Just Trish - Just Trish Episode for May 28, 2026

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

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No. I know. No, no, no, no, no. The girl, they'll find your receipts, baby. How hard is it to be silent? Big Brother just said, be, remain silent. Like, it's not hard. It's my favorite.

I was, I was so annoyed because those little boys were menaces. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. Oh my gosh, it feels so good to be back. We haven't seen each other in eight days. Eight days. That's a long time for us. We were like, before we like, May was crazy, so we were like just kind of like stacking episodes because like Disneyland we would be like back to back and then this we were like back to back. Like we were just seeing each other so much.

Then all of a sudden and I was like, I haven't seen Oscar and here you are and it's so weird and surreal to see you. Everybody wanted you. This is my first show back from the UK and literally halfway through the show someone was just like, Oscar! But everyone's just like, wow! And I was like, Oscar? And then they're like, wow! Everyone was like so. No way.

dig. People love you. I mean, you know this, but people really do love them some Oscar and it made me miss you. And everyone's like, I have gifts actually. They're in my, I have to get them. They're like, people brought like little hearts for you. And yeah, people were bringing so much stuff for you. And I was like, Oscar is the best. And I missed you too. And it feels so long. And before we get into it, I got to see Oscar's house. Patreon.com slash just Trish. When I tell you, I think I was telling Moses. I was telling Moses. As soon as I got on the car, I told Moses. When I got home, I told him, I'm like, I think you, I was so gagged. But it's obviously this beautiful, gorgeous. Like, it's an insane house.

Like, it's the most insane house I've ever seen. But the energy was so good. It was so, oh, my God. Like, everything felt, it felt like a movie. I felt like I was on with Siri Lane, literally. Like, it was just, like, this, like, pocket that I've never seen before. That's just, like, gorgeous. And everything about it is, like, I really need you to go see it, Moses.

I need everyone to go see it. And I was telling... Here's the address. I was telling it. Because my sister and my mom wanted to come because I was... I think my sister was there that morning show. I want to see it. I'm like, well, I don't know if it's like one of those things.

But it's such good at... We'll protect your energy. It's so... It's like... It's like I've been to so many influencer houses. And I've never seen one so perfect, so clean, so beautiful energy. Wow. The way it's like laid out, these like multiple steps.

And then even the one that's supposed to be like the primary bedroom that you guys are using as like a living... almost like a living room, is insane. It looks like Peter Pan's room where he's like flying out the window. And you're like, oh, yeah, it's like story. And now that we post stories, I know the, and I'm just like, it makes me like, it's just so insane. Like, I want to live there. It's my inspiration.

Yeah, I will. Oh, that'd be a good challenge. 24 hours in Oscar's house living there. Because you have a house swapping. Oh, yeah, a little house swap. That'd be crazy. I would love that actually. We should do that.

Because you are, they have a little booth. I mean, they kind of have everything. The little hit it. Anyways, I don't want to give too much away, but if you guys really go see, I go on Patreon. But it is just actually like good energy besides it being like the most beautiful house I've ever seen. Like it is just like good energy in there. It's amazing. I also just love seeing how people live. It felt very like, like, remember like room raiders back in the day?

I felt like that, but I was just like, wow, this is, it's amazing. I'm very happy for you. I can't wait for the housewarming. There is, my, my gift was supposed to be delivered today, but I think it's coming on Saturday. Anyways, I'll text Daryne about it. Okay. Yeah. You look so good, too.

Like what did you do differently? Nothing. Wow, you look refreshed. I guess it's just like we've been having like a week off. Did you get any time off? No, I had to work on Memorial Day. Yes, Memorial Day. I get holidays confused sometimes.

Why? Yeah, it was the American Music Awards. I know you were seated for those, honey. They didn't even know what that is. Huh? Katzai, yes. Katzai and BTS. Oh, I did see them perform in that big, giant, pink, fuzzy teddy teddy bear?

Yeah. I did see that. It was fierce. It was a lot of cat's eye, though. I literally was editing Katzai from 1 p.m. to 9 p.m. strictly cats. It was the only videos I did. That's all I've seen.

And the Ezra Sosa on the carpet. Was that the AMAs? That one. Yes. Did you edit that one? No. It was entertainment tonight, though. It was ET.

And then poor Ezra. You guys, the spirit of Jojo Siwa, his bestie possessed him because all of a sudden, Ezra was silly goofy on the carpet. And we love, we love Ezra Sosa. your future ballroom partner. But that's so me too. I would do that. I'm too nervous to do it,

but I would love to do that on the carpet. That's like the gag. Because you go and it's so awkward, like all these like photographers and videographers, and they're all like old white men that like don't care who anybody is really on these carpets. Like they're just like, who's this person? So I love the fact that he's like,

I'm going to get all these movements, him like jumping him like, like, I love it. I think the problem is they were like hyping him up because the photographers like yell directions at you, like when you're, posing, like, do a little jump, do a little dance. I think he was just possessed. Oh.

And he just, and like, they also, I think they just get a little high out of it by just, like, telling him to do silly poses. I wish they would tell me to do silly pose. They don't say nothing. That's quiet when I'm there. I'm just like, so sorry. Maybe it's like the chaparone effect. They're scared you're going to, like, yell at them?

Yeah, storm off. Well, anybody in the future, please. If someone was directing me, like, jump, do this. Oh, my, I would be going, I'd be Quinn. I'd be on my head. I'd be doing headstands. Like, I, I wish I had the comments. confidence to do that. I'm so insecure at those things. I loved it. I was gagging for

Ezra's moment. It was your highlight of the show. It was everything. Well, you look refreshed anyways even if you're not. Also, good to see you again, Moses. It's been a while. I've been sitting here waiting. Five days. You were waiting five days. I didn't see you for five days. I didn't have Moses cooking for five days. And now I feel, I feel like I'm, now it's like overcompensating where I just feel like yesterday he's just making all my favorite. It's like breakfast sandwiches and then we had the good lunch and then we had the, steak. Well, you landed into bolognais.

I landed into bolognese. I was hungry. And then powered through lunch into a stonoh steak and eggs. Oh my best. Go check out Moses cooking videos. I was so, so good. It feels like when you go to like a restaurant, you know those influencers like, oh, can I get like free food in exchange for like a collab post?

That's what I feel like when Moses makes me my favorite meals. I'm like, let me link. Let me link to your because it's, he puts so much time and effort. And then he's just like, then he has to go make a whole separate dinner for like Malibu and Elvis. For each kid, yeah. Yeah, it's like, oh, you want pasta? Oh, okay.

But then Elvis eats shrimp and Malibu. She had some steak with me, so she'll eat some steak. It's just like. Yeah, because I'm not eating steak. I was like, wait, she didn't have any just meat. So I was like, do you want some noodles? And then Elvis. Actually, yesterday, Aquaman had orzo in pesto sauce and he loved it.

He devoured it. He's a, he's a lot. He'll eat the tomahawk steak. He eats it with the bone. He'll eat the pestle. He'll eat the bolognates. He'll eat everything. But it is nice to finally, because we always.

cook and you show it, people always ask me like, how do you do it or questions or things? I'm like, here's the recipe. Go. Yes. And then people make it and it's fun. I've heard I tell you, Ronnie was going to tell you. He said he loves your cooking videos too. He says, your voice is very relaxing. He watches it. He made the bolognais. He made the one where you put like a cream in the sauce. I don't know what he's something. They love it. They love it. They love it. They love it. It's a hit. It's good to see you. It's been a while. I missed you. They missed you. They also were cheering for you. Of course. They were cheering your name. And they were like, who you know they were excited to see moses rosy was singing i love you moses outside the rosy o'd

outside the stage door she was just singing i loving moses which was great she was amazing the whole it was the best the uk was the best i want to i think we had to move to the podcast there you might have to you can do entertainment tonight while you're sleeping while you're there's like over here awake you could be doing it at midnight yeah yeah that would actually have anything then you'd be up and awake it was so much fun minus the food but hey skinny you know what i mean like i couldn't eat anything but other than that everything was perfection it was so good it was so fun thank you guys for coming to the sold out we sold it out the royal bar

I guess it was like there was boxes that some boxes were open because like they just can't they won't sell them if it's like people that own them but the people that the boxes they could sell it they sold it was completely sold out it was very exciting everyone is singing I love you Jesus it was it was a good time that's the first thing we saw because we were like just squirrelling sadly that the first video that came up everyone singing happy birthday Elvis so I showed her that Yeah, Elvis's birthday was Sunday of the show. And again, originally we planned to all go over there together.

So I was like, okay, I'll be with her on her birthday. That was hard. That was hard. But it was nice that everyone sang it and Elvis got to see it, which was very exciting. Yeah, it was a lot. How was the quartet? String quartet was amazing. They were doing freaky Bridgeton style.

Shout out Ed Harkor. Shout out Gita and Amy and Amy and Jess. They were so good. Amy tours with Lily Allen. She was at the Orphium. Oh my God. Lily Allen has a quartet that opens for her. And one of my quartet players plays with Lily Allen.

It was a small world. And then Lily Allen's personal assistant came. Shout out Wells. Like it was just like very, it was a very small world. It was very cool. Got to me Rosie O'Donnell, which was like, oh my gosh. I was like, I cried when I met her. I cried.

I think someone has it. I like literally cried because she was just everything to me. She was like. Go back to when you were afraid to reference or you were afraid to say you were cosplay Rosie because. you're like, I don't know how she's going to feel about me. So I'm not even going to say, this is Rosie O'Donnell. I died.

Well, that's what I was scared of. And I said it. I was like, we actually did a cosplay of you, but everyone thought it was a brand of broccoli and stuff. Well, I was scared. And that's why I never, you know, the open, not opening DMs. I was very scared open DMs from her because I was just like, oh my gosh. Like it's like almost to someone I looked up to too much. And I was just like, oh my.

But then she was like so nice and so sweet. Like I met her before. I met her after. She stayed through the whole thing. Like she came up to me after. I was like, oh, at the beginning, I was, like, so nervous for the show. Everyone I was seeing, I was like, because, again, I was singing live, which is like so insane. And then I was just like really, really nervous.

So everyone was seeing is like, I'm so nervous. And at the end, she came up to me. She goes, I was nervous for you because you said you were so nervous. She goes, but like, you did that. She was like so excited. I made me so proud. And it was, it was really cool. In comments in TikTok, she hinted on stopping by here.

Yes, possibly in the near future. I hope it happens. But I don't want to get too excited in case it does it. You know my thing. But yes, possibly. possibly be here. It would be great. She is everything. She was everything and more in a world Back in the 90s early 2000s like it's kind of how it is now Maybe worse though now

With everyone being like so so skinny and everyone just had to be as skinny as possible And Rosie's open about doing a JLP one and stuff like that and we both were like you know It's not about being skinny and about being like healthier and stuff like that but like she was like the beacon of like body positivity Before body positivity was a thing she was like in movie she was starting to leave their own with Madonna She was like in the Flintstones and Harriet. She was like at Broadway. She was doing all the stuff while not being a size zero. And someone I looked up to a lot and I met a lot that she was there.

And that was so much fun. It was just a fun, fun experience. I felt very far from home, but it was great. The quartet was great. It went great. I knew all my lyrics except to Freaky, the first verse of Freaky I missed. I don't know how that happened. I performed this all the time.

When we were rehearsing, it was perfect. As soon as we were there, I was like, oh, freaky, easy. We got it. Like we just, every time we did it was so perfect. It started. and I forgot the words. And I don't know. I think I sang verse 2 twice.

And I don't know how that happened. But once again, that string quartet playing with me. It was like Titanic, they were playing with me no matter what. We're going down. We're going down and playing. Even story in my life, I have a little video that plays behind me. And it's like synced so perfect. And I don't know what happened.

I just added like another verse or I think I had another chorus in there. And they just kept playing. But the video had like stopped because the video was like to a certain amount of time. And they just kept playing with me. They're like, oh, you're doing another chorus. Like let's do it. they were wonderful. That's a beauty of life.

It was great. Because, I mean, the band follows the lead, the singer. I don't know how. Like, because, like, you're in the rhythm. How do they know? He's just, like, hearing me go to another chorus. So he's just like, okay, we'll repeat the core. Like, it's.

They have a structure in their mind for a song, so they just know how to keep going. But it's like, you know, from Jim Morrison at the doors. And, like, they would just go off and the band has to kind of follow around and figure it out. It was great. That was the most impressive thing. And the strings, too, like having to follow. Because then they're like, okay, now we're switching. Like, how do you even know what notes to play?

Like, I don't know. It's so crazy to me. It's like, so, it was, that was the most mind-blowing thing. It was the best night in my life. Truly the best performance, the best crowd, the best fans, like, hands out. Maybe it's because I haven't been there. Maybe it's like the first time being there. So it's like such a, it's such a gag.

But it was, it was wonderful. And I am still feeling good about it. It was so much fun. As I was flying over there, Saurang Hay went to number two. The episode we filmed... I think you're 45, right? Yes, yes. My sister was here that morning and Mo's like,

oh my God, you're 45 on the charts. I was like, what? Like, what do you mean? And then literally the next day is when I was traveling. And all of a sudden, I'm like, number two on the K-pop, right behind Huntrix for Golden, like above BTS, above Roseh for the opt-up opt-a song, which my kids love, which is why I did this in the first place.

Like, it was so crazy. What was it in Pop-Tarts? It was like number 10 in Pop-Tarts. And overall was like 49 or something like that, 50? Yeah, just. in a general chart, like of music. Like, you were there with Michael Jackson. So insane. Yeah, me and Michael

as like human nature and me. Granted, it's a 40-year-old song, but I'll still be there. You know what I was? I was so happy. I was like, oh, my gosh. I was getting all these calls at the time the people who produced there. I was like, okay, we've got to do another one. We got to do all this stuff like that. I was getting so many calls. And I was like on a plane, so I couldn't like take all the calls. But like, literally, Sol was calling and I couldn't take it.

And I was like, oh, my gosh. I was trying to. It was perfect because I got to play it live. but I think maybe Seoul will be in the very near future. So shout out to my South Korean fans. I'm coming. Did you see Eric Nam? Do you know from Traders? Yes.

Did you see him use my sound not once but twice? No. He did the Anyanghaseo, like Unitrish. Like he's like my new song. And he did the his new song, which is called Miss Me More. And he did it. And then he's like, I'm sanita, but he did my voice. That's so fierce.

