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I used it the other day. I got a fist fight yesterday.
Why? Okay, so you disappeared.
Yeah. Oh, you want to get right into that? Trauma, vulnerability. But with you, I don't know,
I feel comfortable. I feel like this can help people. Like I went through this and it sucked,
but I do believe everything happens for a reason.
It's pretty and pick our topic queen and says what everybody thinks she's just Trish.
It's a little too early.
I like to podcast later when my brain starts working, but, you know, good morning, America.
Welcome to Jess Trish.
I'm so proud of you for being up.
I was 8.15 when I was in my car to get here from Manhattan.
Where are you coming from?
I'm coming from Staten Island from my parents' house.
Oh, my, oh, what are you saying?
with them? Yeah. You're New York. I'm so excited to be here on your, it's the best, huh? Like
island. Well, it's cold now. How are you dealing with the cold? I love it. I love cold because
my face like freezes in it. Like it's good for your skin. I love the cold. The depuffer.
Yeah. I feel puffy today. You look great. You were like, I'm self-conscious. I'm like,
but you actually look amazing. That was me fishing for compliments. Thank you. It works.
No, you look good. How are you feeling? I'm good. I'm excited for this episode. It's always good
to see you. Very highly anticipated episode. I told you I was at
the dog park and i met one of your fans that went to your show and she said you were killing it you
did so great oh my god so just a random person came up to you and was like yeah well dog park
ain't regular people that's all the homies you know they meet up at nine a m every day walking their
dogs this woman she brings treats for my dog specifically because i have a little french bulldog
and she uh she'll bring it's the craziest thing she brings treats for him specifically not even for
her own dog she's like no no everybody stopped these are just for goose oh wow yeah favorite
I met. Goose I met, right? Goose. I love it. So she's just like, oh, I came to, like, Tricia
show. She went to your show and she did the research for me because I haven't gone to your show yet,
but I heard. I'm trying to get you. I've never been to a Broadway show in my life. I've lived
in New York. I grew up here, but I never went to a Broadway show. Maybe I went to the Lion King once,
but I was probably a child. I don't really remember. Oh my God. Yeah, Tana too was her first show last
night. It was her first Broadway show. Yeah. She had never got. It's so crazy. Like you are from New
I know, but it's just not something that me and my friends did, you know?
You don't love a musical.
I'm not a big fan of musicals, but if you're in it, I want to go see it.
I'm going to go tonight.
Are you actually going to come?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
It's two and a half hours of a musical that you're, you come in and like halfway.
I come halfway and that's it.
I'll show up late.
No, you can't show up late.
I saw a TikTok of you like, you were like pulling up and they were like,
Trisha's showing up 20 minutes before a curtain call.
And I was like, that is.
Okay.
Okay, first of all, our call time is 30 minutes before.
If the show's at 7, you have to be there at 6.30.
So you only have to be there half hour early.
So I was like literally right at 630 running into the theater.
And it was only because that block was close.
I'm very like new to New York in general.
I take cars everywhere.
You were walking like a New Yorker.
You speedwalking.
That was diabolous.
You were definitely late.
Were you a little stressed in that moment?
Because it was closed.
Like it's on 47th and 7th.
And so whatever block they dropped me off.
I don't know what it was, 6th Street or something.
It was completely closed because they were like drilling and stuff.
So I had like walk like I had like high tail at two blocks and I'm not a walker.
Like if it says it's going to take five minutes to get somewhere walking, literally,
and I'm not joking, it takes me like 15 minutes to get there.
So I was I was on time.
If the car would have dropped me off right in front,
I would have been like five minutes early.
But I do not like people filming me from the back ever.
He did that at Bryant Park too.
Someone's behind me and Moses.
And it's like him, he's showing me something on his phone and they're just like taking a picture.
Anyway, where is Moses?
He's with the kids.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, so that's, well, who cares if you're late?
You're raising a family.
You're doing two shows a week, podcasts, you're doing TikToks.
Yeah.
You can post on your main channel.
I said you put up a music video.
Yeah, yeah, I've been trying to be busy.
What the hell?
Yeah, so you showed up late to your first.
No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
Is it true that they make the actors do their own makeup?
I read that somewhere.
Do you get special treatment?
No, no, no, no.
They do, but they offer to help too.
There's a makeup and hair person and they will offer, but a lot of people like prefer to do their own.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I do have, they're really, really sweet. And they do help me out with my makeup and stuff like that. But it's not like star treatment. It's like anyone could just get it if they need help with their hair. Yeah. So what's a difference with Broadway and like all the traditional acting stuff you did? Um, I haven't done too many traditional acting. It's just literally euphoria and Broadway. So that's my only acting gigs I've ever done. Um, and obviously euphoria was great. But like Broadway is like live. Like it's every night. And I have like, I do have a small part, but I do think I like make every second count. Well, the dog park says.
that you're immersed in your role, whatever that means.
Yeah, she said that you sang great.
Even my mom was like, she sings and dances and all that.
Like, where did she learn that?
And I was like, I guess she just watches stuff and does it because my mom was curious
if you went to any like professional training.
To be on Broadway, that's like, what do you go to Juilliard or something?
No, no.
No, and I think that's why people were maybe upset at the casting at first because, yeah,
these people do train like their whole lives.
Yeah.
And no, I just, I'm just a fan.
I'm just a fan and like, yeah.
No, I did take lessons prior.
Like, I've been taking acting lessons again.
You're just naturally gifted with this type of stuff.
No, I wouldn't say that either.
I think you just have a lot of passion.
Or you just have that blind confidence where you just don't give a fuck at all.
Both of that and passion and like a little talent.
I'm not going to like totally, but it's not like Broadway.
They're like insane.
But is your mom going to come tonight?
No, she, they left.
They had somebody died in the family.
But they were old.
You know what happens.
So they had to go down in Florida for a.
funeral or something or i don't know what you're going tomorrow for no i'm going for a concert and for
it's not look it's they're closer with the person that passed away he's like i think he's
i'm related to him through marriage but um oh okay yeah okay r-i p uncle bill um real name yeah okay
but bill's a vague name you know who knows if i'm being serious or not but no he we definitely
had a death in the family and they're going down there for that but i had a prior engagement i
I have a job there.
I'm going to give haircuts at a punk rock music festival.
Which one?
What's it called?
They built me a barbershop set inside the festival.
So I'm giving artists and stuff, mohawks.
Do you know who you're doing?
Probably like Young Gravy and a little hoodie.
Are they punk rock?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I read the flyer who's on it.
I'll just message him before.
But I also, it's like a fan experience too.
So I'll get to give like fans and stuff or like people that are at the festival
just want to come in and get a mohawks.
and they got that punching bag thing there where you get the high score you hit it and like
I don't know what that is you hit what you hit a person you hit a punching bag and it goes up to like
a thousand so you see how hard your punches that's the game weird game it's weird for you but it's
right up my alley I love that game I had one in my house one time it was a gift from a person we
both know but I won't bring them up there's a stupid gift I sold it after brought back bad memories
okay good good get that negative energy out yeah well I guess it's good if you have like anger
to get it out of there.
Yeah, it was great.
I love it.
And I love making sure that my punch powers on point, you know,
because you never know when you're going to have to use it.
You're never going to use it.
I use it the other day.
I got a fist fight yesterday.
Why?
Because it was my best friend that I grew up with.
And we went to the gym together, went to a boxing gym,
and he doesn't know how to spar properly.
So we were like just like messing around.
And then next thing you know, he's trying to kill me.
But it's okay because I'm prepared for that.
Actually?
Or you're just like having fun?
No, I'm serious.
Unfortunately, I have a lot of.
mentally ill friends everybody from staten island they just have like a weird thing in their blood maybe it's
because we grew up next to the dump so like the toxic fumes and toxic waste maybe came into our like
our eating supply water supply or something the whole island yeah i think it's like x-men you ever see the
mutants no no idea that they live by like the power plant no idea yeah i think i'm like
wolverine yeah something but like not in a good way like wolverine's powers are good like for mine they
just make me want to like go scam like chase bank or
something you know or like go rob a pharmacy oh my you're not gonna do that no no not anymore because
i left the island but that's what you do if you grew up there we were just there you said last night
i'm there now like mentoring kids and giving haircuts i have a barbershop there on statin island in
my hometown so that's like yeah what do you mean it's been a year why that's like a pop-ups it's a real
deal it's a real barbershop in statin island i shoot the show there too i try to do episodes there
but it's a functioning like running business so it's hard because you know there's like
people actually getting haircuts there.
