Just Trish - Jeff Wittek Talks Vlog Squad Trauma & MOVING IN with Tana Mongeau

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

Tana Mongeau is BACK on 'JUST TRISH'... and she brought her "friend with benefits" Jeff Wittek! Jeff and Trisha rehash their complicated history–from their traumatic Vlog Squad days to the infamous Starbucks incident. Plus, Trisha questions Jeff and Tana on their flirtatious relationship. Is there any hope for Teff? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey guys, welcome back to Jess Trish and no, it is not 2019, it is 2023 and we are here with Tana Mongeau and Jeff Gwinnett. Oh my god, I can't believe it. My heart rate is through the roof right now. I'm so nervous coming in here. Never been so nervous. I've never been so nervous. That's why I'm so glad you're here, Tana. Because when you texted me, my heart sank in like not a good way, not like a fluttery way. Like, oh my gosh, what's happening? Like, i associate us with drama and i'm trying to be drama free these days but i just don't think this episode is going to be drama free no we're cool we're all cool uh we brought tana as sort of a mediator to be sit in between us but look at how we sat you know yeah this is crazy because i do just want to say on the record if beef ever went down

between the two of you i love you so dearly jeff but i'm trisha i'm trisha no way really because you guys are like tight tight well i was saying about this you know look where we're at your house is unbelievable by the way the pink rolls royce outside is gangster thank you so much it's incredible it's a fun vibe out here well we're far from la so we get more bang for our buck like where you live is probably the cost of this house for your apartment really no mortgage and the rent is probably the same. I'm not kidding. My Palazzo apartment rent was more than my mortgage here. Really? My mortgage is less. I pay

$10,000 at the Palazzo and my mortgage is less here. No way. What? This is the goal. We're like pulling up here like this is what we want to be. 100%. We're the same age pretty much but like where you're at in life, you just had a baby, beautiful child, Malibu. Thank you. And you have at in life. You just had a baby beautiful child Malibu And you have this beautiful home. It's great. I'm proud of you staying out of drama

Well, I don't know if you're staying out of drama or not I said something about someone and I got like oh my god canceled I was like, oh it's a long time. I don't remember they're like how dare you not remember now I'm so sorry our Our podcast was so good. It did kind of like stir the pot a little bit. But it was so we've decided that we're going to be recurring guests on each other's podcast for the rest of life. I'm so honored for that.

I was just like, oh, my gosh. No, but you guys as a duo are kind of everything right now. But you're like not dating. Not at all. And you put us in this chair together, too. That's going to be hard to believe that. No, but there's just no way you guys are together everywhere you even said something so sweet on a text you were

just like i was like oh i love like your eyes it's friendship whatever you're like yeah she's like a real one like i'm so glad like i found her like through all this or whatever i said she's incredible i am i am lucky that i found her and that's what you said i'm lucky that i found her that's romantic to me yeah yeah well you saw it all happen you saw like uh my majority of friends you know that that changed up a lot and i found her perfect time you know she got me out of the house because i don't want to do shit but um yeah i reached out to you i hit you up because of your guys's podcast i was like you spoke so nicely of me and you always really have it and you know maybe there were some times you know there in the beginning that things got a little

ugly but we were on opposite sides you know yes so all is fair in love and war you know but that's okay we're gonna talk about it but that's what always kind of got me is because like like i never considered us opposites because we barely knew each other and you came in right at the ending of my little time there so i was kind of shook that like you did not like me so much like i was kind of like okay i get it like i'm not in the group anymore but i was like kind of shook by it all yeah he drank the kool-aid yeah i was drinking the kool-aid which is like cult vibe because like no i'm just nice to me i'm just a loyal friend like when i'm with my boys if they have like an ex-girlfriend or something that like you don't even listen to their side of the like you're just like fucking yeah i'm gonna ride with my boys you

know we could talk about the starbucks situation all that, but we're going to do two episodes. I want some stuff for mine later. I kind of want the Starbucks because that's such a funny story to me, how you punked me out of Starbucks. I know you want it for yours. That's not the case. We're going to get to the bottom of that. Since I put out an apology video to you. I was so aggressive about it, too.

Like, we can go into the detail. But I was like so, at the time, I was just so unhinged. Like, I've never been more unhinged in my life. out an apology video to you i was so aggressive about it too like we can go into the detail but i was like so at the time i was just so unhinged like i've never been more unhinged in my life there was a time i think oh my god what changed why are you not unhinged anymore is it the baby um well i went to a couple mental hospitals that year and then i got rehab like i went to a facility for like mental health like recovery so i got treated for borderline i started doing like actual therapy because i never was in therapy prior to that. And then, yeah, I mean, when I met Moses, I mean, I was still heavily on drugs, you know, but, um, my bad Moses, I forgot to give you credit

there too, you know? No, he saved me. Like love saves you. I truly believe that. Like when you, like someone really loves you, like he made, like I quit cold turkey. Like I was heavy into Xanax when I met him. Like I was just blacked out every night. And then like when like when he proposed i was like i should probably like get my like shit together and stuff like wow wait that's so sweet that's like us right now that's so true who's the moses and who's the trisha what do you think i don't know look this is basically you know how what's the age difference between you two am i allowed to ask that 10 years because this is like yeah exactly i think you you are evolving like You evolve into this. You know what the Pokemon?

That's the goal. That's the absolute main goal. I keep saying that to her always. I saw a podcast where you said she was going to be Jennifer Coolidge in the future, and people always tell me that. They're like, you're Jennifer Coolidge now. I was like, okay, thanks. Wow, no, that's the main one.

She's the ultimate. She's the final boss. What is it? Charizard? Because it starts off with the baby one, and then Charmander. God, I feel so bad for all the girls and gays watching this. I don't know what to talk about either. I know nothing. Charizard becomes like it starts off with the baby one and then Charmander and then I don't know what I'm talking about either I know nothing I just know everyone called me Jinxie

and that's all I know I can edit a picture of Jinx somewhere it's like a Pokemon with big lips and blonde hair yeah I don't know but Tana, Trisha it's both double T's yeah good she's always been way ahead of me she's always been way ahead of me she's always been

way ahead of me as far as just like accomplishments also like maturity like you've always been that's why i've just like always loved you so with art not even beat with the thing that happened with us in like whatever the vlog squad days it was like so annoying because you were so young and i was just like people were trying to be like oh she's jealous of i'm like no i'm like this creepy old man is like hitting on this like young girl i was like i'm trying to like save her because yeah you know what i mean like i just saw so much of like me but a lot of girls you know that grow up like the way whatever yeah and i was just so like disgusted by it and that's like really what ended it all which is in a way i'm like so thankful for so would you guys ever like okay let's say when do you want to get married by i mean i should have

probably already been i'm ready to have a kid now like i really want to have a kid but i don't want to go through the you know i mean i do want to find a partner that i love and it is that my you know one but it's just not easy you know so okay so you guys how far age apart are you you're 34 you're 23 you always do that too you're like even though we're beefing you always add on like two years you're like oh he's still on youtube is he like 35 and like just those little like if you always add on like two years like oh, he's still doing YouTube is it like 35 Just those little like if you just add on a couple more years you get away with it Yeah, it's close, you know, but is it You're right. I hate I just did a whole tick talk about people like aging me like using my age as like a insult

Like what are you 40? And I was like, I'm 35 and I've been on YouTube for 17 years making a lot of money So like F you. You know what I mean? I get you. I do that to a lot of people too. They round it up. You know? Yeah. That was an old trick. I was like, oh, sorry. Like flip back in.

But I really did think you were, you're going to be 34 this year. I will be. Yeah. In December. I looked you up. You can just say it. You can say it. Whatever.

I just want you to know where I'm coming from. I'll call you 40 for the rest of my life. And you're 25. But you're so mature. You're so stable. Because I saw on your guys' podcast on Jeff FM that you guys were talking about having a baby. Platonically. Co-parenting. Yeah yeah we say a lot of wild stuff on the internet

me like fully down I'm so down I feel like it's real though um I mean that I think was just well right now you're probably my best like girlfriend yeah you are for sure 100% you guys love each other that's wild that's a good compliment're probably my best girlfriend. Yeah, you are for sure. 100%. Cool. But is there love? Are you guys like, you guys love each other? That's wild. That's a good compliment. You're my best girlfriend. That's really sweet. And even like guy friend too, probably.

Yeah, I'm both. Now that I think about it. Don't misgender. And she's so loaded. I mean, that always helps. You know what I mean? It's so hard to find someone that's not a gold digger. That's true.

You know? And Tana is like the sugar daddy. You know what I mean? You could literally have this mic, and this could be your show with a t on it and everything actually we have a second t we should have put the bling t on her we have two of them we should have done it yeah we could have been the co-host so when i watched your guys's episode and i came up you spoke very nicely and you said you would consider having me on and i've always thought about reaching out to you because our last like even when i was gonna like you, you just scroll up a little bit.

And it's just such violent, wild shit. Oh, is it still there? Mine's not there. Mine's not there anymore. I didn't even want to look because I was just, like, cringing at it. Like, damn. Well, I think the last words you threatened me would be, like, you're a little rat and I'm going to, like, get you a rat or something. Don't date.

Look, things have changed. We're here. We're friends now. Look, we stopped this. And I want to get that out of the way. Like, look, there's a reason why I'm here. You've always spoke. Look, we stopped this. And I want to get that out of the way. Like, look, there's a reason why I'm here. You've always spoke like you've had my back. You know, you spoke the truth.

And I used to think you were batshit crazy. And, you know, that's just how it is with that group. When you have somebody that's exiled, it's like, oh, they're batshit. That's why they need to get out of here. It's crazy to think that they still like that's still a thing, too. You know, it's wild. It's so childish. But they're not a thing anymore.

They're dissipated, right? No one talks about it. They're not around. I don't know. Yeah, I don't even say the name, because it's like nobody even knows, but... Right, we'll bleep out a spare bleep out vlog. Just bleep, bleep. Yeah, yeah, I don't really care, but you've always just, you know, you just spoke the truth. You know, you had something that

you knew that was a big secret that I was keeping from everybody, and not like I was paid off to keep it a secret. I just wanted to keep it a secret because I was embarrassed. But that story needed to come out. And if not, I'd be in such a worse spot now. Like even, you know, this guy made his episode where he blamed the shit on me and I saw his true colors. And that happened like right at the end of the statute of limitations to even do anything, to take action and to get like rightfully, you know, we're fighting it out in court right now, but you know, to get that, like I needed that. And that

was because of you, you opened my eyes or I, you opened my eyes. Your eyes look great now, but yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. I just was, I was shocked. I'm still to this day. It's the most, even watching all this last night, your eye looks great. I didn't know how you were going to look in person. Cause I haven't seen you, you know, I didn't know how you were gonna look in person because i haven't seen you you know i didn't know i don't know what would you say if it didn't i don't know i wouldn't say anything but it looks great it looks amazing so your surgeries look great no and that'll happen and like still i'm still so shocked that he's just like fine like get it everyone just loves him calling you a clout chaser i'm just like this person like watching that accident is that true i don't i don't see that what i don't really

follow anything no i think you had said i watched a podcast where you said he that someone said you were doing this for clout or something uh he did he said that so he did yeah so that's why i was like wait how how does this get flipped on you because if there is like one clear victim and like victimizer it's you and david like how how is it just like swept under the rug like no one talks about it like it's not a thing i did keep a lot of things quiet you know like i didn't at first we were boys so i wanted to you know have his back but when i realized like oh shit in this documentary with casey he's blaming me for this shit he's blaming the victim not the other the girl you know yeah that was essayed by dom blame you know he's just like coming off like

yeah no people just did this for attention i'm like how delus dom blame you know he's just like coming off like yeah no people just did this for attention i'm like how delusional are you but that's what this game does people get such an inflated ego from social media that they think that they are on a higher level than other people and i think he's just believing his own lies and people around him know the truth you know like i know they can't fucking uh live with those. They're probably fucking thinking about it all night. Like I knew it. I picked the wrong side. You know who I'm talking about.

Do you not talk to any of those people that were there that day? No, not really. Like I'll see. I saw Matt King in the gym. He was nice. He was like, I'll come on the pod. You know. No, he wouldn't.

That was cool. He said it. But he said he would. I respect that if he said he would. I didn't follow up. But maybe I will. Matt has been the nicest one on the pod. You know. No, he wouldn't. That was cool. He said it. But he said he would. I respect that if he said he would. I didn't follow up. But maybe I will. Matt has been the nicest one of the group. I always like Matt.

He's really nice. Yeah. He's a smarter one. And Mike Sheffer. I hung out with him recently. Oh, I don't even know him. When did he come in? Must have been after me.

Yeah. Yeah. I think so. He wasn't like a main character or anything. But he's like. Isn't that crazy? How it's like real life. but like we're like characters. Like people are like characters in this like saga.

It's like so crazy. Someone was asking me about that last night at dinner. They were like, you were good friends with David. And I was like, like I was around him a lot. But like genuinely, that's what it felt like. I was like a character. For sure. You know, it's like there was never once like a how's your day or anything like that or, you know.

Yeah, it was never like real, you know, between any of them. They know the deal. They know how it is. With you two? You don't think it was real? I also saw Jason in the gym. Did we not say his name either? I don't know.

