Just Trish - Tana Mongeau EXPOSES Cody Ko & Trisha DEFENDS Tarayummy Amidst Backlash

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

On episode 86 of 'JUST TRISH', Tana Mongeau accidentally sets the Internet on fire after she alleged she slept with Cody Ko when she was just 17 years old--and he was 25. Plus, Trisha defends Tarayummy after the new it-girl gets accused of copying Tana Mongeau. And why are Trisha and Oscar suddenly on team JoJo Siwa?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

. Happy gay month to all the gays. And queers. And queers. Why is it gay pride? It should be queer pride. I think it's just pride. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna say gay pride. Okay. To all the queers. I like queer month. That's better. Queer is a fun word to say too. It is. I love it. It's been reclaimed. Now

it's like a safer term now almost. It doesn't exclude anyone. It doesn't exclude anyone. Kind of everybody falls into queerness. I don't even care if you're like, not me, I'm straight. Right, right. It doesn't exclude anyone. It doesn't exclude anyone. Kind of everybody falls into queerness. I don't even care if you're like, not me, I'm straight. No, I think you fall into the queerness too. You know, but it's fine. It's fine.

We love everyone. We love the allies too. We love everyone. The straights, but I love the queers a little more. But we love everyone. Happy pride.

Happy pride. Not gay pride. Happy pride. Happy pride to you specifically. Can we say, oh no, I'm in the queerness. I keep thinking gay. Okay.

So happy pride to us. Everyone. everyone yeah everyone is kind of in it so we're not labeling anyone here we're all in the umbrella so happy birthday happy birthday my daughter's gonna have to see my birthday she's every morning so that's our little happy birthday thing so our pride outfits today um mine is i don't even know i just i saw taylor's i saw someone posted tay Taylor Swift rainbow outfit, and I thought it was new. And everyone today was like clocking me on TikTok. And they're like, I love her 2019 Taylor lover cosplay. I was like, okay, it's old. I get it.

I thought it was new. And I thought I was going to get this like fresh out outfit. And everyone on TikTok wanted to know if I got the shoes. I did not get the shoes. I looked for them everywhere. They were Stella McCartney shoes. I got these like knockoff ones, though. Oh, those are fierce, though.

Yeah. Someone emailed shoe cam. Someone emailed this to me. I can finally get my feet. They were long as swollen. They returned a shoe cam. They returned a shoe cam. Someone emailed this to me. I can finally get my feet. They were longer swollen. Did you return a shoe cam? My feet are not swollen. I can actually wear shoes. I feel so like put together. I can actually get

my feet up here. Two weeks after a C-section, look at me just flexing my abs. My ab muscles. I think they maybe put abs in there. I feel stronger. I'm on walks now. Maybe they put some in there when they took out the baby. But these are knockoffs. They're from China. They kind of smell bad, but not because they're from China. Just because they came overseas.

And they kind of smell bad. Well, I don't know. They're made cheaply. So that's probably the smell. The plastic. Anyways. Blenciaga smells like that too. So I'm just saying.

And I also have the Birkin bag. The Rainbow Birkin. Ooh. Was that a song you were going to sing to it? Yeah. I was going to. I just. The gayness is really coming out today.

The Rainbow Birkin. The Rainbow Birkin. Ooh. That's historic. It's like the first brick got Stonewall and then the Rainbow. That's historic. It's like the first brick at Stonewall and then the rainbow Birkin. Yeah. Or you put it in gay terms. It's like the first brick at the Medesina Society. Do you know what that is? No. You don't know? I didn't either. I googled it yesterday. My friend Andrew Valentine, shout out Andrew Valentine. He did all 60 of my music

videos. He did this. He did a movie that's called the Medesina Family. I don't know how to pronounce it, but it's such an important word because we talked about it we're like why would he name a movie something you can't pronounce it's like maraschino maraschino anyways it's on the amazon prime it stars juan pablo de pachi from fuller house and it's about a gay couple actually no it's it's about a family right there's like there's like a lesbian couple there's a lesbian raising a kid with a gay man and then there's a two gay couple is the main one and then they're they were like foster parents he lost the foster man and then there's two gay couples, the main one. They were foster parents. He lost the foster kid.

It's a really good movie. It's just about family. It's good for Pride Month too because it's very queer friendly. I don't know. I don't know how to describe it. Queer stories. It's loosely based too on his story because him and his husband, they have a child now. I think it's loosely

based on theirs. His husband wrote it. It's really good. Shout out Danny and Andy. I love them so much. Why was I talking about that? Oh, Mattachina. I don't know how you're saying. I don't know how to pronounce it. But the word is important. It's M-A-T-T-A-C-H-I-N-E. And it's about the Mattachina Society. And in Silver Lake, there's the Mattachina Steps. And I guess the Mattachina Society is the first like group for gay people in the 50s to feel like connected to not feel like homophobic the to fight homophobia ism you know what i mean like it's very that so anyways it's a good movie i watched yesterday just because well because he's my friend i didn't even know it would fit into pride month but it did and i loved it and it was good it was actually really sad spoiler alert but

this but it ends good anyways go watch it um And why am I holding the Birkin talking about this? I don't know. You said first, because Stonewall. The winner gets the Birkin. Oh, and the Mattachino. Right. Okay. No, the winner does not get the Birkin, first of all. There's too much chaos happening.

No, this Birkin, you know what? I was selling it for a million, but I'll do $750 for it. $750K. That's fair. And I'll donate half of that to Pride. It's just Pride. Or to some gay charities. we'll divvy it up half of it because i need the other half i've been working hard and hustling this okay you know what i mean

but um yeah there's the pride brick and how's your outfit what's your outfit today um it's pretty gay i have my little rainbow necklace on i have this little shirt that was from joey graceffa so it's skinny like oh flex such a flex i mean you've been into joey griceffa's shirt i know it's being stretched to the max no no it wasn't it looked so good when you walked in but it's like also i think on him probably fits normal on me it's like a crop i love that though so but that's even more pride-ish you know what i mean yeah i love it i love it yeah and then i just like to the red little jacket. I don't know. I surprisingly didn't have a lot of gay stuff. I was like, I for sure have something gay in my closet.

I just figured. Right. But I was pretty shocked and goop that it was like a lot of. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of like Twilight, Olivia Rodrigo. Yeah. I think that would fit into the pride. Yeah.

It's still gay. Yeah. I think. Right? I think so. I think Twilight's considered queer coded. Yeah. Yeah.

For sure. That. But I figured I should go lean considered queer coded yeah for sure that but I figured I should go lean a little rainbow because I knew that you were doing the yeah the lover

the lover outfit yes I love that we went rainbow I was very excited for it what was my headshot of the day too so I was like let me just go

all out for it I actually have it tied back because I had the person that did the costume do like my measurements from when I was five months pregnant because I was like

okay I'll probably be like five months pregnant but it's like it's so big oh my god so I'm just skinny over here I'll probably be like five months pregnant. But it's like, it's so big. Oh my God. So I'm just skinny over here. I'm eating eggs and grapefruit and walking. I know I love seeing like your little fitness when you do your walks and you have your Apple

Watch. I'm like, that's fierce. Because it didn't happen if it's not online. As we said last week, we didn't even have a baby unless it's been posted online. So I love the rainbow necklace. You just had that in your closet. I got it in Hawaii, I think two years ago. Yeah.

And I knew it would come in handy one day. I know rainbows are ugly 11 months out of the year, but June rainbows are fierce. You have a rainbow behind you. There's some lore behind it, but before we do that, because I know Moses will get uncomfortable in his, not because it's queer, just because it's tight on his neck and he hates it. It is warm. We had the it. And it's warm. Yeah. It is warm. We had the air on to cool it down. Oh, yeah. We wanted to keep the air on.

Anyways, you have, this is a good outfit you picked out today. So you can't have rainbows without the sky, first of all. Oh, okay. Yeah. But below that, there's the Malibu's favorite gay icon. She is. Wow. Teletubbies. Yeah.

She does love the Teletubbies. Yes. She does love the Teletubbies. Do you know the song? Teletubbies. Teletubbies. That was good. Wow. Okay. Yeah.

Pose the icon according to Trixie. Say hello. Yeah. Say yeah. Hello. Uh oh. Teletubbies bye bye. Supposedly the queer one is Twinkie Winkie, but I think some of them are now saying everyone

is because you said they were on the Drag Race. Yeah, they were just on Drag Race All Stars. And they did a little mini challenge with all the queens. And they danced? They danced. Yeah, they did a little breakdown dance. It was wild. Wow, I need to see that.

We live for Teletubbies. Shout out Teletubbies Instagram. They always comment on our stuff. They send us things. Yeah, like literally like there was one post that was kind of out there and they commented. I can't remember what it was. And I was like, okay, Teletubbies commenting on it. They used your sound I think too. Oh yeah, they used the sound.

Teletubbies really likes us. Medibo really does enjoy playing with them. Maybe we can insert the picture of her sitting out the window with all her Teletubbies. She really does love them. I think Dipsy's the icon. The one with the hat. And she's so smart. One day she was trying to tell me, she was like trying to tell me again, again. She wanted to do something again.

And I didn't understand what she was saying. And then she was saying, she calls them Yaya, the Teletubbies. And she's like, Yaya, again, again. So I understand that she's saying it because he says again, again. Yeah, they go again, again. So if you don't understand what I'm saying, that's what Yaya says, again, again. So she's so smart at like trying to get. Because she would say more if she wants it.

She does the sign language because she's just smart. I don't even know where she learned the sign language. But she goes more or like, please, thank you. Like she knows all the sign language. She goes more. I don't know how. Maybe it's Coco or something. Do they do it?

Someone does it. Someone, Coco Mello. But she, yeah, she loves the Teletubbies and the again, again is them. She would do more but she goes again again yeah and she does the big hugs and teletevies are icons in every single way we just love them and i love i mean they could also be allies they don't all have to be queer i guess they could be allies i'm not gonna put it on them but i love that they're not afraid to do that too miss rachel was getting canceled for wanting to collaborate with dylan malvini and i'm like people

need to chill okay people need to chill everyone gets, people need to chill. Everyone gets so worked up. I'm like. You need to calm down. Oh, is that this outfit that I'm wearing? Yeah. Is it? Did she sing it in this? Yeah.

You need to calm. Is that? Oh, because that video was, that video was super gay. It's also gay. It was her gay era. Yeah. It was her gay influencer era. Yeah.

I'm surprised Trace Vaughn wasn't in it. I feel like that was the era he would have been in it. He did perform at her concert. Really? I think like twice. Like open or? Like they did a collab. They like sang together.

Oh my God. I know. She really is the gay icon probably. Taylor Swift, right? Or no? I think she had like a queer era. Now she's kind of for everyone. I think Donald Trump today was saying how much he likes Taylor Swift, which is, you

know. Oh no. I know. Everyone's getting in on her. So now I think she's just for just about everyone. But in 2019, she was very for the gays. I like people who are just for the gays sometimes, like Slater or something. Yeah, a Charlie XCX, a Troy Smollin.

She's kind of becoming mainstream, though. Charlie? Yeah. She's one of my hot topics today, actually. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't even hear anything. OK, we have a lot to talk about. But before we do, let's get into the lore of this, too.

Do you know what it's from? I feel like you should know. I feel like you know the lore of me, but if you don I didn't even hear anything. Okay, we have a lot to talk about. But before we do, let's get into the lore of this. Do you know what it's from? I feel like you should know. I feel like you know the lore of me, but if you don't, maybe you don't. No, wait. Is this- What? Was that episode air? Did that episode air?

Oh, TTT. It did not air. I think that episode did not air. So no one knows. Do you know? Were you going to say something? From the podcast? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Oversharing. Dun, dun, dun. Not gay icon because it was normally black right the sequins right so we okay so yes so we had like a black

curtain with the black like hanging downs from Amazon kind of like our pink one over there that we do our Patreon on and this was for the rainbow backdrop it was for the sides we had the rainbow right yeah because I had to I had to put wings on the side because the camera you know was too white for the individual shot so i had like wings and i would change those according to so this must

have been exactly a year ago yeah that we did the prime episode that never aired so i got this fabric yeah and it was uh it was pretty it's two pieces with i cut it to two and each wing had one it looked so pretty and i'm so happy we get to use it again yeah it was really it was actually iconic because in the oh that's what it was we did ariel and ursula so the behind us were the blue hanging down to be like the ocean and then the side was pride and it was gonna be a really wonderful episode actually it wasn't i look back it's kind of trash actually like honestly what did we even like literally we talked about c-sections for the fifth time and i mean great love it but also like not not gay pride either i was like or pride sorry i keep saying sorry i think of gays but it was it was a mess but anyways we get to reuse it now and hopefully this won't be the homies won't be an unaired episode

when this comes out it won't be cursed yeah that was during pride i was so excited too damn that really that sucks oh my god it's almost the one year anniversary of all that happening huh the i think toxic gossiping and all that that's crazy i know i was just saying moses i don't want to be in the drama but i'm just saying like i wish there was like another big drama like that for the summer that we could cover but it has nothing to do with exactly yeah because what a time that would have been right like if i wasn't involved to just like really analyze everything coming out because it is is exciting. I get why people like drama, right? Because like we have lives that are just like walking and eating lunch or whatever.

