Just Trish - Joey Graceffa’s Puppy Rescue Is a SCAM!? + Addressing the KATSEYE Drama... | Just Trish Ep. 273

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

Trish didn't make it to the Met Gala, but she WAS the queen of the Meat Gala, honey. Plus, we address the KATSEYE drama after Harry Daniels potentially exposed what is going on with Manon's hiatus. An...d Joey Graceffa faces backlash for his viral pregnant dog rescue, while Clavicular gets called out for his most disgusting accusations yet. 💖🪩THANK YOU TO NOCD FOR SPONSORING💖🪩 If you're struggling with OCD or unrelenting intrusive thoughts, NOCD can help. Book a free 15 minute call to get started: https://learn.nocd.com/WHATWESAID 💖🪩THANK YOU TO SEATGEEK FOR SPONSORING💖🪩 Use my code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/TRISH2026 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount 💖🪩THANK YOU TO RO FOR SPONSORING💖🪩 Go to https://www.ro.co/Trish to see if your insurance covers GLP-1s—for free. 💖🪩PRE-ORDER TRISHA'S NEW MEMOIR NOW!!!!!💖🪩 https://linktr.ee/trishapaytas_ 💖🪩GET TICKETS TO TRISHA'S LONDON SHOW!💖🪩 http://royalalberthall.com/tickets/events/2026/trisha-paytas 💖🪩SUBSCRIBE TO MOSES' COOKING CHANNEL💖🪩 https://www.youtube.com/@mosescookingvideos 💖🪩FOR EXTENDED EPISODES AND BONUS CONTENT💖🪩 https://www.patreon.com/cw/JustTrish 💖🪩NEW JUST TRISH MERCH!💖🪩 https://justtrish.com Subscribe to Oscar!:  @oscargracey  Edited by  @jimmywhetzel  https://linktr.ee/jimmywhetzel TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 HELLO UGLIES, ARBYS, PROJECT HEALTHY MINDS 8:00 HACKS 17:00 ARBYS COMMERCIAL WITH OSCAR 25:00 KATSEYE DANCE CLASS, HARRY DANIELS DRAMA 32:00 EUPHORIA, SNL, OLIVIA RODRIGO, JAKE PAUL, JOSHUA BASSETT, SABRINA CARPENTER 48:00 ALIX EARLE VS ALEX COOPER ON SNL 53:50 MET GALA, ANNA WINTOUR, DEVIL WEARS PRADA 2 1:09:00 TRISHA SAW MICHAEL 1:22:00 KARDASHIANS, NORTH WEST RELEASES EP AT 12, ARBYS BREAK, VINE COMING BACK 1:41:00 WHITNEY LEAVITT, CLAVICULAR LAWSUIT 1:49:00 JOEY GRACEFFA CANCELLED Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy2A0jf5lYUYQxi7iKHmHhQ/join Follow Just Trish on Social Media https://www.instagram.com/justtrishpod/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Actually, girl, Josh, the girl with the blonde hair. We love you, girl. You were only 17. You are so valid for everything. And welcome to, my, I can't do an impression. I cannot do an impression. I'm going to act a tough. One more time.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Okay. Hello, uglies. Welcome to the Jess Trish podcast. If you're watching this, then that means you're not at the Met Gala and your absolute trash, honey. Today we have a very special episode. We'll be critiquing everybody on the internet, and that is what we do. Me and this, Bob.
Starting point is 00:00:58 And we love it. Thank you so much for being here. Whose phone was that? Fire immediately. Mine. Can fire yourself. Oh, my gosh. Anyways, we have a very exciting podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:13 You guys, so much fun, so much to talk about. We're just two stars over here. me and Oscar Gracie, who may get too big for the podcast one day. I do fear that because people love you so much, which thank God, because it's nothing worse than having someone on a podcast
Starting point is 00:01:32 and that person's so annoying. You know what I mean? Which, by the way, most podcasts, I think that. I always think like, why is that other person there? You know what I mean? Like, no shade. But I usually think that. So I love that everyone loves you, but your star is on the rise. That's so sweet. Not only did you star in the Arby's commercial. Like literally, Oscar
Starting point is 00:01:50 so iconic. Like originally it was like, well, we'll talk about it. But so iconic. But also our dance video getting over at 1.1 million views. And I posted it at night because I was like trying to promote the Patreon. Patreon. Patreon.com slash just. We're really just the Oscar stock is going up invest now.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I'm glad we did three years ago. It's everything. But we're going to talk about that in a minute. Star on the rise. Oscar Gracie, who is, he's booked and busy. He's got to go to the Metcalf thing after we're doing this early. So he's got to go review the mechal for his other job, just so much, which is, you know. And if you haven't seen, go watch the.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Well, we'll talk. I wanted to get more into it. But yes, go check out our Arby's commercial. Shout out Arby's. Check out the new mac and cheese with pulled pork or brisket. And 13 for the brisket. We had the brisket during. Did I have the pulled pork?
Starting point is 00:02:32 Is that whatever we were eating? Yes, I had the brisket. The hickory smoke. How long does it take for them to make it? 13 for the briskets. And pulled pork for four hours. We know. We switched lines.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I will go into a little more detail here. And then we also have Moses cooking. You guys know him as the phenomenon of cooking, really just going viral on TikTok for all these recipes. And I'm taking full advantage of it. And I'm very excited. And we're going to be ending early today. I don't know what we're going to do with all this time. Well, so much time after the podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So much to cook. Oh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, oh my gosh. Okay. Love that. We're just, we're going on a spree. Happy May.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Thank God it's May. May is truly lucky girl month for me. That is like my. I'm just going to be safe. I'll be able to all year out. March April May. May is lucky. June.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Pride. That'll be lucky. Oh. That's right. There's a lot of pride stuff already happening. I've been getting lots of calls about pride stuff. I was like, oh, I love. I love we're skipping right to June.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Honestly, May June is the best. May, brings May flowers. We're flourishing. We have Arby's commercial come out. My birthday is this week. Mother's Day this week. My dad's 70th birthday is this week. My Euphoria episode is this week.
Starting point is 00:03:40 A really, really big thing coming next Monday. There's just... You just had hacks. Oh, hacks. Yeah, that's so much. There's so much. Oh, London, going to London, a few extra seats I've opened up for the Royal Albert Hall, which is very exciting. Just on stop.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And then June, yeah, June is Pride. Tanna, actually everyone's going to Vegas, I guess. We're all doing a Vegas show. We're going to the Cosma. Come see us in Vegas. It's going to be a vibe. So May, June, just look out. Just know that this is your month.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I want to wear these, but they're too dark. So, I don't know. Just going to be a bob today. Oh, and it's Mental Health Awareness Month. Oh, yes, my favorite month. Okay, yes. Check out Project Healthy Minds, you guys. That is the charity I decided to donate to this.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Every May on my birthday, I always try to do like a little charity donation, and I usually try and pick different ones, but I start with Project Healthy Minds because it's just an overall mental health. If you guys are struggling, any with your mental health, you can call them. They'll provide you with resources and local to your area based on location and pricing and all that stuff like that. I really, I really loved it. I saw Megan Markle promoting it one time, and I was like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:04:44 And then I looked into it more and I really love it. And it really caters to specifically a young people who, are just looking for help. And no matter what it is, no mental health issues, too big or too small, maybe it's just a little anxiety, maybe it's full blown depression, they can help you with everything. So we donate $10,000 to there, and then hopefully they can find you help. Because honestly, it all starts with asking for help. Let me tell you, everyone's like, oh my God, church the glow up.
Starting point is 00:05:04 How did you manifest? This is your life changed. And it really was just like, let me get some help. And once I did, life changed. And it's not weakness, it's strength. When you can get help, your whole life will change. Trust me. I still go to therapy.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I'm still doing therapy. I don't talk about it a lot because I don't, you know, I don't know. I should. I should talk about it more because I think it is a stigma. It's like, wow, she still goes to therapy. She doesn't have it all together. But after three postpartum's being pregnant for three years, I was like, let me get some help. And really life-changing. And it just helps you with your life. Even when you think you have it under control, just how to manage it going forward because it doesn't always go away. Sometimes you just have to manage it. And that's okay. It means you're super, super strong. I feel super strong going there. I'm battling all sorts of everything every day and thriving. And honestly, I feel better. It's just like exercise. You just got. to build that muscle. Is it a muscle?
Starting point is 00:05:51 No, mental health is chemicals. I don't know. You do something to it. Try and rearrange it. I don't know the science behind it. I just know when you talk to someone, it helps. They have answers. Whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Mine are triggers. I have to remember those triggers. You guys know. You guys know, State gate that happened with me where I just like was, but now, have I been triggered over food lately? No.
Starting point is 00:06:08 If I was like, oh, we could go here and Emma's like, oh, the kids like fell asleep, we don't hunt time. It's like, oh, no worries. You know what I mean? There's like, again, no matter how big and how small, how ridiculous it seems.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I really do go talk to my therapist sometimes and be like, I need help because I am getting angry that steak isn't ready by the time the sun sets. And you know what? People are willing to help. And people really do care. It is a crazy thing to think about because I think if I say it to anyone else, people are like, that's the, obviously you guys let me know too. Like, that's insane, Trish. And it is. But get help and you learn how to regulate emotions and recognize triggers.
Starting point is 00:06:41 That's my issue. But anyways, whatever it is. It's not even an issue. It's a, what would it call it? There's no issue. It's a mental health. It's a condition you live with. Condition.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Okay. Not that. The compartment of your mind. I don't know. It makes you extra special, I think. I think it makes me extra special because I just, you know, there's just a lot happening inside of me and maybe it's not happening for everyone else, but it's happening for me. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Well, anyways, we love all of them. And if there's any other good organizations, there's Trevor Project. There's so many great projects that help or organizations that help. So I want to do more stuff. I'm trying to do more in-person things, like a Megamarkle. I don't know. She's not really like the liked, but you know what I mean? Mega Markle minus, I guess, the annoying part.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I don't know. I guess I'm annoying to some people. I'm annoyed to some people, huh? No, but they should adopt you as a royal and then you do all your royal duties. True. Who's more? They are not anymore, right? Oh, do they get exiled?
Starting point is 00:07:36 I think they. Yeah, Harry left. Yeah. A while ago. That was like two years ago. He's not a prince anymore? No. He's just Harry.
Starting point is 00:07:43 When they moved to California, they're exiled. They were like, see you. Oh. Let me know if you need a... They don't have any more royal duties. I think he still technically has this title, but like they don't do anything with the royal family. I wonder if I'm going to have duties. It's like Bridgeton, right?
Starting point is 00:07:57 When like their son became like a duke and then they inherited that big house, like that's probably going to be us with Malibu when she comes of age. I'm sure it's like the queen is there. Do we have to move? Do we have to do some duties? You know, you know, talking around Bridgeton? The family that like all of a sudden became like, what did they call it in the town? In the town. they became part of society.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Right. Yeah. I wonder if that'll happen. You know, maybe, I don't doubt that Malibu might have been royalty in a past life. We'll see what happens when I get there. Maybe if you guys want her, maybe we'll go there when she's of age, of 18, together as a family. That's not a crazy. Shipping out of cross.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm the Mayflower or something. A May flowers. May flowers brings May flowers. We tie it back. Anyways, we're here. Yeah, you know, I can't call anyone annoying. I know people love to say Megamarkle's annoying, but, you know, I was on. hacks this weekend.
Starting point is 00:08:45 This is why, you know, people are like really excited about hacks, but Twitter, Twitter gets kind of crazy with the hacks of it all. They're all like, Trish Crave. Trish Crave, they did a post and they went viral and everyone's like, oh, Trish is on hacks. But then it gets on like the wrong side Twitter and everyone's like, she has a hack. I'm like, oh my God. Good for the guys on the show. Everyone be a hater on Twitter though.
Starting point is 00:09:03 They really are. I feel like I should just lead it. Nothing good comes from there, really. I don't know. I have a love-the-hate relationship. Me too. Because I do learn a lot about the world. then perspectives in pop culture,
Starting point is 00:09:16 but then people will really drag anything out on Twitter. This is always my example, but you can say the sky is blue, and then someone will say you're able-less because you see color and other people are colorblind and that the sky isn't act. Like, everyone has an opinion on your opinion and what you're doing on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:09:32 So you kind of just got to like do your thing, keep it moving. Do you post? Do you post on Twitter? Not anymore. Because it was my last hurrah, I think, was with an unnamed influencer. or who.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Oh, that was a long time ago. Yes. That was, I remember I was at Disneyland. It was a whole snafu. It was all back and forth. And I was like, this is kind of exhausting. It's exhausting. So now I just retweet other people's stuff and keep it moving, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Oh, I love that. Yeah, I like it. I like it because you couldn't kind of just like say anything. Mine really goes into the best. If you know my Twitter, I don't know, maybe gets a thousand views. I don't even know. That's what I'm saying. I don't even know why I'm on there.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Like it's just all negative on for me. And then I'm so. It's for like, you know, you're real fishyy. I guess. There's some people who are low. It's like when you, you know, like you have those negative thoughts sometimes in your head and you kind of like indulge in them. It's that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Right. You go on Twitter when you're like, I want some negativity now. Oh, well, mental health awareness month would say don't do that. We don't need to indulge in it. But you're right. Maybe my mental health would greatly improve if I did not have my Twitter. I never get anything positive on Twitter ever. Like Twitter as a whole is just a place, you know, it's like it has a certain type of freedom,
Starting point is 00:10:41 but that freedom is the freedom of hate. Okay, I guess exercise that freedom, I suppose. I guess if it's in one spot, there's maybe a better, that's good. You know what you're getting into when you go on Twitter. Okay, maybe, yeah, mine's always like, again, it's like clavicular Erica Kirk. It's just like stuff I don't ever look up, but I'm like, what is happening? Like, why do I know all this information about all these people? I guess it's like you said, it's good to know, I guess, expand it.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I don't know. That is where the Queen Elizabeth Rumor did start on Twitter. So I guess it has its moments, I suppose. But. And if it makes you feel any better when we are watching, Daryan looked over to me and he said, you know what, Trish is actually a really good actress. Like he said, so like earnestly and like a genuine review. And he's a tough critic because he hates Mell Street.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And he was, yes. He said Merrill's out. He says he does not like Meryl Streep and he does not like Lady Gaga as an actress, but loves Chisipa Pais as an actress. So the critics are rated. That's a good review. That is very nice. I know Andrew Valentine, my music director was like, you're so funny in this.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Like I came up. Like, it was actually really nice because like I can't really. watched myself. I like cringe a little. Luckily like the kids were like, usually we watch it like by ourselves, but like because we wanted to watch it live when it was happening not live, but right when it came out. And so like the kids are like, you know, playing and running around. So I couldn't really hear myself too much, which is probably a good thing
Starting point is 00:11:56 because I usually like cringe. I haven't, I saw some compilations that people posted and I'm like, ooh, but it was fun. We shot four days for that little, I was on probably three minutes. Yeah, it's crazy. But yeah, go check out hacks. I'm in episode five, the Amazing Race. And yeah, they did, they did cut a lot. I mean, they cut a lot
Starting point is 00:12:13 for everybody and stuff like that. but they did cut a lot. And, yeah, the original ending of the script actually, because Twitter being so negative was like, wow, at least Deborah hated Trisha. Like, we all do. And I was like, they're like, what everyone feels. She's calling her an idiot.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I was like, oh, my God, okay. But I know. I was like, all right, well, this is why I go to therapy still. But no, I'm just kidding. But then the original script, but I think it's just like it was a timing thing because it was, there was so much. The original script, they did have Deborah coming around to me and being like, I ended up like, I'm helping her with the clown makeup,
Starting point is 00:12:45 and I give her, like, my purple eye shadow from, like, my makeup collection or something. And she's like, thank you, Trisha Peda. So I'm like, you're welcome, Deborah. Like, and she laughs at me. I'm like, wow, I met Deborah fans laugh. Like, that was in the original script. I think, like, for time. And also made more sense the way it ended with, obviously them being, like, wholesome and cute.
