Just Trish - Just Trish Episode for May 05, 2026

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

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Hello, uglies. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. If you're watching this, then that means you're not at the Met Gala and your absolute trash, honey. Today we have a very special episode. We'll be critiquing everybody on the internet, and that is what we do, me and this fassbob. And we love it.

Thank you so much for being here. Whose phone was that? Fire immediately. Mine. Can fire yourself? Oh, my gosh. Anyways, we have a very exciting podcast. You guys,

So much fun, so much to talk about. We're just two stars over here. Me and Oscar Gracie, who may get too big for the podcast one day. I do fear that because people love you so much, which, thank God, because it's nothing worse than, like, having someone on a podcast, that person's so annoying. You know what I mean? Which, by the way, most podcasts, I think that. I always think, like, why is that other person there?

You know what I mean? Like, no shade. But I usually think that. So I love that everyone loves you. but your star is on the rise. That's so sweet. Not only did you star in the Arby's commercial. Like literally, Oscar's so iconic.

Like originally it was like, well, we'll talk about it. But so iconic. But also our dance video, getting over at 1.1 million views. And I posted it at night because I was like trying to promote the Patreon. Patreon.com slash gestures. We're really just the Oscar stock is going up. Invest now. I'm glad we did three years ago.

It's everything. But we're going to talk about that in a minute. Star on the rise. Oscar Gracie, who is, he's booked and busy. He's got to go to the Mac Gathalie. after we're doing this early, so he's got to go review the mecal for his other job, just so much, which is, you know. And if you haven't seen, go watch the, what you're talking about it.

I wanted to get more into it. But yes, go check out our Arby's commercial. Shout out Arbys. Check out the new mac and cheese with pulled pork or brisket. And 13 for the brisket. Were you had the brisket during? Did I have the pulled pork? Is that whatever we were eating?

Yes, I had the brisket. The hickory smoke. How long does it take for them to make it? 13 for the briskets. And pulled pork for four hours. as we know. We switched lines. I'll go into a little more detail here.

And then we also have Moses cooking videos. You guys know him as the phenomenon of cooking, really just going viral on TikTok for all these recipes. And I'm taking full advantage of it. And I'm very excited. And we're going to be ending early today. I don't know what we're going to do with all this time. Well, so much time after the podcast.

So much to cook. Oh. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Love that. We're just going on a spree. Happy May. Thank God it's May.

May is. truly lucky girl month for me. That is like my, I'm just going to be St. Badd-Dial year out. March, April, May. May is lucky. June pride. That'll be lucky. That's right.

There's a lot of pride stuff already happening. I've been getting lots of calls about pride stuff. I was like, oh, I love. I love we're skipping right to June. Honestly, May June is the best. May, brings May flowers. We're flourishing. We have Arby's commercial come out.

My birthday is this week. Mother's Day this week. My dad's 70th birthday is this week. My Euphoria episode is this week. Wow. a really, really big thing coming next Monday. There's just... You just had hacks.

Oh, hacks. That, oh, God, yeah, that's so much. There's so much. Oh, London, going to London, a few extra seats I've opened up for the Royal Albert Hall, which is very exciting. Just on stop. And then June, yeah, June is Pride. Tanna, actually, everyone's going to Vegas, I guess.

We're all doing a Vegas show. We're going to the Cosma. Come see us in Vegas. It's going to be a vibe. So May, June, just look out. Just know that this is your month. I want to wear these, but they're too dark, so I don't know. Just going to be a bob today.

Oh, and it's Mental Health Awareness Month. Oh, yes, my favorite month. Okay, yes. Check out Project Healthy Minds, you guys. That is the charity I decided to donate to this. Every May on my birthday, I always try to do like a little charity donation, and I usually try and pick different ones, but I start with Project Healthy Minds because it's just an overall mental health.

If you guys are struggling, any with your mental health, you can call them. They'll provide you with resources and local to your area based on location and pricing and all that stuff like that. I really, I really loved it. I saw Megan Markle promoting it one time and I was like, what is this? And then I looked into it more and I really love it. And it really caters to specifically a young people who are just looking for help. And no matter what it is, no mental health issues, she's too big or just small.

Maybe it's just a little anxiety. Maybe it's full blown depression. They can help you with everything. So we donate $10,000 to there. And then hopefully they can find you help. Because honestly, it all starts with asking for help. Let me tell you. Everyone's like, oh my God, church the glow up.

How did you manifest? This is your life changed. And it really was just like, let me get some help. And once I did, life changed. And it's not weakness, it's strength. When you can get help, your whole life will change. Trust me. I still go to therapy.

I'm still doing therapy. I don't talk about it a lot because I don't, you know, I don't know. I should. I should talk about it more because I think there is a stigma. It's like, wow, she still goes to therapy. She doesn't have it all together. But after three postpartum's being pregnant for three years, I was like, let me get some help. And really life changing.

And it just helps you with your life. Even when you think you have it under control, just how to manage it going forward because it doesn't always go away. Sometimes you just have to manage it. And that's okay. means you're super, super strong. I feel super strong going there. I'm battling all sorts of everything, every day, and thriving. And honestly, I feel better.

It's just, it's like exercise. You just got to, you know, build that muscle. Is it a muscle? No, mental health is chemicals. I don't know. You do something to it. Try and rearrange it. I don't know the science behind it.

I just know when you talk to someone, it helps. They have answers, whatever it is. Mine are triggers. I have to remember those triggers. You guys know. You guys know steak gate that happened with me where I just like was, but now, have I been triggered over food lately? No.

If I was like, oh, we could go here. And Emma's like, oh, the kids, like, fell asleep, we don't hunt time. It's like, oh, no worries. Like, you know what I mean? There's like, again, no matter how big and how small, how ridiculous it seems. I really do go talk to my therapist sometimes and be like, I need help because I am getting angry that steak isn't ready by the time the sunsets. And you know what?

People are willing to help. And people really do care. It is a crazy thing to think about because I think if I say it to anyone else, people are like, that's the, obviously you guys let me know too. Like, that's insane, Trish. and it is, but you get help and you learn how to regulate emotions and recognize triggers. That's my issue, but anyways, whatever it is. It's not even an issue.

It's a, what would it call it? There's no issue. It's a mental health. It's a condition you live with. Condition. Okay. Not that. The compartment of your mind.

I don't know. Makes you extra special, I think. I think it makes me extra special because I just, you know, there's just a lot happening inside of me and maybe it's not happening for everyone else, but it's happening for me. All right. Well, anyways, we love all of them. And if there's any other good organizations, there's Trevor Project. There's so many great projects that help or organizations that help. So I want to do more stuff. I'm trying to do more in-person things like a Megamarkle. I don't know. She's not really like the liked, but you know what I mean. Megan Markle, minus, I guess, the annoying part. I don't know. I guess I'm annoying to some people. I'm annoyed to some people. Huh? But they should adopt you as a royal and then you do all your royal duties. True. Who's more? They are not anymore, right?

Oh, do they get exiled? Yeah, Harry left. Yeah. A while ago. That was like two years ago. He's not a prince anymore? No. He's just Harry.

When they moved to California, they were like, see ya. Let me know if you need a... They don't have any more royal duties. I think he still technically has his title, but like they don't do anything with the royal family. I wonder if I'm going to have duties. It's like Bridgeton, right? When like their son became like a duke and then they inherited that big house, like that's probably going to be us with Malibu when she comes of age. I'm sure it's like the queen.

is there, do we have to move? Do we have to do some duties? You know, you know, you're on Bridgeton, the family that, like, all of a sudden became, like, what did they call it in the town, in the town? They became part of society. Right. Yeah. I wonder if that'll happen.

You know, maybe. I don't doubt that Malibu might have been royalty in a past life. We'll see what happens when I get there. Maybe if you guys want her, maybe we'll go there when she's of age, of 18, together as a family. That's not a crazy. Yeah. A Mayflower or something. Yeah.

A Mayflower. May flowers brings May flowers. We tie it back. Anyways, we're here. Yeah, you know, I can't call anyone annoying. I know people love to say Megan Markle's annoying. But, you know, I was on hacks this weekend. This is a lot.

You know, people are like really excited about hacks. But Twitter, Twitter gets kind of crazy with the hacks of it all. They're all like, Trish Crave. Trish Craves. They did a post and they went viral and everyone's like, oh, Trish is on hacks. But then it gets on like the wrong side Twitter. And everyone's like, she has a hack. I'm like, oh, my God.

Good thing I was on the show. Everyone be a hater on Twitter, though. They really are. I feel like I should just lead it. Nothing good comes from there, really. I don't know. I have a love-hate relationship. Me too.

Because I do learn a lot about the world and perspectives in pop culture, but then people will really drag anything out on Twitter. This is always my example, but you can say the sky is blue and then someone will say you're able-less because you see color and other people are colorblind and that the sky isn't act. Like, everyone has an opinion on your opinion and what you're doing on Twitter. So you kind of just got to like do your thing, keep it moving. Do you post? Do you post on Twitter? Not anymore because it was my last who-rah, I think, was with an unnamed influencer who. Oh, that was a long time ago.

That was, I remember I was at Disneyland. It was a whole snafu. It was all back and forth. And I was like, this is kind of exhausting. It's exhausting. So now I just retweet other people's stuff and keep it moving, you know. Oh, I love that. Yeah, I like it.

I like it because you're crazy. planning how to just like say anything. Mine really goes into the best. If you know my Twitter, I don't know, maybe it gets a thousand views. I don't even know. That's what I'm saying. I don't even know why I'm on there. Like it's just all negative off for me. And then I'm so. For like, you know, you're real fishies. That guess. There's some people. It's like when you know, like you have those negative thoughts sometimes in your head and you kind of like indulge in them. It's that type of thing. Right. You go on Twitter when you're like, I want some negativity, you know. Oh, well, mental health awareness month would say don't do that. We don't need to indulge in it.

But you're right. Maybe my mental health would greatly improve if I did not have my Twitter. I never get anything positive on Twitter ever. Like Twitter as a whole is just a place. You know, it's like it has a certain type of freedom, but that freedom is the freedom of hate. Okay. I guess exercise that freedom, I suppose. I guess if it's in one spot, there's maybe a better. That's good.

You know what you're getting into when you go on Twitter. Okay, maybe. Yeah. Mine's always like, again, it's like clavicular Erica Kirk. It's just not like stuff I don't ever look up. But I'm like, what is happening? Like, why do I know all this? information of all these people. I guess it's like you said, it's good to know, I guess,

expand it. I don't know. That's where, that is where the Queen Elizabeth rumor did start on Twitter. So I guess it has its moments, I suppose. But. And if it makes you feel any better when we are watching hacks, Darien looked over to me and he said, you know what? Trish is actually a really good actress. Like he said, so like earnestly and like a genuine review. And he's a tough critic because he hates Mel Street. And he was a guy. He says, Merrill's out. He says he does not like Merrill Street and he does not like Lady Gaga as an actress, but loves Chesa Pateus as an actress. Wow. The critics are raided.

That's a good review. That is very nice. I know Andrew Valentine, my music director was like, you're so funny in this. Like I came up. Like, it was actually really nice because like I can't really watch myself. I like cringe a little. Luckily, like the kids were like, usually we watch it like by ourselves because we wanted to watch it live when it was happening not live, but right when it came out.

And so like the kids are like, you know, playing and running around. So I couldn't really hear myself too much, which is probably a good thing because I usually like cringe. I saw some compilations that people posted. and I'm like, ooh, but it was fun. We shot four days for that little, I was on probably three minutes. Yeah, it's crazy.

But yeah, go check out hacks. I'm in episode five, the amazing race. And, yeah, they did cut a lot. I mean, they cut a lot for everybody and stuff like that, but they did cut a lot. And, yeah, the original ending of the script actually, because Twitter being so negative was like, wow, at least Deborah hated Trisha.

Like, we all do. And I was like, they're like, what everyone feels. She's calling her an idiot. I was like, oh, my God, okay. Jesus. I know. I was like, all right. Well, this is why I go to therapy still. But no, I'm just kidding. But then the original script, but I think it's just like it was a timing thing because it was, there was so much. The original script, they did have Deborah coming around to me and being like, I ended up like, I'm helping her with the clown makeup. And I give her like my purple eye shadow from like my makeup collection or something. And she's like, thank you, Trisha Peda. So I'm like, you're welcome, Deborah. Like, and she laughs at me. And I'm like, wow, I met Deborah Banzl. Like, that was in the original script. I think like for time. And also made more sense the way it ended with obviously them being like wholesome and cute. But, um, I loved it. It was great. It was so fun. It was actually one of my favorite experiences ever because it was four-day shoots. And they wrote a part for Beyond Hacks, which is like so insane. This like Emmy awarding show. Like to me, that'll always be a flex. It'll always be my biggest flex. I was like, damn.

I remember when that happened, they told me right as I was going to New York to do Beetlejuice and like, oh, we need you here next week for Hacks. And we said no. We had to say no to it. And I remember telling Lydia, shout out my agent, who's the best agent. Someone's like, who's just agent? Like, euphoria and hacks. Leah. And she's like, no, like, we have to turn it out. And we even try to talk to, like, Broadway. But, like, I couldn't because I was only there for three weeks. And they're like, no, she has to be here every show. Which obviously, like, that was my dream too.

So I was like, all right, I'm, you know, I committed to Broadway. Like, I love Broadway. That's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to have to miss out on hacks. And then Paul Debbie Down is the creator, DME himself. He's like, no, you have to read the script. Like, and I was like, I didn't get the script. So then he sent it to me.

And it was literally, remember I was, like, Tricia Padas. And they wrote so many lines for me. I was like, oh my God, they wrote it for me. And I'm like, I have to make this work. And they were like so crazy. But they were able to switch from like a Wednesday, Thursday shoot to doing Mondays because that was my one day off from Broadway, which is like so insane.

Rearranging all the actors' schedules to make this happen. It was so insane. That was really, really nice. And then, yeah, and then a couple times got like rained out. It was like a whole thing. But anyways, it was, it was so amazing. Yeah. And Jordan first man, I have to give him credit to.

Jordan, who is my amazing race partner, and obviously, like, he's on I Love L.A., um, polarizing. But I think everyone loves a polarizing individual, I think. It's like, I like someone that's all in or all out. It's better to have an opinion on someone than no opinion on someone. That's kind of how I feel. I feel that very strongly. And he's definitely the person that everyone has opinions on. And, but I remember we were watching season like two of hacks. We're on season five. This is supposedly the final season. Um, season two, he said, I posted that we were watching it. Thanks to Oscar, Clock with the Oscar was the first one to tell us. you'd really like hacks.

