Just Trish - Jun 17, 2025

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

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That's why we saw we said there was no influencers this year, but it's like, okay, I'll probably go in next season. So But people who like our church and like very like the church says this and we're anti this that's giving me demon vibes because And people being so nasty throwing tomatoes I'm bothering no one and everyone's talking about me everyone's doing this and I was just like, what the hell? ["Just Trish"] Her name is Trish, she's got the mission, all the gossips, filthy rich, pretty, and big hot topic queen, and says what everybody thinks she's just Trish.

Say hello. Hello. Hello. Yay. Hello, welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. Summer is here. Summer's here. We're in AC, which is wonderful. I've been hot everywhere we go.

I was like, no, AC. Anyways, nobody cares about that. But we're here. It's the Just Trish podcast you guys. Get your cups today, your drinkware and your hats. It's a little store here, justtrish.com. You guys also June 25th live streaming the Heirs of Trish tour. I'll be at the live chat 530 PM Pacific Standard Time,

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We have the stickers too. We have plenty of new Trish emojis. Anyways, get your signed hedge out of the month. Plus bonus videos, our most popular tier is our two video a week tier where you get an extended podcast. Plus you get about an hour and a half with me and Oscar just, I was going to say Shane. I was going to say Shane for a minute. You turn into Shane during the Patreon for some reason.

Shane202012, I always say that. I watch them. You turn into Shane during the Patreon for some reason. Shane202012, I always say that. I watch them, that's how much I love them. They're so fun to watch and I love watching them. We're so fun. We had Cheesecake Factory and what did we watch? We watched... We did Reality House, but this Saturday

is a very, very special anniversary. Yes, of Toxic Gossip Train. It is the two year anniversary of toxic gossip train and we reacted to it. And honestly, I don't know if I saw the full thing ever. You didn't either. I was shook by it. I forgot we did that.

Yes. For the, it's a special two year anniversary and then we reacted to some other bad apology videos. I don't know if I've seen any, it's a key. I don't know if I've seen any of those. And we have so much more. You had a playlist of YouTuber apologies. I think we only did the girls.

Yes, we only did some of the girls. I do wanna see the guys. There's a lot more in there. Yes, but we did Laura Lee too. Yes. Which I remember reacting to and I was being so aggressive about it, but I don't know if I actually ever watched it.

Very you. I just remember everyone was mad about it. So I was like, F you Laura Lee. Even though like at the time I was making 20 apology videos. So I don't know what the hell I was on about. You really were. Every week you were speed running an, so I was like, F you, Laura Lee. Even though, like, at the time, I was making 20 apology videos, so I don't know what the hell I was on about. You really were. Every week, you were speed running an apology. I'm like, okay.

But then I loved dogpiling. That's the problem, see, that's what you, you get what you put out to the world. Because then as soon as someone would dogpile on an apology, I would too, as if I had some authority to be like, wow, that was awful. I don't know, it was very weird. Although, you have some authority now critiquing

the apology videos because I've made quite a few, so I can tell when they're genuine or not. Like even Laura Lee, people dogpiled on her and yeah, like the crying was like a much, but kind of felt for her. I had a little, little sympathy. Yeah, she had points in there. Yeah, heart was probably, I think, in the right place,

but delivery was terrible. That heart, yeah, that was crazy. Who else did we do? We did Colleen, Laura Lee. There was one more, why am I forgetting? Oh, that girl we didn't know, the one who danced to her apology? Oh, that girl we didn't know, the one who danced her apology. Oh, that one was something.

Yeah, so TikTokker who had essay allegations against Jack Wright, or Jack Wright had alleged that she essayed him, and then she did a dance apology. She did a dance apology, which I had never seen before. Me either. It was almost that there were toxic-opsip training, but then we weighed out the crimes versus the apology, and we're like, well, I think the crimes outweighed the toxic-opsip

train crimes outweighed the crimes. Not in any way other than there was like underage people involved with the toxic-opsip trains. Those two were historically terrible. The apologies too, because the crimes, I don't want to say crimes, I guess, I guess maybe alleged crimes, I don't know, are so serious and so much, you know, it wasn't like, I can't say anything's little, but like, you know, some people apologize for like, I guess they're all- Jenna Marbles with the-

Oh yeah. She apologized cause she had fish in a circular tank and she had did an apology video for that. So in comparison- I didn't see that one, we need to watch out. So right, there's some serious, you know, allegations and the way they responded with the singing and the dancing. Yeah, Jenna Marbles being more sincere and heartbroken for having a circular tank for her fish versus

having essay allegations or child grooming allegations and then singing and dancing your way through it is kind of crazy. Also, Gaslighty. I just, I don't know. Go check it out. I don't want to, everyone's like, trust that you're with a drama. I mean mean we have a drama podcast. We do it a couple hours a week I don't know. It was it was yeah Someone's got to keep it going because everyone is tapping out a drama these days my god We really need us we need just Trish now more than that is so true I want to fall in everyone has fallen and telling you we're gonna hit our stride Give me until I'm like 40 and then it's gonna be like, I'll win the lottery by then, I'll still do this,

don't worry, but then I can really, you know, just give my realness, you know what I mean? Because sometimes you just wanna give the realness, but yeah, you're right, I mean, it's just fun. Everyone needs a little toxic gossip in their life. It's funny to laugh at now, but I remember like watching it, I was like, oh, we were talking about that era, and I was like, God, it was rough, it was triggering,

I was spiraling, it was summer, summer were talking about that era and I was like, God, it was, it was rough. It was triggering. I was spiraling. It was summer. Summer always hits the fan. As we have the summer, we have great, great stuff happening. Baby, your birthday. There's just like a lot happening. So this summer is wonderful. Summer of peace. We love, we do.

Well, hopefully. Yeah. I mean, the world is upside down, but maybe no drama this year on. Here's hopefully, yeah. I mean, the world is a little upside down, but maybe no drama this year. Here's hoping, yeah. Yeah, but we're still here. Yep. Okay. You're wearing jorts.

I wish I would have worn my jorts. I wish I had the men, I would have worn it today. I know, I think I started wearing jorts ironically because of Brown Chicken Fry and Jortscape, but now I think I just like jorts. So, yeah. I love it. Was it Tana that was wearing the jorts and Jortscape. And now I think I just like jorts. So yeah. I love it. And was it Tana that was wearing the jorts? Jorts, yeah.

So I guess I'm Tana in that sense. Ending Biphobia too, I love it. You know, we're just wearing jorts in support, which I love to see. The shirt's great. Moses has a new shirt, not from Amazon. No, this cost like 20 times more than my Amazon. How do you know how much it cost?

I was my father's day gift to you. Oh, there was a thing inside. A tag? Yeah. Oh, that's when I lose him. He gets mad at me. One, he always gets mad if I like buy him stuff because he's always just like, oh, like last night he said we should just go shopping together for my, but I mean, that's not presents

then if I go with you to like buy stuff together, right? Yeah, you have to like buy it for the person That's the whole point of a present. But the gift is us together having the time the dates to go and shop together No, cuz you should go to Uniqlo. You would never go on a sax with Avenue Which is where I got this shirt. You would never want to go in there. It was from the white lotus collection I was so excited. It was the official White Lotus tag was on there. It was Zach's Avenues club. This is like the Italian, I think you said it's season two? Yes, Sicily.

Wow. I didn't know. I thought it was the Thailand one. That was my bad. Because we love the Thailand one. But it still looks good. It's giving summer with the lemons. Yeah. And I guess, since we're talking about Father's Day. Oh yeah, there's my dad mug I got for Moses it was you know, it was a wild Father's Day. Yes, she The kids had a little bit of meltdown, but you know

We were trying to get to the pool all day and never really happened Honestly, my girls want to be in the AC and like there's nothing wrong We had the swimsuits on them she loved the swimsuit but didn't want to get the pool So we just put her in the bathtub in a swimsuit. I was like, well, we had the pool all heated. Moses gets most excited for a pool day. Like he loves it, he was blowing up the toys for them but it didn't quite work out.

But anyways, happy Blade of Father's Day to everyone out there. Did you spend time with your dad yesterday and your new puppy? Did you? Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Yeah, yesterday I was with the Creators for Peace crew. Oh yes, how'd that go? It was really bit, yeah. Yeah, yesterday I was with the Creators for Peace crew. Oh yes, how'd that go? It was really fun, yeah.

They raised so much money for Point of Pride and it was really sweet because it was all for trans affirmative care and everything and they even had all these little cards of trans people that they've helped and they were reading their stories throughout the whole stream. And when I left, they raised almost $20,000. And I feel like it's probably more after.

In one afternoon? Yeah, which is crazy. That's amazing. So were you guys all in one location? Yeah, I was all at the Try Guys studio. How's that? It was scheduled throughout the day. So I was in one of the earlier ones.

But I stayed around for a while because I was just having a key. Yes it was really fine. Everyone was really sweet. Everyone's like oh we really love Trish. Yeah they were so nice. People say that to me about you and me too at shows. Everyone's like we love Oscar. I love it. That's so cute. It was really fun. I saw Austin's show was there and I was having a key with him and his boyfriend. First time meeting? Yeah we've been oomfies for a long time. That was our first time actually meeting. It was so nice. He was like, oh yeah, like I moved to West Hollywood,

so like we should finally do something. And I'm like, yeah, like we really need a collab. And he's like, well, I kind of just meant like brunch, but yeah, that too. I love a brunch. I was like, work, okay. Oh, you should go to a brunch. My friend Austin showed, yeah.

I love a brunch. Me too. That's so fun, oh my God, you should go. It was so nice. At the Abbey, would you go or where? Is that too much? I think a brunch. Me too. Oh my god. He was so nice. At the Abbey? Where'd you go? Or where? I think his house.

Oh, at the house. I thought his house. But yeah, maybe he meant like out on the WeHo bars. Yeah, yeah. That'd be so fun. That could be Hampton Ramirez or something. That'd be fun. Yeah.

That'd be so fun. When's the last time you went to a brunch out in West Hollywood? A long time. Even West Hollywood in general. I was supposed to go out last week because Darien's friends were in town and they went to, I think, beaches or something because our friend Evan was having an as-if party,

the one that Misha Spice hosted before. And I was too depressed to go, so he went with his friends. And guess who was there? Cat's Eye was there, just dancing, just dancing to Gnarly for fun. And I was like, damn, I really should have rallied and gone. You gotta say yes to things.

That was yes. That was a big, a big sign from the universe to like. Cause that would have cured your depression. Honestly, what a. That's so true. Yeah, and I also was supposed to do a shoot with Cat's Eye, I think this week at some time, but I can't do it anymore.

What? I know. Why? Can you tell us or not? Why? Okay. I'm laughing just because it's, because my grandpa is dying,

so I think I'm busy this week. Yes. And I'm only laughing because I was like a nervous tick. You know, but. So yeah, and that was like, that was my silver lining because there was so much of this month. And I'm like, at least I'm gonna, I might see Cat's eye. And then, yeah,'t do it and then I miss them again I miss them

again and then they're doing a signing at the Grove that I try to get into but then it sold out anyway whatever you're gonna meet and I keep using this word I'm using right in a kismet way like it's like a meant to be way because that's how I was a dried way I kept missing him too yes you'll meet somehow in a better way when the time is right yes when the timing's right on a different circumstance circumstance not meant to be right now and that's okay That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, but I didn't meet vanilla mace Huh half of our comments have been that I know about the meeting Yeah, like because he's gonna meet her after the comments were like bring her on the podcast

Okay, I think I downplayed it last time we talked about her that I have to go to the comments where I bring her on the podcast. I know. Okay, I kinda got, okay, I think I downplayed it last time we talked about her, that I actually do love her, but I was like, and then I saw she responded to our last podcast, and I was kinda like, I wish I would've said more, I do think she's so iconic. I didn't know she vlogged, but I do think she's so iconic, and I was just like,

damn, and I know she's the it girl right now, so I'm not even trying to like, Yes, me too. You know what I mean? But I was, okay, tell me. Oh my god. Do you have me on stream? Yeah, so she was in a segment like right after mine.

Like she was like literally the part right after me. So I was walking out after mine and then I had to like pass the mic on and then I saw her and then I saw that she reacted to us. So I'm like, she at least knows my face. So I'm like, huh? And then like I give her a hug. It was like, it's so nice to meet you.

And then I panicked. I'm like. Oh no! We're panickers over here. We literally, we're the same. I literally started bowing. I'm like. Oh no! We're panickers over here. We're the same. I literally started bowing. I didn't know what else to do. I was like, Queen. I'm like, everyone else, I was so cool. Like me and Austin Shaw, I'm like, you know, that's my sis Austin. Like everyone else, I was so calm, so cool. It was like no big deal. But then I saw Vanilla Mace. I

was like, I just, I panicked and started bowing. I don't know, I didn't know what to do. She's just like everything. Did you get a picture? No one was taking like photos. So then I had Darian come with me to like, and he was carrying my camera to like take photos because I assumed everyone would be like doing selfies

and stuff that everyone was just like too cool, I think. Maybe you just didn't see it happening. I bet people were thinking. No, because I was in the, I was in the mix the whole time and no one was doing it We're at a content day like world prior like everyone's like this is day for a picture with this person You know that was like a whole thing because it's such a small it was like a small set So smaller than this I mean a bigger than this but like it was live

So we couldn't even like it was We had to kind of be like quiet and like sneak off in little rooms and stuff and it was kind of hard to like get Photos and literally no one was taking photos. So when she comes in to swap the mic, you're live, you're streaming. Yes, there's no commercial breaks. It's just live transitions, one group exiting, another group coming in. Is there screenshots?

It's like a gelatin. Yes, literally. We were off camera, because I was off camera meeting her. What? But she was so, just like the sweetest ever. She was so nice. And then afterwards, she did, she stuck around, I think she did two or three segments

just because she was like down for whatever. And then, I was just dating in the hallway with Austin and then she came to like eat a snack and we were just making like random small talk. What did she eat? She ate this like donut and she didn't really like it. And I could tell her, I was like, oh, she's not feeling it. I was really trying to like,

I was laying it on like the sassy gay friend, you know? I don't know why. You said that? You talked to him? You're like, you're not feeling that donut girl. Yeah, but I was like, I need to be gay. I don't know, I just felt it. I was like, I need to be gayer than ever.

I was like, oh shit. But that is a good go-to. I would say that for me, if you're ever questioning coming up to me, just be like super gay and I'm like, I love this person You know, yeah, yeah, I literally like she was the one person. I was like panicked over. I was like, oh, she's not feeling it She's like, yeah, I don't know something about this. I'm like, I see it. I'm like, I think it's one of those healthy vegans

I think kind of was it was like a gluten-free or something. I don't know. But yeah, we had a little key over that I love it. Did she put it back or she threw it out? She went to try a different donut. Oh, I love that. And then she still wasn't feeling that one either. So yeah, I think that's the first video I ever saw of her is trying to donut. Oh, car. You've never seen this one? No, in general. That's the first time I ever saw her. What was she trying to see that one? She was just taking a bite of a donut and suddenly her face laid out and she's like, you know Talk snack, you know

What don't it's what we get if she was here what's like the ultimate donut? California don't sort I think of that's in k-town though. That's pretty far. Is there a good donut place around here? I don't know. I don't know either Your mom kind of I feel like your mom would know your mom always had a winch But I love a winchell's donut, but that's where she's going. Bang and Bun has like donuts right now. They have like really. Oh, that's fierce. Did someone send you donuts one time?

The cinnamon rolls. Oh, cinnamon rolls, yes. Which would be so cute too. Also there's one in Vegas, those ones that they sent us to the show, lottery, I forgot what they're called. They're so good too. Holly Madison sent them to me.

We'd have to get them with her face on it or something. She is a dream guest, but I do get nervous when there's this really popular girl. She makes me very nervous. Even like, I did feel validated though, because I was talking to Frogan who was there too, and she was like, no, I saw her, I think Jake Webber's birthday party or something,

and she was like, I was too scared to go up to her. So I was like, that's validating that she is just, even though she's so nice and cool, it's just an intimidating presence because everyone loves her. And I don't want to be like, so many people are growing up and asking for collabs and stuff.

So I was too scared to be like, oh, come on the podcast. I'm just gonna talk about her here. It's like, I spice with a couple of years later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's always gonna be that girl, but you know what I mean? Yeah, I feel that way too. Especially because she's like real. And sometimes I think of myself as real, but I'm like not as real as that. So I feel like sometimes real recognizes

fake and big. This is fake. You know what I mean? So I'm scared about that. I feel real when that computer grew. Yes. She's very real. She's IRL. IRL? Is that the right way to use it? Well, sort of kind of. Yeah, I guess. In real life, she's real life. Oh, is that what? Oh, in real life. I always see IRL. I just thought that meant like you're real, like I'm real. I real. I real.

In real life. It was people, it used to be people that stream in real life. IRL. Like people. Oh, why do people say, you know, my tech, this is so not a hot topic and no one cares, but my FYP right now is um Like biblical AI. Have you seen those? Oh my god, it's like Bible characters blogging and it looks so real. Oh actually did see one. Which one did you see? Um, I think it was Moses. I was tagged on my

Post the Moses like hey guys, what's up? It's here like and they go through the events So I learned about all these people I learned about job the other day I didn't know about him where all his stuff was taken away and then was restored. He's like, yo, God gave me back a whole new set of kids. And I was like, oh, so it makes me want to know the story. Jonah was inside the whale and then I got spit up. He's like, yo, the whale just spit me up. But I guess that's the Uber, bro. But they all say the same thing on these. They all say yo, what's up chat? We're going through whatever. so what is chat like everyone always says? Hey chat like in twitch when they stream so they read the chat so the chat is the people all the people that watch and tribute because I watched Eve

Adam and Eve and she's like hey chat God just created me and everyone's like but there's no other people watching And I thought what a plot hole that was in my AI system because she was like talking to the chat And I was like what is that got it so someone's like typing we have that we have a chat during the live. Moses is always in it, he's always in the chat so you would say it. Just make sure people are. But when people are vlogging how are they saying hey chat? It's kind of just used to like talk to the viewers now like it's used more loosely and sometimes ironically too. Like like there's no chat happening. Yeah like sometimes people just write on their

Instagram story like hey Chad what do you think this is? Like I don't know. It's like yeah. Oh okay. I'm gonna start using it because all my Bible vloggers do that. It's so good. You have to get on that TikTok. I don't know. That'd be funny. It's so, they're so real. Like the Moses one looks so real. I sent it to him. I was like oh my god that's so crazy. He's like, yeah, so Pharoah said no.

So it looks like we're gonna have to escape tonight. Like it's so good the way they, I don't know, it seems real. And then all the comments are always like, this has to be real because AI wasn't invented back then. And I'm like, I love TikTok comments. It's my favorite thing that I'm on right now, which is why I never have any hot topics anymore.

Can I just scroll through that and find it? Because now there's like George Washington ones, but they're not as good as the Bible ones, but it is good. All right, so chat and IRL. Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode. All right, we love SeatGeek. We use SeatGeek.

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Really? What's a new thing people are saying? Whose book was... Someone's book was called like... Maybe it was Joey Graceffa's book was called like IRL in real life. I think the book he came out was... Yeah. Was it a memoir? Yeah. At like 23? Yeah. I remember 23. Yeah.

I remember Connor Franta, all those people were coming out with memoirs and I was just like, I wonder what they wrote about. I should, we should do book club and read them. Honestly T, yeah. Remember someone gave you Jen X Penn's memoir to give to me at the tour. Oh yeah, did you read it?

I just came through it, but I haven't sat down or read it. So I should actually sit down and read it. You should do a book club. Yeah. She's a little older now, so she could have had a good, or is it older, an older book? No, it was when she was like a teenager. I think yeah, I think she was like 19 Crazy like they were all getting book deals back

They must have the same agents that were just giving them book deals. I think so Yeah, or the same publisher or something was just like who's a popular youtuber That's so true cuz everyone was getting them and I was like, how are they? Why are they getting them got it it. Should be interesting to read. I want to read Joey's at 23. Like, what was his? I guess he had some stuff with his mom and being closeted and stuff, so.

