Just Trish - Just Trish Ep 237

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I know. It paint me more than it paint anyone else in this room. It doesn't feel real. It is real. It feels like performance here. I don't know. It just, my heart was just aching. It was aching. That doesn't feel real to me.
Starting point is 00:00:15 It was. I just, oh my God. I just wanted to be there so bad. But then you were. You know what? Then you didn't. Yeah. I need some more water.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Her name is Trish. She's got the fish and all it got some filthy, rich, pretty, and pink. Hot Topic Queen and says what everybody thinks she's just Trish. Yay! Hello, welcome to Just Trish. We're here with Oscar's Christmas Wish, a favorite guest of the podcast. kind of a surprise favorite of the podcast, right? Everyone's kind of getting.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Anyways, he's back. Everyone's shocked. I love being the dark horse of the Tricia Peda's podcast. Well, it doesn't seem like it fits, but you do Tentifacin. Theodore Niferson is your full name I just found out. Yeah, Theodore Kennedy Nivison Jr. Crazy. You sound like you should run for office.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I know, yeah. I've got like two presidential names in my full name because I've got the Kennedy and the Theodore. By design. Do you think that's why? Well, honestly, just kind of copy paste for my dad. dad because he's Theater Kennedy and Emerson Senior. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:29 They really went. I wonder if Kennedy was president when your dad was born. I think it was some sort of family name from a different, like a cousin or something like that. I don't know if it was like straight up like presidential Kennedy's though, but I am from Massachusetts. Okay. Is that where they're from? My dad's from New Jersey and my mom is from Massachusetts. She's from Brockton.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Brockton, Matt. Okay, we've been. Ironically, this is exactly how the last episode started in. Really? My friend Jeff is from Brockton. but, like, we're up in Newton, and, yeah, I have a boss of eyes. Whoa, that's, that's cool. Yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah. I like Massachusetts. You're from there, you're a national treasure. Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much. Who needs the Kennedys when we have a Nipfison. Yeah, thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here in the church phase.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I want to know about you two, because I feel like you guys have been crossing paths. He would come on and be like, damn, sad, and now, now, here's the thing. And Oscar knew this was coming, but I have a bone to pick with Oscar, because, Because I would say that I'm, what, two for two on showing up for the things that you've invited me to. It's true. Here we go. And I have invited Oscar to, I think, four separate things. No, it has not been four.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It's two. It's two. I don't know. I feel like there was a, there was, maybe. A birthday? It felt like four. It felt like twice as much as it was. Was there a basketball thing or no?
Starting point is 00:02:50 Is that just something you wanted? No, that was just me manifesting. That's you manifesting. Well, I haven't actually been playing too much basketball with us on lately. but if I get back in what part do you live in like the close to like Hollywood at all? I'll be there if his son's there.
Starting point is 00:03:04 He's not this way. He's this way, but we'll make the drive. Okay, okay. But the first one was I invited him to my birthday. Birthday's crazy to not go to. Okay, you invite, I saw it like the night of your birthday though and it was too much to mentally prepare. Now I'm going to pull you back because as you know,
Starting point is 00:03:21 it takes like a couple weeks and mentally prepare for an event when you are anxious, when you're anxious person. Okay. So, yeah, so that's not one. Did you invite him the day of? I don't think so. No, it was the same week, though, but you know I'm late on DMs.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I never said he said, okay. Yeah, and then. Wow, you invited him? That's literally so nice. I know. It was really nice. Wow. Oh, you invited everyone.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I also invited you. Oh. What? No, I didn't see. I think I sent you like a DM on, like, Instagram or whatever thing. Yeah, whatever thing that we're mutual is on. I sent you one there. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Okay. I wasn't going to bring it up. Send it to me. She's not going to see it. Send to Moses and I'll see it. Be like Fortress. Yeah. That from you, it wasn't as big deal from you because I was like, she's a businesswoman.
Starting point is 00:04:06 You know, she's a business woman. You're a business otter. You have a business otter. Ooh, I love that. Business otter is crazy. Yeah. No, I learned so much. I learned so much last time I was on.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You have a good memory that we talked about that. I mean, how could I forget that Oscar's an honor? Oscar the Otter. Gee, and there's also the goot. You did introduce her to gooning, and that's a whole other thing. Gooning, yes. I took off with that this year. Really?
Starting point is 00:04:31 You became a goon queen? Every show, everywhere. Wow. She does it live on stage, and it's always a hit every time she goooed. Really? I never heard of it. And they're like, oh, no, Ted talked about it. I was like, don't remember.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I don't remember anything. I don't remember anything I didn't talk about, including myself. So it's like, okay, yeah, you introduced it. So the second thought, though, that I invited an Oscar, too, was, this was more recent, but I was directing a music video which we had talked about last time about how I do that and we needed extras and I was like
Starting point is 00:04:59 well of course I'll invite Oscar to be an extra yep said yes by the way said yes to it ghosted no ghosted I didn't have that
Starting point is 00:05:12 first of all I told you this on hot but you don't forget everything it was a hot topic yes I talked about this I said it pained me to even like look at the DM because because I had to work it was a Wednesday at like 10 a.m. or like a Tuesday even. No, it was, it was like a big ask
Starting point is 00:05:26 at a base level. If I was not employed at like a corporate job, I would have been there. Your directorial work means the most to me. Like, are you curious? Why did you say yes? I said I will try, if I can get off work then I will be there. And I did try to get off work but I could have. I don't know how true that was.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And it was the same time. I couldn't even get off to see you in Beetlejuice. So, yeah. I was out of days off, to be honest. Yeah. All right. Yeah. But, and then it pained me too much to, like, let him down.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So I'm like, I'm just going to avoid this. But then when I'm just going to wait until he brings it up on a public forum. I did. Which makes it so many times more of an intense clocking. Yeah, but I guess he has support. I am clocking the tea. You are clocking the tea. You are clocking the tea.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You're clocking it. Yeah. And when I missed your birthday party, I did issue a statement via my publicist. I did see that. I did see that. That was ridiculous. That's actually crazy, though. Because the way you talk about Ted is the way I talk about Gerard Waite,
Starting point is 00:06:24 and I would drop everything. It's my kid's birthday. I'm giving birth. Dropped, I'm going. Like, I was contemplating how to go to MCR while I was giving birth. Like, it's just like there's just no thing that could keep me away from a birthday party that's someone I love.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I just couldn't, like, because I technically could just be AWOL. I guess from work for a day. I don't know what would happen. Sick, just say you're sick. I got, I'm sick. But I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:45 I got Ted Nibusonitis. Ooh. Oh, he's giving you. Oh, I love that. You too. I love that excuse. Like, honestly. No, 100%.
Starting point is 00:06:52 If Dorr was like, come be my music video, I'm like, I will drop everything. Like, I don't care what I'm doing. But I would admit, if I was the star. I feel like the two different, these are two different levels of things. I think he loves you more than I love Gerard way because he talks like more,
Starting point is 00:07:05 in the best way. Like your Christmas wish was 10 Neficent to come back. It's like, mine was like, you know, my kids to be happy, world peace, all that stuff like that. You're like, no, Ted. I was like, period. Wow. So I think you're a, and you were number one,
Starting point is 00:07:17 I think about anybody, really. Yeah, I only had two wishes. is and it was you and Jen McAllister. And so one out of two, that's a good, yeah. I feel like we get Jen too, but, Ted, but you're in communication because you guys also saw each other at a live event, was that? Oh, at Cutie and Maya's podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Well, we, we like, it was like we cross paths. Yeah, it was like, I came on, I went on, uh, uh, wine about it, um, with QD and Maya. And then I was walking out and then Oscar was showing up. And I was like, whoa. Hey. Ooh, did you do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I was like, hello, old friend. I don't know specifically what the... Yeah, what do you remember? Do you remember the... I know specifically you're like, Ted went, get your phone out. We should do a little video. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah, well, no, I was like, we should do a thing. We should do a thing for the people who are invested. Yep. Did you ever post it? Yeah. Yeah, he posed a nice story. What was it? What was, oh, just...
Starting point is 00:08:14 For like the PR or the PR agency, the Oscar PR. The Oscar Crave. A little leak. A little leak. I didn't post it, so yeah. It worked, the leak worked. Yeah, yeah. Did you like tease like, oh, we're working on something yet or you're just like, I just ran into
Starting point is 00:08:24 him? I think it was just like we ran into each other. Yeah, I wasn't full strategized, I guess. Yeah. It was an old marketing. You guys do look at each other. Maybe it's the wrong glasses and the hair, but you guys kind of do look at each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Last time you were here, everyone said, and this is what I'll captioned my Instagram is, why doesn't the big Ted Nivisin eat this small Ted Nivisian? That was a comment? A lot. That's funny. That is, that was literally someone said about me and Trixie McEma. tell you of the same thing. Oh my gosh. Well, we love. We love a talk on it. How are you? I'm doing good. I mean, it's, man, it's been a year and a half. That's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:57 A year and a half, yeah. It was May, or like April of 2024. Yeah. I feel like I'm, I'm kidless, so I feel like I don't have as well of a, like a means to determine how time moves. Well, do you have something? Like, what would you say happen in that year and a half that you'd be like, wow, this is what happened? Man, I don't know. I gained like 25 pounds. That was, that was a pain. That was a pain. Wait, it was bad? You don't want to do that? No, I didn't want to.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Okay, so went to Europe this summer. That was fun. I had never been to, like, I went to Italy. It was like a whole, like, family thing. And then my girlfriend and I, we went, like, all around Europe. We went to, like, Portugal and, like, France and stuff like that. And I'll, here's the thing I'll say about. Europe that I think not a lot of people and I'm looking at you Moses too because I feel
Starting point is 00:09:52 like everyone's heard this where people when when people in America go to Italy or something they're like oh I lost like 15 pounds yes the food there's so fresh it's so real we all say that not to me I'm like I gain weight out there I'm like yeah I was like I was expanding it was I thought I was like I got scammed I don't know if I was eating like the fast I mean granted I do try in every country I go to, but it wasn't like I was eating it all the time. Maybe that was the, maybe that was it. Just the one thing?
Starting point is 00:10:23 No, actually, you know what? They actually say it's like less processed over there, that it's like real meat and it's better for you. Right, exactly. That's what I thought too. And then I, you know, then I, I'm, maybe I'm putting, I should probably put, I, we started in, in, like, two days in Ireland and ended in the UK, so maybe I can put the blame on the UK.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I'm surprised because their food's usually not that tasty. So I'm surprised that you would have, like, wait. In just Europe or the UK? The UK, specific. Well, they, I don't know, they had some good stuff. I'm trying to remember, like, what I even had that I like. Beans and toast, fish, yeah, beans and, yeah, I don't even know if I had the beans and toast, maybe that was the critical, that's a critical cultural meal they have over there, too.
Starting point is 00:11:02 It's not great, but they like it. Yeah, but, yeah, no, I did a Euro trip this summer, which was cool. How long? It was like a month. Wow, that's a long time. Are you making content? Are you just vacationing? The only content I made was I did like I made I was really into a VHS camera that I was like filming everything I hold trip on and then I ended up making a little like kind of very low key music video for my buddy James Marriott when I was in Brighton in the UK. That's why we ended up in the in the UK for a little bit there. Is it out? Yeah, that's out. Yeah. Are both of your videos out the one you wanted Oscar in too? I think was out. The one that I wanted Oscar in will probably be out by the time that this one, the one, the one, the
Starting point is 00:11:44 Is this come out? Tomorrow? Oh, it comes out. Yes. Oh, okay, turn around. Then it'll come out, like, I think that, like, in the context of this, when this is out, it'll come out tomorrow. I think it comes out on Friday.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. And who was it for? It's for a band called Good Kid. Good Kid. Okay. And you directed it? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Do you have a production company then, or how does that work? So I worked with one producer on a bunch of previous music videos, but they were in a very but they weren't available for this one in particular. So I had to use the connections that I had for people that also did film to find. Basically, the way it works is you just need to find a producer that can basically, that has, like, production insurance. That's really all you need. And then they can, like, you can do all the stuff like renting equipment and, like, getting locations and stuff. So I got in contact with this one producer, Chris, and he kind of, like, helped me pull the whole thing together.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And what's Oscar's role going to be? He was going to be, well, the music video is about, like, a mascot fight club, like, in a ring. So it's like. I love it. So comedic. Comedic, but also kind of dramatic in a way, too. But we needed a bunch of people to be in the crowd that's like, going like, you know. Oh, he was going to be a crowdgoer.
Starting point is 00:13:01 He was going to be a crowdgoer. Yeah, I mean, it was pretty awesome, though. I mean, we got a guy. So it's a guy in a guerrilla costume versus, like, the singers in the in the teddy bear mascot costume but he's like we replaced him with a like a stunt person or like a boxer guy for like the actual fighting portions because the guy in the gorilla costume was like a three year he was in the w w.E for like three years so he did like these like slams on him in the ring and stuff and was like running the rubs back and forth and you were
Starting point is 00:13:37 directing it all yeah yeah I directed the whole thing and little choreography I guess there too. Yeah, there was a little bit of flight choreography too. Wow. Okay, so you've been busy. So that's why you weren't to the UK. Why were you in like Italy, just family you said? Yeah, there was like, so usually my family will do like every other year or something will, well, usually like my grandmother, she used to do this thing where she would have the whole family like in the Jersey Shore or something at like one house where everyone stayed in one house and the whole family gets together. And then when she passed away, our family kind of kept doing it. And my cousin, Maggie, like one year was like, all right, 2025, we're doing the Italy trip.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And it was like, we'd never done anything like that before. But we ended up getting like, we all pitched in and got like this house in Tuscany that we all stayed in. And then there was like a couple nights where there was like a pizza chef. So your cousin, Maggie, you said, is the one like coordinated all this. She's like the spearhead of all this. Or she is excited. Yeah. Well, she was one of the big pitchers for it.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I think, yeah, Maggie and, and my husband. My cousin's wife, Jolie, they were really kind of, they were the planners. This isn't really super interesting information. No, I love it, no, I love it. Well, I also love that you mentioned that you, like, had a girlfriend
Starting point is 00:14:54 because it's very, you're a streamer. Yes? I haven't streamed it so long. Oh, you're not. I end up at the streamer awards, but I'm a YouTuber primarily. Were you there? Were you there?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Were you there? Yeah. How's that? It was good. Well, and it's back to the girl, because everyone is, like, so, like, everything's really secretive, right? About the streamer awards, like the event by the QD ring?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah, how was that? It was great. It was great. I think it was, like, the fifth annual one. I love going every year. They, you know, she invites me every year, and I haven't, I didn't stream all year. And so. Oh, did you win?
Starting point is 00:15:26 I didn't, I didn't win Jack? No, no. Oh, you just went. Yeah, no, I would be, I feel like I would, I would be afraid that people would get mad at me if I did get nominated because I didn't stream it all. Honorary I love that But it's funny to show up
Starting point is 00:15:44 I mean because I'm just I know so many people in the streaming space So it's like It's kind of like I don't know It's like The streaming space has changed
Starting point is 00:15:52 A little bit over the years But it's kind of fun Because you just get Everyone comes into town You just get to see like a bunch of friends It is amazing the budget I love QT Shoutout QT
Starting point is 00:15:59 She made Elvis's first birthday cake Literally for free Has she come on the pod? No would love Hook it up anytime Want her invite her She's amazing
Starting point is 00:16:09 Like, I don't know her personally. Obviously, we know each other. And she's like, I'll make Elvis's cake. And it was this huge, like, stitch cake she made. It spent, like, five hours on. She's a whiz with the baking. Oh, my, like, I was like, and I'm like, let me know how much. And she's like, oh, no, like, it's just on me.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I was like, okay, like, literally the nicest. Yeah, amazing. Have you had our cakes? Have you tried them? Do you know what's crazy? I have not. But I've always seen them. I've always been, I've orbited them in some way.
Starting point is 00:16:32 But I've never, I've just never been at a, well, maybe, maybe at some point I had some sort of, I don't I don't know. I've never had one of the, like, the crazy ones, though, that's for sure. They're tasty. So in real life at the streamer awards, are you just, like, gagged by what's going on? Or are you, like, because, you know, there was, like, a little bit of drama, I guess, you could say, backlash. With the roasting jokes. With the roasting jokes. I saw that. I saw that. And it's funny, because in the moment when you're, when you're there in person, like, you don't really, like, you know how the internet works where it's like something goes through a filter and then people offer their opinions. And then suddenly something kind of morphs into becoming what the actual issue or narrative or whatever. whatever is. Right. It's like, in the moment it was just like,
Starting point is 00:17:12 Fanfan was just going around doing her thing. Right. And when it happened, I was like, oh, there's probably some sort of implicative inside joke here that I'm missing. We're privy too. Yeah. We're talking about like the diddy mention thing, right? The diddy joke thing.
