Just Trish - Sep 16, 2025

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 First of all, better than me, though, would never take a phone call for Mr. Reese. And Mr. Reid's like, hey, I want to call you. No. Not James Charles. Harry Jousy, I could probably do it. Because I feel like, he doesn't have a personality, so that's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Sorry. Just talking about that. Weird of like Nikki and James Simpli that anyone who liked it is just because they were bought off, you know, like, I, because I don't think that's the- No, I'm sure. I'm sure it's a great lipstick, you know. Her name is Trish
Starting point is 00:00:32 She's got the dish And all the Gus was filthy, rich, pretty and pink Hot Topic Queen and says what everybody thinks she's just Trish Yay! Hello, welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. It's going to be a great day with a slight chance of rain and hitting highs in 74.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I feel like the weather prison day, and I love it. And I think that's my next career move, maybe. Do you have to go to school? I feel like you've done a weather, a meteorologist job before, no? Definitely with Al Roker, I did one time. I wore a green dress to the green screen. As a Tristorian, I knew somewhere in my mind I had a vision of you in front of the, like, meteorology, the weather report thing. Yes, I, wow, you are.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I am a Tristorian. I know. I love that, by the way. Tristorian is iconic, and you're iconic. We're iconic. We're on getting images this week. check out Getty images and before we do that
Starting point is 00:01:31 check out Just Trish we have blankets we have tote bags and mugs galore I was just in the garage with my mom this past week and I was like you know what
Starting point is 00:01:39 these blankets are kind of everything so I like can you pull one for me because I do use this every single day don't I I cuddle up with it you should just always take a video or picture of me every time I use this blanket
Starting point is 00:01:47 because that's every single day it's warm, it's cozy it makes a great gift for the holiday season's coming up we also have this amazing fur tote and I love this too both me and my mom use this all the time There's so much on there.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Go to just trish.com. I forget to talk about it, but it's great. And we love it. Hads, too. Oh, yes, there's hats there. There's so much. So get it before they're gone because once we get new styles in
Starting point is 00:02:09 for Black Friday, we probably will stop selling these styles. So get them while they're hot. Also go to Patreon. Patreon.com slash Justrish. We work hard over there as well. We do bonus episodes for you guys every Wednesday. And then we do an additional video
Starting point is 00:02:23 for you guys on the weekend, me and Oscar. So we just work overtime over there and we love it. It's so much fun. There's always a new headshot. The headshot I just sent out last week, so we don't have that one. I'll take a new headshot next week. You missed it again.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Oh, my God. You missed it again. I can't believe it. Sorry. Guys, come on. Sign up before the 10th of each month to get it delivered on it before the 20th. We shipped them out on the 15th. So I was sending them all day yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Those were a lot of fun. And we're having a lot of fun. Okay. My co-hosts of life, really. Now we're just a duo officially. We went out together this weekend. Oscar. Gracie
Starting point is 00:02:58 Trisha Kay Pater Oh the K is What's your Mary? Is it Harry? My middle name? It's definitely not hairy What is it?
Starting point is 00:03:09 There is someone I know That has a middle name Erie and I don't know who it is Jousie? No Brandon Oscar You look like a Brandon actually
Starting point is 00:03:17 Okay I see that more than Oscar Oscar is Oscar is interesting It's like I think of like Who do you think of anything Oscar? Quick.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I guess the bologna is the first person I think of. I think Oscar the grouch. Okay. Oscar, what do you think of Oscar? I think of the statue. Oh. That's so crazy. We all think of different Oscars.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah. Yeah, you don't seem like an Oscar. You seem like a Brandon. Well, maybe you seem like an Oscar. I guess that's a mean thing to say since that's your name. But you look like a Brandon. When he said that, I was like, ooh, Brandon. Yeah, when I was younger, I wanted to be Brandon, actually.
Starting point is 00:03:53 When I was, like, in elementary school. And you didn't go buy it? No, no. I think I just wanted to be whiter when I was a kid, which is kind of sad, but kind of funny also. Brandon, yes. Okay, yeah, right. Brandon is a, what did they name? Where was that name from?
Starting point is 00:04:08 I honestly have no idea. I'm named after my dad, my first name, Oscar. And Brandon, you don't know where you're going on? Brandon, I have no idea. It does not Irish. No Irish and you. No. A little, maybe?
Starting point is 00:04:18 23 and me? I've never done one of those ancestry things because Gracie is also can be an Irish last name as well. Yes. Wait, that's. So you're two-thirds Irish without the Irish? Maybe, but my daughter is, like, his whole family is from Peru. His like, yeah, he's family's native Peru. They're like Incan, so. Maybe an Irish person snuck over there. I don't know. Okay. I don't know. Interesting. And then your mom is Cuban. 100%. Yeah. Okay. All right. I know. I don't want to take one either. Because like, what if, you know, what if you find out something? You know what I mean? It's just like, I don't know. What if I find out like your dad's not your dad or something? I know. I know. Well, I'm always gagged by conspiracy, I guess. But, like, when they keep the genealogy and, like, you know, they keep it in a database. I'm like, okay. Wait, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:05:03 When you do one of those, they, like, they can keep it in the database. And then if anyone in your family does a crime, they can, like, go in and then build a family tree based off whoever did a genealogy test, like 10 years ago. Wait, why would they do that? To solve crimes. Oh, just solve crimes. I thought you meant someone could kill someone and take your identity and then have your family. Okay, no, but that is a twist. Maybe a white lotus, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:27 From slaying people to slaying Getty Images. Yes, that's where we were going. We are. Is that your first? I saw someone say it was your first. Baby's first, Getty Image, yeah. No. How is that possible?
Starting point is 00:05:37 Because I saw someone say that. I'm like, but you've been to more carpets than anyone. I never, I mean. You don't walk it? No. Every time I've done one, like, to cover, a lot of the hosts do do that. To me, it's kind of embarrassed. It's a me thing, though.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It's not like for everybody. It's just for me. It's like, well, no one really cares about. You know what I mean? So it's like, why is why is, Oscar for me, is he going to go pose on the carpet just because, you know, the photographers are there. To me, it's embarrassing. Can I tell you? Same. Same. Honestly, same because it is like, you know, when people show behind the scenes, like, no one's taking pictures
Starting point is 00:06:08 and you're just standing there like that. Like, we got there super early to Wicked. The only time I ever did red carpet was Wicked. And it is embarrassing because so many of them don't know. And you could be like so famous and like are so like online present and they have no idea. Like, yeah. It wasn't that many for me at Wicked at the time we went. Like it may be was like, well, we saw, I think I have one Yeti image up there. You know what I mean? Like, it is, and like, it shouldn't be embarrassing, but like, it is in a way, because it's like, why, why am I posing here? Like, you want to take my picture, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:36 But sleigh to the people who can do it, because honestly, literally slay to, you know, you want to feel, you want to feel good. I love the people too who do it and no one snaps a picture and they still pose. You got to fake it until you make it. That is the people who don't get that embarrassment or shame, they end up going far Because you got to just keep doing it until something sticks, you know. So I shout out to it. I wish I could be more like that, but I can't.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah. I get too embarrassed. This one was more like candid Gettie Image. It wasn't necessarily red carpet. And the Gettie Image photographer was grabbing us being like, need you guys. Like we didn't even have to go hunt it down on it. She was just like, I need you guys to take a photo with Demi. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:14 That's the best. That's the best when someone says that. So then you don't have to be like, can I get, you know, what I mean? Bothering. It was, it was amazing. We did a good. I looked right away. I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:24 where is it? Where is it? And we, we did good. Yeah, we kind of ate. Yeah, we did E. I like, I like the pictures.
Starting point is 00:07:30 They turned out, you know, we had Demo Lovato on the podcast last week, which is so crazy. Then we're co-hosting her video premiere, music video premiere, which is also crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Because we're in, it's like a party. It's like, yeah, it's like an event, really. And it's like all these just fabulous, good-looking girls, gays,
Starting point is 00:07:53 Everybody just, we know a lot of people. A lot of people knew you. Everyone was like, shout out Tetris from Billboard. I know Oscar. And also, I will say, like, love all influencers. And like you said, fake it, too, you make it. But I love the ones who are so legit and are so humble. Because when I met Tetris, he's just like, yeah, I work at Billboard.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Like, just thinking, I don't know, like working on articles or something. Like, literally the face of Billboard at every event, like with every single person. Like, he's like so out there and like living the dream life. And I was just like, okay, Humble King, because he literally just did come out. And I was like, oh, I know Oscar, and I work for a billboard. We should do something together. And I was like, yeah. And then I looked at his Instagram.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I was like, oh, my God. But so many people were like that. I looked them up later. And I was like, oh, they should have told me like they're like, like, and we saw Coca-Mocca, which I love, um, met Pop Crave. Did you meet Pop Crave? Yes, the Pop Crave. Um, not, I saw him as we were leaving, but I met him before.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Oh, you did. Yeah. I didn't know. They're like anonymous. They don't ever show themselves. Yeah. Well, there's Pop, it's kind of, Popgrave is funny because there is like. Multiple.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's multiple people with the access. But I think he is the, yes. There's two of them that started. And I was like, whoa. And we actually did take a picture, but I think they were cropped out of it because they like to be, which is crazy because they look like really cool influencers or celebrities or something. Like I saw them and I was like, they look like somebody. You know what I mean? And they are, but they just keep themselves anonymous. And I'm like, why don't you show yourselves? Because you're so cool. But I guess it takes away the, I guess the overall appeal, the general. appeal maybe if you see the person maybe it becomes more about them the person versus yeah yeah I agree so that was really cool I was star struck by everybody me too and for context you we didn't even really know for sure it was going to happen yeah because I think you said that they wanted us so was like a couple weeks ago and it was something I was like so much stuff doesn't end up coming to fruition so I'm like okay yeah I'm like I'll process it when I have to but this really was like I feel like not 100% locked in until what like the day before you Yeah, I didn't know either.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And those, yeah, the things changed so much. And, you know, parties change or who they want to do it or what they're doing changes so much. So we didn't know. We were so. And yeah, I think even before we even thought or like Demi was even an option to be a guest because obviously we like love her. And they were like, oh, do you want to like host a Demo Lovato thing?
Starting point is 00:10:08 And I was like, oh, yeah. And I was kind of the same way. I was kind of like waiting to be like, okay, is this going to happen? Because I don't want to get our hopes up. You know what I mean? And then when we got to tell me on the podcast, I was like, oh, my God, that's so cool. We got to like meet her. and then it could have gone in one or two ways, like, does she still want us to host?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Or she's like, maybe not, you know, so that. And then it was cool that way. They were like, yeah, she still wants to come and we're like, oh, my God, that's so cool. So, yeah, I know, I know it's cool. That's anything anymore I really try not to talk about until like it happens. It's announced. I'm there. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Because the getting images are up. Because that was happening a lot. And then one time I remember the wicked screening, I had said, oh, the getting images are up, can we post it? And they took them down. And I was like, no, they're still down. They never went back up. I was like, I should have said anything.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So, yeah, it was, it was wild. We premiered Demi Lovato's new music video here all night, which is, we were all saying it's, like, so good. It's like, really good. It's really good. Genuinely, yeah. The vocals are, like, amazing. Like, it's actually just so catchy.
Starting point is 00:11:06 The beat production, yeah, it has been in my head since we heard it before she came, like when we just heard the little, what was it, like the sneak preview or whatever? It was in my head. And then finally being. able to, like, stream it has been so fun because I'm like, I know it's so cool. I know, and Hannah Lex Davis was there, who was the director, who's director, like, so many iconic music videos.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And on the way there, we were just, like, listening to all the songs. And it was just, like, so fun. I mean, she's done so many. I mean, she's done a lot of, like, iconic demi videos, too, like, cool for the summer. But she's done, like, seven rings. Thank you next. Like, Hannah Lux Day. And also, she was so, like, she's worked with every, like, A-list celebrity,
Starting point is 00:11:43 but then still was, like, so chill. She just came, like, hug you and gave you a- No, she literally was like so nice to meet y'all. Like, so nice to meet you. And she's been like, obviously, yes, doing all these music videos. And we used to have the same hairdresser. So I used to hear so much about her and, like, how cool. And I followed her on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I was like, oh, she just went to Disneyland with her, like, kids. I don't know. Something about her was just so cool. Both her and Demi, people are just very humble. Yeah. And also, I feel like it was so camp when, um, the whole theme, the whole vibe was gays and girls sitting on the couch watching music videos. That was the theme of the party.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And then it was a whole back and forth of like, what do we win? Because immediately, when you first told me, I was like, oh, is it going to be, like, at a gay, like, venue or something, I'm going to have to serve. So I was already, yes. So I was a little anxious over that. And then when it seemed like it was going to happen, I was like, okay, I need an outfit. I need a serve. And it was like three days in advance. So I bought these, like, bougie crystal pants that I have since returned.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Wait, why? That's so good on you. You're so expensive that I can't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I can't do this. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But, and then after I already got those pants, which were like such a paint. Like, it was like, I had to find. find them in stock. I'd be in my size. I'd be somewhere that was in L.A. because they couldn't ship in time. So it was a whole ordeal. It is hard when you don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yes. I was the same way. I was just thinking like I wanted to like search. I even saved a dress. I ended up wearing it for like a bloom picture. But like I would save that dress because I was actually the chapel rhone dress that I was going to wear if we interviewed Chapel Rhone. But it was Chapel Rone at Olivia Rodriguez.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yes. The pink. Do you remember that? Yes. It's the flowers and stuff. And I had that made forever ago. It finally fits again now that I'm not pregnant. I was going to wear that.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I was like, because I was going to wear it last week for Hot Topics. I was like, let me save it in case the Demi party happens. But then they were like, I know, I was so stressed about it
Starting point is 00:13:26 because you don't want to come overdressed and you don't want to go underdress. What is worth? Underdressed or overdressed? I think under. No, but there were some people that were in like pajamas. Like I thought this was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:34 we're literally sitting on a couch watching music videos. So it was like, it could have gone either way. Demi had it right. She had the little slip nighty. I was like, ooh, that's what I should have probably. Because when you did inquire about, like, what the dress code was, they did say, like, cute, casual with a, with a hint of see you next Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Right. And then we were, like, analyzing, okay, but what does that mean? What is casual with, like, a hint of? I know. Like, okay, we got to look at that. Mine definitely wasn't. When I looked at the getty images, I definitely was, like, underdress. That's why I brought the burk in.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I was like, well, that kind of dresses it up a little. But I, I, you had it right. You wore jeans. But in my head, I was thinking, like, okay, I didn't know how we were presenting. I'm like, are we, like, you know, my thing here is, like, when I wear jeans, I always think I look so cute when I stand up. But then when I sit down, it can whatever. So I was like, okay, are we like sitting on a couch, like premiering?
Starting point is 00:14:19 Tea, thank God we were standing. Yeah. So I think if I knew we were standing, maybe I would have gone with, maybe I would have worn the sparkle jeans too that I wore when Demi was here, you know, was something. But maybe that would have been too much. I don't know because she had it so right. Yeah. And everything was just so vague too.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Like, we didn't know how big or small it was going to be. So then we got there, it was kind of like gay house party vise, which was kind of everything. Yeah. But that was the other thing, too. It was like, we were kind of nervous. Because it was like, you wanted, Darian wanted to come.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Oh, yeah. Yeah. We were, first of all, we're the only two people who are stressed out. Everyone else was so calm and relaxed. But it's too bad with social anxiety. Like, having to plan something is crazy. Oh, I was next level. It's crazy. We were a mess.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Thank God I went to an event the week before. So I got a little bit out of my system. But same. I was literally like. We're overthinking every single thing. I know. I was, I was shooting not Love Line that day when we were texting because I was just like, and you texted me.
Starting point is 00:15:12 like, hey, can Darien come? And, like, instantly, I'm just, like, panicked. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know the rules. Is it a Denny's event? Is it, like, is it, is it an event with her label? Like, who do I ask? Do I ask her?
Starting point is 00:15:22 Do I ask her? Do I ask? Like, my agent. Like, who do I ask? So I was freaking out. Because Moses is so funny because the night before we were talking about it. And I got really stressed with Moses. Because, you know, obviously I love him.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I want him to come with me to everything, you know, for multiple reasons, obviously. But I feel like safe with Moses. But it was very advertised, like, girls, gays. So I was like, is it just a small, like, we're going to all be in bed together watching a music. And then Moses, you know what I mean? So I was like, no, you can't come. You know, I don't want to ask. So I was, then when you did, I was like, I didn't want to be like, no.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I was like, well, okay, if I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask for you. I was like, let me, maybe I can just throw in Moses there to do. And then, of course, they're like, of course, yeah. You know, they were like literally, like, didn't think twice of it. But I was so stressed because I'm like, I don't know the etiquette in general at a party. Do you bring plus, like, sometimes weddings, they don't want you to bring a plus one. They just want you, you know, and same thing with this. We just didn't know what the vibes were.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And so I was like... First, it sounded like you're going to walk into a house. There'll be a living room and everyone sits in the living room watching a video. It didn't sound like it's going to be like this huge court with a big inflatable screen. To me, it felt more of a party. Like you were thinking like, it's more low-key. When I got there, I was kind of like, oh, I should have been a little more because I was thinking a little too casual, I think, that I was just like at her house chilling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It was not in my house either. I saw a lot of comments saying, is this at Trisha's house, which it's not, yeah. Oh, I guess host. Like, yeah. Right. And it is outside. I would have it outside in the thing. So that would have been everything.
Starting point is 00:16:39 No, it was, um, they had, but it did feel like a Trish party for sure. They had like cotton candy. Yes. And churros. A lot of pickles, which is very tana-coded. There was a lot of pickles. Yeah. A lot of Jimmy Johns.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I met the Jimmy Johns people. They were very nice. Um, um, yeah, they had really good. They had like these mocktails, which we love. They had a little like mango. Oh, those were so good. They were so good. And they had a photo booth.
Starting point is 00:17:02 and they had cassidias, and, yeah, we were just, oh, goodie bags. Yeah. Really nice goodie bags. They had, like, a leopard one that everyone was carrying. It's like, where's everyone in the bag? They had one that had Demi's, like, logo on there. It was, it was cool. So, yeah, we had to host, and it was a music video party, which was really fun.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And they were like, okay, pick your favorite music videos. And the first one we played was mine bet on it, which the TikToks were wild. And I think some people thought, like, I picked it. my own. Can you imagine, like, you forcing everyone to watch bed on? That's, I think, what it came across as, and I was a little worried. And, um, no, they were like, you know, be fun if you played one of your music videos. No, that's, you're being too humble because Demi specifically requested either bed on it or
Starting point is 00:17:47 I love you Jesus to play. Because everyone got to come and like, the whole thing is all the guests got to like pick their favorite music video to play to be added to the playlist. Yeah. And Demi specifically requested bet on it or I love you Jesus. So you can't say no. But I would like, you know, knowing people are watching you, watch the video you're like do I
Starting point is 00:18:04 I think I was hyping myself up too much for someone who like Trisha's their own hype man and I was like but it's better than me standing there and being like uh yeah you know because Demi was right there she were like right there and she was like smiling and like I love this. She was living for it yeah so then I was like okay let me be into it too because truly you guys know I'm like not humble when it comes to stuff like I do love
Starting point is 00:18:20 my own music videos I watch them you probably hear me watch I watch them all the time I'm always watching my own music videos I think I'm so good at all of them so I do love watching yes but when Rolling Stone Billboard and Demi Lovato Adela, Kim Petrus are in the crowd. Hannah Lux Davis, you know, it makes it a little different. That part, yes.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yes, Hannah Lux Davis, who is like the music video director of our generation, Demi Labato, like, Disney Channel, Queen. I was like, oh my God, this is, yeah, it was, you know, but hey, thank you so much to kickoff for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. All right, you know, I've talked about this plenty of times in my 20s. My credit went down, down, down, which resulted in me, not getting a lot of life perks, the adult perks, buying a home, getting a nice car payment. With kickoff, you can start building your credit with on-time payments. My credit went down, not because I couldn't
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Starting point is 00:22:26 It was a role I was born to play, so I was very excited about that. But I just wasn't, like, mentally prepared to, like, chat with her, you know? And I'm just so gagged by her because literally I grew up with her. Like, I remember as the bell rings, I was like, it was the interstitial during commercial break. It was like a little, like, series, but it wasn't even the real show. I remember her YouTube videos with Selena. Like, I remember watching them in computer class. I remember going home to watch Camp Rock, the day premiered.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I remember all her albums. Like, I have a core memories to, like, every one of her albums. I remember, like, being in my room pretending to film music videos, so I really don't care. That one song she has was with Sher Lloyd. Like, I have so many core memories with Demi. So I was, like, very gagged by the whole thing. Even, like, when we walked in and Demi was just, like, right in the kitchen right away, she's like, hey, how are you? I'm like, it's so fierce.
