Just Trish - Just Trish Episode for Jun 09, 2026

Episode Date: June 9, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Driven by Performance Auto Group. Yeah, like look how different are lives shaped up. Like here I am on my wedding day and like, you know. What's Carly Clause's situation? Everyone hates her. Okay. I hated it. I was like, this is awful.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Who would have watched this? I was like, okay, but I'm giving back. Because I see backrooms discourse all the time. I'm like, what the hell of the backroom? Hello, welcome to the Just Trish podcast. Not our final season, but in honor. of the final season of hacks and pride, honestly. Our favorite, will-they-w-w-they couple,
Starting point is 00:01:57 Ava and Deborah are here today. You are giving Ava Bootsdown. O-T. My bisexual icon. Yes. You are giving. Like, did you have all this? It's kind of shocking how similar Ava Daniels and I dress. I know that girl runs to Unique Lowe every time there's a sale, and as do I.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Because our closets are shockingly similar. We've been talking about this. Yeah. We both shopped the women's and the men's section at Unicoa Work. She looks so dope. Did you ever finish it? I saw two episodes last.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh my God. That last episode when she goes on the plane with her to Paris, she just looks dope. She has like this leather bomber jacket this tie. Like I want to dress like her. Like I love it so much. She is like such an icon. Obviously, like Deborah, like speaks to me so much.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Mine is for my feel season three. She's by the Bellagio Fountain with Kayla. And that's my, she wore it. She doesn't wear pink a lot, but when Debra does. stuff. But I just, I felt the vibe. I was like, wait, I, we're going to Vegas this week. This is my own our outfits. We're in the same plane. We could be wearing this. I was like, we could literally. I forgot we're living the Hodge's fantasy. Oh, I thought you were forgot you were going. I was like, oh my gosh, yes. We are. We have to show up to the airport
Starting point is 00:03:07 like this. Yes. Yes. We are giving. I know I thought that when I put this on is kind of like, I feel powerful. I feel like a Vegas entertainer. Like I just feel I feel cool at it. Tell a joke. You know those bisexuals. Whatever. I'm also giving Lori from, did you see her TikTok, Lori from Euphoria?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Gay guys. Hey guys. Also, it sounds like I said gay guys. Speaking of gay guys, happy pride month. Oh, yeah. Her TikTok were saying, gay guys. Sounds like I said gay guys. But hi to the gays too. And to the lesbians and to the buys.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Those of you have one foot in and one foot out. I don't know. I don't judge. no judgment except if you're polyamory then I'm judging you did you see that tic-tok that that was crazy and she said I didn't mean that she was like just meant that I was insecure there's nothing morally wrong with it should I delete it I love her I love I just so sorry to the actress who I don't know her name but she's so funny on ticot she did like a day in the she was doing like a day in the life of Lori but it was a day in the death so it was like her scene before she
Starting point is 00:04:09 died so she was saying goodbye to everyone like Chloe cherry's character and stuff it was really cute anyways my joke um women in uh women in entertainment am I right? Am I right? More like, man, I don't know, God, I can't tell a joke. Do you want a joke? I lost Ava. Give me one.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You're woke. Give me something woke. Do you want to give you one? Oh, you are going to give you a guy. Go, Moses. Go. My penis was in the Guinness Book of Records. But then when I returned the book, the librarian,
Starting point is 00:04:49 asked me to take it out. Oh, my God. Is this an original or did you hear this? He had to have heard. There's no way he came on. I think you're so funny. What? Is this from something?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Am I missing? Also you turning red saying penis. Because I've never actually heard you say penis. I don't think. I'm like, what the heck? I was trying to keep it. Okay. Where did you hear this joke?
Starting point is 00:05:12 On TikTok. Oh, okay. I really thought he came up with it. I was actually impressed. No, I'm not Eva. I'm not a writer. Yeah, Eva, come up with you. Let's hear your joke.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'm actually your hookup from Vegas. That's why I'm cosplaying today. Oh, the one that hooks up with everyone? The magician, prostitute? No, yours, not his. Oh! The guy you actually like and want to take a picture with.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Oh, yes. God, what is the name on the show? The guy from somewhere I turned pretty, right? No, the guy from... Adam Sandler movies. The old one from Adam Sandler. Yeah, the old guy that I love that I took a picture. His name is Christopher McDonald.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yes, that's what I am. Yeah, okay. Oh, I love that. Okay. You was gonna say the hot young guy that she was with this one. I love that too. You could be honestly anyone. You could be everyone from that show.
Starting point is 00:05:55 They're all great. Joke. I'm thinking of a woke joke. What do... It's hard. What do AI, James Charles, and Elon Musk all have in common?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Oh, wait, wait. Wait, wait. I want to actually get this joke. Okay. Say it again. I'm making it up as they go. What do AI, James Charles, and Elon Musk all have in common?
Starting point is 00:06:23 They're all bad for the environment. Oh my God. Oh, my God. I didn't know. Was it? Yeah. Okay. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:30 We're so good. We're so aligned. I can't do it. I wish you knew the story, the ending of season five hacks because I mean, that's what saves her life is a better joke. Blame Barian, because every time I'm trying to watch it, he's like, I'm not in the mood to laugh tonight. I'm like, okay, work. What is he going through that he doesn't want to laugh? It would be the opposite if you're not in the mood for that.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Right. You should have a laugh. Whatever mood. Yeah, you would think. He wants to do what at night? What's he in the mood for? Something serious, I guess. I've never heard someone be like, I don't want to laugh.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I like want to laugh if I'm in a good mood. I want to laugh. Okay. So what do you guys watch? We just finished Euphoria. Okay. All right. There is two different moods to be in for those.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah, euphoria was a hard one to like watch because it's just like, who's in the mood to ever watch that? Like that kind of stuff happened. It's kind of like, oh, man, it's tough. Yeah. You know, Coleman Domingo who plays Ali also was shooting the Michael Jackson movie at the same time. So he had to go between Joseph Jackson, who's like a monster. He's basically like the Alamo, but in the Michael Jackson universe. And then doing like Ali and then like switching back and forth at the same time.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And he had to wear prosthetics for Joseph Jackson. I'm very much in this like bunny hole of it. Bunny hole? Bunny hole? Robble. Close. Rabbit hole. And it's so fascinating.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I really love him. Michael movie? Michael and Coleman Domingo, really. Because I saw him at Wicked because he was also the voice of the lion and Wicked Part 2. And I remember seeing him and he was just like, you look great. And I was like, you look great. And so I felt connection. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yes. I would love, Amy is very popular right now, but I would love it. You'd probably get an Oscar and an Emmy, honestly, probably for both. The Michael movie was so great. I know I keep talking about it. Sorry, but, um, how are you? How was your weekend? How was Pride?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Did you go to Pride? I don't even know, assuming. No, you said. You said the New York gays were coming that you would probably go out. Um, I actually was not planning to attend Pride. I am kind of a performative gay in that way in the sense that, um, Pride, usually not my spot. However, I decided to live my Trisha Fantasy
Starting point is 00:08:28 because I got invited last minute to make a cameo during a performance at Pride. Stop it. How did I not see this? Was there leaks? Was there TikToks? And literally got asked the day before, and I was like, I'm going to do this
Starting point is 00:08:40 and not even tell Trisha. Wait, I didn't see! Did you post it? Not yet. What was it? Who was it? So Flower of Love, who I was in her music video for American wedding.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yes. That was so good. I was gay. I showed Moses right away in here. I'd already seen it. Like literally five minutes. I was like, oh my gosh. The music video Oscar did. Because I was going to ask you. And I'm like, when people ask me about something in case I got cut from something. So I was like, let me not ask. But I was good. I was like, God, that seems like it's been a while.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Oh my gosh. Yes. I know. The flower of love. Yes, flower of love. It's for a video and her song American wedding. I shot that literally the day I closed on my house. I'll never forget because it was like the most overstimulating day ever. And you were here in the morning. I was here and went to, uh, had to go to the bank to like transfer the money.
Starting point is 00:09:20 and then I had to go to Malibu to film this music video and then had to go home and sign all these papers that had no idea what they were. So I remember being overstimulated boots, but I'll never forget it because what a jam-pack day. And then she was performing at Pride. Wow. Her team asked like, oh, are you going to be at Pride at Out Loud Festival?
Starting point is 00:09:41 And I was like, no, but I can be. Oh, I love that I was saying that too. I'm always like, what's up? Yeah. So yeah, me and Darien made a little appearance. I proposed to her I thought you were saying you proposed to Daryan I was like what? I did not see this
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yeah I was a little gag Like I proposed to her during the song And then Daryon comes out on stage and goes Wait, what? What about me? Stop it! How would I not see that? Well, I haven't been on TikTok that much
Starting point is 00:10:08 Because I wasn't busy weekend I'm looking and can find it Oh my God! I haven't posted it yet Because I was like I wanted to gag you You have the footage? Can I see? I want to do a live reaction That's actually I would post right away
Starting point is 00:10:19 You know me, I post right away as soon something happens. Tanna's always like, as soon as we're in the car coming back to Do Not Love Line from Buddy Honour. I've already posted. How do you post so quick show? I'm posting a dump from like two months ago. Like I love posting right away. How did you hold this in? That is so funny. Oh my God. I'm so excited. Oh my gosh. She was really on that damn stage. Oh. How? A flower of love. You are absolutely sure of tonight. I just have one question for you. Oh my God. Absolutely. Yes. I would love tonight.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Are you? Oh my God. That's huge. We just met. Oh. Oh. Wait, what about me? Who's this?
Starting point is 00:11:03 I, listen, I forgot. I actually, like, boys, you're just serving so fiercely, I got swept into all of it. It was improv. It was so good. Well, I think you guys should go get married. Oh. I'll see you at the American wedding. Hey, I said, you should propose right then to Dariate.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Why didn't you? That was the moment. the ring back and shake it. Wait, you two. Why would you have not been like... That was your chance to kind of, yeah. Yeah, what the hell in front of everybody? They would have got action. Because I think at first the crowd is like, is this like a Kiki Palmer situation? Like, is this like Ria? Is this like how to you get up there? Do you know what I mean? Like I think they, if they don't know the video because it just came out.
Starting point is 00:11:41 That is so funny. So maybe they were like a little like concern ever and then like, okay. And then they see, so maybe they thought it was like you were just like a fan. You're right, you're right. You know what I mean? But then if you would have proposed to Derry and at Pride on stage with follower of love. I think he would have killed me. He doesn't like a spectacle proposal. Well, who cares what he wants? That's what you want.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Exactly. What we need on hot topics, actually. Deborah Vents is telling you. Exactly. You're right. Who cares? It would have made for a good hot topic today. We're trying to sell Medicine Square Garden.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah. We need to. Oh, my God. We're trying to sell Cosmo at Chelsea this weekend. Maybe you'll propose there. You guys never know. That's exciting. It's cool that the video came into life in life performance.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I know. It's kind of like the narrative of the video is kind of like in real life. That's what I'm saying? I think because the video, because what day was that? Literally, we, the pride was Sunday and the video came out Friday. Yeah. It's very fresh. It's very fresh.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So there, but I do, I do love that. I love how she incorporated. That's really nice. Oh my God. I know. I know for something. She like loves you or what. She's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Oh my God. That's so nice. I've been listening to her for a couple years. And she was like a model before she was a singer. I mean the plight of this girl. Yeah. She was a model before. She was a singer.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And, yeah, she's opened up for a lot of other artists. And she was at Governor's Ball than day before Pride. And then she came and did Pride. Oh, my gosh. They're working that girl. But she was just so good. Yeah. I love her.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That was so good. Were you like, do you get nervous? Do you get nervous? To me, I'm like, it's kind of camp. Like, I don't really pay. I feel like a character in like the Sims or something whenever I do something for the plot. Yeah. Darian was a little nervous, but he did drink before.
Starting point is 00:13:20 So he was, he was wearing to go. He was good. He was like, there's all this improv. If it's improv too, my worst nightmare. Like, if someone's like, just come on and riff, I'd be like, absolutely not. That's so scary. I actually do, like, weirdly bad in those situations. Like, if I have to, like, go on stage, very, like, dancing with the stars.
Starting point is 00:13:34 They don't tell me, like, what I'm doing. I, like, you remember? Because the first question I answered on Dancing with the Starst stage, I remember I got it wrong. And I was like, oh, maybe I should, like, looked at these questions beforehand. Because it was something like, cha-cha, rumba. And I don't even know what the next order was supposed to be. And I remember, like, I weirdly do bad in those situations because I get, like, nervous in front of a crowd.
Starting point is 00:13:51 but you like kind of ate actually. Thanks, it was mine. That was cute. Yeah, I didn't stay apart very long, but it was fun while I was there. Did you say any time after? Yeah, I stayed a little bit after. I mean, I got there in the afternoon, saw a little bit of the parade, met a lot of viewers, obviously. Did you?
Starting point is 00:14:08 Shut up. Oh, my. We need a float next year. I keep saying this every year. I'm going to really look into it. We need to be like, oh my God, you, Jimmy, Dallas, like, all of us, we're all here. Like, all just, like, here. Maybe Malibu at that point, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Just like everyone just out there. They have queer family day, which is like cool. It's like, I don't know if it's part of pride, but one of our friends, they brought their daughters and it's like this really cool like pride festival for like kids and such. I don't know like Wiiho festivals like for kids, but like the, it was really cool because it was like a family friendly like pride. It was fun. I like that.
Starting point is 00:14:39 So you stayed. Did you go to bars, dancing clubs? I did not. Jimmy Whetzel sure did. I was a little concerned because he was at hamburger marries and $3 shots. And let me tell you he was going to 10. He was doing me live updates. And I was like, okay, you know, it was a little worry.
Starting point is 00:14:56 He was little worried because he was feeling it. Oh, did you see him? He was having the gayest time. I was trying to meet up with him after, but Hamburger Marys was a 30-minute walk from where I was. And then I was like, girl, I don't know if I'm going to make it. It's not like right there where the action is. It was a little bit of a walk. But he's like, no one's here.
Starting point is 00:15:12 There's $3 shots. And I'm giving out $1 bills to every queer person I see. And I was like, jeers. I would have made the walk for that. Like, oh, you're giving out money. Let's go. He was getting tit from all the daddies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Oh, I love that. Oh, I wish I would have seen him out. You guys, I'm surprised you guys didn't meet up. Like, I'm trying to come to you or something. Well, we were trying to link up because, and this is so on brand, but guess who I was supposed to collaborate with at Pride? A who? A man I speak about very often. Stop.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Stop it. Hassan? No. What the fuck? How did you fumble that? I didn't fumble that. He ended up not coming because there was, like, breaking close. He had a cover instead.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Because I met up with Austin's show and Christian. Yeah, I met up with them back. And they were like, oh, guess who's gonna come? Uh, Hassan's gonna be live streaming. You have to crash the stream. And I was like, yeah. I felt to my knees. And then their friend Peach Jars, who also is a viewer,
Starting point is 00:16:08 and I love her. She's so furious. Peach Jars? Yeah, she's so cute. I like the name. Um, I ran into her after and she was like, oh, I don't know, there's some breaking news. So I feel like he's probably not gonna come.
Starting point is 00:16:18 He's probably gonna stay home and keep streaming. And I was like, Oh no. And then Christian came and was like, ooh, girl, I am so sorry. He is not going to be coming to the Abbey. And I was like, my life is over. But he's like, don't lose hope, sister,
Starting point is 00:16:29 because we need to make this gay swap happen. I was like, okay, fierce. Yes. But I was so close. And I told Jimmy when I found the news, I was like, Jimmy, we had to be at the Abbey right at this time. Hassan and Kaya, the dog, are going to be at the Abbey live streaming.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He doesn't sound like much of an ally to me. Little homophobic, I think. Oh, I have to stay home. Okay. You can go off for an hour to eat. eat like you have to eat like you can't just stay on your stream you know you could stay on the stream actually you can stay on the stream and come out like you could do both that's all right I don't buy it but it was so close I was so well the swap can happen whenever because I just see his gaze and he gets you
Starting point is 00:17:03 and that's it we don't have to have these guys are going to New York um for a couple weeks I know actually maybe because they leave they leave for a week yeah everyone seems to be switching everyone goes like LA and then they all go to like New York pride I know there's so many prides and also it's so early in June for all these prizes but work you know early but like I know I say this is like an old person. It's like time goes fast. It does go fast. It was a June 8th or something already.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And also at least it was this weekend so we didn't compete with like the Vegas show. Right. That would have been. Vegas show always. Mine last year was like on Coachella. Like it always just coincides like the worst time. But anyways. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:38 At least this year it worked out with, you know, we got to do WeHo and then Vegas. Then Vegas. Is there any pride this week? Is there LA Pride? Like downtown. L.A. Pride. Which in WeHo, they have all these signs. This is not Los Angeles Pride.
