Just Trish - Nov 18, 2025

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

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Enjoy a Coca-Cola for a pause that refreshes. Toddler skincare line coming out. And there was, oof, the reactions right off the bat. Wait, is it makeup or is it skin? Skin care. So like jelly masks, like hydrating masks were toddlers. Really, I don't want to be talking about Ned Palmer,

but damn, like you keep popping on my page and that face. So either apologize or just don't talk about it. And there's no apology, which should be noted on this episode, was the title was originally Colleen's actual apology to... Colleen telling her side of the story. They switched the title, which is...

Like, tells you everything you need to know. Her name is true. She's got the fish and all. It got some filthy, rich, pretty and pink. Hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks she's just strange. Hello and welcome to Jess Trish. It is truly just Trish today. We are, we are, we are, we are lacking in co-hosts.

We usually have an abundance of co-hosts and we are lacking. We try to get some guests. We try to get some last minute go-host. I love you, New York, but we got some, we got some flakies. And I'm not going to lie, my schedule changed a lot too. So, you know, it is what it is. People are busy. People are busy.

I'm busy. People are busy. So we're appreciative of everyone who came along. And everyone who couldn't come along, we get it. It's fine. But you know what? Even when it is just Trish, you always know Moses is closed by. It's never fully just Trish.

There's always Moses. It's like the bodyguard, the movie. Yeah. You're always there. But just a podcast. Yeah. What? No, in life.

If I'm around, you're not far behind. That's true. And I'm appreciative of you being here. But we have amazing hot topics, though. That's one thing we do. We have amazing hot topics. I was texting Oscar minutes before this. He had a whole list of notes.

Sometimes if Oscar can't come, like, if he had notes, he'll, like, give him notes. Sometimes we just wing it. He had a dissertation of Hot Topics Day. And he was just giving knowledge and facts. And you guys know, I'm not going to give the knowledge and facts as good as Oscar. And Moses neither. We're both chronically on the line, but also on the way here just trying to find clips of Ned Fuller Apology. Well, I mean, bad for him.

I was up from 3 a.m. this morning, so I got to watch his videos. I got to watch. Oh, oh, so you're ready. I got to watch the Colleen interview, so I have things to say, you know. Unfortunately for them, you know, I was up all night, so I was. Yeah, you got the time. Yeah. All right, well, I was looking at clips.

But before we get into all of this, last week on Broadway. Broadway, Beatles on Broadway anyways. Maybe I'll be back to Broadway soon. Who knows? But this will be the very last time I will be in Beatles on Broadway. And it's the last time Beetlejuice will be on Broadway. They're leaving January 3rd. I will be doing my final performance November 23rd.

I'm truly. It's going by fast, right? So we're like halfway? More than halfway. Into our visit here. We're three fourths of the way into our visit. Wow. I'm, yeah, we've been here a long time.

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm truly devastated. I am so emotional. I have, like, I really have fallen in love with New York. Like, I've always liked New York, ish, I guess. Like, you know, it's Broadway. Like, I'll come to New York, watch Broadway. That's it. Um, but this, this, I don't know.

Because of the whole big difference. Well, yeah. And also with the kids and just like really having energy in life. I don't know. I, I've, right. There's more things we want to do than we have time to do that. And we do From the moment we wake up

Until we go to sleep We're doing something Yeah Like it's never like at home sometimes You know we lay on the couch for an hour Like that never happens Oh at home We have time

We're somewhere We're doing something And the kids like Like we're all home bodies We're just love to just be at home And eat food and stuff But here we're just like Always on the go

I'm also like You know because I do Broadway I feel like I love it But then I feel like a little selfish I'm kind of like This is like my dream life I get to be

performer and then I'm always just like oh so to make up for that guilt I'm always just like I want to spend not and I don't even know if it's to make up for it but I'm just trying to spend as much time as I can with the kids so when I go at night and it's so cute um because like Malbu will be like oh like did daddy go pick you up and like you know he's like I got to go get mommy and she goes oh daddy picked you up and I was like yeah so it's just been like I don't know I just have so much more energy I don't know like I was worried and I am I know I'm like four months postpartum but I was worried that I would never get like my energy back because three pregnancies and I mean I did go on a tour but that's like work but energy to like live

life and like be with the kids like I was so worried I was like am I going to be that mom that's just like always tired and so I started doing Pilates and stuff but I guess being active with like Broadway and also just like dancing and be on stage and that maybe it gives me more energy and the city has its own energy so it feeds into you like it's just a whole different I don't know for me even the buildings they're made out like it's all concrete and metal and there's movement and there's so much going on all the time. Like you sleep at night, you hear cars and beeping and things are moving. It's, and it gets to you.

Well, I was about to say, if you're here in New York for one more week, go see Beetlejuice on Broadway. And you won't regret that because it's amazing. I mean, the show is amazing. I've seen it so many times. I still enjoy it. See you so many of the people we see coming out of the show. It's their first time seeing a Broadway show.

So I think you're doing a great job as far as getting Broadway to, you know. A new audience. New audience. It's a Broadway. Yeah. Like exposing people to something new. Yeah. But I was, I wanted to ask you how, like usually everything you do is a one-off.

And you never do it again. How is it to do something where you actually do it again and again and again? Oh, like Beatles use every night? Yeah. Like to do something 24 times and Broadway they do it. hundreds of times. I will never get sick of it. And I mean that so sincerely.

Like, I didn't know either because I can be like overwhelmed by things and commitments and stuff like that. I'm like, I can't like, celebrity big brother. I like couldn't even last four weeks. I'm like I need to leave. You know, like I don't know. It's like the opposite of whatever triggering is. It's like the opposite. It like is so like endorphins.

Like it's just like I love going. I love signing in. everyone's excited everyone's like dressing up in costume and wigs it's like my people you know um yeah it's live live is so fun like it's not like a tv show it's like a hundred takes yeah to get one thing you get one you get one and you feel it you get immediate reaction from the audience and every night's a different reaction every night i feel a little different like sometimes different actors different actors we had different actors going this week which was like Super fun. We had two understudies go in for lead roles, Lydia and Charles Dietz. And then

my, which the person who plays my husband in the show, Maxie Dean, he went to go in for Charles Deeds, which is weird to see. And then now I have a new stage partner. And my Mark is his name. And he's a swing for Beetlejuice. I think Charles Maxi. I think Orth. Like he knows all the parts. So then I got to, he was at my rehearsal partner too. So we already like knew each other. But that was fun though that was fun i like loved seeing it all it was like and i was just mesmerized by all them like i was telling travis who plays maxi and then was playing charles i was like oh my god i can't believe you did that and then mark too i was like oh my god i can't believe you know all this like they just they just hop in and they just know broadway will always it's always it always will be the most like

i was chocolate they didn't call me most of what part would you play if they if you could well i want to be your husband oh do you know the lines of course okay ready what's the first line they say? He says like Hey, slum. Charles, you all old slum ward. Put it there. What's the,

okay, the Maxian-Maxine interaction. What do they say? Well, then he talks about, oh, speaking of luggage, if you met my wife, my fourth wife.

You got to act, babe, if you're going to take the role, if you have to be an understudy, if you're going to be a swing. And then, ha, ha, ha. He's so mean.

So, you know, all the, you're going to play all the rolls. Yeah, he's so mean to me. I'm his fifth wife. I'm his fifth wife.

And then, oh, then you did a bow. And then he's like, yeah, have you met my? No, but then he's like, I know she's all buddy, but. He doesn't say she's all body. Like, body that doesn't stop. My baby's got a body that doesn't quit. That hasn't quit. And a brand that doesn't work or something?

Yeah. He's so mean. Anyway, don't want to give too much spoilers. Yeah, yeah, I guess I can't either. You got come and see it. Well, continue our promotions. Beetleju will be over in a week and I'm devastated. But fear not, Trish and audience.

I will be back on stage, November 30th in Long Beach. California to kick off Trish Miss, Sad Boy 2005 will be opening at both the Thousand Oaks and Long Beach show. I will be December as another busy month. I'm shooting another major TV show. I guess I can say that. I'm shooting another major TV show. I'm shooting another major brand campaign.

And speaking of Sandboy New music New music video New music coming out Get your tickets to Trishamist though Right we have new music we'll talk about that The MCR I'm also going to San Francisco Newark New Jersey

Philadelphia Washington D.C. And Vancouver So get your tickets today Trishamus is going to be so lit New costumes new songs New Christmas songs Our new holiday song is coming out

yes and then we did the new sad boy 2005 came out with their first music video in four years yeah it was so much fun to see the whole band and everyone it was so much fun it's like happy they're like and they're like i think the top comment on there was like target audience elvis and malibu and i was like yeah it was it was fun because so i like to like pride myself and like i am a newer mcr fan i did like kind of just discover them around pandemic time which i know they've been around as long as they've been around like 2006 well I guess like 2004 but I'm newer but I love when I can get like a niche thing right obviously black parade's huge but like I was like oh I'm going to do MCR yo gabba gabba every snowflakes different because the word is that gerard agreed to do yo gabba gabba because his daughter

who was probably like malbo's age at the time liked yo gabba which would be equivalent of me probably like doing like miss rachel or what are the like like you know coconut coconut now it's blueie sunny bunnies oh yeah blue like anything sesame street So he did it for that And I was like, oh, this is so niche But also like, you know, my kids would like it And they do love it They next to righteous gemstones misbehaving

They love every snowfl Like they want to watch it over and over And I was like so excited I'm like this is so niche And the MCR fans are like, this is so niche We love it And we shot at October 20th before we left And then like literally a week ago

It was announced the MCR My whole Twitter timeline is MCR news Is going back on Yo Gabby Gabba because it was 2011 when they did this song so that what is that how many years that 14 years later yeah like 14 years later now they're coming on yo gabba I feel like so I pushed it early it wasn't supposed to come out this musical after Thanksgiving but I'm like I need to put this out now because I like filmed this before universally aligned I guess with my chemical romance but I'm excited for them to see if they're doing every snowflake for my my yo gabba gabba or

if they're doing like extended or something new but I felt very I guess manifested it without manifesting it because it wasn't out there yet. Maybe they heard about it and they were like, hey, we need to jump the gun here. Yeah, maybe. Maybe they saw a little sneak peek somewhere. It's like, wait, that's ours. So that's what's been going on our life. Trishmas, Beetlejuice.

