Just Trish - Natalie Noel & David Dobrik Are WORSE Than We Thought... (Jeff Wittek Lawsuit Update)

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Trisha Paytas feels comfortable using legal jargon in everyday life--which is why she's breaking down the latest updates in Jeff Wittek's lawsuit against David Dobrik. And it looks like David's former... assistant, Natalie Noel, is more dubious than we thought. Plus, we discuss even more dastardly men as controversy surrounds One Direction member Liam Payne and disgraced streamer Jack Doherty. And Trisha tries Dua Lipa's viral Diet Coke recipe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:20 Like, do they not know the law? Because you imagine, like I just have someone working for me and I'm like, well, I i tagged you so that's your payment her name is she's got the fish and all the gossips filthy rich pretty and pink hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks She's just strange Happy Halloween! Or October, or spooky season, or however you like to call it We are back with a super episode today
Starting point is 00:00:59 It's a super episode! I want Jimmy to do effects on me You know what I'm talking about? The voice. Wait, really? Yeah, thank you. It's explosive. Who said that?
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Starting point is 00:02:00 Stay for them. They're great. And Patreon. Patreon.com slash Just trish we love you guys um there's headshots there's stickers um but most importantly we played dress to impress for the first time this weekend and then we also filmed videos with our editor jimmy the jimmy debut the jimmy debut who's really a main character at this point of the podcast and he did not disappoint no he did i was watching some back some of the footage and i was just like
Starting point is 00:02:23 he has the gift of gab. He really is. So good. He's a good talker. He should have like a podcast where he just talks for five hours. Well, I guess that's his streams on Twitch. Oh, T. Find him on Twitch.
Starting point is 00:02:34 He has his whatsees, I think they're called, right? Whatsees? I like it. It's whatsees. Whatsees. He's never had a whatsel pretzel. Did you know that? That's shocking.
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Starting point is 00:03:11 Gets you plenty of time for your trick-or-treat desires. Put some candy in that bag and have a treat. Or a trick. Or a trick. Put some tricks up on it. Oh, like a cereal?
Starting point is 00:03:22 I thought you meant like a trick on the street. Like, ooh, turn a trick. I don't know what I'm thinking about. It's like, put a trick in there. I was thinking like,
Starting point is 00:03:27 you know, the little like paper, the finger chop things, like those kind of tricks. You know, like stick some fingers in there. Oh my God, that sounds terrifying.
Starting point is 00:03:35 What happens if you actually get stuck in there? Can't you just cut it out or no? Oh, really? But if your fingers are touching, where do you cut it?
Starting point is 00:03:40 That's true. That would scare me. Fear unlocked. Yeah. Actually, I feel like my fingers like swell up really easily, i'm sure and i was already chunky so i'm sure my fingers got stuck in it no whenever i put my ring on sometimes it like does not come off because it's weird how your fingers fluctuate because sometimes it's so skinny where it's like sliding off sometimes it's so chunky i wonder why that is that is so life though right i feel like that's
Starting point is 00:04:01 like our whole bodies in general yeah we. We love a bloated body. But that's the famous water weight. Yeah. Right, right. The water weight is where it's at. You look great. Talk about body is tea. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Oscar is giving more than Ryan Reynolds, that's for sure. I was like, okay. Okay, body is tea. Mama, there's a Deadpool behind you. I don't know if I used that right, but I see that one too. Oh my God. Who's this diva? I love you just slinging out gay phrases.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Is that what it is? It's so fierce. I just see it all over TikTok. I didn't know it was gay, but I love it even more. No, I love all this. Oh my God. Yeah, what a journey it was. I really feel for you now to like the work it takes to get into costume.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Like my boyfriend, I don't know. Shout out to him. He's the gay of the day, I would say. Gay of the day. Yeah, he saved the day because he was like really corseting me in, pulling it in, getting that zipper up. And somehow, by the grace of God, it happened. It looks good. If it's not, if you don't squeeze into it, it doesn't look right.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Otherwise, it looks just too big or something. Yeah, so you really do have to. I think Mariah Carey was like sewn into her dresses. That's fierce. Because you just want it to look as tight as possible. And it it delivered by the way found out oscar's boyfriend has a name this weekend oh yeah darian i realized i was like did you know that never heard it he's like i'm gonna give this to darian like who's darian because jimmy has met darian so i like referenced i just called him by his name and then you were so shocked and i was like you know what it's been a
Starting point is 00:05:22 year and i don't think i've ever said his name on the podcast. So shout out Darian. Shout out Darian. Gay of the day. We love it. Super gay of the day. Yeah, super gay. Super gay of the day. We love super gay everything.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I love that. You look fierce. And this was a custom you got. Not a custom, but. Oh, it looks like it. I put it on my cosplay site. Oh, cosplay site. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But yeah, it definitely was a journey. But I feel good and i feel like super i really do but we're not doing our dance i would practice and you're like i was practicing while you were upstairs i think i can do it i was worried about my mobility but i think i got it um you've been so it's a cat's eye dance for context by the way cat's eye is a girl group um as much context as possible. We got the note. Yeah, they have a song called Touch, and they have a dance challenge.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Bretman Rock just did it, so it's like, obviously, it's popping. You've been so out of touch, touch, touch, touch, touch. I thought about you way too much, much, much, much, much. And then there's one that's a dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. And then it's, wait, can I have my love, but you've been so out of touch. Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah. I've been practicing, though.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah, I have been, too. That's why I was like, I thought we were doing it today. No, we have to do it, I think. I was practicing. I think I do got it. I'm more mobile than I thought, to be honest. Like, I thought I really couldn't move, but there's some movement in here. You feel okay?
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah. Okay, you look great. But I know, I mean mean cosplay is no easy feat that's why i do casual day sometimes yeah sometimes i just want to wear a t-shirt unless you're skinny i fear and then a cosplay is so easy i was thinking about that as i was getting dressed i'm like imagine being so skinny you just slip it on and you could freaking do backflips and stuff yeah having no rolls where you just sit and it's just like as straight as it was like that's actually the td. So the skinny privilege really comes out
Starting point is 00:07:06 in Halloween time, I fear. Oh my God. What can you do? Skinny privilege everywhere. We can talk about the skinny privilege later. Let's go on to Doctor Who or Doctor Strange. I keep getting it mixed up. First of all, he looked like Superman to me.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I thought it was Superman, which I love. But you're Doctor Strange. You love all the doctors because you love Doctor Who too. So I get it mixed up. Yeah, that's true. Okay. So you, this, okay, I did get him one like yours.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Like I did try to go for like the luxury cosplay one. But it took like literally six weeks. And I emailed them like two weeks ago and they're like, it's not going to be ready by then. And I was like, I thought these were just like ready to go, like ready to ship. Especially because he has a very standard size. But I did order it. It's going to come. I guess you could be him later on in another one.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But you know what? Not bad for Amazon. I wish we had an Amazon affiliate link for this because it looks actually pretty good on you. It's pretty good. And I can actually wear it. So that's already a plus. Well, you were complaining. You said it was a little hot.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yeah, it's like it's a full suit. Even the feet are encased in it. It's like baby onesies. It looks comfy. To me, it looks comfy. But you said you were warm. Very warm. Yeah, now it's better because we're not running around.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Between you with the full, you have like a pleather. I have a wig. It's like it's a hot day in here. around between you with the full you have like a pleather I have a wig it's like it's a hot day in here it's a hot day in October in this podcast studio but I think it looks
Starting point is 00:08:10 great on you I think you you encompass the character we always saw him in the Superman movie or which one did we see Spider-Man movie
Starting point is 00:08:16 we saw him in we saw him in that he was kind of he was kind of he didn't give much but maybe I'm missing something well he has his own movie
Starting point is 00:08:22 so that's where he gives it what's his oh that's where he's giving and what's he giving what's his super do you know ah I'm gonna be Stanley here, he has his own movie, so that's where he gives it. What's his, oh, that's where he's giving? And what's he giving? What's his super, do you know, ah, I'm going to be Stanley here for a minute. What's your superpower?
Starting point is 00:08:31 It seems to be like going between parallel universes and dimensions. It kind of makes a circle, and it cuts a hole and you can jump through. Oh, you can go through parallel universes? That's sick. The multiverse. So it's kind of like with his hands. He does a lot of things with his hands.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That's why he was in that Spider-Man with all the Spider-Mans? Yes. Sick, I like it. That's actually pretty hands. He does a lot of things with his hands. That's why he was in that Spider-Man with all the Spider-Mans? Yes. Sick. I like it. That's actually pretty sick. That's a cool superhero. My biggest superpower is also my cup of the day.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Oh, yeah. Oh, the new cup. Yeah. Finally, I've attempted to get him this cup. Well, I can never save. His birthday's at the end of the month, and I can never save things for his birthday. So I'm like, here, here's your cup. But I didn't know it was a big hit on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I would have saved it for the birthday. No, I wouldn't wait a day. It's so pretty. Now there's another month that I get to have it. Did you put water in it or you just have it for prettiness? For prettiness. I'm kind of a person that treasures things. You can put it in your water museum. It can take me a minute before I use it.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I like it. It looks cool. It's so blinky. It's just so pretty. Well, I just thought it went good with the bling cup. So I was like, you know the his and her bling cup. You know what I mean? You're not on the bling train, right? You don't love bling. I do, but I'm kind of similar to Moses where I'm scared to use, like, carry anything around that's, like, bling.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Really? They're so sturdy. I know, but I just, like, I am a collector of sorts and it's, like, hard for me to use things that are, like, valuable or priceless to me, you know? I used to be like that, but then I'm like, what if you die tomorrow? You might as well use the bliceless to me you know i used to be like that but then i'm like what if you die tomorrow you might as well use the blink up yeah i used to be like i used to save stickers as a kid and now i don't know where any of those are do you you know where your sticker collection is really what do you do with them um admire them from time to time
Starting point is 00:09:57 you do i i'm like oh collect like since i was a little kid like everything i collected as a little kid i still have. Wow. Yeah. Well, I guess because your parents lived in the same house. True. It makes it really easy. Yeah. Like, it never lost in a move. Yeah. Because it's just in the same spot I left it like 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:10:11 My parents just threw it out every time. We moved – my mom moved at least like probably 10 times my whole like school career. And then my dad probably moved like three times and don't know where any of my shit is. I know. I just think one day our kids will like, you know, find their stuff. They're like, oh my god these are stickers from the 80s of something and they'll be like they'll find the value in them that we
Starting point is 00:10:31 think it has or somebody will steal them in your move because that happened to my dad he had papers from when JFK was assassinated and he's like these are gonna be worth money I'm gonna save for my kids and he said it got stolen in a move oh he saved it for a very long time but he's like I don't know where they went I was like all right t on that but we're all marvel superheroes shout out marvel yeah limelight is basically a marvel right i definitely am if i'm stanley dark horse right i'm pretty sure yes well yes kind of sort of yeah you're one of the more like rare it's hard to find any material you know what i mean like you're actually has more value because it's so rare right i'm a rare superhero that's very true my hair was giving i thought a little bit joker a little like the original joker like the one not original the one with suicide squad
Starting point is 00:11:12 that joker is giving that joker yeah yeah triggered i feel like he's like a cult leader now so i think is that also jt from city girls she has this one where she has like a green wig and i'm like always want to cosplay her because like i've talked about having her come on i've talked to her manager but she's like so busy and i always thought if she came on i has like a green wig and I'm like always want to cosplay her. It's like I've talked about having her come on. I've talked to her manager, but she's like so busy. And I always thought if she came on, I'd wear this green wig. But she may never come on. So I'm wearing it now as limelight 2.0 and then pink, of course, to go with the thing. But yeah, I really wish I could be a superhero again.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I wish I could go back on that show and, you know, know my superpowers. But Stanley is no longer with us. So I don't know if that's possible. R.I.P. Maybe, you know, they love a reboot, though. You never know. Of the show or just like. Of the show. Yeah. Maybe, you know, they love a reboot, though. You never know. Of the show, or just like... Of the show, yeah. I love it.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I would love a second chance at it. Me and Fat Mama. We should have had Mama on today's episode. You know her, right? Oh, yeah, that's true. I do know her. Is her name Nell? Her... Allison. Oh, Allison Nell? I don't know her life. We should have had Fat Mama on. She would have brought the donuts today. That would have been
Starting point is 00:12:04 so much fun. But I'm excited. It's Halloween season and we're going off – we're starting off with a bang, I feel. I know. And we still have so many weeks left. It's actually overwhelming, especially because we have so many hot topics. We only have one day that we have a guest. But, like, we have so many hot topics and I was just thinking, like, oh, my God, I'm kind of overwhelmed by all of it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, because we kind of have to serve every episode now. I know. We set the bar high. We really, really do. And then our final one, we have now a total of seven people from the Jets Trish crew are going to be in costume. My sister was very excited about the Hunger Games.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I love that. I was going to keep it as a surprise, but I gave her a list. I even showed pictures. I sent pictures to them of a list of characters you can have to pick. And my sister was like, I think I'm going to go with Haymitch.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I was like, that's not what I've been saying. I love Haymitch. I was like, that's what I've been saying. I love Haymitch. I was like, that's kind of everything. I was like, kind of love that she picked that. Like, a plethora of people she could have picked from. Who's the girl from Catching Fire we didn't know? Joanna Mason. Joanna Mason.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I loved her outfit in the poster. She's obviously significant enough. She had her own Catching Fire poster. Oh, yeah. She's fierce. Yeah. Her, Rachel Zegler, I thought she might pick. But she went with Haymitch.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I'm like, all right, team. I feel like she would really serve. It would, but she went with Haymitch. I'm like, all right, team. I feel like she would really serve. It would be like a slay Haymitch. You know what I mean? Oh, I think so, too. I think she's going to come with lashes. Yeah. So I've got to figure out the whole arrangement.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But I think we got it. And yeah, we have a really good Sinna outfit. He picked out one you wouldn't expect. So I'm very excited. I'm very excited for this Halloween season. But it is overwhelming. Plus, we have family costumes we have two family costumes
Starting point is 00:13:27 we should do a custom competition when everyone is here I don't know if the audience decides or how would that how would that work as audience
Starting point is 00:13:35 we're already done filming when we are in this the comments or something we gotta figure out a way or the following week we announce the winners
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Starting point is 00:14:19 And then also it's kind of nepotism, right? Everyone's just like, Trish, you win. Kind of like Dress to Impress, where everyone's giving me five stars. Yeah, I don't want that. Even though i would have loved that but i yeah we have like best uh oh like superlatives oh yeah you know best photographer costume best co-host best interpretation that would actually be I'm actually very impressed that everybody is getting their own pieces because I literally
Starting point is 00:14:46 offered to every single person I was just like let me help you let me help and everyone's just like I can manage I was like okay damn
Starting point is 00:14:51 it's even cooler I can't wait to see what everyone comes up with because I was like no but I can like slay a cosplay but I like that everyone's coming up
Starting point is 00:14:57 with their own thing I think it's going to be really cool you have pickles on there is that a snack or is that like a promotion oh I won't give it away
Starting point is 00:15:04 I won't give it away I was just like so confused I'm like I've never seen pickles down snack or is that like a promotion oh i was just like so confused i'm like i've never seen pickles down there oh is there like a tasting contest we're having it's not it's not a contest i mean that is a good segue into the hot topic i was i'm so i all of a sudden i just saw a whole little yeah it was a little gag honestly as i was prepping this gag i was like it's kind of giving like today's show. It's kind of giving like Hoda. And I was like, oh, perfect, because you want to be Hoda. But then also, I saw this morning, Hoda did it this morning. So I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:15:34 How did my mind did I just like think? Wait, is it a trend? It's a trend. Okay, so. I thought you came up with it as like, whoa. You're feeding her the ideas. So, you know, you're aware of Dua Lipa. I love Dua Lipa. The mermaid and Barbie.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yes, yes, yes, yes. So she went viral over the weekend for her spicy diet Coke recipe. It sounds sinister for sure. And it's always the prettiest girls that drink the most like sinister drinks, I fear. Like she went viral before for her little recipes because she had like an olive oil ice cream concoction. Oh, she started that? I remember that one. Yes. So this is not the first time she's had a oil ice cream concoction. Oh, she started that? I remember that one. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So this is not the first time she's had a viral little food concoction. But this one, she posted a TikTok in Austin where she was in town for the Austin City Limits Music Festival. And she stopped by a little barbecue restaurant and documented her little Diet Coke recipe. So it starts with a cup of ice um and then obviously diet coke and then this is where it gets a little dubious she adds in pickle juice and a few slices of pickles fell in as she was adding the pickle juice and she kind of just rolled with it which is sick because you know how we feel about pickles you You love them? Oh, no, you hate them too. No, I hate them too.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Why are we doing this? I'd rather do like this. Everyone's going to be sick. The problem is that if she's going to smell like pickle for the whole episode, she's going to be like. Oh, my God. Pickle is the most nauseating. Remember even for ASMR I tried and I was like gagging. I cut so much of it.
Starting point is 00:16:58 It's like literally the craziest taste. Well, it gets a little bit worse. Oh, no. I can't do it again. The next part to add the spice spice she adds jalapeno juice and again some jalapenos fell in it seemed by accident she seemed a little shocked when the jalapenos fell in but again she like went with it and um she said that there was people looking at her in the restaurant like what the hell are you doing dua and then all the comments too were like
Starting point is 00:17:22 girl what is this she had pickles in the restaurant? How did you get pickles? Oh, I guess she just had pickles? Pickle juice? I guess she's Dua Lipa. She says, can I have a jar of pickles? And they're like, yes. Yes, Dua. And she's just getting the juice out of it. I hope she bought the whole jar. Because that's wild to send it back. Add it to the tab, at least. Okay. She probably paid for it.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah, I think she can afford a jar of pickles if we can. They're expensive these days, though. Inflation is crazy. I was like, it would she can afford a jar of pickles if we can. They're expensive these days, though. Inflation is crazy. So I was like, it would be kind of a gag to try it, right? It is giving daytime talk show vibes. Yeah, let's do it. If Hoda does it, we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I thought that was a good sell. I was like, let me market it like it's something Hoda would do. And she did. And she did. Love. I'm aiming for that Hoda position. I would love to. So do you want me to
Starting point is 00:18:05 mix it? Put it together? Only because also it looks like you can't move. My mobility is... Thanks, Moses. He's bartender and props. This is a bartending table. Watch what happens live.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It is going to be watch what happens live. Moses is the bartender and his doctor. I kind of live with like the cape. Yeah. Don't put any in mine. Hide the cape. Just kidding. I will try it out.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It's kind of fun. Jimmy should make this a clip for TikTok. Ew. But also booze. She can make sure select. You went with the fancy? Oh, it was the cheapest
Starting point is 00:18:38 on Vaughn. Really? She didn't use a spoon. She just poured it in there. He said the juice. Yeah. So you gotta just try and aim for the juice okay i love all the colors wow it's the colors of our iphones we love that shout out the new iphone 16 plus who invented the new iphone
Starting point is 00:18:57 oh my god i'm actually so excited to try it if duolingo likes it and if hoda's doing it i really gotta aim for that position. Do you think they need experience to be on that show? Probably a little bit, but you probably have more experience than most. Right? You hosted 120 episodes now. Do you think I can put that on my resume for that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Most of them get the experience on the show. You think Al Roker just started fresh? I remember Jimmy Kimmel was horrible when he started. he was still is how can you get a show honestly you know what i mean like he's just kind of awful but oh which one was that that was pickled it's like neon yellow green oh my gosh i'm so scared when did we become this show we're like i know when i was ordering it i was like is she gonna be down for this gosh i'm so scared when did we become this show we're like fear factor all of a sudden i know when i was ordering it i was like is she gonna be down for this but i'm like if i show up with the pickles there's no going back you know you put in the effort this is some real producer
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Starting point is 00:21:41 Oh my God, I do not need a tall glass. This is better because it's more cool. Right, dilute it. I was supposed to mix it. This is better because it's more cold. Right. Dilute it. Are we supposed to mix it? Did she mix it? You better. Cheers. Cheers over there.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Oh, you look good with the black. Oh, everyone matches. They're okay. Oh, tea. Thank you. I love it. Okay. So we mix it up?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Oh, it even smells. I'm scared. Did you do it? I think mine's diluted enough. It's not bad. Oh, it's pickly. It's pickly. That is pickly.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Do you think? I'm not gagging. I like these more jalapeno. That is pickly. I see how in a world someone can find it like a nice mix on a mix on a diet coke that's what i'm saying it kind of gives me like diet coke lime kind of yeah i don't mind it tastes like i'm at a ballpark eating that he's like leave he's like i'm gonna go throw it out multiverse out of here i wish jimmy could multiverse that'd be so sick jimmy superpowers on this one um it's giving like
Starting point is 00:22:43 nachos at a baseball game and then i took a swig of Coke while I had it in my mouth. And you still had, yeah. Yeah. That's where I get that. I definitely get that. Do I love it? No, but I don't hate it. Actually, I hate it.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Ew, and the yellow juice is looking like pee. I actually really hate it. I don't hate, but I'm definitely not drinking the rest. Sorry, this is all chaotic. Oh my gosh. Well, what did Hoda say? Oh, let's see. Let me see what she... Was she like... I mean, honestly, she's my new hero.
