that's so messed up that people use that because that's such a scary thing.
Like God wants this and God this and stuff like that.
It's like God wouldn't want that.
Like he'd be like so annoyed and he's going to be so annoyed with you.
When you have to go to like judgment day, he's going to be like, wow, you try to change one of my creations.
Like you're going to get punished.
So if you really do believe in hell, you're going to be the one going to hell because you're trying to change God's creation.
And like torturing someone to change.
Literally.
No, I feel like they actually torture.
I feel like they must do some physical something because like that's wild.
Like it's almost like.
It's a complete 180.
Like rewire someone's basically their whole brain.
Yeah.
To like, I don't want to use this phrase, like beaten down and dismissed.
But it's like, you know, you literally like get someone down there.
It's like so crazy.
It's so weird.
Yeah.
That's sad.
Oh my God.
That's so sad.
I was so excited to see him.
I was like, well, you know, he looked good.
Like, you know, whatever.
But oh, that's literally so sad. Oh my God. I know. And I didn't even know this too. He was in, well, you know, he looked good. Yeah. You know, whatever. But, oh, that's literally so sad.
I know.
And I didn't even know this too.
He was in the movie with like Timothee Chalamet.
Which one?
I don't know.
It was like –
Wow.
There's this photo of like Timothee Chalamet, Lo Hanthony, Lily Reinhart from Riverdale.
Oh, my gosh.
Like all in a car.
I'm like, oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
No, he was so big.
Like he was so everywhere.
And, again, you see someone like this kid just out of nowhere get so massive.
And you're like, oh, that's so cool.
Yeah.
That's – put him in the conversion therapy.
They should go to jail.
They should go to hell.
Maybe his family, I'm assuming.
Because he was underage.
So it had to be like –
Oh, that should be like child abuse.
Like trying to like –
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
That's so – oh, he was underage when he went.
Oh, my God.
He's like a child.
He's a kid.
Yeah. I think – I wonder how old he is now. I don like a child. I think so. He was a kid. Yeah.
I think.
I wonder how old he is now.
I don't even know.
I don't even know what his real name is.
I know.
I don't either.
I just saw a little hand that he joined the military and I was like, oh, my gosh.
Must be.
Maybe he's freshly.
He's 24 now.
Oh, and he just went to the military now.
Oh.
I know.
I'm like, he should come on.
I don't think he ever will though because he probably.
I know.
Sometimes when it's like so heavy and serious like that, like it's like the JoJo situation
where it's like, I'm like, do you understand the trauma you've gone through and you're
still going through?
And like, you know, like it's so, I don't even think I can handle situations like that.
Like someone, I don't know.
And then it's almost like traumatizing to be like, I don't know, to like bring up their
trauma.
I don't know.
It's so weird.
Yeah.
Like maybe this is how he's going to be for the rest of his life.
Maybe he comes around and realizes the stuff that he got put through.
But I would love to know. That through. But I would love to know.
That's a story I would love to know.
Me too.
Actually, yeah, that kind of stuff.
Hopefully one day people want to talk about it, you know what I mean, and share.
Because I think it just helps so many people who've gone through that.
Because I've actually never known anyone that's done Convergence.
I didn't even think it was real.
You don't even hear about it anymore.
I guess because they get isolated and they just go in their own little world and are
off of social media and stuff.
That's wild.
JoJo too, but I don't have to ask them.
Those are the serious ones.
I feel like there's very few people I get serious about.
But those kind of people I'm like, are you okay?
Because I don't think you are.
You know what I mean?
And then they'll probably text me like I don't want the interview to air.
And I'm like, oh my gosh.
Okay.
Well, we have an integrity, journalistic integrity to air it.
You need to have them sign the paper beforehand.
Zach's saying how'd you sign?
They sent me paperwork to sign a release before.
Just steal a couple of his and then we'll sign it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like sign it beforehand.
I was like, I guess that makes sense.
That's – actually, I've never had any issue with anybody not wanting the episode to air.
Some people just want to edit things out, which is fine.
But lately, a lot of people have been wanting to see their episodes.
It's like, okay.
At the beginning, no one cared.
Like, just air it.
It's literally because I already know.
It's because even with us, like I forget what we talk about sometimes and then I edit and I'm It's like, okay. At the beginning, no one cares. Just air it. It's literally because I already know. It's because even with us,
I forget what we talk about
sometimes and then I edit
and I'm like, oh yeah.
I feel like people get
really lost in the conversation
with you.
Definitely for sure
and I feel it too.
I'm like, wow,
they're really spilling the tea
and then they'll be like,
actually cut that part out.
I was like, yeah,
that makes sense.
You know what I mean?
It's funny.
It's funny.
But I'm the same way.
You know what?
The only time I've ever
asked to cut things out
is if it's talking about
something I don't want
to talk about or something like that. I'm like, just cut that out or something. But other than that, I'm always just way there's there's you know what the only time I've ever asked to cut things out it's like it's talking about something I don't want to talk about or something
like that I'm gonna cut that out or something but um other than that I'm always just like yeah I
don't care yeah sometimes I probably should edit more things out than needed but I always just say
some stuff and it just goes out there like the interview at the polyester magazine I was reading
the OF thing it's god did I say that sometimes it was in our house and I'm so comfortable and
it was like yeah guy and he's cool and I was like yeah let's just say that I was like oh my god like here I'm just being like yeah I did this this and this I was like oh house and I'm so comfortable. And it was like, yeah, guy. And he's cool. And I was like, yeah. And I was like, oh, my God.
