Just Trish - Rebecca Black On FRIDAY Becoming a Gay Anthem & Her Pop Girl Evolution

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

Rebecca Black has come a long way from "Friday". Nearly 14 years after dropping her viral hit, Rebecca joins Trisha to discuss her evolution into a pop hitmaker. The release of Rebecca's album is now February 27, 2025 due to the ongoing wildfires in Los Angeles. This was filmed before the fire started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yay! Hello! Welcome back to the Just Trish Podcast. In 2025, everyone, our first guest is... Oh my god! Yes, first guest in 2025. YouTube viral sensation at the age of 13, and now at age 27, she is a rave princess about to take over. You're going to save Pop Music 2025. Thank you.

Rebecca Black. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. It's an honor. It's genuinely an honor. This is crazy. Can I swear? You can swear. You can say whatever. This is crazy for me.

Like, I was just about to tell you, but I thought I would save it for this. Oh, my God, yeah. You have been in my life without knowing me literally for, like, 13 years. Wow. Like, I was there early, early, early investor in Trisha Paytas. Wow. 13 years. That's wild I remember you were like

living by the beach maybe and you were doing like your fast talking videos you were doing like beauty tutorials that's really it was oh I have I've never laughed wait so you were like a teenager then yes yes Blondesome Doll for MJ I was early I. I don't even know how. I like, I've been, I've been a YouTube, like, even like regardless of my own YouTube thing, like I've just always loved YouTube. You've always loved YouTube. Before Friday, you were like into YouTube. Oh yeah. I was like making like little videos with my dad. I had all these little channels. Oh, that's so cute. And I would, they're all gone. I wish I could get them back. Wait, why? did you delete them I deleted them because

so I had like my own little channel where I'd make like music videos and little like sketches with my dad's like webcam oh my gosh and then I remember I got my like first comment and it was like I could tell it was like an older man's account and I got so scared and I deleted everything oh you hit instantly I mean how old were you I was probably like 11 yeah yeah I'd be scared too I think any comments back then were you uploading it yourself too at 11? Oh yeah. Yeah. Becca one, two, two, three, three, three, four, four, four, four. That was my username. You went by Becca. Yeah. My parents call me Becca. Oh my God. That's actually so cute. When did you change professionally to Rebecca at 13? Um, they honestly, yeah, I like, I've always had a lot of nicknames.

My parents named me to be named Becca, but they're the only people who have ever called me that that's so funny when people do that i'm like why don't you just call you becca then you don't even have to have it shortened i know i know now like a lot of people call me rb i like rb like i don't even i can't even think of any people who call me rebecca in my personal life i love rbby's. That sounds so DJ, which I know you are. It's very cool. And when you texted me, you're like, it's Arby's. I love it. I call myself Arby's now. That's cute. It's cool. It kind of sounds like Barbie or I just went to Arby's today

and had cheese sticks. It's cute. I love anything that is like, I love Arby's for that reason. I love anything with those initials. They're around. Are you an Arby's girl? My dad loved Arby's. So we would like once around are you an arby's girl i my dad loved arby's okay so we would like once a month go to arby's and get whatever whatever the sandwich is called which one roast beef they have a fish sandwich it doesn't it isn't there like a name for the

the one like roast beef i don't know i actually haven't had there is i have you know what i go and i get mozzarella sticks and cheese fries so i never eat a sandwich so i don't know really yeah i do love arby's but never know the sandwich yeah there is one like a sandwich. So I don't know. Really? Yeah. I do love Arby's, but never know the sandwich. Yeah. There is one, like a French dip or I don't know, one of those things. Something, whatever it's called. The super whatever. I don't know. There's a super at Arby's? I don't know.

I fully just made that up. No, I love it. It's whatever the roast beef sandwich is with like sauce. I don't know. Do you like roast beef sandwiches? I do. I don't know if I got into them. Because it just has a weird texture.

It's Arby's. I don't know. Oh, right. Roast beef. No, I just, I love, I do. I don't know if I got into them. It's RV. It's RV. I don't know. Oh, right. Roast beef. No, I just, I love, I do love like, I love meat. I love steak. I love. Do you? Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, interesting. It's interesting. First of all, I love talking about, I'm sorry, I just like literally went, I wouldn't say a binge because I'm like healthy about it, but I went and I had Raising Cane's and then I went to Krispy Kremes and then I went to

Arby's and I documented it all on my TikTok. So I just, because it's later in the day. This is one o'clock. Usually we film, sometimes like Hot Topics we film at 10. So I eat before and I'm just like, what if I get hungry? So I was like, let me just eat everything right now. Yeah. Yeah.

No. Oh, I like stopped at Erewhon on my way here. I was like, let me just snack. The one in Calabasas? No. The one where I'm at. And like my side of town is over snack the one in Calabasas no the one where I'm at and like my side of town is over like but the Calabasas one is crazy I love an air one I do too I like I know I'm sounding really LA but I love it no it's like not overrated either it's like

good it's just like there's always so many lines and I just like sometimes waiting in line is like a lot it is I got really lucky today because I like really wanted to be on time. But I was like literally like speeding down the 101, like scarfing my chicken tenders. Oh, did you get the, is it like the yellow ones? What are those? Do you get the sauce? I never eat sauce. That's right.

I knew that. No, but I literally knew that. What's the sauce that comes with it? It's like the tender. It's like a pink sauce. You have to ask for it though. They won't give it to you. Do you have to pay extra?

No. Oh, well that's good. I know. I know. What is your RB smoothie at Air One if you had your own? Oh, whoa. If you had a great one. I'm like literally a slut for like peanut butter chocolate. Anything. So it would have to be something with that which I don't even think they have which is great definitely not everything is always just like way and blue and all that stuff I do like the blue one yeah it's great but I love like what literally I'm just gonna test it like four times

a week I have a peanut butter chocolate love from Jamba Juice have you ever had that no it's so good I used to love peanut butter chocolate yeah no I anytime I'm at like a smoothie place I will be getting peanut butter chocolate ice cream peanut butter I'm a huge like sweets queen

yeah same it's so good just gets you like excited and comforted and all that anyways there's more exciting you should do mukbangs

because now that I know you're a foodie just hit me up why are you not eating on camera at your air wand just be like having those chicken

I thought about it I thought about it because it's also so exciting to get your food and if you have no one if you're eating by yourself anyways totally totally that's the issue though is like i turn on like you i'm listening to you i like listening to other people like i don't want to like think when i'm eating you know well maybe for like a minute you could just turn on your tiktok i could do i could do a mukbang mukbang era just a little one i don't really do them on youtube anymore but i love a little tiktok have you seen that girl um

father kelse have you seen her mukbangs oh yes yeah she's like been popping up a lot she's like been also in my kind of like outside oh she's been around yeah she's friends with like stassi baby and all them yeah yes which like i kind of know through mutual people and I love her TikToks. She eats the best looking food in LA. I don't know if I've seen them. They're awesome. Because she just sits and like chills and like eats in silence. Oh, in silence.

That's even better. Not like full in silence, but she's just like by herself. Like not like talking about random stuff all the time. Okay. I kind of love that. It's even more relaxing because it is a lot of work sometimes to be like, okay, what are we talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. I can't imagine doing like hour long mukbangs or anything like that. Mukbang? Mukbang? I don't really know either. That was the route I went, but I miss them. No, they're good. I feel

like they are making come back, but you started not just your dad's still doing YouTube. Cause didn't you say you were doing videos with him? was like helping me he was helping him he was not in them no my dad is like the most like iowan like types on a keyboard man is he from iowa he's from iowa yeah i'm from illinois we love a midwest yes yeah grew up iowa illinois and uh and he's like a veterinarian. My parents are veterinarians. So no. OK. No nepo baby here. Because it seems like you would be when I look at – and we won't harp on Friday. But let me tell you my intro to you, which literally was Friday, which was 2011. I remember so vividly.

And if you Google our names together – maybe not anymore. But at one point, if you Google our names, there was the top 10 worst songs of 2011. Wow. And your song was number one. Awesome. And my song, and I was so happy to make it, was like number nine. And I made the song. Wait, what song?

It was called Kiss Kiss. It got taken down because I didn't have people sign over like waivers to appear in the video. So people got embarrassed because it got, back then it did pretty well. It was like three million views in like a month. So I remember like someone got embarrassed to be in the video and they like filed a privacy complaint and it got taken down. But I remember like someone got embarrassed to be in the video and they like filed a privacy complaint and got taken down. But I did the song because of your Friday. I couldn't have been more jealous of someone's virality.

I was like, oh, I was so envious. Everyone was talking, like every person was talking about you in 2011. And I was so jealous. I was like, I need to make a song. I need to make a song that's, because Friday's not bad. But like in my opinion, like, okay, what's a bad song or whatever you wanted to like hit that I yeah I mean it it did there were a lot of like Friday agains afterwards which was so fascinating because I was like guys what no you don't want it I promise not this well I mean I don't know if I

could have articulated this at the time and I if I would go back, I wouldn't change anything about Friday or anything. I mean, I can't even take credit for like making the song like I didn't write it. But at the time, I would have like I just wanted people to take me seriously. Oh, really? You know? Well, I just didn't know. I didn't even know that was what I really wanted to do. Like I love to perform. I was a huge theater kid. I thought I would know that was what I really wanted to do. Like I love to perform.

I was a huge theater kid. I thought I would like move to New York and be on Broadway. Like that was my goal as a 13 year old. That was just kind of like an experiment that like went awry. Do you think it was? Cause in my mind, I was like, that couldn't have been better. Like I would have loved, I wasn't 13, I'm 10 years older than you. So like 23, I was like, wow, I'm so jealous of that success. But as a 13 year old, are you like, well, my career is over. No one's gonna take me seriously. I was definitely, I was really scared. I think most of, I don't think I knew how scared I was, but my world just like opened

up. Like I went from being just a like middle schooler with, you know, my little friends and being my kind of bubble of an Orange County kid and then I just didn't know like I was like a fan of YouTube I was a fan of like Justin Bieber and like all the things happening then I wasn't ready for that then but looking back obviously like it's made me who I am and it's taught me so much and I don't think I would make the music I do now if it weren't for that. Really? You think? Cause I do find there's people like, for instance, my husband, he was like, Oh no, Rebecca's black music is so good. But like,

maybe wasn't familiar with your Friday. Like kind of didn't put two and two together. You know what I mean? Cause it's been such a long span and you're such a different person. Like look, artist, everything that I feel like people might be like, wait, that's the same person, you know? Totally. Totally. And now it's like when I play Friday at my shows or in a DJ set, it's like the best part of the night. Like people have so excited. They have so much fun. And like, it's become this like symbol for, I think where we've all grown into and we've all grown into these versions of ourselves. We like a little more, but yeah, I mean, I just was being like, like I had my first pimple in the

Friday video like I really yes it was like smack down looks like a mole it was a pimple blemish like blurt out it's there promise look again it's right there um and like I just what you know I just was not I went to Forever 21 and like picked out my outfit for the video like the day before with my mom. Like it was not. That's so cute. There was no nepotism. You had no idea. Happening to guide me.