Starting point is 00:17:52 This is a WeHo Pride. They really want to differentiate. I did a sponsor post for WeHo Pride last year. And I was like, do not say L.A. And I was like, oh, that's so interesting. It's like, specifically talk about your West Hollywood Pride experience. Which that's the only pride I know. I've never been to like downtown L.A. Pride.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I think Jimmy went, Jimmy and Dallas went to L.A. Pride thinking it was WeHo Pride last year. And then this year, they were like, oh, no, locked in for WeHo Pride. Yeah. It's a different crowd. I think it's a little bit more, like, lively, you know. No. Because all the bars and everything.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's also like a parade and stuff, but this one has all the performers. Like the pop girls are here for WeHo. There's all the bars. There's a lot going on. Let me tell you. A lot going on. It always does sound fun. It always sounds fun.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But it does sound like a lot of people. Do you have to Uber there? I drove and then it parked like 20 minutes. It was 20 minutes. But then with all the closures, end up being like almost like a 35, 40 minute walk. It was a lot. But a pilgrimage for the gays, you know. Dary and enjoy it or he's like,
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah, he had fun. He wanted to stay out later because, like, Peach and Christian and Austin were going to stay, like, super late. But I'm like, I got to work in the morning. Yeah. Who has jobs here? Like, who has jobs? Well, I think Jimmy edits Sunday night for Not Loveline. Oh, he sure does.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Okay. He sure does. He was like, let me start drinking some water at, like, 7 p.m. I like work. Oh, so maybe what I, it's funny, I texted him just to ask about pride. And I did feel like maybe he thought I was, like, questioning about that. And I was trying to come at him as, like, a friend. So I wanted to know, like, what the vibes were.
Starting point is 00:19:19 but it did kind of sound a little bit like accusatory. He was very paranoid because he was like, am I going to be able to sober up to edit? So he drank a lot of water on the way home. Yeah, and he did. He did sober up. Okay. I mean, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Whatever however does it? His drug texts are just so funny because he's like, I love you so much. I love Just Trish so much. Yeah. He's just like, he's just so sweet. Oh, wait, I love that. No, he's always very sentimental.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I know. I love that, Jimmy Wetzel. Oh, I'm so happy you guys had fun at Prime. Glad you went. I know me too. It was a fun time. And getting to see everyone, like, I saw Trixie Mattel for a second out of drag, but I clocked Brian immediately. I was like, did you go up?
Starting point is 00:19:58 No. No. I just was like... Do other people clock him? Like, they know? Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, because Trixie's just like so. It's like Rupal. It's like so famous, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah. I saw Luscious Massacre. Okay. There was a lot of divas out. A lot of divas out. And we hope by. Meg Stalter. She performed.
Starting point is 00:20:15 She performed. Yes. She has song gay. Yes. We're all just gay queen songs. gay pop icon yeah i love that i saw it on her little instagram was like oh my god we both have song called gay and she looked so fierce yeah she looked great yeah it was fun oh my gosh so much fun i know okay going out how do you feel this morning oh like i got hit by the bus oh really yeah
Starting point is 00:20:34 well hell you didn't say out too late no and i didn't even drink oh no but it is i know when we go out to i'm always like social hangover yeah you just want to like yeah rest for a full day yeah but it was a good time i'm glad i went and when else i'm gonna be on stage at we hope pride. It's so funny though because like when we were on our way out, Countess Luan took the stage and sang like the song, whatever songs that was
Starting point is 00:20:59 in the real housewives. And seeing gay people be activated is the craziest thing. Oh, they love? I saw a stampede of like twunks and twinks and bears and not. It is everyone was
Starting point is 00:21:15 activated and started storming the campgrounds. It was was crazy. All of a sudden, everyone just starts coming out of the woodworks. People are in line for pizza. People are in line
Starting point is 00:21:25 for the bathroom. People are at the bar. And they just start running over to the stage to see Countess and Luoy. What's her song? Sheik, Cé la Vie. Sebon. Sebon.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah. And then she does a couple cover. She has a couple like cabaret songs. It's something fierce. Okay. And they love it.
Starting point is 00:21:41 The gays went feral. The gays went feral. Is this like a new thing or has it always been like it seems like there's this like wave of like gay icons, but like they're old women. Tale as old as time.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And I love it because I'm aging. You know what I mean? So it's like, well, I always have a career, like at 55, can I still do? I love you, Jesus. You know what I mean? And that just come flocking. Is this like a new thing or has it always been?
Starting point is 00:22:03 Because I always thought they loved like the Britney's or like Madonna, you know, the Edison. It's very, very Deborah Vancey's. I mean, but think about Beth Midler, Barbara, I stress like the-Seline, Caroline, Carly-Meno. But Countess is like, no offense, but she's not like, share. You know what I mean? She's not like a legend from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Oh, she's a camp legend. But she wasn't young when she started, I guess, as I'm saying. Oh, I see. I see. I feel like following your faves. I think the Bravo, like a Bravo Liberty can, if you are of moral ins, like, if you if you show the gays love as a Bravo Liberty, the gays will give you that love back. And it's been Bravo to get that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I don't think so, but like the Bravo Lebrity world, like very specifically, like, as you see with, like, you know, the summer house and, you know, the pump rules and everything, like the fan bases are pretty loyal and devoted. But there's some housewives. that are like kind of conservative and, you know, aren't allies as much and the gay's pay them no mind, like kind of pay them dust. But if you are an ally, if you show the gay's love,
Starting point is 00:22:58 if you support us, we give that right back to you tenfold. They love Bethany. And we'll keep you booked. We'll keep you on a stage. Okay, interesting. Thank you so much to Ali Pop for sponsoring this episode of Jess Trish. I am loving their new summer flavors
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Starting point is 00:25:08 Thank you so much to Ollipop for a sponsor today's episode of Just Trish. Okay, so I just have to get on housewives then, I think. That's my next. Kind of, yeah. Maybe in my 40s. That's my next venture. That might be it for you. I'm asking, I'm begging.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Swade Brooks did say she would love me to cameo on. Calabasasca's Confidential. It was so ironic because literally we were kind of like imagining us in that show last week. I think she was a scene in the clip because there's just no way because it was the next day. It was that Tuesday. But that was us on Patreon. Well, maybe she's a Patreon. Was it?
Starting point is 00:25:39 We talked about her a little bit on, but then we imagined ourselves in Calabasca's Confidential on Facebook. Oh, weird. Shout out Spill Sash for getting that interview. I was Spilsh, you got it. And I was like, look, I was like, wait, that's what I thought. Joe's kind of gagged for a moment. But that's the way. I think we talked about it.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Well, universally, we talked about it. Maybe the universe put it out there. And then she was like, that was crazy. I mean, Howie Mandel is making a cameo at the commons for Calabasas. No. Yes, like the clip. He's at the turtle pond at the commons. I love the turtle pond.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And he just like walks up to the kids who are filming. And what's he say? He made a joke about the turtles or something. And I'm like, okay, the concept of Howie Mandel just coincidentally at the turtle pond walking up to this camera crew, I guess. And that's it? He just said the joke and kept walking. He just makes this little cameo.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Yeah. It was interesting. No, I want to go to, like, hi-ho cheese burgers and then, like, try those chicken fingers with them. You know what? I want to do something. I want to do it. Because we talked about it,
Starting point is 00:26:28 and it hasn't even been up on that love line, too. I asked Tanna about her lore with Swabooks. That's like, okay, wait, you have to tell me because I'm, like, so interested in these kids on the shell. Like, I'm still, like, in show. She's kind of being, like, the whole, like, Swade is from Vegas, not even Calabasas. Because they make it seem like,
Starting point is 00:26:40 that one girl's like, my family was here before. The Kardashians or whatever. So I thought they were all, like, Calabasas kids, but they're not really. They kind of just pretend. Yeah, there's like a couple of them who are actually from Calabas, and some of them that are just like Calabasas adjacent. A lot of them went to like the same schools or like the schools in the valley, like for
Starting point is 00:26:57 sports and stuff, they all kind of intermingle. Got it. But Vegas is like a whole out of state. I know. And like, yeah, the rest of them kind of have lore because they went to high school and stuff together. And then they went off to college and then came back. So it's like the sum of them being back in Calabasas.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I think they just was like, we're like, let's put Swade Brooks in here and kind of shake the table. Oh, I got it. Okay, yeah. She is shaking it. I love the bob. The bob looks great. This is the Amazon, too.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It looks good. It looks good on you. You're so fierce with the bob, and I think you feel yourself in it. I do. I do feel powerful in a bob. It looks so good. It looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Well, it's like the hospice of Beverly Hills, too. Like they all live in Zeno. Yeah, it's like you're not in Beverly Hills. It's like. Only like Kathy Hilton and. Dorit maybe? She got, no, Dorit's Encino.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Oh, is she? Didn't she still want that got robbed? Uh-huh. And that was in Encino? Yeah. Someone else got robbed in Beverly Hills, I thought. Or was that, maybe that was the Christine Quinn. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Them burglars were hitting up all the girls. But the doorway one was like, people were questioning. Yeah, because it was something, there was some, God, I forget exactly what happened, but it was like her, her ex-husband had a weird financial situation. So people thought it was like a bit of a fake story that he had. Like a Nate Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah, because she was like tied up or something. Oh. Yeah. And then if it's like real and everyone's just like, you're faking it. I don't get that trauma. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 There was another serious thing. I'm trying to think of what it was. Oh, we talked about it already. It was the refrigerator falling on the influence. Right? Did we talk about it? Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And everyone's like, don't believe her this fake. I'm like, what if that actually like happened though? That's a crazy thing to make up. And she was like, we talked about it. I think maybe it was on Patreon too. I don't remember. But she was like live TikToking from the ambulance. And she asked the guy, like, what happened to me.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He's like a fridge fell on you. And it's like, I don't, I mean, that'd be like a lot of work. It's a lot of work. And like renting an ambulance and everything. Yeah. And also what a random lie to make up. Like, I would never think of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:54 But people love to be like fake. Do you watch 20 awards last night? No, I did not. I was at pride. I mean, that's like, that is pride. It's this pride all the way. Oh, weirdly. Not weirdly.
Starting point is 00:29:06 In a good way. It was very, uh, it was very female driven. last night. They had the opening number and it was pink and it was all the female leading ladies and she was doing Lady Mamalarn
Starting point is 00:29:15 Rosie Mike. Marmalard. What is it? Lady Mama Lard? What is it? Marmalade. Mammalad? Marmalade.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Marmalade. How do you say it? Lady Marmalade. Marmalade? Yes. Marmalad. What did I say? Marmalard.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Marmalard. Welcome to the stage. Mamelard. Great. Lady, Mom. What is it? We use lard over here. Lard.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Do we? On what? Some cooking. No. I know people use lard and cooking. Do we use? I mean, I don't mind it. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It's a pig? What is it? What's lard? Something we use bacon to create the... The salsa and beer uses lard on their beans and rice. That's why Ari can't eat there because it's not vegan. Rosie, that's what I was going to go to. Friend Rosie, friend at the show.
Starting point is 00:30:07 debuted her facelift. Yeah, she looked great. Okay, when I met her like a couple weeks out of my show, I said that. I didn't even, I just said it. I was like, oh my God, you look great. And she had told me like between you and me, just like, you know, she just did like her chin or something like that because she like lost a bunch of weight on Jarrow. Then, but how do people know how do you know she facelift?
Starting point is 00:30:23 She said it? She talked about it, yeah. Oh, I love it because I thought it was like the seat. First of all, I didn't know. I mean, it was like unclockwise. She just looked amazing because she said she was like 64 and I was like, oh my God, we look like the same age. Like it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Um, but I feel like, damn those faceliftss. They really look good. They'll snatch you up. She looks snatch you up. She looks snatch you up. I was like, maybe I should get one. I feel like it should be like start early so you don't get the saggy and all that stuff. What if you sag later on, then you have to get another one.
Starting point is 00:30:50 That's what I would think. I don't know scientifically, but. I don't either. I just thought it pulls your face. So how's it going to sag? Gravity. Yeah, right? I would think.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I have no idea. But she said that in an interview at the Tony, she was like, I have never had paparazzi waiting for me at the airport. But now that I said once I said I got a facelift, all of a sudden I get off the plane. Oh. All these people want to see my face. Was that the tea? She's so fierce.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Oh, that's so funny. Well, she hasn't been to the U.S. in so long. I know she's like coming to California soon too. So she hasn't been in the U.S. for a while. So also that interesting. Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know it was like public or anything. I just remember her being like.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, she went public with it. And it was like such a such a thing. Everyone was so curious about it. Oh, I kind of love that. I love that serve. It's just like people like want to know what your face looks. And Kathy Griffin, who's friends with Rosie. So I think it was like a lighthearted thing.
Starting point is 00:31:38 But she was like, when I got my facelift, Rosie was giving me so, such a hard time over it. Then she goes and gets one and is like living for it. Like what the- That's always the case though. It's always the case. Like people will always say something because like it is a crazy thing, right? And it's like it is such a big deal.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And as Rose is like really expensive. Like it is such a crazy thing. So I think like for the longest time, it's like me like the jail piece for a while too. I'm just like, I don't know. But then it's like you know if you like get on it. You probably just like, wow, I feel so good. It's just like, you know, you don't know until you know until you try it.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But Kathy's also had, like, quite a few, right? So, like, it's not like it's, you know, groundbreaking, I suppose, for people to see her. She looks right, though. Yeah, she does. That looks great. Honestly, and Chris Jenner, like, everyone's inspiring me. Bunny X-O just got one. Like, I want one.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Oh, she got one, too? Yes. And she's young. She's, like, 45. That's what's like, I really want to get a face lift. Maybe my 40s. Okay, so in my 40s. Okay, so in my face-lift, and I'm getting on.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Oh, housewives. Oh, it's my other thing. Oh, work. it on a real housewife or getting it before I get on real housewives. I think that could be like maybe your B plot on the show is your face lift. Yeah. Oh, I like that. That seems very like housewives he used to me. We'd start
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Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, I get to manifesting girl. Oh, that's actually wasn't on my notes, but I have been thinking about this. Because I'm 90-day fiancé, one of the couples, like, one of the, the girl, the fiancé, she is from Brazil, and she, like, really believes in manifestation. But her partner, who's in Long Beach, he's like, well, it's not manifestation. Like, I put in all the work to make this happen. So anytime she, like, brings it up, it's like, thank you, universe. Like, I'm so glad this happened.
Starting point is 00:33:26 He goes, well, like, you should be thanking me first, not the universe first, because I actually put in the work. a man thing to say like what do you mean you're universally created like you want to be here if it wasn't for the universe she said when i think the universe like you're included in that but he's like well i'm actually you know the one getting the k1 i'm the one doing all the work to make it happen is he the american yes figures oh i hate it hate it oh i would be like actually i don't need you i will show you i'll show you what the universe does yeah oh she's from brazil yeah she's from brazil yeah and it's like you can file a paperwork or you can do all that stuff and it's like
Starting point is 00:34:03 it's just luck of the draw sometimes with those. Sometimes you just meet someone that's like we're not granting this and sometimes you get like a good case where it's just like whatever comment you know what I mean? So it's also she should be thinking of the universe
Starting point is 00:34:12 because there's other people in play besides that person just submitting the paperwork you know. Great PLB, yeah. Yeah, that's so dumb. Yeah, some people get it easier than others and it kind of probably just depends on like whichever agents reviewing your case
Starting point is 00:34:23 you know, sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you meet a little bit. And all because you like you do get lucky like luck is a factor it also doesn't like or attract from you know
Starting point is 00:34:37 you actually working to make it happen either you know what I mean so like I feel like they kind of go hand in hand yeah and like let her be her whimsical self and like believe in the universe like you know what I mean like that's probably only helping
Starting point is 00:34:47 if she's right it's helping both of you if you're right it gives me the equine manner like actually it was me that did it it's like yeah you should just do that because like you don't have to get any credit oh do you like that guy that couple I like her
Starting point is 00:34:59 she seems like a fun time like I just I like her whimsy like yeah um and he's the worst is he ugly he's not ugly he's like cuteish um and he seems like he really like loves her and stuff but yeah that man the whole manifestation thing is like a big part of their storyline so far it's only like two episodes in but that's been like a big plot for them and he hates it how interesting yeah i mean i i get kind of what he's saying as far as like you know he also just like wants to be acknowledged that he's you know trying his best to care for her and make sure everything is happening yeah but yeah I don't I think saying that you're like manifested or like you know you think you're thankful to the universe that the
Starting point is 00:35:40 stars are aligning for you it doesn't make and he's part of that yeah exactly part of that journey I think men have in not I was going to say not to generalize but actually yes to generalize yeah men straight men like really want credit and like ownership of you know things and their accomplishments and stuff which what that is about yeah it's giving D.E. T. Not Latter-D-D-Saint. And he's white, so I'm like,
Starting point is 00:36:04 maybe it's a little bit of the Christopher Columbus of it all. Like, you have to feel like you discovered America or whatever. Like, what you did. That's kind of what it gives me. No shade. Was Christopher Columbus white?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Figures. Yeah, he's from Europe. Oh. He's Spanish. So is he like... He's European, though. Wait, what? He was he from Spain, maybe?
