Just Trish - Psyiconic on the END of Terri Joe & STEALING "I Love You Jesus" From Trisha
Episode Date: September 7, 2023Trisha sits down with both the iconic Psyiconic and self-proclaimed "God Warrior" Terri Joe to discuss their viral success on TikTok Live. Is the end near for the beloved character? Plus, Trish co...nfronts Terri Joe about stealing her hit song "I Love You Jesus" during that infamous duet with Madonna. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey guys, welcome back to Just Trish.
I have a most special guest today.
I mean, you're my first TikTok Live superstar.
Keelan Musk.
Just kidding.
Keelan Campbell.
I'm changing my last name to my mom.
Well, I thought, I always think it's like Kellen, like Melon.
And then someone told me Keelan, like Elon.
I always get like the weirdest renditions of my names.
I'm just like, yeah.
Whenever people ask me, like they just come up to me and they say like a different rendition of my name, I just go with that. Really? You don't correct people? I'm just like, yeah. Whenever people ask me, they just come up to me and they say a different rendition of my name, I just
go with it. Really? You don't correct people?
I'm just like, whatever. It's fine. I don't know who you're
talking to. It's better than people coming up and being like,
love you, Terry Jo. No, all the time.
Do you like it better when people call you by your name,
Keelan? No, I don't care. You don't care?
Because I heard a rumor, we're going to get to Terry Jo
in a minute, because that's a whole other thing, but I heard
a rumor that you're done with Terry Jo.
No. Okay, you're always going to keep gonna keep her yeah i feel like i always say that
like i don't enjoy doing it that's because i don't enjoy doing anything honestly yeah yeah
because you were talking about like you had another job that you just like hated like a
truck drive or like a robot driver yeah it was just like a regular car but it had like cameras
on it and like i guess i was just doing like mapping for their company or something like that how do you even get a job like that like where do you find it
i don't even know i just applied okay it wasn't like a family job or something indeed like just
applied to almost everything oh interesting and then how okay so how did you get on tiktok live
i don't know i think it was like the height of covet i always say that people always say
why do you always say i don't know and then give then give DMs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a vibe. I'm crazy.
I was just good, because obviously everyone was bored during COVID, and I don't even know what possessed me to just start going live, and I just threw on a wig and a dress and
started going live, and then just took off from there.
Well, that's what's interesting.
It's like you said, you kind of just go with everything.
You don't plan anything out.
So you just throw on a wig and a dress, but was this something you did before?
Were you drag or something before?
No.
I mean, like, that, the Terry Jo costume was, like, a costume I wore, like, as a grandma
for Halloween the previous year.
Oh, my God.
And I just, like, threw it on and just went on live and started saying random stuff to
people.
I used to go, like, on Omegle all the time.
What's that?
Omegle?
Yeah.
Is that the, it's like a web chat?
Like a chat room thing.
Just for fun.
You wouldn't record it.
Yeah.
And I would just go on there because it was funny.
I used to just talk to random people.
Like with my friends, we were just like bored.
So we would just go on there and talk to random people, like lie to them.
Oh my God.
That's literally exactly what I do on TikTok.
I love, I love lying to people in real life too.
For fun.
Like on the plane, just telling people like, when I was 14, I'd tell people I was like
married and had like two kids.
It's just fun.
I'm like oh congratulations
you're literally
in freshman year
of high school
yes
or I would tell the kids
at school like
oh my dad's so rich
I have like gold tap shoes
or something
you know
it's just kind of fun
yeah
I think it's just a fun time
but I always end up
telling people the truth
right after I lie to them
oh you do
wait why
it's just funny
to see the reaction
because they're like
why did you even just lie
oh my god
I know
but see that does that trickle into your real life too do you ever tell people like no actually you don't troll your friends It's just funny to see the reaction. Because they're like, why did you even just lie? Oh, my God. I know.
But see, does that trickle into your real life, too?
Do you ever tell people, like, do you troll?
You don't troll your friends.
I'm a little too honest, actually.
You're blunt?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, I feel like you would, like, hurt my feelings. Even as Terry Jo, when we went live, I know he was like, I don't know if this is, I didn't
know you were a character.
Yeah.
Which I guess is, like, the ultimate troll.
Yeah.
But then when I was like, oh, like, because when we went live, I was like, wow, you can
say anything.
Yeah.
And you're the only person who can say anything.
Not anymore.
Why?
I don't know.
Recently, I've been getting like banned like a lot.
No.
When I first started going live, I would get banned like almost every day.
But now it's starting to happen again.
Oh, for what?
Who knows?
Just for being.
Yeah.
Crass.
Just for being honest.
I get it.
It's not like I don't understand like what I'm doing and saying
it's like wrong
or wrong
right
because it's like
obviously for comedic
yeah
what's the word
relief
comedic value
I don't know
value yeah
so I
but
obviously you have to go by
the community guidelines
of TikTok
so I understand
when they ban me
why are they so strict
I don't know
you have a contact at TikTok
I don't
which means that you like made it so what do they tell you literally. Why are they so strict? I don't know. You have a contact at TikTok. I don't, which means that you made it.
So what do they tell you?
Literally the same thing.
They're like, well, you know what you're doing.
It's like, I don't know.
Would you clean it up or no?
It's like, that's not Terry Jo's character integrity.
I feel like it wouldn't make sense.
I've tried.
Like, me trying.
What's your trying?
Me getting on live and then trying not to say very vulgar things
for like two seconds
and then being like
I can't do this
yeah
what if you switch it
what if you're like
now Terry Jo's like
an actual Christian girl
yeah
she is
but like be real
she is
some of the stuff you said
was wild
oh my god
when we were talking about
like anal and stuff
I was like
oh my god wild
or maybe I said that
I don't know
someone said that
I just feel like
it's just funny
like the juxtaposition
of like saying
that you're a Christian and you're, like, holy
and stuff and then, like, saying the most wild things.
Well, that's, like, real life, though.
Yeah.
Christian people are always the first to be, like, judging you.
Like, disgusting.
That's disgusting.
This is disgusting.
I know.
But then be like, yeah, I'm better than you because I believe in Jesus.
They're all like that.
I'm so all about Jesus.
I love Jesus.
Same.
You know.
Do you?
Yeah.
I know.
I think it was Zach's thing
because I watched your interviews
Zach's thing where you're just like
yeah I'm not really like religious
yeah I'm not
I don't know if I'm religious
I love Jesus
I love Krishna
I love Judaism
I love Buddha
I love all of it
like I'm very like spiritual
which I feel like
when I was watching your interviews
you're like
I don't really know what I want to do
you're like
I'm not in touch with my thoughts
and emotions
is what you said
do you ever meditate?
no
have you ever tried it? No.
Just being silent? Yeah.
If you're silent right now, just close your eyes
and go,
mmmmm.
Feel the energy. Yeah.
You feel it? Do you feel it?
No, but you have to do it. Ready?
Just two seconds. Just close your eyes.
I'm going to do the vibrations and tell me if you feel anything
for literally 30 seconds. That's it. Ready close your eyes. I'm going to do the vibrations and tell me if you feel anything for literally 30 seconds. That's it. Okay, ready?
Um...
No!
It worked!
It worked! It's going to work! You do it
tonight. I'm telling you, you'll feel it.
You'll know the answers because I watch so many of your interviews
and you're like, I don't know what I want to do. I'm not
in touch with this or that. I'm like, get in touch with
your emotions, with your meditation.
It's really hard for me to do that. Just to sit silently? No, not to sit silently, but to get in touch with this or that? I'm like, get in touch with your emotions with your meditation. It's really hard for me to do that.
Just to sit silently? No, not to sit
silently, but to get in touch with
anything emotional. Why?
I don't know. Let's get deep. Why is that?
Does it come from childhood trauma?
I'm sure, but
it just doesn't resonate with me.
I can't really get into
You can't feel your emotions?
I'm sure I can, obviously, but I feel like I can't feel your emotions. Yeah. I'm sure I can, obviously.
But I feel like I don't feel it as deeply as other people do.
What's your sign?
Cancer, which is so weird.
Yeah.
Those are usually so deep and emotional.
Oh my God.
That's crazy.
I have no clue.
Maybe because you're from Texas.
There's a lot of like toxic masculinity there.
No offense, Texas.
I've never.
All offense, Texas.
Okay.
But you hate it?
Well, I don't hate it, but.
You're not proud or are you
actually
oh my god
that's such a weird
thing to say
but I also hate
like pride
oh my gosh
wait what like
gay pride
no not well
oh pride
I'm like
I see
I'm proud
of like okay
when people are
proud of anything
it just upsets me
I don't know why
I get what you mean
by like state
when people have
like a really big
connection to their
state or football team I'm like embarrassing I'm know why. I get what you mean by, like, state. When people have, like, a really big connection to their state or football team, I'm, like,
embarrassing.
I'm, like, why?
They're not paying you.
Right.
Why are you so, like, gung-ho about, like, this team winning?
You're not going to wear a Houston shirt or anything.
Never.
Houston, though, has a home with Rodeo, Lakewood Church.
Never been.
Do you know Joel's team?
I went to the, yeah.
Okay.
I went to the Rodeo once in my entire life, and I lived in Houston my entire life.
That's a vibe.
The Rodeo is everything. That's the only reason I go to Houston.
It was hot.
Yeah, we're both like sweaters. You were
saying, I was like, oh, you have to keep it. I sweat so much.
Me too. No one understands the struggle. And then why
in Texas, it's super hot. It's like muggy
too. It's like wet hot.
Which is so you would think that I would be used to it since I
literally lived there my entire life. Yeah.
It just gets worse and worse every year. Or do I
just get fatter and fatter every year me oh my god me i know i always wonder like skinny people are always
so cold and i'm always just like god what would that feel like i know there was like whenever
people come to my house they're like it's like a tundra in here i'm like it's like even to me like
i just i love that they have such a vocabulary that they use the word a tundra. Yeah, well, they don't use that word. Oh, you do. Did you go to college?
No.
I went to, like, a semester of, like, community college, and I was like, I'm done with this.
Same.
Did you finish the semester?
Well, I failed it because I only had, like, two classes.
Same.
And I didn't do any of the work.
I had two classes, too.
What did you take?
Do you remember?
It was, like, the basic class that they make you take.
Yes.
And I think, like, a reading class or something. I don't even remember. Me, too. So there's, like, general education. I've taken community college, and it was, the basic class that they make you take yes and i think like a reading class or
something i don't even remember me too so there's like general education of taking community college
and it was like math i had like a geometry or algebra or something intro like the most basic
one and i had like a history class and i couldn't i couldn't understand it well i never took a math
class in high school so i when i went to college i was like i used to hate math in elementary school
i used to think it was the hardest thing but like i feel like people think that because they're not
really paying attention.
Because when I started paying attention,
I was like, oh, this is easy.
Yeah.
No, but geometry and stuff with all the letters are complicated to me.
Yeah, like shapes and stuff.
And the shapes!
Is that geometry?
Because I don't know that either.
No, there's no shapes in geometry.
Like the triangles you're talking about?
Like the acute, obtuse?
That's geometry.
Geometry is shapes.
What besides triangles are in geometry?
I don't know.
Hexagon, octagon.
No!
Is that real? You could be trolling me? I don't know. Hexagon, octagon. No. Is that real?
You could be trolling me.
I swear to God.
Wait, really?
Yeah.
This is why I failed.
I didn't take any in high school, so I remember I went in.
Geometry is all shapes.
Oh, I had no idea.
And like degrees and stuff like that.
Oh, yeah.
That stuff I feel like you'd never use.
When are you ever going to use 90 degree anything?
Well, maybe if you're like a mathematician or something.
Or a scientist maybe.
Maybe scientists.
But how many people are actually scientists?
Three. Have you ever met one?
No. My teacher.
Do they have a degree in science?
Who? Like science teachers?
No. Teachers just need
a degree period and I think they can teach anything.
Interesting. Isn't that crazy?
I have to become a teacher tomorrow.
That would be everything. Would you ever go back to like
a regular job?
Oh, well. Oh, to school.
You're like, no, not to school. If I had
to, yeah, but like
It's so hard to go back. Like for
me, I'm like, I just keep doing, I mean
do OnlyFans, but would you ever do that?
No. Well.
As Terry Jo. Oh my my god I always talk about that
with my friends all the time like that would be something like so crazy to do I would only do that
let me not say that actually okay yeah you have like a manager and stuff you gotta like watch
what you say which congratulations booge on what having a manager sure I feel like I've had like
one my whole life and I'm like you're killing it I didn't even know like I do I guess I just like
this I'm so new to all this like social media stuff so I'm like, you're killing it. I didn't even know. Like I, I guess I just like this.
I'm so new to all this like social media stuff.
So I'm like, I kind of need someone to like help guide me through any of this.
And I was like, well, that would be a manager or like a.
Yeah.
And you're everywhere. Cause you were already like presenting at the streamies.
I was like, dang, they don't ever ask me to present.
Who are you presenting?
What was your award?
It was like the short form nominees.
So I guess it's just like TikTokers or like people make like short form videos.
And then you were supposed to go, but didn't.
Yeah, because I lost my wallet.
I don't know.
I was wearing like these shorts and I usually, maybe I shouldn't say that either, but I usually
have my wallet in my back pocket.
And I had it in my front pocket this time.
And I guess I put my phone out of my pocket when the wallet like slid out in the Uber
and I didn't know
until I was like
later that day
I was like
where's my wallet?
Did you contact the Uber?
Yeah.
We took like four Ubers
that day.
So I was like
I don't know which
I called all of them
and they're like
I don't see it.
Did you ever find it?
Yeah.
Oh okay.
The first one I got into
he was like
oh I found it
but I couldn't get your number
from Uber
because they wouldn't
give him my number
and then he gave it back to me the next day.
Oh, my God.
Was all the content still in your wallet?
Yeah.
And I was looking at like $5.
Yeah, I never carry cash either.
So you missed the streamies because you were looking for your wallet.
Dang.
I bet they would have been so excited because you were like the TikTok.
It's so funny.
I always talk about TikTok characters.
I usually am like, ooh, TikTok characters are cringe.
But I don't think of you like a TikTok character.
I think of Terry Jo as so real because you don't post as yourself rarely on TikTok.
I'm trying to get better at that
because I feel like
the people deserve that.
Yeah.
People love you.
Like even my real life people
like my glam people today
they were just like
oh my god I love him so much.
Like he's so great.
Like so funny.
I don't know why.
And in real life
they say you're funny though too
because like I was watching
your interviews
and you say you're like
really shy and stuff like that
which like I can totally
relate to too. But then all the people I know that know
you in real life or have met you they're like he's actually so funny too and says whatever
I try to be somewhat close to the characters I feel like I don't I don't want to feel like I
look a letdown even though I don't really care honestly because I'm just gonna be myself in the
way but like I feel like the juxtaposition of like Terry to me people are always like I was
telling you like they're always confused like why I'm so like juxtaposition of, like, Terry to me, people are always, like I was telling you, like, they're always confused, like, why I'm so, like, meek.
Yeah.
Meek, the word?
You're just not, like, loud like Terry Jo.
