Just Trish - Jan 22, 2026

Episode Date: January 22, 2026

💖🪩THANK YOU TO RO FOR SPONSORING!💖 Go to https://ro.co/TRISH to see if your insurance covers GLP-1s—for free. 💖🪩FOR EXTENDED EPISODES AND BONUS CONTENT💖🪩   / justtrish   ...💖🪩SUPPORT MUTUAL AID & GENERAL FUNDS FOR MIGRANT COMMUNITIES!💖🪩 https://linktr.ee/desolasol_colectiva 💖🪩SUPPORT TRANSLIFELINE!💖🪩 https://translifeline.org/ 💖🪩NEW JUST TRISH MERCH!💖🪩 https://justtrish.com Sponsor Just Trish: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/just-trish-podcast Follow ‪@oscargracey‬   / oscargracey     / @oscargracey   Edited by: ‪@jimmywhetzel‬ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 You know what? I really should sleep on everything. Even the email, I sent an email last night and I woke up this morning, I had to be like, hello, good morning after sleeping on it. And I was like, and I was like a professional email and I had like a serious topic. And I was like, I should just always wait. So it was the halter top. I will give it to house world. It is a cute halter top and I could see it for New Year's.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I could. Maybe if you're a bridesmaid in 2016. What? I got you finally. It's the only head that fits with headphones. Oh my god, that's what it was. I was like, wow, your head looks bigger today. I love a big head.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I have a huge one. Wow. Yeah, it can be cozy with my headphones while we feel. I'm usually freezing like that. Are you? No. The girls would lose their minds if they saw you right now. You have to go up with that.
Starting point is 00:01:10 They love that because they love their golden, the roomy braid crochet. Anyways, we'll get to the hi. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. It is Thursday. Woo, woo. Everybody's working for the weekend. If you can't tell, I have had not one but two meals already, and it's only 10 a.m. So I am, I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm energetic. I did have a Baja Blas, not sponsored. I was like, I mean, you can see the Baja Blas. I'm like, but it's an aesthetic. If you know, you know, I don't know. They're pretty good. It gives me way too much energy for now, which I need, because today is a long day. It's going to be a marathon today.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I'm going until about 10 p.m. tonight. You try being an influencer for a day. So we're starting a little early while Oscar joins us a little later. So the first half hour of this might be just me and Moses talking about how cute our kids are. Moses has some hot topic. He told me about Michaela. I was like, wow, he's like, it's breaking news actually. And I was like, okay, well, I'll just wait for the podcast. Um, you guys, I will be at the Netflix is a joke comedy festival. I will be, uh, in conversation with Netflix stars, uh, Tuesday, May 5th at the Wiltern at 945 PM.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Tickets are on presale. Right now, they go on sale, sale to the public on Friday, January 23rd, at Hanamber. Right now, you can get that pre-sale. come see me talk with a really exciting Netflix star I'm really excited to be a part of this it's a crazy crazy thing I'm so excited check it out also vote for me at I Heart Radio Awards I am nominated for your favorite Broadway debut against some stiff competition but hey it's fan voted if I know one thing that Tricia Padas has taught me as anything as possible so we're gonna we're gonna keep going and get that award it was granted to Rachel's leglow last year and I'm up against like iconic people with like amazing voices but you just never know I would be very
Starting point is 00:02:53 Katie Heron and just like share my trophy with everybody because everyone in my category deserves it. And finally go to patreon.com slash just Trish. We do bonus episodes every week. Me and Moses are doing vision boards this week. They're really fun. I challenge myself to do an all pink vision board for Valentine's Day. So check it out if you want to see what's on both of ours and our headshot of the month is me as a mime. Which yesterday I did something very mime related and like have you ever worn this kind of makeup? I was like I wore it last week actually. So just happened to be a coincidence. And the sticker is that I'm no longer talking sticker,
Starting point is 00:03:29 which is Oscar's favorite little thumbnail of mine. So if you guys want to get those, they're monthly. They're going strong. My sister is sending them out. I'm signing them. It's a great time. And justchurch.com while we're at it, justchurch.com, we have cups.
Starting point is 00:03:44 We are getting more stuff in, so we are making room. So stuff is, some stuff is on sale. You'll see it when you go to the actual product. It's not showing it on like the homepage. When you go to the actual product, obviously stuff that is reduced pricing. So go to justrish.com. I feel like I guess that's everything.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Moses is at Moses Hackman on TikTok. Honestly, I love that you're like a repost of a clip farm. Is that they call him clip farm? Oh, yeah. You know, I'm a farmer. You're farming on there. You did a, you reposted an edit. Shout out Jimmy Wetzel.
Starting point is 00:04:15 We just have to shout him out. Honestly, just icon king of editing. Like literally everybody, the comments are flooded. I go to check the comments. Like, what are they saying? They think we're so funny. They're like, Jimmy. Jimmy's the funniest.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And you are. Jimmy, we love you. He's so great. Moses just uploaded. You know it's a good editor. What do you re-upload? Like an edit and it's so good. I don't really watch these back.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So I miss that. It's quite often. But when I see them upon TikTok, they make me giggle. Jimmy's a real one. He'll be joining us soon. We have a very special project in February coming, which I'm really excited about to raise money for some good causes. So we'll be there.
Starting point is 00:04:46 We'll be there soon. And Jimmy's joining us there too. We love him. We love Jimmy. We love everyone. The show is just Trish, but also Oscar and Moses and Callie and mom and everybody, which we love, we love everybody and we love you guys. Thanks for being here.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I'm super excited for Netflix as a joke. Did you see that line up? Oh my gosh. It's everybody. Like, is there somebody that's not on it? It's basically every person that's ever watched Netflix is on it. Yes. Shout out Hot Topic, Jake Shane, getting his podcast picked up by Netflix.
Starting point is 00:05:18 His third season will be on Netflix exclusively. Like, wow. Amazing. Honestly, amazing. Like, it is amazing. Like, he has a show on Hulu about his life coming. But then he also has his podcast on Netflix. Like, he's literally just the monopoly. He's the boardwalk and the park place. He's just taking it all. And we love to see it honestly. I like Jake. He's actually like one of the, like, nicest people, like truly nice that I had ever met. He is everywhere. Talk about networking. We see him at the Ben Platt show. We see him at Wicked. Like, we see him everywhere. Amongst other things. He's with Alex Earl and all his famous friends. And he has another, oh, Sophia Ritchie.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Anyways, congrats. We love you. Jake Shane, we love Netflix and we love them all. Is there one we don't like? No, no. We love entertainment. We are consumers of entertainment. We work in the entertainment business.
Starting point is 00:06:04 We do work. We do work here. It's our home. I love this. Oh my gosh. I love this. Are you excited for the Netflix? By the way, the Netflix is in conversation with.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So it's not, I'm not performing like my music. That's what people were asking. It's an interview style, which I want to get more of that. I do want to do more interviews. Like I really do, I get excited to do it. Obviously, I could be a little more polished, a little more like researched and stuff, like not research, but like polished. But you have to do stuff to get practice at it.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So I'm happy. You're basically a talk show host on Netflix for this night. Well, for this night, right? It's live. It's not going on Netflix, but I do feel, I do think we get to record it for our podcast, I believe. But come see it live because it'll be lots of fun. And the wilderness is pretty intimate, right? It's like 1,500.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, not too big. Yeah. It's in older theaters. It's very beautiful. different. It's good enough for Hillary Duff. It's good enough for me. Oh, that's one of my songs.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Did you see that? Yeah. I was like, wait, this is familiar. I know this. And I was like, but that's not my wife. Nope. No, it was not. Yes, I was going to report to the video, but then I saw that, you know, somebody
Starting point is 00:07:13 tagged me and was like, oh, this is Hillary Duff. I'm like, I heard about her. Icon, coming back doing shows at the, in the UK. Because she's from the famous mom group, right? The toxic mom group, I suppose, which I guess could also be the famous one, yes. Is that how you know her? Yeah. How do you know Liz McGuire?
Starting point is 00:07:30 How do you know Hillary Duff? Who you? We watched movies when we first met. Did you know her before? Not really. But did you know the name? Names are definitely not names, but. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah, names are not. But that's, I would think the opposite. I feel like Hillary Duff is like a name you might hear, but you may not know who she is or what she does. Not in my world. There was no mention of her. Like, craziest opposites attract. I was saying this with Moses too.
Starting point is 00:07:58 It's like before because we, you know, me and Moses have so much fun. We laugh. We're giggling all the time with each other. But I feel like I've talked about this before. Like on the podcast, like his jokes and stuff like that always like catching me up guard. So I think everyone always goes like, oh my God, Tricia doesn't think he's fine. I think you're like the funniest person ever. But I will say we are like opposites, but I think this is why we work so well.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I've never met someone more opposite in like life, life, life. Do you know what I mean? Like parts of life that we come from, parts of the world, not parts of the world. I mean, look at our 2016 trend. Yes. Oh, that's a perfect example. Yeah, because we were, we looked at it and glam. Moses rarely posts on Instagram, but he posted the 2016 trend.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And I was like, it's like a different person. But like, I love that part of you. And you still are that person. It's just like, right. Look at our 2016. It's like just coming from different. Obviously, we're meshing well together now and we have the same like morals and beliefs and all that stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:08:46 But it is always gaggy to me when you're like, oh, I didn't know who Hillary Duff was. I was like, to me, she's like the biggest star in the whole world. Like I, to me, she's like our generation's Madonna. Like I think like everyone knows her. So when you're like, I didn't know her. I was like, what? So you knew her through me. We started watching.
Starting point is 00:09:02 We watched Raise Your Voice and Lizzie McGuire. Yeah, Lizzie McGuire probably was the most because you were buying a lot of stuff, Lizzie McGuire, you know, cups and things and bad. Yeah. Will you like Google when I'm like buying all that stuff? Are you like, what is this? Are you just like? No, we saw the movie and then all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:20 The stuff is my education. As you get those things I get to learn about. I should. I should say so many. There's so many moments that I like, it's not palan who say yeah. But so many moments when I'm like falling in love with Moses and one of them is like when we moved into this house and we got the house together, you putting away my bling cups and like putting them on display.
Starting point is 00:09:40 It was just like the cutest thing ever because you were like organizing them and you were putting them up and you were displaying them. It was like the first thing in our house that was like finished was like our blinkup cabinet. And it just was like, oh wow, like taking interest in like not only things I like and collect but like displaying it. It made me feel really, I don't know. And then I look at you now and like I love the bar we share this. The girls would just love it.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You have to go up in this hat. Anyways, how are you? Good. But, you know, people are just stealing all my nachos. Stealing it. Eating my nachos? Oh, gosh. Our TikTok today was not a, it's not sarcasm, you guys, me laughing when there's a hot topic.
Starting point is 00:10:14 No, this was literally me this morning showing her this hot topic. And then I opened TikTok and I see everyone who's making fun of me. Wait, who was making fun of you? No, I'm joking. And someone did say Moses so chronically online, he probably showed her this trend and that's very accurate. It was like, I showed you the trend, but then I backed off. I was like, I'm not sure I want to do this. But it's funny.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And then I thought about it. I was like, okay. Yeah, you showed me the trend. It was the one where it's like you're like laughing at your husband jokes. It's like, you know, Valentine's Day is coming up or you want a purse or whatever it is. mine's obviously Moses has been cooking me up a storm like way too much
Starting point is 00:10:46 like I'm gonna like lock in very very soon because I have been literally eating pasta every night because I have the best husband who'll be like you want pasta like I'm gonna be and it's been delicious but I do need to like lock in
Starting point is 00:10:54 but aside from that it was mine was like but you know he's cooking tonight so you're like ha ha ha ha but then I came up and I was like you want to do that TikTok and you're like no it's mean I was like no people and people loved it because they get it
Starting point is 00:11:07 because your hot topics are very off the wall you're very you know But this one I feel like it's very on point. It's like, all right. So we all know Michaela. Do you guys know Michaela? Another person I would not know without you. I love the setup.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We do as Oscar for the setup. Both me and you are not. But this is great. You're good. You're great. You've been screenshoted. Okay. This made packages I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:11:36 My new launch comes in a literal fish tin. And guess what? These aren't just for influences. I'm going to be giving 10 of them to you. You better send me one. It's for my new line called Snatchett, and it is literally salmon-derived PDRN. Oh. Oh, it makes sense to put it in a fish tin.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Ocean-born. That's funny. Okay, that makes a little more sense. Snatchit's a crazy name them. Okay, so it's salmon. I guess people put salmon, like, sperm on themselves. So it's like salmon derived is what she's saying. I mean, the row, the orange.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I mean, that's the raw. It's like a caviar. It's like the eggs of the fish. Okay. Is it like sperm or is it like just eggs? It's the eggs. Oh, and people put that on their skin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It is a cute idea. I don't know, but it's not like the last thing I would think about is cosmetics in tin fish. I guess like I get the idea of salmon, but. I think she wanted to make it happen. So she's like, there's some salmon, something in here. Right. I think she really wanted to jump on the trend of the thin fish. fish. But then she shows it's like, it's so beautiful. I can't believe. I want to put it up on
Starting point is 00:12:46 the wall. I'm like, I don't know. It doesn't look. You would put it up on the wall. You put it right behind you. My headshot will be replaced by Michaela's snatch it. I don't know. Maybe I'll put mity in it. Should I DM her and see if she'll send us one? Yeah. First of all, she should as it is because she said she's only sending it to beauty influencers. She says she's not only sending it to beauty influencers. Right. So she should send me one too. Oh, okay. You want to? Well, we can probably share one. I want one. I want one. too we could share it so anyway it's yeah again once again you know people are like tinfish what no yes and suddenly it is kind of becoming trendy i don't know if it like was before you i mean obviously i know
Starting point is 00:13:24 it through you it's very it's my hilary duff where i'm like i wasn't familiar with the game but yeah i don't think credit at all i think tinfish reviews marcus and lucy they're like the godfathers of tinfish and they they want to get me interested in it is that the ones that are in england you think they started it yeah by the way they announced they're pregnant. Oh, congrats. That's exciting. Yeah, baby girl, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Oh, my gosh. That's so exciting. But tinfish has lots and lots of nutrition value, like huge, especially for all the people that need protein and all those things and all the omegas and like thin fish is where it is. Sardines, that's where it is. So I highly recommend. I really want to do a video with you trying tinfish. like all of them, but I wonder if I could like actually stomach it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Like, do you think it might make me like physically sick? Some of them I think you could like spicy fish, you know. Look, you had spicy shrimp last night with a pasta, right? All of them are cooked. Oh, how are they lasting for a year in tin? It's because they're cooked and they're eaten oil. So that's what preserves them. I'm really surprised you like that because I feel,
Starting point is 00:14:42 in general, you love things that are like fresh from the ground, organic farmers market stuff. I'm surprised you like things that have been sitting in a din. I think that's why I'm so picky because I only like the ones that are actually good because so many of them I don't like. But when it comes to sardines and octopus and things like that, it's hard to find them fresh every time, all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But yeah. And nutrition, again, as far as nutrition, like one can of fish can give you such great. nutrition boost, which will be hard for me to find in a different way. Right, right, right. Well, I'm down to try it for the boost of protein. Yeah. I can pick one that you like. I just had one that was actually shrimp scampy.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Ooh, was it good? It was like scampy. It was good. What is scampy? I know what it is. I know what it is, got it from Chiquet factory, but what is it? I think it's just the sauce, the spicy sauce. But how do you make a scampy?
Starting point is 00:15:40 I don't know, top of my head, but I'm just getting. guessing, just like yesterday, it was kind of like paprika, chili peppers. Oh, that was so good. It was good. Oh, my God. That was like too good. That's what I knew. I was like, it's out of control.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Even tomorrow's supposed to be bowling and night. I'm thinking, like, you might need to just do like a steak and eggs or something like that because it's like a pasta's been out of control. But like, it's wonderful. It's wonderful. But, oh, man, that was so good. Well, it was just this week we tried different recipes, which was interesting. Because my whole FYP is pasta and protein.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And I'm just like, okay, yeah, I need to. It looks really good, but it's been great. So yeah, 1715 fish has made it to the beauty community. Yeah, Michaela. Honestly, if Michaela's doing it, you know, you know what's the trend. You know it's the hot thing right now. I like it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:21 It is a weird thing when you think of with beauty, but I'm there for it. And then basically the person that is leading the way and for all of us that wants to be Chinese. So her name is Sherry. And I forgot to mention last time the name. I love this. I love your hot topic. So started off. This is great.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So she... It really is the same as like Oscar telling me stuff. Because it's like sometimes a foreign language. Like he'll like name these hot Hollywood stars. Like what? And now you're like leading the child. But I love. By the way,
Starting point is 00:16:48 I love this. I hope that came across last time. Like I do love your tea this morning. You had some. You were like making it for real. Like I think the Chinese lifestyle, I think everyone should adopt. I think all the Chinese people look great. I think it's like.
Starting point is 00:17:00 My thought was a bit scratchy yesterday. And I was like, you know what? With the apples, I threw in some ginger, some cinnamon. A little bit of honey at the end. And my gorgy berries. and you feel better. Yeah, feel better. It tasted good too.
Starting point is 00:17:14 That's right. That's what it was so amazing that I think we always think about ginger is like so strong and powerful and not just not fun to drink. But the apples just make it sweet and you forget about the ginger bean. Wait, I kind of want to try now. I kind of want to try it because that is Chinese medicine you always do here is like the way to go. What does that call? Like is that the Eastern medicine? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Because like Western medicine is what like pills and stuff, right? Which is like totally fine, of course. But Chinese medicine is more like. nature, herbal, natural. Obviously, everything is good. I'm down for anything. I think all cultures, like every culture has certain things in their culture that has to do with lifestyle and health. That is amazing, but we don't know about it.
