Just Trish - Reacting to Colleen Ballinger’s SHOCKING Vanity Fair Article

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

Trisha reacts to the mind-boggling Vanity Fair article defending Colleen Ballinger—and spills some shocking tea about her former cohost. Plus, Trish gives her take on the viral video pointing out Ariana Grande’s history of seemingly breaking up relationships, as well as Doja Cat’s sudden cancellation.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TV news and music, TV news. It's Trisha, Just Trish, and Oscar, and Moses too. Hi guys, welcome back to Just Trish. It's a podcast for now, but we're manifesting a TV show. I was just telling Oscar, I want to do this every single day. Like, it's actually so much fun. I'm so shook that people watch this. Like, you guys know I'm in a flop era right now.

Like, everything I do seems to flop. I've done like five podcasts that like have flop, flop, flop. And I was shocked. I was shocked people cared and watched it. And I'm very excited very exciting on the flop channel everyone's like it should be Trish Talks if you guys look at the past videos on this channel I've done a Trish Talks I've done I have like all the Trish puns and a lot of people tell you not to put your name in a title they're like no don't but I just I just love Trish everything I love branding Trish I mean again like would you wear a shirt that says just Trish it's like I would would you wear one oh you

know I would I still wear my uh Trisha Paytas heartbreak tour merch all the time no way did you get it when you came because we did an interview at the tour which is like I was I was in my skinny era then but is that when you got it or did you have a show no but we did your rehearsals and then you literally just like come to my car I have shirt and then you went through a box in your car and you said here take a shirt I'm the modern day Angeline. Here's a shirt out of my trunk. I would love to get Angeline on the show. I think she could be a get, don't you think? She literally lives off my exit. We see her pink Corvette

all the time. I would love Angeline. I also would really love The Weeknd. Abel? Abel. Oh, is he not The Weeknd anymore? No. He rebranded to just Abel, actually. No way. No, but he still goes by The Weeknd on Instagram. I think if he's acting, producing, I think he Weeknd on Instagram. I think if he's acting producing I think he's Abel and I think

if he's music he's The Weeknd. I felt like The Weeknd today. I just feel like his energy and his vibes they were playing songs for me in the glam today they were like showing me songs like he did with like Ariana Grande and stuff like that and I was like how have I never heard of him before The Idol and I'm obsessed with him. You live in a weird

Trish bubble that's for sure. You live in a weird Trish bubble. That's for sure. Like you've hardly heard a Taylor Swift song. I know. You don't know who Doja Cat is. It's very. We were briefing a little bit beforehand and you're like Doja Cat and you're telling me how many followers she had.

And I was like, I think we talked about this recently because I was like, I don't know a Doja Cat song. So then I was like, you heard it on TikTok. So you play me the TikTok songs. I was like, okay, but it was a say so. Why don't you say so? That's Doja Cat. I couldn't – I wouldn't have been able to tell you what she looked like or anything

like that. I know she was a cat at the Met Gala. Like I know that was a good thing. But The Weeknd, like I literally just knew he dated Selena Gomez and I didn't know. But I'm in my Weeknd era – Able era. What are we in? Able era. Right?

But then I was like, oh, I could – I literally tweeted him because I was like, oh, can you come on my podcast? Like whatever. I tweeted him like last week. And then I just didn't oh, I could – I literally tweeted him because I was like, oh, can you come on my podcast? Like whatever. I tweeted him like last week. And then I just didn't realize like how popular he was. Like he literally tweeted that he sold out like more shows than Michael Jackson or something. And I was like, that's crazy. He's done the Super Bowl.

He's very, very popular. What year? It was a couple years ago. The Weeknd did the Super Bowl? Yes. It was maybe two or three years ago. Yeah. Was it everything?

Was it a hit? You see, I'm mostly like a pop girl right same yeah but the weekend is a little pop no he's a little pop yeah he sounds like michael jackson ariana grande song i heard is like oh it sounds like michael jackson i like when he collabs with ari but you know i'm more i pretty much exclusively listen to taylor swift and olivia rodrigo and he has not collabed with her neither really speaking of it turns out that there's a study of college kids that shows the kids with the highest GPA listen to Taylor Swift the most.

But also right under was The Weeknd. No. Yeah. No! That's usually a let off with Wait, what? Yeah, so I think we're smarter than we think. That's actually crazy. Yeah. That's crazy because I'm a new Weekender, you know what I mean? Like, that's so weird. Those. That's crazy because I'm a new weekender. You know what I mean?

Like, that's so weird. Those two were the top two? I think it was like Taylor Swift, SZA, but in the weekend. But it was very close. Who's SZA? You don't know who SZA? No. I just killed my ex.

Oh, I know from TikTok. And then, need a big boy. I need a big, you know that TikTok song? Yes. Okay. I was thinking a TikTok song. If you get popular on TikTok, then you're popular. Yeah.

That's what – I had to explain TikTok sounds. Yeah. I love those. I know all the sounds on TikTok for sure. So those are like the top three. Random. I wonder what the correlation between those three are. I know.

Well, it was mostly men that are listening to The Weeknd and mostly females that are listening to Taylor Swift and SZA. Yeah. Oh. Why would I think – I would feel like he But he's also big he's big in both but he was number one in men

and then like number two or three in women. No way. But overall two or three. Yeah, I guess I want to know what kind of music men listen to. Yeah. Like Moses listens to Kate Bush.

Yeah, I don't think Kate Bush was on that but I probably I think if they did like adults I feel like smart adults probably listen to Kate Bush. Who do you listen to? the fact that you know Kate Bush I didn't even know who she was when I met him

yeah Stranger Things well that's what became big he was like a Kate Bush fan before Stranger Things I could see him collaborating with Taylor Swift I don't know anything about it I just really love the idol you guys I hated the idol slander that was my show I hope it comes back can you please watch it

can you please watch it so we have something to bond over I'll go back and watch it for you I have enough reasons to you Troy Jenny yes Lily Rose oh like Abel well I love him I don't know why I feel like anyone who kind of like similar like looks like me I like I think I'm like oh you know what I could be I could be like anybody I see myself oh I did forget that you you the comparisons between you yes I feel like a lot of people think we like look alike and so I I heard that like even anybody I see myself in – Oh, I did forget that you – the comparisons between you and – Yes. I feel like a lot of people think we like look alike. And so I heard that like even before I knew who like The Weeknd was. Like people had told me and I was like, oh, really?

Like I didn't know who it was. And then when I was – I was like, oh, we have the same vibes kind of. And when I got dressed this morning, like literally I've been singing it. Like you guys heard me. I've been singing it like, I can't feel my face. That's like the only one I know. Because I looked him up on Wikipedia. Apparently he had a substance abuse problem like ketamine.

So I'm like maybe he wrote the song I Can't Feel My Face With You when he was like on ketamine. Because that's how I feel. You can't he had a substance abuse problem like ketamine. So I'm like, maybe he wrote the song, I Can't Feel My Face With You when he was like on ketamine. Because that's how I feel. You can't feel your face when you're on ketamine. It was on his Wikipedia. So don't come for me. Because I was just like, I'm fascinated by him. I get on these obsessions.

How do you feel about my obsessions, babe? Do you think it's like weird? Like when I get obsessed with guys? Because I think it's kind of weird. I would be weirded if you're like, I'm obsessed with Ariana Grande. Like, why? No, but that's, I mean, that's really what people don't know. That's what creates the flow of creativity that is Trish.

Oh. Is the. My obsessions. One obsession to the next, to the next. And it's obsession becomes a project. Interesting. It becomes a role play. Yeah, I love when you hyper fixate on something.

I'm similar-ish, but I have very specific ones. But you will hop all over and with no reference as far as timeliness or anything at all like it's very surreal your twilight one mental i've always loved twilight so when all of a sudden you were into a twi hard i lived for that yeah we could probably get uh taylor wottner because he has a podcast now ashley green i feel like it's awesome who's actually green she was the one with the little bob little pixie cut. Okay, yes.

Love her. Is she doing stuff now? I think she does a podcast too or she did do a podcast. Love that. But not Robert Pattinson. He's very anti-Twilight. Everything I see, he's like, hates Twilight. During the Batman, like, press run, it was during the Twilight Renaissance and he was

having some good laughs about it. Same with Kristen Stewart. I think they've come around and see the appreciation for it now. They embrace it. Yeah. I like when people embrace stuff. I hate when people are like, I don't want to talk about this. I don't want to talk about appreciation for it now. They embrace it. Yeah. I like when people embrace stuff. I hate when people are like, I don't want to talk about this. I don't want to talk about that.

It's like embrace it. Like Twilight was like iconic. Same with Hunger Games. Like another franchise that had a fundamental part in my – I think we're like – this is where the age gap comes in. Like we're only five years apart. But this is why I tell people like it's like hard for me to date people younger because it's like Hunger Games. Like I don't get it.

I saw the first one. I'm like I don't get it. my god like what's what is what's the meaning behind it like what's the purpose why are you feeling some type of way about the hunger there is some you know i love a fierce girl getting stuff done okay and i think the fact that she you know she was against all odds she was the underdog she was fighting for her sister she was put in this love triangle but really it was about her survival and she was serving looks in the capital it has a little bit of i don't know about the looks i don't think serving looks sorry oh my god i'm all about glam but like that braid

her dress when she spun around and she caught on fire that was iconic yeah you're such a feminist i honestly i think i'm yeah i think especially-Barbie world. I feel like this is the category of today's conversation because, okay, on one hand, I'm so with you. Like Barbie movie, love. But do you have Snow White? Okay, I have no cards, by the way. I did notes too today. I was prepared, you guys, because everyone's like, Oscar's doing all the work, which is very true. He is very beneficial to this podcast. But I was like, oh, I have some topics. So look at my Trish cards. Just Trish, just Trish. And instead of hot takes, we're doing Trish takes, Trish takes. We're just doing everything Trish, even though there's other people involved.

But I have my cards too. But no, I feel like this is a very big theme. So like I love the Barbie movie. Got some backlash for being anti-men. Do you think people are actually upset? Or do you think people just want to say this to like get attention? I think a little bit of both. I think people are so – the conservative like like movement quote unquote is so extreme, whereas like, they will take anything and like milk it, especially something that's as big as the Barbie movie. It's like literally a pop culture phenomenon. It's almost cool to hate on the thing that's popular and to take something that's so big and like run the opposite, you know right yeah um it just makes you stand out especially in that like echo chamber of like

negativity where it's like people want someone to agree if people don't like it they want to find someone who agrees with them it's like the barbie movie i was like really how are you gonna be like so offended it's literally barbie it's dolls it's like made for girl you know what i mean like the barbie itself is like a toy made for girls like how it was brought up and marketed so it's like what you went into it expect what did you expect it to be yeah and it wasn't even like anti that's the thing it wasn't like anti-men it was just pro-women you know totally yeah they all they did was just like put in barbie land put men where women were in the real world that's really the tea right the flip so if you're that upset with that then what do you think it's like for women no it was actually so crazy when i saw that

i was like oh and can i tell you like i used to be such a ryan gosling hater like i was such a hater on ryan gosling i don't know why like a secret hater i never like left comments up for him or anything like that not that hater but i used to be such a secret hater people like watch the notebook can't understand the notebook no watch la la land literally we didn't even finish it we tried to watch it like a month ago and could not finish la la land and then what was the other movie a crazy sexy love and i was like god he's just really not good like i was such a ryan gosling hater i was like he's not good i don't find him attractive like again this is a secret hater i don't know why i'm saying obviously ryan gosling you're fine but barbie i was obsessed

with him and i was like oh my god i'm like obsessed with ryan gosling i got it i was like he's so funny he's so like he's singing i was like oh my god he's singing he's so cute he's like i was obsessed with ryan gosling someone said he was gonna get nominated for oscar i don't know how true that is but i think there's like an aggressive campaign for him. I would want to see Margot Robbie because it's, again, it's a Barbie movie. The women should definitely be acknowledged.

I think America Ferreira and Margot Robbie should also be considered. Did you catch at the end, did you follow America Ferreira's career? Have you followed her? Yeah, since like,

gotta kick it up. Okay, did you catch at the end when he said that? I was like, wait, is that a reference? Yeah. You think it was? I think so.

And it's like her real husband too, which makes it. Oh, it was? Yeah, that's her real life husband. Okay, is that a reference? Yeah. You think it was? I think so. And it's like her real husband, too, which makes it. Oh, it was? Yeah. That's her real life husband. Okay. Because that was also like random. I mean, is he an actor? Because I was like, this is kind of a random role.

He didn't really add to the story. I think it was. I kind of feel like it was a little bit random, you know. I almost thought like the husband was dead, the way she was talking about like, you know, I've been lonely. I thought they were definitely. And then he's like there. I thought they were definitely split.

Learning Spanish for her. I was like, girl, why are you lonely? Your husband's learning Spanish. I know. But I guess that also kind of reflects like the Barbie journey of like, you know, he's like there. I thought they were definitely split. Learning Spanish for her. I was like, girl, why are you lonely? Your husband's learning Spanish. But I guess that also kind of reflects like the Barbie journey of like, you know, he's just Ken,

you know? Oh, totally. Okay. Okay, I get that. Yeah, it was great.

When he said, si, su, bueno, I was like, it means yes, I can. Yeah,

that left a mark. Yes, as a Latina. I don't know. From the movie, gotta kick it up. It was, yes,

I can. Not because I'm Latina oh my gosh okay and I love it makes me so happy that the Barbie is like a big phenomenon

like I love going to the movie theater and seeing everyone in pink yeah did you wear pink yeah of course I love that me too it just made me so happy

cinema was back baby cinema was it was an experience going to see Barbie it was so fun like I went twice this weekend me too and I was like

it was so fun just to see everyone excited for movies again I love movies I went twice this weekend. Me too. And I was like, it was so fun just to like see everyone excited for movies again. I love movies. I'm a movie person. I love going to theaters. And it's been so long since I feel like there's been such excitement for the movies again. And I left so happy. Like it was emotional, but I left feeling good. Yeah.

Movies are like an escape. I just, I love movies. I'll go see any movie that's out. I love it. Me too. No, it was great. Hardy Neff is in everything. Yeah.

I love her. She's in The Idol. Yeah. Is she really? So good. She plays a Vanity Fair reporter. Oh my god. Isn't that what she is? A Vanity Fair reporter who does it on the... Spoiler. She interviews Jocelyn and she's so good. And the first time we saw her I think was in You, which I'm obsessed with You.

