Just Trish - Influencers Are BETTING On Lindsay Clancy? + Alix Earle FINALLY Exposes Alex Cooper... | Just Trish
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I'm still kind of stand by that beef hindsight.
I remember he was, I was clearly so mentally ill.
And then he just, like, him and his girlfriend at the time was attacking me and called me trash.
And then I went off and I kind of stand by myself on that one.
Sometimes I have to look at old clubs.
I'm like, were you in the wrong?
We're in the right?
Yes, I think I like went a little crazy afterwards.
But he kind of pushed me.
And I was just like, hey, welcome to the Just Trish podcast.
You know, we survived Al-Nino.
And here we are just in the middle of a hurricane, just coming at you live.
We're all safe here.
Just kidding.
It just rained.
But, you know, people really cheat that rain.
Like, it's the end of the days.
But you look so cute in your little heart.
We had so much good banter, and we didn't get any of that.
Talking about Twitter, your TikTok shop, your movies.
Well, there was some production going on.
And Tricia and I were waiting.
Because as everyone knows, Moses is reporting line from Burning Man on the field.
Is he in?
Moses, are you with us?
Coming at you from the studio.
Well, we're stuck in the mud here, but actually...
Stuck in the mud.
Yeah, it was raining.
We can't leave Burning Man, but actually, this is not Moses.
It's Bethany.
We switched because I was stuck in the mud.
And I was, wait, let me see.
I mean, kind of do about the same little haircut.
I mean, they have the same soul.
What was it?
So, yeah, we switched souls, and he was so kind.
He's stuck in the mud.
I'm here replacing him at the Jess Trish podcast.
But I'm just,
didn't come empty-handed the cosplay oh my god that's what we have martins hot dog no it's a
potato bun oh you didn't talk to delores yet so do you know what's happening you do this is this is
this is one of the biggest stories of this weekend after the trial so after what trial so wait so
okay so somebody posted a picture of their hot dog and they're like this is a perfect ratio bond to hot dog
Okay.
DeLorence commented, you know, we all know this is Martin's hot buns, you know.
Her comment got over a million likes.
It's the most famous comments on TikTok, so famous that the most famous?
The most famous?
The most famous.
So that the person that posted the TikTok got so jealous of the comment becoming so popular that they deleted the comment, then deleted the TikTok, and then deleted their whole account altogether.
Karen.
But Martin, they knew.
This is the moment to seize the event.
They opened the TikTok.
They called Delores.
And they, yeah, these are sold out.
I had to get them from Burning Man because they didn't know about, you know, that this is popping and trending.
Wait, did you really get Martin's potato rolls?
I order them online.
Luckily, they showed up on time.
You swear on everything.
Wait a minute.
I have the certificate.
That means he didn't, right?
That's not the packaging.
Okay.
So the point is.
Martin did write with Dolores and she got, you know, a brand deal with them.
She's the official ambassador.
And yeah.
So, but how do we know DeLores have her comments been deleted?
Well, it got over a million like by the time that it was deleted.
But they sold out.
The bun sold out.
I mean, they.
I'm Bernie Man.
No, over there we didn't know what was going on because we were not.
Oh, these are two.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because we didn't know, we actually had access to some of those bonds because they're sold out everywhere.
Got it.
But anyway, yeah.
You can try it?
Ooh, I thought you were just bringing a snack in.
I did.
That one for you on a close score.
It's fresh.
I just made it.
I can't eat a hot dog.
Are they fresh?
Are they warm?
It's warm.
I just made it.
I literally walked upstairs because it was boiling in the water.
You were?
Wow.
Damn.
I wish it was something I liked.
I would eat one right now.
You hot dog person over there?
So anyway, reporting from the field, this is what's happening out in the world.
Back to you.
Thank you.
Bethany?
Thank you so much.
I don't know how to.
Well, you look great, babe.
You look very handsome, actually.
You look, uh?
He's not here.
He'll be, he's on the way.
He'll be back.
I thought we ended it.
Okay.
Let me know when you're back.
Well, you can tell.
Oh.
Okay.
So we need organizer in here.
We need to organize.
I forget I had the headphones on.
Okay.
And we're back.
Well, I will say that was a great choice of costume.
you're back now.
Yeah.
It is one of the biggest hot topics.
Yeah.
Actually, Tanna has sent me a picture of Bethany Frankel.
Actually, it was a TikTok and it's like, what do you mean?
Like, gay Twitter has me dressing up as like Bethany Frank for Halloween.
She goes, we should dress up as Burning Man for Halloween.
And I was like, well, you can be Bethany.
And then I sent pictures of you back to her.
I was like, I can be Moses at Burning Man.
And we can be Bruton people.
That could be a fun.
It's actually popular.
People really like Bethany Franklin.
It's over now, though.
It's over.
She came back after five days.
and she was like people were upset that she didn't stay for longer and then she was literally cursing them
the people that say she didn't stay long enough but she was like I'm so dried out I can't stay any
longer so she was there for five days she's busy all right has she reached out to you for saying thank you
for the support we literally switched I mean yeah on the way we get to the pre-fill a little bit
all right well maybe now that she's back maybe now that she'll back she'll pick
up on all that's been going on yeah she's she's there she's with it it's all right on well she commented
once that I was looking so skinny um maybe she'll comment bethany frank and my husband loves you
so no I'm just covering the news I'm not I'm objective about it you're trying to soul swap you're
trying to cosplay well that's just a way to bring her here because she's maybe she wants a hot dog
you're only going to have one bite of a hot dog if that was a hamburger I'd be eating that entire
hamburger right now I will I just don't it meet on the microphone
You never liked to eat on camera.
You never like that even with muck bings.
He just never ate.
So if you look at our first muck bing, you never eat, you just talk.
I was like, well, that's not really muckbangs.
It's just an interview then.
The mac and cheese.
I remember as eating mack and cheese.
You didn't have one bite.
I was like, okay.
Anyways, cold open.
Welcome to the podcast, you guys.
Just Trish.
I'm going on tour.
I will be in Australia.
You guys got to get those tickets because honestly it's 85% sold out.
So get those tickets.
Australia, eras of Trish.
I'm also going to be at Trishmas.
I'm going to be four dates in Florida.
Jacksonville.
through, you're buying those tickets. Niagara Falls is almost sold out and we'll see you in
Orlando, Jacksonville, St. Petersburg, and New Jersey. I'm on a book tour, but tickets are sold
out, so it's news you lose on that one. And what else? Crying on the Gitchin'Flor comes out
November 10th. I'm starting my press tomorrow. Everything's going to be coming out in November
though. It's going to be, it's going to be crazy. I'm doing like 40 interviews, I think, between now
and when the book releases.
And they're all just going to be held till it comes out that week.
So I'm going to be at 40 places at once.
I'm like, wow, she's really at every podcast.
There's British podcast coming here.
I'm going to be on New York.
I'm going there.
Like, there's going to be a lot.
So I start tomorrow with a really big one.
So I'm really excited about that.
But I won't come on to November.
So get that, crying on the kitchen floor.
Check out Moses.
Moses cooking videos.
Check out Oscar.
Oscar Gracie's
When's your next vlog coming up?
It's up today.
It's always up the day we talk about it.
I finished it this morning, yeah.
What's it called?
There's a couple titles.
Both involving you.
I kind of stole this meme that I saw you repost.
I'm going to Trisha Patech myself through these hard times.
Oh, yes, that was a great meme.
And then therapy session with Trisha Padas.
Oh, that's a great one too.
Yeah.
Who's the therapist?
You.
Oh.
Which you really, you snapped into mothering mode.
Did it?
Yes.
Yes.
It was, um, actually your book press began with me.
Oh, that is true.
You were the first.
You were the first interviews.
It was a 25 minute exclusive.
Yeah.
So if you want it months early, you can catch it on me.
I did feel like I was talking too much in it.
I was like, wow, do people care about any of this?
Oh, I loved it.
Me just preaching about what I don't even know what I said, but because it was, oh, it was like,
did we do hot topics that day?
Or we did Patreon.
And then we did it.
It was in between filming Patreon and it.
interview. We did a get ready with me, sorry Alex Earle, and you were kind of just guruing me
through life. I love that. I kind of needed that, yeah. It was giving, yeah, you were the Alex
Earl because you were the get ready. Who helps her get ready? I don't even know who's in her
broken. Ashden, Earl, I don't know. Who would I want to be in that family? I don't know.
Ashton, Ashley. The little brother. Oh, there's a little brother. The little 13-year-old
that they try to force on social media. Yeah. Yeah, go check it out. You were at the,
I heard so much about this chain restaurant.
Who else talked about it?
Remember when I was like, Oscar was talking about it and he was excited,
but someone else brought it up.
Well, I did.
Oh.
But why?
Because I was like, oh, even Oscars excited about it.
Oh, no, no, I know.
Someone else we know that they said that they set it up.
Yeah.
Because they listened to the pod.
Everyone was gagged.
Oh, right.
That's what you were saying.
Because you were saying someone listened to the pod.
It was Lionsgate that reached out to you.
Oh, yes, yes.
And they're like, oh, wait, someone else just said they were listening to the pod.
And it was the Cheez-It thing.
That's what it was.
Okay. They're like, oh, we heard you want to go to cheese it.
So, like, I actually know someone who set that up if you guys want to go.
And I was like, oh, that's cool.
So I thought it was like an experience day to go.
But then I was like, I think Oscar was just there.
I think you just.
I was just at the food court.
Oh, you just go.
Yes.
Oh.
Very local news.
Our mall food court did a little renovation and they have a few new eateries because the other ones went out of business.
Which is crazy because it was so good.
The Defender Social is no longer that.
It's called what now.
So now they have just the chain there?
There's a place called the chain.
which is like different chefs' versions of iconic fast food classics.
And then there's chain desserts,
which is chef's interpretation of iconic desserts.
I love that.
What do you have?
I had a terriaki chicken bowl.
I also tried the chicken tenders for journalism.
Okay, I was going to say you went to a chain place and had terriacchi bowl.
I love a terriarchy bowl.
I am on the lookout for like a new go-to terriarchy bowl.
But you know, I also have to test the tenders out.
So I was a little split on them.
I think they're your kind of tenders.
I think you would really like the breading on these.
Thick, crispy dry?
A little thicker, but the breading is like almost like the Korean fried cheese breading.
I guess I would like the, like the one with the cereal almost.
You know what I like?
Yeah, like very crispy like that.
Yeah.
Oh, I would love.
Yeah, I think they're your type.
Narian love them.
Not my favorite breading.
My favorite breading is like the most.
his style breading.
The panko.
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
We have to do a little like potluck because everyone does love those chicken tender.
You know who else Lydia?
She was like, I need those chicken tender recipes.
With the corn.
Yeah, with the corn.
We got to do it.
Oh, but then that's what we're going to do on Patreon.
We're reacting to the last time we had corn and mashed potatoes.
Do you remember this?
Last time I did a Patreon video with corn and mashed potatoes?
Yeah.
You do?
Wait, what do you mean?
You can bleep it.
Oh, yes, yes.
With a former co-host who has a knack for the ukulelele.
Let's just say that.
My kids were playing the ukulele.
ukulele this weekend because from the Lilo and Stitch birthday party that these
ingolades and they were playing that and I was like oh my gosh it was giving me flashbacks
it's like why is the ukulele like now cursed it shouldn't be why is it tainted anyways
eight hour filming day because you like the corn and mash what it would you say eight hour
filming that's what I said that I told you I was I would anyways go to our Patreon if you want to
hear more of the lore it's not really like that interesting but then I was I think it's like
when you again I blame the book I blame the book when you like go through three
years of like retelling your entire life and then you just remember that and then when you
said corn and mash I was like wait that's so crazy you know what else likes cord and
match and then we were doing Patreon and I was like oh that was the end of that it wasn't
even Patreon I guess we were doing a vlog and I have that corned mashed video on my old
computer that's why that old computer was out so we were to do reacting I'm like I don't
know maybe maybe we'll just react to the ones that are public because it whatever was
out it's kind of like ooh bad juju putting it out there but anyways we could read we
could reclaim the corn and mashed potatoes and make it like happy and I've seen a new
recipe for mashed potato that looks
delicious so so maybe for christmas party it sounds like i'll have like i'll be catering the party you want to
you want to cater it with all my dishes i know i know because i god that's the thing it's like i would love
maybe we can do like a pre-christmas maybe thanksgiving dinner because then it's like easier for
the smaller crowd christmas party's bigger and i want you to enjoy the christmas party how do people
enjoy dinner parties when they're their ones cooking you enjoy seeing the people eat your food and
happy about it because we've done that we've done holidays where we cooked a lot okay but think about
the Christmas party there's 30 people going to be there how you're gonna cook for 30 people and enjoy it
that case will like get somebody to help me you know what I mean like setting it up but just need
another pair of hands because the amount of food I think maybe just small we'll do small different
portions how I like to hang out one-on-one with friends have like four people over at time the people
who know each other because okay am I the only person that's like if my friends don't know each other
I don't want them all together.
Like my mommy friends at dance class,
I don't want to like come to the Christmas party with my work friends.
Oh, interesting.
You like a little,
you like the segregation of friends.
I do not like segregation.
I do not support segregation.
But it's more of like,
obviously like,
okay, glam and touring and podcasting people,
Tanna and everyone,
like we're all together, right?
We're all creatives.
We're all in the YouTube world.
But then like my,
our mommy friends and stuff like that,
like they're not in that world.
Okay, that makes sense.
That makes sense, yeah.
But like birthdays, birthdays, birthdays are mommy friends.
They make-
Influencers are not there.
No, but I'm saying like sometimes people do and they just, they either stand in their groups or they find things in common.
And I mean, it's fine.
Like, why separate that?
I think you have a little PTSD.
Maybe.
Again, Joey.
Joey, I just have a Christmas party.
You sitting, it all comes back to a Joey Gersuffa Christmas party.
Yeah.
You not knowing I Justine or any of those and then you're just sitting alone at the table eating the Christmas.
That part.
And that's like the saddest thing in the world.
It was quite sad when I walked in.
Yeah.
So then it's like, I don't want anyone to feel that way.
Mind you, you just got dumb, too.
So it was like, it was really rough.
It was a rough one.
I did talk about everyone at that party at some point.
So I'm sure that was something to do with it too.
Including Joey.
You might be right.
You might be right.
But I guess even when we have like our little kids parties
and all different walks of life of moms and dads come,
they don't know each other,
but it's just like, well, we're all here for like a three-year-old.
You know what I mean?
So they kind of just all like talk to you.
I don't know.
Maybe not.
Maybe I'm everything yet.
Let us know if you mix and mingle with your friends.
It also just seems like a lot.
Sometimes I like a smaller.
When I was thinking about our wedding vows.
That's a valid reason.
Like amount of people.
If you want a certain amount, then you narrow it down.
Like our renewal vows.
I was like, wait, there's not that many people.
But it kind of liked it when we did the Hawaii one and it was like smaller.
It was like you could talk to everyone.
That was the best.
Yeah.
And we have some surprise character.
It's going to be there.
I'm very excited.
It's very exciting.
It's going to be the wedding of the century.
By the way, next year, renewal will be in Burning Man.
Did you set that up?
You set it up?
That makes sense.
Yeah, if you get Disneyland, he should get Burning Man.
For six years, maybe ten years.
Who celebrates every year?
You know what I mean?
We need the big monuments only.
Maybe at ten years, we'll reevaluate and see if the kids want to go.
I guess they'll be old enough then.
Okay.
See you back in ten.
five years.
10 years.
Maybe 10 years.
Maybe 10's better.
Also, I'm not dressed as Lana Del right today.
I'm dressed at the end.
I'm surprised you can pick it up faster.
You're like, oh.
I know.
It took me just a second because I didn't expect you to do a little Olivia Rodriguez cosplay.
I love a surprise.
It was my favorite.
I can't wait for a daisy.
That is your niece as well.
Yeah, exactly.
By marriage.
Yeah.
Because we're so close.
I didn't know.
So did she take the look from Lana?
Because literally everyone said Lana, but to me, I was.
like, wait, she just did a Rolling Stone cover and she had Daisy's in her hair.
So I was like, well, that's...
Lana has been known, especially when she just came out on the scene.
She was like the brunette wavy hair flower crown, like a Daisy flower crown.
So she was like a festival girl when she first came out on the scene.
Now, not so much.
I feel like now since she married like an alligator...
Hortals.
Yeah, I don't know if he hunts.
I think he takes them out to look at him.
Oh, yeah.
You know, a tourist?
Alligator tour guide.
A tourist?
Tourists.
I was like, Torres.
And she's running his best friend.
So she's calmed down.
Exactly, yeah.
Yeah.
But the top I clocked.
I was like, oh, wait.
Olivia Rodriguez on the Rolling Stone.
I actually already had this top.
So when I saw on Twitter, I was like, oh, I was like, I actually have that top.
And I had the flowers because what I know these flowers from was when I did my Priscilla
Presley cosplay for ASMR.
See, I think that's why I also kind of gives Lana Del Rey because Lana was very much inspired
by Priscilla Presley as well.
Yeah.
Okay, so Priscilla, the OG, so no one can say anyone copied.
Although, I guess now Olivia owns the color pink and daisies because Daisies is her album.
And that is kind of crazy, how someone just so popular can just come and be like, actually, daisies are my thing now.
Is that the name of her album, right?
No, Daisy Chainfield is just the, her festival.
Oh.
Foundation.
Maybe foundation, too.
What's the album?
You look pretty sad for a girl someone love.
Is that the one where she's on the swing and everyone's like she stole it from someone?
People always think she stole something.
I know, I know.
Nothing's original, though.