I'm like, here I am just being like, yeah, I did this, this, and this.
I was like, oh, my God.
I'm just sharing way too much.
No PR training here.
But it's fine.
Most hated TV characters.
Did you see this list?
Oh, I didn't see this.
Tell me.
Oh, this was kind of viral.
Do you watch TV?
A bit, yeah.
But you're not like a TV.
Like, have you seen Sopranos, Walking Dead, or Breaking Bad?
No.
Have you seen Game of Thrones or Glee?
Yes, both. Okay. Like, have you seen Sopranos, Walking Dead, or Breaking Bad? No. Have you seen Game of Thrones or Glee? Yes, both. Okay. Oh my God. We're literally so twins because I have the two that I
have seen, which is Rachel Berry and Joffrey. And then in parentheses, I have the ones I didn't see.
Sopranos, Walking Dead, and Breaking Bad. That was my, I haven't seen. These two I knew. I was
like, okay, these two characters I know. These I have no idea. Oh my God. So it's a list. Most of
the characters were Game of Thrones. It was – number one was Joffrey.
Number two was Ramsay Bolton.
Bolton, Ramsay.
You know, the one that like – you know.
And then there was Cersei, Lannister.
It was like a ton of – yeah, you could bring it up.
I know.
Let me see.
But then there was a lot from like Walking Dead and Sopranos.
I'm like, I've never seen these.
Breaking Bad.
Rachel Berry was on the list from Glee as the most hated TV character.
What? That makes sense. You have Joffrey and then you have Rachel Berry was on the list from Glee as the most hated TV character. What?
That makes sense.
You have Joffrey and then you have Rachel Berry?
Oh, Will Schuster.
Oh, Will Schuster's number five.
Rachel Berry number six.
Oh, well, I didn't know Will Schuster was on top.
Will Schuster, 100%.
That's a criminal.
Yeah, literally.
Dump scare.
Rachel Berry.
I liked Rachel, but I can see why people would hate her.
No.
What?
You like her?
Rachel Berry is the Colleen of TV.
She is just so awful. Oh, you hate her? No. You like her? Rachel Berry is the Colleen of TV. She is just so awful.
Oh, you hate her?
Yeah.
Rachel Berry?
Yeah.
What do you like about her?
What do you like about her?
I think because she was very insecure.
And this is me.
I haven't watched it since it was actually on.
But the one line I always remember is like, being a part of something special makes you
special, right?
I don't even get it.
Her whole identity, she just wanted to be validated by being a part of something, you know, that, like, got accolades or whatever.
So that is the one thing I related to her about.
Like, when I was younger, I was, like, always, like, just wanting to get, like, validation from being a part of something, you know, like, just being on a team or whatever.
But she tore everyone else out on her team and she was sabotaging people on the solos.
I get why she's on the list.
And also Lea Michele also sabotaging background extras and doing weird stuff with threatening them
and their wigs
and all that
like you're nasty girl
yeah
all of it
the character's too close
to the real thing
and I can't
I can't stand her
I think she's so talented
I just can't stand her now
I look at her
I'll never forget
Haley Steinfeld
when she was just starting out
like she was filming something
on the Paramount set
where Glee was
and she was a big
Lea Michele fan
and she was so excited
she like went up
to Lea Michele on the lot
she went like
hi I'm Haley
and then Lea like gave her a look and then turned around and went back into her trailer
it's not crazy little hayley seinfeld she um she was in pitch perfect that sounds like leah
michelle actually she lives really close i know where everyone lives my friend's friends with
hayley so oh my god she literally lives down the street yeah i've never seen her actually i don't
know who she is so maybe i don haven't seen her. Jump scare though.
Hailey was Miranda Sings for Halloween once, but that was a while ago.
Oh my gosh.
That was a long time ago.
It's not wild.
I didn't say anyone who was a fan of Miranda Sings at any point in any given time.
Because that's like a rife.
It's like never was funny ever.
Like who was a fan of that?
Little kids.
And the fact that she, anyways, the fact that she's not out there and little kids are,
I'm like, oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I don't like Rachel Berry. What was number one, Joffrey?
Number one is Joffrey, which obviously, yeah.
But number two, I feel should have been number one. Who is it? Is his name Ramsey?
Ramsey Bolton.
Ramsey Bolton.
What season? Was it towards the end?
No, it was the beginning seasons. Cause I only watched, it was like the second season he really
came in and he was, he was after Joffrey died, I think. Right. Like he kind of came in, he was,
oh, his scenes were, to me, those were worse. Joffrey was a little think, right? Like, he kind of came in. He was, oh, his scenes were, to me, those were worse.
Joffrey was a little brat.
But I feel like his were worse.
And I'm like, how is he not number one? His character was
like, I couldn't watch it. Who's number
three? Ezra Fitz from Pretty Little Liars
is number 11. He is the teacher
who was sleeping with the student.