No, no, no, no. But they try to replicate that art music factory, try to replicate it with other people. So they probably were excited. They probably were like, well, this was great. There was so, there was so much kind of that came after that, that, you know, I just kind of watched from afar with, with everyone in the world. Like, and you know, it's, I'm just like, good, good luck. If you had a 13 year old daughter, would you, and she's like, I want to make a music video. Would you be like, okay, let's do it. So it's so I, so I have like a nine year old sister

right now. So feels kind of similar. Or like what I'd imagine to feel somewhat similar. And she like loves to – she's so creative and loves to sing and loves to dance and is like an amazing painter. And to me as like her sister, and I think about it as how my mom was. Like my mom didn't necessarily have the means to like give us everything we wanted but she tried so hard like every time and Friday was like an example of that I mean it was just like this could go on your resume and could take you where you want to go and like go do that who am I to say no if you are a kid who like knows what you want to do. Yeah. And, um, yeah, so I don't, I mean, the internet has changed so much now and I

watch, you know, kind of the new generation of influencers and like girls who are just the Charlies and the Addisons and ever, like everyone has just a completely different experience to what I had. So a lot of times I feel like I can't even relate to that. And I don't know what I would do if I had a daughter, but I'd have to think that I would allow her to follow whatever creative exploration she wanted to do. Especially at that young of age to know you want to perform is very cool. Cause Oh my. And like I performing has been my life ever since I was like three and doing dance recitals. And like that, I – performing has been my life ever since I was, like, three and doing dance recitals. And, like, that gave me so much, like, love for life as a kid, you know, and identity.

You're like, this is it. This is what I'm doing. It's like what I – yeah. And I didn't know if I would do it for the rest of my life. I had a good feeling. But then, obviously, like, everything happened. And it just made it all mean so much more to me, you know? And then I had something to prove and yeah. Well, that's a lot of things. Cause in my opinion,

it's like such a big hit. You have 167 million views. It's like, how do you even follow that up? Like you can't. Totally. Totally. And you're like in an industry where everyone wants to do that. The next thing. Yeah. And so I, I have had so many insane experiences with people I've worked with and like managers and agents and, you know, all of that of people who have tried to, you know, kind of what's the word I'm looking for? Bottle it? Yeah. Yeah. And just kind of like squeeze everything out of it without really. Yeah.

Without really looking at me as like a 13 year old then and like, OK, what do we do for her as like a person who is still a child? And your parents probably didn't know if they're both vets from Iowa. They had no idea. And they were like, you really still want to do this? Are you kidding? And you did. So after all that, you were still like, okay, I'm still going for it. You didn't want to hide.

Yeah. I mean, my like teenage years were kind of funny and I that was where I met a lot of people like in the YouTube space and I kind of fell into that world and that was really fun for me and I met so many like lifelong friends through kind of like the early days of the internet and all of that but um I knew as I graduated high school like my parents were like okay what you doing about college? And I was like, I think I'm going to move to LA actually. And they were like, don't do that. Wait, really? They just, I mean, they're, they come from like a traditional, like educational background. So they're like, but how do you, how do you expect to succeed in something if you're

not going to school for it? And I was basically, long story short, just kind of like, you got to dress me. Sorry. But like, I got to do this. I'm going to like really give myself a shot and learn how to write and figure it out. No idea what I'm going to do. But I need to try for myself on my own terms. And so, yeah, I moved up. And that age.

I mean, I do think that's the age I always thought, well, school's always there, which you can always go back to school at 25, 30. But like 18 is a nice like sweet spot. Any more you can do any age you want, but that's like a nice sweet spot to be in the entertainment industry. Yeah. Yeah. And I think like it's so funny because I've been doing it at that point and kind of in

and out of the industry at that point for like five years. I felt so old. I felt like my time was like running out as an 18 year old. And I felt that so much throughout my early twenties too. Yeah. That's interesting. What made you feel this, like the pressure of like society, like of the social media? Was it like your managers or just you internally? It was definitely certain people I worked with who I don't think realized like really what they were doing or what the things they were saying would mean.

Also just like comparison. Like you watch constantly as a kid who's been doing this for a while, like people just shoot up in a moment and you can't help but compare yourself. And like I've had this conversation with other girls in pop music. It's like even if someone is like a year younger than you and they're at your level, you can't help because you're kind of like bred as a girl in this industry to compare yourself to like who is younger and who's doing it better and who is here

where you should be. So it's taken me a long time to be comfortable in my age. Even being 27, I'm like, yeah, I'm so old. But I'm so young. I feel young for the first time ever. No, I feel that way too. I'm 36 and I'm like, I still feel young because it's like in my head. But like you said, it's hard not to compare. I mean, even like, I don't know, four years ago, I remember when Addison and Charlie were coming up and I was, I was like jealous of them. I was like, gosh, I wish that was me. Even though like they were 18 or 17 and I was like 32. And I was like, yeah, you just feel that because you are like, wait, I'm not going to be

that age anymore. It's so sad. Yeah. And I don't think that like the internet realizes how they sometimes play into that too. Like people are always saying things about everyone and to everyone and comparing people without even maybe realizing it. And I don't know like I I feel like something happened when I turned maybe like 26 and definitely this year for me was a big year and like you know what I need to stop I think because I had started so young I was pretending like I was so much I wanted to be seen as so much older and so much more mature and like you know like I had everything together and this year I was like never mind actually I'm regressing and that's gonna be good and honestly I think for the first time I've like felt my age in a way where I'm like 27 I have no I still have no idea what the hell is going on yeah I'm trying it out no one really knows 36 too I'm the same way I don't know

where I'm going but we'll figure it out you know well and honestly i have to say it like being such you being like such a poor an important part of my life for so long i've watched you be reborn so many times and that has been so inspiring to me because i i think that like as one is as girls and as women and just as anybody in this industry like there is no i did you do you watch Demi Moore's speech at the Golden Globes? So, yeah, it's that is the that is the the essence of what I want my life to be, you know, is to constantly feel like because that's that's the truth. Yes, there's no rules, even though we we think there are. We think there are. But there is this like, yeah, that's like truth. Yes. There's no rules, even though we think there are. We think there are. But there is this like, yeah, this like renaissance now. I'm the same way.

I look up to like older women like Jennifer Coolidge or Pamela Anderson getting nominated at Demi Moore. And you're just like, or Gene Hacks won or Gene Smart won for Hacks at 72. And I was like, ah, it's like it just, it is inspirational. Because I always thought too, like 30, you're just dead. Like you might as well not even try anymore. So, but now I'm like, wow, I'm so young. I have so much left. You know what I mean? So yeah I mean so yeah it is yeah I love I love watching people too that and influencers are weird because there's not really an influencer like older than me so it's

like hard to see but it is a weird thing because you do you can like at some point age out if you don't like age your age you know what I mean like yeah I think there was a time when a lot of like youtubers that were like 30 were trying to be like 18 you know it was like the Miss Glamorazzi who I love I don't know what she's doing now but like it was like the Miss Glamorazzi like all those people were trying to feel so young because they thought you know their audience want to age with them and it's like so sad I know when in reality like you always have I feel like so so much of my audience has changed over the years but like there have been people who have been with me from the beginning and like we're all now in our 20s or maybe they're, you know, around my age.

And I think that that's the best part about influencers and people who have been around in culture for a while is you can see the way that their life continues to evolve and learn and hopefully like you're growing with them. Otherwise, yeah, if you're pretending to be younger. It doesn't work. It, like, stops. I think today someone was talking about David O'Brick, like, making a return to vlogging.

And I'm like, is he going to just, like, vlog his, like, friends like he did when he was 18? I don't know. Like, he doesn't – it doesn't really translate unless you, like, you just, like you said, grow up with the creator. Which is, like, it is cool to see. Especially you because everyone knows you at 13, which I can't even imagine being a creator that young because it's really just like you lived your whole life on the internet like do you remember time before social media or did you just always have it I mean I remember being like 11 and getting my face first Facebook account when I was I was definitely you definitely not supposed to do that. But I kind of, I don't know.

I mean, definitely when I was a kid, I think my parents did a good job of keeping me out and doing things. And my brother and I were on so many activities and all of that, just constantly learning. But the internet has been a huge part of my life for more than half of it now. It's amazing. I remember life before the internet. I'm like, thank God the internet existed. What were you doing? What were you up to?

Nothing. I don't know. I was in Illinois. I'd just be like, how am I going to get famous? And this was before the internet. And I was just like, how do I get famous? And I was like, I guess I'll try reality shows. I was like, I don't know.

I was writing to celebrities. Oh, we have that in common. I was writing to celebrities. You were talking about this. I think it was in the Drew podcast. Oh, yeah. Writing Zac Efron at 10. Yes. I did this too. That's what was so crazy. So when you're saying, what did I do before the internet? I was looking at people's addresses and writing them

letters. And it worked. Sometimes I got responses like John Travolta wrote me back. Stop. Jay Moore wrote me back. Yeah. I think, yeah. They're just like, thank you for the note. And then they would send me like a headshot. That's so sweet. Yeah. And I loved it. I thought that was like my in. And I would send scripts to like Miramax but then they'd send it back like we can't take unsolicited work like I was definitely that person wow but you wrote to Zac Efron I did write to Zac Efron in the fourth grade and I sent my like fourth grade yearbook photo like retainer and all and I was like this is so awesome that they're just giving me his address like maybe I could go if I if I was brave enough I would have asked my parents like take me to P.O. Box 2745 and like think it was

his house. And I really thought that he would respond to me, too. I really did. He did not. No headshot or anything? No, no. I mean, maybe maybe I forgot to put a return address or something. Yeah, you. Yeah. It was called an S A S E, like a sign and stamped envelope and they would like return something to you. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. No, I never, I like my one celebrity experience I had as a kid was like Laura Dern sat on my flight. She was like the Jurassic Park. She like sat on your lap or something. I was like, wow, that's so cool. She was next to you on the plane? I mean, she was like in first class and I was in like row 36.

That was my one celeb experience. I love that you knew who she was. How old were you? I definitely did not. My dad was like, that's Laura Dern. You should get her to go sign your diary. And I was like, okay. Did you?

How old were you? Probably like eight. Oh, that's cute. When a kid comes up, you can't say no. You just are like, okay. And she signed it for you. She's nice. I love Laura Dern, though. She's kid comes up, you can't say no. You just are like, okay, absolutely. And she signed it for you. She's nice. She does. I love Laura Dern, though.

She's such an icon. She's fierce. She is, yeah, big ally of the gays. Is she not gay herself? Is she not getting, I have no idea. Oh, I haven't, she comes across that way a little bit. She does give, like, yeah. Especially in Jurassic Park, and I was giving, like, major gay energy.

Yes, but she had, like, gay people love her. She's one of those people oh where like gay people ride for her yeah she's iconic and you know sometimes when like it's like Britney Spears like you don't really know well you know why they're iconic but you're just always kind of like that's a random person to like you know Laura Dern but icon you know yeah she I don't there was such a there was she had like a year and like I want to say like 2018 or something like that where she was just out there I forget what was happening a resurgence but it was there was a resurgence I don't know what she was doing maybe a tv show or something there was something was happening something was happening

I love her someone will tell us what I didn't know she was such a legend but I love her she is she is a legend and you got to meet her I got to meet her that was your first celebrity experience that was like my only one and then obviously with with Friday, I like, you know, met people and stuff like that. What's the craziest celebrity experience in Friday or just in anything? In anything? Like what's the one where you're like either like so excited, like I can't believe this is happening. I love celebrities. So like meeting celebrities to me are like the best thing in the whole world.