Starting point is 00:12:58 But I loved it. It was great. It was so fun. It was actually, like, one of my favorite experiences ever because it was four-day shoots. And they wrote a part for Beyond Hacks, which is, like, so insane. This, like, to me, that'll always be a flex. It'll always be my biggest flex. I was like, damn.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I remember when that happened, they told me right as I was going to New York to do Beetlejuice and like, oh, we need you here next week for hacks. And we said no. We had to say no to it. I remember telling Lydia, shout out my agent, who's the best agent? Someone's like, who's just agent? Like, euphoria and hacks, Leah. And she's like, no, like, we have to turn it out.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And we even try to talk to like Broadway. But like, I couldn't because I was only there for three weeks. And they're like, no, she has to be here every show. Which obviously, like, that was my dream too. So I was like, all right. I committed to Broadway. Like, I love Broadway. that's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And I was like, I'm going to have to miss out on hacks. And then Paul Debbie Down is the creator, DME himself. He's like, no, you have to read the script. Like, and I was like, I know I didn't get the script. So then he sent it to me. And it was literally, remember I was like reading it? It was like, Tricia Paitis. And they wrote so many lines for me.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I was like, oh, my God. They wrote it for me. And I'm like, I have to make this work. And they were like so crazy. But they were able to switch from like a Wednesday, Thursday shoot to doing Mondays because that was my one day off from Broadway, which is like so insane. Rearranging all the actors, schedules. to make this happen.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It was so insane. That was really, really nice. And then, yeah, and then a couple times got, like, rained out. It was like a whole thing. But anyways, it was, it was so amazing. Yeah, and Jordan Firstman, I have to give him credit to. Jordan, who is my amazing race partner.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And obviously, like, he's on I love L.A. Polarizing. But I think everyone loves a polarizing individual, I think. It's like, I like someone that's all in or all out. It's better to have an opinion on someone than no opinion on someone. That's kind of how I feel. I feel that very strongly. and he's definitely the person that everyone has opinions on.
Starting point is 00:14:38 But I remember we were watching season, like, two of hacks. We're on season five. This is supposedly the final season. Season two, he said, I posted that we were watching it. Thanks to Oscar, Clock with the Oscar was the first one to tell us, you'd really like hacks. I don't know, in season one of this podcast, you said it. You were like, I think you would like hacks and you were telling us about it.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I was like, all right, we'll watch it. And then we started watching it. I posted it to my story, Jordan Furstman, like years ago, like, 203, was like, oh, I'm like in the writer's room and they're going to do an amazing race episode. And I pitched that it'd be us. Yeah. That's crazy lore. Right?
Starting point is 00:15:07 I was like, and I remember telling you, I was like, oh, my God, he's going to, like, maybe it's going to happen. And then obviously, like, the third and fourth season came around. And I was like, oh, this is like not happening or whatever. But I guess there is a little, like, Easter egg in, like, season one where Ava tells Debra they should go on amazing grace. So there is, like, a reference to it early on that that was, like, a possibility. But, yeah, it didn't happen to, like, season five. So when I got it, I was like, oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I remember telling you, it was like, because, you know, people say everything. They're like, yeah, we're going to do this and this. and you're just like, obviously I've been trying for 20 years to be on a television show, and people always tell me something's going to happen, or I'm in like, Alvin and the Chipmunks and I get cut. Like, you know, there's always something. Get him to the Greek. Yes, man.
Starting point is 00:15:42 There's so many movies that I'm like, I'm going to be in and that I'm never in. And so people just, whatever. So I was like, okay, sure, you know, whatever. And then it worked. It happened. And it was me and torn. And I was like, damn. And he really doesn't know everyone.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Because everyone on that set was like Jordan. Like everyone just loved him. They worked on I love L.A. It was obviously the crossover at all. Well, thank you. I was very excited. That was my first, like, I guess it's my first official acting debut because it aired before Euphoria, even though I did Euphoria first.
Starting point is 00:16:08 But it's like my first official acting. And Trish Crabe knew it. Trish Crabe called it, I don't know, probably when I shot it back in December. Yeah, literally. He said one of the background actors in the first scene we shot was at the Ontario airport and it was like open to everybody. So I was like, okay. So I was like taking pictures with people.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And I guess someone posted it and he had saw it. And shout out Aiden. I'm going to give you some exclusive because sometimes I get a little nervous that I'm going to get in trouble. So I'm like, can you take it down? But like he's always like so sweet to take stuff down because he knows, he knows. But I promise I'll give you an exclusive for something soon. And yeah, I was like, I always get like nervous. I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I didn't post the picture. You know what I mean? But what can you do, I guess? You know, it was really great. And yeah, it was the best. And Gene Smart was great. Caitlin Alson, I got to work with them and they were so nice. And I got to meet Gene Smart's son.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I remember Gene Smart coming into my trail and being like, you know, would it be possible for like my son? And he was like so nice. crazy. I was in there. I remember because Meg Saldor was filming that same day. I should, yeah, she was filming there that same day. And then she comes in and it's like Gene Smart coming into the trailer. And I was like, oh, my gosh, like my son would like to say hi. And like, again, shout out to, I always always say this, but shout out to Jen Z, Jen, Alpha, all of you for just like thinking I'm cool. I really, really, really a thousand percent oh everything in the past like few years to you guys, always. Was it Arby's that said
Starting point is 00:17:27 when we were on the shoot? I think it was one of them. Maybe it was. wasn't Arby's. Maybe it was. Yes. Yes. Leslie, when she was like, like obviously knows all our verbiage and stuff and watches the podcast and stuff like that. And it's always like, yeah, it's always like a girl or a gay that's in there just
Starting point is 00:17:43 knowing all the lore like pitching it. Pitches it makes it happen. Makes the decks to like pitch to the marketing people. Yeah, that's what it was. She was the first ever to pitch me for Arby's ever back in August when I did my first Arby's one. And then Oscar, she knew like all the Oscar lines. like obviously there's like a director and everyone there but she'd be like oh no Oscar would say this or Oscar would this and they wrote it exactly go check it out have you seen it yet no do you want to watch it's like a minute do you want to watch it it's on my TikTok if you want to pull it up um so good Oscar did so good I wouldn't talk so much about it you did so good important engagement tonight yes mama try not to laugh challenge fans oh my God you're so cute because it's so you it's so you it's so
Starting point is 00:18:30 Oh my god, okay, let me start over it. I'm gagged. I have a very important engagement tonight. Yes, Mama. Did you clock the gowns? Perfection takes time like manifesting your dreams. And tonight, all those dreams are coming true. And it's all thanks to Arvys. We get to spend our night's with Barney. It's back!
Starting point is 00:18:54 This pulled fork is pickery smoked for four hours and 13 for the brisk. My favorite line. authentic, fabulous. And making its red carpet debut this year, the new MacBull, it's topped with smoked full pork or chopped brisket. Wait, chopped? Chopped? In a good way.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Okay. This is barbecue over creamy white cheddar mac and cheese, as specialized with crispy onions, and completed with delicious barbecue sauce. Galazar for commoners. Arbys, we have the barbecue. I'm guys. for this Anna look, Mama.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Anna who? Domiton to a ward on me. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. That's wild. It's so good. It came out so good.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I was thinking about it because I had to do like another ad yesterday from like my YouTube channel. And it was so hard for me to do it by myself. And I was like, why was the Arby's with a whole crew of like 50 people so much easier? Oh my God. You got another sponsor? What's our usual? It's our usual go-to.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Oh, my God. Well, that's everything for your vlog. Yeah, for my blog. Ask a Gracie vlog. You got a sponsor. That's huge. Oh, my God. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I shoot it by myself and it took me like 30 minutes to say like a minute and a half ad read. And then for the Arby, I was like, I was giving them takes, given them lots of options, total options. You were so good. It's different when you're performing to people, then you're in front of the camera by yourself. It's so much. That's true. There's no feedback. You don't know what.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And I am an ensemble kind of girl. Like, I do love an ensemble. I love being, like, the supporting character. Like, it's so fun. Like, if you don't feel like a main character, that's okay. Sometimes you just need to be that supporting, and you can still get the Oscar for best supporting. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:43 Yeah, it's basically the same. It's like semantics. It's like, all right, there's like a little less. But no, you're the star of this. It was so good. Everyone was gagged. I sent Jimmy the B-roll. I could send it to you two if you want it for your vlog.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Like, I took so much of it because I wasn't in, obviously, the Oscar parts, and so I was, like, filming all of it. And people were just, so gagged every take. And you gave different takes every time. You improv. You were just like always doing something different. It was so good. Yeah. I really committed
Starting point is 00:21:07 to. Luckily, my dialogue was easy because it was like the four little clips and I was like, okay, let me get these four quips. And then I'll practice tonally. I was like, what's the situation? Either I'm supportive or I'm like sassy. So I was really channeling that energy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was so good. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:21:23 It was amazing. I was just like, that was just such a fun day. It was so quick too. It was like, you know, we did a few hours on it. It was really quick. Yeah. It was so fun. The whole crew was so fun. And it happened so nice. Yeah. And it was delicious.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Delicious. Yeah, we ended up eating the mac and cheese bowls and it was so good. It's so funny because they, like, I guess they're used to people spitting it out because they get running to us being like, here, you can spit it out. I was like, I'm gonna swallow. One thing about me, I'm a swallow. And I was swallowing those mozzarella sticks. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah. Yeah, they don't want to spin it out. I was like, no. It's delicious. It was hot because they had someone on set, like a chef on set to make sure that it was hot and like really nice and stuff. So everything was like so hot and so good. And I was like, No, I want all of it.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I knew those XL cups. They said they might bring them later. I don't know. They, I think they're new. So the exiles are like back everywhere, apparently. I really said Arby's. But they have these like extra large cups. And it says like XL on there.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I loved it so much. I was like, this is so, because I'm an XL. Like I love Excel everything. So when I saw the Xcel on there, I was like, heck. Yeah. Exile like back. So go to Arby's day. Get your exiled pork or brisket.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Hickory smoked mac and cheese bowls. They were really good. And they're really big. You love it. Yeah. I could tell you. because I was behind the scenes. Even the crew when the stuff went offset, they would eat it.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Oh. It was delicious. They loved it. They were just like, this is amazing. No, Arby's is so good. I mean, I, like, I love it. Like, I've always loved it. Clock the Muckbangs.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It's actually great quality. The sandwiches are big. Arby's, we love you. We love to do more. Oscar loved to do more. We all love to do more. It was so fun. It was just so fun to see you.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And I feel like you will get so many more. Because you like crushed, too. You just crushed it. You really embodied the role. Like it was so. And originally, yeah, originally they're like, Oh, like Oscar went to do like a little cameo, like handing you a bag of food. And I was like, oh, okay, do you want to do this?
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah, it was like, it was, that would be fun. And then ended up being star, main character. And I love it. I loved it. And it's so fun to do it with you too. Like I said last week, I don't think I've ever done any ever brand deal. Like I knew to brand deals myself. And it's obviously to do it with you.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It was like so fun. And then we did the cat's eye dance for we went to a dance studio. We went out of the set stage room, whatever. Thank you so much to NOCD for sponsor today's episode of Jess Trit. very important because May is Mental Health Awareness Month and no CD has you covered. You guys know I'm super open about my mental health and everything I go through online. Sometimes, yeah, that means a moment of crying on the kitchen floor that might turn into a meme. But honestly, that stuff also helps people see what mental health struggles can really look like and reminds people that they're not the only ones going through it.
Starting point is 00:23:47 If one thing I'm thankful for of my journey here online is to show sometimes the hard truths of visually what people go through mentally in their heads. Sometimes I've often said it can feel like a prisoner in your mind. those intrusive thoughts. A lot of us have intrusive thoughts and there's ways to minimize those intrusive thoughts so they do not hold power over us. And that's why I want to talk about OCD right now because it's a mental health condition that's so misunderstood and a lot of people struggle with it without even realizing. So there's some stereotypes, okay? OCD is not really about being organized or liking things clean. Like a lot of people might think it's not funny. It's serious and it can actually show up in ways you might never expect. OCD could look like having terrifying,
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Starting point is 00:25:46 Thank you so much to NoCD for sponsoring today's episode. And into the real world, we went for patreon.com slash gestures. We really elevated it. I haven't seen the comments because I just posted it like last night, so I don't know what the comments are. But I was so excited to get it up. I've been so excited to post the TikTok. So I was like, let me get this page card up because I want to post the TikTok so bad. TikTok as of this morning had 1.2 million views.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And I posted it at 9 o'clock last night. And it's 9 a.m. right. And it's 9 a. So in 1.1 million views. We learned it in like an hour. I ate a full chicken and waffles on it. I also got lost. I just talking Oscar.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Oh my God. It's right. I said the chicken and waffles place. It's going to be so good. Then I realized we're at a different dance studio than we normally practice that. We're usually at the one right by the chicken waffles place. And it was close. I just kept getting lost.
Starting point is 00:26:25 So anyways, then I had this whole thing in chicken waffles because I was starving. But honestly, we still ate, even on the chicken waffles. We still ate that whole thing. I was like, I need to just eat this real quick.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And we learned it in about an hour. Shout out Cedric, who is my choreographer. We did the choreography from the Pinkies Up, cat's eye dance. But people were gagged for us. Well, I can tell you the comments. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Never clicked on something so fast. On what Patreon? Yeah. This could save Manon from her hiatus. We encourage them to get back together. Actually, let's bring that back. Let's bring Manoa. They're like Disney Channel core.
Starting point is 00:26:57 She just made my night. Oh my God. So good you guys. Anyway, they love their feet. Everyone is asking about that. The feet? Fits. Oh, the fit.
Starting point is 00:27:07 That was really cute. Everyone. You guys are stars. I was sweating. I took mine off by the time we did the final one. It was heavy. I don't know how you did it. I was like that sweatshirt was like 50 pounds.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I couldn't wear it for the final. It was so hot. I was going to pass out. It was a workout, a true workout. I underestimated how hard it was. I mean, I already had respect for the cats, high girls, but even more because that dance is so hard. And they're singing.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And people who left Gritigo, they're out of breath here, out of breath there. Like, because the dancing is really hard. Oh, we were sweating. Go watch the patron. Afterward, I'm sweating. We shouldn't even speak. No, I was dying. I was like, thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I was like dying. I got in the car, just blasted air in me. I was just like, oh my gosh. I felt really good, though, because we did do it. Like, it's the first time we did a dance video together, but every time we do a dance video, I like to just go, go, go, and get them all done while they're fresh in the head.
