Just Trish - Slayyyter On Remixing I LOVE YOU JESUS, Third Album & Dating a STARF---ER

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

Mama, this is a place for legends... pop music icon Slayyyter is here! The "Erotic Electronic" singer joins Trish to spill the tea on her meteoric rise to music stardom. From her upbringing as an outcast at Catholic school, to getting recognized by the likes of Lady Gaga. Plus, Slayyyter teases a remix of Trisha's iconic hit, "I Love You Jesus." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Woo! Hey guys! Welcome back to the Just Trish Podcast. I am so excited about today. Not only do I love her, but you guys love her. Literally the most requested on X. Like your stand Twitter is all about the one and only Selena! Woo! Oh my god. Popstar. I don't even think Popstar covers it. You're just like, you're really in your own category when it comes to music. I don't know how to describe it. I feel like I do. I rap a little. I do. I do it all, you know? That's what's crazy too. When you were saying like, I was like, I did a whole deep dive. I obviously have heard of you because so many people are like, Oh my God, you would like love Slater. Cause it's very like the music I love that I feel like doesn't like come out. You know what I mean?

It's like sexual, it's like hypersexual, but it's also like, you're actually talented too. Like you're actually like sing and write, which is crazy. Rapping's crazy. I saw in an interview that you were like, I told my teacher I wanted to win a Grammy for rapping. And I was like, wait, what? That's what? And she's like, that'll never happen. She like laughed at me.

Yeah. Well, it was, I was kind of joking. I was like, I want to be in music. And she was like, well, you should pick something else. And I was like, you know, in Missouri. So it's like, she doesn't. They don't get it. Yeah, they don't get it.

I'm from Illinois. So when I heard you were like Midwest girl, like you must have been so bored back there knowing who you are. Yeah. It's like, I feel like I dressed really crazy I would wear like baby spice like big platform shoes to the bar and I was like bleach like white blonde I worked at a hair salon so I was very yeah you know like I don't know I never felt like I fit in people thought I was weird was this back in Missouri you were dressing like that yeah back I didn't do bleach blonde till I came to LA because

back in the Midwest they would look at you some type of way because you're also like about a decade younger than me because I feel like my era it still was like kind of cool to be platinum not that it wasn't them but I feel like you were like even vintage like throwback with the platinum yeah well everyone I looked very like trashy that was like my everyone just thought I was like a little trash rat did you love it though yeah I did that was like my vibe I've always been like I kind of own being a trashy girl. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that's like the best. I think even Dolly Parton said it. She's always said her style was like a mix between mother goose and your local hooker. And I loved it. Like the neighborhood whore. Like you wanted to, yeah. Yeah.

You don't want to be the girl down the street. You're like, I want to be the like, not the girl next door, but the whore down the street. Yeah. The whore down the street. I love that.

I think that's like, who are your inspirations when it comes to like trashiness? Like in a good way that we mean it like lovely. Honestly, with love, because I feel like she's not like this anymore. But like I loved like Lindsay Lohan tabloid era, like just like clocky extensions, like falling out. Like I still am like that. So iconic.

I can't figure out the back of the head. Do you do your own extensions? Yeah, I can never do it either. I do the clip ins and it looks real crazy. I love it. If I can't see it, no, like it doesn't exist. That's how how i feel i never do the back of my head ever it's like kind of everything i feel like now with the platinum it's like you're still holding on to it i like love it yeah you know it's giving like i loved like jenna jameson and like the 90s and like all that the trashy

core i love you nicole i don't consider her like trashy but other people would and i thought yeah like the playboy models the like the maxim, like bimbo, if you will, which I feel like that word has become kind of like a funny internet culture. But back when that was kind of an insult, I loved those kinds of women. The big boobs, the nails, the hair, like that, yeah. Me too.

I know you were talking about, because you don't have yours done, right? Because you're talking about this in an interview. No, yeah, I don't. And you were wanting to go to Dr. Saving up rate what's his name roddy rabon yeah i looked him up after you said it and i was like i want to get mine right he's like the tit master he specializes in like the teardrop eyes wide shut like perfect teardrop tit oh man when i saw that i was like oh i want to get them done too i think like because it's so hard to find a good boob

doctor yeah that's kind of everything yeah i feel like if you shout him out enough he'll probably just do you for free i know i'm like please dr rady please i love i love surgery though i'm like very pro plastic surgery i have like a song about it i just i think it's like i don't know it's kind of cool that you can kind of design yourself you want to look and i think it goes like a little too i love it too but then there's some like extremes of it yeah not that i don't mind it do you watch nine day fiance sometimes have you seen dar Stacey? No. They're like these twins that have like crazy surgery. They go to Turkey like once a year and get everything done. Turkey. And they have the bleach blama and I love it. They're like in their fifties and they're getting surgery. I'm like, that's going to be me for sure. That's kind of everything. I love that you mentioned Eyes Wide Shut. We were talking

right before this that you're like in old Hollywood, like you love like throwback. Obviously your album is very like 80s visualized. And The Eyes Wide Shut. We were just talking about this the other day. I haven't seen it. Really? Is it like, okay, this is a sex party? Oh, you would love it.

It's a really, it's a crazy movie. It's like old, old, like I think it's Stanley Kubrick's last film, but it was Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. And it's basically, the themes of it are about like infidelity in a way. And like this whole, he goes on this crazy

night where he's like trying to cheat on his wife but his wife tells him the story about how she like wanted to hook up with a sailor and like I don't want to give anything away but yeah there's like a sex party and it's it's really it's it's weird is it like hot it's like a sexy movie or no I mean it's hot but at the same time it's very like spooky it's almost like scary because it's like this secret cult and there's like rumors where like Stanley Kubrick was kind of like, you know, after this movie came out, he like mysteriously died.

And it's because it's like exposing like Hollywood sex rings. I'm like, I believe it though. No, literally this morning glam was telling me about it, how there would be like these sex bars. Like, what does that mean?

Like there'd be a dinner and then afterwards they all just like hook up with each other. Have you ever been invited to one? No, but I've heard from girls like stripper friends of mine or like whoever that like they do exist and like they will go oh my god and it's like people who are like very famous that like just talking up i know and i'm like with like a if you're like a famous person like with your fit like how could you not be like nervous about that information but they keep it all really under wraps,

I guess. They must like take your phone away or something, right? Yeah, for sure. Would you go if you were invited? Absolutely. Oh my gosh.

I'm like, if anyone's watching, I would love to come. Oh man, that would have been my dream single. Like just to see like celebrities there and just like everyone just having sex. Y'all are f***ing like what? I'd be like,

whoa. Oh man, that's so exciting. I love that you know people that go there though. That's like everything. I knew they were real. I know. I got to see that movie. We were just talking. I love this actor named Alan Cumming. Do you know him? Oh, of's so exciting. I love that you know people that go there though. That's like everything. I knew they were real. I got to see that movie.

We were just talking. I love this actor named Alan Cumming. Do you know him? Oh, of course. Yes, he's in it, right? Because he was like, and I never, and I can't imagine what he would be in it. I'm like, is he, because he's never like a sexual character.

He's not really in the sex scene. He plays like a hotel clerk, which is so funny. He's in like all of these favorite movies of mine, but like none of them have anything to do with each other. Like Eyes Wide Shut, like Josie and the Pussycats. I'm like the versatility of him. Romy and Michelle. Yeah, Romy and Michelle. It's insane.

Yeah, that's it. So I just I love him now because I'm watching The Traitors. So I'm kind of just like obsessed with him again. God, he was in all the great movies when we were like young. I need to see that. What is that? It's so oh my God, you haven't seen The Traitors? Are you into reality TV at all?

Yeah, love. Okay, it's on Peacock and he hosts it. It's like in a Scottish castle and all these like reality TV stars all? Yeah, love. Okay, it's on Peacock. And he hosts it. It's like in a Scottish castle. And all these like reality TV stars like from Real Housewives. I don't watch those shows. But like all reality TV stars come. And it's kind of like, it's like a murder mystery. They like murder people.

And you have to guess who did it. And he's like the host of it. And he comes on like fabulous kilts and stuff. Oh, love. Yeah, you would be so good on it. I want to go on it so bad. There's a season three coming. So you have to.

I feel like if we both go. They always have like a connection of two people knowing each other from their show. So I feel like if they did some sort of social media thing. Or we could also be pop music girlies. I had a career for a year in pop. Freaky is one of my favorite songs ever. Trust and believe. Yes.

Oh my god. I wanted to be you so bad. Your career is my dream career. Come on. You don't even understand. The cult following your music is incredible. Oh my gosh. Thank you like freaky is a great pop song you know what i mean i like i love that song oh my god thank you i feel like i just really wanted to be britney kind of like you like the britney that you heidi montag you listen and i just had her on and i'm like

she was another queen that i was like i want to be that so bad yeah and you really you really emulate them so well like just that whole early 2000s like yeah And you really, you really emulate them so well. Like just that whole early 2000s. Like, yeah, thank you. I feel like it's just being a fan of pop music, you know, I feel like trend cycles come and go. And I feel like pop music hasn't been like a very cool thing for a very long time, but it's kind of coming back like with Tate McRae and the choreo and like bubblegum pop. I feel like is people are into it now oh for sure and I feel like you keep it alive too but I love with Starfire I thought that like the visuals of that was so cool why did you choose like 80s vibes for it I just love I love an 80s erotic thriller I love like the Brian De Palma

like you know like silhouette like slinky woman smoking a cigarette I love the movie um Basic Instinct too yes like the Sharon Stone like I wanted to do like a really dramatic version of you know I don't know my apartment in my life in LA I like collect all that like 80s deco furniture so I was like I want the album cover to be like look like my apartment if I had like more budget so your cover the one in the red jacuzzi was like the glass brick wall is that that in your house or no? Oh, no. That was at this place in Vegas. This little. Where was that?

It's like a little like like Moon Studios, something like it's a guy who does like peer spaces or whatever. Oh, I see. He designs with all that vintage furniture. But the album like the album cover, like the one of me with like the cigarette that was shot in Chicago in like a studio and they brought in all the furniture. And like I have one of those like mirrored headboard old bed beds so it's like this really dramatic version of like what I feel like my apartment would be do you have any like hints of that in your apartment now like little traces

of it yeah definitely like my sheets are like black silk like to match the album and everything yeah oh that's everything I love it I love a mirrored headboard I think that looks so cool we put glass brick upstairs and literally because my husband does like furniture design and I wanted the glass brick like beetlejuice like the blue and he's like i don't know if this is gonna like upgrade the value of our property because it looks like it's from like the 80s i think like people will be like um i don't know if i want this i want more modern well that's the thing too like all that 80s those 80s houses like were seen as so dated so so many got knocked down but like those old like miami style like that like cocaine decor like that all is like everyone sees is so dated.

But I love it. I love it, too. I hate when they remodel it. Yeah, bathrooms, like pink old school marble tile bathrooms and all that stuff. And like people are like, it's so dated. And so I tore it down and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, no. That's what makes it cool.

Yeah. And all the mirrored like ceilings and stuff like all that. I wish I would make a comeback. I feel like you're kind of making a comeback with it, like all the design and stuff like that so you go to these peer spaces and they already are decorated like that or do you hire like a set designer some of them there I did some set design stuff for my album but every once like peer spaces get so blown up in LA like you'll see like other artists like everyone uses the same one so I try to like look in other cities where like they're not as like tapped into but um yeah a lot of the stuff for my album was set

designed by this these people breakfast for dinner in chicago they like did the whole album cover and everything it looks amazing it looks so good thanks i was reading to like your music videos i think it was with interviewer i think it was interview magazine you were saying like you do them like really low budget like you really is that by because they don't look like it but is it by choice or you said it's just hard to get money now for music videos it's hard I feel like unless you have a song that's really cracking off online labels don't want to make the investment in music videos because they don't really do anything anymore they used to be a big piece of the puzzle with like releases and stuff but now

it just doesn't really like it doesn't really like matter as much to do music videos but if you're like a visual artist and you like doing them then it's like obviously you want to have a piece of visual to go with the music but yeah like for my I have this song I Love Hollywood and I just she actually shot the video but we just went to the Chateau and like had a bunch of our friends and like my my DJ was like in the room DJing and we were like doing it like all secret because like we don't want to get kicked out but yeah just like on the fly super low budget no permission ask for forgiveness never permission i love that and they never say anything about it no no we did it we did a shoot once i shot it when i was doing only fans still we were like did it and i was like i wonder if i'm gonna get like in trouble for shooting like naked shots in

here and posting i think they like i think that they like think it like you know it's like a cool hotel i feel like they don't mind as much as long as you're not disturbing other guests they like they don't care. We went to one that had blood on the carpeting. It had blood stains on it. It's actually crazy. It's actually spooky. We were going to stay the night, and we ended up not staying the night.

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And, you know, people have died there for sure. So it's, I love the Chateau though. I feel like the history there is really insane. That's like really Hollywood, Hollywood lore. Oh, it totally. I mean, your lyric is literally like, I want to die at Chateau. I was like, okay. Right? right that's but you know what so it is it is so iconic for that reason right because all the rooms are so dark but they actually have good food too the restaurant

has like really good pasta it's really good yeah the bolognese excellent it's so good I feel like it's it's funny too it's such an expensive hotel so if you're from out of town and you're expecting like this luxury hotel you get in the rooms and like the carpet is stained and you're like, wait, what? Like, but it's so, it's like a bougie, you know, situation to stay there. But yeah, I love it there. Is that your favorite Hollywood hotel? Yeah, I think so. I feel like it's just, I don't know. It's such an iconic building. Like on sunset, it looks like this big castle. It's, it's my favorite that in sunset tower. I love, Oh, I haven't been there. Where's that one? Sunset tower. It's right across from saddle ranch actually which is so funny but um that's like old it's like the

art big art deco like high rise i think it was like leland bryant designed it it's like that old building right on sunset it's like you know kind of like the classier chateau like people aren't getting down right there they're not doing like hardcore drugs or anything i only know the best western across from saddle ranch i didn't it's like next to it yeah honestly it's the really big old building I feel like you would love it the vibe it's very old Hollywood vibes and like Tower Bar like the restaurant is really great the food's great there oh okay I have to try it out do you just like how do you find these hotels like through friends or do you just like go and hang out by like yourself I don't know I feel like that and Chateau are like those are really like famous ones in LA but I'm

just like a hotel girl like I love a hotel I love the robe i love having the room like clean for me like it's like a nice i like staycations i'd rather stay in la and stay at a hotel than like go on a vacation i agree i feel like we only do like la hotels and stuff that's why i'm surprised i've never been to sunset tower because we stayed at the andes we stayed at like so many different ones beverly hills hotel oh yeah which is like so great have you ever stayed in the bungalows there no that one i've never been to Beverly Hills Hotel wait really yeah I've never been there but I know that that one's like that's like one of the most famous ones in LA it feels bougie and like the polo lounge you've never been there for like lunch no no I know I know you're

like such a Hollywood girl and a hotel girl that's so crazy so go check it out yeah yeah I will and it's pink vibes you like the pink it's pink vibes. You like the pink, it's pink vibes. It's like pink carpet. Like palm. I know the wallpaper is like palm. Yeah. It's really, really cool. It's very like old too. It's very just like whatever, but it's like the fun part of it. So, okay. So you're from St. Louis. When did you come to LA? Were you like 18? I know I actually came here like four years ago. I haven't lived here for that long. Honestly, I started putting music out online in St. Louis and I was like, I was like a St. Louis like townie I was like I'll die here like I love St. Louis like you'll never take me out of here and I came here for a writing trip I would come to LA to do writing trips for my album and I would

do sessions with producers and I came in like March 20 or February 2020 and then like famously the world turned upside down yeah so I got kind of stuck out here and I was like I'll just get an apartment and yeah during quarantine during quarantine yeah whoa what was that like because did you like know people obviously knew people yeah I mean I knew a couple people it was like back when you could not see like a single soul so I was like pretty out here by myself and like it was fine I very Missouri of me I was like I want to live in Beverly Hills so like I picked this little shitty studio apartment in Beverly Hills and it was fine. I very Missouri of me. I was like, I want to live in Beverly Hills. So like I picked this little studio apartment in Beverly Hills and it was not by anything. Everyone's like, you live so far.

Like that's so far. Like no one like lives in Beverly Hills in an apartment. But yeah, I loved it. It was a great first year. I was just kind of just chilling. Yeah. Were you writing music during quarantine? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, the whole time I finished an album and was working on that's when I started Star F***er was like during quarantine. Oh, OK. So it gave you like lots of time to write. Yeah, definitely. Well, Beverly Hills too has a lot of like dark lore there too. Have you ever done the Hollywood Death Tour?

No. Oh, my God. They take you all around. And specifically in Beverly Hills, there's people who've been like mummified in their apartments. Like some director was like decapitated. Like not to get dark. I'm not into morbid, but it's all in Beverly Hills.

Crazy. And in those like apartment areas, like kind of bougie and everyone like there's so much dark history there oh my god yeah yeah this is one hell of a town let me tell you so what do you love about hollywood what draws you to it i don't know i just love i love the vibe here i love that it's like you're an hour from like the old western kind of vibes and like an hour from the mountains i just love it i feel like people that hate la i always i'm not even from here but i kind of vibes and like an hour from the mountains. I just love it. I feel like people that hate LA, I always, I'm not even from here,

but I kind of like, it like makes me upset when everyone, you know, everyone's like New York's cooler. LA. No. Right. I love it here.