Yeah. That makes sense. I love that. Love a coming out story. I do. I do love one. Who was I researching the other day? And someone was, oh, we have a guest coming up

that was talking about his coming out story. I won't spoil it, but thanks to someone we know on the show, I was like, okay, let's go, love that. Did you have to come out? Did we talk about this? Did I have to come out? Yeah, or no? No, no, I didn't. Love that.

Honestly, yeah, me too. Your parents were just like, one day you just started like, how did it, nothing, or do they know? I think everyone kind of just knew. I think everyone had a sneaking suspicion since I was maybe a little taught, yeah. Wow, so you never had to be like, hey guys, I'm gay. No, I never had like a coming out story or anything.

Yeah, I, the first time it ever got addressed was when my first boyfriend and I was, I was 2019. So I was like 27 or something, or 28. And then my mom was like, oh, so you have a boyfriend? I was like, yeah, because she follows me on Instagram. So I think she just saw my Instagram. So yeah. That's cute, easy, love that.

It was super easy, yeah. I love that. That's why I always hope, like my kids' generation, I hope they don't feel like they have to be like, I'm gay. I know, I'm very privileged to have that kind of family that's just like, okay, work. Yeah, I'm gay. I know, I'm very privileged to have that kind of family that's just like, okay, work. Yeah, I love that. I love that so much.

It just was never a thing, luckily. That's a good memoir, but I like it. You're so right, damn. You're not getting that book deal based on that, but at least you had a healthy family. Love it. Damn, yeah. Not enough gay trauma. That's good though.

Yeah, yeah. We should normalize that too. It's just having a normal life, you know? Normal, that's such a bad word to use. You know, one day you might be on UK Big Brother and Switch, then you'll have a whole book to write about it. True. Oh my gosh, could you imagine?

The thought makes me a little, oh. Have you just started dating a girl? Yeah. You know, bisexuality is a thing. It is a thing, I just don't think that's me, but you know. You never know. I really don't, I really don't. I guess you do, some people know, I don't know.

Although JoJo thought she knew too, so I don't know. That's true. Yeah. That does kinda scare me. She's young. Gotta explore, that's what I tell everyone, just explore everything. That does kind of scare me. She's young. Gotta explore. That's what I tell everyone. Just explore everything. That's why I said we're all a little gay because you gotta explore a little bit. Yeah. You never really know. I never really know. You're just like, you don't know. Don't know where life takes you. But life takes us here. So I love that Vanilla Mace was cool. I love that. That was your, who's your fave? My fave that I saw there? Yeah, did you get to meet anyone else?

Oh my gosh, yeah, I saw a lot. I mean, everyone was so nice. Frogan, Emma Langevin, I'm pronouncing your last name wrong, Emma, I'm so sorry. But she was there. Amanda Todd Hunter, who I loved too, was there. HGH Hayes was there. He's like a music reactor and he was really cool.

A music reactor. Oh, Vivianne Wilson was there, he's like a music reactor, and he's really cool. A music reactor. Oh, Vivianne Wilson was there, I love her. How is she? She is so fierce. Oh my God. She's just fierce, I'm sorry, like when you're, like, she's just kind of a girl, she feels like a model. I don't know how else to say it, like, when I'm next to her, I feel like I'm next to someone famous.

Yeah. Like, I don't know, like she has, she exudes it. She's very nice, but she's just fierce. I don't know, she was sitting next to meudes it. She's very nice, but she's just fierce. I don't know, she was sitting next to me on the couch. She's like, Diva, what's the wifi? And I'm like, girl, there's literally a giant sign right there that says guess what. That's me all the time, I was like, what's the wifi?

Everyone's like, it's right there. She's just like, it was fierce. I love that. Yes. You always gotta ask what the wifi is, that's a must. She was killing, she was a key. Everyone was, she did a little drag performance too at the end, it was a key. Will Neff was did a little drag performance too at the end.

It was a key. Will Neff was there. How long did you stay for? A while. I think I left like four. And I got there at like 11.45. But you said you had to be quiet. So what were you doing?

Being loud in the back. Oh, were you gonna tell me to be quiet? Did you meet the Try Guys? No, no, I don't, no. I think they were either before me or at the very end. And only, I think it was only two of them. I don't, no, I think they were either before me or at the very end. And only, I think it was only two of them. I don't, I forget which ones.

Isn't that all that's left anyways? I think there's like three or four, no? Or maybe three. I think they're off. I think they all fell off except for two. Really? Yeah. Damn.

One left, cause Eugene, right, is that his name? He was like the third, cause the one, the cheater. Eugene left? Yeah. Oh. He left like maybe a year ago the one, the cheater. Eugene left? Yeah. Oh. He left like maybe a year ago. Damn, what? Yeah, cause it was like the cheater left first,

alleged, I don't know. I think proven, yeah. The proven cheater left, and then Eugene left cause he was like trying to leave but he didn't know the right time. So I think there's only two, the two with the glasses, which you'd fit in. You should be the third try guy.

Damn, yeah. You look like them. You could be a try guy. I love, do I love trying things? I guess I do like trying things, yeah. I think you do. You should be on it, go apply. Should I be a Try Guy. I love trying things. Do I love trying things? I guess I do like trying things. I think you do. You should be on it.

Go apply. Should they be taking applicants? That'd be so cute. Oh my God. That'd be crazy, but I need three jobs. J-T-E-T or T-G. T-G. T-G, yeah.

Oh my God. Well, that's exciting. I hope you get that. The job you just made up for me. Yeah. Love. Okay. Work. Would be great. Yeah, I guess I never really watched the Try Guy, so I'm not really familiar with their... That's better then, you don't feel intimidated. Honestly, yeah, to you.

I love doing things like I've never seen before, because then I'm like, I don't really know about this show anyway, so... And then you get it, and then you don't feel as nervous. Because the thing I auditioned for last week, I know really well, and I think I was so nervous. As opposed to the thing I auditioned for earlier in the year. I didn't really know. The stakes felt lower. Yeah I was like I don't know.

But this show I was like this is everything you know so I think I kind of flubbed it up but. I think one of the hottest topics I think was Sabrina Carpenter's new album art which came out last week but the discourse has gone on for days and days and days. I know. Most actually was like telling us the last Hot Topics that Wednesday. He's like, Sabrina Carpenter has a new album. I was just like, work.

I didn't see the discourse yet. I didn't either. I didn't think anything of it, to be honest. Me? When I saw the picture, I knew the discourse was coming. Oh, you knew? What did you see? You were like, this is, oh, not the straw with no water in there.

No, you brought your water. Okay. I was like, you tricked me. I was like, wow, we got a straw for me today. No, but you just do it for the mug your water. Okay, I was like, you tricked me. I was like, wow, we got straw for me today. No, but you just do it for the Monkeh. Okay, I'll go for this. Actually, I love this holly pot for real. I know it's sponsored today, but this is tasting like sparkling cider.

You like holly pot? I like the cream soda holly pot. We actually need a fridge of them. They don't sell this holly pot, but we got them at the store and they're so good. They're crisp, so good. It is not sponsored. Well, it is sponsored today, but so good. We actually like them too. They taste like, they taste like bomb. Yeah. Why did you think the discord? You saw that and be like, oh my gosh, it's going to be, it's going to be in news. It's going to be hot topics. I wouldn't have thought anything of it.

It's just the picture was provocative. I guess it is. I guess when I first saw it, I didn't think much of it either. I was like, work. And then, yeah, but I think a majority of the internet did think it was very provocative. The album is called Man's Best Friend and the main cover art, she is like on all fours with a man pulling her hair. And a legend man. True. People are suspecting it could be Sabrina in a suit if you pull out. They think it's going to be her. Oh, okay. Work. That's what I had seen. I was like, okay. Love, and then the second album art

was like a photo of her dog's collar and this has man's best friend on it. So like, my thinking was just like, oh, it's kind of like a play on feeling like men can probably think of her like, oh, just like a, what is like the female dog called a bitch? So people thinking, men thinking in relationships, she can just be like the bitch or whatever.

And then it being kind of like subversive, but everyone was really offended by- What was the offense? That the main argument that I saw on TikTok was Sabrina Carpenter is like setting women back. It's like Sydney Sweeney, Bonnie Blue, Sabrina Carpenter, they're setting women back. That's crazy to put Bonnie Blue in Bonnie Blue, Sabrina Carpenter. They're setting women back. That's crazy to put Bonnie Blue in that category.

I know, I'm like, what the hell is going on? Bonnie Blue is having sex with like a thousand men. It does. And like unprotected, like you know what I mean? Like it's getting kicked off a lap. Sabrina and like Sydney are selling like a fantasy. Yeah, well also I'm so confused by it too. Basically it's like that she's selling this idea

of being like very like submissive in relationships and you know, like the Juno's sex positions on tour. She sings about sex. She did the cover of Rolling Stone that got announced the same week and on the cover, she's like seemingly nude and she has like long hair kind of covering like her butt and her boobs. Yeah.

So basically it's everyone saying that she is catering to like the male gaze and it's not like a good feminist image and like young girls look up to her. But she, I don't know where this came from because she literally has five music videos where she sings about killing men. Like there's literally five videos where she like kills men and she's like the man eater who won't like cater to men.

So I don't understand where this idea that she's like submissive and only cares about like being seen by men. I don't know where it came from. All her songs are like anti that. Yeah, I don't really get that either. The argument of like her because like I feel like especially feminists being like, it's like, isn't that the whole point of feminism is to be like naked? Because like why do men get to be like topless and we can't, you know what I mean? So it's like, it's like, isn't that the whole point of feminism is to be naked? Because like, why do men get to be like topless and we can't, you know what I mean? So it's like, I feel like these feminists are sending feminism back, you know what I mean?

And it's like, you should be able to be naked in general, well, also topless at least, like why is it a big deal? She's topless, but like guys can be topless on billboards. Like I just, I hate that so much. No, it's very weird too, because it's also like the same group of people get really excited when Bad Bunny is taking an underwear photo and literally Twitter is going crazy zooming in on his balls.

Oh my God. Is he cut or uncut? Yes. And everyone wants him to post like more thirst traps. Shawn Mendes does like Calvin Klein underwear ads and everyone's like dead over that. Benson Boone is in his little speedo with the American flag on it doing back flips. Everyone eats that up. You're so right.

But why are we mad at Sabrina? And also she literally only has like three songs that are like about sex in like the past two albums. So I don't know why, all because of the Juno positions. Which is also, I feel like a very feminist thing. Cause like guys can talk about sex and be sexual, but I feel like can't do it. Like why can't we talk about sex?

Like it's so, it's so weird. And she kind of, because in Rolling Stone she got asked about like the um how she feels about the criticism about her singing about sex or whatever she's like honestly i only i don't really do it that much it's just the times i do it is when it gets the most popular so that seems like a problem on the consumer basically which is true because how does she get famous from the nonsense outros where she was like being cheeky about like sex or whatever? And then that kind of made that made went really viral and then the Juno positions also went viral throughout the tour Right and there was one time on April Fool's where she didn't do it and then she got hate for not doing a sex position

So it's like wait, but the you guys the ones making it viral I know that's what people want to see and we like crape like out And we like, create like, also as women, and you're just like, oh my god, that's what we wanted, you know what I mean? Because it's giving that like, I don't know, power back. To be like, we can also talk about sex, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. And also cutesy, I don't know. Like the fact that she did like an Eiffel Tower position, I was like, girl, go off. You know what I mean?

And Freya's like, that's funny. Yeah, it was so funny and so cute. And it's just like, yeah, and the other guys, you're just like... It's so weird to me. I don't know why people got so upset and it's just like yeah any other guys you're just like it's so weird to me I don't know why people got so upset about it and honestly to me I'm like it's just more of like the pendulum effect I think because like it's literally a year ago the thing everyone loved about her is now the thing everyone hates about her and it's like what the hell it's not what chapel to like her outspokenness is what people like and then yeah the one she loves, yeah. They're like, actually, no, you're too much.

The potential effect is real. It's very real. I know, I hate it so much. Just like, okay. I feel like people are just really mad at the state of the world, which makes sense, obviously, but then I feel like we're taking it out on the wrong thing. Yeah, let's not take it out on Sabrina Carpenter.

Really, the women setting, like her setting women back and not the people in power who are taking away women's rights. Like I think they are setting women back more than Sabrina Carpenter. It really made me upset. I was like, what? Cause it's literally almost all the comments I saw were like opposed to this like album art. And I'm like, yeah, it's supposed to be provocative and get people talking, but why would you think it's submissive? There's nothing in Sabrina's catalog

where she caters herself to man. She has a song called Good Graces that is like, kiss this cute ass bye bye. If you add this up, I'm gonna hook up with your favorite athlete and make your life miserable. I love it, you know the lyrics. Is this our new one or short and sweet? It was from short and sweet, yeah.

So yeah, she's all about, and she obviously leaves when she's treated like sh**, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's so odd. I know. That's why. Like you said, maybe people just want somebody to be upset with, but I don't know if Sabrina

is the one that leaves them. Totally. And I get to, maybe it's almost too soon for her to do two new albums back to back, one year apart. But I like that she- Is that what people are saying? That's so funny. almost like too soon for her to do like two new albums like back to back like one year apart. But I like that she- Is that what people are saying? That's so funny.

I will see people were complaining because like, oh, this sounds just like all the other Sabrina Carpenter songs, but I'm like, well, first of all, her new era was just like a year ago. So obviously it's going to be a little similar. And then she probably had like so much material after like Barry that she's like, damn, hold on. I got another 10 songs in me.

You know? But then people are mad because it's like, well, the man child's like, well, it's not espresso. Well, it's like, well, OK, do you want it to sound the same or do you want it to sound different? It's so odd. I like that she's just releasing another album so quick, though. She's like, honestly, like, people used to do this, like Dolly Parton used to release albums like every year. I have stuff to write about, so why not? Because I remember in the past, the issue was she didn't have enough songs

yeah when the tour started like something like it was short there was not enough songs even things i'm like yeah because she ignored it well she doesn't like her older music from her older label so she only likes emails i can't send short and sweet and now um man's best friend oh what she doesn't like them or what i think she just doesn't feel like she identifies with that music anymore because what was it about um it, honestly it wasn't like, I think sonically it was probably just not her style now. And also like it's from her old label. And she got more artistic control when she switched record labels,

like with emails that can't sign in out, like Short and Sweet. So, and honestly the fact that it took her like a decade to like pop off shows that like, you know, that her label didn't know what to do with her. Her sound, yeah. I do love the Short and Sweet album, it's so good. What a Grammy, right?

Yes, it did, right, yeah. Yeah. And Emails I Can't Send is like one of my favorite albums too. I listen to that more than Short and Sweet, honestly. Really? What's that one about? Honestly, it has, I mean, it has nonsense.

So that's like the sexy song in it. Oh, got it, got it. It has Feather, which is like the Screw Men song. It has a song about her dad cheating on her mom. Ah, geez, oh my god, it's like deep then. It is pretty deep. Love it. I think she's like a good, did she write her songs?

Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, she has like co-writers, obviously, but she does like, yeah. And she said this song, this album, is because she was like so inspired and the songs were just like, felt easy to write, so album is because she was like so inspired and the songs were just like, it felt easy to write. So that's why she's making a new album.

But did she say the song wasn't about Barry Kogan or was that a joke? Remember she said like, oh, his first name rhymes with it was like someone else's name. Oh, for a man child. Yeah. Yeah. And I think too, I interpreted man child is probably just like a combination of like every guy that she's dated, because that's kind of like the music video. She goes through a lot of men every guy that she's dated. Cause that's kind of like the music video. She goes through a lot of men that are like similar in a way, like they look different,

but they end up having like similar problems. That's how I perceive that. Cause he also had a line about like the guy, like the guy's mom or something. And people were like, it wouldn't be about Barry because he was like in an orphanage. So she wouldn't like write a line about Barry's mom, which makes sense. Yeah. So I think it was probably a combination of- Oh my God, was he an orphanage? That's't like write a line about Barry's mom which makes sense.

Yeah so I think it's probably a combination. Was he an orphanage? That's so sad. I think so yeah or he didn't have a mom so I don't think she would be writing about that. Right right right because how would she know who the mom is if he didn't know? Tea yeah. Yeah a whole thing. Yeah that's crazy wow. So I think it's just a combination. She's probably just very inspired by- Yeah, awful men. Yeah. In general. We're generally all then. I know, there's a lot of them out there.

And that's what makes a good song. You know, I've never, I've realized it. I've never heard like a love song. Do you ever like love songs? There's never a song I'm like, oh, I love a love song. You know, there are love songs. I think when I was younger, I definitely did because I was very much like, I think the idea of love.

Right now, I think I'm in like a b**** track era. I think that's why I love Gnarly so much, because it's just like a b**** track. I'm the s***. I'm the s***. No, no, no, no, no, no, Gnarly. So I think that's kind of the vibe I feel right now. Right, right.

It's better. More empowering. Yeah, it makes you feel good. It makes you feel powerful. That's kind of the vibe I'm in. I like the Taylor Swift ones about breakups, because I was like, oh, it just feels like empowering. Yeah, and that's why I liked Reputation so much.

Even though it was like, there were love songs in there, it was all like, it was still like empowering and being like F, Kanye, F, Kim, you know, it was like. Oh, was that that album? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She really was ahead of her time with that one. Oh yes, she really was because everyone loves it now. I know.

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Travis Kelsey's Moms on Trader, season four. Damn. Yeah. What a cast, I do like most of this Traders cast for the most part, but. I'm not hating either way, but everyone is very not happy about it online. I think, I saw a lot of people hate Michael Rapoport. I saw that was the number one.

Who is that? I honestly had never heard of him before. I know he's filled in for Wendy, but like why do we hate him? I mean, I can tell looking at him, I get it. But also like, what did he do? There's a lot of stuff. Probably a lot. A lot, yeah.

It was like. Okay, maybe I should look this up. Like the rundown was he was racist, homophobic. Oh, oh. He was like Zionist, anti-Greta Thunberg. Like the list goes on and on and on. Oh, this is all very recent. Like very vocal, recent, like past couple of years. I'm like, damn, anti-Greta Thunberg. Like the list goes on and on and on. It's all very recent. Like very vocal, recent, like past couple of years. I'm like, damn, that is.

Okay. The clips I saw were like a lot and literally very, very recent. Why is he on there? I guess he's friends with Andy Cohen. That's what everyone said. But I- Is Andy Cohen a producer? I think cause it's PCA or like NBC Universal.

Wait, who, does Andy Cohen own something? I think cuz it's Pico or like NBC Universal Own something he is like the one of the producers of the housewives franchise doesn't own Bravo Not own Bravo. No, but he's one of the EP. So why is he so influential? Look, I don't want to hate on him. Okay, love him. I was supposed to go on watch what happened I was like, did I ever talk? I don't think so. Maybe probably not I don't know him but people people seem to be scared of him. Or are they like, either they're scared of him or they're obsessed with him. And so I'm like, okay, what is his power?

I think he's just very influential. Like he is the, he kind of runs Bravo essentially. But he's very influential in Bravo. Like he makes or breaks the housewives' careers on the show. And he talks with Michael Rappaport. I guess, so that's what I read. It was a lot to go through. I'm like, you know, the housewives careers on the show. And he's talking with Michael Rappaport. I guess, so that's what I read. It was a lot to go through, I'm like, okay.

And also there's enough bad stuff I was learning about last week, I didn't really wanna deep dive more into this, to be honest. People are mad about him. I got the spark notes and I was like, I'm good. Yeah, especially on TikTok I saw too, like on the Trader's announcement of the cast,

everyone's like, wow, you ruined a great cast with him. Okay, so some people did love the cast. I saw a lot of people not loving a great cast with him. And like- So some people did love the cast. I saw a lot of people not loving the cast. I didn't know the cast, but I never know the cast and then ended up loving them. So I don't know anybody because I don't watch reality TV. Yeah, people were really excited about the Survivor picks.