Starting point is 00:23:19 No, same. I love pickles. Like, I just had a big, I had a big pickle in my hand, and I just taken a bite. and I'm chewing pickle and juice and she's right there. Moses, I think at one point takes the pickle from me because I was like
Starting point is 00:23:31 standing there holding this pickle and like I love the pickles because we had just walked in and the first thing we see is the pickles and I was like oh this is cute like let me do one for TikTok you know what I mean and I was just like yeah
Starting point is 00:23:40 I felt that for you because I know how much you don't like pickles well look here's the thing I was like oh my God the pickle and it's like just give me the pickle and it's like
Starting point is 00:23:51 the first thing we see well because first of all the pickle I love a giant pickle you know what I mean I don't like to necessarily eat them, but, you know, like, I love the aesthetic of one. Anna Nicole Snooky. Like, I love the idea, like, Tanna, Pamela has pickles now. Like, Hawker, I'll eat pickles.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So I was like, okay, I'm going to try. Oh, my God, you're so right. Yeah, so I really did. And then, yeah, like, turn around and she's, like, right there. And, like, just so sweet. Like, besides everyone, she's, like, so nice. And, yeah, I'm just sewing a pickle. Yeah, we are, like, different generation, but I do know Demi, obviously, being, like, iconic
Starting point is 00:24:21 for her, like, music after. I, like, first found out about, like, knew it came to know of her. obviously X Factor but then like just like hearing her like actual like sing it's like oh she's like an actual good singer in seven and she is like superstar I mean she's just what whatever you know her from whether it's like memes or her TV shows or her songs or you know whatever just her life you know and being open and her documentaries all stuff it is like a superstar and you like and when you're in her presence it does feel that way so I also was very nervous and I think I kept I kept saying that to Moses after I said it to you I was like I was like weirdly like nervous like I just
Starting point is 00:24:54 even people I followed for like forever a long time I don't know there was something about her that just made me very um she's very sweet I think just like so sweet and so nice so then I'm just like sweating and I was just but I think it went well I really I really liked her she was just very cool I'm very yeah they're like genuinely just so normal and nice and sweet and I think you can just tell like she's in such a good place now is really found the balance in her life between like work and having like her private life and obviously being married like and it's also just the emotional aspect of like, oh, I grew up with her and there's so many times where literally
Starting point is 00:25:28 she was near death at certain points, you know, and like being the same age as her too, I don't know, it's just so weird. It's like, I don't know, it's trippy. It's so trippy. I'm like weirdly proud of her, but I don't know her. I don't know. I think that's why people like love her so much because same. When we were doing like before the interview, obviously I do the deep dive, I'm watching all these documentaries that I hadn't watched before and just, yeah, the struggle she's gone through with so much. And also just being really open. about it and like being like same it was like you made it through like yeah she was the first person i remember who was like open about like depression and stuff like you know like i remember being like
Starting point is 00:26:05 15 or 16 and that's she's kind of how i found out about you know the mental health struggles and stuff so it's all very and she and she said here she's been struggling she's had you know struggles since she was like seven you know with mental health and so i was like damn like that's why i think everyone feels like proud because it's like you really built like a amazing career and like life and like love and everything through all of that. And you're so happy, like, she's just so happy now. And just nice. Like, again, like, uh, I know we always like, are a little, but it is like a little
Starting point is 00:26:33 podcast compared to like a lot of these other people who like, you know, she went on chicks in the office and, you know, Jake Shane obviously is a huge one. Like it's all these guests. So it is like, oh, it was. I think everyone was like gagged. They're like, what? Like the superstar. So we appreciate Debbie so much for picking this podcast.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Like that was for choosing us because, you know, we talked about it. one of the sounds we used was literally like, you know, I have a big guest coming and Oscar being like a month ago, like Demi Lovato. I wish. You know what I mean? Like that's so insane because to me that was like,
Starting point is 00:27:01 yeah, it's just wild because we have, you know, we have a few drinks out there and stuff and it's cool that Demi said yes and showed up and came very far too, by the way. And she wasn't even, for some reason I thought someone had told me
Starting point is 00:27:12 she was like in the area. I know. They were like, oh, she'll be in the area that day. So no problem. We're like, okay. Yeah. And she's like, no, I just drove out for you. And I was like, we're far.
Starting point is 00:27:19 We are far and like at least an hour probably and so it was, I don't know, it was really, it meant a lot and I was really cool. And I felt like one of those moments where I'm just like, oh, I can't believe like, you know, we got that chance and just to know her and obviously then get to go to her party. And I got to meet her sister and like, you know, just meeting her close friends and family is, is really cool. And like, yeah, I don't know. I really, I really liked her. I know. And they're all, like, her sister Dallas, her big sister Dallas was so sweet too. So sweet.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I love everyone was so excited to meet you. Oh my God. Which is so crazy. Because our sister, too, is like, a vocal coach. She had literally got to go home that night and do vocal training for these, like, superstars. No, it is, yeah, I do love getting out of the house. I should get out of the house more because everyone is very nice.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And same with you. Everyone was very gay. Everyone knew Oscar, like, so many people were, like, I love Oscar. When we go up to people and, it was very, and you're very brave. You, like, just go up and, like, don't. I'm more nervous. Like, I definitely followed you. I definitely was like, I don't know if I can just, like, go up and say hi to people.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like, I'm very more, like, I should probably just not say hi to anyone. But you say hi to everyone, which I love, I think, right? I don't, honestly, I don't know. I was, I was from mingling, which is rare for me. I think I just haven't done it in a long time. It does jump out because, like, from doing like red carpets and stuff, like you were just stuck next to people for a long time, so you kind of have to make small talk.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah. I just am very rusty at it, but I guess it can jump out. You were so good. You didn't even get a cassidyia. I was like, do you guys want to eat? And you guys like, no, we're just talking. The adrenaline rush. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Because then when I got home, I was hungry when you were home? Because you didn't eat anything that night. I know. And I was so excited about those churros, but I was just. is so locked in. We didn't get the Cheros either. Were they gone? Maybe they were gone because we were kind of...
Starting point is 00:28:53 No, we were walking past. I had one. It was really good. Where was our Cheros? Where were they? They were next to the cotton candy. And we were walking past and one of the workers, she, like, she was holding Cheros out, but you were locked in too because you were...
Starting point is 00:29:07 Where was I going? I don't know where... Oh, photo booth. Someone was holding Cheros and I went past it? Yeah. You were trying to find that photo booth. Now it all makes sense. I am, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Especially because it was like a house. It was like at a house. So it is kind of a house party, but like it elevated. So it was just, yeah. Everyone was very nice. Honestly, that's why I do need to get out more. I'm like, you know what? People are nice.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I'm so scared of people. And I'm like, you know what? People are nice. And if they're not nice, they don't talk to you. Like it's like no one comes up. It's not like back in like the early 2000s when I watched me was like she's all that and stuff. It's like people like go up to you to be mean to you.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Like dump a drink or something on you. And it's like nobody does that. I don't think. I don't know. Not to me. it hasn't happened and I feel like it would have but um yeah people are really nice and it was fun and I loved hosting together that was like I know what's next for us I don't know what maybe the kid's choice I was gonna say maybe golden glows but maybe we start small like kids choice more oh my god
Starting point is 00:30:02 call me Rosie O'Donnell we'll be there I love watching your host I'm like okay yes we're down let's do it come on golden globes we are open yeah I did love it it was cool yeah we like carpooled together we had a little shit I mean it was all we didn't really plan any anything, but... We didn't, but I thought we did good. Yeah, I thought so, too. We had a little, our little schick going. Yeah. Although we did separate very far.
Starting point is 00:30:23 We'd be bad presenters at the Oscars. But also, just because we're socially anxious, because we're like, there was one point where Demi, we had Demi come up to, you know, introduce your video. And I think both of our heads was like, well, we don't want to look like we're trying to, like, get her shot. Yes, that is exactly it. But then the Getty image is so wide. And it's like, I thought it was going to be close in on Demi on the screen.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And the Getty image is so wise. Let me just see us of opposite sides. That was so dumb. Because like obviously she wanted us to be there and we're like we should have just been supporting her. I looked like we were like left her alone on there. It's like bye. No, she because yeah, no, I know that was.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Social distancing. We did. And we both went opposite directions. We could at least go on the same side like presenters. But it was our first one, you know? So yeah, by the time next demi music video premiere will be like really good. Yeah. And you know why I have less judgment.
Starting point is 00:31:13 You remember we were talking about VMAs last week and I was saying how like Ariana and Mariah had that like awkward like kiss thing and I was like I get it honestly same I would probably like what do like it's it's very it's a lot but yeah we kind of nailed it and ready for another Getty image I can't wait to see more of your getting images it is so exciting I didn't even know a Getty image photographer is going to be there I was like oh my gosh okay so I know I didn't even know the photographer was a Getty image photographer yeah I didn't even know the photographer was a getting up yeah waking up to seeing that I was like work I was very exactly And then I didn't know if I should put, like, I, because I have a Getty Image account. So I'm like, I'm just going to download it. But I know the gag is to have the watermark. Oh, I love it with the watermark. Yeah. But it was just so low-res with the watermark.
Starting point is 00:31:57 So, like, let me just download. Oh, did you download it? Yeah, I downloaded the high-res watermark free, but. I love the Getty Image mark. And everyone's like, Getty Image. And then the viral moment was Demi holding the Rainbow Birken on, and she posted on her TikTok. I was like, ah. It was so fierce.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I love it, too. She's like. Because she just pointed it. She's like, I need to take a photo with that. Yeah. That was, I was gay. I was like, yeah. No, she's so fierce in every single way.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I look at her. I'm like, wow. And then she took it. And then she literally was just like. Serving. Oh, my. Inmediate serve. So much.
Starting point is 00:32:32 It was so funny. And then. Actually, CIA email. They want to sign the Birkin. They want to represent. Honestly. Just give it around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I did feel like that. I did feel like, you know, when they have, like, you know, when they have like those pugs and stuff and they did pictures. I have. Grumpy cat. Yes, I'm like, here, here. And I'm just, like, on the corner, like, again, trying to get out of the shop. But also, I was very excited.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I was like, this is so exciting. And I will never get rid of that working out. That is she made it iconic in every single way. Yeah, that was my, because, like, we were saying the theme was girls and gays. And so I was just trying to be a little. There was a lot of, like, there was a show that says it sounds gay I'm in. There was a lot of, like, gay. And I loved it.
Starting point is 00:33:06 It was all so gay. God, I went with a rainbow. It was, I didn't know, like, when we were doing photos, though. Like, I was looking through and I was just, like, giddy and all of them. but like so many people were serving and that was our part I was like I think I was trying to serve but I was just too excited to serve because then we took a photo with like Adela I was going to say yes and she was in the Netflix documentary the pop star academy she was in the running to be in Katzai now she's solo but we took a photo with her and she was like are we cute or are we serving and I was like oh good question and then we chose serving which maybe we should have them both of us looked very serious like almost like mad we don't know how to do We don't have to serve. Like, when they serve, there is this like, and I think we're trying. I can see it's trying, but both of us just look.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Like, I think it's maybe like our, I don't know, something, something was lacking. You need to imagine that the camera, you're trying to seduce the camera. Okay. You don't mean the camera is like the person across the room that you're trying to. Okay, Moses with this. Let me see you're serving. Look, go to the camera. Okay, exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:08 It's so hard. I should send, I don't even know if we want to post them. Because I was trying to post one, but I'm like, oh, I don't know. we both look kind of just mad and so but i can set it to jimmy i guess we want to look good we look good it just looked more like we were just like mad oh to you i had to edit um in phase tune i went and i went in there and i was like you can change like your like your like your mouth and stuff and i like went to the smirk option and i'm like okay let me make it so we're smirking yeah and then it makes your eyes like more like the sexy like you know
Starting point is 00:34:36 the smize and then the smirk did you post that the adela one i used because again we're very just like pissed off and then adela's like sexy serving and then we're just like mugshot kind of so let me go and make us look a little bit more smy it oh that's so funny because i think i posted what on my story but i was like oh i don't know we don't like you know oh i didn't need to see it now i love a little tune okay i should send you all the photos all the time i didn't know i'm so i'm so quick to post them i love posting right away so i like anybody if it's tan anybody i'm just i just want to post like i just like to post right away oh i'm a take my time kind of girl on even like an unsurious story.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I wish I could live more like you because that is kind of like the vibe. People are more like in the moment, but I'm like a very let me sit on it, filter it for a few days kind of girl, yeah. Did you sit on it for a few days? No, I did a couple hours and I was, but I was, because they're already out there. So I'm like, I got to be quick with it this time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Although I had the craziest thing, like as I was like going home and I still don't know why. I forgot the pass code to my phone, which is so weird. Whoa. And I still am very confused. Like, I don't know what happened if I was just like
Starting point is 00:35:46 overstimulated to where like I was having like short-term memory loss and I was locked out of my phone for like until the next morning because I kept, and I was weird
Starting point is 00:35:56 I was putting the numbers in and it was wrong every time and I was like, wait. No, oh, he thought he knew it too. No, neither of us knew it. Yeah. You remember got wiped.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Literally. And then I was like writing down in a notebook like the different combinations that I thought it could be and all of them are wrong. That is weird It was very weird And then I had to completely
Starting point is 00:36:14 Like reset my phone But I was trying to not Because I didn't want to lose Like all the videos And stuff from that night But I had no choice Because I literally forgot So did you lose it
Starting point is 00:36:21 Lose all the photos Yeah Luckily Darian took some So I still had some saved But What do you mean? It loses it if you restart your phone Because I didn't have it backed up
Starting point is 00:36:28 Like I had to completely wipe it and reboot it And I'm like a little I feel like I need to get a brain scan Oh my God That is scary But it's not We need a dog
Starting point is 00:36:38 You just need a dog A dog because that's how you found you first quote oh you need hallucinogens too oh and mushroom magic mushroom specific yeah right you do need a little it was very odd though I'm like but I mean it could be like I was very overstimulated and like also probably mix of like stress not sleeping over stimulation yeah could be a mix of all that I guess but but if both you forgot it yeah I guess I forgot it we're oh my I got a new laptop over tour I remember and I like it was the same thing I could not remember it was so weird I couldn't remember it was so weird too because it
Starting point is 00:37:10 It's something where I literally put that set of numbers in like 10 times a day. So how could I just like forget it? It's very. Oh, that is scary. Yeah. Did you remember at all or you just reset it? I had to completely reset it. And then I had to back up my phone and you had to know your passcode to back up your.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And then luckily I remembered like my Mac password. So I was able to get it from that. But I was very. That's scary. Oh my gosh. I have it. Yeah. So prayers up, I guess.
Starting point is 00:37:36 So if we ever forget something, it is genuine. You have baby brain. I have, I don't got on the nose. Oversimulation brain, just doing a lot, doing too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you feeling after last night's Emmys? Are you overstimulated? For sure.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It was a long night for, I feel like no one really cares about it. It's not really boring, right? Yeah, kind of boring. And it was just long. It was another, I think we did two to, like, 1130. It was long. It was very long. And it's not, like, fun, like, VMA's where, like, the girls are giving.
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Starting point is 00:39:51 The studio. Several. All the shows we talk about, basically, won here. All the shows, Moses. I'm just to say. No, no, no. Hacks. That's all you.
Starting point is 00:39:59 True. Okay, hacks. Traders. That's all you. Okay. Traders won? Yes. Traders won.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Yes. That's all you. I mean, that's. I mean, that's. I mean, that's. I mean, Greg was just the only thing exciting about the red carpet. Yes, shout out Corey King.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Shout out Joella. Corey King was Michael Jackson. Joella was a Lubbu. La Boo Boo. And her Mona Lisa was Miss Piggy. Oh, yeah. I was like, who is this queen? And then I saw they, yes, I remember Corey King talking about on the music video of gay being like, I want to be Michael Jackson, the Emmys.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And I think, I think they were trying to talk her out of it. Like, no, don't do that. And then sure enough, I wonder, was Rue there? Oh, I don't think so, actually. Because I know Michelle, like everyone knows. Yeah. Crazy. So maybe he, because he lost last year, he's like, we're not going to win this.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Maybe, yeah. I mean, love traitors, but I really do think drag race the season should have won. I was kind of gagged. I was kind of gagged that drag race lost again. So that's two years. But I guess drag race has won a lot. So maybe, you know, mix it up a little bit. Was I on coming there?
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yes. He accepted. Because he's the one that got it. Yeah. I guess I saw. Literally, I've seen nothing. I did see Walton Goggin. Shout out to Entertainment Tonight's Twitter.
Starting point is 00:41:10 They had posted him with his wife. And I was like, okay, that's all I saw. I was like, love this. Yeah, I was, I don't know. I don't really live for Emmys, particularly. Jenna Ortega looked amazing. She was in a Death Becomes her outfit, I saw. I was like, okay, love that.
Starting point is 00:41:25 That's, I think, a Halloween costume of mine this year. I was like, not that particular one. She plays the woman that's like the anti-aging potion lady. And I was like, oh, that was good. She looked great. I love seeing her. Who else? Was there?
Starting point is 00:41:35 anyone serving anything. Is there performance as Emmys or not? No. Reba and Little Big Town perform the Golden Girls theme song if you're into that story. The Golden Girls! Oh, I love. I love Reba.
Starting point is 00:41:45 It was a tribute to Golden Girls. Okay. I love that. And in Memorium, there was a performance for that, but that was about it. And it was weird. I actually don't know. But it was kind of weird this year. The whole, there was a gag.
Starting point is 00:41:58 It was very controversial. It was a gag where the host Nate Bergotsi, the whole thing was like, You have, the winners have 45 seconds only to do their acceptance speech. Okay. And if you go over that amount of time, there was like a pot that was going to be donated to the Boys and Girls Club of America of $100,000. So any minute you, any second you go over, a thousand dollars would be subtracted. No.