I love Penn Badge. Oh, I love You. I don't think he would like me. I think he's very like... He just seems like someone who's kind of like an almond mom. You know what I mean? Like a crunchy mom. Yeah. you. I don't think he would like me. I think he's very like – he just seems like someone who's kind of like an almond mom. You know what I mean? Like a crunchy mom. Yeah, he's very chill. That would not like me.

Be like, you're too much. Yeah, anti-consumerism kind of. Right. There you go. That's what it is. He loves to consume. But he has a great podcast I listen to all the time. Yeah.

And I actually really love – I'm obsessed with you because like I really think that's like based off of me. I feel like they wrote that show because that's like totally me. Like I understand his psyche. You know what I mean? I mean he's crazy. But I mean obviously not towards the end, but like at the first season I was kind of like, oh, I kind of understand obsessions with people. I never followed her. Right. Minus that part. Okay. Snow White though. Did you see all this controversy? Did you see Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot's interview talking about this? No, I didn't see their interview talking about it. Okay. So they

recently just did one and it was all over my TikTok page, saying that, and I love Rachel's Lego. Can I tell you, I was like the OG. I'm sure there's a tweet somewhere, like literally like 10 years ago, of me tweeting a cover of one of her songs of Hamilton. I was like, how are you not so famous? And then like she's everywhere. And I love her.

So this is like really not any shade towards her or Gal Gadot. Love Gal Gadot too. She was supposed to be Barbie. Love Gal Gadot. But they did this interview on the red carpet of some red carpet like a couple days ago and they're like what's different about this movie Snow White? What can we expect? And Rachel Zegler was just like it's not 1937.

The prince is not going to save her. She does not care about true love. She wants to be a leader and that's what she's born to do and that's it. That's what it's about. And everyone's like but this is Snow White. Like why don't you just make a whole new movie about another like princess that like wants to be a leader? Why are you doing Snow White

when there's no prince that's going to save you? And okay, but now you're ultra feminist. What do you think about this? Like, I feel, okay, go ahead. See, I think my thing is when everything has been a certain way for a really long time, and I think we're in this point in history

where it's kind of like the cusp and you have to almost go so aggressively the other way in order to make up for a lot of the time that has been like lost so but i do get it because it's kind of like you don't want to twist the original story so much that it's not the original story you know what i mean it's almost like a new take on it so if you're gonna if you're gonna say you're gonna do a live action of you know the cartoon you should hold similar things in common. Like The Little Mermaid did a good job with it, I think,

where she had, they changed the little parts of it to make it not so, you know, old-fashioned as far as, like, what her motivations. Ariel was, like, wanted to explore, and that was her thing. It wasn't specifically about, you know, the prince. And I think Aladdin did that, too. I think Jasmine was, oh can I say that I kind of did have an issue with that because of what Jasmine got to be the sultan and I'm kind of like oh can't we just like you know the romanticize the fantasy a man just like comes

and save us you know what I was single independent for so long and I still am like I'm still boss babe like all this stuff like that but I'm telling you like there is something very romantic and wonderful about finding like true love and like finding a prince charming that kind of like somewhat saves you. And you can still be boss. You can still be leader, which I guess Aladdin kind of did then. Like she's sultan and has Aladdin, which is like cool. That I get. But to not have like any prince, again, that's what they said in this interview. So I don't know, but to not have any prince and to not like care about that. I'm like, I wish we could just have one where that is it. Cause don't you just want to be rescued sometimes? Like sometimes as a strong, independent girl, boss, babe, all this stuff like that. Sometimes you just want to be rescued sometimes like sometimes as a strong independent girl boss babe all this stuff like that sometimes you just want to be like rescued

and carried you know you just kind of want to be can you just can you just help me i've been doing so much for so long the minute he took out the trash i was like i'm so in love i've been doing that my whole life i'm so tired i have to work and the barbie monologue was so great with america ferrer because you have to do so much and everything it's sometimes nice to just be saved yeah and i don't think there's anything i think it's such a complex kind of thing too because it is it's not anti-feminist to want that either you know what i mean it's right all because you want to kind of have a little bit of a traditional element in a relationship or an entertainment that doesn't mean you're anti-feminist also you know it's very complex and it's not black and white i do do think in media, it's good to kind of have that angle, though, just because, like

I said, it's been we've had so much media where it is that case, you know, even like early 2000s. It was all very much like your woman is defined by the relationship. And, you know, it's kind of like a Barbie. You take off your glasses and you're like, all of a sudden you're the hot girl. Like we've had so much of that. So it is nice to now have this wave of something that's a little bit different, you know?

And I do think, like right now, I think it is aggressively... Anti-men. It's like, yeah. It's kind of just like the opposite right now, right? But I think in a couple of years, it'll kind of even out because we've made up for that,

like lost time, if that makes sense. Yeah, I think it's like a little too pushy with it. And especially with Disney, and it's like, and these are classics, since you love them, it's like just remake a different movie because they're also doing magical creatures that's a hot topic right now have you seen this on no I love the Trish take over okay how many have seen this this has been everywhere and honestly it makes me so

upset and maybe it shouldn't be but like okay so this has been everywhere like everyone's been talking about this is same thing with the Snow White movie is everyone is upset because they're not Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs it's Snow White and the Magical Creatures oh yes yes yes no I did see this yeah so they're they did not cast and this is the politically correct way to say it I did look it up dwarf you can call them dwarf actors right is that I think so yeah I looked at that because I just want to make sure because Piers Morgan had on um oh I have my note I didn't want to make sure I get his name right is Dylan Postol who is uh I think he might have been a wrestler too everyone was saying but uh he is a dwarf actor so he was on there saying that that's what they go by and um you know and Weedman also was talking about this so basically

Peter Dinklage you know him from Game of Thrones and was in a ton of movies Elf all the stuff like that was basically said like last year like um Disney this is like not progressive like whatever and then Disney like changed it and we're okay we're gonna have magical creatures we're not gonna have any we're not gonna hire i think there's one dwarf actor in there and i think all the rest are just like um i don't know what they call them like average size people i don't know um and so all these dwarf actors now are like upset because they're like this is like our moment like there's no way in this happen dwarves being remade like this is like and so it's kind of the opposite of inclusive they're like

disney was trying to be like politically correct, but now you're like not including them at all. And so they were very like upset. And they're very upset with Peter Dinklage, who was an elf. And one of the like jokes is about being like a dwarf and being like, oh, it's a little elf. So he's like monetized. He's like gained, he's gotten money off of this.

And now he's trying to take like all these people are like pissed because like what? And Wee Man too, he like joined in too. He's like, this is like so unfair like this is our roles like what yeah that's really that makes sense because like you said there's not a lot of roles for them so now that all of a sudden there's an opportunity for basically seven jobs right for these actors so it does make sense all of a sudden now we're taking away roles that finally there's like opportunity for these people to get jobs and now they don't have that opportunity yeah peter dinklage's argument was like you know we should just play any characters it doesn't have to be for you know specifically dwarf actors which

is very true but like he was saying is like you know i'm not going to get a part that goes to like ryan reynolds or something like that you know what i mean like you know deadpool necessarily which you know they should be and could be but he's saying you know when there's a specific role that's so specifically your type and those are given to actors of average size that can play any role, that's when they're a little annoyed. And there was someone,

I think it was a Piers Morgan we were watching, which is like, when do you ever agree with Piers Morgan? Never, but they had like a, he called himself a Wokie. This guy was like, I'm a Wokie or whatever. And he was like, no, and he's debating this actor,

sorry, Dylan, and saying like you know they're just trying to be i don't know i think see i think that makes sense because it's it's almost like if a person if a role is uh like for a person of color like if it's an adaptation from a book or something and that character is written to be a person of color and you did the and you made them white like that you're taking away something from a minority giving to a majority so i think it's maybe a little bit similar to that like these people are a minority and this is finally an opportunity for them and then all of a sudden you're taking that away and giving it to a majority which is like the average height

people yeah so maybe it's something like that and i can understand that i guess that goes kind of to this other debate then of like you know in glee what was kevin mckale i think his name was not in a wheelchair but playing i forget his name in the show but playing arty arty in a wheelchair like should i have gone to someone in a wheelchair yeah i didn't think yes i should have and it's funny i think they kind of course corrected quote unquote a little bit because i remember the glee project i love the glee project oh my god and then they had that actress i forget her name but she was in a wheelchair and then they Glee Project. I love the Glee Project. So niche. We're the only two people that watched the Glee Project. I love the Glee Project. And then they had that actress, I forget

her name, but she was in a wheelchair and then they She's on Broadway now. She's like in Oklahoma. She's great. She won a Tony. Yeah, I know. I forgot her name too. I love her. Oh, she was in Murders in the Building too. Yeah, she's great. Oh yeah, with Selena. Yes, Selena. Who knows The Weeknd? Selena, if you know The Weeknd. It all goes back to Abel.

But yeah, I feel like maybe they try to course correct and then even though she didn't win she was like in a few episodes but yeah i think oh is that why they did well right like you think they maybe were trying to be like okay we'll put and i mean she was obviously really talented anyway of course i think they were at a point where they saw that maybe they shouldn't have done that maybe and then i think with those like very specific things i think it's like, yeah, like if there's roles for that, like, you know, and those people should play all the characters, you know what I mean?

But. Yeah, I think it kind of works like that, right? Like there should, they should be, if you're in a minority, you should not be shut out of playing something that's in the majority. Right. But if a role is written for someone in a minority, then they should also be like the first ones to get that. What do you think about.

Opportunity, I think. Gay roles. Like, do you think only gay actors should only play gay roles i don't know i don't know if it's as like black and white i think it definitely helps when a gay actor gets the gay role you know um i think if it was up to me i think that should be the first choice you know because i think like i said there there's not as many opportunities. I mean, there's people like Pedro Pascal. Like, there's actors that do play, like, straight roles. Wait, is Pedro Pascal gay? Yeah, he's gay.

Is he out? He's out, but he hasn't – it's not like – he's not branded as that. We can cut it if we need to. No, he's like – because he, like, follows, like, OnlyFans guys on Instagram. Like, he's – I did not know. He's, like, out, but not – Yeah. Yeah. But I kind of, like, love that like love that too because it's like there is that spectrum all my gay friends are there's you know

there's some that are like very out and love to do pride and then there's something that's just like low-key like doesn't define them yeah exactly i think pedro's kind of in that too but yeah it's i like that they can like gay people can play straight roles and have it not be a big deal but i think like kind of similar they should be the first ones looked at for gay roles. I think that makes sense. I agree. I feel like with straight roles, whatever anyone play,

you know, I play them, whatever everybody plays them, you know, like, but I think with like gay roles, especially like gay icons, like Freddie Mercury,

Elton John, I know both of those guys are straight. Right. And like, I do think there is like a little bit like, uh, I don't know. I just feel like there could have been like a gay actor that could have played those because that like is what embodies.

That's what that person stands for. Especially someone like Freddie Mercury and Elton John were very like that's, you know, they pro-gay. All the stuff like they do for the gay community. It should be someone to play them, I guess. I don't know. And I'm not on the fence. I'm not like aggressively, you know, not going to watch it just because a straight actor is playing it. But it does.

It is in the back of my mind a little bit, if that makes sense. Yeah, I feel, I'm kind of more aggressively about it. I'm kind of like, they should go to gay actors. Because there's so many, there's so many talented gay actors that don't get to play straight because they are gay or they're open or whatever, you know what I mean? Yeah. Interesting. How do we get on that?

Oh, we were talking about the Snow White. Yeah. So Snow White's shrouded in controversy right now, which is like crazy. And they're just like, and also the outfit they put Rachel's like, oh, I know. It is sad. This whole movie is sad. I really think they just need to like pull it and like maybe cast all Dwarf actors because like honestly, like it's iconic.

Dwarf actors don't have a problem with this except for one, Peter Dinklage. All the other people are like, give us these roles. We want these roles. And I think everybody else is like, yeah, we want to see that. So yeah. And I get that it's dicey. Like it's hard to, you know, please everyone. But, yeah, at the end of the day, I think if you were taking opportunities away from a minority, then you should rethink it.

That's kind of, like, my perspective. No, for sure. I think when it's like that, like, Aladdin, they did a really good job casting, like, everyone, all from, like, the Middle East and, like, all the different cultures. I think that's, like, important. You know what I mean? I don't know. I think it's good. Oh, speaking of the weekend. And then I'm going to go. I think that's like important. You know what I mean? I don't know. I think it's good. Oh, speaking of the weekend.

And then I'm like, sorry. Back to Abel. There is – you did not hear about this. Bobbi Althoff, her podcast with Drake. Oh, yeah. You were telling me about this. So you don't know who Bobbi is. No, we were on different talks, I think.

Which is crazy. But I'm shocked because don't we see this everywhere? Like I feel like we see her interview with Drake everywhere. And you're like, I don't know. You said you don't follow Drake news news is he is he canceled everyone's canceled but again it's like i just more follow the girlies and he kind of annoyed he has this thing where he always tries to release music when a big female artist is releasing music and it really irks me you think yeah he's did it with taylor for her last album goes back to taylor

and he was salty when she beat him on the chart of course you know she's gonna come out he was salty yeah he like posted a salty little instagram story after taylor like um beat him on the charts the second week what did he say he just posted that because she released like remixes of anti-hero and he made was like basically throwing shade that she had to release a remix to stay at number one wow the fact that she could release a remix and be at number one is kind of impressive yeah exactly drake so aubrey okay aubrey right that was the whole thing on this on this interview was him i first i didn't know i love that like i love that they have these like pseudonyms like they're drake and then they're

aubrey and they're weekend and they're able like i think that's kind of everything but um yeah he was on this again i don't i don't follow drake i don't follow anyone but this girl's like a tiktoker i only know her as being a TikToker. She's kind of a very like, how would you describe her sense of humor? Like, I don't know. Is she like a character? Yeah, she's in character. And she's like very, I don't know, trying to be funny.

Like, you see that she's in character. It's heavy. But how would you describe that character? She's very dry, sarcastic. And like, she'll do horrible stuff to her like as a mom but be very dry about it she has like a baby she called rich i don't know it's so hard to explain to someone who doesn't know but she's on tiktok she has the only way i should put a trigger warning for this the only way i could kind of describe it as like miranda sings kind of like a little like

awkward yeah not that level right But there's like the drop, which I never get that. I never get that interaction. Like I just, I don't understand that kind of humor. Maybe people compared it to like Between Two Ferns. Did you ever see that podcast with Zach Galifianakis? So people are comparing it.