Starting point is 00:17:27 There was the diddy joke. There was just, you know. I don't know. You know, Oscar knows. I think just every one of her jokes was very specific. It was very specific. So anyone outside. of the audience was like
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah Yeah Was it confirmed She did not write those No I think she was probably just him Yeah Oh she confirmed she did
Starting point is 00:17:47 Me getting everything wrong Okay What about do you think There was any snubs Snubs How do you mean I think Vanil Mace didn't run Right
Starting point is 00:17:54 She's like she wasn't she like The streamer of the year Because she is the most popular This year And she got no wins Oh That's a bummer I'm like
Starting point is 00:18:05 Do you know her I love Vanilla Mase I actually met her For the first time At, I introduced my, because I had never met her before, but I just, like, introduced myself to her, because, like, we know a bunch of the same people. Yeah. At, it was the premiere for Markiplier's new movie, and it was, like, an after party, and I just said, hi. And she's very nice.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And, and, I think, honestly, we related on some things, but I'm like, I don't want to docks that, like, that stuff. So I was like, ah, but we, but we connected, we connected, and it was good. I love that. I love when you can, like, sense of yourself. Yeah. Yeah, it was like from the area that she's from then I was like, I don't know. Oh, okay. I see. I love her, but also trying to get her on. Thank you so much to Ali Pop for a sponsor today's episode of Just Trish. And how cute are these holiday cans? Their Yeties are back in the classic flavors. Today I'm popping open a ginger ale. Ooh, nice crisp. Look at that.
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Starting point is 00:20:52 Get some water. Yeah, who would you win? Who would I win? Yes. Hmm. Who would I want to win? Honestly, I feel like, have you seen the burnt peanut guy? I've been really into that, this is like, this is not going to track with you guys
Starting point is 00:21:06 at all because it's like, you big video, you big gamer, Tricia? Maybe I love my craft for Halloween this year. So there's this game that's popping on for now called Arc Raiders. Yeah, no, that's falling flat. I know it. No one, no one's getting it. Well, there's this streamer burnt penis. who, like, puts his face in, like, that Instagram, like, that Snapchat filter where you look
Starting point is 00:21:26 like a peanut where it gets rid of your nose and it's just, like, the eyes on the mouth or whatever. I'm not seen. Well, he's been blown up, and he's very funny, and he won a bunch at the, and I was like, that's cool because I've been seen his clips on TikTok and stuff. For a peanut, you know him? No. Cutie did say next year I could present an award.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Yeah, I don't know why you weren't there. You've been on QT's podcast. I know. She called me and she said, I forgot, I forgot that you wanted to present, but next year you can. And I was like, okay. So I've been practicing my, my, what I'd say on the show. is it. Okay. Let's hear it. Okay, this will be my little test. Hey, everyone,
Starting point is 00:21:57 last year, Cudy got some flack because she said that the streamer awards were a little too gay. So she brought me. And honestly, when you have Hassan and Austin show up in the front table, I could see why. Will you two queens give it a rest? That's all I got.
Starting point is 00:22:12 That's pretty good. You're like that. I like that. Yeah. No, you've like literally written it. You got my head. It's memorized. Yeah. Like, you've got it memorized. like a year in advance. I know. The delivery was good.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Thank you. I have to workshop it a little bit more. I was originally going to say a slur, but I figured maybe not. Maybe I'll tell you not. Get her canceled. Or I feel like it's a lot. I feel like that no one, you wouldn't get canceled though because you're, you're gay. Yeah, I get the pass.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Are we just talking about the F slur? Yeah, of course. And everybody says at my mean, grids, everyone's just like, woo, I'm a. And if anything, if you're saying it to Austin, I mean, that's just friendly fire. Yeah, yeah, T. Right, right. Yep, yep. I don't think it's, I don't think it's bad.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I don't know. You listen to him, I had no idea. And I imagine that a song is very popular with the gay community. Oh, yeah, yeah, very much so. Okay. Yeah, so I think they would love it. Yeah, I think they would love it. Next year.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Maybe you guys can present together. Oh, my God, we have a little bit. Yeah, that would be fun. Come on matching outfits. Us producing. Oh, my God, yeah, should we do the matching outfits and we like, and we like stand each other and we're like, like that, you know. And just that pan?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, like dead pan? And what's, that's it? I don't know what the, I don't know what the, I mean, we're workshopping it right now. I like it. Who knows how it'll end up in its final form? We got a year to, we got a year to work it out. You guys do have, like, so good chemistry.
Starting point is 00:23:30 That's why I was, like, so disappointed when you couldn't make it work for Ted. Like, you said, he's been here twice, and I was like, oh. I know, I know. It paint me more than it paint anyone else in this room. It doesn't feel real. It is real. It feels like, it feels like performance here. It just, it just, it just, my heart was just aching.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It was aching. It was a thing. That doesn't feel real to me. It was just, ah, I just. Oh, my God. I just wanted to be there so bad. But then you were. That's, you know what?
Starting point is 00:23:57 Then you didn't. Yeah. I need some more water. I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm getting pissed. No, I was, I was shocked when he told me all that. I was like, wait, what? You're getting invited to all these things and you're saying no. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah, no. Well, I didn't say no. I just ghosted, which is crazier. You knew about it and didn't follow up. Yeah. Which is. He was avoidant. Why?
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yes. That's very, yeah, that's how I process things. But it does. Yeah. to reject you. I'm like, I can't. It's like, so I just avoid it. That's such a, it's such a specific word too.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It pains you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It does. I confess immediately. It's with a heavy heart. I have to say that I cannot show up. It is very genuine. Like, I think for anyone else, I would just ghost and not think about it.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But for you, I thought, it stuck with me. It's been heavy on my heart and on my conscience for this whole time. But I love that you keep asking and I love that you ask to make a video. I love that you're the one that keeps persisting. I think that's very sweet. Knowing, like, you're the big fan, but he's the one guiding it. Yeah, probably the number one Ted Nevisin fan I would think. For sure.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah. And not ironically. No, it's great. I've never, you know, I'm so, I'm very flattered. I'm very flattered every time I'm reminded of it because it's, you know, so I'm just Okay, so the, the Christmas wish came up, but you guys were telling me that it's every episode I'm coming up. But I'm wondering how, like, I just don't think that I really, as a person, have that much to talk about. where it could come up every time. Well, it does.
Starting point is 00:25:24 It does. I think every time we talk about a straight guy, we like compare whatever straight guy we're talking to, to you. Wow. Wait, like. You're the comparison. Am I the blueprint?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, you're the blueprint. Yes. You're the one we like. You're like the, yeah. That makes me feel so remarkably good. Yeah. And I'm not going to let it get to my head. Let me just make that clear first.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I'm not going to like, because I know that people watching around watching around and I was like uh-oh I'm not gonna let it get to my head guys you're down to earth always and I think that's why I like I like you because you're just like low-key you know what I'm never seeing you in like a mess online and I was like oh I like that oh yeah dude I would never I don't like messes online yeah that yeah no I'm not I'm not very I mean I think we talked about this last time I'm like not super not super into the drama I well but you were looking for some tea from the stream words one thing that did happen one thing that did happen that was crazy in the moment was it was like they were doing a lot
Starting point is 00:26:22 transition from one award to another and then I don't know this streamer specifically but some of a woman came up on stage and then she started like saying to the mic she was like so-and-so should have won this award oh yeah you know the specifics of that because I was watching it happen and I was like oh this shouldn't be I was like oh that's not allowed oh so you knew in the moment
Starting point is 00:26:42 well yeah because it was like they said that someone else I think they said that like Maya was coming out and then this other person came from the audience and came on stage it was like It was like... Yeah, no, it was like, it was, yeah, fully I like it. That was not. India loves, do you know?
Starting point is 00:26:56 India love is her name. India love? Yes. And then ironically, it was like the award for women was about to happen. And then she came on and she was like, Rukai deserved to win stream of the year. Bum, bough, bough, bough. And then she got escorted out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:10 They escorted her out. Yeah, no, the security was like escorting her out of the building and stuff. The hosters had no security come up when Will Smith came out. And you remember in this one, they're like, oh, we're taking her off, we're just talking? I mean, granted, probably rightfully. So was someone up there accepting? or she was just by herself. It was like in the transition.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like one person just left and then someone was going to come out but then in that period she came up. It was like, I think I was seeing some stuff online. The controversy was that they were like, why did they keep her, turn her mic on or something? Because their mic was on. So like it was streamed.
Starting point is 00:27:37 So they could have not had her mic on or something like that. I don't know. What do you mean mic like she was miced or the mic in front of her? Like the mic in front of her was like transmitting to the like live. Maybe they just not to turn it off.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I don't know. I don't know what would have. been better is to allow themselves to make that moment and have it turn into whatever it would be or turn it off or to turn it off because then it's like hmm I don't know there's just so many angles that drama can go where it's like because then it's like you're silencing a woman if you turn off the lot you know why we like how you think that is very true you shouldn't do that either yeah shouldn't silence a woman well period honestly that I think I think in general we could just do away with drama if there was no live anything
Starting point is 00:28:20 Like no live streaming, no live award shows, because all the drama comes from live streamers this year. You know, it's like, just don't be live. And I'm not trying to victim blame when people are like whatever. But like, let's just not know where we're at right on the dot, you know. You're for sure right about like most of the drama I feel like I'm seeing is like, yeah, no, the live stream community is very splintered more so than it was in the past. Like I feel like there's a bunch of streamers that are like now super like red-pilled and they're just like talking just, just. just spewing crap out of their mouths on Twitter the whole time. It's, yeah, no, it's, it's messy.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And it's weird because there was a period where, that I remember, where it was like, everyone was just, like, chill with each other. And it was like, whoa. No, not anymore. Yeah, I think that's just also kind of what happens when, like, a space just gets bigger, is that, like, conflict is just bound to happen like that, you know? But you don't see that with, like, hype house, you know what I mean? You see it with streamers.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I feel like you definitely saw it without. Charlie Addison, Alex Warren They're all so cool with each other They're all Grammy nominees Well I feel like that Hype House was like Wasn't there a whole thing With the manager of the Hypoise
Starting point is 00:29:29 That was that was Like he was like an old person Taking advantage of him Like he was like an older guy That took advantage of these young kids Wasn't he like they around the same age as them though A little bit And they were 18
Starting point is 00:29:38 That's a big age gap From 18 to 28 Yeah that's what some might call An inappropriate age gap Yeah exactly like if it's older He was 28 wow Right Thomas was his name
Starting point is 00:29:48 I think he was like 28 And they were like 18 Or some of them were like 16, like Charlie. The only thing I vaguely remember on him is he had very thick eyebrows. Yeah. He had thick eyebrows. And he was a little dubious. Like he was like, I think taking advantage of them a little bit, like just taking percentages of like.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh, like crazy like 50% of their ad deals or something like that. I don't know. And this is all like alleged. But his argument was like I paid for the house and this. I don't know. But maybe he wasn't. I think maybe he did say he wasn't. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I could be. All I know is he was very old and they had issues with him old in the sense compared to a 16. But at the very least there's T drama right in there with the hyperboats. Right, okay, there you go, period. YouTubers, I think OG YouTubers, we had no drama. Why? I started, 2007? Okay, think about 2007.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Maybe later on. But 2007, was there any drama between Smosh or Shane? Yeah, I mean, you've never had any sort of drama at all. Neat and out of the equation. I don't consider myself in any of these categories. You've never been embroiled in anything. Nothing ever, nothing has ever happened. I've done good saying out of drama these past six, five, four years.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Absolutely, I agree. You know, I'm trying to be like you. I really do. I love... Isn't it so much more peaceful? I can sleep at night. Isn't it so nice? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I would say to a certain degree, the drama, I feel like it's lucrative. Yes, especially now. The rage bait. Like, I think that, oh yeah, and like clipping stuff too. Like clips of like live streams and stuff like that and like, yeah, no. I was the OG rage baiter. You were you? For sure.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And I was like, everyone hated me before, but I was like, we love rage baited words like this. Are you still, you know what you should. keep doing or if you're you might still be doing the way you still doing the tavern stuff no i did retire those about a you retired it's in the works for a show we're shopping it around yeah so that's why whoa yeah kind of like a like a royal court kind of thing no we're talking bridgetton yeah oh like full-on narrative i'll take a royal court though i will take that too but we are very similar we should do a crossover yes i yes i'll take either one we're aiming for bridgetin would love a royal court We're now still on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:31:49 But I retired it because I was just like, well, let me hold it off for a minute. But maybe I should bring it back and get some more people excited about it. Yeah, because I feel like that's a pretty universally loved format. Really? Yeah. Let me do one.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Hello. Can we get a hello traveler? Me or you? You. Okay, are you going to role play with me? Do you improv? All right. I'll do some improv with you.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Okay. I'll do some improv with you. Okay. Should I be also kind of like I should put on an accent too? Yeah, it's like a patron. Okay, this is like the pilot. Then invite the pilot. Oh, I'm so about it in front with people.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Okay, so, okay, here we go. All right, I'll be all start. I'll be like, hello, traveler. What brings you into the tavern? O'y, give me your biggest point of ale that you got. Biggest point of ale? You want to be bigger, do you? I want it, I want it so big.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I'm a drown in it. Don't you see no giants allowed in here, Traveler? Oh, well, I'm only. half giant and now I'm starting to be a little Australian too. Why from Down Under? Why didn't you say so? Have some kangaroo. Oh. Oh, that's some, that's some good kangaroo.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I love this heaven. Do you? Well, it's poison, you giant. Get him off, go drag him out. Dragon mouth. Yeah, that's pretty good. Oh my God, it's not see it coming. I did not see the poison coming.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I'll admit it. The poison's always coming. I was definitely an emotional change. Oh, my God. It should have been a little more creative because the poison does always come, but it should have been a little more creative, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:33:22 No, I do, there's a poison, oh, right, it does. It comes, yeah, I was, the other. No, and that's, well, that's, everybody needs, like, a, like a, what's it called, a trademark? Right, in something like that. And it's like the tavern owner who just manages to just poison so many people
Starting point is 00:33:40 and still stays in business. That's right. That's how I stay in business. It's very White Lotus, where someone always dies at the beginning and who did it. But we know who does it. It's just the town of her made each time.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah, yeah, because we got her on camera every time. Well, thank you for the encouragement on that. I really appreciate it. Maybe I will continue. What about science? What's happening in the world of science? That's awesome because I'm like, can I just say? I am like not at all an expert on science, but I do, and I will stress this again, Trish.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I do think that the moon landing happened. I'm sorry, Moses. I'm sorry, guys. Apologize to Kim Kardashian because she also doesn't think it happened. Okay, well, I hope that somebody takes her to court for that because she's going to be a lawyer soon. Maybe, not yet. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:27 She's struggling as what I've seen. That's okay. Yeah. I haven't even attempted the bar, have you? I haven't either. Yeah, so she's ahead of us a little bit. No, you're right, you're right. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:34:36 That was a good, you clocked. Is that, do you clocked me? Yeah, I've been clocked. That's very fair. I mean, do you know what's funny? bring him back up my cousins all lawyers that side of the family like i think uh my my my cousin maggie her husband my my my other cousin i think that was and then my uncle who is the father of those two lawyers all of them and they would always tell me like even though i'm very much so a content
Starting point is 00:35:05 creator doing youtube doing pretty well like i'm i feel like i'm gonna be good on a family They'll always be like, you're going to be a lawyer someday, I'm telling you, you're going to be a lawyer. And I'm like, I have no patience to go and take the bar, right? Like, go and do that. And do school. Yeah, but I think it's one of those things where it's like I like, I'd like to think that I could, you know? I'd like to think that I could, but I have no evidence to determine that that would be possible. I think you could, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Do you have your bachelor's? Of course you do. Yeah, you're a. I do have a Bachelor of Science. Oh. Did we know that? Well, it's in cinema and photography. Oh, what is that?
Starting point is 00:35:46 What? How do you get a science degree? I don't know how it happened. That's one of the biggest bits of my college experience is that there was, because it was two options, the BFA or the Bachelor of Science. And you got science because you did cinematography? Yeah, well, I just, I just did like the, it was just cinema or cinema and photography, but I did the concentration in cinema. So it was, I don't know why it's a bachelor's science. It's pretty impressive, though.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Just don't say, I mean, the cinema is impressive. Oh, that's impressive. I didn't go to college. But, like, that is impressive. So do you have any updates on cinematography or science? Cinema talk. Well, there was the music video that did that. And then in terms of science, I think.
