Just Trish - Gigi Gorgeous on Becoming a Mom & EXPOSING Trisha's Crush on Shane Dawson

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

The nostalgia is real as Gigi Gorgeous joins Trish to reminisce on their most iconic moments over the years! Plus, Gigi drops a SHOCKING career bombshell, and details her tumultuous IVF journey as she prepares to enter her mommy era. And the blonde bombshell also exposes the awkward moment when Trisha confessed her crush on Shane Dawson! Subscribe to the Podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/just-trish/id1698564262?at=1010lSCj Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6bZ5tfeCt6naGMw24pRMLe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@justtrishpodcast All Podcast Platforms: https://link.chtbl.com/JustTrish?at=1010lSCj Follow Just Trish on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/justtrishpod/ Follow Oscar: https://www.instagram.com/oscargracey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey guys! Welcome back to the Justine's Podcast and I am so excited for today's guest. We've been talking for already hours. We just did a little McDonald's mukbang. Not even on camera. We just mukbanged it. I'm here with the one and only Gigi Gorgeous Getty! Hey, hey, hey! Oh my god! I'm on my favorite podcast ever! Someone pinch me! Oh my god! I'm kind of gagged, but I heard you talk about it and then you said you watched it. I was like, oh my gosh.

I watch it and Oscar's here. Oscar is here. Shout out Oscar. Right? Never here for a guest. Everyone was like, oh my gosh. I watch it and Oscar's here. Oscar is here. Shout out Oscar. Right? Never here for a guest. Everyone's like, where's Oscar? I guess we should have given him a microphone too, like a third microphone. But I'm obsessed. Thank you for having me.

Thank you for being here. Just iconic. We're literally filming this like on a Wednesday to put out the next Thursday because people have asked for you. And I just really, we were talking about this in the glam room. Like you just don't, you just like retired from YouTube. I feel like I really did. I mean, I do still post, but not as regularly. I feel like the world has just really changed.

Like the world of Gigi or the world? Both. Yeah. Like what are you doing now with your days? I am. I mean, I still work a lot. I don't really post on YouTube very much. Wait, so what's your work? So I still do like social media and stuff. I'm actually joining OnlyFans. No! Next week.

What? No, you're not. Yes, I am. Why? I'm going balls to the wall. You are Gigi Gordas Getty. I don't think you need it. Well, I guess some people make like $100 million on there.

Right. Wait, what? What? Yeah. I was actually holding back telling you when we were doing our little McDonald's book bag. Cause I was like, should I tell her before we like actually start recording? No, I'm kind of gagged right now. I'm literally getting like, why? I mean, love, but why? So they came to me with like a really fierce deal. And I was like, wait,

should I? And I was like, I think I actually am going to do this. And then my husband was like supportive. And I was like, Oh, this is like fun. What does that mean? What does it look like? What are you going to do on there? I think I'm just going to do it all. No. You're going to do it tapes? I know. I'm like, kind of gay. I love it. No, me too. I mean, that's what I did 2020. Yeah, it's like really fun.

I was thinking about you too. I was like, oh my god, Trisha did it. Oh my god. I would have loved. I wish we were doing it at the same time. That would have been so good. Are you actually going to show everything? I'm actually going to do it, yeah. But show everything. Are you going to just be like lingerie, like Bat Baby and all them?

I think I might do that and like a little more. Who knows? You think you'll show like show stuff? Yeah. Topless? Yeah. Bottomless? Maybe.

Oh my God. Subscribe. When is that happening? Next week. The launch is next week. Yeah, next Tuesday or Wednesday. Oh, I'm kind of shook right now. So fun, right? Have you shot content for it already? I have, yeah Tuesday or Wednesday. Oh, I'm kind of shook right now. So fun, right?

Have you shot content for it already? I have, yeah. Is it like professional, like with photographers, or are you just doing candid? Both, both. So you went to like, okay, are you going to like a photo studio? And like they're like, okay. No, most just like I've done at my house. And you just have photographers come over.

Yeah, but it's like a year-long thing, so I'm sure I'll do on set or I don't know. In the jungle, what do people do? Wait, what? Who knows? It's like a new little adventure. Oh my God. This is wild. So it's really just like they came with you for a deal and you're like, I can't say no to this. Kind of. But you've always been very open with your body. Like every time I've seen you, you're just like, you just undress in front of everyone. Like you don't really care. No, not at all. And that's the thing. I was kind of like, wait, so I'm about to have a baby. I'm, you know, I'm married. Yeah. So I'm like,

and I I'm working out every day. I'm like, well, what, what better time to show my body? Yes. You know, it's giving like feminism. Yeah. It's so, I thought that too, when I was like, you know what? You can make so much money off your body, which is like art. It's beautiful. And it's free. Oh, it's free. It's yours. No, it's your body. Yes. Yes. But you're free. You're not free. The only fans won't be free. I was like, wow, you're just giving it all away. Merry Christmas. Zero dollars. Happy holidays, guys.

Here's my butthole. Those do so well. Oh, really? They do so well. Oh, yeah. Give me tips. I used to spread it. I don't know what we can say on this podcast, but I used to spread it, and people loved

that. That was the big one. You don't have to show your face or anything like that. They just love it. Which, to me, I do it because that's what they like, but I used to, like, spread it, and people love that. That was, like, the big one. You don't have to show your face or anything like that. They just love it. Which I'm like, to me, like, I do it, because that's what they like, but I never get it. Like, I don't look at it and, like, a spread open, and I'm like, ooh, that looks, I don't know. Yeah.

Feet, I heard, is cute. I can do feet. I don't know. When they're not blotchy with spray tan, maybe. Your feet look so good. Should we do, can you do a shoe cam? Can you see? Shoe cam? There's, like, these cute little, these are Versace charm yeah so nice so heavy and chunky oh i love heavy and chunky you look so good no the whole legs everything you're working out wait so this i'm still so shook are you gonna do it solo i think so okay so no one

else like you you collab and stuff on it yeah are you gonna collab i don't know i don't know i haven't joined yet wow so i don't know we'll see oh my gosh this is wild joined yet. Wow. So I don't know. We'll see. Oh my gosh. This is wild. Did you ever think this would happen? Were you like. No, I never really thought that I would do OnlyFans, but I feel like it's kind of fun. Yeah. I don't know.

There's just something fun about it. It is. And it's like, it's very, I don't know. Like you said, it's very empowering. I think it is. Yes. I love showing my body anyway. So for me, it sounds like, well, I might as well like charge people.

Yes. And you make so much off of it. It's so crazy. Right, right. Wow. Yeah, we'll just see. Did you tell your dad? No. Wait, but he's gonna know.

Do you think? Yeah. You're gonna promote it. They're gonna promote you. Like, if you have a deal with them, they're gonna promote you. I know. They did say that. Oh, my God. You're gonna be, like, on billboards in Toronto. Stop. Do you think? Maybe. Maybe I need to rethink this. No, I can't wait to hear. But I wanna know the numbers

after. I'm like, what is this deal? I can't even imagine. Yeah, I'm excited. But you're also just so, like, bougie. You, like, don't wait to hear. But I want to know the numbers after. I'm like, what is this deal? I can't even imagine. Yeah, I'm excited. But you're also just so like bougie. You like don't even need it. But I guess you're just doing it for fun and the adventure. Yeah, I think it's fun. It's like something new. Wow. And Nats is totally supportive. Yep. He said he's down. Wow. And I was like, okay, are you going to be on it? And he was like,

no. No? No. He's not going to be on it. It's just me. I know. I like begged Moses. I met Moses right at the beginning when I started mine. I was like, will you please be on it? And he's just like, never. And then you stopped, right? I did, yeah. I had like a good three months of just being wild out with it.

Right. And then I was like, I kind of want love. You know what I mean? Yeah. But he like supports it like solo, all that stuff like that. Like, you know, I did it for the past like three years. But now I'm kind of like stopping just because I like have a C-section. I have like a scar and all that stuff like that.

And you're also like a mom. But you're going to be a mom. Yeah, I will. And I'll probably stop when I have a kid. Yeah, probably. I think that's my thing. Just like wild out for a minute. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I go back and forth with it. Cause I'm like, you know, you're still like a hot mom and stuff like that, but I think so too. You know what? I actually take that back. I feel like you can. Yeah. No, I totally think you can do both. I just go back and forth with it. I was just like, I don't know. I do too. We just went back and forth, both of us, right now. Because I love the idea of it.

Like mine still goes and I sell like older content. But like I love the idea of like just doing a naked photo shoot or something. Like Kana still does it. And she's like, do you ever want to clap? And I was like, oh, I really want to. But like is it weird? Like I'm a mom and I'm just like, woo. But it's not.

It's not. Yeah. I've had like Riley Reid on here and she's a mom and she still does it. Oh, I love her. Yeah, I love her too. I've watched that episode. She's so, so cute. So cute. So smart. So cute. She's just like Riley Reid on here and she's a mom and she still does it. Oh, I love her. Yeah, I love her too. I watched that episode. She's so, so cute. So cute.

So smart. So cute. She's just like just bringing in the money. She's like, I just love her. She has like a good relationship. She's married, has a baby and she still does it. So, you know, London the Plug. She's another one that's like a mom and she goes wild out.

She, her husband's like does a podcast. I don't know how to explain her. She's like an influencer. London the Plug? Yeah. You've never heard of her? Adam 22. Do you know him? You guys know no one that we were talking. I don't know how to explain her. She's like an influencer. You've never heard of her? Adam 22, do you know him? You guys know no one that we were talking.

I know no one. Who were we talking about over there on TikTok and you're like, I have no idea who that is? I don't know. Literally everybody. You're like, I love Oscar. I'm like, do you remember when we watched him on Strawberry 17 and you're like, who? We watched him together. I love that you just have a clear mind. That's good because it's like meditation.

Is it clear mind or is it foggy mind? Because I don't remember people. Maybe a little bit of both. I'm like, I don't know. It doesn't ring a bell. But I love that. I love when it's not lying and being like, oh, yeah, of course. I know that person.

It's like, nope, don't know them. But we were like recounting everything because my sister was there. I'm like, no, we ordered Domino's. We watched this. We did the rebrand. You're like, okay. Speaking of Domino's, Kelly. We're going to order some right now. Get it into the get it just fast food all day oh my god yeah we had nuggets four cheeseburgers yeah double cheeseburgers there's big mac waiting for me in there oh my

god so many cokes so many yeah dr pepper and you always been like that ever since i've known you you've just eaten like whatever you want never worked out i well Well, now I'm a workout-er. Yeah. Okay. So do we want to jump into this right now? I don't know. There's so much. We just went from OF to like now mommyhood. Like let's talk IVF. I don't know. There's so much. Oh my God. Also, what do we call only? Is it like spicy people say? Spicy content. Spicy content. Yes. Or what do they call it? You don't say

only. You say like OF. OF. Spicy content or sneaky link. Or an account. Spicy accountant, people say. Spicy accountant? Yeah. Like, I used to put the little, like, chili emoji. I got kicked off Snapchat because I, like, mentioned OF.

So I'm always so scared. But... OFXGG. Is that what it is? I guess. I just made that up. Oh, like the collab. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like OFXGG. I'm going to put, like,.com slash XGG. We got to get your actual URL. You have to do, like, a vanity one, too. Like, mine's, like, only Trish. Like, you have to do, like, a the collab. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like OFXGG. I'm going to be like.com slash XGG. We got to get your actual URL. You have to do like a vanity one too. Like mine's like only Trish. Like you have to do like a vanity URL. I think it's just going to be my name, right? Just gggorgeous.com?

Oh, that would make sense. Like direct people there. Right. And you're talking to like the head of OF and stuff like that. No, I love. They're great over there. Oh my God. I can't believe you're doing it.

I know. Me neither. Kind of fun though, right? Wow. Yeah. How often are you shooting content? I've only done a few days now. Wow. Because I haven't even started yet. Oh my God, that's so wild. Oh my God, I'm so happy for you. That's such a cool venture. That's definitely not on my notes. I was just like, okay, let's talk about this. Why would it be?

I know. It's like the wildest thing. That's like exclusive tea. Oh my God, we have so many exclusives. Okay, so let's talk about your IVF just because it's so big. Okay, you haven't done an update in two months. I haven't, no. When's the next update coming for your channel? So the, I mean, honestly, probably a while. So last time we updated, I think we said we had three embryos, one girl and two boys, I believe. Yes. And now we've just done another round of IVF and we have now six.

Wow. So six like babies on ice. And like the more obviously is better because there's obviously always a chance that the baby won't take when you put it in a surrogate. I think it's like 50 to 60%. Wow. So we're just trying to get as much as we can. But right now we have six babies. Oh my gosh.

It's not wild. Do you get to like, can you like go visit them? Like how does that work? Okay. So they said on ice, but I don't even really know where they are i'm like is it like are they in a fridge a freezer somewhere you can't have them no wow yeah but we have six healthy embryos they only freeze like the really healthy ones okay so they do the testing beforehand for like genetic testing um and they only like i guess like the size of the egg, the shape of the egg, the fast

swimmingness of the sperm and stuff like that. That all like takes into consideration. And then they only freeze the like A plus ones. And six are A plus. Yes. That's why. Are you guys going to do another round? I think so.

So you like ideally want how many? I don't know. I think like 10 is a good number to me. Because originally in your last update video, your first update video, you said the doctor said like four to five is like good. Yeah. That's great. So like a first, so you're above great right now.

Well, for four to five is great for like one round of IVF, which is that you start your period and then you do like injections for two weeks and then you do egg retrieval and then the sperm goes into the egg and you get embryos. So four to five is great. We only got two the first time. So that wasn't great.

Yeah. So then the second time we got four. And six total. So now we have a total of six. Oh my gosh. Which is fine. But like that's a lot of abuse on Nats's body. Yeah.

So much. With the needles and the hormones and all that. Oh yeah. How often are you guys going to like the doctor and stuff like that? We would go like every other day. Like insane. Wow. And like just like Beverly Hills every single morning.

It just was like three hours of my day. Like just gone. So that's really what you've been doing like full time for the past like two years, three years? Yeah. Wow. And so the injections are how frequent are those? It's two times a day. Oh my gosh.

Yeah, it's a lot. Have you been documenting it all just for yourself? Yes. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you know me. I film everything. That's what I wondered because I remember when we like filmed like your surgery for like your boobs. Oh my gosh, yeah.

Like no idea what that was going to be for. And then you're like, maybe my documentary. So I was like, are you doing a second documentary right now? Well, we're filming, yeah. Oh my god. Do you think you would? Would you ever like... I would, of course. You would make it into like a film, like a movie? Well, yeah. I've never really seen a trans couple, you know,

going through this like baby-making process. And I think that it's really educational. I know I've learned a lot. So I can only imagine somebody who's not in it learning a lot as well. Yeah. Because like no one. And they're not as open as you. Like watching your video.

I mean you share every detail. Everything. You and me. You and me both. Oh girl. I think you share way more. We overshare. Yes.

Overshare. I think we might. Do you want to start a podcast called Oversharing? I have a channel that's going to lose monetization soon if I don't post. What do you mean? There's like a podcast. Am I clueless to another thing? I have a second podcast channel that's going to lose monetization if I don't post.

So I was like, what should I post there? Wait, what? The Oversharing podcast. It's giving crickets. I don't know. I know this one. Okay, that's all you need to know. Just trash and just cheating. Yes, yes. We are the O one. Okay. That's all you need to know.

Just trash and just cheating. Yes. Yes. We are the oversharers. We are the original oversharers. No, it's really amazing though because you do learn so much and I feel like, I don't know, so many people wouldn't think it's possible or just would be like, where to start or is it even possible? Just like don't get it.

Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of ignorance around it for sure. We were even at, I did this, uh, power of women summit yesterday and one of the, um, one of the women there, uh, who was running the event was looking at me and knots and it was like, he's totally going to kill me for saying this, but I think it's like important. He was like, uh, or she, she looked at us and was like, Oh, so which one of you guys is going to carry the baby? And I was like, okay, kind of a slave for me.

Yeah. You think I have a uterus, but also like so rude. Like it's just, you know, people just don't know. I think it's just ignorance. Yeah,

for sure. And yeah, that was a moment where I was like, okay, it's really important that we share our story. That was yesterday. Because you said that at the doctors too, right?

Or someone else was like, Oh, which are you like giving eggs or something? Cause wasn't it in your update video, you shared something that happened like that. Yeah. So we, we started IVF like a few years ago and, um, the, the doctor basically was like, oh, so you're both giving eggs. Would you like like a sperm donor? And I was like, I'm the one giving sperm. What did that feel like? Were you, cause you're so confident.

You're so like comfortable with it. I don't know. I got so shy. I got so, so shy. I like, couldn't like speak up for myself. So I just like let it go. And then like, you know, five minutes later I was like, I actually am donating sperm. What did they say? Um, were they like, Oh my gosh, were they like embarrassed? Yeah. Like a little, yeah. Yeah. It was awkward. Especially with IVF. I feel like you just shouldn't assume anything with anybody. Like, you know, just in, just in general, not making the assumptions. Yeah. And even now, like when I go give blood and stuff, my gender marker on my thing is M, male. Wait, what?

Why? Because I'm giving sperm. But like all the staff are so nice. They're like, oh, like you look so pretty. She, her. Like they put in an effort. But I've noticed that on my thing. And I'm like, oh.

Like psychologically. Trigger. Yeah. Does it? Does it trigger you? Totally. Are you kidding me? Yeah.

Yeah. Because it's just like seeing that and just – Yeah. Oh, that's so weird. It's for the bigger purpose though. Yeah, but that's so silly because like females can obviously give sperm. So that's such a – they should just change that. Exactly.

Like it's 2023. Yeah, I agree. Wow. Yeah. So – okay. So you went a couple years ago. So when did you start the journey? Three years ago?

Yeah. And so that's when you went and you had zero sperm. Zero. Which is – so because you were still on hormones. Yes. So I've been on hormones for like 10 years. And basically that just up your sperm count. Like when you look at sperm under a magnifying glass, it's, they're like all vibrating, they're all swimming. And sometimes there's like, you know, 2 million, sometimes there's like 50 million. And with mine, I guess none were swimming. They were all just stagnant.

Wow. Yeah. So when I got that, I was like, I got to really change my lifestyle. Like I got to start taking care of myself. I have to start, you know, stop hormones. And, uh, it was like a year and a half in that my sperm started swimming again. Wow. Yeah. Were you surprised? Were you shocked? I was gagged. Yeah. I was like, there's no way my sperm are just randomly going to start swimming again. That's crazy. But that's so cool. That's like, oh, the body is like such a miracle. Like, you know what I mean? Isn't it crazy that you can just produce that again after 10 years on hormones? Yeah. It was like a full circle moment for sure. Yeah. Cause I just thought like, there's no way, like I was like the specimen looked normal. So I was like, there's no way there're not swimming. Like, there's so much there.

Yeah. Like, the load is gorge. I was like, there's no f***ing way. And then just all of a sudden, they were like, oh, yeah, this batch has, like, swimmers in it. Wow. Oh, my God. And then it, like, doubled, you said, like, the next time you went, right? Yep, it doubled.

You said in your video, you're like, I manifested more sperm. And I was like, I love that. We're all about manifestations. I really did though, I feel. I know that's true when they tell you good news and you're just like, oh, this is so great. So you just like keep thinking of more good news and it happens. Yes.

It's like mind over matter. I really believe in that. I believe in it too, a thousand percent. It's like they say that with like money with everything. So crazy. We're going to be mamas together. That's so crazy. I know.

So what do you think? So you're thinking, if you want to talk about this, you're going to be mamas together. That's so crazy. So what do you think? So you're thinking, do you, if you want to talk about this, you're going to do the implantation next summer? I don't know. I feel like next year is cute. Next year. So it feels right. Yeah. We'll see. Cause yeah, we're definitely going to do a surrogate. Nats is not going to carry. I'm not getting an uterus put in me. Which you can do. You said, which is like, yeah, I've heard of, I've heard of trans girls doing that. Wow. Which is crazy. Cause I feel like that's puts the baby in danger, but I would love to carry a baby. Like I'm so jelly that you're pregnant. Like that's so beautiful. Thank you. But I don't know if I would want to do that to my, I feel like it puts the baby in danger, but I also don't know enough

about it. So yeah, I didn't even know that was possible. I said, I was like, I wonder if it's going to be possible one day to carry a baby. It is. It's probably not safe for it though. I didn't even know that was possible. As I said, I was like, I wonder if it's going to be possible one day to carry a baby. It is. It's probably not safe for it, though. I don't know. I'm like, even putting an embryo in a surrogate, I'm like a little nervous about that. Yeah, no. Science can be crazy.

Like, all that stuff is crazy. I mean, just anything, though. Like, being pregnant overweight. Like, all that stuff can, like, be a factor. Being pregnant over 35, you know, it's all, like, could be dangerous. Right. But I think everything now is, like, C-section anyways. And, like, that's what I did, a C-section.-section. So I just take it out of me and make sure she's

safe. Yeah, definitely. So have you talked about gender yet? If you doing the boys or girls? Um, no. Well, I want a boy first. Okay. Also like, I just, I, I've spoken so like against like gender reveals and like gendering your baby before whatever. Yeah. And I'm like, now I'm kind of into it. Yes, I know. Like I'm like totally like switched. I'm like, you know, if, if, because we have four, four girls and two boys, it's like if we put a boy in a surrogate, it's like, it's going to be a boy until it tells us otherwise.

Yeah. And I think that that's fine. Yeah. You know? Do you? Because I, I wondered about that too. I do. Yeah.

Because you know like Emrata, how she was like, you know, my baby Sylvester or whatever her baby's name is. I didn't know she had a baby. No. Yeah. Amrata. She said like, um, I'm not going to call my baby him or her until, you know, they can speak their truth. And then all of a sudden she's like my baby boy. Oh, okay. When it came out, she changed. Yeah. I was like, what is it with all that? Yeah. I'm so torn with it too. Like I like the idea of just like not giving gender, like just in general, but it is hard. I don't know when you have the baby, then it's like pink and blue. It's like exciting. Yeah. I don't know if I'm going to do pink or blue. I don't know if it's a girl, I'm totally going to do pink. Yeah. I said to, I'm like guilty of this before we had her. I was like, I'm going to have a non gender. I don't want gender. I don't want

it. Whatever. And then I named my baby like Malu Barbie with a pink roof. You know what I mean? Hyper feminine. I know. It's so tough because I feel like I really don't want to be for it, but it's just fun. I know. You want to celebrate your baby in any way. That's interesting. Yeah, I always wondered what you thought on it. Yeah, I was really against it before because I would see all these gender reveal parties with

these fireworks of blue powder and pink powder. I'm like, this is gross. But then I was like, oh, if I'm pregnant, I'm probably going to do that too. I felt the same thing. I know. Cause then you're just like, okay, this is like exciting. Yeah. I retract. I could, I could feel differently tomorrow. Yeah. I go back and forth with it too. I'm just like, but you know what the flip side of that is? I see gender reveals where people are disappointed. Like they have like too many girls and like, well, one day they may not be a girl. Then you'll get the son of your dreams. You know what I mean? You've seen a video of someone being like devastated?