I, there's nothing.
Everyone stole everything from everybody, including Elvis, you know, from the very beginning.
He stole from muddy waters, you know what I mean?
So everyone stole from somebody, and that is just life.
So you need to get over it.
But I do love that she was in her pink air because I had a pink top, and I was like,
ooh, I'm going to wear that pink today.
So here we are.
Hot Topic starts now.
I have a.
I was waiting to see who was going to fill it first.
Wow, you jumped in there.
All right.
Well, go ahead.
Moses led Hot Topics today.
It's very Moses coated.
I love it.
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much to see geek for sponsoring today's episode. Well, do you say Alex Warren falling down.
What? Yes. You didn't see that? No. Oh, sorry, well, like a big fall in the show. Yeah, but he
was kind of like jumping off. Jimmy will show us. He's like jumping off stumbling, falling down.
And again, I got flashbacks, PTSD, Benson Boone.
Oh, you know.
But then what happened was somebody discovered that, you know, it's a Mormon thing.
The flipping.
Oh.
The flipping.
It's a Mormon thing.
I've never seen a Mormon flip.
Who else does it?
All of them.
Not Donnie Osmond.
Whitney Leffitt?
So wait.
Connor is going to flip on the ending of the stars?
That was the conclusion.
Oh, he flipped.
My conclusion and prediction that he will.
But anyway, they're saying that Mormons, because they don't drink, the drugs and all that,
flipping is the only thing that's left for them.
So then there's videos and videos of
Mormons flipping all around
because that's like a
badass thing to do. Yeah.
inertia as well. Blood
going to the head.
Like they're running into a wall and flip.
Is Alice Warren Mormon?
No. That's why it fell down.
That's why he fell down.
But Benson Boone.
I thought that's where he was going.
So Alex Warren flipped and he fell down
because he's not Mormon.
And he was flipping like Benson Boone.
Well, he was trying to jump off.
He was jumping off, falling down, flashbacks Benson Boone,
then realized Benson Boone used to be Mormon.
That's why he's flipping so much and so well.
Realizing Mormons in general, that's where the origin of this guy's flipping in that age bracket.
And then realizing predicting that Connor will flip on dancing with the stars.
I can see that.
Manifesting it.
Flip it right here.
But Alex Warren, he was like jumping from this top level during a concert, like the balcony level, for example.
And then there was, like, equipment underneath that kind of made, like, stairs-ish.
Yeah, it looks like stairs.
Yeah.
So he kind of jumped from this, like, balcony level down onto this, like, equipment to get to the lower level.
And then he stumbled.
Stumbled how?
Like, took a foul?
Or was he like...
He looked like his leg slipped.
And then he just fell, boom, forward.
Is he okay?
Yeah, he posted it to his TikTok, so I think he's okay.
Who filmed it?
I mean, everyone.
I know.
I know.
Everyone at the concert.
T&G posted it.
He posted it.
He's among audience, like where he jumped off the balcony.
There's an audience standing there.
I don't know why.
Like, I would not.
I don't think anybody would.
Why are you jumping off a balcony?
Maybe because what he jumped down on did not look like stable ground or stairs or it just
looks like a piled up things.
Oh my God.
That's so not like him.
He seems so sensible.
That's so sad.
Well, I guess I'm glad he's okay.
Damn.
That's, well, I guess he does some crazy things.
Wasn't his, like,
friend's dad like shoot him or something?
What?
Yeah, he has like a bullet in his chest.
God, what happened though?
Because it was like, I think it was like they were playing or joking.
Well, his origin is David Dobrick nachos.
I have to remember that.
Right.
So he was very into being prankster.
Yeah.
You are, I was going to say that earlier right when you walked in.
You kind of look like David Dobrick today.
And I keep staring at you and you're giving David.
I've never once seen David Dobrick wear a women's a heart hoodie from TikTok.
It's the hoodie and your hair is kind of flipping out underneath.
It is very long and curly right now.
It's giving you.
You look like David Oberg.
That's so weird.
What's this background?
Does he have any Cuban in him?
Isn't he?
No.
You're, your band.
Do you look like him, your eyebrows?
Are they Polish or Roman?
Romanian.
No, he's like.
I felt like Slovakia or something.
East Europe.
Okay.
Everyone's discussing everything.
Oh, you're right.
He was shot by a friend's father when he was a teenager.
And it's like still.
in his chest. That is crazy.
Entered his liver, not his chest.
Missed his heart and became permanently lodged
in his lung. That is insane.
What? But were they
messing around? Obviously. I don't think the
dad would just shoot him, right?
He forgave the friend's father who
officiated Warren's wedding to cover.
That is nuts. I know. If you shoot me,
you're not coming to my wedding. Like what?
But there had to be a reason why he should. We must have
asked him or something. I don't think the dad would have just shot
him. That is crazy.
Yeah. I guess he has a little
daredevil then, a little risk taker.
I don't like that. Yeah, I don't either.
You should write music about that, because that's crazy.
Write a song about getting shot.
Probably did.
I don't think so.
That's what Ordinary is about.
That would be a gag.
I keep thinking when you say Ordinary, I always think of the Ricky Dillon song,
so I can't get his song, because I'm Ordinary,
that's all I think about it.
That's all I think of Alex Warren. What's the Alice Warren?
Ordinary.
Ordinary.
Any event we go to explain the background, you know.
Any T.J. Max I go to, it's playing.
Yeah, pretty much.
At our wedding, it'll be Alex Warren.
He sent me, oh, I'm on the PR list of something.
He sent me his album and I was like, oh, that's so random.
Is it called Man Child?
Wild Child.
Oh.
Close.
See, I guess he's lifting up.
That's why he wanted to be wild.
Maybe that's why he jumped.
He's like, let me.
Did he jump or did he stumble?
He, like, jumped from the balcony.
He jumped and then stumbled.
Oh, my God.
Like John was smooth.
That's what happened.
He jumped from the balcony and then broke up.
his leg when he fell.
But after shooting
Abraham Lincoln?
Okay.
He fled.
That is giving John Wilkes booth
machos actually.
What did he do up there?
Why was he running?
Why was he jumping?
I guess that's what I want to know.
Your honest warrant.
You can go any route.
Yeah.
I think white guys
kind of been doing crazy things
during their concerts, though.
As we see with Benson Boone.
I think of Joshua Bassett as well.
The singer from Disney Channel
who inspired Sabrina Carpenter
and Olivia Rodrigo's like Love Triangle.
Because I always see TikToks of him performing back in the day.
And he would kind of do this similar where he's on the balcony level.
And he's like walking on the banister, like straddling the banister and literally could fall and die.
But he's kind of like tiptoeing.
And girls are like reaching out for him.
It's kind of nuts.
I'm like, what happened to safety?
I don't know.
They're not doing it.
That's for sure.
I'm practicing it.
I love safety.
I love just watching someone on stage.
Like, you know, just be ed cheering.
Stand in the middle of stage.
Give us nothing.
Yes.
I mean, not that he does give us nothing.
but Eric Stiles's giving nothing, huh?
We don't see any clips of him.
Oh, my God, yeah.
And he's performing a basketball right now?
Yeah, a residency, mind you.
And no one's posting one clip.
Yeah.
It's getting money lottery.
I've only seen, like, two clips,
and has people been like, what is this, honey?
And it's so weird, like, the switch up on Harry Styles.
I know.
After he won that Grammy album of the year,
and people thought Beyonce should have won it instead of him.
Like, I think there's been a little bit of a curse on Harry's size.
Yeah.
And I keep seeing also, I think,
it's around the anniversary of the Don't worry darling press store
with like spit gates and all that
so I keep seeing that be resurfaced now
and everyone's like no he definitely spit on Chris Pine
and now I'm kind of like maybe he did
not you hating Harry too you love Harry
I do like I don't love Harry I like him I do like Harry
I like him the more clips I see of him I'm like oh
what's that really bad cover they did on tour
and everyone's like this is the prime Harry
he's wearing like a headband
One Direction Days
It was one direction day
and it's like maybe there's other people on stage with them like it must be
god it's like it was the four of them
I can't my god I wish I would have saved it it was so good I should just start sending
you just send you too much I don't want to send you every little thing but no you should
it was such a bad oh because she doesn't give a damn about me because I'm just a teenaged dirt
you never seen him do that cover yes yes I think I saw that live mind you I was gonna say it was like a concert
I'm pretty sure it was the era I was seeing them live
And Harry was kind of cute.
I was like, I kind of get this.
No, I was a hairy girl down.
But not anymore.
But not anymore.
It's crazy.
I'm going to flip.
I know.
And I'm not even Mormon and I flipped.
Not yet.
I don't know that.
That correlation with the Alex Ward, the best in.
That was a long jump to get there.
No pun intended.
No pun intended.
That was.
All right.
Shout out to the Mormons.
I do have more music news, actually, about one of your faves, Stella Lefty.
Love her.
Is that Selangley?
Is that the same person?
Not Ella Langley.
Ella Langley and Stella Lefty.
Stella Lefty, yes.
Both topping the charts right now.
But Stella Lefty constantly hit with accusations
that she is ripping off other people's music.
So remember we talked about her versus Nilla Khan
with the song Boston's thick season?
Yes, yes.
So after that, she had another song that got mistaken
for a chick's formerly dixie chicks song and then she actually said that she
interpolated the song which means like she gets permission she clears it and then she mixes the
melody to incorporate it into her song but the writing credits were left off at that at first
her label said it was a mistake and then the writing credits were added but that raised some
eyebrows and then she had another song that sounded very similar to a blake shelton song
Ugh.
Who's her put off like
Shelton?
I know.
Something I would never expect.
It was his song
I'll name the dogs
and her song,
Why Wouldn't We?
I'll spare you that one.
But this one I think
will pique your interest
because the latest accusation
is that she copied a song
from a little musical
called The Greatest Showman.
Oh!
Who hasn't copied the Greatest Showman.
It is a classic.
So she has a song
called...
Did you like Greatest Showman?
I saw the movie.
Do you like it?
Yes, I really liked it.
I really liked the music.
I like the soundtrack as well.
It makes me cry when I hear the soundtrack.
I'm like, wow.
Yes.
And you're not even a musical person.
No, I saw it because Zendaya Zach Afrano was like seated for that.
I was like that's a good combination.
I haven't seen it since it came out like on Blu-ray or digital.
When did it even come out?
How long ago was it?
Was it like 2017?
Wow, almost 10 years.
Yeah.
All right, we love it.
So I haven't gone back to see it, but I did love it and listen to the soundtrack all the time.
Yeah.
I will play this song for you for context.
We'll have to edit it out.
But just so I can get your interpretation,
as someone who actually is familiar with the greatest showman.
This might affect your opinion.
Let's see.
Oh.
So this is her song.
Oh, my God.
Well.
Is that not the exact same song?
Trisha was literally singing.
And you're the one I cannot see.
A million dreams.
Yes.
It is exactly the same.
That's it.
I think we need to just, we need to concede that one.
I know.
I fear maybe songwriting just isn't for you.
Granted, I do feel a little bad saying that.
But she is the daughter of a billionaire.
She will be just fine.
Yeah, she's the group on heiress, baby.
She's like, get her in the lawsuit.
Maybe that's how she got the song.
She just bought a group on.
Maybe she bought the rights.
Maybe she did buy the rights.
Like, it's my song now.
My guess is that she's paying somebody to write the songs.
They're using some air flop to be like, hey, makes this song into a new song.
I mean, that's...
And they sell it back to her.
Really lazy.
Because I do that a lot with my songs.
I love the song.
Make it like that, but make it sound different.
But you're doing it as a...
Like, you're doing it to honor the original song.
Yeah, because then you recreate the whole music video.
I was like, let me just do it exactly as you do it, but a different song.
You're very clear about what you're doing.
Yeah.
She's not.
She's like...
But what I'm saying is she really like the song.
She could find someone who could just make it different.
Like, I like the song, do it in a different font.
Yeah.
I don't think it's like really ripping off.
It's inspired once again, going back to their original conversation.
Everyone.
rips off every song. I mean
Hound Dog was like Big Mom with Orton, but then
Elvis sings and everyone's just like, oh my gosh, the best thing ever.
You know what I mean? So it's just like, I think
although he didn't get in trouble for that. They should get in trouble
for that now. It's 2026. You know what I mean? I feel like
they should, actually should walk out in trouble for back then. I love
Elvis, but damn, he really did steal some songs. And like
I am usually pretty gracious
with those arguments because there are so many chord
progressions that of course
things are going to sound similar a little bit. For me, it's like
the syncopation, the melody,
and then also if you're posting
how much you love this music and then
you're going and writing music.
And she's like, I didn't have stick season in my head when I wrote it.
But then you have 20 covers of it.
It's like, okay, well, somewhere it's in your head.
It's in your head forever, baby.
So she's like this era.
She just came out of nowhere.
She was like her debut songs.
Yeah, Boston is her first big hit.
It's peaked so far number two in the charts.
But who knows if she can top Ella Langley for that number one spot.
They're number one and number two.
They sound very similar.
When you said that, I was like, wait, isn't that?
Oh, I see where you guys.
Stella and Ella.
Yeah.
Okay.
At first I was confused by the mix of.
They are both country-ish girls with brunette hair, so they also similar-ish vibes.
So it's Ella Langley, Stella Lanford.
What is it?
Stella Lefty.
Stella left.
Oh, that's why too, the L.
So it's like the L-L-L.
Even her name, where I hear Stella, like stealing.
It's like a slang for stealing.
Stella Lefty.
She's Stella, that's on.
That's true.
And isn't like
And left, even lefty is lifting
Yeah, like lifting.
Yeah, I was trying to think.
I was thinking of those sticky bandits
And they had like, yeah, it's like, yeah, mm-hmm,
they like lefty.
Stealing lifting songs from others.
Yeah, yeah.
That's her brand.
She's stealing lifting songs for others.
All for entertainment purposes, we love you.
Don't sue us.
She's group bond money.
I'm like, we love you.
And I love a group on, mind you.
I love a, mm, I don't know how we used Groupon.
Oh, I would be running up group bonds for Botox all the time.
Not anymore.
She can come for you.
She has a lot of time.
I could have to like make an alias or something.
What do you get, Botox?
Oh, yeah, I would run up those Botox Groupons because Botox is a little expensive.
And then I, the guy is they limit you.
Like, it's only for new customers only.
So I went through every med spot in Los Angeles County with a Groupon because you weren't going to stop me from.
I don't that.
I think by now I've used them all.
But are you done with Groupon?
Are they, like, what happened?
I think I've just used them all.
I still get emails from time to time for a group on.
Do you only get like a certain amount?
You get a Groupon and it'll be like in terms and conditions.
new customers only so they want to get new repeat customers but I would just go to a different
meds ball with a different group on but group on what's the issue it to you yeah yeah you can buy the
group on for wherever but the actual company the actual meds ball will only accept the group on if you
are a new customer you should reward the people who are coming back yeah you keep getting 10% off
I know everyone overturned is anyways especially at Botox places and I did have someone tell me that like
you know if you're using Groupon for Botox like it's the Botox that's about to expire
And I was like, well, if it still works, whatever.
Who said that?
I had a co-work and tell me that.
One friend that person.
The guy is I printed it out at work one time and then it's the community printer.
And then she went to get her work documents.
My group on was in the printer.
She's like, announced it to the whole office.
It was open concept office.
Who printed out the Botox Groupon?
And I was like, I did.
I did.
Just leave it there for the person to go pick it up.
It's so weird.
Did we need the old announcement?
It's like the cashier when you buy something.
Yeah. And I had no shame. I was like, yeah, that was me. I stood ten toes down on my purchase.
Do you still talk to him? No. Yeah, that person's bad energy. I do not like people like that in general that just like, yeah, see something like, well, did you know that's actually expired? Who the fuck cares? I didn't ask you. God, there are people who just love to be like negative over everything.
I know. I know this. And actually, I'm like, I don't care. If I asked your opinion, you can give it. I hope this helps. I don't like a hope this helps. Exactly. No, hope this helps. That should be a podcast. It's like that I've had a ladies. I should go on I've had it. They didn't read.
I guess I didn't I wonder maybe I have to reach out to them because when I was
seeing about podcast touring I was like I forgot about the I've had it girls I think they're in like
Ellie and I or something I think they're in the East Coast yeah hit you up girls I want to come
they're like no thank you um oh another podcast that was in drama I thought this was actually
very interesting um the not skinny but not fat podcast did you see the controversy with her
what's happened there she did a brand ad read for Polly Market and she used the
Lindsay Clancy trial as like the hook
to bet on Polly Market.
Wait, what?
Yes.
What?
Yeah.
You think they had it scripted for,
can I hear it?
You didn't know what she said?
Like, roughly.
On Polly Market, it was predicted
the verdict would be not guilty.
Are you surprised?
And then it was hashtag Polly Market
partner.
She like said it verbally in her podcast.
Yeah, like that was a hook.
Oof.
So, my girl.
I know that.
It's like very dystopian.
Mind you, also like Polly Market
is like one of the investors,
I guess, in Dear Media,
which is where the podcast is as well.
So they do a lot of ads there.
But using a murder trial, like as the hook for it is really diabolical.
And she got called out for it obviously, really immediately.
I don't know how that would even like pass the approval process.
They need a Jimmy editor being like, let's add it that part.
Actually, this seems like off.
I had ad reads that would be like, oh, just totally like, what was it?
They wanted me to like talk bad about, I don't know, something.
So another company that I really liked or something.
I was like, no, why?
Because you don't, they give you ad read, sometimes it's going to be diabolical, but it can
also just pick, I'm not saying that.
That's so crazy.
Mm-hmm.