Starting point is 00:23:12 She's my superhero. Yeah, she's my superhero. It was Ellen last week. It's Hoda this week. I think we can wrap the show up here, actually. That's our show. That's it. This is fun. You're a very good producer. You should have done more of this with Joey you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:23:26 that would have been so fun like you guys in superheroes testing pickle juice bye woo Joey just constantly brought up we also want Joey to be Finnick
Starting point is 00:23:34 Finnick his dream of being Finnick Joey do you want to come on but it's kind of a chaotic episode because there's seven people going to be here so it might be crazy but
Starting point is 00:23:40 he does have a Finnick costume I'm sure ready to go the pumpkin back i think his finnick costume was just like him shirtless with like a little net oh really i think so is that i guess so yeah i love it that's cute it's a it's a serve for sure okay so i'm description i'm the hoda and you're the jenna bush hager because she in this circumstance no hoda hated it and then jenna didn't really taste the pickles she tasted more jalapeno oh it's kind of like the dress like who sees the white and the gold versus the blue
Starting point is 00:24:16 black wait is jenna bush a co-host oh my god is she a co-host she's with it's hoda and jenna oh oh right yeah she's like more like liberal these days? I don't know. I don't know either. Jenna Bush. Isn't that like George W. Bush's like daughter? Daughter, yeah. Oh, that's wild.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Maybe I can't host it. It's like Fox News all of a sudden over there. Wild. Okay. Interesting choice from Kathy Lee to Jenna. To Jenna, yeah. Maybe she's more like liberal than we think with her views or something. Or maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:43 It's pretty wild. Yeah. To have Elizabeth Haslack co-host with Hoda or something. Yeah, back in the day. I feel like in the George W. Bush era, like, it was not as like intense political lines as it is these days. Now we're like, that wasn't that bad. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Bring it back. I know nothing. I don't know. I literally am just going with it. But that's wild. Okay. Well, I don't think I'm going to get that job then. Just in general. You never know. No, well, I don't think I'm going to get that job then. Just in general.
Starting point is 00:25:06 You never know. No, yeah. I don't think so. Well, that's interesting. Yeah, it's kind of like seeing how you see things. It's like, what are those things called? Like optical illusions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Where you would see a woman's face or you would see a couple kissing or something like that. And I guess everyone's palates are different, right? Yeah. As far as what we taste. You know how some people, cilantro tastes like soap and then... No, I never had cilantro. What? You've never heard this?
Starting point is 00:25:33 There's people that cannot have this tiny piece of cilantro and they'll throw the whole food away. Have I had cilantro? Have I had it? Where would it be on? Yeah, we've used it. Mexican food? With nachos, huh? With many things we've used it, yeah. Like the little one? I think I like it. Do you like it? No.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It tastes like soap to me. Maybe you just have a really picky taste. More than me even because the fact that you're like, nope, I hate it. I'm like, I didn't hate it. But maybe I had more Diet Coke than you. Maybe I was more diluted. That's wild. Maybe you're more picky than me.
Starting point is 00:25:57 You think? I probably am more picky than you. I think so too. I've never met a more picky eater than me. Like what do you – do you have like a wide range of food you eat? No. I have never met a more picky eater than me. Like, what do you, do you have, like, a wide range of food you eat? No. I have, like, a very basic. It's, like, chicken, um, chicken, rice.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Really? Some vegetables. Not a lot. Wow. You eat pizza? Yeah. No, you have chicken. But plain pizza.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah, but that's a variety. I'm trying to think of your. Yeah, variety. You don't do sushi. No sushi. At all? I don't, like like i don't eat any fish sea life no feet oh wow for moral reasons or just you don't like the taste um i think it's a texture thing but also like it feels too close to home you know what i mean oh because you own fish yes it's like i don't know I feel the moral responsibility yeah I love it okay save the fish is your standpoint I like that that's cute what about steak you don't eat steak red meat burgers I eat
Starting point is 00:26:52 burgers but I like prefer turkey burgers what I love turkey but I don't like a turkey burger I just really like red meat I don't know oh my god yeah there's some good turkey burgers yeah yeah challenge accepted i can't find one let us know where a good turkey burger is that's wild oh my gosh i just can't get over jenna bush hosting like she can't have any experience hosting can she does she probably not before she got the job i don't think maybe she did like correspondent work or something i don't't know. High nepotism, huh? Well. You think? I feel like having a dad who's a former president goes a long way.
Starting point is 00:27:30 That's wild. And his dad. And his dad. Oh, God, gee. I mean, they're, like, the most, I mean, one of the biggest family in America. I think this is where I might just have a little problem with nepotism, just in this sense. Because it's like, okay, I get, like, following in your, like, father's footsteps, right? Like, Johnny Depp, Lily Rose Depp.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Okay, you're following in the family business but like i get it she went into politics but like going into like the today show that's so random you're like my dad's the president i can have anything i want i'm gonna do the today show like with hoda the fourth hour you know it's kind of random usually the the grandkids ends up like in the arts who else who are the grandkid of a celebrity? In general, like people that like are rich businessmen or rich politicians or royalty, like the younger ones
Starting point is 00:28:09 end up in the creative field. Like Malia and Sasha Obama are kind of in the arts, I think. What do they do? I think one of them is acting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I think they go to film school and stuff, yeah. More power. Isn't Bush, he paints, right? He gives paintings to people does he George W. Bush does
Starting point is 00:28:27 Jimmy Jimmy insert insert some of his paintings well Call Her Daddy had Kamala Harris on this week
Starting point is 00:28:34 we're gonna have George W. Bush next week I mean the war he had was not oh right TTT
Starting point is 00:28:41 alright well nevermind let's just stay out of it I saw Call Her daddy a Kamala. Well, we haven't seen it yet. It probably comes out tonight or something, right? I saw clips already. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 00:28:49 Yeah, there's clips. Did she look fierce? What's she wearing? Kamala? Yeah. She looked really good. And then Alex Cooper loved that girl in a hoodie. I can't stand it.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Can't stand it. It's actually wild. It's actually wild. Like, even if that's your whole shtick, right? Like, you're meeting, like, the vice president of the United States. Like, how are you not? A blazer. Yeah, a blazer.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Blazer with some sweatpants. Put a hoodie under the blazer. Whatever it takes. Honestly. Right? A blazer over the hoodie could have been kind of fierce. Like, a mix of the brands. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. That could have slayed. Because I bet Kamala was in a pantsuit. Yeah, she looked, like, really good. It was, like, her top was kind of, like, structured. It was fierce. I'm not going to lie. And then, yeah, Alex Cooper.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I mean, she's sticking to her guns, you know? She's like, I'm wearing sweat. I did a Kamala cosplay in 2020. Did you ever show it? I still have the jacket upstairs. It cost me $10,000. What? And I could never wear it because, okay, you know I love everything bling.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Well, Kamala wore for Pride in 2020. Do you know which one? No. The rainbow. Okay, I have it upstairs. We honestly should get it because it's actually crazy to try to put on. It's up in my green closet. Maybe by the end of the episode we'll go run up and get it.
Starting point is 00:29:57 But it's literally like this denim jacket and it's blinged. The rainbow flag is – it goes with my rainbow working, actually. And it's a bling rainbow flag denim jacket and i was so obsessed with it when she came out with it i got it made i had to pay ten thousand dollars to get it made because it was like so many crystals the problem is it was so many crystals like it's stiff like you you have to like you can't even put your arms in it it's like solid it's solid blue or something i don't know what happened and i was like what I don't know. It's still iconic.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I remember when you got it. And I was so excited to wear it. And then I couldn't wear it. I remember. I was like, wait a minute. Something is wrong here. It's just so stiff. If we don't do it now, I'll just go to B-roll.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But it looks. I was the original cosplayer of Kamala's sound. I was ready to wear it when she came on, honestly. But I guess. Call her daddy gets Katy Perry over me. I did the music video. How was I? Plus, she has so much money. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:48 $180 million, $60 million. But she also interviewed you. So you, Katy Perry, Kamala Harris, you're on the other side of the microphone. And Chris Olsen. I mean, shout out. Love Island. Which, again, love. Honored. Happy to be involved. Well, you know how it is to get guests.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You need to fill in the dates but i'm saying that not us we do quality here that's why we haven't had one in a while i like chris olsen though that's t honestly i prefer chris olsen over kamala harry well no equal chris olsen over love island we'll say that yeah yeah i wouldn't know what to ask like i was looking at the questions and i was like oh my god like she was asking already like the one question i saw was so in depth and I don't even know what it was. It went well, I think. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Like she was asking really like specific questions. And usually sometimes they like really dog on Alex's like interview skills I found. But like the reception I've seen so far was like all really positive. So yeah, she's like people are scared to have kids because it's so expensive. Like what are you gonna do about it? And then they cut it off. And I was like, oh, I wouldn't know what they're going to do about it. Because that's the tea of it.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah. They'll probably send you the questions. You know what I mean? Oh, right, right, right. I did have a guest once that were like, we have to have the questions approved. I was like, they come off the spot. Like, I can't approve these questions. Yeah, I was like, they can cut whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's such a weird request. But I guess if you're the vice president, I guess it's different. How was your weekend? But I think we already went over that oh did you see joker did you end up seeing it oh i did end up seeing joker yes tell me i was gonna see it was a last minute decision last night i was gonna see a different movie but then i ended up saying joke and it was like 8 30 so it was already too late in the game i was gonna see an aubrey plaza movie my old oh yeah um but the title is slave the title is so good um and i think i was swayed to see joker because the hate campaign against it is so fierce and you know what whenever there's a hate campaign i'm
Starting point is 00:32:40 intrigued but you know what i mean i want to like get to the bottom of it. Couldn't care less to see it two weeks ago now. I was like, I need to see it. I was like, what is going on with it? Yeah. But I knew it wasn't going to be for me. And it was not for me. It was confirmed. Yeah. So who is it for?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Because my hairstyle is a Gaga stan. He has Gaga tattooed on him. And he's like hated it. Really? Yeah. He fell asleep. That's what I'm saying. They, like usually you can kind of tell where the hate campaign is coming from
Starting point is 00:33:05 you know like but this one's kind of coming from all ends firing on all cylinders like critics hate it gaga fans hate it and like you know that group of like girlies gays but also like the joker fans like the straight men who wanted to see you know the joker do his thing you know also hated it so it just didn't yeah please anyone um it is a huge flop it allegedly had a budget of 190 million to 200 million but the director todd phillips says has like shot that down but everyone else in the studio has kind of made it seem like it was that much um and it only made less than that he's saying it's less, but I think a lot of people are saying that it is $200 million budget. And it only made $40 million at the domestic box office.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And it was originally projected at $70 million. So it's a huge fall from grace. That's crazy because I feel like everyone on TikTok saw it. They're all like, I hate this movie. So it's like it ends with us. Everyone was so pissed about it, but they went to go see it anyways. But I'm surprised they didn't like it's like it ends with us everyone was so pissed about it but they went to go see it anyways but i'm surprised they didn't make more so it ends with us made more uh well it ends with us as budget was also like a lot smaller i think the opening weekend was around like 30 something for it ends with us but because this is like a big
Starting point is 00:34:17 comic book movie the budget was just humongous um and obviously like a big chunk of that budget went to the talent like joaquin phoenix todd phillips the director and lady gaga but um it also made history as the uh worst um rated cinema score cinema score is like a score that like um they pull people as they exit the movie um and usually cinema scores like are it's hard to get like a bad score really like usually like c is kind of the lowest but um joker got a d cinema score it's the lowest for any comic book movie ever still passing but there's never been an f so oh really now that's the ultimate if you get an f on your movie that's crazy okay well who else was a d list do we know anybody else who had a grade d um another one no this is like the lowest like even madame webb remember the whole oh yeah i That's crazy. Okay. Well, who else was a D-list? Do we know anybody else who had a grade D? Another one.
Starting point is 00:35:05 No, this is like the lowest. Like even Madam Web. Remember the whole. Oh, yeah. That got a C plus. Oh, at least it had Sidney Sweeney's boobs in it. So they're like, we'll watch it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And I feel like when you went into Madam Web, you know what you're getting. Like it looked a mess from the jump and you knew Sidney Sweeney was going to be hot in it. Yeah. You knew Dakota Johnson was going to be Dakota Johnson in it. You know? Yeah. But I think a lot of people with Joker also like they didn't market it as a musical and even though ever like
Starting point is 00:35:31 fans knew it was a musical they would they would still market it as like it's a movie that has musical sequences in it but it's not a musical girl that's a musical was it though like did they bust out in song at random moments or did it make sense because I saw the one where she's like playing at a piano and he's like tap dancing or whatever. And I was like, well, that makes sense if they're in a bar and they're performing. I feel like some musical sequences made sense, but there's too many of them. And a lot of them were like written poorly into it. I think a big problem was just the writing, the editing, the concept. Everything. Everything. Everything except the performances
Starting point is 00:36:07 because there's like the toxic male fan base that's like, they made it a musical because of Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga ruined Joker which is not the case. Like Lady Gaga I mean, the performances are great in it. Lady Gaga in what she is in it is serving down when like she's an actress. You like the songs?
Starting point is 00:36:23 Because Gay Goddard's songs were like, this is not it. I think her acting. Her acting was really, really good. an actress. You like the songs? Because Gate Goddess was like this is not it. I think her acting. Her acting was really, really good. But you don't like the songs? No. But I like her acting. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Well, that's good. That's something. I think her performance is great. I think that there is probably a better movie that is on the cutting room floor somewhere
Starting point is 00:36:42 because they cut so much of her scenes out for some reason. How are people seeing them? Because I saw the cut scene of her on the cutting room floor somewhere because they cut so much of her scenes out for some reason. How are people seeing them? Because I saw the cut scene of her on the stairs singing. So they filmed in downtown LA at the courthouse. So there were so many paparazzi there
Starting point is 00:36:55 because it's LA, you know? Oh, I see. So they got it. Yeah. And that was like last year. So everyone kind of was already anticipating the films. There was like a moment where she's like leaving the courthouse and she's being like all wacky.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And then she talks to this random like woman on the street like who's like in the crowd being like boo, Joker, boo. And then like she goes and she makes out with her and they cut that out. Oh. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. It's so weird. I wonder if it's like they did test audiences and they're like, oh, we don't like this.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Another. This isn't confirmed, but what reports are saying there wasn't even like a test like an audience test screening for it they're like we're just putting this out cold raw dog in it and then they put out the venice film festival and now there's well they give everything over there standing ovation but well now there's all these tiktok to me out with like people trying to read joaquin phoenix and lady gaga's lips because they're talking as they're doing the standing ovation. And people are being crazy, though, because they're saying, like, Joaquin Phoenix, like, oh, yeah, it was terrible and stuff. Like, they're adding all these crazy words.
Starting point is 00:37:54 But it doesn't make sense. And also, like, people in the audience said that Todd, the director, Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix left during the movie because they can't watch themselves act or something and then came back for the end. In this particular movie, they couldn't watch themselves or in general? In general, I guess Joaquin Phoenix doesn't really watch himself. I know when people say that. Like, suck it up. Like, just suck it up. You're the star of the film.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You're going to leave. That's so weird. I don't like it either, but watch it. Like, you're with people there. That's so annoying. So how do you improve your craft if you don't watch it? Let's see. And he's probably perfect.
Starting point is 00:38:24 He won an Academy, or he's nominated for Academy Award winners. Did he win it? He won it for Joker, the first one. Yeah. Oh, that's tragic. Isn't that so sad? Like, that's like, you win an Oscar and everyone's like, this sucks. You win an Oscar, you make a billion dollars on the movie.
Starting point is 00:38:37 That's why poor Lady Gaga, she probably signed on thinking like, yes, this is going to be big. And then it ended up being a chop. But also, like, what is she supposed to say? No we always talk about this. It's like if there's a sequel Joaquin 2 he's probably like give me that money you know what I mean? And if it was hit the first time why not try it again? You know?
Starting point is 00:38:53 If someone asked me to be part of a flop franchise I'd be like yeah I'll do it. You know what's a flop franchise that I would like love to be a part of? That everyone like oh Shazam. I'll be in Shazam 3. I would love to. Only if Rachel Zeigler signs on because I'll be in Shazam 3 I would love to only bring the Zeichler signs on because we would be
Starting point is 00:39:07 in it together She hadn't followed Zachary Levi I believe oh yeah why? the guy from Tangled? so weird
Starting point is 00:39:13 he's kind of a loser wait what? oh my god T he has a lot of bad hot takes wait really? how do people even know what he thinks?
Starting point is 00:39:22 I never even hear anything about him because he uses his platform and not a lot of people follow him so I think that's why literally what do people even know what he thinks i never even hear anything because he uses his platform and not a lot of people follow him so i mean i think that's why literally what do people know him for no no shade no tea but like i'm entangled oh he was in shazam who was he the lead character's name shazam okay i swear there was a shaquille o'neal movie called shazam like jimmy look it up i swear it is I think you're right about that. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:45 When I was a kid. Was he a genie or am I making that up? Okay, period. I think it was Shazam. Is that an app too? The Shazam app? Oh my God, you're so right. Yeah. What is Zachary Levi's hot take?
Starting point is 00:39:54 He's just like. Awful. Yeah, he's kind of just awful. He thinks that he's more talented than he is. He like recently came out. He's like, he came out of some like Trump conference or something, like some campaign thing. And it was like, I'm the only one in Hollywood brave enough to support Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:40:11 It's like, okay, you and Bryce Hall are so brave. Like relax. And then he went on this whole like tirade and then a lot of people unfollowed him that like worked with him before. He's kind of just sucks all around. All right. We'll replace him. Who could replace him?