I do. I love like pop and celebrity culture and all that too. I mean, honestly, one of the nicest people I ever met was Demi Lovato in like, I forget what, I was at a Katy Perry concert because I was doing some stuff like with kind of Katy around like last Friday night.

You were in the video. I was in the video and she like brought me out to perform at one of her shows. Wait, what did you perform? Friday. She would perform Friday at her shows. Your Friday? Yes Friday She had like a She would perform Friday At her shows Your Friday

Yes She had like a cover section Where she would do like A fake flute cover Of um Of uh Big Pimpin Wait that's

This is so random It's like a whole thing Where she would pretend To play the flute And then I think one time She accidentally messed up And then like people were like Oh this is not real

But then she would do An acoustic version of Friday I think at most of the shows Wow And so she brought me out for one and you sang with her I did and I was so scared um it was at the Nokia theater when I was at Nokia yeah and um I was so nervous and then afterwards there was kind of like a little after thing at the concert like in the whatever kind of club. I don't know what it was. But I met Demi Lovato.

And she was like the first person to ever like give me her phone number. Oh, my gosh. And she was like, call me anytime. Text me anytime. And she was so sweet, which at the time I was like Disney, you know. You loved her. It was everything. Yeah, because that was like my prime.

Like Camp Rock, Sunny with a Chance, I think is what it was called. Like all of that was my bread and butter. Did you text her? I did text her. And she never texted me back. Oh. You know what? It was honestly, that was enough.

That was enough. And I appreciate her so much for that. Yeah, the fact that she even like gave you her number is pretty cool actually I know and she I remember she put her phone or her name in my phone as Demi L which I was I felt so cool because I was like I know I know who it is I won't tell I promise I won't tell yeah you have like Demi vibes for sure you know I think especially now you have the bangs and so it's very sunny with a chance right now I I've gotten that before yes I love her I always think she gets like such a bad rap people just like love to hate on her she's fierce she's fierce I think she's so cool and

just like sweet and has so many I think people who are constantly like have these like iconic moments like there's like the mug thing the mug mug is great. Favorite dish. Like she just, I think that will always, history will always like treat those people well. Yeah. Because it's so fun and fierce. And she's like so talented.

Like I, like I said, I'm like a decade older than you so I think it was like a little after my time Demi came on the rise. But she's actually so talented. Like I didn't know that.

Like I know all the antics surrounding her like the frozen yogurt thing. Like I know that. But then I was like, wait, why don't people talk about like her vocals like she's actually so good and so talented insane and no one maybe people do and i'm just out of it but i'm like i never once heard people be like she's a great singer yeah i maybe i don't know the songs or anything but i just always hear about she's got good ones skyscraper yes that's what i know i need a skyscraper um stone cold it's like stone cold

it's wait sing more i love no no no no no no i love that you started singing because it's my favorite thing in the world i cannot sing a demi lovato song wait yes you can your voice is so good i'm setting myself up that's not so good. Listen, listen, I could see you covering Stone Cold and it would be incredible. Oh, if I knew what I was singing right now, I would love. It has like, honestly like Demi could have been a really good Elphaba to me. I'm surprised she's never done

Broadway. I know. Because she has like such, I wonder if she, you said you were a theater kid. Yeah, huge. Were you in plays growing up? I was, I was. I was Laurie in Oklahoma. I was in guys and dolls oh there did a lot of classics a lot of classics in Orange County oh I guess conservative down there they're like yeah yeah and then I did a lot of like random like I did camps do you did you ever know about like OSHA or that like it's the Orange County like theater school I was wanted

to go there so bad. Or the art school. Oh. But they have a huge theater program. And you went? I did like camps there and it was,

you would do like these musical theater shows with all different numbers from a bunch of different shows. Like a review or something? It was like its own like original kind of storyline

but then it would be surrounded by like all the iconic so we did like west side story and like all of the you know with a completely new plot yeah yeah yeah oh i kind of love so it's like a jukebox musical but with theater yes yeah basically did you perform like seeker storm or like are you where did you focus perform at um we would just do it there at like the at the school but um yeah I only really did like kind of school school stuff I was not cool enough to go out and do it you never tried Broadway I never did but I I would

I actually last year was like the first year that I kind of like restarted the conversation for maybe some something trying it yeah yeah like I would love to do like a Broadway version of showgirls or like something was that happening I don't think I don't know but I want it to do like a Broadway version of Showgirls or like something like that. Is that happening? I don't think. I don't know. But I want it to. If there was a Showgirls musical, I might explode. You didn't go to the bathroom. But if you go in there, it's just me as Nomi Malone everywhere.

I have like a thousand pictures. I made him dress up. Like I'm just like, we're doing it. Showgirls is. You would be insane in that. My awakening. That was everything. I think I'm too old now.

But. No. I could be like Crystal or something like that. You can be Nomi. I'll be Crystal. You would be a great Nomi. Would you ever do a role like that? Oh, absolutely.

Oh, my God. I see that for you because I remember when Elizabeth Berkley did it and everyone was like so shook. And I feel like that would be such a good role for you. Would you do the full like nudity and everything? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, just full. I think so.

I mean, I would be scared and I would I would have to prep but I do so much like nude nude adjacent stuff in my or I mean I'm topless in my uh album art so oh really okay so you don't have it yeah I like I love it well I have artistic big boobs so it's it has be, I kind of like hide them down. But a lot of times like nudity for me, I feel like there's a line where it's like not cute. It's just like mammary. Yeah, it's not annoying though. It's so annoying. But I'm trying to embrace it and I'm trying to, you know, be cool with it. You should fight against it.

That's my favorite thing to do because I don't understand why we can't be. I always say that, like why we can't be topless or with like a nipple showing. Everyone's like, oh my God, her nipple's showing. Delete it. And I'm fight against it that's my favorite thing to do because i don't understand why we can't be i always say that like why we can't be topless or with like a nipple showing everyone's like oh my god nipple showing delete it and i'm just like that's crazy like the top of my nipple but like a whole man totally like totally or if you've got like tiny little boobs it's like chic you know whereas for me i'm like my boobs are like down here if i'm when you have to like dress up too you can't wear like those open tops without looking i know i know but you know what i'm trying i hate wearing bras i've come to that point in my life where like i can't do it so i mean i'm not really doing it just brought me to i i'm the same way and

i just i like should and it probably would help my back and like probably looks better but i just i can't i can't i never even know anymore i never even know anymore. I never even know. So I'm just, I mean, that's why I'm just letting them hang. But for, like, shows and stuff, I need them, like, strapped down. What do you do? Because for shows, for me, I always try and, like, wear something just tight. Because I can't wear bras. Because also when you have big boobs, how do you find something that's not bubbling over? The straps aren't falling.

Like, I can't find a right bra. It's hard. Dressing for, I work with a stylist who, like, really knows my body now for anything I do, like, music videos or shows. But it's hard. Dressing for – I work with a stylist who, like, really knows my body now for anything I do, like, music videos or shows. But it's hard. Yeah. Like, especially I want to do something that looks crazy and I want to do something that's really fun and out there. But, like, this is, like – it needs to be, like, architectural in the sense where it, like, holds them in place. Otherwise, like, it will just hurt and be dangerous.

What's the secret then? I am like a corset girl through and through. Do you push them up then? I like one that like pushes them here and then kind of like squeezes in the way. Like I'm cool with like, I feel like if I have a tightness in the waist, it can almost like sit them up.

Does that make sense? Yeah. Like a shelf. And I like a thick strap make sense yeah like a shelf and i like it like a thick strap yeah i like a thick strap um and that that seems to do like as long as i'm like tight here i'll like wear nothing else you know like a like a bodysuit corset or something like a short when you find something that fits your boobs right you just want to make it like every color every size you're like honestly i like just keep giving. That's why I like the nude illusion because I love to have

no bra, but I love a nude illusion that can bring it up, but keep them together. I feel like I've been staring at your boobs. No, no, I can't stop with you. I was like, wait, you said that? I was like, wait, do you? Because I love big boobs. I do think it is a thing of the past, but I love them. Mine are fake. I've done them three times and I just love

huge boobs. But it is, like, not a thing people have anymore. But it is. And I, for so many years, have honestly, I love that this is what we're talking about on this podcast. I didn't know. I listen to all your podcasts, and every one time I hear this conversation, so I'm like, something new.

I'm like, if there's one place, it's here. I love it. This is the conversation. I never could have this with anybody. And honestly, like, there are so many of us out there. There is. Yes. What was that?

Oh, I've wanted reductions and I've almost gotten them so many times in my life. But honestly, I am at a point where now having big boobs is just like such a part of my like identity. I don't think I could. Like I don't know if I would like my bodies. I feel the same way. I always think, oh, I should get them out. Mine were always big. Mine were just, like, lopsided.

I had, like, a double D and, like, a B cup. So mine were just, like, crazy. Yeah. And they were always saggy. Even as, like, a 12-year-old, I had, like, the saggy pointed down boobs. I've got that. But, yeah, it would feel weird to not have them because I feel like they're such a part of my identity, too. Yeah.

I don't know. I've come full circle. So I don't know what I'll do with them but it would be nice to like not have to be like strapped down. Just wear. Yeah.

Because you dance a lot too on stage. Dance a lot. So when you dance and the boobs yeah you do have to kind of secure the boobs for sure.

But I've made I've made workarounds and like again like I feel like I've like found people and also like designers or things like that that I know know how to like work the body. Yeah.

It helps. Skims has been the only bra that like feels comfortable. Have you tried Skims? No, I've never tried Skims. They go humongous. They go to like 40 double GH. Wow. Are they comfortable?

Yes. Okay. Those are the only ones. There's like a body one that's like always sold out. It's like seamless and it's so comfortable. I'm like a 38 double G and it's just like so comfy but i have to try skin i mean it's as comfy as brocken because i am usually braless as well i get i get the shoulder in the back and then like here i just yeah no it's painful every every day i lay down i'm like oh my back but it's worth it but that's

so interesting yeah and as a performer too like having to like if you do broadway but that's why showgirls would be great i mean they had smaller boobs in that movie. That is true. But we could have a big boobs Nomi. Showgirls, Crystal, and Nomi just like floppy boobs. I mean, it's everything. It's camp. I don't know what I would do without my boobs.

And now, I also have really, I think for a long time, especially being a kid in the industry like so many people were so quick to be like can't wait till you turn 18 or you know say like that totally totally that's great because I would think right you like are not you weren't super sexual like in my opinion I guess I didn't think you were sexualized but the fact that people were on this like little like Friday song where you're like, you're covered up from what I remember. So it's like, what? Like people are so.

Yeah. People. I mean, I feel like certain people will just like grab onto anything. But for a while, I, as a kid, I think was always, I always wanted, that's probably why I started like not really like showing my boobs and things like that is I didn't want to be that but now I've I've become so comfortable and being like hyper feminine in moments where I want where I'm not like that all the time like I don't necessarily go to the grocery store like that yeah but in my music and in my videos like that is such an ownership of my own body um and also I know that like the people who really love it are like people who are not just purely sexualizing me yes and that's that's like that's everything to me now it's almost like a confidence

thing like seeing you embrace like a womanhood and just your body and who you are and yeah boobs and all you know what I mean natural boobs all that stuff like that people just yeah it feels good yeah I think it's beautiful and that's like what I love about pop too is it's all about like in a way it's like why I've been so inspired by drag over the years is it's like taking something that other people maybe wouldn't see in this way and like doing it to the biggest and like boldest extent. Yeah. That's really fun for me to tap into. Drag is like the perfect I think explanation when I always think about that too, because in my real life, I'm definitely not like hyper femme, but I love like performing and putting on the girly like outfit and just feeling like the boobs.