Oh, you haven't seen those? No. They're all over TikTok. We watch them all the time. Like literally it'll be like four girls and then they get another girl. And the dad literally will be like, no. Like he'll just get so mad. That's terrible.

Or they like will literally just like leave the reveal if it's like another girl. You haven't seen those. Those are our whole TikTok. Also, it's your fucking fault, dude. Right? The sperm decides the gender. I know. So be mad at yourself.

It does. Wait, how do you know that? They told you that? The doctor said, yeah. Really? Yeah. What does that mean? The way it swims or what?

I don't know. It's just the chromosomes. It's X or X or X and Y. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's wild. I know. And my dad has four brothers.

Speaking of my dad, you spent the whole day with him when I got my first boob job. Remember that? Yes. No, I love your dad. That was wild. I'm like, what did you guys talk about? He was so sweet. We went and got like cake next door.

I know. It was like real. No, he was actually, your dad is literally the sweetest person. He's a little angel. After wedding too, he was like talking to everybody. Like I literally came by myself like plus one day. No one even wanted to talk to me. He's like talked to everybody.

And it's like your big day. He's so, he's so cute. He's amazing. He's a little showman. I love him. He loves it. Yeah. But he doesn't know you're doing a wife yet. No, he doesn't. But you guys are so close. I know. I probably should have told him, huh? Yeah, you will. Well now you can call him. Maybe not. You want to call him right now? I'll just let him hit me up. I love him. What were you saying about your dad oh yeah my my dad

has four brothers and basically my whole family is boys there's very few girls and Nat says his side is mostly men as well wow so I'm like how do we end up with so many girls and you're so weird yeah and then now you want a boy you don't know the boy to add that why I want, um, like the older brother to take care of like the younger sister or younger brother. Like I just want like a, like a older sibling. Cause you have older brothers, right? I have one older brother, one younger. Oh, you're the middle. I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Having an older brother, I have an older brother too. And I was like, it just felt comforting. Yeah. I always felt better with it. Yeah. Oh my God. That'd be so cute. Do you have any names for that? You don't have to say the one, but do you have like names you love?

Yes. Okay. Let me know. Obsessed. Okay. Tell me. I, well, I can't say cause that's what will kill me. Okay.

Don't, you don't have to say the one. I like names though. Like I like, um, I like gender neutral names. Can you say the one, can you say the one you love and we'll bleep it? I promise we'll bleep it. Or do you not want to say it? I don't want to say it. Okay.

Don't say it. Well, I will say we wanted to, this is so obnoxious and disgusting. We wanted to name our firstborn son Adonis Getty. Oh, I love it. Wait, don't say it. Well, I will say we wanted to, this is so obnoxious and disgusting. We wanted to name our firstborn son Adonis Getty. Oh, I love it. Wait, why is that bad? Adonis? Adonis is so obnoxious. It's like a Greek god or something. Yeah, it's like Thor or like Hercules or

something. We wanted to name our boy Thor. Really? Yeah. Oh my God, stop. I'm not kidding. I didn't even know that. We said that. We're literally like, if we have a boy, we're going to name him Thor. It's a lot to live up to. Adonis is everything. Adonis Getty. Adonis Getty is a lot to live up to. I feel like it's a moment, but Drake named his baby Adonis. Oh, what does it mean? I don't know. I never heard that name before. I don't know. It's just like a Greek strong man. I love that. I don't know. Adonis is cute. What other cute ones for boys? Um, we liked, um,

light for boys or girls. L II-T-E. Okay. L-I-T-E. That's cute. I love that you have the gender neutral for both. Yeah. Yeah. I've always gravitated towards that. I had a crush on a guy in high school named Ashton.

Oh, cute. Yeah. And I always liked Ashton for a girl or a boy. Yeah. Ashton's cute. Yeah. Taylor is very boy girl. I mean, it's kind of overdone now, but. Yeah.

Too traditional. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Charlie. Yeah. Yeah. We give birth.

It's like Matthew. You probably would. I feel like his daddy. I kind of like the traditional too, but. Yeah, too traditional. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Charlie. Yeah. Yeah. We give birth, it's like Matthew. You probably would. I feel like his Getty. I kind of like the traditional too, though, but it's just too, like I want them to stand alone. Yeah. You wouldn't name him after your dad or something or Nat's dad or. No. No.

No. But Getty too, I feel like you should do a G. G, G, G, G. Yeah. Like, I don't know. Gutenberg Getty. Gutenberg? Gutenberg. Gutenberg. Are you German? I don't know. Gutenberg, Getty. Gutenberg? Guten talk. Are you German? I don't know. Oh, I think you, I thought you were. Maybe. You don't know what you are? I'm like

Irish, Italian. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know your tongue. Just white, white, white, white, white. Okay. Yeah. I don't know either. I'm going to do a 23 and me. I don't know what I am, but. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm Neanderthal though. Wait, what? Yeah. Like 70% Neanderthal, like caveman. I'm not kidding. That's not a thing. It is on the app. We're all cavemen. No, but like you carry more stereotypes. Of what? I don't know. I don't know. Oh my God. I'm having a dumb blonde moment. I love a Neanderthal moment. It is a dumb blonde moment. No, I love a Neanderthal moment. It is a real thing, though. Everyone with 23andMe.

Neanderthal are like, aren't they dumb? Like when you call someone a Neanderthal, you call them like dumb or ditzy. I think it's like the features. Like your like, your brow bone. But you have no Neanderthal. They like had their brows sticking out. Well, I got mine taken off. Oh, actually? With my face.

Yeah, I had like a big brow bone. Wait, really? I remember you did your hairline. Yeah. Did you like doing that? I want to do that. Mine's like receding. Really? Did you, was it painful? It was too painful, though, really? I remember you did your hairline. Yeah. Did you like doing that? I want to do that. Mine's like receding. Really?

Did you, was it painful? It was too painful though, right? It just takes a fucking long time to recover. Yeah. And you showed all that on your YouTube too. Like you showed everything. Everything. I had black eyes.

It took eight hours to do. And then the growing out process is so disgusting. It all like falls out, scabs. Oh, really? Yeah. The hair follicle, like, um, it basically like projects itself out and then it starts growing like a month later. Oh my gosh. Why? Why does it fall out first? I have no idea. It's like stimulation or something. Yeah. And

people like go to get it like two or three times. It's just like a to do. You just did once. I just did once. Is there any that you regret surgeries that you're like, I shouldn't have done that. Or I don't, I wish I wanted to do that. I got, it wasn't a surgery, but I got like illegal silicone put in my butt. I saw that recently. That's wild. I regret that for sure. Where did you go? Was it here in the States? It was in New York. Yeah. Oh yeah. And my friend introduced me to it and she basically was like, oh, I know this girl. We call her Lisa. She, um, we call her our personal trainer. Cause like whenever like we get pumped people will be like Oh, you look like really good. They'll be like, oh, I just saw lisa my personal trainer. Oh my gosh

So it's like a shady underground. It's not like advertised. No, it's completely illegal Oh my god, and you get it done in like a hotel room And it's just so so jarring. They don't give you any like numbing cream. Nothing They use a huge gauge needle to shove it in your butt. What do Do they numb you? Are you out? Are you under anesthesia? No, it's nothing. It's just you take all the pain. And then they- There's no numbing even?

Nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. She comes in with a bag and you're laying on the hotel bed and then she does it to you. Wait, why did you do this? You have such a good butt. I just wanted more hips. Like I just didn't really love myself at that moment. Wait, when was this?

It was like 2014, 15. Oh, and you just recently did the story time about it. I did. Because I wrote about it in my book. Oh, this was this? It was like 2014, 15. Oh, and you just recently did the story time about it. I did. Because I wrote about it in my book. Oh, this one or you said she got it?

Yeah, because it's like a cautionary tale. Like I really wanted to let people know because I know, especially in like the trans community, I know a bunch of cis girls

who have had it done also. Oh, yeah, I know. That specific doctor, I won't say like who, but I know people who like, I'm sure it's the same one because it's New York. When you said New York,

I was like, I know. Yeah, there's a bunch. Like singers and yeah. Yes, like influencers, they've all had it done. And I know people who like I don't I'm sure it's the same one because it's New York when you said New York I was like I know yeah there's a bunch singers and yeah yes like it's like influencers they've all had time and I know it's like a very like fabulous thing to be like oh like just got pumped right have silicone here they're everywhere like it's cute but like girls die from it and it's very dangerous oh wait why do they die is the complications they die or during the surgery if it hits a nerve or hits a vein, it can go to like your heart. And there's, they say you, you're not supposed to inject silicone from the waist up because it's too close to like your heart and like your brain and stuff.

So that's why it's like kind of safer to do it in like your butt and hips. Does it harden the silicone once it goes inside? I don't know. Like, did it feel hard? Did it feel? It just felt like a big bruise to me. Yeah. And they like seal it with super glue. So they do it, seal it feel hard? Did it feel? It just felt like a big bruise to me. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. It hurt. And they, like, seal it with super glue. So they do it, seal it with super glue, and then a Band-Aid. It was so gnarly.

Oh, my gosh. And after, I got it done, like, probably two, three times. And after every time, I was like, what did I just do? Wait. What were you? You were just, like, addicted to the. But it didn't even really do anything. Right.

That's the thing. Like, I never noticed, oh, my God, my butt's bigger. Just like placebo. Like, you're like, oh, I look pumped, and I'm. Yeah, I just wanted to be, like, more feminine, and I would do anything to That's the thing. Like I never noticed, oh my God, my butt's bigger. Just like placebo. Like you're like, oh, I look pumped and I'm. Yeah. I just wanted to be like more feminine and I would do anything to do to get that, attain that. And you never, I guess you could never do like a BBL because you never had fat to like put anywhere. Exactly. So that's what the option was. Yeah. And have you done anything since to like your butt? No. Just squats. Yeah. I was going to say, you've always had a good one. You've always had, because I knew you

would do more in 2014. And I was just like, that's wild that you would do that. I know. Very dangerous. But again, surgeries, yeah. How many total have you had surgeries? I don't know. Three boob jobs. FFS.

I think I got like five things done at once. Maybe like 10. Oh, that's, yeah. Okay. Or maybe less than 10. Heidi Montag did that in like one setting. She did 10. She did.

I love surgery. The thing is, I love plastic surgery and I would love to get more. But now I'm scared of it. The older I get, the more I'm like, what if I die? You know what I mean? You have more to lose now. That's what I'm saying. Before, I was like, I didn't care either.

I was like, oh, if I die, whatever. At least I won't know. That's exactly how I felt. I was like, ah, live fast, die young. Yeah. So would you do it now? No. You would never do any surgeries?

No. I love surgery. I can't wait for like my neck lift, face lift. Nothing illegal though. Oh, okay. But you would still do plastic surgery in the future. Oh yeah. Oh, you would. Totally. I'm scared of just that. Even getting like my boobs done again. I'm like, oh, what if I like die or something? Really? But it's so, it's like safe. It is such a simple one. I know. But I get, I just get nervous. Like the older I get. I guess there are risks. Yeah. Cause like when you're older and stuff like that, you could like. I'm like itching to get something

else done. Wait, what? I don't know why. No, why? I love, I just love it. I love surgery too. I love surgery. I love when girls just look so like fake. I love all of it. It looks so good. I don't like the overdone look necessarily like on me, even though some people might say that I do look overdone. No, you look perfect now. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, because I feel like you could go extreme because I'm like you too, where I'm just like bigger. Remember the lip injections we'd get? Just like the biggest lips. Beyond. Oh my God. I went with you for the first time ever. The first lip injections was when we were together.

I remember in OC. Yes. In your red Benz. Mercedes, yes. Yes. And we had the visors on. Oh my God, yes. I don't want anyone to see us.

I was so scared. I didn't want to do it. I was going to like leave. No, but then she got addicted. I got addicted. You did so much. You turned me on to lip injections. You're like, you're going to love them.

Oh my God. And I did. And then I would start like overfilling. It would go over my mouth. The migration. Yes. I was addicted. But now no one is lip filler.

Do you still do lip filler? I don't. I haven't done it in like four years, but it's like three, I guess. Your lips look so full, though. They look so full. I think because I just got stuck permanently. Yeah, it's like scar tissue. Yes.

Is that what it is? I think so. Because it won't go down. And I want them to go down because I feel like, okay, I kind of miss my like littler lips. I think you look perfect right now. Yeah. Okay, thanks. I did love it. it won't go down. And I want them to go down because I feel like, okay, I kind of miss my like littler lips. I think you look perfect right now. Really? Okay, thanks.

I did love it. I loved it so much. I was so addicted. I look back and I'm like, woo! We'll get facelifts when we're 50. Oh, facelift for sure. I can't wait. Yeah, because like you see Kris Jenner and stuff and I was like, damn, she looks really

good. Oh my God. My husband actually just got, he had filler in his jaw and it was like causing him a lot of pain. So he got it surgically removed with like, and he has like the facelift scar around the ear. How was that? It was.

Was it gnarly? It was painful. Yeah. And like I saw photos of like his face ripped open. I was like, what is going on? Like from filler? Okay. Yeah.

Filler can be crazy. Especially like here. Like it just wasn't attaching right. Cause like, like bone, like it's supposed to attach to the bone, I think. Oh, so where was it attaching to? I don't know. It was just floating filler. Oh, I guess it like just wasn't attaching right because like bone – like it's supposed to attach to the bone I think. Oh, so where was it attaching to? I don't know. It was just floating filler. Oh, I know.

They can do that with your eye too. Like if you get your nose filled, like they'll like – it can go blind. Like it can be so close to your eyes. How horrible. Like I've never done the nose. Imagine. Yeah. I always wanted to get nose – because like if you get your nose injected, it gets smaller.

And I always wanted to do that but I was like so scared. Wait, really? Yeah. Also, how much smaller can your nose get? You're like – Mine is not. It's a tiny nose. No, it's wide, but it's fine. I didn't know that. Yeah. It's like, it makes it, it's supposed to make it smaller or whatever, but.

I love that. I want that. No, your nose is perfect. Have you had your nose done? I just had the top done. Cause when I got my like caveman brow removed. It was never a caveman. It really was. It would hang over. As long as I've known you, which I really think you were like 17 when I knew you, you never had that. I would always wear bangs. That's true. I guess you had the- The Justin Bieber swoop.

Yes. No, it was very like Princess Diana. I thought that's like- Oh my God. So much better. Not Justin Bieber. Yes, yes, yes. Because we met, oh my gosh.

I was looking back. Your first interview was 15 years ago in 2008, which is crazy. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. How old years ago in 2008, which is crazy. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. How old were you in 2008? Were you 16? Must have been. 15? Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's crazy. Hi, babe.

Yay. Welcome. Oh, yes. Okay. Oh my God. You look so good. Oh, you look amazing. How are you? Oh my gosh. It's literally been so long. Hi. Aw. You need a been so long. Hey. Aw. You need a YouTube channel. You guys. We turned into like a couple YouTube channel.

How come you never done that? You guys never did like couple videos? Like, I mean, you know, like he's on with you, but like. I don't know. I think it's cringe. What? Couples? I do too. A little bit.

Like when couples. Do you remember like Jessie and that girl, that blonde girl? Oh, what was her name? The YouTube couple. Prank versus prank? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Cringe. Yeah. They were. They YouTube couple. Prank versus prank? Yes. Yes, yeah. Cringe.

Yeah. They always fake their pranks too. All the pranks were fake. Yeah, it's like, what are you guys doing? I actually agree with you. I think it's so cringe. That's why everyone's like, you and Moses should try a podcast. I'm like, I don't like podcast couples because it's like, they agree on everything.

It's just like too much. It's too cheesy. You end up agreeing on everything. Yeah. And it's like, if you fight, then it's like actually weird. Because it's like, you know what I mean? If it's fighting, then it's weird too. So I was just like, I don't want any of this.

I don't want any pun. Yeah, like kumbaya. Yeah. No, but you guys are like such a cute couple. You're just like iconic because you're like the Gettys. That could be a reality show. Love the Gettys. The Gettys.

Oh, we've been offered. Oh my God. Why haven't you done it? We like toyed with the idea of doing it. But it was like, it's just not cute. Why? I don't know. I feel like reality TV like ruins people's lives.

I don't think, look at the Kardashians. Like I feel like Well, they're in control. Well, you guys would be in control. You'd have to be producers. We weren't offered producers though. They just wanted to like fully infiltrate the life. Yeah, no, I don't see that happening. I was scared. I was like, ugh. Especially because that's like so iconic and the family's so

iconic. It would be like. They'd want to get into all the nitty grgrittiness. Oh, yeah. Like bringing up stuff you don't want to talk about. Totally. Yeah. And like we have no choice but to talk about it then. It's like –

And then with you, you would just talk about it. I would. And then sorry, babe. And they won't let you edit it. They'll be like, sorry, you said it. Exactly. Which is why you'd be so good for reality TV. Would you ever do Housewives?

I would. I would. Wait, really? Yeah, because it's not like – it's about me. But it's drama. It is. It's fake drama. Would you be in the fakewives? I would. I would. Wait, really? Yeah, because it's not like, it's about me. But it's drama. Like, I know it's fake drama. Would you be in the fake drama? I would.

I would ask the producers, like, what do you want me to say? Would you start shit with people? Maybe. I don't know. I say that now, but I'm like so non-confrontational. I get so scared. You never have been drama. I hate it.

It's actually crazy. I think about, like, I was thinking our past friendships and stuff like that. And even if I hated someone and they hated me, you're like, I just like everybody. Like, you would never talk shit about anyone. Do you remember? Oh, I would talk shit about people, though, with you. Yeah. We were just talking shit over McDonald's.

But not about your friends. Like, you would be friends with someone and I'm like, oh, I don't like her. But you would never be like, oh, yeah, she's trash. But you're like, no, she's cute. Yeah. Yeah. You're very, like, loyal to your friends. Thanks.

Like, who are we talking crap about? Who are we talking? Yeah. Oscar. We definitely were going in on some people. Thanks. Like who are we talking crap about? Were we talking? Yeah. Were we? We definitely were going in on some people. No. Like 100%. No.

I feel like we were being cute. What? Like it was cute. It wasn't like. No we weren't. I can name two right now. But are they like bad people? Yeah.

Both of them are terrible. Okay. Okay. But that's different. And we hate them. I'm in my love area. I love everybody. No drama. I've been drama free Trish for so long. I'm in my love area. I love everybody. No drama.

I've been drama-free, Trish, for so long. That's why I was like, wait, did I say, sometimes it's so in me that sometimes I just like, especially when I see you, I'm just like, okay, let's back to 2007. Let's get it. Oh my God, we totally were back in the day just now with the McDonald's.

It's crazy. You know what's funny? I feel like you bring the drama now. You don't bring the drama and talk about it. You host the drama. Okay. Because you're like Wendy Williams. I love that one.

Right? So much. Hosting the drama. Yes, yes. I'm the hot topic. I'm not the hot topic. I talk about the hot topic. Yes.

Until she became the hot topic. Remember, her husband cheated on her, had a mistress. It was really bad. And she was like put away. She hasn't been seen since February. Yeah. Like no one's seen her. The last photo of her, her eyes were like really wide.

Oh, yeah. And she was walking out of like a loose skin on the knees and stuff. Like she did not look good. That would be like aging. Poor girl though. Yeah, she like passed out on the show. I mean it's like sad. Oh, the pass out? Yeah, where her like eyes rolled. It was sad. Very sad. Yeah. Yeah, it's cocaine, right? No, I don't think so. We don't know. Allegedly. Nobody knows. Graves. Oh,. Nobody knows. Graves. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Well, it's sad. It's very sad. Yeah. Well, you're the new her, so. Yeah, for the next 20 years. You are. Thank you so much. You are.

Look at you. Oh, my gosh. Oh, thank you. You're my favorite podcast ever. I'm so excited to be here. No, I'm so excited to see you just because like I just, we've just like been friends for so long. We've never had drama. We've never had drama.

You've never had drama. Like you've never been canceled. No problematic past, like anything like that. Is there any cancellations that you've seen over the years where you're like surprised like someone got canceled? Like, or no, are you always like, that makes sense? Not really. I feel like everyone's so sensitive, right?

Like, oh, you think like people in general? A little bit. Cause sometimes people get canceled, like, like things that like, okay, like is it that deep? You know what? Recently, actually, I was, I was really surprised. The Matt Rife cancellation. Oh, you think like people in general? A little bit. Because sometimes people get canceled for like things that like, okay, is it that deep? You know what? Recently, actually, I was really surprised. The Matt Rife cancellation. Oh, wait.

Why were you surprised? Because I didn't see it. So I didn't see it. But I know what it was about. You don't see anything and you're like, I'm surprised. Yeah, I was really, really shocked by that. No, I didn't watch his special or whatever the f***ing happened. Okay, wait, wait.

How do you think of the cancellation? How do you think of the Matt Rife? Like, what do you think happened? He talked about an abusive joke. Right. Domestic abuse. Okay, wait, wait. How do you think of the cancellation? How do you think of the Matt Rife? Like, what do you think happened? He talked about an abusive joke. Right. Domestic abuse. Yes, yes, yeah. Right, like get back in the kitchen or whatever. Yeah. I was so shocked that people were that pissed about that because it's like that's what comedians do. Yes.

I normally would agree with you, but he's like so painfully unfunny and he said he like doesn't like women and he doesn't like women as his audience. Yeah, I heard you talk about that too. Yeah, I don't know. I think he's just really cringe a little bit. Like I saw his promotion for his special and it. I heard, I heard you talk about that too. Yeah. I think he's just really cringe a little bit. Like I saw his promotion for his special and it was like cops arresting. Did you, did you see that? No.

It's like a little like minute clip where he like was promoting his tour. Oh. And it's like him getting like bum rushed out, like out of a building or something like that. And there's cops and he's like, yeah, I know I'm painfully attractive, but just like all that. He's like, what? You can't have perfect teeth and a nice

jaw and like all that i was like but you know he wrote that for himself you know what i mean did you see it moses yeah it's like it's giving like are you kidding me like homie might need a slap in the face okay so you get why people are trying to like cancel it i do it's cringe it's cringe yeah but like comedians have said we're shit i know i think because he's just so unfunny it's just like do you know what i mean like to make a joke like that i feel like you have to be like dave chapelle or something where it's just like makes sense because it was just like did it makes i don't know yeah so you watched it um we watched the first like 10 minutes where the joke was in and like yeah the joke definitely was offensive but then it's just like the rest of it was just i don't know i'm talking about girls like having

crystals and i was like just like weird jokes that like didn't hit. Which is like, just not funny. Just not funny. I think that's what it is. And then like him just being like, I'm for men. I'm not for women. But like his whole audience is women. So I think that's where they're just like, we don't like you. That's where people go.