Like, you know, I say boring, but what is it? It's not boring. Peace, what is it? Non-drama. Yeah, peaceful. Peaceful. It's just like peaceful. Nothing's happening and it's great.

But it's kind of fun to like go online and just see like, ooh, like I'd love to be like, ooh, look at this or this. You know what I mean? And it's kind of fun. If it's not like too serious. That was serious. But then like could you imagine

but then the song was so unserious that it was like everyone had like a key over it like yeah if like Peeta D came out and was like ukulele apology

like that'd be wild I don't know to dissect it on anyways that was wild it was bad it was a bad summer but at the same time

looking back there was some some moments yeah some like laughable moments you know that was wild but yeah I get it It was bad. It was a bad summer. But at the same time, looking back, there was some moments. Yeah. Some like laughable moments, you know. That was wild. But yeah, I get it because it's like, it's just seeing all the updates, you know, like you open Square and there was like a new meme or whatever, like a new take, new information

coming out. It's like, oh my God. It's just like, it gives you something to like dive into, you know. Like, oh, wake up. This is happening. Yeah. That was, it was a wild wild time I guess like when you're involved in it it's like different it's like so anxious because like what else is gonna come out

and you're just like waiting for that like other shoe to drop and then it did and then you're like waiting for another shoe to drop and you're just like oh my gosh like it was a lot because I really was like not trying to be involved that was literally that was the origin of my villain story I feel because like literally I was like no drama for like two years. I was like, I am never talking about anyone again. Like I don't like it, whatever. And then like that happened and it kind of opened up the floodgates. You know what I mean? Like Just Trish had to start because one, I had all this podcast equipment.

Gotta do something with it. Yeah. So then I called you and I was like, I don't know. I don't want to do drama. And then boom, the first one out. I was like Ariana Grande, Ethan Slater, just all this. I was like, you know what? F it.

I'm good at this. Wendy's retired. They need someone new. You know what I mean? Yeah. So anyways, I feel like now we're what? F it. I'm good at this. Wendy's retired. They need someone new. You know what I mean? So anyways, I feel like now we're like in a good balance though. It's just fun. Yeah. It's not serious.

It's like gossiping is just fun sometimes. Like when you're not that invested, it's not really your life, you know? And it's like, we're just, you know, having a key. That's all it really is. It never is that serious. Like there's not a new drop and I'm like on TikTok being like what the hell. I can wait a week you know to get the gossip and to you know just relax about it

you know. I think anyways. But we don't have any sponsors today and we also don't have a new headshot but the headshots are shipped out this week. Go to patreon.com slash just Trish. Patreon.com slash just Trish. This will be your headshot next month along with the Birkin Trish Modi sticker. Oh my god. Okay we along with the Birkin Trishmody sticker.

Oh, my God. Okay, we have the new – oh, okay. I don't know where to go from – anyways, let's finish the Patreon. Shout out. We posted – I saw – this was my anti-climactic news. I'm like, we're going to wait. And you were like, I have good news. And I was like, oh, my God.

Mine is just like you got the Guitar Hero up. Yeah, the Fortnite festival. Yes. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. I'm so impressed. I didn't watch it, but I'm so impressed that you were able to do it because I know there was like audio issue. I don't even know what happened but I know we I mean we were in our experimental gaming era for like one day with Callie that was literally in March though

I was like looking for the footage and then I could not find it look I knew you would have it on your pink laptop though because you only use it that one time I'm like it has to be on there yeah thank god um but it was a little chaotic but luckily like you were singing the song so i could sync up the songs to your singing and get it like perfect so thank god yeah and then it got me thinking i was like i almost want you for maybe for season two to have like the kelly clarkson like her kelly oaky oh just like the enemy show singing cover a different song that's my dream absolutely whatever. Whatever Kelly Clarkson covers that week, I will too. I would live.

Oh, yeah. I kind of feel like Kelly Clarkson, like before her weight loss. She had the bangs. She had the little like extra suit on her. You know what I mean? Like I feel like that's me right now. But don't worry. I'm going to get to Kelly Clarkson now.

I'm on my fitness hair. Actually, when you texted us, we were like walking. We were on a fitness journey. So we didn't get home until like noon or something. And there's a whole thing but um yeah that's up and then we have one more do we have their wendy's dreamsicle oh yeah we have wendy's dreamsicle and then we have to continue drama get in it's everyone's waiting for that one yeah we should plan that day to get in for sure because we got a lot to cover there i think there's still like three videos in the part three of the Dramageddon saga.

The next one is the Tati Clapback a Year Later. It's the Tati Clapback a Year Later. No More Lies? Or Breaking My Silence? One of those. Breaking My Silence. Breaking My Silence.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm so excited. Part two was so crazy. It almost has like a thousand likes on our Patreon. People like live for it. The comments are so funny. Everyone's been waiting.

I've been waiting too. Like everything we post is like where is Dramageddon? And I feel like now it'll be even more indirect. Last time we did it I was like a week before giving birth and I was like so tired of this. I'm like I'm so ready for it. I'm so excited. Everyone's been waiting. Every, like, everything we post is like, where is Dramageddon? And I feel like now I'm even more undirected. Last time we did it, I was like a week before giving birth and I was like so tired of this. I'm like, I'm so ready for it. Yes.

Let's plan a day. We'll do the Triple Berry Wendy's. Oh, tea. Yes. See if they have the bucket. Someone told us they have the bucket now. I went. They said they didn't.

Oh, and they have those saucy nuggets, which I know you probably wouldn't like, but I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued by the saucy nuggets. So we should do the Wendy's, Triple Berry, the saucy nuggets, and then we'll go and do the drama get in. Yeah. So this week is pretty open for us. Drama get in part two was great.

It's been so long since we did it. It's only been like a few weeks, but it seems like a long time ago. It does feel longer. That was wild. There's so much. Go look at it at Patreon. Patreon.com slash Jess Trish. We do the extended podcast for you guys.

We have a bonus episode on Saturdays, and then we have the headshot of the month, the stickers of the month. And I accidentally discovered a new feature on Patreon because I was trying to tell everyone it was going to be a day late. So I was like, the bonus is going to be a day late. And I went to figure out how to tell everyone and I accidentally started a live chat and it reminded me of

AIM, like the chat rooms. Everyone got a notification and then we were just talking in there. So maybe we could do that one day. Wait, really? Yeah, we could just have a little chat room. Just typing? Just typing. It was so fun. Okay, that's day really yeah we could just have a little chat room just typing it was so fun okay that's fun yeah i love that i was just trying to let everyone know that it was gonna be a day late and then everyone just started like keying and i was like oh let's oh that would be so fun okay now that i know that's great yeah so we can do that it confused me a little bit that's why i have you at my sister helping me because i'm kind of

confused like how it like works i just i like have ideas for it and whatever, but that would be fun. Yeah, we could schedule little live chats or something. Like a Discord? Is that what it is kind of? Kind of, yeah.

It literally reminds me of like AIM, like those chat room days. I never did the chat room. You didn't? I was scared. I always thought like some like 50-year-old man

was going to come and kidnap me out of my bedroom. I mean, Tia, which very, very Tia. Yeah, it's not like all the Lifetime movies

is like ASL or something. Yeah, and I was like like that's so scary and then they meet up and he's like oh I didn't think you would meet up with me if I told you my real age and then she has to like escape out of the is that a Degrassi episode I probably I feel like I saw a clip okay and she like hides in the bathroom

and he's like hey come out it's okay that is tea and then he's like I'm gonna leave and you come out and he like he opens the door and shuts it and then she gets out of the bathroom and he's there and he like grabs her I think it's I don't know I've never seen Degrass. And he opens the door and shuts it. And then she gets out of the bathroom. And he's there. And he grabs her. I don't know. I've never seen Degrassi. I just see clips on TikTok. Yeah.

It sounds very Degrassi-coded, for sure. Because they've covered the gambit on that program. It shocks me that you weren't a chatroom girl. Because you were so like, you're sending letters to old celebrities and stuff. Well, I had celebrities I was saying. Yeah. I'm like, OK. If they're old celebrities, if they kidnap me, at least I'll be a story.

If it's just some random guy down the street, that's just a headline that disappears you know what i mean not that i mean it's all sad that's why i don't like that yeah that's a horrible but i was definitely a little chat room boy oh yeah do you like about your age i don't think maybe i don't think so i can't really remember i do remember some like creepy like moments though for sure where people like do they see your they don't know where you send pictures no but they would like ask to talk sometimes and i remember one was like um like i was little like i was definitely was little and it got like weirdly sexual it's like oh like does your dad know you're talking to me or stuff like that so they knew your age i yeah and also i probably sounded like a little boy or a little girl no but they i mean that's disgusting that's what they like is like the

catch-up editor is they know their age yeah like we'll say don't tell anyone we'll get in trouble because like even in real life it would be like that like i would actually just talk to like 50 year old men in real life when i was 12 and they're like oh my god don't tell anybody like we couldn't be friends when you think about like uh when you actually think about that stuff it is actually so yeah and how many people are like that in those chat rooms make it so easy i'm glad now we do have like degrassi and lifetime movies so you can, like, warn the little, like, people, like, what has happened. Yeah. And, like, we all grew up with that.

So then we grew up, we become parents, then now we're, like, very much, like... Not on chat ever. Like, no social media, no chat, nothing until she's, like, 16

or something like that. Yeah. Maybe 18, I don't know. I think even... I saw, like, a random, like, headline that, like, with Chrissy Teigen, I know she's a hot...

You know, she triggers some people, but she did say, like, with her kids... What were you gonna say? Hot what? I was, like, hot topic, but that was, but she did say like with her kids what were you gonna say hot what I was like hot topic but that was like two weeks ago

I was like what yeah me on the pride episode saying Chrissy Teigen a hot piece of ass yeah it sounded like you were like wait maybe I should like

tone it down she was a hot topic with Callie I remember that episode you guys a hot topic yes okay but it's like

maybe hot take or I don't know yeah yeah yeah she triggers some people. Some people don't like her. But she did say like she's waiting until her kids are like 18 or after they graduate high school for them to have social media. And honestly, I get it.

Like it's brutal out there. It's crazy. Oh, yeah, yeah. And people are just weird. And the access to people. Like if I would have had like social media as a teen – oh, because you were a little younger than me too. Because I was like – I think the chats were like later on. Maybe there wasol when i was i just didn't know maybe we didn't have wi-fi

because i don't know i can't remember but i feel like it was still like the dial-up days like yeah the chat room so it was like yeah maybe we just didn't have it or something like that but if i would have access i would have been like wild and for sure yeah i was like writing hand like you said handwriting notes to people so i don't know what do i know but yeah be careful out there that is like so scary actually yeah i'm glad those aren't really like a thing anymore and granted there's like million other freaking plot like discord and everything else too but yeah at least I think there's more awareness of like stranger danger and all that yeah because I'm telling you the person you're talking to online is not the person talking online like especially if you can't see them if they're

anonymous if they're not if they can't put their webcam on or something and like shows like catfish I think there's just so much more like media documenting that stuff so i think there's just like more catfish is wild i'm like are these people that dumb no offense but like you'd be so dumb they're like especially after the show like is the thing like maybe before the show or like remember there was a movie first like right right so it was about neb being catfish yeah so like after like catfish became a thing i feel like you should know about catfishes yeah right right like yeah maybe if they're if they can't face time if you can't show their face like there's so many people i know and i'm

just like if you're not seeing their face why would you believe that that's a real person anyways i guess it can happen to the best of us but i don't know no one's catfishing me that's for sure but speaking of wait was it uh there was something else I was talking about. The Patreon. We were talking about – did you get the intro? What? No. I don't think so.

The new intro? I haven't checked my email today though. Oh my god. I don't know if we should like – I kind of want to put it out now. Why not? Because I know we're waiting for season two. But I mean it's kind of exciting. I want you to see it.

Do you want to check? Should I watch it now? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I thought maybe you might wait to watch it because I know you wanted to be surprised. I don't know if it's that exciting. It's exciting to me but maybe it's kind of exciting. I want you to see it. Do you want to check? Should I watch it now? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I thought maybe you might wait to watch it because I know you wanted to be surprised. I don't know if it's that exciting. It's exciting to me, but maybe it's not that exciting.

It is. It's very exciting. Okay. I want to show you. I think it's done. I think it's ready to put up. Shout out Jeremy for doing this song, Jeremy and Connor. He didn't show me.

So the sound. I think it's synced up. And I think Lou Izzle, who did the animation, I think he kind of synced a little bit more of it too. So I think it's all synced up perfect. So we're not using the intro at the beginning of the show. Now we're going to show you guys the intro that's going to be... Oh, it's the debut.