I guess what kind of podcast is, it's not a true crime podcast?
No, it's like pop culture.
Oh.
She gets like a lot of celebrity guests, too, for interviews and stuff.
Yeah, I've heard of it.
I know it's big.
Damn.
Yeah.
And what was her apology?
So she ended up posting an apology on Sunday to Instagram.
She said, posting about the Lindsay Clancy trial in the same breath as a brand partnership
was completely insensitive, wrong and out of character for me.
I should have known better and I feel sick that I didn't see that in the moment.
And she said that the trial really affected her because she's also a mother.
She said, I've been following it so closely, talking about it constantly and feeling
heartbroken over every part of it.
I became so consumed by the trial that I completely lost perspective and didn't stop to think
about how grossly inappropriate was to discuss something this tragic in that context.
I made a terrible judgment call and feel so effing awful about that.
I know deleting it doesn't erase it.
Believe me, I'm horrified by the choice.
made and please know this lapse in judgment does not represent who I am as a person.
I am so deeply sorry.
But then she turned off the comments.
I don't like that.
Yeah, you got to keep the comments on.
You have to keep those comments on.
Yes.
Yeah, I am like, damn.
Sometimes, yeah, you're just on a roll.
You're just reading.
You're just saying things I can see how I guess you could just.
But it's a big podcast.
It's like a call our daddy where it's like there has to be so many people around and no one
was just like.
We are a group of four.
Yeah.
Between the four of us, someone would be like,
that's not.
Yeah.
Sometimes I don't even know
what gets edited
and I'm just like
well probably for the better
but yeah that is
odd that's weird
but also the people who did the ad read
did they ever say anything
like oops are bad
like we shouldn't have done that
or that she just had to take the only count
I think because she's the face of it
she had to take
well I don't throw someone on the boss
I'd be like that ad read said
especially the Lunga case is so
hot button right now
and it's so
emotional
yeah divisive and intense
and it's like
yeah, don't use that for, what is it?
It's a polymine.
Like a betting, I know, T.
Everyone's like, well, let's go there.
A betting platform.
It's like, you know, the same kind of things where they'll do like, who's going to win?
Love Island, you know, it's like, but we're really losing.
Do they actually do it with the Lindsay?
Because you said, oh, the majority said she's going.
Yeah, because there was somebody doing a deep dive to somebody that was a betting on the mistrial
and they were trying to figure out if it was like somebody from inside the court that knew
that it's happening.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying they should also ask you an apology like, oh, we probably shouldn't have allowed bets on a murder trial.
Yeah, it's got to really run up the corporate ladder.
Yeah.
If maybe start them and run up, because that's crazy.
They also have to be a big company if they're like Dear Media's investor sponsor or whatever.
It's like, what is Dear Media?
And how come everybody has those Dear Media microphones?
It's like a media company.
Imagine Unwell Network, but it was better and actually successful.
No shade.
Stop.
That is so shady.
He can't say no.
No, she has.
It's just well network.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I see.
So that's just, okay, so it has a bunch of podcasts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They'll give anyone a mic that seems.
That part, because everyone has those little dear media things.
Yeah.
To me, it's also like, if you really want to make a statement,
or you're sorry, donate the ad read money to some kind of cause.
You know what I mean?
Like, something with children, something with mothers, you know, like.
Yeah.
And it's like a really successful podcast, so you can definitely afford it, no shame as well.
But so just donate that ad read money to really make a statement.
No, always, always.
Because it's like, yeah, you up and like money can't change it.
But I can at least show you're trying, you believe in something.
You're believing in the right direction.
And at least it, even if it gets clocked as like performative by people, like at least it's still action that people who are in need will benefit from.
So.
Well, that's coming next on the next skinny not bad.
They'll be like, actually, we're donating.
It always comes a little late.
It's like James Charles, like, after like weeks and you're like,
actually I did donate to the Spirit Airlines.
Well, after you drag them through the mud and called them lazy,
then you're like, actually, I'm going to give.
How much do you give?
He gave $5,000.
Yeah, and then he donated to other random go-funds here and there as well.
James Charles, we're waiting for the Painted Project Update.
Still looking.
Still on the lookout.
We're never going to forget that.
No.
And he's just out there being, being,
being dubous
he never get
like why doesn't he have a good character growth
by now a good like a comeback a good
you know what I mean? That's why I do just think he's
diabolical because I love like a redemption
arc I love you know
someone being reformed
I love that like arc of like you know you go through something
bad you learn from it and then you prove
that you are a better person it's like very
and that's what all books are about
that's what everything is about you know
and I
Beginning of the podcast, I feel like we also were rooting for him to have that arc because, again, we hadn't really heard from him much.
So we were like, he must have grown.
He must have, you know, accepted accountability.
And then, no, he still was like the victim complex.
Never doing anything wrong.
Still doing terrible things.
Because I see people, I think it was like, I think Quillan's podcast.
They were talking about, like, Charlie DeMille was on.
They were talking about how they're going to see LaRae and all those things.
And I was like, he was in that group.
And, like, obviously no one talk to them anymore.
And they've all had these great glowups.
Like, obviously, Quinlan's, like, number one.
It girl and Charlie's like making a comeback and stuff like that.
It's just like, why is James, and everybody, Emma Chamberlain he was friends with, she's,
like everyone has gone on to do tremendous amazing things and James is just rotting.
Yeah, he's just on the internet being dubious, but it's like, you could be great.
You have followers, so why aren't you, but see, I don't know, I was thinking about that so much.
I was just like, wait, what is it?
Because like, obviously when I watched the Charlie Demilio on Quinn's feeding starving celebrities,
I was like, I love her.
And, you know, I don't know.
I didn't know Charlie either way, but I was like, I love her.
She's so funny.
Addison Ray, too.
Everyone's like, oh, my God.
Even Little Honey's on this, like, America's Dumbish celebrity.
I don't know, one of those shows with Jojo.
And I was like, I like all them.
They all have such good qualities.
And it's like, what is it about James?
That's just like, and I should love him.
I mean, he's a little gay femme boy.
Can I say that?
Like, I love that.
That's my MO.
That's why I want to protect always.
And it's just like, I can't stand his face.
And he keeps popping up.
And it's just like, he needs to go figure out.
I don't know.
Maybe he just needs to go away and stop talking for a while.
And like you said, people kind of like, oh.
Yeah, I think that's just who he is, unfortunately.
And at this point, at his big age, I think that that is the best we're going to get.
And if that's the best we're going to get, the bar is in hell.
The bar is in hell.
And it's time to just hang it up.
That's why I try to just ignore him.
Again, he has so many different accounts, though.
That part.
And he just pops up.
Then I block one.
Then he makes another spam account.
Block the spam account.
Then he has a music account.
Block the music account.
Then he's got the painted account.
Block the painted account.
And then the painted co-host is there with Jane being like, we're looking for a new co-host of TikTok shop.
And then I blocked that one.
Then Dary and it's like, look, James Charles is hiring.
I'm like, block that.
I'm like, I can't escape it.
I can't escape it.
It's like a prison.
No, I'm sad the firm believer.
Like, just don't look at it.
Just keep moving.
But it's like in our face.
Somehow, yeah.
Someone at TikTok must like him because it always keeps like referring.
him.
Maybe he's paying or something.
I don't know.
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Because it's like,
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But yeah, I do think he has shown us the best version of himself. You know who keeps threatening
to speak out against, I guess everyone is Tati Westbrook? I keep seeing different clips of her
being like, I have so much to tell. Like, yeah, recently, within the past week or two,
She's like, I have so much to tell.
I've been going back and forth.
Do I want to speak out about this?
Do I just become a drama channel?
But she does this a lot.
She still hasn't figured out the time and place.
Very that.
Yeah.
She's like, what are you doing, girl?
I think you just, at this point, you really got nothing to lose.
Like, I mean.
But also, like, I kind of just, like, don't care at all.
Like, what else?
Oh, it's giving, like, when Adam, like, when Joshua, David Evans, Evans, or you got to
Adam, like, we're doing a Colleen documentary.
It's just like, I think everything has been exhausted at this point.
Same thing with you, Tati.
It's like, we get it.
James is awful.
You're also awful.
You're the weirdo who was almost 40 friends with a 17-year-old.
Like, what do you mean?
Like, let's just all drop.
Unless it's like something else, but there's nothing else.
You know if there was something else that I'd be saying it.
Unless she has a reality show coming out too on Netflix.
I'm saving it.
I'm going to tease it.
But nobody cares.
Nobody cares.
I don't know.
I say that too, but I would be seated.
I think only you.
Me and maybe 10 other people.
Like Tati, Westbrook, no.
No one.
No.
Me and maybe
Christy Spill Sash
I feel like we would be seated
Coccomoco maybe
Maybe not
She's too trendy
She's too in the now
There will be a group of a select group of us
Who will be on the front lines of that
And I don't think it'll ever happen
She
I don't like a tease
Like oh I'm gonna say this at some point
Like
The thing is she probably does have things to say
Yeah
But it won't benefit her
Like to get back into the drama
Is not gonna benefit her
And I think she also remembers the pain of being in the drama.
So I think that's what keeps her back from doing that.
Yeah, so much time as past her, just like, if you're not saying it now,
I'm not going to really care about it.
If she has anything to say, I'm sure it would be.
Whatever.
I don't know.
Like, that was girl.
That's seven years.
It's not saying much.
Like, I'm kind of seated for any, like, little mess, you know?
So, yeah.
Well, we would be because it's not topic.
So I guess if that's the title.
But in general, I think people are like, I don't care.
Yeah.
In general, it's like Kim, people are dying very that.
Right.
But because I love a little mess.
Yeah, a little mess is cute.
Of course, I'm going to be seated, yeah.
And, yeah, whatever it is, you're kind of like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
But so many years later.
I'm just a very curious, nosy person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think everybody is.
That's why we like a little drama online.
Interesting.
She never said anything about Tati.
Oh, no, no, no, since the Instagram live.
He doesn't, right?
He doesn't talk about anyone.
But I guess that's what everyone's issues behind the scenes is.
like he gets you to do it.
Yeah.
My Tati dumb as hell.
Like, why would I make that video about Tati when I didn't care?
Oh, I know.
Because Shane's like, she's the worst.
She's this person.
So then you rile up for him and you're like, Tati, you're dumb as hell.
I can't see it.
I mean, I had no idea who Tati Westbrook was when I made that video.
And I apologize to Tati.
That was a crazy video.
I was so angry.
Like, watching this, I'm so steamed up.
But I'm like, I literally, I promise you never seen a Tati Westbrook
video before that.
No, my favorite thing about, again, this is,
this seven-year-old drama at this point,
but it's still like really iconic to me.
You making a response video to Tati is,
mind you,
you hadn't even seen
Tatiana Westbrook's video at that point.
You were,
you went in,
you pressed a cord,
Matt,
hadn't even seen the video.
And then you're watching two minutes.
You pause your recording to watch her.
And then you pause Tati to continue the recording.
So it's a real-time reaction,
but like you went in pissed as hell of this woman,
not knowing,
anything. That's kind of fierce.
Yeah. Definitely what Shane being like
she's the worst, she's this. And you're just like
all right, yeah. Let me, I've ended a video today. So let's go
in on this and I was angry.
I know. I really try before I react to anything to like
take a minute, take a breather. I like
yesterday I saw TikTok. I don't even know
this person but he pops up a lot. I think because now I watch his full
videos through, I think he's a rage baiter. He married that
really pretty girl on TikTok. Remember I
talked about it. They have like this gorgeous wedding. She looks like Pamela Anderson.
He,
my preconceived notion just from what I see seems douchey, but then again, he's always
kind of like rage bitter. He's like, he goes, he's the one that was like filming and she's
signing the bill and he's like, I love this interaction. Like he just, he seems to like negative
interaction, which doesn't make sense though because like his wife is so beloved. Like she's
like beloved. She's like beautiful, kind, sweet like a like a Disney princess. And he doesn't come
across as an asshole, but then he does. So I think he likes rage bait. But I, he was like
doing a TikTok
yesterday.
And it actually like enraged me so much.
I was about to do Tati Damas again.
I was like going to like I was going to react and just scream.
But it was like, okay, so he talks about because now he's a stepdad.
He's around like parents more.
And he's like you, the thing that irks me the most being around parents now that I'm a stepdad.
And his son is like, his stepson is like five or six or something like that.
He's like is the fact that no parent, every parent thinks their kid is great,
that they're a genius, that they're a super athlete.
Like no one thinks their kid is just average.
Like, oh, my kid's so smart.
He's such a great reader.
No, he's, he's an average.
first-grade reader. And it's like he's like, how come nobody can just admit, why are we hyping all
these kids up? Like, they're not all going to be great. They're all not going to be star athletes.
Like, and I was just like, so. That's definitely range bait.
You think? Oh, yeah.
But he has a stepson that he talks about and he's with and stuff like that. Like, why would
you say that when you just became a step-parent? Because anything of that nature is like the most
outrageous, like it is causes immediate reaction. I think he was being, I think he thought he was
eating. I think it's real. I thought it was real. I mean, it could be, but his real
thought. Nature is like to say that out loud means that you want to get that you want to
angry those parents. I hate this person. I hate this person that. If that's really what he's doing,
is just saying this stuff because not only is so harmful to other parents and other kids,
what about your own steps on watching like one day? Like, it's just such, like, you have a
beautiful wife who's like a really, like seemingly good mom and stuff like that. It's like,
you say you want kids one day. It's like, why would you put that out there? Like, I would never
rage beat something about.
like when I have children be like, hey guys, who's feeding their kids breakfast?
Like, we should be, they should be intermittent fasting.
Like, if you want them to be athletic.
Like, it's such a crazy thing because then you assume my children are not eating breakfast
and I'm not feeding them.
So it's just like such a crazy thing.
Okay, well, if you rage mate, you got me because I made the TikTok today.
But also, you're just an awful person that, okay, then I change my mind.
Then I just hate this person.
I was like, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, whatever, because, you know,
you're like a new parent and whatever.
But then to be like, oh, I'm around.
All right.
Well, you got me.
But also, hype your kids up.
your kids should be the best in your eyes.
Your kids should be the superstar in your eyes.
No matter what my kids do, they're the best at everything.
And every kid should feel that way from their parent that they should feel.
Is that like, because some people think that's also like, oh, you shouldn't like give your kids like false hope or delusion.
But it's like.
Because I remember, especially like in the art world, I remember friends and people that like parents would be like, well, don't try to be an artist because like one in a million succeeds.
And I'm like, well, that's how you should view your son or daughter that they are that one in a million.
Yes.
Like that's where you.
That's how I think too.
Yeah, you definitely
I think it's okay
Especially when they're like five six at a very young age
I even think like not to bring up like the Northwest of all
But you know it's like you should
You know
Life prop like I don't know
It's your child you're gonna think they're the best
When Kim was like crying when she's like
What are those? These are close
You know what I mean?
Like she probably was emotional
Because like damn it's my baby up there
In front of all these people
No I agree to because the world is gonna be mean
To your kid like just regardless
Because that's how the world is
Like it's a lot of mean people in there
So like you
you need to have a good foundation for it.
Like, I was singing, can't really sing,
nor can I dance.
I was doing talent shows.
I was singing it.
And my parents loved it.
They were ruined me on.
And then I had,
I went on to discover I'm not a good singer.
But at least my parents believed in me along the way.
And look at you.
Look at you.
You're a performer.
You are a performer entertainer.
And honestly,
same.
I was not like a good singer dancer.
And I'm still not.
But guess who's selling outdoors?
Guess who's making money performing?
You know what you mean?
Like it's like,
I quoted this earlier, but like Renee Rapp, who's obviously a great singer,
someone asked her like, oh, how do you have the confidence?
He's like delusion.
And it's like, you should be able to give them that because confidence is everything.
I feel like that's one thing I proved.
I have so many people prove is like, if you have the confidence, you kind of can do anything.
Yeah.
And I think that's, I don't know.
Because because this guy also does like so much like positive, he's very like motivational.
I think he's sober.
So he does like a lot of like positive like motivational.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, I, okay.
In a way, I guess it's like better if he's right.
it's not better. But like, it's almost like, but you're also doing positive reinforcement to people.
So like when you put in rage bait, like you can't be a troll and a sincere person. Like you just can't.
And I think something is lost to loss. And actually makes me mad. I need to stop watching him too.
But like, damn, he keeps popping up. And he's like a good looking guy. So everyone's just like, I don't know.
They're like, yeah, I get what you're saying or whatever. But it's like your wife's beloved. You have a good story.
He works with little kids. He's like a coach. That's weird. Yeah. Right. That's what I just thought of now.
Most likely his parents did not support him in that way.
That's what my comment section was saying.
So then when he sees other kids being supported by their parents a certain way, he's like, you know, he's trying.
It hurts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It kind of hits a different way.
And he feels that thing that he didn't get.
And he's like, oh, you guys shouldn't do this.
But I'm not just thinking about it.
He's like a little league coach.
He talks about it all the time because he says his three jobs, take an influencer.
He's like a little league coach.
He's the same one that's like, I make $17,000 a week or $37,000 a week.
Because Shay was like, I'm the breadwinner.
His wife is Shay.
And he's like, I'm the breadwinner or whatever.
I love it.
And then he also said, like, I also make bread.
I make $30,000, $7,000 a week.
And you're just like, no one asked.
No one cared.
Obviously, your wife's making more.
So anyways, very weird.
Hated that so much.
And it was about to give me a tauty dumb as hell video.
He was about to get one.
But I was like, let me be.
It's probably very awkward on the field.
If he's coaching kids and the parents are like, he did great.
And he's like, no, he don't listen to your parents.