Starting point is 00:17:54 We're so stuck in our lane. And what's been beautiful about this trend is that everyone talks about how, this is how you do it, as far as when you approach another culture, not appropriation, but like learning and being excited about it and doing it respectfully. doing it in a so there's this beautiful dialogue between it's specifically here it's chinese but people from china that are like welcome we've been waiting for you we're so happy you're here on this trend we're so happy to see on your sleepers and drinking the hot water in the morning well we've been watching was it was it was it Chinese remember those trends we used to watch where they would like clean they'd go home and they'd put stuff in like the sterilizers is that a Chinese tradition
Starting point is 00:18:34 yeah that was definitely Chinese oh my gosh like I was so and I see people here at aptitude there's this one woman. Oh, I don't know her name. She's like a mom. And she does the same thing. She sterilizes her sunglasses and she like puts things together. And like it's yeah, I really, you've been to Asia or no? The Philippines. I would love to go to Philippines. I would love to go, obviously Japan and like Korea would be great. China would be great. I would love to go there. Not just for the Disney's too, although I heard their Disney's are amazing. But I would like I would like to go. Singapore. My dad said Singapore was like the cleanest, safest country he's ever been to. Like I just would love. I don't feel like I'm worldly enough. to like experience all cultures.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Like I feel like I've been to Europe. Okay, I get that, love it. They have great food. Well, not England, but England has other great things. But in general, great breads, great pastas, all that stuff like that. I never really been to the Asian countries. I've never been to Middle Eastern countries, although I would love to. I would love to visit.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I guess we went to Dubai. And today I did my own takes. After I drink all of that, I took the apples, the berries, the ginger and all that. And I made it into a smoothie. How is that? Is it good? Oh, I love this for you. And it's almost like the warm ice cream.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Like it's a warm smoothie. Ooh. Like it's not cold, you know. Anyway, so we have a message from Sherry. She messaged you? Chinese baddies Trisha Paitis is now one of us. She is drinking our boiled apples. Earlier upstairs, like, don't look.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I was like, no, don't look at it. What is it? My new Chinese baddie lifestyle. Yes. What do you mean you don't boil apples every morning? And we've all seen her, Sherry. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Chinese baddies is your grandmother is going to be so excited when she sees this. Like I kid you not like she has been boiling apples for me my entire life. Trisha, you're a Chinese baddie. Yes. Your Chinese baddie, Trisha, okay? Now you are in your Chinese era. Drink that boiled apple. Add those goji berries.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Tea, tea, tea, tea. Also, I just want to say every time I see like a newly Chinese baddie, They'll in my comments saying like, oh my god, I just became Chinese. Like I just had my apple. I just had my conji. I'm wearing my house slippers. Like, I am so excited, guys. Our community is so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh my God, I'm going to cry. Oh, my God, just watch me next week. Just be like, because it's the Chinese New Year coming, right? So we're going to have to go full out year of the horse. Wait, that makes me, yeah, that makes me so excited because I, like, yes, as someone in the past who's been accused of like culture appropriating. That has never. I can honestly say, I can tell you when I've been a troll. I can tell you what I've been on drugs.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Like, when it comes to, like, when it comes to, like, when I've been on drugs. like exploring other cultures. It's truly because like I feel like I've never like belonged anywhere. So when I meet someone with culture or when I see like a culture I like love, obviously I know now to like research to make sure like nothing I'm doing is like offensive and that I'm able to do it as you know not a part of that culture. But like I love that. Like to when you get like the go ahead from that to like we love this and like keep doing it. Like now I want to just explore so much because again I grew up like so small town and just like not worldly. And it's like there's so much out there. Like you said to tell you.
Starting point is 00:21:38 like learn from so many people and so many things. And I think that's cool. Oh, I'm so excited. Yeah, I honestly, because it was good. We did like it. And it's crazy because you were a little sick yesterday. And then I didn't even think about that because I was like, oh, you were totally fine this morning.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Wow. We're Chinese baddies. I love that too. I love that name. You know me. I'm going to deep dive now. What else can I do to be a part of this movement? Because I love it.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I feel we've already been, because someone's asked you if you were tapped into like the Chinese ODiX and we've been. Right. Right, because most people say that's your next step. And we're like, no, we've been already in that step. For us, Chinese zodiac is the one that we love the most. I mean, wait till you see, okay, our centerpiece of our house is truly like this tiger that I spent way too much money on.
Starting point is 00:22:20 But it's this giant tiger and it's blink out. Everyone loves it. And people like love it and they don't really know. But it was Malibu. It's Malibu. So our first was when we were, when she was born, she was a year of the tiger and there was tigers everywhere. There was tigers and everything.
Starting point is 00:22:31 We've always kind of been into our zodiacs. Our Chinese zodiacs, I'm a dragon. He's a steak. We've always been into it. And really early. on we're like, let's have two kids, both in our year, but like, it's kind of hard to do both in the same year, but like, because basically it's every 12 years. So you either have to have a kid at like 24, 36 or 48, because it's like every 12, or 12, I guess, like 12, 24,
Starting point is 00:22:52 like, you know what I mean? So it's kind of rare because 24 is pretty young to have a kid, 36, not old, but like older. And then obviously like 48. So it was like rare to have it. But then our second Elvis ended up being dragon like me and then Aquaman was snake, which is like so crazy. But we love all the zodiacs. I love that it's to be here the horse. Because he always said, like, that would be amazing. We'll have our ears. And I was like, there's no way. How can we make that happen? Because also it has to be back to back so fast. Yeah. Yeah. Because our ears were back to back. Yeah. And I was like, I love the idea. And I thought it's, I can't see how it'll be possible.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Thank you so much to Roe for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Seeking health care isn't always just about physical health. It also impacts how people show up to work in relationships and with themselves. Roe makes it simple to get started on a journey with their free insurance checker or cash pay options to help people who qualify for medication, regain confidence, and start feeling like themselves again sooner. You've heard it everywhere. GLP ones and you may be like, how do I get this? It's so confusing. My insurance. Who do I call? Roe takes out all the guesswork, okay, because you don't want insurance, the stresses of it, to get in the way of your physical health. GLP ones can be life changing, but they're often
Starting point is 00:23:58 perceived as too expensive and out of reach. That's why Roe offers more affordable ways to start a GLP1. Whether they check your insurance coverage for free or show you FDA approved cash pay alternatives, they'll ensure you pay the lowest price before we even start. You always hear, I don't know if I can afford it. Well, you may be able to, so check out Roe's free insurance checker today. Not having insurance coverage isn't the end of the road when seeking GLP1 treatment. Some people make it discourage if they're denied coverage or lack insurance altogether. Roe knows this is the reality for many patients and it has affordable solutions. Covered or not, Roe offers for FDA approved GLP ones without the $1 price tag. So don't feel stuck in your weight
Starting point is 00:24:29 efforts. Check out Roe's free insurance checker today. Roe wants to help people lose weight. That's why they have the lowest cost options out there, whether you're paying with insurance or cash. Roe's insurance checker lets you know if your coverage for GLP ones for free. If you want to see if you're covered, just to make your insurance card and Roe will take care of the rest. No paperwork, no hassle and no waiting on hold. We love to see that. Rose free insurance checker will send you a comprehensive report of your coverage so you can make a decision that's right for you and your goals. Even if you don't have insurance coverage, Roe offers cash pay options for more affordable FDA approved GLP ones. These cash pay options
Starting point is 00:24:58 ship right to your door and no pharmacy visits required, which is wonderful. You don't have to worry about anyone being nosy and all in your business. move forward. Roe can help you understand if GLP1s are right for you and your goals, but that's just the beginning. When you become a Roe member, you'll have support throughout the process. You'll have access to your provider on demand for any questions. Join the over 1 million people who trust in Roe to Roe. People check. Be a part of that, okay? So go to row.com slash Trish for your free insurance for your insurance covers GLP1 for free. Go to row.com slash safety for box warning and full safety information about GLP1 medications. Thank you, Roe for sponsoring to this episode
Starting point is 00:25:35 of Jesterish. Yeah. And it happened. It did happen. It was crazy. Yeah. It was wild. But anyways, Malba was like, you're the tiger.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But the tiger was very expensive. But we love it. And it's literally a centerpiece of her house. It like is forever for us. So we just like it's, I should actually get asked blinged up to show progress because she's almost done with it. We just got a custom. This is like, am I using this term right?
Starting point is 00:25:57 PST resistance. What's resistance? Is that like like the, it's like the center piece. The piece of resistance. Like the piece of resistance. This is like the main event. The peace de resistance. I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It sounds like something in the center of existence. Okay, okay. I think, I hope I'm saying it right. I thought it was something of resistance. I guess. Peace de resistance. I don't know if, PS de resistance. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I don't know if I'm saying right. But the main thing. So we, this has been two years in the making, getting this custom. I've always had this idea for this like custom Chinese dragon. because like they do have big dragon stuff, but it's kind of like the mythical dragons. I wanted like a Chinese dragon in the red and gold. Red is like a lucky color, especially in the new year. They always have like red and gold.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I did it for our like New Year, like American New Year, but love it. And so I've been wanting it, but I wanted like our opening has like a mirror because we're kind of running out of space for giant animals. So we have like a pole for a snake and then we had like this opening for like a big giant dragon mirror. So we got it custom made. And then we had to shout out drip down. Then we had to give it to blink up to blink it up.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And it's been like literally two years in the making and it's almost done. All that to say is we really take our Chinese zodiacs very serious. More so than even like a Torres rising. Like none of that stuff. I love but don't love. You know what I mean? Chinese zodiacs, I'm like hardcore. Like I always send you stuff like, oh, if you're a year of this, if you're a year of this.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So our years just passed. We just have the like, well, the snake is right now and the horse is coming in February. But and then mine was dragon. So we had to wait another 12 years. But all signs carry on into obviously year of the horse. It means different things for different signs. But for all of us, the horse is going to be a good year. As I said, the snake shed.
Starting point is 00:27:38 The shedding is still happening until the new year, and then the horse is going to push you forward. It's going to, you know. And I think if you believe in it, it's kind of like whether you consider it real or placebo or whatever, I do think there's, like, luck to be had. And the Chinese is very lucky. Remember on my tour, everyone would give me those red envelopes
Starting point is 00:27:55 and put money into it? I'm all about it. So I love it. I love it. Yeah. We do all of it. We do too. Because, like I said, when I was in my spirit,
Starting point is 00:28:03 I was getting into all of it and we have the little Buddhas and we present them apples and coffee in the morning. And I get very into all of it and I just love that so much. I can't wait to find out more about Chinese body culture. And I love the name. It makes it so cool. Yeah. Next thing we need to try is the kanji and their breakfast. Conji?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah. What's that? It's kind of like it almost looks like oatmeal. It's rice. But then you put on it whatever toppings you want. You can put your eggs and your scallions. sesame, like all kind of... So it's really about...
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's kind of like the idea of oatmeal, but the problem that we consume too much sugar... Okay. It's more savory. So it's not sugar and raisins and syrup and whipped cream, you know? It's more savory. So it's like eggs and vegetables and... Do a morning routine day in the life of a Chinese batty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And then we can make our tea. I'm like really into this. You guys know, like once I get into it, like I get really into it and I'm very excited now. Very cool. Well, thank you so much, Sherry, for the seal of a... approval and the welcoming and we're very excited about it. Thank you, Moses, for introducing me to this. I love when you get excited about stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Very rarely can I get excited with you about things? Because we are very different. Things I get excited about, you don't get excited about. Because my routine every morning, you know, I make my tea. And the way I learned how to make my tea was in Ireland. So it's like Irish tea with sugar and milk. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, trying to move away from sugar, this is like great.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Are you? Yeah. What are you going to do at night when you get like a Coke and a chocolate? I mean, I can still have a chocolate, but it's more, I think, how you start the day. Right. It's so important. Like, what's the first thing you put in your stomach. Because that's what they say.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Your stomach is basically sleeping. And then do you wake it up? You need to wake it up with like warm water and not like ice cold coffee on cold water. Like, it shuts down your stomach. What about a double stuff grilled cheese burrito? That's definitely an American body. American body or American batty Oh my
Starting point is 00:30:07 No I actually felt a little crazy I do love it But what's crazy about Taco's because like Today we had to start on time Because I have to go somewhere right after So like today So I was like what's open And I saw Taco Ball was like open on the food delivery apps
Starting point is 00:30:18 You could get a grill cheese burrito And it's been my whole timeline Last week it was all flying Dunjeman My whole timeline has now been these grilled cheese burritos But they get them really big And so I watch a tutorial on how they get them big And you just order like triple of everything Like triple Fiesta strip triple rice
Starting point is 00:30:28 They put potatoes in there Like, you can add everything in there to make them humongous. So I was, like, really excited about it. And it was good. You can see on my TikTok. I could only, like, half of it. But 9.30, Girl cheese burrito is kind of crazy. It is a little crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I think it's better to start the morning maybe with some hot apple tea. It is tasty. Okay, we're going to do that. We'll make that part of our routine because we do love our walks in the morning and stuff. Yeah. Physically, I'm locked in. I'm walking. I'm doing Pilates.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It has been crazy eating, but that's okay. That's, you know, it's fine. A lot of people in the comments have said, like, if I read the comments of people that do it and they were like, I've lost three to five pounds in the first week of doing this. I could imagine. I can imagine not starting your morning off with sugar or a grilled cheese burrito probably is the way to go.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Like, yeah, tea with sugar and grilled cheese burrito. Also just getting your system working right. Yeah. Because it improves your gut bacteria. There's something in the apple when you boil it that helps it. Ooh, I am, watch me just glow. Watch me look like I'm 20 years old in a month. I'm super excited.
Starting point is 00:31:24 You really look like you're 20, but yeah. It doesn't look like I'm 20. I think I look good, but I don't think I look. like I'm 20, but thank you. You look like you're 12. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Look at your pants. Are those Giamater Nation? Yeah, inherited from Joey Bresepha. Oh my God. I was just wearing those literally yesterday.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Are you on the aviator? Oh, oh. Show and child today. Oh, wait, I love. Wow. Were you reading on the way over? I love those. That's so cute. They were joys? Yes. Okay. Skinny. Jeez. I could never. Could you imagine if I'm like, I borrowed these from Tanna? Like, no, can never. Well, it is elastic. So there's a lot of it. cheat in there. No, but still. You look great.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Thanks. Barring the halter top from Tanna. Which, and it's not really a hot topic, but it's like, or is it? You don't have it as a hot topic. I did. I see some of my big talks about it. Oh, I wasn't going to like make it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Well, we can talk about it. Can or not, but it's so funny. Okay. What were you saying? Oh, the Weatherman Heights. Um, okay. Hey, everybody. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Um, my mom's scar. You look great. That's crazy. Are you have to, do you want to get situated? I'm sorry. No, I'm situated. Okay. Um, anyways, hello.
Starting point is 00:32:28 So I have an idea for us. Okay, I'm really, obviously, we're into Wuthering Heights right now. Also, they're a hot topic. But before we get into the hot topic, as I was holding this book, I was like, ooh, it would be funny to have, like, photos, like, reading it. Kind of like you with As Your Addison cosplay for Halloween at one year. But I love.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I think that we can do a spin on that. Jacob Allorty is always paparazzi reading a book out and about, like, as he's getting groceries, as he's pumping gas. Like, I think we should recreate Jacob Allerty. reading paparazzi photos. With Weathering Heights. Sure, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Or any book, yeah. Yes. You could also go one step further and have a purse, you know, just start wearing my purses out. I'll give you my boutiquega. I'll give you everything. Oh, I forgot you is also a purse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:14 We can do two and one, really. We can both, we can read the book and you could have the purse on you. He usually has a book in his back pocket. This book is a little too large. That's kind of funny, though. Trying to put it in there. Especially in your pants and your aviator nations just to get back there. That's kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I'm so down. Yeah, it could have Isaiah like shoot it or something like that. Okay, sure. Or you just want, you want it to be the proxie. No, I love. I mean, let's step it up. You can be inclined in AMC to get popcorn with the book. Okay, work, yeah, sure. For no reason.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I love that. I love what you're thinking. At the AMC, filling up the fountain drink and also, like, reading. Ooh, okay, do you have locations yet for where we should go? I was just thinking the gas station. Okay. After research to Jake Boyer, I love it. You know me.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I'm down for a photo shoot. I have like four photosuits already planned for February, so what's one more, really? I love that. Yeah, it's pretty camp. It's kind of high camp, in my opinion. I love the cover. That one's not Jacob Allorty, though. No, this is Jacob Allorty and Margarotti.
Starting point is 00:34:05 What? Right? Yeah. That's why I got it. Why should have brown hair? Did she have brown hair? Maybe in the, it's like dark blonde maybe? Or maybe it's just the stormy skies making it look a little darker than...
Starting point is 00:34:16 Ooh, I like that one. How far are you on it? I am, if you skip the little intro part, like the little... Page one. Chapter 1 Chapter 1, page 1, 1801 You read the intro? No, so I didn't read that far.
Starting point is 00:34:37 You don't read introductions? No, I skipped that. What about memoirs? Do you read the introduction to the memoirs? Oh, I guess so. This is just a reader's guide to Wuthering Heights. Like, do I need to know all the historical context behind it? No, I just want to get to the good stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Someone compared it to almost like 50 Shades T's, because also 50 Shades of Gray came out. It was a Valentine's movie, the first one. and the sexiness of Wuthering Heights is kind of giving that. Wuthering Heights and quotations. I feel like we really got to accentuate the quotations. Because it is just a version of Wuthering Heights. Yes, not in Wuthering Heights.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah. But I've kind of love that. I love the ideas. I love. And then I've seen Margot Robbie's quotes about Jacob Allorty like kind of go viral already. And people are like, oh, girl, here she goes. I don't know, to preface. She's, Margot Robbie's a smart woman.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So I don't know if she's saying. to kind of like build hype and kind of troll a little bit, like almost have that like, she's a married woman, a mother, and she's talking about her relationship with Jacob Allorty, so I don't know if she's still trying to get that like, you know, sell the romance of the two of them. But the quotes were crazy. The quotes were crazy. If she actually believes that, that's crazy. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:45 There's no way in my mind. Like, I know she doesn't. That would have a hundred for me. If I had a big movie coming out, you know I would be trolling up and down. Like, I would bring out troll-trisha, like, there's no tomorrow. I'd be like trolling everywhere for it. You should reheat these naches when the euphoria comes out and just be like, yeah, I was so codependent.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I guess we should say the actual quote. Yes, yes, yeah. She was doing an interview with Fandango to promote Wuthering Heights. And she said, I'm so codependent with people I work with and I love everyone so much. And I'm always that person who's so devastated when a job's over and I never wanted to end. I think I developed that quite quickly with Jacob too. I don't know if Emerald told you this or to do this or not. but I remember the first couple of days on set
Starting point is 00:36:26 he would always be in the vicinity where I was but like in a corner watching I didn't and then Emerald says I didn't tell Jacob to do that and she said she actually had to ask Jacob to leave at some point so he could stop like go off set and Margo said I found myself starting to look around to see where he was
Starting point is 00:36:42 I was really unnerved and unmoored and I felt quite lost like a kid without their blanket or something and she said that she was just so codependent on having Jacob around even when he wasn't in the scene I'm you know what it's okay I do think it's a troll but it is a crazy one because it's Jacob Allorty
Starting point is 00:36:58 do you don't mean if I feel like if it was like John Melkovich or something it's like nobody cares but I think because it's like Jacob Volody might be like you know what I mean and it's like a hot romance where you would kind of want them to really sell the idea that they could be a couple because I think when the casting came out I think we broke the news like Moses was the one to react to it
Starting point is 00:37:16 right when the story broke and I remember we're just like that casting seems a little crazy like Margot Robbie, Jacob Belority. What? But now it's like, I see the vision. I do see the vision. But I feel like rule of thumb.