I don't know, in season one of this podcast, you said it. You were like, I think you would like hacks and you were telling us about it. I was like, all right, we'll watch it. And then we started watching it. I posted it to my story, Jordan Furstman, like years ago, like 2023 was like, oh, I'm like in the writer's room and they're going to do an amazing race episode. And I pitched that it'd be us. Yeah.

That's crazy lore. Right? I was like, and I remember it telling you, I was like, oh, my God, he's going to, like, maybe it's going to happen. And then obviously, like, the third and four season came around. And I was like, oh, this is like not happening or whatever. But I guess there is a little, like, Easter egg in, like, season one where Eva tells Debra they should go on Amazing Grace. So there is, like, a reference to it early on that that was, like, a possibility.

But, yeah, it didn't happen to, like, season five. So when I got it, I was like, oh, my gosh, I remember telling you. I was like, because, you know, people say everything. They're like, yeah, we're going to do this or this. And you're just like, obviously I've been trying for 20 years to be on a television show. People always tell me something's going to happen. Or I'm in, like, Alvin and the Chipmunks and I get cut. Like, you know, there's always something.

Get into the Greek. Yes, man. There's so many movies that I'm like, I'm going to be in, and then I'm never in. And so people just, whatever. So I was like, okay, sure, you know, whatever. And then it worked. It happened. And it was me and Jordan.

I was like, damn. And he really doesn't know everyone because everyone on that set was like Jordan. Like, everyone just loved him. They worked on I Love LA. It was obviously the crossover at all. Well, thank you. I was very excited. That was my first, like, I guess it's my first official acting debut because it aired before

Euphoria, even though I did Euphoria first. But it's like my first official acting. and Trish Crabe knew it. Trish Crabe called it, I don't know, probably when I shot it back in December. He said one of the background actors in the first scene we shot was at the Ontario airport and it was like open to everybody.

So I was like, okay. So I was like taking pictures with people and I guess someone posted it and he had saw it and shout out Aiden. I'm going to give you some exclusive because sometimes I get a little nervous that I'm going to get in trouble. So I'm like, can you take it down? And he's always like so sweet to take stuff down

because he knows, he knows. But I promise I'll give you an exclusive for something soon. And yeah, I was like, I always get nervous. I'm like, I didn't, I don't know. I didn't post the picture. You know what I mean? But what can you do, I guess? You know, it was really great.

Yeah, it was the best. And Gene Smart was great. Caitlin Alson, I got to work with them and they were so nice. And I got to meet Gene Smart's son. I remember Gene Smart coming into my trailer and being like, you know, would it be possible for like waste? And he was like so nice. Crazy.

I was in there. I remember because Meg Saldor was filming that same day. I should, yeah, she was filming there that same day. And then she comes in and it's like Gene Smart coming into the trailer. And I was like, oh, my gosh, like my son would like to say hi. And like, again, shout out to, I always, always say this. But shout out to Gen Z, Jen, Alpha, all of you for just like thinking I'm cool. I really, really, really, a thousand percent, oh, everything in the past, like, few years to you guys, always.

Was it Arby's that said when we were on the shoot? I think it was one of them. Maybe it wasn't Arby's. Maybe it was. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Leslie, when she was like, like, obviously knows all our verbiage and stuff. and watches the podcast and stuff like that. And it's always like, yeah, it's always like a girl or a gay that's in there just knowing all the lore, like pitching it. Pitches it, makes it happen. Makes the decks to like pitch to the marketing people. Yeah, that's what it was. She was the first ever to pitch me for Arby's ever back in August when I did my first Arby's one. And then Oscar, she knew like all the Oscar lines.

Like obviously there was like a director and everyone there. But she'd be like, oh, no, Oscar would say this or Oscar would this. And they wrote it exactly. Go check it out. Have you seen it yet? No. Do you want to watch? It's like a minute.

Do you want to watch it? It's on my TikTok if you want to pull it up. So good. Oscar did so good. I wouldn't talk so much about it. You did so good. Important engagement tonight. Yes, Mama.

Try not to laugh challenge. Bailed. Oh my God. You're so cute because it's so you. It's so you. Oh my God. Okay. Let me start over it.

I'm gagged. I have a very important engagement tonight. Yes, Mama. Did you clock the gowns? Perfection takes time like manifesting your dreams. And tonight, all those dreams are coming true. And it's all thanks to Arvys. We get to spend our night with this bar.

It's back! This pulled fork is pickery smoked for four hours and 13 for the brisket. My favorite line. And making its red carpet debut this year, the new MacBull, it's topped with smoked cold pork or chopped brisket. Wait, chopped? Chopped? Chopped?

In a good way. Okay. This is barbecue over creamy white cheddar mac and cheese, as specialized with crispy onions and completed with delicious barbecue sauce. Gala's are for commoners. Arbys, we have the barbecue. I'm gagging for this Anna look, Mama. Anna who?

Domit on me. Wow! Yay! Wow. That's crazy. That's wild. It's so good. It came out so good.

I was thinking about it because I had to do like another ad yesterday from like my YouTube channel. And it was so hard for me to do it by myself. And I was like, why was the Arby's with a whole crew of like 50 people so much easier? Oh my God. You got another sponsor? What's our usual?

It's our usual go-to. Oh my God. I know. Well, that's everything for your vlog. Yeah, for my blog. Ask a Gracie's vlog. So that's a sponsor, that's huge. Oh, my God, congrats.

I shoot it by myself, and it took me like 30 minutes to say like a minute and a half ad read. And then for the Arby's, I was like, I was giving them takes, given them lots of options, total options. You were so good. It's different when you're performing to people, then you're in front of the camera by yourself. It's so much. That's true. There's no feedback. You don't know what.

And I am an ensemble kind of girl. Like, I do love an ensemble. I love being, like, the supporting character. Like, it's so fun. Like, if you don't feel like a main character, that's okay. Sometimes you just need to be that supporting, and you can still get the Oscar for best supporting. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's basically the same.

It's like semantics. It's like, all right, there's like a little less. But no, you're the star of this. It was so good. Everyone was gagged. I sent Jimmy the B-roll. I could say to you two if you want it for your vlog. Like, I took so much of it because I wasn't in obviously the Oscar parts.

And so I was like filming all of it. And people were just so gagged every take. And you gave different takes every time. You improv. You were just like always doing something different. It was so good. Yeah. I really committed to.

Luckily, my dialogue was easy because it was like the four little clips. And I was like, okay, let me get these four clips. And then I'll practice tonally. I was like, what's the situation? Either I'm supportive or I'm like sassy. So I was really channeling that energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was so good.

Oh, my God. It was amazing. I was just like, that was just such a fun day. It was so quick too. It was like, you know, we did a few hours on it. Yeah. It was so fun. The whole crew was so fun.

Yeah. And it was delicious. Delicious. Yeah. We ended up eating the mac and cheese bowls and it was so good. It's so funny because they, like, I guess they're used to people spitting it out because they get running to us. You're like, here, you can spit it out. I was like, I'm going to swallow.

One thing about me, I'm a swallow. And I was swallowing those mozzarella shit. I know. They only do you want to spit it out. I was like, no. It's delicious. It was hot because they had someone on set, like a chef on set to make sure that it was hot and like really nice and stuff. So everything was like so hot and so good.

And I was like, no, I want all of it. I need those XL cups. Oh, they said they might bring him later. I don't know. They, I think they're new. So the exiles are like back everywhere apparently. I really said Arby's, but they have these like extra large cups. And it says like Excel on there.

I loved it so much. I was like this is so because I'm an Excel. Like I love Excel everything. So when I saw the Excel on there, I was like, heck yeah, exiled back. So go to Arby's Day, get your exile cups and your pulled pork or brisket. Hickory smoked mac and cheese bowls. They were really good. And they're really big.

Even the crew, I could tell you because I was behind the scenes, even the crew when the stuff went offset, they would eat it. Oh. It was delicious. They loved it. Yeah. They were just like, this is amazing. No, Arby's is so good. I mean, I, like, I don't, like, I love it.

Like, I've always loved it. Clock the Muckbangs. It's, like, it's actually great quality. The sandwiches are big. Arbys, we love you. We love to do more. Oscar loved to do more. We all love to do more.

It was so fun. It was just so fun to see you. And I feel like you will get so many more. Because you, like, crush, too. You just crushed you. You really embodied the role. Like it was so. And originally, yeah, originally they're like,

oh, like, Oscar went to do like a little cameo, handing you a bag of food and I was like oh okay do you want to do this yeah it was like it was that would that be fine and then ended up being star main character and I love it I loved it and it's so fun to do it with you too like I said last week I don't think I've ever done any ever brand deal like I knew to brand deals myself and it's obviously to do it with you was like so fun and then we did the cat's eye dance for we went to a dance studio out of the set stage room whatever thank you so much to know CD for sponsored today's episode of just Trish very important because may is Mental Health Awareness Month and no CD has you covered.

You guys know I'm super open about my mental health and everything I go through online. Sometimes, yeah, that means a moment of crying on the kitchen floor that might turn into a meme. But honestly, that stuff also helps people see what mental health struggles can really look like and reminds people that they're not the only ones going through it. If one thing I'm thankful for of my journey here online is to show sometimes the hard truths of visually what people go through mentally in their heads. Sometimes I've often said it can feel like a prisoner in your mind. There's those intrus with thoughts.

A lot of us have intrusive thoughts and there's ways to minimize those intrusive thoughts so they do not hold power over us. And that's why I want to talk about OCD right now because it's a mental health condition that's so misunderstood and a lot of people struggle with it without even realizing. So there's some stereotypes, okay? OCD is not really about being organized or liking things clean. Like a lot of people might think it's not funny. It's serious and it can actually show up in ways you might never expect. OCD could look like having terrifying unwanted thoughts that you're going to hurt someone. And even though you never ever want to do that, the thoughts feel so real that you'll still avoid everyone you love just to be safe or constantly doubting.

your relationship, asking your partner over and over if they're really happy, but still feeling unsure no matter what they say, or playing a conversation on repeat in your mind for days, because you're convinced that you said something offensive and you feel like you can't move on until you're totally certain about what happened. And this actually is something that I realize I struggle with a lot. Sometimes I play out situations that haven't even happened yet, and I obsess over it, and I think about it constantly, and it already puts a lot of anxiety onto me for something that may never have even happen or will never happen.

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I haven't seen the comments because I just posted it like last night, so I don't know what the comments are, but I was so excited to get it up. I've been so excited to post the TikTok. So I was like, let me get this page card up because I want to post the TikTok so bad. TikTok as of this morning had 1.2 million views. And I posted it at 9 o'clock last night. It's 9 a.m. right now. So in 12 hours, I got 1.1 million views. We learned it in like an hour. I ate a full chicken and waffles on it. I was, I just got lost. I just got lost. I just got lost. Oh, my God. It's right. I said the chicken and waffles place. It's going to be so good. Then I realized we're at a different dance studio than we normally practice that.

We're usually like at the one right by the chicken and waffles place. And it was close. I just kept getting lost. So anyways, then I had this whole thing in chicken waffles because I was starving. But honestly, we still ate, even on the chicken waffles, we still ate that whole thing. I was like, I need to just eat this real quick. And we learned it in about an hour. Shout out Cedric, who is my choreographer. We did the choreography

from the Pinkies Up, Cat's Eye Dance. But people were gagged for us. Well, I can tell her the comments. Okay. Never clicked on something so fast. On what, Patreon? Yeah. This could save Manon from her hiatus. We encourage them to get back to them. Actually, let's bring that back.

Let's bring Minow up. They're like Disney Channel core. She just made my night. Oh, my God. This is so funny. Anyway, they love their feet. Everyone is asking about that. The feet?

Fit. Oh, the fit. That was really cute. Everyone. You guys are stars. I was sweating. I took mine off by the time we did the final one. It was heavy.

I don't know how you did it. I was like that sweatshirt was like 50 pounds. I couldn't wear it for the final. It was so hot. I was going to pass out. It was a workout. Oh, my God. I underestimated how hard it was.

I mean, I already had respect for the cats high girls, but even more because that dance is so hard. And they're singing. And people who left Gritiko, they're out of breath here, out of breath there. Because the dancing is really hard. Oh, we were sweating. Go watch the pageant. Afterward, I'm sweating. We shouldn't even speak.

No, I was dying. I was like, thank you, thank you. I was like dying. I got in the car, just blasted air in me. I was just like, oh, my gosh. I felt really good, though, because we did do it. Like, it's the first time we did a dance video together. But every time we do a dance video, I like to just go, go.

go and get them all done while they're fresh in the head. But oh my God, afterwards, it is like a marathon. I feel good, though. I had so much endorphins. I was like, wow. I feel like we worked out so hard. We crushed. And by the way, for people asking on the TikTok, like, who's off timing?

It was me. I was definitely going faster, which I know for a fact. You were on the right. That was with the difference. I guess. I was like. If it's going too slow, maybe we were going too fast. No, I was 100%.

I was 100%. I could hear it a little bit. I'm usually not rhythmically on anyways. But yeah. And Cedric was to the corner. So that's why I knew. I was going too fast because I would always just be like ahead, which has always been a problem mine because I just like,

I anticipate the next thing. So I, and it's such a fast dance. So I think it's faster than it is or whatever. I think you might have been on time. Honestly, I think I was me going. But we can just say we split the difference.

Honestly, we still ate though. It was our best one. I promise you was our best. Did you watch all of them? Yeah. Because that was our best. And I,

you have the pop star, like the pop star experience just comes back to you naturally. Okay. That's true. Yes. I did do a lot of, because at first you were like, oh,

I'm like, I don't know if you were kind of like anxious about it first about learning the dance, but you picked it up so quick. Like you got it like instantly. Yeah, I'm good with Sedgeirk. But like when we did the touch one and like if I have to learn it like you can learn off of TikTok.

That one obviously I flop so hard. Like you're very good at picking it up. I have to have someone teach me, which I do think I am like pretty good at. But that is just really hard choreo too. Like it's just it's a lot of coordination and fast. Yeah. And they do everything like on the word.