He did not do great.
He did not do great.
like you're not good, you suck.
There are people like that who think they're motivating kids by telling them that they're worthless.
Because the competitive world is different.
Like in the competitive world, you need to know exactly where you stand and what you're doing.
But kids are not there.
You know, they're still building up their confidence and their character.
I hate rage baiting.
I hate that everyone rage baits now and they get me to.
Isn't that crazy?
Like back on the day like trolling and everyone's like, it's cute.
It's trolling.
And like, oh, it's just like rage bait.
like same thing yeah and I think too especially now like when you're describing him I'm like I feel like
he knows that there's going to be a lot of people who don't like him so trolling or rage baiting is a way
to control it like yeah you're not liking me because I'm telling you to not like me basically
like it's like a control thing um where it's like yeah they don't like me and I'm cool with it
because I'm making them not like me that's what he says yeah he's like I'm making money every time
he does engage love it exactly I love here's what my haters bought me
He does that all that.
He did just get a new convertible.
And she's showing my husband's new convertible and stuff like that.
And I was just like, I guess that's what the haters bought him.
Do you really want to be like that when you're a little league coach and you have a little boy?
It's like, I don't know.
At what cost?
At what cost?
And I think it's like important to know because he has such a good story.
And I feel like you could be so motivational.
And they're just liked.
I feel like if you're a hated couple, okay, fine.
But it's like you're so like liked and she's so liked.
It's like, go that route.
Be like wholesome.
They're very Alex Earl.
Braxton coated.
Like they're very like wholesome and or they were.
But he's just making awful.
They had a really big wedding.
They had a really fancy wedding.
And I don't know.
Anyways, TikTok gets me sometimes.
It was raining yesterday.
So it kind of put me in a rainy mood.
You know what I mean?
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What is that big stick? What is that? Is that the Kayla, the Michaela one that she used? That green one?
This? Yeah, what is that called? Oh, this is just chapsic.
Oh, I feel like Michaela had that. Is it Starface? Yes. Is it a Korean brand?
I have no idea. I just saw it in the clearance section of like a CVS or something. Oh, it's really cute. It reminds me like a Michaela one she used wrong. You remember she used one?
Yeah, she used like a lip stick on her cheek and said it like took off all her foundation or something.
She made like a disparaging comment about it?
Yeah, it's like she got this drugstore.
It was a lipstick, kind of like this but bigger.
And she thought it was both for cheek and lip.
And I think there were some advertisements that did say it was for both cheek and lip.
So some people came to her defense, which is a rare occurrence.
Yeah.
And yeah, I forget who.
Maybe it was like a Jeffrey Starr or something.
Someone came to her defense saying it was advertised as both cheek and lip, but she was really mad because she was made for lips.
applied it on her cheek as a blush
took off like everything underneath.
Oh. Yeah. So, well, girl,
sometimes it's just oily skin too.
My oily skin is always coming off all the makeup and stuff like that.
She just did her reveal for $50,000 glam room.
I know. Can I tell you?
I don't know what this says about me.
Very that.
But I...
It's beautiful.
That's the guy.
But we just did...
We should show my glam room makeover. I just did a glam room makeover.
Yeah, you should have stolen the matures.
For a tenth of the cost.
I was like, I don't know about all that.
And I had the same tabletop in my...
my walking closet upstairs.
I was like,
I was like a fifth of that amount for everything.
It is suspicious, yeah.
The gage is,
I was ready to hate on it, to be honest,
when she was hyping it up and, like,
getting ready for reveal.
I was like, I was seated.
I was like, let me take this thing
because I know it's going to be tacky as hell.
Mind you, I'm a hater from like the privacy of my own home.
Like, I don't leave a disparaging comment.
I just relished.
Well, and on the podcast.
Well, yes.
I think if I hated it, I wouldn't have said it on here,
but the guy, it did look good.
You loved it.
You kind of ate with that.
I was expecting it to be tacky boots.
Like, although it's quiet as it's kept.
I feel like we do have similar aesthetics, both me and Michaela, Michaela Naga.
But, yeah, I did like her glam room.
It was beautiful.
I just, gosh, it's just like, I guess it's like the nature of what is that called?
Construction.
What is that called?
Renovation.
Renovation is just like overcharging.
Because it's like, damn, when we get it at cost, obviously, like, Moses knows all the spots and stuff like that.
And you know when somebody, someone, you know, when somebody,
says they paid $50,000 for something and you're just like okay but that would not be $50,000
but I guess that's what it is I guess it's markup in the construction world or what do you call it
renovation yeah and then well me contractors are contractors that's very there's a wide range and some
are honest and unfortunately a lot of not a lot of them are very shady now the more rich you look
the more the price will go up and a lot of times they will walk in telling you this
going to be the cost, but then as they go into the job, the cost will inflate and inflate and inflate.
Okay, got that part. I'd even tell you about that. We wanted to do this like little cute kids,
the lighthouse thing. Remember at that call? And then they sent me like a little screen of like
everything that it was going to cost. I was like, oh, it's kind of expensive, but okay. But then
when we were like getting through it more, shake, oh, here's the add-ons. And I was like,
the add-ons were like, oh, if you want us to talk to like the manufacturers on how to get
this built. And I was like, wait, what do you mean? She goes, well, if you want us to talk to
people getting built, it's going to be another $8,000. And then if you want us to help you
with materials, it's another $8,000.
So this price doesn't include materials,
build, setup, nothing.
It was just the design.
$48,000 for a single design of a little children's,
like literally the size of this corner,
like literally so small.
That's why I was hesitant.
Design only.
That's why I was hesitant because I knew basically what it's probably going to be.
And then they give you the design.
Then like, oh, well, you can take it to it.
I said, oh, my husband does works with contractors.
Oh, well, he can give it to them and this or whatever like that.
I'm like, so what is the $40,000?
Like, oh, we give you the design.
I'm like, well, you're designing all day long.
You're always sketching in a little paper.
I was just like, and you get the dimensions.
You have the dimensions for them.
I'm like, well, here's the demand.
Like, here's everything.
Like, he already sketched it.
Like you remember when I built them that little Barbie house, the real size one?
Yeah.
Like that they're basically trying $50,000 for that.
$48,000 does include materials talking to the people set up costs for a design.
I mean, like, is that great?
I mean, I get it.
I'm definitely dying pay artists for their work and creators.
Like for what is there's a,
40,000 is kind of crazy, right?
For a little...
There are different brackets.
Like, if you're a billionaire and you want to do something, you pay that.
It's a small room, though.
Right, but that's what they do.
They pay that if you're not...
Like, there's different brackets in design.
They're not in that bracket.
And you see it even in furniture.
Like, you go to furniture stores.
There's so many brackets.
And it's endless, right?
So...
But the more involved the person is, the more they'll charge.
$40,000 is the base.
I was scared to see what was coming out there.
Oh, my God.
That was crazy.
I was like, okay, maybe not, maybe we can just, we'll just, we can make it.
Yeah.
We can make it.
That was wild.
I mean, we've always done all the work for it.
I guess that is what, um, it looks great.
Yeah, Michaela's looks great.
Probably don't have to say the price tag because then he just also like gets people just hating
because of how much it was and that also be like, okay, 50,000 is a lot for what it came out.
But I guess marble.
But her mind, like her mind, like her mind works a different way than ours.
And her is like, I'm going to, like people are going to appreciate it or people are going to, like,
I'm putting back.
into the environment where I work and what I do for you guys.
It's like she's saying I'm investing 50,000 in you.
That is great.
You know, people.
I love the optimism.
I'm just saying her mind doesn't think that it's going to be perceived negatively.
That's all right.
I think she might be rage baiting.
I think she has to be rage baiting.
A million for that.
I love the optimism.
I love how your mind where your mind is going.
I think I just am a little too familiar with her game.
Yeah.
Me getting at Pink Girls' Rights.
This is for you guys.
I'm always in my car.
You guys should be looking at something bright and beautiful.
Like, could never.
I think for that reason, could never.
It's just like so insane.
It's so wild.
I think coming from the woman who has this series,
here's what my haters bought me.
And it's like 10 Birkins.
I think that she's trying to show off
and she's trying to get people upset.
From the woman who is doing like,
let me, my refrigerator, my refrigerator is empty.
I need to go and then buys so much groceries
that like her and her boyfriend cannot possibly finish.
a week. But then she said Zach, and then she's like, Zach bought all this
groceries like, okay, so random. And then everyone's just like, we can't, we can't eat.
We can't eat. We, our fridge is empty because we can't afford it. You said your fridge is
empty because people are leaving you hate comments. And it's like, girl.
It's got a little serious. Not the same. Oh my God. Well, they're doing something right, I guess.
The other guy's making $37,000 a week. So whatever, I guess rage pays, which is so annoying.
It's temporary, though. It's like how long can you sustain it? It's going to, the pendulum's going
swing again. Yeah and it doesn't feel good for your energy. You know, just
constantly focusing on haters and negative comments. Like it's just not a good, it's not a good
vibe. And you would know. I wouldn't know. And you'll never, you'll never live it down
because one thing we learn is internet's forever and you'll always have clips come up and you
will always have to face them and you either turn off the comments or you just face them
and you just got to face them. And consequences of your own actions really. Yeah.
Mine too. And it sucks. So anyways, you know rage baited, have you?
No, I think I'm too anxious to rage bait. I'll do like a little troll. Like a little
like I'll mispronounce a word or something. Do you? Yeah. Oh my God, I didn't know that.
Yeah, like I'll mispronounce a word. On purpose. Yes. Yes. I'm not there's one. There was one word I said wrong
on purpose. What? Because then everyone in the comments trying to correct. Yes. Yeah. And I.
Oh, that's just, yeah, a little engagement farming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do something like that. But I'm too anxious. Like
really rage weight and also like two people pleasey and like not wanting to offend so I would be too
scared yeah yeah a cute troll is cute for sure yeah when you're like have a kid and you're like don't
help your kids up their average a shit like then it's like you're weird yeah saying something that's
purposely going to offend or make someone to feel bad I just really couldn't because I'm way too
anxious to do that same same same someone I'm not too anxious to make fun of those mr. beast
and he has a new book out oh a memoir not a memoir um a fiction novel a
that he wrote in wrote i use the term loosely in collaboration with james patterson
okay that's great yes who did he write it i don't know that i'm also going to use it loosely for
mr patterson as well um wait why he doesn't write his own books i mean he's like an author no
these days he put james patterson puts out a lot of books and he partners with a lot of big
celebrities um he's co-authored books with belly partner and bill and bill clinton like some of those are
some of the big names that he's worked with.
Like he writes with them?
Yes.
He has like a lot of ghost writers because he just,
he puts out so many books a year that there's no like feasible way.
He could possibly be sitting at that.
He's sitting at that.
He's sitting at these tails himself.
Yeah.
But I think he has a lot of brand recognition like the name James Patterson.
You kind of know the style of story.
Real person?
Have we seen him?
Is it a real man?
That's an excellent question.
Putting out books.
You know what I mean?
Just like a person under a person.
under a pen name.
Or like just a brand, like a company.
Yeah.
Okay, he is an old white man, yes.
Okay.
I imagine just has like a lot of writers in his company that are just like ghost writing these.
Yeah.
Which is fairly common.
Like I've read some of his books in the past because I like a good, you know,
fast-paced thriller mystery.
Don't really have to think too much about it.
And then obviously in the credits page you'll see who the actual, you know,
writer is of the book.
But he collaborated with Mr. Beast on the most dangerous game, which came out last Tuesday.
And it is unsurprisingly being panned as just a very bad book.
And also like Mr. Beast fans, are they like really trying to read a James Patterson novel?
That is the gag.
So the way that he advertised this book was quite interesting.
He said, growing up, I thought books were boring.
In reality, I just didn't read anything that actually interested me.
Mr. Beast said this.
Mr. B said this.
Oh, my God.
Love.
advertising a book by saying I hate reading.
Like, okay.
The most...
Oh my God, that's so funny.
Which is why I teamed up with James Patterson to write the most dangerous games.
For many people, this might be the first book they actually read and hopefully enjoy.
Ha-ha.
Give it a read and tell me what you think.
So it essentially is just like a Mr. Beast video in book form.
At first I was like, well, okay, if it's like a kid's book, then, you know, whatever.
At least it's getting kids to read.
And then the gag is, it's actually.
not aimed at like middle graders is actually aimed for adults like it's marketed towards
adults not even like y a which i thought was so interesting oh so like a thick novel and it's like
a real novel and it's yeah it's being advertised to the adult reader uh group does he know that
jimmy know that i know t i'm like he doesn't know he's like hope kids will read it's like not for kids
yeah and this is what i thought was so funny is um the pre-sale
leaked for like the pre-orders for the book and they were like really surprisingly low.
What was it?
So according to publishing gossip, pre-orders for the book numbered in the four digits,
which is a vanishingly small number for our title rumor to be subject to a deal of over
$1 million with Harper Collins.
Damn, damn.
Four figure pre-order, which is not that surprising.
The book also costs $30.
So it's like at market price.
So it's like if you can watch Mr. Beast video for free, who's going to pay $30 for a similar thing.
Yeah, because it's just like not his demographic, which is so weird.
Like stick to the little lunchable things.
Like they love those.
You know what I mean?
Like that's your demographic.
They're going to school.
They want some lunchies.
So we'll see how the sales go because after it came out, this is where Jimmy strikes.
He posted a video that if you buy the book, you can win a,
$1 million prize.
So basically it's kind of like a golden ticket.
I know.
It's kind of like bribing people to go buy a book.
It's like a lottery ticket, essentially.
But a $30 dollar lottery ticket.
Like legal.
I know.
The whole thing with David and all that stuff is like, you know, you to buy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some kind of FTC thing.
Like it's always should be like no purchase necessary, right?
It's like that.
It is like gambling.
That is weird.
Uh-huh.
So.
Was he doing, was Mr.
Beast doing this before with something else?
Was there a gambling thing or no?
Was that was it David that I'm thinking of?
I think you both.
Was there a Mr. Beast one?
David had that.
The puzzle.
What's the Mr. Peace one?
I swear there was a Mr. Beast one, same thing.
I just think every video I think of is do something win money.
Yeah.
Oh, I see.
And I think with the chocolate too, right, wasn't there something you could win?
That's what it sounded like, yeah.
Oh, there was like cash in there.
Yeah.
Okay, that's what I was thinking.
I guess he knows the loopholes around it, but still weird.
Like you said, they should have made like a little young adult, like very Joey
Grysafel, like something where like when your fans get a little older, they'll like,
I can read this book now, you know?
Yeah.
So weird.
Probably the.
way they do it is that you can still sign up to that lottery without buying the book but usually
they don't advertise that it's in the fine print oh i see yeah like you can still well you're
not going to read it no certainly i'm not going to read it um the reviews for it were very bad everyone
said it was like very boring and the concept of it is very interesting as well it's basically like
a squid game style knockout competition and they're in search to find quote
unquote the one.
So it's kind of like the character, very that.
Like who is the mocking jay essentially?
Like who is going to be the one to unite the world and solve all the world's problems?
The special chosen one wins a billion dollars and then also like solves all the world's issues.
And they battled through snake infested forest.
They traversed through glaciers, punched sharks in the nose and things like that.
It's like Harry Potter too.
Very that.
Just like we heard all these stories before.
And I think Mr. Beast is not giving me.
us anything new?
What's the cover look like?
Anything fun?
No, it just says like the most dangerous game like in text and then yeah, it's like kind
of very graphic like not even anything like super gripping or anything.
And also he is a character in the games himself.
Yeah, it's very odd.
He in the book he's like the host of the games but then he becomes a contestant in
Mr. Beast.
Jimmy Donaldson himself.
Yes.
So he wrote allegedly.
Someone wrote him.
He wrote him as the character.
the book, yeah.
So odd.
Yeah, very weird.
Is he doing the audiobook?
Great question.
Did he narrate it?
I guess can he read?
We will find out.
That's what we need to know.
Because not everybody can.
When I did my audiobook, she had said that.
She has not everybody can read.
I believe it.
Well, you know why?
Because people like that guy on TikTok being like they're just an average reader.
Why even bother reading?
You don't encourage them.
It's like you should encourage everybody.
Even if they have a learning disability, just encourage them.
Yeah.
Reading is very important, actually.
It's fundamental, some would say.
Yeah.
Very much.
there are people who can't read and you're just like
No but also it's not just read
Let's say I can read it
But I'm not going to be able to read the audiobook
Like you have to read it a certain
Because I saw your videos
Like you're acting a little bit
In the reading
You don't think Jimmy can do that?
No he's not
He can only do that smile
That you know without
What smile was it?
I just saw a video about how you can identify psychopaths
If they smile and their eyes don't
Close
Like move with the smile
It's only the mouth
Everything above that doesn't move
That's usually
I just saw I just did TikTok like that
I just the trailer for the Nathan Fielder movie
With Elizabeth Holmes
Oh my God
And she's the same way
And she's like why would I deceive you
I have nothing to deceive you for
Like I couldn't look
So scary
And I felt like something was happening
And I was like no no
And you can see Nathan is like fighting it
It's fighting it's fighting
What was happening though
Because it's like
Was it all acting?
That's really her.
That's really Elizabeth Holmes.
Yeah.
It's so interesting.
Yeah.
Why were they so close?
Why was he so acting to?
He had access to her before she went to prison.
37 days before.
She's like come film this movie.
And Nathan Fielder, who else's someone else big producing or something like that?
It's the producer who is doing prime time, the Robert Pattinson in 824 movie.
824.
They're both 824.
She's not 824.
I love you.
And it was the surprise documentary that no one knew happened or screened.