I don't get the sense of humor at all. Like at first I like, is this a character? I put your name on this character. But she had Drake on and she only had four episodes, by the way. So only four episodes and she said Drake.

So we can do our fourth episode with Abel. You know what I mean I wonder who's more popular Drake or The Weeknd that's actually a good question because they both are very successful probably The Weeknd right now yeah because of the idol yeah um but I think but he probably can't come on until after the strike which is like fine which hopefully gets resolved I don't know if we can talk about that whatever I don't know what we can talk about I just don't want to get canceled but um but yeah she has all these people. And I'm like, the people are saying she's like an industry plant. Because it's like, how do you get these big guests?

Because she has like another rapper named Lil Yachty coming on next week. Oh, yeah. Lil Yachty. Okay. So how is she getting all these people when she only has four episodes? Yeah. You got to look. I'm going to have to do some investigative journalism.

Because she's probably like a bigger company or something is behind. Someone said a nepo baby we heard. Possibly a nepo baby. But possibly a nepo baby but I didn't find her parents yeah I mean yeah if they aren't even doing like traditional interviews there's definitely a reason why they're doing she was like she flew up to Toronto and she's like

they're in bed that's like the thing and she's like married with kids and stuff like that and they're talking about their kids or whatever and I'm just like this is like how did this happen honestly like good for her like I always like I said I'm never a hater I'm always just like how does this happen because I want to know like I this is like, how did this happen? Honestly, like good for her. Like I always, like I said, I'm never a hater. I'm always just like, how does this happen? Because I want to know. Like I want to be able to do this. But it's like I've been doing social media for like 16 years.

And I'm just like, how do they get these people? It's definitely, it gives me industry plan vibes. I don't know anything about it. But that is my like instinctual. I should have ran this. I thought you would know this. I was going to run this by you. But.

No, especially with like rapper, like male rappers, female rappers. Male rappers, I'm very like – I love that you're so feminist, like ultra female, pro woman. Yeah. And I don't really notice it until I start explaining things. I'm like, wow, I really don't like any men, really. Wow. Yeah.

Interesting. No, I used to be anti-men. I go through eras. Sometimes I'm like, ugh, I'm a little anti-men. But now I'm very – I still can be anti-men sometimes. I just have such a good man in my life that I'm like, oh, I kind of love men. And they're great and they're awesome. But I don't know.

I think when it just comes – I'm just skeptical when it comes to like pop culture stuff I think. I think I go out of my way to support women entertainers more so. Yeah. Just instinctually like as a gay person I just identify more with them. And then I think it's also just harder for them. So that's like I think I will go to war for them more often. And that's so true. That's why I try not to be a hater on anyone.

Like I did a podcast. I did the Julie Fox podcast actually. And I was talking about Meghan Markle. And I'm like, oh my God, she's so annoying. Like she didn't know the queen was a big deal. And she thought it was medieval times. And I was like kind of being a hater. And they were like, oh, that's – what was the word they used?

Misogynist? Misogynist. Misogynist. They're like, that's like misogynistic. And they're like, that's okay. Everyone's misogynistic. I'm like the word they used misogynist misogynist they're like that's like misogynistic and they're like that's okay everyone's misogynistic i'm like i'm not misogynistic but but then i kind of understood it in the sense of like you know yeah if you're like you shouldn't if you like don't agree with what a woman's doing like maybe don't tear it down because so many people are trying to especially megha markel she was bothering me but i was like

you know what let me not talk about this because everyone's trying to tear her down and guess she could be cringy and all this stuff like that but it's like as a woman maybe i shouldn't be that one to like also join in with all these people trying to tear her down. And yes, she could be cringy and all this stuff like that. But it's like as a woman, maybe I shouldn't be that one to like also join in with all these people trying to tear her down. Even though I wasn't tearing her down. I was just like, oh my God, she's so annoying. But you know what I mean? I think in general, like women and men, it's better to like lift women up because we already do have it so much harder.

I feel like it is a little bit of a double standard. You know, men don't get the same hate for the same things. You know what I mean? Like when I think about stuff that I've gotten, I'm like, if it was a man doing that or saying the things i say like it is it is different so i've become a little more feminist in my i don't know i maybe i was always a feminist some people you always were because i was considering myself like a stripper sex worker and they're like no actually like feminists like support that like doing what you want with your body where i was i was opposite like women judging me for like showing off my body i think it was like i mean like megan fox

is talking about this a lot too like when she was in transformers they like, she kind of missed out on the quote-unquote feminist movement. Yes. Because people should have really been behind her when she was kind of used, like, as a sex object kind of thing, you know? And then now, of course, like, we have that renaissance of Megan Fox, you know, where people kind of saw how messed up that stuff was. So it is interesting. And it's not – I don't know. Feminism is very complex, too. Very complex.

And there's no, like – there's no black or white, really, when it comes to it. There's's not – I don't know. Feminism is very complex too. Very complex. And there's no black or white really when it comes to it. There's so many gray areas. But for myself, I just identify and enjoy women in entertainment more. Totally. Yeah. No, I'm getting there now. I think I was always very insecure and always jealous. I think it comes down to it too.

Like as a woman, I was always jealous of other women. I was just like – like I said, if I – like 10 years years ago would look at that Bobby and be like she has this pocket. I was like, ugh, she's not even funny. Like why does she have this person? But now I'm just like, how did you do this? Like what? And I think it's amazing. I think it's great.

But I'm just like, you know. Yeah, I don't think you can call yourself a feminist if you bash – if you try and tear a woman down. Something along the lines that it's like not worthy of. Like if you did commit a crime or something. Yeah. Exactly. I was going to say.

Obviously if like a woman commits a crime, a serious crime and is actually guilty of something, then that's like a completely different situation. Totally. Like you don't have to defend her. Exactly. I was going to say, obviously if like, you know, a woman commits a crime, a serious crime, and is actually guilty of something, then that's like a completely different Totally. Like you don't have to defend her. Yeah. Who was the one, I don't even know what you can say, the one with Jeffrey Epstein?

Who was that woman? Oh, yeah. The short hair. Yeah. Like I feel like maybe her, you could not like. Yeah, I definitely think. Yeah, I think.

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TMZ. It's like, the sources are a little wishy-washy. TMZ. Okay, wait, and first and foremost, is this confirmed?

Did Ariana or Ethan confirm this? We just have sources on sources on sources. You know how it is. Yeah. So it's very. I just hope it's not true. Like, I'm just still like, kind of team Ariana and being like,

girl. I know. Because talk about feminism. I think the number one rule of feminism is like, yes, it's the guy's fault for sure. But also, like, the girl, if you know, like, do solidarity and be like, you know, don't even go there. Maybe tell the person, like, hey, this person, whatever. I know. And it's so, again, so complicated.

So in case you guys. It's not complicated. Just don't date someone who's married with. Oh, right, right. Yeah, yeah, feminism. Like, how about just don't hook up with someone who's married with us so yeah if you guys allegedly miss it out for some reason last week after we talked about um ariana divorce getting a divorce from dolton gomez it was uh revealed that she is dating her wicked co-star ethan slater who is most famously known for playing spongebob

which is great people are dogging him for that role he was actually so good playing Spongebob on Broadway. Which is great. People are dogging him for that role. He was actually so good on Spongebob. Like I was obsessed with that musical. Yeah. That's not a journey for me but I'm happy for you. He's great. He's so talented. At first I was shocked just because I'm like he kind of looks like Frankie Grande. I saw the side

by side. Yeah. So that was the first thing that made me uncomfy. I didn't know anything about him but just the look I was like it's a little suspect for me but then more information came out because uh ethan was uh recent very recently married um and he was actually married when he started filming wicked and when he met ariana and they were high school sweethearts so recently married but together for like 10 years yeah and they have a baby together. A literal seven-month-old baby. Mm-hmm.

Younger than Malibu. And I just, that's crazy. Yeah. Seven months praising her, praising the mom, being like, you're the best mom ever on Mother's Day of this year. Ariana Grande liking the posts. Like, you know, you know for a while. You just had a baby.

And so four years married, 10 years together. That's like a, that's, that's hard. Oh, four years married. So it wasn't just recent. Four years married, 10 years together that's like a that's that's hard oh four years married so it wasn't just recent 10 years together yeah that's what um ethan's instagram post for for his wife oh he like wrote that like yeah that was in november that was his caption for four years married 10 years together they did separate ethan and his ex-wife they were separated when so they were separated they were separated yeah you don't know the details of that because like are they separated because he met Ariana you know and there's no like real clarity like on the dates or like the

crossover too so but all you really know is in November he was celebrating his then wife and may mother's day yeah so it had to be something that was pretty recent um yeah i hate this so much and i really i really hope aren't i saw someone like from a pr perspective was like just say come out and be like this is not true like this is not the reasons we're not dating like i just i hope they just like we're talking about this last year like pandering like just say that to save face because like honestly that's so ick that's so ick if any of this is true i would squash these rumors so quick and if we were dating i would stop dating i'd be like we're done let's not date because maybe maybe i don't know she's very very famous maybe she's like a clouded head or something you know where it doesn't think about this stuff but especially someone postpartum like

you just had a baby like you just had a baby like that's so like i would like i was just saying this and this may be like controversial whatever but i was just saying that to the most, like if that was you and it's Ariana Grande, okay, maybe you can't resist her. Like hook up with her. Don't like leave me and our baby. Like keep it low key. I guess hook up with her. You could tell me after.

Don't tell me. I don't really care. But don't like leave me. I have this baby. I'm postpartum. I'm like even now if like if that was like even a thing, I would just I'm like don't leave me. Like I don't I don't know.

You know what I mean? It's and it's not even like stay with me because I love you. It's just like, stay with me because this shit's hard. Like you need support. The baby needs support. Like they just like a mother leaving the baby, like a father leaving the baby too. I mean, if you can help it, like don't do it. Like it's crazy. I'm, I feel for the mom so much. And I think this is a mom thing. Definitely postpartum, like, you know, all this stuff like that. It's just like, it's the hardest. It's still so hard. Like being a mom is so hard. postpartum like you know all the stuff like that it's just like it's the hardest it's still so hard like being a mom is so hard postpartum so hard all that's so hard and dealing with all this like the separation all the stuff like that even if the guy's like the

worst guy ever like it's like still like try and be there as a support don't humiliate me like this don't make it such a public thing especially if she was quote blindsided yeah so sources told entertainment tonight oh that she was actually devastated quote by the breakdown of her marriage and that this is not the future she had in mind

and she is just doing her best to get back on her feet which is very sad oh my gosh I know and then all this other stuff about

Ariana starts coming out you know like the Pete Davidson and he was with Cassie Davis and I like didn't know this cross thing or Naya Rivera

wrote about her I didn't know and it's just like girl like you have so many girls that love you and girl you can in the book i didn't know and it's just like girl like you have so many girls that love you and girl you can get anybody you can get anybody you want it's like why why do you think it's like a addiction like you think she like likes likes the chase likes the you know i don't i honestly i don't know so it's and again i don't really think about it until that video did go viral kind of showing the the history yeah with

jai courtney and then with mac miller when um he had cheated on his long-term girlfriend that no me yeah with no me and then it happened again with big sean with anaya rivera in the book and i rivera talked about it in her book did she name did she say ariana she didn't name ariana yeah the timeline it made sense that um and then pete i didn't know about the pete davidson the kazzy david for so long they dated yeah and then they were like engaged like him and ariana like three months later or something and it's kind of similar where like they were on a break and then but she was hopeful that they she would get back together with pete and then she found out like on instagram that he was dating Ariana Grande. Oh my gosh.

Yeah. And then even with Dalton, his ex-girlfriend, Ricky Barton, had posted on her Instagram story, when you see your ex with the person they told you not to worry about. And that was when Dalton. Oh, the one she married is extra. The one she just got divorced from. And then, of course, there's the song, Break Up With Your Girlfriend Because I'm Bored, which I was like, that's a bop.

People loved that back in the day. Yeah, I was like, yeah I'm Bored, which I was like, that's a bop. People loved that back in the day. Yeah, I was like, yeah, period. And now I'm looking at it a little differently. I'm like, hmm. Yeah, I hate it. Because, okay, look, first and foremost, we have to clarify, the guys are so ick for this, too. The guys are disgusting. The guy I side-eye way more.

But, again, going back to girls, okay, yes, blame the men for sure. But there is some like sort of like we did talk about like jordan but like there's sometimes where you just can't help it like someone kisses you and you're like oh don't kiss me or whatever but then there's this whole like getting in a relationship with another person like dating but no one they haven't confirmed it do you think they will like they can't they can't possibly like be at a red carpet together no and she's also very like in a post pete davidson like her she was so private with her marriage i think she'd also be super private about this too so how did it come out how are

they how is this even a rumor it was like weird sources like it came out and i do think it's true because like you said it would have been denied by now you know and that's kind of how you can tell when it gets picked up by so many outlets on the internet and everyone believes it and no one denies it yeah because it's just for outlets on the internet and everyone believes it and no one denies it. Yeah, because it's just for like behind the scenes. Like everyone every publication would want to be in good graces with Ariana Grande's team so they still have access to her in the

future. So if you're publishing something that is very harmful that could be very harmful to her and it's wrong, you would find out immediately. Right, of course. And you would have to shut down. Yeah, and you would have to fix that. Because she was so quick to hop on and rightfully so when people were talking about her body and being too skinny and she's like guys stop like what what is happening so like why wouldn't she do that and people said that too like get back wherever she was go back on your zoom

like do a statement yeah say this isn't true because like we don't want it to be true because she is such a girl's girl like she's such a girl's girl and you're just like i know and it's like you said it is mostly the guy's fault. But it's just a bummer, I would say. It's a bummer. Yeah. You know. Because you know.

You like the post. Yeah. It's just a bummer because I love Ariana. Like, I love the music. I love everything that she stands for. Besides this. And she's slender. But now we're going to watch Wicked and we're going to be like, oh.

It's going to be so. And it's also like too far away for it to be promotion for. Of course. Yeah. No. And this is the worst promotion for it because it's so wh too far away for it to be promotion for them of course yeah no and this is the worst promotion for it because it's so wholesome and sweet and yeah you know his character buck you don't know wicket the musical but his character buck is obsessed with glinda and she's very like ew i don't want you buck i want fiero why couldn't they hold this till the freaking like month before the movie yeah right that's like the tea right there i mean that's what's so crazy to me i'm just like oh my god this is so this, this is so nuts. I'm so sad about this.