Oh, I'm so sad.
We literally would have come for, like, Moses.
Because he has, like, long hair now.
He doesn't know what to do it.
I can do it whenever.
I'll be back here in a week after I do the concert.
Okay, so you're there for, like, the weekend or something like that.
Yeah.
I would love to give Moses haircut.
Yeah, because he has, like, good hair, but, like, doesn't know what to do with it.
So you're in Florida.
That's such a good name.
I wish my name was Moses.
You have Jeff.
You know what?
Jeff has a, it is a common name.
There's, like, a bunch of Jeffs in my life.
So every time I'm like, Jeff's coming to the show.
Bezos, which Jeff, Epstein.
A lot of scumbag jiffs.
Well, you're changing it.
I wish, like, Moses is such a clean, like, sacred name, you know?
Biblical, for sure.
Yeah.
Okay, so you disappeared.
Yeah.
Oh, you want to get right into that?
Trauma, vulnerability.
We have an hour because we're doing a pod swap today, so we have an hour.
Yeah, yeah.
So I need to get into it right away.
Well, if you, whatever you want to talk about, but like.
Yeah.
Now, you know, people on the deal over here, I don't want to come in with that victim mentality.
But, hey, you know, when.
when you're a victim of something,
it's nothing you can really do to get away from it.
But I was screwed up bad a couple months ago.
And, you know, luckily I had good friends around me to get a hold of it.
And they kind of caught me just being a real piece of shit.
Like, just self-destructive mentality.
Like, I lost my whole purpose.
And I went away to get help.
I went to, like, a boot camp, ayahuasca.
rehab and it was great i uh i didn't like like the drugs that they give you to get off drugs
it's kind of weird because i was like i don't want to do more drugs i'm like kind of just done with
drugs i want to be back in control i want to like i like you know being myself and the they kind
of just like well it's part of the program so i was like whatever try it and it resets your brain
chemistry so like it made my brain feel like I did before I even used any drugs if you can
kind of understand what I mean by that are they giving is the Iwasca is like methadone or something so the
ayahuasca I'll be honest I didn't feel it I don't know if it's just because my brain was too
powerful at the time you weren't throwing up or anything no I didn't throw up they say you like throw
up and you like yourself and all that because that's like yeah I was like I don't want to do that
I don't like oh you know I'm kind of good on all that but they gave me this
other stuff that you like smoke this frog poison that's like DMT.
And that made me like have like a spiritual breakthrough.
I don't want to get too deep into it.
It's our preaching stuff.
Can I please?
No, this is what I like need to know.
I had a spiritual wickening in 2021.
I need to know.
Yeah.
Yeah, like it changed my entire life.
And not I wasn't smoking frog poison, but like I want to know about how did it come
about for you?
Did it just happen naturally?
Yeah.
I had like, I was in a psychosis and I like literally was just like I like I like, I like,
My whole thing was, like, I, like, reached out.
Like, I literally had to, like, reach out, like, it was weird thing.
I was in psychosis and I was, like, having this breakdown.
And then I really just, like, had to, like, reach up.
And I, like, anything, anything, anything.
And I really just felt like a universal pull.
It's a whole thing, too.
But I need to know about yours.
Yeah.
Like, it became meditation.
It became, like, just I couldn't go on the internet.
So for seven hours a day, I would just sit in silence.
That's good, though, no, that you weren't on the internet?
It probably leads some stress.
Yeah, I was just, that's when I was, like, meditating on TikTok.
talking people were throwing tomatoes at me, but I will say I remember that time.
Yeah, but I would be so serious because like I had to make money and keep going, but I also
needed to be in silence. So I was like live meditating. But anyways, that's how I feel kind of right now.
Like should I be back on the internet so soon? Because I was just in a psychosis episode about two
months ago. Like I was legit like hallucinating like repeating. I was like telling. I would probably
repeat stuff. I'll probably repeat stuff on this podcast still. But that's just because I'm an idiot.
but yeah I was in bad shape and like I was I remember when I first got to this place I was like
try to they give you this stuff called eyeball game let me slow down because it's like so many
things I want to tell you at once so it's like three different things that they give you and I was
like why why do I have to take more drugs to get off drugs why can I just go there and like
because I was already done with it like I was probably I wasn't like withdrawing or detoxing
when I got there but I was still like malnourished I was taking pills to go to sleep for the past
like few years. I was on like benzos and stuff. Antidepressants I was on that just messed up my
brain chemistry. I wasn't myself for the past few years. Like I lost my creativity. I stopped
like editing the videos and really writing and prepping for things. I was just like going through
the motions of life. And I was in a real bad spot. Like with the drugs or not, like I needed some
sort of mental reset or like, I don't know. I just wasn't happy. Like my brain was foggy
every day when I was waking up. And they tell me about this place. And I'm like, well, why if these
drugs are like, like, why aren't they legal?
Why don't the pharmacies are like doctors here use them?
And they told me that this could be a conspiracy, but they told me that like the drugs
that you use there, you won't have to take them again.
So like pharmaceutical companies in the U.S., they don't make money on that.
So why would they, you know, introduce people to that?
Because then you're going to cure everybody and then they won't have to be hooked
on these suboxin and like all other antidepressants that they constantly have to keep
taking it because I would have been dependent on those meds for the rest of my life.
they told me don't ever get off antidepressants you'll die or something you have a seizure so I was
listening to that and when I get down to this place they take you off everything so I was like okay
cool let's try that out you know it's been like since the accident I've been on antidepressants so
I haven't felt what I feel like normally since then and in the beginning when I first got off everything
I started going nuts I was like I started hallucinating I was trying to fist fight the guy that was like
my shaman I attacked him like 10 times
times in the in the rehab I was like and what do they do they restraining you're like he
luckily was a big Mexican dude and like a tough Marine and he's a jihitsu like uh like a high
level jihitsu guy oh so he competes so he was me up not me up but restraining me in a way
like without leaving marks and stuff wow he was able to just do like these I think he was like
throwing me like those wrist throws I was like flipping over oh you were like falling I could be
hallucinating I was on a different planet when I took that iboge and stuff but what were you you were on
some sort of drugs.
Yeah, so they give you this little dose, and he's like, this will make you feel a little
different, like a little weird for like a couple hours.
It lasted three days for me.
Three days of like detox and all my mental demons and stuff.
I needed an exorcist.
I needed an exorcism at the time is what I needed because my head was probably spinning
around when I was trying to attack this guy.
But then finally, after three days, I was able to sleep.
And I think that's why I was going so nuts because I went like six days with no sleep.
And I was really hallucinating.
Yeah, it was bad.
Because you were off the sleeping pills and antidepressants.
So you were on both of those when you went down and take you off.
Yeah.
And so then I couldn't sleep and I was hallucinating from the ibogaine and like just days and days of not sleeping.
I think that's what causes psychosis or like a hallucinogenic state is from like not sleeping.
You ever see that movie of Christian Bale when he's like, he goes like weeks without sleeping.
The machinist, he's all skinny.
Oh, no.
Like his rib cage is popping out.
Yeah, I mean, I've seen like pictures.
That's what I looked like in Mexico.
So I wonder why this guy was fucking me up.
I was so malnourished.
Oh, this is in Mexico.
That's what I'm trying to figure out where you went out because you went to Mexico.
Yeah, in Mexico at this.
It was a beautiful resort.
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But, yeah, you're just fasting and then taking these drugs
and then they, like, put you on an NAD drip.
So you're also getting healthy, and he'll take me to the gym and stuff, like, throughout.
It's not every day.
I'm just tripping and hallucinating, trying to fight everybody because I was there for two weeks.
Well, it was the withdrawal, right?
Yeah.
Just that period.
Or the Ible gain or whatever.
I don't even know.
It's like a blur.
It's another, like, hallucinogenic drug that resets your neurological pathways.
So this is what worked for me.
Yeah.
And I'll tell the story.