Yes. And then he did the Saranghei with me singing on the set. He's like, Saranghei, Sarang. he was like, lip-sicking it to me. It was so, and he's like, feature. And then I like, literally was like, oh my gosh, when? Tell me how I can feature. Can you feature on mine?

Because there is another one coming. There is a follow-up. There was three in the works. Like I said, I was going to do it in a whole EP of four. So there's been three that's already kind of there. I do need to go back and re-record because I do want my pronunciation to be perfect. Because people have been so kind. Shout out to my native Korean speakers and people who speak Korean.

Like, I appreciate you guys so much. They were really, really sweet because I understand it's not perfect. But I was, I was happy with the, hey, I can understand. I can understand it. And that made me feel so good. So this next song is going to be so perfect. And it's going to be, it's going to be great pronunciation.

I'm already looking into like, you know in the bye-bye-bye music video where the box is like spinning them and they're sliding around. Or even High School Musical 3 where he's doing that. I was already asking Andrew. I'm like, how do I get? It's on a giant wheel.

You have to get a generator that like wheels around. I think you also have to be kind of athletic. So I think we have to hire like a stunt person to like help me with it. Like I think, so I got to do Pilates. Yes. I'm going to try and do it. I'm going to try and do it. I really want to do it big.

I don't know. Maybe Eric will feature. I don't know what's going to happen. But I know the next one's going to be even bigger, better. But I, Sadong Hay still going strong. And I, and maybe I'll go over soon to perform right there.

Because I really love performing. Yeah. I performed with a string contest, so I made it a little slower. But I think if I go over to Korea, I will do it with, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. And you got to have, like, the fan cams and everything. I mean, you are the sole member of your own. You're on artist. I guess the fan camps will just be you, but that's okay. Yeah.

That's fine. It can all be me. The light sticks are in production. The, what's the, the cards? The cards. The cards. Photo cards. Yeah, yeah.

Coming, like, we are getting it all for you guys. It's going to be so amazing. I love it. I did not know. I had no idea. Sometimes the best ideas are when you don't even think. Sometimes I think I have an idea and I'm like, this is going to hit so big. This one I truly was like, I don't know.

I loved it. I was excited for it. But I, I don't know and I appreciate it and I think it's um I think it's I think it's good I think it's gonna continue to be good and it's an earworm for sure it's like always in my head really oh yeah I hear it once and that's it we're am I close to cat's eye for you oh I think you're coming up okay yeah who's your bias in the Trish world in the K-pop world oh and K-pop in general yeah but it's different because you're like real K-pop they're like Western

K-pop That's very true. That's crazy, but okay. Well, they sing all English. Oh, right, right. Okay, okay. So as far as an all Korean... All Korean speaking.

Yeah. I would say you, then... Islet's really coming up, though, for me. But I was... They'll say you're number one, eyelids number two, and be like Espa number three right now. Wow, I'm number one.

I'm really like a band. They're kind of from, like, the early 90s. They were a girl group, and I don't know how you say it. I don't know. I'm probably saying it wrong. It's like, f-in-k-l. Like, Finkel. Oh.

But I don't know if that's how you like say it, but they're like this really cute, like, K-pop. And then I ran, like, a TikToker referred to me, like, was like, oh, it kind of sounds like this. It's like an early 2000s like K-pop group and that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, K-pop. And that's like, that's my new inspiration is them. I don't know if they're still around, but I love them so much. So I've been going into like Y2KKK, because I feel like that may be where I'm better suited. I don't know if I can compete with like a cat's eye, you know what I mean, but or a black pink. But you need to really start promoting the choreos, your choreographer, Cedric as opposed to the tutorials.

You need to be doing the dance like every other TikTok. Oh, really? Like the other girls who are like, when they have a song come out and try to make a little dance trend. Oh. Everything is using their own sound doing their dance. That's crazy because were you, did you tell me last week? You're like, oh, you have to make it a dance trend. Yes.

And I was like, oh, I don't know if I should do that one. But you're right, everyone's been doing it. Yes. I've been seeing so many like K-pop groups doing it. It's been like kind of insane. Katz, I'm waiting for yours. They use every viral sound. But my theory is like, they may think it's competition.

Like we can't be, you know, what's that? Hyme, high, phone away. Like, oh, no. You could be in the same record label. Yeah. I'm available. Okay, like, not that I'm going, because I do think independent artists is the way for me to go. But, like, was I talked to capital and I think universal records reached out to me and they're like, we want to help with your next release.

But, you know, we've heard about the music industry. And I'm like, I think I'm just better suited as independent artists because they have ways to, like, blow it up and stuff like that. But I'm like, I think it kind of is just blowing it up on its own. And I don't think I need this. Because you know what happens? They help you blow it up. And then they take, you know, I'm not making any money off my music ever. But you know what I mean?

They kind of just own you then. And they're like, you can't do anything else. So I like to have control over my what's happening. And you guys blew it up. And that's all that matters. But it was cool to get, like, emails from Capitol Records and like universal music. And I'm like, wow, all my dreams are coming true. At 38, 38 K-pop star, everyone was like, wow, this is crazy.

Usually it's like 15. You know what I mean? And so a 38 mom of three K-pop star. Debuting, yeah. Debuting, right. Muck-bonging at that. I know. I ate a cake, and I do not know any reference, but everyone's just like, oh, like, she didn't

put the cake down. And I'm like, I don't know what this refers to, but it had like six million views or something. It was like me eating the cheesecake factory cake. And it was before I even came out with Sarong-Hay, I had this footage because I was just like, you know, you know when I did it. And we went to boiling crab. And then I was like, I really wanted, what did I want after boiling crab? The ice cream is squirrel.

Oh, I wanted the Costco swirl, but we had to get back. because obviously we had to let our sitter go. And I was like, okay, we have to get back. So I was like, let me just like deliver, get a cake delivered from Cheesecake Factory, those chocolate cakes. And I was just eating. I thought it was cute. And then the song like went like viral.

Like two days later, I was like, oh, let me just do it to the song. So I don't know what it meant, but everyone was very excited that I didn't put down the cake. But maybe they just meant like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I love a muckbong because mukbong originated in Korea. I think somebody more confused why I was just eating in the middle of the music video. Were they?

I saw a lot of comments were like, defending that she just. broke in the middle to do a muckang like they were so yeah because I mean I think you have to understand a lot of new fans are coming that don't know your history they know you from this song oh I so they don't know that this is something you do that this is you do more of that than k-pop right right that was my tie to but it was fun I think for them it was refreshing interesting you know kind of like I do like to eat I do like to eat and um so it was interesting I think you really definitely tickled their minds. You know, we've all experienced.

Oh, well, I'm glad I'm happy. You guys tickle my heart because I love, I like, I'm, like, you flick my bean everybody. Gagged. I was just so gagged. I just felt so like, I don't know. I just like, you know, I love, I just love all. I love so many cultures.

I love a variety of cultures, level of something. Like, specifically like Korean culture, I just think is has such an impact on us in the U.S. here. Like, obviously the beauty yesterday I went and got, I'm like, I'm going full. Korean. Yeah, I'm seeing. I'm going full Korean. I was like, I know, I even, like,

hesitated to post because I went yesterday to like, but honestly, I went to this like K-spah here called K-Glo, down the street and Aguara Hills. And the owner, her name's Jean, she was like, she's like, oh, I love your song, Sarangh. Like, how did you like learn Korean? Like, because she's Korean. And I was just like, oh, my God,

I can't believe you know my song. Like it was so, because it's just like a little spot here in like the valley. And she like knew, she didn't me sign the back of her thing. She like owned the whole salon. It was very cool. But I had a Korean. headspot. Have you ever had one of those? Tan told me about it actually, weirdly, when I was recording Saurang. Hey, we talked about

not Love Line because she's like, oh, I'm at a Korean head spot. And I was like, oh, weird, I'm like recording a Korean song right now. Like, it was so weird. And then, um, so it's, it's like, I'll show before and after. Jimmy, remind me, I always forget, he asked for the dog sniffing one too late because the dog sniffing your hair. Well, we can run it in this one. But it was like, um, it was like, I fell asleep at like 5 p.m. when I came back. And then Jimmy's like, oh, at 7 p.m. He's like, can you give me the dog sniffing. It was really You. Anyways, if you want to see Mucky is sniffing Moses' hair, it's right here. It's from the last episode.

Oh, yeah, you probably had it. Yeah, I was sleeping. It was the day I slept from 5 p.m. to like 3 a.m. But remind me of before and after us. It's basically like there's so many like dead skin cells on your hair, like dry skin, dead skin. The buildup. Do you do a double wash when you wash your hair? Oh, okay.

Where did you figure that technique? I've never done this. I just do it because I think it doesn't get in there enough. I didn't know it was a whole thing. It's a whole thing. Well, yeah, you should do with like a clarifying. all that stuff like that. But the headspots,

and they have this like halo, this like water halo that washes your hair. I'll show you. But you like lay down. It's like this water and you, it's just like the best. And they like really get in there. And like anyways,

I have like no dead skin. My hair was like softer. It promotes like hair growth. It has like all this great stuff. I did that. And then I also did like a glow yesterday. It's amazing. And also with your skin too,

Korean skincare says to double cleanse. To go in there with an oil and then to go in there with like a foaming cleanser. And I've been, that was also my hyper fixation over in England. I went to all. There was so many Korean There was like soul beauty stores.

There was so many, I was going to all of it. I know. They look so beautiful. All the people on TikTok were glowing and I was like, well, this is beautiful. And then it let me down this. So I was, I got to say, when you called, she FaceTime and I was like, what happened to her face? Like she was glowing. Yeah.

I was like, you know, maybe it's the England sun or lack of sun. The England son was making. Like what's happening? I didn't know. And then after that, I saw your TikTok's about using those products. using those products but i mean your face you were glowing it was the the bubbles you were making though what the face was were crazy i love that was i didn't it was humonged that's our kids favorite they want to do that now

and i'm like you can't do that it's not you can have the regular bubbles it was crazy i don't know what the science behind that is like how did that how to come they were so huge and why didn't they stop because the soap is just a strong film but you're just breathing through it it's like what do you mean i i watched my face with soap but it doesn't do that But this one, it's almost like slime, right? It's like, the soap is so strong. It was so strong. I couldn't even, like, get off my face and I couldn't even breathe.

The bubbles were just going. It was so much fun. I know. The time you have when you're like, I had like four days and I was, it's so weird to be like, so quiet. I was telling Moses, like, it's such a, the culture shock isn't country to country. The culture shock is like having three kids under three to like being in silence. And then you're like, what do I do with my time?

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Honestly, Michaela's always over there with her POV Do you hear that sound on TikTok where it's like, guys, I'm going to Korea This is my first time in Korea. Yeah, of course I've heard that Oh, you had?

Of Korea, of course. All the compilations I'm saying that. Get ready with me to go to Korea. I'm going to Korea. Get ready with me to have dinner in Korea. That's going to be me.

That's going to be me real soon. I'm coming over. Korea. I'm very excited. I got to start Duolingo. Dualingo. I love you, but you really need to start. Because sometimes you have to read the symbols, the Korean symbols, and I don't know how to read that. So I wish they would do more

how it's spelled out, but I'm getting there. It's hard, huh? Phonetic or do you mean? Yeah, like a phonetic version. They don't have? Well, not even phonetic, even if it was just in like the alphabet. Yes, yes. Anyways, that's my only critique because I want to learn on there, but I can't. But you know what? Shout out to the TikTokers. There's always

TikTokers, it's like, here's phrases you should know when going to Korea. So I've been trying to like learn those phrases too. There's so many of you guys out there. So I really love the algorithm that I'm on right now. Thank you, everybody, for me to get a hit. My algorithm is your song, Benny Hanna.

Oh, yeah. And obviously all the appearances now on Hacks because you were in Hacks again too. Shout out Ms. Mojo for doing the top five Trish cameos on TV. That was crazy. And like three of the five were like in the past year. It was it was Hacks, Euphoria. S&L,

modern family, and Nathan for you. Those were the top five. So thank you. You need to link up with this social media influencer. Her name is Rachel. She actually commented on Sondang when it came out, but

she went to Korea to, I think this is her lore. I could be getting it wrong, but she went to Korea to teach English and then she ended up like, is she married? Oh yeah, she is married. married a K-pop idol. It was like a whole thing. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. How? I don't know the full low. I just know the headline. And I know because... That's like my life story. I came here to learn English. Married the Kepa Idol.

Small world. It's very that. Yeah. Rachel Kwan. Wait, that sounds familiar. She did use my sound. Yeah. She's like a TikTok or Instagram.

Oh, I think I saw her. Yes, yes, yes. Do you know her? Just oomfis. Yeah. Shout out to all. all the beautiful TikTokers who were lipsinking and dancing to myself. It was, it was beautiful.

Yes, I did see. She lived over there now? Yes, I think, and she lives with her husband. And he's like an idol. He did, he covered Serang He. Like, he was one of the guys that covered Sadangha. Oh, yes. Of course.

No, they were one of the first. When I was at the airport, I saw. And I remember. She sent me that one. Yeah. She has over a million followers or two million. Yeah. I know.

I remember seeing it and being like, wait, this sounds. It sounds so good when, like, K-pop idols are obviously singing it. You're like, wait, the song is, because some of people are doing auction. Capella, so many people, and it sounded so good. I was like crying when people were doing it. Or even like dancers who are like real, like amazing. There's a K-pop cover dance troupe. They do like, and they're here in L.A. I think they're at USC or something like that.

They did it. And I went to their page and they have like a million followers as well. And they're always dancing to like K-pop songs. I want to hire them in my next music video. But they're here in L.A. It's like so cool. So yeah, shout out Rachel. Thank you so much. I loved it too. I love that they learned the words, right? It's like there was another guy who only had one TikTok and it was him singing Saarang Hay and it was so beautiful. And the fact that they like learned the words, I don't know, like it's a new song and, you know, it could be. I mean, in general, when I see the lyrics, they're pretty. I mean, it's really beautiful lyrics. It's a beautiful. I know. Well, that was the other thing too. When I was getting all the songs, I wanted to like see the lyrics and the translations,

what it means and everything like that. It is really beautiful and fun. And yeah, I'm just, I'm just, I love people like it. Post where people are in stores, airports and places and the song is playing a pop mart. It was playing in a pop mart, which was really cool. I was when I went into the Soul Beauty in London. They were literally like, oh my gosh, I love song. It was so crazy. The song had just come out two days before. Insane.

People on the street were saying it. It's never happened to me before in my life. And I was, um... I heard you were trending on boyfriend TV. What? What does that mean? What is that? Oh, it's Boyfriend TV.