I guess right. And I guess Cape pop choreography a lot of the. times in general. Like it goes by the words they're saying not necessarily the beat too. Yes. So you really have to like know the lyrics. So like no, okay, pinky up. And then because they go one pinky, two pink. You know. So hard. And then the punching all. I mean, Cetrick was doing his best. I thought we did really good. Even in the moment, I just felt really good about it without even seeing it. I was like, wait. I feel so good. Because Oscar is like, maybe we should try it slow motion. I can speed it up. And I was like, I think we

ate. And I think we really did. I don't think we even needed to. I think it was so good. And I loved it. We need to do more. Already people were recommending like, do the young Miko, do this. Like, there's already dances. So if there's ever another dance trend, although you love a cat's eye. So I guess we'll have to wait for the next cat's eye. We just only do that only. Because we are icons at the end of the end. I keep see that clip of Harry Daniels going around. Adam McIntyre did a whole video on it.

It's like, Trisha Paitis gets in trouble because of Harry Daniels and that's so right. This is also, I mean, I'm going to have to do podcasts from my book, obviously when it comes out, but I don't love doing podcasts in general because like it does always always get, when I do the mega trainer one. Everything always gets taken. It's always always never good.

And then the Harry Daniels, like I got caught up in the whole, look, we know, I know nothing. Everything I just once again to clarify was secondhand from Harry Daniels who heard it allegedly from somebody.

I know T. We don't know those girls. I've never, I barely said any words to any of them. Our only sources is Harry Daniels. And not trying to throw him under the buzz either. Like, you know, he might have,

who knows, maybe he was dramatic. You know, sometimes you'd talk of ties a short age just to tell your friends. He didn't know we're coming to come on hot topics right after. and we're like so gagged by it. But we love all the cat's-sight girls. We hope Ma'ah, if she comes back, she doesn't come back,

I don't know, but like, I'm sure she's going to kill it regardless. But Manaw, if you want to come on the podcast, I'm looking for a May guest. I have a May guest for when I go to England. So I'm looking for a May guest if you want to come on, girl, we love you. And, or all the cats-size, honestly, we love all of them. We support. I do love those girls. Clearly, I mean, I've been boots on the ground since day one.

Yeah. Again, like season one of this show, you were talking about them. Yeah, I love them so much. I also, I love their new sister group, pre-level. Lude. They're coming out this year. Yeah, love all the Dream Academy girls. Adela, Carly Girl, which you're kind of giving with this Bob.

Oh, is it Carly Girl? Right back. Right back. Yeah. Evita, be it up. Bevita. Bevita. And then she does a little flick of the Bob.

The Bobography. Yup. Is that what you were talking about? I really got to do that TikTok. Did you send it to me already? I did. I did last week. Yeah, yeah.

I will do that after it because I will have time after. Love all the Dream Academy alumni so much. Shout out to the mom. We have no involvement with Harry Daniels other than, you know, being at the seat of the car. And T, he's always giving me tea And I've never said anything that he has told me.

Well, I tell people don't give me tea because I'm, how could I not say it? You know what I mean? That's why I laughed though because like when you were saying Oh, she's not coming back because you were like half paying you were like not even half quarter paying attention to you.

I was thinking about how to get that chicken and waffles getting out of that parking garage that was so complicated. I know they were definitely walking ahead. I'm always just like because I have no idea what they're talking about. It's like honestly you with Harry you like you are like 22 in like the best way like you literally are like a 22 year old too and I was like I cannot keep.

up with what they're saying. That's funny. And I don't know any of the names involved. I just know I heard a couple things. And I was like, oh, yeah. But you also know me here. I just am like, yeah, I'm just like, yeah, I'm just trying to like say stuff for the show. So I was like, yeah, she's not coming back.

But who knows? I know that using you as a source that about the hires was crazy of anyone to do. Because it's also like, you said that based off of like the context of no Coachella, Manawah taking cat's either vio. Like there's other things. So it's so funny. I still don't remember any of that. So.

But I trust you A thousand percent Do you watch Euphoria last night? I sure did. Okay, there was a, there was a Vinnie Hacker cameo, I guess that was only two seconds. That can't be Vinny Hacker's camera.

Like, why they, is that it of Vinny Hacker? Everyone's like, wow, what if this is Trisha's cameo? It might be, I don't know, by the way. I was only on Euphoria one day. So like, in theory,

I could also be two seconds. I don't know. Like, don't come from me. That also could change because I was told everything changes. Like hacks, like a lot of stuff was edited. out maybe maybe a for you there were I don't know also I had no script just go for that go take that

with what you will like I don't know how they're going to fit that in because people are asking how to shift into this honestly I don't know my episode's next this little piggy okay can't forget that um and I have no idea I don't know how it's exciting at a script I literally we do know that the editors were happy about they said they were as excited but are they say that because they saw my face and like your part's amazing I might be a viny hacker where I just do a little hey girl Vinny Hacker, you don't even see his face. You see his back in his tattoo. Because I missed it.

I actually don't know who Viny Hacker is. But people were gagged that it was two seconds. Literally, I mean, his scene, that's why I'm like there has to be more. Maybe. Maybe. Because why include him in the press release? Because it's a party scene, like at an influencer party house. And it's like a wide shot.

And you just see Vinny Hacker like literally walk across the screen. It's like a blur. But people pointed out like he's shirtless and you can see his tattoos like on his back as he walks. Wow. But it's like a wide and it's like a hundred people in the frame. So there might be another episode with him. I would think there has to be more because also like it's going down this like,

you know, Cassie is like an influencer and Maddie like being in the management. So I'm assuming there's going to be another influencer scene in which Vinny Hacker would be used. There has to be because literally why include him in the in the rollout and then. I love it though. Like if you get a press release for two seconds, I love that too, honestly. I'm going to say mine is not any bigger. I don't know if people think I'm like a main character. I don't know if mine's any bigger.

I did talk. I did talk about. Who knows what I'm talking mix it? The theories crack me up. Have you seen? What are the theories? Tell me. Yeah.

Okay. Is, um, okay. So, spoiler alert for euphoria, this latest episode. But at the end, when we see, um, Faye, Chloe Cherry's character, be like the getaway driver after the heist or whatever the hell. Like, whatever the, what's the place called? The glass slipper. Whatever it's called.

Silver slippers The theory is that you are involved Like you and Faye were involved in it Like you're going to be part of that crew I don't That's a good theory That is one theory Another one is that you're going to be at the silver

Slipper What is everything that's going to be a stripper Everyone thinks Love that though, thank you I mean the fact that they think this is okay Yeah Someone thinks you're going to do Something with you and silver slipper

Oh my God Okay Maybe, you know, I'm never going to say no to nudity. If it's artful and tasteful, which euphoria is nothing but that, I would do it. Absolutely. Sam Levins and director of the idols, like, yeah, absolutely. That's my audition for Idol season two. Like that's like, yes, I'm going to do.

Okay, I love that. Oh my God, that's funny. Oh, my God. I do love these theories. I can't wait to. The concept of like you and Fay being like a euphoria, Delma, Louise, is kind of yeah. Yeah.

I like that theory. Can't confirm it and I do love Chloe Cherry to say that. I will say that. I honestly just have no idea. Like, I don't. I have no idea when make it because I literally did. I probably my scene took maybe like three to four hours to film. But I'm assuming it's going to be a lot because it was just all over the place.

And I had no idea the context of the story at all. So we'll see how that happens. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. But I'm excited to see it. It's going to be on Mother's Day. It's actually my dad's 70th birthday party. It's Mother's Day and it's Euphoria.

So get ready for content that day because there's going to be just content posting all day long. And I'm so excited. to see it. Yeah, people really like hacks, so I'm excited for people to see. It's just like two very different shows. So how I've been in... Full spectrum of your range as a performer. Or maybe just Trish in different universes. I don't know.

Which I do love that. I love that it can be in different realms. Yes. I'm so happy to be part of any cinematic universe except for maybe Barstool. The Barstool Cinematic Universe. Did you watch SNL because your niece was on it? Yeah. I saw the clips. You didn't even.

You like love her. You couldn't sit and watch that. They post them so quick. So I see everything as they post it. It's so fun to watch the length of the show. Did she perform or no? Yeah, she was a double duty performer and host. I feel like that would be an event for you. Like if it was like my favorite person, like if it was Britney Spears-Duradway or

somebody, I would be watching. I would, it'd be like at the hour and like making a snack and a meal to watch it. That's so crazy. It comes on so late. I also don't even have like my TV set up yet, really. So yeah, it's much to do. But I did see she gave Jake. Paul, little shout out in her opening monologue,

which is so funny to me because I always... I think I was going to say I forget. I don't forget. I think I just willfully, like, ignore the fact that they were once co-stars on a Disney Channel show. Great. I didn't know that. I didn't know.

Bazaar. Mark. Crazy. And then Jake Paul, taking it as a compliment. He's like, yeah. We told you we both saw in our arenas. Like, okay, I don't know if that was... I guess I guess it's shot out.

Look, I will say, because the Breon chicken fire I'll do. I will say it is like, I would take anything as a compliment, too. I've always said this about S&L. Like, they could call me a fat pig. And I'm like, I love SNL. Like, it is, it is a compliment. Yeah. And I think this is the second time Jake Paul has been referenced on SNL.

So I'm sure he feels, because to me, Jake Paul, even though he's so rich, of course, I still feel like he's very influencer to me where he's not like, I guess mainstream. I guess they are mainstream. But in my head, they're influencers. I feel like, unless you're Emma Chamberlain, I think she's the only one I could think of that I would consider mainstream. But everyone else, I feel like are still influencers in the influencer world that mainstream people don't really care or kind of think of them as a joke.

So I think to be on like an S&L mainstream and Olivia Rodergo is as mainstream as you can get. Shouting you out is kind of kind of big, I suppose. Yeah. And we thought it. So the little joke that she said was, um, when I was 13, I was on a Disney show called Bazaar Vark. We had an incredible cast which included Jake Paul. We'd always talk about our futures, me and Jake.

I'd say I really want to create music that explores the complexities of girls my age. And he'd say, well, one day I really want to beat up old guys on Netflix. And we both did it. Hooray. And her delivery was so good too She was really funny I liked her acting Yeah she's a really good actress

Which People kind of forget I guess She hasn't really done anything since High School Musical The Musical The Series I suppose I forgot she I didn't know she was in that I didn't watch it but I didn't have to tell me

Who was she? What kind of character was she? She was like the Vanessa Hudgens-esque character Yeah she was the main female Who was like the Zach Efron type Why am I forgetting his name Joshua Bassett Joshua Bassett. Is he doing anything? He is releasing a book this month.

And I did see he posted a release ad TikTok about how he knows everyone hates him. Why? Well, he was the source material of the love triangle between Olivia Rodriguez-Sabrina Carpenter. He was the cause of the rift. So driver's license is about Joshua Bassett. And then like Sabrina's, a lot of the songs on Sabrina's album emails I can't send are about Joshua Bassett. So is he doing a book like a tell-all? I guess it's like a memoir.

How old is he? He is pretty young. I think he's like Sabrina's age. Okay. Which does, I mean, probably will be. He's 25. Oh. Okay.

He was very sick, though. Like, he had heart problems and he did almost pass away. So I guess he does have some, you know, life experience. Is it called like Survivor or something? Is it about that? Like, what's it? That's a good. Let me see what the title is.

It's a good question. Rookie. My public, private, and secret life. Oh. He's like, I'm going to just say everything. Because he's like, didn't he get hate for the love, triangle, but now he's going to, like, expose it all or something? Maybe his side of the store.

Maybe, like, it'll make people a little bit more empathetic. You know, I feel like that does happen with books. A lot of the times, like, hearing someone's side or when you read, you put yourself in their shoes, so, you know, it can't make people. And that more interesting to me at 25. I did write one at 24. And let me tell you, there was nothing in it. There's no substance.

Because there's just, like, there's no reflection either. Like, you could write about all the way up to your life at 25 years old, but, like, you can't reflect on your life because you're in it. You know what I mean? Like I think that's not to... I do have a memoir coming out too. Quaganda the picture of it, which I didn't say. But I just think like writing...

Even 38's pretty young, although I was at the beginning of the internet. So I guess that's where it is. But 25 feels young. It gives YouTubers in 2018 making memoir. It's like... Connor Franta had one. Did Joey Grysuffa do a memoir? It's like...

I haven't read those. I would imagine... I would imagine there's not a lot in there just because like you're in the life you're living and there's no reflection. I think with a memory. you have to like reflect a little bit and you can't fully reflect. I don't know. But I guess, yeah, I guess if you've gone through something like therning, I suppose.

But that should have been the, I feel like that should have been the book is like, I survived. Yeah. Or like, you know, which anyways, I'm not sad for it, but you are. No. I just felt a little bit bad because his TikTok was quite sad. It was like, I know everyone hates me, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, damn, yeah. You're like, yeah.

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click the link in the description to download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you so much to see geek for sponsoring today's episode. Was he just, I mean, he was young. Most guys are stupid when they're young, but is there truth that did he cheat? What happened? He like kind of led Olivia on and she was also like 15 at the time. So 15, 16.

So led her on then kind of ghosted her for like Sabrina. And then, but Sabrina also didn't know about his situation. relationship with Olivia and then driver's license comes out and there's a line about you're probably with that blonde girl and then Sabrina starts getting all the hate because Olivia was so young she was like 17 when the song came out and everyone was like damn why is Sabrina like stealing this teenager's man like that and she was like girl I didn't even know they were a thing how old was Sabrina? Sabrina was like maybe 19 or 20 and how old is Josh Josh was 25 now so this was 20 21 so he was maybe like 20 or 21 at the time. and she was like... And Olivia was like 16? Olivia's 22 now. Hold me do the math. Yeah.

Oh my God. So three year difference. So she was like 16. He was like 19. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I guess that's why I also think like there should be a thing like you should be a child

at 18, 19, too, I guess because you are teen ages. That's why like when like a 30 old is a 19 year old, I'm like that's a child still. And 19 and 16, I get it. You go to high school together. So it's like I guess it's like not the worst. obviously illegal, but obviously not. I know, that's what it kind of reminds me of. It reminds me of like a sophomore dating like a senior in high school.

And then they go off to college. And they are in high school, musical, the series. Right. And was he young when he did this series? Was he like 17 then? They were in it together when they were. Oh, so she was like 15 and he was like 18 or whatever. I don't know.

And they were playing a couple in the show too. So it gets a little. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's not like the worst. I mean, a little.

