Just Trish - Influencer Drama At the Hannah Montana Premiere + Trisha Gets Cast on MORMON WIVES? | Just Trish
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Miley go on a tangent calling Alex Cooper creepy.
I did.
I did. Everyone's like, she's jokingly saying this.
I'm like, this one's a little real.
And then he went on to like give Miley a big shout out.
So I was like, well, why did Emily say that?
But maybe I'm just being a little too much.
Bryce, that's the only reason.
I went specifically, God, I was big too.
It was like a bear gathering.
It was all fat people.
What's happening here on this set?
Okay.
What's happening on the set?
All right, here we are.
Welcome back to the Just Trish.
Isn't the unofficial Mormon's Wives after podcast?
I think we're becoming that.
Sorry, guys.
We'll have timestamps if you're trying to skip past.
We won't do 90 minutes of Mormon Wives Day,
but Swig overnighted us.
They knew it was urgent.
They overnighted us cups.
Swag.
I was like, Swag from Swig.
It was amazing.
I DM them on, welcome to the Juster's podcast, by the way.
The highly awarded.
The highly, there's awards.
Galore.
Everywhere.
which I just noticed.
I was like, this is a little crazy.
You know what?
I love it.
We're manifesting tonight is the I-Heart Radio Awards.
I don't know.
I could be a future trophy winner here.
I'm so excited to go to an award show.
I've been to one?
You've been to one.
Have I?
The streamies.
Okay.
Fake.
Was there even performers at the streamies?
It's just like those people who shoot dude perfect,
shooting basketball.
Like there's no performance.
It's just messy.
It's not real.
Is it?
No, there was no host.
Is there a host?
I think there was a host,
but I can't remember.
You know what?
I think maybe it was tri-guise in 2018.
Yes, that sounds right.
That sounds right.
I feel like tri-guise.
I remember, who are these people?
Even back then.
I didn't know anybody.
That doesn't count.
It's not ludicrous.
It's not TLC, Miley, Taylor Swift, Tresh.
True.
This is going to be legendary.
It's going to be legendary.
And I hope I, I hope the award gets televised, and I hope I win.
I'm really manifesting hard.
I have things lined up for after I win.
So I hope I win.
If not, it's an honor to be nominated.
and that's it.
But I love all this.
I guess I did win,
I guess I did win
like an Enwale Lifetime Achievement Award,
but it didn't really win.
No one was us.
It actually says for online excellence
and peak insanity.
So I guess no one else
nominated I won,
which is great.
We are talking about Alex Cooper
and Enwell today.
So thank you for this word.
The other ones were given to me.
This was from Moses.
Is this from you?
Are they all given to you?
That one was when we first like,
well,
Queen of TikTok.
But I remember Rylans,
did he say it and you had the trophy?
No, he just said the queen,
of like you just said it when you were in their podcast but I made that award regardless I
think you reached four million oh you added woke to it yeah I think oh oh well queen of
TikTok that's a big honor that's a big honor okay yeah I do feel Ryland also
verbally gave me that award at some point on the sit just presented you like that you know I
like it and this one was given to us by Spotify which I thought was cool it says the
eternal optimist war I think they gave out all these to everybody and it was the same category yeah
one thing there was like four categories
Oh, I see.
But I think a lot of people got Eternal Optimus.
I thought it was like a special one for us.
And I was like, okay, I love that.
So I guess we won a couple of awards, you know.
None that I've been nominated for.
They're all just kind of given to me.
So this is exciting tonight.
It is a big one.
Tune in.
Fox.
I don't know.
Why you find at Hulu or something?
Philo?
I don't know.
Where do you watch live TV?
That is an excellent question.
And a tough one to answer, I guess.
Like, you've got a sling, a sling box.
A live stream somewhere.
I have no idea.
TikTok will just show you the highlights if you want to see.
We're very excited about it.
I have a link treat.
Not sponsored by Link Tree.
Do you have a link tree?
I do, yeah.
Do you have it in your bio?
I do.
Okay, it is kind of everything because I would always change the link out like every week.
I'm like, oh, hey, I have a Palm Spring show.
And then I have like, you know, Netflix's joke.
And then I have all these pre-order books.
Oh, by the way, pre-order my book crying on the kitchen floor.
Most like, I think you already sold $40,000.
Or was it 40,000 or 4,000?
No, I predicted the first day would be 45,000.
There's no way.
I do not sell that much of anything, but most like you.
You do.
Like when she had shows, really?
When you had shows, they would sell out.
Shows are different.
This is different because I feel like it's a $30 to get something.
And you can live anywhere.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
So it's like the entire nation plus the UK, definitely.
And when the cover comes out, I predict 10 to 20,000.
My mom thought this was the cover.
She would love the cover and pink.
That's not my cover.
I love the title, crying on the kitchen floor, final cover to come.
That's the false title.
Maybe a fanci if might delete.
There it is. Yeah, it's actually funny how many people, like, people love the title, but it is funny, like on Twitter, like, oh, what is this Alana Del Rey song?
Like, people don't get the reference.
And I was like, oh, some people don't.
I guess you haven't cried on the kitchen floor in so long.
We're losing the ancient text.
Yeah, I want to say it's been like seven years since I loved in that.
Yeah, it is a relic, the kitchen floor, but you guys, it is a relic.
available. Jimmy Wetzel, pre-ordered. He sent me his pre-order receipt. Yeah. Oh, I should post
mine. I need to post my receipts. You did? Of course I pre-ordered it. My mom, I think,
pre-ordered it too. She was very excited. My mom was like, what is Trisha selling? A book?
And I was like, yeah, she's like, okay, I'm going to order it. And also, random aside,
Moses seems like a really nice guy. That was her follow-up.
Is she watch? Is she watching? I think she just like keeps up on Instagram.
Okay. That's so, shout out Oscar's mom. We love that. Well, thank you.
everybody who pre-ordered.
I think about like a $50 for a signed
headshot here.
You're going to get the full book with a beautiful cover.
The cover is.
It's like, can't we.
$30 is amazing.
Have you not seen the cover?
No, but I kind of want to be gagged with everyone
because you know I love like a reaction.
Okay, I was like, I could show you too.
But okay, I think I've only shown Tanna.
And she was like, oh, I think the cover is so good
and not like any other book.
And it's pretty and it's pink.
And I feel like it's just like art that you can like put in your thing.
Rosie O'Donnell commented publicly on my Instagram.
I was like ordering now.
I was like.
Oh, that's huge.
That's huge.
I'm a big, big, rosy fan.
I was so excited.
So that's what I'm saying.
Very excited.
It was exciting.
I'm glad people liked it.
And title was diabolical of the podcast.
It was like, Tricia Pateus exposes everyone.
I was like, we're in our PCRA?
We got to show those books, honey.
Okay, I read PR.
I didn't get no PR degree for nothing.
Okay.
You know what I give you.
At first I was like, and then I was like, no, it's fine, whatever.
That was one of the titles you can see there.
See?
Exp.
Supposing everyone.
That was, yes.
There's so many titles I could go through that we considered.
But yeah, that's a good one.
I'm actually exposing everybody.
Be scared.
I was going somewhere with that before I said it.
Did I say, was that a boy somewhere?
Somewhere else?
Oh, Link Tree.
Not sponsored.
But one time they gave us a free billboard, remember, in Times Square?
Linktree did that?
Yes.
Because I'm linktree.com slash Trishapetus underscore.
But then I went to linktree.com slash Trishapetus.
And it's my Aeros of Trish, like, tour dates.
And it's like all beautiful.
They made it all fancy with a fancy backdrop.
And that was what was in Times Square.
It was the Link Tree billboard.
And I wasn't sponsored, but they're like,
if you make a link tree, they'll give you a billboard.
I was like, all right.
So I used it for the errors of church back then.
But I just made one on my own because there was so many links.
And it is very handy.
I wish you were sponsored because it is really cool.
It can put a ton of links there.
I know.
I put my like PR mail address, which is just my work address.
So, no one can bomb my house.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Jesus.
So dark.
Okay.
And my three links.
It's fierce.
What's yours?
Just Oscar Gracie?
Yeah, I think so.
It's like an Amazon wish list.
Like, go to your link tree and see where you can.
It's cool.
It's cool because you can just have that one link and everyone can go.
Do you think people click on link trees?
Because at first, when I would see it in a episode in's bio, I would never click on it.
Because it sounds like business.
It sounds like LinkedIn or something.
I think people do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And randomly I'll get mail sometimes.
I don't even really promote it.
So people click it and then see the like mail address.
So yeah.
Okay.
Because yeah, there was a lot.
There was like a UK pre-order.
There's a Barnes & Noble pre-order.
There's a Hatchet group pre-order.
There's like so many pre-orders.
So I guess instead of saying link in bio, say link tree and bio, we should.
Because there were crazy links because I had Moses put the UK one because it came after.
I was like, he put in the UK.
He's like, there's like 50 links in your description.
It was like, donate here, there, watch this.
Yeah, it's like there is a lot.
So I mean, one can be my link tree and then you guys can just go to all of it.
I should put more.
He's like, you should put your store in there and Patreon.
I was like, oh my God, there's 5,000 links.
Yeah, it's a lot of links.
But anyways, check out that.
I guess that's all I was going with the link tree.
And then Patreon.com slash just Trish, we are going to be making it dirty sauce.
I got some stuff too.
I got really excited.
Do you bring stuff?
Yeah.
I brought, okay, so I got like a Mountain Dew Baja blast because I thought it would be a pretty color, like teal.
I got Pearce Hilton International Delight creamers that are like she has paid, sweet and spicy.
I did.
I was like, okay, I want to also get in on this.
Oh, I'm so excited.
We have the pumps.
We have the Tarani pumps, like the green apple and the vanilla.
Oh, this is going to be fierce.
Yeah, I'm very excited as well.
I was like, ooh, I don't even, I got some Dr. Pepper.
What do you think you're going to make?
I think Dr.
pepper will be my base as well. And then I keep seeing TikToks of like, I'm Jesse Draper's assistant.
I feel like people just make up that there because I've been seeing so many assistants.
I'm like, y'all all can't be assistants at the moment wise. So they kind of, maybe.
You were like with Strawberry 17. Oh, that's true. You did have. We did have like eight.
So when I was doing my just my proofread rewrite service, it was just like specific details
publisher to ask and be like, oh, do you know specifically like what videos you and she were watching?
I'm like actually, yeah, strawberry 17. Oscar Gracie, market there. I just want you like in every
moment of life that happened.
I'm like, she had 27.
Because, like, what's Strawberry 17?
I'm like, oh, my God.
She had, like, 17 interns.
Like, I love explaining it to everyone who doesn't know.
And I think it might make the book, actually.
Because I think it's an important detail to know we were watching strawberry.
Yes.
I keep saying TikTok's like, I'm so much as assistant.
And this is her Swig, a dirty soda recipe or whatever.
So what they put in it?
I know coconut or like lime.
Yeah.
A coconut cream, a vanilla bean cream, different pumps of this and that.
that, so I just got all of it and I'm excited.
I'm really all in.
Oh my God, I cannot wait to make them.
Are we going to make multiple or are we going to react to something or what are we?
I also.
Or just fun.
I wanted an excuse just to do the swigs, but then my original idea was to copy Tanna,
of course, the pink print.
Oh, yeah, always.
She did an influencer guessing game, like headbands where you put like an influencer on your head.
Oh, I did see.
Yeah.
Yes, that's a good one.
I bought that for us to do too.
So I guess we can combine.
Fine.
A little mixology.
That's fun.
I'm really excited for it.
Did you see, that's Patreon.
That's Patreon.
I don't know if I said that.
Or go to the link tree.
Go to the link tree.
Patreon's not on there yet.
I got to put it on the link tree.
I know.
I should.
I should.
I should put it on there.
Where do we even go?
Where do we go first?
We go Mormon wives.
We go Hannah Montana.
I feel like there's so much for real this time.
I feel like there's so much happening in the influencer space.
I know.
I kind of want to start Hannah Montana premiere.
I was also to give a little reprieve from all the Mormon wives news.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did get a little bit of FOMO from the Hannah Montana.
the premiere. I was like, wait, this is kind of everything.
I was the opposite. I was like
it did look like a gas loved it, but I was like,
I'd have been intimidated. Everyone kind of showed out with their office. You know me.
I would have just showed up in like a t-shirt or something like that. They really
showed out. This was like the Met Gallo.
It was night of a hundred Hannah. Yes. It was
giving that. Yeah. The girl showed up and showed out.
Oh my God. Everybody. I was like, wait, they all kind of gagged me.
I loved it. I loved it. I loved this carpet.
I loved my like. Again, I'm not really seen Hannah Montana. I don't know like about it.
But I'm gagged by everyone involved. I love everybody.
Jason Earl.
I love Quint.
I love everybody.
Hannah looked good.
Miley.
I realize especially for like influencers,
they must really feel the Hannah fantasy.
Because like I loved Hannah Montana,
but I can really relate to like the wanting,
I don't know.
They became famous young, you know?
Yeah.
This like era of influencers,
like between Tara and Tanna and like this whole group.
Michaela.
So they really are living the Hannah Montana fantasy.
So I think for them it was like especially emotional because they're,
everyone's posts about it
where like I don't even care
if I come across cringe
like this means so much to me I'm gonna be so
earnest like this show raised me I wouldn't be
I wouldn't be an influencer without Hannah Montana
that's so wild I know I told
last time we talked about that I'm like people are really
like emotional about her yeah for me
like I loved that show and I loved the music
and I saw Miley and Hannah live like so many times growing up
so like I just loved it as like
entertainment but it's crazy
the connections some people have like I really
did influence people to be
an influencer, yeah, like that's what I
want to do. Yeah, and it's crazy like, Joe
Ceewall was like, yeah, like all my childhood
music was like literally her copying Hannah Montana
which is so funny. That's cute.
So it is crazy seeing like, you know, how this
show influenced so many people and impacted
so many people's lives. I'm surprised. By the way,
Oscar could have gone because E.T. went and he's like, no, I'm going to
gone. Because someone did be like, you should have gone.
I was like, and then afterwards like, oh, I don't really care
that much. And I was like, okay, I didn't know.
It's just like hard for me to do events because it is just like a lot of
effort. And then those outfits.
Yes. And everyone was serving.
Everyone was serving.
They all got stylists for this. It's very
overstimulating for sure.
So yeah.
That's funny. I was thinking about that too. But like I literally
could have asked.
I thought you were a super state. I really thought you
were emotional with everyone. No, I was watching
it the special itself. I watched
the special itself and like cried like five times
because it was such a pivotal
childhood like core memory like in such an influence on
the most pivotal years of my life.
Like I loved Hannah Montana so much.
Literally, again, I saw her live
before the show even premiered.
Like, I was seated before I even knew
what the show was. Like, I was ready for it.
Wow. And then once, like, I remember the day's album,
all the albums came out. Like, the first album
came out in October. And it was like the same day as
the first Hannah Montana album.
Would you say, you said something out, days?
I remember the date. Like, it was like October.
Oh, the days. Okay.
Like, the day the albums came out.
Like, I was seated.
instantly October
I think October 23rd
2006 it was Taylor Swift's debut album
and Hannah Montana's debut album
and you just can't compete with that
So who were you first for?
I was first for Hannah. I didn't get into
Taylor until like
the end of like maybe December
2006 but Hannah was
like March. I won't tell Taylor tonight when I see her
I'll make no you were the first
oh that killed I also in the special
like I live for Miley because
she talks like an F slur
She talks like I can tell she has so many gay friends.
She kind of gives me like twink in a redhead.
Like she has her own grants like somewhere.
Yes.
Because she is like such a key and so shady and like but like cute about it.
I wanna go to them.
Are they coming to LA?
I need to see you to see twink and redhead.
They are so funny.
They are so funny.
They can't.
Oh, whoever was there.
And Grant's like,
Yeah.
It's so shady.
I love them.
I love both of them.
But they play the characters while.
I have to go see them.
But I know Miley has her own company.
Like she's the, I guess, it's like a twink and a blonde wig.
Yes.
I thought you had said Dave Days.
I thought you said days, like as in Dave Days.
Do you remember his videos about her?
Yes.
Was he there?
I don't think he was there, but he was posting on Twitter about making a comeback just because
of the Hannah Montana 20 is special.
Sometimes I kind of hate that when some of my things they're like connected that much
to it.
Like I like, I love Dave Days back then, but like, why weren't you there?
You know what I mean?
Like, because I saw him make something too and I was like, oh, this is my comeback.
And I was like, I don't know.
But it was kind of gaggy that she was in his videos, especially back then.
He's like 2007 YouTube.
And so for Miley to like appear at the height,
because she did the seven things video around that time
and he would do like parodies.
And you know what?
He did the cardboard cut out first.
Yeah, that's true.
The Miley cardboard cut out.
And then at the end, she appears.
So he kind of manifests that.
I guess I was trying to copy those Dave Day Nachos,
hoping Rad Pitt would appear.
I forgot about that.
But yeah, people are so funny when it's like so long.
It's literally been 20 years.
And he's like, people are ready for my comeback.
I'm like, I don't think Hannah Montana really is associating with you necessarily.
But good for him.
Yeah.
He didn't make it to the premiere.
Although everyone made it to the premiere, so I don't know how he didn't.
I know.
Where was his invite?
Although, who didn't make it kind of gagged me?
Emily Osment.
I was expecting her to show up.
She ended up posting the same day on Instagram that she was filming her Big Bang Theory
Spinoff, Georgie and Mandy.
Which you love from Young Sheldon spin off, right?
Yes.
It's in the Big Bang Theory universe, I suppose.
I haven't watched Georgie and Mandy.
I've only watched Young Sheldon, to clarify.
But I was kind of...
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe I'm just during the plot.
But her message on Instagram was,
Hannah Montana changed my life.
It gave me lifelong respect for this medium of comedy.
It taught me discipline, patience, timing, and respect,
working in an adult space so young.
And then she gave a shout out to all the fans.
She said even her co-star in The Georgie Mandy Show, Montana.
Love Hannah Montana growing up.
His name is Montana.
How is he?
Maybe he was named after her.
It was 20 years ago.
Actually.
Is he young?
He's old.
No.
Oh, I thought the whole scandal was he was like 17 and she's like 24 or something.
In the show.
In real life he's 23.
So close.
Close.
Oh my God.
That would have been crazy if he was named after Hannah Montana.
He said he loved it.
But she didn't give Miley a shout out.
I was like, well, at least give Miley a little something.
You think of shame?
I don't know.
Maybe she just doesn't have like a relationship.
Maybe not in a shady way, but she just doesn't have like a friendship with Miley.
Still, I don't know.
But when Mitchell Mousso posted his shout out to this.
the 20th anniversary. He also wasn't there.
But he said, Hannah Montana
wrapped around my heart
and never really let go. We grew up with y'all
long days, crazy schedules, learning
lines, cracking up in between takes. And then he
went on to like give Miley a big shout
out and to thank her for being like his
co-star. So I was like, well,
why did Emily say that? But maybe I'm just being a little too much.
Brian, that's my reason.
Because why else? Like that's
the, duh, yeah. And like
show up. It's the 20th anniversary.
special. Yes, I agree.
I know we're thrown together like a little
last minute, but this is big.
As I saw the comments say, you could have
given that, you know, advanced
notice, you know, because this had been going on
for a couple months. They said this planning of this event.
So they said she could have had a couple months to say, could I have this
day off? At least two months of planning, I would think.
Yeah, so I think she's not much... I just, you know,
don't really care, but like, it does piss me off when people don't go to
reunions because it's like, this is your thing that people know you from,
and this is why you have George and Mandy, you know what I mean?
Like, it's a, like, go to it.