Starting point is 00:42:22 What? So, and they have the counter, like on the screen as people were presenting based on if they go over or under. If they go under, a thousand gets added per each second, but if they go over, it gets subtracted for the Boys and Girls Club of America. Oh, that's interesting. Okay. So if it goes under, it gets added.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah. But it was kind of odd because you see the timer. I think the bit was just like continued throughout the whole night. And then any time it cut back to like Nate Bergotsi was the host, like that was his bit. He kept like talking about what the donation pot was at. So the bit was just continued so much. And then to see like a timer and, you know, sometime it, you kind of have to have a balance. Because yeah, there's some speeches like, God, who's that one?
Starting point is 00:43:02 guy at the Oscars that um he was in the architect movie the architect yeah he was in this his name you like him Adrian Brody yeah yes his speech was so long you know yeah he's too much but I do love so very handsome you kind of have to run the balance of like keeping people in track Hannah that won from hacks she had a beautiful speech like I would hate that if that speech would subtract the money so what happened with her did she did she go under over she went over but she was like whatever I'll pay I'll add money to it or whatever but Oh, yeah, that's so awkward then because it's like, why are you making the celebrities pay? Like, what?
Starting point is 00:43:36 It was a weird bit. Yeah, especially like Hannah's speech was like shouting out. Like, it was like FI is shouting out Palestine. So it was like just a weird thing. I also have like the timer for a charity go on out. She's like making this. A statement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:50 So it was weird. I feel like they shouldn't have done taking the bit so far. Because it was a couple years ago when Conan hosted one where they put, God, I forget who it was. but they put, like, an older actor in this, like, last case and was like, we only have three hours. If we go over three hours, he's going to run out of oxygen. It was, like, a joke. But, I mean, that's, like, more of a funny joke than, you know, charity.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I feel like you're messing with charity. Right, right. Yeah. Also, if you're trying to raise money, make something that you can raise the money. So people get excited. Like, oh, my God, we have to 150, 200. Yeah, they should have just kept it. Like, if you keep it under, we'll donate for every second, $1,000.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Versus subtract. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Subtracking is crazy. Yeah. And then some of the presenters were longer, like the people presenting, they took their bits longer than the people accepting their award. So that was a big criticism, how all the pacing was like a little all over the place because of that bit.
Starting point is 00:44:45 But I guess at the end, none of it even mattered because they were in the negative, like they were from the donation pot. But then Nate Burgoszi donated money. And then he said CBS will also like double it. So it really might not be. Yeah. So it was weird to have that bit and then have it before nothing. Who's Nate Bargazzi? He's a comedian
Starting point is 00:45:02 A stand-up comedian Was he good? No, but I think it's because Everything was about that bit Like he didn't really have jokes Because I don't know him But like I know a lot of people who really like him And like say he's really funny
Starting point is 00:45:16 And like he tours and he sells out You know these big venues and stuff So everyone's like He's really funny But like he I think because of everything Was going back to this bit And it was so awkward
Starting point is 00:45:27 That it made it out kind of weird Why don't they just make award shows longer. This one's already three hours. Well, part of out three and a half, you know? Like, by it, they're always,
Starting point is 00:45:37 I guess they don't want it to be that long. They want it to be short. But speeches you shouldn't cut to 45 seconds. So you should give everyone at least. I know, because that is the whole point. Like, you know, obviously some of them are winning,
Starting point is 00:45:47 you know, like Gene Smart from Max is winning her seventh Emmy. But for some of them it's their first and they never thought they would have the opportunity might not ever get it again. So it does suck for you. Yeah. Would you a speech be in,
Starting point is 00:46:00 45 seconds. Ooh, that is a good. I'd probably have, I'm so bad at having a genuine, like, emotional moment that I'd probably have some joke. Oh. Hannah Eindler had, like, a bit, obviously, before she got, like, political. But she was like, it honestly, I thought it was more of, like, my thing that I didn't win.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I thought it was more a punk rock, you know? Oh, okay. So I'd probably make some joke like that. And then, yeah, probably ended on, like, some, you know, brave political statement at the end. Oh, wow. Yeah. I think mine would be monkey with hands crying, emotional.
Starting point is 00:46:30 What? Wait. Wait, that's just, and then walking off. And the entire, I'll do that as his speech, hands, monkey, hands covering eyes, emoji. What did he win? Yeah, he did win something. You never saw that. It's on pop culture moments on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And all he says is like, emoji monkey, monkey, hands of our eyes. Thank you. Okay, that's actually tears. I actually love that. And I was like, I wouldn't do that if I won like a... I actually love that. I love Tyler. I think he seems cool.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I would want you to do the... You would go up and then it's like your video, I'm no longer speaking. And then it's just you for 45 seconds, like... Silent. Yeah. What if I went in there and just been silent? And just, what if you just take it and go? Just like leave.
Starting point is 00:47:17 That also me... That was me at Homecoming Queen. When I won Homecoming Queen and I literally went and got my crown and I left. I think I maybe did a dance. I think maybe I did one dance with the homecoming king. And then I was like, bye, got to go. I just wanted the crown. I probably do that.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Did you find it? Monkey covering eyes emoji. Thanks. I kind of love that. Is it a streamie? It must be. It must be. I mean, we love him,
Starting point is 00:47:41 but what else would be? Teen Joyce Award maybe back in the day. Oh, maybe, yeah. But I don't see a surfboard. So I'm assuming it's a stream. Right. Yeah. That is really camp, actually.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I love it. I love that short, sweet to the point. Yeah, I don't know. You know, did you ever try to watch a studio? No, Darian, as Moses does, loves the studio. He's seen it three times now because he keeps convincing people to see it, but I'm not standing strong, yeah. I don't know if it's that good.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I don't know if it's for me, but I respect the artistry, you know. That's how I am about all of the Emmys. Yeah, for sure. People like something. Moses, even after they won all the Emmys, he's like, yeah, there was an episode of the office, what is it called? The studio. There's an episode where they are in an award show.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yes. And he's, and Seth Rogen is the producer of the, show, but he really wants to be mentioned in the speech because his mom is watching the show. I thought he's just the network. He's not a producer. He's the network. I mean, he's the one that green lights a project, let's say. Yeah. So the whole episode is him trying to convince the actress, which was Zoe Kravitz, to mention him in her speech. And it just goes crazy. And it goes crazy. Sounds crazy. Sounds crazy. Even when he's explained to me, I was like, I know when I lose her even when I'm explaining. Oh my God. That one was really crazy. I was
Starting point is 00:48:58 really trying to follow it and I was like I don't know what's happening I mean look they won all those awards it just doesn't sound interesting like the way not the way you explained it but just in general it's just like oh they won an Emmy and he wants to be talked about I'm like okay that's the whole plot but when you actually watch the series of events you know it's like everything goes wrong and everything goes well let me not knock it in case they want me on season two you know that's exactly it's kind of like again it's like hacks in a different perspective like a different type of humor but It's like hacks.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It's a behind the scenes of a show. I just, I couldn't. It's the perfect place for them to have you because it would be like a media, somebody from social media. True. Jake Shane vibes. Yeah, you could be like the Jake Shane over there. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I think I would be more fitting for that. Who is like an influencer? Maybe like Matt and Abby seem like the studio type. No. No. It's all about Hollywood. So you have to have glam. You have to be glamour.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Oh, but the show's not glamorous. I don't think. It is. They have all the biggest A list stars on it. I told her whole episode with that Capron imagine being on that episode yeah it's just all
Starting point is 00:50:04 it's like all about Hollywood basically and what it takes to you know get her show going and all that yeah yeah give me an audition
Starting point is 00:50:11 I have you I have you edit this out I was thinking though I was thinking about White Lotus I was watching the new 90 day fiance
Starting point is 00:50:19 and one of the girls is French and she's curvy she's like a plus size like model influencer and she left France because they were body shaming her
Starting point is 00:50:28 too much over there. But so then I was like, damn, would France be too mean to Tricia if she was on White Lotus? Oh, I love that. You thought that. That's literally the whole time I was watching and like she's crying because her husband wants her to move back to France, but she was like, no, like they were so mean to me. They would just talk about my weight and everything. American or French?
Starting point is 00:50:46 She was American? She is French and she grew up in France and her family is French and they were, like, she left because they were so mean to her about her body. So she came to L.A. And she became like a curvy girl influencer. oh yeah she's so fierce and so gorgeous and she was in the beginning of the show she's like doing a little like TikTok shoot with all her curvy girl friends
Starting point is 00:51:06 and then she's telling them that she's moving to France and she's like crying she's like I'm so scared about moving back because I left because they were so mean to me and then the whole time I was like oh my god would Trisha be okay or white load of France but then I was like oh but that could be a good like plot like you know that you could be the American who goes to France and like you're so hot here and like expecting to get that treatment and then people are over there being mean to you.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't know if I'm so hot here. I'm like, I think in the old epic world. Go ask the girls engaged at the Demi Lovato party. They would say. Tee, yes. Ask them for sure. I know. People are so sweet.
Starting point is 00:51:37 They're always like, Bobby T. I'm like, is it? I don't know. It is. But that would be a dream role, especially. Okay, I always love this. When we watch Mike and Molly or any of those shows,
Starting point is 00:51:45 what's the new one, we watch? Oh, Drop Dead Diva. We love watching Drop a Diva. Every episode is literally just her using her fatness to, like, correlate with a case. What was the one? she went to a store to buy a dress but they didn't have her size
Starting point is 00:51:57 they stopped at size 10 size 10 so then she had to like use that against her case for inclusivity yeah it was it was kind of everything anyways so I would love to have a role like that because on drop that diva she always gets eat donuts and stuff so I was like oh if we got like white lotus and my whole character was to be like fat shamed
Starting point is 00:52:13 you could have like all the croissons all the baguettes all the bread you would want it'd be like such a dream actually and my makeup artist Ari she goes to France a lot she's always in France for like fashion week she said they had like really good pastas over over there. So I was like, that would be my dream to be cast on a show, taking place in France where I could eat all the good breads, all the good pastas, and then you don't have to worry about being skinny, you know? I'm not having to wear like a girdle or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I would love it. Hmm. There was no, um, there was no heavy people on Emily and Paris. I think that's why we stopped because I was like, not that, that's not why we stopped. But you know, you start feeling even like the head of, where does she work over there, head of something? Some fashion thing, right? Yeah, she's like, do you watch so have you I saw season one when it came out. So that was like 2021. I don't even know where she works. She's like a social media person.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Maybe it's a magazine. I don't know where she works. But even all the older people working there, they're all just very, well, were they all smoke cigarettes? Was that the thing? There was something that, I don't know. In general, in Europe people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:07 So I think it was just more of like, oh, I should not watch this because I was already feeling bad about myself. That's when we switched over to drop dead diva. I think literally that same day, right? I literally Googled shows with like fat people as the lead because I was just, honestly, it was just more, again, my own insecurities that I was like. like, okay, I need to see someone on TV. Like Mike and Molly.
Starting point is 00:53:22 What was the other one we watched with? Not Mike and Molly. There was another big girl. Oh, too much. Well, she's not big, but it was not a size zero. So I loved those shows. So I want to keep watching. So if you are a big girl out there and you're like, gosh, I want a show that doesn't
Starting point is 00:53:32 make fat people hate themselves watch. Watch Drop Dead Diva. It came out like forever ago. By the way, Jimmy loves Drop Dead Diva. He's like, that was. He's like, I can't wait to hear about it every week. And I'm like, period, because we just watched a bunch and we did binge watch it yesterday. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:53:46 But I actually gave Emily and Pear's a try. It was good. I did buy the MCM backpack that she had on episode one because that's as far as you made it. And she made it look good, honestly. I was like, ooh. Oh, and Gilmore Girls. I know we're past the Emmy segment,
Starting point is 00:53:57 but the Gilmore Girls were there last night. I know the Gilmore Girls reunion. Reboot? Is there a reboot happening? I think Lauren Graham has pitched before like a holiday special, which would make sense because Gilmore Girls is very like fall, winter, cozy vibe. So I hope they do.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And they were such a moment at the Emmy. So I feel like maybe that will inspire. They built a whole set. They built their porch for them. So I was like, did they do that for any? You're right. Why do they do so much? They really went above and beyond for the Gilmore girls.
Starting point is 00:54:23 They just went to Warner Brothers to pick it up. Honestly, T, yeah. I can't wait for that tour. We really need to plan that day too. Oh, yeah, we really do, actually. I feel like, yeah, it has to be like a Patreon day where we like figure because we have like so much, like even Halloween now is at Target. It's like, ooh, we could go get Halloween stuff for each other. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Boo baskets. That's a good idea. I had to have Moses help me with my boo basket, though. I'm really bad at putting together baskets. Like my boo basket would be like just the bag, like here, take all this stuff. I'm the one getting it, packing it. That is very true. You're good at packaging or no?
Starting point is 00:54:54 No. I think I, yeah, I'm not great, but I think I'm good. Yeah, I'm terrible. I like, I'm good at presentation semi. At least, like, if you look too close, it's a little crunchy, but from first glance, it, like, looks fierce. You would be able to pick mine out from a pile of presents. I don't wrap anymore because I met Moses, but I used to just, like, throw it over
Starting point is 00:55:14 and just put, like, a big piece of scotch tape on it. And I was just like, it's all together wrapped. It's there. I'm just really bad at it. Food presentation too. I'm really bad at. I'm just really bad at presentation. I don't know. Is it important these days? I guess. I think so. Yeah. Is White Lotus Cassidy? Is that why you're talking about it? Well, I think there must be getting ready to do the next season and they already tentatively have France as the location. So it must be approaching. And is Mike White not on the island still or what? He wasn't at the Emmys, but Survivor short. So it must be done filming by now. I would think it's only like a couple.
Starting point is 00:55:47 like two, three weeks. It used to be months, I thought, no. It used to be over a month, like a month and a half maybe, or a month. But yeah, now it's like pretty quick. It's like two, two, three weeks. But yeah. They won nothing last night. White Lotus?
Starting point is 00:56:01 No. That's kind of crazy, right? Because wasn't it like the biggest show of the year? It won't, it got a lot of nominations. But the problem is they put so many of the same actors and like, I mean, in the best supporting actress, there would be like three or four people from that cast. Yeah. So I feel like they just all, the votes were so diluted
Starting point is 00:56:20 because they put so many of the same people from so many of the same stars in the category, if that makes sense. Oh, I didn't know about that. I'm assuming. I would think numbers game, the probability of someone winning, if there's four of the six people nominated and you would think they would win, but I get what you're saying. They're kind of dividing the votes.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Yeah, because if you're like, oh, Carrie Coon, like, was the best part of the White Lotus. But then someone else's like, no, like Natasha Rothwell is like the best. You know what I mean? So versus, like, it makes it harder if you love the White Lotus to pick someone versus if you just loved, I don't know, Severance or the studio, whatever, and there's only one Severance star in the category. Like, oh, well, I love Severance. I'm going to vote for Did Severance win above White Lotus?
Starting point is 00:56:56 Two actors, because they're like a breakout actor. Like people made so many TikToks about them and celebrated their performances. From Severance. Yeah. He had moments in the show where he would like dance and do all kind of things that were so good, both cinematically and him as an actor. You liked it better than the White Lotus performances because you watched both. He definitely deserved his win. Because nobody stood out at White Lotus the way he did. I disagree. We had a breakout star this year.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And that was Walton Guggins and everyone loves him. Tanna loves him. Everyone loves him. He was the breakout star. He was already a star. Like he was already. I don't think so. He was in a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I definitely never knew his name. Like I was, oh yeah, that guy from that thing. But I don't know. Now he's like star. Like he. Because I guess if you saw specifically his performance, you would understand why. Because I remember when the cast for White Lotus was announced. I'm like, I don't know any of these people.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And then like they all became like amazing. just kind of the great. Walter Gogan's had a great acting. Like, he did great, but he didn't do what Chumel did as far as breaking out. I'm going to disagree, even though I haven't seen the other performance. I love it. I love it. There's a strong disagree.
Starting point is 00:57:59 That doesn't sound right. There's no one moment from White Lotus that you'll be like rewatch that scene. I think so. I think Sam Rockwell's monologue. Everyone was like, whoa, gagged. Right, but not Walter. Well, his reaction to it was. Like, remember his reaction was like so.
Starting point is 00:58:12 That's acting. Acting is reacting. That's what I've learned from my acting classes. It's the main part of it, which is why I suck as an actress, so they don't react. You can read lines with me, and I just, like, look at you during your lines, where didn't you do my next line? Like, I don't react right. And he reacted perfectly. He had great reactions, so.
Starting point is 00:58:28 That should be in your category. Best reactor. Best reactor. Well, that is what acting is. Oh, my gosh. That is what acting is. I'm trying to see who else was even in his category. I'm about Gray's Anatomy.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Isn't that still going? That doesn't get nominated for anything. Not anymore, not these days. Wait, really? they're just like we're done with it we're over it I mean it's still they're still collecting the checks and I feel like you know that is maybe that's all that matters oh yeah T okay so
Starting point is 00:58:52 Tremel one over Zach Cherry from Severance Walton Goggins Jason Isaacs and Sam Rockwell from the White Lotus James Marsden from Paradise and John Tutero from Severance I guess maybe my theory goes out the window then because it's
Starting point is 00:59:10 three Severance actors three White Lotus and then James Marston for Paradise. Poor James Marston. Watch, he should have won in you with your theory. I know. If my theory was to stick, yeah. And Judge Sorrell, I love.
Starting point is 00:59:23 He's in Severance. I love him. To me, he's like a Walton Gagons where he's like in everything and he should be a bigger star than he is. I mean, I know he's a big star, but like, I don't know if many people wouldn't know him by name.
Starting point is 00:59:33 And he did really, like, because his character was gay, but it was kind of like a closet, kind of hidden. And suddenly in the middle of the show, you realize that he is and he kind of realizes it's really. Oh, he doesn't even.
Starting point is 00:59:44 even know? It's not, it's just not in your face. Oh, he's getting outside, right? Is that the one where he's both? Oh, okay. But you never really, like, you never suspect the beginning and then slowly you start seeing that he has this kind of developing feelings to somebody. Serious role? In the office? Or comedy. Yeah. His role? Yeah. Serious. No, no comedy. I don't think. Because, like, I feel like a lot of people know him from like Adam Sandler movies, like Big Daddy and stuff like that, or like Mr. Deeds, where he's like the guy with the foot. But I love when he's serious. Like he was in Old Brother where Art Thou, he was in Secret Window. Oh, I love him in Secret Window.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yeah, he's like belt here. It's more like he takes his job very seriously. But then at the same time, he has this kind of softer hit inside. He's a really great character. I love him. Him and John Malkovich, I think they need to make a comeback. Maybe we'll get into Saffirons then. No.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Maybe I've walked in the conference, then I'd watch it. I can't get into something else I like an actor from the show. Or they're big. Like a big person. I forgot you meant big size. Yeah. I love a plus size. and anything.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Like, I would watch This Is Us. I know there's like a plus size actress in that. Like I want to watch. Yeah. I would watch it. I don't know what it takes for me to watch a show. I'm so bad at watching shows right now. I'm so bad.
Starting point is 01:00:58 You didn't start only murders? No, I don't think I can. I just don't know if I have the attention span for it. Really 90-day fiancé is like caught my eye and I'm like stuck there. And there's so many, you know, the 90-day cinematic universe. So I'm stuck in it right now. We were definitely 90 day, like the other way. We were watching all the 90 days for a minute.