And it's like a real documentary with Elizabeth Holmes and Nathan Fielder doing the interview doing the whole.
And it premiered, yes, last night at Telaride.
Oh, it's already premiered.
Yeah.
So people are like, people say there's like a big famous actress involved in it too and they just don't want to spoil it.
Like there's a big reveal like an actress comes into it somehow.
Do you know anything?
Do you know any spoilers?
No. No.
Like this was a complete surprise.
That's why I was very confused when I heard about it.
Yeah.
Because I mean, anytime a movie is just like in development or in the works like you hear about it.
Yeah.
so quickly.
But yeah, it was like just a totally top secret documentary.
Nathan Fielder.
I think he said he lived with Elizabeth Holmes during the process of making this.
Like, actually lived at her home.
It is very interesting.
But why was the trailer like that?
Why was it so, why was he so close?
Why was he almost acting?
Because he was like, he's like terrified.
He's like gulping.
He's like, but you're so close to each other.
This is smart.
Someone said the editing was like purposely deceptive though, because in the trailer,
you kind of see Elizabeth like rocking.
And then in the wide shot,
she's rocking her baby off camera.
So she's trying to like sue the baby.
Oh.
So yeah, it is interesting.
The baby's involved.
The baby's there off camera.
She's there with the baby and like rocking and trying to sue her baby.
But that's why she like looks like she's like a little like that's such a tight shot.
And she's like rocking back and forth.
And he's all up in her face too.
I'd be like, get back.
Like why are we so close to each other?
Yeah.
It's very odd.
Something feels odd about it.
What's the angle?
And I love the poster.
Do you see the poster?
Let me see.
You can see everything, but she's blurred.
Her face is completely blurred.
And they said that's the title because she wouldn't let anyone see the medical, right?
That was the whole thing.
Like no investors actually saw the medical equipment that she was.
Right.
Because we watched the movie, the Amanda C-Fried one, where what was the whole thing?
What was she even selling to people?
Well, it was about blood test.
Without a prick, right?
It was like no needles and you could get your blood.
Yeah, because you need.
Because that's what you need is to be able to get all that information you get from a blood test quickly and cheaply.
And she, like, sold us to Walgreens and Walgreens couldn't even see the monitor.
What a crazy scam.
And then she's, like, tweeting last night.
She's like, love this.
And I was like, girl, aren't you in prison?
Like, how are you tweeting?
It was so bizarre.
But she is in prison right now.
And she is tweeting.
Well, people have access to internet in prison.
Yeah, like the Tiger King was tweeting when he was in prison too.
Yeah.
There's different levels of prison.
They have, okay, so they're not isolated.
They have, like, access.
the outside world.
Dev TV, cable, internet, books, libraries, especially if you're not, you know, a criminal,
like a violent criminal or like white-collar criminals.
They're basically like in a summer camp.
Which is crazy.
They should actually give them more punishment because it's like you got away with this because
you're rich.
But now we're going to be.
You have a poor rich person to lose their freedom is somewhat painful.
Why did she do that?
I think she is a little bit.
She looks on a different, like the.
wrong spectrum. No, she's on a
she looks crazy. I mean,
that movie, I mean, I only know
from the movie, but she seems insane.
Why would you? Because it wasn't real, right? There was no
technology she invented. She just kind of claimed it.
No, they were like fake it until you make it, but they just never
make it. That guy on TikTok needs to talk to her. Be like,
you're actually just average and getting, because
sometimes people have too much delusion. So maybe that's where
he was coming from. Maybe he saw this. It was like, she had too much
confidence. The issue is that
people bought into her delusion. That was the problem.
That's true.
Walgreens like, let's have someone go inspect this machine.
And you're like, no.
It's like, well, I'm not going to give you my money until I see it.
Because there's always bubbles in Silicon Valley.
And she was at the right time, at the right place.
And people, like, people have money and they want to invest it.
And they want to be in the next, you know, Uber, Groupon, whatever.
They want to be in the next.
And she came in and they were like, this is the next thing.
So it's just threw billions of dollars at her.
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people are throwing billions of dollars at it and now she has a movie she's probably
on dancing with the stars when she gets out in 2031 I'm sure she will I mean that's around
the corner it is around she probably get out for really good behavior it will be the year you
get on it will be the and then she wins she's with Ezra I was like damn it's like Delvey
what's my name yeah she's gonna go the same route oh my god I'm excited is this movie
is gonna be in theaters I'd watch it yes October 16th I believe I was weirdly invested in
that movie I was like a series yeah on Hulu
Did you watch it?
No.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, I think she won a lot of Emmys.
Amanda Seifred for it.
Oh, it was a great.
It was a great show.
That's when you got fixated on Saeed.
Yeah, Navini Andrews.
That is where it started from.
And he was like in his 50s and they made him have like a gut in this movie and so like that.
But I was like, I love this actor.
He's so cute.
We need to watch him more things.
So then I looked it up and I saw that he was in Lost for eight seasons.
So I'm like, oh, my God, we need to watch Lost.
And you're like, oh, I've seen Lost.
You're not going to like it.
And I was glued to Lost.
I loved Lost.
probably one of my favorite shows.
My favorite too.
And I couldn't imagine us sitting together watching laws.
It was so good.
And he was the star.
Saeed was one of the stars.
I loved him so much,
Navine Andrews.
And I did fall in love with him at the drop.
Not fall in love.
That sounds crazy.
But like, liked him in the dropout.
So I guess my soul connection.
Thank you.
I'm going to start using that now when I talk about people.
My soul is connected to him.
I don't know what to say to Navine Andrews in that much out.
And I'm going to see Frieda was great in it too.
That was my top three.
Did you see my tweets last night?
Are you on Twitter?
I saw it.
I saw it somewhere else because I think you then took your tweets into stories on Instagram.
That's how good they were.
That was how gold they were.
I know.
I was just because we were in bed for us how long.
I say this before we started.
Our kids were in bed really early last night because they didn't have a nap or anything.
And they were playing all day.
They were running.
We were running around so much.
And like seven, like six 45.
Before Aquaman, they fell asleep, both the girls.
And so we're all just like laying in bed together.
And I was just like, you were out doing something.
So I was like, I guess I'll just.
And I had to be quiet.
So I'm on Twitter and Instagram.
So I was just like, it was fun, though.
It was fun because I liked polls and interaction.
That's when I saved all the photos of me in different apartments.
And so I wanted to talk to people.
And I had no new content.
So I was like, let me find this stuff.
And it was great.
It made me fall asleep.
It took me three hours to do all that stuff.
And I had a top three.
Were you talking about top three last time?
Or was it Tana?
No, it was Tana.
Top three, like fast food.
Did we talk about that?
No.
No, no, no.
It must have been Tana.
Are you sure?
I think so.
We did a Patreon.
We did a new top three?
Oh, we ranked nuggets.
Okay.
Okay.
So that's maybe where it was.
I was like, wait, we did top three, and my top three TV shows were Desper Housewives, Lost, and Bridgeton.
And then my top three restaurants were Arby's, Dominoes, and Chili's.
And my top three protein was steaks, eggs, and, oh, the fair life.
I had one today, 42 grams of protein.
I love a top three.
It's very David Letterman back in the day.
Anyways, that was really, anyways, I always said I was invested in Elizabeth Holmes because of that
movie. But she seems crazy. Those eyes are giving
crazy eyes. And that is a good example of being a little too delusional.
Yeah, someone who does need to be humbled. But again, I think the world has humbled her,
right? Oh, you would think. It's trying. The world is trying. The world is trying.
The world is trying. When did he become serious all of a sudden? Is he known for being like,
you worked with him before. Did you know? I was on season one. I'm anything for you.
And he was weird. He was so weird. I always get weird.
vibes remember that serious TV show we tried to watch the emma stone remember that one i try to watch that
too so weird because i love emma stone oh and i thought i liked nathan feel that he was so depressing
or that show is depressing you liked it i couldn't get into it i didn't get past the first episode same and
it's like he's so serious and everything now and this he looks serious his message was always serious
behind the satire and the craziness then Nathan for you yeah like he always had some not my episode
it was just like oh you like someone with big boobs trisha come on in he like rewarded the guy for being a
perfect because the guy was like hiding in the little video game.
I mean, I knew he was.
They told me, but like the video game and he just like was distracted by my boobs.
So then they brought him back to be like, oh, you want to date her?
She got big boobs.
What's the deeper meaning behind that?
Men's weakness to big boobs.
I loved it because at the time, I don't think I had fake implants.
I thought I was so, like I'm like this hot little bit.
It was weird.
We still getting every couple of months a check for a seven to eight dollars from making for you.
Shout out Nathan Bealner.
It was a weird show from beginning to end.
And he never broke character and he was being weird.
had something recently about airplane safety and if he he does things like randomly that
he finds something that's what i'm saying i feel like his transition now is being like an environmentalist
and like a i don't know or like a world change like you know he's trying to do something with this documentary so
it's like when he becomes so serious i think he was always in him but just you know sometimes you have to
go through the comedy and the satire to get to the serious stuff and now that he has fame and money he's
trying to make a difference okay i like that
Yeah, people think he's behind that boy throb.
Do you know them?
No, but I know flop cast are stands.
Yeah, the pink track suit.
Yes, they bought the track suits.
Everyone stands at Anthony and Jonathan in the kitchen floor.
They love the kitchen floor, the kitchen counter.
They're like, they love boy throb, they like are friends.
And anyways, it's like this like boy group.
Boy, yes.
It's like a boy band parody, question mark.
I guess I think it's a parody.
They started out singing like retirement homes.
And they're good singers.
They're good singers.
but yeah we always get tagged on their stuff uh yeah and then their whole bit was like
their fourth member darshan couldn't come over because he was in india and he needed to get his visa
now he's got his visa so he's coming over but he hasn't been over here and it's like this long
strong out process of years and people have always been talking about him and you know i don't really
get that kind of like satire i'm not really i don't know i think they're like cute and good
looking or whatever but i don't get those like ironic jokes or i don't know i don't really
i'm not in on that so it's not for me but everyone thinks nathan feelers behind it they're
like he's going to like come out and say that he was
I don't know what the prank would be
it's like everyone does like them yeah
I guess a social experiment
of what though are like making a band
and just seeing
yeah because the boy bands are
that's how bands come to be on TikTok
and I think they're trying to be ironic
and they're like pink jumpsuits and go like I think they're trying to be like
funny but
I don't really get humor that
yeah you don't like an ironic character
I don't
I don't like characters.
That's that part.
Yeah, I'm very picky and choosy with the character.
Name one character.
You like...
Like a Terry Joe.
Like a character like that is just so funny.
Yeah.
Even that I don't necessarily get too much, but I love Keylawn so much.
So I go with it.
I don't know what it was.
Like I went through a phase where I would just watch re-uploads of Sci-Iconics TikTok
Lives like on YouTube because I would always miss them live.
Yeah.
So I'd watch them.
I would fall asleep to Terry Joe, which is like really crazy.
It's not very calming, but I mean, it did the trick with me.
Chuby had a Terry Joe movie, too.
I know.
No, and I appreciate it because obviously he was using my I Love You Jesus song.
And I was just like, you know, if I'm in on something that I'm down to be.
But it's, yeah, characters.
I know.
I don't like him.
Mystery Fantasy is another one that's like really popular.
And that's K.J. Appa from previously Riverdale.
And he's like a big star.
And he's like still friends with everyone in Riverdale, like Lily Reinhard and Camilla Mendez and Cole and Dylan Spouse.
But and people love Mr. Fantasy.
They take, they email me tagging all of him, Mr. Fantasy.
And I finally like them.
I think you were telling me Mr.
I was like.
I was like, like, absolutely not.
But do they like him or to me it's more like industry.
Like it's not so much that's.
He has a lot of fans.
Like when we cover him for like in entertainment news, like those interviews all do really well.
And like, Denny Director will interview him in character and ask about KJ.
Apa.
who he really is and you're like oh i hate kj appa like it's so it's very odd it's so not your tea
kjabba is a little charming to me so he kind of gets away with it but it's not really like my thing either
really terry jo is kind of like the only character for me that i can like really get it's no chanty baluga i really
wanted to just all the gays loved it's chanee beluga for a second couldn't really get into that either
but chanti beluga marina sings proud to say it never was a fan there was never one video where i'm like i love marinas
She's so funny.
Like, people who just really thought
Joey really thought that she was the funniest.
He thought this is so funny.
Joey catching straight every episode.
He's a good sport.
That's why he takes it.
Yeah, people, I don't know.
I just don't like, yeah, I don't like her.
You're right.
That's what it is.
I don't like ironic characters.
Yeah.
Because it's like, not funny.
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I don't know.
Nathan Fielder might fall under to that category,
actually, because I feel like he was like a character
on his show, Ethan for you.
Yeah, definitely.
Dead pan.
I still don't get it, but,
but I guess like if I'm part of it
and I like that people and people like it.
Then I'm like, okay.
The other one I did, what was the other one I did with those?
There was another other characters.
I was around the same time because I did Nathan for you.
Tim Narek.
They're also ironic.
Do you know any of them?
They were on like adult swim.
I don't know, cartoon network.
And I did a song called, I don't know.
I don't really get their characters.
But the guy that I was like on the date with, I don't know which one's Tim,
which one's Eric.
He had like a bunch of pubic hair coming out of his pants.
And I was like on a date with him.
It was very weird.
And I was like, I don't get any of this.
but I took it.
It was a job.
It was $500.
And I had to meet them at the corner of like Santa Monica and like Highland.
I meet on the corner.
We're going to film here.
And it was for Cartoon Network, but shady as hell.
I have two really quick, because I mentioned Joey Grycalfa and I have two really quick Joey related topics.
Yeah.
One is so random.
Okay.
In the connection of Joey Grycefa is also random in this one, Anthony Padilla, who was once Joey Grysuffa's roommate?
Okay.
That's very Moses.
this Benz and Bootops were in Mormon.
It was not lost on me, but that's how my brain works.
It's like very redstring connecting.
Because I saw this TikTok and I feel like you could be gagged by this as someone who once knew it had beef.
I was going to pretend that didn't happen, but I did.
Let's just elephant in the room.
Someone who once had beef with Anthony Pithia.
Anyway.
I'm still not to stand by that beef hindsight.
I remember he was, I was clearly so mentally ill.
And then he just like him and his girlfriend at the time was attacking me and called me trash.
And I was.
And then I went off.
And I kind of stand by myself on that one.
Sometimes I have to look at old clubs.
I'm like, were you in the wrong?
We're in the right?
Yes, I think I went a little crazy afterwards.
But he kind of pushed me.
And I was just like, damn, okay.
I thought I related to something in your video.
And you're like, wow, what a freak trash.
And I was like, damn, okay.
Yeah.
I think your delivery in your response could have been better.
I think the point does make sense, especially in retrospect,
knowing what you have since been actually diagnosed.
Yes, yes.
It all makes sense.
Yeah.
Totally.
But I saw a TikTok and I had no idea.
this was happening.
He is dating the singer Lights.
I saw it.
Yeah, who also Joey Gressava is a stand of, so double whammy.
Wow.
I should ask Joey how he feels about this.
But anyway, yeah, he's dating this Canadian singer Lights who is in an open marriage.
What?
Oh, this is the part of it too.
Yeah.
So Anthony Padilla from Smosh is dating Lights, who's a Canadian singer-songwriter.
And she is married, but in an open marriage, and they're Polly.
I just thought it was so fascinating.
An art I never saw for Anthony Padilla.
Well, I'm in to Mikey.
I guess they broke up three years ago.
So we just missed a whole big chapter.
Damn, they were like obsessed with each other.
They're the ones who called me trash.
Well, yeah.
Okay.
Damn.
Oh my God.
I did see this.
Okay.
So weird.
Okay.
Like, definitely no judgment on open marriages, do you?
But like knowing Anthony being such a romantic in all his relations.
Like, I feel like he always is getting his heartbroken right, like with Kala.
And then Mikey.
Like, he's always seems.
to be the one that's like 100% in
and the girls are always kind of like, I don't know about you.
So I'm kind of surprised he's like that
with her because
he doesn't seem like the type who's
able to share. Is that what it's called? I don't know.
Be open or is he with
he's not with the husband.
No, like I guess from what I read,
Lice's husband
also has a partner.
So yeah, they're just
Polly. Yeah, it's so interesting. I think I'm more
guy because I, again, I just didn't see if Anthony Padee out.
Granted, I never really followed him that closely or anything.
but I guess just from what I knew of him.
But he also looks very different.
And to quote Morgan Adams, you grew and changed, so why can't Anthony Padilla?
For sure.
For sure.
No, because he's never was problematic, right?
Like, he never was like a problematic person.
No, no.
Yeah, so I think he's fine.
Obviously, just our little beef.
I was like, why are you talking me?
I literally just like, oh, I see myself in this video.
Maybe I have that.
And then he's like, fuck you.
I was like, oh, my God.
My only, not beef, what is it?
My only critique is the people who are like 40 that like want to be seven.
Like he still has like that 17 year old like smosh-esque haircut and you're just like, okay, but why are we?
It's giving my TikTok where I'm like 38 year old who looks 18.
It's like like he gives me that constantly.
Like he's always in like some like thick leather cuff or something and like his like hair combed and it's just like.
He kind of gives Jake Weber T's a little bit to me.
Yeah, but Jake Weber's 28.
I know exactly.
I think Anthony Bidia is like for literally 40 and that's no shade.
Okay, my age.
So we're the same.
We're both.
I'm literally 142.
We're both literally the same age.
And you're cosplay and Olivia Rodriguez.