I love old Hollywood culture. I love the buildings. I love the art deco. I just love it. I love the culture here. It's just great. You know, the vibes are just,

you just know there's so many people that came before you that you're like, this is so cool. Everyone's chill. There's there's so many layers like surfers and like all this different like i feel like there's so many different kind of pockets and everyone that says they hate la or it's fake like they're talking about entertainment they're not talking about yeah the city itself oh yeah they're talking about like tiktokers at like barnes beanery you know it's like okay yeah but if you go but like you said the surfers you can go to venice and then you can go to like santa barbara there's like just so many different pockets you can go to which is like silver lake is like a whole other thing which is like super cool quentin tarantino

just opened a coffee shop in silver lake and it's like cool so cool it's like so like did you ever see once upon a time in hollywood yes of course that's like the vibes i like but to me that's la i was like oh that's so cool like spawn ranch and stuff like that just feels cool even like mentioning him i live close in proximity to Beverly Cinema. Quentin Turney's new Beverly Cinema. And I remember seeing in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when they're at like El Coyote because that's where Sharon Tate had her last meal. And they're looking at that theater and it used to be a porn theater.

And they're like, can they put, because it's like a really, it's like an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood. So it was like kind of like wrong that they would have like an adult theater. So they changed it. Yeah. And so it got closed down because it was like a religious neighborhood. kind of like wrong that they would have like an adult theater. So they changed it. Yeah. And so it got closed down because it was like a religious neighborhood. They're like, you can't have like a nudie. It was like an adult theater.

And yeah, it got closed and they reopened and all this stuff. But in the movie, like that actually happened where they were like, oh, that's like a nudie theater, like blah, blah, blah. What kind of movies you think they show there? Oh, my God. You think about that? And the area is still very Orthodox. Like, yeah.

Have you been to the theater? Yeah. I saw Josie and the Pussycats there actually. No way. Yeah. They show that. Even think about that. And the area is still very orthodox. Like you've been now going, have you been to the theater? Yeah. I saw Josie and the Pussycats there actually. No way. Yeah. They show that. That's so random. I went by myself and they showed it on film.

It was great. I love it. I used to go when I moved here in 2006, I would go to all the midnight showings and that's where I met Quentin because I used to be obsessed with him. And so I would go and just kind of like hang out there every like Saturday night and he used to go all the time and he was always like so cool. But I just thought that theater is just so like vintage and nostalgic I didn't know it was a porn theater before yeah that makes it cooler though yeah I feel like it's interesting lore for the neighborhood I love that

you know so much like I do like you just know so much about so many things you know Alan Cumming I was like oh my god finally because I always talk about him and be like who and I have to show like pictures and I feel like an old soul like for my age like I really I don't know I always grew up like loving movies and loving cinema like I really I don't know I always grew up like loving movies and loving cinema and loving like I don't know my dad is really weird and would like show me and my sister like weird stuff really was he into it too like yeah he was always into movies and stuff and my mom kind of was too but like my dad was just into like SNL and actors and comedians and I feel like all these names like he got me into like Norm Macdonald when I was like

young so it's like stuff where I feel like people my age or younger might not like know who those people are but i always had an affinity for all those interesting because like that was like in the 90s which you were born so like 96 is like when they were on which is the year we were born so it's interesting so did he have him on like dvd or something i was showing yeah we would watch like the chris farley like snl dvd special those are the best where you can see like all their highlights like phil hartman yeah that was such a good era of snl like i feel like it'll never be recreated i know comedy is kind of in a stale point at this time yeah and i wonder if it's like because we're in it it's like will anyone look back and look at them like we look at chris farley and so i don't

know maybe but yeah i kind of feel the same especially with movies there's no like good movies that come out anymore right norm mcdonald's so good he had such a good podcast too his podcast or he had a show on netflix that was so good i just loved his sense of humor too i loved his voice he had like that raspy yeah he was just so funny his week i think he got fired from snl actually because he was like so he would just like say stuff and they'd be like whoa just like off the cuff yeah like i love that stuff about like oj simpson and he just would you know like as a comedian i feel like a good comedian like pokes the bear yeah and he would do that like takes the risks and stuff like that would you I feel like you should do SNL like

perform on there I would love to that's like definitely um I feel like a lot of artists that's like the big career milestone but do you think still I feel like because you're so nostalgic you would love it I don't know I guess I guess it is kind of big now yeah I think it kind of puts a marker where like you know you've made it if you're like performing on SNL in a way yeah I feel like you made it because you perform at Pride I feel like that's I'm like how that's my making it I prefer that I love

the scene that I'm a part of like I love the gays I love yeah no you're like actually a gay icon which proves on Twitter like just everybody mentions you all the time in my mentions before I even ask like, what guest should I have? People just be like, look, get at Slater on the podcast. Like every, today even, like I didn't even ask. It's like wild. It's so crazy. I feel like you're a gay icon too, though. That's why there's like the, it kind of like it overlaps, you know? Yeah. Right. Kind of makes sense. Well,

I definitely like everything you do. I was like, this makes sense. Cause I like want to do it too. And it was specifically pride. Cause you were like at the original pride, right? You were at the one before it was like West Hollywood or was it West Hollywood I think it was West Hollywood because it was like a Hollywood yeah yeah there's like two now right so you were in June you performed okay so was it what year was this was this 2021 um I think yeah 2021 or 2022 so one year after like moving to LA you're like performing pride yeah which is so do you have like management that help you I always ask because I don't know any managers or anything like that. Oh yeah. When I first started putting music online, like I think a couple months into it,

this guy hit me up on Twitter and I was so like, you know, green to everything. So I was like, mom, like this guy wants to manage me. Like, I don't know if it's legit. And he flew to St. Louis, my manager, Kenny, and we've been working together for like five years, but he's like so great. You can get really unlucky in situations situations like that where it's like someone who's like seedy or like wants to take advantage of you or like it doesn't he always has had my best interest in her heart and he's like he's like a music business like nerd like he like knows what he's doing and he's yeah he's great and so he gets you all these like opportunities and stuff like that yeah yeah well i was wondering i'm like how do people get to perform at pride like that really is agents you get like and you

work with like an agency that like books your shows and then you have like a manager who kind of does like the catch-all of everything and then so you have both you have both yeah oh that's so cool yeah and then you just tell him like this is what I want to do and he makes it happen yeah wow I mean within reason sometimes I'm like you know if I was like I want to perform on SNL he'd probably be like okay but don't you think he could make it happen I feel like no no you need to be like big you need to like have like you need to have songs like going what about that one that went viral though and no one

knew who they were you remember Greta Von Fleet or something oh yeah I feel like they weren't big before at SNL then they did SNL and it kind of went viral yeah I feel like I don't know I feel like sometimes they bring on random people then they just become huge you have to have like a really I don't know you have to like really they bring on random people, then they just become huge. You have to have, like, a really, I don't know, you have to, like, really have, like, there's got to be some connection in there.

I wonder if it's, like, yeah, I guess you'd have to, like, tone down your act a little bit because, like, your tour, what'd you just finish? You just finished it, right? You were just in Australia? Yeah, yeah. Club Valentine, was that? So that started last year in Boston. Yeah.

So you've been touring six months or how long? A couple. I kind of will have breaks on and off in between. But yeah, it started in like November of last year. And then I had like a bit of an off period. And then in the new year, I went and did like the rest of my tour in UK and then Australia. And then now I'm kind of off for the year, which is nice. Oh, really?

There's no tour planned? I have like festivals all summer, but not like a hefty like full date like run. I'm like not doing that for a while. Do you produce your own show? Do you have like help with that um I have help I work with a touring company Beehive that's really great and I kind of just will be like I want to do this vibe this vibe and they kind of make it work it's amazing and all your costumes are so good that's I was thinking about us and I was like which of those costumes could you wear because they're all like S&M like latex I mean they're hot literally probably could I mean Lady Gaga can wear that

stuff on us yeah you probably could true I yeah I would love to have you to a show sometime oh my gosh I feel like dream right watching you perform just online the stuff I saw is like this is like my kind of show it's just so I don't even know how you describe it because it's Britney but it also feels very like intimate too it's very like club kid like I don't know how to yeah it's like a little bit of both it's kind of like theater but it's also yeah like I feel like I'm very club kid vibes in the way I like to like perform and just like run around and scream and you know and the outfits and the chaos of it all it's so much fun it's also very like draggy too it's very that absolutely which is like fun I don't know you just have you really embody all of it which I think is thank you were you a theater kid kind of somewhat I I was in choir and I in high school I was like pretty

rebellious towards the end of like my high school career so like there came a time where I was like hanging out with like the skater boys and I wanted them to think I was cool and I was like yeah theater's lame and I'd like smoke cigarettes outside of like skip class but um I always loved theater and I love musicals like I love Andrew Lloyd Webber and like all that but I was never in like my choir director would be like you should audition for singing in the rain I'd be like no like even though I know that I love that musical and I know it like the back of my hand and I love that movie but yeah so you never did you never like auditioned for plays yeah not really I would do solos in choir and that was

like my big one that was like my big thing wow and what would you guys sing in choir what kind of show tunes were you like glee um some of it was like actual like choral acapella like religious music and then sometimes we would do this thing called like best of broadway taste of jazz where we would like perform like west side story songs or like wicked but it wasn't like the play it was just like plucked songs oh that's fun so that's like a little bit of like the theater in you. Yeah, yeah. So where would you, did you just watch movies? You said you loved Andrew Lloyd Webber.

So would you go see the plays or would you watch the movies? I would watch the movies. Like the 70s, like Jesus Christ Superstar is like one of my faves of all time. Yeah. Wow, I love that. That's the one you pick. I'm over Phantom of the Opera. You're like, I like that one.

I do. I saw Phantom of the Opera in Chicago and that was really great. That's like, if you're like playing Christine, you got to have some crazy operatic pipes, which like I love, you know. You can sing opera, right? A little bit. I like, if I had a coach and I really like tried, I feel like I could, I can sing pretty high, but I'm not really, I'm not that like classically trained. So I'm like, whatever I'm doing, I feel like I'm like hurting my voice. I just start wailing and everyone's like, oh my God. I wonder that too. Like how people, even you on you on tour it's like how do you keep your voice yeah just tea and like you kind of have to like go on vocal rest which is I'm such a chatty I was gonna say how do you stop talking I can't

I mean just because I've seen you in so many interviews and you are such a chatter I love to talk I love to talk so it's really tough but like everyone will be like stop and I'll be like okay but they're like stop talking no I don't think I could do it yeah even now my voice is like chorus just because we did a podcast yesterday and I just talk so much I'm like how do singers do it when you're like belting and yeah have you ever had any vocal damage no not damage I mean I'm sure I like will lose my voice because like I have some songs where I just like scream so I'm like I've lost it for sure but nothing bad like nothing crazy fingers crossed I don't get like no what is it nodes people get oh yeah nodes and we just saw Donny Osmond last week he says

he got like nodules or something like he said something where like nodules yeah like mid performance he did Joseph and he said like the last song something just like busted his like he had to get like surgery on it and stuff like that and I was like Donny Osmond is he's still like he's amazing incredible he did Joseph with Andrew Lloyd Webber and that's like one of my all-time favorite he's going back in. He's my favorite. And so we just saw him last week in Vegas. Oh my god, amazing. I love him.

I just think. And he's literally the nicest person ever. So that's why I like. Yeah, he's kind of my him. Britney Spears. Yeah. I don't know. I love, again, just the old nostalgia.

When we send it to musical theater, that's my jam for sure. Yeah, yeah. But I can never sing. So I can never be in a play. You're theatrical, though. You have the theater-y. You're like a theater girl. I wish I was. I think I was the opposite of you where

the theater kids thought I was a loser so I like really get into it yeah the theater kids were not cool at my school absolutely not maybe it was like Glee brought made it cool or something like later on I don't know but I think Glee made it worse oh really yeah I loved Glee I loved Glee but it was like the thing that I would be like, like I'd watch it with my mom and people would be like, I don't watch Glee. That's just stupid. It's cringy. Yeah.

Like looking back now, it's like so cringe and like also so like racist and problematic. I'm like, how did this get on here? How was that on air? It's wild. I guess Ryan Murphy just being absolutely wild. Just doing it. Yeah. You mentioned your mom and dad a lot.

So you're like close with them. I'm close with my mom. My dad's a bit of like a weird, my dad's I have I'm like daddy issues girl for sure he's like yeah I don't really have a relationship with my dad but it's one of those things he's very like Frank from Shameless I would describe him as like oh okay yeah but like at the same time like when you watch Shameless you're like Frank's like funny and like as an adult I can appreciate like the things he would show me and like as like weird and crazy as he is I can appreciate like the things he would show me. And like as like weird and crazy as he is, I'd be like, you know, he would like taught me all this stuff about like music and all these different things. So, you know, you kind of get older and you start to like not resent your parents as much.

You like feel bad for them. But yeah. Yeah. He's he's weird. Do you talk to him now? Not really. Not really. He's kind of sick.

He like has like he's like on kidney dialysis. And he's like, yeah, but it's it's he's like he's like he's not a great guy but it's when you get older i feel like if you have issues with parents you kind of like grow out of that like fuck you i hate you like you're a bad dad like you kind of start to feel like empathy more yeah for like him and his life and his childhood so i don't really talk to him but i don't have like bad like will for him yeah it's just better separate yeah yeah i was like that too i had a daddy issues for sure i hadn't talked to him but I don't have like bad like will for him yeah it's just better separate yeah yeah I was like that too I had a daddy issues for sure I hadn't talked to him for like 10 years but then yeah then they get older too and you're just like okay they're getting older like you're gonna die

soon yeah you're like how many holidays do I have let's wrap this up like yeah merry Christmas happy birthday right because my dad's wife I definitely don't like what I like put up with I'm like all right I'm gonna see my dad you know it's like yeah but yeah sometimes it's better to just like you said be amicably apart yeah you know yeah he sounded like he was a cool guy that was showing you like snl and stuff like that yeah he was he was definitely he had such a strange personality he was very like rain man vibes he like knew everything about baseball and like celebrities and actors and this comedian and this person in 19 blah blah so i feel like he would like spitball these facts and I kind of like have retained a lot of it yeah the fact that you can just like spit out things it's like it is it's like you said very rain man like I'm like how do you like just pull

this knowledge like oh this happened and you got fired for this I was like wow it's amazing yeah you know it's good I like to know stuff you know it's good to know stuff especially but I'm the same way but it's also like with celebrities it's like I have so much useless knowledge I'm like why do I have this knowledge what's that gonna help it's not but I mean to me it's more useful than like math in my in my field you know yeah and it's more exciting I always thought that in school when we were learning math or science I'm like I'm never gonna use this like yeah I just want to learn about pop culture so where would you learn besides your dad would you be like reading tabloids were you watching reality shows like oh yeah my my sister I have a sister who's four years older and she was like the hills like she was like you know your classic teen girl

she had myspace and all this stuff that I was just a little bit too young for she would show me and show me like myspace artist and she would show me just all kind of different things in that world and would be like oh my god Lauren Conrad is the queen and like all this stuff and like she kind of like introduced me to like the OC and like all these things and i feel like it made me really love like hollywood culture and like you're drawn to california yeah what you saw on tv i was very much the same way watching like girls next door or something you're just like i want to be that you know i want to be blonde i want to be like on the beach yeah or bay watch or any of those things yeah that's pretty crazy and then when you moved out by yourself you moved straight to beverly hills It's quarantine time. So you can't really like do much.

Are you like a party girl now? Can you like live it up now because you couldn't back then? Yeah, definitely. I feel like I've had my party phases here and there. I go through like sober phases and party phases. But I feel like now, yeah, I just love nightlife. Nightlife is fun. I feel like I'll get to a point where I'm like done drinking probably for good.

But I just I love a good party. I love a good after party. Oh, what's the after party? So you like go to better than the party itself sometimes. Really? Yeah. What happens? Even as a young person, I never went out like I just never.

I didn't know where these parties were. Really? What is like where? How do you get the invite? What happens? It's always like someone who knows someone is like, oh, like, like you'll be at like the main party. And then if you're like annoying like me, you'll like sniff around like, wait, where's

everyone going after this? Like blah, blah, blah. be at, like, the main party. And then if you're, like, annoying like me, you'll, like, sniff around. Like, wait, where's everyone going after this? Like, blah, blah, blah. Oh, so you ask around. Yeah. And then you end up just, like, smoking cigarettes in someone's kitchen until, like, 9 in the morning. And it's never good. It's never that fun. But I love it.

Kind of sounds fun. It kind of sounds like a vibe. Just, I know cigarettes, not to promote it, but I know they're coming back now. Everyone's smoking them. Yeah. Is this the new trend? Vaping's out? Everyone's like, vaping's bad for you.

Smoke cigs. Do you think it's, I wonder, someone said that. They said vaping is worse than cigarettes i kind of agree in a way like with cigarettes you know you like we've known for a long time like you know what you're putting in your body but with vapes it's like i feel like in like 20 years like when you when people will see the actual effects of what doing that at a young age is done everyone's gonna be like oh because there's like chemical i don't even get it but there's like chemicals in it or something like that yeah anything that's like this tastes like fruit juice and it gives me a buzz like that's going to be like, oh, because there's like chemical. I don't even get it. But there's like chemicals in it or something like that. Yeah. Anything that's like this tastes like fruit juice and it gives me a buzz like that's not

going to be. Yeah. It's like, what is it actually? Seriously. Oh, that sounds fun. And so with the album Starfucker, are you a starfucker? Um, in ways I think we all are. Yeah.

Wait, I wish. I wish I could have been. I feel like I didn't get access to the stars. I feel like you don't even have to have sex with a celebrity to, like, be a star fucker in a way. I thought that's what it was. Well, it is in a way. I, this is, like, I guess this, I don't know if I've said this before, but, like, I named it that because, like, an ex-boyfriend of mine who, like, was a star fucker. Oh, he was the, oh.