We can bleep it. It's fine. No, I don't care. What did you say? Creepy old man before. Yeah, I couldn't use that term. I saw him in the gym. I literally never think about him.

He does not exist. But we can talk about him. I saw him at the gym and he's just like, he came up and he was like, you know, being nice and stuff like that. And I'm just like, you know, I'll be civil back, you know, cause like he wasn't even there that day he left. He went to go to the bathroom or something like that. He had like a stomach problem.

So he wasn't, he didn't even see it go down. But I just told him, I was like, you know how it is. The kid's fucking stunted. He'll never believe anything that he did anything wrong. You said that in person? What did he say? Yeah. He agreed?

He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. So fake though. I hate that. I hate when like they yeah he agreed it's like yeah yeah yeah so fake though i hate that i hate when like they agree but it's like i always say this you can like love someone and be friends with someone but still admit they did something effed up like you don't have to be defending him being like like i remember watching that episode of views and then like talking about it and being like jeff wanted to do it we have the dms like that was a real podcast yeah yeah that's when i was like okay so this is what he's gonna spread this is what he's gonna try to do okay so i'm happy that you put out everything at the time I was like terrified of it I was like

how the fuck is she doing this to me she's ruining my life but really deep down inside you were giving me a push in the right direction well I'm glad because sometimes you know sometimes I do it like out of anger but especially back then I just like wanted I was just so upset that they got away with so much stuff and then I was just like this is something insane and i said that like in 2018 i was like something serious is gonna happen someone's gonna die and it's like whatever and then like i get tagged in edits and then it's like the song starts playing the drop comes and i'm like swinging around oh my god no but that's what's crazy it's on video it's like there's no there's no clear thing than like david driving this and you just like literally almost like being decapitated like it's insane that people like even argue like what is the argument that it wouldn't be

his fault i asked him to do it before hey can you fucking you know spin me super fast like fucking like i don't know what they thought that that would be believed or whatever but it's just like there's still stuff that i can't wait to say but i want to have like like a I want to have like that Johnny Depp Amber Heard live stream trial. I want to hold things for that, too, because there's a lot of like criminal acts that will put people you want to be a fucking citizen and you're doing the shit that people don't even know about. I can't wait. I can't do it here right now because there's still stuff going on. And I even you know, I have a lot of people helping me on my case. It's better to do it that way. Yeah. Yeah.

They're like, absolutely. Don't talk about it. You're not supposed to do social Yeah. They're like, absolutely don't talk about it. You're not supposed to do social media even. They were like, don't do social media. But I was like, you know what? This is what I care about. This is what I do, not even just for the money. So I'm going to continue doing this.

Yeah. That I need to get what I need from that. So, you know, I'm going to keep going. Well, Jake, your story was made public whether you wanted to or not. It's like made public. The video was circulating before you ever said anything about it. That's how I found out. You know what I mean?

Yeah. It was already out there. So I think talking about it's fine and i think you're doing the right thing because so many people on social media just like it just becomes a shit storm and nothing gets done about it and i'm just like why don't people like press charges and do stuff because some people are criminal like i don't believe in like cancel culture but the people who do like criminal acts and like actually like literally like almost like and other things i mean they did a ton of criminal acts they've done a ton of stuff and i've been this place now where i'm

like it's not my place to say. Or like the girls with the alcohol or whatever. You know, for so long, I was like, well, I don't want to say it until like someone else like tells their story. But I'll cooperate it all day long. You know, I know other shit that happened. But it's like not my story to tell. And if someone's not ready to tell it, then it's like you can't force it, you know? Where was this energy back when I was on the show and you're like, didn't you get your

fucking eye popped out by a crane by him? I know. I know. I was so angry. I was so angry. I was so angry. I can never go back and watch that. I can't either. That was my 9-11.

Seriously? It was your 9-11? Why don't you look me dead in the eyes when you said that? You just always joke about it. 9-11 or your eye? Both. Okay. Love it.

No, I'm sorry for that. No, don't be. I'm telling you, thank you. Not many people were riding for me and I was sticking to my friends I was sticking to that group and I was like no no we're going to make things right we're going to make things right and then you guys put it out there and then we got into back and forth and I had a realization

I was like wait there's a victim a real victim here this girl who didn't want to be spoken about she didn't want to be known she wanted to be anonymous and she came out and said her thing and everybody else was like she's a liar she's doing this for clout. And I realized they were doing that to me, too. And I was like, wait, there's a pattern here.

You are going through shit. They're like, oh, she's bad. She's just crazy. You know, she's in the hospital, mental hospital. You weren't helping the case because you actually did get 5150. And like, you know, even me, I'm like, well, maybe she is just crazy. But I've always said like, I mean, at least in my opinion, it's like someone could be going through some stuff. Girls would be pushed to that.

That doesn't mean you're not speaking that. Like there's times where I feel like I've been pushed to this by this crazy life. You know, people can't really understand unless they're in your shoes. Yeah. Ultimately, like I take responsibility for it. But that whole year that I was in that group, you know, from 2017 2019, when I ended up in the mental hospital, I never did any drugs. They always would say, oh, she was always on drugs. And I was like, I never took, I didn't take a sleeping pill.

I took nothing. I never drank like nothing. I never took any drugs that time. The only time I started doing drugs was after all that happened, you know? And so, and again, the pain. Yeah. So of course. Yeah.

I mean, but there's, they also made up a bunch of stories about me that I found out later on weren't true, but they were told to me like this happened. You did this, you did this. Oh, oh you were high you didn't know so in my head i'm like well i'll take responsibility for it like shit i don't want this out there gaslighting i don't even know what gaslighting means she had to teach me i didn't either she's like you were being gaslighted this person's gaslighting and i'm like oh shit now i'm using that word no i'm saying i think gaslighting's like overused but i there was so many instances where like you did this so own up to it before we like go to the police but i'm like okay if i really did this there would be a police

report that somebody there would be news reports about this you know what i mean like crashing into someone's house yeah that would be all over the news whether there'd be a hole in the house right thank you so i mean i don't know that in my mind so i don't know like back then but i'm like pretty sure that like didn't happen you know yeah? Yeah. I think you'd remember. I definitely would remember. I remember the craziest stuff when I was on meth. Like I remember that was my year of it. I remember all of it. You know what I mean?

So a lot of it, not all of it. So I don't know. It's kind of strange. Why did you stand by David? Like after that accident, were you just like, okay, it was just like an accident. Like you were friends. I'm a very loyal person, you know, and I know people make mistakes. And at the time I was like, oh, he just made a mistake like you were friends i'm a very loyal person you know and i know people make mistakes and at the time i was like oh he just made a mistake you know but deep down inside we all know how he really is and he's never happy with a shot until he gets what he wants where he

like fucking switches it up and does like an extra thing you know and they had filmed for six hours that day the whole day filming the same shot over and over again he wasn't happy so when i got on there i didn't realize he had a different motive he wanted to go fast fling me off you know like some shit like that so you didn't know no and at the time like afterwards i was like well it's a fucking accident accidents happen i didn't realize how hurt i was how i didn't realize i was going to live with these injuries you know i thought i would heal up like a black eye i've been jumped before i had my face smashed up where it looked worse than that situation well not really but close you know close. You know, I was just like, this will heal up. I'll have some scars, but it is what it is, whatever, you know? And it wasn't until the next day or a

few days later when I got out of the hospital and he gets a phone call from Kourtney Kardashian. And he was like, look at what this guy did. Like, I was like, what I fucking did. And I didn't say anything. I bit my tongue at that moment. And also i'm processing all of this you know my life has changed um my life has changed i live with this shit nobody else you know so when i kind of like when i saw that that's how he was going to play it off i was like oh so he's not going to take responsibility for this shit he's going to try to blame me and i'm the one in the clip that if that video ever comes out i look like an idiot because it looks like i signed up to do this shit like what the fuck fuck? If I saw that, I'd be like, yeah, what the fuck were you thinking? You know? Yeah. But even if you did sign up, even if it was your idea, all this stuff like that,

like jackass, like he should have had like insurance, paramedics, someone driving it, not him. I didn't know he was driving it at the time. Like I saw the thing and I just thought it was like an excavator person driving it. Like I had no idea it was David. I'm like, why? Why on earth would he do that? Like that like honestly he's in my opinion and i'm not a medical professional i think he's a psychopath like that's crazy like who would ever do that yeah we were just listening to a song on the way here if what's it what's the lyrics tana what's the lyrics how does it go if everyone else around you is crazy you're the one that's insane yeah you know jay-z he's always right oh yeah you have the new york you have the la that's

kind of controversial right here jay-z and beyonce right here of youtube oh my god i think it's a courtney kardashian thing like he just called her and she was like with like rain disick and mason and he was like i don't know if she faced i'm i was out of it i was on drugs and shit but i just remember you're making this up right now don't fucking do this i'm just low-key and off i'm sitting here i'm like but you wanted it right like but i remember that happening and then like you know we went back to the airbnb and they stayed there like we're waiting until i was able to travel back to la and i just started thinking about it i started like feeling things out and then we took a drive together and I was like yo look that's not how it's gonna go like

I won't sue you 10 out of 10 people would but I'm not gonna just don't fucking try to do shit like that you know and I guess he took that and twisted it in the podcast it's like oh it was Jeff's idea you know he wanted that's what he said to me in the car was don't ever tell anybody that I asked you to do

this you know you fucking delusional you know he wanted that's what he said to me in the car was don't ever tell anybody that i asked you to do this you know you fucking delusional you know and like the shit in the in the hospital when he was the only one allowed in because it was covid time like he's screen recording the the dms i sent him a meme of an excavator before that and he like screen screen recorded that and put it in the podcast like look he had sent me this like yo you sick fuck you're in there i'm thinking that you're the one that cares about me that i bring you in and you're in there wiping the fingerprints off the gun, like already making an alibi for yourself and making evidence like from day one, they had a plan. And I could explain that to you. Like, that's the stuff that I want to leave out from the lawsuit. But yeah, it's wild when it comes out. I hope it does. You know, I hope it does come out. Will you rise with the sun

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or no? Yeah, he tried to just reject it, dismiss it. Yeah, he tried to get it dismissed twice. The first one was you said I was doing it for clout. The second one said I was his employee and I can't sue because I worked for him, which is insane. That should be even more actually because – No, no, no. Nobody was ever getting paid. The goal was –

Yeah, that's true. You just all film together and you get exposure. You build your own shit. Or if you just really film together and you get exposure you build your own shit or if you just really dick ride and do stupid shit maybe you'll get a car you know yeah right oh my god i was trying for the car it's a crazy well look at me now everyone fell off but us we're the only ones doing shit we're the only ones that still have a career that could actually make money ourselves that is very true we don't have to we don't have to make sure someone else is happy to make sure that we're still going to eat the next day that's true well i think he also like

he probably realized at some point that he fucked up by bringing on people with their own platforms like morris or who were would go on to make their own platforms like a todd or a you know people who are just right under his wing whereas like trisha had her own youtube channel millions of subscribers and could go on and say something like, and it means, you know what I mean? Whereas like a Scotty couldn't do that as easily, you know?

Right. Yeah. Why? That's why I think, yeah, they don't, I don't, I don't know why any of them are doing that.

I mean, they were all nice. Those people, I guess we're fine, but they all like when Scott made the video defending David being like, he's such a nice guy. I was just like, what is these people are like brainwashed.

Like it's a cult. It really is like a cult, which is like scary. I bumped into Liza at fashion week in new york my god yeah and she's so sweet and nice and i'm like it's again it's like how the fuck were you mixed up in this and she feels the same way and we had a little conversation i was just saying like let's like we could talk for hours and hours no podcast nothing like that's just i mean what do we talk about i think you should fuck liza like you don't need like an eye for a girlfriend that would be crazy yeah she's special she's beautiful she's very high end though she's very like she's funny she's talented she's so funny

yeah she deserves it yeah she's super nice she earned it she made everybody she made that whole crew people sometimes i'll see comments. They're like, oh, how could you say this? Like, didn't he give you a career? I gave him his career. Liza gave him his career. Yeah. That's my response.

Not I fucking put him on. Yeah. Think about it. You know, like you take all the friends out. Who is the, you know, what are people watching for? A thousand percent. Because you're clever editing. Yeah, you're a good editor.

You know? Yeah. Stick to that. Yeah. Stop trying to drive cranes. Stop trying to do other shit. It's not for you. You know? Yeah. Stick to that. Stop trying to drive cranes. Stop trying to do other shit. It's not for you.

You know? Liza, I told her, I was like, I kind of slipped up and I was like, yeah, we were all drinking the Kool-Aid. But actually, she made the Kool-Aid. She actually was the one who made the Kool-Aid that David got a hold of and then he started spreading out and Liza took off. Yeah. I know. I was really sad.

Liza left like right before, like right when I was in there. I just started like, oh, I love her. Everyone's so nice and sweet. And then it became so like dark and, and the whole thing became really dark. And David was just always just cold. He's just, like, a cold person. That's why I didn't know if you ever felt a real friendship for him, because I know I didn't. It was definitely always just.