So I'm glad that he is on the list. This might be a different list
than the other, but it's kind of the same characters.
Caillou? Caillou's number 12?
Oh, that character, the baby?
The bald one.
Everyone hates that character.
Why?
I've never seen it.
Everyone hates Caillou.
I don't know anything about Caillou.
Caillou.
People hate him.
Dora the Explorer is number 38, the 38 most hated.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know what people have with-
That sounds personal.
It's a little kid.
Okay, a little kid trying to teach people Spanish.
The Teletubbies are 47, and Barney is 48 most hated. Okay. This is a weird list. The other one I saw top 10, but.
Like a lot of parents that were forced to watch what their kids were watching. Seriously. The
angry people. Oh my gosh. No, I think this is the same. Oh wait, maybe it is a different list.
Mine was like Rachel Berry was at the bottom and there was no Will Schuster. Okay. I just,
I saw this. There's a different list from – okay, yeah.
But we're number one and two are the same.
Yeah, Joffrey Ramsey.
Joffrey Ramsey.
It's so wild.
I know.
Will Schuster should be on that list though.
I love that Will Schuster was number five on the other list.
I know.
I mean –
Ranker.
Ranker has him.
Matthew Morris and – could you imagine being an actor that people just don't like for
no reason?
I don't think he's had any problematic past, right?
They just don't like him. Oh, yeah I don't think he's had any problematic past. Right? They just don't like him.
Oh yeah.
Like the actor himself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
People just hate Mr. Schuster.
On TikTok we were on trigger warning Matthew Morrison.
Like people were just like so.
Hated him so much.
People like Mr. Schuster.
And I'm like.
That's awful.
If you're not even a problematic person.
You did nothing wrong.
Like people are like.
Oh cringe.
Like him in a boy band.
And stuff like that.
I'm like.
Oh my God.
He literally did nothing.
And people just.
I get it.
He is.
It is someone that's just like unlikable. And it's like, God, to be that person that's just
like, it's like Rachel Zegler. Like, it's just like, it sucks. Cause it's like, you know?
Rachel Zegler always has to catch strays on this podcast.
Cause it's like, she is so talented too, but she's just so unlikable. And like, I don't under,
like that would suck to be that person where you're just trying hard not to be unlikable
and you just are. Cause she is so beautiful. She had that like little hood beige number on it. I
thought she was like gorge, but I was like, God, to have that personality where you also don't know that you're being
unlikable.
You don't know how to change it.
Like Matthew Morrison can't change his face, you know.
That's just his face.
And people just want to hate you for it.
And I'm like, God, that sucks.
The Rachel Zegler fans have been tagging me and things.
So they're like, they're supportive.
And they really want you to have the 180.
And I think you're not 180.
I think you're 70.
What's half?
90.
You're 90? Yeah, I'm a lateral. We're think you're, I think you're not, I think you're 70, what's half, 90. You're 90?
Yeah,
I'm a lateral.
We're almost,
yeah,
almost slipping.
Up juice.
Yeah,
I don't,
I don't hate her,
but I just think,
like,
objectively,
she's unlikable.
That's it.
You know,
it's not like I hate this person.
I want her to do well.
But it's like,
God,
she really,
and it's something that you can't change it.
That's what I'm saying.
I think she doesn't know.
She's very,
on Twitter,
she's having a lot of fun with the Hunger Games fans.
Okay.
And she's like, she's feeding it, like, she's posting a lot of cute little behind the scenes.
She gave everyone on the Hunger Games like she hand wrote like everyone on the crew little thank you notes and gave them gifts.
And everyone behind the scenes has been like saying a lot of sweet things about – like not even her.
Like everyone else behind the scenes.
It's a PR move.
It's like everyone starts saying nice things about Rachel.
Me.
Yeah.
Like, okay.
You say something nice about her. You say – because whenever that happens, you're like, okay, wait. It's a PR move. It's like everyone starts saying nice things about Rachel. Yeah. Like, okay, you say something nice about her.
You say something.
Because whenever that happens, you're like, okay, wait, someone's getting paid here.
I believe in her.
Okay.
Yes.
And she's friends with Olivia Rodrigo.
Oh, my gosh.
Well, that's what it comes down to then.
She's friends with Hunter Schaefer.
All my faves are like her.
So you know Hunter Schaefer, the Euphoria blonde girl.
Literally no idea.
Yes, you know Hunter Schaefer.
I know Barbie. I know Zendaya. I know Sini S. Yes, you know Hunter Schaefer. I know Barbie.
I know Zendaya.
I know Cindy Sweeney.
You know, she was the one that was Jacob Elordi's dad in Euphoria.
She was in the first episode.
The blonde girl.
Jacob Elordi's dad.
Yes.
You know, because you said you thought Jacob Elordi was gay in Euphoria.
And I can't even tell you why his dad was in it.
I couldn't even tell you.
Oh, no, his dad was Eric Dane.
So who was she?
Who's Hunter Schaefer? The blonde girl who slept with him in the first in it. Like, I couldn't even tell you. Oh, no, his dad was Eric Dean. So who was she? Who's under Shaper?
The blonde girl who slept with him in, like, the first 10 minutes.
She's a high schooler?
Yes.
The little high school blonde girl riding the bike.