Yeah. And then Sabrina comes back swinging. Well, she released one song first called Skin, which that one didn't really take off, but then emails I can't send, the album that had, like, feather and nonsense and stuff. That album, she has that song called, like, because I liked a boy,

where she was like, I'm a home wrecker, I'm a slut, because. Oh, my God, Jesus. What she was saying, like what the public opinion of her was. Oh, I bet she was like, yeah. So she's like, everyone's saying, I'm a home wrecker, I'm a slut. I got dead.

That's filling up, send my trucks. Oh my God. So she was taking her on the public perception of her after driver's license. And she was like, damn, all because I liked the boy, who I didn't even know, you know. I think J.P. Saxco wrote that song with her. Oh, really? I think so because he was telling me about that album that he co-wrote and then he said that song, I think. And I love that song.

And I love Emails I Can't Send is my favorite Sabrina album, even after the two latest that came out. I love. Yeah, I think that's the album. I never heard of it. She has another song that says something about, like, how she was helping him as he was having heart problems, thought he was going to die. Like Sabrina really went there. She was little vicious with her.

And he was still being a little f*** with all of it. God, would you imagine like dying? Would you like, actually let me go back to my other girlfriend now? I just feel like priority should be just maybe let's stay alive. That's crazy. Okay.

That's all sad. I mean, like his heart problem is sad. Also, but I guess you're still a boy. I still guess you want to go f***er round. I mean, he was a good muse, I guess. We got great music out of it and they became super famous. So. Okay.

Yeah. I wonder if he, and now he's writing a book about it, so I guess he's monetizing it, which I, hopefully it's nice because it just never looks good when a guy in this situation chimes in with his two cents, because it's like, I get it. You want to tell you trying the story about the end of the day you are the guy and you were kind of in relationship with both these girls. So like anything you say is really going to be like, okay, but you don't have to be with both of them. And one very young too. It's like, well, geez, like you're with a child and I don't know. Yeah, I don't really like it, but I feel bad for him. Then he almost died. I guess that's what he's banking on is. people being like, well, because when you said that, I was like, okay, now I feel like an asshole because he had a heart problem. But then it's also like, well, also you're, just because you're sick doesn't mean you can be with people. I don't know. I'm torn.

So sorry to Joshua Bassett. I hope that your book does well. Probably should wait a baby 10 years to do a memoir, but it's okay. I guess someone gives you that money. Like, I'm going to take that book deal. He has nothing else going on right now or what? He was doing music for a little bit to, like his own music. But yeah.

No one cared. That's one way to put it. That's what I'm saying. It's like, I feel like a guy perspective, you can't complain about this. Because what's he going to say is like, no, actually, I was honest with both of them. And they knew what was going. Like, nobody cares. Even if you were, even if you were completely honest with them, we still don't care because you still like them up.

Yeah, T. At a young age. Some guys just shouldn't. I don't think you should be allowed to date till you're 25 and a memoir till 35. I think there should be rules in place. You know what I mean? And then you can reflect on that dating at 25 to 35. But if you're a guy, absolutely not.

Not at 25. Wait to your that age. Because you do just be reckless with these girls' hearts. Well, I loved it. Do you see the Alex and Alex on SNL? No. The Brianna Chicken Fry shoutout? Uh-uh.

I didn't see that at all. Oh, my. Weekend update. They did. Oh, it was weekend update. Yes. Alex and Alex came on. I'm Alex with an E and I'm Alex with an eye.

Not the real ones. The real ones or no? Yes, the real ones were on SNLs. Are you serious? Yeah. They literally were like, okay, this is where I'm going to talk about it. Are you joking? No, I can't have missed it.

That's what's so crazy. is like, well, this is where we're going to talk about it. Are you for real? Yeah. Look it up. Oh, you're sorry. I believe you. What do you mean?

Why would they do that? You would have heard about it if it was real. Why would they do it at SNL? That is so. Well, I haven't been on TikTok, so I feel like I've missed so much. Oh, my God. Yes. And that's why they talked about the barstool cinematic universe.

Oh. And they mentioned brand and chicken fry. And they called her Zach Brian Zex. and they called her by her full name though but she was gagged she was excited she was very happy because people like brown chicken fried is not going to like that they said her ex or Zach Ryan's ex but she was gagged

she should be that's that's a big she's like I can't believe they're talking about me she was very much like I can't believe they're talking about me which I gag girl like same that's kind of a gag it's everything but at the same time too it's because it was not really because of you it's because you inserted in this job but again a gag's a gag and I'm here for it so I'm not trying to shade

I would love inserting myself But she's like, wow, they're talking about me. Like, that's so crazy. Like, I'm just, you know, I'm just the baby. I'm like, well, girl, you inserted yourself. But good for her honestly getting in there. Barstall got the shout out. They did say her full legal name.

They said Brianna chicken fried La Paglia. Oh, okay. So I, you know, a win's a win. But I did that. I thought it was really funny. I thought it was funny. Because you know, again, we talk about the gays and the girls that are like in charge. Like someone there at S&L was like, like, who was, someone was talking about this on TikTok.

And I'm so sorry because I was, I see a lot of TikToks. I don't clock it. But. someone was like, you know, somebody was like, no, the internet's going to gag, and probably the writers are probably like, what is this? Like, what is, and that's a thing that goes viral because they do know. Like someone in their knows, like this is going to go viral. And it did.

It was pretty funny. They used all their things, you know, just their usual quips of like Alex with an eye, being like, so talk about it and I'm about to talk about it. I'm going to do it right now. So it was like this whole thing. They nailed it really, really well. And then the guy, Michael Chey was just like, I had no idea what was going on. He was like, I don't know what's happening.

As probably most of the world, it doesn't. But I do love when internet leaks on to S&NN. or like to the mainstream because it's just so funny and so random. You think it's niche, but then it's like actually not. It's actually pretty big. I know. Mine thing of like Harry Daniels getting reference and this and all and stuff too, right? Right.

And I thought we, when Bone Yang left, we wouldn't get that anymore. But I guess somebody in there is still probably Chloe Feynman. She played Alex Earle. So probably her. She's probably like in touch. You know, the writers always. Shout out to the writers. They always know what's going to go viral on there.

But I can't believe you didn't watch all the clips. The clips were pretty funny this week. I liked all the Olivia Rodriguez ones. I know. And I love the music that she did too. Even she had this one little spoof song about, it was like being a human girl in a alien planet or a bug planet. And she was like the zoo.

And I was stuck in my head for like an hour. Catchy. Yeah. I love her. I do love her. I love her. Maybe she'll come on the podcast in May. Well, keep sending those DMs.

Someone said that you should send voice notes instead of DMs. So they know it's me. Yeah. To verify. I'll do that right after this. I mean, they always have the clip from the podcast to cross. That's true. Oh, yeah, that's true.

Okay, Olivia Rodriguez. We love you. Actually, girl, Josh. The girl with the blonde hair. We love you, girl. You were only 17. You are so valid for everything. Keep making those songs.

You are the voice of our generation. And we love you so much. We go hard for you here. And fuck Louie. And that other one that dated Madison B or two. Oh, all of them. All those boys suck. And you should expose them

whenever you want because you were you were literally just a baby brown i was like i'm just a baby i'm 29 but you are literally a baby girl and we have your back forever and keep making those songs forever hold these boys accountable you know what i mean if there's one thing we've learned from like taylor swept or anyway wait do we like taylor swift maybe not scratch that okay well whatever we love you girl and you're making your own path and your own lane and we love you and um would love for you to come on the show maybe we could sing we could do a little theater reference oh she used my tictox sound one time I love you. And I love you and not in like a weird, like obsessive fan way.

I'm a new fan. So I'm very much just casual, kiki, like your mother or something. I could literally be your mother. Yeah. 38. How old is she? I literally could have birthed her. 23.

Oh. Yeah. I could have had her a 15. I'm a period at 12. I could have had you at 12, honestly. So I love you. I could have birthed you. And you're everything.

And you were so good on SNL. God, double hosting SNL and doing the musical guest is a lot of work. Like, how do they do that? I don't know. And she was doing her own stunts, too. there was like behind the scenes video she would like run off one set and then go on to another set and do like her like rolling and flips and stuff yeah oh my gosh that's really impressive you're gonna do it all very impressive i was not me rolling down the hill by the way speaking of stunts that was not me rolling down the hill i had a stunt double and they did put a belly on the sun devil oh really yeah we kind of love that i wish it was i know kately nolson was going down there she was going step by step but i yeah they gave me a stunt double they actually gave me a stun double for walking up the hill even and i was like oh i could probably do that and then they show it

Thank God, because it was a little steep, but I was like, oh, I can probably do it or whatever. And, yeah, I was, like, walking up the hill and they showed that part. And I was, like, smiling because I didn't think they would, like, use it because it's, like, Caitlin going right past me. So I'm like, and they used that little part. So I'm glad that I was worth it. My risking my stuff. I was not, oh, no, I was not pregnant. I was pregnant on Euphoria.

I was not pregnant on HACs. But I did my, I did walk up the mountain by myself. It was very fun. SNL. Euphoria. I guess you have to address the other viral rumor that obviously everyone knows by now. now but you were not at the Met Gala. Um, well, first of all, where did this rumor start?

Was it? I think you started it. No, no. No, no. We know where it started. It was. Well, entertainment tonight asked me, but there, God, where did it start? It was not me.

Oscar Crave. I know Oscar Crave is boots on the ground with this. No, he was the first one. Was he? Yeah. Oh, I thought it was you. No. It was Oscar Crave.

Because I remember entertainment I asked me and I was like, oh, that's when I got flustered because I was like, wait. Like, I went, that's what I was like, wait, this is like getting too big or whatever. Oh, that's so funny. So Oscar Crave. Yeah. Maybe he was manifesting.

We don't hold it against you. Oscar Crave. But it was crazy because, yeah, everybody was convinced. Even I, there was, like, originally I'd heard that YouTube was getting a table there, like they did the previous year. So there was, like, a chance that it was going to, like, happen. But then I guess, like, obviously, like, it just didn't happen. But then Jared, my stylist, he went there.

And he had told me, too. He was like, oh, no, like, all these brands, like, love you. Like, even for hacks and stuff, he got. got me like Mark Jacob's shoes. He's like no. And so there was like people trying from all different things. So thank you, Oscar, for trying to manifest. Then when entertainment, I asked me, I was like, well, maybe, like, maybe, maybe, maybe

it's happening and I don't know. So I was like, maybe. It was just conflict with the Arby's. That's all. Like you had to stay. He had to pick one. To do the Arby's yesterday. So you couldn't be there.

That's the only reason. Okay. That's not. Okay. I love that. Okay. Yes. Well, that's what I met.

Gala. Ooh. Instead of them at Gallo. Wait, they should have done that. That's actually so good. Yes. Well, that was my tie-in one because last week we filmed it and we did a little, it was a little, it was a little Mechal. I guess it was a little Dev Wars prodigies that we did. Yeah, I, you know, next year, there's always next year. I really thought, I really think, I think it'll happen.

And I would love to go with any brand. Who's going to be there this year? Well, I guess everyone knows by now. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. We're filming this Monday. Sorry, guys. I asked, I was like, should we do it later? But we're going to have anyways because you have to go to your other job. Yeah, I have to go work at the Met. Gala from the office, so that'll be... Yeah, you're so dressed up today. But I do want to know what you think you would have worn, though.

So the theme is fashion is art. I would have been so good. And the dress code was obviously very open-ended, but it was encouraging celebrities to use clothing as a form of artistic expression and use the body as a canvas. And it's tied to the exhibition's focus on the dress body, inviting celebrities and designers to explore how fashion interacts with form rather than simply recreating famous artwork. So something is sculptural, something that reshapes the body. Oh my God.

Very dramatic. Something that would be like in a gallery. Something that, oh God. I don't even know. But it has to be like from a, is it like referencing a movie or TV or no? No, just it doesn't have to be. Yes. Just something artistic, really emphasizing like the shape of the body.

Maybe something Picasso because it's like melting, like the melting clock. Oh. Light off my belly. Dali. Dali. That's Dali, right? Okay, well. I mean, Picasso, if we wanted to go nude,

my nipples are giving Picasso. My nipples are, they're giving Picasso. It's giving where are they supposed to be. Is that the right place for them? My whole body is like that. So honestly, giving Picasso.

Who does a lot of, like, my stitches could be a lot. It could be, who's the one, who's the one that cut his ear off? Van Gogh's ear. Could be my C-section scar. There's just a lot that,

there's a lot that we could have worked with. And they really missed an opportunity for that. That would have been good. Faces of water. Just water. Just spray. You're the artist for me. It's me.

Who you might say? Moses Hackman for water photography. I do love that. It is giving what is this and we like it. But it go to anybody. We can go to anybody. I like it. That's a good one.

Yeah. What would you have been? What's your work of art? I probably would have done something very sculptural. Like where I looked really tiny and have like all these huge pieces. like built around me. So I was like a small head, big, like everything, like shoulder pads that were like all the way up to like here.

You just want to be Hassan. Oh. Yeah. Maybe that's it. I don't know. I do love sending a message to Hassan Piker. I feel like it's when I talk about it. I'm like it's like a message in a bottle.

Almost like the one Moses found that one time. Yes. In France. I'm like, you know, at one point that bottle is going to wash upon the shores of Hassan Piker. He might be at the Macal tonight. I heard her. I would not be surprised.

Yeah, he was like everywhere because he was at the Vanity Fair Party. Like, he really is getting all those exclusive invites. Although it is kind of controversial this year because of the Amazon of it all with the Bezos being. Wait, what? The Bezos are like on the committee this year. Like it's sponsored by Amazon essentially. So it is a little controversial. Okay.

But that's why I'm like, I don't know for a song, but maybe. There are a lot of protests around New York, actually. And there have been like anti-Jepazos post-refer. is being hung up all over the place. Well, exercise the right to protest. I like that. You know, go do that, I suppose. But. Haley Bailey, I hope you watch what you say this.

You know, eat the rich moment. She's still kind of referencing that. I don't know if she is like pretty good. She's like, that's my viral moment. I got to, she's going to do her Arby's campaign doing that in that same dress. I mean, when you have a viral moment, you got to write it. She's like, that's what mine is. Anyways.

Okay. So people are not, but people are always mad at the mat, right? They're always like, this is too much. Yeah, it is like, so expensive. It is very excessive. It's like just everyone being like really, really wealthy. I mean, even a ticket, like if you go with a brand or like with a designer house, I think you still have to pay like $150,000.

