Just Trish - May 20, 2025

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

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You know what I mean? Just all of that, all of that. Like him talking to James about the Hawaii and trying to come out and then James flying him out. But also just being such a liar. Being like like why would he be in my back? Yeah, I think you're both such losers Yeah, you know Her name is Trish she's got the fish and all the gossips filthy rich pretty and pink Hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks

She's just rich Yay! Hello! Happy Tuesday! Welcome back to your favorite podcast Favorite podcast It's just rich! We're back from the Herors of Trish tour.

What a weekend it was. We're off for about a week and a half and in this week and a half we have so much to do. Pride rehearsal, Elvis' birthday, Lilo and Stitch.

We gotta go see the weekend movie tonight. We have so much to do this week. I don't know how we're gonna catch up on it all. But before we get into it,

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That's cute. Yeah, that opens up our show. It says, my name is Trish and you're watching Disney Channel and there it is. Plus we do bonus episodes every week of the podcast. You get an extended hour every Wednesday or Thursday and then we do a bonus video every Saturday and Sunday. Me and Oscar usually eat and react to something and it's kind of our thing now and it's kind

of amazing. What did we eat last time? It was really good. Wendy's. We are in love with Wendy's. Oh, we tried the new Frosties. Yes. That was good.

What did we react to? Oh, we reacted to Gene. To Austin McBroom. They all blend together at this point. Yeah, there's a lot of troubling men out there and they do all blend together at this point. Yeah, there's a lot of troubling men out there, and they do all blend together at this point. I know. Every time I think about them, I think of Gabbie Hanna's song, like, what if I'm the monster? But I think about them.

I'm like, what if you're the monster? Like, I feel like it's about them. T. Yeah, she needs to release that monster Gabbie's version. But about someone else. Yeah, maybe, yeah. I don't think Gabbie was the monster. I think she was ahead of her time.

I think she's okay now. Now. Yes. Yes. She watched Righteous Gemstones one time and became Christian gospel singer with her boyfriend. I love it. They're like doing Christian music. And we accept Labubus.

We get paid by Labubus. Labubu donations. Oh my God. You didn't even see the little outfits. Yes. These were from. I got so many Labubus. I'm sick. Well, I got so many LaBooBoos.

I'm sick. Well, I got a gift for you over there. There's some Oscar gifts. That little box is for Oscar too. It looks LaBooBoo sized. It does.

I know. I was like, wait, I think there is one for you. Oh, and an axolotl. Oh my goodness. Wait, did the axolotl come in the gifts?

This is so cute. A previous gift. Oh, cute. Thank you. Kat and Lexi, thank you so previous. Oh, previous gifts. Oh, cute. Thank you. Kat and Lexi, thank you so much. Oh my God, Animal Crossing stuff?

Loves Kat and Lexi, yes. Oh my God, I love when you got out on the road. Monster High. There's one for Jamie. There's probably more. There's probably more stuff

which like haven't gone through it all yet. Moses went through it. Like I got home two hours ago and he's been trying to go through it. Thank you so much. They were so nice.

Yes, this is Kat and Lexi were at the super vip they were super nice oh what is how cute is that that's ponyo that's ponyo for a baby boy i didn't see that one yeah ponyo onesie oh my god you see the boy oh that's her baby boy they really want a ponyo baby gosh so many names to choose from it's so hard i mean this is where are the cats they're in the water how beautiful yeah there's another artist named kick he has an album called oh what the water knows water knows i think is that so somebody sent a box and i'm gonna the water yes water knows his whole album is Water Bass. He's so cool. He's come to like three of my Mean Greets.

Oh, this is his? Yeah. He does music videos. I thought it was a gift from somebody. No, no. This is like his music. His real name, I believe, is... Oh, I think it's Casey.

I think it's... Yeah. Wow, that's a really cool cover. He's a Twitcher, too. He's going to like TwitchCon in Amsterdam. He's like, are you going to come to any more shows? He's like, no, I'm going to TwitchCon. I think it's Amsterdam.

Did he send it? Yes. So you get this whole box. I think it's very bougie. He gives me bougie vibes every time I see him. I'll open it on my fish reviews on TikTok. Yeah, everyone gave you tin fish. Because there's like a whole collection.

Oh, yeah. It's so fancy. There's like Mexican tin fish too. There's like a lot of tin fish in here for you. Beautiful stuff. Beautiful. Thank you. Yes, everyone.

What is yours? Is yours a lubub tin fish in here for you. Beautiful stuff. Beautiful. Thank you. Yes, everyone. What is yours? Is yours a LeBooBoo? I got so many LeBooBoos. I felt like Jewel Sparkles tipped in LeBooBoos today, this weekend. That's the way to go. Oh my gosh. Yes, a little Havasi. Should I open it?

Yeah, yes. I'm so excited. So LeBooBoo pilled. And there's more. Oh my God, so many LeBooBoos. Oh my God, and a little LeFufu. How cute. Oh, that's a LeFufu, yeah.

They actually did tell me those were LeFufus. How do you know? Both are LeFufus? I don't know. I guess the eyes, yeah, theFou. How cute. Oh, that's a LeFouFou, yeah. They actually did tell me those were LeFouFous. How do you know? Both are LeFouFous? I don't know. I guess the eyes, yeah, the eyes are kind of weird. Yeah, that one. This one, the eyes are funny. This one, I don't know.

That one looks real. I mean, I'm not really good at telling, to be honest. Jimmy can put it. He knows. He's a professional. He knew the bling ones. He's like, I think they're real. He can tell.

Yeah, you guys, Jimmy has gotten to me. He's a terrible influence, to be honest. All of us. Jewel Sparkles opened the door for the LeFooboos because you know i've been resisting and then once the door opened yeah it's been bad and jimmy is such an enabler because we just text each other all the time with like five minutes on the tiktok live they're gonna drop them and it's like it's really sick how many do you have now i have 14. Wow. Oh, my God.

That's crazy. One week. I had another drug deal in a parking lot last week for the boo-boos. And it was the seller on Facebook. I met up with her in a random parking lot. And she was like, I was really scared when I saw your photo. Because I was like, oh, no, a straight man. I'm going to need my fiance to come with me. But then she's like, and then when I opened your picture bigger, I saw it was you. And I'm like, oh, no, a straight man. Like, I'm going to need my fiance to come with me.

But then she's like, and then I when I opened your picture bigger, I saw it was you. And I'm like, oh, I'm a fan. And then she's like, I knew I was safe. And I'm like, period. Yes. Oh, my God. That is so funny. That's good. And I had to give her all the lore about how I became very libubu pilled.

But they're like all I think about literally all the time. Yeah. Never heard that term before. You know, the matrix pill. The red pill. Oh, you have the libubu pill. I took the libubu pilled but they're like all i think about literally all the time yeah never heard that term before you know the matrix pill the red pill yeah oh you have the little pill yeah that's so funny little cutie oh that's cute oh my gosh so cute his eyes are like let me see his eyes his eyes are winky i haven't seen one winking oh that's it that's funny i think it's it's hee-hee. How fitting. It's hee-hee. A little laughing one. It's so cute. I love him so much.

People waited in line. I'm like, are they easy to get up here? They're like, no, we have to wait like two hours. They're not easy to get up. I have a confession, too, because I had to. I also went on Facebook to find. Because you can't find them anywhere. You got a little boo-boo for yourself? Yeah, I had to get my own boo-boo.

Yeah. What was that? Oh, my God. Oh, who is you? What is that? What do you mean? I don't think it's a little boo-boo for Yeah I have to get my own little boo-boo Yeah What was that? Oh my god Oh who is you? What is that? What do you mean? I don't think it's a little boo-boo I paid a lot of money for that

Babe where did you get that? What? Where did you get it and why? I was in that little boo-boo I'm dead What is it? I went to the parking lot. I had to like, you know, exchange money transfers and pay for it with Bitcoin.

When did you get this? Isn't it the origin story of the Labubus? Do you know what it is? Is it something that we should know? Is it like a... Everyone knows this. What is it? Well, the wild things.

Oh, yes. Where the wild things are. Okay. Is that the original of Boo Boo? I'm so good. I don't know what that is. I think so. And how much did you pay for it?

Too much. Did you just get it now at Barnes & Noble? Yes. Oh. You went with Barnes & Noble. Oh, it's a little day. Okay. Okay, SNL over there.

Yeah, I was like, did we plan this? Is this like inside? It looks like you kind of. It's kind of you with the yellow shirt and the orange shirt today and the beard and the big hair. Yeah, you're kind of matching it. Oh, my God. That's so funny. I went with Malibu to Barnes & Noble.

Okay. Just a morning date. And I saw this. I was like, wait, this is – because I always, when I saw Labubus, I thought where the wild things are. The teeth, I guess. That's about it. Everything about them. Right?

Like if you put this in glam, you get a little boo-boo. Okay. Okay. It's just the proportions aren't as sweet. Yeah, it's not as cute. It's like big head, small little body. No big charm. This one is actually not as demonic as this one.

Oh, my God. Not demonic. Demonic? Look at his red eyes. It's got little pink eyes and stuff. Yours has like eye bags underneath it and a big fat nose. He's been through a lot. Yeah.

He's older. He's much older. Okay. Well, go put a key chain on it or something. I am. I'm going to put it on my back. How are you going to hang it up? I don't like that thing.

At least you know that one won't get stolen. That part. I don't know. Congrats, babe. I'm happy for you. I guess no one gave you a little boo boo so you might have got one yourself he had to take matters

into his own hands yeah oh my god I love love love them yeah these two came too from fans I guess Louis Vuitton

stuff they buy after put it on there I don't know what? I don't know how do they get these clothes they're not a little boo boo oh yeah yeah

I think they have like a Prada collab that's like a little Prada outfit they have like all these designer outfits oh they have the collabs yeah I don't think I think they have, like, a Prada collab. That's, like, a little Prada outfit. They have, like, all these designer outfits. Oh, they have the collabs. Yeah. I think the Louis Vuitton one maybe is fan-made, but it's really cute.

It is really cute. We have a whole collection. Someone else gave me a cry baby. We have so much stuff. Like, we'll have to show it the next episode, too, because there's just so many things. Keep the La Boo Boos coming, y'all. Yeah, they're so funny. We have, like, like pasta hair clips oh

oh that's cute high school musical wallet that's everything vintage i love it y'all know the branding very well so shout out yes it was pasta mug cam oh wow they people bring so many gifts it's very nice i this weekend in particular was so many gifts. And I told everyone to guard the Labubus with their life. Literally. Because I was like, don't let anyone take them. Everybody loves Labubus on tour. So thank you for everything. The tin fish for Moses. The Labubus for Oscar.

I appreciate Labubus. Someone gave me a crying one too. I don't know where this is, but they gave me another little crying baby. Oh, I love little crying babies. Yeah. It's a little box. It's fine if it's not there. She was super sweet. Oh, I think it's in that one, it's a little box. It's fine if it's not there. She was super sweet. Oh, I think it's in that one. You see it? Yeah.

Oh, yeah, there was crochet hats for... I think there's like three, right? Yeah. You, Malibu, and Elvis. Yes. A lot of crocheters. People love to crochet. Yeah, it was amazing.

It was so fun. This little purse, too, someone gave me from the audience. They had it. Oh, my God. I know. They made it and gave it to me on stage. So never ending.

It feels like a birthday every time I go out. It's so fun. It's so fun. I know. I love when you come back and there's little trinkets. I know. So we probably have more. We have like so much more to go through.

So there'll be more things. So cute. Yeah. It's so fun. I know. There's like otters for you. There's like stuff too. Love.

You guys know I love trinkets. I know people are starting to be over the boo-boos. And I'm trying to deprogram my brain. Like I've been watching video essays on like Pop Mart and the problem with overconsumption to kind of make me not be like, okay, no, you have to like take it easy. But I just love them. I love them so much. I don't care.

If it makes me problematic, I don't – then so be it. I don't think it does. So be it. I think that's why people like them. They're so unproblematic. Right? Okay, good. They're just like cutesy things that people love in this world. But it's pendulum effect. Even though the little boo-boos aren't safe, I feel like soon it's going to come the other way.

Yes, I've already heard. People are going to be over it. It looks like they're about to get veneers, you know, when they shade the teeth down. They're like... Sick. They're so cute. I know. I love the little teeth. People love to take it down elizabeth who i met um to get the laboos last week she was like oh and then the big energy set like she's like you need that secret one because it's rainbow and like of course she was like she was she was so funny does she have it she has them yeah she's like you need that one next because

it's it's rainbow and it's gay. So of course you need it. I was like, work. I love that. We do need it for pride for sure. Are they rainbow or are they like each a different color? The new set, the secret one is gray fur, but then everything else is rainbow. Like the teeth are rainbow and stuff.

So it is very fried. Are you going to get it? It's hard to get the secret ones. The secret ones go for like a couple hundred dollars what's the most you spent like for the boo-boo 33 is the most i've spent so oh 200 for one yes you want to explore it on that i'm not gonna say no because there will probably come a point where i like have the rest of them and need it and then my brain is like treat yourself but as of right now no and you don't put them on your bag or your clothes no with so many you can spare one or two if they get stolen or lost even darian um he he's always thought they were sweets but he um got one the other day and it like changed his brain chemistry like he opened it

and the way that he looked at it was as if he gave birth like he loves her so much it's like this little yellow one with a little heart holding a heart and a crown and he's like wants to take her everywhere i'm like no you have to keep her safe no no i disagree i used to be someone who like saved all my stickers but guess what they get lost they go out of. Like wear them now while they're cool and they're in. You have so many. Put one on a backpack.

You know? That's cute. Because people are stealing them. He's like, for him it's like a museum. Yes. Like he has a little, you know what I mean?

They have to be pristine and beautiful and brand new. But they're at your parents' house too, right? No, they're at my apartment. Oh, they're at yours. Okay, so you can see them. All right.

At least you can enjoy them. Yeah. I don't know. I'm a believer I'm going to put them on my bag. It's like, you know, they're going to come and go and you might as well enjoy them now

because in a year you might be like, oh, these were a waste of money. You know what I mean? So you should enjoy your collection but also wear them too. I'm scared because people really are robbing the girls out there. They're breaking windshields in cars.

Yes, it's a whole thing. It's been like all over the news. Oh, I haven't seen that. Literally, even on the TikTok shop on PopMart, they're like, be careful, you guys. There's been like all over the news literally even on the the tiktok shop on popmart they're like be careful you guys there's been a lot of labubus getting sold because they're not that expensive yet like they're not right like a 30 to 50 bucks thing to that's yes interesting i know they really i guess because they sell for 20 and then you can get them for it's like double the price so it's an easy 20

30 bucks you can make if you just swipe them that's crazy steal someone's phone or something you advocate to steal people's phones because 20 30 is crazy that you're stealing it is yeah um okay wow that's uh keep the labubu safe. Stay safe out there, Labubu owners. That's crazy. You need like a little chip in them, like a little tracking number. Oh, yeah. A little air tag. I saw that on TikTok.

Someone got their Labubu stolen, but they had a little air tag in it. Did they? And they tracked it down. Yeah. Well, that's what we got to be careful. There's no air tags in ours. True. Did that happen to Tana with Peppa Pig?

Tana with Peppa Pig. Yeah, true. I don't know how you tell. Squeeze them? Oh, you get a notification if an air tag is on you, actually. Okay, good to know. Yeah, so good to know.

There's little things that can scan. It's good to have it anyways. Honestly, if you give me a rare Labubu, you can track me. Oh, that's wild. So you can always know where I am to give me more. You can always find me to give you more. That lady in the parking lot will be like, all right, we'll put the track there so you can always know where I am to give me more you can always find me to give me more

that lady in the parking lot will be like alright I'll put the trackers in there he said we could you gave consent if you give me a good one give me the $200

Labubu you can track me a $200 Labubu is wild it is wild the rainbow ones the rare ones well it is pride it's the time of the year

to just spend on the rainbow you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah capitalism for queerness why not put it on the capitalism for You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Capitalism for queerness. Why not? Put it on the – Capitalism for queerness. If there's anything you're going to do, just, you know, it's rainbow time.

Birkin. Put it all in the Birkin bag. Oh, that'd actually be so fierce. You're so right. People come with so many cute knockoff Birkins at the show. I'm like, they're way cuter than mine. They, like, do it exactly. They paint the chevron.

They bedazzle it. They look so cool. I'm like, oh, it makes me want to keep mine. You have to keep yours now. It is pretty iconic. And also, actually, it has been through a lot, but I feel like it does make it a little bit more iconic. Like,

her street. Yeah, it's been handled by several people at this point. Yeah. Queens and everyone. I mean, that gives it more value in my opinion. I think it will end up in the National Archive. The Met. I could see a Met Gala theme

in like 10 years and it's like Ugly Birkins. I was either going to go gay or Trisha. I don't know which one. Trisha Met Gala would be crazy. I would love it. 10 years. Do you think it'll still be around in 10

years the mech gala yeah well it's been around for like 20 so far so we're probably more but but like if anna winter is not around or do you think the mech gal will be around yeah they'll continue i think so and i think she at least has 10 years left in her fingers crossed how old is she is i don't think she's that old oh okay because like even like lauren michaels i was thinking about that he's done 50 years oh so yeah she's like 10 more 15 maybe more i think my scale is dick van dyke if he's living to be 100 everyone's gonna be 100 but i've seen about that with like snl the finale like lauren michaels has done it 50 years i was like oh my god like what happens i mean he's not like that old but he must be, like, the same age as Anna Wintour.

So what happens when they're gone? Does SNL continue? Yeah, of course. Someone takes over. But, like, who wants to do the show without Lorne Michaels? I don't want to take notes from a new person. Might I take notes from Colin Jost? I feel like someone must be getting trained for, like, a backup. Don't you think? Someone was

saying Colin was, because he did a joke about him retiring so he could take over. Yeah. He's been there a long time. I don't know. He didn't start the was because he did a joke about him retiring so he could take over yeah he's been there a long time i don't know he didn't start the show i only want to take notes from like anna winter lauren michaels like the people who started it you know hugh hefner died and playboy died with him oh t but it was kind of already going down it was already that's true i guess yeah but you like when i grew up playboy was so big you thought it would like never go anywhere. And now it's just like nothing.