Starting point is 00:40:24 You. I'm just saying. Yeah. Bryce and Zach Lark replace him. Who could replace him? You. I'm Shazam. Yeah. Rachel Zekler could probably take the lead. Love it. Yes, absolutely. It'd be like the Madame Web of Shazam universe. That would be tea.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Oh, I hate that guy. Okay. I hate it. Yeah, it kind of sucks. But I mean, the concept, yeah, right? Like if you were offered a role, even if it's like a floppy, you know, franchise, you got to kind of go for it. For sure. Because you never know. No, we were talking about, like, a floppy, you know, franchise, you gotta kind of go for it. For sure.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Because you never know. No, we were talking about, like, I think it was on our Patreon extended, Lauren Gray being in that Netflix. Oh, yeah. And her role was getting, like, poop dumped all over her. I was like, honestly, I would take it, too. Like, you know what I mean? Whatever you can get to be in that Netflix movie, I'm gonna take.
Starting point is 00:40:57 So. Yeah. Yeah. Especially Joker, too. If Joker, too, is like, oh, I want you to be. Yeah. Joker 3, put me in. Harley Quinn.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. Yeah, of course. Like, why would you say no? Yeah, exactly. Especially, like, it's, like, hearing the cast, like, before all this kind of happened, like, the idea of Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn in this kind of, like, dark, serious kind of Joker universe, I was like, kind of a slay. And I was sad that it did not end up slaying.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I read the spoilers, and I'm not going to spoil it, but I read the spoilers, and it did sound horrible. Yeah. I was kind of like awful awful way to end a movie yeah it is really sad I mean
Starting point is 00:41:29 they didn't Todd Phillips the director said during the first Joker like press tour that it was a one and done that it was not supposed
Starting point is 00:41:37 to be a sequel but I think you know Warner Brothers came and was like listen I made a billion dollars we gotta make another one
Starting point is 00:41:43 oh Warner Brothers put it out yeah it's a WB movie and it's weird because they've been kind of slaying oh Beetlejuice came and was like, listen, I made a billion dollars. We got to make another one. Oh, Warner Brothers put it out? Yeah, it's a WB movie. And it's weird because they've been kind of slaying lately. Oh, Beetlejuice? Beetlejuice? Yeah. Beetlejuice is the 10th, as of right now, the 10th biggest movie of the year.
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Starting point is 00:43:40 I was hashtag WB invited to that. But not WB partner. Has. But not WB partner. Not WB partner. They should have hashtag WB partner more people for Joker to give good reviews. Because it was. Although I did see some influencers actually on the Joker red carpet hashtag WB partner. So that's like wild. So they're like getting paid to go to those carpets?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah. Look at like a Tara Yummy at Beetlejuice. I don't think she went there just for. Really? I would go there for free. That's crazy. I think that's why. I say you say that you go to all these things for free well i've never been to a premiere and i'm not going to until i get my bed that's actually crazy that they pay people for that because you really don't need promotion for like joker too i saw so
Starting point is 00:44:17 many influencers going for that and i was like do you really need promotion for this movie i know that's what i was kind of thinking too like Like, a Selena Gomez movie, for example. Like, the Amelia Perez. Do they need influencers for that? Do they? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:44:29 But like, even like press opportunities and stuff. I'm like, does Selena Gomez really need to do all these like interviews to Selena Gomez?
Starting point is 00:44:35 But I think maybe because I never heard that movie before you brought it up last time. Okay, maybe so. Because I would agree with you,
Starting point is 00:44:41 but I feel like Joker is like, it's like Beetlejuice. It was just like everywhere. Like Denny's, you know, it's kind of. Or like a Wicked. Like Wicked is literally everywhere, right? Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Like you can't go into a store and not see Wicked. So many launches for Wicked coming up. Like literally everywhere, everything. It's pink and green. Yeah. I kind of love that though. I love pink and green. I'm already Wicked.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Oh my God, yeah. I'm already, that's actually crazy because pink does go good with green. Yeah, that's, I'm excited. Yeah, Target has it. Starbucks, everything is doing W Yeah, Target has it. Starbucks. Everything is doing wicked. I like it. I think it's going to be bigger than Barbie, honestly, because it just seems more – it's something for everyone.
Starting point is 00:45:11 It's not just the Barbie girls, right? You also have the green. You have the Elphaba's of the world. So I feel like – and then you have hot guys like Ethan Slater, Jonathan Bailey, Jeff Goldblum. You have like – I think it's going to be sick. I know. Especially if the Joker flopped. Like it all kind of is up to Wicked to kind of save movies for the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:45:29 There hasn't been a – But not Warner Brothers because it's Universal. It is Universal. So, sorry, Warner Brothers, you flopped. Hashtag no longer WB invited. But you did serve on Beale Drew, so I guess they don't care. Yeah, I don't know. Honestly, like, I mean, it sounds sounds horrible but i still want to see it so
Starting point is 00:45:45 maybe i'll go see it this week i just don't have time i wasn't gonna go see it this weekend it's long too yeah is it how long like two and a half hours i think it's two and a half yeah so it's a commitment i think that's why joaquin fink's didn't promote it he's probably just like this is trash you know like because why didn't he that's so weird it was just lady gaga everywhere so she's like really gonna try and sell it he's like i can't sell this sorry yeah and there was like one interview clip. They did a couple interviews together in the UK randomly. And then there was one where they got asked like, oh, so you saw the film.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Like, what did you think of it? And then they just started laughing. Cool. Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix. Oh, no. They're like. You've seen it. Is it everything you expected?
Starting point is 00:46:25 Tell them how you feel, Joaquin. Well, yeah, like it is. I just feel like they really should have stopped again.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I'm not like a Batman Joker fan, but it seems like everybody wanted it to stop after Heath Ledger. They're just like, that should have ended the Jokers right there.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah, the show kind of has to go on for the Joker because it is such an iconic character and you can't have Batman without Joker,
Starting point is 00:46:44 I guess, but. But there was no Joker in the Robin robin pattinson one right there was barry keoghan oh for like a second yeah and i was like that movie was awful actually so maybe that should have been got barry keoghan as joker i don't like it i you know what you know when you see someone too much now again it's kind of the pedro pascal fact when you see someone so much you're kind of like okay i'm gonna like over it you see jonathan much, you're kind of like, okay, I'm going to go for it. You see Jonathan Bailey a lot. Okay, but that's different. I love how we're never bringing him up, but I do think about him all the time. That's different because he's actually a leading man.
Starting point is 00:47:13 You know what I mean? I think the ones that are scary looking, they just kind of like, you know, like the Joaquin Phoenix. You know, not in a bad way. The character's scary, right? They're scary. Yeah, I see what you mean. You know, very cute.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It's just like, it's a lot to see them so much. Whereas Jonathan Bailey, you can see him as many times as you want because he's just that perfect. Yeah. He's just a perfect little face. But yeah. Barry Keoghan's the greatest actor Sabrina Carpenter knows, she said. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Oh, yeah. In the interview. This is what I want to do, Hoda, because that show that Sabrina Carpenter was on where she's like on the couch next to the girl, you know, the lady. Yeah. What show is this? Is this like an English show or is it an American show? I think it was American.
Starting point is 00:47:44 It was like Sunday morning show. I've never heard of American show I think it was American it was like Sunday morning show I've never heard of it I think it was CBS Sunday I believe oh okay well they were both in all black and the woman was older too I was like
Starting point is 00:47:51 I want to be that older blonde woman interviewing how do I get that position you probably started young huh they probably don't hire old people she probably worked her way up yeah it was the CBS Sunday morning show
Starting point is 00:48:03 so random Sabrina Carpenter was giving like a serious interview. I kind of loved it. And she said, why did you cast him? And he was the greatest actor. I was like, that's kind of a stretch. She's like, I thought of the greatest actor.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Who would I want in my music video? And she said, Barry Keoghan. Didn't she say the greatest actor I know? Who's the greatest actor I know? Yeah. I feel like that's a good qualifier. Oh, like personally? I thought it was just like, who's the greatest actor that I...
Starting point is 00:48:25 I think she meant, like, greatest actor I know. Like, who could I ask? Like, what actor do I know personally that... And then she said that Barry Kogan was in the chair next to her. So she was like... Oh. So, like, one on one. She's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I don't think she's, like, the most prolific actor in the history of cinema. Oh, I was like, that's a crazy statement. I mean, maybe. Maybe he is. I don't know i can't judge acting but i mean i think um who do you think would be the best actor of all time greatest actor um oh like if i had to cast someone for my music video yeah oh that's a good question who would i want i think i would want pedro pascal
Starting point is 00:49:01 i think you say that just to annoy me. Pedro Pascal. What? I feel like he's not booked enough. I feel like Pedro needs to be more. You're full of
Starting point is 00:49:12 There's no way. He is just everywhere. Shove down our throats constantly, all day, every day. Pedro Pascal for real? I kind of do think. I'm trying to think
Starting point is 00:49:23 who else. Like if you did a music video like Ariana did with the guy from You, you would have Patrick Pascal. Oh, like a Penn Badgley moment. Yeah. Who's another actor I really love? Timothee Chalamet for me is the one that I see too much. Like I really wouldn't want Timothee. Really?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Yeah, Timothee. I'm kind of over Timothee. I mean, he has great talent, but I feel like I just see him too much. He's booked a lot. He seems more, I wouldn't want him next to me just likehee. I mean, he has great talent, but I feel like I just see him too much. He's booked a lot. He seems more – I wouldn't want him next to me just like size. Size-wise, yeah. I don't want to say it, but you know. We all know.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Because I just – yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Not that Jonathan Bailey is, you know, like – Actually, I'm going to – Don't you say him. I'm going to say Cooper. Cooper Coach. Oh, he is –
Starting point is 00:50:03 Or Koch. Koch. I don't know. Coach maybe. I don't know. Or Koch. I don't know. Cooper Koch. Oh. Or Koch. Koch. Koch. I don't know. Koch maybe. I don't know. Or Koch. I don't know. Or Koch.
Starting point is 00:50:08 He is fine. Yeah. He's like the new – I feel like the new It Boy. Really? The two boys from the Menendez Netflix show. I think they're – I mean the other one's name is Charlie I think, right? I don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Because both of them are kind of private, right? They're both, like, not on social media. Yeah. Oh, Nicholas. Travis. Nicholas Chavez. Yeah, I always see that name everywhere. They're both, like, all over the place right now.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Like, I think there's a lot of fan edits of them. Really? Like, clips of them. Yeah, they're really popular. But Nicholas is already in the Grotesquery show, the other Ryan Murphy one. So he's doing double duty. He's like, these boys are hot. Let me keep them. Yeah, let me keep them in the Grotesquery show, the other Ryan Murphy one. So he's doing double duty. He's like, these boys are hot.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Let me keep them. That makes sense. You make them stars. You might as well. Yeah. He seems to do that a lot, right? Ryan Murphy uses like the same people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I feel like he has his muses like Sarah Paulson. I love her. She has good everything. Yeah. Oh, Evan Peters has been more. Oh, he's doing that new one with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:02 He did Dahmer. He did a lot of American Horror Stories. Emma Roberts, obviously. She's a queen. Honestly, actually, all those new one with him. Yeah. He did Dahmer. He did a lot of American Horror Stories. Emma Roberts, obviously. She's a queen. Honestly, actually, all those are kind of slays. When I think about like screen queens and American Horror Stories, Emma Roberts kind of slays. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 He has some really good hits, you know, that Ryan Murphy, but. Yeah, he is kind of good, actually. Yeah. He kind of slays. Yeah. He gets people watching. We should not talk bad about him anymore because what if he wants to cast us? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:22 I really do think there's a world where you're cast in a Ryan Murphy project. Like, it just kind of makes sense. Maybe not, no fat people are in his projects though, huh?
Starting point is 00:51:31 Um, I'm trying to think. Who's the other one that's fierce? She was in The Politician season two, season one, Jessica Lange.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Oh, yeah, she was in American Horror Story as well, yeah. I don't think he likes the fannies,
Starting point is 00:51:45 but it's okay. I'll get on that osempic. I think sometimes he thinks of a role for, and he has like a plus size person in mind. Yeah. I don't think. Glee, I suppose. Right. I want to play that girl. What was her name?
Starting point is 00:51:56 The one that Puck liked. Which one? She had glasses and she was a big girl. You don't remember? She was a little bit of a bully maybe. Was she one of the later seasons? No, she was early on. Which one't remember she's a little bit of a bully maybe was she one of the later seasons no she was early on which one is she glasses yeah gosh yeah her and puck dated who and he's saying fat bottom girls to her he's like oh you make the rocking girls go around fat bottom
Starting point is 00:52:19 girls you make that i remember that scene i remember being like that could be me her what was her character she was in it a lot if you see a few episodes at least oh this girl yes what was her name she was a fierce who's this diva literally who is this diva what is that from i have oh i've seen all over for twitter what i see it all over twitter who's this i just I see it all over Twitter. Who is this diva? I just keep seeing it on TikTok. Who is this diva? Mama, a Malibu behind you. Like, they always say these things.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And I'm like, what does that mean? There's a picture of Malibu where she's, like, behind me. And she's, like, straight legs. She has, like, this little, like, emoji behind me. It's so funny. And everyone's like, Mama, a Malibu behind you. But I never know where any of these originate from. I'm just like, her body is tea.
Starting point is 00:53:01 They all sound like RuPaul references. They do. RuPaul's just too dressed to impress because honestly doing the runway was just giving rupal for sure the way we were critiquing everybody i was really mean on just to impress too i brought out the mean side of me the competitive side of the competitive side or just mean i was like nice try i was like so mean to people i don't know why and it was people that liked us too and i was like let me just not mean for no reason just being competitive.
Starting point is 00:53:26 That's what it's all about. It's the competitive spirit. Yeah. I kind of flopped, but people will podium me. But did we find her name or no? We didn't get that much. No, I couldn't find it. Okay, over it.
Starting point is 00:53:34 There was some Dress to Impress Hot Topic that I think you would be happy about. Yeah. So if you guys don't know Dress to Impress, it's a game on Roblox where it is very RuPaul. You get a theme, a category, and you have five minutes to dress according to the theme and to slay so fun actually it actually is so addicting um and like it's a game where it really like you lose a sense of time weirdly like so much time an hour can pass and it feels like five minutes it's crazy it's actually so much fun um but as of right now there was only one body type you can be a man or a woman and you're skinny either way you're like a tiny little girl or you're like a ripped guy but they're adding
Starting point is 00:54:12 new body types and it started like a whole they added all these plus size bodies and they like posted to get feedback and then it started like a whole wave of like fat phobia people saying i'm gonna quit the game i don't play dress you're to be fat blah blah blah well you don't have to be fat exactly it's so crazy it's so much controversy they're like we want a world with no fat we only want skinnies like that is so sad you know i have to say if i'm playing rope uh dress to impress i probably wouldn't put myself in a fat body i think i would always choose skinny too but it's nice to have the option i think Yeah because you know what some people do like
Starting point is 00:54:46 being heavier. You know like some people like that and stuff like that. Honestly I do. I've come to the terms where I feel like I'm maybe like my body like this. See there you go.
Starting point is 00:54:55 You know what I mean because I look at some skinny and I'm like yeah God everyone's so skinny and it looks great but then it's like I don't know. I kind of like the way I look.
Starting point is 00:55:01 T yeah you should. You know what if I look like a crypt keeper or something. You know when you're older like me. I feel like when you're older and you lose a bunch of weight you kind of like the way I look. T, yeah, you should. You know, what if I look like a Crypt Keeper or something? You know when you're older like me? Yeah. I feel like when you're older and you lose a bunch of weight, you kind of look a little scary sometimes.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah, you look sunken in. Yeah. Yeah, but I feel like, like, Nicola, who's, like, older than me, who was on Bridgerton, she looks like she's 20. I always forget her age. She's, like, 37. Yeah, in my head, she literally is 25 or something. Yeah, and I think it's, and again, she's definitely not fat.
Starting point is 00:55:21 She just has a little, like, fullerness in her face, and I just, like, I think it gives her this just nice, and that's, like, what I feel. I don't know. I just want to look young forever. So I'm on the no-Zempic. But I honestly love this. Kudos to them. I saw Heidi Klum also copy them for her game.
Starting point is 00:55:32 She does another game, like, Just to Impress. Really? And she has plus-size bodies in her game now, too. Oh. Yeah. So I guess everyone's doing it. Yeah. I mean, I don't think it hurts anybody to have a plus-size character in there.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I know. And there's always that thing where, like, it promotes obesity. I'm like, it's just, like, I mean, I don't think it hurts anybody to have a plus size character in there. I know. And there's always that thing where like it promotes obesity. I'm like, it's just like normal body types. It's not, people need to get over it. It's really weird. And like in every game, like in Nintendo, like when you make your profile and you make like a version of yourself, like there's little, like a slider so you can be like skinny or like bigger.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I feel like that's in every game. It's so weird that for some reason, dress room pass people like no fat people. Well, bigger. I feel like that's in every game. It's so weird that, for some reason, dressing room pass people, like, no. No fat people. Like, well, you have a blockhead. You don't have a blockhead in real life. Like, that's so weird. I don't want to be, like, the, God, people are just so annoying.
Starting point is 00:56:15 People really are fatphobic. I think, if anything, like, people are, like, super fatphobic. No, for sure. And I feel like the ozempic age makes it even more noticeable because, like, the shift in how people are treated once they get skinny.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And then all those people who are newly found skinny are like, wow, people like me so much better. And then you're like, well, maybe I should be skinny. But I'm like, you know what? People like me just the same. I did see someone and it's someone I like. God, who was it? Someone I like was saying that – oh, we had her on the podcast, Carmelita.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I like her. But her thing was like – she goes, if you want to be rich and famous, you can't fat you have to be i almost commented and be like well i am rich and famous and i'm fat you know what i mean so i think it's possible but i like i think that's her stick her character but i kind of live for it i was kind of like fierce but also like i was gonna be like but i'm fat and rich fat and famous i'd rather be fat and famous than fat and rich what do you think are those my only two options fat and famous or fat and rich yeah oh you think are those my only two options fat and famous or fat and rich yeah oh there's no skinny you want to be skinny and skinny okay all those combinations we can be skinny too so it could be like fat and famous no you have to be fat and famous or fat
Starting point is 00:57:16 and rich the skinny is obviously an option yeah yeah yeah skinny is not an option i would probably fat and rich, I think. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I'd probably be, like, very chapel-coated if I was, like, super famous, I think. You know what I mean? Really?
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, like, don't talk to me. Yeah, I, like, because I don't do well with, like, a lot of attention. Really? Yeah. Okay. Tee. What would you choose? Fat and famous?
