Just Trish - JoJo Siwa Dumps & Humiliates Kath Ebbs + Chris Olsen Gets Exposed By His Ex

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

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It's really, really fun. We have a good time. And we have little Oscar dolls. Oscar and Trish dolls here. So cute. Oscar and his reputation. Those are really pretty. Yeah, I love it.

They have your little snake here, your glasses. I live. So detailed already. And this little cup. It's got him at the meet and greets. We love. I think, do you see Jen McAllister's book in there? Oh my God, no way. I haven't seen it. You sent me him at the meet and greets. We love. I think, do you see Jen McAllister's book in there? Oh my God,

no way. I haven't seen it. You sent me a photo. Someone sent the Bible. Thank you so much to whoever gave me Jen McAllister's book. Did you have it?

No. You haven't read it? I'm a new Gen X pen stand. Okay. I think it's in the glam room. Oh my God. I have to,

I'm going to just read that so quickly. You just got to find it. Oscar's Book Club. It's only Jen McAllister's book. You should do that. That sounds like a good thing.

How are you? I feel like I haven't seen you in so, oh, that's your gifts. Oh, thank you so much. Wow.

I love when you bring these little, positive orca is so cute. What's positive orca? Well, well, well, look who's awesome today.

Just, you know, yeah. Oh my God, everything is so cute. I love when you come back with little gifts. We probably have more.

Everyone's so crafty. I know, I always unpack it late. There's probably more to give. How cool, thank you so cute. I love when you come back with little gifts. We probably have more. Everyone's so crafty. I know. I always unpack it late. There's probably more to give. Thank you so much. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean, there's all the stuff there. You can show the one behind there.

Oh, yeah. We also got it. A lot of people love to crochet. Love crafting. Yeah, love crafting. This is a crochet from Heather Voigt. And it's so cute. Yeah, people love a little crochet.

There's one on your armchair. Oh, yes. This too. Oh, my God. These are crochet. Wow, everyone does crochet. Everyone's crochet cute. Yeah, people love a little crochet. There's one on your arm too. Oh, yes, there's two. Oh my God, these are crochet. Wow, everyone does crochet. Everyone's crocheting. Wow. Crochet, you stay.

That was good, right? That's good for the crocheting reality show that they have. Crochet, you stay. How cute. I know, it looks like so complicated. I know. I love it so much.

You can wear it as like a little blanket. A random white lotus thing here. Oh, we got another portrait of us right here. Oh, my God. Love. Right? Yes. That's like highbrow art.

What were you going to say? Like what? I'm skinny. I thought you were going to say that. I was like. Our faces are very chiseled. That's for sure. Yeah, they got all these.

All this great art. Thank you guys for all the art. These are so pretty. I put them here so you can see the details oh yeah that's beautiful beautiful that was from Justin Does Art

I met him he's a 16 year old artist from Milwaukee, Wisconsin we have like maybe the most talented viewers ever so talented no people always bring art pieces

and I'm just like what like what do you mean you drew that they put the time and effort no they're so good then they come to like the meet and greet and it's just like

this whole whole experience it's been it's just like this whole experience. It's been wonderful. I love meeting everyone. We were in Milwaukee yesterday and they put a Pope Francis paid us cake in our dressing room. So funny.

So random. I was like, not so random, but okay. Gagged. That's also from... I'm obsessed. That's from Milwaukee.

Oh my God. I think that might be for Oscar. Does it say Oscar in there? I think that one's for Oscar. I think gagged is for you and I think kudos That's from Milwaukee. Oh, my God. I think that might be for Oscar. Does it say Oscar in there? I think that one's for Oscar. I think gagged is for you, and I think kudos mama's for me. I think your name's in there. What do you mean? But I say gagged all the time.

Yeah, you do. You are gaggy. That is your catchphrase. You are the gagged. I think, I don't know. I think it is for him. Well, I put so many things that people send us. Oh, well, this one's definitely for you.

Oh, no, not for you. Those are nails for me. That's for you. But you got a put so many things that people send us. Oh, well, this one's definitely for you. Oh, no, not for you. Those are nails for me. That's for you. But you got a lot of tin fish from people. Kind of like. Wow. It's very. This is actually one of my favorites.

A little octopus. Mm-hmm. And then this bag. Let's see. There's a lot of stuff in there, too. There's so much stuff to go through. If you're listening to this podcast. Oh, yeah.

What is it? We can describe in great detail. Oh, we showed that before. These were shown. Dominoes for last time. The baby dominoes? We showed it. Well, we talked about it, I guess. We didn't show it. I think we showed it. Oh, maybe. I think we went through. Okay. There's lots of books and things from.

Lots of books and things for kids. Good night, Broadway. It's a little book. It's in this checkered bag. There's tons of letters and books. So many things. We have so many. So beautiful. Thank you guys for all the wonderful gifts.

We love seeing them. I love meeting you guys. It's been a good one. Chicago was really good. That was maybe the most hyped. Equal to New York, even though it was maybe like four-sixths of it. With my TikTok, I can't even find Hot Topics because my entire TikTok

has been Trisha's, like the eras of Trish and CharlieXCX. That's it. CharlieXCX. What kind of news? Those two shows, like that's my entire TikTok.

She was in Minneapolis the day after me. Oh, really? You know what I noticed? A lot of young kids, like 18-year-olds, they like their lives and I love it.

I love this, by the way. I love it. They like live with their parents and they just like go to shows every day. That was me back in the day too. Really? Yeah. That's so cool. I love this, by the way. I love it. They, like, live with their parents, and they just, like, go to shows every day. That was me back in the day, too. Really? Yeah. That's so cool. I wish I would've done that. They're, like, gonna see Charlie XCX. They're gonna see, like,

there's every single person who comes down. Beyonce's coming there. Like, every person that's coming, they just go, get meet and greets, like, VIP. They just live their best life. Yeah. You did that, too? Yeah. Back in the day, anyone I remotely liked, I would go see, like, even if I just knew some songs. Now now it's like I have to stand because I'm old but like yeah in my heyday yeah yeah I they are like little Oscars

yeah all these and they come by themselves their parents will like drop them off very me as a kid yeah that is so mean because I'm like where's your parents like they just dropped us off I was like I love that like that's so yeah they live their best lives because literally yeah I'm trying to the next day so the one boy had like green hair. He's like, I'm just, it's for tomorrow. I was like, okay, I love that. They have good taste, honestly, our people. But yeah, it's cool.

It's fun. It's a lot of young kids. A lot of young kids come to the show. Like 16, 18. So 14-year-old singing with you? A lot of 14-year-old young boys that are just wonderful and not the obnoxious kind

they're not the Minecraft popcorn throwers they're our kind and I love it so much they always want to sing Defying Gravity and it's it's giving everything

I love it and sometimes the parents are there sometimes the dads will be like off to the side there was like 12 and a 14 year old

like brother and sister in the front and then their dads were like in the back and I was just like oh my god that's so cute-old, like, brother and sister in the front, and then their dads were, like, in the back, and I was just like, oh, my God, that's so cute. That's so cute. Because they were, like, living their best life, and we always keep it cute if there's, like, really young kids in the front. Let's keep it cute for Freaky.

We do a little pitchy version. But they're living their best lives, and it's fun. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool to see everyone. It's just cool to see real people. Like, isn't that weird? Like, it's like real people watch us, and you're're like that's so wild yeah it really is especially um you know it's a very uh mom and pop program that we run over here it's just like but you would think it's a tv show because their boyfriend's like

you're on every single day morning and night i was like wow that's crazy i know it feels that way but i think in the broader scale of things it's big people really and it's always people that like don't even do I always say oh do you do TikTok do you do any social media like no I just watch it

I love that and Midwest was just I love it just simplicity of life really good cheese we had good cheese everywhere good cheese sticks cheese curds

cheese pizza cheese fries like it's just really really amazing I really like the Midwest and it was it was a gag it was so fun.

Did you sing Chicago? Yes. You didn't see it on my TikTok? No. I was like, she sang it. Oh my God. I had to watch it. Chicago. Chicago. I'm surprised Pop Crave didn't tweet that. Like that's something that Pop Crave should have. That's newsworthy. I might have to like DM them and be like, hey, can you guys

please post that? I was very proud of myself. I learned it right before I went out. I was like, it's a city that's inviting. It's a city that's exciting. It's a city meant for a girl like me. Yeah. You ate that. And there's a lake they call it Michigan. I think I'm really fitting in. This really is my perfect cup of tea. Is that right?

Yeah. Chicago. Chicago. I have to argue that she doesn't really say Chicago. She doesn't. Because I was like, she definitely said Chicago. I don't know that she doesn't really say Chicago. She doesn't. Because I was like, she doesn't say Chicago. I don't know. What's it called again? That thing where you remember things differently? Yeah. The Mandela effect. Yes. Because I could

have sworn she said Chicago. But then when I looked up the lyrics last week it did say Chicago. And even her. I watched her sing it. I was like, I think she's just saying Chicago. I don't know where I got the very me just to make everything about her. I love it sing it. I was like, I think she's just saying Chicago. I don't know where I got this. Well, very me, just to make everything about her. Yeah, I love it. Chicago.

I did sing it. It was very, they liked it. People loved it. They gagged for it. Something they knew, the Gen Z, because I could have sang like Donny Osmond, who was there for 10 years playing Joseph, but I don't know if they would have gotten this. Yeah, Victorious is definitely where it's at. Yeah, they were very excited about it.

Speaking of Victorious, Liz Gillies on Victorious? Yes. Do you see Ariana Grande? I went to go see her in Little Shop of Horrors. Yeah. With Ethan Slater. Oh, wait, I didn't see. Holding hands.

Oh, I didn't see that. She's like bent, kissing Liz like this, and then Ethan's behind her, and she's like holding her hand with Ethan. Oh, that's cute. So they're still together. So those breakup rumors. I didn't even hear about these breakup rumors. Wait, really?

Everyone's like quietly broken up, and they're not saying anything. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't even hear about those breakup rumors. I didn't even hear about these breakup rumors. Wait, really? Everyone's like quietly broken up and they're not saying anything. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't even hear about those breakup rumors. They look like they're still going strong at Little Shop off-Broadway. That is where I would like to appear next. We'll see. Manifesting, okay. Manifesting. What are you manifesting? Do you want to show your cup

or what? I just, that's what, it's still in the segment of gifts. Oh. Another gift. Must be on the gift segment. I'm just going to show it. It's beautiful. If you're listening, there's six fishes on that cup. It's gold and it's blue and it's purple. It's perfect.

Are you manifesting more fish mugs in your future? As long as they're like you. Do you have a manifest? What? Like me? Fish like fish. Oh, fish like fish oh crazy wild are you manifesting anything or no oh we're in manifesting stuff yeah i was just about to ask i was manifesting my next upcoming show so what are you manifesting to be there okay that's a very easy manifestation what's your manifestation goals um i would say right now

it would be um filling in for cutie cinderella on the fear and podcast because i met her and oh you met her i met her yesterday her and i saw him with yeah me and my friend ted nivison you might have missed it but I did see this on your story what I know is a hot topic I don't know if you're gonna but we're transitioning now to it love it is it a hot topic I honestly yeah Oscar Crave tweeted it this is kind of breaking news you guys I find my information from Oscar Crave

and then I go to yours same with Darian actually he sees things on Oscar Crave before he sees me what's happening here okay so you hung out with all them mystery or what well i um did uh whine about it it's a podcast with cutie cinderella and um maya higa and um they did like a full production day so you know they had like four interviews back to back and um little did i know ted nivison was a slot before me no way yeah and I showed up

and then Meet the Girls are so lovely and they're like oh Ted's upstairs like do you want to say hi to him I'm like what of course

and then they told me actually Ted when we told Ted you were coming next he's like oh I'm gonna wait around

and wait for Oscar shut up is that real that's crazy Bible Bible can you believe you guys did look very like close.

I know. I thought you guys were just hanging out. I was like, oh, what is happening here? My friend Ted Nivison. Yeah. I mean, it is crazy. It is crazy. I feel like we have this like will they, won't they bit going on, you know?

I like that. But now I thought it was just a bit, but now I'm like, what is going on? I don't know. And after like the JoJo Siwa, you know, she was lesbian. Now she's just queer. Oh my God. Is Ted going to be the reverse? We can't have that going on.

Ted or you? Are you going to be? Well, I'm still going to be gay, but Ted might figure something out. JoJo said at the beginning of Summer Big Brother. Ted might not be straight after all. Oh, I see. I see. I see.

Yes. But we just had a lovely conversation. Did you, how long did it last? We talked for about like maybe 10 minutes or so. And he was like, oh,, I see, yes. But we just had a lovely conversation. Did you, how long did it last? We talked for about, like, maybe 10 minutes or so. And he was like, oh, let's take a selfie. And I was like, okay. And then I went to pull my phone out and I was like, actually, I want to do a video.

And I was like, okay. Wow. Oh, my God. Like a dream come true. Yeah, he's like, I want to do a video to your, because he's really impressed by Oscar Crave, I think. So shout out Oscar Crave. So he's like, I want to do a video for like the Oscar fans

so I was like okay wow yeah oh my god so that was the video you did and posted yeah yeah yeah he was

that was his idea it was his idea crazy that's like a dream come true when you're a fan of someone like let's do a video I think I've endeared Ted Nivison

I think I think I've charmed him with honestly I kind of think just I feel like we're a good foil. You know, like he's tall and like really straight and I'm, you know, short and very gay. It's almost like when you and Jeff are together, it's like two opposite people, like you're good foils for each other. What's a foil? I've never heard that term. Like an opposite, but like a complimentary opposite. I've never heard, where's foil come from?

Like literature, I think. Really? I've never heard. Where's foil come from? Like literature, I think. Really? Yeah. I've never heard that. Or like when you're writing characters and developing characters. Yeah, you guys do make sense. Yeah, but like opposite, but like complementary. So is he on the podcast full time?

No, he was one of the guests. But do you want to fill in for Cutie Cinderella? Oh, yeah. So- Why is that movie on it? That's a good combo. She's got a lot going on because she has like wine about it, which is her and Maya.

And then she has fear and which kind of a big group of people. Your worst nightmare, though. It's like her Austin show, Hassan and Will Neff. And then sometimes they have other people, too. But she's like, oh, my God. She said next time she has a PTO day, I could fill in for her. PTO. Yeah. Like next time she has a PTO day I could fill in for her.

PTO? Yeah, like next time she's off. Oh. Wait, isn't it her podcast? It's like an ensemble. Always. Yeah.

That would be hard if people were just taking days off all the time. I know. You know, like our schedules are so busy and I'm like, God, if we had like more people

and I have to take off I think it's like five of them but I think if one isn't there they just keep it moving. They just, you know, there's enough of them that if one's gone, I think, you know. I see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. You think you can get in that slot? I'm gonna try to manifest that. Yeah. Because now I'm like, well, why not? Why not? Why does she have to be the one gone?

Why can't you go in with someone else's gone? Good question. I don't know. Then you could be there with her. Honestly, T, because we might be, she might be a good buffer. Or you're saying she was busy, so she probably takes more time off. She said, yeah, she was specific. She's like, well, next time I'm gone, she might be a good buffer. Or you're just saying she was busy, so she probably takes more time off. She said, yeah. She's specific.

She's like, well, next time I'm gone, you should fill in for me. And then the Austin show. Oh, she invited it then. I thought you were just like, I want to replace her. I was like, damn, okay. She put it out there. She put it out there. Oh, my love.

Yes, yes, yes. And yeah, she was very sweet. I was very honored that they asked me to be on. Because everyone else, they did eight interviews. And they were like all big. In one day? They did four each. Two days, four each.

That's a lot. And they're all like really big YouTubers and like streamers they had on. And then Oscar from Just Trish. That's so cute. I'm going to be promoting that as if I'm in a Marvel movie. I'm going to be doing a press junket. Yeah. My own like premiere.

You got to be the most viewed on theirs for sure. I'm going to be pushing it as if I'm getting paid. Every day just posting me with the Greek tickets. LA, LA, LA. It works. People start going. Like New York City was only like 75% sold out. And then like by the end of it, it was like only like 95%.

There you go. Persistence pays off. Just keep pushing it. Yes, yes, yes. If you taught me anything, it's be persistent. Well, Alex Warren taught me that because he uses his sound like literally a hundred times in one month. I'm like, that's crazy. And he's that stagecoach. So, um, that's the same. When does it come out? I don't honestly

don't know because he filmed so many and they're going to roll them out like over a couple months. So I think it went well because sometimes after a podcast I reflect I don't know how that went. It was a vibe. It's like easy for me because their vibe is very girly pop and that's like very mean. Okay. Um, I just always think I'm like really obnoxious.

So I'm like, I hope I wasn't too obnoxious. Just on podcast or in life? In life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm annoying. Especially with a microphone. I feel like I'm extra. No.

But I had a lot of fun. You were very smart. Yeah. We did a segment where they had me like rank like Twitch streamers by hotness, which was quite interesting. Girls or guys? They were guys. Who was number one?

Ted Nivison. Yeah. Wow. Did you guys meet him before? You met him right before? I met him before he filmed, but even if I hadn't had seen him again, I would have like.

He's handsome. You guys do look like each other. You guys look like you're having fun. You guys look like friends for real. I was like, wow, you guys are really close. He's one of the most requested guests. All right. Let's bring him back.

I'm about to give birth. He's always here when I'm about to give birth. That's what I told him. Oh, yeah. He was very inquisitive about the Pope Francis thing, too. He had a lot of questions. Well, time to come back. We can talk about the space launch and the baby.

