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Episode Date: March 20, 2026

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She's like, I never been able to enjoy, like, any of these premieres because something always comes out every time it's like the premiere week, blah, blah, blah. Well, girl. Jeff, you're the one that commented and post, like, what? Also, like, the channel we once knew is gone. Thank God. Do you know what I mean? Because now she's inspiring Jules LeBron to get sober.

She's sober? She's happy in a relationship, a stable relationship. Well, that's up. You should listen to the history album. Do you don't know any songs from it? No. Where were you? Oh, and welcome to the Just Trish podcast.

I'm saying it's the weekend for everybody. I think it's the weekend for everybody. I declare Fridays are no workday. So Thursday, it's your weekend. So have a great weekend. Welcome to Just Trish. So much exciting stuff happening in the world. And I have so much to talk about.

And I'm super excited about everything. And about life, honestly. I'm excited about life. I'm sad St. Patrick's Day over. As you can see, we saw the St. Patrick's Day because of decor. We are shooting this after St. Patrick's Day. but the decor is still here. The lucky is everywhere.

And I'm not mad at it. Is that director? I just feel like this week is the send. Yeah. extending it. It's the week. This is the spirit of the week. Happy St. Patrick's Day to all who celebrate you guys.

I think this is the last couple days you can vote for the Aheart Radio Award. I think it's closed. Next week is the big week. See if we win. I don't know if mine is going to even air. I did find out yesterday filming Not Loveline that Tana Mojo was nominated for an I Heart Radio Award in 2015

and she said it never aired. She did go but it didn't air and she didn't win. She lost to someone named Abigail Moe or Asmo Mo or something. What was she nominated for? Just like social creator of the year. In 2015, oh, 2019. That really was her year, right?

She did win creator of the year at Streamies. Yep. So she got nominated again and lost to another creator. But yeah, she was, but she said it in an air, the award. So I don't know mine will. She showed up. Yeah.

She told me the outfit she wore. I didn't see it, but she was talking about the outfit she wore. I should have, you know, she was, you know, she was really making the rounds in 2019. And, you know. Couldn't keep her off a carpet. Yeah. She like, really, it's real. And the fact that she won, created the year against like Mr. Beasantle.

It is crazy, David, like, really slayed. And so it's not really, it doesn't matter if you win or lose, really. Like, it doesn't matter if you win or lose. I would like to win. I would love to win. I need an award. I need an award. I really, really want it more than anything.

So please vote. This is it. This is the last day that I'll be begging. Also, I will be in Palm Desert, not Palm Springs. I'll be in Palm Desert May 9th at the Fantasy Springs Casino. Me and a piano. I think Jeremy's going to do vocals for me, background vocals. And Netflix is a joke.

May 5th. So check it out. It's going to be really fun. And I'm just excited to be here. How about you? come to me at a very hateful time in my life because... What happened? You were so positive the last time.

Oh, well, that's gone because of you, really, and also you, viewer slash listener. Because, yes, I finally started secret lives and women wives and I can't even hold on to it. I cannot stand you. Jordan, I think his name is. I cannot stand you, Jordan. Which one's Jordan? I know him, but I just don't know the names. The founder of Dad Talk, quote unquote.

The leader of Dad Talk. That alone, the leader of Dad Talk. Like, which one can be married to? Jesse. I literally, okay. I love that you know the names. I literally don't know any of the other Mormon-Nem-wise names. Can I tell you?

First of all, I have converted my whole 90-day fiancee group text, which is me, Darian, and like his two friends from college. I've converted them into secret lives and Mormon-wise. Mind you, I hadn't even watched the show.

I just was relaying all your information and I was so worked up over it. And I sold them on it. They're like, okay, we're going to be seated. And I'm like, okay, work. I need you guys to be really locked in.

And like, we have a lot to watch over the weekend. Like, we need to be caught up. And then I made Daryan watch it with me. Oh, you started watching. Yes. Oh, okay. Season four, episode one.

That's all I've seen so far. And that's all I, and I've already worked up. That already worked me up. And I know this is like stale tea already because it's kind of been out for a minute. Last is the week. Oh, did they drop all at once the whole season? Did they not? I don't know.

Oh, I thought it was all done. It is all done. But I didn't know if they did it weekly or a binge. I think it's all out. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You guys. I am actually mad. No one else has told me about this. Did you watch the first episode? Yes, yes. I did watch the first episode.

Yeah, I watched the first like four or whatever's out. I am so like worked up. I was literally I need to get like a fitness ring, like the aura ring to see my stress levels because I watched it before bed. And I was like this would be night. I was already kind of sleepy. It was 9 p.m.

I'm like going to watch this. Go to bed at 10. I was so irate watching it. Like stress levels were peaking. I was cortisol maxing. I was mad knapsing. I was so upset at this man. And I don't know if you gave me the preconceived notions,

but I also didn't know George. Like, I only really knew Dakota a little bit and what's her, Jen's husband. Zach, I know. We forget it, but Zach, yes. So seeing this man, the Scott Dissig want to be. I was like, what the, I cannot. What was the triggering part? The triggering part was the sippancy,

and we have three little infants celebrating the coming into the world. they're about to release these butterflies that are trapped in a box, suffocating. And like, we got TikTok on the clock. These butterflies are going to pass away if we don't free them. And we have, like, three-year-old, four-year-old, five-year-old kids waiting around outside, waiting for these butterflies to be released. Like, the anticipation is skyrocketing. Like, we are so excited for these butterflies to be out.

And as they're about to release these butterflies, a beautiful symbolism of change, of metamorphosis, of hope. Jordan has to make the announcement. Hey, everyone, Dad Talk got invited to the villa. And I know we have something to celebrate with these, you know, three beautiful lives coming into the world. But Dad Talk, who wants to go to the villa? And I was like, are you... New beginning.

I don't know how many new beginnings we need. I go first. So, does I have a little announcement? So I'm kind of exciting for the boys. So I made a few calls. A time and play. Actually, no time and place. There is no time and place for this.

No one cares that much. I literally was so funny. I haven't seen rants about this. I do. I'm with you on this. I was validated because I was looking. Now my talk is all mom. Whatever.

And Charlie DeMilio also went off about this. And I was like, me and Charlie on the same side of her street. Like that makes me feel better. Because I was so upset. Like these, the kids are sitting there waiting for these butterflies. And he's going on 10 minutes. Everyone's kind of uncomfortable about this. Not even like a lot of the dads are excited about it because it's all like obviously a hot topic.

and a touchy topic for them. Like, what? The sip and see when they're about to afraid the butterflies is when you announce this? Like, no one cares that much. Also, he's acting like it's the honor of a lifetime

to get invited to the villa. I didn't know what the villa was. So then I had, me and Dary and are Googling the whole time because we don't know nobody. Is it Love Island? It's the Vanderpump Villa,

like Lisa, Lisa Vanderpump's villa. Ah. And I was like, okay, then we look it up. It's just another Hulu show. So you didn't get invited because it's some honor. Like, they're like,

oh, we need Jordan from Dad Talk. Like, he's such a hot, influencer like we need him over here in the villa no you got invited because corporate was like let's get these two shows synergy it worked so well last season it was so messy for the girls let's him invite the dads it's not because you are a star jordan no you're not like nothing of the swords and then he shows up to the airport dad talk hat dad talk t-shirt looking just he's trying foolish foolish foolish i can't i can't handle it and you literally was so mad i was so mad i was so hateful and i don't even want to hear like you know hate means love because it's just pure hate

I don't want anything bad to happen to Jordan. Like, you know, stay alive, all that. But, like, get off my TV. Go get a job. Work anywhere else. I don't even remember Jordan on the show. He's the one that looks like Scott Dissick. That's all I know how to describe him.

It's really annoying. I, like, don't remember this at all. And I watched it. He's mad because Jesse, Jesse cheated on him in the villa or whatever. The Manipa Villa? Yes, the last season. I know. Oh, this too, they already been to the Villa.

The Girls went to the Villa last season. I did not remember this. Oh, my God. Okay. Girls went to the villa season four, or last season, season three. And she cheated on him? Yes, which I don't forget his name. How come no one's talking about this.

Like, my TikTok gives me all the highlights, and I never once heard of Jesse or James or John or whoever we're talking about. What was his name? Jesse. Jordan. Jordan. And she's Jesse. She's Jesse.

I think, with an eye, I believe. Okay. Did the butterfly survive? She really had to shake him out of the box to get the, you know, the wind beneath their wings. Some of them kind of, I don't know how far they flew. They looked a little tired It was a little rough And the kids were like

Can we open the butterflies now? Like they literally were standing there Waiting for them to open the box And free the butterfly Like these four year old kids But he had to make his announcement About going to the villa And like hooking up with people

Like it was just sick and sinister I'm so confused They're going there to hook up with people Well the girls There was an affair that happened last season So they are going Like some of them are going And be like ooh like who knows

We might hook up with some girls Because basically The husbands? Yes. And that's why Whitney does it. Whitney was like uncomfortable with Connor going because of all the scandals that have been last. Do they go to the villa? Mind you, three of them just had babies three weeks ago.

And they're all going to the villa. Right, right. That's what we're celebrating. And Jenna Fleck is like, you know, I want you to go. Like, I want you to go to the villa. She can bring back the tea. Mind you, she doesn't even have a place in L.A. for dancing with the stars. She has this baby.

She's crashing at Whitney's place, aka Shane Dawson's house. Like, it does look like it. It is kind of giving that, no. The kitchen. Yeah. Is it not? Did you... I didn't have fact check.

I just am going with everything that's happening. She does it's house. I literally have been like... It's, I've been seen that one meme. It's like, uh, this, uh, boy sitting in a chair and like these two people are scrolling. They're like TikTok and Twitter. Like, and he's like consuming the information. That's been me with a secretalized Mormon wise.

I have been getting the text from you, the DMs. I know. I couldn't even help it. I was so irate. Like, and it was like 11 p.m. And I'm like, I have to let Trisha know that my life is ruined because of this show. Like, it actually ruined. my whole day.

I kind of love the passion though behind it because I was, it was like 11 p.m. and I was like, I was like, let me just text back and be like, I'm with you, I stand with you, I get it. This is so funny. I never hear anyone talking about him,

but I also don't know these two people. And I feel like I've watched the whole show. Like, I'm so confused. That's so weird. Literally never crosses the sphere of anything. But I love that you're advocating for this. He literally has such a big part of that first episode and that's all I've seen.

Like, he's the one that, like, Lelifies with him towards the end of the arcade. This show is like really diabolical. And like, it makes no sense. We do have a live response from one of them. Right now. Who did you text? All the guys on the Mormon wives, like they're not cute.

They're all ugly. Except for Whitney's guy, he seems great. He's always going to like Chicago and dressing and cosplay. Like we love it. What was that? Oh, someone just put it together. He didn't post it. No.

It says, come out to NYC from your favorite chop pickle. That's what the caption says. Did you call him a chop pickle? You must have that must have been Oscar. I think you're so cute, Tyler. You're in this camera. right out. Oh, I think you're so good. I think you're cute. It was Oscar who called your chop pickle. I don't even know Connor when you're talking about. That sounds like you. That sounds like a chopicle

you. Oh. I'm sorry. Wee. No, it's so cute. I talked to Whitney and DMs and she's also this, yeah, she also said the sentiment. You know what? I am going to New York for 24 hours and I think I'm only going to be there on a Monday though. I am going for 24 hours possibly get there on a Sunday. I really want to see Chicago. Even though Matthew Morathens is going to be just in time, I really be like, who would I go see Whitney Levin or Jonathan? You got to see Whitney. Oh, I mean, I do love Whitney, but Matthew Morrison? I think we've seen Matthew Morrison.

He's seen most of the show by now. He is going to be in Palm Springs March 22nd. I thought about maybe going down there for a show on Sunday. But yeah, I guess I wouldn't know. Oh, but that's not, that was in February. How did we miss it? February 13th he posted it. I was just tagged in it.

He also just loves promoting Chicago, which I love for him because they are. I'm saying. He was doing the work. Connor, you're not a chop pickle. No, I really don't think I was the one that said it because I don't even, I didn't know him until yesterday. It was Moses. Moses said Chopped. I take the blame. We must, oh, we must, maybe you.

I think it was a generalization. Yeah, that they all were chopped pickles. That's a catch. And like, not to be mean or whatever, but all the guys on the Mormon wives, like they're not cute. They're all ugly. They're all chopped, as you would say. Chopped and what's the one pickled? Unk.

Pickled, chopped. All of them. But I think not you, Moses said that. I really don't think it was mean. I think I'm not a chop. Maybe. Chop dunks. I probably would have said something like that.

Yeah, I never hear anyone talk about that person ever. I know Connor, and I knew Jen Affleck's husband, Zach, I guess. We know his name because it's like Forkswamy and Dakota. I couldn't tell you any of the other Dad Talkers. There's one that looks like Charlie Kirk. There's Jordan, and there's one with curly hair, and that's all I know. And the red, yeah, that's all I can contribute to Dad Talk. Literally also, the most embarrassing.

I cannot take a man serious when he refers to himself as a, as a, as a guy. a dad talker. Like, let's get serious. We're 30. Let's get serious about it. Yeah, you're not. But also, it never existed. Like, there was mom talk. They did TikToks together. There was a style to it. There was a whole thing. Well, that's why they're copying him because of the husbands. But they never made content under dad talk. Like, that doesn't exist. Well, they do now. But that sounds horrific. They do like dances. Do you want to join it? Do you want to join mom talk and dad talk together? We could just want to be it. Let's go be Mormons. Couple talks, but not. No, I want you to be in the dad talk. I don't know. Everyone

hates him. Why would you want to let Moses in with them? Connor's doing magic. I think Connor is the only, I did see like TikTok's ranking the men of Dad Talk. Connor did get, I think he got like a 7 out of 10. Him and Chase, I want to say got a 7 out of 10.

Chase is the one that's now away from Shayla that broke up with Shayla. I think, no, Chase was Miranda's ex-husband? This is why you need to give your babies Aquaman, Honey, Humble. We need to know the difference. These Jesse Jace, Chase, Ashley, Monica, Taylor.

Like, it's Whitney. Like, there's just, we love it, but I don't know who's who. And not to be like that person, but it just all sounds just like a generic group of just like white people. You know what I mean? You're just like, who are all these people? I don't know. I mean, that is their tea.

And they all do look like each other. They don't. Right? Like the hair. You need to be doing TikToks with your kids. Like, you need to be part of your family. You need to still be married to your wife. Like, you need to be a dad.

Well, I think they are still married, right? But it sounds like some of them are not even. going to the villa to hook up. Yeah. Yeah. Like, to me, dad talk is me and Malibu and Elvis doing TikToks, not me and other dads away from our kids doing TikTok. I like the idea of dad. I like the idea of you being dad talk. I don't know if I like this dad talk. This dot talk is diabolical. Diabolical talk. Yeah. It's more like it. They're sick.

I don't like when you like try to make what's going on, what's working for your wives, like do your own thing. Like don't copy what they're doing. No, I know. And that's why his whole announcement as the butterflies are suffocating in this box is like, I think it's important that dad talk stands on their own two feet and shows that we are our own thing not related to mom talk like like he thinks he did die but you did nothing of the sword. The opposite approach to take. Literally. And all the women are like, oh, so you're just copying us?

Like you're literally falling on our footsteps because that's what? We did it last season and he's like, no, like we're standing on our own two feet guys. Like, come on. Oh, I remember this scene? Like it's just... That is weird. I remember the scene and I cannot remember his face, but that doesn't matter. But I remember this.

Yeah, that is interesting. I didn't know they went last season because I haven't watched. That's why asked if you started with season one or you're going back, but I think we to go backwards too. I'm gonna, I'm starting for, I'm getting through it to be like up to date because all the Bachelorette stuff. I'm like, I'm really along for the ride. Well, once we ended Monday as like everything came out, it's like, oh, domestic violence

and abuse against the kid allegedly, like all this stuff has all like all like, all like the fan, good morning, America this morning, everything and I was just like, oh my gosh. Like, because I think last episode, so it was like, I like, I like, I like, I like I don't think I do. Like, you know, it like, it changed within like an hour. I almost was like, maybe we should edit like what time we were filming because it changed so quickly. And I was like, oh, I don't know. People are so divisive. It's like the, the Jake chain, too. It's like, there's people who are just like hardcore, like, cancel Taylor and other

people like, we're going to watch. This is going to get the views. And same thing with Jake. It's like, well, that's why people are watching. That's the conversation. Like, cancel him. He's awful. It's like, it is like, it is like polarizing everybody is about these two people right now. I know. I don't. I guess let me start with TFP. I'm like so in it. Yeah, I felt so, like, in the know. And then we interviewed TFP, but she wasn't on camera. wasn't on camera. Yeah. Wait, we just called in?