So I.
so really period period period but mine is trauma his is maybe he's trauma too i don't know his story
i think you guys have some trauma i think his mom too i think i don't know very little one time i saw a
draw my life with his and i think he had i think he did like i think something happened to him as a kid so
i'm so sorry anthony i'm glad you're healing keep the emo bangs we like them
I guess I just, yeah, I have maybe a little grievance.
I mean, he healed fully from that.
He didn't make the book there.
It didn't traumatize me that much.
Yeah.
Sorry, Anthony.
Yeah.
Maybe the deluxe version.
I don't know.
It wasn't even the extended cut.
It wasn't even on the cutting room floor.
It was literally forgot about it, but probably for the best.
That's wild, but hopefully, what was her name, glam and Gore?
Hopefully she's doing okay.
Oh, yeah, Mikey.
I saw randomly again, she popped up on my TikTok too.
Oh.
She was doing like an ad for a movie or something.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
And she looks the exact same, which was crazy.
Because I haven't seen her in so long and she just looks like identical.
She'd be, hello, what she?
Hello, zombies.
Oh, yes.
Is that what you said?
I can't do her accent.
Hello zombies.
She was like the VF special effects.
Yeah.
It was pretty cool.
I remember the, I think their boyfriend was a reveal was her taking off.
She did special effects makeup on him and she was like, my boyfriend and then she's like
taking it off to reveal.
Yeah, I remember that.
And people were gagged.
I'm just not gagged by Anthony Padilla, but
Is Joey still friends with him?
I don't think so.
Well, he did
that series
that you,
your drama stem from.
He did one like that.
Like a,
like he sat down with Anthony and did the,
I'm Joey Grosoph for a day,
whatever the series was,
like the purple set.
Oh, the OG YouTube originally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So maybe they are friendly.
I don't know, but.
They're not like friend friends.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so crazy that they're,
they were roommates at one point.
I remember that.
Joy was everyone's roommate though.
Very true.
I forgot about that.
Carbara 17.
Yeah, Strawberry 17.
He was all in those Miranda scenes videos.
Yeah.
Post breakup.
Yeah.
That's right.
Oh yeah.
Then he went over to go collab with all the London people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He really was just.
He does love a roommate.
Now Nikita dragging.
He loves roommates.
People do love roommates.
Not kind of a roommate, but.
Yeah.
I don't like people in my space too much.
I guess that's just the us thing.
Yeah.
I think it is just other.
I was talking about, what else I say was it just us thing?
I think Patreon.
Someone's like, I wish, like, do you, are you an Oscar close friends?
Are you guys should hang out more?
I'm like, we are close friends, but we're close friends because we both don't like
hanging out with anyone or leaving our house.
We're close.
We see each other.
We're so close.
This is our version of hanging out.
That's what I say.
I said, you and Tana are my best friends and I only see you guys when I podcast,
but that's so, that's a lot.
That's very normal for me to be honest.
That's what I said.
I think we're the same.
Tanna very opposite.
She has like 5,000 friends that she's always doing something with, but.
Kyle her. I was like, Jesus.
Like a vintage computer. I was like, okay, damn.
I remember she told me, I think she told me last week.
She was, yeah. She goes, oh, she asked me to make a video for Kyle's birthday.
And then she said, we're doing a montage. Like, oh, that's so sweet. That's so nice.
Like, you're so thoughtful. Like, I make your gifts are always so thoughtful.
And that's why I love about you. And then she was, and I also got on a car.
I was like, okay.
It's like, damn. Love that.
David Dobrick T's for sure.
She loves buying a car.
She does love buying a car. I wonder how the logistics of that work.
You just go pay cash? Because I don't want to have it like that. I couldn't just go pay cash.
Or do you, like, put the down payment?
Like, okay, here, you just make the payments.
That actually is such a good question.
Like, what are the logistics of it?
Like, in our interview coming up this week,
that he also got a car from Benji got a car.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
And I'm like, what are the logistics of influencers buying other influencers car?
You put under your name.
You put under their name.
Because when you leave, you have to show insurance and your name and a title.
Like, how the hell does that work?
It seems very complicated.
I mean, both are nice.
If it was me giving me some car, but like, you know what it was?
I want to say,
I think it was David Doberk.
Someone in that group, if it wasn't David, it was someone else,
they would buy cars, but they would only buy the down payment down.
And then the other person would have takeover payments.
I want to say that was, God, I can't remember who or when, but I remember that.
And I was like, oh, so you didn't really buy them a car.
You're just like, here's a payment.
Yeah.
So, good.
Yeah, I guess it depends on what the payment is.
Right.
If it's reasonable, then, yeah.
And also, do they get to pick the car or you just, like, stuck them with a car.
They don't want them.
They're not making payments on it.
Yeah.
We ask people who got cars bought for them.
Yeah, we should do a...
Seems like a lot to just buy a car for someone.
I barely buy a car for myself and you get a new car.
I feel like we talked to Brooke when she got a car, but I forget what she said.
I know, me too.
When she got the Bronco.
I wonder if she still has...
I mean, I guess it's only two years old, so she should still have it, right?
Yeah, but people trade in cars all the time.
Yeah.
That's our going to be our docu series, our Anthony Padilla Nachos.
Yeah, following up with the people David bought cars for.
Like, what is it?
I didn't see that one.
I thought that was so interesting.
I was like, oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's crazy.
And my other semi-Jew-Grisuffa-related one is I felt like Joy Grysuffa because I was telling you before I got invited to go see the Hunger Games movies in theaters.
Yeah.
So I went to go see the first one, Hunger Games and catching fire in theaters.
I felt very Joey Gershepa when he was interviewing Jennifer Lawrence and going to the premieres and stuff.
I'm hoping this is the soft launch of me going to the Hunger Games premiere.
Now I'm just going to say it because I'm honest.
Me at the Hunger Games premiere in November.
When is it?
Oh.
It must be, the movie comes out November like 19th or 20th.
Yeah.
And me and McKenna Gray is just like, just having a key.
And so what someone from Lionsgate has already contacted you for this.
So you're probably, that's what happened with us with the wicked.
They contact me for the wicked screening and like, and just keep this date open.
And I was like, oh, my biggest day.
November, I guess, whoa, that is a big time for me because it's your book and My Hunger Games.
Wedding.
Wedding.
Keep your November open.
I really needed like mentally prepare for that.
yeah yeah because that's going to be everything yeah but yeah I felt very joy
grisophatee that is exciting yeah yeah you're gonna go I'm going to a premiere this month oh
work I'm coming up I'm very excited about it I know I really feel like I didn't I guess I
manifested but I also just emailed since I was involved and I was surprised you know what
God what is that saying the you can't miss if you ask you miss 100%
Of the shots, you don't...
You don't...
Something like that, right?
Yes.
Yes, I think that's what it is.
Yeah, if you...
Basically, like, if you don't ask, you're not going to get it.
Yeah.
I just asked, and they're like, okay, sure.
And I was like, wow, damn, I need to start asking for more things.
I am never an asker.
I will never ask for anything.
Me either.
I'm too scared.
Push to ask.
And then it's just like, well, all right, sure.
Kind of like when I didn't want to ask for R plus ones for Demi Lovato's party, it was like, you're like,
well, Dary him wants to know he come.
And then I was like, okay, well, Moses has been wanting to know too.
I didn't want to ask because I feel like they would say it.
So, but then we asked and they both got to come.
And then it was, I should probably just ask.
I have such a small window where I'm brave enough to ask.
Like, it has to be, I have to be maybe freshly caffeinated, freshly Adderald.
And then I'm like, you know what?
What the hell who cares?
Let me email everybody.
And then that moment comes and goes very quickly where, like, I'm too afraid to even check the response, you know.
Right.
You're like, it's just going to be out there.
Mine's when I'm really busy.
When I have 5,000 things to do and I have one minute.
send an email.
So I'm just going to send this email or whatever.
Yeah.
So I have to be very busy and asking for a bunch of things and doing a bunch of things that day.
So if like one thing doesn't come through, it doesn't matter.
It's like whatever.
Just to ask, you know what I mean?
But that's so interesting.
Shout to her like yourself for being in Hot Topics today.
I know he really is the theme of today.
It's being relevant.
Yeah.
Because of us.
Yeah.
And the puppies and his Minecraft.
Yeah.
Cookies.
That's over now.
Yeah.
I forgot to bring this up last week and I was like kicking myself over it because this was one of my
favorite hot topics.
But the cereal butt snobics.
But the cereal butt snobes.
getting arrested again.
I was like, how did I forget to bring this up last week?
What is that?
You know, you know about it.
Yeah.
You don't know about the.
Oh my God.
Where, when, is it real?
Yeah.
So the serial but sniffer, he was arrested again in California after he was caught
sniffing people inside a store.
And he was already on parole from doing it before.
He was arrested in Glendale from butt sniffing at Big Sav discount store on August 29.
And what is that?
I mean he was down on his knees sniffing or what?
Yeah.
It's basically like sexual.
Oh, yeah.
I was going to say.
This sounds almost like just being a criminal.
Well, yes, he was arrested.
Yeah.
Oh, he said like a goofy.
Like, oh, my God, the butt sniffer is back.
It's just a crazy headline.
And also to have a mugshot and then be known as like the serial butt sniffer of all things.
You can probably hear us right now.
Hear us?
You haven't seen his mugshot.
Oh, my God.
What?
be fun of his big ears or what?
I haven't seen it.
I mean, I just, now I see the inspiration for Shrek.
Oh my God.
Geez.
Okay, shame we're over there.
I'm not.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Well, is he locked up?
Yeah, he did get arrested.
And he got, he was doing, he's been doing this since 2021.
Like, that was when the earliest reports happened.
He finally got caught in 2023 when someone filmed in and posted it to TikTok.
he was pretending to tie his shoelaces
and he was sniffing the women
who were walking by and then one woman caught on to
him and secretly recorded him
and then was able to...
How? If he was at the butt? It was like a wide shot and it's
almost like you vlogging in like a store or something.
She's like holding it up high. I think she left it like in the aisle
or something. Oh, oh. And he's like just following her around?
Yeah and like bending down and like getting close to her butt.
So like she walks up to go
put the camera down and he's just like sniffing behind.
Pretending to tie his shoelace.
And he just keeps going down, up and down, up and down.
Yeah, and like walking suspiciously close.
Like it's, it was very creepy.
No, I think they should be put in jail if you walk too close to anybody.
Like you should be like, you know what I mean?
Like if you're an engineer me, like no one needs to be that close in a public space ever.
I always do.
I always stop.
Do you walk with me when I do that when I, like, I literally, if someone's walking behind me, I just stop.
Maybe it was Ward.
I forgot.
I was somewhere and I'm like, do not walk that close to me.
Just go around.
Like, I hate when people walk so close behind me.
Yeah, you always love people walk around.
Yeah, I don't like anybody behind me.
I mean, he has, I mean, I'm surprised he didn't find, like, you know,
partner that is into the same thing where they like for him to sniff.
Well, he's obviously a weird out.
He has, like, issues.
If he's doing it to people in public, you can find someone who loves butt sniffy too.
I'm saying he's been doing it for how long?
You're like, but that's his geek, I'm sure.
I'm sure he just wants to be dubious and perverted in public.
Because, yeah, of course you can find someone who will let you sniff their butt all day long,
but it's like he wants to be a menace.
I should go to a dog park or something.
It's normalized there
Sniffing butts?
Become a furry
Well
Maybe he's
No, you don't want to put the dogs in risk either
The dogs didn't ask for it
Like who's this human sniffing our butts
No, that's how they handshake
Like that's for dogs
That's like a handshake
They smell each other
Yeah, but not a human doing it
I don't think they mind it
You don't know that
You don't want dogs to feel
Some type of way either
Even then to be comfortable
Allegedly
They don't mind it
all right well i mean i'm glad he got uh reprimanded yeah he he is in custody until his hearing for his arrest
so at least glendale is safe for now glendale is kind of dubious that way careful out there in glendale
yeah if you smell something say something period
if you smell something say something stupid uh that was a great one i was waiting on that all
That's not like the most is one where I'm like, I'm like to
surprised.
I heard about it.
Thank God.
I was like,
well,
Flotcast reminded me because they were talking about it.
And I was like,
oh,
I forgot to bring that up last week.
And it was at the top of my notes.
And somehow I missed it last week.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well.
Yeah.
You know, I'm studying flopcast.
Granted,
their take on it,
instead of responding to cancel,
it's just wanting to flopcast.
Yeah.
But their take on it was like dogs do it all the time.
Why not let him sniff?
Oh, we wanted to say.
You see.
Yeah.
They always have the hot takes on there.
They do.
They have the hot takes.
Stop that.
Yeah.
So I'm scared to go on it, actually.
I was like, yeah, I could do it.
And I was like, I don't know.
I'm so scared.
They also, mind you, they influenced me to get goodles.
Like, I think I told you, I was like, oh, try gudles.
Which is ass.
That is ass.
You get gudles.
It's like, perfect.
I'm going to try.
I'm on my protein mac and cheese.
The craft protein macon cheese is so good.
I love protein everything.
And I had the gudles.
I was like, this is awful.
They really influenced me to get gudels,
which is basically like a protein.
heavy macaroni and cheese.
It's basically very similar to crass,
but it's supposed to be like the trendier
and like more protein or whatever.
And then I saw another influencer add
cheese flavored protein to their gudles.
So I tried that.
I didn't love it, but I was like,
I guess this is what the girls are eating.
So I was like putting up with it
because I was influenced.
Yes.
And I saw you looking for protein mac and cheese
and I was like, try Goodles
because this is what the girls are eating.
What do I see like two days ago?
Galgadotes, Goodles companies sold.
And I was like, and then I texted them.
I was like, did you guys know this was owned by Galgado?
And they were like, we just found out.
And I was like, so the flops sent me to me a very dangerous path.
And she just sold it, right?
She just sold it, yeah.
So I was putting money into Galgado's Calel, no.
And I bought it in bulk at Costco, the Goudals.
So I'm like, damn.
You all just made Gallaudo really rich by hating on her all this time and eating her guddles.
Damn.
I was like, and mind you, everyone tells me who owns the best.
that company saying don't shop here, don't shop here.
No one ever reason we're like the Goodles.
Maybe no one knew.
Maybe no one knew.
Because I have seen Goodles on social media, so I think people didn't know.
She was very low-key about it, at least.
A lot of people, when they invest in a company or whatever, they become the face of it.
Oh, yeah.
She's like, the opposite.
Let me keep it quiet.
Yeah, and it worked.
It worked.
That's actually, yeah, it's kind of smart, actually.
Then she doesn't worry about anything now.
She's a Goodles billionaire.
I know, because she just did another movie with an Amazon Prime Video.
Horrible.
runner is what it's called and yeah
I think it's that a 6%
on Rotten Tomatoes and it is crazy
Chris actually gets work no shade
Yeah that's what I'm saying
It's like you're like a horrible actress
But yeah you're acting
But I guess that's delusion
Confidence
Someone someone
Someone connected to you
That's another thing where
That TikToker you mentioned
That was like
Oh yes
But maybe like adults who are failing
For sure
And like making a lot of money doing so
You know
That's true that's true
Then you can tell them not you
Yeah
Because I think if you already made so much money, like, and also, like, you think you're good.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think it's because it's Galgadoo and she just has a terrible, like...
Everything.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think she has just terrible stances.
Not to go, like, too deep into it.
But there's just, like, this weird film she made and you're just like, I think you're just a weird bad person.
And I think that's why.
Otherwise, if you're a bad actress, like, it can be camp.
It can be funny.
Anyone else would be like, yes, queen.
But I think it's just like...
Isha, if you were in a movie where you kind of...
That's what I'm saying.
If Runner was storing you, because basically the plot of it is the whole movie is her running.
Like she can't stop running or her son dies.
Oh my God.
Yes.
Like someone took her son hostage and is calling her and is like, if you stop running, I'm not going to give him his insulin and he's going to die diabetic shock.
Yes.
So the whole movie is Gal Gadot just running.
Like genuinely.
That's me.
I can start running.
And you in that movie, it would be maybe the best thing Hollywood is ever.
Reshoots.
Reshits.
They'd do it.
I would love.
Oh my God.
I'd be great.
I'd just start my running training again, but I'll be down.
You when you do the marathon?
Like that would be, that's fierce.
Such a good idea.
What a weird plot.
But also weird, weird acting.
She's just, I don't know.
Very odd.
Yeah.
Rachel's like Ler always getting the last laugh, though, I will say.
That part.
Always, always.
Yeah.
I think again, it's like anyone else can be bad or whatever.
I think when you're just also like a weird person on top of that.
Yeah.
Just like, okay, actually not you.
Yeah, yeah.
You're average.
And the gudels aren't even good.
Like, I hate to say it.
That part!
I was like,
these are not good.
And then when I found out she was behind it.
It was a sciop.
Yeah.
I'm like,
damn,
I really was influenced.
So it's true,
it's too damn easy to market.
Blame the Flapcast girls.
I know.
That's the title.
Flopcastle-canneling the popcast girls.
Yes.
No,
they're great.
We love them.
I do love that.
It's funny.
They have the craziest takes.
And like, I'll agree with.
Crazy.
Sometimes I agree with them.
Sometimes I'm like,
this is nuts.
And I just like,
I love them for it.
They never offend me.
They make me giggle even when I don't agree with them.
Only when, I guess I was in the popcast.
I was just Paige and Tanna being like YouTubers who make music need to be stopped.
I'm like, oh.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a little fun.
That's true.
That's a little fun.
That's true.
That's so funny.
No, I love it.
Honestly, there's some people who can just say whatever and I'd just like, whatever.
That's cute.
You like, even if I don't agree.