And then if you buy a ticket yourself, like you just wanted to go, which say like if you wanted to go yourself and have no one bring you, it would be $350,000 that you would have to pay it. But don't you have to also get invited? Like I can't just pay $350,000. There's like the people who are invited by like Vogue. And that's like one tier. And then it's the people like if the fashion house or whatever pays for you to go, it's $100,000. But then if you just like, no, I really want to go.

You could essentially buy yourself a ticket. They must have a cap though. Probably. Because you think more people would want to do that. I know some like not me personally, but my glam will like work on some like billionaire clients. And I feel like they would 100% buy it. I feel like you probably don't walk the carpet. Like that probably gets you a seat inside.

That makes sense. And I'm sure there's also used to probably have to get approved, I would think too. Yeah. Like there has to be, yeah, I think more people, because 350 is a lot, but for a lot of people, it's not. It just to be, yeah. Yeah, they would 100% do it. In the room. Although a lot of people say it's not all that.

Like, when Patro has talked about how she, she's gone a few times, she does not have a great experience there just because, like, she says you go in there and it's really hot. And like, it's just hot inside of there. There's not much to do. Yeah, it's uncomfortable. No one's eating or anything. So she's talked about how it's not that great of experience. I always love every year that's like the people who. have been quote unquote banned for the Met Gala or just say that they're not going to go.

Who else is banned? The only person that Anna has said she would not invite is Donald Trump. That was like the one actual name. Everyone else is just like they think they were banned. So we should be applauding that, right? Why are people being like, this is the one person that's like, oh, and he's not invited? And everyone else is like, that's where we should be applauding. Okay, Jeff Bezos, right.

But like, there's some people who speculate that they've been banned. Like Tim Gunn says that he's been banned from the Meggala. Tim Gunn from Project Runway. The old guy with glasses? Yes, like make it work. You know, that guy? Yeah, his catchphrase was getting old, though. Honestly, like, I remember he'd be in those commercials

and I'd be like, I don't watch the show. I don't think it's funny, but, okay, like, this is enough of that. But why'd he get banned? He told us to... Visit BetMDMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick. BetMDMDM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly, 19 plus to Wager. Ontario only.

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And not at the Met Gala, like in an office building. And he said that's the reason why he believes he was banned from the Met Gala. She's like, it only takes two guys to carry me up. Why would you say five? I'm teeny tiny. Yeah. I would put this too. I'd be like, wait a minute.

You think five guys carried me up? No, absolutely not. There's a designer, Rebecca Minkoff. She's also in The Real Housewives, but she thinks that she's been banned because she went into an elevator with Anna Winshor once because I guess there's a rule that if Anna goes into the elevator, no one else can go in with her.

Like, if you see her go in, you wait for. the next one. Oh, okay. That makes sense. And she didn't know that role. And she went in and she tried like talking to her. She's like, how are you doing today?

And she didn't give anything, obviously. And ever since she, uh, never got an invitation. That's on her honesty. That was her mistake. Honestly, I'm like that sometimes. I love to not going in an elevator next to someone. And like if I,

as ever you don't feel offended, I do it all the time. I just, I don't like, if I see someone going into an elevator at the same time as me, I'm like, I don't trust this. They might be following me up to my room. Right, you know what I don't know.

I do not trust being in an elevator with somebody. Or sometimes they ride it up and down, trying to get to a certain level. I always, always just like hold back usually, unless it's like a crowded, but usually I'll like hold back. So that's really a new girl, especially if it was Anna Winter or anybody, I would definitely wouldn't want to be like right next to that. So when Anna Winter goes off the elevator, she contacts somebody, she's like, find out who was in the elevator with me.

I need to cross. She probably knew the designer. Yeah, because Rebecca Minkoff is kind of big. I think she has like purses and stuff. Yeah, those, I remember those bags back in the day. I had one. It was like those giant blue ones. God, they were like a certain kind of tote.

I think it was Rebecca Minkoff. It was like, do you remember? Were they like neon? Kind of, yeah. There was like a neon blue. I had like a neon blue one. Did Miss Glamarazzi have? Yes.

God, it was like the purse at my head. All the YouTube like lifestyle girls all had the bag and like multiple neon colors. Yes, yes, yes. It was the Rebecca Minkoff bag. And like it was like, yeah, 2015 or something. That's the only reason I don't know who she is. She's on Real Housewives. She was on Real Housewives of New York a few seasons ago.

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He was one of the judges. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, he also like, so he was the original like interviewer for the Met Gala and then they replaced him with Liza Koshi and he worked at Vogue for so many years and was like such a big part of it. But he said that like they, Anna didn't even contact him to say that like, oh, you know, we're going to try something new. We're going in a younger direction. He just got the acts like from being the Met Gala. Oh, they just replaced him with Liza Koshi and they didn't even tell him anything. And after that, he never went back to the Met Gala, which is very sad.

But I feel like people should just know this about her that she's just that. That's it. Yeah. I think for him because he had like he was such a big part of Vogue and like was such a huge, a pivotal part of it. He thought like he would at least get an email, but nothing, which is crazy. But. Yeah, I guess you just don't get the call.

That's showbiz. That's Hollywood. You don't get that call anymore. Or I guess that's fashion. Oh, right. Same thing. I don't know. That's New York.

Okay. Right, right, right. That's the fashion. If you had never seen Devils World's Prada. I heard the Devil World's Prada to, did you watch it? I actually didn't yet because I haven't gone

in the movies in weeks because of the move and stuff and I did get a request from Jimmy Wetzel. Thank God I didn't see it because he was like, my one request is that you don't talk about, you don't spoil

Devereaux's product because I'm going to see it on Wednesday and I was like Jimmy you got nothing to worry about because I haven't seen it. I have something, but maybe not a spoiler. I don't think it's a spoiler.

I think it's, they said that so Caleb is one of the assistants to Miranda Priestley right? They said there's no scenes with them together. Like it's basically like Caleb felt

all the scenes solo. Like there's never a scene where she either you could tell they weren't filming together or that she doesn't interact with his character at all. Interesting. And she does with Simone Ashley

which is the other assistant to her is what I saw. But if you didn't see it then we have no one to confirm this. I know at least Simone Ashley's character like goes with Miranda like out on the field more if that makes. I know she goes with her to fashion shows

and like the fake Met Gala inspired event. Right. Yeah, she's got more boots on the ground. Yeah, that's what they were saying. They say she interacts with her, but not the second assistant, which I think is so interesting because in the first, I did see the first, I didn't love the first. Like Anne Hathaway and Emily Blunt are the two assistants, right?

And they get interacted with equally. I guess it's, I have to see. I'm going to see it next weekend and figure it out myself. But there's also sometimes like an assistant to the assistant as well. I see. So he's like maybe that character. That kind of is what it gives. I also didn't hear that like, I remember I told you,

Anne Hathaway made it a big thing. to have like body inclusivity and like the models and stuff. Yeah. And the reviews I read, they were like, I remember that being a part of the press store and Hathaway saying that. But they were like, where is it? Where is it? Where is it? There was people like, well, maybe one or two like curved girl.

But, you know, props to in Hathaway for giving it her best in trying to. You know, and I think I do think Caleb's part of that movement, right? The fact that he was an assistant in there. That's kind of a big deal because they could have had just like a skinny model girl or something like that. So I think that's we, if we get one, I'm happy. We had one body positivity. Yeah. I was like, that's getting there.

You know, he didn't get to interact with the star, get spoken to. But, you know, he's in there. And at least, you know, they had him promoting it. Like, he was in the junkets. He was at doing the premiere. Mia Euphoria. It was giving that. It was very much like, they're asking me questions.

And I'm like, okay, I love it. I'm part of the cast. I'm in the allure. Like, what's your character smell like? I'm like, oh, she smells like, she smells like, she smells musty. Like, I don't know. We love it. Like I said, a win.

a win for influencers and body positivity and all that we'll take it. We didn't see, we have not seen either. We ended up seeing Michael. It was so good. Did you see Michael at all? No, I'm not a biopic kind of girl. I figure B-Block some doll for MJ. I would be surprised if you didn't see it. Oh my, I don't know how I didn't see it sooner. I actually went by

myself because Moses was busy and last minute Moses was like, oh, I think I can come and I was like literally, I was like in the theater by myself. There was like one old couple behind me. I'm just like in the theater at like 1 o'clock in the afternoon because I was like I want to see it before it goes. That is a doing well? It is doing really well. It's like the highest grossing biopic so far from the opening weekend. I feel like why is, I don't know, maybe I'm not on the wrong side of TikTok. No one is gagged on my TikTok bite. Like I'm trying to find that side of TikTok, but it is doing well. Yeah, it's doing

really, really well. I saw Jake Weber make a TikTok about it. So what did he say? He loved, I mean, he, I think he was either a TikTok or Instagram story, I suppose, but he cosplay to go see it. No way. He did a little dance with this popcorn bucket in front of the, in front of the poster. Well, him and Tariammi because Tariammi also said she was a big Michael Jackson. And she asked, wow. And was Katsi there? Did Katsi see it? Oh, my.

Wait. Did she make a TikTok? Let's see. Let's see. Because they both did take TikTok saying they were big Michael Jackson fans. I did see Jake Webber moonwalking in like his house. So maybe, oh, my God, that's crazy. Because then Taramiami was like, I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan.

Like I was, I was like, oh, I do love all the Michael Jackson fans that are coming out. And yes, Bond Central Farm. MJ is for Michael Jackson. I don't know how people didn't know that. Like that was always it. Back in the day when people could- Just see moonwalking into theater. Oh, was that it?

I thought it was dressed up. My bad. My boss reporting. He's like him. He's in pajamas. I mean, it is giving Michael Jackson cosplay. He would be in pajama pants a lot. That is giving that.

That's so funny. We should all do the moonwalk. That's our next dance swim. It was so good. I DM Jafar Jackson. I already. I was like, can you please come on the podcast? Like, it's so, so good.

The Mingo Coleman was Joe Jackson, which is so crazy. He's like, legend. He was so good in it. There were so many amazing people in the movie. And it was so many amazing people in the movie. And it was so. good. I hope everyone will see it. Michael Jackson lived off Havenhurst, Havenhurst and Ventura.

Have you ever drove past it? That's where, oh, I can't say who lives, but yes. Oh, do we know? Do I know who lives there? Yeah. Did you ever drive past Michael Jackson's house? I mean, I would go on that street a lot, so. Oh, my God, I wonder if you saw it. Because I guess now it's like opened up a bunch of influences, got to go to the house

and stuff like, that's so random that he lived there. I feel like you would know because it's like right there off like Ventura. It's like right there. And it's like, I guess people just camp outside of it and stuff like that all the time. You? Yeah. Well, mine was Neverland. That was the one I went to up in Los Alives is where that one was.

Oh. Yeah. The Havenhurst is like where his family lived and then he had Neverland branch. Oh, that was like the Jackson family house. Yeah. And that's where the movie, the majority of the movie took place. I see. Yeah, because I remember Jafar talking about how he, when he was preparing for the role,

like he would spend nights in Michael's old room. But when he was growing up, his room was mostly Janet Jackson's room. Oh, okay, Michael Jackson, I did see all this too. Wow, you were in, you were the weeds of it. Oh, did you edit it? Oh, when he said, Auntie Janitz. He was like, yes, I was in Auntie Janice room. I was like, oh, it's so cute.

Oh, my God. It's so, it's so good. Oh, my God. Just, like, made me, like, feel so good. I guess the second one is already happening. Like, they've already said, oh, you knew that. I didn't know. I was like, wait, why did they stop in 1988?

But it's already, like, happening. Yeah, because they filmed a lot, and I think they saw the film more, but I would assume there's a lot, just from, like, on set photos. there was a lot of stuff they filmed that was not in this one. So I'm assuming that stuff is being held for. They like rebuilt Neverland Ranch, which I was like, oh, they didn't show any of that in the movie. Which, yeah, that's where I used to hang out. Obviously, like, don't show up to people's houses, but we would just like, but Michael

Jackson was one of those few people that would come outside his house and, like, talk to the fans, which is like so insane. Like, why would you do that? But, like, yeah, I should just sit out there with my dad and we'd just, like, be waiting for Michael Jackson and sometimes he would come out. And it was, it was everything. It was Lose to Levos, which isn't too far from us. It's like an hour, but it was a far drive for.

for my dad because my dad lived in like far. So it took us like three and a half hours to get up. And yeah, we used to hang outside the courthouse when he went to the Santa Maria courthouse. Like just just love Michael. You just understand a lot of him and everything he went through with that movie. It was a really good movie. It was really well done. I really liked it.

I would love to be in the second half. I would make a great debbie. No. And some goes back in time. Or I guess maybe Malibu can play like young you like outside of his house. That's actually, yeah. That's actually pretty. accurate. That was, oh my God, that's so funny. I threw out my back. I was already so laughing.

It hurts my back. I'm just like, I literally picked up out and like threw it out. Oh, that would be so funny. I would love to. I was thinking maybe playing like the, his wife, Debbie Rao. She was his nurse. And the father, the mother of his kids, um, and she kind of disappeared. And I'm so fascinated by her. And then I was looking at pictures. I was like, I could play her. So if you ever need a Debbie in there, I would love to. I would do it justice. I, love the characters, respect the characters, not characters. Either people so much, I would love if you have not already cast it. It was just so, some of those movies just want to be a part of.

I'm like, how could I, I would love to be Michael Jack. Like, I would love to cosplay, but I don't know. Like, I don't know what I would. Because we were watching the videos and it was, God, his videos were so good. And I'd done a couple dance videos back in the day that were pretty good. And I just love, you're giving Michael Jackson with the black, pant white, sock, and black shoes. You were giving.

No glove, though. Oh, the glove is kind of iconic. So you weren't not a Michael Jackson fan. you don't know anything about him. No. But you know the glove. You know a lot. I learned a lot during this press tour.

Okay, okay. We had a lot of interviews with Jafar and honestly all the Jackson's. Well, most of the Jackson's. Wait, who else? What are the Jackson's? Latoya, we talk to a lot. Oh. The family was really involved.

Like, the Michael Jackson estate was really involved with the film. But not Janet. Not Janet. No. Latoya. But Latoya, yeah. She's always talking. She's always been talking.

Really? Really? Really? She's like 94 now. She was out of the premiere and she watched the movie before it came out and she approved of it and stuff. So, Jackson. Yeah, they did a good job. Obviously, it's only up until 1988, but they did a pretty good job because they did a biopic before with another famous Michael Jackson and Persader.