Starting point is 00:36:21 What about in our world? What science had happened this year? Man, science this year. AI. God, I mean, AI just keeps doing its thing, huh? You a fan? I'm cautious of it. I think I, like, when it first came out, there were, like, instances where I was like,
Starting point is 00:36:41 oh, this is cool, I'll use it. And then I started thinking about it more and I was like, well, it's actually kind of, I don't know, it's hard. I think it's in such a weird cultural period right now where we haven't collectively figured out how we feel about it. And there's like a lot of arguments about it.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah. In terms of like what is, how do we feel about something when it's been made by a machine? Like if we're talking purely about like generative AI, like making pictures and movies and stuff like that i don't know i think it's at the end of the day it's it's still a tool um and like in like i don't think a i was ever going to be able to just make this wonderful tear jerking movie
Starting point is 00:37:22 like i don't know if it's it's i just don't think it's gonna get to that level i hope about a i actors that's that always just feels weird and predatory yeah like from a pure like studio perspective of like yeah no we don't need to like pay him anything and they'll just like do whatever we want. Yeah, we like to spread rumors about the AI actors here. Like, we want to get them canceled. Wait, so is this like a full thing? Like there's, like, yeah. I forgot her name that one girl. Yeah. The one that everyone didn't like. Yeah. We said she was racist and homophobic. Really? Yeah. Well, I bet she is because she's AI, so you could get her to say whatever you want. That is very true. She quite literally doesn't have morals. Thank you so much to aura frames for sponsoring today's
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Starting point is 00:40:18 Thank you so much to Orrframes for sponsoring today's episode. T. Oh, you clocked for. Yeah, I guess, right. They can have her to anything. She says whatever people tell her to do. So it's like, have a backbone, honey. I wrote down a cinema question for you, actually.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And I don't know how this came to me. But what I wrote down was, you are a big film buff. Are the Avatar movies racist? So that is a conversation, isn't it? Like, in terms of, like, indigenous cultures and stuff like that? Yeah, I mean, James Cameron is a white guy. And he made a... But then at the same time, it's, I don't know, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Because it's like, to us... It's almost like, in a way, the Avatar movies are kind of, like, revenge films in the same way that like I don't know like Tarantino would make a revenge film where you like set up like a very specific circumstance like where like in glorious baxers is like let's just down a bunch of like these in this gratuitous violence sort of way as like oh you know and it makes you feel good in the same way that it's like the indigenous people on this planet are fighting it back against the colonists and they're winning so it's on the side of the characters in Pandora, but it's also co-opting a lot of like cultural markers
Starting point is 00:41:42 of societies that exist on earth. So I don't know. I don't know if I, I don't know if I am the person to be able to make. I think you are. Interesting. Indigenous roots? No, maybe 23 of me. I mean, The closest thing I have is that, like, in devenvison. Oh, that's a lot of your name. Maybe a little bit of a, like, a sound connection with the last name, but other than that, no, white is a, white is a saltine. Oh, so yeah, maybe not. Yeah, one side, one side Irish, other side's Scottish. So, cold areas, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:25 What are your letterbox top five? Four. Oh, what are your letterbox top four? You love this question, too. This is your question. I'm like, oh. Currently I have, I don't know. I'm really bad with deciding top movies, but currently what I have on there is,
Starting point is 00:42:41 is How's Moving Castle, Scott Pilgrim versus the World. Wow. That's crazy. The movie from Steve McQueen Hunger, and then an Argentinian film called Wild Tales. Oh, he had a foreign film. Oh, my God. I knew it. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yep. You know any of those? No, I know How's Moving Castle. We have no crossover. You don't know a scaffold? You don't know, Scarborough? I know it. That's one of my favorite directors.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I like Edgar Wright a lot. Okay. Yeah, you do? I have a lot of mean-grit photos with him. Really? I've never met him. Yeah, when... What's your...
Starting point is 00:43:17 Okay, well, let's talk about Edgar Wright. Yeah. Let's lock in, Chris. I like Hot Fuzz. Hot Fuzz is great. Hot Fuzz is great. I actually, I showed my girlfriend that movie for the first time. Did she like it?
Starting point is 00:43:27 Yeah, no, she liked it. I wonder if I would like it. I was a picnic in this. era so this is my Quentin Tarantino era where I'm just like I love that you're right like he's so good but I wonder if I would like it now because I even watch some Quentin movies now and I'm like I don't really like that really like which which ones recently well also if we're talking about drama oh oh yes well you
Starting point is 00:43:47 you know about this him coming for everybody coming from literally everybody is he coming from I think it was just coming for Paul Dana no there was a long live Matthew Lillard he said was horrible yeah Owen Wilson she's coming for Shaggy yeah yeah she's coming from Shaggy from the live action and Scooby-Doo movies. Exactly. And also, I think he's in Five Nights at Freddy's. It's the new scream.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Like, it's his renaissance. I was like, what are we doing missing the plot? Love, Quentin. My career starting is to Quentin. My first, like, 100 videos on YouTube were for Quentin. I wanted him to notice me so bad. And so I, like, loved him, but also, like, what are we doing? Like, why are we on this podcast?
Starting point is 00:44:20 Just saying everyone we hate is crazy. Yeah, no, that's like so, it's just rude. It's just like, it's just like, I just, I just, well, you know what? Hey, Quentin, cut it out, man. Hey, why don't you just stop that? That's not fun. Why do we do that? I know.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Because it's like nobody's good. Like, I don't think that anyone is, he's, I don't know. I think that he's just, there's too much of an ego there. That's clearly just like an ego thing that it's like, you know, he's just spent, when you spend too much time, like, everyone. Oh, my God. Oh, you're like, oh, you're the filmmaker. He's only going to make 10 films ever, like.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Waiting on the 10. Yeah. Yeah, wait a... Yeah, let's get to the 10th, Queen. Come on. No, I just don't think that anyone is ever good enough or in that position where they feel like they can put people down like that in such, like, a public manner. That's just so, like, have some respect.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Matthew Lilly responded and said it hurt. Really? Yeah, he was at a Comic-Con and someone brought it up, and he said, does hurt. Yeah, I mean, like, that's, like, one of the most famous directors all the time. He was just, like, being an asshole to you quite literally unprompt. Like, I mean, maybe prompted, but, like, for no real good reason. Not prompted. He was talking about his favorite movies, and then he just started.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Oh, so literally unprompted. Like, what do you love? That's crazy. He's like, well, I hate Paul Dano. Oh, my God. That's so. I know. It breaks my heart.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah. Yeah, a lot of random, like, weird moves from, from, like, people who had a lot of respect. Like, there was, um, the, did you see the thing about the Riyadh comedy festival? yes of course is that something you guys were talking about we didn't actually because we didn't have much insight we talked about it a little bit but we're kind of like we don't know what's happening well they were doing a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia and but like and it's problematic over there because I'm pretty sure that they're like there's a lot of human rights violations over there surely yes we gathered that and then these people were just like we're just going to go anyways well I mean I imagine that
Starting point is 00:46:25 there was a large monetary incentive were you offered were you propositions see this is something I was talking about in the Patreon section of my podcast. What is the Patreon? Give it a plug. We love Patreon over here. Take it easy. Take it easy. Are you a member?
Starting point is 00:46:40 Not of the Patreon, no. Oh, how have we not seen this? Patreon.com slash take it easy? Yeah, because Ted has the Take It Easy podcast and then he has a Patreon for. Okay. And this was on the podcast because you don't want to talk about it on the main one. You're like, maybe this is too. Well, because we just ended up talking about it.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I don't think we really like plan the certain like paywalled stuff or anything. It's just kind of how the conversation goes. but I was chatting about how I've never been in a position where I'm offered an amount of money that could be produced by the Saudi Arabian government. So I don't like to think right now that I wouldn't even like pause. I wouldn't even take a beat to say no to something like that. But then also I haven't ever seen that amount of offer. So I don't know about, I don't even know how weird these. the emotions of that could be, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:32 They have to be a million? I feel like that's still, that's too low. Yeah. That's too low. That's too low. But like if we're talking, if it starts to add another zero, then it's like, starts getting like, no. Ah!
Starting point is 00:47:45 No! It starts being like a, ah! No. Like I'm screaming through the mouth. Heavy on your heart. It pains me, but no, Saudi Arabia. I'm sorry. No.
Starting point is 00:47:58 And then, you know, I mean, you, God, I mean, yeah. So I think about that, but then it's also like, I don't know, there was so many comedians that went, and it was like, it just makes you wonder how much, that really becomes the question. How much and like what weren't they allowed to say? Because obviously it's not like there are probably restrictions to that too. I mean, I don't know. It's a, it's a little delicate, but I also think.
Starting point is 00:48:28 think that like in terms of people's like for like bill burr specifically i was looking at bill burr's comments on his instagram he was just posting as if things were normal and like all the comments were like yeah no i lost a lot of respect for you bill and i was like damn but isn't his thing like he's awful like everyone's like oh he's just that guy that like hates everyone i mean i think he his his thing is like that he's like he's like he tells truth to power at least to a certain degree he always seems grouchy he is definitely grouchy that's don't get me wrong Definitely is grouchy, but, like, I don't know. I think that it was, for a lot of people, it was, like, surprising that he would do that.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It seems like something that he would make a joke about. Right, okay. But is he, like, is he, like, a woke or is he, like, a Joe Rogan comedian? I wouldn't go as far as to say that he's a Joe Rogan comedian, but I wouldn't go. I think he's somewhere just, like, in the middle. I think he's just, like, he was, like, operating through the middle, but I don't know. Because I saw, like, even Tim Dillon being, like, side-eyeing people. Like, why did you go?
Starting point is 00:49:28 And I was like, to me, I feel like they would, like, a lot, like, that, to me, to Dylan seemed like someone who would be over there. So the fact that he was side-eyeing, I was like, I don't know. I don't know anything about him, but he hangs out with Joe Rogger. I have no idea. Yeah, it's just, like, such an interesting situation where it's just like, I just wish that, like, I just, I'm praying that an offer like that never comes my way. The $10 million?
Starting point is 00:49:48 Yeah, like the $10 million thing. Like, certain stuff, like, I don't even want to hear it. Like, for instance, like, I don't do, like, gambling sponsorships because, like, I don't really, you know, you can. can if you want, if you're a congregator, you know, I'm not saying that you can't do it. But, like, personally for me, I'm like, it just, you know, that's a literal addiction that people have, that ruins people's lives. And it's like, how could I take money to then promote the possibility of someone becoming
Starting point is 00:50:14 addicted and ruining their own life? Like, it just seems. Put a little disclaimer up there. Yeah. It just seems like, oh. We like morals. That's what we like about you. I love it.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah, so in that way. Yeah. But then when it, so when it comes to my agency, I'm like, don't even tell me about this. Don't even bring me offers like this. Because, like, I know that $4.5 or whatever the, you know, they're shelling out big cash. I don't even want to hear it. So I can't even, like, get pulled in that direction. Yeah, I just go buy, like, a lot of ticket.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Although you don't gamble. Well, it's like a billion dollars now. 1.4. I've never actually played, yeah, I don't think I've done, I think I've maybe bought, like, one scratch ticket ever. I don't even know. You haven't even done, like, a mega, it's a Powerball tonight. Is that tonight? One point for me.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I know. I'm cutting our Patreon short. I'm like 6.30. I got to be out because they close it at 7. And I play, do you know I play every day? I play the same numbers every day for the past five years.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Is that what you're supposed to do? Like you just choose, because that's confusing to me. Like they just, you just choose any set of numbers. You five. That's stressful. You can ask for a quick pick
Starting point is 00:51:18 and they'll give you random numbers. But I pick, I have five lines. So I have five picks every day. Wow. Five days a week because that's all it is. That seems like it would make. the most sense, because, like, I feel like, oh, that would, can you imagine if you didn't do
Starting point is 00:51:32 the same numbers every time and then, like, and then you switched it up? Like the one time, you would never forgive yourself. And then it was those numbers. Even when I'm, like, giving birth her on tour, I literally tell Moses go out and get those tickets because I, that's my biggest fear is the one day I don't play, because my numbers have never been called in the history of the lottery. So they have to be coming soon. Like, you know, and I was like never.
Starting point is 00:51:50 What are they, like, do we, you know, the odds, it's like, like, zero point zero zero one or something of it happening or something crazy. I was 0.001 on 11s. There you go. So it could happen again. There you go. It was closed down. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Okay, so this is always something I, this is something I like to think about in a dream scenario, even though I don't play the lottery. And I haven't played the lottery yet. It's like, if you were to win the lottery. Yeah. So what's the amount right now? 1.4. 1.4. So what's your first move?
Starting point is 00:52:19 Well, so then you get about 700 million. But then they ask you do you want 700 million over the course of 30 years or they give you a cash offer, which is probably realest. like 500 million, so really only getting 500 million of just 1.4 billion. But you're doing the cash, surely. Yeah, you want to get it all up front because... Time value of money. Yeah, of course. You don't know what. So, um, all I really want is this house in our neighborhood, actually, and it has water slides. And that's all I want.
Starting point is 00:52:40 So I'd go buy that. How much is that house? $10 million. Oh. Well, it's $8 million, but in my head I'm going to offer them $10 million. $2 million over asking. Yeah, because I feel like they're never going to leave that house. I'm going to offer them $10 million cash. Oh, it's not for sale. It was for sale when we bought this house, but we kind of swing it at the time.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And I was like, that's all I think about, it's all I talk about. And I'm like, okay, so that's why I play. And then I'll donate the rest. Is it just because of the water slides or like? The house is beautiful, too. Oh, that's cool. Let me just not docks everything because if I get it, someone's going to show up. But it's, it's a beautiful house.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's amazing. Everything about it's perfect and amazing. And it's right down the street. Well, that's great. Well, then, and then like that's, and then you're good. And then I'm good. And then we'll do, we want to feed. We've been talking about this for a long time before.
Starting point is 00:53:21 People were losing their snap benefits, but like feeding. We were talking about feeding people overseas, but we're like, maybe we started feeding some kids here in the U.S. too. So Moses is a really good cook, and he can make pounds of bolognais, so we're just going to make spaghetti for everyone and, like, meat sauce for everyone. So that was one of our dreams. We had another one. We had another philanthropic. Yeah, you could start a whole, you could start a whole, like, soup kitchen or something with money like that. Yeah, but, like, make – like, we love a soup kitchen, but I feel like, you know, the food's, like, chicken fingers that I like and, like, spaghetti, really good habachi for people, you know, and just have them eat good, too.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Yeah. For everyone. Because why are people doing that more? Why are people just not being fed? I know people do soup kitchens, but like, how come there's people that are hungry in this world? You know? Do you ever stop and think about that? This is a really loaded question, Dish.
Starting point is 00:53:59 It's like, people have money to feed them and they're not. Oh, yeah. I mean, that is, hmm, okay. Let me. Let me, I know. Get me a second and think about it. Why is there crazy wealth inequality in the world? How do we stop it?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Or just give some people some food. Yeah, no, seriously. I mean, probably countries adopting more, like, more socialist policies, I suppose. But what about here? That I'm talking about here. It's scary. That's me scary. I mean, we just, like, didn't we just, like, cut snap benefits or something like that?
Starting point is 00:54:34 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, what the hell? Like, we have the money, or we don't have the money, but we have the money. Print more money. What are your thoughts on overconsumption? On overconsumption, I think that I am a victim of overconsumption. You are? Uh-huh, I door dash way more than I should.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Oh, like, oh, you just eat a lot of food? No, I door-dash way too often. Wait, how does that affect the- I don't know, it feels like over-consumption because then you can- Well, because I'm not making food from scratch from the grocery store. Can't be Nora Smith, like, you know. You make up for it. With your car? With driving.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Well, no, I'm getting it delivered. None of them I'm saying is your car. Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've had it since I was 16. How did you know that? Because I just parked out front.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I just parked out front. He said my 2002 Toyota Tacoma. Wow. And you came in that too. Okay. Wow. Girlfriend has no problem with it. You got a keeper.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Honestly, if most of that 2002, I might be like, ooh, I don't know. How are we going to get around in this? I think to a certain degree. It fits. Okay. Look at me right now. And the fact that I drive an old, you know, medium-sized truck. I feel like that fits with the aesthetic.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I'd go as far to say that it's an attractive feature of me. Oscar? Yeah, I would agree. It does fit the brand. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so you're not, yeah, you have an old car. Like, you're not over-consuming. Like, the door dach of it all,
Starting point is 00:55:59 maybe the bags go into, like, a landfill or something, but, like, I don't think it's, like, are you eating it all? Yeah, no, I'm eating it all. So you're not wasting. You're not really, like, a trinket kind of person either. Yeah, I don't have a single luboo. Oh, that is for you.
Starting point is 00:56:14 See, that's who's the ultimate non-consumer. And you know what? All over Europe. You're seeing them in, like, the gift shops and stuff. I don't know if they were real, but they were everywhere. It's over now. Oh, I know. Oh, yeah, big time.
Starting point is 00:56:26 It was a, it was a beanie baby moment for sure. Now everyone's like, oh, no, look boo-boos. Yeah. Well, because I think that, I don't think that anything could happen, like, do you remember the Beanie Baby craze? Of course. Lived through it to Basco, the bowl. Like, we loved all of it.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah. Like, I don't know if anything like that could happen because I think that things on the internet now shift way too too quickly towards haters. like something will be popular for like five minutes and then someone's going to be like this is actually quinge this is actually really so fucking quenched and I'm done with being cringe
Starting point is 00:56:59 or I'm done feeling or being worried about being cringe like who How old are you? Are you millennial? How old are you? I'm 27. Oh my I got this. Okay Gen Z not wanting to be cringe I want to hear more. Well because what's funny is that people who are younger than me that are Gen Z will
Starting point is 00:57:18 call me a millennial or like I'll post like a TikTok and someone will say this is so millennial of you but then at the same time they're also like posting tick I'm seeing TikToks where it's like oh what it would what I wouldn't give to be in Williamsburg in New York City during wearing a really saggy beanie and a in a in a man bun during the hey song era To Chinatown You know No Come on
Starting point is 00:57:48 Where's the hay come in? Mumford and Sons And, you know No Oh you know Hey ho You know in the songs Hey ho let's go
Starting point is 00:57:59 That one No not that I mean you know in a song Where it's just like you hear like a really reverb Just like hey And it's like a lot of drum kicking and stuff And it's like 2011 music Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:11 How old were you in 2011? I was 13. Oh, wow. You're so young. Honestly, maybe more like 2008 music now that I'm thinking about it. 2009. Recession. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Obama era. Optimism music. And what year were you worn? 1998. Oh, so you remembering this? Like 10 years? Oh, I remember when Obama was elected. I remember because it was an elementary school, I think.