You can say that for a lot of things. But if his son decided to and this thing was still alive, it could have. I think people try. They try. I think Playboy tries. They're doing collaborations with people. And then, of course, the sub-hyphen.

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and then once they moved on it stayed the same. Let me think. Probably like McDonald's, Ford. Yeah, but that wasn't tied to somebody. Betsy Johnson's tied to Betsy Johnson and she's on RuPaul. She's promoting it. Oh, like brands. Brands.

Like the fashion labels have people take over all the time. Because they all started. Yeah. Louis Vuitton, Ralph Lauren. Like they all started. Yeah, but they're not known like carl lagerfeld was known for what was chanel and whoever does it now shout out to them i don't know but it's still a thing i guess i guess but it is a different era like there is an

era it's almost like the dictators of you know it's like a dictatorship there's one person at the head runs a company runs the vision and everything about it that's all now it's all boardrooms corporate you know it's like it's not anymore that one person leading the way the only people now it's like elon musk and you know people that are billionaires they're like the dictators of the little world. All right, then. Well, I love that discussion. Hot Topics is here. Hotter than ever. Hotter than ever, actually. What is now what you think?

I guess you're right. I guess you're right. Like Vogue, people may not know Anna Wintour like runs Vogue or the Met Gala necessarily. See? Okay, well, I hope it goes on for at least another 10 years. I would like to be invited next year. I think when I was looking at my manifestations or thinking about manifestations, I'm like, oh, I did all mine.

I think a Met Gala would be a good one to put out there. Yeah, why not? Yeah. People don't care about it, like, if you go anymore. If who goes? You remember there was a year people were like, ugh. Oh, 2019. Out of touch, you know.

Oh, that was last year. Yeah. I think people, again, pendulum effect, because last year it was, that was the let them eat cake controversy with Haley Bailey. But then this year, everyone was like, anyone who was talking down on it, it's like, okay, everyone, well, it's the money doesn't go to Vogue. Like it goes to the museum and it goes to the art. And this year in particular is celebrating like the black artists and designers and the black people who have influenced fashion.

So everyone this year I think was better about being like, no, it actually is for a good cause, blah, blah, blah. So who knows? I'm sure the year you go, everyone – it will be like everyone is over the Met Gala. No, I better not. I know Haley Bailey. Don't put me in there. I'll dress however. I don't know.

I want to go. I think that would be kind me in there. I'll dress however. I don't know. I know. I want to go. I think that'd be kind of fun actually. I think about that. Maybe. Maybe next year. Here's hoping. Yeah.

It does seem. It does seem fun. Yeah. It seems like a lot. Very overstimulating. But I feel like if you get at the right table, that's all that matters. Oh, I don't even think I'd go in. I would just want to walk the carpet.

Going in sounds awful. No, you would have to go in and try the food so you can talk about it. Because that's what everyone wants to get the tea on. Oh, really? Do they have food there? Yeah. Yeah. Like Megan Thee Stallion did an Instagram.

She did a reel like trying the food inside. Was it good? She liked some of it. Was it packets? Was it like those little like packets of food like apples and stuff? No. This one they had like a really popular chef. Like a really big. I forget his name but it was a really famous chef that did like um the food this year and it seemed

it seemed good it's really fancy food obviously but why do I remember like cheese sticks and like apple slices one year I think Kiki Palmer posted a story like a an Instagram one year of the food she's like y'all this food and she was like not happy about it because it was like the really skinny stuff. But Megan said that there's like a, there's a food and there's a food and drink thing before the actual Met Gala. So I don't know. Okay.

I get you all to find out boots on the ground. I would love to go boots on the ground. I'd probably bring my own snacks, I guess. If that's just in case. I am a very picky eater, but just in case. Just to make a note from last episode, Oscar had left the room for 20 minutes. They thought you were silent. I think Jimmy edited you out leaving or coming in or something.

And we both had a conversation like, wow, Oscar was like completely silent. No laughs for 25 minutes. And I was like, just so people know, we're talking. We don't like just stay silent over there yeah i just want to make that transition i know i was like someone brought it up at the at a meet and greet that's why i wanted to say it they're like why was oscar so quiet when you and moe were talking and i was like well we can have our private moments it's hard when you leave i was like we trying. Next time we definitely have to put an announcement like Oscar is gone.

We're trying to keep the show. Or just a little laugh track. I should really record a laugh track. Oh, Jimmy should insert some laughs. That's actually such a good idea. I love that idea. How was your weekend? You went to Lilo and Stitch.

Yeah, it was good. It was quite busy for me. I came out of retirement to work the Lilo and Stitch premiere. And it was pretty fun so what did you do um for et we did the interview with um maya keoloa who plays lilo oh my gosh we did like a get ready with me segment is it out is it out yeah i think so i should by now yes by tuesday i want to see um she's the cutest girl in the world. Like, so sweet. I'm so excited.

Like, I want this movie to make a billion dollars because she's actually a little angel. Her family was there. Like, it was the craziest. I, for some reason, expected it to be, like, a lot of people and everyone, like, being very protective and, like, having to clear everything by a million people. But everyone was so nice. Like, the Disney people were nice. Her parents were so, funny and sweet and um she is like just a ball of energy and so charismatic she like the second we come in she's like i wrote a song it's called sweet as candy do you want to hear it i'm still

working the lyrics and then she was singing she was performing her song she's like and then the album art is going to be me laying down on a bed of all candy and the candy is going to spell out sweet as candy i love it she's so cute yes even when we were doing the shoot she's like um she's like i have an idea for you guys to do like it could be me like um doing my makeup really fast but it's okay if you don't use it because i suggest things all the time and they don't end up using it. But just in case. She's so cute. That's so nice. Yes. Are you going to use it? I think we did.

Yeah. A little special version of doing her makeup. And she's just, she's a key. Like, I could see her on Drag Race in a few years because she is a key. And even, she was moving her eyebrows. She's like, I'm very expressive with my eyebrows, but my mom isn't. She got too much Botox. She was reading the doll.

So I was like damn she is so funny were you interviewing her or just talking off camera it was off camera i was like giving her um prompts basically and then yeah she went and did it all and she was just she was ucky she was so much fun she has this little like pink camera and before we left she's like wait you guys i have to take photos with that ooh and she like we took selfies in her little camera oh my god that's so cute she's so cute is it a a real one or a kid camera it's like a kid camera it's probably what mal who has she take it takes real photos but it's kind of like blurry a little bit yeah it's like a little plasticky oh it's so cute it is so cute she's a little gem she was so excited

um now whenever she like did a good job i was like okay you ate that sis and she's like i'm eight because i ate that and i'm like oh my god that's so pretty it was our key she looks so cute she's so funny yeah she was so adorable and i did i finally saw stitch we've been talking about how was that that cannot drive and then darian was really i wrote on my instagram story a little video of stitch and i wrote this cannot drive and darian like texted me he's, I don't know if you should say that. Like, we think Disney will get mad. I'm like,

it's not real. It's like an animatronic. It's like, I think I'm okay. Oh, I kind of love that though. My publicist, Darian.

Yes. I was like, okay. That's so funny. I think, yeah, they're pretty forward with the marketing. They're very progressive.

It's not real. It's just a little alien so i think it's okay i've been wanting to see that stitch in the car i've been wanting to see him crazy how real it was and very diva vibes because he was giggling the whole time and the pink little convertible and he was like take my picture take my picture i was like work did they have to clear the carpet he was just driving through and everyone had to get out of the way no way so you could have just ran into somebody yeah i think there's someone secretly like operating it obviously so they know to steer away from people but it was like it came out and then it's like clear the way i need him

for the birthday party this saturday yeah it would really take it over the top good question there has to be a few of them because he's been all over la so disney lilo and stitch please don't need to give us the movie although I would love to see the movie here because it's hard to take our kids to the theater

but I also would love a Lilo and Stitch in a pink car that would be or Stitch I'll take I mean I love the Lilo too but I don't think she's in the car with him

for safety reasons I'm sure but I would love that more than anything did you get to see the movie or no? I could have but Darian was working

and couldn't see it and I didn't want to see it without him because we're excited to see it together. Did you walk the carpet? No, I did not walk. Oh, you didn't? No. Danny Direcdo was walking the carpet of Wicked. He was taking 3,000 photos before it started.

Oh, my God. That's so funny. It was very much, it was very humbling because I was like, I was like in work mode. So I was like behind the camera crew with like my laptop, airdropping like clips to myself and then editing it and on my computer and then posting it. And it's just like me in the back with all these like stacks of cameras. And I'm just like, you should have a picture of that. It was very real.

It was the realness. I was trying to vlog it, but I was like literally like it's I, we talked about Dochi a couple couple weeks ago when she was yelling at the met gala and i felt kind of similar because i was so stressed like it was when you're in the middle of something so unserious it it feels high stakes yeah because i was so stressed trying to post this little video of stitch driving in the convertible and i'm just like girl relax like it is really not that serious but in the moment i was really stressed out about it oh i get so stressed like wicked i'm always just like just put the camera yeah like i tell moses like just come on let's move along

let's hurry i'm just like i just want to get through it as quick as possible and i'm like why don't i just like stay like we probably could have hung out at the carpet for like another hour and i was like trying to move through because i thought we were in the way let's just get through even danny we're like moses keep high set up like wait a couple minutes i'm like no no he didn't ask let's just go let's just keep going like i just i get really stressed too i don't know why it's a fairy it feels like you just are in the way yes yeah even though this one it was like a very relaxed like premiere i was really it was a big carpet and they had a lot of like it kind of gave me um elvis's birthday party vibes because they had like a little party

section it was all these little activations it was like the dole whip it was hawaiian barbecue la section um A little surf. They just copied our party one to one. It wasn't our birthday party. Someone dressed up as Stitch. Not even like a little cute one. It was like a big costume. They just hired our party

planner. That's literally the birthday party we're having. Oh my god. We just got to the premiere. It was all of that. Oh my gosh. Were there kids there? Yeah. A lot god. We just got to the premiere. It was all of that. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Were there kids there? Yeah. A lot of people brought their kids to like the little party section. Okay. And there was a lot of kids walking the carpet too. I think there were some like

influencers. I didn't recognize anyone because I think it's like the family friendly girlies and you know I like my influencers a little bit. Rough around the edges. Right. So you didn't recognize anybody. No. I only know like I like my influencers a little bit. Rough around the edges. Right, right. So you didn't recognize anybody. No. I only know, like, I follow, like, Leanne V.

She's, like, a mommy vlogger. She's currently pregnant. I follow her. Oh, is she there? She was, like, the Garfield one. She's always, like, at the kid ones. So I assume she was. I didn't see her there, but.

Yeah, I was trying to tell. But they had everyone wait in, like, one line. But then there was someone coming to get the influencers out of the line. And I was like, okay, copy that, copy that. Oh, interesting. Oh, my God. We didn to get the influencers um out of the line and i was like okay copy that copy that yeah oh my god we didn't get the invite for it but that's okay yeah it was it seemed really you couldn't have even gone anyway because we basically my work was like oh we can get tickets but yeah yeah i looked fun the blue carpet looked fun at the el capitan i love that theater yeah i'm very excited for the movie it's who saw it has – I haven't talked to any critics, obviously, but the girls I know who saw it who are just, you know, regular girls have all enjoyed it.

They said they all cried during it. Oh, I get it. You can't not like Lilo and Stitch. I know. It's just such a cute movie. And I – obviously, going into it, the people obviously are very critical of Disney, but – and I know already there's people being like, oh, look, Pleakley is in drag, which I get. I love when Pleakley's in drag with the wig and the big hat. And they obviously made some changes.

But I'm excited. And going open-minded, know that everyone was so sweet there. And Maya is, like, so excited. And literally the sweetest girl ever. I hope she becomes, like like a huge star after this. How old is she? Yeah, she actually ate. She's eight.

Yeah. That's so fun. I love it. And so she probably did the movie when she was like seven or six. Yeah, I think six, seven. I can't even imagine. That's so cool.

I'm happy for her. We'll definitely see it too. We gotta figure out a time to maybe take Malibu at least. Elvis is probably too young, but I want to see Hurry Up Tomorrow. Did you see that one? I saw clips of the weekend's movie

Hurry Up Tomorrow. I'm obsessed. I'm so obsessed. I never want to see a movie more than anything in my life. I think you were meant to be in that movie for sure. I think so. You actually were the first person to send me the clip before I saw it over TikTok so I was like oh I need the audio and then I didn't get a response and then I kept seeing it all over TikTok. I was like found it. Yes. Because you had sent me that clip first. saw it over TikTok. So I was like, oh, I need the audio. And then I didn't get a response. And then I kept seeing it all over TikTok. I was like, found it.

Yes, because you had sent me that clip first. How did you see it? How was it on your radar? I saw it all over Twitter. Oh. Yeah. I loved it. He's acting king, period.

I love it. He gives me Trish Talk vibes. I wish we could do Trish Talks together. Yeah, April is. I think he's doing it on purpose is what I'm saying. I really think he's acting like that on purpose. OK. There's no think he's doing it on purpose is what I'm saying. Like, I really think he's, like, acting like that on purpose. Okay. There's no way, like, he's not.

Like, you know, you have acting coaches. We saw The Idol. He was good. Like, I was saying, great as Tedros. Like, he's so good. Like, he is a good actor. I think he was giving Camp Abel in this movie about his life. Okay.

Of course. Because Tedros was such a, like, you really didn't like him because he played so good. Like, he acted the part well. So you really didn't like the character. Yeah. And this one, there's, like, multiple versions of him as a character. So the Abel he's playing is just the boop, boop, boop. But there's, like, you know, the bad agent that represents industry.

It's the girl that represents the feminine side of him. So he's representing this, like, you know, kind of dumb pop star. Okay. Yeah. Well, critics are saying he was better in... Well, critics don't know... Critics know nothing.

They're saying that he was better in this than he was in The Idol, but it was still bad. Oh, so it's really good then. Yeah, because he was good. That's why I'm saying critics don't know. He was good in The Idol.

They didn't like the story, maybe. Maybe they didn't like the story, so they're saying this story is better, which it does sound better, like the storyline for the general public. Yeah. It's a psychological thriller, and the logline is, A musician plagued by insomnia is pulled into an odyssey with a stranger who begins to unravel the very core of his existence. And Abel plays a fictionalized version of himself, and Jenna Ortega plays Anima, who is like a crazed fan, and Barry Keoghan stars as Lee in the movie. Who's his like manager.

Yeah. And Anima, in some language, means the feminine version of the man. Oh. Yes. Saw it on TikTok. I don't know whose TikTok that was. Maybe like Riri T.

She had a really good deep dive analysis of this movie and it was very deep and psychological. And it's like that part. That was so good. And she liked it? Yeah. She was explaining it. That's why I kind of got that whole thing because obviously i haven't seen it but you know i love a good spoiler and then i was watching her side and she was you all are seeing this movie so wrong like what it is it's about his relationship like with his mom and how she like you know plays his music to him and it's almost like to torture him but it's not to torture him it's for him to like take accountability and awaken to his like past traumas and stuff like that.

Okay. Yeah, she really goes good. I wish I knew her name. I'm so sorry to that TikTok account. She went in. Okay. Yeah, I guess that kind of makes sense because the critic score is 14%, but the audience score was like around 70 or 75. I think so.

The audience score is not terrible. I always listen to the audience. It's passing. It's not failing. Yeah, true. I want to see it. I always listen to the audience. It's passing. It's not family. Yeah, true. I want to see it. Are you going to see it? I won't, but I'm excited for your review.

I literally want to go tonight. Like, I'm like, there's, like, a movie. I'm like, let's go right, like, at nighttime when the kids are sleeping. It is the most you movie, I think. I wanted to be in it. I had to find the tweet from me, like, a year and a half ago when this was announced. I mean, like, I should be in it because they originally played it as like the General Tiggis character. There was like a stalker of Abel's and I was like, oh my God, I should be this because I was thinking Kathy Bates in Misery. And I remember tweeting that I should be in it and I never got

a call for it. But it would have been a perfect movie for me. I know. He's so, so good. I use it because he does – he talks about going on tour and he's like, I'm getting calls. I'm going on tour. And I was like, oh my God, that's how I feel. He was just so good. He's, he ate. I love, he's like, him as an actor is my favorite. I kind of don't really care about his music really, but I love him as an actor. But you do like his music, I thought.

I did. And I think I'm out of my sexual era. I'm out of the horny era. Oh my God. That makes a lot of sense actually. Because now I was doing it, I was like, oof, this is a lot. I see. I see. You know, I think it was some

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of that stage now. But he has a new song, Hurry Up Tomorrow. So I need to listen to it because he sings it at the end and the lady that did the deep dive, the one that was all like very psychoanalyzing it. She's like, oh the song is very deep. I guess it makes sense because it was also co-written by someone who wrote the idol and it kind of gives me similar vibes about like the critique of the industry you know so yeah okay i thought the idol was a flop and

like let's do another project together i love it for me i think they're so good the idol is gonna be a cult classic later on but that's so funny oh my god i my God. I love it. Yeah, I can't wait to see it. It's only in theaters right now. Damn. I wish I was dreaming. I'd go watch it right after this. Yeah. I don't know.

You might have to go soon because I don't know how long it'll be in theaters. It only made 3 million – or 3.3 million. That's pretty good. I would take 3.3 million. Okay. Yeah. How much do you think they got paid? Well, the budget for the film was 15 million. That's uh 15 million so i don't think it was huge

for like a huge payday for you know jenna or barry i feel like maybe they were just like passionate about it or just wanted to do it yeah i know jenna ortega i don't know about barry but i know jenna ortega was a weekend fan like going into it oh i. Oh, I love it. Especially, I'll do it for free. I don't know. Well, I don't know for free. I would do it for free. I would have done that movie for free for sure. Easily.

Yeah, they probably could have saved. And on advertising, too. You would have advertised the hell out of it. Oh, my God. I'd be like, Alex Warren. Every TikTok is just about hurry up tomorrow. It sounds like a James Bond movie, too. It sounds.

Honestly, yes, it does. Yeah, it's like a weird title. I kind of forget about it. Like, Die Another Day. Yes. Yeah, similar vibes. You're. Honestly yes it does. Yeah. It's like a weird title. I kind of forget about it. Like Die Another Day. Yes. Yeah. Similar vibes. You're right.