I'm not telling people that A.A.
doesn't work that works for you then cool yeah but i had tried going to a and like doing cold turkey
and it didn't work for me and the way this stuff works it's like they actually target the addiction
in your brain and they try to cure it with these meds and i know that's like a big no-no for like
a-a people but you know whatever works i mean it just is all different for people i always said that too
with like my like spiritual i'm like it works for me meditation but i don't want to be like you'll cure
mental illness with meditation yeah it like worked yeah you got to do it works for you i had tried other
stuff it wasn't working for me and I also have like PTSD and that's a lot of the stuff they treat
with the ayahuasca and all these like um plant based medicines which um that's what they call
it I don't know I think everything's plant based medicine cocaine comes from a plant you know
does it heroin comes from poppy seeds you know I guess everything comes from but I'm like I'm like
I'm like contradict my own point here um this is a plane yeah I'm like because I was asking him like
wait so I could do these plant drugs I was like is it cool if I smoke weed down
the line like a year from now if I want to smoke weed and he was like yeah but don't be dependent on
it like these are plant-based drugs I was like well cocaine's a plant-based drug can I do that
that's crazy logic but I love it yeah so you oh so you have like a you're like an alcoholic
you would say yeah but I haven't drank and I never caved on the drinking even when I relapse this last
time I just relapse with like drugs from my doctor yeah and like all the surgeries and stuff
I'll get on pain meds and then I'm like oh well I did pain meds then I walk into a smoke shop and
they sell cratum and I'm like oh what's that it's over the counter it's from a plant what's
cratum it's like heroin it's worse people are dying from it now and they sell in smoke
shops it's ridiculous don't ever take it if you're listening kids oh my gosh don't ever buy
anything in a smoke shop especially in l.A they just let you sell anything that that is wild so
how long were you down because you were off how long were you down in Mexico for two weeks so I did
no podcast for two weeks and I came back and I was like rusty for I might still be rusty but did you
get right back to it when he came back yeah you have to we got ads do people need to hear where i'm at
you know have you talked about this on yours yeah i talked about it but i was with mike and um
mike is a good friend i know like on the internet sometimes he he doesn't seem that genuine
about certain things but he really was a good friend in in this situation and when i came back i was
like why the fuck you're trying to tell my story for me like i couldn't i don't know it's too fresh
i didn't really want to go into it but with you i don't know i feel comfortable i feel like this
can help people. Like I went through this and it sucked, but I do believe everything happens
for a reason. So when I had my spiritual awakening, you know, I was, so you smoke this like frog
poison DMT thing. You inhale it and then you just like fall back. They have a mattress on the
floor for you and you just like fall back and then you're on a different planet. Like you can't
get up and go to the bathroom. That's why they make you fast. So the whole time down there, I was
fasting and doing like this vegetarian diet when I came off of it I lost like 20 pounds when I
was there I gained it back because I'm eating food in Staten Island yeah you look great now yeah
thank you yeah but um that's just because the food here's so damn good and I think I got the eating
disorder from going to these places yeah that part might be scary yeah yeah but uh whatever yeah you're
able to eat again so wait so you fall back so you fall back and and like you lose control of yourself
which is not the type of high I like if if I ever did anything I would like to just get a little
high you know this it takes over like you and you need to surrender yourself to like you got to like
just go with the flow you ever take mushrooms or anything like that and if you fight it it sucks like
that's when you have a bad trip yeah so they tell you like don't fight this shit like go with it yeah
and I did but I was still fighting it even though I'm like telling myself just like just accept it you know
just go with it and like I think while I was doing that like I'm still trying to lie even to
myself in my head.
And I'm like, why are you such a hardheaded, like, lie
or just do, just accept it, you know?
Like, and I don't know if it was like religion
or like, what am I trying to accept here?
Is it God?
Like, I think I believe in God.
I think I'm religious.
I was raised religious, but is this like,
like, what are you trying to tell me?
Do I have to be a priest or something?
Like, I don't wanna come back.
I don't wanna come out of this like a weirdo,
you know, because like some people go and do
Iowa Oscar or something like that
and they come back like, and weird
Do they? I don't know. I feel like the only one I know.
I know. I'm not going to say, yeah, I don't know. There's some weirdos out there.
Maybe I'm one of them now. No, no, you are very, this is the most calm collect I've ever seen you.
But I think of like, Catherine from the most what? You're very like calm and collected.
Oh. When you came in, you're actually like, I thought you said conflict that I've ever saw you.
No, the opposite. And you know me? I usually, I like, yeah, you were like any jabs day.
And I was like, there's something about you where there's like no jabs taken. Like you look great.
you like your like energy is good like I feel like before like I feel like I was combative
because like energies can be a little like tough or like weird or like put on or something like
that yeah energy's like like maybe it made me gayer maybe that's what it is okay well there you
go you had to ruin the moment you had to ruin it I was even thinking like what if I come out of
this gay you know that's okay yeah it's okay and then I'm gonna be the gayest in guy there is
you know that would be a plot twist mm-hmm yep but I didn't come out of a gay
gay. I don't think. Thanks for the update. I don't know if that's possible just to get that clear
on record here before. Well, sometimes when you have an awakening, you could not to say,
but you always had the gayness in you then a little bit at least. Or just realizing your true self.
Like I feel like I realized my truer self when I had a spiritual awakening. So like not knowing
something's there and not to say like again, not sexuality or could be, but you could be open to
more things than you were before. Well, now that I think about it, the first thing I said when I
came out of it to my shaman because he's the only guy there with you and they're playing like
music and they got that you know that thing that they have on the tick talk shop all the time it's
like a tongue but they like hit it and it's the vibrations yeah stuff like that they're like
vibrations and the sounds so all that stuff's going on and then i i wake up i come back and like
10 minutes have gone by but it felt like hours went by and i was like yo what the fuck like i've seen
it like i get it now and he's like just happy that i experienced it he knows exactly what happened
and i was like wait like i didn't know if he was god the shaman or like
something and i was like like a yeah like you was channeling something so what did you get out of it i was
like i like i get it like you know you have like your your breakthrough and all that i was like damn
do i got to be a priest now i asked the guy was like i still want to have sex with women and stuff and he was
like what are you talking about you all you got to do is like stay sober and do the right thing in life
you like yeah yeah what are you saying you have to be a priest and he was like you probably
are saying that because you feel like the need to communicate to your audience and like you
want to pass this along because you've been given a gift of communication your podcast maybe he just
looked me up on Wikipedia and saw that I'm a podcaster and sold me that this shit I mean he probably
no he's a good guy I'm kidding I mean he probably knew I mean he probably look up anybody that comes
yeah I don't think he was trying to like trick you or no I'm just always thinking people are tricking me
or trying to scam me or something that's the Staten Island in me yeah yeah and the trauma yeah
yeah Staten Island trauma or influencer trauma or both yeah so yeah he wasn't trying to get me or
anything like that he actually is a good guy and he's saved like a thousand people so it's amazing and
how do you go about life differently now um well i'm not doing drugs i'm not like you know waking up
and feeling the need to take a pill to be happy that day i don't even have that thought and then
when i get anxiety now i just like i don't really get as bad of anxiety i'll still have issues with
sleep sometimes but i've always had problems sleeping like turning my brain off at night i'm just too
I want to think and write shit and, like, do stuff.
But I, now, like, when I have anxiety, I'm just like, okay, this is a part of life.
And they say, like, give it to God or stuff like that, like give the anxiety away.
Like, it's okay.
Like, everything's going to be right.
And I've been thinking about that more.
Like, I don't have a crutch.
Like, I don't have pills or something.
If I'm anxious or going to an event or something, like, I don't have anything.
So it's just you're going to live your life or you're not.
You're going to, like, have to use chemicals to trick your brain and stuff.
I'm not I don't even have the option of that anymore so I don't have the thought it used to be like oh I take benzos once in a while so like if I go on a plane I need one if you you're uh or whatever I don't know like if I was going skydiving I'd be like taking a quarter of a or like a little piece of a Kalanapin but I'm going skydiving and enjoy that like yeah I'm inducing those like that anxiety and nerves myself you know so I'm just learning that again.
again, learning, re-learning how to get through that stuff.
Yeah, because I would imagine the skydiving is what most people do for a high, just naturally.
Yeah.
And you're doing it with the pills.
I was doing it, yeah.
So not having any crutches anymore is nice.
Having to just deal with life.
Like if I was locked up in a jail cell, you're not going to be having an anxiety attack, you know?
You're just going to have to deal with that.
That's a good analogy.
It's like, yeah.
You're not going to die from anxiety.
Right.
You know?
Right.
That's very true.
Have you ever tried like ashriganda is that what you going to say no it's like a natural
anxiety med or something I would say and again it works like for me but maybe not for everyone
like and it sounds so stupid like when you do have anxiety but like have you ever tried just like
clearing your mind yeah yeah do any techniques to just be like you know like visualize yourself
on a beach or clouds or like see birds flying and seeing your worries fly on like the back of a bird
away. Yeah, I kind of do that with running. No, that sounds crazy. But like when you run a lot,
you could kind of just zone out to where it's like not that difficult. And you're just like,
that's why I like to run places that don't have like street lights and like a curb or something.