Starting point is 00:58:37 When did you get elected? No. 10? Yeah. Oh. I was in elementary school. Yeah, I think I was in, what, fifth grade, if I was 10, something like that. But I remember on the TV, they had the TV and they were playing as like inauguration.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And I remember at the time being like, things are going to be different. Wow. At such a young age? Well, I mean, I feel like every teacher was like, this is a big deal. Oh, okay. So you were, yes. Yeah, that was a big deal. But, like, there's a particular type of music and millennial essence that comes from the Obama-era-era.
Starting point is 00:59:10 optimism that also comes in the music where they're like in the songs they're like we're young we are young forever man none of this is connected we are young see i don't know i mean there's a joke thing by uh there's a comedian who he makes this it actually went viral for a little bit but not viral actually it just no i'm sorry i'm sorry i just use a slur oh god i'm about to go on a tangent right now. I'm yapping a lot. I'm sorry. No, I love it.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Okay, I've got a real big issue with the word viral now. Why? Because every single shilled product I see online, every recipe, every location in any city in the country is viral now. It's like, come with me to the viral new chicken bake, mac and cheese, honey butter chicken pop up in Silver Lake and it's like I have never heard this is not viral like I feel like viral isn't a thing anymore well I think you're not like online like that it probably is viral that hot honey chicken sounds very familiar it probably is viral I think the issue is I don't know a viral
Starting point is 01:00:26 happens anymore I think so we're so like oh this is viral well I'm about to cook here okay are you ready yeah all of our feeds are so individualized now that we're all fed a certain algorithm of things that are tailored to us. So things that go viral in the traditional sense of how they did, like, Charlie bit my finger is not, it was viral. That was something that was going on the news. That was something that, like, ABC was like, check out this kid who bit his brother's finger or numah, numah, numah, or like, stuff that was just, like, weirdly, like, everyone
Starting point is 01:01:02 saw, you'd show to each other in school, like, that felt viral, but, like, no pair of leggings, no knock-off Lulu Lemon leggings, are going viral. I don't know. Halara. Howlar leggings are viral. I just don't know. I feel like the word is diluted to a level where it's just like we're using it as a placeholder to just say like people like this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah. But it's like saying like world's best coffee back in the day, right? Everything is like the viral. Like you said, it's a selling point. That's it. I could have made a killer elf reference right there. A what one? Elf, the movie.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Oh, the movie? Okay. He walks in there, congratulations. World's best cup of coffee. Okay. I was like, what was that? You seem like an elf fan.
Starting point is 01:01:57 You do seem like an elf fan for sure. Damn, that's a critical piece of lore for me. Wow. Okay. But not in your letterbox top four, weirdly. I should have it in there. I should have it in there. I feel like I talked about this.
Starting point is 01:02:08 On this podcast, or maybe another podcast. It must have been another one. By far my most embarrassing moment as a film person is when I was interviewing for like internships when I was doing an L.A. program. It was kind of like in a broad thing, but like you're still in the country where you go to L.A. and you do like internships around L.A. Because I went to school at Ithaca, which is in New York and the middle of nowhere. and one of the interviews I had was for like a production assistant at Blumhouse and they asked me at the end of the interview what my favorite movie was and I panicked and I said elf oh my god this is why we're connected because I had an interview for the
Starting point is 01:02:54 academy and they asked me my favorite movie and I said The Hunger Games Catching Fire and I didn't get a follow up in a video yeah and I didn't either and it was like the interviewer lady she was like oh And then I was like This is a horror movie production company Why the fuck did I say that? And I started trying to play it off I'm like
Starting point is 01:03:12 Because it's just like It's just like a good storyline I just really love it Yeah Not even that You could have thought Something else maybe like Yeah no it was rough
Starting point is 01:03:22 I don't know I don't know They have James Kahn That's kind of big Yeah Yeah so that was rough But You're ready to watch
Starting point is 01:03:30 An Elf marathon Coming up now that it's Christmas Right Doesn't they play that like 24 hours a day? It's a good day I mean, I definitely watch it every year. You think that's the superior Christmas movie next to like a Christmas story.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I think it's above it. That's the one where it's with Ralphie, right? Yeah. Hmm. That one I've always, I think I've always had like a negative reaction to that one because I always know he's going to shoot his eye out. And I think as a kid I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:57 I can't promote this movie because it's going to work against any, like me being able to have an argument for things that I want for Christmas because my parents could be like, well, you saw what happened to Ralphie when he wanted something. What were you asking for? That would hurt yourself? Dude, a gun. No, it's a kidding. No, no, I don't know. I think I just there was like
Starting point is 01:04:17 I think it's some sort of like I had, you know what it was? I had a really big issue with buyers remorse as a kid. We had a thing to have as a child when you're not even spending your own money but love it. Okay, well, let me explain. It's like I would ask something for my parents
Starting point is 01:04:36 like at a store or something I'd be like I want that thing and then I would get they would get it for me and then after I would be like oh shit but did I want the other thing instead and I would like
Starting point is 01:04:47 really struggle with it and I don't think it was like me trying to be like ungrateful necessarily it was more like I felt like I made the wrong decision and I and it really tore me up and I think with the Christmas story thing
Starting point is 01:04:59 that was like I don't know I feel like it was kind of like that with the shooting his eye out or something like that. That makes sense and it just goes to prove too
Starting point is 01:05:08 that you are not an over-consumer and the fact is you could have been like I'll have both. Right, that was the original question wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:05:12 I took it so far away. If I'm saying all these things would leave me to believe you're not same shirt as last time you're not, you know? That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Like you really haven't changed. Yeah, that is yeah. And I love that. These are the same pants. You have same pants. I switched some stuff up I got the snake boots on. I like those are very cool.
Starting point is 01:05:28 We had a snake in here literally last week. He was right on that chair. What type of snake? Do we remember? I don't know. A vet, a local. He was people sexy as vet came on with a snake.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Whoa. He's very tall, too. I wonder who was taller. You were him. How sexy was sexy was off the charts? Off the chart. Who do you think is sexier? I think Ted.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Wow. Yeah, easy. Sexier than a sexy vet with a snake. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Although, some of his vibes. He looks like Henry Cavill, but Superman, but you look like David Corn Sweat Superman.
Starting point is 01:06:00 That's how I. That's how I contextualize it. Dude, you can't even, like, that is too much of a compliment to be comparing to this guy as Oscar. You gotta stop. You're really high-drawn. Every time we talked about Superman, right? Every time we talked about Superman, we talked about you.
Starting point is 01:06:12 I have gotten that for a lot of my life, though. Because you're tall or handsome or just the glasses. Yeah, and I used to have even more of like kind of like a flowy over kind of like hair thing going on. I see it. Where it was kind of like a Clark Kent kind of scenario. Didn't you, weren't you Clark Kent for? I was. Well, I was Lex Luther.
Starting point is 01:06:31 My boyfriend was Superman. Oh, I love that he thought you were the Superman. I do look like each other a little bit. He has a very handsome boyfriend. Six-pack. What were you following? I was, I was Popeye. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah. Were you a group costume, Puppel's costume? Was it Halloween? Well, my girlfriend, she dressed up as Betty Boop because we just thought that that was like a more fun. You know, it was just a better one to be. But then when we would go to a Halloween party, it was like, everyone was like,
Starting point is 01:07:00 They'd be like, Popeye, olive oil. That makes sense. You're right. You're so right. You're so right. And then the other one that we were going to do was that we didn't end up, just like the timing of like, I think she had to be at another party and I had to be somewhere else. But we were going to do the fan of the opera.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Oh, wow. And we had the costume and everything. So she was going to be. What happened? Christine Dye. I think that we, like, she had a, in her area that she lives and she had a party to go to because she lives further away and then I had one to go to as well
Starting point is 01:07:33 and then I was like flying out somewhere the next day and it was just didn't work out but we got all the costumes we'll do it next year so you'll definitely know whenever though like you don't need to do it on Halloween because right now they just kicked off
Starting point is 01:07:42 the US tour of Phantom after like 20 years yeah so it's like you know what's this is bad you haven't seen Phantom the opera that's crazy yeah well you have you must have
Starting point is 01:07:56 okay because I was like why would you do Phantom the Opera if you've never seen it. Because I was told I'd look damn good doing it. That's true. The Phantom is an iconic, iconic role with the... That's so funny. We have a Phantom cosplay coming up for something special.
Starting point is 01:08:10 That did seem like something that you would like. It's actually... Yeah, it's so weird because we're making the costumes, the outfits now, and it's going to be coming out in three weeks, so it's going to seem like we copied it. But, no, we had this thought of the head of dance. I don't think at all. This, if anything, us doing it would have been copying.
Starting point is 01:08:24 That is so in line. Well, that's so in line with something that you would do. As like, yeah, and just like, well, okay, we've been talking about the random shit I've been doing this year, but can we talk about a little Miss Broadway over here sitting across from me? That's right, since I have last seen you because we talked about loving musical theater. Yeah, and I feel like, I don't know, you know, like, that's pretty incredible. Thanks. What was that about? I didn't see too much about it, but I was seeing it through, like, your socials and stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Yeah. Like, how many shows did you do? I did 28 shows in three weeks, so I did eight shows a week. That's awesome. Yeah, and it was so much fun. I had the best time. Dude, so what was the, okay, so you probably talked about this a bunch on the podcast. No, we actually didn't, because we're going to get time off, and yeah, we never, we never really talked about it.
Starting point is 01:09:13 So you haven't talked about it since? Nope. You've done it? Not really. Well, then let's talk about it. I mean, this is a perfect opportunity to talk about it. Oh, thanks for asking. Of course, this is so interesting.
Starting point is 01:09:23 So what was like, okay, so what was, because I was wonder about, because it's like, it's more so than, like, because I did. theater in high school but it was like Acapella Acapella in high school in college yes it's true We had our duet Our Legu Blonde duet last No you didn't remember
Starting point is 01:09:37 Legubleau What did we doette? We duet at something It doesn't seem more or something I think that we tried a bunch We tried a bunch of things And it failed Yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:09:45 But you know two It's like two weekends in a row And it's like you know Friday Saturday And then a Sunday matinee And then you're like Man no yeah I'm in the
Starting point is 01:09:57 Like you kind of feel like You're like, yeah, this is what the business is like. You're, like, showing up, you're clocking in, coming into the, doing, getting your makeup done, caking it on and stuff. Yeah. And, like, so I wonder, like, 28 shows in three weeks. So that's one every day, every night. We did two on Wednesdays, two on Saturdays, one every night, and then Monday was off. So we did eight shows a week, so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Whoa. So every day, yes, but then there was two shows on Wednesday, two shows on Saturday. And then no Mondays. Yeah. Okay. It was hardcore. That is crazy. So how did you feel when you did the last one?
Starting point is 01:10:32 Like were you like totally just, do you go to sleep for 100 years? No, I was, no, no, I started Trishmas my tour because I'm on tour right now. I started that. We go to Vancouver on Sunday. I started Trishmas five days later. And it was Thanksgiving week, so I had like four days plus Thanksgiving day to like get my show. I was. Where do you get your energy from?
Starting point is 01:10:48 Yep. I don't know. Yeah, she's filming a show, a big show. A big TV show right now. You've been doing like all of this for so long. Like, how do you, like, because, like, I've, in particular, like, I've been feeling just, like, totally, like, just like, after I did that music video and I was, like, editing and stuff like that and just like, once I got into December, I just like, I mean, I guess everyone does that, but I like, I, like, I feel just so burnt out right now. How do you, like, pull yourself out of being, do you ever get burnt out? No, no, because I'll tell you why, because I feel like this is like my, like, my second act, right?
Starting point is 01:11:18 Because it's like, I, for so long I wanted to do this. I just signed with an agency, like, last year, probably around the time we met, I signed with CIA and I never met with an agent or manager. and then after that they started like just booking me for I got all these like jobs and I never got that but my whole life from 18 to like 36 I wanted to do this and so for 18 years I got nothing so then all of a sudden it's like this is my moment and of course I have like Moses for the kids and that makes like perfect sense yeah so then even after you were here Elvis we were going to be done with because we're like oh Elvis is our final one whether it's a boy or girl because we only had two baby names and then Aquaman was a surprise but it was like so much was happening that I really wasn't ready for like a third kid and then we had the third kid but I did get my tubes removed at that third child so there won't be no more no more kids. We love Aquaman, blessing. But he came with us. He came with us to New York. Everyone came with us to New York. And yeah, I just, but I love it. Broadway, I love. Like, I did the eight shows a week and it, like, wasn't enough. Granted, I, like, I wasn't on stage as long, obviously as, like, everyone else. Like, some of those people are just, like, insane. They're, like, belting out every night. Moses came to every single show. He came to all 28 shows.
Starting point is 01:12:14 And it just... As he should. As he should, right? He would put the kids to sleep, and then we, you know, we had my mom there, too, so he, like, run to the theater and, like, watch. But it was... No, I miss it. I want to go back. Have you seen, you're a theater person, but you don't watch theater, right? Unfortunately. Well, I mean, if I lived in New York, I'd probably go to Broadway a bunch. Like, one of my best friends, Katie, she, like, she does the thing where she lives in Brooklyn. So she'll do a thing where she'll get, like, the special ticket thing where you can get them for cheap.
Starting point is 01:12:40 You can get them for cheap or something. So she's gone up. She's got, like, she saves all her playbills. So she's got, like, like, 45 playbills from different stuff. Have you seen any shows with her? No, I haven't. I haven't, I think, man, I haven't seen a Broadway. Broadway show in so long. I haven't like, yeah, probably, honestly, I feel like the last
Starting point is 01:13:01 time I saw a Broadway show was like when I was like a kid. Oh. Oh, no, no, no. I'm lying. I saw the Book of Mormon. Recently? Like 10 years ago. Did you like it? I loved it. I thought it was great. It was, it was. That shows a little crazy. Yeah. We love. I thought it was funny. I mean, yeah, but I there's, you know what's what I really want to see? And I think that this is going this is going to make you very happy is that I've always been very interested in seeing the Beetlejuice musical but I think that that's not is it back on Broadway are you being silly no I'm yeah I am oh okay I was in that it's there till January 3rd and then it's gone forever from Broadway yeah well now I'm screwed then well I would have I would have
Starting point is 01:13:42 invited you I know but I was wondering like who specifically did you play in it because I literally I had no very little information about this about Beatlejuice or Beetlejuice on Broadway. Like, your part? Oh, my part. Yes, it was a character that is mentioned in the movie but not seen.
Starting point is 01:13:55 She's in the dinner party during the Deo scene. So when everyone gets possessed, she's possessed, her husband is going to go, like, look at this house that Lydia's dad is trying to, like, sell, and he's like, I'm not going to buy this,
Starting point is 01:14:04 whatever. But then they realize it's haunted because we get possessed. Right. And then he's like, I'm going to buy this house. And then that's when Beetlejuice, she says his name three times during my scene.
Starting point is 01:14:12 She summons him because she's like, this isn't working. So she summons Beetlejuice, and he pretty much scares everybody out of the house. So I'm like on stage screaming and running and I did have a little solo and I had a couple lines and it was great. Yeah, it was fun.
Starting point is 01:14:25 I had so much. I want to go back though. I love, I want to see. There's a show called Oh, Mary. Have you heard of this? Okay. So I've seen some stuff about that recently because. Coles, Cola, Cole, Cole.
Starting point is 01:14:35 So fine. So good. They're doing the Miss Piggy movie right now. They're writing. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. And I think currently as Jane Krakowski, Jank Sponssoon is about to go back on as Mary. That's like my dream role.
Starting point is 01:14:47 There's also someone who plays the teacher. So, Jinks, they were in, were they in Doctor Who? Yes, yes, yes. I think that's the one time I've seen, that's the way I know of Jinks Munson. Yeah, yeah, that's so funny that you watch Doctor Who. Well, it makes sense, actually. That makes sense. I mean, I haven't been caught up too much with the recent stuff, but like I, man, in college, I think I was, I got into it for the first time and I, like, binged it all.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I was watching the guy out of Doctor Who. And why do you like Dr. Hill? Interesting. You love Dr. Hood, and I don't get it. Yeah, yeah. Like there's cool it I want to get it no I want to get it I'm like what do we love but I feel like I feel like I'm walking in enemy territory right now I'm open to it okay okay I well here's the thing I think I'm just like a sci-fi person I just like sci-fi and even though it is a little goofy it's like sometimes it just has its moments where it's like what or it's like there's just like there's like just genuine like randomly like doctor who will just be like good horror all of a sudden or or it's like there's like just genuine like randomly like doctor who will just be like good horror all of a sudden or or. Or just like, there's just, I don't know, it's just a very creative show. And it's, it's campy, but it's like charming and you get really invested in the characters.