She, well, she's had Bachelorette press scheduled for, like, this whole week. So the timing is, like, diabolical. Yeah. That's what I don't understand. Okay, so, right, it was scheduled. The press, obviously her being at the Oscars, it's coming out next week. Is these allegations, is it something new? Recent.

February 23rd was the one that they reported it. I guess the T is, um, Dakota had, like, scratches on his neck and stuff. So one of his friends reported it to the, the police and then like Dakota told his friend and then the friend reported to the police and that was on February 23rd so it wasn't it's not like it happened yesterday but but it's not old it's not the old tea where she had arrested the first that incident was 2023 but um that mugshot TMZ just got it and has been like reporting on that incident back in 20203 and that was with I believe a different boyfriend no it was so Dakota but with the other kids because ever it wasn't

born yeah ever wasn't born yeah yeah was the other kid yeah yeah was the other kid yeah Yeah. So, and with that mugshot and everything. So that was 2023. But the recent stuff, and with them halting filming of season five of Secret Lives, Mormon Lives, that just happened end of February. So it's not that old. Oh, so why was it, why was the news breaking one day?

That's what, I mean, Taylor has been saying the similar things. Like, she was on her, like, a little press tour. She hasn't really been, she's kind of been sidestepping the questions and, like, hasn't fully like addressed allegations she's basically just said like it's all very unfortunate and she said that she kind of hinted that the timing is because they the premiere is coming up and the press is scheduled for this week so I think her perspective is from Dakota there's something there where like they were waiting for like this press run to kind of like smear her a little bit is kind of what she's insinuating because she's like I never been able to

to enjoy like any of these premieres because something always comes out every time it's like the premiere week blah blah blah blah but i've seen some talk there was a podcast that she was supposed to be and she didn't go and they said that every time and i think they know her every time something big happens in her life he sabotages it so there's like and i mean like you said it before this is a toxic relationship like there's i would agree with it i wonder if that's happening i would agree with it if they kept bringing up her old one right like if it's like okay something happened 23 and this is a bachelor's coming out, it's like, well, let's not forget and like whatever. But if this is something that just happened now with ever, allegedly, because they talk

about the son and she died, I never hurt my kids or something like that. So that's what Taylor Frankie Ball said. Like, it's all, it's all new. It like keeps happening, right? Like, it is annoying to have stuff brought up from your past and be like, oh, every time something big happens, something gets brought up. But if you keep doing it, that's on you. I mean, that is on you.

I don't know. I can't really be like, like, a, like, apologists anymore for her because it is like repeated behavior and it can't be like, every time something big happens. It's like, well, how many times does these things happen that it's like, now he has scratches and now this. And I think, I know there's PR people and also you can correct me if I'm wrong, which is like, oh, you know, I can't say anything now, but I'll say my truth. It's like, I would vehemently deny that that happened. I'd be like, that's absolutely bullshit. That did not happen.

Like, you know what I mean? No matter what? Because, like, what do you mean? You're going to be like, I'll share my truth when the time is right. It's like, no, share it now if you didn't do it. Like, that's, I mean, because this, to me, these are like, more than just like a little, like, whatever, just. and Whitney drama. I think it's like, it's like so serious,

especially when there's like kids involved, your childhood can be taken away. I think that's the time more than anything. Who cares? She said she put her, she's on the morning, my afternoon and she'd say, oh, I was put the kids first.

It's like, so PR people say, just be like, I was never abusive. To even be abusive to their dad, you know, this whole thing. It could be, that's like such serious allegations. I'd be like, what the fuck like? But the fact that she's like not denying it is like, okay, how many, I can't keep like covering for her

and be like, well, you know, she is having a big moment now. It's like, well, what? this, if this doesn't happen, then this stuff wouldn't come up. And it's really serious. It's not just, again, not just drama. I feel like that's one thing to be like drama. Or even toxicity.

Oh, like she slept with her baby daddy, whatever. In comparison, that's not really a big deal. Like, Bachelors do it, whatever. But it's like when he's like saying, you know, the kids were there and, you know, that's the most serious, I think. I don't think there's anything more serious than child endangerment possibly happening allegedly. Thank you so much to Morgan and Morgan for sponsor today's episode of Just Trish.

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Taylor Frankie Ball. But like it's so serious. I feel like people don't like understand it, how serious it is. Like, it's very bizarre to me. Yeah. And including ABC Hulu. I think they should be like deny it. Like if it's not true. I think, well, A, there is like the PR element, but two, it's an ongoing investigation. So that also

like as, it's going to become like a legal thing. So I think that's why she also can't really say anything. Because anything that she says will be used on Dakota's like legal side against her. Yeah, but saying I was not abusive to you. But I don't think she can say.

that because because i think she brought like i think Dakota's also saying there's like video proof of him so you think something happened in your opinion i would think just because she is not really saying anything i think there probably is some kind of like video proof that's what dakota's been saying isn't i think TMZ also has been reporting that there is like video proof of her allegedly like scratching him or like pulling his necklace and like choking him or something and so there's that element too i mean uh dakota's also released like the screenshots of uh receiving over 150 missed calls from her after the bachelorette filming so it's not looking great for her obviously there is some mental health like that i do feel for because there is some mental health

but like you said like i think when it results in like actual like having actual victims or people like getting physically hurt and also i i know the argument people take it a little less serious because like he's a big guy and she's like so little but still like div is dv and i think people also just dislike dakota and i don't even i barely know i haven't even gone to dakota after yeah yeah yeah yeah so i haven't even gotten to his tea yet i believe that he's diabolical for sure but without seeing it you're like he is for sure yeah because the way everyone's talking about it i'm like oh he must suck but you know i if i went and saw jordan in the street and i jumped him and was trying to choke him with a necklace.

Like, even though he's diabolical and I can't stand the man, like that's still a crime. Yeah, Siliquine. Yeah. And you also have kids with this person. Like,

it is a whole, it is, and it's so recent. And it's like, this is the second time that we know. And it's just like, damn. And it's maybe like alcohol.

I know, like the first one she said she was drunk and there was alcohol involved or something. So it's like maybe, but again, it's just like, get help. And I bit,

like, okay, before I know, like, try shall judge it's like, I think I called Moses. literally like 1,200 times in like 24 hours. You never did block me.

You just like seeing those phone calls come in. It's a form of connection. That's crazy. But I was, but, okay, I will say this is summer 2020 where I am like out of my mind, Zan next out, drinking every day, like just doing the absolute most. And I've been there.

And that's why I think I scared me and like it's so real and severe. Because like I have, I think a lot of, A lot of people have been there. I've been there. And it's like, I mean, that was like the worst I've ever been was that summer that I knew you before we started dating. And it was just awful. And I harassed Moses like so many times on the phone calls and stuff. And so it's like, I get it. But I feel like it's like people aren't taking this seriously enough. I don't know. It's crazy. Including her. I get like the bachelets coming out. I honestly don't think they need additional press for it at this point. I think people will watch it. Like you are saying people are going to watch. I don't think she needs to do like a little PR tour right now if she's not going to answer the questions. Because if anything, it kind of makes me like you said. Just deny it, girl. Just be like, I didn't do it. And if what, like, kind of like, what you were explaining is like, if there is video proof, she can't deny it.

And so it's like, let's just stop the press tour. I just hear the matcher out, I suppose. People will watch. I think she needs to be doing a list. So she's like calling in and not doing phone. I don't know. But if it did happen, should they air that? Like, if somebody is proven to do that.

I don't know. I mean, I would say no, but that's, I guess. I don't know. It is a double standard. I do think I see the discourse. You know, she's ready. There's as much reality TV shows when somebody becomes a criminal, basically. Nine-day fiancé is a good example.

Like, they shut them down. Once they know that guy that I was talking to for nine-day founders in prison for life now, he, yeah, as soon as they found out he had DV charges against him, they stopped airing the episodes. Same thing. There was a, yeah, there was, it's been a lot on 90-fiancee. Yeah, probably not, but I think it is a privilege thing. I'm not to be, again, that person, but I have seen the discourse as she's like, you know, pretty like I think if it was a male or

a different race you know it could be a little different if she had these same accusations yeah I think so too and we'll see I mean maybe somehow she'll clear her name I don't know but as right now at all I think the timing would be now I just because it is crazy like I again like 248 hours ago I was like

god I love Taylor for Pink Paul and it's like damn I don't know it is I don't know I just think it's like way more like serious than before taking it I'm like this is what it is this reality TV but I'm like I think it's like now like kind of serious. I don't know. And they are, they're both awful, but,

but I have seen people like, Taylor's the show without the show. It's like, but all the Mormon rights have been quiet. No one has been saying anything about it, which I feel like it's like the biggest thing right now. But I guess, like you said, maybe they can't or. Yeah. Because Taylor's like, yeah, they told me they pause. Did you watch the Good Morning America?

Yeah. And she's like, they told me they paused. I don't know. I don't have a say in it. Like, aren't you an executive producer? She's like, yeah, because we like produce our lives. And I was like, girl, what do you mean your executive producer? You don't know why they're pausing it.

You know, it's just, it's not a good press run for her right now. It makes just worse. You know, just, I don't know, just stop talking. I know. It does, like, again, one element of the whole thing that does kind of make me scoff a little bit is there is discourse now because we now know that Taylor ends up going back to Dakota because, you know, she's been calling them. They obviously had contact and stuff after the Bachelorette. I guess it leaked who she picked. from like show spoilers but then also there's like paparazzi photos of her and a guy and she did

that TikTok with the guy's arm which I'm a quick sidebar before I go back to my point I am so sick of these stupid little soft launches or it's not even a soft it's kind of a hard launch I guess with like men's arms in the frame either be about it or don't be about it Michaela you too Taylor Frangipal you like okay I'm it's so like a nothing burger like oh who could this bicep belong to girl either Put his whole body in it or just leave it alone. Like, I just- Let you know we did that too. Did you really?

We did a soft lunch. Girl, you too. Literally an arm. I cannot. Like, it is so like, who could it possibly be you? It makes sense for you. You're mentally ill.

I'll give you a pass. Well, there is all around everybody right now. My God, true. Everyone going to the therapy, mental hospital. No, please. Not like this little like tease as if it's the, I'm like, oh my God. I kind of love it. Because when you're first starting dating, you want someone to know.

You're like, look at me with a guy, you know. It's like you kind of want someone to know. At 31, you're still doing these antics. That was me at 31. I was, that's what I'm saying. I was Taylor's exact age when I was about to die. Like I was about to like literally like,

I was insane. And it's like there is that brink. And I mean, I wasn't filming myself on TV, which is like another, that's a whole other level. But. And you didn't have kids, you weren't married. And I was not credible like this. I wasn't on Bachelor at ABC Disney Hulu.

You know, You know what I mean? Like, you are a pariah, actually. I don't want it. Nothing to do with it. Oh, yes. Pariah? I never heard that.

I like that. I was a pariah. Very that. I was like slumps. Okay, I was like slump, slump, slump, slump. I was on, when I say unwell, you know what, Sophia with an app thing. She coined unwell?

I think I was unwell. I was the most unwell of anybody. It was, it was rock bottom. My time is done. I'm going out, blazing. And that's what's scary. And we're all seeing it. And also to the comments, not to us, but I see it on TikToks,

so people are like, how does this affect you? Why does this affect you? It's like, it's all playing out. We're all in this ride. We're all on TV. We're all watching Bachelor. Like, it's for us to consume. Like that's it.

And also us watching makes them rich. So like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And when people say it's true, they're like, people are going to watch the Bachelorette. Like, now to Moses, what they said should they air it? Like, morally, probably not. Will it get a lot of views?

Yeah, obviously. and people will champion her for the privilege as she has. But yeah, it's scary because I was 31 too. And yeah, I didn't have kids. But it's like, yeah, 31 and you're this. It's like, it's just scary. And it's also, it's even scarier. Because I think, like I said, like, I was just like, everyone's like, oh, she's scary.

Like, don't touch her. Everyone's just kind of like still trying to champion and bring her up. And I'm like, I get it. We all love her. But maybe he needs like tough love right now where it's like this is not it, girl. You know? I don't know. It's so weird.

Yeah. And I also reserve the ride to change. As information comes out, like, yeah. But as well right now, it's just like not looking great. And yeah, the antics around like the show. Oh, yeah, back to my point. People are like, like, wow, she really wasted these 22 guys' time. Like, they could have had someone who really wanted love.

Girl, okay, this is not like an actual show where like everyone is like looking for love. Like, it's like every other dating show where everyone wants a little bit of clout, a little career. Like the Bachelor and The Bachelor is not some sacred show where like it's all everyone's in it to win it like everyone just wants to love like yes some couples work But it's still mess and it's still lowbrow entertainment like every other dating show No, I agree that part I'm like okay everyone relax like it's just the Bachelor right I do think it's a waste of time because you go on TV looking To get some notoriety so if you're like leaving your family leaving your work and like they don't pay right bachelor doesn't pay so you're like well I want to get something right you're gonna get a podcast you're gonna get a brand deal like all the love island people. But I would argue now it makes them even more sympathetic.

So now they're going to have a better career because everyone's going to feel bad because if it airs. Oh, I think it, I would, I was going to say about my life, but I'll say I'll 95% sure it's still going to air. No, yeah, I agree. But if it didn't, right, when people are like, they wasted the time. If it didn't air, then it's like, well, they got literally nothing. But every people are making comments like she, because she, if she ends up, if she's

still in love with Dakota, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, they're saying that way. Like, oh, she's still in love with Dakota. out why would she waste her time if she still went back to the ex? Like, girl, everyone was in it for a little coin, a little following. I guess. But some of the other wives could have, like, Shayla would have been great on it. You know what I mean?

Everyone's saying Miranda, who... Which one's Miranda? She's blonde. Skinny. Beneers. Where's curls in her hair. Has kids. Like, be more specific.

This is blonde. She's single. Her ex-husband is Chase. Oh, my God. Chase is the one who has a crush on Taylor. Oh. Whose brother is dating Layla. Who...

Lela also dated Chase. Oh, my God. I have no idea who Chase is. Okay, I need to rewatch. I swear I watch and I'm so coherent. That's so weird. I'm not going to lie. So many of them do just like mix together for real.

They're just like... Darren has been so... Like, he kept... Like, I was like, okay, this girl is the one that's going to be the Bachelorette. He's like, okay, got it. And then he's made it. mixed up every other Burnett. He's like, oh, this one's one on bachelor?

I'm like, no, this one. And like, I have to keep Googling and showing him. It was a lot. Like, my brain is so tired from trying to figure all these girls out in like literally 24 hours. I don't know. I would have had Moses watch it in 24 hours to see if he could have caught on to any of this because he's so out of it.

And he knows no one from, no, that thing about this. So I'm like. Darien is like seated now. He's like, I love it. I'm like, and he's a little bit more artistic, a little bit more, you know, hard to win over. Yeah. He loves, you know, a mini-series, a drama, like an HBO and FX.

But he's seated for Secret Lives and Mormon-wise right now. So we truly want him over. But damn, it is entertaining. I'll give him that. I get why the girls are seated for it. Do you think, who do you think is the star of the show? I am so biased now. You're right where I think I have to go back and see where everyone hated Whitney.

Yeah. I love Whitney. I love Whitney. I know me too. I don't know the villainy era. sensible like she's like no i don't want connor to go to the villa with all the other guys even connor's like she's got a lot going on we had we just moved to l-a she's starting dancing with the stars next week yeah they seem like the most sensible was yes and jen is like Whitney like are you

insecure that connor can't uh stay faithful if he goes to the villa and she's like no which one jen yes and this is episode one yeah mind you mind you mind you She said, her husband, the nanny, the assistant ought to stay in the same D'S Douss House. They do. And they do go say in Chausen's house with them. And that's when she arrives at their door because she had no Airbnb in LA, she's saying like, I think Whitney's like insecure about Connor and like doesn't want him at the villa. But I trust my man.

Because your man's gay. Ah! That's why she trusts him. That's what I should go have fun. Like day she knows. It's like that love for marriage. Like how fun I want you to go. Do you girl?

Okay. Like, sure. And Connor, I believe they talked about it in previous season, was on Tinder. Yes, the Tinder scandal. And so she, you know, not that there's a reason to, first of all, I wouldn't want Moses to go either. And there's no Tinder scandal.

Me and, like, same. And also it's like, and she literally said, well, I saw how bad it was for all the girls last. I was there. I lived it last year when I saw all the mess that ensued after. Why would I want him to be in that situation? What did they, like, go to the villa? They mean like Tom Sandoval and they're like, but they're all hooked up.

I think it's like a, it gets, my concept of it is that they're all, all the employees are just hot and they all hook up with each other. So it's kind of like a temptation. Because last, Marciano, I think is his name. An employee there last season hooked up with, I think, Demi. And I, I think, or Jesse. I don't know. One of them. They're married.