This was like very, very sad. But it's not confirmed so we should say allegedly this is not. It hasn't been denied though either. I don't know. I will always have a soft spot for Ariana. I can't help it. I like her a lot. She's not, you know, my stand card. Not my stand card. I really like her

and I listen to her a lot but she's not my top. She's not on my roster as I said. She's not her and I listen to her a lot, but she's not my, you know, my top. She's not on my roster, as I say. She's not yet. My roster is only two people. Oh. Yeah. Who's your people?

Taylor and Olivia Rodrigo. Yeah. But my roster is small. You said stand to me earlier. You're like, this is the stand in me. Yeah. Well, for me, I guess music, also you. Yeah.

I would say. I was singing I Love You Jesus unironically today. Do you know how many people want to buy that song from me? I have gotten so many offers of these like private investors, music companies, like all these big ones like literally offering me like $30,000 to $80,000 for that song and I'm like, wait, maybe I should keep on to this. Like why is everybody wanting this song? Maybe it's having its moment right now again.

I get so many like legitimate offers for this song. It was like, I saw it a lot on TikTok like a couple months ago. Yeah. No, people are living for it again. I have no idea why. That song I 100% wrote myself. Like I usually have like a writer with me. His name is Jeremy. He's amazing. But I don't know if he just loves me.

So just saying. Oh my God. Just Trish. It was just Trish. It was just Trish. Yes. Oh man. Ariana, I love you. But dang.

It's not too late. Or maybe it is too late. Maybe Ethan Slater's wife is like done with him. I just. I have to say the pattern. Like there definitely could be other stuff going on. But there is a pattern with her where but i've noticed even before this relationship where she is very like one relationship to the other and there's nothing wrong with that but i know

she's been like that since maybe a decade or so now too so it's more of an issue maybe she should take like a little break and i know she has i think she has herself figured out i think she has a good sense of self but i think there's something there has to be something there of course there has to be something else there and that's why i kind of give her like sympathy you know i know that there's she's been through a lot for sure a lot so there has to be something else going on yeah it's like hopefully she comes out work through it like i want her to make a book write a book or something someday you know she'll totally get her out like i feel like she's a very hopeless romantic i think she like really invests herself in these relationships and i think

it'll happen for her i just think you know how old is she she's my age i think she's 30 why did she was like 20 right maybe she's a little younger but she's wow yeah these it's like selena gomez too is like 30 i always feel like 30 all of a sudden yeah so she's uh a year younger than me ariana's 30. Selena's my age. 31. She just turned 31. Selena Gomez is 31 and Ariana Grande is 30. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Who are the young people now?

Why do I always think Ariana Grande? I think young. Who's like the young people? Olivia Rodrigo. She's 18. Oh, you said you were a stan for her. Who's Olivia Rodrigo? Good For You. Driver's License. Yes. Wasn't there a controversy with her drama?

Yeah, because the song – you know Sabrina Carpenter? You don't know Sabrina Carpenter. I know Sabrina Carpenter. Oh, you do know Sabrina Carpenter. It's so funny. One of my hairstylists does her hair. Live for her. Yeah.

She does give me like Trish vibes actually, her hair. She did a TikTok with my sound I think because I think I did a duet. I think she did a TikTok with my sound. We knew her on the podcast. I love Sabrina Carpenter. Okay, but I had to like research her. She was on like Girl Meets World, right? Yeah. world right yeah horrible show and um but now she's just a singer okay yeah she's like people love her i have like yeah people love her yeah she's a very very

underrated singer i love her music's very good and what did she do driver's license it like insinuated that it was about her like she was like the other girl in that kind of so yeah olivia rodrigo's did in her high school musical the musical, the series co-star, Joshua Bassett. And I didn't hear that Ryan from high school musical is gay on the show. Yeah, that was big news. Yeah, which I'm like, we knew, but it's sweet, I guess. Yeah.

Yeah, because in the movies, they kind of made him date the little piano player, Kelsey. And I was like, why didn't they just like have him date someone back then? Like if he was Scott Hoying, I think played his boyfriend or his partner yeah love that for him love that he's an actor Pentatonix who I'm gonna be an actor on High School Musical that's fierce I love him yeah yeah Olivia Rodrigo that's where she met Joshua Bassett there was another one about the vampire song there was some drama oh yes because so the vampire

vampire is her newest song Olivia Rodrigouez newest song yes and it's about god i forget his name but he dated madison beer right and madison beer wrote a lot of songs about there was like actual like paparazzi photos of him like yelling at her on the street and her crying oh um and madison had a lot of songs about like that kind of trauma that she endured with it with i forget his name um not irrelevant this is yeah emails only yeah and so yeah and the song was about him just about her being like a young he's old there's an age gap um she's 18 so it was legal but there was a big age gap and it was who was 18 madison beer uh olivia rodrigo and maybe madison when she was dating him and how does he how was he i think he's i forget his name but he

was definitely older i think late 20s. Yeah. I think that's weird. I think like 18, 19, 20, if you're dating someone like in their late 20s or like that's weird. Because there's a line in the song that was like, girls your age know better because so he's not dating girls, you know, because. Of course. The younger ones are the ones that will be, you know, impressed by the antics. Yeah. Yeah.

And they, you know, just 18, you're 18, you know, you just like believe everything and whatever. You know, the 18 year olds aren't smart, but you just like learn a lot more. But where did we get Sabrina Carpenter? That's a drama. Oh, Olivia Rodrigo. And I was trying to figure out who she is. I mean, I know those songs.

She has a thing. Like if you tell me songs, I'll be like, okay, yeah, like I kind of know those songs. But like she's not in like any TV show. She wasn't like – Yeah. She was in High School Musical, the musical, the series. Oh. Yeah.

And then she got famous from singing, so then she quit the show. Oh. Yeah, she moved on. Love that. She's like, bye, guys. Yeah, now she's too big for that. Yeah. Really?

She was in High School Musical. How long has that show been on for? I think it's like four or five seasons now. She was on it for one season and then partially in the next. Like, she was a little bit in the next. I don't like when they do series like that. It's like, High School Musical was so good. Like, why are you making it a series?

Like, I think it's so weird. I watched it for a little, I went back because when I became obsessed with Olivia, I went back and watched it. And she was good in it. But she's also like, she was in a Disney show with Jake Paul, actually. Which one?

Bizaardvark. Never heard of that either. I think so. Yeah, Bizaardvark. Oh my gosh. Wow. Yeah, she's like the, I think she's kind of the young Hollywood now, I guess.

Oh, right. That's where we're like, who's the young? Or like when they were talking about Ken, like Ryan Gosling being too old for Ken. I'm like, well, who else would play him? Like who would be a, oh, we talked about that Austin Butler, I guess. Did we talk about that? No, but. Someone said that.

And I was like, I guess Austin, but he's Elvis now, so he can't be that. I don't know who else would be Ken. Like who's like a hot young boy? I think that sounds weird. Like a hot young, like young man actor. Timothee Chalamet is kind of like, I guess. I feel like he's like. He's young, like young man actor. Timothee Chalamet is kind of like, I guess. I feel like he's like.

He's like an it boy? Yeah. Timothee Chalamet. He's the one that does Willy Wonka? Yes. And on TikTok, he's just like, scratch that,

reverse it. Like, it's like not good. Everyone's like, when was this audition? It's so, I love when your reference for everything is TikTok. It's so funny.

I'm only getting news on TikTok. And everyone is making fun of that sound where he's like, it's just so cringy. I know nothing about him, but I'm only getting news on TikTok. And everyone is making fun of that sound where he's like it's just so cringy. I know nothing about him but I'm just like this is like the worst Willy Wonka I've seen. Like they honestly could have gotten the Willy Wonka from TikTok and played him in the movie. Yeah. I mean I'm not a Timmy C. Stan

by any means. But I think he's the only one I can think of who's like a young Hollywood like it boy. He's also from Stranger Things or no? No. He wasn't? No. What was he from before? What was his famous role? Armie Hammer. Call me by your name.

Did you say Armie Hammer? Yes. Was he in the movie? Armie Hammer? Yeah. With Timothee Chalamet. Yeah. I didn't know he was like a working actor. Did you know that? Armie Hammer? My mom's like obsessed with like the Armie Hammer true crime. Yes. And she kept telling me to watch. She tells me Armie Hammer. I. My mom's like obsessed with like the Armie Hammer true crime. Yes. And she kept telling me

to watch it. She always tells me Armie Hammer, Armie Hammer. I'm like mom, why do I want to watch this about someone eating people? Like I don't want to know about this stuff.

He's like an actor? He's an actor. Yeah, he was in Call Me By Your Name. That was Timothee Chalamet's like first big role was that movie. How are people working

with this guy? Doesn't he allegedly eat people? Nothing came out until after everything's come out I don't think Armie Hammer has worked in anything. But yeah.

Oh, okay. Back then it was all like no one really knew. I just thought he was in like one movie like The Soul Shall Not Work like years ago and that was it. after everything's come out I don't think Armie Hammer has worked in anything but yeah back then it was all like no one really knew I just thought he was in like one movie like The Soul Shall Not Work like years ago and that was it

he was in a few things I think but yeah I mean it was like a big it was like an Oscar movie that movie it was

what was it Call Me By Your Name yeah it was like a gay romance who was gay in it Timothy Chalmé and Armie Hammer

is he gay no is Armie Hammer gay no because the quote on the scandal was with women the Armie Hammer thing gay in it timothy chalme and army hammer is he gay no all right is army hammer gay no because the quote on the scandal was with women the army hammer thing right how interesting okay but you liked it you were like that movie's cool no i didn't i mean people did love it because it was like a beautiful gay like love story even though it was kind of it was weird to me because he was

like a it was like an age gap kind of thing forbidden romance army hammer was a lead in that yeah and then timmy timmy c i call him but he was younger not a guest of the podcast sorry no but he's in doom with zendaya never saw it i never i don't like dune i'm not a dune head but that's all i could think of it's like zendaya and i would do anything for him i was like i don't think he'd sit through dune It's like two and a half hours. I tried it. We tried to do James Bond with Rami Malek and I was like,

this is like slow. I fell asleep during Dune. My boyfriend loves Dune. He tries to make me watch Dune all the time and I can never do it. I fell asleep in James Bond and the Batman

or Robert Pattinson. I fell asleep like the whole movie. I fell asleep a little bit. I love Robert Pattinson though. I love Robert Pattinson too and I was like this movie and I actually loved Batman movies when they were good.

Like to me, Batman movies were good with like Uma Thurman and like Michelle Pfeiffer like I loved those but these ones are so dark I can't like physically I cannot see yeah but that's what people say because like I physically can't see anything and I have bad eyesight anyways and I could not

tell you one thing that was happening in that movie that's why I'm thinking like Barbie because it was all bright for once so pretty so fun so bright I loved it so much it was so iconic it was nice to be able to see maybe we could be Barbie and Ken in the next one we could be one of the Barbies and one of the Kens oh yeah do you think it should get a sequel yes but Greta Gerwig was like sorry exactly I'm not about it I'm like I don't want to shatter dreams but no not for me yeah I would love to see um she was good

I was gonna say I don't know I would love to see who was it the one who wrote Juno was gonna write it um oh yeah Devil Cody yes I would love to see her but she was like I couldn't see Barbie as like a feminist and I'm like but that is Barbie like yeah or Amy Schumer was going to write it. Oh, yeah. Diablo Cody. I would love to have seen her, but she was like, I couldn't see Barbie as a feminist. And I'm like, but that is Barbie. Or Amy Schumer was supposed to be Barbie. Yeah, Barbie has had a lot of lies before Margot Robbie came along. Gal Gadot. I'm glad that it ended up the way it ended up. Yeah, it's perfect.

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it started with a man, as most situations usually do. Okay, yes. So she was seen earlier this month. She was photographed kissing her new boyfriend jay cyrus okay but you were telling me was a tiktoker yeah so i don't know anything about i researched obviously i had never heard of him but he was a tick uh i'm a viner originally and he like collabed with gabby hannah a lot okay iconic yeah she's iconic work hope she's okay by the way as much as our whatever Like I always have a little

Love relationship for Gabby Yeah I love Butterflies She's okay Yeah Butter Did you work on that No Why do you think he's

Someone I know worked on Butterflies No Do we know I forget Someone I know worked on that That's a great song I always would tell her that I'm like that song is so good

Me too And I told her that too And then yeah Oh did you tell her in person Not that I mean she was so good That song is so good yeah

it gets in my head sometimes to this day oh when she was like wait there's one I think I got there's one of my favorite lines and that is like go for the chorus

I can like get the apologies wait is that butterflies wait no that's a different one what is that one I don't know cause all these songs with my butterflies, butterflies. That is not it.

Yes, it is. Because after all this time with my butterflies. No. From the start. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then it builds up to all these times with my butterflies, butterflies. No, wait.

Some of them are going up. We can can cut this out but i just want to know we can keep it in that is not it oh no okay yes new situations with low expectations you still manage to let me down oh my god that was singing perfect day it was killing me what i was singing oh yeah yes right with the shower yes yeah that was that was great. It was killing me what I was singing. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes. Right. With the shower. Yes. Yeah. That was great too. That was right after.

Yeah. Okay. There we go. Okay. Okay. Because I was like, wait. That's a great iconic album. Two-way mirror. Yes.

No, like low key. I mean, again, this is maybe just whatever. I don't know. Whatever. Who cares whatever happened. But she actually is talented. And I feel like that's one thing I always want to tell her. And I feel like I told her.

But we always just butted heads. But she is very talented. And she always kind of just did what she wanted. And I feel – that's like one thing I always want to like tell her and I feel like I told her but like we always just like butted heads but she is like very talented and she always kind of just did what she want and I feel and she obviously was very emotional had a lot of emotions just like me whatever but um yeah I was kind of felt bad for I hope she's I hope she's okay I don't feel bad for I mean I'm sure she's thriving she like bought a house very young she's very whatever but um that god that butterflies was so good yeah it's like oh it's so good like they're great yeah and she's and she writes i think her own music yeah amazing i think she's a good songwriter yeah oh man god i would love to

have gabby hannah i just don't think our personalities clash i would love to have her on though and just like just tell her how talented she is because like booze everything else like you know whatever she's talented she called me sinister once so that was i was like, you know, whatever. She's talented. She called me sinister once. So that was like, I don't know. Wow, are you a little sinister? Are you sinister? What is sinister? Dark? Yeah, because, oh my God.