I like him. I like him, too. He's a little sweetie. I just feel so pressured because I don't know him. I just feel like pressure because like I don't know him and he's like a guy. I just feel like pressure when he's here. At least he's a, he's very much a yes and kind of guy. You know, there's.

We love that. Maybe just a little improv. Oh, he did too. He was a little Acapella kid. Yeah. Yeah. So he kind of just keeps it moving. I think he's very intrigued by us because we are a separate world from him.

Even he was like that too. He's like, yeah, I know you guys are more of like a Jake Webber, Tara Yumi, Tana Mongeau. That's so random. I think the Jake Webber world is very different than us and Tara Yumi, but we love them. They're girly pop-ish. Yeah, he was like, I know that's more of your world, but you know.

That's the weirdest reference. Maybe Tana or something. I see that, but. This episode of Just Trish sponsored by Golden Nugget Online Casino. Lights, camera, action. The hottest new act in Vegas is coming straight to your pocket. For a limited time, Golden Nugget Online Casino presents the Golden Tour. Turn your downtime into showtime with performances from your favorite slots, special appearances from Daily favorite slots, special appearances

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Golden Egg Online Casino. We love you and thank you for sponsoring today's episode. Jake Weber and Tara have been on here one time. I mean, it makes sense because he doesn't know. Who would you associate him with? No one. I know nothing about him. I would never think anything about him. To me, he's like a lone wolf.

I don't even know those people. Obviously, you talk about like I know of them. I don't watch streamers. But to me, he just seems like floating on his own island sort of thing. He kind of knows everyone. He's crazy. But, like, to me, he just seems, like, floating on his own island sort of thing. He kind of knows everyone. So, I don't know. He's crazy. Yeah.

So weird. I don't know. On that tier list, though, of, like, streamers, I knew maybe two or three of them. And everyone else, I had no idea. So, I was kind of worried because it was, like, ranking on, like, super hot. So, like, Ugo was the bottom tier. And I'm like. They called it Ugo?

That's crazy. Well, they had me name the tier so yes so that's crazy cutie kind of insinuated I should call it the ugly tier though and they're all friends with them so and they said they would be okay with it but I'm like I was like well I could cancel but also I don't think there's much crossover with like this group of like straight the phase streamers and then just Trish Crew so I think we're okay

yeah I think we're okay do you feel good about it that's good yeah and it was I feel anxious every time I do a podcast

I start saying no to things because I feel anxious Color Daddy just like weirdly reposted mine they were like it's up again and then they posted me

on TikTok and I was like what is happening and then the caption was like oh ready for round two I was like I'm no you're back on I tiktok and i was like what is happening and then the caption was like oh ready for round two i was like i'm you're back on i know that's what i was like it was so bizarre and then my one of my dancers like i just watched your color daddy episode i was like what it was so weird i don't know if i got taken down i don't know what happened was it ever on youtube because i remember having to make a spotify account to listen to it oh is the full episode

maybe yeah i think they posted the full episode maybe because the Spotify deal is over and they're on Sirius so they were able to upload. Oh. Yeah that's my business cap on. I loved it. They just had Penn Batchelor on so I felt in good company. I was like alright.

We gotta get this Trisha episode off ASAP. That's how I felt even though I was like literally like two years old I was like alright. Love that. Okay well I'm excited.

Yeah podcasts to me kind of like give me anxiety going on anyone else's I'm just I just get even canceled I'm just like scared because I feel like every time I'm on – I don't know. Like I don't know. I just – when I'm like not in control of it, I just feel scared.

Yeah. All the time. I'm excited for you. That's good. Okay. Yeah, I was wondering the lore behind it. Are you inviting Ted to the LA show? I did.

He was asking – again, asking about that, too. He was, again, very inquisitive. Very inquisitive about what was going on. He's like, I'm asking about the tour and stuff. And I was like, well, just playing the Greek. And if you're interested, I can hook you up. And he was like, he was intrigued. It wasn't a yes.

It wasn't a no. He was kind of puzzled. I couldn't picture him there. Me either. It's a very odd show if you do not like me or know me. But I think he's kind of like a man of science and I think for science reasons he'd be like intrigued. Like you want to research the fandom. Yeah.

The people there. People are always so confused by my show. The security, the ushers, everyone's always just. I love the TikToks of like the ushers watching. Like what is going on? It is always that. I see everybody just like so confused. It's confusing.

But rave reviews. People come back multiple times. So the people who like it, like it. I love that for you. That was yesterday. God, you were busy. Yeah, it was yesterday. It was fun.

What was yesterday? What was the date? 27th? Oh. Yeah. I usually don't like the end of the month dates because they're confusing. They all blend together. I know. And when you don't know if it's like the end of the month dates because they're confusing. They all blend together. I know.

And when you don't know if it's like a 30-day month, 31-day month. Or when is May happening? Mm-hmm. It was a good day yesterday, too. Moses was wearing a Walton Goggins shirt. Walton Goggins replied to me on Instagram. That was major. I thought so, too.

That was kind of gay. Moses was, like, confused, I think. He was like, he's coming to the show? I thought he was on the East Coast. I'm like, first of all, I don't think he's coming, period. But I thought you said in the text that he's coming or something. Well, it was clearly a joke. Well, I didn't know.

Because he was actually, there was a screenshot. There were receipts. But did you watch, did you see the screenshot? I was super excited. My theory was like, he answered, then you move to you moved to dms then oh i wasn't about to dm that's crazy could you imagine my whole invite was there in the comment i couldn't like follow up and be like okay so are you that would be weird but he doesn't reply to many people no he doesn't he replied to like one other person today but like other than that there was like no other replies in

the post that he did it was like him recording as baby billy from um righteous gems yes we're not quite to his season yet we've only made it past one episode well we only got one episode and i was like it seems a little violent and then people like no keep watching it we might have to but anyways i see the clips of him on tiktok singing his christian song the mama told me not to lie why did it anyway misbehave? So I invited him because I was trying to get a special guest for LA and I haven't thought of anyone really.

Look, maybe someone will happen, maybe not but I was like, let me just ask him. So my little thing, it was him in the recording studio and I was like, oh, will you come sing at the Greek theater with me May 4th from one Christian singer to another? And he put three red hearts. Major.

That's major. Oh, he's copying me. Huh? He's copying you? Oh, with the three. Well, first of all, you just do it on TikTok because it's like the thing you can click as a reply. Yeah, but I actually used it and made it.

He knew. He's watching yours. What do you think the three red hearts mean? Red hearts is crazy. Red is passion. Passion. He's like, yes, I want to do this. Yes, yes, yes.

That's kind of what I thought. Do you think he goes to my profile to look like who this person is? Yes. Because he doesn't reply to everyone. He really doesn't. And the only other person he replied to today was a famous singer that I didn't know. Well, I think he knew who you were. I think he knows who you are.

I feel like he must have gone to my profile to see. I always think they go to my profile because he's like a loyal man. He probably sees I have kids. I'm pregnant. So I think it's safe then to communicate. You know what I mean? Otherwise, I could just be like a little slew out there just trying to get in those DMs. You know what I mean?

So I think, okay, he's like, okay, this is safe. But I saw I Love You Jesus was like my last video from the Chicago show. So I was like, maybe he sees that I am a singer. I think he saw that you were one of the few people that liked that picture with the yellow Speedo. First of all, that's the only one. Moses is like, everyone is like, oh no, jump scare. But first of all, it was viral because everyone thought it was so hot. Yeah, but our audience was just like.

He's just trying not to do the photo for me. I'm comparing it to the idol. Like you like the idol when nobody likes it. Everyone liked this photo.. I'm comparing it to the idol. What? Like, you like the idol when nobody likes it. Everyone liked this photo. And he actually DM'd you the weekend. So I think it's the same thing. I think you really liked it.

No. What? People told him. Wasn't that viral? It was your hot topic last week. You actually brought it up and I was like, oh, I've been wanting

to talk about this. Yeah, I saw it everywhere. I do understand there was definitely a mixed bag. There were some people being like, get this off my timeline. But I feel like, I want to say maybe at least 70% of people were like, yeah.

At least. My mom, my sister, like everybody agrees that he's very, very attractive. And I said, you look like him. And you're my husband. And I was just like, oh, that'd be so great to have that for my birthday as you in like a Speedo like that. Because I think you could do it even better than him. But we love him from White Lotus.

And then obviously he's a singer now because he's in the studio. And I just thought that would be a really good fit. And Moses wore the shirt today because he's like, this looks like a Walton Gawkins shirt. And I was like, it does look like a Walton Gawkins shirt. And I love it. I don't know. I'm too chicken to ever follow up with anybody. But I guess what is it going to hurt?

I don't know. But then it's weird because he says he runs his own Instagram. And then I do think it's kind of maybe a little weird. He's probably like, okay, this is a little too much. You think? Yeah. Why? Because he's kind of like his – he's like the it person right now.

Like he's going to host SNL and stuff. So he's probably like – But you've been on SNL. Yeah, true. Sure. All right. I'm doing it. Messaging him.

Anyways, I'm trying to find a special guest. I need someone to like perform and sing. I need someone to, like, perform and sing. I don't know. We'll see. I have some ideas. But anyways, it's less than a week away, and I have tour this weekend. So I don't know what's happening. But was that the best day of your April?

Was that the best day of my April? Honestly, yeah. I felt cool. Because just, like, Ted being such a fan. I'm like damn. That's cool. The tables have really turned. I truly have charmed Ted Nivisen and I never saw that coming. I never saw that coming. The fact that he like asked about you and

your stuff like I think that's like. Stayed. Yeah. Stayed just to see me. Just spend some time with me. That's so cool. I would be so flustered if like anyone I was a fan of stayed to like talk to me. See I am such like a little smart I would be so flustered if like anyone I was a fan of stated like talk to me a bit. Oh my God, that's so funny. See, I am such like a little smart and like Ted is also kind of. So I feel like we're just like riffing, you know.

We're just like, yeah. A little banter. Yeah, yeah. We have that, you know. You guys look at each other. You guys should have a little. Do a podcast. I don't know. He probably has like four podcasts too.

I think he does have like two podcasts. Yeah. Are they good? Have you listened to them? Yeah, actually. He just started a new one. Oh, his friend who used to be one of his podcast co-hosts, he's like, oh yeah, my friend is having a baby too.

And I was like, I think he's trying to set it up so like both of your babies can be like have play dates or something. We need baby friends. What's that baby do? That's what I told him. I think he said she is six months pregnant right now. Okay. We're at the same age, literally.

Yeah. There you go. Anybody who has a baby is welcome to come to our house for a party because we need all the baby friends we can get. If you're asking Oscar, well, all your nephews, bring them over. It's hard to find. Yeah. Ben Badgley is pregnant.

Well, his wife technically is pregnant. Oh, yeah. Is it twins? Twins. Yeah. Domino Badgley is pregnant at 41 with is it twins yeah domino badgley is pregnant at 41 with twins pretty amazing yeah speaking of him badgley we're talking about him earlier yes you're not gagged by you see is moses gonna do his his what are you thankful for what was it

you were asking oh manifestation yes i forgot what you were asking well also the best day in april oh yeah you manifested coming to my show that was your manifestation what's your best day in april before we transition wow look at you that's so nice of you which day was the best day or in april in april we were so much happened in april we were in we went to see your family in april right yeah i think that was it. Really? Going to Cleveland? Yeah, going to the shows. People were like, yeah, I mean, the show itself was amazing. People were so nice. And then just seeing the kids with all their cousins and kids and stuff. Wow, what a wholesome answer.

Yeah, that was a good trip. That was a big trip. That was fun. You're right. We had your dad for the whole trip. It was like, he was like driving us around with the kids. We had your dad for the whole trip. It was like. Oh, wow. He was like driving us around with the kids every day. We had activities morning till night.

Yeah, you booked him busy. Children's museums, cousins. Wow. Oh, my God. That's so awesome. For April, that was the highlight. Oh, my gosh. I predict the highlight of my May will be you in a yellow neon thong in the Santa Monica

Pier. Thong? It got upgraded from Speedo to thong. Now it's thong in the santa monica pier thong it got upgraded now it's thong no speedo speedo even though i do like your butt i don't love it i don't love a thong it gets bored at a speedo would be it but all right i love it wholesome he's blushing i know he thought about it for a minute no no i never thought you did because you were like but then that picture exists. I visualized it.

And then I realized. Exactly, you thought about it. No, I kind of like think about the future and what that entails. And then I was like, okay, and then that picture will exist. And she can't keep, you know, that picture will be posted somewhere in some capacity. Green screen TikTok. It will live forever. And I don't think it's something people want to see

i want to see it right for you but yeah that's for me it's not it's not me you know what i mean i wouldn't post it anywhere what if i just like it's not my personality to have that kind of picture of me out there okay i'm gonna pressure you maybe you can sing misbehavin' with me at the creek Ready? Mama told me not to I did it anyway Misbehavin' Next line is him I know this song You never seen it once on TikTok?

I saw it once Like And I kind of flipped through Because it wasn't I love you Jesus Or Freaky You know this song? I don't have time

Don't look over here It's like my entire feed is this Right Because you watch it But I flipped through it So I didn't see is this right because you watch it but i flipped through it so i didn't see the whole song i will learn it though okay we got a fill-in no i can't imagine him like i want to see that part of him acting that and singing that's so good i know it makes me want to watch righteous gemstones just for that but you you you you look like him did you dress like him on purpose say with your

little hat and hoodie no but honestly kind of works i did wear i wore um a navy hat over the weekend and i felt like i was giving joe kind of so oh did we post the you know this next week i thought the mukbang we it was very current events but yeah this coming weekend we reacted to um trisha's you hyper fixation era where you were out there recreating uh doing little skits and target and the we didn't react to your asmr but i do have to go back and watch that just for my own personal um yeah because you you did some great stuff with your you your you era was pretty iconic it was before season four so we had binge watched one through three. Yeah.

And I was obsessed. Season four came and I'm like, this is a poop show. I hate it. But he's back with sex scenes in season five, which is the only reason I'm going to watch it again. Because when season four came and he did that whole. Anti-sex scene. Yeah.

Yeah. Very like, I'm trying to be faithful to my wife and this and that. But then season five comes and he's like, that's out the window. I'm just going to start being sexy and out of these scenes again. Alright, I'll watch again. Yeah, he said, I had to throw that out the window, meaning the no sex scenes, because

he wanted Joe to go back to his roots as a serial romantic. That's the whole point of the show. Everyone's in love with this guy, so why would you be in love with someone who has no sexual prowess to him? You know what I mean? Yeah That's the whole point of it. That's the whole appeal You change his mind quickly The producer we're probably like if you want season five

So we it was such a weird angle They took for season four season four was born for a number of reasons but that was being the top yeah i think i mean i've finished you also spoiler alert probably because as you know tricia has or not watched it but has read the synopsis and knows everything so this is an official spoiler alert for you season five but i am gonna watch it not tuned in yet but i'll watch it for the sex scenes that's all i'm watching it for but yeah i'm excited yes i'm excited i'm not excited actually spoiler alert i don't like the way it ended all the articles are like joe gets the ending he deserves and then i looked at it and i was like this is just the ending the hostile part two yeah it was it was interesting it was interesting um again i loved seasons one through three and then, season four I also kind of struggled with.

This season, I was very, it was kind of a mixed bag. I think I just don't like the character that they added in as like the final girl. The one that is responsible for Jo's ending and not continuing anymore. Her name is, her real name is Louise, but she was going by Bronte. Bronte? Bronte. It was so on the nose.

Was it supposed to be like, is that a literature character or something? Yes, exactly. From what? It's an author. Okay. I forget, it's the last name of an author. I forget what the, what her first name was.

Oh, okay. So she was supposed to be his dream girl. Yes, exactly. She kind of was she um this is actually really crazy now that i'm like processing it as i speak it but she was friends with guinevere beck who was um the girl from season one the blonde girl that joe was like obsessed with and she had a suspicion that um dr nicky john stamos wasn't the one that killed her and she would found other people on a subreddit who also had theories about um joe and that he was

actually the one who was responsible for it oh season one they it was blamed on on john yes like he pinned the murder on john stamos the therapist back? No, but the plot twist there is one of the people from the subreddit trying to catch Joe is Dr. Nicky slash John Stamos' son. So that's like Was he hot?

Yeah, he was not. Not like hot. Not like John Stamos' son. No, he was kind of like average guy hot, if that makes sense. Like give me someone who's average guy hot. And it was like a plot twist, too, at that reveal. You know, it was like hidden for like the first half of the season. But I knew something was going on with her because it was so on the nose. I was like, her name is Bronte.

She's stealing books from his bookstore. Like, it was so like specific that i'm like this oh yeah he's back yeah he reopens the bookstore with bronte hires her to work there um yeah and then where's his wife during all this she is um at first they're like working together she's like running the new the business she had him kill a guy that was like threatening to um take the company from her so she was like we have no choice like you have to kill him yes but then he wanted to keep killing people who are like just threatening like could possibly threaten her position in the company she's like no you're crazy we have to stop doing this right and then um she works to try and

like put a stop to him um which is i don't know fine and the the gist of it though is i miss love quinn i feel like all the fans are like we just we miss love quinn victoria pedretti it was just so good in that role so iconic so iconic i think she kind of made the show it like peaked because of because of their dynamic season two and season three were arguably the best i liked season one of course of course, but season 2 was better. Yeah. And I feel like there could have been a way to bring her back. For sure. The rule is, like, if you don't see the body,

they could be alive. They come back. Yeah. Easily. And, you know, it was the fire. I feel like she was, like, such a little mastermind that there was a way that she could have, like, gotten out of that fire. Easily. Yeah. You can always get out of those. I think that would have been cool if she was able to come out because it just wasn't that satisfying to have gotten out of that fire. Easily. Yeah. Can't always get out of those. I think that would have been cool if she was able to come out

because it just wasn't that satisfying to have this new character. Be the end to him. Yeah. And she was kind of annoying, the character. I feel bad because the actress, Madeline Brewer, she's very sweet

and people are leaving her, are spamming her Instagram comments being like, you ruined the show. We hate you. Oh my gosh. Yeah, like, you weren't even hot enough to be a love interest. Like, people were being so nasty to her.