Thank you guys for coming out and buying tickets. It's, um, it really is so crazy to me. So crazy. People come to the airs of Trish tour came to Beetleju's. They have like their shirts that they came to the Broadway show in January. They have their playbills. like I met people from UK that flew in from Canada from all over the States it's quite amazing yeah it'll be cool to see people come to Trishmas with like their Beetlejuice playbill

like I saw you Beetlejuice and like to me that's like so cool because people did that I don't know just like I don't know it's like it means a lot that people come Trish Crave has come to like all of them obviously Daniel and Catherine and Brian and like you know all all our usual so it's autumn square pants why I love on TikTok like um It's been cool. I don't know. I feel very just like grateful and just humbled and excited and I've been very busy. So yeah, I'm lacking with my hot topic knowledge, but I've caught up a little bit.

As always, most of this is for entertainment purposes. Some of this is just, you know, also personal. Personal, maybe. Maybe. Maybe not. I'm on Broadway, so I don't know. I'm not really. You don't think it personally.

to the people watching or the people we talk about the audience don't think it personally we love you so much was that all our announcements I guess Patreon Patreon.com slash

just Trish Moses has his 30 minute podcast that we've been doing here because we don't have our bonus episodes so we do like a Moses's topics are what like he

there was something I don't know what it was he was giving me a topic and I was like that might be a Moses hot topic for Patreon because like It's so random. He's like, did you see the wedding ring? That's a can opener.

Well, it's not a can opener. He was excited about it. Back there, the man behind the car and he laughed. It's a beautiful ring. Some people said it looks like people were trying to criticize it. And then we showed me I kind of like the ring, actually. I was going to be. And then also, we do get a lot of comments of people that, you know, they miss the pink studio and all that. I know. We'll be back soon. It's really temporary. But we just didn't want to have nothing. You know, consistency is important. we want to fill and want to make stuff. Yeah, and next time we can bring our blankets behind us or we'll ship the blankets because we can put some pink and white blankets behind us.

I miss it too. I know we had the Nia episode go up and like one of my favorite episodes and like everyone's like the pink and white. I'm glad it sparks so much joy for people or like contentment or peace or safe space for people. Yeah, we said I try to wear more pink for you guys today. I literally like overnighted in an outfit here because I need to get some more pink in here. I'm trying to do pink. trying to stay consistent with pink but um yes we will be back soon patreon.com

slash just trish if you guys want to see the extended with our uh moses one we also have some other fun videos going up so check that out and i guess that's pretty much it's pretty much it we had jimmy here last week my sister will be here next week for hot topics we miss oscar terribly i was just next to go i'm like he's like i'm having hot topics which i'm like i know like one thing like oscar's irreplaceable with is just like knowledge the setup like he's so i mean there's lots of things fine but he is so we miss him too so i know uh he's just so knowledgeable hence why he has another full-time job in entertainment because he is so great he's so knowledgeable and um we'll be back in action soon it's not going anywhere i won't let him just kidding um all right

well here we go let's just jump straight into it jump into it my first one there's a lot of like toddler mom ones out there that I like wanted to talk about um millie by brown have you seen any of her paparazzi picks paparazzi no i've seen the premiere pictures oh yeah she's been out with her baby she's a new mom and she's been out with the paparazzi and she's like you know holding the baby but what really stands out because there's like multiple pictures she's with her husband and she is holding everything the car seat the baby she's like you know like lifting things like she's trying to steal the baby from the paparazzi she's like yelling at the paparazzi and the husband's just like trailing behind her not holding anything how is that even

possible i know everyone's like this is wild like i try not to judge relationships because i'm like and especially women can do everything too but almost like not having like someone i don't know he's right there with her basically and it's like because the thinking of it when i think about it it starts with the safety of the baby yeah so i'm like okay if you're holding the baby give me everything else right like i want you to be the most you know secure comfortable and i don't want you to trip or anything you know yeah so that's where it starts and then besides that you know like help her carry stuff like yeah she's like putting the car seats in she's taking them out she's like and he's like never in the pictures that are out circulating

now he's never um assisting interesting yeah what did it look like a real paparazzi or yeah called paparazzi. No, no, it's definitely real. And she's definitely, like, annoyed. She's, like, she's, like, holding a baby. Like, I stop, like, the baby's here. Like, she's definitely, like, annoyed. He's definitely, like, trailing behind her.

Yeah, so either, at least if it was, like, helping her hide from them or, that would be one thing, but I don't know. It sounds. Man, oh, my gosh. I know. And it's, like, again, hard to judge from just, like, one, a couple paparazzi pictures, but. It sounds like, we're just saying, hey, help her, please. Yeah.

help carry the baby or carry the bags in the car seat you know Millie Bobby Brown I just I don't want to like victimize her but I feel like sometimes I'm like damn she's been through so much like she like came out great like I do think she's like crushing it she has like she just did like her a makeup brand launch I think she had with Tana was there I talked to Tanna when she was like where was that she said she was like she was like so nice she was like they were on like an event with like loud music and like Millie by Brown was like can we turn the music down so we can hear the TikTok like she was so nice she's like crushing it and she's like very well like seems mentally you know well and stuff because she like had a baby very young and got

married like she seems like she's but I like just feel sad for her in some ways too because I feel like with like the paparazzi at the premiere like they were or the not paparazzi the I guess like the media people she had like a I don't want to call it like a chapel mom but a chapel where she's like left the photo line because they were like being rude to her and then you think about like the drake of it all who was like friends with her when she was 14 um the the David harbour allegations I guess like just I don't know I just feel like yeah I mean children in the industry it's always because I don't know her like as far as family like yeah what the situation is like are they when she was a kid that they on set is she like protected

is she you know what I mean like you see different kinds of actors yeah Some actors are just like child actor left to be and some the parents are at every second sheltering them and making sure everything is fine. I don't know what her. I don't either. I mean, like I said, she seems pretty like well adjusted, but I don't know. Fricky Mina's just recently talked about Hillary Duff's mom being like on set and like helicoptering her. He's like I couldn't even like talk to Hillary without her mom just like being there right next to her.

It's such a good. The kids. Yeah. I don't know. kind of tough because it's like okay when they're 14 right like it's just like any i think if it's just like a regular kid right like okay frankie minas and hillary duff are the same age and they like want to hang out it's like yeah i'd maybe like monitor it but you have to like sit like on the same bed as them be like hey guys well i don't think that's what i mean like sitting

no like literally he painted that he's like i could not talk to her about the mom being like right on top of me or her yeah i think i mean i think in on set and people in the industry i would Yeah, I would not leave her my daughter alone ever. Thank you so much to Golden Nugget Online Casino for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Huff, Pup, and Spin for even more ways to enjoy Golden Nugget Online Casino with the brand new Huff and even more Puff slot slot. New players download the app. Use Code Just Trish. Wager just five bucks and get started with 500 total spins on our player's favorite slot this fall.

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Vowed for future game only and expire each day after 24 hours. See terms at Golden Neckon Casino.com slash promos. Offer ends at 11. m. 3.m. Eastern on November 30th, 20, 25. Thank you so much to Golden Naga Online Casino for sponsoring today's episode. I don't even think of it as leaving it alone. It's like today when we're with a bunch of kids, like American Girl. And as like our kids are holding hands and like looking at Hot Wheels, it's like, I think there's like space to be given where it's like, yes, of course we're like looking where they're at, but I don't know if we need to be like on top.

You have 14 is a very different age. Like once they're in that. Oh, you think it's, you need to be more on top of them at that age or less? More. Oh, really? Oh. Yeah. Yeah, because there's more.

More than like a three year old? Yeah, three year old is just to make sure they're safe. When they're older, you make sure that there's much more. things can happen, especially in that kind of situation. I would like, I think I disagree on this one. I feel like a three-year-old, like I'm always just like, don't be mean, don't hit. Because you always see like things happen. Like, they hit this person or whatever.

Like, I'm very much like, I try to give the space, but I do want to be on top. And I'm like, I'm like from a farm. I feel like at 14. Right. Now, now it's the same, but they're added to that. There's like, you know, boys at 14 have a whole different now intention. Of course. Right.

So that makes it even worse. But you can't just like, let's say it wasn't on a set, like, our daughter's at school. You can't just be like every little, every boy that comes around. I'm talking about specifically, you know, it's a work environment. It's said actors are exposed to a whole different world. They're some of the, it's a whole different world, especially. I don't know. You see it with celebrities.

You see it celebrities. So many young kids of celebrities date older people. And there's a lot going on because they are exposed to it in a whole different way. I know. If they're, like, both the same age, like, Frankie and Hillary Duff, like, I just feel like, I don't know that, that is their high school. Like, I don't know if they want a parent to be like, can you just, can you let me have, like, one conversation without you sitting right next to me?

Like, I know you'll be the parent that is sitting right next to them, but I'm like, maybe don't be. Yeah, I mean, maybe over time if trust is a build and. I think you have to, like, let it, I don't know. I, I, like, disagree. I feel like at 14. Of course, I'm going to be in the same room. I'm not going to, like, I'm not that parent that's like, be in your room closed.

the door, it's going to be like, okay, they can come over, but we'll all be in the same room together. We're all going to be, there's no bedroom privilege, you know, but that'll be interesting when we're parents of teenagers. No, but hopefully we'll give them the tools that they won't need that. I'm going to be the more relaxed parent I have a feeling. You can tell. It's hard to know how you're going to feel about things until they're in front of you, right? Because what if she brings over the one guy that gives you a flashback? of a boy you dated in high school that was awful a 45 year old teacher exactly so i'm saying like if something you know will trigger your you'd be like i'm calling the cops i've been down this

path before i'm like this guy's not good for like how can you prevent how can you like they need to learn their life lessons but at the same time you know you can't just tell them they have to learn it on their own that part yeah there's a balance that's hard to cross that's why it's better to be kind of like aware of what's happening so you see them learn but like I'll see them go towards the fire but I won't let them burn like you know they'll be like oh it's hot let me not touch it kind of thing but I'm gonna let them get scars it doesn't make sense it's a hot topic it would be interesting to see if like yeah it will be an interesting like case study to see like daughters that grew up with like a good father figure in their life if they're like not attracted to 50 year olds when they're 18.

They say that. I mean, they say that they say that they date later on and they do like they say that everything happens a bit later on because I think they're not trying to fill in the father figure. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Well, Millie Bobby Brown, I like you. I like her. Congratulations, having a baby.

It's amazing. Yeah. Oh, she looks like super mom doing it. Like, I hate to be the, like, sexist reverse being like, why is the woman carrying everything and, like, maybe she wants to? It is possible that she's, like, not letting him do anything. I had a friend that when she had a baby, the husband was shut down and away. Oh, interesting. Like, stay away, don't touch it, don't do it.