Like you got to trip over. I don't know. I would like see a curb. But like I like to run on a
smooth like long surface for like 10 miles or something. But you wanted to trip over. No, no. I want to
run like and not have to think and just be like that's my meditation where I could just like be
anywhere. You know? It's called like runners higher.
or something like that.
Yes, yeah.
Walks are like that for me.
Okay, so that is something you do.
So I guess at night you just have to find like an...
But for me, if I have curbs there and shit,
I'm like, damn, I'm going to trip on that.
I'm getting anxiety over.
Oh, no.
Or no, I'll be like thinking about it and stuff.
What about just going on like a treadmill so you don't have to worry about curves?
I like, treadmills will get like boring after a while.
I'll run on them.
I don't hate them, but, you know.
You can just like watch a show because you watch TV and stuff.
I've been wearing my metal glasses and like running outside and like with people while I'm running.
Those are meta glasses.
They're rebands.
They are ray bands
They have a little camera in them
See, so like
Are you filming?
Can you film?
How do you film?
If you film it, the light goes on.
You would never know.
Do you know is the light on?
Yeah.
So yeah, now I'm filming.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
What's the craziest drugs you ever tried?
Oh.
Nothing crazy.
See, that's like what I'll do to people.
I'll mess with them.
Oh, I see.
But you didn't give me anything good.
I got to smash that light out so people don't know.
What is crazy drugs even mean?
People have asked me that and I'm like,
I don't know.
What is like a crazy drug?
I guess some.
I just talked about for the first half of the episode, yeah.
I don't know about, yeah, all that stuff.
Would you ever go do ayahuasca or something?
It's completely just change your brain.
You're kind of in the best place you've been.
I don't think you need to.
Yeah, I think now, but probably, yeah, probably like my low points had I knew.
Way back about it.
Yeah.
Even though way back, 21, probably I would have done it.
I was like desperate.
Like I went into psychosis and I like could not get myself out of it.
And I literally was hitting my head against a wall.
And like literally just like I could not stop hitting my head against a wall.
And like, I really think that altered my brain.
Oh, yeah?
You think that fixed it?
Yeah.
Like, I don't recommend it because I was deeply unwell.
So many people right now have bashed their head against the wall.
No, I couldn't stop it.
Kind of like what you were saying.
Okay, you were fighting the job.
I'm like, I couldn't stop it.
And that's when I was like reaching up.
I remember reaching, reaching, reaching, reaching.
And I just like instead of like feeling angry because I was always angry and everything
came from anger, I started feeling like the light.
Like I was pulling down like the light in the world.
And like it like, I don't know.
And then the next day I just literally.
like I need to be all social media and I like I did I do talk to a therapist and
stuff but it was also like meditation yeah the therapist I went to was kind of like not
Buddhist but it was um gosh my harry Krishna do you know high Krishna like it's like it sounds
like it was in a beetle song or something did they ever talk about that yeah I think it was a
beetle song Moses told me that anyways yeah they do like mantras and stuff like that it's a little
bit of hindu it's like anyways there was a therapist who was like Hinduism like base and
told me about harry Krishna and all these mantras and like the meditation of it also that's
So I was just like meditating for like eight hours a day too.
And like really help.
And meditation, you really can't have any thought in your mind.
Yeah.
And if you can, then you do a mantra.
That's why you say like, Hari Krishna, Hari, Krishna, Krishna, Kishish, Khrusha, Harry,
so you just like repeat it.
So you like have that to focus on rather than like your thoughts.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But if you could, if you right now at the height, you're in your prime, all the success, Broadway,
all your dreams are coming true.
Euphoria.
If you go back to that girl that was blasting her head into a brick wall, saying, why is my brain
all screwed up?
What would you tell her to be like, oh, that's a good question.
So everything's going to be okay?
Don't worry.
Yeah.
Stop hitting your head off.
Because honestly, no, like it really did give me like, I mean, I remember I really talk
about this to an extent, but I mean, I did.
I was in like a not a good state.
I was like kind of like a little bit of a medical for a minute.
But, um, yeah, I would be like, don't hit your head again as well.
But also like, honestly.
But why?
What if the other Trisha back then that's blasting her head off?
She goes, shut up.
You don't know what I'm dealing with or something.
And you keep hitting your head.
No, I guess you're right in that capacity.
Like I had to go through that to get to where I'm at now.
So like, yeah, I guess you're right.
Like there's nothing you can say to someone like that.
I would tell her before the psychosis because I got a mental break where I could not get offline.
I was like crying into my phone and screaming and like posting it on Twitter.
I would literally be like put the social media down for sure because like reading the comments, posting all of that was like not good.
I thought like that was like my outlet, but it was not good for me.
But you're doing really well.
Like you're like, oh, should I be on social media?
But it's like you're, I've never seen you like.
like better like it's really interesting that's great well i now it's like worn off i kind of feel the
same again but just like talking to you now like thinking about that like what would you tell your
old self you're really just going to say like stop doing that like everything's going to be okay
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Like look at me in five years from now, six years from now.
And that's really what the same shit I learned was like just give that anxiety away to
higher power because everything's planned out.
Everything's going to be all right.
and you know just stop stressing so much stop blasting your head off the wall stop comparing yourself
to others in social media like you look at the like reels or you're like oh i got to be this i got to be
that i got to stop eating i got you know yeah it gives a everything's everything's planned out you know
just go with the flow yeah and be all right and also maybe just get help it seemed like because
you went and got help somewhere i went and got help somewhere yeah i got help but the help only
work because i wanted to get better yeah it doesn't work if you're like uh i i still love drugs
you know like I can't really give them up let me just go to this place and see if it works you got to be like I'm ready to you know change my life I think it to be at like some rock bottoms yeah it can happen like a bunch of times and I feel like that I just feel like I keep hitting rock bottom like come on how many more like life lessons do I need but I guess I needed another one you know yeah like every time I end up in jail or something I'm like God why do you keep putting me back here man but look how long ago that was when's last time you were in jail um like a year ago um like a year ago
but that was just for weed in the airport in Europe.
Oh, okay.
And I was like taking pictures with people in there, like the cop and stuff that did my mugshot.
I took a picture with him after.
You know?
You recognize me.
That was funny.
It's weird that I'm at the age now that like cops will be watching my stuff, you know.
So why don't you just be like, can you let me go?
It's just weed?
They let me out after like eight hours or something.
Oh, okay.
So that's good.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a year of not being.
I think it's all for a good reason, you know?
Sometimes I need to get thrown in a case.
to really sit and think that's my meditation you know yeah some people need that for sure i mean
slap the cuff somebody throw me in jail for a little bit and i'll come out reset that's very much like
isn't that the whole prison reform it like movement is like they can change it better in there
anything like that's a reset for me i kind of needed that but like i wasn't getting arrested like
nobody was throwing me in jail like i was you're not going to get thrown in jail for
taking antidepressants in your room you know i needed to like get arrested for something isn't that
crazy yeah that is wild that like so like going to the bootcanting in mexico
it worked for me, you know, because I wanted to get help. I needed to. I realized that. And, you know,
those drugs were just like the cherry on top because that really, like, did change my brain.
I came out of it. I was like, holy shit. What the fuck was I doing? Yeah. And you don't carry any of that
with you because it's wearing off, but like it doesn't seem like it is. What part's wearing off for you?
Like when I, I don't know, I was like kind of waking up, like just refreshed every day.
like, I was like, damn, I got my life back.
Now I'm kind of just like, oh, fuck, I got to go into a podcast.
It's 8 a.m. right now.
First of all, you're like, I'm happy to do it.
Okay.
No, I am.
I'm kidding.
I love it.
I was just joking about that part of it.
Thanks.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
That part of it.
My disciplines come back.
I'm back to, like, you know, my old self.
I know it's corny, but, like, even doing, like, a cold shower, I would, like, turn the shower
on cold every day.
I don't, like, I don't cold plunge as much, but, like, I'll do the cold shower.
just like wake me up and do something hard and i like i stopped doing that for a while it's just like
a little weak i don't know i i feel like i got my discipline back i feel like i can do hard
you get to be comfortable and uncomfortable even being here i hated the cold growing up
new york like when you get outside not today but like two days ago when it was like 30 degrees out
and it was super windy yeah and it hurts your face the second you go outside i just reminded me like
when I was a kid going to school, my dad, like my dad would be driving me to school and the car
would be freezing. And they didn't like, the car wouldn't get warm until like I got out.