Starting point is 00:57:42 Fat and famous. Okay. I always want to be famous and rich. Always. I'd rather just everyone know who I am. It's just so cool when you think about it. what would you would choose not famous not famous I always want to be famous when we're rich always I'd rather just everyone know who I am just so cool when you think about it
Starting point is 00:57:48 like after you like die and people are just like she's great that's true like or but you can be famous for not good things
Starting point is 00:57:55 as well I guess that's true or she's terrible that's true won't know cause you're dead I guess I
Starting point is 00:58:03 I um Justin Press shout out for body inclusivity. We like that. Chapel Roan did sell out, or she did break records again at ATC. Did you see that? ALC. ACL. ACL? Austin City Limits.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Really? Isn't that like what you tear in your ankle in ACL? That's what I thought. ATL, ACL, all the same. same she doesn't care and no one cares that's why that's why i'm saying social media is so stupid because everyone's like chapel's over i can't stand this girl and then literally like just like hundreds of thousands of people come out to see her you know and it's like like i never listen that's why anybody like yapping and talk say like saying all this stuff online it's like no one really cares because those people
Starting point is 00:58:44 are still going out to support her we'll just love to have a loud mouth online yeah i think it's it really depends especially a lot of the like controversy around chapel is like very like centric on twitter and a bit on tiktok like there is a point where it does like cross over into the mainstream and can affect things all like joker like you know something like that it like spreads or whatever but for chapel it like really hasn't because literally acl is it yeah austin city limits right that's crazy yes um she had another record-breaking crowd she was number one on the billboard artist charts last week oh yeah album is number two this week and it's been out for like a year. Yeah. She's still,
Starting point is 00:59:27 yeah, she's still kind of slaying. People love her even more, actually. Yeah. Which, same. It's like, you're making her more famous and people finding out about her music and be like, actually, she slays on music.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Honestly, you're so right. It makes people want to listen to her. So many people. And then people are like, oh, wait, she actually slays. The music hits. Yeah, it slaps. So, couldn't care less
Starting point is 00:59:42 what you're talking about. You know what I mean? It's just actually people being so awful. Should we be on SNL this week or next week? I think next week. I'm excited. I love SNL.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I can't believe we're not SNL for a second. I love SNL. I don't know who hosted this week, but it was still funny. And Ariana's coming on soon on SNL too.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I hope she also does like, you know when the musical acts also like do one skit or something, you know what I mean? Oh, for sure. Oh my God, that'd be so funny. She should do one with Bone Yang. Yeah. she should do one bone yang yeah yeah bowen interviewed her before a magazine oh yeah
Starting point is 01:00:10 she should definitely i think like she would i feel like she's an actress it's actually fun yeah who's her host that with her i don't know oh yeah so she is the musical guest on november 2nd and john mulaney is the host so people will be very normal about that i'm sure oh my god he's not doing his kids yeah yikes it's like when i found out jenna bush co-hosted with hoda that's like no why is it so sad or that at zachary levi and shazam is awful damn people just love you know what the world's gonna disappoint you that's the lesson of today is that your idols will always disappoint you it's not her fault obviously chapels but it's just john lennie i don't know i don't know i think about him he just gives me the egg always i i don't know i didn't know people disliked him so much well i remember hearing like controversy and then i guess i forgot about it because i think he had like a netflix special
Starting point is 01:01:09 or something and then people liked him again but i feel like it kind of ebbs and flows yeah i really can't keep up with that one but also it's like not my like mo you know what i mean i'm not the jumbling demo so like it doesn't affect me either way he He's just like not funny on SNL ever. Ever. Damn. That's crazy. I mean you know I'll still go and I'll still go and watch it.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I honestly thought about flying to New York because I feel like New York's been calling me maybe I should go fly to New York see Rachel Zegler and Romeo and Juliet and I was like
Starting point is 01:01:34 maybe I'll go see Chapel at SNL. I thought that'd be so cute. But I was like I still would honestly. I don't really know John Mulvaney like that and who does to be honest?
Starting point is 01:01:43 You know? Yeah. If we learned anything it's to be honest? You know? Yeah. If we learned anything, it's to not judge people based on the media. I feel like that's the way to go, right? It is true. As Ariana in the Brat Remix says, it's a knife when they dissect your body on the front page. It's a knife when they won't believe you, so why explain? Honestly, that's like Shakespeare right there. That was so good. It hit me.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I was like, ooh, yeah. Yeah. See. Yeah. Why should you explain? So John Mulvaney, you don't need to explain anything to anybody. And your hair is kind of brat right now, too. It's getting brat.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Why is everything green this year? It is the year green, yeah. We talked about it. Brat summer into broadom. And then we're in Miss Limelight Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Wicked. Like it's just actually like kind of Joker's kind of green. Yeah. I don't know. But you're here for it. Green is like a money color. I feel like abundance and we're like an abundant year so
Starting point is 01:02:42 yeah I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't judge people like told uh yeah i don't know maybe i shouldn't judge people like tell me i don't know did you see that the journalist got fired who started the homeworking rumors about ariana oh yeah page six said bye well was she actually fired like okay so the journalist who covered a lot of like the ariana grande cheating allegations scandals i think she broke it didn't she yeah she's the one that had the interview or the quotes from Ethan Slater's ex-wife, Lily. The ones that kind of kicked up
Starting point is 01:03:12 everything last year. Controversial because some people are like, those are not real. Yeah, which still... But you defended by saying Lady Sticks wouldn't allow it if it wasn't real. I mean, if they were just completely made up quotes. I'm not saying the journalist got the quotes ethically. Like maybe she kind of cornered her on the street or something.
Starting point is 01:03:28 For all we know. And kind of made Lily say some stuff. But if the quotes weren't real. You think Ariana Grande's legal team. I think would have something to say about it. Because you can't just make up quotes. Publish them. And say that they're real.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And leave them up there. But maybe she got her at that vulnerable time, like you said. So the ethic part. I was going to say, yeah. Like, there could definitely be an ethic thing. But as far as the quotes being, like, completely fabricated, like, the article still wouldn't be up. It would be, like, a lawsuit. Because, like, Meghan Markle sued, you know, a lot of tabloids in the UK for just publishing.
Starting point is 01:04:02 You know what I mean? Like, you can't just lie and print it, you know? Yeah, that's true. But, yeah, so this reporter, though, is like... Francesca Vastala. Yes. Oh, you did your research. I was so invested in it because I was like,
Starting point is 01:04:15 oh, my God, did she get fired? Because all the Arianators, or they were called Arianators on May's online, were like, see, it's happening. Ariana, like, the rise up is here. You know what I mean? Like, everyone that, like, wronged her is here you know what i mean like everyone that like wronged her because there was someone else too that like got something wrong and they got
Starting point is 01:04:29 fired but anyways this was the big one i was interested in yeah so i saw that she so obviously she worked with page six and then she changed her twitter bio to like formerly page six yeah so is there former gossiper at page six yes and she published like a lot of negative pieces about Ariana and the fans have clocked that she's anti-Ari, anti. But. I mean, yeah. Okay. Because like, I don't know, page six.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Is it like kind of tabloidy like Us Weekly? It's very, but more, it's like more salacious, I think. Like, it's like more cutthroat. Like, it's not very celeb friendly, you know. So why does it exist? I think because it is kind of like one of those meaner tabloids. You know what I mean? I just feel like that's so 2007.
Starting point is 01:05:10 When you think about like Perez Hilton and all the – and the dirty Nick Ritchie. I feel like all those people are just so out because like mean is not in anymore. You know what I mean? Like do we really need to speculate about why someone's not with like their wife anymore? Like you know what I mean? Like I get it and we talked about it. But then I kind of felt bad for talking about it because Because I'm like, we actually don't know anything. I know we talked about this before.
Starting point is 01:05:27 But it's also like, if that girl wouldn't have brought it up, like, nobody would even be talking about it, speculating, right? If Lily didn't bring it up? Oh, you mean the reporter? No, Francesca. Francesca. Yeah. See, I mean, it's something that definitely would have come up regardless. But I know, but, like, would it have been a big thing if we're, like, okay, she never
Starting point is 01:05:48 got the quotes from a woman who's obviously going through some shit, whether it's, like, mutual or not, she was going through shit, and she put the quotes out there. Like, it obviously was to just, like, cause some shit, right? Yeah, for sure. So, it's, like, what's the point? I guess it's not adding any entertainment. Like, you're not, if she's a journalist, which I'm assuming she is if she worked for Page Six, it's, like, you went to school, you, like, paid money
Starting point is 01:06:06 for a college education. Like, don't you want to put out something, like, you know, valuable in the world rather than, like, trash? Um, yeah, I get that. Right? Yeah. Because, like, okay, like, again, I'm not, I didn't go to college, but I would just assume if I'm, like, a college-educated person, I want to have, like, some morals and some respect on my name. I didn't go to college, so I don't care.
Starting point is 01:06:30 But I'm just saying if I was her, I think would care right or no you went to college you're a journalist yeah I think I especially when I was writing articles like I did like the more like positive ones like I but that's kind of me in general I think like I only really I get excited and talk about stuff and like want to write about stuff that I love, you know, so like I love Taylor Swift. So I wrote I covered like all the Taylor Swift stuff. I've never like been an anti and like made it my whole like career. You know what I mean? Like like for here, there's people I hate that I talk about for like a key. But then like we always say we talk about it here and then it doesn't like occupy my mind outside of this you know whereas like yeah the people i love i'm always thinking about like a taylor olivia chapel
Starting point is 01:07:07 yeah i think if i was like an actual like prince journalist i would be more into like the positive stuff or just like actually there's like some evil people to bring down in the world you know what i mean like jack doherty right like we get to him like later but it's just like okay he literally filmed himself like crashing a mclaren and like not make sure like there's actual like evil awful people in this world to like bring down but you want to bring down ariana grande for like divorcing her husband the same time he divorces his wife and like yes it will come out and people will like speculate but i just think going that extra mile to get the quote from the ex-wife who's not in the public who's obviously at a vulnerable time and that's when you swoop in i just feel like that's a little bit ick and like you said ethically morally and i think it just like provides nothing
Starting point is 01:07:51 for anybody if anything everyone kind of gives a side eye it's kind of like side eye to you like why are you harassing someone's wife you know what i mean yeah because it sounds like she didn't like she didn't give any interviews after it's not like she went like uh lily the ex-wife was like oh let me go on like a press tour and talk about it she kind of like seemed to hide after that so it was kind of like probably that moment where it's like uh like a little sneaky yeah and i think tmz published like in around that time like a couple days after that like lily wasn't fully aware that she was like on the record or something too so she was kind of panicked after it which makes sense why she like became super quiet but yeah there is like that side of tab like tabloid culture like you said like like Perez Hilton and stuff like obviously that was so like early 2000s but I feel like yeah I don't know like
Starting point is 01:08:37 media isn't as like nasty as it once was I think right it's nasty to women like Chapel and Ariana but then meanwhile all these like guys like, guys, like, literally, like, everyone just is, like, this Cody Coe, it's fine, he's back, Zach Justice, who cares? Jack Doherty, okay, a few people got him kicked off, like, it's just, like, so not a big thing, but, oh my god, Ariana is with her co-star, and oh my god, Chapel Rowan hates her fans, like, pitchfork, it's actually, like,
Starting point is 01:08:58 kind of insane, and there's actually, like, some, like, Shazam vibe, never heard that he had all that, you know? Like, why isn't that more publicized? But Rekler had a problem with Snow White and that was ever exactly oh my god how dare she say she didn't know the musical from 1937 it's like but Shazam out here just
Starting point is 01:09:13 being dubious and no idea I literally was like oh the guy from Tangled and you're like yeah he's the worst I was like what because no one talks about it Shazam has one of the biggest Mandela effect do you know about that one Shazam yeah no tell us there'sela effect. Do you know about that one? Shazam? Yeah. No. Tell us.
Starting point is 01:09:26 There's people that think that Sinbad was in the movie Shazam. Oh, no. Shaquille O'Neal. I'm just saying there's a huge community of people that remember Sinbad being on the movie. Wow. What? Shazam. He was in one.
Starting point is 01:09:40 He played a genie in another movie. Oh, so maybe that's why. I think it may be Shazam. Something like that. There was a movie called Shazam. Maybe. He was a genie in another movie. Oh, so maybe that's why. I think it may be Kazam. Something like that. There was a movie called Kazam. Maybe. He was a genie in a movie for sure. But definitely not Shazam.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I remembered it. I remembered him being in Shazam. Like I remember the poster. What was the one he was in? Genie. Did you see one? But it's like one of the most known Mandela effects. I guess I could see that.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I think he was a genie in something else, though. Oh, Sinbad the Kazam Confusion Explained. Was he in a movie called Kazam? Wait. Many people confuse Kazam starring Shaq with Sinbad somehow. But people are adamant that they recall a movie where where sinbad played a magical companion to a young boy it is a mental effect wait no there's no way really i remember the poster of sinbad there has to be something where he played a genie there he definitely played a
Starting point is 01:10:38 genie i think maybe on one of his shows the show he had a show i think in the show he might have played a genie but where is sinbad you never hear anything about him show, I think, in the show, he might have played a genie, but. Where is Sinbad? You never hear anything about him, huh? He was so big in the 90s. God, I loved Sinbad. I remember as a kid, he was like the rock of the time, but comedy. He was in Good Burger.
Starting point is 01:10:58 He's like, oh, I'm going to get a big booty burger. I'm going to get a big booty burger. And then he got, I think Kenan, like he hit Kenan or something. Or Kenan hit him on a bike or something. I can't remember. He was good. He was also in, God, he was in so many movies, Sinbad. Was he one of those like a secret agent, like a secret service agent or something? Which one?
Starting point is 01:11:15 What? I just love that the rabbit hole he went down for Sinbad. Did you love him? No. Really? No, I don't really think about him that much. God, I really wish he was around. Yeah, maybe you are.
Starting point is 01:11:28 It is. I think I'm right at the edge of the cusp of kids knowing Sinbad. So maybe, yeah, you're too young. That's what I'm saying. Like a five-year age gap is actually everything because it's like crazy how stuff you don't know. Even though it's only five years, it's like that doesn't make a big difference. Sinbad, where are you? Maybe he can play the new Shazam.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Get Zachary Levi out of here. That'd be crazy. I'd be on board. God, oh, he was in that movie with Phil Hartman, Jingle All the Way. Did you ever see that one with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Phil Hartman? Yes. Oh, God, I loved it. And with the parade at the end, he becomes the villain.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Oh, my God, it's so good. They don't make Christmas movies like that anymore. There's all this Candace Cameron Br brouwer bull hallmark talk about dubious why is she so anti-gay like she really hates gay people it's like why the devil amongst the devil amongst us is her and francesca because again it's kind of parallel like why does it harm you you know she's like marriage is between a man and a woman i I'm like, why do you care? Like, you're married to a man. Chill out. Like, it's so weird. I guess that's what that journalist was giving me.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Because when you really think about it. Why do you care? Yeah. I was like, damn. So weird. I don't know. Sounds like trash, I would say, back in 2018. Be like, oh my god, did you see this?
Starting point is 01:12:42 This sounds so, like, gossipy for no reason. But I guess that's page six. I guess that's page six. I have a prediction, and I feel like my predictions come true a lot, that page six will close up in a few years. Oh my God. I have a feeling. People are out with the mean.
Starting point is 01:12:53 You know what I mean? People just want nice. And yeah, gossip is cute if it's a key, like us. You come into it, we're just having a key, we're just gossiping. But if it's something so salacious, is bad or good? You used it earlier. That's bad, really, yeah. Yeah, we don't want anything salacious is that like malicious no it's not the same malicious salacious
Starting point is 01:13:11 salacious like really juicy like controversial yeah scandalous yeah we like a little salacious every now and then but you know we don't live and breathe exactly and it's also like use that energy for people like colleen or something you know what i mean not the real devil amongst us it is great well page six obviously had enough of her they're like you're out well for the journalistic standard is it true that she got fired i said formerly page six like do we know if she left of her own free will? Oh, we don't know that? I don't. People just speculating.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Like, you got fired. We have no idea. I couldn't see anything that was, like, proof that she got fired or if she just, like, left to work somewhere else. Okay. Yeah. People are running with because she changed her Twitter bio to formally that she got fired. No one knows anything.
Starting point is 01:14:03 There's, like. I have not seen any confirmed statements from page six that she was fired. She goes to, like, the New York Times and does an article on me or anything. There's like. I have not seen any confirmed statements from Paige that she was fired. She goes to like the New York Times and does an article on me or something.
Starting point is 01:14:09 It's like, oh, sorry. Sorry, girl. Just kidding. It's like deadline or something. Yeah. Guys. I'd love to be in deadline though.
Starting point is 01:14:16 I've never been on there. I always see, I saw on Ethan Slater's Instagram and I was on his day of Bruce Birdley. I was just like looking at his Instagram and he had the deadline announcement
Starting point is 01:14:22 like Ethan Slater joins opposite Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande. And I was like, oh, Slay. I wish that was from a deadline. And JB Leaf was underneath it. And he's like, welcome to the gang. It was 2022. I was like, that's so cute.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I love that. I want to be a deadline headline. You just have to get casted in something. Is that what it is? It's very like industry. Yeah. Like casting news, projects and development, stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Projects and development. What if it never gets made? You're just like, oh, Trisha has a project in development and it never gets made. That's actually. When you got signed to your agency, weren't you in an article somewhere? Was it Deadline? No. Oh.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Maybe like Variety, maybe, which is kind of a slight. So fierce. Yeah. Which is better, Variety or Deadline? I read Variety more because they're a little bit more like personality, I suppose. The articles? Yeah. And they do more like interviews. Are they still print?
Starting point is 01:15:08 I don't know, actually. Remember Jenna and Shane on the cover of Variety? Jenna Marbles and Shane Dawson. I forgot about that. I was so like, wow, that's big. Yeah. Like you made it. That was a big deal, actually.
Starting point is 01:15:19 She looked so fierce and I just remember Shane was like. Not in a bad way, but I was like, why did they make him do that? Like, is he like blasting off like a rocket or something maybe? I need to look it up again. Yeah, it was such a funny cover. I was like friends with him at the time. I was happy for him, but I was like, what a, interesting. Maybe he was like blasting off into stardom or something.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Is he doing it or might it just have Mandela affect that? Oh, no, you're right. He's like, yeah. What is she doing? She's fierce though, huh? She's kind of mid-jump, but she's a little bit like shocked about it. Like, whoop. Oh, that, you're right. He's like, yeah. What is she doing? She's fierce, though, huh? She's kind of mid-jump, but she's a little bit, like, shocked about it. Like, whoop. Oh, that's so funny.
Starting point is 01:15:48 They probably were like, jump. And he's like, and me, too. Whenever someone says jump in a photo, I'm always the one on the ground because I get no air. So he probably was just like, like, trying and then didn't. What an awful pose to pick, though, for the cover. Like, jump. And then one didn't jump.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And then you're like, that's your cover shot. I guess they were supposed to be, like, blasting shot. I guess they are, they were supposed to be like blasting off, I guess they added some smoke at their feet. Is it giving blast off or is it giving like? It's giving,
Starting point is 01:16:11 we jumped. Aww. Yeah, that was wild. That was crazy. What a crazy time. What year is that? Like 2017?
Starting point is 01:16:20 2014. Oh, wow, 10 years ago. That is crazy. What a time capsule. Who would be blasting off now on Variety? Who is like 2014 oh wow 10 years ago that is crazy what a time capsule who would be
Starting point is 01:16:25 blasting off now on Variety who is like our similar I mean if it was like me choosing I'd probably put like Taria me and
Starting point is 01:16:34 Jake Webber oh what I was gonna say like Charlie XCX and Troye Sivan oh I was thinking YouTube like the YouTuber
Starting point is 01:16:39 YouTubers or now we have TikTokers I feel like TikTokers okay so who oh okay that's a good one Jake and Tara I feel like they're like they're big on both TikTok and YouTube Okay. YouTubers. Or now we have TikTokers. Yeah. Okay. So who – oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:45 That's a good one. Jake and Tara. Because I feel like they're like – they're big on both TikTok and YouTube. I feel like they – and Twitch actually. So I feel like they cover a lot of bases. Or I mean you could even – there are so many now is the thing too because you can go like real like mogul kind of with like a Pokimane cover because she's so, like, business, you know? Like, she can really do it.
Starting point is 01:17:08 I would say before all the scandals, it would probably be Mr. Beast, but I think those days are over. Yeah, no, not him. No. God, who is, like, a guy? Did we talk about this before? Like, a guy, a YouTuber?
Starting point is 01:17:18 Yeah, I don't know. That everyone likes, that universally likes. I guess this might be a hot take, but I would say Addison Rae and Chris Olsen. That's fair. I honestly think that makes sense. Although I feel like Addison wouldn't identify as TikToker anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:32 She couldn't be. If they pissed you like, oh, it's like the, you know, TikToker cover. She'd be like, no thank you. Yeah. She's too big for it. As she should have. Yeah. She's on the Brat album.