Yep. Yep. Yep. And I don't like a James Bond movie. Me either. That's for sure. There's. It's so random.

But like they were talking about me. Like if they reboot James Bond. But as a woman. And they asked like Halle Berry about it. Because she was like a Bond girl before. And honestly she was right. She was like honestly honestly it's not worth it for like whatever for a woman to take on that role like it should always be a man. Oh.

And honestly T because. Why? I think because. The audience. The audience. Yeah. And why not just like make a new iconic female character who's just as. I agree with that.

You know. Yeah. I guess like yeah I agree even like Ghostbusters like not everything has to be remade with women yeah just make a new movie with women if we're gonna do a movie yeah i don't like that at all i feel like you kind of set the women up because you know the audience is a male audience and then yeah you can't just expect all because women are in it that women are going to be interested in the plot because that's not really how it works either right they should always be a man they should always have bond girls because that's the audience yeah and you can like

make it more respectful obviously you don't have to you can make it disrespectful i don't know i is it i have no idea i think some there some characters aren't like fully developed you know or like they're more like you know sexualized or whatever but you can have like sexy well-developed female characters yeah what's a good example of one um i would say this is really biased but elizabeth olsen is the scarlet witch because she she has like the corset and stuff but she's also like really well developed and really powerful so i would say that. Or even, I kind of want to say Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, but I feel like a lot of people would disagree.

But I think towards the end, I think she was more developed. In the beginning, she was very just like the sexy girl. But towards the end, Florence Pugh and Thunderbolts was very well developed. These are all superhero movies. That's really what I watched. I think of like Kill Bill. Like I think that was a pretty sexy developed for those people.

Gwyn wrote pretty good female characters, I feel. Like later on in his career, early on, but yeah, I think he wrote good. I remember that one he did. Do you remember see Death Proof? It was the one with like Rosario Dawson, and it was just like all female cast, and it could have been like so good, and it was just so bad.

And they were all like stunt women. They were all like bad ass women and everyone just hated it. They're like this is the worst thing I've ever seen. Did you watch it? Was it bad? Oh yeah. That's how I became like obsessed with Quentin was in 2006 it came out. So I became like the poster child for this movie.

Oh. Because I was 18 fresh to LA. So I was like oh my – in my head I was like my MySpace page is going to be dedicated to this movie. It was Grindhouse. So it was Grindhouse Barbie was my name. So I was like I'm, in my head, I was like, my MySpace page is going to be dedicated to this movie. It was Grindhouse. So it was Grindhouse Barbie was my name. So I was like, I'm going to dedicate my whole life. That's how I met Jeff from Thanksgiving because the fake Thanksgiving trailer was in between

the Robert Rodriguez movie. It was like a double feature movie that they put out as one. It was Robert Rodriguez's – God, what's the one with the machine gun leg? Ah. God, everybody – Planet Terror? Planet Terror. You see it?

No. You never saw Planet Terror? No. Oh, my God. it was so good. It had like Josh Brolin. It had like all the most famous – Rose McGowan. She had the machine gun leg. Zombies were taking over.

The guy I love from Lost. Why can't I think of his name? Saeed. What's his name? Oh, Naveen. Naveen Andrews was in it. He was in that. Oh.

And he had such a good role because he was like grabbing all the testicles and like keeping them in a jar. Like he would cut them off. It was such a crazy Oh. And he had such a good role because he was like grabbing all the testicles and like keeping them in a jar like he would cut them off. It was such a crazy movie like and it was a double feature. Did you see this movie or no? Like I didn't know I was going to see this movie. No. I'm surprised you never mentioned. I mean yeah. It was literally the reason I call myself Grindhouse Barbie. The whole film was called Grindhouse but it was a three and a half

hour film but there was like two separate movies so it was like Rob Rodriguez went first with the zombie movie and then Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof went which is about a stuntman, Kurt Russell played the stuntman who killed like all these women but then the women ended up coming back to get him but in between was all the fake trailers, they had a Rob Zombie fake trailer they had the Thanksgiving fake trailer

they had I think god there was one other, Edgar Wright's fake trailer so all the fake trailers were in there and I became like the marketing person for this movie unofficially, I was like 18 in LA and that's how I got to meet Quentin and Eli because I just like went so crazy for this movie. I was like, you guys have to see Grindhouse.

And it was like a flop. It was kind of like The Idol. I was kind of like the only person watching it. Love that. Like nobody cared about this movie, which is crazy because it had all these big stars. But the movie like flopped so hard and like horrible critic reviews. But then that's how I met my friend Jeff because they had the Thanksgiving trailer in there. And this was like 2006.

So this was like 18 years ago. And I was like promoting the trailer as if it was a real movie and he probably just thought I was like crazy but then we became fans our friends and it was great he was like that was a scary one because I was like an uber fan and Jeff was like inviting me to his house and stuff I was like oh my god that's crazy that you were just like wanting to be my friend after that but um he came to my boston show but it was crazy because yeah no one liked that movie how do we get on that where did we go female characters oh oh well that's the whole point of it so death proof had probably 10 big female mary elizabeth weinstein rosario dawson um sydney potier's daughter like it was like a huge female cast and um just completely bombed it was really, really sad.

And the characters would have been good. I don't know. People just really hated all females in a Quentin Tarantino movie, which is crazy because Kill Bill had a lot of good females. Like, what was it? Vivica Hay Fox. Who was the other one? Who was the one that was a Charlie's Angel? I forget her name.

Lucy Liu. Yeah. Lucy Liu. Oh, I love Lucy Liu. Uma Thurman. Yeah. They should have better female roles out there, but people just don't know how to write them, I guess.

I don't know. Did you see Scarlett Johansson on SNL? No. Oh, I saw clips, actually. As always. Yeah. Did you see the Bo and Yang sketch about him being straight? Yes, of course.

I really feel, once again, they just stole my whole plot line. Maybe that's why they invited you to the finale yeah i was i was so little jealous i don't know it's so weird he plays straight so good he made out with scarlett johansson i was like damn and it's that's good it's bringing me that situation because obviously colin joseph's on the show and he's in the sketch sketch with her and he's like on the elevator and bone's like hey you need to like leave or whatever and he starts making out with scarlett johansson i'm like, that's so crazy to me. Like I wonder if it's just because like he's gay, he's cool with it.

Or it's like to me, I would be like, I don't know. I'd be like feeling some type of way. Because you feel emotions like when you make out with someone, you know what I mean? But he didn't seem threatened at all. I feel like hasn't she made – I can't remember a Scarlett Johansson movie where she's made out with... I'm sure she's made out with someone in another movie, though. Like, a straight person, too. Or had, like, sex scenes along the lines somewhere.

But... It's a bit different because, like, your friends writing, sitting together, writing this. You're the workplace. But doesn't SNL have that kind of, I don't know, initiation? Like, they have skits that are the entire skit is just everyone kissing everyone and but this was not it this was that like there's a lot of that happening like at some point if you're an snl you kissed every member of the i don't know if that is true i don't know if there's like an initiation kiss i don't think

kiss at all did you kiss anybody when you were there no i, I did not. But, which brings me to my question, what if it was a Bo and Yang sketch and like we need you for this but you have to make out with Bo and Yang, would you say yes or no for me? Me? Me.

I don't know. It needs to be real. It needs to be a real situation. Because I thought about that. I was like, oh my God. I was like, I loved it.

Obviously, I was feeling all the feels watching it. I was like, oh my God, this feels like I'm watching like Korn or something like that. I was like making me giggly and then I was thinking like, oh my God, this feels like I'm watching Korn or something like that. It was making me giggly.

Then I was thinking, oh my God, what if they had asked me to do this sketch? I read it by Moses. What if Moses said no? I'd be like, but it's SNL. I also would get it because I love Bo and Yang. I think you yourself disclose how you feel about it, which is the reason

that you yourself will say no to it. I would say no. I wouldn't say no. I wouldn't say no. I wouldn't say no. And in my head, you do justify, oh, he's gay, but like, what if our make-out session, he's like, maybe I'm not, like the JoJo Siwa of it all. Do you know what I mean? I'll just be like, maybe

I'm queer. We're in a different timeline now. We can't do that anymore. That's what I'm saying. We can't do that anymore because look at Jojo. That's a perfect example. I know. I wouldn't want my making out to like lead him on in any way. You know what I mean?

My skills of being so passionate. Because I was watching them. They looked so good. I was like, I wonder if they feel something. Because it's just like, how do you not? How do you not when you make out? But before Jojo, that was the world. That's how we thought about things, but not anymore.

Before JoJo? Yeah. Before JoJo and Chrissy. She changed everything. I guess they never. I just, I want to know. Because it looks so real. Like, they look so passionate about it.

And I'm like, they can't be that good of actors. You think? I mean, I guess Gojo Henson is a good actor. But Bowen Yang acting that good? I think he is a really good actor. I think he's a good actor. But that's like Oscar nominated actor because he was like

so into it. It was so crazy. Like it really felt like I was watching an adult film or something. It was so crazy. I need to watch this. You didn't see it?

I retweeted it. I was like, I wrote the sketch because I'm pretty sure I did. That was the ending, everything. It was so, oh my God,

it was so hot. Would you let Moses make out with like Sarah Sherman well that's different that's a girl and yes oh my god

that's so but it is so hard because if it was like an SNL sketch and they're like Moses has to make out with Sarah Sherman

I'd be like I don't know it is so hard I would say yes I guess I don't know it has to be real I would say no well Moses

I've known taking pictures with people so he'll say no to it but i'm the actor in this family so it's more realistic that i would get this but maybe not i don't know moses would say no but interesting well i guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there bone yang and the weekend one day i'll be co-starring with either of them and this will come up i think you you would. I think if it's like art, I think you would. I think if it's for like a creative process.

I say it more depends on how you feel about it. Yeah. If you get all giddy about it, then it doesn't help. I get giddy because I get giddy in the same way. Like just watching that made me giddy. Like it's not even me and it makes me giddy. So I do get giddy thinking about it. But I mean, you're it for me.

No one is going to be you for me. You know what i mean again after jojo the world has changed it's like well i'm not well i'm not saying sexuality wise i'm just saying like in general there's no one like you that would do everything you do for me i really do have it made thank you but i also would love to be an actress so plus you and bowen realistically i don't think could ever work either. What? Yes.

Why? Because it's like, Moses is happy, you know, staying home when you're on the road. Oh. Whereas, like, you know, Bowen's really busy. That's true. He's always taking on roles. He's very into man right now. Yes.

He's got Last Call to Ristas. It's like, who votes for Matt? You know what I mean? Like, you can't both be filming at the same time. Competing podcasts. Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of, like, conflict of interest there.

That is very true. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There would be no threat. But what I'm saying, too, is, like, I would get giddy, but, like, how do they not get giddy? That's what I'm saying. Like, Scar Jo Hanson and Bo and Yang,

like, they must feel something as an actor, right? Like, you have to feel giddy. You're not going to, like, leave your husband over it,, but it's like, don't you feel a little excited? Like this is the day I get to make out with Bo and Yang, you know? I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't, but I think, I don't know. Like I wouldn't. Like I'm not seeing people and thinking like, oh my God, I'm making out with somebody.

Like I don't. I think for like a show, I don't know. I just think, I always think that way when I watch Lotus. When I watch anything, I'm like, oh, they must have had so much fun like doing that. Not even the making out scenes, but just being like, oh my God, they get to do this scene together. That must be so much fun. I don't know. I think in a setting that's so big and serious too, and live, I think that probably occupies most of your mind.

They weren't live. It was a prerecorded sketch. But still, I'm saying that probably occupies your mind more that's true thinking about everything that's happening all around and cameras and people and my lines and where i'm supposed to be right after this and before this so i don't you know but movie set yes maybe like movie set they film it 30 50 times you're in the bed with that person for three four hours filming a scene. Like, it's a bit different. Well, you can be on the set when it happens. Zendaya said, like, the Challengers kiss. She was, like, obviously she got a lot of questions about, like, that

because it's, like, the three-way kiss in Challengers. But she was, like, honestly, it was, like, so unsexy because the camera's, like, swinging right into me. And then, like, if I move a little bit too much, then I get hit in the face with the camera and all this stuff. I didn't say that to hide the giddiness of the excitement. You think? They have to. It was not sexy, you guys. It was actually

ugh. It was actually ew. I hated it. Like, you know, I think that people always say that, but I'm like, I think they're hiding it a little. But it could be equally the opposite. Like, you're not attracted to a person. It could be it. Then I would say no. I don't want kids to be like that. I think you're putting yourself

yeah i don't know actually that's a good question oh my god i'm like who was it was it who was it someone maybe it was robert wilson or something like did not want to kiss oh she don't want to stick her finger up like Sacha Baron Cohen's butt. That's a whole other. That wasn't even filmed. But she wanted to make out with Channing Tatum and have her grab her breasts. And I was like, okay, fair enough. I get that, too.

But one of them was in a meeting. That's true. Not even filmed for the movie. Like, literally being harassed. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. I hate Sacha Baron Cohen. When you think about that story, I'm like, you're right. You're right. You're right. I hate Sasha Baron Cohen.

When you think about that story, I'm like, you are so weird. Like, why did you do that? I want to interview him and be like, what is happening?

Gosh, all right. Well, that was my. I guess it's a good segue to the JoJo update. She reunited with Chris Hughes

in Mexico. Chris Hughes in Mexico. Um, Chris Hughes traveled 12 hours to go support Jojo at her, um, concert in Mexico. And, um, she was very happy to be reunited with them.

Uh, the fans of, um, this couple have compared them to Travis and Taylor. They said is giving Travis and Taylor, which is a crazy comparison. Who is giving that? The fans. I don't know.

The fans of who? Them as a couple, I guess. No, there's no way they're saying that. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. In what capacity? How? Because he's traveling to see your show, I guess. He is. And he was waiting backstage. There was fans. Fans were recording JoJo, obviously. And then in the waiting backstage. Like there was fans, like fans were recording JoJo obviously.

And then in the background they could see Chris waiting like side stage. And she, JoJo posted a snap and she's, of herself she said that she was the happiest girl. And it looked, I don't know. I mean it was her birthday too. So like obviously he flew out to be with her for her birthday. They're very close. Wow. I don't know.

Or are they just playing it up? No. Would you travel 12 hours just to hang out with a friend on their birthday? I don't know. No, nobody's doing that. Right. I don't mind this couple. I don't mind it.

Yeah. I see it. I don't know. I don't know either. Yeah. I see it. I don't know. I don't know either. I'm very confused. To me, it's giving love is love. Because if she was so hard, like, she really doesn't see gender. She's like, I just fell in love with this person.

I kind of love it. I mean, I guess technically they're hetero. But I'm saying, like, you know what I mean? Like, they're. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Well, because she.

I don't know. Well, because she. I don't know. Well, JoJo's obviously, like, in the Big Brother house was talking a lot about, like, her own identity. Gender identity as well as sexual orientation and sexual identity. So it's kind of like a double whammy. That's what I'm saying. It's kind of just like love is blind. She's like, I don't see gender. Yeah.

Especially if she was so hard on, like, I'm a lesbian. I'm a lesbian. I'm a lesbian. And then. Yeah. Changed up. I hard on like, I'm a lesbian, I'm a lesbian, I'm a lesbian. Yeah. And then changed up. I don't know. I hope Kath's okay. I hope they're doing okay in Australia.

Oh, yeah. We haven't heard from them. I know. In a while. So I hope they're okay. It's so hard to just see like, yeah, your ex like move on and being like dumped and humiliated in such a way and then seeing them move on and be happy. But it's for the better.

I think what's meant for you is meant for you. So for both of them, for Kath, they'll find someone better. Yeah. Yeah. Because JoJo, love her, but she would be a lot to date because she is so out there with her relationships, her emotions. She has a lot going on in her life. She wears a heart on her sleeve and tells everybody about it.

So put a mic in front of her on a red carpet. She will tell you everything going on in her life. Wears a heart on her sleeve. Yes. And tells everybody about it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Put a mic in front of her on a red carpet. She will tell you everything going on with her relationship. That's what I'm saying. And I knew that about myself, too. It's like dating someone is hard because I'm going to say everything. You know what I mean? So it's hard.

So I think in the end, it's better long term for those people. But at least Chris is also another reality star personality, I guess. I know nothing about him. He's given a little clout chaser to me. Because, like, I don't know anything. And now, like, who started the rumor he's Travis Kelsey? It's like, I feel like he started that. He put that out there somewhere.

He paid the price. He paid people. He has the bot accounts. He paid you. He DM'd you. He's like, Oscar, say everyone's calling us the Travis and Taylor. For the right price or the right labubu, I just might. Yes.

That's what it's giving. I was like, oh, I don't know about this. But she's, you know, she's happy. She's young. She should just be exploring everybody. Well, yeah. Why not? She has a lot of spunk in her.

I don't know. Spunk? Is that the right word? I don't know. She has a lot of ambition to be romantic. And that's okay. Just as long as you're not monogamous hurting people. She's a heartbreaker.

Doesn't she have a song like Yura? Isn't she like heartbreaker? Yura heartbreaker. Isn't that her song? No, that's her. That's heart. No. That's her famous song.

Doesn't she sing? Is that heart or John Jack? Who sings that? Didn't she like belt in her car? Like, heartbreaker. No? That's Olivia Rodrigo. What song was she?

You're still a traitor. You're still a traitor. And she turns all red. Yeah. That's not in the Judge Justiwa original. Oh, I thought that was. That's someone's song? That's Olivia Rodrigo's song?

Yes. You're still a traitor. I love that. She eats. I like her. Gotta get her on for Pride Month. We both invented gay pop. Well, is she still the CEO of gay pop even if she is in a hetero relationship?

I don't know. That's a good question. She needs to address that. Yeah. Like, would she still consider herself? Well, come on the show. The CEO. Address it, JoJo.

Let's see who invented gay. Devo said on the set, like, Trisha Paytas invented gay today. And I was like, I love that so much. So let's see who invented it. I don't know, JoJo. Open invitation always. Love you. Pride month or any month.