Yes, that was a whole scandal. Jesse had an affair, Jordan's wife, had an affair with one of the. On camera, like, they're in the show? I guess. I have to go back. This is crazy. And what does it mean an employee? Like, are they, is like a bartender?

Is it like, it's like a, I guess it's a villa. So I guess it's like, you go out there, you, you stay there and they are like your waiters. Like I guess by the pool, I'm assuming. Which probably is a plant by the show probably. Oh, a million percent. They're like, oh, your job is to get. They have a show, right? Vanderpump Villa is a show.

It's kind of like Pomp, like Manderpun rules. It was like Tom Zandival on that show. Yeah. And Ariana and stuff. And this one's in England. So it's the same concept where they're just young and horny and messy. Oh my God. And just hooking up willy-nilly.

But wasn't the whole group of the mom-talk swingers to begin with? Did they all? I think it was just Taylor and allegedly maybe Chase, I think, was involved in that. I think so. And then the other ones kind of dipped. The other ones were like, I'm not in. Like, not like Whitney and anyone else. Because there was a few.

It wasn't just. Yeah, but I don't think it's the people on the show is what I'm gathered. I think it's just Taylor because she's the only one who talks about it. Which is like the reason I guess it got like picked up for a show, I guess you could say. But I always think of the TikTok sound like a new bombshell has entered the villa. Yes. Is that from that one? No.

That's from Love Island. That's from Love Island, yes. Too many villas. Too many villas. Who the hell wants going to go to villas? And I'll use it. They're 30s. You're Mormons.

And it's like they were acting as if it was this huge getaway too. It's like, yeah, it's like a free trip to England staying at the villa. Mind you, it's three days. Like, it's just England. Like, they're acting as if it's, like, the opportunity of a lifetime and the honor of a lifetime to get the invitation to the villa. You can go on a vacation anytime. Like, who, you know what I mean?

Like, it's not like, this is their one shot. Like, you already rich. Like, hello. I do wonder how much they all make. I think privacy is in four they're making more. But, like, you think rich? I think so. I think some, like Taylor and women.

Again, I'm really early on. Jesse was talking about separating from Jordan and like they never the tease was we never I never finished the pre-up and I could lose millions is what Jesse said who had the money Jesse said she could lose millions to Jordan because Jordan wants to have the lifestyle like he loves the lifestyle he leads now whatever oh my god okay so I think they're making all that to say I think they're making a lot or also to I think their houses look men not to be judgy but they don't look like a rich house, you know what I mean? I think too, though, like, I'm sure maybe the show doesn't pay that much.

I think probably a lot of their money comes from the brand deals. And also a part of making them feel like maybe that's why I do believe Taylor where she probably doesn't know what the hell it means that she's executive producer because I feel like it's one of those things where like you, you know, like, okay, we won't give you that much, but we'll give you this much and you're an executive producer. So it's like you can kind of add that to your resume or whatever. It kind of makes me feel like you have more like power over it. Amanda Seifred also, she, this sounds unrelated, but she talked about it with the housemaid.

Like, when they signed her on, they also gave her an executive producer title. And she talked about an interview. She's like, they just gave me that. She's like, I didn't do anything. They just gave me that title. Yeah. No, that makes sense. I think, yeah, that makes sense.

Sometimes they just do it just to like sweeten the deal a little bit, you know, and not. And some people invest the money and the lifestyle rather than a house. Yeah. Like they want to live a lavish life and feel famous. so you're not going to just dump all the money into a house. Can never be YouTubers. They were spending $50,000 on rent, you know, those R2L boys. Everyone does, who else?

Who else had those big glass houses, remember? Like a Jake Paul. Wasn't the Team 10 house? Team 10 had one, but there was one even bigger that Tanna ended up moving into. But before her, it was like, God, who was there? What was it, rice gum? That sounds right. Where he did that, you know, with Elisa.

And they had that huge house. And it was like, I remember because then Tanna moved in afterwards. I remember she said it was like $30,000 for rent. That's crazy. And every YouTuber was, me too. Everyone is like they invested in the house, not investing. I mean, they just spent the money on the house because like that is what was flashy. Well, I mean, hope they invest in their experiences rather than their houses.

It's smarter. But I don't know. I just don't see Jen and John doing any brand deals or anything. You don't even like I don't see them anywhere. I only see Jen, Whitney, Taylor. I don't see the other. Macy's, Mara, Mary. Miranda.

Jesse, John, Jake. Like, you never see them. No shade. I honestly don't know, but like, love them. Love the girls. Don't know them, though. T, I think I just like the girls. Maybe.

That's why I don't understand why when you said, like, that clip of you being like, oh, there, I hate all the guys, chopped, musty, dusty, crusty, like, why anyone would comment otherwise? Because I, from what I could see thus far, maybe one or two, I'll give a little Conner, yeah. maybe Chase, I'm still researching and looking into that and investigating. Maybe Chase's brother, but everyone else. He's not diabolical.

He's with like Taylor and Layla and like all that. You know what I mean? That's like, yeah, T. And also like Miranda is like, was like best friends with Taylor, but Chase is like pursuing Taylor and Taylor doesn't want a relationship with him. But Chase has a crush on her.

I don't know. It's a mess girl. It's a mess. I can't. It's really taking over my brain these days. But, uh, I do like another.

one. I think she's coming out with a book. It's crazy that more people haven't come out with a book. What, did they show it on this season? They showed one of them signing copies of her book. Oh, okay, yes. What's her name? Shoot. She's blonde. I like... She's blonde. Skinny with veneers. She might be a young mom. There's one that had a kid at like 16.

Oh. I think. I'm not getting that mixed up. One had a kid at 16 and she doesn't know about. I think I like her. I don't know her name. Is it Macy? Macy. Yes. And I believe the father of her first child, like, died when she was like 18. Oh, no.

It's like a really sad story. Yeah. Someone had just told me about this. And I was like, oh, I'd read that memoir. I'm surprised there's not more memoirs coming out with them. I'm sure they're coming. I'm sure. Yeah.

Taylor Frankie Paul memoir. She might need to wait a minute to write hers. Yeah. We need the up. We can't end on the... Yeah. We got to, once, you know, we get everything together, mental health's in check. you know, life a little bit more stable.

People, people would love it. People would love it. I think you're talking about this yesterday too. It's like, I think people really want to see that. You know what I mean? I think we're, we've gone through the mess. We love the mess. And now we're like, let's clean it up, you know?

Damn. You're going to watch The Bachelor it? I haven't been seated for any Bachelor franchise show in a while. I'm tempted. I am tempted just to see the antics. And the trailers look a little crazy. Like, yeah. She, they show one clip where she like is, she's like, I'm taking all the roses.

No one's going to get one. And I'm like, it's very mom. It's very mom. It's like, no one's getting anything. I do. I did love that. I know. She gave me fierce.

It's just like, I don't know. It's like a weird thing to watch, I guess. I don't know. I'm, I'm curious about the antics and shenanigans. And also like, it is, I don't, I don't know. I don't really care who wins. I'm kind of just like, how are they going to go about it? How is it going to be edited?

I'm curious about that. part of it, I suppose, more so than like the actual outcome. Because we know who she picks. We know she goes back to her ex-husband. We know she's still trying to, I don't know, go back to the other guy that she picked from The Bachelorette. So I don't know. It's just such a mess.

I had heard in that the TikTok soft launch, it was her brother's arm. Well, I heard my, I was like, I can't like, this is your fault because my TikTok now is all, I had never seen a thing on Monday. I was watching it back I was going off and Jimmy put in a little caption He didn't know any of these people Forty three minutes ago And literally that moment changed my life forever

Because now look at me I am like so invested And like stressed out That was me over the weekend I know what I talked about I'm like most of you seen this He's like nothing And then I was like nothing well I'm glad you're into it

Oh my God yeah And it's like I don't so I'm just I'm curious about it anyway What I heard was the guy was wearing a blue shirt And then there was paparazzi photos the either that same day or the day before of her with the guy that she picked out in L.A. And he was wearing the same shirts. She would be messy like that. Yeah. Because you're not to see each other and be hidden and it's, I guess no one cared in the past

two, but I guess now it's a little more. It's just such a fiasco. I don't know what the hell is going to what the hell is going to happen. Yeah, I don't know either. I feel like we we were into Bachelor for like two seasons and then I was calling it. Mind you again, I will never forget. Hillary Duff's Lizzie McGuire reboot was too much and then all this has happened. On the same network is crazy to me. Justice for the Elizabeth Warren reboot. They won't pick up the Buffy, the Vampire Slayer reboot, but they'll air this like it is crazy

to me. The times we're living in. Hulu. Love you, but let's get it together. Also, I don't know if I can do Hulu with commercials. That's a whole other journey for me, but. Yeah, I think we talked about this before. We paid like $65 for Hulu and we get like three-minute ads.

Like literally, it's so weird I'm like, what the f? Their ads are so long. Yeah, it's... Those ads are so long. I mean, we're seated for Hulu. We do love that's all we watch, but we need to do something about that $65.

And they're like the worst ads too. Like them and it's the same ones over and over and over again. And it just like... We always see car ones and then it repeats itself in that same cycle three minutes. I was like, we just watched this country. And it's all like AI ads now too. And it's just like, oh my God, I can't, I can't handle this anymore.

But AI is getting so real. there is in my, I have like a favorite influencer and I was showing R.A. today and I was like, oh, my God, look at this pink drink she got. And she goes, oh, she's AI. I was like, there's no way. And she looks real, real. Like I, there's a lot of AI influencers. Huh? There's a lot of AI influencers. No, what I've seen was something else that were somebody was creating basically an AI influencer using one of those prompt. And it created somebody that looked exactly like an existing YouTuber. Oh, that's what this girl looks like. She looks

So what people are discovering now is that YouTube, basically in your agreement with YouTube, Google, everything, they have in there that they are allowed to train their AI with your videos. So basically, you should expect to see AI influencers that look like you. Because that's how they're training the software. And the more people have airtime on YouTube, the more they'll actually learn based on you. Does it look AI to you? She does look AI. Okay, wait, but then I went, okay, that drink looks so good. I literally commented she.

She looks like that one girl, Matilda Dorff or something. Yeah, she looks like someone. She looks like AI. I don't know if it's because now it's in my head, like, but she does kind of give AI. But she also looks like a Corinna cough or something, you know? Or that Brecky? I love you blocking all the camera. I'm sorry.

I'm a show. I'm going to stand up like Ricky like used to do. I just crowd work. I love when they stand. Then I can talk more if I'm closer. We are kind of far away from each other, everybody. But now like. I feel like I'm squinting like Ariana Grande over at you.

I'm like, what is that? Like writers now, they stop using Google Docs because the same thing, you know, the They can take it their work. The AI can use their work. It's actually so insane. I don't know what's happening in this world with everything. It's so scary. The AI.

They might use my imagery. Not that I want them to. I'm just saying, oh, that is crazy. She looks real to me, but I thought I'm pretty good at AI. Like, I can usually tell. You are getting better, yeah. Also, justice for you, I suppose, because I sent it to the – I was off my Adderall, by the way, yesterday.

I ran out, so that's why I was really chatty yesterday. I realized. I love it. Because I was in that group text. I was like, look at this. Look at this. Look at this. You were working.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And I was aware of that, too. And I was aware of that, too. I was like everyone's got to miss. No, and there was like, to want any text between a group chat and Mo's chiming and you're chiming Jimmy's out.

I'm like, what is happening here? And it was like, yeah, I know. And it was just, Zara Larson loves the AI fruit too. And I was like, damn. Because I brought up a not love line too and no one's seen. And it's like, this is so crazy because everyone on my 4-U page is like watching the fruit, watching strawberry. Y'all are seated. And I thought it was just a no shade.

I thought it was just a Tricia Peda's thing. I was like, because I'm like, damn, you are easily influenced. but I'm like, if they guys are a Larson too, then now I'm looking at it a little bit more like maybe it is something. It's really good. And they get so many views and likes and I really do like. The only ones I like is people recreating and they use the sound, but real people do it.

Yeah, T, I can't endorse it. I thought it was just like a, she's so susceptible to things. So I was like, oh, these kooky people watching the watch and watching the AI. Sorry, Larsson seated. Because of you this morning, there was one that came up on mine and it's like Estrevino beating up a strawberry person. Was Atrovino real or was she animated? These people are, and she's like walking up the street.

She sees your crying strawberry and she like beats her up and things happen. That would be fierce if she did it and hired someone to like animate the strawberry. That would be fierce. She started to do a rebrand or something. Is AI? Yeah, because you got like canceled off of TikTok. Did she? Oh my God.

I mean, hers was crazy. I don't even remember. You don't know. I remember hearing about it at the time. I think via also I need to stop taking recommendations from Brooks Schofield I am so sorry book but she the day it was like I think maybe it was Monday morning I saw on she did a TikTok like sorry but I love Taylor Frangy Paul I am seated so who's at that Brooke Schofield and I'm like I that's not in my head I know Brooke schoolfield oh no brook oh no brook I think it was free it was okay she did another one day

I could have to watch because I you know I love Brooke but I can't watch it because she's like okay I'm gonna have to be another pick me for a second because no like my take on Timothy Chalme but I fear I have another one I was like, no, no. No. I was up and see the cut on the wrong side of the discourse. Girl, you ate with the in and out. Like, you were all correct on that. The internet order was diabolical.

She loves to be on the wrong. She loves to just take the hot take every time. And I'm like, I get it once or twice, but I'm like, girl. I can't. I couldn't, I couldn't do it again. I was like, we support you. Especially because I didn't know Taylor of Ricky Pollock last. So I just took her word for it.

And then all this got under North and I was like, oh, like, I need to just. That's why I made my stance clear. I don't think I can support Taylor Freeman. Well, although she had a turnaround, yes, me, May. But even them, we're, we're kind of deep into it. Like, strikes, a couple of strikes doing the same thing as like, oh, my girl, like. Yeah. Because she said something on Mormon-wise about, like, obviating.

Like, she's trying to have another baby with Dakota. Like, oh, you know, I'm ovulating this day or something. Like, girl, let's relax because it's not, this is not healthy for anybody, but specifically children, like, their parents and stuff. It's like, you know, not to be that person, but you are, that is your whole brand, too, is like kids and my kids come first and it's like okay well let's think about that I think that's what a lot of people think about I think and again I think it does come from a place of like people caring I know some people like we care about the kids and they just make up or something

but if it's like we see something happening you know what I mean like it's there is there is I think people can care about kids in the world you know anyways wow I knew it was serious when Cinebon could sponsor the other text and again I think yesterday has like clamming we're doing a Photoshoots like that. You're in a busy day. And I was like, no, she's got to know this. She lost in the bond. We were in the garage.

That was like my 9-11. I was like, TFP lost in a bond. Ha ha ha ha ha. Always that was we need to eat Cinnobon in solidarity. And I just put like a thumbs up. But I'm like sweltering. It was like 100 degrees in the garage. We're doing a photo show on a roulette table.

And I'm just like dying. I was like can't. And I was just like, oh. And I was like, oh my, I almost passed out. Then I saw the Cinnabon. And I was like, what is happening? Sinabon has pulled out. Yes.

Sinanban people's eyes. You know what? They, you know, respectfully, that might be the right decision. They're a family-friendly brand, you know. I do love the Sinneubon. Oh, that took me out. I was like, damn, it was serious. E.T. was like getting a statement from Sinabon.

The girls were boots on the ground on the case. How do you get a statement from Sinabon? They just reached out to Sinnebond headquarters. But like, they call the Topanga Moms. Like, let me talk to someone. There's a Sinnebon AI that talks to you back. That is kind of crazy. It might be just, I wonder, yeah, who gave that statement?

Everyone's got a little PR person, you know. Sinan has PR. Corporate PR, yeah. That's where it's out. Really? Yeah, don't go into entertainment PR, go into corporate PR. That's my advice to any aspiring publicists. Entertainment is...

Entertainment is nuts. But, you know, corporate PR, benefits are better than pay us better over there. That's my advice. Like the CEO of McDonald's, like, no corporate PR for McDonald's was, like, stepping in. You know what I mean? They're like, we don't care. We're McDonald's. Couldn't care less about this.

I guess that is a good segue to the Jake Shane follow-up, which is now. Yeah, this week has been Jake Shane and Taylor Friedman Paul and people just being so upset by the ways. Like, no, I stand 10-nosed out for Jake Shane. Like, he's the funniest. And then other people just being like, yep, everyone's ruining the world. Like, it is crazy. Yeah. Everyone's coming in a little too hot, especially Jake Shane because I think.