It was a whole thing. But during the Joey, Gabby drama. Okay. Well, you know, like eras. You know, there's eras we go through and we like find things wrong with everybody. Like that was probably me. I'm sure I like, you know. Yeah.

But I do. I still love the music, obviously. Yeah. A bop is jay cyrus so um anyway so he was a viner and he's also on twitch um and dating doja cat and dating doja cat yeah so when these photos came out there was a big portion of her fan base that was trying to, I guess, bring awareness that he has some allegations of emotional abuse when it comes to younger girls. And he has once written a long apology about how he took advantage of some of his moderators on Twitch and some of the people who watch and subscribe to him. Oh, he's apologized. He wrote like a – yeah. So he has had an apology.

Okay. But it's since been deleted. so how long ago was the i think it was like 2018 2019 i think so recent ish but yeah so her fans kind of pointed this out and basically tweeted this to her and then so she like clapped back and she said i want y'all to read this comment and take it as a message. I don't give a F what you think about my personal life. I never have and never will give a F what you think about me or my personal life. Goodbye and good riddance, miserable hoes. Ha ha. Oh.

So she took it, you know, she was definitely pretty extreme with it. So that's kind of where everything started, I would say. Oh, it started there. It's not ending there. That was just kind of like the beginning. Yeah. Okay, so right there, because again, I there. That was just kind of like the beginning. Yeah. Okay, so right there, because again, I know nothing about the situation. I know nothing about these people. Right there,

it's like, okay, yes, it's aggressive, but it's like, I kind of get it. She wasn't dating him when he was doing this. Not that it makes it okay. First of all, I think it's like ick, and especially if it's like young girls, whether they're like barely 18 or whatever, I still think that's like so ick, and you know, my stance on guys like this, I think you're like weird like you're weird

but and how old was he you said he was like in his late 20s when he was doing this yeah I think we are early 30s early 30s because he's 36 weird it's so weird and it's definitely ick and like you know whatever I don't know his apology I didn't see his apology like the fact that he acknowledged it and I gave an apology I think like gives a little bit of like

okay you took a little accountability maybe you've changed to some people some people generally maybe don't know or they need to get help and maybe they got help. So I always try to maybe, maybe take that into consideration. And it is annoying when you date someone and like something they did before you gets brought up and you're like, okay, like, cause wasn't Nicki Minaj like that too? She had a guy that was maybe not, I don't know. I don't know anything about him.

Yeah. Was he? He's her husband right now. He was, I don't know if he was found guilty or charged or whatever, but there was like a sex offense. I forget what exactly it was though. It's, it's, it's, I don't know. That situation is so touchy because I mean, it's kind of, I think it depends on the severity

of these situations, right? The girls weren't underage. They were just young, which is like ick. But like if you take accountability and like, you know, apologize because it is annoying. You're, you're Doja Cat and you're like, I don't know this person. This happened before me. He's like, apologize. He's not doing this stuff now.

I don't know. What are your thoughts on it? I mean, me, I'm just like, okay, he apologized. Like it is annoying for her to be like aggressive about it with her fans. I don't know. Yeah. So again, that's kind of just like, it's a part of the thing where I don't think the woman should really be held responsible for something that the guy she's dating did in

the past. Before her. Yeah. Like not even anything. Yeah. Because obviously she had like no part in that. held responsible for something that the guy she's dating did in the past before her like yeah before yeah because obviously she had like no part in that um so that part i do get i think especially too it's like there's so many things that go into like relationships and you sometimes you can't help who you fall in love you know you can't believe you fall in love with and stuff and i think as long as he's not harming anyone now, like that's important too. But I do – I get like fans being concerned about it and wanting to bring attention to it.

I think where I go wrong is I can only relate this to Taylor because I relate everything to her obviously. Taylor's supposed to be on the weekend. We need you to collab. Yeah. Or maybe we don't. She was dating Maddie Healy recently who's a singer and he had kind of some weird allegations about him too. And people were upset at Taylor for dating someone who had like a problematic past. But she just never – and it was really short.

He was like a rebound. Okay. From who? And it was short from Joe Alwyn. Who's Joe Alwyn? We still don't know who Joe Alwyn is. That's who I love. Oh, my God.

You keep me so young. But she just didn't – and I think she knew, she had to have, or at least her team knew that people were pissed about her dating Maddie Healy, but she just didn't say anything. Right. And I think once your fame, like Doja Cat has so successful, has number one albums, number one songs. Is she more popular than Taylor Swift? No, but she's very, very, very popular.

Like she's made it so mainstream that i don't think she needs to acknowledge it and i think yeah i wouldn't know feel i think where it comes down to which is her thing lately is making fans feel dumb is for caring because it's it does come probably from a place like maybe she doesn't know we need to tell her i mean there's probably some that are like you know whatever but i do i think there i think there is like coming from a place of like you should know this. Yeah. And that's kind of, like I said, just where it started because then she kind of started waging war on her fans like the next few days.

So she was on threads, on Instagram threads. Shout out threads. Are you on it? I'm not a threader. I can only take so many platforms at a time I think. And you're not an Xer either. You said I'm not about Xs. I like to consume them.

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Facebook official Trisha Paytas. Facebook official Trisha Paytas. she's on she's got them all covered i don't know you don't post on your socials do you not really like i think i just do it for work so much that like when it comes to my own i don't really care as well just kind of wearing that right now but like i said i do consume like constantly same um but yeah so she was on threads she said someone asked her to show love for her fans or to all her fans that she loves them and she says i don't though because i don't even know y'all which okay like it's a very onision response i feel like he said that too and then she went on to say my fans don't name themselves shit if you call yourself a kitten or effing kittens that means you need to get off your phone and get a job and help your parents with the house

um which is odd because she did have a poll where she said what do you guys want to be named kittens or cubs and so you're saying she kind of what do you guys want to be named? Kittens or cubs? So you're saying she kind of asked them what they want to be named? She kind of spearheaded that. And this was during her girly pop era. Because you said now she's in a demonic era or something? She's in like, yeah. So she was from, I mean, she's always been a rapper,

but her stuff was a little bit more, I guess, poppy, poppy rap, I guess I would say. Yeah. And like her first album was like Hot Pink and everything. Actually very this. Really? That's the vibe, yeah. Maybe she could doja cat 2020 on our show. i would say yeah um and like her her first album was like hot pink and everything actually very this really the vibe yeah maybe she get doja cat 2020 on our show uh she is like always on i'm sure she knows who you are because she's always on tiktok i'm sure she doesn't if i don't know like you know what i mean she has like 25 million followers she knows i because she's love

i love you doja cat and so yeah i love women like honestly i'm taking the woman's side on this well i don't know actually we don't know this situation so yeah so maybe we don't want her on it she doesn't love our fans. That's true. But, okay, okay. So, there was that thing with the kittens. And then. So, she's saying, oh, so that was just, like, her way to be, like, if you call yourself a kitten, like.

Yeah. Get a life, basically. Touch grass. Oh. And then. But then that was sad because someone, a Stan account replied, who had, like, kittens in their username, replied. Not the username.

It was, like, they asked what she should change her, they should change their username replied not the username it was like they asked what she should change her they should change their um username too oh they asked her yeah they asked doja what they should change and she responded just delete the entire account and rethink everything it's never too late um that's kind of funny though it's kind of funny but you don't know who that person is maybe it's like this little kid who's like oh my god and he's just like genuinely such a fan and too so even before all this stuff too she's was sort of alienating her fans because she basically was making fun of her other work like uh her two previous albums because they were too poppy and she was saying that they were just cash grabs and they weren't who she is as an artist so she was already kind

of alienating some people and then this kind of just like was pretty another like big push and so since all this happened between the past like week she's lost almost 400,000 followers on Instagram as of today which could grow um but also granted for her she has like 26 million followers so that's a small tiny percentage but still that's a kind of for one week you know and it's not the worst thing to get canceled for, like being, I mean, I guess it's your fans, but like to me it's like a little bit like tongue in cheek. She's kind of, maybe she's being a little bit cute with it. Because she's kind of a troll. She's what I call a shit poster.

Like she's always on TikTok. She's always kind of making fun of pop culture. Oh, she's on TikTok? Like is she making TikToks? She's always on TikTok live. Yeah. Wait, really? Yeah. And she's funny. I think she's really tiktok like is she making tiktoks she's always on tiktok live yeah wait really yeah and she's funny i think she's really funny okay um but see i grew up again with the taylor

and like the disney star thing right where it's like i love my fans thank you so much to everyone who supported me yes so that's kind of what i'm used to and that's what we love like britney stands we're like we love that britney loves her fans you know what i mean and i get it i i try to see both sides because i love doja and oh you do i do love yeah i love her music so what side are you on i'm leaning towards i lean towards the fans who are upset with her because but i do also see the side of like you know there's a whole thing now with like parasocial relationships and like right setting up boundaries like this is my relationship don't talk about it yeah but i do think it's important to like i get being a fan and like like you know you hyper fixate on something and you just love it and you want to you want that community with it you know it's so

important and i think to be the artist like the person who's running you know who's like the pillar of the community yeah mock it it kind of it's very demoralizing if you're that fan yeah it would be so like soul crushing like britney like did not like me like publicly like i would be like so even if it wasn't just me like a generic group of our fans like y'all are annoying stop talking about me i'd be like oh but we just love you we just want to like watch out for you yeah like kind of soul even if you just be like the most soul crushing heartbreaking yeah so i get why people are so upset and now there's like a fan theory between the people who still you know team doja there's a fan theory that she's doing it as a character

for her new era scarlet the scarlet era who is kind of like losing the pink poppy stuff and just doing the more traditional this is also very nikki right doesn't nikki have like roman and all these characters i'm not like a nikki stan but I kind of know like she has those characters. Yeah. But Nicki's also another one too who's like, I mean, sometimes she'll be like honest with her barbs and she'll call them out. But for the most part, she's very like, you know. I love that she has them barbs.

Yeah, I love the barbs. I love that she was in the Barbie movie, the soundtrack, her song. That was great. She deserves. Yeah. My boyfriend's a barb and I'm not a hardcore barb, but again, love Nicki. Yeah. I love her Kmart collection. I wore it on Good. Yeah, yeah. I love her Kmart collection.

I weren't on Good Morning America. I was obsessed with her Kmart collection. Yeah. Oh, yes. The pink head? The bottle. Oh my God. Is that even still?

I love that. I don't think so, but she should bring it back. Celebrity perfumes were everything for a minute. Like the Lady Gaga one, I am not. What are the Gaga head called? Like a Gaga head? Monsters. The Monsters.

Why would they call themselves that? She made that up. Oh my God. Okay, Monsters. We would they call themselves that? Oh my god, okay. Monsters. We were just talking about that too in the glam. Someone went to go see her on some tour and it was like kind of like a little demonic. But she was like talking to God and like, I don't know.

Even if you're not religious, why do you gotta like mock religion? You know what I mean? I don't know. Any other religion would not be cool. I feel like it's just Christianity and this is coming from someone who's just like, I love all religions, but it's like, why do people don't mock it? And I get like Christians can be cringy. But like, why do it's like, you know? Yeah.

Now I get it. Especially on stage. Like, but you love her. Are you a monster? No, I'm not. Again, like, I like her. Yeah. I don't know.

I guess I'm very selective about what I hyper fixate on weirdly. Like, I can like things, but I don't love – I love very select things. Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo. That's it. As far as music. Yeah. How can you hyperfixate on Olivia Rodrigo if she only has like three songs? She has one album and one song off her new album.

I think it's 14 songs total I want to say right now. Oh my gosh. And you're already hyperfixated. Since Driver's License. It's like the only song I listen to. You know, not my vibe. I don't know. I can't.

It's like my team is very select. I don't know. It was such a weird song to go viral. Like, I mean, it's fine. I'm not I'm not I'm not talented at singing, but I'm just like, what? I'm maybe I'm again. I mean, you really do get old to some point where you're just like, what is this music? Like, I don't know.

I can't tell you like a new current song where I'm like, that's a bop. Really? I love the idol because Jocelyn song World Class Dinner. Cause I'm a freak. I can't tell you like a new current song where I'm like, that's a bop. Really? That's why I love the Idol. Because Jocelyn's song, World Class Dinner. Because I'm a freak, yeah. I get it. Because I do love, I understand that era of pop that you, that you love. You know what I mean? That's old, that I grew up in.

Where I'm like, I love like Instinct, like Lance. I'm like, oh, these are so good. Yeah. I don't, even like One Direction, I was like, I don't get it. I was a Directioner, but I think it was just because I was gay. Do you still? No. You don't love Harry?

Because people love Harry. I loved Harry. Like I was a – I used to be like one of those people who like went around trying to find him in LA. Oh my God. What's his fan's name? That's a good question. I don't know what his fans are called. Wasn't it like Heronators?

Heronators? Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what they were called but did you go to his shows last year in la when everyone went only the only that first time he went on tour i did see him when i still haven't seen him this last time no i really liked him in um don't worry darling i wish we had the podcast when don't worry darling came out because that would have been a

fun well we can go back to the 2019 or whatever came out let's do a retrospect retrospective. Yeah. See, I'm so behind on everything. We just watched it for the first time like a couple months ago. I was like, let's watch this. That is so funny. He was so good in it. I know. I have so many questions for Shia LaBeouf. I want him on the podcast too.

He's canceled speaking of. Oh, is he? Oh my God. Yeah. He was so good. He played Potter St. Pio. He was so good. Wait, what?

Okay. That's a whole other thing. Yeah. See, everybody is canceled. There's not one person we can get on that's not canceled. Yeah. So when it comes to the Doja Cat thing, where do you stand on it though i'm gonna be on the fan side too you know but i get doja's part too especially you're like oh my god this doesn't even have anything to do with me like why are you guys bringing this up like he's obviously not this person anymore like i totally get that the guy

like apologize whatever all the stuff like that so it is annoying but i do get what the fans are coming from because even with me sometimes like i have to like step back especially when people say stuff about whatever anything my weight whatever it is because they're like genuinely just concerned but like in the moment you could be like oh my god stop talking about my weight and then some people are genuinely like I just want you to be healthy sometimes but yeah so I get it but yeah I'm always gonna go on the fan side I think yeah agreed I lean towards the fan side but I do sympathize a bit or at least understand Doja's perspective I I think. Yeah,

like setting a boundary and I get that. Yeah, sometimes it's better to go the Taylor Swift route and just not say anything because it's like, it really doesn't pertain. I didn't even hear

about the situation. I had no idea. Now it's a thing, you know. But an artist who is doing the opposite right now of Doja is Lana Del Rey.