She kind of looks like all the other ones, no? She does, yeah. Yeah, which is, like, the type. And they laid on pretty thick that, like, because, you know, the first few seasons, everyone was, like, kind of crushing on Joe Goldberg, like, online. And Penn Badgley was was like don't do this so they laid on thick of like why are p like because that he gets joe gets like the letters in prison or whatever and he's like oh like everyone's obsessed with sexualizing criminal with serial killers blah blah blah the character joe yes

so penn badgley said that in real life about yeah that was like his whole press tour in the early seasons he's so now they really they incorporated that commentary into the show with like people like being sexually attracted to him and um this will definitely not get him on the podcast but is he a little obnoxious in interviews why is he so pretentious about these things it's like this is the show you're a sexy you're having sex with all the girls you're a sexy guy in the show why are you like stop sexualizing me it's like because you're a hot person having sex with girls on camera. Like I don't understand.

You're like lovely and romantic. Like I hate that. Like why is he acting so surprised? You're like no sex scenes in a show that was all about sex prior. It's like I don't know. Like what's his deal? He doesn't seem like he thinks he's a little too above everything a little bit. The sex scene thing I did think was weird.

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I feel like a lot of people romanticize them and they like the meme was like oh I wish Joe would lock me in his glass box like which is like funny because it's fiction if you're like saying that about who's the one Zac Efron played Ted Bundy obviously he did that to like real women it's a little like a little weird okay

but like this is like fiction fiction? It's like Fifty Shades of Grey when he's like whipping her it's like yeah that's kind of f***ed up if you think that's hot but like whatever I mean that's the show that's what they're selling that's what people are into so like why are you trying to put them down the audience that watches you be like stop

sexualizing me how about don't star in a show about a serial killer being hot like I don't know like that seems more logical instead of blaming someone else the viewers of all people well he's um i don't know i think he's pretty charming in interviews i'm biased though because i i've watched so i had to like edit all his interviews so i've watched like literally like the raw footage of hours of pen badge interviews over the past few weeks i've always thought he was pretty charming, to be honest. I think that's the patriarchy talking. Because he gives me Blake Lively in interviews.

And I feel, and not in a bad way. Not in, like, her whatever. But in the interviews where she tries to come off, like, quirky and whatever. It's, like, the same thing Ryan Reynolds that people think are charming. But it's, like, because it's her, it's whatever. And he's the same way. I love Penn Badger in you. I think he's, like, so hot.

I watch Gossip Girl because of him. Tried to listen to his podcast and couldn't do that but like everything I hear about him he's just like a little like you can call that I watch the Call Her Daddy one and I'm just like I don't know I can't just help but think he's like I'm above everybody watching me and it's like okay I don't know like he thinks he's like smart and he's like out thinking the system but also he's like playing this guy and you're playing these roles and I don't know I just hmm I don't know I think the argument of like him being like don't don't romanticize this guy and you're playing these roles and i don't know i just hmm i don't know i think the argument of like him being like don't don't romanticize this guy when you're playing a romantic lead serial killer is actually the dumbest thing i've ever heard right it's just so dumb yeah

i don't know what's he want what does he want what does he expect when he's like shirtless and sexual like what are they trying to portray if not that a fantasy well he knows he said it's like by design that like obviously people would want to root for him. Because he's, like, even though he's a bad person, he's, like, Joe is the protagonist of the show. And, like, he knows that he's, like, Joe, the character, is, like, manipulating the audience into, like, wanting to root for him. Almost like an anti-hero. So he knows it's kind of, like, subversive like that. But I think his commentary is, like, you know, don't like idolize him.

Don't make him out to be like the big hero. It's like trying to trick the audience, I guess, in a way of like, yeah, we're making you root for this guy. But like you're forgetting that he is killing innocent people. I don't think anyone's forgetting that. I think they're like, this is mine. I don't know. I want him to let me in a glass box as like camp. You know what I mean?

It's a kink. It's like, that's so hot. Like, you know what I mean? Like. I want him to lock me in a glass box as, like, camp. You know what I mean? It's a kink. It's like, that's so hot. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I get it. Obviously, no one really wants that in real life. But, you know, it's Penn Badgley playing a serial killer, locking you up in a glass box with all these hot girls. And you're like, all right, sign me up for it.

I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I think it's like, it sounds, even, because you're very smart, too. It sounds like intellectual people trying to tell you, like, this is what it really means. But it's like, no, you're just, I don't know what's trying to, I feel like you're very smart, too. It sounds like intellectual people trying to tell you, like, this is what it really means. But it's like, no, you're just I don't know what's trying. I feel like you're in the Twilight Zone. I'm like, I think that's just all too nuanced.

Is that the right word? I don't know. He seems like a guy who would use the word nuance. Oh, he definitely would. He'd probably use a bigger word than nuance. For sure. He just. He's definitely like an intellectual kind of guy.

I don't think I would ever, you know, I wouldn't have the Ted Nibbizan effect with Penn Badgley, I don't think i would ever you know i wouldn't have the ted nibbizan effect with penn badgley i don't think but you never know you guys talk similar and you guys have similar views apparently about the situation maybe when you watch it because i don't know they laid on really really thick with like the social commentary about like how um how easy it is for like a man to get away with murder honestly that's kind of the vibe and then how the women who try to like call out that behavior get like put in dangerous positions of like um literally like their lives are in danger because they caught kind of the callouts they're abusers so it's kind of interesting all right so watch it i guess but it's like

i i i don't know what you're gonna think though it, I guess. But it's like, I don't know what you're going to think, though. To me, it was so blatant in your face, but maybe you'll think. I love it.

I love you. It's like my favorite show in the whole world. That's why I was so annoyed with season four because I was so excited. I don't think we finished season four.

I don't even know what happened in season four. It was visually dark. I couldn't see anything and no sex scenes and I'm like, this all sucks. Yeah,

and I didn't love that love interest either. Because there was no chemistry. There was nothing like, this all sucks. Yeah. And I didn't love that love interest either. Because there was no chemistry. There was nothing. No passion. There was nothing. I don't think there was a kiss. I don't remember it at all, to be honest.

I had to watch a recap summary of everything that happened in you before watching this new season. Because I forgot literally everything. Did anything from the London season carry on? Yeah. It's very connected to season four. Like all the characters? A good chunk. Like Kate is still in it.

Marianne comes back. Well, Marianne I liked in season three. I liked her character. The girl, the student that they like pinned the murder of the random politician on is bad. Oh, yeah. None of that I remember. I watched like four episodes.

I'm like, nothing. I liked Lucas Gage. I thought he was cute, but I had no idea what he was doing in that movie either. Just like all these people together. Boy. And he seemed like way older, Penn Badger, than everyone else in the show. Like he seemed like there was a bunch of young kids, right? And he was like the old teacher.

He was the teacher. It was giving Matthew Morrison glee. But he wasn't really hanging out with the college kids. Wasn't he like in like – I just remember like there were, like, there were scenes, like, at a party. And he was, like, at the parties. Oh. And I'm, like, why is this, like, old teacher with a beard here? Because it was just so weird.

All the other ones were, like, we're so hot and, like, whatever. And then he was just, like, there. They were, like, socialized. But they weren't in college. They were older. They were not in college? No. Not the group he was hanging with.

Oh, the Lucas Gage people were not in college? I don't remember. No. They were, like group he was hanging with. Oh, the Lucas Gage people were not in college? I don't remember. No, they were like the socialite group. Oh, okay. And then there was a separate group of like the group of kids that he was teaching. They all blended into me. It was very interesting. It was very interesting.

I feel bad for Madeline Brewers getting all the hate, but Bronte was a very odd character choice. I don't know. Blame the writers. Well, character choice i don't know the writers well maybe don't don't blame the writers yeah that is weird it's always weird to blame the actress in something because honestly if i was hired for something and it was a role i'd still do it yeah what is she supposed to do yeah she was working with what she got so it sounds like a good role i mean like the character obviously not but like i would take it if they're like you want to be the romantic lead and use that one that finally shuts Joe Goldberg down.

Like that is iconic. Yeah. But because it is the final girl. But it's just hard to introduce a final girl at like the end of the end of the series. And then trying to tie her to the girl from season one to tying her to Beck. But it's not like that was like the groundwork was laid for that. I think maybe if in season one they had to kind of lay the groundwork and we saw this girl like as a little Easter egg or something, you know, then it wouldn't feel more fulfilled. But she just kind of came out of nowhere.

So you weren't like attached to her at all. They wouldn't do that. So that's why I was really hoping for like a love Quinn resurrection or something. That would be good. Victoria Progetti was just way too good as that character. And I know she's also like horrible like the character not Victoria Pergetti. Like she's also a killer. But

again that's the charm of the show. Yeah I think if they have like a Mr. and Mrs. Smith thing where they're like trying to like you know take each other out and then I don't know I feel like that could have been a good They tried to do that right? Was that season 3? Kinda yeah. I think if we brought that back and then somehow they both ended up getting caught I guess but I don't know you should be a showrunner honestly tea I feel like I could have a better idea no offense to the writers I think you know yeah but it wasn't bad but I just could have been

it could have been better I'm excited to watch it I love those shows I love any show you know me I just love like a show like that makes feel. Especially those kind of shows. Because I don't watch porn. This is definitely a sexier season. He has a lot of masturbation scenes. Oh, he really went full circle. He's like, no kissing. Let me just.

He's whacking a lot. He whacks at least, I think, five times. That's an odd choice, though. Because we always talk about this. But then he doesn't have to play it out with another actress well he did though he does yeah no but I'm saying

those five times are five times less so he's like let me just give you more sexualness I think it's the unsexiest thing is masturbation

I mean I want to watch it I love it I'm excited for it but that's an odd choice because it's also like I guess guys find it sexy I don't know weirdly he's like

having sex like the you see the sexual fantasies. Oh. But he's whacking up to his fantasies. So it's like a double whammy. It's a double whammy. Is he hunched?

Is he like... Do you know how they hunch over? Honestly, yeah. I hate when they do that in shows. It's, like, aggressive. He's really going at it. Be, like, sexy. Like, lay back or something.

It's, like, it's getting it done. Like, Joe is, like... It's, like, fast. Oh, my God lay back or something. It's like, it's getting to dawn. Like, Joe was like, it's like fast. Oh, my God. Hard and fast. Oh, okay. So we'll see. I don't know how I feel about it, but I. I wonder if they have intimacy coordinators for those scenes.

For a solo scene? That's interesting. I don't know. They should in this day and age. It's like one person. Tell you how to do it. Tell you how to do it. Yeah, how to do it. That's so frustrating.

Don't tell me. Because they might bring their own, like, you know what I mean? Techniques. Somebody told me, like, that's not how the majority of people do it. He's a lot. What happened to his podcast? Pod crushes off or what? I think he finished that podcast, too.

He's done. I think, yeah. He's done. I think, yeah. He's retiring. Yeah. Hmm. Okay. I like a little mystery when it comes to actors,

I think. Yeah, he is kind of aloof, I think. No, I think he's doing too many interviews. Yeah. I see too much of his personality now.

I feel like he was only, like, only when he had you, he was, like, doing the promotion. Really, right? I don't know. Call her daddy. Once you're on there, you're pretty much like, here when he had you, he was, like, doing the promotion. Really, right? I don't know. Call her daddy. Once you're on there, you're pretty much like, here's my life.

You know what I mean? Like, let me tell you everything. I don't know how I feel about it, but. But you know some people come across so charming, and then some people you're just like, I don't like this person anymore. Yeah. Well, won't be on this podcast, I guess, but I do love him. I love him acting.

Were you going to use the name Paper Mate for a baby because of Penn? No, it wasn't because of Penn, but people started saying that. I didn't even know who Penn Badgerly was when I came up with Paper Mate. Interesting. That's what I just assumed, too. Paper Mate and Penn would be cool if they were twins. Yeah. You should, oh, I guess Penn.

Maybe Penn Jr., Penn Jr. and Paper Mate. No Penn. After these interviews, no. I like Jr. Penn Jr. and Peepermate. No Penn. After these interviews, no. I like it, but no. It sounds like Penn State. Oh, I didn't even think about that, but you're kind of right, yeah. I don't know where that is, but I saw someone with... Pennsylvania, I'm assuming. Oh. Okay, big brains over there. Well, Gen X Penn is, yeah. From Pennsylvania? From Penn... Oh! She went to Penn State? I don't think she went to Penn State, but I just... Now Penn...

Jen X Penn. I just, yeah, associate with Pennsylvania. And I would say that's probably correct, so... Speaking of Jen X Penn and original beauty influencers, Ms. Remy Ashton got her eighth Domino's pizza brand deal. This is breaking news. How many eights? Why?

Another one. And all she had to do was, like, we threw threw a surprise party and we had Domino's come. I'm like, what is happening? Every week is a Domino's paid partnership. What happened to the son of the Domino's owner or whatever? I don't know. I think it was not real. I got duped.

I get duped a lot. The problem is they get the promo for free because you eat Domino's then you also talk about Remy's Domino's brand deals so they're like well we can just get more bang for our buck. I love Domino's. Even the last time we did a Patreon I was like ooh should we get Domino's and then we didn't get Domino's for lunch but then that night I had Domino's because that's all I was thinking about.

I was like I want some Domino's pizza. Actually we had it right before I left on tour. We had Domino's for lunch. I ordered it in. I just love a good Domino's. It's so good. So she threw a pizza party? She threw a surprise party and Domino's. And all she had to do was show the Domino's boxes. It was crazy.

I was like, surprise party for Alicia? I don't know. She threw a surprise party for somebody. Oh, God. And there was one night they had a date night and they were eating pizza together, her and Cal. And I was just like, this is the content I make every day just for fun. I want to know her,

now that we know she got $45,000 for the Aerie Instagram story, I'm like, I wonder what she gets for like an eight post brand deal. Or maybe it's like a 10 post brand deal.

Maybe she's going to keep posting. Maybe it's just two more. Could you mind like a million dollars for 10 posts? She'll probably get in that. Honestly. Speculation, I don't know. We need to just promote

Pizza Hut until they... No. Well then, then we're promoting Pizza Hut. We're about 10, but then they'll be like, okay, we need to stop this. We need her to go back to Domino's.

Oh, an invention. Domino's. Pambaj's wife is named Domino. Domino, yeah. That's a cool name. I wonder if that's her real name. I think so. I think she's British, too.

I would actually name her... And I know somebody named Domino. Yeah. You know somebody named Domino? I would name our baby Domino. That's kind of cool. Domino's. Domino's. Yeah. of cool. Domino's.

Give me that 10 partnership deal. This baby could be The birth is the first one that comes out. Domino's fetus. The way Logan Paul with his baby with Prime and Feastable. What was it called? What's his little

Snackly. Awful name too. Awful name. Did you see that one clip clip i know you never see any clips of him you saw trust me i did this was one of my hot topics we talked about it on extended and you're like i haven't seen any clips of this show well this clip of logan paul made its way to um you know maybe the the gay and girly side of of twitter because everyone was making fun of it but there is um a new clip of him from paul american come across like a woke but like dude women have it hard and uh he had a um a big feminist awakening um he was doing this it was like one of the interview scenes and there's like the most dramatic music

playing in the background and he said thinking about having a daughter my mind went to some dark places dude i don't want to come across like a woke but like dude women have it hard women have it hard and i empathize with them. Wow. Okay. Breaking. Like, I love the wokeness is like not to be a woke, but sexism exists. What? Where have you been?

That was crazy. What? You're a feminist. We can't like 31 years old is not wild. Cut to him. A couple episodes earlier being like me having a daughter is karma for how I treated women. It's like, what are you talking about? Like he's wild cut to him a couple episodes earlier being like me having a daughter is karma for how I treated women it's like what are you talking about like he's

this show makes him look so horrible in every way I hope this is like literally him playing up characters because this show makes me actually strongly dislike not hate

because according to Moses I'll hate everybody strongly dislike this person like everything about him is just like ew like what like

it is so. I think it was, like, a genuine moment. Because it was, like, the music was so, like, somber and serious. Like, a breakthrough moment for him. Yes. Like, listen to this, everybody. Not to be a woke. But women have it hard.

Not to be. The fact that, like, just empathizing with women is, like, a woke thing. Also, it's, like, I feel like his next woke epiphany will be, like, racism exists or something. Right. Like, the most, like, basic fundamental, like, knowledge about human existence. Oh, my God. Logan Paul is, like, still catching up and learning.

Granted, at least. He's learning. Better late than never. You know, I will give him that. Yeah. That's true. You know, it's nice that he is empathizing now rather than never. That's true.

So there's that. That is very true now rather than never. That's true. So there's that. That is very true. We have to applaud a little growth. Yeah, but how do you, like, get engaged? You literally were engaged and you were, like, boxing or whatever the hell. And your partner was going through, like, sexist attacks, like, every day by your boxing partner. Right, that part. And, like, he was belittling her and saying all this horrible stuff about her.