One comparison to Taylor-Frank Paul. I mean, yeah. Like, it's not that big. But Variety wrote an article. And it kind of was like, to me, I was like, oh, damn, this kind of like a Jake Shane hip piece almost. thing it was it just came across like that because it was so like I agree I saw I saw people call it hip piece and I was like I don't know this doesn't feel like malicious it was kind of just reporting and I think it was such a hot topic um but variety this same company that no vanity fair is the one

that hired him yeah like wait a minute you hired him and now yeah that would be so crazy actually yeah it was a variety uh published an article uh Jake Shane's questions at the vanity fair Oscar party prove influencers shouldn't be red carpet reporters. And it really went in to the whole exchange, both between him and Chris Jenner and then his bit about the kid from if I had legs, I'd kick you. And how it's basically like devalued the red carpet reporting. But yeah, really went in on him. And I'm a little bit horn, I guess, because I do think it was like a bad bit.

I do think, as Tauti Westberg said, time and place. And, but I do think that there is room for influencers on red carpets, though. And then I had the awakening. I think the first time Variety did this was Tyler Oakley. Oh, well. In 2016, like having an influencer be like a reporter for the Vanity Fair Oscar party. Was he? I think so.

For Vanity Fair? 2016. I remember Ellen. He did something with Ellen. I didn't know if he. Yeah. And I remember vividly because I was a part of that team to get him on the very bad. I forgot.

You were a tired of Oakley and theater. Well, everyone did love him back then. Everyone did love him. He was the Jake Shane in 2016. Yeah, exactly. He was on Ellen. And my, basically when I got hired to Access Hollywood, the guy who got me that job was also, he was advising. I guess I forget his actual title, but advising like NBC on their social media because

like they were just starting it. and also Vanity Fair for theirs around Oscars. So they were doing a whole bunch of influencer stuff. And our thing was like, oh, they should have like somewhat an influencer also like do some of the interviews. And we're like, oh, Tyler Oakley. Yeah, that was more back then. So I, the lore that I was also had that scene of the crime and then it kind of perpetuated and kept going. Did you suggest Jake Shane?

No, I didn't have no involvement in this one. You kind of did. Clocking back to August 2023 or second or third episode. We're like, octopus lover? You have to. He's the next big thing. You planted the seat for everyone. T, I guess so.

mind you he was already gigantic at the time i never know who he was i remember he said that was who that i knew you have to get him on he's like the new he's gonna be really big even after like he's gonna be big i was like mom and he is he's big right um but yeah i think he is he has like a charm and he does really good interviews on therapist i to me like if i were to give any like you know criticism looking back like in retrospect i would say i think where they went wrong is having just all three influencers and only three influencers. Yes. Because this event specifically, like the Vanity Fair Oscar party, it is every like A-lister.

It's like the A-List event, like the highest talents, like the biggest celebrities. Except for Serena. The best like actors, the best producer and musician. Like it is just the highest, it's the biggest event. Like it's the highest esteemed event. And also like they get more access to the celebrities than every other outlet that is there. Like every other media outlet that's there, we had a wait because it was live stream. So it was, we couldn't break any of our stuff out until like 15 minutes after like they got interviewed by J.

Quina Brittany. So they were just given such priority. And also like so many celebrities like would skip all the other outlets, but then just go and do vanity fair because it's the vanity fair. It's their event, you know. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Because like usually like wicked, there'll be like a whole lineup. And I was there with Access, even though Axis had, like, their journalist.

And I was, like, next to them. But then every other person was, like, at the end. It was, like, a long line that you had to get through. Even Variety was, like, at the end. Yeah. It wasn't, like, in the front. Oh, that's interesting. So I think that's why with this one, like, they were the, like, anchor.

Like, they were the ones that all the, the big names. The big names would skip every other outlet. And all the other outlets would have to fight to kind of get, like, a quick moment with, like, a Michael B. Jordan or, like, any of these stars. Did they interview Michael B. Jordan? Quickly. Like, oh, they got, like, pretty much everyone. Like Quinn, Jake, and Britain, who did one of them?

He came really late, so I don't know if they stayed. Because he came, like, at 1230. They might have got in. But they got, like, Kendall Jenner, like, Haley Bieber, Paul Anthony Kelly. Like, they wouldn't do any. Where are those interviews? I haven't seen those at all. They've been, like, they've been clipped on TikTok and stuff.

Oh, are they good? Are those good? Is that why they're not as viral? Like, they're just. The Paul Anthony and Kelly one was viral because, um, Quen was, like, in love with him. Oh, right, right, right. But, yeah, I guess true. The ones I see are the ones where it's like,

either awkward or, yeah, some weird exchanges. But, um. So there were some good ones. If Haley Beaver was there, you know, there's obviously some good ones. Yeah. And I, and I, and I'm like, we Jordan has that not viral. I'd be like, oh, they're, and they also have the advantage of, like, a lot of them are front, like, Jake is friends with Haley and Kendall.

And I think Quinn also knows them as well because she's modeled, like, at all the shows. Right. And I was, like, seen them before. So, like, that works their advantage for sure. Um, but yeah, I think because they have such priority, they were getting such good access. They got everyone was coming to them. No other outlet could break their interviews until theirs were done. That's kind of where they went wrong by not having like someone just with more experience to help like keep it a little serious.

Like it was also insurious for like a big exclusive A list events. That's a good point. Yeah, they should have maybe, yeah, divided them up really instead of throats. But it's also not like everyone's so mad at Jake. but... Yeah, not his fault. Yeah, like, obviously, and I feel like anyone,

if they got the opportunity, they're going to be like, well, yeah, of course, yeah. No, definitely a dumb comment. I'm surprised you didn't say anything on that because I just feel like, kind of like what Miley Cyrus said when she apologized for her 2008 cover of...

Was it a Vanity Fair? I think it was, actually, with the sheet, right? Yes, always at the scene of the crime of vanity fair. So, like, she had to said recently, like, she apologized because she just thought I would, like, you know, cool down everything, even though she didn't think she had anything to be sorry for.

And I think that's, like, maybe something to be. said here? I feel like if you just acknowledge like, that was kind of like a, that was a bad joke or something like that. Like, I think people could get over it. Yeah. Because it was like, like, I think it is, like, that was like diabolical. I think there definitely should have been like discourse and discussion about it. Does like, like, like, all this is that worthy of that.

I don't know. I don't know if it's like, I guess, like, uh, yeah, I guess it does just like people who just don't like influencers are just like, well, influencers shouldn't be. Yeah. I think it's like a reckoning of like people being sick of influencer culture. Also, I feel like Jake Shane has not had any like just, does. really have many missteps. So I think also people who just have like a little bit of resentment towards him because of his success are also jumping in.

So it's like a mesh of like people who are sick at influencers, people who just don't like him, like really piling on and making it bigger. Well, yeah, I'll echo Jimmy. Hopefully it's okay. You can put this in. If not you can cut it. Jimmy said something that he thought a little homophobic because it was Jake's chain specifically when like, not to say obviously, Jake had that misstep with that question. Obviously, like that was so dumb. but um you know Conan o'brien's comments to brittany being like what are these questions and like

when jimmy said it i was like i didn't read the article at the time so i was like i don't know not to throw an investor me i mean i agree with you i agree that maybe there is sometimes because i'm not a gay man i can't see that but i also as a lot of it comes from other gay men towards jake and i think it is like a lot of internalized homophobia it is similar with like a chris olson yes um i think with like gay influencers a lot of the hate comes from other gays jordan first man Yeah, it's like why not like, oh, well, that's, that could be me. Almost like it's like a jealousy kind of thing. I think Jordan Firstman, when they did that thing about the whole heat of rivalry, it was, I want to say it was a gay guy that wrote about it or something like that.

And so, might be wrong. But yeah, like, yeah, that makes sense. And like, again, I didn't see it through that lens, but it is because you're like, why is he getting, not to say other people should get the hate? I do think the hate's a little like much. Yeah, I agree. I think I would just put out a little thing and be like, oh, that was a bad joke. You know what I mean? That was like not it.

And he says it so funny. whatever. I guess he has a podcast, so I guess he, I guess they probably already filmed it for Netflix. I guess it doesn't do it like in real time. Yeah. So he's just posting?

Because Taylor Frankie Paul was like just posting normally after the whole news drop. I wonder if he's just like at and out. You know what I mean? Just like. Doing his little skits or something. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that's good if he is. I mean, you know, whatever. Keep moving. I know. I complain a lot.

But doesn't this feel like a ridiculous place to place a TV in a hotel room? So yeah, he's put. He's like. And that's, and like, probably as he should. Because at the end of the day, not that serious. If it was me, I'd love to give a little quick apology if I offend anyone, you know. Yeah, T.

And I, I mean, it won't really affect him that much. I mean, he has so many famous friends. He has so many big projects that, like, he can really keep it moving. And I'm sure his publicist is telling him the same thing to keep it moving. Because it will blow over. No one cares next week, yeah. And also, I think. with the discourse, like, influences on the red carpet.

Like, it can be done. It can be done well. It's also, like, entertainment journalism is, like, dying. And that's my pet peeve, too. Like, even with E.T., they'll be like, why would you even ask this question? Girl, they're like, why don't you ask serious questions about the movie? And it's like, okay, the problem is y'all aren't clicking. Like, y'all ain't clicking.

Yeah. Yeah. Because those questions are asked in, like, this eight-minute interview about the character, whatever. But no one is posting, like, no one cares about that. No one is picking that part up. like it's the the more like memeable like lighthearted questions like go viral

yeah and they want those viral moments because the light we gotta keep the lights running because guess what the budgets keep going down down down the shows getting canceled the websites are shutting down like it is so like entertainment journalism is so cut through right now and no one barely anyone's getting paid like people are struggling for clicks and it's just so it's hard too

and it's like I get it too because now it's like influencers are taking the jobs of people who went to college who like interned who worked so hard for the opportunity and the opportunities keep shrinking and shrinking and shrinking so it's like the whole ecosystem is like thrown out of whack because it's like what the hell are we going to do now? Well everyone's going to be influencers now like there's people who have like law degrees and stuff I think a good example of it is uh giraffe wallo I think she did go to school for like journalism or broadcasting or something and so obviously she went and did that but like having that influencer background like she kind of started what I know her from his TikTok is obviously coming for

like diabolical men and just you know giving men back with they put out basically, but having that degree. So now her on the red carpet, because you never really see anyone like clip hers being like bad as she does a lot of them. She does every. She was at the Oscars. She was at the Oscars. She's everywhere.

And it's like very good. So I think that's like a good example of like what you're saying is like, yeah, it sucks. People go to college and whatever. But because times are changing, I feel like people might just go like straight to influence. I guess like college is good. Like to have that background is good. Like you, for instance, you're like, I don't think you're like irreplaceable in that sense

because you went to college. but then now you are in this influencer era. So it is like this like perfect like mix. And I think it's like, I don't know, some people just bypassing the college part and just going to influence her. And even if you don't go to school, like I think just like studying by just watching all the movies,

like understanding the cultural context of them. I think it's really important, like the significance. Like not just watching it, but really diving into all them. I think there's a reporter Kelty Knight. She's at e-news. I keep seeing this clipping. brought up now. She was at Enew.

She worked at E.T. I worked with her at E.T. an insider. But she was talking about like influence. She's like, I don't have a problem with them. But like you can't kind of like if you're going to work the Oscars like you need to have seen every movie.

You need to understand. That part's so true. Yeah. You need to understand why it's important. Like they need to understand their work. Like you can't go in and just make like a mockery out of it. Like you if you go into it at least show some respect for the craft. That was kind of her argument.

I'll get that to Jake Shane. He knew that movie because now I want to see the movie because I didn't know. But if she said, oh, if I had legs, I'd kick you, I'd be like, how is that movie? And he, like, knew. He knew there was a kid. He at least, maybe he watched the trailer. I don't know.

But, because, like, right. Yeah. I would have been paired. If I wanted to ask because I would have to know. That's why that women's a music thing I can't do because there's no possible way I can go through every woman's discography from 2026. I don't know.

Any music. So I was like, oh, my God, how am I going to, like, get the lore? It's why I, like, guessed even, like, freaked me out because the pressure of having, like, learn someone's lore in, like, 24 hours is. And then, yeah, on a red carpet, especially the vanity fair. I guess obviously they knew the people coming up because they had pre-approved questions. But, like, it's a lot.

I don't know. Yeah. So, yeah, I think it's just like intense. Like, you know, he didn't kill anybody. Like, you know, they act like he spit in these people's faces. Shoke someone with a necklace. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's like, it's a little much.

But even I see like plastic surgeons and stuff going on social media, I really do feel like, as someone too who's like, I don't want to be just an influencer. I want to be a TV show, talk show host. It's all dying. It's all dying. Like, nobody is renewing a TV show, syndication. Everyone's just coming to a podcast. Everyone wants a podcast.

Amy Polar. Like, everybody's just coming to the digital world. So it is this whole past. The influences are annoying. They're here. We're here. And like, that's it. I mean, it's just how it is.

And everyone's becoming an influencer. Even Ben Stiller. Did you see him selling Stiller Soda? I didn't see this. I didn't know that was happening. You didn't see it on Twitter? I did see you. You were showing me.

I think you said at Groku is this real. I think you confused Goku with Groh. Oh, because everyone's like, Groku is the Mandalorian. Oh, you said Groku that day. You said Groku. Yeah, you're like, oh, Groku is annoying. Yeah, but from what's his name, the mandoloreant, the little baby Yoda?

Yeah, Groku. Yeah, but Grok is the one that is, I think. Yeah. I think it's auto, spell check me. Hmm? Autorrected me. Oh, it changed. James Brock to Brodico?

Maybe. I don't know. I can't remember. Can't confirm her to deny. But at Groc, Groc, whoever we like, which everyone's not problematic. No, he was like, it's crazy because I, and I saw another one. My whole thing is Ben Stiller right now. I saw another tweet today that's like, maturing is realizing Ben Stiller was never funny.

And look, people are getting a little too hard on him because he came out with a new, like, basically one of those sodas that don't, you know, it's like healthy sodas. It's called Stiller's soda. And he gave like a Shirley Temple flavor and stuff like that. But he went to go do promo. Whole Foods and like nobody like he's standing there with his Stiller Soda and like no one's coming up to him so someone's like recording him for far away and he's just like standing there like waiting for people to come up to him and then he sees someone the person filming and he's like hi

and then the person keeps filming and he's just like Stiller Soda like but no one's coming up to him which is crazy because I'm so millennial I'm like old I'm like mid millennial I guess but like Ben Stiller was like oh my god like my brother thought he was so funny like Zoolander oh my god they thought that was like the funniest ever and it's like wow it's crazy that like yeah nobody cares anymore. It was like during Dodgeball, people would go so wild for Ben Stiller. But even he's trying to get the influence route.

He's trying to get a drink. Everyone has a drink. Ben Stiller's trying to do a drink. I mean, he has severance. That's what Tiana said. She's like, I love severance. I was like, what does that mean? Like, is he created it?

Did he write it? So why is he talking soda? It's a show he created, but it's not a funny show. So, I mean, you can still say. He's not funny. He's not funny. So why is he making soda if he has a big show? I don't know.

That part seems. a bit odd. Maybe he's passionate. His reps did say his PR people said that he loves soda and wanted a healthy alternative. Yeah, it still sounds like a brand deal. I mean,

maybe he's like, he's like, look at prime, look at all those people making a billion dollar company out of nothing. And he wants to get a billion dollar. I want to do a drink. That would be fun. I'll do a healthy soda too.

I would do sparkling water like Lecour. I would want to do like a really, like, back in the day, they had really good sparkling waters. I guess plastic is like killing our environment. But it used to be in plastic and it had like raspberry. Do you remember those? Yes. It was like clear with like the, yes.

What was that brand? I forget. My mom used to get them all the time. There was like a Desani version of it, but it wasn't DeSani. Yeah. It was like clear a clear label, but then like the color, like a purpley raspberry color. Yes.

Or there was like a yellow one for the lemon. Yes. My mom used to get those all the time. My mom did too. That is so funny. It's considered like healthy. I was telling most it's all the water we used to drink. like we never drink like regular water we'd only drink like sparkly waters even when i met moses all i had was lequois i never once drink water out of a faucet filtered water sparklet water nothing like it's

actually i look back and be like why was my skin so bad besides the math it was also like i wasn't like i was also like i was also like i was also like i was like i did the other day he was like oh my god i like go to the hospital my dad's like in really good shape like walk six miles a day i was like what was it and he's like oh they just told me and you drink more water and it was like you guys drink water honestly it kind of changes your life um also always has like a gallon with him. That's true. I love it.

I think it's dehydrated. That is a... Do you drink all that? Yeah, I drink the two or three a day. I'm supposed to don't pee more. I do pee a lot. Not during the podcast. You never get up.

I think because I'm like so locked in that I forget, but if I think about it. Like at the movies, I go like, at the movies I go like four times during a movie. Oh my God. I always gets mad at me. Because I'm also in the recliner or so it'll be like a quiet scene. It's like squeaking as I'm like getting out. That is annoying.

