Just Trish - Just Trish Ep 236

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

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Our Trish Cruise might not be happening. Why? I feel like, you know, everyone asked me about it, because did we talk about it on the podcast, or did I tell you? I was telling you everybody. I was telling glam, I was telling dancers, I was telling everyone, like,

we're doing a cruise next year. Like, oh yeah, what was? She's like, hi, this is Alexa. How dare you? Mom, stop it. Filthy, rich, pretty, and pick hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks she's just true. Yay!

Hello, welcome to the late night edition of Just Trish. Maybe morning when you see it. I wonder if you can tell the difference in the vibes versus we usually film like 9 a.m. versus now it's about 6 p.m., which is like so late, the travel day I had. Hi, welcome to Jess Trish. That was a horrible intro. I'm sorry.

Welcome to Josh Tredge. Hope your week is going strong last week before Christmas break. Woo! Belis Navidad. Felice Navidad. You'll spare on your valise and dad. I think that's like Happy New Year.

Bible loves this song too. It's a great song. I should do a cover of that song. Feliz Navidad. Feliz Navidad. Baham, bum, bum. Feliz Navidon. You'll spare on me.

Obelicidad I want to wish you a Merry Christmas I want to wish you a Merry Christmas I want to wish you a Merry Christmas from the bottom of my heart and Hanukkah and Kwanza and if you're an atheist enjoy that day off whatever it is you celebrate Boxing Day helps a good one okay that's the intro we want to see hi guys happy week no honestly We have this hot topics. We have one of Oscar's favorite guests coming this week. And then we'll have one more hot topics for next week before we take our little Christmas break. It has been nonstop and go, go, go.

Oscar will be joining us soon. Today has been, we were supposed to be starting at 3.30. I'm not trying to bore you too much with the details because it's fine. We're here. But the travel day should take me like six hours to get home. It took like literally 12 hours. I kept having to push it. It was a crazy thing.

And then we're also on the six. six to eight time crunch. So we're like, okay, we'll just start. You know, Oscar, he knows those hot topics. He'll come in. It'll be fresh and fun. And, um, thank God for hot topic. Or, and Oscar.

Thank God for Hot Topics and Oscar because I, once again, was on tour this weekend with the Trishmas Live show. Um, and it was wonderful and great. But I don't have much time to scroll on TikTok. So I have a few hot topics. Moses and I sent Hot Topics. We said not Hot Topics. We sent TikToks to each other.

I'm like, ooh, could be a hot topic sometimes. Um, mine was, well, you'll know what. mine is in a second. But thank you guys so much for coming at to Trishmas this year. It has been so great and so wonderful. And so many of you have showed up to so many shows. A lot of the same people come back. So thank you. I have one more show. Last show is in Vancouver. One night only Vancouver, Canada. And if I'm my passport, it's next Monday, December 22nd. Come see us. I'm super excited. I have never been to Vancouver. I love Canada. I love Canada. We're just talking about like literally I feel like Canada is the move. If I was going to move anymore, I'm

think I moved to Canada. People are really nice. I think you guys all have some free health care, right? They can't have like babies for free up there, I think. Yeah, babies for everyone. Love that. As they should, we're talking about babies. I'm like, why is it so expensive to have a baby? Like you're adding to the population? Like, why is it costing us money? Like what? So shout out Canada for doing health care right, having a prime minister that's dating Katie Perry and those putteen fries, which I've never tried. But they look good. The gravy. We love guys. So come to Trishmas.

I think that's actually almost sold out. If it's not sold out, it's like 98% sold out, so check it out. But thank you so much. And we also have new T-shirts. Heavily meditated, our new shirts. It is a cropped baby towel, and this shirt has been three years in the making, too. It's taken so long to get here. But it's here.

As is our just Trish pajamas pants, they're almost sold out. Actually, a lot of sizes are sold out. We also have cups for the holiday season. If you order today, you will still get it in time for Christmas, but you'd have to order it, like, today as in, like, today. And yeah. So there's that. Thank you all for coming to Trishmas. Yeah, I came back from Philadelphia today. And wow. Yeah, that was crazy. It was good. I mean, you know what? Everything like on good timing. I was like maybe like the snow. I think there was like no visibility. And then they had to like defrost the runway for every plane. So honestly, just happy we made it back. No, it's amazing. You can fly in those conditions. Yeah. Honestly, yeah. I didn't know if we make it back. And then we're shooting this on a Sunday night. Normally shoot Monday because tomorrow. I am filming my very big secret project.

It's my second day filming this very big project. So I'm really excited for that. I have to be up at 4 in the morning. It should have to be at 3.30 in the morning. And Moses's Bolognais is ready to go. Ready to go. So there's a lot. And my dad's upstairs.

So like there's a certain amount of time anyways. But we're here. I'm excited. I'm excited. I love doing this. I do love doing this. I think that's why I was like so like bummed is because I was like, okay, I don't want to miss.

I don't know, I'm very, like, I don't want to miss an episode, you know. Never. Especially because we are taking a break. Moses said the other day, he's like, I kind of think we don't need to go on a Christmas break for the podcast. I'm like, I think maybe yes. You were like, no, it's easy. It's just a couple.

And I agree with you. But, I mean, we need a little break. We do just go nonstop. I just think about our audience, but luckily we have Patreon. So, you know, go there. Patreon.com. It's like five bucks, ten bucks. But you have probably a thousand videos so you can binge over the holiday.

and just watch and they're timeless all your reaction videos like there's videos there Patreon.com slash just Trish extended podcasts and the bonus videos that's where the gold is the bonus videos is where it's at so on the break don't worry you can see us as much as you want I feel like you wanted to keep the podcast going you like doing the podcast I would

for me it's like you know me I'm like consistency is number one for people because it's like this is our like little social hour that we get with each other well like we like I said yeah she walks in the door I'm like no keep it for the podcast sometimes sometimes I'm like what's your hot topics you're like oh I'm gonna let you we do that with guests guests come in and you guys start talking I'm like no wait

yeah we do have a little a little key sush that's what we say keep it for the podcast congratulations are your award over there thank you we got our Spotify which I think they just kind of gave out the same award to it's an award okay it's heavy thank you Patricia Paitis, the Eternal Optimist, Optimist, Optimist Award. Thank you, Spotify. If we were on your Spotify wrapped, thank you guys so much. It's nice to be acknowledged. We didn't even see the blink dominoes.

Oh. Should we get them? We'll bring them in a minute. Yeah, yeah. I'll keep talking. You guys, the holidays are here. Christmas is just around the corner. How are you doing, Jimmy, our editor?

Now, how are you guys doing, Jimmy, I do want to know how you're doing. I wasn't just going past that. We definitely really got to like, I mean, we elaborated, but yes, I got to star in a Domino's commercial. It was three, really, three sponsored posts just back to back to back. Your girl got sponsored. Look at these blinged pizza boxes. They made us. Ooh, look at those pizza.

So the lava cakes are still happening. Not sponsored on the podcast, but we're trying to get another brand deal. So many people are like, Trish Pizza when? And I was like, I know, right? you know thank you seriously even they were like this was great thank you for the response like you guys all really showed up because who gets excited when someone's sponsored like most time people are like enough with the sponsored post but y'all were like yes finally trisha got that domino's bag i mean it's authentic i don't think there's a more authentic collaboration i got the lava cakes this

weekend you can still get free lava cakes happy b day is the code when you put ten dollars or more on dominoes this podcast is not sponsored by it was sponsored last week and it was the highlight of my life I got to say happy birthday to them. It was funny because they put out like a compilation of a bunch of influencers saying happy birthday before mine. And everyone's like, where's Trish? And then they posted it actually right away because people were wondering where I was. So again, thank you.

You guys, you know, I'm just, this is the dream. This is, I think this might be my peak 2025. I don't know. I think there's a lot of peaks, but maybe Domino's is the peak. So thank you. We love those lava cakes. We've eaten them all weekend. Moses sending me pictures of the kids eating them because they sent us home with like a ton of lava cakes.

You know, because I was going to order cakes last night, and it was too late. I was like, oh, you know what? I have some lava cakes in the freezer. Just pop them in. Yeah, they were, they're wonderful. Yeah, they gave us like this whole tray of lava cakes in there. Delicious. So get yours today.

But we're home. I love traveling. I love being home, too. Yeah. I mean, we should have on a cruise or something. Well, there it is. Should we go with that or should we see if Oscar will be here to talk about the cruise? Should we probably talk about the Jay Shetty one first?

because I feel like that's the more. Yeah, I feel like, you know, Oscar loves a Jojo hot topic. I mean, we only have two hot topics between me and Moses. It's Jojo or Jay Shelly. There's more. There's more. Okay. Yeah, but Jay Shetty is one that.

You just sent me and I saw that. I was like, that's a hot topic. I want to talk about it. Yeah, I don't even know if it's like that hot of a topic. But for some reason, I don't even know if it's like, I think it might have been like in November. He talked about it or. Because it reminds me of the guy that you don't like so much from a podcast and he made a song and something about the birth. And he was all.

Oh. man abbey yes oh right it's kind of the same it's the same type well oh no i don't think so i think it's still a different because it's it's like two very different things okay because they're basically both talking about postpartum for men now i do believe this is like a real thing for men i'm not like one to be like obviously like hormones aren't changing but like a lot changes so i think even though i do not like madnabby like i don't like their rage bait of it all um and they're going through it like they went through a tough time recently um what they put out in the past like you know I was the rage made of it all was but I I get a why men can go through postpartum I believe it

not like a hormonal thing but I believe that they can probably suffer from some sort of depression let's say what Jay's Shetty said so Jay Shetty was on his podcast was I think it's his wife that he was talking to oh I didn't know that okay I would assume I don't know um but he was talking about how men go through postpartum, and that's why they cheat. He's basically like paraphrasing here. Most men feel after their partner gives birth that they feel unloved, they feel like a second priority, and they feel unthought about. Yeah.

And that's also why the trends show that more men are likely to cheat at that time. No way. when either when their wife are pregnant or when their wife gives birth because again i'm not condoning this i'm just talking about the statistics because that's when they feel neglected men cheat because they're no longer i priority like once the baby's born they're not the priority and they they lack attention they're like what about me and if they don't get it that's why they got on cheat now he does say he doesn't condone it he's like these are just stating facts but i'm also like why are we putting this out there like why are we even because

it's like is it facts what's the percentage and also like, or are they just awful humans? I mean, we hear about a lot of cases like that. So it happens a lot, but the framing of it is weird to me. It's like the framing of it is like, man, don't get attention. They go seek it elsewhere. Yeah. Instead of saying men are not, okay, let's say if you want to be super like,

men are not prepared for what's coming. And then they get, like, there's so many ways to say it that are not. excusing it or not I don't know the framing of it is weird because I don't care okay there could be a hundred million reasons for your wife not to give you attention or sexual attention yeah for many different reasons yeah which are all valid and you have to learn how to work with it with them together and before you go cheat like cheating is the basically when you say I'm I'm done I'm gonna cheat I'm gonna you know cheat on my children I just had a baby I'm I'm going to show my wife.

I'm going to break everything around me. I'm going to destroy the family that we're bringing together. That's what's happening in reality. Right. And my first thought was just like, what about the women also not getting attention? You know what I mean? Like, they're also not, you don't get your hair done. You don't get your nails done.

Your husband probably isn't like, you know, like you're not getting the attention either. And you have to take care of a baby. And you probably have to feed the baby. And you just birth the baby. And your homeowners are all changing. And you just went through all these like, like, so yes. men probably are not getting as much of attention but neither is the woman neither is the mother that

just gave birth to the baby like no one's getting attention the baby is getting all the attention so it was like a weird argument I guess and it's like men can go physically women can't even go out and cheat not that you ever feel like it as you know if you give birth like very few women are like horning right away after they give birth you know so it's like and on top of that you're bleeding so physically like it just there's wounds there's wounds you just can't physically have sex because it's dangerous so and time like you have no time to see a friend yeah i mean okay it was a clip it wasn't edited but maybe there was like a bigger context to what they're talking about because his wife is there and i will say i think it's his wife i'm not sure i'm pretty sure it is because

he was talking and she goes she was just like you know he said men are no longer priority and then she's like as they shouldn't be like she's she was quick to come with it so um the lady he was interviewing or it was with i think it was his wife said in the caption she was like yeah why would they be. She was, like, very quick to, like, defend it against him. I like Jay Shetty. I'm trying to get on that podcast. I like him, but also, sometimes a man is still a man where there takes her. It's just, like, a weird thing to even acknowledge, because it's like, especially Jay Shetty, right? Former Monk Enlightened, which I love, which we love. But it's also, like, I don't know. I wasn't here for it. And I was like, you know what? And I commented on all those. I was like,

oh, can never be, can ever be my man? You know what I mean? At least as far as, like, giving the birth part, you know what I mean? I never want to say, could never be my man on certain things, but for the baby deliveries. We've done it three times. Yeah, you stayed up. We know it. Because so many people I talked to too will be like, oh, my husband went home or my husband fell asleep. Like if it was late at night or something, like, oh, they fell asleep or they, you know, never once did you, which was, you know, I acknowledge that you are, you're very superior when it comes to parenthood, I think, than most parents, because you just know and you're just on it. I don't know how you have the energy.

I don't know either. Even this weekend. In general, I'm just high energy. Like, in general, it's not just with the kids. Well, and you're 10 years older than me. I was like, geez, I'm like, the energy you have is insane. I think that's what people think we're the same age, even in our real life. They're always like, when I'm like, oh, yeah, Moses's birthday.