I don't remember.
Literally, and I remember so much of this.
I swear on everything I don't remember this person.
You know what I'm going to say?
I'm like, oh, yeah, that person.
But I'm so – do you remember?
You watched the first two episodes of Euphoria.
See?
Moses remembers.
Wait, you knew?
No, did you know?
You knew that?
Okay, well, well, Slay.
Okay, I love her.
I don't know.
It's one of the episodes we watched.
What else is she in?
The Hunger Games.
That's it.
Okay.
I don't know.
How would I know her then?
Just Euphoria.
Just Euphoria.
Okay.
Yeah.
Anyway, I love Hunter Schaefer.
You would love her because she's just like a fashion, like, girly.
Like, she's just so cute.
She's so pretty that it's like. Okay. I love a pretty girlfer. You would love her because she's just like a fashion like girly. Like she's just so cute. She's so pretty that it's like.
Okay.
I love a pretty girl.
And like unproblematic.
So it's like impossible to not like Hunter Schaefer.
We're on it.
Hunter Schaefer.
Come on the pod, Hunter.
Come on the pod.
You know, I am a fan of anyone that wants to come on this podcast.
If they come on the podcast, I become a fan of them.
Like anyone who has a new, the first time on a podcast, I research them and I'm like,
I'm their biggest fan because I just spent a whole day prior to my interviews just engulfing myself in it.
And it's fun.
I love getting to know people.
So Hunter Schaefer, she's in The Hunger Games?
Yes.
Did she die?
The new one.
No, she's alive.
The whole game?
I thought they all have to die.
She's not one of those.
She's the president's – why am I going to explain this?
She's the president's cousin.
Did you see – I keep seeing myself in Hunger Games. Yes, I don't know. Why am I going to explain this? She's the president's cousin. But yeah. Did you see? I keep seeing myself in Hunger Games meme.
Yes.
I saw your story.
They're like luxury, weaponry.
District one.
Yeah.
District 10 agriculture.
I'm hoping.
I want everyone to make you in Hunger Games memes because then I feel like you'd end up
watching it just to understand the meme.
I do love those memes.
I do love when they're like the host and it's me.
When they make it about you.
Yeah.
It's like everything is just me.
I was like, yes, I love that.
That's my favorite thing. I think people did that like as Euphoria too. Like me as is just me. I was like, yes, I love that. That's my favorite thing.
I think people did that like as Euphoria too, like me as different characters in Euphoria.
Oh, yes.
I remember that.
And I was like, I'm here for it.
I love it.
Thank you.
Is that why you watched Euphoria, that first episode?
I think we just had nothing to watch.
I was like, we'll watch Euphoria.
It's kind of like maybe we'll watch Squid Games, but I feel like I won't like it.
But yeah, Euphoria, everyone was just talking about it.
It was all over TikTok, I think.
So I was like, all right, let's watch it.
And then there's like two episodes. I was like, everyone was just talking about it. It was all over TikTok, I think. So I was like, all right, let's watch it. And then there's like two episodes.
I was like, no, it's so bad.
Another topic I saw in Spill Shash.
Shout out.
Shout out to Spill Shash.
Oh, she DM'd me.
I need to DM her back.
She did like a weekly TCAP.
I think that's what she calls them.
And it was all pretty much like happy news.
She talked about baby Elvis.
And then she talked about Shane and Rylan moving back to LA.
I think Spill Shash is a secret fan.
I don't know if it's a secret or not a secret.
She DM'd me once saying –
Yeah.
Yeah.
She DM'd me too.
Yeah.
She's sweet.
I mean, even before that, I've liked her stuff.
But –
We love Spill Slash for real.
I love her.
I like her videos.
I do love her videos.
I love that she was a former TMZ.
Like, I loved all of it.
Journalist.
Yeah.
Which makes sense because she does give journalism.
Yeah.
She's like on it.
She's quick.
Yeah.
She made money.
She bought a house.
She said from her videos. Oh, did she really? Oh, work. I think that's what she said in her – Yeah. Yeah, she's like on it. She's quick. Yeah. She made money. She bought a house, she said, from her videos.
Oh, did she really?
I think that's what she said in her.
Oh my God.
Oh, work.
She was talking about like Baby Elvis.
She talked about Tana and Brooke.
And then she also thought it was interesting
because I kind of forgot.
Like Shane and Rylan are moving back to LA
to have their twins.
Oh my God.
Really?
Yeah.
Wait, yeah.
Are they moving?
Wait, they're pregnant?
I didn't know. I mean, you know what I mean. No, no, Yeah. Wait, yeah. They moving? They're pregnant.
I didn't know.
I mean, you know what I mean.
No, no, no. Wait, what?
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Wait, wait. What happened? They're moving limited time. Wait, what?
What happened?
They're moving back to LA.
They're having twins?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know this.
Wait, are you serious?
Tia.
Oh my God.
What?
Where was their announcement?
Did they make an announcement?
Yeah, they're having twins.
They're moving back to LA.
Where's the announcement photo?
I don't know.
I don't keep up with them that much.
How do they announce it?
I love announcements.
How did that happen?
How did I miss it?
I think in a YouTube video.
Maybe even Rylan's channel.
I don't know.