Starting point is 00:36:21 I don't know. He's European. And he discovered... He said he discovered, but the indigenous people and the natives were here first. So you didn't discover shit. got to India he wasn't really what oh yeah clock that yeah clock Christopher Columbus
Starting point is 00:36:35 it's like that's the typical trade man they make a mistake and they somehow turn it around to be like hey look at me I discovered America yeah so okay he thought he was coming to India he tried to get to India okay he thought I get to India that's why he called the people in the direction yeah oh oh so he started it he's the problem he's he's patient zero with this oh okay damn and then we all just kind of follow suit yeah I guess because history. Yeah. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:03 For so long, though, it just recently was, like, changed. I know, true. Growing up, there was always, like, you play cowboys and that. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. Oh, my God. It is kind of giving that colonialism of it all. So he's the first colonizer, literally.
Starting point is 00:37:16 And I guess America. Oh, right. Yeah. But it definitely existed elsewhere. But that's what kind of what it reminds me of. So why did it, and then what did he get for discovering America? Did he get anything? Like a title?
Starting point is 00:37:30 Okay, what year did he discover it versus what year Washington became president? Is it like simultaneously? I don't think so. Wait, without Googling, who came later? No, you already googled. Okay, what? Well, I already know Christopher Columbus was first because you have to discover something before you build the government. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:50 So, so he could have just said, I'm the president. Yeah, but I don't think that existed, yeah, because it was owned by England for. Yeah, he took a while to deal America. It's own country. So he didn't benefit by saying he discovered America. He was Italian. Oh, Italian. There we go.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Okay. White. Well. Italians would like to not think they are. I'm Italian. I'm not white. They always love to say that. I'm like, I think that's white.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anything. Yeah. Like, do you not get a title or money or anything? Yeah. Like. What?
Starting point is 00:38:22 So he just is getting. Did they even have money back then? They just have like seashells and stuff. I actually don't know. Oh, that's the barter system. Pish your gold was this. Oh, gold. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And in Fokohannis, remember? He's like, gold boys. Gold and Discover, it's gold boys. Yeah, they were like throwing coins everywhere. Okay, work. I'm assuming that simultaneously. Christopher Columbus and Bocahontas. And John, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:38:44 John Smith. John Smith. But John Wolfe was his real name. Oh. Disney changed it. They colonized that name. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, John Smith.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Sounds white and American. John Smith. So, like, that's your, that's crazy. When people, like, judge people's, like, kids names, like, you change your kid John Smith, the most common name in the world. John Smith. Well, we don't like Christopher Columbus, right? At some point, he was a governor of the Indies.
Starting point is 00:39:10 That's what they called him back then. But he and he enforced harsh policies and forced labor. Oh, my God. For gold mining and agriculture. Okay, he was dastardly. I mean, the whole goal they had was to find a place and exploit all the resources. Oh, that was the goal. I was like, well, it's not blame people for like what they didn't know.
Starting point is 00:39:28 What if that was his goal? That was what he wanted to do. Oh, my God. It was sick and twisted. Eelph. And George Washington was 300 years later, so that was quite some time. Yeah. That was a crazy evolution.
Starting point is 00:39:39 What happened in between? Go, pick up a history book. You want me? Because what are the years? We'll watch Hank Green. I don't know. Hank Green? The fault in our stars guy?
Starting point is 00:39:49 Is he a historian? They're like teachers or whatever. Like educators. I think they're just influencers probably now. What are the years? And now does fill in the blank? They fill in the rest. What are the years?
Starting point is 00:39:58 of Christopher Columbus and... Like the Civil War and stuff, I'm assuming. Like the, you know, John Revere. Civil War was definitely after Washington. No, right? Because then they have to be free from England before they had a president? No? Wait, what part are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yes, but the Civil War is civil. Oh, wait, you're right, right. I'm thinking of the Boston Tea Party, honey. Yes. The Boston Tea Party. You guys are throwing out with words on these three. That's great.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Tea Party because they threw out that tea in that in the harbor. Yes. In Hamilton, he's like, you cry. Oh, T, you should know all this because in Hamilton. When you see me go by. Yeah, of course. But that's what I know about that. But they don't mention Columbus.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Well, you need Columbus to musicals. Absolutely not. Let's definitely not too. That sounds awful. That sounds horrible. Do you imagine? Oh, my gosh. A bit of a Tony, probably.
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Starting point is 00:42:59 Love that. There was an update from the off-campus star Mika Abdallah and her ex, Jake Shore, the interview, the little podcast clip. Yes. So that podcast clip last week went super viral where he referred to his then-fiancee as quote-unquote some bitch. Crazy. So it went super viral, kind of took a life of its own.
Starting point is 00:43:20 and then Mika and Jake Shore issued a joint statement addressing all the negative attention to us weekly. And they're not together, right? They're not together. Why did they issue a joint statement? I would have been like, he's the worst. That's why we broke up. Why? I already can tell it's going to be in his favor.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Well, T. She said, we've seen a, they've said, sorry, we've seen a conversation around clips of us together when we were in a relationship in people making harmful and inaccurate assumptions about our dynamic. The former couple added that they were in a loving, respectful relationship for five years, and it's her to see playful moments dissected in a way that does not reflect the respect and love we had and still have for each other. And then Jake Shore also posted a statement to his Instagram story and said, I made a disrespectful juvenile joke in a clip that recirculated this week. It's imperative to me that I take accountability, as I am aware that it was inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:44:15 It's not representative of who I am or who I was in my relationship, but I continue to. to learn from the situation and work to show people the respect they deserve. Okay, that was better. Their joint statement, I was like so annoyed because I was like, people are dissecting our thing. It's like, no, is disrespectful as people should know about it. But I guess then he did say, like, he takes accountability. Did he ever do it?
Starting point is 00:44:33 I'm sorry. I hate when guys cannot just say I'm sorry. I know T. Was there no apology really. That was all. I want to take accountability. What's the accountability? Where's the apology?
Starting point is 00:44:40 I also be like, this is not okay. You should never talk to a woman like that. Like it should be a little bit more glad to acknowledge, but should have been a little bit more. Tea, I agree. But I don't like that they had to issue a joint statement Because to me Yeah, she didn't do anything This is me
Starting point is 00:44:51 Just speculating and thinking Because she had nothing to lose So I feel like he Might have in my opinion Went to her and was like, look Help me out here Can we issue a statement like together Like have her be involved in it
Starting point is 00:45:05 To kind of absolve him a little bit That's kind of what it gives Like you should have just issued your own statement Like don't drag her back into it Yeah And also like Yeah his statement was fine on his own. I think the joint thing was weird. And it's also weird, like you said,
Starting point is 00:45:19 like, why are she having to apologize or address it? Uh-huh. And then you guys didn't really address it. You're like, this was like a lighthearted thing that we did. It's like, okay, well, that wasn't the issue. The issue is like disrespectful. Like, what the fuck? Like, are you getting abusive for, like, and then now he cleared it. He's like, it was like, yeah, but like, yeah, like, looping her in it. And then there's been so many other, like, clips that have come out to that I'm like, oh, my God. He was doing like another podcast. Um, I think he was a guest on a podcast. And he was like, yeah, like, this is when they were just dating. And he goes, yeah, Like, Mika's always been, like, asking, when are we going to get married?
Starting point is 00:45:47 When are we going to get married? And he goes, should I propose to her right now? Will you marry me? Yes. She said yes! Oh, my gosh. Congratulations. We're getting married.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And then it's like a Zoom podcast interview. He goes, Mika, do you want to? And she goes, what? You want to get married? And she's like, yeah. So also, like, to play in her face like that and like, I hate that. And then what? And then what, was it not real?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Well, they didn't get engaged. I don't know if that was the real engagement or what. Like it wasn't just a bit because I just saw that one clip. I was like, ugh. And then there was like another clip where they were filming the, him and his co-host Bradley were filming like the podcast. And then they were trying to pull up like a TikTok. And then it was like a like a hot video of like Jenna Ortega and Sabrina Carpenter from the music video they did together. And it was like a fan out of them being hot.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Oh my God. The first. Oh, hey. Wait a second. Is that? Oh, it's Jenna Ortega and Sabrina Carpenter. How about that is the first thing on Dennis's TikTok? It would be it's actually your profile brother. Oh it's a scene chat profile. Do not give me in trouble here. Do not make it sound like that then it's Jake runs that
Starting point is 00:46:59 Brutal he's looking at that you creep run that and then he goes Bradley who's also married was like oh that's not my TikTok. That's like the show account like I don't want it to look like that's my FYP and then he goes Jake's the one that's on it and then Jake goes yeah like I would smash them I mean he's engaged I know I know so I'm like oh no he's just like big and I think it's like we're seeing him as the big egg how old is he he's like in his 20s right yeah okay it's like you're just
Starting point is 00:47:28 I think he's 25 you know just some people just can't hide their real character like that's just too oh yeah oh see yeah that it's that age group I think it's just like he can't hide the real character that he is that he's just kind of like awful maybe he's just like insecure maybe he wasn't brought up with like women To me, it kind of gives like he is no shade, but I guess kind of shade. She's like hotter than him, you know? So I feel like it's always that. How it comes across to me as a viewer is like you kind of need to humble her.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah. So make it seem like, you know, they're on a similar playing field when like she's so much harder than him. That's so real. That's kind of what it gives to me. That's what everyone always says. Yeah, always when there's someone like, yeah, they have to like you said humble that person. There was a guy on TikTok kind of went viral. It was like a couple.
Starting point is 00:48:12 and he was like praying when she over her period. Did you see that one? No. Did you see it? Why are you guys on the side of TikTok? It was all of my TikTok. I had so many views. And she's like, I think she's holding a baby, I think. Well, it's just like them and him and her. And I think she's holding a baby. And he's like, okay, dear Lord,
Starting point is 00:48:29 we're going to pray right now. My wife has her menstrual cycle. And we're just going to pray that she's productive this cycle. We're going to pray that basically just being like praying that she's not going to be a cycle. And it was just like praying over all this stuff. Like for her. He's like, I want her to be productive. this cycle. I want her to not get angry.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I want her to be able to help the baby and feed the baby. All this like crazy stuff. It was like so weird and it went viral so much and everyone was just like if a man and she's like sitting right there too. He's like basically explaining, man's explaining to us. Like she's sitting there. He's like, yeah. So she's currently on her period and usually around this time of month she gets
Starting point is 00:49:00 you know a little irritable and a little this and he's like today we're going to pray over it to make sure this doesn't happen again. And it was so I wanted to strangle him so much and I think it's just a random couple. I don't think it's like maybe they're influencers I don't know but it was just so frustrating, like having, oh my God, if you ever prayed over my period, I would be like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I'm like, half of the stuff he talks about is in his hands. Like, you can make sure those things don't happen. Like, you can be accommodating and helpful. No, all of it. No, also, she doesn't want to be productive on her period. Like, like, let her lay there. Like, oh, my God, she's like bleeding out. Like, what? So weird.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I mean, the praying itself probably already sends her off. No, that a lot. I know. I was just like, this guy is the worst. This makes me, like, lose all faith in men and that person, too. It's like that movie when he make that wish. It is going to win wish Willow T's. He's literally making a wish he's going to regret later.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Oh, my God, that's right. It's going to happen, but in a way he doesn't expect it. Yeah, that's so true. Oh, my God, that's a sequel to Obsession is that. Oh, I did see that Italian restaurant on the news. Oh, the piece of place. Is that way you brought up last night? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yeah, like Little Tony. Yeah. Did you see it on the news, too? Is that why you brought it up on last half time? I saw people on TikTok go to recreate this. scene and now it's become like a viral thing where everyone's going there and trying to sit in the exact booth where they filmed obsession that's so funny i know that's so crazy how big that got from that i know and the fact the movie's like performing so well still like it's um made in his
Starting point is 00:50:27 fourth week and it's like the biggest fourth week ever for a horror movie it's really crazy it's so impressive it's become a full-on phenomenon i think i mean they discussed a few things like where to take obsession next and one thing they pitched was having having it almost be kind of like either an anthology show or something where like each episode in a season was like a different wish kind of bridgetin vibes tea kind of yeah like a different um plot with a different wish coming true so you would have eight tries of being in this in the show i really want to see you in the oh me oh i'm thinking you yeah for sure i could be would it be all obsession or just the wish thing i think it would just be different takes on the wish and like how
Starting point is 00:51:11 We probably have to call it obsession each time, like season one, season two. Kind of like Black Mirror, I don't know. I've never seen Black Mirror, but is it like, I was doing different stories. Given that, though, American Horror. Like it gave me that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. See that. Like an anthology tease.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there's a lot of shows like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but like a wish gone wrong is kind of a good premise. Yeah. Do you think Euphoria will do that? Will they'll just be a completely different cast? Sam Levinson said he is done with Euphoria after the season finale.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah, he did an interview right after. And he's like, yes, euphoria is done. Like, I'm excited to like, like, not do anything for a bit after this. But those are like famous last words. Right. You know, every time HBO comes calling
Starting point is 00:51:49 and it's like, actually you want to reboot Euphoria. Oh my God, HBO, they asked permission to use one of my tweets. I think it was like, okay, wait, let me get it right. It was the free, I'm free tweet, but it was how to do with House of Dragons
Starting point is 00:52:02 and I thought of you because I was like, oh. I love House of Dragon. And it's coming out soon, like a new thing, right? Yeah, the premiere is today. Oh, I must have missed it. Okay, it's today? The premiere, yes. I think I was supposed to do something with that.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Maybe I forgot to respond. Okay, let me go back. Because they were like, I thought of you. Oh, they said, well, this is something June 21st, so maybe it's not the premiere, maybe it's something else. It's the, like, the event premiere, but the show comes out later in June, yeah. Oh, because they're like,
Starting point is 00:52:26 we have another idea for a House of Dragon event on June 21st, but maybe it's something different. Oh, it's probably something different. But this was, they wanted permission for this one, and I don't really get it, but it's my tweet, but then someone quote tweets it that has to do with, okay, so this is what, it says, I'm free, but then what's the thing about?
Starting point is 00:52:41 it mean. Keraxies whenever Damon finally gets the fuck up out of Harun Hell. Oh. Do you know it? Yes. You know the reference? Caraxis is the dragon and Damon has been stuck
Starting point is 00:52:54 having these like weird nightmares and like hasn't really been in the fight. So I think Keraxies is ready to get up in the sky and start going to war. That's kind of what it gives to me. Yeah, they were like, hey, can we're working on the HBO Max social video that includes this tweet. We want to get permission. I was like
Starting point is 00:53:10 yeah, I guess. funny yeah and I was like of course HBO max you're my favorite and like we have another idea for a house of dragon I love house of the dragon I gotta get into it I'm surprised I know I know the you loved game of Thrones and I love the Targaryans it's about Targaryens right oh it's all Targaryen yeah I love that you remember the song she did um I was like call me Daeneris Targaryen when you hit my house up remember that like little like song she did no was it was a proof yeah they did like it Game of Thrones was a musical and it was really Amelia Clark
Starting point is 00:53:41 And they all did their musical number. You never saw that? No. Like the brother-sister duo did a song together, and Tyrion did his little... Oh my God, I'm so good. Anyways, I can't remember. It must have been like Conan or one of those that made them do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 That's what a good. It's like a show or something. Yeah, it was so I love Game of Thrones. I should get into it. Maybe we'll get into that. I feel like we both like Game of Thrones, so maybe we'll get into House of Dragons. Yeah, I really do love House of the Dragon. Season 1, really good.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Season 2 little slower, but season 3 is supposed to pick back up again. And Millie Alcock, who is now Supergirl, was discovered from House of the Dragon. Happy Supergirl Day. You're going to go see it today? Is it today? No. Oh, it's the KFC meal is out today. Supergirl.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I got a notification. It's like KFC Supergirl meal. I think it's like two weeks away, Supergirl. I wonder if it's on post meets a Supergirl meeting me. I just trying to find. I want to see, because I wanted to get the Jason Mamoa dipping sauce. Let's see if it's on. Sometimes it's not.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I'm just trying to find it. Although we have a good food plan after this, but let's see. Sometimes you can't see it on the... Oh, it is there. Look. There's the meal. KS.C. by Supergirl. It's like Blue drinks.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Oh, yeah, that's fun. A tender, a nugget. Okay, work. It's giving like that. I wonder if you can pick what sauce you want. Or you get all the sauces. Oh, let me just click on it real quick. Super nugget meal.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I mean, it looks like everything. Let's see. Not sponsored, but go see Supergirl, guys. We got to support these female superheroes. Yes. I saw the pro and I was like, wait, that's an actress. There's a show Sirens on Netflix. Yes, with the girl from White Lotus.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Gosh, I'm forgetting. Carrie Coon? No, she was the one that was with Theo James in Italy. Wait, your favorite. You love her. I know. You've seen her in a bunch of movies, right? Megan Fahy.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And Julianne Moore is in that. And Kevin Bacon. You watched it, right? Didn't you watch her? I watched that show, and it was really good. Yeah. You haven't watched it? Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, I wanted you to watch it. Oh, where did you watch it? I think you were on tour. Oh. Wait, and who was in it? The Supergirl? Yeah, I thought she was like a small-time actress. I didn't think much of it.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And then suddenly Supergirl was like, oh, that's funny. Yeah. Yeah, she, her first role was House of the Dragon, and then she got sirens. And then how she got cast for Supergirl, how she got cast for Supergirl was when House of the Dragon won a golden globe. She was drinking at the award show. And then she got up and she was all tipsy and, like, couldn't stop giggling. And then James Gunn was like, that's Supergirl, baby. No way. Yeah. Because in Supergirl, it's like she has like a drink.