Starting point is 00:37:29 If someone has like their fingers in your mouth, you shouldn't troll. You know what I mean? Because it's like you were physically there. So like, you know, trolling afterwards is kind of crazy. You know, if you have to do some really intimate and stuff. Yeah. She. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I love it, too. Me too. And like, it's funny because her husband is also in like the business. Like he's more behind the scenes like as a producer and stuff. but he must be like super secure because even like even though barbie and ryan gosling's ken weren't like really a hot couple like they still had to sell barby and ken you know like definitely when they were doing the promo to like have the idea of them together yes and he was tom was so cool during that whole press tour too even menda's with ryan gosling as well but yeah this one is just
Starting point is 00:38:14 so steamy yeah this is like steamy yeah this is like sexy i guess it sometimes last sometimes it was it sinnie sweeting glen paul has didn't last right through it. Both, yeah. Oh. Yeah. Sydney was engaged. And that, a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Glenn Powell's relationship didn't survive that movie. And then Sydney ended up breaking up with her fiancé a couple months later. So, yeah. And I hate to be that person thinking about Jason Moe and his new girl met on a set too, right? Oh, did they really? Yeah. Oh. So I guess the point is, is you do have to be very secure.
Starting point is 00:38:51 because look, like, I think it's like proven that that happens. Obviously, Mr. Mrs. Smith being the biggest one, right? Like, Brad Pitt was with Jennifer Aniston. The knowledge, like, it's like with Angelina Jolie. Like, I think it definitely happens. And like, I've always been the one to be like, yes, it's acting, but like there's a reason there's chemistry between people and sometimes there's not. You know what I mean? Like, like, you got.
Starting point is 00:39:12 So, yeah. But I think if you have a good relationship, like, if you know what you got at home, you know what I mean? Then you don't have to like, it's not an issue. I guess, you know. And also Olivia Jade, I gotta give it to that girl. She is kind of stronger than any, like, U.S. Marine. Like, literally she has to be the strongest woman in America because even, like, at the Golden Gloves when Jacob Bellorty was talking to Miley Cyrus,
Starting point is 00:39:36 who was also engaged, but everyone was like, ooh, Jacob said that he had a crush on Miley Cyrus as a kid. Like, he's, like, really trying to get with her or whatever. And then the next day, he was back in New York with Olivia Jade. And damn, Olivia Jade, she keeps her mouth shut. She is never out there stressing. She's never trying to, like, claim him. She's like, yeah, he's coming back to me.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And that's fierce to me. I do think, I do think Olivia Jade, yeah. She does seem like the most secure person. I think she's very, she went through everything. I mean, she went through that college scandal, which is crazy, which wasn't, I don't even entirely blame her, like, her mom was having her in a robo and being like another rope. You know what I mean? She's by like, what the fuck ass?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Maybe go along with it. But she is Gorge. I remember one time going to her house as part of a video with something. We don't need to do it. But. I remember being like, we're going to surprise. I don't know. I have no idea why.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Like, we were surprising here. And it was like, uh, like, it was literally like 11.30 p.m. at night. And I remember, like, going. I don't think they live there anymore. But like, I remember her house was like the big. It was like, it literally was just like a like a little country. There was like security just everywhere all like all over the place. But her bedroom was just like literally like the size of a house.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Like it was like the little steps down. And I was just like. So all that to say. and she's really beautiful and she like has her career as an influencer. I feel like sometimes the pretty people I think really do just have a security. You know what I mean? Although dating Jacob-Borri would be hard because he is always like kissing people in the camera. Like he is with all these beautiful people all the time.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Like I could never do it. I really couldn't, especially because she's not as famous as Jacob Lurie. Like I think if she was equally famous, it'd be a little bit more balanced. obviously she's like comes from a really a famous family a really wealthy family so that gives her some elevation but like in the mainstream media like she's not she's not really known for anything in particular besides like her parents and being an influencer and jacob is probably going to be oscar nominations are tomorrow morning but today if you're watching this so oh no as a betting woman i would bet jacob already probably an oscar nominee do they do carpets together
Starting point is 00:41:46 Olivia and Jacob They've only done one They did GQ Men of the Year awards Last year, I want to say And they've been, I think, on and off a lot Like they never confirm anything themselves Obviously, but there's always reports that they break up But then they end up being back together somehow
Starting point is 00:42:04 So it's kind of like all over the place Do you think I shatter out like Timmy style? No Really? I really don't know That's crazy, right? Like even if you're with someone It should be, I'm going to be a little hypocrite here It should be very Jason Mamoa this is the love of my life, even if you're together two weeks. Do you know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 00:42:19 you should, if you're, if you're dating the person at the time of the Oscar, like, you should be, you should get that thing. Thank you. I guess, but if they're so on and off again and the Oscar speech kind of lives forever, you know? Yeah, but as you should, like claim the woman you love in the moment. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know, you can have multiple loves of your lives. Oh, okay. Okay. You know what I'm doing it. Okay. You're roasting Jason Mamoa being so upset. I was thinking about it. You got more than one. You know what?
Starting point is 00:42:50 I really should sleep on everything. Even the email, I sent an email last night. And I woke up this morning and I had to be like, hello, good morning after sleeping on it. And I was like a professional email and kind of like a serious topic. And I was like, I should just always wait. I always should wait. I always wait. But yeah, I think you have multiple levels of your lives.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I think you should thank whatever women you're currently with because women are, they run the world. According to Beyonce. And I think like there is a reason why people, like, you know what I mean? like when you date someone, who's a good example of this? Maybe Christine and Desmond, because they're on my mind right now. But like people sometimes want to date the guy because of the girl. Do you know what I mean? I see.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Like they're like, ooh, I like her lifestyle. I like her. Or if I can get her man, I can be her. Yes. But you can't. Yeah. You know, you can take the man, I suppose, but you'll never be Christy or you'll never be, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:34 So when Olivia Jade is dating someone, not to say Jacob Lordy isn't like lusted over it already. But I do think it like puts him in a certain light. For me, I can relate it to like Harry Styles where I, I was like, nah, whatever. And then I see him date like, um, Zoe Kravitz. And I was like, wait a minute. You know what I mean? And that's how I think about Jason Mamoa, too.
Starting point is 00:43:52 I was like, wow, he, he gets like all like these beautiful, like he got Lisa Bonnet. Like he, he's hot. Obviously he's hot on his own. But do you know what I mean? I feel like that elevates people. Yeah. I mean, I think the quintessential example is like Pete Davidson, Ariana Grande. Ah, okay, that's a better example.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Not initially attractive, yeah. Because that just like elevated him into like the stratosphere. But, yeah, yeah. So I think people, anyways, my point is you should think the person you're, the girl you're with, because it makes you look cooler. Work, okay. Yeah, you know, that's what I think. I like Jane Porter. What's the gay movie he did?
Starting point is 00:44:28 It was like the horses one, right? Yes. You ever see it? It's pretty good. No one. You saw it? Yeah. Because I was working on something where the makeup artist worked on it.
Starting point is 00:44:36 On Swift horses. Yeah. I feel like it. People said it was boring, but I kind of liked it. Okay. I'm not really good with her. historical fiction tease. I mean,
Starting point is 00:44:46 Weathering Heights. Oh, yeah, work. But this is the sexified version with the giant strawberry. Like that's like almost science fiction. That's like fantasy to me. The fact that you saw the giant strawberry because I was like,
Starting point is 00:44:55 how did you pick up on that the first time? It was like, it was a big thing, the giant strawberry. Because everyone was like so upset about the concept of this being a Weathering Heights adaptation but having it be like whitewash
Starting point is 00:45:06 and having the costumes be so crazy and like the different ages between like Margo and Jacob Belorri. and stuff, but then they saw a giant strawberry and they're like, oh, this is camp. This is camp. It's almost like, I see. It always comes that Tina Fey quote to Bowen-Yang where it's like in the Emerald Phenelle
Starting point is 00:45:23 when there's a, and there's a twists in the third act or whatever. Yes. I feel like the twist in the third act is going to be it's all in her head or something. Watch it would be completely wrong and it's just a real adaptation. No, but I feel like that makes sense, actually. Right? Did you see the giant strawberry I got in West Hollywood? No.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Oh, they have this place called, um, like it's ORA bakery, Aura Bakery or something like that, And they had like these giant oranges. You've never seen them on TikTok. Shout out Jay Mukbanks does it. I thought the giant strawberry was like Arawan or something. No, they have an expensive strawberry. No, they're a Japanese.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Oh, we should try that though. Or maybe Chinese one, maybe there's Chinese one. And we're in our Chinese. You miss the Chinese baddie conversation. But it was a great one. It was, we're in it. We're in it now. We're hardcore in it.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Anyways, they have a giant strawberry at that place. And inside it's like cream and like sponge cake. Do you like strawberry shortcake? Yes, love, obviously. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, my God. Nobody I know like strawberry shortcake, but you mean Tana.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I don't love it. That's so crazy. Oh, I love a strawberry shortcake. Oh, we should do like a strawberry shortcake like festival or something for Patreon. Yeah. Sure. Does that everyone bring strawberry shortcakes? I love it so much. Okay, but now I'm thinking like we should do a Wuthering Heights one like with a giant strawberry.
Starting point is 00:46:25 But anyways, um, they're so good. It's basically, it looks like a giant strawberry. It's like this big and you bite into it and it like crunches and it's like spongy and strawberry inside. Oh, that sounds amazing. Ooh, okay. Look at that. I'm trying to figure out how to incorporate that into a Patreon.
Starting point is 00:46:38 But we'll figure it out. It's so, so good. It's almost worth driving there to get. because you kind of have to have them fresh. Remember my mom brought them for my birthday and they were like melted and they were kind of like mom won't. But when I did it fresh, it was so maybe. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:46:50 We'll make it sure. Yeah, I guess I brought it home. It was fine when we put it in the freezer. But I can always give you a cooler. Oh. That's probably the last time I went to get groceries. I had a cooler in the car. Oh, that's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Okay. Yeah. I mean, what's the age difference you said? I didn't know there was one. I think Jacob is 20. He's young. He's 28. And then Margot Robbie, I think, is older than me. I think she's 37. She's 35. Oh, okay. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Humongous. Yeah. People made a big deal about it. I think for as far as the book, I guess, or whatever. That is so funny. I guess when I read it, I'll have a better idea. Yeah, yeah, I need to get on it actually, too. I kind of stopped at like the third chapter. But I need to get on it for sure. I thought I was like halfway through and then I was like, no, I should listen to it. I had a long drive yesterday. I could have listened to it, but I didn't. Well, you know, it's Margarabi. What does her husband look like? Not that it matters.
Starting point is 00:47:47 He's attractive. He looks just like a normal white guy. He gives very normal white guy energy. Like he's tall, white. Right. Like dark blonde hair. Okay. And then Jacob did have a quote that I think Moses will be very excited about.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I think this is what's going to win you over and make you like opening night at Wuthering Heights. Oh, we're going to be there. We're already going to be there. He said, Jacob will already said that. that in the, when they were filming in the English countryside, that they would play Kate Bush's Wuthering Heights song on the Moors to get in the spirit. He said it was this really sort of profound thing
Starting point is 00:48:22 being Heathcliff and Kathy. Watching the sunset on the Moors, as the spirit of these characters have for the last 200 years, you can almost imagine that the spirit of this love that Bronte created is floating around there. It really did feel like we were catching little pieces of that unrequited love. Every quote from them sounds crazy, but I'm here for it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:48:41 It is very poetic the way they're talking. Did they actually say this? Like there's an audio of them saying this or someone wrote this for them. I think it must have been on camera because it's a fandanga. It's giving poetic. It is. It is. I read it obviously read an article.
Starting point is 00:48:53 But I love it. I love it. I got goosebumps just thinking about it. Really? Yeah, we were looking to you for the expertise on Weathering Heights, but realizing you only know the song and not the story. But still I think I have more. You feel it?
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah. What do you feel from just the song because you don't know the story? Well, the song is so like hunting, you know, it's like, it's, it's, um, you can feel the passion and the longing and the. What is the song about? She's, she's, welcome to, welcome to. He's me. He's, please. Um, it just sounds like she's calling him.
Starting point is 00:49:32 You know, the whole song is her calling him. It's me, Kathy, come home to come to my. Do you know all the words? Um, when I listen to it, it's different. Okay. Open your window. Open your window? It's me, Kathy.
Starting point is 00:49:46 It's me in your window. Like she's, I guess it kind of gives stalker vibes. It's me outside the window. I love, I love, I don't love stalkers, but I do love a little stalker vibe song. Yeah. Okay. Well, we're seated for you going to opening night. Yeah, I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I'm so excited. Me too. I don't even know. I hadn't literally no buzz or like I wasn't that seated. Once I saw it, actually the first thing I saw before the trailer was the Charlie X, The X music video, and Charlie was kind of serving in that. I kind of was living for it, the aesthetic. And then the trailer, I was like, this is it.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I love a movie. Like, it does give me back to 50 Shades of Great. And I remember seeing that movie when I was at Access Hollywood. Or me and every middle-aged woman in the office all went to see it, like at an early industry screening because we were that excited. Oh, wow. I lived. And I was so young-ish at the time, like 24 or something.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Did you like it? You loved. I love, like, a dramatic, like, romance like that. That's, like, kind of a phenomenon, too. I think it has to have, like, the pop-border moment and then also just be, like, so romantic like that. Especially back in the day when I was, like, single and, like, that's all I had going for me.
Starting point is 00:50:58 It was like. Same. No, I was too. I was living in my beach apartment. I went to go see it by myself, and I just remember being, like, and then even re-watching it with, like, Moses. I was like, oh, I want to watch, like, you know, I used to love, like, corny movies back in the day.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And I just, like, gave me nothing. I felt zero. The one I remember the most vividly is the first one. I think by the time that the third one came, I was like, I kind of had fallen off. Never seen. But I think when it was like fresh and new,
Starting point is 00:51:20 I was like really into it. Because didn't they have a baby in the third one? I have no idea. I don't remember that at all. Yeah, I think they had a kid, which I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:51:28 which I don't even know what happened, but it's like grow up because I think he was like, I can't have this baby. I'm like, okay, you're an adult, your dad, like get it together.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I don't know. The whole thing seemed juvenile and not sexy. I love, I love, Dakota Johnson. I don't know who the guy was, but I don't love him. Jimmy Dornan. Who was the other one that was up for it? Because it was like they were all in, oh, Robert Pattonson, right? No.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Charlie. Dunham. No. He is the, in the Addison Rayne, Netflix, True Crime series, he's the killer. Charlie Hummel? Not Charlie Hummel. That's Kurt Hummel. I know. Who's Charlie Dunham? I think his name's Dunham. Charlie. Is it? Hunham. We were in a mix. So close. We were, we got it. We got it. We had the samecy sons of anarchy, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I never watched it. He was the, I think he was originally cast, and then he dropped out, and then it went to Jamie Dornan. But. Why did he drop out? I actually don't remember. But that was the whole thing. I thought Jamie Dornan was good in it, though.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I mean, again, the bar was low for me. He was hot, so. Wasn't giving much for me, but was he famous before or after? Not really. It gave him a bit of a boost, I think, like fame-wise, but I don't know what he's kind of worked on since. Isn't that crazy, though? like he wasn't such a big movie and like obviously Dakota Johnson went on to do big things but like
Starting point is 00:52:42 he kind of didn't and it's like how can you be in such a big movie and not like launch you? I know. I guess it depends on what you take on like afterwards. I mean Dakota Johnson she was kind of done a little bit. She was in like rom-coms after that. She was kind of in everything to be honest. But she's also like Nebo Baby and so she has that going for her as well. So she has like a bit of an advantage. But the other guy that played Aladdin, he was in nothing else. after that. Yeah. And he was so good.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah. Enoch. Eric? Oh, Mennemissard. Yeah. And that was the whole thing too. I think he talked about afterwards how he kind of felt like he should.
Starting point is 00:53:20 It was in a billion dollar movie so he should have had opportunities. But then he didn't. That's so weird. Yeah. I think for him to probably a little bit of racism, I would think as well as like an actor color. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Naomi Scott, who was Jasmine in that.
Starting point is 00:53:34 She was in Smile 2 and she was really good in it. It's like a horror movie. And she was great in it, like critically acclaimed performance. But besides that, she hasn't gotten too much work either. Charles. She had Charlie's Angels. Yeah. She was in Power Rangers.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Oh, big movies. Power Rangers? When did that come out? Jeremy loves Power Rangers. I'm surprised I never heard about it. Like 2018. Did no one care? I care.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I was seen. It just wasn't very good. And Charlie's Angels also wasn't very good. That does that. Yeah. Sometimes it's just like the writing and not the acting. Yeah. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I guess we also see that with Simone. Ashley from Bridgeton 2 who was like obviously the breakout star and then was an F1 and then they cut like everything and you're like
Starting point is 00:54:13 I know I know I know that does that is that is sucks I guess another Netflix show that's in drama
Starting point is 00:54:23 is the queer eye drama and I am not a queer eye person but I've kind of been obsessed with the drama surrounding it after the interview with Gil King I had no reception
Starting point is 00:54:33 yesterday like literally a whole day and then I get to my car and I see like 30 group chats from like Jimmy, Oscar, Moses. And I'm like, this is odd. The manager, we're dissecting the queer eye.
Starting point is 00:54:44 The queer eye drama. Everybody was responding to like multiple times. Follow ups. Yeah. I was like, because I literally just got off, TikTok, like the clip of him came up and then I was trying to figure out what's
Starting point is 00:54:55 going on. Yeah. Like what? The queer. I know nothing. So I really do want to know this. Because like, first of all.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Because it didn't make sense to me. I like queer. I like queer. I don't know it's still on, but I like it. Yeah. It's been 10th. This is the 10th season.
Starting point is 00:55:06 10th and fine. of the new of yeah this premiered in 2018 this rebooted queer eye it's the 10 wow so were they doing like two seasons they were they're doing like multiple seasons a year wow honestly good run whatever's happening if they're getting canceled like they had a good run I don't see 10 seasons of a show that's crazy that's amazing because they're the they're the original queer eye early 2000s right oh my gosh damn I feel so old because to me queer eye is Carson Cresley I know Cee 2003 was the first one because I know it was like yeah gay people couldn't even vote when the first one.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I mean, not vote. Oh, my God. Get married. I was with you. I was like, no hate. No hate. No hate. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:55:46 So funny. Us being like, I want to donate to the no hate campaign. And Jim was like, well. The website hasn't been working since he has been doing. Why does it still have it? Yeah. Why are they still paying for the domain? But, um, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Because I'm like, Proposition 8, you know. That's gay. Oh, that's the, that was the gay marriage. Yes. And this was, so gay is couldn't even get married back then? Yeah. when the first queer art was on, which is crazy, like the leap and just, I mean, when you think about it, not that long, right? Like 2003, the first one premiere in 2018, the second one premiered,
Starting point is 00:56:15 like those 15 years. It was so monumental because I was in Illinois at the time. And I remember, like, my mom and sister and I were like obsessed. And I really truly feel for all of us, it was like the first time seeing gay people. Yeah. T. And it was, but we like loved, you know, that's when we're like, oh, we love this so much. And I feel like that's when it really like, clocked to us. So where I was like, oh my God, these are the people we want to be around. But you would never have seen it. I loved it. They were so fun.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And you never saw people like that on TV. Yeah. I love these people. And that's what I've read like so many articles investigating this. But one article that Rolling Stone did kind of like a deep dive when one of the Fab Five first left the show. Love the name. Fab Five. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Who says that? I love that. That's what they're called. Like they call themselves that. Oh, I love. Yeah. But Bobby Burke, he was the first one to leave. And then after he left, they kind of did a little investigation.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And they said, like, that was kind of the point that was showed. Like, it was never cool with, like, gay people. Like, you know, like, the girls are seated for dragways, where they're not really seated for queer eyes. I see. But it would be, like, the middle-age, maybe the mom in the Midwest who, like, has a queer son, doesn't know how to navigate it. And that's, like, the exposure to queer people.