What is it? You mean on Darius TV? Oh, I know. I was like, what? It's like, what's Poirfront TV? Tell me. I think Daryana is on TV. Let's just say it's a frisky adult homosexual website.

Oh, okay. As long as it's homosexual. I thought it was like some weird. Okay, love that. It's like the grinder, but over where? Here? International, baby. International.

Okay. If we can't have grinder here, I'll take that international grinder all day, boyfriend TV. I also love how cutesy it is. It sounds cutesy. When he said it, I was like, oh, I love that. Okay, they loved it. They love a son okay? I heard.

That's what I heard, yeah. I did have one quam, though, with one of your Instagram stories. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. I have never been so puzzled and bamboozled. When you posted a screenshot of you watching the story of my life music video by One Direction, and it was a screenshot of Louis Tomlinson, and you said, who is this?

Does anybody know? And the concept of you posting a screenshot of One Direction's story of my life and then asking who one of the members are, who we talked about like a dozen times. but then also just like not looking at the members of One Direction. I was like, oh. It didn't look like him. That's why I was like, wait. It wasn't from the music video.

Was it from a performance or something? I thought it was a music video. Was it? No, I swear. No, this looks like J.C. Chaze. And I was like, where'd this person come? No way. Did you screenshot it?

I sent it to Jimmy and I was like, what is going on? Well, I tried to DM that person. I was trying to DM the person in the thing. And everyone's like, it's Louis Tomlinson. And I was like, that doesn't look like him. Okay. verify people at home because I would think people were trying to mess with me or something like that. Because obviously I googled One Direction members, but I don't remember talking about him.

I don't remember seeing him. It's the music video. And the video you're watching is just One Direction dash story of my life. And you said, what, who is this? Question mark. What's his name? Question mark. So who is it?

Louis Tomlinson. Actually. Yeah. What do you mean? I feel like you're also trying to troll me. Because it doesn't look like him. I typed in Louis Tomlinson. I mean, that's 12 years ago.

he's on tour right now I've DMed him I wanted him to be my special guest yeah he's like oh I'm on tour right now I know I was like damn A reply is big though A reply is huge He didn't reply

Oh I did send it though I sent one to him and Harry And Nile Zah Larsson was in the UK But she had a performance The same night Otherwise I think

I did see that too She was at a festival Meg Hilty was over there Everybody was over in the UK At that time People love story in my life I thought it was kind of niche Well you also thought

thought the original artist was Joey Grissela. Okay, so this time it's happened to me. Oh yeah, it happened in my so I see, no, I see a TikTok of her singing in the song. So she showed me the video before she left, so I knew the video and I was like, oh, this must be one of

the songs she hasn't released yet. And she made for this show to go with that video. I had no idea. I never heard the one direction. Then you saw the TikTok version. That's what I saw the TikTok of you singing it. Oh, and there was one comment that was like, it's nice to hear Joey Gersethe original. So then Moe's like, oh, is that?

Because I know, when I showed you the music video, I didn't know you didn't know the song either, but I know it from Joey. That's what made me want to get me to music videos. I was like, Andrew Valentine signed me up. I loved the song. It always made me cry. Even the Joey Gersethefe, a Luke Conard version.

And I loved it. I thought it was so beautiful. And then... It was amazing in your show. Yeah, people really... Well, I sort of a really cute video that goes with it. It's very emotional. It's like literally story my life because my book is coming out.

So I was like, oh, what's a song that can tie into the book before crying on the kitchen floor. And then I thought, oh, my God, story of my life is like, so there. So I was telling people, I was like, I don't know if you guys, like, know this song. Like, I don't know, but like, it's one of my, it's like, it's like, it's like a deep cut, you know? And then all of a sudden, everyone just started singing every song, every word with me. I was like, oh my God, from the beginning, from the verse, everything that. And of course I got that first line wrong.

They're written in these walls, the story that I can't explain. I said, written in these walls. I think I switched out. I was like other colors that I can't change. So I don't know what it was. Because everyone started singing and it was overwhelming me. And all of a sudden, I was like, oh my God, everyone knows this so much. And people, it was fun.

It's, you know what? My shows give karaoke a little bit, but it's fun because everyone's singing with me. It was crazy. Everyone was on their feet for story of my life. I would love to sing it with one of the Run Direction Boys. I don't know who was out there. Louis Tomlinson, you're very handsome. I did not know.

That was you're great. And I think that you're amazing. I think he's on tour right now. I think he's here in, like, June. Maybe we should go see him. Oh, yeah. I feel like a tie to him somehow. I feel like there was like an invisible string to him somehow.

because I kept seeing him, I kept wondering who that was. And I was like, that guy's, that guy seemed nice. It was his lore. Married anyone famous, have a baby. Does he have a baby now? How do you not know? I think he does. I think you were at one deer, or just a hairy, harrier nater.

Yeah, Freddie. In 2016, yes, I remember he was the first one to become a dead. 2016, how old is he? Yeah, he is, I think he's the oldest one. He's 34. What? He looks like 12. And that's crazy.

Oh my God, he looks so good. Yeah, he was one of my faves early on. I did have a doll of him. I had a doll of Harry and Louis and Liam. I think those are, my original order was Liam, then Harry, then Louis. Because Louis, back in the day, Wendy Girls, you know, he had a, like, he had a fatty, like he had a big butt. And there's this infamous photo of him in a wetsuit, like on the beach, like a paparazzi photo,

but it looked like a like a photo shoot where he just like looked so good and his butt looked really good and I was like oh he's he's moving up the my roster so yeah so he moved out to number three got it what was his place in the in the group you know there's like a bad boy and like the cute one what was his place he was pretty it was a sweetie I think he was like the older one for the group and he was shipped with Harry Styles don't get me started on Larry Stylinson But it's the gay ship between Harry and Louis that they both hate. They both hate this ship. Wait, why?

Because I think people really believed it. It was like mass delusion, you know, or like potentially mass psychosis because everyone was starting to think it was real. But they were never a thing, never a thing. But everyone wanted it to be. But I think it was like people wanted it so bad and they couldn't escape it. but they weren't feeling each other like that. Oh.

It was just like annoying. I thought it was him and Nile, no? No. It was Louis. So Louis is the second cutest next to Harry. I mean, that's very subjective. I think Louis's number one. I'm just saying, but in the looks of the world.

It's like Justin's type or like in a JC back in the day because no one likes Justin temper like anymore. But like back in the day, it was like Justin then JC. God, that is tough. Wendy Girls, you're going to have to let us know in the comments because I know for sure Harry was number one. I mean, I don't know if this is just my personal experience, but for me, the top two were always Harry and Liam. And then everyone else was kind of like, I forgot.

Maybe Zane. Zane was also up there for sure as well in contention. I know there was a Zane in the group. Wow, there's so many. There's too many, honestly. They all changed. They were all in, or no. They all stayed the same?

They all, yeah, see, Zane quit pretty early. And then five boys, five boys, one dream, one direction, right? Yeah. So, yeah. So it became a four-sum when Zane quit. and then they did one more album without him and then dismayed. Lost the sauce a little bit. Yeah, they just wanted a break, I think, after that.

It was the thing where it's like, well, they'll get back together at some point, just a hiatus and then the hiatus. Oh, no. Yeah. One day, I think in 20 years, I get back to your boys at the sphere. Like, you know, you gotta give them like 20, 30 years. Well, Zane and Louis reunited and then that ended terribly, so I don't know. What happened?

They got into an altercation allegedly. When they were filming a little reunion show for Netflix, the two of them, they're supposed to go like road tripping. and they got into an altercation. Zane and who? And Louie. Oh, the one that I like. Yes.

The one you just found out. I love him. I love him. I'm, I'm, I love him. I'm, I think he's my favorite.

I think he's my favorite because maybe he wasn't. I like to go for the one that like people don't love like a Chris Carpatrick or Joy Fetone. Like I always try to go for one of those, but I guess he's a loved one.

So I don't know. I guess they're all loved. Yeah, it is a little tough. I didn't know about this. But my ex, not boyfriend. say a situation ship 2019 like randomly he popped up in my like people you may know

or whatever like suggested on Instagram and then he was on the voice on team Nile. What? I know. I probably saw it. We watched every Nile season. What's his name? Or can you say? Michael? I forget his last name though. But he was... He forgot your ex kind of way from situations. Well.

It was short. So... You don't remember his name? Last name? No. Jackson? A white boy who had a little vibrato in him. I don't know. Okay. Did he sing to you? He sang like all the time. He was like one of those. Like you know when you can sing and you just, you can't stop singing.

Did you like, I love that though. I love when people sing. I think if like you or me, you would have fallen in love with them because he's your type of gay guy for sure. Oh, okay. She's just always singing a little theatrical. Oh, yes. He loves Schitt's Creek. He like made me watch Schitt's Creek. And I think that's why I don't like Schitt's Creek. Because like I remember he made us watch like two episodes and I never like buy it. with it. Maybe I dated him. I definitely wasn't a gay musician. He's like literally your ideal gay guys. Wow. And then Team Nile. Like that's like your ideal gay guys. Yeah. Damn.

You've definitely watched it because it was like 2023 or 24. So you definitely watched. Yeah. Because this was your peak. Nile. I was into Nile voice, all that. I really love him too. They're all on tour now. Like they're all, I think Zane's on tour. Everyone's on tour now. I was trying to get somebody to come to the show. I think you're all on tour. They all are on tour. Zane had to cancel some of his tours. That was the ball. too. Here in North America. Yeah, because his mental health and I think physical health as well, actually.

Oh, how's he going to do the Europe tour? That's what everyone wants to know. He's been canceling a lot of dates, poor guy. Well, people thought that with the Pussycat Dolls, too. They're like, wait, I thought they were rusting. And they were like at the, what words that? AMAs, yeah. And their oopsided again outfit.

Yeah. People really don't like them, huh? They have a hate train against them right now. People are like, we don't want this. I think Nicole Scherzinger. I think the other two pussies are taking the heat for, Nicole because I've seen a lot of like girl at this time at this age now share the spotlight a little bit they performed the amAs and Nicole had two spotlights on her we're just like like damn you only got you only

sharing the stage with who now and you can't even like give them a little bit that's so weird yeah especially don't you want I feel you want a little pressure off of you you don't want to be just the star the whole time I think especially like you were infamous for like you know being wanting to be the soloist of the how many Pussies were they're like 12? So many. The OCD, the OG ones. It's like B-CD-O-Gs. It's like you would think you'd want to like, you know, make up for that little bit and just

give them a line or two, you know. Somebody. I feel like, yeah. She's like, no thank you. But they do have hits. My God, the little medley. I'm like, those songs are coming back to me. They were.

Isn't that crazy? That just comes to show, though. It's like, if you're not like likable, all that talent. Because Nicole's also very talented. I started on Sunset Boulevard. And oh my gosh. Like she's never off stage and she belts every single song and it's like the most amazing voice ever.

If you've seen her do like, fan of the opera, she's amazing. Like she is like an actually such talented singer. I think just something about her is she was very nice to me. I got to meet her. She was very nice. But there is an unlikeability or unrelatability to her that people I think disconnect with somehow. Maybe like you said just the, because there's confidence. Obviously she knows she's an amazing singer and she's beautiful.

So there's like confidence and then there's arrogance and they tow the line. And I do think men can get away. way with being arrogant more than women, so I do know the double standard here. But I think maybe her arrogance and knowing she's so beautiful and talented, people like, you know, it kind of gives them the ick a little bit. See, but it's weird because everyone like kind of kind of get behind a diva. Like when Mariah is a diva, people usually live for it. But yeah, with her for some reason, people like want a little bit more vulnerability, a little more

realness, which is interesting. She also, didn't she like, like Russell Brand's hat in a TikTok show? Oh, I love this hat. And I remember it's like, it's Russell Brand. It's got, the whole thing was a little dicey. and then she kind of walked back to a little bit. Oh, I just like the hat. I'm Christian.

Yeah, I was like a Make America Grading a hat or something. Oh, was it? Yeah, it was like political too. Oh, I thought it was like, I love God or something. It was something like kind of political. And I, obviously like her fan base is so gay. Right. You're kind of like, what is happening?

Like the gay is still shooting buttons. Like the gay clubs are carrying buttons. Like they're getting you the royalties. Yes. Yeah. Let's get it. Let's get it in check. Wow.

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I just didn't know what I was from and I was all over the place. It was very random. Yeah. Yeah. Also like way past award season. Like why are they doing awards now? And on like a holiday too. And then it was also in Vegas.

So there weren't like so many stars there. I feel like because it was like on a holiday also out of the way for people like you got to do it when everyone's in town. Everyone's also on tour right now. Right. Yeah. Everyone is on tour. Everyone is booked and busy. But yeah, Katzai won three awards.

BTS were like the big ones. So it was like the big like comeback award show post. I think I bringing K-pop back all of a sudden. All of these K-pop winners. Yeah. BTS heard Sadangang. They're like, We gotta make some appearances.

I would love to clap with BTS. They change out members, right? They do change out members. No? Are you sure? I thought that's the whole thing. It's like people are changing out members. No, not BTS.

Oh, okay. So sorry. I just, I get my boy bands mixed up, but I am getting better. I can't even think of which one you're thinking of. Menudo. How? Yeah, they were switching.

No, but like one direction, I thought we're switching. out too. I just thought boy bands switch out. I think Minuto did. I think possibly new kids on the block. God, there is a K-pop band. I feel that switched out. When they would get too old, they would

switch them out. So I feel like there is one in there. Probably. None of the recent ones. I mean, there have been some that, like, lose a member. I don't know if they've, like, replaced, though. Like, there's definitely been some members that, like, been on hiatus or this left. Um, but not like just a rotation.

They're beautiful. I want to go through like a K-pop idol like boot camp over there. Like I want to be able. Oh, a trainee program? Yeah. It's tough. Oh, I want the softened version for over 35. I need a mature version.

I would love to do what they do and look like what they look like. That'd be amazing. Yeah. I've watched like Black Pink's documentary on Netflix a while ago and theirs wasn't about the program, but they talk about it. And then obviously Dream Academy for Katzai. they are living the trainee program so you really see how crazy it is like one of the girls shout out lexie she's in the new girl group but she had to get a whole hip replacement while going through the trainee

program and then once she recovered she had to get back to dancing isn't that crazy how do she had why she needed a hip replacement from dancing too much uh-huh oh my god you know me and my back i'd be out I'd be out all the time dang okay maybe not let me get like a soft inversion yeah maybe hybe let me know Hybe? Are they over there or are they here? Hybe has an office here. Because when they were doing the training program for Katzai, the Dream Academy, it was in L.A. It was in Hollywood.