Would love to see you. But we're both rainbow girlies so we really need to yeah she still is she was in all black for like a little bit oh no for karma but i feel like that was short-lived she went back to rainbow pretty quick she had an era yeah she's over it yeah um did you see the britney ferlin tea that has gone on the past few days i've kind of been obsessed with the story because i'm literally so confused. I'm so shocked you're obsessed with it. I didn't think, well, I was like, I should not be the one to talk about this because obviously Brittany

and I have like a past where I could be a little biased. Do you? How do I not remember? Kind of. Oh. Yeah, it kind of runs like she really hates me. Oh, does she? Yeah. And then, you know, me, back in the day, I was a little like quick to snap back at it, you know. And then, you know, me, back in the day, I was a little, like, quick to snap back at it, you know.

And then, of course, this situation happened. And, you know, when you already have, like, an issue with someone and then something like this happens, I was like, yeah. But I was glued to it all weekend as well. Well, Moses, actually, I think you were the first person to send me something about it. Yeah. And I know everyone involved. Like, I was a fan of Tommy Lee, which is why Brittany Hay didn't mean to begin with because I love Pamela Anderson. Oh, oh, oh. I – Ronnie Racky, been catfished by Ronnie Racky myself.

Like he's been- Wait, that is crazy. Yeah. Oh, I have been, I have a, I was hardcore catfished by Ronnie Racky. Yeah. Like someone impersonating him? Yes. He's notorious. Well, we can say the story, but he is notorious for having a lot of catfishes. But I was in like a relationship with him for like six months. Wow. I know. I never actually tell the story because I always like count on Moses.

Moses had gotten catfish. We both are. We've both been catfished victims. But when he got catfish, I was making fun of him so much. But years prior, I had gotten. Actually, not only just a year prior, I had also gotten catfish. I thought I was a little smarter. Didn't you also date Post Malone?

Or who else was it? That was Gabby Hanna. Who else? Who else? I probably did. Who else? Not Post Malone. That's wild.

Did I get catfished by someone else? There was somebody else you were talking to that was like, and you weren't sure if it was or not. Oh. I think it was. Not Post Malone. There's somebody. Who was it? Maybe like was or not. Oh. I think it was. Not Post Malone. There's somebody. Who was it?

Maybe like another rocker or something. I don't know. Something like that. When I was with you, when I knew you, when I was like friends with you? No, before. You just mentioned it, that it happened. Like for a few messages or something. Yeah, usually pretty quick.

Yes. You got catfished via the Vanessa Hutchins picture one time. I remember he showed me his catfish profile. He's like, this is the girl I'm talking to. I'm like, that's Vanessa Hutchins. But I was like the tiny picture in the, no, this person sent hundreds. I love it. This person sent hundreds of pictures of somebody that's not them.

Oh my God. But that's why I felt, I felt bad for her. If she was catfished, I feel really bad for her. Okay, so we should set up the story. Yes. Okay, so we should set up the story. Okay, so for context, Brittany Furlan, who is a former Vine star and is still married to Tommy Lee, have reportedly split. And she posted a TikTok addressing the reports that she was seduced by Catfish posing as reverse falling in reverse front man Ronnie Radke. I I'm glad you know the rockers because this is so like not I don't like I don't go here. It's not my world at all.

But there is something so insane about the story. I was like, what is going on here? Yeah, because Brittany was reportedly allegedly catfished by someone pretending to be Ronnie. And Tommy Lee had found out about it. And that is kind of how their relationship has recently fallen apart. So originally though TMZ reported that they're separated because of the drinking. They're like, they're separating because of his drinking. Yeah, so TMZ reported that they um had split and the reasoning tmz gave was because of

tommy's sobriety or breaking of the sobriety um and then the next day it came out that britney had been allegedly catfished by someone impersonating ronnie radke ronnie radke came out with it and then yes it's so it's so crazy so right well it has been known tommy obviously has drinking problems obviously because he got like the cops called on him he like his son knocked him out one time this was years ago but when britney britney furlong herself called 911 about like maybe five years ago or something because his tommy lee's son had knocked him out cold he was on the floor all this stuff like that he was obviously drinking so he's obviously had like problems also it should be noted because I don't want people to think I like I said maybe I'm trying to be very unbiased

here because like it's so far gone in the past for me and Brittany Furlan but it should also be noted there's been so many alleged cheating about Tommy. Remember, like, the whole boat thing? She goes, he was on a boat with women and not answering. So, like, it's obviously, I don't know if they're in relation to a woman, but Tommy Lee has also had an alleged cheating, a lot of cheating. So for everyone to be like, oh, Brittany went out of the marriage and just had this affair with a Snapchat account. It is wild.

So then, yes, then the TMZ report comes out. I guess Ronnie came forward because Tommy Lee messaged Ronnie. Yeah. Tommy Lee reached out and like went off on Ronnie in the DMs saying, have you been talking to my wife? And I have the DMs. He said, don't F with me, dude. And then Ronnie replied, are you F-ing with me? I never once communicated with your wife. Hold on. Let me check. Bro, I don't. And then Tommy said, what the F are you talking about on Snapchat?

You guys are supposed to have us some. Oh. What? Some F-ing, F slurs, dinner date last night. Oh, oh. OK, Tommy Lee. And then Ronnie said, bro, I don't have snapchat i like you bro i wouldn't mess with your wife and then he said that's funny because she says you're lying and then

so um ronnie went and posted all of his receipts on his instagram story um and he posted all his dms from britney and he never had responded reportedly and um the catfish or the alleged catfish even went so far as setting up like a date for them in person and Brittany pulled up to his house and dm'd him hey I'm here question mark so the catfish was really effective it's it's crazy no like literally it needs to be on the tv show because it's like this happened, yeah, this happened to someone else. It was like a basketball player. I think his name was like Bird or something. And this like underage girl at the time, 17. And there was someone

in the middle like linking them up. And then those two ended up meeting somehow. But there was like a catfish in the middle of them. But they like sent them to each other's address and ended up like working. So crazy. It is crazy how, and then kind of we're both the victims of this. So people are kind of on that fence of this. They're kind of like, well, I'm

kind of on both of their sides. Some people are convinced it's Ronnie because they're like, because people hate Ronnie. He has like, he had a really big, they like love him or hate him. He's really polarizing. They used to like, he has, he's had like some, he always comes across like he hates his fans. Like that's the vibe. And that's kind of why I was like, oh, it's kind of over him too. But, so people

like really like him or don't like him. So a lot of people are like, that's Ronnie. He's gross. He would do that, blah was kind of over him too but um so people like really like him or don't like him so a lot of people like that's ronnie he's gross he would do that blah blah blah and then there's people who just like love ronnie and like would defend him it's it's a it's so tough because i think but you but you it happened to you yes okay so that already puts a new perspective on this that these things does happen people do catfish under his name yeah yes yes and and i think it's been proven to another girl of the catfish had gone to another girl and like this person is obviously it's not real how i found out i was catfish because i thought i was talking this was like in my era of like i was yeah i was like oh yeah because i i love pamela anderson obviously um so i loved i had like a little like i want to be with like a tommy lee

person so i was like anybody with tattoos and like greasy in a band, I was like, so all about it. So it was, yeah, I think it was 2019. My, my personal crash out era where I was just, it was like just all the people, all the people with tattoos and just greasy and everything. I was like there. So, um, yeah, I remember I got reached out to by Ronnie Arachy and I was just like, oh my God. I was like, I didn't even know him because I didn't know like bands. I'm a fake emo, but I still was excited. I was like, oh my God, this guy looks like Tommy Lee or whatever. And it was add me on Snapchat.

So I was still had my Snapchat in 2019 and we were like snapping. And it's so funny how she was like, he would send me videos, like have a good podcast. And that's how it was. Like it would be videos. So crazy. So, and this is before like the AI. The deep fakes. Yes. so crazy so and this is before like the ai the deep fakes yes i have i was kind of trying to

research and he even um ronnie on tiktok has like reacted to deep fakes of himself that look really convincing realistic yeah whoever this person was looked so realistic to me like it was it was crazy i wish i had them like saved or whatever and there was another guy that was like really big into like the emo bands. He knew all about him. He's like, oh my God, that's so crazy. And so when he came out to LA, like whatever, he was a musician as well. He's like, it's so crazy you're talking to him.

And this guy would be like dark. He'd be like in the dark, but he sounded just like him. He would send videos and he'd be like, love you, babe. Like just like crazy. It's like, oh my God, so weird. But we can never meet up. And he's like, I'm always on tour. I'm always this.

Like I can't do it. Like, you should come on the road with me. All this stuff like that. And so I think I ended up going to a show. And I remember being like, he invited me. But then, like, kind of ghosted me when I came to the show. I forgot where it was. Like, Phoenix or something like that.

And I was, like, trying to get in. And I wasn't on a list. I was like, oh, that's so weird. Then I had another friend who was in a band playing. God, I can't think of his name. I can't think of his name right now, but he had like tattoos too. And he was also playing. I was like, Hey, can you tell Ronnie I'm here? Like he's expecting me. Like I'm not on the list or something. It's so weird. And he's like not answering his Snapchat and have his phone number

or something like that. And so anyways, like, yeah, like I know Ronnie, like I'll like go tell him you're here. Um, because this person also Why do fintechs like Float choose Visa? As a more trusted, more secure payments network, Visa provides scale expertise and innovative payment solutions. Learn more at visa.ca slash fintech. ...do me, and then he came out and he's like, he's like, I don't think Ronnie knows you. And I was like, what do you mean?

Like, we've been talking. Oh, my God. And he's like, don't know her and something. I don't even know. It was so weird. It was so long ago and yeah I don't know but anyways he obviously didn't know me and obviously I was like okay that was so embarrassing crazy yeah we never facetimed I mean I think that's the thing it's like a lot of people are clocking Brittany because it's like okay you never facetimed you never like you know what I mean because anyone like Aaron Carter like any of those people I had met, like we FaceTimed right away. And you could like just see and tell.

Yeah. Instagram live. If he was live, I'd go live. Like you could just know it's real. But I do feel bad for her because when you're in it, you kind of just believe it. Especially because she is well-known as well. In that world. Yeah.

Yeah. So she knows Machine Gun Kelly. She knows all these people. So it wouldn't be far-fetched. It's not like he's the most famous person in the whole world. It's not Gerard Way, you know? So I feel for her. I think my opinion is she probably got embarrassed, obviously.

Came clean to Tommy, which I don't mind that part, she tells him. But then Tommy's harassing him. I get why he's coming out with all the receipts. A lot of people are saying he's crashing out because he's like going nonstop about it. But her response video to it was crazy because not only – she was kind of doubling down being like, it is Ronnie. Yeah. You know? She made a seven-minute response on TikTok.

And she – it's kind of in between. Like she says, yeah, okay, maybe I was. But then she kind of like shows some receipts like she's like on um on april 24th 2025 i posted this photo with machine gun kelly and then the next day ronnie who has had beef with machine gun kelly posts this on his instagram and it's just like a photo of him in the gym i'm not sure how the two are like related but i think britney is trying to see like he plant the seed that it is yeah he said i did i do it better because he had the blackout tattoos so he was just she's trying to say like he's obsessed with me and this like it was so much reaching and it's like girl like i feel like at this point like yeah you gotta just take that l

like we've taken the l we've been calfish. It's like, that's so embarrassing, but. It was hard. It was like really confusing though, because he, that's why it was so, I was like fascinated by it because I, my immediate reaction was, oh yeah, she was definitely catfish. But then there's so many people saying like, oh, he's so like defensive about it. Why is he going so hard that he doesn't know her? He was just, cause he had a girlfriend at the time. So like he just didn't want to be caught by his girlfriend. But then he's posting know her. He was just, because he had a girlfriend at the time, so he just didn't want to be caught by his girlfriend. But then he's posting a TikTok. He goes through his phone,

like showing, I've never downloaded Snapchat or whatever. And then people are saying, well, it could be a different phone. I was just going the ping pong with both sides. I'm like, oh my God, I don't know. But the fact that you have a catfish story with the same guy makes a lot of sense.

Yes. And I'm not the only one. There was, my sister has a Ronnie Radke catfish story with the same guy makes a lot of sense yes yeah and i'm not the only one there was my sister has a ronnie racky catfish story on my space like for some reason this particular guy i think because he's not that famous but famous enough where there's enough photos of him i think that gives it they're very easy specifically uh catfish has used a lot of emo girls and guys for some reason i don't know why it's like they have a lot of photos they have a lot of content out there um but if you even search on instagram ronnie rocky like the official one doesn't come up like it's shadow band or something like i couldn't find his official one so i was trying to watch all the stories there's like literally a

thousand i probably if i open my my dms now i probably could find like dms from a ronnie rocky account that's not him crazy like weirdly he gets like a ton of like catfish accounts. So it is like kind of known that. That is nuts. It's nuts. And it's also nuts that like she like showed up to a set. Again, I say that having showed up to like a concert, you know, being not invited by, you know.

So I don't know. I think it's, I think she. That's the thing about the situation is like, there's these two people, but both of them are victims. There's a third person here yeah that's why both of them are going so hard because both of them are victims of something and then he has a girlfriend tommy lee is after him he's like what just happened to my life right now like i you know he's a big fan of him he has a girlfriend this is the worst thing can happen to you to be blamed of cheating if he didn't. Yeah. And at this point, I believe it's a catfish because she never met him. Had they met, obviously it wasn't a catfish.

Voice memo, something. If it wasn't a catfish, they would have met. They would have met. They would have taken it to the next step because, like, he's not a child. He doesn't need to correspond with her for a month. Yeah. For what? But her trying to, like, show that he's obsessed with her it's

such a weird thing she's she's a victim of this and that's the worst thing about catfish is they are they they have an upper hand on you because they control the situation they know the situation they know that you don't know so in her mind she was really manipulated to think this is him and whatever they told her whatever they did to do that, you know, at that moment, you believe all of that. And when that flips on you, you're kind of like, you're very disoriented

because everything you believe to be true is not at this point. And it's hard to grasp that. But again, there's a person there that, you know, manipulated, lied. How did you finally get, know your catfish was a catfish? Because I had told you,

I was like, no, this person has been around for a a while this has been a fan of mine for a decade but you didn't believe me you're like no she's a fan of my work what was it for me what was different it was quarantine so quarantine people didn't like it wasn't like easy to meet people or see people so for me it didn't matter it was more about just the correspondence because i was like by myself in quarantine but you didn't FaceTime? No. So it was just like, because whatever people tell you, you kind of take it for, you know, you believe. Because again, you think, because the person knows where you're at.

So they tailor everything to fit where you're at. So everything makes sense. But you don't know that they know you already. You don't know that they know what happened before they met you. They know what. But you kind of doubled down like Brittany did where I was like,

this is a catfish. Like, no, it's not. And I was like, no, this person's been a fan of mine. No, but this was before I even talked to them. Like this was before, like you just saw the name.

This was before. But when you started like suspicion, like I was giving you suspicion that this was a catfish, you didn't believe it. When did it turn to be like, like, what do you think she'll turn and be like,

okay, it wasn't Ronnie. When I, well, at that point I just did, I said, okay, you you know if we don't meet where this is not going to move forward and that's where it broke but you were like gonna pick her up at the airport no you're mixing up two different things oh two different catfishes but but the point was when you come to a point of meeting they can't meet you so then it has to come to a resolution but she came clean to you you so then it has to come to a resolution but she came clean to you she gave you her full identity she's like actually i'm this person

right because at that point she's like okay you know but because i think it's kind of like the movies right people be like oh i lied to you but you know it's still me the person you talk to which didn't happen in kafish a couple times and i'm like well no it's not because you're a liar it's not that's what we had talked about though because it does happen to nine day fiance you remember summit catfish jenny twice with like a young man's photo twice and she said was like it's fine like so i guess maybe she thought there was well i was still talking to you as me which yeah if i was how you know their age gap and all that you know what i mean like for you know what I would love to know the Ronnie Mackie catfish.

Like I wonder if it was like a hot guy or if it was just like some random girl. Was it like, was it that girl at Catfish U that catfished me as Ronnie Mackie? Like you never know. Like I would, I wish I would have gotten closure. It's definitely not a hot guy. You know, it's...

Oh! I don't think you'd be catfishing people if somebody, he'd be too busy being hot. I want to know who catfished me. Honestly, yeah, T. Yeah. You actually are very right about that. I've yet to see a catfish that'd be too busy being hot. I want to know who catfished me. Honestly, yeah. T, yeah. You actually are very right about that. I've yet to see a catfish that'd be like, oh.

Super like hot, confident, yeah. Yeah. I guess the deeper issue people were saying, which I am like, I don't know if this is the deeper issue, was that she was just wanting to like be with him outside of her marriage. Like kind of cheating was the well we don't know we don't know if maybe they did already separate and that happened in their separation phase we we don't know we don't know well she did say she was going through stuff in

her marriage but they weren't divorced so yeah and now she she said she's now um in a hotel room right not like at her home with tommy so which is odd yeah she also never met the person she never she didn't take any action she might have taken action she might have got to a situation be like oh i can't do this you know like we don't know i to me at this point weird she's she's a victim of something that's horrible that's how i see it at this point we don't know what where she came from i was just snapchat just Snapchatting like a Jason Momoa? When you're single, sure, whatever.

No, but that's what I'm saying. We're in a marriage like they were. No, but we don't know what the situation was. Maybe they were already in a breakup phase or something.

We don't know where she would have taken it or not taken it. All right. You're on team Bernie. I like it. I'm just saying there's two different things

happening here and one of them she's a victim of. The second thing between her and Tommy, that's between her and Tommy, because like you said, he lives like he's in an open relationship, allegedly. Yeah, they just, that counts. So, you know, if she messaged somebody. I love that she came clean to him.

She's like, hey, I've been. What's weird is that, I mean, you've been, she could have just not do anything and everything would have been fine she knew it was coming out or

no she got she got duped and then that could have been the end of it yeah I wonder why she told him I feel like maybe he saw something and then she had

to come clean oh okay like a snapchat yeah I don't think he knows how to check snapchat I don't think so either but

he's literally 60 I think like over 60 64 yeah I think it Yeah. Like, over 60, 64. Yeah, I think it would. I'm kind of, again, in the middle. Because, obviously, yes, at the heart of it, cheating equals bad. But it's also, like, we're not talking about a, no offense, but, like, the most loving, doting, loyal husband in the world. Yes.