I'd be like, sit down. Hold it to the end. Diapers. That's where you need the diva diapers. What are your diaper line called? Oh, Trisha. Diva diapers. Diffle apples?

What do you say? Diffle apples. Dipple apples is good. That's what my butt looks like. The other day I was looking. Oh, my God, dimpled apples. That's what it should be called. That's so cute.

Okay. Did you say that? That's what I said. What did you say? What is your shirt say? I just noticed that. What is that? I love it.

Well, it's the transition. out of St. Patrick's. Oh, you're still in the green. It was like the green transition into something else. And I felt like it was, I was doing some gloving this morning. Oh, in Malba wore doing gloving in here early. I came in and Malta was like, I was like, I was doing gloves with Abba. And I was like, oh, she didn't want to leave though. She wanted to stay. I was like, no, you can't bring her. Because she like loves. She wanted to sit in here. Oh.

Just hearing about Mormon wives. Your rant, your opening rant would just be like her sitting there behind you. She was seated behind you too. And I was like, ah. That is so funny. I'm so bad to stay in here. I'm like so sorry, but we got more than wives to discuss. Why can't I just see that gloving? TikTok. Do you like steak?

I don't really like red meat that much. For fish. Are you chicken mostly? Yeah, mostly chicken. Oh, I used to only eat chicken. You don't eat burgers? I prefer like a chicken. I'll occasionally eat a steak or a hamburger, but typically chicken or like a turkey

burger. I want to get those big stakes from pavilions. That's why I kind of want like a big, a big. The tomahawk. Someone made it for their like three-year-old for breakfast. I saw that. Ah, I was going to end with eggs on it too. I was like, I want that.

Do you think the Michael B. Jordan in and out was sponsored? It's kind of like a thing where people who win go to in and out after. It's like kind of a common thing. You don't think he was paid. So it must be a common sponsorship. it. Maybe. Moses convinced it was paid.

I don't think it was. Well, I mean, that's a big thing to do if you're not. But In-N-Out never sponsors. And like you said, it's kind of just like a thing, right? Like it's just a viral moment. Like, he didn't have your swing to it. And like another guy did it like a year or two ago. I forget who.

Neil Minam was there. He didn't win anything, but he was there too at the In-N-Out. See, yeah. I think because it's so close to the whatever the theater is called now. The Dobe Theater. Yeah. And it's right down the, okay. I know, I kind of thought after I win my Aheart Radio,

maybe I'll go to in and out and just sit there with my award. But do you think people would care? How did all those people, do you think all those people knew he's going to be there or they just happened to like be like gag that he was there? I think some people wait there in the hopes that like celebrities come out from there and then go to that in and out because it is like a common thing that happens. I wonder how you got that booth? Well, I think an Oscar winner comes in.

Oh, they make people get up? I would think. I would be like, take my booth. They definitely talk to somebody there to let them know where they're coming because just to show up with security and, you know, block the whole place out. We go to in and out once a week and we sit in there and eat, and it's so hard to get a booth. Like, we have to hover over people to like,

do you go into and eat it? Sometimes the line is long as long as I'll go in and order it. Okay, yeah. Those boothers only like, thought for. I never did before. That's why I was like, oh, did you? Because I never met anyone that goes in to eat, but we love it now.

It's like it's such a vibe. But you do have to like hover over people. Otherwise, people are going to get it. So you're just like kind of waiting for whatever. So I was like, how did he get that spot? That was a pretty good spot. And I'm just like taking pictures of it. It's kind of fun.

But I feel like I'd have to let people know, like, okay, I'm going to be at the In-N-N-Out after my award. Come see me. Maybe. Like, I wouldn't be surprised as someone from his team gave them a heads up. A little tip. Yeah. I like it. Yeah.

And that's why he was late to the Vanity Fair Oscar party because he went to In-N-Out first. I love that. Taylor Frank Paul was eating in-out, too, in her SUV. Did she see that one? Everyone was eating it. So I was like, it's a sponsor. I guess someone told me, I think Devin told me that they had a truck back in the day at the Oscars or at the Vanity Fair party maybe in an out truck.

Oh, it might have been at the Oscars too. Oh, yeah, yeah, because I think Denny Director also had it in and out. Denny director at the scene of the crime, too. He came for Jake Shane. Not that easy, is it? Is that what he said? He's not that fun now, is it? Oh, that easy.

That's crazy. That's what that. I know those people, because it's also, like, such a long day. Like, I feel for all, like, the actual reporters on the carpet because they have to get there so early. They're literally, like, they have no room. It's so tight. They're getting yelled at constantly. and you're just like standing there for like seven, eight hours waiting.

Like I think they got through like that maybe 1 p.m. They left at 1.30 a.m. Because they had to wait for everyone to come after the show. So I understand why they're a little resentful because they're fighting. They're literally throwing out. Michael, please. Yes. Yeah.

Kendall. Like they're fighting for their life for just one quick bite. And then, you know, Quinn, Brittany and Jake have it a lot easier. year in comparison so I get why they were a little more than full yeah I'm torn on that one too I am torn on that one yeah I go back and forth I just think people are getting a little too carried away with yeah one missed that doesn't entail a whole but like you said give a little bit and then like influences are ruining everything I'm a champion's a good example of a good influence of a good influencer interviewing I was thinking about her a lot lately too because she is in the

movie called forbidden fruits that's coming out in a couple weeks and she's been doing press kind of for that and also has she's a West Elm collaboration and also because she was on the Tonight show and I was like what is she even promoting because she's in she has a small role in the movie she is promoting Chamberlain coffee having another like location

and she was promoting West Elm but I was thinking about her because she is someone who went from like doing the interviewer stuff to now she's like the star yeah that's a that's a transition to do that's pretty impressive yeah it's it's wild that

she was able to pull that off and become just like it girl kind of like fashion. I think she had like really good connections. Yeah. Derek Blasberg was like a stylist like kind of took her under his wing and like gave her all the connects to all the fashion houses. So that's how she got really in with like Louis Vuitton and stuff. And then kind of took on from there, but took off from there. I'm sure I could be a fashion girlie.

You should be. Well, I don't think they like fat people. We know from Denver Wars. I saw a clip of like the original. We watched the original. I didn't really pay attention. I was out of like someone, she called Anne Hathaway,

like the chubby fat girl or something? Yeah. Crazy. I mean, that's crazy. And I get it's a movie, but like I feel like that's also real life. Oh, yeah.

The fanning sister is people were calling them fat at the Vanity Fair party. And I'm like, they are so skinny. Insane. Like, this is, it's all getting a little nuts. God,

they just want everyone to like literally like die from not eating. Like, not to be bronchic cry over here. But like, it is crazy. How does everyone needs to be so. It's weird because you're skinny shame, but then you also fat shame, skinny people who are this like,

and then fat people forget about it. Like, it don't even exist. Like, it's so weird. I don't understand. Sometimes I like not existing to people. But sometimes I wish I could exist to fashion people. You know what I mean? Well, the pendulum's going to swing

because everyone's going to be over skinny people again. They're going to be like, who's still big? Who's still big? Yeah, they cling on as if you're like the last one. I do feel unique in that way. I'm ready for all my roles. Where all the fat rules go? They just stopped writing fat rolls

Because everyone's so skinny Like you never see a big actors Can't anything I guess Yeah huh I guess maybe now they put them in fat suits If they need some a little bigger Back to Shell Hell days

Me and Jack Black That's it Oh he's hosting us in all this week Jack Black and Jack White Or maybe next week Yeah he has Mario coming out The Mario movie What is that?

The Super Mario Brother King Oh What's he in it? He's Bowser Oh God that song is annoying I love Jack Blackwood That was like odd repeat in our house I hate it

It's so annoying And all the kids love it I don't like that song I don't know if they love it I think they love There's just one part that is Preaches Preaches, preaches,

I love Jack Baggie I can't I don't like that song I am very excited for the drama now I'm scared that it's gonna get spoiled Because now people have seen it Wait have you seen Have you read? Because now people have actually seen it

Because the premiere is last night This is spoiler. I'm sure now because people have actually seen it. I want to know what the secret was. I think we cut a segment a while ago. I asked everyone here, what's the secret that could ruin your marriage? And everyone's like, and I was like, I think Jimmy was here. I was like, Jimmy.

And then I was like, maybe that was weird. Well, because I had just seen the trailer. And I was like so gagged. I was like, oh my God, what would the secret be that? Like he's like, I don't know if I can marry you now. And I was like, that's so crazy. I want to know. I'm going to spoil it.

Do not. Oh, my gosh. I know. Jimmy would be best. Okay. Well, I don't know it, but I am going to find out. I'm going to find out soon. Is it coming after this weekend?

Two weeks from now. The premiere was just last night. Zendaya kind of gagged me, though, because she wore her dress from the 2015 Oscars. The one where Juliana Arirondix said her hair smelled like patchouly. Oh. What? Do you remember that? No.

Oh, that's true. Juliana Ranik said that? Yeah, so Zendaya went to the Oscars in 2015, and she wore like a Vera Wing dress, and she had locks. and it was during fashion police Juliano Rancic like the next day they were talking about her dress and Julianna Ransomore, I don't like her hair it looks like it would smell like patchouly

Why is Variety Not Writing a Hip-Pie on Julia-Oranic, a journalist? Her career did tank up for that So. That's what I'm saying? Like, what do you mean? We're all mad at Jake Shane for saying that, but a journalist who was like the journalist of E-News

says that and no one is just like taking away her degree? Like that's so insane. There should be never be an argument again. Influencers should not be asking questions on the carpet. What do you mean? Just outwardly racist, offensive, like stereotype. Like, what do you mean?

That's so crazy. Oh, my God. That's crazy. I mean, the outreach is real, yeah. Even used canceled because of her. Oh, my God, that's insane. I think that was part of the downfall of fashion police. I forget how much longer it lasted.

It was fashion police. Yeah. And then the show was kind of disintegrating after that. That was a crazy thing to say. Also, somebody's smell is not fashion. Like, that's not even something you're supposed to assume. Yeah. And it's like this white silk dress.

And like that's what you think. That's why the side-by-side picture, because I saw the side-by-side picture. I just didn't know what it was about. Yeah. So she wore that same dress at the drama premiere because the theme of her like press tour for this was something old, something new, something new, something about, something blue. I love. So she wore blue at, I think Kimmel, it was. She wore something new at the Oscars, the brown dress.

and La Roach, when she wore that on Oscar Sunday, La Roach posted it. It was like, I heard y'all wanted something new from me and Z. He's so crazy. I love La Roche. And then something borrowed was the dress that she brought from herself because she keeps every look that they wear, her and La Roche have kept. Wow. Like, no one else is going to wear this. She can reference herself, which is so fierce.

Oh, I wouldn't reference it. I wish I could borrow it. You should cosplay. Hey. T. Yeah. They can sometimes pull pieces from the archive. Yes.

Why can't I? I know. Tana, let's say I pulled this Dolce and Gabana from 1995. I wish I could pull something from like Dolceingabata in 1995. Like that's so insane. Like I just like, ah, I would you just like wear it. What was it?

Like Kim with the Maryland dress pick? Yeah. That would be me trying to get his Dendaya. Kim, would they be stitching me into it? I'd be ripping it. be like, what the hell? She does look great. I do love that.

Yeah, she's weird. I don't know that's the theme. I didn't know that's the theme. Yeah. And she's really working because she's promoted Dune earlier that day. Then she had the drama premiere that night. And then the Spider-Man trailer came out today.

Wow. So she is. No euphoria mentions on the press tour. Did she? Did she? Did she? By Riety. About euphoria.

And she was like, yeah, like it was a crazy shoot. Usually I have like, you know, eight months to a year to film but I had to film it all in like in four months so I'm excited to see how it turns out girl

I love that no enthusiasm for that I'm like can't wait to see it I guess the only tea I have about Zendaya from Euphoria is I guess I shouldn't say the tea I do have a little tea but I guess not tea she's had a lot of security

I remember being like I saw a trailer I saw nobody right I saw nobody like I'm in a trailer like don't come out of this trailer. I mean, they didn't say that, but like, whatever. And then I had to go to hair makeup, and I remember seeing a trailer with, like, a lot of security. It's like, wow, it's a lot of security who's in there. And the driver's like, I can't tell you.

Love that. Yeah, allegedly. But there was a lot. As she should be. As she should be because. She is the moment. She is the moment. Yeah.

Yeah, you never know, like, especially me. Like, you just never know a randah just being like, hey, Zendaya girl, trying to get a clip or something, you know? Yeah. I don't know if it was her, but that's, you know. I just watched the show the O-A and she's in it and she has dreadlock so that's why it's a real shot like then. Over-Gaters Anonymous? No.

What's it for? It's just the name of somebody. O-A? O-A. I don't know if she was in that. Yeah. She's one of like... I don't know.

The person is kind of an angel, so... O-way, away. I think it was really like a sound, like that kind of like a sound. A sound. I was in the M-W-W-A-O-W-A song. They love a song. Away, away, away. We hear the hunting done.

Disney songs all the time. Oh, yeah, 24-7. Zootopia. Come on, Kong, get up. It's Andrew Zedda. I'm trying to learn the Spanish part. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. I wish I was in Sudopia.

I wish I was in that movie. I think you should do. Sing. Every time those damn pigs come up and sing, Mel was like, like, Mommy. But then she says, Abba. She says like, Daddy is the male pig.

And they're like, it's like kids today when they say, oh, mom and dad, you know. She's like, mom and dad. I mean, I don't have to be the pig. Because that's the star of the show in that moment. She doesn't even like the pig one because when shake it off comes up on the radio, she's like, is this the pig or is this the human one? Because she likes the, she's the pig version. The Taylor Swift version.

No, she doesn't like the pig version. Oh, she likes the Taylor version. Oh, I see. She says. And the pigs, it's crazy. Have you seen sing? No, I remember I went to upload an episode or something the other day. And it was like the video that popped up was sing all the songs.

And it was like, sing one, see two, all the songs. And I'm like, damn, they're really one. And it was like 40 minutes or something. That's so funny. I wonder why it comes out. I must be watching on my TV. It's Moses. But I must have it like on my computer or phone or something like I've logged in.

Or Moses, sometimes you're logged into just church on your phone. Maybe that's why. Yeah. Because I don't usually watch. And that's so funny. I'm like, oh. Here's the sing. Yeah.

Exposed. It's pretty good. I think it's Reese Witherspoon who sings Taylor's. Because I'm like, it sounds like Taylor's Swoon. Is it? Reese Weather Spoon. It is? She's the pig, yeah.

Why didn't they get Taylor Swift to do it? Because I think Bono is, like, his own song. He does. I guess, yeah, huh? They can just hire. But then wouldn't she have to... Bono didn't voice the character, just the song. You guys, all the camera shut off.

And Moses missed the most important tea ever. You missed it. We can't repeat it. And we can't. We don't like to recreate moments here. All of someone was like, shoot it. I was like, what happened? I thought we lost everything.

Yeah. Oh my god, you're panicked, panicked me. Oh, the Hannah Montana 20th anniversary special is coming up. And this, there's, Miley's been doing a little bit of press for it. But my favorite thing that has come out, and this is kind of oldie, but I kind of live, is the woman who made the wig for the pilot episode,

talked about how she got fired because Disney didn't like it. And everyone is like, girl, thank God you were fired, which is so funny to me. Oh, what? They're on the side of getting fired? I need you to see the wig that she did for Miss Hannah Montana for the pilot episode. Like, they put this 14-year-old girl in the-first-of-all, that eats. This does not eat.

That eats. That looks like, Dolly Caron, that slays. Obviously, they got picked up. Obviously, everyone's like, this is the smash hit. Like, that looks good. To me, it makes it look like, not Miley. Like, I was like, oh, that's pop star, Hannah Montana. People are crazy. No, no, now this.

What do they want? Now, we want this. Okay, that's when you get the money. Funny, that's season four more of my life. No, this is episode two. Well. When we fired her, we moved into a different direction. Okay, well, it was a pilot.

You know what I mean? Like, you get what you get. It's a budget. And she did an interview a couple years ago. She did say that this is what they told her. They just said big hair and bangs. So in her defense, they did ask her for something in that direction. She gave them what they asked for.

But I would have looked at, I would have like done, you know, the photo test and saw that this 14-year-old girl looks maybe 54 instead. She looks middle-aged. She looks Kim Solisiac, Real Housewives of Atlanta. Meanwhile, Jason Earl's 28 next to her. No one's saying anything about him being 50 and married. I'm not saying Miley looked old.

I'm saying this wig is like an old maiden type of wig. Because the wig is an old maiden type of wig. No. It still looks like a little girl in a wig. When you put my wig on Malibu, she looks like a three-year-old in a wig. And she looks like a 12-year-old in a wig. and that's okay. Like, the people are crazy.