I forget his name. I think that's the name. Maybe. It was horrible. It was horrible. They did like the worst biopics ever and they were in Amy Winehouse. Did you ever watch that one? The Amy, the recent one, like last year or the two years ago?

Oh, was it last year? It was fairly recent, right? Yeah, I think so. I just saw some clips when I'm like, it was rough. That was rough. That was like, why did they do that? Like, I hate when they turned a biopic.

I saw the Aaliyah one they did. Did you ever watch that one? No. That was like a Lifetime one horrible. They had like this weird R. Kelly in there. It was very, very weird. The Britney one. Do you ever watch that one on Lifetime?

Brittany ever after? No. Oh my God. That one was like hard. Did we watch it together? I don't think so. And Justin Timberlake had just like this weird, like literal literal ramen on his head.

Like, it was so low budget. That was whole. horrible and then there was one other biopic that was just maybe the michael jackson one the original michael jackson one was so made him look so weird but anyways i really liked michael but we never go see the movies and i really made an effort to go see that one because i was like i need to see this before it like leaves theaters and i'm so glad we did but yeah maybe maybe the next one either me or malibu could be in we would we would absolutely love to it's it's interesting to see a lot of people that never heard of him or heard of him but never heard his music that saw the movie and they said

that since they saw the movie, they can't stop thinking about him and they can't stop going back to listen to the music and all that because, I mean, it is incredible music. So good. And for people that never experienced the music and also seeing it in the movie and him, it's like, it's such a unique experience. And it's just exciting, I think, to see people discover the music and enjoy it again. Yeah, I feel like we put on like the Jackson Five like ABC and like Elvis will like dance to it. And it's cool because that's how I like knew about that's why I learned about Selena.

Like I was alive when Selena was alive, but I don't remember her because I grew up in like the Midwest And we just didn't know about like Selena. But like when the movie came out, I remember being so gagged and I remember being like I need to know everything about the original Selena. And like it was so good. That's why biopics are good. That's why I like biopics. You get to like learn a little something. And the music itself.

It just holds. Yeah. It was like a concert. It was so good. Oh my God. He looked just like him. What will he do after this? Like I feel like when you look like Michael Jackson, there's only so much you can do, right?

Like he is talented, of course, on his own. But like you just see Michael. Like how do you? I know. act more after this and he is really good in it but also a good singer and the voice and everything too was kind of great like his speaking voice

was like insane yeah was he singing at all in the movie isn't that crazy oh I thought it sounded just like him or something the dancing everything sounded looked in just like it it was so crazy yeah the speaking voice he didn't go too method like I feel like on the red carpet like he kind of talks like his self yeah as was awesome Butler

who just does Elvis everywhere he goes which I love but I love that he can go in and out of the voice the Michael Jackson voice is hard without sounding like you're mocking him because it's so high. Thank God they had someone like in the family that could do the role though. Like imagine if they had to like go outside of the family to cast. Like that would have been really hard. I feel like they tried with that other biopic.

They tried. I feel like they tried to because there's so many Michael Jackson impersonators that they could have like gone to. But yeah, he looked just so much like him, which is crazy. There are pictures of them together too. I like looked up pictures of. Yeah. When they was and he looks. Yeah, he looks just like him.

It's so crazy. It's Jermaine's son, right? Uh-huh. I went down that whole rabble hole, too. Did you see, did you guys report on any of that or no? No. I know something about who, beefing with who. Germain was beefing with someone or no?

Well, Jermaine and Randy have the same baby mama. Oh. Yeah, it was Randy had kids with this woman. And then she had kids with Jermaine. Oh. Kind of crazy. But I guess it works for that. Mormon's do it.

I'm sure. I guess it's, you know what I mean? Yeah. Kind of crazy, right? Yeah. I don't know. Messy for sure. Messy.

Maybe not. I think they do like events and stuff together. But I'm sure at the time. Oh, right. Maybe not. Maybe some people are so chill. I think Michael had beef with Jermaine though because even in the movie he's just like, love all my brothers.

Even you, Germain. Like I'm like, so I wonder if like there was ever beef and how ironic that Jermaine's son is playing Michael, you know? Because I think Jermaine tried to have a solo career. Germain was very talented. I mean, you know, he was. But it's hard when your brother's Michael Jackson. I mean, you just can't.

I think at that point. you have to concede. Right? No, you have to. You don't always have to be at that level. I don't know. I think when you have such a famous sibling, like how,

you just can't. But you have to do something and if that's what he enjoys doing. All right. And he did. I think they performed together in 2001 at the Mass and Square Garden. Right before 9-11.

That was two days before 9-9. Isn't that crazy? I remember it so specifically. Like 9-10? Yeah. Oh, my God. September 9, September 10, 2001. And I remember at the time

the Michael Jackson thing was big And then remember that governor That Gary who like Unalived allegedly that that That you remember that What? Yeah it was like an intern that got like killed Gary shanned it

Gary shand it or something He was like a political person And then yeah the 9-11 happened the next day And everyone's like and everyone just stopped talking about that The politic person that killed But he like murdered allegedly But there was like his intern went missing And everyone's like

And so people just stopped talking about it And then I was like they probably did 9-11 to distract it oh that's what people thought anyways I don't know, not me, but it was, anyways, that was a time. Well, I was 13 at the time. Well, you don't want to hear about 9-11. And I was, that's why I first, actually, yeah, I remember, like, seeing Michael Jackson and I remember like, oh my God, like he was so amazing.

Was I 13? Was I 13? Yeah, I guess I was 13. But that was, like, one of the first times that I was like, oh, my God, Michael Jackson, like, as a performer. Like, I had seen him in, like, Captain EO, which was, like, a thing in Disneyland and stuff like that. But I remember, like, becoming, like, fan fan then.

I was like, wow, he's everything. He was good looking. He was very good looking. even before all the work, before all the nose jobs and stuff like that. He was a good-looking guy. So sad. And 9-11 was sad, too. All of it was.

They said Michael Jackson was supposed to be in the World Trade Center the next day. Like, he was supposed to have a meeting. Who is that? It's a theory. It's a big... Oh, a theory or is it confirmed? No, I think it's confirmed. I don't know.

You know, also people just... They said Mark Wahlberg were supposed to be on the plane. You know, people would just also say whatever. Be like, oh, actually, I was... Well, I guess another famous family, the Kardashians. Because you know Northwest released her EP I was kind of gagged. No, why come no one's talking about it?

That's what I was kind of wondering too. Like it was kind of a big deal to me. I mean, I heard some snippets of the songs. Actually, for our 12 year old, really good. I would imagine. I mean, say what you went about Connie is pretty musically gifted. I would assume she would be. And she kind of had some bars in there too.

Was she rapping? Yeah, it's like a rap. It's like an emo thing. It's like emo meets rap. Like emo rock meets rap. Little machine gun Kelly kind of. That was great. I mean, what the hell, sure.

I don't know. I don't know one Michigan and Kelly song, but that's the vibe I get from him. He's a little I love it. I need to get this one lyric because I've been thinking about it a lot. You think she wrote it? I think so. I really do think so. Maybe she'll be at the Met tonight.

Okay, she, it was in her song, How Should I Feel? I also love because, like, it's very MySpace core. Like she replaces the eyes with exclamation points and the E's with a three. Oh, I love that. Mary Neon, too. Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's. Yes, actually. Right.

He does that. Yeah. He's been all over my timeline with Alabama worker. But one of the lines in how should I feel is copying my hair. I'm about to trademark the teal and which I like really love my. Copy my hair trademark the teal. I mean, it was, it is kind of her thing. But everyone was like, okay, but like don't forget Auntie Kylie also.

Don't forget off Tickeyele. Well, she did the, like, teal's hips. Yeah, that's true. Or did she do teal hair? I don't know. I think it was like umbrae, right? Like an... To Ombre Institute?

Like, Black Institute? I remember the extensions everyone got from, like, Bell and Me were those. And North's is more just all teal. Yeah. And then she also put like studs. Like the studs where you would stud like a denim jacket or something. Like she put that in her head too. She's like...

She's a cool girl. She's a really cool for 12-year-old? Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I know. does she just feel seem older and she produced the album herself too like she sings it she probably be a genius she probably be a genius she is kind of giving musical prodigy yeah wow and she had her own pop-up event at the at the complex pop-up the one where i went for like olivia

and sabrina carpenter oh yeah yeah oh my gosh what was she doing she was uh debuting her EP songs there conier was performing i don't think she was performing like she's this music was playing and she was singing along to it, but she was selling her all merch and stuff. Wow. And people were gagged. I think so. That's good. Yeah. She probably is like, she probably is like so talented. I mean, obviously like both of her parents it would leak down into her.

And obviously she's done other stuff before she performed with Kanye when he did Sofi, Sophie. And she was in FCA Twigs music video too last year. And I didn't know this, but she's going to be performing at a

music festival. Wow. Which one? Lyrical Lemonade Summer Smash in Chicago With other rappers Including Playboy Cardi Low Ouzi Verit, Scrilix Sexy Red and Chief Keefe Why did he his skrillx? Is he a rapper? I don't know.

I don't know who he is I remember the name. It was kind of old, right? I know what he has glasses, right? And he has like, I think, shaved side of his head or something. Yes. Oh, yes.

I remember him from Epic Rap battles. They did like a Skrillx verses. Oh, so he is a rapper. Okay, yes. But it was someone playing him. Oh my gosh. The Arby's we got oh my The Meat Gala

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The size of it? That's amazing. Oh, it's doing well. Mm-hmm. That's good. That's not something I usually get like at fast food. Like it's so good. That's all of Arby's.

Arby's always like that. Like their stuff is like, yeah, it feels like you should be like at a sit-down restaurant to get it. It's just such good quality too. Yeah, that's amazing. Let's see. Oh, yeah. BRB trying Arby's.

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and they like, it closed. And I was so sad. And I was like, oh, no. And the iconic Arby's in Hollywood was that big sign. Oh, my God. I loved going there. When I would do audience work after Deal or No Deal, because it was right there on like Sunset Gower.

Or was that Family Feud? I think that's Family Feud there. We would go, oh, yeah, Deal or No Deal was that in Culver City. But anyways, we'd go to the Arby's right across for lunch break. And they only pay you like $8 an hour to sit in the audience. But I remember I would take like $16 and spend it on Arby's. I get the mozzarella sticks, the curly fries, the shakes, bring home to like my mom and sister. It was so good.

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They're just really out there doing the marketing. And we love to see him. All right. So Northwest, well, I'm down to listen to her album. North West had a new album. That's what you missed. She has a new album that came out that she produced. Oh, see.

He's in the nose. He's like a saw, heard it. You like it? Yeah. They saw there were so many celebrities going to where there were the pop-up. Yeah, the complex pop-up. And who else was going? I know he said Kanye.

Bianca. Kanye and Bianca. Yeah. People were just, you know, keeping him like, you know, nice for supporting his daughter. Yeah, of course. Doing everything for her. Yeah, that's nice. Was Kim there?

No, not at the pop-up. They've been posting about it, though, the whole Kardashian family. Even Raw-Cardashian came out of his social media. hiatus question mark or just absence to post about North's new EP which is really sweet yeah that's nice supporting yeah I'm actually really happy for North it's so crazy though because like I guess I had 12 I was online like new stuff but like when I think of myself as 12 I think of myself as a baby like right now right even though like I was on my space and stuff and I was like pretty with it I would think yeah but it's the concept of like a 12 year old releasing an album and like having her own like identity and

brand already is kind of crazy to me. But she got it. I mean, she's good. I get it. I think I wrote my first album at 12. I remember. And you remember. I did. I did write a script. I was called The Young Price of Divorce at 240 pages at 13.

I sent to unsolicited everywhere and it got sent back to me. I did. At my album, my sister remembers is called Angel and the Devil. When she's here, we can talk about it. And I remember being like, this is my album. This is my debut. Probably at 10, honestly. So I see it.

I get it. The only difference, Kanye is not your dad. That's the only difference. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in that case. I know. If you had a little bit of nepotism, you would have been a...

I would have loved it. I think there's like, I would have loved it because that's how that's the only way you get in, really. I mean, congrats to Northwest. She's living a very different life. I mean, she's being like on stage on stadium tour with Kanye and singing and doing stuff. You remember that one? She's like, what are those? These are clothes.

I love that one. was crying. Yes. And I was like, honestly, work same. I would, do. Like, your daughter's, like, on stage. I always think about that because everyone was always once like, oh, Malbu should come on the stage.

I'm like, I don't know. I feel like that's, like, can be scary. And if it's scary for a kid, either a kid thrive or some kids. Yeah, they have to like kind of want it. Yeah. Yeah. I can't just like bring her out on stage. She might be like, what is this?

But yeah, the fact that Northwest did that, I'd probably be crying. She's such a natural. She was out there just living her best life. Who started that? The what are those? It wasn't Jake Paul, was it? No. Because I remember he did that to the reporter where he's like, what are those?

And then... Was it a vine? And they like knocked his camera out of his arm face. Oh, maybe. Maybe it's a vine. I don't know. I wasn't on Vine like that. I think it's an old reference.

What are those? Yeah, it was a vine trend. Who started it? She's coming back, by the way. Fine? Nobody wants Vine. I think it's Divine. What?

Divine? The Dr. The guy that made the original... The guy that made the original... They got him in the original Twitter, Jack Dorsey. So I think he bought the old vine and they're putting it back. And the only thing that's unique about this one is that no AI contact is allowed on it. Wait.

So was that allowed before on the original wine? I don't think AI was as prominent back then. But now, but now let's say TikTok is like everywhere you go. Oh, I see. So I see. That's good. So that's support it for that. I just, who wants vine back?

I can't deal with the fact that they're only five seconds, right? You get six. Yeah, six seconds. That's kind of crazy to me because like that would be. I know. You are fast talker, but we have a lot to say. What can you get out in six seconds? Let me tell you, no quality content.

I was watching some old vines. I'm like, this all sucks. It's all like literally just racist. Like everyone on there was just like doing racist jokes, which I get it's a different time. But like, what do you mean? That was the comedy. Like, it was so weird. That's a thing.

None of it was funny. None of it. Objectively, and none of it was funny. Like, I could ask a thousand people and no one would be like that was so funny. Unless, of course, if you're like a 10 year old, okay, maybe. But I'm talking about like an adult, like a well-adjusted adult. Like, nobody thought that was funny.