I really like Natalie. She was on Survivor and she was on the Amazing Race with Joey Graceffa actually. Not partners, but they- Same season. Same season and they were like in an alliance on amazing race. Yeah.

But I loved her on survivor. Darian actually got me a cameo from her for like our anniversary one year, like 2020. Love a cameo. I didn't get back on there. I do love a cameo. She gave like, and I love when they make, as you know, when they make them really long too, like-

You do like that. She really gave my money's worth, yeah. That's what I was like doing too. I was like, oh, do you oh you're paying money I'm like let me give a conversation let me give this seven minute conversation she was a winner too so I'm excited for her the house like the housewives I think people really excited about is Dorit the same person that left first last time oh Dorinda Dorinda Medley yes she's the same person that left yeah she got

eliminated first last season she she's back this season. She's from New York, from Housewives of New York. Monet Exchange, I love Monet Exchange. We love Monet Exchange too. We were saying that there's so many people from Survivor and Housewives. Like, the queens, they do get eliminated quite early. Why would they not have more queens from RuPaul?

Honestly T, they should at least do like two, three? Like a couple. At least we have 5,000 survivor people, like why don't they have at least three queens? And arguably RuPaul is like the most famous show, right up there with Traders because they were winning 16 seasons in a row of Emmys. So and Alan Cumming like loves Ru, he was talking about how he saw him after he beat him for the first time with Emmys and he was cool with him. So it's like why, and he advocates,

I think Alan says he advocates to have more queer people on the show, so why would he not have more queens on? True, at least this season does have a lot of queer people. And I think there was like five queer people because there was like, I think one or two from Survivor that were queer. There was a few last year, like five, right? Last year, wasn't there quite a few?

Gabby, Bob, that one old guy, who else? That one old guy. Oh, Bob, the trainer. Oh yes, the other Bob, yes. And... Can't remember who was on last season. I think. Did I say it?

Oh, Chris Shell, think it's queer. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, you're right. So like, yeah, four-ish, four-fine. So we love that. And I know Alan said that was his big thing, is to get more people on, but it's like, okay, but I think if we're having people from different shows,

which they, you know, the Housewives band up together, I feel like the Queens would do it too. So I think they're a little outnumbered and putting Monet in there, it's like, it's gonna happen. At least Monet is a reality TV super fan, and Monet loves Survivor, Big Brother, loves those shows so much. So yeah, Monet is very strategic,

so I have a lot of faith in Monet. And poor Bob, the drag queen last season, his mom just died right before, so he said he wasn't even in the right headspace to compete, and I think Trixie Mattel was supposed to be in it with him and then Trixie didn't do it. So that was like, I feel like just, he said yes, obviously it's an opportunity,

but probably like just bad timing. But Monet I think has learned from Bob as well and knows what to do going in. So I have high hopes. But if she gets eliminated early, it'll prove the point that like, you stick with your survivor, you stick with your, you know, housewife.

That's why we saw, we said there was no influencers this year, but it's like, okay, I'll probably go in next season. So, they should put other influencers with me. You know what I mean? We should have Tana, we should have like Shane. You know, there should be other influencers. You mean like a built-in alliance, yeah.

That's what I'm saying. You can't just go in as the only one because they're gonna get you out. Yeah, you're right. Because yeah because there are quite a few survivor, there are quite a few Bravo in general. I feel like Bravo usually sticks together. Yes. There's only one big brother, I think, in,

I'm curious who Donna Kelsey is gonna team up with. Michael Rappaport. No. Because they're older. I feel the older people, yeah. No British old people this time. I know. The quota has been reached, I guess.

I guess they don't need to do any more of that. That was crazy. Yeah, Stephen Coletti was very random to me. Who's that? He was, did you watch Laguna Beach? Oh, I mean, yeah. Who was he on there? Stephen.

Oh, like Kristen Stephen? Yes, like the love triangle Lauren Conrad Kristen, Stephen Coletti is. I see clips of like Stephen. Stephen? Yeah, like the love triangle Lauren Conrad Kristen, Steven Coletti. I see clips of like, Steven. Steven. Yeah, I remember I got it. Oh, what a throwback. So I guess he was in One Tree Hill.

But One Tree Hill ended a long time ago. So that was so random to me. They put that as his claim to fame? Yeah, I guess they wanted like a Dylan Efron type, like just a hot white guy, I guess. But no, no, it's not giving that. Well, maybe. I don't know.

I haven't seen him. OK, we'll see. seen him okay yeah we'll see what he brings yeah what would mine be would they put me in as Big Brother I don't know they would do Celebrity Big Brother or just Influencer I don't know I kind of would love to go in as a game player as Big Brother Yeah, I was also in Big Brother everybody. You're a mature gamer. Yeah. Me laying in bed the whole time. Oh, that's interesting.

OK, that'd be, is there any other random, like random assholes and that's like what? Eric is a singer. Eric? Eric who? Just as Eric. Oh, OK. The young guy.

Not that. Johnny, Olympic figure skater. Oh, Johnny Weir? Oh, I do love Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski. I love them together. Oh, they're both in? Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

That's not fair to not have one other queen is crazy. Yeah, it's like a built-in. They always have that. I noticed that from early stages. There's always someone you know. So it's like, why would they? Rob Rausch. Who's that?

From Love Island. Tar Yemi's friend. Oh, Tar Yemi should have been there then with him. Tar Yemi's friend is crazy. I don't think they put that as his little thing. Oh, that's how you know him. His lower third, yeah. But he's the only Love Islander, I guess.

So there are a few one-offs, but yeah, the Bravo and then Survivor groups are pretty stacked. They always win, because there's always like one Love Island person. There was a Love Island person last time that got off pretty early. It was like a girl and she got off. She was like really pretty and she was-

Oh, yeah, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, but she was eliminated early. So it's like, yeah, those big alliances tend to do it. Yeah, who are you rooting for you think for this kind of- Oh gosh, I mean mean I guess I love Monet. Maybe the only one I know right? Oh I love Johnny Weir. I'm rooting for Ron. Who's Ron? The comedian. That's your pick? All right well I don't know. How about you? I think Monet. Yeah. I think Monet, honestly, I'm very much into

Chani Weir and Tara Lipinski as a pair. And I love Natalie Anderson from Survivor. She has a twin, so people think that they might do a little twist where maybe they swap Natalie and Nadia in between and fool them or something. That'd be fun, a little twin twist. Yeah, or just Adam and Slowly. Who was the one, it's not Tara Lipinski, but it sounds like that, that like hit the girls' knee.

Tonya Harding. They said Tonya Harding. And who's the other one? Who got hit in the knee? God, why am I forgetting who that was? Gosh, Nancy Kerrigan. Yes. Yeah, they should have them in there. The rumor, cause there was, when the cast started leaking,

there was like inside stories saying there's one really controversial contestant that the internet is gonna be very upset about. And a lot of people thought Gypsy Rose, and it ended up being Michael Rappaport, but people were speculating Gypsy Rose. Honestly. Why were they promoting it like that?

First of all, Michael Rappaport is no Gypsy Rose, okay? Gypsy Rose is problematic, but kind of a queen. Michael Rappaport has nothing queen about, there's no iconic behavior about him. You know what I mean? Like, she's a mess, but we love to watch. Nobody wants to watch him. Honestly, in comparison, like,

would have preferred Gypsy for sure. A thousand percent, that's entertaining. I remember when he filmed for Wendy, I was like, get this old man off, because I didn't know his problematic history, but you can just tell. Like, you don't even need to just- There's something in there.

The way he talks. Yes. The energy, the way he talks. And that's who he said, I mean, that makes sense. And I don't want to accuse him of all that, but I was like, that makes sense because that's the vibe. And he's always given that vibe. So I don't know. What if they're going to tell him like there's topics

he can't talk about in the show. They probably censor him if he's friends with Andy Cohen. They probably try to make him look good, but it's like, oh, those kinds of people, you just know, know you're like and then they blame it on their age You know, it's a different generation. It's like well, let's keep that generation off then. I'm sure Travis. Tells his mom. Don't talk like that I'm sure she's a sweet Picture and I'm just wondering what if they make her a traitor that would be so funny That would be good. I don't know her Lord, but she seems kinda cool. She kinda seems cool. Yeah, she seems sweet.

She was wearing a Taylor Swift bracelet in her little promo. She said, I was like, oh, she's fierce. She's gonna have this Swiftie support. Oh, that part. I know, I wish it was fan-based voting. Yeah, at least there's no voting. Yeah, because that would be really unfair

to have the Swifties on her side. That's true, that's true, yeah. She can win the whole thing if she's a traitor and everyone else. I think so. She's so sweet. Yes. She's just a sweet little lady and The lady and the older ladies tend to like slide by like that you're so right I bet you they're gonna make her a freaking trader cuz like fager was a pretty good trader for that reason Not that she's like older, but she was like older, you know what I mean?

So it's like she's kind of sweet and you kind of were like, oh, she's like this like mom vibe Even Danielle I think from last season. She was like a grandma, right? So everyone's like, oh, she's a grandma. She's sworn her grandkids. She's like crazy. But yeah, I still cannot write my head around that they promoted it as controversial. People won't be happy thinking they're eating. They're gonna be like, oh, wow, it's gonna ruffle feathers up.

But everyone's just like, ew, they don't care. Like again, there's people who can ruffle feathers and we still kind of get for them. That's probably gonna blow him out so fast. I hope so. Like, Lee and Michelle would have been controversial, but people would have loved, you know what I mean? We're still like, but they can sing, you know?

It's like, Michael Rapport has no redeeming qualities. Cause either they'll make him a traitor and they'll vote him out or they won't and they'll still be like, you're a traitor, vote him out. I just, yeah, immediately. If I had that first task where boss and Rob comes in is like, one of you can eliminate someone right now

and put boss and Rob in, I would pick him. I'd be like, go. I would 100% when people don't pick someone off the bat, I guess they put themselves as a target, but I would 100% pick someone. I'm like, that person needs to go. It's so weird to me when people don't. Well, I'm excited, I guess.

I mean, I think it's, we love a traitor as always. I know. I have faith in Monet to do the work in getting Michael out really quick. I'm putting a lot of faith in Monet. No pressure, but. We also saw Bob be very vocal getting people out and he was hitting.

That's true. But then it puts a target. True. It's so hard. Yeah. And they don't get that culture, right? Like the Queen culture of just being like, you know, calling people out and reading and all that stuff like that. So it's like they misinterpret it as something else. Yeah. I'm

trying to think from this cast who would be like this straight man I wouldn't trust. I know that Housewives are gonna love Monet for sure. Actually no, because Dorinda and Bob the Drag Queen, I feel like went at it last season. That is so true, even in the finale, even at the reunion. Wasn't she already? That's what we said, yeah.

Yeah, she got eliminated first last time, but everyone thought of it as a grave injustice, so she's now, she's back. Is she the one that came for the hairstylist, or that's a different one? Which hairstylist? She went on Watch What Happens Live and she called out Chris Dillon by name.

You don't know Chris Dillon? Like she was basically like, this hairstylist, Chris Dillon stole money from me and it turned out like he didn't, he provided all the receipts and it was literally just like he invoiced her for a room and like, is that her? I don't know if that was her.

Or Dorit, they're two different people? Dorit and Dorinda are two different people, yeah. Type in Dorinda hairstylist or Dorit. One of them did it. It sounds like more of a Dorit thing to do, to be honest. Dorit. Yes, Dorit Kemsley hasn't paid her hairstylist makeup artist.

Yeah, she took four months to pay him, and then she accused him of stealing. Yes, no, that does make sense from what I know of Dorit. Yes. So Dorit does a different one? Yes, Dorit, she's from Real Housewives of New York. Dorit's from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Dorit's from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Got it.

Dorinda's just like a little firecracker. She's kind of messy. She was drinking a lot and then she got a little too messy, so I think that's why she had to take an indefinite hiatus from the show. But she has a lot of iconic moments. She goes like, clip it, clip it! You ever seen that?

No. Oh, okay. Sounds iconic though, I do love that. I loved your interpretation of it. It's kinda cute. She was famous for having all the housewives come to her home in the Berkshires and every time she would bring them over, usually be around the holidays, like Christmas,

and then it would be like a huge fight would happen because it was just like a mess. So that was her big, yeah. She the sprinkle cookie girl? I think so. OK. They're like, she brought me sprinkle cookies. Like that's what I don't watch the East Coast Housewives,

but I do see clips sometimes. And I'm always. And I think it might be her. But they all kind of also blend in. Or actually, that might be Real Housewives of New Jersey you might be thinking of. Which one did you say, New York? Yeah, she's in New York.

They do kind of blend together. Yeah. But I like Dorinda, so I'm happy she's back. She's back. Why don't you get to Monét again first? Damn. Monét, you have your chance to do something funny here. Especially because she did kind of come from Bobby

even at the reunion. At the reunion they were really going up, yes. That would be so sad. That's so funny, especially because you like, not only do you fly all that way to Scotland, but like the preparation, like I remember some people, who were other took me like three months

because you have to get like visas and you have to get the clothing, you have to get like everything. So like to be sent home first would be like awful. Uh huh. Like, I just came all the way over here. And how long do they film for? Like two weeks or something?

Two weeks. Yeah. Which is actually really fast. Yeah. It's just, but obviously like you said, the preparation. Yes. So it does take at least like a month of your life to like all together. Yeah. At least, because you do all that other stuff.

And then the press tour is like another month or so, yeah. I think the fun part though, I'm very sad I'm not on it. I guess they're filming right now. Yeah, I fear you would be too pregnant to be flying from a helicopter like Gabby Wendy did. Oh my God. Can you imagine Donna Kelsey doing that? I would love, that's so everything.

I haven't even thought about her doing the challenges. That's what's crazy to me. But even the season before, season two, like the older, and I say older, as in like I'm an older woman too, but it's like MJ and all those older women were doing the one walking across the cliff, remember? And I was like, I don't know if I could-

And they had a zip line and stuff, yeah. Zip line, I was like, I don't know if I could do that. Yeah. Like scary, like going down a cliff, I don't know. I just do that. Yeah. Scary, like going down a cliff. I don't know. I just would be so panicked. I guess this is a good thing. Because if Donna Kelsey is doing the challenges,

then you can definitely do the challenges. That's true. I can always see someone go before me. I'm like, OK, they can do it. I can do it. There were definitely challenges that were people set out, like they didn't do it. Like they waited back.

There was like a bug challenge where everyone sat out, like MJ and all the people, like, not doing this. Yeah. like a bug challenge where like everyone sat out like MJ and all the people like not doing this. Yeah. And didn't Gabby say when she was here something about like I were having to sit down when she was her partner from when I forgot. Because at the end of the day, those challenges are dumb. They need to give them in community because it's like for cash I'm sitting out. Sorry guys.

I know the cash pot or whatever. Yeah. That I might not even get like, well, what the hell? I don't care about that. Yeah. They need to do something different. Yeah, like make the stakes a little bit higher. That's our traders' input.

Yeah, that no one asked for. See how they changed this season. It's crazy they're filming now and it doesn't air until January. It's so far away. I know. I guess that's how they all work, but yeah, because announcing the cast so early, they kind of have to because I guess it would probably

leak or something anyway. So I might as well. Oh right, because they're filming. Yeah, because for Drag Race, those casts leak like a year in advance, because the fans see, okay, who's canceling their gigs? Who's going to be gone for this month when it's shooting? Even the, that's for all stars,

but even the regular seasons, people look at local queens who all of a sudden are not performing and like, oh they're gonna be, yeah. Because Colton Underwood posted yesterday for Father's Day, so I was like, how's he posting if he's in the castle? If he get eliminated first? You know what I mean?

Like you're just like, or someone posting. I know when I went and saw every big brother, someone took over for me, they were like posting, I had like a British management, they were posting for me. But I think they posted about me being in the house now that I think about it, I don't know. Well, wasn't it live, so. Oh, but they posted about me being in the house now that I think about it. I don't know. Wasn't it live so oh Yes, people already knew that I was in there

People that they call the costumes they know who goes on the show. Yeah true Oh, right, right. You have to get measured. I mean. They're spending thousands of dollars, tens of thousands of dollars on costumes. Yeah. That is so true. They can tell who's going. Maybe Mike White will be on as survivor for Traders next season. Ooh, you and Mike White on the same season would kind of be everything. I would love. I would take him out so no one would suspect me because they would think I'm the thirstiest to be on the show and I would take him out first. Just to prove a point. Yeah, just to be like how powerful. And I feel like he would respect it because he does love competition.

Yeah. Or he could hate you, it could go either way. He might respect it and cast you on White Lotus or he might like blacklist you so you never work again in Hollywood. Oh yeah. No, I know myself, I'd want to be his friend. I think Gabby said she followed Bob the Drag Queen around

like a little puppy. Oh yeah. That'd be me for sure. Just acting, just putting on a show every chance I get. Oh, whose alliance would you be in? Who did you say? Oh, you said Johnny Weir? Johnny Weir, but now that I think about it, I forgot about Colton Underwood being in there. Is he the one that like jumped walls to get out of his dates on Bachelor? I think that was him. Yes, that was him. Yeah. Um, okay, because there was, he had claims of stalking claims against his ex-girlfriend. Ex-girlfriend?

Yes, after, in 2020, so it was a long time ago. So people weren't mad about that. But at least, I mean, in contrast with like Michael Rapoport, it's like the, I always look at the pattern of behavior. Yes, and how recent, because I'm sure all those people have something. Yeah, Donna Cali, I'm sure there's something. something. Yeah, don't see I'm sure Don't cancel her do not cancel her Probably though. Maybe you want to go deep enough. I'm sure there's something I

Hope she wins. I Like older people on that show when I like that, I know Honestly, but like everyone would want the connections to like Travis And Taylor and so so. The it couple. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, if I'm an ally with Donna Kelsey, I get Aeros door tickets or what? Oh, Aeros part two. Yeah.

I love that. Taylor was at a hospital this weekend. Oh yeah, in Florida, Children's Hospital. Did she just show up or I don't understand how that works. Like she just shows up or what? I think she like clears it with the staff. Oh, okay. Like she plans it with the staff.

I love that. But it's a surprise to the kids, yeah. My god, that's so cute. I would love to do that. I just don't know if the kids would know who I am. Like I would love to go visit kids in the hospital, but I guess you have to have some sort of clearance first. You know what I mean?

Because the kids are like, wow, thanks. Yeah, I wonder if they get excited about, I guess Taylor Swift. That's true. Yeah. Who else did it? Probably JoJo back in the day. Kids love JoJo. I wonder if they get excited about like I guess Taylor Swift. That's true. Yeah Jojo back in the day kids love Jojo. I remember Tom Holland visited a Spider-man, which was so cute. Oh joined after that as Captain Jack Sparrow. Yeah I think Andrew Barfield did as Spider-man 2 or like the Avengers like Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. Like as their characters. I wish I had that influence. That'd be so cool

I guess if you you can go as the tavern, as the tavern. Nobody knows, no one even knows, I stopped doing it on TikTok, no one knows who that is. I wish I could be an iconic kids character, Blippi, Miss Rachel. I would love, oh my God. Dang. The thought is crazy though, you showing up and like.

Descends myself, they're like, we don't care. That's what I'm saying, wonder if like anyone can go do that or you have to get like special permission. I'm sure. Yeah. I'm sure it has to be something that's like, you know, I'm sure you could probably volunteer though for like, uh, yeah. Yeah. Just, um, who I would love to, I need to do that. I do need to volunteer more. That's my, yeah, I had a, this is so random, but I had a coworker. Um, I was, I had a co- this is so random, but I had a co-worker. Um, I was, I had to edit the overcompensating like interview footage. And for some reason the cast started asking her questions and I was kind of gagged. And I mean, she's in New York and I haven't even talked to her, but they were asking her like, oh, so where did you meet like your husband?