Oh, really? Oh, okay. Maybe we could go try being K-pop stars for a day. They'd be fun. You can ask Grant Katzai's choreographer who is a your oomfi. Yeah, because he works in, like he was training the girls for dancing. Wow, he might be a little busy, but true.

But I'll reach out. You know, I reach out to one direction. I'll reach out to him. You know, we can never, I love my K-pop forever. That's like I never stop this podcast. That's the other thing I was going to say is when I was over in the UK, everybody was like, I did a meet group before. And everyone was like, your podcast is like, it keeps me going. Like I was like depressed or I hated my job or work was tough or I lost somebody in my life.

And like listening to your guys' podcast, I put it on. And like it literally like just saved me from like loneliness and crying and depression because you're just, it was just funny and lightheart. I just love hearing guys talk, like you, Oscar, and Moses. It just made me feel so good. I was like, we can never stop that. I'm going to tell you that. Like, we can never stop this because so many people depend on it.

And it really is not even what we talked about is what I found out. Because I was clearly, we're not, well, you're a journalist. We're not the informants over here. But people were like, I sometimes have no idea what you're even talking about. And I just love. Yeah. They're like, I just like listening. I just like being on the journey.

And I'm like, that relieved so much pressure for me. I was like, honestly, we could do this forever then. If you guys don't really care what we talk about. Because we can talk for hours. We can talk for five hours. And it's wonderful. So I was also meant to tell you that that we can never and we'll never stop it. It was really nice.

I was like, damn, how many people, like, love the podcast? In the UK, you wouldn't think they'd be, like, listening over there. So many, like, lawyers. So many people who have, like, these, like, doctors, like, all this stuff like that. And just, like, yeah, I listened to all through law school. I was like, what? What do you mean? I'm so sorry you had to listen to that.

Oh, my gosh. But, uh, my favorite. UK Trish Lour moment right now that I see a lot on TikTok I don't know if it's just my FYP or maybe it's taking over but it's the clip of you from Celebrity Big Brother UK when it's like

Big Brother says to be silent and then you look over to the boys who are talking behind you. How hard is it to be silent? Big Brother just said remain silent like this is Big Brother housemates must remain silent to remain silent

like it's not that hard. I don't like, you keep me getting out that, just swimming silent. It's not that hard. It's my favorite. I was so annoyed because those little boys were menaces. They were menaces to me the whole time, like, tormenting me. And all Big Brother shows is me being mean to them. I think to the one little blonde one.

I was like, I have followers, and they're going to rip you apart if you're mean to me. If you accept me. And, like, that's all they show. And then Big Brother calls me in for bullying. I'm like, these two boys have been bullying me since I got here. They were, like, relentlessly mean and picking on me. my outfit, my hair, like, just like actually being mean. And they show me just like retaliating, which is what they do to women.

They love to show women when they react. When I react to something, because even that, they were just being annoying. And the big brother, people were like, okay, if you guys can't stay quiet, like we're going to sit here. We were sitting there. Did I have egg on my head? I think I had egg on my head. They're like, no one can shower, no one can leave until you guys are completely quiet.

The two yappers in the back. And I was just like, just shut the fuck up. And then, oh, then I look like a crazy one. Well, I guess now it's like, now they get it. But I don't know who those boys were. they were annoying. They're from like a love is black. Like the one was like a hairy jowsy type.

Like a love is blind type stuff. I don't know. It was, they were annoying. I don't know who they are. But that was my first introduction to British people and I did not love it from that experience. But this time around I loved it. But yeah, I do see that.

I think I redeemed myself from my celebrity big brother days because that was, luckily too, that was like 10 years ago. And so many people like don't even remember because Gen Z were in control now. Yeah. The comments on the TikToks I've seen are like, what show is this? Yeah. Which is so crazy.

Oh, I love it. Thank you. Thank God. Let's keep recycling it because that was diabolical. It was awful. And I had no food at the time. But it was a key. I do love the clips now very, very mentally unwell.

I was really, when I look in there, there's also a clip of me walking and be like, where's the gay one? There was no gay guy in there. There was not one gay in that house. And I was like, what the hell is this? Like, I'm going to have to live with all these, like, it was awful. Just straight. And you have to, like, clean and no one was cleaning. So, like, all these guys would just, like, pee on.

the floor and it was like one maybe we had two bathrooms and just pee everywhere it just stunk really bad everyone was smoking and drinking it was just it was hell it's not around anymore right celebrity big brother it took a break for a couple years and then it came back

with Jojo season that was the first one in a while but I don't know if it's back again I haven't heard anything I would assume yeah maybe people don't care anymore it's a weird show no offense to the people of Britain but I think I redeemed myself with this one Everyone loved literally so many people on the street even in the airport were like loved you in aphoria.

Like people were like, okay. Like I just thought people were messing with you. But even at the mean girl, I was like, you were so good in euphoria. I was like, that's so crazy. I literally had my one line. But I did the one line on stage and everyone went crazy. I was feeling very, what's the guy that does? What's his?

You remember? Who? There's a guy. Why gooey? Gooning? Were you gooning? Oh. There's like a clip of like, it's kind of like, do you remember those boys that were just like,

viral for like God, was it MegCon? Is that it? And they could do like anything and the people Yeah. Yeah. And there's one where the person's like

And all the girl's like, wow! Because he's like, wait, wait, watch, watch. And I was like, ah! You don't remember this? No, well, I remember MacCon in general, but I don't remember that specific one. Oh my God. And that's what I felt like because I was like okay, here's my line guys from before you. I was like okay. And I was like, wow!

It was so much fun. It was actually so great. So I get the Megcom boys now doing the minimal for maximal cheer that is so funny what an era how you would look that up i don't even know i know jimmy do you know i feel like do you know do you know what i'm doing we're they're on stage and he's like okay okay wait wait and everyone's like wow okay maybe it's just like all the memes like people just doing their memes like people that are famous for memes maybe they're just like good-looking like cameron dallas jacob sartorias like nash greer yeah i don't i don't yes Maybe.

Sean Mendez. Wow. Were they all in there? Wow. Okay. Legends, really. Icons only in that group. Some of them came out to be big things.

That's pretty. You remember O-21? Do you think they were trying to be One Direction? Or were they trying to be MayCon? Did they come before MacCon? I thought Maycon's new. No? I think O-21 was first, right?

Before One Direction? No, not One Direction. Oh, Macon. Oh, they were the first boy group of YouTube. I think Five Awesome Gays was the first board group of YouTube. Never heard. I don't think people remember that. Tyler Oakley's group.

Who else was in it? God, I'm forgetting. I know Joe, who's like, he's a Twitch streamer now. I can name all O2L. Kean, J.C., Trevi, wait, I know. Ricky. Yeah, but you. God, there was one more.

The last one, I know. I forgot about that one, too, until I just saw the line up. God, wait, wait, hold on Sam. See? I know, I'm all. If tonight we're gonna race somehow. You got me screaming like, oh, too. Well, Charlie Puth did their song for the tour.

They were kind of like. Mikaela Noguero's favorite artist. Did you see him talking to her on stage? Mikaela, you bought, God, I have so many TikTok. I was really on TikTok, I guess, while you were gone because I had nothing else to do. And I was like, Michaela kept doing, get ready with me to Steve. Charlie Pooke. Oh, wait, really?

I didn't see that one. My boyfriend is taking me on a date to see Charlie Puth. Anyone who has followed me for an extended period of time knows I love Charlie Puth. And like, my boyfriend surprised me with tickets to see Charlie Puth. She's excited. She loved Charlie Puth. She's the number one Charlie Puth stand. Did we know this?

I did not know that about her. And I have never known a Charlie Pooze stand, but if anyone was going to be a Charlie Pooze stand, I guess. McHaleigham. I was going to have ever met a Charlie Puth stand. No offense. He has perfect pitch. We know. But, like, I didn't know there was stands.

I didn't know either. And she's the number one. And she was, like, front row. It was a standing room only. No shade. But she was front row. Wait, what standing room only mean? It was just, you know, like one of the venues where it's like G.

Like, first come first child kind of cheese. But that means she got there early. She's like, I'm going first. I'm full of blame. Who films from that angle? Because someone was filming in front of her. Who's filming that? That's a great question.

I have no idea. And he didn't seem to know that she was there. I think he assumed she was like in a box or something because he was like, Michaela. And she's like, oh, you're right there. Yeah. What's the Lord? Does he know her? Because he's like, oh, I love your boyfriend.

And I'm like, how does he know the boyfriend? I have no idea. I just saw her lose her mind over getting these tickets. And I was like, okay. I love Michaela, but this is one thing I don't know. I don't understand. We can forgive a lot, Michaela. We can forgive a lot.

The get ready with me for divorce court, all that stuff. But I don't know if I can. God, we need a little Michaela. date segment. Michaela, this is all love. Love. If any of the goofoo-goopers watch this, you know I love you girls with all my heart. I want you on the podcast.

All three of you can come. I only have one share, but let's all pile in it. I love you girls. I love Michaela. But we have, there is that we've missed a lot. We missed a lot. Because she had to get ready to divorce course. She had the Charlie Puth.

She had the trend that I did with Moses yesterday. She's the one who I saw do it where it was like, I was confused when I saw her and that's my why trend. Have you seen that one? Where she's like, it's basically people were like, I've been with this person for 11 years. say all the things you'd love them. Oh, I heard about this. Yes.

And she was like, hers was like, you know, I've been with, we were high school sweethearts. Then he waited for me. He would pursue me, but I wasn't available. But we kept in touch and he was emotionally. So everyone's like, this feels a little odd because it was kind of implying that he was like checking in on her. Yes. Always kind of there. And she was communicating with him during the marriage.

All speculation. I know there's a Michaela hate train right now. So I suppose people are being nasty for an reason. When is there not? That Michaela H. I think in my heart, I think she kind of, I wouldn't say enjoys it, but kind of like encourages it. Yeah, she is feeling that. She loves to.

She's laying out the tracks. Yeah, like the get rid of me divorce court is pretty crazy. Yeah. But I also don't know if she was actually going to divorce court. So People Magazine actually reached out to the court in her town. Oh, okay. To get a statement. Yeah.

That's crazy, right? Well, you got to do your due diligence, I suppose. I mean, I don't know if we needed that exclusive people. I don't know if we need to like... A spokesperson for the Norfolk probate and family court in Massachusetts confirmed to people on May 21st that there was an ongoing divorce case involving Ngaera and Hawkin, but declined to share more as records in the case have been impounded. Neither Hawking nor a rep for Noggera immediately responded to people's request for comment.

So it actually did happen, which I actually was kind of gagged because I thought it was her kind of like trolling a little bit. But she actually was getting ready for. She was going in Chanel boots, Loubaton purse. That was crazy. That was, she's like,

I want to go in looking like, damn. I'm like, girl, I think we need going in some colds just so he's not like, well, actually give me those boots too.

You know what I mean? It's kind of like, because she did say, if you don't hear from me, it didn't go well. And then people like, so what's the update? And she goes,

why didn't say anything, did I? So I think it was like, I don't know what's real, what's not. Some people in the comments like, I hope he gets nothing. Some people are like,

It has become a little bit of a spectacle, but I suppose... She blew up while they were together. Together, right. That's the thing, too, if you're not. It's a tough one. It's a tough one. Like, I think the only part for me is, like, oh, he was, like, in her content. So, did she blow up because of Cody?

I don't think it's that. But, like, I mean, I guess if he wasn't... I don't know. It's a big part. That's why I got to be careful. I got to be careful putting people in your content because they could always come back for that. Did he help her in any way?

I don't know. Did he, like, manager? He did sell a truck for her. You know, like, if, if you just... sacrifice things. I don't know. I don't know. Did she have a pre-en-up?

Did she say? I don't know. But now everyone wants to know because why? Well, she was getting ready for divorce court and lupon. And I was like, well, damn, this is a glow up from the elf wedding. Well, actually, the wedding was fabulous. That was pretty good. But even that was a sponsorship.

So does he get half of that sponsorship money? He's like, well, I was part of that marriage. I got that elf money. Yeah. I think it could definitely be argued. I mean, I'm no legal expert. But just like logistically, if he, Cody was in Michaela's content, inspired a lot of her content, because how many like get ready with me for date nights or you know whatever.

The armhole and that was it's new. I think they're lovely. She's not in high school, but the new one too just got you just never know. You could be the nicest person you just never know. And you know, if they help you with their content, I don't know. I always think, yeah. It's a tough one.

I don't know. Thoughts over there as a husband to an influencer. I'd give money. I give almost all the money. You deserve all the money. You could have everything because I just. You do everything. Where am I going?

What do you mean? I don't know. If you wanted any money, you could have all of it. With them, I mean, it's complicated with them because, I mean, if they do came up together. It's like, look at Amazon, right? Like when they divorced, got basically, he was the richest man in America until he's divorced because half of that went to her. So if he gave that to her.

I think it's more up to Cody. What does he want, you know, and how they meet in the middle? of what they both want. Also, what the circumstance of divorce is. They said it was mutual, but it's like, did one cheat? Did one just abandon the other one? Did there's probably like circumstantial if it ends bad? You probably want the money.

Because right, someone said this. Someone's like, it's not about who you're marrying. It's who you're divorcing or something like that. So it's like, yeah, everyone starts off great, obviously. But a divorce could end messy if someone cheats if someone does this, whatever. And then like, well, F you, I'm good and everything. I know. My parents had such a crazy messy battle.

I still hear about it to this day when it comes to money. It was so messy. So, but yeah, it becomes ruthless once someone. My dad, like, sold a company, which my mom was, like, starting. It was, like, this whole thing. And it's like, damn, it gets, it gets messy, which I think is why Dave Portnoy says he's never divorced his first wife. I think they're still married because it's like, but I think she has, like, access to his

money if she wants or something like that. I don't know. It is, it is messy, but a spouse, too, has to give up a lot of things to support that career. Although shit, he's always working. I don't know. It's a tough one. The main thing.

The main thing, she's young. and she has a big future ahead of her. So even if he gets, whatever he gets, she's going to be fine. She's going to grow double what she has now. I agree. Totally. I agree.

100%. But also, too, I think she started her company when they were married. So it's like if you start a company while you're married, I know we know all this, like the logistics of it all. Like if you start a company while married, they're entitled to have. Also, it's different. California is like a very like everyone gets half. Maybe Boston's different.