Starting point is 00:56:08 drinking problems. She's a little, like, washed up. Yeah. And she's trying to get her act together. Ooh. That could be you. Maybe, like, at Pride, someone saw you propose and be like, that's the next lead in a J-Lo movie where she's getting married.
Starting point is 00:56:20 You know what I mean? Office romance, too. Okay. I see it. I see it. That's the kind of everything. That you could just spot it that way. So James Gunn directed this.
Starting point is 00:56:27 He, wait, I think so, actually. Well, I mean, he discovered it. I know. He's directing the second Superman as well. No. director is Craig Gillisby but he's producing it and James Gunn's like producing and overseeing it
Starting point is 00:56:44 um can't be how popular he's gotten he was like the original obsession like director where it was just like this like nobody director for Slither and he was like on my space with like silly hair and I was like okay but then he became so big isn't that crazy yeah it's so weird to think about that
Starting point is 00:56:59 mm-hmm and I think James won oh no he was he did backroom he produced back rooms but I don't think he did obsession Blumhouse did obsession but um wait who jason blom did a like his but you were talking about james juan james wan did backrooms who i know he came up with yeah yeah they're called this platt pack back then because he what did he you have known for saw was that his breakout yes yeah i thought you know all these little horrid i learned a lot after obsession in back rooms i was like let me do a little uh
Starting point is 00:57:27 investigation back rooms is like rooms that you you see like in your dreams or something like that like dark like i saw like okay so i saw like a little boat that was like circling in this like tile room that was tile but it was just like a boat in the middle and circling no backrooms backrooms were always videos of people that like discovered places and they're like places that were just neglected and it just like they sprawl on and on and on and they look very corporate like very not even the empty mall but almost like offices like abandoned so i i remember seeing a lot of videos of people just like and you didn't know if it was real or not like did they actually find a place or not so that's so much the dream mapping because we talked about that the people that used to that go to
Starting point is 00:58:15 the same places in the dreams yeah this is more like just kind of a i think a shared like everyone has a certain concept of those spaces right like so is that what the movie back rooms is about so they made a movie out of that kind of yeah he owns a furniture store and he discovers this like path to the back rooms and then he gets his back blown in the back rooms. Sounds like boring. Do you watch it? Yeah, I watched it. You liked it?
Starting point is 00:58:45 It was Daryan's like favorite movie, he said. Wait, why? What's the twist? What's like so great about it? He just loved how intense and suspenseful and he said it was like his favorite horror movie. What's like the suspense of a background? It's also they found a lot of overlaps of being dead.
Starting point is 00:59:03 than severance. He does love severance. And he like that. Yeah, so it's kind of like it's a, there's an aesthetic. But what's scary about backrooms if you're just wandering around?
Starting point is 00:59:11 It's like an infinite amount of like rooms and spaces and you can't find your way back. You're lost in a maze. That's the movie is you're just lost and you can't find your way back? And there's like monster. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yeah. Okay, so there's like things. There is threats, yes. Oh. Yeah. That makes it a little more scary. I thought I was just like walking around. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:27 There's like creatures or whatever. It's getting stranger things too. It does give a little stranger things. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like upside down. Yes, exactly. Very proud of you for knowing that.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Thank you. Yeah, yeah. I hated it. I was like, this is awful. Who would have watched this? I was like, okay, because I see backrooms discourse all the time. I'm like, what the hell is a back room?
Starting point is 00:59:46 I don't know. Those kind of things are not for me. I don't think. Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was fun. Like I saw it once and I'm good. I like the obsession more for sure. To me with backrooms, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:59:58 girl, just quit going back there. Like, yeah. It's not hard for me. to like save my life by just like not being curious about it. Yeah, like let me just ignore that path to like this devilish dimension. That part. And keep it moving to the life that I know and love. Well, some people have survival instincts of zero.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Or just like nosy. Like you're too nosy, I think. If you're trying to go into this back room and figure out what's back there. Girl, it's a secret for a reason. Like if you can walk through a wall, I think you should just like not investigate it or maybe call scientists or something. Like, keep me out of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Have I ever seen anything? That's like when people say they see ghosts and stuff like that. It's like I just keep my eyes shut. I'm going to go to the bathroom in the night. Yeah, I'm like, I don't want to see nothing. I look down. I'm like, I don't want to see something in the shadows. It's like, just stop looking.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Close your eyes. You immediately rebuke the energy. Rebuk that negative energy. It's just like, don't ask, don't tell. I'm like, if there's a demon. Is that what that means? You do you in the corner over there. I'm just going to keep it moving and go about my life.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I don't need any of this. Go back to sleep. So true. Yeah. Yeah. Or if it's Freddie. Kruker though how do you escape that where he's like in your dreams that is tea also kind of like the black phone tees that also that's another horror movie where like it was connected to dreams
Starting point is 01:01:10 or something so how do you escape that now that's a whole other story where i guess i would have to seek somehow but what about the strangers if they just never open the door or they stay outside that's a great question i guess with the strangers the whole premise of that is like it's uh it could be anyone they have no reason to want to kill you whatever you did nothing wrong or nothing to incite the violence. I think they would just like find their way in. I don't know. I feel like once they choose you.
Starting point is 01:01:40 It's kind of over now. Oh, I thought you just like, they just go on. Like if you're not home. Oh, like if you're not home at all. Yeah. Oh, like when you were a kid, if someone like knocked on your door, did you just like hide? Oh, I do that now as a grown ass adult.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Yeah. If I'm not expecting someone, like literally the only time how to answer the door it was like two weeks ago because the 18T was going around door to door for something, they sell something. And the girls, I didn't have my blinds at that time. So the girls saw me live and in color trying to film my Siki Gad on the damn table. So I couldn't pretend I was gone because literally they saw me through the window filming myself.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Well, you don't have to open it. But they, I'm like, how do I avoid these two girls where like with a clipboard or tablet? Wow. Yeah. I'm like, they saw me live and in color.
Starting point is 01:02:28 But that's like another horror movie with Keanu Reeves. there's like two girls that come to the house. Can we use your phone? And it's like, then they like... Well, I'm going to let the girls in. They were just like, how's the phone service here? I was like, girl, let me check. Do you have any, like, digital?
Starting point is 01:02:42 I do when like, I went upstairs, two other girls came to sell me solar panels. And I didn't come down. I'm like, y'all can just leave the flyer. Yeah, just talk through the thing. Because they do say, people have said TikTok. People, TikTok says, like, you shouldn't be quiet because sometimes if people like want people to be not home, then they'll think, oh, you're not home. you can still be there and be known that you're there
Starting point is 01:03:02 but just like don't open the door you should just be like hey what do you want so they know you're there because some people want empty you know what I mean so we could just say hey what do you want you know what I mean it's like and that's a word two of the three strangers girls
Starting point is 01:03:16 you know it's like don't always trust yeah yeah if I ever was done dirty by a girl after being an ally since literally I popped out the womb I would be hard pressed about that I would be all depressed I'd be all Press. Like I have stood up for the ghost. That's your whole. By your side. Taking down the men
Starting point is 01:03:31 with y'all. And then all of a sudden you took me out? No. I'd be pissed. I'd be hard pressed. You're coming back. Oh, 100%. I take you to the back room, baby. Like, what? Is the back room, like, not superficial. What's that called?
Starting point is 01:03:46 Supernatural. It is kind of given supernatural. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So like only. They didn't really go into the lore in the movie, but the director said probably in the next one, they would go more into the lore of what's even the tea with the back room. Because, like, how did it get there? How can I walk through the wall?
Starting point is 01:04:00 How does it go on for an infinite amount of space? Oh, walking through a wall is crazy. You said that earlier, and I was kind of confused. It was like, do you actually walk through a wall? He literally just, like, walk through a wall and then you literally just, like, walk through a wall. It's like, how did you do that? It's kind of like a wonderland. It is.
Starting point is 01:04:12 It is. Yeah, it does kind of give that tea. Yeah, how do you even discover walking through a wall? Like, run into it. He saw a fly go through it. Oh. And then he was like, oh, I can go through there. And then he, like, taped off where the door was.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Who's the actor in this movie? Anyone famous? He is kind of famous. He's been in a lot of things. Let me see what his name is. Oh, yeah, Chitale, Ejifer. What else has he been in? I've definitely seen him in other stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Okay, yeah, he was in 12 years of slave. He was in Serenity. Oh, he was in the boy who harnessed the wind. So he's been in a few things. Yeah. Oh, and he was in Star Trek. Never saw him? Oh, he was in Venom.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Okay, work. Oh, he's on everything. Yeah, Dr. Strange. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, she's been in a few things. been in a few things. I take it you have not been watching Love Island. I mean, I see the, give me 10, give me 10.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Like I've seen like stuff like that, which is kind of icon. You know what? I kind of get the lore because like my glam loves Love Island. So I get the lore every day on what's happening. Let me give a Love Island from a non-love Island watcher what happened. Oh, the new bombshell entered the villa and every girl was like, you know, wanted to talk to him or whatever. And then the one girl that no one likes was like stole him away.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And they were like, that's not cool because he was talking to the group. And then I think that's the Give Me 10 girl. Because she was like, I don't know, she's like wanted him right away. But that's not how it works. He's supposed to talk to everybody or something. Yeah, T. Well, my favorite part, I'm really behind, to be honest. I did fall behind really quick.
Starting point is 01:05:42 But my favorite part is they introduced in the premiere episode the concept of a thruple. And it was like one girl and two guys. but anyway, now everyone is shipping the two guys, Zach and Bryce. Like all I see is like fan edits of the two of them being shipped as like bisexual kings. And I feel like they need to get a little bit queer on Love Island. Like let's get some queer people in there and let's see some boy on boy. Let's see some girl on girl. Like it needs to be a little bit fierce for next season, I think.
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Starting point is 01:07:26 Zach, bisexual king, bisexual king. His brother Charlie, who was also on Love Island, has been reposting a lot of edits of Zach and Bryce as well. And he said like, no, Zach would think this is fun. Like he would be into this ship or whatever. So I think people are like, oh, is that bisexual king?
Starting point is 01:07:44 Bryce gives straight energy. He a little chopped, but like if he's by and in this like boy and boy-in-boy relationship, I could get into it. Yeah. That's cute. But, like, Like Ava, right?
Starting point is 01:07:53 As soon as you know they're like, well, you're a little more attractive. You know what I mean? No way. Because it's just like, ooh, I don't know. There's that energy. Once you just know, you're like, oh, that energy comes through. And it makes sense for Love Island to get a little queer. Like, come on, let's get into it, you guys.
Starting point is 01:08:08 You think they will ever? You think they'll just like kiss each other, like girls and girls guys. Arneana Maddox has said that she wants more queer people to be cast. And I think that's kind of like the next evolution of it, right? Like how many times can you keep doing this strange? great hetero thing because they keep trying to make it more and more sexual, which like is starting to turn some people off. So I think if you dial back the physical intimacy, force physical intimacy, I should say,
Starting point is 01:08:35 and like just have it be like anything can happen. Like anyone truly can be a couple. That's fun. That's just more fun. Keeps everyone's on their toes a little bit. Yeah. You don't know what to expect. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Wait, how has it getting more sexual? How's it getting more? How's going to be more? challenges are just more like they're like kind of making them kiss and stuff more even like the whole thing with a thruffle it's like the three of them it was one girl and two guys in the bed and she's like trying to choose which
Starting point is 01:08:59 one she wants to have a connection with so she's like making it out with one and then the other guy pops in is like hey like can I get in on this and she's like no and then he just has to like turn over and they're in bed together like it's like it's crazy wait and he was being serious like he wanted to like make out with them
Starting point is 01:09:15 or what I think he wanted to make up with her and he was trying to like getting like Okay, like, can I get in here? I hate the show. Oh, my God, that makes me cringe so hard. It was the cringiest thing of everything of my life. And then, like, he said, he's just, like, in there. He's just stuck in my eye.
Starting point is 01:09:28 And then they're still making out, like, right next to him in bed. Ew. I hate the show so much. I can't. I'm so sorry, guys. I like to keep up the lore. I want to be kind of in it. But I just can't.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Like, everything about it makes me just, like, cringe so hard. I hate it. It's wild. I did see the music video. I never knew what the opening was to Live Island, so I haven't seen, like, the music videos. So everyone's like this would be the best thing ever to see like your ex-just being cringy as They're like if I saw like what an ex-boyfriend on there just being like
Starting point is 01:09:55 Yeah it just being like so corny it's like oh that's probably the best feeling in the whole world Like look at this corny person on this TV The guy specifically girls are cute doing it the guy is doing it you're just like it gives me the ick a lot A wild show I get why it's like a fun thing to watch in the summer because like it's nice to have something to look forward to every way Yeah yeah that's true It is so yes Dastrilly that it's like I respect it I like that people like if I had the time I would watch but I truly have zero time to watch.
Starting point is 01:10:20 We literally haven't watched TV what in like three weeks. We haven't watched until long. It's definitely a commitment. It's definitely for a commitment. And you kind of need to like take notes and stuff to keep up. Like I have to follow a lot of people's charts to say who's with who. Who is with who is with who is with who? It's like a lot of going on.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I get a recap from a girl on TikTok and she always starts by saying she's like lesbian that doesn't have like attraction member like here's my. Do you see her with a notebook? Yes. She's so good at the randoms. It's like Coach Jackie. Yes. Love that queen.
Starting point is 01:10:47 So good. Monarch. So, what did you say the monarch? What does that mean? Like royalty or butterfly? Have you ever seen that meme? It was like, it was when Demi Lavato was referred to with they, them, pronoun. Someone like, yes, queen.
Starting point is 01:11:02 And my, oh, I mean monarch. Oh, I see. Whatever royalty you decide. I love that so much. Monarch, that's good. I never heard that before. But yeah, Love Island. I'm going to try to stick with it, but it is.
Starting point is 01:11:18 a journey, that's for sure. It is definitely a journey. Well, then there's people who like Mimika Parz Ari, who goes between Love Island and Love Island, UK. And everyone I hear likes Love Island UK more. Oh my God, but you're gonna go back and forth between the two? Like how... That is a lot. That's juggling a lot. That's crazy. I can't. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Where do you even watch it? Like, how do I even watch it if I want to go? Oh, Love Island UK? Yeah. Or any Love Island. Love Island's on Peacock. Oh, so she doesn't even more queer. If it has traitors and stuff like that. Oh, you're so right. Yeah. Everyone's streaming. Like, you don't have to play by rules of basic cable like go for it what is the basic cable anymore like who's on basic cable what is the basic cable that's an excellent question
Starting point is 01:11:56 Wheel of Fortune Georgie and Mandy what is that one Big Bang Theory is that still on people like it yeah I think so and there's that new one that's coming the what's his name saves the universe oh my god awful the Big Bang Theory
Starting point is 01:12:12 Nerdy video comic store owner that guy I think so that sounds horrible These shows they come up with Is it all Chuck Lori? Part two, you being asked to do a self-tape next week. I would do it.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Oh my God, I would love that. Okay, just take it back. Chuck Lori, love you actually. Love Mike and Molly. Love 2 and a half men. Was supposed to be on it. Maybe I think I'm blown from Chuck Lori shows, though, because I really do think
Starting point is 01:12:33 because I didn't show up to 2.5 men that day. I feel like I was forever blacklisted. They always said that. Like, central casting, the little, like, extra thing was like, if you don't show up to set, we'll put you on a list that you'll never be casted in a TV show again. And truly, I never did get cast it again in anything. And I was like, wow.