Like, it was just her and the baby. So it's possible. It's possible that she's, like, hunker down. It's her and the baby right now. Yeah, like whatever, yeah, maybe he heard his back or something. But I guess if there was like a paparazzi pictures of us on a normal day, which there very well could be like, yeah, Moses is like he will be having all the strollers and folding them down in the in the car seats and buckling.

Like, you know, like, yeah, that's just what it is. But I don't know. That's our relationship and that's what it is and how we've established it. I love it. Me too. I do a car seat. I like to, I can buckle in a car seat, but it is nice. I always see those TikToks like nothing sexier than a.

dad who buckles in the car seat and it's true it's like when you like because it's so much it's not so much work but like it's so much extra you can't just like hop in a car anymore it's like okay i mean i have so many friends that like threw their back or had injuries while doing those things and in my mind i'm like okay you have 24 shows you have to be at the best shape you can't get injured you can't get sick if you get you sleep in night like everything has to be perfect so you do those 24 shows perfectly so like that's how i see it yeah well and i appreciate that. I know because early on we were trying to figure out the sleeping situation

and I was like I had to literally buy one of those like ice milk sticks for my eyes. I was like I'm going to have bags under my eyes because it's just like you are very wonderful. Especially because I was doing, I was supposed to be doing a TV show while I was here and like I was like oh my gosh it's like my biggest moment yet. I'm like I can't have bags under my eyes but luckily I got pushed

where I can like sleep but you always want to wonderful like that even at home. Even before the podcast even existed I remember I do like ASMR videos and I'm like I want you to feel awake and energized and I'm like Thanks. Very nice of you. So there's also Shea Mitchell, you know her?

Shea. Shea Mitchell. I think she does base luggage. I think she's the face of that. I think she's in you. I think that's the Shea Mitchell. She was in the first season. She was like the heiress.

Okay. I think, mm-hmm. I think, y'all. Toddler skin care line coming out. And there was, oof, the reactions are, off the bat. Is it makeup or is it skin? Skin care.

So like jelly masks, like hydrating masks were toddlers. She showed the first image was of a toddler and like a pink jelly mask. And people were like, no, absolutely not. This is dystopian. What are you doing? It's funny because on one hand, you know, you always say whenever you like touch my mouth by this face, you're like, your skin is so soft and perfect. And so I'm like, okay, they haven't had.

damage yet to their skin to even try to you know fix it or replenish anything and then on the other hand Malibu loves like the routines like she love if you tell her like oh we haven't a spot we were just eating breakfast having cucumbers she's like taking the cucumbers like I should lay down and put them on my eyes like she loves those things so if it's something that's more like the playful makeup that Malibu gets I can see that like that's fun but if it's like putting a message of like, you need to fix your skin at three, four year olds. But it wasn't even that message.

Yeah, I guess because we are toddler parents specifically to girls. Like, I do feel like you have to be a toddler parent to understand it because it's like, yeah, like I would probably look at it and be like, this is weird if you like weren't a parent. But it's like they do watch these like cartoons, like really innocent ones like Bebe Finn or something like that

where they're doing like a mommy daughter day and like, Mommy, you're my best friend and I love you. So like the really sweet songs. And it's like, show me how. to do it mommy show me how did I love this one because Melville always sings this to me and she's like mommy you're my best friend and so cute anyways in that one they're putting on yeah they do the cucumbers they put on the masks remember we did that one time the melba started eating the cucumbers

she like did it on her face and she like yeah I was like period actually speaking bags and with the eyes my makeup artist here in New York was saying like cucumbers actually work really really well they work the best they're like if you want to depuff your eyes get like actual cucumbers period um but yeah they see it on shows so Malbu loves the whole like nails everything like I had no intention of because I don't do skincare oh my god I do like a bar of soap like I don't but I was on the lookout on Amazon for masks to put on their face because they just they just love it even like Elvis like loves the feeling of just like it's just fun it's just like silly it's just something for them to like do and it's

sensory almost so yeah I think it's like I don't think it's like saying like anti aging or anything for them but I think like I think it's something I think it's something okay when AJ from the Backstree Boys on our podcast he was talking about like my makeup line for toddlers or young girls and I thought that was like so interesting because like we go to the we went to the FIO Schwartz

and they have a whole makeover section of like fake makeup and beauty and real makeup too same thing with Bippity Boppyty Boutique you know like there's this whole like market for young girls and I think people were like upset because they don't want it to be like oh you need this to feel pretty but I don't think that's like the angle, something not the angle. Our kids think or get the message up.

I never once am like, even then I do have to stop myself because sometimes I'm like, you look so pretty. Like just like in general and I have to like stop myself because it's like, yeah, your worth shouldn't be based on like you look so pretty now that you had this. So I know there's alternatives out there. Like you're like, you look fancy or do you want to get fancy today or something like or have fun on your face? Like something, there's like an alternative way to say it.

But for Malbu, it's never like I want to look pretty. Like her lipstick, she'll pull like all over her face. You know, it's just like, it's a sensory thing. It's something to do. It's a game. For her, it's a game. It's a playful thing. Because we always, we laugh about it because she'll, she'll put the lipstick around her

lips. And I'm always like, it's lipstick. Like, yeah. And then we joke about it and she'd be like, okay, go tell Mommy, I just put a tiny bit. And she's like, covered the whole face. I just put a little bit of lipstick. So she did it as a joke because it's a game. But I think to me it comes down to chemicals.

Like, is it safe? is it healthy what they're doing and price point you know like those two things because anything that toddlers like it's on their skin it actually gets absorbed they put in their mouth they eat things so it needs to be super safe yeah and and the price that you know makes sense because for some reason anything for kids is more expensive when it's actually less amount and less everything well i think that the whole point of the skincare line it is for kids like it's like all that stuff that you just mentioned it's like because yeah you don't want to put even my makeup wipes like i've used them like once on malbone it like made her skin red like so it is like meant for like toddler skin just like dental

stuff in it what i think is like brilliant because when we were doing those face masks i was trying to find something green to put on and i think at the time i got that wicked like i forgot what it was some collaboration i did and there was like wicked like um green hand cream and i was like putting it on our faces it's like a point on like the bus thing but i was trying to like imitate the video so I'm all for it I was getting like face masks for kids like these glitter unicorn ones off like Amazon and those weren't great either so as a parent I would personally love a face mask for a kid that's like not harmful at least their skin I don't know if it needs to enhance their skin their skin is perfect but or do what we do just actual cucumbers and avocado yeah yeah that I know that really is and everyone has told me the um that it actually works a wicked is coming up actually by the time you guys have seen this we will have seen Wicked for good we're going to the premiere oh my god these are flying by flying by the chances of the premiere being in New York when we're in New York oh my god on the day off which I think they probably planned because us Broadway performers we get

Monday off and Monday off only so I was super excited that it was a Monday I was super excited Lincoln Center I was supposed to originally go back to film this TV show in LA and I got postponed so it all worked out that I could do everything because I was like oh man I can't go to Wickham And I, as far as I know now of filming this, which is like a day prior to the Wicked premiere, I think I'm hosting on the red carpet for an outlet. So we'll see. We'll see. We'll see.

I mean, I'll be, if that happens, you know, I'll be so excited. If it doesn't, that's totally fine. I just would love to see the movie too. We have really amazing outfits being made. We have the outfits being made like a month in advance. Then I was like, oh, actually, you can't go because you're going to do the TV show. And then we paused these outfits and they're like expensive. They're the people who made my dress last.

year, shout out Gero Sparrow. And they're doing this crazy original design this year that I'm, like, obsessed with. It incorporates Glinda's Forger's dress. Like, I'm so excited. And then I paused it because it was like so expensive. I'm like, how far have you gone? Can I just, can you just keep the deposit? And like, and then I had to like restart it up again.

And I'm so excited. So that's happening. And we're going to Wicked and we're super excited. But hopefully the cast. Yeah. Now it's question of who's going to actually be there because it's going from going to see the premiere to actually you might interview the. the cast yeah i don't know how that works at all like i've never done this but you when i tell you

like everyone's like you have so many dreams i know but like this was a dream like i always when i would watch the oscars and stuff like that i always wanted to be the people on like the red carpet like interviewing um it just seems so fun and i don't know specifically these people i mean could be jonathan bailey could be ariana grandeur Cynthia riva like john em chew ethens like there's just like the cast is so stacked oh is what's the name again boniang no But Jeff Goldblum. He's always funny in interviews. I'll be so excited.

Anyone I can interview, I'll be so excited. And I'm really excited about that. But there better be no shenanigans because the wicked premieres took place in Singapore last week. And maybe we've seen the clip go viral on X and TikTok is Ariana being, I guess, attacked is the only word I could use. a tech by a fan who apparently has been doing this before. This is his thing. He did it to the weekend, Katie Perry and one more person. You remember the last time that Katie Perry, like somebody who was just like holding her and like jumping.

He did it the same way. It's kind of like. And if you look at the video closely, he's like jumping at her and people are pushing him, but he's grabbing on to Ariana's neck here, grabbing onto it as they pull him away. Oh, my gosh. And then you can see her reaction because there's so much happening. So you don't really see how much. And she's, you know, the dress is open.

She's like skin to skin on her neck, pulling her. And that's, that is an attack, you know, that's very serious. She's like a very petite girl. This is like a man doing this. Like I'm. And she's got the threats recently. She's been through situations where the war attacks. So she definitely has, you know, both PTSD and anxiety about things happening.

it's yeah she looked she looked scared cindia rivo jumping in to like that's the real superhero that was amazing like because like in those moments it had they all happen so quick right so like instinct is like so you don't know what is it fight flight yeah some people freeze so most people would like scream and run away you know they don't want to be caught in the situation yeah she went straight in oh she's like no absolutely Absolutely not. Like that's amazing because there was security around too and she was quicker than security. She was like absolutely not.

That's all she was closer maybe, but. No, but the thing is, so when you do security, what you're doing is you scan the audience. That's all you do. You're not looking at the person in front of you, which regarded like Billy Elish when, you know, somebody grabbed her. So you need to be there physically to quickly react to that. So here the guy was pretty far away and he jumped the barricade. At that moment already, everyone behind her should have jumped in front of her. He's with a white shirt.

He's jumping like you see him. Jumped the barricade, ran to them, still not stop. He managed to grab her. Like, that's failure in every level. Because just like when in the Twitchcon or the minute they're physically touching the person, that means anything could have happened. They could have been a weapon in their hand. They could have been a substance in their hand.

Like, it's a big failure. Like, the person could have got hurt seriously. And that's really bad. Yeah, I was really surprised And it's such a big premiere Like I was really I was just surprised How was he that in jail?