Like I don't like especially nostalgia if Hannah
If my thing you just confusing him
If Miley can put on that blonde wig
I'm like you can do it too
That wasn't even a wig that was she dyed her hair and got bangs
To be Hannah
The commitment
I know she went all in
She went all in for the 20th anniversary special
She looked amazing
She's like her mom her
Her mom looks like her or they look together
Yeah they look similar
Go figure I guess
Was he there was Tish Tish
Tish was seated don't you worry about that
Yeah and and Billy Ray
They were both there
Billy Ray was in the special but he was not at the
I know.
You think there's a restraining order?
Why do you show up?
He would have been there.
He posted that he was in Nashville
recording his new album.
Billy Ray.
We know you can take a tie out from that.
But I don't know if Tish and Billy, yeah.
I feel like he did make a little cameo
in the hour long special.
Yes.
But maybe Tish.
People loved it.
They said it would healed them.
Yeah, it was nice to see them like back together.
Robbie Ray.
And she,
Miley also has like a new song coming out
called Younger You
and it's like,
it's like basically a song dedicated to like her time
as Hannah Montana like reflecting on that
and she even talked about that.
She's like, um,
she gave him a little shout out like
just call your dad even if you don't have
the best relationship with them.
Oh, that's made me cry.
I know.
That's so sad.
It's really sweet.
It's hard.
You know, because the older you get the real,
like the more you realize like your parents
are so f*** up to.
You know what I mean?
I feel like,
parents kind of f*** up sometimes the relationship with their kids.
You know what I mean?
Like I feel like as a kid you don't know,
but then you grow up and you're like,
oh, they kind of up.
And like it's,
you see it all the time.
And it's,
I don't,
I don't really know the whole situation.
But what I see from like the outside is like,
you know,
her dad's a little,
maybe a little,
I mean,
everyone's parents are,
whoever,
maybe her mom, you know,
but,
because she kind of goes back and forth,
right?
She's like,
sometimes on her dad's side,
sometimes on her mom side.
She's been pretty steady with her mom,
but I think she at least tries to,
acknowledge that, you know, her dad is still her dad from, it's kind of what I gathered, you know,
like she still is, like, thankful that she has her dad around.
Yeah.
I think it's hard.
Yeah, I support people go, like, no contract.
Obviously, they can't with her parents and stuff like that.
But, yeah, I was like that too.
My dad and I was had, like, a bad relationship and we, like, worked on it.
And then, like, once I got married and had kids, he's been, like, amazing.
So, yeah, if you can salvage it, try, especially the older you get.
I think the more you understand, like, everyone's a little thing and they're trying their best.
and nobody's perfect.
Very good.
And you just gotta work it, honey.
Oh, is that the second?
Again and again so you get it right.
That's right.
I love that one.
That's a good song.
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I just remember I always tell this story.
I just remember working at neighborhoods at Hollywood and Highland,
a custom t-shirt place and Miley Cyrus comes in with her sister and her mom
and the workers immediately just put on like, nobody's perfect.
So that's why I know it.
That's so funny.
And then she's like, oh my god, it's like myself.
And it must have been, like, right when she started,
because I was, like, 19 working there.
So, I mean, it probably was right when the show started.
Was it 2006?
Yeah.
That's exactly when.
I remember people were like, oh, my gosh, Manda.
And this is, like, you know, my 18 era where I have no TV, no money,
so I have, like, no idea what's going on.
But I remember that song because they would play it and repeat then when she left.
It was all the handwontana.
It was like the original.
Maybe wasn't nobody's perfect.
Maybe was another one.
I don't know.
Whatever songs were out.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Was that 2007.
It was 2007 because I was 19, 18, 18, and it was 2006.
So, like, 2007.
No, maybe all those.
2007 was the second album, which has nobody's perfect.
Maybe that was no.
Like, to me, that's like, I just remember that as soon as it is this.
I don't know.
But she was nice.
She was young.
I remember being like, oh, my gosh, she's like little.
But people were gagged by her being in there.
I remember they were like, oh, my God, it's Santa Montana.
I was like, oh.
I mean, when that show premiered, it was like in the middle of, like, the high school
musical craze.
And like, I think she was doing press already with the high school musical cast.
And then the same day, Cal Bell was starting.
Allie and AJ.
Love that.
Yeah.
So they really went all in on Hannah right away.
And it was like an instant hit.
So I'm not surprised.
Yeah.
She said she,
that's what I thought was interesting.
She said she would like hang out with like Zach and Vanessa.
Yeah.
I was like,
weren't they like 18, 19?
She's like little.
Like 12, yeah.
She said she had a crush on Zach.
Someone asked her Disney.
Was that on the Alice Cooper special?
Yeah.
Well,
she said she didn't have a crush on Zach Ephron at first.
It came later like when he got hunkier is what she said.
Her original boyfriend on the Disney Channel was
Dylan Sprouse.
Tea.
That's tea.
Did you know?
Well, Dylan, I talked about it.
Oh, like, during this with Isaac and Cody days.
Oh.
He kind of said, he was like, yeah, I dated Miley Cyrus for a day, but then she saw Nick Jonas
and left me.
That's typical, I suppose, at that age.
I never had boyfriends at that age, so I don't know.
But I...
It's so funny.
Well, back then was, like, so teeny and Miley was, like, bigger than him.
And she just looks older.
They always were...
Selena, too, adjusted.
Yeah.
Because I remember seeing them together.
I'm like, they look like five years older, but women mature faster than men, they say.
Yeah.
And she said in the special, gosh, she was such a key.
She's like, it was perfect.
Their dad would take me to go get sushi, and then I'd be like, bring the brother.
That's so funny.
That is kind of everything, though.
Could you imagine seeing Miley and the spouse twins out for sushi?
I also love that they were eating sushi at like 13.
They're going to go, yeah.
Wow.
I was kind of gagged by that.
How do you date at that age?
I never dated ever.
It sounded very like high school dating.
Like, you know, your parents just take you to go.
eat food, you know, and like go to a movie, I guess.
I don't know if I would drive Malibu and a boy somewhere.
I think I'd be like, no.
I guess it's better than unsupervised.
Well, she'll be homeschooled and under my vision all that.
But that's so weird.
Yeah, do you stop it?
I don't know.
I would watch.
If I took him to sushi, I guess I'd have to, like, sit there too.
Me and Moses will be like right next door eating sushi.
I think that's what they made it sound like.
Because they're like, yeah, Dylan and Cole's dad would just take her, take her with him.
I see.
Yeah.
And then she saw Nick.
And then it all changed.
And that's what everyone else kept pointing out to.
The Jonas Brothers, like, love nostalgia.
They love promoting the Jonas show.
They love promoting Camp Raw.
Oh, yeah.
They love Year 3,000.
Like, they love all the anniversaries
for all, like, the childhood stuff.
I love that.
Notably absent from the Hannah Montana 20th special.
Damn.
Jonas Brothers?
Were they on Hannah Montana?
Yes.
They toured with Hannah Montana.
They opened for Hannah Montana.
Probably because she wrote seven things about him.
And so he's like...
And she did give Nick Jonas a little shout out,
which is funny.
What she said?
She was talking to chat.
And she was like honestly it was kind of fun for me like I would just try to make it as fun as possible like I was dating Nick Jonas so I said fine I'll go on tour but the Jonas brothers have to open for me so I can be with my boyfriend all the time and she's like shout out Nick first name basis.
Oh I love that.
Okay so then they're probably cool.
I guess so yeah.
After so much time.
I would think so yeah but I think maybe they're a little afraid of Miley because she's so does not give up.
Yeah.
Like she does not care and she'll kind of say.
whatever. No, I do love her for that. Like, I like,
Miley as like a person and I'm like, she always seems just like,
yeah, I guess it's just the things I've seen of her, like on the carpet and
just see what she like shubs like Chris, what Liam, which one was she with?
Liam. Yeah.
Which like shubs him out of the way and like it's pissed off at him and just like
go away. Like I like so herself. I do love that. Yeah. And I think that's,
yeah, I like her. I like her vibe. Um, I like the little one, the little boy on
the show that was a good.
Iss Arias RICO? RICO. Uh, not Rico the brother.
Jason Earl? Yes. Did you see him on the red?
carpet. Of course. Disney Plus, whoever was hosting the Disney Plus little microphone thing where they were rapping. Did you see it? No, I didn't see it.
Oh my gosh. I think you need to pull it up right now. It's some rap I'm assuming from the show and he still remembers that he's duetting with the guy. And I'm just like, because I'm sure it's from the show and I'm sure this man is probably like, I don't remember this. I don't know it. But then he like totally gave it as all. Please watch it right now. I was watching it in the car. And I was just like, this is my favorite thing I ever seen.
I'm the man who had the cheese. I'm the man who had the jerky. We pull them both together. And two.
really work it cheese turkey say what say what cheese turkey say what
mozzarella moose with sand maguta turkey just one taste it'll drive you butzaki
cheese turkey say what say what cheese turkey say what and it's all thicket
thicket thick and fresh sislin Stewart smoking hooker enterprise patent pending yeah wow
he remembers it perfect yes oh my god how cute and he gave it is all and the host
was like looking at his notes you know to make sure that what's his name Carter
Another one.
Oh, Jason Arles?
Yes.
He was giving us.
I looked up his age.
He's like 53.
I was going to say, you're saying little boy.
He was 28 when he got cast and that was 20 years ago.
So is he 50?
He must be in his 50s, yeah.
He looks, how does he look?
Oh, he's 48.
He's 48.
48?
He looks like he's to, well.
Okay.
He keeps saying little boy.
I'm like, wait.
I know.
Wait, does, why is he?
Okay.
I don't know.
48 is not that old.
But he looks like.
He's 12. You know what he's? Okay. Right. You are the same age, which is insane. Oh my God.
The fact that he remembers all that from 20 years ago, do you think he just does it?
And the fact that he does it, you know, some people are like, like they don't want to do.
Like, you know, like, I remember somebody asked Austin Butler to sing likes and especially mine.
It's like, you sing it. You know what I mean? Because it's like a weird thing to ask.
The fact that he did it, remembered it. And also gave his energy to it. He didn't phone it in. Like he really.
I love him. I officially love him. I know then I looked him up. What's named Jason? Jason Earles. Yeah.
I loved him up and I was like, I love this. I love this.
when people, yeah, are just like nostalgic and lean into it and just go for it.
It was cute.
How do you know Carter?
Who's Carter?
He's a TikToker.
I love that.
It's all just TikTokers at events.
I love it.
Influencers taken over.
No one's coming for his questions, though, so I guess he talks about.
He got a viral.
We have to shout out for Rye.
Oh, yes, for Rai.
Who was a journalist and then a TikToker?
Yeah, he worked at E.T.
He worked at E.T. with me.
Then he went to people, and now he's a TikToker.
He should be at Vanity Fair.
You're so right.
Because it's so crazy.
We were talking and I was like,
I don't even know how come brought up?
You said something about Frye and I was like, oh, that's what it was.
The name because I was like, I always see his TikToks.
I'm like, I'm going to remember his name because I always want to give him shot.
I always reference his TikToks.
I'm always like, oh my God, he's so funny.
Like the way he explains things.
He's like, y'all are really mad.
Like he always is so funny.
And he's always like laying down casual, whatever.
And I was like, and I always remember the name.
And I was like, how do you know Farie?
Because he said it was like, oofy's like,
shout up Frye.
if you ever gonna come on Hot Topics?
Oh, he would love. He's a key. He's messy,
but he's a key. That's what I love because, you know
what it is? And this is, it's such a talent
is when you can be messy and just like likeable.
You know what I mean? He has the charisma of care.
He could say anything. Yeah, he is shady
boots and controversial boots, but he gets
away with it. I love it. He'd be like,
she's a fat pig, but she'd be so cute. And you know what?
Work, because, like, we love bacon. You know,
like, he's like, that's, I love him so much.
And then when he said he was, like,
a journalist before. And then I was like, oh, my God,
we love. So I love these TikTokers do
doing things basically, although he was doing things before TikTok.
I always think that's interesting when you have like a mainstream job.
I guess that's you.
You became a influencer.
You were Access, ET.
I mean, you're still there.
But it is interesting because it's the way to go.
You know, it's the way to go.
Yeah.
Sometimes you got to be your own news outlet.
Yes.
I love it.
I love that guy too.
That Carter, he's funny.
He's a boy.
He's young.
Yes, I think he is.
Okay.
It's hard to tell because when they're in next year they look at the same age.
Oh my God.
That guy is.
The 58 is crazy.
48 is great. Wait, and so how old was he
who was 28 when he got casted?
Yeah, he lied about his age and said he was like a teenager, I think.
I don't know how I feel about that. I guess it's okay.
I love him, but kind of weird.
Well, I think when you get hired and you have to show you're, you know,
eligible to work.
He looks y'all.
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He looks young.
The clips I've seen him on the show I don't like, but I like him there.
Yeah, his character was like a little pest, yeah.
That was kind of, he played it well, you know, it's convincing.
Rico is Moises.
Yes.
In real life.
The real little boy, I suppose.
Not anymore, though.
He's grown up, too.
Yeah.
The Jake, the, Jake, Jake, he's cute.
Her, the blonde guy next to him.
Oh, Cody Linley, yes.
What happened to him?
He kind of fell off.
I suppose.
Yeah, I don't know what he's really been doing.
He was pretty cute.
And then, like, on the show, he was cute.
Now he's cute.
I love how Hardy goes promoting Hannah Montana, though.
Like, he really is all in.
And Miley also gave him a shabellie.
out in the interview with Alex Cooper in the special because like she's like it was a little
love triangle was like are you team Jake or team Jesse and Alex Cooper asked her and she's like
I'm gonna say team Jake because he always talks nice about me in interviews Jesse having heard
from him oh like the actors yeah who's Jesse I don't know Jesse I actually don't think he's
been in much after Hannah Montana oh no I know what he's doing he got married I did see someone
into a TikTok be like what happened to this guy he had the dark hair and he's like he just got married
and had a family oh work okay so he's just like in
Congratulations.
Anonymous world.
Yeah.
But Cody Lindley is still, he's given
Miley her flowers anytime he can.
Oh, I love that.
Why was she trying to kiss Jesse
when she was with Jake?
I think she said that
Miley liked Jesse,
but Hannah,
as Hannah, she would pick him.
Carl, you're the same person.
That's the same brain.
What do you mean?
That's crazy.
That sounds like a crazy person.
Well,
Miley likes it.
It's like having the alter egos.
I think she meant the character.
Like the character for,
the character of Hannah would go
with Jake, but like as Miley Cyrus, not Stewart, she herself liked Jesse because he was more of
the bad boy.
Oh, in real life?
Yes.
Not Miley Stewart.
Yeah, as her.
That was like her own personal answer.
Like as Miley Cyrus, she liked Jesse.
Okay, but Miley Stewart slash Hannah like Jake.
Yeah.
Well, she liked both, but she said she prefers Hannah.
Massy.
This show sounds messy.
For Disney Channel.
In high school.
Because I saw just a clip.
And she like, I really, I want to kiss.
He's like, what? You want to kiss her?
And it's like, no, no, that's not what I meant.
The girls, me. We're eating it up, Mama.
We loved a little love triangle.
Loved it. That's so funny. I can't even think of like a love triangle I liked.
I don't think so. I never was into it.
Jacob and Edward?
I guess, but I was 32 when I watched that movie.
I tried to think as a kid what shaped my puberty adolescence.
I don't know if there was ever loved triangles.
I don't know. I don't have a Hannah Montana.
I guess my Hannah Montana.
You know what it was Debbie Moore in Strip Tees.
She remember she had it all
She was like had a banging body
And she wore those Hawaiian shirts
And then she got Bert Reynolds
But Reynolds liked her
Actually Demi Moore in every movie
Rob Redford paid her a million dollars
To have sex with her but she was also married
to Woody Harals and she was like
That was my inspo
I was like I want to be this girl
Explains a lot
Yeah
Literally
I'm trying to think of like a kid show
That would have shaped me
I guess like saved by the bell
But like that doesn't really shape me
I guess I wanted to come to California
I don't know
I don't think I had a Hannah Montana
I watched Lizzie but I was like her age
I was like 15 so I wasn't like a little kid
But you were like how old watching this
Like 8 10
I was
8th grade when it came out
So 11 or 12
Oh, you're Myli's age then
Yeah
Oh, and she was like 12
Okay
She started when she was 11
So I think I must have been 11 2
I don't know
Do you know what you're watching at 11 years old?
You never tell me about TV shows you watch as a kid
It was mostly like nature shows
And stuff like that
Also explains a lot
The Whales on the shirt
I like those
Okay, you're watching nature shows
Yeah, well, we didn't have that many stations.
This is before cable TV.
So mostly like educational TV, you know, like those channels.
So it's mostly educational stuff.
But I would love.
But I would love watching it just to get educated.
Okay.
That's crazy, but I love that.
All right, Han Montana, nature, stripties.
Did you see at the premiere, Miley go on a tangent of calling Alex Cooper creepy?
I did.
I did everyone's like she's jokingly saying this I'm like
this one's a little real
it was because they live next door to each other
yeah she's like Alex Cooper
she's a little creepy she's a super fan
she was forgetting the lyrics but she
loved Hannah Montana she ended up moving right next to me
creepy is a crazy word because I feel like okay when you're joking
like oh but she said she ran into her
is like oh you live here and like
don't play around you interviewed me in this house five years ago
oh oh my gosh she's really calling her out
interviewing her five years ago next year you know she moved next to me oh i wonder if that's true
because that's a little crazy when something you live here i've had that happened before
oh i didn't know what do you mean you didn't know like yes you did like what do you mean like that's why
you're here like that people go while and walks pat and like oh i didn't know you know also when
you buy a house in neighborhoods with celebrities the agents first and they tell you like oh this
person leaves here that person leaves there you're going to be named yes remember when we got this
house it wasn't even our agent put her a picture on his flyer he i think it was the agent of the
people of the house and he's like sold this house to these people what
It doesn't even our agent.
And it's like, I'm sick.
On their flyers.
Because we got it in our mailbox.
Like one of those free flyers you get.
And we're like, what the hell?
They like, last day.
Yes.
I was like, um, that's when we got the people walking by.
Like, you live here?
It's like, we know we're on that free flyer.
Like that's so, yeah, they definitely will tell.
No, Miley Cyrus, they don't live there anymore.
But, uh, Gigi gorgeous lived in Miley Cyrus's old house.
Oh, yeah.
I remember that.
Yeah.
Because if people would like buzz, it would still be like,
Miley Cyrus's like name on the buzz thing.
And they would like be like, it's Miley here.
and yeah, so she lives in a little bit of, that's kind of cool.
I like that little bit of history.
I know she was engaged.
Miley, yeah, she's pretty low-key.
But I think randomly it was the Avatar Fire and Ash premiere as when she wore her engagement
ring.
So that was December or November.
So it's been a few months, yeah.
I love that for her.
Yeah.
She looks happy.
She looks good.
I liked her outfit.
Yeah, I love that she's like really embodying Hannah Montana.
Like it's so fierce.
But also like Hannah,
Montana is like, Hannah Montana style is weirdly in trend right now anyway.
So everyone kind of, yeah, it just like fits perfectly.
Best and worst dress of the Hannah Montana carpet.
Well, you know who my best is.
We're aligned.
Actually, when Moses texted next morning, I was going to tell him, me and Oscar were texting
the moment she hit the red carpet, Moses texted in the group chat.
And we're like, oh, yeah, gagged.
And then like, but like the moment she hit it the night before Oscar and I were texting
about it, how good she looked.
Yeah, and that woman is Michaela Negera.
Yeah, she ate that.
I mean...
She ate that.
Even just her going through the outfit options,
we were going through,
we were like analyzing which out what outfit she's going to choose.
The one at the end of that one.
I was like,
girl, no.
All of them seemed diabolical.
Yes.
But, you know,
that girl knows how to make a video.
Let me tell you.
Because she got me.