Starting point is 01:01:17 But yeah, it does. It does get to be too much because there was a point where they're just like the island. And so all of a sudden it's like there's a cycle of them that's like overlapping each other. And there's just not enough to keep up with. And I'm all scattered right now because I started randomly with 90 day UK. So I got to know those divas first. Too much. Darius started the other way.
Starting point is 01:01:35 They messed up like there's the before and the after. And the timeline is so stretched out. Like where am I watching them? Yes. Because there's so many shows that are already. passed. Now it's just a reality show for those couples. Yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah, and this new season, I had to look up because there was one couple that was like from older seasons, the rest were new. And then I had to look up the lore and catch up. But like, I guess I'm a quick learner. I caught on pretty quick. I love it. How we came aware of it was I think it was during quarantine. I had just met Moses and I was getting tagged.
Starting point is 01:02:07 You know what I'm talking about? Do you know? No, but the concept of this is tickling me already. Oh my God, and they were so accurate. Did we ever use it as a sound? Because there's a couple named Nicole in Asman. Was that his name? Yeah, I think he was from Morocco, which you have Moroccan descent, and she was a plus-sized blonde that would go over, and she was, like, obsessed with him.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I'm dead. Did you look him up? Yes. Is it Nicole and Asman? Is that their name? Yeah. Okay. Oh, no, Azan.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Azan. Yes. Cool and Azan. Yeah, okay. Nicole in Azan. and she was so in love with him and there's a scene of them like hiking up these sand dunes
Starting point is 01:02:46 which literally reminded oh my god when we did the proposal that's all I could think of he's like come on just like and what did he take he's like maybe if you just worked out at the gym a little more
Starting point is 01:02:56 and I think is like huffing and puffing as we were going up to the proposal I was like thinking oh my God we're Nicole and ass in right now sand dunes are hard though mama I'll give you that sand is a tough terrain and then going up the hill of it
Starting point is 01:03:07 no that's rough of course she didn't know she know who was going to propose so she was like maybe we'll just stop here. I did say that. I was like, can we stop?
Starting point is 01:03:13 We have to make it. You were, that's what it was. You were giving acid because you're like, come on a little further because she also wanted to stop. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:20 we just physically can't go anymore and then we went all the way up there. Oh my God, that was yes. And everything, she was like loved him. But you would love me, right? Like, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:28 you love me just as I am. He's like, yes. But maybe go to the gym and lose it more. Like he was, but he was like nice. He was very nice to her. I think just like culturally.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah, the honest. Yes. Well, that part too. The honesty, after we were telling Moses when we met, I was like, you can't just say what you feel all the time. Like, you can't just say what you're thinking. You have to, like, take it back.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I think that's the one lesson you've learned from me in life is just don't say everything that comes to your mind. And I would tell him that. I remember, like, within a week or two dating, I was like, I can't even talk to you anymore because you're just blunt, mean, honest. I don't know, just too much. But anyways, I hope Nicole and Azzan are doing well.
Starting point is 01:04:03 She had a daughter, so I hope that they, she was thriving, though. She loved Morocco. She was thriving over there. She couldn't hold hands in public. He's like, no, we can't do that here. Remember that one, Danielle and Mohamed? Do you know them?
Starting point is 01:04:14 Oh, my God. These are classic 98 couples that you should look up to. He was another one that even on their wedding day, he said he couldn't kiss her because it was against his culture, which was not true. It was not true. He just made up a whole culture. Maybe we were just like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Right, right, right. No, I know sometimes you don't know. I don't believe it, yeah. But they couldn't kiss at all, not even on their wedding day. I was like, dang. That's pretty crazy, but I love, I do love 9-day fiancé. No, and you were even mentioned in some of those. Me?
Starting point is 01:04:43 Yeah, because. In 9-day fiancé? Was it Usman? What was his name? Oh, yeah. Oh, I had an era that I was entangled in all the drama. I'd get myself in the drama. What?
Starting point is 01:04:54 Yes, it was 2020. And I really went after the wrong people. I was weirdly, this is me and Moses. This was after we had met, but I was over Moses because he was, again, too blunt. Just don't want anything to do with him. So then I was, like, weirdly into 90-day fiancern. and it was a current season I was airing and yeah I would uh what was the name was a soldier boy yeah because because this is the time where people went live on instagram oh and you could join
Starting point is 01:05:17 people yes yes I was joining together so me and Uzman yeah his name was Usman and he was also known as soldier boy what was the song he sang oh man ah I'll find it god it was such a good one too and I did like I did a lip sync to it and he he liked me yes he did he was I loved him too. He was great. He was, he was a good musician. I liked his songs, but I would get in the lives of all these 90-day fiancé people. Because I was like, are they still together? Probably not. So I would like, honestly, I probably should have checked first because I was just like hitting on him. And he was very handsome. And there was another one named Jeffrey who ended up going to prison, which I know. Like I didn't know. Well, DVD, I think. Yeah. Yeah, very bad.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Very bad. Very bad. I know. I know. There was an era for sure. I didn't know, of course. but there was an error. I'd find these guys that did awful things. I guess now you just got research. I guess at the time we didn't know because he was still on the TLC show. And then TLC pulled him, I guess, when all these like things came to fruition. It was with someone before that he was married to before, but I was like going to go literally visit him. And thank God for Moses, like, saving me so many times in 2020. Because there was a couple guys I was talking to when I was like pissed at him. Again, we weren't dating. We like hung out for a couple week. I was doing OF at the time. And then I was like constantly like seeking other guys because
Starting point is 01:06:31 I was just like, I don't know, I'm desperate, I guess. And so I was like, what was his name, Jeffrey from 90 Day? There was another guy that, from Texas. And luckily Moses kept coming back in my life. So he kept being like, okay, maybe I should just go with this nice person. That's, like, right here in front of me, rather than all these awful people. Did you look up, Soldier Boy? So there's, I think this is the later song, I love you.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yeah. Is it I love you? Baby Girl Lisa. I think I did a, I love you, girl. I think I did a talk to the cell. Anyways, no one probably cares, but I love him. This is like the 90-day. What?
Starting point is 01:07:08 Oh, gee. I think they did break up, him and Lisa, and then I think he found another. This is the second season. Right. Kim? Kim. I think they broke up, too. He was getting those girls, though, huh?
Starting point is 01:07:19 He was getting the girls. Well, I guess they were women. They were kind of older women, which is a little. I think he had a young girl, though, eventually, too. I think he had a young, pretty girl. Well, one, in that season, he was seeing somebody. that she was in her music video. So Kim, the woman from here,
Starting point is 01:07:33 paid for his music and music video. And in the music video was the girl that he was actually interested in. Yeah. Well, these women are a little too old. They should know what the deal is. They were the sugar mamas. But he was a hot commodity.
Starting point is 01:07:46 So they're all very good looking. I do like 9-day fiancé. I like the concept of it of like finding love. You know, I think if there was a love as blind like that, we could host it. Right? If there was like a 90-day fiancé, like dating show like you want to yeah because they seek out like darcy and stacey they were on
Starting point is 01:08:03 an app for foreign men like some people just seek that out because let's face it american guys are just like not romantic so i get it i understood it and i was like ooh they should do a dating show like that where people are genuinely interested in like a different culture and want to date someone from that culture or something yeah that is very interesting mm-hmm yeah i think if you do i think it makes sense you know people are interested or you know they just go on a trip and they meet someone and it's cool because like people from i know it sounds like so obvious but like meeting from people from different parts of the world, like, only expands your mind and stuff. And you're like, oh, I'm pretty close-minded over here.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So I think that could be a good show, if done right, you know what I mean. So, Netflix. We're available to host. That's so fun, actually. Okay, 9-day fiancé dating show. And she would always want when we would go to airports, but I would, wait, who would be, like, I would be there receiving you, like, if she came to the foreign country. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I'd, like, pretend like you're picking me up from. With, like, the flowers. Yes, yes, with a sign. And he would do that. You did that this year even. Yes. I also want to do that. Yes, because when we would travel, I was like, can you just, like, stand out there and, like, pretend?
Starting point is 01:09:08 Like, if we were together. But then when I was traveling alone and coming back, I would always pretend. Because they always stand there with signs and flowers. I know what does that anymore. People just, like, stay in their car or park or whatever. Moses will park and come in and, like, pretend to pick me up. You don't do that? Daryon takes a shuttle.
Starting point is 01:09:25 You don't think I was going to make her to take the shoes. shuttle after she landed. And then shut up. He's out there waiting in the shuttle line. It takes a long time to get there sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Like, is it on a day that you go into the office?
Starting point is 01:09:38 I mean, it's usually random. I only work from home two days, like two days. Oh, oh. But yeah. He just travels. He picks random days and I'm like, whatever. Sometimes I'll be like, okay, just Uber. I'll split an Uber with you or something.
Starting point is 01:09:54 It's like really takes a long time. Yeah. You're right. Okay. But, yeah. In the beginning, the first two times he came to visit, I would, I think one time even landed in like the Long Beach airport, but I was during quarantine, so it was no traffic, you know, so.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Oh, did he live in a different state? It was when he lived in North Carolina before he moved, so I would go to the airport gladly. But now I'm like, get on that, get on that. Wait, how did you just meet that online? Instagram, yeah. He slid into your DMs or you slid into this? He slid into mine. How do you find you?
Starting point is 01:10:27 It was kind of random, a few months. Oh, my God, this was, I guess 2019, he, the, he had a thing with some, he had like a situation ship, I guess. And then he followed me, it was after I had a viral tweet about being skinny, ironically. What? Yes. He found you from that? I think so.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Wow. Because Taylor, it was, the Lord is really crazy. I posted like before and after, this was like November 2019. and it went viral I think because Taylor Swift liked it and then it got into like the gay Twitter sphere because I think it was just so like drastic Wow
Starting point is 01:11:06 And then the before and after photo Yes And then I think he followed me after that And then the guy that he had a situation ship Was mad at him for following me So then that guy followed me and DM me Be like you should follow this guy back He likes you and I thought it was a prank
Starting point is 01:11:20 Because they were like you know Twunks two twunks And I was like okay And then I followed him But then never talked and then randomly in March of 2020. He slid into my DMs. That's the lore.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Wow. It was a before and after photo. Because girls, I see girls that have lost like 100 pounds and they'll be like guys get upset when they realize that they were fat at one point because they think like genetically or whatever they're going to have fat babies.
Starting point is 01:11:42 So they're like, why did you lie? They don't like it. So I like that fact that he saw the before and after and he's like, I still like that. Oh, T. You know what I mean? Because I think some girls are like they don't want to see it before and after a guy.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Okay. Of a girl's body. Yeah, yeah. He liked you both ways probably. He's probably like, ooh, I like him. thick and I love that I love that he followed you yeah so that's the lore there oh my god I'll be sliding yeah Moses slid into my DMs too
Starting point is 01:12:05 wow okay work I know the only person to ever slide into my DMs no one literally ever did that so thank you and likely you so well do you remember what you said I don't even remember what you said just hello yeah the beginning was just like just trying to start a conversation yeah it was pretty cute that's pretty cute then we texted yeah same thing we might March 2020 so
Starting point is 01:12:25 we're just aligned universally oh my god I love that that's so cute I didn't know yeah you look cute today I like your blue pants I think
Starting point is 01:12:35 I was a year full body we did get him a new chair it just not here well it came it was the wrong measurements but you will blame Moses for that usually I get the wrong measurements
Starting point is 01:12:43 Moses said it was too small and I was like oh you know measurements so well because those chairs directors chairs there's two sizes like regular chair or tall but the tall
Starting point is 01:12:53 is somewhere in between those two So we'll get him, we'll get him, but you do, I do like the full, I like the Velcro shoes too. Oh, thanks. It's giving toddler. Okay. In a good way. Yeah, in a cute way. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Caleb, uh, here on, God, I need to pronounce, I'm so bad at pronouncing last name. Me too. Caleb, Heron. Yeah. I think like Katie Heron. Oh, that sounds right. Yeah. Like Caleb Heron.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Um, he said that he received a phone call from Mr. Beast and Mr. Beast apologized to him for But the time debacle where he was ranked more influential than Mr. Beas himself. I do love how Caleb handles everything because he's like, not wrong. And it's like, yeah, I like that. First of all, better than me, though, would never take a phone call for Mr. Beas. Mr. Beas. Like, hey, I want to call you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:41 No. I'm glad you said that because I was thinking the exact same thing. And I didn't know if I was just like messy like that. No, like don't call me. What do you mean? Like, I don't want to have association with you. I don't want to talk to you. Very Rosanna-coded.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I'd be like, no, don't call me. Oh, right. She's like, get in text or something. Yeah, look, respect Mr. Beast, I guess, you know, whatever, people like him. But especially if you, like, said that about me, like, I get it. It was like, whatever, he probably didn't know him or something like that. But I still would be like, no. Do a public apology.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I guess did he? He did tweet, yeah, but he was receiving a lot of hate for it. Yeah. Did he like at him? Yeah, he didn't at him. At me next time. And then we'll do a phone call. Go make a TikTok.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Exactly. Get on TikTok. Like, hey, I'm so sorry. Get on Instagram. story do something yes i saw that too i wonder what the conversation was he's just like i'm sorry and caleb's like okay we always does like he always wants to like he always deans and is like hey can we jump on a call so i can explain it he's one of those you know like that very james charles it is very james charles tees yeah oh yeah why do guys want to do that people want to get on the
Starting point is 01:14:44 phone so bad no thank you no he talked to someone else there was another person on twitter who did like a tweet about him that went viral and he like started deemming him a lot too I forget who it was, but it was another, like, influencer. But, yeah, Mr. Beast loves chatting on the phone, I guess. Yeah, phone calls, hot take seem manipulative. It's just because you can, there's most of the time, no, like, recording proof. So, I don't know. You can, like, do something.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And then also, like, you're right, like, emotionally can be more manipulated based on, like, yeah. If you call me, I will switch my mind instantly. Like, if you're calling me to do something, like, yeah, whatever you say, honestly. Because, like, I just want to get off the phone. I don't want to have this conversation. I'm like, I'm like, yep, you're right. Like, just leave me a little. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:28 But I wouldn't, that's why I wouldn't even take a call for Mr. Bees because I'm like, I don't want to be on your side. You know, I guess the chocolates are good. Did they ever send you the package? They had a PR sending to Moses. They never sent to. That's it. I want those chocolates.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Oh, maybe we're off the PR list now. You know what you should do? This would be such a smart move. And I feel like if anyone could do it, Mr. Bees could. It's like, do Monjaro or a Zempic in chocolate bar form. Oh. Like you eat it. just don't you're not hungry anymore yeah because i think it's in a pill they're making it's in a pill
Starting point is 01:16:00 form now yeah wait it's now someone told me i think they're starting to roll it out so might as well just put it in the chocolate maybe that's the next step he's like doesn't he call himself woolly wonka mr beast like you know that is his vibe yeah okay but do you trust a g lop1 formulated by jimmy don't know no but you know you got trust someone so might as well be mr beast I just thought his, what was his last challenge? Like, you think he handcuffed someone to their ex for, I don't know, I don't know how long it was, but you got like, a million, two million dollars, would you do it?
Starting point is 01:16:34 I don't have, like, a proper ex, so... Yeah, same. Like, what is it, X? It should be someone you lived with for more than, like, a year. Like, you should have to date more than a year, and you lived with them. In which case, I don't have an X, and I love that. Even, like, dating. For that to be a channel challenge,
Starting point is 01:16:48 it should be somebody that you have, like, a restraining order against. Oh, well, I don't know that. They obviously spent a lot of time together because they were together. So you handcuffed, they'll do it for money. Like it's that. I don't think so. What was the prize? $250,000.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Oh, was it just 24 hours, though? 30 days. Oh, what? Mr. Beast, you have more money that that should at least be $1,000. $250,000 and you're, okay, so let's say you're handcuffed to someone that you just cannot stand like James Charles and you for 30 days. Oh, my gosh. no I couldn't I'm not even trying to be I'm like genuinely not trying to be funny 150 that's a like you can buy a house I know but I don't think I would I genuinely don't
Starting point is 01:17:32 think I would survive because I well I guess the final hot topic I was researching I was like catching up on drama for the final hot topic and listening to like James Trump and again like I'm genuine I'm being so like this is me from the heart right now which it could be sad I don't know but it's me not even trying to be funny it's genuinely for my heart I was having to like listen to James Charles talk about Louis Vuitton Pallet, whatever, spoiler alert for the final hot topic. Oh.
Starting point is 01:17:58 And I literally was like, this makes me want to like bash my head. Like a genuine like, just the voice, you mean, poor thing. It's just not even like the voice. It's like the cadence, the delivery, the yelling. Coca-Cola. Hello. Yeah. The energy, the halter top.
Starting point is 01:18:14 All of it was just driving me up. The energy is a big one. There's a weird. There's an aura there. So it's $250,000 worth it if you don't survive. I don't think so. Like, I genuinely think I would have harmed myself. Or soul crushed, at least.
Starting point is 01:18:27 I think brain crushed. I think I literally would have like... It is extreme, but it is so... Okay, wow. It is so genuine. It is so real. It is so real. So no to that.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Not James Charles. Harry Jousy, I could probably do it. Because I feel he doesn't have a personality, so that's not that bad. Sorry. Makes it easier. I haven't slept, so... We love Howie. We love Howie.
Starting point is 01:18:51 We love Howie. We love Howie. I was he. I love her. I'll be, yeah, I'll be a cuff to you, sure. Why not? We can learn from each other, you know?
Starting point is 01:19:00 Yes. Different walks of life. He looked free at the Emmys. Was he there? Yep. Okay. That's good for him. Where any other influencers there?
Starting point is 01:19:08 I didn't see anyone else. You know, queen of red carpets, Haley Calil, Haley, so. Oh, wow. She does not miss red carpet. Okay. I love that. Do you think they get paid?
Starting point is 01:19:20 No. They just walk in. I don't know. they get invited and you know an invitation to a big red carpet well harry has a tv show coming right he's on the netflix bachelor or something he has been on netflix before yes oh so that makes sense he's in tv that makes more sense than like um true because maybe netflix yeah yeah you have to and maybe haley bailey's on a show i don't know she seemed like someone who'd have a show yeah tea this is not even a hot topic it just reminded me there's like um i guess there was video of a glen power like leaving a hotel or something
Starting point is 01:19:51 with, like, a girl, and Haley Bailey went to TikTok. Like, you guys, it's not me with Glenn Powell. Like, I just love, like, her inserting herself. Me. I let, she claim that people were leaving comments, like, oh, my God, this is Haley Khalil. But fierce, though. She's like, it's not me.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I love it. You guys, it's not me and Glenn Powell. No, always insert yourself. Always insert yourself to anything that you can. She is so can't to me. I kind of live for her. Yeah, same. It's like.
Starting point is 01:20:19 She just camp. Yeah. Did you see her, this is, this kind of hot topic, but with Ariana Grande's, like, ticket sales, people, the Arianators were like, because I think Haley has been, like, shady about Ariana before. Yes, yes, yes. And they were like, Haley, don't even think about getting tickets to the Eternal Sunshine tour. And then she was like, honestly, like, I don't want any of the smoke. Like, I'm not going to be trying to get tickets. And then Michaela, yes, had some beef with the Arianators.
Starting point is 01:20:49 And she's like, I got front row tickets. That is so wild. So it's those comments that people keep showing of her, like, shading Ariana's, like, packaging and stuff. Like, is that real? Yeah. Okay. I guess people checked it.