Starting point is 01:17:39 She doesn't need. That's wild. Honestly, she's crushing it so much. Yeah. I'm so happy for her. I don't know who would go with Chris Olsen then on this like. Meghan Trainor. Honestly, she's crushing it so much. Yeah. I'm so happy for her. I don't know who would go with Chris Olsen then on this like. Meghan Trainor. Obviously.
Starting point is 01:17:49 She'd probably say yes. She'd probably love being a TikToker, you know? Because she like, even though she is like huge and selling out Madison Gargant. I feel like she really resonates with being like social media too. Yeah. I think so too. I could see that. Those are hard too.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Okay. Well, you have a good cover. I have a good cover. We'll see who's get picked. Pretty wild. The you have a good cover. I have a good cover. We'll see who gets picked. Pretty wild. The red was a choice, though. I feel like red for a cover is, like, scary. I know. It's like danger. Like blood.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Yeah, like stop. Guess it makes sense. They both kind of disappeared, huh? Not Shane. Shane is still... Oh. Jenna went off. Disappeared from the side. Skinny. Skinny. Yeah, kudos. I'm jealous, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:18:27 He looks skinny. I mean, who isn't, honestly? And then especially getting into this, I'm like, damn, I wish I was skinny. I'm not going to lie. First of all, you are skinny. I'm like, well, everyone, especially, I mean, the rumors are saying semi-glutide I am on semi-glutide too I'm saying probably
Starting point is 01:18:48 what if I go to get my refill and like Shane's in the lobby and like damn I'm really doing this all wrong like what the hell why is it working for allegedly for everyone
Starting point is 01:18:57 and not for me but you know there is a few people that like won't lose weight on it I'm the same that works here it's like makeup
Starting point is 01:19:05 anyone in this presence it's so t actually that would totally be me for sure because the way i hear it i'm just like i would never i guess they say like up your dosage i really think i got to yeah really truly great i think if you lost weight you'd be back to your bobblehead era which you slayed but i think your look is so current. It's very Hassan. It's very just like what you like, you know? It is. Hassan is not skinnier than me. You're not fat. You're literally my dream goal. You're 30 pounds less
Starting point is 01:19:34 than me. I'm like, that's my dream weight. And I'm shorter than you. Oh my god. You look good. No, you don't need bobblehead. You're broad. You're this. Oh my god. That's too much. Bobbleheads look good though, too. Honestly, yeah. Yeah's too much. Bobbleheads look good, though, too. Honestly, yeah. Yeah, they look good.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Like, Shane did look good in his little Snapchat. I was like, damn. Kind of serving. Why do I look problematic? Kind of eating, but not eating. Not eating. Because I know I saw someone posted something, and he was like, I don't know. Was it Adam? No.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Maybe. No. Someone posted, like, his picture. So I'm blocked. Or I blocked him. Or I don't know what happened. But someone was, he was, like, eating, like, someone posted like his pictures because I'm blocked. Or I blocked him. Or I don't know what happened. But someone was, he was like eating like donuts or something. And I was just like, but do you still get to eat when you're on semi-glutide?
Starting point is 01:20:10 Yeah. Allegedly. Because you'd have one little donut hole and then you get super full. That's crazy. That's wild. Or like even half sometimes. Like when I am freshly dosed, I'm like, ooh, I can only have a bite. So why don't people just do that?
Starting point is 01:20:23 What? Like have a half a bite of donut. Like normal people or just people on? Like rather than take it on the back of my mind, I'm just like, you know what, I'm just gonna have a bite of a donut and then put it back. I think because with like semi-glutide, like your stomach literally feels like you can't possibly.
Starting point is 01:20:36 That's crazy. Yeah, like you feel. When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most? When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard. When the barbecue's lit, but there's nothing to grill. When the in-laws decide that, actually, they will stay for dinner. Instacart has all your groceries covered this summer. So download the app and get delivery in as fast as 60 minutes. Plus enjoy $0 delivery fees on
Starting point is 01:21:00 your first three orders. Service feesions and terms apply instacart groceries that over deliver like if i have one more bite i'm gonna like not at least for me like from my own personal experience like when i'm really feeling it my stomach just feels like so full and heavy that i'm like if i have one more bite i'm gonna be sick you might be the only person that's honest about it i don't think anyone's admitted to it i was thinking about that on the way here because i was like literally the whole time i'm driving in this i'm like damn if i was skinny i'd be slaying and then i was like like everyone is getting skinny and okay especially when you're older it makes sense because you're when you get older especially after 30 i think your metabolism
Starting point is 01:21:36 slows down a lot so like if there's a lot of like people in their 30s or older who all of a sudden out of nowhere as semi-glutenside becomes accessible and popular in LA are all of a sudden screaming at like the same time it's like I'm not putting that on everyone but there's a good chance that that is part of it you know and no one's really there's no shame in it for me like I'm still working out
Starting point is 01:21:58 yeah I would oh my god I wouldn't want it just for the gag just to talk about it you know what I mean cause that's like no one's talking about it oh my god I would like love to talk about it. You know what I mean? Because that's like, no one's talking about it. I'm like, God, I would love to just be like, damn, look at me on Ozempic. That's crazy. The closest we get is Oprah saying weight loss medication, but she won't say what the hell it is.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Right. And Kylie Clarkson said something like Ozempic adjacent. Because so many of them don't have the medical condition for it. But semi-glutide. They get criticized for taking away the medicine for people that actually need it. No, but he's saying semi-glutide's available for everyone. It's not just Ozempic ozempic is for people with diabetics but if you get the manjaro and stuff it's
Starting point is 01:22:28 for people who just want to lose weight so it might not just I don't know I feel like maybe there's like a you think like it's more prideful I think in general it's a sensitive issue there's a lot of judgment some people like they judge themselves sometimes or the way they view it about themselves
Starting point is 01:22:44 it's like cheating or something. Yeah, I mean, again, you shouldn't judge yourself or judge others. That's so Wendy. Remember when the person's like a gastric bypass? Okay, so you cheated. Maybe that. So I'm like, I feel like that is kind of the big mentality, right? I mean, it is kind of cheating, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:22:59 But what if you manage to overcome your mind, like, gain control? Mama kudos. Are you cheating? That's not cheating. They're just using. No, but they're not overcoming their mind. There's a medical thing telling them they're too full. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:12 So if somebody has depression and takes antidepressants, are they cheating? No. T. Good point, Moses. That is a good point. That's right. Because especially when you get older, I mean, there's so many genetic elements to it too. Like everyone, pretty much everyone in my family has been overweight at some point or is overweight.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Like our metabolisms are so much slower. My half brothers are all skinny, but it's because guess what? Their freaking dad or their dad or mom is skinny, tall and skinny. Damn, they got the good half. Yeah, exactly. It's like, damn. Yeah, they got the fat half. Yeah, exactly. It's like, damn. Yeah, I got the fat gene from both sides. Weirdly, my parents are so skinny.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Like, they're literally, like, my dad's, like, 160. My mom's, like, 100 pounds. Like, they're so tiny. But, like, everyone else in our families are, like, big. So it's very weird. I'm like, I wonder why they got so skinny. I guess they just, like, they're really obsessed with just being skinny, I guess. I don't know how.
Starting point is 01:24:04 My dad, like, loves walking. He does, like, seven miles every day for, like, the past 15 years. they just like they're really obsessed with just being skinny i guess i don't know how my dad like loves walking he does like seven miles every day for like the past 15 years he like clocks it on his watch and i'm just like how are you like so obsessed with that every day it's like once you start and you get in the routine that's the thing like you kind of feel like i think maybe you get addicted to endorphins or something too it's like oh i gotta because if i don't if I go like three days or something without working out I'm like I feel not like myself yeah
Starting point is 01:24:28 same I mean walking I always we have this conversation all the time and I was like I need to start I need to start
Starting point is 01:24:34 once you start you'll get there I know I know we love walking walking is amazing walking is really it's so hard with the kids
Starting point is 01:24:39 because we have those big strollers and the car seats and we I'll go as a family but it's hard and it's hot too right now yeah the weather has been difficult but walking's hard. And it's hot, too, right now. Yeah, the weather has been difficult.
Starting point is 01:24:47 But walking is just amazing because it's another form of meditation. Going outside, especially. We do love our walks. I miss those. That's true. Okay, well, we're getting back to it. I'm on the grapefruit and egg diet. I think I've lost two pounds in six months.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Better than gaining two pounds. Probably me, too, actually. I think it's better. I used to always gain, like, five pounds every six months. We'll probably me too actually yeah i think it's better i used to always gain like 10 like five pounds every six months so we'll take what we can get i'll take what i can get although olive garden has a chicken tortellini out right now that looks damn that sounds good i know i thought on tiktok i sent you a mozambican that looks so bomb and everything's pumpkin right now like pumpkin cheesecake and pumpkin waffles and damn all right well you know what i bet shane feels so freaking good though because i know him obviously we were friends for so long and we always bonded over like
Starting point is 01:25:30 weight issues so he probably feels so freaking hot he's probably like i'm so skinny and good for him honestly i'd feel the same way oh yeah i'd be like wow if i was skinny i wouldn't shut up about it literally i would be like oh skinny you wish you could be this skinny maybe that's why we're cursed. God knows. It's like, maybe too much. They're skinny. Unstoppable if I was skinny.
Starting point is 01:25:51 So it's okay. A little weight. I'm a little slower to get to the finish line, but we're getting there. You know what I mean? But we still cross the finish line. We still cross it. We're like the tortoise and the hare. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:01 You know, we're just a little bit of a chunky tortoise. Alex Cooper is the hare. You know, she gets everything. little bit of a chunky tortoise. Alex Cooper is the hare. You know, she gets everything. See, and skinny. And skinny. It makes sense. That's actually so true. Maybe Carmelita's right.
Starting point is 01:26:11 You should be skinny to be ultra famous and rich. Maybe she's spilled. She's spilled. Maybe she's spilled. Carmelita spills every time. I have another food-related hot topic. I love anything food-related. The viral cake
Starting point is 01:26:27 drama that happened on tiktok i know oh really okay so there was um an influencer who um he's like a chef um he has 300 000 followers on tiktok and he posted about how he made this like funfetti birthday cake for his friend's birthday and he took the cake to a restaurant to celebrate the birthday and he already called the head at the restaurant to make sure he could bring it and that they would be able to hold it in the back and then bring out the cake for dessert and um when it was time to bring out the cake he said that the restaurant cut like really tiny like sliver slices of the cake and it was a pretty big cake first of all the cake itself jimmy i'm sure we'll insert it right here it looked good as hell i'm like damn it was beautiful it was big it had like like cookies on it and like funfetti sprinkles it looked so damn good
Starting point is 01:27:24 and then he showed photos of the slices and they were really skinny slices they were teeny tiny slices but the inside looks so good it was like layers of like vanilla and like this kind of cream inside i'm like damn that looks so good um he said the whole cake took him like five or six hours to make um but so they come out they give him the cake they give him the slices and then at the end of the meal he asked for like the leftovers of the cake there was no cake left like he asked for the leftovers and they said there's no more cake that was it so like he called like he called them out on tiktok to be like okay obviously they must have eaten the cake in the back they wanted a treat oh they said was it. That they gave all those slices was it.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Yeah. What restaurant is it? So he wouldn't say what it was. But then it became so big on TikTok that like people kind of figured it out somehow. Cheesecake Factory. Definitely. It was called Quality Meats in New York. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Yeah. For sure? This is where it happened, the alleged event? Yes. And then Quality Me meats has also confirmed this um and he's like no there has to be more because he only gave us tiny slices um but yeah people deduced that it was called quality meat it was quality meats was a restaurant and then obviously became so big on tiktok that they flooded like the comments and then people magazine had to
Starting point is 01:28:40 reach out to quality meats for a statement um and quality meats how to how to look at the security footage to see like what happened to this cake because it was getting so out of hand and they issued a statement saying to be clear our team has referenced security footage of the kitchen that evening to get an exact sense of how much cake was left at the end of the dinner while we acknowledge that we failed to pack up the remaining two slices the accusations that the staff ate the cake are completely false oh wait but they failed to pack up the remaining two slices. The accusations that the staff ate the cake are completely false. Oh, wait. But they failed to pack up the last two slices.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Where did those two slices go? So apparently they just like accidentally threw it away or something because it was like in the kitchen in the back. No, bullshit. You don't accidentally throw away two pieces of cake. That's so bullshit. When I saw it, that was my theory. That they just threw it away. Right?
Starting point is 01:29:20 That was my theory. Who does that? No. I hate it. That's bullshit for sure i'm not gonna lie when he said that he thinks that they ate it and he wasn't even that mad about it he's like you know what like they work hard they kind of deserve a sweet treat at the end of their shift he was really sweet about it in the tiktok and i believed it because i was like i put myself in
Starting point is 01:29:38 the shoes of that waiter if there was like a slice of cake left over and that cake looks so good you're siding on their side on the way well the if the waiter ate it it's something i would do i'm not saying it's the right thing but i'm saying i would not it looks so good i would not have been able to resist and i'm not made for the food industry like i'm not made for service industry at all like retail i can do but that cake looked so good i would have to have a slice no as someone with lacking willpower i still want to eat it because I know how expensive cakes are.
Starting point is 01:30:08 And like, right, you're at an event and it's dinner and you have to like splurge on this cake. They're so, they're actually the most expensive part of like any, like that little, little Taylor Swift one was 300 bucks. Like it's so expensive. You know what I mean? So like in my mind, even to this day, I would never eat like someone else's cake. It was that whole controversy like a while ago about like a kid's birthday party, right?
Starting point is 01:30:24 And there was 10 kids there and there was another good kid that started playing with them and the kid wanted cake and the people were like no you're not you weren't part of this party like you don't get the cake and everyone's like you should just give the kid cake but it's like if you only account for 10 people and like it's an expensive cake they should only feed even a little kid like obviously if it's my birthday party you know I can afford to have like I'll have a big cake and I ordered a lot of food as we know I order food for 40 people if there's 10 people you, it doesn't matter. But if you only order it and you're on a budget, you don't want like another like little kid to have the cake because it's like you only invited 10 people and that's all you could budget for.
Starting point is 01:30:53 So in this sense, it's like, okay, they gave out little slivers of cake for a reason because everyone knows that like you like give out big pieces of cake at a birthday party. So if you're giving slivers of cake and you accidentally threw away a big one, you wouldn't do that when you consciously cut small slivers. Do you know what I mean? I see what you mean. You think there was some premeditated cake issue going on. Yes, definitely. And then they're like, oh, well, oops, we threw it out. There's no oops.
Starting point is 01:31:18 You cut it in slices for a reason. I don't know. I feel like it's more malicious or salacious. I don't know. But I just think interesting that we take two different sides, though. So you're on the side of the server if he wants a sweet treat. They deserve one, but the restaurant should give it to them, not the person having to pay for an expensive cake.
Starting point is 01:31:32 I don't know if I'm necessarily on their side, like, morally, but I'm just saying I don't have the willpower to. I think specifically this cake that he made looked so, like, good. Even seeing him, like, he showed the process of him baking the cake and i was like damn like my mouth was watering i was like i want a slice of that so i know if i was like i was i was serving them i'm cutting the slice of their cake they're all skinny they don't need more cake maybe they need more cake. They're hungry. I was like, damn,
Starting point is 01:32:05 it looks so good. he baked the cake. Is he a cake baker? Yeah. He makes, he makes for every friend that has a birthday, he'll make them a cake.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Oh, okay. So, I guess it's, he cut costs there. The thing is, the cake was big. It was big.
Starting point is 01:32:16 It was like, he put himself next to it. Like, the cake was big. Oh, so he knows. He's like, there's more cake back there.
Starting point is 01:32:22 So he could calculate how much was left. He thought there was half of the cake left. And that's why I was like, well, that's a lot of cake to eat. So he could calculate how much was left. He thought there was half of the cake left. And that's why I was like, well, that's a lot of cake to eat too. I don't trust that restaurant at all. Quality meats. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Oh, well, yes, they didn't box it up. They didn't eat it. Well, show us. Show us the tapes then. We'll leak the footage. Yeah, leak the footage. I want to see every minute accounted for. I want to see no skips, nothing.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Because why would you show it? I can't imagine the footage of them. Yeah. They're like dancing in the kitchen eating cake. Like, damn, that is some good cake. That'd be me. I mean, no, I think you have the willpower. I think in your head you may want to, but you have more willpower than I do.
Starting point is 01:32:55 I don't know. It looks so good. It looks really good. But you're not afraid, like, what's in the cake? You know what I mean? You're not afraid. Maybe these people are on some kind of a, you know, they're going on a journey. They put some magic mushrooms in it or something. I don't what it's are you gonna even better you know what i mean like i wouldn't eat something i don't know what's in
Starting point is 01:33:12 there oh i guess i don't know i it just looked so good it looked so good so shout out what was his name again let me see the cake man ryan shout out ryan noah dimer because that cake that cake looked good and And he went viral. So at the end of the day. And they invited him to come back for a dinner for two. Absolutely not. Why do restaurants do this? When you have the worst experience, like come back.
Starting point is 01:33:34 And we're like, no, but you had cockroaches in my food. Why would I come back? That happened to us at a hotel. Which they never did give us our free nights, honestly. I was like, okay, we should go because there's a sushi place. But in San Diego, there was that. It was like the worst. Like truly, truly the worst. I've never read Yelp reviews. And I had to write one because it was like so we should go because there's a sushi place like but in san ego there was that it was like the worst like just truly truly the worst i've never write yelp
Starting point is 01:33:46 reviews and i had to write one because it was like so bad because we had our newborn she was like maybe i don't know three months old or something like that and there was like literally cigarette smoke just coming through the vents yeah it was so bad it was so potent and we we went to complain obviously where i was like we have a newborn like this is so bad for her lungs whatever they move us like this like literal like, like, literal, like, another room that has, like, see-through, like, doors. Like, the doors that you could just, like, whatever. It's not, like, a hotel room door.
Starting point is 01:34:09 It's, like, literally, like, I don't know. What do you call it? It's kind of like, it's a kind of door you will have inside a house. Like, a glass door. Like, a French door, almost. So somebody can easily, like, just tap the glass and open the door. Yeah, they. Or look through.
Starting point is 01:34:19 It was weird. They put us in that room next. And I was like, oh, baby. And no views. Because we had an amazing room. Suddenly, this room had no views. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:26 So, yeah. It was late at night, too. So, it's far too dark. It was, like, midnight. Because the smoking and stuff, like, being, like, whatever. So, the smokers were happening and stuff like that. So, yeah. We had the oceanfront.
Starting point is 01:34:33 And, yeah. It was, like, a $2,000 room. And they put us in this, like, literally, like, it's, like, a little, like, janitor closet, basically. It was, like, on the side of the hotel. Like, zero windows. It was, like, little thing. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:34:42 It was awful. And they didn't give us, like, a discount or anything. It was, like, oh, here's a free night. Or here's, like, a, here's, like, you know, the cost difference back or something. Like's like little thing. Whatever. It was awful. And they didn't give us like a discount or anything. It was like, oh, here's a free night or here's like a, here's like, you know, the cost difference back or something like nothing. Anyways, it was the worst hotel experience. So I was, I kept complaining even after I was like, this is like some. And then they were just like, like, oh, well, we can give you like a free night if you come back or something.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And I was like, okay, well, your hotel sucked, but whatever. But they never gave us the free night. So on top of that, they're just like, actually, you you get nothing it's like very at the end of willy wonka especially when after all that you know like i i pushed i was like look there has to be a room that's equal to what we are paying for so suddenly magically an amazing one and on the top it wasn't amazing that was not an amazing room it wasn't amazing appeared you know so it was just a choice they made to send us into an awful room but it wasn't an amazing room they sent us to. It was a little bit better.