I was concerned.
I was too.
She had like little pleather boots,
which didn't look bad on her.
It was like these like thigh high,
like pleather boots.
I was like,
no girl with like a blue paisley draw.
I was like no.
But she took pieces and she turned it out.
And all of you that are hating
are so mad that she looks good, so jealous.
I'm just gonna call it out.
I've seen so many,
Brad and chicken fry called it out too,
but it's true.
So many mean as bullying TikTok's being,
like she doesn't look good.
She looks good.
She looked good.
Like, I don't know.
Her body was eating her makeup, her hair,
her aesthetic, the lime green,
like everything about it,
the Louis Vuitton,
like she was the interviews on the red carpet,
but I've seen more charisma on personality
to her than any influencer in the past 20 years.
And let me tell you,
who was ET's best TikTok?
Michaela.
Yeah, I'm so glad we got, we got Denny Director.
I said, Sister, when you see this woman,
come down that carpet, I don't care if you're talking to Miley, you get me.
He's so good.
He asks like he's like, you would think he's the biggest Michaela fan
the way he just has conversation with her.
It was so also messy booze and also her being messy boots back.
He's like, I heard you have a boyfriend.
I wish I had my phone show I could show you.
She's like, where is he?
It was just like, the banter was amazing.
She's so good.
I literally like DM'd her.
I put it on the day.
I'm like, girl, come on the pod.
You're not lying.
Like, come on.
I know the goofy goobers follow me.
Michaela follows me.
They were all in town.
They were all in town.
They took pictures with Tanna.
One of the goofy goobers was with Tanna
and they say bleach and tone.
You know what she said?
She was taking a picture with Tanna and she's like,
do you need a bleach and tone.
And then Tanna's like, you know what?
I do.
Like it was so, they looked like they were having such a key.
And I am, I was jealous to miss her.
She was best dressed by afar.
The wig, Aid.
Everything ate.
People were trying to come for her makeup from everything.
I'm like, it flawless.
I lived, like, seeing her.
brought such a smile, like not even just to my face, to my soul.
Yes.
Me too.
I felt so much joy seeing her.
I was like, this is fierce.
I loved it.
Because she's one who's very selective about her carpet.
Yes.
Yes.
She's a hard guest to book.
So the fact that she, she could come from wherever, where is she from again?
Boston.
Boston.
But Emily Osmond couldn't come down the street.
Period.
Right.
Literally down the street.
Literally down the street.
We know where they film.
We've been there in the Warner Brothers lot.
You could have hopped on over and gone right back after lunch, you know?
that is the tea
she looked so good
and the interviews
she shouldn't get interviews a lot
but she's a great interviewer
I was like honestly
you're amazing
and she gives such a good interview
I had DM'd her
I messaged her
I was like girl
we don't talk about any drama
just come on the pot
just sit here
you're so funny
we'll smell that perfume
for 90 minutes
I have it give me that sniff
POV
whatever else you're selling
I'm buying
telescopic lioryale mascara
she looks so good
I watched the goofy goobobers
take off her wig
she took down the goofy goobber's hair
like it was just
it was such
I wish I would have gone just for that reason.
I know, it was a key.
Paige is also such a Michaela's super fan.
So the second I saw Michaela tease her outfit,
I said, Paige, if you don't get a photo with her tonight,
don't even bother.
She sure did.
That was her number one on her list, and she got it.
And looked sickening.
Oh, I saw, yeah, I saw Michaela taken with Hannah.
I didn't see the one with Paige, but she's.
Harry Daniels saying to Michaela as well.
I did see that.
A little Gracie Abrams.
Yes.
For some reason.
I love Harry Daniels being there.
Heronels is at every carpet.
He is there.
I don't know either.
He's always like there at the end.
I remember the Elvis one.
He's like there right at the end where like everyone has through Baz and Austin and all
and a sudden.
And it's like, it's like wild to see him.
He's a different kind of paparazzi.
That's true.
He is.
He's like a likable one that people are gagged to see because he's also.
They looked.
They looked amazing.
So many people.
I love Quinn's backflips that she was doing.
Oh, yes.
I love that.
I always think that is fun too because I would see videos of everyone just like being so serious on a red
carpet.
I love when they're fun and a key.
This carpet was just.
wild. It was a good time. It was for the good time girls.
Everybody was there. Tanna looked good. Tana Montana. I love that. That's so good.
She has a great name that can go with anything. She looked amazing.
Who else was there that was like, not a lot of boys.
No, not a lot of boys. Some gays though, but yeah, I feel like it was very much for the girls.
For the girls. It was very girly pop-coded. I didn't see a lot of gays. What gays were there?
God, I mean, Carter. God, there's another one I follow, and I forget his name, but I loved his
outfit because he wore like a vintage Miley shirt
with like all denim. Ah, that's good one.
And there was another gay that I
follow who like cosplayed.
There's like one specific Hannah Montana
episode where she parodied like the
swan. Yeah. Who was a majorque wore?
Yes. I saw a couple swans.
I love those. And I didn't get the reference
but I like that now that you say that. I know like
now again relieved I didn't go because I don't know
what that. I would have looked basic in comparison.
I don't know what I was. Same. Yeah. I think
those you have to like prep and you have to know you probably
could have killed it because you know the vibes.
I would have been like, I have no idea.
I know the vibes, but like, I would dress as if I'm Tara Yomi size.
You know what I mean?
It's like how do I just like, how do I address that for like someone who is?
Tar Yummy was gagged to be there too.
Everyone was so gagged to be there.
She said she got a YouTube jacket and said started in 2012.
So like how old would she have been?
2012 is so long ago.
Was she eight when she started?
Like that's so.
That was crazy.
She was born in 2000, so she was 12.
Oh my God.
A lot of people started in high school.
school.
High school, but 12 is middle school.
I don't think that's legal to start YouTube.
I think it should be 13 to start a YouTube channel unless she had her against her parents
started it before.
That's crazy.
12 years old she started.
I can't even imagine.
We should start one for, we should start one for Aquaman so he could be like the longest
because he started at zero.
Be like, this is Aquaman's.
I do find it weird.
I mean, we obviously post our children online.
I do find it weird when people make accounts for their kids.
Like Instagram run by this.
I'm like, well, you don't need a full Instagram.
Yeah, when it's a special, I get it's like a child.
star or something.
Yeah.
I think that happened with a lot of the
stranger things kids.
It was like ran by my mom or whatever.
Oh, that's funny.
Yes.
But yeah, it is funny.
And then they caption as if they're then.
Oh, do they?
I see that for dogs and stuff too.
That's cute because dogs don't talk.
Yeah.
But kids become adults.
Yeah, that's true.
Don't really.
They never can talk.
Do they even have brains, you could say?
I don't know.
How can't even forget that one?
I feel like that was a classic.
People forget that one a lot.
I guess I wasn't on the floor.
That was the first time I was rage baited, I think.
Do dogs have brains?
I remember being so rage baited by that.
Yeah, they do dumb me.
Everybody was.
I know.
Going through my memoir, I remember we were going through all these moments.
And I'm like, God, I do remember that being so like, people were pissed.
People were so pissed.
And I'm like, obviously, to me, that was so obvious, the troll.
I think you were just very early on in the days of trolling and rage bait.
Like, rage baiting wasn't even a term.
Yeah, trolling wasn't a term.
So you were just too.
ahead of the curve wherever like I believed you
I was also like 13
back then people they know they're like if it's online
must be true literally very that somebody
talking this on my screen must be true
that's true remember lonely girl
15 she was like the first
like troll she everyone thought she was like a real person
I believe her too yeah well that one looked
she was very convincing I like that
the art of deceiving everyone I was thinking about Jenna Marbles I'm like I wonder
if she was like a real person or if that was just like a character
that was a good like was that really her
like I met her in real life obviously one
And I was like, oh, she was like so sweet.
But I'm like, do you think that was like who she was at her core?
Maybe not because she like left the internet.
Just like, I hate this.
I'm over it.
I feel like towards the end when her videos got more like relaxed especially.
I think that must have been kind of authentically her.
She feels authentic to me.
I just don't know, you know, because all these things.
She's like, God, what if that all was like a big?
That's true.
Because she started with Barstool.
So I was like maybe Barstool.
Same thing of Daily Great.
Well, it was called Daily Grace.
No, Grace Helping.
Yes.
Was she Daily Grace?
Mm-hmm.
At Barstool or after?
I actually don't know
I honestly didn't know about Barstool
until I started this program
So wait really?
Yeah I had no idea
I always knew I never knew what it was
But I remember Jenna Marbles
Everyone's like she would make videos for Barstool
And she'd be always like bikini hot
And I was like oh she started with Barstool
And I was like I've always heard of it
Didn't know like Dave Pornoy or anything like that
But I and then I remember Grace
I think she couldn't get the name Daily Grace
So she changed it to
I don't know why
She changed to something else
Or maybe she couldn't have that
Because she left
So she had changed it to something else
But I always just wondered if someone created those characters
or if they just brought themselves to it.
You know what I mean?
Like Jenna was like,
I'm going to be the hot sports frat girl, you know?
I feel like, I mean, obviously I don't know for sure,
but the sense that I got is that it is kind of just there,
like a heightened version of themselves or whatever.
Barstow kind of fell off because they used to create all those superstars call her daddy
and now they just don't have anyone, right?
I guess, right?
I feel like Dave tries to grow up.
to all these like random podcast he does with them and it just doesn't work he's I want to say he's
great I guess he's likeable and like watchable date but everyone else he creates now is boring I don't even
know anyone on there I really don't know anything about bar stool but I just see the little stool
behind them in every podcast setting it's like a blue with a circle and a stool sometimes on Twitter
I'll see like someone instead of a checkmark well they have a check mark but then also a little bar stool
next to them is it um um chicks in the office are they are they bar stool oh I don't know they might be barstool
because I watched a clip of them with Demi and Lovato went back recently.
And I think I saw a barstool behind them.
Oh.
I think Frankie Taylor-Call is going to be going to get a podcast there.
Oh, I thought Barstall discovered her.
I was going to be gagged for a second.
You were gagged.
I was like, wait, her too.
I was going to say that too.
She's that meme with her in the barstool.
Oh, I didn't even put that together.
That's all I kept saying when you kept saying barstool and I was saying like.
Who's the face of Barstool?
Oh my God.
Okay.
I saw, yeah.
I didn't even think about that.
It was crazy.
She could have a podcast with them for sure.
That'd be so funny.
Yeah, I don't know what they're doing.
Nothing.
Well, I guess speaking of a podcast, Jesse Draper, back to Mormon wives.
Damn.
Oh.
Thank God we got into Mormon wives, like when we did, I suppose.
Because now, like, if we didn't know anything about them and they dominated the new cycle for the whole month of March, like, we'd be really out of the loop.
Some people appreciate half the audience do, half the audience, like we're over it.
So we can do a little timestamp right here.
We won't go longer.
We won't go.
No, there's been too much to really.
But speaking of rage waiting and Mormonized before we get into it, did you see the clip of,
and I think he's just, I think he's just the ultimate rage baiter and like I just need
to stop talking about him.
But Nick Vile.
Oh, talking about the Bachelorette.
Yeah, where he's like, how did she, why did they even go with her?
How would she even get on The Bachelorette.
And it cuts to him being like, so I told him the bachelor out was my idea.
Like, are you a rage baiter or are you just dumb?
I think he's rage baiting.
He has to be.
Yeah, and everyone's hawk-spotted.
Also, he was in the news when Taylor, after the Bachelor, it was canceled, was like saying,
Nick Vile's always going to be my guy.
So.
Who said that?
Taylor, yeah.
When did she say that?
She commented on a random video of Nick Vile and said, oh, Nick Vile, that's, he's always
going to be my guy.
Instantly unfollow.
Not kidding.
I'm unfollowing her.
That's crazy.
I'm sorry.
If a female is being like that's my.
We draw the line at Nick Vile.
Absolutely.
What do you mean?
He is actually the worst.
That's so insane.
I do not. That's a male-centered woman right there.
And that's it. I'm done. I'm over the Taylor, Frankie-Paul, standing.
She's been on their podcast.
Yeah, a few times.
Yeah. So she obviously has good.
I mean, it's one thing to go on the podcast.
And I'm going to be like, that's my guy.
Girl, you are male-centered and you need it's up.
Which everyone was saying.
And I was like, no, no, no, she's not.
She's not done.
You like, Nick Viles are a guy?
Absolutely not.
I'm unstanding immediately.
That's so insane.
I mean, Dakota was her guy.
That was enough.
Oh, my God.
He is awful, too.
I don't like anything I find out about him.
Okay, so yes, call her daddy, Jesse, which is crazy right after the podcast.
I was like, oh my guy, I said to you.
I was like, what?
Did you know she was going to be on this week?
I knew there was rumors that the reason why Jordan, her now estranged husband, filed for divorce so randomly and quickly was because she was scheduled to go on call her daddy and give her side of the story.
And the restraining order he tried to get.
Yes.
And then he tried, Jordan tried to get a restraining, a temporary restraining order again.
Jesse and I think that was also part to make her look crazy and as if she's the troubled one in the relationship.
That's so f*** up.
I hate this guy.
He might be the worst.
I don't know.
I need to call her daddy with every Mormon wife.
I need to figure out who is the worst because they are all awful.
Yeah, we need to look at a tear list.
They're awful.
I'm so glad I called them all ugly and musty two months ago.
Everyone's like, that's so mean, but it's like they're so awful.
Like the more this interview made me like hate this person so much.
Like how can you do that?
Does someone that you have kids with that you've been in a marriage with?
Like, how are you so.
evil like oh death I made this buttons for you guys so if you ever encounter them
oh no what's it saying Moses loves you custom buttons he does these I love that that's so
fun he tells now we to go to bed okay okay one two what push yours to the microphone say make the
morning what did that say you know it are you you know because it's a simulation like if you
this is a simulation you just talk to the computer in public
if you have a problem with a straight guy, you can just push that button.
I don't know where he comes up with these.
Okay.
Oh, super gay and horny.
I did see that.
But maybe they're already, so I don't know.
I got to see a fan fiction of Jesse holding Dakota.
It's like Jesse and Dakota up in the Jordan, sorry, Jordan, not Jesse.
Jordan and Dakota.
And like, oh, it was a brokeback mountain.
And it was their faces on them just like holding each other.
And I was like, it is giving.
You mean hunch bank mountain.
By the way, Brian Jordan Alvarez has been using that sound like three times.
He's using like multiple times.
I can't train that.
And I'm so.
confused.
It's such a good sound, though.
Is it?
I don't know if it is.
It's a good sound.
Okay, I love it.
Hunchback Mountain.
I love when people use them.
I love when people find sounds that you're just like, I don't get this.
I really don't get it, but I love it.
Well, they're hunchback mountain together.
Went crazy.
Do you think people would they sympathize with them, though, if they're like, yeah, we were
gay and we were just like hiding, you know?
Probably.
Maybe that could be the only thing that saves them, truly.
Yeah.
that even that would be a stretch.
But then it's even more of a deception towards their partners.
Sometimes they don't know or they have to hide it.
It's not really a deception.
Sometimes they don't know or they think they're not.
Especially Mormons.
Like they have to believe.
But you're saying if they were, you know, human decorat.
Like if there was things happening, then at that point you know.
Yeah, but maybe that's why.
Maybe that's why.
Because, you know, they can't be gay in the Mormon church.
Like they don't accept gay.
So maybe they're just like, you know, they were like fighting not like speculating.
But I just, I just know a lot of people.
Yeah, that can't, they're like, we had to leave the Mormon church because, like,
I think David Archelado talks about it.
And I think his mom left the Mormon church.
Same reason because they were just like gay is not a gay, which is crazy.
Because I saw a TikTok that a lot of the friction, everything that's happening is because
the man basically married these women, tell them, you know, the young age, early 20s,
we're going to get married, you're going to be home, you're going to raise the kids,
I'm going to go work.
And then all these women became super successful in the bridewinners.
And now the husbands are like completely lost, don't know what to do with themselves,
and how to deal with this.
Yeah.
Because now the wives are the one running the show, the stars.
They're so mad.
Everyone's so mad.
And so that's what kind of like throws all into this loop that they don't even know how to handle.
Yeah.
The opposite of masculine is whatever they are.
They're so weak and insecure.
They really are.
It's the way they are.
This Jordan, too.
How old is he?
He looks old, huh?
I think he's 30.
He looks so crazy.
He's 31.
Oh my God
He looks like he's like 50
Jason Earl looks
Yeah
He's giving Jason Earl's tea
He's 31
Oh my God
Okay
I hate him anyways
All right call her daddy
Alex is seated for this
She's the fan
She's the super fam
I love that
She's I feel like she's
She's a Superman and Mormon eyes
You can't really clock her interview skills
On this one
Because she was locked in
She had follow up
She was
I think genuinely inquisitive
About what the hell is going on
Because this filmed last week
And she didn't have to give the disclaimer
Like if any developments come, we filmed it on March 20th.
Oh, that's so funny.
Because, I mean, it is updating constantly.
Jesse followed me.
I was so excited.
Well, she had like already followed me because I went to go look her up and said follow
back.
And I was like,
I know.
I was like, well, I wish I would have gotten in on this all sooner.
I know.
That's so massive.
I know.
It's so our curse.
I know.
I could have gotten into all of this sooner.
I need to know.
The team we were so close seeing Layla a couple weeks ago.
Damn.
It is really the curse of Josh Trish.
Any Mormon wives, please feel free to come on.
Yes, for real.
I need the team.
at this point.
Sure.
We'll take the supporting.
Is that the one who was with Dakota?
Yeah.
I need to know.
I do have questions.
I need to know.
But Jesse went on call her daddy and did confirm the rumors that Jordan was using escort services.
I guess I should still say allegedly.
Jesse claims allegedly that Jordan was using an escort service.
And this was before season one premiere.
So before the fame.
and before she kissed another man on the show.
Oh.
Because I didn't know that.
What season is that?
So that happened season two, I believe.
She kissed Marciano in the villa.
And.
This villa.
I know.
The villa is a source of all evil.
I'm not sure I'm going anymore.
For Patreon.
When you do investigate in the villa.
What's happening at the villa?
She gets him on camera too?
I don't know if it was on camera because I haven't got there yet.
I just started season one.
But she did because Marciano.
she admits to kissing Marciano but that's it okay um but so this was before all that so he Jordan
allegedly hired like an escort service and the escort service like uh ended up giving Jesse like
all these receipts because then they found out who she was when the show premiered there it was in
the middle of them doing like a press tour for the shows when she found out about it so yeah the
escort went directly to Jessie and gave her like all these receipts oh my god what were the receipts
uh it was hint like messages between the two and also like had
his phone number because that he used to join the website or whatever.
And then also like it was in Texas when I during the time period when,
uh, Jordan was traveling for work because he was still working at that time.
So Jesse's like, I, I can pretty much verify that this is true because it was before the
show like how would you even have his number?
How would you know where he was?
Um, so it all kind of aligned.
Ah.
And then she also said that and this is still like alleged because she has no proof of this.
But she claims that is.
It seems Jordan was going to sex parties and orgy parties when she had just given birth to her daughter because someone had to come up to her sister and ask, like, are Jessie and Jordan still married?
Because I'm seeing him at these parties.
So.
You know, hate him.
Yeah.
She should have done more than Kiss Marciano.
She should have done a lot more than that.
That's so gross.
Yeah.
Especially when your wife just get you out of me.
I don't know what's happening in Utah, all these sex parties.
I know so many adults.
And I don't know anyone who's been to a sex party.
Like, I've never been to a sex party.
It's wild.
Yeah.
I think, again, it probably has something to do with, like, you are told so much stuff is wrong.
Like, a lot of, you know, drinking and sex, the family and all this stuff.
So you are banned from it for so long that, like, once you're an adult and have access to it, maybe you get a little.