Like I was like at school. Then I was like, you never preheated it. I grew up in Illinois and
we'd go out and like start the car like 20 hours early. We didn't have that. Oh, okay. And my dad wouldn't
be wasting gas. Oh, that's true. That's true. Hell no. It was cold, but I love I loved the cold
yesterday or two days ago. Yeah. Yeah. What were you doing that? Oh, you, I saw you got that,
that grilled cheese, the gay grilled cheese.
Crazy.
Rainbow grilled cheese.
The gay flag.
The what is the flag called?
Pride.
Pride flag.
Yeah.
Pride grilled cheese.
That's what it was.
Is that offensive how I said it?
No, I don't think so.
I don't know.
If it is, correct me.
I want to change.
I want to learn.
I don't think that part was offensive.
I think you got the gay grilled cheese.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with a rainbow game.
How was it?
Did it taste gay?
It was frozen.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah?
I thought it was melted cheese.
No, they like made it hot, but it was.
It was so cold.
I did the pole part and it was just like stuck straight up the cheese and I tried to taste
a bit of a little.
That's crazy though.
Cheese could be all of them colors, huh?
I don't know how they did that.
That's probably not good for you like the Red Fort Worth.
Yeah.
Have you been to Brian Park?
No.
So you're like New Yorker but like don't do touristy things ever.
Well it's like anybody that lives somewhere or is from somewhere.
Like I don't do touristy things in LA.
I do like Venice or Hollywood Boulevard.
You've never done that?
I would never go like take pictures with the stars and stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, I used to.
I haven't done it in a while, but I do love it.
That's funny.
I love, like, the Venet's, like, gym.
Like, I love to just go look at, like, everyone working out.
Like, I mean, again, I haven't done it in a while, but I like to do it.
Yeah.
That'd be so funny to just be walking down Hollywood.
Like, I'm in a rush to go to, like, Starbucks or something, a Starbucks.
Yeah, you were getting Starbucks here, which is kind of diabolical because it's, like, New York.
Like, you have so many good coffee shops.
They have Pratt.
They have Vanilla Gorilla.
They have Joe's coffee.
They have, like, all these, like, amazing things.
And you're like, I'm like, what?
Yeah, I guess with coffee
I don't really give a shit
But with food I'm realizing that like
Damn, I was spoiled growing up
Like I grew up with the best food
What, okay, so tell me
Like what is the best food
Because I've been eating it
I've been eating so much
Like honestly my Beatles's costume
It's like not gonna fit anymore
I need to like chill
But I've been walking everywhere too
So I feel like I do walk
Like I walk about like 15 blocks
You should check your steps
Wear Apple Watch or something
Are you gone
I should I have my phone usually with me
Or a whoop
Or a whoop
There's that like I don't know
I'm not giving no
promotions for me i'm a gorman boy what that's you're Mormon no never forget i
okay okay okay so that's great though yeah no tell me food because i am obsessed with food and i
love well just pizzerias obviously that's a no brainer new york you know um like what's in
statin island like my uh editor one of my one of my guys who's with me nick he uh he's going to
pizzerias and stuff and he was like oh i'm gonna go i'm gonna go to that pizzeria i'm like
which one he's like darn they all the same i was like don't they all the same i was like don't
You don't you ever fucking say that again.
They're kind of the same.
All pizzeries are the same?
Kind of.
What do you say in New York pizzerias?
They all have the ricotta cheese on it and yeah.
First of all, it's parmesan cheese.
Is it?
No, the big white chunks.
That's parmesan cheese.
It's because it's fake parmesan cheese.
You're eating fake parmesan cheese.
In Los Angeles, those green containers, those circular containers are green ones.
That's fake parmesan cheese.
There's only, the only real parmesan cheese is stamped.
It comes from Italy and a wheel.
And I'm sure when you go to a nice restaurant.
They have the Parmesan the real deal.
Oh, I love also in the pasta and the wheel of cheese.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's the real stuff.
I think it's like strachitella or something.
It's like a specific white.
No, I watch a YouTube video on it.
So I know.
On what?
On fake cheese that they,
but you don't know the pizza.
There's counterfeiters that are making millions of dollars of fake cheese and like fake stuff
that they sell.
I got one in like a deep dive on like artificial foods that we eat like our imitation crab and
stuff like that.
Oh, yeah.
That's disgusting.
Yeah, not into that.
I used to be, but.
Yeah, but then I found out about the Parmesan cheese and I was like, damn.
But are you eating like pizza every day or does your mom go?
I've been getting chicken rolls.
It's like a chicken cutlet, like a chicken parm basically stuffed into like a calzone type of thing.
Like it's so weird that people don't know what chicken rolls are because I like grew up on them.
I like my body as I was growing from a small child into a man.
I'm built off of chicken rolls.
Where do I get them?
Staten Island, you want to go do a muckbang?
How far is Staten Island from here?
I wouldn't be so tempted.
It's 30 minutes, 30 minutes away, a little worse for traffic, but...
Did you get on a boat?
No, you could take a car.
There's a bridge, but if you want to take the ferry, yeah.
Ferry's like an experience, you know?
You fall asleep next to a homeless guy or something.
I think they sell beer on it.
Yeah, I saw your videographer, came to Vegas.
Oh, he shot you guys.
Yeah, yeah, Kyle.
I like him.
Where happened to him?
He's in L.A.
He's meeting us in Orlando.
Ando tomorrow for the shoot.
Oh, okay, so you should work with him.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
I was away at that time.
That's when I was in Mexico.
Oh, well, that's good.
He probably needed to do some work somewhere.
Well, he's on salary.
So he would have been good either way.
Okay, booge.
You salary people?
Yeah, I got health insurance for my boys too.
What?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm fucking around.
Are you doing here?
Are you doing here?
Blog squad.
You have HR?
No, I don't have HR, but that's because I don't do anything.
I never assault to my guys or anything like that.
I'm not into shit like that.
Yeah, that's good.
I got to heck at it.
with any, oh, you do have girls.
You said you have a lesbian manager?
Yeah, of course.
My whole team is gays and lesbians.
Love it.
Yeah, a couple straighties, but I don't really, you know, I don't like them too much.
Yeah.
No, I'm kidding.
No, the favorites are the lesbian, the queen of the lesbians, Nev.
She's the best.
And my assistant's a gay little Mexican man.
Okay.
We love.
Do you want me to keep going down the line?
No, no, we're good.
Love it.
I love your love.
Uh, righteous gemstones.
Oh, yeah, righteous gemstones.
That's a good one.
Oh, wait, hold on.
You, um, I heard you fell off a chair in your debut at Beetlegy.
I didn't fall of a chair.
I broke a chair.
Did it fall?
Did you fall?
It crushed, like the legs collapsed.
Oh, so it disintegrated, it just spontaneously combusted.
Oh, it was bad.
It was bad.
I've broken so many chairs in my day and I've told these stories and people like, don't believe
me, but I, like, it's why I sit in boots.
I will never sit in chairs because, like, I break chairs quite frequently.
And it's wild to me.
And I've done it on TikTok Live.
I've done it everywhere, but I did it on Broadway on my opening night.
Yes.
I pushed back.
Did you see that new show on HBO, The Chair Company with Tim Robinson?
No.
It's so ridiculous.
It's so funny.
It's all about him falling through a chair on stage when he's like, he's a mall manager,
but they like make everything so dramatic.
It's like basically like he's like breaking bad.
It's like breaking bad.
the way they score it and stuff.
It's like so intense, but he's really just a manager in a mall that fell off a chair
and he's like trying to track down the chair company because he thinks that somebody sabotaged
him to fall through the chair in such a big moment in his life.
That's kind of like you because you fell through the chair in the debut on Broadway.
That's been my story.
I think they ripped it off from me because like I've literally like looked up like, I remember
one time the first time it happened was at a cheesecake factory and I looked up like how to sue cheesecake
factory like how to sue cheese cheese.
He's like, no, it's like calling customer service to the chair company.
And nobody's answering.
And he's like,
who the fuck are these people from this chair company?
And then they start messing with him back.
Like they send like mafia guys to like like do like to start following him.
And it just gets more and more intense.
I feel like someone needs to find my story time on this.
Yeah.
That's crazy that that happened.
And it's just such a ridiculous show.
There's like one.
They'll write things into the into the show that's like so ridiculous.
Like you tell the guy Tim,
you know Tim Robinson, right?
You know the actor that.
What's he from?