Starting point is 01:21:02 There was one thing, too, like, so Michaela did a TikTok, maybe like two weeks ago now about R. m. Beauty. And, um, Ariana left like a comment on it. And then Michaela didn't respond. Honestly, I could kind of see a world. I give it the benefit of the doubt for this one because I don't be saying comments or
Starting point is 01:21:20 anything too and she must her notifications must be crazy so I think there's a good chance you just miss even if it's verified ariano grande I feel like there's a strong chance you just don't see it because it probably would be at the top it was at the top but also it was a couple days like like she had already moved on and posted other TikTok like it wasn't like fresh like but I also think when someone comments on mine like even when Walton Goggins responded everyone was like oh my god Walton Goggins responded so I think actually you're right you're right she would know yeah like you would definitely know I always know like when Demi comments on mine Everyone's like, Demi Lovato commented, like, you just know, even on the new ones that you post,
Starting point is 01:21:54 did you see, did you see? Oh, good point, good point. And I'm with her, though. I'm like, I will give her credit, like, I'm a flip-flopper too. It's like, you know what I mean? If, like, you can say your packaging's boring and then also be like, but I want to come to your show, you know, but I think the real, I guess the problem is the real fans that it's sold out and, like, they didn't get their tickets.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Yeah, and I get, like, if someone is flip-floppy, and the tickets are so, I mean, it was like, so, war zones, I get these tickets for people. Because it's already small venues. The demand is so high. And then you're competing with scalpers and stuff. And it was just like crazy for people to get tickets. So to see someone who like is a little wishy-washy on Ariana versus someone who has been like in the trenches, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:35 That would be annoying. Yeah, for sure. So I get that too. Maybe it's just not post it. Yeah. But then also, but they were like, um, so like, Arionators are commenting, but like in saying that she doesn't deserve to be there or whatever. And she'd be like, okay, well, see you there. Which is a little scared.
Starting point is 01:22:49 I'm like, McKay. I don't know if you want to be riling them up like that when they're going to see them in person. I know. I have a soft spot for Michaela because I like I do like her in some capacity. Like she's a little like you say camp too in a different way. I think she's, you know, she also very young. So I just, I think she's just trying. I think she has to be on the defense a lot.
Starting point is 01:23:06 And I feel sorry for her in that sense. Yeah. Yeah. She's crushing it in life. I mean, she's literally going to be an alter, you know, all this stuff like that, like allegedly. But, yeah, being young and having to defend yourself for every little thing. And then people commenting on your relationship and your relationship and your
Starting point is 01:23:20 I guess now I'm like Like why wouldn't she Now I'm thinking like Why wouldn't you respond to Ariana Grande I guess Like Right I don't know I guess like to your point
Starting point is 01:23:32 Like there may be a world Where she just does not check comments at all Like maybe she's not looking at any comments Me I guess Demi commented on my Instagram And then I was too panicked So I just liked it
Starting point is 01:23:42 And I did but at least I liked it Did she like it? She didn't like Right and she didn't respond to someone Being like this packaging sucks And she's like yeah I know he's in the comments yeah yeah mm-hmm I don't know that's messy boots though she's I guess
Starting point is 01:24:01 silver lining I in a world where some drama is so serious I'm thankful to have like a rent like kind of unserious drama at the end of the day you know she should do like a giveaway she should get like tickets for an orionator that is a great idea yeah because I thought it was when I first entered the MCR fandom I think initially they didn't like me and then I was would, like, you know, get into, like, some of the causes that MCR stands for. And then I would, like, donate charities. And then they're kind of like, oh, okay, you know. That is some great advice for me.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Yeah. That way you'd kind of like, you know, be like, I respect y'all. I'm here. I wasn't always here, but I'm here now. You know what I'm trying to do so good. So. And also, she, realistically, she can really enjoy her music and just not like the packaging. Yeah, very much that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:43 So, yeah, because I think her whole thing is her honesty, right? So she's like, she did a review because I think she liked the product. I think I saw it. She did. She liked the lip gloss. She's like, Ariana, this is amazing. Right. So she loved it. And she's just like, but you know what?
Starting point is 01:24:54 Let me be real and say something I didn't like, which is the packaging. And that's being honest. So, yeah. I mean, I was she's a fan if she got the front row tickets. I know, because those are hard to come by. And honestly, she bought them and didn't, you know, have to wait for a PR because you know they're going to buy the box, you know. They always do.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Some makeup company is going to buy a box to the Ariana concert and then have the influencers there. And people are going to be mad at them. So. I want to go. I want to be in the box. Juicy Couture. They bought a box at Trish, Ears of Trish, which was No boxes were even
Starting point is 01:25:24 I don't know if there was any other boxes sold, but Juicy Cout got one. That was everything. That was everything, actually. Yeah, I would have to go to a box. I got Tart sent freaking people to the Ares Tour. So. The box?
Starting point is 01:25:36 Yeah, Tart got a box at the Aroist Tour and set Influencer. So, call up your... Call up your Tart girls. They sent a little Aquaman onesie. Well, we got it at the party. I had showed it yesterday on my Instagram story. They sent a one thing. that says tart loves aquam
Starting point is 01:25:50 That is so cute I love it so much Didn't they send you something They hit you up for a PR package? They will There's a tart bro PR something Work, okay
Starting point is 01:25:59 They're like Moses you want a tart bro Did you respond? Yeah just to give them my information Oh okay What they send Are you gonna wear it? Well I don't know what they're sending Oh what do you think it is makeup
Starting point is 01:26:10 There must be There must be things for men You know Little men's grooming Something for my hair maybe You love a hair product these days yeah tart bro okay
Starting point is 01:26:22 I love that I can see you in that that'll be cute we love tart me and Aquaman yeah represent the boys I can't I don't know
Starting point is 01:26:33 they have some tart bro like posts and stuff I can't tell what the product is maybe it's new yeah ooh I can't wait to get it I love when Moses gets a package
Starting point is 01:26:44 like a dress to him you got a Jimmy Johns one you got Jimmy Johns you got what else I get a lot of tin fish Mr. Beast Oh, tin fish Yum
Starting point is 01:26:54 Hmm Okay We got a little PR Tart bro I love that you check the DMs I don't know that many I'm not into Moses Instagram
Starting point is 01:27:04 So like sometimes like DMs will pop up on mine Like it'll be like I'm on my account But it'll say like Someone sent you a message So it shows his Which is like so weird
Starting point is 01:27:11 So sometimes I accidentally click on it Because it'll like pop up And I think it's mine And then I'm like Oh so I did see the tart one Because I thought it was mine And I was like Oh it's to Moses
Starting point is 01:27:17 Like that's so weird But I love to see the If you, if you respond. I never really checked because you don't really respond to many people. But I like to see what's up for there. I need to get better out checking. Damn. I miss stuff all the time.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Yeah, I do too, actually. Even, but I do go to Moses and be like, say hi to Trish. I'm like, oh. I should just respond and be like, it is true. Well, I know it's worse. If you do, then it encourages people to send me more. Oh, shoot. It all comes.
Starting point is 01:27:43 I do get all of things that are addressed to you. Yeah, yeah. Flooded. I also send it to Trish, but in case, you know, you might. see it. Oh, I think that did work, though. I did see someone say that and then I like followed up with them. Yeah, I think that did work. Check those DMs. You never know what you're going to miss. You could have missed Darian. I could have missed Moses. You're right about that. Yeah, T. I probably wouldn't miss Moses. It was that day I was, I became aware of him.
Starting point is 01:28:05 And then I was like, oh, let me see if this person ever messaged me. And then, like, he just happened to message me like the hour before. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't miss it because I never checked DMs. Yeah. But it's amazing. You checked yours, too. I guess I also had like less back then. I had less and less going on. So. Right, it was like quarantine. Yeah. It's such a good time to meet someone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:23 To be like, hmm, let's just not do anything together. I guess I remember in 2020 it was like all the apps like took the, like the radiuses away. So you can make it like you can put your location or whatever. Yeah. So people were talking like across the country. So that's kind of cute. Yeah. The radius thing is beneficial I guess.
Starting point is 01:28:43 But yeah, you want to open it up. Yeah. Although I guess Raya doesn't have the radius thing, right? Like it's all over I think so Yeah I always wondered Back to 90 day fiance is how they found Like some of those people find
Starting point is 01:28:54 They're like oh we met on an app It's like were they all on a foreign dating site Or was it like they set their tenders to like London or something Or I was like know these questions Back then we're like Facebook and things like that I had to get so many 90 day fiance people on here But you have to like go through TLC Like Jasmine do you know her
Starting point is 01:29:10 Jasmine Gino She just had a baby and I was trying to get her on there And we were DM me But then she'd like oh you have to go through TLC I was like oh no I didn't get go through TLC but I do love 90 fancy I have so many questions I don't know how many they can answer honestly but also like how do you get on the show like is it real does the show help or hurt your career your relationship so many questions I guess people like make a full on career off of it I know
Starting point is 01:29:33 big ed T I guess I've always wondered how much it pays because like some of them are still like you know struggling to like say at the move in with family and stuff because they're struggle but I'm like so I'm like are they just paying nothing to be on the show? But it seems that way, because people always are complaining on the show about money. And I was like, we have a whole TV cast with you, like, crew with you. Like, they should be paying for the stuff. Yeah, but reality TV, you're the least valued person. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:00 I guess if you get, like, spinoffs, like, Darcy and Stacey, they probably make some decent money. Right, you start to make. But if you have good social media presence. They always go to surgery. You know what? They always get their surgery done in Turkey. And I just saw Matt from Matt and Abby get his hairline done in Turkey. Everyone's going to Turkey.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Mike did, too. Mike Malak, I want to say Zane and Jaze might have gone over to Turkey to get his done because he's talked about it. I wonder why, well, I guess the cost, Matt was saying that it was going to be $20,000 here for a hair transplant over there, it's $3,500, and that includes your airfare, your hotel and the surgery. How's that even possible? $3,500 is extremely cheap.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Is that even like a ticket? T. I heard someone who was on Love is Blind. He was the one that was dating. the girl who said she looks like Megan Fox, that guy. Oh, yeah. A lot of jimmies.
Starting point is 01:30:51 A lot of jimmie. Jiminy Cricket. Jiminy Glick. Who is Jiminy Glick? Martin Short. Oh. Isn't that his character where he was in a fat suit, I think? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:31:03 He was like late night talk to host and he was like fat and it was Martin Short. Problematic, I guess. Hindsight. But he said, I think he quoted, it was like maybe like 11,000 in America and then like six five or six thousand in turkey um but i'd rather just do it here i don't want to deal with flying and then right that's what i think too but i don't know everyone's got me on this turkey kick as we all know i want to get my implants out like do i just fly turkey get my implants out it sounds you have some turkish blood in you it's like you know because some family while we're
Starting point is 01:31:35 over there like it could be a thing i've seen i think i saw a ticot where it was like someone coming back from turkey in the airport and it was like all the guys with like the band Oh, it's so interesting. Maybe they're specifically known for hair transplants over there. I guess, yeah. Some people think it as a vacation, too. So they do their recovery. In over there?
Starting point is 01:31:57 Yeah, they said it's like a, Matt was saying it was like a five-star hotel and stuff. Oh, okay. Yeah, people take care of you. They're influenced by Matt and Abby is crazy. His hair transplant look good. I was like, you know what? I love when guys are real about it too. I feel like something that was like people never talked about.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And now people are like I said, Mike talked about it, saying you talked about it. I mean, I think Manny and Jeffrey were like the first. first two to talk about hair transplants. It looks good. So it's like it stimulates so your own hair grows. Is that what it is? Well, the follicles are just like skin grafted. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:26 They move them for one part to them. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Technology is insane. Mm-hmm. What people are doing these days as well. Still don't like the Matt and Abby podcast, but I like that you were real about it, you know?
Starting point is 01:32:41 They're really a baby, so congrats to them. Another one? Yeah. They're pregnant with baby number three. Hopefully he's nicer to her after this one. Well, yeah, we hope so. Oh, my God. Hopefully they just stopped posting stuff like that where it's just like, I was so
Starting point is 01:32:55 exhausted. I kind of got, oh, my gosh. Hilary Duff coming back to music. I'm very excited about this. It got me really reflecting on how much I loved Hillary Duff's music. I was on this to Moses because I actually just brought this up to him randomly. I was just like, oh my gosh, she just signed. This is huge.
Starting point is 01:33:12 It means coming out of new music and he didn't quite understand. He didn't grasp. the excitement behind it. Yeah, it was a pop music emergency finding out that she assigned to Atlantic, right? Yes. Because, dare I say, I don't think she's ever had a bad era.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Maybe she's had some eras less popular than others, but I have loved every single Hillary Duff era. Oh, God, and the music, wake up, wake up on a Saturday night. I was re-watching. Yeah, I love it. I went down the rabbit hole and started re-watching music videos. Very, girl and gay watching music. Yes, I'll let's do that.
Starting point is 01:33:45 I love it. I love one and wake up when she comes out with a bob, like in the little beret. Like, she's serving. It's everything's to serve. It'd be New York. Maybe all we would invite. That song is so freaking good. So good.
Starting point is 01:33:57 And the one where she's like, Good Morning America, live, where she's like in the morning. Oh, yeah. With love, love, love, love. Let's do it with love. Dance break. D-D-D-D-D-N-N-A. It's so. I want to learn that, Corio.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Me too. It's so good. Because people, like, at first, were like, yes, give us nothing. But honestly, gave us everything. everything to just do it so effortlessly just like like it's giving she's the one in the class when she's just stunts the teacher with her vocals
Starting point is 01:34:25 yes and raise your voice yes la la la la la la la la la la la la and the power of Whitney just she Whitney Whitney Houston just channels Hillary Duff and she just hits those notes all the different voices yeah
Starting point is 01:34:40 yeah I like I was also I watched the our lips are sealed music video with Hilary and Haley Duff. And it was giving you and Tanna vibe. So I think you guys should possibly that at some point. Oh, okay, we will do that. That's so good. Material Girls, amazing.
Starting point is 01:34:54 All her movies are so good. All the music. Talking Lise is so good. So good. And even her last album, Breedin, breathe out. Yes. It was such a good album. It was slept on.
Starting point is 01:35:04 The visuals of that one was so good. Like, I do love the Yes, So Yesterday, where she's like in her black tank with the rocker and the bands. Like, I loved that. what was the one from not the dreams are made up but it was from lizzie mcguire why not why not you you always dressing yellow when you want to dress in gold instead of listening to your heart you do just what you're told there may never be a sign no flashing neon light telling you to make your move or if the time is right so why not take a crazy chance people when you actually
Starting point is 01:35:39 listen to the lyrics is kind of life changing what's the one where it's like Oh, God, it's the one where it's like... Well, if the light is off, then it isn't on. Yeah, it's a light is off, but it is not today, not today. That's so good. If the light is off, then it isn't on. Because if it's over, let it go in. When you wake up, it'll seem so yesterday, which is so true.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I love it. If you are going through like some kind of drama, some kind of breakup, some kind of something. Like, if it's over, let it go in. Yeah. When you wake up, it will seem so yesterday. And it is. And it is literally and figuratively. I love the, um, the rain, let the rain fall down and wake my dreams.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Let it walk through it. Like, I think of someone gave like a sermon, like, say you went to church or something, and the priest was just, like, reciting these lyrics and making it seem like it was Bible versus T, you would honestly think it's Bible verses. It would make sense. It would make sense. I'm so excited she's making music. I just really feel like, yeah, these divas making a comeback.
Starting point is 01:36:34 I just like, I love it all. I do too. And breathe. I remember when I met her, it was when Breathe and Breathe Out just came out. And I was working at Access Hollywood. And back then they would kind of send me I was doing like the Instagram or whatever So they would send me to get like a little photo
Starting point is 01:36:48 Of the guests who were there And I couldn't even help it out I'd be like Hillary I just have to tell you that Breathe in breathe out got me through such a tough time And she was she was sitting down She literally was like she stood up She like hugged me And then she also like kept my head there next to her
Starting point is 01:37:05 And I was like Oh my God! She was so sweet Like she held it? Yes she was like that is so sweet Thank you so much and I was like that album is so good it is so good uh she's an icon her anti-gay we love honestly jeff wittick needs to listen to the hillary god when you say that's so gay do you really mean what you're saying and i think that would change his life i think that would change she was good she really ate with that everything she
Starting point is 01:37:30 every role every tv show every movie i love her so good she thank god for hillary duff because we wouldn't have your acting skills be what they are because i Hillary duff laid the foundation very true oh very true. I feel like all my acting is Hillary Coded. Everything I act is because of her. You do it a little. What? What? Yeah, I wanted to be here so bad. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:53 No, we can't do that. Like, what are you talking about? I love it. You in your mouth is so funny. It's certainly Cinderella story that was acting class 101 for me. Like, I just loved it. Because like waiting on you is like waiting for rain in the drought. Useless. I'm disappointed. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Yes. Yes. So good. It's, oh, she's so good. I need to rewatch that movie. Me, I've got to rewatch that, too. Oh, we gotta do a cosplay of that. Oh, my God, yeah. She was so good. I love the movie poster where she had, like, the apron, but then the Cinderella's dress
Starting point is 01:38:21 on her, so good. And did she have her converse on, too? Yes. And she wore the baseball cap, the LA baseball cap in the show. God, I love Hillary Duff. I love the comeback. I love that it is. I really feel Grammy for her, for real.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Like, I really see it happening. Honestly, I still cannot believe that Disney. Plus or Hulu, whatever, killed the Lizzie McGuire reboot. That is still so crazy to me. And why did they do that? Because they have, like, photos. Like, they filmed stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Like, where is it? Give it to us. They didn't, like, the direction it was going where Lizzie McGuire was more like an adult who was like, you know, having sex and stuff. Like, they wanted her to still be like Disney, like a Disney channel-fied adult. Was she having sex on the show? It was just like an adult, like, relationship. I don't think it was like sex scenes, but like implied, you know.
Starting point is 01:39:08 That would be crazy, but yeah. It was for Disney Plus. It was, I think so, or Hulu. I forget which one. But they didn't like the direction it was going. But it's so weird now because Disney Plus and Hulu are combined. And if you go on Disney Plus, there's a crazy show like, Anora is on Disney Play. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:24 We love, but also like, what? It's crazy. Yeah. And the Gorder was in it right with her, the original corner. And I was like, how do we want to see? We need to see. Release the Lisey McGuire pilots, please. So there was one episode shot, you think?
Starting point is 01:39:37 I think they filmed a couple because there was like paparotti. photos of them filming scenes and stuff so and she would have been singing in it because I think when we finished she brought the dozen the other day and there's like a Hillary Duff song in the credits I'm like I period of you can't have a Hillary Duff movie and I don't have a Hillary Duff song so good what was the other one too is that Heather Lackler is her mom raising Helen no that's K Hudson um mr. oh god what was it oh my god I know exactly what you're talking about yeah it's like Mr. Big is in it God I remember because I had the book like I had the book
Starting point is 01:40:10 adaptation the perfect man the perfect man and she had her songs in there too and she was such a good actress in that too with her mom like I just think she's so yeah all her songs were everything and more I love her I love her me too well I'm happy for it because Lindsay Lohan
Starting point is 01:40:26 also had like the her own menaceance and I think Hillary Duff is owed her renaissance as well yeah I think that's I think it is always there for her like you said she she just like took steps back like I feel like she wasn't like she never really one away because you did do that how I met your mother spin off yeah and that was pretty
Starting point is 01:40:43 popular so she's still like been around Josh pex podcast oh yeah yeah that she was on there yeah exactly um so she didn't really take a I think she chose like being mom yeah she had four kids I think so right yeah yeah four kids wow because she had like one when she was pretty young yeah I want her oldest is 12 years old wow 12 years old and then she just had a baby like this year T24 last year. Oh, I guess speaking of reboots too, Kristen Dunst has shot down a bring it on reboot slash sequel.