No, if I went to the concert, the Hannah Montana concert, where I was cheated for her and the Cheetah Girls and saw her come out with this wig, I would be like, oh, that's not. That's not true. You'd be like, love, camp.

Like when Brittany ever comes out of a bad wig, we're gonna make it, when Kim's hair is awesome, oh, that's a thing now. We just go with whatever the pop girlies are serving us, and you would have too back then. I think this wind, sweat, big hair

just was not for her. I wouldn't know. I think it looked fine. episode. Everyone gets upgraded in a pilot episode. Like this is fierce to me. The chunky highlights, the bangs. Yes, of course that's so much better. That's Hannah. Wait for the glow up.

Give us the green light on the season and then we'll upgrade. Pick us off. Look at the first episode of Just Church. We're in yellow lights. Nothing's around. We don't know what's going on. Like, you know? You gotta wait for that budget to come. You gotta get those ads. You gotta get those promos.

So people need to relax. Oh my God. I love it. the perspective. Okay, work. Call her daddy's herself. Like, any first, anything, at first extent, like, all this stuff, you know, you get it when the money comes. All the Kardashians pre-money, you know what I mean? Before they got the budge, before season two of keeping up with the Kardashians,

they're looking, they look a little chopped. You know, that's a fair point. Yeah, everyone needs to calm down. I wish she did this interview with Variety, and she did say something I thought could apply to you. She was like, I was promoting the Hina Montana 20th special before it was even picked up. Because she learned from Dolly Park, and she's like, if you want something,

picked up, go promote it like it is. And I was like, that is actually so fierce. I love it. I'm so that. I am so that. Just start promoting like you're already doing it. You're on White Lotus. It could still happen.

Asia and my talk is, I'm like, you know what? And they just announced a whole new slew of cast members. You just never know. Wait until I get that call. You'll see me, I'll be popping up for two weeks, summer break. I'll be like, ooh, I got to go to France real quick.

Okay. Like, never give a Pope. Yeah. That's what you have. have to do it. You have to just say it. And that's how people see it these days. In the world of influencer, you just say something. It's like, oh, get Trisha. You don't know what I mean. Like,

it just happens. Because she was out there with the blonde with the blonde hair and the bangs, doing all these red carpets, promoting other stuff. And people were like, oh, it's just Hannah Montana. She's like, I can't say. I love it. I love it. I love it. That is the way you got to do. You should. That's like the biggest

if you watch The Secret, which is like manifesting 101, it's literally like just say that it's like it's already happened. Like, oh, thank for the $8 million in my bank account. You know, just say things as that already happens. I swear it's so real. I was like... I mean, I've been manifesting this sound bar for so long and it's here.

Is it? That light is blocking me. I can't see. I'm like, what? I'm like, right. That is crazy. That's a crazy soundbox. It's just like a lot.

They like it. Who likes it? People that see my camera. Oh my gosh The Baywatch finally released The cast photo that you were talking about So it manifested it I talked about it

They released it Yeah this was not what I saw This was not what I thought I saw on my mind I have to say The short length is Seven inches down to the knee On the boys And now that told me everything

I needed to know about this show That it's for the straights Yeah it's not for the girls Nor the gays Because That is wild. Why do you have Noah Beck who like is like everyone thirst for him? He's known for his body.

He's in his undies a lot. Like, why are you having him in shorts like go down to his knee on Baywatch? Yeah. You're a lifeguard. Like show a little quad. You know what I mean? Like even the original Baywatch they did.

Like the David Chokachees. He had like little ones and stuff like that. At least a five inch. You know. At least a five inch. Yeah. The seven inches is diabolical. I agree.

Jannie Wetzel with his like two inch. Come on. So good on me watch. That's what I was thinking. I was like, put Jimmy Wetzel out there. Jimmy, you post it. I know you do the stories, but posted a feed post. Red swim trunks.

With a little whistle around your neck. Hired. He was also Irish. I should have like shouted him out. Did you know that? Oh my God. He's like, Trisha just responded to my story and said, are you Irish? L-O-L.

He never said anything about it. He was out of the story. Did you know? He said that I specifically asked because I was like, why didn't you tell her you were Irish? And he was like, well, I did say, when he was interviewed on this program. Yeah, I think about his family.

Yes, and you did ask him if he was Irish, and he did say yes. So, oh, British, Irish, mostly Irish. You're Irish. This is a revelation we should have made on the main channel. Yeah, what's a very German last name? But my... I feel like you've asked a lot of times for like Irish people. Oh, it's commercial people.

Oh. And you never want to film me. On here on the podcast, you were like, why haven't you said anything about being Irish? Yeah. Are you Irish? Yeah, actually. Did you know? No.

And he said, He doesn't look Irish. He said he's been sending you Irish cultural things, songs, and food recommendations, and entertainment. I thought he just loved St. Patrick's saying like me. I was like, okay, thanks. And then he's like, my family's, I was like, what? Okay. I mean, that was crazy.

I was like, what? So, so sorry to not honor our food food food. That's what I said. I was like, Jimmy, like, you really should milk it. And I was like. Yeah. We talk about Irish people all the time. me has never, like, jumped in with an edit.

And I said, oh, hold on, on my mom's side, we're Irish. And I was like, oh, like, let me go in tomorrow and be like, oh, so Jimmy's dead mother was Irish. And I was like, Jimmy, I'm going to get you those Dior shamans. She's going to feel so bad for reparations that Jimmy Wetzel's going to have some Dior shamar collection. I'll get out.

Those glasses I got all in my life now. Most like they're in your purse. Elvis was trying to get them yesterday. When Tanna was in here and I didn't want to be that mom, it's like, don't touch mommy's stuff. But she was trying to get those. Anyways, shout out. Jimmy, happy St. Patrick's Day to you.

I don't know we had an average. That's why I kept the decorations up. Huh? We talk to the decorations. We talk to Ireland all the time. That's what I said. I was like he should have been here teaching us the Lord because he literally said he'll, they celebrate like his school would celebrate St. Patrick's Day for like three weeks in a row.

Oh my God. Because they're that. You grew up? Where do you grow up? Why are they celebrating in so long? What do you do every day? That's a good point. How many days can we learn about?

He said all the parents would drink and they would run around wearing green and That was like just to make beer. Wow. I get drunk. That's crazy. Tanna's assistant is Irish too, Meg. I don't want to assume because she's redhead. I'm also, I love I'm Irish or something.

Because she's happy St. Patrick's Day to me. And I was like, oh, happy. And then Tanna comes in at like 2 o'clock because she says, happy St. Patrick's Day at 10 a. m. And Mabel comes in and she's like, you know, she's like, happy St. Patrick's Day. And she goes, Mel, Tons like the St. Patrick's Day today.

I was like, girl. Like, it's like the biggest holiday of the year. Did you send me something? Or did Tanna? Or was it you? That one video was like, happy St. Patrick's Day. We really don't give a... It is not even a real holiday.

That was crazy. But also, so what I feel like promoting my non-Irish... You know me. I just love to be in a culture if I can. So far, the Irish people are not offended, so... We'll keep in there for a while until next year. Shamrocks are going into retirement. Raven Simone got a little bit of backlash the other day.

I'm interested to get your take, but I know you're not a true blue Disney girl. No. But basically she was on a podcast, and she got asked about, like, her Mount Rushmore of Disney Channel stars. And she said, I would say, me, Hillary Duff, Shia LaBuff, and Lee Thompson Young, who played the... Famous Chuck Jackson. Yes, exactly. He's the famous Chuck Jackson. I love that.

Did you watch it? Remember when we used on it? Brace, Bruce. I only remember it... Like, I remember the theme song. and I remember his face, but that's all I remember. I was more Nickelodeon until Lazy McGuire

and then I was full true blue Disney. Yeah, Judge Jackson was a little bit before Lise McGuire, so he probably was young. It was 1998 to 2001. Okay, so it was like 10, so you were like three? I was six, yeah. Yeah, it's like too young. But yeah, I would say him

because I knew right away. I was like, oh, I know exactly who that is. Because she was, I was a podcast with the Shade Room, And the interview was like, what about Miley Cyrus? Oh, because Raven was kind of stumped. Well, Raven was kind of stumped. She was really thinking she was like, Miley Cyrus. She was like, no, not Miley.

Oh, before she said everything. I, okay, I guess. Okay, I did see this actually. And I do get, now is it who came first? Is Mount Rushmore the first presidents or the most influential president? I think the most influential, I would say. Like the most, the ones that have had the most impact on the carry the network. Okay.

So then, yeah, probably Miley would be on there. That's what I think to you. I think it may be a generational thing where she's like almost like the founding fathers maybe. That's what I was thinking. Like you're like, oh, who's the OG? When I think OG Mount Rushmore, it's me smosh. I just seen. Oh, of you too?

Annoying Orange. That's my Mount Rushmore. But if you're talking about impactful, it's going to be all mad. It's going to be Mr. Beast and Ryan's toys and, you know, that he got. I don't know how he pronounced the first part of his name, but it was, you know, that's it. Yeah, I get what she's saying. Those are the first Disney Channel Superstars.

But Miley was obviously probably one of the most impactful Disney Channel. Yeah, for me, I would say Raven, Hillary Duff, Miley Cyrus. The fourth is kind of where I get a little stuck.

I don't think Demi's pretty impactful. I would say too. Is there anyone more than her? Because I think she's... I wouldn't even say... I wouldn't say Demi, I wouldn't say... Yeah, I wouldn't even say Selena, to be honest.

She's on Disney Channel? Yeah, was it. Waverley plays she was also in hannah montana she's in the hand of monta she has a cameo in the hand montana 20th special as well miley's head um i would maybe say um i think sweet life was pretty big because it got too it got a spin off after i might have to give it to zach and cody to dillian and cole she was like the queen she was sharp hey because she did get sweet life she got um sharp high school musical and she got finis and burb so maybe yeah just the girl like she was disney chanel She was Disney down.

Yeah. Maybe Ashley Tisdale. It would be... I think it would have to be someone from Sweet Life. Yeah. It was on so long. That's a big one. I watched it. Raven had a...

That's where, like, everyone came for, like, the crossover specials. Like, that's where Hannah Montana came to that show. That's a Raven had a cameo on Sweet Life. Like, Sweet Life was the hub. So that would probably be mine. Maybe Ashley Tisdale, yeah. Yeah. Deb Ryan?

she did make history I love it I would carve a little special like you know a smaller on the side a little thing I just love her memes

I love her interviews I think she is kind of Hey just say oh is that the show I kind of remember I didn't watch it I kind of remember it a little bit She was like a nanny

That's kind of when I was falling off Yeah She's the downfall of Disney Like her Because that next era She kind of came right after It was like her Then Dove Cameron was like right after too

Oh I don't know Um, a bazaard vark. Well, Jake Paul might have been the nail in the coffin for that one. Wasn't it, wasn't he getting kind of like problematic and they're like, kicked him off the TV channel? Yeah, T and poor Olivia Rodrigo. That was her show. Bizarre bark, sounds horrible.

All those shows sound terrible, like after the Hannah Montana Synocke. Like, it's like, dog with a blog. Horrible. Except, actually, I, maybe we just give it to Rady Rodriguez. Maybe we just add her. I know. I really want to make my life story. with her as a star.

She is really the queen. Like when I saw the GLAD Awards, like the one celebrity I had FOMO over was Rainy Rodriguez. She is so iconic. I haven't seen Rainy Rodriguez. She should have been at the Vanity Fair Oscar. Actually, no, I take it back because if Jake Shane interviewed Rainy Warburden, I'd be jealous.

I would be jealous. I would be jealous that he interviewed her. Everyone else is like you can take, but. For sure. Not Rainier Rodriguez. Yeah, I agree. Damn they. She could have been hosting.

Mac Gallup. Where is she? What is she? doing? I remember she had an interview with Grindr and at the Gladde Wars. I forget what she said. I think she just talked about like her gay fans and she was just like so sweet and like PC and like lovely. And I'm like, she was just like so nice. I forget what the answer was. But it was just so like I'm just so happy. Like I love all my fans. I love that they are, you know, recognizing the clips. Like it was just so nice and wholesome for Grindr. And they're adding all these sound effects and like and it's just.

And Rainey's just Stephen It's so cute And I'm like, this is fierce What a crazy question Because I get asked that question And Hillary Duff got to ask the question Like, oh, what do you think? It's like, I loved gay people

and I knew what gay was And I was like, and someone just asked me that question like two days ago for an interview and I was just like, what was your connection to queer culture as a kid? And I was like, I had a gay friend in middle school that wasn't out.

Like, I don't know. Like it was such a funny one And I was thinking immediately of Hillary Duff because I was like, I didn't know what gay was back then so I just had this a friend that was fun and then like later on east.

Yeah. And he just shared clothes. Yeah, yes. And he didn't want to be Dorothy. He did want to be Dorothy. We were, Wizard of Ozzy. He was always Dorothy as I was a scarecrow. And then, yeah, I remember one day, like, looking him up, like, literally 15 years later.

And he just had, like, a men's butt as the Facebook profile picture. And I was like, oh, my God, he's gay, you know. But it's such a funny. It's such a hard question. It's like, where does the, you know, love for gay start? I'm like, I don't know. It just happened. It just became a thing.

We're all magnetic drawn to each other. I don't know. It's such a funny one. It's just that invisible string. Like the diva connection. Like gays love divas. Divas love gays because the gays love them. Yeah.

Although I'm giving up on the gays because we're not nominated for best podcast on Grindr. We don't get invited to the. That's true. I was invited to Glad actually. I wasn't invited. Yeah. And actually very much. Like so many people were asking me like, well you come.

I should have gone. At hindsight, I should have gone. I guess I didn't know what it was. It thought it was just like a little dinner and I didn't realize. I was a gay award show. Yeah. She'll gone. When glad calls, you answer.

I don't know. I know. Next time. What's the stand for? Gays against. What is it? Against against Lesbian

Gayes And dudes Oh, gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation Oh, there was Against Against Defamation

Is that what it is The D? I was like drunk driving There is one for that Why are you laughing There is one Was that one? Yes

It's two D's I thought also glad Because there's another one Against drunk driving Mad Oh maybe I swear it was glad. That's so weird.

There's dare. What does their stand for? Drugs are... Are... There to say no. Drugs against... Recreational. Drug abuse, resistance, education.

Wow. Work. No idea. They gotta get better... Acronyms. Yeah, acronyms. O.A. It is overreeders anonymous.

I know that from Mike and Wally, they would always call it O.A. So I wasn't being funny. Well... I'm glad, please. I guess I should have gone to glad. Damn it. I'm so sad. That's where I f*** up.

I shut up. It was next year. No one told me it was gay. I would have gone then. Yeah, they should have specified, but exactly. I thought I was like, yeah. What did you think, happy people? I don't know.

I don't think I think. You know, you get invited to stuff. You're like, I don't know. Damn. Jules LeBron, have you seen her TikToks talking about? about like how becoming like a whole meme and like in a viral sensation kind of triggered her substance. Wow.

Yeah, she's been making this series on TikTok talking about how like once she got super viral for being demure and mindful, how like all that fame and attention started her going down like a difficult path of like substance addiction. Was it the negative or the positive? Like did she handle like any of it? just she could afford it yeah for the most part because she was like all of a sudden found herself in like all these events and like had all these connections and she was just like out so much it just like opened her up to like this world basically i think that's super valid and super like real

i think we see that with like famous people's kids yeah i think mild even talked about in that recent interview she was just like yeah of course i like dipped into drugs and alcohol like that's like you're around those people obviously like rob riner's kid and so like you know just like Like, I think, I think that I've always been like, rich and famous people are the ones that are like doing, obviously like whatever. But that's, you know, they're always dying of drugs and stuff. I get it. I get it. And she's around it.

It has the resources. Yeah. And I think it happens so quick too. I like that she opened up about it too because I feel like people assume that, I don't know, you get viral. It was like everywhere. Everyone was using it. I think Beyonce was sending her stuff, you know? So that like, you're so rich and everything is like great now after that.

again like the connotation of like being an influencer or whatever but it that kind of success so fast to someone so young yeah it can like just open it can trigger you it can make you go down like past that you never thought for yourself because it is so sudden so foreign so I can imagine yeah like so quickly and you are so big yeah when people get those like skyrocketing viral like moments yeah I can't even imagine where like everyone is using your thing and looking to you because she's on Jimmy Kimmel wasn't she on with Rue like just everyone's talking about you and that's a lot. When you're successful, it doesn't take away any pain or trauma you have from the past.