They're like, I'm going to tell marriage. You're like, it's crazy. You definitely feel younger than me. But it's funny, because we talked, we did a whole episode for Not Lovelin Patreon. And we talked in depth about our relationship. Yeah. So we did talk. a lot about that so it's like something out love line patreon just to be clear yeah it's interesting like

to i don't know like one thing we kind of learned from that is like men needs to be prepared for what's coming because it's like the woman goes through nine months of body changing hormonal changes like so much and uncomfort and pain and stress and also worry you know from the day of the birth and the day of the birth is such a I mean the pain alone the worry it's like and I remember the first time going in like not knowing what's going to happen how it's going to happen and sure enough we ended up with like emergency C-section it's like so much going on and then your body crashes into like you know hormonal change there's and your life changes completely because now you have a baby that's there 24-7 that's it that will never change and some people get stressed about it

and post-partum and all that. So learning about it. Yeah, for the men to not be ready that your partner is going to go through a lot, you don't need to seek attention at that point. You need to give the attention. You need to care. You need to be present. You need to be able to do a lot more than you used to,

no matter what used to do before, even if it was zero. Yeah, even like scientifically the man will be better equipped to handle the changes as opposed to a woman who's like scientifically like changing and can't control it like it was scary I would say both my first and my third pregnant delivery I had like really bad postpartum and like I didn't even know even with Aquaman like some like just like out of nowhere we just have these really awful moments and I'm just like and you're like you can you like I'm almost can kind of understand it and see it happening and you're just like I can't like I can't control this like it's like it's very

surreal but yeah I mean if you like you said if you're if you're cheating on your wife right after she just gave life to your child. Like, she is the reason your child is there. Like, and probably, like I said, like, half the time they're feeding your child. Like, a lot of times, like, when women breastfeed, probably half the population are more breastfeeds. Like, they're feeding your child. Like, with that body that you're like, I'm just going to go cheat.

Because a lot of people said that we're no longer attracted to their wives either after they've given birth. And I'm like, I mean, your body changes. But if you're, like, a man that leaves. your wife because her body changed is crazy that and that was the other thing we talked about was the foundation for marriage can't be just around yeah um there's a few things some people get together because they like the same vices like they oh i love to drink you love to drink we're having fun together or smoking or whatever anything else and and the other side of it too is like

attraction if you don't know that one day your partner is going to change and age and those kind of things It just all, to me, it all sounds childish, but I am older too, so. Yeah. But it is a very childish perspective of what relationships are or what your wife's... I think it's like older men too. I think it's men in their 30s and their 40s that are doing this too. I mean, it's like, I looked up, I did look up like divorce rates in like their 40s and it's like, like, yeah, three to four years after having a baby is like the highest for... Yeah, that's always been.

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couple so much. I never, we watched Love is Blind like here and there. We don't watch all the seasons, but there was like a season like maybe four, maybe three seasons ago. There was a couple named Alexa and Brennan and I like love them. I like followed them. They just had like a baby like a year ago. And they got divorced and I was like they were such a good couple. But I will say I was a fan of them. But I was watching clips that resurfaced on TikTok of like the reunion and they were giving so much Nicole. Was that a same? I remember like judging specifically Brennan not trying to like, you know, make a monster of the man. But Brennan was this like, dude, that's like, not cool. Like, you're not a man and something like that. But now that more divorce,

the details of their divorce is coming out, it's not, you know, most people, when they check divorce, what do they check? It's like irreconcilable differences. This was like, well, I don't know what it was, but it was something that wasn't that. I can't think of what it was after, like, Jimmy, maybe you can insert it. Something where it's like never getting back together, basically. And you're just like, hmm, that's so weird. And she had said, like, he was he was basically misusing funds was like this whole like it got like so then you're kind of giving side eyes sometimes you're just like that's why I never want to be like too above anything because you just never know when things can flip a year like you just had gave birth a year and they were so like loving they have like this beautiful little girl that they share it's like it's like it just like it makes me sad for sure but it's just like I guess that's why they stay together three to four years before the divorce it's like because it's hard to like but then if you're guys cheating on you while you just had a debate, I don't know, what do you do? Not saying that with Alexa and Brenna, but. Yeah, and imagine you're in postpart and you have to deal with that

at the same time. And then you're like alone. Because here's the other thing. I will always say this. When parents get divorced, like the moms usually get full custody and they probably want the full custody, but it's like, then the dads could just go be part-time dads. They just get them on the weekends and they had to have their week and like, okay, we'll see my baby on the weekend. Maybe it's not ideal for anybody, but it is like the mom seemed to also have to take on most of the work because then all of a sudden the dad's up and gone because he cheated and you're just like now I have work and the baby and it's just like I guess they I saw a quote today that's like don't worry about having babies late or marrying

late or something it's just like worry about marrying the right one or having babies with the right one and I think that is the most important thing but you just never know at the end of the day you really don't know I mean you could have like the perfect relationship and it could it could switch but yeah the men cheating and blaming postpartum does not fly with me I don't think that's an excuse you can have postpartum for sure I don't think one of those you know reflections

is cheating I never heard of a woman postpartum be like I really need to go cheat it's always like how am I going to stay alive basically but anyways Lexa Brennan I'm very sad about that also you shouldn't be judging other couples but love is blind

it's a show at the end of the day I know somehow it relates to blind you remember we talked about the Waymo cars the cars that drive themselves? Yes. Did you see... Esther?

Esther? Oh, what were you going to say? Esther, you know Esther from Trash Tuesday? Yeah, what happened to her? Her Ramo got an accident while she was in it. No. And she was filming it. And there's like a person that comes up and is like,

hi, we're trying to fix your Waymo. Basically, the camera got smashed because they were on a little street. And she says she takes Waymos all the time and she doesn't know why they went up this little street. They went up the little street. And like a truck was trying to go past it and like, smashed the camera in the back basically so now it's missing a sensor yeah so they got her another waymo they're like we're calling another waymo to you right now but she's like what happens to that

waymo but it's really interesting so she just like sit in the car and be like talking to like basically a customer service person being like well whenever you text waymo on your phone it's it corrects it to way no way no way no anyway so somebody was somebody called her waymo for their daughter and as she was getting into the car she noticed there's a man in the trunk of the car it's like a hatchback so you can reach from the back of the car to the back seat and she's looking there and there and they're like what are you doing there they're like oh i don't know they put me here couldn't get out i'm like something weird oh here in the u.s yeah they're only here yeah probably san francisco oh why san francisco because i think that's where they started

or San Jose. But that's where they started. Now they're going to start here soon. But there was a man in the trunk. And then what, what they say? What was the conclusion? Well, luckily they saw him before she got into the car. Oh, oh, no. Yeah. I guess that could be the same for Uber. Always check the back seat. Can I tell you, even in my car, I always checked the back seat. When I used to go to church on Sundays, like, what was it called? Like, catechism. It was like, basically Sunday school. But I guess when you're like older, they always have like speakers come. And like, I just remember someone being like someone in the back. seat someone was in the back seat and they like

of her car while she was pumping gas that they got in the back seat so now I always always am like chucking in the backseat you should always do that anyways I guess but I guess that makes sense in a waymo I guess how do they know you got out hello we waited we saved a hot topic for you I was like oh wow okay you were good you were great

thank you so sorry for all the chaos today oh my god just 5,000 things happening how are you? How are you doing? Sorry I know it's like late. Is it late? Do you feel late? I feel like it's late. Well, he's been going out every night. It's just another night out. My voice is so gone as well.

I was trying to be on vocal, I know. I was on vocal rest today. It sounds good. Are you okay, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just was screaming a lot. But I was on vocal rest, but Darien was rage-baiting me a lot, so my vocal rest was like not successful. I kind of love this. Wait, who do you sound like?

Oh, God, you sound, okay, it's going to come to me. I'm scared. Oh, you sound. Well, luckily it's a short one. We have 90 minutes, so you have a short one today. It sounds good. Do you feel okay?

Yeah. Just the voice. What were you school? You went two nights and a row. I went two nights and a row to Katzai, which was the time of my life. This is the first time hearing myself talk. It sounds so different. Try to sing some Jojo Siwa songs.

Come as a bitch. Oh, wait, I'm kind of ate that. Oh, my God, I can't eat that. You sound like someone. Like Jojo? Tony? I'm done. No, you sound like someone.

I'm so dead. God, that is so crazy who you sound like, I don't know. But yes, I went to Katzai, too nice in a row. The first night, whereas the tickets that you got me for my birthday. Shout out, Siki, our sponsor today. That was, yeah, and it was crazy because it felt like so long ago, like when you, like, when you gave me those tickets, I was like, December is so far. And then it came, like, kind of out of nowhere. Yeah.

But, yeah, I went on Friday to the L.A. show. And then the day that you gave me the tickets, they added the second date. And I was able to get tickets to that date. And then you gave me the tickets, like, later in the afternoon. And I was like, well, I guess I'm going twice. Oh, because you didn't know. Yeah. Because I got the tickets for the second night before you, hashtag gifted me tickets.

Yep. Okay. I thought you just loved it so much for night. You're like, I'm going to go back. Which, honestly, yeah. Everywhere. Is that we're at the Hollywood Plenium? Yep.

That was night too. And everyone was there. Asper was there. I saw Ezra there. I saw everyone there. I was like, okay. Yeah, the girls and gays and these were all. How was it?

Kind of the best ever, the best ever. Night one, we had seats thanks to you. And then night two was like standing. So night two was a little bit rough. And it was like, I realize I'm just, yeah, it's like a massive room. And everyone's just standing. Oh. And I saw like TikToks like from the night before of people camping out like to get in for.

And I was like really nervous. because it was so intense, but I was like, you know what, like, let me just go and be free and have fun, and I'm so glad I did. Night one, I wore my Tricia shirt, and then we had the photo op after. Yeah, so they do photo op. It's a little diabolical, though,

because, like, it's not like a meet and greet. It's literally a photo op. They're on little stools, and then you walk in, they wave at you as you walk in, and then they take the photo and then yell out, they yell at, not the girls, their team, like yells at you to leave. It's a love and shove, I think.

And it's just 12 people. Like, it doesn't matter who you came with. Like, it's 12 people. Oh, in one photo? In one photo. No. Yes. It's a little diabolical.

Because when I read it, I was like, a group up to 12 people is like what I thought. Oh, no. But it's like 12 people. You're in there with like strangers. It's like, okay, girl. Yes. Right. Just good luck.

You're all here. Oh, no. Wait, you have, you didn't post the picture. They sent it to us like a week later. What? I haven't even have them yet. Yeah. Oh, I want to see.

I'm so curious. So night one, we did the photo op because both my tickets had the photo op. And Manor was sick, so she, like, barely got better enough to perform, but she didn't do the photo op. But still, I wore my Tricia shirt, and I walked in, and, like, the girls are so sweet. Like, they wave and they say hi and just, like, compliment you. And then Sophia pointed out my shirt immediately, she had, the shirt. And then Laura looks over and was like, I need that shirt.

And I was like, it was such a. hit. Did they recognize you? Okay, so... Did you take the shirt off and give it to her? Honestly, I thought about it. I thought about night too. I was like...

People did that to me at me. You're like, take the shirt. I obviously was like, should I just throw them in a shirt? And then, um, so it was kind of a gag and I was like, wait, it would be gaggy if I show up again tomorrow in another Trisha shirt. And that's what I did. You did? I didn't see the second one.

Well, the second one is like a baby girl tea. So it's tighter. So I like went with my cat's eye tea. And then after the shirt. show I switched quick change into my Tricia shirt for the photo op and it was such a hit again because I think it was so gaggy that they're like because I Sophia saw me first again she went oh and then she looked at me she's like wait you're back and then Lara again and then Manal was at the photo op for night two and um this is when I kind of blacked out she I was like right

behind her is like where they yelled at me to stand and then she turns around she goes I like your shirt and then she looks at my face she goes oh my gosh hey and i was like no oh my god okay we love best i love i want the non-nation hat i can't find it i went to go look for it and i was like where do they sell it like i know like is it custom i have no idea but i was like we'll do a swap like we'll give you a tea if you give us all the teas we don't know where we got it from but we'll find it on some red bowl wherever it was from oh my gosh yeah because night two was the i'm canceled again I wore to Trishman. Yeah, that one was great.

And I feel like the girls can relate to that because everyone's always on their neck these days. Yes. But I was like, once she like clocked me, I was like, I was like so gagged. Also, I got separated from Daring in that photo because he's short, so he put him like in the front. It was a mess.

They said short people in front. Yes. It was a mess. And also there was two like really hockeyes and luckily they're on the complete other end. Okay, so you can crop them. Yeah. And also I'm like, I'm right, I'm at the end right behind Manor

so I can like crop it. So it's just. Oh, so you're, I thought you guys were in front of them. They were, like, on bar stool, like, stools, and then we're standing two rows of people behind them. Okay. It is a crazy photo. And it feels like the airport, kind of, because, like, there's so many people yelling. You're, like, line up, line up.

Come on, come in. Hurry up, faster. And then, no, 12 people. And it was, like, so crazy. Oh, my God. And you have to put, like, all your stuff on a table and then go in. Then they're yelling at you, take out your bag. Phone's here.

Like, it literally feels like TSA. And then you put and then they were like yelling at you to run in get the photo the girls are so sweet and like trying to get as much time But like everyone's like yelling at you. Oh I had to like let go so many people at my meet and greets that because people would like scream at them like there was only one show and I was like There was like that lady needs to go because sometimes what they do is like I don't know for cats I but like with mine they have like local hires sometimes to help the line and there was this one lady that was like I don't know if you were there or not they were like screaming at the people like move get out move like after like literally

a second like they'd be like hydrant no move it I'm like oh my and I literally to tell the lady like you need to chill because that was crazy so I think yeah that is annoying when they have like a bad yeah how many people do you know it's a lot so I understand why yeah because it was like I think

300 so oh they met everybody that came to the show no it's like the VIP package it was like 300 people yeah It was a lot. They do 12 at a time, so 10 times it's 120 people. Okay. Yeah, well, the way they have it, I get it too. I get it too.

Like, obviously you can't like talk to everyone, but. You'll meet like 75 people and you give each one a lot of time. Do we know? So in their case, it would be like a thousand people. Plus they have like the mean greet from like people from like the label or whatever. You know, like the first night Robin Thick was in front of me. And I and his son. Wait, with what in the mean greet?