Starting point is 01:35:26 It had a window, but it wasn't like, oh, my God, beach. It was like. No, but I'm saying that room was available to begin with, and they didn't give it to us. That's why it was so awful. Do we complain too much? Maybe we were like Karens over here. I feel like every episode we have like something we're complaining. The bread and chicken.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Oh, we had the bread and chicken. I mean, great. The smoke was crazy. Having smoke come into your room is insane. Especially with a newborn. I think that was it. Very heavy smoke. It wasn't like light. It was crazy. Having smoke come into your room is insane. Especially with a newborn. I think that was it. Very heavy smoke. It wasn't like light.
Starting point is 01:35:48 It was crazy. That was crazy. Or from the window. It was from the vent. There was no way to escape it. I was like crying because I thought that our baby was going to get like something wrong. But she's fine. But that's thankfully not because of the hotel.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Honestly, it was a horrible hotel all the way through. But it was pink, I think. I don't know. It was kind of cute. But it wasn't the Madonna Inn. I don't want to say that because then it's like, oh, pink hotel hotel all the way through. But it was pink, I think. I don't know. It was kind of cute. But it wasn't the Madonna Inn. I don't want to say that because then it's like, oh, pink hotel. We complained a lot. But I think rightfully so.
Starting point is 01:36:12 We have not gone back to the grilled chicken place. Or no, not the crispy chicken. We're going to go back. They didn't have time. Yeah. We love a food-related complaint. We love it. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Speaking of all-garden chain restaurants, did you see the chain event they had? Eat at Chain? No. Yesterday, all the influencers were there. They had a VIP red carpet. Joe Volpes was on the VIP red carpet. Do you know who that is? It's Joe from Vlog Squad.
Starting point is 01:36:39 It's Joe. Oh, it's Joe is his name. He gets really good guests on his podcast. Shout out. Oh, it's Joe. It's crazy. But they had this event is his name. He gets like really good guests on his podcast. Shout out. Oh, it's Joe. It's crazy. But they had this like event. I'm surprised you didn't go.
Starting point is 01:36:48 It was at Eat It. It's called Eat It Chain and every influencer went. Oh, I saw like an ad for it I think on Instagram. Seth Rogen was there. It was like a food festival kind of thing, right? Yeah, it's kind of like it's all your favorite chain food restaurants but gourmet chefs make it. So it's all your favorite like, you know, like chicken nuggets or whatever you like from a fast food restaurant they make it gourmet and so many influencers were there who was oh um sophie the girl i did the giant crumble cookies with was
Starting point is 01:37:11 there eat eat it eat with katie on tiktok like all these foodies were there how come i never get invited to these things it looks so good seth rogan linda the plug was there and i don't know how people get invited but we were not on the list especially fast food that's like so our thing I know I saw an ad for it but it was far it was like downtown I think oh so you don't venture down that way we're in downtown that's a lot of effort I don't know actually I just saw like downtown LA and I was like I wanted to go check out so it looked I saw the ad I saw looked good they're like a red carpet for people I was was like, wow, that's like an event. I wonder if Getty Images was there. Joel Volpe has more recent Getty Images than you. Joel. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Well, he probably does. It's probably on there, actually. I'm curious. Wouldn't that be crazy if they were there? They were. Chainfest held at Skylight Row. No. Who's there?
Starting point is 01:38:03 Who's on the Getty Images? Who is there? Let me Row, October. No! Who's there? Who's on the Getty Images? Who is there? Let me go to this. No way. I'm telling you, they had a red carpet, so I guess it made sense. Man, I wish we were invited. Would you have actually gone if you were invited? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Maybe. It sounds fun. That sounded really fun, that one. Oh, Zach Justice and his girlfriend. Mamrie Hart. What? Wow. We're really shunned.
Starting point is 01:38:30 I don't know who that guy is. Who's this? Don't know her. Gosh. Lauren Gray. Damn. Everybody's there. God, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Zach Justice is wild getting invited. That's wild. Adrena Patridge from the Hills No Mindy Kaling Seth Rogen I would have probably gone It does look pretty good I'm not going to lie
Starting point is 01:38:55 Panda Express, Sonic, Jack in the Box And Gourmet version of it This does look pretty lit I'm not going to lie I guess maybe we should have gone Well we weren't invited It'd be one thing to be like oh we were invited to go yeah never turning down james charles turning down just trish before being asked i love it yeah it's kind of sad everyone had pictures of seth rogan i was like i didn't know he was
Starting point is 01:39:22 for me i would take pictures of guys just to have ferguson that's who i'd pick like if you could pick between mindy seth rogan or just oh i love mindy i'd probably choose mindy but again i need to not think about size all the time i guess it's just so prevalent she's so skinny now yeah she's another one i know you're right 2023 2024 is the year everyone got skinny it'll go down in history books. What happened that year? Not Ozetic. Don't you know? That is crazy.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Did you see all the controversy around Niall Horan? No, I love him. I love him. It's not really about him. It's about Liam Payne who went to Niall's concert. Oh no. He seems dubious, huh? I think Liam Payne is a devil amongst us for sure like solidified girlfriend doing otds on tiktok right yes and he was kind of like yes he always comes across that way and though as my girl leave him like he um went to
Starting point is 01:40:17 uh niall horn's concert in argentina last thursday and there's all these reports by the way for context there's all these reports that like liam, for context, there's all these reports that like Liam is not on like great terms with like the guys of One Direction. Like his relationship with them seems like a little wonky. I think he went on Impulse of a couple years ago and he like kind of was shady towards like Harry and Niall and stuff. He was like, my song, Strip That Down, it's actually, if you look at the numbers, it's like the best song out of everyone from One Direction.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Is that true? No, it's nothing nothing of the sort it's nothing of the sort but something about impulsive makes i think guys a little the lulu i think that's over it's over right i don't think it's around anymore mr beast was just on it which he just picks and chooses when he doesn't i think so whatever he feels like it, I guess. So Liam attended the concert. He was in a box seat at the concert. And before Niall even came on, he was doing all these antics. He stepped out so everyone could see him. Obviously, a lot of the girls there know Niall from One Direction.
Starting point is 01:41:18 They like One Direction. So seeing Liam, I think seeing anyone from there would be exciting, right? Yeah. But he went out, he was doing dances like the pre-playlist for everyone. Everyone was going crazy. He was basically taking all the attention away from Niall. And it got so bad that like security
Starting point is 01:41:34 had to come out and say like, hey, can you not like do that? What was he doing? He was standing out in the box and like dancing for everyone. He was like taking photos. While Niall was performing or before the show? It was right before he came on. But then it even persisted as Niall was on. Like then you could hear
Starting point is 01:41:48 in some videos you could hear Niall performing and he was still out there like waving to everybody making it all about himself. Did people care? I feel like I would not care. I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:41:56 I don't know who this person is. Well, Liam has a repu... Oh, like you mean the fans? Yeah. I think contextually like, you know, you're obviously a One Direction fan if you're there for Niall
Starting point is 01:42:04 and then seeing anyone from One Direction being close to them and also like argentina it's not like they're like a lot of acts go to like south america and stuff too so i think that also adds a layer of like excitement like because they obviously don't see as many celebrities as like we would in la you know i feel like i wouldn't even recognize liam for real honestly t you know what i mean like i see him on the tiktoks i'm like, oh, it looks like the guy from, like, Wonderland. Only because we talked about it on Hot Topics, but I would not recognize him. But Niall, like, voice king. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:42:30 Like, I would definitely recognize him. Uh-huh. I feel like he is down performing in the audience. Niall's, like, up on stage. Exactly. You know what I mean? Exactly. Like, mm.
Starting point is 01:42:38 And also, Harry, I mean, yeah. So, Harry also went to go see Niall, like, last month, I think. And the difference is, like, once Harry realized people recognized him in the box, like he went towards the back so to not take attention away from Niall. Oh, I see. Because he genuinely wanted to like support Niall and not make it about himself. But Liam obviously made it about himself. And then even after the concert, he walked over to the hotel where Niall was staying at. And obviously like the fans are like lined up outside the hotel and he went and
Starting point is 01:43:06 like was doing all these autographs and taking selfies with all the fans desperate it's yeah it's very very it's giving I haven't gotten attention let me go somewhere where people recognize me it's like very much like people compared him to like Tom Felton from Harry Potter or Taylor Lautner where like they make their personalities
Starting point is 01:43:21 like like Twilight Harry Potter Taylor Swift you know what I mean it's like anything to keep the fan base alive yeah um yeah not a good look and then all these other clips have come out like he was doing an instagram live and he was like can you guys put all the dates for louis and niles um tour so my management can see when i can go see them. Oh my god. Cringe. Yeah, it's like, get a job. Yeah, literally stay on TikTok. And then he's posting to his Snapchat
Starting point is 01:43:52 speaking of monetization of him at Niles' concert. On Snapchat. I really do feel like Snapchat is the new rumble. All the problematic people are just going over there. Like, it's Shane. It's David. It's this guy from one direction which one is it liam i don't know all of them sound awful logan paul's on there snapchatting during
Starting point is 01:44:10 the birth of his baby like i just feel like they're just so also very misogynistic i guess they just love men who hate women see yeah and it's so weird because the content on there like isn't even good like i saw people posted screenshots of like chloe kardashian's snapchat yeah on twitter and it went viral and it was like literally random photos like getty images from like not even of her it was like look at kylie's outfit from the other night like what and they're getting paid so much money to post the most random that no one cares about just like thousands of snaps a day yes the little like dot dot dot at the top is crazy at least put some effort like do your shoes do your food do your face. Do your food. Do your face.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Your cheek. Your hair. Like just do something. Why not just post content that's like already out there. It's so lazy. It's so lazy. And especially with the case of Khloe. Like can you tell she had like her assistant or something post like random photos her snap and like ask a question. You know like. Just put some effort into it. They talk about like oh get your ass up and work. It's like
Starting point is 01:45:02 if you're getting so much money just snap your freaking salad. Snap freaking house like whatever like that's just so i could do a thousand snaps easily a day just sitting in my house you know what i mean because there's so many things you see throughout the day like even going up and down yeah yes that's it they just don't know how to be creative i guess i mean they mean, they must be paying a lot. It's crazy. Snapchat is the devil amongst us for sure. It's like the hell and then all the devils amongst us go to Snapchat. You know what I mean? Zach Justice is popping on Snapchat.
Starting point is 01:45:36 He's thriving on there for sure. But even before the concert, Liam posted to his Snapchat and was like telling everyone exactly where he was going. He's like, I'm on my way to Argentina to see Niall Horan. And then he said, I think we might just have to go and say hello to Niall. It's been a while since me and Niall have spoken. We've got a lot to talk about. And I would like to square up a couple of things with that boy. No bad vibes or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:45:59 But just we need to talk. Weird. He's on weird terms with like everyone from One Direction. It's really odd. And I think if there's no reunion, it's because of Liam. Probably because they just like don't want to be around him. Because he seems like the worst. They need to pull it in sync and just exile like Justin and exile Liam.
Starting point is 01:46:17 You know? I think people would be more excited about a reunion if there was no Justin. More excited about a reunion if there's no Liam. You know what I mean? I think so too. Their value goes up. Yeah. That's honestly tea.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Like, let's just kick Liam out of it, to be honest. I don't know him. I can tell you one harmony he sings. Does he have a lead on any song? In the beginning, before Harry was the it boy of the group, it was Liam a little bit. And there was kind of like the, they were going back and forth between Liam and Harry.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Really? Yeah. Like, I will confess, in confess in the x factor days when they were on x factor liam was my favorite but then i became a harry once i saw the light of day i had a liam doll what well i had a liam harry and louis doll i also liked louis back then oh i don't even know louis i don't know him but i he seems sweet he seems like the one that is like still really close with everyone. They all honestly seem sweet besides Liam, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Sounds dubious. Yeah. Sounds like he needs to do something. He needs a podcast or something. I think he did not have a microphone. Something to occupy him. You know what I mean? And then there was even more Liam news.
Starting point is 01:47:21 So when he was on Impulsive, talked about how um another member of one direction he wouldn't say who reportedly threw him up against the wall during an argument and he fought back and said if you don't remove those hands there's a high likelihood you'll never use them again who said that liam said it to the person that was on his phone yeah well i think whoever threw him against the wall won uh what did you say whoever Whoever, like, threw him against the wall was probably the one. Oh, T. Yeah. Like, he's just like, oh, if you ever do that again, it's like, well, it sounds like they
Starting point is 01:47:49 did it. And you did nothing about it. It sounds like you were losing. Right, right, right. And then his ex-girlfriend. Well, his ex-girlfriend, Maya Henry, posted on TikTok. She stitched a TikTok with someone trying to, like, figure out who it was. It was like, and confirmed that it was Zayn.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Ah, I would have guessed. Which makes, like, the most sense. So, Maya Henry is his, like, ex-fiance. And she has some, a lot of tea, actually, on Liam. She actually posted a new TikTok last night slash this morning. It was an eight-minute TikTok. Because Liam's fans were, were like popping off on her. Like, why are you desperate?
Starting point is 01:48:27 Like, why are you talking about Liam again? She was like, you were with him for money, blah, blah, blah. But her dad is like one of the biggest lawyers in the country. So it's like he has more money than Liam. Oh, really? You think? I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Well, just because her dad has money doesn't mean she does, right? I don't know. Generational wealth is kind of fierce. I guess so um but anyway she has claimed that liam was like very abusive towards her when they were together she um i have to say allegedly obviously but i believe her but said that um she was like pressured from liam she got pregnant but she was pressured from liam and his team to get an abortion saying that i will leave you if you don't get an abortion that's just like vibes allegedly yeah very that allegedly um she also got like really sick from the abortion it was hospitalized and like allegedly liam like
Starting point is 01:49:18 never came to see her anything there's other like crazy things she wrote a whole book that was like fiction but inspired by true events and in this tiktok she says yeah everything is inspired by true events my life with liam basically um there was even a moment in her book where she says um this guy was like chasing after her with an axe at some point my god and then she says in this new tiktok like he's still obsessed with me she says that liam will like um text her her friends her mom he'll make new like icloud accounts to try to get a hold of her oh my god tries to like hook up with her friends allegedly so he just seems like not a good guy what do you do about people like this like what can you do when someone's obsessed did i think her saying it and like letting people know that he sucks is a really good step because
Starting point is 01:50:08 also she was saying how like you guys are like coming after me for exposing this stuff but like he talks badly about one direction fans like he says how much like he uses you because he knows that you are obsessed with him like he knows that he can like use you for like nude photos or whatever and then some girls are coming out for nude photos yeah he's like like he was soliciting like dms like hey like send me he would go through his followers and now there's girls who have come out claiming like yes like liam like um started dming me then he started asking for explicit photos oh my god and like what to say in videos and stuff so she's an ick yeah all around ick and i definitely listen i believe maya i think she went through it not to mention she was freshly 18 when they
Starting point is 01:50:51 got together and he was 26 she just graduated high school i was red flag with that freshly 18 never good oh my god oh uh but poor thing i know i feel bad especially when the fans are like trying to make you seem like you're crazy and you're not, you know, tell you anyone 26 turns 18 year old. They're always up to something dubious. Like it's never because you're mature. Like it's never that like and it sucks to hear. But it's just the case.
Starting point is 01:51:16 So true. They manipulate. They do that weird to you. Like and there's still something wrong with him. Like clearly she's mature and be like, oh, yeah, that was weird. But he's still like warped in the head, obviously. Yeah. I don't like him. Don't know him. Don wrong with him. Like, clearly she's mature and be like, oh, yeah, that was weird. But he's still, like, warped in the head, obviously. Yeah. I don't like him.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Don't know him. Don't like him. Yeah. And I guess for the record, I mean, Liam did have, like, alcohol issues. Like, he did go to rehab. So. Maybe it's a more help. Maybe it's something.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, if you have a problem you gotta fix it you know it's not anyone else's fault to fix allegedly abused girls so yeah he sounds sick it sounds like is there any pictures of him and niall together from the show maybe now they did take a selfie but from the stage she's like yeah and liam just turns around and like but of course liam was the one who posted like Niall, you know.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Yeah, couldn't care less. He's like, no, thank you. I don't want to know you. Because out of all of them, they're all like working,
Starting point is 01:52:11 going on tour and performing and stuff except for Liam. So it's like, damn. Yeah. What is he doing? OOTD TikToks
Starting point is 01:52:20 with his girlfriend. But then like shaming her for like showing skin. That's what I hate. I'm just like, well, at least she's doing something. She's trying to like make a name for herself. Yeah, at least you're like making content. You're just like hanging there like a loser next to her.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Mocking her, making fun of her. I'm like, you're such a loser. He's a devil amongst us for sure, confirmed. Yeah. Wow. One Direction just causing spicy. I know. That was some big 1DT.
Starting point is 01:52:43 I was like, damn. It brought me back to like 2014, the peak 1D. 10 years ago. Yeah. Would you see a reunion tour if they went on? Without Liam, yeah. I definitely would. Who sings the first line of Shot Me Out of the Dun?