Starting point is 00:57:22 So that's kind of sweet. I think that's very sweet. That's definitely, like, my mom, too, just being like, love this. It's just like, I don't know. You just, like, guess something you don't know about. That's kind of, like, the demo. So there's so much mess here. Okay, so premiere in 2018.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And then it was originally, right now, Jeremiah Brent is a part of the Fab Five, but before him was Bobby Burke. He was another member of it. And Bobby ended up leaving after eight seasons. And it was kind of drama with his exit too. So with the Five Five, there's Anthony, Tan, Bobby originally. Karamo and Jonathan Vanes. Okay, so you have the five.
Starting point is 00:58:06 JVN. JVN, yep. So you have, I guess there was this big expose with like members of like production and stuff, Rolling Stone did a whole interview. And there was, I guess, drama for a long time because like each of them kind of wanted to be like the breakout star, each member of the five.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And then JVN was kind of the one that was taking off the most. And production sources said that JVN was turning into like a monster on set. Like a big ego, like hard to work with. with the other member of the five fives. They didn't wanna like film with them because they were just like, very big headed, egotistical, whatever. Which is really shocking because JVN is the,
Starting point is 00:58:42 their whole like persona is like the sweet, the sweetest one ever, like so wholesome and stuff. They were the Dax Shepherd one where Dax put his like dumb ass put his mouth. Yes. So it just like completely goes against like JVN's like brand and persona. But they all were trying to like brand themselves as like individual and all kind of wanted to be like the breakout like karamo um had a talk show called karamo
Starting point is 00:59:05 um where to air and i think it was mostly on youtube and i forgot what channel it was it was on one of the basic cable channels though i believe and um it never like did incredibly well ratings wise or anything but karamo had his own show um and he has like a memoir antony his whole thing is like being a chef and he like started his own restaurant in new york but it's shut down recently um um Tan ended up... Why did you say it like that? Because they all like try to become a thing, like be their own brand, but all their like individual forays flopped.
Starting point is 00:59:41 At least they got somewhere. At least they got something, yeah. Like, you know, even having a talk show, if I had a talk show for like half a season, I'd be like, well, at a half a season. So like Karamo's talk show ended up being a flop. Antony's restaurant ended up getting shut down. Tan was the host of a Netflix show with Gigi Hadid that ended up not doing well.
Starting point is 00:59:58 JVN's hair care line ended up flopping as well. well yeah so like all of their individual things ended up flopping the curse of the queer eye it is kind of that right and then so that's why they all kind of agree to keep doing the show because they needed something to like be the anchor um to like uplift them so they wouldn't just like you know fall into like obscurity that's a good rule everyone should have you know always stick to your roots yeah because i think once you like leave that and they're like actually we don't want this and then here's a team with the first so it all comes back to karama which he's the hot topic but before it is a good name right is he cute he was originally in the real
Starting point is 01:00:30 world actually and his like beat in the show is like mental health um because they all have their like verticals basically is he good mental health or mentally ill he you'll be able to relate to him because he um in his memoir talks a lot about like addiction and being in bad like relationships and like very like toxic relationships and a lot of the times he was like the toxic one and then he had to like end up you know getting help and then going back and like having to apologize to his other partners for like his behavior and stuff. Oh, me. So.
Starting point is 01:01:05 We like Karamo. I do and I'm like especially he's for like a queer, a queer black man. I feel like he, you know, there has to be a lot of sensitivities there with like his treatment. A lot of people don't like Karamo because of how his interactions with people on his talk show because his vertical is like mental health. But he like does not have any like experience, professional experience. experience in the field. Like, it's just, like, personal, like, he's gone through a lot, so that's how he is a mental health champion.
Starting point is 01:01:37 But they don't love, they don't like that? I think because people, and this is just from a summary of what I read, basically, but a lot of people thought he would, like, talk with, like, authority on things despite, like, not having the qualifications of, like, a mental health professional, basically. And, like, the big thing that comes up is he infamously, his, the big thing that everyone always points to is during the pink sauce debacle, remember? Loved, yeah. Okay. Okay. What do you say?
Starting point is 01:02:01 So he had the pink sauce girl on, I'm sorry, I forget her name. But so he had her on his talk show. Yes. And then he had someone who went viral on TikTok for being like, this pink sauce, like, is not like cleared by like the FDA or whatever. And he was like on team pink sauce. And he was like lambasting the girl that was like, you are just like ruining her career. Like who cares about this, this and this. But everyone was like, oh, that's not.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Like the whole, all the audience, all the viewers are like, but was actually. matters if there's stuff in there that is like not what she says she is yeah well like like to have someone come on here and by the way you sup yeah like you just go past it so he was very like catty with the girl who's calling out the pink sauce so everyone kind of points to that um but also maybe a misstep from like i would assume we talk about this even with vile vials not to get them grace but it's like producers maybe like you were saying like producers are telling them like hit a point and so maybe they did that or i think just didn't have all the facts but then just like like really went in there like full force right was like not like open and hearing the other side
Starting point is 01:03:06 really i think he went in to that segment with his opinion made versus like being open and hearing the other side and kind of like coming somewhere in the middle got i got i think he went in hot too hot you know but i'm not completely against that one because i'm like i feel like if you were telling me to go in hot with somebody i'm like all right we got you and then i'm like oh wait but i don't know what i'm talking about people have like really strong opinions about him i I don't know that much, but if I wanted I read, like, nothing was that, like, crazy. Yeah. That's the biggest scale.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Yeah. That's like. But anyway, so in season eight, it was the original five to go back because it sets the foundation. It was the original fat five. And then Bobby Burke was having trouble with tan. Basically, in summation, none of them are friends. They all signed on for to do two more seasons. And Bobby thought the show was ending at season eight.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And no one told them that it wasn't ending. So he never, like, renewed his contract because he thought they were all in it together ending the show. Like they did a whole announcement. It's the end of Queer Eye at season eight. And then Netflix, and it was during the writer strike. So Netflix ended up signing them on for two more seasons. And then just didn't ask Bobby.
Starting point is 01:04:11 So he was like kind of just like left out. And then. Netflix and ask him. It was like also the theory is. But also like your co-host will tell you. Like you'll talk to people. And he has drama. He has a big fight with Tan France.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Tan is best friends with Antony. So they are kind of like a duo. JVN kind of. kind of on their own. And then Karama was good friends with Bobby. So Bobby, when Bobby left Karama was like really upset about it. And Tan ended up championing Jeremiah Brent to be his replacement. And Jeremiah is like a really big, um, into gay like interior designer.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Clock this. He's, he's the line with, God, what is his name? He has a pet smart line, by the way, you guys. Girls, if you got pets, not spons, but Jeremiah Brent's pet smart line goes pretty hard. So what is it? He designed as a pet front, like modern pet furniture. And it's really fierce. Why do pets need furniture? Like like like like aquarium stands and aquarium decor. He designed that? He designed that? Hamster decor, pet beds. Yeah. Wow. And there's an industry for that. There is an industry for that
Starting point is 01:05:17 because like it all kind of looks lame. But him and Nate Berkus, who's like a big interior designate. I think maybe just you are into that. Oh, I don't know. It flies off the shelves, a pet smart. Really? I don't know pets smarts are still around. It's closed up. Nate Berkus, I know. He was Oprah's friend and he had gold scissors at Target. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yes. She always had like the Nate Burgess for Target line. Yeah. So they're a power couple. Interior Design power couple. Oh, who's he with? Jeremiah Brent. They're dating?
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah. They might be married even. Yeah. Oh, unstoppable. But anyway. So Jeremiah doesn't need queer. He's got Nate Berkus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:47 He's doing his own thing. Like he's already pretty successful. But he's like really good friends with Tan. So Tan, the room, allegedly. Tans says no. But. Bobby says yes, that he kind of was pushing for Jeremiah to replace.
Starting point is 01:06:01 That's a crazy thing to say no, because as we know, I push you in every single thing I've ever been a part of. And I would never be like, no, that's not true. It's like, no, it's true. Like, I love Oscar, like, use Oscar for everything. But that's, like, not a bad thing, right? Why would he deny it? I don't see, like, what do you want your friend?
Starting point is 01:06:13 I think he just didn't want to look like you trying to, like, you know, replace. Usurp Bobby, but that's how Bobby feels. And Bobby has later said that they had, like, a huge fight, him and tan had a huge fight Bobby had like went and unfollowed everyone so it was like very toxic and then so that lays the foundation
Starting point is 01:06:33 because again Bobby and Cromo are like the closer of the two in the group of five so then when Bobby's been out though Bobby's been out yeah since 24 got it so yeah Jeremiah has already he was on season 9 this is season 10 the press week for Queer Eye was supposed to start
Starting point is 01:06:52 yesterday and then the 55 was they were supposed to do they were booked for a whole day of press like they were doing uh cbs with gale king then the today show after and then they were doing all the other outlets like at et access hollywood everything and then the four of them show up for gale king and then gail king drops the bombshell on them karamo's not here um she reads a statement from karamo and they're kind of like blindsided by it which that is gaggy to me like imagine if imagine if we have a press tour for I don't know. We had the judge for just for just Trish.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. And then I don't show up. You're wondering where I'm at. And then you're sitting with like Alex Cooper. And Alex Cooper is Trisha. Oscar says he couldn't be here today because, uh, for his mental health. What he and claims of bullying. Wouldn't that be crazy?
Starting point is 01:07:40 Oh, claims of bullying is crazy. If you like, I get that. Everyone deserves a mental health. If you're like, and also he says you bully him. I'd be like, what the fuck? Like that'd be so crazy. And then what do you say? So did she say that?
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah. So she read this statement. She said that we received word less. less than an hour ago that Karamo Brown is not going to be joining us today. And then she read this statement from Karamo that said, I hope that everyone remembers the main theme I have tried to teach him over the past decade, which is to focus and to protect the mental health peace from people or a world who seek to destroy it, which is why I can't be there.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And he, Gail said that his assistant had claimed that Karamo was afraid of, quote, being bullied. And then, yeah, she kind of like blindsided the rest of as Fabful. were pretty group they were all pretty group were they all holding hands is this like when I see where they're all my hands were they old against before or after during this she literally started the segment with that so I think it was like that's when they were they all they're just saying normal and all of a sudden they're like grasp like oh my gosh guys brace yourselves
Starting point is 01:08:41 that was crazy because I didn't even know the context of the photo I'm like something scary is happening you know like I couldn't believe something that could happen that's why I didn't understand what was happening I was so confused by it don't read those texts of context, I was so confused. But didn't he say they were bullying him? I was like, what is happening? And I couldn't fully grasp it.
Starting point is 01:08:59 But, okay. I know. It took me a while too because I was like, what exactly like is going on here? And then like as I go back and read the articles and exposés, because I get articles has been coming out for a couple years about the working conditions on the show. I was like, oh, this is actually tea. I think your context is so important because like now, because it's like, okay, well, he should, she said, whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:19 But it does sound maybe they have a history of. Yeah. I think they just are not friends. and you have five people who like each want to be like the star of the show and they're all going kind of be like competing for that. So it is this kind of toxic thing, toxic like work environment, especially when like the five of them are supposed to be like a family, you know, and like best friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Work well together and stuff. So it's one of those things for like the what you see on the show being so like the complete opposite of like what it is in reality. Um, it is wild though, just like, not give him a heads up or anything. Just like completely blindside them by not showing up. It is, it's fierce. Wild, but fierce is fierce. Yeah, I think.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And I, okay, I'm very new to this, but kind of on the team of Karamo because it's like, if you are going through some, right, like, I, I, at least not team him. I'm at least like, applaud him for being like, I can't, I can't do this. You know what I mean? I can't sit there and be fake or I can't sit there next to them if there's something that went down. It is wild to do that on live TV, but like respect, you know. You can't show up.
Starting point is 01:10:28 You can't show up. I'm a firm believer. It's like if you're having a mental health day or whatever, like mental health doesn't have a time, doesn't have a warning. It's just like, this is what it is. I can't do this today. I might actually crash out. Yeah, I think it is like a commendable to look out for yourself first.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I think he definitely wanted to make a statement though, like by doing it so publicly and like blindsiting them pretty much live on TV. like that's crazy. Fierce, nonetheless, like I said, it is fierce. Like, I'm so curious how bad that things got. Like, it is hard to tell based off all like, you know, hearsay and stuff as of right now. I was going to be worse than you would think because it's like, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:09 when people are like silent and they don't say stuff, like I feel like, I think we kind of got that. We talked about on the Patreon this week, the extended podcast where it was like the Brooklyn Beckham thing. Yeah. And then you could kind of tell by David Beckham's response. that, oh, it's like way worse than we thought. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:11:24 Because, you know, a normal parent would be like, support my child no matter what. But he was like, the way he responded was like, oh, I think there's like way more to it. So I think in general, it's always way worse and people are just doing their best at holding their tongue. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Because like even with, the only thing I can kind of compare it to my head to is like with stranger things. But before I came out, there was all the reports of David Harbor, Millie Bobby Brown, like not getting along in claims of bullying and stuff on set. And then, of course, there was statements saying that wasn't true,
Starting point is 01:11:57 whatever, then the press tour happened and David and Millie, like, you know, did a couple carpets together, but something is still weird about it, right? So, like, I don't know if I'm convinced nothing. Yes. Weird went on, but at least they put on the show. For the sake of the show.
Starting point is 01:12:09 For the sake of the show. And I think that's with them, too. It's hard because I think you're kind of screwed either way, right? Like, Karamo not showing up could, like, hurt his... If he said something, it could hurt his brand. The queer-eyed people, obviously, don't want to hurt their brand. All of them are trying to do solo things.
Starting point is 01:12:24 So if anyone's messy, you're going to be the messy one and you may be like outcasted from like everybody. You might get like, what is it called? Blacklisted or something. Yeah, like blacklisted, right? Like if you're the one that's acting crazy or whatever, um, sometimes that you're the one that's like. But the other thing is that the network allowed this whole fiascar to happen.
Starting point is 01:12:43 That's a good point. Where's a jar? Let's say if you basically, if you basically invite people to come on the show and one of the group doesn't want to attend, you're like, okay, you're not attend. but to allow him to send a video in, surprise everyone else. The network almost had a side. Like they kind of were on his side. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Because otherwise they would not even allow all of this to happen. But that's why I'm kind of like on his side too. I'm like, something fierce might have happened. And this is like, this is the best he could do with that without looking messy. You know what I mean? And being like, here's the statement. Like you said, I'm making a statement. There's something bad here.
Starting point is 01:13:14 And maybe the network does probably have HR as we know. Like they probably, you know. I don't know HR applies to like interview. Yeah. I mean, it's for employees. But maybe as a way. I think it's more like producer of the show or the host of the talk show on his side. I'm saying HR for Queer Eye.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Oh, for like Netflix. Yeah, Netflix. Like, you know what I mean? Maybe he had a complaint. He's like, this, this bullying is happening. And this is their way of like handling it as far as like not making anything too messy for everyone. But like respecting like his wishes and being like, hey, but I want people to know.
Starting point is 01:13:40 And like maybe this is like, I'm sure someone somewhere was involved. I'm sure he didn't just like send a video to who was it, Gail King. Yeah. I don't like you like, maybe text it. I guess I know some people. I guess if I needed to get a video to, entertainment tonight, just directly message you. I can be like, actually put this up right now.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Yeah, I think I'm kind of like, I'm like weirdly like on his side, I feel. I kind of think so too. I mean, I don't know enough to be like, to say for sure. But I think because what Bobby Burke has said, like when he left, he was obviously closer to Karamo. It does kind of sound like there has to be something more there where like the two of them really felt like on the outs but they felt there are five.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Yeah. And amongst the five, right? So, yeah. And obviously, Anthony and Tann are like really good friends. And then Tamm brings in Jeremiah. So then that's a group of a threesome, basically. Yeah, you feel a little ganged up on me.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Be like, I don't want any part of this. Uh-huh. So probably, like, felt isolated once Bobby was out and he was like more, Cromo was more like on his own in the five. He's in the new season. Yeah, the latest season.
Starting point is 01:14:45 The last season, yes. Last season ever. Yeah. And also normalizing. normalized not showing up for things you started. I love that. That's my babe. I don't think I've ever showed up to anything I started.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Like, you know what I mean? When something's like ending and like do you want to come back? God, there's been so many things. Oh, I came back from once to be a superhero. I'm trying to think there's so many things that I like did not come back for. So I'm your big brother. I didn't go back for that reunion. I didn't go back for once to be a superhero.
Starting point is 01:15:08 But like there are so many things that you're like, I'm good. You know what I mean? I don't know. I just don't think that you have to show up for something just because you did a project. And a lot can change. And if people are bullying, then that's a whole other thing. It does make a big statement, yeah, because, yeah, they, the, they did the CBS morning, morning show, whatever. Then they did Today Show, again, without Caramo.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Cromo again gave today's show, like, a little video message, too. So a similar statement. And then the rest of the press day was canceled. Like, they didn't do the rest of the shows that they were supposed to do. I want to talk to him. I wonder if you'd come on here and we'd be like, oh, you don't tell us about queer I, but I want to know. I need to know, like, backstory. I need to know current, what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:15:44 You know what I mean? And that's that he doesn't talk about the guys. I want to you so bad. Should I reach out? For a statement? I'm so curious. Like, I'm not the out of him now.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I don't know him, but I like him. I see, like, people were really hard on him when I was, like, researching,
Starting point is 01:15:57 but nothing ever was that. Like, obviously, there's, he has a memoir, and he talks about, like, all the dark parts
Starting point is 01:16:02 of, like, his past and stuff, but he, like, fully acknowledges the stuff that he did, like, how toxic he was,
Starting point is 01:16:07 like, abusive. He was, like, he knows, like, obviously he put it in his memoir. Like,
Starting point is 01:16:11 he knows how bad it was. He, like, like had work to apologize to the people he hurt. And sometimes people don't want to, I think this so truly, I think sometimes you're like, we want everyone to grow. We want everyone to get kind of ability,
Starting point is 01:16:23 but people don't want you to grow. They want you to stay stuck in that and be that like, no, but you were awful at one point. No matter how much you can change and grow and trying to help others, they want to, and then they'll use it against you.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Because he wrote a memoir about all that, like they'll use it against him for life, you know what I mean? And that kind of sucks, but. Because also something really serious must have happened because he's an adult. they're all adults he's a strong person strong character
Starting point is 01:16:45 something must have been so serious for him not to show up and to feel duly and to make like a big like yeah like it has to be very serious especially if it's your last season something small or not getting along they must have done something that really hurt him yeah especially because you know what that's the other thing too is like sometimes something could really hurt you but you're like well but i was a part of this show i did work really hard I'm going to show up too. Like he does deserve to do the press tour. But obviously he said he's like if he's gone through mental health stuff, he knows enough
Starting point is 01:17:17 to not go, which I can I can respect. This is sad. I hate the queer eyes fighting. I know. It's like, come on. Can we get along? Yeah, I know. No hate.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I'm so excited. Most day was asking me more details about this. Like, what is no hate? I was like, what do you mean? You don't watch the TikTok I sent you? It's my favorite thing in the whole white world. Maybe they shall do that. Campaign.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Oh, my God. I feel like if anyone can bring them the queers together, it's you maybe. So. Yeah. I would love the queer. The queer I love. I do. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 01:17:53 Unfortunately, yeah, it sucks. It kind of reminds me, like, not the same at all. But, like, when Tadric had an MTV show, I remember, like, every, all the gays were like, we hate this. Yeah, it was like real gays of WeHo or whatever. Yes, and people were so pissed. And it's like, I get it. Look, like, Todrick got.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Yeah. He has some, like, shady stuff, whatever. But it's also like, he has a show. It was right after drag race, too, right? Well, the guy is they made drag race shorter, a half hour shorter to give us a half hour real gaze at WeHo. And we're like, wait, but we don't want this. Oh, was that it?