He sat right in front of. of me on night one and then they had like I could tell they have the like friends and family like meeting greet or before that northwest and Kim Kardashian were there so they had a meet and greet before our I see yeah you see I met friends and family yeah do you did you say anything like oh I was entertained tonight with you guys and no because it's so really it's like so way like not even a minute and not even a minute and like after Manal like clocked me like then while we have the pose right away I don't know where I was looking I don't know what pose I was doing I can't to see this like i full disclosure that photo is going to be so retouched and so face tuned and i literally

want no one to be like we want to see the real you no like that is going to be no it is going to have like a completely different like i'm going to take my face from a different photo yes because i am so concerned with all 12 people honestly t so it's i was going to say one of those people have an untouched photo of you and it'll be out there anyone can access that like they send a link to the photos. Oh. And I think it's just like on their website. Yeah, mine's like that too.

So literally anyone can get it and like clock me. And then the gag is I don't even care of. Because all I care about is the one I'm posting where it's like me standing behind and all. And I'm gonna look gorgeous. Just crop you too if you're right behind her. I'm gonna crop it. I'm gonna look gorgeous.

I'm gonna look like a completely different person and I'm like at peace with that. Okay. So. Was there an upgrade? Like, can you pay a little more to get like individual photos? No, there's only like GA or like VIP. And even when I bought my ticket. Because for the VI, the ones that you bought, I didn't even know it had, like, the follow-up and everything.

But I think just, like, any seat, kind of like Trish-Mish, I guess, like any seat in, like, the certain sections is, like, VIP. Got it. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Do you know how much? It was not that. It was, like, $200, so, or, like, $2.15. I found out, I share a lot of fans with Addison Ray,

and I found out, I did. Like, everyone's like, I saw it, right here, like, two months ago. Brian, shout out, Brian Dakota, seen her 27 times on tour. Yeah, he's like, but she brought me up on stage. I'm like, for 27 times, my God, you can come on to her if you can see at the bus. Her meet and greets are $1,000, but you get a sound bath with her. That's kind of worth it, I guess, right?

But it's kind of the gag is there was a one sweet girl who she's come to a couple of my shows. I want the hair names for privacy. Brian doesn't care, but like she's come to a couple of my meet and greets and she did Addison. And she was, yep. And I said, so what is it? She said, yeah, for 10 minutes, you just sit in silence with Addison. I'm like, that's crazy.

Do you get like a photo with her? Yeah, I guess afterwards you do get a photo But not a lot of talking time Just for like 10 minutes In the same room I mean it's kind of gaggy But at the same time a thousand Me next to our being like

Here's a thousand But anyways I guess that's better than nothing Because I think my chemical romance doesn't even do Like a group photo But yeah Group photos are crazy though I know it was like a little

Diabolical Because literally I saw the email Said 12 people per photo And I was like Okay well it's just me and daring So we're good And then I was talking And a lot of the girls knew.

Like, everyone kind of knows how it goes. So I was, like, asking them, I was like, so it's like 12 people per group. And they're like, no, it's like, you just get in a group. So then after that, I was trying to, like, look around. I'm like, who do I want to, like, have in my photo? Yeah. Because I also didn't want, like, little kids because I would have felt weird. Because there's a lot of, like, their spectrum was, like, 10-year-olds to, like,

40-year-old or 50-year-olds. Oh, that is so awkward, yeah. Yeah, it's a broad spectrum. So I was like... 10-year-old girls in photos. Yeah. So I'm like, let me just find people who I look like I'd be in a group with, you know? Oh, so you can stand next to the people you want to be with?

Yeah, they'd line you up and then like it literally just like they, one through 12. Like they almost like a ride at like Disneyland or something. Like, okay, go on. They cut you off each, each triple 12. Wow. Yeah, that's wild. I guess we could all just gone as a group. Like if you, Jimmy, our me and Moses, our boyfriends.

Yeah, that would have been six. We could have a just trash group, yeah. I like doing that house. Do you have to wait in line? Yeah, you wait in a line. Damn, you really were dead-ed. Yeah, and the Q&A, like there's a Q&A and, again, very Trish-Mish-coated. There's a Q&A and sound check, like, before the show that starts, like, at six.

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much to Morgan and Morgan for a sponsoring today's episode. So it's just like it's a long night like it's six hours of cat's eye which was a blessing you loved it I loved them so much like I loved the performance and they're all very sweet and like they were crying both nights because they were just like so thankful it was so sweet yeah because they're so fresh because my makeup arts ari is like a huge fan her and her daughter actually went the night of my San Francisco show like she did my makeup before and we had shows at same time and she literally was like okay we're gonna go off to cat's eye I was like okay I'm in the makeup state so I was like yeah but they like love love love cat's eye but

they were saying something like they don't even have like enough songs to do like they read props to them because literally any song they have ever gone in a booth and recorded a line for it was there yes every monster high theme song it's in the set list like literally the milkshake dance it's in the set list like i anything they've ever done it's in the set list okay so they gave it their all and they added like dance breaks and stuff to like make it longer as well yeah I heard the dancing wasn't, like, phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah.

And they are just like, and their label is like kind of brilliant because like you would think for like a smaller show because they're playing like smaller theaters, like 3,000 people or whatever. Which is insane. They're so popular. But they're set, like the pieces and the graphics and the package. Everything was like so beautiful and like high like budget. Like it felt like a arena tour, you know?

Yeah, I've seen like the stuff behind them, like the lots and stuff like that. Their creative team is like so brilliant. and I love their outfits, and I just, I love them so much. I love them so much. Trishmas and Katzai. We're giving one screen. The fact that the girls live for you was like so funny. Maybe just Manaw.

No, because Sophia, like, yeah, Sophia and Laura were really living for the shirt. I think Manaw, because I, she responded to my DM, so I think she just recognizes me the guy, the boy at the glasses who is the sidekick. So I'm like, first of all, I, she was the one too to DM me and be like we're right next. So we love them. We love them since the beginning. I know. They really are everything.

I know. I've given up even DMing because it's kind of like as in two. It's like once you were like a certain level of fame. It is a judge church curse. We're like we're on them early but then they just blow up too fast. Because literally like the during their sound check they're like, okay you guys one second went to do a photo shoot with Vogue really quick.

And then like during the sound check, Vogue comes out on stage and like does a photo shoot with them. Crazy. They're going to be at the frigging Mac Gala. Like they're just. They've blown up too fast. I think so. Like the Grammy nomination. They're like, they've blown up so much this year.

Grammys are so tight because they're best new artist. Yeah. Who's winning? Addison, Katzai, or Alex Warren. I'm thinking it's going to be Olivia Dean. Oh, I don't even know her. She has that song, Me and I Need. I feel like you haven't heard of it.

It's kind of a TikTok song. But she's very like. Oh, don't be the man I need. I did a little back to me. She kind of has that, like, vibe. I feel like she's kind of like timeless and I feel like Grammys usually go for like that kind of artist

but Katzai has been doing a lot of Grammys event like they did the Grammys concert at like the Grammy Museum and stuff so did Addison so the girls are putting in the work for that Grammy I'm definitely for Katzai Addison I have a feeling I feel like Alice Warren because that ordinary song they be put in every

but they like do it we told you if we have a Baby Shark playlist it's Alex Warren first like literally this summer yes every time we had a job different playlist. It was always him. And not to say whatever. I thought we had this similar fan base. I like did an Alex Warren shout out and everyone's just like, but then I asked NASM a photographer. I love her so much. And she was like, I don't think you always have the same thing.

But so I'm like, me and Alex Warner, she's like, no, I think it's like 40-year-old Mormon moms. And I was like, oh, I did not know that. I thought it was like, hype house. Addison, right? I was very, I was very mistaken about that. Yeah. Yeah. But I hope, I hope it's Katzai or Addison or Olivia Dean. I like that song. I like know that song. So. Yeah, I think, I mean, the race is kind of crazy for Best New Artist this year. Honestly, Grammys in general, I've literally no clue how anything is going to go. Well, I'm on that red carpet.

I'll get Katzai interview. I'll be like, oh, Manaw, right here. It's coming soon, right? Yeah, February, it'll be here before. My date is cleared. I cleared out all the award season dates, yes, because I'm not. We can't have another mix up. I was supposed to be at the Grammys last year.

I was like, ah. And so this year, I'm going to make sure I get there. We need it to happen. We need it to happen. Figure it out the way. Well, I'm glad you're here. Is this a cat's eye shirt? Oh, yeah, this is a cat's-sie jersey.

You look great in the pants? Like, a whole new person. Yeah, I know. I bought like big pants because of cats. I love them. You should do an outfit of the day because you came with these, like, huge flare. It looked good. You look like cat-back.

Is that what they wear? Because Arizada wore pants like this too. Okay. Yeah, I was like, I was truly, they're influencers. I was truly influenced. I was truly influenced. Because, like, they do make you look so teeny. Like, they're like tied around the waist

and then the flare, very Y2K. Yeah. You can bring those back. Well, from one crazy meet and greed to another, our Chish Cruise might not be happening. Why? I feel like, you know, everyone asked me about it, because did we talk about it on the podcast or did I tell you?

I was telling everybody. I was telling glam. I was telling dancers. I was telling everyone, guys, we're doing a cruise next year. And then it kind of disfizzled. In our chat, every time, every video in our chat, they're like, when is the cruise? Just Chish Cruz.

Yeah. We waited to talk to you about this. This is me was like the hot topic, and I just can't wait because I don't know. We have, okay, we don't have that. So I was just like, oh, okay, so every, and everyone, like, Jeremy, everyone's like, oh my God, when is the cruise? We're so excited. And I was like, I don't know.

It's like one of those things you, like, don't hear from. I'm like, maybe they're putting it together. Because you remember, they gave us a full itinerary. Like, we had events scheduled. We had, like, Bolanay's night on the cruise. We had a Benihana night on the cruise. Like, we had, like, so specific Trish things. There was going to be, like, a just Trish podcast live on the cruise.

Like, there was just going to be so many things happening. Performances every night. I was so excited. And I was like, oh, it's kind of weird to fizzle. I'm like, well, maybe, maybe. Should you like show him or? No. Well, he probably, I think he knows he was bringing up the notes, right?

No. Are the Cruz? You have no notes about the Cruz? No. About A Cruz? I heard inklings of a Jojo Sea Wall. It has a gross. Where they're all the inklings.

There's a whole thing. So you think they swapped you for Jojo? I, okay. Yes. I'm not trying to be Moses over here being like Kim Kardashian copies me but look I know they probably did have like

this like I mean there's probably ways to just insert people because I think like Bert Kreischer has cruises like I think there is ways to just like insert anyone into a cruise but because not me being in competition with a 22 year old being like oh my god me and Jojo but because I think me and Jojo

are relatively similar kind of I was just like no because it was like I thought maybe I just like wasn't cool enough or whatever like that No, I'm not saying Jojo's very cool I'm not saying she's not deserving of it

but it really did even the itinerary maybe it's more for kids I don't know who's her audience I think the target market is different they're like

you can make bows with Jojo and I was like yeah I was like okay and she does performances and says so she is doing

a full on cruise Royal Caribbean next year I was like I don't think my cruise is happening anymore I don't think the Trish Cruise

is happening it was so done like not done but it was just like they had a full plan and I was like so and I'm feel like our audience are cruisers, right?

Because I'm a millennial. Do you know what I mean? I think our audience loves cruises. I love cruises for sure. It could be a combination of all the cruise people, you know, the gay cruisers, the millennial cruisers. Like, I don't know. People who love water.

People who love water. It would have been so lit. I was so excited for our cruise, but Jojo Siwa is going on a cruise, which is, you know, kudos to her. I just was like so, so well. Can't there be more than one cruise or no? No. they said only one cruise one pop star a year on that cruise

and I also was just like because you remember her VIP was like 900 and it was like Oh my god eat pizza with her? Eat pizza and like set up. Remember it was like me set up? Yes. Check my drums for me. Like I like Hope us load the end of it.

But I don't think it ever happened because I was like what happened to that? I don't think it ever happened. She canceled that tour I think. Did she? Yeah. So maybe not hoping for it. But if she does cancel maybe I could come in last minute.

Maybe I'm the replacement in case she can't. You never know. Yeah, you never know what happens. I wish you're, well, come on to say. No, it's a flex. I was, I was gagged. When I saw everybody with the news, I was kind of like, all right, good for her. I love a, I love a Jojo.

Maybe we'll go on it. Not me. Okay. She's me by me, me and Oscar. I would go on me Jojo for me. I mean, not like, I wouldn't pay for it. No, okay. If I'm like, I have someone come with me.

It was fun. I would go on it. If I had the, like, the tying, I mean, their kids are probably too young, but I would go on it. I love how they're also, like, using her old Jojo image, like the bows and stuff like that to market this. So they must be targeting, like, kids or something and their parents.

Right, so then they have to get their parents to come aboard, too. Yeah, that wouldn't make sense. Cruises are not cheap. Cruises were fun. I went on, like, one crew. No, I went on two cruises, and they're fun. I wonder where it's going. Do we know?

They didn't say. Maybe in the text. That's crazy. Just, like, Booker, cruise and you don't know where going. I'm sure they tell you where you're going. Oh, so this is it. The cruise fair starts from $1,100 per person. Okay, not bad. But it starts there. So that's probably the base.

Yeah. And then it doesn't say. It usually includes food and stuff, though, too. Right. That's not a bad. It costs. Food and drinks and stuff. I'm happy for JoJo. But yeah, it doesn't say where it's going. First cast member. Coco Kay Island is where it goes to. Cocoa Island. Where's that? It's where Jojo's see where. was born. Oh, I guess like Bora Bora.

Oh, okay. Where's it departing from? Bore Bora so far. Like it's eight-hour flight. Oh, I have no idea. So are they going on from the East Coast? You mean like from Florida? Oh, wait a way.

Get a taste of Bora Bora Bola. So I guess they're having Bora-Bora-themed stuff. Oh, I love that. That's kind of everything. It's the Bahamas. Oh, wait, what? Why don't they just call it a Bahamas cruise? That's like also desirable.

That's so weird. Like the Bahamas is cute. It's lit. Why are they calling it a Bortis of Bora Bora? That's so odd. Okay. Maybe Chris Hughes will be there. Like I don't know.