Yeah, in real life, I'm just like hiding everything and like kind of careless. I never wear makeup, none of that. Not to be like a pick me, but like. Me neither. Me neither. Never wear makeup. But I love like transforming, like getting hair and makeup done and just feeling that. Yeah.

Well, I think as someone who is probably like putting yourself out there as much as you makeup but I love like transforming like getting hair and makeup done and just feeling yeah well I think as someone who is probably like putting yourself out there as much as you do it also like allows you to like get go on and then go off yeah like it's made it a little bit less like um like I feel like I can tap into myself in a way that's not like like um tiring or totally like messes with my own head. And just putting all who you are as like a person just out there, you can kind of have like a little persona. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I definitely, I think that like something happens whenever I am making music, especially these days, where like I, whatever, there's like the version of myself that has her own tastes and loves and everything. And there is what I've like built as who is like Rebecca Black now. And I love that is me for sure. But it's a version of myself like I only get to really tap into when I'm on stage or like filming a music video or or anything like that.

Yeah. And that's just fun. That is really like creatively inspiring for me to have that you know oh yeah like this sort of like outlet yeah yeah what is Rebecca Black off stage not performing she is so normal I don't know like what are you doing um I today after this if what am I doing today um I'm gonna'm going to go pick up something on Facebook Marketplace. Oh, be careful, girl. That sounds scary.

I love it. You go by yourself? I love it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Girl. Like, I have, like, a friend away. Or I'll do it in, like, the daylight, you know? Also, like, my Facebook account isn't my name or anything.

Wait, wasn't that even worse? That's you show up and it's Rebecca Black. And, like, wait, I was talking to, like, Ginger. Like, what the hell? Well, I'm not showing my id or anything like that i don't know really i don't know how facebook works you don't show so you're just like hey i talked and here's this dragon yeah yeah and you're like here's money thank you yeah it's always weird it's always awkward and you're always like hi because i think also the people selling sometimes are like who is about to show up to my house? I'm giving you my address.

Or like, we're meeting by my place. They give out their address to their home? Sometimes. Yeah, I mean, it's convenient. I would just meet the airwander or something, girl. That is a smarter thing to do for sure. But I'm also like, hey, can I? Because, you know, I'm trying to like negotiate a good deal.

So I'm like, hey, can I do this? I'll come by today. Why don't you have like an agent or a friend or your mom or something do this? I don't have the bounds for that. And also like, I love, I don't know. I love, I love like adrenaline. I like to shop. I don't need people to know what I'm doing. Well, what are you picking up? Cause I guess you can say it now. Cause this won't air until next week. What are you picking up? Um, I'm, I'm like in a home like escapade little nester right now i'm big nester so it's like i'm just always looking for things i love helping other people like pick stuff out too like i love like thrifting and vintage really oh yeah yeah oh that takes

patience it does it does it does i'm a little bit of a baby like i like a curated you know situation but marketplace is like a dig so you just go on marketplace and you're just like what can i find an antique yeah yeah or like a like a i'll like realize i need like a table for here like an art here and you can kind of type in whatever and then the more that you type in what you want and like click on things and save things it'll like algorithmically give you more of what you want i see it's kind of like t kind of like TikTok. You just keep finding new stuff. It's very that. Yeah, it's very meta. Wow, you should be the spokesperson because now I want to go on Facebook Marketplace.

Facebook Marketplace. Not Facebook, but just Facebook Marketplace. I'm down. It's the second shout out you've given to Facebook meta. It's like, write you a check. You said you were on Facebook, the first social media you had. I swear I'm not sponsored. Sponsored by Meta. It's probably my least favorite platform. I should stop. I should stop saying it. You're the only one I know who loves a Facebook under the age of 40.

I like Marketplace. Marketplace. Everything else, I don't know how to use. That is very normal of you. And then what will you do for, like, dinner, entertainment tonight? I love, I mean, I, i like i love to be with my friends and like go out i love the movies i love to go walk around i love a dog like i don't know what do i do i like sit on tiktok you're very normal you're a normal girl normal girl with normal hobbies you go walk around the

reservoir I don't know wait do you oh my god that sounds scary too it's no you're so full of adventure you're like hang out by the reservoir it's like a place where people go like walk around and like you like meet a friend and go walk because it's kind of like a little it's like the most like wilderness you can get like in East LA. You've come across my life so many times. Like we were just talking about Greg, paper magazines. Did you meet him through paper?

No, I met Greg on Instagram. I like DM'd him in like 2020. And I like wanted to dye my hair blue. And so he dyed my hair blue. And he had like just moved to LA from New York. It was like a crazy little time and we've worked together he was doing lots of stuff in New York he did Vogue he was telling me he's doing all these crazy things he has done iconic stuff he's like doing a lot of Lisa Rinna

at the moment so fierce but yeah Greg Lennon is my he has I love him done so much for me I'm so grateful for him yeah yeah because we I met him on the paper shoot last year and then he like randomly again he's like I'm with Rebecca and then I just cause we I met him on the paper shoot last year and then he like randomly again he's like I'm with Rebecca Blatt I was like and then I just was like

I need to like reach out cause we talk about you a lot on here and I was just like oh my god I need to like reach out again and then you go and see the DM

oh she's DM'd me this is so great just for fun I was so excited no I'm I get so excited cause I'm like okay someone like

it's so scary to like cold message people yes cause you're just like they probably don't know me or don't like want to talk to me you know totally totally but whenever anyone does it to me scary to like cold message people. Yes. Because you're just like, they probably don't know me or don't like want to talk to me. Totally. Totally.

But whenever anyone does it to me, I'm like, hey. I get excited. I need to check in more because I never, my top request thing never works. No, I know. I know.

It's never in like full situation. So I can never see. So then when I saw it, I was just like, oh my God, this is so great. But you just did Paper Magazine, the cover. I did.

LA Icon. It was fun. LA, who knew? Oh my God, that was so great. But you just did Paper Magazine, the cover. I did. LA Icon. It was fun. LA, who knew? Oh my God, that was wild. How did that come about? You should have been there. I'm like, where were you? Didn't get the invite.

I know. But there was all icons. Terry Jo, Tana. You've done Paper. Like, you know, like a digital not cover. Justin Moran of Paper Magazine. If you don't get Trisha on a cover, you're stupid.

It's like Cher. It's like the biggest. Beyonce, I think, was on it. And then you. You deserve to be on that. If I'm on the cover of Paper, you deserve to be on that. You're LA icon for sure. How did you get it? What was the shoot like? It was very America's Next Top Model. Because there were all the different talent

were all there that day. And so there were like, it was the first time I Top Model. It was very, because there were all the different talent were like all there that day. And so there were like, it was the first time I've ever experienced anything like that. Like 20 different makeup chairs and like all the different hair. Greg was like the lead. And so he was kind of like,

you know, giving everyone tasks. And I was on the cover with Metta and Ricky Thompson, who I know Ricky. Ricky's been around for a minute. Forever. Yes. Forever. And like him and I have known each other through back in the day. Oh, that I know Ricky. Ricky's been around for a minute. Forever. Yes.

Forever. And like him and I have known each other through back in the day. Oh, that's cool then. That was really sweet to see him. And it was quick because they were like getting people in and out throughout the day. Like I think Tana was right after me. And so I missed a lot of people there. Are you shooting all together?

Like your cover, you said you had those three of you. It was like chunks. Yeah. So it was us three. And then the next one was like the next like four and then the next four and then the next four. It was wild. I've never done anything like that. You have an agent now or like someone's just DMing you?

I have an agent, a manager. They like help you get these things. Yes. I'm always fascinated how people get them because like people just DM me or email me and I was just like, oh, I wonder how people get stuff. It's kind of like that. Like some people will just straight up dm me and i'll be like the email's right there like i'm not the best i'm because i i don't know i don't know what to say or do um oh you don't like to handle it yourself i do like if it's like chill and it's like you

yes absolutely i'm like guys don't worry I got this I talked to you directly which I love by the way I like I do too I don't mind going through a manager but it's always a lot they always ask a million questions for sure you have the edit I'm just like that's so much for sure for sure and like I as I've gotten older I think I really like doing a lot more things myself because I was like no I can handle myself yeah you know and I'm like oh that's just too complicated yeah but um but sometimes I there's like logistical things or planning things that I just honestly am not like the person to talk to. For sure.

Need to ask for more money or accommodations or something. Whatever it is. But like, I think for people that I love and who are also like, you're so easy to schedule with. You were like, okay, great. This day I also like you're so easy to schedule with. You were like, okay, great. This day I was like, perfect. You were so great. I was going to follow up with you, but you're like tomorrow.

You're so on it. You were like literally you're supposed to be here at 1 and like 1 and 1. You're like I'm three minutes away. I'm like, girl, people show up at like 3. That's crazy. So that's what I'm saying. You're so good. No, I'm like it's in the Google calendar.

I'm there. That's how I like to be. That's how I forget to follow up with people sometimes. I'm like, well, if it's written, I'm just doing it. Like I forget. Me too. Me too. But then I'm like, I hope they remember. Yeah. No, it's good. It's good. Cause people like do forget like, well, you never confirmed. I'm like, well, I didn't know I was supposed to, but I should probably do that more often. But paper was huge. I was, cause that was just the end of last year. Yes. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's so. That was very fun. Well, what I was saying

before is we're in the same circles and And there was one YouTuber who I loved. I don't know where she is now. And maybe she's still killing it, was Emilia Farr. I love her so much. Oh, my God. And she would hang out with you when she'd come to town. Yes. And she said, I'm about to hang out with Rebecca Black and all the lesbians.

And I was like, I want to be there. I was so excited. You should have come. You were like the named one. She's like, I'm going to hang out with Rebecca Black. Oh, my God. And all the lesbians. And I was like, oh, my God.

I'm so excited. Oh, my God. What did you lesbians. And I was like, oh, my God. I'm so excited. Oh, my God. That was – what did you guys do? Hang out on my couch. That's – did you guys karaoke ever? I don't know if – I don't think we – unless I have horrible memories. I went to karaoke with her in Koreatown. That's fun.

And I think she was going to go see you afterwards. Wow. I was like, so – do you think she wants to come here? It was literally us in like a private room just singing. And I was like, oh, maybe she'd want to come here. She was everything. No, she would just come over in her, like, gorgeous garb. And, like, I remember I had, like, just gotten a puppy.

And she came over and just, like, played with my puppy for a while. Because we were friends, but also, like, she was closer friends with some of my other friends. I see. Okay. So I always felt like the lucky one, like, being invited because I thought she was really cool. But you don't keep in touch with her anymore? I don't know where she is. I mean, she actually popped up.

I feel like maybe she made something recently and I, like, saw her on my feed. I think, I know she was, like, in a relationship for a long time, which was, like, exciting. And she was, if you guys don't know, Amelia Fart was so great. She was, like, as a performance artist, right? Because, like, some people thought she was real. Huge performance. Well, I mean, I don't think anyone, I never knew. Like I don't think anyone knew. And that was like the true like artistry of her. Yeah. And still is, I think.