Starting point is 01:12:46 So maybe like, what is that called, like, stature of limitation where it's like, it's expired? Yeah. Because when did I, when did I, I flaked on two and a half men in like 2012 or something? I don't know. It's one of those years. So it's been over like 15 years. I think it should be like 10. 10 because that's like lawsuits.
Starting point is 01:13:03 I don't know if you win a lawsuit like in 10 years. If they didn't pay, then it's like, well, you're out of luck. It's over. Yeah. Same thing with like anything. I think a lot of things, credit, if you have bad credit, falls off after like 10 years. Oh, I don't know if everyone should take that advice. just like you know.
Starting point is 01:13:16 I was like, all right, period. Although then you have like horrible credit all of your 20s and can't do anything. But I was like, love that so much. But maybe that's what happened. Maybe because all of a sudden I got casted in shows again. And I was like, wow, maybe my. Statute of limitations grew up.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Maybe. Maybe I'm not blacklisted anymore. That's pretty cool. Or you know what I think too is like the evolution of life. Like people just die off and they're like the people at Central Cousing. And they just forget. Yeah. They're just like, well, they don't.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Or they retire. I don't know if we should say die off. Right. I meant that. They weren't that. They weren't like literally keeling over. But yeah, they, they move on in life. Oh, more reality TV news.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I guess the latest update on the Taylor-Paul Bachelorette season is that it is aiming, allegedly, for a July or August premiere. I mean, I would watch that. I think that is like my love island for people that are old, I think, right? It is a little bit more manageable as far as like it's not in real time, obviously, as we know. and the time commitment is less for sure yeah um but taylor frankie paul admitted that she cheated um on the winner of her season the day after she came home from the season you didn't see this oh no someone take her social media away right now are we like i'm like really tfp fan i'm really like i'm always
Starting point is 01:14:42 he's benefit the doubt, better for the doubt, but like, girl, what? She confessed, seemingly, I should say, confessed to cheating
Starting point is 01:14:49 on her fiance in a TikTok comment because... What? Well, you talked about Kru Eaton last week who is Dakota Mortensen's roommate. No, I guess he doesn't have a kid.
Starting point is 01:14:59 I said he didn't have a kid. And he's, crew has been going back and forth with like Taylor Frankie Paul after the court hearing which is weird. You're weird. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:09 And then one of the things he called out Taylor Frankie Paul four was getting engaged the winner of her season and then coming home and cheating on him with Dakota the same day and then she commented on the video and was like act it was she said her the exact quote was no the day after so I can't keep defending her I can't I think she deleted the comment later on but girl we all saw it what is wrong like seriously like what I feel like someone like needs to like literally take her phone away and like actually like get her help because like that's insane.
Starting point is 01:15:43 That's like an insane thing. To do, okay, okay, crazy. Like maybe you were going through something, girl, but to like then say it in the comments and like be like, that's the thing. It's like, I don't think she has like any perception of like what's morally right in this world. Like, what do you mean? You cheated a day after.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I mean, this kind of goes back to the Michaela Matthews of it all where she, um, for her co-star obviously and sickerlized Mormon wives who was just kind of saying, look like, yes, I am her friend, but I just cannot keep endorsing the toxic behavior because I think she has just been able, she's been enabled to be like this unfiltered like yeah this is why we love Taylor because she says it like it is like she just she speaks
Starting point is 01:16:18 honestly but like no you're also like a 30 year old adult with children and now like in your 20s yeah like the little tana like messiness or whatever but like we need the character arc of like okay now it's time to like mature and you know kind of end the toxic cycle and come out of the other side
Starting point is 01:16:36 and you got engaged like there's a another person involved too. Like there's so many people involved. Like you said, there's like three children. There's like another human being. There's a bunch of guys that like pause their life to like whatever. And granted like whatever maybe they went like clotted whatever.
Starting point is 01:16:50 But you like got engaged to someone and then you're just going to be like what the like that's. And he was defending her when all the allegation or not even the allegation, but the video came for the first time. I remember in the beginning where he was like he was very much speaking very positively about Taylor. His name is Doug, I think. And he was just like in support of her the whole time.
Starting point is 01:17:09 and she was leaving him like good nice comments and response. So it also was like very demoralizing for him. Yeah. For her to just like be so nonchalant about like, yeah, it was the day after actually. Ew. Ew. Like not a good look on her either. Like that is messy and ugly and the worst person ever.
Starting point is 01:17:28 And now he ruined your life. But like honestly, you ruined your life because you kept doing it. You kept going back to him and he is the worst person. So it's like that's, I think everything's on her now. It's like it's actually all on you. Like you just kept going back and. unless you have like a mental illness that's untreated or a substance abuse problem untreated. Like that's the only thing I could think of.
Starting point is 01:17:46 That could be a reasoning I could kind of understand. This is like insane. Otherwise it's insanity. Otherwise like I really do think she's like an insane person. I think it's a lot of the abuse cycle with Dakota for sure where he has like this hold on her. But again, like you have every resource at your disposal. And at some point it's like I'm like the tough love of it. Again, it goes back to Michaela being like, girl like no, I do love you.
Starting point is 01:18:07 I am rooting for you. But I just can't sit here and like, baby. you and be like, oh, don't worry, everything's going to be okay. Like, you also need to take charge and, like, help yourself, you know? And that's like the only way she will get help is if like everyone, oh, God. That's what's like, I really would love to see this bachelor because I like love her and I want to see it. Like, I like, I loved her. I loved her, like, I loved her, like idea of her online.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And now I'm like, I don't know if I support. But it's like, ah, she gets the show that it is like, and it's enabling again. It's like, oh, people love the drama. See I'm uncancelable and stuff like that. I think it's like the only way to fully is like when you lose everything. You know what I mean? But she just bought her house. So she's like doing fine.
Starting point is 01:18:39 But I think it's like when you hit a rock bottom. But she'll never hit rock bottom because he does kind of gisket passes and championed for so many things. And if it does air, then it's like, well, see, the drama loves me. This is what this is what sells. That's what I always thought like on a smaller scale on YouTube is like, oh, people love the crazy. Like the 2 million views, 3 million views. You're watching me every time I have a meltdown. And I got paid.
Starting point is 01:18:59 And I was like, I love it. And this is what you'll always keep getting. And it goes to a part where it's like too far. Then I just keep doing more and more of it. And then it just is like too far. So I think you have to hit like a. rock bottom of which was like being in debt losing money having nobody like it's like there's rock bottoms and i think that's the only way to go but i don't know if that's happening with her
Starting point is 01:19:15 at all i think it's opposite it's like people are like loving this and she bought a house and she has a season of the bachelorette yeah and that's what i was hoping for like when all the once like her name was kind of cleared with the code like no charge just repressed from like the latest um incident between the two i was like okay this is an opportunity for like really show like the evolution you know like the next chapter but like okay I guess what I kind of thought Like you said I thought that was kind of like the rock bottom And then the next step would be like kind of proving everyone wrong
Starting point is 01:19:43 And showing like this new era like a healed Yeah And that's what I was really hoping Even watching Mormon wives and seeing her go to The Bachelor That's what I was hoping for And then I was annoyed as far And she like was sleeping with Dakota Instead of getting on the plane to go to the show
Starting point is 01:19:58 Yeah Like you literally are ripped You're literally being saved from an abusive situation You're literally being like the universe is literally like We're giving this opportunity With all the male attention you could possibly want with all the money you could want with all the opportunities that are coming from for it. You're going to be a super star.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Like, you're invited to the Oscars. Like, this is the biggest, like, personal and professional opportunity for you. The biggest, she even said that on the carpet. I think I'm the first, like, reality TV started to be invited to, like, the Vanity Fair or Oscars or whatever, like, the Red Carpet or something. Literally on the Oscar right carpet. Yeah. And it's like, damn, like, you are given everything.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Like, oh, my God. If I would have gotten that opportunity and it's like, all you have to do is just, like, leave this abusive situation. I'm like, bye, look at these. Like, you're a star. You're a star. You're transcending. like even for Mormon Wives season one.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I mean, she's always been the star of the show. It's like, what more do you possibly want? And Dakota came in the second season, like, with the receding airline and you're just like, this is what I'm giving it all up for. Like, you lost the custody of your son. Like, it's just like so, I didn't see something else where it said it was like something where she like didn't like, or Dakota said something like in court that like she didn't, she gave up the right to see her son on visitation.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Did you see any of that? I saw a little bit of it and she had like how to clarify like where she was or something. Because she said he was sick. Oh, he had cold sores. So she didn't want to see him. Did you see any of that? Because people were just like, wait, that doesn't make sense. Like, wouldn't you want to be with your kid when they're sick?
Starting point is 01:21:12 First they said it was ill. And then she'd know it was cold soors. So she, like, didn't see him or like Mother's Day or something like that. It was something so weird. I mean, maybe there's more to the story because I just saw that on TikTok. And I was like, that seems so odd to like give up the time with your kid. And then there was another, too, another incident where she cut it short. She like cut the time short.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Okay, yeah. It was during the hearing on June 1st. The judge asked her attorney to explain why some of the supervised visits with ever were cut short. And her attorney said, my client wants every minute she can get whatever. A few of the visits over the past month or so have been cut short or not have taken place. And there are a few reasons for doing so. A recent example was the child was extremely ill with a cold sore breakout. As far as a mother's day visit, that was cut a little bit short because of limited supervisor availability on that day.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Oh. There's just also some difficulties. and challenges in coordinating schedules. Weird. Yeah. Very odd. Also, that guy is a piece of that crew. If you're,
Starting point is 01:22:15 if you are like taking care of this child when he's like, whenever's in your care and stuff like that, it's like, why are you still like going after his mom? Like, you're so weird for that, especially publicly. Like, it makes you look like the shit human being that I also want to want to want to run my kid.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I don't even want, I don't even know these people and I don't want him around the kid because I'm like, you're being so nasty to the mom. Like, I always say that. Like, if you are disrespectful like to the parent, then there's no love for the kid. You can't love a kid or like, you know, look out for the kid's well-being if you're like root to the parent. Like that I think is like the craziest thing.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Like, oh, he like, he's watching my kid but he hates me. No, it doesn't work that way. Like you will hate the kid too. Like it doesn't work. Oh, I love your kid. I just hate your mom. No. That's not how he's going to see my kid.
Starting point is 01:22:51 I hate it so much. Ugh, I hate him. I hate both of that. I hate to go out on him more than anyone. Taylor, I still have a poor of a girl. Like you really like, but that's what I'm saying. Maybe I did unfollow doing my part for the rock bottom. I was like, let me unfollow.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Maybe she'll see that big. Oh no, Trishon, follow me. You know what I mean? I tried. I tried. I was like, I'm trying to do my part, y'all. But I don't want to rock rock bottom because I do think rock bottom is losing your child. I think like losing custody is like the biggest rock bottom where it's like, girl.
Starting point is 01:23:19 And it's like not completely her fault. But it's also just like you're not helping these cases. And I think it starts with the social media. I think someone she needs a PR crisis manager, social media manager to help her like, what is it called? Didn't we know someone that like reevaluates your brand? Remember? An image architect. Yeah, who do we know that?
Starting point is 01:23:36 I don't know who we know. Didn't we talk about that? Image architect. Yeah, like Law Roach is like an art. Oh, yes. She needs an image architect. For real. And it could be so easy.
Starting point is 01:23:46 She's the easiest case. I mean, like, Whitney is such a good example of someone who was like, you know, she had a couple of lapses in judgment in the beginning. And she was kind of like disliked by some of the fans in the beginning. But they like kind of had the. moment of self-reflection to see like, okay, why am I being perceived this way? And then, like, navigated that. It just starts with self-reflection, really.
Starting point is 01:24:09 And, like, you have to, like, look in the mirror. And it's uncomfortable, obviously, like, okay, what am I doing wrong? Yeah. How can I fix this? And then once you do, like, look at it all that Whitney has accomplished. And Connor after, you know, so. And they're very honest about it, too. They're like, I think Connor said when E.T. interviewed him, he was like, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:25 some fans say, like, you know, I always liked you guys from the beginning. And I'm like, I don't think that's true because I was not, likeable in the beginning because I was doing this, this and this wrong, but like, you know, I've been able to come out on the other side, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Like, she needs to kind of have that arc as well, you know. Yeah, and it is so easy. Like, if everyone is being like, I love you, but this is wrong, like, if everyone's saying it, like, don't you think, like, all your friends to, all the people on the show that,
Starting point is 01:24:48 like, you, like, you have to be like, damn, maybe it is me. And it's like, it is hard because you're trying to, like, no, everyone else is wrong, but it's like, no, I don't think everyone else is wrong than this. It's, it's so sad. I do wonder what goes through her mind. I don't know. This is crazy. Like,
Starting point is 01:25:02 that comment was crazy. And why are you even responding to this person, like, in a TikTok comment? Like, get out of the TikTok comments. Like, make your TikToks, make your content. A TikTok comments not paying your bills, that's for sure. Like, a TikTok might be, but. Again, very strides in effect because, like, I never would have seen this, like, video from crew.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Yes. If she didn't comment. That part. No one knew crew before this. And it's like, we keep it that way. Crew is the worst. Ew. Yeah, because then it gets picked up in, like, articles and stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:30 And now everyone knows your team. Yeah, because you commented on it. And then deleting it doesn't work, girl. You had to just keep that comment up. Once you make, even TikToks, like, once you make like maybe a misstep, you're like, you know, why I got to let this ride? Because like sometimes deleting it makes it look more sex. It's like, wait, why was that deleted?
Starting point is 01:25:45 So you're like, all right, we're just going to let this ride. Yeah. And if you like are trying to double back on it, stitch that TikTok baby and say, you know what I was real stupid here. You know what I mean? That's like, that's more weird because the uploads will get you. Like the re-uploads, those look dash really for sure. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Oh, you're right. Just ditch yourself and say, baby, I was real dumb. Like, sorry, y'all, my bad. You could be an image architect. You would be good at that, actually. Let her know. Instead of applying for James, you could apply for Taylor Freaky Ball. Day in the Life of a Mormon wife assistant.
Starting point is 01:26:17 That actually would be really good. That's so funny. Well, there's at least some good relationship news. Happy news. That's great. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding venue revealed. I'm very scared for July 3rd because that is, when their wedding is allegedly taking place.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Who's saying, who said this? It's kind of been published by everyone at this point. Teamsy, page six. I feel like it would have been rebuttal. Like, I feel like we would have heard something if it was like completely wrong. Because like it's just, I've heard from a lot of different avenues that it was July 3rd. Madison Square Garden. At Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Deborah Vancey's. It is exactly. We're like, let's do that. 9-11 and Madison's so much. But that would be T. That's crazy. Is that real? There's no way.
Starting point is 01:27:08 There's no way. At first I was like, girl, what? But T-N-C is usually like pretty on. Are they live streaming? Is she performing? Yeah, no, that's so weird. It's so crazy. Okay, at first when I saw the headline, I was like, oh, not this.
Starting point is 01:27:23 I was like, girl, this is a little tacky. But then I looked at, I actually, when you actually read the article, I was like, oh, this makes sense. because according to like the sources and stuff the big reason why is because there's no windows from the outside you can't have a drone fly over it because it's like okay inside and there's underground parking or underground access so like you the guests won't be paparazzi coming in and out of the wedding venue yeah so actually hearing about it I was like okay yeah this kind of makes sense also like they have money to like dress it up however so like you they they said that
Starting point is 01:27:55 it wouldn't actually look like Madison Square Garden like you're not going to see all, you know, the seats and everything around it. It's not going to look like a basketball court. It's going to be like completely different. And they do plan on having like a thousand wedding guests as well, which makes sense because Taylor had been inviting anybody who crosses her path. 1,000 or thousands? 1,000 is what I heard. Darian was like, oh, I heard you could buy tickets to a wedding. I was like, I'm really scared about how information is being passed around these days. He's like, oh, I saw that on Twitter. I was like, oh, my God. Well, Twitter is the worst.
Starting point is 01:28:27 A billionaire Taylor Swift is hard pressed for money that she needs to sell tickets to the biggest day of her life. Do you tell that? Do you say it like that to Darian? I literally said that. I was like, what sense is that even me? He's like, well, I don't know. It's Madison Square Garden. What's he being serious?
Starting point is 01:28:37 Yes. And then he's swiftly neutral is how he phrases it. So I, we just, I de-escalated the situation because like, you know, my swiftly chip was activated. I was like, let me back down because it was getting low-heeded. He's like, well, it makes sense. She's a billionaire. I was like, okay, whatever. But I digress.