Like, contextually of who the man is and, know the past and present and everything all that into account is like there's probably more going on versus if it was like um a couple that is known to be like in love and loyal and etc you know like barack obama michelle obama yeah yeah exactly well yeah she's talking to her something like that yeah it's like you know really a couple who is like their brand how in love they are in the very you know there's no history of dubious activity you know so yeah i think it gets murky with this man in particular so it's hard to to figure out what exactly is going on just the idea of someone getting catfished in 2025 though was especially someone famous getting catfished i'm like whoa

that's what like it really took me out i was like wait hold on i know it is it is crazy yeah it is wild how long has she's been with tommy i think they got married in 2019 yeah i think they met like the year before they've been together a while they met at in 2019 yeah i think they met like the year before two they've been together a while they met at a pride i know that they met at a pride like 2017 or um they married on valentine's day 2019 yeah so they've been together so i see that happening to her because she's not out there dating you know what i mean true because when you're out there dating then you're aware of the fact that half of the people you meet online are not social media as an influencer you know about catfishes like

obviously when i was going through mine i like this was also my meth era so i was not believing anybody anything but like with yours i remember when yours was happening i was like how do you not know this is a catfish like it's so obvious but it's like not that's not that i didn't have that experience to even think about like the last thing that came across my mind because she's like she is a social media person and like she obviously dated she was she was not i don't say not young we're like around the same age but she wasn't like young when she met tommy she like had dated a bunch of guys before so that was like her brand and stuff like that so it's not like she was on the apps you're different because you just didn't date so yeah i don't know i and i guess into her defense too she said there was a

mutual friend that said ronnie racky was going to come to her show oh yeah it's true it's like text message she had with a guy named danny nobody knows who danny is but she's like texting someone about ronnie racky with danny and yeah so someone she knew so i get that like how i could feel that way that might have been that because that's that's what i'm saying there's one thing that usually throws you into a loop where you think that things so whether there was like an insane coincidence that when that person told her that the catfish acted or maybe that turned her into being more aware of this person and she saw him on snapchat did she find i want to move on you know i think she said that the ronnie added her yeah ronnie added me yeah on snap she um let me just confirm because i have it saved but also she knew the real ronnie's instagram to be like i'm outside

your house so it's like why didn't she ever verify it with yeah that's true because if you're already i guess he never followed her back on instagram but she followed him on Instagram and was liking posts and stuff of his and was like replying to his stories as if they had a relationship, but he never replied to her. Like never saw them maybe or something. That's actually kind of crazy now that you say that. Yeah.

Because she was, it's not like she literally was replying to all his stories, but you think. Yeah, never replied back. Yeah. Yeah. How interesting. I think it's like she got catfished.

It's embarrassing. She's trying to double down because he's exposing. But then the people who already hate Ronnie are like, oh, he's crashing out because he's like so obsessed with like, you know, proving himself wrong. I agree with you. It sucks to be like in that position. Like I would also be that way if I was married and I was like, well, I am married. But like if someone was just like, I've been talking to Trisha and it wasn't me, I'd be

so, I would be pissed too. I'd be like, okay, stop saying this shit. And I probably would go all out too. Be like to be like okay person you've been obsessed with me like i i get i do get both sides but i feel for britney like obviously like he's like going through the marriage i mean being married to me like i used to love tommy lee but obviously the pam stuff even the britney stuff she's had to go through with him it was like because there was like a whole boat thing i remember that saga where he was like out with girls while she was home she's obviously an insecure like insecure in their relationship for whatever reason probably because of him i'm not saying she

is but you know she has her own insecurities so she's going through a lot rock stars of that era it's just it's a problem yeah and if he has a drinking problem on top of it which is clear they have a different view of what it is that they do in this world you know the citizens of troubadours they see themselves as. Which is sad because they did seem, I thought, well, maybe he's, you know, in old age, like you kind of just like want to settle down. So I thought, oh, maybe he's like excited to have this like hot girl and he's just going to be monogamous.

You know, later on in life, maybe you just want to settle down. But I don't know if that's true because they were doing like bonsai trees together. Like they were doing cool together, like little TikToks. They seemed kind of. I haven't. Yeah. Well, i'm going to stop right there but i feel for her i feel for her more than i feel for yeah and my message to her is like don't even be embarrassed because you because you're you're a victim of what happened you don't need to be embarrassed of it it's not i love that no i'm embarrassed by my cat you're not embarrassed by your catfish? no oh wow it's horrible

it's horrible that people like that are out there and what they do I'm embarrassed by mine I mean that's embarrassing I guess at the end of the day you just believe someone she it's like

she believed and you know when they capitalize the letters it's like she believed but then they capitalize he lied like in the letters it's very bad it's very bad

so you just believe I guess at the end of the day you just believe the wrong person and is believing in people a crime i guess you know yeah yeah it's a great it is a crazy story like how it came out why she told tommy why did tommy dm why did ronnie make it public like it is a crazy thing especially thinking back to um the Brooke saga where Brooke made up for the little the story she's like oh yeah what was it that she made up with Tommy Lee at Coachella and then that's when Brittany went off on her she's like Brooke and Tana are talking about and that's the thing I think Brittany's such an easy target because she's so defensive of her marriage and she like does attack like my whole thing with her

was is literally 2017 i recreated pam and tommy photos literally do you remember this oh my god that triggered my memory literally 2017 or 20 things so they maybe just started dating i would have no idea i did not follow any of them like that but i love was that when you had the big pink hat was it that one oh no before that was like the same year yeah when we did our interview and i did i recreated the pam and tommy and i was just like oh like, like they're – I do remember this, yes. I don't know. I thought I looked fierce.

I looked like Pamela Anderson. She went off on me. Oh, my God. All of a sudden I started getting spam comments from Brittany's account. But more so Tommy Lee's Instagram started commenting being like, spam Pamela Anderson. Like just being so nasty to me. I was like, what the hell? It's like 65-year-old Tommy Lee on his Instagram doing this.

And then she would do video of them like watching my video because I did a video, a vlog about it. And then like laughing at me and being like what the hell like and then like they're like laughing it was so weird and i was like it really did hurt at the time but then when i realized i mean like later on and i was seeing she's she's obviously crashed out over the pam documentary like she was like very upset you remember like she's very you can tell she's very insecure but again like i would be too. You're married to Tommy Lee who's married to all these beautiful women who's also known to be a cheater by his own admission, by the dirt, by all this stuff like that. Obviously, he has issues with his family and his drinking. I mean it's like a lot.

It's a lot to handle. So I like – I do feel for her hindsight. But in the moment, I remember being like so embarrassed and upset. Yeah, of course. I was like, oh my god. I was like – so I think she has insecurities in the relationship. And yeah, then the Brooke thing happened.

I did see a comment. I think someone's like, so does this mean what Brooke was saying was true? And then Brooke commented, she's like, absolutely not. Yeah. Because she also,

anytime, like she's so quiet, anytime, like if it was real, she would never say anything. You know what I mean? I know, but you know what?

Like, I always think that too. It's a fair comment because you're like, was though because it is tommy lee you hear these stories and and that's why i can never be married to anyone famous much less tommy lee because you would just always especially if you're already a little insecure to begin with that on top of it oh yeah if you're not with him because i think she wasn't with him that night at coachella and that one night you're not with him like damn it you know what I mean it's just but it's just a random anyways I don't want to get the deep dive it's just such a random thing for Brooke to make up but I know it was like so random it's so niche and Tommy Lee

is just like not popping like that she always would make up like a random old guy I forget there was like another person yes where she like something? Yes. Where she like with Clinton, when she was dating with Clinton, she made a joke about thinking Kid Rock is hot. So. Right. Maybe that's just her country girl horseback riding route just kind of come out and she just kind of says an old man. Tommy Lee is just so random.

Like I never think of him. I really only think of him because of Britney. So. Maybe that's, I mean, I guess that's funnier than saying like, I don't know, Benson Boone. Because I feel like Benson Boone no one would believe. But Tommy Lee, it's like, oh, it's kind of a gag. But most people, a lot of people watching, literally people at my show would be like, Tommy Lee.

Like, they didn't even know Usher. Like, they're not going to know Tommy Lee. Do you know what I mean? I think that's why it's more camp. Because it's so like, you know, irrelevant. So random. No offense. But, you know.

Yeah. No. But, you know, we'll be at 65. Yeah. Maybe not. Maybe not. But it is. It's so sad. I know. But it is, it's so sad.

I know. Is it still going on? I mean, it was entertaining, but it's, it is sad because it is like someone's life. To me, it was such a mystery.

That's, and I didn't know like what was going on. That's why I was so intrigued because I was like, wait, this is so bizarre. It was such a bizarre

random story. So it was like. And it kind of blew up. Yeah, it became like, you knew about it. Moses was texting me about it and I started seeing it everywhere

and I was like, and Brittany, she really does find herself in the middle of so much scandal for being quite not on the internet anymore because she doesn't really make content. I think she has a podcast, but yeah, she's pretty low key. Yeah. So I don't know. Did you see the last one she posted? Something like, oh, I'm driving by your house. Oh, the gas light shop.

Yeah. There was a store, a restaurant called The Gaslight. And she's driving by, what did she say, your ex's? Should I stop by his house or something? And then she showed it and it said gaslight. Did you see it? No. Which isn't great, adding to this little obsessive stalker storyline that was being portrayed about her.

But I saw that. Yeah, that was weird. I don't know who she was talking to. Like, who's ex? She knows his ex? Because then she posted something with, like, girls supporting her. Like, it was very,

all very confusing. It was very... Oh. She's really pretty. Very pretty. Yeah. Very, very beautiful. I think she said her body

was all natural. Like, just super gorgeous. Her body is tea. Face card is there. Hair is stunning. No, she's beautiful. And I think that's what's, like just super gorgeous. Her body is tea. Face card is there. Hair is stunning. No, she's beautiful. And I think that's what's like always so weird with people is like how, you know, pretty girls can also be insecure.

But we always talk about this. Like the pretty girls are always cheated on. They're always the ones getting with losers. Look at Holly and stuff. It's like they're always with these awful. True. Honestly, the Holly stuff. Yeah.

Again, not to be this person, but Tommy is so old. I mean, you know what I mean? She's so hot. It's like, what is that? I don't know. Like, I don't know. You almost feel bad for those girls. Not feel bad, but I think Tommy Lee in his 30s.

Actually, I'd probably be off. Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, I don't know. He's cute. He's handsome. Good segue, because Lorde got some backlash because she did an interview with the Rolling Stone. And before we get into the backlash, though, I did think it was funny.

In this article, she talks about like her gender identity. And she said Chapel Roan came up to her at the Met Gala and Chapel just said, so what's the deal? Are you non-binary now? Which I love that Chapel just walked up to the Lord and was like what's the tea mama are you or papa I guess

what are your pronouns I love that she has pronouns I love that Lord said she still goes by she considers herself like non-binary

like as far as gender but she still uses she her pronouns she said when she feels like a woman and when she feels like a man she feels like a man and I was like first of all I said this in 2019 i was gonna say very trish coden my original thing that i originally got canceled for but now people see it and that's why i'm glad

that people are accepting of it because i i get it unless you like live it you don't get it you know what i mean and people think you like it is very an abstract kind of thing so yeah same with like that's why people are so like transphobic and stuff too because they can't understand the idea of being born in the wrong body and stuff but yeah it is such a spectrum feeling like trapped in this body that's like not yours and that's like how i thought that's why like not to be what not to make about me again but like when i discovered drag race in season 15 i was kind of like wait i feel like i think i said it in my original I'm trans video.

It's like, I feel like I'm a drag queen, which is why I thought I was like a boy. I thought you had to be like a boy to be a drag queen. So that's why I was kind of like confused on that because that's how I feel. And I still feel that way whenever I get in like my hair and makeup. I'm like, ooh, it's giving drag. It's giving performance. And so it is like, it is a hard thing to explain to someone. Like it doesn't feel like you.

You feel like you're, it's a performance of you. Yeah. I don't know. And that's why I like the non-binary. Because in my everyday life, don't give a shit about being a girl. I wouldn't say I'm like full on guy. Because I don't, you know, I don't know if I'm fully there. But I just, you know, that's why I like the non-binary.

I'm like, ugh, I don't know. Just what I'm being, you know. Yeah. So I like what Laura's saying. Yeah. That part, me too. Love that part. Okay, What happened? Well, then Lorde went on to talk about how she watched Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee's

sex tape. Oh, no. Yes. In this article, she said she underwent psychedelic therapy because she was dealing with a lot of mental health issues in her past eras. And she said when she was going through this therapy she started watching pamela anderson and tommy lee's sex tape she said that um uh she watched the entire thing and that quote i found it so beautiful and maybe it's effed up that i watched it but i saw two people that

were so in love with each other they were jumping off this big boat and they were like children. They were so free. And I was just like, whoa, being this free comes with danger. And people were obviously very upset because Pamela Anderson has been very outspoken time and time again about how this was never supposed to be out there and that people stole this tape and then profited off of it um she said that uh we never made a dime off that and i hate when people say we settled on something we never settled on anything we just told people to get lost if anyone watches it if anyone buys it if anyone sells it it's just pathetic you can't put a monetary number on

the amount of pain and suffering it caused and And she also talked about how it affected her career and how she was the punchline of all the jokes on talk shows and about how humiliating it was. And she even like went to court, obviously, to try to put a stop to it. But she said that she was seven months pregnant with Dylan and it was affecting her pregnancy because of all the stress about like going to court and having everyone like objectify her and talk about her body in like a such a sexual way that she just wanted the case to be over. Like she didn't want to keep having to go to court because she was carrying a baby and didn't want anything to happen to her son. This is like 30 years ago before anyone cared about text or anything. It was like looked at such a different way yeah so knowing that she's gone through all this trauma and then saying that you enjoyed it yeah in this release don't article i know this is we talked about last week on patreon

like about the need for publicists and this is one where like a publicist should have been there and like take that off scratch that no because it's so yeah and i feel bad because i love love lord and i think it's something if she just had a friend that's too woke to be like oh that's not i think she would be like oh actually t right that is like terrible actually not though because i'm like such a pam fan too and it's like even when the the show came out um with lily james and stuff like that like i remember like what like watching it and then pam was like so against it so then i was like okay i'm not gonna do it anymore either you know what i mean or even the pam and tommy cosplay i did that obviously before the show came out but i was like oh yeah like that was like such a

traumatic thing so it's like why are we you know i know yeah i this is just me again i'm very biased so this could all be nothing but my speculation was she is just kind of like a chronically offline girl until it's time to promote like a something you know she kind of is just doing her thing um and she's not lord yes lord she's not just very tuned in to like what's going on in the world like i only know that pam hated it and like uh just because i'm in entertainment a lot pam was promoting the last show girl um and talked about you know reclaiming her body and like the everything that happened to her um when she was sexualized so much so that's all i know about it

but i guess if someone was just very yeah out of touch and not like in tune with pop culture and has kept up but like why did she say they asked her about it or what she oh she just said like during her yeah the the therapy the psychedelic therapy and her new album is called virgin and it's like an exploration of yeah all that stuff too so yeah it's kind of it is so random but yeah i guess so i yeah i was definitely i didn't know if i could pan like that either until the show came out because i was definitely like oh my god it's so iconic it's so cool because it's like a different time now where it's like empowering and like all that Pam like that either until the show came out because I was definitely like, oh, my God, it's so iconic. It's so cool because it's like a different time now where it's like empowering and all that stuff like that. But Pam didn't see it that way.

Didn't feel that way. Still doesn't feel that way. So, yeah, it's just out of touch. Yeah, I think that too. Lauren has a lot of hot takes. She has a lot of hot takes. You know? And like you said, some people just don't know.

Yeah. Like if you're not online, like I put everything online. Sometimes you don't know. You're like, oh, my God. Like, okay, that's not it yeah sometimes you say things and then it takes other people being like not that yeah and then you're like oh she hasn't like addressed it though and i'm like lord please you some say lord please lord please i love her i do love lord she's very sweet and it's also kind of like, because people have pointed out

that she criticized Lana Del Rey in the past for like romanticizing like violent relationships and like DA and stuff. So people were like, well, you clocked it here. Then why are you okay with consuming like a stolen sex tape? I like, yeah, I can relate.

I don't like, like I relate to that. Like, you know what I mean? Like the hypocrisy sometimes and slap you in the face for sure but i i'm hoping i want to think that one if this is brought to her attention she'd be like okay yeah that was stupid and like offensive and apologies to pam but she doesn't seem like an apologies type girl. No, she actually. Has she? Yes. Even like, um, in 20, I want to say 20, maybe like 2013 or 2012. Like when she came on the scene, she was 16.

She like hated Taylor Swift when she started. Oh. Like she did an interview. Um, and she's like, I never want to be like Taylor Swift. Like one of these like pop girls or whatever. Oh. And then, um then Taylor like reached out to her and like sent her flowers and then

she said I was like so stupid when I said that like so she she's one of those people who maybe it's like the non-media training

or something like she kind of just says things and then she does kind of own up to like oh that wasn't it like I was stupid there so very me and Rachel Zegler

very like oh my god yeah I was like oh damn i was a bitch you and lord are kind of i get it i get it i'm like so so for one thing and then like totally i do the opposite the next week i'm actually you know what yeah just learning every day yeah learning every day every hour really it's like a couple episodes ago i was you know all for joe goldberg and then like two hours later i was like you know what actually yeah actually he might be problematic so i like it you know like you said as long as you can like apologize and yeah and i hope she does or did even especially because pamela literally was just out there so much last year for the last show girl

she did so much like press and stuff so she's just very public right now she's just at the Met Gala oh my god and Laura was also at the Met Gala oh yeah very yes and Pamela is in her like no makeup very non-sexual yeah like there's no chest showing there's no anything

reclaiming her identity. Yeah. Reclaiming her body. I want to see it. She has been out there for a while because she did that documentary. It was pretty big. Was it the Netflix one? Yes.

Yes. With her sons. And then the book she did. Yeah. She was on Broadway. So she has been kind of putting herself out there with the no makeup and just being an icon. Yeah.