Who, like, I always was, like, I remember one of our last, like, phone calls we had as a joke. I was, like, and you're such a star fucker. And he was, like, don't flatter yourself. Like, you're, like, no star. And I was, like. Oh, my as a joke, I was like, and you're such a star and he was like, don't flatter yourself. Like you're like no star. And I was like, Oh my God. Right. I was like,

but yeah, like I, I feel like I've met people who it's like, they, they keep like proximity to like children of famous people or like just all these random people. And it's like almost calculated in a way where it's like, you know,

they're like, Oh yeah. Like blah, blah, blah is like does this, or that's like that person's kid. And it like I don't know like I'm from such a foreign like midwest world where like I didn't grow up with famous people I didn't grow up with you know that in my backyard so it's just yeah it's exciting for people for sure but I think

also just being in entertainment like going to these parties like you meet certain celebrities and you're like you are like not that cool really like you're like not very nice and like the like bubble people like think celebrity it's just this magical thing and everyone's so cool and i don't know like it's not all it's cracked up to be sometimes you get disappointed by it for sure yeah i feel like i know you see some i feel like the a-list ones are always like super nice like i feel like the quentin tarantino's like eminem they're super cool but then you mean like the d-list ones and they're the ones that are kind of like more rowdy like Andy Dick or something you know I hear glam people talk about this a lot where it's like the smaller the star the bigger the diva yes always and yes

and glam they know because they work with everyone you know so they're like yeah they're yeah usually I guess it's just to make up for something yeah because the big ones are always like so nice I feel yeah you know you know I hear stories about like Kim Kardashian how she like remembers everyone's name and she's very personable and like kind to her whole team and it's always like yeah I guess it's just like I don't know the ones that like want to feel more important or something you get like a little taste of like a little bit of fame and it like it makes the brain go crazy yeah I know it really does you get close to someone and they're like oh this is so exciting are you do you like the fame aspect because you're actually talented do you just like making art or do you care about the fame or the

money what makes your kitty go purr what makes my drugs I care about the drugs and alcohol yeah I honestly I feel like I love making art I would be making music if I didn't have a social media platform I started without one so it's like like, I just, I love to create, I love making stuff, people paying attention. It's always nice, you know, to like get a career kind of going and to reach certain accolades and making money. But like at the end of the day, like I would be happy, like living in like a cabin in Missouri, like making songs in a closet still like living by the river. Like, you know, really, you really think, do you think you'll ever go back go back one day and do that yeah I don't know if I'd move back to St. Louis because I'm from like the suburbs I would love to like move somewhere like kind of like rural and like really like be alone you know oh so you're like so that's interesting because you're a party girl

yeah and you're out there but you like to be alone yeah yeah so would you say you're like an extroverted introvert definitely interesting so Interesting. So you like value your alone time? Yes. Do you live alone? So much so. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So you can, I loved living alone too for like, well, until I didn't, then I was like, I'm lonely. But for like 15 years I lived alone. I like loved it. That's interesting. So when you're alone and you're not writing music, what are you doing? Having like a mental breakdown of some sort, probably. So relatable.

Probably. Being alone is good though. It helps the art. Like I feel like if I'm around people all the time, I don't have those really like depressive moments where I can make something like poignant and thoughtful and like put it in music about like certain things. You know what I mean? Like it takes, it takes like kind of like feeling alone to like have the drive to be

like, oh, that's when I get like my best ideas is like being alone for like you know consecutive days because your music too like like you know most people draw inspiration from like heartache or something like that but because yours is so like Hollywood centric erotic hypersexual like where does it come from is that really you or do you think it's like a character like Slater's a version of you I mean I feel like it's a heightened version of myself like I I feel like all my music is pretty tongue-in-cheek about stuff but like at the same time you know any party or event I go to like I'm always like the drunkest one there yeah so that's you kind of yeah like I'm always like the one getting in trouble so I feel like for some people it kind of is like a persona but like I

definitely like like I get down you embody it a little bit yeah for sure but you know I don't know I also feel like I'm a little more like sad girl than my music would, people would believe, you know? Really? Like you as a person? Yeah, for sure. Like I feel like I can like get emo and listen to some like old, like sad country music, but like no one would like think of me in that way.

Cause my music's like drugs, Molly, you know? They're like, you should do because country's very in again with like beyonce doing like covers of jolene and you like this is the second time i've seen you kind of country dress because on mani morpheus's you're kind of well you were knowing there yeah yeah but this is the same vibe so would you ever completely change genres like that i don't know i don't know if i'd completely change genres but i would i would definitely do like a country ballad like like an old like old school like Loretta Lynn like type of song on an album but it would be like mixed in

with like club music you know yeah just do like every genre because you said sad like you can have like a little bit of sadness and you could do like a little emo yeah emo moments oh my god could you write different genres do you think I think so I think that writing a good song is really just about what you're feeling like how you kind of put feelings you're having into like the context of a song it could be any genre or anything but it's like if what you're saying people connect to it like I think that makes a good song well because you've been writing songs since how how old were you when you started oh I mean I've been writing songs I got like a guitar for Christmas one year when I was young and I would like try to write songs then songs I got like a guitar for Christmas one year when I was young and I would like try to write songs then but I feel like probably like 2016 is when I was

taking it like a little more serious and like that's when I dropped I like dropped out of college to like try to do music and I went home and I was a waitress and I worked at a hair salon all this stuff and that whole time I was like writing songs and like working on like Slater as like a internet I was kind of like an e-girl like I was like a songs and like working on like Slater as like a internet. I was kind of like an e-girl. Like I was like a hoe. Like I wasn't. Really?

It didn't start as music. I was like doing camming and I was doing like Fyndom and all this random stuff. And like my day jobs on the side. And I would like use the money to like buy beats from producers and like make visuals and stuff. Wow. Yeah. I kind of knew a little bit about this because I know I read something that you said like people weren't like respecting you after doing like sex work yeah did you find that to be true now still or do you think people kind of it's in the past because you bring it up a lot

which I think is admirable like I like to talk about my stuff yeah yeah for sure I I don't know it it when I first started in music I was probably like 22 and having been a cam girl and being like vocal about that or being like oh yeah like I like I did like sex work, this and that. There's like men in the industry, like some like really weird, I was just treated very weird by like people, like it's a very predatory industry and like, I'm not trying to like whistleblow or like whatever about stuff, but I feel like I was like treated like inappropriately almost compared to someone who would get into music and be like, oh, like I'm a singer songwriter and I make really like deep music and I play guitar like because I was so brash my songs were

about like my like f***ing and like really like horny stuff like these men would like sit in these rooms with me and they'd kind of just be like it was creepy like you know what I mean interesting yeah and so would you go to these by yourself or would you go with like a manager because I wonder if it makes a difference if you're with a guy versus you by yourself I would go with a manager and so people would never like in like meetings and things they would never do too much but I could always just like tell I would get like dms from people after having said meetings and they'd be like saying inappropriate stuff or like what someone wanted to be like a fin dom sub for me and I was like they were like worked at a label and I was like

you like no ma'am. Like I thought this was, we were doing business here. Like what is going on? But yeah. Yeah. And you never want like, okay. They've since been like canceled and fired.

So like, I don't, I didn't even have to say anything. It was like other people were like, he did this to me too. And I was like, yeah. Yeah.

And I know I always wait for those moments, not wait for it, but like, yeah. People who've like done me wrong in the past. I like wait for a couple other people to say, and then I could like tell my story story too because you never I admire the people who do that first but I can I never want to be the first no you know because it's just like

scary you don't know how it's scary and like I feel like it kind of sets you up you don't want to be I don't ever want to be known for like that kind of stuff like I would rather just keep it to myself and where there's smoke there's fire and things you know things see the light at the end of the day right do you ever feel like you're like well this is my image this is my brand it's to be expected yeah sometimes which is like the word it's like you shouldn't feel that way but i always think that too with me i'm like well i did do it i guess people think they should just make it thinner inappropriate jokes because you did this it's like what's so wrong with doing it either it's like that's i really feel like that at the core is like people are just so judgmental. But it's at the end of the day, it's like, so what?

Like, yeah, like I posted my boobs. Right. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What are we going to do? Like, right.

So not that big of a deal. Really, you know, like you can have multiple sides as like a human or even like Sasha Gray. She's like one of my favorite porn stars ever. Such a smart, intelligent person was like iconic, like so cool. And like it's like, yeah, like it doesn't. Such a smart, intelligent person. Was like iconic. Like so cool. And like it's like, yeah, like it doesn't matter, you know? Like I don't know. The big porn stars too, they're so about it just being work. You know what I mean?

And then they do these mainstream things. They have their clothing lines. Like Riley Reid. All these people. They're like really smart. And it's like Lana Rhodes. You know, they do their like podcast. They do all this stuff.

And I'm like, I think people definitely underestimate people who do sex work. They think it's just like, like you said, but it's such a business. And to make like the money you make off of it is like really, were you making good money? Yeah. Was it hard to like leave? It kind of was. At the same time, I feel like I wanted to just like fully like thrust into music. And like my mom, I was like living with my mom and like doing this stuff in my bedroom.

And like she did not like know. Yeah, yeah. mom I was like living with my mom and like doing this stuff in my bedroom and like she did not like know yeah yeah so there was like a bit yeah it was like a weird dynamic of that where I was like okay I should probably stop but you know for like a girl that works like uh like minimum wage like hair salon job like that side money was like crucial to me starting music you know what I mean so it's yeah like I don't know people can judge but like it's like I don't know born hustler sorry you know like, it's like, I don't know. Born hustler. Sorry. Same. Same. I was like 32 when I was like, I'm going to get into some porn or something. Like, I was like, you know, I did it for six months.

Like, it's kind of fun. And yeah, like you kind of do what you like, you know, if you, especially music is so expensive. And if you're like starting self-funding it, like you have to find ways to make it happen. Yeah. And I feel like that's, to me, that's admirable. I don't know. Yeah. I always was like tempted, not tempted, but like you always hear about casting couch situations.

I never actually was in those situations. But I always thought, would I do that? Because I was so hypersexual in my 20s and I actually liked it. I was like, I probably would have done it. I guess it depends. If it's like Harvey Weinstein versus like a hot director like Eli Roth or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, definitely.

Well, and also it's like when you're young, like, I don't know, there were definitely A&Rs who would reach out and then they would meet with just me directly sometimes. And it would like almost feel like it was like some kind of weird date. Like I'd be like, this isn't, are you reaching out to me for my music? Or is it because you see my like titty pics online? And like, this is like, so it gets weird around there. But like, also, I don't know. I always liked the attention, like daddy issues.

I was like, okay, like call me pretty. I don't care. We'll figure it out. Because you always hear like there was a success to it. They're like, Oh, you only got it from sleeping with the director. I was like, I mean, if it's, you can do both, you know, if it's like a hot someone you're into, I don't know. Maybe that's like the wrong message to send, but I always was like intrigued by it just because of movies. Like you said, there's just certain movies and you're just like, it seems glamorous. You know what I mean?

Unless it's like Harvey Weinstein and it's not glamorous. You're like, please don't touch my boobs. Not so glamorous. No, not so glamorous. Who is someone that you've been like, have you met anyone that you're like starstruck by where you like can't talk? Oh, that's like a good question. I, oh yeah. Oh man. Can you say it? We can bleep it to her if you don't want to say the name.

I'm such a jackass. I was really, I went, I got invited to like a Stella McCartney event and, um, you know, her father, Paul McCartney. So I saw him and he's like, he's at this event and it was like a very, this was like the most star studded thing I had been invited to. It was like some like Adidas Stella McCartney thing. And, um, like the people who invited me, like, thank you so much. Like it was so great.

But like, once again, like I was like, got sauced, like the drunkest person in the room. I was going around. I was like, John Mayer's here. Like I like couldn't, I've like, you know, like it was so great but like once again like I was like got sauced like the drunkest person in the room I was going around I was like John Mayer's here like I like couldn't I've like you know like it gags me like I'm not gonna like sit there and be like yeah like I don't care about anyone like this it was like cool you're like yeah and I saw Paul McCartney was like sitting with his family and I was like I'm gonna go say something like I'm gonna go I can't if I don't say it now like I'll never like I'll have never said hi like and he's like a beetle like that would be just so cool I'll keep it brief and I walk up and it now, like I'll never, like I'll have never said hi. Like, and he's like a beetle. Like that would be just so cool. I'll keep it brief.

And I walk up and I was just like, you're such a good dad. Oh, like what a weird thing to say. I don't know why I said that. I kind of live for that though. Yeah. I was just like, you're so cool. And I was like, I love you. I love your music.

And like, I think his wife was sitting next to him and she saw someone behind me with like a camera. Cause they were like taking a picture and she was like, no pictures, no pictures. And I was like, I just was like, thank you. I love you. Bye. And I like because they were like taking a picture and she was like no pictures no pictures and I was like I just was like thank you I love you bye and I like left did you get a picture then no well I mean yeah was it you were you taking the picture I live for that I'm the same way I usually get embarrassed like he'll be always like filming and I'm like stop filming stop filming but then after I'm like so grateful because you have like a picture yeah because it's just like the moment of. And someone like Paul McCartney, like.

He's one of the most legendary people still living. Wow. Did he say anything back to you? Yeah, he was really nice. He was really nice. And I was just, like, gooped. Like, I was, like, because, you know, like, I don't know. Like, he's just a legend.

So he was really nice. I kept it so brief. Like, I know when it's, like, you keep it to, like, a 15-second interaction. And he was, like, oh, thank you so much. Really? Yeah, he was, like, thank you. That's very nice of you. Wow. kept it so brief like i know when it's like you keep it to like a 15 second interaction and he's like oh thank you so much really yeah he's like thank you that's very nice of you wow that's good at least he didn't give like a shut off or something you know he like acknowledged you yeah i got to like hear his voice which was cool his accent oh thank you so much that was so good too the liverpool accent uh were you a beatles fan yes yes i loved the beatles like old music

from 60s too i grew up my mom was super into the Beatles, loved the Beach Boys. She loved Michael Jackson. She was a huge Elton John fan. I feel like Elton John was like a big kind of like idol in my life before I got to like the Gagas and the Britneys that inspired my music. Yeah, I loved Elton John. The costumes and the sunglasses and he was like, I just, I love, yeah, I love Elton John. He was, I didn't know much about him and then I saw the movie and I was like, oh, the costumes are cool. I didn't know he dressed like i just i love yeah i love elton john he was i didn't know much about him and then i saw the movie and i was like oh the costumes are cool i didn't know he

dressed like that in the 70s i was like that's pretty cool he was like the rhinestone king which i know you love rhinestoning that's like my side hobby i'm like a bling girl wait really yeah i rhinestone a lot of props in my music and stuff i'd like rhinestone like a whole human heart i've rhinestone like a gun like i love and you do it yourself how long does it take to like rhinestone something? A lot. It takes a while. I'll usually put a movie on. It's like multiple days of like many hours of like gluing and you know you get like the wax tip pen and you do it blah blah blah. Oh my god. I would never have the patience to do that. Yeah. We have a huge tiger upstairs that's like blinged out and it took like literally three months for someone to bling it. Oh my god. It's great. I love every I wish I could bling our whole house like our

refrigerator. Do you bling like stuff in your apartment sometimes like i have like it's mostly props i've never done anything that's like too big or crazy i've done like costumes before like i when i first started i was like rhinestoning like my stage costumes that i would wear yeah oh my god yeah elton john and you are like right up there the glasses you wore on the maddie interview were those oh yeah did you do them no those were like gucci yeah yeah because i came up i was like oh those look so good thank you you did the Maddie interview where those. Oh, yeah. Did you do them? No, those were like Gucci. Yeah, yeah. Because I was looking them up. I was like, oh, those look so good. Thank you.

You did the Nomi Malone. Even your nails today give me like Nomi Malone vibes. Yeah, oh my gosh. And that's my favorite movie. Maddie! I love that movie. Oh, I love your nails. Maybe you could do mine sometime.

I was like, on second thought, I'm getting too old for the whore look. That whore look. Speaking of whore trashy. That is actually like, I feel like Showgirls is so funny because it's like everyone, it's like known as like a bad movie, like a B b movie but it is so the music industry to a t like the way girls are with each other and the whole like darlin and like they're friends at first and then like the whole like pushing down the stairs like i'm like that is so music like oh yeah you know what i mean like it's it's so oh it's so funny it's always someone

younger coming up those stairs yeah younger and hungrier coming up those stairs darling and she's like and she gets it you know at the end of the movie drinkers like i love that movie more than anything and then when i saw ariana redo it because i read we redid it for my maternity pictures i had to be kind of a clock lid and i wanted to be you know me but then i saw ariana redoing it with liz gillett that's like oh that's so iconic that everyone's like loving this movie again that like gagged me too because like they it was like the settings like i don't know what green screen they did, but it looked like actual from the movie. Like it was so crazy.

She like turns out the Halloween costumes. Oh yeah. They go. The best in show. Yeah. So good. And like you said, they're kind of like old, they're like old references. So I love that the show girls is like people who haven't seen it, especially the uncensored.