Which, who is?
Like, is anyone just running around calling people slurs?
Like, it's so weird.
I guess it's people that actually see her as a real person.
That's why they're.
There's some people who stay in character, like, the whole time and, like, never break character.
I think the funny part is breaking character.
Right.
It's just either, like, real you and stuff. I feel like I'm just always in character. I just love to be is breaking character. Right. It's just either like real you and stuff.
I feel like I'm just always in character.
I just love to be like,
are you a troll or are you real?
I'm like, I don't know.
I think it's kind of fun.
Maybe you are.
That is you.
Right.
It's like a big part of you, so.
No, you had said too,
I think it was on Zach's thing,
you had said that you take like a little bit
of everyone's personality.
Yeah.
Is that your real life you?
Yeah.
So you kind of just like,
who are you channeling today,
would you say?
You.
Wait, really? I know, I want to channel you too.. So you kind of just like, who are you channeling today, would you say? You. Wait, really?
I know, I wanted to channel you too.
I don't have an identity either, so I'm like, well, you're coming out, I'm doing this.
I don't know why, but anytime I'm near someone, I kind of mimic them.
Same.
Like, not purposefully, it just happens.
So like, yeah, I do that too, like an accent or like words people use a lot.
Oh my god, I get so bad at that.
Always.
Like, if somebody talks to me with an accent, I'm like.
You start doing it too.
Yeah, and I'm like,
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be annoying right now.
No, same.
Like, I was obsessed with Girls Next Door
and like Holly's laugh,
I was doing all the time without even knowing it
until you're copying her laugh
and I'm like, I don't even know.
Oh my God, I used to watch that.
That's so weird.
Did you?
Yeah.
And you also watched That's So Raven?
Mm-hmm.
So that's what's interesting,
it's like we're so far apart in age
because we're 95, I'm 88
and I was just like...
But we watched the same shows.
Like, I watched...
Maybe I was too old to be watching That's Soven i don't know i don't know well i
think that's where we came out when i was like elementary like late elementary i don't think
we're that far in age no yeah if you're 28 i'm 35 that's seven years that's a long time it's
literally not that we wouldn't have been in high school together it would have been like middle
school high school yeah have you met raven yeah yeah you met everybody. I met her like two days ago at a party.
Breaking news.
And she did not like me.
Why?
Because I kind of just went up to her and I just started like saying random stuff.
Oh, what did you say?
I'm also making all this up.
Oh my God.
And now I'm realizing what it's like to have a conversation with me and to be in my life.
Just constantly like, are you lying?
Yes.
You didn't meet her? Everything is in a lying? Yes. You didn't meet her?
Everything is in a lie, huh?
You didn't meet her?
No, I haven't met her.
Oh, no.
I'm so devastated.
I would have fully believed it, though.
Yeah.
I was going to try to make a whole story
and I was like,
this is going to be crazy.
Honestly, you should have.
I've never been trolled
except for just right now.
I feel like I'm pretty good
at spotting trolls
or knowing a troll.
Wow.
You'll never know with me.
No, that's what I believed you.
All of this was a lie.
I'm just kidding.
Is your real name Keylon?
Is it?
Isn't that crazy?
Wouldn't it be crazy if you were also a troll?
Like, me was another character.
Yeah, like, you're not gay.
You're not anything, you know.
Well.
You just say that so you can, like, say the stuff as Terry Joe.
You're like, it's fine, I'm gay.
But you're also like, ha ha, not.
You, like, have a wife and kids.
Ew. Well, the kids part. Relatable.'re like it's fine. I'm gay, but you're like not you like
The kids part is oh not the way well you see you have a wife any kids I just feel like it's heard too much for me. I can't handle those possibility of even myself
Yeah, I felt that way too. Yeah, Tommy mom. So you became one and then it's also very difficult
It is actually very hard
I feel like it when you actually become one I feel like it's people are like a scared to become a mom But like you became one. And then it's also very difficult. It is actually very hard. I feel like when you actually become one, I feel like people are scared to become a mom,
but when you actually, as if I know.
Yeah, no, no, but you're right.
You have to.
You have to become one.
But when you become one, it's like you just acclimate to the life.
Yeah, it just automatically comes in.
It's not natural, though, for me.
It was never natural.
But yeah, you do that.
You're just like, I'm a mom now, so okay.
You kind of have to get it together.
Mom things, yeah. So you'll never have kids. Maybe. You do that. You're just like, I'm a mom now, so okay. You kind of have to, like, get it together. Mom things, yeah.
So you'll never have kids? Maybe. You never know.
I don't know. Okay, so you're not, like, totally
against. Yeah, not totally against, but
right now, in this very moment, no. Are you dating
anyone? No. Are you on the apps?
No. God, no.
I wonder if you get kicked off the apps. I always hear people get
kicked off if they're, like, social media because they think they're fake or something.
I think that happens to, like, almost everyone who does
social media. Yeah. I feel like the only one you can do when you have, like, a large social media presence
is, like, Raya or something.
Yeah.
I never got on it.
I was always waitlisted.
Are you on it?
Mm-mm.
Have you applied?
No.
So you're just not about it.
I don't know.
I feel like dating apps are weird.
I'd rather just meet someone, like, organically.
That's the way.
The dating apps are weird.
Yeah.
I, like, could not do them.
Oh, my God.
When I first started going live, I was on dating apps, but then, like could not do them. Oh my god when I when I first started going live
I was on dating apps but then like I I had to use my like name but like half my name so just K-E-L.
Okay. And then like people in my comments started saying like happy birthday Kel and I was like I've
never used that name anywhere but on the dating app so I was like you definitely see my profile
I'm deleting it. Wait why? You don't think that's cool? Like, you could meet a lot more people that way.
Because then I feel like you're trolling me.
Yeah, in that way.
No, I don't think they'd be trolling.
I feel like they'd be excited.
It's like a fan with a celebrity.
Which is even weirder.
Wait, really?
Yeah.
I always loved the idea of dating a fan, because I love celebrities so much.
Yeah.
And so I was like, let's go home.
That is the other thing.
You're like, I don't get excited about anything.
I don't.
Why?
I don't know.
I don't believe it.
The other thing.
I don't believe it.
This is the other thing with the emotions
thing, I just don't care.
You're just even keel the whole time.
Do you get angry? Do you have any emotion?
Yeah. You have a temper? I get angry. I get sad.
And I get like, but I
don't feel it like as hard
and as deep as everyone else does. I think that's
just being normal. I think you just don't maybe don't
have a mental illness or something, you know? Maybe, yeah.
Because I think the mental illness, I have a mental illness. Yeah, that's what I feel. I think you just don't, maybe don't have a mental illness or something, you know? Maybe, yeah. Because I think the mental illness, I have a mental illness. I feel everything. I take
everything as rejection. That's what I'm always telling my friends. I always tell my friends that
I'm the most normal one. They're like, you're crazy. And I'm like, no, I'm not. Yeah. You
actually might be the most sane. Yeah. Other than you did say you heard voices in your head.
I don't hear voices in there. Oh, I thought that was, I thought that was, oh yeah. Well,
that's what I say, but I don't think everyone does. Well, like, your inner voice.
Just one voice. Yeah. There's not multiple people.
I hear, like, 17 people in there.
Maybe I, like, do hear two people. Okay.
It's just, like, the inner battle. Like,
I don't like this, but I do a little bit.
Interesting. What do you battle with?
What are they? Just, like, random stuff. Like,
you should probably go to the gym. The other part says
no.
Those are the voices you hear. Yeah. Those, like, the, I always describe them as, like, the angel and the gym. The other part says. No. Those are the voices you hear.
I always describe them as like the angel and the devil.
Okay.
So you actually hear those?
No.
Well, it's just like the inner conflict.
That's the voices.
It's not like you have different people in your head.
No.
I have different people in my head sometimes.
They've kind of gone away, but I feel like I've had that.
So when you said that, I was like, oh, interesting.
I do too.
That's called schizophrenia.
That's what I thought.
And then everyone came for me and like, you're not schizophrenic. Because I thought that too. And I actually went to a therapist for real. I told them I had schizophrenia. And everyone's like, oh, interesting. I do too. That's called schizophrenia. That's what I thought. And then everyone came for me and like, you're not schizophrenic.
Because I thought that too.
And I actually went to a therapist for real that told me I had schizophrenia.
And everyone's like, no, you don't have it.
And I was like, but someone told me I did.
They're like, you're self-diagnosing.
Yeah.
You're not a whole like.
I do self-diagnose too much.
WebMD.
WebMD.
I like, I look at everything.
I'm like, I had that.
Or I see someone with something and I'm like, I might have that.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Because I see on TikTok, there's so many people.
Like, you know, there's a lot of Tourette's TikTok and like that kind of stuff I mean maybe that's what I have
sometimes I have outbursts I'm not diagnosing
myself with Tourette's but I'm just saying like you know
haven't you before? maybe not Tourette's
maybe everything else
I think I thought I had like I thought I had
a sort of identity disorder which is kind of like what we talked
about like taking personalities oh that's gonna
sound so crazy but
I find that so interesting
what the the d.i.d yeah it's so interesting i saw i think anthony did a youtube video about
interviewing people and i and i didn't mean it like insincere at all in the moment like i really
thought i had it you know because i was like yeah like there's times i blacked out have you ever
blacked out and you like know you're doing something bad but you can't stop it no okay
you are mentally sane you passed. You passed the check.
For now.
That's amazing.
No, that's good.
So you never had any, like, breakdowns?
No.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, I can't even get myself that far, like, emotionally.
That's honestly good.
Yeah.
I think in that sense, it's good to, like, be in that level.
Yeah.
I feel like it's, like, maybe, like, a defense mechanism as well.
Because, like, I don't get myself excited about things because i
don't like being disappointed interesting that's so i get so excited about things i'm always
disappointed so i hate that feeling so much it's so bad or rejection i'm really bad at rejection
that's also why i like don't talk to people like romantically at all oh well sometimes i do but
like um frequently i don't do it frequently because i don't like the rejection i cannot be rejected
it's the worst messes with my ego of course with one of you just like oh my god i didn't i never But like frequently. I don't do it frequently because I don't like to be rejected.
It's the worst.
It messes with my ego.
Of course.
You're just like, oh my God.
I never found a boyfriend until I was like 32.
And then I was like, oh wow, someone likes me.
You have a couple years.
You have a lot of time.
Well, I make it there.
I'm just kidding.
I've never lived with a boy or anything.
So I felt like, wow, I must be awful.
I must be so ugly.
No one wants to be with me.
I highly doubt that.
It's hard. Because you expect it to be simple and and easy because like you two people who like each other but then it
just gets complicated for no reason i think it's because we're so special do you know what i mean
like sometimes when there's like special beings like the regular beings don't know how to handle
us you know maybe they see they see something they're like wow this person is i know i'm
intimidated by you so i feel like people see it because
you are it's interesting that you are so sane
because you play these characters so I'm like oh you're just like
an actor then maybe I'm
not sane maybe that's the outlet
the character I promise you you're the most
sane person I've ever met in my life yeah see that
you are and I'm shook by it
because you go into characters
so well to me that's almost like
a personality switch but I guess that's just acting.
Maybe that's the insane part now.
Right.
Like, who can do that?
Who does that?
Right.
And when you're in the characters,
do you feel them?
Like, do you feel their emotion?
No.
Okay.
Maybe only, like, if I can...
Well, I feel like on live it's different
because, like, when I look at myself in the camera,
I don't see me.
I see Terry.
Terry Jo.
I live. Which is a little crazy to say because it's literally me. When I'm't see me. I see Terry. Terry Joe.
Which is a little crazy to say because it's literally me.
When I'm like,
if I was to be like
in the Terry Joe costume right now,
I would still feel like me
because I can't see me.
Oh, I see.
So like only seeing yourself
back on TikTok,
do you see Terry Joe?
Yeah.
Well, we can set up one.
We can set up a thing.
Like a big mirror.
Yeah.
I love looking at myself though too.
It makes me feel more in like character.
I actually probably would like
get really dysphoric.
Really?
On TikTok.
Yeah.
They have these filters on there.
They're all the way up.
No, you look like you're TikTok.
I highly doubt that.
No, I promise you.
You literally look like you have a filter on.
Everything is nice though.
Me on the other hand, no.
I have 10 filters.
I put it all the way up.
You look exactly the same.
No, I'm a little bit of a catfish.
I feel like, you know, it's fine.
I know my angles.
TikTok, I can do the good angles.
I don't feel like I've met anyone, like any influencer that doesn't look the same to me.
Oh, really?
Oh, right.
Some I'm like, oh my God, is that the same person?
Tana?
No.
She looks actually, I just had her on and she looks so, she also looked very good in
person because she always talks about being facetuned.
Did you have you met her?
No.
Not yet.
No.
Who, is there any influencers or do you just not care?
Is there any that you're like, I want to meet this person?
No one.
Just me.
No.
Well.
Maybe.
I feel like low key Georgia is a little bit Trish.
Yeah.
I, well, literally it's like.
Like Pink Penthouse.
California girl.
Pink house.
Yeah.
Or like Pink everything. Pop star. Yeah. Pop star, Pink House. Yeah. Or like Pink Everything.
Pop Star.
Yeah.
Pop Star in the making.
Paris.
Literally anyone.
Okay. That's like Valley Girl.
I like to think it's me, but okay.
Well, I really don't even know anything about Paris Hilton either.
Really?
That's what it is.
I don't know anything about celebrity culture.
That's why I don't.
That's crazy.
So when you go live and like duet with like Doja Cat Madonna, are you just like, who are
these people?
No, I know who they are.
You're just like, I don't know these people? No I know who they are I know who they are I just like I'm not like oh my god
I'm not like a fangirl
So when the Madonna thing happened you weren't like
wow that's crazy
I obviously know it's crazy cause like
that's crazy but
I wasn't thinking like oh my god I'm on live
with Madonna right now. That's how I first found you
was everyone was talking about Madonna and I
love you Jesus and I played my song
we're gonna get Terry draw here
in a minute because honestly need to confront
her about this because I honestly
again didn't know you were a character and I was like wow this person
is actually saying that they wrote my song
like I was kind of like wow
okay delusional or something like that but then I'm like
do I what do I do how do I do and I was just
so annoyed because I was like Madonna loves my voice but I something like that. But then I'm like, what do I do? How do I do it? And I was just so annoyed,
because I was like, Madonna loves my voice,
but I thought they loved your voice.
And I thought everyone believed it,
because everyone's like, wow, Terry Jo.
I was like, this new generation might not know me.
Yeah, because it's so old.
That song is literally 10 years old.
The way I literally listen to all your songs.
No.
All the time.
No.
Ironically.
Not even ironically, yeah.
I'm literally like, in my car like.
No, you don't.
I swear. Really? But I have, well, that's going to sound mean to say that. I'm literally like, in my car like. No you don't. I swear.
Really?
But I have, well that's going to sound mean to say.
Tell me.
No, I can take anything.
I have like a weird sense of like music.
I think that is a compliment.
It's not that it's weird.