Starting point is 01:28:57 So it didn't make sense once I heard all that. I was like, okay, it'll probably look completely different. Yeah, okay. And yeah, like Travis, between like all his football, his old football team and he also has like a whole bunch of friends, Taylor, literally like when she did the Graham Norton show. She invited everyone who was there with her to her wedding. Like she'd been invited people willing-nily to this wedding. Oh, I didn't get invited. You got invited?
Starting point is 01:29:22 He knows you. She knows you. I know. So far. I don't know, but I moved. So maybe somehow on the move. Do you reach out to her? her person that you know that got you the front tickets for eras no i should tree pain let's get me
Starting point is 01:29:33 on that wedding list for sure yeah but yeah once i saw that i was like okay that makes sense although i mean no it actually does i did question a new a summer in new york wedding i was like oh that sounds like a nightmare but indoor yeah i want to go that sounds so fun and i i i remember like selina so selina and benny's wedding benny was like on a cliff or like the ocean was like behind it specifically so like no one could drive up to the venue you know but they drone it they had helicopters like over the ocean crazy that that's even like legal and duelipa just had her wedding in italy and it was like a similar situation where there's like helicopters and stuff being able to get paparazzi photos so having it be completely inside man that kind of makes sense yeah
Starting point is 01:30:20 wow so that's kind of quick helicopters and drones are the wars because it's also noise it's no pollution to your event because you always hear it It's just somewhere up there in the background. Oh, God, that is annoying. Well, that's great. In that case, that's so smart. Yeah, once I read it, I was like, okay, this does kind of make sense. At first, I was like, oh, my God, like tacky.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Yeah. Like Madison Square Garden. You played this venue before. Yeah. She just went to the basketball game. The one where he was like, pretending to be asleep and stuff, was that Madison Square Gardens. Maybe they were spoken out of the venue or whatever.
Starting point is 01:30:48 I don't know. The energy is weird. Yeah. I was like, but then hearing it was like, okay, okay, I see the vision now. You could sage it out or something like that to get the new energy in there. And then, Page 6 also said some people who were invited and who were not invited. TMZ revealed Carly Klaus did get the invitation and the lore is lost on you, but they
Starting point is 01:31:07 people thought they were a lesbian couple for a really long time. Oh. They were like besties. A lot of people questioned Scissor Sisters question mark. I never thought that, but a lot of people did. And they had a big falling out because Carly, her husband is like in with like the Trumps and stuff. Oh.
Starting point is 01:31:25 And also she's still or was friends with Scooter Braun. Ew. So they kind of had a big falling out. So she's not coming. So, but TMZ saying she surprisingly did get the invitation. How does they know? There's no way unless Carly Klaus is going to TMZ.
Starting point is 01:31:39 There's just no way. That's kind of what it is because she also went to the Eros Tour. Mind you, like everyone who like kind of knew Taylor was like in this big tent and got like a handwritten letter. Even Dave Portnoy's ass getting like in the tent and getting like a hand rent letter. What if he's there? Carly Klaus had a buy ticket. She was up in the Raptors money.
Starting point is 01:31:54 But that was two years ago So maybe Taylor saw that she came to the air storm Like let me reach out to my old friend And also it's kind of like tea like Yeah like look how different Are lives shaped up like here I am On my wedding day and like you know What's Carla Claus's situation?
Starting point is 01:32:10 Everyone hates her Okay So just that come to my wedding So you can see how fabulous I am Honestly I would do that too I guess I'd be like what's how happy my life is Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:32:22 That's good a tea I think she sees it Interesting to see how they structure it because it's almost like a show because there's different tiers of guests. Oh, T. So how they'll, because there'll probably be reception areas for different tier guests and close family. The tables. And then, yeah, so you get assigned to a table. Because not everyone will have full access to her and travel.
Starting point is 01:32:42 What table you want to sit at if you're going to the Taylor wedding? My dream, my dream would be the like Slina Gomez table, but she's allegedly a bridesmaid her and Gigi had her. allegedly bridesmeans. So I don't think I would get to the wedding party table. I'd probably say like Graham Norton. I feel like me and him at that table. He's going? He got an invite.
Starting point is 01:33:02 She literally invited everybody. I'm sure Graham Norton will clear a schedule. It was Jody Turner Smith, Greta Lee, Domhall Gleason, and Oppenheimer. What's his name? No idea. I don't know any of those people who just mentioned. Are they all famous?
Starting point is 01:33:20 I have never even heard those names. No offense. because, I don't know, but that's crazy. And she used to want to come, and they're like, okay. Yeah. Were they all British? No, no. No.
Starting point is 01:33:30 You know those names off the top of your head. Because I remember Killinghamer, sorry. Apollies. He played Oppenheimer. In the, from Barbenheimer fame. Got it. Okay. I just remember very vividly.
Starting point is 01:33:43 But, yeah. Because I remember being gagged. I was like, girl, anyone can go to this thing? But you know you just say that. Like, y'all should come, and then you don't give him the invite. But she was also like, you guys should be in my music video. And she like went and did that. So she's a woman of her word.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Okay, I love that. She'd be at the Graham Norton table. Who would I be? Who's the Taylor friend that I would like? Oh, Suki Waterhouse and Robert Pattinson. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's my girl. They are in the on invite list and I feel like that would make sense to you guys.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Yeah, would absolutely love that. And then Zoe Kravitz and Ed Sheeran and Cara DeLivine are also invited. Is Harry Cohen? Well, the gag is Harry Stiles has a show on July 3rd. So Zoe's going to go solo. Yeah. Massage probably have to go so low. Is this the Amsterdam one?
Starting point is 01:34:25 Or maybe it's even the New York one. Doesn't he do Madison Square Garden? Isn't that where he performs? Okay, T. No, he's not in New York until, yeah, you're show right, you're so right. So he's probably still Amsterdam. Yeah, he's in Madison Square Garden in September. Oh, yeah, and also why people think it is true is because mysteriously, that whole, from the 2nd to July 2nd to 7th, there's nothing at Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Like, it's completely cleared for that. Which makes sense for. Rare. Yeah. Wow. You tried looking at. Yeah. Would love.
Starting point is 01:34:57 How do I get there? How do I go? Wait, this is going to be so fun to see. Oh my God. I can't wait to see. Oh, and then the not invited list so far that we know is Miles Teller and Kelly Teller. What happened with them? There was some kind of falling out, but no one knows why exactly.
Starting point is 01:35:12 But she was really, really close with them. Like Miles was in her music video. Kelly Teller went with her to the Golden Globes like two years ago. but mysteriously they had a falling out. Maybe someone cheated by something. Because like why do you fall with the whole couple? Or maybe if that's the one, remember I told you that Miles Teller with the Strides in effect?
Starting point is 01:35:33 He like talked about why he doesn't do profiles anymore or interviews anymore because one, our journalists like described how big of a debag he was. Oh, right. He wouldn't cut his own stake. But that's why I stopped being friends with him? Maybe he was like that in person. He was like, I'm kind of sick of your antics. Like I thought it was cute out for us, but like you really won't cut your own steak.
Starting point is 01:35:49 We could still be friends with Kelly if Miles is. the asshole. I think they're just too close. Okay. Or like a package deal. This is just me speculating, but that's kind of really good sense to me. I guess so. But here's hoping I will be in New York on July 3rd.
Starting point is 01:36:04 You think you'll still might get an invite? I held that hope to Britney's wedding in like the very last day. I was like, maybe, maybe you never know. You never know. You never know. It's a big venue so like there's room, you know. Yeah, what's one more? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Like, I won't eat much. So. You're like, you don't have to put a table out for me. Just we'll be in the background. Yeah. You'll be the back room, baby. I'll take the back rooms. Just to be there.
Starting point is 01:36:27 Well, there's probably paparazzi going to be outside. I guess, but they are not going to be out on that street. I really don't think so. The people. Yeah, any of the guests and stuff. They'll probably just take pictures of the cars going in. Outside. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Yeah. I'm scared about working that week. Because also it's like the holiday. I don't be worried about myself. But, yeah. Well, you're not going to worry about Taylor Swift that much. You know what I mean? I always think that's funny when people say, like,
Starting point is 01:36:55 oh, you're only worried about yourself. It's like, well, yeah, I don't, I don't know, Britney Spirit. You know what I mean? Like, of course I'm worried about me. Like, how it affects me. It's like, that's what you worry about. You worry about number one, you know?
Starting point is 01:37:04 You can't worry about anyone else. And yeah, that is going to be crazy, especially if you're the resident Swifty. They're going to be like you're going to get all this footage. I know. And it's like, I just want to like enjoy it. Enjoy it. I want to enjoy my sister's big day.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Do you work on Fourth of July? I think I have it all. I am supposed to work Saturdays and Fourth of July is a Saturday, but I think I have that day off. But they might activate me for July 3rd. Isn't it a federal holiday night? Isn't everyone supposed to get off Fourth of July? Yeah. But there's exceptions, I guess.
Starting point is 01:37:29 I don't know. They need to pay more. That's what's crazy about salary job is like they just expect you to work holidays and not give you more. Very that. Seems illegal. Like literally, like it's a federal holiday. Like you're not supposed to work. Preaching to the choir, baby.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Tell me about it. I guess no one just does anything. I guess they're just like, all right. Yeah. It's like, okay, well, at least I'm employed. That's kind of the energy. Yeah. A part.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Yeah. Have you seen any of the concert discourse that has gone around lately? There's two concerts I would love to speak about. But the first one is your favorite artist, Phoebe Bridgers? Love her. I do, right? We talked about her. Oh, you know her?
Starting point is 01:38:04 I don't know. We've talked about it before. What's a song? I think I like her. She used to date Palm Mescal. Okay. Right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:14 She used to date Paul Mescal. Okay. So I think we've talked about her in that context. Phoebe Bridgers. Yeah, she's kind of like, uh, I don't know what I'm going to say indie art? It kind of like a quirky. Singer songwriter T's. Your face is giving quirky.
Starting point is 01:38:25 It's kind of, she's kind of quirky. Okay. Singer songwriter, she gives that tease. Well, she just announced her concert and it is completely phone free and it has sparked a lot of discourse amongst her fans. Yeah, that's the worst idea. What do you mean? Why would you do that?
Starting point is 01:38:43 Why? So you live in the moment in art, like, trying to record everything. I think it's kind of like counterculture. Like, some concerts have become such a social media spectacle, a la Chris Olson going live at the Aeros Tour and the Internal Sunshine Tour. Oh, they hate that? I think some artists do, especially it's like if it's a smaller venue and stuff, does it kind of kill the vibe? Maybe, I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:05 And also the music is so different. Like, it's not like pop spectacle. It's like a girl in her guitar tease, you know? So it's kind of more intimate vibes. So I think that's why. But it has sparked so much discourse that it is. kind of nuts. What are people saying? So how it's going to work is your phones will have to be put into, and smart watches, will have to be put into a yonder pouch, which is one of the
Starting point is 01:39:28 pouches that just like completely blocks out your phone and we'll get, you can't unzip it or whatever, like it has to be unlocked by a device by security. And, oh, what? No. So it's locked up in a little pouch. And then when you leave, it'll get unlocked so you get access to it again. They do that at some events too. Like a lot of live events where they don't want it like spoil. Like if or not live events, sorry, but like pre-recorded events or award shows like you put it in a pouch so you can't
Starting point is 01:39:54 film and leak anything. Oh my God. What if you have kids? What if you have like people who need you? Like that's so weird. An emergency. What if you need an emergency what if you're having an heart attack like we're going to fall? Like well that is so up. Like that's literally a lifeline. That's so weird. Put a tape over it or some shit like I need my phone attacks like.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Yeah. So that's kind of why. That's actually so crazy. We had an emergency ones when we we were going to go see Wicked and there was like emergency and we had to leave literally in the second song. We went to the front row and I just remember like if we didn't have our phone and we were like that was 10 minutes into the show like that would have been the most insane thing to ever happen. Like what that's that's weird. I think that should be illegal.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Right. Well, it's like you're you're buying a ticket knowing that that's the case. In that case they should be like, okay, if you post you're going to get fine $10,000. If we see you take it out, okay, you'll get you'll be removed. Like there's other things you can do than just taking someone's phone. away. That's weird. I don't like the idea of it being locked and you have to like ask permission to unlock it. That seems like actually like weird. That seems illegal but okay. And then some fans have raised concerns about accessibility as well. Like if your phone doubles as a monitoring
Starting point is 01:40:58 device for like diabetes or epilepsy or something. Oh right. That part. It became like abelism. Especially the watch. I mean the watch literally does this. Yeah. But an official statement from Phoebe's team confirms that there's medical exemptions. So like if you do need your device for medical reasons they will obviously grant you and be compliant with like the ADA for that for any disabled concert goers and other fans have argued that it's
Starting point is 01:41:28 classic to not allow recordings because not everyone can like afford a ticket to a concert and that's how kind of people are able to experience it like it was very popular with Ariana this weekend with the Eternal Sunshine Tour like a lot of people were live for it so then some people are like okay well it excludes the fans who like still want to see the concert but can't
Starting point is 01:41:45 because now no one will be able to record it. Yeah, I kind of get that argument. I mean, I guess it's like, that's not her like responsibility, but it's like you said like the Ariana that they sold out so quickly. It's like, why wouldn't she want I love, I love when people record my songs because it is. It's like why wouldn't you want other people
Starting point is 01:42:02 to like experience? I want to experience it when I get home. I want to watch it. You know, I love watching myself. I love seeing myself from every angle when I did the word at Alba Hall. You get all these great angles. You get this like, well yeah, why wouldn't you want that? Then more people get to see your music. The people were going to come are going to come like no one's going to be like I'd rather watch this on live it's like the people who want to watch it on live watching it live people want to go for the experience
Starting point is 01:42:20 will always go for the experience you know what I mean like there's no there's no there's no I don't think there's any sort of like it's not going to hurt you monetarily speaking unless you're just a boring artist to watch live or something but I think it's more so like the vibes of like everyone just holding their phone and not this is 226 we're not in the 1800s babe like you know what I mean like that's that's where we're at that's what do you mean that's what do you mean That is, that's it, this is the world. In 30 years, it's AI robots taken over. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:42:48 That's just what the way is. I don't love it, but it's going to happen. And that's it. You just adjust. It's not a comedy show. Like if you have a set and that's all you have and somebody leaks the jokes, then it's gone. Here it's like, because you start yourself. Like shows, you actually change the set.
Starting point is 01:43:03 You change the song. Sometimes you move things around. And I'm like, if you see a show and you get excited about it, you want to go see it. It's also just the experience. She just want to be in the room with people. You want to hear the songs. Like you just, because there's people, the Ariana. She's in those big arenas and whatever.
Starting point is 01:43:14 They're like way in the back. And it's like, yeah, you're not like seeing up close or anything, but you're just like vibing. You're just there to vibe with everybody. Like people who want to go vibe are going to go vibe. And the people who want to watch it live are going to watch it live. And yeah, there's people who can't afford it. So it's like, well, damn, yeah, like let's live stream it, baby.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Like, I don't get the issue. I don't really get the issue. Like, that's actually so weird, right? Is she young or old? She's younger. Oh. So what's her logic? She's just like, I don't want to live in the world where there's phones?
Starting point is 01:43:39 I, she's 31. So I this is just me speculating I don't know if you use music that well, but it is very like intimate Setting and she's like a more like indie I don't know she like singer song writer T's so that's kind of what made me think like oh she probably just wants it to be like very intimate Not for people to be Like not filming themselves or like the face times and everything you know just like I'm like be living in the moment and experiencing the music That's kind of what it gives me I maybe it's just because I'm impartial because I'm not like a Phoebe
Starting point is 01:44:12 Stan who wanted to go to the concert I'm trying to think if like what would be the equivalent because you have to create that environment like this is it Lily Ellen yeah yeah like when we went to that show you didn't notice people on their phones like the show was so like intimate and so captivating and people was just there you know well I mean there was a lot of people on their phones had five angles to me as Madeline right well that moment of course but I'm just saying it It's not, it didn't interfere. Like you didn't have people in your face with phone.
Starting point is 01:44:42 There were no face timing. There were not like it was, the audience were captivated. People would be saying all the time at my show zone. It doesn't ruin it. It's like, it's like, I just don't get it. If that's the atmosphere you want to create, if you are successful,
Starting point is 01:44:54 you will create that atmosphere and people will respect it. And if you're not, they won't. But I guess that part too. I guess you could tell your fans like canceled, right? It's like you guys don't record this part. And then it's like people do where they don't. And for the most part, I feel like canceled did keep it like underwrapped,
Starting point is 01:45:06 right? Like maybe a couple weeks got out. But for the most part, the fans just like, listen, like, don't record this part. So it's like, the majority of people would probably respect it. If you're like, hey, put your phones down. Let's help me in the moment. Some hippie stuff. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:45:19 Right? It's giving like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know her vibe. And like, no, no disrespect towards her. Like, love that for you. And if your fans would respect you, though, that probably listen. But I don't think we need to like have four knocks up in here.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Like getting our phones. Like, what if I need to talk to my kids? Like, that's so weird. I don't. Yeah, the watch parties is for me where it's like, I would never. If we went to a place and you can have your phone and we're both together, it's like obviously it's happened once that like a wicked, you know, where it's like if we didn't leave, it would have been bad.