It is. It totally was. Cause I would like talk to her like in the downtime of like not filming, right? Like you're like driving the car or something and you're like, I'm still not sure if it's a character. And she's always lovely and always great. But I'm always just like, I wonder the real her. But I do love people who like don't let it like slip but she was so iconic um she had a tattoo of me on her thigh and I thought that was shut up yeah she came to one of my meet and greets and showed me in Toronto and she showed me and then I became obsessed with her is that how you guys met yeah wow and then we did a couple videos together we went to the Gucci store together and bought matching Gucci sunglasses went to karaoke

I think she was friends with Shane for a minute you were friends with shane for a minute i what like early early early days yeah how did that happen i'm always curious the shane connection i met uh i met shane at city walk in like 2011 he had because again like i was like a kid who was like a fan of like all of the YouTubers. Like Ryan Higa and Shane and like Ray William Johnson. The boys. Like Venetian Princess. I was super into her.

Where's she, Jodi? I love her. Did you know her? I didn't know her. I just loved her doing her womanizer parodies and stuff. I was jealous. I loved her. But like that wasodies and stuff. I was jealous. I loved her. But that was like my era of YouTube growing up.

Wow. And so at the time, Shane and I met at the random, I think literally he randomly happened to be there. I was there for some random show that I was doing with Grace and Chance and Cody Simpson. This was a long, long time ago. It was very iconic. Very iconic. That's such a headline.

Yes. My first boyfriend broke up with me that night. The night you met Shane? The night I met Shane. You had a boyfriend at 13? I mean. Good for you. I was 14 at the time.

I was 14. That's very impressive. And like, I just remember he ran up to me with a camera because he was, I think he like saw I was there and then vlogged it. And I was like, oh my God, that's Shane Dawson. You knew. I was like, I was there and then blogged it and I was like oh my god that's Shane Dawson like obviously I know who you are oh yeah of course and I was like star struck at the time and then we did a few videos together which in hindsight like I don't even think I really knew that like he was doing a lot of like Rebecca Black jokes at the time and things

like that right I don't think I knew the context of it because I didn't understand. But I do have to say, obviously there's so much there. But when we would film, outside of filming, he was really nice to me and sweet. But I haven't talked to him in a minute and a half since you were like an adult you haven't seen him definitely no i couldn't even tell you the last time did you do his podcast i did his podcast when it was him and um lauren lauren in like burbank yeah and we filmed some stuff that again in hindsight wouldn't have wouldn't have even known like what was good that's also

like part of part of him too is he always had a plan and I would you know show up because I I wanted to be liked and like I wanted to be into me like I I really looked up to him and was your mom coming with you no no so how are you getting up at like 14 um I well she would come with me at that age but by the time we were filming, I want to say I was like 15, 16. Oh, I see. So. Yeah.

Wow. And I was, I was driving like with a permit and all of that. Wow. Yeah. That is crazy at 15 to be going to like someone that you like idolize and just like shooting content with them. Like that's, it is cool. Like I don't obviously blame you because like I would, I was writing letters to like

Jay Moore when I was like 12 being like, I love you. You just don't, you don't, you don't understand the context when you writing letters to like Jay Moore when I was like 12 being like I love you you know you don't you don't understand the context right when you're that age because at that age I'm like I'm 15 I'm so old I'm so like I can take care of myself yes and maybe he looked at you that way because you had so much success you know I think a lot of people look at kids who have a lot of success and think of them as just so much older you know than they are definitely and I've gotten that throughout my life that a lot of people think I'm older than I am yeah you're very young when I but it makes sense I'm like of course you were like a kid then but it does just seem you also just carry yourself a lot older than

27 which is like good because you're so professional you're on time you're following up you're like you know what I mean like you're just that person so it makes um it makes sense why people would think you're older but, it's been a funny thing to navigate because, again, I think I've had a lot of just strange experiences with people. And, again, when you're the kid in this situation, you don't know what you're walking into. And you don't know even the context of the jokes that are being made. You don't understand what people are talking about.

You're just there to laugh and have fun. And you're with one of your favorite YouTubers and people who you've idolized for so long, so you're just there to laugh and have fun and yeah you're with one of your like favorite youtubers and people who you've idolized for so long so you're just happy to be there right of course not really yeah fully getting what you're and you trust that like the adults around you know what they're doing right and i i think i i was really lucky to like be surrounded by parents and adults who like always like really took care of me and like knew that I was a kid but not especially in those early days of YouTube like no one knew what was going down yeah I think that is kind of the scary part of it I think that's why it's good now people talk about that kind of stuff so people are aware of like situations what they're going into yeah you know

like if I'm 15 maybe don't go collab with like a creator that is no no and my mom had no idea what I was doing I was just like I'm going to hang out like I'm going to do my thing yeah independent and she was like happy I had friends you know yeah so it's it is it is something that I hope that there's more you know I don't know what goes on in all the different worlds of of kids on the internet and in the industry these days but like I hope there's more consciousness it's hard yeah with the influencers it's just like kids just showing up like people's houses and just doing stuff yeah it is wild I can't imagine like a teenager showing up at my house where it's just the two of us and

like I'm running the show yeah that like welcome come in would make me so uncomfortable yeah and most people it would for sure yeah yeah it's such an interesting time what's interesting too is like so you did the influencer route and you were like super successful with like in my opinion a friday was like successful but then you went on a reality show yes like i'm saying it was like a competition show yes i did before why don't i remember this show like i don't remember being it was a short stint it was a short stint before okay and it was the premise was basically it was like a singing competition show like an idol or the voice or anything like that and the premise was that throughout the show they were always in the final four like they only had the final four best people the whole time so they would like

scout the world for the first four where they would like audition a bunch of people or i don't know how they found them but they started with four people. And then each contestant that came on would come on to challenge one of the four and like steal their spot. Does that make sense? Yes. But was there a winner or was there like a group before that? So then there would come like the final, like, you know, they would do this for like six weeks or whatever it was.

And then the final four would get locked in you know like their seats would get locked in and then it was against them four and then the winner would come from one of those four how far did you make it i was on one episode okay you went to challenge a four i went to challenge a four and basically they would there were two kind of like rounds you would come on and like essentially audition for a chance to challenge them where the judges would vote you through. Who are the judges? So the judges were Diddy. No.

What? Diddy, Meghan Trainor, and DJ Khaled. What? Oh. Love Meghan Trainor. It was a time. It was a time. And Meghan Trainor, It was a time. It was a time. And Meghan Trainor, kind queen.

Always so nice to me. Oh my. Have you been on her podcast? No, no, I haven't. Wait, that's wild. Yeah. That's such a funny show. I never, so what year is this?

Insane. I think it was 2018. Oh, kind of recent. Yeah. Kind of, yeah. Yeah. And you went on, did you just contact them or they contacted you? I actually don't remember how that went down.

I think it might have been, no, I didn't contact them. I think someone might have reached out from a casting thing. Okay. And then I was like, you know what? I have nothing to lose. I'll audition and just see what happens. I love, that's very humble of you because I do feel like you have such a name where it's like going on a show like that is for usually people who like are trying to make

a name, trying to get in the industry, but you're already in, you know what I mean? So to do that, it's very like, oh, but the day is wild. It is wild. How was your experience with him? I mean, I was never within like 50 feet of him, to be honest. I do remember a moment where I don't think I was supposed to see this but I was like behind the doors right before I was supposed to go on and I remember um because like I had no idea what they were like I was in no control of like how they were gonna you know do

my story or whatever or anything like that like I was just like you know what I feel like I can do this I want to give people a chance like hear my voice because I've worked really hard and I remember sitting behind the doors and I don't think I was supposed to be able to hear what the judges were saying because they had like a little tv where the judges were where like the crew could hear what they were saying and I just like heard like Megan kind of like giving the like download of my career to Diddy because he had no idea who I was for sure which not like they were supposed to but I I just remember being like, okay, interesting. Was it nice? Or was it just?

Yeah, yeah, it was nice. Okay. It was just kind of like, this is what happened, just so you know. Okay. And he was like, okay. And then I went out. Is that what he did? He's just like, okay.

I think so, from what I remember. But I remember everyone kind of like quickly turning it off because I don't think I was supposed to know. But whatever. What song did you sing? I sang Bye Bye Bye. I did like a very dramatic version of NSYNC's Bye Bye Bye. What do you mean dramatic?

Like just slow and drawn out? Like ballady? It was like a ballad version. Can you give us a little? No. No. How to win this tonight? Probably gonna start a fight.

I know this can't be right now baby come on that was amazing you have really good riffs really good control yeah you do you sing beautifully i love singing it's my favorite thing i don't um sing well but i love singing it's so fun if i had your voice i would if i had any sort of like a little bit of professional voice I would be killing it I'd be going everywhere I mean I don't know why you're not have you seen the raise your ya-ya situation she has asked to come on the podcast a couple times her manager has reached out should I get it wrong because would we just be singing the whole time which I love I know nothing that was fierce in the way I'm like in my car on the way here I was like

oh what is what is the no it's like raise your yeah yeah yeah or whatever that's so good I don't even know I don't even know because I can't hear it in my head it's something that's how I just like her I I've watched so many because I'm obsessed with the way her jaw drops have you seen her teaching people yes I'm gonna get her on's going to be here the 17th and 18th. You should do like a vocal lesson or something. I would love. I definitely need to. I'm going to Broadway February 3rd. Oh my god.

And I need to learn to sing probably before that. Wait. What are the dates of your show? Just February 3rd. It's just one night at the St. James. It's like the after the Grammys too. No one can come. You're going to be back. One day. One day I I wish you could come. You're going to be back. I need to learn. One day. One day I'm telling you.

Know me. I mean if that show girls have. I definitely can be know me. You're definitely going to be the know me. No, no, no, no. But I would love. We need to. I think we have to instigate this.

Okay. I will. I literally will. My producers like produce like they're producing Romeo and Juliet. Like they produce all the shows. So I'll be like let's do this. Let's do it. Let's do this.

Someone has to. I feel like Ariana Grande probably could be in it because she loves showgirls too we could have her maybe you guys be crystal know me and I'll be that one stripper that like no no no no the boobs come out like I love that stripper she had kind of small boobs for a plus-size woman it could be like yeah yeah I mean it could be like a like a every other night like situation you guys can switch oh yeah I'll be the understudy we can all switch each other no we could all no we could all no i mean like not an understudy like you don't know what you're getting have they never done that before we're like it's like different well people probably want to see you and ariana grande they're probably like wait no they don't because did you see the

understudy went on for um rachel zegler and people were giving her because apparently she's gonna sing which i was like they always can sing but they were like oh she like was still on the book and people were you know they gave her which is like people are so hard on people are so hard everyone also like those people perform eight shows a week it's like they work no one well i don't want to say this because a lot of people work really hard but people in theater are built different different how they do it and some of them do the matinees during christmas time oh my god boulevard they were doing a two o'clock show eight o'clock show and nicole sherson just like belting each job like how are you doing blood

and every just a lot i'm just like how are they doing it yeah broadway is crazy i would love like that's a dream of mine to do it one day but i am also scared of the work I could easily do it for sure you've been working since you were literally 11 3 but the body is I'm like I turned 25 and the body slowly your body is t I know we're not common people's bodies when I saw you I was just like you look like literally like Betty Page like just like so cute I saw you and I was like oh absolutely what would be your dream Broadway role like Like fear aside. Fear aside of anything? I mean, honestly, probably to do like a showgirls moment. Like probably to do – You're really going to make this happen.