It kind of sounds like fun. And even if it's not fun, like even if it's like a disaster, like that's kind of fun too, right? Oh my God. Like the Netflix like poop cruise one. That's crazy. Did we ever talk about that? You're like the second person who told me about this poop cruise. I started the documentary, but it made me a little sick.

yeah i don't even want to know yeah it's giving that from what i've heard about it or like firecurs no yeah not jojo but i'm just saying like when things go wrong i guess if people get hurt it's like not funny but like if it's just a little bit kind of like the oompa loopa thing if it's just kind of fun oh yeah if it's just i feel like cruises are kind of hard to mess up because at least the boat has like stuff but what about the poo cruise what happened there just it was like a plumbing actually there was a fire in like one little room and then it caused like the power to go out and then the plumbing something happened the plumbing that they couldn't use probably yeah and did poo overflow yeah that's so crazy

in people's rooms yeah that's crazy what do you mean but like did they get sued to oblivion like what do you mean there was i didn't finish the documentary so i don't know what happened to it's like cruise is like a flight you know the most they'll give you as credit for something else Actually, I do know too, because there was a case on the, there's a true crime case on a cruise recently, like the laws around suing in a cruise, like, because when cruising was becoming a thing, like the government made it basically harder to sue them. There's like all these laws and stuff where it's hard to sue out like on the open water or whatever. Yeah, like international waters. I've heard that too. There's like no like law, basically.

There's no, like no one to call. Like who do you call? You're in the middle of the ocean. Yeah. And there's lawyers. specifically to represent like clients who want to sue cruises because it is so hard to get money from them for like even something like a wrongful death even like it's so hard to get money don't don't go on a cruise unless it's the trish cruise unless it's the trip yeah i know maybe it's for

the better we didn't have but i was so excited it felt so real i wish i could show you guys the it was like trish themed everything was so fun and i couldn't wait well maybe this will be a success honestly i hope judges success that way they will pick me next I don't mind being second fiddle after Jojo for sure She can try it out test it out be great You know? Yeah Well yeah Oh yes

They've already cast it for White Lotus Did you see that? I heard that people were circling roles But there hasn't been a confirmation I mean I think Helen Born Carter is like Confirmed without being confirmed Because that was on you know what's real if it's like Pop Grave I think Pop Tings doesn't know as much

but I think pop cream seems to know because I saw that a lot and wouldn't that be a gag yeah that makes sense crazy who else with the other ones gosh from the Grinch Jim Carrey God the girl

let me get her name Taylor Momson not Taylor Momson Oh Christy Bransky Is that real or do people just make that Because now people are just like Charlie XXX They're just like saying I mean maybe Charlie XX I don't know The trades like

it's all like been like so-and-so is circling or like in talks but like it could go in talks can go like a lot of I thought that's pretty legit if it's in talks no it could like fall apart like contractually like scheduling or something so we'll see all right well I love her yeah I love her I was really like oh yeah there's like no greater person for the show yeah I like Christian Bransky do though both the both queens I'm not losing hope though because from what I've seen in your acting experience you kind of get added they announce everything

and then you get thrown in there so that's true maybe like a last minute yeah yes yes very yeah you're like the second wave of casting I guess okay yeah that's true it was the last wave for you for you yeah

I know we're doing that I was explaining before you got here we're doing this tonight because tomorrow I have to be on set at 4 a.m. Yeah crazy 4 a year I guess because the days are getting shorter so they need the daylight I guess yeah I was like

but I am my acting era and I'm a big scene tomorrow I'm a very big scene signing to like prepare for it tonight but I was preparing for it on the plane too but I don't know I went Helen and Bodom Carter I was like well I mean there's really no competing or joining I can't act next to that that'd be crazy of course you can't you're that's crazy amongst legends these days that's true yeah actually that's true right period okay you're yeah but she actually wouldn't intimidate me there's very few people who would and I feel like she would intimidate me and I think only her I wouldn't think of anyone else that I would be intimidated

to buy it but just her I love her like I feel like I haven't talked about my obsession with her for a long time but like clock it I've done her in Fight Club I've done her in Sweetie Todd like she's iconic yeah like I really do I had like a whole era about her but I never really got the same praise because I was what is it called internally misogynistic for a long period of my life I feel that where I really wanted to be here but I was like not going to acknowledge it because I'm like no yeah but like and when I watched Sweetie Todd I was like Johnny Depp he's amazing He's great. Even the guy who plays Beckna, so great.

But, like, I would never acknowledge Helen Bone Carter, who is the real star. What's his name? Jamie Campbell Pard. Yeah, he's great in that. But Helen Boulcar was a star. Because she plays Mrs. Lovett and she's the best, but I was just like, it was just such a hater. I was like, no. But she's great. Anyways, well, I don't know who I'm more jealous of.

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Thank you so much to seek geek for a sponsoring today's episode. Um, kind of related, I guess. I am obsessed with the fact that like the week Jordan Firstman is here, like the day later he gets canceled. I was texting him today. Well, he was texting me. I pan it so much. I panicked so much when I first saw it because, okay, that day, December 11th, which was our

anniversary was the day the day, the Jordan episode came out. He was also on Kylie Clarkson that day. I was like, oh my God. He was doing so much press on the same day. I know. Then the Volter article came out that day So all the things were happening that day And then I saw all the heat for heated rivalry

And I was just like oh my gosh And I was like was that on our podcast Because like gosh when people come on our podcast It's always like making news for like the wrong reason Well anyways I didn't think about it I was like you know what? No it can I have been ours like I feel of anything We were talking about how I was like you should have more sex on your show

Because he did rivalry Bumped them down I love LA Because they're going to change the title Yeah Well then he texted me today on this flight that I was, like, on a 12-hour delay, it was, like, so insane. He texted me. He's like, oh, my gosh, like, are you able to, like, edit anything out of the podcast?

And I was like, but I'm like, oh, I'm like, I don't think it was on our podcast. And he's like, are you sure? And I was like, then I saw an article that's like, he said it in Volta. I think it was the Volta article. Yeah. And I was like, okay, okay, good. Because I just didn't want people to go there and whatever. I'm like, no.

And I actually, not to be, because I'm his friend, but I was like, I actually remember talking to him last week about it and how he liked it. So I do think, obviously, whatever. But it just happens. Rachel Sennett gets heat too. I was like, like people just get heat once they start getting like fame.

You know what I mean? But I thought it was ours. I was like, oh my gosh. And then I was like, no, no. And if anything, Jimmy, you always know to like, we're always overly PC over here and woke. We try not to. No, gay, I'm gay hate.

Yeah. And then I felt bad because I was like, oh, no. And we are friends. And we are shooting a project together. And I was like, oh, no. And I was like, well, of course you can edit anything out that you want. But I was like, then I was like, then I, like, rewatched and I was like, oh, we didn't say anything bad about it.

So I was like, we're good. At least not on ourselves. I was like, there's other things happening in the world. Why would it? Did you have note on it? Well, it was so, all the girls are talking about it. Wait, really? I was like, it's not a big deal.

I don't know anyone talk about it. Oh, Jordan, I'm sorry. It's a huge deal. No. I was like, I'm only on gay Twitter. Moses hasn't heard about it. Moses, have you heard about it? Did you hear about it?

I did you hear about it. Oh, no, Moses. Well, you're also on gay Twitter. We're all on gay Twitter. That's how we did. No, I didn't care about it there, no. On TikTok? For me, it was all over my TikTok.

Sorry. Really? I swear I did it. It's going to be over. It will be over. It's going to be over. Do you have anything to do that to it? No, I was trying to understand what they were talking about.

I couldn't understand. You don't know? We don't know heated rival. You're not in that loop. You want to watch it together? We can't watch it. Is it the one that's a lot of sex scenes or? Sex, swallowing, frauding.

It's everything. The girls are trying to, I saw, a TikTok where a girl was like, I just saw frauding on heated rivalry, and I'm so sad that I can never do that. Frotting is. Connecting. Oh, my God. That is scientific. Via V-F.

Yeah, you're like rubbing it. Yeah. You love it? I don't let, I don't think I have experience with it. But girls are like, I want to do that. I don't want to do that. I saw a girl was like, really, it's like crying. She's like, I'm crying because I can never do that.

You could, I guess, if you inverted your clitoris. You know, there could be a little bit of that. Okay, I don't want to shame people with shth. Honestly, they showed that? I think it's eluded. Okay. Yeah. I'm not caught up.

I'm not caught up, but I'm trying to think. Like, did someone be like, oh, I love that. And give it to me. Like, what? That's, okay, I love it. Look, it's natural, honestly. It's probably more natural than being snipped, honestly. I didn't know that.

Yeah. It's pretty, you haven't finished it? I'm surprised. No, I feel like it's a time and place for heated rivalry, I think. You know what I mean? Yeah, you got to be in the mood for it. But honestly, like, because I think Jordan's argument to you, I, I am pro heated rivalry, obviously. I understand that perspective, though, because it does, I think I've been, me projecting here,

obviously, I've been in situations where, like, I am resentful because, like, damn, here I am, gay as hell. And then here's these really hot people who, like, may or may not be gay. and they're getting all the gay love and attention for being, like, gay in their show. But I'm like, I've been doing that for years and no one cares as much because they're so hot and, like, talented and sweet. So I understand being like a little jealous or like, you know, like resent, a little bit resentful because I've been there before. But I think at the end of the day, at least his representation. It's a number one show on Max.

So it's like, I think it's overall a good thing for the gay community to have like a show that depicts like gay relationships and romance. be like so mainstream. Because his argument or not argument, his take was that's not how gays have sex. Yeah, that is just like not realistic basically, but. But kind of what you said, like it's written by a woman.

So maybe it's not super accurate. I don't know. I think everyone's like experience is different. And I think especially like that type of male, like in the gay community is so like praise. like that archetype like muscular like the body that butt um straight passing the characters i mean yeah like so that like that archetype is so it's like if it's a food pyramid it's like the top of the gay food pyramid you know yeah so i understand you can be like a little bit resent

because when i was younger i was so resentful of that type because i'm like i'll never be that like i felt like almost like i didn't fit in the gay community because i'll never be that type you know um now I kind of just don't care, but... Yeah, that's the blessing with getting older. Yeah, yeah. Because I was like that, too, when I was younger. I mean, I always bring this up, but, like, the Tana when she was coming up and she was, like, 18 and fresh and young and skinny, and all the guys thought she was so cool. And I was like, but we're the same.

I'm just fat, and nobody likes me. I'm obnoxious, but she's, like, sexy and hot and cool and stuff like that because she's, like, the young, hot thing. So I get it. I get that, too. And then also when you're so close, because they both have shows on HBO Max as all things. So, yeah. Yeah, and both, like, depicting very different types of, like, the queer experience. Yeah.

I think, so, like, I understood his point. I think he just worded it very aggressive because he'd probably just be, like, I, like, you know when you're just in a room, and I think he knows the person, he knew the person who was interviewing him as well. Yes. They have a friendship.

So I feel like, it's what I did. So, yeah. Jimmy's like, here's what I edited. I said Jordan, the list. I'm like, well, just so you know, we edited this. He's like, love this list. Like, it was just, because, yeah, you feel.

Well, and that's what's the problem too with coming to this podcast because so many people do just feel comfortable. Yeah, you kind of forget that. And we like, actually edit that because people just be saying, whatever. Yeah. And then one of the guys clapped.

Yes. That's why it made news. Two of the guys clapped back. Both that? No. No. It was, I'm forgetting their name. Francois, I think.

And then, um, Hudson were the two that clap back. Yeah. What did they say? I didn't see it. I don't like to click on stuff when it is by friends because I'm like, oh.

It wasn't like terrible. Like Francois was like, let me get the exact quote actually. So I don't want to. He might be on when the next white lotus. Francois. He said, um,

Because just shared did the Instagram post covering it and Francois commented on it saying is there only way to have authentic gay sex on TV should the sex that closeted hockey players

have look like the sex that Sini LA gays have and then That's the thing that I said I couldn't understand if they were talking about people are looking like that or not looking like that

in the show I think he means like should it be like the because Jordan in English teacher and in like I love L.A it's like the it's very it's just very gay

like it's like party like messy party hookup day yeah yeah um so like I think that argument was like oh so is that the authentic gay experience but really it's like everyone every gay person experience is going to be very different so

and then Hudson reposted out his Instagram story and um said he added Franco's comment in there but then wrote go watch I love L.A. Jordan and the cast are great So, like, kind of being, like, seconding the comment, but then also being like, but love Jordan.

So it was like a... Oh, a little peacemaker? Yeah. Yeah, because when he was here, he was talking about how we need to stop gay on gay hate. And I was like, I agree. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we should also be happy gay sex is on TV, period. I think he, in the article, too, was like, because they said, I think he thought they were straight.

And we don't know their sexuality is to clarify. But I think he assumed they were straight. And the author or the person who was interviewing him was like, well, we don't. know the sexualities. So corrected him there too. But I think he was saying, Jordan said that statement, thinking that they were straight.

Yeah, which could make sense. So, yeah. Because I do, I think I can see the difference. Even with, like, straight girls when they have, like, sex without straight girls and, like, adult films and something like that,

it looks very different than, like, lesbian or bisexual or, like, queer girls having sex. Like, it looks very, like, convincing, but you can just tell. Like, you can always tell there's a little more. So I don't know. They look convincing to me,

but I don't. I don't know. But I don't know if two hard bodies have sex like that. Do two hard-gay bodies have sex like that? I want to know. Yeah, I was like, I feel like the hard-body gays I know don't always go for that. They like a little pudge, you know.

I don't know a lot of hard-body gays that don't go for other hard-body gays. It's like two rocks banging. You know what I mean? I don't know. The fantasy is nice, I suppose, but. At the end of the day, love more queerness. And, like, I feel like we're in age where, like, LGBT representation in, like, scripted shows is kind of getting smaller and smaller.

So I feel like at the end of the day, any show that's successful that's like centered around queerness is like a win at the end of the day, you know. Yeah. I think that's just the way you got to look at it, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, HPMX is very on, um, on that queer level because White Lotus was on HBO max. Yeah. They had queer sex or no.