Like, sex parties, I get having, like, an affair, I guess.
I don't know.
Like, I guess I could understand that.
But, like, you're just going.
They do be swangin.
Yeah, like, how, you just go to a house and everyone's having sex.
Is that what's happening?
Like I'm so, I actually don't know.
Have you been to one?
You've been to bathhouse.
That's different.
What is it different?
You've been to a sex party?
You get invites?
How does it work?
I guess technically I did go to one once when I really liked a guy and he invited me over.
And, but it was like a party.
Like, I went specifically to like see him, but he was hosting a sex party.
So I did get like bamboozled.
So what happened there?
I went specifically, God, I was big too.
It was like a bear gathering.
It was all fat people.
Or chasers.
It was both.
It was like a mix.
Because the guy I liked was a chaser.
So.
I bet it was so many chasers.
It's crazy.
And then when it's like you and a bunch of biggies fighting for one chaser, damn, that's rough.
No, you see like a list of their exes and you're just like, oh.
Oh.
Yeah.
I see what this is.
It's very humbling.
Is that a bad thing?
No, but I think, we talked about it before, like the fat blindness.
I definitely did have.
that and then you do realize when you're surrounded by other fatties trying to get the attention of
one like fake guy you're like oh yeah we're all fatties together you know we're all in it together
okay i love i wonder if that's where uh jordan i wonder if he was going at the fatties
and maybe that'd be crazy because like what is happening up there like even wild yeah the soft
swinging of it all like all of it's just like because when i watched i seen a clip of taylor talking
about the soft swinging and she like you were there we were making out we were on top of each
I was like, what is the husband?
There was four husbands and just us two wives.
I was like, what is happening?
It's so weird.
I don't know.
No judgment, but I've never done that.
Like, I've never been to that.
And I'm like, I feel like I've done everything.
And I was like, that is so odd.
And how do you host them?
I guess it's just people, like you said,
maybe like a little repressed up there and they're just looking for, I don't know.
A little sucking.
Maybe.
But more than soaking, I guess.
Yeah.
So, yeah, Jesse did talk about that.
And then also like the.
emotional manipulation how he would like isolate her and uh he also like when he filed for divorce
he used her cheating which was her kissing marciano but she was holding protecting him with the truth
of that him using escort services and him being like unfaithful allegedly uh like she protected him
and shielded him from that but she could have gone when he was smearing her name and making her
feel bad for kissing someone else she she could have been throwing him under the bus that was
just talking about when she had all the text that he was going to expose on ticot if she when she did
something wrong. He's going to post it. So what were the text
between her and Marciano?
Well, that was specifically, I think, too.
She talked about like Harry Joussey. He would hack her
Instagram. Oh, that's right. The audio messages, yes. He would hack her Instagram.
At the scene of the crime. All the crimes, yeah.
She's like, oh, you know, when they're talking to, when
Jesse was talking to Alex where she was just like, you know how Harry is.
You're not a little possum. I was like, first of all,
I'd be weird too. If someone was, if hire Jousy texted Moses,
you naughty little possum, I'd be like, what is happening?
I would, first question.
Yes, I think I might question it.
I think I might be like, hmm, you know.
That is so funny.
Yeah, Dary found out I got a voice memo from Ted Nivison calling me a naughty little posse.
I would be in trouble.
But you know, we're in Hollywood.
It's AI.
People use AI.
They try to break us up.
Not if it's Harry Jousy.
Harry, stop texting people that.
That's what he told her.
Yeah, Jordan was telling.
He was trying to gaslighted her.
What did he say?
That all the messages from, you know, the escort company and other people.
He was saying like, it's all AI.
This is like the new phase.
Smart.
I'm going to use that for everything.
That's actually so smart.
All my past videos that I hate.
It's AI guys.
It's not me.
That is,
oh my God,
that's actually so smart.
I give him some credit, I guess.
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Actually, she said...
No. Oh, she did.
And then a little bit at first,
and then she ended up being like,
there was too much evidence.
Yeah.
But in general, he was gaslighting her,
and she said that for the last four years.
Yeah.
Like every time she would try to break up with him until,
like you haven't healed yet.
You don't love yourself.
You can't love, like things of that nature.
I'm like, oh, that's bad.
I am.
He is the worst.
Yeah.
And you're ugly.
Like, you're actually physically ugly.
I suppose Dakota has an argument.
He's like somewhat attractive with his hair transplant.
And then maybe Zach Affleck, I, I maybe, maybe I guess some people.
But this one is ugly.
Like looks like a little leprechaun, diabolical smurf evil.
That's being nice.
But, um, I am.
And also just like threatening somebody, especially like, again, when you have like kids.
And that was the big thing too.
Like he, when he would like gaslight Jesse and get like a rise out of her and she would start to react, he would get out of his phone and start recording her because Jordan is very close with Dakota.
So Dakota and him like in cahoots.
So I think Jordan was learning from Dakota like, oh, record her.
Oh, that's right.
So that way you have something.
That part made me so sick.
Because she's like, what was the moment that you knew you got to file for divorce?
And she like, as soon as he started like, fill.
like filming me and being like, oh, what are you doing?
What is this? I do think that is
when the marriage is over. I think when you start filming each
other, I think that's, yeah, it's like over. And good for her.
Honestly, good for her. Because she's like, what am I doing? Chasing him
around and giving him this thing. Like, and she just
left. And yeah, I think that's
actually so sad though. Because she's like, you know,
we have kids and like the house. He like said she could stay in the guest
room and the house that I paid for.
Yeah. Men have the audacity. They really do.
I know. And that's again, why I get hard on Taylor.
And I know. Because
Jesse also is a victim of like basically emotional abuse.
Yeah, yeah, she said that out.
So not to the links of Taylor as far as we know.
But maybe, maybe she's still protecting him because they have kids and she knows the kids will see it one day.
They're young, but yeah.
Taylor obviously Dakota is like manipulative, abusive towards her.
It's like so obvious even without everything that's come out, just seeing it on the show.
Like it's emotionally abusive.
Yeah.
But it's just been like there's so many incidents and it's been so many years that I'm like.
And also she, Taylor has like the awareness that it's toxic, that it's chaotic, that it's
chaotic that it's not good for her that she pokes at him and that everything he does is to get a
rise at her and to isolate her and try to like derail her life and it's just like why can't you get
out of it? And I know it's so hard for some people like obviously she has some kind of like issues
and has struggled with sobriety and stuff before but it's like you have so many resources and
you see it like on TV back and I'm just like I just want you to like leave this man. Yes. And like
yeah when the other kids are like involved.
Like, okay, you know, you see, okay, one incident happened with your child, like, never again.
Like, why would you?
You just can't.
That's just bad parenting at that point.
And that's why with Jesse, I was like, you know, I'm glad that she just left.
It was like, I just can't do it anymore.
And she said, she said, I didn't want the kids to know.
He filed for TMZ.
She goes, you know, they don't even know yet.
And so it's all out there.
Obviously, they're three and six so they, like, don't read, like the internet.
But like, so he's up.
But he is a 13-year-old.
Oh, he does.
She said that they agreed to file together so they can tell the kids.
and then he went behind her back and filed separately and told DMZ.
So she found out from TMZ.
Oh, my rage.
I know.
It would, it would, uh, these men are just, are they just so awful.
And so it's just like, they're just bad people, like awful people, awful parents because
you have kids and you're just like, you're letting this one day and all play out
the way you both are messy.
Everything could have been protected.
You could have protected her.
She could have protected you.
Like people don't have to know the full scope.
You could say infidelity.
you could say whatever, but like now that it's getting like messy.
And I still think she's protecting him a little bit because she said, yeah, she was,
it does get emotionally abusive.
Like it probably could be just as bad as like we seen Dakota.
You know, they're just not as messy about it.
But I have a feeling that.
I feel like she's still probably trying because for the sake of her kids like a normal parent
want.
And it's so funny because like you, they could have it so easy because their wires are like
the breadwinners.
And like they could just take care of their kids, have hobbies like play golf, whatever.
and have it so easy.
Yeah.
And never have to worry about, like, working or, like, money or anything and just, like,
be a good guy, a la Connor.
Right.
It's the opposite.
It's like, they want to sabotage.
Exactly.
And it's like, that makes no sense.
Like, it's, I would be, like, you know, if it flipped and like, Moses wanted to
be, like, influencer or stuff like that, like, I would be so supportive.
If there was an opportunity, if I always think he's going to get, like, a movie, I think
he's going to be, like, Moses and the Ten Commandments, I would instantly be like,
okay, we're going to flip and I'll, like, be with the kids and stuff like that.
Like, instantly because you just go where, like, things are happening.
and things are moving and stuff like that.
Like they just don't know how.
And to me that's like the weakest thing.
I think sometimes they think they're like de-masculized
because like the women is like the star.
But it's like you actually look weaker when you try and like bring her down
because it's like, ew, your husband is a piece of shit.
Like he can't take it.
And meanwhile, they're jobs.
I mean, it was, you know, they're not doing what these girls are doing.
And they're at the fame, the level of fame the Mormon wives are at right now is actually
so insane.
Like more popular than housewives, obviously more popular than any influencer.
Taylor Frankie Paul said herself at the Oscars.
She had no like reality TV person has been like invited to the Oscars.
Like Whitney's son.
out like they're at the height
Jen Affleck getting a spin-off like boring
but like she got it and it's like
who else is getting that like it's kind of insane
like they're really the books that's the deals they get
is is wild and now even Jesse
I wasn't too familiar with Jesse and Jordan but like she's on
Clark Daddy just the way of thing it's just like
you know this level of success is not coming
to you guys you know what's this guy's name Jordan
what do what's his job? He was like a salesman
of some kind because he was traveling and
selling something he was yeah
I don't even know what he was selling, but something.
I'm not buying.
Sounds awful.
I saw Whitney and Connor listed their house for sale in Utah.
Did you see?
The biggest gag to me was $899,000 for a house.
I know.
Like a four-bedroom big house.
I know.
We went to Provo or wherever they're from.
Salt Lake, where are they from?
I think Provo is the town.
Odom?
Yeah.
I think Provo is the town that they live in.
Oh, Provo.
Oh, interesting.
That is such a specific town because that's like Osmondland.
So it's like so weird.
that they live anyways. Orum Utah's the other big one. But um,
and $19,000 for our houses. They bought it last year. They're actually taking a,
they're taking a hit. Oh, right, because they're listing it for 899, but they bought it for 913.
I was so invested. You know, we're on our Zillow era right now. I know. I was thinking about
that too. I was like, damn. Yeah, they bought it 913. They're taking a little bit of a hit.
I guess they're just like, let's get rid of it. They just bought it last year. Yeah.
They're never going to go back? They're like, bye. They're just done with Utah, I guess.
I know. I know. They're just like moving to New York.
they live in the life.
They must be living that bougie life
because they have a private chef
and I'm like, you're fancy.
I think when someone has a private chef
I remember Joey Gersoff had a private chef
and I was like, wow.
He did. I didn't even know that.
Yeah, it would have dropped off food
I think every like three days, two days.
You're right, yeah.
He's like, oh yeah, yeah, the chef made this from me.
Yeah, you're right.
And he would have all his like portions like out of right.
Yeah.
And they had cookies.
Sometimes they had fresh cookies.
He's like the chef made this.
I was like, love that.
If you have a chef, you're not even Shane had a chef.
I don't even when I knew David he didn't have a chef.
Like that's that's buge.
That's fancy.
And Whitney's chef is always posting meals and always looks so good.
And I was like, oh, I love that.
I mean, I have a chef too.
But different chef.
And also, we'll end on the, we'll do it, TFP rapid fire.
Okay.
So there was a new investigation by NBC News that outlined a good timeline of everything
that they know so far of the incidents is, I suppose.
Okay, so incident one was February, 2023.
That's where the video came from.
And it was also in season one.
of Mormon wives.
A new one that I don't think was public information yet.
Incident 2, it was in 2024.
Exact date is currently unknown, but it's the least documented of the three.
So all we know is that Dakota reported an incident in 2024.
So that was like a new one that surfaced recently.
And then incident number three is the one that caused them a pause filming.
And that was February 24th to February 25th.
And it was a confrontation between the two claims were made on both sides.
But Dakota was the one that filed for the protective order and temporary custody.
Wow.
Which he was granted.
Yes.
And the investigation is still open, though.
Whoa.
And we'll see.
Taylor has kind of hinted that she has her side of the story that she'll be posting.
I'm sure as soon as we were at filming, Taylor will have a...
Next one day.
We'll give an update, yeah.
She'll have a slew of videos at some point.
So we'll see what happens.
But it's, you know, and I hope so.
I mean, obviously, it's all sad.
And I think it's like, it's so fresh.
Like it happened like a month ago.
Like this is all like so fresh.
It's three consecutive years in a row.
They have a child.
Like it's all so sad.
But like, you know, like you kind of said earlier, like with like Jesse and Jordan,
it's like, you know, everything has to be alleged because there's like no proof.
But if there's like proof, you know, people see it.
I think people already see the toxicity on both side.
But if it's like a physical thing, I think physical is so not to say it's like worse, but like maybe it becomes like an assault.
becomes like a charge, you know, if you're like a physical abusive person as opposed to
like emotional abuse, obviously they're both like horrible. But like, I think if you see that
side of it, people, I don't know, is there any win? No. I don't know. It's so dark. Yeah. It's kind of like
mutual, it's like mutual, it's like a mutual ending for the two of them. Mutual destruction, I think
is the phrase. And it's just like you have everything. You're on the fourth season of the show,
people were kind of buying into it, whatever. And it's like, you're going on The Bachelorette. You have
this kid. He has money. He's going to.
transplants.
Like, you know, I just feel like veneers.
Veneers.
Yes.
They all have veneers.
That's the first thing people get.
Chana is a very against veneers.
She's a very much like, don't get veneers.
They f*** your teeth.
Like whatever.
I think only if you have really f***ed teeth you should get veneers.
But anyways.
Like, like, like, it's like when you have everything and you still do this.
It's just like.
Yeah.
And like I said, like, I think the, that's why I feel like a lot of the, I mean, the audience in
general kind of gave grace like the first incident when I mean, we see on
show but she like i don't know you just hope that people get grow and change and stuff i think when
you still put yourself in a position where it was like traumatic for the kids even without seeing
the video like i mean layla is one where she talks about like she grew up in a broken household
and how that affected her having her parents fight all the time so like even just like exposing your kids
like that kind of relationship where you're fighting and screaming like back and forth and isn't so
yeah that's why it's hard for me to be like pro tail even though like i totally believe even without
proof. I would believe any claims
because like I see Dakota.
But yeah, you're doing it in front of these kids
multiple hypes and publicly now for them to see
it's correct. Like I don't even
If I've ever annoyed, I don't even want it to be. Because she says something
Oh, she did say something. She was I was trying to be amical for the kids. I'm talking
about Jesse with Jordan now. And I guess she was like the kids were there and she said something.
He's like, don't talk to me. And I was like that and she goes,
okay, I get, I see how this is going now. And I think that is like, again,
I think you're a bad parent at that point. I already think he's a bad person. Obviously
you're a bad spouse. But then you're a
it like in front of your kids. Your kids have nothing to do that. They don't want to feel
tension between parents. Like then you're just a bad parent at that point because no matter
how annoyed we are, it's like I never ever want them to feel any sort of like tension or
anything because kids don't deserve it. And it f*** them up. It's up at a very young age.
Like for, you know, like you have that you live with that anxiety, you live with that like
tenseness and I don't know. I hate it. I hate these men. It's called the Mormon wives,
not Mormon men. You're not getting a spin-off. Dad talk is canceled. You're so worried. I love
seeing the articles too being like, nobody.
We're done.
We're done with that talk.
I love it.
Every tweet, I repost any chance I get.
Because it is true.
It's the secret lives.
Even when Jordan was like, who's talking about like not wanting to film?
He's like, but she goes on dancing with the stars and is sitting with the Mormon wives.
Who was he talking about?
DeMe.
Oh, yeah.
And I was like, yeah, because she's a star of the show.
You're not.
Like, he was so like, oh, but she don't want to film, right?
Like, who are you talking to?
In my last piece of TFP news, there was an ominous update that ABC might still air the Bachelorette.
and I also separately, without this article, page six is the one that reported this, I also heard from sources, that they, their wording was very specific in the statement.
Like, yes, publications are the ones that said it's Bachelorette canceled, but ABC themselves just said, pulled it or positive, whatever, so they never specifically said, like, it's done.
So page six, they report that ABC might still end up airing the Bachelorette.
they might wait a little bit and then just drop all the episodes on Hulu or something.
And we shall see.
And also TMZ just reported to say that Taylor is still getting her paycheck for the Bachelorette.
Oh.
So that, I mean, she did fulfill her end of the deal as far as like she did the show.
But again, that kind of makes me think maybe at some point they'll actually end up dropping it.
Yeah.
People want it.
I guess I'd probably watch it.
I mean, I think it's like probably better they don't
because it just sets an example that you can just be
diabolical and just keep going in this world
which is like people are arguing like you know men
then we should cancel the NFL and stuff and I agree
I do think some men do but some don't
like last year the biggest tour was Twitter morning Chris Brown
you know what I mean and it's just like we obviously seen
how horrible and it's like yeah I agree
but
I think it's like a different
like the big thing people forget is like the audiences
are so different like this
Mormon wise bachelor's like the
audience that it caters to
is like a very
socially conscious. It's like very feminist, you know, like that kind of demographic that just
cares about those things and like cares about morality versus like a lot of sports fans just want to
see athletes who are good. Yeah, that's very true. That's a good. Yeah. People kind of tap out of like
they don't care who they're voting for, et cetera, et cetera. They just want to see the sports. Yeah.
Yeah. No, it's very true. You're right. I feel like, right. People make that argument. It's bad.
I am on the same side. But I'm not the one going to this, you know,
importing these, not even alleged, like abuse, like charge with abuse.
Yeah.
No, it's true.
And it's, yeah, it's sad.
I feel like they should keep it off.
But would I watch it probably.
I mean, so many people would.
I mean, that's just the era we live in.
I know, I'd probably feel a little laughed out.
I don't know if I could, if I could withstand.
Just watch clips.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I'm so sorry.
I would have to end the Mormon wife segment on this because this killed me.
I saw a TikTok of Lila Gibney getting interviewed about Dakota.
Did you see this?
Who was doing this interview?
What?
It was like a woman
Lila Givney
It was a jettwinic.
It was a paparazzi.
Like a paparazzi stopped to interview Lila Givney
in front of Arawan.
I think it's a, uh,
oh,
I think it's from a couple months ago.
But Lila Givney,
again,
another woman always had the scene of the crime.
She saw,
was like watching Mormon wise for the first time,
saw Dakota,
thought he was hot,
slid in his DMs.
And he's,
Dakota allegedly started sending Lila nudes.
And this was still when he was like on and off with Taylor.
Thank God, Taylor,
Frankie Paul,
didn't know Lila.
because she would have made a TikTok about Lila Gibney like that.
Tfee versus Lila Gibney, who wins?
That would have been crazy.
That would be wild.
That would be crazy.
Also, I have to have Jimmy just put the clip in because it's so funny, but, like,
Lila is like, you know I'm in my, like, love and peace era.
I'm, like, trying to not be messy or start anything.
But, yes, he was sending me nudes.
She probably orchestrated it.
Oh, my God.
I don't know who needs more therapy, me or them.
So what is your involvement with?
Dakota, Taylor, what's the situation with you?
I'm entering this new era where I like, you know,
want to be grown, want to be mature about stuff.
And I'm like, when, I can't.
And I feel like I should like leave the rest to y'all's imagination.
But yes, like, thanks for it.
Like, did I partake?
Yeah, like a fucking game of chess.
I can't always somehow at the scene of the crime.
That is so funny.