Starting point is 01:41:20 She got Denny Directo from E.T. Shout out. Asked her about it. Which is weird because there's been so many bring it on sequels, just different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many.
Starting point is 01:41:34 But nothing can ever beat the original 2000. Kristen Dunst. That's why good for her. I love when you can like turn down a project because it's probably so easy to say yes But these reboots I don't know Sometimes it is kind of worth it to say
Starting point is 01:41:47 No Yeah and I guess how could you I don't know if you could ever top it I really don't Especially that one like She's obviously not going to be the high school cheerleader So what is she getting back as like a mom Like I don't know
Starting point is 01:41:59 She's so iconic in that role So I was just like maybe just leave it there Yeah Yeah I also like I don't The whole thing with like the Compton Clovers versus the Rans, the palace rancher
Starting point is 01:42:12 Toros or whatever, that definitely couldn't be done in 2025 too. Them just like stealing their moves. It's like, mm, yeah. Yeah, so that would be another weird dynamic. But damn. Bringing on was the first PG-13 movie I ever saw and I felt so cool, like on the playground
Starting point is 01:42:27 after seeing that. Wait, why? Were you like acting it out or you just felt the character? I think all the cool girls saw it. And then I remember like feeling edgy like, oh, I'm seeing a PG-13 movie. And I must have been like how old? I guess it's been like 10 or something because it was out on like VH or whatever it was
Starting point is 01:42:43 So you like watch it at home? At home yeah not in the theater but I remember the theater the first I think I might have been like too old to be this my first one in theaters but I think it was sugar and spice was my first one Do you remember that one? It was also like a cheerleader movie
Starting point is 01:42:55 But they like Robbanks Yeah they were like heist They were like in these things I remember seeing that in theaters I'd be like well I might have been like probably 14 or something I think you're trying to like girl you don't have to sneak in I know I don't know why
Starting point is 01:43:07 What year did that come out? Maybe check it Yeah, I was yet. No, I wasn't because I remember. I mean, I watched Pulp Fiction when I was six, so I don't know if it was like that Scandalis to Sea Sugar and Spice, but maybe in-2001. 2001. So, yeah, oh, I was 13.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Okay, work. Yeah, I was 13, so maybe that was. Maybe that was it. Maybe it was the first time I could go without my mom. Because we got checked when we were younger. Did you? I guess I never went to the movies by myself or with my parents. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:43:33 Oh, really? Oh, really? Oh, really? on Massacre, they, like, asked how old we were. And we're like, we never saw a rated our movie. Really? Yeah, because I never liked violence or, like, anything graphic. I didn't really.
Starting point is 01:43:44 We never did either, but my mom was like, let's go see Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And I was like, maybe, I don't know, 12 or so I don't know how old I was. And my sister was definitely like eight. And we were like terrified. We left halfway through the movie. And we're like, I think we've all been like, even to this day, we're so scared if anyone's in the house. And I think it was that movie that, like, terrified us of like jump scares and stuff
Starting point is 01:44:02 like that because we like we slept in the same bed maybe i was like older maybe was like 2001 or something so maybe i was like i guess i've been 13 the same year so i think i was just like so scared we slept in the same bed so from like literally like 13 to like 18 we never slept in a different bed than my mom because i was so scared in that movie and i still am it's always just like you know i mean realistic no but it's just like scared if like moses in the house i'm like i don't like a chainsaw well you go to those horror nights they chase you with chainsaws there yeah and you can smell the gas too when they do the chainsaw it's real chainsaws no they're not like operating but they are like that they rev it and like you smell the gas absolutely
Starting point is 01:44:37 not i would literally pass out like what do you mean no i hate that that's crazy but you like those you like the war and i do it is camp to me i don't know why it goes kind of against everything i am into like jump scares and stuff but it's so there's something so camp about being scared by people like in the costumes and stuff although they sell now i saw ticot that you can buy like this flashing light necklace or whatever so they can't scare you oh okay but then Then they come and make fun of you for being, like, so I don't know what's worse. Then they just bully you. Like, you lose her.
Starting point is 01:45:09 This girl on TikTok, she went. And, like, she's like, I'm going to test this, like, necklace to see if it works. And then they come and she would show them the necklace and they would just make roaster to her face. Oh, my God. Okay. All of it sounds awful. Don't like that time of year. No, thank you.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Absolutely not. I know, because we were coming home from the Demi Party and we saw the advertisement. I'm like, you can know that? Oh, yeah. Like, yeah, definitely. I was like, what? I live for it. Five Nights at Freddy's is that horror nights this year. Oh, yeah. I mean, that does look exciting, but no, sounds terrifying.
Starting point is 01:45:39 Do you think Freddy Faspware is there and he scares you? They must, right? Maybe they do the little song. Can't wait to meet you. Is that from Five Nights at Friday or someone just? I remember when you were doing it, someone said it wasn't in the game nor the film. But my kind of grace, the actress, she is in the new five nights at the sequel, Five Nights at Freddy. And she did a TikTok to the sound recently. Maybe it's in the new line. So maybe they added it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:03 It's very, what, was it Gaga, like, season one of Wednesday, they used her song to dance last dance, dance, dance, dance, dance. Yeah, well, a TikTok edit used Bloody Mary to Jenna or take a dancing, and then, yeah, in the sequel. So wasn't even in the show. Wasn't even in the show. Isn't that crazy? So that's probably what Friday night of Friday. It was probably, like, no one. Or there's another one that was like, hey, kids, nice to eat judge.
Starting point is 01:46:22 Do you remember that one? Are you looking for some fadsberry pizza? Who's this? And I'm like, is it from five nights at Friday or someone just made it up. You should ask how. I always thought it was an old commercial, so it's not, it's not like... No, it's from Five Nights at Freddy, but everyone's saying it's not in the game either. Like, my sister thinks that it wasn't in the game, right game.
Starting point is 01:46:39 But I remember it was like such a trend. When we met during quarantine, everyone was doing that trend. I think I did it too. Is there a Five Nights at Freddy musical? Because that's kind of tea. Where are all these songs coming from? I know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Well, TikTok. But they're just making, like, someone just made up these songs. That's so weird. What was the TikTok musical? There was a moment where people were making their own. Oh. And then it got shut down. Oh my God, I forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Everybody wanted it to be so real. And Disney's like, no, actually not. I forgot about that. That is so funny. It was, Remy, the Rattie, the Ratt of all my dreams. Yes. Remy, the Rattitooey. I loved it so much.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Oh, my God. Rattatooey, but I loved the musical version of it. You never saw Rattatooie? No. It's about a mouse in France. T. I guess if you're in White Lotus, you got to see Rattatatooie for it. I really love this manifestation for me.
Starting point is 01:47:29 To me, it's, like, not even, like, out there, but, okay. To me, I just, like, I think I'm just, like, oh, it's happening. I don't know why. I just see it. Oh, my God, I love it. Now I'm like, is it? Every time someone has, like, these, like, visions, I'm like, is this happening? Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Someone else said something to me the other day. I forgot what it was. And I'm like, oh, I don't, do you know something that I don't? It's so weird. Kind of, like, dancing with the stars, too. In my head, you were the alternate that, like, Lauren from Fifth Harmony had a replace. Oh, my God. Did we ever talk about, I mean, it's not tea, but kind of tea.
Starting point is 01:47:58 I was kind of gagged. Oh, yeah. When did it? The past week is such a blur. When did I even send you this? Like over a week ago. Oh, really? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:48:07 Maybe not. I have no idea. But there was this TikTok that was like a scooper, a TikTok detective that was trying to figure out like, because Julianne Huff went on a podcast and said there was a celebrity that was cast on dancing with the stars who was like too controversial, almost too controversial. And they lost her and then replaced her with Lauren from Fifth Harmony. because Lauren said that she found out like two days before the cast announcement that she was going to do Dancing with the Stars. Which makes it make sense
Starting point is 01:48:35 because on the Hot Topics, like, why didn't she have a photo? Yeah. Oh, that is weird. So then it made sense because she just found out two days prior. And then a TikTok sleuth found out that it was likely going to be what's his name?
Starting point is 01:48:48 Bill Belichick is that his name? Bill Belichick's ex or current girlfriend. Jordan, the younger girlfriend who's like running his ship like the Navy. Yeah. Like what do you mean she's going to be on dancing with stars. That's crazy. But in my head, as I was listening, like, before I got to like the answer, when Julian Huff's like, it's someone who's really controversial, I was like,
Starting point is 01:49:07 is she about to say, Trisha? Could you have magic? Not controversial anymore. She's dead, okay? That girl does not exist. We are not that life. Yes. Absolutely. It's just so crazy that it was like Jordan. What is her last name? So they found out because like, was it on TV? They just didn't take away her name. I get, yeah, it was like in the credits or whatever. That is crazy. I don't know where it was.
Starting point is 01:49:31 They showed like a thing, like a description. Yeah. And her name was there. And I was like, who didn't take it off? Like, that's so funny. They just like, leave it on. So, I mean, that's, I love dancing with the stars. I'm happy to be on anytime you need me.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Okay, I'll be there. But also, what? Like, more than what is they get? They're a phenomenon. Obviously, Taylor-Fa Paul's on a bachelor. Yeah, they're on EBC. Obviously, Alex Earl's like the biggest influencer who's not mainstream, you know, Irwin, to panga.
Starting point is 01:49:56 So, okay, yes, they're all, yes. But if you're like the girlfriend of someone kind of, is he famous, I don't know. Are you famous just because you have a young girlfriend and you're so old? I don't know. Like, this is like, now we're stretching. We're stretching it a lot, actually. That's like, that's crazy. That's crazy that I guess they just not cast her then ultimately or she said no.
Starting point is 01:50:15 She's like, no. I don't know what they said. Let me see if there's any. Why was she on that little description? Like, she must have been solidified at some point. Yeah. Oh, okay. So the Daily Mail reported.
Starting point is 01:50:26 in May that she was approached to join the series. Oh, it said the source, ideally male said she will likely decline as it will be in the fall the same time Bill will be coaching and she wants to be there for sure. It was a, okay, she chose her man over. For her career, I feel like like you said, she's running there. She's like the ghost writer of coaching. Yeah. Oh. Ghost coach?
Starting point is 01:50:52 She's the ghost coach. Because she goes like to his games and stuff and like is the one. I think they got mad at her because she was like trying to make the calls and plays and stuff, which I love. I love that. She's there. Like she has the hat on and she's just like, no, this, we got to switch it up. Let's switch it up. Why is she doing that?
Starting point is 01:51:08 Is he like not like well enough to like, is he not competent to do it? Like I don't understand like why. I mean he's old, but I if he got the job, he must be. And some people were thinking it like ruins his like coaching legacy or I don't know anything about football. But I don't even know who he is. Like what's he do? What's he famous for? I think he's one like super like a lot of.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Super Bowls. Yeah. What's he? Who's he coach? I think it was what's his name? Oh my God. This is the gayest thing ever. But Giselle Blanchin's ex-husband, Tom Brady, Patriots?
Starting point is 01:51:38 Yeah, that was the big ones, huh? Let me see how many he's weren't. It sounds familiar. I only know because of the dating. He's won a record eight Super Bowls in the NFL. Six as head coach of the New England Patriots and two as defensive coordinator as the New York Giants. I guess that is kind of. legacy is it isn't there like 50 super bowls and you only want eight but it's a record for a coach to win
Starting point is 01:52:03 eight that doesn't seem that great i guess the track record yeah like i feel like the ratio if there's 50 super bowls and he's been coaching 30 years and you only want eight out of your 30 years probably longer maybe right he's 70 something let me see i don't know i feel like i guess you should win more like per like NFL okay but the record for most Super Bowl wins by a team is six okay but Seth Rogan won
Starting point is 01:52:33 12 Emmys last night and one night 13 okay there you go he won more in one night but I think it's harder to win a Super Bowl than an Emmy because Emmy you could you could be nominated for like 20 in a night you know what I mean I guess I don't know that doesn't seem that impressive
Starting point is 01:52:51 Super Bowl and maybe like an egot because an egot is kind of hard to get because you got to win all because you have to win so much to get to the super bowl and then you got to win the super bowl right i don't know football stands let us know in the comments below i disagree what about steve madden how many has he won isn't steve mad at the shoe the shoe oh i mean john madden right madden football and a sports you're in the game my brother used to play it all the time madden football madden Madden's Super Bowl maybe John Madden
Starting point is 01:53:22 John Madden Yeah How many Super Bowls Okay I have to be like 10 Well the record is 6 So it can't be Are you sure
Starting point is 01:53:30 He was using AI They don't know everything I'm just using Google Yeah Six is a lot For in one person's career He won the first ever Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:53:42 In 1977 John Madden I think Damn Okay That's kind of impressive. I feel like that's more legendary than Bill Belichick. That is pretty iconic.
Starting point is 01:53:53 He played too. You know, I mean, the coaches, I don't know. I don't want to be like disrespectful, but do the coaches do that much? Do you know what I mean? Like, shouldn't Tom Brady be more worship because he actually played? I don't know. But the coaches are the ones that have to like come up with the play, like the strategy. And then it's a, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:54:10 It's like I are the athletes like the pieces and then the like the, like you have a good player. You have to know how to use it. Yeah. have to position them in a place where they can do the best they can do the best they can do it. I feel like I could position. Obviously Bill Belichick's girlfriend can do it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:54:26 Yeah. She has like probably no prior experience. Like, oh, you're a good quarterbacker. You kick it. You know what I mean? Like I feel like that's easy. You have good players. It's like even directors like again, I respect all.
Starting point is 01:54:38 But you know, isn't it easy to direct someone like Leonardo DiCaprio who's just a good actor? Like, right? I don't know. I think it obviously. of course needed but what if all the actors around him are horrible he can't carry the movie by himself i guess you've seen tv shows a lot like miss mccarthy would direct a lot of mike and mollies and you're like oh has she ever directed before and it's like obviously killed it crushed it but also like isn't it kind of easy if like all the actors kind of know what they're doing
Starting point is 01:55:07 or maybe i'm way wrong i don't know i've never directed i feel like directing kind of has to because it's also not just the actors it's like there's so many things got to think about like there's a big with the lighting and I don't know there's like to create an atmosphere like certain the placement like the blocking like when I studied cinema there were some students that were just incredible for some reason their project looked a certain way and others didn't like they have a they have a vision of what makes something look a certain way think about Tarantino or Tim Burton or but yeah of course I mean they're obviously amazing but I'm just saying right but the same thing in sports it's the same thing but a lot of players do and
Starting point is 01:55:46 up becoming coaches after. They have a certain insight into. I don't know. I don't know. Just like actors become directors because they have a certain insight. That I see, but I never know like an athlete to become a coach. I think it's con because you also can't physically play for forever because you're the toll on your body.
Starting point is 01:56:08 So a lot of them become like Jason Kelsey became a commentator after he retired. That makes me sense. I guess. Yeah. But you were a director. So what was it like directing Moses? Was it easy? Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:18 That's what I was thinking actually. With Trish talks to me, it was like I can act, but I can also tell the angle, the lighting. Like I can say all of it. Like I know what's good. Like when we were laying down, I knew what angle looked good. Like, I mean, it just comes naturally, I guess, to me. By this figured it would come naturally to everybody. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:56:34 Like coaching myself or Moses. Like I could direct anyone. You can direct anyone to be a good actor, I would assume. I guess that makes a good director then, which means I'm a good director. I mean, that's just you. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Okay. There's a long list of players that became coaches, but just we don't know any of it. Larry Bird. You don't know him? What team he played for? I actually know him. I don't know why he played basketball, I think. Yes, for the Boston Celtics.
Starting point is 01:56:59 I only know because, like, my dad was someone to basketball and he played in the 90s. It was like Larry Bird, Scottie Pippen, Mark Price, like all these people. And I was just like, I know Dennis Rodman. Okay. I feel like he could also have just enlist names. Right. Yeah. Like, okay, that sounds good.
Starting point is 01:57:14 I'm looking at the list is long. These are all players that became coaches. Oh, okay. So you kind of just took a guess and you were right. No, I knew that. I just don't know names. I don't remember names. Pop culture.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Do you know athletes? Sports. No, I don't know their names. I just know that's a practice. But do you know athletes in general? Like, do you know, do you watch sports? No, I don't not watch sports. Oh, so how do you know that?
Starting point is 01:57:35 It just makes sense. Oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. So you just logic. You're like that makes sense. You didn't know for sure. I knew for sure. I didn't know names who I was.
Starting point is 01:57:44 How did you know for sure if you never watched the sports? Because when you watch a game, you don't want somebody becomes a coach. It's more like. I would never know. I feel like I've watched probably more sports than you in my life because of my dad and brother. And I had no idea. I wouldn't even put that logic together. So that's why I was trying to figure out how you knew this.
Starting point is 01:58:01 I think it's common knowledge. Well, obviously. I didn't know that. That's pretty offensive. I'm impressed by you. I was just trying to figure out how you knew all that. I just think if somebody has so much experience, they have the, I think in soccer, I mostly knew about it from soccer
Starting point is 01:58:15 because my dad used to watch soccer all the time. Right. It is very international soccer. People like to watch. It's Cristiano Ronaldo probably the most paid athlete, huh? Maybe. Someone told me once that they paid him like $7 million. It was an international commercial for him to
Starting point is 01:58:35 show up for like literally like an hour in front of a green screen and they paid him $7 million to like advertise this product in like a different country. Damn. He's very, influential probably more so than Mr. Beast don't tell Mr. Beast wow who do these more influential
Starting point is 01:58:52 Mr. Beast Christiana Ronaldo or Caleb Heron he's the highest pair oh wow I really know he scored Look at you He's just everywhere in that ring he just got his fiancee is yeah I guess it depends who you ask
Starting point is 01:59:06 Right Caleb influences us more than anyone Like again very generally Yeah yeah I don't think Mr. Beast influences Besides, I guess the order, honestly, would be Caleb, Mr. Beast, and then Cristiano Rinaldo. As far as, like, I never see what Cristiano Rinaldo is up to. Mr. Beast, I see definitely more than Cristiano and then Caleb I see the most, yeah. That's a tough one.
Starting point is 01:59:30 Who are you influenced the most by right now? Ooh. Like give you a million, like give them a million dollars so they influence your life. That is such a good, quite, I would probably. say honest lay is Jen McAllister is probably still the most yeah she influences me the most what are you watching her on Twitch and YouTube and honestly it's I don't know if it's just the neurodivergence but like I'll even if I have nothing to watch I'll just replay I because I've seen literally every one of her YouTube videos at this point but I'll just rewatch wow yeah okay and what did she
Starting point is 02:00:04 influence you lately as just it's you know when you just absorb people's like the way they talk and stuff and also like every game she plays I like whenever I stream I'll just play whatever she plays. I'll just reheat her nachos. Okay, okay. So that's your number one. I love the Gen X-X-Pen nacho. Wow.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Yeah. I ordered those Gen X-X-Pen nachos anytime I go to stream. Yeah. Extra sour. I get mine on the side, always. Wow. I don't even know who mine is. Who am I influenced by right now?