She was like, oh, we were volunteering. We were reading, um, to sick children and both volunteering and we met and fell in love. And I was like, wow, what a great story. So volunteering, if you're single and you're having trouble meeting a man, volunteer. Cause at least you know you're meeting a nice person. That is actually so true. Yeah, because people say meet at church,

we're like, oh the church these days. You know what I mean? Yeah, but meaning, right. Mostly all. Yeah, that's deep. But that is so true. You have to volunteer. Yeah, you do something good. And like you always say, you know, you put that energy so true. You'll meet someone. Yeah, volunteer.

Yeah, you do something good. And like you always say, you know, you put that energy out there, it comes back to you. Have you ever volunteered at like a dog shelter? I've volunteered at like dog and cat adoptions before. And also like a gay, in high school, in college for like, I think high school, for like, to get, to legalize gay marriage.

I had like, I volunteered to go door to door and campaign. I guess. Yeah. No way, what, did you have people sign? Yeah, or like register, or register to vote or something? It was like my senior year. And my- Does that work? I honestly don't remember.

I know we had to go to Pasadena, and I know me and my friend Rebecca went door to door and knocked on doors. I don't know how many signatures we got, but it passed. So I guess you're welcome. You were the forefront of that. I love that. That's pretty cool.

I didn't know that. I didn't know about you. Yeah, I feel like that's very you to do. I would love to do that. I should do that more though. Yeah, especially these days. Collect signatures, especially if it helps. But can you just go up to people's houses anymore?

Yeah, but you never know what you're gonna get, you know? On both ends, too. I don't know if I'd open my door, because it's like- I never open the door. Yeah, I don't know if I trust anyone. Even Girl Scout cookies, they used to go door to door, but I think now you just get them at Ralph's or something like that.

Yeah. Are they out now? No. I feel like I haven't seen them right now. I saw them maybe last year, it was last time I saw them, but yeah. I love Girl Scout cookies. Actually, maybe it was a couple months ago.

I forget, but I know there was like a thing for Girl Scouts where it was like, it was online. I saw it was like for girls who like they were having, I think there were like minorities and like they weren't getting enough, like people buying their cookies. So people got together to promote their links to buy Girls' House from them. That was so cute.

I do love that. I know, I wonder that with social media, is do people cheat now if they're like, parent has a lot of followers or something? I feel like they do. Like, Malibu's are selling cookies. I'm like, everyone buy these cookies. This link right here.

It's like a million dollars for the Girl Scouts. It's not really fair, right? I feel like no. Yeah, because even my aunt, she doesn't really know much, her, my cousin don't know much about like social media and stuff. And then they entered like this contest for like babies, like a cute baby photo competition. I don't know what the hell it was to be honest.

It seemed kind of, it was on Facebook. They kind of, it felt like a scam to me to be honest. They're like, oh, can you like promote this? And I was like, honestly, that feels unfair if I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, did you do it? No. That's how I feel too.

Yeah. I think there's been influencers who've done that. I'm like, I don't know about that. Me either. I'm like. Because the bottom line is raising money, so if you help raising more. But there's a competition within the Girl Scouts,

whoever raised the most gets prizes and stuff like that. Right, but the competition purpose is to raise more. I don't know. So this should take away the prize. Yeah, if it was just for like charity. Yeah. And no like personal incentive, then. Yeah. Yeah, that's different.

You got the most money raised. It's like, it shouldn't be a competition. Becky. I do love Girl Scout cookies out there. First, they all let me know. I never I always miss them. I never know when they're. Did you ever try the Girl Scout cookie body wash

and deodorant? That was something fierce though. I did not like it. Where, at Target or where? I forget what brand it was. I know I saw it at Target and I was excited about it at first because it was like, oh, I love Girl Scout cookies. And then I went to go sniff them and I was like,

oh, this is diabolical. I didn't want to wash in a thin mint. Honestly, yeah. For some reason I thought it was going to be good because I love a sweet scent, but these were like- To wash them? No. These were like next level.

Like these were just intense. I need a dial soap. What do you use? I use Eos body wash. Eos? Yeah. Oh, like the- Yes, the circle lip balm.

But now we have- Bougie. Is it bougie? I think so. That's fancy. That was $1.79. It's cheap. That's fancy. Seven bucks. Dial is a $1.79. It's cheap. That's fancy.

Oh my gosh. Yeah, I do like EOs because of my lotion is also it. So I like to layer. Have the all of it together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try dial. It's so good. It's so clean.

It just feels like sterile. It always has sold out when I go to my CVS. They use that for the baby ducks, right? Is that what they use for the, oh no, Dawn. Dawn. Dawn is the ducks. Should try that too. Right, I remember they did that.

I think in Saved by the Bell they did that. They tried to save the ducks by washing them with the dish soap. Work, yeah. But I think they ended up killing them. They were dying because of it. Yeah, you remember that episode? The soap?

Yes. I haven't never seen Saved by the Bell, but I think- What? I think, Dawn, I think- You've never seen Saved by the Bell? I think the dish soap works for saving the ducks in the oil spills. Something happened. They type in the ducks saved by the bell. They definitely ended up passing away the next day they came back. They were trying to help them and then all the ducks

died. I don't I'm confused about this plot line to be honest. No I just remember they're like we're gonna clean the ducks and then the next day the ducks were dead. And I was like, what the hell happened? Okay, I don't think the dawn just killed them. Well, I don't know, dawn, but they cleaned them. And I remember they were like, it was like not good for them or something like that. And then they all band together. They all wanted this new and improved Bayside high school.

But that meant putting like oil rigs and the oil rigs are spilling on the ducks. And then, yeah. That is in this little description. Okay. And then afterwards they refused the drilling, the oil drillings are spilling on the ducks. Yes. That is in this little description. Okay. And then afterwards they refused the drilling, the oil drilling I guess. Because the ducks died.

Yes. Yeah. And maybe the oil killed the ducks. Becky the duck died from sticky black goo. They brought her in and there was nothing that could be done. I don't think the soap, I think the oil killed Becky the duck.

Maybe. I think that, if I'm not wrong, that could have been the one. That makes more sense to me. Yeah, I can't even I've never seen Tim. You grew up in California. Was it not popular?

No, well, maybe I was too young when it came out. It's a pretty old show. But reruns, my sister watched it. She's like your age. Honestly, I never trusted that Mario Lopez and I think I was on the right side of history. What is happening with that? With him?

Yeah. I know he, he, he did something with the Tate brothers recently before they got re-rested or whatever. But did you see this morning? No. He got like served papers. Oh, no I didn't see that. Oh, and it's like, they're like,

but people were like saying like you can't serve people by like, they're trying to give it to him. He's there shirtless by his gate. He ignores them. Then the person like throws the papers in the gate and then else is filming and some said you're not allowed to film if you're Serving people and everyone's asking grok. I don't know what grok is but it's on Twitter. I was at rock Why is he being served grok is coming up with who knows what he's making sure grok had different things like different It was crazy. So I mean, I don't know what happened. Is that like? But people always are filmed being served.

Oh, okay. So that's what I'm saying. Grok doesn't know because Grok was like, oh, we can't film people being served. Grok is the AI on Twitter. He's giving a lot of different answers. Why do all these things get served? You see it?

Yeah, I don't know what. Mario Lopez served my $10 million defamation lawsuit today. Is he work for, someone said NBC was suing him. Yeah, he works for NBC. Is he still? Someone else told me, I don't know if it's true, he was off for two weeks, he's been gone for two weeks.

Oh, I don't know, I haven't kept up. Wait, so why were you saying you don't trust Mario Lopez? I thought this was the whole tie-in, no, it was something else. Oh, no, I just hadn't, I always had a weird feeling about him. Really? Yeah, ever since I thought this was the whole tie-in, no, it was something else. Oh, no, I just hadn't, I always had a weird feeling about him. Really?

Yeah, ever since I saw him on the show, when I saw clips of him on the show, I was like, mm, this gives me weird vibes. Okay, I think most people kind of agree. I don't know, I don't know much about him, but he's always hosted Extra for like 20 years or something, hasn't he? He's been like that host forever.

Yeah, he doesn't access Hollywood now. Oh, he switched. Yeah, he switched. When I left, I think he switched. Downgrade? Um, I don't know. I think same grade. Is he still standing outside the Grove? Um, no, no. They should have near on the universal block. So I guess upgrade in that sense. Oh, love that. How does he interview people? They come to him. I I mean you've been to access It's like there where you came but I don't really like that's like back a lot adjacent Yeah, I want to be on the back lot like by desperate housewives with serial lane. That's where okay. Yeah adjacent well

Guess not working there anymore. I don't know either. Oh, I'm trying to see this. I thought the day everyone's talking about it I just thought that in Twitter. Yeah, but there's no articles about it right now, so I don't know either. Oh, I'm trying to get to see this. I saw the day everyone was talking about it. I saw that on Twitter. Yeah, but there's no articles about it right now, so I don't know what the deal is. You are ahead of it with the Mario Lopez. I thought that was your transition in the 90s. No, that was just a gut feeling. So you didn't watch Day by the Bell? No, I didn't.

That's crazy. What was the other one around that? California Dreams. Never watched that. I didn't even watch 90210 or anything either, were they the same time? Yeah, I never watched, no, 90210 was a little, I don't know, I didn't watch 90210 either.

Did you watch Family Matters? I don't think so. With Urkel? I think I would, ended up watching it on, free, it's called, I think it's free form now, ABC Family, when they would do like the old block. Oh yeah, yeah. It was like Full House.

Family Matters. Yeah. Which speaking of Full House, Candice Cameron Bray. Sugarred. She is wild to me. I'm sorry. She is wild. A little crazy. I think I told most about this. It wasn't even hot to have told about this last week. I was like, this is, she's nuts. She refuses to watch any scary movies because she said that you are opening up a portal. She said if you're watching a scary movie or even playing a video game, the portal could let stuff inside of your home. Girl. She said, I don't even want someone watching a scary movie in our house on the TV. To me, it's just a portal.

And she said, I'm in the film industry. I understand how it all works. I know that movie specifically has a crew of 200 people and they're lighting it and adding the sound effects and it's makeup and camera people and actors. However, there's still something that can be incredibly demonic while they've made it. Film industry is pushing it.

I don't know how many films Candace Cameron, besides Hallmark movies. I don't know if that counts. Lifetime movies. I don't know if she's really in the mix of it. Also spoken like a true demon because what do you mean there's a portal? How do you know all this unless you're a demonic yourself?

Like, you know, there's no demons in my house. You know, I mean, yeah, I get it. Scary movies are scary, except that one. That, that maybe. I'm with her on there, but she's, she's cuckoo because there was one more part to it too. It was, ow, there was something like one step further that she said. Is there more?

I only had that clip and then she talks to her pastor and the pastor said that like the actresses, even if they're like, if they're playing a witch, they usually research witchcraft and they end up becoming real witches. Well, first of all, witches rule, okay? Witches have been here before religion, okay? Wiccans the original religion, so, okay. God, there was one thing, remember I told you about Candice Cambray saying something else?

It was one other thing beyond the scary movie. Oh, Liquid Death. Oh yes, I did see that, I did see that. It was one other thing beyond the scary movie. Oh liquid death Liquid death Emma girl, what are you on? Just the name alone brings out my what are you? Literally, are you on something? This is why I don't trust Religious people too much. Okay. I love God's spirituality Buddhism I love it all but people who like our church and like very like, the church says this and we're anti this, that's giving me demon vibes because every deity

I studied doesn't say anti anything. They're never like no gaze at the Buddha's house. No, you know what I mean? Like she's like a different level and it's giving demonic. And then when I saw the liquid death, I was like, BFFR, you know? Like it was just, it was so weird. And the other guy was like, BFFR, you know? Like, it was just, it was so weird. And the other guy was like agreeing with her.

I was like, it's- Part of this podcast. Oh my, yeah. I'm like, who's cheating? Who's seated for this podcast? That's what I was thinking. Who was? Watch her win it for me or something. Oh my God, no, no one's winning it on me,

especially not Candice Cameron Bray. I think she's one, she's one celebrity I would love to see just, you know, maybe exit the spotlight. Like her brother did that, her too, Kirk Cameron. Exit the spotlight. He was a to see just maybe exit the spotlight. Her brother did that, Kurt too. Kurt Cameron. Exit the spotlight. He was a little cuckoo with the religion. He was so nuts.

It's like, I get it. Okay, but also it's always the religious ones. Not to bash religion too much because again, I do love, I love Jesus. I love God. I feel like Mark Wahlberg. It's always those that are just a little extreme Shia LaBeouf. He became extreme Catholic. Again, I grew up Catholic, not knocking the religion, but just some of the people in it. It's always like those that are just a little extreme Shia LaBeouf. Yeah. He became extreme Catholic.

And again, I grew up Catholic, not knocking the religion, but just some of the people in it use it as this weird shield to be like judging others. Yeah. So I don't think Jesus would judge. And you know what? How I know this, because the AI Jesus does not judge. He's like, hey, chat, not judging, but Mary Magdalene came to my doorstep. And he's just like, cool. I'm like, they're not that cool. You know what I mean? Yeah.

There is a disconnect. I'm a team Jojo on this one. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah, there is a disconnect. I'm gonna team JoJo on this one. Yeah, this is why she'll never be on the JoJo Siwa Now podcast. But JoJo, you and I could team up against her because honestly, her and Michael rap before it, they should just be banished to an island. Private island. Mr. Beast's private island.

Yes. Mr. Beast was in a JLo video. Mariah Carey. Mariah Carey. I'm dead at that mix up. I knew it was something. Okay. Yeah. But how? Was it real? Because I just saw the little clip of him, but it looked like almost AI, like him. It doesn't look weird. He was just vendors and the makeup was...

Because we just mentioned Hood Beast. That's what I'm saying. Was it Hood Beast in there? Yeah, it was Hood Beast. Benders and like the we mentioned who'd be And it's nothing had to do with Forknight it was supposed to be like a fortnight skin of hood beast. So that's why it looks Oh, so it wasn't him. It was like a skin. I it was him. I don't know. It was weird It looked kind of like AI but I think it was maybe him but made to look like Mariah know your audience And no one wants mr. Beast in your video. No know I think the problem is her son is a streamer and yeah her son's her son seems very sweet for sure but he is in the streaming world so I think maybe her son was like oh you should definitely get Mr. Beast. Oh no. I know but her daughter is a girly because

she loves like Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina and like all that stuff. So we need her to step up and be like, no mom. Yeah, let's collab with Sabrina and not with. Yeah. Yeah, not big yikes. I was like, not Mr. Beast. That's like David Dobrik appearing in like a Britney Spears video or something like that. I would die.

Oh my God. The craziest part was the director, Joseph Kahn, tweeted there's gonna be an internet shattering surprise in the new Mariah Carey video. And then all the lambs were like, this was it? And the lambs were not happy. Yikes. Also shout out Joseph Kahn, who directed me in the Eminem music video.

Oh, gee, yeah. Yes, we love him. I love that, that was still directing. He's so iconic. Wild. It is giving traitors, being like, we have someone so explosive this season. It's like, I'm like, okay.

Literally anyone else with that. Okay, well, you know, it's probably impactful. Did it help views? I don't know. I don't know either. Did he promote it that much? I don't know. Yeah, does his fans,

okay, we don't watch Mariah Carey. That's true. Are the Beasters gonna go stream Mariah Carey? No, it's the worst crossover because nobody that likes Mariah Carey know who Mr. Beast is. Yeah. Yeah, and the ones that do don't want him in there. We're like, well, we don't want to watch this Mariah. nobody that likes Mariah Carey know who Mr. Beast is. Yeah. Yeah.

And the ones that do don't want him in there, we're like, well, we don't want to watch this Mariah. And I love Mariah. I think she's iconic. Yeah. Love Joseph Kahn, too. But I don't know if that was the move. Who would we have casted in Mariah Carey video

that everyone would have gagged for? Vanilla Mace. I fear, yeah, she would have ate that up. That would have been so. Her opening up a little la boo boo in the back. Oh my god, that would have been the moment. That would have been everything. You know?

Addison can get on it. Next music video, cast Vanilla Mace. Yeah, gee. I think that'd be so good. I would have cast her if I had another music video. I don't know if any amount of money could get her because I know she's booked in busy. Send her back. Damn, you're right.

Vanilla Mace and Mariah would have been everything across over the century. That's why I need her daughter to step up and be like, come on, mom. This is where it's at. The kids of the celebrities nowadays really are the tastemakers, which I love. I really do think that's the only reason

Gerard Way even knew who I was because of his daughter. Oh, yeah, that's what she, oh, yeah. I was like, I think that's, and that's what I like to see, you know what I mean, where it's like, hmm. And like Apple Martin probably telling Gwyneth about you, I assume. I love Apple, don't know if Gwyneth would love me. I love her, we love her.

Wait, Lisa Rinna would freaking team up with you because her daughters love you. That's true. Well, they did 10 years ago on Real Housewives. I don't know if they still do. No, I think they still do. Really? I haven't seen anything lately. I'm pretty sure. I think Harry Daniels told us like last year that they still like Amelia. Really? Oh. And Delilah, right? Is that the name? Yes. Love them both. Yeah, because Amelia, I think she's the one that's always with Gabrielle, Charlie XCX's friend, and Harry Daniels' friend's with Gabrielle. So I think that's me tying the loose ends together.

Love that. Well, I do love Lucirina. I am excited to see her, because to me, she's not even a housewife. To me, she's like an actress. She was like on Melrose Place, and I feel like I know her from that kind of stuff. And she's messy. I think she'll be purposely Melrose Place. And I feel like I know her from that kind of stuff. And she's messy.

I think she'll be like purposely just a mess. So I think that's fun. I know it's hard to say in those situations. I know I would think I would be a mess on that show, but I know I also am like a wallflower when it comes to like, I'm intimidated by other people a lot, you know? So I feel like I might blend in. I don't know.

But I think when you see the cameras and then your little Scottish outfit and then Alan Cummings is there that you would turn it on too. I feel like I might be more scared. Like I think when you see the cameras and then your little Scottish outfit and then Alan Cummings is there that you would turn it on too. I feel like I might be more scared. Like I think I might like be like, oh I'm an imposter, like why am I here? Although I could go into like an accent, you know?

A character study. Yeah, like hello, what are we doing today in the castle? Oh my god, B, you as the tavern maid in Traders. Oh, I would just wear that outfit the whole day. Actually, that's so good because I do a little Scottish. Yeah. It's kind of an amalgamation of a lot of different. I can see her walking out. She's a trader and she walking out to the room

with the gown because she's just in character so much. In the trader gown or the tavern gown? The trader because it's kind of the same. I want to be an accent. Okay, if I go on the show, I want to be in an accent the whole time. That'd be so fun. Just keep switching it up. Oh my God.

That's my time to shine. Next season. Oh God, I hope they get picked up for another season because they were only picked up for four or so. Oh, really? Yeah. I feel like it has to get picked up again. Don't you think?

It's so popular. But then as Alan coming back, he might ask for more money. I wouldn't do it if he wasn't the host. I would hate to go over there. And it's like, that happened to me my freshman year of high school, no, sophomore year of high school. I joined the golf team because the teacher was really hot

and then he got replaced by an old lady. He was a hot young teacher and then literally, it was this old old lady, like Lydia, 65, 70 year old lady teaching us how to golf and I was like, it's not what I signed up for. My parents won't let me quit, or my mom. Yeah. So you were stuck playing golf? I played golf, you can Google that,

I'm in the golf team. You can see our teacher, she was sweet, but also not hot. And if you Google the teacher the year before, he was like a really hot teacher. And I think that would happen on the Traders. It's like I finally get to be there, and then it's like, oh no,

be it Carolyn Ray or something hosting. She hosted everything, do you know her? No. Oh my gosh, she hosted Biggest Loser. She was on Sabrina, the Teenage Witch. Like she was- Oh, I love her, the blonde lady. Yeah, I love her too, but it's, you know, I don't wanna like, she'd be the one instead of,

you know, I don't know. Who was it? Who was I thinking of? Oh no. I thought I thought Billy Porter on Traders, but he's he's doing Hunger Games. Love that. Love him.