Oh my gosh, yes. Who is serving very Trish vibes, I think. I got tagged in this a lot. I got tagged in this a lot i got tagged in this so what is this is so is she cosplaying or is she working at the waffle house she was just spotted work like actually had a name card and everything so she was really like working for a day do you

think it's a promo music video commercial i genuinely genuinely think she just wanted to do it no there's no way someone had to be filming it or something for tiktok like i mean i'd love to do it but i'm gonna do a tiktok out of it because she's not very social media-y like she doesn't really do stunts she's shockingly like normal for someone who is so big she is like so she was doing she went and worked at walthouse for the day she sang amazing grace with an old fellow who was eating who was eating didn't see that one. Yeah, it was like it went viral on TikTok because she just sang

Amazing Grace with this elderly man. It was very sweet. She was making friends with the staff. Did she work at the Waffle House at one point?

She's like going back to work there again? No, not anyone. Everyone's very confused about it. I have a feeling this is going to come out on like TikTok or be part of a viral campaign

or something. I have a feeling. I don't know. She's just so normal. I mean, do you know? She might have gotten paid to do it though you know what i mean well she has a so some fans are theorizing because she has she does have a lyric in her song where she talks about um going back to florence alabama and that's where she was working in the waffle house so maybe she music video there was something too but she's she was also just sharing a vape with a fan in the parking lot so right and

there was no cameras around nothing no except for the fans recording on their phones and she was getting her nails done in a random nail shop i mean love that because that's the same but i don't know i feel like there has to be something more because as much as i would love to just go work at raising canes like i didn't get paid to do it but like i still want to like film it and like be in pictures because if you are such a fan of waffle house you want to work there don't get paid to do it. But like I still want to like film it and like be in pictures. Because if you are such a fan of Waffle House and you want to work there, don't you want to get pictures and like post that you're there because you love it so much? Like when I did Domino's, no one paid me. No one gave me free stuff.

But I love to show that I'm a Domino's like enthusiast, you know? But she just never like posts on social media. So it's like it's just so random. Yeah. Yeah. But she's. She just does it. I will say one of my someone i know who like interviewed her

recently she was like oh by the by the way like my boyfriend's like also a golfer or whatever and literally this was she it was at the billboard award uh billboard women in music and she literally she wasn't even supposed to do press and her publicist was trying to like push her down the carpet and she was like oh my god i'm going to the golf club in burbank later today maybe you should come meet me there. A girl that she just met. Like literally a lady she just met. I think she's just like this. She's just very sweet.

Just very sweet. Open. I know nothing about her. Did you see when she met Alicia Marie? No. Oh, yes. Yes. Okay.

It was the same event. Yes. So I think she's just like. And she was like, I love you and Remy and Ali. And I was like, cool. Work. Whatever. As a YouTuber, got a shout out like that. And they're also very niche. I love them. I mean, they're huge. I love their was like, cool. Whatever, as a YouTuber gotten a shout out like that and they're also very niche.

I love them. I mean, they're huge. I love their podcast, Pretty Basic, whatever, but it's also kind of a little niche-y.

They're very lifestyle. They're like Mr. Beast. Right. They're like lifestyle vloggers and you're like, oh, this is so random. Yeah.

And Ali too, who I love, but also like, it's a very niche thing. You have to know who Ali is. It's almost like Strawberry knowing you. Yeah,

you have to really watch and know, like see every vlog basically to know like everything about her. Oh my God, that's, yeah, that's everything. I get get that then she's kind of just like a normal like a normal person but it's just so funny that it became such a huge viral thing and because

she's worth 30 million dollars so she doesn't have to like is that a lot or not a lot i think that's i mean that's a lot right but you hear something like uh selena gomez being like a billion dollars and taylor swift a billion like she lana like she literally just writes music and that's all she does you know she doesn't perform anymore she does concerts and stuff like she's she's doing festivals right now okay um but it's not like she has like a makeup brand or a clothing brand or she makes 30 million just off her music yeah no i mean it's a lot it's just so like surreal that she it's a very trisha thing to do i think yeah okay i love that yeah i've been i've been linked to lana del rey a couple times i when i did um lately like my video titles from

like old videos have gone viral favorite meme yeah zach sang told me about this on his show i had no idea what he was talking about i was like what and i guess people are saying they're like lana del rey album covers or something yes because your blog and video titles are just very long and specific and uh is that what hers are? Yeah. I think her last one was, did you know that there was a tunnel under Ocean Boulevard? So it's very long.

And like, yeah, it's not like a. Mine was like eating buttered noodles on a veranda. Yeah. And I was like, okay, that's why I love X. I love all these social media things because I think they're so funny. They go viral because it started on X. And I was like, okay, I love this. Also, do you love that I'm saying X now?

I know. It took me by, like, the first time you said it, it took me a second. I was like, oh, okay. Trish is going for a walk. We're Twitter heads over here. And now X, formerly known as Twitter. Yeah, I kind of love it. Although, I don't know if I should love it.

I guess it's a conservative. I didn't know this. I was like, it's a conservative platform. And I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I think it depends. I mean, not for I guess it's a conservative. I didn't know this. I was like, it's a conservative platform. And I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I think it depends. I mean, not for my Twitter. Not my ex. Mine is just silly.

Oh, you're on it then. You just don't look. Because I sent you a tweet. And you're like, oh, I don't like to look at Twitter. Oh, yeah. I mean, I look at my For You page. And I look at who I follow. But I don't look at like, I don't seek out things, if that makes sense.

Or look at my own notifications. I never look at my own stuff. I have to be in a boring mood to look at my own notifications. I never look at my own stuff. I have to be like in a boring mood to look at it because I get some bad ones too. But the For You page is what saved X I think. I feel like that. Because it used to just be people you followed. Not that they show you stuff you don't follow. Like I only go on that page. I'm like oh like stuff you

might be interested in. Yeah. I kind of live for it. Also here's a reminder to eat today. I met someone in the parking lot at the Barbie movie on Monday and she was like, you helped me so much with my ED and like, thank you because because of you, whenever you do your mukbangs, I remind myself to eat because she goes, sometimes I don't want to eat after a binge. And I was like, please eat today. I, you know what? Me too. Sometimes I know

so many people, this is like a different thing completely, but I know so many people who are just like, don't eat. Like they, you know, I know someone now currently who's trying to lose weight and she's like, I just haven't eaten in the past couple days and i'm like oh just eat i know how hard it is but like just eat because otherwise your body could fail you can mess up your metabolism there's you could be sad you could lose your energy just you know have a have something to eat i also just really love food i'm kind of at this point where i'm just i just love food we go on our walks we try and do better i try to have a salad we still have a salad last night and then i had bolognese because i was like i had a horrible lunch i had chicken fajitas that were just like

the worst chicken fajitas yeah so um because I plan out our dinners because I have like issues with food so I like plan out our dinners for the weekend was like oh I thought we were gonna do because I was like I'm gonna do more but I'm gonna do salads before so I'm like you know nice and tight and then I was like I'm hungry we didn't have a good lunch I'm like let's do bolognese and my husband made me bolognese last night it was so good it was amazing yeah you have to I am I'm like the same if you have a disappointing meal beforehand you cut and like you were looking forward to a good meal. Well, we go out for lunch every day.

That's like our thing and then we usually cook dinner or like I'll like have something little for dinner like a salad. So I was like, okay, we're going to go out for lunch. It's going to be cute. Yeah, it wasn't cute. Yeah. I couldn't even eat it. I literally spit it out. I took one bite of it and I spit it out, which is crazy.

How do you mess with chicken pitas? I love chicken pitas. I've never had a bad one. This was the worst one ever. I spit it out. It was like the rib meat and the gristle. Like that was it. There was no chicken breast. There was nothing. There was no, it was the weirdest thing. So then you deserved, you deserved a good spaghetti. Spaghetti and meat sauce. It was so good. It was on my Instagram. Check it out. Should I pay this

back up? I kind of want to talk about the Streamy Award nominations because I think it's kind of funny. So random. Because I love to talk about YouTube stuff with you and I feel like people like getting your take on YouTube stuff because you've just been on YouTube stuff with you and I feel like people like getting your take on YouTube stuff because you've just been on YouTube for so long and it's like the worst take on YouTube though because I am kind of a YouTube hater because I just feel like so shocked by YouTube yeah that's why it's kind of funny YouTube hates me I don't know why I love YouTube um I've never been acknowledged by YouTube and it's funny because I'd like the streaming war like it's kind of like I don't know it's kind of it's like the Oscars of YouTube right

but it's also like so silly right so it's like like it's kind of like – I don't know. It's kind of – it's like the Oscars of YouTube, right? But it's also like so silly. Right. So it's like – and it's just funny now because I don't recognize a lot of the people who are nominated. I don't know anybody. Yeah. Like – Even when I went – I went one year to the Streaming Awards. It was like 2018.

It was when I was part of like the whole like Unlock Squad or whatever. And I was like – and I went with them. And I was like – I literally knew nobody there. I was like, what is this? Like this is the most – and it's like at the Hilton. And it's like this random thing. And it's like even when I was included in it for that segment, I was just like, what is this? Like, this is the most – and it's like at the Hilton and it's like this random thing and it's like – even when I was included in it for that segment, I was just like, this is so weird.

It's wild. It's definitely wild. It's like very – Because people on social media take themselves so seriously like that. I just can't. I just can't. You know? I don't know.

I want to read you some of the nominees just to see if you know them. Okay. Because I think it'll be funny. I love it. It's entertaining. Okay. And by all these people, congratulations, by the way. I've never been nominated for a steamy – yeah. Steamy or streamy or what is it? Okay. Because I think it'll be funny. I love it. It's entertaining. Okay. And by all these people, congratulations, by the way. Yeah.

I've never been nominated for a steamy. Yeah. Steamy or streamy or what is it? Streamy. Okay. Got it.

Got it. So Mr. Beast, obviously, is the most nominated. Right. But he is like a machine, right? And I tweeted this and everyone came for me,

but he has like, it's a corporation behind him, right? Yeah. So this is some kind of tea, not really, but a little bit. I, like last year, interviewed for a job

with Mr. Beast. I didn't get to him, but I interviewed like to work for him and a job with Mr. Beast. I didn't get to him, but I interviewed, like, to work for him, and I would have had to move to North Carolina and live on the compound. No. Compound era again with Oprah. I would have been on the Mr. Beast compound. Like, they hook you up.

Like, they give you, I think, a townhouse or something, and you live, like. No. Yeah, and that's where they all. It's, like, kind of cult-y. It feels like a weird, like, movie. I don't know. I think that's just where he's based yeah and that's like kind of culty it feels like a weird like i don't know i think that's just where he's based and that's just i guess where his whole team is like located i guess it may be like don't worry darling where it's like you can't come back to the real world like um i don't know it was it was kind of it was an odd you didn't get it or you just didn't want it i didn't get i mean i kind of didn't want it in the first place but i wanted

to interview because i'm like that seems cool to interview for like Mr. Beast. Right. But you never met him. No, I just did the first round of interviews and it was the worst interview I've ever – like I remember being so upset after it because I'm like, this was a terrible interview. What was bad? It was just very untraditional where instead of – I didn't really know what the job was. Like I got – they found me on LinkedIn and like asked me to apply. Oh, okay.

Interesting. was like I got they found me on LinkedIn and like asked me to apply oh okay interesting and then but and it was like a role that they just a role they just created to make content like produces content but I didn't know anything about the role and then all of a sudden like in the beginning of the interview they just put me in these like hypothetical situations and they and were asking me what I would do but I didn't know anything that was going it was very weird what was the hypothetical situation like what was the one I remember was okay the um it was like Mr. Beast and two other guys you're in a Vegas

you're in a Vegas hotel and you're eating um like $10,000 worth of food and you have to eat the chef says you have to come in at this time to film but the guys are out at a hotel uh partying in a pool or something and you're texting them trying to get them um to come but they're not responding what would you do and I was like oh this isn't even like a video this is like a

scenario if you're trying to get a hold of mr beast yeah like to get him to come to the do the to do the shoot or something and they and they had the answer that they already had the there was a correct answer what did you say i was like well i was like okay well i would just try to find them to i mean well if the chef says we have to shoot at this time then i'm gonna go find them and make sure we're here by this specific time like i was like so they're not answering my texts and she's like no they're not answering your text i was like okay so i'm gonna go and i'm gonna go look for them in the casino i'm gonna find them and tell them come on we gotta go shoot and she's like no but like the chef says we got the food we can do blah blah blah and i was like okay it's like do you want

the answer i was like yeah that's the correct answer say the chef can the chef can do any time so you can just wait whenever they come up we can shoot whenever the guys are ready to shoot i know i'm like well the it's like ten thousand dollars worth of food is gonna go to wait i was so stressed and it was like it wasn't even a real situation that's not good and it was like three scenarios like that and i got all of them wrong and at the end i was like i knew i bombed at that point i was like so what is it like like working here it was wild and you said that yeah and what do they say don't ask she was like explaining it sounded like a cool it's like it's not for everyone it certainly wasn't for me so you know i think it's gonna be like a beast head to work there like yeah i think so too

and i mean he's like you said a machine he's doing great like insane content over there but it seems it seems gnarly but he gets canceled sometimes too i remember i saw like a cake like a toilet cake you remember that scandal yeah then like he he kind of had someone like pitch it or make it or something and then he ended up going with someone else and like didn't pay them or something and like but i showed you how to construct it but i guess when you're that big like you can't really everyone gets canceled at something for some reason. That's what I'm saying, too. But – Yeah. Oh, interesting. So very interesting.

Okay. What is his category? Just – So he's – He's, like, creator of the year in, like, a million other categories, like, Feastables and all that stuff, too. Which I remember there was a TikToker who reviewed his candy. Is that what it is?

The Feastables candy? Or is it a food? It's, like – It's candy and food. There was, like, a chocolate bar. He has chocolate. He has cookies. Okay.

And this TikToker was with him and gave him an honest review and was like, this is not really – it's okay. And he was like pissed about it. He was like, wait, what? And he's like, I know he wanted me to give him like a good review, but the chocolate was just average. Yeah. Canceled again.