Yeah. The brothers. Oh. I'm thinking of the one with the butt, with Lucas Cage eating the butt or getting his butt. That was also White Lotus, right? Yeah. Yeah. So they've been on that.

The brothers ones was a little girl. That was a little diabolical, but That one's weird Heated rivalry just became Actually, so Jordan actually kind of helped heated rivalry Because they wanted to know It became number one after

the drama with Jordan So at the end of the day He was working for that inside job With HBO Max He's like actually Synergy. Yeah, sometimes you have to have drama, you have the in-house drama

I know now Moses wide wants to watch it You're probably curious to know You might You might like it There's a story to it It's not just sex No, it's not that, like, you've watched fellow travelers? Yeah.

I think you would have liked that one, too. I just watched it by myself because I felt. Well, I guess maybe it's your fault where you presented it to you. Which one? Fellow travelers. Because then you presented this one as like that one even more. It was like, oh, I better watch this a little.

Because I would feel awkward watching it with you. I don't know. I like just watching a sexy man have sex. I like man on man sex. I like watching it. I do enjoy it. There is something more erotic to me about. I don't know.

If you like men, then yeah, there's more men. Oh, good point. Maybe that internalized misogyny was like me back in the day where it's just like, because even back in the day, I don't know what you call it, kink or whatever. I liked man on man in person too. So maybe that was, you're right. Maybe I was like, I don't want to see any women because my jealousy, I only want to see men. I don't know.

We should analyze that. Next time Dr. Drew's here. Yeah, it's a psychiatrist. We'll do that. Well, another HBO, another HBO show, Euphoria, the first teaser. first teaser came out finally. I really went frame by frame. I'm like, maybe Trisha's in here somewhere.

I was like, maybe just like, it'll just be like her hair, like a silhouette. I really was trying to find you in it. You know what? I have like my, yeah, I think my agent was there. Because how else? Oh, no, maybe it wasn't. Oh, I think it was, I think I won't say who on the crew, but someone snapped photos of me doing the scene.

So I have it with like the aforea clapboard in front of my face, but you can't tell like who I'm with. I almost wanted to leak that, too, to be like, look, Christian Payton's a man. I know. And I was like, let me not. Let me not be that person. I know. I unfortunately did not make the teaser.

I was kind of hoping, dude. I would have been so bad. Like just a little like flip of the hair or something like that. Oh, man. I did not. Are you excited for it? Does it look good to you? I'm very excited for it.

I think either way, like, everyone's going to be seated for it. Like, no matter what, it's going to be like such a moment in pop culture. And I'm so excited. I'm excited, too. I don't know what episode I'm on, but I'm excited. I think I'm going to watch it. I think I'm going to watch it in the beginning. I mean, you have to.

Well, I mean, the whole series is a dedication, but yeah, probably. I mean, eight episodes. I feel like you can make your one. Is it only eight? I'm assuming, because I feel like every, like, streaming show is eight episodes. Didn't they spend, like, 200 days filming this? They spent the whole year filming it? Oh, my gosh.

They really do take their time. Even though what I'm doing right now, too, is like, one episode is taken, like, three days. Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, White Lotus is, like, eight episodes. And they're shorter. But that takes, like, almost, yeah, six to eight months, so. That is wild. Yeah. I wonder why.

Because they move relatively quickly now that I've been on both of the, like, not both, not White Lotus, that's crazy, but euphoria and my other, this other thing I'm doing. They move quickly. I know. I don't know why either. I guess pre-production, production. But post-production is like so much after. But what I learned, too, is the post-production is happening like while they're filming.

Oh, really? Like they're sending it to editors. Yeah. Because I was like, oh, that's so fast. Yeah. I have no idea. maybe they just like to make people wait I don't know

Britishon's coming back soon that one's coming back I'm so they're doing press junkets for it I really was hoping we'd get in there as a fresh junket but I guess we didn't make it London though I would fly I would fly oh my God I'm so excited for this one too

I love Britishon's my all time phase well for euphoria Jacob Bellorty did actors on actors with Gwyneth Paltrow and she asked him about Nate Jacobs if he's going to be nicer this season and he said he thought he thinks that he will come across better in this season

but he did sound like he's nervous for this season for some reason he's already like whether the show works or not I don't know there's a chance that what we've done what I've done is not good I'm not sure Oh wow what a way to promote it I'm like well now you're making me nervous I can echo that sentiment on my behalf too

which I said it before I was like I know everyone's also shooting separately. Right. So you don't know how all these storylines are going to, like, fit together. Like, I don't think Jacob Belloria knows how, like, the Roo's storyline is going to go. Because from what we've seen or heard so far, it's very much, like, Cassie and Nate's stories, like, together. So I don't think a lot of them have, like, I don't know, the different storylines don't, like, cross from what we've known so far. So I think we'll see how it all.

yeah comes together I had a lot of improv in mind so I'll say that I had a lot of improv you know me with improv I'm not good at improv but I had to do a lot of it and I was like oh my gosh the pressure was really on I wonder if Jacob Allorty was improving to you I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I wish I could just say a little more I wish he would let me drop a little nugget I mean I mean it's not like you know little something would be nice I did love that I love that interview I reposted a quote my favorite quote and I always say this Jacob Allorty was talking to go in the balltro and she said you know my daughter loves you. My son's going to be so excited. And he's like, it's always my mom loves you. My sister loves you. It's ever I love you. And period. Why is that? Everybody I meet is always, always, you know, oh, can you say hi to my friend? Oh, my sister loves you. I need a picture for her. I'm so with him. Like, how come no one ever is like, oh, I love you? I love you that. No one ever says that. I feel like I am, see, I'm the person that goes like, I love you so much. But I feel like maybe it's a way to be cooler where it's like, I'm cool, but like this other girl I know loves you. So like not be like come across so a girl.

I feel like maybe that's what it is. That's the opposite, though. It makes me not want to take a picture because I'd be like, well, okay, I wouldn't be like, I don't know who you are, but my friend likes you. Okay, well, then why are you talking to me? Like, you know, I don't like it at all. I don't like that at all. And he was so real for saying that.

And he caught with Grinth Boucho. I said, you know what? I love you. I was like, no, you didn't say that. You said your dog. I guess I guess I've done that before. I think I've probably done that with like carrot top or something where I'm like my mom, but I was like, no, but I love you.

Like, I don't know. Like, why would you go up to someone you don't love? You know, take a picture from afar, I guess. I don't know. I love these actors on actors series, though. I do. I like one with the Paltrow, too. Well, yeah, shut out.

Apple. Apple loves you. Apple. And Chris Martin. Yeah. They made her. Together. The concept of Apple Martin, like, buying a digital, like, not even seeing your one

woman's show in Broadway, but buying, like, the digital package, you know, and, like, watching it, like, from a laptop. that's everything I'm just like I need to know she showed like her mama clip and was like

look mom I don't think she did I have a feeling the answer is no but maybe you never know oh my god well I'm excited

I'm sat for euphoria lots of projects coming 2026 I'm excited for early 2026 I know like spring is going to be

like kind of crazy yeah watch me on all the press tours um well Gronathotro's Marty Supreme

co-star Timothy Shalame I don't know how I feel about him these days What? This last week I feel like anything to me. It's all going to come down to whether this movie is good or not. I think the movie is going to be really, really good. Critics so far really like it.

Marty Supreme, what is this? It's about a guy who plays ping pong. Because he's hyping it so much. Like it better be good. Like you better be. Who's hyping it? Timmy. Yep.

Is it real story? I actually don't know I've ever not heard of it It's been real All I know is I do like that Oh no it's a movie character So fictional It's like challengers

I think it's about like a guy Who Who Okay It's inspired by a real person But it's not based on a real person If that makes sense Yeah

It's based on a The real life Or inspired by the real life Legendary American Table Tennis champion Marty Reisman, who was a charismatic hustler and an innovator in the sports. Okay. Do we know him? I don't know him.

No. I don't know much about ping pong. I do love when they make movies about random people. Gives me hope for one day that people just make a movie about me. Like literally just like, who is this person you just made a random movie about? But I like it. I like that idea. Well, he already got a little bit of heat last year at the SAG Awards when he won because

he talked about in his speech about being like very. open that like he does acting because he wants to be the best at it like he wants to win so we kind of have that like athlete approach to acting which like some people were kind of torn on and then for marty supreme he's also been very that um because he did it in an interview promoting marty supreme and he was like very assertive about like his performance he said this is probably my best performance you know and it's been seven or eight years that i feel like i've been handing in really, really committed top-of-the-line performances, and it's important to say it out loud because the discipline and the work ethic I'm bringing to these things, I don't want people

to take it for granted. This is really some top-level. Wow. Wow. Okay, hyping yourself. I love it. Yeah. That's what we need.

We need more of that. Jacob Lordy being like, I don't know what. Me too. I got to be like, no, we're giving top-level Emmy nomination. See, I don't know. At first last year, I was like, oh, it's cool. Like, he's very, like, he wants to be really, really good. He has the athlete approach.

but it's also like a little grind like he also said in this interview where it's like yeah I wore contacts to make my vision worse for a year so I could like play this character character authentically and I'm like okay that's a little crazy like I don't think you need to be affecting your eyesight for the rest of your life for this movie I think you could still do a good performance without all that

yeah but also the method like dedicate maybe he just like really wants to Oscar and you really have to like destroy yourself for Oscars sometimes I mean he's very transparent about where they want the Oscar and it can go either way I do think like the athlete because people are like either defending the athlete mentality or being against it I do think but I was thinking about it because like I kind of waffle but I'm like that for sports it's like very clear cut like it's two teams playing one game one team wins so like someone is inevitably the best because they win acting and like

is an art and movies are like an art so it's very subjective so it's hard to be like you are the number one best actor in the whole world no one can compete with timothy sholome because it is so subjective it's hard to say like who is the best you know right do you go like based on movie by movie like what if he's like like so good in this movie you know like some people are yeah who was it that one best they won an oscar and a razzie the same year was it like oh my god was it hally berry but what are a worst one maybe either hathbury like sander bullock or something like that like one of those it was something and I remember being like how can you win both the worst

and best actress Sandra Bullock yep for the blind side and all about Steve all about Steve was the worst one yeah so that's what yeah so I guess that is like yeah you really just have to go by based on the movie some people can like be amazing in one movie and then terrible on the other yeah or some actors just are like really really talented but like we'll sign on to a project and then the script changes or it's just a good paycheck so right like they're not a Cabra was number one, right? No, he has one. It took him like, he, it took him like 40 years into his career or something to win,

but he was, like, nominated for a long, long time before that he finally, like, got it. Do you know what he won for? You don't look it up if you don't know. It was, I think the Revenant. Yeah, the Revenant. He fought a bear. I never saw it, but I know he fought a bear. I have an animal, not the big gay man, but.

Let me a minute. I remember watching the Revenant on repeat for like 48. hour straight. What? Mm-hmm. With Aaron Carter. What? He watched it and he would like pretend to be a bear.

I don't know. I guess that's okay to say. It was cute. You liked it? No. Oh, okay. There was no talking in it. Oh, there's no talking in it?

He loved it. He was like acting out of the revident. Love it. Wow. Yeah. I never had any interest in seeing it. Well, one in Oscar. Yeah.

But. I liked him to this gentleman. Maybe he's also saying this. This kind of reminds me of when me and Moses started dating too. I think when people see him and Kylie and like matching me on orange outfits, maybe they don't take him as seriously, right? So he has to be like, look, I'm a serious actor. It was very much when, like, Moses and I started dating.

I feel like people you, like, worked for it didn't think you were, like, working as hard, being serious enough about your work because you were, like, I was posting you in, like, a pink rolls race. And they're like, wow, Moses is just, he's lost the plot with this girl. So maybe he has to remind people like, yes, I'm with Kylie Jenner and we're matching, but also I'm a very serious actor that, like, scratched my eyeballs out to this role, you know? That's my thought, right? Because you had to fight pretty hard and be like,

hey just because you see me acting in TikToks I mean I'm not taking my job seriously because it's easier when people don't see you then they don't know what you're doing else yeah they only know you for that so he's like oh he's the great actor that's it there's nothing else yeah it's probably why like

I mean I don't know if he's private like they don't a capriro people in general just keep their relations private because they want to be like because you do I think it's like better at whereas you do like see him as like oh this couple of Kylie Jenner and you kind of see them as like this like superficial entity. Especially Kardashians.

They're just known for, you know. Celebrity. Yeah. Like couples and drama. Yeah. So, I mean, I like that he's proud of her. I'm glad that they're like, you know, out and about. Was it you who said me that they're both going to get an Oscar this year?

I don't. Kylie's in a movie. I said, let's see how it turns out. I'd never say Kylie's going to win an Oscar. Oh, she's in a movie. She's in the Charlie XX. Right. Well, maybe she will.

Best guest in a movie. Like, I like that she's in her. acting era too she must be good you probably could have like lessons together if you're like acting i mean they were low key for a minute right now they're yeah they've been together so long like what three or two three years um so yeah it's like it's time yeah it really came out guns blazing with those outfits i know i love a matching moment but it was giving you righteous gemstones in the all pink suit it was giving like wow you really you really went for it yeah and i love it Yeah, I like that they're really committing to the orange

Orange is the new pink, said nobody ever No, but I honestly didn't know or care about Timothy Jell made too much before Kylie honestly so it helped me know him I saw what's the one I saw the chocolate one? Wonka That's pretty good Yeah, I like Wonka There's chocolate and there's chocolate

Yeah, he ate with that literally Literally I like him, that's all I see him in But I'll go see him in this because of Kylie Yeah, and I like the aesthetic of it I do have to say. I like the popcorn bucket is like a big orange pink pong ball and I think that's kind of fun.

That's weird. It's just a big ball? It's just a big ball. Yeah, people around him has been wearing them on their head. Like their head is like this orange pink ball ball. You know what? I would love for him to come on the podcast.

I feel like he would. He seems to be doing press. I didn't do like a Britney Broski one. That is this. So for Miami Supreme, he's not doing as much press. at least in America specifically, like, they're really amping up the elusiveness to him.