Starting point is 01:15:56 How much of it have you watched? I mean, I'm sure he's gotten you to watch. She refuses. No, do I want to? Huh? The girl from Bridgeton. The girl from Bridgeton. Has she been in it?
Starting point is 01:16:07 Nicola Cockland, has she been in it? Yeah. She was shooting it. Do you know her at all? Little blonde Irish girl. I'm not too familiar with Bridgeton. Well, I think she was in Doctor Who, but I'm not really sure. Well, I want.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Is she in, like, the new one? the new one? Oh, I thought she was a big part. No, I don't know. I like anything with a fandom. So I have Doctor Who merch. I have the little foam box sweater. Like I like it.
Starting point is 01:16:29 With a phantom? Like any sort of, or like Phantom of the opera? The fandom. Oh. Yes. I thought you said like, I just love phantoms. If a phantom is mentioned in a show, I'm there. Phandoms.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I love like anything that has like a big following, like if it's a pop culture phenomenon. And so I like the idea of Dr. Who. Yeah. But I haven't seen any of it. Maybe I should. I would love to be in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:52 But wait, we're getting, we're getting far away from the Beetlejuice stuff here. Okay. Okay. So, I need to know about the whole timeline here. So when did you first, how did this first come about? Well, I'm a big Beatleger's fan. I probably have seen it. I've done music videos.
Starting point is 01:17:08 We talked about it. So, you know how I spent, like, a lot of money on music music. Yeah. Which I've always said I've gone broke for. I was like in debt, like, all the stuff like that. So I probably spent like a couple hundred thousand on each of these music videos from Beatlejuice. Right. So I thought in 2019.
Starting point is 01:17:18 was obsessed did these music videos and then literally this year when I was they announced that Beetleju's coming back to Broadway
Starting point is 01:17:25 for a third time and I got a call I posted about it I was like ooh I would love to see this and then my agent's like do you I think I said I would love to be a part of it
Starting point is 01:17:35 and then my agent's like do want to audition for Beatles and the musical and I was kind of like ooh I would love to but I'm like not a trained singer I'm not a Broadway singer
Starting point is 01:17:42 if you see in the show like they're so amazing and I was like ooh I don't know but my part had minimal singing and had like literally one line of singing
Starting point is 01:17:48 So I was like, oh, okay, I audition. I thought I, like, I thought I was really bad at the audition. I auditioned when I was, like, eight months pregnant. I thought I was horrible because I was nervous. I was so nervous and everyone from New York was on the Zoom call. And I was just like, oh, gosh. How many people were in the Zoom call? Like eight, which usually do a self-tape and no one's in the room, you know?
Starting point is 01:18:05 Right, yeah. So I was like, and they're all there and you're just like, oh, like, you know, this is my new year of acting. I haven't really acted before this year. So I was like, ooh, I was still, like, not very confident in my acting. I'm very confident now after that. But I was not confident. And then, you know, New York people, they're so blunt. They're like, all right, thanks.
Starting point is 01:18:20 And then give me, like, no feedback. Like, they do not tell you if you, like, oh, crushed it everything. My agents always make crushed it wonderful. And then, like, I hear no feedback. And then literally, yeah, the show came back October 8th. And I was, they called me back and was like, they want to offer you the role. And it was like September. So you did you do any, like, so you did a callback?
Starting point is 01:18:38 No, they just booked me straight from that audition. Really? Yeah. Wow, that's kind of. So you must have been spending like a, like, so how long did you say it was between I mean, you auditioning and finding out? It was probably three months. Three months, really?
Starting point is 01:18:52 Oh, man. So probably like a month or two in, you're probably like, yeah, that's probably never going to happen. Yeah, for sure. It was. So that must have been such a wonderful surprise then. Yeah, because because we were planning the tour for Trishmas and if I knew I would have done Beetle juice, I probably would have waited because it's a lot of asked too for
Starting point is 01:19:06 fans to like buy tickets to like Broadway and come to Trish. Like, you know, it's just like a lot. So I was like, oh, I probably wouldn't have done them back to back. But here we are and we did it. And I have my last show on Sunday. this most recent Sunday This upcoming one Or 20 seconds on Monday
Starting point is 01:19:21 Oh okay It's my last one Do you tour? You do you do stand up I've been sure man I talked about wanting to do it And then I That was that's
Starting point is 01:19:29 Something that I'm in trouble For coming on church right now Is that I haven't really done it too much since We really? Yeah no I need it That's my goal for this coming year Is like literally like drop everything And just like just try to do it as much as I can
Starting point is 01:19:41 Locally or you would do it like in other cities I would just do it like locally like Just to get good at it and then and then maybe just try to actually advertise, like, a show somewhere at, like, the end of, like, next year. That's the deadline I'm giving myself. That's good. And you would do, like, because you tour doing, like, the rainforest cafes, you tour doing this, you know? Yeah, I mean, that is something that I've always been really interested in because I did, like, I'm sure that you can agree that, like, this sort of performance that's happening right here is, or, like, making a video or something like that is not the same thing as, like, performing in front of, like, an actual tangible audience.
Starting point is 01:20:13 You know, there's, like, a, like, a give and take. there that's like real and uh and so that's something that i think i've always missed um is performing in that regard and so the idea of like doing a tour or something like that is really exciting to me and something i feel like would kind of like it would if i didn't i would regret it forever you know yeah and if you have that feeling it always kind of eats away at you then it's like that's probably a pretty good indicator that like you need to do something about it and this is like the moment i feel like four you do it because so many people tour and like a lot of content creators tour and it's like not like a like a talent you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:20:50 like it's you know mean greets whatever that's why I don't want to just like do it to do it because the like because me on my agency is like hey we got like you know you could you want to do live show stuff hey we've got someone in our live department who's going to talk to and I'm like I don't have anything right now like so like but you do is what I was arguing I was like you have stand up most people kind of do it just like a podcast life which is like totally fine but that's hard to do sometimes right well I'm saying that I need to get good, though, first. I think you're very good.
Starting point is 01:21:18 You are giving stand-up. Last time, too, I was like, let's give me stand-up. And I love it. That's why we love you on here. And you're not the problematic stand-up. You're like, you know, a good one. Oh, well, I'm going to get so racist. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Because that's how the industry works. I have to. I have to. I have to, and I'm going to go to Saudi Arabia. Oh, my God. I think you're fine here in the U.S. I think you don't have to do that at all. I feel like that.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I'm going to go on a tour of Saudi Arabia, Russia. No, that's going to be great. That's wild. Any of the countries you want to mention that you want to go to? Nope. Yeah, okay. It's like, damn. Would you do theater again?
Starting point is 01:21:57 Yeah, well, I actually, so when you were talking about the self-tape thing, I did actually have an opportunity to send in a self-tape this year, so I did that. Wait, okay, can you say what's for a note? You don't know if you got it. Did you get it? Oh, I know I definitely didn't get it because then I saw the variety post of like about who they cast it. Wait, can you say or no? Can we bleep it?
Starting point is 01:22:15 I need to know. Yeah, we can bleep it because I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about. It's, it's, which is why I kind of was, like, feeling because of, with adults, it was like they had content creator actors kind of who are very good at acting. Like, but I think it was like, there's a, there's an asset, like a facet of that now. I think in acting where they want people with followings to help with, like, to be on pilots so they can promote those pilots. Like, see the audience built in.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Yeah, like I have friends who are actors that have told. me that like it's like a thing that like following followers is a thing for being an actor now which is like something you wouldn't really expect but I guess also makes sense and it's kind of a bummer too yeah but then you get like an Addison Ray who's like good too because I think people like crept on her when she first came out yeah no and she like she was like true to it and then she's like she's doing good but people like hated at the beginning like oh my god how could you give her a role and you're like oh she kind of ate do you watch Thanksgiving what the horror film oh I think you're like a horror person are you not into horror films
Starting point is 01:23:14 It came out last year, Eli Roth. I have not watched Thanksgiving, no. She was in it. She was one of the, did you die in it? I don't know. I think she, no. I don't remember. I don't know, but she was pretty good in it.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I saw clips. I haven't seen the whole thing. But you would. Do acting. Yeah, I would. I would do it because I feel like I did it a bunch. I used to do it a bunch. I used to do it a bunch.
Starting point is 01:23:37 And so, yeah, I think I would. I think it's tough, though, because it's like, I don't really have the time to, like, give to that one as well because I've got the YouTube and then I've got the comedy stuff I want to do and then I've got the filmmaking stuff I want to do as well it's like can I really fit in another pillar of career stuff becomes the have you ever heard of that like fig tree thing no come on come on guys
Starting point is 01:24:01 the fig tree thing everybody knows about the fig tree thing the gravity if it falls no it's like a quote it's it's a quote about like wanting to do different things with your life is like kind of like a fig tree a fig tree and each path you could take your life is a different fig and they've all fallen onto the ground or whatever but you're taking so long to decide which one you want that they all rot oh yeah so you're not picking any you're just a rotting fig yeah well i'm trying not to be oh i don't think i'm there yet i'm not
Starting point is 01:24:36 rotting yet yeah you're 27 you still yeah yeah but wait i have more questions though about your Oh, my God. I love it. I have more questions because I feel like the world has questions. I have questions. Everyone's got to know this. Now I'm interviewing you. I'm so nice.
Starting point is 01:24:53 So, okay, so you, it took three months. Then you found out, where were you when you found out? We had just finished the podcast, actually. We were driving to go get, we love a nachos at Badest Street Tacos. We always get Nacho Grande after filming the podcast. Oh, nice. And we were just, we literally were just, um, I got. I got all my text messages because I never looked at my phone during a podcast.
Starting point is 01:25:13 It was like a three and an hour podcast. I had all these like missed text phone calls from agents and it says CAA and theater department. Oh, yeah, just a bunch of missed calls. Oh. And then they're like my main agent texting me, Lydia, shout out, Lydia. She's like, oh, please call us back, call us back. And I was like, okay, it's probably a good thing because it's like they never have me call them. It's not like a family member.
Starting point is 01:25:29 You know, it's not an emergency. So I was like, oh, okay. But I did not think Beetlejuice because I was doing it done. I did probably like maybe 30 self-tapes this year. I did a lot of self-tapes. So I wasn't thinking Beetlejuice because that was so long ago. And I actually had just did one that I thought I nailed. And so I thought maybe that.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And then they called me and they're like, oh, they want to offer you the role of Beetlejuice. And I was like, oh. So I was crying. I was shaking. That's so awesome. Yeah. That was the coolest because Broadway was my biggest dream and probably the furthest one for me to achieve because of my lack of training. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:58 It just seems like such a club, you know, where it's like there just feels like such a specific route that you would need to like go. to like be able to do it like you'd have to be like I feel like to get into Broadway usually you have to be like like this crazy dancer that's like and then you end up in like the dancing zone of Broadway or something or like well Charlie DeMillo she was in she was in something it was Angelia yeah yeah and so she was doing that's cool for her too because I feel like it I got the vibe that she never really was super interested in like certain aspects of the content creator thing but like it was very clear that she was a dancer yeah she was great
Starting point is 01:26:36 in it oh my god she was like so good i didn't get to see her in person but like that was a huge deal for her like that's what i thought when she was in i was like that's a huge deal yeah you know and so um yeah it was cool to see her very few influencers have done it i think who was that guy and mean girls oh Cameron Dallas is that his name oh um yes Cameron Dallas notoriously bad so i was worried yeah i think people thought he was well you you like well here's the thing though i don't think that i wouldn't have been worried that you were going to do a bad job though because I feel like you love Broadway so much that you have such a respect for it yes so it's like you're gonna you're not gonna like half that no but I just didn't I knew I knew I wasn't
Starting point is 01:27:16 up to the caliber of like if I didn't have a following I wouldn't have gotten casted so that gave me a little insecurity but they did put me like with a really good like the director and the choir like they put me with a good like acting people that helped me do really good on it yeah what was like the rehearsal process um we went there a week prior and I was just like yeah all day all night I went to like just a week yeah But, again, I was a smaller part in the show. Like, I think if I did the full show, it would be, like, a lot more. But I was, like, a smaller part.
Starting point is 01:27:40 But they, yeah, they rehearsed it so much where I remember telling Moses, like, on the fourth day, I was like, I think I got it. But they kept rehearsing. And I was like, you know what, I'll just go from what they say because they know more than me. But by the time opening night came, I was like, I can do this in my sleeve. You know, it was so fun and so easy. And, again, the talent, there's, like, people doing, like, way more. But for me, it was just like, oh, I felt like that was my calling in life.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Who was, is what I meant to be? Who was playing the Beetlejuice in that one? His name's Justin Colette. He did, he was Dewey in the School of Rock, Broadway musical. Oh, cool. He was great. He was wonderful. He had my podcast, but he actually, like, injured himself, like, halfway through my run.
Starting point is 01:28:12 So, like, the second half of my run was all swings for Beetlejuice, which was just like, people who, like, don't play Beetlejuice, like, for, like, maybe a year. And then they just jump into the role that night and play Beetlejuice, which is, like, insane to me. It was so cool to watch. I really. Do those people, like, work on different shows in the meantime or something? No.
Starting point is 01:28:29 They sit there every night and just watch. the screens. Oh my God. Yeah. And they can play any part, mind you. Do they – they – surely they get paid? Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:38 I don't know. I just – I feel like it's such a – it's just a cut-throat world, Trish. It's a cut – they're like, we're going to do this for the fun of it. I would have. I mean, for an opportunity, like I feel like there's an angle in which that could be a thing, but I don't know. And I will say for the record, I think people are also – like, most people are very excited for me. I think the little percentage of people that were, like, annoyed, they thought I was getting paid like all this money in Broadway actors notorious so you don't get paid a lot of
Starting point is 01:29:03 money. I, I promised you I got paid whatever one else was. There was no bonus for me. Sure, yeah. And if anything, because I brought my whole family and the way we say, like we ended up paying money to me on Broadway, which I would do all over again. You know what I mean? Right, yeah. Just clear it up. I wasn't getting like Muku bucks for this, but it wasn't about that. I would have done it for free and I somewhat did because I just paid my own way. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I know exactly what you're talking about. Like with the music video I recently did, like, what always kind of ends up happening with the recent ones is that, like, the ideas that I have are, like, bigger than the actual budget a lot of the time can account for. So a lot of times I just end up putting, like, money from my own business into it so we can, so the thing can be at the quality that you want.
Starting point is 01:29:44 It's nothing, it's not like, it's nothing crazy. But like. But still putting your own money into something that's not even necessarily, it is your project, but you're not like the face of it. Like, that's pretty. Because it's like, you know, it's like an art. investment in yourself, you know? Oh, for sure. Which I imagine is probably how you felt.
Starting point is 01:29:59 It's like, that's an experience. Like, if they weren't, yeah, I don't think that it was a make or break, like the amount of money they would pay you, yeah. Oh, no, absolutely not. Like, literally, I was just like, I don't care. I don't even think they told me right away, and I, like, didn't care. I just saw the discourse of like, I can't believe they're, you know, she's playing a small part and probably getting more than all these people.
Starting point is 01:30:15 I was like, I promise you, I'm not. But I paid, even those music videos I did, I was paying hundreds of thousand dollars just to pretend that I was in Beetlejuice. so the fact that I got to be in Beetlejuice was cool. You've already spent the money. I was invested. I invested in myself. I was thinking when I was talking about O'Mary,
Starting point is 01:30:29 we could play the roles of Mary Todd and Abraham Lincoln. Do you know anything about the story? Vaguely. It's basically that it's like an incorrect retelling of Mary Todd's life where like Abraham Lincoln is dealing with the Civil War, I think, and she just wants to, what, be like a dancer? She wants to be a show girl. I don't know how incorrect this all is, but I think it's... I think that...
Starting point is 01:30:54 Spoilers are coming. Ooh. Spoilers are coming. Spoiler one. Get out now. Spoiler alert. Three, two, one. Spoiler warning.
Starting point is 01:31:05 And he has a spoiler. He's like, he has like a gay lover. Uh-huh. Who is John Wilkes Booth. Oh, no. Yeah. That's the guy. That's the guy that kills him.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Yeah. Well, I can, do you want me spoiler for you? Sure. Yeah. Spoiler alert. So, so. So she ends up finding this out, killing Lincoln, but frames it on John Wilkes Booth. Wow.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Then she does her big. And here we are today, talking about it on the Trish Live. Her big finale number comes, and she does her showgirl moment, and she has her moment at the end, and it's wonderful, and it's great. So we could play those roles, I think. That's fun. Yeah. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Would you do it? Yeah, I'd do it. Okay. Call us. I really, like I said, there is a smaller part, like of the teacher that I'm more likely to play, but I'm going to go big and be like, I want to be. married Todd. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Yeah. And you were giving A. Blinken. You got the height. Yeah, I just need the, I need the mutton chops. Does he have mudd and chops? Yeah, that's his thing, right? Yeah, he's got the mud and chops. And then, oh, this is an update.