Honestly, I would love to do Chicago. Yes. But I would love to do – not Roxy Hart. I'm blanking. Velma? Velma Kelly. I would love to do Velma Kelly. That Velma's been in there for like 35 years.

There's a Velma in there now that's literally been in there for like 40 years. I love it. She's everything. But I was like, damn, she's been in there. like 35 years there's a velma in there now that's literally been in there for like 40 years i love it she's everything but i was like damn she's been in there and they just rotate their boxes that's crazy yeah that's crazy but showgirls we have to make this happen because honestly everyone loves showgirls and like it had such a cultural rebirth i feel like like it would be so it'd be everything someone hit us up please i love that you love that so much like literally you don't understand. Like that's my comfort movie. I watch it every week. Have they ever done a um, oh my god.

What's the one? It's not gonna bother me. Thelma and Louise. Have they ever done like Thelma and Louise? A musical? I'm surprised they haven't. I don't think they have. I feel like that would also be really cute. Anything with a good IP nowadays, they turn into a musical. True. Which I love. I love it. I know people complain about it, but like Mean Girls was so good. True. True. I haven't seen it. I know people complain about it, but like Mean Girls was so good.

True. True. I haven't seen like – I'm trying to think of what the last Broadway thing I saw was. I haven't seen – I think maybe it was like Beetlejuice a long time ago. I haven't seen a lot of shows recently. Beetlejuice. That was like – that's actually one of my all-time favorite. I know.

Smash is coming to Broadway. Ooh. Did you watch the show? No. With Catherine McPhee? No. It was so good. Oh, my God.

That's fun. It was all Broadway people. And it was the story about them making a Broadway show about Marilyn Monroe. And they were competing. It was – oh, you have to watch. I do. It's on like – I'm sure it's on Hulu or Peacock. It's the best show.

There's two seasons. Jeremy Jordan's in it. Christian Borle. It's like an all-star cast. Megan Hilty, who's in Death Becomes Her. Oh, Death Becomes Her would be insane also. Have you seen it? Yeah, of course.

Have you seen the Broadway version? No. No. It's all over tiktok right now like the sounds are so viral i gotta get into this it's so good oh my god no you would love okay anyways i i broadway is everything and i can see you on there showgirls we're gonna make happen this can i i do think i'm a pretty good manifester and i feel like if i put that out there i'm gonna call george and kobe after this and be like hey we need to make this happen it could be fierce i would also my last one would be this is my favorite movie of all time and i know you're a tarantino girl would be like, hey, we need to make this happen. It could be fierce. I would also, my last one would be, because this is my favorite movie of all time, and I know you're a Tarantino girl, would be like a Kill Bill Broadway show. That would be insane. I'm shocked they haven't done that.

That would also go so well. Like the crazy 88s situation. Ooh, yeah. It would be fierce. Ooh, on stage? That would be so amazing. Yeah, like coming through the audience. I could see it.

I'm surprised they've never done that. I know, right? I know. Especially because people love that kind of campy go audience. Like I could see it. I'm surprised they've never done that. I know, right? Especially because people love that kind of like campy gore. It's so campy. It's so gore. It's so like fierce and glam. The music is so good. Yeah.

Hang up the check, have it. I love – oh, no, that's from Death Proof. What was – what's the one they sing, the 5, 6, 7, 8? Oh. Oh. I forget too. It's so good. Now I can't remember. I'm thinking all too it's so good now i can't remember

i'm thinking yeah all his scores are good and now i can't think i haven't watched a quentin trentini movie in probably 10 years i probably should i loved it as a kid yeah i love maybe maybe once my time in hollywood was like the last one i watched i haven't seen it and like but i haven't watched was that the last one oh kill bill one and two back to back are like they're my favorite you must have been like seven or you didn't see when they came out i well i was pretty young when i watched them for the first time 13 when those came out and i loved them i was so much them i love you're watching it at seven years old maybe pretty close yeah my dad loved movies and so we were always just like watching and he loves tarantino

movies so that's how i got into them they're very just cinematic they're just so they are well the area you live in he has isn he own that Vista Theater? Yes. Have you ever been there? That's where they do True Romance. They shot True Romance. Yes. I went recently and saw Anora, which was amazing.

Was it good? Have you seen Anora? No, but I love Mikey Madison. I want to see it. That's the one she's in, right? Yes. Yes. I haven't seen it. Oh, it's so good.

I don't know anything about it, though. Well, don't know anything about it. It's so just like fun and beautiful and surprising. You saw it at the Vista? Yeah, I saw it at the Vista. It was really fun. Is it filmed? Do they show film there or is it digital? I don't know, actually. I know they do a lot of film. Yeah, I know. I haven't seen any of these like new movies that are being nominated for a thing. Have you seen Baby Girl? No, we were just talking about that too. Is it good? To me, that...

You would love it. Wait, really? I don't know. I would love to know what you think. I was obsessed. I went by myself and saw it the other day. Wait, what about it? It is just so fun and, like, empowering. And Harris Dickinson is so hot. He's the young. So baby girl. He's young.

Older woman. Younger man. Yes. Yes. She, like, is very, like, in control of her, like, dominant in her, like, professional life. And she wants to be dominated in her private life. Is that what I'm getting or no?

That is the essence a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. Is it like Fifty Shades of Grey but reversed? I've never seen Fifty Shades of Grey. It's boring. I watched it for like a half an hour. I think it's the same vibe of like it's horny.

A little horny movie. You're there to be horny and you're there to be – Ooh, I'll watch it. Ugh. It's so fun. Like the idol. Like anything horny I love. Yes. be horny and you're there to be horny. It's so fun. Anything horny I love. Showgirls, obviously. Exactly. It's just so much fun.

It's so much fun. I'm glad you told me that because when you say that, Bridgerton 2 also makes me horny. Those kind of things. I get excited and I don't get excited by anything. No. I need the edging. Which is very much like an edging i did see her as like a dog on all fours on tiktok and it's kind of like i don't know about

this but i could watch it there's a whole milk situation don't know how you feel about that like drinking milk pouring milk just milk it's just milk i just can't give it away that's sexy now like uh fellow travelers too they had a whole like milk drink your milk like the way they shared jonathan bailey made famous i used to have it in like three of my songs there's like lyrics like I'll drink your milk like I love the idea that it's sexy yeah milk is sexy well because it's it's like freaky it's like weird it's like countless put it all over me yeah I mean yeah even if it's almond milk I'm like it's creamy it's white almond milk is freaky because it like doesn't expire for months I was like I don't know if I want that in my cereal. True. True. I do love almond milk. Wait, why do you love almond milk if you eat like steak and stuff? I love it all. I love it all. Like I taste. Yeah. Well, I don't drink coffee.

I don't like the taste of coffee. Not even like a frappuccino. Oh yeah. I mean, yeah. I love like, yeah, I love a frappuccino. Yeah, I love a frappuccino. Love like an espresso martini. Love tiramisu. The cake? Yeah. That's like coffee. Oh, right.

That is. I don't really consider it coffee. But yeah, you're right. You're right. I like the flavor of it. But I don't love like a cup of coffee. Yeah, like a black coffee or latte is not my thing either. Yeah, but I love tea.

And so I got really into like Earl Grey with almond milk for whatever reason. Oh, interesting. Almond milk. I don't know why. There's something about like the flavor of it that I like the best, but I'll take it with anything. Yeah, yeah. It's thicker. It's also like, I guess if I'm singing, like no dairy is better.

Oh, people do say that. And I always drink so much milk. Well, I'm not really a trained singer but I love drinking like a big glass of milk. Like skim milk. We'll get Yaya in here and she'll tell you all about it.

Maybe I'll hit her. That's so funny you said that because I was like, I know her. Is it niche? I guess it doesn't matter. It's having a moment for sure. It is having a moment.

Okay. Yeah, it's everywhere. On the podcast, you've convinced me. Anyone who wants to sing here, I'm always down. You know what I mean? Oh, sure.

I bet she would. I bet she would. Because she's not in LA but I know she's going to sing here, I'm always down. You know what I mean? I bet she would. I bet she would. Because she's not in LA, but I know she's going to be here for a couple days. Okay. I love that she reached out. That's so fierce. Yeah, and like her manager too. Awesome.

And I was like, okay, this maybe is meant to be, you know. She's locked in. Yeah. She's locked in. Anybody, I just love, I love great singers too. Like anyone who sings, I'm always just in awe. Because that's like the one like talent where I wish I was like a singer singer, you know, just like perfect pitch. like I mean it can come

I can come I have my people say that a long time on my voice and you train yeah yeah I've gone in and out but I've spent a lot of time in like vocal lessons and just like also even just um with like people I've like written with and recorded with who've taught me a lot about like vocal technique and finding. Because a lot of it isn't even about technique. It's just about finding a sound. But you have to hear it, right? You have to hear pitch and keys and all that stuff.

Yes. That's, I think, natural. Well, I feel like you could train it. Well, we'll see. I have three weeks to learn the game. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Which is terrifying and all of that.

But your new album, we haven't even talked about it. You're doing so much here. We're just talking about your favorite milk. I'm so excited which is like terrifying and all of that but yeah your new album we haven't even talked about you're doing so much here we are just talking about your favorite milk booze milk which is all the great stuff

to be honest Salvation comes out is it January 24th yes oh my god that's so soon. I know. Are you doing like a bunch of like press right now for it?

I am. I am. Just like constantly. Well, it was kind of weird with the holidays, but we're back. We're back. And are you – you have a team reaching out to people or are you reaching out to people? Honestly, it's like a kind of a mix. Like I feel – I felt really lucky this time that like some of my favorite people have

like you and I think I'm going to do something with Trixie in a second like that's that that's so fun for me I'm so excited I've been damning Trixie non-stop for years she's iconic no that's the biggest if you know that's has she ever done this I'm like um no I think she's just way too famous which I totally respect because she's everything that's gonna be crazy that would be huge if you do that oh my god um You and Trixie would be like, also the Trit and the Trit. That'd be so Barbenheimer.

I did meet her one time and she was very, very sweet. That was 2018. I think that was before. She's like literally A-list superstar right now. That's huge. I've been having fun. I was so happy that I got to do something with Drew. Yeah, that was such a good interview. But it's such a mix of everything.

So, and are you still doing like, because you were on like, were you on The Tonight Show? Years ago. So do you ever, why don't you get on there? Because like you are so like, your moment is now,

you have the new album. If only they'd have me on. I feel like, I'm not even saying this in any way, but they have like very just every, they can have a lot of people on. They do. They do.

I mean, the traditional world, I don't understand. Really? The traditional world, I don't know how to. Well, how'd you get on it the first time? That's a great question. I think they reached out. I think they reached out. It was Jay Leno back in the day, and it was so fierce.

Wow. I love Jay Leno. I used to go to all these great shows with Jay Leno. I love him. Wow. He was really sweet. He gave me a Sephora gift card for coming on the show. It was really nice. I love Dylan. I used to go to all these nice shows with Dylan. Wow. He was really sweet. He gave me a Sephora gift card for coming on the show. It was really nice.