A lot of times people think, you know, once I'm successful, a lot of money, I'll feel better, I'll be happier. And it doesn't change that part. A lot of times it hurts even more. Yeah, we see, we see Bobby Altaf breakdown. We've seen Hoc2a girl, obviously. Like there is like those viralities, you know. She did thank Jenna.

for yeah she said that tana inspired her to go sober and open up and talk about it wow what the tina knows that that's like so cool that's cool yeah she inspires a lot of people to do that which is like an amazing thing that's good so she's sober jules is sober right now yeah oh i love that we were supposed to meet up in chicago and yeah i know she just like last minute couldn't do it or something um i've always loved her i supported her that's good at least there's like a happy ending at least she's like sober and i think it's like a never earning journey for sobriety but yeah and also

It's good to open up. I think everybody wants fame and stuff right away. It's like sometimes you don't know how to handle it. Sometimes the money, like, where does all the money go? And people like drugs, you know what I mean? Yeah. I think about that. With some of my money, you're just like, oh, my God, like, drugs are expensive.

And then you're buying other people drugs. And it's just like a whole thing. And then you just don't show up to work. You stop working. It's like, it's very dangerous. I know. I think, too, it helps. It's like almost like a cautionary tale, I think, too.

Yeah. I think of the Staples Batty. Have you, I think I sent you heard TikToks a while. A while. I love the Staples, Patty. Oh, I love her. She works on Staples and she's a doll and she's fierce. Oh, I love.

And she just made TikToks at work at Staples, just about the company. She's like, if you want to get something printed, come on. Like, she just made these, like, hilarious TikToks at Staples. And she became super viral. And luckily, like, Staples, like, is giving her flowers and, like, is, uh, they, like, send her, like, special packages. Because she got, she is getting so viral that, like, all, a sudden that everyone wants to go to Staples.

Did she quit her job? No, she's still working on Staples. But now she is getting, like, she just got a P.F. Chang's brand deal. And I was like, this is major. I'm so happy for her. That is major. That is huge.

Oh, my God, I love that. She's getting all these brand deals now. And she's making, like, club appearances and stuff. And I love it because she just seems so sweet. I love when brands recognized. The one who did the Dr. Popper jingle, too. Like, it started on TikTok and then Dr.

Peter paid her to use the jingle. I love that. Yeah. Wasn't there someone, wasn't there someone? Was it like a donut? Like someone who, reacted like had a viral like was it Duncan Donut or something and then Duncan used it and like didn't pay her or maybe it was crispy cream or something I forgot um I don't know yeah so I like

I like when they give them the companies give them the flowers as they should yeah it's not just free I mean it's for promotion but you don't shall pay was it the remember the cranberry ocean spray guy too that would be like a skateboard yeah skateboard drinking the ocean spray they like put them in a commercial yeah they should yeah yeah yeah yeah uh period uh monetary I want you to interview the staples batty at some point but she's in New York But if she ever makes, girl, if you ever make an appearance here in L.A. Because I love her. And Oscar's dream.

She kind of has my new dream guest. I'm in mine too. I haven't seen you yet. I can't even live. I didn't even live. I would. You know me. I love that.

Because also we talked about just like interviewing people with like current real work experience. And I should feel like she's so many tales now. So I have a question about Staples. And they saw that button. Do you remember? I love that button. Did we have it here? We have the shade button.

We have the shade. Oh, my God. I love that you remember that button. Love that button. I just found the shade button in the garage. In the garage? Yeah. I found the like smarter than a fifth grader thing in there.

That is funny. That's so funny. All the stuff in there. Are you looking for it? Do we have it? That was easy. Oh, like a custom button. Malibu probably took it.

She loves those little buttons. I see them everywhere. Moses did one. He recorded over it and when Malbu pushes it's like Malbu go to bed. She always pushes it at night. That is so funny. And she always pushes it. I'm like, all right, time for bed.

I do love those buttons. This is our fun. Oh, I have some hot relationship tea. Your relationship tea? No. Someone very viral. Punch the monkey has a girlfriend. How do we know?

Real or blow up one? Does she know? That's true, yeah. And he is quite young. How old? I mean, he was just born. Yeah, a few months ago. Oh, damn.

But there's videos of the two playing, and tugging at each other's tails and stuff and wrapping their arms around each other. How do they know it's a girl? I think the zoo has confirmed it's a girl. How do they know? And her name is Moe. It's the fame, you know?

She saw the fame. Yeah. Moe and Punch. Munch is like that. Munch. I love that. You know, how long do monkeys live? I'm trying to think of like timeline.

Is this appropriate? Or are they like five years? And it's like, okay, I guess they have to get going. He actually see the life span Don't live that long, I don't think I feel like everyone's monkeys Like Michael Jackson monkey passed away Well, I think that's

People don't have He had a little zoo He had a little zookeeper Yeah but still there's more chances Accident disease or something They live 20 to 30 years And they had to start mating at one I don't even think he's one

I don't even think he's one I'm saying months He's muntil is the Aquaman's age Like for monkeys Yeah because he was born The same time. Yeah, July 26. Right.

So. So he's eight months old. I guess is that normal for like animals? I mean, we're animals, but like non-human mammals? Maybe. Oh, I don't like that. Let them be kids. That's weird.

All right. Well. They're just monkeying around. Oh. Oh, monkeys begin to meet around three to eight years of age. So yeah. Oh, it's really. Okay.

So they're just friends, everyone. girlfriend is crazy I hate that is kind of a little bit of a pet peeve I won't say I hate it but I kind of hate it like when people with like a three year olds would be like oh there looks like they have a crush boyfriend girlfriend

I'm like they're three like I hate that or with like baby boys oh he's gonna be a heartbreaker it's like no he's gonna be a stand up guy he's not gonna do any of that like that's crazy but I noticed that she doesn't value

but the gym classes they'll be like oh I got a little girlfriend like no they're three weird like I'd hate that so much it's so weird like commenting on kids up so with monkey and or munch as we will call them like probably just friends because they're months old they're eight months kids just having friendships with different genders or whatever kids and monkeys tea everybody he could be gay and that's her gay best friend that's her that's her high school friend that she didn't know she's like he's fun he just love playing with my air and putting yeah and painting my nails like what

That's normal. And it is. Should be normalized. Mel be married or hairstylist. You just never know. So. As far as love stories, because she influenced you to see the Mormon wives,

but you influenced, like there was a clip that came up on my TikTok and I wasn't going to watch it, but then I watched it from 90-day. And it's like kind of a masterpiece. What, who is it? The girl with the wigs. Lisa.

Like she gave a speech, and I was like, I was inspired. I had goosebumps. Okay, let's hear. It might be a little long, but I think it's working. Oh, wow. How long is it? We got time, yeah.

Where are we going? I love how we also in silent watching this like. Listen, I'm telling you the truth before we talk to your uncle. I want it all out. That's why I said I needed another day. I wanted you to know everything. I'm trying to tell you who I am. Jesus Christ.

I'm not a lesbian. I'm not straight. I'm not bisexual. bisexual I just believe that people should love people people should love people by their soul and people should love people for who they are on the inside not on what is on the outside I think there's anything wrong with that I mean I heard that I was like wow she almost close to identify his water or something you know she's like well she knows that people should love people not water no but she's saying nothing then to find the outside like there's

nothing other than the soul or the spirit like oh god yeah Intextually, she did lie about being a lesbian in Nigeria. It is like, specifically in their tribe. It's like illegal to be gay. And she lied and said that she only practice, she doesn't practice lesbianism. That's too specified. She said she only did it one time, but she had four other wives. Four other wives.

Four ex-wives. Actually, still married to a woman. That's the Mormon I want to see. Mormon wives, four wives and something. And she got engaged still married to a woman. And then so the two episodes prior, she finally admitted that she was, that she is currently married, but in the process of separating. And didn't tell him that she's married to a woman.

Just he assumed it was a man. And then now she's finally admitting she has only been with women. And that's why he's freaking out. And also there's one really good line where he goes, he's doing like the interview with the producer. And he was like, I'm just so confused. I thought white people didn't lie. And I thought that was a.

I know. Wow. Turned to the Secret Lives and Mormon. Yeah. I was like, I don't think he sees the news. I think that is the main culprit. If only you knew, Daniel.

If only you knew. Well, you know, she's identified as lesbian. It was crazy, though, because then he, like, gives, he's like, his hands are shaking and gives the ring back. He says, you are evil from your head to your toes. She does give a little demonic. She is diabolical for sure, but she gives good TV. I'll tell you that much. And at least not on the Taley-Frankie Paul level.

That's true. Right. She's just lying about being a lesbian. Yes. She just loves. I mean, she's, yeah. She just loves. So are they done with their story?

Are they following her back to the U.S.? Well, in the next episode, we see what happens after that. Because he does get the ring back, but now he's like, well, maybe I can give her and we can be together again. What are his motives? I guess we'll find out. Wow. Does he want to come here or do they want to stay there?

I think he wants to come. to America. I think all of the Nigerian couple I see, I don't think one of them perhaps come over to America because it's like really hard for them in Nigeria. Yeah. Because even Michael and Angela who were together like for so long, like he never made it over here.

And I was like, poor guy. I was with her for like 10 years or something. I think it's like weirdly hard for them to come over, which is. There's certain countries that America makes it harder for them because a lot of people come to work here from there. Why don't they just let anyone come work here?

I don't understand that. Like why do we have borders? Tea. I feel like Michael Jackson was here. This would not happen. Do you remember? Like. Oh, like, we are the world?

No. They're like, all I can say is that Martin Luther was living. He would not let this be no, no skinhead, deadhead. Everybody gone mad, situation, aggravation, everybody, allegation in the suite, on the news, everybody, dog food. All I want to say is that they don't really care about us. You don't remember? No. What?

It's a great song. Tell me what has become of my life. I have a wife and two children who love me. I am a victim of police brutality. Well, that's not me, but that was Michael Jackson's again. I better stop. But anyway, Michael, let me just stop. Michael, it's an empowering song.

Watch the Michael Jackson version, not my first. But it's a good, I remember when it came out. It was on the history album, and I was maybe like nine or something. And I remember just seeing that. And it's him in Brazil, just like, ah! He has the little, like, Oladolome's shirt on. And I just remember being, like, so even not knowing at nine, just feeling, like, empowered. And I feel like it's still very relevant to this day.

And he said it. He's like, his Rose about was living he went. And if Michael Jackson was living, this would not be happening. But yeah, we are the world. Because I, like, serious, serious. Why do we have borders? Like, what are we keeping out other humans? Like, this is a world.

I don't think it's like who, the big bang created, God created. Like, this is a world. It doesn't belong to anybody. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, that's what's so. crazy. I just understand. Like, you don't come here. It's even like, like, we go down to like, you know, San Diego all the time. It's like Mexico, it's literally, you just step over. It's just another piece of land over there. Like, you know, vice versa. You just step over. It's the same thing.

It takes a human one second to cross a border. It's actually so crazy. Like, I just never understand that. And it's like, oh, don't come over here and work, but why not? It's all about who's going to, who you're paying your taxes do. The people in power fight over it and they want. because we're like cattle we pay like we're the product we pay taxes so tax them somebody takes that money and no but that's where the border is where do I stop

the people I tax from the people you tax how about tax nobody well that's probably easier yeah tax them I guess tax Jeff Bezos you know what I mean tax tax tax them don't tax just like people working that's that I don't understand it either is like when you get that paycheck right and it's like oh I made

$400 this week and then it's like all the taxes are taking out and it's like what What? Who's that going to? Like, why are you taking that out? Then you're not making that money. That's so weird. I just understand it. Like, just pay the people what you...

If you owe me $10,000, pay me $10,000, not $5,000. The thing is that you keep getting taxed, you know, like, so let's say... I know. You pay your taxes. Now you have your money. You already tax? But now you're going to buy something, and there's a tax on the thing you do buy. And you buy a car.

And you get a license. You pay a fee, and you pay a fee for your license. So as it is, you pay a fee everywhere you step. Every time you spend your money that you already pay taxes for, you're getting taxed again. So at the end of the day, you really get left with very little of what you actually made. It's like those duty-free stores at LAX. It's like everything should be duty-free.

Just like, you know, you don't pay tax at those stores. It don't pay tax anywhere. Like anyone can just make that happen. It just does not, it doesn't have to exist. Like so weird. It's so weird to me. You know? And how do they fix the streets?

Oh, how are we going to fix the highways, Tricia? It's like those little toll roads. They just, they give you a ticket in the mail if you're on those fast lanes. That's how we do it. You know what I mean? Not just taxing money that. It's our money. I just,

I like never understand that ever. So crazy. Kudos. Yeah. I don't know. It's so weird. Let the Nigerians in. Yeah.

You know, they're, they're going to come here to work. You know, they come here to work. Like that's life. Everyone comes to work. You work and then you die. Everyone's just working their life away. Yeah. It's all boycott.

The border. The borders. I know. I'm playing the lottery. And it's like even when the lottery, the billion dollars, it's like, oh, no, actually, the state gets half of that too. The government gets half of that. That should be enough to pay everything.

We're all playing the lottery for a billion dollars and you get half of that every couple months. Like, that should be enough to cover prisons, everything. Abortion is feeding people, everything. That should be enough to cover all of it. I mean, tax the rich too. I'll pay some taxes, I guess. But the problem is not, like, we should pay taxes.

It's a question of if we can. decide, whoever say it, what they do with the money that we're paying taxes. If you can't decide if you can tax that person, just don't tax them. We're here. We're living. Okay, tax us, I guess. No, but I'm saying if I can have a say, like if say, okay, use my money not for war. Use it to fix education in my state.

Oh, yeah. That's funny. But I agree. But I just think if people are here, just let them be here. Work, yeah. There's enough people paying taxes that are living here. Lord knows we pay all our taxes. I'm like, we're not our money.

Oh, yeah, taxes. That's crazy. They're stealing. I mean, we're not. Well, kind of. Well, yeah. Look, California at the worst. Like, people forget that in California,

they were working on a high-speed train for many years, and they spent $4 to $5 billion on that, and it never happened. Where is it? Exactly. Where's the $405 billion? Homeless people, do you know how much money? Every year they spent for homeless people in California,

billions of dollars. Zero results. Stealing the money. That is so real. There's like so many homeless people. They probably could build some houses for them. But they do. do take money to fix it, but they don't do it.

What did they do with the money? They steal the money. There's people living lavishly with those dollars. Okay, eat the rich. Right? Yeah. Michael Jackson would say that. I'm sure if he had a song,

there'd be Eat the Rich song. You know. He came up on my TikTok. People were saying like he was ahead of his time and that's why he's not here anymore. Because he was saying, you know, history is a lie the way they teach it and stuff like that. He was saying a lot of things,

but they suppressed all of it. Yeah, he had the Earth song about the world literally being destroyed and But aside of that, his criticism of the music industry Like he had a lot of Oh my God, that's right Tommy Motola he was the first person to go out and be like he's the devil Crazy Well, that's up You should listen to the history album

Do you don't know any songs from it? No Where were you? Michael was like the biggest What year was the history album? 97 Okay, it was five Probably listening to Spice Girls

MTV? You're not watching MTV, Michael Jackson. I remember watching MTV. The first time I saw MTV was because Kelly Clarkson was going to be at the VMAs. You're not going to like this, actually, because now it's all coming back to me. I remember my parents put it on for me because Kelly Clarkson was supposed to be on it, and they had just played me the American Idol finale, and I loved Kelly Clarkson. And Michael Jackson, I think Brittany was presenting something to Michael Jackson. And I didn't know who that was. And I screamed and started crying because I was scared.

Weren't you like 10 when that happened? I was like nine. That was like 2001, right? What? He's screaming. I guess you were agoraphobic yet and left the house. That is crazy, but okay. I appreciate the honest reaction to it and they turned it off.

I think so, yeah, because I didn't know who that was. his face kind of scared me. I respect your friend, so I'm not going to be like, did you live under a rock, maybe? But he was, even 2001, that was like when he played Madison's Gorgarten. All those stars came out when he Houston and Macaulay and Courtney Spears and insane. Like everyone was paying tribute to him. That's so crazy. Okay, well.

And he lived right where he lived. He lives in. What? Yeah, he has a house in Encino. We looked at there. We like, okay, well, I didn't live right there. Well, 10 minutes. Like, that's easy.

I didn't really leave my, like, that was born forward. I did. You're right. You're right. I respect it. That's crazy, though. What was Kylie Clarkson's finale song? I think she's a moment like this.

And she had the curls and she had that, like, purple plum kind of jacket with the jeans. Yeah, she looked good. And she was crying and the sparks were flying behind her. Yeah, I remember that. I didn't watch American Idol. Like, they just put on the finale. Oh. I guess because people were talking about it or something.