Oh, my God.
Lila knows.
Her just giving this whole like five-minute interview in front of Arawan.
Like, is so.
So camp to me.
I do love it.
That is so fierce.
It is so fierce.
I'm going to get my thoughts on it.
But yeah, she just said he was sending her news.
He wanted her to come meet up with him in Vegas.
But then he found out she was trans.
And then he like went off of her and ghosted her.
Oh, according to Lila, that's what she said.
According to Lila.
Yeah.
And she's like, you could have just Googled me to see what I was about.
And I was like, you know what?
That's fierce.
And if he's trans, which obviously is a transphode.
That makes full sense.
Obviously, yeah.
I know.
Love the tea, though.
I know. Thank you, Lila, for just a little extra tea. That killed me when I saw that. Somehow, she's always involved.
Was it on season one?
Yes, actually. Yeah. Oh, he was. I just started season one and he's in it.
And he started it. Why, I don't know. Just give me a little anxiety. Should I watch it?
I did see someone being like Taylor losing her spark, like season one, just having so much life and happiness.
That's the first thing I noticed. I was like she looks so different. Like she has so much lights her. She looked like just so.
sweet and like even though she like just clocked like oh the swing and stuff like she just was so
fun and bubbly yeah and this was like right when she met Dakota like so it really I mean
drain the life yeah I always need to talk like that like you know a bad relationship will drain the life
out of you and it's so true you see like the before and after it's just like damn god it's so
frustrating because she could literally have anybody I know so gorge and
oh right well I don't think it's the end of the Mormon wise I think we're going to hear more
they are don't literally dominating every
headline it's like kind of insane.
Wild.
Someone else dominated every headline.
I did see a Chapel Rome security guard update.
I did see that.
Although I have been radicalized and now I'm like full blown.
Actually, no, no.
I don't even care if she was in the wrong.
Like I'm standing by Chaparone because it's getting so crazy.
Wow.
That I've been radicalized.
I was like, y'all are doing too much because I agree.
She was in the Hannah Montana special and all the comments were like on any TikTok
about Hannah Montana I see were like it was good, but I wish Chapel Rome wasn't in it.
Like, it's so evil, nasty sick.
Yeah.
People were really picking a part when she was talking to Miley.
She was like, you walked so I could run, which is a figure of speech, a popular figure of speech.
That everyone uses Tana, Tara.
Everyone is going to look Hannah and Hannah, yeah.
Wow.
I can't believe she would tell her that.
Like, how, how dare she?
So she thinks she's better than Miley.
No, no.
She's just saying, like, you paved the way so I could be a pop star.
Yeah.
Like, what?
Yeah.
People just, well, was it Jimmy or someone I follow on Instagram said, like, there was a paid public smear hate campaign.
What was it?
he did but I hope
okay maybe that's why I heard it
which it is giving that
it is giving that because it is just like
weird amount of hate and just like never ending
and like you said it's like
what did you do and then when I went to like look
for hot topics like well I saw this one
article on the Daily Mail that I was like intrigued
to know like who the actual security guard was
and like all the related stories were all
these chapel like hit pieces on the Daily Mail
like so specific like she said something bad
about her coach in high school
Like it's like really going so deep.
And I'm like, we fully lost the plot.
And then I saw a TikTok that was like,
Shaila Buff is like yelling at gay people and abusing women and no one saying anything.
But Chapplerone's security guard yelled at an 11 year old and like she's the devil.
I know.
I know.
She's crazy.
No, it is crazy.
And it's true.
It's all factual and it's all sad and like people still going out of it.
It was her security guard.
We like knew it.
And it's like, okay, we've all moved on.
Like, you know, it's just like not.
It's just not that.
serious. But her security guard from the incident is allegedly a former Kardashian security guard.
Pascal Duvier, who is 53. He was Kim's security guard when the infamous Paris robbery
happened. I don't know if he's a good security guard then. Exactly. Where was he at? He was sued by
Kim's insurance company after that incident. And where was he? He was at the, I think, at the club,
but with Courtney and Kendall during that incident.
But he was Kim's security guard.
Why did he leave her?
That's a weird.
He left him at the hotel.
He went out to go with Courtney and Kendall.
Did they investigate him?
Well, he was sued by the insurance company and they settled the lawsuit in 2020.
Whoa.
Yeah.
That is kind of weird.
Like if we had a security guard and that's so weird.
Like I couldn't imagine like having a security guard and being like, oh, actually, I'm
going to go with your, I guess they're like famous too, what they'd had their own or I don't
like why wouldn't you be with Kim like if it's your security board that's how I'm saying like it's
too shady things happening around one guy yeah and I think allegedly in our opinion
article was positioned like the angle of it was like um her chapel employing like a cedey security guard
but I'm more like okay well let's just focus on this guy who obviously is doing too much
yeah let's not blame the girl he's also like humongous like he's tall and just like huge and then so
any man that big was going up to like a mom and her 11 year old daughter because also it was just her and the daughter like the football not the football player yeah yeah he like her husband wasn't there it was just the two of them so any man that gigantic going up and berating the women like it's kind of on the bar yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like why are we focusing on that more and as a child too it's also like especially in that setting when you were inside of a hotel their guests of the
hotel you cannot harass them either especially a high-end hotel it goes both ways you have no right to talk
to them either and chapel's uh-huh and chapel's uh-huh confirmed to page six that it was a third-party
security i know people keep saying that he was hired by chapel but her rep did say that it's a third party
so i think it's kind of what we said last week where it was probably like the contracted by the
festival is kind of what it sounds like yeah this guy yeah so not like the direct
like everyday personal security team.
So he wasn't like in front of her in that LAX video
or the airport video where she points at someone?
No, I didn't see him.
And when I was at the party, I didn't see him either.
It was another guy.
Not as like, he was kind of my high-ish and like really muscular.
But I think, yeah, he wasn't like aggressive or anything.
Yeah.
Sometimes the little ones is like the bodyguard with Kevin Costner and Winnie Houston.
It's kind of like the little ones are the sneaky.
Those are like the Secret Service agents are always kind of like little.
Yeah.
And I know like I always connected back to Taylor.
But like her like main security guard isn't like humongous either.
Yeah.
You want the ones that are more like.
precise.
Agile?
Yeah.
That no.
It's can spot people a mile away.
Yeah.
But the big ones are good for like just people not coming up to you.
It's intimidating.
But so yeah, I'm kind of like, well just why we should be focusing on him, if anything.
Because also there is something to say about like a man who does like find himself in a position of power who then like gets high off of it.
You know what I mean?
And like uses that as an excuse to like bully people.
Security guards in general to like those like fancy like Louis Vuitton stores, they can be a little drunk with power sometimes.
they get or you know when there's like a line or something and they yell at people just like
okay like they get a little crazy sometimes sometimes you have to yell at people who are just standing in line
waiting for like a CD drop you know people are doing like too much yeah um and again it's a little
kid I feel like if it's like someone shady or CD that looks a little like off okay but uh-huh like
what's this little girl gonna do yeah yeah I don't know we never know my favorite meme though that's
come out of it from like chapel fans is they made they're making up who the security guard was so
I saw one tweet that was like yes I am the security guard that went to yeah
at the 11-year-old little girl.
My name is Timothy Shalame.
I thought she was a ballerina.
I saw that one.
I love that one.
I saw my Saldor say,
I was me and I would do it again.
I saw one that was like,
yes, it was me.
My name is Gracie Abrams.
I have a new, poor Gracie Abrams.
Like that girl, I'm so sorry, Gracie.
Yeah, what's with her being the meme?
I don't know.
I feel so bad for her because she's always the butt of every joke
and she really just lines her business.
Yeah.
It is quite sad.
You just look cute.
Leave me alone.
Shineple baby.
you know that?
Yes.
J.J. Abram just heard dad.
Star Wars.
I don't know.
Lost. Created Lost.
Oh, he did Lost?
Yeah, which is like the best show.
Do you ever watch it?
I feel like we should do a whole lost deep dive.
I've never seen it, but maybe I should.
I had a lost podcast before.
I do recall that, yeah.
We'll bring it back.
I watched, I think, episode one, because that's when you did the bald
cosplay.
Yes, yeah.
That bald cosplay really got me.
You could do it again.
I really need you to get into it.
I love that show so much.
It sounds like a show I would get into, at least the first couple seasons.
Yeah, I think you would like it.
Moses didn't think I had like I don't think you're gonna like the show and then I like loved it it is different it's not like desperate housewise but it's you know it's good
Because it is it is that like the most sci-fi thing you've ever been into probably
Yeah, it doesn't get too sci-fi-e until like a couple seasons in it's very subtle
It's very subtle but it's like the most adventure action. I don't know whatever you call those things that I'd be into because like it
It starts with the plane crash and I was like oh I don't like this but the beginning of it 95% is them surviving an island and the dynamics between the people
But you like Survivor and that's very like scripted survivor
Okay, work.
Did you see Mike White said he wrote all of season four after he got eliminated on
Sorry, right?
Yes.
He's like, because no one knew where it was and I had nothing to do.
Yeah, he's also a key.
And kind of booge because, yeah, when you get eliminated, they put you in like, it's called Ponderosa.
What's not?
A Steakhouse?
Do you know Ponderosa?
No.
Wait, you know how Pondorosa?
It's so good.
Oh my God.
I wonder for so anyways.
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
I love that.
I don't know the lore of the name specifically, but it's pretty much like where they
keep like production stays and stuff.
So it's like, there's bungalows.
So when you get eliminated, you're still like, they keep you there.
Do people care that much if they see you on the stream?
Like, oh, he was eliminated.
Like, you don't know when they're filming or anything, right?
Like, who knows?
I think it's pretty typical because even like drag race, they keep you in a hotel.
Really?
You're like on ice afterwards.
Yeah, you basically secluded until the end of the show.
Oh, hell no.
I'm going home.
If I'm eliminated, I'm going to go home.
What do you mean?
You are going to keep me?
Do you think traders they do that?
Hmm.
I don't know.
Maybe, right?
Yeah, it sounds like it.
Yeah, it's really short.
Yeah, it's really short. It sounds like it.
It sounds like a secret anymore.
It's courtyard Marriott and Scotland Airport.
Isn't that crazy?
They're just like at a courtyard.
You're like, okay, so anyone can just come at a continent and breakfast and see you there.
Like, that's so not booge.
This is quite a track to go to Scotland.
Well, people live in Scotland.
It's not.
They don't care about this show.
Wow.
So there's some Scottish people anyways.
Okay, so he's at Ponderosa.
And he's vegan and they didn't have enough.
vegan options. So he's like, can I just go somewhere else like on my own? So yeah, he like
paid for himself to go somewhere else just by himself away from like production and stuff.
And he was like isolated and then wrote the whole. He probably just went to like, I'm just
going to go somewhere else. Well, I feel like he just went on his own little vacation by himself and
then locked in and wrote the. Yeah, he's also a celebrity. So they're like, well, we're not going to
tell you know. I know T. And he did say he wrote rules for his, uh, castmates on Survivor, but he didn't
tell them what they are yet. I told you you should have been on Survivor.
No, well, this was All-Stars.
I don't think I had a chance.
How did he get eliminated?
You get eliminated early?
It's been on for a few weeks.
I haven't watched this season yet.
But I know it was kind of a gag with the votes and stuff.
Like, it was kind of a gag because he wasn't a lot of alliances and stuff.
But, yeah.
I mean, how do you vote him on?
I'd be like, oh, I want to get on that White Lotus.
I'm going to keep you in.
Well, because it's All-Stars, they were, like, ultra-competitive.
So I did watch, like, the preseason interviews.
And a lot of them did say, like, I don't care if it's Mike White.
Like, I'm still voting to get rid of it.
They probably like, they were like, I'd probably vote him out sooner because I don't want anyone to be swayed by the White Lotus.
That's so funny.
That's such a big show.
I love that.
I can't wait for it come out.
I'm so excited.
I'm probably not for another year, huh?
If it's, yeah, it's just filming.
And they take a year to film basically, right?
Why so long?
So they'll probably wrap at the end of this year and then come out next spring?
Right.
Now that Euphoria is dead.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Oh, HBO Max, we'll get some shows.
I loved L.A.2.
heat of rival or two.
Yeah, T.
I'm trying to think what,
they have some shows you wouldn't care.
Like, they have DC shows, but whatever.
I don't care about that.
But if you want,
crying on the kitchen floor can be optioned for a TV show.
I think HBO Max could be my home.
It's the only place that I've been on TV.
Oh, T.
I guess he would be paramount.
Honestly, I'd go to be.
I'll go anywhere.
I am not picky.
Even though they have, what are they?
They put him drug herself as, right?
Escape the night.
They're going to take anyone.
Joey, I love you.
I'm just kidding.
He is very sweet.
He said he was ordering a couple.
copy of my book too. Joey's really sweet, but I feel like with him, we always love to have a little
shade and Joey, Christopher is like, low-key, so shady. Like, he's shady. He's shady. He can read. He can read.
He's, like, super nice, but he's always, like, shady. And he's, like, he's, like, for I, you know,
whereas I was going to say that. He gets away with it because he gets so nice. Like, he's an actual
nice person. Yeah, like, when he, I can post my Instagram story. I just remember. But when he
he texts me about, like, getting a PR box from his book, I was like, oh, yeah, like, I would
love to him. I'm so proud of you. He was like, oh, I hope that you learn how to read. I hope that you learn how to
read before you get it and I was like okay work so he can dish it so he's just a random read
like you're like the smartest one intellectual person he's the one that dyslexic I don't know why he's
like we're going back and forth that's crazy did you say that to him no but I should have that was a good
one that's fast that's a quick one he's funny you know good for him though I love the
we can bring your book to the euphoria premiere I don't think we got to that you did
Do they just text us?
Oh, thank God because Jared the silas, he's like, okay, if you're going to you for you,
I want to style you.
And I was like, I don't know if that invite got lost in the mail.
Wow.
Oh, my God, I got to lose weight.
It's the same as Elvis.
Do I have time to lose weight?
It's the same as Elvis.
The premiere.
Oh, same.
Oh.
Same everything.
God, I got to.
I really need to get my thighs in check.
You know, I have no muscle in my inner thighs.
What?
None.
When I, because I do Pilates and like there's certain, you know,
isolate muscles and I zero zero muscle there like I can't squeeze when she'll like
tell me like squeeze the ball like they do not squeeze no muscle there I don't know if I
believe you swear I'm pretty strong other places like I'm strong in my like legs I'm strong
in my arms like I'm pretty strong even my core is pretty strong I mean obviously fat yes but
there is some muscle there here there's literally none like there's like I like I cannot
flex it move it in I mean we're doing baby steps to get muscles there but like there's one
thing where it's like you squeeze the ball with your thigh is to like hold it in
and push it out and I like physically hang out and the other thing I can do
can't do is when you're on your knees and push back and you use your inner thighs push back
can't do it like it doesn't even move like the little carriage yeah it's really crazy how I have
no inner see about that because if I was like I want to wear a little skirt but I'm like oh I have
no muscles here that's why it hangs like jellybee cranes yeah so maybe no no little skirt for
that it's probably coming up soon you for you it's like catch me in you four yeah I can't
wait to see what they use I really don't I know I'm dying to see
I just shots a lot, and I know it's going to be a short, like, short part, but, like, actually
shot a lot, like, the amount that I was there seems like I would be in the whole episode,
but they're not going to use it.
I probably did, like, not even kidding, like, three hours of improv.
And I'm like, they're probably going to use, like, a minute of this.
So I'm so curious.
And it went crazy.
I told you, like, the conversation went so crazy.
The improv, I remember just, like, you know, just trying to be professional, like, doing it.
But then I'm like, I remember stop for a minute.
I'm like, am I being punked?
Like, how am I supposed to react to this, these scenarios?
Like, it was actually kind of crazy.
So I don't know what's going to be left in.
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But I'm assuming it'll be left in because they did a...
Yeah, a price for the reason.
Right, yeah.
That'd be crazy if it was...
Was Vinnie Hacker one of the people announced to?
He was announced way later, like, after the thing.
Right.
So like where it is.
I guess people have like context clues.
It's L.A.
And it's L.A.
That's all like.
I think people kind of like gather like what it is and what it's going to be.
Did you see the spoiler for the drama?
I am standing strong.
I'm not watching it.
TMZ did like an article, right?
Yeah.
Spoil the drama.
I wonder what the hell.
Do you read the spoiler?
Of course. You didn't read it?
No. I am standing strong because I want to actually go into it and be gagged.
Like I have my tickets for the drama.
I want to be gagged by the drama at work.
Because like I don't know, our office is like, I don't know, just newsrooms or just desks everywhere.
And then someone almost said, like read the TMZ article out loud.
And like 10 of us were like, no, Brenda, no.
Oh, because you didn't want to know.
Yeah, we're holding strong.
When did it come out this weekend?
I think next weekend.
I thought it was April.
Man, they're like way ahead.
When is April?
Yeah, next weekend, I think.
Well, it did premiere and screened.
So it premiered last week in L.A.
And then they did France on Monday, I think.
So they've had like three premieres already.
So people have seen it.
But I really want to be gagged by it.
Usually I don't care about spoilers,
but this one, the whole plot of it is the spoiler.
Right.
But I did see some reviewers be like,
I think it's too much.
Like I can't even review it.
because it's just too much.
I can't believe they went there.
I think they paid people for those reviews
to be like, this is too much.
Because, like, I was gagged by it and like,
but it's a movie.
What do you mean it's too much?
Like, do you know what I mean?
Like, this is too much,
but we're watching like weapons
with like children being,
I don't know what's happening,
being eaten in that movie.
But this is too much.
It's like, it's a fake movie.
I get the reality.
I won't, I won't spoil it.
I get that it's a real.
I mean, there's hunger games
where kids are killing each other.
That's what I was saying.
I was like,
and it is like gaggy,
but it's like not that gay.
You know what I mean?
It's like,
I guess more triggering than anything.
But people are,
I think they pay for those reviews,
which I'm going to do once in my books out
because I'm going to be like,
I'll send it to some people early.
Just like to say,
oh my God,
I can't believe she's had this.
I can't believe she went there.
You'll never believe what's in this.
You know what I mean?
That is funny.
Pay for those reviews.
I think that will happen regardless.
I think so too.
I'm scared.
I have a little scared because I'm like,
you know,
I read it and I'm like,
it's my life.
And then there's certain things I don't know if I should keep it.
I'm like, oh, just keep it, who cares?
But I'm like, I wonder if people like, will judge you all over again based on the book.
You know what I mean?
There's like reveals and stuff.
You're just like, is this bad?
Oh.
I feel like usually in books, people are like, end up getting more context to things and then feeling, like, usually come away with more of an understanding and empathy.
Okay.
I just doesn't want to revert back to my messy roots.
I think that's why, like, I think there was a study that was like people who read are generally more empathetic because you put yourself in.
into the protagonist's, like, life, basically.
Oh, that makes sense.
And you understand their point of view more.
That is true.
Yeah, I feel like even with, like, villains and movies and stuff,
when you read, like the books, you have a little more.
Like, like, Sarah Snape from Harry Potter.
You're kind of like, you know what?
He was jilted by Harry's, you know, broken by Harry's mom.
And you understand why he would hate hearing.
President Snow and Hunger Games when he got his little spin-off.
Oh, my God, you're so right.
And, yeah, you have a little empathy.
I was very sad when President Snow, spoiler, got killed by Catness.
Right?
Girl Katna Zincolom.
Oh, yeah, it hit the woman.
How did I?
She let the...
Oh, people.
Yeah, she just let them go at it.
She was the real villain.
That lady.
What was her name?
Coin?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like her hair.
She'd be.
The lob.
The foe blob.
She was good, though.
She was really cute in it.
Yeah, yeah.
Epit.
We were like, this isn't a bob.
That's a robber.
What does it mean?