I don't know how it is. But I think she tells a dog. She showed. Yeah. People were speculating that Cody took the dogs and that's kind of how it all picked dog. That's right. She's like, he can take my money, but he can't take my dogs.

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Exactly. Yeah. So that's why people were like, oh, he must be wanting something because if that wasn't the case, if they just like had an agreement, like they wouldn't have to go all the way to a trial. So. And they bought that house together. Well, at least they bought as a married couple. Yeah.

But the thing is that she has to enlist every possible thing in possession for the, so even if she has. Looking at those halls. You know, even like if a makeup company gave her stock, you know, if they got anything she has anywhere has to be now listed and then they have to go through it and make a decision about how they're splitting things or not. I mean, I'm surprised that you haven't just reached an agreement on their own outside of court. Yeah, especially like this kind of situation. It's like, oh, you just don't want to like drag it on more.

Especially when you're going to. Who was it? I was like, I think it was like Taylor Swift was talking about. I saw it on Twitter. I don't know. It could be totally fake about her like doing a pre-nup right now to protect like $200 billion or something. I'm like at that point, like I love marriage. But I feel like I just, is it even worth it?

Because it's like just in case. It's like just in case like wouldn't you rather just have it be separate? Like I feel like in that case like don't get married. If I was worth like $200 billion, grant I mean child's because I'm probably fine. But if you're going through all that work, I would think just don't even get married. I don't think having $200 billion or $100 billion

makes any difference to one's life. Why are they doing on the paperwork then? Because that's what people do. But all I'm saying is like it's not like that's like the love, the person you're going to spend every day with is bigger than the $2 billion that's in the bank. If it's two or $100, like being a loan, it's not worth it. We could be together and not be married.

That doesn't matter. The law, like, especially here in California, after 10 years, everything is common property. Like, it doesn't matter. If you last 10 years. And if... They could only last six years. I would assume that they'll have kids. They would assume that they'll have...

That's a big assumption. None of that could happen. I guess what I'm saying is, like, I think if you just have, like, so much money, maybe specifically, maybe not Travis and Taylor because they just have so much money. Maybe, like, I guess Michaela didn't have money either. I guess you just don't know. I mean, I don't get rich. I don't know.

I don't know what it is. After seeing Travis in the basketball game, I would be. cautious but aside of that what basketball game he plays football do you know what he's talking about he did always

what happened what happened is it not in your hot topic no I actually forgot about that they went to a basketball game and he was kind of being like he pretended to fall asleep or something he was kind of being a clown

the whole game like a cute clown or like a clown like a clown like a fred boy clown. Yeah. What was he doing though? Like the camera went on him.

He just stood up and chug the beer. And he was the whole thing. He was just like being a clown. I mean, it's cute. I mean, she's that too, right? She's a bit of a flamzy. Oscar's like no. Yeah, she could like put on.

She'll dance when she's in an award show and that camera's on her. You know, she'll get on her feet and she'll dance. So you think she liked it maybe. She was like laughing. I think she likes everything that man does. I'm not going to lie. It's very Selena, Bunny. Yeah.

I think nothing really gives her the ick when it comes to him. Okay. the bye-bye get. That doesn't sound bad if you just sit up and started turning a beard be like, okay. I think from the outside perspective, like people are like,

oh, he was like, a little too much. And I think if it was a woman, forget about it. They would, if that was Megan Trainor doing that, please. They would literally take her out back

and just assassinate her. They really would. They'll add her middle name hate. Oh, yes. Poor Megan Turner. I saw TikTok. I saw one being like, you guys,

I think Megan Turner gets it. I think she gets it. I think we can stop now. I think we can just, we can stop. She gets it. Like, just stop because people are just, damn, really relentless.

I'm on Megan Trainor Talk for some reason. And, like, there was a fan who was, like, earnestly going to get her new album, like, at Target, the day it came out. And I was, like, I was pretty seated for it. Because I wanted to understand, like, a Megatron. I think that's what the- Is that the stand? I think that's a stand.

I like, what is the day in the life of a Megatron, you know? So I was, like, pretty seated for it. And then she couldn't find it at Target, like, in the front of the display. And all the comments were like, girl, check the clearance section. I'm like, damn. Like, let the girl like, let her. I don't know that. But even Target is hating on her.

Oh, my gosh. Anyways, I don't have an opinion either way, but if Charlie Puth is getting loved from Michaela and Aguera, Megan Trainor deserves some respect, too. I don't know. She needs to make a fan out there to be a Michaela. Like, I love Megan Trainor. Chris Olson.

She got him. I love Chris Olson. No, I love it. I know he gets a lot of hate, do I feel bad? Let me not give any more hate. But I was like. Like, right, right. Collectively, people really loved it.

And then all of a sudden they all hated that. The whole, they said they were cousins or something. I don't know what it was. I don't know what they said. Oh, I haven't. Or just best friends since high school or. Oh, was that their lore? Something.

They like made it up. And then she was like paying him to be her friend or something. I don't know. It came out. Anyways, no way to Christmas together. I know we were going through a lot, my friend. What were we talking about? Oh, Michaela.

Yeah. I'm seated for every. Taylor, TikTok, there is. I love her. Girl fear, come on. Don't worry. I will not ask about Cody. Maybe privately. Maybe on camera. What's the T? And I will never share it, I promise, but I do want to know. I just need to know her being

her essence. Because she, because you know what? I saw someone do, like, it was showing the clip of her at the Charlie Puth concert. And so, like, wow, look at all those filters. And everyone's like, she kind of looks the same. Like, people are being a little crazy. She lost a bunch of ways. She does look good. Like, I don't know why people are like, she needs all the filters. I'm like, the entertainment tonight did her

those lights with the non-lighting, I should say. But that's it, but me too. Look at any one of my interviews when you're like this close to the camera and it's all dark and you're not in the thing. Like, people are alone in me. She looks good. I feel like she looks good.

She has the confidence. I don't know what those, get ready to move divorced, but hey, do what you want to. I love making content out of it, I guess. She's like, I just need to look good. I need to look like, damn. I don't know if you want to look like that.

I need to look like Kim Kardashian. Is that what she said? Yeah. Kim, oh, from all. Right. All's fair. I know. She's like, shy away with like the black vest was like this like with no shirt underneath or this like white was showing a little bit of tummy.

I was like, oh my God, I love this divorce court outfit. Kind of crazy, but yikes. Well, they seem happy with her new, her new old man, I suppose. You know, it's cute. But she's giving him a makeover too. She's styling him. She's like, oh, a guy's going to let me give him a makeover. I'm like, grow up.

Back to two months ago, you guys, I might be dating, but I'm just not going to show. my personal life again. Me as fun. Yeah. Always me. Maybe like, I need a break. Never showing another person again. But I love people. It's very Selena Gomez too. Very like I'm taking a break but coming back like normalize just saying that doesn't mean anything. I like it. I think she's I still, I'm still a little bit of a fan.

It is all silly goofy. She's putting it all out there. Sorry I'm like I'm saying I think she doesn't mind a little speculation clearly because I think if it was that serious, you know. It's probably that serious, but maybe to her, she's trying to make it. Campy. Campy. Yeah. My other favorite TikTok drama that I'm, like, really obsessed with,

even though I really don't go here, it's like the blush, the Patrick Todd Blush drama. I was going to bring it up today. I kind of thought you were giving that. The transitional blush today. Inspired by painted by Esther. We did. Because my makeup arts. Look.

Okay. Maybe you should. Well, I had a different makeup study than Ari. I have Ronnie Day. But, you know, makeup artists in L.A. in general are not fans of Pacta. Now, the influencers of L.A. are fans of Patrick Taw. My theory is they're getting that PR because it's expensive. Patrick Taw.

It seems like the influencers really like to rally behind Patrick Taw. I don't know, Patrick Taw. But every glam person, not every glam person. Let me not be that way. A lot of the glam people I know don't have great things to say. That he's not so nice as what I've heard. and always been a little bit of a schemer. Word on the street from just random people I know is that like back in the day he would,

I guess this is not like too, I don't know, maybe it's ethically wrong. You guys can tell me, I don't know. But people did not like him back in the day because he would allegedly DM people's clients and say he would do them for free and that's how you'd get them. I don't know. I suppose that's how you do business, I guess. I guess if someone were to DM me back in the day, I'd be like, I'll do you for free. I guess I'd be like, yeah, okay.

So I guess that's how you got to start. So a lot of makeup artist me look at him a little side eye and be like that's a little shady. I'm having a little ruthless. Yeah. So there's in general not a great buzz about him. Uh-huh. But I did get into this one because I was like,

the blush is beautiful. First of all, I did know painted by Esther. I knew her from, so Sierra interviewed me at the, Euphoria. Yes. I don't think it aired.

Did it ever air? I don't know. I didn't see it. Moses got some BTS in. Remember when I was about to go in and she was there and she was just like beautiful. Yeah. She was like looking gorgeous.

I was like, oh, can I get on Summer House? Like all this stuff like that. She was. And she was like so stunning in person. And I remember like following her on Instagram. And I remember like seeing a painting by Esther did that look on her. And I was like, oh my God. Like so beautiful.

Obviously then I saw that she did like Landria and all these people. So I was like, oh, like I had a note about her. I didn't know this was like a technique. This was what's called blush transition blush is the thing. I didn't know that was like what she made popular. And then when the Patrick Tall stuff because I saw everyone reviewing it. Manny MUA reviewed it. Who else?

I saw so many people talk about. Douse, yes. Everybody was reviewing it, and I was like, oh, it's really pretty. Like, I didn't know. I didn't know. I guess I didn't know it was like a thing. And then I started seeing the drama, and I was just kind of like, oh, okay, because I guess like a big thing in the beauty world is giving credit to people who, like, popularized a trend

or something like that. And I think even painted by Esther gives, she credits Kevin Aquan to being the, like, first person to, like, coin the term to coin the technique. in like the 80s. So coming up on is like way back in the day. So I think that's like the whole thing is you like give credit to people who popularized it. And then I saw.

So I didn't know. I just thought it was like cute. But then I thought I've been hearing about Patrick Taugh, not just for my makeup bars, but then other people online was like Patrick Taugh's been always kind of shady. Allegedly didn't pay some creators and stuff like that. And so I was kind of like, so I've always just heard these rumblings. But I was like, hmm. Then I was watching a TikTok where someone was comparing like the packaging.

Did you see that one? No. It was like his packaging to, I believe it's Juvia's place. Oh, Juvius, yes. Yes. And how, like, yes, how similar the packaging was. And then they showed up painted by Esther showing the technique, like doing a tutorial. And she had said something like, oh, I'm going to put it on the back of my palm.

Did you see that one? And then he was like, oh, I'm going to put it the back of my palm. And most people would say, like, the back of my hand. And she even said, like, oh, that's like something I wouldn't say is the back of my hand. But they used the exact same verbiage. And then allegedly, according to painted by Esther, She was like somebody who worked for Patrick Taught was trying to get a lesson with her and just wanted to like film her doing makeup. And that's not like, hmm, this does feel a little like the verbiage, all of that.

It does feel a little questionable. Yeah. And then I do believe, I feel like we're in court, I do believe Packer Taup probably knows that painted by Esther was the one who popularized this again after Kevin Kwan decades later because he put another video out and in the caption at mentioned painted by Esther. and said like, yes, I realized that Painta by Esther made this popular, but I also was doing this blush technique. Yes. Did I get it right? Yeah.

I'm locked in on this. I know. I love a see you are for it. Yes. Because I was like, I want to get all this right because I think the beauty community is boring. But when there's drama, they do drama. Yeah, that's true. I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.

I'm trying to get all the players. And then you start seeing people because I'm so far removed from. I'm far. were so far removed. I think like kudos also kudos to the beauty community. I love makeup. I love my glam artist. I think it's artistry. I think it's beautiful. All the influencers were making money with all their palettes. Beautiful. Love it for you.

But being so far removed, you do start noticing things, right? You're like, hmm, because people will be like, you can tell they still want to be on Patrick Todd's good side, but also they don't want to get the lashings. Yes. Clock it from their audience. Because even Manny M. M. Way was like totally not like shot up, Manning. We know we know we're no beef anymore.

We don't know if we had beef. We had beef. The Joey Grisepa, iPad party was our beef. I think he was just in solidarity with Laura Lee. Oh, right. Oh, girl, love you too. Did she chime in on Patrick Ta? I don't know. She reviewed it and gave it mixed.

Like, not a glowing review, but yeah. Okay. So I love the honesty. And then Mani was towing that line. He was very much like, oh, if he did take it, that was bad. But, like, he's also known for blush. And then you start seeing, you're kind of like, I feel like these influencers, they kind of want to stay on Patrick Taas's good sign.

PR list, period. And so it is kind of interesting to see the people. And then the people standing out for painted by Esther, which again, I had known her too for a while. And I was like, this is also a really, she's not like, I get it. It's not Patrick Tall where she has like all that behind her, but she is pretty prominent. Yeah. She's like a very popular artist. I mean, she really took off with, she's been around for a while.

But with Alandria, I think a lot of her looks went viral. I also didn't know anything about this. I've noticed obviously like that blush trend. Like it's on a lot of dark skin girls, obviously. But even like Azar Lars and her makeup artist is very similar. It's like different shades, like a gradient of blush, like it goes all the way up into like the, basically your eyes. And it looks really sickening. I'm like, that looks great once I actually knew what it was.

But yeah, Patrick Tall released like his new transitional blush line. And it's like a blush duo and also like a liquid blush. And I think the problem too is that like when he, in the video is promoting it, he's like, this is a technique I created. He also trademarked this technique as well. Oh, wow. that's a whole other layer. Then like, what do you mean? Okay, fine brothers with React.

What do you mean your trademarking this? Oh, I didn't know that. Well, what the fuck. Patrick Todd. Like, okay, I can't be on your side on this one. The fuck. He made, in all the marketing videos, he kept saying, like, this is a technique that I created.

No, no, no. And it's, like, very specific. Like, obviously, this technique's been around for a while, but painted by Estra's, like, popularized it. She also finessed it where, like, the tools that she uses are very specific that, like, people wouldn't normally use to blend. Like, she uses a powder puff.

to blend this like cream concealer into like the blush. So it's all very specific. Oh, that was so technical the way you explained all that. Oh, it's really studying. I really been studying. I really know all that. The cream and the puff and the buff. She just has such a meticulous and specific way.