And then, again, the gay, like diva. Stan like it just clicked immediately. You know. Yeah. This growth going place. You always know. But you do. Jake Shane,

octopus lover and this. Like you always do know. Even Zara Larson, you clocked a while ago. I was like, damn, you really knew. You have to talk to Zara Larson. That's your time. Amongst other things,

amongst your college degree. Not knowing Michael Jackson is, being in the 90s is wild. Even when only 2000s. Well, I knew eventually. Well, like, even Thriller, that was on before me like my parents always played it like my mom never listened music but always are like the baby my parents only really played like spanish music what's your favorite

like a galore estafone or something they played the ketchup song a lot actually lehi la la la lais oh i don't know do you have listened to onus my parents did i think he's great they also loved louis miguel they played a lot yeah yeah just had a picture of his son i didn't even know he had a son son's so cute oh my gosh there's a documentary about him out right now because i can't date him Right, Gary. Love Luis Miguel. Okay. Some good music.

Will Selina and Condinia? I don't think I knew Selena until the J-Lo movie. Fair enough. I didn't either, but I don't know if they played to Hano music. Maybe they had a little Selena in there. I don't think so. I think Gloria Estefan, I think she's cute. Yeah.

My mom played her a lot. I mean, she's queen, too. We love her. Evie Queen? What? Yvie Queen? No. She's like Queen, too.

She's also like, literally a queen. Yeah, so you think we listen to Michael Jackson's A little problematic actually Well, he was, doesn't matter if you're black or white He was for everybody, you know what I mean? I don't know if he had Spanish songs I don't think he did But he was international

He was just, he was amazing in every way But we love all them too All right, well Is that our hot topics or we have a hot one? Was there a hot one? The hot ones I mean, I have lingering thoughts about random things, but like... Lingering?

I just saw a TikTok. I'm so sorry. Honestly, whatever. She comes from me at this point. I don't care. I have bigger fish by Taley Franklin Paul. Whatever her name is. Oh, she's kind of...

Oh, we're bringing this back. I like it. No, I was like... I'm not worried about Taylor. I think Taylor Finky Paul has bigger problems than me. I just say... I just saw a TikTok of Michaela's friend being like... I love them.

You guys hate that. I know who the mystery man is. You... want to know who it is so bad. I know you're dying. You're gagging to know. That's kind of why my... I followed after that.

I did. She followed me and it said follow back. I was like, follow. That's kind of where my resentment about the, just having an arm and the, you know, for the hard launch or whatever. I'm like, oh my God. No, it's definitely views employee and everyone's in on it. It's just too much.

Now it's kind of dragging. At first it was camp and now we're dragging it. Yeah. I respect it. I feel like that was so me with the cardboard cut out with the fake ring, getting married to Bradford. Like, you know, you just got to like, You got to...

That was, like, camp, though, because, like, we knew it was camp. This is kind of, like, playing it out. Like, if you had... If you were teasing, like, a cardboard cutout, like, the arm of a cardboard cutout, you're, like... Doing a little TikTok to it with, like, a song, like, kind of busy. And then it's just, like, the cardboard, bad pit, carbo cut out arm. That's funny.

That's camp. But having just a random white man's bicep, I'm like, girl, been there, done that, keep it moving. That's so funny. Or keep it moving and keep it out of my face, out of my FIP. I don't need this. that and the third, chiming in. You wish you can know.

I love it. I know you're gagging for this tea, Mama. You want to know so bad, and I know and you don't. I'd rather see that then dad talk. I'd rather see that all day long. Of course, if I had to choose, but. They're the goofy goobers. That's what they call themselves.

And I love it. Did you see? She got that shame to Alex Earle's club party. Oh, that was her? That was her. Okay, what? No, that was the other goofy goober. There's two goofy gobers.

And I love both them. I follow both. And I love you both. So sorry. I don't know the names. I follow you both. are yes and I love it they hold it down for us curvy girls like I love it I am one of you you are one of me we love it well I'd rather hear more of that than trying to like make me jealous

I don't know who Michaela's mystery bicellisop is no I think it was that girl actually now I'm getting it wrong that other girl that was too pretty she's so pretty makeup campaign should hire her that's one girl the other girl got fat shamed by boys at a club so they both been discriminated against for being fat yeah and I feel you and that I love keep voicing that like put up the good fight, but I don't, I don't try to stay here and make me envious and jealous of her, like, you knowing Michaela's tea, girl, like, let's relax. That's what makes it kind of camp, though. I love, because you know what?

Back in the day, like, yeah, curvy girls could also be cheeky and fun, you know? It's like, the Mormon wives can be diabolical and everyone's like, yes, we love more of this catty. This is, like, fun and playful. And Oscar's like, no, we don't want this. Sick of it. I'm so sick of it. I'm like, girl, it's not, like, again, there's bigger stuff going on in the world.

Like no one's really dying to know that bad. Like, people were just kind of clown. I'm dying to know. I wish I didn't know. That's why I start following you. Tell me. Tell me the T. You can trust me.

I won't share it on the podcast. Oh, my God. So that was my one random note. Then my other random note was Jeff Wittick being like, no. Like, because ever was spill slash reported on like him saying, uh, he can't get Tanna back on Jeff FM. And then he made a response saying this fake news, these lies. And like, Jeff, you're the one. that commented and post, like, what?

Also, like, the channel we once knew is gone. Thank God. Do you know what I mean? Because now she's inspiring Jules LaBron to get sober. She's sober. She's happy in a relationship, a stable relationship. She's low-key. She's living her best life in Hawaii.

Like, yeah, people are like, oh, they change. Are the people not changing and growing? They're the people stuck. You know what I mean? It's like, no, you're just stuck. You all should be growing and changing. Yeah, to me. Every day changing growing.

Yeah. And that's why they were trying to release those damn butterflies. And Jordan wouldn't let the butterflies come out of the box. Still off with a fucking. Jordan is. This episode was crazy. I know. I got to watch it now.

I got to watch that first episode. I meant just Trish, but also, yeah, season four episode one. Oh, this episode. It is crazy. I've had wigs on for three days straight for like 12 hours each day. I can't wait to like, get this off. But yeah, I feel like the lights are brighter. This light has been in my face.

And I don't know why I'd hide from that. That light, so I can't see it. That is so distracted. I don't know how anyone. you cut to Moses. That's crazy. It's such a tiny pixel in the phrase. Moses hasn't slept either.

He's been up since midnight. Oh, no. And he goes to bed at 11, and then he was up at midnight because Aquaman's teeth are coming in. Oh, no. And so he had a little, like, fever and he was a little, like, he was a little warm.

So Moses had been up with him. I'm like, I'm like you after an Oscar coverage. I just a little unhinged. I was like, do you need a nap? And that's how you saw Lisa? Because you were up late. That kind of makes sense, actually. That's how am I?

I was like, what are we watching? How do we know all the tea? Yeah, you must have been really sleepy. Like, Lisa's speech where, like, it had an impact. Right. He's like, this really impact, which I mean, tea. It was. It was kind of nice.

It was kind of, I get with it. I did like it. Yeah, even yesterday during that line line, he's bringing out pasta for everybody. Oh, my God. I was like, damn. Also, I also got a brand deal with spaghetti sauce to go check them out of it. TikTok. It's very proud of you.

I came down. I was waiting for them to approve it. I was not out yet. Maybe we're out tomorrow. Probably. Tell him we need to. Go out and support. Go in support.

Like comment. repost do you have a call to action or anything I don't know direct link in the bio the top one the main thing is that I actually

created now a channel for cooking videos you did? But I haven't posted on it yet you create a whole new channel yeah sorry if I should we'll let you know soon

once I post a video or something I didn't cook I think it was Chef K I think that's her name the one that does all the Kardashians, is that my name? She posted at home, make your own like McDonald's chicken nuggets and french fries and it looked like the McDonald's chicken nuggets.

I know, maybe we should do it for Patreon. Because it looks so good. I've been just being like, make this for Malbu, but also like make it for Patreon. Me just being like, I want it so bad. It would be so good. And he makes the homemade fries. Isn't it hard to make those homemade fries though?

Because I always want them, but I'm like, is it difficult? No, I do want to do the nuggets. I do want to try it because I've never had... It's like a real chicken nugget. You know what I mean? But what is it? Because it's not panko crumbs. What is making it?

be on the outside like that because it's like golden do we show well it looks like there is a it i think it is kind of a no let me show usker because it's so delicious it makes me like greg sorry i'm not blocking all the cameras again sorry i'm bad more like you're blocking all three it's not cinema scope okay you just so in the middle you're in a crossfire of all cameras maybe if you want to call me fat call me fat okay those do look like real nice but those one look like pinko crumbs and moses always take the grist allow. That's why I love when he makes chicken dishes because he makes sure there's no chewy parts in it. I love that. Darian's been, he keeps making flons for me. Oh, he makes flas. He makes

flas flan ever. It's like half flan half cake. It is so good. But the problem is I was so stressed over Mormon wives that I now I'm out eating, I'm out eating my JLP one because I am so mad that I'm like, I need to eat and then I'm going to eat this flon and like he just made it yesterday half of it's gone because I was so mad watching Mormon wives. It was amazing, yeah Oh, Flan sounds delicious You can marry him Honestly, if someone like cooks for you

Like marry that person Enough lawn is good I'm like, please make it for me Yeah, it's like It's the bottom of it's like a chocolate cake Even I don't even like chocolate But and then the top Is the lawn

Is it's so good I think he cooks it for like an hour Then it has to like chill for like six hours Wow yeah you need to marry me I was gonna marry you again It's crazy It really is like having a full time chef I'll, like, go to the grocery or sometimes.

I'm like, no, I'm going to just do it myself. I'm going to be independent because I don't want to make five different dinners because I was making, like, so many dinner. I'm like, I want you to get it so far. I'll make it for myself and then I go get the recipe. I was like, okay. And I just like, oh, it's just so nice. And then so, the presentation's so beautiful. And it's just, it really is nice.

Especially our weekends, because in the weekends, like from breakfast, lunch and dinner. You are a chef in the kitchen. In the morning, weeping up breakfast for everyone. Then lunch for everyone. Then we're cooking and dinner. I know. Before I went through the cornshi, we're little noodles. Yeah, you're great.

You got to marry someone that cooks for you for sure. And if you're someone at home who can't find someone, start learning to cook. That's my problem. I think because I didn't cook for people. They're like, you're not. I don't want to marry you. But that's not the problem because had you done that, you would be miserable. That's true.

Save for the right one. And I started cooking for you. That's how you started cooking for me is I started cooking with my cooking videos. And then you took over. Yeah. I mean, I think it was more for you, for the people. what the cooking videos. I was cooking for you because I wanted to be a wife.

I was like, we got this house and I was like, I need to be a wife and start cooking food. I tried. I cooked you. I remember I made those homemade pita balls and homemade hummus and I got the little blender and I was doing chickpeas for you. That was for you. I don't like hummus or pita balls. Or falafel balls.

That's what I made. Flapha. I was trying to remember what pita balls. Flapha balls and I crushed those. It was good. Yeah. That's my advice. So people can't find love.

That should be a dating show. Instead of like age of attraction, it should be like dating people based on their cooking. Oh, T. Like love is blinded, based off taste. Love is delicious.

Yeah. Love is delicious. Oh. Love it first white. Wow. Is that a show? Because it's the same thing. You just,

there's like a little door opens and a dish comes in. Oh. And then it comes to the person. You're hosting it. You better get on the phone with Netflix. Marro. That is actually. so good and not problematic and so relatable because

you know like that last meal that they do with like celebrities like Killer Duff just did one and all they do is like focus on like the food it's like my grandma's Peach Cobbler and like they show it whatever because people like love it. They said the food TV shows are dead like years ago but I think we could bring it back with that because I swear to goodness I would marry you again because it's just like food alone. You know what I mean? I was just like obviously other things too but like food alone I was like damn I would have married sight unseen. Didn't get any money saved?

I'd be like no no no cooking is like such a you talk we talked about this last Did we talk about it? Give the person a fish? Did we talk about it? Yeah. Was that last episode? Yeah. Like, don't give the fish. Did we say that on the air?

Was that afterwards? I did. I think I did. I'm Patreon. Oh, because we're eating the donut. Because think about it, neither one of us cooked. We're just going to be eating out. And it's crazy.

Now, when we order food, I'm kind of like, like, I'll go and get it if it's hot, but like ordering food's crazy. And it's like, and now even like McDonald's is like, I'd rather just, can you cook it for me? You don't I mean? And you do. It's the weekend. We're going to the beach tomorrow, which is crazy.

I haven't been to the beach with the kids ever. Were you beach as a kid? Was I beached? What did you say? I do beach. Did you go to the beach as a kid? A little bit during the summer, I guess. Yeah, here and there.

It sounds sandy. Yeah, I think I liked it a little bit, but I was never that hype because I would chafe. Again, that's what I was just has salt water and that. eyes rubbing. Yeah, and walking because you have to walk so far to the car. Yes. And then sand is stuck in all your crevices. Yes.

It's going to be a doozy, but we're going to go to it. That's fine. Yeah, that seems like a good thing to do. So you have a great weekend. You're reading tomorrow? Well, yeah, unless you change the law and decree, you know. Oh, yeah, no work. Yeah.

On Thursdays or Fridays. One day. We have a lot to do. We have a lot of work to do in the government. and we'll get there slowly. But Shirley, that's it, guys. Thanks for watching. Don't take anything too seriously.

You know, it's just entertainment. Unless you have a domestic violence charge. Maybe take that one seriously. Other than that, that's it. Who cares? I have fun. I did have fun. I did have a lot of fun today.

And that's it. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Happy coming up Easter. What comes before that? Passover. That's it probably. There's no Columbus. staring.

You know the first three presidents real quick before we go? I asked us to Tanna yesterday. First three presidents. Oh, I have no. George Washington, that's it. I have no idea. What? What?

I know Abraham Lincoln was like 15. Stop. Hannah knew the first three presidents and she dropped out at 15. And you went to college. That's crazy. You guys, we were trying to play this for anything fifth grader yesterday. We were playing a little bit. We should do that in here.

She was so smart. I was like, damn, girl. Like, that's crazy. You don't know? No. Do you know? I mean, no, I guess you know in the U.S. history.

I wasn't there. Yeah. They didn't learn U.S. history. Isn't that crazy? Because we learned world history. Did you learn world history as a kid? Yeah. Like we learned world history,

but you didn't have U.S. history. I think it's only when there's like world wars. You learn about that. So you learn about that part. But you don't know about Civil War? But no, we don't like, it was, I think in general, the education was very sheltered and cultish, you know,

like very brainwashing yeah your words not mine I don't know I didn't grow up there um maybe everywhere is like that

maybe some a lot of some schools can be like that too because we were also very like I think it was extreme though like extreme oh like did you ever learn about

like other religions and other no no did you no that's what I'm saying like it just felt like

oh we did no we didn't no I didn't no I knew what truth I didn't know like Jewish I didn't know what that was. We did.

Yeah, we had to go, we had like a class where we had to study other religions. And then one of our projects was to like go to like experience like, like, I think we went a different religion like, like, like, like in Hunch, like we went to like a Buddhist temple. I remember. We had to like do a whole like ceremony. Wow. Oh, that's cool. I wish I would have had that.

My spiritual awakening came at 31. I wish I would have had it earlier. Yeah. We had to like pick one and then go to like a, not a mass. I don't know what the word for it is. But you know what I mean. Like that equivalent. ceremony right yeah a little service yeah there you go yeah wow so we went to a buddhist

temple for my project yeah cool i like that a lot you know about christianity no i was upset that they didn't teach us really enough like so it just stopped at old testament like that's it end of end of the book that's pretty much that's crazy huh it really it just depends on where you grow up how they what you're conditioned to yeah tea probably like why tela frank pauses way she has her mom Did you get to the episode where her mom's like I saw it in the trailer for the season She's like yeah I should probably put you up for her adoption I was like what?

How do you say that to your daughter's like 31 That's insane But anyways Enough of that you guys As Raising Kane says One Love They have that everywhere Michael Jackson once said

We are the world We are the children starting with the man in the mirror Make the world a better place Okay We love you guys Can you name one Michael Jackson song besides the ones I said. A, B, C, Jackson

5. Okay. That's good. Not a Michael Jackson then. Mama Seamus Mama Seamus on Maka Stop. Okay, okay. Do you know that? How? Because Rihanna's Same, no. Not the Samma. All right, I'll give it to you.

Moses' favorite Michael Jackson song. Jimmy Cutte. He's like, sober. thing. Oh, I think that's the one he just sang. Daddy it over. Yeah, yeah, too. All right, Thriller era. Yeah, I love Thriller, the album as a whole. I love all of his songs. I really grew up with his songs and music. I think. I love it. I have a hot take. I actually think he is a real saint, like a real life. Oh, wow, that is. Oh my god, we're quite a stream now with it. I was a little nervous to say like Michael Jackson. This is, you give a saint a ward. Well,

that's where we maybe should end up for today. Maybe we We do it extended. Love that. What a way to end it? That's how we would like it. Thank you guys for watching. Jimmy cut it whenever. Love you.

Bye.