Right? Yeah. Like they're like obsessed with him. Yeah. They think he's like so hot. They don't like him. Yeah. But yeah, it's like to me, I get turned off right away when someone's like, oh, I'm just

so hot. That's why I like people like me. And I don't know. Just let people tell you you're hot. And have you seen him before his surgery? Speaking of surgeries. Yes. Did you see it?

Wait, he actually had surgery? Yes. It's him and the surgeon, like, in each other's arms. And it's. Allegedly, we'll say for the podcast. Wait, you know what? It's funny. He says he hasn't had anything but what?

His teeth done, his veneers. Definitely the teeth. But he's saying he hasn't had anything else. But if you've seen him before. Yes. So I. He's saying he hasn't had anything else, but if you've seen him before... Yes, so I... He's saying he hit puberty at 23. That's what he said. That's impossible. Is he a trans woman?

I hit puberty too. Born again. I hosted MTV's TRL with him. Oh my god. Wait, what? Yeah. Like years ago, Remember? I remember. Yeah. Wait, Matt, I remember Gabby, Hannah, Liza, and you.

Yep. And was it Ava? Life as Ava? Yeah. Yeah. I remember. And I was so jealous of everyone that got to host TRL. Yeah, it was like years ago. And I had in my contract, it was like, you have to be, and I was like, in LA, obviously.

TRL's in New York, iconically. Yes. And they were like, okay, so contractually, you have to fly out to New York like 24 times in the year. Oh my God. So I was like, oh my God, I'm going to be bi-coastal. Oh, I love. I was so excited. They called me once. Wait, why? So I only ever went to New York once for TRL. Oh my God, I'm so confused. Why? I don't know. Was it on TV or was it digital? It was on TV. Yeah. And you guys were actually like in Times Square where Carson Daly would be? With the glass, with the live studio audience, everything. Hosting music videos, like counting down music videos. Yeah. They called me in and I was like, okay, so what am I doing? Am I like hosting anything? And

they're like, no, you're being interviewed. So I like walked out, I like dropped my jacket, like made a huge entrance, walked over. I think I talked to like Matt and somebody else and they just interviewed me for like two minutes. Matt Rife interviewed you. I think Matt, I don't know who interviewed me. He was backstage though. Yeah. He said, she said. I'm a host of this show, but like I'm just being interviewed.

So I was like, okay. That's so weird. Less work for me. Were you so sad though? Because hosting TRL, it's like holding these microphones reminds me of TRL. I'd rather be here with you. Aw. That's why I feel like we have a podcast.

You know what I mean? We need. Just us. Literally. That's literally my podcast now. It's just us and there's like Oscar and Moses too. Actually, there's the other people. There's actually quite a few more people here. And we have our live studio audience. We have a live studio audience. Kelly and Matt, they're drinking beer. Yes. Oh, I love cheers. We get our audience drunk. I love an audience. I swear I want to set up like an audience where people can, because I love when people are here. It's just like such good energy. Yes.

You know what this could be like? Very much watch what happens live. I love. Have you ever been on there? No, you have though. You were the bartender. Or were you a guest? You bartended.

I did bartending twice. But never a guest? Never a guest. Oh, I'm shook. No, it was like housewives and stuff on there. But it's very much this. Really? It's tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny. Oh, really? Right? Like how many people? Like 15. No way. And they're like right there. It looks huge. Okay. So it's the same vibe. And the TVs are like right

on the ground there. Oh, you would never know. Have you talked to Andy? Are you like friends with him? How do you get on that show? Um, my like team. Okay. So they put you still with Scott? Oh my God. I like follow him on Instagram. He has like a little daughter too. I know. They're like bougie having the bougie parties. I, like, follow him on Instagram. He has, like, a little daughter, too. I know. They're, like, bougie, having the bougie parties. I was like, oh, my God, can we be friends with your daughter? Like, they're so bougie. A hundred percent. I think they have the same birthday, but a year apart.

Wait, really? Yeah, I think, I know it's, like, in September or something like that. Oh, my God. So you worked with him, oh, my God, like, literally since, you guys were, like, were you at Starbucks together or something? Was he at Starbucks? He was at Starbucks. I was at McDonald's.

That's, oh, my God. Full circle. We just had McDonald's. That's crazy. That's wild. I know. Crazy. I remember's. Oh my God. Full circle. We just had McDonald's. That's crazy. That's wild. I know. Crazy. I remember. Oh my God. And I remember meeting you guys and he was so young and I was like, this guy's going to be a manager. And now he's like the biggest. And like on emails, he's like, I'm 10 years older than I really am. Oh really? Like the only person to act older. Yes. Well, he seems like in general, like I forget he's younger than me because just in

general, he seems, oh my God. So you're still working full with them. Yep. Oh my God. So they're getting you all these like deals and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, oh my god, so you're still working full with them. Yep. Oh my god, so they're getting you all these, like, deals and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean me and Andy, we have, like, said a few words to each other, but not, like, close, tight. Oh, you haven't. So if he asked you to be, he could ask you to be in Housewives. I don't really get who he is. Is he, like... I don't know either. I think he's just, like, full-time host, right? Like, there must be, like, a... I think he

owns Bravo. Does he? Right? Yeah, he's, like, the Ryan Seacrest of Bravo. But does he own Bravo? No. That would be gorgeous. He had that whole moment where he like asked you like what would your tagline be? Oh, yeah. Your tagline was

great. It was like people think I'm a bitch or something. And that was it? People think I'm a bitch. Silence. I loved it. I think Tracy Ellis Ross was there that day. Oh, that's iconic. I love her. That's a good tagline. I always try to think of my tag was there that day oh that's iconic that's a good tagline I always try to think of my tagline and I have none Oscar is my writer he thinks of mine

what was my tagline you would have a good one I don't have any what would mine be do you know do you have one I don't know I'm so bad I'd be like I'm not the baddest bitch here I'm the fattest yes there's no like plus size people on there. I'm ready for that.

Or because of all your mukbangs, maybe it's just like you turn around and it's just like a rapper. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. Stay three nights this summer at Best Western and get $50 off a future stay. Life's a trip. Make the most of it at Best Western. Visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. Wait, that's the tagline? Just ASMR? That would be good.

No words. Just a sound. That would be everything, actually. That's actually really good. I don't think they would have me on because it's all like really skinny people. It's like Selling Sunset. I don't think it's a weight thing because it's all like really skinny people. It's like Selling Sunset. I don't think it's a weight thing. They're all on Ozempic.

Oh, they're all on Ozempic. I think. Allegedly. It's not a weight thing. They just don't want you. I like to say that. Everything that I don't get, I'm like, it's probably because I'm fat. You know what I mean?

Everyone's like, I don't know if that's why. It's probably because I'm trans. Yeah. That's what Matt Rife says. He's like, I'm just tired of people liking me because I'm just so You know what I mean? Everyone's like, I don't know if that's why. It's probably because I'm trans. Yeah. That's what Matt Rife says. He's like, I'm just tired of people liking me because I'm just so good looking. They don't look at my comedy. I'm like, no. How do you get away with saying that, though? Like, that makes me want to kill myself.

I know. Like, how do you say that and not, like, die? No, I know. It's actually, like, it's embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. Even if you were so beautiful, it's like, nobody would say that. You just wouldn't say that. Yeah.

Yeah. But we don't say that. We just exude it. Yeah, exactly. We just know't say that. Yeah. Yeah. But we don't say that. He's a little. We just exude it. Yeah, exactly. We just know it. So going back to him. So TRL, I was backstage and I didn't know who he was. But I noticed that he like had a really strong jaw and like big lips.

And I was like, oh. Oh, back then? How long ago was this? It was like three years, four years. I noticed though. I was like, this guy has really big lips. So we're in the makeup chair, like sitting side by side. And I just asked him, I was like, oh, are your lips real?

And he was like, yep, they're real. Oh, just straight up. I was like, oh, are your lips real? And he was like, yep, they're real. Oh, just straight up. I was like, yeah, I was just wondering, and he, like, laughed it off, whatever. But, yeah, he definitely had, like, strong features back then. Oh. So maybe he just got it done? I don't know. I guess that was, like, a long time, like, five years ago, maybe, because I thought it was all recent, because Wild N' Out, he definitely

had, like, small lips. No, this was, yeah, he looked how he looks now. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. We'll have to look at the before and after photos, because, honestly, like, him was yeah he looks he looked how he looks now okay okay yeah i don't know we'll have to look at the before and after photos because honestly like him as a kid he looked like kylie with like the no lips you know and all of a sudden they got these big lips and like weak chin weak jaw yeah i wish people would just like be honest you know what i mean just i guess guys are a little more like self-conscious about admitting what they get done yeah i don't know i like when people are honest though me too just let us know about you and i always like loved bringing about my surgeries i was like look at me affording this surgery I don't know. I like when people are honest though. Me too. Just let us know. That's what I love about you. And I always like loved bringing him on my surgeries. I was like, look

at me affording this surgery. See, you don't have to say what doctor, but tell us you got it done. Oh, I love when people say what doctor. Me too. I always will. But it's like, if you're that insecure, you don't have to say what doctor, but let us know you got your boobs done. Yeah. I never say my doctor cause they like botched it. They botched me. Wait, you went to mine, didn't you? That's the one that did my first. Okay. bleep that out. Because he messed mine up. He messed mine up too. Well, I was working with nothing. I was so flat.

So he just shoved them in. They were like two balls. Did they bust or something? No, I had silicone every time. Nothing ever happened like that. But just the shape and the, oh, one nipple actually burst. Mine did. Mine's stitching.

So I have the scarring and it's so bad. I got them done two times since then though. So they cut off the nipple and burst. Yeah. Mine did. Mine's stitching. Yeah. And so I have the scarring and it's so bad stuff. I got them done two times since then though. Okay. So they cut off the nipple and like fixed it all. Okay. So it's better. But it was just too big, too tight. And yeah, one went like the side stitch.

That's crazy because I thought mine just did that because they were just like too big or something like that. No. And then you can like see in it. Like it like. Yeah. That's what happened. Yeah.

You like see inside you. Like it doesn't scab up. It's like so tight. I didn't see it. My sister did it. She changed my bandages for me and she said that too. She's like, you just was like this. It's inside.

That happened with my lip lift too. I got. Oh, you got a lip lift? Everything dissolved and then I got my lip lifted. The lip flip? Is that what it is? No, it's like surgical. So they like, I dissolved all my lips and then they cut right under here.

And then they basically like remove like a little bit of skin and then it goes up. Oh, okay. And I was laughing in one side burst. It did? You saw it? It was like just blood or inside or? It's just red. Yeah, because I guess that area is not that bad because it's like so much cartilage.

Oopsies. My gosh, you've had a couple burst injuries. I feel like I've done that with all my surgeries. Like every single one. Because you're just not careful. You just go back right away. Yeah. Like two days passes and I'm like I've done that with all my surgeries. Like every single one. Because you're just not careful. You just go back right away. Yeah. Like two days passes and I'm like, I'm better.

That's how I feel all the time. Not better. Yeah. Definitely just stay in bed. Like lay down. Eat soup. You just didn't like to rest? No.

Yeah. Because you're always on the go. Are you still always like traveling, always doing stuff? Are you guys like home buddies now? No. I mean, we have a lot less bullshit in our life. That's good. What's that mean? What did you cut out? Like less, less bullshit friends. Oh, really? That's good. Yeah. So less, like less plans, like stupid, like going out plans. Do you guys, yeah. Cause do you guys, are you guys going out people in

general? I feel like every time I see you, we hang out to the house. So I would think of you guys as like house people. Yeah. I would rather just hang at the house. I feel like it's like who you're with though. Like I feel like before in recent years, we would just go out to go out. We would go out to go to dinner. It didn't matter who we were with. And now it's like, do we actually like those people? Not really. When you get older, I think it's just like that. Yeah. That's how I felt. I've like lost, I don't even know if I'd say lost, but I just, so many friends that I don't have anymore. And I'm always like, I'm kind of happier than ever. And I'm like, maybe I should just keep this way. You know what I mean? It's like for a reason. I always think that too. And

you don't think of it in the moment until it's like gone. And then like, oh, I'm kind of happier this way. Couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah. And that's why I was like so excited to see you guys. Cause it's like literally like when we texted like last week and stuff like that, I'm just like, you've been such a constant in my life. And it's like from like teenagers, you know?

We were at each other's wedding. I know. Like we're so grown up. No. And that's like the true test of a friend. It is. Because like literally you've been and you were like at

oh wait was I at your oh no like my parties you always came to all my parties yeah all the stuff like that and I was like that's like real friends because I always say

I was like friends never showed up for stuff you know what I mean and you guys were always there we were at each other's weddings we go to that hotel every year now for his birthday

at the Montecito oh really it's gorgeous that's like do you guys go back we've been back like twice. That's it? Three times. Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day and you just cut your tits down.

Did you burst them? No. When was this? How many Valentine's Days ago? Three. The anniversary. And I called the room service and I made them bring like 100 pillows. Oh, to like prop up. Like actually 100 pillows. Actually? And they did it? Yes. I have a photo. Shout out Montecita. The whole bed was filled with pillows.

They are boujee though. They come and they like put a little crib. They always put like welcome Malibu Barbie. Oh really? Yeah. They always do like the most. They like print photos of you when you go. They did.

They did that. Yeah. Oh wait. Every time? Yeah. Yeah. Every time we've been back. And like we'll pull in the valet and they'll be like Mr. and Mrs. Getty.

And they didn't even know we were like coming. Oh wow. Yeah. The staff there like knows. Yeah. I think they just see everything. Cause that's how we were too. They had a frame photo. Like Malibu was a month old and it was like a frame photo of all three of us. I'm like, where did you even get that photo? It was like a screenshot from a video. Somebody is like a super fan and like in the know on the team there. Yeah. No, they're super bougie. And we always go there now. And I was like, and I always say, I'm like,

oh, Nat's and Gigi's wedding. And it was so beautiful. Speaking of Malibu, she doesn't like me. No, no. She's getting her teeth in. No. She turned away when I said hi. She's so fussy. No. She loves every single person.

I want to tell you, every single person. No, today we did our Christmas photos, and she was just like not having it. I think she's getting like her molars in because she's warm. And even my mom, my sister, people she goes to, she's just like not about today. Even Moses. She was on Moses and looked at me, and I said i said hi and then she just turned away i knew she was in a mood today i was like you too she would love you because any like blonde girl she's like obsessed with you know what i mean yeah yeah definitely like my sister like anybody like tana so she

would like love you and you're like a barbie doll you know what i mean but next time yeah yeah she might get better later but i I was like, I just knew she was kind of not herself today. But, um, okay. So T-Guide, wait, so this is your second book, right? You've done two. Okay. I love this book. What, where did this come about? Where'd this idea come about? So, um, Cade and I got Mick. The other half of the cover, um, is the first, he's the first, uh, trans male drag queen on RuPaul's Drag Race. I remember watching him on Drag Race.

So you made history with that, but we had been friends for a long time before. Is he the first male performer, period, on Drag Race? No, they're all male. I was like, did I hear that right? Wait. They're all men.

But he's, okay, so he's just a drag queen. Yes, but he's the first trans male. They've had trans women on before. Yes, like Conqueror. Yeah, there was a whole season where they were all beautiful, fishy, and I was like, okay. Now it's like every season I feel like they cast a lot of trans people because they're trying to like prove a point. But he was the first trans male.

I guess what I'm saying is- They were trying to make it right, as they should. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sasha Colby was a slay on this like last season. But wait, no, I guess what I was asking is there like, is there women as trans people? Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Like, cis women who dress up as. Because, no, like, they dress up as, like, Lionel Richie or something. So that's, like, a drag king. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like Lady Gaga is her alter ego. Okay. But, like, men dressing up as men for a Snatch Game is drag king. I don't know.

Okay. Anyways. Didn't cut any of that out. Leave it all in. That was so funny. I was trying to get, okay, guys. They're all men. Well, that's why I was confused when you were like, he's the first trans.

I was confused, too. I was like, are we losing our minds here? He's a born female. Right. Right. Oh, okay. But maybe no one's ever said that they were trans men before. Maybe there have been trans men. They just don't say it. You know, they're just men. You know what I mean? Possibly. I don't know. I'm just, okay. But maybe no one's ever said that they were trans men before. Maybe there have been trans men.

They just don't say it. You know, they're just men. You know what I mean? Possibly. I don't know. I'm just, okay. Trying to figure it out. We love them.

Yes. Okay. So he, so him and I were friends for years before he got on the show. But when he got on the show, it was like this huge impact. And we were like, we should do something together. Like I've shared my story for so long. You've now publicly shared yours. So we just decided to write all of our tips and tricks and put it in one book this is like such a cute book it's like such a cute like read I just like

love it so much there's like stuff on there about like parents like you were talking about like parenting like trans kids and stuff like that like how what because it is still like a hot topic and we don't have to get like so like political about it and stuff like that but what would your like advice be like if like someone is like questioning their gender, like at an early age, like what age were you when you were like, maybe, maybe I'm trans. Maybe, did you know at a young age? Cause yeah, I always knew. You did always, always, always. I always knew ever since I was really, really little, I would say my first memories, hardcore memories are from like age four and five. Um, before that,

I really don't remember very much, but I always, always was attracted to like girly things. Um, I always felt like I was a girl and, uh, yeah, I just always just felt like a girl. And like, I would, I, I told my brothers one day to call me Kim. I was like, you are no longer going to call me my old name. You're going to call me Kim. And I don't know where I saw that. Cause there was no Kim Kardashian or Kim possible even like,. Wow. And I don't know where I saw that because there was no Kim Kardashian or Kim Possible even like, it was just, I don't know where I got Kim from, but I was like, I'm Kim. So yeah. And then as I got older and I started getting, you know, bullied and teased. And obviously I was like one of the only like boys then playing with the girls and like doing jump rope and stuff like that. I just decided to change.

I was like, okay, I'm not, I'm not feeling this way. And then I started getting called gay and all that stuff. So I just was like, you know what? I'm not, I'm not this person. So I changed. And then I got like hardcore into like diving and sports and all that. And it wasn't until later where I was like, you know what? This I'm going to, I'm going to be myself. Cause it's always been there. And I think a lot of, I mean, I know a lot of trans people feel that way. Cause I've talked to be myself because it's always been there. And I think a lot of – I mean I know a lot of trans people feel that way because I've talked to them. I've spoke with them. And it's this like thing that's just always inside you that never really like gets out. And not a lot of people get the chance to do so.

To like fully be themselves. Because you talk about physical transition versus like internal transition. And so do you think – like what was first for you? Was it the physical or was versus like internal transition. And so do you think like, what was first for you? Was it the physical or was it like internal? Like where you fully were able to like, I think the physical really helped me like going back to plastic surgery and stuff. I feel like that is just so validating. Like I never even like, even when I was like identifying as Gigi and she and her, um, and going out all the time, like literally like we would go out all the time. I wouldn't wear like a bra. I wouldn't do anything really like that. So when I got my

boobs, I was like, well, obviously I'm, I want boobs, but I never really like faked having boobs. But when I got them and when they were like in me and I saw them like on like my naked body, my naked chest, I was like, Oh my God. Like I'm actually now a girl. You felt like that was, like, fully you. Like, this is what I was, like, meant for. Yes. It was definitely, like, a surreal moment. And I never wore bras or anything like that. So I was just like, oh, my God, now I need to go get bras.

Like, how exciting is this? Yeah. That's what's fun in your documentary to see you, like, shop for your first bra. You took me for that. Yes. It was so fun. Going to Victoria's Secret. Because it's, like, such a cool experience.

You know what I mean? To, like, get your first bra. Yep. And a lot of people have it when such a cool experience. You know what I mean? To like get your first bra. Yep. And a lot of people have it when they're a teenager. You know what I mean? Exactly. So like getting to do it is like so fun. To be with someone to do it is like so fun.

It was so exciting. Yeah, that was very exciting. That part was like, I don't know, because since I've known you, I've always just known you as like, you know, just you, you know? And so when you were doing that whole like physical transition, to me it just like, I don't know, I just don't remember you any other way. Like that's how I always remembered you even though like it was, you know, before that. I don't know. I just don't remember you any other way. Like that's how I always remembered you. Even though like it was, you know, before that, I don't know. We just like see each other's auras or something like that. I don't know what it is.

I just always have seen you that way. So when I watched that documentary, like I rewatched it for this interview. Cause I was like, Oh, I haven't seen this since it came out. And I was like, Oh, I just always remember you being that way. You know what I mean? I don't know. Yeah. Cause you watch your early videos, even the 15, when you're 15 years ago and you're like, it's just the aura of Gigi. You know what I mean? It's so, and you keep them up. You keep those videos up. I do. I'm not a deleter. Yeah. You just, you look back at them ever or are you just like, not for a while now. Yeah. They're there. It's so cute. And just like throwing your bag around in perfume. Nothing's changed. I love it. I know I saw your burkin. Throwing down

McDonald's. Yeah. my Birkin I throw. Oh my god. I always had a Birkin kick, but now I hate my Birkins and I try to sell them and nobody wants them. Oh, really? I have like so many Birkins. You want a rainbow Birkin? Oh, the sparkly one? Nobody wants it. Don't get it. What color is it underneath

all the sparkles? I know. The actual receipt from Air Maids, it's like this lime one that was like, and she gave me the original receipt when I bought it and it was like the $8,000 bag and I paid $50,000 for it. What? Yeah. For aftermarket, which like decreases the value and nobody wants it.

I'm like, I'll sell it for $8,000 and I have like the receipt. Nobody wants it? No, it's a trash bag. Don't get it for real. I wouldn't even like let you like carry it. Like it's, no, you know what? Someone might like it. I shouldn't say that.

No one wants it, though. I gave it back to the Birkin lady to resell, and she sent it back two years later, and she's like, nobody wants this bag. Oh my god. Yeah. But it's lime, the actual color. It's like yellow with a rainbow bedazzled because I got the Paris Hilton one, the Birkin that's pink with the bedazzled crystals, and I

love that one. So I was like, oh, let me get a rainbow one because I thought it would be cute for pride, and it is cute for pride, but that's the only one that you canled crystals. And I love that one. So I was like, oh, let me get a rainbow one. Because I thought it would be cute for Pride. And it is cute for Pride. But like that's the only one that you can wear it. You know what I mean? We'll just keep it for that then. Yeah, but I don't go out anymore for Pride. So now it just sits in my closet.

Well, some super fan will buy it, I'm sure. No, no one has. Anyways, you got me on the Birkin kit because you always had it. You had like an orange Birkin that I loved so much. I do, yeah. You were such a Birkin girly. And I was so inspired by it. I think it's cute.

It's nice for travel because they're so big, and I like that they're, like, really cutesy and, like, people recognize them. Yeah. But I'll wear whatever. Give me a garbage bag. I don't care. No, that's not true. You always had, like, Balenciaga.