That was great. I know for some reason I saw it as like a Traitors thing. Oh, someone was asking about the Traitors, like why all their portraits are so bad. I was wondering that too. I have always hated the portraits. It looks like they're taken on an iPhone like and then weirdly photoshopped. Yeah, but they're always like a weird up close angle or like this. It is weird. Someone said it's the ones they submit for casting, but they all are shot the same way. So I don't think so.

No, I feel like the same day they're doing the little promo videos, they're shooting that. Yeah, which is so weird. So ugly. Oh man, Trader's Casting News, my favorite. Zoe Saldana saying her Oscar identifies as they, them and his trans. This was the same day we were talking about our Labooboos. Yeah. And what they identify as. saying her Oscar identifies as they, them, and is trans.

This was the same day we were talking about our Labooboos. Yeah. And what they identify as. Okay, well. I feel like I was, I get why everyone was so upset because also like the controversy around Amelia Perez, but I feel like this is something that you would end up saying. I feel like my Oscar identifies as.

That's what I'm saying, our Labooboos were going there. I was trying to figure out, because you mean it sincerely. Well, I don't know if you mean it sincerely. I meant mine sincerely, because you just don't know. You don't want to ever offend people, especially the Labooboos are so big in queer culture. You don't want to offend. Yes.

You know what I mean? And they do have, with Labooboos, there is lore where the little ones are girls. So it is a little confusing. Oscar, however, I guess it's never been stated. I guess you assume the name, but you shouldn't do that. I don't know. I wonder, I think because,

I think because Amelia Perez was very tone deaf, that is why, like everyone was already upset that it was nominated for so many Oscars. Everyone was pretty upset that she won, even though her performance was good, but it's just like the movie, the songs, everything around it was so bad. The singing was atrocious.

Yeah, the music was. Yeah. Yes, and the fact that even Glad had to issue a statement saying this was not good trans representation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, so you probably should just avoid stoking those flames, so to speak. Right, right, right, right.

I'm with you there. I also feel like maybe she just thought, okay, this whole movie's problematic, I just need to join in. I just need to also sink this shit further. Like, let me just also say some, because it's a wild thing to say so long after. Why did you say that?

Who did you say it to? Was it clipped? She was at the LA premiere of Elio which is the new Disney Pixar movie and she got asked about her Oscar win. She said we have it in my office and my Oscar is gender fluid before adding that it is trans. Okay that's where she lost me. I love a gender fluid. Yeah you you could I feel like if she just Because also it's not like she like she got asked like oh what is your Oscar identify as right? Just go ask like where she keeps it I know like

She got caught up in pride mom. She's like, let's just And I love that. I love the representation. I love the energy again. It's almost like intentions probably gone, but just like couldn't read the room. Right, right, right. Or the vibes. How old is she? She's like our age, my age.

46. Oh, she looks great. Yeah, she does look amazing. Right, so give that, that's like older millennial, like, you know, she means well, me too. Me at pride, honestly. Me to say. You at pride. Everyone have your poppers.

Oh, just, it's okay to be gay. I was like, okay, you just shout things you don't really know, you know, attentions are good, yes, but, you know, well, period. Well, I just think, yeah, doesn't need to go into the detail. Yeah, I think, to not even be asked like what is your mom's criteria? She just wanted to say it. She's supporting. I think yeah she obviously

meant well she's probably proud of the fact that yeah she's like no I'm still you know supporting the trans community but I know when you send me stuff on Twitter it really is us all the time. Literally everything is so us. The other one was like out eating a Zempic, gaining weight on it. Oh, Tracy Morgan. Tracy Morgan. Today you sent me one that was like, I wish, what was it like? I spent my year skinny thinking I was fat and now I'm fat thinking, or something like that.

Yeah, now I'm actually fat. Yes. Yeah, honestly. I know. When I look back, I'm like, God, what do we want? Oh, reality house. I was like, my body was so good. And I really did think I was so fat back then too.

And it was teeny, you were so teeny. I know, well, it's okay. That's the moral of the story. So the younger, don't learn from our mistakes and just embrace your body where it's at right now. Even now, think about us when we're like 70. True. And we're gonna wish we had these bodies.

Yep, you spelled so true, queen like 70. True. We're gonna wish we had these bodies. Yep, you spilled. Yeah. So true, queen. Thanks. Yeah. Love that. Going back to the gay came out. Chassie Gay Best Friend.

I love it, I love. I know, when you were talking about that, I was like, you should say that to me. Like, wasn't feeling that doughnut queen. I like it. It's a good character, I like it. That's you on Traders. Honestly, yeah, my defense mechanism is being like, I do fall back on that.

Like as a, cause you can't be mad at just like a, you know, of course. That's a good one to fall back on though. That is a good one. Yeah. It is like, I was, when I was talking to Austin about this, he was saying how, like when he tries to be funny, a lot of the times he has to like edit it out of his podcast because like, he doesn't be funny, a lot of times he has to like edit it out of his podcast because like he doesn't want it being taken out of context.

I'm like, damn, you do have to think about that when you're an attractive gay. Because you don't, I can be cutesy and say stuff that he can't. Yeah. That is so true. I feel like that with like attractive girls too and stuff like that, you know, it's like they can say,

can't say something. You know what I mean? Like I can, you know, cause I'm like a, an ogre, in a cute way, in like a Shrek way. Not in ogre, but. I hate Shrek, I know. I don't like Shrek. When people say that as like a compliment, I was like, there's no compliment there.

Even Fiona Shrek, I don't like it. Ogres aren't bad. Not awful. Didn't you just audition for the new Shrek? Wasn't that your little audition? That's right. Is there a new, oh right. Was Zendaya, but you have probably.

Oh, she is trans, a trans ogre in that one, right? I think people, there's a fan theory that she is cause the baby's eyes from Shrek 3 are the same, are from, are the boy, the boy baby ogre have brown eyes and she has brown eyes. Oh, I see. But the girl had blue eyes. So how did that? I think they had the consistency in the girl had blue eyes. Oh, they're like blue.

I think they have the consistency in the eye color. Just a conspiracy, they're not confirmed. It's just not confirmed, yeah. Love that. Well, you know, Oscars at the end of the day are not anything, they're non-existent, so. True. Again, I don't think you need to,

I thought about that, the Labooboos. I mean, I guess we don't need to like, identify them, they're really not breathing. It makes more sense. Labooboos makes more sense, yeah. Yeah. They do have genders in the lore. Oscars are just kind of, it's just like a trophy.

It's not like a character. Labooboos are actual characters. So that makes more sense. That's true. People hate the Labooboo talk, but Cher had a Labooboo on her back. So I think they're officially taking over. People are like, let's Labooboo talk.

I was like, OK. I told you it's the pendulum. I know. Sabrina Carpenter, Labooboo, everyone's gettingooboo talk. I was like, okay. I told you it's the pendulum. I know. Sabrina Carpenter, Labooboo, everyone's getting it. Everyone's getting it. And I knew it was coming. I knew from the jump it was coming. Well, what is happening over there?

So loud. What are you eating? I know, oh my God, not to be John. I literally just felt like John and Kate right there. Oh my God, I felt like Kate Gosselin. When he is breathing, she goes, what are you doing? And he's like, nothing. She's like, no, you're breathing. You're like...

I think she was like, can you please breathe? Like, can that be so loud? Yeah. She's like, that was... Oh my God, that was me. So sorry. I caught myself being... What were you doing?

What were you digging for? I didn't like to know that. Are you going to show something as a hot topic? No. You are. Not at all. There's a gag coming in there. Can you feel it? Your hand is holding something. It's for me. Is it topic? No. You are. Not at all. There's a gag coming in there, can you feel it? Your hand is holding something.

It's for me. Is it chocolate? No. He's gonna show something soon, I have a feeling, I know it. He's waiting for the moment. JoJo Siwa reacted to Miley Cyrus' joke that we talked about.

Oh, yes, I did see this. Yes. Did we not talk about this? No, we talked about, at the time we only saw Miley's joke, not JoJo's response to Miley's joke. Oh, we were always like just, it must have been right after. Like a couple hours, yeah,

we were still a couple hours behind, but that's okay. But yeah, Miley Cyrus made a joke that she was gonna go back in the closet and find JoJo Siwa at World Pride. At World Pride? Yeah, it must have been not the day. I didn't know why they were there. Yeah. Yeah. June 7th. What day were you there? The 8th? June 6th. I didn't know she was supposed to be on there. I don't think she performed. I think she just did a little spoke. It was a video, right? Yeah. Oh god, I got it.

And yeah, so she made a joke at World Pride and then Jojo responded. And this was a few days later. She replied on June 12th. She said, I was happy on my fifth birthday having a Miley themed party and I'm still happy now at 22. I wasn't sure how I felt about things for a couple of days, but I started to come to some thoughts. I don't believe what Miley said at World Pride was ill intended.

Honestly, I think it was meant to be a joke, but not a very good one. And she said that while she understood that it was a joke, that it probably should have stayed in the draft, she said, not what the world and myself needs to hear any day of the week. I messaged Miley lightheartedly about it, and she replied and said, all love, always. I think that's a good response from JoJo. I like that she thought about it.

It wasn't like that, you know. Yes, reactive. Yeah, especially at 22. I feel likejo. I like that she thought about it. It wasn't like, uh, you know Yeah, especially at 22. I feel like it's some growth, right? Love it. I do love it. Yes, I think and she's probably right, you know what I mean? Like the jokes whatever I wish she would keep the same energy for some of her friends in life and not just coline but like Todrick, you know like some of these friends that are Done some dubious things. She like defends them so hardcore that have like really hurt people. And then she makes these really great statements about, yeah, jokes that could be hurtful,

but it's like, where was that same energy for people? Oh, I see, yeah. Do you know what I mean? And not only does she not speak out against people doing like harmful things, but she like, I guess I always think about her like victim blaming everybody and again, not just the Colleen situation, but I'm like, where is that energy for your like friends

who you should be holding accountable, right? Cause you care about them, you want them to do better, you want the world to see them better, and I think you do them a disservice when you don't call them out, and meanwhile you're like, everyone else is lying. So I know it was a couple years ago, but she always has this energy for celebrities and jokes,

and again, love it, keeps the same energy for her influencer friends. Yeah, that's a good point, not just when it serves you, you know, you have to have, because that's what it feels like, like when someone, when she has like, when she is personally affected by it, she can like speak up. Yes. Especially when you have a big brand

and you're a big platform, like you still have the, you should keep that same energy for things that you aren't personally affected by as well. Yes, and like, you know, obviously when a lot of people are affected by it, stand up for it even if it's your friend. Be empathetic, yeah. Yeah, so I don't love that. That's my only, only beef with Georgia.

So it does make, it just bothers me because it's like, oh, I do love that she stands up for little things like this. It's like, yes, it's little, but also it is important to be like, yeah, it hurts this, you know. I'm still, yeah, her queer identity being, like it's being erased

I get that like why so stand up for them? Yeah, so I think she put the energy for so many people she could be like this little activist warrior that everyone loves But when you don't keep that same energy for your friends and actually victim blame other people I just is something that I've held on to for too long and I just am like, well, hopefully she's grown. It's been a couple years but You know, yeah, or Abby Lee she's grown. It's been a couple of years, but you know. Yeah. Or Abby Lee is another one that she defends a lot. And I'm like, so many girls have been like, I feel victimized by her and always just being like,

no, that's not true, cause that didn't happen to me. You know, like those kinds of things. That's my only thing. And I get it. Look, I also can be very hypocritical, JoJo. So I'm like, I'm with you. I'm just trying to tell you where I get a little lost. Love that you speak out for yourself as you should,

but you're also very influential and everyone's talking about you, so I think you could also do that for other people, including Abby Lee's victims, which there's a lot of. A lot of girls are like, Abby Lee tortured me mentally and mentally abused me. I did DM Nia and I was like, you wanna come on the podcast?

Cause I'm so, I so need to know her story of it all. You know? But kudos JoJo for speaking out. And I love that she DMed Miley. I love that Miley said, like text her back. I get it. Cause it is so easy. I mean, I'm sure I did too.

Like we went two weeks ago and probably said something about something about her, but you know, it's easy jokes, but jokes can hurt. Yeah. And especially when you like idolize a person too, I totally feel what she's saying. The fact that she showed the picture from her like fifth birthday. I know when you idolize a person too, I totally feel what she's saying. The fact that she showed the picture from her fifth birthday.

I know. When you're like a stan of someone, you're like, oh damn, it hurts a little bit more. Yeah. Even though of course, Marley is like, I mean, she's Pan herself, so I think she definitely understands the queer spectrum. It was a joke for sure.

Yeah. Jordan didn't like it, and she spoke out about it. Yeah. I think at least, like last week we talked about how maybe she'll look at her childhood differently when her brain develops. Yeah, she said that, right? Yeah, she said that.

Now she waited a few days to craft a response that was very eloquent and well put. So I feel like we're seeing growth. Yeah, when she's 21. Post-big brother, 22, yeah. So much growth, I know, I think about that. I was like,'re seeing growth. Yeah, when she's 21. Post Big Brother, 22, yeah. So much growth. I know, I think about that. I was like, oh God, like nobody, like what?

Like the David Dobrik when I knew him at 22, he would never. You know what I mean? Yeah. We're seeing, it's a trajectory, I think. And let's celebrate that. You know what I mean? Let's, you know, people like to be really critical. And I get, she is, there's some criticism not invalidating that.

But I think she is learning. She some criticism, I'm not invalidating that, but I think she is learning. She is very, really, really young. Child star syndrome, like the sympathy people have for other child stars, I feel like they should still have for JoJo, because she is also very much a child star. Oh, for sure. And like a very crazy one, because it was like reality show. And it's like, yeah, her child startup was a weird path.

Yeah, and very blurred lines to... What's real, what's fake, are you acting, are you performing? Which part of this is performance, which isn't. Like, there's a lot to work through. No, it's so concerning. It'll always be the most concerning that she doesn't think like Abby Lee,

that Abby Lee is the reason she's successful, and it's like so bizarre to me. I was like, Abby Lee was a monster. I called out my own crowd at Philadelphia when they started chanting Abby Lee. I was all like, oh no, like, mm-mm, not Abby Lee was a monster. I called out my own crowd at Philadelphia when they started chanting Abby Lee. I was all like, oh no, like, not Abby Lee. There's nothing, again, there's nothing queen about it.

Honestly, honestly, now that I think about it, okay, if someone's like, we're gonna ruffle feathers this season on the Traders, and it was Abby Lee, okay, kind of a serve, right? Because there are people that love her, and she's polarizing. Michael Robbport's not Abby Lee, you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing redeeming about him.

I don't think there's anything redeeming about Abby Lee, but I get that there's a fandom behind her. Michael Raport? Where's the Michael Raport fans? Sorry, it still bothers me so much that he's on there. Like, why? That's so weird. Like, what?

Put the O-Wan on there or something if you want someone controversial. Isn't he? I don't know. My dad brought him up this weekend. want someone controversial. I don't know. Isn't he? I don't know. My dad brought him up this weekend. I was like, I don't know. People really seem to love him. I don't know either.

Oh, they do. I think. I don't know. I heard he had like, I don't know. I thought he had someone controversial on recently. I have no idea. He always has controversial people though, I think. People love him.

But I think people still love him. I don't really know. I don't know either, actually. He's a man, so it's a lot easier as we know. That's so true. A man with a mullet and a southern accent. They're like, we love him. A man especially plays the middle a little bit.

I feel like he gets away with a lot because he's kind of a piece of both groups I guess. Okay, no hate. Someone else who called out a little encounter was Doja Cat. Have you seen the Doja Cat? Yes. Yes, oh I wanna talk about this all over yes oh my god it's

i want to talk about this one too oh i'm excited i'm excited for moses's take on this i know this was a hot topic for you you didn't mention it all weekend it was because it was horrible okay oh my god what a king okay um i got i'll set it up moses i'll tee you up and then yes you do the best setups um so there was a video that went viral a couple weeks ago on June 6th. I remember when I saw this. I instantly was like, this is kind of weird. But Pablo Tamayo, he's a TikToker, met Doja Cat outside of a party, I believe in West Hollywood, and said that he, in this TikToker, he says, I'm about to give my shirt to Doja Cat because she's the iconic girl. And he pulls off his tank top and he gives it to her

because she had complimented it. And it says, hot boys kiss boys, which like love the sentiment. Yeah, we love it. And in the TikTok, like they exchange names, they hug. She says, nice to meet you. He says, I hope you have the best night. And he grabs her arms and like flings her around

and hugs her really tight and gives her like a kiss on the cheek. And even in the moment, like people were like, oh, see Doja's nice to her fans. But I'm like, this is still kind of weird to me. Oh, right away you thought that. I did, even though like Doja hadn't even said anything at the time, like I saw around the time it came out.

And I was like, it's still a lot. Cause he also asked like her real name and just like the context. I think after especially hearing everything that Chappell Ronas talked about with like setting the boundaries and stuff, it kind of gave me that again, where it's like the parasocial,

like thinking celebrity is like your best friend, even though you don't know them, they don't know you. Is it a famous TikToker? Does he have a lot of followers? He's a pretty decent sized TikToker. Yeah, not like, you know, a huge influencer or anything, but he has like a following for sure Yeah, and and also like this was his own like shirt that he made So it's obviously like a good promo for him to have like give it a doja cat making a viral video out of it

But I asked for it. Yeah, like I think she just complimented it and again for context. Yes. She asked him for a shirt He said I don't have any here and And again, for context. She asked him for a shirt. He said, I don't have any here. And then he offered to give her. But she asked him for a shirt. The shirt, he makes these shirts. She likes his shirt.

He's like, I'll get you some. I want that. But I don't have anything here. It's his merch. So I'm gonna give you, yeah, he makes those shirts. So I'm gonna give you my shirt right now off of my sweaty body. Okay.

Which I mean, like in theory is nice. People do do that to me. They wanna give me everything crusty dusty. They're like, here're like here have this I'm like, I mean, you know nice It's a nice sentiment I guess because you're like I guess I've done that too someone give me their little boo boo at pride and I gave them My hat that I was wearing. I'm like, I don't know if that's like standard here I get but anyways, I get the sentiment I get the sentiment. Okay, I thought I thought oh she's just my initial reaction I was like, oh she's you know, cuz some people are like that. Some people are just like, wow, you know, excited to see,

you know, so I thought, I thought she was just excited too. Maybe she knew him, I don't know. I think it looked kind of weird from the jump. Okay. And also like no hate to. Pablo. Pablo, yeah. Cause obviously I feel bad too, cause like the, it's a weird thing where people are like,

are very divided over it. And then people are very hateful on both sides. I'm not trying to contribute to that. But she, the beginning of her video, her arms are crossed so she does seem a little uncomfy. She just was partying in a club. She's obviously drunk. He also said that he was drinking too

so there's that element as well. You look cold when you're doing this. You're like, oh, I'm so cold. I think she's put on the spot, on a camera, for a TikTokker, she was a camera, on a, for a TikToker, she was just partying in a club, she's coming out, it's late at night in West Hollywood. She's a small girl, like obviously, you know,

he does say like, I'm gay, I would never wanna make someone uncomfortable, but he is still a man, he's like bigger than her, cause she's so tiny. What's wrong with that? It's not like I'm, it's not because he's a man, it's like, like whether it was gay or straight, it's the way he was using his hands all over her body.