It's just like if someone heard me listening to Trisha Paytas, that would be like, why
are you listening to Trisha Paytas?
I don't know.
I think people would be like, that's iconic.
Okay.
But it's like Madonna, Britney,
Trish, Addison. Okay, well.
What do we think? Addison.
No, Addison's a bop. Okay.
I know, I used to be an Addison, like, hater. I used to be such a hater.
I'm in my Reformed era now. I'm in my
Christian girl, Autumn era. Yeah.
I don't, like, I don't think she's horrible. I don't even know her.
But,
that's all I'm told. Do you think it's better
music, me or Addison? You. Oh, you don't know her music, though, so that's okay.'m for do you think it's better music me or Addison you
oh you don't know
her music though
so that's okay
she only has two songs now
four
they're all a bop right now
they're out
I thought it was
to die for
and the
the one that just
the nothing on
but the radio
which I do like that one
that one's cute
okay so
but I haven't listened
to it like fully
so I can't really
give my opinion
right
are you into TikTok culture or are you just into TikTok no because you'd be on it I don't listened to it fully, so I can't really give my opinion. Right. Are you into TikTok culture, or are you just into TikTok?
No.
Because you'd be on it?
I don't.
I'd just be scrolling through TikTok randomly.
I know a lot of things, because I'm always on the internet, but I'm not subscribing to
it.
Does that make sense?
You follow some people.
Yeah.
I follow a lot of people.
But you just don't like.
Who's on your For You page?
I think it's mostly random people. It's never people that I follow, which is weird. Yeah, never. I see never anyone I follow a lot of people. But you just don't like. Who's on your For You page? I think it's mostly random people.
It's never like people that I follow, which is weird.
Yeah, never.
I see never anyone I follow either.
Yeah, you don't have to go to like your following list, which I also never do.
Me neither.
I think that's such a, that's what's silly.
They should put that in the For You, like the following.
They should mix it with the people you follow.
It's almost like Vine though.
Vine had the same thing.
I never was on Vine.
Really?
Were you?
Not like posting, but like watching.
I couldn't tell you one Vine person.
Who did you watch? Who did I watch? I guess David Oberg maybe. I couldn't tell you one Vine person. Who did you watch?
Who did I watch?
I guess David Dobrik maybe.
I don't know.
No.
I used to watch Zayn and Heath.
Wait, really?
You were a Zayn and Heath and not a David Dobrik fan?
Love that.
I feel like David Dobrik is more YouTube.
Really?
Was he on Vine?
I don't know.
I think he was, right?
I think he was popular.
Him and Liza were like a power couple.
Well.
Never heard of them.
Were they?
No.
No, I know who they they are I used to watch his
YouTube videos
but never his
you did
interesting
I was in them
yeah I've seen you
not a flex
I don't
like my friend
was like really into them
and like we would
just watch them together
I was like okay
interesting
anyone else
he watched on YouTube
that you can admit
Jeffrey
because you you clap with Jeffrey.
I'm not.
I'm not.
But he's another one whose music I really enjoy.
Really?
Yeah.
What's a Jeffrey bop that you love?
All of them.
Oh.
Yeah.
Which is another thing that's so weird because people are always like, you're listening to
Jeffrey's style, but it's kind.
Yeah.
He had some bops for sure.
Yeah.
I'm like warped to it.
That's so interesting because you go live with him a lot.
I don't know if the ones.
No.
I swear I've seen the one of you, him, and Eugenia. Oh, that's twice. Yeah. Yeah, like, Warped Tour. That's so interesting, because you go live with him a lot. I don't know if the ones. No. I swear I've seen the one of you,
him, and Eugenia.
Oh, that's twice, yeah.
Yeah.
I was drunk that night.
You were?
Yeah.
Do you ever go out there
and just, like, what did I do?
What did I say?
Well, I wasn't drunk.
I had, like, a margarita.
Right.
At a restaurant right before I went live.
Okay, that's not bad.
Just a little tipsy.
One margarita, I'm drunk, for sure.
Yeah, same.
Give me one margarita,
I'mma open my legs.
You may literally have
a margarita before here.
Did you?
No, I'm joking.
Oh.
I love a good margarita.
Yeah.
No, no tequila, though.
No tequila vodka?
Just like the mix.
Oh.
Yeah.
A virgin margarita.
Yes.
It's so good.
Like, alcohol makes me sick.
I don't know why.
Yeah.
I can do any drug, but margarita.
Wait, what?
You love it.
Alcohol's my favorite thing to do.
Really? Yeah. I mean, it's better than doing, like, cocaine. True. Which I don't know why. I can do any drug, but margarita. Wait, what? You love it. That's my favorite thing to do. Really? Yeah.
I mean, it's better than doing, like, cocaine. True.
Which I haven't done. Don't do it out here.
LA! I used to do it, but, I mean,
now everyone's, like, dying. They put, like, fentanyl in it and stuff.
I can't even smoke weed. Oh, because you think you're,
like... Yeah, I get, like, really, like, scared.
Like, I get paranoid. Like, you might die.
Yeah. I'm the same way. But definitely don't do weed.
Yeah. Do weed. I don't even know. Smoke weed.
Yeah, coke. All of it's bad. Yeah. If you're paranoid, I was always like that, too. Yeah. I'm the same way. But definitely don't do weed. Yeah. Do weed. I don't even know. Smoke weed. Yeah, coke. All of it's bad.
If you're paranoid, I was always like that too.
Yeah.
And one time I went on like a family trip with my cousins to Colorado.
It's like legal there to smoke.
So we're like, let's just smoke.
Yeah.
And then like the whole time I was like, they're trying to kill me.
With the weed?
No, like just in general.
Like they would walk behind me because we were in the kitchen.
I'm like, they're going to slit my throat with a knife.
I feel that way too sometimes.
I think that's just in general.
That's why I don't leave my house.
You know, I see people like at Target.
I'm like, oh, they probably want to kill me.
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I feel like it's the fame thing that, like, I can't go.
I used to be like, let's just go to Walmart.
Let's walk around.
What is there else to do, like, in Texas?
So we just, like, walk around Walmart and just, like, act crazy.
But, like, now I have, like, anxiety, like, walking.
Do people come up to you all the time? Not so much, but, like, act crazy, but, like, now I have, like, anxiety, like, walking. Do people come up to you all the time?
Not so much, but, like, when anyone comes up to me, like, I instantly start sweating.
I get so nervous.
Interesting.
What does your fan base look like that come up to you?
Like?
Usually women.
Okay.
Like, younger women.
Okay, so not threatening.
And gay men.
Oh, we have the same demographic.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love the whole entire internet, honestly.
Okay, yeah. Unless you're, like, gym bro, then you get, like, straight men. Oh, when I see a straight man come up to me, I immediately run. oh we have the same demographic yeah i love that the whole entire internet honestly okay yeah unless
you're like gym bro then you get like straight men oh when i see a straight man come up to me
i immediately run i'm like um why are you coming for me yeah yeah yeah but you give off kind of
gym bro energy you're very tall not in a bad way and a very like i saw you and i was like wow like
you get very like supposed to be like five two wait what christian woman five two christian woman
well on tiktok you do i don't know maybe you make yourself look more like petite or something the very like. I'm supposed to be like 5'2". Wait, what? Christian woman. 5'2 Christian woman.
Well, on TikTok you do.
I don't know.
Maybe you make yourself look more like petite or something.
The thing is way up there.
Do you do that?
Do you do that angle?
The high up angle?
No.
I'm not fully in frame, basically.
That's probably why you don't see me.
Because I literally look like the Cubs keeper.
No, you look so.
I'm seriously.
Or Quasimodo.
Not the Cubs keeper.
Wait, who?
Quasimodo. Quasimodo.
Love.
Out there. Waiting in the sun.
I know you're going to start singing.
We have to sing together.
I don't know any of, I don't think I've ever even seen that movie, actually.
Wait, how do you know Quasimodo, then?
I just know a lot of things.
Yeah, you're so smart.
Like, Tundra and stuff.
I'm like, wow.
I think it's just like my brain has like a little memory vault in there.
And I just like randomly memorize things.
Do you like consume
a lot of pop culture like movies maybe when i like used to watch tv growing up yeah but like
who watches cable anymore i know i kind of miss it besides raven what else did you watch growing up
mostly literally anything on tiktok i mean tiktok on disney channel were you a hillary duff person
or not really just the movie okay what j dreams? This is what dreams are made of.
You're the only one I think for.
I don't know why.
I thought maybe you would join in.
I thought maybe you would like a little singing moment.
I always like actually get super.
I never sing in front of people.
Wait, really?
Why?
You're so good.
Well.
You are.
When we did I Love You Jesus, that was a bop.
We have to do that when Terry Joe gets here.
I feel like it's different when I'm like in my house and like no one's like actually
in the room with me.
That's why I also don't like ever even think about the people that are,
there's literally 40K people watching me.
I'm like, okay.
Because I can't see them.
Right, so you think it's not a big thing.
Yeah, but if I stood on a stage in front of 40K people, I probably would pass out.
Have you done that?
Have you done shows?
You don't do live or anything like shows?
No.
Did you ever get presented with that?
Because I'm sure people would love to see it.
I think a couple people talked to me about it, but I'm terrified to do something like that.
Wow, that's so interesting.
Because TikTok Live, you are probably the most viewed on Live.
Do TikTok tell you that?
I wouldn't.
Well, I don't know.
I think you are.
I've never seen more people.
Besides, I guess Pinkie Doll is getting like 40,000, but I think besides her.
Shadi Bae.
Always live.
Did you try to tell me she ghosted me?
I DM'd her so many times.
My girl, she messaged me back once and then ghosted me. I was like, Shadi Bae does not want to come on. She said that she didn't you tell. Yeah. Did you tell. Did you tell you she ghosted me? I like DM'd her so many times. I'm like girl. She messaged me back once.
And then ghosted me.
I was like.
Yeah.
Shadi Bay does not want to come on.
She said that she didn't like me.
Oh.
Period.
Period.
Because who does?
Why should she?
I mean I love being shaded by Shadi Bay.
Like I love that she doesn't write back.
Like I've literally been in DM's with so many people.
And I'm like oh I love it.
It's kind of sickening.
It's like period.
Do you like her?
Do you like her lives?
I don't watch her lives no.
But like I've seen like clips of her.
Being crazy. I think she's. Yeah., but I've seen clips of her being crazy.
I think she's, yeah, I mean, she kind of just ignores everyone online, which I kind of love.
What a power move.
I guess I do that, too.
No, you're so interactive.
You're like, do any.
I don't want to do that.
Do any people.
That scares me.
I think that's so funny, because it's just random people just talking to them.
Oh, my God.
And how do you click on it physically?
I'm so like, don't know anything about this.
How do you physically click on it?
There's a button at the bottom left hand that says like co-host
and you can like just
invite random people
that show up in that list.
And you just randomly
pick people.
But like okay when I
got in there like did
you see me or you just
randomly picked me?
Yours was different
because you're in like
you're actually in my
life so I have to go to
like the guest queue.
I never knew how that
worked.
I was like hey put me
on but I don't know.
Thanks for the clout.
Yeah because you have
to be live at the
same.
No seriously I get so irrelevant so when any like new up-and-comer person i'm just like thank you so much like now
i feel like i just i know i feel like there's a couple people on the internet you're one of them
who's just like you could like literally never know you're like a cockroach oh my god thank you
best compliment ever i'm always gonna be here i don't think it's possible to like kill trisha
oh my god they guess someone's gonna kill me probably. Yeah. Me after
this is over. TikTok, my for you page
is always talking about like some tragic story and I'm like
I can't watch it. Like it literally puts it in my
head. I'm like a manifester person. Do you do any of that?
No. So if you think about something
you don't think it comes true? I think it happens
naturally because I'm a witch.
Are you? Are you trolling?
Slightly. Slightly a witch?
Yeah. Do you do a little spell work?
No, I'm slightly trolling.
Okay.
So then you're slightly a witch too.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just feel like I'm not like a seeker.
It just like happens.
It just comes to you.
I know.
I heard you say that too.
And I was like, that's crazy.
Like I just let life happen.
Yeah.
Which I think is kind of smart.
So I feel like once you like start like trying to force things to happen, it gets further
and further away. That's definitely true. I feel like it blocks things for sure. So in a way, you're kind of like, you start trying to force things to happen, it gets further and further away.
That's definitely true.
I feel like it blocks things for sure.
So in a way, you are a little Wiccan.
You are a little witch a little bit.
Wizards of Waverly Place.
Did you watch that one?
No.
That's what I'm like, what did I watch?
Yeah, you like just Raven.
Yeah.
I auditioned for That's So Raven when I was 12.
Did you?
Yeah, but I don't know if it was legit.
It was just like an audition in the mall.
Yeah.
Like literally.
Those are like scams.
Are they?
Okay. I remember it was for That's So Raven and they had us do lines from the actual don't know if it was legit. It was just, like, an audition in the mall. Yeah. Like, literally. Those are, like, scams. Are they? Okay. Yeah.
I remember it was for That's So Raven, and they had us do lines from, like, the actual
show.
Yeah.
Which was crazy.
They're, like, trying to get you to, like, take acting classes.
Yeah.
And pay for it.
Have you done them?
Mm-mm.
Yeah, I used to get scared all the time.
I used to, like, want to.
When I would hear, like, the little thing on the commercial, I mean, like, on the, like,
radio, they would, like, say, do your kids want to be on the Disney channel?
I'm like, yes, I do.
Yeah.
And I would, like, want my mom to do it, but I'm like, it's literally a scam. They never, like, kids want to be on the Disney channel? I'm like, yes, I do. Yeah. And I was like, I want my mom to do it.
But I'm like, it's literally a scam.
They never wanted you to audition or anything like that?
You'd have been a good child.
You could be on Disney now.
I see your vibe.
Because you look like you're 18.
You look so young.
I feel like I look like I'm 73.
No.
Why?
No.
You actually look like a backstreet boy or something.
It's the outfit.
I love it.
No, I live for this outfit.
I love it so much
i thought it's not in your insta story and i was like oh yeah looking good and i'm like i'm
an amazon church dress and you're looking so good i've literally i don't know i guess i'm just my
worst critic because every time i see myself i'm like yo what is that wait really so you have okay
so your body you said dysphoria if you saw yourself because i'm the opposite i always
think i'm like super skinny and then I see myself
and I'm like oh my god
I'm like so huge
I'm like oh look at me
well I guess like
if I don't see myself
I'm like I look fine
yeah
but the second I see myself
I'm like what is that
interesting
yeah I see it in like video
but then I'm like I'm fine
well there's nothing
we can do about it
I mean I can do something
about it
I love that though
we can probably like
work out and eat healthy
but who's doing that?
Not me.
No, you look great.
You actually look so great.
Like, I'm telling you,
you give Jim Bro energy,
for real.
Yeah.
I hate that for myself.
What's the energy?
What's the vibe you want to give?
I don't know.
TikTok superstar?
No.
What do you think of Bobby Altoff?
Who?
On TikTok, Bobby.
The one that did the Drake interview.
You don't know?
Oh, my God.
I love you.