No comment on the Tommy Lee stuff yet. But – because she comments sometimes on it. Oh, does she? Yeah. Because comment on the Tommy Lee stuff yet, but – because she comments sometimes on it. Oh, does she? I think she commented – yeah, because Brittany – yeah, Brittany came for Pam sometimes. Really? Oh, yeah. During – I think the documentary Pam did with her sons was like a love story and talked about how like their love was beautiful, like her and Tommy.

And then she's like, why is she like bringing this up? And people came for her. They're like, what's her story? I think one thing – definitely don't ever go against Pam. She's an icon. She's a national treasure. She's a beautiful, kind soul. And then Brittany tried to like – she did a little parody about Pam and people did not

appreciate it. It was giving insecure, which I, again, get because, damn, your husband's married to the most beautiful woman on earth. And then she just made a documentary about their love. Because it was a lot of like footage with her and Tommy. You know what it's kind of giving? Me? Hailey Bieber, Justin.

Oh, yeah. Because I was thinking, I was like, why is she so – I guess if you're so iconic. Yes. Like Tommy Lee and Pam are such an iconic couple. Which is so weird because, again, I know there was like – there was like spousal abuse and stuff in their relationship too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, it's like – Andal abuse and stuff in their relationship too so it's like but anyway

it's like and she talks about that too yeah especially if the relationship was so bad why do you keep talking about it like that kind of stuff okay you also had kids together it's about layered you know it's like but such an iconic couple i guess that is still referenced obviously everybody does kim kardashian dresses as them like kelly ripple like everyone does renee rap just did the pam like the pink hat yes which tommy was in the coat yeah so it's very so if you have any like a little bit of insecurity it's gonna be multiplied times like a thousand especially when you're with someone for years you're like damn why are you still talking about yeah it is kind of the hayley bieber kind of thing yeah it sucks you'll always yeah you have to be really secure yeah you could

be the most beautiful both of them are beautiful hayley and um britney but or even if you are like secure social like if you're just social like a social media girl they'll break you down at some point oh for oh yeah no can never yeah it sounds awful yeah but hayley bieber is being posted by justin bieber so i guess they're still going strong in their toronto maple leafs. I just saw them kissing photos. So they seem to be going good. Yeah, I think so. He posted – didn't he post after the Met Gala, my girl's got beautiful toes of Hailey Bieber on his –

I didn't see that. He's so wild. He's wild. Where are they at? I want to meet him. I'd like to interview him. I forget. He was somewhere in Europe, I want to say, like, a couple weeks ago when the Met Gala

was happening. Because people were like, where's Justin? But he was recording music somewhere. He's going to make a comeback. Somewhere abroad. I hope so. I hope him and Ed Sheeran make songs again. Well, yeah.

Why not? Yeah, they're a good combo. They're a good combo. Yeah. For all the times you try to rain on my parade. That's my favorite song. I love that song. It's so good. I'm surprised you haven't, like, gotten tired of it. You're still hyper-fixated my parade. That's my favorite song. I love that song. It's so good.

I'm surprised you haven't gotten tired of it. You're still hyper-fixated on that song. No, I love it. Yeah. I listen to it over and over. I have a really hard-hitting story that I'm so excited to tell you about. Oh my gosh, I can't wait. This headline took me out when I read it.

Brianna Chicken Fry LaPaglia is trying out jorts in her quote bisexual fashion era. I've been taking risks. This was a real headline. By who? Who put this headline out there? I think it's page six. Yeah, page six. At the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue 2025 launch party.

The reputable page six. The reputable page six. This headline, this got me in my tracks and I had to click and I had to learn more. Oh my gosh. So I mean, it was effective. It got got my eyes on it the bisexual era of jorts trying out jorts and her bisexual fashion era took me out bisexual fashion era yes yes because she has talked about post um zach bryan that like a lot of girls have been hitting her up and she's been open to exploring that yeah right so she told page six

i think i've just really been taking risks about what i'm wearing what i'm emulating i'm really like leaning into my androgynous side sorry i'm so sorry she's gonna be so mad at me but it's just kind of funny because she was like so brianna saying this okay because she's just so glam and like right i love that she put on denim cutoffs like like loose fitting denim cutoffs she's like i'm giving androgynous it's giving me what i did triple and i'm i'm trans i think i'm a boy yeah oh my god she said i've been really tapping into my bisexual era like going on dates with girls and just trying fashion that i would be scared to try otherwise and it's been really cool it's been fun. I feel like I'm learning a lot about my style.

When asked about some of the looks she's been trying, she said, jorts! I really wanted to wear jorts. Everyone else is. I can wear them now without feeling weird because she's bisexual. She can wear jorts, everybody! Is that a bisexual thing? I don't know. I don't think so. It's giving more full lesbian

to me than bisexual, but I love... Oh, okay. Kind of like, what is it? Ava on Hacks? Yeah, I guess she wears jorts. She does wear jorts. She's bisexual. She does love those with the sneakers and socks. She wears jorts.

Yeah. But jorts gate, which one of them was wearing jorts again? Oh. Tana or. That's what I'm saying. This is the second time I hear jorts in one week. Tana was wearing jorts, right? Yes.

And Brianna. Brooke was like, those jorts were ugly. Yes. Yes. Oh my God. That's so. It's a big week for jorts, you guys. Have you tried it? Big week for jorts right yes and the brown uh brown up brooke was like those shorts were ugly yes yes oh my god that's so it's a big week for jorts you guys big week for jorts i do have jorts i never tried them i think i would look like um kevin smith if i wore jorts you know what i mean like i would give that for sure longer than yeah they're jeans and short they're jean shorts yeah and they're like not fitted which is in right now very like billy eilish renee oh yeah yeah that's what i'm saying i was giving more lesbian but i love a bisexual too but jorts in general are in style i think yeah anyone i think anyone could wear jorts it's a bisexual fashion era. Like there's some things that are indicative of a sexuality.

Like for lesbians, carabiners. Carabiners are a very lesbian thing. Yes. I just learned about these. There's, I would say half my audience are lesbian these days. Love. Like everyone who comes to the show, I have to show you one. They always dress as me and Moses.

I saw the Moses one. Did you see the biggest fan one? There was like, I'm Moses' biggest fan and it had your picture so cute this last one no i saw one that says i love water oh yeah that was that that's what i'm saying they always come as me and moses it's like so amazing they're like always like that was really young too they're like married for like six years but they're like 26 year old like lesbian couples that always come and i'm always so gay i have to ask people now how do you know each other because i was just like a friend sister and like wives i'm like I love it

so if you come to my show it's like half lesbians and I'm obsessed with them it's very cool last year was you're the lesbian and this year and honestly probably

2026 too I would say I think it's gonna officially take over the world yes maybe Brianna LaPiglia will be on the list with her jorts

it took me out I just I live I love I love love love an influencer interview on a red carpet it just takes me out every time oh my god like i love that so funny it's an interview i thought it was like an ai written article no this was an interview that they paid these are actual words came out actual words yeah i love it it is giving it is giving like yeah put on a troy bolton wig

you're feeling a different gender. You know what I mean? Like, I feel it. I get her. I love it. She put on jorts and was like, damn. Bisexual realness. Let me go on a date with a girl. Yeah.

I love it. Me too. I love the bisexual representation because she could just be like, look, I'm full lesbian. You know what I mean? But she's like, I'm going to go with the bi route for now. And that's what it is. Well, I think she's still dating men. No, didn't she hint about guys sometimes too on TikTok?

So, yeah. She's exploring. She's giving Ava from hacks. I like that. She likes a little bit of both. Maybe she needs to be a polyamory. Kind of good. I did a polyamory once and it was wonderful.

She wore jorts too. I think she wore jorts. She did an interview. I remember the girl in the relationship, my polyamory, she did an interview dating me. Emma's wearing jorts in the interview? God, I want to say she looks jorts too. I think she wore jorts. She did an interview. I remember the girl in the relationship, my polyamory relationship, did like an interview dating me and I was like, oh, that's so funny. Emma's wearing jorts in the interview? God, I want to say she looked like a mermaid in real life, but yeah, maybe she was wearing

jorts. She was ahead of her time because I was like 2018 or something like that. Oh, yeah, true. I love that she came forward because that gave me some credibility. I think people thought I made it up. So I was like, oh, yeah, look at this. This is my polyamory girlfriend that I had a relationship with for a minute. You know, it was, it gives credibility when they come out with it.

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they might think, oh, it's for attention or confusion. But no, it's real. Wow. Bisexuality is real, everybody. And Brianna LaPiglia is giving bisexual realness. I want to see her in jorts. Was she on the red carpet in jorts? Oh, why was she on your body then?

She has posted like a couple OOTDs. We got to try it out. Maybe that's OOTDs. We gotta try it out. Maybe that's our next Patreon video. We all try jorts. Who is the best? Yes. You should go to the mall. Try it out. When you see Lilo and Stitch.

Why Lilo and Stitch and jorts? While you're next outing. I'm like, where are you gonna go? You're gonna go see Lilo and Stitch. He goes with a Hawaiian shirt. I do have a lot of jorts, so I can do it. I don't know where are you going to go? You're going to go see Lilo Stitch. He goes with a Hawaiian shirt. Yeah. It's very 90s. I do have a lot of jorts so I can do it. I don't know if I've ever worn a pair. I have like little skinny jorts but I have like one or two looser jorts now. I feel like

I look two feet tall when I wear jorts. Yeah. It also gives me like Bart Simpson vibes. I don't know if he wears jorts but I would assume he would in real life. Okay. I think there was a Tana and Brooke jorts gate that just came out on the canceled tour um across the pond they uh they posted the whole international disaster that was yeah crazy name um they posted the full jorts gate documentary i don't even know what do you call it the movie film screening of it which

was crazy i'm i'm shocked i'm so shocked why why why did we put this out i guess because so much time has passed they probably feel so removed from that era that they're like this is kind of camp which i can see that i can see that um it's camp until you watch it you're like oh this is like really intense abusive like they're just like screaming at each other I was like oh my god I love both of them obviously yeah it was wild it is intense I just couldn't imagine you and me like on a bus and just like screaming at each other that's what I was thinking too like crazy see you next Tuesday yeah I'm censored I couldn't imagine. I think we're also just so, we're both so passive that it's like, okay, no worry. Like, we're just like, we never like care that much.

But this is also why I wouldn't go on a bus with anybody. Like, even on my own tour. Because it's like, I think after a while that would, like, you would probably snap over, like, jorts, I guess you would say. I could see me for sure being, i could see me being both of them because i'm very anal about like time and being on time like oh my god like if you are late like and to tana's credit she shows up like right on time i was gonna say she's very different now but this is also like yeah like sure yeah so i but that drives me nuts oh my god someone's like late for sure I would also be like

frustrated and annoyed but I've also been the Tana of the situation too where I'm just like it's fine like I can you can wait like an hour

you know what I mean like I get both but obviously the full video it got leaked I don't think we're supposed to have phones on this tour

is that what the rule was yeah there's supposed to be no phones I'm watching the whole thing I was like okay yeah it was a whole thing. I was like, okay. Yeah. I think it was like seven minutes or something. I was seated.

Yeah. It didn't make Tana look good. Again, this was like, I don't know what year this is, but right before Miracle, I think. Yes. Like 2022 or something. Because it was before we started, no? Before we started Dish Trish? No.

I think it was happening. Yeah. Oh, really? I think Brooke was here shortly after it happened but we really asked her oh yes the first time before George yes yes yes the first time she was here

was right before because we asked her about George Skater thing yeah and it was like kind of like written off as like nothing serious yes because a clip was in one of their vlogs

or something but yeah this was the full yeah I think Brooke posted it or Tana maybe I don't know someone posted it yeah one of them but this yeah the full thing yeah i mean

kudos to tana for being fine with that whole thing airing it is a good bit to have in your tour like if i'm getting a ticket to cancel and they show that i'm like oh i got my money's worth today because it is crazy i know but then it's also like oh like i don't know you look at i don't look at them differently but you know you look at someone i don't know like me and mose are having a fight and i'm like let me show you that full fight and it's like this is the full 14 minutes and then me shows me just being like so verbally abusive i'd be like i don't know. Me and Moe's are having a fight. And I'm like, let me show you that full fight. And it's like, this is the full 14 minutes. And then me, shows me just being like so verbally abusive. I'd be like, I don't know if that's like, people would be like, Trish, that's not. Why did we show this? You know what I mean?

Yes. Especially they're so far removed from that now. Like, don't you want to show like the happiness? We've had toxicity in our past. I'm not going to re-air it. It's true. Let's look at this. How great this was.

I know. I was kind of digging it back. I mean, I'm trying to look at, I'm trying to find the bright side, I guess. But it is a little nuts. And at the end, the clip of like this little documentary and being like, whose side are you on? Like dramatic like text. And it's like, Tana, girl, I'm sorry, but damn. Obviously.

Not yours. Not yours, girl. And the whole crowd is saying Brooke, too, you know, because in this situation, it's like. I know. Brooke is, like, trying to just get Tana to show up on time before the meet and greet and everything. She's dealing with her managers, yelling at her, like, Tana's managers.

You're going to lose money. Yeah. The venue's going to pull out. Especially, was that, like, their first, I think, tour or whatever, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, especially for someone who's not used to it and, like, you have all these people making it.

Obviously, it's,'s like for a good reason saying like the stakes are so high these people are going to be upset you're going to lose all this money um obviously she's going to be like frazzled by that and be like look we have to show up to this especially in general even when she's not getting paid brooke is very punctual right right and then kind of be like we'll just do the tour without me we'll just do separate to earlier that's a lot it's a lot it's like oh yeah but the bright side like you were saying not the bright side but i guess like the point of all was like you said you at least you feel like you got your money's worth i don't think it was ever meant to

be on tiktok because they always say they like the i think the rule is no phones oh and they say they're really secure because i said even the first tour i was like how did you guys get not getting those stories leaked and like they were really really on it like security would like tape their phones if they saw them out they would take them in so someone posted it somewhere out there I think the European audience is just not

not as good with the rules their morals their ethics wow that's his opinion on the European audience I love you it's kind of giving the Met Gala

like you know you're not supposed to take your phone in there but you know but someone filmed the whole thing so someone wasn't doing a good job if you filmed all seven minutes of it I was like but I guess that's why they go on tour and

they have the juicy stories and obviously yeah when you're like in a different place now obviously they're like different people they're obviously getting along so yeah it is wild to see though but i've been tanned too where it's like i think i can be so in the right or at least i think i'm like partially 50 50 of it i also would be like whose side are you on where people like have unanimously been like Trisha you're so you're so in the wrong. You're so toxic like what? So I've been both

because she probably in her head was like you know I'm not totally in the wrong here. She was like I probably made some points. Yeah. Well actually. Not on that one but. Well no but. Doesn't mean we don't love you, but also just like what? And also Paige in there too being like, yeah, I mean, you're really not that late. Like she's trying to make it seem better.

I'm like. And that's why. But you also need people like that too that are on your side no matter what. Like it's fine. You're fine. You're not that late. You know what I mean? Like in comparison to like six hours, I guess.

Yeah. Like you're not. I know. It's crazy. It's crazy when you're like so. I'm such a punctual guess. Yeah, like, you're not. I know. Crazy. It's crazy when you're, like, so punctual. I'm such a punctual person. But I'm telling you, every night, love line, she's here on the dot at 2 p.m. I'm like, it's crazy.

I'm always like, because I always, like, allow 10, 15 minutes for anyone, 20 minutes. And then they're here before me. Yeah, because we used to think she'll be late, like, half hour, an hour. So we took her time. Suddenly she shows up. Like, oh, no, she's here. She's on time. So we're scrambling.

No, she's so on it now. And so very different. But yeah yeah her vibe is very different even in general when you think about like every month was kind of something remember like it was like that last um was it like the last interview of 2023 or something and it was like revisiting her scandals of the year or whatever yeah yeah and i was like damn she actually has a lot of scandals. But ever since, like, not really. No, couldn't review it this year. Post-Makawa, she's very chill. No, she's demure.

The vibe is very different. It is a little jawing, though, because her vibe is so different. I know. Oh, yeah. This is nuts. I know. Right, watching back then,

you're like, holy shit. But I put mine out there, too. I put them out so confident that people would be on my side. I put it out. Let's see what the people say. The delusion is actually nuts.

Yeah. You're just so sometimes not aware of your own self. But that's why some of those times it's good then. Then you hear back from people. You're like, oh, okay. Yeah. I messed up there. Yeah, I hear.

All that Lord too with the family. Yeah. Sometimes you just need to, you know, have people point out that you're just. Yeah. That's why I don't mind. On the wrong side of history. When stuff's out. Yeah.

When stuff's out there, it's like, okay. Say no. Okay. That was. Okay. Got it now it now you know what i mean because sometimes you don't know and then you just live life being blissfully ignorant or stupidly ignorant and i mean they held hands and took a bow after premiering the doc it was like the con film festival like premiere this documentary and five minutes standing ovation i was was like, okay. I know, I know. Some people ate it up. And it's kind of, yeah, it's because she puts it out there. It's for the art.

It's for the good of the show. It's for the ticket sales. Also, that's how you see growth is you have to see the real, the before and after. That's true. That is very true. That's a good way to look at it.

I don't know if you can pay me enough to do a canceled tour where I just put all my passion on blast. Like that's, I mean, it's brave, but also no thank you. I'm trying to bury it. I wouldn't even want a tour of like clips from like last week. You know what I mean? I just never want to see myself in the past ever.

Never, never. So she's like, yeah, no. No, I didn't ever see anything like meltdowns, breakdowns on camera. I literally scroll past it so fast. I'm like, oh, that's not. That's so funny. I know. That was all of my timeline.

Well, Jorts making a comeback in 2025. Yes. The year of Jorts. I love it. oh, that's not. That's not. I know. That was all of my timeline. Well, jorts making a comeback in 2025. Yes. The year of jorts. I love it. Watch, like, everyone's. The jorts are going to be, like, the next LaBooBoos. You can't find them in stores. It's going to be a whole, a whole craze.

I do not. I can just tell you I don't look like a jort. I don't think I can even try it. I just know I would look not cute. I don't like. Haven't you cosplayed as someone in worn jorts? No. Really? No. Jorts. someone in worn jorts? No. Really?