No, but there were definitely real friendships there, you know. Okay, so it was real for you. Like, yeah. You know, Todd was my boy. Jason was my boy. You know, I had real friends there, you know. So that's why it was tough, know I had I had real friends there you know so that's why it was tough like losing all those real friends and then that's why I was like really

saying I was really happy grateful that I found you know her and I also have Mike I got you know I have different friends that I don't want to say like impulsive because you probably I don't hate them I just don't hate people you know they're not meant for me obviously they seem cool I think Logan's cool yeah yeah yeah I relate to them more you know they're about fighting and stuff like that they're down to go get in the ring and uh you know i respect them not just yeah i could i could respect that about them you know they're more my speed yeah i get you you're kind of bro-y yeah whatever i'm trying to change it day by day i know because that's why I love you guys as a duo because it's so it like softens you

a little bit because without Tana you're like you're a rat I'm gonna come find you and with Tana you're like oh thank you so much

we were listening to Lana Del Rey on the way here see I love that I think that's what you like need and you guys are like what nine years apart

that's like our age difference it's like the perfect because like an older guy I just think it'll be so cute and if you have babies I'm trying to have babies at the same time as Tana so we can like we need to have a baby at the same time the way i'm talking about it like we're going to get our nails done like we need to

have matching nails but i feel like you guys are talking about it so it might be a real thing i would never push it on anyone but since you're already talking about it i was like you know that could be fun yeah you never know you never know it might have been under my nose the whole time what i was talking about i'm looking for the one. Maybe she's right here. Were you guys friends during that era? The 2018 era? No, we hated each other. What did you know?

Because I don't know if you guys crossing paths ever. I don't remember seeing you in the same room. I'm not kidding. Like, no. I never realized how funny she was until we did the barbershop together. And I was like, oh, shit, this girl could really take jokes, dish them back. She's quick. But the both of you, it's almost scary to see a woman that's so outspoken and powerful and smart and sharp.

I think he thought all women were just in the kitchen until he met me, which is really scary. A lot of influencers, too, rely, like you know a lot of the ones that a lot of influencers to rely like you said on other people and stuff like that i feel like with tana like you've always been like the power blazer like with you and jake with anybody it's always been tana's the star and then like these other people are kind of like yeah i'm just leeching off her well no you guys are good to go at the end of the day i think it's mutually beneficial you can set up a camera you two can set up a camera and have the same amount of views as if you have the biggest myself though like it is like like david could have never done like a mukbang like no we had a mukbang and no one cared everyone's like no or his podcast

i'm just like they would be like 38 minutes long i'm like why do you have a podcast if you're only talking for 30 they would do it as quick as possible they're just like they were just trying to like get it done edit out all the fake shit exactly which is a lot that's why it's vlogs like four minutes 20 seconds but i was just like i think like, get it done. Because you've got to edit out all the fake shit, you know? Exactly, which is a lot. That's why it's vlogs with, like, four minutes, 20 seconds. But I was just like, I think with you guys, it's, like, good chemistry, too. You know? Because it's, like, that makes a difference. Like, Tana is the best guest on any podcast she's on.

They're so sweet. No, you're so entertaining. You're so nice to me. And people love you. But you guys together. Because I've seen you with other, like, guys. And I, like, forget their names, don't know. And then, like, see you with Tana.

Yeah, me too. Nice. I know. Sometimes when I was watching Dancing with... Were you at Dancing with Stars last night? I was supposed to go. I know. Me too. I know. Sometimes when I was watching Dancing with... Were you at Dancing with Stars last night? I was there. That's my first lie of the podcast. I wasn't there.

You were supposed to go. We've been having some trouble. We've been having a lot of trouble lately. My life is in shambles. You know the movie Fight Club? You do, of course. So you know when the guy's apartment blows up, the narrator, and he just comes home and he sees his one unit's the one that's burnt out of the building, and he's like, what the fuck?

I guess I'll go start a fight club. It's not really that, but kind of. Okay. So my apartment just flooded. I lost everything. Everything's done. My podcast set, it's all in shambles. So I'm editing from a hotel.

We're trying to get the podcast up and the video and Wi-Fi in the hotel shit. I was just stuck with work stuff. Yesterday, stressing out. Lele wanted me to be there so bad. I promised her I would be there. She had a seat with my name on it. I sent him a photo and he posted it like he was there. This asshole.

I know. I thought you were, but then I'm like, you weren't next to you and Montana Tucker. I was like, okay, where's Jeff? I know. Yeah. I just wanted to still show support, but I really genuinely couldn't be there you know but my mom was even like oh tana's i see tana supporting lele there and i'm like fuck i should have been there so then i just posted it and lele left me on scene i don't know why she still puts up with my shit you know i told her that i cussed you out

i was like i'm so like i was telling her that she was great i watched it literally to watch you guys it was oh i love you you're like i mean i don't know lele i mean i don't i know her i just don't know her but and i was like oh i want to see if tana's on tonight and it was so cool it was like i just love seeing people do like mainstream shit you know like that like it's just there's something about that always in the influencer space it's like yeah it's just the sickest thing ever to me i'm like dude i was kind of i was going to talk to you about this just randomly and send you a voice memo though we weren't kind of talking about this actually harry jowsey being on Dancing with the Stars. Yes, what?

It's just like he's fucking on OnlyFans, and now he's on Dancing with the Stars. Yeah. What? I'm so jealous. Is he having sex on there? Yeah. No.

What the fuck? I don't know if he still is, but I know at one point he had this sex tape where he was in a shower, and it was through the glass. You could barely see it. We did an OnlyFans collab. We didn't fuck, obviously. Really? He does OnlyFans. Like hard quirm. shower and you could like it was like through the glass you could like barely see it we did an only fans collab we didn't fuck obviously but um like he does only fans you know and he's on dancing with the fucking stars and i'm so jealous i wonder if they know that because dancing with the stars like they've circled with me before yeah because i was like they found before i did only fans i had

a patreon where i just posted nudes and they found nudes and like oh we can't come on because you're nude so i'm just like i wonder if they know wait what you couldn't go on what because so you did only fans before only fans existed come around you were doing only fans before only fans yeah i did a private snapchat do you remember that everyone had a private snapchat you could charge a hundred dollars and yeah it was a really big thing and so that's what i did and then when the only fans came around i was like oh this is like perfect wait that's so crazy i didn't know i didn't know that that's how that all went down like that that you started on Patreon and then moved it to there. Oh, I loved it. I loved doing it.

Because I just thought it's like you make so much money and it's just like so easy. Like you're going to send nudes to someone anyways. Might as well just post them and get money. I've always said that. Yeah. But you don't do honey hardcore, right? You don't. No. You don't show asshole. You don't need to. No. I saved that for you. Honey. Wow. Wait.

I've never seen it. I've never seen it. But one time, you guys. What are you talking about? No, no, no, no, no, no. This is, we don't want to screw this up. You know, this is a very good friendship and we value that more. Wait, but seriously. Yeah, that's what it is.

And it's just like, if I walk into you like one more time. That's what I tell her. That's what I tell her. Have you dated anyone since you guys have been besties yeah we've been yeah we've been going after each other's friends for a while now right mostly you mostly you going after mine wait which federal i wouldn't even say friends employees you know like my plumber my plumber she hooked up with my my landscaper yeah she's my weatherman. I can't picture it. I can't picture it.

She'd throw in two lies and one truth and it's believable. You know, the weatherman was real. None of that was believable. None of it. I just wanted to know a little more about the weather. Wait, is that real? No, it's not real. Jeff had this whole-

They got like 90%. I think they cuddled naked or something. We didn't cuddle naked. That's you. I like that. No penetration. Jeff had this whole episode. He like really- You were were really upset you got upset about it break down for like two months yeah we jeopardize our whole friendship it jeopardized the weatherman's job yeah it was

like what a whole bunch of shit what was it why did it make you angry i'm just fucking around now i mean it did make me angry because yeah like we really do i really do value this relationship this partnership this friendship it means a lot to me. I've had so many friends that I've had falling outs with, and I don't want to screw this up. So when my weatherman starts going after her and they want to have a romantic relationship, I just know that it'll end bad, and it's going to make my shit awkward. It's also Jeff is making this so up. He's having an episode.

Did you guys hang out? You and the weatherman? Yeah, we still hang out. We're friends. They cuddle naked. We didn't cuddle naked. A we still hang out. We're friends. They cuddle naked. I cuddle naked's not bad. You were in bed and did a shirt come off? No.

Did yours? No. Has he ever seen you naked? Maybe online. That's a good point. Whatever, I don't care. She's not going to give us anything. I'll get the weatherman on on the next show. Why do I not know him? Is he part of your vlogs? He's always doing a different character. Whatever. I don't care. She's not going to give us anything. I'll get the weatherman on on the next show and we'll fucking.

Why do I not know him? Is he part of your vlogs? He's always doing a different character. People know him and they don't even know that they know him because he's always a different person. You have so many people in your vlogs. I can't. There's just so many people in the Jeff FM studio.

I'm like, I can't keep them all straight. He does a weather segment on the podcast every week. And one day he was just talking about the clouds. And I was like, God, I'm so wet. We do this segment. I don't know any of these people. And I watch like, God, I'm so wet. We do this segment where – I don't know any of these people. I watched all your episodes. I don't remember a weatherman.

We haven't been doing them because after the flood, we actually got hit with a flood. So now we don't have a weather segment anymore because we're not in the studio. Yeah, and he's been at my house. Was he reporting when the flood happened? The weatherman is over there. Yeah, he was actually. I'm so confused. Something suspicious there.

Yeah, so I was just worried about them ruining my shit, like ruining my show, ruining our chemistry. If there's like, oh, don't have the weatherman call in. Like, we had a thing, and like, I don't want it to be weird. That never, you made all this up. I did. I might have made, well, I could predict the future sometimes. Wait, are you a pathological liar?

No. I've lied like three times on this episode. Listen, listen, listen, listen. No, she's going to make me, and there's real shit that I talked about, and I don't want people to. I know. That's my problem, too. Because now you're jeopardizing my other shit.

You did sleep with the weatherman, but you didn't fuck. You stayed in the same bed together, right? Didn't he sleep over your house? Or he tried to sleep over in your Uber? He slept over my house in a different bed. You sent him home in an Uber, right? You were like, yeah. He sent himself home in his own Uber. Okay, so there was stuff going on. They didn't, maybe it wasn't like a naked cuddle. Maybe they don't want to

admit that. Well, she's 25. She's gonna be just, you know, out there. He's also a slut. He doesn't talk about that at all. Are you? That's not true. I just had to come for him. I'm not even worried about that. She knows, because I ghost all her friends, and then they get mad at me, and they call her, and then she's like, yeah, he's just mentally ill. It's actually

the worst. That is like a thing. Like, once every couple weeks, like, a girl will be like, so in love with Jeff, and then you handle things so poorly, and then they're like, asking me he's just mentally ill. It's actually the worst. That is like a thing. Like once every couple weeks, like a girl will be like so in love with Jeff. And then you handle things so poorly. And then they're like asking me, like, what do I do? And I'm like, I don't bug you. Oh, they ask you? Oh, so you're like in there. You're like a bro with them.

Yeah, we're really just friends. Oh, really? You don't get jealous at all? No. And you don't get jealous of her? Well, obviously you do. Yeah, it's so embarrassing. I do big time.

I make up other excuses. I'm like, yeah, because it's going to jeopardize our show. No, I'm kidding. But you do getize our show. No, I'm kidding. But you do get a little jealous. No, I don't. Are you kidding me? I lose my mind every night. I just picked her up and there was a guy walking out of her house. That's a lie.

You're insane. There was. Kyle, who was that guy? Who was the guy with the knife pocket thing on the side? My security. That was my security. He's not security. That guy's like Kyle's size. I know, but he's a side. What? My security. That was my security. He's not security. That guy's like Kyle's size. I know, but he has a gun.

He weighs 140 pounds. But he has a gun. A knife. I know everyone tells me to fire him because he's little, but I'm trying not to discriminate. He has a gun. You had a huge security guy when we were there. He was ginormous, and he was so scary, and I was like, this is the perfect guy for you. She fucked him, too.

She fucked him. No, my God. You are being so bro-coded right now. This is why we don't do the impulsive. You're too bro. I look so jealous and bitter right now, but no, I'm kidding completely. We don't get jealous.

We're just good friends. We don't fuck each other's friends. I was exaggerating about that. Maybe one or two you have. You with her? Okay, let's go through your... Why are we doing this? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Let's not do this. Yeah, this is so straight right now. What do toxic couples say? Like, can we just have a good day today? Yes. This is like couples therapy right here. This turned into a whole other thing. I know.

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like so serious happening. Like, I'm so sorry. I had no idea. I'm like, oh my God, what happened? Well, let's unpack that because I don't know anything about that. Well, I just like sincerely ride for you. And we just did these whole episodes where I'm saying like, Trisha's talked to me a lot about how she like doesn't feel like she's ever had good like girlfriends in the industry and i think that makes me really sad because she's fucking amazing and you know we we got into that and then right after you came on like a couple days later i had jojo seawall on just like randomly like i just want her to come on campus she's the mini pokemon she's the she's the first i saw her oh yeah she she thinks, yeah. Do you think she'll evolve into Tana? She'll evolve into Tana, which will eventually evolve into you.