Canceled again. Okay. Yeah, Mr. Beast. I have no opinion on him, but like I mean I love that he is so – I think anyone who's huge is like that's amazing. Especially he gets insane amount of views. I don't watch him myself. Right.

Like it's not for me but. Probably for kids or something right? Like shout out to him and everyone who watches him. Yes. And the compound. So one of the breakout creator nominees is Octopus Lover 8. Do you know him? What?

Oh you know? I thought you did. Oh you know? I thought you were being silly. I only found out about him recently. Octopus Lover 8? Yeah. It sounds like an AIM name.

I like it. He's a TikToker? He's a comedian on TikToker. Yeah. What's his shtick? Oh, is he the good looking one with the teeth? I don't think so. He's on Wild N' Out?

No. He's young. Well, that guy's young. I mean, he'd like just collab. I only know him because he collabed with Olivia Rodrigo. Oh, my gosh. All rows lead back with Olivia Rodrigo. Oh, my gosh. All rows lead back to Olivia Rodrigo and Taylor Swift. Yes, or the idol.

Yeah, with you. If they were on the idol, I don't know them. The other breakout creator nominees are Alex Earl. Love Alex Earl. Love Alex Earl. Yes. She's everything. Oh, Drew – I don't know how to pronounce her last name.

Afulo? Afulo. yes she's everything um oh drew uh i don't know how to pronounce her last name afu afulo she i know she has a podcast with her sister and she's very funny what does she do she does like beauty lifestyle on tiktok but then she also has a podcast where she just talks about like things with her makeup girly um i mean alexa doesn't make up girly too right is she or she like lifestyle i think maybe like i think maybe drew is also lifestyle okay love that we love a lifestyle tiktoker i think mulvaney she's great obsessed with her and everything about her and great keith lee is the tiktoker food reviewer i love keith lee he's the one that did the mr b's he is huge he has his own chipotle chipotle meal like he's so huge he's so he seems so humble like i love keith lee so you knew pretty much all the breakout – TikTokers.

I kept Octopus Lover. I need to find him. He's the only one. Yeah. Wow. Interesting. Who's going to win? Well, it shouldn't be Mr. Beast.

He shouldn't be breakout. No, Mr. Beast is not breakout. He just has the most nominations. Oh, okay. I got that he was in that category. I was like, that's not fair. Ooh, I would say Keith Lee or – Or Dylan.

Dylan. Yeah. She's had a big year. She's had a big year. She's had a big year. But also she was like pretty popular. I mean she was like – Yeah. I didn't really think of her as a breakout creator but –

Yeah. I feel like she's been in the industry. Yeah. But she hasn't been everywhere. I love her. The host is MatPat. Do you know MatPat? No.

Oh. Who's MatPat? That's just a theory. A game theory. Do you know him? I only know because he was on Escape the Night and then that's why I went from there. Oh, okay. Escape the Night Breakout.

I went backwards from there. Escape the Night alum. Wait. How do you know? Were you working on that show? No. I just watched. Not that.

You're a stan. And then that's – I didn't know MatPat before that. But he was already big before Escape the Night. MatPat? I've never heard of him. He's a commentary channel. So I'm not surprised. How is MatPat on Escape the Night and I never was asked?

I'm just, do you know what I mean? Like there's like a disconnect there somewhere. It's fine. It's fine. But Matt Pat, the person who hosted last year was like also like a random Mr. Beast person. It was like very random. Oh, yeah. Arak. Arak. He asked me to be a part of his videos recently. Oh. And it was like

should I say it? I don't know. I guess it doesn't matter. Who cares? It was such a weird thing. So it was like a prank. Do you know him? Do you know Arak? Yeah, only because of the streamings last year. I didn't know that he was the host of that. I mean, I guess I did when someone told me, but I didn't. Oh, I only knew because he told me after all this. He's like, oh, like no hard feelings, by the way. I was like, oh, I didn't even know you.

Whatever. I didn't put the two together. But he had DM'd me. And, you know, on DM, you can see like based on the most followers who DMs you. So he had a lot of followers. And then I went to his page. I was like, oh, he does like gets a lot of views. And I was like, maybe. So he's like, yeah, I want you to be part of my prank.

I'm like, okay, this could be fun. This could get into a new generation or whatever. And it was – I just had Malibu. It was like three months postpartum. And he's like, yeah, basically we want you to like bring Malibu and like, we're going to have a babysitter and the babysitter is going to watch the baby. And then you're going to take the baby and like prank the babysitter. And I was like, that sounds really traumatic for everybody involved. I was like, maybe not. So I was just like, oh, actually no. But I mean, it was, it was, I guess it's just like a guy with

no kids who thinks that way, but it was very weird. It was very random. And then he told me, then he's like, oh, okay. By by the way no hard feelings from those streamies or whatever it was and i was like oh okay so i don't know that was my interaction with him that was it but i thought oh it's like a mr beast and i was super excited to like clap and i was just like maybe not with my newborn thing yeah that's like that seems very like bro i just i don't like pranks i don't like pranks anyways even if it was just me I think it's just like weird yeah uh but he's nominated for creative of the year wow yeah he's popular maybe like young kids or something again I don't know I never get that I always love like the like traditional celebrities who get nominated for a streamy like this year it's Hailey Bieber

the Jonas Brothers Kate Hudson Lily Lily Reinhart Camt camila mendez madeline patch from all from everdale and paris hilton okay paris should win because she's like social media she is like yeah like people i know people who work with her like the girl who does all my bling up she uh like paris just dms her directly and they talk on like center voicemails and stuff like that i remember the last time when it was the one you went to she was there oh like 2018 or something yeah 2018 yeah she was there with kim petras okay love that yeah i was weird with the mainstream people like are they gonna show up i mean paris would but like kate hudson what is she nominated for that's a good i think she's just uh so random yeah they have like a category for like celebrities who do like sofia

richie is also nominated for something random too i I'm surprised she's not on there over Hailey Bieber because I think she's the new it girl. The new style girl. Mikaela Nogueira. Is that how you pronounce her last name? I don't know how you pronounce her last name but I love Mikaela. Me too. She could go by just Mikaela. She honestly should just drop.

Yeah. Because it is hard to. Yeah. So she is nominated for creator of the year and also beauty which I thought was kind of fierce because she had that whole. Yeah. Her translation is so silly. Yeah.

People really were trying to cancel her though for that. And again, she was, she didn't, she didn't say anything about it. No. You see the power. She just came back like,

I'm here. The power of ignoring things. I think when it comes to like something like mascara, you could ignore it. Yeah. Some things you shouldn't ignore, but like that. Yeah.

Again, like no real victims really, you know, so. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, that's like on the same level as like when Joey like blocked her driveway

and everyone was trying to cancel him. Yeah. Like, oh my God, you blocked someone's driveway. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like certain things are so silly, but Mikaela is iconic. She had makeup by Mario and Chris Appleton. Do you know who they are?

Yes, of course. Okay, Kardashians, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like literally Kim Kardashian's like main glam squad. Like that was insane. I was like, girl, I got invited to her wedding. Did you really?

Did I talk about this? Yes. I got invited to her wedding. Literally, she asked me for my address to an invite and then um literally she followed up with me like did you get an invite it's like no like i mean i would have like responded or whatever and then she sent me the invite like you know over uh text or whatever and i will we almost worth considering going this past july but you had to get like we had to go on like two different planes to get there because it was in like it was like one i don't know and so i think i think your location was out there Rhode Island and so like you had to go to like these whatever so but I also thought in my head I was thinking oh it's like an influencer wedding so

it's gonna be like it like a thousand influencers um and then when I saw the wedding and there was a lot of influencers but maybe like a handful there wasn't as many as I thought so I was like man I should have gone I was a very Michaela I love you I was super honored um just logistics with like Malibu and also that was at a weird time this summer. Like there was a lot going on. So, but I was so excited. I love her. I think she's great.

I love that she talks about everything. I think she's amazing. She's so pretty. She does great makeup. Yeah, pretty fierce. I love, but it's just crazy too that she's like, I love that she's in creative of the year category because when you're in the same category as Mr. Beast, like that is pretty crazy.

I think she's up there with him. If I, I mean, just like an outside perspective, like she's pretty massive. She has all these collabs with Elf Cosmetics. Like I sent her a DM to be like, do you want to be on my podcast? I haven't heard back. But I was sending out so many DMs after our last episode. I was feeling on top of the world. I'm like, let me send one to this person and this person.

And I actually heard back from some people. Some people in the aisle wrote back to me. And they're like after the strike. And I was like, okay, great. I was shocked. I was like, wait, what? Like I was feeling very confident. Oh was feeling very confident yeah we do have a guest coming up by the way but yeah that i love michaela i think she's i think she's great yeah her her scandal was so silly to me it was funny it was a fun time i always love like a silly scandal like that though like it's

just kind of like it's kind of entertaining to me i think like l'oreal like should have paid for that like maybe they paid for that because that – I remember it was – you tried to find the frigging mascara. It sold out. I think it went everywhere. I even bought two. I started – like everyone was wearing it. They had literally everybody in the community talking about it.

And then some people got so mad about it like, oh my god, this liar. They're wearing the falsie. And it's like – I mean probably. And it is – I don't know. I guess it could be considered false advertising or something. But it was still like – in the grand scheme of internet drama it was it was pretty and people bought it and yeah yeah it was okay it was a good mascara just kept it moving and that's what I love I love I heard she makes like allegedly I don't know she didn't tell me this information but like

it like 80 to 100,000 per tiktok oh like for a sponsorship she's been sponsored by loria all these things like I never made that in my life like that's insane she does like move product is what obviously of course which that's the true mark of an influencer I don't think I've ever moved product like even my own product I don't think anyone's I've tried food because you've tried it really well that's I know why am I not getting sponsored by this this is the product I could try I know a lot of influencers that we know that like don't even eat fast food and they get sponsored by fast food I was like this is so true yeah but you're always on the cutting edge of a new like fast food product.

Oh, I'm on it. There's times where I'll be like, oh, like I should tell Trisha about it. And you've already freaking uploaded. Yeah, after this, I have to literally go to Wendy's. The Frastacino just came out and it's like, I'm on it.

I want to get it so quickly. Apparently, I missed the strawberry biscuit at Popeyes. I'm usually on it. I love it. That's my ish. You know, I went to like 4 McDonald's looking for that cookies and cream pie and it was worth it.

See, that's why instead of the Streamys, I want to have the for that cookies and cream pie and it was worth it. See, that's why instead of the streamies I want to have the Trishies one time and it's just like every category is you. Let's do it. Yeah.

Trishies. Oh wait, every category is me like I win all the categories? Yeah. It's just like your different videos. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, we can have the Trishies. I'll be here to accept. I would love to do the Trishies. That sounds really narcissistic but I think it'd be fun. I think it'd be so. We'll do it. We already talked about

how we're going to decorate the set for Halloween. Michael's has hot pink pumpkins so I bought some'd be fun. I think it'd be so – We'll do it. We already talked about how we're going to decorate this up for Halloween. Michael's has hot pink pumpkins, so I bought some hot pink pumpkins. I love that you're already planning. We'll switch it up. Yeah. Yeah, I plan ahead. I mean, hopefully we make it past three episodes. You know what I mean?

This is episode number two, so – So far, so good. Yeah, so far, so good. We love Jess Trish and Oscar and Moses. Asterisk, asterisk. Asterisk, asterisk. Okay. Do you have any other stories before we get into the VF one?

Oh, let's see here. I literally wrote – sometimes I don't even know what I wrote. I literally wrote, accept all cookies. Oh, I think maybe that's like when it says accept all cookies, like when you go to a website. I don't know what I was going to talk about with that. I don't know. Why did I write talk about with that. I don't know. Why did I write that down? That's going to be the title.

Exactly. I don't know. Other than it pops up all the time, I guess. I don't know what I was going to say on that. You probably just wanted to say how annoyed that every time you open a website, you have to hit accept all cookies. Maybe, because it is annoying. Lately, it's been like that.

Yeah, every time you go to a website. I love cookies. Moses doesn't like cookies. I love cookies. because this happened to me when i was researching a topic every website i go to except all cookies i wonder if you went through a similar journey and as you were looking up something else well i never said except all cookies i never i never said that you see the pop-up oh every website i go to says that now like shopping anything it says except all cookies why that's a good question you know no i moses is unmuting him he's ready he's ready to spill what's what's a cookie they basically place information on your computer they're saving their information you know how you go off to a website and it knows where you were yeah so they basically keep track of everything you do you know know, you go on Google and you see that

you've been on this website before. And it saves things for you. Save your login. Save your password. Oh, that's accepting all the cookies. Yeah. But, you know, they save more than that. And if you say don't, don't allow the cookies, then they... Then you just have to re-login. You have to... Basically, you're not giving

them your cookies. Oh. Sounds dirty giving them your cookies sounds dirty maybe controversial but I'm giving my cookies away me too except all cookies the big story of the past week that you were kind of involved in a little bit

I hate when I'm involved in anything please don't involve me you're hardly involved did you see the whole Vanity Fair article drama with Adam McIntyre okay

so like obviously it's like it's so it's so much I didn't see it no I didn't I saw people talking about it I saw like titles

I didn't like the whole thing is like super triggering from the beginning like there's just so much that I like didn't say haven't say like you know it's just a lot i figured it would be kind of complicated you'd have complicated feelings about it i looked at the article and i honestly because everyone was making such a big deal about it that i was like how crazy could it be yeah and i like

i'm someone with like a journalism background like i went to school for it i work in it and i was pretty gagged at the article because it was so was so focused on avoiding blame and stuff and it was so focused on making adam like the scapegoat for all the recent like colleen drama and that's what i was like mostly interested in like i was mostly interested in why like how this article came to be and why it was so extreme and pointing all the blame on adam who was only like a fraction of everything that happened a very fraction i feel like yeah because there's so many people who have shared like their stories and experiences and it was weird the article kind of overlooked it so i was like i think putting my experience out there i was like okay obviously with some kind of overlooked it. So I was like putting my experience out there. I was like, okay, obviously it was some kind of favor.

Like in journalism, especially entertainment, like you do favors for celebrity teams and stuff. Oh, that does happen. Yeah, like there's PR. If you know them. Yeah, like you can do stuff as like a favor article, like write up something small about celebrities, like a little event or something. Right. Or cover something good that they did as like a relationship kind of thing because it's all about relationships right but it's very interesting to me that they covered the colleen drama and not only did they cover it and like be

very much like on her side and minimize everything else but then they also the article also like came after like rolling stone and huffington post like almost like making fun of uh their exposes that they did okay so what's the title of this article first like what's the title do you know it was like everything you need to know about the miranda sings drama or something like that let me pull up the exact title though okay hmm interesting choice of words how the miranda sings colleen ballinger scandal went off the rails. Everything you need to know about the drama tearing YouTube apart. Which was very, yeah. Calling it drama, saying tearing YouTube apart. I don't think we're torn apart on this.