Starting point is 00:27:55 But, oh, my God, afterwards, it is like a marathon. I feel good, though. I had so much endorphins. I was like, wow, I feel like we worked out so hard. We crushed. And by the way, for people asking on the TikTok, like, who's off, who's off timing? It was me.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I was definitely going faster, which I know for a fact. I was going slower. That was what the difference. I guess. I was like. If it's going too slow, maybe we were going too fast. No, I was 100%. I was 100%.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I could hear it a little bit. I'm usually not rhythmically on anyways, but yeah. And Cedric was to the corner, so that's why I knew I was going too fast because I would always just be like ahead, which has always been a problem mine because I just like I anticipate the next thing. So I, and it's such a fast dance. So I think it's faster than it is or whatever. I think you might have been on time, honestly.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I think I was me going. But we can just say we split the difference. Honestly, we still ate though. It was our best one. I promise you was our best. Did you watch all of them? Yeah. Because that was our best.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And I, you have the pop star, like the pop star experience. just comes back to you naturally, I think. Okay, that's true. Yes, I did do a lot of these videos back. At first you were like, oh, I'm like, I don't know, you were kind of like anxious about it first about learning the dance, but you picked it up so quick. Like, you got it like instantly.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, I'm good with Sedric. But like when we did the touch one and like if I have to learn it, like you can learn it off TikTok. That one obviously I flop so hard. Like you're very good at picking it up. I have to have someone teach me, which I do think I am like pretty good at. But that is just really hard choreo too. Like it's just, it's a lot of coordination and fast.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah. And they do everything like on. the word. I guess with their, and I guess K-pop choreography a lot of the times in general. Like it goes by the words they're saying not necessarily the beat too.
Starting point is 00:29:24 So you really have to like know the lyrics. So like no, okay, pinky up. And then because they go one pinky, two. It was so hard. And then the punching all. I mean, Cetrick was doing his best. I thought we did really good. Even in the moment, I just felt really good about it
Starting point is 00:29:37 without even seeing it. I was like, wait, I feel so good. Because Oscar is like, maybe we should try it slow motion. I can speed it up. And I was like, I think we ate. And I think we really did. I don't think we even needed to. I think it was so good.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And I loved it. We need to do more. Already people were recommending like, do the young Miko, do this. Like there's already dances. So if there's ever another dance trend, although you love a cat's eye. So I guess we'll have to wait for the next cat's eye.
Starting point is 00:29:57 We just only do that only. I mean, because we are icons at the end of that keeps you that clip of Harry Daniels going around. Adam McIntyre did a whole video on it. It's like, Trisha Paitis gets in trouble because of Harry Daniels. And that's so, right.
Starting point is 00:30:08 This is also, I mean, I'm going to have to do podcasts from my book, obviously when it comes out. But I don't love doing podcasts in general because, like, it does always get, when I didn't make a trainer one, like everything always gets taken. It's always never good. And then the Harry Daniels, like,
Starting point is 00:30:20 I got caught up in the home. Look, we know, I know nothing. Everything I just once again to clarify was secondhand from Harry Daniels who heard it allegedly from somebody. I know T. We don't know those girls.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I've never, I barely said any words to any of them. No. Our only source is Harry Daniels. And not trying to throw him under the buzz either. Like, you know, he might have, who knows? Maybe he was dramatic. You know, sometimes you'd traumatize a shortage to tell your friends.
Starting point is 00:30:45 He didn't know we're coming to come on hot topics right after and we're like so gagged by it. But we love all the cat side girls. We hope Mana. If she comes back, she doesn't come back, I don't know. But like,
Starting point is 00:30:53 I'm sure she's going to kill it regardless. But Manaw, if you want to come on the podcast, I'm looking for a Magas. I have a Megas for when I go to England. So I'm looking for a May guest if you want to come on, girl, we love you. And, or all the cats size, honestly.
Starting point is 00:31:03 We love all of them. We support. I do love those girls. Clearly, I mean, I've been boots on the ground since day one. Yeah. Yeah. Again, like season one of this show, you were talking about them. Yeah, I love them so much.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I also, I love their new sister group prelude. They're coming out this year. Yeah, love all the Dream Academy girls. Adela, Carly Girl, which you're kind of giving with this Bob. Oh, is it Carly Girl? Right back. Right back. Yeah, ever, be it.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Bevita, be. And then she does a little flick of the Bob, the Bobography. Yup. Is that what you were talking about? I really got to do that TikTok. Did you send it to me already? I did last week. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I will do that after. because I will have time after. Love all the Dream Academy alums so much. Shout out to them all. We have no involvement with Harry Daniels other than being at the seat of the crime. I know. He's always giving me tea and I've never said anything that he has told me. Well, I tell people don't give me tea because I'm, how could I not say it?
Starting point is 00:31:55 You know what I mean? That's why I laughed though. Because like when you were saying, oh, she's not coming back. Because you were like half paying, you were like not even half quarter paying attention to you. Oh, yeah. I was thinking about how to that chicken and waffles getting out of that parking garage. that was so complicated. No, they were definitely walking ahead.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I'm always just like, because I have no idea what they're talking about. Like, honestly, you with Harry, you like, you are like 22 in like the best way. Like you literally are like a 22-year-old too and I was like, I cannot keep up with what they're saying. And I don't know any of the names involved. I just know. I heard a couple things and I was like, oh, yeah. But you also know me here. I just like, yeah, I'm just trying to like say stuff for the show.
Starting point is 00:32:27 So I was like, yeah, she's not coming back. But who knows? I know that using you as a source that about the highest was crazy of anyone to do. Because it's also like you said not. based off of like the context of no Coachella Manon's taking cat's either of her vio like there's other things so it's so funny I still don't remember any of that so but I trust you a thousand percent do you watch euphoria last night I sure did okay there was a there was a Vini Hacker cameo I guess
Starting point is 00:32:54 that was only two seconds any Hacker's cams like why they is that it of I think everyone's like wow what if what if this is Trisha's cameo it might be I don't know by the way I was only on you four a one day so like in theory I could also be two seconds. I don't know. Don't come from me. That also could change because I was told everything changes. Like hacks, like a lot of stuff was edited out.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Maybe, maybe a for you. I don't know. Also, I had no script. Just go for that. Go take that with what you will. Like, I don't know how they're going to fit that in. Because people are asking how to church, I fit into this. Honestly, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:27 My episode's next. This little piggy. Okay. Can't forget that. And I have no idea. I don't know if it's exciting. I didn't get a script. I literally.
Starting point is 00:33:35 But we do know that the editor is worth. happy about it. They said they were as excited but I said that because they saw my face and like your part's amazing. I might be a Vinny Hacker where I just do a little Hey girl. Vinny Hacker, you don't even see his face.
Starting point is 00:33:45 You see his back in his tattoo. I missed it. I actually don't know who Vni Hacker is but people were gagged that it was two seconds. Literally, I mean, his scene that's why I'm like there has to be more. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Because why include him in the press release? Because it's a party scene like at an influencer party house and it's like a wide shot and you just see Vinny Hacker like literally walk across his screen. It's like a blur, but people pointed out like he's shirtless and you can see his tattoos like on his back as he walks.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Wow. But it's like a wide and it's like a hundred people in the frame. So there might be another episode with him in it. I would think there has to be more because also like it's going down this like, you know, Cassie as like an influencer and Maddie like being in the management. So I'm assuming there's going to be another influencer scene in which Vennie Hacker would be used. There has to be because literally why include him in the, the rollout and then...
Starting point is 00:34:38 Kind of love it, though. Like, if you get a press release for two seconds, I love that too, honestly. I'm gonna say mine is not any bigger. I don't know if people think I'm like a main character. I don't know if mine's any bigger. I did talk. I did talk about.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Who knows if that's talking mix it? Have you seen the theories? Crack me up. Have you seen? What are the theories? Tell me. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Is, um, okay, so spoiler alert for euphoria, this latest episode. But at the end, when we see, um, Faye, Chloe Cherry's character, be like the getaway driver after the high story. whatever the hell. Like, whatever the, what's the place called? The glass slipper, whatever it's called.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Silver slipper. The theory is that you are involved, like you and Faye were involved in it. Like you're going to be part of that crew. That's a good theory. That is one theory. Another one is that you're going to be at the silver slipper. What is everything? They want to be a stripper.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Everyone thinks. Love that, though. Thank you. I mean, the fact that they think this is, okay. Maybe. Yeah. Someone thinks you're going to do something with you. open that silver stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Oh my God. Okay. Maybe. You know, I'm never going to say no to nudity. If it's artful and tasteful, which euphoria is nothing but that, I would do it. Absolutely. Sam Levins and director of the idols, like, you're in, yeah, absolutely. That's my audition for Idol season two.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Like, that's like, yes, I'm going to do. Okay, I love that. Oh, my God. That's funny. Oh, my God. I do love these theories. I can't wait to. The concept of, like, you and Fay being like a euphoria's Della and Louise is kind of
Starting point is 00:36:03 guy. Okay. Yeah. I like that theory. Can't confirm. I do love Chloe Cherry to say that. I will say I honestly just have no idea. Like I don't. I have no idea when make it because I literally did my, I probably my scene took maybe like three to four hours to film, but I'm assuming it's going to be a lot because it was just all over the place.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And I had no idea the context of the story at all. So we'll see how that happens. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. But I'm excited to see it. It's going to be on Mother's Day. It's actually my dad's 70th birthday party. It's Mother's Day and it's Euphoria. So get ready for content that day because there's going to be just content posting all day long and I'm so excited to see it. Yeah, people really like hacks. So I'm excited for people to see it. It's just like two very different shows. So how I fit in. Full spectrum of your range as a performer. Or maybe just Trish in different universes. I don't know. Which I do love that. I love that it can be in different, different realms. Yes. I'm so happy to be part of any cinematic universe except for maybe
Starting point is 00:37:00 barstool. The barstool cinematic universe. Did you watch SNL because your your niece was on it? Yeah. I saw the clips. You didn't even You like love her You couldn't sit and watch that whole thing They post them so quick So I see everything as they post it It's so fun to watch like the length of the show
Starting point is 00:37:17 Did she perform or no? Yeah she was a double duty Performer and I feel like that would be an event for you Like if it was like my favorite person Like if it was Britney Spears Gerardway or somebody I would be watching I would it'd be like at the hour And like making a snack and a meal to watch it
Starting point is 00:37:30 That's so crazy so you don't It comes on so late I also don't even have like my TV set up yet really So, yeah, it's much to do. But I did see she gave Jake Paul a little shout out in her opening monologue, which is so funny to me because I always, I think I, I was going to say I forget. I don't forget. I think I just willfully, like, ignore the fact that they were once co-stars on a Disney Channel show. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I didn't know that. Yeah, bizarre mark. Crazy. And then Jake Paul taken it as a compliment. He's like, yeah, we told you we both saw in out arenas. Like, okay, I don't know if that was. I guess I guess, I guess, I guess it's shot out. Like I will say, because of the Breyan chicken fire, I'll do.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I will say it is like, I would take anything as a compliment too. I've always said this with S&L. Like, they could call me a fat pig and I'm like, oh, I love SNL. Like, it is, it is a compliment. Yeah. And I think this is the second time Jake Paul has been referenced on SNL. So I'm sure he feels, because to me, Jake Paul, even though he's so rich, of course, I still feel like he's very influencer to me where he's not like, I guess mainstream.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I guess they are mainstream. But in my head, they're influencers. I feel like, unless you're Emma Chamberlain, I think she's the only one I could think of that, I would consider mainstream. but everyone else I feel like are still influencers in the influence of a world that mainstream people don't really care kind of think of them as a joke. So I think to be on like an Estenal mainstream and Olivia Rodergo is as mainstream as you can get. Shouting you out is kind of kind of big, I suppose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And the little joke that she said was when I was 13, I was on a Disney show called Bazaar vark. We had an incredible cast which included Jake Paul. We'd always talk about our futures, me and Jake. I'd say I really want to create music that explores the complexities of girls my age. And he'd say, well, one day I really want to. beat up old guys on Netflix and we both did it hooray and her delivery was so good too
Starting point is 00:39:09 she was really funny I liked her acting yeah she's a really good actress which people kind of forget I guess she hasn't really done anything since high school musical the musical the series I suppose I forgot she I didn't know she was in that I didn't watch it but I didn't have tell me who was she what kind of character was she she was like the Vanessa Hudgens-esque character yeah she was the main
Starting point is 00:39:29 female who was like the Zach Efron type why am I forgetting his name Joshua Bassett Joshua Bassett Is he doing anything? He is releasing a book this month And I did see he posted Everybody's had TikTok
Starting point is 00:39:42 About how he knows everyone hates him But why Well he was the The source material of The love triangle between Olivia Rodriguez Sabrina Carpenter He was the cause of the rift So driver's license
Starting point is 00:39:56 It's about Joshua Bassett And then like Sabrina's A lot of the songs on Sabrina's album Emails I Can't Send Are about Joshua Bassett So is he doing a book? book like a tell-all? I guess it's like a memoir. How old is he? He is pretty young. I think he's like Sabrina's age. Okay. I mean, he probably will be 25. Oh. Okay. He was very sick though.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Like he had heart problems and he did almost pass away. So I guess he does have some, you know, life experience. What's the, is it called like Survivor or something? Is it about that? Like, what's it? That's a good good. Let me see what the title is. It's a good question. Rookie. My Public, Private, and Secret Life. Oh. He's just like, I'm going to just say everything because he's like didn't he get hate for the love triangle but now he's going to like expose it all or something maybe his side of the store maybe like it'll make people a little bit more empathetic you know i feel like that does happen with books a lot of the times like hearing someone's side or when you read you put yourself in their shoes so you know it can't make people
Starting point is 00:40:51 it more interesting to me at 25 i did write one at 24 and let me tell you there was nothing in it there's no substance because there's just like uh there's no reflection either like you could write about all the way up to your life at 25 years old but like you can't reflect on your life because you're in it. You know what I mean? Like I think that's not to, I do have a memoir coming out to, quite like that's a book,
Starting point is 00:41:09 which I didn't say. But I just think like writing even 38's pretty young, although I was at the beginning of the internet. So I guess that's where it is. But 25 feels young. It gives YouTubers in 2018 making memoir.
Starting point is 00:41:23 It's like Connor Franta had one to Joy Grysuffa do a memoir. It's like, I haven't read those. I would imagine, I would imagine there's not a lot in there just because like you're in the light. you're living and there's no reflection. I think with a memory, you have to like reflect a little bit
Starting point is 00:41:36 and you can't fully reflect. I don't know. But I guess, yeah, I guess if you've gone through something life-thurning, I suppose, but that should have been the, I feel like that should have been the book is like, I survived. Yeah, or like, you know, which anyways, I'm not sad for it, but you are. No, I just felt a little bit bad because his TikTok was quite sad. It was like, I know everyone hates me, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, yeah, yeah. You're like, yeah. They do. Yeah, I mean, both, like, biggest pop acts coming for your, like, that really, how do you recover from that, you know? And what is there any truth? What's the truth? Is there a truth in there?
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Starting point is 00:43:36 Thank you so much to see geek for sponsoring today's episode. Was he just, I mean, he was young. Most guys are stupid when they're young, but is there truth that did he cheat? What happened? He like kind of led Olivia on and she was also like 15 at the time. So 15, 16. So led her on, then kind of ghosted her for like Sabrina. and then, but Sabrina also didn't know about his situationhip with Olivia
Starting point is 00:44:03 and then driver's license comes out and there's a line about you're probably with that blonde girl and then Sabrina starts getting all the hate because Olivia was so young. She was like 17 when the song came out and everyone was like, damn, why is Sabrina like stealing this teenager's man like that? And she was like, girl, I didn't even know they were a thing. How old was Sabrina? Sabrina was like maybe 19 or 20. And how old is Josh?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Josh was 25 now. So this was 2021. So he was maybe like 20 or 21 at the time. And she was like... And Olivia was like 16? Olivia's 22 now. Hold me do the math. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Oh my God. So three year difference. So she was like 16. He was like 19. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I guess that's why I also think like there should be a thing like you should be a child
Starting point is 00:44:49 at 18, 19, too, I guess because you are teen ages. That's why like when like a 30 year old is a 19 year old, I'm like that's a child still. And 19 and 16. I get it. you go to high school together. So it's like, I guess it's like not the worst. Obviously illegal. But obviously not.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I know. That's what it kind of reminds me of. Yeah. It reminds me of like a sophomore, dating like a senior in high school. And then they go off to college. And they are in high school, the musical to series.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Right. And was he young when he did this series? Was he like 17? They were in it together when they were. Oh, so she was like 15 and he was like 18 or whatever. I don't know. And they were playing a couple in the show too. So it gets a little.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah. Yeah. Okay, it's not, okay, it's not like the worst. I mean, a little... Yeah, and then Sabrina comes back swinging. Well, she released one song first called Skin, which that one didn't really take off, but then emails I can't send.