I don't know. I didn't just bow on. She's like smoking crack in a couple years. But so I saw her on someone's podcast talking about how much money she made. And I was like, damn, this actually could be interesting that Ron canceled and talk about the empire of it all and, you know, just celebrity secrets and random shit. So I had her on a couple days later. And then I guess she went on Howie Mendel's podcast and went all colleen core which is awful and then that came out like right before hours

came out and people don't know about like i'm in a contract i have to do my episodes every week whatever i'm of course i just i didn't know about it until then and i was like i had to let you know before anyone like but even if it was like i said even if it was like david dober i'd be like i don't really care because it's like it's a podcast guest and it's just like, you know, for drama, for views, whatever, you know. Yeah, but had I, had the Howie interview

came out before she was supposed to come on canceled, I wouldn't have done the episode or I would have at least like bought a borderline and asked her about it.

Yeah, it had nothing to do with me, honestly. I was just like so annoyed with her because she was, it was kind of the same situation like Scottie defending David.

It was the exact same thing like JoJo defending Colleen. When there's like hardcore evidence and facts like she was kind of basically everything is lies and i'm like no but there's like facts that this is not a lie this is an awful person there's videos yeah same thing when scott was defending david he wouldn't do this i'm like no but there's like that and that's what that's used to what really would trigger me and now i know how to handle my

triggers a lot better so i can like emotional regulate better but like in the moment i get so angry because i'm like how are you defending someone when like so many victims are out there David Cooley all these facts like you know that's that's the thing is it's just if there's facts there's facts yeah it is what it is like people liars when there's like facts I'm like that's crazy that's like I think that as well like I think this maybe this comes from like

the the crazy bitch in us it's like when someone's accusing you of lying and you're not that's Todd Smith did that to me and I had like a whole like it is my trigger because I'm like why the fuck would I lie about what did he accuse you of lying and you're not that's that was todd smith did that to me and i had like a whole like it it is my trigger because i'm like why the fuck would i lie about what did he accuse you of lying of um i was at this uh paramount pictures like babylon by paramount all you said was he missed hanging out with me or something like that right and that was like oh no you can't say that you can't put that out there he came up to me kind of yelling at me like being like there's two sides to every story insinuatinguating that there's David's side and Jeff's side.

And I'm like, first of all, I feel like- Let's hear the other one. Let's hear what the other one is. And that's what I was saying back to him, essentially. But it's also just like, I felt like it was one of those things where Jeff wasn't there and he felt like he could yell at me. And like, it made me really uncomfortable. Like, you know when like a man is like-

Yes. Like close to your face and like whatever. Like I like wanted to cry. I was like uncomfortable. I called Jeff about it. And then we podcast about it the next day and then todd went on to say like tana's a liar and it's like if i'm gonna lie about someone i'm gonna lie about someone where it could like maybe benefit me at least like that there's no yeah it's not things like that like i just never have i'm not that type of person like it's i might lie to an uber driver

i might like embellish about an ex-boy boyfriend i might you know yeah no lie about the weatherman you were so wait so you were friends with them still you this is when you were still friends with them and you did that not really i think that naturally just as jeff and i got closer i mean david was the first to obviously distance and then they all just kind of followed suit because you were friends with him still yeah yeah and just writing for him not only just friends with him you know like they see mike malak and they're nice to him and cool with him i think that i was kind of very much like there with him for the surgeries and sitting on the podcast being like this is fuck to watch and i feel for you and i feel like it is just you're also outspoken about it and mike not so much and also you're just like someone people listen to, you know.

Not to say Mike is, I don't know, but I'm just saying you're outspoken. I'm like that. Like I stick with my friends and I'm loyal, obviously. Like we've been in situations where like I ride for them too much, you know. So like seeing other people collab, I guess that's the game. I guess that's YouTube. That's just what you have to do. Like you don't like doing that really.

I noticed you said on your episode that like she saidff has people on that he doesn't even like and he'll just like call them out on their bullshit did i say oh i didn't say that about fuzzy too yeah and you're like oh i don't like that shit like i wouldn't have somebody in if or oh it's just more me personally because i just like i'm so far removed from everything like more for my mental health because i'm like i was mentally insane so i think to like do stuff that's like not fake but i don't know i don't know what the word is i guess i just no i don't know i don't judge like negative dramatic like yeah i don't judge it at all i just think i don't know i think i was so far out for two years i kind of just stopped making like youtube videos and stuff

like that but i'm not you don't have to play it like that you don't have to be like not yourself not genuine in those situations you just gotta keep it you need to do things like that like your brand is so much like you want to have on people you love and discuss fun things yeah you know definitely i would love to see you bring on an enemy and just go at it right here in these pink chairs but trisha's reform yeah because it's so you know what it is it's like i feel like i would love to too like i'd love to like squash beats because i really don't want anyone to be mad at me like the jeffree star situation like i got i genuinely felt bad i was really trying to like bury the hatchet basically i was like this whole thing where i was like i don't remember it

was a long time ago right and obviously i remember and he got mad that oh you don't remember you remember like and so then i got mad i felt bad because i don't want anyone to have like bad feelings towards me obviously people do like obviously there's people who are gonna hate me forever but even like i just don't want anyone to have bad feelings with me but i'm not gonna stay here with like david and be like so because there's just i wouldn't say that fucking sociopath but like i don't know maybe a lighter hearted one like maybe you and jojo siwa talking or no yeah jojo yes but she's okay oh she's kind of like you when you were 20 i feel so bad for her we're evolving yes where it's almost like i want to talk to her but she's

still 20 and she's still like so warped. Do you know what I mean? She still thinks Abby Lee's her friend and Colleen's a good person because she's still in that mentality of like, I say being groomed. You know, she was kind of with all these adults. And I got that vibe from you when you were so young that you, of course, you were okay with these jokes of, you know, Jason trying to kiss you when you're 18 because it's like, yeah, you're trying to be in this group and you think it's cool and like whatever, as I did too when I was 20. And so with JoJo, I see it and I'm like god i want to talk to her but she's still so young and it's like for her to be on here i'm like am i exploiting it more me personally like would i be exploiting it more trying to like help her if she doesn't see herself as a victim i don't know it's just like i get so i get what you're saying completely and i feel like even at like 20

i would try to hold on to you know like her and abby lee or her and whatever you know like like you you just want to hold on to it and make it okay and be lee or her and whatever you know like like you you just want to hold on to it and make it okay and be okay and it's like i don't know what it was but eventually as you get older you're like fuck that yeah like that's like not okay or even like your situation with like shane like the peeing on shane and whatever it's like you were so young and not to say like i'm not saying like i'm not trying to victimize you either because it's like yeah you know you loved him whatever but it's like there's something so like disturbing about it and because i was also that person at like 17 and thought all this stuff

was cool and okay i was just like oh i don't know i think i just see it with certain like young girls and like with you specifically it really broke my heart the whole threesome thing was just so like it honestly disgusted me because the cameras weren't on i was like pretending to sleep and he's like what can we do to have this threesome happen like what can you do it just go in there with him shirtless and i was like this is like a 20 year old and this man is like 45 i remember that night that was one of the last nights i ever went to that house and it was like super it was just like the energy felt super dark so dark like it just like you know i can remember that moment and it i like see it in like black and white it was just everything felt really dark and then I ended up living in that house after. I lived in David's house for like four months.

Oh, you rented it afterwards, huh? Yeah, when we were still friends. This was before you and I were close. This place has got to be haunted now. And it was just kind of such an interesting thing to like when I was living there, I was like remembering all these memories. And I was like, yeah. Because I wanted to buy it for a second.

And then I was like, no, I don't. It was a horrible house for what it was. I was just like, this is like no space, no pool. It just was not the vibe. But that was one of the last nights. That was like, I think that was like January 30th. And I went to a mental hospital February 5th. So that was the last night that I was kind of like exiled.

And I said, don't ever do that again, whatever. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Two days later, it's you, Jason, David, Madison Beer, and a Tesla. And he's like, why are you attracted to Tana? He's like, I love broken girls. And I was just like, and that's when I went off. I made the video. I was like, you guys are disgusting.

I went off on these voice emails. He was like, no, he said it was okay. I was like, oh my God. So that's when I went off and I lost my shit. I'm like, you guys are so disgusting. Like, how are you so disgusting and creepy? And that's when I was just like so sick to my stomach and I was so over it.

I was just like, these guys are the worst. And obviously my trauma is like nothing compared to yours. So when I saw your story and heard your thing i was just like how does he get away with and those girls too those girls that i was at that apartment and we left and all stuff like that i was just like how does he get away with this stuff over and over specifically to girls and i think when it happened to you you're this guy now you're like the bros with them you have genuine friendships and it was just so interesting to see like the turn how they were all like so close he's in your documentary showing up to the hospital for you.

And then also the turn. Well, that's the Kool-Aid shit. That's the Kool-Aid stuff. Because I was there that night when you got checked in. Yeah, that's right. I was outside, though, in the waiting room. I just heard what was going on. Why?

Why? If they say, so if you're with your boys and they're like, oh, this person's crazy, you know, like they need to be banished or whatever. You just believe that at the time. I had to be I needed to really see things for what it was like. I mean, I'm almost embarrassed of it. Looking back, like saying like, oh, yeah, this didn't happen. This didn't happen. But if you look at Dom and you listen to all the other girls that have allegations against him, like it's not a coincidence.

So he was so creepy. Yeah. Always. Everyone. I mean mean briley reed has talked about it how she was like you know not wanting to do it and they try to push her yeah and all i said on the podcast because he made an apology video where like he cried and stuff like that it was like i can't believe i'm not like gonna discredit anybody but like after i put out my thing and then i put out mine and i was like, yo, they knew about this shit. They knew about it the like week after and we were never told. And we're putting those videos too. Our faces are in those videos.

Like we're, we're all, you know, a part of this now. Nobody told us. So I brought Dom on my show. I had him on the barbershop show. If I would've known he were doing shit like that, you know, I would absolutely never associated with him. Still to this day, I have friends that screw up. I can cut them off.

I don't associate with them. I don't care how funny they are, what they do for my videos. If you fuck up and you do some weird shit like that, I distance myself, you know. And I made a video saying like, yeah, I realized, you know, that, you know, they knew about this and I don't like that. I don't fuck with that. Like that's, you know, now I'm going to make my decision, you know, based off that I'll probably take a step back. And then Natalie called me the next day. She's like, David saw your video. He's not going to like that you know and now i'm gonna make my decision you know based off that i'll probably take a step back and then natalie called me the next day she's like david sir your video he's not gonna like that you fucking delusional you are insane you know jelaine yes you know no i that's

a whole other thing my issue with now like people like why do you hate her so much i don't like oh she is she's like rotten rotten i didn't talk to any of them when the documentary came up i would get a call 10 times a day because they would want to come edit it. They want to come see the cut before it went out. You know? It's so scary. Oh, wait.

We need this to line up with the case. Like, if anything comes out, you know, like we need manipulation and like, I can't wait. I'm telling you. Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, part two. Do you think it'll go to trial? I hope. You want it to? I would love for it to.

Yeah. Which is like, usually like anyone who would do it for clout or whatever which is not you should get paid and compensated for your whatever usually would just want a settlement but the fact that you like want to go to have trial and have this all come out like i think that says like a lot about your like story yeah because i i'm not gonna lie it does piss me off when i see comments of people don't know shit but you can't let that really get to you you know like people will say stuff that i'll read and i'm like fucking i wish i could just come out right now but you know you just got to eat it and wait for the time. Patience.

Well, yours is just such a crazy story. Like, to me, it's the most mind-blowing. When I was watching your documentary and you're there just with your eyes covered in the hospital and stuff like that, I'm just like, how? Like, how did this just, like, it became, like, another, like, cancellation thing and it was just like, that's it. We're over it. You know what I mean? I'm just like, this is such a serious thing. Like, it affected your whole life.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then afterwards, like, with the whole thing that you're talking about like how did it go were you guys still friends and all that like i didn't want to have to cut everyone off you know but he made it like that like i had a barbershop episode planned with oliver tree and he wanted nick there he wanted jonah to be there for the episode so i was like it shouldn't be an issue you know like this was after uh tmz put it out that you know now we're fighting now in court and jonah was like yeah he was like yeah yeah i'll be there for the episode so i was like it shouldn't be an issue you know like this was after uh tmz put it out that you know now we're fighting out in court and joan was like yeah he was like yeah

yeah i'll be there cool and then i get a call back an hour later and he's like nah dave said i can't do it and i was just like really hurt by that because i love that kid you know i love his family i really looked at him as a real friend you know like he moved into my old apartment we lived next door to each other. We would cook food together. If I was going through something, he'd bake me cookies, you know, like we had a real friendship and to hear that, I was like, okay, that's how this game is. I just got to learn to take my emotions out of this and just find real people to hang out with and just fucking get over it.

But you know, those are people, not just friends in real life. They're my content people. Like I film with them. So now I got to rebuild everything. Do I even want to do social media anymore? It makes you not want to when you leave such a big dynamic like that. Because I got hate that whole year. Just constant one thing after the other for one.