I used to watch it censored on VH1 where they wouldn't show like the pool scene, but you watch it uncensored. To me, that's still like one of the hottest most erotic things to me I love it I just love stuff like that it was back during a time I feel like movies had a lot of eroticism like threaded in it and it like

looking back people are like oh my god that was so tacky or like you know body double so tacky like how like but it's like it was like that was the thing oh yeah it was everything and just her doing like the lap dance and just being crazy with it just like i mean it was the most wild thing ever and i was like and i wanted to become a stripper because of that movie i was like i'm gonna be that you know like it's fierce yes it's so fierce it still is i mean that whole thing so when i saw you dress like her and then the nails i was like that's do

you do your own nails do you bling them these are from amazon no wait are they press on yeah they're press-ons oh my god i just typed in like jesus cross nails no wait jesus oh is it jesus on there yeah there's like a cross i don't know if it's jesus there's angel angel i need to get that because i like the press-ons too yeah i can't commit to like acrylics all the time i feel like i like i need like dexterity of my hands oh same i used to be an acrylic early and i just cannot do it anymore but i do love a good press-on yeah you went went to Catholic school, right? I did. Oh my God. So what was that like? That was pretty crazy. I went, um, like kindergarten through eighth grade. And then I went to a public high school cause like my family, we were like on, um, what do you call

it? Like financial support. Like the priest at our school was like, we couldn't afford tuition, but he like let us go. Cause like, it was like's like i like like my mom wanted us to have a catholic education so they like did us a favor but it was like yeah it was it was weird because it was like all my classmates like were from really wealthy families like and i wasn't and i lived down the street from this golf course like or that they all like belong to this country club and like i didn't and i was just like i was like not cool in middle school really i loved lady gaga they all i just was very they were all super preppy kids and i just felt like i was like a bit of like a freakier lady i thought it wasn't cool i don't know that's again we're like a decade apart so i didn't know

i thought lady gaga was cool but she wasn't like she wasn't cool like everyone in my class was like she's a freak like blah blah blah like demonic or something back then maybe yeah but to me she was like magical like i just loved her and how would they know you liked her because I saw pictures of you younger and you kind of looked like just kind of normal just like a normal kid I mean yeah I wasn't like edgy or anything but I just would like talk about music I also in middle school because everyone like didn't like me like I felt the need to be like I was really like insufferable about like music and what I was listening to and I was like you know into like vampire weekend and like all these like indie

bands and like all this stuff and yeah I was just like annoying you're like playing the part you're like I'm gonna be an outcast let me show you how outcast I can be exactly yeah exactly yeah okay that makes sense okay so that's interesting so they knew you weren't from a wealthy family so they're just like oh we don't like you or something not even like that I just didn't fit in very well because of it and like there were like girls who were cool and then there was like a group of girls who were not so cool and I just didn't fit in very well because of it. And like there were like girls who were cool. And then there was like a group of girls who were not so cool. And I just didn't really click with anyone. So I kind of just did my own thing overall.

But then public school was great. I like met like a gay person for the first time. And I was like rock on. Life changing. Yeah. Life changing. Yeah. Like you like Lady Gaga me too.

Yeah. That's the best. My first gay person I met was 18 when I was in LA. And I was like this is everything. Yeah. Like nobody was out in our school. But I like I definitely was friends with the kids that were definitely gay but they just like yeah and I yeah when you meet your first gay person it's very exciting it's very exciting I feel like I found my like my people like my common ground because my

my catholic school that I went to my class was like 20 people like it was so small so so so small we had all known each other our whole lives growing up together and um everyone would went on to go to like the catholic high schools and i went to this public school that had a really good music program and it all like it ended up being fine and like you know finding your people in your school i think that's like so important yeah because when you have you're not around people that are like like you were like but 20 people i mean what are the chances you're gonna find someone that like is like yeah exactly especially because you're so like different did you always know that you were like different yeah yeah I always felt different and I always like I loved music so much and I always knew that I wanted to like I wanted to like be a movie star I wanted to be like in music like

I wanted to do all these things and I feel like people in my class would not have the same like they just they'd be like I want to be a nurse or like I want to be a doctor and I just was like that life of staying in St. Louis it just wasn't for me like I wanted to go to New York City and all this stuff and you know be like the movies yeah yeah did you ever try New York first did you ever try it at all no I've been to New York a lot in my like time of doing music but I feel like um I kind of just ended up moving to LA first more there's more music producers here the scene is a little bit more here yeah I guess New York is maybe I don't know fashion theater it's like cooler there's like a music scene there but it's just not it's not the same there's not like as many producers to like be working with constantly out there but um I know a

bunch of people who live out there that make music and they're they're sick and like you know New York is always like so cool and everyone's kind of like early on trends and stuff but um I don't know if like a busy busy city like that is my vibe well you could walk everywhere you don't drive so I was like I guess New York but you're in a good spot in LA where you can like walk it's so interesting and so do you think y'all the driving is interesting you're like I don't drive and you and that's just because you just like are don't want to learn yeah I'm just like I know I never have needed to so far. And like Uber became a thing. Like my friends all got their licenses first. So like I never needed to in high school. Right. And my mom would always be like, you need to like get your permit, get your license. And then, yeah, I'm just like, I've tried to get behind the wheel and it would

just like end with like a panic attack and me being like, mom, like you need to get, get, get in the car. Like I can't, I can't, like you need to drive. It's a lot. Driving can be a lot for sure. I just like tone back on it. When you said before, you're like, if you're not making music, like, you'll be having mental breakdowns. Do you actually have, like, breakdowns? Do you get anxiety for real? Oh, yeah. You do.

I get really freaked out about, like, life and music. And honestly, just, like, being perceived. Like, I go back and forth of being, like, I wish I could just, like, delete all my social media and, like, disappear. Like, I don't like people, like, talking about me or about me or like you know but it's just a part of it and like I have a thick skin so it's not even like mean comments that like set me off it's more just like people having ideas of like who I am or like what I'm like as a person that is like bad and it like weirds me out and it gets like I'm like this is dystopian that you think I am we have this parasocial relationship like you don't know me like what it's like it'm like this is dystopian that you think I am we have this parasocial

relationship like you don't know me like but it's like it's too much do you respond to anyone ever and like try to correct people like this is not it that's not wrong you have some sometimes and then my manager's like girl like get out of the get out of these fans dms like what are you doing like privately you don't even do it publicly you're like I'll be like what you say it's not even true because blah blah blah and like it's like, it's, yeah, I don't know. What's like the craziest speculation fans have had about you? Um, I don't know. I feel like people just think I'm like a bad person or that I like am, I don't know what the deal is.

It's just, you know, like fans, like fan drama, like fans of other artists, like they always like are putting people against each other that don't even like have beef, but it's like, it'll be like other fans, like fandoms, I guess. Right. Yeah. Just sometimes people talking about like my character, like, you know, I got canceled for like whatever. They just think I'm like a bad person. That's so weird because everything I research about you, I feel like there's so much just

love. I didn't see any craziness. Well, see, now I'm like, I won't have a mental breakdown. Yeah. No, everyone like really loves you. And I've seen like what you're saying with the fandoms like the kim petra stuff because just the similar vibes but it's just like i think that's just like fans in general we just talked about that's been going on for years and years and years really yeah there's like i mean there's like there's always always when there's like female artists there's

like fans of each artist that like they have like beef with each other like Lady Gaga Madonna or like you know what I mean like there's always like that kind of um I don't know they just recently do you see the Dua Lipa fan show up to the Nicki Minaj fans house no it's crazy my co-host just told me about this yesterday Stan Twitter there's these you know Stan Twitter there's like a Stan Twitter person that's like this is my house come at me and so one of the barbs flew to the house oh my god don't fuck with the barbs. Yeah. I didn't even know Dua Lipa and Nicki were, like, beefy. I didn't know there was beef. But the fans went crazy.

And they were recording it. It was two gay guys. And they're, like, recording each other. And I think the police ended up showing up to the person who, like, was trespassing and got them out or something. But, yeah, I was like, wow, people really go. These stans just get gnarly with each other. It reminds me of that video. I forget, like, who it was about.

But it was like, do you remember that? Like, it's, like, these two gay guys. And he's like, girl, you who it was about but it was like do you remember that like it's like these two gay guys and he's like girl you stan Zara Larson like do you remember that video no they just like fight they like fight in lines outside of concerts it's like crazy that's so random I know like it's yeah that's so funny I think it's fun I think that the stand up stands are cool like especially stand twitter they're so hardcore because they will like your stand twitter goes so hard and they have your picture as their profile and it's always really nice like i said like i just saw your app over and over just like throughout the past like year and i was like wow it's so crazy i love that they got me here well i didn't even realize like i knew you had like a new album out and stuff like that but i just didn't even realize like the impact you have

on people they just go so hard for you thank you yeah. Yeah. It's like, I feel like I'm like, I'm like the showgirls movie of pop stars. Yes. Small but mighty. Like, not for everyone, but the cult following is there. Yes, for sure. I got this moment here. Would you ever do like a Vegas show? Oh, I would love to.

Ooh. Like, do you remember Peep Show? Yeah. Holly did it and then Coco did it. I think Audre Lorde did it. Where it's like topless and singing. Would you ever do that? Absolutely.

Because that would be so cool. After I get my boobs done. Yeah. After I get the Brady Rabon, the Brady Raboners. What's his name? Brady Rabon? I got it. I really, I actually really want to go with it.

You said he was expensive though, right? He is. He's like. 20,000? Yeah. It's like, it's like a bougie. It's a bougie boob job, but it's, he like specializes in like lift and implant, not just implant.

Cause if you're like flat chested and you need like implants, that's like not that expensive. Right. But I have boobs, but I want like the lift and implant not just implant because if you're like flat chested and you need like implants that's like not that expensive right but i have boobs but i want like the lift and implant they're the saggy things i don't mind a saggy boob for minor sagging i've had the implants like three or four times but really i've had a lift so many times i might just keep falling i don't know damn and then at that point it's like so what even like why even spend the money you just have to keep doing it i guess i don't know mine keep getting sick they'll go nice for like a year and then they go whatever you know what i mean yeah but yeah then you could do your i think if you got a vegas show or vegas residency then you probably do it you know what i mean yeah i would love that people would pay to go see it and then you know you'd

make the money back it's like an investment yeah you just make it back i would love a residency i would like sing all jazzy that would be so sick that would be so cool yeah i love your voice on like trouble in paradise where you can like really hear your like voice. Because I love like, I of course love like the popness of it all. But when you can hear your voice, it's so nice. Thank you. I love singing. I've always loved singing.

Do you sing? Are you one of those people who just sings like around the house? Yeah, which is bad. I feel like my neighbors can hear me. Really? Yeah. I live in one of those old buildings. Like all the windows, you can hear, like my neighbor coughs and I can like hear them.

Oh, so they're really hearing you sing. So when I like sing or like I'm doing whatever, like I know they can hear it. I'm like, oh, like, I don't know. Like, sorry. Or like, you're welcome. Like, I don't know. No, I was going to say it's like a free show. They're like, we get to hear you every single night, which is great.

Do you ever do karaoke? Oh, yeah. I just did karaoke a couple nights ago. Where do you go? K-Town? Max's karaoke studio. It's in like Little Tokyo. Wait, what?

Yeah, it's like in a mall and you go up and it's like that one's really fun there's like better karaoke places I think in LA but I went to that one it's like a room with your friends yeah you do like the room and you can like order like sake and like do you know pick your songs and how many people you go with um I think I went with like 10 people last time yeah I think I've only gone to those ones but it's like me and one other person so we're just like singing for each other. We've done that before. We went to a place in Vegas and it was just me and her like passing the mic off.

And I was so annoyed. I do like Celine Dion and she'd be like, how am I supposed to go after like that? And I'd be like, I don't know. It's cute. You're like, try.

Are you a good singer? No. Oh, I answer for him like, no, she's not. What's your go-to karaoke song? Probably like La La Land by Demi Lovato.

Oh my God. We have a Demi. Okay, yeah, right. So you did Celine Dion. Yeah. I'm like All By Myself by Celine Dion. Wow. That is my fave.

Or like Mariah Carey. Wait, really? What song do you sing by Mariah? Like We Belong Together is a great karaoke one. That's such a hard song, I feel. Yeah. I love, I I'm like a late Mariah Stan I'm like really into her now and I was like I yeah late to the trend she's got hits like hits on hits so good I love the movie glitter too I thought that was like such a good movie that oh yeah I just love her voice it's everything can you do impressions um some yeah it depends on the artist but because I heard you do Britney

yeah which is like so I think it was on Grindr I think they interviewed you and you did Every Time which is my favorite Britney song I did a cover of it put on iTunes I was like I love that cover of Every Time too you did is it out I took it off of Spotify because people were like clowning me for it because it wasn't you know how covers are supposed to be like you're you make it your own I did it like verbatim the exact I was like singing along to her track like in the studio they just take her voice out I did like every vocal inflection she does I just like you can't like mess with that song so I was like I'm gonna do it no don't make it your own yeah yeah when you were singing on Grindr I was just like so good your Britney impression is like my favorite oh I just love it so much thank you yeah I do I hate doing them on the spot I feel like I get

like I know I want to do the same but I won't but I always ask people will you sing it I'm like nah I can't I feel like it'll I'll the spot. I know, I want you to sing, but I won't. But I always ask people, will you sing it? I'm like, nah, I can't. I feel like I'll do it bad, and then I'll be like, wait, wait, wait, no. Like the beginning. Right. I know. Well, when I have singers on, I always feel bad, because I'm like, I know you have to practice and rehearse. But the beginning of it, where it's like, notice me.

Oh, yeah. Take my hand. I'll do it all day long. I'm like, every time I try. I love it. I just think she's so pretty that song it's such a beautiful song you know the movie Spring Breakers too I have not seen that I've seen it everywhere I know you would love it I love Vanessa Hudgens I love Selena Gomez and I'm like

wait I've never seen this it's really iconic it's like Harmony Corrine who's like pretty like badass like indie boy director but I mean obviously he's like older now but he did like kids you know do you remember that movie kids like Chloe Sevigny oh it was like that really like dark like movie about like kids in New York like doing drugs and stuff yes there was a girl actress she's like a Filipina actress her name's Tiffany something she's friends with Quentin Tarantino she was in it too yeah yeah yeah I love I remember that movie that's really niche he did he did um Spring Breakers and it's so like his wife Rachel Corrine is she's the girl with the pink hair in the movie

okay like idol like I want to dye my hair pink because of her like I love it but you were pink I was I know I want to go back I want to like commit and do like pink pink a lot of stuff on your hair a lot of damage I know but at this point I'll be bald so I'm like I need to your hair looks good now but I like pink yeah but it's like there's a scene and it's like James Franco's playing this like big white grand piano and it's shot in St. Petersburg Florida and they all have like AK-47s and every time by Britney they're like play us something

sweet and he plays every time by Britney and they dance with AKs in front of the sunset iconic scene I never heard of that director before yeah he's pretty cool he also did Beach Bum with Matthew McConaughey he's like I feel like he did like Brown Bunny I'm pretty sure that director before. Yeah, he's pretty cool. He also did Beach Bum with Matthew McConaughey. He's like, I feel like he did like Brown Bunny. I'm pretty sure that's like this movie, like Chloe Sevigny. It's like he does really like art housey, but like it's like, I don't know.

His style is very like, it's like punk. It's like he does like crazy shit in his movies. I haven't seen any. I've seen kids like a long time ago, but I haven't seen another chef. I gotta check it out. He has a movie where there's a scene where I think Chloe Sevigny year like sucks someone but it's like real it wasn't like fake for the movie really the movie yeah oh my god it's like soft core a little bit like it's kind of hardcore yeah but his i don't know his film style is just so it's like raw and real and like

dark like kids was like so or he did gummo too yeah he directed gummo i haven't seen that either oh my god i feel like i don't know anything compared to you i'll send you a list of some of these because they're crazy gummo's really wild have you ever seen those pictures like on tumblr it's like the boy with like the bunny hat or like the boy with the bunny hat like kissing chloe 70 in the pool no i don't think i've seen that one it's from gummo it's a weird movie i miss the tumblr era were you a tumblr girl loved tumblr really i'm back on it right now i just got a tumblr the other day it's still on yeah what are people posting now you'll be surprised like i feel like there's like a whole subculture there like everyone has one right now but no one's really like talking about it but

is it still like the old tumblr where they're just posting like cool aesthetic pictures yeah yeah like this go girl era there's a lot of like people who like post cool and i've kind of like gotten back on it feels like a free space like it's not like twitter instagram i can be like had the worst day like i want to die and like that like just goes into it's like art yeah it goes on to tumblr like no one says anything is that your favorite social media right now yeah because i know you're not like too big into like tiktok and stuff you're kind of like anti-tiktok a little bit not even anti i don't like hearing my speaking voice so much i can't imagine like i can't i never like can like sit down and like film myself

like talking there's like something about that i get really like shy what shy about it because you do a lot of podcasts and you're so good at them yeah i feel like it's not i don't have to like we're having a conversation almost i'm not even like talking to camera yeah like when people even when people tell silly little stories we're like guys like today i went to this like i can't like do that really yeah i would feel like your stories would be so good and so iconic too maybe I should start though maybe today I'll go home and do one yeah do like a little story time I mean there is something cool too about like the like mystique like the mystery around you you know what I mean even through your interviews it's like people don't know too much about like you as a person your

day-to-day your love life you know for sure I like to keep a little mystique yeah that's what I was trying to think I was like mystique yeah because you don't like your love life like your last boyfriend you like don't post about yeah no you just keep all that private keep it all private do you think you always will you think you'll ever be maybe if I like got married I'd like post it would you okay so then you'd be like okay but I don't know if I would post someone like beforehand or I don't know if we were if I was seriously dating someone I would probably post it but I just I don't know it gets weird like people sometimes will like come into your life like for that like wanting to be posted and that's like a weird dynamic where I'm like yeah you know the clout of it yeah do you date mostly guys your age or older mostly my age okay I feel like I need to go older I feel like I'm over the like yeah the 27 26

somethings. Like it's Yeah, yeah, 20 year old. I never dated 20 year olds. But it seems like a wild pool to date in. But you're just like you said, you said you're an old soul. So I just would assume especially with the daddy issues of it all. I was like, I always dated people like 40s, 50s, 60s when I was like 18. You know what I mean? I never dated anyone 20s or 30s. Wow. But maybe I need to switch it up. No, I think not not I think sometimes those are like oh yeah it's the ick of it all but um interesting would you ever do you find yourself dating normal people or do you find yourself more attracted like artsy type like entertainment

people usually like art like people that are in music a little bit like I like someone that can like speak my language about like music and movies a little bit I think it's I don't know if I could like get down with like a finance bro or something yeah yeah salesman accountant yeah like that I feel like our brain but maybe because I'm so different from that type that would like be better but bounce you out yeah I just I'm attracted to people that are like you know tatted up like artsy like you know like into the stuff that I like interesting okay so that's your type so you like the tattoo do you have tattoos I do oh yeah oh my gosh wait oh my god so many I don't know this I um what's the knuckles it says paradise it's for my album trouble paradise all my tattoos

are very like religious in theme like I have a rosary and I have the word star here you like it's religious rosary and star star, yeah. So are you practicing Catholic? Not like practicing Catholic. I feel like I have a kind of spirituality that's like different from what I grew up with. But I feel like everyone, like I've been like super like atheist and like I don't believe in anything. And then I've kind of like as an adult, like I flip-flopped back into being like it's okay to like believe in something or like believing in like a higher power like I love I love like religious iconography like I love like images of like Jesus and like Mary and like crucifixes and I feel like I grew up like with all of that around me so I kind of just like have a weird spirituality that's not so I wouldn't say it's tied to a certain like religion but I'm definitely like a spiritual person so you're not doing like

you're not praying the rosary the apostles no no I'm not praying the rosary sometimes I'll pray but I feel like it's almost just like a practice of like what I grew up doing like I'm not opposed to like going to like a Sunday mass like sometimes that's nice you know I know I was just telling him like I want to go we used to we grew up going to like mass and stuff and I was like I should go again it was always confusing Catholic church because there were so many saints and so many people to pray for. Like my dad gave me St. Christopher for my car. And then it's like you have to say the prayer to St. Christopher.