Starting point is 01:32:02 I have a mustache now. I didn't have it on the last. You didn't have it on the last one. Did you not? Yeah, in the last, just Trish. Wow. I did not have a mustache. This is a new edition.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Why? Yeah, why do you have this? Because I was like, can I? Benson Boone inspired you or what? Yeah, no, all Benson, Benz and Bush. No, it was like. Like, I don't know. I was, I just, I think I've always wondered if I could.
Starting point is 01:32:25 I know I can't grow like a beard because I've got like patchy areas in here. But I've, I had noticed a few times when I had just like let my hair, my face hair grow out a little bit that I was like, there might be something there. There might be something there. And then I just tried it. And then I was like, okay. I think I might go back in a little, maybe like in 2020. Were you clean shaven? Is that when you were here last time?
Starting point is 01:32:45 Yeah. Yeah, the mustache is giving. millennial hipster Really? Yeah, but I like it Millennial hipster, really? I think that's why they called you millennial earlier on
Starting point is 01:32:56 when someone's like you millennial because it's giving millennial but I like it I feel like it doesn't have the twist though, that's millennial hipster right there Yeah, that's a whole different Yeah That's why I guess you lived in
Starting point is 01:33:06 A part of town that I said earlier because I was like oh you're giving Silver Lake vibes yeah Yeah Which you doesn't live there I'm not boxing you Yeah but I definitely don't want to have
Starting point is 01:33:15 The mustache just like I wouldn't go any bigger than this What I got like I wouldn't like grow it beyond the top lip or something. Yeah, that would be odd. I don't know anyone who does that Well, some people do well for instance my buddy Eddie he has he has the he has a he has a very powerful mustache. Okay. That's like I think it goes past his top lip but it like works. It's like it's like the true like fire chief mustache, you know? Okay. Yeah. And did you do this for a no shame November? I'm trying to figure out how I think I I think I, well, when did I come on the pocket? I think I did do this for No Shape November, and then I kept it on.
Starting point is 01:33:52 And just kept it going. But it could it get bigger? I just don't know how it could. I don't know how it could either. No, I think, I mean, it grows down, but it doesn't really go any other direction. I don't like kissing a person. Moses has a mustache she left. He has a mustache.
Starting point is 01:34:05 It's like, it's prickly ear. I like it when he shapes. I'm like, oh, just shade the mustache and keep the beard to save the stash. Yeah, there's definitely times where I'm like, man, should I, but I wonder if I I would have I changed forever because of the stash? Do you feel like you have? Do you feel more intelligent? Well, um, less intelligent?
Starting point is 01:34:22 Do I look, I was going to say, do I look more intelligent with the mother? No, I think it's giving, but it does give a little professor. Okay. Interesting. What's your opinion on this mustache era that I'm in? Because I'm sure that you've been keeping track and I'm sure that you've had, you've generated opinions. Yes, let's hear it.
Starting point is 01:34:39 I don't, I feel like the mustache is good for right now, but I can, yeah, I think you can go back. Yeah, yeah, because it is trendy right now. I feel like guys are... It is a little trendy right now, yeah. Yeah. And, you know, while it's trendy, it's like, why not try it out? Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:34:52 But I definitely don't think it's something that is, is tied to me. I don't think that I'm married to it. Yeah. Yeah, because if you shaved it, you would have like a Jonathan Bailey Jurassic Park going on right now. You know, you have the little glasses and the hair. Like, you know what I mean? But the mustache is giving me my step-down number two vibes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:11 He actually did have a mustache. Oh, okay. It's giving that. So it doesn't feel like, just from what I'm hearing from you right now, it doesn't feel like it's working for you. Well, I don't know. No. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:35:24 But that's okay. I don't like my mustache. I waxed it the other day. I was like, oh, I hate a mustache on myself too. Yeah, no, that's totally fair. And it grows thick. No. And, and, well, great.
Starting point is 01:35:32 I'm shaving them on. Wait, but what is your significant other thing? That's more important. She's only known me with the mustache. Oh, so you're like, I want this. Okay, keep it. If that's how she's known you and loves it, keep it. Or would you get shaved?
Starting point is 01:35:44 There was one time where you did half And I realized Oh okay so I was it was during I was doing this video on doing a morning routine thing The Ashton Hall morning routine where you know we got up at like 350 in the morning Yeah so I did that I did that viral That okay now that is viral That counts is viral yeah we all knew I did that for a week for a video
Starting point is 01:36:08 And one of the mornings I was just like I have this like shaver and it's supposed to like stop it from shaving too too much but like I didn't put it on right shaved the whole thing out and I sent her a photo of it and then she's like that's a nice photo of you I'm like didn't notice I'm like oh this was a little bit of like it's not like a crazy mustache or anything but it was like she didn't clock it at all it was very funny I think I'm someone who like
Starting point is 01:36:40 looks generally the same yes based on whatever, like... I didn't even know you had no mustache last time. I was like, this looks like you all the time. Well, yeah, no, like, I feel like I'm someone who also looks generally the same with my glasses. No. Wait, you look completely different.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Wait, that's crazy. That is crazy. You turned into like a Jonas brother or something. Yeah. It is very Superman. You know what? People always clocked Superman being like, how did she not notice him without his glasses?
Starting point is 01:37:05 But I don't recognize you without your glasses or you without your glasses. Yeah, you both look very different. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. That is actually so crazy. Really? Yeah. My glasses are so dirty right now.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Who's this? That is wild. That's crazy. That's crazy because, okay, I need to wait until I actually have a microphone. So different. That's crazy because I have always felt that I look pretty similar with my, really. Not at all. Huh.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Yeah, no, because you guys were like, who are you? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Wow. You look good. You look younger. Again, younger.
Starting point is 01:37:41 I think if you took a glass off in shade, it depends on how you want to love. I look like a baby child. Yeah, you're giving, without the glasses, you're also giving Finn, Hudson from Glee. I see that. Interesting. Yeah. I never watched Glee. What?
Starting point is 01:37:55 It seems like a you show. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Sounds like you in high school. Yeah. You should do a video on Glee. Glee. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:03 A deep dive. Yeah, what kind of videos are you doing these days? Yeah, I think you've only posted five this year, right? Oh. Not you saying you're too busy and only posting five videos this year. On the main. On the main. On the main.
Starting point is 01:38:12 On the main. Okay. Okay. I got clocked hard there. No, you're right. You're right. What did you make them on? What were the topics this year?
Starting point is 01:38:23 Well, I made one on Twitter, and then I made one. I made a couple of the last one I did. Yeah, on Maine. Oh, I grew a plant from soil that was made of fast food. So there's a device called loamy. There's a device that you can use food scraps and it'll turn it into kind of like a like a fertilizer dirt-esque stuff. And my buddy Tucker, he uses it for just for his genuine plant interest. And he just throws his food scraps in there because he's very environmentally, you know.
Starting point is 01:38:58 And I thought that and I was like, okay, well, what if you just put and just try to grow a plant out of it? It seems not fair to the plant. So maybe that was my. Maybe that was my consumerism flub this year. Now that we were talking about consumerism earlier. Maybe. I grew a plant. I, so I had like five or six different pots and they had different ratios of like real dirt, like real potting soil and like the fast food like yellow dirt.
Starting point is 01:39:30 And I think the most, the furthest I got it was I got like a little sprout to come out of a 20%. But like anything beyond that was like it was like mold. It was like, it was nasty. Well, I mean, but did you have hopes for it? Like, was your hypothesis this could help it? Like, what is your... My hypothesis was, could I... It was kind of more like when the guy grew the potatoes and the Martian, that was kind of like
Starting point is 01:39:55 the same energy of like, can I grow life in this inhospitable circumstance? That's crazy. Yeah. Okay. No, it was a little ridiculous. I don't mind it. I did a similar thing with my babies. I only ate fast food and they turned out fine.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Oh, okay. Opposite effect of the plants They thrived All three of them actually So how is So you know it's funny My co-host Tucker He is a new father as well
Starting point is 01:40:21 Oh when did he have the baby On September 30th Wow first Yeah How old? Your age? Yeah he's the same age as me He's like I'm like 10 days older than him Doesn't it feel so young to see people
Starting point is 01:40:32 Your age have babies Like even for me I'm like I'm too young to have a baby But like 27 it's like That's Tanna's age right She's 27 and it's like I can't even imagine Yeah. They're like, you're like babies.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Well, he's a, he's a pretty traditional leaning guy. He's, you know, he was a Marine, you know, he's just, I think that, that tracks for him. Okay. But I think in the content creator world specifically, I feel like if a content creator was having a baby around this age, it would be surprising. Because I just feel like people in entertainment have children later on average. Because you guys do everything you want to do. Yeah, you get all your career stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:07 What about you? Would you be having a baby right now? right in this moment. Yeah. I feel like that would stress me out if I, if I found out. You were so calm. You were like, my baby was like, ah, and you're like, it's okay. It's a baby.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Well, yeah, but it was a, it was a child, you know? It's like, she's going to get fussy every now and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's no problem. That's just like part of being a kid, you know? But you handle that well, because even when I wasn't a parent, I'm very much like, why is that, why is that person here, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:32 You did that great. So I think you are ready for a baby if you were to have one right. You ready? You ready? Yeah, I don't know I definitely do want to be a dad I think I would be a killer day You would be a great job
Starting point is 01:41:46 I feel like I give dad energy I feel like I think we talked about this last time Did we? Yeah, we totally talked about my ability To become a father Yeah, your goofy dad Your ability How do you know?
Starting point is 01:41:58 Like my... You tried it? Did we become a father? No, yeah, no, I guess I don't You're so fair I don't know People have sperm tests You know my, what is it, T count or something
Starting point is 01:42:06 Or sperm count or right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I haven't. I might be shooting blanks. You never know, but you'll see. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:14 We'll find out. We'll find out soon enough. Yeah. No, but so Tucker, he's a father now and I'm just, you know, the only effect this has had on me is that I've just like been, I've been, I've been, he's been away from the podcast, so I'm just been running. Has he? Well, yeah, because he's, we, they had to take like three months off, you know. You have paternity leave? I love that.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Well, I mean, yeah, he actually, he didn't get. approved for, because he has like a 9 to 5 other than the podcast. Oh, it's very nice, coded, yeah. And aren't you ever like, why are you doing that 9 to 5? Why don't you just do the podcast all the time? Or you encourage it. We love it. I don't know if the podcast necessarily makes enough money for him to just do it in that regard.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Oh, you're doing it for the love of it. Yeah, yeah. And so he also is interested in what he's doing for his 9 to 5 things. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, I mean, he's just hearing about the whole process of the birth. and like I don't know It's just weird
Starting point is 01:43:12 It's like my best friend Who I've known for last like 12 years or something And he's having a child And it's like And it's like It's so crazy too Because it's just like Like
Starting point is 01:43:24 His like his wife Was the like roommate Of like my ex-XX Girlfriend or something In college or something Wow And so like The pathway of like
Starting point is 01:43:37 How they ended up together and then like had a kid and stuff is like I don't know our lives are very intertwined in that way so it's just very interesting to see like their relationship develop and then they got married and then they have a kid I don't know it's just it's when it's it feels normal when it's so when it's everyone else in the world doing that stuff but when it's like someone's so close to you and like someone you grew up with and it's like this is like a big deal it's like I don't know it's just I don't know it's interesting it's crazy shocked like if Oscar or Tanner like had a baby I'd be like yeah What? Like, you're too young. Like, you're too, like, I don't know. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's like too close. Have you met the baby?
Starting point is 01:44:17 I have not, but I will be this Christmas season. Ooh. I will be meeting the baby for the first time. And I got him an outfit. From where? It's from this little boutique, little baby boutique. Oh. In Orange County.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Okay, I love that. Local business, small business? Mm-hmm. Love that. Mm-hmm. It's like a little, it's like a, it's a three to six month because they're going to be like three months in like right as the year's ending and so it'll be three to six month is like the tag like they put it three to six and it's like yes that's crazy yeah that is crazy that's that business
Starting point is 01:44:54 is bleeding people dry I bet no that's what you should talk about because that is so true talk about us being non over consumers like all of our babies including Aquaman was just like he was getting some of Malibu's clothes because we're like these clothes are so expensive they do go just in like toxic waste, you know what I mean? It's like, no, we're going to just have them. He's in a little princess outfit sometime. I mean, granted for photos and stuff, we don't. But, you know, babies don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:14 But yet you're buying, Janie and Jack will be selling the overalls for $65 for a zero to three month old. And by the way, they say zero to three months, the actual size for like a week. Then they're three to six months because they grow so freaking fast. Like they're just, it's such a scam. That's scam of it all. I must say that for your video.
Starting point is 01:45:28 I feel like people in general. Actually. I feel like people in general are pretty good about like passing around the baby clothes, though. At least, like, from what I've heard from Tucker and Emma is that, like, they've gotten so many different, like, sets of, like, old baby clothes from different families and stuff like that. Boy or girl. It's boy. We have lots. Our boy is only, like, probably a couple months older, so we can recycle. Well, they're all the way in Massachusetts. Well, we'll send it. Yeah. We have the means. Yeah. Honestly, I, yeah. Honestly, if you try. Like, they would definitely accept that. I think of a baptism or no? I don't know. No.
Starting point is 01:46:06 I don't know. I don't know if, well, because Emma was, she, maybe. I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know, I don't know to what degree they're involved in. Because she grew up pretty religious, but then she's less so now, but. We're not religious. We're just like spiritual and we love a little water ceremony, so we do the baptism, you know.
Starting point is 01:46:26 But yeah, we're not religious in that sense. So do you feel almost kind of pressure then if that's like your best friend to be like we should probably be having kids at the same time? It's definitely something that's crossed by mind where it's like, God. not going to have like same age like kids yeah because I don't like I don't think that in the like next couple years yeah well I don't know maybe in the next I have no idea I I've taken it as as it goes but it's a little bit of a bummer where it's like we're not lined up that way but there's nothing you can do about that really I know no but it is it does my brother is like that the idea is fun though of like having cousins that are the exact same age as you or
Starting point is 01:47:04 or equivalent cousins, you know. Yeah, that's the hard part because finding kid friends. Like our birthday parties is always like, I think Oscar's nephew came like, can you have a kid? Bring him over because we're just trying to find like any kids our kids age because we're the same way. Oliver, like his friends already had kids that are a little older and then me too, my age already had kids.
Starting point is 01:47:20 So it's just like it's a weird middle ground, but it's hard to find. Are there kids in the neighborhood at all? No, it's old people, which we love. They're quiet. Yeah. But maybe next time I see you. Yeah. I have two kids too.
Starting point is 01:47:35 I just managed to have two kids. It's possible. I mean, but I like it. I like that you. Any other thoughts on the state of the world of 2025? Are we wrap it up here? Your death,
Starting point is 01:47:48 prophecy. I guess not even a hoax, prophecy. Because that was a big thing. Oh, yeah. It scared me when I saw it the first time. Yeah, well, it was like a bit. It was a bit that happened where my, my buddy Schlapp, like,
Starting point is 01:48:03 in 2021 or something had done, we were doing this video where we were just making like ridiculous t-shirt designs just for a YouTube video. And the t-cert design that he made was, it just said, I am Ted Nivison and I will die
Starting point is 01:48:18 on October 23rd, 2025. This is like 2021. That's a crazy thing to put out to the universe. Oh yeah, no, it was meant to be ridiculous for sure. Oh my God. Guess you don't believe in manifesting. Yeah. Well, I mean, I had to in that moment.
Starting point is 01:48:33 I had to not believe in it. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Wow, okay. And then just as when 2025, 2025 started, it was like, all of a sudden I started getting comments where people were like, see your Ted. It's the year you're going to die. And I'm like, fuck I didn't think that this many people cared about that video.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Oh, my God. And then it got, it picked up more and more and more as it got to the date. And now after the date passed, I was like, I did a little post where I was like, I lived. but now everyone's like such a shame that they have to use AI to replace them now and like oh they went with a bit they kept going yeah no they're going with the bit a lot longer than is that is funny it's December now like were you a little nervous when it came around I think that there was a part of me that like as I was going to sleep on October 22nd yeah I was like I really hope that there isn't I'm that I'm not on like a show that this isn't a simulation
Starting point is 01:49:31 and that, like, this isn't going to happen. But then, you know, October 24th comes and I'm like... Made it. I did it. I'm going to live forever now. That's a good manifestation. Living forever? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Yeah, true. You sound like Beetlejuven did that. Would you live forever if you were Edward Collin? The whole being death thing. Oh, wait, what? How do you know that if you've never seen Beatleju's The Musical? Because I watch clips on YouTube of the songs. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:49:57 Well, yeah. That's so random. She performed it for a dog. Look that up on YouTube. I will. I performed the whole musical in 2020. Yeah. You know what's the one I specifically watched of the whole Being Dead thing?
Starting point is 01:50:08 Yeah. It's the Tony performance they did. Alex Brightman. Yeah, with that guy who was also in that show, Hasman Hotel. Oh, did you like that one? Yeah, I liked it. But I almost felt bad for liking it. Wait, why?