And I was with someone before that. You know what I mean? I was with Shane. I was with all these people. So I'm just like, why are people associating me with this random young kids that I barely knew for a year? It was so weird. Yeah. It is crazy that your whole career, one thing like that can happen and all that hate hate yeah it is crazy but i've survived enough where i've like partnered up with people

where it's like up and then down and up and down and i'm just like okay like i'm so i like just trish because i'm like you know what my last one went to shit too with colleen i'm just like let me not collab with anyone anymore it always just goes to shit just such a flex because it's all you need like you know just trish is such like it's exactly what you need you don't need a co-host oh thank you can i ask just like a selfish question like what would you and colleen even have podcasted about like what did you guys talk about c-section scars i think that's what we talked about every episode was just like giving birth and i mean it's like interesting i guess to a certain degree but that's all we talked about every episode because you don't talk about

like drama or stuff like that but i was just like okay i don't know honestly i was just like wanting to podcast again and i kind of partnered with her because she had a podcast I was like I didn't know how to get ad reads I mean now I figured it out but I didn't know at the time so I was like you gotta partner with her you know and that's why we offered to build a set in our house do all this stuff you know to make it work um because I thought oh she'll get the ad reads but then the end of the day she didn't she's like well I don't want to like risk like losing my ad reads because you're problematic and I was just like okay so we just didn't have ad reads and I tried to get it for us and then we got the deal like you weren't keeping any part of her career alive

like that's so wild like other than like six year olds who like don't know well i didn't i just didn't know i wasn't friends with her like that either so i just didn't know clearly that's the severity i just knew nothing about her i never collabed with her as you know like yeah nothing but um i missed podcasting because like you know i just didn't do anything for a couple years and podcasting is great it's so fun it's fun didn't do anything for a couple years. Podcasting is great. It's so fun. It's fun. I feel like it's, like, the new wave. I try to, like, ride these waves.

Like, vlogging was a big thing. But no one vlogs. I love vlogging. But no one vlogs anymore. Me, too. I'll always, like, love it and just, like, want to vlog. Me, too. But it's not the main driver anymore.

I'm, like, no one's watching these. You know what I mean? I watch. I watch them all. Even you're one of my 10,000 viewers. Which is fine. 10,000's a lot, honestly. I'll take it.

Just queen of the no edit. I was telling him in the car, like the it's really impressive how you can not edit and still crush it and your videos will like take off and you don't that's it's just great you don't have to try you just fucking put the camera up and do it that's kind of my whole life yeah not trying anything just doing the damn thing like your vlog so you don't really have to put in like a lot of editing i just watched your vlog in the car though And I was like damn like I like fart and upload it and like your vlog of us in New York was like a cinematic Master so much. I'm missing dancing with the stars cuz we're sitting there editing. I should be out there. You know, that's that's why

You know drama shit should we get back? People talk about like the situation and they call it drama like it's YouTube drama Well, yeah, like this shit ain't drop and the grown men like interviewers i saw like uh jason did an interview interview with a guy from forbes and he's like yeah i like how you stay out of the jeff drama like motherfucker you call this shit drama yeah that's kind of what did he say to it i don't even i don't think it's a big deal i think people pick up on things like that like i do you know um get your shit together tom no but it's a big deal. I don't think people pick up on things like that like I do. Let's get your shit together, Tom. No, but it's definitely not drama.

Yours is definitely not drama. That's what pisses me off too when people say it. That's not drama. There's people that are hurt by it. It's just real life shit, but your life is in the public, so people take it as drama, which is so crazy to me. Yeah, or they just look at it because you're talking about it. They're like, oh my God, Jeff Williams tried to buy it.

This is something that affected your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another thing. I because you're talking about it like they're like oh my god jeff won't shut up about it you know but it's like this is something that like affected your like life yeah yeah yeah that's another thing i try to avoid talking about it but this podcast obviously we're gonna dive right into all of it i mean this kind of thing you should never ever stop i'm always telling him that i'm like literally like you were just saying he's just about to get a surgery or like a surgery opportunity came to him where he could have his full vision back but it's 50 guaranteed that like some beverly hills neuro optometrist the guy's like a genius but it's 50 50 like you lose all your vision in your eye you get it all back and i was like trying to get him to talk about it i

don't want to bring it up i was like my whole face like if you look it's like dented in on this side you know you see like if i look like that you notice that the eye's fucking off so you're just supposed to push it forward but when you when you're doing shit like that like if you snip it that optic nerve snips then it's completely gone never comes back you never reattach that you know so that's why you can't like pop your eye out and put it back in ever you know because it's yeah do you once that's done it's done so your eye is crazy now that i'm looking maybe you could have like a cunty glass eye yeah i was thinking about that like oh yeah is this your real eye is this your real eye yeah yeah so you didn't like not to like minimize it like oh you didn't lose an eye but

like did it detach no no the retina detached in one surgery but but you were like if this like triggers you like tell me to stop talking about it but you were like hanging like upside down yeah at the end of it no that don't trigger me yeah i got like it like sliced into my leg the rope like that scars from the rope what were you did you were just unconscious up there were at the end of it. No, that don't trigger me. Yeah, I got like, it like sliced into my leg, the rope, like that scars from the rope. What? Were you,

were you just unconscious up there? Were you just like, you can't remember it? I like to say no. That's like the bro-y answer. Like, no, I didn't fucking even get knocked out by that crane, you know,

but I was fucking out. Oh my gosh. I got KO'd for a second. Yeah, it was like a TKO. What's the last thing you remember? Yeah. Screaming,

no, no, no, what the fuck? Like screaming, like I'm gonna the last thing you remember yeah screaming no no no what the fuck like screaming like i'm gonna die did you think you were gonna die yeah fuck yeah yeah for that moment yeah and even after like when i got out i was like holy shit this eye's not working anymore i was like what the fuck is that gonna come back and i was like walking over and i remember saying to like mariah she just reminded me mariah's very sweet too she always like had my back sweetheart and she was like i just said to was like, oh, I got fucking rocked. I was just saying stupid shit. But no, we got pulled over on the way

to the hospital, and we got the cops saw my face. There was blood leaking down, like a flap of skin hanging over. And he was like, just go, go, go. Wait, you weren't in an ambulance on the way? No, because we just had to go. They thought I was dead. I was pale white. Who was carrying you like who carried you into the car i was like this like like you know oh my god that's crazy so crazy you don't know how bad this shit's gonna be like i

was trying to swim up and i was like why can i swim back up i didn't realize that my leg was hooked in you know i was like did i lose a limb i was like am i alive and you know like you just like you're playing all these thoughts in your head you don't know what happened you don't you don't know how severe the damage was you know yeah i'm shocked i'm shocked nothing like more severe happened like you didn't lose something because you like are like hanging there or you're like snapped yeah like that leg would have snapped off or something if the leg or i don't know actually sure i guess but did you like after that accident were you just like trying to find god or find a reason or something like well how did you heal from like mentally how

do you heal from something like that like losing your looks you know what i mean yeah thanks now you don't have it i'm not gonna lie like i didn't know you well before but i think do you feel like it kind of humbled you? I think you look the same. I think you look amazing. Same. I wanted to say that too. I didn't mean you're ugly. Pretty boy like nothing had happened.

It gives you some grit. It humbles you a little. I needed it. It looks fade anyway. It's inevitable. People are going to get old and you're not going to be good looking forever. You better figure some shit out you know david was so obsessed with you being good looking he was so i remember when he first because you came in like

my last few months and i remember you me and david by ourselves went to do a tree thing do you remember that i remember like a christmas tree he's like go jump through a christmas tree like wrapping like the thing they wrap christmas trees in and they had like jeff go it was the most bizarre thing so let's go back to this disfigured uh face. That was just such a funny question because I've never, like you two are just real and raw and you, I love that. I love that about you two. Like you'll say some shit like that. Nobody else will say that, you know? Yeah. Okay. So about your disfigured face, how do you like heal from, are you just like, okay, I'm not, I'm not going to be that hot young guy anymore. I'm just going to be be a little cool like i have a story to tell fucking ate me up for a while i was like now i

can't even be funny i can't ever do shit again i can't put a camera in my face i was like insecure about your identity and confidence yeah it still does it still does i have bad eye days where like i just got to record a brand deal and i can't do it i'll have days really how many fingers i have yeah yeah yeah i could it does get scary. So we'll be like driving in the car and he'll be like looking in the mirror. You drive? Yeah, I drive. This eye is perfect. This eye is good.

Okay. Can you cover that one or no? Is that mean? No, it's fine. How many fingers? Okay. Now it's blurred, but I can still tell. You can tell?

Yeah, yeah. I can still tell. I can't see at all. If I go like that, I can't see you from here. Wait, what? You can't? No. How many fingers?

I just see like two of you. Oh my God. Oh my God. That's like so sad. Holy cow. from here wait what you can't no i'm fingers i just eat like two of you oh my god oh my god that's like so sad holy let's talk about the disfigured face because vision nobody knows nobody could really tell like that my vision's fucked up you know see a little something yeah but i did have a moment where i was like really bummed out i was like just staying in my house not talking to anybody i didn't want to answer anybody and then i was like you know what i got fucking money you know i'll just go to fucking i went to rodeo drive i went to all the shops like saint laurent gucci i bought all these sick sunglasses and that was like the step that like got me out of the house doing shit again and i was like i could film content with glasses on

yeah and now i'm like all right now i don't give a fuck because the story's out and everybody knows the deal you know but um Who were you going out there? Who were you going with at the time? Like, who was your friends at that time? I went with myself to Rodeo just for that. Oh, my gosh. Well, because you had such. I got sick of those green sunglasses that I was wearing in the dock.

How were you making money back then? Like, you said you were making a lot of money. The barbershop was always. So you were doing that simultaneously while you were in David's Lots. Always, yeah, yeah. You were smart at that. I was doing it before I even met David. Oh, you were?

I didn't know that. That's how they found me. They, like, found me. Oh, the episode that you were in, the Taylor Holder one. Really? Because I really fucked with him. And there wasn't really anything like that on YouTube where I, like, purposely made people uncomfortable.

And it was just, like, nonstop, like, joke, joke, joke. And they were like, was that shit real? Because we, like, fought. We had a boxing match in the video. And I was just, like, drilling him. We called Tana. And I made him confess his love for Tana. Oh, my gosh. Is this trolling or is shit real? Because we fought. We had a boxing match in the video, and I was just drilling him. We called Tana, and I made him confess his love for Tana. Oh, my gosh.

Is this trolling, or is this real? It was mostly trolling, yeah. So you trolled. I was completely trolling. I didn't know you at all. Yeah, I know, because I talked to you on it, and I was like, damn, who was that? You remember that? Did I say that? I don't remember, really.

Or maybe I was instigating. I don't know. It was kind of fucked up to you, too. You got dragged into it. You had some crossfire. You got hit with in that in that joke i i apologize for that oh yeah i feel like so many people owe tan an apology like i know you're like such a cool chick and you're down for everything but there's so many times i'm just like can you not be so like using as a punchy like you're so smart you made so much money like who cares but it's also like so sad sometimes i

do think about that not not in my life now, I guess. The last couple years. When I think about my early days, there's a lot of people who owe me a fucking apology. But we talked about that. Olivia Rodrigo just released a song all about that. People needing to owe her an apology. Wait, really? She's like 20.

That's crazy. But I was listening to that literally today. But we talked about that on our episode. The second I'm done with everything, I'm releasing a fuck you book. And I can't wait. You so need to. And'm done with everything, I'm releasing a fuck you book. Yeah. And I can't wait. You so need to. Like, and everyone's just, that'll be my apology to myself. Yeah.

How are you? How did you like mentally like stay sane through all this? Because I would have been like on crack if I were you and you, I would have been like doing. I really didn't until I was like probably like 23, you know? Well, I just, I'm really good at like pushing shit down and just keeping it pushing as well. then i had like from 20 like 20 to 22 i was saying a lot of xanax like i don't remember my reality show i don't remember like all of that time i was doing xanax too yeah yeah it's that drug like if you want to run from your life you know it's it's and it's scary it's scary as fuck

yeah for sure it's like it's a really scary thing if you like don't want to live in your reality you just take that you don't remember anything you know the non-scary drug it's not like you're shooting it up or anything like that you're kind of just like let me just pop a pill you know what i mean you don't really feel like a high you're just like you're just chilled out yeah yeah once it got like super bad i was like okay i have to stop this and you know i was taking so much xanax and pills and all that shit i saw a video where it was like you super young it was a tana mongu drives mongu was crazy it's like you super young and it was like Tana Mangu drives Mangu was crazy. It's literally Mojo. Mojo drives cars.

Did you say Mangu? He just says I like read it differently than I pronounce it. I don't know. When I read it out it's like should be pronounced Mangu.

No? Like French? Yeah, people always do that. I want you to die. If you got married you could take Wittig. I'm getting the crane and I'm not taking Wittig.

Would you? Would you take Wittig? No, you have to say Mojo. Maybe like a Kim Kardashian-Watt situation. You kind of blend them together. Mojo. Mojo. Mojo.

Mongeau. Mongeau. Mongeau sounds dope. That sounds like expensive as fuck. Should I just change it? Mongeau. Mongeau. I gave up maybe by 18 on the last name pronunciation.