And you were just – Now. Just now. Now that she's pregnant with your daughter you're like oh they go through some. Yeah. Misogyny. Oh sexism. Not to be woke. Like your family got dragged through the mud by a man for like eight months just degrading her and her sexual past and it's just like

how? What? Really bizarre. Really really bizarre stuff. Logan is I really, I don't know. I used to kind of like, again, this is what I'm saying. Less is more sometimes because when he was wrestling and stuff and I was like, wow, I was really impressed by his athleticism. He was kind of quiet. I was like, I'm kind of impressed by the journey of the Pauls. Then this show comes and it's just like, I actually dislike him more than Penn Badgley, I think.

I think, yeah. I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I'd rather take, yeah. Also just different end of the spectrum. Brain wise. Very opposite. Yeah.

You think Logan's like an intellectual? No. Do you think he's smart? It's different. In certain fields. I mean, like you can be smart in business, but not emotionally intelligent. But also, right. Do you think, this is unrelated to Logan Paul, scammers are smart?

Like if you scam people, are you a smart person? I think it depends. I think sometimes scamming does take a certain kind of smarts. But also if you're just like, if you have really good people skills, you know. Yeah. But you're only smart until you get caught. True. And then you're in prison and you're like, oh, I was so stupid. Like, what did I do to myself?

That's what I understood. Like the Wolf of Wall Street guy, like he seems smart. But then also like, how did he like end up in prison and lose all his money? And it's like, well, are you smart or are you not because you got all that money and you made all this noise but then it's like then you also just

but there's ego and greed and some people don't know when to stop and you know what I mean like so it's it's more complicated than just being smart

who do you think is smarter Hawk Tua or Logan Paul I would say damn this is tough you're asking the hard-hitting questions today i'm tenificent over here just challenging your mind on a monday i think i almost want to say hawk toa because at least you knew when to bow out you know what i mean she was like this is getting too much i'm gonna go to sleep y'all you know like that's that's my favorite that's fierce you know like yes i'm pretty tired y'all i'm gonna go sleep i'm like

that's kind of smart you know who made more money in their crypto well he did yeah oh really i thought she made a lot off her coin but logan has like first of all with her whatever money that she didn't get that money it's people that convince her to do this probably. I feel like give me that chunk of money. But he had different ventures, you know, and I'm sure he made money just investing in crypto, just investing. Didn't he have something too that was a little... He had the animal zoo something, NFT something.

Sounds like something you'd invest in. Animal crossing over here. But yeah, there's something and I don't know know the details so i don't want to say something he's obviously fine he's out no i'm just saying something was right people think that something was wrong with it but i don't know what exactly but a lot of money was made for sure more than yeah they were saying something like he was going to spend like a million two million three million dollars something on a venue or something for the wedding. It's crazy.

He's definitely rich. He's definitely rich. I guess it does take some brains to get that rich, right? So I guess mama kudos for that. Who do you think is smarter in IQ tests, Ben Badgley or Logan Paul? Ben Badgley. Is he like educated? I don't know anything about him.

Like he comes across intelligent, but is he an actual intellectual I feel like he reads a lot of books I was just gonna say that yeah see because of Joe Goldberg no the way he speaks yeah

oh okay okay I don't know how many books has Logan Paul read I would love to know I don't know did he go to college to me he seems like a frat boy

that went to like Ohio State or something I don't know I'm just Penn Badgley seems like a child actor. He is, yeah. That would just, you know. I could see Logan reading books that Trump wrote.

You know, Art of the Deal or something like that. I could see Pam Badgley reading Nietzsche and. Where did he go? He went to Ohio State University and majored in industrial engineering. Shut up. But he dropped out. Oh my God, that's gross. Didn great didn't i just say that would i just say frat ohio state he seems like a frat boy that went to like ohio state or something i don't know i'm just oh my god i think you did i don't know i feel like either that or i was really thinking that i was about to say it that's so crazy i knew nothing about it wow okay i would love to see him engineer something. Did he go to a semester?

Yeah, he dropped out in 2014. How old is he? Oh, okay. Born in 97. Ten years younger than me. Okay, I mean, he got into, what is that called when it's not community college? What is that? University.

State university. Yeah. Could never be me. Smarter than me. That's crazy. Like, if you had to give me a college exam or whatever, you take the LSATs, I mean, I would never pass it. SAT, yeah.

SAT. What's LSATs? Is that different? Honestly? What is it? That is a good question. Look up LSATs. Isn't SAT

law school oh like Kim Kardashian yes yes that sounds so familiar that does sound familiar I wouldn't pass that either or the SATs

yeah actually I skipped the day they did SAT classes or SAT testing I just didn't go I was like I'm not going to do that would you be a good lawyer

I mean because first of all you can read so fast just going through all that material so fast which is like the hardest thing for most people to do. All right. Maybe.

Thank you. I like the enthusiasm. I read of Mice and Men once in freshman year of high school. Did you read it? I've never read that. You've never read of Mice and Men? You ever see the movie? No.

With John Malkovich? Really? That's actually my favorite book. It's such a good movie. It's a classic literature. The ending is like very symbolic, full circle, sad, tragic, all of it. Oh my God, it's really good. Wow, you're sounding like Penn Badgley a little bit right now.

You know, we can talk about books all day. What a bookworm. You can't keep your nose out of a good book. I feel like I used to like books back in the day, but I can't even tell you good ones. I wrote a lot of Nancy Drew as a kid. Me too, actually. Did you? Yeah, I loved the Nancy Drew.

I loved those books, like with the covers of the staircase and it was her going down Yeah, like they were yellow. Yeah. I loved getting a Nancy Drew book. That was so fun. Didn't they try to make a movie with Emma Roberts? Yes. Was it good?

I was seated for it. I think I was probably the only person seated for it. I remember seeing it in the movie theater. I was very excited about it. But yeah, I think I was the only person who saw it. Really? Yeah, I feel like it came and gone. Yes. But I wanted to see it and I was like, I person seated for it. I remember seeing it in the movie theater. I was very excited about it. But yeah, I think I was the only person who saw it. Yeah, I feel like it came and gone. But I wanted to see it. And I was like, I don't remember it at all.

But I enjoyed it. But even now, honestly, it doesn't take much to make me like a movie. Just like girl boss behavior, solving a crime. I'm like, here I go. Speaking of girl boss behavior, did you see the new, what is the Blake Lively and a Kendrick one? Oh, another Simple Favor. The Simple Favor sequel. Did you watch it? No, it is out Blake Lively, Anna Kendrick one? Oh, another Simple Favor. The Simple Favor sequel. Did you watch it?

No, it is out next week. I think May 2nd. Maybe. I liked the first one. I don't remember anything about it, but I remember being at the theater and enjoying it. Okay. You'll be there. Is it theaters?

It's on Amazon Prime or whatever now. Would you watch it? Maybe. I think I would. I think I would if I had nothing to watch. But I like a thriller mystery, though.

That's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a little... I don't know how... I know nothing about the sequel, but the first one was like a... It was almost like a Gone Girl-esque.

Did you ever see Gone Girl? No, I need to watch it. It's Tana's favorite movie. I was going to say. Yeah. I haven't seen it. I want to. We need to watch it it's Tana's favorite movie I was gonna say yeah I haven't seen it I want to we need to watch it that should be on the top

of the list but Netflix in it yeah I'll watch it it sounds like something I would like I like a little thriller I like a little liar

that goes I tried to fake my own kidnapping when I was a kid I used to run away from home and just like see how long my mom would notice and get scared she never came to look for me

so I'd just go home I'd just be like alright I mean I don't want to be gone for like an hour but I was so scared it'd be like night time the lights would come on and like my mom didn't come look for me so I just go home I just be like alright I mean I don't want to be gone for like an hour but I was so scared it'd be like night time the lights would come on and like my mom

didn't come look for me I was like I guess I'll just go home I was like that's crazy yeah you might really enjoy Gone Girl I like the concept of it at least not in real life

although I don't want to get yelled at by the actors to be like don't romanticize this life just by watching a movie okay it's just a it's a book

but like a a fictional book yeah there was a fictional book the last fictional book I read like that it was a long time ago it was like 10 years ago

but it was like a big one maybe it was like 15 years ago it was really popular at the time and it was like I'd never seen Gone Girl but it gave me Gone Girl vibes it was like do you remember the one

called like Girl on a Train or something yes and she was like always like riding the train into town and like it was like maybe in London

or something like that yeah and she like got off the train one day and it was like this was like always like riding the train into town and like it was like maybe in London or something like that. And then she like got off the train one day and it was like this whole like scary like person following her. Yeah. I used to like – I don't – I remember the book totally but I was like really into it. I remember being like I want to be in this movie. I wonder if they ever made a movie on it.

I feel like – I don't think they did. I don't think they did. It was popular though. Everyone was like reading it. Yeah. I love books. I want to read a book again. don't think they did. It was popular, though. Everyone was, like, reading it. Yeah. I love books. I want to read a book again. And Badger's influence.

Okay. I'll read it. If he has a book club, I'll read it. If you have a book club, I'll read your books, too. Gen X Penn. Gen X Penn's book. Yeah. Logan Paul's book.

I would not read Paul American, that's for sure. But, yeah, another simple favorite next week. I don't know. I think I will see it. I am intrigued. They did – the premiere was last night and they did no interviews, obviously. That's crazy. Yeah.

Wait, but they were, like, on the red carpet. Was that the premiere? That was the premiere, yeah. They did photos and, like, they posed together a video and that was that. No interviews. Isn't that so funny? It's, like, now that you, you like see them in a different light, like that's all you see is them being like awkward and weird.

And you look at like every little like nuance, like a little, like a little movement and like, oh, he's annoyed with her. She's this or whatever. Yes. They're just so awkward now on a red carpet.

Oh my God. That reminds me though of like the chapel room controversy. Did you see this? The pushing? Yes. But it kind of, it gives me similar vibes because of this one angle of Chappell on a red carpet. I didn't actually get to see it.

They said, oh, she's pushing her employee again. And I was like, what is it? Yeah. So there is this TikTok that went viral of Chappell walking the red carpet, I believe, at the CFDA Awards. And she's walking. She's with her stylist and then an employee who was, like, escorting her. And she, like, is walking. Then she realizes to get off the carpet, it's, like, behind her.

So she makes, like, a sharp turn to exit the carpet. Okay. And then one angle, it does look like she, like, shoves the girl that's escorting them to, like, get out of the way so she can, like, leave the carpet. Shove,ove like how? I'll show you the bad angle. Is that? Yeah, like your hand is, you know, because from the side you couldn't see,

her hand was like at this level. Oh, like optical illusion. So you're like... You look like Gautier in that shirt and I like it. Do you know? It does, yeah. Good drawings. But you didn't have to cut me off.

Make out like you never. Someone said Moses looks like everybody you do. You kind of look like the guy from Goatee, actually, now with the long hair. You didn't have your beard. I could. They were in the new Dochi, Anxiety. It's my anxiety.

And they were in that shirt. Do, do, do, do, do, do. It's my anxiety. There was literally 100 high school kids going on the way to Washington, D.C. this morning in the airport. And they kept going back and forth by the Chili's bar and grill where we're sitting.

And they just kept like going back and forth like sharks in the water. And then the teacher finally came up and I, but that song was in my head. I was like, did my anxiety. I was getting so nervous. Like these a hundred middle schoolers are about to like swarm. Like when we saw the team,

the sports team. Yeah. Yeah. That's what this was. And then the teacher finally came up and asked, and I was like, can we do a group photo? Because I just did meet and greets all weekend, and having to meet 100 people before my 7 a.m. flight is going to be crazy.

They were nice. They were like 8th graders. They were sweet. Okay, I'm going to see this. Here's the video. Sorry. While you were watching. Okay.

So you see, here's one. I have another angle, too. Okay, that's so hard to tell. She puts her hand out, and people are like, oh, she shoved her, and then she makes her face. Oh, the face, okay. And then there was one other angle. It was like the JFK assassination. All the angles.

Poor Chappell can't get to break either down. And then. You would act like she, you'd think she would, like, punch her in the face or something. Let's see. Was that a different angle? You can kind of see here, yeah. Like you see her hand go out and then it looks like maybe she's pushing. Or she could be waving or she could be flipping.

Yeah, people really just got in and ran with it. It looks more like she's startled. She's like, oops. Right, that could be balance. I don't know. To me it doesn't look like a push. She didn't touch her. Right. And then, well. And the lady's face probably like, she I don't know. To me, it doesn't look like a push. She didn't touch her. Right.

And then, well. And the lady's face probably, like, she probably didn't know she was coming. She probably, like, oh, it's Chapel Rowan. Like, I don't know. I don't. I'm not trying to defend Chapel. I don't know. No, they're.

Ironically, E.T. is the one that saved her. So, you're welcome, Chapel. Really? I didn't even make the TikTok, so I didn't do anything. But, yeah, ironically, E.T. was the one that kind of saved her because this angle went viral. One of our producers was there like on the carpet just like filming

because they weren't doing interviews. None of the celebrities that were there just filming people walking. So. What a job. What a funny job.

I know, honestly. Like go film them walking in the red carpet. And she's so cute. She was like, can you wave to E.T.? And it's her and the iPhone. But anyway. My life's actually big. She was like, can you wave to E.T.? And it's her and the iPhone. But anyway,

they... My life's actually big. What is this? iPhone. I love that. Because seriously, what the hell? Why are you on the red carpet with an iPhone? iPhones. I love that video. But yeah, E.T. posted this. Again, not thinking anything of it, just like, you know, chapel walking. But

here is like the actual angle of what happened. And you can see she does wave. Yeah, you see her just stop, realize she's going the wrong way. And then, yes. Oh, excuse me. She was like waving. The girl's like walking towards you. Oh, excuse me.

Yes, the girl was walking behind her. Didn't see Chapel stop to turn. And so that's why that girl made the face. Because she was like, oh, I almost bumped into her. Did the internet apologize? Yes. This angle. It's so funny.

Because they posted this on TikTok last week. And it flopped. It never even hit the algorithm. It got like 9,000 views. It completely flopped. And I was like, damn, that's weird. Because even a flop usually at least get like 20,000 or something. But over the weekend, this TikTok ended up getting like 700 000 views and like all the comments are

like oh damn this is what actually happened and everyone's like oh okay i see so it is it made me sad to see like the way things spread from like one angle you know it's like that's what's a reminder for me too because you know if i only saw the other angle i'd be like oh that's a little rude you know but then seeing this i'm like she didn't do anything she just was walking realized she was going the wrong way stopped to turn you know that is so wild why is he not out together that's so crazy i know it's like anything you know when people are like just looking for a reason to like dislike you it is kind of the worst oh my god she literally was being like polite yeah she waved

like I was about to like run into you like that's crazy just was going the wrong direction and just stopped and turned you know and I'm like it's just so sad how the internet works like people are so wild too and seeing the Mina stuff too like I always knew she was the nasty left

leftist white woman it's like fake leftist fake liberal I'm like what is this what does politics have anything to do with her everything always something just throw it in there poor thing I'm like she cannot catch a freaking break it kind of reminds me I never saw this clip but it's an old clip and it's like do you ever see the clip of Scott Johansson on a red carpet and like the woman disappears

yes this is so specific I love that you're thinking this stuff it came up on my ex this weekend and like I'll never get over what happened here. What happened? Just like an optical illusion of like it looks like. Was there a different angle

for that? There was another angle and you see the woman just walking. Because you see the guy. There's a second guy that goes but you don't see the woman. She just disappears.

Yeah. What is the angle? What's the angle? Perspect perspective is everything that's what this is it's a good reminder I'm gonna see that lady reappear cause that was crazy I had never seen it and I was like oh my god I think I wanna say in the proper angle she like

ducks out of the way or something like she like ducked like lowered herself but I remember even then I'm like I don't know that was a crazy clip perspective is everything it's a good reminder you know like that's why it did remind me of like Blake and Anna Kendrick because there are's a good reminder you know like that's why i it did remind me of like blake and anna kendrick because there are some clips of them you're like oh my god

they obviously hate each other but then like there's other clips that look normal and it's like damn like yeah a lot of people just are projecting on like a video and there's you know it's also like malicious i think it reminds me of the hailey beaver video with that girl when she was done like oh i don't like people touching me. Oh, right, right, right. And then they show the full, like, again, it's another angle in a way,

but it's the same thing. Somebody clipped that like, oh, it looks like she's pushing her. Let's push that narrative out there. Don't want to ride a carpet, I guess, is the moral of that story.

I just get things kicking out of context. I know, it's so sad. So awkward. Red carpets are awkward anyway. They're so awkward and very stressful. So stressful. You just like, it's really like no one wants you there unless you're the star. So it's like, then you're also

like, what am I doing here? Get out of the way. And then when you're the star, everyone's like screaming at you and you're like, yo, I'm just here to like take a photo and like, you know, get out. I would love to be the star. That's not what she's wearing. You know, she almost needs like little side mirrors so she can actually see. True. Oh, yeah.

Those outfits are crazy. Those, like, I would imagine trying to, like, see your way. Yeah, because, like, it was covering her face. She couldn't really, like, you know, turn her neck or anything. And then her hair. Yeah. Team Chapel over here. Yeah.

Always have been. Mm-hmm. I felt so bad. Seeing her trending on Twitter and everyone, like, running with, like, the discourse without, like, seeing the actual facts is crazy. And then once there is facts then people just don't talk about it.