Then someone who had cancer would be St. Jude. I'm like, there are so many people to pray to. Yeah, it's hard to keep up. But in a way, it's like extra prayers. I'm like, well, you know, it doesn't hurt. Yeah. You know? It's weird. I feel like growing up in Catholic school was such a trip because I was like, when I think about what they were like teaching us as children, I like you guys should not have been saying like they'd be like if you guys masturbate he can see

and you're gonna go to hell and we'd be like well like look as an adult I'm like whoa but don't you think that's kind of true I always feel like not that you go to hell but they can see they can see I was saying when people pass away too I'm always like I hope like my people don't see me like my family or something because I wonder you know they like look down it's just how you perceive heaven but I'm like if they're always watching you do they watch you have sex right I don't know I don't see me like my family or something because I wonder you know they like look down it's just how you perceive heaven but I'm like if they're always watching you do they watch you have sex right I don't know I don't know maybe not are they watching everything or do they just peek in for like the things that like matter like I don't know the things that matter because if you're a soul you don't have eyes you know what I mean I feel like it's just like floating if you're a

soul you don't have eyes yeah so they're just you know their essence is with you that's like people people see it. It is such a trip. Yeah. I was, I never went to Catholic school, but like my dad's a hardcore Catholic to this day. He really loves Catholicism and yeah, some of the rules are whatever, but some of them are kind of funny and some of them are good. You know, there's, oh, Len's happening right now. Did you give anything up for it? No, I should have. My mom, my mom's always like, you need to give up. Like like don't eat meat today and I'm like girl oh Friday is yeah like we're past that like come on but um yeah like I don't know sometimes it's funny just for like disciplinary reasons to like exercise those things and like I should have given something up but or fasting I know they do fasting on days get the ashes I think it it made me like as a kid I didn't retain so much of like the religious stuff as much. But I felt like even when I got to public school, I noticed there was a difference of like I was like disciplined different.

Like I felt like I was more respectful of like adults. And like there were kids in my public school that were just like so rude to the teacher. And I'd be like, what? Like you can't talk to them that way. I really think growing up Catholic gave me kind of like a I don't know. Like I kind of appreciate how I don't know like I kind of appreciate how I was like disciplined or whatever like I feel like I have like respect or just like for people in general in a different way like I wasn't like a crazy kid like they they would like make

sure like you could not be like the teacher in Catholic school yeah yeah were they like slapping your knuckles with like rulers and stuff that's what I was here no no there was one nun art teacher her name was sister Barbara and she like hated my ass and they would never like they couldn't like hurt us but they would definitely you get like talked to like sternly okay so there was never you always just hear they always like with their rosaries like hit people and stuff but i don't know that's like i feel like that's like some 1960s i don't know if they still do that they probably do in like certain there's probably certain religions that are like really serious about it yeah like if you act up or anything like what would they yell at you for what would you get in trouble for like if you like had something that wasn't in uniform like

I would always try to like sneak like a pink like headband in the situation and they'd be like that is out of uniform take it off and I would take it off and then put it back on after lunch and then they yell at you and I get yelled at again and um yeah it's so funny that that's like rebellious or like my my iPod there was only certain days of school we could bring music to school to listen to music and i would i didn't care i would bring my ipod i would put my headphone and i would listen i would like be through my shirt and i'd be listening to music in my desk and i would always get caught i was also like i would cheat on tests i was bad wait oh so you were so yeah but at the same time when i get in

trouble i wouldn't like i wouldn't like try to like boss up on a teacher. Right. You're like. That was like the public school difference. Public school kids would try to like fight the teachers. And I'd be like, that was not my vibe. Like I would be like.

What would you do? Just immediately take them out? I'd be like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And then I'd do it again. I'd be like, ah, I did it again. I'm sorry. So you broke the rules, but then you were like polite about it when you were caught.

You're like, okay. That's kind of like the bane of my existence. Like I'll break the rules and then I'll be really nice about it so you feel bad for being mad at me yeah they're like okay like thanks for not like that's great yeah so public school was like so easy for you if the pink headband was your wildest rebellion i dyed my hair purple i was like oh girl we can go all out oh my god so you like public school better than catholic school definitely yeah definitely it like put a little hair on my chest yeah you're just like okay meeting all these new people and then you did go to college yeah i went one year to university of

missouri mizzou oh wow yeah is it hard to get in college no they want they want your tuition money i am not even kidding i graduated high school and i have no shame about this i hated school i was such a bad student i had add severe graduated with like a 1..5 GPA I think that's the lowest you can actually walk across the stage and get a diploma for like I was like they were like she is dumb as rocks we don't know but I wasn't I just didn't so smart I didn't care about like I hated homework I wouldn't do my homework yeah I just wouldn't study and I just didn't care like the things that I loved I would learn everything there was to know about it and there was just no classes about like like I did a really good job in like English and like my films class those were the only in art and that was it yeah

it's very yeah science like math and chemistry oh my gosh physics I was like it wasn't like I was like I don't understand the ball gets from here to there what are you saying I was like what are you saying the ball that and math and we never took one math class in high school really I don't know if it was the school I went to I was like in a little farm town too but there was not one math class i just took a bunch of gym classes and that's it oh nice and i was like i was a girl that like walked the mile too oh for sure that anytime someone's like pay to start running i'm like absolutely not there's no can you run now not really like if you had to do a music video like a tape run or like a movie like a horror movie i could run i mean like i feel like i do pilates like here and there like i work out as

an adult but i was, not in high school. I was just not. I was never athletic my whole life. I was never an athlete. Like, were you coordinated? Like, could you catch a ball if you were playing dodgeball or something? No. I could dance, though.

I was, like, a dancer. I was, like, really into dance. I did, like, this is so embarrassing. I did, like, hip-hop dance. That was, like, my big thing. Wait, why is that embarrassing? That's so cool. I don't know.

Because, like, I just feel like, I don't know. Like, thinking about, like, an 11-year-oldyear-old white girl doing hip-hop dance is like... Were you good? I feel you're good. It's good. I honestly was, yeah. I feel like I was pretty good. You're a rapper.

You rap and you do hip-hop. That makes sense, actually. You have so much in you. So that was my favorite thing. I love dancing, but yeah, I could not kick a ball. Well, dancing's cooler anyways. Kicking a ball, what's it going to do? You know what I mean?

On stage, you're not going to kick a ball. You're going to dance. And your dancing is so good so like on stage like your stage show now do you choreograph it yourself yeah it's not I kind of just perform I feel like I haven't done any like choreo like things in a really long time but I feel like for my next album I definitely want to tap back in I loved like I love some choreographed dance like a Lady Gaga like where she has the big break moments and stuff the Britney Spears slave for you like it's fierce that one is everything.

Your Gimme More remix is so good. I was like, why didn't you do a visual for that? That would have been so good. I wish we could have cleared that. It's like, it's really tricky. I just tried again. It was like going viral on TikTok again. And we tried to get it cleared a second time.

And it's like, all it takes is like one writer. It doesn't even matter how much it costs sometimes. It's like one writer to like not agree. And there's a lot of writers. Using a master. Yeah yeah there's a lot of and it's like an older song too so it's hard to get in touch with people and it's so iconic because you have like it's britney slater like it's just so cool thank you i was like oh this is a cool remix and just like the whole changing of the lyrics was like so good i was like thank you that would be the clap i feel like britney does do like who you know like random claps not like that the random like tanashi like

you know yeah you know i didn't know of her before and then when she did with her so i feel like britney does do like who you know like random clubs not like that the random like tanashi like you know yeah you know i didn't know of her before and then when she did with her so i feel like you by britney i would love to if she ever came back to music i would never want to like prod too much because i know she has like a weird relationship with it all now she keeps saying like she would never go back but then sometimes she'd be like i am like i don't know but i would die she did ellen john she did tiny dancer you know what i mean she might do like a little remix i see her all the time because she lives in this area and i always see her and i was yeah and i never wanted i i'm but i'm very much like you where it's like she's my paul mccartney where i'm like i just feel like maybe i should say hi but then i'm like no i feel like she would

be like no stop leaving because britney's like it's like such a level and it wasn't like an event like you went to it's just like literally her down the street and i was like i don't know i just i always want to see her no i hear that she's so sweet like I hear that she's like so like I feel like I feel like she wouldn't be like weird about being approached especially if it's like you know like you live in the same neighborhood you could just be like hey neighbor right you know I don't know I always can I borrow two eggs and a cup of sugar that would be oh my god that'd be everything when I see her I just always want to tell her how good she looks she's so petite and tiny and looks so amazing and I just always want to like tell her but I'm like well you know she's

probably yeah well that's nice that's nice of you you know I feel like but it's like a moment where you're like I want to be friends with her so bad because she's like my ultimate queen like that's the person I wanted to be growing up so same same that that collab would be great who else would you want to clap with like a dream collab dream collab, I feel like it's always like producers. Like I would love to work with like Skrillex. Oh my God. That sounds like, isn't that like a throwback or is he still around? Oh, he's like, no, he's still, he like kills it.

His albums are so, he's like one of the best electronic producers I think ever. He's like so great. I feel like that's such a throwback. I feel like back in the day, like Epic Rap Battles would always like do Skrillex. I was like, oh, okay. No, he, he put out a song, he put out an album, like I think last year or maybe two years ago, but it's like really sick. There's a song with Missy Elliott and it samples like Mr. Wazo and it's really sick. Oh, so he does, is that what he does? Like sampling? I don't know much about like producing. He like samples, he remixes, he produces stuff also like from

scratch, but he did the whole like Justin Bieber purpose album. And I'm always on like a weird, like I could be on like a Ted talk tip, but I'm like, that is one did the whole like justin bieber purpose album okay and i'm always on like a weird like i could be on like a ted talk tip but i'm like that is one of the best modern pop albums of all time really purpose it's the the production is so like forward like thick it's so cool it's such a good album you know all the technical stuff so i feel like that's when you can like listen to it i wouldn't know is it like justin bieber's album or is it like their collab it's justin bieber's album but skrillex basically did the whole like did most of it I think okay and the producing is like what I'm so bad at this like making the beat got it so you'll like do the lyrics and then you need a producer to make the yeah yeah I get really hands-on I don't like produce necessarily but I get really hands-on

with like the production of my music like I know what I want to go where and like when things need to be added or like sounds and like I get really like anal about it all okay so you like can get into the technical you know what sounds good you're like no change that change that yeah yeah would you ever like dm scroll like hey let's work together I feel like I've tried oh have you yeah have you been left on read yeah not left on read but just like you know they don't accept it yeah that's better oh right now they have to accept it because I'd be dming like random people for my like the weekend like you want to come on my podcast like no one sees it but some people don't see it so it's hard it's hard to like get through that first wall but once you do yeah people are like cool but um yeah or

like i would love who else like i feel like kavinsky i would love to collab with he's like a great producer i've always loved his music or what's he done what's he worked on you know that song um have you ever seen drive with ryan gos? I feel like this is that song where it's like, there's something about you. Oh, yeah. It's hard to explain. Yeah. That song. I'm giving you a night call to you.

That song. Oh, my God. We got it singing. Yay. That felt like a little concert. Yeah. My impersonation of the thing. I'm like, giving you.

That's me singing. That was good. The duet of it. You were duetting yourself. That was nice. I like that. But yeah, I think that's a good one. Or N okay so nelly oh nelly that's a throwback though okay that's my big one he's from st louis so that's where i'm from and that i everyone like if you

put on like ride with me in a bar in st louis everyone drops what they're doing puts their down and sings like that's a that's a good one that's a classic yeah he's a hometown here like hot in here country grammar like i yeah i would love a nelly feature That's a classic. Yeah, he's a hometown here. Like, hot in here, country grammar. Like, yeah, I would love a Nelly feature. That's so funny. He's from St. Louis. I totally forget that. Yeah. Isn't there, like, an abandoned mansion in St. Louis that he had?

Yes, it's in Eureka. Oh, my. Have you seen it? I have never seen it in person. But I know where it is. Eureka. So, like, St. Louis proper is, like, the city. And then, like, as you get out, it's, like, suburbs.

And then as you keep going out, it's more rural. He bought, like, a mansion in Eureka. And I guess just, like, it's like suburbs. And then as you keep going out, it's more rural. He bought like a mansion in Eureka. And I guess just like, I don't know, abandoned it or whatever. Yeah, there's nothing going on in Eureka. So I'm like shocked anyone would live there. Why would he do that, I wonder? I don't know. He's from St. Louis, the city.

He's from St. Louis. But people like, especially like, you know, when you get like money and you get success, like you can build like fat ass like mansions out in Eureka. Like when I was in high school, there would always be like mansions out in Eureka like when I was in high school there would always be like house parties out in Eureka you'd like drive like 40 minutes because like that's where all the big houses are because it's like it's cheap to build you know yeah it's crazy so I think that's just where he built his house yeah so weird why I abandoned it because he has money I know I don't know it's so weird it was haunted he just like left he's like I'm out yeah oh I want

to go I want to go to Eureka now. Look at that. Nelly was cool. Like I was never a big like music, like I didn't know anyone but Britney Spears, but Nelly was always cool. Yeah. Or what's the one he did with Kelly Rowland? Oh yeah. I need you. I need you.

Nelly, I love you. Oh, I do. It's so good. I meant the chickagee. Wait, that's because of. And she tries to text him using like Excel. Oh, yes. And everyone's like, wait, did no one notice that?

That's so funny. No, that one's so funny no that one was so good i loved her hair i loved everything about it oh he was so cool yeah i wonder if he made music again he always wore like the band-aid on his face why did he do that i don't know it looked sick though oh my god that is actually really cool nelly was cool i think for even people who didn't know hip-hop he was like that gateway yeah he did tim mcgraw do it with him he's like country now i kind of love love that. I was always country, right? Like a little St. Louis.

Yeah, country grammar. Yeah, I love that. It's a hybrid of the city country, you know? Yeah. Like I feel like Chicago was even more like, that's like city city.

Like St. Louis is like a little hybrid of both. Where it gives you. People get down with country music, but people are also, it's like a city, you know? Like it's not, you know, I don't know.

I love St. Louis. I thought it was, I've only I've only been like comic cons there and I always thought it was like so cool yeah like the arches are cool like the whole city is like a vibe I feel like I'm I'm from Illinois not Chicago like suburbs but like Chicago always to me felt a little bit I don't know I was always a little more scared St. Louis feels like a vibe oh my god I love that I feel like everyone like it's like a flyover town for most people so I'm like that's nice yeah well we like drove through to get to California too. So what is it? Like Route 66 or something from like Chicago to here.

Oh, yeah. And it's a good drive. Yeah. Where are you from in Illinois? I'm from a place called Rockford, Illinois. I feel like I know people from there. Yeah. It's like two hours.

I don't know what direction. I guess west of Chicago. Oh, nice. Yeah. So it's, and then I'm from an even smaller town. It's called Pecatonica. So it's even smaller. But Rockford's like the main big guess west of Chicago. Oh, nice. Yeah. So it's – and then from an even smaller town. It's called Pecatonica. So it's even smaller. But Rockford's like the main big town next to it.

Oh, cool. And then it took us like an hour and a half to get into Chicago. But – Damn. Yeah. My cousins are all from like Aurora area, I think. Or no. What is it?

Algonquin. Algonquin, Illinois. That might be more central Illinois, I think. Yeah. When I think of Aurora, I think of Wayne's World. Oh, yeah. That's where they shot it, supposedly. Oh, my God.

They're like live from aurora illinois and i was like okay that's an snl classic oh yeah and yeah all those when you said the when you said those skits i'm like god i remember like church lady like all those were like so good yeah i feel like they all have podcasts now and i always like i try to begin them all the time i'm always like do you want to come on like those kind of comedians are like david spade does a lot of podcasts does he really yeah he's kind of in the scene now he dates a lot of podcasts. Does he really? Yeah. He's kind of in the scene now. He dates a lot of, uh, young girls in LA. Oh my God.

But like, where is he? Yeah. Would you ever, would you want to date with him? Oh my God. Sure. I would date David Spade.

Oh my, Oh, funny, funny goes like the longest way. Right. I feel like funny is so, I don't know, like a guy who's funny.

Like I always like got when everyone's like, Oh, like the Pete Davidson thing. I'm like, I get it. Like he's funny. Right. I don't get that. You don't get that. His I always like got when everyone's like, oh, like the Pete Davidson thing. I'm like, I get it. Like he's funny, right? I don't get that.