Yeah, I never even heard of it, so that's how elusive it is. There's like a, they're flying a blimp around L.A., and they're having influencers come on the blimp. Oh, that sounds dangerous. I am kind of afraid of a blimp, I think. I didn't know if you get it in. And it's kind of kids choice, whereas nachos, because it is just a big orange blimp.

Oh. I should say Nicolica on it. That is so weird. Get Jojo's see you up there. No, they didn't, they stopped. stopped like inviting her because she's when she came out actually right remember oh really because she was like always like the kid's choice was like get like she was the guest of honor and then after she came out as lesbian like that year they didn't invite her and then she admitted she was

like very outspoken about that well they're regressing then because they used to have rosio don't hosted every single year yeah what the hell's going on and she was openly lesbian right well isn't that cruise like a zootopia cruise isn't that like nicolode or is that Disney oh i guess Disney got her Oh, she switched. She jumped over. She's like, now we're doing Zootopia. I do like Zootopia. I watched a little bit of that.

That's pretty good. I would love to be a voice in that. Yeah. Randomly, Rachel Sennant did background vocals for the Shakira song in Zutopia, too. And that is like such a random fact that has really stayed with me after I read that. Because what is Rachel Sennett doing on the Zoooo song? I don't know. That's good.

Thanks. I kind of sound like Shakira. Yeah. That's here. Zoo-U-U-U. Gonna turn this floor into a zoo-u-oh. Is that where she's AI? What?

No. Moses, wasn't that the one you told me she was AI? No, I just said she looked like she's 20. That was not. It wasn't really her. It was animated, right? She's a gazelle. No.

But she's actually singing in the song. There's a music video to it. Oh, I haven't seen it. I've just seen the gazelle singing it in the movie. Okay. Can you look at it and tell me if it's AI? Because Moses said she looks like she's 20 But I'm like, no, that's AI or something

Or like a cartoon version of her Not that more like a CGI Like she looks very But I don't think it's supposed to be her for real I think it's supposed to be an animated version of her right? No, I think it's her And she just... Oh, I think it's her...

Yeah, I agree I think she's just very filtered That's crazy. No, that's like... I mean, she looks like a child That's so wild Because she looks great But like also she's in her 50s

Yeah, I think she's just very filtered Well, did you see the Kardashian The Kardashians, that scene of Chloe, where they just, like, A-I'd her in it? It's so weird. No. It's, like, a scene of, a clip from the Kardashians. Are you caught up on a show? Or have you seen, like, a couple episodes? We've seen a couple episodes.

The last one was the Paris one. Okay. Yeah, it was an episode you see. It's when Courtney goes on Chloe in Wonderland. Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw that one. So I guess I wasn't really paying attention that the clips are on TikTok. like it's when Chloe is FaceTiming Courtney

I mean Kim when Kim's in New York for the Metcala and Chloe's face like weirdly becomes very like AI and then some people like oh maybe it's just the filter but her she has like her cross necklace and the necklace warps too like so it's not just like a beauty filter that like comes off a little bit like

because even the like all this other stuff is like warping you think that'd be such an easy scene to film like You're just literally doing it on your phone. I know. So what did they say? Did she address it? No, they haven't. Hulu hasn't addressed it and Chloe hasn't addressed it either.

But it's so weird. What was the conversation? I kind of forgot. It was just like Courtney and Chloe were on the couch filming Chloe in Wonderland. And they were like, let's catch up with. Actually, the producer told Kim to FaceTime Courtney and Chloe because she was in New York getting fitted for the Met Gala. Yeah.

And then Chloe's like, why are you FaceTiming? Why are you calling Kim? She's like, well, a producer told me to come and say hi to you. So it had nothing to know, did it not? It was so random. It didn't like advance the plot in any way. I mean, is there a plot to really admit? I don't know.

The Paris one hadn't been captivated. I was like, ooh, wow. Kim is really putting in the work with the storyline. Oh, I was glued. I was like, what do you mean they were grandpas? Like, I was so, I didn't know any of it. I was very like, you know, glued to it for sure. Let me just like, yeah, let me play it for you.

So you can at least see it because it is crazy. When I saw it like her mouth changed, she looked like her. Her sister. I don't know why she filters her face. She's like literally the most prettiest. You see how it's like like her teeth also gets so weird. And then her necklace warps. Why did they do that?

I don't know. So I don't know if it's just I don't know. Because obviously they do put a beauty filter but like that looks like. Maybe just too heavy. Maybe it warped or something. Because how could you just AI? I have no idea. And what would be the point?

I don't know. Maybe she's just like it. Because she does, her Instagrams are like, notably, like, FaceTunes so much. Yeah, and she is so pretty. She's so pretty. I don't understand it because there was one, I mean, a while ago, she used to do it so bad where she'd be like literally her face was unrecognizable. And then you would see the show and you're like, oh, she's like so pretty.

So it's like why, I don't know why people do it. I know, maybe just some kind of dysphoria, I'm assuming. Yeah, but when she'd rather, to me, I love putting like ugly picks out there because wouldn't you rather exceed people's expectations in real life? People always are like, wow, you look so pretty in real life because I usually look. busted you know what I mean I'm the opposite I love looking the hottest as possible you are face-tuning the cat's eye pictures and then but I at least add a little texture and like I go back and I'm like this looks a little unrealistic like let me add some like skin texture and like you know

but you look face tuned in real life but like I'm not super photo like I'm only photogenic from very specific angles and I don't know how to take a photo so and also like uh purported Unfortunately, like the outfits I'm wearing can look weird depending on who's taking it. Jimmy and Daryan and Dallas were taking a photo of me at the Trishmas show. I never saw these and I want to see that. I have a behind the scenes. They're a little diabolical. I'm not gonna-

Wait, why? You look so good. Like the angles were crazy. I was looking at too many places. It was crazy. So like in a situation like that. I thought you look great. I have like three second behind the scenes of everyone.

Like someone's lighting you. Two people are filming you. I was doing like a music video or something and I was like so, everyone had those photos. You have to post the photos because I was like so gag by it. I was like, what is happening here? I'll pose them, but it'll be me from a completely, it'll be like me in Hawaii or something where I look really good. And then like, because in FaceTune, you can also like, like take your, it lets you take your

face from one photo and put it in another photo. Oh. And it's such a serve. So I would do that, to be honest. And I, I'm like very tan where it's like, I don't care. Like, I'm for the fantasy. It's my Instagram. I want to have that fantasy.

It's so wild. I just, I love to just look. I mean, look, if someone takes my photo and they face to know, okay, yes. I don't mind that, but I will never face-to-photo because I'm also just lazy. I never have, I don't think I've ever faced tune. I don't think I know how to face tune. No, you don't.

That one, the Donnie Osmond one, you had me. Yeah, you have outsource. Yeah, I'll send. Yeah, okay, Johnny Osmond. I think my Gerard way, when I looked at, I was like, okay, give me a little smooth somewhere. For sure, but. In general.

In general, I'm like, what's the point? Yeah. Amazing. I'm beautiful as is, so. Those meat and greet, the cats I mean and greet is so funny because, like, I was trying to figure out earlier what it reminded me of and my TikTok has been

we can censor the name or we don't have to censor it Colleen's meet and greets Have you ever seen her? In the past or present? I would assume the past but she's like she's on stage

and the people are in front of her So that's why when you were saying Cat's Eye so she'll be on stage like this and they're below Yeah one by one they go just like stand by the stage and she's like on like up here on stage

Oh weird I wonder why they do that It kind of reminds me of like I guess maybe like the book signing where like they're buying the desk it kind of gives that I guess Yeah, but she's like not signing a book. She's just taking a picture.

Like she literally could just, then there's steps right by them. She could just walk down. And there was multiple shows. So there was one where she had like a mass noise that someone said she was sick. But like, no, it was like every show. Weird. Maybe some people don't want to touch other people. Maybe they have like a phobia.

I don't know. I get it. I get it. Not me. For, I mean, Manal was like so scared of getting sick that she wouldn't even go see like wicked. Like she wouldn't go to movie theater because she was that scared of getting sick. I pop those icons. And they do meet so many people.

So maybe that's what. I guess it's case by case. Knock on what I've actually never gotten sick from a meet and greet, but I do pop a Zia cam every two hours. Who was it? Oh, Ben Verde. He had, who did the meet and greet? God, he had me recreating.

Maybe it was Cardi B. I know Jimmy I recreated Cardi B with, there was one where I was like doing a wheelbarrow with Ben. I love when people are like, can we do this photo? I love it. Me and Jimmy's was the best. I loved it. So good.

Yeah, there was like one take, like nailed it. Actually, that's the one everyone should do that is the only want to touch people because you're literally just like this and then you're far away and you don't have to be like a weirdo about it. You sent me meet and greet photos of Jason Mamoa. Yeah. I never seen,

is this new? Because I'd never seen him do that before. I don't, it was so randomly, complex, randomly covered Jason and Moa's meeting greets where like, it's like the husbands like standing awkwardly on the side

as like their partners are like, yeah. And he's like kicking them and stuff. And I was like, where did this come from? I don't know where this trend originated, but it did give me, I guess your mom was.

was the one that did the Jason Mamo photos with you, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What was this there? Moses to do Jason Molo. I would take a picture with him. Oh, you would want one? Moses and Jason Mowice.

I love his last show Maui was the good show. You would do a mean, great? How would you pose? I'm so curious. I'm assuming he's like fighting me and trying to get you. Oh, you want to do a fighting pose. I love that he's down. You know what?

I will say about Jason Mamo and Dony Asman is they are down to do a pose. If you tell them, like, can you hold me this way? Like, both of them will do it. Which is, like, they're very good with sweet, greets. And like you said, not everyone has to be like that. But when you do meet people who are just down, that's why I am down for pretty much any pose.

I mean, anything they want me to do, I will. Unless I don't know what the sign is. Sometimes it's like a, like, a fraternity or something. I'm like, oh, I don't know. They're always doing, like, some weird finger thing. Yeah. This one I'll do because that's like a little heart. But, yeah.

Yeah. And some of them, I'm like, I don't know. Or looking off the camera. I always think that's a little weird too I'm like no but most of the time I will I'll hold your feet if I can I don't know

I'll do pretty much anything but I do like that I like that you want to do a meet and greet with him the next Comic-Con yeah you guys should go I would love it. Wait a minute we'll bring Aquaman Aquaman too

oh yeah Aquaman needs to meet his namesake I should he's a nice guy some celebrities don't seem so nice who was telling me there was a rude celebrity

the other day I can't think about Most of them seem nice Katzai as nice We love them Yeah the ultimate sweeties I don't know they were so young I know

Oh my god 18 You and Che is 18 I think Manal's 23 And she's the oldest Crazy Yeah and they call her grandma I'm like oh

That's crazy But I get it That's so wild Wow I love this voice on you I really like this I know I kind of like it too It's cool

I was I want to do it next maybe Wednesday we have more time I need to do a TikTok with you of like you reacting to my vocals at Katzai because I really thought I was eating

it's one of those where it's like oh that's how I sound do you have one now I want to react to her right now I'll be singing I didn't hear I want to hear you were you recording yourself no I was recording them

but my voice and this is why I lost were you seeing the whole time especially night one night two I was already raspy So I was like But gnarly came on And I have to do it for gnarly

It's the zucchini song Is where I really lost my mind Eat zucchini We got to do that one Did you make stuff peppers Or stuff cookies You make some zucchini And you can do a TikTok sound to it

Eat zucchini What is that voice? Eat zucchini! What is that voice? I think they're much just getting louder And so I blend better. No, you took it down a little bit. At the beginning, I would have called security

if I heard that. I'm like, that person is not okay. But then you mesh with them. You started blending with them. I was like, because that's not even your voice. I've heard you sing eat zucchini. I've heard you do it so many times. I was like, what?

Also, I didn't know. Like, it was a surprise. I didn't know that. Like, I knew the song was in there, but I didn't know when. So all of a sudden it goes black. And then Monon goes, haven't you heard?

And the internet girl. And then it goes black. black again. And I, that's when I was like, it's okay. Like, I lost it. You were like, it was like, yep, yep. So. I think you sounded good once you got into the rhythm. Yes. I kind of love that, though. Did you post it? On my Instagram story. But I want to do one of those TikToks where it's like, POV, you hear yourself in a concert video. Because there I was waiting with the 11 year olds after the show and the stands for like the main greet. And I'm like, and the girl's like, you know, you have time to work on your social media post. And I was like,

okay, work. Who said that? The girl was corraling us. I love that. Oh, my God, I'm going to tell Robert that from our meeting group. They can tell them they can work on social meetings. So I'm like, work. So I'm going through my footage and I was like, oh, let me do internet girl. And then I press like unmute. And I was like, who is that? That's, you sound good, though.

You sound good. And you know what? You sound like you're having a good time. As you should. What is the rule of thumb with concerts? You should sing to the songs, right? You should sing along. Yeah.

For me, I guess like, Arestore for me is like a good example. Like the bangers. Sing a lot. Yes. And then like when it's a slower. song I like will be quiet I'll be like I can't even sing all too well right now but I would be like quieter to myself more because like Broadway shows if you sing you're like out like don't what do you mean I paid all this money to hear this person sing not you but concerts

like Totti Westbrook once said time and place because also the girls are like we want to hear you sing it and then so I was like you ask you shall see okay I say that sometimes sing along I like when people sing along because then it's like okay you like are feeling it yeah Remember that one artist who like shush people singing? They started singing. Yeah. She's like, shh. I was like, what are you?

I was like, what are you? I was like, no, not you. I was like, that's so weird. Don't you want people? Love Lord. That was a little crazy. Like, why would she do that? But yeah, it was little wild.

What's she doing these days? She just did another tour. She would, yeah. Where at? She did all across North America. She was in L.A. Two months ago, I think. She released an album over the summer called Virgin.