Because if you do it in a way that makes me laugh, then I'm like, that's kind of funny.
It is crazy.
Paige's influencer persona is so different.
than when I first met her.
Not that she's a different person,
but how I perceived her versus how she has an influencer.
She was just so quiet, demure.
When she was here as Tanna's assistant,
like the most like locked in.
Locked in.
Constantly emails, taking notes, like multitasking,
approving copy, approving videos and then taking notes and then like flagging things.
I'm like, damn.
And now to this here just be so careful.
Lucy Gusey just like,
hot takes.
They open the episode.
I'm free bleeding on this,
on this Wayfair sofa today.
I'm like work.
Oh my God. Love it.
Love to see it.
I just always remember her as being like
already changed the reservation's eight
because I knew Tanna was going to be late.
I got you a little sewing kit so you could have up the thing.
Like she was just so on it.
And then I was just like, damn.
But I do love to see.
I love to see it.
So good.
Damn, to be both of those personalities.
It's a good way to be.
Love you page.
See so cute.
What mom?
Because as soon we're going to be doing,
like when I go on tour and stuff,
we've got to like pre-films.
I'm so.
I'm so excited for that.
It's going to be fun.
soon.
Yeah.
It'll be cute.
We just got both
on that same chair.
I feel so sad when people
come on.
I'm like, I'm so sorry,
but me and Oscar,
not to be whatever,
but we fit on the chair.
Yeah, I don't want to be that person
to be like.
I think that we can celebrate that.
Yeah.
Sponsored by Roe.
Like, come on.
Pretty good.
That will be the real test as soon.
It's just seeing how much more
we fit on this chair together.
No, we do great.
We're doing wonderful.
The chairs are meant literally for one person.
So when two people do squeeze on it,
it is quite impressive.
And we just don't have room,
truly, for anything else.
but come on.
They're big.
They're big chairs.
Okay.
Other influencer controversy, though, did you see the influencers at the U.S.
open?
No.
What do you see?
I don't know.
Matthew Morris.
I saw Alex versus Alex.
That was my whole FYP.
Oh, yes.
Me too.
Did you?
Okay.
I didn't know that was on it.
I'm like, that's all I've been seeing.
Yeah, I've been saving that one.
Okay.
But I thought this was interesting because there was influences at the U.S.
open and it was during Naomi Osaka's victory against,
in a tennis match at the U.S. Open.
And there was all these videos that went viral
because there was just these influencers being
a menace at the U.S. Open, which...
Wait, like, who? I haven't seen any of this.
That's kind of the gag is like...
So people were mad at influencers
and they were mad that they got credentialed
to be at the U.S. Open.
And then it was a whole thing, almost like a Coachella,
you know, like these influences getting like the VIP treatment.
Granted, it ended up coming out via ESPN
after they investigated and reached out for statements
that these people just bought tickets
and they were making content during the tennis match.
So there was someone who had a ringlight in the crowd and was filming TikTok.
Who?
And then I don't even know the name.
Like, they're no one big.
Just influencers used loosely as like they were creating content.
Oh, just people making content.
Just people who bought tickets and then they were being obnoxious.
There's other ones doing like, oh, these guys were doing OTTs.
Again, the tennis match is like happening behind them.
So it's like just so like disrespectful.
Yeah.
And then people were mad that they were credentialed.
But yeah, it came out that they bought tickets.
it.
But just like
influencers being
the worst.
Also, I feel like we got
I was gonna say
they're making content.
Yeah.
They're on TikTok.
Granted anyone can be on TikTok.
Exactly.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like if they're not anyone
that you can name
or we know.
Like they're not really,
I thought it was like.
Charlie DeMileo or something.
Yeah.
Tar's world.
You know?
Do you know what I mean?
That is not Tar's in all that too.
No shade.
Right.
Like that.
Okay.
Then it's like, yeah.
Like a name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just people making content.
They.
Okay.
I mean, people were like really mad.
And that's the end of the thing, though, was they got labeled as influencers.
So then, yeah.
And people are already sick as hell of influencers.
Right.
So it just added to the, like, people being burnt out on influencers.
Sure.
It is annoying, but.
Yeah.
I mean, people are always, I mean, I see people, I mean, I'm sure they're not even famous,
but I always see people like live streaming on their phone or like filming or like
filming or doing something on their phone, just like the entire meal.
So it's like, you got watch what you're saying behind them because you're like on their, like, stream or something.
I was on, I was at Costco.
and there was two, I'm assuming straight guys,
and they were like filming,
they had like a whole rig.
They had the light,
it was like the iPhone in the middle
and then the ring light around it.
Like one of those kind of like high end.
Oh, okay.
And they were recording buying different proteins, I guess, at Costco.
And I was so confused at first.
I was like, what is going on?
And then I realized it was one of those like trainers doing it like,
this is what you should buy at Costco.
Like one of those.
It's like Malibu Fitness.
Yeah.
And I was just like.
like in the background like this is so
you were in the background I was just trying I was
mine in my midst trying to get the freaking chicken
meatballs and I'm like I did think that was funny I was like what if someone's like
that's Oscar from district
were they streaming I think they were recording
a lot of Costco influencers a lot of
yeah there's a lot of TikToks you can be a Costco influence you're there all the time
here's what's new at Costco this week for my kids that's a good one you're always
there you always buy stuff yeah but that's there's people full time
that's all they do is tell you about the deals at
Costco is the different points of things you can get.
I hate Costco, but you love it.
You're always, I can't go.
I can't go to Costco's overwhelming.
But yeah, you should have been in background.
I think it's kind of fine.
Sometimes I like to do that too.
Like, I won't be too annoying.
But it's like, if you see someone didn't film it, well, maybe they'll love a cameo.
Like, hey.
You were somber at the I heart awards.
Yeah, I didn't even know it was somber.
But I was like, you know, there's camera.
So you just want to put your best foot forward.
You don't want to be that like in the background.
Like, you know what I mean?
You just want to be.
Hey, you should have done that little wink.
I did.
Well, I had my shoulders back at least.
I was like, let me make sure my posture is good just in case someone clocks me.
I hope they post that.
I hope that, too.
I don't even know who it is.
I just, I could tell it was like a trainer type.
And then, like, in the meat section.
So I'm assuming, like, this is what you should buy or this is what to not buy.
Like, if you're trying to gain or whatever.
It was very that.
It was very that.
Good protein versus bad protein.
Uh-huh.
Was someone filming him or they were like?
So he had a camera guy, yeah.
That is wild.
That's another thing, too.
Yeah, wait for the clippers.
They're going to clip you.
I hope so. I don't even know.
Just, I don't even know just a white guy.
Like a white guy with tattoos could be just about anybody.
But watch him be like super famous.
Right. And then you're back there.
Like actually that's Oscar.
That happens all the time.
Like there'll be people like crossing and like, oh, actually that's that person.
That happened one time to us.
There was like an influencer recording at like a swim lesson.
And he had maybe a million followers.
And everybody was like that's Moses and Malibu in the background.
And it was like a little one.
He was like, no.
Oh yeah.
And you're like, no, that's clearly them.
So we just stopped going to that.
because I'm like, oh, that's weird, whatever.
So it's, yeah, it's kind of weird.
I guess it was a kid's class too.
And also we didn't want people to know where she's like swimming.
And I don't know.
It was like a little weird.
But yeah, I think it happens quite often.
It's like there would be like one influencer and then another influencer.
Oh, that's actually that person.
You don't know.
Yeah.
I was like a famous influencer.
Not famous, but he was like, I had followers.
So.
Respect.
Just don't film my kid.
I was like, you were like swimming back there with her.
I mean, it's kind of funny.
I didn't even because I saw them because he was there with like an
entourage of like 10 people at a kid's swim class but I never imagined they'll post
videos of other people swimming in the swim class you told me when you came
home yeah yeah because immediately I was like this is odd it's strange like 10 adults
at a kid's swim class you're like yeah and then and he was you know the main
character so you obviously notice who's the main character and people are filming but yeah
you're like it's so weird it's like this people were like the one thing I didn't expect
was them actually posting yeah that should be a lot to bring like other like so many adults I
I think it never really happens.
Like in the years that we went there, it never, never happened.
It happened once.
And I'm sure if somebody would say something.
Yeah, but we don't want to be those people.
So I'll just leave.
You're in the water.
You're not going to get up.
Yeah, but we never went back.
It was that's what I'm saying.
And we're kind of like, well, I guess that's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, we don't want to say it nowadays.
You don't want to say anything to anyone.
Then they call you out.
Then you have a beef on TikTok.
Exactly.
Then it's like, yeah.
Who's right.
Who's wrong?
That's always how it goes.
Leave.
Just leave that situation.
You're just like, all right, well.
Yeah.
So we stay in the house.
And I talk about it on here and then they end up responding.
That happened with Ken Eurek's ex-boyfriend.
He was like, oh, I just saw Trisha Padas call me ugly.
Recently?
I saw it yesterday because someone tagged me in it.
And I was like, it annoying.
Did you?
You said, oh, my God.
He was like, Trisha Paitis called me ugly.
Like, he was so shocked.
And I was like, well, also annoying.
Like.
Yeah.
Well, it's also just like your personality.
It's not even your looks.
buddy it's just more like your personality sucks that's why you're ugly people get the ugly term like
the men from uh Mormon wives it's only because like you suck yeah and like you're being content
your ex your ex's apartment shit this is weird stop making content about me and you keep doing it
so you're harassing her at this point so that's why therefore you were ugly yeah and then i
thought physically wasn't that ugly but now I do especially because um I love the reaction like
especially like a straight guy who is clearly thinks like he's like really hot shit
and then being called ugly, which hasn't happened to him before, you know?
And I love in the comments, too, when everyone, like, leaves different images of his hair.
Like, they Photoshop his hair to be, like, humongous and they make fun of him.
I love it.
Just someone who was, like, so used to, like, peak the high school energy.
Like, it's used to just being hot shit, being clocked.
It's so funny to me.
It makes me giggle.
No, I do like those, too.
I do love a picture comment.
I don't like the picture comments because you can't, like, you can't, like, control them.
But at the same time, they are kind of funny.
I saw that with, like, a Logan Paul, too,
with his hairline.
People really love to come from men's hairlines,
which honestly, if you're dubious,
I don't know how Logan Paul's dubious anymore,
but if you're dubious, I guess that's
one thing to come for.
He was a little, I mean, at the Super Bowl,
wasn't he, like, problematic about Bad Bunny?
He was a little racist tease, him and Jake.
Jake more so.
Oh, that's right, yeah.
Well, that's a good transition to Bad Bunny.
Earl Me's World.
I said that to you that one.
I mean, you probably already saw,
but I was just like, my job was on the,
for for many reasons.
We're like, at first you sent me the article from Variety that's like, Earl meets World is
like watching paint dry.
I was like, that's a crazy bold statement from variety, but also agreed.
Like I would see clips with that.
Of course, like my whole timeline because like there is no beef happening right now.
This is something we're cleaning on to.
Is it boring?
Yes.
Is it the only thing right now?
Yes.
So it's so funny.
I was thinking the same thing.
I was like, it's really good that it came out right now, this divine intervention because
it is like pretty slow pop culture wise.
So the fact that this came out when there's like nothing else really cool.
is great for Alex Earl.
Sure, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, so the reviews from publications about Earl Meets World on Netflix have been horrific.
Just that it's like very boring.
Nothing Burger Tea is.
And I was ready to go in as a hater, to be honest.
And then upon further investigation, I was like, okay, maybe there's something here that I can relate to Alex Earl about.
Because I guess there's two-fold.
So the first thing is Alex Earl's stepmom just being horrible.
And also her dad as well.
I was going to say the rage made from everybody but Alex actually.
Like I literally hate everybody.
And also like obviously the children, like the small girls and stuff like that.
Like it's not whatever.
The adults.
The adults.
The adults.
I was like pissed more.
Had the rage bait.
I actually was like so pissed.
I was like I actually hate everybody here.
But, um, but then yeah, it made me like like Alex.
Like Alex girls not for me necessarily.
But was she like super mature and like sweet and like damn everyone in her life really gaslighting her and manipulating her and being like,
she has to be the adult.
these situations like well damn she's really holding it together because that can not be me yeah because
obviously at the super bowl this year bad bunny was a performer there was a whole moment in the casita
where different latino high profile like celebrities actors are all spotlighted and in the casita
was alexandra earl for some reason unbeknownst to us girl should have said no i i would have said no
I would have said no, and I say yes, everything.
It's like, no, like, you can't.
Like, you don't know what I mean?
Like, even the, the K-pop Grammy, like, if they offer to nominate me, I'd have to be like,
no, I can't.
You know what I mean?
You have to just say no.
Like, what?
That's not for you.
Anyways, okay.
Yes.
And obviously, that got a lot of backlash because she is just as Aryan as possibly could be,
just blonde, big boobs, blue eyes.
It's just so, so white.
And she got a lot of backlash.
and her stepmom went to TikTok to repost.
Did you know about that at the time?
No.
No, I didn't know about this at all.
Her stepmom went in response to all this backlash, went and posted.
My niece is actually, what it was?
My niece is actually like Latina or something?
Half Guatemalan.
My niece is actually half.
It's not the right time to say my niece is actually half Guatemalan.
And I was like, no.
No.
What?
And Alex Earl was like so upset by it, obviously.
because at least she understood the backlash
and she understood why people were upset
and then having her stepmom like chime in
I think it had to be some kind of rage bait troll
whatever. As it was like dying down,
it was like kind of like dying down
because obviously we know it goes through whatever
people are like get mad and they're over it
but it's like as it was dying down
she's like why like why would you post this?
And knowing it's gonna
because and she knew and actually did know the stepmom
she's just like she goes well I don't get it
like we can't like you know chime in with this
Like she knew it was going to like ruffle feathers.
And she's like, but then she tried to act like stupid like like, oh, like that wasn't what I meant it to be.
It was just the weirdest thing.
Yeah.
Your niece being half Guatemalan has nothing to do with you or Alex Earl who are not half Guatemalan.
Exactly.
And Alex Earl tried to talk to her stepmom about it and asked to delete it.
And her dad ended up coming to defend the stepmom, his wife.
And basically said that like she needs to stop like yelling.
at her
being disrespectful
He's like you're no longer
This triggered me so much
As we know I have some stepparent discourse at my own
But it's just like
Especially a stepmom right
A stepmom that is thrust on you by the way
That literally was just
Yeah through an affair
A public affair
Paparazzi now your mom's out of the house
Because now they're pregnant
So now you have to like it
Your dad is telling you like you have to be nice
to this woman whatever
She's like okay trying her best to go so you know
her whole life she's been told this like don't be disrespectful
But now she's like 25
Not being disrespectful at all
was actually so calm, but, and it's like, I would just like, like, like, if you private it,
because it's like, whatever, she's being so respectful, and for him to be like, you're not 15
anymore, and you can't be disrespectful in doing this stuff like that.
It's just like, you guys are the, like, I was so, and I felt, that's when I felt, like,
so sad for her, because you know it's been like that her whole life.
She's been, she handles it well.
Honestly, I would, the reason I've been crazy is because of being gaslit by step-parents
stuff early on for that same reason.
But she handles it, like, so well.
And it's just like, she was totally respectful.
It's the step-mom.
Why aren't you telling her?
Like, what the fuck is your problem?
Like she knows.
I think my theory is like she might have maybe like a little animosity or a little jealousy of like Alex.
Because she was trying to be like an Alex girl like back in the day.
She was like kind of channeling her fame into somewhat of an influencer back then.
So it's like maybe a little jealousy, maybe a little self-sabbit habit because the other clip that pissed me off as someone who had like issues with step parents is when Ashley tells Alex like it's really your mom.
Like it's the reason we can't have like a good relationship like your mom stepping in.
And the mom is like so nice.
Like Alex's like biological mom is like so nice.
Like she's like on vacation.
She's like whatever.
She's dealing with all this bullshit.
And actually started to be like, we have the relationship we have because of your mom.
And I was like, that mom's being so nice.
That mom is literally like going on vacations with you guys.
She's like very accepting.
I wouldn't.
That would never be me.
Oh my God.
If there was like, if you broke up my marriage and then actually like, well, all men, she,
I'd be like, I can't even see you.
I couldn't even look at that person.
I would be very much like how my parents are.
I'm like, I'm never talking to you.
Don't even look at me 30 years later.
Whatever happened to me or my parents, some shit went down because they do not talk to
to each other.
they can't look at each other 30 years later.
So the fact that Alex Girl's mom is being so nice and cordial
and you're still talking shit about her,
I was just like, damn, really made me not.
She doesn't not come across cute.
Maybe it's the edit, as they say, but.
But then, like you said, in turn, I was like, damn, I really,
I like Alex Girl.
She's really handling all this.
She's really going through it with all her adults in her life just being awful.
Yeah.
And that's why she said she seeks validation.
That was the other thing.
Oh, my God, that's the other thing.
Which made me relate to Alex Cheryl.
She's just like, I think I like, or she seeks like validation from men.
because her dad, who, like, in theory has been there,
but it's, like, didn't feel that way
because he's always taking her side,
taking the stepmom's side and making Alex apologize.
So she's like, I'm always trying to find validation
through, like, guys and stuff like that.
And what's to start with?
It starts with the dads.
And you can have all the money in the world
and manager, all this stuff like that.
You were still a shitty dad growing up
because, look, she's, like, seeking validation,
like, as she says,
herself, like, from all these, like, men
and stuff like that.
And it just made me, it made me sad.
The other thing that made me sad was the Alex Cooper tie.