I feel like Singapore doesn't like mess around Like everyone always says Singapore is like The clean is like if you like spit gum out Like you get arrested Like my dad's been there multiple times Like everyone's like It's the cleanest safest place Because they don't they just don't take any

On purpose we're not mentioning in his name Or showing any image or anything like that He just wants it He has like Instagram And he's proud of what he's doing And he's bragging about not getting punished I think he got some fines in the past, but, you know, he hasn't been to jail or prosecuted. This situation, maybe, hopefully something more serious might happen.

But in that moment, they just, you know, escorted him out. And that was the end of it, which is not, that should not be the end of it. Police should be immediately called in and involved. So it's a tough one, but I think with his history, people should just not support him in any way by either viewing his social media or. Or giving him the attention that he's doing it for. I know, but how do you not when like Ariana Grande is attacked at Wicked Premiere? You know what I mean? Like that's like big news.

Like what? Right. But then to blacklist him, like his face should be plastered in every event, everywhere they should know never to let him anywhere near a venue or celebrities. Yeah, I guess it's just different. I feel like if it was here, like, I mean, they could probably arrest him, right? Like if you're attacking someone or you physically attack somebody. I don't know.

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Yeah. That situation was tough for them too. And she kept coming back. she's like a known stalker for him she called herself his divine wife so something you're like okay this is more than like this guy is doing it for attention this person is doing it because they believe something i've been loving the looks i've been loving like wicked supposed to be fun lighthearted like it's just like but she was Ariana got hate too for Brazil she couldn't make her flight because she had just finished uh the falker movie falker-in-law and she didn't make her

fight and be more mad about that it's like ah like i honestly I don't think I like could ever handle being like a list like I always like think I'd want to but like I don't think I could like to just feel so like like letting people down and people just like attacking you for like every little thing especially Ariana Grande I feel like I don't know God she just goes through it I feel like she tries to stay relatively quiet about her personal life yet gets attacked like they were just like genuinely so mad that she didn't come to the Brazil premiere I wanted to be there like why would I not want to be there yeah but I mean at least, you know, if people are mad because they want to see you and they didn't get to see you,

then it's some form of, like, strange love, you know? It's like, but when somebody is physically attacking you, that just creates a whole new, they ruined the experience for everyone that was there, you know. She was about to walk and talk and, like, at that moment, everything should get shut down. I think you really love someone. It's like, if they don't make it, they don't make it, regardless of the reason why. There was a really sweet girl. Oh, my God.

Like, literally, we were walking outside waiting for our car and, like, really sweet girl from London and she was just like you know kind of a picture she says you can you absolutely can say no if you want to it was like so sweet and I was like I don't know to me that makes me want to take a picture more with someone like that when they're like you know when they understand why you wouldn't want to because like whatever if you're like with kids or whatever I wasn't with my kids at the time but like it was it was really nice I was like I don't know because you don't want to let people down but then when you're on that big of a scale of Ariana Grande like inevitably you will let fans down because like you said I know what you mean like everybody does love you and wants to see you so then the

pissed that they can't but things come up well the bigger of a star you become the more distance is created between you and the fans and that's kind of like where that's why influencers and social media people are so different in what they deal as far as personal social relationships because there is no gap in distance it's the opposite it's like the more you share the more they're closer to you which is like it is nice like i do like it and and when we talk about colin we actually, that's kind of like the other spectrum of where the celebrity is actually crossing the line in the wrong way with fans. That's why it's a strange, it's a strange dynamic to have because you have power

and a fan is immediately like in the disadvantage and vulnerable. Yes. Towards the celebrity, but then you have the opposite of the people that cross the other side, like this guy that attacked Ariana. So it's like, so it's very, that line, whenever somebody crosses it, it's volatile. Yeah, tow that line. Happy news. Catherine Piaz is pregnant.

Ice family. Austin McBroom. Oh, wow. She is pregnant exactly one month after her wedding, she has stated to the day. Sounds like us. I think we're already the day. Well, but we found out we were probably. pregnant one month after oh okay yeah that's what she was like implying is like the day of the

wedding was the day she got pregnant yeah that's that was us yeah so I know that's not like I think some people were like that's us like what do you mean you you're just like yeah unless the baby's born like you know five six months after the wedding yeah yeah but I think ours was not to say we were those people that were like we're waiting until like it didn't matter we were trying to get pregnant before but it just so happened to be yeah on our wedding So I think if it didn't happen to us, maybe I would have been the same way. I'm like, sure, sure it was the day of your wedding. Does she have two or three kids?

She's three. With Austin McBroom. And their ages, I guess. They're older. They're like maybe, I would guess 10, 8, 5, 10, 8, 6. I mean, that's, I mean, I'm kind of, I'm shocked of how fast everything. I was so excited. But it's always fast, it looks fast to us.

Yeah. I'm sure it's not fast at all on the other side. Yeah, he would have been together a couple years and, like, You know, maybe they were like, okay, we'll try once we get married or something like that. Like, or like, you know, actually start trying. Like, I don't know. But I was so happy because I thought her wedding. It's so funny.

They show like the difference in like wedding pictures. And like, it's like annoying to compare like, you know, her wedding to him versus the wedding to Austin. But she did just look so ethereal and like beautiful. And like, gosh, you know, I think Julia Fox said this to me when I was on her podcast, like a couple years ago. She had said something like you glow differently when you're like loved, right? And I thought that was like so true Because when you see Catherine like She's always pretty

But she is just like She's so beautiful now She like literally looked at the area Like her wedding She had this like lace veil She looked like Mother Mary Like she was like literally glowing And it's it's so beautiful

But of course And Igor who was her husband He was like can't wait to be a dad Like he was like so excited Austin McGrume had to chime in He had to give his I know This is one thing he had nothing to do

I don't know, but I hope all of them are getting paid heavily and well by Snapchat because Catherine isn't announcing all this on Snapchat. So I'm like, I think they must be paying a bag, which I hope so. So she's also Snapchat. She's Snapchating all this, like the pregnancy things, everything. And I guess Austin was like live. I don't know if he's a Twitter. I don't know if he's a streamer.

I don't know what he's doing. But he was live and he was like very much like the most annoying thing is like, guys, I already knew. Like I'm like, finally. Finally it's like he's very that. Like of course you already know. Like you're like the father of her children He's like my children call me

But like and then he says at the end Like he's like he goes Can you guys all just like let us live our separate lives Like of course I'm happy for them I'm acknowledging this for you guys But like let us live and he says a little Feridian slip where he's just like let her live her life And let me live her life separately

Like that's what he said And it was like so funny Because it's like I don't know Like just always always Inserting himself It's like Think about when they were together Because you talk about that glow

he was sucking the energy of the relationship because it was always him in the center about him he was upset if things were not going the way he wanted them to go so um and now she's the star and he's still trying to feed off of her now and it's it's like which is weird like you would think you're such a narcissist go live your life like go create a whole new universe of yourself no yeah he can't but he's still trying to suck energy from everyone else around. She's not letting it. She has that divine protection around her and I love, love to see. I would love to talk to Catherine. I like, I would love to talk to her like on a podcast because I just think she's so like, I love a spiritual journey. You weren't here for when Jeff was here. He's coming up

this week. But like he talked about like his spiritual awakening. And it was so like amazing because he's like, oh, I don't want to get too into it. I'm like, no, I want to get into it. Like I want to get into it. Like I want to know what that's like. I even shared a little bit more about my spiritual awakening with him. Like I literally shared a lot of it because it's so different for everybody. And it's like weirdly they have kind of the same stories because I think Catherine did ayahuasca I think is what she had said I think that's how she met Igor yeah and then Jeff also did an ayahuasca experience where she's talking about this week on the podcast which was so interesting very different than Catherine's it was very different but um there is something to it I mean look

I'm not doing I'm not going to do iwaska I mean but I respect people who like they really do seem transformed and I feel like I got transformed in a different way I'd share what that was but I like it. Yeah, it's important. It's important also to acknowledge the plus and the like there is a danger. Like I know people that like myself did it once. It was transformative. It was great. And that was it was the end of it. And I know people that they kind of join the ayahuasca church and they do it frequently. And they kind of lose touch with reality a little bit. So, you know, it's just important to know that that exists too. Like. Yeah. But people lose touch with reality no matter what they're doing.

But people that do it once or twice, the transformation is pretty big. Because there's so many ways through meditation, other substances, there's so many ways to go through that kind of like basically an ego debt, you know, where you break that barrier between you and the world. Because until that moment, you only see yourself. And people around you are kind of like computer game people. Like they're not real. They don't have feelings.

they don't have thoughts they don't have like you don't have an effect on them so people like that go around and hurt people and do things and they don't understand how they affect other people and that other people are just another version of you with the same depth and the same everything but when you do those experiences that veil drops and suddenly you become one with everyone and you see that so it you know like so you can see like the austin macrum it's all ego and somebody like Jeff shedding that sadly I haven't seen it yet I can't wait to see what he said about it

yeah it's eye opening and completely I was like so there was no defensiveness for me I was not on like I was not doing any jokes or jabs that I'm like I was so like impressed by his just like being like truly truly truly truly I was like he must have had a completely different

energy coming off of that sunglasses off hat off like him like it was crazy but I do love seeing Catherine and like I do I love that. I love she having a baby. I feel like she's a good mom. Like she seems like she's just like really involved in her kid's life.

I feel like she stayed for as long as she did for like the kids and like trying to be, you know, peaceful. So I can't wait to see like her birth and her happiness and like just getting to be with the guy who like is just present. And I wish Austin the best to like it kind of makes me sad and not in like a patronizing way, but it kind of like no one wants to see that X that just can't let go that can't move on like I mean just constantly talking about your ex even he's like I'm happy I like I'm happy for her this is great news like just let them have their moment you don't need to insert yourself

you don't need to comment on every single thing that happens from here and out with her like no because it doesn't matter what he says the fact that he says something even he thinks if I say I'm happy for her then it's great like no if you say nothing it's great yeah like just like you thinking that you're happy for her is the right thing to do yeah is wrong here you're I just, I don't know. It shows you, it shows volumes of how she, like, what have they done since the breakup? She found somebody she loves. She was writing a family.

He seems to be a good father to the kids she has. And hopefully, you know, the new baby. So, like, she's building a family. She's building a future. What is Austin doing? Yeah. Like, where, like, that's what I'm saying. It kind of feels sad because it's like, it's one thing if you're, like, traumatized by someone, right?