From now on. Oh, the premiere? Okay. So next week we can start using it? Yeah, when we do the two Hot Topics a week. Okay, okay, okay. So this is the premiere. So now, it's in this premiere video.

Okay, you can have TV and text. Five, four, three, two, one. Okay. Yeah. Love that. Okay. So we're going to be doing, well, you kind of just spilled the beans that we're doing two hot topics a week.

But I guess that's an announcement. We've been talking about it for so long. No, not on camera, have we? Last week you did. Okay. Are people excited? I didn't see anyone say anything about it. No, we're doing two hot topics a week because we ran out of people to ask to be on the show.

No, we might get Austin Butler on. I think that might be. I told my agents, I'm like, I want Austin Butler. I want Zendaya. I want, I think Zendaya is a possibility. I feel like she's cool. I feel like she would be. Nicola,

she's doing press right now. She'd be a slay. I would love her. So I had a list. list i kind of forgot people i think zach efron i put on the list yeah yeah that's work yeah he's in that netflix movie coming out so he'll be yeah we talked about that family affair we love his brother's going on traders maybe we can ask about it um so anyways we're open to more guests too obviously but i mean that's just what we have but this is really what the audience have been asking for. They want two Hot Topics a week. And then if we feel that we can give you a guest that's better than the Hot Topic a week,

then we'll come back. Which all the guests have been superb. But I'm just saying we don't know anybody else. So if you want to DM me or something. I literally run out of people. So that's what I was like. And it was stressful. I was like, I can't find people and blah, blah, blah.

But yeah, we're going to do Hot Topics a week. Be fresher, be funner. We film on a Monday to air on Tuesday. But things start breaking on Tuesday. And so then we can go do the Wednesday. Maybe it's a little shorter. Maybe it's – I don't know. Maybe we have a special guest.

But yeah, we're going to go to two Hot Topics. We have one final guest this week. Well, not final guest. But one guest before we do it. And that's Moses for Father's Day. So yeah, we filmed that last week. We're always so chill. Every time we do that, I feel like I'm falling asleep in a good way.

Like it's meditative. Yeah, it's more – it's almost like, you know, our story time for the birth. Yeah. Also, it's chill because, hey, we don't sleep much at night right now. We don't sleep much. Yeah. So we're just like – We were very –

That was our little date. Yeah. Anyways, so that's coming up this week. And then we'll go into our two hot topics. So we have a new – we have a new intro. This is by Lou Izzle who does my Trish emojis. I like love him so much. I thought you guys

were like friends but you said no. Someone just showed you his arms. I love that. He slays all day. The intro music is by Jeremy and Connor, my sad boy band members

and also pride. Jeremy is pride. He's part of the pride movement. He was literally priding while he was working on this. He was. That's why we couldn't get the music because he was like, I lost my voice during pride. And it's always something with him.

He loves to party in WeHo. And who doesn't really? So anyways, okay, so that's the intro and I'm excited. Okay, go. Okay, here we go. Five, four, three, two. One, two. Her name is Trish. She's very professional.

A girl so filthy rich. Pretty and pretty. Cops are pretty queen. And that's what everybody thinks. She's just Trish. Yay! It's so cute. okay oh my god oh my god that little jingle is so good they snap they did snap oh my god okay hot topic queen says the music that says that everyone and me she's just Sabrina Carpenter

could never that's the catchy song she's just Trish yeah he's like do you want to come record this

I'm like no you just do it maybe one day I'll record it but I was like I can't right now yeah Trish is Trish

yeah that's our new little intro manifesting the pink cyber truck and then I had your did you like your little animation yeah it was so cute I looked skinny that's what I little intro manifesting the pink cyber truck and then i had your did you like your little animation so cute i looked skinny that's what i said i was like okay skinny queen i live with a little otter that is so sweet manifesting emmy for just trish too we love that well i think a good timing because they're gonna start um including like digital

programs how do we get on it how do we get it? I think we can submit ourselves next year maybe. Love it. Because the, like the chicken shop day in that hot one show are like trying to get nominated. We could beat them. Yeah. Easily.

We could run against them. Yeah, for sure. We gotta launch a campaign next. Could you imagine if we won? I think that it really is just run, it's really favoritism at that point if we beat them. But I feel like we could beat them as popularity contests. Like if there's people at the Emmys working, like the U's of the world, right? And you're at the Emmys working. It's like, that's if we beat them. Because I feel like we could beat them as popularity contests. Like if there's people at the Emmys working,

like the U's of the world, right? And you're at the Emmys working. It's like, that's who we need. And then just like Trish wins. You know what I mean? Because I think there are. There's so many people that are kind of like high key, low key fans or whatever.

And they're working at these big positions now. And they're like, we need Trish. And I think that's why I'm rising a little bit. Because now finally, all my little fans, they're in these power positions now. And they're like, we know Trish. You know what I mean? And that's what I love. I mean why I'm rising a little bit because now finally all my little fans, they're in these power positions now. And they're like, we know Trish. You know what I mean? And that's what I love.

I mean, I'm old, but I'm like, I love that now because you're a queen. Or a lot of the people on Power Up have kids, you know? Because even like the guy who runs like production at E.T., he's like the straightest like man ever. And like I've known him since I interned there and I've always like annoyed him. And he never really comes up to me. He's hey oscar um that show that you do like my daughter's a fan can i bring her and like come talk to you and i was like okay no way did you meet her yeah she came just to gab she was asking about you and tana and brooke she's like no way oh my isn't that so cool it did make me feel cool i was like wow especially because like i'm so

low-key about everything there because i thought i was gonna get in trouble when i first started doing the podcast i was like i'm just not gonna tell anyone uh but then now they all know and now they like want to use me yeah i was gonna say et had the the photos they had them ready when my birth announcement i was like yes and they looked good they look good i was like these look good these look like an oscar edit yes t i was like these are the And they looked good. They looked good. I was like, these look good. These look like an Oscar edit. Yes, T. I was like, these are the photos you guys need to use. I loved it. They were good. They were wonderful. They had the best headline, Elvis has left the womb.

I was like, that's... Oh, that was me. That was so good. See, that's what I'm saying. When the good people get in the creative mode, they have the headlines. You know. You're like, okay, yeah. They know what's up. That was good. Because all the other ones, like, AXS, ELS, at least there's like oh trisha welcome but this is like elvis iconic it was so good and i loved it so we love we love the connection are we would i hmm is that

nepotism if i'm like can i host et would that be nepo because i know you is that nepotism i think that's just networking okay yeah i know this person so et let me host one time both of us let's just host like one thing i don't know go to the red carpet or something yeah for something yeah but we both have to dress up you can't wear black because you said like some people can only wear black yeah like for the big events like the oscars or whatever like if you're working behind the scenes like not on camera you have to wear like a black suit like a black tux or whatever we need to dress up yeah we need to go and dress up and et E.T. can make that happen. I see you with the bling microphone, E.T.

You probably did it before me. But I don't know. I feel like I've had a bling microphone for a decade now. But anyways, neither here nor there. We love E.T. But yeah, that's our new intro. And then Moe's also in it. He's wearing the iconic Tana I Heart Trisha Paytas shirt.

That should be our merch. I love that I just gave these instructions to him. I'm like, how is Moe's wearing an I Heart Trisha Paytas shirt? You have a vision merch. I love that I just gave these instructions to him. I'm like, how did Moses wear an I Heart Trisha Paytas shirt? You had a vision. I had a vision. I was like, what could his thing be? Are you holding water? Is there anything else you're doing in that little cartoon or no?

Or are you just waving? There is something. I'm trying to remember. Was it? I think it's. I have to see it. Maybe it's a Just Trish cup. I don't know.

Are you holding something? Yeah, okay. Oh, we have the Just Trish cup. We have the nuggets now. When I'm driving inside the burger, we have the spicy nuggets. Like, there's little, you know. Easter eggs. Yeah, Easter eggs throughout. So, it's changed Just Trish Cup. We have the nuggets now. When I'm driving inside the burger, we have the spicy nuggets. Like, there's little, you know. Easter eggs. Yeah, Easter eggs throughout.

So it's changed up a little bit. We have a theme song, you know, sung by everybody. So we love it. And we'll always have a little pride in that jingle. You know what I mean? And, like, pride as in proud. Not the gay part. Just the proudness of it.

I love it. I think it's cute. That's our new jingle. Because it's Just Trish and Oscar and Moses. It's a big a big but we always are like why is it called just trish i don't know because that's what it's called i remember when we were like talking about the name before it started and i was oh yeah because like you we were running through a couple but like that's the first one you thought of and then i had the dream i had i told you i was like i had a dream that you had merch that said just trish i'm like i think you gotta name it just trish

oh yeah that's right yeah okay it's happening now you're right because i think it was also called I had a dream that you had merch that said Just Trish. I'm like, I think you got to name it Just Trish. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Okay. It's happening now. You're right. Because I think it was also called like, they had one that was like only Trish. It was always Trish.

Was there anything besides Trish? Do you remember? I don't think so. I think it was always Trish. It's always Trish. Trish. I always actually wanted Just Mine. Like, not Just Trish, but Just.

Like, Just Trish. Trish. The show. Like, Just Trish. And now it's Just Trish, I guess. But I guess because, yeah, I came from having co-hosts and stuff like that. So I'm like, hey, it's Just Trish. Trish, the show. Like, just Trish. And now it's just Trish, I guess. But I guess because, yeah, I came from having co-hosts and stuff like that. So I'm like, hey, it's just Trish. But, you know, anyways, it's a full family here.

A family of three. So it's just Trish. And Oscar and Moses. It's fun. We have a fun intro. I can't wait to get the Tesla truck. I think I only need another 80 pounds. No, I need, yeah, 80 pounds and then I can get the Tesla truck.

Cybertruck. We're paying them in pounds. Oh, yeah. What is 80 pounds no i need yeah 80 pounds and then i can get the tesla truck cyber truck we're paying them in pounds oh yeah what is 80 pounds in usd probably 100 oh really that's it oh okay dropping 80 kilos what's what's 80 pounds in kilos do you know that maybe is it a little bit less than 40 less it doesn't sound so skinny maybe Like a kilo is maybe 2.2, 2.4 pounds. I love everything in kilos. Do you know how much you weigh in kilos? I always weighed, like my whole life, I weighed like 70, 75, 80 kilos. That's so skinny.

Wow. That sounds so skinny. Well, anyways. I'm 90 kilos right now. That sounds little. Skinny. That's like crazy. To me, it's like 90 pounds.

I know. 90 pounds. 90 kilos. Okay. Yeah, just move to kilos you'll always be under I love it that's why

date someone who knows the metric system because they'll never know how much you weigh in pounds when I said 200 pounds they're like is that a lot I'm like oh no not really

skinny so now when I say stuff I mean now I feel like you know more so but when you know someone in metrics they're like I don't know pounds

perfect but I need to drop 80 more pounds and then I can get my Cybertruck so you're getting there yeah I am with the egg and this week especially I can't say 80 more pounds and then I can get my Cybertruck. You're getting there. Yeah. I am with the egg.

And this week especially, I can't say what I'm doing. I can't even give hints. But I'm doing something big next week. And I'm really going to go hard this week at my eggs and my grapefruit. And I can't even hint. I know I want to, but I can't. I can't. I signed an NDA.

I can't even tell you. It's a surprise free video. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. It's going to be – well, maybe it'll be big. Maybe it won't happen. But I think it's going to happen. So anyways.

I always want to share it. I'm so that person that wants to share it but um all right well let's go period well speaking of way i can now i wanted to text you this so bad my i was i got called chunky over the weekend and it was very very triggering and i think i think i would rather be called chubby than chunky i think i would rather be called chubby than chunky i think i'd rather be called anything else than chunky chunky is not okay you didn't text me this part and then you didn't respond to mine because i was like maybe it was a compliment because first of all chunky is there's oh i see what you're saying is it chunky chaser or chubby chaser chubby chaser oh chubby okay what was the context can you put it can you put it in full this makes it even worse the context okay so i

think i told you a couple weeks ago um that someone i hooked up with like in 2019 like started like going to my gym or whatever and he was weird because he'd be like work out next to me but like not talk to me so like the other day i finally like broke the ice i was like trying to be nice because he's wild like his workouts are very like erratic and, the movements he makes look, like, not very safe. Wow. Like, because he's, like, flailing around, like, kind of crazy. Maybe he's on crack or something. Maybe.