Okay.
I don't know.
Because probably Rylan's channel, I'm assuming.
Well, good for them.
Happy for them.
But yeah, they're having twins.
So they move back to LA.
Wait, are the twins here?
No, they're not.
They're almost here.
Soon.
Like when?
I think within the next month or two.
Do I get a gift? Or no? That's what I was trying to ask you. Oh, okay. Yeah. They're almost here soon. Like when? I think within the next month or two. Do I get a gift?
Or no? That's what I was trying to ask you.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I was trying to see that
because I feel like before when they were in
Montana, I think.
Why is everyone up in Montana? Isn't Jeffrey up there?
Everyone's up there. Jeffrey's in Wyoming.
Oh my God. What is the difference? I know.
Montana, Wyoming. I think they're in
Montana. Are these two separate states?
I really thought they were like the same state. Two separate states, yes. Oh my gosh. They morph into each other. Yeah, when they were in Montana, I. I think they're in Montana. Are these two separate states? I really thought they were, like, the same state. Two separate states, yes.
Oh, my gosh.
They morph into each other.
Yeah.
When they were in Montana, I felt like they were just so, like, removed from, like, YouTube
community.
So I kind of, like, not in the shade.
Just kind of, you kind of, like, forget because, you know, when they're not, like, intermingling,
you know, and they're just doing their own thing.
I literally forgot.
Not shady.
Yeah.
Literally forgot.
Same.
I was just like, wait.
Yeah.
When you said that, I was like, oh, my God.
It's like, it triggered was just like, wait. When you said that, I was like, oh my god. It triggered something. Like, wait.
It brought you back to a time in life like Shane and Rylan.
Like, whoa. I know.
Then I was thinking like, okay, they're
about to have twins. You're having a baby
in a few months. So it was like,
what do you think? Do you think there's anything
They're real low-key because I didn't see
their announcement anywhere. That's crazy.
I mean, maybe they love that, though.
Obviously, when you move to Montana or wherever they went, obviously, you go to be forgotten, I guess.
I guess you go to be out of the spotlight.
Keep it low profile.
I think Demi Moore did that.
I think she moved to Wyoming at some point to be out of the spotlight.
So I think that's where you go when you want to be.
So I guess they wanted to keep it low-key, which is cute.
I like that.
I respect it.
I wonder if he's going to name it Chandler because he always said he was going to name his baby Chandler.
Oh, really? I wonder if one of them are Chandler, especially now. He always said that, that
he was going to name his baby Chandler. Oh, that'd be... Oh my God, that's wild. I don't
think they've talked about baby names yet. No? Okay. As far as I know. I wonder, especially
now. I feel like Spill Shots would have put it in her video if they said names or even
gender or anything. Yeah. Oh, you don't know gender? I don't think so. Okay, love. They're
going to be surprised. I mean, maybe they know gender. I don't think so. Okay. Love. They're going to be surprised.
I mean, maybe they know, but they haven't announced it yet.
I probably should have watched more of their videos.
I know.
I've never seen them. I didn't expect you to not know.
So that's why.
I'm shook.
I was expecting you to tell me.
I literally am like so shook right now.
Good for them.
Like I'm shook.
Wow.
Everyone's having babies.
Yeah.
It's a baby boom happening right now.
That's what I was.
So.
We love it.
What do you think?
Like, is there any reconciliation that can happen there?
Oh, I love that you're asking me this, T.
Yeah.
I feel like you're a journalist right now.
I feel like we're in entertainment tonight.
We're flipping –
I was like, no entertainment tonight.
Turns on tables.
Yes.
You want this as your tagline.
No.
I feel like they would have to – like, I wouldn't expect you to, like, you know, make
the first move or anything.
Yeah.
But what if they came to you?
I don't know.
Just because also like parenthood I feel like just changes everyone.
Definitely that.
Definitely that.
And I know for me – and this is – I've gotten in trouble saying this before.
Like I forget so many things because it's like life now is so different.
And so that doesn't take away like if I've like hurt somebody or like hurt their feelings or whatever.
And like honestly, I really have to think about the situation.
Like I kind of know for me what was like the hurtful part that like where I was like I'm over this friendship.
But even when I think about that, I'm like maybe they perceive it a totally different way.
Maybe they think that I really betrayed them or something.
I don't know what it is.
But it's like anything though.
It's like even when I said – we can say it.
It's whatever.
It's fine.
You know, whatever.
Like when I said the thing about Jeffrey where I was like I forgot.
You know, it's like – you know, obviously I don't forget.
But it's like it's so not a part of my
like life. And it's something that I don't even think about because it's like my life now and
who I am now is so different. It's like the vlogs, like anything, it almost feels like,
I think that's why I'm so comfortable talking about like anything like Shane or David or any
stuff like that, because it's so far removed from who I am now. So it's like this thing and Shane,
like I, oh my God, like I loved Shane so much.
And obviously the aftermath of the falling out or whatever is hearing stuff. Oh, he talked about
you. He talked shit. And it's like, you know, when you're young and like, I don't doubt it.