Yeah, people don't care anymore. They're like, well, they're over it. They're like, oh, okay. But people just choose to believe. I had to make a pitch too

before I forget. Last week after we filmed, we were talking about those Hulu, remember the Hulu thing where it's like new TV coming? Oh, yeah. Oh, we have the Chloe popcorn. That's not what I was going to say,

but we do have Chloe popcorn. The protein popcorn. The cloud protein. I was so excited. I had Moses go to like three targets to find this popcorn. It was really good. But they announced

the new Golden Bachelor and I just have to make this little pitch out there because they're filming in June and they film literally right down the street from us. Like literally the Bachelor stays in the hotel on the street.

Not the White Lotus Hotel, a different hotel. And my mom would like to be on it. She's applied now. She applied for Gary's season in Naked On. She applied for Mel Owens' season. Mel Owens is the exact same age as my mom. 1958. They were both born. They were both raised in Illinois to Calvin Freeport.

And my mom really, really wants to get on this season. We could just drop her off. She's right down the street. They ask for your net worth when you apply for The Bachelor. Interesting. Then they also ask for a picture of the front of your house. What? Yeah, she had to take a picture of the front of my house. She applied through the ABC

website, but I'm like, that's kind of odd. Anyways, because my mom wanted to pay us. She came on stage with me this weekend and every place we went to, and I did not tell her this. I did not tell her to say it. She would just be like, okay, real quick, everyone, get your TikToks out. Let ABC know I need to be on the new golden bell i've seen hundreds of tiktoks she said every city too i loved it i kind of became i guess her bit i was like okay i love

this and then the people kind of like went crazy and then they were tagging so please have my mom on there i don't understand how she's like not been casted so please have her on i can drop her off i'll be on it if you want me to be on the show i'll be on there as like a little celebrity guest or something like that um i would love and we you want me to be on the show I'll be on there as like a little celebrity guest or something like that I would love and when you guys want to come meet the family we can have a little

like barbecue outside we'll have Oscar there we'll just see who we can bring they'll look like we have a lot of friends anyways alright

Golden Bachelor ABC have my mom and then if she does well maybe she can go on Dancing with the Stars Mel Owens will probably

be on Dancing with the Stars this season. You know, they always put their bachelors on there. That's my bitch. And we love ABC. The best, in my opinion. That's the only network I want to be on.

Yeah. Okay. Name three ABC shows. The Bachelor, Dancing with the Stars. I don't think Dancing with the Stars is even ABC anymore. Isn't it just Hulu? Really?

I think. Is the ABC even around anymore? Then you had a trick question. I don't know if there's ABC Family. ABC. I don't know. Is The Bachelor even on ABC then? Ow.

Yeah. Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, yeah. Wait, is he? I. Yeah. Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, yeah. Wait, is he? I think he's ABC. He might be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jimmy Kimmel and...

Honestly, I don't even know. I used to know back in the day, but I don't know. We watch everything on Hulu. Exactly, yeah. I forget what's on what, but work. Love ABC. Much love to ABC. That's another manifestation. Should we try the popcorn the popcorn now it kind of sounds gross huh maybe towards the end you know for the listeners that stick all the way

to there they're like we're gonna end it actually okay fair enough oh man i've been saying i'm too many planes my back i'm your back got contagious on my back now now I'm like I can't move that's crazy oh my god my back is like even standing on those little walkways that move for you I was just like I couldn't I was just like oh my god my back hurts standing maybe I had what you had maybe yeah

I'm gonna be a pregnant probably that me and Ted and Efficent's friend 28 weeks um haley bieber speaking of called out my place of work and i thought it was kind of kind of interesting she's coming for you she kind of is honestly um entertainment tonight posted an instagram a quote from uh haley bieber speech from um she won an award Daily Front Row Fashion Los Angeles Awards.

Oh wait! This is where Chapel was at ironically. I think this is the same event. Yes. She won an award for Beauty Innovator of the Year. Anyway, the Entertainment Tonight Instagram quote made like a quote graphic from Hailey Bieber's

speech. And i thought it was i didn't even full transparency i didn't make this i have nothing to do with it um but uh the quote was i want to thank my husband for supporting this dream of mine from the beginning and for always cheering me on um that was the graphic and then she posted it to her instagram story and she said might as well have made this headline hayley thanks her husband in a speech she made while receiving an award for her own company that she built but we would rather acknowledge that she mentioned her husband instead of celebrate her accomplishment i was like oh my god okay girl i know i was like damn yeah i'm not

on the hayley bieber patreon you know i love hayley same i do. I do too. I was like, what? It was a lot. I was like, wait, what? And then I was, it was on Saturday and I'm the only person working and I'm like, do I delete this post? Cause she seems very upset. You have access to it? Yeah. Cause I'm a, I don't, I like cover on the weekends for like every platform, but like

normally on the, on the day to day, I don't do Instagram. Oh. So I didn't do this post. You should have responded. You know how they have't do this post. You should have responded. You know how they have the social media people. You should have responded. Like Wendy's. Yes.

Like Wendy's with Katy Perry. That would have been so good. It was a lot of energy. What would you have said back if you were a snappy Wendy's social media person? God, I don't even know. Because in the moment, I was like, girl, this is a lot. Like, it actually stayed with me. I was like, first of all, I didn't make this post.

And no one would get in trouble or anything. But I felt bad for the girl who did it. Because I know she's like, just like, she's so sweet. She's like 24. She's so sweet. She like, is always anxious about making anyone upset. And I feel like the fact that she made Haley Bieber upset, she probably would be so sad about it.

You should have replied in the stories for ET and put eye roll. That's what I would have done. I'm like, girl, B for and put eye roll it was a lot like this is the headline first of all it wasn't even a headline it was a quote from your speech you said it you said it oh she said in her speech she said it in her speech she said i want to thank my husband so like and no one like okay with these entertainment like news sites like people are gonna find the thing that makes you like most relatable for relatable for, like, an Instagram. Yeah. Because that's where they'll get the most engagement.

How many people can relate to you having, like, a billion-dollar beauty company? Right. Not a lot. How many people can relate to you having a supportive husband? Right. A lot. A lot. That's the relatable thing about you, A.

B, there's so many, like, tabloid rumors and stuff about them having marital problems. Having a sweet quote that shows that they, like, are, you know, going strong and, like, supporting each other. That's good. She's just not happy about anything. She's not. She wants nothing. She wants people. Yeah.

And I get, like, she must – it must be touchy because, like, obviously she's really proud of, like, road and stuff and, like, the success. So it must be annoying for this to kind of be like tied to her husband but you're the one that said it and like yeah when travis kelsey wins the super bowl and taylor swift is there like the headline isn't travis kelsey is really good at football it's taylor swift is supporting travis kelsey yes yes when that's the appeal yeah when kieran colkin won the oscar and was like shouting out his wife and having babies, like. That's not true. She's not even famous. Yeah.

Like, the other ones, it's like, okay, you're a famous person. So, like, if they were on our podcast, we would mention Justin Bieber in the title for sure. Yeah. Anyone, Tara, Yemi, whatever, Demetri, like, you would mention them in the title. But even, yeah, you said Kieran Culkin doesn't even have a famous wife and they still mention him talking about being in love with her. And, you know, I'm very, like, sensitive to like uh like women and wanting to like empower them but it's just it's for any gender any sex like if a if a husband has a supportive wife and shouts out the wife like that's just the angle while miranda he does it all the time every

interview i think adam brody just did it at like the critics choice award with like layton meester yeah and that was like the big moment you know know? So that's just how it is. And you're married to Justin Bieber, literally the biggest, most famous person in the world. The original name for road was going to be Bieber Beauty. I'm dead. It's like you can't really... It's a good thing she changed that. That would have been crazy. I mean, probably

more popular, actually. Probably more people would buy Bieber. What was the trademark issue? That was the original thing, but then, yeah. Who had Bieber Beauty? Couldn't they buy that person? I'm sure they don't have as much money as Justin Bieber. I wonder what the issue was. But, so, yeah.

It was just so hot. And then it was very split, too. People were like, oh, yeah, it's so misogynistic to make it about her husband. But I don't, I don't know. And I really thought about it, too. A lot of people, but people kind of hate Hailey. They're like, girl, there's real issues in the world. Like, why are we talking about this?

But some people are like, no, that is really misogynistic. But I don't know. It wasn't even a headline. It was just like a quote. A little Instagram feed post. Yeah. And the first sentence of the caption is, Hailey Bieber had a lot to be thankful for upon accepting the Beauty Innovator of the Year Award at the Daily Front Row Fashion Los Angeles Awards. So the first sentence is like, you won an award.

Even if I won an Oscar, the first person I'd thank would be Moses. I'd be like, thank you for letting me become a star while you watch our kids and stuff. You know what I mean? That's kind of like the first person you'd thank because they hold the house down for you. For us performers and entertainers, our spouses hold the house down, you know? And that's why you have to thank them first because they're the ones, the backbone. Yeah, yeah.

You look so serious over there. Are you okay? Yeah, no. No, I was just thinking like, they go, like so many people talk about their relationship. So I think she wanted to say something about, positive about her relationship. But she didn't like,

but she did and then she didn't like when someone posted something positive about that but i don't get that part i think i think i think she just didn't like being criticized about it that i don't know maybe just maybe the angle is she thought she worked for this business don't bring just into it even though she brought justin yeah yeah it's so weird because i could be like i've worked on youtube for 20 years but i'm still gonna thank moses because it's like you know he's my husband that supports yeah i think people would doesn't take away from a 20 years of being on social media and depending on like the outlets like um like a people magazine or something would probably

probably put that trisha paytas thanks husband supportive husband moses huckman for you know making her dreams come true. And then like, I don't know, if it was like a Broadway newspaper or something, it would be like Trisha Paytas' record-breaking Broadway show. You know what I mean? Oh, I love the manifestations today. It's so good. So it depends on like if it's a business magazine, you know, that like is all about entrepreneurship. Yeah, like a Forbes.

Obviously, they'll be like Hailey Bieber made this much from whatever but has she ever done a girl boss shoot where she's like in a suit in front of like a conference table no Kylie Jenner has though really I love those shoots

when she was a billionaire when she became a billionaire she did like a a girl boss shoot I love a girl boss shoot me too it's so fun she should do that

you should do one at ET like in front of the conference I'm sure you guys have a conference room. If someone does an article about you, they should. With the Emmy? That'd be kind of fierce. Oh, hell yeah.

I forgot about that. If I won an award, I'd be doing girl boss shoots all day long. That's so fun. I can't believe you haven't done that. I should. I should. That would be kind of fun. It's so unserious to me, but I guess it is something.

That's fun, though. I love a girl boss. Hailey Bieber to me but I guess it is something. That's fun though. Yeah. I love a girl boss. Hailey Bieber gives me girl boss energy. She does. And I feel like she's girl bossing a little too close to the sun though.

I was like okay chill out a little bit. It was nice. It was a nice pose. Especially if you know the little like girl that like did it the 24 year old girl.

She's like love Hailey. I know I feel so bad for her. I haven't Have you talked to her? No not yet tomorrow I will see her and inquire about how she's doing

yeah I'll see how she's holding up do you bring a lunch to the office sometimes it's really depressing most of the time I have a lean cuisine

and you just feel like ooh okay that's so Y2K of you mac and cheese lean cuisine for 150 calories it's so depressing though

I'm walking back to Macy's with this like rubbery piece of chicken like warmed up in the office microwave it feels like

I don't know severance but maybe it kind of feels like severance I know they go in the elevator and like

the fluorescent lighting and stuff that's kind of what I feel like oh is that what you have going on there yeah it's like

just like so office-y do a tiktok day in the life of your office I want to see it. I think that'd be so fun. Warming up your chicken. So sad.

That's cute though. A little ASMR vlog of it. I love that. Do you – this is not a hot topic, but it's something that I keep thinking about. You watch The Office or no? A while ago. A while ago. You know the people on it?

Yeah. You know BJ Novak? Yes. He is dating a TikToker, Delaney Rowe, who I follow so much. I love her, by the way, love her. I think she's like, her TikToks are my favorite. We watch her all the time. I think she nails it so spot on.

She does recreations of indie girls in movies or daughters who just lost their mom and had to take care of their dads. She's so specific and it's always so good. And I love her. But everyone hates her on X. Everyone's like why no not her I hate this news he sucks like why are people so angry

I don't know I think I saw the same reactions to I was shocked by it because it seemed so random I think because he's mainstream and she's like I kind of think maybe that's what it is too like she but didn't do she date like a tick tocker or something or a YouTuber?

I don't know. Maybe. I feel like people have or maybe I'm getting like another person, someone else. I feel like that happens before. That happened before. It's worse for a girl influencer though for sure dating a traditional famous guy. Like Kylie and she is mainstream but still technically an influencer. Oh, right.

It just was so random. First of all, it was like it's literally all over my technically an influencer but oh right it just was so random first of all that it was like it's literally all over my accent i keep thinking about it but it's just also so random that people care because like not not even being a hater but like bj novak he just did the office right or like is he someone else that i don't know about he's done like right like he writes scripts or something i think like what um i think he just worked on the office his stuff recently okay he worked on the Mindy Project, which I love that. He worked on Community. Oh, what?

That was like 20 years ago. Lessons in Chemistry. Don't know it. Poker Face. Never heard of it. Vengeance. Nope. Yeah, well, that's the recent stuff.

I mean, Community's crazy because that was like 20 years ago. That was when Joe McHale was cool on the soup. So random. So people just love him and hate her i don't know if people even love him that much i know a lot of people um look at him sideways for like the relationship with mindy kaling in real life in real life in real life because i it's got all speculation but like people think that like he would never commit to mindy kaling that she was like oh she was like always in love with him.

And she has a child, and, like, she considers, like, BJ Novak almost like the father of her child or something, like, just because they were always so close. So I think that was, like, a big thing, too. I'm sure they're just not watching The Office and getting this mixed up. Like, I feel like that's the plot line of their characters.

No, even when she got a star on The Walk of Fame, like, BJ Novak was there to like pose with her. Like they're still together a lot like to this day. Okay. What's his age? Let me see. Delaney is 29. I just looked that.

I know he's at least, I guess, 20 years older. 49. Oof. Well, okay. I don't know. Yeah. She looks younger. I thought she was like 21. older. 49. Oof. Well, okay. I don't know. Yeah. She looks younger. I thought she was like 21.

Yeah. Okay. Frontal lobe has been developed. Yeah. She's at least an adult. He does look so much older. He does. He looks like 50 and she looks 20.

Yeah. But, all right. I wonder how that crossover even happened. Maybe Raya or something. I don't know. He's like, oh, that usually happens. I think that's how. Yeah. It happens. Like, Brittany Furlong dating tommy lee like or married i guess

now but yeah like maybe he she said tommy was like a fan of her and came up to her at pride so maybe vichy novak was a fan yeah delaney who isn't a fan were pretty good though i mean i love her skits it turned for sure because i first when people just discovered her TikToks, everyone was like, this is so spot on. So good. And everyone, you know, it flips really quickly. This is so cringe. Oh, how do you say that?

I love them. I love them. I think she's good in that. But now there are a lot of people who like, oh, it's cringe. Like these are so bad, blah, blah, blah. Oh, no. It is a pendulum. I think you just got to get old and then people just give you a pass.

That's how I think with me nowadays because things I do is cringe. But I think I'm just like so old. People are like – she's like a little like, I don't know, auntie or something. A little chubby auntie that we just – oh, look at her. Like truly, I'm not kidding. Like I would like squat down and talk to someone on stage and then I stood up and people applauded. They're like, oh my gosh, she got up. And I was like, damn. I was like, all my gosh, she got up. And I was like,

damn. I was like, all right. The bar is low. Love that part. The bar is low. I love it. That's the way to go.

getting up is tricky. I don't know if I'll make it up sometimes. And people scream for it. So I love being at the stage. I think you just gotta be older. I think when you're like a young,

cute 20 something, the chapels, everything, the Delaney Rose, I think you're just, people wanna just bring you down a little quicker, Richard Zegler. I think you're just people want to just bring it down a little quicker Richard Zegler but if you're a fat middle-aged woman they're like we love her she's so cute in camp it kind of reminds me of um the Chris Olsen drama that's

going on too I it did make me the same sentiment that you're saying um I related to it too because I was like damn thank god I am not like a hot fit like a Chris Olsen because what's his age I'm so confused with everyone's ages let me see

he has to be in his maybe almost 30 I think okay I would think that but then like he also seems 20 27 so yeah okay

drama with the boyfriend or different drama the ex-boyfriend drama the ex-boyfriend has been popping up on my FYP yes and this is confirmed to be the real ex-boyfriend drama. The ex-boyfriend has been popping up on my FYP. Yes. And this is confirmed

to be the real ex-boyfriends? Yes. Like there are photos. They did red carpets together. They did TikToks together. Really? Yeah. I follow him

and I've never seen this person. I don't follow Chris, but I researched at least to confirm. But yeah, they did Heidi Klum's Halloween party together. What were they dressed as?

What were they dressed as? What were they dressed as? I downloaded it. Ooh, so it's real. I think Chris Olsen was Ken from the Barbie movie, like with the fur coat, like the open shirt, you know? Is that one of his costumes? But yeah, his ex-boyfriend came out on TikTok. Oh, yeah. Chris Olsen was Ken, and then his boyfriend was Alan.

I feel like that sums up the relationship pretty well that's the vibe that i'm crazy i'm going as ken you're going that's crazy do you look like alan no he's like a really attractive guy that's my thought from the tiktok yeah they couldn't both be ken i know there's a million kens yeah and the whole thing is a little gay themed, all the Kens liking each other. So I was like, why did you not pick another hot Ken? That is so funny. Could have been Simu Lu or something. Yeah, right, somebody.