Starting point is 01:18:22 Yeah. So people already came in hot. Oh, well. They were like, these people aren't even friends. They don't even know each other. Like, why are you trying to bring them as a friend group? I guess when you take away something that people love and replace it was something people just don't want.
Starting point is 01:18:35 But I did feel kind of bad for him. I kind of was like, damn, I get, I get like, not. whatever, but at the same time, gay on gay hate. I just feel like we have enough. We have enough hate. It's like women too, women on women hate. It's like, ugh, women. We're already going through it by everybody.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And like I always say, this is why the man keeps on winning because we're just all tearing each other down. The gays, the girls, everyone's just like mad at each other. I was like, why don't we be mad at the real villains of the world? Work. Yeah. You know? We can't get it together.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Mama kudos for spilling. Thanks. Yeah. We can't attack. right people. Speaking of attack, I do have an announcement to make an hour and 20 minutes
Starting point is 01:19:14 and Oscar Crave posed an Instagram story that was like Oscar Gracie allegedly went to Ted and it was 28th birthday party despite no photographic evidence and I was like, I was like, when your fans become your ops
Starting point is 01:19:26 I was like Ariana Grande I feel you girl because look how they turn on me and- I've had it happen so many times we're like, what that? All the comments are like yeah like there's no vlog, no photo he didn't even pull Ted aside
Starting point is 01:19:38 like this is sketchy and he went to the Abby I don't believe it. Something's fishy. And I was like, what? And I, thankfully, hashtag women's supporting women. Christian came through in the comments. It was like, I am a witness.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Ben Verde also came through. Okay, okay. Supporting women. Oh, Ben did. I thought you at mention and be like, where are you at? I had a beg. I had begged the girls to come forward and speak up. Raise your voice.
Starting point is 01:19:58 And Ben, didn't get a photo with you? No, I didn't get a photo with one. A straight, or a woman, I should say, took the photo of the gaze at one point, but I have no idea who they were or where the photo was. We need to see that. If you were the woman who took the photo of me, Darian, Austin, show, and Christian, please come forward to submit this photo. Like, I need this now more than ever.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Yeah, but first send it to Oscar so you can. Face it. Thank you. Good looking out. Good looking out. I thought you were met first because Oscar Crave posted a photo of you that were not edited. No, luckily, Nick would never do me unedited like that. So thankfully.
Starting point is 01:20:33 But I was gagged to see the girls turn on me for no photo evidence at Ted's 20th birthday. party. Also, it was liked by Trisha Padas, which I was like, okay, work. Did I? Yeah. I didn't see a photo of you. Like, like. That's how much she supports you. She does.
Starting point is 01:20:48 She does anything Oscar related? She likes it. I do, I do. I was like, oh, this is cute. Like, I didn't know. I actually thought it was like you at the party because did he put like a filter over, like something weird that doesn't look like the original photo? It was, no, it was like my, back in the day when Ted first came on, that was my
Starting point is 01:21:00 disposable era. So I had like a disposable app. To me it looked like a new photo and I was like, I love this. Work, love that. Even though it was at your house. So like when we're it? It was in your driveway. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:21:11 And it was a disposable camera? No, just a filter, like a disposable filter. Okay, that's what it was. Because I was like, wait, this is like a photo I haven't seen before. Oh, now. Yeah. So luckily I had to demand a retraction once, you know, we got this statement. Did he edit the allegedly out?
Starting point is 01:21:24 He posted the comments from Christian and Ben onto Instagram and Twitter. So I'll take what I can get. But damn. Ask a crave not letting up. Come on. He's like, 2026. Oscar, we need the photographic evidence. I was a little disappointed too that you didn't really say hi to Ted
Starting point is 01:21:40 because we could like verify with Ted. I could DM him but you wouldn't even know. Okay, well DM Austin show. Well, he could just cover for you. Gays looking out for other gays, you know what I mean? Like he could just be like, yeah, he was there, you know. But what do you trust the word of a gay man more than a stream? You should come and testify.
Starting point is 01:21:57 We did have a lot of comments of asking people. Okay. Yeah. I will have Christian and Austin. They don't live in L.A. anymore. But when they're in town. They live.
Starting point is 01:22:06 in Oregon, I think, but they fly every week to do fear and. I think we're going to figure out how to do a four camera because I do want Jimmy on one of the episode we do our secret project. Yes. I want mom, so we're going to figure out how to do four cams. That sounds complicated
Starting point is 01:22:20 though, huh? I mean, no, no, I already have the mixer for four microphones. I don't know how I'm going to be. You know, me with like multiple. Oversimulated. It might be a lot when there's a circle to look at, you know what I mean? But we'll see. I love it. I love them. Let's have one.
Starting point is 01:22:35 work yeah because they will come to my defense i love they're the opposite of queer eye with them it's like you know we look out for each other we could be the queer eye with four you jimmy christian austin that's almost all the queer eyes yeah we'll be the new queer eye here emmy i'm queer work yeah the new five oh that's kind of yours yeah fierce five oh my gosh love this actually actually yeah i take back my rule of not having multiple podcast uh people talking on a microphone at one time. We just have six people talking at the same time. This is that crazy?
Starting point is 01:23:08 That podcast do that. I don't see those as much. Remember that one with the black and white wall always behind them? Like I always saw that one. I don't see that much. So whatever that company was must have folded because I always see. They're just probably not as viral. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:22 There is a whole part of the internet that I'm just like. Yeah. You know, when you see podcasts, that gets so much. And you're just like, who that? Yeah. Who that is this? Everybody's watching it, I guess. Call her daddy got.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Michelle. We had just talked about how we were on the same political campaign for healthy lunches. I haven't talked about Michelle Obama everywhere for the past few weeks. I was like, damn, I really thought that could be. I haven't listened to it yet. I wonder if they're talking about school lunches on there. The headline I saw thus far this morning was that they, Alex Cooper drew the line to not talk about sex with Michelle Obama.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Okay, that seems. I mean, seems fair. Appropriate. Although I guess if there's one person we don't know about their sex life, it might be Michelle Obama. True, yeah. I would love to know lots of things actually. Menopause, like, I wonder what happens then because I think I'm, who was it? Was it Amy Polar?
Starting point is 01:24:14 Yes, but Jennifer Lawrence. And told her she was perimenopause. Yes. And I was like- Because her ear was itchy. So weird because my ears are itchy all the time. And I was like really, I've been like doing my best nap, but they are so itchy. They feel like they're burning.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And then I was like, oh my God, they're premenopause. And also I'm like, maybe I'm going through menopause. And I like have so many questions that is like, does it still? like your vagina still work because people don't talk about it online and trust me once I go through menopause if I still have a microphone or a camera I will tell you every detail
Starting point is 01:24:41 because there's just no videos on it there's no 50 something longer you'll be doing it in your car eating something talking about my boss I'll be hot, I'll be sweaty I hope I have an appetite like it's all so scary to me people like lose weight on it they don't
Starting point is 01:24:54 they're no longer lubricated there's just so many things I'm so I'm not scared I'm ready for it but just the unknown and I would love to know about sex lives during menopause, but I suppose it's not appropriate to ask people. But I would love, when I'm 50, you can ask me those questions.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Anybody I go on their podcast, because for educational purposes, I would like to know for myself. But I suppose you can't ask someone those questions. I don't know. Maybe Amy Polar. How old is she? She's probably, she must know about metapause. She's talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:21 She sounded like an expert on it. Yeah. So maybe she seems like something to be open. She looks okay. She does look great. I really love that podcast. I really do. I did deserve the golden globe.
Starting point is 01:25:32 The golden globe. I agree. Yeah. Jennifer Lawrence. I really like Jennifer Lawrence, too. I really feel like she could come on this podcast. Jake Shane is really trying to get her, but damn. I know.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Jake Shane's getting all of us. We talked right before we got on here that you got acquired by Netflix for his third season of Theapest is exclusively on Netflix. That's crazy. That's crazy. I had a meeting with Netflix like six months ago. I'm like, could have been, it makes sense as Jake Shane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Good for him. But I'm gone for Jaylau too. I'm also going to, you know. Deh ever. Yes. She active on social media. I know. No.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Jeanette Bucerne is not on social media either. I really want her on. I know she's like literally doing Jimmy Fallon and Call her Daddy, but I really want her on. I'm like so like, I'm so, anyways, Jennifer Lawrence, if you're out there, we would love you on. I just think she's like, I feel like she'd be a great guest because I don't think I'd be nervous because, again, I'm not like a super fan.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I love her, respect her. Of course, I think she's, like, I just think she's funny. I think so, I mean, I've always loved her since. She was a client of mine since back in the day, so. Would you be nervous? Oh, no, you met her. You've interviewed her. I've never interviewed her.
Starting point is 01:26:30 I was at a, per. I was at the Catching Fire premiere as an intern, but she was sick and she didn't do interviews. That's the closest I've gotten to her. Other than that, I've never. But she's always been a client of mine, and, you know, it's always nice to see a client from way back in the day go on and be so successful and an Oscar winner and everything in between.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And she talks a lot about postpartum. She's just, like, open. She's real. I want to talk to her. So, Janfer Lawrence, you're my number one right now. She really is my number one. I don't think there's anyone above her. I just think she's so funny and witty.
Starting point is 01:27:03 everything I see her in, I'm like, yes, I love her and I want to see more of her. Someone else who, I am excited that you know about Club Chalemay. Yes. Okay, well, Club Chalemay now has her eye on Connor's story. Oh, no. And she... The fandoms are erupting right now. I know.
Starting point is 01:27:21 It's why... Okay, so Club Chalemay, I'm not going to do the TLDR because there's just so much lore there. What's TLDR mean? Too long didn't read. Like, basically the top line, like, key points. TLDR. Basically, she's... an older woman. She runs a stand-accom for Timothy Shalame. She's very divisive. Some people love her.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Some people think she's creepy, does too much. Nonetheless, she goes really hard for Timi C. And she is serious about her clients as well. She previously before she was Club Shalamee, she was a stand-account for Michael Fastbender. But then people say that once Michael Fassbender got married, she didn't care about him anymore, moved on to Timi C. Now that Timi and Kylie are super serious. She never really acknowledge. just Kylie, like she does not like Kylie. So now people speculate because he's so serious with Kylie, maybe they'll get married or something, that now she's kind of in the weeds of moving on. That's the speculation, although I'm sure Simone Kromer, Club Chalame, will probably testify
Starting point is 01:28:19 that she is still writing hard for Timmy, getting him that Oscar. But she commented... What if he wins the Oscar doesn't thank her? Do you think she'll be mad? I don't think this anyway. What do you mean? You're saying for the Oscar. No one is working harder than Club Chalemay.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Like Timmy's publicist is not working harder than Club Chalemay, manager, family. No one is working harder to make Timmy see an Oscar winner than Club Chalemay and has been doing it. Like, she's boots on the ground, like in the weeds. Anytime there's negative press, like she is outshining it with, she's finding the positive. Like when he was, when everyone was annoyed with him for like the Marty Supreme,
Starting point is 01:28:57 like he was being too egotistical, she was spinning it. She was like, this is obviously him being. method for Marty Supreme like this is him and character like she was like controlling the narrative it was almost giving like Carrie Washington in the show where she's the publicist like public she's the president's
Starting point is 01:29:14 publicist yes what was that one I know Jake Shane loves the show I love it too what's her name what was that show? I know her character was Olivia Pope what was the show scandal scandal she is like the Olivia Pope for Timothy Shelemagne okay but he knows her so he knows what she's doing
Starting point is 01:29:29 okay knows her is a little while because she does Because when she talks about meeting him and stuff and her encounters with him, she definitely takes some creative liberties. Like she'd be like, he came straight to me in the crowd. And there's like her in the crowd of like 500 people like with in the autograph sign at the premiere. And he'll come and like, you know, sign and take a photo. But how do we know that? He wasn't like, oh my God. I do that to be blind.
Starting point is 01:29:50 I'm like, oh my God. Like I know. Yeah. Okay. I believed it too. Because then she was at the Palm Springs Film Festival Awards a couple of a month ago. and her account was, I went up to Timothy. Kylie was there.
Starting point is 01:30:05 I was so gracious. I was like, this is your year, Timmy. And he was like, he gave me a hug. He was excited to see me. And then the video came out where she was kind of like lingering in the back. Kylie was getting up to go to the bathroom. So she had an inn. So then she went up, like gave him a hug, like put her hand on his back.
Starting point is 01:30:20 And he was like, hey, yeah. And then like just kind of kept it moving. And then she talked to his like security guard or something. When Kylie wasn't there. Kylie was on the way. Kylie was like getting up trying to go to the bathroom or something. But oh, you mean what if she was? Oh, you think Kylie is like...
Starting point is 01:30:34 Kylie was not there when she came up to... Kylie was there, but her back was turned. Because she was like getting up from the table. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it was like, it was the opportunity to strike for sure. But her account is very different from like the video account.
Starting point is 01:30:47 That's also valid. I'm not trying to be this defender of this person. In case this person is unhinged. I don't know. Maybe not. But like when I have sympathy for her. But I also feel like when Moses, every time when Moses leaves, 10 out 10 times someone comes up.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Like, no matter what, if we're at a movie, if we're at a theater, if we're at the grocery store, if you're going to the bathroom, a thousand percent someone's going to come up once Moses leaves. So I do think it's a, it's like an opportunity
Starting point is 01:31:10 and not like a creepy, in our situation, not a creepy way. I think people feel like less. Intimidated, maybe? Less intimidated. Less interrupting. Less interrupting. You know, my favorite is when like,
Starting point is 01:31:21 Trish, you look so lonely over here. I'm like, well, he literally just left to go to the bathroom, you know? But I'm understandable. And, like, I'm just, I feel same. I feel like I would probably go up to someone, but if they're like with their like wife or something,
Starting point is 01:31:33 maybe it feels a little like, like. Intrusive. Intrusive. I guess it's kind of, yeah. I don't know. Actually, I'm trying to think. But some people are really nice. Like, Dony Asman is just like, like, super sweet.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Like every time he sees me, he's like excited. I'm excited when I see certain people that I see over and over. So he, maybe he was. Maybe he does like her like that. You know, not like that, but like, excited to see her. I would, yeah. I mean, I would think that because he is such, I mean, she is such a stand of him.
Starting point is 01:31:58 But yeah, the video just didn't give like, I can't believe you're here. It's so good to see you. You know what I mean? Versus like, I think, again, I always hold it. Taylor's like my example because any time I see it, like, whenever I would see her pre-folklore or whatever, like, she would be like, hey, it's so good to see it. Like, even if she wouldn't know my name, she would, like, kind of remembers faces of like the big stands. So there's kind of that like excitement, even if it's fake. It could very well be fake, but like she makes it seem.
Starting point is 01:32:24 But like, Timmy was just like, hey, like, as if it's just any old girl. But I do feel like guys are like that. I think Moses can be excited to see. Even if he's excited to see me, it looks like he's not. Yeah, he's very much just like you would never see Moses. Because there's a TikTok trend where it's like my husband finding me in the crowd. Like nobody. And I'm like, you know what I try to do that with Moses so many times like Barnes and Noble.
Starting point is 01:32:44 And he's never surprised to see me. He's always like. Hey. Yeah, literally just like there's mommy. Like just you know what I mean? So I think some people just don't have. Okay. So maybe, yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Unless we've seen to me excited. Has he ever been excited for anyone? I mean, I maybe just. with like Kylie or whatever. Like he definitely looks like like a puppy dog, but that's, that'll be very different.
Starting point is 01:33:02 You're right. So yeah. So T. Okay, yeah, maybe you're right. I don't know. I'm just trying to.
Starting point is 01:33:06 I don't think so. Okay. You don't think so? What? You don't think he's excited to see her? I've seen like, because her only thing that she can, um,
Starting point is 01:33:16 negotiate like her currency is how close she is to him. And I think she makes up how close she is to him in that. In his opinion, allegedly. Yeah. I think that's, because like you said, he'll come across.
Starting point is 01:33:28 He's like, oh, we were hanging out backstage. And Timmy told me this when he was talking maybe to a person next to her in line and said something. Maybe he did tell her something. I've told Trish Crave some things. Not anymore, though. No, I love Trish Crape. But, you know, I don't know. I don't know the situation.
Starting point is 01:33:44 I don't know how he feels about it. She seems pretty harmless. You would think that. I think he's being cautious. That's all. Yeah. But he's so, like, Club Shalameet is so viral. Like there's been, like, articles in, like, different, like,
Starting point is 01:33:57 magazine stuff about her that you would think he would be asked about Club Chalame at some point because you know anytime something's viral you're going to get asked about it so I'm like is there like a stipulation of this podcast like don't ask about Club Chalame I don't know it's the asterisk on the corner it's like we're not allowed to ask about Club Chalamay
Starting point is 01:34:13 so yeah so Club Chalamay commented on a photo of Connor's story and just commented oh Lord like it was Connor's story like mauging like looks so good and people were like oh she has her side set on a new white boy oh god and then she made an official statement um
Starting point is 01:34:34 about her new stanica who was asking for the statement who cares that's a great question i just put it for the same i was like damn that's big news i mean it's a hot topic to me yeah also normalize just putting out a statement when no one else yeah i'm going to start doing that yes tea my statement on this nobody asked she said i have become repulsed from the immature discourse surrounding heated rivalry and the lead actors and supporting actors. Haders invited me to create story times, which will focus on Connor's story, but will also include cool Hudson info. And now the new account is StoryTimes, which is a good name.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Yeah, that's great. One thing about this woman, she'll come up with a good name. She's got a branding. Plus, Charlemais, Storytimes. Like, is it fierce as fierce. Yes. Fierce is. So Connor Story, I think future Oscar winner Connor.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I mean, with Club, Chalemay, running your, like, campaign. of her own volition, like calling free will. Connor Shore, you have a bright and long career ahead of you. She is, seems to only be going after young hot male actors. She does a campaign for me. She's not campaigning for, you know. It's what I'm saying. It seems too personal.