Give me some cash. I was so happy. I was like, okay, go get my naked whatever eye palette. That's an artifact too. Yes. They just relaunched. That's how old it is. It's like –

Oh, wow. Yeah, they just rebranded it. I mean, it was good. And are you going to do more festivals this year? I think so. I think so. We're like putting together the year. I have a tour in March where I'm going to do like my own. You should come. March 4th. It starts March 4th. Is it sold out? It's like half sold out already. Yeah. It's doing, it's doing it. That's amazing. I saw that the Salvation Tour and I was just like, oh, how are you already half sold out? That's wild. That was really like surprising and fun. I will come. Are you going to be in LA?

Yeah. Yeah. Where, where? We're doing the El Rey. You should come. Love. It would surprising and fun. I will come. Are you going to be in LA? Yeah. Yeah. Where? We're doing the El Rey. Love. You should come. Love. It would be so fun to have you. Are you doing a bus tour? I don't know yet.

I was actually talking about that. I've never done that for myself ever. It's coming quick. You got to figure it out. It is coming quick. We are trying to figure it out. But I don't know. I mean, that's always so like glam and fun.

But I've been on a Sprinter. Not for myself. Which I've been on a sprinter not for myself I like did like some like of those like kind of youtubey tours that were put on by other people that's a whole different thing lesbian one right is there was there a lesbian tour I don't remember there was like mecon and like the lesbian and I loved it there was um there was a tour that I did called love is Love, which was like, at the time, I don't know why I was on it because I was not like, it was with a lesbian named Shannon and then this like very popular trans creator, Miles McKenna. And I was just the ally. I think I was

on it because I was bullied. They were like, love is love. Sorry, just spat. But i was a proud ally because i thought i didn't even know my own sexuality at the time maybe they knew maybe they had they didn't know they planted it they planted it um and that was yeah they probably like i feel like friday is definitely like a gay anthem for sure the gays probably lived it has it has like definitely earned a status which i i love so much. So that's cool. So you went on this Love is Love tour. It just has the ally back then. Yes.

That's the ultimate. I wish I would be invited on a gay tour. I come on my tour anytime because now that's a gay tour. Let me tell you. Is it? Yes. We've got dancers with boobs. And I do fake boobs.

We've got rhinestone chainsaw. We're planning out all the surprises. Oh, yeah. So've got like rhinestone chainsaw. We're planning out all the like surprises. Oh yeah. So it's like production. It's like a, it's a fun, it's a fun thing. I'm like a theater kid, you know. You're like, I have to do a full show. Are you with a label right now?

No, I'm independent. So are you doing this yourself? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's no easy feat to have all that production. It's intense. Wait, so you're doing it.

That's so fun. Because I was watching your shows from last year, like the one you did over and it was England. It was huge. It was like 30,000 people. Oh Mighty Hoopla. You would eat Mighty Hoopla. They would love you. I could never do what you're doing. You're on stage it's actually like insane to watch. Thank you. I kind of just like strut around and kind of get out of breath

but you were like crushing. Thank you. And it's cute all the outfits you wear. You really do wear like those little short skirts and you're just like very out there and I like love. I just short skirts and you're just like very out there. And I like – I just didn't know that about you, like this performance part. It's like been something that for so long I honestly had a lot of stage fright after Friday. So it's been like a muscle I've built back. But now I feel like I've found like my thing and building the show is like my favorite thing to do.

And you're doing it yourself. Yeah. I work with a choreographer. His name is Richie Jackson. He actually did Jojo Siwa Karma and like all of the Gaga stuff for years. Does he work with Trevi Moran? I actually don't know. Okay.

Why don't I think like Trevi worked with like Lady Gaga's choreographer one time. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Again, I have terrible memory and I love Trevi. Yeah. She's queen. She is. She's gorgeous.

No, like stunning. Insane. I saw her for the first time in person in a few years the other day and I was just like, literally, I think there's a photo of me like holding her face. Oh, literally the most gorgeous, the most beautiful voice, like such an icon. Yeah. It's awesome. Also since 12, just like. True.

Yeah. True. Oh, wow. But yeah, so I like, I have like several people who help me kind of like put it all together and come up with all the ideas. No director though. Um, not for, not for touring, but I'm actually shooting a music video this weekend and that's like, we've got like a director I really love. Is this the first single off Salvation? Um, no. So Trust was the first single. I love that music video. Thank you. That that was like budget not to be about money but let me tell you it was not what it looked like really it was not what it

looked like well you're a thrifter so you're probably good at like getting those deals we it was all hands on deck on that video and i i have to say like the director olivia who i've worked with now a couple times like is just her and everyone she brings on like she is incredible and they just make it happen for like a budget a budget favors were pulled i think like the limo we had was like taken from a wiz khalifa video they shot the day before i don't know if i'm supposed to say that but like they were like just using what we could because it it really is like you know an independent moment it looked so production how many days did you do one? One. One. Wow. It was intense. So Trust came out. So that's gonna be on this new album. Yes. And then what's the music video you're shooting? It's for the title

track Salvation. And what is okay, Salvation sounds so holy. Yeah, that what it is, is like a rebirth. Is it like a gospel album? The RB, the rebrand. The RB of the RB. Both my parents came from quite Catholic families, but I never really knew church in my life growing up or anything like that. But I've always been fascinated by religious symbolism. And then also, I think I've had just an interesting relationship with... Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup. Pick any two breakfast items for $4. New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, biscuit or English muffin sandwiches, small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's Taxes Extra. Trusting everyone else in

my life to like tell me where to go or what to do and not myself and Salvation, the song, the whole like premise of it is like, I don't you to save me i've already saved myself like i've i'm liberated um it's about like just queerness and like being disgusting and allowing people to like it's really about just about trusting your own journey like no matter who that's got it yeah i love the being disgusting part there's a fun there's a fun lyric about being disgusting um i'll stay hot and you stay judgy it's like I love it love okay no your music is so good because like what's otherwise it's sugar water yes that one is so like I don't even know what you're saying but it's so like good I was just like wait this is such a bop how did like people sleep on it like I feel like it was good people liked it but I was like how did

that not become like she was for she was for like the club kids like that's so good that's the thing that was a song that is like my like bread and butter but um i love making songs that like are you know kind of the bigger pop songs and and throwing in like the like hard you know niche niche bangers in there would you ever go on a tour with somebody again like you did the love is love tour but who else do you open for someone big wait i haven't but i would love to no there was someone big and you were like one of like five people that like opened up oh i did i did bst hyde park which is like a big uh uk festival for black pink oh yeah yeah i was like wait that's humongous that was fun yeah and sabrina carpenter was on that right before she looked that was sick that was cool that was just was it just last year was it the

other four yeah i think that was last year. That's wild. It was crazy. That was crazy and like last minute and so fun. I would love to open up and do like a tour for somebody. Who was like your dream one? Because like – you know Katy Perry. She's going on tour. Maybe –

I would eat that up. I would love to do that. You guys should do Friday again just like – Honestly, we can do a Friday last Friday night mix into the show. Has she ever done a mashup of that? Because that's everything. I don't think so. I don't think so. It would be everything. How old were you when you did the music video? It was right after Friday.

Literally like a month after Friday went viral. That's pretty cool. Also just like she was really really took so much time to be with me and talk to me and she didn't need to do that. She was so busy. you would be a girl i would have done anything to have collabed with you i've been like gosh i wish i was oh my

god you should have hit me up i was like i was obsessed that's crazy i wanted to be you i was so excited i was so i was so excited you were the first person to have like a viral hit like that and i was just like that's so cool like i want to be able to do that it's cool and like whatever people can say whatever about it but you at the end of the day were like the most famous person. You are all the validation I will ever need. No, I would love to do something with her or like Gaga. Is she coming back with music this year? She's supposed to drop an album, LG7. Oh, I always thought that was like a phone because I always heard people saying it and I was like, it sounds like LG7. LG7, like the seventh album. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oh my God. When's that happening?

I don't think she's announced it, but sometime. She's going to drop it one time. She dropped a song at the end of the year, but she also has the other big song with Bruno Mars. From the Joker. No, it's not the Joker, weirdly. Oh, there's another one they did? Yeah.

You haven't heard like, if the world was a- Oh, yeah. Why do I think it was from- Are they wearing blue outfits? It's giving Joker, but it's not Joker. Oh, okay. Guess I have heard that song everywhere. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Why do I think it was from – are they wearing blue outfits? It's Giving Joker, but it's not Joker. Oh, okay. I guess I have heard that song everywhere. Yeah.

Okay, interesting. So I guess that's kind of having its moment, so maybe they'll wait until that's done. She's such an icon too. She really is. That'd be cool if you went on tour with her. I would love to. I would love to. I see that happening for sure.

Like I do feel like you will – because your music is so good and I just feel like people know it's good, but I don't know why. I don't know why you haven't had your Sabrina moment where you're just like literally everywhere I just do my thing I just happen I've I honestly like I feel so lucky there was a time in my career where like I could not sell like eight tickets to a show literally now you're selling out and like I just feel so lucky that you know I can put things out and sell them out I have so much fun at the shows I do what do you think or has it always been there because you said there was a time where you couldn't sell eight shows. What do you think is like the resurgence of Rebecca Black? Because you kind of are everywhere

now. You are selling out shows. What was it? What was the turn? I think I just really learned to trust myself for the first time and like do what I wanted. I think for so long, I remember having like conversations back in the day with people I was working with or, you know, teams and managers and things like that and saying like my dreams and my goals and this is the kind with people I was working with or you know teams and managers and things like that and saying like my dreams and my goals and this is the kind of music I want to make and for some reason I think because I was so young I was like 19 or whatever I just didn't know how to do it myself or like didn't know how to find people that would be like oh you have that idea like yes let's go um and yeah yeah and i think honestly throughout the years it's been

learning how to um trust myself and also like work with people who like what i like yeah you know and yeah and who trust me you know um that's been a huge huge piece of it like the people i work with now don't give me a lot of creative you know uh what's the word i'm looking for advice like it's me and my people yeah they're like whatever you want to do just yeah and even if they don't get it they're like let's go that's sick that's the best i know because when people don't get it and you're just like but that's the whole point right is because it's like something new and something different exactly exactly exactly and like you just never i have to trust that. Like, I know my people, like I know my audience and you know, and they are eating it up. The DJ sets. Where did that

come from? The DJ? I started DJing like six years ago and just have been doing it ever since. So wild. Cause New Year's Eve you DJ'd. Yeah, I did. Cincinnati. Wait, shout out Cincinnati. Ohio. Hard Rock Casino. It was fierce. Oh my god, that's so cool. It was fun. It was a fun kind of random one, but I had a lot of fun. And yeah, I've been DJing like all around LA and just like clubs and stuff like that, honestly, for like a better part of almost six years. What do you like more? Does it not compare? Honestly, it's just different. Like when I DJ, I feel like that's just like me like going out like it's rebecca doing her thing yeah um and like i play music that i like and i love it feels like i'm

like throwing a party um but with like my show or videos that's so planned out to the t and rehearsed and like i know exactly what to expect um there's like a performance like it's just a different different part of me it's like your drag it's my drag yeah yeah djing me is definitely me like out of drag like I show up in jeans do you really yeah because it's comfortable otherwise I'm like I just want to be like you know I want my phone with me wait what if you have like do you ever have like a bad night where like you're like you're playing like Dear Evan Hansen or something I was like boo because I do need to start playing Dear Evan Hansen I would play it I don't know if I've ever had I mean I've definitely had some like technical

hiccups for sure where all of a sudden I'll be like ready to like transition to the next song and I do it and like oh I forgot to like hit something so it's silent for a second you know and I'll be like oh sorry people don't care people are usually a little drunk or a little you know so you can be a little loose which is fun but that okay so nothing where people like this song sucks or something well if they have I haven't heard it that's pretty good because that's so much pressure I can never be a DJ for that reason like what I don't know like what do you mean you know what everybody wants to hear that's so hard you don't and that And that's, that's the thing though,

is you can kind of, if you play something, so maybe you like play something and people are like really going and singing, like, you know, you can play chapel around anywhere and the girls will die. And that, I love that about her. Um, but I, I've sometimes like had like a big moment and I'll be like, Oh, they're going to love this one. And then it's just a little more dead than you think. You're like, the bodies aren't really moving but luckily okay well let's just switch it let's just go back more chapel go back to being 40 club every time and so that's what I like about DJing is it keeps me on my toes whereas like my show like you're in for the ride I'm giving you. You have no option. The Rebecca Black show. Yeah. Are you singing live?