Even back in the day when you were, like, 16, you had Balenciaga. I love the Balenciaga ones. Oh, they're coming back. Those big, what are they called? LeCoggle. I don't know what they're called. I don't even know either. Yeah, the ones with the metal hardware, like the

original Balenciagas that you have. Yeah. The motorcycle. Yes. City. The city bag. I think they're canceled actually. Maybe we shouldn't talk about Balenciaga. I think they are too. But I think they're coming back because they're at Air One now. Oh yeah. Maybe they're not. I'm so confused. Well clearly I don't know anything so

you can't go to me for this. Yeah. That was the Air One by Balenciaga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Kim Kardashian had a little, like, paper bag from Air One. Oh, yeah, they're not canceled anymore. We love them. Because Kim Kardashian. Isn't that crazy how that works?

It is. Cancelations in general, people would be the most evil, awful people, and then they come back to the internet. Right. And it's like, oh, people are like, it doesn't mean anything. I know. People just take, like, a year off, and they're like, oh, yeah. Sometimes not even a year.

Not even a year. Sometimes a few months. The drama. We just said no drama. Oh my God. Yeah. The drama of it all. No, I know. I respect more when people take like a year off, like, like reflect, at least pretend to reflect. Shows that you're like, sorry. Yeah. Actually. It's like go into hiding for a little minute. Yeah. Yeah. And then people do it and then they usually come back and people forgive them. Maybe don't just say you're going to therapy. Actually go to therapy. Right.

That usually shows too. Have you done therapy? Have you ever done therapy? I, the only time I actually ever did therapy was when my dad forced me after my mom died. Oh. Because he was like, this is the right thing to do. He was like scrambling. And I think I went like two or three times.

That's it. Yeah. Were you, did he see you like struggling? I remember when your mom passed away and you were obviously like... We all had to go. Like it wasn't like, oh my god, the kids are... No, we would go solo, me and my brothers. And I'm sure my dad went too. I can't remember. But he

was just like, you gotta go do this. And then I basically was like, I'm not vibing with the girl because I never wanted to open up. I wasn't even openly trans yet. So I was like, I can't really talk to her. You know what I mean? And I was like, she doesn't know my mom. She never knew her. She's not going to get it. Like I was like very just like angry. Because how old were you? 19. Oh, wow. Yeah. I was still finding myself though. Yeah. Did your mom know about your transitioning or? No, she knew I was really flamboyant. She like watched my

YouTube channel and like was obsessed with like makeup and stuff. And I would like help her get ready to go out at like whenever she had like an event or whatever. But no, I never told her I was trans. She was like the reason I transitioned though. Really? Yeah. What was it? She passed away. She passed away. And I just said, you know what? Life is way too short. And like, I gotta like validate these feelings that I'm feeling inside because they think about it every day. So I was just like, this is gotta come out of me at some point. And yeah, she, I think everything happens for a reason and she was taken way too soon, but I wouldn't be like where I am right now if she was still, I don't even know if I would have transitioned to be honest. Really? I don't know. Yeah. Cause you just weren't having that conversations with her. Yeah. Yeah. But I know

she'd be my biggest supporter. Oh my gosh. She'd be like so proud. She'd be excited. She'd be taking my Birkin. Because she was like pageant girl kind of, right? She was. Yeah.

I've never seen the photos. She was Miss Canada. Oh my God. She would gag at how gorge like you are. And she always used to have, oh my God, this is the cutest story ever. She always used to have her girlfriends and my aunts over. And she always used to host these like photo shoots. She would do this like backdrop.

She would hire this like fabulous gay photographer who was like probably the one gay guy I knew growing up. But he came over a few times and he would take their picture. And like it was like very glamour shots. Oh my God. Before Instagram, before all that. She's like, I'm just doing these photos for cuteness. And they would all wear fur and drink cocktails and I'm sure smoke cigarettes out

back, but I wasn't. I just would walk downstairs and be like, Mom, what are you doing? And I'm like, is this a glimpse into my future? That's probably going to be me. Literally you doing photo shoots and themes. It was like glamour shots, though. It looked like there was Vaseline on the thing, and she would get all the photos and she would mail them out to

her friends and to my aunts. Oh, wait. She was the orchestrator of the whole photo shoot. Wait, but she would just send like headshots of herself? No, not of herself. And she would sign them. I have my headshot over there. So like that's everything.

No, it's very us. She would send every person their headshot. But like that she picked. Oh, she was like the art director too this is your best photo yes like she was a gay boy yeah very gg yeah very you faced it and then you sent to someone you're like here's your photo that's oh my gosh how old were you when that was happening like 10 oh my gosh were you ever in the photos with her did you ever do like a little no i think i like hung around one time I just remember smelling her perfume and like the smell of, you know, like makeup, like

Estee Lauder makeup and like Dior and like Clinique and all that. Just like drug, like a department store makeup. I just remember the sense of it all and like the lights. And I remember the backdrop going up being like, this is, what is this for? And it was just a random Saturday. I love that so much. Oh my God. So extra. What was your dad say? Was he just like so supportive? I love that so much. Oh, my God. So extra.

Yeah. What was your dad say? Was he just like so supportive? I don't remember. Probably. Oh, my God. It's probably like let her do her thing. Oh, man.

So she watched your videos. She watched my videos. Supportive of that, of your YouTube career. I mean, I feel like a lot of internet kids are really shy. Like when, I mean, that's why we started, right? Talking to a camera. It's like we're kind of lonely a little bit. So I feel like when I would post a video, I would post it, but then I would forget

it. I was like, oh, this is not transferring into my real life. You know what I mean? But my mom, she would always like come up behind me and she'd be like, I saw your video. I love it. Oh my gosh. That's so nice. And I would do like crazy ass makeup and she'd be like, I love that makeup.

Oh, so she was like so supportive of you wearing makeup. Completely. Completely. Well, she would walk us out every single day. Me and so she was like so supportive of you wearing makeup. Completely. Oh my gosh. Well, she would walk us out every single day, me and my brothers, because we went to all the same high school. We would walk to the end of the street and get on the bus and I just progressively would start wearing more

and more makeup. So every morning at like 7 a.m. she'd be like, is that mascara? And I was like, mm-mm, no. And then I'd have on like a full red lip. She's like, is that lipstick? And you're like, no. I'd be on like a full red lip she's like is that lipstick wait you said no yeah I would always lie I love that I remember my I remember my history teacher one time in high school he called me out in front of the whole class and said are you wearing bronzer

in front of the whole class and immediately I just lied I turned bright red I felt myself like flare up oh my god how would he know what bronzer was back then anyway? He probably was wearing it too. Definitely. Like I don't think that's so weird. I had a teacher call me up for a water bra. And I was like, how would you even know what a water bra is? Like that's so weird.

What is a water bra? Yeah. Oh, you don't remember it though. Oh my God. They were. No. Oh, you would have loved it. Like a water bed?

Literally. Literally. What if it burst? Yes. You're just soaked. Well, technically, yes. Oh my God. But I had really uneven boobs.

I had, like, a D cup and an A cup. So I had, like, a water bra to fill it out. And then I put, like, a sock in one. And it was water. It was, like, jiggly. So your boobs looked jiggly. Would you hear it, like, flush? Yeah.

What? It was a water bed. They sold them at, like, Frederick's of Hollywood back in the day. I wish they'd bring those back. Water bras were such a slay. And I wore them to class. And, like, a teacher called me out. And I was, like, first of all, ew.

Like, why are you looking? That's, like, perverted. I'm, like, 14. And you're, like why are you looking? That's like perverted. I'm like 14 and you're like calling me out for that and I really did have a problem. Like my boobs were asymmetrical so I was just like, I have to wear this.

Wait, was it a girl or a boy teacher? It was a boy. It was a guy. Oh my God. Yeah. No, I have like issues.

Wait, that's severely inappropriate. Isn't it? Yeah, but also asking if you have bronzer also too. It's like, why? Yeah,

it was in front of everybody. I think he was gay though. Oh, so. Probably just wanted to humiliate me. Oh my God, that's so, because he couldn't like wear makeup and be himself. Oh, so. Probably just wanted to humiliate me. Oh my God. That's because he couldn't like wear makeup and be himself. Oh my gosh.

My history teacher. If you guys know, you know. Anybody from my hometown. Do you ever have people from your hometown like come out and be like, oh, I went to school with Gigi. Yeah.

Yeah. Are they always positive? Um, I don't know. Did anyone like be like, cause you said you got bullied, but then you were popular. No,

I bullied. I bullied too. Oh, no, I did., because you said you got bullied, but then you were popular. No, I bullied. I bullied, too. Oh. No, I did. Because you said you were bullied. I got bullied, yes. And then you said that's when you became a little more, like, diver and more, like, in your boy self, I guess. Yes, yes.

So then you bullied then? No, then when I got, like, more flamboyant again, like, not, like, very conforming into, like, what everyone else was doing, I just decided that I was, like like not going to take shit from anybody. Yeah. So I decided to like become the bully. Like you're not going to fuck with me. And that did that. But that probably works.

Some people are like, oh, I'm kind of scared of this person. They did. Yeah. I get that. I feel like that's always like a defense mechanism. Yeah. So that way nobody bullies you. Yeah.

I was just really like not taking shit from anybody. Yeah. And I feel like people respect that. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but like, I know when I raised my kids, I'm going to be like, you're not going to take that shit from that person. Of course not. No. Yeah. You're going to fight back. No. Okay. Absolutely. But by how? Like physical fight? No, I never got in physical fights. Nothing like that. But like, yeah, with your words, for sure. You're not going to let them walk all over you. That's a grace. No, it's true. You're

not going to be like, no, I would just be so protective. I like what I not going to let them walk all over you. That's a grace. No, it's true. You're not going to be like, no. I would just be so protective. Oh, I'm going to be protective too. I'm going to be like, I'm talking to that person's parents. Oh, okay. My mom did that. She had little girls when they were 10, like, you come with me to the principal. She would be like, so, I'm like, oh my god, relax. Oh, I'm going to be that mom. Oh, I mean, I just feel like I'm just going to keep her in a bubble. I don't know.

I just don't want anyone to come around her because I'm like, don't hurt her. I feel that too. You know what I mean? I hope this new generation, like with our kids and stuff like that, like they're just nicer. Like I feel like they could be. I know. I kind of go back and forth with that too. Because I know like, you know, with the LGBTQ plus spectrum of this conversation, like I think it's very trendy to be gay or to be yourself, to be authentic and all that stuff. It's like celebrated.

Yeah. And I love that. But at the same time, I'm like with social media and everything, I can't imagine like all the bullying that goes on nowadays, like in elementary high school. With kids. Yeah. Yeah. Like for, you think for specifically that community, like LGBTQ plus kids? I mean, maybe less now than when I was growing up. Right. I think it's way less. Like you said, it's almost cool. Like, you know, it's trendy. Like people want to like, they like queer bait and stuff, you know, like straight guys

wore dresses because it's like cool, you know? Yeah, Harry Styles. Yes. Right? Well, he might be. He's not, he hasn't clarified what he is. Oh, really? I think he's, yeah.

Oh, I thought he said he's straight. Oh, has he? Do we know? No. He hasn't come out as straight. He hasn't come out as anything. Yeah. He's just kind of.

Coming out as straight is hilarious. That is true. But he has never confirmed that he's straight, right? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I guess that is like the world now. I feel like, yeah, you shouldn't have to come out as anything.

Like that's what I always think. I'm like maybe there's a world where you don't have to like come out. You know, it's just like whatever you are as you are. I think it'll happen. I think it's just so much more like people won't think about it. That's what I think with my daughter's generation. It's just like our kids' generation. I'm just like I think they just won't think about it. That's what I think with my daughter's generation. It's just like our kids' generation. I'm just like, I think they just won't think about it.

Yeah, I hope not. You know what I mean? Because I see like when I grew up, I never saw like same-sex parents but now it's just like so common. So no one even thinks about it. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I just, I know like the world moves so fast with social media now. Like one Snapchat could go like, you know, over the school in minutes. Right. Whereas I feel like

with us, it was like texting. but it wasn't like within milliseconds. Well, you're even younger than me. We didn't even have texting. I didn't have a cell phone when I was like 18. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm 30. I'm going to be 30.

I'm 35. You're what, 31? 31. So yeah, we wouldn't have even gone to the same high school. Yeah. My dad worked for a company where he got free cell phones. So I would always like have a new cell phone. Did you have Rogers?

No, Bell Mobility. But Rogers too. Yeah. I did one sponsorship for Rogers. Did you have Rogers? No Bell Mobility. But Rogers too. Yeah. I did one sponsorship for Rogers. Oh my God. That's Canadian. Yeah.

Yeah. It was so random. Why didn't I get that? You got every sponsorship. You had Crest Whitening. You had every sponsorship. I did have Crest. Oh my God. I remember all your sponsorships.

I forgot about that one. I was always so envious because you got everything. They never even asked me to use their toothpaste. I've never. Just like you. So what did you have to say their toothpaste. I've never – just like you. So what did you have to say? I was like, do I get free whitening for this? Oh, did you?

Because their strips are a slay. I love their strips. No, just free product. Like just toothpaste, not just strips. Yeah, the strips, everything. Oh, okay. 3D whitening. For life?

Do you still get them? No. Oh. No. Probably for like one box. They're expensive. They're like 60 bucks. Yeah.

No, you had all the good brand deals did you ever get like a mcdonald's one or a fast food one oh no never had those no i'm surprised i really need though yeah i mean you really do because you actually eat their food and you like love it one hour ago literally amazing like before that maybe like two three days ago wow like i love mcdonald's yeah you're like the perfect sponsorship girly for them because they don't like fat people to advertise their food but you actually eat their food. So they'd be like, oh, wow, you can look like this if you eat McDonald's. No, she just ate it and still just like, so good.

Yeah. I am a little bloated, though. Oh, my God. No, you feel it, though. You feel it. It's the eye roll, the collective eye roll from everybody. Oscar's like, I work out and I look like this. That was hilarious. I was was like nice to meet you oscar's is so great no we were talking about when we were talking about like the old youtubers that

we used to watch but you don't keep up with anybody anymore oh i don't know i mean i keep up with this i love this podcast do you actually watch do. I watch it every single day. Really? I walk into like Gigi Glamour or Getting Ready in the morning. I hear your voice and I'm like. Oh my god. And I love that you film it. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's my favorite because I listen to. I'm like a podcast like crazy person. Do you? What do you listen to? I listen to.

I mean let me go down the line. I listen to this. Canceled. Canceled. That's it. Yeah that's it. Let me go down the list. That's all No, when I saw your video I saw you said that I'm like, they're the only two podcasts I met I know they're great too No, I really, I love

I love, love, love, love Yeah, yeah Oh my gosh I don't know, I listen to a bunch I listen to like nerdy shit too Bitch Bible Bitch Bible What's that?

With Jackie Chabal Really? She's f***ing iconic Who is she? She is I don't know anybody She's like a comedian-esque That's how I would describe her

It's just her. Just by herself? Just by herself. That's hard to do a podcast just by yourself. You have to have a lot going on in your mind. Oh, my God. You know what I mean? Yeah, how people do it.

And be entertaining, too. Oh, she's very, she's like unhinged entertaining. Oh, my God. I had to watch. Does she have a video format or just? No. Just audio. Just audio.

And so you listen to them? Yep. Do you still do audible sponsorships? Oh, my God. I used to do them, too. I used to do once a month. You do audible every month. I love reading this book or listening to this book. Favorite perfume and book of the month. Trying to work it in. Audible.com. I'd be like, uh, top rated books this month. You didn't listen to them? No, I did. I've always been like, uh, honestly,

it's very rare that I listen to music getting ready. You just do podcasts now? Yeah, mostly. What happened to your podcast? Because it was so iconic. I love doing it, but it was a deal. So we did 40 episodes. Yeah. And I was just kind of like, this is more work.

Like, I was booking everybody. Everyone was coming over to my house. Yeah. Like, we were only getting, like, this amount of ads and, like, just money from it. So you were just like, I'm over it. You were so good at it. I liked it. You don't have to answer this,

but what happened to our podcast? Cause I did an episode with you. Oh my God. I forgot about that. I was like, Oh no, no, I forgot about that.

Tell me. So it was during the produce. They did. Yeah. The producers, they did. No, I'm not lying.

It was during something and you were supposed to be our first podcast. And I recorded with you when I was in Toronto. Yes. I did it like over zoom. And I was so excited. They were like, we can't. Yes. And I recorded it with you when I was in Toronto. Yes. I did it like over Zoom. Yes. And I was so excited. And they were like, we can't upload this. And I was like, wait, why? What? Yeah, it was something. And I was like, what the? This is the start of my.

That's just sad because they can't hear the microphone. Was that they were going to terminate the deal. Yes. If that was the first podcast. Yes. But I don't remember why. It was something. Oh my God. I love that you're so honest with me I love that because I was like that's so weird and usually people are like I forgot I don't know what happened like oh what a different direction no I didn't even think well we still did the podcast

I forgot who was our first then but yeah I asked for the audio I was like well if you guys don't want to post it like I want to post it oh yeah like it doesn't have to be on your platform but like I want to post it on YouTube because it was really cute no they wouldn't give me the audio oh my god it was very much like, no. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I know. I was like, okay, I guess we move on.

I'm like, this is awkward. That's so awkward. That's like an hour of our time. That might be, like, the worst thing I've ever heard. I'm like, oh, my God. Because, you know, people are, like, nice and sugarcoat things. I'm like, okay, whatever. Different direction.

You're like, yeah, actually, they do. But I love it. You're like, did they hit me? I was like, yes. But that's honestly what I've had with even this. I was having so many people pitch me to, like, people, like, Spotify. Like, nobody, like, did they hit me? I was like, yes. But that's honestly what I've had with even this. I was having so many people pitch me to like people like Spotify. Like nobody like wanted me. So I'm like, we'll just do it ourselves.

You know what I mean? I'm very shocked at that. I feel like you guys are going to get like a Spotify, like call her daddy deal. I mean, I would love that. I would love a TV show or something. You know what I mean? You never know. I don't know.

There is something. Wendy Williams. Oh my God, I would love. Will you be my first guest if I have a TV show? That'd be so cute. I'll be Oscar 2.0. Oh my gosh. That's the best

though about not having sponsors or producers. Like, we don't have to worry. Yeah, you're doing the right thing. Yeah, so that's why we're on Patreon. Thanks to our patrons. Because we don't have any sponsors or nothing. But it's honestly better that way. It's like freeing. And you don't have to listen to anybody. Yeah, just be you. Just Trish. Just Trish.

Just Trish and everybody else in the room. So you're not retired from YouTube. Not entirely. You like pop up here and there. Not with IVF and I feel like you talked about the journey of getting off testosterone and hormones. Getting off testosterone.

Sorry. I knew what you meant though. I've actually made that mistake as well. You're the only person I'm not nervous about. I've actually made that mistake as well. And I was like, you're the only person I'm not nervous about. I'm just saying all the wrong things. I wasn't even making notes. I'm like, it's Gigi. So are drag queens men?

What did you say? We watched the season. I know. I know this. So good. So good. They did you on Snatch Game once, right? Like, so many seasons.

Farrah Moan did me, yeah. Yes. Did you love your impersonation? I did. I did. I did. Why did you say it like that?, right? Like, so many seasons. Farrah Moan did me, yeah. Yes. Did you love your impersonation? I did. I did. I did. Why did you say it like that? Because I think she went home that episode.

That's what happened with mine, too. Really? When Sugar did me, she went home that episode. Yeah, I think Farrah went home when she did me. Oh, no. I think they just don't get it. Like, they told me that Rue just doesn't love, like, influencer impersonations because he doesn't know them.

But you have to. But Rue knows you. You can't just say what they say. You have to, like, be a personality. Like, it could be trisha paytas but it could be like she's angry trisha paytas like she's bitchy trisha paytas they don't know like i definitely wouldn't expect anyone to know me like there's no way rue's gonna be like oh that was a great trisha paytas but that's the best thing about snatch game though you could be like a bottle of coke coca-cola but you're like a bratty coca-cola and he'll find it funny oh no but that mona lisa

was there was one that was like the Mona Lisa and it was horrible. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like you just are like, there's certain things that you can't do. Yeah, because people have done like crazy people. I don't know. But they're so funny. Oh, so you like it. That I'm like, oh my God.

Yeah. Like they're, it's like they're giving like acting and a personality. Right, right, right. Yeah. Whereas I feel like mine, when Farrah Moan did me, love her to death. Obsessed with her. She's a good friend of mine. But she was like throwing things behind her and saying like, stay gorgeous.

And I'm like, well, that's not really funny. I love Ness's reaction. Oh, well, that's not really funny. I love that. I mean, oh yeah, she, um, okay. She refused to RSVP to our wedding. Oh. Like a week before and I called him and was like, what the fuck? It's not a birthday party. I was just trying to be sweet.

We have so many issues with that. Yeah. He's a good friend. That's wild. I said, no. No, I said, don't come. I'm invited. Did you? Were you on the phone with her? Yeah. No, people said don't come. I'm invited. Did you?

Were you on the phone with her? Yeah. No, people are so disrespectful when it comes to weddings. They are. They treat it like a party. Totally. Some people just showed up and I was like, but you can't just show up like we don't have the sets.

Or some people just didn't show up at RSVP. We had dinner for you. We're paying for plates. Literally so much. Yeah. I'm sure Montecito is expensive because Four Seasons was $100,000 minimum for food for people. You had to pay $100,000.

Ooh, I wonder what ours was. I'm sure it was more. Did you still follow people that you don't like? Yeah. Do you mute them? Yes. Okay. I will mute.

I love a hard unfollow. There's so much bullshit already on the screen. Right, right, right. You gotta, like, get rid of it. Yeah. I think it speaks so much, though, when someone, like, unfollows someone. It definitely does. It's very, like, this is it.

I unfollowed Colleen. Did you follow her in the first book? I did. I checked. I said, this. Wait, were you friends? I never thought you were friends. No, no, no, we weren't. No, just followed her. We just followed. Did you collab? Did you ever do like Miranda Sands? I don't think I did. No. You're like, I don't know, maybe. I mean, if I did, I forgot. No, no.

Because I never like pictured you in like that. You never had a group. Like you were never like a group. You kind of just went with everybody. Everyone loved you. You were iconic. Because we used to hang out a lot with Shane and Drew. There was like a moment. There was like, I don't know, a few months where we like hung out all the time. And you were so good.

I re-watched his, the movie, the little short film that you did. I hate my selfie. Yes. Where you were like the Regina George. The bitch, yes. You were so good at acting. And I was like, how come you never pursued it? I don't know.

I went to like a few acting classes. And it was just really cringe. Everyone there was like really weird come you never pursued it? I don't know. I went to like a few acting classes and it was just really cringe. Everyone there was like really weird. So I just didn't. Like was it like improv where you're like. Yes. They're like cry and like scream. I was like, oh my God.