Because I watched the video and I was just like, his hands are constantly holding her. She's constantly being held by him. So he holds her arms, talks to her, hugs her in. Then she walks back, then he grabs her arms and jumping with her, he's never letting go of her arms and then pulls her in, then she walks back, then he grabs her arms and jumping with her, he's never letting go of her arms and then pulls her in again.

No, for sure, I think 2025, like grabbing anyone is crazy. Cause we've been to so many meets and greets. Yeah. I've never seen anyone, and if I did see, I would stop. Like I've never seen anyone like, Yeah, no. Hold you, bring you in,

No. and not let go. Someone did that with a microphone, was it at the Greek, so they grab it. Oh yeah, I remember. It wasn't even that big of a deal, but everyone gasped. Everyone was like, oh, which is like, I mean, yeah, I guess in hindsight, but yeah, no one's ever grabbed.

That is, that's different. Like you said, you're drunk and you're out. I guess, I don't know, I'm not around drunk people like that, so I don't know, but either way, it's probably not cool to like, someone said they didn't want to be touched. Oh, it was a Doja Cat, who said that? Yeah, so she tweeted on the 13th.

So it was like over a week after She tweeted I threw that musty shirt away by the way And then she said bottom line is I'll smile at you But it doesn't mean I f with you and don't touch me and manhandle me when you don't even effing know me if you know You know I honestly think I need to stand up for myself in the moment sometimes and he didn't even know my effing name to be touching Me and kissing me on my face like that is crazy. So yeah, it was people she ended up deleting the tweets because she did

cause like a lot of controversy and people were like giving her a lot of people were calling her out because like she complimented how we smelled like she said, Oh, you smell good. So then to call his shirt musty, people call that out. And then saying that, like she looked really, she didn't look uncomfortable in the video. Because there is a moment where she hugs him back and like, she like lifts her leg up. So people like screenshotted that. It's like, oh, you looked comfortable here. But the trauma responses are real. Like, it's like a fight, flight, freeze or fawn.

And as I'm a fawner for sure. Fawner is? It's when you become, when you appease and people please to minimize conflict. And that is so mean. Oh, for sure. I was saying yes to everyone and everything back in the day. Whatever they want to do, I was like, well, yeah, whatever. Doesn't mean I'm not comfortable with it.

The most, like, the biggest example I have of this is I said this story before, but I got lost on a hike and I finally exited after like hours and it was so hot and I was dehydrated and I was finally like almost at my car. And then this man started like stalking me and then stopped me and said like, hey, like you wanna suck my and I literally fought.

I did not wanna do that. You did it? No, I almost did. I was like, he was like, we can go up there. I was like, okay. And I just like, my mind just automatically said yes. And then I was walking, I was like, actually, no. Like I really don't.

Yeah. But I get to that. And that's obviously an extreme example, but I'm just like, I am the same. Where like I people please. So I get, I don't know. I understood that vibe. I feel like that, but I did it.

Like it's like, you don't want to have sex with someone, but you feel bad, and they're kind of pushing you, and you're like, obviously, yes, that's like assault. But there are times where you're just like, I feel bad, I guess. I don't know, I'm here, you're right, I guess I should. Yes, extreme example, of course, but there's so many times where I've been uncomfortable and you'll just see me look like I have a great old time. Yes. Yeah.

And she's obviously still thinking about it. A week later, it about it a week later. It affected her a certain way. I'm surprised there was backlash on her because if she said she was uncomfortable. The issue is that now after the fact, now it does come to numbers. She's a much bigger presence online.

He's much smaller. So her just stating how she felt seems like an attack on him. And people already think she hates her fans. So that everything that was said was like, you see, she hates her fans. She hates her fans. I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I'm on her side. And the unfortunate part is that both people are, let's say, to some degree

intoxicated out of a club, both of them are not at their best judgment and behavior. So she is not capable to stand for herself at that moment. He's not able to contain himself at that moment. And you get this explosive. Like somebody around should have somewhat intervened. Somebody on her side should have been there. Somebody on his side. Maybe she was excited.

Who knows? I would never let anyone manhandle you that way. It doesn't matter what the situation is. You should have anyone like that around, maybe no one would watch it. So that's what I'm saying, which is kind of odd for somebody at her. I actually never seen that, you're right. Like, I actually have never seen people be like that. Like, pop up, knock it, not to send him hate, because I guess I get it.

But also it's like, yeah, I've never seen. Yeah, because he did post like a TikTok response after he said, I just want to clear this up because it hurts. I love her. I just think it's crazy because she's the one at the event that was being nice. She pointed out my shirt and said, I like that. And he said, now she's on Twitter saying,

she threw that musty shirt away that I didn't know her name, that I manhandled her. I understand if I was being too nice or whatever, I will take full accountability. I'm gay, I would never want to make her feel uncomfortable. She's so iconic. I've only been saying the nicest things. And then he speculated that maybe she wanted publicity,

which I'm like, I don't know about that. And- Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. Yes. Both can get lost, right? Her calling him musty kind of loses me and then him being like she wanted publicity loses me. Yeah, delivering on, can get lost, right? Her calling a musty kind of loses me and then him being like, she won publicity, loses me.

Yeah, delivery on, I think Doja could have delivered her thing, but I get why you make a statement because like maybe she saw it, it sat with her and then she's like, it wants to set the precedent. You know? Oh, for sure. Because maybe everyone's like, wow, she's so nice.

Everyone will do it to her. I can do that, yeah. Yeah, I think that might be it. Yeah, and then delivery, again, could, I think that might be it. Yeah, and then Delivery, again, could have definitely been better for sure. And then, yeah, Pablo's part, I don't think she wants publicity. And then he went and made a new shirt,

with a new tank top that said must-do shirt on it, so he's making merch after this whole encounter. I'm like, oh my God. Okay. I'm like, I don't know. Well, gotta monetize it I guess. But it shows you that he's not hurt from that. And she is, you know what I mean?

Like he's not making merch of this. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it shows you the dynamic of like how they both see the situation. He sees it as an opportunity. She sees it as a moment that she was. Sometimes she just got to,

there's a YouTuber who's making merch about his cancer, I believe. Sometimes people just, you know. Well, maybe he needs to fund raise. I mean, that's his own thing, though. Right. All I'm saying is like, you can see how musty was his thing. Because also his statement was like, you know, she was being nice.

I was just being nice. I'm like, no, there's a difference. Like you can be nice to somebody. Doesn't mean they want you all over them in their personal space. Well, he knows that now. Right. Hopefully. I knows that now. Right. Hopefully. I don't know. I think also even though he apologized, it said sorry.

Right. But it was one of those things where I was like, sorry for being too nice. Like, well, that's not. I feel like, you know, like, you know, I apologize. I didn't because obviously his intentions were good. So it's like, I obviously like I love Doja. Like, I apologize for crossing boundaries like and invading her personal space.

Like I was doing too much. I feel like that could have been better versus like, I was just being nice, you know. Or I'm gay. I'm gay, yeah. Love that defense. Cause also gay men can like feel almost too entitled to women's bodies and vice versa.

Like you hear drag queens saying like women come and grab me all the time. So. Women to gay men too for sure. Yeah, yeah. But I definitely had the gay men like blah, oh. Because they feel like, oh, well, I'm not attracted to you sexually

so I can touch your breasts, or you know what I mean? I'm in both ways for sure, yeah. You always think that. I was not, even my photo with Gabby Windy, I have the hover hand, because I'm very, I never want to like. Did you have a hover hand? Yes. Oh, wow.

Every time, I didn't even realize it until I'm looking at the photo about a person, and I'm like, I didn't even realize it until I'm like looking at the photo about a person like, I always have a hover hand. Same with like Brooke when Brooke was here, everyone's like Oscar's hand being like a mile away. Nice though. I forget about that. I need to yeah, touch is not always about sexual. It's about energy. Like there's people that I don't want them to touch me. It's not even as it has nothing to do with it. It's's people that I don't want them to touch me. It's not even as it has nothing to do with it.

It's not touching you. It's like, cause I don't exchange energies so quickly with people I don't know. You know, it's like, there's something. He will not hug people. No, and they sometimes leave their perfume on me. That's horrible. Oh my God.

He gets, oh my, I feel like. Which again, this is another thing. Like a person, like it's like, I never enjoyed, like I would never play basketball because people would get like sweaty, take their shirts off, just the idea of like somebody's sweater. You know what I mean? So here again, the guy is with his shirt off.

This is your worst nightmare. Cut to Moses playing basketball on our TED Talks. That's what I understand. Only in TED Talks. You were all up on there, sweaty. He was playing a character. Yeah. You're the only one who would do that to me.

But that's why I understand her side of it. Because it was just a lot. It was too much personal space. I'm so torn because I do get excited about people. And yeah, I would probably jump on people too. Did you jump on Gerard? Would you imagine grabbing him by his hands and pulling him into a hug? I probably would want to, but no.

Or even Jason Momoa. That's what I was thinking earlier. I don't know if he set the precedent, but his would go viral, his meet and greet photos of him doing that. Usually those people ask, because even for your meet and greets, don't they come up and be like, oh, can we do this? Yes. What I know from those Comic Con photo ops is usually you ask them, oh, can we do this? So what I know from those like Comic-Con photo ops is like,

usually you ask them, oh, can we do this? And they say like, yes or no. And then, you know. And I did, I remember asking him, cause I saw him do it with so many people. And I was like so scared. Cause the, the go-to meet and greet, cause I, I do pay for meet and greets.

I did Donny Asman, Brittany, Jason Momoa. And the go-to is like, you just kind of standardize. That's me too and things. But there are people who are like, can we do hearts? Can we do this? And then people ask me to do the Jason Momoa pose on them. So it's like so interesting. But I had seen so many people do it with Jason.

I don't think I would have been comfortable to ask him, like, could you just put your arms around me? So I wonder who the first person is that like thought of that. But he was so down. I was also that person. It reminded me of the meet and greets. Sometimes people come with their boyfriends or their moms and you know, you do group photos and individual.

But sometimes the moms or the boyfriends will be like, oh, I don't need an individual, can she take it? I was like, yes, I used to do that. I used to buy six photo passes and so you know, they're like $250 for like that. So I would just spend like $1,000 and I would always be like, cause you can only get one pose,

especially with someone like Jason Moe, you literally get like two seconds with them. I'm like, I actually have six photo passes. Can I get different poses? And he did, he did a different pose each time. And he's like, okay, what six photo passes. Can I do different poses? And he did. He did a different pose each time. And he's like, OK, what's next? What's this?

And then by the end of it, I was like, I kind of love it. So when people's parents would do that, I'm so sorry. I was like, no. I kind of love that. And then my mom ended up giving me her photo pass the third or fourth time. So I had seven photo passes. And there are people who are so cool. Jason Moe, you see all his meet and greets.

He is just like, of course, people are asking him. He's not just doing that. You know what I mean? People are asking. Yeah, it's true that the event is like a photo meet and greet to you, so the circumstances are also, yeah. Yes. But you know what?

I think about that sometimes. It's like, what if someone, I guess people do call them out when they say no. Some people call them rude if they don't do certain poses with them. you know. Who is it? I know it's kind of like triggering, but Chris Brown, I think does like really sexual

meet and greet ones. Have you seen his pictures? He like straddles them. He like picks them up and like their legs are wrapped around him. I think it's a thousand dollars to meet Chris Brown. And I think he does like, that's his thing. He just does like really sexual poses with everybody.

I guess if it's consensual, then I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I guess. Right. Like, I know for other. I don't know. I guess. Yeah, literally, I guess it's just if it's consensual. Yeah, it's OK. Like, have you ever asked for a pose when you met someone? I don't think so. I think when I met Tyler Posey, the Teen Wolf, I was like, can we just look like, see, like, I don't know, like, I think I said, can we look dramatic?

Like, it's because the Teen Wolf photos, they're all like serious, so yeah. Oh, because you kind of knew too ahead of time. You're like, let's do this. Yeah, but nothing super specific. The Chris Brown photos are. Did you see it? Show them the Chris Brown ones.

They're wild. I mean, he's like grabbing their butts. They're like sitting on him. I would be scared to do that, because what if someone later on retracts that consent and be like, I didn't want that actually. The foot is for them to have, not for him. He doesn't care.

I guess, but you know people can change their minds. Maybe after the Chris Brown stuff came out, and maybe people are like, actually I don't want to sit on it. I guess they're doing this after though. So you already kind of know what you're getting, I guess. Okay, maybe a bad example, but I always think of those. I was like that's so wild. Daddy's another one who's really cool I mean I never do anything crazy, but I'm always like can we do like a prom pose and you know? I love doing poses with people. I think that's cool when people have poses. Yeah, I've ever said no

To a pose I guess someone want to do something crazy, but yeah This is a new one everyone does oh that and they're end fairy, I think, is what it's called. End fairy? What is that? For K-pop, it's like the little thing that you end on. I learned a lot from my time as an icon. As a what? As an icon.

That's what I thought. I love that. OK. Yeah, everyone loves to do these little things. Yeah, a little ending fairy, yeah. Sometimes I'm like, I don't know what that means, but OK. It's cutesy. I think it's, yeah, it's cutesy.

It's like the little, whenever like, when the K-pop artists perform and they end the performance, they end on like, on a little pose. So it's like what they do. Yeah. I don't know if you can tell because my fingers are so chubby. I love when they do like press tour, like when Barbie and other,

I think Robert Pattinson for like Mickey 17 went to like Korea and everyone like wants them to do the little like ending fairy. It's so cute. Oh, okay. I love that. Yeah. This looks like a little heart or something too. I like it. Okay's so cute. Oh, okay, I love that. Yeah. This looks like a little heart or something too. I like it. Okay, good to know.

Everyone did those at my things. It's like, I love that so much. Never sorority stuff. Everyone's like wanting me to do a sorority, weird things with my hands. I'm like, I said yes. I was like, I hope it's not like Illuminati or something that I'm channeling.

It's always some weird something, but. Greek letter thing or something. I don't know anything about sororities. I don't either. about sororities either but I feel like I'm glad knowing Moses is on the same side as me it makes me feel better because a lot of people were very much team Pablo on his side but it's also a lot of people just don't like Doja you know because I do see his side where in the video like again my initial reaction was there was nothing wrong she was excited to see him look like looked like she was a fan, you know, too. Like, I think just me contextually, honestly shout out to Chappell,

cause I feel like Chappell was on the front lines of like, you know, the parasocial and like setting the boundaries and stuff. And also too, that's what I was thinking about that. I was like, everyone was really mad at Chappell when she set that boundary. So I'm like, even if Doja I think did say it like in a nicer way, people would still be like,

oh, she hates her fans. Cause people were so mad at so mad at chapel for just being like you don't know me You know don't call me by my government name, you know, like don't when I'm out of drag. Oh, he did ask about her name Yeah, I said what's your real name. And so yeah Yeah, just from like what I've heard from chapel I think that is always like in my mind even very meeting vanilla me Yes, I was like, I'm not to say her government name, you know, or you don't think it's vanilla. I don't know. I'm not going to find it.

I thought that was a funny vanilla mace or whatever she chooses to go by. It's first I saw Pablo's TikTok. So first I saw his side. So I was more prone to even be on his side. And then I went to look at what happened. But if you look at that video and just look at his hands, because when you see a video, it's like a magic trick where your eyes go.

So when you see the video, your eyes go to him, to her, smile, the shirt, but just look at his hands. You raise everything else from the video, just look at what he does with his hands all the time. I was like, ouch, okay, now I get what she's feeling and why. Well, boundaries are set. Hopefully the internet knows. I think, like I said, most people are not. I met 3,500 people this year and like no one is like that.

Yeah, I'm sure that alcohol probably had something to do with it too, you know? So that's why like, yeah, I don't want, I feel like people just are getting too intense on both sides. Like, you know, I feel like on both sides, things could have been handled a little bit better, you know, to say the least.

Some people are just very touchy feely too. Some people just love to do a little grabby grab. Who was, oh, that's what, it was a different story. It was the Georgia cap, but there was someone on an airplane recently who said they like tapped a flight attendant because she like skipped their row and the flight attendant was like, don't touch me.

And then like half the people were on the side of the flight attendant being like, yeah, you shouldn't touch them. And the other half was were on the side of the flight attendant being like, yeah, you shouldn't touch them. And the other half was on her side because she's like, well, she had to walk in past her aisle, not anything. And she was just like, excuse me.

And then the flight attendant was like, don't touch me. I'm very much a person that's like, whatever they're comfortable with is like, you know, I don't think I'm entitled to touch anyone that doesn't want to be touched. So it's like whatever they are comfortable with and whatever boundaries they set, I feel like should just be respected no matter where you're working, you know? Yeah.

Same with like, it doesn't matter if you're a flight attendant, it doesn't matter if you're a stripper. Like if you don't want to be touched, if you don't consent to being touched in that specific like moment, then that is like who... I feel like people get a little bit too entitled to, you know, all because you're comfortable with something doesn't mean the other person is. That's right. I feel like, again, it's like a 2025 thing where it's like, yeah, when I was like little people touched a lot, like they would touch people like servers, that kind of stuff like that. But now it's kind of like...

Yeah, but don't they have those little buttons on the airplanes for the flight attendants to come? No, I mean, in general, like in general, the rules just don't touch. Like you're sitting, the person is like, where are you even, how do you choose where to touch? Are you going to poke their elbow, their arm? It was the elbow. You know what I mean? Like where, like just don't if you need to even think about where I'm going to do that. That is true.

And if you're flight attendant walking and there's like 50 people, imagine how everyone are like poking you. True. I do hate a poke. Oh, I hate a poke. I think I'd rather you grab me from behind than poke me because pokes are crazy when people like run up from behind you and like go like this, this, this.

I'm like, what the hell? Like take a little piece of paper, wave, do something. You know what I mean? Like there's a million things a way to get. If that person is so busy, they can't even see you. Definitely now touching them is not gonna help. Poking is crazy. That's, yeah, That's actually so funny.

Not funny, but in general people don't, but a couple of times it happens you're just like, what the hell? It just catches you off guard and it's just like, you know, we're walking with like five other people and someone's just like tapping you. Even on Facebook, remember on Facebook people would poke. Oh, is that taken away now? I don't even know if that's a thing anymore. I don't really use Facebook like that.

Yeah, don't poke me. Mark Zuckerberg. Where is he at? Look in the mask if that's a thing anymore. I don't really use Facebook like that. Yeah, don't poke me. Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah. Where is he at? Lookin' a mess, that's for sure. Oh, he doesn't look good anymore? He tries to look really cool now. I forgot, he did someone's podcast

where he tried to look like cool. It was almost like old guy trying to fit in with like Gen Z's. Oh, okay. He had like a chain and he had like a black t-shirt and like baggy jeans. He's a beast said he was giving kind of like the beast vibes I'm like, okay

Yikes, okay. No news Facebook except for Moses Facebook he told me he was famous on Facebook. I mean the even the sentence of he loves Facebook You were like you were all about posting your videos on Facebook you were like Facebook Facebook, babe. You love Facebook. When I met you, you were like, you were all about posting your videos on Facebook. You were like, Facebook's where it's at. You loved Facebook. When I met you. Where it was, where it was.

Imagine 2020, not 2007. You said Facebook 2007. I know, I know, but I'm saying like, Facebook, like the way I used Facebook was when Facebook was something like actual social media platform. There was no TikTok, Instagram. We just kind of just photos. No.

My mom does. Exactly. That makes sense. That's when everyone left Facebook. It's not even like connected to her Instagram. She just like posted a whole separate thing on Facebook. I went to her page and she was like really different things. I think she has like friends from like high school

or something she posts for. Cause I was like, this is a very different. Audience. Audience, yeah. She's not posting my Poshmark over there. She's posting like she'll be on stage with me but she won't post it on instagram but she'll post it on facebook i'm like what are you posting this for

so funny i don't know who but she does love a facebook it's for the moms i guess all right mark suckaberg you win because you still have the moms on your side but yeah i'm not a facebook person not my thing oh i did change my status to married on there. I was so excited because I was single for so long. I was so excited to put like, married. I wonder what mine, I don't know if I ever changed mine on there. Did you never change your status?