That's wild. Okay. I feel like that is so symbolic of, just from the TikTok, I've seen this kind of symbolic. He hates him. Chris Olsen hates him. It's like, what? That's crazy. Because, yeah, his ex-boyfriend came out with um a startling expose it really it seemed like it was going to be really serious at first but um patrick johnson

made um a tiktok too the first one was um to a sound i think it was for a party for you and um the text on it said when you realize your ex completely exploited you for relationship views and used your relationship for engagement yet you had feelings and treated him better than he's ever been treated before. Thank God I'm over

his attention seeking. Wow. That's a lot to put on it. There's a lot happening in that. I'm not trying to be a therapist here or psychoanalyzed but like there's a lot to say because also to say

like I'm so over that. No, you're not. You just made a TikTok about it. Second of all, as the best I've ever treated him it's like okay, well's a lot to say. Because also to say, like, I'm so over that. No, you're not. You just made a TikTok about it. Second of all, as the best I've ever treated him, it's like, okay, well, you don't know that. Like, you just know what he tells you about his exes, which whatever. That's a lot. That's the one I saw. And I was like, that's why he was like, is this a real ex?

Or is this because it just seemed like weird. It's like me talking about, like, an ex-boyfriend and being like, but I'm so over it. It's like, no, if you're over it, you should stop talking about it. But now he's made at least two I've seen about Chris Olsen. Yeah, he did two. He did two. You're not over it, sir. It's like, no, if you're over it, you should stop talking about it. But now he's made at least two I've seen about Chris Olsen. Yeah, he did two. You're not over it, sir. It's almost like your favorite song. I didn't want to write a song because I didn't want

anyone thinking I still love the... That is such a good song. Have I talked about this on the podcast or just in our... I don't know. Maybe three or four episodes. Really? And I didn't want to write a song because I didn't want anyone thinking. I still care.

I don't. But you still hit my phone up. Maybe Justin B. Rowe will perform at my LA Greek show. Could you imagine if he came out? That'd be everything. He said he's not leaving LA. Exactly. The paparazzi.

He said, I'm there. I'm going to run me out. I'll contact Haley to get to Justin. Just kidding. Okay. Back to Chris Olsen. Chris Olsen. Maybe he'll be a guest.

No. I don't know. Too controversial. Too controversial, perhaps. Could you imagine me saying that? Be like, he's too controversial for my show. Sorry. Okay.

So are people – what is the – what is the comments? Because I haven't seen – I'm very mixed because a lot of people – again, it's because I think especially in gay world, there's a very – there's always kind of a thing where like, that should be me almost because like Chris Olsen, very successful. But it's not like he is like super, super talented at one thing. You know, he's just very charming. He has a good personality. But David Dobrik minus hurting friends.

Yeah. Like it could have been anyone, but it was him, you know and i feel like oh there's almost like that could have been me because like what is so special about him so i think there's that kind of psychology you know and then also he's a little more threatening because he is like attractive you know he has a good body he's like so like cute he's very handsome this is kind of a double whammy but right um so there's some easy to pick on because he's like always shirtless he's cringe because like what are you doing here you're not famous like yeah he's an easy target an easy target yeah and he like this is also a deeper conversation but also he's like a little he's not like super

femme or anything but he has some effeminate things like you know he dances and he likes pop music and stuff yeah so i think there's also a little internalized homophobia there in my opinion um so it's kind of split where people have, again, are similar to Chappell, like looking for a reason to hate him. Because I saw that so much on Twitter. It's like, I'm so happy because I've been waiting for a reason to hate him. Or I knew that I always knew there was something terrible about him, blah, blah, blah. Waiting for it.

So there's that side. And then the other half is like, well, if you're saying, and this is to Patrick, the ex-boyfriend, it's a red flag if you're saying that you treated him better than anyone else because like how can kind of like you said yeah like say that yeah so that's like that's what you say about yourself i treated you better than anyone when people say that that's very like i don't know if this is the right term narcissistic or something where it's just like it is because yeah but if you listen to the sentence before that he says chris used him right no chris that's what he does he does social media and he does it very well and he's very big because of that you happen to be his

boyfriend he's still doing social media he didn't get with you together to get more views you're not bringing any views oh that is the narcissistic part yeah you have to be narcissistic to think like he dated me to get more views i'm like like, no, no, he's getting the views. He's not. I never heard of you. I wouldn't hear of you if you didn't date him. No, I'm just saying like scientifically, not shading him. You know, numbers.

No, but that's actually so true because people do say that. So you have to be narcissistic to think that. That's too much. That's actually deep. Yeah. You ate on that one, Moses. People always think I disagree with Moses on everything but that one I agree

kudos mama yeah that whole that's what I'm saying that whole thing kind of like brought me the wrong way I don't know that's like weird and I'm not a Chris Olsen stand by me I like Chris Olsen but he did do a response and Chris Olsen responded yeah well then the smoking gun from Patrick though was

because that was just like the first TikTok. The second one was a follow up. This one was, I think, supposed to be the smoking gun, the big expose. But he alleges Chris Olsen, the worst thing you could possibly be, a fake Swifty. I saw this one. This killed me. This kind of killed me because it was so dramatic. I had to go investigate and watch the original. I was like, wait, I need to see this.. This killed me. This kind of killed me because it was so dramatic. And then I had to go investigate and watch, like, the original.

I was like, wait, I need to see this. But that, okay. But then I'm kind of now on. Yeah, now I'm kind of on. What's his name? Patrick? Patrick. I was kind of like.

It was kind of crazy. Because, like, you can just. And you also know. I also know influencers like that, too. Yes. And, like, my mom, my sister, anyone could attest. Like, I. There's been influencers in my life that, like, whatever.

Like, we did a music video one time. And, like, just this person was so shut off the whole time like just was so miserable just was like sleeping and miserable just like wasn't talking to anyone and as soon as like another friend like another influencer friend came by all of a sudden on just like hey we're having a great time like this is crazy isn't like he was it was just like a switch on someone and it's the scariest thing and when I watched Chris Olsen's video it kind of gave me that same vibe I was like wait that's video, it kind of gave me that same vibe. I was like, wait, that's crazy.

Now, obviously, there's like no confirmation on this, right? That I was anyways, you could set up how it was. Well, Patrick said in the TikTok to kind of put into perspective how horrible my ex was. We had gone to the Taylor Swift Argentina show and we had left before the first time that Taylor had said Karma is the guy on the Chiefs. He said that they got back into their hotel room and he was scrolling through TikTok and saw the moment like go viral. And he asked Chris like,

hey, did you see that Taylor changed this lyric? And he claims that Chris looked up from his phone and said, I don't effing care. And then Chris locked himself in the bathroom and filmed the reaction TikTok that he posted of him like freaking out over um he's like I can't believe I witnessed Taylor singing Karma is the guy on the Chiefs and he was faux gagged allegedly faux gagged but um I just see it I just know so many influencers that do this and I can say I was

like a crazy mentally unwell influencer even I've never done something like this that's pretty wild that's crazy could you imagine someone tells you something like, I don't give a – And then just go and, like, create the TikTok based on that? Post that TikTok being faux gagged. It's so funny to me. Wait, I know. I wonder if that's real. That one is crazy. I totally believe it.

I could totally see it, too. And, like, again, the perspective to Chris's benefit. Like, you travel all the way to Argentina. You're probably a little jet lagged, right? That show is long. I am an authentic Swifty, obviously. You will never find any allegations

of being a fake Swifty here. Check the facts. Yes, my digital footprint speaks for itself. Credentials. It's out there. But even me at the Ares tour at the end, I left before it was over because I was so tired. I don't want to be stuck here with all these people. I left a song and a half early. So even for me, by the time I left, and I was like I was so tired I don't want to be stuck here with all these people I left like a song and a half early

so even for me by the time I left and I was cosplaying I was like I can't wait to get home and get out of this right but with the karma the cheese part does that come at the end of the show it's the very last song it's like the encore finale so it's very believable that you wouldn't miss that exactly especially it's like there's so many people

Chris I think has seen the show more than anyone honestly because he was going to every show and tiktok living it it did become like his big thing on tiktok being like the airstore groupie i guess so i totally believe it i totally see it i get why you would kind of be tired and be over it and honestly there has to be more right i feel like they're probably like already annoyed at each other or something, right? For him to be like, I don't effing care and, like, snap at Patrick. I don't know.

That's kind of mean. Yeah, maybe he's annoyed at Patrick. Maybe he's annoyed that he missed it. Maybe he's annoyed he didn't see it first. Like, there's probably, like, a ton of reasons for it. True. Maybe he was mad that he didn't get the shot himself. Yeah.

Like, he could have been there and didn't see it. He could have got the shot. Or he maybe could have seen it first. He didn't want his, like, boyfriend telling him stuff. Because, you know, like, if you're not in love with that person and they tell you something, like, I don't care why you're telling me this. He could have got the shot. Or he maybe could have seen it first. He didn't want his boyfriend telling him stuff because, you know, like if you're not in love with that person and they tell you something, like I don't care

why you're telling me this. Like they should know first. So there's probably a lot to it. There's probably a true story. Like if like ex-boyfriends talked about like my crazy stories, there's a lot of those out there. So like I feel bad for Chris

because like obviously like that just happens and this guy's just like ready to air out all the tea. But I do question why he wants to air out all this tea. Is this guy, oh he's an influencer kind of. Kind of, yeah. And also i can't even really clock him too because when i was younger

i was always like oh i'm gonna get calm i'm gonna expose you and i'm gonna expose you and it's not gonna be a bad thing because guess what you deserve it like i definitely had that when i was younger and it was so like girl what are you doing it's not that serious but at the time it felt so serious did you who did you did you? No, I really thought it was doing something. But like when I had a situation, she'd like break up with me and then I would post like really edgy. Like I thought it was me posing in front of a pink wall

thinking I was like serving face or whatever. And I would put the caption like something about like snakes, like no more snakes in my life. I thought it was serving. I was like, yeah, this will show them. Yeah. And then like, girl, no was serving. I was like, yeah. I don't know if that's an expose. Yeah, this will show them. Yeah. And then like, no one cares.

I would put snake emojis but then I would just like put their picture and their face up there. And I'd be like, and then back in the day between 2016 and 2017, I did have a little army

that would start putting the snake emojis all over their, is that a Taylor Swift thing? That's kind of Taylor Swift, right? Yeah, that's what people did to her. Well, they did that to people I would date.

They would put, like, snakes everywhere. And it was, like, it was so crazy. It was, like, a thing. It happened, like, with three people I dated. And I was, like, that's so weird. That's so funny. I felt like I had, like, so much, like, power. And I would.

You would feel like, I'm going to expose this person. Yeah. Especially, like, I'm, again, this, it's not like there's anything, like, actually serious as of right now, you know? Right, right. To make us, like, be concerned, you know? It all just kind of seems like just someone who

like it was ended badly and you kind of have a chip on your shoulder we've all been there he says he's over it but he's not I think he's got the chip

on his shoulder for sure it also must suck again almost like to have this bad breakup with someone and then see them like be

still like adored and stuff and if he's doing all these fake Swifty videos I'd be like are you i i couldn't blame him because i would do the same thing if i was dating chris and saw that he was

a fake swifty i'd be like girl what i'd be like 27 yes if i was younger yeah i have to say overall i might be team chris on this because he's kind of being messy nothing serious is happening yeah he seems bitter even though he says he's not and so it's kind of like is it really worth talking about like him being a fake swifty i mean it's kind of, it's not that deep. He seems bitter even though he says he's not. And so it's kind of like, is it really worth talking about like him being a fake Swifty? I mean, it's kind of funny. It's funny.

But I think it was more malicious than it was supposed to be funny. Because then Chris responds and he's like, oh, you can't convince people who already hate you to like you. Yes.

And he posted to his stories, I will fight the fake Swifty allegations in court of law. Put me under oath and throw me in jail if I am guilty. God damn it. I don't think he's a fake Swifty. I think he of law. Put me under oath and throw me in jail if I am guilty. God damn it. I don't think he's a fake Swifty.

I think he likes Taylor and I think he plays it up for clout. And honestly, I can say very confidently a lot of people have done that throughout the Eros tour. So, I mean, if it's a crime, a lot of people are going down with that. I got to start learning some Taylor Swift songs to finish off the Eros tour. I think I'm really taking over for her because we also have groupies

at the Aris of Trish. We have people who have come to seven. We have a couple Chris Olsons and I love it. I mean, there's people who have come to, I think there's someone

who came to eight shows so far. I think we've had someone come to seven. Mary Chris Olson. Yeah. I love it. They're there every show. Hyped.

So excited for it. Same show all the time and I love that. The most recent we went to the Aris So excited for it. Same show all the time. And I love that. The most recent one was the Errors Tour. The Errors of Trish. The Errors of Taylor. I think Errors is great because there's just something for everyone. Like there's always someone who resonates with a different era.

And they cosplay Taylor at the Errors Tour? Yeah. Well, look at me. I was that. I was that doll. That's right. You were that. Oh, yeah.

People cosplay me cosplaying people at my show. Yes, I love it. It's so cool. It's like. What's your name? My name is Josie. Okay, next. Troy.

There's so many. Oh, my God. There's so many people who cosplay and just like so unique and just. And you're talking about people that, you know, that work at the theaters. They don't understand. So somebody came full dress like they work at Domino's and they thought that they came straight from work oh my god we had so many dominoes in chicago yeah they're like what did they say did you see the tiktok on it yeah they said like you know people are asking me if i came straight from work there's so many dominoes

employees in the audience there's so many mcdonald's people it's so funny my favorite visual of that show you had the yellow dress and then you wrapped yourself with the rainbow flag. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That rainbow flag's in my suitcase. And then somebody said it looked like your rainbow Birkin was dancing on stage. That is crazy.

I saw that one too. And I was like, I didn't even intend that, but I did because I had this little yellow big bird outfit on. And then someone gave me this rainbow flag. So I wore it for the show. And I was like, I do look like a rainbow Birkin. Rainbow Birkins are a popular cosplay. We probably have about at least 20 rainbow Birkins each show.

Definitely shallow. Troy Bolton is the number one. Troy Bolton. We have like 40 Troy Boltons at every show. It's wild. We have a couple of Jesuses, a couple of Moseses. We did have an Oscar, I think, this weekend. Yeah.

I think they were dressed as you in episode one of Just Trish. That Oppenheimer. Oh, my God. That is so funny dressed as you in episode one of Just Trish. That Oppenheimer. Oh my God, that is so funny. Did you see that one? Was it on TikTok? Well, what I saw was somebody saying that they wanted to clarify it because they think you didn't understand

what they meant by it. That they were Oscar. That they were Oscar. No, I knew. I mean, they were in a black hat and black tie. I got it. AKA how Moses got Oscar. Oskenheimer.

Oskenheimer. Ooh, that's a good one. That's good. Moses just thought you dressed like that all the time. He's like, he has a cool style. That's a first time. I liked it. I liked it too.

You were down for the cosplay from the beginning. I really do love the heiress. I think I might continue mine for a couple years. I would love to do the heiress of Trisha. I'm very tailored to. Yeah, we thought it was over and then just kept going. It's addicting. Just keep going.

Yeah, maybe Japan watch out watch out Japan yeah the situation I guess it's funny I guess and if he's taking it funny too I guess it's all just silly

I think I went back to this morning because I was going to go download like the TikToks from Patrick he did delete them so I wonder yeah I wonder if they talked

or something like in DMs or whatever especially when you're like not that person and you put them out. Then you kind of start feeling weird about it. Yeah, and it gets more attention than maybe you anticipated. And also just at the end of the day, just like pretty unserious. Like very typical ex behavior, you know?

Yeah. They're cute. He pulls some cute guys. Yeah. Ian's so cute. I still follow him. He's a little like theater boy and I love it. He's very handsome. At least he has Noah. Ian's so cute. I still follow him. He's a little like theater boy and I love it. He's very handsome.

At least he has Noah. Maybe he might have cheated. I don't know. Oh. I think Chris Olsen said that. I don't know. Maybe not. I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff.

I just love the beautiful gays in the world, you know. I like ugly gays too. I like all of them. Being a beautiful gay, my heart goes out to you. It is, it must be a lot of pressure, you know. Oh, I thought you were going to say being a beautiful gay. Oh, no. But you are. You're a beautiful gay, my heart goes out to you. It is – it must be a lot of pressure. Oh, I thought you were going to say being a beautiful gay. Oh, no. But you are. You're one of the beautiful gays.

That genre of gay, it's like very – I mean, like you said with like, you know, all the famous TikTokers who are just like – Alex Earle. Yeah, all the Alex Earles of the world. It's like – it's vicious out there. It's definitely vicious. I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine that world at all.

Let me just stay in my bubble. What's your category? I think campy, like silly, almost like court jester gay. You know, I'm just silly. Court jester's crazy. You know, here for a good time. I would say you're like the gay best friend everybody wants. Okay, I'll take that.

Yeah. Because you're like a Gordo to a Lizzie McGuire. Love, yes. Right? Yeah, like that supporting character. But you're a main character. Let me think of a main character. I don't know. I love being a supporting character. Do you? I feel like you're a main character energy. You're a main character energy. No.

I'm like bouncing off someone, but I could never have like, you know, a one woman show or anything. I think you could. But no, I couldn't. I could bounce. If it was an Oscar and Ted Nivison show, yes, because I could bounce off Ted. I like bouncing off people too. Yeah. I do like bouncing. I mean, it was a little easier.