Starting point is 01:50:22 I thought that was like a hit. Well, yeah. Yeah, but then also, like, I feel like it has so many haters, too. Like, people also think that show. But then also, I'm not. not, I don't want to be cringing anymore. Or I don't want to feel bad for being cringing anymore. So yeah, I kind of like, I kind of like Hasman Hotel.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Wait, so you're just watching a Tony Award performance of Alex Brightman performing the whole being dead thing just randomly not knowing the show or Alex Brightman. Well, I mean, I've seen the movie. So you're like, let me just watch this clip of it? That's so random. Well, I mean, Broadway is like, it's, there's kind of a, what's it called? Like a, there's a little bit of a barrier to entry if you don't directly live in New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:59 And, like, and they're, the tickets are like, you know, $500 or something like that, right? I think they're like not that much now. I think like $100. A hundred bucks? Yeah, because he bought a ticket every night and I think they were like $100, right, Moses? Really? Yeah. Like 50 to like $180.
Starting point is 01:51:14 They're making you pay every night? Every night. We don't get tickets. We didn't get any free tickets. Damn. Yeah. What the fuck? That's the craziest part.
Starting point is 01:51:23 We were paying every night. Man. Opening night, we got like 10 tickets, I think. And then after that, they're like, we can reserve tickets, but we have to pay for it. Oh, okay. And we did. That's nice that you can reserve them though. We had two every day now.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Okay. So 100 bucks is that, that's not that bad. Yeah, it's getting better. I mean, it's still crazy in this, in this economy, as we know, like, yes, a hundred bucks is a lot. Yeah. So I didn't take it for granted. But you sounded like Beatles, when you did that. That's why I was like, oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:51:46 But it's crazy. You know that song because that's so niche and very specific. Yeah. Oh, you should have come. Honestly, now I'm like kicking myself. Well, so wait, when's your next show? Vancouver on Monday. You want to come?
Starting point is 01:51:59 Vancouver. Oh, it's traveling. It's a traveling band. Was it in, but it was in New York for Pia and then you went on. Oh, Beatles, Jews, I did in Newark. Oh. And then I came back and did my own tour. Gotcha, gotcha.
Starting point is 01:52:11 I thought you were. Oh, I see. Oscar was there. He did a performance. Yeah, I performed gnarly. You know that song? Narlie? Yeah, I don't think I do.
Starting point is 01:52:20 What? I knew it. I knew it. You don't know, Cat's Eye? See, I knew it. This is the band. This is the girl group? Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Okay, yeah. Well, they had the out of the touch, touch, touch, yes, okay, that's pretty good. You don't know. Yeah. But I don't know this song, this specific song. It's the new one. No, I don't know that.
Starting point is 01:52:40 You don't know eat zucchini? I don't know eat zucchini. I did ask him, I'm like, you know that Ethan Slater Spongebob dance? Because I did want him to do it. Wouldn't he be so good at it? Do you know it? I've seen a lot of TikToks of girls making their boyfriends do it. Oh my God, you need to do it.
Starting point is 01:52:55 I wanted that to be my first TikTok was I told him to be on Judge Trish. Can we can be on just. to each other and do it. Okay. Because I don't want to do it by myself. Well, I wouldn't do it. I would just sit there. I can't just be doing this dance and you being like, like filming me doing it.
Starting point is 01:53:08 That's cute, though. That's kind of cute. I love it. Do you know the words? Set sail? Set sail? Set sail. If he was trying.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Yeah. Yeah. As if this day couldn't get any better, but it keeps on trying. There you go. Have you seen the SpongeBob musical? It was where Beetlejuice is at the Pals Theater. It was in the same stage. to even later performed that as, I did not see it.
Starting point is 01:53:31 I have seen clubs, but I did not see it. I've always wondered how, because I haven't seen it either, as you guys know this at this point, I haven't seen it, but I always wondered how they made that work. That's another one, that's another one where I just know the songs from, but I haven't, I mean, it's the same thing, I guess I saw the Disney Plus version of it, but it was kind of like the same thing with Hamilton for a while.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Right. You know, where I learned all the songs at Hamilton, but never saw it until the, like, the, like, you know? That is interesting, because I usually don't know the music unless I've seen the show, and then I get obsessed with it, so it's interesting. I feel like Hamilton's one of those shows, though, where you can kind of experience most of the show.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Like, is there, is it? There's no dialogue, yeah, I was going to see. Yeah, I feel like it's all singing, so you kind of, you get the whole thing. You get the whole story. Yes, yes, very Joseph, too. Joseph means a time of her dreamco is all singing. Joseph from the Golden Technicolor Dreamco.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Do you know it? I'm aware of it. I'm aware of it. Joe, Joe, Joseph, you'll make it the thing, right? Yeah, hang on now, Joseph, you'll make it some. How do you know that song? I think that's a real early memory. I think that's a real early memory.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Maybe we saw it at some point when I was a kid? With Don't know. I just remember my mom or my dad at random points if they get prompt because they'll have like parents sometimes have like prompts that'll send them done like a catchphrase. Do you guys not have this? No. Or they'll just say, I don't know. Well, whatever. Sometimes my mom will just break into Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Really? I like your mom. Just like that beginning. That's glad. Me too. That's my favorite song. I love Go Go Go Joseph. It's my favorite musical ball time.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Really? Love it. They're remaking it. John M. Chu is actually remaking it next year. What was it about? It was about Jesus having a rainbow coat. No, Joseph. Joseph having a rainbow coat.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Joseph was before Jesus. Before Moses. He was before. Yeah, Old Testament. Not familiar. The metal stuff. Yes. Matthew 18.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. What's it? What's it? Matthew something like 818 or something? 818. No, 618. I don't know. Basically, it's a crazy line from the Bible.
Starting point is 01:55:31 It's like, if anyone causes these little ones to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung over their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Crazy. Who wrote that, Mark? I don't know who wrote it, but it's like, all I got to say is like bars, right? That was good. You had it perfectly memorized.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Said it to me like 100,000 times. He keeps quoting it because it's like a crazy line. Did you say chat? Schlatte. Oh, if it says chat keeps selling me, I'm like, that's crazy. Yeah, no, that one, because it's like, I think it's just like if someone causes like the people believe me to like literally like make a mistake or like their faith waivers, then you should put a giant two pound millstone over their neck and drown them. That's why we shouldn't listen to the Bible. I love spirituality.
Starting point is 01:56:21 I love Jesus. Yeah. But the Bible was wrenched by people. That just amazing. I think. Yeah. I mean, like, what is it? Sodom and Gomorah.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Goliath and Daven. David and Gleath. Yeah. You would be good on that one, too, because you're so tall. I would be glad. Is this David right here? Ooh. Recreate it.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Biblical. Yes. I love a little biblical, but. We wanted to pitch a Just Trish network podcast with the two of us, so maybe that can be the theme. How many podcasts do you have now? Yeah. You have one, too.
Starting point is 01:56:53 I have one. I mean, if there's, if there's a podcast. I mean, if there's a podcast where I can just show up. Oh, we're good at that. You can make it happen. I love a podcast where I can just show up. You are great at it. Do you have the time, though?
Starting point is 01:57:05 Because you just said you don't have time. Would you have time? Oh, you also don't have time. Both of you would have no time to do it together because Oscar's busy 24-7. It seems like you're pretty busy these days. But how would you coordinate? Yeah, I'm down. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:57:17 If they build it, they'll come. I'll build a set. It sounds interesting. See who shows up. That seems like it would be fun. There's room over there. Yeah, there is. I'm really good at building sets.
Starting point is 01:57:25 What would it be called? What would it be called? David Nicolette? That'd be crazy. That's a good one. Hmm. What would this be called? Tall and small.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Tall and small. That's pretty good. Ted and Oscar's excellent adventure. Oh, that's really good. Thanks. That's yours. Man, I'm bad at names. I'm bad at like thinking of like good, catchy names.
Starting point is 01:57:49 What's yours called? What's your podcast called? Oh, take it easy. Okay. I stole that, though. Oh, crazy. No, like, as in, like, the Discord, like, server that, like, Tucker and, like, we all just, like, game in. It's just called, like, the Take It Easy Lounge.
Starting point is 01:58:06 And I was like, we should just use Take It Easy as, like, that's a good, because we would kind of just, like, that was, like, a phrase. Like, we would kind of say, be like, hey, take it easy. That's a great one. And people love it. They know what it means. It's not confusing. Wasn't there, like, a podcast you had that have, like, a silly name? Chuckle sandwich.
Starting point is 01:58:21 What happened to that? It's over. Oh, that, yeah, that ended. That, oh, yeah, that ended this, oh, my God, this year in January. Why? Because Schlad was done. He didn't want to do it anymore. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:58:32 And I think we had done the podcast for like four years. Oh, that's the mark, the four year age, because Tanna and canceled is four years, too, and they ended it. So it must be that time when people are like, it's done. Yeah. Which I get it. I think that, like, doing something every week for four years, and it's like, I don't know, it's just like, you know, you just kind of want to move on. And I think that that's fine.
Starting point is 01:58:52 And I think that we did some good stuff with that podcast. And we ended it really well. We ended it with like a three-hour, like, D&D episode that was like a one-off where we brought in, like, Charlie, who was like one of the members of the podcast. And he, because we had done several, are you familiar at all with D&D? Because I don't know. Because in my periphery, I'm seeing you. No. Maybe I am.
Starting point is 01:59:19 What is it? You're like D&D, Audrey Hepburn. I'll be honest, the only context I've played it is on those podcasts. But D&D is basically like you go on an adventure where you're making. Oh, like from strangers things. Oh, say the action. Yeah, you're like, D&D. You're right.
Starting point is 01:59:41 I should have. D&D was crazy. You're right. It does sound like like S&M or something. Yeah, homoerotic. D&D. No, yeah, we had done it a few times in the past where it would be like kind of a one-off for that episode. We kind of like make our characters and then we go on this like adventure and it's like, and it's fun.
Starting point is 02:00:01 And then for the final episode, we did that and it had a bunch of references to the whole podcast previously and we built this whole set for it. Oh, just for this one episode? Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like a build like this. It wasn't like build like this. It was like we had some props and we used a big table and we were in a studio to do it. You know, we had lighting, so. That's impressive, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:22 But this is, I mean, this is great. Thanks, we can build you one. Wow. We built it with no budget. It is really nice. Thank you. It is really nice. I thought of myself.
Starting point is 02:00:32 I was built it. Man, that'd be crazy if we started a pod. I know, because on Take It Easy, you've had no gay people. So I feel like you've really got to branch out into gay. Like on as guests or just like in general? I mean, to be fair, yeah, we haven't had too many guests on. Six. I went and counted. Oh, not one game of six.
Starting point is 02:00:51 On Chuggle, the gay people we had? Yeah, none. No, we had, we had gay people on chuckle. Name one. Austin. Name one gay person. Austin. Okay, well, yeah, that doesn't count.
Starting point is 02:01:03 He doesn't count? Well, he's everywhere. Are you, yeah, and he's like, he did rivalry. He's too straight passing. Are you seriously writing off a person who's in a marginalized community, Trisha Padas? Locking on Twitter. After saying, you know, me. After saying, I'll say, I'll go on the record.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Yeah, he's straight passing. Yeah, it's like he did rivalry. he's like almost two straight passing yeah really yeah so he doesn't count you need to get a gay gaga gay in there yeah he's gonna get he's gonna get he's gonna get yeah like christian is pretty gay but what would you say make someone uh like straight passing versus not austin is like as straight as like as straight as it comes for a gay person like he knows none of the gay like lingo christian does a lot of the the heavy lifting when it comes to gay heavy lifting yes like his boyfriend.
Starting point is 02:01:48 You know, being his boyfriend. Yeah, that's a big part of it. That's a big one. Oh, they're boyfriends. Yes. But the education about gay culture comes from Christian. Austin, I feel like, yeah, he's a little out of the loop. Like who threw the first brick?
Starting point is 02:02:01 Yeah. Well, sure. We love that. Yeah. So, Austin's why, what is it? Is Stonewall? Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:13 You know about it? Yeah, what happened about Stonewall? How many people died at Stonewall? Uh, maybe what, uh, let me think. It was so, um, I feel like I have a number that's like too high that feels too high, but it feels like, I feel like the number eight was involved somewhere. Wow. No one dies. Really?
Starting point is 02:02:35 Uh, then maybe, this is why you need to start collaborating again. No, no, no, you know what it is? I think, I think then, I think then the reason why I thought that someone did die was because I have heard the thing where people ask how many people died. And then it was none. So now I was overthinking it. What year did it happen? Oh, I don't know anything about years. Look up what year it happened.
Starting point is 02:02:58 I need to figure out if the eight was in there somewhere. I love that you just thought of eight. June 28th, 1969. Oh, the eight was in there. There is an eight in there, but I don't know if it really saves me. It's the same year we went to the moon, or did we? Good point. 1969?
Starting point is 02:03:18 Yes. Don't you remember even Stevens? We went to the moon in 1969. Not 1970, but a year sooner. We went to the moon in 1969. That's actually kind of crazy because if 1969 feels so early, but once you if it was 1970, it'd be like, that feels reasonable. Right.
Starting point is 02:03:34 1960 is like a crazy. Yeah, like that 1970, I feel like it's the first one where it's like, okay, that's not like too long ago. Right, right, right. But that's what I'm saying. I think it's like faked because it's easier to fake things back in the 60s than it would be today. But we have AI now.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Yeah, but that was like fuzzy TV. So you're like, is that the phone or is that a set in Hollywood? You know what I mean? Like that's what that's easier to fake. Now people can clock it a lot easier than when I was AI. Damn. You know, I don't, I was thinking this as I was driving over. I was like, oh, I should have brought, I should have showed up with like a whole dossier of like evidence
Starting point is 02:04:12 because I knew it was going to come up again. And like, I should have, I should have like come in and I was. I'd be like, well, in that case, here's NASA, like a NASA scientist. Yeah, I would love that. That would have been great. I don't know if that would convince you, though. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Not at all. Unless I go to the moon myself, would you go to space like Kate Perry and Gail King? I think that that feels a little early. No, you would not do it. Like, you wouldn't even do what they did, like go up for 12 minutes. I mean, not right now. Here's the thing. I want, like, real space.
Starting point is 02:04:46 Like, I want. us to have boots on the moon like there's houses there you know there's habitats there and people are doing science experiments up there and like there's a space port I want space ports that's what I want like airports but for space oh well they have to land somewhere yeah I want there like you want to colonize space that's crazy what you're getting out I mean yeah I want to colonize space clip it the garment At it right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:19 That's crazy. And then wanting to tour in Saudi Arabia and Russia. Oh, my God. I do want to go to a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia. You have no, oh, yeah, I'm like, you have no concern about ever being canceled. Well, I don't think that any of those were real. Wow. Until you see that $10 million amount.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, no. I mean, I would colonize the space if I got 100 million for it. Oh, 100 million. average 10 was the number. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Well, 10, okay, here's what I said. 10, let me clarify before, before they come from me. For the Saudi Arabian Riyadh Comedy Festival, for 10 million, I would say, I would yell and grit my teeth as I said no. Right. It was painful to turn down that life-changing, unbelievably life-changing amount of money. Oh, 10. Okay. A hundred million, I would need a day and then realize, uh, this is, it, it, it's just like, I don't know, it just doesn't, I just don't know if there's an amount where I wouldn't feel bad about it.
Starting point is 02:06:30 Yeah, no, no good thing comes from, you know, blood money. I never heard that term, but yeah, you know what I mean? Like it's, yeah, that's always feels a little icky. Yeah. Curse money. Yeah. And I guess there are some people out there that could argue that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but. But that part.
Starting point is 02:06:46 That part is so real. You know, but I feel like that is just, it's hard to spin that as being, as being ethical. So no to space either. Notice space. Well, space is interesting, though. Would you go to space? Yeah, I think so now. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:03 I think I was like scared of it, but I'm like, they probably know what they're doing. Yeah. Until they don't. Well, because I don't know. Isn't that the thing where it kind of doesn't count of space? Or it kind of does? Like, it's like, it's space on a technicality. Technicality, yeah, because it's like the upper, upper atmosphere where it counts
Starting point is 02:07:21 is space, but then it's like, like, you, if you stepped out, you wouldn't be able to breathe, but like, it's kind of like a plane almost. It lands like, you know? It's like just high enough to be considered space. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, maybe not. Actually, I take that back because there was a space shuttle.
Starting point is 02:07:38 God, we were in one city this weekend, and there was like a space shuttle that, like, everyone was like waving and then like it like like the it blew up what you're talking about the challenger explosion maybe in like the 80s or 90s yeah I think you're talking about the challenger explosion that's crazy yeah there was a school teacher on it too and she was got and like her whole class was watching it was horrible like they showed it on live TV and they showed them like walking in like waving and smiling how did that how did that happen like why did that happen that's crazy I don't know the specifics of why it happened but it was like what's up a tile on the ship was not a tie
Starting point is 02:08:11 aisle wasn't aligned. Oh, that's terrible. So something wasn't aligned. It's just the tiles where that's strong enough. Oh. Oh, my. Yeah. Well, it's like, it's like, if you're not sure,
Starting point is 02:08:21 100% sure about the alignment on your shit, don't put a school teacher on there. Yeah. Damn. Okay. Well, we can transition away from that. That's kind of bad. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:31 Sorry, I sort of bummed you up. But I just saw it out. Like, that's so scary. So I take it back. I don't want to do that. I don't want to risk. I don't like risking my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:39 I think it needs to become one of those things. But I guess it's tough. because there's certain niche things that are technically still safe statistically. Like you're, like would you go skydiving for instance? No. But then you hear the statistics about it,
Starting point is 02:08:55 it's actually safer to skydive than it is to just get in a car and drive somewhere. Yeah, but I need to get in a car. I don't need to skydive. Damn. Like, I have to be mobile. I've been getting clock this whole lot.