Starting point is 01:52:58 You're my kryptonite. Who sings that? Wait, what is that song? Get out out get out of my head and fall into my arms instead oh is that what they sing is that the song i think so and fall into my arms i have no idea one thing right oh yeah shot me out of the sky yeah it's uh liam and harry well which one sings it i think the first one is liam no that's my favorite lyric ever that's my favorite line is it i'm pretty sure wait let me watch the music video it's liam no yeah it's liam that's like the only line i know from a wonder song i love I love it so much. He was sweet back in the day. He was my favorite for that first album.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Damn. Yeah, he was. And he had like the cool like soupy hair. He had it all going on for a minute. He had to ruin it. Yeah, he did have to ruin it by just being a gross man. That's always the case. Always the case.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I blame Snapchat. Platforming these people. I guess that is a good segue. I i mean there's two more dubious men to get into i suppose yeah well he's not the dubious one i suppose but the david dobrik david overhand see this one what the new like um it was like the defense statements got oh i saw something and make this sound so complicated to follow it does sound really complicated i try to like see as at first i was like oh i should reach out to like a lawyer for to sum it up you know what i mean like a lot of work i was gonna say it was a lot of work because i really
Starting point is 01:54:37 was trying over here i really was trying for a second i, oh, it'd be so fierce if I got like a lawyer to break it down. But I couldn't get a lawyer to phone in. So I just like read as many like recaps as possible and like TikTok analysis. This is not the kind of program to pull up the documents and go over them. No, absolutely not. but basically the gist is that it's like the statements from natalie and david regarding the jeff wittek lawsuit over the 2020 excavator incident um got put into like public record and what it sounds like is that like david and natalie were basically making it seem like Jeff was paid $1,500 for the video. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:55:32 Did Jeff admit to it? All of this is just, like, from the defense. They're saying he had paid $1,500? That's hard to believe. Yeah. So none of this is from the plaintiff. Like, Jeff's statement or anything like isn't here he hasn't uh legally published like a rebuttal to any of this yet it's all just
Starting point is 01:55:50 documents that's just the defense so it's all like one-sided right now um i feel like jeff has said he's never taken like money he's never got money from them yeah and i've never got money from david i don't think he paid anybody it's like a really random amount like where would you come up with that number that and like if they like paid for like some of his medical maybe they like gave him $1,500 on time like oh that was to for the video i don't know it's weird it is really really weird um and the the gist is yeah they they had um workers comp pay um 119,000 so that came from like the insurance company to pay for the workers yeah that's crazy because also that too is like saying that you have an employee because we have workers comp and it's like that's like yes employee working for you and then do you remember a couple i think
Starting point is 01:56:37 it was last year we talked about how the insurance company was kind of going after david so i believe kind of fraud yeah so i think this is i believe that is the connection um because they were trying to justify paying 119 out of workers comp but then david also reportedly paid another like 42 000 towards um jeff surgeries um i guarantee there's no contract that says he's an employee like an employee yeah there's no way yeah i don't think there's any like paperwork or anything that says there he's an employee but they're saying that they paid him fifteen hundred dollars for the video that jeff accepted um no way 119 000 came from workers comp to pay for the health care services and then an additional 41 000 um the
Starting point is 01:57:18 big thing that came out was um in like the interview after like for obviously once you get workman's comp you have to like have talked to the person the victim of the incident um so in this paperwork that was filed it said that like jeff was the one that said my hand slipped and i got i flung into the excavator so like specifically saying i like i'm the one who slipped and fell into it versus, like, David being, like, reckless and flinging him into it. And Jeff is claiming – remember when he was here saying, like, Natalie, it was allegedly, like, forged documents? Jeff is saying that that is, like, the document that she forged to make it seem like Jeff is the one at fault. But even so – well, a couple things. Don't you have to get workman's comp for
Starting point is 01:58:05 each employee right if all those people were employees is he had workman's comp for like every single person that was there and then also too the whole point of workman's comp right is someone like slips and falls like if there's ice outside or something like that like on your you know on your property like they could still sue you so it's also like even if he was at fault but you're saying he forged it but even if he if he did slip it was like for david's video on david's time like david was the one doing the excavator like exactly yeah so it's all just very dubious it's on video yeah you can see that he didn't sleep and fall you know what i mean like it wasn't an accident on jeff's side you can see the excavator stopping and jeff flying from the from the inertia of it and hitting the crane like you can see the excavator stopping and Jeff flying from the inertia of it and hitting the crane.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Like you can see that. So that's crazy if she forged. I mean, that's like so crazy. The Wetlands Comp thing is crazy. I'm trying to say it's an employee is insane. Like anyone who's been in David's videos like knows there's never been a contract, an employee. There's not even compensation.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Like you don't even get your meals paid for by David. He never pays. So it's just like what is the it's just so odd yeah and it all it all just seems very weird like that i feel like the truth really would come out like in a trial if it happens because right now it's all kind of like there is like video evidence then there's a lot of like he said she said about it too like also another weird thing that's in the paperwork is that they keep reiterating this like statement that jeff sent um a dm sent david a dm of 50 cent doing a similar stunt with like an excavator like sent a video of it and that's like reiterated like three times in the paper but then in the paperwork but
Starting point is 01:59:39 also david's saying like i didn't open the dm but i feel like it's kind of insinuating that like maybe it was jeff's idea like he kept showing the same exact stunt to everyone. So. But there is a like on the David's podcast like around that time he said that he saw that he didn't open the DM until like after so he wouldn't have seen it. But I think they're trying to insinuate that he was showing other people. That it was Jeff's idea to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:01 So why did Karina go up first? Yeah. You know what I mean? That doesn't make any sense either. it's all very weird um and then there was also like and even so someone's like I have this great idea like if you're like I'm Deadpool today like shoot me with an arrow I don't know Katniss whatever and this is like I mean I'm gonna be like well Oscar told me to so I shot him with an arrow it's like that's like doesn't make any sense like you still got the excavator you rented it you drove it you had Corinna go up first then you had an arrow it's like that's like doesn't make any sense like you still got the excavator you rented it you drove it you had corinna go up first then you had jeff like it's
Starting point is 02:00:27 just you filmed it like it's so weird it's such a weird thing that they're trying to cop out of this i can't even believe they're trying to defend it like that's what's crazy like how they haven't even settled or try to settle and they're also in the paperwork keep reiterating that even though like being a part of the vlog squad wasn't like a paid thing that he was compensated with like views and followers um and that should kind of like suffice as payment like that's also something that was like reiterated a lot and then there's also part of the defense is like they put all the like youtube videos that jeff was in so like there's literally like a couple pages of the documents that's just like linked
Starting point is 02:01:05 to vlogs that Jeff was in. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard of. Like, do they not know the law? Because you imagine like I just have someone working for me and I'm like, well, I tagged you. So that's your payment. You don't need cash. Like that's the craziest thing I've ever heard actually to like even try to sell that.
Starting point is 02:01:21 They actually have some kind of a measurement of clout. Yeah, that's but also they said they did pay him. So why are they trying to prove there's also cons as payment? It's like, did you pay him? Did you not pay him? Like they definitely did not pay. And if they did, they snuck it in.
Starting point is 02:01:34 If they snuck it in, it's just so they can use the comp, the payment. Right. Because workers comp doesn't have a name on it. You just say, you know, I have 20 employees. That's it. It could have been for his gardener at his house. You know, there's not necessarily
Starting point is 02:01:47 a specific person behind each one. So they had to pay him to give him the workers' comp. I bet you if they did pay him $1,500, but it was after the accident. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. In order to use the workers' comp, they're probably just like, here's a paycheck. Hmm. Very, very strange. The fact that he would
Starting point is 02:02:05 even be like, look at all these videos he was in. Like, you dumbass. Like, what? Yeah. You literally, like, blinded him almost. Took years off his life. He's still paying for it. Like, it's just actually that makes me so upset. Him and Natalie are both on it? Because are they both getting sued? Or why is Natalie's statements on here? I think because she
Starting point is 02:02:21 yeah, she she's a part of the defense too because she's the president of David Dobrik LLC. She's such on here. I think because she yeah she she's a part of the defense too because she's the president of David Dobrik LLC. She's such a snake. God it made me so mad. Like these people like I just hope they don't get away with it because it's actually just so obvious that everything's so guilty.
Starting point is 02:02:38 The fact that you're even like it's crazy when you're so guilty and you're still trying to defend yourself when there's like an actual victim out there is like actually insane. Like oh it pisses me off. It pisses me off so guilty and you're still trying to defend yourself when there's like an actual victim out there is like actually insane like oh it pisses me off it pisses me off so much and it's I guess that's why when all these influencers are a friend with David and hang out with David as like he did like you know that he's just like this nice guy it's like it'd be one thing accidents happen and you own up to it you pay for it whatever but it's another thing to try and prove like Jeff is like behind all this and it's his fault entirely it I can't even like really wrap my head around it too because
Starting point is 02:03:07 like reading natalie's statements in particular i think that how it starts obviously you have to like say like your title and everything but saying like president of david joe brick llc i'm like and all the like responsibilities that she's trying to like talk about as far as like you know scheduling the production stuff and workman's comp and all these, like, really technical stuff. I was like, how do you have the experience? And then I double checked her LinkedIn just to see, like, maybe she has, like, really high, like, background, some, like, you know, education and, like, this career that I just didn't know about to have the experience to, like, run a company and be able to even figure out HR and workman's. Because that's, like like really complicated stuff. Yes.
Starting point is 02:03:47 But her experience began with executive assistant to David Dobrik. Literally. Then to chief of staff and then became president. Oh my God. I'm just like what? Okay, chief of staff from Burton Hills. Literally. Literally. their employee is natalie that is the one employee managing herself might be harder than we think it sounds like oh my god and then she became president of david dobeck llc october 2022 so that's her whole career i remember when she
Starting point is 02:04:23 started it was literally like she moved out like it was maybe january 2018 i don't remember was it yeah because her education psychology lake forest college yeah 2014 to 2018 yes i so remember because i remember her first like job as his assistant is literally getting me to go to the candy store on cvs ventura so a guy could pretend to hit on me so they could catch me cheating on somebody at the time. And I was like, this is so weird. I remember Natalie being like, you have to go there. Use my car. And like trying to get me to go to this candy store.
Starting point is 02:04:52 And I was like – and it was like her first week on the job. And I was like, is this what he hired her for? Like it's so weird. Literally took quirks and like tricked people into doing stuff. Like go to the candy store. He needs candy. And I was just like, okay. And then I just knew the whole thing was that I was going to win there.
Starting point is 02:05:04 I was like, I saw this guy like trying to the candy store. He needs candy. And I'm just like, okay. And then I just knew the whole thing was that episode as I went there. I was like, I saw this guy, like, trying to hit on me. I was like, okay, this is obviously a stupid prank. That doesn't make any sense. Oh, my God. That psychology major really coming in handy. Oh, my God. That is funny. I hate it.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Ew. I mean, she really is the snakiest snake. David is, too. But I know he has, like, Natalie do all that, like, dirty work and stuff like that. And she'll do it because she got promoted chief of staff in two years just wait and see when he throws her under the bus you know I feel like when you have that much dirt on somebody
Starting point is 02:05:32 together you can't like you just have to like you go down together yeah and yeah that is why I didn't know about all that I was thinking about Jeff's arrest but I was like that's a whole other thing so Jeff hasn't responded I mean he shouldn't I don't think not all that. I was thinking about Jeff's arrest, but I was like, that's a whole other thing. So Jeff hasn't responded. I mean, he shouldn't, I don't think.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Not like as a statement. I think the next part of the legal process, obviously, is that he, as the plaintiff, would have to file a response. And that supposedly should happen pretty soon. I guess that's a pretty quick turnaround. So I guess that would be the next step is his response. I hope his lawyers stay with him i know they're pro bono and i hope they stay with him i know because i mean obviously trial like if to get to trial it's still i think it's a ways away to be honest um but also like the allegation that like natalie could have forged documents is still like so crazy seeing like this like contact like hearing him say it here but then also like seeing the actual like legal documents
Starting point is 02:06:33 of like yeah her putting that like that is so big like that's huge no i know that's actually like terrifying yeah i hope he like stays quiet honestly because like i really do feel like if that's all true like his case is so strong and they committed so many crimes and it's just like, OK, like especially the forging is like such a big thing or fraud on workman's comp or all that stuff, like saying we paid him and he wasn't an employee. Like there's just so many things that come into that. Like, did he ever file 1099s to David Dobrik LLC? Like, you know, there's so many things to say.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Like, were you an employee? Where did they claim? You know, it's like I just really hope hope he continues. And I hope the lawyers continue. I hope they get a good judge. And I hope it, like, you know. There should be some repercussions. I'm just so sick of these people, like, not getting any repercussions. Again, this is, like, this is actual, like, dubious stuff.
Starting point is 02:07:15 This is what Page Six Francesca Fasali should do a report on. Because it's, like, actually insane. And, like, kudos to the people who did it, like, Business Insider and all that stuff like that. But I just think it should be covered more. You just kind of don't hear about it like i really didn't hear about this i saw like something on tiktok and it's like oh that sounds like a lot of like paperwork i'm not gonna like read all that yeah and that is kind of the problem with like the like you really do need someone to like really go through it like shout out spill so i want to show her to like learn as much as possible yeah she's one i was going through like
Starting point is 02:07:43 the lawyer tiktoks to like see their breakdowns and stuff the girl with the purple hair i see her i love her she's everywhere she is on it um but yeah i it is like really complicated to kind of sort through all this stuff especially getting like the raw documents because they obviously go into the record and then you're able to like pay a fee to get the papers um but it is like a lot and the legal jargon and stuff is like really confusing but that seems to be like the gist there was more stuff too like they um talked about who they rented like the excavator the excavator from and how i think it was this guy david i forgot his name but there was this one guy they saw he did a similar stunt and they wanted to do it again and then the guy when he was interviewed was like he wanted to do some really crazy stuff.
Starting point is 02:08:26 I don't know. Like he wanted to water slide out of the plane and then skydive. Oh my gosh. It was just like crazy. Thank God it stopped, you know, hopefully with like that. Hopefully, yeah. Because that's – you know, it seems like now – but it is – so it does suck like all that happened to you and then you just see him like being in Target with like a pickle
Starting point is 02:08:40 wall. You know what I mean? Like re-branding himself as like – Walmart, but yes. Oh, was it Walmart? Always Walmart. Shout out Walmart. I do love Walmart.
Starting point is 02:08:46 But it is crazy. Like he just gets to start this whole new life and be like, no, I'm wholesome. I named my pickleball after my little brother. And it's just like, and everyone's just cutesy and all the influencers going to his house for a Vegas party and everything's just great. And it's just like, meanwhile, being so dubious
Starting point is 02:08:59 in these court documents and like literally knowing that's not your employee and saying that it was and filing workman's comp. And it's not like giving Jeff any any credit just being like he is the one he's actually it's like he's so obviously the victim and is like saying that he's also like the perpetrator and he's like well he's the reason it's like that like that's crazy that's yeah oh that also reminds me there was another like moment like another piece of evidence in the paperwork that was like a conversation between natalie and jeff's um assistant and she had
Starting point is 02:09:26 she said does jeff really need another surgery he looks so good as he is oh my god i hate them i actually hate them i don't like use that word strongly but i actually hate them that was really crazy the worst and that word strongly, but I actually hate them. That was really crazy. They're actually the worst. And I think it's like literally like taking myself out of it because like literally my stuff is so minimal compared to this. And it's just like they're actually the worst and have like no
Starting point is 02:09:54 repercussions ever. And it's just so frustrating. Like you literally damage someone and you're like, he looks fine. Like you know what goes on behind his head. Does he really need more surgery? His depression, his triggering thoughts i mean jeff and i think he'll tell you like he's the first one to say he's not really like well you know what i mean like he's clearly still very shaken like he's not all together there i mean
Starting point is 02:10:14 that in like the nice way as possible like he's going through a lot of because of all these surgeries like he's having like a lot of issues and you can kind of just tell and i just don't understand how they can't tell that. And it's all from his accident because I knew Jeff before and I know Jeff now. And there's something very, very different about him and very shaken and very loose, I guess I could say, you know. And it's just, I don't know, it's like really scary. And I feel for him.
Starting point is 02:10:41 It's almost like someone with PTSD or something, you know what I mean? It's almost like talking to someone who's just a little unhinged and like he wasn't like that before you know what i mean yeah i mean i can't even imagine all those surgeries like there's also so like invasive too like the way he describes them like really whenever when he was here talking about like the process of them like you know taking like the scalpel directly into the eye like just hearing him describe it like makes my stomach like churn like it's very invasive really intense and it feels like never ending like he's still having to get so many surgeries four years later and he says he's like fine until those happen and then they kind of spark something in it so like again that like trauma response something sparks in him where he gets a little bit like he gets very depressed he
Starting point is 02:11:23 doesn't know what to do and like he said he's like i'm hoping one day i can have a happy life one day i can be in a relationship he's just like that's not happening right now and he's just like isolated and spiraling because of that and it's like really really scary like i honestly was like sad and i felt really scared for him because i'm just like god to go through it and then to go through and see someone completely like winning and also going against someone with like so much money is also like super scary that's why i hope these like lawyers keep going pro bono because when someone has so much money they'll like end up winning because they can just stretch it out and draw it out I mean this could go on for years and it just sucks and I hope that his lawyers don't like
Starting point is 02:11:56 give up on his case um they're awful oh they're awful I hate it it gives me honestly they're actually the worst like again of all the people we talk about like I do think they're awful oh they're awful i hate it gives me honestly they're actually the worst like again of all the people we talk about like i do think they're like the actual worst people just to like blame someone again that's like such the victim i just like how would you not be like groveling and say sorry and i feel like jeff would take you know covering the bills willing to like at first right like he was willing to like still be pro david after all that you know but to like skew everything and like manipulate him i feel like that's kind of where he started to like realize you know yeah i think he doesn't
Starting point is 02:12:32 even want a settlement money anymore he said because he was like it's not really even about the money to him he just like wants and i like kudos for that honestly because so many people do settle out but i don't know hopefully whatever's best for jeff will happen but uh i hate it so sneaky snake just the whole that language even that like quote of being like oh he looks fine does he really need that surgery that's wild oh hate it did you have a lot of experience natalie like besides that in the vlog squad or no no what was she like she was really just like i'm telling you like assistant like go get us candy go you know i'm talking about david not me saying this but like david be like go get candy go get this go get us candy. I'm talking about David, not me saying this. But David would be like, go get candy.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Go get this. Go get food. That kind of stuff. She was really just like a runner. So it's crazy to see. I'm trying to think. Yeah, towards the end. I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 02:13:17 I guess not too much. Yeah, she wasn't really anything up until that point. We just didn't have – we had very little exchanges. Never liked her though. That was my flex. Never liked her. You always we had very little exchanges. Never liked her though. That was my flex. Never liked her. You know, you always know something about her.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Like I really liked Corinna. Like I really liked, you know, even going there and I liked them, boring, but I liked them, you know,
Starting point is 02:13:32 but Natalie, there was always something that was ick about her and I just was like, it's like, hmm, I guess it's just cute. She was the one
Starting point is 02:13:40 out of that whole group I think I never interacted, like never met. I interviewed literally every single blog squad member. Even like Verd, I think I never interacted – like never met. I interviewed literally every single blogger I remember. Even like Verdun. But I never got – Never Natalie.
Starting point is 02:13:50 Never Natalie, yeah. So boring. I remember when she started becoming like an influencer. I'm like, girl, stop. Only because I know like she was a little fat shaming to others. Not to me directly, but she would like be a little fat shaming towards others. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:00 So I was always just like, hmm. Because I remember a while ago back in my mean era, I was a little, like, not nice about her body shape. But only because I heard her not being nice to other people's body shape. But I take it back. It shouldn't happen. It was wrong of me. But also, she was also calling people whales. So I was just calling it back.
Starting point is 02:14:15 I know. It's not right. We love whales, as you know. We do love whales. We're pro-whale on this podcast. We're pro-whale here. I hate that that is a term given to people that are fat. Like, you whale.
Starting point is 02:14:25 Majestic creatures that save people. That save people from sharks? Like yes, I would love to be. I'm a whale. Yeah. She's the worst. She really is. I remember she made merch like I love pasta was her merch.
Starting point is 02:14:43 What? Yeah. And I was like, okay, is that your brand? So weird. She's like, oh, yeah, pasta's my brand. I was like, okay. What? Yeah, that was her merch.
Starting point is 02:14:51 How did I not know this at all? I was so involved with the blog squad. I'm like, she literally is my one blind spot, weirdly. Like, I feel like I know everything about all of them except for her. Because she just doesn't matter. And I think she knows that. I think that's why she has to be the sneaky snake because she can't make it as like an influencer on her own.
Starting point is 02:15:08 She clearly doesn't have qualifications to go anywhere else besides David Dobrik LLC. So she's like, I got to be the sneaky snake for David. And that's why she continues to do that. Because no person with self-respect is going to cover up a man like this. You know? She knows she's not having HR or stunt people or you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:15:28 Like stunt supervisor. That made me so mad. I hate it so much. I hate it. And really my vendetta for David is like not even personal anymore. Like I just hate all this that's currently happening. I'm like, he's just the worst.
Starting point is 02:15:50 We're not going to Delbert's pizza it's probably trash damn i do love that piece it's probably not as good as you remember you probably just remember it because you love david and you were in the fog of loving david that was out of the fog it was like two years ago i think you're still in it a little bit maybe a year and a half ago i think you still have a soft spot for david and seeing all the photos of like photoshopped images of me canoodling with David and playing pickleball with him. It did bring something out. I was like, damn. I know you do. You have a little soft spot for him.
Starting point is 02:16:13 That's his charm. That's so funny. That's his charm. I don't. I have no soft spot for him. I can't believe he has a pickleball thing in one word. Like what? That's crazy. I have no soft spot for him. I can't believe he has a pickleball thing in one word. Like, what?