Starting point is 00:45:40 The album that had, like, feather and nonsense and stuff. That album, she has that song called, like, because I liked a boy, where she was like, I'm a home wrecker, I'm a slut, because... Oh, my God, Jesus. What she was saying, like, what the public opinion was... Oh, I bet she was like,
Starting point is 00:45:55 so she's like, everyone's saying, I'm a home. mecker, I'm a slut. I got that's filling up, send my trucks. Oh my God. So she was taking her on the public perception of her after driver's license. And she was like, damn, all because I like the boy, who I didn't even know, you know. I think JP Saxco wrote that song with her.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Oh, really? I think so because he was telling me about that album that he co-wrote and then he said that song, I think. I don't know that song. And I love emails I can't send is my favorite Sabrina album even after the two latest that came out. I love. Yeah, I think that's the album. I never heard of it. She has another song that's like says something.
Starting point is 00:46:27 about like how she was helping him as he was having heart problems, thought he was gonna die. Like Sabrina really went there. She was little vicious with her. And he was still being a little f***ing with all of it. God, would you imagine like dying?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Would you like actually let me go back to my other girlfriend now? I just feel like priority should be just maybe let's stay alive. That's crazy. Okay. That's all sad. I mean, like his heart problem is sad.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Also, but I guess you're still a boy. I still guess you want to go f***er down. Yeah. Go f*** around. I mean, he was a good muse, I guess. we got great music out of it and they became super famous. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I wonder if he, and now he's writing a book about it. So I guess he's monetizing it, which I, hopefully it's, hopefully it's nice because it just never looks good when a guy in this situation chimes in with his two cents because it's like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:47:13 You want to tell you trying to story, but then you are the guy and you were kind of in the relationship with both these girls. So like anything you say is really going to be like, okay, but you don't have to be with both of them. And one very young too. It's like, well, geez, like you're with a child and I don't know. Yeah, I don't really like it.
Starting point is 00:47:28 But I feel bad for him. Then he almost died. I guess that's what he's banking on is people being like, well, because when you said that, I was like, okay, now I feel like an asshole because he had a heart problem. But then it's also like, well, also you're, just because you're sick doesn't mean you can people. I don't know. I'm torn.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So sorry to Joshua Bassett. I hope that your book does well. Probably should wait a baby 10 years to do a memoir, but it's okay. I guess someone gives you that money. Like, I'm going to take that book deal. He has nothing else going on right now or what? He was doing music for a little bit to, like, his own music. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:58 No one cared. That's one way of point. That's what I'm saying. I feel like a guy perspective, you can't complain about this. Because what's he going to say is like, no, actually, I was honest with both of them. And they knew what was going. Like, nobody cares. Even if you were, even if you were completely honest with them, we still don't care because you still like them up.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah. At a young age. Some guys just shouldn't. I don't think you should be allowed to date till you're 25 and a memoir till 35. I think there should be rules in place. You know what I mean? And then you can reflect on that dating at 25 to 35. But if you're a guy, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Not at 25. Wait to your that age. Because you do just be reckless with these girls' hearts. Well, I loved it. Do you see the Alex and Alex on S&L? No. The Brianna Chicken Fry shout-out? Uh-uh, I didn't see that at all.
Starting point is 00:48:41 No shade. Oh, my. A weekend update. Oh, it was weekend update. Yes. Alex and Alex came on. I'm Alex with an E and I. You're not the real ones.
Starting point is 00:48:50 The real ones or no? Yes, the real ones were on SNLs. Are you serious? Yeah. They literally were like, okay, this is where I'm going to talk about it. Are you joking? No, I can't have missed it.
Starting point is 00:48:59 That's what's so crazy. Is it like, well, this is where we're going to talk about it. Are you for real? Yeah. Look it up. Oh, you're sorry. What do you mean? Why would they do that?
Starting point is 00:49:13 You would have heard about it if it was real. Why would they do it at SNL? That is so. Well, I haven't been on TikTok, so I feel like I've missed so much. Oh, my God. Yes. And that's why they talked about the barstool cinematic. universe.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Oh. And they mentioned Brown and Chicken Fry and they called her Zach Brian's ex. And they called her by her full name though.
Starting point is 00:49:32 But she was gagged. She was excited. She was very happy because people were like Brown and Chicken Frye is not going to like that they said her ex or Zach Ryan's ex
Starting point is 00:49:40 but she was gagged. She should be. That's a big she's like I can't believe they're talking about me. She was very much like I can't believe they're talking about me
Starting point is 00:49:47 which I gag girl like same. That's kind of a gag. It's everything. But at the same time too it's because it was not really because of you.
Starting point is 00:49:53 It's because you inserted in this job. But again, a gag's a gag, and I'm here for it, so I'm not trying to shade. I would love inserting myself. But she's like, wow, they're talking about me? Like, that's so crazy. Like, I'm just, you know, I'm just the baby. I'm like, well, girl, you inserted yourself.
Starting point is 00:50:06 But good for her honestly getting in there. Barstow got the shout out. They did say her full legal name. They said Brianna Chicken Fried La Paglia. Oh, okay. So I, you know, a win's a win, but I did thought it was really funny. I thought it was funny. Because you know, again, we talk about the gays and the girls that are, like, in charge.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Like, someone there at S&L was like, Like, who was, someone was talking about this on TikTok, and I'm so sorry because I was, I see a lot of TikToks. I don't clock it. But someone was like, you know, somebody was like, no, the internet's going to gag. And probably the writers are probably like, what is this? Like what? But, and that's a thing that goes viral because they do know. Like someone in their knows, like this is going to go viral.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And it did. It was pretty funny. They used all their things, you know, just their usual quips of like Alex with an eye being like, so talk about it. And I'm about to talk about it. I'm going to do it right now. So it was like this whole thing. They nailed it really, really well. And then the guy, Michael Chey, was just like, had no idea what was going on.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And he was like, I don't know what's happening. As probably most of the world doesn't. But I do love when Internet leaks on to SNL or like to the mainstream because it's just so funny and so random. You think it's niche, but then it's like actually not. It's actually pretty big. I know. Mine thing of like Harry Daniels getting reference in the SNL stuff too, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And I thought we, when Boen Yang left, we wouldn't get that anymore. But I guess somebody in there is still probably Chloe Feynman. She played Alex Earle. So probably her. She's probably like in touch. You know, the writers always. Shout out to the writers. They always know what's going to go of her.
Starting point is 00:51:24 on there. But I can't believe you didn't watch all the clips. The clips were pretty funny this week. I liked all the Olivia Rodriguez ones. I know. And I love the music that she did too. Even she had this one little spoof song about, it was like being a human girl in a alien planet or a bug planet.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And she was like the zoo. And I was stuck in my head for like an hour. Catchy. Yeah. I love her. I do love her. I love Leverarago. Maybe she'll come on the podcast in May.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Well, keep sending those DM. Someone said that you should send voice notes instead of DMs. So they know it's me. Yeah, to verify. I'll do that right after this. I mean, they always have the clip from the podcast to cross. That's true. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Okay, Olivia Rodriguez. We love you. Actually, girl, Josh. The girl with the blonde hair. We love you, girl. You were only 17. You are so valid for everything. Keep making those songs.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You are the voice of our generation. And we love you so much. We go hard for you here. And fluey and that other one that date of Madison B or two. Oh, all of them. All those boys suck. And you should expose them whenever you want because you were, you were literally just a baby.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Brano was like, I'm just a baby. I'm a girl, 29. But you were literally a baby, girl. And we have your back forever and keep making those songs forever. Hold these boys accountable. You know what I mean? If there's one thing we've learned from like Taylor Swift or anyway, wait, do we like Taylor Swift? Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Scratch that. Okay, well, whatever. We love you, girl. And you're making your own path and your own lane. And we love you. And we love you. would love for you to come on the show. Maybe we could sing.
Starting point is 00:52:55 We could do a little theater reference. Oh, she used my TikTok sound one time. I'll love you. And I love you and not in like a weird, like obsessive fan way. I'm a new fan. So I'm very much just casual, Kiki, like your mother or something. I could literally be your mother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:09 38. How old is she? I literally could have birthed her. 23? Oh. Yeah. I could have had her a 15. I had my period at 12.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I could have had you at 12, honestly. So I love you. I could have birthed you. And you're everything. And you were so good on SNL. God, double hosting SNL and doing the musical guest is a lot of work. Like, how do they do that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And she was doing her own stunts, too. There was, like, behind the scenes video. She would, like, run off one set and then go on to another set and do, like, her, like, rolling and flips and stuff. Oh, my gosh. That's really impressive. You're going to do it all. Very impressive. I was not me rolling down the hill, by the way, speaking of stunts.
Starting point is 00:53:40 That was not me rolling down the hill. I had a stunt double. And they did put a belly on the stunt devil. Dary and thought it was you, actually. Oh, really? Yeah. Wait, I kind of love that. I wish it was.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I know Caitlin Olson was going down there. She was going step by step. But, yeah, they gave me a stunt double. They actually gave me a stand double for walking up the hill even. And I was like, oh, I could probably do that. And then they show it. Thank God, because it was a little steep. But I was like, oh, I can probably do it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And yeah, I was like walking up the hill and they showed that part. And I was like smiling because I didn't think they would use it. Because it's like Caitlin going right past me. So I'm like, and they used that little part. So I'm glad that I was worth it. I risking my stuff. I was not. Oh, no, I was not pregnant.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I was pregnant on your 40. I was not pregnant on HACs. That's what it. But I did my, I did walk up the mountain by myself. It was very fun. SNL. Euphoria. I guess you have to address the other viral rumor that obviously everyone knows by now,
Starting point is 00:54:28 but you are not at the Met Gala. Well, first of all, where did this rumor start? Was it? I think you started it. No, no. No. No. No way it started.
Starting point is 00:54:38 It was, well, entertainment tonight asked me, but there, God, where did it start? It was not me. Oscar Grave. I know Oscar Crave was boots on the ground with this rumor as well. He was the first one. Was he? Oh, I thought it was you. No, it was Oscar Crave.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Because I remember entertainment, I asked me, and I was like, that's when I got flustered because I was like, wait. Like, that's what I was like, wait, this is like getting too big or whatever. Oh, that's so funny. So Oscar Crave. Yeah. Maybe he was manifesting. We don't hold it against you, Oscar Crave. But it was crazy because, yeah, everybody was convinced.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Even I, there was, like, like, originally I'd heard that YouTube was getting a table there, like they did the previous year. So there was like a chance that I was going to like happen. But then I guess like you obviously like it just didn't happen. But then Jared, my stylist, he went there and he had told me too. He was like, oh no, like all these brands like love you. Like even for hacks and stuff, he got me like Mark Jacob's shoes. He's like no. And so there was like people trying from all different things.
Starting point is 00:55:32 So thank you Oscar for trying to manifest. Then when entertainment I asked me, I was like, well maybe like maybe maybe maybe it's happening and I don't know. So I was like maybe. It was just conflict with the Arby's. That's all. Like you had to stay. He had to pick one. To do the Arby's yesterday.
Starting point is 00:55:45 so you couldn't be there. That's the only reason. Okay. That's not. Okay. I love that. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Well, that's where I met. Ooh. Instead of the Met Gallo. Wait, they should have done that. That's actually so good. Yes. Well, that was my tie-in one because last week we filmed it and we did a little, it was a little, it was a little bit of a, I don't know if it was a little devours prodigies that we did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah. You know, next year, there's always next year. I really thought, I really think. I think it'll happen. And I would love to go with any brand. Who's going to be there this year? Well, I guess everyone knows by now. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Oh, yeah. We're filming this Monday. Sorry, guys. I asked. I was like, should we do it later? But we're going to have anyways because you have to go to your other job. Yeah, I have to go work at the Met Gala from the office. So that'll be.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah, you're so dressed up today. But I do want to know what you think you would have worn, though. So the theme is fashion is art. I would have been so good. And the dress code was obviously very open-ended, but it was. it was encouraging celebrities to use clothing as a form of artistic expression and use the body as a canvas. And it's tied to the exhibition's focus on the dress body, inviting celebrities and designers to explore how fashion interacts with form rather than simply recreating famous artwork. So something's cultural, something that reshapes the body.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Oh my God. Very dramatic. Something that would be like in a gallery. Something that, oh God. I don't even know. but it has to be like from a, is it like referencing a movie or TV or no? No, just it doesn't have to be, yes,
Starting point is 00:57:18 just something artistic, really emphasizing like the shape of the body. Maybe something Picasso, because it's like melting, like the melting clock. Oh, like off my belly. Is that Picasso? Dali.
Starting point is 00:57:29 That's Dali, right? Okay, well, I mean, Picasso, if we wanted to go nude, my nipples are giving Picasso, my nipples are, they're giving Picasso, it's giving where are they supposed to be, is that the right place for them?
Starting point is 00:57:42 My whole body is like that. So honestly, giving Picasso. Who does a lot of, like, my stitches could be a lot. It could be, who's the one, who's the one that cut his ear off? Van Gogh's ear could be my C-section scar. There's just a lot that, there's a lot that we could have worked with. And they really missed an opportunity for that. That would have been good, faces of water.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Just water. Just spray you with some water. You're the artist for me. It's me. Who you might say, Moses Hackman, water photography. I do love that. It is giving, what is this? And we like it.
Starting point is 00:58:13 but it go to anybody we can go to anybody i like it that's a that's a good one yeah what would you have been what's your work of art i probably would have done something very sculptural like where i looked really tiny and have like all these huge pieces like built around me so i was like a small head big like everything like shoulder pads that were like all the way up to like you just want to be hasan oh yeah maybe that's it's up consciously i know i do love sending a message to hassan piker i feel like it's when I talk about it me I'm like it's like a message in a bottle almost like the one Moses found that one time yeah in the ocean in France yeah like you know at one point that bottle's gonna wash upon the shores of it's a hikahler but he might be at the macgall tonight I heard
Starting point is 00:58:56 I would not be surprised yeah he was like everywhere because he was at the vanity fair party like he really is getting all those exclusive invites although it is kind of controversial this year because of the Amazon of it all with the Bezos being wait what the Bezos are like on the committee this year like it's sponsored by amazon essentially so it is a little controversial so okay but that's why i'm like i don't know for her song but maybe there are a lot of protests um around new york actually and there have been like anti jeff bezos posters being hung up all over the place exercise the right to protest i like that i do you know go do that i suppose but haley bailey i hope you watch what you say this you know eat the rich moment she's still kind of referencing that i
Starting point is 00:59:37 don't know if she is like that's my viral moment i got a she's going to do her arby's campaign doing that in that same dress. And when you have a final moment, you got to write it. She's like, that's what mine is. Anyways. Okay, so people are not, but people are always mad at the mat, right? They're always like, this is too much. Yeah, it is, like, so expensive.