It's like someone banging their face on a keyboard like if people just and i've heard everything in the world you never wanted to change it because no i was excited for it to be um in a fake way paul for a second because i was like god this is so nice like it's like smith kind of paul sounds dope no that's so that's basic i think you're like one of them like you're the sister if you had that last name oh my god i was kidding you look like you could be related to those jokes are just so easy and low-hanging fruit and i always make them and then after i make them i give myself the ick because it's like just don't make that fucking it's it's like you with the crane joke you know like it's like a tanacon joke like my

low-hanging fruit jokes i just i give myself the egg you guys could do a con together could be like why don't we do one together con con oh my god you're the con yeah they were obsessed with that in the vlog squad too they were so obsessed with you being like in prison or jail or whatever i've only been arrested for weed you know it's legal now they acted like oh my god jeff went to prison and all this stuff well i've been arrested a lot of times for weed and a lot of weed and every time i was arrested it wasn't like possession it was like 10 But, you know, it was always just for money, you know. And weed is a harmless drug. It just gets dangerous when the money, when there's a lot of money and a lot of cash involved.

But I got arrested for weed. Yeah. They made it seem like it was so, like, intense and scary. I'm a murderer. Well, that's, I mean, I feel like that was the whole, like, character thing at the time. Like, take the one thing and make it their whole personality. He was like the shiny new toy. Towards the end of 2018, like, oh, it was all about Jeff.

Like everyone was like obsessed with him. And we never talked. Like we just never, ever talked. Like I would see you at things and like never, ever talked. And I was like, oh, they really like this guy. I didn't really know all of that. I'm just washed up and disfigured. No, you're thriving.

No, it's actually amazing. That's what I was going to ask you because like, okay, so you were an influencer before David. You said you were like doing the barbershop before him. Yeah. Yeah. I always did the barbershop show. I kind of was always making videos around haircuts even back in like 2012, like when Twitter started.

That's so great. So you were doing it on Twitter? Yeah, but I would put like a song in the background. Like I wouldn't talk in it, but I was always making those barbershop videos because I always cut hair and I always wanted to like, you know, network and get get new clients and like I was cutting celebrities and I thought it was so cool because I moved from Staten Island and I was like able to do all these things and now I'm with Mac Miller was Khalifa like on tour oh my gosh and I was cutting the Jersey Shore when that show blew up and I'm like this 18 year old kid how did you get that just word of mouth so you'd be on

Twitter and they like hit you up or something? I met Big Sean that way. Wow. Yeah, he just, he was like, I'm in Miami. I need a barber. And people were just like, oh, this is the guy in Miami when you're in Miami Beach. Because everybody goes to Miami. Yeah. And when I got that job there, it was like just everything took off for me.

You were 18? That was like 19, 20 when I moved there. Wow. That's crazy. That's amazing. I didn't even have an ID to get in the clubs in Miami, but I was like working full time at that barbershop. Wow. And then you did the, because you were on Jersey Shore too, right? Like

an episode of it or something? Just in the background, like cutting their hair. I had like one line. Wait, you did get a line? That's amazing. He was the main character of the whole Never Live It Tower. If I had a line, I would be the main character. I was background and monofamily, like I was on the show but if I had a line, I would be the main character. You're on every show. You're on every show. But that's why I feel like with you, if you're like on all these shows, because you were on another one

too Bad Girls Club I kind of wish that you're on all these shows too because that's how you had to like hustle back in the day we're not so different you and me right that's what I'm thinking too

because back in the day you thought this is my end this is how I'm gonna like for whatever you needed to get into I thought I was gonna marry someone like a rich guy or something

I'm like oh I gotta get on this show maybe they'll see me I don't know I guess your motive was to cut hair or something but that was the way to get seen back in the day yeah not to say you're my age you're only 33 we'll get that noted but we're the same that's it we do have very similar that's what

i was trying to tell you i felt like you'd come here and have a realization that you guys would have more in common than you would think and she's also just the queen i'm shook by it too because i don't love a straight guy like i'm surprised i even married a straight guy like i really thought i was gonna marry like a girl or something like that like i i don't love a straight guy. Like I'm surprised I even married a straight guy. Like I really thought I was going to marry like a girl or something like that. Like I don't love straight bro energy. Did you actually think you were going to marry a girl? Part of me did. Yeah. The sex part is you know.

Yeah. I don't know. That was hard. Yeah. It's just not the same. Or it wasn't hard. Yeah. But yeah. I like a feminine energy type guy. You know what I mean? The bros are like you said, ride or die. Why were you, going back to this, why were you at the hospital that night? That's how I am.

Because I remember you said Jeff is coming, and I'm just like, why? No, I waited out in the lobby. But David was there, and I'm just like, why is everyone coming to this? We were just rolling together. Yeah, like it's like a fucking. We were just out shooting. But why didn't you guys wait in the car? I think it was going to be a while. It definitely wasn wasn't they were there 10 minutes like okay bye i think you should just like really just say he you know like i didn't

know i was we were filming you there we were just driving around filming and then you know that's crazy we were just driving around filming it's like let's get a starbucks like you know how it went we would just go look for jokes and content yeah yeah that's why i'm saying that's crazy oh that we went that we went there but no did he have his camera he did hold it he wasn't recording it but he did he did have it so i knew you guys were already someone was filming to me you know you're like i'm so high on everything like i didn't know like i was screaming my head off they had a shoot with out of van because as soon as i saw david and jason i started like running so i like i need that that sounds fun they shackled my me down because i was just like and then david left because he like triggered the f out of me and i think you know who knows what

that other guy did i would love to just go to like inexpensive rehab for like a month i always say this what kind of rehab like a mental rehab like a celebrity one like the ones that they just go and you know like the one pete davidson's in and out of all the time like a malibu like we ride a horse like they're expensive well you guys can afford it definitely like ketamine in the pharmacy if you needed it yes you know like it'd be so fun it'd be so fun get healed from those definitely for sure i went to like alhambra i was like this like free when they put you when they force you in that one really yeah and i was like in there i was always so scared like there's so many times in my life where i needed rehab so bad and just didn't go because I was scared.

No, I've never been. You never had. I DIY'd it, though. You get a little Airbnb far away, and it's like, DIY at home rehab. Do you ever do therapy or anything? Yeah, I've done a lot of therapy, but I need to get back into it. Not consistently. Now we just do too many podcasts.

He thinks podcasts are therapy, I swear to God. They kind of are. They are in a weird way. I feel that way, too. I'm like, this is my therapy right now. But no, it's obviously like... That's how I feel with Brooke every week. Like getting to just talk about like.

Well, your guys' is very therapeutic because you're like friends and you guys just talk about stuff. Yeah. Like we were more cracking jokes about like the public and random shit and whatever. But Brooke and I all like kind of delve into like our dating lives and random. Yeah. Like shit. What happened to your guys' podcast?

The Friends With Benefits. I think I like trademarked everything. I thought it was like going done. Yeah. We were going to ride that frenemies wave. We were going to take that. Very opposite, but that opposite but yeah no that could have been huge that could have been i think that i was just going back into canceled and it like i thought i could take it all on at least and you were the first one like i was still so down you were like tana listen cancel is

gonna take up so much of your time and all this shit like let's let's wait till the right time we just said right we just said like let's get let's get canceled going for you again because she was in like a shit deal before that and that's what so many podcasters do they think that they need to be in like an agency or you need some sort of like scumbag producer or something but you could just do it like this look at moses you got your husband just he's not gonna fuck you over you know he's not gonna rob you that's so true and he did the reason why canceled came back so amazing and so fluently i fully accredit to jeff he like gave me his whole team and i work with really like all the people who produce canceled like even the ones you met are his team essentially or like you don't need somebody like taking all your money and then

paying you out for it just yeah and just your friends like the fact that they're my friends and they like they care about the show and care about me and i you know it's it's great oh my god that's that's crazy so you it's your people your production team so you guys were just like okay we'll do friends with benefits like a different time yeah well just like how i said she pulled me out like got me shooting again like i didn't know if i was going to continue doing it like you know i also owe her for you know getting me going again on the podcast because i who knows i'm going to stop doing that shit. I'm motivated by like, you know, competition or revenge. I'm very petty. So like two different things, competition, revenge. Well, both of those. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very petty. So like when I, when I see people wanting to banish me and like, you know, oh,

that guy's crazy. Fuck him him follow you know it motivates me more to do more like i want to make it more now you know was that their mo for you when you when that all that happened was that you were crazy or what was the way it's mo for everybody that it gets banished and some people you know deserved it but you know look at us yeah but i think that it's like you need valid because you you did get pushed into that you know like it's not like exactly you just went crazy on your own people making you know how many nights i wanted to go back and drink like i really thought about it because i stopped drinking right before i like started hanging out with everybody which was crazy because so much of

their content was getting drunk and partying and i had to adapt to that new lifestyle and i was like ready to fucking blow it and i was like ready to fucking blow it all i was like what's the point of even not drinking i got half a face you know let me just fucking uh but no i saw david in vegas like six months ago or like four months ago that it's the thing i see my memory you know like i know it was around was it around like four yeah so um i just got pissed off seeing them around at parties you know like after hearing what the courts are saying like they just try to dismiss shit and just fucking call you batshit crazy so i was like yo if you're gonna be out here doing that you can't do that like pick one

or the other it's either gonna stay in hiding and make those lies and accusations or don't come out to parties that you know i'm like i was clearly there and now we're crossing better what how did yeah uh it was like a vegas like just you know i was there with mike and a bunch of people so i pull him aside let's just have a talk you know like it's probably not you're not supposed to do that but i don't give a fuck i got nothing to hide so he was like i know why you're talking about you or why you're talking about me you want me to respond and i was like i'm talking about myself and shit. I'm living with you, narcissist. Fuck. You think I'm talking about you to get a response? Yeah, do respond.

He said that? Respond. That's what they... They think they're higher, like above people because you can't talk about shit. I was like literally engaged. You're just not talking about it because you've got shit to hide.

You know you'll get caught up in a lie. That's why you're not talking. So did he end up paying for all your hospital bills? That's going to be fun when we get to that in trial. Because Natalie said yes, they did trial because now i said yes they did and he said yes they did and you were like i can't wait to expose natalie's lies she's next level like like crazy shit that's something i want to avoid because it's a big part of the case yeah she's scary but yeah the truth will come out is in your state because you said you're kind of like

tanked you could like couldn't buy a house or something like that uh it did affect my credit yeah it wasn't like it completely crushed my credit i was able to fix it i'm coming back but yeah i did fuck up my credit it was annoying you know but there's something to that that i i really can't get into and i know it sounds like i'm trying to not talk about it but it's like a heavy piece of evidence that is a big part of why the case is going on no save it save it because you're doing such a smart thing like just so many people are either they can't they usually can't afford it and people going against someone like david who has so much money like that's why people don't sue yeah it's scary it's fucked to sue someone i like can't sue anyone it costs so much

because and and uh i have such a strong case because it's all out there you know it's on video and the lawyers will take it pro bono if they believe in you so it's all out there you know it's on video and the lawyers will take a pro bono if they believe in you so it's yours yeah they just take a cut that's a big cut but it's you know at least i don't have to it's millions of dollars because they could honestly he's got me there he could keep spending money and get the best lawyers and just drag me out but not in this case because these guys are like wow the whole firm is backing me up because, you know. That makes me so happy because that's what I was worried about because every time that happens, if you sue someone with more money, they do it just so you like go broke. Like it'll just happen.

Like the people who always – and someone like David will just like drain you for sure. He'll just keep it going for a long time. So you just can't afford it anymore. It's stressful. Like I have to talk to the lawyers a lot. But, you know, I'd rather be doing what i'm doing than having to pay and just keep paying and paying and paying and pushing because for sure it'll probably get pushed years you know oh my god wait really so what like realistically like how long can you push you can't just keep just

missing things and stuff like that you have to like eventually go to trial right yeah i hope so um oh my gosh we can show up and be in the jury and we're like cute matching blazers. That's crazy. I don't think we can be in the jury. Not the jury. What's the other thing? Be in the jury. I would love that. Do you have any bias against him?

We're like, no, no idea who he is. Like in the audience. I don't know what it's called either. Is it the audience? What is the thing? Yeah, the audience. The audience of it. That, I would go.

I would go to your trial for sure. Oh my gosh. We would look so f***ed. Didn't he hire Johnny Depp's, like, lawyers or something like that? No, no. He's got some f***ing guy that he's, like, a big shot. But also, he's also got his allegations on him, too. You know?

Like, I can't wait for that. I want to represent myself in there. Oh, my God. Maybe don't do that. Just have Ted Bundy over here. Back to Frenemies. Yeah. You go in there and be like, I'm the same way i'm always like oh i really

would want to but um like that position and shit like when you're in those rooms and they they ask you all those questions like i can't wait for them to dig and try to get me to fucking like make me uncomfortable and stuff because i'm already ready i have a response for everything you know like i play this out every day a lot of these people try to put it behind them and act like it never happened but i can't no you like that kind of thing you can't like my stuff okay it's a bad breakup whatever like put it behind but like this is like something that you just can't like you're physically like every day can't see like you're paying all these hospital bills like all this stuff's happening also the trauma also the way people look at you your

reputation all that stuff like that you know i don't think it's as bad as it could have been like you really could have been like tanked and luckily there's so many people that just like see the truth and they're just like, oh shit. Like, and that's the first time it happened with David, by the way, you're like the first one where people just started looking like, oh wait, what about this, this and this? Because like you came out with your story and people were like, oh, maybe he is like kind of a shit person, you know?