You don't get that. His tattoos are a little insane, but like, I'm like, you're like funny. So like, of course you would have insane tattoos. He must have some,

a lot of things going for him because he gets all the hot girls. Yeah. But he's kind of like the modern day dude because David Spade used to get hot girls. You know what I mean? He used to get all those like, I think the person he had a baby with

was like a playmate. You know what I mean? And I think he laura flynn boyle he used to date like really hot people so yeah he might have something to it i don't know allegedly he takes people out at like four o'clock for dinners or something like that i don't know four o'clock in the afternoon yeah like that's when they have dinner i've heard it from multiple people i've been to him he was never interested in dating me but i feel like the young hot ones like you you'll probably be like hey stop i would you know there's nothing wrong with it how old are you you're 96 so i'm 26 He was never interested in dating me, but I feel like the young, hot ones like you, you'll probably be like, hey. Oh, stop. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.

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like damn like missing that cut off the bachelor I really do feel like there's a cut off at like 31 I was like wow I'd be too old to be on the bachelor which I feel so young and I was like wow I wouldn't be able to be on that show I would be so bad on a show like that you never would do dating show like love is if it was me as the main I would I would just be so I'm like so like weird about like men and I'm so picky and I just feel like I just would be like a terrorist on it like I would just be like horrible I'd be mean like I'd be like you're weird would you I don't know I don't know it's just like there's something about like men like when I watch the bachelor like men that like think they're like like he thinks he's all cool it's like like I'd be like no like I don't like you like girls like we're going right right you're like why are we all

fighting over this guy yeah like what's so great about him you need your own show like daisy of love do you remember that show and then you get all your tattoo people you give them backstage passes like that's the vibe it would be very daisy of love it would be so like rock of love all those vh1 like those yeah i was a little too young to be on those because it was like 21 and i think i was like 19 at the time and i wanted to be on them so bad damn you would have killed rock of love. Oh, Rock of Love was my jam. I got to do, Bret Michaels was on my podcast like a while ago during quarantine

and I was just like obsessed. I was like, don't ask him too many Rock of Love questions. I'm like, that's all I care about. That's all you want to know. Because he was so cool. He's still so hot. He used to live literally in this neighborhood,

but he moved away. No way. Yeah, and I was like, oh, that's so cool. I want to see Bret Michaels. Oh my gosh. You just start just like going, knocking on doors,

being like, want to be on my podcast? Seeing who you find. I probably would. I would totally do that. I just ask everybody now. I'm like, like you, I my gosh you just start just like going knocking on doors being like want to be on my podcast seeing who you find I probably would I would totally do that I just ask everybody now I'm like like you I DMG and I was like period when you're like yes it's like what and it happens that's why you should just try everything because like you know one out of like 50 people will say yes and it's very cool but truly truly truly it's like an honor that you're here because like I'm not like I think I sent you screenshots even of like all the people oh my god I'm like just so you know I'm not just saying this and I wanted an honor that you're here because like I'm not like I think I sent you screenshots even of like all the people. Oh, my God.

I'm like, that's how you know. I'm not just saying this. It's an honor to be here. I have literally watched you since I was like too young to be using YouTube. Wait, really? Yes. Like, yes. Like Blunt's on doll for MJ.

That's crazy. Yes. Like I know like the whole I know your whole lore. I've just been obsessed with you. Oh, my God. That's like crazy for me. I would watch you do like Mac makeup collection like on the webcam. Like that.

Oh, my God. I'm telling you. I was I was like an og like youtube stan like i loved like yeah i loved like smosh or like what was there i'm trying to think of all like the really old smosh wow that's crazy who else i'm trying to think too like back i was like a kid so i loved like fred did you yeah like i loved like that's everything yeah lucas crickshay still makes videos. He's still out there. Yeah. I love him. He came to one of my. When I did a tour.

A very small tour. Six. Like six cities. He came like in disguise and filmed it for his video. Really? And I was just like. Okay. I kind of love.

Because yeah. He was so huge. Fred was so big. So you like the big ones. You like like Smosh. Do you remember Totally Sketch? No. He did a lot with like Shane and.

Trying to think. Because like I wasn't too big into YouTubers in that era. I didn't know who the original ones were. But you must have been so young. Yeah, I was. I liked a lot of random ones. There was these dudes, Balloon Shop. And I always thought they were really funny.

What did they do? Random sketch comedians. Watching it as an adult, I'm like, this is not funny at all. I love that you love sketch comedies. You were watching those. I was watching all sketch comedy. I always wanted my original dream. I thought my big like ticket to like claim to fame would be like something with like Saturday Night Live like I wanted to like write or like be like

something in comedy like my dad always was like you know like wanted me to get into comedy because that was like his dream that didn't like work out so I was like I thought that would have like been my thing but I loved singing more than I loved comedy yeah you both though yeah oh my god what could you do I wonder I get booed no I feel like you'd be have you ever tried it like live like no nothing no I've never tried that's so interesting I wouldn't think not that you're not funny but I wouldn't even think of you as like someone who wants to do like stand-up comedy I don't even think I'm like funny in that way I just I think that any like when you nerd out over comedians like everyone like like I loved comedy in general so I'm like funny in that way. I just, I think that any, like when you nerd out over comedians, like everyone, like, like

I loved comedy in general. So I feel like that was like, yeah, when I was young, I just wanted to like be on SNL. More than like Kristen Wiig. Like I wanted to like, yeah. Be that girl. Yeah. Who is your favorite? Like who, what kind of comedians do you like stan?

Um, ooh, you know, like I love all the, like I said before, like Norm Macdonald, I always thought was so funny. He is like the funniest, like honestly. That's your number number one i feel like he might be one of my number ones videos of him on like conan or just like different interview shows he was just such like an in the best way him on conan or did you ever see him on the bob i think it was bob saget roast oh yeah where he just said this like weird bit about birds he's like you know the birds and i was like what he's so. He would do non-right. He was just so funny effortlessly. He was in the Andy Kaufman movie, too, I think.

Oh, was he really? He was one of the people in the sketches. Yeah, he's so good. I loved him. When he passed away, it was really sad and unexpected. It was recent, too. I was so sad. And I feel like no one my age, at least, cared or knew.

And I was like, this is so devastating. And all of his comedian friends being so upset about it. like so sad oh yeah they all were friends with him like Adam Sandler all those people he was did you ever get to see him at all perform when he was no no I wouldn't really go you know I was too young to like go to comedy shows I did my mom took me to see Amy Schumer once before everyone like turned on her in culture but she was she actually was really funny really like she had yeah she had um i think it was bridget everett this comedian went after amy schumer said and she would do this like cabaret like nude thing she like put her pussies in people's faces in the audience and it was so

funny wait real like yeah bridget everett she's i'm trying to think of some things bridget everett's been in have you ever seen like the sex in the city movie the second one i didn't see the first one oh she's like she's in it she's like you're great you're like she's like all drunk in the movie but like she has a really small part but she's so funny and she does stand up yeah and would she show her naked puss to everyone i don't know i don't remember i was young but i just remember being like gagged i was like whoa like i've never seen someone do that that's wild she was like just like raunchy comedian yeah she was great though like i yeah i think i think she's a really funny comedian i feel like female comedians have it so hard like it's just so hard like so many people are already root against a female comedian yeah well it's that whole trope where it's like women aren't

funny right yeah and it's like yeah who started that even like it was like it is hard because male comedians i don't know i guess i'm like a little biased i was like male comedians are so funny but i was always a stand-to i was i had a groupie phase for a minute where i would go to like stand-up shows and yeah just hang out and see stand-up comedians that no one knew living in LA too it's like you were you had access to like the the laugh factory and all those things what is it the comedy store yeah comedy store yeah there's a flappers in Burbank so you would see like the most random like Harland Williams and stuff there's like random people there but I feel like do you go to any of those shows not really I feel like as an adult i don't really go to like comedy shows ever but i do i

like watching stand-up like from time to time do you ever watch like who's i guess like i only think of now like matt rife and i'm like no one likes him so i love like john mulaney okay john mulaney is really funny um he had a cancellation didn't he he did he kind of just had like i think he like relapsed or something and there was like a lot of uh he like divorced his wife i don't want to get into his tea on no no that's what i thought he did yeah he kind of got canceled because he he like left his wife of many years and then started dating this actress lady i don't know like all the lore but people were like a baby with her and stuff like that yeah but um he's he's a very funny still though yeah i just sometimes you don't know about this stuff and then he's like i don't know anything although i just know everyone kind of turned against him

dude like we all love him and it's like amy schumer but that's why you can't get like political too because it's like i liked amy schumer's movies like trainwreck and stuff like that was so good yeah like it was funny it was cute yeah and i love seeing someone with like my body type on screen it's a good i feel pretty that was also really good i loved i feel pretty i loved it like i feel every day i'm always like oh i feel like i look like you you know so I'm always like yeah no but it's like first of all you're beautiful stop like you're stunning your body is insane that's like crazy oh my god no see I think at the end of the day we all like hate ourselves a little bit because I'm always like I feel so like insecure about stuff really yeah I well the look today was supposed to be your tefla pink jacket that

that's what I was trying to recreate and then you had a pink bikini and I ordered it and I was like you know what I'm gonna own my body pregnant whatever I'm gonna wear a bikini I put it on I was like absolutely not get me I almost had like a mental breakdown before you came I was like no no no but can't do it I was like when I looked at your pictures like absolutely not oh my god I kept the jacket closed for a reason I was like no you look so good you look like all your what's the music video where you're walking down naked erotic electronic yes oh my gosh I was like your body I saidotic electronic yes oh my gosh I was like your body I said the behind the scenes of it I was like that's so amazing like see that's funny

that you say that because I I felt so not toned in the video but I think that is what made it like I feel like my body type is not like the typical like I don't have hips like I'm very like straight and down even people in the comments they were like she has no hips and I'd be like yeah it's very Britney of you neither does my mom neither does my sister yeah like I like it was it's so funny but it's a good body I love that body because everyone can buy hips now and I love hips of course but I love that straight it's like very Britney it's very yeah but yeah I think yeah that was like I definitely I've never felt like I'm like the super skinny girl so like doing that video I've like lost weight in my life like I feel like I have been like every different kind of size but just like doing that video I was like whoa like we're

really putting it all out here were you dieting or anything before that yeah a little like a little bit yeah you know here and there but um was it one of those ones where you're like I can't wait to have like pizza after this okay yeah very much that I for every music video every video is like the thing you like work towards and then after I'm just like I want to go to like Buffalo Wild Wings and it feels so good afterwards yeah it's yeah because I mean at the end of the day it does get blow to people like it doesn't make a difference but like no it does it does yeah especially because when you're gonna be naked that specific one I think you said you like risk getting arrested for did anyone come up to you during filming like any police or no it was

mostly just like bystanders and all bystanders and it also was really sketchy because like I'm not like a creep. Like I didn't realize people would have their children out in Hollywood. Like it was midnight. It was like actually like 1130 midnight and it was tourists with their kids. And as soon as we would spot like a family with kids, I would be like throw me the robe and I would put the robe on. So you were actually naked?

Yeah. You didn't have a bandeau? I had like I had pasties for tracking the bars onto my boobs and then like a sticker like right in the crotch of like my butt my it was i was naked like i was actually naked were they green were there like a green screen thing they were like two nude pasties with little black dots in them so you could like do so the bar could be tracked to my oh my gosh i just broke a nail so you could do these amazon nails so you could track the bar to like my body okay and but it's out it's out wow yeah but also like yeah that's not the worst thing on hollywood boulevard at midnight So you could track the bar to, like, my body. Okay. And put your ass out. Ass out.

Wow. Yeah, but also, like, yeah, that's not the worst thing on Hollywood Boulevard at midnight if someone has their people out there. There's, like, users out there. There's prostitutes. There's, like, actual people doing crazy shit out there. So it's not the worst thing. I've seen people, like, smearing food into the sidewalk, like, screaming.

Like, that's worse than, like, a naked lady. Yeah, no, for sure. I feel like if anything, was there any creeps? Was there anybody that was, like, inappropriate? Not really. I mean, you, for sure. I feel like if anything, was there any creeps? Was there anybody that was like inappropriate? Not really. I mean, you, she filmed it. There were some, but it was never a point where it was always like, there were some men who were like funny.

They weren't even like catcalling or heckling. They were just like, get it girl. And I was like, okay. They were into it. They were like, okay, I love it. They were supportive. They were respectful. Exactly.

It was like, that was a very supportive catcall. Okay, I love that. It was gorgeous. Yeah. Okay. But yeah. And you had no, are you you with the label are you independent right now I was with fader label under universal for that whole album cycle and then my last album fulfilled my contract so I'm like technically in like a couple months I'll be like independent technically so that one you're under a label and they were totally fine

with the concept they're like yeah that's fine yeah well I mean it cost actually five dollars to make that video so like absolutely that is fine do that go They're like, yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Well, I mean, it cost actually $5 to make that video. So like, absolutely. That is fine. Do that. Go get naked. Wow. Oh my God. That's amazing.

You can do it for so cheap. Yeah. What was the $5? What did it go to? The pasties probably. Oh, okay. So you film and edit. Do you edit or do you edit?

She edits and films. Wow. Just you two? Wow. And it's just you two on Hollywood Boulevard. Yeah. And my stylist, Malcolm, which is funny because there was like the absence of styling. But he's still like he did like the shoes and like we like vibed it up.

The sunglasses. Yeah. That's like a whole part of it. I love it. I think bring nakedness back. I miss the Playboy days. I miss the nudity of it all. And just seeing like someone's body.

Like you said, even like a body that's different. You know what I mean? Because everyone is. Like you said, everyone's very thin now of it all and I like just to see like a you know those toned bodies like the Britney days because Britney was never like stick thin you know what I mean not like that impossible supermodel waist like you know I see so it's so weird like yeah I feel like seeing different bodies that almost was like everyone in the Y2K culture it was so like thin obsessed but at the same time you just saw more variety of like women

in a way oh yeah like yes and no like obviously to a certain extent yes and to a certain extent no but I just don't remember like I feel like now it's like so like heroin chic model body everyone has to be so thin it's like Ariana Grande Lily Rose they love gorge but it is like I'm like god everyone is so skinny Madison Beer and it's just like it's nice to see different like you said in early 2000s we did see like the Paris Hiltons but even when Lindsay Lohan became like curvy oh my god it was like so hot all of a sudden she had I think SNL did those skits with her like boobs

Harry Potter and all of a sudden you're just like oh wow she looks so good and I think that's I don't know I kind of yeah I kind of miss the era Brittany too she always had like a toned body like she was she was athletic she looked like an athlete she didn't look like like tiny supermodel with no ribs that's how I feel with you i feel like you look like athletic like you do pilates like you dance stuff like that so i was just like oh it's just it's nice to see and that's why i said amy

schumer got canceled because i like to see her body too i was like yeah she'd be naked and it's just it's nice to have that out there i guess we have like lizzo and stuff like that yeah but now everyone tries to ban nudity because you couldn't put that video on tiktok you know what i mean they're so they're so strict about it and And I was like, that's so annoying. YouTube now too. I feel like isn't YouTube is so strict with like cuss words and nudity and. Oh, yeah. We bleep like everything on this.

It's like bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. It's so crazy. I remember when I was a kid, though, like it was not like that. Oh, you could say anything. You could talk about. Yeah. You could call all this, but like blowjob. You could just say all those things.

And it's just like now we beep, beep, beep, beep everything. I know you saying that. What did she just say? You're like blowjob. Yeah. B bleep bleep again our editors I knew this one I'm like this one's gonna be editing especially your title is a star right it's like but yeah if you say that anymore people are like I think even saying the word vape I think we have to bleep that I don't think you can even say that it's crazy the rules yeah or if someone does it we always have to like bleep we have to like cut them out or something like that it's yeah i guess in like in a way it's good but also like the censorship of it all it's

like i'm never for censorship i'm so like put it all out there anti-censorship i i don't there's something about censorship that like freaks me out like in like political speaking like i like yeah i'm like let it like let us cuss like right you know this is just the beginning like what else are they gonna start like controlling and stuff like that when you dig like do a deep dive into it it's like kind of scary yeah you spiral a little bit would you ever do now like because you did that video and you have the uncensored footage would you put like an do an of or something where you put like uncensored stuff from your shoots maybe i've been thinking i think a lot about only fans i feel like it would really depend on how i

would do it but i've always thought about doing it or doing like i feel like it'd be shocking for like a pop artist to like do adult entertainment but like in like the actual like real way so sometimes I think about that I'm like I feel like I would do that I would like make art out of it and make it my way because I think that could be a really cool platform for something like that but I'm not sure you know what it is and girls and gays would love it too you know what I mean it's not even like necessarily yeah yeah it's kind of like madonna's like sex book like i mean that's before my time too but i remember like that was like such a big thing and i i always think that's like cool because like yeah the body is like art and it's cool you can make money off of it yeah right and i feel like

doing like art housey like like pornography would be like a cool thing i don't know my god you should do like a film with that guy that you were talking about earlier, like the spring break. I was like, you should do like a whole like sex film with that. Oh, I'd be so, oh my gosh. I'm like the biggest Harmony Kareem stan. I would love to. Harmony Kareem, my God, look at him up.