Like I don't want to do that. You don't have to do acting classes. You just be in a movie. Like you are you. You can just be in. I would love to. So like if someone offered you a part, you'd be like, absolutely. Absolutely.

Like going on White Lotus or something. You actually could be on White Lotus because you're so, like you're actually so talented. You're actually like the aesthetic of it. You know what I mean? You think? Yeah. I think that would be so iconic. Oh my God.

They're going to Thailand in February to shoot. Oh, I could be the lady boy. No. What? Oh my God. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No.

Oh my God. No. You're the socialite. You're the heiress. I mean, you literally are because you have the Getty name, too. You're literally, like, a Getty heiress. Hello. That's everything.

Producers, hit me up. Can I ask you a question? This is, like, so off the cuff. Yeah. But, like, is Getty Images, do you guys own that? Yes. Not that I own it. Is it related to you?

Yeah, no. It's we created it. My uncle started it. Oh, wow. So it's in your family. Yeah. I need to get my pictures on there because I only have two. And I don't know how people get.

What do you mean? Go to red carpets. I never get invited to that. I don't get anything. I get invited to nowhere. Next one we go to. You're coming. Can I just submit my photos to you?

Oh, yeah. We've done that before, too. Have you? Yeah. There's been a deal where they're like, okay, these photos you submit will be on Getty Images. And it's photos I've taken on my phone. No way. And I FaceTuned them.

That's what we got to do. And they're on Getty Images with the little thing. Really? And I'm like, my face is so edited here. That's editing? That's what you need. How does that work? Because you need that.

Because when people, like, people magazine or something, they use photos of me. And it's from, like, Celebrity Big Brother from, like, ten years Brother from 10 years ago, and it's only images on Getty Images. So I was like, use better photos, but they only use the Getty ones. And I'm like, why Getty? And why do people keep the watermark on there? It's illegal to remove it unless you buy the image. Oh, yeah, a bunch of people are getting sued. Oh, but doesn't that even make them look cheaper?

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You can license it to put it on a t-shirt. Oh. Bougie. So bougie. Oh my God, they're so smart. Your uncle is so smart. I know, right? And the only company that has that is like Getty Images.

Like everyone knows Getty. And I was like, I wonder if they're the Gettys that know. Well, not tonight. Own it, guys. You heard it here first. Getty Oil, Getty Museum. Uh-huh. The Getty Oil, Getty Museum. The Getty Villa in Malibu.

That's so boosh. I've never even been. Wait, really? Why? That's so interesting. I don't know. I missed a party there one time. Wait, what? Yeah, there was a birthday party there one time. And you didn't go? No, I missed it. I had to work or something. Oh, okay. I don't know.

That's our villa as well. I've never been. Will your kids be Getty or will you have hyphen? Will it be like Gorgeous Getty? Ooh, I don't know. Because Gorgeous is such a cool name too. Like Gigi, Gorgeous Getty and like your kids be Gorgeous. Like we're married but we still have hyphenated names. The first name of the kid will be Gorgeous and the last name will be Getty.

Ooh. Gorgeous Getty. I know. I'm like, can you please tell me the name? She wouldn't tell me your guys' name for your first. I was like, oh. Oh, yeah. I wasn't going to I know. I'm like, can you please tell me the name? She wouldn't tell me your guys' name for your first. I was like, oh. Oh, yeah. I wasn't going to spill that. I was like, that's what killed me.

No. I mean, I get it. I get it. It's just like you never know. Yeah, but then sometimes you have to say it. Like, I said Elvis because I was so scared Kourtney Kardashian was going to name it. So I'm like, our baby's Elvis before I was ever pregnant.

You said it really soon. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was like, I just need to say it before someone steals it. It's like Paris, too. She always said her baby girl's going to be named London. Really?

Yeah, always. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. Do you think she did it after The Suite Life was on Cody? London. Really? Yeah, always. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. Do you think she did it after The Suite Life of Zack Cody? Like, she, like, saw the show and was like, that's a cool name. I saw a clip of her actually talking about this, but I forget what she said. I doubt it. There's no way.

Oh, but that's so, like, such a coincidence. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think she's always been obsessed with cities, though. Right, because her son is Phoenix. Yeah. Yeah. Is that what it's named after, or is it named after the bird? Okay.

Yeah. Well, the bird, too. Yeah. Well, the bird too. Yeah. Okay. It's like a double meaning. Phoenix, Arizona. Phoenix, Arizona is iconic. Have you been?

It's actually so cute. I've never been. I want to go to the Almond Gari. It's in Utah. I want to go there too. I thought that was Arizona. Oh, with like the red caves. Yeah.

I want to go too, but it's like so hard to like get a reservation. There's only like seven rooms. It's so bougie. Yes, very bougie. I wanted to go there too but it's like so hard to like get a reservation. There's only like seven rooms. It's so bougie. Yes, very bougie. I wanted to go there too. Maybe we'll go on like a trip in with Tart there or something. I don't think Tart is going to Almanac. Who knows?

Did you ever go on those brand trips? No, I'm so pissed. Wait, why? I turned a few down. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm talking like beach ones. What do you guys do for your anniversary? Do you guys go full out?

Depends on the year. This year is five. We're going to go to Vegas and redo a wedding. Wait, what? Oh, that's going to be so fun. I could do like in the White Chapel. Elvis, whole bit. Oh, my God.

Maybe Elvis can come. When is the wedding? July. Okay, yeah. July 12th. Oh, my gosh. Anybody in can come. When is the wedding? July. Okay. Yeah. July 12th. Oh my gosh. Anybody in Vegas, see you there. Yeah.

That's so fun. Oh my gosh. That's going to be fun. So just like, what are you going to wear? Leather? Ah, no. Probably like a little slutty white dress. Yeah.

That's so cute when people do that. Like a garter. Oh man. Yeah. And just be like short. I know. I always wanted that wedding. I always thought, because you guys had such an elegant, beautiful wedding And now you're like, let's renew our vows and short.

Yeah, let's be trashy. Take a shot at Jack Daniels or something. Are you guys going to do a full? Is it going to be a lot of people there? It's going to be like a big wedding? I don't know. Definitely a lot less. I feel like because the wedding was like a lot, this will be like less.

What did you think about having a big wedding? We, okay. So ours was, it was 250, something like that. That was big. You had a big wedding. But that's not as big as like I've seen. So it kind of was like. Like Sophia Richie,

I guess had like. Like a thousand. Yeah. Like people like go all out. But 250 is big. To me at the time it was, to us at the time it was, right?

But now I'm like, could have invited more. Really? Yeah. But there's no way you could have talked to every single person there. Like. No, I definitely like loved every single person there though. Yeah. But did you actually get, because like we literally talked to every single person there. No, I definitely, like, loved every single person there, though.

Yeah, but did you actually get, because, like, we literally talked to everyone for five seconds, and that was it, and I felt so bad. I was like, everyone came to this wedding, and you don't get to talk to them. It is a lot of pressure. Yeah, I remember. I remember when I came up to you guys. I felt even bad taking your time, because I'm like, they're so busy. This is their day.

No, but I hate that people feel that way, because you want to party and, like, dance with you guys and stuff like that. Like, that's what's so frustrating about weddings. Yeah, I think a lot of people also to like take up your time. I remember, but right as, uh, you know how like you go out and like get introduced to everyone as like Mr. And Mrs. Whatever. This girl that I invited who I love, but she was so drunk. She was like crying to me saying like, we need to spend more time together.

I love you. And I was like, Oh my God. I was like, Oh no. was like oh no like she was keeping me up from going out and like the mic was on it was like everyone was waiting. Did anyone say something your bridesmaids or something like excuse me. No it was just him and I and her I was like there's

read the room. Oh that's walking into the like banquet it was really really cringe I was like oh my god so like I feel like a lot of other people feel like the need to take their time. But were you that close to that person? You weren't that close. I used to be.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, you know her. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I literally went by myself to your wedding.

We'll cut this part back in. But I like, yeah, I went by myself because it was so iconic. I remember I had like a date lined up and he bailed on me and I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna go by myself. So I drove up that day and I drove back the same day because I was like, oh, that's like everything. I remember you had the long blonde hair. A little wig moment.

Yeah. It was so good. I think it's like your profile photo. Literally. Yes. It was so good. Well, it's because I was literally bald. That was the year I stopped bleaching my hair because I was like losing my hair.

So I was like. That wig was great. Thank you. And I think you wore like turquoise or something to the wedding. Oh my God. You have such a. Yeah. I love.

Because I did get pictures with you guys. But I'm the same way where I'm very like, I don't want to bug. Especially when you have like your family there. It's just like, I don't know. You just don't want to be that person. Just high and by. Like hi, thank you. It's great to see you.

Yeah. And I think that's what people should do when it's such a big wedding. And our guests were like that. It was like a meet and greet. It was like 10 seconds. And they would like go through. Yeah. There was a line.

There was a line. There was a line. I loved it though. Made it easy. We didn't dance. We didn't see anyone. It was just like that's why we had a smaller one in Hawaii. And I was like I kind of like wish we would have had like a just smaller in general.

Yeah. You kind of have to sign yourself up for it too. Like if you're going to have a wedding with a lot of people, you kind of got to entertain. You like dance. Like we dance for like five seconds and we dance and we took pictures together. Like I have pictures with you guys. I'll insert them for you or Oscar will insert them for you. I love it. I felt very bougie. It felt very, it was such a fancy wedding. It was the most beautiful wedding. I don't think I've been to anyone else's wedding, but your guys's. Really? Yeah, I'll send them. I love it. I felt very bougie. It felt very, it was such a fancy wedding. It was so, it was so fun. It was the most beautiful wedding. I don't think I've been to anyone else's wedding but your guys'. Really?

Yeah, I really don't. I love a wedding. Me too. It's so fun. Everyone's there to have so much fun. And it's like love and it just feels right and stuff like that. Everyone's in the same mindset. They're just there to have a good time, celebrate.

That's why I was shocked to see you guys at ours. I was like, oh my God, because I know you guys are busy. Wouldn't miss it. That's why I know you're real friends. And that's why I always felt that way. I was like, no, these are like real friends. I also love that you requested everyone to wear white. Oh, thank God. Thanks. Me too. It was so

good. Well, thank God. Our wedding, I can just say, okay, our original budget was $20,000. That wedding cost $400,000, but it looked like a $50,000 wedding. It was like bright lights. There was no lighting. We didn't have a band at one point. Like last minute we had to call Elvis for $2,000. Like it was just like – we had – I don't know.

I don't know what happened to our money. Did you have a planner? Yeah. It was just – I don't think people know how to budget. Well, that planner. It was a mess. We spent like half of our budget. Anyways, it ended up being so, so expensive and it looked so cheap.

So thank God we pointed that as the guest dressed in white because we wanted a winter wonderland. We wanted snow falling like Christine Quinn we wanted white trees and like the whole budget $400,000 was spent on what we have no idea curtains she said that's crazy you think that she robbed you like she took the money no I don't want to say that but I just I I don't know I think

everything was just budgeted poorly like our photographer was like 50,000 it was 30,000 that was what it was 30,000 no we were talking about this yeah I was like was our photographer that much? Because I heard you talk about this. You guys were bougie photographers, though. That was like Kardashian. I don't think it was that much money, though. I know it was because I was going to book them and they were literally like

$80,000 when I inquired. Including the videographer, though. Including the videographer and yeah. A package like deal video. No prints or anything. It was just like that. Oh my, oh, it's oh, it's bling. Wait, what is that one? What does it say? Horny and ashamed.

Yeah, no, I get it. He goes, it's a joke. It's pretty, the color. I kind of love it though. Honestly, me sometimes though, like when we watched, okay, I bring this up, you probably didn't watch it. You know what I'm going to say? Did you watch the Idol? Uh, no. Oh, really?, I bring this up, you probably didn't watch it. You know what I'm going to say? Did you watch The Idol?

Uh, no. Oh, really? No. With the late roast up, you're not into it? I know the song. Wait, what song? The song from the show? I'm just a freak, yeah. I didn't know the song, but I didn't see the show.

It's like everywhere. Oh, really? That's what I saw. That's what I know. That's all you know? Oh, well, the show made me really horny and ashamed. Like, I remember I'd get so turned on. For The Weeknd.

Yeah, which I didn't even know him before the show, but it's such a hot. Yeah. Did you know him? Do you know him? No, no. Don't know him. But I know his plastic surgery face. But that's fake, I think.

Yeah. Oh, no. It was. It definitely was fake. That's the only thing that I've seen him do. I never saw anything he was in. I literally had no idea who it was. I'm like, who is this guy?

And then Mo's like, he's The Weeknd. And I was like, I don't know who that is. I didn't even know he acted. Did you know? Yeah. You knew, but you didn't? One of the biggest, greatest songs. The song?

I know. He makes, like, good music. But that's what people say. He's the biggest. Really? But never heard, like, Blinding Lights, never heard of it before this show. Oh, I did. I have.

You knew that? How's it go? Do you know? Sing it. But I know the name of it. Wait, how does it go? Oh, yes. I don't know The Hills.

The Hills. I don't even know it. In the music video, the car explodes behind him. Oh, I actually don't know that one, and I'm, like, a Weeknd fan now. I don't know The Hills. The Hills. I don't even know it. In the music video, the car explodes behind him. Oh, I actually don't know that one, and I'm, like, a Weekend fan now. I don't know how it goes. You know that song? I've never heard The Hills. You can play it.

I know the music video, though. Yeah. I don't think I even know the song. It's, like, literally everywhere. You're going to know it. You would love The Idol, though. Would I? Because she's, like, a pop star.

Yeah. And she, yeah, she has all these people start moving into her house. Like, The Weekend's, like, this, like, really shady, like, drug, anyways, that's the whole thing. He's a drug dealer? Kind of. I don't know what he is. He's kind of just shady and is a cult leader and all this cult.

Troye Sivan. Do you remember Troye Sivan on YouTube? Yes, I love. He's so good in this show. I feel like you would really like it. Oh, I didn't know he was in it. She's like a hot girly. Yeah, and he's like her.

It's so good. Okay, I know. And anyways, the show made me horny. I was constantly clenching, and I was like, oh my God. And then Moses was right next to me and I was like weirdly embarrassed and I like didn't want him to like watch it with me. Horny and ashamed. Yeah that's what it reminds me of. So it actually is real.

But you're over the weekend now you said. Oh my god you really do keep up. I do. I'm only over it because he hasn't acknowledged me. You know what I mean? What if he did? Oh I would be like his number one fan forever. Obsessed again. You know like because like Donny Osmond you know I like loved him for so long so when he was on the podcast I was like oh my god I love you even more but like the weekend hasn't acknowledged my tweets or anything., like, Donny Osmond, you know, I, like, loved him for so long. So when he was on the podcast, I was like, oh, my God, I love you even more. But, like, The Weeknd hasn't acknowledged my tweets or anything.

Yeah. What does Donny Osmond do? I know he has a show in Vegas. He has a show in Vegas. But, like, is it stand-up or? No. He's, like, a singer from the 70s. Like, he's, like, 64 and I, like, loved him for so long.

Okay. Speaking of Vegas. Yeah. We should talk about our Vegas experience. Oh, yes. The iconic Britney Spears. Britney Spears moment. Was that the only time you met Britney or did you ever do the mean greet again?

No. That was the one time. Okay. And did we really meet the mean greet again? No. That was the one time. And did we really meet her? It was so quick. We said hi. I know. And we thought we were at the end so we were going to get like time with her. Yes.

Oh, I was like, she's going to love us. We're in tutus. That's what I thought too. She was scared. She was scared of us. Looking back now, she's going through like a rough time so she probably would just have like a lot going on. Yeah, like I don't even want to do this.

Do you remember? Oh, yeah. We saw her kids. Yes. During the tour. Yes, and the mom too, I think. Yeah. I think they were like, yeah. Going up the back. Yeah. We were like, were don't even want to do this. Do you remember? We saw her kids. Yes. During the tour. Yes, and the mom, too, I think. Yeah. They were, like, yeah. Going up the back. Yeah. We were, like, were those just her f***ing little boys? Just, like,

walking around and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, it was wild. And I thought the same thing. I thought she would, like, love us. I'm, like, oh, she's gonna, like, love us. Same, because we were vetted before from, like, her security or whatever. That's right, yeah. We went through, like, a little terminal with, like, all the... Waiting. Yeah, like, the metal machine. Yeah. And they're, like, so Brittany's very busy. Brittany's very stressed. Yeah. She has a show to waiting. Yeah. Like the, um, the metal machine. And they're like,

so Brittany's very busy. Brittany's very stressed. She has a show to do. They did say that. Yes. Um, so you got to think of what to say, what to say to her.

Keep it short. Keep it brief. And I was like, I don't know what to say to her. There's so much pressure. I said that, um, toxic changed my life.

And what did she say? I should probably just laugh. She's just like, she didn't say anything. I said, hi. I think she was like, yeah, cause we were She probably just laughed at me. She's just like. She didn't say anything. I said hi. I think she was like. Yeah.

Because we were also guys. To paint the picture. Let's insert photo here. Insert photo. We were in like. Where did my master go? The most obnoxious tutus of life. Why did we do that?

I don't know. I was doing the hair to be inspired by that today. I was giving very pageant. Well I remember I went over to your house. We got both of our hair and makeup done. And then went. And then we couldn't get your like extensions out out because they were so teased and matted. They were matted.

They were just like. Because I did tight little curls. Yeah. I don't know what I was thinking. And we couldn't get it out. It was like wild. Yeah. I feel like that was the only, not the only time, but it was one of the few times I remember

having a deep conversation on the plane. We had a conversation about when you're, because your mom recently passed. Yes. And so that was the one time I feel like we talked about it. Because that's why I was so excited to have you on the podcast. Because we never, and for some good reason like we never went deep like i was never like oh when did you know you're you know because it's just like what do you bring that conversation that's why i was excited to have you on the podcast but

in that moment i remember going to vegas you talked about your mom and i like broke my heart because like i've never grieved or anything or like also when i hear people talk about i'm just like i can't even imagine i know you tear up too and like oh my god it makes me so sad on so many levels you know for just at such a young age and she's such a young age and just for, I don't know, it's just sad. And this thing about your own kids and being so young, like leaving your daughter at 19 years old on this planet, like it's just anyways. I know after all that hard work raising them, I can't even imagine just so unfair. Yeah, no, that's what I, I mean, that's a whole other issue. I just, I don't understand how people like even get through that. Yeah. Does it ever get easier?

It's just. A hundred percent. Yes. I think, you know, having people around you that you love that you can talk to definitely helps. And I'm the exact same way as you. Like, I don't know if I would ever get deep with someone, especially someone that lost a parent.

Like, I don't know if I would ever even bring it up if I had never lost a parent. Cause it's like, you don't know what state they're in. You don't know how to relate or anything like that. I like to keep everything like light and fluffy. And I think that that was like definitely our time to bond, you know, but like, we're both kind of the same. We're like bubbly and like, like having fun and stuff like that. But yeah, it does definitely get easier. I'd say, you know, when I was dating my ex, yeah, the one in the movie. Yeah. The one that was literally the first time I had been really close with someone else who I wasn't related to, like not, not a brother of mine

or like not a, you know, a best friend who's like my chosen family. So I got to like, let it out that way. And I feel like you, you know, being with your husband and like me now being with mine, like I can talk to somebody about it, um it rather than keeping it all bottled up. Because they do say that there's like, you know, seven stages of grief or whatever, you know. I don't know. Oh, it's like anger, denial. I don't know. There's seven.

Acceptance at the end. Oh. Yeah. And I definitely went through like all of those. But then I was talking to somebody the other day. I forget who. But we were talking about like there are seven stages or feelings of grief. But, like, you go through hundreds of feelings of grief.

Like, it's like, of course, there. Was it? I don't know who said this. That's me all the time. Like, someone said this. Literally, I only talk to Moses. Always. Oh, my God.

We're so the same. Oh, my God. That was me. Oopsies. Tee. Tee. So I was talking to Nat. And yeah, I was like, of course I felt seven feelings or stages of grief. Cause I went through them all and I feel like it's completely normal, but yeah, it gets way easier. Like I'm not like crying every day anymore. And like, I, that's how I feel. Like, I'm like, now that I have like a family, I think I could handle it better. when I was like had no one by like I was lived alone and had no I don't know how I would even

survive you know what I mean. I still think it'd be very hard but yeah. So back to the Vegas trip we went to Brittany. What else did we do? Oh it was just one night. It was one night and then we fell asleep in bed didn't go out. I felt so bad because I knew you were such a club person like you'd go out with Erika. I was such a clubber. And I thought Erika

was so cool. Like I still love her. I still Erika was so cool. Like, I still love her. I still think she's so cool. Back then, I thought she was just so cool. And you guys would go to clubs together. And I was like, oh, I can never be that girl because I can never stay out late. Yeah, we got home. And I was like, so what are we going to do? Yeah. We have no plans.

But, like, we got to find a club. And you were like, I don't know. I'm going to sleep. I went to bed. But you went to bed, too. That was very sweet of you. Because I was like, I know you could have, like, gone out. We were in Vegas.

We were, like, at the Palms. So you could have, like, gone out to any of the clubs and you stayed in. And that gorgeous huge bed. I remember it still. Oh my god. And the pool and the bathroom. I don't think they even have the barbies. I don't think the Palms is around anymore, is it? Yeah, I wonder. Because they have the Playboy suite there too, right? Yeah, and I think it's gone.

Yeah. Yeah, Vegas is like so different now. Where do you guys stay? Do you go to Wynn? The Wynn, yes. We just stay. We're actually going to the Fountain Blue opening next week. They're opening a- Wow. Do they, like, invite you? Yeah.

Oh, my God. You have, like, the dream life. Like, you are, like, the influencer I always wanted to be. I think that's why I, like, loved you so much. I felt like- I want to be you with your own TV show. Okay, when I get the TV show, then it'll be cool. You're going to get a TV show.

Let's be real. Oh, my God. And then you come on to promote your reality show. Growing up Getty. That's everything. We should be on Real Housewives together. Oh, I'm so down. That'd be everything, right?

I think, well, you already have the prerequisite, a kid and a husband. Do you have a baby on the know? I don't know. They love when you have kids though. Oh, because I remember, who's the guy, like Slade, Slade, is that his name? Slade. Yeah. Oh, with Gretchen?

Yeah. And a couple other people. He was with someone else before Gretchen and they didn't have kids for so long, I think. You know who you're reminding me of right now, Housewives? Denise Richards. Oh! No, in her heyday. Like, her hot.

Doesn't she kind of look like her? No. I think. I swear. Once in your water. I mean, obviously gorgeous. Yeah. No.

I mean, Denise Richards has a very chiseled, thin face. No, you look. You're giving me Denise right now. You just looked at me and I was like, whoa. Because, like, Denise Richards, I think of that last scene on Housewives where she's kind of like slurring her words, talking to Erica. Oh, no. They shouldn't have allowed that on TV.