We've seen people go through traumas from people, whether it's, Jeff with David or Adam with Colleen like and I feel like then it's like hard to not talk about it because you see someone's face it's like triggering so but like Catherine did nothing to him and he like knows that but he's like weirdly like just keeps

talking about her and it's like you're the one who mess up it's like the net farmer right it is the net filmer of it where it's like stop just stop talking just stop talking about it because you're triggering all of us like just stop like they did nothing to you you're doing everything to them and you won't stop doing it to them and I think that's what's like so

frustrating with him and like I think he still has fans like I mean I think there's people who probably still like him so I don't know just he was he did a TikTok with Shottie Bay the other day that one that's like um he did that with his ain't and the insane like he did that with it's like I like that duo I was like why don't you go do that because like I like Shottie Bay I like him it's kind of funny and like random and like unexpected and I think keep doing those kind of clubs and stuff like that like that's you know like I'm so am I positive, like people can change. And I really want that for Austin

and also for Catherine. It's giving Julia Fox saying she dated Kanye to like give the Kardashians a break. She said she dated Connie. Did you hear that? She says she dated Kanye to like get him off of the Kardashian. Like, you know, but that's what she like

said. I believe her. I love Julia Fox. We hit up Julia Fox while she was yours. I don't like, I think we hit up her people. I have people. Now I have like a booker that helps me and we like reach out. I don't know if she like just wasn't available. Whatever. We love really thoughts. And I remember she said that and I was like, yeah, like period. Yes, you should.

So like for Catherine's sake, Austin, I'm not saying you need to date someone. In fact, I don't think you should be dating somebody right now. But do those clubs. Be a clown if you want. Like, you know what I mean? I think there's like something like entertaining about clowns. You know what I mean? I think like be a clown, but just, you know, like a kids party clown, not like a like a clown

in your wife's business, you know, ex-wife's business. I don't know. there's just something sad about it and like and it's okay it is okay if he's like still like kind of obsessed because like rightfully so he probably is just like I don't know it's just weird though because he like cheated I don't know he does seem like obsessed and like it's okay it's kind of okay to be like that but not online not when you have kids you think it just looks a little yeah that's the main thing is there there are kids involved and they see all of this and I would just for their sake and my relationship like sake of my relationship with them

but he doesn't think about that yeah I guess I know I think that's why it's good that somebody like Jeff for example does something that's more spiritual spiritual and transformative because it opens up the door to people that normally would not think about that because I'm like you know Austin did something of that nature it would be very transformative but I don't know you know you can't you can't force somebody no change and you can't like they want unless it's coming from you know from their own maybe he should he should go Ned's rock bottom podcast. There's a lot of people who should be going on

Ned Fulmer's Rock Bottom podcast. And like, yeah, I just, I think that's like frustration when we're going over hot topics today is like when people just like can't see that like they're in their own way. Me included, okay, like I'm, I will always be the first to say that like over the years. Like God, like I really just like blocked so much of myself. People always ask me now, you really are the queen of manifestations and you got everything you want it.

And I was like, God, I just like could not get out of my own way. Like I kept having to like just like ruin every little thing. If things are growing right, it's like sabotage. I couldn't, I couldn't be aware. I couldn't like look at myself. There was like literally there was like all these mirrors in my house but like could not like see the reflection. Like it's I don't know.

I guess it's like when you're online, you see yourself differently than how you really are. But what's great about online and that's why I like love about and I will always love about social media, it is like holding a mirror to yourself because like if there's a majority coming for you, right? like the majority is usually not wrong like if you're like everybody is wrong except for me which again was my mentality for a very long time like everyone's crazy that's not my heart they don't know me like until you can like really kind of grasp it and be like maybe maybe I keep getting all these comments that what I'm doing is not good maybe I need to re-evaluate why I'm like this

also acknowledge like oh maybe I am what people are saying and how do I fix this and how do I change this. But the Austin McBrooms, the Neds, the Colleen, like, it's like, it is just like, excuse deflection. Let me think of a different word to make it sound better. It's like, rather than just like, yeah, I'm sorry. I fucked up. Like, you know, like, I don't know. I think some people are like allergic to the word. I'm sorry. And like apologies. And like that I think it's just like frustrating. And it's, I mean, I know it's frustrating to fans. I know it's frustrating to people who are haters do. But also frustrating to like, I don't know. just content creators too. It's just like,

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cards, like it's, you build it up and you create a certain reputation and certain idea of who you are to defendants in the world. But when that's not real and it breaks down, they don't want to give away the pedestal. They still want to stay on the pedestal that they were standing on and there's no humility and there's no, you know, people need to be humble and be like, okay, you know this is step down from the pedestal and if you want start building it up again on a better foundation and it will be stable and it will stay there but they don't let go they want to stay on that pedestal everybody's wrong and never did that they never meant that and like okay so everybody like then you lose everybody yeah yeah i mean sometimes influencers yeah like yeah

they don't they don't feel like grasp it i've been knocked on a lot and like like grateful and now hindsight, looking back, like grateful for all of it because it's just like, damn, I really had to self-reflect. Even in instances like where maybe I wasn't like totally at fault or something like that, but like, you know, instances where there's like two to tango, but it's like, okay, but there's still something in turn. That's still something about me that's like causing all this. So it's like, yeah, you really have to like look at yourself and figure it out.

And I say this all at a place like, not judgment. I say this out of a place of like been there, been in the influencer space of being like everyone else is wrong but me. Not as extreme as some of these cases, but still been there. Sad news. Mr. Marbles, they are preparing for end of life for him. Julian, her husband now, Julian Solomita. Streamer held back tears by saying that he doesn't feel like being there on the stream.

He's 17 years old, Mr. Marbles. Wow. And they're like he's just, yeah. And they, like, loved their dogs. Specifically, I know Jenna, I don't watch, I didn't watch a lot with Julian, but I know Jenna was, like, obsessed. She had Kermit and Mr. Marbles and, like, as most people are obsessed with their dogs. Like, I don't know what my sister will do without her dogs.

Like, dogs are, who was I talking about this with? I think I was talking about this with Tanna yesterday. Like, and it's like, I've never had dogs and I never got to, like, be like a close bomb, but I see it. And I understand it because, like, as I was telling, like, I think I was telling Tanner, maybe Jeff, maybe Jeff, because he has a dog. And I was just like, they are just there. to love you. They are helpless. They just want to be loved and you just take care of them. And there's

never even an age. It's not even, it's almost like deeper than kids because for some people, right? Because it's like they'll never get to the stage of like being 13 and being like, I hate you mom. Or like they go out and like live on their own forever. They are with you. They are by your side. They are loyal. Like I'm getting it more as like an adult. I think I was always like scared of dogs. Like I just is like, you know, I don't know. I think I had some like PTSD from an attack. But I get it and it's like Man when you lose that dog My sister's so close to her dogs

Like they are her kids They are her kids They are like Yeah And usually they don't live that long 17 years is a lot And then to just have to like And how old is she

That's probably half of her life She's like my age Maybe a little older Maybe like 38 39 And it's just like You know She's been off of YouTube I assume we're tired

I don't know if she's like doing anything but I would assume she's retired and like well that's their like she'll have a guardian angel soon because they stay they stay around they don't leave the spirits of the dogs yeah she might see him and he'll be around so sad

and I never really get tearyed about stuff like this but then I was watching some clips of Julian and I was just like damn like him too you could just feel it like he was just like I don't like he couldn't like do the stream he didn't feel like talking about it like he's just like I'm just and like break down and cry and it's just like and I also feel like the added like level of like parisocial right that people feel with Mr. Marbles like people loved her dogs too

and I feel like it's just like a whole like internet mourning right we like lost Jenna in the sense of like she's not on YouTube anymore but then it's like now we're losing Mr. Marbles like so sad because I think you've mentioned something about when you were there of a dog that was Kermit okay Kermit we can insert a picture of me and Kermit first dog I ever loved and I mean that so sincerely like I had a real like fear of dogs that turned into like it made me like not like dogs quote unquote like I'd just be scared I'd be like can we put the dogs away like I'm just like I was really really scared and Kermit was the first one that was like so sweet there's like a picture of me cuddling with him like literally just like curled

up in a blanket like holding him and like leaning on him because he was so cuddly he was so cuddly and so sweet I've never felt that connection with the dog there was a dog that stayed with me in 2019 and I did talk to that dog. That dog is the dog that knew my passcode, which I still stand by to this day. And that's what I was like, dogs are smart. How did he? Because it's one thing to telepathically tell me my passcode. It's another thing to know my passcode.

How did you know it? Do you know what I mean? Like, how did he? Yeah, they know everything. Yeah. Really interesting. But I am so, I'm so sad. I'm like really sad.

And I'm parasy with Jenna in the sense of like she was very, she was like probably the nicest person to me the one night we hung out. And. It breaks my heart. I, like, want to reach out, but I like, don't know how I like that. So I don't. Yeah, because what can you say? Yeah.

And I know, I know she's probably just like, yeah, everyone's like sad for her. But like that's just a whole look. I love both. I do see all the time recently on TikTok, kind of like a dog psychic, animal psychic. They talk to the animals and stuff like that. And it's really interesting because the one, the first one that came up was her talking to like somebody's cat. Like people will bring their pets if they have an issue trying to. figure out what's going on.

So she was talking to this cat, but then they had more time. And the cat was just like, do you have any questions? So anyway, the cat was just telling her about the universe and life and everything. Oh, after he passed. No, no, he's alive. She's kind of like communicating. This person talks to animals. They're alive.

But you know this person is going on TikTok. No, no. They keep coming up on TikTok. So, and the last one that came up, she was just walking on the street and she was like telling somebody like, by the way, your dog doesn't like what you're watching on TV. Like things like that. She was like, hear their thoughts? And she was, oh, they talked to her.

She was like, oh, yeah, you always barked when I'm on the phone or on my phone. It's something like that. Anyway, the point is, you know, maybe Jenna and Julian, they can, before he passes away, have somebody that can, you know, they can have a last conversation with him. Or they could do some mushrooms and then hear him talk. Never know. I really do get that. Well, you never know where that's going to go.

I think the dimensions the world, you know, there's like layers. And I think there is another dimension where, like, animals. are talking completely and fully. Yeah. Well, I think animals and plants are constantly in that space. We're the one that's excluded from that space. I don't know if this might be a hot topic or a hot, but an issue. Moses stopped being vegan because he discovered plants were also conscious. So he's like, well, if we're eating plants, kind of equivalent to animals.

And so it's like, well. Yeah. Some people would say, well, plants don't have nerve system and this and that. But, you know, some studies show that when you cut a piece of plants, If you plug in certain equipment, you're almost like, you'll scream. Or there's a signal. There's a thing. It cries a little bit.