So I think that was good. I think that was like a big thing. I owe you a big thank you for that. I mean it when I say that, like actually know you you had my back you opened my eyes my eye you opened my eye well i know i just i felt like it's just one of those things where you're just like how can you just keep getting away with this and this was such a big thing and it was it was kept under wraps for how long like six or seven months right probably a good year yeah a year because it was like june of 2020 yeah and it was like you came on in like february

2021 so it was like a long time 25th i'm, if this gets swept under the rug, like it's crazy. And like I said, maybe it was like more selfish too, because I was like, this needs to be like exposed. This is like crazy, but. Yeah. I was just never trying to be like a guy that's like on Tosh.0 for one of those videos. And that's like the last thing. Like imagine I did really quit after that, you know, and that's just the last thing I'm

remembered for, you know? Yeah. So good thing you didn't quit. Yeah. Would you take back anything like besides the excavator and thing but like would you take back like anything differently like meeting david like being in his vlogs or you're like you know if you would have asked me this back then i would have probably said like i'll take back going on on onto your as a show back then but no i needed that more than ever now i could really look back and see that. Like I always bring up that line, like eventually terrible memories turn into great ones or like just bad things turn to good things. You know, it's just you don't see it at the time when you're going through it.

But now looking back, like that was actually I thought it was the worst thing ever and it was the best thing for me to do. And yeah, like I would take back the fucking accident, obviously. But also if that didn't happen then maybe i'd still be there and i wouldn't be happy with myself now or something worse happens or someone else because like even remember nick when nick did the motorcycle thing were you there were you in that group that he did this like motorcycle thing and the motorcycle like he literally like crashed his head into like cement or something like that and like everyone just like covered it up and like didn't say anything i'm pretty sure it was nick i can't

remember i don't know the names that well but it's just crazy yeah that like life that's just not a sustainable lifestyle something was bound to happen and it stopped i mean they really did stop after that so in a way it was like thank god you know what i mean because there's just like we're unstoppable for so long yeah and i always think the same thing i'm like thank god imagine it had been corinna i like always think about that because it was corinna on the excavator first right which she probably would have died which is crazy like why would they like let her not to say like not to be misogynistic but like why would you let this girl like on an excavator when like i guess you they think of you as like this like daredevil stunt guy he went to prison or whatever but like corinna like corinna was on it for yeah

i know and it was fine she'd be dead if if that happened to her she'd be dead her because she's a smaller girl it would have crushed her skull and you know it's just funny like i don't watch any of their shit like i have them all muted you know like i don't see it oh i unfollowed but like other people like i don't want to unfollow certain people because they didn't do nothing wrong to me you know like i can't blame them for sticking with like you know they they don't believe in themselves i can't be mad at people because they don't have self-confidence to think they could do shit on their own you know like jason he gave me a lot of opportunity he would put me on stage like go open for me and all that stuff like i'll forever be grateful for

that but you still don't even believe in yourself enough to try and do shit on your own you think you need this guy and you'll stick with him even though you know that he did a lot of wrong shit you know and he wronged you he literally quit your show i don't give a fuck you know you're not making money you got played bro yeah yeah you're literally just sitting there like taking all that so you know there's i don't i don't like to talk about the other guys because they didn't really do anything wrong to me they just stuck by him and he made it that you needed to pick a side so they go where the money goes i feel like that's a lot of people but now the shit's all dried up he ain't paying nobody he's doing fucking snapchats is that really is is that worth it for your career to try to be in the background of somebody's

Snapchat? And he's not generous. No, he's paying people to like be in his Snapchat. No, fuck no. That's what I'm saying. Like, you want to call me an employee? All right, cool. You know?

That's so weird. He called you that. It's like, where was my paycheck? Where's my W-2? You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Well, going on a happier note then, what is coming up for you that you're just like excited about besides like something that has nothing to do with your eye injury you're not getting married like what's something that

you're like excited about right now that you're like um thank you that just crushed me well i'm hoping for the wedding but you know what mari told me that he like was so sad he can't be here to hear you say shit like that i love him Amari. You're never going to find a wife or kid out of family. She'll say it's so kind and it's so c**t. I'm trying to end it positively. I'm only 33. I'm not ready for a relationship.

I'm 34 in a couple months. I'm joking anyway. It's a meme. I should be in a relationship. The barbershop show is steaming along nicely. We did another show, a partnership with HIMS, where they bought a season and they want to, you know, I'll continue that partnership with them. It's a massive partnership.

They're a huge company. What happened to Axe Body Spray? Are they done with you? I've been sponsored by a lot of those Old Spice's acts. Old Spice. But you remember they like dropped you or something, right? After the accident, yeah, because I couldn't get the content out in time because my face was all smashed up, which I, like,

there was a lot of other stuff that happened between them, and I took things like that personal, which I probably shouldn't have. But, yeah, then we had like a little beef, where I was like, Old Spice gives you lice, and then that caught on because it was such a funny saying, and then everybody started running with that. I live for Old Spice. Old Spice gives you lice. I like an Old Spice fragrance. They have good prices and stuff like that, but

I have the... Sponsored by Old Spice today. No, I have the product brand. Our shit's way better. Yeah, you have the Jeff. You gave it to Moses. That was so nice of you. I gave Moses the pomade. It's my favorite product that we have.

It was our first one that we put out. Yeah, I love that one. A pomade, that's what we need because I'm like, you need to slick something. You need something with his hair, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're launching a hair oil next week, like a healthy hair oil. I'll send you a nice package. This is actually good packaging. You did this yourself? This is so hard to start a brand, like a healthy hair oil. I'll send you a nice package. This is actually good packaging.

You did this yourself. This is so hard to start a brand, like a brand like that. A lot of money, yeah. It costs a lot of money. But I believe in it, and that's what I've always wanted to do, like before YouTube, before anything. So when I finally got in a position to, oh, I could just sell this shit online. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's something that's going on the show and the hymn show and podcast is great you know the podcast is still going strong because you said you might not do it no i didn't i at the time i was like should i just fucking fuck all this shit you know but no it's doing great now i love it even even now like i'm like i just lost the, and I'm doing better than ever. I feel better than ever. I feel free. I want to move to New York. Oh, my gosh.

Is that tea? Can we say that, that you guys are moving to New York, that you're getting an apartment together? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I don't know if we'll get an apartment together. We're talking about that. Oh, you want to get it together?

I thought you were going to get it together. She wants to move in this really nice building. It's super bougie. I want to get a place in Soho, I want to open a barber shop in Soho. And I want to have like a flagship shop. There is a lot of stuff that I – That's your man. He's trying to make a living for you guys and you're like –

What? Is that lame? Is haircuts lame? No, I just want the bougie apartment. Where's the bougie apartment at? It's in the Lower East Side. It's actually not in a bougie area. It's just a bougie apartment.

I'm obsessed with it. It's like in the middle of the projects and there's just one 80 story building that's everything though yeah because for the price it's everything because you get this nice ass building because of the area because you see on tiktok people in like a like a room this big you know so it's like if you have a big bougie thing in new york that means you're like made it for sure yeah yeah you guys should get the bougie one yeah you're right i want you to be happy i'll be happy though they got a cold plunge in the building you know that bougie one. I want you to be happy. Yeah, you're right. I want you to be happy. I'll be happy, though. They got a cold plunge in the building. Oh, my gosh.

That bougie one, I already checked it out. Cold plunge in the building. I'll be in that shit all day long just sitting in it like a hot tub. They say you should start your day with a cold plunge. I just could never. I would be so angry. Wait, why? They said it's supposed to refresh you.

I'm like a cat, like a black cat. The idea of starting my day underwater sounds, A, miserable, and, B, it's supposed to refresh you. I'm like a cat, like a black cat. Like the idea of starting my day like underwater sounds A, miserable, and B, it's so cold. Yeah. I like the idea of trying it. That's why I've never been your type. No, but our opposites attract. You're the ying and the yang. Exactly.

And you just have so much like love and like respect for each other. And I feel like that's just not around in hetero couples these days. You know what I mean? Like the respect is never there. I mean, the way i'm telling you to circle back at the beginning the way he texted like say the say the words you said again you were just like yeah i really like found the one in her or something that's like i found someone special one lie thing you know which one is lying today we have like three you were like you were

like um i love you guys together. And I was like, yeah, she's incredible. I'm so lucky that I found her. I'm so lucky that I found her. Done. We're besties, I swear to God. No, it's not. But I appreciate the ultimate.

She's the ultimate. We don't have a ship name. Tef. Hetero couple. Tef is cute. I love Tef. That's our podcast name. Fuck friends or benefits.

Hetero couple. Oh my God, yes. That's like not annoying. You know or Benefits. Hetero Couple. Oh, my God. Yes. That's, like, not annoying, you know? I feel like so many hetero couples podcasts are so annoying. I'm just like, okay. Yeah. We're over it.

Because I like the, like, I don't know, the chemistry of it all. You guys are going to New York together. I just think it's so cute. Would you do an artificial baby or would you try to go the way, the vaginal way? Artificial as hell. You would do the. Or not at all. Maybe we'll find out. Maybe through, like, a glory hole, you know? If it wasificial as hell. Or not at all. Maybe through like a glory hole.

You know, if it was like through a hole. You can't do that to some mouse. Then we won't even, oh, it's for the mouse. You can't get pregnant in the mouse. Maybe some sort of like through. You put a vagina up to a glory hole, that's a thing. Wait, so you would, you just don't want to look at her, but you would put it in?

No. I have a savior too, I swear to God. What if that scars us? Like we can't podcast anymore. We can't make eye contact ever again, but you would put it in. No. I have a say here, too. I swear to God. What if that scars us? Like, we can't podcast anymore. We can't make eye contact ever again. Now I already feel like it happened. Like, we can't make eye contact. Sincerely, no, there's no.

The thought of fucking you terrifying me. She just cared for you, though. She was there for your surgeries. No one else was up there with you. You know what I mean? Mike was there. Kyle was there. Oscar was there.

You know, everybody was there. My whole crew was there. I swear. We are actually besties, and I love it. I, like, really do think if we, like, tried anything there. My whole crew was there. No, I swear. We are actually besties and I love it. I like really do think if we like tried anything else, we'd kill each other. Like, we're just, we're very different as much as we are very alike

and I think our friendship is awesome. What's your signs of Gemini? Cancer. Oh, your end of June? Yeah. Okay, and you are? I don't know. Sagittarius. I don't know. Oh yeah, you're December. Christmas baby. Okay, And you are? I don't know. Sagittarius. I don't know. Oh, yeah. You're December. You're December.

Yeah. You're a Christmas baby. Okay. That kind of makes sense, though, because you're actually really sensitive. Like, kids are really sensitive and emotional. So, it is. I mean, it's inevitable. Yeah.

It's going to happen. It's in the stars. Oh, my gosh. What's your sign? I'm a Taurus. You're a Taurus. A little bull. You know what I mean?

Taurus men suck, right? Taurus men suck. Yes. Taurus women. What are you, Moses? Scorpio. Oh, okay. Scorpio.. Which is crazy Is that January? October. Oh okay

It's Halloween. Halloween. You don't do astrology? You're not an astrology person? Uh no. I'm not at all Really? Yeah I don't know much. You'd think I would be you know cause I love some delusional shit A little delusional yeah. I remember being so in love at one point and like people would say my signs were so compatible with this person and I'd be like oh it's in the stars but like no oh i feel like the stars do align like

there's like i'm very like spiritual now i believe in like the universe and like shit like that you know what i mean and synchronicity and all that i've just never gotten into astrology unless i want to have sex with a girl i'll pretend they're really into that shit they're like oh yeah i'm really into that but the universe wants everyone to win including you i feel like the you may think, has dealt you a lot of like, what do they call them? No, I'm not looking for sympathy. I genuinely feel good. Like, all this shit.

She was just, that's what I was going to say. I'm most happy when I'm uncomfortable. Like, right now, with all this shit, like, I have no house, and I'm happier than ever. No, but I feel like you've always been like that, like, through everything. Because did you lose your dog, Nerf? Yeah. And you were so like. That hurt.

That was my boy. That hurt. I know. but no and it's like at that time because that was after the accident right that was and so you're just going through one bad thing after one bad and then you said oh my studio's flooded i was just like oh my god i can't i can't look at that scene where i'm like crying when i lost the vision when the retina detached and i walk out of the room and i was genuinely over everything like i was was like, fuck, my fucking life's over. So if you lose your vision, it's really fucking bad. Like they'll do surveys where they're like, would you rather wake up dead, which I know that's not a real thing, or wake up blind, you know? And most people just say dead, just like kill me, you know? So I know it was just one side, but at the time I was like, this is going to fucking fuck up everything.