I want to live in your world.
I'm so too obsessed
with TikTok and social media. Oh, it's the girl. They did, like, Drake interview. You don't know? Oh my god, I love you. I want to live in your world. I'm so too obsessed with TikTok and social
media. Oh, it's the girl
they did the interview in the bed, no?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's very deadpan. She's very
character. She's like, I don't know who you are. I feel like
so many people do that, though. Really?
Yeah. I know Zach Galifianakis has it
with between two and four. Yeah. And then
the other girl who does the exact same thing. Wait, who?
The one who does the interviews in the diner.
Oh, I don't know her. Chicken shop? I know
chicken fry. Brianna chicken fry?
Fried chicken? KFC?
I love KFC. I used to work there.
No! Yeah.
Tell me about this. Oh my
God. I used to work there for like, I think like
a year and a half. I think this is the longest I ever worked anywhere.
And I would do nothing. What do you
mean? You wouldn't serve people? You wouldn't like take their order?
I would do like the cashier thing
but like I wouldn't
like actually do work.
I was just like running around
like making everyone laugh.
I love.
And so they didn't fire you?
Eating the food?
No.
So what was your favorite
thing to eat there?
Everything.
Me too.
Well not the coleslaw.
My mom was a coleslaw
but I'm not a coleslaw girl.
Oh my god.
I hate coleslaw.
Yeah.
So that's like
why do they have it there?
They should have like replaced it.
I used to like
the way it's made is weird too.
The coleslaw? Yeah. Tell us. It's like I used to, like, the way it's made is weird, too. The coleslaw?
I get, like, yeah.
Tell us.
It's, like, obviously everything comes in a bag, but, like, it's, like, a big bag of,
like, the cabbage and all the mixture, and then they have, like, this weird white sauce,
and you just, like, pour the white sauce over the cabbage and, like, mix it together with,
like, a glove on.
It's so weird.
What about the potatoes?
Because I love the potatoes.
How are they made?
Instant.
No way.
You just put them in a microwave?
Not even instant.
Like, it's like white powder that you put in water, and it instantly turns into mashed
potatoes.
It's not even heated.
Ooh.
I kind of live for that, though, because it's good.
I mean, he'll tell you I prefer him over home-cooked mashed potatoes any day.
I don't even like mashed potatoes, actually.
It looks just chunky.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, put the corn in it, and then it becomes chunky.
You put KFC corn in the potato.
Wait.
What do you like at KFC, then? The chicken. You put KFC corn in the potato. Wait. What do you like at KFC then?
The chicken.
The french fries.
Oh, the french fries are.
They cook them in the same batter, right?
The fries and the chicken batter.
I don't know.
I never went to the kitchen.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I would just like walk straight past it.
I mean, I've cooked a couple like fries because they have me like drop them because they only
took like three minutes to cook.
The fries are great.
Yeah.
My fave.
I wish KFC would sponsor me. There were wedges when I worked there, but now to cook. The fries are great. Yeah. My fave. I wish KFC would sponsor me.
They were wedges when I worked there, but now they have like.
The seasoned fries.
Yeah.
The original recipe.
The secret recipe fries.
Have you ever met Colonel Sanders?
Yeah.
Tell me.
He came to our store once and we almost got like audited.
Is it audited?
Yeah.
What's the word?
Yeah, audited.
Like shut down because we have like roaches and rats and stuff.
Oh.
Yeah. And is it back open now?
No, they closed it permanently.
But after I stopped working there.
I almost believed you.
No, for real.
No.
I swear.
I'm so serious.
I've heard stories of Colonel Sanders like showing up, but it's not really an employee.
Well, it's not an actual like Colonel Sanders.
It's just like someone dressed as him?
Yeah.
I've heard these stories.
Yeah.
And I never met someone to verify it.
I heard it on like Reddit.
I also made that up.
Are you serious?
Because I was like, wait, I've heard stories like this.
I've never heard that before in my life.
Wait, really?
I've also never seen, yeah.
It sounded like word for word to me.
I read it on Reddit.
I'm scared of Reddit, actually.
Me too.
I can't go on it.
That put me in a spiral.
That put me in depression for real.
I feel like the people on there are like actually insane. mean they find everything because we did go on it to look
for you because there's just not a ton of interviews with you there's the paper magazine
there's the exact same there's you know there's stuff yeah wait what like random yeah random stuff
and kind of the same thing you know so i was like let me find something deep and then reddit goes
deep like they know everything like where you're from and i'm like oh i can't ask all these
questions they're so personal but it's like the weirdest place. I literally can't go in there.
Don't go in there.
That's so smart.
Do you read comments?
Mm-mm.
Yeah, it's so bad.
Well, I guess live you're kind of reading comments, right?
Not even.
Oh, really?
I can't see them.
They go too fast.
Wait, so how are you making money on there?
From tips?
Yeah, from the live gifts.
And you don't have to interact and they're just sending you tips?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I had to work so hard on that NPC thing, that trend.
I was doing that for an hour and I only made like 500, which was good, but then I was only
making like 40, and I was like, this is hard.
I literally tried.
I tried to do it for like two seconds.
I can't.
I can't keep up.
My brain can't keep up with the amount of the random gifts that are coming in.
Trying to say a specific thing for each gift is like two minutes.
You couldn't do it?
Were you doing it as Terry Jo or Keelan?
Yeah, Terry.
I wasn't intentionally trying to do it.
I was already live, and then I was like, let me just try and do this because I think it's
funny.
Right.
And then I stopped two seconds in. It's so
hard. Yeah. How they're going for so long.
I did it for like an hour. It was kind of fun.
I think it's fun. It's just like so time consuming.
It's like random. Yeah just go on OnlyFans.
I've seen this. It's so much easier.
Get money quicker there.
Well how did you do Jeffrey and Eugenia?
Because that's like the holy trinity of TikTok life.
Because sometimes like it just
just
The list is always so random when you click it.
So when I go on there and I saw Eugenia, it didn't say that she was live with Jeffree.
It usually shows that she's been live with someone else.
And I just clicked her name and Jeffree was there.
And you haven't met him in real life?
No.
They could be iconic.
I could see you guys together.
Okay.
I'm a little scared of him. Wait, really? Yeah, but not really. Right. I'm also scared of everyone. I'm see you guys together. Okay. I'm a little scared of him.
Wait, really? Yeah, but not really.
I'm also scared of everyone. I'm scared of everyone, too.
Yeah. No, Jeffree's cool.
I think we had, like, I don't know, maybe we didn't
have beef. I don't know. Sometimes, you know, you think about, like,
why did we fall out? Sometimes I forget.
I was just a hot mess. I just, like, hated everyone for a minute.
I think that was the point of,
like, the internet at that time, when everyone was just
falling out with each other.
It just seemed so messy. I think that was, point of, like, the internet at that time when everyone was just falling out with each other. Just being so messy.
Everyone was just beefing.
I think that was, like, the entertainment value of the internet at that time.
Isn't it crazy?
I kind of miss that time as an observer not being in it.
But, like, 2018, 2019, everyone's just canceling each other.
Everyone's just hating each other.
It was actually so funny.
I feel like no one's actually really cancelable, though.
I feel like you're only cancelable if you, like, let yourself be canceled.
I agree.
Unless you do something kind of, like, criminal or something that I think you're kind of canceled.
Yeah, obviously, yeah.
Yeah.
But like if you just like didn't say hi to someone at a party.
Oh, right, right, right.
Yeah.
I feel, yeah.
I think the internet's forgiving in general.
Even if you are the worst person,
sometimes they're like, it's fine.
Yeah, because then people are just like,
they're so wishy-washy.
Like the people who view like people on the internet,
they're like, we hate you one moment,
and the next moment they're like,
oh my God, we love you.
I was just talking about this. Yes, like how it kind of swings the pendulum. I never take anything seriously because like people hate me and they're like we hate you one moment and the next moment they're like oh my god we love you I was just talking about this
yes like how it kind of
swings the pendulum
I never take anything seriously
because like people hate me
and then people like me
and then people hate me
and it just
it messes with you
just roll with the punches
honestly
but you've always been on an up
you're on an up
you've never been cancelled
well
recently there was
a little bit of a little
where?
no I haven't seen this
yeah
it was not anything like
major
it was just like
some
that's why I don't get on reddit this is why I just learned about reddit recently did you see something? It was not anything, like, major. It was just, like, some. That's why I don't get on Reddit.
This is why I just learned about Reddit recently.
Did you see something?
It was just, like, some, like, thing that happened on live with, like, these people.
The group of people I go live with frequently.
And, like, I was, like, trying to make a joke because I thought it was funny.
And then, like, it got, like, misconstrued by the people in the audience.
And they're, like, you're a fake friend.
Like, we can't believe how fake you are.
And they all started, like, going off on me, and, like, it was crazy.
As Keelan you were?
Yeah.
Well, I was live as Terry or Georgia, and then they started saying, like, you're fake.
Like, you be talking mess about your friends.
Oh, my God.
And, like, it was so weird because it was all a joke.
So it was like, but they took it and ran with it.
Do you get bothered by it?
Mm-mm.
You're just like, whatever.
It's kind of, it's, like, annoying because I'm like, what are you guys talking about?
Right. But like also,
I don't care what you're talking about. Yeah. But also you're like
not going live as much. Yeah, it's because I'm
like back and forth from here to there.
Right. And like, and then also I keep getting
banned more recently and that's also annoying.
So I'm like. So where are you going to pivot to?
Do you have a next move? That's
what I'm like thinking about now.
I think you as you is just like good. You know, also with all like your friends because you have a next move? That's what I'm like thinking about now. I think you as you
is just like good.
You know,
also with all like your friends
because you have like so many
iconic friends too.
I think that'd be like fun
just a conversation.
Conversation with Psy Iconic.
What is Psy Iconic?
It's iconic.
Psy.
Oh,
like psycho?
Like Psy-conic.
It's because I had this friend.
Shout out to Hope.
Shout out to Hope.
It's Hope.
It was a friend I used to work with.
At KFC?
no it was right
after KFC actually
where was it?
it was a call center
okay
yeah which I did
no work at
you didn't work
at the call center?
I took maybe like
five calls
at the call center
what kind of calls?
it was for
Citibank at first
like they were
doing some kind
of rewards thing
yeah they're kind of trash
and literally no one
would call
so we would just
sit there
and get paid for it
love that
okay so Hope
that's Ari
back to Hope
she used to try
to say the word
psychotic
but she would say
psychonic
and I was like
wait that's kind of
I would love it
psycho and iconic
put together
which are you more
a psycho or iconic
probably psycho
no I don't think so
it's so funny
that you think that
because you're literally so the most normal person
I've ever met in my life.
I always say that to my friends.
My friends don't believe me.
So I'm like, I must be crazy.
I'm scared for you to move to LA though because you're so cool and normal.
And all the people I know from Houston are literally my favorite people in the whole
world.
So I'm like scared for you to move to LA.
I don't think it's possible to change me because I've been this way my entire life.
Where are you going to move to?
You think you'll move in the next?
No clue. No idea. Do you go out to WeHo?. Where are you going to move to? You think you'll move in the next? No clue.
No idea.
Yeah.
Do you go out to WeHo?
Yeah.
Do you go to like a club?
Oh.
Yeah.
I wouldn't think of you as like going out because you seem like you're not shy, by the
way.
Like in interviews, you're like, I'm shy.
But you're actually not at all.
You're actually very outgoing.
Well, I think what it is is I'm scared of men.
Men like freak me out.
Same.
And I just realized the podcast I was doing with they were with men like
right now I feel so comfortable I don't I don't feel nervous at all yeah yeah we don't like any
toxic masculinity or anything like that in general yes that's how I feel too I'm like I always loved
a feminine guy you know I just think that's like better and like feminine energy I don't mean like
I mean I love feminine too but I just like those ones that just try to add I don't know and it's
also the hypocrisy of it I don't know the judgment of it I know we're working on it Dr. Drew told me I need
to start having more empathy towards uh men and I'm like I don't know yeah they need to have more
empathy towards everything yes that's what I'm saying and I feel like it's just day as if I'm not
sitting right here no you give off the best vibes your energy is everything but men scare me too
it's the worst.
Like, how are you supposed to date them?
That's the curse of liking men is like, they're also awful.
What are you supposed to do?
Right.
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Dildor. Oh my God. I got banned because my friend was showing showing me this video of this lady. Can I even say that?
It's like something a little vulgar.
Yeah, I think so.
It's like the video of this lady.
She's like, can I fuck you with my dildor?
Dildor?
Yeah.
I don't know why she said a dildor that way.
Oh, it's just like an accent.
Maybe like dildor.
I don't know what she was saying.
But I kept repeating it over and over on the live.
That's when I started getting banned, actually.
No way.
You can't say that?
That's so weird. And they're like, banned for sexual activity i was like no yeah tiktok alive scares
me for that reason for sure i don't know i mean it's you look just for like a week something like
oh and then you come back yeah and you don't do like regular tiktok trends no not usually no how
come like no sounds or anything i don't know It just never interests me. Or story time? Really nothing interests me. I almost like started
picking at this.
Oh, a little ASMR?
Like,
like picking bugs?
No, that's a good thing.
Like you pick bugs
out of the microphone.
You never seen that?
I've seen it.
I don't.
I love it.
Like, here's a little lice bug.
Yeah.
Just get this lice out of there.
ASMR freaks me out.
What?
Why?
Why?
I'm just like,
what are you doing?
Calming the nerves.
See, you're not in touch
with like all your non-physical
so you don't get that. But like, maybe you need to listen to nerves. See, you're not in touch with all your non-physicals, so you don't get that.
But maybe you need to listen to a little ASMR and be in touch with it.
Because the non-physical you probably misses the physical you.
Your being.
I sense it now, the non-physical being trying to get inside you.
I'm very clairvoyant this way.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Because you are.
You're such.
I'm being serious.
You have such a light.
I feel like you haven't tapped into this light.
When I see you on this next thing, you're like, I don't know what I want to do. I'm like, but you're such a light. You're such a beam. You have such a light. I feel like you haven't tapped into this light. When I see you on this next thing, you're like, I don't know what I want to do.
I'm like, but you're such a light.
You're such a beam.
You're such a beacon for God, you know what I mean, or the universe, whatever you want
to call it.
It's coming through.
Yeah.
I feel like life is just so mundane and boring sometimes.
Oh my God.
You need to get excited about something.
No celebrities excite you.
Doja Cat didn't excite you.
I love Doja Cat. Same same that's weird like i i
know these people are and i love them i love her music but like it would i'm not like oh my god
yeah really because you also went to a cali uchi show i just heard yeah and that didn't excite you
she's like my dream i love her so much and i'm like how does that not she like invited you
want to do tiktok with you and you're just like whatever yeah i'm as because what am i supposed to do i don't know i don't know what it is i get what you're
saying i'm so obsessed with celebrity i'm not sure why i'm so obsessed with like like you too
like getting all these like 50 000 people to watch i'm so like want to know i think because i'm so
obsessed with fame and stuff like that i mean i want to know what like what is it like why these
people and when you meet celebrities or people like you with a lot of followers like there is
this like light in you and i'm always just like oh i want to i almost want to suck it or something you know what i mean
get that energy into me
suck that energy yeah i feel like that's obviously the appeal of like famous stuff but like i just
never it never is appealing to me like i've never wanted to be famous ever in my life wait really
yeah wow i should rather not be famous.