So we were very much, like,
the teas are like
I'm going to just talk about Alex Cooper
it's like no one cares anymore all this stuff like that
but then
what really got me wasn't even the
contractual stuff and we were promised
a set and help and all this stuff like that
it was that interview she did
on Call her Daddy
so Alex Earl was on Caller Daddy
that's the one where they're like on the balcony
outside and it's like
that interview
was actually insane right
that was actually insane and then it made me feel bad for all
Alex Earl. I was like, well, damn, like, which is so crazy that Alex Cooper was baiting Alex
Earl knowing that that interview existed before all the business stuff before, like, her
trying to like sabotage her podcasts or whatever they said. Because like, whatever, to me,
that was kind of like a nothing burger being like, oh, they didn't give us, which I mean it does
suck. They didn't give us like production and stuff like that, sure. But I think this was more
the thing. Like Alex Cooper kind of like setting her up and makes out, how many guys did you,
how blacked out did you get? I was like, that's a crazy interview. That's crazy. If someone
ask me those questions like now like right i'm or ben actually like even if i would in my vulnerable
state i would still be questioning people and being like why are you asking me this even though i'm
like a crazy unhinged person why would you ask me this but like it's such a weird weird thing and i
made me believe maybe she was set up yeah and she also said that um she felt encouraged to drink
before filming that caller daddy interview as well um which obviously released your inhibitions a little bit
So she claims that Alex Cooper coaxed her into drinking to get her to spill more.
And then obviously the questions were very sexual in nature.
I think they got away with it for a long time because of the nature of Caller Daddy being like a very sexual, especially like back then and it's origin, you know, being very sexual in nature.
But wasn't that Alex Earle stuff after I did Caller Daddy?
Wasn't it like in 2003 or something or 24?
Yeah, because it was around the time she joined Unwell.
So I think that was like, I feel like that was even after.
I, we should look it up, I guess.
But I mean, when I did the Call Her Daddy, like it wasn't that anymore.
It wasn't like a sexual show anymore.
It was like professional and like all this stuff like that.
So it wasn't that long ago.
Yeah, September 20th, 20203.
Okay.
So yeah, that's like kind of recent.
I feel like they did when she started selling her for all the podcast for all that money is kind of when they kind of did the flip.
Because I feel like I've never seen it out of school.
or ask questions like that to anyone.
Yeah, I think she does get pretty sexual, I think, still with some celebrities,
but definitely not to that degree.
Yeah.
Or specific as well.
And also, according to Alex Earle, she asks for things to be edited out, but then they weren't.
Like, she wanted some of it removed or left out of the interview, some of the sexual questions,
and then they still went and published them.
So that was, like, one of the big gripes as well, which, again, definitely makes sense.
why should feel some type of way?
I think Cooper felt very much willing to like put throw it out there and put it all on to Earl
to respond because like I think everyone knew that it was going to be something again like a
nothing burger very unseasoned like I we are used to in this day and age post-dramagetting something
more like explosive you know like some kind of like smoking gun that really would make her
look terrible but really this is just like two people like one's very like one's they're uber competitive
occupying a similar niche of being hot blonde girl with a podcast and it was like a territorial thing
you know yeah that makes sense I guess yeah so it's nothing like explosive that would definitely
divide the internet like it's something that like especially if you have that like influence exhaustion
you're like Alex Earl like you're beautiful you're rich like you don't really have real problems
and something that could yeah there'd be a light this
course on, but nothing that would really ruin Alex Cooper, you know?
I just feel, again, throwing it back to myself, when you have something in your past
as like a little dubious or like coursing, right, you're like coursing someone, whatever.
It's like, why push that person?
It's like, you know you kind of like, okay, all my past beefs too.
Like, yeah, I know I've done some thing.
So I would never just be like, what's your issue with me?
Like I did nothing wrong when someone could be like, well, you did this, this and this
too.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like it was a weird thing to kind of bait her way.
with when she knows, unless she didn't think about this interview as being bad, but to me,
I was like, jaw on the floor where I was just like, that's kind of crazy.
Like, I don't know.
I guess she was trying to play into Alex Earle's like party girl persona, but it was kind of
wild just how many people did you, your freshman year?
Like is crazy.
Like in 2023, I was like, what?
This is what we're paying all this money?
Like, it was so weird.
Yeah, very time and place.
And you did that at my birthday dinner.
Yes.
And she was what?
Like 22, Alex, or Alex Earl?
It's like, she's like this young girl who was like.
in college.
And again, I'm not signing with Alex Earl.
Like, I mean, I'm not even like a super stand or anything like that.
But damn, she's gone through some shit.
Same.
It didn't make me, like, completely side with her.
But it made me understand the resentment for sure.
Which I think at least if the show did anything, it made me not dislike Alex Earl.
You know what I mean?
Like, I could have gone either way.
Like, we could have had this show and it could have made her look worse.
But all things considered, it made her family look pretty terrible.
Or the adults in her family were terrible.
Her look very level-headed for how she handles it.
For going through all that stuff and having all those issues.
I'm like she's definitely handling it well.
And yeah, like the Alex Super Alexer thing, like she was 22.
So Alex, Alex Cooper was, I don't know, the age difference, older, I suppose.
So yeah, I have to feel some type of way because you're just like, I'm like a, you are so young at that age.
It's like being a little vulnerable and someone taking advantage of that.
And Earl said that Cooper, me just haven't used the last names.
Earl said that Cooper took advantage of her admiration from her.
She said, I was obsessed with Alex Cooper.
I was like, this is my idol.
I'm so happy to work with her.
And then the interview happened.
And then when they were trying to do the podcast, basically the Hot Mess with Alex Earle podcast,
she really didn't have any resources.
They kind of just gave her equipment to film it.
And that was that.
And then I think it was spill set.
She put the comparison of like Harry Jousie also started his podcast under Unwile at the same time.
And he got a set and full like production.
So the difference between like that.
amount of resources put into like Earl versus Harry Jowsey's podcast.
Wow.
Very, very evident.
So this goes into the running theory that everyone has had for years since this beef
has happened that Alex Cooper might have signed Alex Earl as a way to like tame the competition
almost.
Like you can kind of control the trajectory of her career if she's signed to unwell.
Like, because you're in charge of like what resource she's getting, et cetera.
That's like the big conspiracy theory.
that's running behind it because it doesn't make sense like if you are signing on to this big network
and yeah it is a startup but if at the same time someone else is getting a whole ass set and you're
getting a white wall on a bed like yeah i wrote a ham quarter yes i know i thought this is just what
she's like on a bed with like a mic literally a portable microphone i was just like what the hell's
happening this is so that was so great yeah because if you would have gone to maybe like a dear media
and they give you like well dear media doesn't give set either they give you a white microphone and a white
backdrop. That's what you get at Dear Media, but no,
no shade to do your media. But, you know, like if you go to
Spotify, for instance, when I said, did the
Forbidden Fruit to Julia Foxx, it's like they built them a whole set,
you know, and all stuff like that. So it's like, you could have gone
somewhere and probably
got that, which, yeah, I guess makes
sense, but also Harry Jousie.
Yes.
Why are you in the middle of everything?
Why are you always making the wrong decisions? Like,
everything you do, you're always in the wrong place,
wrong time. Like, this is not about
you, he inserts himself.
He's like, I love Alex Cooper.
I love Alex.
Sherlock.
Like, let me mediate this.
First of all, you should be not around for a while on social media.
Because, like, you wrecked all these girls' hearts.
You're just, you don't see clearly.
Like, you need to just, you need to take a little break.
You need to take a little break.
But to insert himself into this, I was like, oh, my God.
And everyone said that too.
They're like, what the fuck is your problem?
Like, what are you doing?
Just let the girls handle it.
Let the girls handle it.
He thinks he can be some mediator.
It's like, definitely not you.
Very straight man to, to,
think that he can come in and be like, ladies, ladies.
Like, no, shut up.
Like, what?
I hate people like that too.
Ladies, ladies.
It's all good.
No.
I think you do that in general, too.
I remember I had people who didn't even know the situation if I had beef with other
people.
Let me mediate.
It's like, what the fuck do you know about this?
Like, it makes me so mad because it's like you don't know the depth.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You are just trying to insert yourself to try and like deflect off your like show that
failed and you like awfulness, narcissism to all these girls.
It's like it made me so mad.
I was just like, you don't get it.
Oh, because he said his guys was.
was like just let Alex Cooper have her baby.
She's about to have a baby any second now.
Granted, okay, what Alex Earle did in the, how she talked about the drama in the show was
a little bit annoying where it was like, you know, I never asked for any of this.
Like she just made a TikTok during Coachella.
Now I have to deal with it.
No, that's bullshit.
That's bullshit because you were reposting and you were like, like, at least own that.
Like, I have the clocker on that.
I'm kind of on her side in this, but I'm like, you have to own up to you were, you were stoking the
flame.
You can't say I'm a victim.
I'm scared when you're also like in there too.
Like it's not, it doesn't work that.
way. Yeah, that is annoying. If you're going to be shady, it's, yeah, you can't be surprised that
she, you know, bites back. Um, but the whole Harry Jousey's defense is that Alex Cooper's about
to have a baby. Why are we, you know, getting her angry. Okay, this. Alex, wasn't she, it was
Coachella, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what Cocoa Moco said. She's like, she's like,
we got to get her on your time. She's so funny. She's showing the know of everything. And I love
the name. Um, but yeah, she had said that too. And it's like, yeah, she obviously was
like baiting and and because it is like it is annoying like when I was in my doing my
ASMR pregnancy just met immediate like meditation just like no drama and it's like
annoying when people like drag you into it but truly I was like mouth shut while I was
pregnant because I was like well yeah you you want to have peace and you don't want to be
drama filled or anything like that but but if you yeah if you yeah if you involve yourself
yeah yeah so you have to be yeah it doesn't you can't anyways that was another stupid just like
straight man defense to be like we can't like it's like granted me I do feel bad to obviously
like the stress of all this
probably is annoying, but you did bait it and I don't know, it just...
Uh-huh.
Obviously, she's going to respond.
They mean, yeah.
Cooper literally asked Earl to respond.
You know what I mean?
Right.
While she was pregnant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The timing sucks and stuff like that too.
And also it's like, uh, it's not full-blown harassment either.
It's like Earl saying her piece on her side of the story.
You can't really blame her for that.
Yeah.
What I will blame, though, is her dad being like, that bitch, Alex Cooper.
No.
That's a grown-ass straight man calling another way.
women in the industry, a bitch?
Yeah, check yourself.
Because how you, like, raise your daughter in this whole affair and how you all think it's
normal and you're trying to defend this, like, woman, like, for the rest of her life,
actually should be trying to, like, fit in and, like, welcoming and be as, like,
peace class possible with the family, like, really trying to be there.
It's, like, she's doing the opposite.
And the dad's encouraging it.
And it, like, it's just this whole triggering thing on its own.
And your own daughter is saying she's seeking male validation because she doesn't feel
like she has it from you.
And she's always trying to get his approval.
So when he said that, like, obviously she felt rejected.
You could see visibly just, like, her.
shutting down and being like what like it was it was actually like so sad and then yeah like to
call another girl a bitch because again you're a grown man it's just like it's all embarrassing
and I like the mom I like Todd the little sibling when though she should get on TikTok I'm like
she 13 like let her literally be with her friends in what world are we encouraging 13 year olds
who don't want to be on social media to be on social media I'd be like stay away as long as
possible it was so weird the whole thing was odd yeah like that's why
at least it worked in Alex Earle's favor
that her parents are like horrific
because in comparison she looked like a saint.
It's like damn, how did she end up so normal
when she had a dad and a stepmom so heinous?
Like that is an achievement.
That's something to celebrate.
That's what it is.
And you're so calm and collected.
And this whole show, by the way,
it's Earl meets world and there's all these family,
all these people.
And like obviously the dad like negotiated this
and everyone's a part of it,
which is giving, like I've always said,
it's giving Demilio down.
It's giving Addison Ray's family,
just trying to,
trying to do like raising canes deals together and so like that's giving it's giving weird and then the whole thing centers around the brachson breakup and i'm like if they never broke up would this show have any plot because the whole thing is her being so sad about the breakup and then the dad going to have lunch with brachson or something and you're just like and at the end of the final clip is just literally like her calling brackson is there any chance of us getting back together and brachshunds and then cut it's like would there be a show without that breakup like and also like spoiler alert she's out and marilago with tom brady like
So,
I think,
the other one,
Chuck Norris,
whatever,
you know,
there's all these people
and you're just like,
what the hell?
We know what's going on.
And the dad is obviously,
they're all kind of
becoming clout chasers off this one thing.
Like,
they're all running the coattails,
I should say,
of this breakup of this thing.
And he's,
like,
involved with Braxton.
And sometimes,
I'm just like,
what the hell is happening?
Uh,
I got,
I really hope I never turn into this kind of parent.
That's like literally just like,
with my kid on TV,
like all their,
like,
like,
in a way,
exploiting.
I don't know. That's kind of like a weird term to use.
But very weird. I know.
And then you see Charlie when I was watching her and she was talking about like,
Quinn's like, how much did you make out this Dunkin' Donuts?
Like, what did I like to know?
Like she's just like, it's very eerie.
It's very ominous.
It's like, oh, I never was letting to hype us.
And she's like, I'll never let out.
It's just like, oh my God.
Like all the stuff that came to fruition.
And like, obviously her mom too.
It's just like, damn, these kids really get a, and they're not, you know, young adults, really.
I mean, Alex Earl's a young adult, but you trust your parents and we see how awful
they are.
I got to drop that man as your manager
Also like the thing that's bringing her brand down
Like the thing that makes Alex Earle not marketable to everyone
Is that like her family is so like maga conservative
So granted I've seen comments of Alex Earl like saying she's not that
And I think that's why she was so mad obviously like at her stepmom
Because like people are gonna think be a
Because we're related I have your beliefs
Yeah yeah
She didn't say it out front but like obviously implied so like that
those two, stepmom and your dad
are bringing your brand down because that's
what makes me hesitant to fully be like, I love Alex Earl
because I need to see what we believe in first.
Yes, yeah.
No, for sure.
You got to dump on my fear.
Yeah, Earl Means World Season 2 needs to be
Alex Earl and Ashley Earl together and that's it.
No one else we want to see.
Todd and your mom can stay.
Everyone else.
Awful.
Although Todd did take back a purse.
He was taking back up.
Did you see that little clip?
with him.
He, like, bought her a purse, and then she got cancer, and he took the purse back or something.
I'm not really sure the whole thing, but I was kind of like, but he pops up on my TikTok now,
and I'm like, well, he's pretty handsome, but everyone else is awful and weird and makes me sad.
But, yeah, is it, like, watching paint drive?
Well, we were entertained for the weekend, so I suppose it gave some, uh, something.
Something.
Yeah, it is, I think just our parents are so horrific that, like, yeah, it is almost like a car crash.
And you're like, at least against all odds, you've ended up okay.
Because you could be really deplorable.
So kudos.
Mama kudos.
She was holding it together.
Even the little dancing with the Stars interaction when the one, they had the female pro come in to ask her about Tom Brady.
And I'm like, even the, I don't know, the male pro's name, whatever guy's name.
He was just very much like, okay, because it was getting so weird and personal show.
So did you or are you?
Like, I was like, what is happening?
What is the show that your dad is producing?
It's like very...
Oh, did he say he saw her nudes too?
Like, I think he said in the context
like he had to get the nudes down
so he had to like see their nudes.
And I'm just like, why is this airing?
Like, why is any of this conversation airing?
Like you said, it's just like one hit
after the other where we're just like,
I don't know who's doing this edit.
He has control over the edit.
So I'm like, why are we airing all this?
Especially with the step mile.
I don't know.
It was very weird.
Maybe they, you know, some people think
you are looking in a better light than you are.
It kind of gives that one TikTok guy
that you brought up,
everything keeps going back to him.
the rage-fader guy.
I don't even know his name.
It's all kind of, I feel like maybe they do.
They think they're as like older men are like eating.
They're like, yeah, this is, this is it.
I think just old men need to just, you may have knowledge, but maybe pass it on to your kids,
pass it on someone in private.
We don't need to say anything on social media for the most part.
The only thing that can sink her, if she survived Cooper, the only thing that can really take
her down is her dad and step on being terrible.
Come.
The dads, right.
It's like the Addison Ray Dad, the Charlie DeMillion.
Yeah.
And now this, the dadators.
Got daddy issues.
That's that throwback.
That's a song.
Well, we all have them, don't we?
Not me, but yeah.
Yeah, you really do.
You need an Earl Meets role.
Would yours be called the Gracie Manor?
Okay, what?
I think there's a graceful.
Graceful.
working for
Oh yeah, fall from Gracie
But that sounds bad
Like a, what's a grace pun?
I'm supposed you don't have any
Like off the top of your head
Because what's, um, great
Plainbury Grace's.
Oh.
Disgracyful?
Oh yeah.
Very bad.
Hers is disgraceful.
You and her should do one together
called Grace and Gracie.
That's actually a good one.
Sounds like Morgan Morgan or something.
I like that.
What is she?
She's, though.
Is she on well?
Is she on unwell?
I think she's still.
I saw a clip from her podcast on TikTok like last week.
So I think she's still on and well.
Hopefully she got a little production.
She did get a set.
You remember she had that like 70s like talk show?
Damn.
Everyone did get a set except for Alex Cooper.
Alex Earle.
Damn it.
God, why do they look and sound so similar?
It is crazy.
Like little clones.
Okay.
Well, that's it for today's hot topics.
You all for quiet over there about Alex Cooper.
Alex Earl.
Of course.
Okay.
Mind you, me, I want to say about Michaela.
Alex Cooper, Alex, girl this course does not interest you, which I guess is good, honestly.
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