Starting point is 01:35:40 She's the thing for hot guys, I guess. And I mean, but when she, I feel like when she picks someone, like clearly Michael Fassbender ended up being like she, in a lot of critically claimed performances, Timmy 2. So I'm like, Dan Connor. She has the touch. She is the equivalent. Me and Pop Girls is Club, Salome. with like a white actor.
Starting point is 01:35:56 That's kind of how I see it. Oh wow. You put yourself in the same category as I'm telling me. I think with our clients, we just have that kind of sense. Okay. Yeah. We have an eye for an eye for illustrious careers. It is interesting.
Starting point is 01:36:06 I know what you're saying because it's like interesting how people. How old is she? She is like in her 40s. I guess it's like. Oh, 59. She's rethinking everything is said so far. Hmm. You know, like, I do like that she has, like, a passion, you know, I don't know. Like, it's hard. I guess I'm such a fan. So, like, I, like, kind of see where she is. And I've definitely been, like, probably, oh, Lord, on, like, a Walton Goggins post or something. You know, like, I get it. Um, I guess as long as they don't have a problem with it. I guess if they had a problem with it, then, like, she wouldn't be around them. Like, she wouldn't be able to go up to him and stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Yeah, I'm sure he's, yeah, I'm sure, especially. because she is so popular, like, they would tell them, like, yeah. So, I mean, I think it's okay, but, if he wins Oscar, he better think. At least in the press room. Even if it's not on the stage, go on the press room, give club show on this. Oh, she would die.
Starting point is 01:37:14 That would be so great. It would be great. I'm going to, if I win the I Heart Radio Award, I'll make sure to shout out Moses for campaigning every day for me. I really do think I'll forget. Like, I just know myself like I'll forget to thank him, my number one campaign manager. I'll bring a little sign.
Starting point is 01:37:28 I'll bring a sign. Yeah. Yeah. That'll be everything. You have to pull out your little. I love when people pull out the little written speech and it's all crumpled up and stuff. I'm going to do it for you. I'm going to pull out a long one.
Starting point is 01:37:36 I have like a paper. The part of time paper. A little gestureish card. Thank you, guys. Okay. What was she in the news for? Just for launching story times. Her new, yeah, her new client.
Starting point is 01:37:46 And also. That's like club shout me, but now it's called story times. Yeah, so she's moving on. Like, I, I, it'll be, right now it's on Instagram. That's where she. Did you follow? No, I'm a little skeptical of it But we'll see
Starting point is 01:37:58 It's also like I'm almost too inundated with Hudson and Connor So I'm trying to like see less Because I feel like I'm also in the bat Like anytime something negative People like I'm in that Like whenever the fans are like mad at Connor And Hudson for something
Starting point is 01:38:11 Like that's what I'm seeing So I'm trying to take a back seat to heat a rivalry right now Oh I'm opposite I'm trying to get in the front seat I feel like I'm overconsumpt I feel like I'm underconsum I don't DMM Because I weirdly I'm like out of the discourse
Starting point is 01:38:23 And I feel like everyone's like Key to ride it I'm like I really see nothing about it And I feel like I need to be more in it Go for it Yeah damn him He was a YouTuber at one point Yes
Starting point is 01:38:31 He's active on social media Yeah and honestly gag this I think this If anything will sell you on it It's he's in Joker 2 Connor's story My favorite movie My number one on letterbox
Starting point is 01:38:44 I love this movie We need to watch so we can discuss Who was he? I guess he I had no idea Obviously I've never seen it I guess he was at the end He was like a character at the end.
Starting point is 01:38:54 He was supposed to be like, he was hinted, I guess, to become like a new Joker or something. Like if the story were to continue. Oh, I love. Yeah. So I guess DMM, don't even mention he'd a rival. I just because, hey, I love your performance and Joker too. You're my favorite movie on Letterbox. Someone told us to get him on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:39:10 I was like, yeah, I've been making notes. It's like Connor, Jennifer Lawrence. Who is my third one? Jeanette McCurdy. Jeanette McCurdy and Caroma. There can go. I think it'd be great. Did you make a note of that?
Starting point is 01:39:19 Someone make a note so I can remind myself of this. Jimmy. Sammy, Jimmy has 5,000 things on his. I sent him like 5,000 text last night because yesterday I had to get up at 4 a.m. So I had to say it at 4 a.m. all these like things. And then looking at 7 p.m. He's like, sorry, I just got to this.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry for the bombardment of text. I think he stays up late editing and I think I'm up super early. So that is course, I wish people could see your full alpha. I really love these sneakers with the gray aviator nations. Yeah, it is a wild look today. I like keep it just serious up top and then casual and a lot. I like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:56 I really like this look to say. The purple reminds me of, um, Rehielio and Jane the Virgin. Oh, work. I mean, I think I've said this before. I've worn it before, but, um, there was a Tumblr photo of Harry Styles wearing this,
Starting point is 01:40:08 this American Apparel sweater. And then I went literally, immediately on my lunch break, because I think I was in, I'm interning at Studio City. And there was an American Apparel in Studio City. So I went like on my lunch break and instantly was like, do you have this lavender, um,
Starting point is 01:40:22 sweater that Harry Styles was wearing? Oh, I love. Yeah. How much was it? Probably. Probably. But I mean, this was like 2014. So, you know, it's been over 10 years and it's held up.
Starting point is 01:40:33 It looks great. Are you ready for the album tomorrow? The single aperture. Yeah, of course I'm ready. Album is a Marsh Mama. Oh, okay, the single. Are you ready for it? I'm so ready.
Starting point is 01:40:43 People have been like, because he posted this album, the single cover. And it looks like kind of like a candid photo of him looking happy. And people are like, oh, this is why no one uses a recent. Harry Styles photo as like their Stan account icon because he is looking chopped and I was like he is not chopped. Why? People just think he looks older and yes he's older and like his hair is shorter now. He's my age.
Starting point is 01:41:07 So like, yeah. Chopped, unc wash. Yeah. Just kidding. At 33? No. I don't think so. People are saying that.
Starting point is 01:41:14 How are you? 33, yeah. So I know. It's rough. How was your 33 year? What? How was your 33 year? Last year?
Starting point is 01:41:24 Yeah. Well, I was depressed most of last year, but so far, this half of 33 is looking pretty good, I guess. They say 33 is the magic number. My sister will be 33 tomorrow, I guess, is her birthday. And she can be 33, and most of that was his best year. And, you know, that's the year Jesus went on the cross for us. So that was a good year for. Was it for him?
Starting point is 01:41:44 He said, I love this. That was his purpose, right? It was 29 to 33. It's very transformational. Yeah, this year he resurrected. I mean, that's pretty impressive. That is impressive. You know if the story of Jesus is true, which I'm inclined to believe it.
Starting point is 01:41:58 That is crazy. How do you rise from the dead? They're like, question, was he off the cross or was he in the tomb? Because they say he rose from the tomb. But I thought he died on the cross. The stone was moved. But I thought he died on the cross. They took him down?
Starting point is 01:42:11 Yeah, and put through him in the tomb. Okay. That seems less. You never see tombs these days, right? Like, who, no one gets put in the tomb. I think I'd rather have that. the family tombs like Romeo and Juliet where there's just like a giant like their giant rooms I guess is it the is a present day version of a tomb like a mausoleum
Starting point is 01:42:30 is that when you build the little like structure on the cemetery well that's above or beyond too it's expensive yeah but a tomb was above ground wasn't it oh I thought it was below I think it was because they with the stone because they didn't build it it it was kind of a cave oh they sealed the cave with the big rock how do they get in there then I guess It was just like a kind of like Hunger Games cave, I'm assuming. And you just keep going in when someone dies? Because don't you get a family too? No, in this case, they just sealed it.
Starting point is 01:42:58 They didn't want anyone to go in or out. Okay, but when like their kids die, where did the kids go? I'm talking about this specific case. They just want to seal it. Right. Yeah, no children. Except for all the... Oh.
Starting point is 01:43:15 I think we're the children of God. Oh, Jesus is all our daddies. Well, the Trinity. How is that? Yeah, so. Were you raised Catholic? Yeah, I was raised Catholic. I went to Catholic school.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Ah, so you just signed across? Yeah. Yeah. Why did they do that? I couldn't tell you. Do you take the waper? Who had a waper? They have Hidden Valley Ranch of wafers.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Did you see that? Did you see it? Like, what do you mean? Like, I guess her community, they were wafers. Where did I see that? That was crazy. It was like viral. It was like on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:43:48 What? Like a church was using those? Yeah. Fierce is fierce. You buy them better, I suppose. Yeah, a little flavor in there. You like ranch? I do like ranch.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Do you like ranch? No. I was going to say, you're not like a... Creamy white substance person. Yeah. No. You don't like mayonnaise? No.
Starting point is 01:44:06 You don't like a pesto? No. Like green pesto? Nothing. You buy them a macho grill these days. I love macha. Oh, you like matcha? We are got to go on our matcha kick around here.
Starting point is 01:44:17 We'll get the giant strawberry. We'll try some matcha. The L.A. I think it would be a part of it. That's fun. You know Tariami is a hair style stand? Like, Stan? She has like two tattoos for him.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Oh, I didn't know she was that much of a stand, but I knew she lived for Harry. I love that. I have to get into it. I'm not quite there yet, but. Maybe this era will kind of win you back over it. Have you ever seen Don't worry, darling? That I loved. Okay, work.
Starting point is 01:44:42 It seems like a U movie. I loved that movie. Yes. I actually was like, I wanted to move to Palm Springs up to that movie. I like love it so much. He's a good actor. I think so, too. Some people thought he was not a good actor, but I thought he was giving.
Starting point is 01:44:53 I thought he was very handsome in that. That would be what I would consider a horny movie somewhat. Yeah, besides, I guess, the ending. But... What happened to the end? He was an install at that. Adobe Acrobat Studio, your new foundation. Use PDF spaces to generate a presentation.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Grab your docs, your permits, your moves. AI levels of your pitch gets it in a groove. Choose a template with your timeless cool. Come on now. Let's flex those two. Drive design, deliver. get sing AI builds the deck
Starting point is 01:45:22 so you can build that thing do that do that do that with acrobat Learn more at adobee.com slash do that with acrobat What's that? Remember like he was like I know this term
Starting point is 01:45:39 He was like a He was like ugly loser Like hated women He like was locking her in this In the virtual world You don't remember the ending? She might have fell asleep At that whole
Starting point is 01:45:48 Oh my God I just remember the moment The ending was a big deal Like they made him look like all Like, they, because they were basically drug in, like, basically it's a story like it's about drag addicts, but the whole story we see is when they're in their high, like in that world, it's perfect, but. I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:46:05 They were all drug addicts. Like, they weren't really there. Their bodies were actually in. The men or the women. Both of them were actually in a different world, like poor and he kept her. Yes, like, uncong, or in the coma, basically. How did you miss this? How did they get there?
Starting point is 01:46:22 It was he like went and did it like against her will and then that's why like yeah he was like a loser I mean his character like was broke didn't have a job what? Like he was pretty women like not very attractive they're all just like roofing these women Well they were like they went to some tech company like there's some technology company or whatever and then like yeah locked like their brain was like in this like world where she was like the step for life was like a simulation yeah so that's not real no like you're a drug But you have to have a bot anyway. Is that okay?
Starting point is 01:46:57 I'm fine. Loved the first half of the movie. Love the first half of a lot of movies. And the second half always gets weird. You're always like, what the f***? Okay, well, he was a good actor. I guess he probably was even better actor than if he had to like turn ugly and weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:12 You didn't get nominated for anything? No, no. That movie really went through it. I wish we were around when that movie press store was happening because that would have been fierce. Like, we would have had a topic every. We would have done like a third and fourth episode a week just to keep up with the press tour drama. I remember how crazy it was with like Olivia Wilde, Haynes-Stiles.
Starting point is 01:47:29 They were dating. Yes. And I remember there was this video, Chris Pine. And someone thought Harry Styles spat on Chris Pine because of how it was filmed at some at Venice Film Festival. And then they had a release statement saying like, no, Harry Styles did not spit on Chris Pine. It was a whole debacle. It was a whole thing. And I-
Starting point is 01:47:46 You were seated. What were you doing? You were working? I was working, yeah. So I was still covering the beat. What did you do? before this podcast when you had stuff to say. It is honestly an amazing question.
Starting point is 01:47:56 And I do not know, like where. I guess I would just talk to Daryan about it. I really don't know. Like, where would I do with these opinions? I actually know idea. That you never did like blogs and stuff like that. No. And I wasn't really tweeting either.
Starting point is 01:48:09 So I don't know. That's crazy. It's like when you want to say something, like when I want to say to me, I'm going to TikTok. I need to talk about this. Like it's so funny that you never did that before. T.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Because I kind of retired from Twitter like 20, by the time like 2020 came. around with it wasn't tweeting that much anymore. So yeah, I just had thoughts and didn't say them. That is actually crazy. Yeah, like that's what, you know, it's always trips me out when people just don't share their thoughts in the world. I'm like, well.
Starting point is 01:48:32 I never thought about it until you asked that question. Wow, that really threw me for a loop. Well, we can always maybe regress and go back to 2022 or something. Yes, very chronically online girl explains. Like, we'll just pick a topic and just talk about it like it's hot. When we need, yes, when we need like an evergreen episode, we'll be like, hey guys. It's April 22. So what are the hot topics of the month?
Starting point is 01:48:53 I live for that. That is fun. You did that for a dramagetan. Like, tea. Oh, that was fun. When you have the right capsule to.
Starting point is 01:49:00 That was such, that was so crazy. That was so crazy because it's like, I was obviously there, but I just don't remember any of that. Like none of it. And it just like shocks you so much. You're just like.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Yeah. And if you're not on our Patreon, just join, go watch all of that and go back to, like, it's worth it just to go back to see all that. Oh, we should make the Jamagetan playlist.
Starting point is 01:49:19 So they can just easily. Yeah. Go to it. Yeah, because now they change the app so you can have playlist, all that stuff. Okay, Unk. Mm-hmm. What? Let's say on SNL on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Okay, Ong. I couldn't tell what reference that was. That's it. You know what the word was I was looking for last time when I was trying to think of a Gen Z word is cook? Am I cooking? Oh. Have you heard it? Of course, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Like, that's a new one for me. What? Did I cook? Or let me cook? Yeah, I mean, it could go two ways You can be like, I'm cooked, meaning like I'm fried Or like I'm cooking me and like I'm cooking up I'm like really making some points right now
Starting point is 01:49:57 I'm doing something good I love that one. Yeah I'm cooking right now I liked it I didn't I never heard that one before I like the new slang I like Genzy slang
Starting point is 01:50:06 I have an update on the glam bot debacle The Glambot scandal I know I'm sat for this I was like all these posts this morning I feel like I was I was really on the beat Because I was already I brought up I brought up the email
Starting point is 01:50:20 is getting resurfaced and I feel like people have really taken to that and like I've really gone against Cole and they're really holding on to like oh I haven't seen this I don't know about this I had other glam bot news what was your glam bot news that Joseph Khan was the inventor of the gland buy which is so insane and it's like how did Cole become the grandfather of the glambot and that's what everyone was saying they're like how is he like the end all be out of the glambot of Joseph con invented it yes and then what happened with Joseph con why was he just like well I guess he got too busy but then it's like he just Cole just got to inherit this or how did he get it?
Starting point is 01:50:53 Uh-huh. I have so many questions. I have so many questions too. And then everyone has really been bringing up these emails from 2019 of the woman who tried to book the glam bot for her wedding and I get later, so the day we filmed a topic, so Monday, she
Starting point is 01:51:11 did an interview with People Magazine about the Glambot debacle and then now people are on the beach. People's the new TMZ they're like we're going to find everybody email and go up and call. They got an exclusive interview with her name is Inka and a Mashan and she did an exclusive interview with People magazine about the booking and the glam bar. She, and the gag is, she is very, very, very wealthy because she had a, her wedding was in
Starting point is 01:51:38 2019 and she lives in Dallas, Texas, but it was a multicultural three ceremony wedding. So she literally had like three extravagant ceremonies and one day, all different in all lavish. So she could have afforded the glam bars. It's giving Becca Bloom with the fireworks in Italy. Yeah. Like the gag is she could have afforded it. But like Cole kind of just went into it obviously through the email exchange kind of assuming that she was too broke. And also she's like a woman of color. Her icon like show her face. So people or her interpretation is like also like as a woman of color that's like extra offensive because people are going to assume like I can't afford things. So that was like another element to it too. And I was like, damn. What did she say in the interview? Was there anything? There's no like extra details to the exchange. Like pretty much email exchange is like what happened.
Starting point is 01:52:28 But she did give like a statement about how the whole thing like hurt her. And that's why like she's been posting about this since 2019. But just now it kind of blew up and got like millions of views on Twitter. But she said as a black woman, I am no stranger to people making assumptions about who I am or what I am capable of. But I think his response to me, his responses to me were exceptionally unprofessional and unkind. I was preparing for one of the best days of my life and to this day his response shocks me. That isn't how you speak to a potential client or people in general.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Hopefully my sharing this can be a learning experience for him and enable him to be better or at least a bit more kind. Which is tea, like especially 2019, like I said before, like the glam bot really I feel like got even bigger with like TikTok. I feel like it just kind of really made it even more mainstream because it kind of gave a place for it to live, you know. And I feel like Cole also started becoming more front facing. Yeah. With, like, his POV of the glam bought, like, kind of recently within the past few years, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Because he's, like, his own TikTok personality. Yeah. So I didn't even know he was, like, in control of the glam bar. I thought he was just, like, the face of. Like, he's just there. Like, you would be, like, ushering people on a red carpet for ET. Like, you're just there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:33 I think he was, like, the owner of it. Yeah. The logistics of glam bought are interesting. Because also, like, it's commissioned by E. Like, E owns it. But, like, it's also, like, Cole posted on his own social platforms, too. So I don't know, like, the logistics. of like what that contract is.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Because, yeah, like, E is the one who technically owns the actual glam bot footage. Cole will end up giving, like, his POV of setting it up and then end with the shot at the end. So he, like, kind of adds to it. That's the better part is the setup. The context. Yeah, yeah. So it is very interesting. I don't know how the logistics of that works.