Do you think something was wrong? Oh, I think she was like blackout. Oh, really? That was so embarrassing. Oh, so there was something. I thought maybe she said she was sick. She said, I have a cold or something. And I was like, oh.

No, she was like, her jaw was like swinging. Because Erica did say something. She was like, I know I'm high right now, but like, what's her? Denise said something in that scene and Erica just busted out laughing at her. Like in her face. It's so funny. No, that show is kind of unhinged. I mean, I don't watch it.

I see clips of it. I love watching. I love Housewives. Oh, you love it? I would 100% go on. Oh, I never see it. I just see clips of it. They actually pitched me before and they said that I was too young. Oh, okay. And I was like, all right. Yeah, you love it. I would 100% go on. Oh, I never see it. I just see clips of it. They actually pitched me before and they said that I was

too young. Oh, okay. And I was like, alright. Yeah, I guess. I think the youngest housewife, though, is like 35, so it's like, I'm not that much younger. Oh my god, so I would be the youngest housewife right now. I'm 35. Crystal, I think, is the youngest. I don't know her. She's on Housewives right now. On Beverly Hills? Beverly Hills Housewives, yeah. Yeah, I heard

she's like early 30s. I don't really know that much about housewives, but I would love to be on. I just watch watch a few there was a rumor that I was gonna be on it and literally oh I remember that rumor no they like they commented you know most people don't comment and they're like absolutely not I love when people just shut it down that's hilarious the rumor I was like retweeting and then rep says, absolutely not. It's like my podcast. Yes. It came very fast. No. You're not even problematic, though.

I don't get it. As bad as I don't think I was. It's like, what's going on? I think I'm just, like, known to be. And people just, like, love you. And I'm like, but no, not her. Like, everyone's a fan of you, I feel. I feel like you're, like, the people's princess.

Literally. Oh, wait, the people's princess. OK, NASA said I was the people's princess. Really, though? Oh, my god. I love it. Me like you're like the people's princess. Literally. The people's princess. Okay, NASA said I was the people's princess. Really, though? Oh, my God. I love it. Me and Princess Diana, the people's princess.

I don't know. I'm trying, yeah, I don't know. Because sometimes I look back and I'm like, I get it. I've been a little controversial, but it's like there's people who are actual horrible people

that people just love and praise and get all these brand deals. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? That actually do weird, messed up shit. You just said you were a chicken nugget yeah

like that doesn't hurt anyone and I was also going through something at the time so I feel like it's one of those things like that shouldn't have been aired you know what I mean and it's just like there it was your Denise moment yes there was a couple things oh I'm so oh my god thank you you read my mind wow so hydrated thank you

oh my oh my god yes yes please transgender man, and Gigi posted a video saying, I stand in solidarity with her. Oh, my. I will call Trisha a key. Oh, my God. Okay, can we talk about. Yes, please. Okay, so, yeah, no, I did this, I did a video, because obviously now it's like, worded it wrong, but I really did struggle with, like, gender just in general.

But now people kind of get what I was saying. Like, now because there's non-binary. I get what you were saying, yeah. Like, they can look back and be like, oh, no, I actually get what she was saying. You know what I mean? So, yeah, anyways, but you were, but I remember you, you voice memo me. You're like, I'm going to do a video. Oh yeah. That's what it was. And I was terrified. I don't think I answered. Did I answer? You did answer. So I,

so I was on set. I was like on set with Facebook or something all day that day. So I was getting all of these like texts and comments and retweets or whatever. And people were being like, oh, you need to comment on the Tricia thing. And I was like, why? Like what's going on? And then you're, I think the title of the video was like, I am transgender or something. And I was like, this has to be a joke. So then I go to it and I watch it and I was like, Oh my God, I like feel so bad for her. Like, I was like, this is like, you know, she's getting all these like, no, you're not like, so I was like, Oh my God. So I was like, I just got to call her. I'm like, I'm not going to make a video and talk about this. This is so stupid. So I called you and then I was like, Hey da so I was like oh my god so I was like I just gotta call her I'm like I'm not gonna make a video and talk about this this is so stupid so I called you and then I was like hey so like

everybody wants me to make a video on this like what's going on then we just like briefly spoke and I remember I was like leaving the building and then I was like I guess I'm gonna talk about this then so I remember because I was like sincere in it like I really like I really it was not meant to be offensive or a joke or trolling I really wasn't it was – it was not meant to be offensive or trolling. It really wasn't. It was my first time like that I did like drag like I did and I was like, you know, dressing like a boy or whatever. And I was like, this feels like better. So I – and I always – but I always thought that. Like the reason I'm hyper femme is because of like, yeah, like my essay when I was young and stuff.

And I just didn't want to be – I didn't want boobs because like they were touched as like a kid and stuff. And I just – I don't know. I always had like an issue with – but then I went hyper femme because I was like that's a character that's whatever yeah so anyways back to back to the video and so then I made this because I was on tour and I remember someone telling me like their story and so I made the video thinking people will be and 2019 was a crazy year I was on meth I was in the mental hospital like it was a crazy year so there was just like a lot happening but um but I remember you called and I was like the last thing I went to especially because we we were friends, is like ever like offend you. Like someone I know personally.

You know what I mean? Yes. Especially because you had a couple coming out videos. You like came out as trans and then lesbian. Pan. Yeah. So you had like a lot. So it's like I never wanted to make it seem like I was like mocking or like making a joke of like coming out videos.

Yeah. I felt honestly commenting on it was like so silly also. Like I knew you were, you were going through something and I just felt like I didn't, I don't remember feeling like it was trolling. I just felt like it was just a video. You know what I mean? But it was like labeled wrong, I guess. No, definitely weren't terribly. Yeah. So I don't know. I feel like binary back then. I'm sorry for even commenting on it. Like, it was just so silly. It's like, who am I to be, like, the transgender police? Well, I guess because you are, like, the icon of, like, trans internet. But, like, I don't need to comment on your identity.

It's like, what? Do you know what I mean? No, I get it for sure. Yeah, so I'm sorry about that. That was a weird time. No, no. I was standing up for you. Yeah, you were.

I tried to, yeah, because I was like, well, this is my friend. Also, in that video, side note, side note, I had just had my hairline surgery done. So I had like a fucking, I had like a cowboy hat on and a scarf. That's what it was. It was so ugly. So ugly. Like, oh my God, just stay off camera, girl. I don't know if it was trolling or real, but either way, you did see him in solidarity

with me. You were like, you know what? He is T. I think it might have been a bit of trolling and a bit of, I don't know if it was trolling or real, but either way, you did see him in solidarity with me. You were like, you know what? He is T. I think it might have been a bit of trolling and a bit of, I don't know. It's just silly. In the moment, I got all these texts and an hour later I was filming. So it was just stupid. Yeah.

And we did talk. Now that I remember, we did talk beforehand. So I was just like, as long as you weren't offended by it. Because even looking back, I was just like, I can admit something was trolling or I was high or I was just looking for attention. But that one, I was actually trying to convey like sincere and it just didn't come across. Actually, a very, very, very, I won't name her obviously, but a very successful influencer. She was at my house for a Christmas party.

And she was discussing to me about her gender journey. And it was very similar to what you are saying. Oh, really? Yeah. And I was, huh? Yeah. Hyper femme. I would have never expected this from her, but she. Hyper femme, cis female. Yes. And thinking possibly. Yes. And I was like, oh my God, like this is amazing. Like good for you. And, um, you know, just goes to show you never know. Yeah. And I feel like it's always been something there, but it's like, you just like, you don't know. And like, you like

almost like play a character and stuff. You suppress it, so you're like, oh. Yeah. Also, yeah, I feel like definitely the character aspect. But I feel like a lot of people, I think very, very few people are 100% femme or 100%. Oh, yeah. That's a spectrum. Yes.

You talk about the spectrum in your book, too, just of gender. Yeah. What's expected of you. Like, I feel like I was so hyper feminine voice on 10 high pitch, trying to be really small, trying to be super feminine all the time, never going out without makeup, all that stuff. And then that just fades away and you really like fade into the real person that you are, but you know, it is easier to hide behind a persona or like a character. Yeah. So then it's not really like you. You're not getting hurt. You're not like taking any of the brunt.

Yeah. Definitely. Can you, if you want to talk about this, if you're comfortable, but you were talking about in your video a little bit about coming off hormones and not tucking. Yes. And how has that been? So that was a huge life change that I had to make for my fertility because I was talking to a friend of mine and he was like, oh, um, I froze my sperm with my husband's sperm.

Um, and it's actually a really successful drag queen. I won't name her cause I don't know, don't have her consent, but there's only a few married ones. So you guys can probably guess. And she was like, oh girl, if you're still tucking, you probably shouldn't be doing that because anything tight down there will restrict the sperm flow. And I was like, what? Yeah.

You would never think that. So I was like, what? Yeah. You would never think that. So I was like, okay, yeah, I'll just not tuck. And then like all of my clothes require me to tuck. So I was like, okay, what the am I going to wear? So I thought it was, it was going to be easy, but it really was a huge lifestyle change. And I haven't tucked in like over a year now. Wow. And is it more of the clothes or just the feeling for you? It's both. So I would, I would tuck every single day. Like that was something that I would just do. Like I would never leave the house without tucking. Like at home I would be like untucked or whatever, but just for comfortability. But when I would go out, I'd be more comfortable

if I was tucking. So it was just, it was crazy. But yeah, that was one of the many lifestyle changes. How do you feel now? I feel fine. Would you ever go back? Are you like, actually this is so much better. It kind of is better. Yeah, totally. I can imagine. It doesn't really bother me anymore. I'm like, meh. Why do they call it RuPaul's Untucked? Why do they have that show?

Wait, what? Yeah, the Untucked. Oscar, are you dying? Do you know what I mean? Oh, you know. Because they're taking off the costumes. They go backstage to get comfortable and spill all the tea. And that's where they untuck. Oh, they untuck on it. No, they don't.

Oh. They're still being filmed. They want to look good. But it's giving like, we're going backstage. Oh. We're undressing. Oh. Be like Trisha's makeup wipe.

When we're done this, we're going to be taking off our makeup. Right. So wouldn't untucking for them be part of that? No, because you have to go back on stage. Oh. Yeah. To do like the elimination. Oh my God.

They stole that like title from the trans world or something like that. Like isn't that crazy? Like they're like, or is that a drag world? I don't know. I think it's both. Okay. I don't know. Anybody that has a dick that wants to tuck it, that's where world? I don't know. I think it's a gay. I don't know. Anybody that has a dick

that wants to tuck in, that's where they stole it from. Okay, I don't know. I don't want to be disrespectful. I don't know a lot about the drag community, so I'm so sorry. I don't want to offend any drag. I literally just watched RuPaul for the first time because I knew I was on Snatch Game, so I was like, I'll watch it this season or whatever. Wait, who did you again? Sugar from Sugar and Spice.

Yeah, so when they texted me, I was like, I'll watch it. And then I became addicted. I watched the whole season. So I really liked it. But then I didn't. I can't find it anymore. Did you ever do, we can cut this, but did you ever do Escape the Night? No. I wasn't asked.

I wasn't asked either. And you know what? Horseshit. Joey has gone on record lately because I keep talking about how I was never asked. And like literally everyone, like Gabby, Tana, everyone, Colleen, everyone was asked on the show. I was not asked. Okay.

Because he literally, he's gone on a podcast recently and he's like, YouTube didn't want her. And I was like, oh my god. Oh my god. You're three for three. He's like, I picture every season. He's sent Oscar a deck. He's like, she's always been on my list. He's like, YouTube's just like, no. Isn't that crazy?

It is wild. I love that. I'm shocked people want to come on my podcast. I'm like, no. Who doesn't want to be on the show? This is the best show ever. That's wild. Hearing all this stuff, I'm like, oh, my God, that's actually a case. People are like, it's in your head. It's not true.

I'm like, no, it's actually true. No, there's facts. So many people. I've heard from many people. Now multiple sources. I know. Oh, my God. It's so wild.

Well, I'm glad that you were never asked either because you were friends with him, too. So it's kind of. Yeah, I don't remember being asked, but I would have done it if I was asked. Okay, yeah. You don't remember. So I probably wasn't. You would have. A hundred percent.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I remember there was like at VidCon, there was like billboards of it. Yeah, it was like crazy. Oh, yeah, because you were part of the YouTube red, like they gave you money for your documentary, right? Yeah, I was one of the first three that they put out. Oh, I remember. I had billboards like in Australia when I went.

Oh, I was, I remember when that happened. And again, envious in the best way. I was just like, this is amazing. Like you were so. I was so gagged. All the money they put behind it, I was, I remember when that happened and to get envious in the best way, I was just like, this is amazing. Like you were so, I was so gagged. All the money they put behind it, I was so gagged.

That's crazy. I heard that I was gonna get a couple billboards on Sunset. I think I had two and then like the whole W Hotel in Hollywood was covered with me. Oh my God, I remember.

And they're like, yeah, it'll be one month and then like six months later it was still all up. Really? I was like, what is going on? Inside of the grill.

The grill. It was like everywhere. I thought that's where I used to live and I would always see it. I was like, it's all the escape the night in you. Yeah, it was like out of body. I was like, what is going on? Inside of the grill. The grill. It was like everywhere. I thought that's where I used to live and I would always see it. I was like, it's all the escape the night in you. Yeah. It was like out of body. I was like, what is happening right now?

It was so beautiful. And you had like a big, I remember, premiere for it. It was like so cool. And my dad came. Yeah. No, that one probably would have been the most emotional. Like, was that one of your highlights for you and like career wise? Oh, for sure.

Having like a documentary about you. How old? What were you like 25 or something? I don't remember. How many years ago? 24? Yeah, you were young. Yeah.

Were you in at the end? The Dubai part was in at the end? Yeah. Very at the end. That's good though. At least, yeah. That's why you have to do

the second documentary because it's like, yeah. Because now people are really seeing where you come from there. Yeah. It's giving adult. It's giving adult. It's giving like

really accomplishing anything. When I watched your IVF update video, like it was like it literally that one made me cry that one made me tear because it's so like you said the end you're like anything is like possible like truly because i didn't know about any of this stuff you know like how you know because i am like ignorant when it comes to like hormones i have no idea how that works well most people would be yeah yeah it's not in your life so you would just assume like, you wouldn't have children or couldn't have your own children. You know what I mean? But then saying the story and being so open is so inspiring. It's like amazing. And it's so beautiful. It really is. I was just like, wow. And being so open and vulnerable, like you talking

about untucking and your sperm, all this stuff. It's like, I know I never, it's a lot. Sometimes when you look at the camera and record a video, are you like, I can't believe I'm saying this right now. Yeah. I try not to anymore because I'm like, let me just tone back what I say. But I love the openness and I feel like, yeah, I wish I could be more open. You are so open. I try to be, but people do judge. Like the postpartum thing when I was like, I didn't bond with my baby right away. Everyone's like, oh my God, wow, what a bad mom.

You know what I mean? That is so relatable though. I'm sure so many moms feel like that. That's why I just try to be honest too because when I watch your kind of videos too, I was just like, you know, someone else is going through this, you know, experience or knowing someone or something. So the amount of girls that I've gotten that have been like, Oh my God, I'm just about to start hormones. Thank you for this information. Like I can finally freeze. I can freeze what I have because I do want kids down the line. Like that is, that's like the cherry on top of the cake for me. I think that is like,

what's really amazing. Cause like you didn't know. So you're like, I wouldn top of the cake for me. I think that is like what's really amazing because like you didn't know. No. So you're like I wouldn't have known to do this. So now I'm sharing that with other people. You never know if you want to freeze your stuff. Yeah. But I think that's such a good message because I feel like people do it like too late in life. Like freezing eggs too late in life and all that stuff, which is cool. And I didn't know you could freeze.

You can freeze sperm? Yep. Oh, I didn't know that either. So all that stuff is amazing. Yeah. And how long have you been off hormones? I've been off hormones now for over a year. Yeah.

But I wonder if it's almost like you were talking about lip injections, how they just stay. Like it doesn't like – you think it just – because you don't look any different, your voice, your face. Well, it's the skin for me. That's the biggest change. That's wild because my mom's like, your skin is flawless. Well, I have a shit ton of makeup on. No, but in person it's like flawless. It looks so good. Oh, my God. Stop. Like I can is flawless. Well, I have a shit ton of makeup on. No, but in person, it's like flawless. It looks so good. Oh my god, stop. Like, I can

see your body. You don't have body full makeup on. You have like everything, your face, everything. No, just like the skin, the texture and the facial hair and like just like everything is like not as soft without estrogen. Like, I always think estrogen is kind of like the pretty injection or the pretty pill. Oh, okay. But without it, like

and Cade says in our book, like testosterone is like the ugly, the ugly hormone. Oh, that gives you the hair and all that stuff. And the acne and like, just all like the. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. No.

So that's the one thing I can't wait to get back on. Oh, so you will after you have all the embryos. Yes. After we're, we're happy with the number of embryos that I will. But as for right now, I'm still trying to get my, my sperm swimmers up. The stronger, the better.

But that's like, like you said, your kids will see that and be like, wow, like they really tried so hard to have me here. You know, I'm going to be like, don't talk back to me,

you little bitch. You know what I, you know what I sacrificed for you? Look at this video. I brought you into this earth. I could take you out. Are you going to be that parent? I will be that parent.

Because you did, you have done so much work, you know, cause it's, it's not easy. And like a lot of couples, this earth. I could take you out. Are you going to be that parent? I will be that parent. Because you did, you have done so much work, you know, cause it's not easy. And like a lot of couples, a lot of people struggle with infertility and stuff like that. It's a journey. It really is. And it's so crazy that we got so lucky that I had no sperm and like, you know, Nats had his, you know, history with his past and all the abuse and stuff like that, that we were both able to recover, make lifestyle changes and like get our samples, you know, healthy enough. Healthy embryos. That it actually took.

And like, just, there's so many steps to it. Like there's a genetic mutation process test that you do. Just all the things we were, we were cleared from all of them. It's like, what the, how did this happen to us? How amazing is that? We just got so lucky. And relatively fast within like a year of changing your lifestyle and stuff like that. It is.

It's a beautiful. No, the doctor was like, we never see like the, from the first embryo, uh, from the first egg retrieval to the second, she was like, we never see this much like growth. Wow. Really? Crazy. That's why I like the human body is so beautiful that like produces this life, creates life like beyond like any circumstances.

It's so, is this a pregnancy podcast? Literally. Literally. Literally. Baby, baby on board. Baby on board. Talking about IVF. That's what it is.

I'm so fascinated by it because I'm in this era of my life. I'm just so fascinated by all of it. Oh, I think it's so, so fascinating.

It's so cool. Like I love, and that's why like we were talking about Paris earlier too. I just like love, like she doesn't share so much about her journey,

but I've been watching her second season and like you kind of were seeing glimpse of it and I was like, it's so interesting. Like she was doing the injections and stuff and I had no idea.

I know. I didn't either. When she told me she did IVF, I was like, when? Yeah. Just the whole time you've been doing it? Yeah. You would never know. I know.

And she's so busy. Like she. Oh yeah. And just seeing people do it, just the physical action of it just like is like, wow, that's like a lot. And it's amazing that you've done it. Like Gigi was telling us every day, like just like how every other day you guys were going in doing the injections like it's just.

And like bruises and swelling and just your abdomen being so sore. Your body just changing all your hormones and stuff like that. It's just like a lot just dealing with it. Science. Yeah. Well I can't wait for your maternity shoot. You were talking about how you were going to do the belly. Oh you already know.

When we give birth the day before I'm going to be like baby drop. It's going to be a Photoshopped belly onto me. I like the idea of having, you were saying the surrogate behind you and just kind of like hold it. Cause it's, it's like, I think it's going to be so beautiful. Oh my gosh. I want those photos just for me. I don't know if anyone's going to be offended by that. No, I don't know. Somebody's going to have something beautiful. Oh my gosh. I can't wait. I want those photos just for me. I don't know if anyone's going to be offended by that. No. Why? I don't know. Somebody's going to have something to say.

I think it's your pregnancy, your babies. You could do literally whatever. Let me live my fantasy. Yeah. For sure. But I held it. Yeah. No.

I think that's so beautiful. I like it. I like that you're down and open for all that. Yeah. I'm excited. That's definitely happening. Oh my gosh. It's so cute.

Oh my gosh. I can't wait. I can't wait. So you're going to have a little boy. I want a little boy. So bad. That's so cool. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited for it. Little blue eyed little cute. Oh, my gosh. I can't wait. I can't wait. So you're going to have a little boy. I want a little boy so bad. That's so cool. Oh, my gosh.

I'm so excited for it. Little blue-eyed little boy. Oh, my. Oh, I wonder. Do you get to pick the eye color? No, we're not doing that. Oh, you can though, right? You can.

So I've heard that, but we just know the gender of our embryos. Like, they never, like, told us any other, like, statistics. I know you can pick, like, eye color and stuff. You can change a lot of stuff. Blue eye is a dominant gene. What color eyes do you have? Green? I have you can pick like eye color and stuff. You can change a lot of stuff. Blue eyes are dominant, Jean. What color eyes do you have? Green? I have like hazel. Hazel. No, they're like green gray. They're light.

And a lot of my family has like the exact same color eyes as me. Yeah, blue is a very dominant Jean. Like I feel like Matt Blue looks nothing like me except for the blue eyes. Like she has the blue eyes. She has beautiful big eyes too. Yeah, she has like lashes. That's from him because I have no eyelashes. So I feel like the blue is very like dominant. I feel like it's going to come through. And I do love that because I'm like, oh my god, my blue eyes. Blue eyes is kind of a slay. Yeah. She has like lashes. That's from him. Cause I have no eyelashes. So I feel like the blue is very like dominant. I feel like.

Yeah. And I do love that. Cause I'm like, Oh my God, my blue eyes. Cause blue eyes is kind of a slay. I love blue eyes. I know.

I was like. Blue eyes, blonde hair. I'm like, so like, or like red hair. Cause a lot of my family has red hair. Oh,

I'm like a little ginger. Oh my God. That would be so cute. I love little like redheaded babies. Me too. Is ginger offensive? I don't know. I feel like everything is. I know. I feel like everything is too, but I just love a ginger,

like a beautiful little ginger child. I don't think it's offensive, right? It's like, yeah. So, okay. Being on YouTube for 15 years, like right, your first video was 2008. Yeah. Being on YouTube 15 years, what has been the best and worst YouTube trend that you've seen? Oh, you know, I'm going to be so lame. I love doing monthly favorites videos. Oh, no. I love it. I tried to bring that back a year ago. No one cared.

Oh, I just love it. I love knowing, like, even, like, Jaclyn Hill will do them now. Does she? Like, what you need from Amazon or, like, monthly favorites. It's all, like, affiliate links. It is. But, like, I just love it. Yeah.