Oh, shit. Well, maybe you did the wrong thing, because now
everyone knows you. Well, no. I don't
care either way, but I would
have rather just been wealthy
and stealth. Do you play the lottery?
I played it twice, and it also messed with my ego
because I thought I was going to win. You've got to keep playing it,
because I'm going to win the lottery, but I've been playing for three years
now, and I play every day. But you should have won it the first
time you did it. No, I don't think so.
I feel like I need to, like, put in the money, the time, the sweat, the tears, all of it, and it's going to win.
I feel it.
You should play.
My friend told me, well, she's, like, she has, like, a math major, and she says, like, people who, like, in that field, they call the lottery a poor person's game.
What?
Why?
First of all, me.
I spend all my money?
Yeah,
because like
you're like hoping
to be like rich
and get the money from that
and you're like spending
so much money
to get money
that's like
the probability
is like so slim.
But someone wins it.
Someone wins a billion dollars.
Why can't it be me?
Why can't it be you?
True.
Which is why I get upset
when it's not me.
Oh, you gotta play to win.
I feel it.
I play every day.
It's happening tonight.
I gotta get my lottery ticket after this. I play like once or twice or maybe Oh, you gotta play to win. I feel it. I play every day. It's happening tonight. I gotta get my lotto ticket after this.
I played like once or twice or maybe three times
and I didn't win, so I'm like, I'm not doing it again
ever. Oh, man. I feel like... I should've won
the first time. Would you just be out of the...
Would you go off social media if you won? Like, if you had
a billion dollars, would you like it back? Um, I don't know.
So you might like it. Maybe low-key, a part of you
likes it. I don't hate it.
Okay. But it's not where I saw...
I don't really... I don't ever think about the future, so I was. But it's not where I saw, I don't really, I don't ever think
about the future,
so I was going to say
that's not where I saw
my life going,
but I've never seen
my life going anywhere,
so.
So it never feels
like a chore.
Do you get excited
to play your characters?
No.
Oh.
I almost got you.
I was like,
you're excited about this.
So you're just like,
I don't mind it.
Yeah, I don't mind it.
Yeah, that's mostly
what I'm doing.
It's better than
driving a robot.
True.
I was literally like,
driving that car, like about to drive into'm doing. It's better than driving a robot. True. Yeah. I was literally driving that car.
I was about to drive it into a wall.
Oh, yeah.
Those are the thoughts in my head.
Well, they used to be the thoughts in my head.
I used to get those all the time.
Yeah.
Like, just drive it off a cliff.
Especially when I worked at Amazon.
That was even worse because it was hot.
And I'm running back and forth to people's houses.
I'm like, I'm going to crash this van into someone's house right now.
Yeah, I would get that too.
Poor Amazon drivers. They really got it. They'd be delivering at 10 o'clock at night. I'm like, I'm going to crash this van into someone's house right now. Yeah. I would get that too. Poor Amazon drivers.
They really got it.
They'd be delivering at 10 o'clock at night.
I'm like, oh my God.
Especially in Houston.
Like my, oh my God.
I almost like gave information away.
Were you going to say like a specific area?
No.
I was going to say something else.
Okay.
Like it's hot.
It's literally like 105 degrees and they're like out there like working.
Like I don't know how I did that.
Yeah.
That's insane to me. And I feel like you only think about Jeff Bezos being like a billionaire and they're like out there like working like i don't know how i did that yeah that's insane to me and i feel like you anything about jeff bezos being like a billionaire and
you're like you're not getting paid a billion dollar like they should pay them more honestly
if i was a billionaire i would make sure all my employees get like a hundred dollars an hour or
something i don't know like they don't pay people like a little bit over a livable wage especially
delivery people like you're going into people's houses you're putting your life in danger like
even people who work at like mcdonald's i feel like they should be getting paid like so much
that first of all is like a hard job because like it's stressful so hard like the amount of people
that are in the line almost every day and the buzz when i was like i've seen that in the thing
would drive me crazy the drive-thru thing yeah you would think you get like a second of like peace and then you hear ding, ding, ding,
ding every single time.
And then people go, uh.
Oh yeah?
Just like, you have PTSD from it.
Yeah, literally.
How would you do it?
What was your, okay, so I'm like, I'm going through a drive-thru, ding.
How do you answer?
I would just be like, thank you for choosing KFC.
What can I get for you today?
Ooh.
That was good.
I'm like, um, I'll have, okay, one second.
I'll just mute myself and curse you out.
Do you really?
Yeah, well, I wouldn't curse you out, but I would. I love that.
I'll have
original recipe chicken breast.
Wait, no, extra crispy chicken breast.
Yeah. Mashed potatoes, no gravy,
and corn. And I'll be like,
is that all? Actually, you know what?
Can I get a Diet Coke?
And you're supposed to be, we only have Pepsi.
Yeah. I literally,
that was like,
I worked there in like 2016
I feel like. Okay, long time. I just love
fast food role play. Like, I love the idea
of being a fast food, like, you know, like,
doing the little clicky thing. I never got hired, for real.
I applied at a McDonald's and I did not get hired.
No one would hire me, and I mean that so sincerely. Why? I don't thing. I never got hired, for real. I applied at a McDonald's and I did not get hired. No one would hire me. I mean that so sincerely.
Why?
I don't know.
I think I looked unkempt.
You mean like now or like before?
Before.
Yeah, yeah.
I haven't applied recently, but I feel like.
Because I haven't seen you.
I would love, like when I went to Raising Cane's,
they only let me do the counter.
I wanted to do the drive-thru
because I wanted to wear the little headset
and stuff like that.
But I agree with you.
I think it's like a thankless job
and they're so nice. Like every single fast food
employee that I go through is so nice. Starbucks too. There's a local
Starbucks here that's so great. If I win the lottery I'm going to pay
I'm going to give them $200 an hour for the rest of their lives because
they're so sweet and so nice. And I just
feel like people are so like this isn't right. This isn't the right temperature.
Oh. So when you started making money
what was like what's your splurge item? Uber
Eats.
Like I don't buy anything. You're not a spender?
Mm-mm. So what do you do? You just save your money?
No. Uber eats.
You spend that much on Uber eats?
Literally. Well I just like
I kind of get like very willy nilly with
my money when I have it. I start
like just buying almost anything and
like going like taking
random flights to places.
But I'm just living life.
The money will come back. Yeah.
Well, that's why
you're probably like a millionaire
because people will be
sending you roses
and cowboy hats.
I wish.
I bet you made a million
off of life.
At least.
In total,
like since I started doing it,
probably not.
No.
In two years?
Because how much is a rose?
A rose is like a dollar,
isn't it?
Not even.
I feel like a rose
is like 50 cents.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
People will be spending on there.
People will be spending on TikTok.
Yeah, it's because TikTok literally takes like half.
That's what was crazy.
So when they were paying for memberships, I was so excited.
I was like, oh my God, $6.
Because I can't figure out Twitch, but I love the idea of Twitch.
And I was like, ooh, okay, I'm going to go live.
So I was going live all the time.
And yeah, it was like so much.
So many people were subscribing.
But for me, I think they took like 60% for real.
Yeah, I think it was 60 at first.
I think maybe they changed it to 50.
I'm not sure.
Maybe it's still 60. It was crazy. You'd have have like ten thousand dollars worth of memberships but you get like
four thousand dollars exactly tick tock so you really don't make that much money like it seems
like that much like if like you see like the gifts and you're like oh this gift costs like
like a lion will cost like three hundred dollars but the creator would get like half i know that's
like that's the scam of it i love to talk though don't ban me i live for tiktok they have a new creative reprogram beta thing that's good too
it's like kind of money you know over a minute i've been doing all over a minute tiktoks yeah
i can't get myself to do it what oh because you just don't like to do the tiktoks yeah i just
don't like posting i mean i'm just so lazy honestly no you're not i swear you're liable
well you were live like five times a week that That's hard. But that's like fun.
You just like.
Yeah.
So you were doing it for enjoyment.
You just have to make money.
It's like fun to do.
Sometimes I get like annoyed by it, but like that's anything.
Yeah.
That anybody ever does.
But like I'd rather be doing that than like driving for the.
Yeah.
But you're the ultimate views for people.
Once again, thanking you.
Every podcast you're on, you get the most views.
Yeah.
I feel like YouTube
is such a weird place though now.
I feel like,
in my head,
I feel like people
don't really watch
YouTube videos anymore.
Yeah.
Or is that not true?
It's mostly long format.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think there's like
vlogs or lifestyles
or anything like that.
I think it's more like podcasts.
Yeah.
Definitely no like
vlog squad type videos
or anything like that.
Or like just regular like tags
if we used to do like
boyfriend tag or stuff like that.
I don't think people do it anymore. I love that era. Yeah era yeah dang I wish they'd come back did you ever watch them no
you know the day I would watch like the youtubers I liked and if they did the
tag sure I don't even know who I used to subscribe to obviously you please give
me more I want to know more people you watch on YouTube maybe which is like
show you yes oh my god I don't like I can't name them off the top of my head.
I just like,
I literally have not watched YouTube video forever,
but it's usually just like the,
Ooh.
Oh my gosh.
The main people,
honestly.
Like this is from like,
Troy Savant.
Okay.
We talked about him.
Try guys.
Okay.
Okay.
Try guys.
Keenan,
JC,
Coco Jones.
Oh my gosh
Adam Ray
okay
okay we love Adam Ray
Dolan Twins
what happened to them
this like
YouTube channel
was like from like
forever ago
oh my god
Jeff Wittek
Emma Chamberlain
you're a subscriber
okay Garrett Watts
random but love that
iconic
I mean great
okay you have David
you have Jacob
you have okay
Heath and Zayn
literally almost everybody that like.
Tana, Nicki.
Wow, you are subscribed.
These are all your subscribed people?
Yeah.
Aaron Rhodes.
Oh my God.
Shay Mitchell.
Yes.
That's so funny.
Oh my God.
Wow.
I actually have not went to this before.
Alexis G. Zaw.
Yes.
I never watched a single one of her videos.
Okay, just subscribe to support.
Oh my God.
Okay.
We love Superfruit.
Kingsley.
Kingsley, I used to love him. Oh my God, I haven't seen him since. I've ever watched it in his video. Oh my god. Do you watch any of these people?
I kinda used to just like subscribe to people who like I saw with someone else I liked. Right. Like collabs
Yeah, I was like, okay. How did you see me for the first time? Just you I don't think I've oh, maybe I've seen you with
Gigi first. Ah, love Gigi. She's great.
Oh, my gosh.
I think she was one of the first YouTubers I ever subscribed to.
Really?
She is literally the best person.
Best human being ever.
Okay.
I love her.
I've never met her.
She's so great.
Oh, my gosh.
She's cool.
I used to really enjoy watching her videos.
So good.
She's been off for so long, too.
Yeah.
Who was your trolling inspiration?
You're like, I'm going to start trolling.
Or would it just come from you? Yeah. I don't know. I think I off for so long, too. Yeah. Who was your trolling inspiration? Like, you're like, I'm going to start trolling. Or would it just come from you?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think I've just always been like that.
Like, before I even knew what the word troll was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I've just always been like, just lying for no reason.
I love it.
I relate to it.
I love it, too.
It's just kind of fun.
Even to this day, I'm like, I'm going to stop trolling because I'm like a mom.
But sometimes I just love to have a little troll moment.
I think it's like. It's like, what else are we supposed to do? It's kind of just like Even to this day, I'm like, I'm going to stop trolling because I'm like a mom. But sometimes I just love to have a little troll moment. I think it's like what else are we supposed to do? It's kind of just
like making up stories. You're
a storyteller. Exactly.
You're just creative, honestly. It's like having an imaginary
friend or an imaginary life, you know?
And if people want to believe it, then that's on them.
Yeah. I don't know.
But like I said, I always tell the truth
right after I lie. Because I just like to see
the look on people's faces. Maybe I should do that.
Maybe people would like me a little more.
Maybe.
Have you ever been in character while dating?
I've never dated anyone.
I've actually never.
You've never had like a long term?
Uh-uh.
Wow.
I know.
Do you want it or no?
I don't know.
It's the same thing.
I'm just like, if it comes to me, it comes to me.
And if it happens, it happens.
Yeah.
It's not like something I'm't know. It's the same thing. I was like, if it comes to me, it comes to me. And if it happens, it happens. Yeah. It's not like something I'm like seeking.
Like I've talked to a couple people, but nothing has ever been like too serious.
Would you ever come out with Keylon music, not Terry Jo?
No.
God, no.
No?
Because you do sing a lot in your lives.
Yeah.
Here and there.
I enjoy singing, but like never in front of people because I'm scared to sing in front
of people. Really? Yeah. So we're not going to have a singing moment today. I enjoy singing, but never in front of people, because I'm scared to sing in front of people.
Really?
Yeah.
So we're not going to have a singing moment today.
I was really excited about it.
Maybe Terry Jo?
Well, I feel like once I get comfortable with people, I will sing in front of them, but
I've never actually tried trying to sound good.
Maybe try the Raven theme song.
You can gaze into the future.
Is she even singing that?
I feel like that's more like rapping.
That's right.
Yeah, no.
She's like, wait, what's the next line?
As in, gaze into the future.
You might think life could be a breeze.
Yeah.
Sing.
You're so good.
She's so good.
Raven's so good.
And that's your, like, hero.
She is really good singing, yeah.
I wouldn't say she's my hero.
I've heard you talk about her so many times.
But that's because that's, when people ask me, like, what I used to watch growing up,
or, like, what inspires, like, what I do, when I think about it, I'm like, maybe that,
because she does a lot of character work on that show.
Right.
So, like, maybe.
And I always laughed at that.
That's the only show I've ever laughed at in my entire life.
I actually hate comedy in general.
What do you mean?
I don't know.
Like, I hate comedy.
You don't think things are funny?
I think things are funny that aren't trying to be intentionally funny.
I get you.
Yeah.
And for some reason, that show is so funny to me.
I mean, it is funny.
It's a good one for sure.
I'm kind of with you, too.
Things that people find funny, I don't.
Especially TikTok.
I can find so many TikTok cringe.
I'm like, this is not funny.
Because so many people do act on TikTok.
Oh, my God.
Well, you only have Terry Jo here today.
But there is one that loves vampires.
It's Amethyst. Amethyst. There's some more, too. I actually hate that name. Why did you only have Terry Jo here today, but there is one that loves vampires. It's Amethyst.
Amethyst.
There's some more, too.
I actually hate that name.
Why did you choose Amethyst?
I love it because it's a crystal.
It's very spiritual.
I think because everything, I just named them randomly.
Actually, Terry Jo is one of my mom's actual aunts or cousins' names.
Oh my God.
And I thought that was the funniest name I've ever heard in my life when she told me that.
I love Terry Jo.