And she also, because this is a big argument against her. People like, you know, this has been around since, you know, the 1800s. There's been, like, a lot of, uh, in Asian culture, people have been doing it. But I think that's the technique and also the timeliness. Like she popularizes it. Every time Elandria steps out, that girl's making headlines, you know? So she is kind of. of the blueprint for like 2025, 2026.

And yeah, I think the problem he's running into is that he keeps saying, I created it, I created it. But then people have found screenshots of him in last year saying that he's inspired by painted by Esther. And someone even commented, she's like, oh, I thought you wouldn't use powder after you've already used, or I thought you wouldn't use liquid after you used powder. Yeah. And he replied, I'm trying the painted by Esther technique today.

And like, added her. Oh, so he knows. Oh, he knows. He's acknowledged her before, but then released his new product. That's also priced, like, crazy. I think it's, like, $48 for, like, a set of, like a duo set of blush. And- But you have to buy the liquid one separate? Yeah.

It's, like, really expensive, too. So there's, like, so many all layers. So he's, like, gave her credit before. And, yeah, but now he's saying, like, I created I. And then now he's walking back a little bit and also saying, yeah, like, obviously she's the queen of blush, whatever. But I've been doing this for a long time, too. but gagget he's acknowledged that he's changed his technique

after painted by Esther that's kind of the tea no I know no no no no no the girls they'll find your receipts baby they will go through your comments section they will go through every single TikTok until they can clock you case close

Patrick Todd guilty because like what do you mean oh my gosh and then to walk it back and then they acknowledge so yeah no for sure shady to also trade Market shady. To say you create it, it's shady. It's like one thing to like capitalize on a moment. Whatever, I guess he has the money.

So, okay, he can do it. But it's just like to say then I create it and then trademark it. So she can't use it for future. Like if someone were to come to her, like if Orlando is like, I want to do this with you, Esther. And then she can't do it because it's trademarked. It is actually very shitty and very like also not yours. Crazy.

I'm glad the internet's on them because I was like, oh God, okay, I kind of feel bad. I don't let people like attacking anybody. And Petra Trot has a little bit of a hate train. Like he has, he's at haters for a while. So I was like, oh, it kind of sucks. But then I'm like, no, that sucks. Like, it is giving fine rows being like,

we're assuming anyone who uses the word react. Like, you're so insane. What do you mean? And also you didn't create this. And he acknowledged it. That's crazy. Yeah. So like the gaslighting too.

Like, there's receipts of him, like, giving her credit and, you know, giving her flowers last year. But then now when it's time to, like, make his own coin off of this technique. And also the argument, too, is like, that he's been developing this since like 2024, which could very well be true. Like, I don't, transitional blush itself isn't a new revolutionary thing. Yeah. I just been around forever.

But I think when he's doing his, like, videos, uh, and in the packaging, too, of the transitional blush gives you like step-by-step directions. So like, yeah, maybe he was making this product for a couple years, but the, the, the step-by-step, the instructions, the way that he's applying it is very much influenced by painted by that. Like, you just can't ignore that because he acknowledged it himself. So, yeah. And also the whole, like, too, for anyone who doesn't, she's like a black, a black female makeup artist, too. So that adds a whole other layer of, like, black artist always getting screwed over, you know, so. Yeah. Yeah. Damn.

There's so many layers. I was like, I have no involvement whatsoever. Like, you know, I'll wear whatever I have in my little bag when it comes to makeup. Like, I digaffed. What's your transitional blush today. I did. I do like it. I do like that's what different. You walked in and I was like

wait your skin and I don't know if I said skin at the beginning but I'm like your skin does look different. What did you put on? What is it today? It wasn't the real deal because like with transitional blush

you got to have like one like really lighter shade and one complimentary darker like more opaque shade but they do use like a liquid blush and a powder so I use my rare beauty which it's expired minus from 2020.

I got it when it came out like I went to Sephora just to support Selena Marie who pre-billionaire status I was like she needs my dollars so I got this liquid blush but Gagga I've had it since 2020 and so it's been six years and it's it's good a lot of product I was using my rare beauty today too and then what did you put for them um benefits I don't know

I have a palette I have a palette of powders it has a bronzer and two blushes and like a highlighter and I just went in there with whatever I mean I try to do a little ester nachos where like like I blended into the concealer, but I don't know how successful it was. We were trying that too. I think we used maybe a one size because he's best friends with Patrick Star. And I think they were doing the ones. I couldn't, I couldn't really look.

I was like, just no Patrick Todd. He's like, don't worry, girl. I don't have any Patrick Tall on my kid. I was like, love. And that's a funny thing. Everyone who like doesn't go here and like the, you know, the beauty industry and stuff, they're like, oh, I thought you were talking about Patrick Star. Like, that's everything I see on TikTok.

Like, wait, I thought we talked about Patrick Starr. Who's Patrick Ta? It's a whole debacle. Oh, two different Patrick's. They sound very similar. Well, people thought Patrick Starr was the SpongeBob. There's a character in SpongeBob. Did you know that? Yes. Wait, but that's such a crazy

name to choose. Yeah. He chose it before. No, the cartoon was before Patrick Starr. So he's like, I want to be, but then it's also, are you related to Jeffrey Starr? Because you're all both of the, like, it's a very, like, why did we pick these names? And they both had double R's? Or triple R maybe?

Patrick Starr, the beauty guru, has like Triple Star. I think. Ours. Yes. And Jeffrey Star has two. Ours. How many R's does he have?

Yeah. So Patrick Starr, Triple R's. Jeffrey Starr, I think you're right. Double. No, double E's one. Double E's and Jeffrey one. He's just a Jeffrey star. And then it's like, well, are you guys related?

You know, it's like drag families. Yeah. It's like who's the. What is he? Oh my gosh. I don't know how they pick these makeup names, but they are confusing. I mean, if I was famous for blending, I would name myself SpongeBob.

Ooh, that's a good one. Sponge Star. That's a good one. Sponge is a good one for sure. What's your takeaway on all this? When he said there was a TikTok that he was hot topic, I thought you're going to talk about the bricks and mini figurine, the Lego drama that's going on on TikTok.

Oh, I haven't been sure. I was talking about Lego. I think you're talking about Lego is not. Why do you hear your take on the blush drama? To me it just sounds like there's people that they kind of lie to it. Like over time they just adopt something and start believing it. And he just at some point starts believing that this is his. Oh, you think he really does believe it's his.

I mean, you have to be full on delusional claim it, believe that it's his, knowing that there'll be backlash. But he'd be like, well, but I used, I changed one little thing and that makes it mind. You know, well, I just feel like he's sneaky, from what I hear. I feel like it's like just a little sneaky because everyone who's like, again, from the outside. I also don't know Patrick Todd at all.

Like, influencers saying like they didn't get paid. There was one influencer. I think she was a black influencer that didn't get paid. I think Jules LeBron said she didn't get paid by him. I've, yeah. I'm saying somebody that believes his own lies. So I think in every case like that, you'll ask him he probably has a story where he justifies himself and he is famous for blush like he's

i think that was his first product and his line was like a blush but the technique is like what can be argued is like esther's uh what was he what blush was he famous for i forget it was like a cream i think i think it was like a cream of powder blush and that was like his first thing was very glowy um maybe like 20 i was when i was doing beauty con so it must have been like 2019 2018 2018 um yeah he was kind of known for like the glowy he does have a good glow body oil that i always see people on tic-tok talking about it's like it's like almost like this like shimmer glow for your skin i think i own it i think it is good i think that one is good too when i think a blush though i do think of like i think of the one-sized blush because everyone talks about that i think

of gnar's orgasm because everyone used to talk about that i think about the benefit of the benefit ones, like the dandelion. There's so many other ones. I can't think of. I see them all like in those boxes in Sephora. I think of rare beauty. I don't. I really didn't think of Patrick Todd. And I'm not even like shading that because I do know he has a good body glow. But I don't think of him. I really just think of him as people just tell me he always

steals clients when he started out. That's all I know. He's cute. He is a handsome man. Maybe that's why maybe people don't like him because he's maybe able to do handsome. But I think also didn't say trademarking and stealing people's ideas, which he clearly knows. Or maybe doesn't. Maybe Moses's benefit of the doubt is he? No, there's no benefit of doubt. I'm just saying I think he's a delusional person that uses his delusioned to support his bad acting.

I see. Delusional narcissism, I hate you. Not you, Petitza. Is that what you're saying? I agree with you that he's tricky and shady. Okay. Oh, got it, got it, got it. But I think that's his mechanism.

Okay, I hope you're okay. Don't sue me. Honestly, just, you know what? Take the trademark off. And that's it. Just say, like, yeah, I was inspired. paint to be Esther and you know let's work at that you know he needs to pull to James Charles he needs to put $250,000 towards a campaign with Esther like they should do a collab like champagne pop

with Becca cosmetics he but that's why like the what the gag is like he could have just folded painted by Esther into it like imagine if it was like a collab with her and then because painted by Esther doesn't have like her own line right now yeah but if he folded her into the creative and then brought in a landry for the campaign like whoa that would have been And that would have been insane. Yeah, but people are greedy and there's a lot of money involved. And once you start sharing, like, that's, I'm making a lot of assumptions, but it sounds very greedy. The person that steals the idea and not paying people, steal customers.

I think in 20206, you have to know that someone's going to find something. Like, if you were inspired by, especially just out there talking publicly about it, being like, I, you know, I love this. And then all of a sudden, you're doing it. Like, you have to know in 2026, people are going to clock it. People are not going to, like, let you slide with it. So I think even if you're a person, you still got to be like, let's close it. because people are going to know. And that's fine.

If you see a little talent, a little thing taking off, be like, okay, we can make money together. And guess what? That's also just good, carmatically for the universe. Like, if you're just helping put money in people's pockets, especially if they deserve it, it's also just good carmatically. And people are like, oh, I love this collab. They love Patrick Taugh.

They love Esther. It would have been a good collab. I think you missed the mark on this one, which is sad. The stuff is too expensive, though. I'm not going to lie. Like, anytime I would try to buy, like, even the body oil, it is too expensive. It's like people are canceling tours because of the tickets. It's like we need to cancel some of these too many makeup brands overpriced.

You know what I mean? And I think Patrick Taw might be at the start of it, especially as it does look so close. I get not all packaging can look different. I will say that about Jeffrey Starr is like his cosmetic packaging was very unique. Like those little like shapes he would come up with and stuff like that. Yeah. I guess I like the gaudyness of it. And now we're kind of like in minimal packaging era.

Even Cavalanty used to have really gaudy packaging. And hers is even, I don't think she has a makeup plant anymore. Yeah, I don't think so. It was very like gothic, gaudy. Yeah, I liked those. I know I loved. There's one called like flower. You remember that one that used to send me stuff Moses, that flower one?

Mm-hmm. What was that one called? Do you remember? No. It's like start. I think it might have been a Korean makeup company. I always thought it was not in English, yeah. Yeah, I think it was a international one and it was so beautiful.

I think it was called like flower. Oh my gosh. They are so pretty. Gorge. The way it would come is like just these like flower compacts and just beautiful. Yeah, I don't like this whole minimal thing anymore. I like you. but I also think they need some maximalist out there.

Yeah, I feel like it'll swing back again because everything has been like Clean Girl or like skincare makeup. Like Olivia Jade's makeup, beauty line or whatever is like skincare makeup. Like very light coverage but skincare built in. Terrible name. I'm sorry. What is it? Piccola. What does that mean?

Picklea. I hate the name Pickle in any cosmetic thing. Picklea? I don't like it. I don't like it either. I don't like it. I like her, but I don't like that. Pick a lot.

When I hear picola, I don't hear, I don't feel like beauty. You know, like a beauty product. I think like something more food related. Oh, I think like Music Man. Like, pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, pick a little, pick a little talk a little taqa. Do you know that song? Chee, cheat, cheat, teac. Talk a lot.

Pick a little taco little, pick a little teap cheat. It was good. And it was like, good night ladies. It's giving like that. It's giving like that. It's giving 1940s musical. Yeah, that's awful. Especially you're Olivia Jade.

Or something. or Jade Beauty or I don't know something like something prettier than that that's her oh yeah I don't know I like again minimal sometimes but I think we need to bring back some excitement she broke up with Jacob Lordy or what oh Piccola means little in Italian I just okay okay she's just like I'm so tiny let me call it let me call it Piccola I'm so small I mean it's pretty but not for not for a beauty yeah I just don't I don't get beauty for a minute oh oh Piccola actually my Picola. Oh, period. Picola is a full name. Nope. I don't like it. I don't like it either.

We need to rebrand some of these people. Like Road. That's when like it makes sense. You know, like Road Beauty. That's just like her name, Haley Road Bieber, like middle name. Her name's Road? Haley Road Bieber, yeah. I thought it was Baldwin.

Haley Road Baldwin previously. What's Road? So what's Road? Oh. Oh, okay. Okay. So that makes sense. Yeah.

Like Road Beauty and like kind of rolls off. Yeah. Rare disease. Exactly. We get the meanings behind that Fenty. Obviously, Ron his name. Yeah. But, oh, Piccala, it could have been...

I think Jade Beauty. It would have been, like... Jade Beauty. That would have been, Gaggy. Aunt Becky. We're going with past names. You know what I mean? Scandal.

Rowing? Yeah. Roe. Ro beauty. Okay, work. R-O-W. That would have been great. There's so many missed ones, honestly.

I know. We might have to rebrand soon. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Jacob Pilarty's handsome, huh? He's pretty good looking. You can't deny that. To most. You don't think Jacob Pallori is cute.

I think he's tall. I think he's large. I do not believe you. At first I didn't get it because I never watched him anything. But it's like, no, when you look at him, he's like, oh, he is a very beautiful person. He's a big boy. This is crazy that you think his son is hot and not Jacob-Belor. Jakeville already has a chiseled face, like a perfect nose.

He has the right size muscles. He's so, like, that's so insane. He's really skinny. No, no, no shade. No body shaming tea, but, um. He's not. He's got muscles. But he's like really lean muscular.

Like, I mean, it wouldn't take much for him to like, you know, I like him a little bit thicker. Okay. Yeah. Just needs to gain a little weight then. Even that, I don't know. I just don't really see it from. I see it for other people. I don't see it for me if that makes sense.

I do think he's very good looking. I know when I saw him in his Elvis and I was like, this is not in my eyes. Alice. I do not like the Elvis, but watching even in your four. Did you watch this last episode? I didn't watch that episode, but I saw a clip. Spoiler alert. Spoilers are coming.