Because, like, sometimes I'm like, oh, my God, I never thought I needed something like that. She has good pics, too. She does. Like, I trust her takes. Definitely. Yeah. So I miss those videos. I wish everyone would do them. You are great at favorites too. I loved it. And it was just

like at the end of the month, I was like, okay, what have I been loving? And then everyone would be like, I buy everything that you talk about. Oh yeah. You are definitely influential. I just love it. Perfumes, everything. Today you said you were in Fantasy by Britney Spears. Fantasy, Britney Spears, yeah. I wish you had the bottle because it matches our set. I know. I like was going through my perfumes and I was like, yep,

this one's pink. Today, yeah. Today is this. Although it doesn't last. It's not high quality perfume. It's like a body spray. Right. You get it at Walgreens now or something. I got it at actual CVS. I love it.

No, curious. But CVS is expensive now. Their perfumes are like $15. I was like, oh, my God. $15? Yeah. Oh. Kind of expensive.

I got mine in a set. I think it was like $10. Oh, my God. Like with the lotion and stuff like that? Yeah, with the lotion. What was the YouTube trend you hated the most? When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most? When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard.

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I don't know if I really hated any. Did you hate any? Like, there wasn't anything that just... Oh, well, you said, like, prank versus prank. Like, prank videos. Couple videos. Yeah, when it's fake. Like, cringey. Did you ever watch, like, FouseyTube? I well, you said, like, prank versus prank, like, prank videos, couple videos. Yeah, when it's fake. Like, cringey.

Did you ever watch, like, FouseyTube? I didn't watch any of them, but they were, like, prankers. FouseyTube lost his mind, huh? I think, like, actually, I think he's going through, like, some. I saw clips, and I was like, Jesus Christ. Well, he was, like, live streaming 24 hours, which is, like, not good for anyone to do. Yeah. But I think, I know he's talked about being bipolar, maybe not.

Like, maybe not. I don't know. I know he's had issues. It is sad. I always think that, too, like, YouTube should youtube should like or i think he was on twitch i'm like someone should step in when they're like yeah a little destructive like mental health um people yeah i feel like i wish youtube would have done that with me like in 2019 when i was just being like reckless when i post like 20 videos in one night at like midnight yeah i'm like why don't they step in and be like

this is not you know or people who's like 100 tiktoks in one day just like erratic right i don't know there's clearly an episode of 100 TikToks in one day just like erratic. Right. I don't know. There's clearly an episode of some kind happening. Yeah, you think social media should like step in. Wait, what? Yeah, no, Nats reached out. We were talking about this actually. Wait, to YouTube or to me?

To you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. To YouTube. To the president, the White House again. Oh my God. That's right, you're calling the White House. You're like, do you need help? Yeah, no.

Trisha needs help at the White House. And you know, you're one of literally the only people to do it. I feel like my other friends would be like, oh, it's just Trisha. She's just looking for attention or something like that. But sometimes even when someone like looks like they're needing attention, it's like a cry for help. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. So you always, and like that again, that's a real thing because literally like no one else would like do that. But yeah, I guess like YouTube trends, there's nothing. Is there like a YouTube community that you're like, ugh, I'm over? There's no communities anymore. The gaming community? I just am not a gamer.

Just in general. You never gamed? No. Never did a Minecraft? Fortnite? I don't even know what that is now. Same. I don't know. Is it like shooting? Like a shooting game? Yes. Well, I think it's Call of Duty. I think Fortnite is... I have no idea. My sister's a gamer girl over there. Really? Yeah. Oh my god. I just don't get it. I don I think it's Call of Duty. Oh. I think Fortnite is, I have no idea. My sister's a gamer girl over there. Really?

Oh my God, I just don't get it. I don't get it either. People are like, oh yeah, I like building my village in this game. It's like, why? It's like, yeah, there's like an island one, like a pet one or something people play. Yeah, like, everyone was obsessed with one. What was that one? You loved it during quarantine.

Animal Crossing. Oh, yeah. I heard you talk about that. I was like one? You loved it during quarantine. Animal Cross. Oh, yeah. I heard you talk about that. I was like, is he kidding? No, not kidding. He has like a Neopets shirt. He loves gaming. They both love gaming.

I just, I don't have that in me. I don't either. I think it's a waste of time. I think so, too. Like, what are you doing? Why are you there for 20 hours on a video game? Wait, and what do you have to show for it? I know.

What is the point of it? Like, look at my village. Let me plug this into a wall so you can look at a screen to look at my fake world. The gaming community is going to show for it. I know. What is the point of it? Like, look at my village. Let me plug this into a wall so you can look at a screen to look at my fake world. The gaming community is going to come for us. They're going to be like, do you know any gamers right now? Like, the top gamers? No. Do you know XQC?

Yeah. Okay. How do you know him, then, if you don't know? Just from this show. Oh. We don't know him. We just always talk about him because I hear the name. I just know the name, yeah.

I know XQC. Yeah, we just hear it all the time. I don't know. There's another one. Who was the one? Oh, MatPat. Do you know him? Nope. Yeah. I don't know either. Nope. I just know these names. Yeah. I mean, I'll play like Mario Party or like Mario Kart. Oh, so that's, you can play. I don't even play that. But like for actually 10 minutes. Yeah. And then you're like over it. Yes. Same, same, same. Like back to real life now. That's how I feel too. I'm just like, I don't know. Yeah. What about the beauty community? Did you ever consider yourself a part of it?

I think back in the day. Really? Yeah. Because I've never considered you part of, like, not in, like, a bad way, but I was, like, there was always, like, influencers, like, the Mannys, the Jacklins. I wasn't just strictly. I was more lifestyle. Right.

Like, I think that that outweighed, like, my love for beauty or fashion. But, yeah, I think that those people, like, that you just mentioned and, like, a and like a few others were like the beauty community because like, that's all they did. Yeah. Just make up all the time. And then it would be like, one would be like my coming out story. Oh, right. But it would be like tutorial, tutorial, monthly favorites. Whereas like, I feel like my content was very lifestyle. Right. Were you ever friends? Were you ever in that group? Like Nikki tutorials? Like were you ever friends with like those people? Not Nikki. No. I've, I've met her a few times. Were you friends with Jacqueline? Like, I don't know? Like, were you ever friends with, like, those people? Not Nikki, no. I've met her a few times. Were you friends with Jacqueline?

Like, I don't know Jacqueline at all, but, like, were you friends with her? I think I've met her, like, once. Oh, okay. But we're, like, very, very, like, cordial online. Yeah. That's good, yeah. I'm just, like, friendly with everyone. You are.

That's what I'm saying. You love everybody. Yeah. Is there anyone you don't love? Um. Well, I mean, there's a couple people we've already said in this, but you don't. Like, I feel like you're just so unbiased. Like, if you don't know someone or don't care, you're just like, I don't care.

Yeah, I definitely find, like, people annoying, but I can't think of anyone right now. Have you talked to Shane? No. Because you guys were pretty close. Yeah, we were. We were, yeah. Last time I talked to Shane, I think I literally hit him up to send him my book. Oh, love that.

I think. Did he get it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He always love that. I think. Did he, did you get it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He always loved you.

Like, I remember he like really, really loved you. Yeah. And he was like. I liked him a lot too. I remember the first time we met, he came over to my apartment and we just filmed a collab and then spent like two hours talking on my couch. Yeah. That's the one thing about him I really liked is it was never just like collab and go, which

like in one sense is like cool, but he was very much just like would hang out and maybe he wasn't like that with everyone, but he would then want to go out to dinner or something. Yeah. Yeah. We literally talked forever. And then like, I'm sure like the sun set and we were like, oh, that was a while. Yeah.

It was like six. Do you remember? You probably don't remember this cause it's like, it's so niche, but like in my beach apartment, I remember I called and I think like. You called me? Yeah. And I said something like, I think I told you I had like a crush on him or something you remember it was like awkward do you remember that kind of a little bit and it was kind of like and then Shane thought we were like making fun of him or talking about

him but we were being weird because I was like in love with him or something yes and I was like he's like were you guys being mean about me like were you guys like whatever and I was like and I had to tell him and this was like so embarrassing and I was like no I just like really like you wait and I remember I remember I was like tell him like go. Yes. But he kind of had a girlfriend like he wasn't broken up officially with her yet but like he was always around. Oh my god. And I was like oh I kind of like him. Wait that's so awkward. At one level so many levels. Oh my god. It made me so embarrassed and I like we never talked about it again because I told him. It's like high school. Yeah.

I was like yeah you should tell him because it was, I think it was after a strawberry viewing party like when we would eat Domino's. I think we even got chocolate dipped strawberries. I'm pretty sure we did

and then like that night, like we stayed until like 6 a.m. I think Drew was there for a really long time and I don't know. I remember. Yeah, okay,

you remember. Yeah, I remember. You're the only one I think that knows that. I think I told Shane and then it was like Super Rocker and we never talked about it again.

He's just like, oh, okay. Well, now everyone knows. Trisha used to have a crush on Shane. Romantic. that knows that. I think I told Shane and then it was like super awkward and we never talked about it again. He's just like, oh, okay. Well, now everyone knows. Trisha used to have a crush on Shane. Romantic. I really did.

I know. I really. You're like, am I mixing signals here? I think I love you. I mixed in the signals. I was. He's like, I'm gay. Literally, like it literally came out.

It came out right after that. Yeah. I was just like, oh, okay. Oh my God. I remember when he wasn't out right yeah that's crazy yeah and i i remember when he did come out and i was i was like shocked i was shocked like i don't know i guess i'm just i don't assume anything about anyone you know what i mean i never thought he was gay really no i didn't either i really didn't i actually pride myself on my gaydar okay i really do no i never really thought that technically he's bi right he didn't come out as gay oh he didn't. I actually pride myself on my gaydar. Okay. I really do. No, I never really thought that. Well, I guess technically he's bi, right? He didn't come out as gay.

Oh, he didn't? Oh, I thought he came out as bi. If he came out as gay, Oscar. You know. Oscar. Bye. Bye, yes. Let's ask the gay.

Oscar knows everyone, if they come out or not. So I was like, with Shane, I feel like you would know. Okay, yeah, I think he just came out as bi. Okay. I think. Well, I didn't know that. I genuinely thought he was straight for so long. Yeah, yeah, I think he just came out as bi. Okay. I think. Well, I didn't know that. I genuinely thought he was straight for so long. Yeah, yeah.

I really did. Same, same. Which is wild, looking back now. Because, like, Avi. Wait, why is it Avi? I still, like, I don't know. I don't know. He just gives that off to me now.

Okay. He has, like, a beard and stuff, so I guess mask, like, you know, I may as well be masked anyways. I don't want to get in trouble with that. He's like a bear. Right? And Ryland is the honor. I think bear just means fairy, right? I think. I don't know. I don't think he's hairy. I don't know. I's like a bear. Right? And Ryland is the otter. I think bear just means

hairy, right? I think. I don't know. I don't know. What's an otter? It's something. Otter is like skinnier but hairy. Silver otter is silver hairy. Silver otter daddy is Moses.

I just said that and made eye contact with him. I was like, okay, now I have to say his name. I love it. Put that as your screen name, Silver Otter Daddy. Oh, I'm sure that's someone's screen name. I love that, actually. Yeah, they're the same. No, I just remember those days.

I was just like, oh, man. An era. Yeah. That's where we, in that apartment you had, is where we filmed The Beach, Never Underestimate a Girl. That music video. Do you remember I had you film that music video? Is's so no that's down i have no it must be up i don't delete shit no really oh my gosh vanessa hudgens yes what was it for just for fun just fun i loved it though i was like yes let's do it i think i just got boobs and i was so excited

so i was like will you film me prancing around in a bikini oh you used to do music videos like that a lot though you used to do it i like that a lot, though. I did. You used to do it. I thought that was so iconic. Did you edit them, too? Yep. Your editing is so good. Yeah, I can be a little nerdy. I'd rather edit than play video games. No, I mean, that's, I've never learned to edit ever on 16 Years of YouTube. I have no idea how to edit.

But you edit sometimes, right? No, I, like, splice it together. Like, I can put it together. That's all I do, really, too. No, you were, like, syncing music and. Oh, yeah. You were, I don't know how to do that at all. Or you put background music in.

I have no idea. Really? I can't even upload to a computer. That's why I give it to Oscar and be like, okay. I don't know how to upload things. That's insane. I just airdrop now my things, but yeah. It's wild.

I mean, respect. You've gone 15 years without learning how to edit. I think that's why I've never popped off. People are like, no. I just know. I mean, honestly, you're popping off every single day, first of all. Oh, my gosh. I love nerdy shit like that, though.

Like, editing, Photoshop. Like, I just, like, want to know how to do it. That's great. Yeah, I never learned to Facetune either. Really? I never Facetuned. Oh, I'm so, like, artistic. I just love doing all that shit.

Yeah, that is what's cool about you. But that's why you're so good at makeup, because you did your own glam today. I always do. That's wild to me. Really? First off, love. But it makes sense, because you were always so good at makeup. Do you still use the Dior spray foundation?

I don't, but I need a new foundation. I just ran out. I'm probably going to get that. MAC Cosmetics Studio Fix. You're still on the MAC train. We're just talking about how there's no MAC stores around anymore. Oh, really? Not even Hollywood and Highland?

No. And no Grove. Oh, maybe Hollywood and Highland, but not at the Grove, not at Robertson. That's crazy. There's one in the airport. Yeah. In LAX. Well, but that's in like

the crappy terminal that's the one like going to Vegas that's like the crappier terminal oh is it yeah I always end up at that terminal

I don't know that's the shitty end of the airport I don't know what I'm talking about oh it is oh okay just cutting

I actually have no idea yeah I don't know I don't travel anymore I just shop at Ulta or Namie's. Oh, so you're not even like a Mac person anymore. Were you ever in Sephora?

Did you ever do collabs? No. Oh, you never did like a collab with a makeup brand in there? I think when I did Too Faced, my face was on it. Yeah. But no, not like my products or anything. Do you like Too Faced? Did you like the collaboration? Love. Because I heard like bad, not from you, but just I heard like they kind of like shorten some people, you know. I think Nikki Tutorials I think got like the collaboration? Love. Because I heard like bad, not from you, but just I heard like they kind of like short

end some people. You know, I think. Like money wise? Nikki Tutorials I think got like $30,000. Allegedly $30,000. Oh, I heard about this. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, they f***ed her.

Yeah, but I don't know if that's true. That's alleged. They didn't f*** me. Oh, really? No. You get the greatest deals though. I mean, Scott. Shout out Scott.

Yes. I always wanted him to be a manager. He's like, no, I don't want Trisha either. Four for four. I've always seen him being cool with him. He's like, no, I don't want Trisha either. Four for four. I've always seen him being cool with him. I'm like, okay, when is it? When am I getting in this? Trisha, you're literally going to kill me.

Tell me. Tell me. No, no, no. I'm not saying you're going to just kill me. No. I'm just so like. I'm like, I don't have any secrets. You're just going to kill me.

I was envious of you. I still am. I think your life is like so. I'm always. Just because you always had it like together. Cause I think you've gone through stuff and like you said, you just don't like share like all of it, like, you know, with everybody, but I'm just like, Oh, you just always get it together. Even through the stuff you've been through. Thanks Trish. I mean, we both ended up in pretty good places, I would say. Yeah. I'm glad. I'm glad. Took us a minute. I was worried about me, but I definitely was like,

no, when I saw everything that, you know, that came for you minute I was worried about me but I definitely was like no when I saw everything that you know that came for you I was like that's amazing because you're just a good person and I've always said that about you there's very few people I think are like good people

I do think Joey's a good person too I think he's the only other YouTuber I think is like a genuine good person uh huh or at least not like fake I wouldn't even say that I'm just kidding

I actually don't know I don't know either I'm like I can't even say I don't really know any YouTubers that personally. Really? No, just kind of like friendly. Wait, really? No.

I feel like you never had like a deeper friendship with like anyone on YouTube. Influencers? I mean, I guess that's wrong. I have a few. Like La Demi? Yes. But she's not really like a YouTuber. She's kind of just.

She's like what though? Like a socialite. Like what is she? Yeah. She's just like around the town always. Like, you know. She's kind of just, she's like what though? Like a socialite. Like what is she? Yeah. She's just like around the town always. Like, you know, she's an influencer though.

For sure. Yeah. Like works with brands and stuff. I love her. I always thought too. She's always like a doll. I think that she's just a comedian. Yeah.

She's so funny. Oh my God. Yeah. So good. Definitely got close with her. Yeah. There's a, there's a few people.

Yeah. But for the most part, it's like, Hey, bye. Yeah. But that's kind of how I like to keep it too. Just in general. I think I try to be friends with so many people and it's just like, ugh. Yeah. It gets tiring. It, it's like, hey, bye. Yeah. But that's kind of how I like to keep it, too, just in general.

I think I try to be friends with so many people, and it's just like, ugh, I don't know. Yeah. It gets tiring. It does. Everyone's an acquaintance. I feel like you should be able to count your best friends on, like, one hand. For sure. For sure.

Like, people you can actually count on and stuff like that. Family doesn't count, but, like, best friends. Yeah. Yeah. Like, chosen family. Like, people in your circle. Yeah. Because you guys did have, like, a really big circle of friends.

We used to. Yeah. And we literally had them living with us at one point. How is it now? Are you guys did have like a really big circle of friends. We used to. Yeah. And we literally had them living with us at one point. How is it now? Are you guys just by yourselves? Uh-huh. Okay.

I love that for you because I was always like, I mean, I never could be that person to have like other, like so many other people live with us. We were just like in our 20s.

So it just was really fun. It came natural. Yeah. But we were always rolling through with like a posse. Always. At your house constantly. It was like a joke.

Like, oh, Gigi's going somewhere. Like, there's going to be five people coming with her. Like, it was like everyone knew. It was like, I'm going to order McDonald's. How many people? And you're like, house constantly. It was like a joke. Like, oh, Gigi's going somewhere. Like, there's going to be five people coming with her. Like, it was like everyone knew. It was like, I'm going to order McDonald's. How many people? And you're like, just me. I was like, what?

I know. I was like, I'm rolling solo for once. Yeah. So I was like, that will be coming later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just like, oh, my God. You literally came by yourself. I know.

How did that feel? Were you like, oh, my God, I can't. Because you guys are together most of the time when you chase. Yeah, like 24-7. OK, that's what I thought. That's how we are, too. So that's why I was kind of shocked. That's why I texted it I was like do you want

to come later he was working yeah oh we could have pushed it but otherwise I mean because usually like I don't like to go anywhere

when Trisha calls I come and honestly thank you so much for that because we just talked about you Monday we literally did and then I texted with Nat last week

so I was just like you know what let me see if Gigi and then I'm like put her up tomorrow because we pre-filmed like six episodes in advance I was like put Gigi up tomorrow. Yes. Because we pre-filmed like six episodes in advance. I was like, put Gigi up now.

Yes. So the turnaround is great just because it's like nostalgia. And just like even now, like going through memory lane, I was like, oh, I just like love it because I have no one to share memories with except you. Honestly, I feel like if we were to – I would need to Google our names together to see all the photos because I'm sure there's so many more memories we're like skipping on. It's wild.

There was one video I saw of us. We were like in the driveway of your guys' house and it's literally us pretending we're going to Vegas. That's what I was going to say. Wait, what? We're going on a road trip to Vegas. Oh my God. No, no, no.

Guys, we were sitting in the car and we just set up a camera and we're sitting in the driveway. The car is not on with the lights on and it's pitch black out. And Trisha's like, oh, we're going to Vegas. We're going to Vegas going to Vegas and I'm like oh look at the In-N-Out yeah and we're like like it was like insane for like 45 minutes like you would think that we were high but we weren't oh no like literally I was like why yeah like oh look the strip we're coming up guys and I was on nothing at that time because I remember it was right before celebrity brother I was on nothing because I was gonna do like drug tests and stuff. I don't know why we were doing that. I don't know.

I love that you were just down to do it. Yeah, I was like I was in it. Any video we did. Where does that footage lie? I need to see it. It's probably so cringe. I think it's on your channel because I was like, wait, what is this? Wait, we posted it? Oh, yeah. It's up

because I just saw it recently, like a day ago. I can't wait to watch it I deleted like two thousands of my videos like literally so many like wow yeah because people you know some of the stuff too like some of the stuff I said was just so dumb so you're just like I should just delete like everything pre-2017 you know what I mean wow but you keep everything up I kind of do yeah yeah I just was like I don't know so any videos might be too much work to go through and delete. I feel like we have so many videos. Well, I went back from the oldest. I was like, delete, delete, delete.

I don't know. I was just deleting. One by one? No, I think you can do like 20 at a time or something like that. Yeah, so there was like a time where I just deleted like 2,000 videos. Jeez, I don't even know if I have 2,000 videos. No, you definitely do. No?

I don't know. That's a lot. You are posting a lot. I used to post all the time. I used to post like twice a week. Do you miss it? Yes, but I also like don't know. That's a lot. You are posting a lot. You used to post all the time. I used to post like twice a week. Do you miss it? Um, yes. But I also like don't like push myself when I'm like not inspired to do it. Yeah. You know? That's how I feel. That's why I like doing the podcast because I was like pushing myself to do a video every day for my main channel.

You still do though, no? No. I post like once a month now on the main channel. Oh, okay. You know, it flops, but I love it because it's like I've been on there for so long. Yeah, it's like for you. Yeah. Like if you're having fun doing it, then I feel like that's all that matters even though it's so cringe and stupid to say but it's like true no it is you know and then you think about other people looking like oh my gosh she gets 10,000 views on her video but it's just like that's my channel that I've had for so long and it's also like for those people like it's cute I mean yeah you know whoever watches it yeah I mean 10,000 people's a lot of people so yeah and also there's like a brand deal attached to it it's like bitch I'm getting paid's like a brand deal attached to it, it's like, bitch, I'm getting paid. Never had a brand deal attached to it. Wait, really?

Never in like 10 years. What about Adam and Eve? Actually, recently. They came back. But yeah, it was like six years and then that's it. But that's it. Shout out Adam and Eve. They come back. They absent.

I'm surprised they don't sponsor this show. I know. I wish. Yeah, I don't know. Come at me. Did you really? You are Adam and Eve. Thank you.

You literally are. I associate you with them, of my name. Thank you. I know. You literally are. I feel like I associate you with that really. Oh, thank you. I know. I mean, I love the sponsorship. I mean, it's literally the only one I've ever had, I think, ever in my life. Well, it fits. Yeah. It's like cute. I love it. The stuff is good, you know, but I never got like crust whitening strips or anything like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your biggest brand deal? You don't have to say the money, but who was the biggest that paid? Only fans. Is it your biggest deal? Yeah. No way. Congrats. Oh my God, I'm so happy. Why am I going to cry?

That's so exciting. You got your biggest deal now in 2023. That's such a slate because it's so hard, one, to get brand deals, one, to stay relevant in 2023. There's so much going on. Other than that, though, maybe Crest? I don't know. Oh, Crest is big.