Detroiters and I think you should leave on Netflix.
Isn't he like a serious actor?
I'm thinking it's kind of different.
No, he's the farthest thing from, no, no, he's the furthest thing from a serious actor.
There's a scene in the show where he gets a phone call and it's this modeling agency
and they call him, tell him that he didn't get the job.
And he's like, I didn't submit any pictures.
And they're like, yeah, well, we got your pictures and we just wanted to give you a courtesy
call, let you know that you don't have what it takes.
And we're just sorry to let you know that he's like, I don't want to the
be a model and he like hangs up the phone not even necessary for the show is he stand up or what
like no he's just like a like a traditional like tv comedian i'm not gonna totally hate on it
because i feel like when he told me about the danny mcbride of it all i was like i totally disassociated
and didn't even remember you saying it and then i remember i became obsessed with danny mcbride
and oscar's like jeff talked about that i was like um literally no recollection of that ever happening
so i do trust your opinion what show what channel is this on the chair HBO it's a new show in
HBO and there's a new show i love l-a have you seen that one
That's like a Tenna and Trisha show, I feel like.
Is it?
Have you seen it?
I haven't watched it.
Yeah.
I mean, they speak in your language, you know?
It's my people.
They say the words and terminology that you use.
Like what, give me some.
Lore.
Lore is, that's a good one.
Like, they're like blocking people on Instagram and stuff.
I feel like that's what you and Tanna do in your free time.
Yeah, we love a block button.
Good for your mental health.
She's like a manager of like a social media girl.
And then they, she didn't get.
the managerial position because the girl her client didn't follow her on
Instagram and the people saw it they were like she doesn't follow you that's weird
all right next and that's like why she got five I don't know there's like I kind of love it but it's
very niche like I do love that but like I wonder if it's like mainstream maybe her friends uh this
she has a gay best friend Jordan Firstman I love him oh so you know exactly who the actors are you
just haven't you haven't watch the show yeah no I love him though he's on everything he's on like
English teacher and he's he's been on so many things I want to say overcompensating maybe I don't
know he's been on a lot yeah it's the show starts with a guy on guy sex scene right up my alley
I was like this is you my show right here but you do okay so when I started watching we start
started with righteous gemstones went to device principles and then back to eastbound and down
and it's always penises just so many meal yeah HBO love show and
but something of the shows you're talking about Game of Thrones always had penises in it not as gratuitous
as a righteous gemstones like they would show penis for no reason every episode yeah and I was
like yeah became I was uncomfortable watching it sometimes but yeah but you love it what about it
you do I don't love that specific aspect of it but all the shows you've mentioned have so much
of it so much penis and you're like and you're okay with because to me I like blush I don't love it
I get a penis like but you seem to like watch all these shows it's funny you know the penis is why explain
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It's not like an erect penis, but like a flaccid penis is funny.
I don't know.
It's not in use.
It's useless, you know?
It doesn't do nothing.
Just, I mean, basically men could be pee and sitting down, you know.
You don't even really need a penis if it's not, you know, what are we talking about?
I'm uncomfortable now.
No, I need to know because, okay.
I feel like I'm watching HBO penises with my parents that you ever like have a sex scene come on.
You're watching TV with your parents.
No.
How awkward that gets.
Never.
Did you ever watch TV with your parents?
America's that talent, maybe.
Well, there's not going to be no penises in that.
No, but I was telling Moses, I was like when I was a kid, these boys,
would always do the freaking helicopter penis thing to me.
That's funny.
Why?
And it happened on Righteous Jempson.
The helicopter.
I'm like, do you see what I'm talking about?
Because he did not believe he had no idea what I was talking about.
Why is that funny?
I don't know.
Now I'm uncomfortable.
Wow.
Okay.
I will say if you get past the five episodes of Righteous Jempsons, the first five episodes
is like, it's my favorite show I've ever watched in my entire life.
I think it's so funny.
I thought Vice Principles was like extremely funny.
And then I really loved these bonding down too.
I was kind of like, wait, these shows are.
I really like him.
Have you ever met him?
Danny McBride?
Yeah.
No.
He's in like, where would I need him?
Yeah, he doesn't really like hang out at the same spots I go to, you know.
But you should be in one of his.
I feel like you act because you do movies too.
And I feel you should be one of his shows.
I just started acting again.
I'm doing some stuff in the next couple months.
Is your ayahuasca?
Yeah, kind of.
It's just you got to keep up with acting.
You got to like have people getting you stuff, you know.
Like you can't just wait for people to come knock on your door and say,
hey, we want you to be on this show.
Don't work like that.
Yeah, that's true.
Do you have someone, an agent manager?
Um, you have them and then you like start prioritizing other stuff and then you don't, you don't always, you know, keep up. Like you got to be really committed to acting. It's a whole different thing. It's not just because you're making videos, you're going to get acting jobs. But I play stuff that's like easy for me to fit into that, that role, that character. I'm playing a boxer in one movie. I'm playing a tough guy. That's my, I don't have a name. My character doesn't have a name. Just tough guy. Is the boxer movie out? No, one of the main actors got sick. So we had to, we had.
to postpone I think it was Danny Trejo or something got sick that is so weird as I was looking at
you I was like you're very Danny Trejo yeah because it's like he went to prison he has like your face
looks amazing I don't want you feel self-conscious about it but you do look like you've been through some
stuff you know what I mean and I feel like that's so good for acting but still like good
you're still it's like very Robert De Niro where it's like he looks like he talking to me huh
oh that's pretty good yeah he's always got this face De Niro
pissed off I kind of like it is that good maybe maybe yeah yeah
More squinty?
Yeah, that's great.
All right.
So back to the penises.
Back to the penises.
Why are they funny?
Wait, how do we get back there that we're moving?
Because you're on to something, I think.
Okay.
Well, a woman's body is not funny, right?
Am I, is that the right thing to say?
Maybe like, I'm trying to think maybe like Borat.
They had like female nudity try to be like, I think they made fun of like a larger
woman's body.
I don't think so.
I'm just like saying no, but yeah, I would love to know why.
I guess if a girl's fat like it's kind of funny to people I don't know it's not me not to me
no what do you think about everybody on ozempic now what are your thoughts on that
i don't have many thoughts on it yeah but would you ever take it honestly like not
i don't want to ever say never i think it's cool that you're just like just happy just yeah
well especially i'm getting in my acting era now and i really feel like there's just no one's fat anymore
so i'll just take all the roles yeah that's what i was saying on the last
On my last podcast, I was like, you know, it used to be, it used to be looked at as like a sign of wealth if you were a little, you know, you had a little belly on you, you know, you know. Because nobody could afford food back in the day. So, you know, yeah, you were rich, you know. Yeah. You took like OZemp. Like what you went to is kind of like OZMPIC for drugs because it's like you don't think about doing drugs anymore. Because I think what OZMPIC does is like doesn't make you want to eat anymore. And it's like you kind of want on like. Yeah. It makes you like feel kind of nauseous. Like when you're sick, you lose weight. I guess you're just constantly on that, which I
wouldn't want to feel like that but if there's like a magical drug you take that just makes you
skinny i get why it's so popular yeah no i totally get it megan trainer was just talking today i saw
her because now people are like body shaming people for getting too skinny and when i was big
everyone's like oh my god you're like so fat now they're like skinny everyone's like you look so
crazy like now people are but now if every if anybody could be skinny then what's going to be the
rare thing you know nothing yeah chubby yeah exactly exactly so that's why yeah i'm going to
start eating as much as I can.
Yeah.
You want to be chubby?
I want to pack on some more weight.
Yeah,
I gained like 20 pounds in the past months.
This is your best look.
This is truly,
and I'm not just saying that to be nice.
This is truly your best look.
You look amazing.
I'm like so excited for you.
I do love the acting area too.
I feel like there might be a day
where I retire from social media and just act.
Hell yeah.
I was thinking about that too when I was like going through everything because I was
like, damn, I'm about to go back into podcasting and do everything again.
But I haven't done it in a while.
So should I just get a whole new career?
But no.
I do love doing this stuff, but it would be cool just showing up and having a script,
but also you're kind of doing it now with Broadway, right?
Yeah, and that's why I love it so much where it feels weird.
Like, we're doing Hot Topics tomorrow and it feels weird to just go back and be like,
Colleen, like, Colleen's on a podcast today.
I'm like, I don't want to watch it because like everything is just like good,
but like that is the job, right, is to be like reporting on what she's saying on a podcast.
I'm like, I don't care.