Starting point is 00:59:55 It is very excessive. It's like just everyone being, like, really, really wealthy. I mean, even a ticket, like, if you go with a brand or like with a designer house, I think you still have to pay like $150,000. And then if you buy a ticket, you're, yourself like you just wanted to go which say like if you wanted to go yourself and have no one bring you it would be $350,000 that you would have to pay it but don't you have to also get invited like I can't just pay $350,000 no you there's like the people who are invited by like Vogue and that's
Starting point is 01:00:25 like one tier and then it's the people like if the fashion house or whatever pays for you to go it's $100,000 but then if you just like no I really want to go you could essentially buy yourself a ticket they must have a cap though probably more people would want to do that I know so I'm like not me personally but Mike Lamb will work on some like billionaire clients and I feel like they would 100% buy it. I feel like you probably don't walk the carpet. Like that probably gets you a seat inside. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:00:50 And I'm sure there's also used to probably have to get approved, I would think, too. Yeah. I think there has to be. Yeah, I think more people. Because 350 is a lot, but for a lot of people it's not. It just to be, yeah. Yeah, they would 100% do it. In the room.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Although a lot of people say it's not all that. Like when Patro has talked about how she, she's gone a few times. She does not have a great experience there just because, like, she says you go in there, and it's really hot. And, like, it's just hot inside of there. There's not much to do. Yeah, it's uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:01:17 No one's eating or anything. So she's talked about how it's not that great of experience. I always love every year that's, like, the people who have been, quote, unquote, banned for the Met Gala or just, like, say that they're not going to go. Who else is banned? The only person that Anna has said she would not invite is Donald Trump. That was, like, the one actual name. Everyone else is just, like, they think they were banned. So we should be applauding that, right?
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah, that's true. people being like, this is the one person that's like, oh, and he's not invited. And everyone else is like, that's where we should be applauding. Okay, Jeff Bezos, right. But like, there's some people who speculate that they've been banned. Like Tim Gunn says that he's been banned from the Medallah. Tim Gunn from Project Runway. Like, the old guy with glasses.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yes, like, make it work. You know, that guy. Yeah, his catchphrase was getting old, though. Honestly, like, I remember he'd be in those commercials and I'd be like, I don't watch the show. I don't think it's funny. But, okay, like, this is enough of that. But why did he get banned?
Starting point is 01:02:08 He told the story about how he saw. Anna Wintour being carried up the stairs by five big guys. Like she doesn't walk up the stairs herself. And not at the Met Gala, like in an office building. And he said that's the reason why he believes he was banned from the Met Gala. She's like, it only takes two guys to carry me up. Why would you say five? Like it's teeny tiny.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Yeah. I would put this too. I'd be like, wait a minute. You think five guys carried me up? No, absolutely not. There's a designer, Rebecca Minkgoff. She's also on The Real Housewives, but she thinks that she's been banned because
Starting point is 01:02:40 she went into an elevator with Anna Winshor once because I guess there's a rule that if Anna goes into the elevator no one else can go in with her. Like if you see her go in, you wait for the next one. Which is so funny. That makes sense. And she didn't know that rule. She went in and she tried like talking to her.
Starting point is 01:02:58 She's like, how are you doing today? And she didn't give anything, obviously. And ever since she never got an invitation. That's on her honestly. That was her mistake. Honestly, I'm like that sometimes. I love to not go in an elevator next to someone. And like if I, as ever you don't feel offended, I do it all the time.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I just, I don't like, if I see some going into an elevator at the same time as me, I'm like, I don't trust this. They might be following me up to my room. You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know not trust being in an elevator with somebody. Or sometimes they ride it up and down trying to get to a certain level. I always, always just like hold back usually, unless it's like a crowded, but usually
Starting point is 01:03:28 I'll like hold back. So that's really a new girl, especially if it was Anna Winter or anybody, I would definitely want to want to be like right next to that. So when Anna Winter goes off the elevator, she contacts somebody. She's like, find out who was in the elevator with me. I need to cross. She probably knew the designer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Because Rebecca Minkoff is kind of big. I think she has like purses and stuff. Yeah, those, I remember those bags back in the day. I had one. It was like those giant blue ones. God, they were like a certain kind of tote. I think it was Rebecca Minkoff. It was like, do you remember?
Starting point is 01:03:53 Were they like neon? Kind of, yeah. There was like a neon blue. I had like a neon blue one. Did Miss Glamarazzi have? Yes. It was like the purse at my head. All the YouTube, like lifestyle girls all had the bag and like multiple neon colors.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Yes, yes. It was the Rebecca Minkoff bag. And it was like, yeah, 2015 or something. That's the only reason I don't know who is she. She's on Real Housewives? She was on Real Housewives of New York a few seasons ago. Thank you so much to Roe for sponsoring this episode of Just Trish. GLP ones are not just a trend.
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Starting point is 01:06:06 he passed away, I think, last year. Oh, yes. He was on America's Next Time model. Yes. He was the judges. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He also, like, so he was the original, like, interviewer for the Met Gala, and then they replaced him with Liza Koshi. And he worked at Vogue for so many years and was, like, such a big part of it.
Starting point is 01:06:24 But he said that, like, they, Anna didn't even contact him to say that, like, oh, you know, we're going to try something new. We're going in a younger direction. He just got the axe, like, from being the Met Gala. Oh, they just replaced him with Liza. she and they didn't tell him anything and after that he never went back to them that galo which is very sad but i feel like people should just know this about her that she's just that that's it yeah t i think for him because he had like he was such a big part of vogue and like was such a huge a pivotal part of it he thought like he would at least get an email but nothing which is crazy but yeah i guess you just don't get
Starting point is 01:06:57 the call that's showbiz that's hollywood you don't get that call anymore or i guess that's fashion oh right the same thing i don't know it's new york okay right right right right that's That's the passion. If you had never seen Devils or Prada. I heard The Devil Rose Prada too. Did you watch it? I actually didn't yet because I haven't gone to the movies in weeks because of the move and stuff. And I did get a request from Jimmy Wetzel.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Thank God I didn't see it because he was like, my one request for is that you don't talk about. You don't spoil Deverewell's product because I'm going to see it on Wednesday. And I was like, Jimmy got nothing to worry about because I haven't seen it. I have something, but maybe not a spoiler. I don't think it's a spoiler. Okay. I think it's, they said that. So Caleb is.
Starting point is 01:07:36 one of the assistants to Miranda Priestley, right? They said there's no scenes with them together. Like, it's basically like Caleb felt all the scenes solo. Like there's never a scene where she, either they, you could tell they weren't filming together or that she doesn't interact with his character at all. Interesting. And she does with Simone Ashley, which is the other assistant to her is what I saw. But if you didn't see it, then we have no one to confirm this.
Starting point is 01:07:57 I know at least Simone Ashley's character, like, goes with Miranda, like out on the field more, if that makes. I know she goes with her to fashion shows and, like, the fake Met Gala inspired event. Right. Yeah, she's got more boots on the ground. Yeah, that's what they were saying. They say she interacts with her, but not the second assistant, which I think is so interesting because in the first, I did see the first.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I didn't love the first. Like Anne Hathaway and Emily Blunt are the two assistants, right? And they get interacted with equally. Well, maybe, I guess it's, I have to see. I'm going to see it next week and to figure it out myself. But there's also sometimes like an assistant to the assistant as well. I see. So he's like maybe that character.
Starting point is 01:08:33 That kind of is what it gives. Still in it. hear that like I remember I told you Anne Hathaway made it a big thing to have like body inclusivity and like the models and stuff yeah in the reviews I read they were like I remember that being a part of the press store and Hathaway saying that but they were like where they were far between in the background there's people like well maybe one or two like curved girl but you know props to Ann Hathaway forgive it her best in trying to I think I do think Caleb's part of that movement right the fact that he was an assistant in there that's kind of a big deal because they could
Starting point is 01:09:02 have had just like a skinny model girl or something like that. So I think that's, if we get one, I'm happy. If we get one body positivity. Yeah. I was like, that's getting there, you know. He didn't get to interact with the star, get spoken to. But, you know, he's in there. And at least, you know, they had him promoting it.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Like, he was in the junkets. He was at the premiere. Mia, euphoria. It was giving that. I was very much like, they're asking me questions. And I'm like, okay. I love that. I'm part of the cast.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I'm in the allure. Like, what's your character smell like? I'm like, oh, She smells like, I was like she smells musty. Like I didn't know. We love it. Like I said, a win's a win for influencers and, um, body positivity and all that. We'll take it.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I, we didn't, we have not seen it either. We ended up seeing Michael. It was so good. Did she see Michael at all? No, I'm not a biopic kind of girl. Oh my gosh. How? I figured B. Blotson doll for MJ.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I would be surprised if you didn't see that. Oh my. I don't know how I didn't see it sooner. I actually went by myself because Moses was busy. And last minute Moses was like, oh, I think I can come. And I was like literally, I was like in the theater. by myself. There was like one old couple behind me. I'm just like in the theater at like 1 o'clock in the afternoon because I was like I want to see it before it goes out. Is it doing well?
Starting point is 01:10:08 It is doing really well. It's like the highest grossing biopic so far from the opening weekend. I feel like why is, I don't know, maybe I'm not on the wrong side of TikTok. No one is gagged on my TikTok by it. Like I'm trying to find that side of TikTok but it is doing well. Yeah, it's doing really, really well. I saw Jake Weber make a TikTok about it. So what did he say? He loved, I mean, he, I think he was either a TikTok or Instagram story, I suppose. But he he cosplay to go see it. No way. popcorn bucket in front of the poster. Him and Tariyami, because Tariyami also said she was a big Michael Jackson fan and she asked,
Starting point is 01:10:39 wow. Was Kenzie Zee there? Did she see it? Oh, my. Wait. Did she make a TikTok? Let's see. Let's see, because they both made TikTok saying they were big Michael Jackson fans.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I did see Jake Weber moonwalking in, like, his house. So maybe, oh my God, that's crazy because then Tariami was like, I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan. Like, I was, I was like, oh, I do love all the Michael Jackson fans that are coming out. And yes, Spontontan L-MartMJ is for Michael Jackson. I don't know how people didn't know that. Like that was always it. Back in the day, when people could...
Starting point is 01:11:05 You see him moonwalking into theater. Oh, was that it? Yeah. Oh, I thought it was dressed up. My bad. My boss reporting. He's like in pajamas. He's in pajamas.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I mean, it is giving Michael Jackson cosplay. He would be in pajama pants a lot. That is giving that. That's so funny. We should all do the moonwalk. That's our next dance one. It was so good. I DM Jafar Jackson already.
Starting point is 01:11:23 I was like, can you please come on the podcast? Like, it's so, so good. The Mingo Coleman was Joe Jackson, which is so crazy. He's like legend. He was so good in it. There were so many amazing people in the movie. And it was so good.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I hope everyone go see it. Michael Jackson lived off Havenhurst, of Havenhurst in Ventura. Have you ever drove past it? That's where, oh, I can't say who lives. But yes. Oh, do we know? Do I know who lives there?
Starting point is 01:11:48 Yeah. Did you ever drive past Michael Jackson's house? I mean, I would go on that street a lot. Oh, my God. I wonder if you saw it. Because I guess now it's like open up a bunch of influences, got to go to the house and stuff like. I was like, that's so random that he lived there.
Starting point is 01:12:00 I guess I should see, like. I feel like you would know because it's like right there off like Ventura. It's like right there. And it's like, I guess people just camped outside of it and stuff like that all the time. You? Yeah. Well, mine was Neverland. That was the one I went to up in Los Alives is where that one was.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Oh. Yeah. Yeah, the Havenhurst is like where his family lived and then he had Neverland Ranch. Oh, that was like the Jackson family house. Yeah. And that's where the movie, the majority of the movie took place. I see. Yeah, because I remember Jafar talking about how he, um,
Starting point is 01:12:30 when he was preparing for the role, like he would spend nights in Michael's old room. But when he was growing up, his room was mostly Janet Jackson's room. Oh, okay, Michael Jackson, I did see all this too. Wow, you were in the weeds of it. Oh, did you edit it? Oh, when he said, Auntie Janitz. He was like, yes, I was in Auntie Janitz's room.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I was like, oh, it's so cute. Oh, my God. It's so, good. Oh, my God. Just, like, made me, like, it feels so good. I guess the second one is already happening. Like, they've already said, oh, you knew that. I didn't know. I was like, wait, why did they stop at 1988 8, but it's already, like, happening? Yeah, because they, they, filmed a lot and I think they saw the film more but I would I would assume there's a lot
Starting point is 01:13:05 just from like on set photos there was a lot of stuff they filmed that was not in this one so I'm assuming yes that stuff is being held for they like rebuilt Neverland Ranch which I was like oh they didn't show any of that in the movie which yeah that's where I used to hang out obviously like don't show up to people's houses but we would just like but Michael Jackson was one of those few people that would come outside his house and like talk to the fans which is like so insane like why would you do that but like yeah I should just sit out there with my dad and we just like be waiting for Michael Jackson and sometimes he would come out and it was
Starting point is 01:13:32 everything. It was Los Aliveos which isn't too far from us. It's like an hour, but it was a far drive for my dad because my dad lived in like far. So it took us like three and a half hours to get up and yeah, we used to hang outside the courthouse when he went to the Santa Maria courthouse. Like just just love Michael. You just understand a lot of him and everything he went through with that movie.
Starting point is 01:13:50 It was a really good movie. It was really well done. I really liked it. I would love to be in the second half. I would make a great debbie. No. And so goes back in time. Or I guess maybe Malibu can play like young you like outside his house That's actually yeah that's actually pretty accurate
Starting point is 01:14:07 That was oh my god that's so funny I threw out my back I'm just like literally picked up mouth and like threw it out Like oh That'd be so funny I would love to I was thinking maybe playing like the his wife Debbie Rao She was his nurse
Starting point is 01:14:24 And the father the mother of his kids and this kind of disappeared and I'm so fascinated by her and then I was looking at pictures I was like I could play her so if you ever need a Debbie in there I would love to I would do it justice I love the characters respect the characters not characters either people so much I would love if you have not already
Starting point is 01:14:42 cast it it was just so some of those movies just want to be a part of I'm like how could I I would love to be Michael Jack like I would love to cosplay but I don't know like I don't know what I would because we were watching the videos and God his videos were so good and I've done a couple dance videos back in the day that were pretty good and I just love
Starting point is 01:14:58 You're giving Michael Jackson with the black, pant, white, sock, and black shoes. You were giving... No glove, though. Oh, the glove is kind of iconic. So you weren't not a Michael Jackson fan. You don't know anything about him. No. But you know the glove?
Starting point is 01:15:08 You know a lot. I learned a lot during this press tour. Okay, okay. We had a lot of interviews with Jafar and honestly all the Jackson's. Well, most of the Jackson's. Wait, who else? What are the Jackson's? With Toya, we talk to a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Oh. The family was really involved. Like, the Michael Jackson Estate was really involved with the film. But not Janet. Not Janet. No. Latoya. But Latoya, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:30 She's always talking. She's always been talking. Really? Really? Oh yeah, she's like 94 now. She was at the premiere and she watched the movie before it came out and she approved of it and stuff. So, Jackson came up to that. Yeah, they did a good job.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Obviously, it's only up to 1988, but they did a pretty good job because they did a biopic before with another famous Michael Jackson and Persator. I forget his name. I think that's his name. Maybe. It was horrible. It was horrible. They did like the worst biopics ever. And they was in Amy Winehouse.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Did you ever watch that one? The Amy, the recent one, like last year or the two years ago? Oh, was it last year? It was fairly recent, right? Yeah, I think so. I just saw some clips when I was like, ooh. It was rough. That was rough.
Starting point is 01:16:10 That was like, why did they do that? Like, I hate when they turned a biopic. I saw the Aaliyah one. They did. Did you ever watch that one? No. That was like a lifetime one. Horrible.