I literally was dying laughing.
She might sue you.
She's dead.
Oh.
Well, thank God,
because now you're making all the money
out for an ape now.
Oh, my God.
I just, like,
I don't know why I just gave her that name.
Is she actually dead?
Are you trolling me?
No, she's dead.
Okay.
Rest in peace.
I think so.
She was, like, older.
Oh, poor Terry Jo.
What a great name.
I've never met her.
I don't even think my mom
even really met her.
Oh.
Yeah.
You just knew that you had
an aunt named Terry Jo. Yeah. Okay. Well, maybe she has met her my mom even really met her. Oh. Yeah. You just knew that you had an aunt named Terry Jo.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, maybe she has met her
because she said she loved her,
so.
Okay.
And then Amethyst,
you're just like.
Yeah, I don't know
where that name came from.
It just came out of my mouth.
I also feel like, okay,
maybe this is the narcissist in me.
I'm like, maybe Amethyst
is kind of based off me, too,
because we had vampires
in our house.
Yeah.
And I was like.
Maybe all of it's based off me.
I was like, wait,
is this about me?
Maybe you are all these characters. Terry Jo. Yeah. I mean, because I have Christian girl. I feel like it's almost about it. I was like, wait, is this about me? Maybe you are all these characters.
Terry Jo.
Yeah.
I mean, because I have Christian girl.
I feel like it's almost about everything.
Like, everything I've ever saw in my entire life.
Like.
You just accumulate it all.
Yeah.
You're so smart with it, too.
We had vampires in my old house.
What do you mean?
Like, vampires would eat the tampons.
And it's crazy.
But you don't know about tampons.
Clearly.
Terry Jo might.
Yeah.
Does she get sponsored? Because Tampax was sponsoring Terry Jo might. Yeah. Does she get sponsored?
Because Tampax was sponsoring
everybody for a minute.
Did you ever get sponsored
like Terry Jo?
I don't think I've ever done
like a sponsored post.
Oh my God.
So you're just
balling off TikTok life.
Am I?
Yes.
Yeah.
Bougie Uber Eats
because Uber Eats is not cheap.
It's not Uber Eats.
It is.
Let me tell you
when we do Cheesecake Factory
just the two of us
it's literally $100
because there's like
a charity fee,
delivery fee,
service fee. Well it's a Cheesecake Factory. Of course it's going to it's literally $100. Because there's like a charity fee, delivery fee, service fee.
Well, it's a Cheesecake Factory.
Of course it's going to be $100.
We get two meals.
We get fried mac and cheese balls and a salmon.
But we're Cheesecake Factory.
They're already expensive.
It's not Mastro's, but it might as well be for that price.
I don't think I've ever been there.
Mastro's?
Yeah.
We should go.
I always just want to hang out with everyone, but then I never hang out with anyone because
I'm so shy.
Like, I'm actually shy too.
But we can still go.
If it was you, I'd go with Mastro's.
Yeah.
I feel like I've never.
Don't you have like an in advance with Mastro's. Yeah. I feel like I've never, don't you have like a, in advance?
Reservation?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, no, but you can just kind of show up.
We just kind of show up.
We made one the day of.
You just go on open table.
It's not like that fancy and bougie.
Anything you need a fancy reservation, like Nobu can't get in.
What is the other one?
I think it's only, is this one, there's one here and there's one in New York.
Maybe it is Mastro's.
Mastro's.
Is it a steakhouse?
There's Morton's, Mastro's. I think it's a tag in food. Carboni. Yeah, it's that one. There's one here and there's one in New York. Maybe it is Mastro's. Mastro's. Is it a steakhouse? There's Morton's, Mastro's.
I think it's a Tagan food.
Carboni.
Yeah, it's that one.
There's one in Vegas.
I don't know if we have one here.
I haven't been.
Yeah.
What's your favorite fancy restaurant?
I don't like fancy restaurants.
Really?
You just don't like the food?
I've never been to one, actually.
I don't think.
Wait, really?
I don't think so, no.
We gotta go to Mastro's.
What's your favorite food?
I think Italian food's my favorite food.
I make a good lasagna. Had I known you liked Italian, I would I think Italian food is my favorite food. I make a good lasagna.
Had I known you liked Italian, I would have made lasagna for you today.
I also make a good lasagna.
In my head.
Have you made it?
Yeah.
One time, or last year, I don't know if it was Thanksgiving or Christmas.
It was Christmas.
We decided to do, like, an Italian, like, Italian, American Italian themed, like, food.
So everyone made, like, an Italian dish, and I made lasagna, and it was delicious. No way. Oh, my God. I wish you had more Italian dish and I made lasagna and it was delicious.
No way.
Oh my God.
I wish you had more time.
We could cook lasagna right now.
We could do a lasagna cook up.
Okay.
I know you're like, I have to go look at apartments.
I'm like, oh man, I would have just done so many Korean fried cheese, lasagna.
I just love eating.
I was any other day.
Okay.
I'm like leaving tomorrow.
I'm like, no, you're not.
You said you were leaving.
You had an open ended ticket.
You're like, I'm staying here.
There's no home.
Yeah.
Well,
I don't know.
Do you have to go home?
I've been here for like a week and a half already.
Okay.
But you don't have responsibilities.
I mean,
you do,
but not like,
you don't have dogs or anything like that.
So you can just stay at Trevor.
Sometimes I get like,
I come here and I'm like,
I want to go home.
Really?
I'm also like moving here.
Oh,
so you're going to do two homes,
you think?
No.
God,
no.
Okay.
So you permanently will move here. I think it's the move. I love LA. I think it's fun. All your friends moving here. Oh, so you're going to do two homes, you think? No. God, no. Okay, so you permanently will move here.
I think it's the move.
I love LA.
I think it's fun.
All your friends are here.
That's what everyone's saying.
Yeah.
I'm like, whatever.
I would do it for like a year, and then I feel like if nothing changes, I'm moving back.
Do you think you'll audition and stuff out here?
Do you think you'll act and stuff?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know what the future holds.
You're not Raven.
I would be scared, yeah.
What if Raven asked you to be on Raven's Home?
Would you say yes
probably yeah
even though you don't watch it
and you don't like reboots
I would do it just because
I honestly do a lot of things
just because
yeah
yeah
because I don't
like I said
I don't have any like
interest
like I'm not like
I would love to do this
I'm just like
I would do it just because
that's crazy
I think that's great though
to have no
ambition I guess
is like a good thing.
I know.
My whole life I've been like that.
I love it.
Like zero ambition.
But that's good because you're making all this stuff happen.
You're not getting disappointed.
Yeah.
And you really are just like life is happening to you.
Yeah.
I think it's inspirational.
But the second it all starts going downhill, so will my mental psyche.
No, no.
I think you're only going to go up.
Like if you just let life happen, like life wants you to win, you know. So I think you're going to just keep winning in life. Hopefully. Which I think you're only going to go up. If you just let life happen, life wants you to win.
I think you're going to just keep winning in life.
Which I think is inspirational and motivational.
I see it for you.
I see your own TV show or something.
I literally don't have no clue where.
All your characters? We'll bring on Terry Jo.
We'll bring on Terry Jo very soon. If you're Terry Jo,
am I a character? Or am I going to be
Trish? Whatever you want to be.
Okay, I'm ready for this.
That's the beauty of it.
Christian girl takeover.
Do whatever you want to be, yeah.
And it's so funny
because I'm like,
if you throw like
references of the Bible
from me,
I'm like,
I just turned it
into something crazy
because I have no clue
about everything
from the Bible.
John 316?
It's on the cup
of In-N-Out.
Is that a R&B artist?
Ooh, that'd be a good one.
Okay, well, can we at least sing I Love You Jesus with Terry Jo?
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Is that from Winners? Ooh, or that
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All right, guys.
Keylon.
Next up, we have Terry Jo.
You may know her from TikTok Live or other bangers like I Love You Jesus.
She wrote that.
She wrote that.
So we'll bring out the star, Terry Jo.
All right.
My next guest is a Southern belle who raises hell on TikTok, Terry Jo.
Hey, how are you?
Hey.
I don't raise hell.
Hell is a place I don't want to associate myself with.
So can you cut that out?
Yeah.
I'm just kidding.
We're going to heaven only.
Exactly.
Okay, well.
Nothing about hell.
Miss Terry Jo, we've actually interacted.
Mrs. Terry Jo.
Oh, Mrs. Terry Jo.
I'm married to Jesus.
I love it.
How is he?
He's great.
I talked to him this morning. Talked to him on my way here.
It wasn't uber black, by the way. And Jesus was in the uber black? No, he wasn't in it. No,
because there was no uber black. I just expect someone of your Christian stature to
get the uber black. We got you a black sedan, I think. Did you? Did we? I hope. Let's ask the
audience. Did you vlog in the sedan? hope. Let's ask the audience.
Did you vlog in the sedan?
We had to get you VIP.
Is it not VIP?
Yeah.
Well, my Obama phone don't really work outside of my house.
What's Obama phone?
You know, whenever the government was giving out phones when Obama was in occupancy.
Okay.
We need Obama back to get more phones out for people. Well, we don't need him back in there, but whatever.
Did you vote for Obama? No, I didn't.
You vote for Jesus.
Well, obviously. I vote for Jesus every day of my life.
But in that election... Oh, I actually wasn't
old enough to vote in that election.
I'm only 21 years old. Oh, I thought
40 at least. Oh, I could have said
the same to you.
It's the Botox.
Yeah, where are you going to get it?
Or have you done that already? I did actually get some yesterday for reals are you gonna sue or we're talking about eggs
before you got on here okay would you ever give your eggs to someone in need um maybe yeah another
christian family that has been trying to have kids you know kids are a blessing so yeah jesus is with
everybody he sure is yeah he ain't with everybody clearly I see that you're moving your legs what happened to
the wheelchair what are you talking about you were just kicking your legs no I wasn't is this a
miracle maybe the Lord does miraculous things of course but I was moving my legs um what happened
to your legs if I may ask oh well, well, it's a long story, but
long story short, I was out
protesting against homosexuality
in the streets of New Orleans
and I got shot by a couple of
homosexuals in a pink G-Wagon.
In a pink G-Wagon? Yep.
I happen to know that you own one of those. Oh, I did,
but I don't anymore. It was not me.
You got it scrapped for metal
after you did a crime against me. I wonder what happened to it. You got it scrapped for metal after you did a crime against me.
I had never been
to New Orleans.
But you shouldn't be
protesting against
just natural love.
Maybe that's the reason.
Ain't nothing natural
about that shit.
Ain't nothing natural
about it.
Well, let's not protest
against Jesus as humans.
I think you look great.
This could be,
I guess you could put
this on wheels
if you want to be
wheeled out of here. I saw you walk in. Yeah. No, I didn't walk in here. I was actually carried in. This could be, I guess you could put this on wheels if you want to be wheeled out of here.
I saw you walk in.
Yeah.
No, I didn't walk in here.
I was actually carried in.
Oh, who carried you?
The Holy Ghost?
Maybe.
Who do you think weighs more, you or me?
Most likely you.
Do you think I would break your wheelchair if I sat in it?
Maybe, yeah, because it's kind of old.
The wheel's kind of old.
The wheel's a little rusty.
Well, you should upgrade because now you're bougie on TikTok lives.
Well, are you going to pay for it?
Maybe I could use a pink one like this.
I think that would be great.
I could heal you right now.
Heal.
Heal, Terry Jo.
Heal.
Let's see if you can kick your legs.
Go.
Oh, my gosh.
You ain't no Christian.
You ain't no real Christian. Because if I did that with somebody, it would have worked.
Well, we'll have to call Jesus for more.
I did see you kick your legs.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I think it could be either you're a liar or Jesus is a miracle worker.
I don't lie.
That's not a very Christian thing to do.
So then Jesus is a miracle worker.
I saw the legs.
Rewind the tape.
We'll show the legs kicking.
You can rewind it all you want.
You won't see no kicking legs.
If I want to kick my legs, your head will be off your shoulders right now.
Ooh. Sounds a little kinky.
Well, that's disgusting, but okay.
How high can you lift your legs?
I can't.
We'll see about that.
Keep an eye on Terry Jo's legs the rest of this interview, please.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Jesus doesn't like liars.
And I ain't never lied in my life.
Well, period.
Are you a natural blonde?
Yeah, I am, actually.
Okay, tell that to your roots.
Oh, well, it's a root spray because I have gray hair.
So thank you for pointing out my insecurity.
A period.
How do you convert people on TikTok doing the Lawrence work?
I'd like to think that I can convert people.
But on TikTok, it's a bit of a strange place, to be honest with you,
because most of the people on there are homosexual.
Oh, on TikTok.
Yeah.
But you're getting banned.
Exactly.
I don't think TikTok loves the Christians.
Yeah, interesting.
They don't love Jesus either.
I think TikTok could love Jesus, but maybe it's the way you're going about trying to convert people on TikTok.
I don't think so.
I think that's the only way to do it.
Right.
Do you know any other way? Yeah. Maybe you don't have to call them homosexuals. You could just call them people. Well, I don't think so. I think that's the only way to do it. Right. Do you know any other way?
Yeah.
Maybe you don't have to call them homosexuals.
You could just call them people.
Well, that's what they are.
Right.
Okay.
But maybe it's like...
I'm just calling a spade a spade.
But you know Jesus loves homosexuals.
Does he?
He does.
He loves everyone.
What Jesus do you...
Because that's not my Jesus.
Okay.
My Jesus don't love them.
I think maybe it's not Jesus.
He may love them.
He don't love the sin.
Oh, okay. Well, I sin too.
Well, speak for yourself.
He who is without sin cast the first stone.
Y'all got any rocks in here?
Because I'm about to cast the stone too.
Okay. Because I ain't never sinned
in my life. I ain't never done a sin.
I don't know about that. I've seen your TikTok
lives. Have you? Yes.
Well, what if I done that sin?
Collabbing with sinners. I saw a man
with his
fully, fully exposed. Why are you
looking there? I mean. Your sinful
mind. I ain't never seen that. I think
you did. I know
what you're talking about now. I ain't
ever seen nothing like that. But aren't we supposed
to love our sinners too? Um, we can
love the sinner, just not the sin.
Okay. Oh, I love that. Did you come up with that yourself? No, Jesus did. He taught me. love the sinner just not the sin okay oh i love that did you come
up with that yourself no jesus did he told me love the sinner not the sin exactly what's your
favorite thing about jesus um his pectorals oh right do you think that's how real jesus looked
of course why ain't that an accurate depiction of him i don't know he's from israel so they're
saying that it wouldn't look quite like his portrayal.
Well, that's what the Jesus
I know is the Jesus on my mantle at home.
Okay, so you have a male Jesus.
Good looking Jesus. He's a tall,
handsome man with green eyes
and shoulder-length brown hair.
Oh, I love that. I see Jesus in everyone.
I see Jesus could look like me, Jesus could look like you.
Touched by an angel. Maybe.
I think you and I kind of look alike.
So maybe that's what I'm thinking. Blonde hair,
blue eyes, beautiful
big breasts. I mean, we do look
similar. Mine's from Amazon. Where's yours
from? My mom made this for me, actually.