Like, what is he doing? Because I was trying to be nice. And I was like, hey, like, if you need, like, any tips or something on, like, form or whatever, like, I've trained for, like – I've had a trainer. So, like, I kind of know stuff about form. Yeah. You're being nice. He's like, nah,'s a first of all he has

like a southern accent but i can't really do that southern accent that was pretty good whatever that was i like i just go up to like the really hot guys that i see here and like i ask them for tips on like form or whatever it's like but i see you work out with like that lady all the time because my trainer now is like a girl i was like that lady like it was like so like condescending i was like okay well like if you need help with anything let me know yeah i think i'm doing it right then he shows me like a before and after like oh him like a couple months ago to now he's like yeah like i look like a completely different person now and he lost like 20 pounds which is great but it's not like anything earth shattering

you know mr beast transformation yeah i'm like okay i'm like okay i'm just like let me know whatever oh that's kind of sad right there it's like okay dude you can just be like yeah thanks i'll let you know yeah i was like yeah so everyone else here but you like i was like okay i was like you were after me in 2019 like let's not forget we did like he was like oh but he pursued you yes back in the day so i was like who was more attractive you would say? I don't know. I mean he's like taller and skinnier

but like back in 2019 like I my MO was like average. Like it's not like a right of like a badge of honor. Right, right, right. Because my type was like

more like ugly. Uglier the better just because I was like freshly skinny and I was like I was insecure around like hot guys. Whenever I hooked up

with hot guys I was like in my head. Yeah, okay. So he's he's mid or less mid? mid a little below maybe six perhaps perhaps to me that's mid yeah very mid um but then anyway so then i leave and i guess he like went up to like a straight guy like that i'm like acquaintances with and was like trying to like bro with him or something or like flirt with him i don't know because he was like oh like yeah that's oscar like as i was walking i guess oh that's oscar he's he's a chunky one he's got a fat ass but he's he's like too

chunky for me and too femme wait okay wait okay but this is not the guy at the gym this weekend he just said this a while ago no this is what he said yes so he's like introducing you to somebody else he's like you're hearing this no so he i laughed he told this straight guy that i'm like acquaintances with but i didn't know that because then i laughed that i'm friends with that guy he was talking about so then he came and told me i think trying to like laugh it off not thinking i was gonna like he said chunky part to you yes he's like he like that guy just said like oh, you're trying Oh my god, first of all, this is why straight men are so annoying I think he thought it would be like funny or whatever that I would laugh it off

But I was like, oh hell no So then I I already left the gym at this point like I was downstairs like outside like gonna ordering a smoothie whatever I was like a hell no. So I go back up the gym walk up the stairs. I'm looking for him whatever I was like hell no so I go back up the gym walk up the stairs I'm looking for him I'm like hell no what

really oh my god my mom said this is like the Cuban thing cause like all of a sudden I'm like so passive but then sometimes I can like really

go for it it's a very West Side Story yeah very West Side Story I saw clips I will watch it okay you should watch it I think it's about

they're Cuban right on the show yeah or Puerto Rican oh yeah similar same area yeah same area I saw clips. I will watch it. Okay, you should watch it. I think it's about, they're Cuban, right? I think she's Cuban. Or Puerto Rican? Oh, yeah. Similar. But the same area. Yeah, same area. They're feisty is what they are.

Yeah. Okay. So I like go up looking for him and then I'm like, okay, don't see him. Go into like the locker room. I see him. The timing was wild

because I guess he's just got out of the shower. So he was in just an undies. Oh no. And he starts making like small talk. He's like, oh, like,

are you going to pride or whatever and i was like i heard you were talking you did i just went for it and it was then all of a sudden he's like oh like what are you talking about and i was like did you not just tell someone that i'm too chunky and too femme for you and obviously he's like drops all he's like in his lockers where he drops all his stuff his airpods go flying he's like all flustered oh oh wow i apologize and i was like that accent was good i was like you know that like i may be a bigger guy but like you know i can like lift three four times more than you yes and i was like you're saying i'm too femme you have a higher voice than me and a southern accent you sound like a golden girl and you're wannabe pop star like we are in the same bracket like we are not that different you know like you are not mask you know what i

mean yeah i love that i like went in that's very like end of the barbie movie where everyone's just like applauding america ferreira for that speech that was good yeah i was reading and then i was like you really need to humble yourself because you may have lost 20 pounds and you may be like skinny now but you are not like a fitness icon so you need to humble yourself because you may have lost 20 pounds and you may be like skinny now, but you are not like a fitness icon. So you need to be careful who you talk about and do not speak on me again. And then I walked out. It was kind of fierce. So intense.

It was fierce. Love you. I'm proud of you for that, but also very intense. It is. It is. And not very like me at all because I'm so like passive. I snapped in that moment i think it was like like it was for it was for the chunky people out there who like people speak on out of pocket like first i wasn't even putting myself

out there for you to like reject in the first place like that's true like there was never an invitation you know what i mean like yeah i wasn't trying to get with you there was no offer for you to even like say that yeah and what did he he said exactly he said he's just a little chunky or what was the words i he said uh that's awesome oh you know oscar he's a chunky one he's got a fat ass but he's too chunky for me and he's too femme i like the mask ones right okay so what okay what part is more telling that to a straight guy that could care less what are you even talking about what mask femme what who cares like yeah and this guy also is 38 years old like you're too old to be like acting like this you know is he is he chunky

he had like a dad bod before and now he like lost 20 pounds and he's like just like skinny what celebrity would you relate him to god i don't even know before like before like, before his weight loss, he was almost like a little chunkier of a Jesse Tyler Ferguson, like the right? Yeah. Okay. So nothing's even like, yeah. He needs to not be talking. Yeah.

If it was someone really hot that was saying this, like Hassan or something. Yeah, if Hassan was like, he's chunky and too fat, I'd be like, you ate, like, period. You ate. You know, but like, damn, someone ugly telling me this? No, no, no. It's always uglies. I'd be like, you ate. Like, period. You know? But, like, damn. Someone ugly telling me this? No, no, no, no. It's always uglies.

Always uglies. And the people who are a little fat themselves. Everyone who's called me fat has always been, like, a little fat themselves. Yeah. And you're just kind of like, okay. Like, look at you. So, I had to stand up, I think, for the chunky people. And then it was like, you know, when you have your huge 80-pound weight loss, you got to

remember where you come from. Like, you can't. Oh, no. Yeah, you can't. weight loss, you got to remember where you come from. You can't. Oh, no. I'm going to be you see me on TikTok. Okay, block me, fatties. You don't like to talk about how skinny I am? Block me. No, because I know people get, like, triggered by before and afters.

And I understand that. And I get that. But I'll be posting before and afters all day long. I'll be the transformation. Like, watch me. Like, I don't know what the. My For You page is all transformations right now, just people getting super skinny. But I'm like, okay, it's going to be me.

You're going to have your moment. But even when I lose my 80 pounds, I'm still going to be like one – what am I going to be? 163. Actually, that would be the skinniest I've ever been in my adult life. That is teeny. Yeah, because like we always talk about the – during my touring days, I was 180. And I'm like, oh, that's pretty tiny then.

So if I was 163, that's another 17 pounds down. I'll be like I will be skin tea you'll be so skinny yeah so it's gonna happen I mean you know slowly but surely

we had pizza last week but that was my splurge day because I did do really good last week so I was like let's have a little pizza you know what I mean and it's only 27 calories I keep saying this

it's only 27 calories for one slice I had two slices it's 600 calories abortion control yeah it's not bad that's not what it's about

yeah anyways because if you deny yourself then you'll want to like you know go out more this is the longest i've actually consistently like try to eat clean the majority of the time because usually i'm just like off of it i'm just like whatever i'll just have pasta or whatever but you know if i get off of it a little bit i get right back on it so i've been trying to

do it anyways that's yeah i was gonna say maybe he might and it sounds a little bit like a compliment he says he's chunky he says he got a fat ass which is kind of nice. You know what I mean? Okay, I'll take that one. But I think it was more so like I'm like better than him because now I'm like I'm skinnier or whatever. I don't know. It was very much like condescending like, oh, like he is like I'm so out of his league, which is like we're not playing the same game. You know what I mean? No, if he's like an older, overweight Jesse Tyler Ferguson, definitely not. Like definitely not. No, no, no, no. Like that's crazy. Anyways, if he's like a older, overweight Jesse Tyler Ferguson, definitely not. Like definitely not.

No, no, no, no. Like that's crazy. Anyways, screw that guy. I know. But I would say like protect your peace sometimes. You know, if I was your therapist, I'd be like maybe don't go off

because it's like your peace that you're ruining for your day. I know, T, but I had to do it. I know. I get it. And usually like I let so much stuff go.

Like I'm not confrontational at all. Oh, but I was just like so ready to scrap. Especially like i'm never like i'm not confrontational at all oh but i was just like so ready to scrap especially like what i i'm like a child of bad girls club you know like i love those moments but it also taught me you can't just like run your mouth willy-nilly like you have to be very like specific you know otherwise you get you know hit or whatever so that's what i'm saying yeah right oh right yeah you don't think he would have punched you out or anything could take him out oh 100 if he like hit you you would be able to i would he would be knocked out i don't need you

to get physical i think me just like coming up to him like he was like so just shook by that because he wasn't like expecting like a confrontation like if it was like i'm like a hassan i wouldn't like you know he would whack me hard so it's like i would go up to him and like what are you talking you know yeah you were assessing the situation yeah like i can pick and choose i run away for sure that i run away i'm i'm the tana in this one i'm the flight because it's just like i don't know it's not even like that's not even my piece i'm just like i don't want to get hit i don't want to get i don't know people be wild in these days you know what i mean yeah that's true like i i think i just like pick and choose i knew that i could if anything happened i could take him on but

he's also kind of like whack. So like nothing. It would never come to that. He's just corny. So it's like. I mean that was that's random and so weird and out of pocket. Especially at 38 like you said. Like what are you doing?

Too old to be. It must be that age. Because Tati was 38 when she made her first drama getting video. I love that you related it to Tati. Because I was like wait at 38. So maybe at 38 you like regress a little bit. Something snaps. Yeah. You're kind of like you know what let me pick some fights. Because I was like, wait, at 38. So maybe at 38 you, like, regress a little bit. Something snaps. Yeah.

You're kind of like, you know what? Let me pick some fights because I'm almost 40, but I'm only 30. So I'm going to still, like, pick some fights with people. I don't know because she picked fights with James and for no reason and was calling him names. Yeah. I think – and also maybe, like, a lot of, like, rooted in insecurity. You know, like – Oh, well, always that.

It's hot. He definitely was. I'm sure he must be too, I guess. I mean, anyone who calls anyone fat is just, like, there's – it's always an insecurity of either, like, they're just jealous because, like, not of, like, the way you look or anything, but even, like, that you can be so confident or you can be this or you're friends with this guy or whatever. And it's always, like, an insecurity thing when people make fun of your weight

because there's no other reason. Like, there's just no other – there's no other time where you're just, like, this person's chunky. Like, what's the point of that? Yeah. Like, that's what I – in general – I mean, it happens so much with women. But I think that's why I, like, love and relate to women so much because that happens to them.

But also, it's, like, very much in, like, in the gay community, too. Like, it's all, like. Really? Yeah. Like, there's the whole, like. That's so weird. The motto, like, no fats, no fems or whatever. Like, on the dating apps, it's, like, like, the guys will put, like, in their little bio,

no fats, no fems. I'm, like, okay. Well, that was always me. So, I was, like, damn. Are you femme? What do you consider you femme i think so i mean compared to like uh like a really i don't know who i'm trying to think of an example um colton underwood do you know him he's like he was on the bachelor like he's more like he's like tall like more masculine like everyone thought he was straight forever so oh i see so if you're like straight passing you're the mask one yeah yeah because i don't consider you femme at all because you don't even like to like when we dress Like everyone thought he was straight forever. Oh, I see. So if you're like straight passing, you're the mask one? Yeah. Yeah.

Because I don't see if I'm at all. Because you don't even like to like – when we dress up, I always want you to like cross dress or something like that. You don't like to do anything. Yeah. I think there's like – it's like a spectrum. I'm definitely in like the femme category. That's why he was also – the guy was also femme. That's why I think I was extra like – during Pride Month, they're going to come for another

gay who's in the same category as you. We don't need gay on gay hate. We don't. Why do they have that? But that's like girls on girls. You're right. It's very that. It's like they just

come for their own. It's like, can you chill? I've had a lot of good like gay experiences this month so far though, which is good. What kind?

Like supportive. I got some great gay experiences. Like after last week, Austin's show, who is like Hasan's gay, DM'd me and was like, hey, like I heard you talk about me.

Like I'm a big fan and was so nice. like we love that like and he's like yeah like he's good representation for like the twunk community because he's like hot he's ripped and then he's also like nice i was like wow like you are a good example we need more of that we need more of that yeah i don't like that yeah i don't like the gang hate no i'm glad i'm seeing more like you know support yeah especially for him because also like i was thirsting after her song for like two hours so right and that's his straight man yeah so he wasn't like being like don't come he loved it yeah i think the worst gang hate and i don't think it's unwarranted i don't even know if it's because he was gay but you remember that show the real gay friends of weho oh yeah and everyone all the

gays came for that so hard they were like so pissed and then tatra's like can we all like be supportive and put more gays out there in the media? And everyone's like, no. And then it got canceled. I mean, kind of iconic though. I kind of love that they had that much power because I remember it was like such a big thing.