Starting point is 02:16:28 That's crazy. Damn. Oh, my God. That's wild. If I'm at the Celsius Pickleball Tournament. No, you better not be. Oh, my God. That would be wild.
Starting point is 02:16:39 No. That one, no. Me and Alicia Marie are, like, on the same team. Oh, my God. That's what I'm saying. Alicia and Remy were my are like on the same team oh my god that's what i'm saying alicia and remi were my dream girls and they're breaking my heart over and over but it's fine no i still love them i still love them i feel like they're the kind of girls who just because even like i think you said they said they would uh want to collaborate with you and you were shocked by that too i think they just don't I think they just are nice to people who are nice to them. That's kind of the vibe that they give me, you know.
Starting point is 02:17:08 I get that, but it's just like David Dobrik like, oh my god, I don't know about that. Well, they just don't have the traumatic experiences I think that like. I guess. I guess people are just not involved in like the Jeff of it all too. It's just like, I think Tana, like she was friends with David for a while after all
Starting point is 02:17:24 this and stuff, but I think she just was. So was so involved yeah like knew so much about jeff's side and saw his struggle and stuff like that and was just like that's true you know hear about it but then like like if you hear about it in passing it doesn't sound like as crazy but then if you actually like see like the video or if you like hear jeff talk about like having night terrors that make him have seizures in the middle of night because of the trauma that he went through then like and she went with him to the surgeries like up in Colorado and stuff so she's probably just seeing like the repercussions and you know Tana she is friends with everyone she will hurt herself will say like anyone you know she's around
Starting point is 02:17:57 anyone for clout you know like back in the day whatever so I feel like for her to give up a friendship with David who like is just cool with every influencer like truly Tana like loves every single influencer and they love her like that's actually a big thing because David had a lot of like clout I think like she always say that in the vlog squad whatever you know like she you know he had a lot of views and that's where she would go and yeah to give that friendship up is pretty pretty crazy and obviously you know it's something like serious yeah so that's why like the people who like the influencers who are still like you know going to david's house for the pool or whatever it is like it's like not even that great it really is i'm not even trying to be pessimistic but for like what he paid and what he got i'm like okay
Starting point is 02:18:33 it's cool but like a kool-aid water fountain is what you're so excited about like i don't know it doesn't give me doesn't give me excitement i would be excited if you have like at the movies they have the like the soda machines where you can mix any flavor. Sure, yeah. If you have one of those, that would honestly be pretty sick. But also I guess I can go to the AMC for that, no? Right. I have like hacks where she just has her own little personal one.
Starting point is 02:18:54 Oh, yeah, a little soda fountain. Yeah, which is so sick. Or a water slide. Like his pool doesn't even have a water slide. It's just a pool. And I was like, David's pool. And I was like, it's literally just a pool. So weird.
Starting point is 02:19:04 I don't know. The David thing I just don't really get.. It's so weird. I don't know. The David thing, I just don't really get. But I think we'll, I don't know. People will wake up. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in like this weird parallel universe right here, okay? A multiverse. A multiverse, yeah. Where I'm just like, am I the only one seeing the villain as David all along? Time traveler.
Starting point is 02:19:22 Time traveler. Very, and it's all along david all along i don't know what it means but maybe i came back in time to stop him maybe i'm just like am i on crazy pills like am i like i'm the only one that's seeing the villain here maybe i am sometimes you are but god at least it sounds like he stopped the scary stunting, which I always knew was dangerous, which I'm like, okay, maybe. Now he just Snapchats girls with big boobs, basically. Yeah, because he can't – again, someone who can't do themselves, they just kind of
Starting point is 02:19:57 use everyone else. And it's like David is master at that. I'll tell you that. Just use everyone else for his ploy. He's like a game of chess. I don't know what that means but something the king always wins. He just pawns.
Starting point is 02:20:10 I think it's the queen that wins. I was just having this discussion this morning and I thought that too. I thought the queen always wins. But it's the king? Maybe you're right. I've never played chess. David gives me more queen vibes. So maybe the queen always wins. Natalie's definitely a pawn for sure if we're playing chess but oh you're reading natalie was funny i'm sorry that cracked me up oh my god
Starting point is 02:20:38 i wish i could say so much more about her but but. Keep it classy. Keep it classy. Yeah, we're not page six. I'm not going to get fired from my Just Trish podcast. Fire myself. Oh, God. Of course, we have to like end it with the most dubious. Oh, my God. This person I hate too. I hate this person.
Starting point is 02:20:58 Jack Doherty. What a piece of shit. Yeah. Like actually. Someone who I didn't. He lives in a world, again, with like theiden rosses and all these other streamers in which i literally have no idea who they are but this video of jack doherty went viral pretty much everywhere um i specifically saw it on twitter but he saw daily mail oh really got a pickup everywhere on tiktok yeah wow um he was driving his mclaren out in the rain he
Starting point is 02:21:29 was speeding he was live streaming as he was driving and he was reading chat and he crashed his car completely totaled it how is he not in prison in jail yeah jail jail really like how seriously like there's so many laws he broke right right? Like, you're on your phone. You're reading. I guess it's hands-free, I guess, technically. But you're distracted driving. Speeding. Speeding.
Starting point is 02:21:51 Reckless driving during the rain. Mm-hmm. Obviously causing a – like, how is he not in jail? He completely crashed his car. The passenger in his car was his cameraman his cameraman so when the clip picks up he uh is puts the camera on his cameraman whose face is all bloody so gross um looks kind of traumatized to be honest like his eyes are kind of like glazed over he's still like kind of reckoning with like what just happened yeah he was in shock in the car and he couldn't get out
Starting point is 02:22:22 yeah that's where they're going do they know i don't know if we know how fast it was raining speeding yeah mclaren which is like a really scary car anyways because it's a sports car um it's not like a g-wagon and it he drove into what like the side of the highway completely total this car and then as his cameraman is coming out in shock all bloody he hands him a phone to record the total car. So obviously did not give a frick about the well-being of his, like, friend slash cameraman. No, did you see when they were, like, the people that came to help him out of the car? And he's like, can you hold this? And he asked them to, like, hold it.
Starting point is 02:22:57 And it's, like, these people who literally came to help. Like, that is, like, an actually insane person. Like, that's actually so crazy. I, like, what a piece of shit, too, because it's also, like, you put so many other people in danger. Like, thank God there was not another car involved, but, like, that spin out on a freeway,
Starting point is 02:23:11 like, here in LA. Like, is it LA or was it somewhere else? I don't think it was LA. It was somewhere else. Yeah. Like, anyway, on a freeway that you're in, it's, like, you could have put so many people, you could have killed so many other people.
Starting point is 02:23:19 Like, you could have killed your friend. You could have killed yourself. Like, it's just, it's just so sad. And it's happened before in a McLaren. We had a YouTuber that passed away like a couple years ago in a McLaren car accident. And it's just like reckless. Yeah. And it's so odd to me to – oh, it was in Miami in Florida.
Starting point is 02:23:39 Yeah, it makes sense why it was raining because there's literally like a freaking hurricane. Oh my god. What a freaking hurricane. Oh, my God. What a mess. The car is worth over $200,000. And over 100,000 people were watching him at the time, like on his live stream when this was happening, which is crazy. The fact that 100,000 people were tuning in to see this clown makes me a little sad. For that too. It makes me sad.
Starting point is 02:24:03 Right? Like who's watching this person? I really just feel like live streaming should be banned. Right? Like who's watching this person? Yeah. I really just feel like live streaming should be banned. I feel like nothing comes good from live streaming ever. Like the swatting and then this. That's true. It's like, you know, the distracted driving. It's just like so many people, I don't know, it just is not – it seems it doesn't feel
Starting point is 02:24:18 safe for a number of reasons. Like people know where you're at. People watching. Obviously the distraction of it. Because there was another – there was two girls on TikTok who were live streaming and crashed and died. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:27 There were two girls and it was all caught on their live stream. And I was just like, why is this like – it should just like maybe be banned. I don't know. It doesn't seem like it's caused a lot of like deaths and accidents. McLarens too. Because another person passed away, another social media person passed away on a McLaren it's like they just shouldn't sell these to kids under like 30 because I just feel like anybody with these cars it's just like these people with so much money they really just think
Starting point is 02:24:52 that they don't care like I'll just get a ticket I'll get whatever but it's like those cars are so dangerous like people getting car accidents all the time and those specifically and they're always like young kids because there's just such they're just so powerful and fast like I don't I had a Lamborghini and I drove like 40 miles an hour because i was like so scared of it because the power is so insane in those cars that it's wild and then mix it with kids and stupidity and live streaming and fame and viral moments it's like just having like endless amounts of money too where it's like it doesn't like you don't really value the car either because you have so much money that it's just like a, a drop in the bucket.
Starting point is 02:25:25 Like, watch this car. Maybe that's what they were thinking. Like, watch this crashed $200,000 car. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it just, yeah. He was just stupid. He's not experienced. I mean, like, it's a supercar. And when it's raining, you don't hit the gas.
Starting point is 02:25:38 Yeah, I saw that too. You just don't do that. Like, you know, I drove so many cars. Like, when the road is wet, even just somebody's watering the garden, like, you don't push the gas when it's wet because the car is so strong it just immediately takes off it just veers off which what happened to them they weren't even driving fast they were just accelerating and then when it's in the water the wheels just turn and boom straight into the into the rail they went straight into the rail but to keep filming to like keep filming like also like okay you're live streaming whatever i guess that happens but i think it shouldn't happen but like then to be like oh film this like after your friend's all
Starting point is 02:26:12 bloodied hand on the thing like you know it's like if you're in a car accident like i feel like you want anything to keep it like off the internet right like even if you're like an offender bender you're like i don't want people to know this it's like so it's his his like mentality to keep filming is like very odd and very scary. Yeah, because it's all incriminating. Everything he filmed is basically going to be used against him. As it should. I hope he gets jail time.
Starting point is 02:26:31 You know, everything. Who can? And he's the worst because I remember his videos are him just walking in a mall, walking in places and harassing people. Yeah. And then when they try to retaliate back, his bodyguards will intervene and push them away. So he's always been that kind of
Starting point is 02:26:46 you know punk yeah like a bully but also weak like he's a child that can't even defend himself and then he has bullies like you know his security that's what it is like he can't even do this himself like all you know it's like he's yeah he's a coward in so many like ways and now really just like endangering like could have endangered so many people's lives like i guess he got kicked off of kick was it yeah kick is a platform where he streams on he was banned for life or for a week i'm sure they'll bring it back i mean aiden ross who is i guess he's a co-owner of cake i guess oh my god said if uh you got to give me 300k cash if you want to get unbanned on kick. If not, you're indefinitely suspended. So he's just bribing him.
Starting point is 02:27:28 Literally. He's like, give me money and we'll be okay. 300K and you get your account back. That's crazy. Aiden also, again, very Avengers from Hell assembling to like talk about this one guy. That's how you know you really are like
Starting point is 02:27:40 the scum of the earth. If like all these people who also are literally like a nightmare, like I would rather unalive myself than be stuck in a room with some of the peopleum of the earth. If like all these people who also are literally like a nightmare, like I would rather unalive myself than be stuck in a room with some of the people who are speaking out against you. I'm like, damn, you must really suck.
Starting point is 02:27:52 Yeah. Cause Aiden Ross said, I was really upset that his cameraman got injured and he put the effing camera in the cameraman's face and said, get the angles. Somebody find me that cameraman and tell him I'm going to make it right. Nick Merckx, who's another streamer said,
Starting point is 02:28:04 if there was an Olympics for garbage humans, little would be michael phelps wow wow and also a message to him your cameraman is like jeff wittig like just learn learn from the mistakes don't do what david dobrik did yeah and just make things right because that person was well crazy did you see that when Karina responded? Oh, yeah. She tweeted it and she's like, oh, my God, you dumbass. That makes you get all those angles. And then Jeff's like, kind of like what your friend did to me.
Starting point is 02:28:32 Yeah. Which was you right before I went up. And it's so true. Like, I think it's like one of those situations where you need to sit this one out. You know what I mean? It's like me. I know when I shouldn't comment on certain things because it's like, OK, I whatever. But it's like Karina talking about that with when David did the exact same thing to Jeff. It's like me. I know when I shouldn't comment on certain things because it's like, okay, whatever. But it's like Corinna talking about that with when David did the exact same thing to Jeff.
Starting point is 02:28:48 It's like actually wild. Her exact tweet was, your friend's face is gushing blood, but you make sure he stays filming from all angles. Nice. Literally David. It's a little too – the call is coming from inside. Exactly. And on multiple occasions too. It's like it's happened with other people who have been bleeding and he keeps filming.
Starting point is 02:29:05 David himself, I think he like cut his hand and was like trying to keep bleeding. I'm like, you guys are a psycho. Like, I mean, I guess they did end up going to a hospital, but like not after they like filmed and stuff. I guess they said everyone was OK, which I guess is great. But yeah. Jack. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:19 Yeah. He posted an update of his cameraman getting stitches saying that he was OK. But yeah, it's still. But it's not something, you know, immediately like a concussion or back issues, neck issues. That was a strong impact. He obviously something happened because Jack didn't, nothing happened to him. So I think his airbag came out at the right time. But the cameraman, something must have happened.
Starting point is 02:29:43 Either he didn't have the airbag coming out on time or... Because he got really bloodied. He got really hurt in the face. Yeah, it's... Could be the camera too. Could be he was holding filming and that hit his face. But I just feel like his license should be suspended, right? So like he's not...
Starting point is 02:30:00 It could be. It could still happen. Yeah, it definitely needs to be. Because it's like if you like did that so recklessly like who's to say he wouldn't do it again especially now that he went viral he really should go to jail
Starting point is 02:30:09 for sure locked up because he like endangered so many lives a genuine menace to society another devil amongst us a lot of devils amongst us he might be the actual
Starting point is 02:30:19 he can stream from there he can stream oh my gosh yeah exactly yeah why don't you switch places with menendez brothers honestly you know they serve the time give you 30 years jack doherty and we'll come revisit you then yeah honestly what you've learned because everything i've learned about him i'm like literally seemed like the worst person he is like his whole brand is like
Starting point is 02:30:42 controversy like his bodyguard is being sued for assault he uses racial slurs he hosted a fight club where a man knocked out a woman he flipped over a golf a golf cart while his girlfriend was driving was his passenger was the security the one that like it was corinna too yes at a halloween party last year corinna and her friend i guess were going to his party and his bodyguard like punched her friend or something yeah that was what i remember that maybe that's why she has that vendetta because i was like why'd she get involved i know it does seem personal i was like wow that's crazy considering your friend did the same thing but i was like oh yeah that makes sense yeah that's
Starting point is 02:31:18 why that's right so weird oh my god this guy i just don't get oh my god it's kind of like what you're saying the basics like this guy seems like literally the worst person on the planet yeah a hundred thousand people watching him and again a lot of girls who do like a lot less like um what's her name the tiktoker on the unwell network alex earl oh right right yeah like everyone was on her like her old tweets or whatever but i'm like damn this guy and today today today like not giving a f about anyone like putting women in danger putting men like putting everyone it's the whole society but i don't even hear a single it's literally what you were saying i don't hear anything about no i don't hear like influencers i don't hear all the guy commentary voice critical where's your video about it. No, I don't hear, like, influencers. I don't hear all the guy commentary. Voice Critical, where's your video about it?
Starting point is 02:32:05 You know? Voice Critical, where's your video? Like, what? Like, it's actually insane. And it's just like, eh. These guys just exist. I know. And are terrible. And they're doing it, like,
Starting point is 02:32:13 all the time and constantly and it's happening a lot. And making millions of dollars. And Jack Doherty specifically. Like you said, you named all those incidents. It's like, this happens so many times
Starting point is 02:32:20 and everyone's just like. Where's his cancel campaign? You know what I mean? It's actually crazy. They're like, oh my God. Like, even Tara Yemi gets hate campaigns all the time against her and I'm like, what is she even doing? It's just like the way his cancel campaign you know what i mean it's actually crazy they're like oh my god like even tarah yummy gets hate campaigns all the time against her and i'm like what is she even doing the way she talks yeah literally like oh my god she's a pick me it's like how about this guy is in your lives every day like this is it's crazy yeah i know i hate it so much it's so weird because when i saw the number of how many people are watching i thought
Starting point is 02:32:40 all these guys like existed on like flop tropica you know what i mean i was like they're on their own i was like kick sounds like a flop like no one's there no one's really watching like who's on cake like a hundred thousand people literally watching millions like this is crazy they're actually all really famous really rich and obviously the they also sign them like exclusively too so i think they get paid so much money up front like hawk tula just signed the kick which has me really scared yeah what they just signed her so what does that mean she's exclusively her podcast is exclusively on there i think for like if she does streaming like corinna when she like live streams gaming and stuff like she's only on kate hawk to a why i know they probably just offered a lot of money
Starting point is 02:33:18 but hawk to her they get that when you can take it no i don't think that even if they seriously have someone who loves money if they offered me a million dollars i wouldn't take it now when you can take it now no i don't think that even if they seriously have someone who loves money if they offered me a million dollars i wouldn't take it i swear i wouldn't i wouldn't like that just sounds like the devil amongst us for real like your soul is being sold like that sounds terrifying i just would not want to be like imagine they do like a billboard for kick and it's like no aiden ross jack dorsey no, no. Karina. Karina Kov. She's a kick to her. And I love Karina and I love – I mean they're pretty. I don't know if I love them but they were nice. Karina was nice to me when I knew her.
Starting point is 02:33:52 I don't know her politics. I don't know anything about it. But how can you do it, girl? So innocent. Don't do it, girl. Is the money worth it? It's not. I'm telling you it's not.
Starting point is 02:34:00 You're going to owe tax on it. You're only going to be left with $250,000 by the time you pay taxes and lawyers and managers. You're going to be left with $250,000 by the time you pay taxes and lawyers and managers. Like, you're going to be left with $250,000. You can't even put a down payment on a house here in LA with that money. Just don't do it. That makes me so sad. But maybe I'm going to be positive.
Starting point is 02:34:15 Positive glasses are on. Maybe she'll be the change we want to see on King. No. They're going to take advantage, use her, and hawk tour her out. You know what I mean? Like, that's what's going to happen. Oh, my God. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:34:27 I know. I'm scared for her. I really wanted to get in there and try to help her. Like, because I just – I know the people she's working with, some of the people. And I'm just like, girl, let me help you. Let me save you. How can I get you out of this? You know?
Starting point is 02:34:38 And I hope she does okay. I hope so, too. I'm a little bit nervous when I saw that news. I was like, damn. I'm like, damn. Kick really do beat the devils amongst us. No. I'm scared. I rebu I saw that news. I was like, damn, kick really do be the devils amongst us. No. I'm scared.
Starting point is 02:34:47 I rebuke it. All this energy we just talked about, I rebuke it. I know. We do need to say. We do cover a lot of. A little sage. Dark people today. No, I know.
Starting point is 02:34:56 Every time we mention. It was a salacious episode. Yeah. Started with Francesca Valastella, honestly. You know her whole government. I do. I went. I saw. I conquered. Ariana, we love you know her whole government name. I went. I saw.
Starting point is 02:35:06 I conquered. Ariana, we love you. Can do no wrong. You know. Stream Sympathies and Knife remix. I love that you know the title. You know everything. I love it.
Starting point is 02:35:17 I wish I was on the Brat remix. Well, next time. Oh, my God. Yeah, you really would have slayed on it. I missed that invite, too. But that's okay. Maybe the next album. We saw videos of Freaky playing in the clubs. Yep, it's out there.
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