Starting point is 01:16:17 They had like this weird R. Kelly in there. It was very, very weird. The Britney one. Do you ever watch that one on Lifetime? Brittany ever after? No. Oh my God. That one was like hard. Did we watch it together? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:16:29 And Justin Timberlake had just like this weird like literal ramen on his head. Like why did it? Like it was so low budget. That was horrible. And then there was one other biopic that was just maybe the Michael Jackson one. The original Michael was so made him look so weird. But anyways, I really liked Michael. But we never go see the movies. And I really made an effort to go see that one. Because I was like, I need to see this before. It like leaves theaters. And I'm so glad we did. But yeah, maybe maybe the next one. Either me or Malibu could be in. We would absolutely love to. It's interesting to see a lot of people that never heard of him, heard of him, but never heard his music that saw the movie. And they said that since they saw the movie,
Starting point is 01:17:05 they can't stop thinking about him. And they can't stop going back to listen to the music and all that. Because, I mean, it is incredible music. So good. And for people that never experienced the music and also seeing it in the movie and hearing him, it's such a unique experience. And it's just exciting, I think, to see people discover. read the music and enjoy it again.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Yeah, I feel like we put on like the Jackson 5, like, ABC and like Elvis will like dance and stuff. And it's cool because that's how I like knew about. That's why I learned about Selena. Like I was alive when Selena was alive, but I don't remember her because I grew up in like the Midwest and we just didn't know about like Selena. But like when the movie came out, I remember being so gagged and I remember being like I need to know everything about the original Selena and like it was so good.
Starting point is 01:17:44 So I think that's why biopics are good. That's why I like biopics. You get to like learn a little something. And the music itself. It just holds. Yeah. It was like a concert. It was so good.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Oh my God. He looked just like him. what will he do after this? Like I feel like when you look like Michael Jackson, there's only so much you can do, right? Like, he is talented, of course, on his own. But like, you just see Michael. Like, how do you?
Starting point is 01:18:01 I know. And he does want to act more after this. And he is really good in it. But also a good singer. And the voice and everything, too, was kind of crazy. So good. Speaking voice was like. Insane.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah. Was he singing at all in the movie? Mm-hmm. Isn't that crazy? Oh, I thought everything was a truck or something. The dancing, everything sounded, looked in just like it. It was so crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Yeah, the speaking voice. He didn't go too. I feel like on the red carpet, like he kind of talks like his self. Yeah. As was Austin Butler who just does Elvis everywhere he goes, which I love, but I love that he can go in and out of the voice. The Michael Jackson voice is hard without sounding like you're mocking him because it's so high in.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Thank God they had someone like in the family that could do the role though. Like imagine if they had to like go outside of the family to cast. Like that would have been really hard. I feel like they tried with that other biopic. They tried. I feel like they tried to because there's so many Michael Jackson impersonators that they could have like gone to. But yeah, he looked just so much like him, which is.
Starting point is 01:18:52 crazy. There are pictures of them together too. I like looked up pictures of... Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, when they was... And he looks... Yeah, he looks just like him. It's so crazy. It's Jermaine's son, right? Uh-huh. I went down that whole rabble hole, too. Did you see... Did you guys report on any of that or no? No. I know something about who... Beefing with who? Germain was beefing with someone or no. Well, Jermaine and Randy have the same baby mama.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Oh. Yeah, it was Randy had kids with this woman. And then she had kids with Jermaine. Oh. kind of crazy but I guess it works for Mormons do it I'm just sure I guess it's you know what I mean Yeah Kind of crazy right
Starting point is 01:19:31 Yeah I don't know messy for sure messy Maybe not I think they do like events and stuff together But I'm sure at the time Oh right Yeah back back then maybe some people are so chill I think Michael had beef with Jermaine though
Starting point is 01:19:44 Because even in the movie he's just like Love all my brothers even you Jermaine Like I'm like So I wonder if like There was ever beef and how ironic that Jermaine's son is playing Michael You know, because I think Jermaine tried to have a solo career. Germain was very talented. I mean, you know, he was.
Starting point is 01:19:57 But it's hard when your brother's Michael Jackson. I mean, you just can't. I think at that point you have to concede. Right? No, you have to. You don't always have to be at that level. I don't know. I think when you have such a famous sibling, like how, you just can't.
Starting point is 01:20:14 But you have to do something. And if that's what he enjoys doing. All right. And he did. I think they performed together in 2001 at the Mass and Square Garden. right before 9-11. That was 2 days before 9. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 01:20:26 I remember it so specifically. Like 9-10? Yeah. Oh, my God. September 9, September 10, 2001. And I remember at the time the Michael Jackson thing was big. And then remember that Gary who like unaligned allegedly that that, that, you remember
Starting point is 01:20:39 that? What? Yeah. It was like an intern that got like killed. Gary shand it or something. He was like a political person. And then yeah, the 9-11 happened the next day. And everyone was like, and everyone just stopped talking about that, the
Starting point is 01:20:51 the politic person that killed the, but he, like, murdered, allegedly, but there was, like, his intern went missing and everyone's like, and so people just stopped talking about it. And then I was like, they probably did 9-11 to distract it. Oh, that's what people thought anyways. I don't know, not me, but it was, anyways, that was a time when I was 13 at the time. Well, you don't want to hear about 9-11. And I was, that's why I first, actually, yeah, I remember, like, seeing Michael Jackson and I remember like, oh, my God, like, he was so amazing. Was I 13? Yeah, I guess I was 13. But that was, like, one of the first times that I was like, oh, my God, Michael Jackson, like, as a performer. Like, I had seen him in, like, cap. an EO, which was like a thing in Disneyland and stuff like that. But I remember becoming like fan fan then. I was like, wow, he's everything. He was good looking.
Starting point is 01:21:29 He was very good looking. Even before all the work, before all the nose jobs and stuff like that. He was a good looking guy. So sad. And 9-11 was sad too. All of it was. They said Michael Jackson was supposed to be in the World Trade Center the next day. Like he was supposed to have a meeting.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Who is that? It's a theory. It's a big idea. Oh, a theory or like confirmed? No, I think it's confirmed. I don't know. You know, also people just, they said Mark Wahlberg were supposed to be on the plane. You know, people would just also say whatever.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Be like, oh, actually, I was. Well, I guess another famous family, the Kardashians. Did you know Northwest released her EP? I was kind of gagged. No, how come no one's talking about it? That's what I was kind of wondering, too. Like, it was kind of a big deal to me. I mean, I heard some snippets of the songs.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Actually, for our 12 year old, really good. I would imagine. I mean, say what you want about Connie is pretty musically gifted. I would assume she would be. And she kind of had some bars in there, too. Was you rapping? Yeah, it's like a rap. It's like an emo theme.
Starting point is 01:22:23 It's like emo meets rap. Like emo rock meets rock. Little machine gun Kelly kind of. That was great. I mean, what the hell is sure? I don't know. I don't know one machine gun Kelly song, but that's the vibe I get from him. He's a little emo.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Okay, I love it. I need to get this one lyric because I've been thinking about it a lot. You think she wrote it? I think so. I really do think so. Maybe she'll be at the Met tonight. Okay, she, it was in her song, How Should I Feel? I also love because, like, it's very MySpace core.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Like, she replaces the eyes with exclamation points and the E's with a three. Oh, I love that. Very neon, too. Yeah, it's like, it's like, yes, actually. Right. He does that. He's been all over my timeline with Alabama worker. But one of the lines in How Should I Feel is, copy my hair.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I'm about to trademark the teal and which I, like, really love my. Copy my hair. mark the teal. I mean, it was, it is kind of her thing. But everyone was like, okay, but like, don't forget Auntie Kylie also. Don't forget Auntie Kylie. Well, she did the, like, teal's hips. Yeah, that's true. Or did she do teal hair? I don't know. I think it was like Ombray, right?
Starting point is 01:23:36 Like an... To Ambri Institute? Like Black Institute? I remember the extensions everyone got from, like, Bellamy were those. And North's is more just all teal. Yeah. And then she also put like studs, like the studs where you would stud, like a denim jacket or something. Like she put that in her. She's like, she's a cool girl. She's a really cool for a 12 year old.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Yeah. It's not crazy. I know. Does she just feel, seem older? And she produced the album herself too. Like she sings it. She produced. She wrote, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Yeah. She's like a genius. She probably being a genius. She is kind of getting musical prodig. Yeah. Wow. And she had her own pop-up event at the, at the complex pop-up. The one where I went for like Olivia and Sabrina Carpenter.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. What was she doing? She was debuting her EP songs there. Kanye was there too. Performing? I don't think she was performing. Like she's,
Starting point is 01:24:26 this music was playing and she was singing along to it, but she was selling her all merch and stuff. Wow. And people were gagged? I think so. That's good. Yeah. She probably is like,
Starting point is 01:24:35 she probably is like so talented. I mean, obviously like both of her parents, it would leak down into her. Mm-hmm. And obviously she's done other stuff before. She performed with Kanye when he did a sofa. So fiend.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Oh. And she was in FK. Twigs music video too last year. And I didn't know this, but she's going to be performing at a music festival. Wow, which one? Lyrical Lemonade Summer Smash in Chicago with other rappers, including Playboy Cardi, low Uzi Ver, Scrillix, Sexy Red, and Chief Keefe. Why did he do his skilocks like that?
Starting point is 01:25:09 Is he a rapper? I don't know. I don't know who he is. I remember the name. It was kind of old, right? I know what he has glasses, right? And he has like, I think a shaved side of his head or something. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Oh, yes. I remember him from Epic Rap Battle. They did like a squirrel. Oh, so he is a rapper. Okay, yes. But it was someone playing him. Oh my god. Whoa.
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Starting point is 01:26:34 Not something I usually get like at fast food. Like, it's so good. That's all of Arby's. Arby's always like that. Like, their stuff is like, yeah, it feels like you should be like at a sit-down restaurant to get it. It's just such good quality, too. Yeah, that's amazing. Let's see.
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Starting point is 01:28:07 So when my mom picked this up from school, she would get me and my brother those roast beef with the Arby sauce. Oh, those are good. We sent one literally down the street from us right here, and they like, it closed. And I was so sad. And I was like, oh, no. And the iconic Arby's in Hollywood with that big sign. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:28:23 I loved going there. When I would do audience work after deal or no deal, because it was right there on like Sunset Gower. What was that Family Feud? I think that was the only feud there. We would go, oh, yeah, deal or no deal was at in Culver City. But anyways, we'd go to the Arby's right across for, like, lunch break. And they only pay you, like, $8 an hour to sit in the audience.
Starting point is 01:28:38 But I remember I would take, like, $16 and spend it on Arby's. I get the mozzarella sticks, the curly fries, the shakes, bring home to, like my mom and sister. It was so good. It's just the best. There's so many iconic memories at Arbys. We love you. Arby's, mm. And our first brand deal together.
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Starting point is 01:30:15 or just treating yourself, nothing else is Reese's. I'm down to listen to her album. Northrose had a new album, that's what you missed. She has a new album that came out that she produced. Oh, see. He's in the note. He's like a saw it, heard it.
Starting point is 01:30:29 You like it? Yeah, there were so many celebrities he's going to where they were the pop-up. Yeah, the complex pop-up. And who else was going? I know he said Kanye. Bianca. Kanye and Bianca.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Yeah. People were just, you know, keeping him like, you know, nice for supporting his daughter. Yeah, of course. Doing everything for her. Yeah, that's nice. Was Kim there?
Starting point is 01:30:53 No, not at the pop-up. They've been posting about it, though, the whole Kardashian family. Even Rob Kardashian came out of his social media, hiatus, question mark, or just absence? to post about North's new EP, which is really sweet. That's nice supporting.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah. I'm actually really happy for North. It's so crazy, though, because, like, I guess I had 12. I was online and, like, new stuff. But, like, when I think of myself as 12, I think of myself as a baby, like, right now. Right. Even though, like, I was on MySpace and stuff, and I was, like, pretty with it, I would think. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:23 But it's the concept of, like, a 12-year-old releasing an album and, like, having her own, like, identity and brand already is kind of crazy to me. But she got it. I know. I get it. I think I wrote my first album at 12. I remember. And your memoir. I did.
Starting point is 01:31:42 I did write a script. I was called The Gunth Price of Divorce at 240 pages at 13. I sent it unsolicited everywhere. It got sent back to me. I did. At my album, my sister remembers is called Angel and the Devil. When she's here, we can talk about it. And I remember being like, this is my album.
Starting point is 01:31:57 This is my debut. Probably at 10, honestly. So I see it. I get it. difference, Kanye is not your dad. That's the only difference. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I mean, in that case. I know. If you had a little bit of nepotism, you would have been a... I would have loved ass a nepotism. I think there's like, I would have loved it because that's how, that's the only way you get in, really. I mean, congrats to North West. Also, she's living a very different life. I mean, she's being like on stage on stadium tour with Kanye singing and doing stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:25 You remember that one? She's like, what are those? These are clothes. I love that one. Kim was crying. Yes. So I was like, honestly, work. same. I would do. Like your daughter's
Starting point is 01:32:34 like on stage. I always think about that because everyone always wants like, oh, Malbu should come on the stage. I'm like, I don't know. I feel like that can be scary. And if it's scary for a kid, either a kid thrive or some kids. Yeah, they have to like kind of want it. Yeah. Yeah, I can't just like bring her out on stage. She might be like, what is this? But yeah, the fact that Northwest did that
Starting point is 01:32:50 probably be crying too. Well, she's such a natural. She was out there just living her best life. Who started that? The what are those? It wasn't Jake Paul, was it? No. Because I remember he did that to the reporter where he's like, What are those? And then...
Starting point is 01:33:03 Was it a vine? And they like knocked his camera out of his arm face. Oh, maybe. Maybe it's a vine. I don't know. I wasn't on Vine like that. I think it's an old reference. What are those?
Starting point is 01:33:14 Yeah, it was a Vine Trends. She's coming back, by the way. Fine? Nobody wants Vine. I think it's Divine. What? Divine? So the guy that made the original...
Starting point is 01:33:27 The guy that made the original Twitter, Jack Dorsey. So I think he bought the old vine and they're putting it back. And the only thing that's unique about this one is that no AI contact is allowed on it. Wait. So was that allowed before on the original wine? I don't think AI was as prominent back then. But now, but now let's say TikTok is like everywhere you go. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:33:52 So it's so full of AI content. That's good. So that's support it for that. I just, who wants vine back? I. No. Can't deal with. the fact that they were only five seconds, right?
Starting point is 01:34:04 You get six seconds. Yeah, six seconds. That's kind of crazy to me because like that would be, I know. You are fast talker, but we have a lot to say. What can you get out in six seconds? Let me tell you, no quality content. I was watching some old vines. I'm like, this all sucks.
Starting point is 01:34:19 It's all like literally just racist. Like everyone on there was just like doing racist jokes, which I get it's a different time. But like, what do you mean? That was the comedy. Like, it was so weird. None of it was funny. None of it. Objectively and none of it was funny.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Like I could like, I could ask a thousand people and no one would be like that was so funny. Unless, of course, if you're like a 10 year old, okay, maybe. But I'm talking about like an adult, like a well-adjusted adult. Like nobody thought that was funny. Like it's so weird. And like who wants that back? I know that like there were some vines I would laugh at like, but they weren't by like creators. They were like kind of like happenstance.