I just don't care anymore, but like.
And guests, sometimes you've got to have like a new guest.
I don't care to do certain.
I love all the guests because I've been more picky
So I feel like I've been loving all the guests and I would do more
It's just hard to get guests
Oh I saw you had Nicole on
Yes Nicole the chronically along girl
Did she go yet?
She did
Oh damn all the girls went already
No I want to go solo so I could not be distracted and really
You're gonna go by yourself?
Taking every moment
I'm gonna go yeah we'll go tonight
Me and my guy but that's by myself then
Yeah he's just there to make Instagram stories of me and stuff
I'm very excited I'm very excited no Nicole's great
Yeah she was my first guest co-host
And she didn't like people in New York
And I do love New York.
I do love it.
Flaky.
I've had like, they know the podcast studio here.
Like I was waiting for like an hour for a guest.
And they're like, actually he's not coming.
And I was like, okay.
Who is it?
Who did that?
Bleep the name.
Oh.
Also.
More penises of he who shall not be named.
Because I was like, remember when you were in that group and someone was made to show
their penis and you're like, he didn't like that.
And I was like, I didn't know.
I thought he was in on the bed.
I thought he was like loving it all.
Yeah.
No, I don't think he wanted to.
he's not to humiliation yeah i had a guy that i would he would always show his penis i had nothing
to do with it he just loved taking it out and showing people that's assault i think yeah but if
you like say that you're going to show it first and they're like oh yeah show me no because in that
that situation we were in that's not consent show me your penis no they literally be like he's going
to show you and i'm like i don't want to see it look not to say i yeah like anyways that's all
well it's a whole thing but anyways yeah back to i think god's happy broadway nicole that's
You also are your New York friends, influencers.
I need guests.
And I'm like, everyone keeps flaking.
And I'm like, all right, who can?
New York guests.
It's better than looking for guests in L.A.
I don't know.
I feel like everyone in L.A.
is just waking up late.
And there's bullshit social media people out there.
Like, that's where the influencers go now.
Well.
They all got no direction in life.
They're just like following.
What do we do next?
Oh, everybody's starting a podcast.
Now let's start a podcast.
Yeah.
I think like we're the same in that sense where it's like, that's why I like doing
Broadway, just trying to do other things like acting because it's like, I do.
I do love the influence world.
I love that everyone can be like rich and famous off influencing.
I just love so much like actually acting and like doing what I wanted to do when I was
younger.
This was always just like my plan B.
I like love it.
Like having some sort of craft or something that makes you different than everybody
else.
Like for me, it's cutting hair.
Like, you know, I know it's like a weird trade to, to, to know.
I know, but I'm so grateful that I learned that and I did that for a big chunk of my life
because that makes me have something different than everybody else.
You know, like I have the barbershop show, but I also have the hair products and I still
cut hair.
Like I have the barbershop.
I'll go in there and like randomly cut a walk in or something just to keep that, like still
have that fresh, you know?
We want to come in.
I want to come in.
I want to see it.
That would be so fun to do if you have time next week or something like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just, I walked into a deli in my hometown.
I met this kid who was like, he was like 18 year old me.
He's like, yo, you're Jeff, right?
Like, I'm in barber school right now.
And he's going to work at the shop that I worked at.
Wow.
And it was just like, holy shit, bro.
I was like, this is crazy.
He's like, yeah, I was going to be an electrician, but I saw you shit and now I'm going
to barbers school.
Wow.
That's dope.
Maybe you can still do the electrician stuff, but at least learn it, have a trade,
have something that, you know, nobody can take from you.
You know, you can always fall back on that if you don't want to do other stuff.
Like, you'll never be homeless.
You know, you can always cut hair.
I think that's what's cool about.
you too is the fact that you have like this actual like stand like I didn't know I thought it was pop up like
this like shop that's there all the time so like you'll never be out of work when it comes like
social media or acting your personality but like you could always do that yeah I could always go
back and cut hair I'm not going to charge 20 bucks anymore or $12 what is you're going
when I was a kid what's your going right I don't know I don't even want to say how much you
charge Broadway I don't know not much I don't everyone think is being paid so much money
it's not much but I would pay to be on Broadway so that's like they should be giving you
50% of those ticket sales.
No, I'm happy to be there.
You definitely boosted sales though, right?
By bringing in your massive following.
No, I think Beatles just has its own fandom.
Broadway's a sink and shit.
No, actually, let me take that back.
No, it's a hard time for Broadway for sure.
I think, like, in general, like, you know,
there's huge stars opening shows and closing like the same week.
COVID probably messed it up too, right?
I think it's a lot.
I don't really know.
I think it's just bad decisions.
And so I wanted to come back and I'm praying like it's going to make a revival.
Is the Lion King still going?
I think so.
So do you want to see it?
I think I already saw it, but I could go for a refresher.
I don't know if you did or not.
I don't remember.
Probably brain damage.
Maybe I dream that I went to a Broadway show.
I think I did.
I think I did go see The Lion King.
That's the only show that I've ever seen.
Are you going to sit through it tonight?
I went to my sister's place.
She was like fiddle around the roof when I was like a little kid.
Do you remember songs from it?
I was obsessed.
I made my parents get me a violin for Christmas.
Which song?
Which one are you doing?
I think the main one.
If I were a rich man.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was hooked on that when I was like five.
So are you going to sit through the whole show tonight?
Two and a half hours.
You're not going to leave after an admission.
I might pop in 20 minutes late like you did.
No, you can't pop in late.
You have to come on time.
Are you getting us tickets or do you go to buy them?
No, I'll get you tickets.
I was going to buy him last night.
But I'll get you tickets.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm going under your name, but like show up.
Yeah, of course.
We're going 100%.
I can't wait.
And stay to the end because I met the end of Act 1.
It is a small part, I will say, but there are no small balls.
I'm not, it's not a small part.
I'm on stage for a small amount of time.
But it's a good part.
And I do the ball.
And you sing.
You sing.
I do have a singing line, yes.
And you play, you're not Beetlejuice.
You play a wife of this.
It's a different story, right?
It's not like the movie.
No, it is like the movie.
My character is in the movie, but doesn't have any speaking lines.
It's the dinner scene.
I haven't seen the movie either.
So should I watch the movie before I go?
No.
I wouldn't say that.
I actually love the musical more than the movie.
So I would say come into the musical.
Tanna didn't know the Beatleju's character either.
She never saw the movie.
So she was like, so it is, I think it's fun to see like this whole new like character.
Damn.
It was, I'm excited.
I love that influences are coming.
Like it makes me so influencers you and Tanna are the only ones.
But even last night, Tana, like there was so many people that came up to her and she was so sweet.
She was just like taking pictures of everybody.
Yeah.
And my stage manager was like, there's someone out there.
I think your friend is just like the show can't start because there's just too many people surrounding her.
Oh, yeah.
She was really, really nice and really, it was really fun.
So it's cool to have you guys there.
People would be excited.
Did Makoa go too?
Yeah, Makoa.
Everybody.
I'm going to ask him his thoughts.
He was really sweet.
He said it was really nice.
I love McCauau.
He's so sweet.
Yeah, yeah, he's great.
Yeah, but I'm excited for you to come see it tonight.
Yeah, me too.
I'm excited because Nicole is the one who told me I need to go to a Broadway show.
She's like, you need to be living in New York going on Broadway shows, coffee shops and stuff like that.
Can I tell you I kind of want to live here, like part time?
Well, yeah, you should.
I love, I love Brooklyn.
Yeah.
Clinton Hill.
Yeah, I'm probably going to get a place in Brooklyn.
Just because I'm like trying to decide, I don't want to live on the island.
It's too depressing for me.
It's like going back.
Too far back.
Yeah.
No, it's not the dump anymore.
I actually really have grown to like my hometown where I come from a lot more from this trip.
I used to hate it.
I used to be embarrassed.
I used to like try to change my accent and stuff like that.
Like when I first came out to L.A., I was like, I sound like an idiot, like the way I talk.
But now you're like being into it, right?
I'm like lazy.
Yeah.
Because you have a thick one now.
Did it change?
change back?
Yeah, you're very anywhere.
It'll go away when I leave.
You should keep it, though.
It's, again, character acting.
It's very like, you'll be typecasted.
Where are you from?
You didn't grow up in California, right?
I was born in California in Riverside.
I lived there until I was five.
Oh, Riverside.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
That's kind of where Kyle's from.
He's from Corona.
Yeah, we did talk about that, the 909.
And then I went to Chicago for like 10 years and then I came back to L.A.