No. Jorts. Never. Yeah. Really? No. Never. I could have.

I just remember you in jeans. Loose big ones. Oh, loose. No, they were tight. Well, I've worn like, yeah, like pedal pushers, like capri jeans. But not like jorts. Not big. Not Kevin Smith. Just jorts. That's so funny. Big jersey. I never knew that like jorts. Not big, not Kevin Smith, just jorts.

That's so funny. Big jersey. I never knew that was jorts. I mean, you could probably be comfortable. I'll try. I'm going back to Nova after this. That'll be your next TikTok. Get a pair of jorts.

In my bisexual era. You might have got some that we cut to cut them into shorts. Shorts. Really? We did? I don't know. I have a memory i know i have it in my head but i keep googling and i can't like i don't remember what you were referencing funny if you both have the memory it must be true you know i don't remember my memory is more the the tight one oh no we have to get a new one. Like literally even today trying to get my phone under my suitcase.

I think mom was here, but I was just like, I can't get my backpack. Usually I get it with my foot. I was like, oh. The bending is not. God. I like see it visually, but I can't remember what you were doing. I feel like I would know right away, but. Oh my God.

It's going to kill me. You're probably thinking of something like lost cosplay. Probably. What did you wear for? Hurley? Yeah. I don't think jorts. It wasn't short?

I don't know if you could see my bottoms in those photos. Someone will find it. As always, every time you say never, someone's like, what about this? I've learned that. I'm sure I did everything at least once in my video career online. Okay, for Hurley, you were wearing just regular loose jeans. Okay. Yes, we can see your legs.

So can confirm, at least the lost cosplay, you're wearing regular jeans, not jorts. Yeah, because I hate my calves anyways. I couldn't imagine making them more unflattering with like giant jeans. But all right. Let us know if you can find me in jorts somewhere. Jortsgate 2025. Trisha said she didn't. We found this.

Jortsgate 2.0. Yes, 2.0. Oh, yeah, like Dramageddon 1, 2. Jortsgate 1, Jortsgate 2. Oh, my God, that's us. Yeah. All right, love it. Love a little scandal. did you see the Eurovision

oh yeah Eurovision you watch it no but I just saw Trish Crave tweet about the winner talking about you yes what was his name

JJ if you would react to your win tonight as a meme that's a funny question. That's such a hard question. I'd probably be reacting like Trisha Payne.

I'd be like, okay. He nailed it. I literally have no idea. I love that that was the meme answer. They were like, yeah, what meme would you react to? It's a good one. Honestly, that was a good reaction.

He did crush that meme. There's a video of him also singing I love you, Jesus. Look at that one. Really? Yeah. I want him to re-record it. Actually, if you want to do it, I'm down Eurovision winner. Because it was named JJ.

Is that his name? JJ Paitis or something? Paitis? He's Austria. JJ Paitis? I don't like my name. I love you Jesus. You give me a reason.

You get me home. Jesus. Y'all never let me go. Okay, diva. I love him. I need to be his friend right away. I was so excited

because I love a Eurovision but he's the Eurovision winner on top of that. He crushed. He did a Titus High. he's the Eurovision winner on top of that. He crushed. He did a tight as high. He was like on a ship singing like a mass. Like he was so good. Very unique voice and everything.

I know. He actually is so talented. Yeah. Congratulations, Austria, on winning Eurovision. And having an icon that has such good taste in music and memes. And artistry. Yeah. You've influenced an artist like that.

That is amazing. I feel so proud. And so far away. You know, it's like memes travel the world. Like memes is a universal language. Wow, yeah. I love that he also referenced my name as the meme. He didn't just do the meme.

He did the Trisha Payne. True, he knows specifically who said it. Yes, I loved it so much. Because sometimes, you know know you say memes and sounds and you never know like who is you took me a while to understand oh it's vanilla mace who is oh right yeah because i was just repeating everyone else saying it that's how i feel with so many the drama one like i don't think i'm the drama oh yeah i don't know yes or yeah there's there's so many that you never know who they are and i'm just like oh my gosh i randomly started

saying sister. I'm pickled. And then it took me a second. Who was that? That's Georges with Mistress Isabel Brooks. Oh, or Double Homicide. I don't know who said that. Oh, yeah. Double Homicide.

Yeah, exactly. There's this sounds that just become a part of the. He referenced it. Yeah. I kept getting taken another Eurovision person. And they said, like, she's doing an impersonation of Trisha Paytas. I don't know who it is. I remember.

My brother even told me. But usually the winner travels the world after that. So maybe. Please come on the show, Eurovision winner, because you are such a king, such a diva. Well, he knows your name. Let's make sure we know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. JJ, I think that's how they'd ask you.

Yeah, you're right. JJ. JJ. And the last name? Paytas. Yes. Sounds like Paytas. Yeah. It's P-I-E-S-C-H. Paytas. JJ and the last name Pytus yes sounds like Pytus yeah it's B-I-E

JJ P-I-T-U-S come on the show we love you I want to sing with you Sissel was the person they said is Trisha

oh does she look like me from Denmark she does I mean she kind of looks like Callie to be honest oh okay which I mean

you and Callie do look alike but she looks a lot like Callie wait let me see I think she has she kind of looks like Callie, to be honest. Oh, okay. Which, I mean, you and Callie do look alike, but she looks a lot like Callie. Wait, let me see. I think she has, like, a similar nose to Callie and the hair. Oh, okay. The hair is giving, like, me when I wear a wig, so I like it. I like it. She looks good. Love her, too.

You can come on the podcast, too. Anyone who will sing with me. That's why I love my shows. I love when everyone sings with me, so anyone who wants to come on and sing with me, I'm down. I would love to be in Eurovision. Is there ever a US? I think it's... Is it just... Is it Europe? I don't know. I've never been like

seated for a Eurovision. I know. Me neither. I'm gonna look it up. Probably not. I think we would know who our representative is. That's true. I feel like we would hear about it, right? I don't know. Unless no one... Yeah. Also, I think I can be an our representative is. That's true. I feel like we would hear about it, right? I don't know. Unless no one. Yeah. Also, I think I can be an honorary person for a Europe country. I think they can decide to put me in. You have to have an original song for that year.

I can make one. I can make an original song. I don't know. It is a tournament for national teams within the UEFA region, parentheses, Europe. Oh. Okay. Well, I think. If America buys Greenland, maybe then you can represent...

Well, then that's America. No, but then it's part of... I think it can be an honorary. I think you can, like, a country can nominate someone that's not from their country, too. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, I did hear that because I was trying to find a way to get in there last year. So someone's like, oh, you could represent if you have an original song or something.

Oh, work. Okay. Which country would you want to represent? I think I would want to represent Prague. Okay. Yeah. Is that just the first one you thought of? I think I remember it from Hostel, and it looked really pretty.

Prague is one of the most beautiful countries. Yeah, Hostel too. It's where they, yeah. I don't think it's a country. What is it? The capital of the Czech Republic? Okay, I want to be in the Czech Republic. I want to be in the Czech Republic.

I was like, wait. Prague, you know, Czech Republic. Okay, I want to be there. What do they speak in Czech? Czech? I would love to learn a language. So if the Czech Republic will have have me i'll come over there yeah i think the the strategy is to pick a small country in europe you don't think it could represent germany

hmm you probably have a lot of competition like sweden sweden they make pop stars over there so yeah definitely yeah i think it could be german i think it could be German. I think it could be French. Hungary. Yes, I do know some Hungarian songs. And I know German. What other songs do I know? I know a lot of European songs. I think I could crush in a lot of languages, honestly. What's that? I think I could crush in a lot of languages, honestly. Vergeaca, Vergeaca, Don't Make Me. What's that?

French. Oh, word. Vergeaca? Oh, you don't know Sachet Away, so I don't know what it is. I know, I know. It's not, I can confirm with my French choreographer that chante is not a French word. Oh, T, okay. So Rue just made it up?

Yeah. Oh, work. He said, I don't know. He said it does't know he said it does mean something but it's not like go away it's like oh okay love that for real more you know yeah bruce is like making up my own words which i love so much oh well shout out to jj for winning and having great taste in music my lovey jesus is really a. It really is the bop.

So. Who would have thought? I don't know. I still can't believe Roger Simpson's never aced it for their show. Like that's like the perfect song for that. Well I guess if you ever

have Walton Goggins on you should follow up in the comments. Well. I sent a DM but he hasn't accepted it. Oh. So you can't keep sending.

Oh. I was like damn. You just have to comment. Check DMs. Okay. Oh i forget your comment i'll try through to spear come like through ca like i think he's a one-on-one kind of yeah you gotta go direct you said that shirt today was inspired by walter gagan's like this yeah he sent me a picture of him and then i got this shirt because it looks exactly like what he was

wearing i do love it he didn't button it all the way top. You have to show a little chest though. Well, we're on the job right now. Professional. I love it though. I do. Yeah, I see him coming on. He has a new movie out on Unfiltered or something. No, that's the Zayn and Heath podcast. Uninvited, I think. Zayn and Heath, always on my brain.

Uninvited. I think it's a movie his wife directed, actually. Oh, okay. He's been promoting it a lot. Looks pretty good. He might be slowing down now. It's summertime. Like, what else do you got going on?

Well, Fall Out comes out in December. So, yeah, maybe we'll take a break for summer and then come back. We got to get on that show. We should start watching Fall Out. We're back on The Righteous Dome. When you left last time, we were saying The Righteous Dome shows is back. Ooh, you should watch Benny Drama's show, Overcompensating. What channel?

It's on Prime. Who's in it? Benny. Benny Drama. I like him. Guess who plays his dad? Kyle MacLachlan. Done.

How did we get him on the show I think because it's 824 they got Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers are in it Connie Britton

is his mom Charlie XCX is in it we're oomphies he never asked me to be on the show oh my god how did he get

all these people there's James Van Der Beek is in it too there's a lot of like well he was on The Masked Singer oh yeah T but yeah Kyle MacLachlan I love that he just like picked There's James Van Der Beek is in it, too. There's a lot of, like. Oh, well, he was on The Masked Singer. Oh, yeah, T.

But, yeah, Kyle MacLachlan. I love that he just, like, picked. That's. That makes sense. They kind of look like each other, too. That's so iconic. Yeah. Okay.

What is it about? Is it about his life? Yeah, it's, like, an autobiographical show about his, like, experience in college. And, like, figuring out his sexuality and stuff so he is gay yeah um and straight when you play the menendez brothers they look so straight so that was kind of his thing like he went into college being like like acting straight and then uh dating or trying to have sex with girls and stuff so how'd it go i'm only one episode in but i don't i i'm assuming not well just based off the trailer and what I've seen of the show.

I'm watching it. It's all my faves in it. I love Kyle. Kyle MacLachlan might even be above Walton Goggins. Wow. That's actually big. Oh, Kyle MacLachlan's like number one. Well, Fallout is Walton and Kyle MacLachlan, so you really got to watch that.

Wait, Kyle MacLachlan's in that too? Yeah. With Walton Goggins, so. Does he play himself or does he look like a creature like Walton? He plays a regular guy. Yeah. Oh, I love him. I love, like he is like my dream guest. I love him so much okay done i'm watching it overcompensating overcompensating

yeah it's fine i've only seen one episode it's eight um but so far it's good it did the rhetoric online is so like the 32 year old playing 18 year old which i get that it took me a second it did take me a second and i like i went in wanting to love it took me out for a minute i was like okay well you don't look like you're you know you're fresh just graduated high school you know it would be like me because we're the same age so it'd be like me being like playing an 18 year old on i could buy it i'd buy it i'd play myself at 18 too if i had a show about my life i'm playing myself i don't i do not clock him at all like he should play himself obviously and he's very he's a very good actor. Great body is T.

He's like naked a lot in it. Okay. He's just giving groan. Yeah, I think he just looks older, especially playing like an 18-year-old. Is there other 18-year-olds with him or are they all older? Do they age everyone? No, they're all kind of old, like older people in the 30s, late 20s, early 30s. Yeah. So that does help.

There's no like stark contrast of like a teenager and yeah like jenna ortega yeah yeah yeah i guess she's older too i guess now yeah but she has like she's one of those where she can play yeah forever benny is just like he's just like a hot guy you know yeah he weirdly he looks like a taller version of darian like i feel like if you i could see that put him up, like, made Darian taller. That's what I told him watching. And I was like, you kind of look similar. But, yeah, I guess, Benny, if you ever need a little mini-me version of yourself.

Darian can play. Darian should play him. That's such a cute idea. I gotta hit him up. We follow each other on TikTok. This show, it's like everything. So, I think he's going to. I mean, he's already obviously very popular.

But I think. A blum of you four. Yeah, I do think so. I love that. Some people are giving him a hard time over it. I think it's the same with like the crystals and like the pretty gay effects. Like, damn, you are successful. Yeah.

You're hot. You're a sweet guy. So a lot of people are, you know, I think a little salty about it. But yeah. If it's a good show, though. If it's a good show, yeah. He wrote it? Yeah.

Love that. Oh yeah i love that oh i love that i would play myself yeah if i get the tavern maid series i'm playing myself you know what i mean yeah of course yeah well she is old i guess but if i had like a high school version of myself i'd also play myself like would you like say if you did um your life story would you also play yourself in the in like your younger scenes oh like you wouldn't get like sabrina carpenter or something okay even as a child i'm playing myself who did that was it daniel ratcliffe as weird y'all yankovic i think i'll just play him through different ages oh did he yeah i guess technically it wasn't weird i'll play himself but vantaja i think did i think vantaja played herself in her biopic oh for all the ages yeah Yeah. Okay, work. Okay. I like it. I'll do it.

Just reverse me. They do that to John Goodman. They reverse his age in Righteous Gemstone. True. They do that a lot, actually. I was like, how do they do it? They look so young. I was like, I need that. They have done that a lot. I forget there was another movie where that happened recently. Yeah. And they look so good. I was like, wow. True. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I just play myself the best, I think. There's no one else that could take the role there we are there we are always gotta always gotta put off the the

dubious men section of the yeah I don't want to jump scare in the middle I know there's no easy transition

but Kayla Malik did reply to... No, we didn't talk about this. No, because this happened the day, I think Thursday. Oh my gosh. So after we filmed, Kayla posted her response to James' response. She did a three-part TikTok series replying to James' 10-minute TikTok where he denied his relationship with Evan Johnson and denounced his relationship with him. And I mean, obviously, believe Kayla, period, of everything she's been through.

Like, it's obviously, she's proven her word is good. So, like like even going into it i was like yes kayla all this makes sense even but even before kayla's response everything she said i already thought so then hearing kayla talk about it i was like this aligns perfectly with what i envisioned happening so um she talked about how um uh, um, reached out to her every time she posts a video, a TikTok of her and Evan, James had replied, um, hitting on Evan, like, oh, who was that? Oh my God, he is so beautiful, et cetera. Kind of setting the scene for it and are already being into or having that attraction to Evan,

um, before anything else happened. And I have to say, imagine me um replying to everything you post and moses being like oh who is that trisha oh my god trisha moses looks so good here yeah can you imagine you would be like what the yeah like a lot you're doing a lot yeah and that's the only thing you replied to yes when you want me to campaign you're like okay but you and moses i'd be like weird i would never like even so like hannah or oh no a good um example i have is like cutie cinderella like her boyfriend ludwig is like very attractive i would never like go to and similar but like we're acquaintances right we're not even like close to have like the rapport so

similar to like a kayla and james collaborated acquaintances that's it like i would never reply to everything and be like oh my god Ludwig looks so good here oh my god his ass is so fat cutie you are oh my god good for you girl like I would never even to a straight man like what yeah no it's weird it's so weird

yeah and it's giving also just like in James's word desperate like what is wrong with you like what like so odd and Kayla for her part that's why I'm she's a better woman what is wrong with you like what like so odd Kayla for her part that's why she's a better woman than me because she's like very much laughs it off she's like thanks like yeah for me yeah so even with just like this right this is like the foundation even that Kayla is very gracious because right there if that was me i'd be like what are you talking about you freak like i'm like what is wrong with you i mean i guess thank you i mean he is hot but yeah yeah i think also with the reputation i'd be like that part yeah yeah so just right there i'm like okay

um and then she went on to explain that even though those comments didn't necessarily bother her they did um kayla and evan went on vacation with some friends to hawaii and um kayla says that she saw evan and james exchanging dms um and this is when she shows the infamous uh selfie of james when evan says like oh you should come out to hawaii um and then j James's selfie was uh why should I come in a little kissy face which is like cringe so cringy yeah um and obviously like in the moment Kayla was kind of actually like why are you talking to this man like why are you DMing him but that's awesome why for his thoughts why is he why but why is Evan also being like, you should go for the wedding. Yeah, exactly.

It's so weird. Kind of weird. That's all that she saw, obviously. But she just had a feeling that they continued to, like, DM after that. And that was also, like, the last of their, like, of Kayla and Evan's, like, relationship. And then the next thing that Kayla talks about is the text messages where she told James about her breakup with Evan. So obviously James had reached out to her to and to do a Valentine's Day collab for Painted with Evan. And then that's when she told them the news that they had broken up.