That's pretty much what everyone has said. Yeah. It hasn't really torn YouTube apart. And the, I mean, like I said, the article seems very like PR. It's very odd. They name Adam by name the only person they name in besides colleen the whole thing is adam um by his name by his adam mcintyre they specifically full name they call him um a whistleblower who frequently posted new videos and racking up hundreds of hundreds of

thousands of views commenting on the Colleen drama. Oh my God. And then meanwhile, Ballinger continued to work on her own YouTube channel that was wholesome lifestyle content about her kids. So that paragraph alone kind of juxtaposes the two sides, right? Okay. Like the reason I don't like talk about this as much or even like read into it,

it's like this topic is super triggering and it's not like because I knew Colleen personally like it has nothing to do. It's like I it's like something I like don't talk about a lot but I've like dealt with this myself. Like I've been fans of people when I was like younger and underage. And I'm talking personal now personally for me. Fans of people where I really do feel that I was like manipulated. I feel like I was – it changed my perspective. And again, just talking solely based on me, like I've had pornographic images shown to me. And this is something completely different, but just shown to me when I was like younger

and I really think it like set off this like discourse in life that was like really like traumatic for me. But aside from that, like again, it was like it was a power dynamic, whatever. And I'm not saying this with Colleen and Adam because the reason I don't look into it much is it's very triggering. But hearing that, this is so hard to talk about. The whistleblower thing, calling someone that is a lot. You know what I mean?

Because no matter how you look at the situation, Adam was a minor. Adam was a fan of somebody and he was made to feel some type of way. You know what I mean? He feels like he was manipulated. He came out the story. And it's like to diminish it, I guess, it's that and just call him like a whistleblower to make it seem like it's for attention or something is like really ick on Vanity Fair's part you know what I mean yeah I'm in the same boat as you like that's why I was because Kong the drama aside like it's the whole article to me was like super it was very

interesting and just very odd because legally there's also i mean i have studied a little bit of i'm not a lawyer i've studied a little bit of journalism law but the author like never reached out for a comment from adam especially adam because he mentioned my name but not anyone else involved wait what isn't that like journalism 101 is to like get a side to at least make an attempt you know like you don't have to get it per se but you have to you usually have to at least make that time when i've done art when i've talked about people they're like we're gonna reach out to them for comment you know because you have to get oh that's crazy it's very very odd i need to say one

more disclaimer real quick before we move forward it's like i do have to say a disclaimer is like a lot of people are like okay you didn't say anything until I involved you. And it's like, you know, for a minute I wasn't looking at anything. And then also me and Adam, like, you know, he always says like Trisha had me blocked and stuff like that. And it's like, I blocked him for something completely unrelated. It had nothing to do with this. Like something unrelated, you know, I, he had replied to Pop Crave and say, it's like

the spawn of Satan about like my, when anyone else has pregnant or something. So like, that is why I blocked him. And so we have our own issues. Obviously he doesn't like a lot of the stuff I do. Like he just doesn't like me and that's totally fine. And like, obviously I don't want to see negativity about me, especially during my pregnancy. So I just blocked him. That's it. But in this situation, I a hundred percent have nothing but like sympathy and empathy and like support for Adam in this situation, because it's just, it's just very clear cut what everything was. She was the adult. He was the minor with the

underwear, with everything like that, like the editing out of the video like I support him fully um you know and like I do think people can make mistakes and like you should hold people accountable get canceled and like hopefully learn from them and like take accountability so I support him 100% but the reason I didn't get into it is because of this whatever like this our past I just like I don't know you know I don't know this this person whatever but hearing now hearing all the stuff that did happen and seeing everything that did what I didn't know. You know, I don't know this person, whatever. But hearing now, hearing all the stuff that did happen and seeing everything that did, what I didn't know about the underwear stuff. I didn't know about a lot of this stuff.

I didn't know about any of this stuff. Okay. Anyways, this is the whole thing. We can go to it because it's an article. But I get so like heated about this because like, you know, you can not like Adam think he's whatever, like, you know, he's done drama and stuff like that. But like, this is like, this is the, this is what's so annoying is like when someone, like his job is a YouTuber.

And so he makes YouTube videos about this. And it's like, because he was a victim, it's like all of a sudden he's like this But like, this is like, this is the, this is what's so annoying is like when someone, like his job is a YouTuber. And so he makes YouTube videos about this. And it's like, because he was a victim, it's like all of a sudden he's like this, like, oh, now he's a whistleblower. It's like, no, like, this is like, he finally has some support. Like someone came out and said, hey, this is what she said to me to break you down. Like, he's like, I feel validated. And I know that feeling, you know, I didn't know any of this in 2020. I didn't keep up with any of it. I knew nothing about it. And it just like, wasn't my place as anything. I didn't know any of this in 2020 i didn't keep up with any of it i knew nothing about it and um it just like wasn't my place anything i didn't know enough about the situation to say anything i think in general back to the doja cat thing you know when people like her friend should say something it's like it's not anyone else's responsibility but hers you know what i mean and like it's a sticky situation you distance yourself do whatever if people don't

distance themselves then you can judge them for that but it's a whole situation and it's a very like legal situation too there's like a minor. And it's a very like legal situation too. There's like a minor involved. There's all this stuff like that. Like that's why when my stuff got involved, I had to say something because I was like, I need to make a hard stance. Like this is, I don't support it. This is not okay. Like I stand with victims. I'm a sex worker. This is not okay. This should never be, especially to minors as someone who has sent nude images as a minor and like not sent, but shown them. Like when I was shown porn at an early age, it affected my whole life, my discourse my whole sexuality my whole everything

it's it was it's it's really really bad so and even any any sort of even if it's not like a sexual thing like any sort of anything you know talking about a sex life with people like anything like that is just I think crossing the line anyways you can I do just get so upset about it no I know sorry I didn't mean to bring i just thought it was like yeah especially because there is a part in the article where it alludes to you but doesn't mention you by name which again is very weird that the only person they mention is adam um they mention they allude so they said mcintyre and another former fan have alleged that ballinger sent them nude photos from a sex worker posting unverified, if troubling, text messages as proof. Wait, unverified?

What are you, what are they saying? They're saying that the screenshot, like, Colleen did not verify that those were her screenshots, basically. But it's literally, like, her friend, like, next to it. Like, who else is sending that? I get it. That's why the word, like, the wording in this whole article is just so odd.

And how are you going to not name my name, call me a sex worker? Like, not name my name call me a sex worker like not name my name but your name adam mcdire who is does not have the same sort of like numbers yeah same platform same anything um who's also the minor at the time the fan at the time all this stuff like that but you're not gonna mention like anyone else's name yeah the whole i'm like very mystified by how this thing this whole piece came to be obviously there's stuff behind the scenes with like probably the author um I'm sure it's clicking well for them so I think that's why they haven't taken it down despite a lot of like drama even like on the Vanity Fair

tweet um and it's with the publication's Twitter it's just like automatic they Twitter like automatically publishes whatever gets published to the website so um there was a community note or x sorry there was a community note on the x we're rebranding that even like clarified um saying the inaccuracies in the article so it's all very very odd the author even like blocked Adam on social media when Adam tried to reach out so the whole thing is so confusing to me. What? Especially just because like,

like I said, from a journalist background. It's Vanity Fair. This isn't Business Insider. No offense. What like, you know what I mean? Like even they reach out.

Yeah. Like any publication I've ever worked at. I mean, it just, I don't see how that would pass anywhere else. So that's why I'm like so mystified by it because it's so like blatantly one-sided like there's no real attempt to like you know show all sides of a very complex story yeah they're framing it as like it's this complex thing tearing you know it's torn people are torn about it then like show both sides of why people are torn like you're

showing this one side and almost like an attack on like adam which i just think regardless of your opinions and i get i didn't say what the tweet to like care any character assessment. And I'm just saying my personal relationship with him, he doesn't like me. He's like, whatever. You know what I mean? But again, with this situation, like how are you not, how are you not on the side of this minor, like in this like power dynamic situation that like, whatever, you know what, who, who it was like proven, right? Proven that it was like manipulated and all that stuff like that. And like attack. It's just, ah, it's so weird. I'm so like perplexed by all this. And when did this article come out?

It came out last week. So it was pretty recent. It's also weirdly like spaced out from everything that's happened. It's like dying down. Yeah. Which, you know, for people who are like really affected by this, you know, it's kind of like it does become like anything, you know, just like people just forget about things and move on which you know maybe shouldn't be the case for everything but also like this article coming out now when it's like has died down and

there's maybe not so much support for adam as there was or like people just moved on from it like it's unlike anything i've ever seen and have one line of it be like oh and she's not a sex worker is new so what was the exact line and then suing weeks ballinger would be accused of everything from a beyonce song in blackface to texting a sex workers nudes to a minor ballinger's legal team has denied she performed in blackface saying she was wearing green face paint for a prior cover of a song from wicked well it was confirmed she sent them she sent me an apology on that saturday after made the video. I made the video July 3rd and then she sent me an apology on like Saturday, July like 8th or 9th. And she's like, yeah, I was a coward. I lied to you. Like I should have just told you the truth when you asked me about the photos. Like I was a coward and that was it. So she like apologized

for it. So she's like, she definitely sent them to that guy. They're not denying that she sent them. They're denying the black face, which was green face or whatever, um, in the, in the show, but they're not denying the thing. So I have to say allegedly, I guess for like legal reasons, because like we haven't seen them from Adam. Of course, I believe Adam, because it has been verified that she sent him to Johnny from her, herself. She said, I apologize, which I don't know if she should be apologizing to me. really. She should probably be apologizing to these people or, you know, the victims and stuff like that. But if it was verified that she sent them, it is verified that she was sending them to him, obviously we could tell by the text and stuff like that. Then I believe Adam, of course,

not outsourcing again, allegedly, but sending nudes to a minor allegedly is like so beyond like disgusting. Like it's so disgusting that like I don't know how this is not bigger because this isn't like something that's just like okay a couple jokes or whatever like that which is still disgusting with kids but like you did that like that's so not like imagine if it was a man talking about men and women like imagine if that was a guy doing that to like a 14 year old girl do you know what I mean like it's actually so insane and again as a sex worker as someone who like has been through that exact experience, like it's so like disgusting, traumatizing on so many levels. Like I think Adam can make a thousand videos on it for about it and it would be justified.

You know what I mean? Because it is. And then to have everyone now publicly shame you back in 2020 when it happened, but now Vanity Fair calling only you out and no one else out is actually like so insane. I haven't read the article. I should probably read the article, I guess. But like there should be like legal grounds for him or something because isn't that like, I don't know, like slander. I don't know. I don't know what they're saying.

I guess they're saying they're just recapping the story. But oh man. Yeah, I think she might need – she should do a real statement. Like a real statement and stuff because I think – I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Regardless, this stuff isn't helping anyone's situation, this article. If that was the goal is to help anyone's – I don't think it did.

I think it just raises more questions than anything else. Helped absolutely no one. Helped no one. And whether they know Colleen or don't. Yeah. Triggered a lot of people. It's so true. It's why I like really don't like watch this stuff because it's like so upsetting and I

think that's crazy. I don't like it. Me either. And I'm sorry we ended on that note, y'all. That is – I don't know. I feel like there's like so much to say about this situation and it's just one of those things where it's just – when you're a fan of somebody, no matter any age, but when you're a fan of someone and that person that you admire like takes advantage in any

sort of way or manipulates in any sort of way or manipulates in any sort of way. Like it's, it's, it's hard to come in with the words. It's like so awful. And it's like, it's like not your fault. And if you're a minor and, you know, I also get the point of like, you know, someone was criticizing the other, the guy that got sent the text message, Johnny, he's criticizing him for like making fun of me back.

But it's like when you're, when you idolize someone, it's like in, they're doing the, like, of course you're going to be in on it too. Especially like Adam, I'm sure when he's younger, I'm sure he partaked in it, whatever. He's, I think he said it too. Cause he's like, I apologize. It's like, you don't need to apologize to me. Like I get it. Like you're also, you're a child. Like you don't need to apologize for like whatever, you know? Um, but I, God, I wish there was just more that could be done about, you know, about that stuff in general. Because, like, show – I don't know. You guys, this is just Trish.

And we'll try and keep it lighthearted next time. Well, next week we can tease our Taylor Swift. I mean, either a lot of people will tune in or a lot of people will be tuning out. No, I will say – I mean, maybe it's because my FYP is very biased but a lot of people were very excited for your um swifty journey wait really i haven't seen anything about taylor's anywhere on my tiktok see we live in very different bubbles but i can't confirm as far as like the i'm very involved in the you know swifty community are you on like a swifty reddit occasionally but only for like research purposes when it comes to like getting tickets or something like that okay okay, okay, okay, yeah.

But, yeah, everything – I've seen everyone's very excited for your journey into Swiftiedom. And I'm excited to lead you. We haven't shown the cosplay yet. I think it's kind of niche. I think it's kind of niche. I think you're not going to know what it's from. I hope mine fits. We'll see.

Oh, did you make it? Did you order it? I ordered it, yeah. I looked for the exact pieces she was wearing, but it was, like, so long ago. And it was, like, designer pieces. And I was like, oh, let me just get like that. I'm so excited to see. I wonder what era. Oh my God.

I'm so excited. Yeah. I'm super excited too. I'm super excited to learn about it. And then the week after we have our first guest, which I'm not going to say. Yep. I'm really excited. And a lot of people have been tagging this person on my TikTok and like they are our

first guest, which I'm super excited. And we have more guests lined up and they're going to just, I feel like we have a really good like flow and really good guests coming up. So I'm super excited. And anyone you guys want to see, let us know. Yeah. I'll DM them. I have no shame.

I'll DM everybody. Like you want to come on back. I was shocked that people responded and like, yeah, I will. I was like, okay. So anybody you guys want to see, let us know. And yeah, this has been just – oh, wait. I was going to kick and I got caught in my friends. This is such a cute outfit, but I'm sure it does not – that one.

It is just trash. And Oscar and Moses. And we will see you next week for our Eras Tour show. Episode journey. Bye.