Okay. I thought you told me
Walmart earlier. Uh-uh. I don't know what you're
talking about. Okay. Mama made this for
you? Yeah. So your mom is in your life?
She is. She's the only one I have in my life.
My daddy died a few, like a year
back. Say a little prayer?
Nope. He's homosexual. He's burning in hell.
No. Well, we should say
a prayer. Our Father,
who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Yep. Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done. Yeah.
You don't know prayers, do you? Which is fine.
I was just stalling because I was trying to see if you knew it
Okay kingdom come
They will be done on earth as it is in heaven
Yeah that's correct
You did that I'm surprised
I didn't think that you could do it
Can you say a little prayer for this interview
Can we just pray together right now
Yeah of course
Go for it Terry Jo
Lord Jesus who art in heaven,
I pray that you bless this house
and all the sinners who live upon it
and in it and everything else
because, you know,
this girl ain't right in the head
and she ain't ever been right in the head
since the day she was born.
But I know that you have her in your heart
and your mind and your spirit.
You're guiding her and her husband and her child
to salvation.
And you need to do extra work with this right here because she ain't right.
She ain't right.
She ain't right.
And that's all right because I can tell that she's working on herself.
And I hope and pray that she gets that done because, honestly, at this point, I don't see no help for her.
Lord knows she's about 50 years
old. She's on her way out.
Anyways, amen.
Thank you.
Beautiful in certain parts. I'm not going to lie. I felt
the spirit with us. I was thinking the same thing when I
look at you. Beautiful in certain parts.
Oh my God, thank you. That might be the nicest thing you've ever
said to anyone. Yeah, very few parts.
Okay, I'll take it.
We have similar hair today. Yeah, well, mine's a bit longer than yours. Well, very few parts. Okay, I'll take it. We have similar hair today.
Yeah, well, mine's a bit longer
than yours. Well, mine's a bit more real
than yours. Yeah, a little dry.
Well, a little prettier.
Okay. I think the Lord
shined extra on me today. Okay.
I was thinking more stuff. I mean, you
have a bigger cross. I go sheen.
Sheen? No.
Sheen? Huh? What?
I don't know if Jesus loves the Sheehan.
Huh?
Jesus loves the Sheehan people too.
Even those influencers who went to Sheehan and lied.
Yeah.
We pray for them.
The clothing company?
Yeah.
Did you see that?
No.
You didn't see that?
I don't watch much television.
Well, TikTok.
Rocks your brain.
Same thing.
You're the TikTok star.
Yeah.
Well, I'm a Jesus star and a God warrior.
I love that you love Jesus.
He's my favorite man on the planet.
And you wrote I Love You Jesus when you were how old?
Huh?
You wrote I Love You Jesus when you were how old?
What?
Madonna said you had an angelic voice when you played your song, I Love You Jesus.
Yeah.
That's one of my favorite songs that I wrote.
And you wrote it when you were three?
Mm-hmm.
I'm very happy that that song got passed down to you when you sung that song, but clearly
that was my song first.
Yeah, you wrote it with a Crayola, I heard.
That's how.
A Crayola in my little notepad.
Yeah.
And so a three-year-old could have written that song, is what you're saying.
Yeah. A three-year-old did write that song. I did write that song, yeah.
Well, it's just like, it comes to me.
I mean, it comes to me when I'm just
talking about Jesus, you know? Okay.
It just flows straight through my heart,
out of my mouth. Wow.
He's with you from the start because he's always in your heart.
Exactly. Though I strayed
far, though you strayed far.
Though you strayed far. I ain't ever strayed far from Jesus
Here we are
Jesus my superstar
I love you Jesus
I love you Jesus
You give me reason
You give me hope
And Jesus never let me go
You can act bad
Or you can be good
You can be from privilege
Or straight from the hood
What gave you inspiration for that line?
Well, there's a lot of color people who live in my neighborhood
And I know they travel from the ghetto to my church.
So I said, you can be from the privilege, you can be straight from the hood.
Yeah, we all love Jesus.
Everyone's welcome in the house of Jesus.
That is so true.
Yeah.
And Jesus loves everybody.
He doesn't care if you come for money, no money.
He loves everyone.
He doesn't care if you're eating fried chicken or watermelon.
Or if you're a hooker, Mary Magdalene.
Well, that's a little bit different.
I'm Mary Magdalene.
I walked with Jesus. Well, she wasn't a hooker mary magdalene well that's a little bit different i'm mary magdalene walk with jesus well she wasn't a hooker what was she she was a good christian
woman if she was walking with jesus she was a hooker you may have think that because you read
the scripture wrong but that's not what it means what section of the bible was it missed it um
leviticus leviticus yeah in my bible it is so that's it's the old testament you probably have
the new testament but well jesus is in the new testament so you're also old testament i love that
yeah okay i'm very old school with everything i do i love it yes i'm married to a moses who was
in the old testament so you know about moses yeah i know all about him do you think he knew jesus
of course he did okay he knew him in his heart.
Before Jesus was even born was Moses.
He knew it in his heart that Jesus would be there.
Right.
Yeah.
So Jesus is a person or is he a fictional heart?
He's a benevolent being.
Okay.
Yeah.
He may take the form of a person, but he's everywhere.
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Handcrafted cold foam topped with toasted cookie crumble.
It's a sweet summer twist on iced coffee.
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How did Jesus make you so perfect?
I think when I was born, he shed a tear. He wept for all the homosexuals and sinners out there in the world.
And that tear
fell into my mama's vagina. Okay.
And I became pregnant. And here I
am. Wow.
I think that's how it happened. So
would you, if there was a tear that fell into
yours, do you think you would give
birth to the second coming?
No, I'd probably be coming. Oh.
But that's not
the here nor there, you know what I mean? Well, I saw you doing poppers be coming. Oh. But that's not the here nor there thing, you know what I mean?
Well, I saw you doing poppers with Madonna.
Yeah, well, I ain't do nothing.
That was her.
Madonna was doing poppers.
And what do you think about that?
I don't do drugs.
I know she's a recovering Christian.
Recovering Christian.
Yeah, because she's trying to get back on her Christian stroll, but she's probably got
a little bit of sin in her.
Maybe.
She had some burning crosses in a music video.
I don't like that.
Right.
Maybe more artistry than actual whatever.
I don't like that kind of art.
I don't either.
We just like I Love You Jesus songs.
Exactly.
We got to lift our Lord up.
Do you have any other songs coming out?
Any Christian songs?
No, not right now.
Not that I can speak about it, actually, because it's real hush-hush.
I got some more Christian songs.
I actually did the cover of I Love You Jesus.
Yeah. Yeah. I know. Okay Christian songs. I actually did the cover of I Love You, Jesus. Yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
Okay.
And I'm just happy for you.
What'd you think about it?
I thought I could have sung it better, but, you know, at the moment I was tired into,
like, a contractual deal, so I couldn't sing the song myself.
So I had to pass the song along, and I said who was better than someone who looks just
like me.
We do look very similar.
Very similar.
You're even heavier than me, but. Oh, wow. I know i'm like 230 yeah i'm only 120 so yeah okay skinny
legend yeah 120 i actually probably 118 because i haven't been eating because for the last two
days i've been here and the food here ain't right right yeah it is not right ain't right at all because you're from where bontown louisiana louisiana what do you eat down there ham hock turkey necks pig feet what
currant bread all kinds of shit oh my god no beignets or anything like that um i can't eat
beignets why two color for me two what yeah colors okay yeah you know it's a lot of colored
folk who love those so okay i just they in my own way you know, it's a lot of colored folk who love those. Okay.
I just, they, in my own way, you know.
Right, for sure.
Unseasoned chicken. I love a bun game.
Yeah.
I think they're delicious.
No, that's called cultural appropriation.
So, you should probably put that down.
Maybe, actually, you should really put those down.
Oh, my stomach is flat, okay?
My stomach is flat.
My ass is fat.
That's the only thing that's fat on me.
How about you?
I saw a pancake back there.
But I love pancakes. I love pancakes. Honestly's the only thing that's fat on me. How about you? I saw a pancake back there. But I love pancakes.
I love pancakes.
Honestly, the same.
With syrup?
I eat mine.
We call them hotcakes in Louisiana.
Oh, I love a hotcake.
Okay, McDonald's.
Hotcakes.
Oh, hotcakes.
Yeah, hotcakes.
Okay.
That's when you cook the pancake in bacon grease.
No way.
Is that real?
Because honestly, that sounds like a vibe.
They're delicious.
I love bacon. I love it. Because honestly that sounds like a vibe. They're delicious. I love bacon.
I love it.
Isn't that cannibalism?
You should probably put those down.
I eat my own, okay?
No discrimination here.
I don't really eat pork because that's a natural animal.
Maybe you're a little Jewish too
because Jewish people don't eat pork.
And you like the Old Testament.
Pigs are man-made, so.
Interesting, never heard that.
Jesus ain't make no P.S.
I think Jesus made everyone in this world.
He didn't.
Nope, he didn't make homosexuals.
They made themselves.
We love the homosexuals, though.
I don't think so.
We're in L.A.
Mm-mm.
This is the land of the devil.
Do you know Keelan?
Who?
Keelan.
Never heard of him, no.
Okay.
He's a pretty good TikTok live person, never. Never heard of him. Okay. He's a pretty good TikTok live person.
Never.
Never heard of him.
Okay.
Not in the slightest.
Okay.
But you know Georgia Peach, of course, because she's your cousin.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
This is who I'm staying with.
Georgia Peach.
Yeah.
I wish she was here today, but two books.
She said she didn't want to come here.
Oh.
Why?
She said she's scared of you.
I think she copied me.
She also, yeah, in a pink penthouse, singing freaky.
She says she's more rich than you, so.
Oh, I don't know.
She also said that you stole her music as well, so that's kind of crazy.
I'm pretty sure it's still mine.
Yeah.
Freak, freak, freak to get, freak to get.
We'll let the lawyers handle that.
Okay.
Does she love Jesus, too?
I don't think so, no.
She's a whore.
Okay.
Yeah.
But Jesus loves whores, whereas we got back to Mary Magdalene. No, you don't. And what about Amethyst? Do you know her? I don't think so. No, she's a whore. Okay. Yeah. But Jesus loves whores. We got back to Mary Magdalene.
No, you don't.
And what about Amethyst?
Do you know her?
I don't speak about her.
Okay.
Because she's also into vampires.
She's a demon, devil, gargoyle, and I don't like to talk about people like that.
You don't like the gargoyles?
No, I do not.
I heard you like True Blood.
What's that?
Oh, Keelan likes True Blood.
Terry Jo does not.
You don't like True Blood?
Who's Keelan?
I mean, they have True Blood at the stores, but I ain't never, uh-huh, I'm lying.
At the stores?
Yeah.
What stores are you shopping at?
Well, they're at convenience stores.
Ever since vampires came out the coffin, it's like they have to get some sustenance somewhere.
Do you think the vampires are also a part of the devil?
Of course.
They're demons themselves that walk upon us.
Demons do walk upon us.
Yeah, that's why I keep the silver on my neck.
Same.
The cross, we vanish.
It wargs them all.
Right.
I also have mace in my pocket, but it's full of silver.
Wait, what?
Silver?
It's kind of heavy then.
It's like infused, infused like mace and silver.
Okay, the Lord has blessed you.
Keeps the vampires away, yeah.
Yeah, the vampires will come for you for sure.
Yeah. Who's the last demon you saw?
The last demon I saw?
Jeffree Star
You go live with him once or twice
It's the worst thing I've ever done
And how do you cleanse yourself after?
I have to bathe in holy water
Right after that
And like a hot bath of holy water
You know I don't really shower that often
Same it's just a lot of work
way too much especially when you got i was about to say so much body but i'm so tiny so
yeah it ain't really much to watch when i get in there yeah i don't think like the people who
walked with jesus probably they didn't shower back then because they were hungry they had no
food they're all tiny like me oh my god yeah you have the same same Jesus diet. I really am in Jesus likeness.
I may not be a man or nothing.
Right. Not a man.
Not at all. You go by what
pronouns? I don't think pronouns are real.
I think gay people made those up
to be honest with you. So we're just beings.
God made man and woman.
I don't know what no pronouns
are. We don't know for sure Adam and Eve.
We don't know the genitals they had. We don't know for sure Adam and Eve. We don't know the genitals they have.
We don't know for sure what they were.
I know.
You know.
God told me.
Okay.
What part of the Bible are they in?
The beginning.
Okay.
Maybe Genesis then.
In the beginning.
I don't know what they have in your Bible, but you know.
Not familiar?
Yeah.
Okay.
You and I probably have different Bibles.
I did I Love You Jesus.
I actually wrote a follow-up song called I Love You Moses.
Have you heard that song?
Yeah, I have. Okay. Not as good as I Love You Jesus. Oh, you're not song called I Love You Moses have you heard that song? Yeah I have
not as good as I Love You Jesus
oh you're not a Moses fan you like Jesus more than Moses
what about Joseph?
you don't like his dream co?
only Jesus this only man for me
sorry you don't like any of the other
characters in the bible? characters?
those ain't characters those are people
that's how I know you ain't no real Christian
well okay but you don't like
so what about Joseph Jesusph jesus's father his physical yeah well
that's not that's nothing to do with me virgin mary jesus's father you don't like saint peter
okay saint christopher never heard of him okay so you just like jesus yeah all right i think okay
i love that i'm a jesus freak what can i say. Maybe we should do I love you Jesus meets freaky.
Freak, freak, freak for Jesus.
Freak, freak, freak, freak Jesus.
No, thank you.
It's a little too sinful for me.
I like the lyrics I wrote originally.
Okay.
You did write a bop.
Uh-huh.
Can you improv a new Jesus song for us all?
Because Christian music needs a revival.
Right now,
if I was to do that,
it would like,
ooh.
Can you pray on it?
Yeah.
Lord Jesus,
please give Terry Jo
your words and your wisdom
through song.
The thing is,
I don't want to put that
kind of stuff out on the internet
unless it was coming from me
because people might steal it
like when you stole my song.
Okay,
but if you're the originator, I should owe you money. Maybe I should write you a check. You do owe me money. might steal it, like, when you stole my song. Okay, but you're the originator.
I should owe you money.
Maybe I should write you a check.
You do owe me money.
That's why I was going to invoice you after this.
Because I need my money.
I need my checks.
I made a good money off that.
But I'm sure you did, too.
I didn't make nothing.
Right, because you were three.
Exactly.
I stole it from you.
Yeah.
Who steals from children?
That's weird.
Right.
Well, you're an adult now, so.
Now.
Right.
When I was three, that makes you what?
63.
That's your life.
How old do you think I am?
From the looks of it, 63.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, I know Jesus.
That's all that matters, right?
Any age.
Do you?
I do.
You just said characters in a book.
This ain't no story time.
I didn't say characters.
I said characters.
You did.
Okay.
Well, I look at them as characters, as people, as other beings. Of course you would. You're never a book. This ain't no story time. Did I say characters? You did. Okay. Well, I look at them as characters,
as people, as other beings.