You know, I don't doubt it. It's like, you know, we would talk shit about people. So it makes sense
that he would talk about me, whatever. But again, like, I think it changes you. One age changes you
so much. Like just aging. You're just like, oh my God. When I think about all the time of wasted,
like making fun of people's like videos and stuff like that, like it was weird. It's weird energy to put out there because it was coming back
to me. I don't know. It's all weird. I loved Shane. I think for me, that was like the hardest
because also my thing that ended like our friendship, I guess you could say it wasn't
really necessarily to do with Shane directly. So I was kind of like, it was just hard to like
lose that. Cause it was the one person, the one person I never talked about with Shane,
the one person who I thought will be in my life forever is Shane. The one person I was like, this person has my back, really has loved me
through all my cancellations, was like there for me, told me like everything's going to be okay,
was the first guest on my last, my first solo podcast. Like just anytime I needed him in a vlog
or anything, like he would like show up. So it's like, like that was like such a hard friendship.
And I do think about this. I think about this a lot and maybe not like all the time now, but it
was for a minute where I was like, oh, if he emailed me, like you were on the wedding or something like that. I thought,
oh, should I invite him and stuff like that? Cause it's like, he was such a big part of my life,
but I feel like so too much time has passed. If that makes sense, like too much has shifted.
Everything has changed. And because my life is on such a good trajectory now, it's like,
do I go back? Do we, do they want that? Do you know what I mean? There's, there's toxic,
you know, there's, there's toxicity that was happening in the past. Can you truly forget it and move on? I know I could, but being an overthinker, I would just
think like, oh, maybe they can't. Maybe they still have some resentment towards me. Maybe they still
look at me side eye. But I know for me, I literally can move past anything. Jeffree Star could sit
here and I would be fine. You know what I mean? There's certain things I don't forgive for sure,
certain people in my life.
And I either just don't talk about them or like just cut it off completely.
You know what I mean?
So like talking about, if I talk about someone, I move past it.
It doesn't, it's not something so, there was no lives ruined over it.
You know, if there was, I just don't talk about that person, whatever.
But, um, yeah, but I think it's just like, we're on such different paths.
Like so too much time has passed.
I don't know.
It is weird.
I always just think too, like if you see, cause they, they do live close. We live close to each other. If they're moving back to the same house, I I don't know. It is weird. I always just think, too, like, if you see, because they do live close.
We live close to each other.
If they're moving back to the same house, I actually don't know.
This was years ago.
They are, yeah.
They are.
Oh, interesting.
Okay, so they kept the house.
Okay, bougie.
Okay, ball and flex.
They have two houses.
They have them both, yeah.
Okay, so I always think about that because it's like we, especially we go to the area
all the time to eat and stuff like that.
So I was like, oh my God, that'd be like, do you just like hide if you see something?
Like, I always think, and I never, it's weird.
They always say LA's a small town.
I never run into anybody that I know, which is like crazy.
People – I know you do.
Like a horror night sells out.
I never run into – I guess I don't leave my house.
But I always think about that.
I'm like, do you say hi to you or whatever?
But yeah, it's – I would love to.
And I think when they have those babies, like they'll change so much where I feel like – again, for me, like as being being a mom, it's, like, literally nothing else in my
past. Like, nothing matters. Like, I don't care about anything. I don't care. Like, you know.
But I know I've changed so much. So it's, like, would we even be friends? You know,
would we even be? Because I'm sure they've changed, like, especially if they're in,
like, Montana or something. It's, like, you know, they're probably, I don't know.
Montana seems kind of like the equivalent, like, the state equivalent of, like, conversion therapy.
It feels like you go there to just be, like, not gay, but just changed. You know what I mean? Like we're just going to, so, and maybe they have,
they seem so low key. I never hear anything again. They're not, I never hear anything about them. So
maybe they're like living their best life and, and they love it that way. Cause I know Shane
always kind of wanted to maybe not be in the spotlight. Like he always wanted to like direct
or something like that. So to answer your question, I don't know. Also when you have,
the other thing is when you have babies close in age,
sometimes you're just like, oh, it would be like a cute –
because we struggle to find a play date.
So the friends we do have that have babies were like become closer than ever.
You know what I mean?
And I think that's why I became friends with like Ro so quickly
because her sister Molly, they have – she has – our kids are like a month apart.
And so I think you just become closer because it's for your kids.
So I don't know.
It's hard.
If it was like perfect world, everyone could be forgiven.
I know I'm forgiven if everyone's like, okay, like that was a long time ago.
Like everything's forgiven.
Yes, because I would – oh, my gosh.
Like especially seeing someone in their like parent era is so beautiful.
And like especially the first year they say is the toughest, and I totally agree because now that she's over a year, oh my God, now she's just like fun, chill. It's like she has a personality. The first year
is tough, but there's so much change that's happening. And it's just so like, I'm excited
to have another baby just so I can enjoy it more because it's like, it goes by so fast. But in the
moment you think like, oh my God, it's going to last forever. So I think just seeing someone like
with their new babies and stuff is, is such a beautiful thing. And I think they'll, I, I know
they'll be good parents.
And Shane is,
Shane is,
people always come for him for like calling himself an empath,
but he is very like empathetic.
He's very like,
has sympathy for a lot of people.
So I don't know.
I would,
I would,
I'd be open to it
if they come on the Just Church podcast.
Just kidding.