I mean, to have to like a podcast. Like who does podcasts by themselves where they just talk to themselves? Like a Brittany Broski, Antonio Garza. Oh my God. Like no. I tried. Look up Dish with Trish. It was just me talking about nothing for 30 minutes.

I was trying to be views over here with a 42-minute podcast. It was, that was rough. That was, that's, even Moses, like a month into it, I'm like, do you want to be on my podcast? Because I had no time to talk about it. You need some guests, yeah. You guys should go watch the first episode. I wonder if that's still up, our first episode of Dish with Trish.

Some of them are, some are not. It's awful. What do you mean? It was bad, right? It was so bad. We're just getting to know each other. Oh my God, it's so awkward. Just so.

I can only imagine because even the Trisha Tries or what were your series that you did together? And you guys were engaged at that point, but still awkward on camera. Very awkward. This was even worse because we didn't like each other at this point. And I'm just like, so how about this water? And then Moses tries to be so serious and philosophical. And I'm like, oh, God.

It was weird. But you dressed up. I remember you came to my house and dressed up. You took it very seriously. You're like, I'm like okay like it just was like it was weird be dressed up I remember you came to my house and dressed up you took it very seriously you're like I'm a podcast guest today it was

I took it very seriously okay I was very honored oh well well speaking of tours I need desperately need your thoughts on

Katy Perry's Lifetimes Tour love it I did the dance this week during my bubbly it is so Trish coded I obsessed it is the most Trisha thing I've ever seen on Katy Perry's Lifetime's tour. I did the dance this week during my bubbly. It is so Trish coded. I obsessed.

It is the most Trisha thing I've ever seen. I, first of all, love these choreographers. It's the same choreographer that did Work for Britney. The like, work. Oh, love. Work, yeah.

I forgot their name. It's like Squirrely TV or something I think is their name. They're like Squirrely or something. Shout out Cedric. He told me that in the airport this morning because we were talking

about the choreo. I do very little choreo on my show, but once I saw this choreo, I'm like, I'm learning all of this whole eight counts. I'll do it for you guys right now. If you're listening, Cedric. He told me that in the airport this morning because we were talking about the choreo. I do very little choreo on my show, but once I saw this choreo, I'm like, I'm learning all of this whole eight counts. I'll do it for you guys right now. If you're listening, here we go. What song is it that she does it to?

I think it was E.T., right? Oh, really? And I think at least a few of those counts they copied from King Tut. She literally does like a few. No. No, because these are the moves. There's no King Tut here. You go down up side

side this is the basketball basketball basketball basketball alligator alligator alligator alligator chomp chomp chomp chomp baby baby baby baby turn around but but but, up, down, death drop. Oh, yes. Okay. Let me hear what song. From the side to side. She does it like you, the way she's like. I like that you think that. What song is? It's like an interstitial.

It's not even one of her songs. It's like a Vogue, like a ballroom Vogue-ing kind of moment. Music breakdown. Yeah. I mean, if Jimmy Kimmel, like just that part side by side you'll see it it's exactly king tut he's like he is king tut is boom boom boom i would love to take credit for it but maybe this one is i would say the facial expressions are also very you though it's like oh okay yeah i love her facial expressions are also very you, though. It's like. Oh, okay. I'll take it. I love her. The facial expressions are very you.

After she's on the floor and she lifts her head up. I did that, too. Because she has those big eyes. She's like. She's funny. I love it. I love that dance. That was my favorite thing this whole weekend.

That made me so happy. It's so good. I don't know why people. Like, the whole thing is clearly, like, unserious. Like, her fighting people with sticks. Like, I don't think there's anyone that thinks she's thinks she's being good on stage she's not a dancer she's not a singer see i feel for her too i do feel for her too because um and honestly swifties especially should know because another one like people will take clips of taylor dancing who also is not a

dancer kind of very unserious when she like twirls and she makes little like cute she sticks her tongue out she makes little faces she's not trying to be a good dancer yes she's doing some choreo but she's not like a Beyonce yeah yeah Tate McRae you know like I think it's kind of similar yes where it's just like it's it is dancing it is moving but it's campy it's And that's always been Katie's thing too. Since like. Yeah. Teenage Dream. It's always been kind of like. Just unserious.

So it is weird that people like. Wow. She is just really falling. I mean. This has always kind of been her shtick. So. I saw one of her giant. Like dancing in a giant toilet bowl.

And I was like. What the hell is this? That was from her Vegas residency. Yeah. This is weird. But. That's why I never really liked her before. Like I wasn't a fan.

I don't think I didn't like her. I wasn't a fan. I was like, she's weird. It's like very, it's like very, very, very tongue in cheek, very camp, like lowbrow kind of humor vibes, which isn't bad. That's just her aesthetic. She's never been like a. No, I love it. She's never been like, you know, a highbrow pop girl, you know.

Right. She's always been very campy. So it's weird that everyone kind of turned on her so so fiercely i love it um i'm gonna go i can't wait to see her lifetimes tour the whole thing is like ai themed um that's an odd choice it is i well she has a song called like artificial so i guess she took that and really ran with it but it's like something that everyone hates i know honestly and then this is the one thing we'll all criticize her though because allegedly there's like this one segment and it is to the song artificial where like all the stage graphics and like video is like generative ai and it does look like ai and if it really is as an artist yeah

like you would you would hate if like someone released an ai album of your voice to random songs and like profited off it, you know? So like as an artist, you should hire other artists to at least make this graphics. Like Trixie Mattel. Yeah, you have the budget. Yeah. Trixie Mattel for Trixie Cosmetics. She did like one of the AI trends.

You know, everyone did like those action figure packs or whatever where like Trixie Mattel did that, but she hired an artist to actually make it. So she still did the trend, but like, you know, list of printing artists. So she really went above and beyond for that. It's not Trixie. She really is. Trixie Mattel is from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. That's what I learned.

I was like, who's famous from here? They're like Trixie. I was like, can I show you? I was going through my photos. No, I was just going through my photos on my camera roll. We'll get back to Katie in a second. But before I forget, I have to show you this because I thought it was a photo of me and you.

And then it was Trixie Mattel. No! Where'd you meet her? Back in, it was 2017 or something. Oh, my God. Wait. When I interviewed her. Wait, you look so different.

I know. Your face looks different. You're so skinny there, but, like, your face looks different. Well, I was definitely face-tuned, because I was definitely really, I definitely erased my double chin. Just, like, it was all, you know. Oh, my God. That doesn't look like me and you, though.

Right? Trixie is me. I was scrolling fast, and I was like, I thought that Oh my God, that doesn't look like me and you though. Right? I was scrolling fast and I was like, I thought that was us. I love her. She never replies to my DMs. I love her so much. She had a gay bar called in Milwaukee. Yeah. It closed down.

And this, I think this was our first interview with her right off of season seven. Because we, we got on her quick. We were like, we knew she was a star yeah back she didn't even have pr then she just texted us she's like hey i'm here and then shut up that's so cool yeah i love her she's such a queen i love her so much yeah but they really be playing all the shows too they're on tour everyone's on tour everybody is on tour which is crazy but i also love it um but yeah with katie's tour people are really, really going hard on her. So funny.

Well, yeah. There's some stuff where the criticism is deserved for sure. But I think it's one of those things where the hate train is just kind of getting off the rails. I'll give Val criticism on this tour because I want to see it and I love it. And you guys know. But when she sings Woman's World, which is the music video I was in, all men on stage dancing with her. Oh, good point. All 12 men.

I was like, that is the craziest thing ever. You're right. was in uh all men on stage dancing with her oh good point i was like that is the craziest thing ever she does have all men dancing me doing hot girl christmas and just have like four hot gay guys behind me it's like not with hot girl christmas there should be girls on stage you know what i mean there's not one woman to be seen it's a woman's world she's the woman it's her world she's the the only woman. She is. That is wild. That is wild. There was another speculation that maybe, like, after coming back from space, like, a lot of her, like, design for the show was that. Like, you know, she planned to come down from, like, the spaceship to wear the blue suit, all those things.

And because of the backlash she got, like, last minute, they just scraped all that out and made new bits and new parts so i like it because it looks like she didn't even go to rehearsal which is very good that's what i'm saying like there's a lot of things that were new and different from maybe what they planned to happen because it would make sense for her to be like coming down in the spaceship and wearing the suit she was in space and you know because they thought this will be celebrated and I should get Katy Perry

to come to the show on May 4th to do California Girls because we're in California oh gee I don't know where she might still be she's probably done

she was at Lady Gaga the other night she's probably on a little break yeah she did you're right she did like three nights in Mexico and I think she's done

in Mexico City. Ooh, should I reach out? I'll DM her. Yeah, why not? It's either Katy Perry, Walton Goggins, or maybe Terry Joe. We'll see. Or nobody. See who's available.

Of those three, I don't know. Probably Terry Joe's the most busy. Honestly, T. Working on her show. Terry Joe has been out. Keelan was out at Coach was at coachella taco bell sponsorships yeah keylon's been busy but lucky oh my god everyone's just been out about alex warren again at stage coach this weekend oh yeah he was at coachella with ed sheer and then he performs

a jelly roll at stage something is up and then guess who we saw backstage he ran into lana del rey and lana del rey ran up to alex warren singing his song to him what is going on i want to change off and get on this conspiracy there's no way how is he blowing up how is he everywhere look the songs are great we know it but like what i guess you have to start doing a million tiktoks to your sound maybe that's it honestly you drop a music video you say hey it's here and there's like you you gotta really like start promoting it like the alex warren style yeah that's crazy because something will give but you just got to start you know putting it out there more i think he's just everywhere that's just so weird all of a sudden he's booked booked and busy i am intrigued he must have a really good manager really good

agent really good publicist oh i think he probably signed he probably signed with a record company and you know connections it is so funny see I will I guess Lana Del Rey just loves an influencer though remember she was gagged

Alicia and Remy actually should they are iconic but not even just Alicia and Remy they loved Ali talk about sidekick

gay sidekick over there he was he was there's like I love Ali too I'm like okay she screamed oh my god this video were we doing the podcast yes we were we were doing the podcast when this happened gay sidekick over there he was he was there's like i love ollie too like okay she screamed oh

my god this video i were we doing the podcast yes we were we were doing the podcast when this happened i remember she was ollie and like screamed that's so crazy i love it not that we don't love an ollie but like it's not that you know she's really in it though like yeah she's not a fake not the chris olsen she's really uh she's a real one a real. It's like if someone comes to the show and they see Jimmy and they're like, Jimmy! Yes, they're a real one. Not for clout. Jimmy is really getting a lot of love. I had to text him and be like, I feel like I need to give you a raise or something because

everyone is telling me that your editing is just the best thing. He snapped. Every comment in the last episode was just, Jimmy's editing is so funny. And I was like, what did he do? He is so funny. And we were texting because he was trying to buy a Switch 2 to the new like nintendo console as he was trying to edit and he was going through it shout out jimmy he was like he was trying three different sites his credit card got frozen his orders were getting canceled and this was all while he was editing

so he's like literally did a complete all-nighter because he was juggling uh the editing and getting the switch why did he not do the switch first and then edit or vice versa because he like you had to like get in a queue and then like you were waiting in line to buy it you know so he was he was juggling it and then by the time he got the switch he was like he said it was crunch time he just took his uh creative um instincts and ran with it he didn't even second guess it and look i love that it paid off jimmy i want to get him tickets lady gaga jimmy let me know what date you want to go to because i know it's just like may 1st they go on sale but there's already queues for it and you have to get special codes i'll talk to c geek we'll get you a front row meeting yes i got you don't worry jimmy

whatever it takes so let me know what date you want to go to we're going to send you all of them honestly because everyone's just like kind of gagged for his editing yes he's really killing it do they have editor awards at the streamies I don't know if they do at the streamies

I feel like they do at the webbies and those just happen but maybe we should do a campaign at least the grinder at the end of the year maybe there's a best editing

and the grinder awards I love it just put him up in a pair of shorts to show what our editor looks like he'll beat everybody else. Like, actually, that guy.

The four-year considerations. He'll probably do a Walton Goggins shoot. He loves a short short. Probably, yeah. Pointed look. I love it. There'll be no awards for that. Sexy as husband. Me and Speedos. You and Speedos. Jennifer Koolidgeidge said gay men

and women are superior I've been saying that I have been saying that and people use the clock me they're like you can't say that because that's like separating gays

from straights but I was like I've always said they're superior I don't like straights and she says and everyone's like oh well

queen yeah where was she at she's randomly it's also me just to randomly say that sometimes I just anywhere I'll be like

love gays where was she I don't know I only saw that quote and I saw that you shared it just imagine her in a fast food restaurant ordering food

and saying it you know honestly gay guys are superior gay women are superior they kind of are you want fries for that what

that's a conversation I made oh you're saying she had a best food thing oh I see she's like you know I haven't met one straight man

at any of these shows and I love it I guess sometimes the boyfriends but but you don't meet them because they're sitting yeah the only person

that sits there that is so true if you're sitting I know interesting a lot of girls watch us I mean I knew that but like The only person that sits down. That is so true. If you're sitting, I know. Interesting. A lot of girls watch us. I mean, I knew that, but like I would say I have like a big girl audience.

I love it. There's so many cute girls. Yeah. I feel like like even my like someone asked for my analytics or whatever to do like an ad or whatever. And I had never looked at them before. And then I was like, like damn it is like 85 percent girls i was like that's where it's at truly my shows i was i'm always a little shook by it yeah i don't know if you'll be watching me but yeah we are very like girly pop i love that

because i think most of my life the first half of my life i feel like i was just like oh my god girls they're just so much on my i hate girls i. I like guys. I'm more of a guys girl. And I love now that we're just immersed in girl world. Yes. It's a better place to be. Much better place. I really think I thrived. I think it's so hard like to become like a girl's – like I think girls that are like pick me is – I think it's like insecurity maybe.

I don't know what it is. I think when I got like married, I felt like out of the race, out of the competition. Like I felt like I was always competing for men. Male attention. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I think when I got like married I felt like out of the race. Out of the competition. Like I felt like I was always competing for men. Male attention. Yeah. I don't know. Weird. Because I remember even being in men oriented groups like Vlogspot and being like I didn't like the girls in the group because I was like they're taking my attention. I don't know. I think that's like I don't know. I don't know how you fix

that though. How do you resolve that aside from meeting somebody? Like how do you resolve that without having to find someone? I think you just grow up. I genuinely think it kind of comes with age. It took me 32 years. I was 30 years old. Faster than others. I just tell people like, oh my – so many girl friendships come together.

Like girls that have been best friends with the girls since they were like first grade. I'm like, oh my God, keep the girl on girl friendship because they're like so happy. They'll be like, she's the love of my life. I love her so much. Like she's everything. And I'm like, keep that energy. I think that's like a good energy to have. I think I's the love of my life. I love her so much. She's everything. And I'm like, keep that energy. I think that's like a good energy to have. I think I was lacking that in my life.

I was lacking male attention but also female attention and I just had no attention. And then did anything to get – Get attention. From anywhere, yeah. That is so true. It's so sad. I love the girls. Anyways, better than men.

Ironically, in not girly pop news news actually kind of is in a workaround way but i am obsessed with um a football story all of a sudden with bill belichick's girlfriend i am so fascinated by this um they did an interview on cbs sunday morning and first of all this man he um was the former coach of the new eng Patriots, six-time Super Bowl champion. Now he's a coach at University of North Carolina, whatever. Anyway. How old is he? He is 50.

No, he's older, I think. I think he's like 70. Yeah. Because, no. Yeah. He's 74, and Jordan, his girlfriend, is 24. It's a 50-year age gap. Disgusting.

I hate it. What? It is 24. It's a 50-year age gap. Disgusting. I hate it. What? It is crazy. But this Jordan Hudson, I am so intrigued by her because she is somehow, again, girl bossing very close to the sun. Is she a girl boss? I think she is. Really? Yes.

What does she do? So he did this interview on CBS Sunday Morning. And it's supposed to be about his career. He supposed to be working like on a new documentary and stuff and um the interviewer asked about his girlfriend like oh like where did you guys meet and then she jumped in she's like he's not talking about that and she's like sitting in the background yes how did you guys meet not talking about this no. And I guess they chose to air this and they said she was interrupting the interview so many times that they had no choice but to include one of the times that she was like butting in and stopping. And she has a whole thing like. Obviously. Yes.

I'm so curious. And then she's like standing sitting in the background. You could see her face. She just looks so like. Hook eyes. Yeah. Everyone's like I feel like this is elder abuse. Like, you know. face she just looks so like hawkeye yeah everyone's like i feel like this is elder abuse like

yeah and then that old 74 year old man is sitting there in a distressed vintage like football sweatshirt with a little hole in the collar no t-shirt underneath i know she picked that out for him a little abercrombie moment yes literally i'm like what is going on here people needs to have like a proper sweatshirt on you know like maybe some land's end or something like why is people in this distressed vintage sweatshirt grandpa like people people i like it though people um well i don't really feel bad for him because he's 74 dating a 24 no i don't really feel bad for him either like out of it i mean he doesn't have like dementia where he has like an assistant so it's like you, you know, that's what you get for a date. But you said she's a girl boss.

Does she have a job? Like, does she have a company? Guess what she does now. She is, she just made herself a position working for Bill Belichick. She includes herself in, like, the football plays and stuff. Like, she grabs a headset and, like, works up the plays at the college. He made

everyone who works for him, like, CC her on all like the social media strategy for anything involving like the football teams, the social media accounts or his social media accounts. She has a cosmetology degree and then she also has a degree in philosophy. I really looked into her because I was like maybe she has like a PR experience or something. No, she doesn't. So she really is just doing this stuff on the fly. Girl boss though.