Starting point is 02:00:30 I'm usually influenced who? I know everyone. But like, who's who? Anyone that's on the screen in front of you. I know. That is very true. If there's a girl with a bag, she wants the bag. I did order a green bag.
Starting point is 02:00:41 I ordered a green bag. I ordered a green bag. No, you did it. Did you not see me? I was like scrolling. I was like surprised. Like she hasn't said anything about this bag. It's a surprise.
Starting point is 02:00:49 I haven't seen a story of her looking for this bag. I ordered the Chloe Paddington bag in green. It's a new color. Oh my God. And they were eating whoppers on Drop-Dad Diva. Remember those? Remember those malt balls called Woppers? Yes.
Starting point is 02:00:59 And I literally like where can I get a box of those? Like they looked so good. I forgot about those. Me too, but they still sell them at like CVS. Yeah. When I go to the store, I see them all the time. I never seen those at all. Those I am but like influencer.
Starting point is 02:01:11 I'm trying to think who I'm influenced by. Oh, Mr. me ashton with those dominoes ads. Of course. Domino's ads every single week. Every single week. I love when you share them to your story now. Now they're definitely going to, because now it's a freaking two for one. They're getting Remy and then they know Trisha's got a freaking repost.
Starting point is 02:01:24 You're right. I'm into it. I'm like, give me. But can I say, yeah, the dominoes that does influence me. Everything she does kind of influences me, I guess. I do watch everything she's into. Yeah, I'm trying to think who. Oh, I think Jen is definitely like the number one person.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Darian and I started watching this one YouTuber who goes to hotels. and, like, he goes for, like, 24 hours, just, like, review them. And he did your guys' underwater Maldives. Who was Daryan? We watched this one, guys. Oh. It's just this middle-aged British man. I don't even know.
Starting point is 02:01:55 Okay. But he did the Maldives, the underwater hotel that you guys went to. What do you say? Well, he went in off-season when it was really cheap. That was, like, it was, like, rainy and it was empty. Yes. It was a lot cheaper, though, for him. I think it was, like, $5,000?
Starting point is 02:02:13 Yeah, it was a lot cheaper. We went offseason one January, but it was, it was cheap. It was still like $19,000 and originally it was like $50,000 a night or something. It was what we heard. We heard it was like $50,000 and then we got $9,000. Great, because I've just expected a lot. And then I was watching, I was like, this was y'all paid. I was like, y'all should be banned from.
Starting point is 02:02:31 I know. When you go in person, too, it's even more like, ooh. And specifically, not talk bad about it, but specifically when you go underneath, it's like scary. It feels like you're in a fish tank that's about ready to bust. and everything's kind of green around you and you're kind of just like you just see like algae and you're kind of like
Starting point is 02:02:47 ooh I don't know if I like this it's it's I mean it is incredible it does look cool but it is very unique but it's you have to like it to enjoy it to be completely but you like love water
Starting point is 02:03:00 and you didn't really want to like be down there that much no because you wouldn't be oh would you would you want to sleep down there yeah we'd definitely sleep the night I mean it seemed like it could combust because it would like crack it like
Starting point is 02:03:11 but the whole thing is like with that sweet you still have an entire cottage above water that's like floating about like you're on a boat on the water that's what i hated with your private pool and everything but it it is an incredible place because i'm on and at the time i thought it was kind of like on you know like a irrational fear but i'm on tic-tac now where people are on cruises and um last night i just saw it last before i went to bed they told everyone to turn their lights off because pirates were like nearby and they're like everyone turn your lights off and everyone's just like if you turn you I thought pirates don't get you or what.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Like it was such a weird thing. You don't think a cruise ship can hide. No, but it was. They had the announcement. The person was on the cruise ship and they were having the announcement like, hey guys, like pirates in the area like turn off your lights. Like, you know, don't use this, whatever. Like it was so scary.
Starting point is 02:03:57 And like that's what I thought of where we were is because it was like we were literally in the middle ocean. Everyone knows that room was like $50,000 a night so they know people like or they would assume people with money. They would be surprised if it was us. But they would assume people with money would have money to pay them or whatever. And it was like, so scary. scary.
Starting point is 02:04:13 Because right before us, Paris Hilton was there before us. Yes, literally days before us. They left and we came in. Yeah. So I was thinking about that. I was just like, oh my gosh. And we were in the middle of ocean. You do have like a person that helps you.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Like I guess they call him like a butler or something there that helps you to the room. But like even him to come get us. Like he stayed in like a little thing. It would take like five minutes by a golf cart to get there. So. You should be the one writing those movies. Huh? What movies?
Starting point is 02:04:37 Movies that people get kidnapped at. Taking, taken five. Exactly. You would be really. She comes up, whenever we do anything, she comes up with a scenario, and I'm like, okay, and I'm like, okay, how do I, like, navigate this? Because the scenario, obviously, there's no chance of this happening, but, you know, it's a there's a chance of it happening.
Starting point is 02:04:59 There's pirates in the ocean. What do you mean? The way those things work is like when you have a, you know, like a resort that is a multi-billion dollar thing, they obviously have people protecting them, including the government, because nobody will jeopardize their income because it's a much bigger enterprise than the well why would you tell me this when we're there why didn't you explain all this to me I don't think you countless times I brought this up multiple times and this is the first I've ever heard you say anything logical like this but in the same way like if we're in a hotel and you know they have
Starting point is 02:05:28 glass walls and everything they're like don't get near the wall like what if the glass falls out or well that could happen I mean there's freak accidents that happen for sure so there's always something like that. Then you have to just navigate those. I'll say you should write those movies because you come up with those ideas. Well, like Wendy Williams said, the killers are out there, you know? Like, she's like the killer. And it's true.
Starting point is 02:05:52 You just got to think of like those scenarios in case you need to make an escape. And we had no escape because there was only one long wooden thing to the thing. So you only want to go. I was more surprised. Did you only do one video? Because then I went back to see it your experience and you just did the one. You didn't even get your money's worth. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:07 I was scared and I was sick and I was over it. I had panic attacks on that island. Oh, wow. My favorite part was in the little tour of your room. Moses is doing a time lapse outside. And then you're like, oh, Moses is doing a time lapse. And then you walk and you stand right in front of that camera and you look out to the horizon. And then you're like, oh, were you doing a time lapse?
Starting point is 02:06:24 Sorry, I forgot. After you just mentioned Moses is doing a time lapse outside. And I'm trying to capture the sunset. It's like that moment. Oh, my God. Moses got his time lapse on. Wow. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Right on time lapse. Did you tell him the engines, too? It was crazy. I don't remember that at all. You probably have that. Wait, that's so funny. That's so weird. I wonder why I did that?
Starting point is 02:06:58 Like, you think I tried to be funny or I'm just like accident? You said it and then you kind of were walking around the room and then he went back outside and like look at me and like, you could look out here. This is our view. And then you stood there for like 45 seconds. And then you went, you turn around, like, oh, I forgot you're doing a time lap. It's my big ass plastic up for you. I love it. I love that he watched it.
Starting point is 02:07:16 Oh, I was very serious. Just one room to where I did? I think so. It's the only one I saw. I was not a muck bang too. And then I was really over that room. I really thought like that was going to collapse on me. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:25 I was never relaxed there. I was very much on edge because even when we went in the water, there was like a stingray the first day were there. So I don't want to go in the water. I was like, I think he would talk shark like near, because no one was at the beach. It was like sharks right up there. Yeah. Outside of the restaurant, there'd be sharks.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Tim's, Tim showed the sharks, yeah. Oh, yeah, they're really close. And then even, like, going to the restaurants, it was just, like, heart. Like, they, you had to, like, literally go through, like, a jungle. It was, like, dark. There was, like, no light. So I was just, like, really scared. Remember that on the way back from one dinner.
Starting point is 02:07:52 It was, like, pitch black. And it took a while for the guy to come find us. And I had, like, a full blown pan. I think everyone on the island was, like, freaked out by me. I, what did I do? I started screaming on the golf cart. And I was, like, get me off, get me off. And then I just started, like.
Starting point is 02:08:03 bridge we're on a bridge we're like on a bridge and there was like nowhere to go and eventually he came with a golf cart because people came and trying to help but it was like on the floor just like literally like hyperventilate and like throwing myself around it was actually really weird I don't know what was happening what was I scared of I don't know like we were alone and we were dark in the woods and I thought people were trying to like kidnap us that jungle that walking through the jungle by ourselves was the jungle was a little scary at the time we had like weird like people like obsessing over us and, like, calling the hotel and, like, trying to complain that we were there. Okay, then that makes sense.
Starting point is 02:08:36 So I think I had, like, paranoia. We just found out, we found out that you were pregnant right before we took the trail. So when we were there, she couldn't go into the water. She couldn't do any, like, we were very limited to what we could do. Like hindsight, I could have, but I was, like, so scared. No, because, I mean, it's enough that a wave will knock you over. Oh, yeah. And on the golf part.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Because it's right the beginning of pregnancy. It's a very, very delicate. Yeah, especially you didn't think you could get pregnant too. So you're probably even more, like. didn't even want to go on it, but we, like, fully paid for the trip already because we did find out a couple weeks before. And then, yes, the golf cart was, like, bouncing over the bridge. I think that's what it was. And I was like, I need to get off. I need to get off. And I was, like, screaming. I'm surprised they didn't, like, kick us off the island
Starting point is 02:09:14 or something. Because I was, like, screaming and, like, anyone to touch me as a get away from me. Like, I was being so extra. That's all kind of makes sense then. Okay. But it was. I mean, the reaction was, like, it was over the top. I definitely, like, couldn't control myself. I was definitely, like, I should have just breathed. It would be, it makes sense that it was heightened, between all those factors because it was also like illegal yeah it was like this whole thing like illegal like if you know doing oaf or anything that at the time so i remember being like are we gonna go yeah so people were trying to get us like calling the hotel like it was just it was a crazy
Starting point is 02:09:41 time um and also traveling there takes so long like anyways that's so far away from home yeah like it's not just far it's beyond far because like you take an airplane and another airplane and then a tiny airplane and then a boat and you're like wow like i'm so far away that to track all of this back it's almost impossible i was giving white lot of so that you wait wave for you and they wait for you at your thing waiting for your arrival every time i see that that's what i remember i don't think we had watched white lotus yet so like we didn't know but i remember them like waiting for us there i was like that's pretty nice that they just like welcome you in and they just like escort you to your thing maybe it's best like you didn't watch white lotus
Starting point is 02:10:16 then you really would have thought you were gonna get more that is actually so true yes i know you're right yeah you're right someone always does that they should do a season where just someone doesn't die like just make it nice just have fun at the resort like why don't we watch those kind of shows Why does that always have to be so serious? Well, where would you go on a honeymoon? Ooh, that's a good question. You're Hawaii people, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:41 Yeah. You think you'd go there because you go there all the time. Maybe. I mean, gosh, I don't know why we started watching a lot of travel stuff, but if it wasn't illegal, Dubai looks so, they have, like, the most, like, amazing resorts and aquariums and stuff. That, like, the biggest Ukraine and the world is in Dubai. And it just looks fun. Gay.
Starting point is 02:11:08 We can arrest it if you go. Yeah. What do you mean? I mean. They just throw you in jail and no one can get you out? Because you're over in Dubai. You would have to come, you guys would have to come get me. Like, you know, that's how to go get Gigi because she's trans.
Starting point is 02:11:20 Right. But I think in comments, some people said it's not exactly. Okay. Like you could be. I think it's more about what you do in public or not. Well, Darien looks gay as hell. There's no one. It is because I think based on you look.
Starting point is 02:11:32 No, I don't, I think he could be passing. Straight passing? Yeah. I have a better shot than Dary. And I know Jimmy's going to do some kind of gay edit right here. Okay. I'm already going to clock it in advance. I love the group chat.
Starting point is 02:11:46 When you're like, you know what? Jimmy, actually, like it's so funny. Oh, yeah, because Jimmy loves to do a little Oscar gay edit. Meanwhile, the comment is like, I love Jimmy. He's like a gayer Oscar. So there you go. There you go, Jimmy. Never forget the essence of my sparkle.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Okay, your Oscar is crazy Okay, I love it Okay, and then Daryan what is like up at the gayest then? No, I don't know I don't know how you rank these things Not my place We need to do an S D. No, let's not, no
Starting point is 02:12:12 Darian is just too He's like too pretty Where it's like, yeah, you're gay You know what I mean? Whereas like I can I can bunch it up a little bit Just because I My features aren't like as pretty as Daring
Starting point is 02:12:25 Like Daryan is just a pretty Pretty person, yeah But he's quiet Like, you know, talking, I wouldn't be like, yes. That they used to be allowed to be gay, but. But even, like, when he walks in the street, like, the, he, there was a man outside of Staples the other day at the office supply store and yelled at him, hey, F, Slur, get out of the way.
Starting point is 02:12:48 So, and he was just walking. Unhouse person? I didn't get the details on who it was. Just a person shot at it. I would think it was someone just unwell or something. Right. That makes sense. He wasn't his gym club.
Starting point is 02:13:00 That was his gym outfit. Oh, so he was as mask as you can get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And his little aloe shorts and white t-shirts. He was clocked. He was clocked the house.
Starting point is 02:13:11 Allo, though, is, most was about to go into aloe the other day. There's an all that up near us. And he's like, maybe you should go in there for some shirts. That's where he, yeah. That's where he went to, you know. Is it gay? Well, he likes a good, you know, three-inch short. Oh.
Starting point is 02:13:27 You should wear a three-inch shorts. Mosul looks so good When he wears like boxers Because you have long legs Long legs and thick thighs Your thighs are so good They're like tree trunks Oh
Starting point is 02:13:37 You should wear short shorts though Why? I love short shorts on a guy Gay or straight or fluid Like when Hassan wear short shorts Like he wears his little Yeah I think we're a bit different
Starting point is 02:13:51 You wear short shorts sometimes Maybe not three inches But I like short shorts on you do I do I like a shorter short because I'm short so I feel like it makes me look You're not sure
Starting point is 02:14:01 I feel like you say that but you're not sure I feel like Jimmy just got hashtag partner with the little short short company you see his Instagram story I was like work okay He was doing squats Jimmy and you can insert your own B roll here on his story He did like squats
Starting point is 02:14:15 And his little gay short It was a gay company Yeah it was a gay company Little gay shorts I love that He does he is a great shorts model too Yeah he's the original shorts short person I know
Starting point is 02:14:28 Yeah, because he loves like a very tight and short short. Yes, you should. You should show off those legs. You and Daryon looked very handsome at the party. You guys make a good-looking couple. You're not like, you always act like you're so out of like, you know, league of Daryan. And he is very handsome, but you compliment him well. Like, you know.
Starting point is 02:14:46 Yeah, it's just funny. Anytime we like go out though, it's like, and he meets people, be like, oh my God, you are just, they'll stop him and like, you are just so pretty. That's my mom with him for sure. It's like, wow, Oscar is boyfriend. When that photo booth at the at the Demi thing, it like made, it just makes smooth your skin and stuff. Like, it just made you look like fierce. Did it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:06 And but Darian though, because he already has like really smooth, like perfect skin. It just made him look like a baby almost because his skin is already perfect. That's so funny. So it was like smoothing on top of already like smooth skin. Ooh, I love that. So like the one of just me and him, I was like, you almost look too. Airbrush or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:23 Because it just like looked like. Fake. Yeah. I'm like, okay. Let me not put. The group shot of us was a little bit less intense. I don't know if I ever, where our photos go? I don't know if I ever saw them.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Do we get them? They must be in your bag. First, whatever you had that thing. I didn't look now if they, I love, that photo booth was great. It wasn't, because it wasn't just a photo booth. That was like a set. It was like someone taking your picture from like far away. I loved that.
Starting point is 02:15:45 I don't have to look at ours. Yeah, you guys looked very, you guys looked cool. I felt cool coming to the party with you guys. I was like, look at these cool guys and we're like a part of it, you know. It was fun. That was the security card. Yeah, you were giving security for sure. I know.
Starting point is 02:15:58 I wanted you to wear my Britney Spears t-shirt, but he said it didn't look great on him. I thought I was going to look good. You wore pink, though. You end up wearing pink. You wear some color, which is good. You always wear black. No, I was fine with pink. It just hurt that t-shirt specifically.
Starting point is 02:16:09 Nobody would believe it. Believe what? That I was wearing that t-shirt. That you were Britney-Stewell. He didn't like that. It was a pit-me-baby one more time, one. Oh. What era would you prefer?
Starting point is 02:16:21 I'm right. I'm right. Black-hour. Maybe her with a snake or something. Oh, okay. Yeah. for you. That one.
Starting point is 02:16:28 Next time we'll get that one. I was going to wear the shirt today. I don't know what happened. I was going to wear it and then I forgot. Anyways. Should we end on the big YouTube scandal of the week? Which really has been a mind-bender. It was the drama over the Louis Vuitton makeup launch.
Starting point is 02:16:48 No. I haven't seen the drama. I just thought people were viewing it. I didn't know there was drama. Yeah. I'm going to do very top line. because I was trying to get in the weeds and it was like kind of hurting my head. There is part of me where it was like, this is so insurious.
Starting point is 02:17:02 But then the other half of me was like, I kind of love that it's so insurious. Like makeup, PR package drama because it's just so like 2018 to me. Like it's so at the end of the day, it's just makeup. Like it's that everyone's just like so in it. So it is kind of funny to me. I love drama like this. I do love a drama where it's like not serious. You know, like the Ariana is coming for Michaela and Haley.
Starting point is 02:17:26 it's like love it it's cute but like so funny and not serious yeah but with this it was a whole debacle because Louis Vuitton in collaboration I think Pat McGrath is like in charge of it the Louis Vuitton
Starting point is 02:17:40 makeup collection but they launched their own makeup collection and it's like lipstick palette and other makeup products and the prices were pretty intense I think the makeup brush set was like over $1,000 it does include like a little Louis Vuitton pouch and
Starting point is 02:17:55 and stuff and then all the brushes have like the louis baton logo it's like the gold handles and everything um the mate the lipsticks i believe are 65 i think 160 dollars oh for the lipstick yes 160 dollars oh now we need a fact check yeah i'm like a thousand percent sure you would know because you're a you are a louis girl yes okay so it is 160 for a case of lipsticks um and the refills are 69 so we're both $160 for lipstick is insane. It is crazy. Did we see
Starting point is 02:18:31 Michaela trying to watch? Yeah, I saw Michaela and Jeffrey. The eyeshadow case and refill are priced at $250 and then additional refills are 92 and it's only like four in the case. It is asinine to me
Starting point is 02:18:46 but also I'm like it is like a luxury excessive kind of thing so I'm like I really don't care that much. A purse can last you a lifetime But makeup goes bad You can use it all in a year Like it just is disposable
Starting point is 02:19:01 Like you throw it away But the packaging Like you keep that packaging And then you buy the refills Granted the refills are still expensive But like you keep the shell or whatever Of or you keep the little thing That the brushes come in
Starting point is 02:19:14 Blah blah blah And you just refill everything else Which it's like just like their purses I'm like 99% sure I can say allegedly It's like they're all made Where all the knockoffs are made You know what I mean
Starting point is 02:19:23 Like they're made for the same value. Yeah. The markup is like I can't even think of the percentage. Because I remember when the terrorist first happened, like there was people in China would be like posting stuff and be like this is where it's like yeah. And it's marked up like an insane markup. Yeah. But again, to me I'm just like, do I really can't know? No, because it's not for like it's for people who have so much like money and like don't care about wasting it.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Yeah, I guess. Where I'm like, whatever. But then the whole debacle was they sent out PR packages for the Louis Vuitton makeup. Some people got them. Some people didn't. Some people got bigger ones than others, which I thought was funny. Who got the biggest? Jackie I got like a really big one.