Because it's not just the bob.
It's a robber.
It's a long version of the Nant got it.
People are crazy
I feel like if you have a son
you would name him Robert
My brother's name one of my brother
Oh yeah you give Robert energy
Somewhere I knew it
I'm like those psychics on TV that just like randomly say something
And you're like how do they know
It's like well
The probability of it
It's like I think you know someone with the letter M
It's so funny
Robert
I think he will combine the name his name and Darien
What would it be? Dostker
Oskirian
That was our wife on name
Orion oh Ryan's pretty good
Okay. What is that? What is that called? Like the Orion Star. What is that called?
Galaxy? No. Like the big dipper. There's a name for like the Pegasus. Like, oh God.
It's like a cluster? No. The constellation.
Wow. You were so smart. You really are the smartest. Joey saying he can't read. You're the smartest person I know. Like you really are. You were so smart.
Literally the only person that reads articles. Yeah, he reads articles. We watch the videos.
Right. The context clues you'll be like, oh, was it this person?
You have such a good memory recollection.
Like, you're so good.
Constellation.
That's another con.
Did you ever look at those as a kid?
I mean, I'm from here.
Well, L.A., so we couldn't really see.
There's no stars in L.A.?
No, there's too much light pollution.
You can't see any stars.
But it is nice, like, whenever you go somewhere, like,
where there's not as much light pollution, you can see.
We can see stars here.
I guess that makes sense because you're a little bit further out.
We saw a shooting star one, remember?
That's so cool.
Have you ever seen one?
No.
Never saw a shooting star.
Missing him.
out. That's lucky. You're supposed to wish on one if you see one.
There's been a lot of like sightings of like shooting stars that seem a little ominous lately though.
Where? What?
There was one like Texas. I think it was they ended up confirming it was like some Elon Musk.
Oh, so it wasn't a shooting star. It was a rocket. It looked like one though. But there was
kind of I'm dipping into Moses. There's been a few. There's been a few. Yeah, right? Where it was
when people were like it was so big what the hell was that? Yeah. Yeah. I've seen a
ominous.
I haven't heard about any of this.
Didn't know that was happening.
There's a lot of stuff happening in the sky.
It's scary.
No?
No?
Normal.
Okay.
I asked him,
I'm like,
what do you think about when people are like,
oh, I, like, God came to me?
He's like, no, I believe it,
but then sometimes you're like,
did they come?
Like, you actually see God?
I've never seen God.
I believe in God, but I never seen him.
You think they actually see a, like, a figure?
Like what he looks like in the pictures at this church?
I guess that's Jesus.
Like, if somebody was a near-death experience,
I think they do.
You see God?
But is that a light or is it a person?
Most people see a light.
Sometimes they see a being, it's themselves.
Oh, narcissistic to be like, oh, that's God, it's me.
Crazy.
That's what you find out.
That we are God.
Fraction.
Damn, that's wild.
Shout out to everyone who see them.
Honestly, that's like seeing Bigfoot, you know.
I mean, I believe.
I guess not the same, right?
No, but I also say that a lot of people that say that God talks about,
to them or they talk to them regularly that they don't they just believe nonsense thoughts
in their heads to be something else right yeah how do you know it's god or just the voices in your
head if it if it kind of talks to you in english it's definitely not god if you don't think he speaks
english what does he speak i think it's more of an intuition like you get like you get a download
you get a feeling it's like an understanding you get a full understanding of an idea of a concept
right but if it's words like in your head then somebody's playing tricks on you i guess someone's like
God told me to go to Reddit and write this post.
I'm like, I don't know if that was God.
I think that's...
Definitely not.
Maybe the devil probably has you go write some stuff.
It can be confusing.
God and the devil probably can be confusing to people who are...
Well, me, I was there.
Writing my book, I've talked about hearing voices.
And I'm like...
Right.
And exactly.
Those voices were definitely not positive.
Right.
Oh, my God.
The devil.
The devil came to me.
And then you see people that go too far.
It's like when you see somebody on the street walking, talking to themselves.
You know, those voices taking...
over and at that point.
You can see what the outcome
of that is. I hate it. I hate
the devil's and dad talk, I think.
We need to get them out. Call it Exorcist.
We need it.
A'sab. Get him out.
I knew from the Book of Mormon that
this is what will be nowadays.
Oh, they predicted it. You're right.
Right. Book of Mormon. They didn't say that.
They were saying something that like God has his
planet remember that no I don't really remember I don't know from the book of Mormon
they're like and we believe that God has his own planet and we'll all get there soon
I am a Mormon and by God a Mormon just believes oh I believe do you ever see it no I did
see your YouTube video when you performed it though that's all you know of the Mormon
it's just me in the kitchen yeah most of our education is Tricia re-initing
Hamilton
Mormon movies and
That's why the Broadway community hates me
They're like this is not the representation
that we want
I love bookbook
You see it Andrew Reynolds was in the original
Josh Gadda was so good
A little offensive
It's probably
problematic.
My delete they should probably
Wait wait
random sorry to go back to Mormon wives
for a moment
but that you sent me an email
that you were invited to go to Utah
to live the experience
Was that you invited to be in Mormon wives
I don't know
What was that?
I don't know.
I remember, and it was from my agents,
and I remember being, like, not that gagged by Mormon wives.
Like, do you want to come to Utah and, like, have a Mormon-wise experience?
You can go to, like, Jesse's salon.
And I was like, oh, I think I even said something.
I was, like, nice about it.
I was like, it sounds fine, but, like, you know, obviously going on a trip and stuff
with, like, out my kids and, like, I don't know.
It just seemed like, I don't know.
I wasn't, now if they were like, do you want to go to Jesse's salon?
Yes.
Yeah, I would 100%.
But, yeah, it was, like, a couple months ago or maybe a little longer.
And yeah, they were like, do you want to have the Mormon wives experience
and just kind of like hang out at all the places they go to?
I wonder if you would have been on the show.
Because, I mean, book, they saw you perform book and Mormon.
Like, good enough.
They're like Elder Paitis.
Here I come.
I would love to go around and knock on people's door and preach something.
Maybe not the Mormon word, but you know, a word.
I would love and I would love to go to Swig.
I would love to make it.
I am.
I do think Mormonism, if there is a feeling, it's my, sometimes I can be a feeling of it.
Because I love like Donnie Osmond.
I do love the black ties they wear.
I like the idea
And so it's a feeling
As they say, what's that one we watch?
What's that show with the Jewish?
The rabbi
What is that show?
Nobody wants this.
They're filming season three right now, by the way,
which please cast me and Moses.
I do think this, I know it's about the writer,
but I also think it's about us.
I think this show is us to a tea
and I think we need to be in it.
We would be so good.
The opposite, though, because like I'm the last person to...
Babe, it's called acting.
You act like you love Judaism, okay?
You act it.
I'm going to be like, I don't know if I should convert.
Right, we can be an additional couple where they're like, we show them.
Because Seth Rogen was like, you know, they were, he had a wife that was not Jewish.
He was the hip rabbi.
Yeah.
There's no Moshe on the show.
They have all these names, Noah.
They have all these like, Hebrew names and there's no Moses.
And I'm like, wait, why would it not be?
You could be a reverent, rabbi, rabbi.
No, I could be like the rebellious one.
Then you meet somebody like, dude, you don't have to be so strict.
No, that already happened.
You need to be the strict one.
I don't know.
Whatever.
Writers, anyways.
And in that show, the mom's like, I feel Jewish.
And the rabbi was like, yeah, that could be a feeling.
He's looking to do something.
So maybe we'll be the one teaching him.
Well, you can be an influencer.
Like, you can preach to millions of people.
Writers call us.
Maybe they'll have a swinging storyline.
We're the swing in Jewish,
couple of hoops and nectar, Mormon wives tea.
I love that.
That would actually be everything.
Well, I do love Mormon, the idea of Mormonism.
I think some of the stuff is kind of sounds crazy.
I know they're like slightly racist and stuff.
Like the ones that, yeah, well, the whole book of Mormon is a little, like the musical is a little like, yeah.
In the song, yeah.
I think they were a little racist when those books started.
I don't want to say all Mormons are, but I think they were a little.
Right.
But anyways, I like the idea.
I like the culture.
Which is like working out in Swig and.
Yeah, those like curled extensions.
You know what I mean?
Like that's.
Again, so I keep referencing it, but I just remember it.
when I was watching that last season,
it was like the sinners party where I was like,
oh, let's be devilish and dubious.
And that scene came on in the show.
And then I got an alert that was like,
SWAT team is rating 0.5 miles away.
And I was like, I was in the middle of yelling at Jen Affleck.
And then I look at my phone and I was like, okay, back to Jen.
Oh my God.
It was like manifesting something in you.
Maybe that's the problem there.
Have a sinners party.
You manifested this whole.
Of course, it's during the sinners party.
that that. What a weird
what is happening. I need to go up there to
Harry went there to like stir some trouble.
I want to go up there to like get things
right with these men. They need to send Cini Sweeney's
character from House Maid up there. You know what I mean? They need to
like get some correction done.
And you know
that's the only way that's the way it's going to learn.
So I did love Housemate. At the end of the end of it, I was like, you know
what? She ate that. Yeah, she
ate that, honestly.
These men are, they're really
awful. They just don't learn their lesson.
That's too funny.
Ugh.
I feel like the next season should just have no men.
Just only film the wives and blur out their faces.
I didn't see.
There's barely any left.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Like if you can't have Taylor, then you can't have Dakota.
Jordan, I don't think we want him.
No.
Connor's in New York.
Zach Affleck will be in the spin-off.
So I guess the only one left is, she.
None of that Mormon wives are going to be in it except for Jen.
Which is crazy because so many, the two of them are in California, right?
Right.
but they're not going to be on it.
Jen's the one who doesn't follow me.
I wonder why.
The toe got to her.
He said unfollow her.
He's so unnot cute.
He looks like an 80s like bully from like one of the movies.
He reminds me of literally an evil Pixar character.
Yeah, that's the accurate representation.
But if they get Aspen Ovard who, I don't know.
Do people remember, I remember her as a lifestyle girl, the Bethany Moda era.
I didn't know who she was.
was until she's like oh I was within the Mormons and I'm a lesbian and we were in a thruple
and they cheat on me as like she's like one of the original like lifestyle girls like I didn't
remember her like a Bethany Moda um who else was Amanda Steele no idea yeah none of them literally not
one of those people I know where are they now are they all Mormons no oh they're just lifestyle
just lifestyle girls yeah religious lifestyle girls though you weren't into religious lifestyle
girl. No, I didn't really know how religious
they were until like they got, a lot of them
got older and then went really extreme
into like religion. That's where they
lose people. Like they go to the extreme of
anything. It's like it's one thing to like love, you know,
go extreme, but when people are going online and
something's a little crazy. Yeah.
Some of them got like really extreme with it.
But, um, yeah,
Aspen, I would be intrigued by because I don't know, just from like seeing her
as a, I just remember her as a teenage
YouTuber. So, yeah.
She made a lot of money. She's like living in Manhattan Beach or
something or one of the beach cities that looks bougie yeah well you know those lifestyle
girls back in the day that's when ad sense was popping brain deals were popping so you could
really make a bag back in the day where are they now lifestyle girly editions we need to know
batting in bethany moda was on dancing with the stars wasn't she yeah she was really good but that
was a while ago that was a long time ago or something i forgot about that me suddenly caring about
dancing with the stars all because of the Mormon wise i can't wait to see who's on this season
you know it's gonna be friggin three more Mormon wife taylor freaky pa Jesse was just
practicing. She was with Sasha. She did
she was in rehearsals with him. Well,
Sasha always wants rehearsed with that. He said to me too,
he's like, do you want to dance together? I was like, just now?
Just without the show?
I love him. He DM me. He's like, do you ever want
to do a dance? I was like, I mean,
that does sound fun. Watch, when Jesse ends up
getting it instead of you, it's because
well, I think Sasha's just trying to get on there because he's not
always a pro every year. So I think he's trying
because even after last year when they announced the cast
and everything and obviously I wasn't on and Ezra had a partner
or whatever. He's like, have you heard anything from
casting? I think he was trying to get us on.
I love that.
I love it because it's so random.
I was like, why is he commenting?
You got to take a page out of Miley Cyrus's book.
Just start promoting dancing with the stars as if you're on it.
I did it last year.
DMZ is like, I'm going to be on a show this fall.
It didn't work.
That's okay.
I wasn't a show.
I was in Beetlejuice, so I just got to keep, I'll just keep manifesting.
I am.
Yeah.
I think it has to happen.
The lead casting person who sent a DM to me.
It was just like, your name keeps popping up.
But I was like, well, cast me.
Like, it is, you know, at this point, it's a little insulting.
I haven't been cast it.
When I saw the two Mormon wives, I was like, really love them.
They're stars, of course.
But I feel like I should be on.
It is crazy.
I mean, when you see Andy Richter and then it's like.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm like, how can I, how, how has this not happened?
Timing.
I'm going to believe it's all timing that I'm going to win.
I would never won against Robert Irwin or Alex Earl.
Maybe this season, whoever it is.
The book, the book is going to make it happen.
Maybe.
Everybody wants that Iona.
Is that our name?
The Olympic athlete.
Oh, Alona.
Alona.
Yeah.
May her.
Yeah.
I love her.
She is a key.
She's on TikTok.
I think she has a podcast now.
Love that.
Yeah.
Yeah, she is a key.
Yeah.
Always an Olympian gets on there.
So I feel like she has a great personality.
She'd probably win then.
Maybe not her.
She's like really athletic.
Yeah.
They didn't bring no athletes on my season.
At least no dancers.
That's always the worst when they have like a former pop star or someone that's just like when
when Normani is on dancing with a star is like, how the hell am I going to compete with
I heard Mia might be on.
Oh, might wrap it up, everybody.
Jesus Christ.
I was like, oh, I don't think I could compete with that.
That's kind of like unfair, right?
It's unfair, yeah.
I recently saw the property brothers and he told me he was like fourth on dancing with
the star is like, but it wasn't fair because I think he was on the DiMio, Charlie
Demilio season and stuff.
And he's like, she's a dancer.
And I was like, yeah, that's true.
He was bumped.
He didn't win.
Yeah.
God.
If Jen was on a season with a dancer, that would it was.
Yeah.
She probably said would have been more mad at Whitney, actually.
That's true.
She was just like, it's your fault.
Like, no, I don't think so it's like you said, Andy Richter.
Talk to his fans.
Who are his fans?
I love them.
The fan.
That's not real.
Made that up.
Did you see poor Barry Keogh.
I kind of felt bad.
He did an interview where he talked about how he got made fun of so much for how he looks that he no longer wants to go outside.
Honestly, I don't feel bad for him.
I do feel bad for him.
No, he cheated on Sabrina allegedly.
It's always the ugly ones.
stay inside
stop cheating
we're doing the world of favor
I don't I don't feel bad for him
but can't hear a tone and
no no stop cheating
you'll be less ugly how about that
allegedly I feel for I don't know
I do feel bad also because he's playing
he's in his Beatles biopic and
the hair that they have for
these actors I'm like damn I'm not doing him
any favors yeah he does look like
who's it Ringo yeah you're not
to look good playing Ringo.
Ringo's got swag.
He doesn't.
You know what I mean?
Like, Barry's got nothing going for him.
I think he just got such a big head with dating Sabrina.
He's like, oh, everyone wants me.
I'm so hot.
And it's like, no.
You know, he had to be humbled in a non-ph-physical way.
Is he?
Because it was saltburn.
Like, everyone was obsessed with saltburn.
His penis.
And, oh, I forgot about that.
Yeah.
And I was like, okay.
And then her being like, ooh, it's so hot, bed cam.
Yeah, all the song.
So it's okay if some people call too ugly
You're being a little dramatic
It's like I don't want to go outside
That's true because girls are having to deal with that all the time
Look at McKeeley
Yeah, exactly
You know what?
Actually, you've split me
You flip me
Exactly, yeah, don't feel bad for him
When you said that, I was like, what?
No, you're fine
You can take a couple of ugly
Look at chapel, yeah
Yeah, exactly
You know what, you did
You influenced me really quick
Yeah, because I did feel bad for him
Because I'm like damn
People are being a little bit too harsh
But girls do be getting it worse
Huh?
And are still expected to go out
and show out.
Always.
Oh, she got fat.
She's this.
It's like,
they call Addison Ray fat.
Like, oh, look at her tummy.
That's crazy.
Like, literally like a perfect body.
I'm like, people are just so.
I'm sure Barry Yogan probably would call her fat.
He's seen someone who's a fatphobic in my opinion,
based on no context,
but I do think he's probably fatphobic in my mind.
So I don't feel bad.
That's true.
Have you seen him with a fat person?
Yeah.
No, we haven't.
So by that.
You're fatphobic.
And we don't like you for that reason.
I don't know.
He gives me an ick.
He gives me an ick.
Nick and it's fine. Honestly, it's
fine if you're ugly too, by the way, because it's like
that's the reason you're casted. You know, like, that's
why you get to be the ugly person extra japanip
or the ugly beetle. You know what I mean?
Like, that's your look and that's it. Go with it.
It's like, you know, you do what you dealt with,
you know? I'm not going to be mad because I'm not
being casted as like a hot, sinny
sweet-sweeney type in euphoria. It's like you're
a fat person and that's what you're casted as and that's fine.
Honestly, it's kind of everything to
be casted as that. You're more niche.
Also, she warned him not to
embarrass her. Yeah, I'm like, what did you
Yeah, inside for life.
Hunchback Mountain.
He'd be good in that one.
He looks, he gets hunchback vibes.
He's crazy.
Any thoughts on Pierre Huyogen Pace?
I think he's lucky to be playing one of the Beatles in a movie that will be, you know,
those movies lives forever.
So he's lucky.
Oh, but anything personal about him.
I don't know him.
Okay.
Love that.
You know.
I know him.
I don't know him either.
but I'm going to just assume based on nothing.
And I love doing that.
That's my favorite game to be with people.
This might be an unpopular opinion,
but do we really need all those Beatles movies?
I'm kind of like...
Is there multiple?
Each beetle gets their own and then they come back.
Then they all come like Marvel.
Like it's...
No, we don't need the Avengers of 1964.
Like, what?
They're all getting their own and then they unite in like a movie together.
No, absolutely not.
No, no, no disrespect, but no.
That's weird.
I think we get the gist in one
by Epic, which I love and I'm there for.
No. You seated?
I wonder, like, I'm the opposite.
Probably they analyzed the market and it was like,
this is our last chance to do it before their fans die off.
Oh, God.
Not to be that person, but I do think the fans have died off.
They premiered in 1964.
I don't think there's any of them still living.
No, they're like my uncle George or my dad or something,
but even on the young end of that.
My dad was born in 1958, so he's six when the Beatles premiered.
Like, I think most of them are...
They'll be in their 60s to 80s.
I think there's people like...
like who inherit the love for the Beatles like but I don't think there's not like a demand for them
but it's kind of it's a kind of movie that will live forever will go on netflix will be sold you know
like they'll make their money one movie but yeah it's a lot but
there's not there really hasn't been like a Beatles like a john lennon movie i guess which i'm kind
of surprised because he's pretty there has oh right um yeah that young kid with uh the director
that we're dating oh what who what
He played John Lennon.
Ooh.
The one you know, the older lady with the hot young guy.
Well, now he's older.
It's almost 10 years ago.
Was it Nowhere Boy in 2009?
No, it's that one who's dating that old lady and everyone's like,
D'Arian and Grande next.
Aaron Taylor Johnson?
Yeah.
What?
He played John Lennon.
He did?
Yeah.
And I want to say Jared Letto played the shooter.
She was directing him.
That was the movie, but he was so young back then, no?
Mm-hmm.
What?
Is it real?
Groc.
Kroku.
Groku.