Would you act? Have you acted before? I have not, but I would love to. That is definitely on my bucket list. I feel like it's something I've always wanted to do and like, you know, I don't know. You never know if you're good at something until you try,

but I think it's something I would be good at. Oh yeah. And I'm a theatrical person and I feel like I would love to do like drama or like know I don't know you never know if you're good at something until you try but I think it's something I would be good at oh yeah and I'm a theatrical person I feel like I would love to do like drama or like I don't know I love movies so it'd be so cool because your Slater persona is so like one way and even you now it's like oh my god you could do so many different things like you have everything you know you could be you know you could be all these people it's like yeah and I think it's just like a cool vibe even to see you now like oh my god it's like such a different persona than you get you're like just like a really I'm a real girl yeah you're just like so chill about earth which I would never know because you're so glamorous you do everything so big and I'm just like it's intimidating online

and then when I saw you I was like oh my god she's like so real and so cool that's the internet for you right right that makes it but you really are like larger than life you know on there so that's why even dming you I was like oh my god I can't believe it yeah but it's you I'm like you're like such an icon oh my I don't feel like because I never did mainstream stuff I've always just done stuff online and social media which anybody can do but I feel like when you do mainstream stuff like touring and you have these albums and you're at pride and stuff like that to me that's like unattainable oh my gosh which I think you were talking about you like celebrities because they were unattainable wasn't like you know nowadays everyone wants to be relatable and stuff but it

is there is kind of a cool unattainability to it you know yeah the mystique of old like not even old hollywood but even like recent times like i feel like who can you say that's like a newer actor that gives you like the vibe of like a george clooney you know what i mean people used to have mystique and they're like i feel like now and it's weird because you see like OG like celebrities try to get into the social media space and do the TikTok thing and everyone's just kind of like no why are you yeah yeah and it's weird it's awkward because it's like this isn't you know like you can't you don't need to be like making TikToks like exactly and I think but I think people are kind of getting back to that like the Austin Butler, Zac Efron they seem to be like making tiktoks like exactly and i think but i think people are kind of getting back to that like the austin butler zach effron they seem to be like not on social

media it makes them cooler to me i was like okay we kind of have some of those because they get when you see them on like tiktok it takes away plus also the more people talk and stuff sometimes you're like oh they're kind of like cringe well that's yeah that's like most actors it's like as soon as you're like oh no no yeah like you see the rock on tiktok and you're like this just feels inauthentic you know what i mean and then people turn on them like they did with the whole maui situation now the rock is no longer cool or something or i think jaylo is a good example of it too she used to be so cool and now everyone i don't know why i don't have anything negative against her but everyone is like turning against her now and becoming a meme like did you see the one with her do you want

tiktok like that yeah i i use it every day i like i love it i'm addicted to it but you don't really make it i make like little lip sync videos here and there that's like we really we have not seen those I just like it'll be like really quick it'll just be like me like to show my like outfit or makeup almost I'll just be like okay I love that yeah a little who do you lip sync to lately um just any songs I'm like loving on that's popular at the moment I thank god for tiktok because I never kept up with like music. And then now I know I know there's like that struggle, especially as like an artist of like, oh, we do we like TikTok, do we not? But that's how I really find out all my music.

Yeah. But I guess it's like kind of. It can be a double edged sword because I feel like on one hand, it's changed the music industry so much. I think it has had a couple negative effects and giving people like music platforms and music careers who might not full be like an artist but they had the one song that goes viral but then at the same time I think it's nice that the public is deciding on like who is like getting these big songs and it's not like a label trying to push something like very right mechanically in a way like the people

decide right you know this is popular now. And that's cool. I think it gives anyone a chance. I could have a song go viral tomorrow. I could never have a song go viral in my life. Or it's just like the more you post, the more the chances go up, I guess. Yeah, the virability of it all. Do you write for other people?

I don't, but I would love to. Who is your ideal person to write for? I would love, actually, Heidi. I would love to write songs for Heidi. She feel like she's working on an album now i know i've been like i've been all over the place but i need to send her some pitch songs but i just i love her music i love how like sweet her voice sounds and i would love to write for her so iconic when she did the miss universe i was like she was the one that was here that i was like really starstruck like i literally like most i was literally just like i'm so nervous right now because she's also very like beautiful and stunning and you're just like and then I watching

her grow up you're just like oh my god I can't believe you're here yeah she's also very down to earth she's so down she's such a sweetie pie her and Spencer both too I always I went on their podcast and I you did yeah I feel like yeah yeah so you know her okay I feel like I I grew up watching the hills and all of those shows and it's so insane how they were painted. They're so smart for this, but they were the villains, but in real life they were actually the nicest people. They just knew what they were doing. And yeah, they have this book called How to Be Famous

that I'm obsessed with. It's this really tongue in cheek, like little, it's like this quick little book and they talk about scheming the paparazzi and staging paparazzi setups, because that was what they would do and make their money. And it's just genius. Yeah, it was just genius yeah they would be in the park and they'd be like crying and yelling and then they would sell the photos and i'm like that is

so iconic so iconic her number one cover she said was us weekly and it was her like uh pretending to like file for divorce papers against heidi or against spencer and she was the number one and we made so much money as a god you're so smart right like she really is like oh my god if you guys did music together um if you wrote for her I would love to I would love to because I don't think she doesn't write her own right she doesn't or she might I think she does well yeah like I think a lot of the the way she made superficial she would she told me that she like found like the best songwriters and it was very how big mainstream pop artists at that time would curate their albums because it's like Britney wasn't really writing I mean she wrote some of her music but like it's like you get like

pitch songs and stuff and like you curate the vibe and um she made it like the same way that like any major label pop star would make it which i think is so cool what did she say i think she told us she spent put like a million two million dollars into it or something and i was like that's everything like that's a passion project if i ever heard one passion project and i love people like that i love people who just like and like you like you said you did camming so you could pay for like beats and stuff like that. Yeah yeah. It shows so much passion that you would put your money into your stuff. Yeah you know I feel like when you really believe in something and you want to make it like you should like everyone you know everyone right now is clowning on JLo for like her um she

spent like 20 million on that movie but just like you know and like is I I saw it did I was I obsessed like no but like to me the fact that she like needed to like make her idea that bad that was funded I'm like props like you know like if you want to make this that bad like that's like commendable in my like to if you want to go make something I would have done that a hundred percent like I love that too I love that she's just like yeah I'm gonna put all my money into this and like it like nobody knew what it was it was so weird but I was like if you believe in something do it it's a crazy watch I want to like take acid and watch it again oh that would be so fun I'd get really scared oh my god I would disappear you guys would never hear from me again I'd have like a mental break I'd like run to the desert

you could have but you could have cool like songs and music come from it yeah you're just remembering your trip watching JLo watching the JLo movie movie. That would be great. What was that on Amazon? I think so. That's wild. I wonder if she made any of it back. I don't know. Maybe they bought it or something. I don't know. Maybe they bought it. I feel like it might have been one of those things. Yeah. Like where Amazon actually like paid, like they did a deal. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see the clip of her trying to ask all these celebrities and they're like, they said no, they said no. But then Lizzo's like, they never asked me, you know, because they said Lizzo said no and she goes, they didn't ask me. So sometimes your team like will say no for you Lizzo's like they never asked me you know she because they said Lizzo said no and she goes they didn't ask me so sometimes your team like will say no for you yeah which is crazy because JLo was such a big deal I mean who's saying no to JLo but yeah that's what that it

puts everything into perspective because it's like I feel so I never ask people for collabs like in any sense because I hate being told no it makes me feel like a loser when I'm like do you want to get on my song and someone's like no and I'm like okay have you been told no oh my gosh yeah I had like a whole list of collabs for star fucker they all ended up just not working out which is fine like everyone's doing their own thing like I'm not I'm never gonna like chase someone down to like be on a song with me but seeing someone who's like really really big and famous like being told no is like that's just like so crazy yeah it's good though like we need checks and balances right you're like if it happens to JLo then it's fine that it's happening to me yeah did you do any duets on star no no i did a

song with this artist lolo zuai on my deluxe and she's really sick it's this song called makeup but it was pretty much just like a solo oh okay so you were like when you write songs you write them and then do you think like oh maybe someone would sound good on this or do you just yeah and then yeah which can be kind of jarring because it's like sometimes you think someone would sound good on something but they might not like it they might want like a different vibe song right so it's hard to kind of like guess and curate and I don't like to just like throw songs at people and be like hop on hop on like I like to really be intentional with what it is and who it's going to be and things like that but yeah did you you went on tour with charlie x oh yeah yeah how did you get into that yeah that was

a that was a long time ago that was like i think like 2019 i didn't really go on tour with her i just opened for two dates on her tour okay but yeah yeah how did that happen did you dm her i think her agents reached out or she reached out we she hit me up to do like a remix of one of her songs at the time and then i think it was because we were going to go do those two shows it was like it was just i forget which cities it was but it was two cities and then uh yeah like either her or her agents usually reach out that's usually how opening works too it's like an artist will kind of be like oh like i'm thinking of this person this person then agents will kind of get the deal done you know and then they communicate with each other yeah yeah a remix is hard to do remixes yeah um not really like i i didn't like produce a remix i

like put like a verse on something i see so i just like i can like write i'll like write any verse i could you know just like change it up or something yeah i'm like i just them out i don't know i gotta live for that yeah like they gave me more i was like this is kind of iconic yeah well if you ever want to do a remix i I have a song called I Love You, Jesus. You know, Catholic. I would die. Stop. I'm going to like shake.

Because I was like, you know, I'm a Catholic school girl. I feel like that. Oh my God, I would be so down. I love you, Jesus. That song I 100% wrote. Usually I have a writer, I have a Jeremy that like writes freaky and stuff like that. But that one I 100% wrote myself. Iconic.

There's no structure to the song. I think I have like 20 verses in that song. But's catchy as you know what you're doing thank you i would like i was we were talking about that hot topics yesterday i'm like i wonder if slater would want to do i love you jesus just because like a totally different direction that would be so sick though like to make it like club electronic like put some like fat bass behind it and have it be like i love you like it's like make it like crazy like that'd be so sick oh my god i love it get a little latex yeah we'll make it like really scary that would be so cool put like monk hymns like quiet like coral in the background it's like spooky yeah i love it i think jesus would appreciate it because i really

do love jesus i'm not like blasphemous like that i do too yeah i think he'd appreciate yeah i'm the same way you know like i literally i like wear a cross like i feel like i don't know jesus is such a he's like one of the most iconic figures of all time for sure almost like celebrity in a way i think he's the most like recognized face or something right like he's the most like drawn face recognized face i heard somewhere i love that we're talking about this i'm getting a jesus tattoo in a couple days no way like this is funny like of his face or like yeah that famous portrait of him with like the crown i'm getting it on my arm. Wow. Oh, my God. That's going to be so cool. Yeah. Do you have the rosary and what else?

Rosary, not too many. I have the star tattoo, this. This star was my first tattoo. Wow. What's the L? My nails are literally coming off. Oh, I kind of live. The L is for my mom and my sister's name are Libby and Laura.

Oh, cute. So you got the L for them. L for them. for them oh my god that's I love all the tattoos that you have you have any on your body like ribs or no I want to get more I feel like once you get started you can't stop like I always promise my mom that my last tattoo is my last one and it's never my last one she's like not about it she hates them she's like a you know old Polish like Long Island Catholic lady she like does not want to hear it with the tattoos she's like you know I saw I read an interview that you did you're just like yeah my mom finds out a lot about me

through my songs yes that you're bisexual she found out yeah through like articles and stuff she's like oh and i'm like yeah did she bring it up to you sometimes and i'm just like a girl i was kidding oh you're like that's just that's later that's not me and miley like come on that's what's cool about you you have the hannah mont and then, you know, both sides to you, which is cool. Loved that show. Wait, did you? Yeah. I never, again, it was like past my generation.

Were you like, this is going to be me? Yeah. I'm going to have best of both worlds. I feel like Hannah Montana did a lot to like little girl brains where like everybody wants to be famous. And I feel like that and High School Musical, all of those shows, I think that they're like to blame because it was all like, be a star content. We had Lizzie McGuire movie, and at the end,

she got to be a pop superstar in Italy. I was like, that's what I want to be, too. She's like, stumbled into it. Wait, I loved your recreation of the Liz McGuire. Oh, thank you. So good. See, that's what I did with my money. I was like, you know what?

I'm going to spend all my money. I did a bet on it. I did all of it. I was like, I'm going to be these people. The bet on it is my favorite. That one is too good. Oh, man. I would love to do that again.

But I did spend too much money. I think in total, I spent probably like $10 million over the years on music videos. No way. Yeah. I spent way too much. Oh, I wish you had like universal back lot. I would do the most. Get like water hydrants exploding.

I really thought I was that person. That's incredible, though. I spent way too much. And then I like, oh, I'm going to owe taxes. I never owned a home. I just had all these music videos. And I was just like was that person that's incredible though I spent way too much and then I like oh and then I would tax I never owned a home I just had all these music videos and I was just like oh that's fine though I didn't really care when I was like single and stuff I never thought I was gonna get married have kids I was like what do I spend my money while I have it however someone wants to spend their money is like it's just that it's how you want to spend your money exactly no I never judge when people like do crazy stuff I'm always like no

judgment like I would I would buy like rhinestone literally like what you're saying I would literally have everything rhinestone out and like I would just like I get like a rhinestone car oh god I've seen those like BMWs like just rhinestone out I don't know if they're real or AI but I always see them on Instagram I see them and like Japanese car shows a lot they'll have like a fully Swarovski crystal it's like a promotional for like the kind of car it is oh my god I would love that I don't i don't god are you a spender or a saver like would you splurge spender you are bad bad what's your what do you spend on clothes oh really vintage clothes and like oh like i what else do i i love clothes and i love um furniture really like where do you go find because

you get the art you get the 80s stuff so where do you find that um sometimes like cherish will have like good pieces or sometimes just facebook marketplace but like i'm always just like it's nothing's ever that expensive but it's just the volume at which i buy you know like i don't even like new luxury stuff that much but it'll be like an old prada purse that like mary kate olsen wore in like 2005 and i'll find it i'll be like an old Prada purse that like Mary Kate Olsen wore in like 2005 and I'll find it I'll be like that's what I want where do you find those um usually like vestia vestiaire collective I don't know what the website is they have a lot of stuff so you're like a vintage you're like a thrifter yeah do you follow the vintage show pony on Instagram I think so he's like really 80s he has all the 80s like he's like sets it up he has like pink stuff it's so cool wait I know I'm

putting my nails right here sorry I know I know exactly who you're talking about i do so cool i had a makeup artist her name was moira she's like a barbie she's like 80s barbie i feel like you just know so many of the same glam people the person did my glam day was like i did slater for pride or something like that i was like oh my god everyone knows you oh really louis dahl yeah he was like so good he's so good and he was like yeah and he's like who's on today and i was like because i showed him your picture and i was like slater he's so good. He's so good. I love Louis. And he was like, yeah. And he's like, who's on today? And I was like, because I showed him your picture. And I was like, explain her. He's like, oh, OK.

That's everything. Oh, my god. Yeah. So I always feel like we know the same glam people. But there's one that's like an 80s Barbie girl. Her name's like Moira or something like that. And her whole house is like 80s deco pink. It's so cool.

And it's like, I love. And she said that. She's like, I spent all my money on that. And I'm like, that's what you got to do. You know what I mean? Yeah. When I see things I like and I just want it like it makes it. I never grew up with stuff.

So like I feel like now that I have money to spend, I'm not like financially responsible. I don't think you need to be. Yeah. I think like in your 30s, you can become financially responsible. Right. 20s I spent. I was always at zero at the end of the month. I literally spent everything.

I was like, that's fine. Yeah. It always comes back. I'm like, I, my business managers, like I always am like, I feel like they'll like see me talk about stuff on podcasts about money and they just like probably get so pissed because I'm just crazy. But I feel like when you spend money, it will come back to you. But it does.

And I can attest to this. I feel like I'm living proof to this. Like I will give so much money. I'm like, oh my, I overpay everyone on purpose. But it always comes back. I swear it does. And I'll talk about it. And like good faith almost, you know? Always. Like good karma. Always. It always does. Like tipping people like 40%. I'm like,, but it always comes back. I swear it does. And I'll talk about it. And like good faith almost, you know?

Always. Like good karma. Always. It always does. Like tipping people like 40%. I'm like, it's going to come back. And it really does. And I've always been like that even before I like had money.

And I feel like it really does come back. I don't know how. I was a miracle. I make money. And then I'm always like, wow, it comes back like tenfold. It does. I believe in that 100%. I believe that's like such a, but you have to like think it and feel it and not be scared

to like spend it because it's a flow, you know? It is a flow. I never get into like dangerous territory like I'm never like dropping like crazy money that I don't have to spend oh right like credit card debt or anything like that I had an era of that and then I learned real fast and I ever since then I'm pretty care I'm like pretty careful now what was the what was the danger zone was it credit card debt or what was it I just like I had a business credit card or a credit card and I just didn't I'd never had one before and I was like 25 26 25 probably which is like too old to like not know how to use a credit card well I didn't know either yeah it's like when you grow up with like a poor family and like

you're around financially irresponsible people like it is like in my soul so I was just like spending on I'm like oh whatever put on my credit card hotels clothes all different clothes the essence cart purchase and um at the end of the year and like I would be like oh like I would justify everything by like oh wear this on tour I could use this for this music video it's a write-off I could do yeah it's a write-off it's a write-off it's a write-off and it's like you still have to pay for it it's like that shit's Greek one he's like yeah he's like who pays it off he's like or he's like who pays for it he's like they don't they write it off like it's like such a it's like a thing and I was like yeah literally that is me yeah well you're lucky you had like

I think what happened with me is when I was 18 I opened up like three credit cards for $500 and then I just like never paid them so I was never able to get anything more than $500 on a credit card. So I think it saved me. Otherwise I probably would have spent, I don't know. I don't know what yours was, but like when people have like $30,000 in their credit, it's like, wow, bougie. That's a lot of credit. They make ones that don't have limits at all. That's crazy. They make ones that don't have limits at all. I could go buy an airplane that I can't afford. Wait, how do you get those? I want it. I don't know. There's like. You have to pay them off? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.

You have to pay them off. I think that you get like the limit, the limitless one. Isn't that, that's like the American Express, like the black card. Oh, is that real? Yeah, people have black cards. Have you seen it? I've never seen one. That would turn me on.