Maybe. Yeah, I remember that one was crazy. That one, like, changed my life. I'm going to subscribe to your O.F. I'm so excited. I subscribe to so many people. Do you? Yeah, but I only have to go.

I can only go on, like, once a week because I would be horny and ashamed every time I'm on there. I always look at people, and I don't know what it is. I get so, like, I don't know. Lately, I've been so horny and ashamed, I guess, which I've never. Yeah. I love it. That is the best, by the way which I've never... I love it. That is the best, by the way. I feel it. I feel it sometimes.

You think I get... Yeah, the feeling between your thighs. You know? Yes, the clenching's so insane. I remember being like 13 and I feel that recently and I'm like, this is so weird. And I feel like I shouldn't be because I'm like, you know, I'm like a mom. I'm like, why am I getting like this? Do you think it's like a pregnant thing? Maybe. Like hormones? Oh, every night I have like I shouldn't be because I'm like, you know, I'm like a mom. I'm like, why am I getting like this? I feel like I'm 17. Do you think it's like a pregnant thing?

Maybe. Like hormones? Oh, every night I have like sex dreams and now they're with him. They were with the weekend for a minute and I was like, I felt so bad. I would wake up and be like, oh my God. And it would feel so real. I was like, I cheated on Moses. Yeah. Like while I was pregnant, I was like, oh my God, I'm pregnant. Like I can't, and we would never actually get to the act, but it was like right there. And I was like, oh, and I would feel so guilty. And I would tell Moses, I was like, this is so, he's like, it's like, he's not threatened obviously because it's like not good, but it is like, but now it's, now it's about him. So I don't get the weekend thing.

I really don't. You have to watch The Idol. Yeah. That show did something to you, huh? You have to watch it. It's so good. I don't get it. Oh my God.

It's so good. Yeah. I don't either. Like normally I'd like, if I saw him, like I'd be like, whatever, but it is, and now I'm still feeling that way. I'm like, oh my gosh, It's just a horny show. Well, I feel like that changed a lot of people's perception of him. I think a lot of people were obsessed.

Oh, obsessed, good. Some people hated it, too. Yeah, I've heard a lot of people hate it, too. Oh my god, please watch. I know you'll be on your phone, but watch it. It's so good. I'll gaze up. What's your thing?

Do you watch anything to get you going? Or do you not get into it? What do you mean? Do you watch anything to get you going? Or do you not get into it? What do you mean? Do you watch OF? Anything like that? No. So it's a new platform for me. So I just literally signed up.

I subscribe to no one, obviously. But it's... Obviously. Obviously. No one. You're not curious to see? Maybe. Actually, I'm really curious.

I love seeing... I subscribe to Tana's. I subscribe to everyone. I'm like, what are they posting? I'll subscribe to you, Tana. Yeah, it's wild. It's wild to see. Yeah.

Because it is so different. Yeah. Like, even though you know Tana, yeah. But it's, like, X, though. Like, it's, like, just, like, a grid of people's posts. But, yeah, the people you subscribe to, yeah. Yeah, it's just, like, so easy. Yeah, it is really easy.

Yeah. Oh, my God, I can't wait to see. I can't wait to see what you do. Oh, my God, it's going to be amazing. It's so fun. Have you ever posted anything like that online? Like, any sort of? No. Like, I guess bikinis used to be in, but do. Oh, my God. It's going to be amazing. So fun. Have you ever posted anything like that online? Like, any sort of... No.

Like, I guess bikinis used to be in, but not, like, lingerie. Yeah. Like, see-through, nothing see-through. Yeah, no. Wow. Just, like, bikinis and stuff. Like, normal. Oh, my gosh.

Do you listen to music? I do. You're not into anyone? Not really. Just, like, whatever's on. You never have, like, obsessions or anything? Not really. You don't obsess over celebrity shows?

Do I? I feel like you would know. I really don't. Champs? Oh, yeah. What stage't obsess over celebrity shows. Do I? I feel like you would know. I really don't. State champs. Wait, what? State champs? Yeah, it's this like band that I found randomly on Spotify. It's like kind of like 2000s, like alt pop.

Oh. Yeah, it's like Blink-182. Ooh, but gnarlier. Yeah, they're called state champs, if anybody knows. Are they popular? Do you know them, Callie? No. Oh, I had no idea.

I just heard one song and I was like, oh my god, I think I'm obsessed with this. What's the song? There's one called Secrets. How's it go? I don't want to say. You sing! No, I don't sing. Yes, you have sang before. Did you do a song where you actually sang on it? I did, actually. Yes, I remember that. It was kind of good. You think?

It's probably so auto-tuned. What was it even called? It was like, do you like to party? Oh, do you like to party? Me and my sister did. Was it the... But there was one where you're, like, by the pool and there's, like, guys behind you in, like, swim trunks. Oh, that was Avril Lavigne. That was a music video. But you sang. No. Oh, you lip-sync. Yes. But you... Okay.

But you had original songs. There are songs I've heard you sing for sure before. Oh my god, no. Really? No, no, no, no, no. I think maybe you dreamt it. No, I definitely have heard you sing. You want me to be a singer. Yes. I mean, you would slay as a singer for sure. If I could sing, oh my God.

Imagine being able to open your voice and just sound like Ariana Grande. Oh my God. If I could sing, I'd be unstoppable. Me, literally me too. Oh my God. Like write me songs, I'll sing them. Oh, for sure. Yeah.

I think that's like the coolest talent you could have. It really is. Maybe our kids will. I always just pray. Maybe our kids are going to be like singers or something. I'm definitely going to put them to either like a musical instrument or a sport or both. Oh, sport. Yeah.

I'm going to be like, pick a sport. What do you like to do? I would do anything but sports. I'm like, you could do anything. I won't even acknowledge that sports exist. Why? I hate sports. I hate people who play sports.

I hate watching sports. But it's such a good like discipline. And like, isn't it cute? I kind of want to be like a soccer mom. Like I want to take my little boy to soccer practice. I've had trauma in soccer too. Someone pushed me over. Someone kicked me in the head. Like it's like trauma. And I was like five of want to be like a soccer mom. Like I want to take my little boy to soccer practice. I had a trauma in soccer too. Someone pushed me over. Someone kicked me in the head.

Like it's like trauma and I was like five and I was like never again. Kicked you in the head? Yeah. Gym class, people would pants me like running.

Like people, sports people are wild. Like anything athletic, like gym, anything, I'm just like no thank you. They're so wild. People made fun of like my camel toe and my spandex

because I played t-ball. Like people were just so mean. Like nothing, no sports. Yeah. I think it builds character. You could be right for that. I think it, like nothing like good old fashioned competition I feel.

Yeah, I guess. Honestly. Maybe it was like dancing or something. Maybe I could just put him in dance. Yeah. Athletic. It gets them moving. But nothing like football or anything. I would love if my son played football. No. You'd be a football mom. Yes. I could see that. You're like the hot football mom. You're going to be the mom though. And like all their friends are going to think they're hot. And then your son's going to be like, mom, mom, don't be so hot. That's everything though. Oh, I'm obsessed. Oh my God. Like Stacey's mom. That's like literally

you. I love that song too. Me too. That was the best song. That was like really early 2000s. Oh, I'm so excited for your mommy era. Me too. We'll give you our last era first, then the mommy era. Yes. What else do you want to accomplish? I would love to go back to what we were talking about before. I would love to act. I would love to be in something with you. Same.

Let's have a show. We could be sisters. Okay. I would love that. You know what would be awesome? Yeah. Ew, awesome. I can't believe I just used that word.

Wait, why? I don't know. I never say that word. Of all the things you said, you're like. Of all the things you said in this interview, you're like, ew, I don't believe I just used that word. Wait, why? I don't know. I never say that word. Of all the things you said, you're like. Of all the things you said in this interview, you're like, ew, I don't want to say awesome. Uh-uh. That's a cringe. Bleep it.

Yeah, cut that, please. Too embarrassing. If you were a talk show host in a show, like an American Horror Story show, and you were like a corrupt talk show host or something like that. I love that. I just like see this and I feel like it could work. I love that manifesting. We could be an American Horror Story show. Oh. And you were like a corrupt talk show host or something like that. I love that. I just like see this and I feel like it could work. I love that manifesting.

We could be an American Horror Story. I've never watched it. Oh, that I love. You have to. Is it scary? I don't like scary things. Um, no. I would watch the Kim Kardashian one

because I do like her. I don't like that one. It's not good? No. Who's your like biggest, because you're friends with Paris. Would you say she's your biggest like celebrity friendship?

You don't care about celebrities like I do. You're not like obsessed. You're like, oh, they're celebrities. I would be so. Would you say she's your biggest, like, celebrity friendship? You don't care about celebrities, though, like I do. You're not, like, obsessed. You're like, oh, they're celebrities. I would be so starstruck. Really? I wouldn't be able to talk. Like, especially Paris.

Paris should come on here. I don't think I could have a conversation with her. Like, there's certain people – Because she was so massive when I was a kid. Like, Simple Life. Yeah, same. So do you have Simple Life up there? Yes.

She was so huge. She's like a Britney Spears in my eyes. I mean, her and Britney are friends. Like, I don't think I could talk to those kind of people. Well, she's not weird, though. Like, I feel like Britney, like, sitting across from Brittany, she'd be a little weird. No, I think she would be. Like, fidgety and, like.

No, I don't think so. She, like, wouldn't look you in the eye. Like, she's, like, really fucking famous. No, I feel like now she's, like, got it together. You think? Yeah, she's free of her conservative. You think she would sit here for three hours and you wouldn't get a little picking or I need to go get a cigarette. I mean, I don't know.

She doesn't have to stay for three hours, but, you know. I don't know. All right. I think Brittany would be down. She lives close. Like, it's like five minutes here. I think she would be down, too. You have to sit in traffic, so it's, like, longer.

She's, like, down, you know. She's across the street. It was actually really quick to get here for me. Yeah, you told me you were coming, like, a half hour late and then you were, like, here. And I was like, oh, my God, there's across the street. It was actually really quick to get here for me. Yeah. You told me you were coming like a half hour late and then you were like here and I was like, oh my God, the McDonald's is here. Yeah. Um, it's actually been longer cause we actually like talked eight, like that was like an hour and a half that we did all that.

So you've actually been talking for the whole day, but I would love one day to do a 24 hour because I can keep going. The reason he turns it around is cause it gets to be like two and a half hours and he's like, okay, stop because I will go forever. No, we're like Fousey tube. We should do like a 24-hour podcast. That would be really fun if we had a screen here. Oh my God, yeah, like asking questions.

Yeah, like what's the hot topic? What happened while we were still streaming? That's what it is. It's finding out what happens in real time because then you get off and you're like, wait, what just happened? Yeah, what happened? Because you don't have your phone.

That is the scary part of it. No, that would be everything in real-life streaming. Streaming scares me, though, because going live, I feel like, is never good for anyone. They know where you're at. They, like, there's all the weird stuff. It's true. I've never done live. I mean, I've done it, but it scares me. Yeah, people also can be really mean. Like, I know that, like, we've been

doing this for so long, but, like, people on lives can be really mean. He moderates. We do live chats for these, and he moderates all of them. He's, like, on it. He deletes them so quickly. Yeah. And we don't get, we actually don't get that much thanks, but we don't really get that much hate anymore. We do live chats for these and he moderates all of them. He's like on it. He deletes them so quickly. Yeah. And we don't get, we actually don't get that much thanks, but we don't really get that much hate anymore. I used to get so much hate.

Now it's like love. Yeah, it depends. Anytime I've gone live, it's either gone really, really well or it's like shared to like a group somewhere. And then like there's like a flood of haters. Really? And it's just like, it's so awkward just sitting there knowing people know you're reading hate about you.

Right. You just get past it. It's like awkward. You're like, okay, waiting for a good one. Exactly. And then you read, you like shout out the comment that's like flooded by hate. She's clearly just avoiding that. Yeah, I know.

It's just awkward for everyone. Right. Like things you don't want to talk about. That's why I like always have a moderator, which is Moses. Like just someone constantly in there. Because I like to only have positive or. Same. Yeah.

Yeah. And then it's like, okay, bye. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you thank you no thank you that's why I think like lives I feel are just like at the edit the comments and stuff like that like just not knowing is better like we are used to the hate but just not seeing it is better yes I

100% agree I also used to be a huge blocker like on like Instagram or whatever like I'd be like nope nope nope now I'm just kind of like oh you don't block not really I love blocking still I know I should get more into it I think it's because I'm lazy yeah I even if someone's just like saying something a little snarky I'm like block yeah you don't deserve yeah I don't like any negativity yeah I forgot you did come to my first show my last show because I was thinking oh you can tell me I went on stage that's right

because I was like you always been a real friend I was talking about the wedding thing I was like did you come to the concert I was like oh no you did i did and you're my only friend to ever come yeah like literally no one else shane no one's ever come to my show i know i've heard you talk about it before and i was like i was there bitch yeah you're like none of my friends came i'm like i drove up there for you it was anaheim too it was far yeah oh my gosh it was really cute i remember coming out i had like a white dress on yes and like everyone was like ah oh it was crazy because like people i think expected people to show up, right? Like friends of mine.

And no one did. So then when they saw you, they were like, oh my god, Gigi. It was so cute. Because you are the most iconic. And that's why I love you even more, too. You are the most iconic. No. Oh my god.

You are the most iconic YouTuber. Because we were talking about this. You're not even a YouTuber. You're like A-list. I mean, Oscar had a question about it, about being a top celebrity. Did I write it down? I think I forgot to write it down. I had some of your questions.

Can I have one of those cards, by the way? You can have all of them. Yes. I'm going to put it in my office. Oh, yeah. Would you consider yourself an influencer or just a celebrity at this point? That was Oscar's question. Not influencer.

I don't know. I always got the ick from that word. Do you? I think it's the only word to call. Like, what else would I say I am? An actress. Yeah, a digital content creator. I mean, whenever I go to, like, mattress creator. I mean, whenever I go to like.

Mattress actress. I mean, true. Me too. Oh my God. I can't wait to see what you do. Yes. Yeah. Well, whenever I'd go to the airport, they'd always be like, like in my early career days when I would travel, they'd be like, so what do you do for a living?

Like we just saw you last week. And I'd be like, I'm a model actress. Oh really? You would say that? It just made me sound like a porn star or something like that. Oh right. So do it the way you look. Like model actress.

They're like, what are you in? They would say that? Yeah. Now you can say OF. You're like OF. Yeah. Well now I'm just like YouTuber, I guess, but like not full time YouTuber. I don't know.

Yeah. I feel like you could also say like you're just a socialite. Yeah. But that also seems like I don't work. Oh right. Right. You know what I mean? That is true.

You actually do work very hard and you always have. you know what I mean? I feel like that's one thing about you is you always like, I don't know. Influencer just gives me the ick though. I kind of get that. You know, I don't know why though. I don't know why. Cause it's true. Yeah. And also, but you are the influencer cause you influence so many people, like just with what you buy, what you do. What would you say you identify as? Talk show host? I mean, I don't have a talk show. I have a podcaster, I guess. Like the best podcaster in the world? Yeah, I feel

like I'm up there. You are? Yeah. Well, it's giving podcasts to talk show. Okay. That's the idea. Manifest a talk show. Like when you said manifesting sperm, I'm like, oh, I manifest a talk show. You know what I mean? But I love watching these videos. The manifesting sperm was like so iconic. And I was like, yeah, I think you can manifest anything. Yeah. And like that, I really do believe. You really can. You can manifest love. You know what I mean? But I love watching these videos. The manifesting swarm was so iconic. And I was like, yeah, I think you can manifest

anything. And that I really do believe. You really can. You can manifest love. Manifest money. Like anything. I really do think you can do it. I know people say it's crazy, but when you said you got good news and more good news came, that's all you were focused on. So don't focus on the negative or the bad. Don't see the negative. I think that's weird.

Do you manifest actually? Do you sit and think about things? Do you visualize things? Like I see myself doing this or not? Not really. No. No. I love it. This is what I love about you.

Just clear head. Yeah. And not empty. Just clear. Like your thoughts are just. But I don't like think about it like crazy or like meditate or like. No, never. Yeah.

Not really. No. I love that though. That's what I'm saying. You have it together. You have it together so completely. Spiraling inside. No. You don't spiral, do you? Not really. Never. Yeah. That's, I mean, that's. Well, though. That's what I'm saying. You have it together. You have it together so completely. Spiraling inside. No, you don't spiral, do you?

Not really, no. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's cool. Well, sometimes. The new BMO VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks. More points. More flights. More of all the things you want in a travel rewards card.

And then some. Get your ticket to more with the new BMO VI Porter MasterCard and get up to $2,400 in value in your first 13 months. Terms and conditions apply. Visit bmo.com slash VI Porter to learn more. That's amazing. And people like who spiral all the time. It's like, how are you not always? I'm spiraling in my head now. I'm like, what did we say? What do we need to edit out? Like maybe once. You're sending like good vibrations, so you're getting vibrations back. I didn't know that. Literally when people have like filmed me meditating, they'll say like the sound goes out of whack or something because the vibrations are so strong and stuff like that. But the hmm is like, you know, you're getting like all the vibrations. You need to go on White Lotus. You should sing the theme song. Isn't that how the theme song goes?

No, there's a whoo, whoo, whoo. That's the opposite of meditation. It is. You're right. I just hear sounds. that's the opposite of meditation. It is. You're right. I just hear sounds. It's like we love it. Oh, my God. We really have gone over three hours, which is actually insane.

I love it. I love your long podcasts. Oh, thanks. I love doing it too. Like I love talking and I knew with you. I was just like there's like a million more things because I'm like there's so many things to reminisce about. There really are and there's so many more too. Do you remember – this is the last one I promise.

There's so many that you remember. You might not remember, but I love when you kind of do. Do you remember there was like a guy that I was dating that I was kind of like in love with? And he was trying so hard to like hook up with both of us. What was his name? I left him voice memos. Oh, wait. Kind of. I used to do that with

like so many of my friends though. Because he was like so obsessed with hooking up with you. And I wanted him to like me so bad. So I was like, and I was hooking up with him but I'm like, no, but I need to go this level

so he keeps liking me. Do you remember? No, I mean, like so much. What was his name? Oh, yeah,

wait, weren't, wasn't it like for money? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah. And you were like, I don't know if you were actually down because you were being so flirty and stuff and I was like, I really wanted to do it but we never actually. I remember.

Yeah. Okay, okay. I'm surprised we didn't. I think it was, I think you were just like. You were like in love with him. I was not. I would have done it in a heartbeat because I was so in love with him. And I was like, that's what he really wanted. And I was like really trying. But I think you were just like. I wasn't really down. Yeah. You're like 21. You're like, I'm just hot. I do not need this. Because he was really old and disgusting. I was just like, but you were so cute because you were like flirt on the voicemail.

I was like, hey, yeah. And I was like. Oh my God. I need to be so excited. And then I'm like, but you were so cute because you were like flirting on the voicemail. I was like, hey, yeah. And I was like, I need to be so excited. And then I'm like, it didn't work out. She's not actually going to come. I know. And he's like, is this ever going to happen? I'm like, yeah. I promise. Yeah.

I was like, maybe next time she's just busy. Stringing him along. She's just busy. She's just busy. Oh my God, that's fucking hilarious. I have so many like memories, like little ones like that, that sometimes like still haunt me. And I'm just like, oh my God, I's fucking hilarious. I have so many memories, little ones like that, that sometimes still haunt me. And I'm just like, oh my god, I was so cringe. I feel like that is so cringe.

That's so cringe. I feel like I remember being in your car doing that. Yes, it was. You left another one. I think we were going to Capital Girls because we were dressed up. Probably. And I think it was totally that. Wait, that's hilarious.

But you were such a good friend because you were like, yeah, let me send this. I think we might have done a video even. I feel like it was totally that. Wait, that's hilarious. But you were such a good friend because you were like, yeah, let me send this. I think we might have done a video even. I feel like it was totally that. You were such a good friend. I'm like, thank you so much. But it never happened. He probably still was like, damn, I was like so close to it. I wonder if he's alive. He texted me

like a month ago and I haven't heard from him in like 10 years. What did he say? Hi. What? And it was definitely him. years. What did he say? Hi. What? And it was definitely him. Yes. But anyway, I texted to my sister. I texted to Moses

because I'm like, this person I was like in love with for three years. We like didn't, he like strung me along. It wasn't like dating but I was like in love with and like we had a really bad

falling out and then that's why I was like, I heard from him. I was like, he's just like, hi. I was like, that's so weird.

I didn't reply. I wonder if he's okay. I was like, what should I reply to him? Nothing. Yeah, nothing. I literally was gonna be like, who is this? It's hi, how are you?

Okay. I didn't want to. It was just wild. Like, it was wild. I wonder, was it like during the night? Like, what time was it? Was he like fucked up? Yeah, it was like, no, it was like 3 p.m.

Huh. It was really weird. I'm like, is it an accident? Like, do you accidentally text someone? I don't know. And it's like. He probably saw a video of you. He probably watches this show.

He wants to come on. Imagine. Let's get your take. I would. We tag team him. With a microphone. With a microphone. Just the microphone. He texts me right after this. He's like, actually. Literally, though. He probably watches you. Hey, it's Gigi.

Remember that video 12 years ago ago I miss you I think about you often I would gag You would be so excited That's what we say I'm back now to the high Uh huh hey Okay oh my god that gives me anxiety

See that's me spiraling now Yeah that's a little spiral for sure You'd be crazy not to spiral over that. I totally forgot about that. Yeah, I love that you remember these things. So that's the important things to remember. Yeah, exactly. Clear head, but filled with Trish.

Just Trish and just Gigi. Just Trish. That's what you said in the car. I was like, no one's coming. You're like, just Gigi. Just Gigi. I didn't know if you would get it. I was like, she's like, did she speak in third person now? I was like embarrassed when I said it. I was like, she got it. did she speak in third person now? I was like embarrassed when I said it.

I was like, she got it. And I loved it. It was so cute. Gigi. I was like, almost like the podcast. You didn't text me.

No, I was like, okay, she got it. I'm glad you were in a car service. Cause I think we're texting. It's like, Oh my God,

are you texting and chiming? But you were, you were in a bougie car service. Cause your husband was coming to pick you up, which I thought was so cute. You're like, he said he's coming to pick me up. I'm like,

Gigi, you are the real life Barbie. You are gorgeous. You're like, he said he's coming to pick me up. I'm like, ah, Gigi, you are the real life Barbie. You are gorgeous. I love you. You're a getty. And you're wonderful. I love you. And I'm so happy.

I love you too, you guys. Check out Gigi everywhere on OF. Yes. And check out her IVF on her YouTube channel. Now you better work. You work. RuPaul on Talk Today. Bye, guys.

We'll see you in the next one. Oh! Yay. You got applause. Yes.