Yeah. Or like plants know when you come home, when you're away, things like that. But I think it's not, I think our mistake is separating between plants and animals. It's all about single cells. They're just in different structures. It's like different architecture. Yeah. So like a plant is like a building and an animal that's moving around.

It's more like, I don't know. We don't have something like that. But let's say a cruise ship. It's in movement, but it's the same architecture. You still have the same single cells that are conscious moving around. So it's really all the same. Are we the Maitlands? 2.0.

Every time I hear it in Beetlejuice, he is like, all right, guys, shows over. I know it says my name on the Marquis, but now you get the Maitlands, the most boring show ever. I was like, are we the Maitlands right now just talking about plants crying? I love it, by the way, but I just am like, I'm so self-conscious. I know the comments will hopefully be nice, but they'll be like, no, we love it. But like I get so self-conscious about our, I don't like a couple videos, like, am like things. Like, whatever, we are who we are. But it's so funny, like, podcast.

I'm like, the things we talk about, I do love them. But I'm like, oh, my God, are people, people still out there. No, but people know we're away. So it's like there's so many things that are happening. The set is different. The thing is different. The, you know, Oscar is not here. We miss him.

Everybody misses him. So it's like, everything is a bit different. Yeah. And it's more matter of like, like I said, it's more about consistency and people that are used to, you know, they're on the way to work or they're doing something. Yeah. No, no, I love it. I do love it.

And our audience is very wide, you know, like there's some people that are like spirituality, conspiracy. But in reality, the podcast is about pop culture and hot topics. Yeah, yeah. No, I loved our plant. Divergent. No, and then Yashri I did like Jeff. And then I did Jeff FM.

So he did Josh Rush. I did Jeff FF. And then Tana and I had to do. not love lines main and Patreon so like like Tanner probably could have jumped on a gesture but we had not love lines too like we're doing three podcasts a week three videos on Patreon the week for each one so and eight shows a week on Broadway

no we're not taking a break even though we're yeah this was our this was our and I do I do love it and I do love talking to you I mean it's like it really is the easiest for me because maybe my demeanor's like different because I just feel like with Moses I'm just so much more like this is the relaxed version of Yeah, this is us at night, eating dominoes. You need that one episode.

Do you want to fall asleep too? You go back to this one. Yeah, I love it. No, I'm like, I'm sleepy in a good way where I was just like, even when we started, I was like, we got our teas, we got our coffees. I didn't sleep at night, so it's. Yeah. We're sleeping for a different reason, but we wish you well, Mr. Marbles and like sending condolences

to Jonathan and Julian. All right. Well. Which one? I don't know. I guess take your pick. I guess Ned Falmer. I mean, I don't think we would be talking about any of these people if they didn't

keep talking. Do you know what I mean? And it's so funny because like Ned's like, we're just, we did this to move on. So move on. Like it's just so funny. Like the explanation, the apology, the explanation, the apology to like this one like, like, well, what episode, but also like you're cheating. Like it just continues.

It just keeps going. And the apology for cheating just keeps evolving. And it's just like so wild. And he always pops up on my TikTok, FYP. Always. Like, I always see this. That face is a crazy face. And I'm in my piece air.

I'm having so much fun. I just want to be an actress forever. Like, I'm an actress air for real. We did a self-tape today, which I love doing a self-tape. I love a self-tape. Every time they're like, this is a self-tape for a pilot series regular. I was like, I really think I did kind of good on that, though. I feel like that could be my character.

It was a role that's like comedic, fast speaking. I was giving sitcom and I think it's a sitcom. I hope it's a sitcom. That'd be crazy because you're like. If we did comedic and it's like, because I was like, do you have any notes? And you're like, well, I think it's supposed to be like over the top sitcom. Is that what I was doing? Which I think I was doing.

But that would be crazy if it was like a White Lotus like feel. You can tell from the script because it was like so many words and so many like I could, you can tell the character. I nailed it that at the end. But anyways, I am my actress era. So like really I don't. I don't want to be talking about an ed. fulmer but damn like you keep popping on my page and that face that face is crazy that face is like I don't know that face is crazy and I'm not talking ugly I'm just talking about like it just looks

like someone's just trying to weasel his way out of everything and it's just like so absolutely wild so he talked about episode one of his rock bottom podcast which he's done so many episodes since I'm not sure why he's still talking about this revealing slash throwing under the bus that his wife It was his wife, Ariel's idea. It's just like a weird thing again, once again, like putting blame. Like his, his thing was it was Ariel's idea to do the podcast as how they had to move forward. And it was also her idea because she has stake in the channel. She's like a shareholder in the rock bottom podcast, which I'm like, okay, well, you just started.

But okay, weird on a lot of levels that he revealed that one is like doesn't make her look good. Like, girl, what are you doing? Why are you supporting this? Two kind of throwing her under the bus. Like, it did not go over well. So he's like, well, it's actually Ariel's idea. And she's a stakeholder. So she's like getting money off of this.

So that's why she wanted to do it. So like kind of cheapening the reason why she did it. The whole thing was. Well, I think he was trying to also kind of like protect himself from the attack. He's like, no, if you're attacking me or also attacking her. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I think he's trying to shield himself.

Yes. She's like a human shield now. Stop. And that's another one. Just like stop using your wife. Like stop talking. Like, oh, my ex wife. Ex wife to both of them, both Austin.

And like it's so. And she's like not there and it's just like, I don't care if you talk about it behind the scenes, whatever. It just does not make you look good. And I hate to be like the man or whatever, but like as the man. Like why are you throwing her under the bus? Why are you saying this all? Like just just keep moving on like you said. And then he tried to like, he's like, you know, that was Ariel's story.

So that's why I kept quiet. He's like, don't judge me on the 15 seconds you saw. Oh no, Ned. I actually was seated for all hour of that because I didn't want to judge you on the 15 seconds. And it was worse. It was worse than the 15 seconds because you constantly were just like, yeah, the dream was ruined for me too. You ruined it. Like, I watched.

I can quote it. I can quote it. I watched all of it. Like, so I was just like, I feel gaslit. And I do not like to feel that. And I never feel gaslit by very many people. But like, I was feeling gaslit. I was like, no.

Okay. So then he's like, this is my story. We don't want to know your story. We do not want to know your story. We know your story. And it's awful. It's awful. And there's nothing you can do about it.

Yes, it's in the past. Yes, you have to move on. But like that includes moving on. Like, he talks about how, yeah, he like brings up again. Yes, I had an affair with one. in my point, like just so many levels of awful. But his attempt was to, it was like a 10-minute TikTok. Yeah, yeah.

And his whole thing was basically telling us how he took him three years to understand how much of a, oh, it was basically. I'm like to learn how to be a normal decent human being, just to be able to listen. And like the simple stuff. And I was like, okay, you really, you know, you meet sometimes celebrities that are awful and you realize, okay, you were that awful person and now you're slowly trying to understand

how do I talk to people? Like people are equal. People are the same. I should be nice to be. I should listen to people. I should understand what they're saying. He's like I had to go to therapy to find out why I was like cheating. Like what do you mean?

Like what? Like that's just so wild. It's more like I had to go to therapy to find an excuse to tell people why I cheated. Yeah. So of like being like, okay, this is I just kind of could not control myself. and I had nobody else in mind besides myself and, you know, like all those selfish things. Period. Like you cheated. Done. Okay. You had to wife on. You don't have to be like,

she's making money off this too. And if you hate me, you hate her. It's like, no, we just hate you. Like, I hope she makes a million dollars off. I wish she would off that podcast, which I'm sure she isn't. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's not about her. This is about you. And just like lack of accountability over and over and over again. And then it keeps going back to the podcast being like, oh, I just want to make this podcast to help people and talk about. Yeah. Like, this is not the position you're in. No, I don't think you're in the position to help anyone.

I think maybe if you're like doing some work. No, I don't think so. I really don't think you're in the position to help anyone on this. Because because like I like the idea of a rock bottom podcast if it's like Robert Donnie Jr. hosting it, right? Like, I mean, he had some rock bottoms and it's like, okay, yeah, he was able to like have some success after it. I like the idea of a rock bottom podcast. if it's like, yeah, someone who like really did this like transformation, you know,

and like really changed themselves. Like very few people could do a rock bottom podcast and actually help people. I very few. Right. I think for Ned, if he like, you know, go to like habitat for humanity, go build houses for people in areas that need digs and whales, help people get water, like the basics, like starts from the basics of like just helping people. For his podcast or just for himself to be a better human.

If you want to communicate something to the world, that's what, like, the action and the things. It just did too many words to describe how it was awful and he was trying just to become a decent human being. And, like, even in that, you're not doing a good job. So you're not there. Yeah. You're not a decent human being yet. You know, it's like, you're still. Like, not at all.

And it's just like, I just, oh, God, I mean, like I said, I'm kind of just exhausted talking about him. But, like, you're infuriating to someone who's at peace. I feel like I am one with my Zen self these days. And it's like, I don't know why it's like it enrages me just, just enough to be like, okay, I guess we'll talk about this. It takes all my might not to TikTok about it because I see it on TikTok. I'm just like, we don't want this. We don't want the rock bottom podcast.

Again, putting on like my positivity spin for awesome groom, like, you know, Ned. Yeah, I want you to be well. life. I don't think we want this podcast. I don't think we want to see your face for a little while. I think we need to take more time. You know what I mean? Because it's like you tried.

And, you know, we keep saying the face, but it's really more the tone. Yeah. The tone and the way that he's speaking about those things, you immediately get the sense of who's in front of you. And I'm like, you're lecturing to us slash gaslighting us slash men's playing to us. Like it's a really, like it's not coming off from a place. And that's why there's nothing wrong. with his face is just the way he's talking to us.

Yes, yes. Feels like you're still looking down at us. You're still looking down at us and telling us like that we're wrong and that the internet did you wrong. Yeah. And like everyone is at fault here and you should still be the pedestal you were doing the same content you did. Yeah.

Like when the band is broken. Like there's no, how many members of a band broke and took off a solo career and were successful? John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Very few. Like where's Ringgo? Right. like where is wringo exactly he's in beverly he was making peace signs but all i'm saying is like

i'm saying is like he's he's a he's a person that broke a band and now he's trying to do something i'm like no obviously oh i like you you were you're the reason you were somewhat okay in a group setting and even then people didn't really like you now you broke that group and you're on your and you're trying to do something i don't think so like it's not yeah who broke a band that it was like their fault that there was like you're the reason i think i think people was yoko ono as far as the beetles well i guess that's yeah people like blamed her but that's a little misogynistic probably not right probably not i mean i don't know we don't know that but like is there someone who just like was so wild and just like could not keep the band get like we had to kick him out i feel like there

i'm sure there is i'm just not good like history of you know i think i feel like someone probably just like up a band all the boy bands nothing like that happened like uh from in sync Usually they just leave because they're like trying to be a soloist. Their career gets too big or something like, you know, but no one this crazy, this diabolical. Like, you are so right on that. Like you broke up the band so diabolically and like also like ruin just like everyone's career that worked for you and around you and this company and this editing.