Starting point is 01:34:51 You know, like there was one vine of there's a girl walking in the supermarket and someone pranked her and put like a fake route on the soda cans or something. And the person finally went, what is that? And she looked over and saw the fake rat. She goes, hey. I can have to see it maybe. I trust you. I'm explaining it terribly, but that's like one I can think of. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:11 But I can't think of like a viner that I was like seated for. You know what I mean? No Britney for a lawn. I don't even know what she did on mine. Actually, she could be funny. Who knows? I never saw one of first. Is Britney broskey, her kombucha?
Starting point is 01:35:25 Oh. Was that a vine? That seems like a vine. I don't know. Where did that originate? It might have been ticked off. For some reason, vines seems like 50 years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Oh, same. It was. Now that I'm looking for it, and it's already called D-Vine, like D-I-Vine. But the videos that I see here are from 2015, 2016. Oh, they're bringing back the old vines. So I think it's coming back with everything that was on it. I do know. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:35:54 I'm trying to find out more. That's where the devil himself originated. Oh my God. I just, I knew all of them think they were such innovators, specifically Zan and Heath were like, no, nobody was doing what we were doing on Vine. And I was just like, I get it, but also like there were YouTubers. There were like Jenna Marbles before. Like they act like they were like the originator of like content creation that like brands
Starting point is 01:36:20 just started working with influencers because of Viner's. And it actually just like, it actually annoys me so much. Not even because I think I started anything. Trust me. I was not doing brand deals. But like there were massive smosh and Jenna Marble. There was, like, massive YouTubers, even Michael Buckley that were getting, like, brand deals before Viner. So it just, like, annoys me when they think they, like, started the brand deal influencer.
Starting point is 01:36:39 That, like, no, influencers were not making money before us. I was like, no, they, like, literally were. Like, are you so stupid? They also said they started Saddle Ranch, which I'm like, are you so stupid. It irritates me so much. Yeah, they literally think. Yeah. They made it popular, which is, like, so not true.
Starting point is 01:36:52 That's been popular. Yeah, that was where you would get paparazzi. Paparazzi rock of love film. Like, there's so much stuff happened there, and it's just like, it actually annoys me so much. And I think they try to rage bait me on purpose. especially the Zane and Heath of it all. I went to go watch what they call their iconic vines. And like, I don't remember any of it.
Starting point is 01:37:07 And I was around. I was on Vine. I remember Day Storm. I remember King Batch, Amanda Cernie. Even Brittany for a lot. I remember them. No one remembers is Zane and Heath, cigarettes and coffee. That was our viral thing.
Starting point is 01:37:17 I was it? Because I can't find one clip of it online. You know what I mean? And not to drag Zane and Heath because they're with our girls, Remy, Alicia. Okay. But like, thank God they found Remy and Alicia. They got the rebrand of a lifetime.
Starting point is 01:37:27 But it's just like those were not it. And they talk about it as if they were a disliked. like kings of the world. So weird. I don't even know what David did on there. Never looked him up, but. Wild. It's going to be AI free.
Starting point is 01:37:41 All the old videos are back. Oh, God. But I'm just trying to see if there's something new because I think like any platform, like even TikTok started very short and slowly they brought longer form. You remember when it went up to a minute and then it went up to 10, three minutes and 10 minutes. So I think it's probably going to do the same. And then it's not really fine anymore.
Starting point is 01:38:01 I said if you can do a longer than six second video. Maybe. But the only thing now that I read from all of this is that no AI content is the only thing that's unique about it. That's kind of cool, I guess. Then you're, you know, AI does seem like it's going to seem like the end of the world, kind of. Like, it does seem like this world could be over soon.
Starting point is 01:38:20 And the two camera mode, I guess, when you see yourself. Oh, I don't really like that feature. Why would you want that? Why would you use that? It seems to be an app that came out that was just that. I remember that. Be real. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Were you on there? I was not on Biro. I'm a very slow adopter to the game apps. Like I stick to the core and I'm like, you prove yourself to me before I invest any time. You're still not even on TikTok. Barely, yeah. Do you post there? I tagged you, but not really.
Starting point is 01:38:46 He's still waiting to see if it's going to be a successful platform. Yeah, yeah. Or I'm so I'm actually holding out on the Ted Nivison collab. Oh, that's got to be the first one. Okay. Can I have them come back again? It is crazy. Don't post TikToks.
Starting point is 01:38:58 I made one edit of, um, what was it? Oh, stateside, the Pink Panther is featuring Gar Larson Boots, that's my ego boost my whole ain't been loose
Starting point is 01:39:10 for a minute. Oh, right, right. I did post that just because it really tickled me, but, you know, I don't know if TikTok's really my journey like that.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I love TikTok. I told Ted's here and we do another cat's eye dance and then, yeah. Oh, with Ted. Does he dance? No. Oh.
Starting point is 01:39:26 But I think for me, he will. Well, you should get dancing on there because you're actually really good at it. You should do more TikTok dances, like the trendy dances. Party de Milio is a little scared. That Bob is coming for her. Watch out 11 to Midnight.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Do you know them? Connor Levitt is making his off-Broadway debut in 11 to Midnight show. Oh, that's Connor. You don't know 11 to Midnight. They were a TikTok couple and like, I don't know how you describe them, babe. They're like a couple that does like... They do dances that are specifically for TikTok. So most of the moves, like they always stand next to each other.
Starting point is 01:40:06 One is a bit forward. One is a bit back. And all the moves. It's always the same moves because you have to give kind of vertical in the frame. Not in a shady way, but they're always doing like. No, I mean, they're good dancers. They're very good at what they do. But there's only so much you can do.
Starting point is 01:40:19 But they got big. They got sponsors and things. Yeah. They were doing like sponsorships with big movies. People hate Omeng and Traynor for all her songs sounding the same. But it's like, they dance to say. And it's fine. Like, I feel like that that's your niche.
Starting point is 01:40:31 My stuff is the same. Like, I feel like, why does Megan Turner get so much hate? Because they say all her songs are the same. It's like, well, oh, their names are Costa Mayor. But their show is called 11 to Midnight. It's off Broadway. But they have like, Nealong, Heather Morris. Like, they have big acts going into there.
Starting point is 01:40:43 And Connor is like making his debut, which is like so crazy because I think it's a dance show. So I'm like, I wonder if he's dance. I did a comment. And then people are like, wow, way to be shady. It's like, oh, this is so random. But I love it. And I'm like, wow, way to be shady, Trish. You always think he's shating Connor for some reason.
Starting point is 01:40:57 I love him. Wait, do they see? I love. No, I just remember like the many, what did you call him? Everyone, you said all the dad talks are like troll. What did you say? And he used the sound of like, you talking about it. They're all ugly except for Connor?
Starting point is 01:41:10 No, it was before that. Oh. You said some chopped in unk, I think. And then you try to blame it on me, but it was really you that said it. I always blame Oscar. He said, chop dunk, not me and chopped dunk. And I said, did I say except for Connor? Or I just said everyone was chopped and unc.
Starting point is 01:41:23 You just said all of them, yeah. Before I knew. Connor's lore. I love it. I'm glad he is. I just think like, like, it's like if Moses was doing that show, 11 and midnight, I'd be like, oh, this is so random because you don't dance, but like, love it. Like, is you going to be cooking? Because I think what they said is like, welcome to this talented magician. And I was like, oh, okay, work. Yeah, maybe he's doing magic there, which I thought it was a dance show. But it's like, I would love it. If Moses did an off Broadway show, I'd be like, oh, this is everything. But also everyone would be like this kind of random. But we would
Starting point is 01:41:47 love it. It's not even random. You are an dancer. Actually, you should be on 11 to midnight. You're actually a dancer. I forgot. Cost to mayor. If you want another one. Lady word. Huh? Sorry, I'm too busy cooking, but... You could cook on it. No, you could break out some dancing for them. You're so good at dancing.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Actually, I would love to see you on that. Maybe you and Connor. I don't know if he's dancing. I don't know what he's doing, but... Whitney Levitt is officially leaving secret lives and Mormon wives announced on Chicago. Is it? Are you being sarcastic? I have a little shock.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I feel like if I'm on a hit show, like I get it. But it's like... I get being, like, tired, but damn, when something's working, I think we talk about the other time of this podcast is like, if it's working, I'm just going to keep going. Because it's like, there's so many things that just like fall apart. And if you're on a hit shell, like, how do you leave it? That's true.
Starting point is 01:42:36 We don't know what she has lined up, though. Of course. No, she probably does have a lot of stuff. But think about it. Think about even me. I'll put it back on my perspective, right? It's like I get all these opportunities. We get Arby's.
Starting point is 01:42:44 We get to go on tour. Why? Because the podcast is really successful. And I think that obviously she's like a star. Of course, you can do it on her own. But like, wouldn't it help? Everything helps when you're on the show. Like, obviously, they told her if you do secret lies and Mormon wives, you can get on dancing with the stars.
Starting point is 01:42:58 But she only got dancing with the stars because she had to do that season again. And I don't think that's anything. There's nothing bad about that. Like, I think that's, and like, obviously make your decision. Maybe it's like her mental health. Maybe she doesn't want to be associate with Taylor. Like, there's so many reasons. But like, I just feel I would just stick with it.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I would love to be on Secret Lives and Mormon wives. I wish I was on the OC one. Like, I would love to be on a franchise that's big because it only escalates. Yeah. I'm saying, like, maybe she has another something equal to that lined up. That's the only reason because I agree with you. Otherwise, I would not leave. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:43:26 I think that even if they have a spin-off, it's not the same. It's just like not it. If you're not on it, you disappear eventually. Yeah, I'm kind of shocked. I don't know. I just feel like she is now more than ever she's the star, right? Because it's like Taylor, Frankie Paul, like all this stuff like that. Like I think now more than ever people would be tuned in.
Starting point is 01:43:42 But you don't teach their own. I just think like, damn, stay on that. Stay on the winning ship for as long as you can. Yeah. I think this one's tough because. it's kind of enshrouded and very serious scandal now too and the last season even though everyone was like really pro-witney I think she the drama was like really real for us as far as like the friendship drama like she thought her in general one thing and then she finds out the girl had it out for her you know yeah and with the allegedly gay husband too being so rude to her like which one was gay the allegedly gay yes what's his name I mean it's confirmed no.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Who confirmed? This is a man all over again. He's just confirming things because you've confirmed. I thought he's out. She doesn't make TikToks with them anymore. Okay, maybe not. Don't cover me.
Starting point is 01:44:35 This is entertainment purposes only this show. Do not cover me why I really thought. Okay. Because he was out. He's out of the TikToks. Like he's just not around anymore. That's funny. Honestly, like if he came out gay, that's like a good rebrand for him.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Yeah, I think that's the only thing. Yeah. I think that's the only thing. Yeah. I think the drama was like just a little too real. And I'm like, And Connor can get the leave it to Levitt spin off. Ooh, that I think would really eat.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Yeah. Look, I massive when you stand, so I'm down for it. It is crazy. I think the door will always be open for her. Like, if she ever, like, wanted to come back. Yeah, things, like slow down with the other stuff. I think they would take her back, like, really quickly. Giving Christine Quinn after selling sunset and then comes back and stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:13 And you're like, yeah, we love to see you. Yeah, I guess if your star is just too bright, I guess I've just never been a part of anything successful. So I'd just be like, I'm going to stay on the show forever. You know what I mean? I just try. and get in where you can't, but fair enough. I get that. Yeah. Did you hear about, I'm going to actually punt this to Moses instead of you, Trosh. Okay. Did you hear about the clavicular lawsuits? Yes. Of course, Moses is so plugged in. Against my wheel, but yes. How are you so plugged in? Like,
Starting point is 01:45:39 literally he's so exhausted. We have my family over this weekend and he's just like constantly like cooking and taking care of everything and getting us around everywhere. Like he's just constantly going. Like how do you have any time? Like you're falling asleep at 8 o'clock. How are you seeing any of this stuff. I just kind of like beams into me. Like I never see him on his phone once ever. He's like asleep by the time like we crawl into bed like what? We went to bed at like literally 630 last night because everyone was so exhausted. I don't know. I can't tell you. I would love to know. I've never once seen you on your phone this weekend. I just absorbed information. Oh my God. Okay. You're trying to come see the movie with me. I didn't know how you're time for this. What is that what is it? What's
Starting point is 01:46:16 happening? Another influencer, Alexandra. Mendoza claims that she met clavicular when she was just 16 and he wanted her to be the face of female looks maxing. Okay. And the lawsuit claims that she paid him $1,000 to help boost her online following. And during that time, he gave her excessive amounts of alcohol at a party and had sex with her without her being able to consent. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:46:50 And she was underage. Oh, my God. What? Yeah. And then another part of the suit says that clavicular injected her face with the fat dissolving compound called Aquilix during a live stream. And it was broadcast without her permission and without him being licensed, obviously. And she also alleges that the injection contained meth.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Oh, God. She is seeking damages in excess of $50,000. And assuming for emotional. emotional distress, battery, fraud, and unauthorized publication of her name and likeness. And Steve Kramer, whose clavicular's legal representative, has refuted the allegations and says that Braden Peters, government name of clavicular, disputes the characterization of events. That's a crazy lawsuit. That is, I mean, that's a lot in there.
Starting point is 01:47:43 There's a lot in there. I mean, that's like not just one. That's like 550. And I haven't heard too much about it. I was like, when I saw Popov, I was like, why isn't this everywhere? Considering clavicular is kind of everywhere right now. We said he was like modeling in fashion shows or something. Wow.
Starting point is 01:47:59 That is great. I haven't heard once about this. I know. It's not kind of crazy. Is it like still that happened or just got thrown out the case? Or it's like it's just, yeah. This lawsuit was filed last week. I mean, all the stuff we hear.
Starting point is 01:48:13 I know. Like all the weird. I mean. Lines up. Right. No. Obviously we saw him like over like obviously he's admitted to being on drugs. Like obviously he has a lot of issues. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Very problematic. Um, that's crazy. And the injecting all the stuff happened on the stream. Oh my. So it's like. So it's like video evidence of part of the. He's injecting you're on stream? Where?
Starting point is 01:48:35 How is he not? How is he allowed on any or is he kicked off? I guess anything can happen. It's on kick. Yeah. And he's still on kick. Yeah. He did get banned.
Starting point is 01:48:43 He gets, I mean, it's kind of like Moses said. He gets banned like every other. week but for like a day and then he comes back but like how is that legal to like inject people live overdose live like I just feel like that's I know I mean that's almost like negligence on like the platforms part right I mean and it's so big it's so massive it's an underage girl at that like what I guess I guess YouTube I think banned him I think they kicked him off completely I did see that that he was like permanently banned so shout out YouTube but that's I mean she should do more for
Starting point is 01:49:16 50,000 I mean, it should be like a million. She's going to have therapy for like the rest of her life. Like it should be like $5 million, girl. Like that's. Or also she should be like in jail. Like right? Like I know. I'm surprised of the amount she's asking for.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Yeah. Maybe there's some other angle to the lawsuit that will come in later. Like a what they call it? Like more of a private lawsuit like a civil lawsuit. Um, that's wild. And how come no one's talking about. I don't know. Damn.
Starting point is 01:49:45 I know. There's one thing it's like, everyone's like, okay, we're sick of cancel culture, but then it's also like constantly. Yeah, I feel like we're, okay, we need to talk more about this
Starting point is 01:49:55 and less about me being a hack on hacks. I feel like this should be the Twitter trending topic. Like, how come this isn't getting attention? Like, what do you mean? So crazy. Oh my gosh. It's wild how people just cling on. Or the mega trainer.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Hate it. I keep seeing this everywhere too. Everyone's so pissed her new album and just like, but like there's clavikulars out there, you know? And it's just so crazy how people like pick things to hate on, like hate trains. That is sending me to the moon. Right. Guys, they just get away with everything. Guys get away with literally everything.