It was after RuPaul's, I think. It was after the Dracos. It was the Dracos that I watched, the season 15 or something. It was the sugar and spice season. Yeah. Shout out because that was my favorite because they did me for a snatch game. But I was like, I remember because that show would come on after and I'd watch it. And it was kind of a trash show.

It was like not really that good. But at the same time, I kind of get what they were saying. It's like, you know, one gay show is like going to help other gay shows come through. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think the problem was Todrick in that one. It's like, you know, he was like, it's almost like if a first of all, like they took away the drag race time slot, like they made the show like shorter to make room for that show to promote it so people were already annoyed from

the jump so that's like working against them but then also todrick is just kind of like he's very uh controversial like either like hate him or tolerate him i guess but i love todrick's like content i love todrick i love that he's a theater boy i like and he was like really nice we did a collab i like really nice i always thought he was so cool i was like a fan of his but yeah like the colleen post he did like in defense of her was wild because it's like again you can be friends with people that are problematic but like if they're actually her people like maybe just be quiet about it online you know don't be like ruffling feathers has he come has he been out doing stuff since then or is he he had like gigs booked like i remember like the last time we

talked about him was he was like started a go fund me for his family and like the colleen's like it was around colleen's birthday or so that was a while ago yeah or his birthday colleen was there i think that's what it was so maybe like a month or two ago right he had like a big party but then i was asking for yeah yeah he also was like i feel like instruct the musical or something i think he's like the donkey or something okay yeah i like kathryn but yeah i just feel like it's like the jojo thing it's like in Shrek the musical or something. I think it's like the donkey or something. Okay. Yeah. Work. Work. Anyways, I like Todrick, but yeah, I just feel like it's like the JoJo thing. It's like, hi, I mean, you can't like just be problematic after problematic when people have been hurt.

You know what I mean? You can't just like say stuff willy nilly, but. Yeah. And that's other things like JoJo performed at Pride and like. What? LA Pride? LA Pride. Yeah.

She's been doing the game. Like she's done maybe like three Prides now. She's the game icon, I guess. I'm sad. She's like very iconic. Maybe she could buy my purse. Yeah. I'll sell it for $3. Yeah. She's been doing the game. Like she's done maybe like three prides now. She's the game icon I guess. I'm sad. She's like very iconic. Maybe she could buy my purse. Yeah. I'll sell it for $3.50 to her.

And then we'll forgive you JoJo. I'll get my purse. Literally. And then I'll be forgiven. We'll hash things out. Live though. Get anything. Oh man.

When you give someone edit control, which we always give our guests. It's just kind of the, you know. Although JoJo lets a lot fly. She really does. I don't know if she would have anything edited out. She's like, it's all good. Yeah. That's like me though.

JoJo's like, everything's fine. And then you're like, oh, I guess I should edit that out. Because she spills a lot of tea. Yeah, I want to just spill some tea on her. Yeah. But she's another one. Like she talks so much and she's so like, I can't, I'm trying to think of like a more PC word than annoying, but I can't think of.

Right, right. She's just annoying. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah I mean yeah she knows she knows and like she does it on purpose yeah that's the one thing that bothers like bothers me about her though because she had like the whole thing at pride or she was like drinking her tequila and then she was talking about like online people like giving her hate or whatever but I'm also like it's not like you are just like trying to live your life as demure as possible yeah right you're like doing it on purpose which that yeah that is annoying like if you know what you're doing why does everyone come for me like i have so much hate i deal with so much hate all the time but she did kind of eat because like someone was like um homophobic against her she was like this one guy was uh calling me like a he

but i have a bigger dick than him and i get get more girls than him. I'm like, okay, you kind of ate with that. Like when you get homophobes, yeah, T. But what you, not every. What did he do? He left her a comment, like calling, basically misgendering her, calling her a guy or something like that. Yeah. Maybe it was autocorrect.

You know what I mean? Like I feel like sometimes it changes. I don't know. I don't know. Because I don't think she's male presenting. Is she? I don't think so either. I guess maybe because like she's almost like draggy almost. I don't know. I don't know. Because I don't think she's male presenting. Is she? I don't think so either. I guess maybe because like she's almost like draggy almost.

Like she's so. Oh, okay. So maybe it was something like that. Like a conservative. I don't know. Yeah. We have no room for homophobia. Yeah.

Even for JoJo. Like, yeah. Yeah. I may have my qualms with JoJo, but if you're homophobic towards her, then. Absolutely not. Yeah. I got her back. Yeah.

No, same. For sure. We always have that. Yeah. Can you just dislike a gay person without being homophobic though? Yeah, of course. Same with like, like, like having problems like women, you know, same. For sure. We always have that. Yeah. Can you just dislike a gay person without being homophobic? Yeah, of course. Same with like, like, like having problems like women, you know, like I obviously like I would consider myself a feminist and like I like support girls way more than men.

Yeah. But there's some girls that I'm just like, like a JLo or like a Colleen. I'm like, I can't, I can't have your back. I don't think JLo and Colleen are in the same category. What? What did JLo do? I think they disliked. I mean, JLo's not hanging out with like 13 year olds in Dublin, back. I don't think J-Lo and Colleen are in the same category. Oh, what? What did J-Lo do? I think they disliked. I mean, J-Lo's not hanging out with, like, 13-year-olds in Dublin, Ireland.

I guess so. But, I mean, she's. Asking them to send her underwear. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. But reputation-wise, I don't know. Okay.

Well, reputation era. They're coming back. Yeah, poor J-Lo. She's been struggling, though. I kind of feel bad for her. You know. Everything's just going to shit. Now it's like.

Yeah. Because I'm not'm not like a very like dog like i hate a dog pile in general but jlo was hard because like yeah i've like witnessed like the how horribleness yeah yeah but it's also like okay like you always talk about like paying the karmic debts or whatever i'm like oh i think we've done it we've reached the max they're selling their house it's like it's a whole thing. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, the tour. The tour canceled. Album flop. Movie flop. Now, like, divorce.

Allegedly. It's like, okay, I think she's paid the karmic dues. Welcome to Flop-a-tropica. Flop-a-tropica? Flop-a-tropica? Flop-a-tropica. Someone said that in my TikTok today. I love that.

They're like, welcome to Flop-a-tropica. I think it was to Alvarez. I was like, okay, well. Welcome to Flop-a-tropica. J-Lo. I don't know what I was going to say. Flop-a-op Tropica. I think it was to Alvarez. I was like, okay, well, welcome to Flop Tropica, J-Lo. I don't know what I was going to say. Flop Tropica. Speaking of Flop Tropica, you used to have your Teletubbies on.

I'm surprised. I thought that was going to come off. It's comfortable? Surprisingly very comfortable. Do you know what Flop Tropica is? Flop Tropica. No, it sounds like, I mean, it's an era, right? It's an era? It's somebody's flopping era. Yeah, it's a flopping era. I know. It sounds like, I mean, it's an era, right? It's an era?

It's somebody's flopping era. Yeah, it's a flopping era. I like that one. But what were you going to say? Sorry, I cut you off a bunch of Teletubbies. No, just surprisingly very, you know, that tight on the neck, very thin fabric. Slay all day. It is pretty good.

I can't wait for Malibu to see me wearing this. Yeah, she's going to love it. I know we've been wearing all the Teletubbies stuff because they sent it to us. So, yeah, that's good. She's going to love it. Aw, little Malibu to see me wearing this. Yeah. She's going to love it. I know we've been wearing all the Teletubbies stuff because they sent it to us. So yeah, that's good. She's going to love it. Aw, little Malibu baby. Flop Tropica.

Welcome to Flop Tropica. That should be the name of our podcast. I do love it. Yeah. I did see another TikTok. It was like, your America's Got Talent audition

and it was like the judges of Flop Tropica like critiquing her or something. I got it. They kind of are. Howie is mayor of Flop Tropica for sure. That's such a slay.

We watched America's Got Talent now and every time we watch it, I always remind Moses, like, I was on that. Did you ever see my audition? It was pretty good. Actually, I can't even watch it because it is actually so cringy. Like, I actually just can't watch it. I don't think I ever watched it. I watched it once.

But yeah, it's one of those things where it is. It's so hard. Because don't they like buzz, like they X you like immediately? Seriously, because I never had a chance to talk to you. I can't even look at you. Help me out. Don't. And they don't do that anymore they don't do four buzzers for anyone everyone's like so nice now and simon's so nice everyone's so nice oh my god they really were they were all bitches but uh except for howard stern of course he was nice but everyone else was annoying i just don't like any of them that's why what did you say you were again you were like a data analyst or something or like

what was your title? It was something computer related. Like. Yeah, it probably was. You had your computer programmer. Computer programmer. Yes. I always changed my occupations.

On Ellen, I was a waitress. On America's Got Talent, I was computer programmer. That was a wild one. I wonder why I said that. I don't know. It was so cringy. Everything about that was cringy. But, you know, shout out.

That was good. Well, I mean, you did invent the selfie stick. Oh, yeah. That was to tell the truth with Betty White. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know what occupation on that was either. They asked you.

I don't know. I just made up stuff. It's like whatever. What would you say it is now? Would you still make it up if you went on a show? Would you say like podcast? I'm going to make it good now. I'm going to participate as I am.

Yeah, because they don't want you to say like influencer, but maybe now they would let you. Yeah, because on all the shows they would never let me say it. They're like, you have to like have an occupation. And I was like, okay, so you just like make up stuff. So if I went on now, I would be like, I am. Host. Personality. I could say that if I was on a show.

I would just make up something. I don't know. I'm like, I don't know. I guess people are like activists. I could be like a gay rights activist or something. You know, what is it called? Those nonprofits. Like I'm a nonprofit.

You know. You're a proud Birkin owner. i know not if i'm on a game show i'm on something where i'm supposed to be humble and i'm supposed to be like a citizen i need to be like you know what i mean yeah right or what are those called civilians civilians as you call them wait normies i do call them normies but there's i feel like okay well anyways i want to i want to talk about the traders casting i don't know if that's exciting i will say this though sam is not allowed to talk about bernie speakers on the traders and by the way i'm not on the traders this is like i hope they like call me right now and be like could you come in and fly in like you know how they do mid season and i did see a rumor with the traders cast that like

they someone who's been covering the show has been said that they're pretty sure there's going to be like mid-season like additions because they said the cast seems a little too like small right now or something. It does seem small and very boring. So just help me. Like I'm ready to go in. My C-section scar is completely healed. I can do everything. I can put my feet up. I can jump off cliffs.

I can do everything. I would love to go in. I can definitely jump off a cliff. No problem. I would love to go in mid-season. And I think it could happen because right now I'm like, wow, they didn't cast me, but they didn't cast me, but like I could. You know what I mean? Okay, here's the thing.

It's boring. The cast is boring. No one knows who anybody is. Sam Asghari is like the one I knew, right? But you know him as Britney's ex. He's even labeled as like Britney's ex. But now he's not allowed to talk about her. I don't know if you saw that, but like he can't mention Britney Spears on the show. So I'm like, they're literally just having civilians on this episode if he can't talk about Britney Spears because what else is he going to talk about? Doesn't make any sense.

Everyone else is like reality show star except for Zac Efron's brother, which why is he on? Also, I'm not complaining. I kind of live for that. I'm only rooting for Zac Efron's brother. What's his name? Dylan? Dylan. Yeah, Dylan Efron.

Was he on anything? He was just on that Zac reality show, Down to Earth with Zac Efron. Oh, I thought so. The one where he's like exploring the world. Yeah, the traveling one. Okay. So he was on a reality show. Technically, yeah. I mean, technically though. Okay, right. But I was on Somebody Big Brother. I was on him as Busy exploring the world. Yeah, the traveling one. Okay, so he was on a reality show. Technically, yeah.

I mean, technically though. Okay, right. But I was on Somebody Big Brother. I was on Elizabeth Xavier Rowling. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, and American Girl Talent and everything else. So I think I could be on.

Big Brother, they have a lot of contestants. I was on Big Brother. You know what I mean? Like, I don't understand Tom Sandoval. I'm like, just because you're on Pump? Yeah. I mean, he's probably the biggest name, which is the saddest thing about this cast. He's like the only one that's like the big name right now.

I think that's so lame. Everyone else I don't know. Oh, shout out Gabby Windy, though. I thought she was a podcaster. I was like, oh, okay, podcaster. And someone was like, oh, you said she was from The Bachelor. I didn't even know. Bachelorette.

Was she The Bachelorette? Yeah, Bachelorette season 19. Okay. I thought she was just a podcast host. And I was like, that's everything that she's a podcast host. But even, you know. Yeah, the cast, I was kind of especially at season two was like the cast was so stacked because you have so many like reality like legends like you know infamous like

so good at the game this one i would say like there's a handful of people i'm like excited about like obviously bob the drag queen your tweets by the way it was like santa's going i'm not watching then like five minutes later okay i'm watching again bob the drag queen i didn't want to say they were all flop tropicas because I was like, okay, Bob the Drag Queen kind of slays. Love Bob the Drag Queen. Yeah. And I would love, I can't wait.