Starting point is 02:20:07 But she works with Pat. She's worked with Pat McGrath before. She has a good relationship. She's like an OG beauty girl too. Yeah. So it makes sense. And then like the smaller influencers got like not the full collection or whatever. That makes sense.
Starting point is 02:20:21 I get that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but then the debacle was Nikki Tutorials and James Charles both posted about it. And they did not get PR packages. And they made that like very, very clear in their reviews. But they were mad about it? It was kind of bitter.
Starting point is 02:20:37 Yeah, bitter boots. Obviously, that price tag and everything about this launch has been very controversial. However, if you look online, there's not been one negative thing said about this brand as of yet because every influencer got it in PR. Well, I did it. I went to the Louis Vuitton store in New York City when I was there a couple of days ago and spent $800. Are we ready to roast a brand? Because I am ready to roast a brand. Now, just like any other luxury brand like Hermes or Chanel or Gucci or you name them, name them.
Starting point is 02:21:08 And Louis Vuitton was the odd one out because they never really dived into beauty until today. And I wish they never did. Nikki too? I can see James. What a Nikki? Nicky's was, and I love Nikki tutorials down. like that's a sister to me, but she was so shady
Starting point is 02:21:24 about it. She made it very clear. She did a YouTube video and a TikTok review and she made it very clear that she didn't. She's like, you might have seen everyone get the Louis Vuitton makeup, but I didn't get a PR package. And then I guess she keeps talking about how she had one negative review of a Pat McGrath product in 2020. And after that
Starting point is 02:21:42 she has gotten off the PR list for Pat McGrath or whatever. So she just makes it like very abundantly clear that she was not on the PR list. Okay. And she gives the products like a really bad review and talks about the, she's very over the top about it, like about the price. And I'm like, yeah, obviously the price, like it's not, it's not like rare beauty is priced at $165, $9, you know, for a lipstick. Because if they did, if like Selena did that, if like Elf did, like, you know, if Roe did that, it'd be. Elf would be crazy.
Starting point is 02:22:14 It'd be like, Matt Wright and $130. Yeah. They do it next. Yeah. Like if it's like an influencer brand or like a Michaela or whatever like obviously it's like then it feels predatory to your fans or whatever but people who are buying Louis Vuitton are also I know the persons are different because they are more like also an investment like a lot of them hold value or increased value. Yeah. So it doesn't it's not like a fair comparison. But the average Louis Vuitton consumer is just has more disposable income.
Starting point is 02:22:40 Yeah. And it's obviously like they're not marketing towards like teenagers or whatever. Right. So to me I was like kind of okay the whole basis of the argument. it kind of just seemed like, girl, is the PR list that important? She was like, she didn't make it clear. I had to go out and buy it myself and this is crazy. Who would spend this much money?
Starting point is 02:22:58 Well, you did, girl. I know. And also, I'm like, there's something kind of unsheek to me about millionaires complaining about the PR list. Like, there's something, it's just very uncheek that I'm like, yeah, yeah. And then James was very similar to, he was like, I am not on the PR list. And because I am not on the PR list, I'm going to give you the only honest review about this, which is the implication.
Starting point is 02:23:18 that every other thing that you reviewed that you got PR is you lying then like it was a weird thing to like say and then he um reviewed the products and he said i can 100% say that this is a scam blah and i'm like again this is not like an influencer i think if james charles was pricing it these products at that price obviously people would be mad at him but for like a luxury brand i don't know is it really that shocking not really but i mean i get what they're saying but like you said in the same breath them being like I didn't get on the PR list it's like why do you want to buy it why are you even contributing to the craziness and the tastelessness
Starting point is 02:23:59 of a lipstick being $1006 to the now you know because you can afford to get it like what other influencer like would be able to get it you know what I mean unless you're like you said like a millionaire
Starting point is 02:24:06 you know yeah and also I think it's funny because they also like have Louis Vuitton in designer products too so to be like who would possibly spend this much money
Starting point is 02:24:16 on something design and like I think Nikki had um louis Vuitton like bandana on her head and like well how much was that oh really yeah that's so funny it's so weird yeah i don't know people with like that already have a lot of designer stuff like complaining about the prices of the it's just so weird yeah like you should just think i did this for the video for the content whatever but yeah the bitterness of being not being a pierre i mean very me coded i'm not gonna lie me not getting a domino sponsorship i'm gonna be right there too but it is um yeah i mean it just comes across as like
Starting point is 02:24:46 you should just say i bought this for the thing but to say it's like not a good product. I don't know. I didn't try it, but Michaela was also like, yeah, no lipstick should be worth $160 but she also was like, it's a pretty good product. Like, it's pretty nice. Same with like Jackie Ina and stuff, but then the big, and then Jeffrey Starr was another one who said, who was a fan of the product and liked it.
Starting point is 02:25:02 I think I'm thoroughly offended that anyone would think I would lie about something to give a free lipstick. No offense, but, huh? I can buy whatever the fuck with my own money. It's so offensive, but let's, let's use a preloaded brush and get into it. Um, so it was like a weird, I just didn't like the equivalent.
Starting point is 02:25:18 And let's see of like, oh, because I'm not on the PR list, I'm going to give you an honest review. Where, like, everyone is going to have a bias. Like, either you're on the PR list or not. Like, if you're not on the PR list, you're biased because you're mad that you're not on the PR list. That's so true. And then if you are on the PR list, you also are likely to have a bias because if you have some kind of like relationship with the PR company or whatever. So either. So either way, there is going to be a bias. And making it clear which side you're on seems like not fair either.
Starting point is 02:25:41 It's like you should just say like, I'm testing out this product. Yeah. And then weird of like Nikki and. James Simpli that anyone who liked it is just because they were bought off, you know? Yeah. Because I don't think that's the... No, I'm sure. I'm sure it's a great lipstick, you know?
Starting point is 02:25:57 Would you spend $100 on his question? But if they sent it to me, I'd be like, heck yeah. I know. And then James, in his video review, it was like everything was compared to, like, his own brand. He's like, as a beauty creator, I can tell you that this magnet cost $0.25. Like, everything was like... Okay, James. As a beauty, as a owner of a beauty brand, I can tell you that my shadows are so much more
Starting point is 02:26:15 pigmented and so much more glittery. Like, everything was like, girls. I'm like, girl, it's just a different customer. I don't know anyone talking about painted. You know what I mean? Like, maybe you're morgue palette. Okay, but the painted. Also, I loved it in James' video, too.
Starting point is 02:26:27 He was like, honestly, like, I could only for this if I had a sugar daddy and I am taking sugar daddy applications. I'm like, girl, you are the sugar daddy because you're the one that is flying out, allegedly, flying boys out and housing them. So aren't you are the sugar, like, you don't need a sugar daddy. You are the sugar daddy. And also, are you even interested in men that kind of age? Allegedly.
Starting point is 02:26:44 So I was like, this is kind of crazy. The whole thing was so crazy to me. And then Jeffrey Starr had like Tapsin because he got the PR package and he's like a Louis Vuitton Stan and he gave everything a glowing review. And then people were mad at Jeffrey because obviously his legacy is Jeffery Starr approved. He's like no nonsense. He's very honest. And then people were saying, well, Nikki and James gave this terrible review. So you must be lying because you want to be on the PR list.
Starting point is 02:27:09 And Jeffrey took a lot of offense to that. Yeah, of course. Because he never takes money, right? Is that his thing he never takes money for a sponsorship? And, like, I guess the thing he was offended by, too, was the, like, as someone who, I guess, has spent, he said, like, damn near a million dollars on Louis Vuitton that, like, the lipstick would be the thing to sell him on it. And he's also said that they didn't have to send him anything free, like, ever besides this. And this is their first, like, cosmetic. So it makes sense that they would do PR for this, especially in collaboration with, like, Pat McGrath.
Starting point is 02:27:39 But, yeah, he, like, went off on Nikki and James. The whole thing was so crazy to me. I didn't see that. What did he say? he was it was wild so he did a tic he was filming a tic-tok and doing a tic-tok live at the same time and so love that his tic-tok was like um sassy but not too terrible there was like a lot of like so why are we listening in james charles when he texts teenagers and then cut to his Instagram his ticot live his ticot like he was just like scream he's like you guys are leaving laughing emojis like
Starting point is 02:28:06 I don't think this is funny like he was screaming I thought the dichotomy was like very funny to me um I had the whole thing so insane like i i hate this i like i do see geoffrey's side though i will say if i had to choose a side between all this like unsurious because he did clock that they seem like kind of like a little bit there is like a bias with them yeah not wanting to support the louis Vuitton thing and then there's also like i obviously geoffrey would be biased too just because he is a stand and then, like, Louis Vuitton, like, if Popmar's releasing a new Labibu, I'm excited for it. Yeah, of course. Like, you would just like it.
Starting point is 02:28:48 Yeah, like, if you supported a brand for a long time, like, you would be excited about the release and, like, you would get it and then you would obviously go in with, like, a positive attitude about it versus, you know, Nikki not getting a PR package and going in with a bad attitude about it. Of course. And, like, I highly doubt Louis Vuitton's putting out, especially, like, you said, Matt McGrath is, like, a huge makeup artist and, like, has been making makeup a long time. It's obviously a good product.
Starting point is 02:29:10 Now, whether or not they, like, marked it up so much. even think is a question for James Charles to be like this was 25 cents well that's just to how it works like you too James Charles you're also making stuff like everyone anyone who makes a product is marking it up and it just depends on what you want the markup to be and like like you said influencers do have it a little tougher because like you can't charge too much but you're louis Vuitton and for some reason that name has always just been able to get a lot of money and people spend ridiculous amounts on this including myself and you're just like they have a pen that someone was talking about like a Mont Blunk pen I think I saw Alex
Starting point is 02:29:36 Kansani's what's my purse and she's like oh this is a Mont Blanc Pen or something that my friends got me so I looked it up I was like Mont Blanc Pen and then it took me to like louis Vuitton was the first one a thousand dollars for a pen i was like i want this pen but i was like let me not be too crazy but it is insane way people will charge for like a pen you know like but if you have the name i don't know if painted by james charles you're going to be able to get that you know so i think it to keep it low it's the same societal cachet i guess as a louis Vuitton yeah and he was just you know he's probably using it to promote his brand too he's like oh but painted it's just so great because i was thinking too like yes obviously
Starting point is 02:30:11 I love a PR list but like I was on the Taylor Swift PR list when I like this one I got on it like 2016 2017 and then I when I wasn't in media like in entertainment news anymore when I just worked for Joey I got off of it because I wasn't in media anymore and then when I went back to like entertainment news I didn't ask like to be put back on it because I'm like well does it really matter like I don't getting a vinyl and like a t-shirt isn't like the end all bill something I'm going to buy anyway. I just don't understand the like... The bitterness.
Starting point is 02:30:45 Yeah, over a PR list. Especially when you see like Michaela, like do like the... Oh, the unboxing, like a hundred boxes. I'm like, girl, this is the excess of it. Yeah, she's like, people will be like, oh, like this... Why don't they give them to people who like... Why don't they give them to people and she gets called marketing? Like, you know, do like stows back at people.
Starting point is 02:31:01 And it's like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's... I'm on the line. I'm on the fence of it because like it's nice to get PR because then you're like, oh my gosh. Like we're on the, I think I'm only on like one list. Plur, is that the one? Yes, I love that PR list. Oh, Ian Charms, shout out.
Starting point is 02:31:18 I'm on their PR list. Yeah, so I guess it's like cool. Like it's kind of a cool like little perk. You're like, oh wow, I got this like cute little thing in the mail. But yeah, showing like, I don't know. I wouldn't go to my TikTok with millions of followers and be like, not only, you know what? I wouldn't like go out of my way to like a boohoo about not being on a peer list when I can afford. Like they're just so rich that I'm like the thought of you trying to relate to me.
Starting point is 02:31:40 You know, when you have, like, houses and businesses and cars, and you already have Louis Vuitton, you're going to try to relate to the everyday person who's working 90 hours a week. Like, girl, we're not. You don't relate to me. So don't sit here and try to act like you can relate to my struggles because it's very different. I'm surprised, yeah, I'm surprised Nikki tutorials like that. James, I, like, exactly. James comes to expect.
Starting point is 02:32:02 I feel like Nikki might have been blinded by, like, you know, revenge or something. Yeah. And also, I get, like, you see everyone else getting it and you're like. I'm, I know, like, I'm Mickey's tutorials. It's in my name. Right, right. Like, why not I? I would get that.
Starting point is 02:32:16 I guess it is kind of like seeing people get Domino's sponsorships and not me. And I'm like, well, damn. I'm happy for them, but couldn't it have been me, you know? But at least you're like cutesy. Like, I think if she was cutesy about it versus like, she really had a vendetta against. Like, by the way, I didn't get this. And she had a lot to say about Pat McGraughts who was like, Dana. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 02:32:35 She's like, by the way, this sucks. My lips have broken out. Well, she was using the light of shades, and she was like, it's not showing up. I mean, she has very, like, fair skin. So obviously she's using like a light. I'm like, yeah, you're going to have to go in the pan a couple times. Oh, no. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:32:51 It's all so in serious. But people were so mad about it. About Nikki. I think people were more mad about Louvitant General. Louis Vuitton and anyone who liked it because, yeah, just the assumption that like. That I get too. I think it's just like the timing of the world. It's like back in the day, everyone would do house tours and unboxing person.
Starting point is 02:33:09 And I just think, yeah, it's like, it's like the tart trip. It's like anything. It's like, you know, the state of the world maybe doesn't want to see people trying on a hundred sticks out, lipstick. Because it makes people feel bad at the end of the day, right? It kind of just makes people, it shouldn't. And I get the marketing of it all and everything. And I'm like, whatever.
Starting point is 02:33:25 But I do think it makes people feel bad sometimes if you don't want to see it. There's totally an elitism thing with it 100%. Yeah. But I think I fear, I'm not saying it's right, but I fear that that is a part of luxury designer or goods anyway is like the elitism of it right like it is like a like people spend crazy money on watches or bags or whatever and it is like a status you know simple or whatever but but do you need to like show it to everyone maybe just like you know in your own cute little wherever you are your little gated community wear it or something you know what i don't know in your house i don't
Starting point is 02:34:00 know because i'm kind of yeah if you like nice things and you work hard for it yes but do you have to show it all i don't know yeah i do it is kind of like in your face especially the way TikTok reviews go like it is so like in your face and stuff about at the end of the day like it is just makeup
Starting point is 02:34:19 I wasn't interested in it to begin with after all this drama I'm just sure Louis Vuitt's Holland is loving it because it's like oh for sure it's so like it's everywhere everyone's been talking about like Jeffrey versus James and Nikki
Starting point is 02:34:30 and the Louisville's yeah it's crazy it's like drama and dream honestly yeah she's Shane what did he have to say about it you know he's retired from the Beetian Come on, Shane, Patreon. I almost subscribe to that Patreon. Oscar, 70, a mug fan.
Starting point is 02:34:43 We almost went the full episode. Oh, no. We're so close. I need to know where Shane's thoughts on is. Oh, my God. Should have stopped the episode. Put him in the thumbnail. Shane, Jeffrey, James.
Starting point is 02:34:58 With the eye shadow on it. I love when he tested it. Yes. Oh, my God. That'd be so good. Lipsick Gate, Dramageddon 3.0. All of them involved. It is nuts.
Starting point is 02:35:07 He might chime in. I chime in over on the page. Maybe I'll subscribe. You said you did a muck bang. I'm like, maybe I'll subscribe. I'm here for it. I'm here for the drama that doesn't include me. Honestly, yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 02:35:19 But honestly, you're on the side. Your team, it's okay to have these lipsticks. I think team, they should have ever have been made. I might be posing on this one. I just like, who care? Like, I was, I mean, I don't even wear eye shadow nor lipstick. So I don't know why I'm even like trying to chime in here. But to me, I'm just like, whatever.
Starting point is 02:35:36 Like, it's just so. I walk by Louis Vuitton so I don't think twice you know I'm like work you know but are they philanthropic are they feeding children anywhere that are starving I would venture to say not really so Mr. Louis Vuitton maybe go and feed some some children that are hungry in this world there's a lot of them see and it's really sad and again I think I'm all about billionaires but I also think they should share a little about their wealth take care of your own right love that but also donate some food. Well, you're pro-billionaire?
Starting point is 02:36:10 Yeah, if they can give half of that billion to kids eating. Oh, well, I fear a lot of them aren't. Isn't Taylor Swift? You said she's philanthropic. She's a billionaire. True. Yeah, you're right about that. You know, so I'm pro her. Okay, work, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 02:36:22 She did, at every tour stop, she went and donated food, yeah. If I could be a billionaire, which I would have been, if I would have won Powerball last week, I could have, like, helped so many kids in the world, you know? That's a good point. Okay. So philanthropic billionaire is just a poor. not the evil ones
Starting point is 02:36:38 Mr. Beast. I don't know if he's a billionaire, but Okay, good, just kidding. Keep it that way. Keep it that way because we do not support you. Well, you guys, yeah, these influencers are not billionaires and at the end of the day,
Starting point is 02:36:51 they could lose it all too. There's a phone call for you. To end the show? Jimmy. Actually? Mr. Beast? He wants to talk to you. That was Jimmy or editor.
Starting point is 02:37:02 Me too. I was like, wait, what? Yeah, don't. That's scary. You're like, we've got to go. There's a phone call. All right. Well, we do have to go.
Starting point is 02:37:10 Huh? Expect one. From Jimmy, the Beast, Mr. Beast? That's ominous. I hate that we have an undername Jimmy and he has to share a name with Mr. Beast. I know. And James Charles technically. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:23 Okay. Well, sorry to all the gyms out there. We need a name for hours, like a nickname. Gay Jimmy. Gay Jimmy. I like it. Perfect. Oscars that and not me.
Starting point is 02:37:34 Well, thank you for watching, and we love you guys. And I think this was a great episode. I'm proud of all of us. I'm proud to know you, Oscar. I'm proud to know you, Moses. She's going on his speech now. I know. Every time I see an award, I feel like I need to thank people.
Starting point is 02:37:55 Oh, I was like, where are you going with this? No, I don't know. Honestly, that was just thanking everybody that I'm appreciative. I'm giving gratitude. And Jimmy, too. I've never met, I've never seen an editor get so many. compliments and comments in the section. Jimmy really is the fourth co-host,
Starting point is 02:38:09 which you'll be here for Halloween. Get that costume around. My mom got hers. Do you have yours yet? What's that being? Oh, I did not tell you? Well, I'll text you. It's a secret.
Starting point is 02:38:19 Well, you guys, we love you. Thanks for being here and be kind to yourself. And, you know, be grateful for the meals you get today because not everyone gets them. And if you can try to donate a meal, we'll try to do that today. I'll call up somebody and see what we can feed people. I love you.
Starting point is 02:38:34 and we'll see in the next one. Bye.

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