Starting point is 01:45:45 So that's weird. I don't know. Maybe, um, and she needs to rethink this somehow. Tape it, security, kick him out, find them. Ask your fans politely to not do it. Yeah. Like I think of the Meggala, I think, emphasis on I think.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Because I remember seeing a photo of Tate McCray, like from the, like, those photographers inside of the Metgala. And she had something that was like, covering the lens of her camera. So I thought that that was kind of a key for some events where they put something to cover camera lenses. Like maybe that's like a better alternative maybe? A thousand percent do that.
Starting point is 01:46:19 That really used it. Some of that's like different because you have people that have five assistants waiting outside and one of them will have your phone. And like you have communication to the world and somebody can just walk and get you out if you need. Because there's celebrities that have connections. You have an emergency. But here it's just a crowd of people and people do get hurt and things happen.
Starting point is 01:46:37 We're in the venue too. if something happens and breaks out, like, don't you want to, like, call for help? Like, I don't know. It just seems, and like, yeah, there could be, but sometimes those security is not that great. So it's like, kind of odd. I don't know. To bring back pagers and work. What's that going to do?
Starting point is 01:46:49 What are you going to page somebody help? Right? It's only someone pages you. Oh, I see. Like, something watching your kids. Maybe it's panic about it. Life Alert. Yes.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Oh, I do love those. I used to love those commercials. I thought that is a good idea that whoever invented Life Alert, if you fall over and you can push a button, that's pretty everything, actually. That's kind of smart. Um, is anyone happy about it? Is anyone like, we love this? Some people are, you know what's funny is I think older fans, like millennials and potentially
Starting point is 01:47:16 boomers, I guess, are like, yeah, that's a great idea because it kind of brings you back to like the heyday for us. But a lot of Gen Zers are like upset about it and I've been causing a lot of discourse. Like, what if I'm kidnapped? What if I, like, I'm disabled? Like, what if I need it? Well, all that's valid. See, because people are making fun of the people who are like,
Starting point is 01:47:36 okay, you're not going to get, there's not going to be a mask kidnapping out. Really? Watch that M. Night Shyamalan movie with Josh Hartnett. Trap? That's how she survived. The singer, actually. So this lady needs to be thankful because that lady survived from the Instagram live of it all. So she is not watching enough movies.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Yeah. So that is happening, actually. That is crazy. This is a crazy story. It's caused so much discourse. It started on Twitter now with an infiltrated TikTok. It makes me mad, actually. I honestly was like really neutral about it.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Again, I think it for me, because I'm kind of unaffected as I was not planning on going the Phoebe Bridgers concert. But God, I guess because also every like artist I'm excited to see live is like a social media girl. Like obviously cat's eye like they got big because of social media. So that makes sense for them. Eros tour obviously became a phenomenon because of the TikTok lives. I got to experience Eternal Sunshine because.
Starting point is 01:48:35 because of the TikTok live? Like literally the first thing I opened and it's Chris Olson live. Like stable as how. I don't know if he got a monopod or tripod or something. It was stable. Connection was good. He got that Starlink or something.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Like connection was great. Starlink is so good. He was like hooked up. Like I know Chris Olson is going to be going every Ariana stop or something. Is he? Who's the other? Oh, Taylor Swift he's a fan of right?
Starting point is 01:48:59 That's another one he did. He was all over the place. Like going live and that was the closest thing. to say the least yeah doing a little much I mean love it love the passion but maybe
Starting point is 01:49:10 you know what actually do it I would love if everyone came to one of my shows every day that's actually kind of fun yeah that's kind of cool Chris doesn't come to mind and do that life
Starting point is 01:49:17 I would love it actually it's kind of fun just kidding well Megan's tour is not happening so he's open Megan oh okay she's
Starting point is 01:49:26 you know the ball me wearing a ball off gets me a little shady I know damn well yeah Ariana's tour also kicked off this weekend and also caused so much commotion. I, there's so many layers to this.
Starting point is 01:49:45 Okay, the first layer is, I think in general, it's the first time she's toured in like six or seven, six or seven years. And I remember, God, it was a sweetener tour. That's the last time I saw her. And I went with Daniel Prada and he went kind of diabolical because he's already a tall man, but he went in drag as Ariana. And we were in the, fin of being the pit. Oh.
Starting point is 01:50:09 So damn, I'm sure everyone was pissed at in retrospect. People must have been so pissed on because he's so big. Yeah. He was in his like Ariana boots, like the, you know, the infamous like knee high.
Starting point is 01:50:19 No. So he's even taller. He had a big ass wig. No. Oh. As a wig wearing girly, let's leave those wigs at home. There's nothing worse than getting blocked by a wig.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Unless you need it, of course. It's medically needed. Of course. Yes. But if word is doing it for cute. including someone who loves a cutesy wig. Let's leave the wig at home.
Starting point is 01:50:36 Or at least you know what a sensible. Sensible. This was like volume. Yeah, give a bust down maybe. Yeah, the volume is. Hi pony. Oh no. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:45 I mean, he ate the look up, but it was wild. It was a you two? Yeah. And then Gaget, he was texting Colleen being like, hey, can we go meet Ariana or something? Oh. No reply. Work.
Starting point is 01:51:00 I don't think Colleen was meeting Ariana back then, six, seven years. Maybe, maybe, I don't know. I'm not trying to be shady. Sorry. Oh, my God. Well, this was when she was in Thank you next. So it was that era. Were they all getting the invite, though,
Starting point is 01:51:11 just because they were in Thank you next? Yeah, sure. Got to reach out to Gabby D. Martino to see what the T is there. But some people were mad because actually she didn't do any Sweetener songs. And, like, Sweetener is one of her beloved albums. What's the big song from there? That's kind of the P. Davidson era. It was like, no tears, let's cry.
Starting point is 01:51:29 The light is coming to get back everything in the darkness school. I believe God is a woman. I think I know that one. Yes. Okay, work. Yeah. I love no tears left to cry, actually. But.
Starting point is 01:51:41 What's the weekend song I like with her? Which one? They do a song together. They have like three songs together. Why am I blinking? I think a lot of them are for his album, though. Oh. I always like when they do it.
Starting point is 01:51:53 I can't think I know. I know me either. That's why I think I like her, hate that I made you love me, though, because it does clip kind of like weekend tease to me with like the darker. production and vocals. But anyway,
Starting point is 01:52:06 I thought she sounded great. I love the visual. I did get instant promo because the production looked really good. I understood why she didn't do stadiums and why she kept it in arena tour because of how the set design
Starting point is 01:52:18 and the sound design was. I was like, oh, this does make sense. People really wanted her to do stadiums so more people could get tickets, obviously. Right. But. Let me do it. Yeah, stadium seems very intimidating.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Like, how are you going to entertain people all the way in the back? That sounds so hard. Yeah, because you would have to just like completely redesigned the stage. And obviously like Harry Styles, for example, like he did a stadium tour in Amsterdam and people were like, girl, this should have been in an arena. Because it was just like, it's so much stage that you have to figure out how to map it out
Starting point is 01:52:46 and use. Yeah. And the runtime was like an hour and a half to a little bit under two hours. And then some fans were like upset about that. Wait, why? I think they wanted it longer. But I think people need a managed, manage expectations quote. But for real, because, like, Aresor, it's like a stadium show, and it was, like, marketed as you experience every Taylor Swift era.
Starting point is 01:53:11 But, like, it's a normal, like, Sabrina Carpenter's an hour and a half, like, Olivia, like, it's, like, the normal runtime, you know? So I think people. I think that's, like, the perfect runtime. I always say Lillian's 55 minute show was great. I love that. Mine I always try and do, like, an hour and a half, too, but I love an hour 10 because I just think it's, like, you get. I get it. I guess you just want to, like, experience it.
Starting point is 01:53:31 But even us personally going to a show, like, sometimes it's a little long. Like a two-hour show is, like, long for me. I love, I don't know, I guess it just depends your age. I do love an hour of 10 for me if I watch a show. Like, Donnie's like an hour of 15 or something. It's great. Sometimes it's just too long. Especially when they perform songs you don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:47 And you're just like, oh, okay, let's hear the hits. You know what I mean? Two hours is too long. Taylor's three for eras, but. Way too long. Unnecessarily. I mean, I guess people love it. I would love it.
Starting point is 01:54:00 I was living, yeah. For all three hours. Are you standing or sitting this time? I kind of took my cues. Like there's like the inner sitchels when they play the videos like, okay, let me sit. And then some of the slower songs like on folklore special, I'm like, okay, this is a time to sit. But everything else, a little, I was giving a little one to you. I was doing a little thing, a little shake it off, a little style.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Oh, on my feet. On your feet. People are on my feet their whole time on my show and that's what I love. Because I think it's like the minute you sit, it's like. you lose the momentum. I don't know. That's me personally. Maybe I never into a day
Starting point is 01:54:34 a show, so I don't know. Maybe I need to feel it. But even like my favorite person, like Donnie, I think an hour 10 is good. Yeah, people want a more R.E for sure. I think also because it's been so long since she tore. Yeah, give her a braced. I get that stamina up.
Starting point is 01:54:46 It's like she's in those eight inch heels. Like she can't be just galloping around for that long. I did like her beaming up at the end. That was, you can do that. That was my favorite part. Love it. When that's how she ends her show, she just like beams up.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Kind of recreates the Eternal Sunshine Deluxe. the Lux cover and it looked so pretty. I was like, oh my God. I did have FOMO. Like, I didn't even try to get the tickets because it was a blood bath. Like, it was impossible. And they kept doing like a couple of resells for like partial view seats and stuff. And I'm like, girl, this is just like impossible.
Starting point is 01:55:15 It's just impossible. Yeah. But, and she's like the artist I've seen the most. I've seen her in almost every era. Wait, really? I've seen her. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:24 I didn't really realize until I started counting. I was like, wait, because I didn't see yours truly. But I did see, no, I didn't see my everything. I saw yours truly dangerous woman sweetener And I saw her She did a lot of jingle balls Back in the day
Starting point is 01:55:36 And like a lot of wango tango Tangoes jingle balls Love that And I always see her at those You have to go You have to go then If you've always seen her It's just like kind of impossible team
Starting point is 01:55:45 It really is It's not we can go on C geek right now Where's that sick You just got sponsored twice by C geek It's like her tickets are Blood Like what? Like what is the minimum ticket
Starting point is 01:55:55 I think a couple thousand Right now Okay we can get We can get Arriana tickets You have to go Is she in LA already? Has she already been here? No, I think she's coming soon.
Starting point is 01:56:02 She's in Oakland right now. Oh, so she must be like, oh, wait, you have to go. And she's doing a few days, but yeah. I'm going to force you to go. When is it? We got to get tickets. Watch it's a Vegas show. Yeah, you need to go on live stream it so we can see it too.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Yeah, go live streaming. Go live streaming. Just kidding. Me like taking Chris Olson's Starling. Yeah. He'd be like, wait a minute. That's my nachos. Oh, T.
Starting point is 01:56:25 She is here on 13? No. Okay. We'll be back then. 13, 14, 17. No, you have to go. No, she's a lot, actually, okay. Would you go?
Starting point is 01:56:35 Maybe. Okay, where are you taking a ticket? You have to go? You have to be seen her like every time. That's so fun. Saturday? Yeah, I have she, like almost every era. Well, I guess we talk about after some.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Why mean, you don't care. She's going. We gotta go. That's fun. Oh, no, that's kind of expensive. Yeah, and it looks like a good show. But, yeah, it's caused so much discourse, though. And, I,
Starting point is 01:57:03 I feel like, I feel like people are kind of lost, people have not been able to talk about the way she looks, like, with nuance. Because everyone has, like, been commenting so much on her, like, appearance in her body. And it's like, okay, I understand it a little bit. Like, you want to, like, let people know that, like, hey, this doesn't have to be, like, thin spow or whatever. Like, you want to let people know, like, maybe don't attain to look like this or whatever and kind of set that precedent.
Starting point is 01:57:30 But you also don't want to, like, infringe upon her, like, bodily autonomy and like her health and even if she is going through something health-wise like the more you bring attention to it like there's potentially the worst it could get as well yeah and don't people sometimes too like if you tell them oh my god you look sick it's like they love it like you know a lot of people yeah a lot of people who suffer from different eds it's like that's like that's like a lot of people who are like recovering or have like commented about it it's like hey like if you bring more attention to this and you make a big deal out about this like it could also just make any kind of if she is sick make something worse but like
Starting point is 01:58:03 It gets a little... It's hard to find, like, the nuance because, like, yes, like, you don't want to have, like, girls be like, oh, like, I have to look like this, obviously, but you also don't want like infringed upon her health and her... Yeah, I think the hot take is you don't have to let people know this is not okay. Like, I think people know.
Starting point is 01:58:19 I think people like, not, not Ariana, but I just think in general, people will know if someone is too skinny, just in general, like a Kelly Osborne, obviously, like, Eugene and Cuny, like, you kind of don't have to say it when it's so obvious. Like, if someone had such an extreme weight loss or such an extreme weight gain, Like you said, it's just like, my hot take is like, you don't understand anything because we see it.
Starting point is 01:58:36 You know what I mean? Like, we can see what her body looks like. We can see when someone gained a lot of weight. Like we just see it. And I think it's like, yeah, I don't. Like you said, it just helps nobody. And it's like, I get like when you said the argument of like people like, oh, you shouldn't let them know. Like it shouldn't be this.
Starting point is 01:58:50 I think people like they get it. I know what you mean. It's but people, it's other people who are also sick with that same thing, right? It's also things that they need to be that thin. It's not. I just think no one should comment on it. I mean, we get it. We see it. Everyone sees it. I don't know. What's it? Who's it helping? I guess, like, little girls, but I don't know. I think that's also like the parents' job, right? Like, if my daughters are ever like, I need to be skinny. I'm like, where did you hear that? Like, who did you see that with? You know what I mean? I think it's like not really. Like, we don't need to put it out there on blast. Because it is affecting Ariana. People who are like Ariana. Like, oh, that's so crazy. I don't know. I hate to hate the discourse of it. Because I did see, too, they had like a plus size dancer next to her. Oh, yeah. And everyone's like her fatsbow or something. And I'm like, that's so crazy. too. Like, it's just crazy to accuse that of Ariana of the tour, of the dancer. Like, now the dancer
Starting point is 01:59:37 here is that, like, it's just such a really weird thing. And it's like, everyone's just comment on everyone's body. And it's just, like, annoyingly, come on your own body if you want. Like, comment on what's going on. You know, we're always commenting on our own bodies. But it's like, I just would never and could ever. And it hurts. It helps nobody. It helps nobody. I don't even know about body checking and fat spell literally until I did the, whatever, like a while ago, a podcast I did. And they were like, oh, like, she's body checking. I never knew what that even meant. And that was like 30 something years old
Starting point is 02:00:05 when that happened. I was like, people are just so, I don't know, it doesn't help. None of it helps. It's all weird. And, you know, like you said, if she's going through something, it's not going to help.
Starting point is 02:00:15 If she's not going through something, she's like, well, this sucks. This is my body. We all see, we all see, we all see waking and wait-hust. Yeah, that's fair. And also, like, she literally opens the tour with yes, Anne.
Starting point is 02:00:24 And it was like, please do not comment on my body. Do not reply. And that's like, oh. Is that what the lyrics are? Yeah, that's like the bridge. and it's like, oh, okay. So, yeah, it's like... And people still do it.
Starting point is 02:00:35 And it's, yeah, it's like so hard to have a nuanced conversation about it. And I think a lot of the times, too, people kind of get on like the moral high ground of like, oh, but I'm just concerned. But like, they should be like, say like the most, like, hurtful and hateful things. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:48 And also I was thinking about it too. And obviously, yes, I am biased and partial because I love Ariana. But everyone always like looks out with child stars when they're like at the rock bottom. Like Amanda Bindens when she's like at the worst time of her life, Like we need to protect child stars. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Girl, Ariana Grande is a child star. So, and has gone through like so much trauma publicly. Literally was like at the scene of a terrorist attack. She's very vocal about all the trauma. She's endured. So like,
Starting point is 02:01:16 why can't we be a little bit nicer to her? You know, like. Yeah, it's always like protect them until like something happens. And it's like, well, you all bullied them.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Like in so many different ways. And the whole guys are like, I'm worried about you. It doesn't help. Like if you're worried it. That's not helping. And that also doesn't mean like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:30 She's not like a perfect person, obviously. Like people always bring that up to, well, she's, she's like, takes people's partners or whatever. Everyone kind of sees morality in black and white, but it is such a gray scale. Yeah. It all kind of comes back to Ivy Woke, your favorite person because she kind of talked about like how, because she also, like, she's made jokes that were, like, offensive and stuff. And she's like, this is, like, I was like 17 and people still use this against me. And she's like, I feel like a lot of people have little cops in their brain where they, like, love to, like, exercise and abuse, like, their power and, like, lock you up.