When I was like 17.
Oh, yeah, Chicago?
They have deep dish pizza.
Do you like that?
No, I'm not from Chicago.
I'm from like two hours like...
But what do you think?
Now, since we were talking about pizzeries before and food, what do you think about Chicago
Deep Dish pizza?
I don't love it.
It's disgusting, right?
Remember when we'd always go back in like every, we'd always go, what was the place?
What is that one?
Luminati or something.
I don't know.
It was like the one place that person like all the time.
A lumini?
It sounds like Luminati, but I think it's Luminati.
I don't know.
You never went?
Didn't you, you went to Chicago.
Yeah.
We'd always go.
I'm going to do the movie in Chicago
next, or next week, yeah.
How long is that for it?
Just for like two days.
So a small part, but it's like,
it's cool I get to play tough guy.
That's so cool.
And that's one with Danny Trejo.
No, it's a different one.
Do you know what the actors are in it?
Yeah, but I got to look at the IMDB.
I don't remember.
I know their faces.
It's like a gangster movie.
Oh my gosh.
And do you know where we released?
Nope.
Just kind of like independent or is it?
One of them's Paramount Plus.
Wow.
I'm just doing random.
It's not like anything that crazy.
Nothing you're doing.
You're on HBO.
Not yet, but again, it's my...
What happens?
Is that, all the actors, are they still on that show?
Or is there like some, was there some controversy going on?
I think they're all still on it.
Yeah?
From what I've seen.
Or is that Stranger Things.
Yeah, that's Stranger Things.
Yeah, she went to the Stranger Things.
That one, I don't know.
I don't know nothing about that show.
I heard Millie Bobby Brown.
She's getting harassed or something.
Well, she, like the reports came out from Daily,
but it wasn't very accurate.
And then at the premiere,
she was like with him
and like taking pictures, David Harvard, right?
How could he be harassing her?
They have such a good relationship on screen.
Well,
that's a bad mentality to have.
I know.
I would say that about our abuser being like,
what do you mean?
You guys were laughing.
Yeah, you're right.
Damn.
Anyway, is everything going good with that?
We only have a few minutes left, but yeah.
No, everything's good.
Definitely part of the reasons I spiral is because of it,
but I just need to learn to put it behind me.
You know, I got to move past it.
But it's not that easy, you know?
Like when I was there, I was like, you know,
maybe this will make me move on and forgive.
But no.
Maybe you need to go back and throw up.
Maybe that's like what gets it out of you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I'm working towards it, you know?
Like I'm, I know that in order to move on my life,
I got to like put things behind me, you know?
I saw a meme or not even a meme,
just like an Instagram post where it was like,
like one of those motivational ones.
and it was a little kid saying to this this I think they're like an older guy or somebody's like
hey wouldn't it make sense it wouldn't it be better if you left that stuff behind it was like the past
it was like on his back big thing like he's carrying the past with them and did you post it to your story
nah I love I post them to my story all the time yeah I don't I don't like when people post shit like that
like though it seems like this resonated with you because you're going through that but it don't work for
everybody but that's not true because someone's going to resonate with that just like that that guy
who was like I was going to be an electrician now I'm going to be a barber like you could like be
inspiring someone's whole like new life path career yeah like for some reason that day I was like
yeah you know what I got to leave the past behind but if I saw that today I'd be like this
you know that's just me though yeah but it's this was great I needed this is like a therapy session
no no but honestly thank you like I was so shook that when you got all like deep into it
because we didn't talk much before because it's okay we have to go right now we have to get filming
but I think I think your like openness is good when you're your real self I think it's good
Well, yeah, what else can I be, you know?
I got to keep it real with them.
Nowadays, everything's fake, and it's only getting worse.
We're going to miss these days when there was realness.
Don't think it's only getting worse.
It is.
No, AI's taken over, so enjoy a while less.
That's crazy, no.
I have kids.
I feel like they're going to change the world.
Get them off their iPads.
Don't get them the iPads.
Just make them live in the real world.
Give them coloring books or something.
Make them right.
Right.
They do color.
They do.
Journals.
I'm right
But they're learning like languages
Like they learn Spanish
Do you think they'll be entertainers
Or do you think they'll
Be artists or
I'm starting to say
They're three in one right now
Maybe maybe
Like Malbo's pretty
She loves to sing
She loves to paint
You should put them in swimming lessons
Yeah
Because you have a pool in your backyard
Right
Yeah we just got a gate
We just got one of those clear gates
It's beautiful
Yeah it's very
So my brother and sister did with their kids
Like when they're super young too
They're like take the baby
And throw them in the water
And they're like ISRs
In survival, something.
It's scary at first, but it's crazy.
They learn how to swim as babies.
Yeah.
Yeah, we do because we have a pool and, yeah, we put them in a very young age.
Yeah.
When you're young, that's when you learn everything.
Your brain's like a sponge.
They say it's harder to learn a language after you turn seven years old.
Yeah.
Like up to seven, you can, like, absorb so much.
My daughter, I think, can speak three.
But they pick up on it really well.
And it's amazing.
I don't think anything.
I would love to.
And I really do try.
I've tried to like pick up languages.
And it's hard. I love to look in like Japanese.
In Japan?
No, but I'm going to go this year.
My friend was asking me about it yesterday.
He's like, yeah, you want to go to Japan to go skiing in February?
I'm like, I can't plan you in February.
Bro, you're talking about next year.
Oh, you're going to finish year.
Well, in February of next year.
So it'll be like within a few months, but it feels like I can't be planning things for that.
Who knows where I'll be in life in three months?
Maybe we should do, have you seen traders?
What is that?
Oh, you haven't seen it on NBC.
See, it's like, with all the, like, reality stars.
It's kind of like, what's the game?
What's that game called?
Among Us.
I don't know what that is either.
I've heard of it.
It's like a murder mystery show as like reality stars and Bachelor stars.
They all go on there.
So you want to make our own version of that?
No, we should go on it.
I'll go on their show.
What usually happens is like there's two people.
That's a Trisha mentality.
You can't just, for somebody like me, I can't just go on shows.
You got to have them.
No, we could.
Because what happens is, is like there's usually people from the same show.
So like, real world,
Road Rules Challenge.
There's like people from the same season.
So it was like Trishel and CT.
Do you remember them?
Oh, yeah, yeah, CT.
Yeah.
So they were on together on traders.
And they made it to the end because they're kind of had their alliance.
Either you're with the people from your show or not.
So like if there's housewives on, they band together or they like fight with each other.
So it would be from the same show.
Yeah.
I guess so.
Yeah.
Yeah, that'd be funny.
I'm down.
I think that'd be so fun.
I think we'd be a good duo too because like your strong suits are what we're,
I'm weak and then vice versa, you know?
Yes.
I think it would be, you have to check it out.
I can't believe I haven't seen Traders, but you have check it out.
But I'm happy to have you here as always.
It's so much fun.
I can't wait to do your podcast.
You guys go check out Jeff FM.
We're a podcasting.
I've been podcasting for like 10 hours straight this week.
And I love it.
Let me preface again by saying like preface, not preface.
What's the opposite of preface where I say something after?
Conclude?
Yeah.
Reenforce.
Reenforce that I do love podcasting.
I don't know if like I could keep up with like the hot topics, the drama of it all.
Because at the end, the day, sometimes I just don't care.
We've got a lot going on right now.
You're raising a family, three children.
Yeah.
But I love this.
Yeah, these are a good one.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's always good.
Let's promise we'll do one episode a year at least, you know.
I think we've done two this year.
Really?
Okay, that's probably too much.
And let's cut it back down.
Stop.
We've had a good podcast.
We'll keep doing them.
It's just hardly like your schedule's busy in my schedule.
You never know if I'm in rehab or something like that, you know, jail rehab.
No, I think you've hit your last track bottom, I think.
Thank you.
You go on the podcast.
You predict, so that means a lot coming from you, that that was my last Rock Bottom.
You won Rock Bottom?
I don't need no more life lessons.
That's it.
That's it.
You're done.
You're going to go on the Rock Bottom podcast?
I don't know what that is.
With Ned Fulmer?
No, I'm not at Rock Bottom anymore.
Too late.
Should I have me last month?
Now I'm making my comeback.
And I'm locked in on that.
I'm all excited about my comeback.
You're giving East Bonner down.
Yeah.
No better feeling than a man right before his comeback.
Yeah, that's very that.
All right.
Good luck.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me on just Trish.
Okay, we'll see you guys on Jeff FM.
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