Like, it's so weird. And like, who wants that back? I know that there were some vines I would laugh at. Like, but they weren't by like creators. They were like kind of like happenstance. You know, like there was one vine of there's a girl walking in the supermarket and someone prank her and put like a fake route on the soda cans or something. And the person finally went, what is that?

And she looked over and saw the fake rat. She goes, hey! I can have to see it, maybe. I trust you. I'm explaining it terribly, but that's, like, one I can think of. Okay. But I can't think of, like, a viner that I was, like, seated for. You know what I mean?

No Britney for a lawn. I don't even know what she did on Vine. I actually. She could be funny. Who knows? I never saw one of first. Is Brittany broskey? Her kombucha?

Oh. Was that a vine? That seems like a vine. I don't know. Where did that originate? I might have been taking it. For some reason, vines seems like 50 years ago. Yeah. Oh, same.

It was. Now that I'm looking for it and it's already called D-Vine, like D-I-Vine. But the videos that I see here are from 2015, 2016. Oh, they're bringing back the old vines. So I think it's coming back with everything that was on it. I do know. Let me see. I'm trying to find out more.

That's where. The devil himself originated. Oh my God. I just, I knew all of them think they were such innovators. Specifically, Zane and Heath were like, no, nobody was doing what we were doing on Vine. And I was just like, I get it. But also like there were YouTubers. There were like Jenna Marbles before.

Like they act like they were like the originator of like content creation that like brands just started working with influencers because of Viner's. And it actually just like, it actually annoys me so much. Not even because I think I started anything. Trust me. I was not doing brand deals. but like there were massive smosh and general marble there was like massive YouTubers even Michael Buckley that were getting like brand deals before Viner's so it just like annoys me when they think they like started the brand deal influencer that's like

no influence we're not making money for us I'm like no they like literally were like are you so stupid they also said they started saddle ranch which I'm like are you so stupid it irritates me so much yeah they literally think yeah they made it popular which is like so not true that's been popular yeah that was where you would get paparazzi paparazzi rock of love film there like there's so much stuff happened there and it's just like, it actually annoys me so much. And I think they try to rage bait me on purpose. Especially the Zane and Heath of it all.

I went to go watch what they call their iconic vines. And like, I don't remember any of it. And I was around. I was on Vine. I remember Day Storm. I remember King Batch, Amanda Sernie. Even Brittany for a lot. I remember them.

No one remembers is Zane and Heath, cigarettes and coffee. That was our viral thing. I was it? Because I can't find one clip of it online. You know what I mean? And not to drag Zane and Heath because they're with our girls, Remy, Alicia. Okay.

But like, thank God they found Remy and Alicia. They got the rebrand of a lifetime. But it's just like those were not it and they talk about it as if they were just like kings of the world So weird I don't even know what David did on there never looked him up but Wild it's gonna be AI free all the old videos are back Oh god, but I'm just trying to see if there's something new because I think like any platform like even TikTok started very short and slowly They brought longer form you remember it went up to a minute and then it went up to 10 three minutes and 10 minutes and so I think it's It's probably going to do the same.

And then it's not really fine anymore, is it if you can do a longer than six second video? Maybe. I think, but the only thing now that I read from all of this is that no AI content is the only thing that's unique about it. That's kind of cool, I guess. Then you're, you know, AI does seem like it's going to seem like the end of the world, kind of. Like, it does seem like this world could be over soon. And the two camera mode, I guess, when you see yourself. Oh, I don't really like that feature.

Why would you want that? Why would you use that? It seems to be an app. that came out that was just that. Be real. Were you on there? I was not on Be Real. I'm a very slow adopter to the new apps.

Like I stick to the core and I'm like you prove yourself to me before I invest any time. You're still not even on TikTok. Barely, yeah. Do you post there? I tagged you, but not really. He's still waiting to see if it's going to be a successful platform. Yeah, yeah. Or I'm so I'm actually holding out on the Ted Nivison Club.

Oh, that's got to be the first one. Okay. Can I have them come back again? It is crazy. You don't post TikTok. I made one edit of, what was it? Oh, State Side, the Pink Panther is featuring Gar Larson boots. That's my ego boosts.

My whole ain't been loose for a minute. Oh, right, right. I did post that just because it really tickled me, but, you know, I don't know if TikTok's really my journey like that. I love TikTok. Until Ted's here, and we do another cat's eye dance and then, yeah. Oh, with Ted. Does he dance? No.

Oh. But I think for me, he will. Well, you should get dancing on there because you're actually really good at it. You should do more TikTok dances, like the trendy dances. Party, Emilio, is a little scared. Watch out. That Bob is coming for her. Watch out at 11 to Midnight.

Do you know them? Connor Levitt is making his off-Broadway debut in 11 to Midnight show. Oh, that's Connor. You don't know 11 to Midnight? They were on TikTok couple and like, I don't know how you describe them, babe. They're like a couple that does like They do dances that are specifically for Tick-Tox So most of the moves

Like they always stand next to each other One is a bit forward one is a bit back And all the moves it's always the same moves Because you have to get kind of vertical in the frame Oh Not in a shady way but they're always doing like No I mean they're good dancers They're very good at what they do

But there's only so much you can do But they got big They got sponsors and things Yeah they were doing like sponsorships With the big movies people hate on Megan Traynor for all her songs sounding the same, but it's like they dance and it's fine. Like I feel like that that's your niche.

My stuff is the same. Like I feel like why does Megan Turner get so much hate because they say all her songs are the same? It's like, well, oh, their names are Costa Mayor. But their show is called 11-in-man-night. It's off Broadway. But they have like Nealong, Heather Morris. Like they have big acts going into there. And Connor Love it is like making his debut, which is like so crazy because I think it's a dance show.

So I'm like, I wonder if he's dance. I did a comment. And then people are like, wow, way to be shady. It's like, oh, this is so random. But I love it. And then I was like, wow, way to be shady Trish. You always think he's Shading Connor for some reason. I love him.

Wait, do they see? I love it. No, I just remember like the money. What did you call him? Everyone, you said all the dad talks are like troll. What did you say? And he used the sound of like, you talking about. They're all ugly except for Connor.

No, it was before that. Oh. You said some chopped in unk, I think. And then you try to blame it on me, but it was really you that said it. I always will blame Oscar. He said chop dunk. And I said, did I say except for Connor? Or I just said everyone was chopped and unc.

You just said all of them. of, yeah. Before I knew Connor's lore. I love it. I'm glad he is. I just like, like, it's like if Moses was doing that show, 11 to midnight, I'd be like, oh, this is so random because you don't dance, but like, love it. Like, is you going to be cooking?

Because I think what they said is like, welcome to this talented magician. And I was like, oh, okay, work. Yeah, maybe he's doing magic there, which I thought it was a dance show. But it's like, I would love. And I would love it. If Moses did an off Broadway show, I'd be like, oh, this is everything. But also everyone would be like this kind of random. But we would love it.

It's not even random. You are a dancer. Actually, you should be on 11 to midnight. You're actually a dancer. I forgot. Costumere, if you want another one. Huh? Sorry, I'm too busy cooking, but...

You could cook on it. No, you could break out some dancing for them. You're so good at dancing. Actually, I would love to see you on that. Maybe you and Connor. I don't know if he's dancing. I don't know what he's doing, but Whitney Levitt is officially leaving Secret Lives and Mormon Wives announced on Chicago.

Is it? Are you being sarcastic? I have a little shock. I feel like... if I'm on a hit show, like I get it. But it's like, I get being like tired, but damn, when something's working, I think we talk about the other time with this podcast is like, if it's working, I'm just going to keep going. Because it's like, there's so many things that just like fall apart.

And if you're on a hit shell, like, how do you leave it? That's true. And we don't know what she has lined up, though. Of course. No, she probably does have a lot of stuff. But think about it. Think about even me. I'll put it back on my perspective, right?

It's like I get all these opportunities. We get Arby's. We get to go on tour. Why? Because the podcast is really successful. And I think that obviously she's like a star of course can do it on her own, but like wouldn't it help? Everything helps when you're on the show. Like obviously they told her if you do secret lies and Mormon wives, you can get on dancing with the stars.

But she only got dancing with the stars because she had to do that season again. And I don't think that's anything, there's nothing bad about that. Like I think that's and like obviously make your decision. Maybe it's like her mental health. Maybe she doesn't want to be associate with Taylor. Like there's so many reasons. But like I just feel I would just stick with it. I would love to be on Secret Lives and Mormon Wives.

I wish I was on the OC one. Like I would love to be on a franchise that's big because it only, escalates. I'm saying like maybe she has another something equal to that lined up. That's the only reason because I agree with you. Otherwise, I would not leave. I don't think so. I think that even if they have a spinoff, it's not the same.

It's just like not it. If you're not on it, you disappear eventually. Yeah, I'm, I'm kind of shocked. I don't know. I just feel like she is now more than ever she's the star, right? Because it's like Taylor, Frankie Paul, like all this stuff like that. Like I think now more than ever people would be tuned in. But you don't teach their own.

I just think like, damn, stay on that. stay on the winning ship for as long as you can. Yeah, I think this one's tough because it's kind of enshrouded and very serious scandal now too. And the last season, even though everyone was like really pro-witney, I think she, the drama was like really real for us as far as like the friendship drama. Like she thought her in general one thing and then she finds out the girl had it out for her, you know? Yeah.

And with the allegedly gay husband, too, being so rude to her. Which one was gay? The Affleck. Yes. What's his name? I mean, it's confirmed, no. Who confirmed? This is a man all over again.

You're just confirming things because you've been. I thought he's out. She doesn't make TikToks with him anymore. Okay, maybe not. Don't comfort me. This is entertainment purposes only this show. Do not cover me why I really thought. Okay.

Because he was out. He's out of the TikToks. Like, he's just not around anymore. That's funny. Honestly. like if he came out gay that's like a good rebrand for him yeah i think that's the only thing yeah i'm gonna save him but um yeah i think the drama was like just a little too real and her and honor can get the leave it to levitt spin off oh that i think would really eat yeah i look

i massive when he stands so i'm down for it is crazy i think the door will always be open for her like if she ever like wants to come back yeah things like slow down with the other stuff i think they would take her back like really quickly giving christine quinn after selling sunset and then comes back and stuff and you're like yeah we love to see you yeah I guess if your star is just too bright I guess I've just never been a part of anything successful so I'd just be like I'm gonna stay on the show forever you know what I mean I just try and get in where you can't but fair enough I get that yeah did you hear about I'm gonna actually pump this to Moses instead of you Trisha okay did you hear about the clavicular lawsuits yes yes of course Moses is so plugged in

against my wheel but yes how are you so plugged in like literally he's so exhausted we at my family over this weekend and he's just like constantly like cooking and taking care of everything and getting us around everywhere like he's just constantly going like how do you have any time like you're falling asleep at 8 o'clock how are you seeing any of this stuff? I just kind of like beams into me like I never see him on his phone once ever he's like asleep by the time like we crawl into bed like what how we went to bed at like literally 630 last because everyone was so exhausted I don't know you can't tell you just I would love to know I've never once seen you on your phone this weekend I just absorbs information oh my god okay

You probably had time to come see the movie with me. I didn't know how you're time for this. What is it? What's happening? Another influencer, Alexandra Mendoza, claims that she met clavicular when she was just 16. And he wanted her to be the face of female looks maxing. Okay. And the lawsuit claims that she paid him $1,000 to help boost her online following.

and during that time, he gave her excessive amounts of alcohol at a party and had sex with her without her being able to consent. Oh, my God. And she was underage. Oh, my God. What? Yeah. And then another part of the suit says that clavicular injected her face with the fat dissolving compound called Aqualix during a live stream. And it was broadcast without her permission and without him being licensed, obviously.

and she also alleges that the injection contained meth. She is seeking damages in excess of $50,000. And suing for emotional distress, battery, fraud, and unauthorized publication of her name and likeness. And Steve Kramer, who's clavicular's legal representative, has refuted the allegations and says that Braden Peters, government name of clavicular, disputes the characterization of a discutes the characterization of a judge.

events. That's a crazy lawsuit. That is, I mean, that's a lot in there. There's a lot in there. I mean, that's like not just one. That's like $5.50. And I haven't heard too much about it. I was like, when I saw Popov, I was like, why isn't this everywhere?

Considering clavicular is kind of everywhere right now. But we said he was like modeling in fashion shows or something. Wow. That is, I haven't heard once about this. I know. It's not kind of crazy. Is it, is it like, is it like, is it like, is it like, is just, yeah, it's, it's, This lawsuit was filed last week.

I mean, all the stuff we hear. I know, like all that weird lines up, right? Obviously, we saw him like over, like, obviously he's admitted to being on drugs. Like, obviously he has a lot of issues. Yeah. Very problematic. Um, that's crazy. And the injecting, all the stuff happened on the stream.

Oh, my. So it's facts. So it's like, it's a fact. Video evidence of part of the. He's injecting here on stream? Where? How is he not? How is he allowed on any?

I guess kick. Anything can happen. It's on kick. Yeah. And he's still on kick. Yeah. He did get banned. He gets, I mean, it's kind of like Moses said.

He gets banned like every other week, but probably like a day and then he comes back. But like, how is that legal to like inject people live, overdose live? Like, I just feel like that's. I know. I mean, that's almost like negligence on like the platforms part, right? I mean, and it's so big. It's so massive. It's an underage girl at that.

Like, what? I guess YouTube, I think banned him. I think they kicked him off completely. I did see that. That he was like permanently banned. So shout out you too. But that's, I mean, she should sue more for 50,000. I mean, it should be like a million.

She's going to have therapy for like the rest of her life. Like it should be like $5 million, girl. Like that's. Or also he should be like in jail. Like, right? Like I know. I'm surprised of the amount she's asking for. Yeah.

Maybe there's some other angle to the lawsuit that will come in later. Like a what they call it? more of a private lawsuit like a civil lawsuit um that's wild and how come no one's talking about i don't know damn i know there's one thing it's like everyone's like okay we're sick of cancel culture but then it's also like constantly yeah i feel like we're okay we need to talk more about this and less about me being a hack on hacks i feel like this should be the twitter trending topic like how come this isn't getting attention like what do you mean it's so crazy yeah oh my It's wild how people just cling on.