Starting point is 01:54:12 But, yeah, everyone is on Cole's. And everyone's saying that J-Lo Karma, that J-L-Carmma is fair. Wait, why? Because everyone's like... But she was the asshole to him. Why is he getting the karma? And also, she, like, he was nicer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:27 But everyone was like, see what happens when he messed with J-lo, which is kind of funny to me. I think it's came up. And then... You know, like this, that woman, rightfully could be upset. But I also think, like, I don't know if that's karma for quite. He was being nice to the whole thing. Like, he's the one that got bad treatment from J-Lo. He's the one that tried a defender.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Like... You know, also that was, I'm not trying to defend him. I, like, I definitely see her part. No, like, it's like me going to Louis Vuitton back in the day. Like, people do not want to help you. Yeah. You know, can I see that bag? Like, you know, like, they can be that way.
Starting point is 01:55:00 It's annoying. But, like, you were kind of saying, too, it's like sometimes, I guess if they were talking social media, it's different you can see the person. But, yeah, when sometimes someone inquires, even for me, I don't even respond, obviously, like, myself, if I do an event, it's, like, through someone else. But, you know, someone's like, how much for you to sing happy birthday to me at my birthday? You know, it's like, you just don't respond. It's not because, like, anything.
Starting point is 01:55:20 It just feels, it feels weird anyways to have such a close, like, interaction because it's like, how do you tell somebody? Because the other thing is, you can tell someone a rate, and then they'll be like, that's too high. Who do you think you are? Like, so I just, I don't do it anymore, but maybe back then because it was just him, he didn't know how to, like, his responses were bad. If those were true, they are bad.
Starting point is 01:55:37 There's no excuse there, but people also just dog piling on him and be like, that's what you get for messing with J-Lo is also kind of crazy. Just be like, well. And the. Yeah. The J lovers working overtime because TMZ did capture Jennifer Lopez giving cash to a homeless man on Tuesday. And it's all on a video. I love the article because the article is like three sentences.
Starting point is 01:56:00 So I'm like, this is fierce. Literally, the Jenny from the Block singer was dressed to the nines and in full glam coming out of a business meeting in Los Angeles this afternoon. When a homeless man approached her on her way to her waiting Cadillac escalade asking for help, J-Lo seemed to ignore the man at first, walking right by him. but he was thrilled to see her and was over her saying he was going to tell everyone he saw a celeb the guy stuck around and waited outside jennifer's SUV and his patience paid off she rolled down the window and handed him a bill before driving off with a smile period that's the whole article i'm like okay work she looked happy she looked happy too i've seen homeless people he was like skipping her from her car it is it is so funny i mean again this is just me speculating i love just like in the
Starting point is 01:56:43 middle of a scandal because also TMZ is everywhere and of course it could very well just be a coincidence that they capture this because literally they have people with iPhones and every corner of Los Angeles ready to like record someone. Yes. It is just so funny that in the middle of this scandal her everyone calling her rude here's a five sentence article on TMZ about a good deed that she did. I love it. I live. Me as a public like me doing damage control is just like okay we got to get you out there. Actually Moses filming a paparazzi video of you doing a good deed and then like me sending it to TMZ. doing it. There's no coincidence.
Starting point is 01:57:15 There's no coincidence. Of course. And also full glam too. It's like full glam, full game. Let's do it. Like I got my full glam on today. I guess it's good unless he's an actor. If he's like a real.
Starting point is 01:57:28 True. Yeah, yeah. That'd be crazy if he was like also in on it and not really unhoused. Yeah, that is tea. Because if it's performative, whatever, someone who is down on their luck, you know, benefiting from it. So let's go. But if it's someone who is like.
Starting point is 01:57:43 just a paid actor. That'd be crazy. Although it is hard to make a living as an actor, so maybe even then, I don't know. Does he get to keep it though? She, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:50 She's asking for a back diabolical, but I doubt it. I think she can let go of a bill or two. I think J-Lo just needs to own her. Divanish. God, I wanted to be a great rebrand though. She just became like the nicest, friendliest person to everybody around.
Starting point is 01:58:05 She's just like inviting like everybody to be her friend. Because even was it the MacGall red carpet that someone thought she was like being rude when someone asked her like who made the dress or something. Oh yeah. She just said like the, designer and kept walking up the stairs. She'd need to just give a little more conversation maybe.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Yeah. She could, I guess maybe go full pedal to the metal in one direction. Like, Mariah Carey. Yes. We know she's a diva. We love her for it. We're like, yes, Mariah, like be fierce. Like, complain about the lighting.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Like, you know, we love that about her. Yeah. So I guess like, but then the Bronx documentary was like, just love like running to the bodega. My hair is so wild. They tried. So the relatability and not work. Let's just go full-blown.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Like, honestly, I don't want to talk to you, Cole. I'm just here to, like, look, fierce and keep it moving. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. I think trying to be like, look at her being so nice to this. It's like, I don't know if that's really. But it is cute, I guess.
Starting point is 01:58:57 I guess we love it for the entertainment value. We were sending it in the group chat early. Yeah, look at that. I love it. I love to PR. Because we don't have to send hot topics, but like when something is just so fierce. Yeah, fierce is the theme of today's episode, fierce is fierce. I mean, what can I say?
Starting point is 01:59:10 It is true. Yeah. Megan Trainers. had her third baby via surrogate. I, oh my gosh. Yeah, she just announced it. But I was kind of glad because she got so much backlash for it. And I was like kind of confused.
Starting point is 01:59:24 Gosh, the Megan Train or hate train is, no, pun intended. It's like actually so insane. She gets like a lot of hate. And I feel like she kind of not even in a shady way, like kind of just like lays low does nothing. You know what I mean? So like even when she was like touring and she was wearing like those wigs and stuff and people like, this is ridiculous. This doesn't look like her. And I'm just like, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Like people are kind of wild. Yeah. Like, I think some people, I mean, she's kind of been getting it since like back in the day, to be honest. Like, I think people always kind of found the like, shubab, shabab, shabab. Like, people kind of turned on it pretty quick and was like, oh, this is so cringy. Okay, it's one thing to be like the music's not good. Like, you know, she has some, she has some bops in the repertoire. Ironically, she wrote, I ain't your mama for J-Lo, and I do love that song.
Starting point is 02:00:05 And I love that J-Lo is singing on it, but you can hear Megan loud and proud on that track. I ain't your mama. Oh, oh, I ain't your mama. I love. I do a dance video. did that back in 2016. 10 years ago. I'll tell you, that Megan Trainor,
Starting point is 02:00:17 a pen hates to see her coming because she will write some catchy little lyrics. It is funny because she is so talented as like a songwriter because she has written like amazing songs. But like, and not hate me. There's a reason she does this. All her songs sound the same.
Starting point is 02:00:29 So it's like weird. I guess that is just her signature style. I mean, and also someone brought this up about Bruno. I mean, people are being mean about it. But when Bruno Mars was like really skinny single the other day, everyone's like, well, all of his songs kind of do sound the same.
Starting point is 02:00:42 And I'm like, well, and no one. never says anything bad about like a Bruno Marr song or whatever so I'm like yeah that's true. Ed Shearing kind of always sounds you know like Ed Shearing on the song that's true you know so yeah yeah you're right she's in her lane she likes her little doo-wop and work right right right right right spirit what's that one I can have my Gucci on Gucci on I can wear my Louis Vitton even with nothing on I made you look I remember she did that Acapella with like all the TikTokers It was like, what's her name?
Starting point is 02:01:15 God, the one that used to do the catering story times. You expect me to know a TikTokers name. I'm like, do you remember her? Which one? She had like curly hair and she was like a caterer and she'd always sell storytimes and she put like emojis on the screen. Oh yeah. What's her name like Eloise or something?
Starting point is 02:01:30 And she can't disappear. Yeah, because she did the one with Miss Rachel. Yes, Elise Myers. She was like singing on there randomly and it was like one of the guy, the, the God, I forget his name. I know Pentononic's and I'm so sorry. I get on the name. It's not Mitch.
Starting point is 02:01:41 It's not Kevin. one of the tonics I can't see. Scar is God. I know him too. Like I don't know him but like it doesn't matter. Anyways,
Starting point is 02:01:49 Chris Olson was on there and they were all singing like Acapola. Do you not know this with her? No, I remember that. You remember the video? Oh, Scott.
Starting point is 02:01:57 Like he's like the main one. Why did I forget that? And they were all just like harmonizing with Megatrain. Anyways. It is funny because they do sound like they're written for TikTok like I want this to go viral. Is he?
Starting point is 02:02:06 Yeah. Which they end up doing. That's true. Mission accomplished. Yeah. So. She's, yeah. I don't know she had a hate dream.
Starting point is 02:02:14 I was that she was like really popular and I just noticed it like in the past like year. Okay. Okay. I mean, I feel sorry for her. This, my psychoanalysis is I think she gets a lot of. I mean, now because she's like lost a lot of waste when she's skinny. I think before she's not like the traditionally super hot like bombshell pop girl.
Starting point is 02:02:34 And there is always going to be like that people are always going to be harder despite everyone thinking that they're super woke. They're still going to be that internalized misogyny of like she doesn't. fit the like archetype of a pop girl like an Ariana um like a cat's eye like these hot like sexy um desirable yeah like model ass because even if you're not like super hot like Taylor I don't know if she's like the super hot like where she caters like men but she's still like Barbie got kind of and then you have like a Charlie XX who's like edgy and she's like hot and sexy and Megan kind of like is somewhere in the middle so I think people are going to be always harder on her in general that's my woke takeaway but
Starting point is 02:03:11 people were really she was getting a lot of backlash and people were mad at her for having a baby via surrogate which I thought was like so wild what part of the internet is it is your fans is it like right wing people like who's upset about it I think it to be honest I think it is mostly like left-leaning
Starting point is 02:03:28 voices on Twitter is where I saw it the most and also like on Reddit and stuff but it kind of got turned into like a classism thing like oh here's this rich woman who's like using another woman's using another woman's uterus for her game. Oh, geez. Oh, my God. People are, like, ruthless. People are so, like, that, yeah, that's
Starting point is 02:03:49 I hate the internet. Like, when people have babies, they're so critical. We, I remember there's like, Shane and Rhineland when they, like, held the babies to and everything. Yes, okay. Get out off the bed. Like, what do you mean? That's their babies. She got that, too. Because she, like, her announcement was, like, her, like, skin to skin contact with her baby. And, uh, there were so many comments of people being, like, um, that why does she have a surrogate give birth and then stage it? Like, she gave birth. Like, she gave birth. herself naked and crying as if she birded that baby herself renting another woman's womb is an effing disgrace that's crazy that's not why she's crying the concept of a witch woman buying a poor
Starting point is 02:04:20 woman's womb then holding the baby in her arms and crying as if she gave birth uh herself nobody can convince me that this isn't diabolical i have no respect for this this is crazy it is wild that's why she's crying that's not why she's skinned skin that's not just only the baby crazy to assume classes because i you know syria like to crazy i would do it in a heartbeat for or something. Like, I would do it in a heartbeat. Like, if I was able to, like, give birth and I was, like, healthy and, like, young, and I would be doing it for everybody. Like, everybody, you know, like, that's such a weird assumption. I hate that. Like, it is her baby. It's anyone's baby. Like, if you are, if, it's, it's your baby. Like, I don't, I don't know why people care. Like,
Starting point is 02:05:00 obviously, it's not, like, it's not, it's not hands to me. It wasn't being, someone's being forced. Like, everyone's doing this consensually, willingly. People want to be, like, people want to surrogates like it's it's so so bizarre so weird and like right when someone has a baby is so crazy like new parents it's like god people are so mean people are assholes because i didn't see a lot of gay couples get the hate too when they're like holding their baby and stuff and people go like wow you took it from the mother it's like that's not her baby yeah it's so it is really odd to be because especially like you would think people would be really sympathetic about like women who like want another child but like biologically physically like I think Megan
Starting point is 02:05:40 talked about like her last birth, like, uh, where she was struggling with like, uh, diabetes and stuff, right? Like, yeah. Yeah. It's also super dangerous. She had C-sections both times and it's like so dangerous because that's what can kill you is if you have like a third C-section. They say three is like the max, but even then it's like really scary because it's so thin
Starting point is 02:05:58 and fragile down there and your like uterus could like erupt basically. It could like rupture. So it's like really dangerous to have multiple C-sections. I kind of think it's people who just like have, are not moms. You know what I mean? Oh, 100%. I'll 100% because anyone who's doesn't matter if you're girls or guys,
Starting point is 02:06:13 straight, gay, whatever. It's just like, anyone who, like, has struggled having, like, a child. Like, that's, like, the most beautiful thing, right? And, like, everybody wants to be a part of it. Sargates want to be a part of it. And egg donors want to be part of it. Like, there's a reason.
Starting point is 02:06:23 It's not, and most of the time, too, surrogates usually are not carrying, like, it's usually another, it's like, it's not biologically theirs either. I think a lot of people are like... Like their eggs. Their eggs. Usually, it's like, especially, like, a gay couple, right?
Starting point is 02:06:37 I don't know what Megan did. I don't know, it doesn't matter, but like, you know, if you're taking, if you are getting a surrogate, you're usually taking someone else's egg, you know what I mean? And so it's like, it's not also her. Some people are like, you just took the baby from her. So it's just a very odd way to be. Obviously, the skin to skin, you can do it with a parent, you can do it with dad, whatever. It's just like, it's that bonding. You just want to be close to the baby.
Starting point is 02:06:57 It has nothing to do with, like, pretending you gave birth to it or something. And Megan was the opposite of pretending to get birth to anything. She's like, our beautiful surrogate. Like, she's like not hiding. You shouldn't have to. I think it is crazy to like. I think Chloe had talked about it too. She wanted to talk about the Tristan getting another girl pregnant because she thought the surrogate was going to get harassed.
Starting point is 02:07:13 And it's like, people just, why do people care? And to like be so crazy to also be like, oh, rich to the poor. It's like, you don't know that Sarah gets life. Like that's the weirdest assumption to make. It's very odd. I don't know. People, I hate that so much. I know.
Starting point is 02:07:29 I feel like people really just want to be. I get like the resentment towards people who are like, you know, upper class, like wealthy and have like, more resources and stuff. And yes, surrogacy is very, like, very, very, very expensive.
Starting point is 02:07:43 So I get, like, that resentment, but I don't, I think, like, attacking someone who is, like,
Starting point is 02:07:48 welcoming the baby. And also, like, not, she's not like, she's not like, being braggadocious or, like, going about it,
Starting point is 02:07:54 like, in a malicious way. She's just, like, announcing, it's like this best thing you could possibly announce. Like, you know, a new baby,
Starting point is 02:08:00 like welcoming life. Just so excited. But people will always judge everything. Everything. I remember my first baby with Mal, when I had Malbu, everyone was just like judging me for having a C-section.
Starting point is 02:08:10 I said something in my birth video that they gave you fat before you have a C-section. And I remember so many people like, wow, she's using, she's taking drugs again. I'm like, this is like, people will just like never ever be happy if you take the epidural, if you don't take the up, like people are just always, always going to be pissed about something. You know what? Honestly, like not running for Congress, but truly if I was and maybe I will one day, it is like, it should be part of like health insurance to like have a surrogacy and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:33 They're trying to, right? Yeah, some. Infertility. Companies do have like cover like surrogacy and stuff. Not all though. It should be more. I feel like because I get it too.
Starting point is 02:08:45 Like it is annoying to like if you can't afford it and stuff like that. It is annoying. I mean that should be dealt with darkly boss. I don't think you need like attacks on it for it. And skin is like a scientific like thing where it helps like regulate the baby's temperature. The chemicals that like it brings like in the baby's body. helps create that bond. So it's like, it's like a backed, a scientifically backed thing for like any parent,
Starting point is 02:09:12 dad, mom. Yeah. So even biologically, if it's like not yours, like it still is a bonding thing to have like skin to skin. It just feel like you said regulate heartbeats and like all of it. Like it's just people are so, people are so weird with that. People hate that so much when people like hold their own babies like you're, you're weird.
Starting point is 02:09:29 Like if anything, I wish I could have done that. Like after like the C-section, they took the take the baby right away. I can't, like, do it. So, like, it's, like, I don't know, people. I was shook because I guess she kept it private, right? It is, like, a thing now where people don't announce their baby still there here. Kind of like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:44 It could never be me because, you know, I love to, like, detail everything. But I like that. It is kind of chic. Here's the baby. Paris did that. I had never seen. You know, I was invited to the Paris premiere last night. I should have gone.
Starting point is 02:09:54 I saw the DM from Paris Hilton, like, too late. But I saw, like, Tanna going. I saw all these people going, and I was like, I think Tar yummy went, Demi Lovato. And I had an invite from her in my DM. I didn't check it in time. I would have loved to have gone to that. But I saw a clip of her. It must be old because her kids are like my kid's age.
Starting point is 02:10:12 But she didn't even tell her mom. She's like, here's your grandson. Did you ever see that clip? No. It's from her documentary. I guess she has a couple documentaries a while ago. And she said, wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:10:20 She goes, wait here, mom. And then she comes back with her baby and just shows. And the mom's like, whose baby is that? She's mine. That is fierce. That's fierce. I love that. That's kind of cool to just show up with.
Starting point is 02:10:30 You know, she has, there's a Dakota and Elle Fanning are doing a series. of Paris. I think they're playing Paris and Nicky Hilton. Like a mini series. I'm so excited for it. I love Dakota and Al Fanning. So,
Starting point is 02:10:42 and they don't, they make usually, like, more, like, artistic stuff or, like, more dramatic stuff. So I'm excited for,
Starting point is 02:10:49 like, them to do something like really girly pop. Oh, I feel like Brian Murphy should direct it. Is it like a scandal one or is it just, like,
Starting point is 02:10:56 cutesy? I think it's like, it's probably going to be some drama, some drama to it I imagine, but I think if they're playing, like, air as it, especially if they're doing
Starting point is 02:11:04 like Y2 K Which I think, because they're, I feel like around the age of like it, like the peak Paris and Nikki, right? Like, how old is Dakota? I feel like, I feel like she's my age. No. No. Dakota Vanity's, really? Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:15 She's 30. So. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, that may be right. And Al's even is younger.
Starting point is 02:11:21 Yeah, that's 27. Yeah, that seems like around the ages. Yeah. Oh, I'm excited for that. Me too. I don't know. Sarah good see everyone. I was just like, also like people have to have, like, health problems and it's big dangerous for people to carry babies.
Starting point is 02:11:33 And they can't carry babies. and there are people who are like really awesome at just carrying babies. Like, you know, there's people who like love pregnancy who can deliver babies, no problem. Like that would be me a thousand percent. Like I love being pregnant. And if I had easy deliveries and I was healthier, I'd be doing surrogacy all day long. I'd be like carrying everyone's babies. So I'm going to just chill out, honestly.
Starting point is 02:11:55 She looked great. Congratulations. It's a girl, right? What is it, Mikey Moon? Yes. I love the name. It's really, really cute. Yeah, I'm really excited for her.