Of course you would. You're never a Christian.
What's your favorite part about being a Christian?
Just spreading
Christianity and spreading my life. I mean,
spreading the word of
Jesus, honestly, because I feel like the world
needs more of that. Okay. And are you thinking about
getting married? Of course.
I've been trying to get married since I was 14.
14?
I didn't find a good Christian man to do it, though.
That's good.
I think you should be over 18, which you are now.
Yeah.
So you'll find a nice Christian.
Well, most people in Bontemps get married at 15, so.
And from where?
Bontemps.
Oh, Bontemps, Louisiana.
Yeah, Bontemps, Louisiana.
Okay.
Where is that?
Is that close to New Orleans?
It's like 40 minutes outside of Shreveport.
Shreveport.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wow. Britney Spears is from Louisiana as well. I know. You know her? It's like 40 minutes outside of Shreveport. Shreveport. Okay. Wow.
Britney Spears is from Louisiana as well.
I know.
You know her?
She's actually my second cousin.
I don't like to speak about that much because people think I'm clout chasing or something,
but she is my second cousin twice from me.
Wow.
But maybe now you're more popular than her, so maybe she'll be clout chasing you.
Can you sing a little Britney?
Do you know any of her songs?
I don't know any of her songs, no.
No.
Too much.
That's the devil's music.
No.
Not Britney.
The devil's music. Who That's the devil's music. No, not Britney. The devil's music.
Who's actually the devil's music?
Almost everybody, honestly.
If it ain't Christian, it ain't country, it's the devil's music.
Well, country is a little.
Country is just about heart and soul.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think country might be more offensive than.
Yeah, you would.
Yeah.
Because you ain't no real Christian.
I'm down for some country.
I'm down for some country.
You just said it was horrible.
Well, I think they may be a little devilish
because they try to segregate people too.
They don't love the gay community sometimes.
What's wrong with that?
We love them.
We know we do.
You love them.
Jesus.
I don't know who we is.
I think we're very similar
but different in Christianity for sure. Very much so. Because I'm a real Christian and she ain't. I don't know who we is. I think we're very similar, but different in Christianity, for sure.
Very much so, because I'm a real Christian, and she ain't, so.
I'm a real Christian.
I don't think so.
Oh, I appreciate all religions.
I don't like to identify myself as one, but I do love Jesus, but I love all the entities.
Yeah.
Who's your favorite Christian vloggers out there?
Christian vlogger, me.
Okay, you vlog.
Yeah.
Okay, I thought you were just.
All the time.
Yeah, I post. I don't really post much, but I am a vlogger, yeah. You are a vlogger. Okay, what do you vlog yeah okay yeah i post i don't really post much but i am a vlogger you are a
vlogger okay what do you vlog i haven't seen this uh just a day in the life of a christian woman
and what's a day in the life of a christian woman waking up in the morning saying my prayers
drinking a bottle of holy water showering once a month um yeah when i't do that, I do a couple Hail Marys. Hail Mary,
full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
A little rosary?
Holy Mary, Mother of God.
I'm not a Catholic, but sure.
Rosary is Catholic.
Yeah, I know.
I'm confusing the religions right now.
You're non-denominational, maybe.
Catholic's hardcore. They're maybe too hardcore
for Jesus, maybe. And then I go to church
at 4 a.m.
Get out of church at 3 p.m.
Go to work. Get off work.
Pray to someone. Where do you work?
I go to wash. I know it's not ladylike
to have a job, but I haven't found a husband yet.
I love that. Okay, hardworking woman.
Love that. Congrats. I haven't found myself a husband yet.
So it's kind of hard for me to like, I have to pay bills, you know, because mama can't work because she's big as hell. Oh, okay, a hardworking woman. Love that. I haven't found myself a husband yet, so it's kind of hard for me to, like, I have to pay
bills, you know, because Mama can't work because she's big as hell.
Oh, okay.
Okay, I love that for her.
She's got thyroids in her ankles.
Thyroids in her ankles.
Oh, my God.
This is why we have children.
So then one day I'll be as big as a house, and then I won't be able to work either.
I think that day has come.
I think I'm getting there though
I'm working on my core
I pray
I just pray to be skinny
that's and it's not working yet
so I'm still
my faith in Jesus
is shaken sometimes
because I'm like
I'm still fat Jesus
what happened
I prayed and
I'm still fat
he can't heal all that
that's you
he may be able to
put you on the earth
and get you together
but he can't
he can't heal gluttony
wait you don't
right I've sinned that's. Okay, what's your deadly
sin? I don't have none. I don't sin.
I told you that I never sin today in my life.
Not lust? Never.
Really? Maybe a little bit of envy. I'm sure
you're envious of me right here. Oh, no.
I don't have nothing to be envious about.
I have my own show. The Lord gave me my show.
You're on my show.
I am not on your show. I'm on Jesus'
show. This is Jesus' playing field. I'm on Jesus' show.
This is Jesus' playing field and I'm
just a quarterback.
Okay. I'm more of a linebacker
honestly. By the build, yeah.
Linebackers
do more than the quarterback. I'm like a water
boy. Because you don't really play the
game of Christianity.
You're on the bench. That's a little below the belt.
Can you see below your belt?
Can you see below your belt? I'm not wearing
one. It's not very woman-like.
Yeah, I wouldn't wear a belt.
What's next for Terry Jo?
World domination.
Really? Because I heard Terry Jo's kind of like maybe
not a thing anymore. Gonna be
disappearing off TikTok. Maybe, who knows?
And where would you disappear to? Heaven. Oh, well. I think you maybe just get off of TikTok. You're going to be disappearing off TikTok. Maybe. Who knows? And where would you disappear to?
Heaven.
Oh, well.
I think you maybe just get off of TikTok.
You don't need to go to heaven necessarily.
That's where I'm trying to go.
Ain't that where we're all trying to go?
That's where we're all trying to go.
Exactly.
But why TikTok?
Why TikTok for you?
I just felt like that was the devil's playground on the internet.
You're the light there.
A bunch of homosexuals, a bunch of colored people.
So I had to go and bring Jesus to that okay well there's probably other things besides that on
there that makes it a little more devilish it's more maybe like you know greed or something of
people on there those are the sins well that's everywhere right yeah so you maybe should be
fighting those sins I'm fighting them all okay we love that Christians against sin I mean I think
everyone's against it but we're all sinners at the end of the day.
I think even pre-sin.
Yeah.
I think we all do.
Not me.
Well, teach us your ways.
I think that's what we all want to inform you.
Well, ain't no way I could teach you that.
You have to find that within.
Because it's about self-control.
You shine.
Your light just shines and radiates.
Which TikTokers are the most holy to you that you think God really shined on them?
Ain't a single one.
Not a single one. Ain't a single one. Not a single one.
Ain't a single one.
I haven't yet come across a Christian.
Really?
Oh, you know what?
Murphy Marie.
Murphy Marie.
Murphy Marie.
Who's Murphy Marie?
It's a good Christian woman that I met recently online.
I love the name Murphy Marie.
Murphy Marie is great.
I don't know who this is, but I will look it up.
Maybe you shouldn't.
Who's the most that needs the Lord's help the most on TikTok?
Almost everyone, but let me try to think of one.
Just in the right direction.
Who do you think could be steered the right way?
Who should get a redemption?
A redemption?
No one.
I don't think anyone on that app deserves a redemption.
I can't really think of one.
No?
The person that comes to mind is obviously Jeffree Star Because that's like the devil incarnate
So yeah
I think Jeffree has some light in him
He's taking care of all those yaks
Darkness darkness darkness
He's slaughtering those yaks
Probably and selling them for fur and stuff
You don't eat meat
No I actually love meat I'm lying Ashley
God put animals on the earth to eat
Well there you go
So someone has to take care of these animals
and make them... He ain't taking care of them.
They're starving. They're starving
just like him. I'm starving right now. I can't even focus.
I'm so hungry.
I can't tell.
I just love...
I would just love maybe like a holy way
for some holy water. Do you do communion?
I love communion. You partake in it?
Maybe a little bit too much. Sometimes I get a little tipsy off that communion.
The body and blood of Christ.
Yeah.
Interesting.
It's Jesus, so it's fine.
Right.
What do you like better, the body or the blood?
The blood.
Yeah.
A little tipsy moment.
I ain't a vampire, but.
That's amethyst.
Yeah.
What about Amora?
Do you know her?
Yeah.
I don't really speak to her either because I don't like non-Americans, but.
Are they sinners?
I wouldn't say they're a sinner.
They're just a loser or something because you ain't American, so...
Why are you in America or talking about America, you know what I mean?
Yeah, well...
America is just a blessed place to live.
Well, I don't know.
Maybe the Vatican would be more blessed if, like, go to Italy or Mexico or...
Yeah, those are fake places.
Those are fake houses of the Lord.
What?
The only real house of the Lord down here in the South real houses of the Lord are down here in the South.
I don't know.
Oh, in the South.
In the South, yeah.
Have you seen him appear to you?
Every night, every morning, every evening.
He's in this room right now.
I feel it.
Not near you.
He's back here by me.
I have like repentance.
Repentance.
Repellent.
You should be repentant.
When do you think is Judgment Day?ant. When do you think is judgment day?
Huh?
When do you think is the judgment day?
When are we all being relinquished?
I think it's upon us.
I don't know the day.
The rapture.
Yeah.
But I think it is upon us real soon.
Okay.
So everyone should repent.
Yeah, of course.
How do we do it?
Because I have sinned a lot.
Basically, I just say pray every night, almost every day.
Every day, actually.
Three times a day for you specifically.
Just get on your knees and pray.
Yeah, just get on your knees and pray.
Just pray to him and hopefully he will hear you pass out like crunchy hair.
What's my biggest sin that I should be repenting for?
Your music career.
Oh, that's not bad.
I'll take it.
It's all stolen from me and my cousin.
Oh, okay.
Two songs.
Yeah.
Freaky, I Love You, Jesus.
No.
The rest of them, too.
She said she wrote the rest as well.
Wow.
Can I tell you for real?
I really do think that I Love You, Jesus, I've made more money ever on that in the last
year than I have ever had in the past 10 years.
You owe me money.
I know.
Because you showed Madonna and it became this viral thing.
So thank you for making my song viral in all sincerity.
Thank you for stealing my music.
Thank you for spreading the word of Jesus, actually.
We'll just say that, because I wrote it so.
For everyone.
So we're even.
Exactly.
Favorite Jesus movie.
In the eyes of the Lord.
Favorite Jesus movie?
The Land Before Time.
Never saw it.
Yeah, Land Before Time is actually about Jesus.
People think it's just about dinosaurs, but the whole thing is about Jesus. The Land Before Time. Never saw it. Yeah. Land Before Time is actually about Jesus. People think it's just about dinosaurs, but the whole thing is about Jesus.
The Land Before Time.
I have to check that one out.
I haven't seen it.
You should check it out.
Have you ever seen God's Not Dead?
No, I haven't.
Really?
I don't see any, like, recent stuff.
Okay.
Just elders.
You don't know the song?
God's not dead.
He's surely alive.
There's a whole Christian rock, like, genre you should get into.
I don't acknowledge rock. It's not right. Ain't no whole Christian rock genre you should get into. I don't acknowledge rock.
It's not right. I know such thing as
Christian rock. Christian rock.
They're spreading the word of the Lord, so we have to
do it. No, they're spreading negativity and hate
and sinfulness. Okay, if you could
tell Jesus one thing right now, just like
in all sincerity, you want him to
know something right now in this moment, what would you tell him?
Trisha don't smell too great.
Maybe you should
bestow her upon a
bar set.
I'm sweaty. I think he
needs to just, you know. Well, pigs do sweat.
So.
Is that a noise they make?
Yeah. What animal are you?
Maybe an elephant.
That is not the sound they make.
That's here an elephant.
I don't know how.
I don't think that's the sound they make.
More like...
That's like a car.
That sounded so good.
Your voice got deep.
You know those older cars?
Those older cars with those little acts.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That was...
Alright, one final note.
Everyone that's on social media, you said
our sinners, basically, right? Huh?
Everyone's a sinner on social media.
What?
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, mostly
everybody, honestly. I don't know.
I would like to think they're all Christians, but I know most people are sinners Okay. Yeah, mostly everybody, honestly. I don't know. Okay, not everybody.
I would like to think they're all Christians, but I know most people are sinners and stuff like that.
What do you think about, like, Cole and Savannah?
Do you know them?
Christian bloggers?
Mm-mm.
They have a whole family.
Never met them.
They did the abortion documentary about how it's wrong.
They're giving the Duggar family.
What do you think of the Duggar family?
Sick individuals.
Why thought they're Christian?
Yeah.
God may have said the children are the future.
He didn't say have 25,000.
Right.
And collect government assistance.
He didn't say do any of that.
Well, we don't know.
They're not collecting government assistance.
I know what they were doing.
What about Nick Cannon?
He's spreading his seed, as the Bible says.
He's spreading his seed too far and too wide.
Would you have a baby with him?
Absolutely not.
He's a colored man. He's a colored man. I'm not mixing my... He's Christian. He's a colored man too far and too wide Would you have a baby with him? Absolutely not He's a colored man
He's a colored man
I'm not mixing my
He's Christian
He's a colored man
Oh my gosh
I'm going to get canceled
I can't do that
Pray
Why?
I just
Okay
Yeah
I love Nick Cannon
I would love to have him on the podcast
Speaks to your character
Oh my gosh
I'm going to get canceled
Okay Let's pray
Let's do one final prayer for everyone watching
You did it so great at the beginning
Can we do one closing prayer
Mine too
Let's pray for all the people watching
Lord Jesus
I hope and pray that this house
Doesn't come down upon me right now
Because I know it's full of sin and stuff like that. I know the world is full
of sin actually and I know that
you're working hard and diligently and so
am I to rid the world of that kind
of destruction and turmoil
and stuff like that and
I'm just praying that somehow
that does come to fruition even
though it's going to be hard as hell because
everybody here loves to suck
and fuck on anybody they want to suck and fuck on
and you just do random shit, you know what I mean?
Drugs and stuff like that, but
you know, I have faith that it will
turn out the way it's supposed to and
I love you and I know that you love
all the people that you have created and not
the sin that they are doing,
but I'm praying
and I'm hoping that
it will turn around.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
And one final.
There was a time I overdosed.
Not by the ambulance.
But by the Holy Ghost.
That harmony wasn't right.
That was it. We did it. That was it.
We did it.
We nailed it.
Give us a Christian Network talk show.
Watch out, Tammy Faye and Jim Baker.
Don't know who those people are.
Oh my God, they are the most Christian of all Christians.
Ain't nobody more Christian than us.
Maybe we'll do a talk show together one day.
Terry Jo and Trisha K.
And Trisha Ho.
That's so cute, Trisha Ho.
Christian Networks, call us.
Find Terry Joe on TikTok Live.
Converting sinners into Jesus lovers one by one. Doing the Lord's
work, my lady. I love you,
Jesus.
That was it. That's it.
That's the wrap.
I love it. That's actually so good.
Oh my gosh, that was hard.