I would be open to it.
Like even Drew,
when he's just like,
I just want to,
if we could just have like lunch first.
I'm so,
I love that.
I love the idea of it.
And me and Drew never had like a falling out, but there's something, I love Drew. I love, he's just like, I just want to, if we could just have like lunch first. I'm so, I love that. I love the idea of it. And me and Drew never had like a falling out, but there's something, I love Drew.
I love, he's our, he's our most requested guest.
Number one dream guest.
He's the dream guest.
He's my dream guest.
He's the dream guest.
His sister Lily, tell him, you know, come on.
Because like I told him, I'm like, you can edit anything you want.
Literally, we'll give you the episode.
You will give me the episode.
Edit yourself.
I don't, you know, whatever you need.
Like I just, cause he's so entertaining and it's like, I told him like, there doesn't
even have to be about drama. It doesn't have to be a shame about anyone. Like, it's just like need. Like, I just, because he's so entertaining. And it's like, I told him, like, there doesn't even have to be about drama.
It doesn't have to be about shame about anyone.
Like, it's just, like, people want to know about you.
And he's so fascinating.
So, yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Like I said, I haven't, like, really kept up with him.
So, seeing that they're back in the old house, having babies around the same time as you,
all of a sudden, I was like, wait.
Oh, my God.
Are we in 2018?
Or, that's even before.
Shane was, like, 2017.
Like, and we used to spend like every weekend together, like everything.
Like it was just, it's so crazy.
So I think 2017, because David was like 2018.
And then like Shane and I just weren't close after that, like 2019 and stuff.
So during the pandemic, I guess we saw him a lot more.
We did see them quite a bit, like in 2020.
I'm shocked.
I'm shook right now.
I'm like, oh my God, they're going to be parents.
Like I'm still the mentality that everyone's like 16 years old.
So like, oh my God, are they even?
I know.
But you know, we're like old to be parents.
So.
Yeah.
It'll be interesting to see the shift like once the babies are here.
Because I know that like, I feel like what I've seen in like the, in different, in this
like Spill Sessions video and stuff, they do have a lot of like the same like mannerisms
and like senses of humor and stuff.
So, and yours was so like different post Malibu, you know?
Oh, yeah.
So I'm interested to see like that like maturity and like how they like look at life differently
and stuff.
Like looking at your old videos versus now is so wild.
Like I see random like old clips of you on TikTok and stuff.
Yeah.
You know, they make everything sounds and memes.
And I'm like, I forgot Trisha was like this.
Oh, same.
Oh my God.
Sometimes I'm like embarrassed. I'm like, oh Trisha was like this oh same oh my god sometimes I'm like embarrassed I'm like oh my god like it's embarrassed like it
is that's why YouTube can be like a blessing and a curse because sometimes I'm like that's so
embarrassing and sometimes it's like endearing but like some of the ones where I'm like crying
and I'm just like oh my god like what like I would never do that now like putting out all my emotions
on the internet it's like totally fine if you want to do that and stuff like that but it's just like
wow I like couldn't get it keep it together it's very weird or weird. Or just the yelling and the aggression and the, but what I noticed
in my eyes was always just like, I was always just really sad. And that's what I like always
reiterate. It's just like, I was just sad. I was just like lonely. I just never had someone,
I was just always sad. So I think that was like more than anything. So like, I think the anger
and the all that stuff like that came from that if I'm like psychoanalyzing myself. But yeah,
it's crazy. And I, I always think, oh, like I didn't change that much having a kid and stuff like that.
But like it just does – I don't know what it does.
I think it's just like – because nothing – just nothing matters and nothing is that
serious and that's why I like doing this because it's like nothing is that serious
unless it is serious.
And then it just like really tugs at you even more and you feel some type of way.
So also just age.
I mean aging also whether you have a baby or not, just age changes you.
Yeah.
Like in your 30s, you're just like, okay, like that doesn't really matter. Yeah. Even for also, whether you have a baby or not, just age changes you. Like in your 30s,
you're just like,
okay, like that doesn't really matter.
Yeah, even for me,
there's like a shift.
Once I hit like 30 all of a sudden,
like you don't notice it at first,
but then like the way you approach life
is just very different.
Like your priorities are very different.
Like it is wild.
You're not like competing.
Like, I don't know.
Like I feel like you're always
in like competition with somebody
when you're young,
whether it's for boys or a job
or something like,
I don't know. That's why I always tell people on my cameos, like I never give advice. I always say competition with somebody when you're young, whether it's for boys or a job or something. Like, I don't know. That's why I always tell people I'm a cameo. So like, whenever I give advice, I always say like, especially when they're
young, like 21 or 20, I'm like, don't like work, like be like, oh, she just got broken up with at
20. And I'll be like, don't sweat that stuff. Don't worry about stuff. Cause it literally like
works out. Like, I don't know how else to tell people that. Like it just works itself out and
it truly does. Like the way it's meant to be will work out for you. Like, that's it. I don't know.
There's literally no way to explain it. I think that's why I'm so grateful for being a mess on the internet,
because I feel like that's like the only thing I can like kind of inspire people by is like,
it just works out. Like it will work out for you. I don't know how to explain it because I don't
know how it worked out for me, but it just does, you know? So I don't know. That's wild. That's
so cool. Oh my God. I need to catch up on people having babies. That's so crazy.