She has like a lot of jobs. She is a girl boss. We love. And like a lot of the football fans, I don't know what y'all are called, but people were like, why is this girl on the field? Like she has nothing to do with football. She has never seen a football game before getting with Bill Belichick. She's gone on the record and said this.

I mean, kind of smart. She is making it work. She's giving Hawk Tua meets Logan Paul meets football. It's very interesting. Like, it's normally in this kind of, like, age gap relationship, I'd feel kind of bad for the girl, but she is very adamant that she is in charge. Okay. He's like, anything for wifey over here.

They're engaged, right? Yes. And anytime anyone like criticizes her, she like shuts them down and claps back. And how long they've been together? So they met in 2021, I believe. Let me make sure. Four years.

You could say if she doesn't want to disclose how they met. Maybe they met when she was young. They met four years ago. The gag is they met on a flight and he was still with his partner of

16 years when they first met on this flight. They like sat next to each other on a flight. That's crazy. Yes. And then – And they just started a conversation. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And then in 2023, Bill Belichick split from his partner of 16 years and then got with this girl, Jordan.

Oh, no. So – Well, he must have saw something in her. Maybe she's helping him with the plays. Is he still winning? Is his college team going to the Orange Bowl? I think it's college. I'm dead.

Maybe you're right. She's upping a social media game. She did a little – very Trisha Cota. They did a photo shoot where she was a mermaid at the beach and he was the fisherman fishing her out of the ocean. Okay. So he's cosplaying with her. I love it. He's cosplaying with her he's into it then they're doing um like yoga on the beach and he's like holding her up he's like

putting his legs up and she's doing poses on top of them i love that so he's strong athletic maybe they just met like i threw like a friend they don't talk to anymore or something like we don't talk about it i think they met on that yeah i think probably because he was cheating oh because he was cheating so they don't want to disclose my head was thinking like an escort service but a plane seems that's the first thing i thought too i was like oh because there was a weird way that they met so maybe a sugar baby website or something but then yeah i read they originally met we met on a plane you don't have to say the year the timeline to say yeah year, the timeline. Just say we met on a plane.

And also, I think maybe she shouldn't be a publicist because if you're interrupting the interview like 20 times, then, girl, you're not doing a great job. That gives somebody else, too. I feel like someone else did that a lot with somebody. I guess maybe Hilaria or maybe Alec Baldwin. Oh, we've seen. Whenever they're getting interviewed, someone interrupts.

Yeah. But he stopped her. He was getting interviewed by someone once, and she was also interrupting on the street. Well, because he was like on the street getting heckled. Yeah. But he stopped her. He was getting interviewed by someone once and she was also interrupting on the street. Well, because he was like on the street getting heckled. Right.

And then she kept coming in. He's like, can you stop? They just always yell at each other. It's kind of a love language. I know. I, you know. They're passionate.

Yeah. Stop talking. So you're pro Jordan and Bill Belichick despite their 50-year age gap? I think, I think he deserves. That's how someone like us. Yeah.

If you're the old man going for this young girl, you deserve to be taking her on the block. Unless he was like mentally like not there. But I think he's mentally there. He's obviously lifting her up. He's kicking his feet with her, you know, cosplaying. He's in it. So what do you know? That's what his deal is maybe it's a kink maybe he loves getting used i don't know i don't know what it is i support it i guess i hate the age gap but he deserves her just running around with him you know yeah it is

it's again one of those weird gray areas because obviously she's very much in control she's an adult you know so but when does it become elder abuse like what age true because he's 74 i guess maybe when they have some kind of cognitive issue where you can see that they are just like not in control, then it's like becomes immoral maybe. Yeah. But if he's still working and no one is saying like, oh, he's, you know, losing cognitive functions, then, right? Any statements from any of them since the interview?

She's just been tweeting this morning. She's very unfazed. She's like, she's keeping it moving. I love it. She's like, I think the tweet that she retweeted was all I saw was a supportive partner

wanting the best for her husband or for her boyfriend or whatever. I love it. Work. She's, she knows how to spin.

Maybe she has to be. That's what I'm saying. Maybe she's smart. She's just, maybe that philosophy degree is, you know, pretty fierce. She has a degree.

Yeah. Smart. I'm here for it. Weird, creepy, but – It's very weird. She's definitely girl boss. So girl boss pants are on with her. I haven't seen them for a while and I'm just like I don't really get this.

I've seen them. I've never really thought about them because I'm like I don't care. It's football. But then something about this interview really like got a chokehold on me. I'm like, who is this diva? Like, what is it? You liked it. You were into it.

I was not into it. I was just like, almost like Ted Nivison with me. Like, I'm just like, how is this working? Like, what is. Do an interview with her. I don't know. Reach out on behalf of GLAAD magazine that you don't work for. I'm doing all these fake interviews.

Jeff is kind of ghosted GLAAD. I haven't heard back after we agreed. So Jeff- You probably saw the episode. He just disappears a lot. He does. He does come and go. I think he went back off the grid.

But when he's ready to support the LGBT, GLAAD is here. Just LGBT, not the Q, A plus. I guess we'll throw the Q. Yeah, the Q. A? Yeah. We'll cover Q. A. Yeah. We'll cover all the bases. About the plus.

You know what? I'll throw the plus in there too. We'll cover every, all the whole entire spectrum. I love it. Well, speaking of LGBTQIA plus, the Jojo Siwa, I feel like this is the big one to end on. Oh yeah. Another story that's really gripped me. I'm very fascinated by this whole saga. And every week there's been a new development. It's over now, which is sad. But yeah. Another story that's really gripped me. I'm very fascinated by this whole saga.

And every week there's been a new development. It's over now, which is sad. But yeah. Or is it? Is it just beginning? I know. Now she's on the press tour after Celebrity Big Brother. Yeah.

That's true. I've been watching all their interviews. What do you think of the JoJo-Kath breakup and the Chris Hughes friendship? Team JoJo on this one. What are you? Just finish off. Okay. I am very –

I'm in a gray area. Okay. I'm in a gray area because I do feel for Kath. I do feel for Kath. A 24-hour flight to go support JoJo at the finale and then to get dumped is like brutal. Kath is 27. JoJo, 21.

Yeah. What do we always say, everybody? Let's leave the 21-year-olds alone, okay? Like, it's, the age gap doesn't seem crazy, but it's crazy. As 21 and 27, it's crazy. What do you expect? You're dating a 21-year-old.

They're evolving. They're changing. They're growing. They're discovering themselves. Especially JoJo, who's had a very public track record of not having consistent relationships and all this stuff happening. Like obviously she's going through stuff. Not saying she's confused, but she's discovering herself, whatever you want to call it. So when you're a 27 year old and a 21 year old is like changing, growing, discovering, oh, I don't like this anymore. This isn't for me. You can't be mad at that person because they're 21. So if you want like a serious relationship,

like they were talking about getting married and stuff like that, it's not with a 21 year old. Because guess what? 21 year olds are always changing. They're always discovering something new because everything's happening. All the emotions are happening at 21. It's very rare you find a 21 year old like mentally stable and prepared for a committed relationship. I think that's what I think. I don't know. I think it's like Jojo discovered something in the house. She even said, Jojo even was like, I didn't want this. I wasn't expecting this. This is like breakup or whatever.

But she discovered something else about herself. She's no longer lesbian. She's like, I'm queer. Maybe I have feelings for a different gender. Like, that's it. Honestly, I respect it. At least it's like, well, you found that out through the house. It sucks.

But you're 21. If I'm dating a 21-year-old like Kristen Cavallari did, like you just got to expect them to be 21-year-olds. Just like changing their minds. Unless you're Jordan and Bill Belichick because I think she was like 21 when I was – That's what I'm saying. Whatever happens to him, he's deserving of it. You're dating the 24-year-old. So what you should know better.

That's funny. You know what I mean? I never blame the person under 25 because they're like a child mentality. You know what I mean? No, I don't think JoJo is like a villain or anything either. I think it just sucks, though, regardless, like to do a 24-hour flight. And then also like for three weeks, you're uncertain of what you're seeing. Like is this just for the show?

You have like the fans like kind of taunting you and tormenting you be like look look what jojo's doing she's in love with chris who is 32 so it's also not of course no it's weird too yeah but i always said this about jojo i feel like she has this like trauma that she doesn't think is trauma that she hasn't worked through as like a child you know what i mean so she's gravitating towards these people like her friendship with colleen and something like all these things like in this friendship with this guy her platonic soulmate chris use whatever it's like she obviously has a lot of issues that she's not like resolving i mean it's very just clear to see and i feel for jojo so it's also like these people who see that she has these issues like a child star 21 year old has all these like weird relationships and

friendships with adults it's like well then don't get in a relationship with that person yeah it's embarrassing it's embarrassing of course but it's also like you're dating a 21 year old so no i i feel for kath in the way that it played out but i think that it all like makes like you said it makes sense why she's 21 some and also i think has been very stunted the way i looked at at it is like Celebrity Big Brother was almost like the college experience, even though it was three weeks. But it's literally like the first time JoJo has been like put in a social setting, locked away from every other outside external influence and was just like around other people and couldn't have anyone else like in her ear about what she should do.

And she didn't have like social media to also like influence her decisions. That's so true. So in this three weeks, it was like all of a sudden she's in that college phase of like discovering herself and figuring out what she wants, what she doesn't want. And that is a result, you know,

like she just didn't, cause some 21 year olds are done. Like they finished college. They're like adults or whatever. Jojo just never had that. Like she's always thought she was an adult since she was nine years old. But she just never had the true like real adult experience. That is so true.

Yeah. And like you said, that's a big thing too is like not being influenced by – Her mom or – Her mom or just social media or anything because it's – that does make such a big difference. Because she's someone who you can tell is just heavily influenced. And like so am I. Like that's why I kind of relate to her. Because it's, like, I can tell she's so influenced.

Remember when she went through that, like, G Flip era? Yes. Like, becomes this person. And so, like, I feel like she gravitates to, like, her girlfriends. And all of a sudden it's, like, we're in love. We're married. I'm going to move to Australia. I'm going to do this.

Like, she becomes so influenced and so, like, whoever she's around. So, like, being in this house and stuff like that, it's, like, not to say she's, like, and maybe she is influenced by Chris or whatever. But just discovering herself without a phone without people around her and she's like wait who am i you know and it's like a question i feel like she like doesn't know but like trying to figure out i don't know and i yeah and it's like yeah of course it's embarrassing but if i was kath watching i mean obviously it's like okay i see something happening here and it's like yeah it's not like moses going on the show like a 45 year old man being like you know like what

do you mean you're discovering yourself you're 45 you know what i mean like you guys don't i don't like the criticism is not about her discovering herself it's just plain simple like cheating basically like there's a difference yeah you can discover you can change you can i think the idea of like whether it's emotional cheating or maybe there was physical but the the relationship with chris was crossed certain lines because otherwise nobody would ever bring up anything so i don't think it has to do with her but she cheated how it's considered emotional cheating is what kath is saying and like a lot of people have weighed in on it thinking it was considered emotional cheating is what kath is saying and like a lot of people have weighed in on it thinking it was like emotional cheating because she jojo did get so

like physically close and intimate the massages the kisses on the forehead the sleeping together the cuddling together so it is kind of considered an emotional cheating it is confusing because you know out of the house jojo and chris have like made it pretty clear they just consider themselves platonic soulmates but again it is weird because um there's fan edits of jojo and chris talking about how like they're going to be so in love or whatever and jojo is liking and reposting her mom is also reposting that so it's very mixed signals like what is actually going on but anyway so kath kind of considers that like emotional cheating um i think i agree with like what moses is saying like it is it makes sense why she's jojo is having you know this

discovery it is just so unfortunate that like kath is collateral damage in the self-discovery process but again at 21 someone who was like stunted it's not even that she's just 21 it's the fact that she was like just emotionally stunted anyway regardless so it's even yeah she's just even mentally younger in a lot of ways and this relationship is really new to the cath relationship january so that's what i'm saying it's like and her breakup before that ended in november they went instagram official in january so obviously they started dating like end end of November, December. Yeah. Yeah. She just jumps into things. But again, I like see the point. Yes, the cheating sucks, but I do have to default to the older person. It's like, you knew she just got out of a relationship two months ago. You know, she has like kind of like this rocky history

with like relationships as the older person, you might want to be like, slow down. You know what I mean? Like the older person needs to be the one yeah because i also for perspective like i am older than darian and i that's why like when everyone's like oh like why aren't you gonna propose like i'm like i would not gonna do anything like that like a big life thing like that until you're out of like completely out of grad school and stuff because then like even though he's in grad school it's not like he's in college but still like you're still figuring out. So that's why we've been together five years. But I'm still – I'm like, no, like, wait until you're completely out so, like, you know for sure. You know?

Yeah. Well, I mean, you guys have been together a long time. Yeah. But still, it's like – again, like you were saying, I am, like, the older one. And I, like, know that, you know, you're still going through school. You're still, like, figuring it out. You know? It's not like you have your life figured out completely yet.

So – Yeah, which is like – Yeah. You have to, like – as an older person, you do – I feel like you have your life figured out completely yet so yeah which is like yeah you have to like as the older person you do i feel like you have to have that at least in the back of your mind realistically like you really thought three months in you're gonna get married to a 21 year old yeah who got out of a serious relationship who said she was madly in love with her ex girlfriend and now she's saying you're she's madly in love with you and wants to marry you. It's so realistically it's like it's not, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm like in the middle because like I don't I can't like blame Jojo because like we said she's 21. This is like her first real life experience where she's figuring herself out. It just sucks that it played out so publicly and that Kath is collateral. And I do I don't think Kath was like, you know, know predatory or anything i think jojo probably really sold it like i think when you're with jojo and she's really laden on thick like i think it's easy to get swept into it um so i think that's why it just like escalated so quickly you know so i can't really like blame kath for that it sucks that it happened publicly. I'm kind of like, yes, it sucks. I really do feel for Kath, but I don't think Jojo, like I can't fully blame Jojo because

she's figuring stuff out because she is in this really weird stunted, again, not even just the age gap. She's like mentally the child star effect. Like she just hasn't had adult experience. It's not even, at least when you go to college, you you're you have some kind of adult experience you are exposed to different people different lifestyles you figure stuff out she never had not even the high school experience you know yeah she's like lived with her mom like most of her life up until she was a dog i think she might still i don't know and at 12 years old like she would did talking the big brother house

like at 12 years old she was getting she was having like adult stalkers sending her moms in her mail you know so like that's the stuff she's been dealing with she was 12 years old like she just doesn't have normal life experience and she finally got a little bit even though it's big brother it's not actual real life but for jojo that's like as i think maybe kath was maybe they were like like, just a little naive. Because you also, like, see it happen. And then you still went despite all that. And also, like, the drama with the letter. Like, JoJo got letters from home. And Kath didn't say that they love JoJo or whatever.

But, again, really mixed signals. Because JoJo was in there being, like, my sweetheart, my Kath, my partner I love. Like, I'm kind of mad they didn't say I love you in the letter, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So she didn't say I love you in the letter. Yeah. So she didn't have. I hope at some point maybe JoJo reflects and sees that she kind of went about it the wrong way. Like I think she could have handled it a little bit better. It was going to be messy regardless I think. I was going to say it's like us talking about our younger selves.

I was exposing people at 30 years old. You know what I mean? It's like I didn't need to like sit down and make a video on my kitchen floor like talking about every little like detail about someone's penis or whatever you don't even mean like hindsight is always especially 21 i mean of course she's gonna look back one day and be like that's embarrassing yeah that i did that but that is being young yeah and i guess rip the at least jojo rip the band-aid off quick like it's better to do like just call it off right then like lead kath on that's what i think i'm like well you're here and it sucks but yeah it's sad it is sad i mean because originally i saw kath's video and i was like oh i feel bad for them but

i mean because it does suck it does it's just weird like gray area that's why i think it's so like it's gripped a lot of people because it's like it sucks how it played out but also like jojo is in that self-discovery phase figuring things out we've all been 21 thought we knew what we wanted and realized maybe we didn't you know so and that's not every 21 year old like some 21 year olds like go through college and have things figured out whatever as we see with jordan jordan and bill belichick but um i don't know if she has it figured out i think she's got she's running that man like the navy so she's got she's got her girl pants yeah she's got it figured out but jojo doesn't have it figured out so i don't know it is very interesting um really in this gray area also i don't people some people go so hard against

jojo i'm like someone can do a bad thing. It doesn't mean they're a bad person. Yes, emotionally cheating, bad. But I think circumstantially it's like damn. You know, we've been – a lot of people have been in positions like that and just, you know, it's – she's figuring things out. Maybe don't date until you're 30. My dad used to say that. He's like you're not dating until you're 30.

Maybe there's some truth to it. I like that. I like that theory. Just how about don't date till you're 30 just have fun i think that's better because 20s is like full heartbreak i guess you guys were in your 20s and found love yeah i guess it's very circumstantial there's no like no there's always um i don't know it depends on like the person like their own life experience and stuff too but like for jojo specifically she just hasn't had a ton of like real real life

experience she's very good at the influencer thing. She's very good at entertaining. She's, you know, she knows how to stay relevant. But as far as like being in a fully emotionally developed human being, that's still a work in progress. Let's hope she doesn't jump into this relationship with scared.

No, I am scared. I know. It's just, yeah, I think there needs to be, I wouldn't worry about it. She'll jump out as soon as possible.

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