Because the other person has to accept it too. You can't just like change your status to somebody without the accepting. Yeah. To make it like linked to someone else. Like engaged to or married to. Yeah, I guess you could put married but if you put to someone. Yeah. That was the whole conspiracy. I think it's all because of Gabby Hanna.

I was just about to say that. That was the conspiracy with that is because she put like in a relationship with Bo Burnham but it was like a fake Bo Burnham page or something. Oh, I forgot about this. But I don't know what her explaining was. Was she catfished or was she like, she kind of knew or was her page?

I don't remember. I think she claimed it was all kind of a joke on her side because she probably made that account too. She was like that person that makes up the multiple profiles to make the catfish look real. Yeah, I think she Photoshopped pictures of her. I mean, again, I'm not knocking it. I probably would have done that. I think you didn't make it kind of. I mean, again, I'm not knocking it. I probably would have done that. Probably did do that. I think it's kind of a fake it till you make it kind of. I mean, you didn't marry a cardboard cutout, so I don't know. Right, but at least it was a cardboard cutout.

It wasn't like, this is Brad Pitt or Keanu. I guess I had Keanu Reeves too. That's so funny. I mean, yeah, to be a whole profile of someone else is kind of wild, but. I just saw a clip of her in an interview talking about people criticizing her. Recently?

I just don't know if it's new or old. She's like in a university. Oh, probably old. Do you think it's old? I mean, I don't know. They do always get us with the old. I know you gotta check those dates. Yeah, I don't see anything.

I mean, maybe though, she does randomly make a appearance. Yeah, just random things. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't see anything. I mean, maybe though, she does randomly make a appearance. Yeah, just random things. Yeah, I haven't seen her in a while, but internet staple, honestly. She has some good moments in internet history. All of them. No Justin Bieber?

Oh, okay, I don't know. We have time for both. Yeah, okay, do both. Yeah, okay, do both. Okay, okay, okay. I don't know about this. Take it away. I was like, not Justin Bieber. This is what, I was gonna transition

the beginning for Father's Day. I had another Father's Day hot topic and now it drives me nuts that something else was on Father's Day and I had to do with a father and now I can't think of what that was. But that's okay. The Justin Bieber, this was Mo's hot topic actually this morning too. Mo's was like, did you see Justin Bieber's story?at This is most hot topic actually this morning to Moses like she Justin Bieber story. I was like no I did see it

I think in my mind you should probably stop messaging him Why I really now more than ever is when you message now that I see his character. I'm like It's a cry for help, but he keeps saying he makes stories after stories of like guys don't That's it. Try it. That's what a lot of people say before it's too late. Like a lot of people will say that too. Be like, I'm fine, everyone needs to stop worrying about me. But it's like. No, you said, I know I'm broken.

I know I have anger issues. I'm trying, I can't make it work. I can't fix this. Justin Bieber, I guess it's a thing. I don't know, maybe he can help me fill in the lore. I can try and set this up, but I don't know the full lore behind it. First thing I see is he posted the baby picture, like just the baby's hand or something, or

the back of its head, and then he had the middle finger. His captions are always the middle finger, which is wild. But then I saw the Haley Bieber. Father's Day sucks. So then I had to go to X to see that it was like a reference to him saying Mother's Day sucks, right? So I guess it's like a play there. I saw, well, okay, the first thing I saw this weekend was the nobu, him at nobu, Malbu at the beach,

being like, hey guys, leave me alone. And he seemed fine in that one, he seemed fine. His stories, though, last night, his eyes were a little bit, I just feel like when someone's calling out for help, I feel like you shouldn't stop, even though he's asking people for help, I feel like you shouldn't stop Even though he's asking people to stop I feel you shouldn't stop asking if he needs help Cuz I'm a summer family friends. He doesn't say he has friends. He has close friends But sometimes okay when I crashed out on the internet in 2019 like a spiral They got spiraling right and people are like calling wellness checks on me and stuff

I think then there's a there is a point where like I Need to get off the internet. I need to help myself. So I think it's like you know it's a cry. It's a cry right? It's like you're you keep posting this stuff you're posting the middle finger you're posting on stuff like that. I feel like it's a... Right and he says he has a lot of trauma and pain that he's dealing with. The problem is when you when you're that famous you're surrounded by yes man even his wife is a former fan like you, you're surrounded by yes men. Even his wife is a former fan. Like, you know, you're surrounded by people

that will do what he wants on his terms. And even the messages, with somebody calling him out for lashing out, and he's like, bye, you're blocked. Like, I'm not gonna take. Who was that? Who was that? I didn't get that in the text message team.

I don't think he showed names. But all I'm saying is like, I don't think the problem is with famous people like that Is that they don't have anyone around them that can do that and if somebody tries they're out of that circle Because they're just Too famous and usually wealthy. I don't know how wealthy is to be told what to do or Receive any help. I

Don't know. I felt, I feel just sad. And I feel like people are, I feel like people are genuinely concerned about him and not just like mocking him. You know what I mean? I feel like people are genuinely concerned because he has so many fans.

And I feel like that's why like no one says anything. I don't know. I just think it's him posting so much. That's always like a sign of like spiraling a little bit. Especially all the middle finger emojis. He posted a story to his feed today, so he really wants people to know his sentiment of like, hey guys, stop talking to me. I'll keep sending him DMs.

Honestly, I feel like you never know. You never know what can help somebody, you know? I would love to help him because honestly, I've been there. I've spiraled out. I mean, I've been everywhere he's been. I mean, that's crazy. But it's everything. I mean, not to say he's had trauma. I don't want to traumatize him, but like, you know, even like all the ditty stuff still happening, I'm like, damn, like, that's crazy. You know, not to change the subject, but like, Justin Bieber was also close with him. And again, not to say, I don't know, maybe he

wasn't traumatized by him or anything, but it probably is just a lot anyways to see someone you were like friends with as a kid go through, I don't know, it's probably a lot of sh** through him. Also mentally. Oh yeah, he's been through a lot. I mean, cause he was a kid thrown into Hollywood music world and all that with no parental supervision.

So that's kind of the worst case scenario for a child. I thought he had his mom. I thought his mom was there. She literally gave him away to Dee Dee, Usher, whatever, you know, for... The more I think about child star, the more I'm like, maybe not. Because, you know, I know I would love Malibu as a little star, but I'm like, I don't know, maybe wait till she's like 18, I kind of feel. I feel like all these child stars, even JoJo, who is very like well equipped

and, you know, kind of crushing it. I still feel like maybe something somewhere when you're so little just working with adults all the time. Don't know if it's a good thing. Yeah. It's all about the cost of intention. Is the parent doing it because the parent wanted to be famous and they couldn't

and now they're using the child to facilitate their own dreams and wishes? Or if a child really wants to do something and you're there to support them and help them and protect them It's fine. The child can pursue their dreams But then you even hear a question is it the child's dream or the parents dream? but even so you even hear about people that are like really well like Transitioned out like he keep home or transitioned out well from like a child started where she's at now

She's like really like stable and stuff like that But then you hear those stories of her having me like 17 having to kiss like a 27 year old You know what I mean? Like I just I don't know whether protection comes in. That's where you say no Yeah, that's true. I guess nowadays it's different but Justin's sad. It's um Yeah But he has a wife his family has family, he has friends, he has just people around.

I'm sure they're doing the best they can, but there's a limit to how much you can help a person. Yeah. That doesn't want help or doesn't want help. They want it on their terms, you know, and that doesn't work because your terms obviously don't work. Like whatever you're doing.

You also like trigger people more like, I feel like Aaron Carter got a lot of backlash when he would go live and his doing trigger people more like I feel like Aaron Carter got a lot of backlash when he would go live and his lives and people were like worried about him and then kind of Maybe doesn't help the situation. I don't know Yeah it is You just can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped or like know that they need help

but it's sad cuz he's like admits that he is someone who is traumatized and has a lot of stuff and like is struggling himself. Like he writes on his stories, but it's not like, it's like what can anyone do? It's tough. The Haley Bieber thing you think was just a comment by his comment, you think she wasn't like

signaling anything? No. Because they go back and forth a lot. And I'm like, it kind of just fuels, fuels fans the flames I don't know. What's it mean when you do more flames fan you fan the flame? That's what I'm saying. I feel like it fans the flames more to like chirp in with it Yeah, I would imagine it was probably one of those things where she thought she was being cutesy

Not the time yeah, then the other stories start coming in. It's like, oh, actually. Yeah, because she's always been very, like, anytime the rumors have come out that they're having issues, she was very vocal about, like, squashing it. So I feel like she thought she was, because she's kind of in this era right now where she's, like, being in on the joke, like, with the vogue when she pulls out, you know, the love spell that she used on Justin that a witch gave her to make him fall in love with her. Oh, I see.

She's making a lot of self-referential jokes about the internet thinking she's a stalker and stuff right now. So she's kind of in her jokester era. Which doesn't align well with Justin Bieber's cry for help era, you know what I mean? You're kind of like, damn, are we okay? Are we there?

Yes. I wonder, yeah. Damn, yeah, probably not the time to make that joke. Yeah. Maybe she didn't know he was gonna T, yeah, she probably didn't know. Cause his Instagram feed is wild right now. It's just socks and hands and text messages.

Yeah. I love Justin Bieber. I really did pick the wrong time to become a believer though. Or maybe the right time. That's what I'm saying. That's why I don't keep DMing him. I loved it all the times that you rained on my parade. You're getting closer and closer using my name. And he has been working on music. Like he was in Iceland or something working on music a couple weeks ago. So I don't know. I would gag. I would gag for new music. Okay. I hope he just stays creative. I hope he stays focused.

I would gag. I would gag for new music. Okay, I hope he just stays creative. I hope he stays focused. Yeah. And paparazzi, leave him alone, I think. I'm scared. That part. Yeah. Who was, oh, he was at the, maybe it's old.

I have to look at these clips. He's at the montage, I think, too. And the paparazzi were trying to get on music. What are you guys doing here? Like, I used to see him at the montage all the time. He used to get my hair done at the salon. No, that's not his name. Who did I get my hair done at the salon. No, that's not his name. Who did I get my hair done by?

I can't remember. Do you think he used to live there or was that you that lived there? I think it was him that lived there. He lived there and I'd see him all the time. So I saw another, I don't know if he still lives there, but I saw another one interview, like a paparazzi out there, and I was like, oh God, he just looks,

even the noble, he's like, oh, just like leave me alone. And they just don't. They're like, we're on the sidewalk. He's like, I don't care. He's like, I am a dad, I'm a husband. Like I feel sad for him. Me too. Being stalked by people is scary.

And even though it is becoming a meme too, like what's not clocking for you? I'm standing on business. Like he is using the wrong terminology. I love that. I think he meant clicking. What did he say? He's like, it's not clocking for you.

It's not clocking for you that I'm standing on business and that's becoming a meme. But I don't even know if we should be using that, you guys. I feel bad. I mean, yeah, maybe he's just not... I think he's just not... Yeah. I love it. It's not clocking for you.

I like it. Honestly, I use words wrong all the time because these words are hard. I can't. It's just period. They're hard. And he's Canadian, so give him a break, y'all. You know? Maybe that's what they say up in Canada.

Maybe. I love Justin Bieber, I'll keep messaging you. Hope you're okay. Reach out, honestly, been there. Been there. Yeah. I'm down. I'd help off camera too.

Don't need a, who was it, like Dr. Phil would always sit down with people and you're like But they really help them or you just kind of like using it for yeah, like I don't want to keep in touch. Yeah I'd keep in touch. I'm not a doctor though. So Maybe not the one to reach out to but I do know good ones Well as you were saying yes the internet era end of an an internet era, and canceled, which we talked about brief. It was on Patreon. Patreon. Yeah, because it was we talked on Patreon about

Tana on Impulsive, which again, I hadn't seen the clips when you brought it up on there. And then I saw the clips and literally it's like, I love the dichotomy of Mike being there. Me and Logan, like this is how it works. Like, you and Brooke need to be doing this. Like, we have each other's best interests at heart. Like, we are together.

You have to have a partnership in business. And Logan's sitting there disassociating while this man is like, boasting about how strong their bond is. And Logan is like, he is not clocking for Logan Paul. Like, what? And Logan Paul's in a different conversation entirely by the end of it.

Yes, I'm not even thinking. I'm like... Also, as we establish there too, I don't know, and I do love Mike. Okay, I do like him. I don't know if that's quite like a partnership and they have each other. I think it's more of him being a little like, I don't mean this derogatory, but like a little lap dog following him around. You know, he's like, if you're in Puerto Rico, I'm flying to Puerto Rico. If you're there, I'm going. So that's really just dropping your whole life to just chase Logan around, which is totally fine. If you're making that bag, you should do that for sure. But I think they were missing the point

of what was happening with Brooke and Tana having their own lives and trying to live their lives. And that was the whole point is Brooke, I think they can't adjust to each other's schedule. Tana has her own thing and Brooke wants to live her own thing so it's not like she can just be at the whim. Mike misses the point very much with females on Impulsive. I remember I told him I was 51, 50 on Impulsive

and he said, so when you were 51 or 50, like he thought I was. I see that clip a lot. I was like, what? Did he think I'm that old? This is like 2019. I'm like 31. He's like, damn. He's like, you said when you were 51 or 52.

I'm dead. I see that clip now. I was out of it on Impulses. I don't remember, but I remember seeing that clip now. And I was like, oh my God. I'm so dead. Because he loves to come across as like he's just tuned into everyone, which he is sometimes really tuned in.

And I do like him, but sometimes it was in the market, which was happening with Tana. She was like explaining it to him, too. And he still wasn't like clocking it. He was not getting it. Once he has a certain speech and idea that he wants to bring forward, he just pushes that. I think Logan is kind of more in the know because he probably, him and Tana talk, but Mike doesn't, he's not in the know. So he doesn't understand at all where she's coming from.

He just thinks like, you remember when I told you like when I used to like, if there was a problem, I used to just try to solve the problem. I'm like, no Mike, just listen. She's not needing advice from you. This is Tana. She has a whole career. She knows what she's doing.

She knows what she's going. It's kind of a man thing to do. Mike is the most like me, Mainsplain yourself to you. Yeah, it was very awkward. It was very weird. I, yeah. The Mike Logan thing,

but I think it's really just cause Mike takes over and Logan has nothing to add. So he's just like, That's why it was funny to watch Tana and Logan cause they were on the same head space. I think Logan was in a different headspace. Right, but Tana was just kind of waiting it out, you know, and giving the answer. Right, right.

Like, let him talk. Can we wait for this segment to be over? Yeah. I don't know if, what's it called? Impulsive. I don't know if impulsive is the place to be. No. It's gone downhill.

Once they got rid of that set. Tana's sister, I don't know if that's the, yeah. is the place to be. No. It's gone downhill. Once they got rid of that set. It's Hannah's sister, I don't know if that's the, I know that's your friend, you're loyal, but damn, I think we gotta just, they gotta move on. She is, yeah, friends with Logan and Jake. It's very bizarre to me. I don't understand it, but I, you know. You know.

Work. Work, honestly, yes. Going on Impaulsa is crazy. I also feel like, yeah, I don't know, because they do pre-film episodes, so I just wonder if that episode was meant to go up that quick or they put it up quickly because that clip we talked about on Patreon

was kind of like her confirming the end of Cancel. Yeah, it was the soft launch of the cancel, of Cancel's, cancelation. Cancelation, I know, I wasn't saying that. Like Cancel's has been canceled. Yeah. Yeah, they are in the TikToks going over time because people now love to speculate,

oh, they hate each other, they're this, but I see both of them in the comments like no No, it's not like that because we were comparing it to what I think is not a fair comparison Also, I don't know the history of it, but the caller daddy, you know where it's like things Yeah to me cuz with caller daddy wasn't it like it was more of a business thing Like it was business oriented where I feel like with broken and Hannah, it's more of like a personal like- Burnout. Yes. Both ends.

Burnout, they're in different, like they are just like in very different phases of their life from when they started. Which is what Hannah kept saying to Mike, and he was like not hearing it, cause he's like, well just pivot, and she's, okay, but like you're not getting it, I don't wanna do the once a week.

Like she kept saying like, we can't get together once a week, cause I'm in Maui, she's here. Like he was just're not getting, I don't want to do the once a week. Like she kept saying, like, we can't get together once a week. Cause I'm in Maui. She's here. Like he was just like not getting it. Like I have pivoting to Hawaii. Yeah. It's like what?

So she was, she's pretty clear. I feel about what was happening and he just like, wasn't getting it. Yeah. And it, it makes sense to me. I feel like everyone for the most part kind of of knew it was gonna be coming to an end soon because they just, you can tell the way that they talk about things too. Like they just are way more like reserved,

but even the irony is even when they're reserved, they're still starting feuds accidentally, like Paige with like Leah from Love Island, you know? Right, right. Because they've been trying to be in like the more neutral canceled era, but even Because they've been trying to be in like the more neutral canceled era. But even when they're neutral, they still ruffle feathers. Yeah, sometimes you can't escape it because it is kind of like you said,

like people like the mindset of how people see you, like no matter what you say will be seen as like a hot take or controversial or they'll see stuff that's not there or maybe it is there. I don't know, because people swore up and down. Oh, they hate each other. And I was like, I watched the clip and I was like, they will seem to be like fine ending it. Yeah, I feel like I don't I think that they hate each other vibe.

But to me, it was a vibe of like, you know, they kind of have like co-worker vibes almost. You know what I mean? Like they're I feel like the vibe with them is like just different because they've grown like separately if that makes they kind of just have grown apart as they figured out their own lives and what they want to do separately. Was the brand besties?

I never understood. I didn't think that they ever were like besties. I don't know if they were ever like besties like that, but they're I feel like their rapport was very different when they were both like single and partying and stuff. Like I feel like the rapport was just different. It was more just like, they were almost more like sorority sister or something, you know what I mean?

Where it's like they were doing stuff and they did some stuff together, but they also were living their separate lives, but it had a crossover. But as they settled down and they wanna be less of the out there cousin ruckus, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The vibe definitely changes.

So. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, it's just so funny though. When we said it, we talked about it on Patreon, like all the girls want to be tapping out of gossip. It's like, gossip is not for me. I don't want to be gossiping. I'm too old for gossip.

And I'm like, well. I'm just getting older and I want to be more gossipy. I do, I get that. Well, I was in that era too of no gossip. And I do, there is like a piece about it. There is, but can I tell you what? When I was in that era too of no gossip and I do there is like a piece about it there is but can I tell you what when I was in my no gossip era what was that 2022 2023 I never had more hate videos made about me so I get what they're saying the drama channels would come out so hard of me doing literally nothing I was like eating with tomatoes yes yes, that's the best example

because I truly was in my meditation. Yes. And people being so nasty throwing tomatoes. I'm bothering no one. And everyone's talking about me. Everyone's doing this. And I was just like, what the hell? So there is something to be said.

Yeah, about that. No peace there. They really just try to destroy you anyway. So sometimes you just have to say, just step back completely and be like, yeah, about that no peace error. They really just try to destroy you anyway. Oh my god, that was so... So sometimes you just have to say it's setback completely and be like, this is not it. But at the end of the day, gossip was what I do. Some people just aren't built for it. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's hard. It is hard.