I'd be like, wow, look at that black card. And it like dinks. They're like made of metal. So it like dinks when you throw it on the table. I want that. I probably can't. I still have, for some reason I still have horrible credit. I don't know if it's from like my three credit cards when i was 18

years old and this is like never but i've always had like bad credit now it's like better but the credit system i'm like the credit system in america is a scam like straight up but it is because it's like it takes so long to get your credit back good again yeah it's like well how am i supposed to like get my life together and like get an apartment and do all this stuff you're just gonna job yeah yeah i did a net. Do you know those like those speedy cash loans? I did one of those. I took one out for like $3,000. And when we bought this house, I still had, I still owed on it. It was from like 10 years prior. I was making like $200 a month or whatever like that. I think in total it was a $3,000 loan. I think I had paid back like $54,000 for real.

Oh. And it's either, it was either net credit or speedy cash or one of those. But total, I had a $3,000 loan and a $7,000. In total, I owed like $54,000. But I was slowly paying like $150 for the rest of my life. Oh my God! I had no idea. But I remember I'd go to a speedy cash place and they would give me like $3,000 cash. I'm like, yes. Yeah, I was bad with money too.

Damn. You and your beau sister. Yeah. You know, it's like until you need to be financially responsible as long as you can like you know have a roof over your head you have a little savings absolutely you know that's how i feel and no debt like you said the credit card debt is bad but that's the danger zone yeah like if i have food on the table i'm so i don't even need to be like a multi millionaire one day like i'm like i'm so chill with like carrie bradshaw life in a one-bedroom apartment with like fabulous clothes that's like all I want that's kind of the dream especially like in LA and stuff like that it's

kind of like and yeah getting to do what you like to do for work you know which is what you do which is everything did you get paid from when you were on SoundCloud no no that was all just like out into the internet yeah and is it still like that for SoundCloud people for SoundCloud I think so I don't know if you get royalties from SoundCloud but when you upload through like um things like DistroKid or whatever you can like put your music out or there's like tune core stem or like whatever but it like you get money from like spotify streams not like a whole lot but you do get paid yeah i always feel like that like do you i always talk about this i always buy music from artists because i always thought like they never got paid for i just saw this on

where you buy it all on itunes yes i buy everyone's i buy all yours on itunes like that's just like i don't know. I feel like it goes towards the artist. It does. It's, I feel like you get, when someone buys music on iTunes, it definitely is like you get more,

that's like, you know, you get like more from that than like a stream. Streams you get nothing I feel. I'm big on the iTunes thing. I recently have discovered the love for iPods again.

I've been using iPods and you have to be so intentional with the music you buy on iTunes. It's not just like, it's like fast food with streaming where it's like, I don't want access to all of it all the time. Like sometimes I want this Black Eyed Peas album

and this like old, like, I don't know, like Hank Williams country music. Yeah. And I want like, whatever. And there's a limited space.

You pick your fave. There's limited space. So you got that. You got your Gwen Stefani. You put like your favorite hits. Yeah. And yeah. I think that too I was like I just want this one song like you said I don't need the he has like YouTube music or something and I'm just like I was like my one song and I replay it over and over right now I'm listening like Zac Efron the greatest showman you know so I just like replay that song over and over you know what I mean

I get really into like one thing and then become obsessed over it. Fixations. Oh, man. Do you have any current? I need to send you a blinged iPod. Oh, my God. I would love it. I'm going to have you bling everything. I'm like, can you bling this, this, and this? I literally would.

I love it. It's my favorite hobby. I love it. I have an iPod. I recently bought one. I bought a green one off eBay. Nice. And I'm like, that would be so cool.

Okay, I'll give it to you. Yeah, I'll bling it out. I'll check it out for you. Yeah, come by. I wish I could bling because I have so many bling things. I'm just like not patient like that at all. It's hard. Also, the chemicals from the glue are really like toxic.

So especially with like babies and stuff, I wouldn't get into that. Do you get like high? Are you like, ooh. I don't get high. I wear like a mask when I do it for the most part. But I just know I'm like, I'm missing some brain cells for sure. It's like cancerous. Like it's like bad.

Wait, really? Yeah, E6000 glue. Wait, really? But when it dries, it's fine? When it dries, it's fully fine. But when you're using it and it's like bad wait really yeah he's 6 000 glue wait really yeah but when it dries it's fine it's when it dries it's fully fine but when you're using it and it's and it's wet because i remember i was i was posting on my instagram story that i was like doing this like rhinestoning like side projects and i had this drag queen dm'd me and they're like girl open your window and wear a mask like that stuff is really toxic and i went what oh thank god it's really toxic and i had no

idea i was just like passed out no literally i was, why do I get so lightheaded when I do this? Oh, my God. You felt it. Yeah. Oh, my. Well, thank God for that drag queen. Oh, my gosh. She saved your life.

She saved me. Oh, my gosh. That's crazy. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. The fumes. Because I actually like toxic smells. Like, I love gasoline.

Me too. Yeah. I love, like, the nail salon. Like, I love. But you always see, even before COVID, they were wearing those masks. And I was like. He always says that when I go. He's like, I don't know if you should be like inhaling that stuff because I used to get

the acrylics and I was like yeah the powder it smells so good like no it does toxic smells are just nail salon smell is a great smell it's so good also like hair dye and like bleach like I love the smell of hair oh my god bleach is like me do you bleach yourself or do you go somewhere no I go I go somewhere my friend John yeah I miss the bleach of it all when I used to work at a hair salon my hair was even blonder than it is when i used to work at a hair salon my hair was even blonder than it is right now but i worked at this hair salon and i would get my hair done for free because i was the receptionist so all these ladies it was like de pair missouri like the suburbs but it was like not like they weren't like you know like they were great but it was just

like my hair was like like it was like constant i would get the smallest root and i would get my roots done so it was just like bleach bleach blonde every week yeah drunk falling asleep in my extensions i had like no hair in the back i still kind of have that like chemical cut vibe but it's actually so healthy when you said this is your real hair i was like oh my god mine i have pictures it was like a half inch my whole hair like it was just like broken all the time because i get styled so when you perform are you gonna get styled all the time i style it myself for the most part but i'll usually like i'll put like a wig on myself or i'll do like a wig on myself or I'll do like a ponytail like extension.

Okay. So you don't have to like put too much damage on it. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I do wigs now. I used to like be anti-wig, but even now I don't, I don't bleed. Oh, I have the like highlights, but it saved my hair so much. I was just like.

Yeah. It's just safer. Yeah. But yours actually looks so great for it. Yeah. And I miss the bleach. Oh my God. It's good.

It's like Chrissy from Three's Company too. Oh yeah. It's just such a cool vibe I know I might do uh I might go pink soon though but pink is cool the picture that I saw with your pink hair I was like oh she looks so cool yeah I was inspired by like Snooki hair with like the rat's nest I feel like the rat's nest is gonna be really in like so cool intentional rat's nest yeah we couldn't figure it out today he's like I don't know if it's a bun I'm like no you were killed it that's exactly what it's like it's just like a teased mess and it's like a clip yeah it's so hard i was like oh my god to find that like perfect messy bun it is coming back megan fox with her pink hair and she had like the messy bun and just looks so cool yeah i feel like you're

on top of those trends like that thank you fashion too you said you were like a fashion girl you like all this whole thing like do you style this yourself yeah i just kind of wear what i love i like stylist i do have a stylist who does like my photo shoots and stuff but like for every day yeah just every day when I'm walking around I just kind of like I love old western wear I love kind of like hardware and like stuff with spikes like punk rock but I'm not like a punk rocker but I love that kind of stuff you give me vibes like that I Nancy a little bit yeah yeah I mean I love the music and I feel like like my one of my exes was really into punk music and he would bring me to shows and all this stuff.

And I love the culture and I love leather jackets and motorcycle men and all that. But everyone's really gatekeepy about posers and stuff. So I don't know if I can. I would never be like, I'm punk. Because everyone would be like, no, you're not. Oh, yeah, for sure. I love to be emo for a minute. But I only like my chemical romance.

Someone call me up. Like, you don't even know anyone else besides them. I'm like, that's OK. So what? I like to be emo. a minute but I only like my chemical romance someone call me up like you don't even know anyone else besides I'm like that's okay so what I like to be emo and I like I do like a punk scene too like I was yeah there was a minute but I'll get all I know is like sex pistols and if you say that to a punk fan they're like oh that's all you know my god whatever but I was like they're cool though no I feel like I I listen to like I listen to like a fair amount and like I know bands like from my ex or just like stuff not even from him just growing up like you know like everyone knows like sex pististols at the Clash. Right.

Like it's not, it's so funny when people try to gatekeep stuff that's like super famous. I know. You're like, what? I never understood it until that it becomes something you love. Yeah. Like when the Elvis movie came out, I was like, this was my thing. And now everyone's like, we love Elvis. I was like, no, stop it.

You're like, not like I love Elvis. Right. But then Priscilla came out and was like, we hate Elvis. I'm like, well, you know, I still like Elvis. Yeah. You're like, good. Go on now. Because then when it happens to stuff you like and it becomes mainstream, you're like, oh, damn it. Yeah. That's how I feel. You know,

I feel like that's going to be you. All your fans, once you become mainstream, they're going to be like, no, like it was our thing because you are mainstream. But you know what I mean? Once you're on SNL. Not like mainstream mainstream, though. I feel like once you become that where you're like playing the Sophie and then people are like, no, like, yeah, I hear all the time with people like Olivia Rodrigo and stuff like that. You know, she kind of like blew up and now they're like playing the Sophie and so then people are like no like yeah I hear all the time with people like Olivia Rodrigo and stuff like that you know she kind of like blew up and now they're like well we liked her before when she was on High School Musical yeah and I feel like that's gonna be you because you have such a hardcore fan base now yeah and then like I feel like at that point they're like do you think you'll keep your style if you when you become

like that oh yeah I would hope that I would never become an artist who sacrifices like my work for the sake of mainstream success or anything like that. Like I never anytime I make an album, it's like, yeah, I could make the songs more palatable for like radio. But like I don't that doesn't guarantee they'll be on the radio. And like I don't want to make like whack like I want to make cool music, you know. Right. I feel like if I ever got like lucky enough to reach more mainstream success, I would never. No label could tell me what no one in the world can tell me what to do like I'm one of those and I feel like that it's kind of like the appeal of Gaga too like again Gaga was a little bit like after my time but I do feel like she was so out there and different and I feel like that's what people like and I feel like that's what people need now because people do censor themselves

so much and like I guess I get why but it's, God, you want people to be like out there again, you know? Yeah, out there and different and like iconic. Like I feel a lot of it is such a game now and these labels, like all these hit songwriters and these writing camps and like, it's just so much music that has no like, no soul.

Like it has no like grit. There's nothing like cool within it. It's so, everyone, it's conceptual and it's way too radio sounding. Like there's nothing like cool within it it's so everyone it's conceptual and it's way too radio sounding like there's no I don't know like some of my favorite hits from like yesteryear like really odd songs like Hollaback Girl like all the Pharrell production it's like that was music that had like some soul and some like beef in it like I don't know I know I hope that I feel like that's why you are such a success because that is like it's this whole world when I really dived into it.

It's like, oh yeah, this is like this whole niche world that like no one's into, no one's like tapped into and you're like the one. So I think once again, the gays know, you know, they kind of like feel out the stuff and then it becomes like huge. You know, it's like the Jennifer Coolidge, the gays are like Jennifer Coolidge and now she's like huge, you know, you find, but she was there. She was always there and she was always prominent. It's just like, you know, they find it and then, and they found you and they led me to you. And I'm so thankful for it. I'm so thankful

for it. I'm like, Oh my God, when you DM'd me, I literally was like, I thought it was a fake account. I was like, there's no way. I was like, there's no way. I thought the same. When I started really getting into you, I was like, Oh my God, this is like our new Brittany. Like this is really this. And I mean that wholeheartedly. Cause I was like, well, I don't get excited about music or musicians that much just in general. Like I said, I'm just still in the Donny Osmond era. But when I saw you and I saw this, I was like, oh my God, this is like, like I said, not hidden because you're out there. But like for, you know, people, a lot of people like TikTok and all, they just don't know

the amazingness of you. I feel like I can be really self-aware about me and my music and like where I'm at. Like I'm not huge. Like I'm not like a big, I'm not like huge with social numbers. I'm not like, I have like this cult audience cult audience but and I do tour and I feel like the room says as I do are even bigger than people have bigger songs sometimes but it's like I I'm like it's like weird I feel like I'm kind of like um like in this weird like underdog position almost but I like that like I don't want to be no it's gonna blow up so big and it's like the

quality of your fan base that's what you were saying and you know what I say too is like the quality of your fan base is so hardcore for you yeah and I think that's and that's the most amazing thing because it's not like that for everyone you know what I mean they kind of ride or die which I like I feel like there's some artists who have huge streaming numbers like bigger than I could ever imagine but it's like passive listeners like you know moms who throw on like a spotify uh like algorithm playlist they're not really like into what this like artist is right right i feel like all my fans it's like they know what i'm up to they know where i'm at they know what i tweeted last night they are like they see everything yeah and you give them so much with all like your interviews and just who you are as a person and and just the visuals i know you're

just such a different person that's out there, different artist out there. And it's like, it's amazing. And thank you, Stan Twitter, for bringing us together because I was like, I love you so much. I can't wait for, I love you, Jesus. I know, I'm not even, I'm going to hurt you about that. Please, oh, please do. Because I feel like I miss music. Like I miss being creative that way.

And I was like, oh God, it'd be like such iconic. And I just know, like, I'm like, you're so big now, but I just, I really do feel like it will be one day where it's like so huge. And I was like, I remember she was on, but I just, I really do feel like it will be one day where it's like so huge. And I was like, I remember she was on my podcast. No, I'll still be your home girl. Come on now. Please.

Always. I like really appreciate when I see you at SoFi Stadium. I'm going to be like, I knew her. Oh my God. Yeah. I feel like, and I feel like it's just like on the cusp of it because everyone's just like craving something. I don't know if I'll be SoFi Stadium level.

That would be like, that's a little, that's a little too big. I'd like to keep it like um i don't know like what the biggest venue i'd be good at capping the like level you could do sophie stadium i feel like the weekend does it by himself right he doesn't really like yeah but he's like he's got like the biggest songs of all time on streaming i recently discovered him but i feel like you have that same vibe i love the idol i'm bringing this up to everybody but the idol was like i'm like who's this guy he's amazing did you like the show i loved it did you i loved it everyone hated on it i was like this is 80s erotic thriller they're just for no reason i love it i love it too and everyone i say is like

that's how i was introduced i swear my husband i literally had no idea who the person was like this guy is everything i love him and then everyone's like oh it's like the weekend and he's like huge or whatever like that so um he did dm me back once to thank you for the support after asking me my podcast but then i followed up again i'm like but will you be on my podcast but he doesn't do any he's elusive he won't do any interviews with anyone very secretive yeah but i loved the idol i loved you know the pop star dream it's the la fantasy again you know it was good being wild and the sexualness of it all the cult and the drugs and it was it was definitely like a weirdly plotted show like i won't lie the plot was odd in the it wavered episode to episode but overall I was like I love looking at Lily Rose Depp yeah

that's one thing I know for sure I love looking at The Weeknd and I love the random horniness is so it was so like 80s erotic thriller as you're like as you're like in the vocal booth just getting like felt up you're just like yeah she's like and they had like Mike Dean in it it was like such a legendary producer it was just who was he in it mike dean he was he was mike dean in the show oh really i love you know this love when shows do that he's like crazy big producer he did like all kanye stuff and he's like a synth like god and he played himself in it yeah he played himself like what scenes were it do you remember like the studio scenes he was like making the beat oh my i love that you know because I feel like I know every little piece of Idol trivia and I did not know that one.

Really? Mike Dean. Oh my gosh. He's always on Instagram making beats and like playing synths and like smoking so much weed. He smokes. Oh my. Yeah. That's kind of everything.

Well, I know it got canceled, but I'm still hoping for a season two and maybe they'll bring you back for it. Maybe we'll be in it. Oh yeah, we'll be naked. I just want to be naked on a film or TV. That's like my goal in life. Well, just to be in like anything film and TV, but I would love to be naked in it oh yeah we'll be naked i just i always want to be naked on a film or tv that's like my goal in life well just to be in like anything film and tv but i would love to be naked in it i could see you having a like a film like a dawning like i feel like you would have a film vibe soon i would

love if i win the lottery i play the lottery every day and if i win the lottery i would definitely produce a film i would get the guy who was the name harm harmony harmony kareem yeah i'll get him dragged i'm gonna cast you. I want to just be a bit player because I don't think I could carry a film but I think you could carry a film. Oh my god. And we'll do it'll be Idol Showgirls Ask. And maybe the weekend. I think if I won the lottery tonight it's 700 million. Maybe I could get the weekend in it. He probably doesn't need the money but

he can make the songs. He said hi. He messaged back. He said thanks for your support. That's not nothing. That's not nothing and I know it was I feel like that one was him because his team wrote back the second time so i was like i feel like the first time was him yeah that's what i like to believe but i don't know i get i love celebrity just like you and so anytime anybody you hiding anybody dms me back i'm like oh my gosh i can't believe it i get butterflies still especially when people are doing like mainstream stuff like you

and i love you i adore you i can't wait to like get stuff bedazzled together yeah you guys the one and only Slater thank you so much everywhere album star out third album is it coming yes it is I'm making it right now you can do it again throw the country song on there yeah okay country ballad and I love you Jesus remix yes and I'm not kidding I'm gonna ask you about the stems absolutely I have it for you those are one thing that I'm gonna send it to you this is gonna be amazing all right thanks internet for bringing us together. And thank you, Slater, for being here. Shout out to the Cathy girls.

Cathy girls. Bye.