Starting point is 02:02:00 forever because of a mistake or something that, like, you don't stand by. And she's like, but like, I also know that I'm like a good person, which is kind of T.E. You can kind of see someone's character. And I feel like she's just like, you can tell she's just like not a bad person. It's like, you know, I might too. I feel like, you know I definitely did something crazy shit. Like in my core, I know my good person. That's what keeps me going, right?
Starting point is 02:02:18 It's like if I thought I was like this like person, I would probably like go high to or like just, you know, not take accountability or something. But it's like, if you're a good person, you just like try and do your best and get through. I said some stupid things or whatever. and you kind of, but you just couldn't just tell, right? Because that's the other thing, too. Sometimes people are like, well, we canceled this person for this, but not this person for this. And it's like, well, let's look at, like, pattern of behaviors.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Let's look at, like, accountability and, like, who is actually, I don't know. There's just, like, an energy you get from someone that's like, that person doesn't seem like a good person as opposed to like, oh, that person keeps, like a Taylor Frankie Paul. Like, she makes a lot of bad choices. It's like, girl, what? But I do feel like she's kind of, she's like good. Like, she's like good intent.
Starting point is 02:02:54 You know what I mean? I feel like she has, like, some goodness to her. we saw it pre-Dakota so I think it's like you just see that and then you just some people are just like nasty little witches you know what I mean not very many but you do see it sometimes and you're just like oh that person it's not trying to think well speaking of nasty little witch what an excellent transition oh no well let's okay I didn't I don't know I don't know what we're transitioning to well okay you see I'm related I'm sure um Adam Heconsire said that there, he got approached to do a documentary
Starting point is 02:03:29 by a big production company on Colleen. I know, and I did see this only because so many people were like, is it Trisha? And I was like, what? Did you not see that? No! In chat, because he's like, I can't believe this person's involved. I was like, what?
Starting point is 02:03:43 And I was, and everyone's like, it's Trisha, it's Trisha. Not me. I'm not doing it, I'm not involved with it. I've never been asked, I don't know what this is, like, not me. I didn't know that was happening. Oh, I thought it was a little chat, because I saw a clip of it and like the chat was going
Starting point is 02:03:55 And it's your first documentary. That is, oh, my God. No, please no. Like what? No, that's crazy. Oh, my God. That is crazy. That is crazy.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Yeah, that is. So interesting. Yeah, he talked about it on Twitch. He was like he got approached by a big production company that did not find a distributor yet, like, as far as like a streaming platform or network or whatever, but it was in production. And it was going to be a documentary about Colleen and they were reaching out to like anyone who was like affected, I guess or victims or whatever. and he turned it down because he was like, listen,
Starting point is 02:04:28 like we already kind of had like the swoop documentary. He's like there's kind of like no new ground or new earth to like uncover here. But the production company was telling him like, no, like it's going to be very different from like a YouTube documentary or whatever. A little bit of swoop shade, I fear. Yeah, Adam was pissed. He's like, I do not stand that swoop disrespect. I was like, yes, okay, coming in.
Starting point is 02:04:48 As she was. Yeah, and she was the timing of it. We needed it. Yeah. Yeah. Where were you three years ago? Like, yeah, like what Adam's. it's like this is 2026.
Starting point is 02:04:57 I don't care and does anyone care about this? It's like. Yeah. And like it was like nice to hear him say like does she even like deserve this anymore? Like listen like we've all are just kind of like moving on. It kind of just like retramatized a lot of people. I could see it if it was like there was like a this is again talking hypothetically. Like if there was like some new claim or something like a new victim or like that was a person who was coming forward, you know,
Starting point is 02:05:24 where it was like kind of shed a new light. and then giving that person an opportunity to share their trauma or whatever. That's one thing. But it sounded like it was just kind of like rehashing everything for the um team time. So like, do we have to do it again? Other two guesses besides Trish, not me. The other two guesses were Joshua was the one. Because he kept saying like, I can't believe this person would be involved.
Starting point is 02:05:44 So everyone was trying to guess like who that was. So Joshua Evans was the one, which like maybe that's kind of thing to hang on to. I mean, that's believable. That's the first person I thought would be probably in the documentary. The other one, the comments had also. said that they thought, I'm glad you didn't do it because what if it's like Colleen, or like someone with the Ballinger is like trying to like
Starting point is 02:06:01 re-like paint. Repaint history, rewrite history. Like, you know what I mean? Like kind of, you know how you can turn anything with editing? What I've learned is like you can turn anything to make it like there's so many Michael Jackson documentaries. There's so many, the girl, the crash girl. Like she has two documentaries and one like makes her look horrible and one is
Starting point is 02:06:19 trying to be like more gypsy rose. You can make. I think it can be framed. Yeah. You can frame anyone to be like, oh, this, what this? Oh, this. So, yeah, someone thought maybe if the boundaries were involved in, oh, it was like Lamar when, like, Chloe was like, wait, I was like trying to be, trying to be helpful by being in this documentary. And they kind of like, he turned it like on her, Lamar kind of made it like weird. So, yeah, it's kind of a, oh, Shane was another guest too. Someone thought Shane's coming back out of his documentary. These theories are fierce.
Starting point is 02:06:48 I wouldn't know. Do you have any insight? Can you DM Adam? Or is that a breach of friendship code? Is that like, I know. That's why I always tell Adam. I'm like, I can't like message you. I never want to be like that person that's like, I'm your friend to get the tea.
Starting point is 02:06:59 So I'm always very like, we don't mess it. I don't want to have any like any sort of connection that way. But like your friend ask. From just the details I heard here, it's most likely their TV or streaming app that is doing this. Yeah. You know, it's like. But it could be like if it becomes like a Netflix documentary, you know what I mean? It's one of those.
Starting point is 02:07:18 But I think at the end of the day, it's going to get less views than swoop. Yeah. Yeah. Swoop was the best. So it's like. Well, and even he said that, too, he's like, what do we need to do more? Like, she has been successfully canceled and not, like, in a good way, whatever. It's just, it is.
Starting point is 02:07:31 I mean, like, she's like, she did lose the view. She did lose the support. Like people, it did, like he said, it did what it needed to do, which is, like, it's shed light. People who heard, people who saw it. She still tours and has some fans come out. So it's like, everything's people picked aside. They know all the facts. It's like, people will still support.
Starting point is 02:07:49 It's like, like, exhaust. Isn't that interesting? It's like, yeah, I guess, like, when you, like, lived it. Like, I mean, maybe. but it's just like, it's also just tired. It's like, okay. Especially like Adam, who's like the main, one of the main, I guess, like characters in the situation, right, is like from the beginning he's been calling it. And if he's even like, I'm tired of it.
Starting point is 02:08:06 And he's young and he's in drama. He's like a drama channel. You know what I mean? If he's like, I'm tired of it. And he's like, if I'm defending Colleen, I was like, yeah, he's like, I don't think she deserves it. So I would love to know the details. I'm not going to ask Adam, but I would love to know. I just, I'm so nosy too.
Starting point is 02:08:20 I'm like, now I need to know. But also, that's a. It's a bad. Who's going to pick it up too? It doesn't get, it doesn't have any pickup yet. It's just a production. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:08:27 it's just a production, like I guess now in pre-development. And then after it's developed, it would have to get picked up by like a streamer. Yeah, I don't like when they're like, oh, it's not going to be just like some YouTube documentary. That YouTube documentary is going to be way bigger
Starting point is 02:08:38 than anything you're doing, guaranteed. Like there's just no way people are going to care. She's not that interesting, that loved or that much of a monster. You know what it was not like she killed somebody. It's just like it's kind of just boring. All of it says boring sauce, you know, she's like no one.
Starting point is 02:08:51 At this point, yeah. It's just kind of like retrading. Yeah. Because, yeah, like, it would make more sense for someone who is like still like, like James Charles. Yeah. And like still like redirected to James. How about that? Right.
Starting point is 02:09:05 I'm like, it's just like. Yes. You're right. She kind of just, she is existing. She's kind of lost everything. Like she and the whole family, you know. Like Rachel Ballinger came out too and she was like, The views have been down since everything happened to Coleman.
Starting point is 02:09:20 Oh, yeah. I saw that in his. That was a whole wild thing too. Yeah. She's like, ain't nothing new to me. Yeah. Okay. Love that.
Starting point is 02:09:29 Yeah. Honestly, love that. My views take, that's nothing new, baby, boo. I am very used to it. My views have been going down for years now. Ever since my sister was falsely accused with some really nasty things. Yes, parisocial relationship was, that was happening. But the big shit she was accused of,
Starting point is 02:09:51 that and people still hate me for supporting her which is absurd anyway still so odd though because this is like the first time she addressed everything since like getting um re disinvited from vdcon where she was is still holding on to like again everyone's a liar um et cetera et cetera which is like that is the part that is so just don't say anything if you think everybody is still a liar when there's spats. Like, just stop. Just stop. Like, that is that, that's, I think, the most frustrating thing. It's like, yeah, like, maybe she was a little parisotial.
Starting point is 02:10:30 It's like, oh, like BFFR. Like, not everyone's lying. That is, like, the most frustrating thing. And it is stricent effect of it all. Like, if you didn't say anything, I wouldn't have saw it on Adam's video. Adam wouldn't have reported on it. Like, he would have said this documentary. Yeah, right. Because he was so scary. He's like, my mom's going to text me any minute. Real, Adam's so real.
Starting point is 02:10:48 And then the mom's like, oh, no, she said, okay, go ahead. I'm watching now. And it's like, yeah, like if you just, and that's the thing. And that is the thing, right? Like, overtime people forget you, move on. And like, but if you keep saying someone lied, especially someone like Adam who's involved, it's like, well, no, it's all, it's, a lot of it's been. Like, that's, that's what's frustrating. And then that's when it gets, us too.
Starting point is 02:11:10 That's when it keeps getting brought up. It's like, when it's like a whole. It's like, everyone lied. Every, just like everyone lied. Then it becomes like a thing that's like, no, actually, let's remind them. And then we keep trying to move on. Yeah, it's very, it's very odd. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:11:21 It's very weird. I'm glad he said now. I think everybody should say no. The swoop documentary was great. Timely and relevant. Like this is just boring. And then by the time it comes out, what's even if it's the end of this year? And next year, it's like, no one cares.
Starting point is 02:11:34 The train has left the station. Oh, literally. The gossip. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I did hear she performs that live as her opener. Oh, you sent me the TikTok.
Starting point is 02:11:45 Yes. That was. Yes. That's kind of crazy. Her city wine tour, she is performing toxic. allegedly performing toxic gossip train live in it i don't i can't i don't i i i is she also locking up those phones like phoebe brisgers because like who where is the bird is the video i really am dying to see the video like are they in the yonder
Starting point is 02:12:03 pouches or what like come on i think they're too young they don't have phones yet stop oh my god oh my god right okay well i would love to see it maybe hers is also intimate she doesn't want people to share I'm sure it's very intimate. Stop. I'm sure it's a very small room. We're all moving on. We're all moving on this.
Starting point is 02:12:31 We're all moving on this. Put a ball on me and shit has to go down, baby. I'll say you that much. But there's no. Oh, are you going to do the documentary? Is that what you said? What did you say? You said put a microphone on me.
Starting point is 02:12:42 I said put a bob on me. Oh. Yes. Get Oscar and the Bob for the documentary. Venhill a really tight. They should have you in the documentary the way I was in the beauty, each of Hollywood story. of the beauty community
Starting point is 02:12:53 where it's like I was the only person they got to do an interview and I was nowhere to be involved you were having literally know about collection of what the hell
Starting point is 02:13:03 even happened with by sister drama again one two three four five like and then you being the talking at professional like girl in the know was crazy
Starting point is 02:13:11 that's gonna be you with this coldly documentary I went to get at least I was like on the sideline I had you I had him like you know I was in the mix Okay, yay.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Well, that's why you should be. You weren't even... They asked me about Shane Dawson and I was like, look, I know about this conspiracy palette. True. You didn't have a pigment named after you. I was, yes, I was... So there's my...
Starting point is 02:13:33 I was talking about Patrick's Star. I'm talking about these people I do not know. Which I think is kind of fun. I do like talking about things I don't know. If it's a documentary about someone I definitely don't know, I would love to comment for sure. That would be kind of fun. But this one might also be a little too close.
Starting point is 02:13:45 They didn't ask me, so I was offended. Although he said he was getting, like, harassed. I'm like, maybe he shook my DMs. It's kind of fun. Funny. I love they said no and they kept We're like, no, do it. I know. I'm so curious. He's coming for Vidgon and he's doing an appearance at
Starting point is 02:13:59 Pump? And I was supposed to see him. Wait, where's Pump? I thought it closed down. Or not pump, sir. Sorry, sorry. Oh, I said I loved Pump. Does that here in L.A.? Yeah, WeHo. Pride all month. Very that. Never stopping. Actually, Wii always pride all year, really.
Starting point is 02:14:15 That's cute. I like that. Well, what a mess. Thank you, Adam, for spilling your own tea, really. It's kind of fun. A bad idea, though. Whoever's doing that, maybe stop. Maybe reroute. Maybe do something else.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Not that. Like, that's so crazy. There's so many debauchmas people online. James Charles will participate in that documentary. And we'll be like the outsiders, the outside lines people. Oh, with love. We have a lot to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:42 Especially Oscar with the Bob. Oh, the Bob's got to come on to. It's got a lot to say. Every shot style the different way. Oh, that's fun. That looks cute like that. You also look like someone else. Gosh, who else do you look like like that?
Starting point is 02:14:54 You look very cute. You're giving a little bit of the chick-fil-a-sau girl. No chick-fil-a-sau? It's like her and Thor if they were. Thor? Oh, that's a good one. Most of the things I do look at Thor. With a hair.
Starting point is 02:15:08 It's like if they have a baby. I like that. Yeah. It's cute. It's giving cute. No, chick-fil-a-sau. You look out like your day. There's a lot of people who like, let us know who Oscar looks like in the comments below.
Starting point is 02:15:20 And I love it. This looks so cute on you. I can't look at Amazon. I know. It was like 10 bucks. Give that affiliate link, girl. And it came tussled in texture. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 02:15:28 I didn't even have to do anything to it. I love that. Throw that thing up in the air, run under it. Good to go. You can wear it all the time. Next time we have a little sweater vest. You pop that on.
Starting point is 02:15:35 It's a pretty good hack. Yeah. Oh. Okay. He was waiting for that one. Well, are you waiting for a hot topic, baby? Because we're about to go over to the extended. Yeah, because you were talking about things that needs to be stopped.
Starting point is 02:15:44 So I'm just. Okay. So there's a, we all know the trend of 6-7 and we are officially ending it today. Okay. On 6-8. Well, because yesterday, yeah, we don't end it on the day. So yesterday there was a meetup in New York and it was like because it was 6-7 and at 6-7. And when I watched it, all the people there, I realized that that was the nail in the coffin, it's dead and it's over.
Starting point is 02:16:14 And I think all the people there too, they were all. just they're all meeting there you know waiting for in the moment at the time came they all just stood there and look at each other and as you can see they're all pretty all they all look at each other and they're just doing this and you're like it's kind of loud babe maybe too pause okay you're like you're the audio person i'm like how is that not bothering you because they're cheering as i speak okay that was distracting me it okay so i'm calling it the Mimi's dead and um you're calling it okay and on top of that and then the pope same thing he went out in the crowds and did the six seven so I'm like oh he's also doing it I think it's officially
Starting point is 02:16:58 it's done although AMC did have the six seven meal on six seven and it did if I wasn't at pride I would have been at the AMC because it was like a a soda and then a free popcorn so you only pay for a soda wow the six seven meal on six seven I was like hold on maybe I well I do Anything free. Is that I the only have to do for it? But that's what I'm saying. Anything free, that part. The minute you go there and you stand at the cashier and you have to do that to get something free,
Starting point is 02:17:23 you will feel so humiliated and so like. That's very good, though. I would have done it for some free MC popcorn. That sounds so good. Dang. I miss the days where you didn't order popcorn. I should do that after this. Order some popcorn in my car.
Starting point is 02:17:37 That's funny. All right, guys. Well, we love you. 6-9. That's where we're at today. Let's make 6-9 the new thing. I think $16.9 have been a thing. We love you guys.
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