It is hard. It is. It is hard because like when you have an opinion, inevitably people are going to have opinions about your opinion. And sometimes you're not in the head are gonna have opinions about your opinion and sometimes you're not in the headspace To have opinions about your opinions, but whenever I'm not in the headspace You don't give an opinion. I log out. I mean, I just don't look anymore You know what I mean? Like sometimes like last week I was very sensitive and I'm like, you know what? I just need to not see what anyone says about me and then I'll never know and then I'll be at peace

Yeah, so it's like sometimes I know That I just can't read comments or anything and sometimes I'm like, you know what I am In a space mentally emotionally where I can like read other people's opinions and like learn but sometimes I'm not you know I can never read people's opinions Moses will tell me and then I like okay like the Green Day incident. I was like, let me address it Otherwise, I would never know honestly, but it's good. He tells me the stuff that I need to know. What people are upset. The stay at home mom thing. Okay, I get it. Oh my God. So I will, you know, Moses is my monitor, which does

help tremendously. Moderators go along, like Pokey main hiring moderators for her own stuff. He's my IRL moderator. He's just like, I never have to see anything. He'll just tell me. Because he'll see, he'll look on Reddit me. Because he'll look on Reddit sometimes, so he'll tell me, oh, this is happening, and I'll have no idea. I'm like, okay. And it's like, thank God for Reddit. I think I met a moderator on Reddit.

I don't know if I even told you that. I think I met one of our moderators, IRL. Love. Yeah, she's like, I'm one of your moderators. I don't know what that means, but thank you. Yeah, I was like, thank you for being there. Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, because they have been, in my opinion,

this past year, very non- they don't talk about influencers the way they used to, you know what I mean? So I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I guess they're their own, they're their own hot topics. They're their own controversy, like you said, is that. Yeah.

And also, like, I feel like it almost does go back to gesture privilege a little bit. I think when you present yourself as very unserious, like we're just, you know, we're the outsiders, we're the outcasts. So, you know, I feel like we can say stuff and it's like perceived more cutesy because we don't really take ourselves that serious.

We're not like at the Gladiator 2 premiere, you know what I mean? That's what it is. Oh, it goes back to what we were talking about earlier. We're not like the cute girl syndrome, you know what I mean? That's what it is. Oh, it goes back to what we were talking about earlier. We're not like the cute girl syndrome, you know what I mean? We're not these hot, tiny girls on the red carpets. Yeah, we're not the threat to anybody.

That's what I said. I think being older and fatter, I think people are just like, that's cute. You know what I mean? Who is the big one in Star Wars? Who's that big, big one? Jabba the Hutt? Yeah, like people just love him.

Do they? Yeah, right? I always see people do the Leia and the Jabba the Hutt and people just love him because like he's not doing anything to anyone. You know what I mean? Like that's how I feel sitting here. I've been giving a lot of Jabba the Hutt. It's not a weight joke. It's honestly just me feeling like Jabba the Hutt recently. It's you you know, a state of mind, really. But yeah, I think that's it. I know, I could never be an influencer. What? Yeah, I don't have an influencer. Wait.

You don't have an influencer? That's why we said there was no influencers this year, but it's like, okay, I'll probably go in next season. So they should put other influencers with me. You know what I mean? We should have Tana, we should have like Shane. You know, there should be other influencers. You mean like a built-in alliance?

No. What are you crossing by yourself as? Influencers are like Alex Earl, like we're influencing the world. Tana, she has like a lip line coming out. You know what I mean? Like we have like, you know what I mean? Like I'm not influencing people.

Domino's is sponsoring me. No, but I think it's because you're bigger than being an influencer. Oh, what? You're more of a celebrity than an influencer. Wow, Moses coming in with the hype always. Thank you, okay, I love that. But think about it, if you're,

all the things you're doing around, you just came back from tour, Broadway, TV. A lot of influencers are touring these days. No, but I think as far as like people knowing you, cause I notice influencers are more niche, like influencer in makeup, I might never hear about them. Like a Michaela is an influencer. Yeah. Like the so influencers are more contained and you get us to be a celebrity when you walk the street and everyone knows you. Wow. I'm a celebrity. I was wondering where you're going with that. I was like, what does that mean?

Like, okay, got it. What do you consider yourself? Me? Yeah. Silly guy. Love that. That's your, that's your trader caption. Just silly guy. Cause you're kind of like, I wouldn't consider you influencer. You do have a brand deal. Did you post that?

You did one. Today. Oh yeah. Today too. They wanted it to go up on a just Trish day. I'm like work. Yeah. But today or tomorrow? Today or tomorrow. When it posts.

For us today for people watching. I've never had anyone say that on a just Trish day on a podcast day. That's so funny. They want the synergy. I've never had anyone say that on a Just Trish J on a podcast that's so funny. They want the synergy and like work. Okay, great, love it. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't consider you, but you are like, I guess personality.

Oh yeah, I could be a personality. Yeah, I have a personality. Yeah, I'll take that. Please, that was crazy. It's like, yeah, that's why I do get why it's tiring. Same with like when Tar Yumi was on our podcast. She's like, I just don's why I do get why it's tiring. Same with like when Tarah Yumi was on our podcast. She's like, I just don't want to be talking about select like things anymore.

You know, and I get it. You kind of just want to be, do your things on your own terms, not have opinions. And there is a piece that comes with that, but I just don't think it's ever an option or a path for us. Yeah, I think inherently we're like good at gossiping. Cause it's like, Even if we weren't in the mix, We'd still be doing it. We would be on our own. I was very much like even in my peace era, like I really was trying not like good at gossiping because it's like- Even if we weren't in the mix.

We'd still be doing it. We would be on our own. I was very much like even in my peace era, like I really was trying not to look at things, but man, like that modern warrior, I know you weren't involved in that TikTok drama, but when that was happening, I was so, the Johnny Depp stuff, I was like glued to my phone for it.

You know, I'm very into the- Journalism, yeah. Oh yeah, you're a journalist is really what you are. Loosely, yeah. Yeah, you have a degree. I love being in the mix. Like it's the people doing hard, hard news. And then me, what's it like Pedro Pascal being a daddy.

You know what I mean? It's like the two kinds of journalism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that. Well, they also have been doing it for four years, which is a long time to do a podcast. That's a long time to be. You're right.

That is, I forgot about how long it was. Especially in their years, what? Tana's 26, Brooke's like 28, so like they did start in their early 20s. Especially. Tana's 22 when she started, so. And then Brooke hadn't been in LA very long, right? Right.

Yeah, so it's a huge life change. And how it started, like you think about the Mindy situation, like how they were like, I will never, I mean, I love, you know, they're both wonderful, but it's like, I will never understand that like I will never not I mean, I love you know, they're both wonderful But it's like I will never understand that how like that whole thing happened and they're like, let's do a podcast together Like that's so wild to me. I know so it already starts out with that I don't know. I just also when you work together a lot

Oh, you're on tour a lot like you're traveling together like I mean you just get I would get sick of people I get sick of people all the time Crazy me when I like don't get sick like Moses. I'm like shocked. I'm not sick him I always found that to ha I'm always just like I don't know why you don't bother me, but most people do it's called love I guess so I guess that's true. Well, everyone else bothers me. There's people I love that bother me There's people in my life that I love that bother me, you know, that's real love like real love. You don't feel Irritated or you don't judge the person. Really?

I don't know. I feel like I really do love. I do love some people in my life that I can't see for very long. You know, it's like a day is good. You know what I mean? Being together like a weekend with someone or something that seems crazy.

I don't know. No, I feel you on that. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And it is just so crazy. I was thinking about when they announced that cancel was coming to an end. Also, wild way to do it. The fact that they did it in the title and then it wasn't clickbait, I was like, work. Okay.

Honesty. Yeah, she said it was between that or the Catherine McBroom could have been in the title, but she went with the cancel is over. Yeah, I feel like that's probably... I feel like that's, yeah, that was a better title. Oh, for sure, yeah. But, yeah, the way that they announced it and stuff too, I don't know. I was just thinking about like, a year ago was like the Clinton cane, like who the aft did I... Oh, was that just last year?

Right, yeah, it was just last year. You know what's interesting too is the preparation for the ending of Canceled, because it's also like, they said it's going through like October or something like through the fall. I love that they announced it in the middle of summer releasing merch. The podcast is over but we have a new merch. Also going on tour in Australia. Yeah. Right.

That's so interesting. I could see giving a couple days. I think Laura DIY has just ended and they gave like a two episode notification that they're second to last episode Which is like why you can't sing your episode? Why you can't sing your podcast? It's just her and her husband like in their house I was like couldn't be easier. I Don't know. I guess in general, I guess that's the consensus. Most people are like is like Podcasting seems easy to people. It's like once a week and And it is, I think, but I guess people just, I think also too when you have two,

it is hard to get the two people on a schedule. Me and Tana, like I said, not Loveline's going on a two week break because we just couldn't get it together. We were just like, we try to film, we film about six episodes in one day and we were doing those back to back, but still it's even hard to keep up

because she's busy and busy. So I think having two people, it's just like really hard. Two people with different schedules, different phases of life. Yes. It definitely gets, and two like stars too. Like they both are influencers. So it has a whole different dynamic too.

Yeah, they're doing a lot. Mike, he's the side, I'm the side guy, Mike is the side guy. it's easier for us. I don't know if Mike would agree with you on that. He wouldn't. He said partners. What is partner? You are a partner, yeah.

He wouldn't agree, but we are what we are, Mike, okay? So it is what it is. Well, you're just like, I think you're a main character, but then you were like, I like being a side character. I love being a supporting character. Supporting character, be a main character in your own life. You know what I mean? Like with your partner, with your family,

you know, be a main character. But you don't have to be a main character in your own life. You know what I mean? Like with your partner with your family, you know Be a main character, but not you don't have to be a main character out and about and you know in your content You know what I mean? Like it's fine being a supporting character. It's fine. There's less pressure But you don't have to be the Katniss killing President Snow, you know You want you were the Katniss in our Hunger Games just really like, you know for the moment Yeah, you're trying to lead the revolution. You know what I mean? Just really like, you know, for the moment. Yeah, yeah. I'm actually trying to lead the revolution. You know what I mean?

I would trust you to lead our revolution. I would just need you to lead the revolution. I think I'm, yeah. I would set someone up to lead the revolution. You know what I mean? Oh, I love that. I wouldn't have to do it. Yeah, I don't know if I'm cut out for it, but.

Yes. I'll set someone up to do it. So there's nothing wrong being a supporting character. And that's. Right. That works. It does work. So I think, but Brooke and Tana both have main character energy. That's true. That's true. Yeah, I think they'll start their own podcasts

Yes, I feel like inevitably. I don't know if Brooke would do like an actual podcast. I'm like Tana She loves to gap. She is a yapper. She just is it she's always been a yapper since yes, she came out on the scene She was just a yapper. She still is she goes on everyone's podcast She's on Jack. She's just talking to scene. She was just a yapper. She still is she goes on everyone's podcast Doing the most random I'm so tired. I'm so burned out. I'm like stop going all these random She was here wasn't her resolution to say no to that Yeah, she was here at 8 p.m. One night and Peter the Jeff wants to know if you can come over and do Jeff FM at like 10 p.m. I was like what we just did seven episodes. How are you still talking? I'm so, Jeff wants to know if you can come over and do Jeff FM at like 10 p.m. I was like, girl, what? We just did seven episodes.

How are you still talking? I'm so dead. You are so right. Yeah, she loves, I think, yeah, I think she loves to, yeah, but I think like you were saying, is finding someone who like, not in a bad way, but like, yeah, like a side character. Who's happy with their place in the world

being a supporting character. You know, that's kind of the vibe you need. And she did kind of do that with Mari. Did they not have a podcast? Why do I feel like she had one? Or Mari might have had a podcast that she was on. And that's the, he's supporting Caretrip. I'm just saying like something like that.

I don't know why I remember. Maybe you had one. You had one, I think. I think you're right, yeah. And I think Tana had a second one, even when they did cancel. I feel like she had like Tana's toxic traits or tips or something.

Do you remember that? She did like a second one and it was giving advice. You told me about this recently. And she had like two podcasts. You can't keep her from yapping. And cancel went away for a little while before, right? Didn't cancel go away for like a year? In between iterations.

Yeah, before. When they switched the companies. Yeah. Cause they said to, it's like, maybe it'll come back. Which maybe, you know, cause sometimes you leave, you think the grass is greener, but then you miss it. Or sometimes like, oh, thank God it's over. I do love a podcast.

I think I've had about 12 podcasts in the past four years. Can't hold me down with a podcast. That's for sure. Give me that microphone. You can't use it away from a microphone. No, I love it. I love a podcast. Everyone knows listening.

Yeah, oh, no. What was the least popular one? Probably the last one has 12,000 views, but I loved it. I finished it to the end of the show. I loved it. I just think podcasting this one. I had an ASMR one. What were some other random ones?

The ASMR one was random. It was good. I truly believed in it. I thought ASMR podcast is like a banger because I thought people want to relax, go to sleep with something. Like what's better than ASMR podcast? Why? People always ask for you to make more.

ASMR, we're not ASMR podcast. No, the ASMR podcast, we get comments, I see them. That was in my PCR too and people were coming for me because I just had Malibu and she was laying on my chest because she was literally a week old. Oh my God, her using her baby for views. I was like, oh my God, the baby's literally laying on me and it was like cooing.

Yeah, and if she wasn't there, absentee mother. Right, why aren't you with your baby? That is so true. I feel like those other podcasts I did that were small and I can't think, obviously what we're sharing was like two episodes. Oh, I forgot about that, yeah. That was two episode dish with Trish.

That was kind of popping. We had Shane, we had Jeffrey. Didn't you have two iterations of that or was it just one? I thought you had two seasons or whatever you call it. I had about three seasons. I did one in 2017 on SoundCloud, or 2015. And then the pink. Then the pink wall. And then I was quarantined where my flop era,

I'm just gonna switch when I got canceled. Podcast One fired me even though they put no money into it. And I was like, how are you firing me? Because I just get us off the network. But that was my flop era. That's, no, it's. And I was like, how are you firing me? Cause I just get us off the network. But that was my flop era. That's, um. See, I feel like Tana will inevitably fall out in your footsteps

cause you are like kindred spirits. And I feel like, you know, she'll be, they'll podcast for like a month or something. And then there'll be something else, you know what I mean? Right, right, right. I feel like you can't keep a microphone away from her. I feel like Brooke will do a different form of content. They sound like she wants to do the Brooke tries or whatever.

So maybe she'll be doing that Too I'll don't be a try guy She said she wanted to do a Burke tries. I love that. That'd be great. They should put a girl in there Yeah, she's like, I can't wait to see you cook or whatever love Okay, what are you Megan Merkel? Crazy comparison but Wow, that's a crazy comparison, but I would love to see it too. Maybe I can see that style of show. Like a lifestyle, like a Lord DIY vibe or something.

Lord DIYs, I'm assuming. I haven't seen it. No, she's done with DIY. She had that podcast and they just closed it. So now what? That's what I say. I'm like, what are you doing? You're married. Maybe she's just living. I don't know. I just couldn't imagine like, I guess, yeah, one day, inevitably, the inevitably,

is that the right word? Yeah. I guess, yeah, probably. But it's like, well, then what do you do? I think about that. Like, then what do you do? Yeah, then what? I guess you go to Singapore and do live shows. That could be us or the hacks of it for sure. That'd be fun. We could do a live podcast in Singapore. Yeah. I'm trying not to mention the boo-boos, but there is a special one. Oh no, are you still going to be on the boo-boo craze then? Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know. I guess you always find something.

Like I did my ASMR era during my peace era. I guess you always find something to do. Yeah, there'll be something else. I guess that's why people hop around, huh? And they're kinda like, oh, I found something better and then they leave usually, huh? Versus, oh yeah, I feel like with normal people, like usually when you get a new job

and then you quit the job you have, like you have the mic. But sometimes people just leave. You don't think they have any jobs lined up? I think they have, like, I think Brooke has an idea of what she wants, I'm sure Tana does too, but. Okay, because it just seems crazy to just be like, especially they get a lot of views, they get more views than us, although good for us.

Tana's lost at Just Trace. Come on down to Just Trace. Come on over. I was just like a little sign outside the studio, like, come on down, Just Trish. I know. Okay. We should buy an ad on the last episode of Cancel.

Love all the episodes. We give them an ad read and it's like, I love a Tana ad read because she'd be doing it on a iPhone from Hawaii. The quality is sh-t. I want her to be like, Just Trish, a great place to come for celebrity gossip. And the quality is terrible. Cancel may be ending, but if you want more gossip, go to Just Trish, a great place to come for celebrity gossip. And the quality is terrible. Cancel maybe ending, but if you want more gossip, go to Just Trish.

Well, you know, I wonder what the rate is. We have to buy an ad for you. I'm 100% doing that. That's so smart. That's our audience. Gosh, I know. I'm so dead. I know.

Wow. Come on over. Cause they've been getting lots of views. They get so many views. I was like, oh my gosh. Oh my God, I'm so dead. I love them ending on a high though. You gotta go out with a bang on the door.

You gotta know when to end it. That is the secret to life. Yeah. I never, never listened to that. I've always just like beat it till it's. People have just ended. They're like, we're done with you. That.

People have ended. Yes, that's true. It's like you've spent non-consensual. You've just been like. Oh my God, you're actually so right. Cause have ended. Yes, that's true. It's been non-consensual. You've just been like. Oh my God, you're actually so right. Because I really don't think I've ever walked away from anything. You were four. Even like district trash, I did get fired.

That is crazy. Do you remember that happened? I was like so embarrassed. I'm like, how do you get fired from a podcast network who does nothing for you? I was like, what? And it's out of my house. Like literally she was paying for everything to film, to edit, to upload. She was uploading herself.

I uploaded myself. And they told me it was like budget cuts or something. I was like, that's bulls**t. That was crazy. It wasn't even a year of my contract. And then it was like nine months in. I was like, I'm so dead. You're so right about that.

Well, hopefully I don't get fired from JustGrish. I know, right? I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know.'re so right about that. Well, hopefully I don't get fired from JustGhost, but. Moses fires you from JustGhost. I know, right? I was like, oh my gosh. Well, you know. I'm dead. Hopefully not Love Line is still going. I guess I gotta ask her.

Sometimes I don't know. People were asking about that. I'm like, hmm, it's a good question. Oh my God, that's so funny. And mind you, y'all end up gossiping over there too, so what the heck? That is true. Come to not love, like no one watches that. I don't know, no one ever promotes it.

Whenever, I don't even think I promoted it today, I need to start promoting it, you're right. I don't know what's happening with that one, but. Mind you, y'all are gossiping over there. Six months later. I take these hot topics and it's like there for the next six months. Oh my God. Which is always,

it's a vibe then too. But you know, there it is. We love it. We love jorts. We love the canceled girls and they'll be just fine, you know? Yeah. Call Our Daddy is crazy though when you think about how Alex Cooper is like, and you know, I wonder if Sophia regrets it. Do you ever really, really answer that question? Which means she regrets it. Yeah you ever really, really answer that question? Which means she regrets it. Yeah. Which is crazy. Don't you think you'd be like, damn, yeah, hindsight.

Well, because it's like, you know, when you go, like, imagine you have the lottery ticket and you didn't send it. You know, it's that. So she lives with that forever. You know, it's like she was so close. Because she had said a couple of times that she didn't regret it, but I was like, you have to regret that now. Yeah.

The biggest guess she has is James Charles. James Charles. James Charles. James Charles. James Charles. James Charles. James Charles. Like she was so close because she had said a couple times that she didn't regret she didn't regret it I was like you have to regret that now Yeah, the biggest guest she has is James Charles and the biggest guest Alex Cooper has Kamala Harris I would be Seething I'd be resentful. I would be a little true. I'd be so mad Y'all wouldn't even be able to hear the end of me

I know you think she'd go more hard on it Because even the James Charles episode didn't like kill it in views. You know what I mean? But I feel bad that does that does suck You're forever seeing that and you're just like you can't escape it. That's the word and she just gets bigger and bigger She's just doing like documentaries a billionaire She's just doing like documentaries. A billionaire. Like selling it for 160 million. I was like that.

Siding Harry jowzy. Oh, well, one L. That's L for the chat. There you go. That's a good term. I know. I had a chat. Who did we see?

And chat. We're done. I'm saying this is a chat. Sorry. What's up chat? Go look at the Bible blogs. Anyways, I'm just. I don't want this to end.

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