Oh, he, okay.
Oh, was he in Nowhere Boy?
Yeah.
Oh, it was Nowhere Boy.
Starring Aaron Taylor Johnson.
He played John Lennon in it.
Yeah.
And is Jared Lennon in it?
Jared Lidtow gained a bunch of weight to play John Lennon's assassinate or the killer.
I forgot his name.
But I remember the assassin's name was.
Oh, God.
John Lennon killer, Jared Lotto.
I don't know.
And Jared Lotto looks crazy.
That was chapter 27.
That came out in 2007.
And what's the name of the guy?
Mark David Chapman.
No idea.
But did you see Jared Lotto?
He made him, he's fat, right?
Yes.
They did a whole movie about the killer or not?
Yes.
I guess as we said, the POV of the villain, I suppose.
But I don't know if we need doing that.
I don't know.
What do people do that?
I'm like, I don't know if we need to empathize.
I think when it's fictional villains, I think that's one thing.
But like, you know, Maleficent, like, whatever.
I was going to say, like, Monster or Charlie's there.
And it's like, I think we sympathize with her a little bit.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because she was assaulted by a lot of them.
Yeah, so you can kind of understand that.
But even Gypsy Rose, I mean, she's a little cuckoo now,
but it's like, you know, you understand it a little bit.
So, yeah, you have a little empathy.
Menendez brothers, for instance.
Yeah.
I suppose people empathize with.
But, um, that is crazy.
They haven't had one.
Well, I like Paul McCartney a lot.
You do?
I do.
I do.
What about them?
I like their songs.
I can sing 5,000.
And Bill songs.
Yeah, I'm a big fan.
When I found myself in times of trouble, Mother Mayor.
And then, hey, got no flat top.
Peacom.
Moving up slowly.
And I want to hold your head.
Here comes the sun.
Strawberry fields for a hey, Jew.
I feel like you know these songs because there was a commercial that was advertising.
Because the order you're seeing them, I think, was the same as this commercial.
I swear to God.
What commercial is died?
I remember as a kid, there would be like,
order now the Beatles greatest hits.
And with songs such as, like it was a compilation album, like now that's...
Now you go.
I feel like that was the order of the commercial.
I swear to God.
We all live in a yellow cell.
I swear to God, because you're also singing the same amount that's in the commercial.
Penny Lane is in my ear.
Can you sing more than what you're seeing?
I can sing the whole song.
When I find myself...
No, that's not one.
That's more obscure.
Hey, dude.
Don't make it bad.
Take a...
song and make it better remember to letter into your heart and then you can start to
make it better say say say what you want but don't play games with my election
I'm impressed with Michael Jackson right yeah all alone I sit home by the phone
wait by do you remember that one that's Beatles and Michael Jackson oh the two of them
together? Yeah, it was Paul McCartney. They did a lot.
Oh, yeah. I don't know that.
I did forget that I know a couple of Michael Jackson's songs.
Okay, let's hear him. They were wanting me. I know Billy Jeans, not my love.
Yeah. Or, I'm the one. The kid is not my son.
How do you know that one? That was a good one. It just came to me. That's a big one. That was with the glove. That was his like big one.
Okay, were. And then I remember it, I know beat it because there's another song that I've been listening.
too that references Michael
Jackson's beat it and I was like oh I remember that song
beat it like Eliangovic or
it's so random
it's a girl group flow shout out flow
okay they references you're like yeah because it's like
um
god what does it go it goes like basically
saying that like there's the guys like looking at photos
like they look so good that they're looking at photos of them
and then it's like MJ in bed beat it
like they're being off to the photos of them
because they look so sickening
Love that.
Oh, that's crazy.
I was trying to visualize it all, but I was like, okay.
One of a recent, something two, I think you only knew from Rihanna.
The Mama Say Mama Samo.
And I was like, okay, that's crazy.
That is a little crazy that you don't know more Michael.
Yeah, when I was, I showed that to Darien and he was gagged.
That's how I knew.
I was like, oh, I guess I'm really just, I'm culture when it comes to that.
Yeah, Michael Jackson is so, you know, right.
I think if I heard him, I would like recognize.
Kind of, yeah.
Off the top of my head, those are the only two I can think of.
I mean, I was a kid watching, like, when Billy Jean came out, the music video, when
he walks on the floor and it lights up.
Like, I remember as a kid, it was like, wow, what's this?
Was that in between your nature shows?
That's what you watch as a kid and you're like, I watched nature.
And I're like, oh, I watched the music videos.
There were only two channels.
You watch whatever they play.
So you had MTV in the Nature channel.
There was no MTV, but they would play music.
What?
MTV was 1981.
And Billy Jean came out like 1984.
We didn't have cables until I was in school.
So where were you watching Billy Jean?
They would just randomly play music sometimes.
They just had random music videos on there?
Yeah, you know, they'll have like a corner of like 10 minutes of music videos and then some news and then some...
But not MTV.
No, there was no cable.
When you have cable TV, you get MTV and all the channel.
I don't think of the music videos.
It doesn't go only on MTV.
Yeah, they were.
They were so exclusive.
Yes, tell us if you were in the 80s and where else music videos played.
That's why they had MTV.
But Europe and other countries.
We would get European music that you wouldn't get here.
But you weren't in Europe.
I'm saying Israel was getting music from all over
we'll get Arabic music from like Egypt and Jordan
like we'll get everything
What's some Arabic music you listen to?
Umcultum
Oh
Farid de la Trash
Okay I like those
I was waiting for a little bit
There is
There is right now
Well we can't play it here
We'll do it on Patreon
But there is right now
It's like rap battles
But in Arabic
Oh I like that
On TikTok
I do love that.
I love Arabic language.
I do think it's like really pretty.
And yeah.
So anyway, that's one of the things I watch on TikTok.
Versatile.
We'll play it on now.
Billie Jean was iconic.
It was one of the best music videos.
I love Michael Jackson.
We thought about, we were talking about Michael Jackson,
Limb Day and the name MJ, obviously my Blonde Sondel for MJ.
And we thought about for Aquaman.
We thought about the name MJ.
We were going to name Moses Jr.
Oh.
And then my channel, Blond Sondel for M.J, would have been a manifestation,
which would have been wonderful.
Wonderful, but...
The movie poster thing.
Is that why?
Well, now there will be one.
Yeah, now there's a Michael Jackson.
That's true.
Yeah, but you said it had to be the exact thing.
It does have to be.
Well, I made that up after because, like, Barbie,
technically is not Malibu Barbie.
Gagget, you're so right.
Yeah, I know.
So I kind of just made that up later,
but I kind of like that we had movie posters.
With the Aquaman one,
it's not, every time people come to our house,
like, where's the Aquaman one?
I'm like, we have it.
It's like with all the sharks.
It's just hidden, I guess I'm where we had to post that.
But, um...
See, I would have thought about MJ, like Zendaya's character in, but in Spider-Man.
Oh, that's a good name.
I do love the name of MJ.
There's another MJ.
Oh.
Kat Stickler's daughter on TikTok is named MJ.
Oh.
I do like that name, actually.
M.J's good.
I think the boy from Desperousewives's name is MJ,
the one that Susan has with Mike Delphino.
Did you watch Desperousewives?
No, which I know that seems like such a me show.
Oh, my.
And I should probably...
I could do a whole podcast on Desperousewives.
That show.
I've never felt more about a show than I do.
Even now, I watch clips all the time.
I feel so strongly about that show.
I think that show is so good.
It does seem like such a me show.
Oh, you would.
It's truly, of all the TV shows,
it's the best show ever made.
Like, 100% of the best show ever made.
I think I would go back and watch it, actually.
You have to.
It's so crazy.
The women are so fancy and, like, the men are all awful,
but they get what's coming to him because it's fictional.
Like, every guy is dying.
Like, they all get killed in some crazy way.
Like, it's such a good show.
Oh, my God.
I love it so much.
Bring it back.
Smart Cherry's still alive?
He created the show.
Remember him?
Him and Nicole Sheridan got in a fight so she killed her off in season 5.
Oh, spoiler alert.
Oh, 40 years old or some 30 years old.
I don't know when.
Such a good show.
Okay, so you're not seed for the Beatles.
Well, who else is in it?
Paul Maskell is...
He's Paul McCartney.
The guy from Stranger Things is George Harrison.
Who's playing John Lennon?
Okay, Joseph Quinn, George Harrison.
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Barr, Barry Kilgan, Paul McCartney, Paul Meskell, John Lennon,
is Harris Dickinson from the Iron Claw.
You loved the Iron Claw when it was on.
I did.
Which one was he?
Not Zach Efron, so I guess the other one.
I know.
I would love to see Zach Efron.
John Lennon.
That would be everything.
Oh.
Is he one of the brothers?
Does he look familiar?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
You know what?
I'm kind of seated for this movie.
They're kind of all good after.
Not you host in the red carpet for all five release movies.
Call me.
Yeah, honestly, I'll be at all five.
I am seated.
He's not going to come out of his house, so it's fine.
Oh, true.
You don't have to interview.
Oh, you know me on the right carpet.
Barry, you look so good.
Me when Ethan Slater came up, I was like, oh.
No, I know what?
I love everybody.
It's all just for entertainment for me.
I know I don't get about.
They're all nice.
They're all fine.
It's all for laughs, everybody.
It's all for entertainment.
You're all I'm dead.
Objectively, we shouldn't use the word ugly as a bad thing.
Just call people what they are.
Fat, ugly.
I'm handsome.
I mean, no, I'm just saying ugly's fine.
It shouldn't be offensive.
Oh, I see.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Why is everyone so offended by our.
everything. Oh, he called me ugly. Okay. You are. You're fat. Okay, you are. Like, I don't know.
There's nothing wrong with it. I take the power back. You know what I mean?
I always think of the foosy tube where, like, people said that I was dumb and fat. They called me gay.
And the gasp. I did love that. Because I wasn't even fat. He says something people call me dumb.
They didn't think I could do it. I didn't have this straight. They called me all the names. They called me gay.
Like, okay.
Is that the Shorty Awards or a streaming award?
One of those fake words.
One of the fake ones.
Streamies.
More movie news.
I just, you saw the Mawanna trailer?
I have to talk about the Rock's wig.
What is going on in the wig department at Disney?
You guys, what is going on there?
People really came for him.
I thought he looked good.
He threw that wig up in the air, ran under it.
No.
And you got on that boat.
You are a wig hater.
Because also told me my wig person, my wig expert,
is like the Hannah Montana wig was so good.
Like Oscar doesn't know.
The pilot, Tony, no.
I love your work, Tony.
I love your work.
But that first wig on that little girl
looked crazy.
He said an eight and it did.
And same thing with the Rock's wig.
Like it looks.
Did he say the Rock's wig eight?
Well, I don't know. I didn't get an opinion on this.
I love.
I feel like even Tony would have to do something.
It was good.
I think the Internet once again just loves to come and like whatever.
It looked good.
It looked like his hair.
He looked good.
I think people were so used to see the Rock Ball.
So they're just like, what is this?
I thought he looked great.
I'm looking at still images right now.
And I luckily have these new glasses that really help me clock details up close.
And it looks a mess.
What's a mess about it?
It looks so stiff.
First of all, he's supposed to be on a boat in the open ocean.
Why is the hair laid so perfectly?
Not even a little frizz.
Like, put a little sea salt spray in there.
Okay.
It's given some.
It's giving some.
It looks like it was pulled out of the bag.
just a little like a little shake and a little go and I love a shake and go I've worn many a shake and go on this very program
that's your next wig look but the budget here is a little different than the budget for moana the live action
like that is crazy no shade to disney like we want to be at the marathon at Disneyland like we want to
we want to be at the premiere for marijuana I'm sure but the wig and also the lighting but the wig is
crazy I thought he looked great I think people love to hate I don't even like the rock and I'm like he looks good
He looks good.
He is Maui, obviously.
So what?
No, ma'am.
Is he wearing a fat suit or is that just his body?
Not that he's fat, but is he wearing a suit to make him bigger?
That is a good question.
I think it is a suit because the tattoos aren't real.
Okay, okay.
Because I was like, damn, he's pretty huge.
Yeah, you always been.
I think when.
Because I remember when they were filming the movies and pictures came out and he was working out.
And he was working out.
People were coming from back in those early photos, too.
They were not.
I think they're just.
But the way, I mean, it's.
I think it's fine.
It's not that it's the wrong hairstyle.
Yeah, it's giving Fabio.
Like when you know, yeah, exactly.
And less like island.
It's too curly too long and instead of being a bit shorter and bigger.
Like Maui.
Like there is a reference.
Yes.
I think it is too.
It's giving too wavy to like romance novel cover.
Maybe that.
Maui is a round facing animation.
His face is long and narrow.
So with that hair, it looks more like a, it looks to drag rather than it.
It does like.
It does give like.
makeover challenge in drag race or something.
Yeah, he did wear a muscle suit for the movie.
Oh, he did, okay.
Yeah.
You know, I guess he's a star and that's why.
I guess I would have liked to maybe have seen someone maybe unknown,
but I guess you need a draw because Moana is an unknown,
so I guess you need a draw.
I mean, people love the rock.
I don't think, look at Lilow and Stitch.
Like, that made a billion dollars and Stitch was a star.
You know, it's just because the character is so, like, iconic.
So I don't even think you needed the rock.
And, I mean, it made sense to have, like, a younger actress
instead of Alai Kravallo, who is the voice of Moana.
And she is like a producer on it, so she was still involved.
And she didn't want, she didn't want to.
Yeah, she didn't want to, yeah.
To give the opportunity to a different girl.
I think the rock should also have someone, let someone else.
Oh, you do.
Okay.
I kind of agree.
I think he is the original voice and he is such a draw.
And like, like, I get it.
I would have loved to see in someone that looks a little more like Maui, like younger.
Like I get it.
It's not a human.
He's a god.
But like someone younger, a little more fuller.
I just think there's a lot of like when Moanian,
comes out, you know, right, you see a lot of people from just like different islands because right,
Moana's like a whole like it can be from Samoa, it can be from anywhere.
And I think there's so many people who maybe give off a better Maui than him.
Because he is very, he's older.
He's a little more chiseled.
He's a little more like, you know, just older.
And I think there's probably, I don't know it would have been good.
Yeah.
The Rock feels.
You know his age in times.
Yeah.
I feel like a fresh.
And also it's kind of like when they said like they didn't cast Harry Styles as Elvis because you just see
Harry Styles as Elvis.
It's kind of giving the Rock as Maui.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I get it.
I guess, like, you know, someone offers it to you.
It's kind of, it's giving Ben Platt and, like, DeRavenance and everyone's like,
he's too old, but I was like, well, he was during the role and he got offered it,
so I guess you're going to take it, but I would have liked to see him someone else too.
But, I mean, it's going to be good.
They should have put Bretman Walk somewhere in there because I do think, like, he campaigned so hard for Hey, Hey,
like he wanted to be the chicken.
Oh, I did not know that.
He was, like, really campaigning hard, and I think he's, like, is so influential on people
to see it.
Even if it is, like, a smaller part, I think he would have been so good.
also has gray hair.
Too small to play Maui,
but would have been...
Tea!
I didn't even know that he was campaigning
because now,
yeah,
that would actually be so gaggy.
Yeah,
because he was in,
like,
his little farm
with all his,
like, chickens and stuff
like talking about it.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I would have lived.
Maybe I have a cameo on it,
but he was, yeah,
he was hardcore for Moana.
So I think, yeah,
unknown,
people like to have an unknown,
I think that would have been...
But even the actress
who plays Moana,
like,
her natural hair is curlier than the hair,
that's styled for her as
Mawanna. Oh, they gave her a wig? I think they just
gave her like a blowout so her hair is like
straighter but her natural hair is
curlier and it looks more like the animated
version. That's so weird why they would do that. I know. I think
people are saying it's probably because the green screen
with like the curls and the texture would
probably be harder to like make sure
the green screen was unclothable. Oh, interesting.
Oh, because you're right, yeah.
It's a lot of green screen mama. I'm worried for this film. That's true.
Well, I think it'll like
do well. The trailer was good.
I liked it too
I did
We're Mijuana fans over here
There's the demographic
My kids loved it
My three year old is like
I want to see this
She does get excited
Honestly I think with kids
I mean she's very young
So like she doesn't know
Maybe kids are more hard of critic
But she was gay for it
She was seated
She wants to rewatched the trailer
So
Yeah I don't know
I think it's
I think it'll do well
I think it'll still do well
But I feel like people
Will be really hard on it
And they gave
Authentic to like
The casting
You know what I mean
like it was giving, which is good.
And I think people appreciate that.
It's not like they're giving it to Zach Efron or something.
I don't know.
I don't know who else would be up for it, but I think that's an important thing.
McKenna, or as Malana.
Yeah, at least it's, you know, giving authentic.
Your lemon while Miranda's going to be in it.
He always has a little cameo and stuff that he does.
I don't know.
Wasn't he supposed to, what do he do?
music for it or no oh moana too he didn't even do them they didn't even bring him back to do the music
for it oh why i don't know i think he was busy was that it they just okay how do you know that because i
remember i remember he said he was just too busy to do it what was he was he was doing was he was he was
doing in condo maybe no i don't know i'm just made that up he's busy i know he is busy i'm not saying he's
was just saying how do you know that i love that because i remember back then i was like we talked
about it probably money probably was enough money for him he's probably like i wrote the big hits you guys
Moana 2 was not as good as Moana.
Not as catchy anyways.
Yeah, the music wasn't as good.
And then the other media news I have is they released the first look at the Harry Potter HBO series.
Oh.
How do we like it?
He's so excited.
I know.
I just have such mixed feelings about it because like...
You love Harry Potter.
I don't even...
I do.
You don't love him?
I watch them all and I read all the books like growing up.
But my attachment to it isn't as fierce as like Twilight or Hulk.
Hunger Games. Like, out of all the franchises, like the Y.A. Franchises, I would say Hunger
Game is my number one. Twilight, a close second. Wow. Harry Potter weighs down as a third,
like not even super close. Harry Potter was always my number one. Like I, I, like, loved Harry Potter
as a kid. I love the books. I love the movies. I remember sending in my casting tape to be,
I know it's problematic, but I didn't know at the time, Cho Chang. I really, because Harry liked her, right?
and gobble it of fire.
And she was loved by Cedric and Harry.
And I was like, oh, I would love to be her.
I envisioned myself.
I would act it out at home.
Did not know she was.
Did she did your self tape or?
I did a self tape.
I would give anything.
I wish, I don't know if my mom hasn't threw away, whatever.
But I did a self tape on a VHS and sent it over to Harry Potter in England.
Like I literally sent it to, I know I looked up like casting because I knew the how they were
casting extras.
And I was like, I'm available.
I'm in London.
Like I did a whole thing.
Wait, I'm in bailable.
I'm in London.
Yeah, I said I was London-based.
No.
But my dad flew me over once before to see Michael Jackson, actually.
And I was like, oh, I could maybe go over there again if I get this.
I told my dad I audition.
Like, it was a whole thing.
You might have to do an agenda.
And I mean, by the way, this was an unsolicited casting tape.
They did not get me sides.
I literally just acted out scenes from the book.
And I did not know.
I did not know she was supposed to be Asian.
But, yeah, full circle.
I wanted to be her so bad.
And when I saw they announced a casting for her, I remember, like, oh, no.
That would have been the dream role.
She was desired by all those men, you know, boys, I guess.
And even in the movie, when I saw Godwada fires my favorite book and favorite movie.
And I remember seeing it.
It is mine, too.
It's so good.
And just, like, the movie really just brought it to life, like, when she's down there.
And Harry thinks he's supposed to go save her.
But it was actually Cedric.
So I was like, oh, my God.
Who did he save?
Who did Harry save?
Was it Ron?
I think so, right?
That's crazy.
So like, Hermione's down there for the Russian guy.