And just like the like you really just blew up. Yeah, that was the thing. It's like cheating is one thing and that is crazy. And we do not like a cheat or awesome and broom. But it's another thing to like do it with like your employee that's like on camera and that everyone knows and that like your company relies on it. just like you just ruin everyone's likelihood. Like that's also like that's like another level.

That's like an extra step that you have to work a little harder, build a few more wells to get out of. So yeah, I think you really just need to take a little more time. And I think it's not coming back on a podcast or a trying, attempting series. I don't know what it is. I don't. I just don't see it in the cars because like try guys were like, like their content

was because like people like them. But like we love these guys. These are just like some next-door guys, the guy that loves his wife, the tall, goofy guy that sings, the other little guy with glasses and a hot guy with good biceps. You know what I mean? It's like they're like the relatability. Oh, they're trying things. They're trying to cook. You know, I think I never watched try guys, but I'm assuming that's why they liked it.

And just take a little more time. Hopefully, you know, just, I don't know. Again, you went to school for chemistry. Like, go, go. So it would be, you know what it would be his comeback, curing cancer? Could you imagine? I think we might all rally behind him. I think we might be like, good job.

And he like came public with it. Like I do think there's a cure for cancer. But what if he's like found one that is attainable to everyone? He's like, I'm going to leak this on my YouTube channel. That's the podcast we want. Maybe you could do it. I love that we were on the same page of that. I know.

Somehow my mind told me that's what you're going to say. Yeah. All right. Well, maybe someone who will be on his rock. bottom podcast as she's making the podcast rounds calling bounder like like oscar sent these in the notes right and he's just like i know you're trying to keep it non-drama and light as we are here in new i'm just i'm having a great time i don't like to dwell in the past too much especially my own past where it's like this was a lot this was a i would say this i wouldn't say it's a rock bottom for me

this was a this was a weird summer for me okay two years ago with so there's i don't want to call a drama because it's not so trauma for me. Maybe other people for sure. But I'm not going to lie. It was a rough. Was a rough. It was the most anxiety I've ever had was the summer of 2023, June of 2023. It was so much anxiety.

Like, yes, this person set my nudes to make fun of me to fans. That part is crazy. But I think it was like more crazy just getting like voice memoed, being voice memoed, bombed, like for like just every day all day while I had like a nine month old and I was like going through everything and I was just like it was a lot it was so much it was so much and I'm like laughing through like uncomfortability and Oscars like you could just keep it like light as we were discussing too it's like I don't want to get in the weeds but at the same time I feel like this is a platform and I do want to use it to speak on things that I do feel like

strongly about I think there's things I always say like I don't know I always ask me anything that I have like a hard stance on and I think like a hard stance is like you know this power dynamic this you know older person gaslighting younger people using them manipulating them and then just never taking accountability and apologizing like it is a trigger on like a different a different level so Colleen is back and again I'm gonna keep this like so light because it's just like because also the real like like the conversation, it's almost not so much about her, but about the interview, like the podcast itself and the whole thing, because it seems like between Ned and all those people, like,

it seems like they wait two to three years, they come up with a PR plan of like, okay, this is the comeback, this I'm going to do it, and it seems like this was a very calculated step. And because when I watched it, I was shocked. I mean, the interviewers were literally handing her the talking points. as she was going through it. Because we know she's not going to apologize. She's not going to say anything different. She's actually the same where she was all throughout this process.

But the way they were like trying to give her excuses and, and instead of just asking questions, they were giving her the talking points that are completely PR and away. Yeah, I don't think it's their fault. I think they're like, it was like a setup to kind of make it. But I don't know so much as a fault as part of the plan. like they like whatever the PR machine is they were either hired or like they were part of it like

the way they came about it was very specific and when you read everything they said and every question they were literally telling her like well maybe what she did wasn't um you know malicious but it was just bad judgment maybe like they were talking there was one point that I was shocked. Like, they were talking about how they were telling her, like, it's not her fault because her fans gave her permission to be inappropriate with them. Wow. Wait, what?

Yeah. And we're talking about, we're talking about the whole thing is like, power dynamic between an adult and a child, which they kept calling them a younger audience or younger people. They would not say children underage. So the problem with that paradigm is that they cannot give you permission because they have no judgment to give you the permission and they were children she was like they were teenagers i mean i think adam was like i don't know 12 or something i don't know maybe they were young they were like i think at some point it was 14 but that's probably over the years and yes so they were all young

who so they said they said they said they gave you permission to be inappropriate like how in what capacity what were they referring to and that it felt um probably probably specifically with the underwear being sent oh this one i did see and all of that and all of that Like the way they frame all those things. This is what I'm saying is like like how about just don't even talk about it. Like if you're just going to keep sidestepping or like just lying about it, just sidestep it completely, completely miss it. If this was a PR interview or any interview, just like edit that question out because like it's it's proven. There's clips proven.

Like that's what I'm saying. When there's like hard concrete, there's no way you can misinterpret it. Right. There is a clip originally put out where it looked like Adam was at Adam McIntyre was asking for underwear on like this. like streamed that like Corey and Colleen were doing the clip was edited in the full clip. It was them specifically Corey being like Adam should wear the underwear because it would like look good on him or something like that. Right.

So it's like they were the ones initiating the sending the underwear of. So it's like I think that's like that's what's so frustrating. Right. There's so many like way she steps around this right. It's just like, oh, the things that weren't true. And yeah, there's probably some things out there that weren't true being like so it kind it takes away from the stuff that was true but like why are you keep talking about stuff that like was proven true you you sent my nudes to johnny that's proven true you're and like

that's what's so crazy is like her other friend that was like holding my news up in the picture is like a friend that's like not online like that was when she knew like caught like there's no photoshopping there's like that's like that's like that's like concrete proof right obviously she didn't bring that up but i'm like saying with adam too there's like concrete proof in this whole underwear situation you initiated it you sent it to him done he was a minor a child Not a young man, a child. And it's like, okay, you're trying to not have that come up again. So just don't talk about it.

Because the more times you just say it's a lie or I think she was like trying to insane wait again that he wanted it or whatever. It's like, well, basically she was saying that he, the way it sounded that what actually happened is like, you know, she's. It's hockey season and you can get anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no. You can't get a nice rank on Uber Eats.

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Yeah, yeah. No. She's the one that's supposed to stop all this. But then she was trying to say, I am trying to please my fans. So I do what they ask. me to do. And that's my fault that I'm so greatly connected with my fans. And I try to give them what they want. And this is my whole persona. So basically, you know, it's like when you go to a job interview and people ask you like, what's your fault? You know, like, oh, I'm, I'm very, too giving to my fans. Yeah. What do you mean? Something that is actually a compliment for you. This is something that, again, is just like so concrete that this is so inappropriate. Like, everyone agrees on it. She agrees that. Stop talking about it. Like, it was inappropriate.

it like you know what instead of stop talking about like apology too it can go a long way on this one this is out of mackinty right this is something i watched his initial video just watching the eclipse and he was like so triggered by this like more so than he thought and i'm glad the comments came to his support and i wanted to as well and i'm very i very much show the line too with reaching on to adam because it is very much like i never want to be that person as like now we're on good terms i'm trying to be on your side and we're banding together so it's like because it can come across manipulative right in so many ways so i'm never with any drama channel i try not to be too much like thank you for the video or whatever like I'm very much like but I'm glad the comments came

to a support because um you can and I'm like I feel like I also feel this way right like so many things I thought was like totally okay and I was totally fine with right as like a child like later on you feel trauma from even my OF days like my own day like I work through therapy now with it like I feel like I have like weird trauma we're like in the moment in the time and I was like an adult I was like in my 30 so very different than Adam who's a child talking to like his his like eye but like you can feel like more as you get older you kind of reflect more and you feel you feel more of like what hit you what happened to you so I'm glad people were like it's okay to feel like this he's like I didn't think it was going to hit me this hard and it's okay to feel like this it's like

just spend money like there is it has to be infuriating and constantly being like referring to him as like this incident that's not true or this instance that when it's like so proven it's so inappropriate everyone knows it so either apologize or just don't talk about it and there's no apology which should be noted on this episode was the title was originally Colleen's actual apology to Colleen telling her side of the story they switched the title which is tells you everything you need to know like because there wasn't and it's like I just I don't know I think like how can you not even if you hired a PR person or you're trying to do a PR cleanup how can you just not say sorry even if you didn't mean it right like you shouldn't mean it when you say it but

even if you didn't mean like it's it takes a special kind of person not be able to like say sorry in a situation where they fully messed up on um because adam one especially like it really obviously you see adam constantly hurt by it how can you not just be like i'm sorry let's take the whole situation of sending him the lingerie and put it aside it's everything that happened after it's you know it's like it's like you're part of a call but suddenly you get thrown out yeah And suddenly, in the group chats, they're, you know, ganging on him and attacking him. That's so much hate. So this is everything that really seems to be the inappropriate behavior was really in the group chats between her and those, everyone in there that was pretty much children.

That she's like, it was just funny. And people were talking about, you know, whether it's like sex life, advice, about her marriage. Her marriage. People like things. Just crossing certain about it because that's exactly what we talked about earlier about like crossing the line from this side. to over there like and and that's where I think a lot of it is not going to acknowledge like that all of that was happening so I think she took the major pieces again this is very PR they took the major pieces they give her opportunity to tell her side of the story on each piece and how to rebuke

because there are people that still like her and they want to follow her she just needs to give them an excuse and a reason to to move on and accept her you know and that too but the thing is what they're what they're missing what they're both missing is like the just the accountability just like you know the like they both said the same thing which was so interesting that it's like both have these like apologies and those like PR resurgence right now is like you know that part of my brain was damaged that part of my brain was missing it's like it's so the same like verbiage and it's that's not that's not an excuse that's not excuse because it's like and it's it's a repeated thing too right like it's like with Colleen not Ned

where it's like this happened a lot and yes it like happened a while ago but it kind of continued when they talked about the Becky who I believe was the girl on stage who was 16 they were like questions that were I don't want to like blame the interviewer so much it's Raven Simone who's like very famous and very like well known she was on the view like I don't think they fully knew so I do think this was maybe like a little strategy and maybe they thought like oh this will get views or someone told them or they're in the same network or something and maybe they knew each other I don't know how it was they don't seem to have like the full knowledge of all this clearly they didn't know i mean they were pampering her they

were of course of course they were there to make her look good sound good but i don't think they knew the extent of everything she's but but the things they talked about was enough you know the things they talked about was enough because for example with becky when she explained what happened she had a sleep she basically said you know the yoga challenge was a challenge that couples did on YouTube. Okay. So yeah. So couples did this challenge on YouTube. Now she's bringing a child on stage into a couple situation where like me and you as a couple would do it. And now there's a child in her acting a couple challenge. Being like what was she wearing? So immediately no, this is not a place to put a child in a couple's challenge because you're not a couple, the age difference and all that.