Starting point is 01:50:33 And it's so annoying. That's like such a perfect segue to it to my big hot topic was Joey Gressa getting canceled for rescuing another pregnant dog. I was like, this is kind of nuts. What? Yes. What happened? What's the controversy? Okay, so he rescued a German shepherd that was going to be euthanized.
Starting point is 01:50:51 It was about to give birth within like a day or two days. And it blew up on TikTok. Like, it popped up for me on my TikTok. And the first part, and it's a multi-part series, the first part got like 10 million views. Joey on his YouTube? On his TikTok. And on Instagram blew up too. So it went really viral.
Starting point is 01:51:10 And it got covered on a lot of other, like, sites and stuff, too. Because I guess it was just like the visual. This dog was like very sweet. Had like very sweet eyes and like was very expressive weirdly. And yeah, he adopted her from or rescued her from a kill shelter. And she was like on the euthanized list like right before she was going to give birth. Oh my God. And he took her home and then like within a day or two days she gave birth.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Okay. And it felt like. Is he birthing them? Like is he helping deliver? He kind of gives dula. You know what I mean? Wow. Who's delivering the baby?
Starting point is 01:51:44 I mean, the dog does most of the work. But is he like pulling it out? No. The dog will, case by case, it varies. This is just me recalling for my personal experience. Okay. The dog does most of the work. He kind of just steps in just to ensure that like...
Starting point is 01:51:59 Oh, my God. The mom will like lick the baby clean and like bite off the umbilical cord and stuff. He's like doing like saint work. I feel like he should be like sanctified. Oh my God. This is insane. It actually is crazy. When I, like, had to help him with this, like, I would get ill because, like, yeah, that's a lot.
Starting point is 01:52:18 And he genuinely, like, loves it. Like, he does live for it. Like, he does not get gross out at all. Like, the craziest smells and colored liquids are coming out and these, like, placenta sacks and everything. Wow. And the mom has to, like, eat the placenta and all this stuff. Like, God.
Starting point is 01:52:34 And he, like, loves it. He's like, okay, make sure you bite them to the biblical core. Make sure you eat the placenta. Oh, like, he's like a dog whisper. I know, like, he really puts everything into it. Oh, no. No, why they can't say him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Okay. So I just... He's eating the placenta. Like, what? I just learned about this too, and I guess very like morally ambiguous, I suppose. But a lot of dog, you know, the dog people. The dog people are hardcore. Yes.
Starting point is 01:53:01 But a lot of people were mad at him for rescuing a pregnant dog that was about to give birth because a lot of people think that the dog should have been, they call it like, spay, spay abortes. Like, they get spayed, and as they're getting spayed, they also perform an abortion so the dog doesn't give birth. So people are mad that he adopted.
Starting point is 01:53:24 This dog is helping raise the puppies instead of the dog getting a spay abortion. Well, how do they know the dog wanted that? Like, I don't understand who's, how come they can make the choice? And I don't understand. It's like, are we pro-choice? Like, what are we?
Starting point is 01:53:39 Or is they better for the dogs to do that? Like, I'm so confused. The whole argument is about over. population in the shelters like the shelters are overcrowded um older dogs have a harder time getting adopted so you're just adding more puppies that are taking away potential homes for like some of the other dogs but doesn't he home them doesn't he rehome the dogs that's why i'm like i understand the argument i understand the argument about like you know the overcrowding and shelters and stuff like that but i people are so mad specifically at joey and it's so weird like
Starting point is 01:54:11 I feel like the blame is like a little misplaced because like all he did was like rescue this one dog. You know what I mean? Like he's not in charge of like all the shelters. Like he didn't like get her pregnant and abandon her. He just like got her off the euthanized list. And people are acting like his fault. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:31 He saved the dog and the puppies and the dog at home since him. Oh God. So we don't do that with humans. It's not like it's like, oh, well there's a child you should adopt and like let's get rid of the baby. Like it's like, what? Like, like, I get it too, but also it's just like a puppy's a puppy, a life is a life. And the whole thing too, then people are mad that he's putting the resources into like these puppies instead of, you know, they're like, why not foster six puppies that are already there? Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Well, he's doing what he can. I know. That's why I'm like, the blame feels a little misplaced. Like, I feel like it's more of a systemic issue. And like, yeah, there's definitely an argument to be made about like overpopulation in the shelters, like not enough resources being put. put there, but at the same time, like, okay, then y'all go foster six dogs that are in the pound, right? Like, why are you so mad at Joey specifically?
Starting point is 01:55:19 It's so odd because people have been stitching his TikToks and coming so hard on him for rescuing. Maybe I don't know. Maybe I'm, like, a little unaware, because to me, I'm like, it seems like a good thing. I know. I just learned about the spay abortion, like literally yesterday. Okay. Maybe it is, okay, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:55:35 And a lot of the people have experienced, like, volunteering and working in the shelter so they know it the system better and, like, are more. I guess realistic. Like to me, I'm like, it's like a little bit more, oh, it's an amazing thing that he's saving all his lives and babies and stuff. So I guess like a little bit more realistic about it. And I think it does make sense like to stop like the overpopulation of these dogs. But yeah, the blame was so misplaced in my opinion. I'm like, okay, he's not in charge of, you know, the shelters.
Starting point is 01:56:05 He didn't take like, shouldn't have been on the shelter to do it if that was like an actual option. all he did was just like he found out a dog was going to get put down who was going to give birth and just Oh so it was So they're going to spade and neuter and put down For her for this dog in particular She was just going to get full blown
Starting point is 01:56:24 Like she was on the euthanasia list So she was going to get put down as well as The puppies Oh okay so okay I thought they're like oh he's mad Because he took her away from the spade and neutered thing And no like that wasn't even like So he saved a life Yeah and all her puppies
Starting point is 01:56:37 Oh that's crazy I know. The dog controversy. Like save this one and not this one. It's like, well, just because she's pregnant, doesn't mean she's like damaged goods and doesn't deserve to live. Like that's kind of a wild, right? It is kind of, it was wild.
Starting point is 01:56:51 She saved a dog and the puppies. It's just like one of those things that you would think like everyone universally would be like, oh, he rescued a dog. Like, cool. But then there's like a way to twist it and make him like a horrible person. And then I was reading the comments because I was really trying to wrap my head around it. And then there is this theory that like, oh, well, he only cares about the pregnant ones because he like profits off of them because he makes the videos,
Starting point is 01:57:13 then he can sell the puppies. But I'm like, okay, first, he doesn't sell the puppies. Like, the rescue he works with, like, does charge a fee. But the fee includes, like, you get a certificate. Like, when I adopted my dog from this rescue, like, they gave you a certificate that covers the dog getting spayed or neutered. Like, she was too young when I adopted her, but they gave me a little certificate.
Starting point is 01:57:33 And I said, here, when she's ready, make sure that you get it done. And then we're going to call you to make sure that you do it because I don't want, you know, this puppy that end up having puppies. Wait, and why don't they want that again? Just like an overpopulation. Oh, I see, I see. Okay, got it. And they cover like the vet expenses and everything and the medication and stuff.
Starting point is 01:57:52 So yes, there's an adoption fee. It's not $2,000. And it covers like a lot of the health expenses. And the videos are, yeah, but like it's like a he, it helps him because it gives him something to do. But it also helps other people. It gives them something like wholesome to watch. Yeah, it's better than like clavicular. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Like it is crazy when you compare the two. It's like... Yeah. It's like wholesome content. He loves... He genuinely loves raising these puppies. And like he just puts so much into it. Like he literally wakes up and like that's his whole day is like taking care of it.
Starting point is 01:58:26 And there's so many, especially these are German shepherds. They're going to be freaking humongous puppies like running around in the yard and stuff. There was one weekend. He was like out of town for something when I was working for him. And me and Daryan are like in charge of the puppies for like a day and a half. And it was like the hardest thing I ever did. I couldn't imagine. Like taking care of them.
Starting point is 01:58:44 There's so many. It's like how do you even get them all fed and go to the bathroom? The poo. Like, oh my God. And he like really can do it. You should go work for him again for a day so you can do those TikToks. Like, you know, like I'm Whitney Levitt's assistant. You know?
Starting point is 01:58:57 Because you lived it. Does ask him you can make a content? I should have loved it. You and Dary and you guys go over and relive one of your days. It was hard. It's like very overwhelming because there's just so many at once. And like it's like, it's like, one of the letters, I think it was literally, he had 12, 12 puppies.
Starting point is 01:59:14 What was your job title? That's an excellent question, Mama. And I... Executive assistant, like, I thought you were a producer, like producing content. On the check building, I think it does say producer, but I wore a lot of hats. Because you would come over here and you'd be like in the back seat, like, okay, go to fast food, ask this question, ask this. But then it's like, then in the morning you're just like taking care of the dogs. Like, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:35 You feed the 12 puppies in the back. Yeah. This part is where influencers get it a little wrong. I do think there needs to be more than one hire for all these positions because that sounds like five jobs. The dogs alone sound like you need two people like full time for it. Like that's so wild. It was hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:52 I can't picture you doing it. But I want to see a day in the life of you in 2021, what you were working at Joey. I think I was still here. I think when I just started here, it was like a July and he left. Look at what. I remember it was like my birthday and I was house sitting for him and also having to deal with the dogs. and there were so many. And I remember having to have Daryan.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Daryon grew up on a farm so he can handle like animal waste and stuff more. To me, I get sick immediately. So he had like hose it down and it was just like a mess. Yeah. But did he expect you to go do it if you didn't have Daryon? Probably. I mean, that's a crazy ass. That's so.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Me too defends away from cancellation. Now he gets canceled again. Yeah, we can go away. I mean, that's just, right. He's doing a good thing. he has people hopping you. It was a little crazy. Yeah, it was a little crazy.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Yeah, I feel like this maybe maybe I just don't know. I'm obviously not in that dog world, so I'm not really sure what side to be on. It seems like he was doing a good thing. He did save a dog at the end of the day. Yeah. From being put down.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Yeah. He's not just doing it for like a check or anything. Like he does genuinely care. Like, of course he can make content and like monetize the content or whatever. Yeah. But he does like use a lot of his own money to take care of him and buy him stuff. Like the rescue helps with like food.
Starting point is 02:01:07 and formula when they're babies, but he'll buy them treats and toys and, like, the, not the cages, but like the fence in the backyard. He does all that. He pays for that himself. It's also time. I always think that people make that argument
Starting point is 02:01:19 with people who take, like, foster kids or something, like, oh, they get money from the government. It's like, but also your time to, like, take care of them and feed them and, like, all that stuff like that. It's like, obviously they help you with, like, the financial aspect of it, but you have to put so much of your own life into it and put your life on hold. Well, maybe don't cancel Joey for this.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Maybe escape tonight, season five or whatever. that just came out. Or having Oscar do... Let's focus. Let's focus. You guys. I guess you weren't in the union for that one. That one would have been a little, little suss, but that was crazy.
Starting point is 02:01:51 Oh, my God. The lore of Oscar. I do forget about a little task. He blacked it out. Disassociated from that time. What a crazy time. What a journey. I mean, the 2020-3 lore is also...
Starting point is 02:02:05 It's very 2019. 21 or 3 lore the journey to this podcast too for us has also been a doozy that year there was a lot there was a lot that's where my book ends it was like it's like there was one final test the universe wanted to give me and there was lots of tests and it's like okay let me see if i actually can put it was on the three year wait three year anniversary has it been three years of yeah of us and well the inciting incident that's toxic gossip yeah that's that's that's kind of that's that's may right it was after well i know the podcast is May. Maybe the incident might have been in June. Oh, crazy time. Which, yeah, then July was us three years. I mean, there was a lot of...
Starting point is 02:02:44 There was also just a lot that year. July, June 28th. It was toxic gossip train. Oof. Almost there? What are we doing for the anniversary? My God, that was the worst summer. Oh, should be the little conductors on that... Stop.
Starting point is 02:02:59 We just celebrate our anniversary of being together three years, back to Barbie and Arbenheimer. It was, that was rough. That year was truly rough. Obviously, I had Moses and Malibu, so it was like, we made it through. But oh, my God, there was a series of unfortunate events that year, which you can buy the book and learn all about it. I feel like the book is a good thing that thinks I never want to talk about again.
Starting point is 02:03:19 Just like, just go to the book because it's like traumatizing. But anyways, we're here in 26. We're not jumping off this secret lives of Trisha Wives over here. Thank you guys for being here. Thank you so much. Are we for having us in the commercial? Was that yours? Tell me.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Yeah, I've seen all this food. Oh, did you not have a little bit? Yeah, a little bit. Okay. Thank you so much to everyone who watched. Shout out May. Mental Health Awareness Month. Get the help.
Starting point is 02:03:52 We also desperately need. Your life will change for the better. We love you guys. And we'll come back Wednesday, with our recap of the Met Gala. So sorry. We had to be early, but we're there with you in spirit. And if anything big happens, we'll let you know.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Who are you most gagged to see tonight? There was like a big girl that was supposed to be on the... Big girl? Yeah, there was one plus-size person on the list. I was like, wow. I don't know. And I was like, oh, they have a plus-size. It's like a plus-sized person right now.
Starting point is 02:04:21 Oh, yes. I think it was a model, right? Oh, no, I thought it was someone, maybe, maybe not. I thought it was someone famous. Maybe a model? I know there is, like, one of the, um, like actual invitees from Vogue that has already been confirmed as precise. Oh, I think there was a celebrity that I remember that was, but maybe not.
Starting point is 02:04:40 I don't know. And I was like, wow, they were inviting a bigger person, which is exciting. We love to see it. I saw a clip of, like, Lizzo and Bazelerman playing the flute from one of the Met Gallas like a few years ago inside. I was like, I remember that. Okay. Iconic. Anything can happen.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Anything can happen. And if you can't make it, make it to the Meat Gala, Arby's. We have the meets. Who am I excited to see? Maybe Sabrina. I'm excited to see what she wears. We're trying to get Libby. Ready we go on the podcast.
Starting point is 02:05:05 We shouldn't mention her. No, they're friends again. Oh, okay. Okay, we love her. I'm excited to see Emma Chamberlain. Oh, okay. Shout out to the West Elm collection. Moses, put your cup in.
Starting point is 02:05:18 He sent me a picture of him drinking tea. I sent him the bird cup. You remember that's from the Emma Chamberlain? Okay, fun little fact, I did order the Emma Chamberlain bed, and I was waiting for Moses to get it. But we haven't gotten it yet. It's supposed to be here Wednesday morning between seven of the first. Weston does take a minute. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:33 The vanities back ordered since until September. Oh, my God. I was like, maybe she had this. Everyone wants it. And then it was backordered. I'm like, okay, I'm not going to want it in September. I'm going to get the Emma Chamberlain bar console thing. Ooh, that one's nice, too.
Starting point is 02:05:47 I like the button side table too. It was really cute. She really did eat with that collection, I fear. It was great. You influenced me. I did get a lot of West album. He's like, what's all this West Elm stuff coming? I was like, ooh.
Starting point is 02:05:57 When it hits, it hits, you know what I mean? It's really cute. And he loved his little bird mug. he was tipping out of it the other day and he's like I love this thank you I was like okay great all right guys that's it Moses who excited to see tonight tonight you at Magala watching America oh together I don't know I don't know who's gonna be there you know let me think if there's anyone Kim Kardashian McKayla Nicarra maybe Kate Bush is you invited I don't think so okay
Starting point is 02:06:31 We love you guys. I'm aside for Beyonce. I love her. That's it. Thank you guys for watching. We'll see you guys soon This is a fun one. We did good today positive. We put out positive vibes right? Yeah Bye

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