Or the Megan Trainor hate. I keep seeing this everywhere too. Everyone's so pissed her new album. And just like, but like there's clificalers out there, you know? And it's just so crazy how people like pick things to hate on. Like train. Sending me to the moon. Right.

Guys, they just get away with everything. Guys get away with literally everything. And it's so annoying. That's like such a perfect segue. To my big hot topic was Joey Grycepha getting canceled for rescuing another pregnant dog. I was like, this is kind of nuts. What? Yes.

What happened? What's the controversy? Okay, so he rescued a German shepherd that was going to be euthanized. She was about to give birth within like a day or two days. And it blew up on TikTok. Like, it popped up for me on my TikTok. And the first part, and it's a multi-part series, the first part got like 10 million views. Joey on his YouTube?

On his TikTok. And on Instagram blew up too So it went really viral And it got covered Like on a lot of other like sites and stuff too Because I guess it was just like the visual This dog was like very sweet Had like very sweet eyes

And like was very expressive weirdly And yeah he adopted her from Or rescued her from a kill shelter And she was like on the euthanized list Like right before she was gonna give birth Oh my god And he took her home And then like within a day or two day

She gave birth Okay And it felt like... Is he birthing them? Like, is he helping deliver? He kind of gives Dula. You know what I mean? Like he's...

Wow. Who's levering the babies? I mean, the dog does most of the work. But is he like pulling it out? No. The dog will... Case by case it varies. This is just me recalling for my personal experience.

Okay. The dog does most of the work. He kind of just steps in just to ensure that like... Oh, God. The mom will like lick the baby clean and like bite off the umbilical cord and stuff. He's like doing like same work. I feel like he should be like sanctified. Oh my god

this is insane. It actually it's crazy. When I like had a help him with this like I would get ill because like yeah that's a lot. He genuinely like loves it. Like he does live for it like he does not get gross at all like the craziest smells and colored liquids are coming out and these like placenta sacks and everything and the mom has to like eat the placenta and all this stuff.

And he like loves it. He's like okay make sure you bite them political core, make sure you eat the placenta. Oh, like, he's like a dog whisper. I know, like he really puts everything into it. Oh, no. What are they canceling him? Okay. Okay.

So I just... He's eating the placenta? Like, what? I just learned about this too, and I guess very like morally ambiguous, I suppose, but a lot of dog, you know, the dog people. The dog people are hardcore. Yes. But a lot of people were mad at him for rescuing a pregnant dog.

that was about to give birth because a lot of people think that the dog should have been, they call it like spay abortes. Like they get spayed and as they're getting spayed, they also perform an abortion so the dog doesn't give birth. So people are mad that he adopted. This dog is helping raise the puppies instead of the dog getting a spay abortion. Well, how do they know the dog wanted that? Like I don't understand who's, how come they can make the choice and that? I don't understand.

It's like, are we pro-choice? Like, what are we? Or is that, are they better for the dogs to do that? Like, I'm so confused. The whole argument is about overpopulation in the shelters. Like, the shelters are overcrowded. Um, older dogs have a harder time getting adopted. So you're just adding more puppies that are taking away potential homes for like some of the other dogs.

But doesn't he home them? Doesn't he rehome the dogs? Yeah, that's why I'm like, I understand the argument. I understand the argument about like, you know, the overcrowding in shelters and stuff like that. I, people are so mad specifically at Joey and it's so weird. Like, I feel like the blame is like a little misplaced because, like, all he did was like rescue this one dog. You know what I mean? Like, he's not in charge of like all the shelters.

Like he didn't like get her pregnant and abandon her. He just like, got her off the euthanized list. And people are acting like, it's his dog. Yeah, he saved the dog and the puppies and the dog at home because of him. So. We don't do that with humans. It's not like, it's like, oh, well, there's a child you should adopt and like, let's get rid of the baby.

Like, it's like, what? Like, I get it too, but also it's just like a puppy's a puppy. A life is a life. And the whole thing, too, then people are mad that he's putting the resources into like these puppies instead of, you know, they're like, why not foster six puppies that are already there. Oh, my gosh. Well, he's doing what he can. I know. That's why I'm like, the blame feels a little misplaced.

Like, I feel like it's more of a systemic issue. And like, yeah, there's definitely an. arguments to be made about like overpopulation in the shelters like not enough resources being put there but at the same time like okay then y'all go foster six dogs that are in the power right like why are you so mad at joey specifically it's so odd because people have been stitching his ticotks and coming so hard on him okay maybe i don't know maybe i'm like a little unaware because i to me i'm like i don't know i just learned about the um spay abortion like literally yesterday okay maybe it is okay i don't know i and a lot of people have experienced like

volunteering at working in the shelter so they know it the system better and like are more I guess realistic like to me I'm like it's like a little bit more oh it's an amazing thing that he's saving all his lives and babies and stuff so I guess like a little bit more realistic about it and I think it does make sense like to stop like the overpopulation of these dogs but yeah I just the blame was so misplaced in my opinion I'm like yeah okay he's not in charge of you know the shelters he didn't take like should didn't have been on the shelter to do it if that was like an actual option. All he did was just like he found out a dog was going to get put down who was going to give birth and just.

Oh, so it was. So they're going to spade and neuter and put down? For her, for this dog in particular, she was just going to get full blown, like she was on the euthanasia list. So she was going to get put down as well as the puppies. Oh, okay. So, okay. I got there like, oh, he took her away from the spade and neutered thing. No.

Like that wasn't even like. So he saved a life. Yeah, and then all her puppies. Oh, that's crazy. I know. It's getting on hunger games. Like, save this one and not this one. It's like, well, just because she's pregnant, doesn't mean she's like damaged goods and doesn't deserve to live.

Like, that's kind of a wild, right? It is kind of, it was wild. She saved a dog and the puppies. It's just like one of those things that you would think like everyone universally would be like, oh, he rescued a dog. Like, cool. But then there's like a way to twist it and make him like a horrible person. And then I was reading the comments because I was really trying to wrap my head around it. And then there is this theory that like, oh, well, he only cares about the pregnant ones because he, like, profits off of them because he makes the videos.

Then he can sell the puppies. But I'm like, okay, first, he doesn't sell the puppies. Like, the rescue he works with, like, does charge a fee. But the fee includes, like, you get a certificate. Like, when I adopted my dog from this rescue, like, they gave you a certificate that covers the dog getting spayed or neutered. Like, she was too young when I adopted her, but they gave me a little certificate. And I said, here, when she's ready, make sure. sure that you get it done and then we're going to call you to make sure that you do it because

they don't want you know this puppy that end up having puppies wait why and why don't they want that again just like an overpopulation oh i see i see okay got it um and they cover like the vet expenses and everything and the medication and stuff so yes there's an adoption fee it's not two thousand dollars and it covers like a lot of the health expenses and the videos are yeah but like it's like a he it helps him because it gives them something to do but it also helps other people gives them something like wholesome to watch so yeah it's better than like clavicular exactly like it is crazy when you compare the two it's like yeah it's like wholesome content he like he genuinely loves raising these puppies and like he just puts so much into it like he

literally wakes up and like that's his whole day is like taking care of it and there's so many especially these are german shepherds they're gonna be freaking humongous puppies like running around in the yard and stuff there was one weekend he was like out of town for something when i was working for him. And me and Darian are, like, in charge of the puppies for, like, a day and a half. And it was, like, the hardest thing I ever did. I couldn't imagine. Like, taking care of them.

There's so many. It's like, how do you even get them all fed and go to the bathroom? The poo? Like, oh, my God. And he, like, really can do it. You should go work for him again for a day so you can do those TikToks. Like, you know, like, I'm Whitney Levitt's assistant, you know? Because you lived it.

Does ask him we can make a content? I sure you and do you and Daryan. You guys go over and relive one of your days. It was hard. It's, like, very. overwhelming because there's just so many at once and like it's like it's like one of the letters I think it was litter he had 12 12 puppies what was your job title that's an excellent question mama and I I think you were a producer like producing content on the check

building it in I think it does say producer but I wore a lot of hats because you would come over here and you'd be like in the backseat like okay go to fast food ask this question as this but then it's like then in like the morning you're just like taking care of the dog it's like It's crazy. Can you feed the 12 puppies in the back? Yeah. This part is where influencers get it a little wrong. It's like I do think there needs to be more than one higher for all these positions

because that sounds like five jobs. The dogs alone sound like you need two people like full time for it. Like that's so wild. It was hard. Yeah. I can't picture you doing it. But I want to see a day in the life of you in 2021, what you were working at Joey. I think I was still here.

I think when I just started here, it was like a July and he left. Look at what? I remember it was like. my birthday and I was house sitting for him and also having to deal with the dogs and there were so many and I remember like having to have Darian. Darian grew up on a farm so he can handle like animal wasting stuff more to me I get sick immediately um so he had like hose it down and it was just like a mess yeah but that did he expect you to go do it if you didn't have Darian probably I mean that's a crazy ass because that's so much it's not me from Defendjoy for cancellation

now he gets canceled again yeah we can go I mean just That's just, right. He's doing a good thing. He has people helping him. It was a little crazy. Yeah, it was a little crazy. Yeah, I feel like this may be, maybe I just don't know. I'm obviously not in that dog world, so I'm not really sure what side to be on.

It seems like he was doing a good thing. He did save a dog at the end of the day. Yeah. From being put down. Yeah. He's not just doing it for like a check or anything. Like he does genuinely care. Like, of course, he can make content and like monetize the content or whatever.

Yeah. But he does like use a lot of his own money to take care of them and buy him. him stuff. Like the rescue helps with like food and formula and when they're babies. But like he'll buy them treats and toys and like the, not the cages, but like the fence in the backyard. He does all that. He pays for that himself.

It's also time. I always think that people make that argument with people who take like foster kids or something like, oh, they get money from the government. It's like, but also your time to like take care of them and feed them and like all stuff like that. It's like obviously they help you with like the financial aspect of it. But you have to put so much of your own life into it and put your life on hold. Well, maybe don't cancel Joey for this.

maybe escape tonight season five or whatever that just came out or having Oscar do Oscar doing 10 jobs I guess you weren't in the union for that one that one would have been a little little suss but that was crazy

wow the lore of Oscar I do forget about a little tasks he blacked out disassociated from that time what a crazy time what a journey I mean the 2020 3 lore is also It's very 2019

213 lore the journey to this podcast too For us has also been a doozy that year There was a lot That's where my book ends It was like There was one final test The universe wanted to give me And there was lots of tests

And it's like okay let me see if I actually can put On the three year Wait three year anniversary Is it been three years? Yeah of us And well the inciting incident The toxic gossiping Yes that's that's kind of

That's true. That's true, right? It was after, well, I know the podcast is May. Maybe the incident might have been in June. Oh, crazy time. Which, yeah, then July was us three years. I mean, there was a lot of, there was also just a lot. There was a lot that year.

Oh, you're right. June 28th. It was toxic gossip train. Oof. Almost there. What are we doing for the anniversary? My God, that was the worst summer. Oh, should we be little conductors on that?

Stop. We just celebrate our anniversary of being together three years. back to Barbie and Arbenheimer. That was, that was rough. That year was truly rough. Obviously, I had Moses and Malibu, so it was like, we made it through. But, oh, my God, there was a series of unfortunate events that year, which you can buy the book and learn all about it.

I feel like the book is a good thing that thinks I never want to talk about again. Just like, just go to the book because it's like traumatizing. But anyways, we're here in 2026. We're not jumping off this secret lives of Trisha Wives over here. Thank you guys for being here. Thank you so much. Arby's for having us in the commercial. Was that yours?

Tell me. Yeah, I've seen all this food. Oh, did you not have a little bit? Yeah, a little bit. Okay. Thank you so much to everyone who watched. Shout out May. Mental Health Awareness Month.

Get the help. We also desperately need. Your life will change for the better. We love you guys. And we'll come back Wednesday, Thursday, with our recap of the Mac Gala. So sorry. We had to be early. but we're there with you in spirit

and if anything big happens we'll let you know who you most gag to see tonight There was like a big girl that was supposed to be on the Big girl Yeah there was one plus size person on the list I was like wow I don't know And I was like oh they have a plus size

It's like a plus size person right now Oh yes I think it was a model right Oh no I thought it was someone maybe Maybe not I thought it was someone famous Maybe a model I know there is like one of the like actual invitees from Vogue that has already been confirmed as precise. I think there was a celebrity that I remember that was, but maybe not.

I don't know. And I was like, wow, they were inviting a bigger person, which is exciting. We love to see it. I saw a clip of like Lizzo and Bazelerman playing the flute from one of the Met Gallas like a few years ago inside. I remember that. Okay. Iconic. Anything can happen.

Anything can happen. And if you can't make it, make it to the Meat Gala, Arby's. We have the meets. Who am I excited to see? Maybe Sabrina. I'm excited to see what she wears. We're trying to get Libby-Rodrygo on the podcast. We shouldn't mention her.

No, they're friends again. Oh, okay. Okay, we love her. I'm excited to see Emma Chamberlain. Oh, okay. Shout out to the West Elm collection. Moses, put your cup in. He sent me a picture of him drinking tea.

I sent him the bird cup. You remember that's from the Emma Chamberlain? Okay, fun little fact, I did order the Emma Chamberlain bed, and I was waiting for Moses to get it. But we haven't gotten it yet. It's supposed to be here Wednesday morning between 7.30. does take a minute. Yeah. The vanities back ordered

until September. Oh my God. I was like, what, maybe she had this everyone wants it and then it was like back ordered. I'm like,

okay, I'm not going to want it in September. I'm going to get the Emma Chamberlain bar console thing. Ooh, that one's nice too.

I like the button side table too. It was really cute. She really did eat with that collection, I fear. It was great. You influenced me. I did get a lot of West Elm.

He's like, what's all this West Elm stuff coming? I was like, when it hits, it hits. It is. It's really cute.

And he loved his little bird mug. He was sipping out of it the other day. And he's like, I love this. Thank you. I was like, okay, great. All right, guys, that's it. Moses, who excited to see tonight? Tonight.

You? What, Miguel? Watching the Medga. Oh, together. I don't know. I don't know who's going to be there, you know. Let me think if there's anyone. Kim Kardashian.

McKayla Noguera. Maybe Kate Bush. Is she invited? I don't think so. Okay. Okay. We love you guys. I'm aside for Beyonce.

I love her. That's it. Thank you guys for watching. We'll see you guys soon. This is a fun one. We did good today. Positive. We put out positive vibes, right?

Yeah. Bye.