Is she playing like arenas? Are you playing like arenas? arenas yeah wow yeah all these people playing arena I think Megan Trainers doing an arena tour like yeah first of all many people how you have all these fans but how like are people just going to like they are you know what I found about Gen Z is they go to a show like people will go to like three concerts a week

yeah Ashton I'm looking at you Ashton who I love goes to so many of my shows but then he'll also be like front row at every other show like he'll be like at Lady Gaga Addison where I'm like how are these kids just going to every show I think I usually go to concerts a lot of the time when I was younger too but yeah now it's like I really have to pick and choose. Like Adela was in L.A.

in October and I really, really wanted to see her. And I got invited. But it was like an hour before. Like, oh, you want to come? And I'm far from like L.A. So I was like, there's, and I'm like, I've been mentally prepared for like months. I can't be like the last minute. I'm very much the same. That was me with MCR. I was like, do you want to come tonight?

I was like, I had to like prepare and get a sitter and like everything. Yeah, like I have to prepare. Yeah. I think it's just, we're just old. Even a year in advance isn't enough. MCR is here next October. I'm like, can I'm like, can I. I make it? Can I go? How old will the kids be? What's my cycle look like? Well, I have the stamina. Can I be up late? What's my weight going to be? What's the moon? That's the big one.

We can't go on Mercury retrograde. That's for sure. Like, there is a lot to take into consideration, especially like a Hollywood Bowl. That's so big. I'm like, how do we get in and out? Yeah. Ben Platt said the Amundsen, we got invited. We should go to there. But that also seems hard to get it out of. It's fine. I mean, if we're together, it's fine. Oh, my security. You are like my security. We moved to Amundsen, didn't we? It sounds familiar. Gosh, what show did we see?

Oh, oh, remember I got COVID after. I think everyone gave me COVID there. It was, oh, the Hades Town. That was like our date. I think before we had kids. Oh, I was pregnant with Malbu, I think. It was like 2021, 2022. Probably that's why you were sick.

You always sick at the beginning. No, I think I got it from people there. Remember everyone was hugging me? Right, but usually you don't get it. Usually you're immune. Right. And it's just, was they weaker? Yes, I think that's probably the case.

Yeah, because I meet people now and, like, again, knock on what I haven't gotten sick. Well, you were ready for the season. That's the thing. Everyone, the tours, they get sick, but they get sick once and then they're immune for that season. I was weirdly sick that, like, week right after I got back from Broadway, right before tour. I lost my voice, too. Like, Thanksgiving had no voice. I don't even know how it happened, but I made it through.

I don't know if you could do a singing tour because you lost your voice after two nights. Yeah, but. That was the level I was going at for the full, 60, actually, no, like 75 minute set. That was your third Katzai performance because your first was at the Trishmas Live. Oh, yeah, T. I am really the Katzai Street team at this point. Like, and also the cross, the cross promotion, like the synergy of my clients. I do love that.

Both shows I'm promoting. And also so many just Trish viewers at Katzai. Oh, I was going to ask that. A big cross, yeah, big cross coverings. Did people come up to you? Yeah, it was so nice. Did they come up to you in the mean, greet line? Kind of throughout, because it was easier to talk to people in, like, when the second night, because it's all standing, versus, like, night one, I was, like, just in my seat and it was just me and Robin Thick hanging out, so.

Do you talk to him? No. At first I was, like, Robin Thick. But his son was, like, very sweet and having, like, the best time and, like, was doing all the dances and, like, waving. It was so cute. I'm like, I love seeing, like, just like the kids be so excited and, like, having the, as I remember, like, being a teenager and going to my concert, especially a pop girl concert and, like, the pure joy of divas.

Oh, I would cry. When I was, like, 13, I remember, like, seeing Donnie Asman at the New York, New York, and I just, like, would sob. I always seen, like, Donny Asman and, like, Tom Jones, and I remember being, like, crying in my eyes out. I was like, I can't believe it. It's so cool. There is a magic to concerts when you're younger.

And I do, like, seeing celebrities just be, like, parents with their kids. I mean, it's kind of... It's cute. I don't like love a Robin Thick, but I love that he did that. You know what I mean? But so, Robin Thin'am was like so, he just looked so sweet and was so happy. Yeah. Gave me like young Oscar T's and I was like...

Oh, really? Oh, I love that. It was really cute. I love when I see girls that are like me at my shows too, too, like young me's and I'm just like, oh, they'll be like 15 and they'll be wearing like a Michael Uncle Romance hoodie, like a scene wig. And I'm like, oh my God, it's... We had a 13-year-old dress up as Uncle Baby Billy from Richest Jemstone.

Did you see this? It was so cute So I saw a sign that was like Can you and Moses come to our wedding in Brooklyn And they were this cute little lesbian couple They had our eras of Trish shirt on And they had a little rainbow underneath wedding And I was like oh my god love it

And then their daughter was next to them And she was 13 And I was like oh god what do you dress that? She had gold so I didn't know if it was like Holiday Barbie If it was Elvis was like a gold suit And she was Uncle Baby Billy And she like I know everywhere to misbehave in And I was like oh my gosh

So then I said you want to come up here So I had her you know usually they come front of the stage But she hopped up on the stage She like jumped up on the stage on board And my tour manager was like this huge Australian guy I was just like I was like it's fine Because it was just cute little girl And she knew every word

We did an a cappella But it was very it was giving very trish vibes Because like what 13 year old is like Cost playing righteous gemstone is like I would have done that at 13 I was cosplaying like I said like Donnie Hasman Donnie and Marie or something So it was it was cute

Did you see it? Did you see the clip? Not yet. It was doing it at three years old That's true I know I was Yeah she could come on and sing with me on stage It was cute that people liked that so much. I really enjoyed it. Have you watched the new fallout? Speaking of Walton Goggins? It's not out until next week. Oh, I've been thinking to press everywhere for it. The press turn of it comes out next week. Yeah. I'm really sad. He's like, okay, off to L.A. next.

I was like, come on the podcast. I reached out to Trisha again. Although I think I told her we're done for the year. But I think he's probably done with that. I want to watch it. I think I would like it. It's a video game, he said? Yeah, it's based on a video game. I've never played it or know that much about it, but I still enjoyed the show. I like the way he looks in it. Yeah. He's such a good actor. He should come back to White Lotus. Yeah, why not? All the dead ones should.

Oh, I forgot he died. Oh, spoiler we are. He should, Jennifer Coolid and Murray Bartlett. Those are my like three faves from each season, too. I guess they always kill off the faves. You know what show is back that I did not know? Is Camor Lee Simmons, the Life and the Fabbling? Oh, I did see a clip of this.

What was this? Yes, I love her. I've always loved her. Oh, no. No, I mean, it's been a little. problematic, I feel. Oh, really? Wait, I saw a clip, but I thought it was cute.

Maybe not. Which one was going back? I don't know. I can't remember now. I remember seeing something like, oh, she's here. She's back. So it was with her two daughters. Were they sitting at a booth?

Okay. So I also saw that clip. It was, was it one of the daughters and her son? Maybe. Okay. And what was that clip? That one was like her daughter, I think it was Ayoki. Like, she was gone for six months, like, traveling and working and she came back

and her family was mad at her that she was gone for so long. Oh, okay. Maybe that, yeah. And they were kind of giving her our time. But there was another one that was a little triggering. I mean, I got things out of course, though. I just lost it. Camor is older than me, right?

Yeah. Yeah. She's, like, quite a bit. Like, in her 50s, maybe? Let me see how old. She looks great. I just was like, she's been around for a long time, so. She is exactly 50.

Okay. She looks amazing. Yeah, she does look great. I love her. She was married to Russellson? Yes. Not anymore, though. No.

And I guess there's a whole bunch of drama. layer but um which i not on the show not on the show i guess because i just saw today he like commented on an instagram post of like a people magazine interview um where she talked about like how she doesn't have a relationship with him anymore and he was like but there's two sides to every story um you said if i you like took my stocks and you said if i sued you then you wouldn't let the girls ever see me again or something like that yeah he claimed that so what's stocks I have no idea. He's like, you stole my stocks after the divorce and things something.

How do you steal them? Girl, I couldn't even explain the stock market to you. Yeah, do you know how to buy a stock? I don't know anything about stock. And honestly, like, I talked to, there was like, when I was, like, dating, I had a date with, like, one finance guy, like, finance. Okay. I mean, he was just very into finance.

I thought. I think maybe unemployed at the time, but, like, into finance. And it was, like, talking about, like, investments on this. I'm like, I don't care. Like, I know. that. I know. I just, I don't care. As soon as anyone brings the investments to me, I'm like, no, just give me some money. No, no, no.

I'm not going to get that. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, buy a house. No, no, no, no. You need to get the stocks. You need to get your money. And you need to get your money here. I'm like, no. No. No. But there was a scene from the Camorra. It's called Camorah back in the Fablane. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Yeah. And it was a scene featuring her daughters. And one of her daughters,

Aoki is, she's 23 and she got offended when her sister Ming, um, who's older 25, said that she looks healthy. Oh. Yeah. Her, um, because Ming told Aoki, you look good. You look healthy. And Aoki says, F you, you look healthy. Oh.

And Ming is like, you look good. But she says it kind of like, like she goes like up and down and smirks. Healthy's like the trigger, right? Yes. You want to look if you have a disorder, they want to look sick. Yes. Yeah. And that's exactly what Ayoki says.

She said, healthy means fat in this house. And you're kind of an a-hole for that. Oh, no. And Ming says, that's not what I meant. You look healthy. You look very healthy. That she keeps saying it. Yes.

And they keep going on and on. And Aoki just insists that, like, you meant healthy in a weird way. And Kamora says, oh, no, Aoki says, she meant girthy. She meant she could last the winner. And then her mom, Kamara, says, okay, well, you are not. You cannot last a winter, which is also like a weird thing to say. Well, I guess she was trying to say, yes. Like, okay, yeah, and our family, too, like, skinny was like the ultimate compliment.

So if you were like, wow, you couldn't even last a winter, I'd be like, thank you. You know, like, back in the day. But the gag is, Aoki has been open about having an ED. Oh, no. Yes. And, like, she's also, like, documents of this on Instagram, like, over the past year because she's a model. And she was told during Paris Fashion Week that she wasn't skinny enough. So like, oh, I hate it.

It's also, yeah. Like just triggering your film family. Oh, I didn't know. For like the sake of the show, too. So, like, that contextually adds, like, so much. Yeah. So every, every clip I've seen has been people being like, I think they're trying to have like a Kardashian-esque sibling dynamic where, you know,

they, like, are. Mean? Yeah. Just mean. They love each other, but they're mean. And they're supposed to be, like, relatable. But I think. there's like layers to it where it almost there's like a little tinge of like oh that's not you know

I think that's a lot of tinge because I feel like I haven't watched the Kardashians for a long like maybe back in the day when they were like hitting each other with their purses and stuff maybe they were more mean but I feel like the body shaming of it all is like or just trickering and that kind of stuff is this like not it anymore you know like certain things just like die at a certain point right like and you know like just need to not ever talk about that stuff and I feel like bodies is where we're at we're just like don't, me too, I got to like watch it when you like try and compliment. Even when you, I'm like, wow, you look skinny. Like, I just need to stop because

like that's so crazy to say like, I don't know, because it obviously trigger people if you say you look skinny. It's like, what did I look fat before or this? It's like there's so much more to it. But if it's your own kid for the sake of television, yeah, that's kind of. Also, it's just like, I don't know, just my, our biggest rule is not even just like mention, as soon as someone says skinny,

anything, oh, look at the, nothing, nothing. Don't say tummy, don't say skinny, don't say it. Like, just don't mention body. I should just be a, like, a vessel that doesn't even have, like, anything to do with anything, you know? Yeah, I think especially, like, knowing someone out of Edie and struggle, like, struggle with that. And saying healthy is crazy. And you know, and you know, everyone knows, even if you never struggled with it, everyone knows that that's what that means to people that struggle with it. Even people who don't struggle with it, they would take it as some to type a way.

And then she says it, and then you still say it again. Yeah. Well, buddy, you look healthy, you look at me. Like, stop saying that. Oh, my God. That would, like, freak. I would lose my shit. I think they were trying to be Kardashian.

Yeah. Yeah. After that, they sat with the mom, right? Yes, in the interview. Yep. And the mom was, and the way the mom was talking, I was like, okay, they are all in on it. That's when, like, the, you could last the winner. Like, that was during the confession.

Yeah. Like, no, you wouldn't even last. Yeah. Like, so the mom was playing into it a lot. Oh. Oh, no. I know. It makes me sad.

Because I also, like, I mean. they're so like Ming and Ioki I remember when they were teeny tiny like I remember the cribs episode when they were so little yeah and they're so gorgeous now and like you don't need all I feel like it's almost trying too hard and I feel like you don't need that like no they're so cute and funny on their own so like on Instagram they're so sweet so no we need a I know because who else was like that was it was it Gigi Hadid her mom that was like cut her that little slice of cake yes and it's so crazy or calling her athletic being like well you you're gonna get too muscular if you do volleyball or something like that.

Like, we need to bring back, like, just supportive moms. Chris does a pretty good job of it. You know who did such a good job? This is so dating myself. And I don't know if you remember the shirt. Do you remember pretty wild? Yes. With Alexis, gosh, she was the one that got the bling ring.

The bling ring. Yes. That mom was so supportive. I mean, maybe looking back, maybe probably. But I remember she was so supportive of the girls. Like, when the girl was going to court and then that, like, remember the, like, reporter? Yes. It was like, she was not wearing lupitons.

Two inch kitten nails. Yeah. Two inch kidney heels from BB. Yes. Every time you interrupt, I have to re-record it. We have moments. She's like, hi, this is Alexis. How dare you? Mom, stop it. My mom and I already did that scene because it was just so, it's so iconic.

It was so good. And I wish we had more mother relationships like that. Oh, my God. If I ever do it, maybe we should do a reality show. People always ask us do reality shows. I'm like, I don't know. It's all drama, but I would like to see just nice and encouraging mom, you know. Like that's the ultimate role play ASMR is to be like.

sweet. Yeah. To be like, you look. Healthy family dynamics. Yes. Yes. That's what we want.