Yeah, yeah, of course. A hundred percent. Yeah. Wow. I use some track like to lift it up because I'm dancing. Yeah, of course. But everyone does. I'm always singing live.

Yeah. Lip syncing is hard. Yeah, I never like fully lip sync, but I love to sing with a little track, you know, a little backup something. Most people do because it also helps like the balance especially if you're using tracks and not other instruments you know are you doing the in-ears oh yeah I try to use them and I'm like I can't they're hard they're so hard and you only hear yourself and I'm like oh that's

scary I mean because if you have like perfect pitch you want to hear yourself I mean I'm like I don't want to hear yeah let me totally totally I know I what I have a hard time with is I feel you know you can't hear the audience. Yes, it's muted. So you're like, I don't know if you like this, but you can get like crowd mics and things like that. You just got to get like a good monitors engineer that'll kind of balance you out. But what about like changing costumes? I've never done costume changes actually i've just done one but

i'm trying to do some changes this year okay we'll see it sounded complicated when i was like doing them i was like i don't know how this pack is gonna like get off with me and everything yeah people do it bernie spears do it they do it they look cool the in-ears look cool like they look cool they can make your ears kind of sore though i found for the whole show too long and how long is your show is like a 90 minute show. It's like 70 minutes. I think. And you're on stage the whole time because you don't change outfits. I have been.

I have been, which this, this year is the year that I'm like, okay, I got to not do that anymore. Right. Cause I've had some close calls for sure. What do you mean?

Like falling over or what? Just like getting to the point where I'm like, all right, my voice is tired. I'm tired. I, I should like, cause I'm really bad at taking time to like drink water or

like fan off or something like that. Like I'm just in and I want people to be happy. Chug that water. Yeah. Are you doing covers? I have done covers. Yeah. Are you going to do any in this tour? I'm not sure. Okay. So you haven't fully even put it together yet. It's in the process. It's in the process by the end of this month, we'll be like locked in. And you're going to do Friday. Always do Friday. I love – do you end it with Friday or do you like have it at the beginning? It's been like one of the encores for a while.

Such a good one. But I don't know. I want to do something different this year and I have some ideas because I like to change it up. Like I've done like ballad versions of it before. I've done like – Love. I've done crazy versions of it where it's super fast and remixed that's so fun or you should like um Britney Spears used to do she did like a cabaret

version of baby one more time she's like babe that would be so fierce cabaret Friday would be so good and I love it so I'll credit you if I do oh I think that would be so amazing you do like a little burlesque number out there like to Friday. You're hired. Because no matter what, that song is always going to be so iconic. You always have like this moment in history. It's like literally it's what, 14 years ago and people are still like – every interview you do, people want to ask you about it and talk about it. People want to hear you sing it and play it. And that's just so cool to have that like hit song forever, you know?

I've grown to – there was a long time where i like would cringe at anyone that brought it up but now i yeah it's like it's my baby yeah you know iconic it's so cool you and sy remember sy gong oh king where's yeah i loved him i don't know he tried to do follow-up songs and they just like weren't as good but you can't you can't follow up you something you also just can't like you can't plan for it you know is what i like a lot of people have been like maybe this will be the next thing or how do we like recreate this moment i'm like girl you can't you can't you literally can't i've tried i've tried to do viral stuff all the time like you cannot do it do you remember bart baker yes i do and did he did he do were you in his or did he just parody? He did a, I mixed some of them up.

I know, yeah. He did a parody at least. He did a parody for sure. I think we might have met years kind of down the line. You never were in his? No, no, I don't think so. I remember him doing one and for some reason he had like devil ears, like he was playing you. There were some intense ones for sure.

People were so, and you're like a child and people were being so hardcore. And I was like – It was hardcore for sure. Like people were so like nasty and weird. And then the whole sexualization thing is a whole other thing. But it's so – I think he's in China being a pop star or something now. Go off, queen. Like where'd Bart Baker go?

Go off. Or Dave Days, you did a video. Yes. Is he around still? I haven't talked to Dave in a long, long time. He's very Venetian princess era. Like they were very – Yes, but I was also obsessed with him. Oh, you did a video. Yes. Is he around still? I haven't talked to Dave in a long, long time. He's very Venetian Princess era. Like they were very. But I was also obsessed with him.

Oh, you did? For sure. Oh my God. That's wild. Yeah, I was just like, I was like, I don't know. You guys did Saturday together,

which is like, I guess you were a fan so that's how he convinced you because I was like, wait, if you hated Friday, why the hell would you do Saturday? Well, that was like a real, that was like a reclamation of it.

Of like, let me, I had a hair on. Let me do it my way. And that was fun. Like Saturday? Well, that was like a real – that was like a reclamation of it. Of like let me – I had a hair on. Let me do it my way. And that was fun. Like Saturday we like wrote over like literally I think in 30 minutes and the video was like me and all my friends. And like that was very fun. You don't regret that one? No.

I don't regret anything. I don't regret Friday either. You said – and I never want to hear about asking you about Sunday. But I think you did one about like – but turn it into like an espresso, like a hot fudge sunday you know what i mean but then they'd be like the sabrina allegations would be fierce like i'm she's got espresso you know yeah but sunday is like oh i got my cherries and my hot fudge dripping oh like ice cream yeah and but but it's the pun it's like you did friday saturday sunday Yes, okay. I love my Sunday. I think you have to be my creative director.

Genius. Because I saw something where you're like, I hate when people ask me about Sunday, but I'm like, wait, but that would be so, you would like eat it. Oh, I'll take it. And then you could like have your Sunday in Baskin Robbins and.

Maybe there's a Baskin Robbins like brand deal down the line. That would be everything for you. And I would take that. I would take that for sure. I feel like you would be a great Brandy L. Queen. Fridays should have had you for the Friday song.

Yes. Yes. I know. We never did anything there. They close up shop everywhere. Right. I forgot about that. One time I choked on a mozzarella stick at a TJ Friday. Really? Did you ever eat one again? No. Haven't been back since. I love mozzarella sticks. I do Friday. Really? Yeah. Did you ever eat one again? No. Haven't been back since.

I love mozzarella sticks. Yeah, I do too. So good. I love the Chili's dippers. Have you had the Nashville hot one? Those are wild. I love them. Would you ever write a song in hopes they would pick it up? Do you know what I mean? Chili's? Yeah. Do you remember

their song back in the day? No. It's like, I love my Chili's. It's like baby back, baby back, baby back, baby, baby back ribs. You don't remember? Barbecue sauce. It was such a good song. No, I don't remember. You should write the new Chili's song.

Or Folgers had such a hit. I would totally do a theme. I would do a theme for sure. You should just put it out there as something you love and then just pick it up and actually we'll do it. Number one brand. I just got to start writing jingles. Just got to start.

That's where the money is, I feel. I'm trying to think of what would be my dream brand. I'm like a huge Olive Garden girl, so I would love an Olive Garden. Or Arby's. I feel like I should do Arby's. But you don't love Arby's, I feel. You love Olive Garden. True.

True. Yeah. True. But Arby's is your initial. Yeah. It's just priorities, I guess. I don't know. It's just creative differences. But yeah. I would love a jingle. I cannot's is your initial. Yeah. It's just priorities, I guess. I don't know. Creative differences.

But yeah. I would love a check on that. I can't wait for your tour. Thank you. I can't wait for your new music video because music videos are my favorite thing in the whole world. Thank you. And you really do eat on your videos.

They are so good. Thank you. You should be in this one. And how long is your tour? It's like a month. But then we'll do some more over the summer. Back to back you're going then. Yeah.

We're going to do like US and UK all in one. The international is wild. It's crazy. How do you get over? You have a promoter over there then? You have to get a separate agent that does international. And do you just have a huge fan base over there? Because that's wild.

I've definitely built one in the UK and I've played Berlin before, which is crazy. Oh my God, really? Yeah. The Germans love you. The Germans. I love Germany. I love Germany. built one in in the uk and i've like i've played berlin before which is crazy so oh my god wait really yeah the germans love you the germans i love germany love germany have you ever learned to speak it while you're over there i got sick when i was there and so i needed to speak it to learn how to get medicine what did you say could not tell you what i said you just look it up like chat gpt or what it It was definitely Google Translate and it was the first because like my, so my mom was from Mexico City so I speak some Spanish

speak a little French. It's the first language I like did not know anything so it was rough. It's very different than French and Spanish I would assume. Very different but fun, fun to speak, fun to look at. Oh wait so your mom, okay so your mom first generation. Yes. Okay Mexican immigrant. Yes. Your dad is. White. White guy. Mix of everything. oh wait so your mom okay so your mom first generation yes okay mexican immigrant yes your

dad is white just white guy from iowa yeah yeah he's white so is it like was it polish i was like reading your background is it like polish yes everything yes polish and english but i that's like i don't even know when that was you know when people ask you i'm just like i don't know i don't know i did my ancestry and then i got lost in the mail and I have no idea what I am. Wow. I would always just assume I was just like, oh, I'm probably like white, but I don't know. Maybe I'm not. I have no idea. I don't know. I could see you having some like business. I feel like it. Because my parents don't even really know. They're kind of like, I don't know. We're in Europe. Your dad is from Illinois. And where was your mom? He's Ohio. My mom's Illinois. Oh, okay. oh okay so midwest wow yeah but we don't know anything

you should do that i've never done that thing before but i want to like 23 and me or yeah i'm just scared of giving my dna away it is very scary but i feel like they probably have everything else on us now it's so true you know the eye prints and the fingerprints and all that they really do they really do aliens coming for us true 2020 true you're rebecca black and the fingerprints and all that stuff like that. They really do. They really do. Aliens coming for us. True. 2020, true. You have Rebecca Black and the aliens and Salvation. Down, down, down. Well, there's still some cities left, right, that you can get tickets for? Yes.

Okay, so go to, is it Salvation? How do you do it, master? I think it's, I don't know. Go to my Instagram and the link is there. Rebecca Black's Instagram is popping. Thank you so much for being here. This was like such a highlight for me and it just feels like YouTube royalty sitting next to me. Oh, no.

Literally same. Thank you. I'm just so lucky to be here. Thank you for having me. Check out Rebecca Black everywhere. I can't wait to see all the stuff you're going to do for this album. I'm so excited. I'm so honored that this is one of your first stops.

Thank you. Check out Rebecca Black everywhere and hopefully we'll be on Broadway soon starring in Showgirls. Showgirls. See you soon. Bye. Bye.