I'd like want to go on there so bad just to like be with him. Like I would love that. Yeah. But everyone else flops for sure. Bob. Boston Rob. I'm sorry. He, I remember him when I was like 10 years old.

Okay. That guy has to be like 60. Like how is he on this show? Like how is he still relevant? Like he was on Survivor literally when I was a kid. Like I remember that. Yeah. He was on the older season. I do love like a reality vet like britney

haynes she was on big brother i forget what season i i think i might have been in high school or something though when she was on it but she's so like she's kind of like a janelle she spends with janelle from last season and she's like a girl she's blonde she's a girly like she's funny sarcastic and she's like a pop culture like Like girly. Like she's in it. Okay. So I'm excited for her. I'm excited for Bob. I think.

No one else. I think that's pretty much it. Carolyn. Carolyn from. She was on Survivor recently. She was like funny on there. She's another girly. I think all the Survivor people need to go.

I'm sorry. No one watches Survivor. It's old. It's outdated. Well Parvati last season. I love Parvati. She was Survivorati i know you live i can't stand her i could not stand her on the show i was like how do you like her because you like you would love her iconic she's a queer icon no okay well now you have to like no still don't

like her and she's a competition sometimes i'm in competition with other queer icons like jojo and stuff because i want to be the one and i feel like i'm not the one i never got invited to pride we didn't have a float. We could have had a float. Do you know what I mean? I was surprised we did not have a float. It was very just Trish Codd to have a float.

Yeah. I don't understand. Maybe next year now that you put it out there. And like, again, the pregnancy, I feel like a lot of people kind of just like

left you alone. I could have performed. I could have performed. I was already gave birth. You know what I mean? But now you proved it because you're doing like the splits and everything.

I can do the splits for sure. I don't like any of the Survivor people. They should all go. Is there any housewives on this season? Yeah. Dorinda from New York. No. She's fun.

I do like Dorinda. We love. But I haven't seen like the real housewives of Dubai. There's someone from there. What? No. Yeah, it's a mix. Bob Harper from The Biggest Loser.

I was like, oh my God. The one that just yells at all the fatties. I would be triggered there. What? No. Yeah, it's a mix. Bob Harper from The Biggest Loser. I was like, oh my God. The one that just yells at all the fatties. I would be triggered there. Oh my God. He'd call me chunky for sure. Yeah, I want to see what you look like now. Let's go without your shirt. He was so triggering on that show.

Oh my God. He wasn't as bad as the woman trainer, not to be like that lady. Oh, yeah. Jillian Michaels. Couldn't stand her. She was so mean. She was so mean for no reason. But Bob was also very mean, and I don't like him either.

Yeah, it's an interesting... Are they all fit? What happened to the fatties? Because there were some Chunkos last season and I loved that. Because I remember when MJ, not to say she's Chunko, but like in a cute way

because, you know, I'm a Chunko too. It's like I was inspired by her when she like, what is it, ziplined? Oh, yeah, at the end. Yeah, I was like, oh, shit. Like they're able to do that. Like I want to do it. The mom too.

Who was the mom that was a traitor? She was like came in mid-season. I don't know her name from the boat show oh shit i forgot her name too but she like went off that cliff yeah even like sandra she was on survivor but she's like a mom now she's older yeah yeah okay so all those i was like oh this is so inspiring but there's no one like them right like middle age like not super fit i don't i guess dorinda from from real house wife she's older she's definitely like middle age but yeah she's not like she's like very petite yeah i don't like that they don't have like normal people like nikki garcia she's freaking wrestler she's ripped yeah so they're all just like fit hot people yeah you're right yeah okay i'm over it yeah and i just don't like tom sandoval or sam

asgari so no both of them ultimate traitors they should be out right away i would eliminate them right away yeah me too the second I got there I'd be like you're out I don't care you're an actual traitor I don't care if you can't mention Brittany I would tell everyone I was like I heard he's a freaking traitor you guys like we need to get him out I would tell everyone this is a piece of trash man like get him out like everybody production

Alan Cumming like everybody do you know what he did to Brittany like are you kidding me like played her okay you suck okay you saw her okay you left her in the time of need what happened to her oh i couldn't i'm disappointed they didn't cast me i really am they sent me a freaking passport and a bag and a polaroid but the actual process was happening while you were giving birth okay but they're probably filming it now i can go over there right now if they call me we can can get a private jet. Boom, we're over there all together.

But there's a process that happens before bringing you over. Well, I'm telling them now. They don't need to screen me. I've been on reality shows. You know, they do like psych tests. I've done those already. They don't need to do that. We'll get a private jet. We'll spend all the money they would pay me for the show to go over there. Bring the whole family over. I won't be away from anybody. Then we can go explore the castles of

Scotland. Although Ireland, I'm telling you, Ireland is beating my Scotland. Really? Yeah. I think Irish people are taking over the world. Okay. Nile. Nile, Nicola.

Nicola. Ayo, Tiberi. Barry Keoghan. Barry Keoghan. T. He's T. Wig. Did you watch Please, Please, Please?

Of course I saw the Please, Please, Please. Oh my God. I've watched it 50,000 times. I actually, Sabrina Carpenter, my number one at the moment as far as get, I am so obsessed with her, her body, her look, her attitude. I did see a TikTok of someone saying she wasn't very nice. Like there was a person that waited on her. Really?

I don't know. She waited on, no, this girl like does a series and she always talks about celebrities that were nice and celebrities that weren't. And she said Sabrina was just like, where's my booze? She didn't even say hi to them. She's like, where's my booze? She got tables for them, I think. She takes care of celebrities or something.

And she was like, whatever. Which I know all the comments were just like, I don't want that to be true. And I don't know. But I don't know. Whatever. But it sounds more like Corky. Like, where's my booze? Yeah.

Like what? Like Corky. Corky. Like somebody going, I'm cool. I'm going to get drunk. Where's my booze? Where's the booze? Like what? Like, Corky. Corky, like somebody going, I'm cool. I'm going to get drunk. Where's my booze? Where's the booze? Maybe that's what she was like.

Yeah, I was going to say, because that is very Sabrina. Like, she is, like, very, like, sarcastic. That's true. Like, I don't know. I've only had good experiences with her. Oh, right. You know her. You've met her next door.

Yeah, I've seen her twice. Like, the two times I've, like, met her, she was, like, really, really nice. I mean, she was less famous back then, I guess. But the two times I've like like met her she was like really really nice i mean she was less famous back then i guess but the two times i met her she was really nice i like the people who i've worked with in radio who have like known her forever i've only said like really really nice things about her yeah that girl was lying you liar or maybe like people have like you know different experiences yeah i mean she's already drunk yeah exactly yeah yeah something they expect too much i'm like this is not a personal like she's there to eat and drink and yeah that's true it's not that's true it's not about the waiter at that

moment like sometimes she's just there to eat yeah i've seen people call people rude for just like not having a conversation with them yeah well you know they want to keep it going okay we're back on team sabrina i love sabrina carpenter that video okay because the girlies the pop girlies are out this weekend because like ariana grande too the music videos were so good yeah they're just good music videos again i think uh octopus said this i think he was just like the music videos are back there every watch he has both of them on next week literally literally yeah ariana and ariana got more views but i think sabrina slays more i think sabrina ended up getting more views like as of now i think there was like a three million difference

no i think because sabrina's was like the berry element. And like she is kind of like the it girl right now. But I loved both. Like Ariana's was so good. She looked so good. She had Penn Badgley. The Penn Badgley, the Catwoman theme. She ate.

Well, I didn't really get the Catwoman theme though. Why that? I think she, it's just like kind of camp, I think. She just liked it. And like the, and the Catwoman is like the villain, right? And she was, the whole song is about like the villain arc like the boy is mine she wrote it like to be to play like the character of like the i'm like the reputation right like i see a man i'm gonna get him like she wrote from that she's like if you think that this is what i am then i'll write a song from this

that's what she said about it yeah that's kind of like maybe this is who she is if you's just who she is. I don't know. She's like, if you want to think this, I'm going to write it. But also, why would you spend that much energy if that's not you? Could you imagine? I'm like, if you want to think, I don't know, I'm racist. I'm going to write a whole song about it.

It's like, I wouldn't do that to make it seem like, okay, you guys are right. Let me write this. That's weird. I love kind of like Bad Girl. Because I think Ariana too is very, very sweet.

Kind of like Taylor. She played the bad girl for a song in Reputation era or whatever. But it wasn't that bad. It wasn't like, I'm going to take your man. True, I guess. She should have had Ethan Slater in the video. Yeah, why isn't Ethan Slater playing your love interest?

True on the nose, I don't know. Barry Keoghan with Sabrina is like, that's what you should have. If that's your man, this is your man, claim him, like claim him in the video. Instead, you have sexy ass Penn Badgley be like, like, oh, why don't you do that with Ethan Slater? And she copied you. I think she got the idea. I just think she copied me. I think she got the idea to use him and the whole you.

He said that. He's like, you were the one that started the pen badging craze. Like the idea of you and all that, like being, you know, the obsession. So now suddenly Ariana is now suddenly like all obsessed with him and you

and that story I don't think so I know I think you're right I was like that was my obsession just when we started this podcast

it was my obsession so I think she has been listening since day one so I thought the same thing Barry Heoghan and Sabrina too I'm just gonna put it out there

they shot at the same bank where they're robbing the bank as my music video Red Flags yeah check out Red Flags same concept there's a criminal it's based loosely on Britney Spears' criminal but I think Sabrina's is loosely based on ours the same bank where they're robbing the bank as my music video, Red Flags. Yeah. Check out Red Flags. Same concept.

There's a criminal. It's based loosely on Britney Spears' criminal, but I think Sabrina's is loosely based on ours because we did the same thing with the bank. We go in and we rob all the stuff like that with the gun. I really think so. And I had the blonde. I was, you know, anyways, just saying. I think it might have been a little bit inspired by me. No, it was so good.

But I've also been saying Barry Keoghan's been hot since the beginning, since Salt Burn. Like, I mean, everyone's been saying that, but everyone's like, now I get it. And I was like, but we've all been seeing it. He's hot. I'm with Oscar. Yeah. Yeah, he's like, he said this is the most unattractive. I was like, oh, okay.

So we've been looking at the Rodent Men. Right. We'll talk about the Rodent Men. He's like, of all the Rodent Men, he's the most unattractive. I was like, no. So I did not coin this term. I think it's a little derogatory, but I think it's the rodent men. Right. We'll talk about the rodent men. He's like, of all the rodent men, he's the most unattractive. I was like, no. So I did not coin this term. I think it's a little derogatory, but I think it's also kind of nice. The rodent men is the Timothy Chalmé, Mike Feist, Josh O'Connor, Barry Keoghan.

There's one more that I don't really care for that's in the rodent men. I actually wrote it down, too. Let me see if I can find it. Why didn't I write down rodent men? Barry, Josh, Timothy. Oh, Jeremy Allen White is the other rodent. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. So I don't know who coined this term. I saw it all over my Twitter. And most of all down rodent men Barry Josh Timothy oh Jeremy Allen White is the other rodent oh yes yes yes yeah so I don't know

who coined this term I saw it all over my Twitter and most of like of all the rodent men he's the worst but I think Barry Keoghan is the hottest of all of them I think he's so hot

we're gonna cosplay next week clock it if you wanna dress up too we're gonna cosplay the Sabrina pink fur coat Barry Keoghan

I got the car coming the dodge you know I'm glad I'm like dude cause her little polaroids of them oh my god they were so sexy yeah actually the yellow fur coat, Barry Keoghan, I got the car coming, the Dodge, you know, I'm glad mom liked doing it. Because her little Polaroids of them, oh my God, they were so sexy. Everything, yeah. Yeah, she had the yellow fur coat. I'm looking for that.

So anyways, stay tuned. Fashion Nova actually has a yellow fur coat on their site and says, coming soon. I'm like, can you get this now? Because this is- Expedite. It's like the exact, yeah, this is the exact replica of Fashion Nova. But I think Barry Keoghan's the hottest of all the rodents. And I love Mike Feist.

He was an old theater boy. I love him, but Barry is, I mean, his wink, his smile, the rodents. And I love Mike Feist. He was an old theater boy. I love him, but Barry is, I mean, his wink, his smile, his dimples. He's a good actor.

Like, he was really giving in the video for sure. Giving? I could see it. I could see why people would be into it. It just isn't.

Not your type. Like, for me, no. He was such a good actor. He's like an Academy Award winner and I'm like, I love that he's doing this

like beating up the guys in the back and stuff like that. And then you watch, no offense, but then you see Penn Badgley and you're just like, that guy's a way better actor like very human like slate and that's i don't know i don't think it's a competition but i totally agree with you right he's so good the whole like acting as the mayor i'm like you don't fit the character why is this happening right now like moses reading you don't get the character because Because that music video was odd.

It was odd. It was odd. The choices that were made. I didn't love. I love Ariana. I didn't love. I love the Ben Badgley. I love the you.