And then I walked out and he followed me out, my boy, you know, and he followed me out. And he was blind himself at that time but he just went off senses and where he followed me out yeah but that's like a sign but we get we give him a real nice memorial like we give him a skydiver's funeral where we went up in a hot air balloon and we spread his ashes and it was sunrise so it looked like he beamed right into heaven and then we jumped out after i because i have my skydive license from that you know oh yeah we didn't get into this i mean we were supposed to wrap it up here but i just have to ask you real quick we're doing another show oh that's right but what was the skydiving era like what what you were doing it yeah yeah so david was doing that

big comeback video and he had like different um things like this could be your thing like if you want to do the skydiving part and the uh like this there was like a another fucking slingshot thing or something and i was like you know what i hate heights i'll do that because i want to get over that fear like i want to push myself and then wasn't there a point though where everyone had to get their license and they were like jumping out of a plane for david every day but he was just like at home yeah that was us no i mean he did after because i was like yo it'll uh mean a lot to me if you, like, experience this skydiving. After your accident?

Yeah, because you feel like you're almost going to die. You know, jumping out of a plane. After the accident? Wait. After the accident, yeah. I mean, I did say that's what I wanted, but really I wanted it not to be blamed on me on a podcast or your whole audience, like, attempted to fucking put it on me a year later. Did you plan on just cutting the parachute? No. No. I just wanted him to, like, go through some shit. on me on a podcast or your whole audience like attempted to fucking put it on me No, I just wanted him to like go through some shit, you know, but it didn't really work like that He had like two guys like a bunch of guys jump with him

Like normally you just get one instructor He had like three and they were like all holding on me making sure like real treatment, you know But I'm just fucking fly out shit by himself. He never tried to have you? No, heck no. Oh, my God. Like, I would have a heart attack just, like, thinking about it. I would have to take so much Xanax that it would defeat the purpose. I wouldn't remember it. Oh, my God.

If you take Xanax, you'll probably just, like, not know to, like, land. Don't you have to land with your feet or something? You got to land with your feet, yeah. Oh, heck no. That part scares me. Like, people break their legs and stuff, and I just would be, like, also, I feel like there's a weight limit to falling out of a plane. Like, I feel like you just go faster if you are heavier.

You just, like, fall down quicker. No. Yeah, I think so. Well, yeah, there is, but you're not over it. No, you're not over that. I'm just saying. That's how it works. If you push yourself out of a plane and push me out of a plane,

I'm going to fall faster. I'm going to go to the ground harder than you are. No, my friend's 250 pounds. Yeah, he'll... How tall? He's, like, 6'2". Okay, so he's big. I'm 250 and I'm 5'3", so I'm going to hit harder. No, no. And he, like... two okay so he's big i'm 250 and i'm five three so i'm gonna hit harder no no

he and he like he he would he would no you're not you're not no you're not 250 i'm pretty close not too far off yeah 240 he just like i don't know he's just like an awkward shaped guy and one time he jumped out and his one time he jumped out of the plane and his parachute hit the door so like opened right in the plane. He's just such a. Oh, that's my biggest fear. Oh, my God. Because he's bigger.

People are a big guy. Yeah. It's not. That would happen to me. But imagine like your parachute gets caught in the plane and you're just getting yanked by this thing. Wait. So I'm so confused.

His big comeback video was like a jackass. I think everyone has to do something crazy. You never came out because he almost killed a guy. You. You know? Yeah. Yes. Tag yourself.

Oh, my God. Dan, then you weren't a part of this. No. I like, honestly, way before the accident, I just, we just kind of, I had stopped being in the vlogs. I don't know. I remember at one point, too, he like would say like, I don't want to film with you as much because of like the, all the, he didn't like the Paul brothers and that was like a whole thing

and then we just kind of like went our separate ways anyways. Yeah, it's funny. That was funny. That's so weird. Yeah, he never did. I remember I went over it. Don't do impulsive,

like nah, like no vlogs, but I'm not impulsive. That was the rule. And now I'm a fucking third host. I'm like. Wait, is that real? I thought it was done.

I thought it was over. No, I'll just pop in when they ask me to, which is like once a month. You should be the third host. Their third host is always awful. I do like the impulsive boys. Their third host always suck. Yeah yeah but it's a lot it's

it's a lot to do the guest episodes like if it's just mike and logan i'll do those all day but to have another show that i gotta research a guest for and then i'm gonna look like a dumb ass because i'm like not trying and you know i always say that with guests it's always hard when there's like like they're three and i was on impulsive once and it was just like there's three people talking to you like it's just too hard like i want to talk to like one person you know what i mean it's hard yeah it's like but that's interesting that'd to talk to like one person. You know what I mean? It's hard. It's like – but that's interesting. That would be good.

Maybe you can revive that show for them if you're on it. I'd watch it more. Thanks. I'm not – no shade again. I love them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get it. Trust me. I get it.

I see a lot of it. Oh my god. So you – I forgot about the skydiving. There's so much – oh my god. There's so much more. Let's do another. Can we take a 10-minute intermission? Yeah.

What are you guys going to do in 10 minutes? TikTok. Oh, okay. Drink some water. what are you guys going to do in 10 minutes? TikTok. Oh, okay. Drink some water. What are you thinking? I don't know. In the 10 minutes? Oh, you want to just like...

On a stretch. Okay. I'm not sure why. We're going to come back, do Jeff FM. I'm homeless right now. Thank you for giving me a studio to film in. Oh, my God. I love it.

I know. I was trying to explain it to Moses. I'm just like, oh, we're going to switch. He's like, in the pink studio? And I was like, yeah, I think. I don't know. It's all I got right now. I love it. Where were you in the last one? Where were you guys in the pink studio and I was like yeah I think I don't know It's all I got right now Where were you in the last one where were you guys in the last year it was like this

We rent a place in New York. It's like a communal set that anybody could rent You guys are so bougie I love it Oh you're so funny look at you You guys are just the bougie lifestyle We were literally in like the west wing of your house Oh my god But you made this money not showing anything on O.F. I had to do hardcore everything with everybody you know what I mean Oh my god I We entered through a separate like. But you made this money not showing anything on OF. I had to do hardcore everything with everybody. You know what I mean?

Oh my god. I was just doing the most. And got the least. You know, we have to talk. I want to talk to you all about OF off camera. I have so many questions. When I said you made $10 million, I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, just not showing it.

I'm like, oh, so amazing. People are stupid, dude. No, you keep on. People are dumb as fuck. Like the feet pics. I don't even know, dude. I live for your, I'm subscribed. But I pay for everything.

Everything is an unlocked. Oh my God. I'll just start sending it to you. I love it. When he sent me the voice memos, I was loving it. Mo, this looks over your phone. He's like, what the fuck is Janice doing right now? No, I love OF girls.

Like I really do. I think they're great. But they're just so. It's so fun. I just love nudes and everything like that. More than anything. What about a viewing party What about

O.F. Straight Nope Ew Hate it Wanna throw up Like honestly Like I just

I'm so turned off By every straight man Like it's crazy I don't know It's just like As a man Why are you doing that You know

Like just bro energy When you started When we started this interview And you were just like Yeah you know You gotta be with the boys I'm just like Right away

Just no Because I'm sorry If a girl that I was close with did something i'd be like well like let's have compassion did i say that crazy what was i talking about you were talking about how like i thought i started off by thanking you for well maybe i do i'm a little delulue i get things mixed up too no but you did say something oh i like this what is this i feel so young when i met tana i just was like, we went to Buffalo Wild Wings. She makes everything young. I feel the opposite. we're Buffalo Wild Wings

and you're so young. Because she's just always called me. Buffalo Wild Wings. It made me feel, it made me feel because that was also David's spot.

I'm like, oh my God, this feels like 2018 and we're with the cool kids. It felt fun. That one, I was tired though. I was dead.

That was such a fun night. I was dead the rest of the time. Like I was, this is like seriously my energy back up. I know I loved it though. I loved it because I knew you like came out later for me.

Oh my gosh. No, that was everything. I love you guys I knew you like came out later for me. Oh my gosh. No, that was everything. I love you guys. And you guys are both sober now. So there's another match, right? You haven't, you're still dry? Yeah, I'm sober. I'm pretty sober.

For me. He wants legal. That doesn't really count. Oh my God. Is that what the thing is that you always have? No, that's just nicotine. I'm trying to quit that though. I have like, I have like emphysema or something.

Really? Are you? I was going to try the patch and then I never did, but. I called her a Vegas hooker. Thank you. Oh, that's cute. I used to call myself a hooker. I think that's so cute. I always I never did I called her a Vegas hooker Thank you I always call myself a hooker I love hooker I called you a Vegas white woman

I was going to let you go with your lie With the patch it would just be funny Because we were at fashion week and she gets all decked out And then she has this patch on her arm It would be so funny It's so unbranded for her We have to talk about that too on your podcast because like honestly like why how are you guys there why how what do you mean such backhanded questions like why the fuck would they invite you we made them viral

yes what okay this is also confusing to me because i saw you guys like front row like eating candy and i'm just like how did that happen? I told you I eat candy. That's just, that's my whole diet is just candy. Were you guys sponsored by, like, the candy? No, I fucking went. It was Sour Patch. I wish. It was boring.

People don't talk about that enough. Like, the fashion shows are fucking, it can get boring. Where do you go? I mean, everyone goes, all the influencers and shit, for kind of, like, the exposure. Oh. You know, like, and it is fun. Like, all the parties and events and stuff at Fashion Week, all the other stuff is super fun and everyone comes out so it's it's fun you know what i mean but the fashion you know if you're going to a bunch of fashion shows eventually it's like

you're just sitting there like okay you're not into the fashion but you're right that question was was a good one like why the fuck were you guys there and it was i love it i mean i live for it like no truly i don't know how people are there i mean that sincerely because i've never been invited to anything in my life, like a red carpet or nothing. I'm like, how do you get go to these things? Is it a manager? Is it a PR person? My stylist helps with a lot of that, I guess, kind of. But even just, yeah, just friends, like doing different stuff.

We're fashionable creators. I think it's fun to bring him to show. What are you talking about? I mean, you don't talk about fashion, do you? What are you talking about? No, literally. I feel like, I know I don't have no bedazzles on me or anything like that, but I feel like I'm doing it right.

I don't know. Your hair. Hair style. No, the hair's not even there. You're a barber, but we can't see your hair. It'll be on my next, on my show. We'll take the caps off for Jeff Beb. I'm excited to be on it.

I don't know if your audience is going to vibe with me. When you said to do a pod swap, I'm like, they're going to. Deal with it. You know what? They're going to. If they like me, they're going to like you. No, that's not true. Bro people, they don't. They're like, Trisha's so annoying. So skip this one.

I mean, whatever. I bring Tana on all the time and they didn't like her at first but now they love her. Wow, I didn't even know that. Did you make that up again? They're just very careful and protective of me finding new friends

because you know I've had such a bad history I love his audience though really I actually really do and I'm not just saying it's 50-50 men and women it's down the middle and it's like it's a lot more like sane people like I feel like I don't know how to explain like your comments are very like sane

in comparison to like my comments yeah just like supportive like you know yeah yeah positive i get a lot of positivity i'm like normal oh my god yeah that's amazing because especially coming out of the situation like i feel like you i just look at hate for stuff that happened like like 15 years ago literally if we do like clout chasing shit like yeah we'll get some hate for that but at the end of the day it's a business you know like we're trying to keep the lights on here you know i feel you even if it's like a like a little clout play or like a lot i hate even using these words you i'm cringing already and i know you're about to say something you're so old you're

so old i'm so old well i'm older than you so i'm like way old barely okay not if i had i don't want the year and a half yeah so i get it well this is i feel like this is genuine because we actually knew each other we actually knew each other we actually knew each other well we know each other we're friends but we knew each other at one point

for like a few days I would see you here and there yeah but I think we're good now you know what I never did care for you too much back then but I think now it's

you know we're good okay I think that's why the Starbucks episode I was like Jeff Jeff Jeff because I was just like you never talk to me

when people don't acknowledge me I get so mad me too well that's why I did it. Because I think they hate me. And I build this whole narrative. No, before the Starbucks thing, you always ignored me. When I was still in the friend group, like Christmas parties and stuff, you just never

talk to me. You'd always like, it's a boy thing. Boys like to talk to boys. And people call me bitter or whatever. But I'm like, it's just like common courtesy. I agree. It's a boy thing. And I am the same way.

If someone doesn't talk to me, I automatically think they hate me. That shit was premeditated. But I'll tell you about that. In the group. In the, when we were. In Starbucks. Well, oh well okay that was you were just being a little bitch see i viewed it as like i viewed this is what i wanted from my but but i yeah let's do let's save it for mine that's the one thing i had in my notes i was like i want the starbucks store you get all the i know i'm sorry i have 5000 more things to say so we can talk about it on yours.

Let's do it. Intermission, TikTok. I'm excited. Do you do TikTok? She doesn't. Okay, yeah. I don't even know what the fuck. I love how you do them too. You guys just film something and then you put something over the head.

I mean, I can't see it anyway. So it's like, you know what I mean? I might as well just... He doesn't know. Thanks for watching, guys. We'll be on TikTok next. Bye, girls and gays. Next episode, Trisha's going to talk about all the girls and the gays.

That's all we care about. Thank you for having me always. Thank you. I don't know if I served a purpose here at all today by the way. Are you kidding me? Don't I? Come every week, yeah.

Oh my god no. I will come every week. I'm shook. I'm shook how much people love you. Okay. I love you so much. I love you. I love you.

I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.