Starting point is 02:09:07 I feel smarter. I do feel smart. Are you smarter than Tenepicson? Yeah. You as a Bachelor of the Science. But I mean, like, but if you wanted to, you know, if you wanted to skydive, if you're worried about it, then it's like, well, you're more likely to die from a car crash than you're from a skydiving.
Starting point is 02:09:21 But look up to statistics of, like, do you die more of a heart attack or skydiving? I think I'm going to die at the heart attack while skydiving because I'd be so scared. And I'm sure those statistics are very high who dies of heart attacks, and that would probably be more. Yeah. So, therefore, I don't do that. I don't worry about the impact. It's me, my heart giving out because I'm terrified.
Starting point is 02:09:37 Because actually on roller coasters, too, people usually die from, like, their heart giving out rather than a crash of a roller coaster. Right. Oh, yeah, there was somebody who died recently at Universal. Yeah, allegedly. There was a, oh, really? They, like, take them off the property and then they're like technically didn't die there. So they're like, no, they were alive.
Starting point is 02:09:53 Oh, that's devious. Yeah. What was this? Disney does it too. This was, like, recently some dude's like, like, like, his legs, like broke, like on this. Was it Universal? Yeah, it was Universal, like, recently. It was like some guys, like, legs broke on the ride.
Starting point is 02:10:10 And then it's like, I don't know, it was like, what I was, I was hearing about, like, just from, like, seeing, like, a headline. But then I was like, that seems too horrible to learn more about, I'm going to leave it. I'm going to leave my information. I know about it at that. Yeah, I agree. It's pretty dark. But I guess, like you said, are you, that's why I don't want rides, to be honest. I actually do get, I do get weirdly.
Starting point is 02:10:30 I'm very, like, weirdly scared of a lot of things in life. Mm-hmm. What's the thing you're most scared of, but other than Australians? Australian is crazy. Last time you said that you're afraid of. Australia's. Oh, because you were about to go, oh, Bluey. We love Bluey now.
Starting point is 02:10:45 He's very popular in New York. Nothing. No, I'm scared of like the space, the ocean. Bluey is a girl. That's crazy. How do we know this? Well, you said last time that you thought it was misogynistic that it was blue because it's a boy, but Blue is a girl.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Work, I like it. I'm here for it. I don't know. I never see any pronouns anywhere. We went to the museum, and we saw nothing. But I love it. How do we know that? I think it's just, I think it's said.
Starting point is 02:11:16 Common knowledge, that's crazy. I think it's set in the show. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. I like blue and I'm there for it. But what is the thing that you're most afraid of? Like in a rational fear or like a rational fear?
Starting point is 02:11:27 Like which one? Like Australians are irrational fears. I mean, I feel like, I don't know. I mean, I guess depends on what your definition of irrational is. I would just go for the top one. What's the strongest fear? like truly and I'm not like being like crazy or funny or anything like that is like um like like IRL streaming like I don't want people to know exactly where I am that sounds like when
Starting point is 02:11:49 I see like not I'm not victim blame but when you see people like get like approach and stuff like that's that's what I don't want I don't like so I'm oh yeah even when I'm not I'm not a streamer clearly but like even when I'm in my car just filming I always think like what was it foosey got like swatted or something in his car eating like rotissory chicken and I do that quite often and I'm like what if they just like came up to me you know what I mean like that kind of stuff truly like scares me yeah i don't like it i don't know yeah no that's i mean that makes perfect sense like like it's definitely something i like when i'm out and about doing a video where i have to like drive some of my car i'm like when i'm like cutting in between moments i'm like how do i make
Starting point is 02:12:24 sure that the background isn't like outside the car isn't too like identifying of like the general because it's LA so it's like you're not going to be found me that easily but like you know i'm still like i don't want to like let them triangulate yeah you know so i get that Do you stream, though? Do you stream? No, I don't stream. And that, and I know exactly what you're talking about where it's like, someone's like just like on about, I don't know, it just seems. That's scary to have someone just like show up and like, because I mean, that's always been a thing too with like, I mean, we're getting back to a dark place.
Starting point is 02:12:56 But like, but, you know, no, no, that's valid. I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. As a woman. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Yeah. Yeah. No, I know. And like that's, it sucks. Because it's like not, it shouldn't be anyone's fault. but like that is just like where it's at right now. So streamers scare me. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:11 Good luck to. So you wouldn't ever stream in general either. Yeah. Not even just like, have you done like a live just Trish thing? No, no. I used to do like live YouTube video, but even that. I just don't like someone knowing where I am. Okay, guys, gonna go get some groceries or something.
Starting point is 02:13:26 You know, I don't know. Yeah. And you can still, it's like people don't like need that level of access to you either. Yeah. I'm pretty accessible, but that I don't like. I don't know. What's your fear? What's my fear?
Starting point is 02:13:37 God, what is my fear? Ooh, oh, man, I haven't thought of what a fear. You don't have any. You don't have stuff in your head? No, but I'm not, I'm genuinely not fearless, though. Like, I know I'm afraid of things. I mean, I think that I would be afraid of, oh, I'm a failure. That's afraid of failure.
Starting point is 02:14:00 Are you? Oh, totally. You leave all those rotten figs. Yeah, I'm afraid of all those figs rotting on the ground. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, definitely afraid of failure. I think that, I think, oh, if you, like, fall out of a boat in the ocean open water. We were scared of open water.
Starting point is 02:14:21 Well, I mean, open water, like, what's down there? We don't know. That's what it's crazy. Less explored than, like, the, what, the moon? Right, because no one can go down that far. Yeah, the bottom of the ocean. I don't think you'd make it down there alive So I don't think you'd have to worry
Starting point is 02:14:38 I think that there's creatures down there I really believe that there's like I mean there definitely is objectively creatures down there But I think that there's like fantastical Yeah crazy things Like there's got to be a megaladon down there or something Do we talk about this last time? What's a megaladone?
Starting point is 02:14:51 I feel like we've talked about that before here Am I dropping megaladon every Trish podcast now Or someone talked about it before We've definitely talked about Megalodon Big Big Shark Yeah the priest's scared of it Oh dude yeah they got teeth like this big Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:04 That's too big. Probably would eat you pretty quick, so we wouldn't have to worry about it. Okay. You can survive in a whale. You can't survive in a megalodon. Why are you on the megaladon side right now? Yeah. Well, you were like, you're like, are you scared of it?
Starting point is 02:15:19 Yeah, no, I would probably eat you pretty crap. Yeah, megalon, I eat you right up. It's a rational fear. It's what I'm saying, though. It's like, that is a rational fear. Yeah, but they're supposed to be extinct. That's why. They want us to believe it.
Starting point is 02:15:31 Well, don't break, I mean, geez. You're Scottish, Lottniss. Oh, yeah, no. That's one that I feel like I want to be real, though. It's real. Nassim. Yeah. That's like, that, that, have you been to Scotland?
Starting point is 02:15:45 No, but you have, so have you seen it. I thought you were there this year. I didn't you go to? I was in the U.K., but I was just in, I was in, like, the South. I was in Bright. Isn't it only England, Ireland and Scotland? Where else can you go? Northern Ireland is in the UK.
Starting point is 02:15:56 Not the, not though. That's a, that's a, that's a touchy subject, too, for in that. Oh, they're divided? Where's Southern Ireland? It's just Ireland That's just the rest of Ireland So there was like a whole like There was a whole like war thing
Starting point is 02:16:11 Like a Or like yeah I don't actually know too much information About this He did tell me that there was like a war back In the day you know him You're familiar? You don't?
Starting point is 02:16:20 No, I don't know Do you know of him? I know of the war That's what that movie One of the The Argentinean one? No the hunger It's about like some hunger strikes
Starting point is 02:16:32 that happened in a prison from like with the IRA members and stuff. But yeah. Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland. But yeah, no, I do want to go to Scotland, though. That would be cool to go. Because the locks, a lock?
Starting point is 02:16:52 They're really deep, too. Have you heard about that? Like the bodies of water? Like the unnaturally. Like they're like, it's not super huge, but they're like, thousand meters 2,000 meters deep And what do you want to go see about them
Starting point is 02:17:06 You want to go swim in them I want to see them I want to find Nessie And I want to train it Okay so you must your Well yeah That seems problematic You want to take a wild creature
Starting point is 02:17:16 And then just train it Well yeah Well yeah That is so problematic The vet we had last week Can you imagine? Can you imagine? Can you imagine?
Starting point is 02:17:25 Yeah The sexy vet Yeah He said you're sexier then Yeah That those are problematic To take animals out of the wild Even here
Starting point is 02:17:31 Like a coyote He's like, don't house it. Well, I feel like I would be doing Nessie a favor because it's like, because everyone knows that they're there. I don't know about that. Everybody knows. And the Loch Ness monster, it's like, it's in the name. You know, they know they're there.
Starting point is 02:17:47 So I'm like, I'm going to train you to be able to, like, do math and shit. And we're going to get you out of here. What? Why are you going to take out of his home? That's giving like SeaWorld vibes a little bit. No, I'm not going to, no, it's not going to be like blackfish. It's not, it's not, it's, no, we're not going to, not tricks, math. I'm going to, I'm going to teach the Loch Ness Monster how to do math.
Starting point is 02:18:09 And what's they're going to do with math? Equations. We don't even use math here. We don't even use math ever. When have you used math in your own brain, not on your phone? Exactly. Whenever I'm trying to figure out the percentage of something. You can figure that out pretty quickly.
Starting point is 02:18:25 With the little. Why would you need a percentage? They tell you on the receipt, what's the tipping amount? Yeah. They tell you 18%, 20%, 20%. No, and like other situations like, What percentage of this is this? And then you know that thing where it's like zero X out of 100?
Starting point is 02:18:36 And then you have like the amount of things. It's the proportion thing. I'm not speaking about it. So if we don't need math, I'm losing you guys. I'm losing you guys big time. What's up? If we don't use math,
Starting point is 02:18:49 why does the Loch Ness Monster need math? I don't understand your plan. I mean, we can. Well, yeah, they don't have a phone. First of all, boom, right? Thank you, Moses. They don't have a phone. And second of all, second of all,
Starting point is 02:19:01 Second of all, we don't use, you guys don't use math, sure, but you have the option. Okay. And so I'm giving Nessie more freedom and you guys are saying that I shouldn't do that is kind of crazy. But you keep saying that you want to take him out of there. From the wonders of mathematics. He's not going to learn it. Like it's just not plausible, realistic. Are we, so is Nessie, what are we rocking?
Starting point is 02:19:31 They them? They them. I feel, I was crazy. We're saying they. I love that. I was, well, I was trying to be respectful. I was trying to be respectful while also talking about how I'm going to train Larkton Spencer to do math.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Do math and also be able to, be able to shoot a gun. Okay. Maybe a rifle. I think Scotland doesn't have guns. Oh, they definitely have guns. Oh, but like in like the... I thought there was like no guns over there. Well, they've got them in the hunting context.
Starting point is 02:19:56 Like, you know, like where they dress up and they've got like the really high-waisted pants and they go in the shoe the duck. No idea. Yeah. No, they got hunting like that. I guess you would know. Whoa. Scottish.
Starting point is 02:20:07 Yeah, you're Scottish. Yeah, but I only know of it. I only know of the culture vaguely. They golf. That's what they do. And wear kilts. Yeah, they wear kilts. And they play, yeah, they play that crazy bagpipe.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Traders is over in Scotland. Yeah, I was going to say. We know because of traitors. Yeah, I'm coming. Oh. You know the show? This is my worst trait is that there are so many things that I haven't seen. and I get it always for it.
Starting point is 02:20:35 I get sh**ers for it. There are so many movies I haven't seen. There are so many shows I haven't seen and there are so many musicals now that I just haven't seen. It's just the same way though. Yeah, that's true. There's a lot of that I haven't seen either.
Starting point is 02:20:46 You can tell me something, I'm like, don't know. Yeah, but when you're, you know, I'm not thinking about that though when I'm on the receiving end of having seen something that you've seen. You know, I'm like, God, I'm just a idiot. I should have seen it. I should have seen a...
Starting point is 02:21:00 You should have, you should know Cat's eye. That's for sure. Well, no, I know of cats. I just don't know. Narly? When did this song come out? You're going to learn so much. You give me such a sats right.
Starting point is 02:21:12 It's like the TikTok song. Literally they got the TikTok award for being. Sing it right now. You could describe everything in one single word. You know, like Boba T, gnarly, Tesla, gnarly, fried chicken, gnarly, party in the Hollywood Hills. This song, Narly. Oh, my God, the new beat.
Starting point is 02:21:27 Narley. Oh, my God. Is this real? Everything's gnarly. Is it just a rap? Oh, when a session is nothing. Gang gang. Oh, we're going out tonight.
Starting point is 02:21:32 Gang, gang. Oh, my God. This song's so late. Congratulations. What does the tune sound like? I can't identify it if you don't sing the tune. Hottie, haughty, like a bag of talkies. I'm the shit.
Starting point is 02:21:43 I'm the shit. Not, not, not, gnawly. Not, not, not, not. No, no, no. I'm the shit. Everything's gnarly. Dude, I don't think I've ever heard this song in my entire life. I don't, they literally won the TikTok award.
Starting point is 02:21:58 They won the TikTok award. They won the TikTok award? Yes. I will say. as an outsider, Katzai fan, this maybe was not as popular as their other songs. No, this literally is like their most viral. What song do you know?
Starting point is 02:22:08 The touch, touch, touch, touch, touch. Yeah, that one, that one, I'm like, I couldn't. You're giving me so much. Narley, I'm like, I knew, I gave you a example of a song I did know. And I sang it. Touch is good, but Narley is the song this year. I feel like that one's way catchy to whatever the you were saying was. Respectfully and sorry.
Starting point is 02:22:28 Maybe if you see the dance, the dance really sells it. Yeah. So are we doing that dance? You have a lot of dances. You got to do SpongeBob. We got to do a lot. We should probably wrap it up. Last time we talked five hours total, it's already been like two and a half hours.
Starting point is 02:22:41 Oh, really? Yes. God, I'm just such a yapper. You are. I love it. That's why you need a yapper. Do our Patreon if you want, Ted. Yeah, we have Patreon.
Starting point is 02:22:48 We have a, we have so much we had to. Yeah. Busy. We're all busy. Busy too. What's your schedule he's like for the rest of the year? My schedule for this year? Three weeks remaining.
Starting point is 02:22:59 I fly out tomorrow. Oh. I feel like we're always getting you. Weren't you just flying out to Australia last one? Yeah. Oh, was it in April then? Yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:23:08 It was April 24. Yeah. Well, I mean, Christmas isn't like eight days, right? So you're flying to Massachusetts. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So it was actually really good timing because I had already, I think, booked my ticket. And then you said the 17th and I was like, that's perfect.
Starting point is 02:23:25 Yeah, I can go on. Christmas miracle. We made it happen. It's a Trishmas miracle. That was my one manifestation. I think. Yeah, it was your Trishmas Swish. I told everyone
Starting point is 02:23:33 won Trishmas Swish and he... My second one was Trish out get cast on the White Lotus. Yeah, but all his wishes are for other people. I was like, it wish something for you. That's,
Starting point is 02:23:42 I mean, that's so nice. Yeah, that is very... But Jimmy, our editor was just like, you know, I want everyone to be happy and, you know, good health and, you know, what was it, his boyfriend, Dallas and him to be healthy and happy and I liked yours. Moses, I didn't understand what his was.
Starting point is 02:23:55 His was something. I didn't understand. My sister, I don't, yeah. She wanted a laptop. Yeah. Yeah. But I like, Like yours was 10-Neperson, the dream came true.
Starting point is 02:24:03 You made a Christmas wish coming here today. I'm so happy to have been... You were the best. I'm so happy to have made a Christmas miracle come true. Yes. And we would love to have you back more than just a year and a half. Maybe we'll... Yeah, I'd love to come back.
Starting point is 02:24:16 See you frequently. Maybe you guys will have your own podcast right next door. We can build you a set. And next music video, I will be there. Okay, well, let's not do any promises we can't keep. He's like, okay. Yeah, well, thank you so much for having me on. It was a delight.
Starting point is 02:24:30 You're always wonderful. Ted Nifeson, everyone. Go see him everywhere. Maybe on tour next year. We'll see him. Everywhere. Take an easy podcast and other places. We'll link with up.
Starting point is 02:24:41 And everywhere. Ted Nivison. What up. Hey, Hey, thanks for having me here. All my teddy's out there. Good to see you. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:24:53 Okay, chat. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye.

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