I think that's what we want to hear. It's just like, oh, like, would you like? Because even, I was thinking about this too. Because I was doing the meet and greets this weekend. A lot of people are like, oh, you know, I'm like, going to be all alone for Christmas or this and that. I'm like, sometimes it's better. Like, I remember being like when I was like really little and seeing like extended family and stuff and going to Christmases.

Maybe when we talked about this, I can't remember. But like, you know, they would like, you would get turkey and they would literally give you two size of turkey. like, just like a dollop of mashed potatoes and like, like, that's it. And then I'd go back for like seconds and they'd be like, oh, someone's hungry and something like that. And I'm just like, what do you mean? You gave me a dollop of mashed potatoes.

So I remember I used to put like a mountain of mashed potatoes and people were, and they always comment on that like, oh, that's a lot of mashed potatoes. Did you eat that much mashed potatoes? And it's just like, fuck you aunt, Sally. Like, what do you mean? I'm hungry. I'm a growing kid. Like, it's the most insane thing.

And then seeing it happen with like the Hadid's or now with like this. It's like, that's so sad. And Camorah, like, I know she was a model, but she was like, she's a little curvy, right? I mean, baby fats. Like, wow. Right, right. Yeah. So, what?

I guess you can't even call anyone curvy anymore because people take that as an insult, too. I don't know. But it's crazy when people. How old are they there? 23 and 25. Oh, yeah. Young. And they're models.

Yeah. What's good people are calling them out? Where does it air? I didn't even see. E? E. What? E's still around?

I thought it. E News collapsed, but E the Network. You were interviewed on E, the Network at Wicked. Really? Yeah, you're interviewed. Access Hollywood, I thought. No. No, when you interviewed on the platform.

Oh. Or it was like, what would you do if you had the Wizard's Wish? Period. That aired on E. That was E? All right. Kudos E for still being on. That guy was nice.

I didn't know. E is crazy. What other shows do they have? They have that Kristen Kavala. Oh, my God. E. That's where we're going to live. We're going to go on.

let us know every time they're like you want to do a rash I'm like where would he be it sounds like E that sounds like the place they're like who are these people pretty wild was on E he pretty he used to be the the spot for sure yeah yeah and Nicole now it's Hulu it's like the secret lives Kardashians probably something else yeah since the best of Stallone's daughter have a show I feel like he had three daughters and they all had a show I'm like I don't know kind of know well you know Be kind. Yeah.

Just that don't comment on people's speech. There was one show that had a little bit of body positivity, which was, it's so weird that like, I know. It's like also, I feel like gay roles are in mainstream media harder. Body positivity, mainstream media are. So much harder. It's so real. But in the Taylor Swift docu series that just premiered on Disney Plus, like one of the episodes

was mostly about the dancers and one of her dancers, Cam, who's like, who's, bigger and it was not it spotlighted him a lot and he was like I was told like he loves to dance he was dancing his whole life he was told that he'll never be a backup dancer because he's too big and that he should just teach dance classes and um he talked about like getting even in casting calls like he wouldn't even be able to get in the in the room to audition because he's too big and he's like no matter like and that's just how his size like he's just bigger and um Taylor at least was like I wanted like specifically i said in the casting like i want it to i don't care about like the look i don't care if they draw more attention or whatever like i want it to be just like people who

anyone can look at and be like oh i can see myself yeah and i was like i got like emotional hearing him talk about it as like a like a bigger gay man like who they never thought he would get the opportunity and i was like so sweet it was nice to see a little uh body positivity and in mainstream media for ones. No, it's so true. I feel like on all my music videos, that's like the one thing is like, yeah, just nothing specific, but just that everyone can be like represented. Like my career for Cedric teaches a class with a bunch of dancers that are in wheelchairs and like, like, they're so good. Oh my gosh, they're so good. So in close every door, we had one of his students in there and I just make, and you just want to make sure everyone just feels seen. It's very like wicked and

stuff like that too. It's like, you know, you just feel like, oh, that could be me. And like, same thing with me with being bigger. I remember seeing Sunset Boulevard on Broadway and they I love when it's just like a character that's just bigger and it's not about being bigger. They had this amazing girl named Melissa Victor played Audrey and Little Sheple Horrors on off Broadway and I was just like, oh, it's so nice because that role's always like a skinny girl. And it's just like, yeah, it's just nice to see. And especially like a backup dance or something. It's like it's not about them being big.

It's not like they're making fun of them or anything. It's like they're just existing. And they're doing the same choreography as everyone else. And they eat it. Yes, they're performing at the same level. That also was like, like I think if I saw that when I was young, younger and like I just never thought I would like be able to do anything like physically because I was just big I would be like that would have changed my whole like

you would have been a backup dancer yeah you would have been on there is yeah I'd be with it's never too late it's never it's never no it's so true though and I like do love that that's happening because that was the same with me too I never got auditions ever like it was just like never a thing so I love now that like they're doing this Domino's pizza yeah finally bus size representation we love it because we eat pizza too in fact We're probably the majority of the people who eat pizza. And I love to see it. It is a good movement.

We love this movement. I mean, it's a dwindling movement. It's a dwindling movement. I know. I know. It is crazy. Yeah. Just, you know.

Gosh, everyone, I know everyone's being talked. Everyone now is like getting the she's too skinny. Like everyone's getting that, which is like so crazy because I was like, well. Pangulum is crazy. It's crazy. Everyone's like, oh, she looks sick. She's too. But I guess like people do like hearing that.

but they look sick. Yeah, it's almost like staying bigger now. It's like you're like the cat and a severdine. It's like the rebellious. Yeah, you're so bad. I'm sick. I'm still bad, everybody. You know right here.

That is me. And it's okay. It's okay. Oh my gosh. It's just, it's just wild to see everyone just getting so skinny. It really is. I guess it's good.

My favorite guy from Mike and Molly just did an interview, Billy Gardell and he was like, I had to take it because he said he was like 400. Actually, Jelly Rule, too. I think, I don't know if you talked about JLB1s, but Jelly Roller also. like 200 pounds he lost so much weight too and he was saying that he was like physically just

like uncomfortable that he TMI I guess kind of get aroused I was like okay that's crazy but yeah he lost a lot of much way I don't know if he did gLP ones he showed a lot of his workouts too though like I guess you do it in in tandem yeah sometimes I don't know of him but I think Billy Gardell did say he used gLP ones and he said he needed it during COVID because he got like really really sick and he had to like lose the weight yeah he's like he lost a lot of weight it's just wild it's crazy yeah it can just be a little like I think when like we said before I think as when it gets too extreme, you know, I think it's nuts, but yeah. Do it for your health.

Lose weight responsibly. Yeah. And it is so hard to navigate now because like, I mean, Kelly Osborne, like everyone has been talking about her a lot. She's like, I'm grieving my dead dad. And I was like, you know what? Tea. Yeah, for sure. But she does, yeah.

You don't know. You don't know what anyone's going through. Yeah. Yeah. It's just drastic. I think it's just like shocking. It's like not common. Like, have I lost 100 pounds?

I think I would, you know, people would ask about it. I'd be like, wow, what happened? I don't know what I would look like. I don't honestly, like, people have been saying this is quite a lot. Like, some people are like probably like are just meant to be like a larger body, a larger. I think that's me because I have a big head and like I think I meant to have like a larger face, a larger body. When I see myself suit, like when I was really, when I lost a bunch of weight and I look back, I'm like, it is a little shocking. And that was just revenge.

Yeah, you weren't doing GLP ones back then. I wasn't around. Crazy. Yeah. Maybe it was. Yeah, I'm for like diabetics, but like not for weight loss purposes. Right. Everybody's doing it, I guess.

Yeah. Yeah, I would just need to not comment on anyone's bodies. You can think it. Share it with your spouse. I don't think we need to like say it out loud. But you know what's so funny? As much as we gossip and we love to gossip, we never are like, oh, that person got fat. Like that person got, like I've never once in a woman was like, oh, my God, she's so skinny.

I don't know. I guess I think about, maybe you think about it when you see it. I never really think to, like, relay this information after a weekend to be like, wow, did you see Cali Osborne being so skinny? I don't know. I guess I see it when I see it. I'm like, oh, yeah, she's tiny. Yeah.

Yeah. I guess Calli Osborne, too, like, I know her growing up as, like, she was, it's so funny because in my head, I thought she was so fat. Like, not fat, but she was, like, the fat girl. And, like, you watch, like, the shut up video, or even Papa don't preach at the VMAs. She's kind of, like, not fat at all. Like, she's just, like, curvy. She's, like, 15 or 16, and she just got some, like, curves to her.

We had a very skewed sense of weight. I mean, that's why I get the conversations around it because like we grew up in a time where it's like everyone was so thin that and that like anyone who had a little bit of like weight to him was like fat and ugly and obese whatever. Yeah. So like it messed us up mentally. So the thought of going back to like that era of like body image is like scary. So I get the sensitivity.

why people get so up in arms. That's, like, the main reason, like, I talk about it, too, because it's just, like, it's just, maybe you shouldn't comment on people's bodies, but also, I guess, yeah, like, what's healthy, you know what I mean? Like, it's just not, like, to. And it's real, it's not, so, like, it is hard. Because JLP ones, essentially, as I heard, is, like, people, like, just suppress your appetite, and you just don't eat, so some people do pass out and get sick because they're just

not eating, like, have to force myself to eat, which is also kind of scary. Like, you shouldn't, like, be in that category. So, yes, I think that is actually very valid, because, yeah, we grow, up with like Bridget Jones considered fat. I watched that movie now. I'm like she's so she's like size eight. I was like that's crazy so. Or even like Anna Nicole I think about a lot to you. Bridget from

Girls Nextdoor. Oh my God. They went to Arby's and the mom's like oh I thought you were on a diet. I was like she's literally what do you mean she's like in a two piece? Yeah Jessica Simpson I'll never get over that like 2009 mom jeans. That's why Eminem cast me to like we need an extra large obese person to play Jessica Simpson and it's me at 175 like

just like what it's 21 years old just like crazy and I was casted as the fat disgusting obese Jessica Simpson at 20 years old and 175 pounds and I look just so lit in that video I'm like wow I'm so tiny I know is that crazy like maybe now okay but like then I was so little I was like oh my god that was even like watching when we react this like your old music videos like even when you were doing like fat chicks like you were not yeah I know I know but like in my head I was and we we talk about all the time even as a kid I'm just like no my head that I was like huge because because of that's what people think now people are going to be like why I'm so fat because I'm not this so they

just are taking these gel people once to get even skinnier and everyone's just like trying to be as skinny as possible and like just if you're someone who's not doing that and not being a skinny possible it's okay I know it sucks yeah they should play that sound when people lose too much weight yeah we lost one just keep a tally of everyone we've on the fallen tree Because it really is Everyone is just It's just skinny now It's okay

We're still here I'm still here In the moment But Oh my God Do we have a final Or is that it We can wrap it up

That's okay I love it Moses any final It's bedtime It is late for us It's so late That's what I was saying When before he came here I was like it feels like it should be like

A late night talk show It feels like a sleepover It does It's because it was like dark Oh my gosh And I was like, I had, I had, I had literally 20 minutes because I was like, oh my God, it's like bedtime. What'd you have for dinner?

You're like, when dinner went late, I was like, what did you have? Just, my, it's my dad's birthday, so we had Peruvian food. Oh, oh, I didn't know that. Oh, my God. You could have, you could have literally told me to F off because I was like, I kept changing it because my flight was so delayed. It was so, oh, my, I didn't even like stop to eat anything. I literally came straight home and I was just like, oh, my gosh, it kept being late,

but we could have, probably could have handled it. Maybe not. We had no hot topics. I was, like, stuck on the tarmac for three hours and I was like, maybe look at Hot Topics. I was like, oh, Oscar will be there. And then I got later. Oh, I didn't know.

Okay, well, I'm so sorry. I know Moses was like, he had bologna sauce slept over from last night. Did you want to get home? I would love that. But I have literally 45 minutes to say hi to my kids, shower, wash my hair, glam, and like do the arteries before you get here. And did it.

Yeah, and did it. But I am excited to get some spaghetti. Who are you texting? Are you texting? Boil some water? Are you? No? Yeah.

Were you texting? Some water from best. Are you kidding? No. Love that. Ooh, I love that. I love that. I love when it's like, get that water boiling.

That's why I married you. Yes. Oh my gosh. From GLP. Literally, it's so funny too. People are like, you would love GLP ones. Like people who ask me that sometimes and things and I know they're being like nice because they've lost so much weight.

But I'm also kind of like that's a little triggering. I'm like, I think it's like people that smoke. They want more people to be doing the same, you know. Oh, that's such a weird analogy. Okay. It's not because I mean. So many people are like, oh my God.

Like you would love a, you would love Monjaro. and I was like, okay. I don't think I've ever gone up to anyone have been like, yeah, like a plug, like, yeah, you should have some of them. I'm like, I guess if you want. At least four or five people and they like lost a bunch of weight. They were excited to show me and I was like super excited for them. And I'm like, no, I think you would like it.

Like you won't get sick. Like it's meant for people like us. I know. People like us. That's kind of crazy. I, like, I only talk about it if someone like asked me about my experience and I'd be like, yeah, like I haven't had crazy results. But like, yeah.

No, you have had crazy. results but not i mean now i'm scared to see i know i know i was going to say you have healthy results but maybe that's about the right you are you look good you look good is oh my god i'm literally being so you think i could last the winter you could last a couple winters i could last a whole at poplips you know maybe feast not me forever i could last so long but you want to add, babe, to anything we talked about? No, we're talking about losing, not adding. Okay.

Well, you guys, it's the holidays. Enjoy. Enjoy your life. Life is too short to be on GLP ones. Although it could be shorter if you're not on GLP1. So whatever works for you, talk to your doctor, not us. You guys will see you in the next one. Oscar's dream guest is coming this week to join us on a hot topic.

We're like little hot topics with him. It's like less than. Yeah. Well, this is dream guest. We'll be here next week. Me. Yes. I'm the dream guest.

And we'll see you guys real soon. Bye! Bye.