I think they're like a month or two out from the twins.
So it's like pretty soon.
So maybe they're just keeping it offline.
Maybe they're not like talking about it or something like that.
I think there's no vlogs about it.
They're preparing for it.
Oh, do you think?
They're like baby proofing their house and stuff.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, they got a lot of time before they got baby proof.
But I mean, it's good for them.
You know, like prepare.
We over prepared too.
That's like one thing with this next baby.
I was just like, oh, we just need like a Dock-a-Tot in the bottle.
You know what I mean?
Like the first baby we bought like every single thing and he's like none of it.
But I guess that's part of the journey.
And it is so exciting.
That first like baby is – I mean they got two – oh, my God.
Twins.
Oh, that sounds – I love the idea.
I like really wanted to be pregnant with twins.
But they're always on like different like – I don't know.
Maybe they're not like feeding schedules, changing the diapers.
Yeah.
It's going to be, I mean, two is so, I don't know how anyone would do it.
Twins is so hard.
You have to have help.
If I had twins, we'd have to have help.
I think they said they were getting help.
Yeah.
And they were like, I think they're already planning.
Cause like Shane is more like nocturnal, I guess.
And Ryland is more daytime.
So like they would be like planning their shifts. But they said they would have help too.
And that's why they moved back
is so they have more access to Shane's family
and then also nannies and stuff.
It's very difficult.
I give it to Moses.
He's super parent over here
because a lot of people get night nurses.
This thing out here,
I think Riley was talking about having a night nurse too.
She was saying like,
I didn't even know this was a thing,
but 100% if I did not have Moses,
if I didn't have a husband,
I want to wake up, I'd get a night nurse where they like
wake up with the baby and stuff like that. That way you can get your sleep and stuff like that.
But Moses is a super parent. He will, he wants to, he doesn't even want a night nurse for the
second one. I was like, oh, are you, you don't, you're going to have this, but you, there's so
many babies and I'm a baby. There's three babies he has to take care of. So I was just like, this
is a lot. But now it's going to be even easier because kind of know how to do it. You know what
I mean? Make it easier to do it.
You're so confident.
He's so confident.
Everyone's TikTok I see is like one to two is disaster.
And everyone's like, oh my God, the second one is going to be wild and it's going to
test you.
And it's like, that's why getting twins out of the way is kind of smart.
You get to get them out of the way and stuff like that.
They grew up together.
I like the idea.
I like the idea of twins.
That's cool.
I wonder, do they choose it or?
I don't know.
You know nothing.
Okay.
I love it.
I wonder if they show, you know, that whole influencer thing influencers like we will never
show our baby and then there's influencers who does i wonder if they're gonna show the babies
or not i know i feel i mean i think rylan vlogs a lot i mean a lot i don't know if it's every day
but a lot so i imagine i feel like they probably would but i don't know i don't know i guess we'll
see i always yeah it's always yeah that's always me like pet peeve is when influencers like judge others for showing their baby or not showing their well most people do it no it's people who don't know. I guess we'll see. I always – yeah. It's always – yeah. That's always me. Like pet peeve is when influencers like judge others for showing their baby or not showing their – well, most people do it.
No, it's people who don't show their baby usually judge people for showing their baby.
It's rarely the other way around.
Oh, man.
Baby boom is upon us.
Everyone is pregnant.
Everyone is having babies.
Paris Hilton had a baby.
It's super exciting.
It is super exciting.
It's so weird.
I'm pregnant.
I'm just like I want to be pregnant again. I would say two, but I'm like – and it probably will be two because it's going to had a baby. It's super exciting. It is super exciting. It's so weird. I'm pregnant. I'm just like, I want to be pregnant again.
I always say two, but I'm like, and it probably will be two because it's going to be a lot.
But you see people have, it is a weird thing.
I don't know.
Maybe it's just because I'm pregnant right now or whatever.
But it's a weird thing.
You see people pregnant like when I wasn't.
I just wanted to be pregnant so bad because you just see everyone else and it's just like,
that's so exciting.
You remember how exciting it was.
So I feel like I'm just going to always want to be pregnant because I'll be like, okay,
next.
And I love, love, love being pregnant.
It's such a fun time.
It's so fun to go to the doctors and things like that.
But I'm scared I'm going to keep wanting to be pregnant forever.
I'll just be like, okay, let's have another one.
Let's have another one.
I don't know.
Well, I think we're done with it too.
I think that's where we're at, but you just never know.
All right, guys.
This has been another episode of Just Trish with my co-hosts, Oscar, my husband, Moses, and my co-host, the audience.
Just being Wendy Williams over here.
We love you guys.
Nothing's too serious.
Remember, it's Just Trish.
Is that the tagline?
Was that the right one?
No.
No, what was the tagline?
I felt like that, though.
What's yours?
Is it not personal?
It's Just Trish.
But it's not serious.
It's Just Trish.
It also works.
It's not serious?
That's what you said. Yeah. It's not personal. It's just Trish. But it's not serious. It's just Trish. It also works. It's not serious? That's what you said.
It's not personal.
It's just Trish.
Bye.