And on top of that, you are humiliating her on stage, the part of people with that act. So, so, of I'm like, okay, did you hear yourself? Like, how do you take a couple's challenge and do it with a child on stage? But the interviews, too, were just like, you know, like, what was, what was this person? Like, there's, like, really strange questions. Like, just a lot of, it is one thing to give, I can never give, like, Abby Lee Miller a platform. Like, no, there's nothing. If she was like, I want to come on your platform, maybe if she's like, I want to apologize

all the kids, maybe, but even then, no, I don't think so. But it's like, I don't know. just the questions like you said just the way they were setting it up it's like this is like a whole string of like children that's what they was and they weren't referring to as children that like you've hurt and there's like no real apology and it's just consistently bringing it up and denying or saying it was a joke okay oh the fart thing was a joke and then in her ukulele song she was just like she was like she was just like she was like oh I didn't know a trick like there was just so many like contradictions and it's just um I think that's just like what's so frustrating and it is and

it's like especially someone like Adam McIntyre who's like fully out there right like it is like you have every chance like do an apology for him it's clearly it affects him and like keep bringing it up just knowing that there's the truth out there is like it is frustrating. So that's where it starts like if if Becky and Adam and other people came out and said she I talked to her yeah she apologized to me I believe her I forgive her then you start building a foundation to something but it never comes from that way It comes from, again, the PR way of, let me go on a big podcast and answer soft questions and give excuses for the people that will believe it.

And I think what I sense is that her biggest resistance is the word groomer. And because people use that word, that's where she was like, I'm not, and I will never accept it, and I will not apologize. It's like that's just not who I am. And I feel like maybe she just doesn't understand the spectrum of what it means, of like, you're an adult, their children, you are teaching them a certain behavior in this power dynamic and they're doing what they're doing to support you because you're an idol to them. And if today Adam is out, everyone is like, okay, the door is closed on him, everyone attack him.

So she just doesn't understand like grooming doesn't mean that you have one person, that you're basically grooming for your sexual favors. Yeah. It's a whole, there's a whole range of it. so accepting it for what it is yeah and then saying okay you know yeah that was wrong and that was and that was the type of grooming that was okay if you want to specify what it was that's fine but she would just not accept the word and I think that's where she hits a wall and there's no resolution like it doesn't move forward yeah it's it is it does spark anger and it's just frustration it's just so

frustrating and like I get wanting to move forward and like yes but like you have to you have to start with like just acknowledging or just not bringing it up like just keep bringing up stuff and like rehashing because it's like I'm tired of here I'm tired of talking about it I'm sure Adam is I'm sure he's tired of having to be like again with like me being the liar and so like it's just probably so fresh it's like a decade for him and it's just like not fair it's not right she I don't love I hate actually the guys of like, well, I'm a mom, you know, and as a mom now, like, that's like her thing. Like, now as a mom, I can see it differently. It's like, you were a mom when you sent my nudes to one of your fans, you know?

It's like, I'm making fun of me. Like, I don't, that's not that, you know, being a mom can change you, of course, but you were a mom when all this was happening. And I, she was a mom when all was happening in the group chats, too, when she had her first baby. Like, you were a mom. So don't like use that emotional like manipulation to people. You know what I mean? And it's like I do think it changes you.

I do for sure. But like it didn't with you. In fact, freshly postpartum, you're sending these messages like, which I, that to me I can't fathom. Like I cannot fathom that. And it's like, okay, maybe maybe say we're going through a postpartum psychosis or something. Like you had an episode.

Like I don't know what it was, but you were mom. And she had a baby before. So it's just, I don't know, it's frustrating. I think, I think it's like she came back to the internet. Fine. Do what you're just doing. You know, collecting rocks, whatever, being with your family, fine. But don't keep calling people liars, specifically children.

Like, that's crazy. Like, just go on a podcast, try to do your PR safe thing. Try to be like, I'm trying to move forward. I'm trying to move on. But, like, I don't know, to keep bringing up, like, these kids. and just being like, well, they gave you permission to do that. Like, great, insane. They gave her every possible excuse in that interview.

Then they were like, do you feel like it's also issue of time? Like comedy back then was a certain way. And comedians suffer from the idea of like they were telling jokes 10 years ago that now they're held accountable to. Like, they tried in every way to excuse her behavior. And what did she say to it? She was like, yeah. She was like, well, her perspective is basically when I started my audience for adults,

and then they became kids and then I mixed my comedy so some of it will address the kids and some of it will go over their head to the adults and I was like well I don't think it works that way you know you either Colleen claims that the Miranda Singh's character was never for kids but quote for older gays

quote from Oscar girl we were never gagging like that so basically that was not your audience and you know that I've been to like that was not your audience and you know that like your shows were children it is and like i yes okay comedy yes her haters back off show like i watched it i liked it when we try to rewatch it when like i was like when colin i did that podcast for like two episodes like i was like it was like it's like so deeply disturbing like about the uncle and all that was like jokes and you're like oh that is deeply disturbing and like but like netflix proved it people were watching it like yes humor is different but group chats

and talking to minors and you know like yeah manipulating them when adam was at and editing that clip to make it look like Adam wanted the underwear. Like all of that was like malicious and had nothing to do with comedy. That wasn't even online. That was all secret. The stuff about the tampons and stuff about the merit. Like all that stuff was happening in secret. So it's like, yeah, that I just.

And for me it's like it's one thing if, okay, you started doing YouTube videos and you don't know who's watching them. Yeah. So much of her career was live audience shows. Yeah. You see who is one of you. Yeah. You see their age.

You, that's it. at that moment, you shift your, your material to be appropriate to that. And especially, it's one thing if you tell a joke, it's another thing if you bring a child on stage and have them, you know, get food from your pants and eat it, do all the, you know, the yoga challenges, those kind of things. I'm like, yeah, and she's, and she keeps saying like, yeah, I felt that it was odd. I felt something off about it. I wish I did something.

I'm like, no, this is, you are the boss. You wrote it. You performed it a hundred times. like it was yeah it was your it's like one time it's like you weren't hired nobody wrote you a script you didn't act it out like it's this is we just like need to like she just needs to stop it's and it's a combination of things it's like okay the performances the audiences and then talking to them and so it's like so many things happen meeting them in real life meeting at them like going to land like yeah so it's like there there are so many levels and layers to it and that's

why it's an issue. Yeah. That's why people have an issue with it because it's not one thing. And like you were saying in the beginning how you felt about it all, but for me personally because we get to it was personal. Like it was just heartbreaking. More than traumatizing.

It was just heartbreaking. Shocking. Like, you know, it's a person who came to her house and all that. Like, and she's, she is talented and charming and smart. And you're like, yeah. But then suddenly you're like but to wait a minute this is and it was just like so hard and that's why you know

when you look at people like you know jojo or other people that know her from a young age and they just believe everything she says and suddenly you're like oh yeah everyone is lying yeah and jojo and said that yeah everybody's like but why yeah well she said it to us but why would everybody like what's the point why are those kids rebelling why are those kids but that's what was so it's like so scary because like when you're car or when you're about to be caught or found out or everyone's like so like you think you come clean to someone and I gave her so many options to come clean right but what was so scary before the thing about my stuff came out was like oh no they were sending me weird

messages about you they were they were sending me like she was like reversing everything that she did to them and I was like I guess I believed it like who was I don't know these people and then when I saw it I was like that's like it's like malicious it's really sinister like it's really scary and dark and I just was like it was very shocking and like you said it's like you're in the home like you're in the space kids and everything like our kids and I just like it was wild like you know just I don't know the whole thing and it's all it's all deeply upsetting it's very deeply disturbing like there's multiple children that were hurt by this I don't know the comments the common section though doesn't really lie on this a lot of people had very valid

criticisms of it. Not it, girl, not it. And I just, like, I feel, I feel awful. And I think that's why a lot of people just, like, step back from it. Like, I don't know if we hear from, like, the becky of it all. But, like, it's a lot. It's a lot to have to constantly talk about and hear about.

No, because everyone that's been hurt with by it, just the fact that this episode, just seeing that the podcast is going to come out and she's going to tell her side of the story, immediate, you know, it's panic and attack. Yeah. society. It's like, okay, what's going to be said this time? She has a bigger platform than they do. How people are going to react? Am I going to be called a liar again? Are people going to come from me again? Like, people just want to move on. People just want to move on. And it's like, and that's why it's so horrible. And it's like, it's like, how is this not

the actual apology? Like, how is it again? She, because she admits like the ukulele thing was wrong. I'm like, okay, so do the right. Like, where is the right thing? Where's the actual thing, too? I don't know. You know what I mean? And then to have co-signed by their tea time is like, you know, Raven's a very big like celebrity and respectable and reputable and all this stuff like that. I think then to have like someone like kind of be on her side and co-sign, I think

people probably got more frustrated because it's almost like having like, okay, look, this person's giving me a chance. Like everyone else can give me a chance too. And it's like maybe more people would. Because also too when you apologize, like sometimes and like that's all you can do. Right. is about the past, like you can apologize and just move on. They can accept it or not accept it.

That's totally up to them. And like, you don't have to accept an apology. But at least you could say, I did it. At least they could say she did it. What else can we do at this point? You know, but she can't even do that. And I think that's what's like so frustrating after all this reflection, all this time, you know, just, you know, I don't know.

It's very bizarre. But we do have to wrap it up. And I guess I went a little more deeper than I thought I was just going to be like, but it's a lot. Like I said, it's unfortunate for her that I, didn't sleep last night. I got to watch the whole thing. You dealt into it.

I have more notes and I really do. Her side, it's the same thing. She's just saying all the same stuff she said before. But the interview itself, that's what really, really got me. And I was like, this is wrong on so many levels,

the way they were trying to just give her the talking points and try to brush off everything. The prompts. Yeah, it's morning. That was really, really odd and manufactured. And like, complete PR that failed greatly like great failure too so I'm like good luck with that yeah good luck

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