And infamously, James's response is, can I have them now? And again, Kayla played it off very well because contextually too if james had been sending me like all like replying to all my tiktoks being like oh he's so hot and then i'm telling him about my breakup and he's like can i have him again i would be like are you a kid like i would be like livid i'd be yeah livid um but again she is very gracious and she like plays it off but then she does say that he did that evan was abusive and he did the worst thing imaginable and that she will be doing a 30 part tell all um story time about who the f did i marry and um then when she had her last like phone

call with evan after they had already broken up kayla says that evan mentioned that um james had sent him a screenshot and that she was planning to do a 30 part like tell all about their relationship so yeah the only one she told was james yes she says she has no proof of it but she but james is the only person that she told was the 30 part tell so logistically yes yes and then i don't know again she very gracious about it too but like realistically could have been so dangerous for her like because so many times like abusive men like when they know they're about to like lose it all or whatever they do crazy horrible things to their victim to silence them so i mean obviously thank god kayla

was okay like nothing happened to her but it easily could have been something where she was hurt more and like she was like silenced by evan because he already almost unalived her because he was so abusive towards her so that's the thing too and again like i obviously believe kayla so if that's the case i feel like james almost isn't getting enough flack for that because he literally put her life in danger by being thirsty yeah i didn't even think about that yeah like you just wanted to be like the pick me to the straight guy so bad that you put this girl's life in danger because you weren't thinking about anything else other than

getting with him. Yeah, why would you relay that right away to this person? Like, it's so odd. And then, obviously, she recounts the whole thing about seeing Evan at James' house

on Snap and then confronting him about it. James lied to her and said, the text messages were day on day. It was like,

Evan, your ex? No, why would he be here? Why would he be in the backyard? Oh my god, that guy's like... It's actually so infuriating. That is the most frustrating thing in the whole world. Like, that's crazy. And then for James to just so nonchalantly be like, yeah,

I lied about it, but like... Crazy, yes. You're a liar. Even like after her series or her two-part video about it came out like he doesn't love you and like she taught like the abuse was out there she like kind of gave him another opportunity like she dm'd him about um doing a little like facetime on her podcast with jacob sartorius and kind of giving him the opportunity to like confess you know and he didn't say anything about it and he didn't address it until coachella when um uh zach gellers made the expose about james and then within minutes that's when he reached out to

kayla to come clean which is like the timing of all his stuff like she said like right after the zach thing happened right after her court date it's just like yeah and rightfully so she's like i don't want to meet up with you like too little too late like we tried i tried and you like ignored me basically and it's yeah i that timing is sus those people he's so sus i don't like that at all like oh i need to talk to you i need to talk to you right now. It's like, no, I gave you the chance. Yeah. And she's, that's the thing too. Like she said in that first text, like, and she, the way she put it was perfect.

She was like, it should have ended in there. Like it shouldn't have even been a part two. Like when I said he did the worst thing imaginable and that he was abusive, that should have been the chapters closed. The book is closed. You know, like there shouldn't have shouldn't have been anything that follows it. But the fact that something did happen where you did have a relationship with him after is the most disrespectful thing in the world. Why wasn't this girl's word enough?

Lied about it. And she said, if you weren't doing anything wrong, why are you lying about it? You knew what you were doing is shady and wrong. Yeah. So all of this, again, makes total sense with like what I kind of figured was happening from like putting the pieces together with like James's silence and then like the no statement. And then obviously with like Zach and stuff, there is a lot of crazy shit there. But the gist of it, I like I could kind of sort through all like the elaborate details and get to, like, the gist of it, you know? And it all kind of, like, makes sense. So she really, like, clocked in with it.

It was, like, a three-part series. She, again, very graceful, very gracious. The fact that she still, like, has a sense of humor about it, I'm like, damn, could not be me. Because she, like, was able to laugh at the ridiculousness of the situation because again the sentence james charles flew out and like housed and had a friendship question mark with my abusive ex-boyfriend that is such a crazy statement but they're both like such losers like just that you know what i mean just all of that all of that like him talking to james about the hawaii and trying to come out and then james flying him out but also just being such a liar. Being like, why would he be in my backyard?

Why would, like, you're both such losers, you know? And, like, I can't imagine seeing her YouTube videos where she, like, shows the stuff that she, like, lived through. And not being like, damn, I need i need to like clear my conscience like i genuinely cannot imagine because like it's what i i could almost understand if like he couldn't contextualize how bad it was until you know you actually see it you're like oh my god this was horrific yeah but the fact that you had this weird relationship with evan and then saw that and then still couldn't confess especially when she caught on that he was there because his dumb ass was snapchatting in your backyard and geotagged it in seno you freak like like what are you talking about obviously that's what i don't get

either even with his like stories and everything like that why is he just not so like on his knees like begging for forgiveness like i was so dumb like i can't believe it i'm so confused about still like yeah very very odd the whole thing yeah um so he posted has james posted since this so he did post his response did you see his response okay so yes again this was interesting um he posted oh just a story just a story yeah um he said i watched kayla's video last night and i'm grateful that she did not feed into the lies that she was told by zach while also expressing how I upset her I said it in my original video and I'll say it again Kayla I'm sorry that I was ever involved with this compulsive liar and I'm even more sorry

that my involvement hurt you she said in her video that she wasn't sure which stories from Evan were true and there seems to be some confusion about my involvement before their breakup I want to make it clear I absolutely did not pursue Evan or have a secret plot to take him from Kayla. As you will see, Evan reached out to me multiple times. I politely responded and then ended the conversation. I offered to privately share all of these messages directly with Kayla so she could see what actually happened. But now I will share them publicly to make it clear.

And then I will say, yeah, of course, Evan did instigate a lot of their DMs. But I'm also kind of at the point where it's like, well, you omitted so much from your 10-minute TikTok. Like, why was – again, I feel like most people could infer that there was missing context to, like, what James was saying. There was stuff missing that didn't make sense. But a lot of people believed him. And it was just – he straight up omitted like a lot of the details. Yes.

Manipulated it so much. So of course people are like, oh, it's like not that bad. Oh, he was, he was being a good friend. Yeah. Yeah. He was being. I remember forgetting that he took, she told him she's been abused. He took that information to get closer to him.

Yes. He's like, okay, I have information. I'm going to help you. She's about to do this about you, expose. That's wild. Right, so now he thinks I better keep James close because he's gonna let me know what's happening and help me through it.

So to take that information, to get closer to the guy. He's so gross, he's so gross. He's very calculated. I literally blocked James on like everything. Like, I'm like, you are so gross. I don't want anything to pop up. I don't want you to ever message me. Like, it's just like, ugh.

He's very calculated. Lying. He's just looking at how am I getting away with this again? Yeah. That's all he's looking at. Because that story is so manipulative, this story. Even the screenshot. I'm like, okay, but she wasn't even really talking about this. Like, where is everything after?

Okay. Even first of all, first of all, first of all, with the Instagram DMs, you can delete certain ones. And it doesn't post a notification that like oh this was deleted like right not like the phone yeah so these are screenshots and again these could very well be 100 true whatever but also because you've omitted and manipulated so much now i'm like is it this the whole story because you admit that you're a liar like yeah you lie about that yeah you admit a liar multiple times and you've skewed things to make yourself look good so like could you not have simply deleted specific messages to make it look like evan was reaching out more and it doesn't help that the guy is

but high in bar so like yeah we'll never have the the receipts to compare or whatever so there's that and then to kayla's point too she's been like replying comments and stuff where are the screenshots of everything after like that was the big thing is that like after she told you this somehow you were contacting and talking to this man and I don't think you fly someone out and have them stay with you and you organize all that through dms like are there not text messages yeah where's all that yeah the fly out everything what led up to you flying him out? What was the conversation after you learned from Kayla that they broke up? Yeah. Like, how did it, where are the screenshots of that manipulation happening?

He's leaving out so much. There's so much missing. It makes no sense. And again, obviously, it's very PR-y because he can't say anything about Kayla, obviously, because she is like a of like a da a survivor and a victim yeah so he can't discredit her word or anything so it's so i read i see right through his little statement trying to like validate what kayla's saying it's so contradictory though like validating what she's saying but then also saying she's wrong like i know what

no one sees it it's so frustrating. And Kayla's like annoyed. She's like, I can't believe I'm talking about this. Like we're making this about James Charles. Yes. Like not. She's like, you couldn't wait a day. Like you had to do it like an hour after the verdict. By the way, it was pre-recorded.

Like it was prepared. It's so gross. It's the whole thing. And like you said, she handles it so well for being so young. And yeah, I would be pissed. He's so fake. He's so fake. Like she had the podcast Jacob's story. She was trying trying to talk about it he was ignoring her until all this

came out and now it's like okay let me post now let me post a response an hour after your what you won your court case you know it's like one of the things affect him is when he cares about things so it's so frustrating it's i feel like most people can kind of see through it but there are people being like why is this even a big deal? Blah, blah, blah. So many people. It's literally, genuinely, genuinely, genuinely, like, thank God Evan's behind bars, but it could have been very, very different.

Very, very, very, very, very different. Because this man already almost killed her. So what are you even talking? Of course, it could have been so, it could have been a very, very bad ending. So of course it matters. The fact that, like, obviously, yes, Evan's also fucked up. He's, like, enabling it. He's leading James on or whatever.

But again, Taylor's all this time. How many times does this have to happen to you where you're like, hmm, maybe I'm being led on and used by straight guys because I have a large social media platform. And maybe these guys keep doing this and instigating with me because they know that I'm attracted to them. And it's kind of a joke. Like, literally, how many times do you have to be the joke for a straight man before you learn a lesson that they – it's never going to go anywhere. Like, you're never going to have a relationship.

And he put himself in it, like, by saying, Kayla's about to do this. Like, he's feeding them information. He's engaging it. Like, why do you want me to come? Like, he keeps interacting. So it's like, don't you think at some point, yeah, would say is like i've been down this road before like i think you know i've learned my lesson you know with so many people like you date you're like okay like if he if he seems gay like you know maybe don't date him you know what i mean like i don't know like

there's like certain things you just know and it's just like okay let me let me try a different angle next time and so you switch you pivot i'm not gonna date another gay guy i'm not gonna date another vlogger like i mean you just pivot you Like, what wasn't working out for me? And he's just like, and it's like always so, it ends also dramatic and tumultuous with every single person. And like you said, this guy is like dangerous. So like on top of that, you're with this like abuser. And like, what don't you see?

Maybe also don't slide into the DMs of acquaintances, you know, people they've dated. Like, it's just so weird there's just so many people out there why is he going for like these people that have like connections to people he knows it's so weird it's so weird it makes it makes no sense i know he's gonna come back because he always does um but damn i don't know anyone with good conscience. Because it's like, and it all kind of clicked for me, too, because then Kayla, after she did her series, she posted, like, a video, a TikTok the next day, where she was like, if only 14-year-old me knew when my grandma was waiting in line at Morphe to get the James Charles palette, like, what was going to happen.

She's like, girl, you don't need that palette. And then I was like, damn, I forget how young his fans were when like this stuff was happening 2019 she was like these kids were like 13 14 and younger so they just were absent from this whole thing as they should they were too young to be knowing all this devious devilish activity that was going on but it is crazy and also james like i'll never forget like when he collabed with Joey in – it was like early 2020. And he was like – oh, like he was explaining to Joey who like Charli D'Amelio was. And he's like, she's like the it girl right now. Like if you want to be on TikTok, you have to know who Charli D'Amelio is.

You have to know who these people are. And then I forget too how he like – he just is so – he adapts. Like he knew the beauty community sunk. It was over. So he got, he went to the next big thing. And even, like, he saw Emma Chamberlain come up. And she, like, at least they were around the same age at the same time. But he attached himself to Emma when she came up.

He saw Charlie come up, attached himself to her. But she was, like, 16, right? She was, like, so young. Yeah. And to his credit, at that point, he that point he was like 17 18 at that time whatever so same age she's a little bit younger but she because um sister squad was like 2018 and he was 19 in 2019 for drama get in so i'm saying with charlie oh no charlie he's older so she's 16 he's like 20 he's like 20 yeah um which is i think a little weird at that i even

thought back that i was like it's a little weird. I even thought back then, I was like, that's a little weird. You're like in their like space and everything like that. Like they just came to LA. They're not like in the influencer world. And you're infiltrating it. He's on their, I think he was in the infamous like snail eating scene. Oh, really? Yeah, I think he was the one that was like saying something.

I think he had a clocked her too when Dixie's like, oh, okay, like whatever. But I think, yeah, he was always in the mix of them. And I was like. he's very smart and that's what's kind of frustrating is he's so smart and he just like because he keeps getting this new like a little group of this even like Kayla Kayla is like a new like it girl yeah talker and then he becomes uh acquaintances with her collabs with acquaintances um collabs with her a lot too and it's like to all these girls they know him he has a big platform like it's a good opportunity for content or whatever but he's just very like on the pole so he's able to like keep going by

but also he's just like there's no growth like he's not changing like he's just he learns how to get away with stuff better yes or the audience is newer and fresher so it's just like a shakes snake setting his skin it's like yes oh here's something different and they don't have the the context of it so because i think even you hear about it um but i think living through it and seeing it like unfold in real time is very so many times it times. It's just like, oh my gosh, since 2019 it's been going on six years now. That's crazy. It's crazy.

I think it's because you said at the beginning. James Charles is the victim in every single situation. I don't know who he is. Well, he is the victim. You kind of, okay, Nostradamus over there. Yeah, what was I talking about?

I don't even remember. I don't remember either. I do remember. Do you remember that time? I remember that time. I was like at the recording studio and I was like going outside like screaming into my headphones over James Charles. God, what was it?

I think it was with the D'Amelios. He somehow inserted himself into that hole. Oh my God, what was it? Because I was like, how are you the victim every time? And I remember his response. And I just was like, my blood boiled back was it? Because I was like, how are you the victim every time? And I remember his response. And I just was like, my blood boiled back then. This little prick. Like, I was so – he was so annoying.

That was in my unhinged days for sure. But also, like, I don't know what that was. It's so funny. Well, clocked it back. You know, just as time passes, I think the internet starts to realize, like, Trisha was writing out a lot of things maybe my delivery wasn't there and so people didn't believe me that's why i'm trying to be calmer these days assess how i feel about something i do try to watch myself anymore i don't

want to get too crazy yeah but it is frustrating like watching kayla's tiktoks i don't know why it makes me so mad like i think just because kayla's been through so much like this should be like the last thing she has to deal with and the fact that she does have to deal with it and the fact that she's still kind of getting gaslit to even after all this by this man i'm like and then the internet being somewhat on his side too you're just like what like oh yeah he was also a victim what like yeah and obviously of course in comparison to her partner beating her versus like james charles yes of course he's not james is not as bad as evan but it doesn't mean he gets a free

pass just because he's not as terrible as this other guy huh people like to it's crazy i don't i just don't understand i don't i know i mean i wish more people would just block him i think over time we do see people the bad apples tend to fall you know a little bit i think the apple don't fall far from the tree is that charlie xx yeah split the apple by symmetrical lines he's the next apple girl kind of scary it makes me just want to drive away from james charles oh maybe he'll be the next apple dance i hope what if he popped up on the screen at a brat show or at his charlie xx show just want to drive away from James Charles. Is that what he says? Oh. Maybe he'll be the next Apple Dance. I hope not. What if he popped up on the screen at a brat show or at a Charlie XCX show? I think the angels would.

I think the angels would. Boo? Yeah, I do. I think it would be tomato. Yeah. Not to trigger you, but tomato. I know. That does trigger.

Tomatoes are real. Charlie XCX is like following me on tour because she was, she was in Milwaukee, what was I, not Milwaukee, she was in Minnesota, Minneapolis, like,

well actually I'm following her. She was in Minneapolis the day before me. She was just in Austin I think the week before me. Like she's, I'm following her. Closing her tour.

People love Charlie XCX. We have a, we have a fan base that crosses a lot because at my shows people always have like green from the day before oh really yeah green hair green nails like i just saw charlie xx so i think we have a lot of crossover oh wow okay then you have to do some hyper pop to to keep the angels fed hyper pop oh like that yeah this is like yeah like very pop a little auto-tune in there. I never use autotune. Pure vocals, yeah.

I'm against it. Well, what a note to end. I was going to say something at the very beginning of that. Oh, you mentioned cutie Cinderella. She is making Elvis' birthday cake. Oh, she is making the cake. Yes. Oh, my God.

That's everything. And I was like, let me know how I can PayPal her value. And she's like, it's on the house. Wow. I know. I was like, girl, are you sure? She is so sweet. I love her. She's so sweet. Well, I don't always share the house. Wow. I know. I was like, girl, are you sure? She is so sweet. I love her.

She's so sweet. Well, I don't always check my Twitter DMs. I don't really see them. Like, no one ever does. It's like you were most of the time. I never look at mine.

Yeah, I didn't see hers and she actually followed up and I was like, yes, if you still can. And so she's bringing it on Saturday. That is so fierce. I hope she brings it.

I hope she brings it. I don't know if she is or her assistant, but I was very excited. I cannot wait to see it. So thank you, Cutie Cinderella. Oh, my episode of Wine About It with her is out. Did you like it?

Did you watch it? I haven't watched it yet. I can't watch it because I'm scared to see myself. Also, the angle. The angle is very – it's a wide angle. It's like a sofa. And there was no pillow to hide anything. Who's in the middle?

Maya. It's like Cutie, Maya, and then me at the end. Oh, okay. At least you're not in the middle. At least I'm not in the middle maya my uh it's like cutie uh maya and then me at the end but at least you're not in the middle at least i'm not in the middle yeah but still it was like a little side profile moment full body i was like oh yes it's like the canceled setup kind of yeah a little bit like that every time i'm on that side yeah i'm just huge close to the camera i'm just like okay but i will say when i did the julia fox and nikki takashi when i was like, oh, okay. But I will say when I did the Julia Fox and Nikki Takashi one, I was like in the middle and I also looked huge. Screw it either way, I guess. Brooke has the best seat on camera.

Well, I guess they changed it now, but on the original one, she's like in the middle background. Yes. And then you look even team tinier. Because you're further away from the camera. Yeah. So you have to pick the seats next time. Team, yeah.

But I do, it's like all big famous YouTubers and streamers and then Oscar from Just Trish so you have to go watch it I'll be buying views if I have to no go watch it you can make it

the number one on wine yeah I'm gonna be Ted Nivison it's called Wine and what? Wine About It I love the name yeah

go see one is Ted's episode up too? it was yeah Ted was the week before me so who's winning? I'm scared to check but I hope me I'm like this thing it's me yes i

need to be a ted i'd like to check sometimes i think oh mine's gonna crush it sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't sometimes i really crushed it and then sometimes like oh no flop a lot better yeah my rain wilson when i check sometimes like oh i did better than brian cranston who was right before me so yeah see so i need i need to have that feeling with ted i need to be ted and then i don't also for the dominance thing i so yeah see so I need I need to have that feeling with Ted I need to be Ted and then also for the dominance thing I want Ted

to be like damn I need to come back to Judge Trish because it's where it's at you gotta schedule that yes there's there's lots of I have a lot of guests

I gotta schedule I know there's a lot I'll do it I think tomorrow I have time so I have to like schedule glam

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