Ooh. Spoilers are coming. Spoiler warning. Get out now. Spoiler warning. I did see the death scene. Yep. That was, this show's like what is happening? Like what is, like all of it? Like what is happening? Like Moses hit on the head, which I was kind of trying to figure out, which I mean, I should know this because I was

like a massive quote and turning to him back in the day. but it does feel like a Quentin Tarantino movie sometimes. It just feels like so all over the place. The buried alive scene, you see Caleb William too? No. Well, she gets buried alive, spoiler. Uma Therma gets buried alive. And everyone, I saw a TikTok, it's so funny.

Someone was under their bed. And they're like me knowing how I would survive if I was Nate Jacobs. Am I in the frame? It's like you. And to kill Bill, she'd go like this. And you just eventually get it out. But then I saw someone on TikTok say, If you urinate, it softens the soil

because he was in a wooden box. If you just urinate a lot, it will soften the soil beneath you. So then when you're doing this and it's punching through, all the dirt will keep going down and you can, like, get your way out. So he actually could have survived.

Yeah, watch Kill Bill if you want to get out of this because Nate Jacobs was a little pussy and couldn't. But he was missing some digits, right? One. You can still punch. Okay, well, the toe wasn't doing much anyways. It was right there. You know what?

I never saw season one, season two, but people had good analogies on TikTok. They were doing a whole dissertation. They were like, Nate in season one was trying to, like, beat the shit out of anyone, was trying to kill everybody. He was, like, fighting everybody. They're like, why was he giving up so much in season three? Like, he just did not have any fight in him. Like, the whole season, they were like, he was just being like a little bit everywhere.

He was just, like, complaining and, like, running around. And that was like, oh, yeah, I guess. But then I guess people were, like, excited for his death because he was, like, this, like, homophobic, like, abusive, like, asshole the whole time. So it's, like, okay, kind of fitting, I suppose. But he was not trying to survive that box. It was insane. People were mad. I love to when people were, like, this whole season has been, like,

violent, misogynistic, like, all this stuff happening. But people were like, they put a boa instead of a rattlesnake in there. Because they put a boa constructor with like a rattle on the end instead of like a rattlesnake. Oh, yeah. And everyone's like, well, what the hell? What do you mean? Wouldn't you rather have a real snake than like some CGI AI bullshit or something like that? Because they put a real snake in there with them.

And everyone's like, the pattern's not the same. And everyone was like trying to like cancel euphoria because it was like the wrong snake. It was crazy. But I just thought he could have survived it. And it was just being crazy. I do love the girls. I do love euphoria, I think. unpopular opinion maybe

I don't know everyone seems to hate it but I'm kind of liking it it's like a fun ride I think if you like care less you know what I mean like I think people are so invested and that I get like if you're really involved in the emotional arc of like especially that first season

um in season two especially when it comes to Rue and her journey and like her struggle with like sobriety and drugs and everything like I understand how people can get really attached to see themselves and the characters and then it kind of gets like so derailed and it becomes like a camp extravaganza. So I miss the whole like attachment.

So for me and probably you, it's like easier to be along for the ride and just like the chaos and campiness of it all. But I feel like if you probably invested from the beginning, you have a different relationship with a show. But Rue I think is getting a good arc, especially if you're on that thing because like I didn't know, I didn't know the background of it all.

But this last episode was very Moses based. It had like a Moses song at the end. And he was like talking about Moses going to the Promised Land and the Promised Land to her is like, was it Texas or my name? Mexico in the beginning or something like that. And he's like, but Moses never makes it to the promised land. She's giving very Moses because then she finds like a spoiler or it.

She finds all those cars with like the women being trafficked and stuff like that. And she wants to go like help them, which is very Moses coded. Biblical Moses, not this Moses. But I did send it to Moses. And I was like, are you watching that? He's like, no, I didn't like what? I was like, no, you got to watch it because it's, it's biblical. Do you feel connected to him?

No. Do you have any connection to biblical Moses? Do you ever feel like, oh, okay. So you would like this episode. That's why I sent you the clip of someone doing the whole. Anyways, it was very, she's very Moses coded. And I think she sees like a burning, I think she's not like a burning tree or something in this last episode or burning car or something. And that's also very, you know about Moses?

The Bernie bush. You know anything? I hate when my bush burns. I'll tell you that much. Well, I mean, you were seeing God if your bush is burning. We still. We just have a burning bush here for the longest time just like hanging out and downstairs. Yeah.

It's in my office. Is still there? Yeah. From the media. Where we do Patreon? Where the printer is. Oh. an artist yeah i thought you meant you had a bush i kept catching on fire i was like you know

moses just puts it it means you'll be talking about it means you seeing god although moses even biblical moses was a song like some lsd or something like that because i was like do you think he really saw god he's like well i don't know you could have been just like tripping or something like that but anyways well did describe it as a bush that was burning but wasn't consumed it wasn't actually on fire but it looked like on flames like the pattern right well there was a lot of Moses references this last one, including the final song. So I do feel, in my opinion, I haven't seen any spoilers. I do think Rue will make it out.

I think she'll be promising because Moses didn't die. He was wandering that desert for 40 years after he saw that burning bush. So I think she's going to make it out. I think that's the whole arc of it all. Well, if they did the same, she would be, the end of the show would be her standing at the border of Mexico, but not showing her crossing. Oh, okay.

And then we don't know what happened. in season four. I'm sure Zendaya will not be back for season four. In my opinion, it's just like, I'm done. If you were saying

about Nate Jacobs, too, they're like, once Jacob will already getting upset, there was all these memes of him just being like, woo. He was living.

Yeah. Yeah, and the behind the scenes, too, he was like, that's a cool way to go. Like, he was pretty excited about how, about going. He's like, I'm out.

Thank you for the paycheck. I'm done. Yeah. And Sam Levinson said that the reference too for his death was from the movie the candy snatchers where a girl gets buried

alive with a pipe as an airhole. But one day he was driving into work into the Warner Brothers lot, and he had a vision of a snake. And he's like, oh, I got to put a snake in there. Okay. It's also giving Kill Bill volume, too, because the snake is the thing that takes out L. Driver,

what's your name, Daryl Hannah's eye. And it's a black mamba. So I feel like he might have just watched Kill Bill Volume 2. It's like, this looks like, yeah. It's like in his head. He's like, maybe a snake, because that snake was everywhere, too. It kind of came out of nowhere.

And people suspect that it'll be, the finale somehow as well because it's in the poster it's on the poster so they think somehow it'll tie in to which is also very symbolic it's also very biblical it's very biblical this time around too there are snakes in the bible bright adameneuve the snake what the snake do i forget what's snake doing adamant eve he tempted eve to eat the apple from the tree of knowledge that they were not supposed to the snake did how did how did she hear the snake talk where was the devil in the oh but you like snakes snakes are good luck in chinese zodiac we love a snake Yeah, it's not that every snake is the devil.

At that moment, the devil showed up as a snake. Kind of like the obsession. You see that movie? I love obsession. Did you see it? Yeah. I was going to try and go out yesterday because I haven't seen it, but I'm obsessed with all the clips that I'm seeing. Was it good?

It's good. Is it like horror? Because I wanted to take Moses, but it's like too horary. It is technically horror, but it's not like body horror. It's not like super grotesque. It can get gross a bit, but it's not, oh, like. overindulgent. It's a little demonic though. I want to see it so bad. Because at first I was like, I think I first saw Tanna talk about it where she's like, this is so me. And I was like,

oh, what is this? Like whatever. And then she was and then she like took him a coat to see it. He's like, this is you. And so it's like, okay, it's like a cute thing about a girl being like obsessed or something. And then I saw it. I don't know if they're really understanding the concept. Like what? I know. I think I think after maybe it's different. Like from what I was seeing, I was like, oh yeah, this like looks scary. Although I do love, I do love a whole freaky Friday situation like wish upon a star like I want this person to be obsessed. with me. Yeah.

Love me more than anything. Is that one he's done? Yeah. The YouTuber who did it? Yes, he's a YouTuber. It was a very like low budget film. And the, I'm going to avoid spoilers because I feel like you really got to go into it. That's a voice.

But the concept is like, yeah, it's like a wish gone awry, basically, where he has a crush on a girl and just wishes for her to fall in love with them more than anyone else. And then things go. Well, from what I've seen too, no spoiler, is at the beginning is like she, they're like on a date. They kind of like each other. Right? No, they're just a friend group. Mm-hmm. It makes more sense.

Well, it seems like they kind of had a little flirtation from the little scene I saw. Yeah, I mean, they're just like good, like really good friends. Like, they're a friend group and they're like, yeah, it's like a group of four and they work together and they just have a really like good dynamic as a four-some, you know, as friends. But yeah. I read all the spoilers, but I won't spoil it. I'm not surprised. Sounds horrific. It sounds crazy.

That's why I want to see it. It is crazy. It's just like a very well done film, very well acted for sure. Like I love seeing everyone's doing showing their self-tapes now. And everyone who auditioned for it, I was like, damn, that lady, the girl, the actress, what's her name? I think it's indie, I want to say. Let me make sure. She was so good.

And like she's so pretty too. I was every time she was on. Yeah, Indie Navarette. She was so good. And I love seeing all the clips. And anyways, it made me think of it because you were saying the snake. was not really the devil but possessed by it because, okay, yeah.

So it's not really possession, you wouldn't say. I don't know. This was my one, like, thought when I left is I wish there was like a little bit more lore. Like what happened? Yeah, as to like the rules and everything. Because it kind of reminded me

a little bit of weapons from last year where there was like some lore and some magic or whatever involves. But then we got this big, like, scene that explained the origins of Aunt Gladys that, like, showed what the powers and everything came from. And I was like, okay. So I wish there was a little bit of a lore drop in there somewhere. But also, like, it was such a small, like, low budget film.

So it kind of made sense that it ought to be, like, very contained and stuff. It also sounds like the storyline is not about what makes wishes come true. It's more about what you wish. Or how simple wish, something that's so romantic as simple can turn into a complete disaster. a nightmare. Have you not seen any clips of it? No, but I understand the premise from what he said. Yeah. Very bad. Then it becomes an allegory for consent and everything as well, which I think

I see all that too. Yeah, so. But it's very well acted and it's made like over a hundred times its budget because it was so it was such a small low budget movie. And like it was only I think maybe like five different sets. It was like a restaurant, a bedroom, another room, a bar.

Like it's very small, very contained, but like it didn't feel a low budget. Like it felt like you know. And did one person write and directed or is it? Yeah, he's a huge I forget his name. It's like Curry, Baker Baker Curry. That's amazing to do

Curry Barker. Curry Barker. It's giving do you remember totally sketch? I know I always ask you about this. I don't remember them but I know they come up for you a lot. Yeah, Michael Gallagher because he did he did Shane Dawsonor movie Smiley. Do you remember Smiley? Do you remember smiling? It's giving what they thought was going to be smiling was this

you know what I mean but you know what you want to try I'm all for even if they flop by like yeah you should you should definitely try and we are in the good news for you we are in the age of YouTuber movies because Markiplier just had his horror movie not that long ago like six months ago horror and yeah that was a big

it was a big success what was it called? God I don't even forget it am it's just coming on on YouTube like this month and same thing he didn't he didn't do like it wasn't like a normal distribution or anything. It's really just fan supportive. Yeah.

This is the direction to go, I think, the horror route. Because he tried to get a market player, try to get a distributor for his movie, and no one would pick it up. So he just, like, did it himself. And like, the fans were like, no, you need to put this movie in theaters because we want to see it. And it ended up making, it almost became number one. It was, like, very close

with, like, a big universal movie send help. But the fact that it was, like, neck and neck with a huge, like, movie like that was crazy. I have some ideas now I think I need to go in the horror market I have some ideas and I know a really good writer Oh my gosh

What if you combine like K-pop and demons Hunters Yeah I'm like okay I'll get on that to Netflix But Alex is a good writer and director I have the idea in stories Oh my God I feel actually I could direct it honestly too

I could direct this okay this might be the new route We're going I really like this idea Shane also take note You're a horror fan let's pause canceled And start a horror movie because he's really good at horror. I think this canceled as giving Y2K. I think we need to give some horror because that could be his direction. I'd be glad for him

if he had a obsession hit on his hands. He has some twisted thoughts. I'm sure he could come out with a movie in a good way. In a good way. Do that instead. I think that's great. Put Ryle in it. Whoever you want in it. I think it could be a hit. That's my two sentence for you, Shane. Or she put yourself in it. You're pretty good actor. Put yourself

in it. I think that's the way to go. That's my... Yeah, I love it. I do love that. It's giving like paranormal activity too, where that's kind of like that was my generation of it being like a low budget and then it becomes a hit baby reindeer. Okay. Now the tavern made is becoming a horror movie. I think that's the way we're going.

Because it is, this obsession when I wish I wrote, I do love it. I feel like, I do love the idea of that, especially like reverse. I feel like I would be like the guy that wished like somebody would like fall in love with me or something. I haven't seen the movies. I don't know the entirety of it. Yeah. I think we've all wanted that at one point. Like someone to, how did you ever, I don't want to say like put a spell on, but did you ever like wish really hard?

like I just I wish this person would like me or no in high school for sure I think my whole life I was like I wish this person would just love me I I'm sure as an adult at some point because I would be very quick to like after one good conversation on one of the apps be like this is it yeah we're in love yeah I was in all my friends look at my new man oh I did that too yeah so I'm sure I at some point I did I did I I just remember vividly in high school, like, wanting so bad for, like, shout out Dennis. I was, like, playing tear drops to my guitar thinking about him at night. Oh. What was Dennis? Where was he at?

Was he a boyfriend? What's going on? He's straight. Oh, wow. Problem number one. I know. But when you're, like, when you're 16. Oh, I know.

I was 28 with a gay boyfriend. And I was like, please love me. Please like me. Everyone's like, he's gay. I was like, no. It's okay. That's funny. But I think he's an actor now.

He was in Escape the Night as an actor. Oh. Yeah. It doesn't get any bigger than that. Just kidding. Escape the Night is great. Honestly, Joey, maybe make Escape the Night into a horror movie. Like real horror.

He was trying. He just made it a little too camp and cute. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think he just went full on, you know. And you get some funding. I just need a million dollars. How do I get that?

Don't ask James Charles. That's my favorite joke ever. I love you. Oh yeah, he came out with an apology, right? Yes, he sure did. Everyone's like, no. People don't accept it anymore. That's like your fourth one, we're done.