I disagree. I just think he's perfect for it. And he is. Oh, God. He is like gorge shoe. What are your thoughts on it? On the Ariana one? The fashion.

I loved it. I love the hair. I love the dark hair. I love the shorter. I kind of like your length almost, right? Yeah, like shorter. This is supposed to be Taylor, but it's giving Anna Wintour. It's giving Betsy Johnson, you know, but it's fine.

I like Ari with the short hair. I also love that aesthetic because it reminds me of like her older like Dangerous Woman where she had like the bunny ear like mask or whatever. I don't know what that is, but. It was like one of my favorite Ariana albums. Okay. So it kind of gave me that. I don't know.

I love like that, like, but I also love comic book movies, you know? So it was kind of like comic book-y, noir kind of, I don't know. I thought it was such a slay. Yeah. And I, I'm a sucker for Ariana. You love. I really do love her. More than Sabrina.

Sabrina is better. No, I love Sabrina too. Yeah. I think my like, what was it? Like, my Apple Music, like, wrapped or whatever. It was, like, Taylor, Olivia, then Sabrina. Sabrina was my third last year. Yeah, so she's up there.

Yeah, the Iron Man was good. I think because I saw the Please, Please, Please the night before, and I was so obsessed with that, and I just thought they were so hot. They gave so much chemistry. I was just like... Also, like, Ariana, I love that she had... I mean, I love Pam Badgley, but, you know, he's super married. And not only like, also like Ariana, I love that she had, I mean, I love Pam Badgley,

but you know, he's super married. And not only that, he's super like against, like he didn't even want to do any like lovemaking scenes in you. Cause he's like, I want to respect my wife. So then Ariana casting him,

I'm like, that's kind of wild. I don't know. I think it made sense for like the concept, like in you, like he's the one that's stalking and like it reverses it. It makes like, you know,

the woman being the one stalking him. I think that's fun. and like it reverses it and makes like you know the woman being the one stalking him i think that's fun and like her first music video uh or second one um had like evan peters so i i like is he married i don't think so no he's just he has a girlfriend but he's not married but i like the cinematic like universe that ariana is okay like the little like killers yeah the creepy like boys yeah this is like oh this guy is so like i don't want to do anything sexual and then at the end she's like like straddling him and they're like about to kiss and i was just like um this is like a little like what what happened to like i don't want to like kiss anybody but it was like super attention i think he was

more like full like nude sex scene is what he didn't want to do though like i don't think like romay like that was like pretty pg-13 you know? I don't know. And my friend was Penn Badgley and Ariana was like, I want to do a music video. I'm like, I don't know about that. Like, let's just,

you know, wait. Especially knowing what we know. That's what I'm saying. It's like that little bit. I don't know. I'd be scared. If I was Ethan Slater,

I would be shaking in my boots. That too. You lose them, how do you get them? Chloe, all of them. You know what I mean? Like that,

I mean, it's sad, but it's true. You know what I mean? Because you can only go based on someone, how they've get them? Chloe, all of them. You know what I mean? Like that, I mean, it's sad, but it's true. You know what I mean? Because you can only go based on someone, how they've acted in the past, right? And so it's just like, I don't know. She probably didn't expect her man to go on to Wicked and then leave with Ariana Grande. You know what I mean?

I don't know. I just, I don't know. I, yeah. Maybe we don't know the full story. Yeah, I guess just because they came out the same day, it probably just makes it harder. Because I think music videos in general, I mean, look at yours. It's not like all yours are like. Oh, I wanted just because they came out the same day. It probably just makes it harder because I think music videos in general I mean look at yours. It's not like all yours I wanted them all to be real. I always cast people I thought were hot. I was always like on Tinder

I literally I think my freaky one. I think I found him on Tinder I think I was like do you wanna be in a music video? Like I think that's what it was and he was like in a Britney video. Yeah, I always was like, you know That's what I guess is in my mind. I'm like, but ours like the Shape of Water all those, you know Yes, and then I met you. I never had a love interest. were always that's what i'm saying yeah you always you were always my love interest i had you in like three videos bella where the hell have you been loca they should do that too because i do that is true i because it is like acting yeah but i don't know if i'm like with you and then i'm like oh i really want like who do I love right now I don't know Mike Feist to be my love interest I don't know

it's kind of weird I don't think I would you know and this is like an actual acting we're doing like a movie with like a director but like if it's my music video where I get to cast I think it's kind of weird right I don't know I disagree I think it's like I think it's hard because like comparing it to Sabrina like it has her actual like boyfriend in it. But I think music videos in general, like it's pretty common for like artists to not cast their own like, you know, person in there. Like Taylor Swift has never had a music video with one of her boyfriends or whatever. Brittany always did. Brittany had K-Fed.

Brittany had Larry in Criminal Video. She had Sam in Slumber Party. She always had her boyfriend. I can say, maybe it's just different for everyone. I don't know. I don't,

I didn't think about it like that. I don't know either. Less personal, but. I love it. Yeah, Please Please is more catchy. I love both. I'm like, yeah. I think it's unfortunate

that everyone, all the girlies are releasing at the same time. Why? Yeah. So, I feel like it puts them in competition with

all, like, everyone. But, I don't, I don't know. You can do, like, both. Yeah. Did Billie Eilish come out releasing at the same time why yeah so why do you feel like it puts them in competition with all like everyone but i don't i'm i don't know you can do like both yeah did billy eilish come out with one someone else said billy eilish had yeah she had a music video like the day before yeah i didn't see it and that's no shade i haven't i honestly didn't see it either and i love billy's album yeah but i haven't seen the music video but also she's more like low-key with her visuals like she had a music video for lunch it was like that i'm gonna eat that girl for lunch and you would think maybe it'd be like kind of like as cinematic as the other ones but it was more like early 2000s like white background like almost like iMovie like the filters and stuff it was like low-key low budget i think she's just being like

more chill about it you know so we love it economical queen yeah it's here like we're gonna just give people something that's not over the top that doesn't cost a million dollars to produce i like the million dollar ones i like the story ones and that's why i do like both of them yeah they had good stories and they had good like acting you did see in the ariana one you loved when they break the music and it's just like quiet and it's like when she's like doing the cat scratch she breaks it and then you see him in the soap it's like the old michael jackson yeah he did and it's kind of cool it's kind of like a movie i just think it's still wild if you don't want to be known as something you're like actually i'm going to write a song about it i think it's fierce i love it i love

when it's like when everyone is like saying your one thing it's like fine you think i'm a bad girl i'll show you yeah i prefer the jojo one over it i like that one the karma that one came out that one no one was saying like oh jojo's you know, no one was calling her like a kiss. Killer clown. Yeah. No one was calling her that. She just kind of went for it. You know, she wanted to do that.

I like that too. Like just brand yourself. Like no one's talking about it, but I'm going to just, I, you know what I never had? And I like, I've always thought about this era. I think Moses knows. I was talking about it. I really want a mime era. I want a time where I'm just like a mime.

Oh, M-J-I. My A-I-M silver username. Are you a mime? My first one time where i'm just like a mime um j i my aim silver uh username are you my first one was this is so random super silver mime i don't know where it came from were you trying to be a mime i don't know i was a mime for halloween one maybe that's why we could be in our mime era together i would i'm like wait how do we not speak though that would be the hardest part right how do we do a podcast as mimes that would be hard i wanted to fully commit to. How do we do a podcast as mimes? That would be hard.

I wanted to fully commit to that, too. I mean, it's so easy. You guys just sit there and make faces at each other. And Jimmy inserts, you know. The captions. Yeah. Captions in between. So he's really.

Okay. Easy. He's the one doing the podcast. Yeah. Jimmy's in control. I guess you're not a mime. You could talk. It just becomes Moses' podcast. Iconic.

I'll be the one. Like, I'll have a piano here. i'll be like a musical oh okay like a little score there's always there's always a music in the background as you guys do stuff really with the mimes because i gotta set i guess it'll set the tone you know what i mean like if it's funny oh okay yeah that's what i was thinking more it's like vaudeville. Okay, mixed with mimes. I like it. I think that's a slay for sure. Back from a snack break.

Not that anyone would know because we have an editor, but just in case you wanted to know, I needed chips. I was feeling lightheaded, so I'm sorry about the segment before. I was thinking about it while I was going to the bathroom. I was like, you know what? We don't know shit about Ethan Slater and his mom and his baby mama and his kid. You know, same thing with Biff. We don't know anything.

You know what I mean? The baby could be traveling with him to Coachella for all we know. Maybe he was in the trailer waiting for him. You know what I mean? We have no idea. And maybe the wife is a huge fan of Sabrina Carpenter. I am with Britney Spears and I'm like, oh, I'm so excited actually for you. We don't know. We don't know the situation. We have no idea.

Same thing with Ethan. They're probably all great. Everyone just tries their best as a parent, really. You know what? The kid is... They're going to be fine. They're going to be great because they know their parents and that's great. And even if you don't know your parents, you turn out fine too, so it's okay. Wow. Chip really will turn you

around. Shout out. I was like, what was I thinking? I was hungry. I was hungry. And I didn't have a chip. And I'm on my diet. I should have had a banana. I didn't know we had bananas. I was like, oh, there was bananas up there last. I was hungry. And I didn't have a chip. And I'm, you know, I'm on my diet. I should have had a banana. I didn't know we had bananas. I was like, oh, there was bananas up there last. I almost got the Butterfinger.

That probably would have been really good having a little sugar kick. But I was, so I was listening to the Sabrina Carpenter song. Like I played it on, on whatever YouTube app or something. In the break just now? No, earlier this morning when I was getting ready. And then it went on to, you know, it played all of them. It was like Billie Eilish and Ariana Grande. And then a song came up.

I didn't know who it was. It was the most impressive song from all of them. Wow. Who is it? It was Chappelle Rhone. I had no idea. I thought he was going to say Trisha Paytas. I don't know why.

I was like, I think it was just a song. That we know. But it was really surprising. Something with babe in the title. But the song, she's really like, good luck, babe. Tori Amos. Wow. It was really surprising. Something with babe in the title. But the song, she's really like, good luck, babe. Good luck, babe. Tori Amos.

Wow. It was really impressive. Anyway, I had no idea about her music, but I heard that one song. And that was the one that stuck out to you. Chapel Row, we want you on the podcast. So bad. We had our window, and I think we missed it.

I know. God, it always happens to us. We get the it girls. We were there. The girls like it, but then they just get too big. They get too popular. Yeah. Roll the clip of her saying that she wants me in malibu where we perform with her person i'm bringing mid-show to bring up the energy is trisha paytas featuring malibu barbie i swear if they're if she's on therapist and not here that would be my villain origin story 100 i get

any like i can therapists can take like the Glenn Powell's like the Tate McRae's whatever but like we were just so close to chapel so if she goes as therapist it's over for us

oh it's over that is it we're going for we're going for Octopus he's our enemy number one he's the industry plant he's the new Bobby Altaf where we're like

what even we don't get this that's who we're going for LOL and the Ed Sheeran one I think I was really like oh my gosh how do you get Ed Sheeran on what? And the Ed Sheeran one. I think I was really like, oh, my gosh. How do you get Ed Sheeran on a podcast? Like, who gets Ed Sheeran? Not even Zach Zane gets Ed Sheeran.

Like, what the hell? He doesn't do anything. That's wild. That's actually wild. And I think he's a plant. I think he's a plant. There's no other way. There's no other way you're getting those guests.

Maybe they're cousins? They do look like each other. They have the same vibe. Well, his cousins was Sophia Range Gritchies. Sophia Richie Grange. Yeah. Yeah. She was just.

So, maybe. She just had her baby shower. I don't know. Like she had. No, she just had her baby. Yeah. But what was. It was like a baby welcoming.

I don't know. Oh. It was a post baby. Really? A post baby? It's a birthday. Yeah. They should have birthdays.

We celebrated Elvis' birthday. Yeah. You just had a birthday. Oh a birthday. Yeah. They should have birthdays. We celebrated Elvis' birthday. You just had a birthday. Oh, yeah. Love that. And then, yeah, Therapist was there with Nicole, Richie, and Sophia. Yeah, he's connected. Yeah. And did you see how he had a clip go viral with Glenn Powell?

Did you see it? Oh, about the flesh-eating lotion? Yes. I was just like, my mom was on the thing about how the guy wanted – I just said this on our walk-in yesterday. I was like, yeah, this guy wanted to like eat her – Yes. He told this story on Therapist.

Glenn said – not his sister but his sister's friend went on a date with a guy and that was like super charming. They had a great night. They go back to his apartment and the guy tries to give the girl a massage and the girl started getting like weird vibes saying that something feels off he started massaging her shoulders and everything just felt odd so she like got out of there um and then her skin was like really irritated so she went to the doctor oh that's what it was yes i was like who looked at her skin oh she was irritated it was like really like yeah she had like a crazy rash and like it was like itching and he said that she went to a doctor that did a test on her skin and it turns like itching. And he said that she went to a doctor that did a test on her skin. And it turns out it's a black market lotion that breaks down skin for human consumption.