And then Cho Chang's down there for the other one.
The sister's there for the other one.
And then Ron's there for Harry?
I'm going to let you drown.
You know what I mean?
Like, I wouldn't be there for it.
Why is Ronald Weasley catching strays?
I don't know.
He has always was a little annoying, huh?
He's a little whiny.
I loved Harry Potter.
I loved Harry Potter.
Like, that's one makes me so sad about J.K. Rowling.
I mean, we used to go to like Universal.
I'd get everyone outfits based on their house.
Do you remember what house you word, Moses?
The green.
The snakes.
The green is crazy.
What's it called?
Slythering.
Wow.
Who's the headmaster over there?
You know.
The only names I know is like Malfoy or Mell.
Oh, he was a Slyan, yeah.
He's my competition tonight at the I-Heart Radio full circle.
Red hair and hand me down robes.
You must be a wiesling.
I love.
I've cosplayed as Draco a bunch of times.
He's still over there right now performing so and Curst Child.
So I think he's not going to be available tonight.
Maybe we used to make TikToks to the sound.
Which one?
The guy that is on top of, like the, he passed away, I think.
Yes, Snape.
Oh, Snape, yes, Professor Snape.
Do you remember?
Oh, man.
It's like, do you?
It sounds like, obviously.
Obviously.
I forgot that one too.
But yeah, you were a Snape.
You did dress up with him.
I love it.
You didn't even know who it was.
What house are you?
Haufflepuff.
See, I give inauthenticity because anytime I would do the quizzes or whatever, like I love snakes obviously.
So I would like, I would kind of just trick it.
Yeah, I would steer towards.
Like I'm a slither.
Yeah.
So I don't know what I would actually be.
You give Hufflepuff.
I was going to say maybe Ravenclaw because they read books, right?
I loved Ravenclaw because Cho Chang was Ravenclaw.
I was like, oh, I want to be her.
So I was always Ravenclaw too.
And I do like the blue of Ravenclaw.
Yeah.
I was really wrong.
So I aesthetically, I'd want to choose
Slytherin, I guess.
Also, like, I love being, you know, like, it's kind of fun.
Yeah.
It'd be a c-off in the Slytheran dorms, so sure.
Me versus the evil little girls, I'd be like,
girl, it's a reading, the reading challenge is on.
That'd be everything, actually.
And I would be reading, yeah, me and Joey Ristaffa reading each other in the Slytheran dorms.
Was he into Harry Potter?
I'm sure he was.
That's not give him Joey vibes.
It does, but I don't remember, like, a cosplay of Harry.
He loved Hunger Games, too.
He was Hunger Games.
I feel like...
Your generation seemed to like Hunger Games more
and my generation definitely was Harry Potter
because I'm the same age as like Daniel Ratcliffe
so that kind of makes sense that we'd be like...
I mean, I love...
Like, I remember reading the books
and going to like the midnight book
things at Barnes & Noble.
Oh my God.
Like my mom would take me
and I remember like seeing all the movies.
I remember literally the exact theater
where I saw the first and second movies.
Wow.
I mean, I just Googled Joe Gersetheff at Harry Potter
and he does cosplay a lot.
Does he?
Yeah.
Who's he been?
I mean, he just wears the robes.
So I guess he's joined Christopher after Gryffindor.
He's trying to also be cast in those movies.
I mean, if Zoella and her brother could be in them, I guess you guys could have technically
been in them too.
This is one I definitely, just like I cannot support.
I just feel like, oh, just openly transphobic time and time again.
And the creator is the books, right?
Like, I feel like people are like, oh, let's separate it from there.
But she's so heavily involved.
And she's involved in the show, too.
Very involved, problematic, and I just, you just can't, can't support it.
And it sucks.
I really love it.
I had so much merch.
I had so much, like, I love them.
And it's just like really, really sucks.
It was like my love for Woody Allen, too.
It's like, you just have to stop watching those movies.
It's like, damn, I can't even appreciate them anymore because it's like awful.
We'll see how.
I'm sure it'll end up, this is to be a little cynical, but I'm sure it'll end up doing well because I feel like usually.
Yeah.
I mean, same for Scream.
Like, so all I saw was so many people saying they weren't going to see Scream.
But it made the most money out of all the screams.
It's just people I don't care.
Like you said, there's like there's the feminist, woke, liberal people with morals and then the rest of the world.
Because Harry Potter is like so much about like, you know, the disenfranchised and like the underdog and stuff.
Yeah.
But yeah.
The comments are all very positive so far in the on the trailer.
It comes out Christmas 2026.
I guess people are saying it has like a lot of the details from the books that they're looking for it.
They do have like eight hours instead of two.
So obviously they're going to be putting the little things in there.
But aesthetically, it looks so similar that I'm like, like the sets look the same.
Oh.
The, it all just looks so similar.
20 years later, everything gets recycled.
I saw they're doing a 13 going at 30 and I was like, didn't that movie just come out?
I feel like that's new.
I know.
From Netflix.
Jennifer Garner still alive.
Mark Ruffalo still making movies.
Like, I don't understand why they're redoing these things.
I know.
No original ideas.
I know.
that's why like for Hannah Montana
I'm kind of glad she just did the special
and not like a reboot or like a spin off
like her having a daughter who's a pop star
because I feel like that's what everyone does
I guess people like it like the Ravens Home one
got like five seasons or something so I guess people
Wizards has another
season coming too with
all right I guess people just like it I guess they know
like people want to reboot
I guess but I just love I guess I guess I guess
I guess I got with original material I just like that
I know I would gag if Miley did
music. Like if she did another album, that's like half Hannah Montana, half Miley Cyrus.
I would be probably the most gag I've ever been in my life because I love Hannah Montana's music.
I like them both. But the formative album for me was Hannah Montana to meet Miley Cyrus. It was a gag.
Because you flip it over and it's Miley. Then you flip it back and it's Hannah.
You still have it? Probably in my garage. I probably still have it. And that was that was a gag.
And also the discography was fierce. Like there is it's unskippable. I dare say it's one of the
formative unskippable album.
of my
of my generation.
What song for Miley was the best one?
I love to start all over.
See you again.
That's on the Miley side.
Oh, I think I know those songs.
Yeah.
My best friend Leslie said,
oh, she's just being Miley.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
That's iconic.
That's iconic.
On Hannah Montana,
that's the one that had nobody's perfect.
But I love Rockstar,
and that's also Tar yummy's favorite song,
Rockstar.
Yeah.
Oh, blue jeans.
I mean, I'm with you.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Love this.
And I love everyone.
I do love when people are just passionate about something, even if I don't get it.
I want to get it because it does look so fun.
But you know, you can't force hyper fixations.
That's what I've learned.
That is very true.
You know, you know you want to sometimes.
You're like, God, I really want to be into this and you just can't.
And it was kind of getting heated rivalry.
Like, I really wanted to be into it.
And I liked it.
It was good.
I just couldn't get into like the fandom of it all.
But I understand it.
And I like that people are passionate about it.
I am like a bystander of heated rivalry.
I like the actors a lot.
I think they're really fun and talented and like,
I think Hudson Williams is like really funny because he's kind of like a troll.
Yeah.
But the show.
I did buy the book even because I'm like, let me really get into this tea.
Not into it.
Yeah.
I think for me also like I feel a little like, oh, just everyone's so hot.
Hot and gray.
Oh.
That's me like like like Louuna Beach is doing a reunion.
I'm like, I never got into it because I think it was the hills I never got into
because I was probably just like wanted to be them.
They were skinny and living in L.A.
And I was like they'll never be me.
So I'm not going to watch this.
So I feel the same.
Yeah.
Anyone seen it for Laguna Beach, Rhenianianian.
I was thinking that too
I was like especially right now there's a lot going on
we got Hannah Montana
there's like a lot in pop culture right now
if it was slow maybe
and it's on the Roku channel of all things
Oh
we love you Roku in case you want to pick up my movie
But yeah that's the sign of the times
But like a talon who's looking for his updates
You know what I mean?
Is that his name Tallon?
I just saw some random person like
Talon and I was like
Who the fuck is this?
Looking at me is also very formative
me but even for me as someone who lived for i literally had every DVD like i had the box
set of every season i would watch it like just on repeat that's how much i loved it and i would
talk like them and let's hear you're looking at beach well my favorite scene that i remember
forever and this was my password for the longest time from like eighth grade to like high
school when Kristen goes you guys my car is like dunzo and like she doesn't have to fix it
she was so annoying with that too they were annoying that with a dog
I live.
Do you ever, I remember the scene where they were going to make dinner?
Do you remember that where they're going to buy the recipes?
And they were talking sell like, oh my God, like Jessica.
Like you got, no, we're going to like totally do that tonight.
Like I hated the wage dog.
Hated it and I can't get past.
You know, my adopted all those matters.
Did you say Denzzo?
Yes, my password forever was Dunzo.
Like for everything.
Never got hacked, surprisingly.
My My space, I don't know.
I guess someone could hack it.
I don't remember the email.
That is, I hated it.
I hated it.
Remember they got like a little like they got literally like two strips of chicken.
for the pasta.
And it was like,
they were making
some weird fatacini.
I was like,
do you have cooked?
I love that you remember that.
Well,
I guess I've seen clips.
I never watched the show,
but I would see clips.
And I'm like,
this show is so weird.
Or the extensions,
they were getting extensions from prom.
And it's just like.
I remember eighth grade.
Like,
the girls and I would sit at recess
off,
like the day after it aired on MTV.
Like literally recessed like 9 a.m.
We would sit like on the stairs
and we would be like,
so what did you guys think,
honey?
It was like.
That's so funny.
I don't know.
We're gonna comeo.
I need some bikinis.
I just remember.
Me and the girls were disgusting,
having intellectual discussions.
Me, Claudia, Nicole.
We were all, we were sitting there.
I remember the group.
Katrina was in there.
Wow, we were a lot of friends.
I know exactly where we sat
like on the stairs in front of the classroom
and we would sit there and we would debrief
because we would have to discuss.
I guess you were close to Laguna Beach.
You're kind of like, oh, it's our area.
Kind of, yeah.
It seemed so far away.
The hills was closer, but yeah.
That's true.
You're like, oh, I know that area.
That's spot.
In high school, I would be.
be like, I want to go to fit him.
Don't care about style.
Oh, because of the show.
Yeah.
Do you ever watch the Valley now?
There's a valley?
It's like a spinoff of like Vanderpump rules.
I want to say like Jacks.
He opened a bar in like North Hollywood, I think.
Who the hell wants to watch that show?
Nobody wants to watch that.
Is it still on?
Did you ever watch it?
I didn't watch it, no.
I'm so curious to know like what the hell is in North Hollywood that they're filming.
Love it.
Salt and beer.
His bar, I guess.
Oh, but they like lived.
They had a house there in the valley too.
I opened a bar there and that was...
Modern farmhouse.
What's the bar?
I have no idea.
Jacks is, I don't know.
He's awful.
I don't know anything about any of those people, but...
You should open your own bar.
You're on a restaurant here.
If you...
Why haven't you got into a restaurant tour?
I would love...
Well, I feel like that's hard to have a restaurant.
It's not an easy business.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
There's a little movie theater that we'd love that just closed down some priority bought it.
But it's like literally right here at the end of the street.
And it's like this old...
old movie theater. I wanted to buy it so bad and turn it's like a little cabaret, kind of like a
club cummings where it's just like me every night singing having a little cabaret moment.
I just remember now that you said that, you get you reminded me like Beyonce's mom, Miss Tina,
her restaurant just got shut down or something because they had the seafood. They left the seafood
out like shrimp or something. It was like in a freezer box like left outside and they just shut down
her restaurant. So it is hard. And then your name is on it. Yeah. Tricia's restaurant shut down for
mice or something. It's over. That would happen to me.
the mice. The mice are everywhere.
Just kidding. We know how mice anymore.
I think because we fixed our little roof now.
I feel like the mice are not coming in.
Stay outside, mice.
Don't come in here.
We would you rather have mice or lice.
Just because they're right.
Yeah.
Lice are awful, too.
Well, how many mice are you talking about?
Would you rather have mice constantly in and out of the house?
Or would you rather have lice?
Let's say mice in and out of the house six months of the year
or lice six months of the year.
Well, if you have mice for six months,
you're probably going to get lice after that.
Oh, like scabies or something.
Yeah, I think that's more.
No, yeah.
The mice don't bring lice in this scenario.
And do I see the mice or are they like up where I don't?
Maybe a little tail goes by.
Well, if you choose the mice, I don't want lice on the body.
I can fend myself from the mice.
I'll just build like.
Okay.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
I don't want anything on my body.
I had lice a couple times.
It's not too bad.
to shave your head.
But then it's, don't we have to, like, get rid of all your bedding or something?
Yeah.
Easy, peasy for you.
Easy, peasy for.
You have to take down the whole faux fur.
Oh, I don't think it's going to jump that far.
You're very close to it.
It would.
No, it's got to, like, live on hair.
Fofer is giving that.
It's not a living.
All the wigs you have.
Just getting rid of all those wings.
I did have to throw up my wig when I had it.
As a kid, I had an Annie wig, and everyone shared it.
And it gave life to everybody.
Was it ice or Annie?
You know what? Jimmy remind me to send you that photo.
There's one of me with the wig.
And I remember my cousins who come out here, they all shared it.
And they all got like lice from me.
And I was like, I'm so sorry.
And then we've had to throw it out.
And I loved it.
It was giving ice.
It was giving that.
Yeah, I was giving that ice spice up there.
We were so young in that photo.
The Dunkin Donuts was.
I was so full of life.
Oh, we were so happy.
Didn't have a lot going on at that time, right?
I think we talked about it.
Yeah.
Just this.
I remember because I would plan these outfits.
extravagant shoes, photo shoes, note cards.
I was like prepared every day.
We're like Frankie Pohl season one.
Yeah.
Yeah, but it's better even now.
We're doing more things.
We're grooving and shaking.
I think at that time, you would be, I think you literally told me once like, I know you're busier than me.
This is all I got going on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh.
Didn't it matter.
This is crazy.
It was so busy.
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
I know.
I think about that now where this is like, yeah, it's still a priority.
But it is one of the last things.
I think, yeah.
No, wow.
I think we only had Malibu at the time.
Oh my God.
We had so much time.
Let me show them what you guys are talking about.
Oh, yeah.
I was not even analyzing.
Wow.
Look how happy.
That looks so happy.
Wow.
Love.
That was a great time Moses made that.
It's so funny, actually, that necklace, the organizers were here.
And there was a trash pile, and Moses saw that.
necklace in the trash pile and took it out.
That used to be in the museum.
That's what I'm saying.
That's iconic.
That's handmade.
He's like, you can at least posh market.
No, not even posh.
I think it has to be in the museum.
It's so iconic.
Did you save it?
Yes.
I put it in the trash.
Moses was like, wait, this?
That is like.
There's a difference with things I made.
This is a piece of art work.
Maybe make a lot of things.
I don't keep out every single thing.
That's like one of the memes that has like lived on forever.
Really?
Yes.
Yeah.
I was impressed that you can make that.
That is very cool.
all right I just throw away everything
when there's an organizer I'm like take everything out
Moses is like micromanages
behind me he's like no not that like little like
toys I'm like we're so many toys like no the kids
want it I'm like we're never going to end up anything
but behind you should go look where we do our Patreon
well maybe we'll see if we do it down here
I don't know if we're going up or down but that whole thing
is cleared out wow yeah you can like walk to the printer now
that's major it took us like eight hours yesterday to do it
but we love her our organizer
can't want to organize the rest of our house can be so great
well anyways
I may come back Monday morning as an award show.
Award recipient.
It could go either way, huh?
Do you think that someone presenting it?
It probably won't, what did I mean?
It probably would be like before the word carpet.
Like, okay, you won the award?
Or you think there's a presenter.
I hope it's like, because that would be so fun.
I mean, if they know you're coming and if you do win,
then I feel like it would be so gaggy for you to be on the TV.
Because who?
I would love that.
Because I wonder, like, I mean, obviously they have Miley and Taylor,
but like who else is going to be there?
Just me.
I mean, when you look at the categories, there's only a few that are like all the famous people.
After that, it's like, you know, tour photographer things like.
Oh, I love that.
Those things are probably not going to be on TV.
Because I know Katzai was really going hard for tour photographer.
They're a tour photographer's nominee.
Really?
They were campaigning hard.
But they're in South America.
They're not going to be there.
The photographer might be.
That's true.
Yeah.
And this was one of the only fan photo.
There was three fan voted categories?
Or was there more?
How many categories?
No, there were a few.
Or they're all fan voted.
No the major ones that I saw I just don't know maybe they have other categories that were not listed because they're not for voting
But the voting you know it was like best song best music video best dance
Best um
Mustap I told you it's like bad bunny bad bunny
I wonder if he's gonna be there
Probably not if I would know Taylor Marley pretty big though so I'll take it
That is gaggy
Yeah, so funny clip is that
Where they are now?
somebody was like
What is it?
What is it?
What's happening?
That was in South America.
They're getting in the van to leave
and the fans are just yelling from outside.
And they said,
Say hi to me no.
And then Megan goes, she ducks.
Everyone are like,
Oh.
Do you have Oscars there though?
What did you say?
No, I said if that's what he meant,
but that's where they are.
It just ended.
They had like all those lollapaloozas
where like chapel is and everything
and Sabrina and Madison.
Yeah.
I think it just ended.
But I don't know if they came
back yet.
I'll
track them.
Or if they're there,
that'll be fierce.
If you see them again.
Catsai.
Hey, girls.
It's you and Taylor and Katzai.
Oh, I know all that.
And they know each other
because the choreographer
used to dance for Taylor.
It's a whole synchronicity.
Those are good girls.
I love it.
The kids girls.
And I feel like those are all people
that I like respect, but like not super
fans.
I could be cool.
You could be normal.
Yeah.
Good to see you again, Mama.
Oh, you look so good.
Taylor, you're serving.
Oh my God.
No, this is all me.
This is all mine.
I know.
I know.
I know it's this big red wig, but yeah, this is all mine.
I'm wearing red tomorrow.
Oh, I just saw a big red wig in there, so I assumed that was the one for tomorrow.
No.
Tanis had the same thing.
What is that for?
It was just an old wig I've had for so long.
That's so funny.
It looked like a-
That's crazy.
It looks like a special piece.
I was like, oh, it was on like a sparkling mannequin head.
I was like, oh, this must be the award look.
Was it?
Oh, but the flies and the Beatles.
The flies are coming out.
I hope.
I don't know.
I don't know if she had the memo.
There was flies on my outfit when I asked for Beatles.
And I was like, well, the Beatles were cute.
The flies.
Most of they didn't look bad.
Or no, you like the Beatles.
When I showed you the pants.
Both, but the flies didn't look bad.
But I was like, I don't know.
Flies.
Anyways, we'll see.
They blend well.
At the beginning, I thought they were like little plastic flies on your pants or something, you know.
That's kind of everything, though, too.
They looked still good.
Okay, you guys, well, that's it.
Oh, I hope you didn't take that package away.
I hope it's not that package.
The outfit.
Was that supposed to come?
Yeah.
In the mail?
Yeah.
Babe.
We'll figure that out.
Let's go make some dirty sodas.
We'll go make dirty sodas and play our influencer game.
I can't wait.
I'm really bad at this game.
I did this with Gigi on her podcast, too, the first episode.
I forgot about that.
Oh, my God.
It was so awful.
But honestly, both the artworks suck.
Like, she wasn't giving you many clues.
Like, it was a mess.
Yeah, it was a mess.
But I loved it.
So I can't wait to play it.
All right, guys.
We'll see you over on the Patreon.
Patreon.com slash Just Trish.
Remember, this is just for entertainment purposes.
Nothing is speaking in seriously.
no legal action required.
Love you,
bye.