You know what he did on YouTube though? Like he did the Tower Banks thing where he was poor for a day and he like got dressed up. He did homeless makeup. Just recently? Yeah, like in tandem with the apology video. He got like in unhoused makeup and walked down downtown LA to like understand what it was like. Stop it. Let me see.

No. Did he? Oh, my God. Honestly, I would like that a little better than when he went out. I kind of wish he did. Then it's kind of camp, but you're kind of like, all right. I wish he had the Tower Banks. Like, I want to see what it's like. Because in his apology video, the third one, he was very much like,

I spoke to so many people. Sorry. This is crazy. I spoke to so many poor people. And now I finally know what it's like to be you guys. I paraphrasing clearly. But I was like, honestly, you should have just like gone and done a vlog. like in like a Tyra Bank style

just go live the life. He should have hired you for your thoughts. Did you ever hear back from your email? Never sent the application email. You were too scared. He might want you. He might be like, oh, we got too deep. We went too far.

That's the horror movie. See, that is giving horror movie. You go too far into it. You went too deep. It was just starting to be a joke and then you're in James Charles and obviously he's just like, you never make it out. That reminds me.

Someone did a horror spoof of James Charles. God, is a TikTokers. His name is Brett. but he did a whole impersonation with the flashback Mary or whatever and did like a horror and the impersonation is so good it really was Sister Spooky Flashback Mary is a good horror one because that is giving

the Mary Mary when you go in the bathroom and be like you know what I mean? Like you just show up. The Bloody Mary yeah bloody Mary yeah it is their sisters literally that's this horror movie I would just give him a good idea watch you get a million dollar horror movie called sisters but yeah the gag of it all is he started his own foundation, which I thought was pretty funny.

And nonprofit. His own nonprofit. The painted fund? Painted foundation or something. And it's like... I know that when I post this video today, there will probably come to people saying, you know, James, you're only making this response because of the backlash. And I want you to know, that is true.

I don't know if that's the move. The painted project. The painted project. It can be a little, you know, most of them are good. Nonprofits, of course. But if you have a shady leader, nonprofits can be shady. And you're just kind of like, hmm, kind of odd. Why don't you just work with current foundations?

And I know I've been, listen, I've been on record saying, you know, at least performative activism, they're like real people who benefit from it. So I'd rather something be performative than nothing at all because at least like regular people will get something out of it and get help. but Jackie Ina actually said this in response to the James Charles of it all was like the thing is though like if you don't have a generous heart I don't know if that can ever change and I was like she kind of clocked yeah too because even though like yeah he is you know donating $250,000 and to his own foundation and has plans you know to help everyone I'm like it comes across very insincere to me because like I just don't

think it's in the spirit I don't think it's in the spirit at all I mean he says it in his video like you might think James you're only apologizing because of all the back. backlash, you're right about that. And I'm like, okay. Okay. No, like, no. Like literally that. And also it's like this all happened like two weeks ago or like, yeah, two weeks ago.

It's like, and the day later you're like, I'm not sorry. I stand by everything I said. And then all of a sudden now it's like it's all disingenuous. And it's like, yeah, be performative, but be performed. Because he even says like, you know, nonprofits take years for them to start working. So why don't you donate to a charity now that's currently helping people that are unemployed? And like what? start with like that

the, who's the original? Amber. Like start maybe, you know, the $250,000 is great to your own nonprofit. Start with, you know, a couple thousand to her. You know, a couple thousand to all these other people. It's like the fact that you're going to your own nonprofit first and putting all this money in after you were just saying you're not sorry and this and all that stuff like that. Like we know the kind of person you are

currently two weeks ago. Can people change? Yes. Can they change in two weeks? No. I think that takes like life and life lessons and all that stuff to learn. So it's like, it's all disingenuous. And I think people were over it like honestly like you said i guess it's better than nothing the comeback is way too quick if you just start doing another makeup tutorial next week it's like yeah okay and also this is so james charles so jimmy chalk coded because literally since i think the big shift and his apologies was like by sister where like he would come back and he acknowledges a bit of it right like he

acknowledges something where like he reclaims the narrative so he's like yeah i did do this but this this and this. So like there's like a pivot, you know, to something else. And then even with like when he was texting miners and once he confessed to in his video, I was like, I was desperate. He's like, you're right. I was desperate. You know, so like he admits to something and then apologize. And it almost feels genuine because he is emitting to like the worst

part of it or whatever. Yeah. Part of it. Not even the worst part of it, but part of it. And then, uh, but then he pivots and then I don't know, he just gets away with it. Like he comes across like faux humble. Yeah. but then it's very distant But we see it And you know

Another six months Is something else gonna happen It's just like Yes May watch out James Charles want me Just sit me out It's your quarantine

That's your time to just go away Because it is Yeah It all is ick And The fact that I had a lot of likes I mean people are still A fan

And ultimately I don't think he's uncancable I think there will be a day James Charles Will be like Finally canceled But I think it's his own doing But I think

Maybe he can turn it around Maybe he can It's gonna take more than this I thought it's got to take like some action. But like you said, like Jackie said, all that stuff. If it's not in your heart, it just won't. Yeah, I just, I don't really see it for him. It will be a test of time.

Like you have to, because he didn't come up with this, first of all. Yeah. This is a very, what he described is very complex. It's very complicated to create all the foundation and all the different. Because it's not just a one thing. It's a very multifaceted with different phrases and all that. So somebody set down. and created all that.

They pitched it to him. And they told him what the criticism will be. And they told him how to answer to that. You know, like, oh, it'd be low salaries and this and that. So he's like diving into every aspect of it. So obviously a crisis PR management company jumped in, created all this for him. Great. I mean, I'm happy he's taking action because that's what we ask him to do is to take action,

to do something. Now, on the long run, it's not easy to run a nonprofit. There'll be employees. there'll be people he has to work with. There'll be a lot of things you'll have to do to keep this going. Does he have the capacity to do that? So we'll see. I mean, it's a test of time,

but it could become a great foundation that will do a lot or it will crumble within a year or two. Yeah. But I would give him a chance, you know, at least make something that can help. But you'll have to work hard to make it work. Yeah, I say I could take a couple years. So I think if it collapsed in a couple years,

and what all the money go that he donated to himself. Mm-hmm. And also, like, the website, the link that he promotes, like just goes to his, like, makeup website, too. Oh. So that's also kind of annoying.

So there's not a foundation page, like a... It's a, there's, like, a landing page on the website. Like, the same website where you hear the plan for his foundation. It's also, like, buy my new lullet. Oh, okay. And, like, I know it's pretty popular. Like, I know Selena Gomez, she has, like, the rare impact fund for rare beauty.

but it's also like rare impact.org like it's a separate website yeah and like a mission and yeah yeah so i don't know and it's also like girl you we're having doing such a fit about $500 and then now you're just throwing to it in a 50 it's so weird like you have that much money and you were so upset about $500 is crazy yeah that is wild now the whole thing is gross and weird just like him yeah and yeah whatever. I mean, good for it, good for it. But also, I'd be skeptical to donate to the Painted Foundation. Just keep donating to yourself, I guess, and just try and help people, if that's what you're going to do in the long run. There's also very many organizations. And GoFundMe's out there that you could be donating to that could help people right now in real time.

So good luck to it, like you said, but y'all be careful donating to the Painted Foundation. Uh-huh. There's many other organizations out there. We'll listen below, actually, because there's probably so many other ones you could be helping that are currently actively doing well. people. T. But basically what he's trying to do is just mutual aid and like mutual aid is a thing that like has been going on forever and also it's like not exclusive to starting your own foundation to do.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Especially with like the ice raids, people need a mutual aid. Like there's been so many crises like Palestine. Like there's been so many and like it's so easy to just like donate when you see them, share them when you can. Yes. Again, I can't believe we had to go through all this just to get to mutual aid.

Like that's the big resolution. That's insane. Like your own. Yeah. Yeah. could be doing him out there. I don't know. I don't like him.

I don't like James. Every time we talk on it, it's like, oh, it's like the, yeah, it's like a little, I mean. I know. That is a horror movie. We should write one about him. That would be easy. It would be the biopic, baby. The biopic is the horror movie.

Who's playing him, though? Who's playing James Charles? That, whoever we cast needs a lot of therapy. Yeah. Cleansing. Uh-huh. It's almost like casting the Harry Potter kids. Like, you're setting those kids up to be eaten alive.

like you really got to protect the talent. Oh, God. And David would probably love it too much. Yeah, T. Yikes. Well, just like look at each other. He is something else. He's a piece of work.

I know. What do you think his next move is come out with another palette? See, it's going to be funny seeing him navigate, though, because, like, he wants so badly to, like, still be shitty and he can't. Like, he loves being crazy. Yeah. Well, that's who he is. Exactly.

Mean girl complex. because he was a loser in high school, which is the tea. Like, he was a nerd. He had terrible taste of fashion. No one liked him. He looked a mess. He was happy to look a mess. Right.

And he was just like a loser. And now he's living out his mean girl complex because he has money in a BBL and thinks he can bully people. Well, baby, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Yeah, I don't know if it's working out. No. That's why I am very much seated for the James Charles lashings.

Like anytime anyone's posting in James Charles, like, think piece about the Speer Airlines. I've heard the Speer Airlines video 30,000 times at this point, but I'm seated every time someone's making a video. I forgot to bring this up earlier, but that just reminded me of in London, did you see the drag queens doing the Trisha show? Yes. That was everything.

The next day. Yes, I didn't know. I would have stayed an extra day. I had no idea that was happening. It was because the girls were doing a little lip sync to a, to a Trisha monologue. And I was like, I could almost do a lip sync to James Charles Speer Airlines video because I know it so well. You just haven't memorized.

I love all the queens. They were so teeny doing you. I know. I was like, okay. Body, Eddie, I know. They looked so bad.

I know. Adam actually had told me, I think, the night before. And I, like, left the next day, 6 a.

But had I known, I probably could have stayed an extra day to see it. That is, like, the ultimate. That is, like, a tribute to you. Uh,

like, a tribute to you. Should have been, in London. No else. I was like, right there. That would have been,

I know I missed it. I'm so sad about it. Next time. Next trip I go. There is, where is it? Oh, in New York. They do the drama get in drag show.

There's like a tahty. No. Yeah. Now currently? It was a couple months ago, but I think they've repeated it. Because one of the drag queens that does Shane, they're on TikTok and they do their impersonation on TikTok.

It is really good. They do it really well. There is a queen that does a really good show. Maybe they've done like me there too. It's called, Jimmy, you can bleep the first half. the Fiasia. Have you heard of that? I think that's, is it like, Hell's Kitchen or something? Yeah, yeah.

And they do a lot of those too. They do a lot of the, I wonder if that's the same, because they do a lot. I've seen them do like influencers. Yeah. That's fair. I love, I love shows like that. I love a drag show. Oh, we have to end on my,

I forgot about this topic too, but the Tati Westbrokegogo juice. I really want that gogo juice. Tati, please, hand us some. No idea what you're talking about. But before I forget, I want to hear about it. Before I forget, good drag queen name, Fish Upatis. Like fish?

I love it. anyways, okay. What's here about the go-go shoes? Was that good or what are we laughing at? I don't know if you're laughing at or... The break? Okay. No, I see the vision.

I see the vision. Fisha. I think it used to be a little bit even punnier, though. Oh. Yeah. Fisha fist this. There we go. Okay.

That's it, baby. Fisha. Okay, yeah, okay. Fisha fistless is amazing. Okay, I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trisha fadass. Fisha fat ass.

Fisha pay this money for me to perform. Okay. Back, I have not seen the Tati Goto juice. What is it? We have to get to our extended Patreon, too. I have Wizard Liz. I want to have what Wizard Liz on there. Oh, D.

Well, I don't have much to say. This is just a pleading it on that. What's the Gogo juice? She came back with a new product and it's... It's called Gogo Juice? It's Tati's Gogo juice. She just took that from Towers and Tierra. She just, like, literally stole that too.

What's it's that for all the beauty people stealing everyone's ideas? Let's credit. We're not going to get all the PR list. Tadlers and Tierra's. She calls it Gogo Juice? It's Toggi's Gogo Juice. Wait, I think so. For her, literally toddlers and tiaras.

That's crazy. I'm pretty sure that's what it's called. Yes, Tachis Gogo juice. Is she honey boo-boo? What? Unfair advantage Taki Gogo juice. It's like an energy drink. Influencers need to be stopped.

Too many people creating. Tati, I have no affiliation. You want the Gondo juice? I want that Dau-Gos. I want that day. NPR list. Come on. Tati, you are, I had to always remind you.

I have a Tati Apologist, I know. Which is crazy. Tati, the 40-year-old. That's how Tati was right. I mean, just ahead of her time, I fear, but. Also, attacking a little, she befriended him at 17 years old, so maybe that's on you, girlfriend, at 38.

Like, I'm her age now, and I couldn't imagine being a 17-year-old. Like, I befriended, and he acts like a 17-year-old. Like, what are you doing? Calling yourself mom to him. She should have called it time and place, or just straight-up, sucking. Oh my God. That would have been a good name. That would have been good for the grinder audience. If she released like a popper line where it was like sucking. Oh my God. She would be a billionaire.

Oh my God. You should apply to her for asking for her. You have so many good ideas. James Charles will get none of those ideas. Did we post it on the Patreon? Which one? Yeah. You have the TikTok that you did on there? Yeah. Well, I didn't. I wanted to really finish and post it, but I'm like, I can't. Because people, it was a bit and then people were trying to use that against me. Like, they were like, wow, how can you be applying to work for anti-Spirit airlines? Did you not edit the TikTok together? No, because I didn't want to contribute to the James Charles like love. Put it off for Patreon exclusive.

They need to see that. That was so good. It's a joke clearly. It was also before the James Charles, real, the craziness that came out from it. But it was before spirit. You need to do it. That's so good. Okay, T.

Maybe I'll just still do it. I have all the footage still. Just for Patreon. The TikTok's easy to edit, I would assume. It's like. Yeah, it is easy. I mean, I have the clips in there. I just didn't TikTokify

if that makes sense. You know what I mean? Okay, yeah, we need TikTokify I think it could be good. All right, you guys. Well, thanks for being here. Let us know if you want Tati's Go Go Juice or James

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It's coming out soon. The more closer it gets, the more nervous I get, I'm like, ooh, I got to do the audiobook, and I'm nervous. I'm going to go through the audio book and be like,

oh, maybe I shouldn't put all this in there and it'll be too late because the final manuscript has been handed in and now I'm getting nervous. And I'm like, ooh, I don't know what's going to happen. But it's going to be out there,

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