Starting point is 02:12:05 She seems like a good mom. She wrote a parenting book, I think. Mm-hmm. And yeah, her other two kids are the cutest ever. So cute. So cute. I know. It is crazy, like, once you lose weight.
Starting point is 02:12:13 Because I guess Lizzo kind of got the same treatment too, right? When she was bigger, people like championed her. And then she lost weight. And everyone's like, you. Yeah. People are harder on her. So she gets it both. You usually get it both ways.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Actually, like people hate you fat. Then they hate you skinny. I don't know. She kind of like me fat. The fat are I get, the nicer people. are to me like oh you know it's
Starting point is 02:12:37 kidding like yeah I get it people like oh she's fat that's cute but when you're skinny and fierce like no yeah when you're a threat
Starting point is 02:12:47 I think Nikki Glazer talked about that how she's like all the skinny people he knows that because they don't want all the fatties to be skinny
Starting point is 02:12:51 yeah T they don't want it to be too accessible yeah yeah because it is yeah everybody's skinny
Starting point is 02:12:56 now um I was okay we talked about the Beckham drama on Patreon but there have been some updates
Starting point is 02:13:02 and I love this one because it involves someone from the Trish Cinematic Universe from back in the day. What? Justin Anderson who you went to for a... Deepi Hugh. Yeah, Deepi Hugh. He's done your hair a few times.
Starting point is 02:13:15 Kristen Cavalier. Yes, we clock it. We have photos together. He was so handsome. Yes. I mean my gay man. I just was really in love with him for a minute. And T. also the Oscar Cinematic Universe because he was, I was friends with his partner, Austin Rose.
Starting point is 02:13:28 Yes. Yes. That was my former sister. Yeah, Austin Rhodes. Is that the one that you've had a falling out with or the other one? The Aaron Rose was the one I was like best friends with. So yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 02:13:39 But he came out to back the Beckham family. Wow. And he talked about his bad experience with Nicola Peltz. Ah, not him getting in the drama at all. Which if anyone, like he's not afraid of, you know, stirring the pause. So this kind of makes sense. Because he's like retired, like living not in California, just living his like best rich life. I think there's some point where people just don't care.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Yeah. Like, I'm just going to, it would be me if I, like, won the lottery, be like, I'm just going to chime in. He has, like, products now. And, like, he, I think he's still, he's still Kristen, I think, right? Does he just do her hair? I think he's, like, wealthy from something. Like, he just gives the vibes that he's just, like, never working and just living.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Yeah. Because he, like, for context, was doing everyone's hair, like, Maga Robbie, Jennifer Aniston, Miley Cyrus. Yes, like, he was the celebrity colorist, right? Yes, he was amazing. But he spoke out about how he worked out. he worked with Nicola back in 2014 during a press tour
Starting point is 02:14:35 and he commented on an Instagram post by Best of Bravo that was like recapping the drama and said Brooklyn's wife was one of the worst celebs, in quotes, I've ever worked with. It's her. She's a bad apple. Everyone knows how close to Beckham family really is.
Starting point is 02:14:54 And then he, once that got pickup, he doubled down because then he went to his Instagram story and he was like, hold on, I actually have more to say. He said, I've worked with her. Not nice. Not nice. I can stay with my full chest, not good energy. Bad news bears.
Starting point is 02:15:08 And then, yeah, based on how many wedding planners she went through, I think she's the issue. I mean, Google her. Google her. Go into the Reddick, go into the dark corners of Reddit and read it a little bit about her. Not a good person. Spooky energy. Very spooky energy. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:15:22 I don't even feel bad saying that because when someone's just so not nice, it always comes out. You can't hide it. So, yeah, I do feel really bad for the Beckham family. I do. which that is why that's very condemning which i have no i have no really i have no skin in the race really like i i'm not that invested i've heard bad things about the peltz family yeah the beckham family i know really nothing about they seem just very rich and they're always rich this is like rich people problems i'm like over you know what i mean i'm like there's just like a bunch
Starting point is 02:15:52 of just rich people they all seem a little shady everyone the beckoms he doesn't seem wonderful she doesn't seem wonderful. I guess the boy seems okay. I know nothing bad about him. Nicola, I guess we're hearing. I trust Justin. But I do trust Justin. I mean, he's always messy.
Starting point is 02:16:06 He's always messy. Obviously, can be biased. Maybe, I don't know. Because I remember he did Jamie Lynn, Spears, and he's a big Britney stand too. And he's, like, defending Jamie Lynn. I was like, why? Why?
Starting point is 02:16:16 You know what I mean? But your experience? Your experience is supposed. I kind of think, like, it's kind of tea, though, because he had that personal connection with Jamie Lynn, so he defended her. That's what I'm saying. There's bias.
Starting point is 02:16:25 Yeah. But he had that personal, like, I feel like he would probably be more inclined if you have personal experience with someone. Usually people are very nice to the hairstylist because like a hairstylist is like the keys to the castle. Like they can F you up. They can make you look amazing. It can make it terrible.
Starting point is 02:16:39 Yeah, that's true. So if you're mean to you're a hairstylist, then damn, you really do not give a F. Yeah, I believe it. I do think it's like so truthful on this. But again, I think all these people are shady, messy. This is like one where it's just like rich people problems. And it's like, yeah, it's one thing to like, yeah, I have no care in all of them. Are those photos real?
Starting point is 02:16:58 The ones of her like flipping in front of him. This was my hot topic as well. Oh. Oh. You. I literally had to send this to Jimmy separately off the group test. What was it? Because Trisha tweeted today, let me get the direct.
Starting point is 02:17:09 I put this in my notes with the link because I was that gagged by it. I'm so confused. I was like, all these photos show up. But I'm like, I think these are real. Okay. So. Of the mom's dancing?
Starting point is 02:17:20 Yeah. Trisha tweeted, I'm truly confused if these are real or not question mark. Like they don't look like AI, eye emoji. They don't. Cut to the photos. It's posh spice, breakdancing on her head in front of Nicola Peltz and Brooklyn Beckham smiling for the camera. Her with her doing a back bend, her doing a high kick splits in the air. And Trisha was confused if it was real life.
Starting point is 02:17:42 And meanwhile, Nicola and Brooklyn just posing as if nothing's happening. Posh looking directly down the barrel of the camera doing a splits midair. And Trisha Kay Pater's had a question, is this real? something that you that miraculously just came out after Brooklyn Beckham made his statements and it became a meme about Victoria Beckham dancing.
Starting point is 02:18:04 But she was wearing that dress at the wedding. So I'm just so confused how they were able to get these. I've you never seen I mean I guess the person who thought the monk, the TikTok monk was an AI at first. Oh he does. Have you seen it? He looks so have you seen it? That one is crazy real.
Starting point is 02:18:21 That one, because usually you can tell AI like it's usually like Hi, I'm John William Gacy. Most people can. Huh? Most people can. We need a new segment. Real or?
Starting point is 02:18:30 Yeah. This one is crazy, though. This one looks so real. Well, you also did think those cherry blossom floors like two years ago. That got me. That got me. I know. I still think those are real.
Starting point is 02:18:39 Those ones look so good. But there is like everyone saying there is footage of her dancing at the wedding. No. No. There's no footage. There have been wedding guests that came forward to over the years to kind of confirm the testimonial of her dancing crazy with Brooklyn Beckham. So this is not it.
Starting point is 02:18:58 These photos? Not one. Okay, the one on her face looks kind of crazy. The one where she's literally on her head break dancing looked little crazy. There's one where she's like in the air. And that to me looks like something I would do at a wedding or something. You know what I mean? Like that looks like.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Right. In front of a married couple. Just doing a jump splits in the air. I get to love it. You want my wedding. Literally all my wedding books, I just want you dance. I'm seeing in the... Oh, I would love.
Starting point is 02:19:24 I'm wearing that. I'll wear that dress too. After I officiated, I'll do a little jump in here. Fierce is fierce. But I was like, I literally sent that to Jimmy separately. I almost send it to you. But then I think I just did it this morning. I was like, whatever.
Starting point is 02:19:35 I'll just put it on Twitter and said... I really am like, Twitter. I get a nothing burger on Twitter. I'm really just like... Like, I get like thousand likes or views or something. I love it though, because you're doing it for the love of the game. And I think that's what makes it better. But at a certain point, not that it's like,
Starting point is 02:19:50 who am I even talking to? No, me, because I see all your tweets. And then I text him to Jimmy and I'm like, hey, look at this. One, there's like two comments maybe I'd read each of my tweets. It really is dead over there. Damn. For me anyways, I guess I'm on not any side of Twitter. Oh, that's too funny.
Starting point is 02:20:03 I get on there once in a while, once every few days. I'm like, okay, I'll leave on a little tweets or stuff. Yeah, you get in a little tweet storm and then you leave for like two weeks. Yeah. It's just not my team. Yeah. That's fair. But it has become a whole meme about Victoria Beckham's inappropriate dance with Brooklyn
Starting point is 02:20:20 Beckham at his wedding. Like there was one of a Joja Sewa dancing and someone said that was Victoria back on. Yeah. Yeah. I love all the memes. And who else loved the memes was Cruz Beckham because Cruz Beckham was caught liking all these like memes about his mom dancing at the wedding. I love that.
Starting point is 02:20:38 On Twitter? On Instagram. It would be like liked by Cruz Beckham. I love that. Because he also young to know like people see the likes. You know what I mean he knows. I feel like he knows but just the gaffes because he's also the one brother that has like been very vocal. about like Brooklyn.
Starting point is 02:20:52 He's very much on his parent's side and has like shaded Brooklyn like publicly on Instagram. So he kind of de-gaffed. Yeah. Like he's going back and forth with them a few times.
Starting point is 02:20:59 He's the one that announced a couple weeks ago like my parents didn't unfollow them. We woke up and we were blocked. Like he wrote that on his Instagram story. Oh, he's in defense of the parents. Yes. He's like messy boots. But liking the memes.
Starting point is 02:21:09 Yeah. I think he probably just thinks it's funny which they are funny. So like. Yeah. Sometimes I'm gonna laugh at it. Yeah. That is so.
Starting point is 02:21:18 Also too, they probably have like do they get inheritances? Maybe you're like, you know what I mean? Maybe what's it being. Great question. They must, right? Do they get a trust?
Starting point is 02:21:25 Do you know trust from babies? Do you think the trust when the parents are alive or when they're passed? Great question. I don't know. Because it's like always confusing to me. I'm sure they must get a chunk as they are growing up like into adulthood, right? You would think. I guess because I was like, oh, that's a trust fund baby.
Starting point is 02:21:38 But it's like, do they have the money? Do they have access to? They must have access to. Yeah, that means they have access to the trust. Did you know someone that? Maybe we can't tell a story. That was like waited until they were like, they were like, they were like, they were They had to wait till they were like, oh, I'm waiting to my parents pass to get the money.
Starting point is 02:21:51 And then they were like 70 when their parents passed. Yeah, they were really. So how did they not get the trusts? They got it when they were really old. Oh, so they had to wait until the parents to pass. There's different ways people set it up. But yeah, usually when they talk about trust fund kids, there are people that have access to the money, to the trust. Some people have to wait until the parents pass away because in this case, the parent didn't want to give them money anymore because they were not working.
Starting point is 02:22:17 not doing anything. They're like, so basically when the parent passes away, they get all this stuff. That's so crazy. So then just have someone just like waiting for you to like pass away. Even not meanly, just logically. They just don't want to work. They're like crazy. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:22:37 Well, I got one. What's our hot one? Tanna and the halter top. Oh. That's what I got. What do you got? My week of just Tanna and all the hot. I know literally.
Starting point is 02:22:49 That's it. You too. I love that that's the hottest topic for you this week. To be out. I was like, oh, it's just whatever. Oh, I think it's so fierce. I think it's so fierce. I saw, right, same.
Starting point is 02:23:00 I think the one we posted today of Not Loveline was her, before she posted herself in the halter top was her just being like, this was in my dress, but I don't want to talk about it anymore. And then I saw the next day I was like that. She slept on it. She slept on it. It was like, actually, well, yes. Two nights she slept on it.
Starting point is 02:23:16 Because she's like, this was yesterday, and I was like, you know what? I drafted it and I was so happy I did because, you know, I don't want to be messy. I was like, love that great. Sometimes you sleep on it and you're like, actually, yes. I do feel, I want to do this. I do. I do want to stir the pot. Yeah, I've been there too.
Starting point is 02:23:30 I slept on it and chose violence when I woke up. Because three days ago when we filmed that, I guess it was Sunday, we filmed his Wednesday. Yeah, three days ago. She didn't have, to my knowledge, the halter tops. I'm like, how did she get the halter top so quickly? Like, I feel like she would have told me, oh, I found it. Yeah. She would not have been able to like keep that.
Starting point is 02:23:47 No, she always helps me stuff. I wonder if she had to ask a nurse in the valley for that halter top. She DMed somebody. Like how did she know what it looked like? Do we know? How did she know what it looked like? How did she know what's right one? I saw photos of the halter top like as that was first investigating.
Starting point is 02:24:01 So Tara's world must have posted at some point in the, in the, you know, fire store. Got it. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Because everyone was commenting, girl, all this for this halter top. Like it wasn't that iconic or anything. So it was the holter top.
Starting point is 02:24:13 I will give it to Tar's world. It is a cute halter top. and I could see it for New Year's. I could. Maybe if you're a bridesmaid in 2016. Like, what do you mean? That's chopped in Uncle A.S. Like, that is crazy.
Starting point is 02:24:28 There was no cook in the kitchen. Awful. Ugly. Oh, my God. That is so funny. You think it's that ugly? It's awful ill-fitting. It was horrible on anyone.
Starting point is 02:24:41 Tana's like a literal model with like the best body ever. That is so funny. It was just like, That's awful. I'm dead. Like. Did she say it's going to end up in the trash after this?
Starting point is 02:24:53 Yeah, Tanna, I think it was like, I don't want to. And she did caption it. It wasn't even hard to find. So like, how did she? She isn't her thrifting era. She will not. She does not purchase anything new. She does everything depop.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Every time I see her in something, girls next level, whatever she's wearing in the podcast, Deepop, Deepop, Deepop. She's a Deepop queen. Oh, my God. Okay, work. Because, okay, she commented on her. own TikTok. I felt like this was a healthier exercise for me than going on a 45-minute tangent about how my opinion is not the same as the public's and why that sentiment proved my point entirely.
Starting point is 02:25:24 Fear statement. And then Brooke right underneath. I mean, now that I'm looking at it is a great top. That's crazy. That's crazy. No, no one thinks this. No. No. Tarot does. No. It's no. No. Oh my God. That is just so fierce. I mean, God. That's the title. Like, fierce is fierce. That is so good. It's so good. It was so good that she found. I thought, had I didn't want to look like I could have found it too.
Starting point is 02:25:51 Like, it is easy to find. You know what? I can find anything. Like, you would have reversed image searched that and found it and had it in time like three hours before the ball. Yes. You would have had that in a quickness. You can get anything so fast. So I do love.
Starting point is 02:26:07 And if you couldn't find it, you would have had a seamstress really quick. You would have Eddie. He's online. Easily halter top, put a couple pearls on it. A beau, call it a day. Had I seen it earlier, I would have done it for today. I would have had it for a day. And if I had my big reduction.
Starting point is 02:26:22 Yeah, in pink. Maybe I will. If it wasn't ugly, I would, for sure. I live. But is it Tara or Tara's? I think it's Tara's World. Tara's world. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:33 You always go for Tara every time there's a Tara. I do know A Tara. Oh, okay. Who hates the word tar, but then when I saw Tara yummy the other day, I was like, I could want her tear because, anyways, very confusing. Then she said she did find one, but it was only an, extra large. Oh.
Starting point is 02:26:47 Did you see that? No. Oh, you don't. This is the whole drama of it all. Then, because it was subtle shade at Tanna is what people thought. They were like, she goes, yeah, I found it. But I mean, it was only an X-L. So, kind of insinuating that hers was an X-L.
Starting point is 02:26:59 So Tanna responded. I was like, this is a medium and it was big. It does. Like, it's kind of swallowing Tana up in this. And it's a medium. And I was just like, so that everybody was just once again being like to Tar's world. Like, what? Like, what are you?
Starting point is 02:27:15 Sometimes you just got to. wave the white flag. And again, say, Fierce is fierce. You ate me up. Weirdly, Daniel prayed up with Connor when Daniel's just like,
Starting point is 02:27:25 you know what, Connor, you ate with that. Like, you got to just be like, you know what, yuck. Of course.
Starting point is 02:27:29 You cook's, you cook, that's a good one. And frankly so. I left no crumbs. Because it was funny. It was good. It was like a cute ending
Starting point is 02:27:37 with all this drama. It was wonderful. And then in the comments, Tanna's literally like, because Tara commented and then shake, and then shake, you can have it for real. Like,
Starting point is 02:27:45 why, you know, like have the halter. And I want to see your habit. It was, it's a mess. But I do love Haltergate. I love Haltergate was the beginning of this year because it was just so unsirious. Yes. And everyone, besides Taras World, everyone was on the same.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Everyone in the world minus one was, you know, agreed. I need Tara's World to come clean. I want her to do a full sit-down interview with me, 20-20, Barbara Walter style and be like, girl, where's the lie detector guy? I get the lie detector test in here. We know him. We can get him in here.
Starting point is 02:28:14 I need to know. because there's just, you know, I think she was behind it all, in my opinion. It has to be. Because, like, also she's taking it, like, too lightly. You don't know what I mean? Like, it has to be. It had to be all made up. Which, by the way, genius.
Starting point is 02:28:26 If it was, that was great. Yeah. If made up, it is, she's the smartest woman in the world because, like, this really captured the zeitgeist. Yes. In a wonderful way. In the realm. Because even, like, even in her response to Tanna, she was like, I'm still mad at her.
Starting point is 02:28:44 But you can tell her like in Jess. So I'm like, I feel like she just did the whole thing was a troll. Yeah. And I hope so for her sake. And I think it was. Otherwise, she's the worst person ever. But I think it was a troll.
Starting point is 02:28:53 And I think she was just being cutesy. And in that case, I can respect. I respect it. Fierce is fierce. That's Oscar's merch. That's the theme. That's the theme of today. Well, you guys, let us know what you think on Haltergate.
Starting point is 02:29:08 We love you so much. I hope you have the best weekend ever. Send love, not hate. to everybody because the world needs more love, sweet love. I love you guys. Check out Harry Styles' new single out now. Oh, and check out tickets for Netflix. It's a joke comedy festival.
Starting point is 02:29:25 And check out IHeard Awards. Make sure you press your votes. IHard Awards. All that. Voter die. Vote or die? Yeah. We bring those shirts back. But didn't Piedi start all that? That's a whole other thing. I thought it was Paris Hilton. I think he was... I think Piedi in there. Oh, God. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:40 Well, let's just attribute it to Paris. Yeah. Paris always. Paris forever, Paris for president. Love you guys. We'll see you the next one. Bye.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.