So it was like he was rubbing lotion on her to eat her. And he said that the doctor got the guy's address and they called the police and they went to the guy's house and he had several bodies in the house. Oh, I didn't hear that part. Yes. Well, this. What? and they went to the guy's house and he had several bodies in the house oh i didn't hear that part yes well this what there has been like some debunking okay and it's kind of just like a myth that is like a really popular myth and it's like it's been going on for years so as far as like like people really dug to try to see if the story was real it's not real news or something if someone finds like someone in la have like girls bodies in there like it would be a story jeffrey dahmer netflix yeah that's crazy yeah

you're so right i love all the celebrities just lying just making stories i know and it's like like who who's the or like origin who like originated the lie like was it the sister the sister's right like where did it i don't know that it's this big myth like wise tale that's been going on for a long time i didn't hear that part because the first part was kind of believable i was like oh that's like crazy that this guy would be doing that to people yeah the cops are called and this and that and okay anyway i was so excited about that story too because i was like telling my mom was like moses like this is like a crazy thing yeah and now it gets spread and someone else will tell that story and

it becomes their story and that's how lies start you just start believing them they just become truth along the way and uh according to snopes uh which is like a debunking like website um the story can be traced back to 2001 and it's been shared in various forms mainly via email um sometimes the story talks about a woman having sex with a necrophiliac and giving her an infection um and eventually over the years it evolved into a sexual or new sexual encounter with a cannibal so it's like this thing that's been that sounds horrible army hammer probably started maybe that's where he got his personality he's just like actually i heard the story one time it sounds quirky i'm like especially glenn is like just like a nice normal guy and you got to bring something

a therapist i guess you got to give him some kind of story. Because Ed Sheeran gave some tea on Therapist, too, right? He was just talking. He was just spitting. He was like, Olivia Rodrigo, great album. He was saying everything he likes, dislikes. He said all artists want to compete and be number one. No one's going to put out an album for it to flop.

He was just spitting for no reason. I kind of live for that. reason i mean that's crazy why wasn't octopus on the aloe trip with uh brooke t because he's like mr aloe he's always there yeah i don't know he did repost something about him being on ozempic though what did he say you just reposted it on tiktok oh but what was the tiktok the tiktok was like oh uh it was literally just a picture of him and it it was like, octopus on Ozempic looks so good. And he reposted it. Oh, it worked. So I was like, confirmed Ozempic.

We were just talking about that in the break. And I was like, good for everyone. Honestly, good for everyone on Ozempic. It was my dream to just get a miracle drug that just made me skinny. And now that it's here, I'm resisting it. And I don't know why. I'm just trying to be skinny on my own. I'm just trying to be healthy on my own.

I'm just trying to be energetic. Because honestly, I don't mind me being thick. I really have come to terms with being thick. I would like to just be 163 pounds to get into the Givenchy boots. That's all I want to wear

and then I don't because 163 is not skinny. That's still considered fat to a lot of people but I would love to wear those boots. That's it. I envision myself with

that. I told you my dream of the Cybertruck, the boots all of it. We'll get paparazzi. I do see the vision. I do see the vision. We'll go to Topanga to get our little

Wolverine popcorn buckets and someone paparazzi. They will paparazzi. If I had a pink Cybertruck, like, they would for sure. My Rolls Royce always got paparazzi. My G-Wagon got paparazzi. You know what's so funny? I always see so many, like, hate tweets about, like, Cybertrucks and stuff. Like, everyone, like, hates them

and, like, wants to, like, vandalize Cybertrucks or whatever. But like Hates them And like Wants to like Vandalize Cybertrucks Or whatever But I don't know They're cute People are haters I don't know Maybe I'm just

Easily influenced Because I did hate them Until you said That they're cute And then I was like Oh my god you're right I did too Until I saw Kim Kardashian

Next to it I was like Wow she's tiny Yeah I think that was it Like seeing like A cute girl come out of it I was like

Oh I see the whole vision It's working Whatever they paid her To promote it I was like It's working I need a Cybertruck. Didn't he give, like, Elon gave Katy Perry one, too, I think.

He did? I think so. Oh, my God. Elon, give me one. Then I don't have to even lose 80 pounds if he just gives me one. That's true. I'll have to stay fat forever, then. It's fine.

You're not using fat anymore, remember? Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah. You're chunky. You started it. You triggered the fatness conversation. i was repeating what i was someone labeled me okay tell you the truth when you texted me that i did tell moses i feel like if you're married to someone you should just assume they're gonna tell their spouse but that's what i'm telling you our lives are so mundane in a best way in a good

way our lives are very just simple and whatever and i was like oh my god someone called ask her we were ready to jump into the car and show up at the gym we were like but moses gave me the insight that i told you he's like but maybe he meant it as a compliment maybe so that's why i had to do that you know i just mean i don't know the lingo the lingo like i don't know if that's one of the terms you know because there's so many like there's husky and this and that like i don't know which one is the worst i do not want to be husky but i just tell him that but what was the point of me saying that i told you because there was something else to it oh and then he did say he's like wait but i thought we weren't talking about our butt and i was like wow somebody else in the gym that called him chunky so it's fine but we were that was our entertainment for the day that

was our news for the day okay that's why i was kind of living for it because like you know like you said it was pretty like mundane pretty like normal we talked about other people and this one i was like finally have a tail you know what i mean it's not that serious it's not that like you know it's not like that's hannah brooks story but it was serious and i was very i was like this is our news this is okay let me tell moses let me tell you know yeah but we had like did something for the plot which i was like excited about 2019 me if we had this podcast 2019 i guess we'd both be like a little wild because that was my like you'd be canceled with me over and over again i know yeah it would be but you were but you know what that would have been such a good era for us because honestly it could show growth you know what i mean you could have been there with me but yeah yeah anyways that's good i don't know if i

was i wasn't really problematic i was just like i think so me yeah I think that's because you're confrontational like I wasn't I was confrontational I think that's problematic I think if you're confrontational it's problematic I wasn't really the confrontational 2019 I was just more like I just like was more doing stuff for the plot oh my god I did do there's something I regret I was just like sluttier in

2019 I guess there's nothing wrong with that especially for me like I was just getting like zero like 70% of my life and all of a sudden i was like you know skinnier and then i had options all of a sudden love that but the one thing i always regret is i did like i was saying yes to so many dates in 2019 and there was one i was just tired and didn't want to go out so you would think like a normal person be like hey sorry i'm tired like i don't feel like going out instead i gone girl with myself like i came up with this whole story oh my god i don't know why i did i literally regret this to this day because it's just so like mean like i don't know i was like okay like i need to come up with a story so

i came up with a story that i had blood drawn that day and that like i got faint and i fainted but i was like okay he's not gonna believe this i have to show it so i was in the office i went to like the little pen section i got a red pen i like snapped it in half so the ink was dripping i like poured it all over my arm and then i went to the first aid like kit whatever and i got like gauze and bandage and wrapped my arm and like sent a photo of it oh my god which was like why did i do all that and he did the guy didn't even believe it. He was like, okay, bye. He was like, yeah. I'm like, why did I do that?

I regret it to this day. That's kind of wild. It's so out of pocket. I don't remember faked an injury. It's like, why? I could have just said, hey, I'm not feeling up to it right now. Yeah, literally. Or just not.

You could ghost people. That's what I'm saying. Just ghost somebody. You don't need to do it. The ghosting would have been more polite. I think so. That's what I'm saying. Just ghost somebody. You don't need to, like, do – The ghosting would have been more polite than, like – I think so. That's what I'm saying. Ghosting is – that's crazy on both ends.

Like, he's probably like, this guy is not well. I, like, still think about it. I was like, why did I do that? Every time I see, like, a Gone Girl meme, I'm like, why did I Gone Girl myself? First time I've never seen Gone Girl. I thought it was someone who faked their own kidnapping. Yeah, she did. Oh.

But you're – oh, you're faking your injury. Yeah. I've definitely faked it. I definitely haven't told people I. Yeah, she did. Oh. But you're, oh, you're faking your injury. Yeah. I've definitely faked it. I definitely have been told people I kidnapped before, for sure. I mean, I have been kidnapped, but that's like when I was an adult.

But when I was a kid, I used to say I was kidnapped. Oh, yeah. But I actually have been abducted as an adult. But that was more just out of like a strip club. I guess that's still abduction

if it's out of a strip club too. But that's interesting. That's, hmm. I was a little just. You should do that trend on TikTok where it's like, I remember when like I remember when I remember when

I lost my mind that'd be a good one oh my god do you have the picture still I was gonna say maybe in my iCloud somewhere I have like the gotta find it

that's actually kind of crazy but I love that for you I mean that's the vibe I was bringing 2019 we would match each other as freak back then

as they say we match each other as freak back then. As they say. We match each other's freak in Joey Graceffa's vlog from 2015. Oh, my God. I can't believe you found that. That was such a good picture. Oh, I saw the thumbnail was me and Colleen and Joey. And I was like, what the hell is this? And then I clicked on it.

And then I was like, I think you spotted Oscar first. You're like, I think that's him on the couch. I was like, really? That is so funny. Yeah, it's the gift opening where I open the gifts. And Joey just recording everything. He has history there. Can I tell you?

We should talk about Joey. It's Pride Month. We can talk about him too. He can be a hot topic. I had a hot topic note about him. And this is not even me being funny at all, at all. But it's funny not like thinking about it that I thought. So back to music videos and Andrew Valentine. It all ties At all. But it's funny now, like, thinking about it that I thought. Because – so back to music videos and Andrew Valentine.

It all ties in together. The reason I found Andrew Valentine, my music video director, is because Joey used him first. He used him for Colorful and he used him for another music video. And the one I really loved was him and Luke Conard. And there was a girl dancing in the middle of them. And it was called Story of My Life. And I thought, this is such a good song. Like, I can't believe he wrote this song.

I think I know where this is going. Oh, no. And so I loved the video. I thought it was so good i used now i'm in my 1d era and i was like going through the old songs that i like didn't remember because again one direction started in 2010 when again we know 2010 i was also like just not around 2009 to like 2015 i'm clocked out and i'm listening to this song and i was like did they cover a joey graceffa song like this is so wild this ever made me think that it was his song

this whole time. Not just that he did directly to me, but he never gave credit. He didn't say, like, One Direction cover or anything like that. I was like,

I thought it was Joey Graceffa's song the whole time. I was just thinking, I respected Joey so much because of that. I was like, wow, he's such a good songwriter.

That's so good. It's One Direction's song. I was like, put that in your title, Joey. Put One Direction cover. Otherwise, everyone's just gonna think it's Joey Graceffa

and Luke Connors who did this song. Story of my life, I'll take her home. And that was Joey. And I was like, wow, this is so deep. Meanwhile, Harry Styles is the one getting deep with it. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. Not that they wrote it, but.

Anyways, I always thought that was a Joy Graceffa song, and it's not. And I feel so betrayed in so many ways. I think I would have not looked at him so much. I had stars in my eyes every time I looked at him and now I'm like, oh, that wasn't even. Like the artist brought a story of my life.

Yeah. I was like, wait, what? I mean, are you even gay? Or was that just for the plot too? The coming out video? I don't know, but I felt, I felt,

bamboozled. Bamboozled. Oh my God. For sure. It's such a good song, story of my life. That's such a good song. It is a beautiful song

and it holds up. I think Ed Sheeran wrote it actually. Did he? I'm pretty sure. It's such a good song story in my life. That's such a good song. It is. It's a beautiful song and it holds up. I think Ed Sheeran wrote it actually. Did he? I'm pretty sure. Oh, shit. Okay, One Direction, Bamboozled Me. I thought it was Niall. Because Niall, we've been watching The Voice.

All he talks about is being a storyteller and that he writes all these songs. So I thought Niall wrote the song. I was like, because Niall performed it recently. And I was like, oh, maybe he wrote it. I'm trying to, I think. Because I know. Ed Sheeran would make sense. I'm pretty sure Ed wrote that one.

But like Harry and Niall. And I think Zayn also wrote some I know. That's your make sense. I'm pretty sure Ed wrote that one. But like Harry and Niall, and I think Zayn also wrote some of it. Niall does write some of it. Because he always talks about writing songs on The Voice. Well, he's the Irish one. They're the story tellers. Oh, he's also, oh, we mentioned him in The Takeover. Love Niall. I want him on the podcast.

Get him on, Oscar. Tell CAA. They're apparently, if they're getting Austin Butler CAA get us Niall I think he's on tour he's not on The Voice he's not coming back to The Voice

I know yeah he's touring oh ooh he is Zeke get us a spot I think he's in the UK I'm going I guess if he's in Scotland

is he in Scotland maybe I don't know oh my god we gotta get to Scotland to get to the traders and Niall and everyone yeah

but they're Irish but maybe they'll be in Scotland. Yeah, I think, not because they're Irish. They don't go to Scotland. They'll go either place. Ireland, Scotland. Simon Cowell said

he is starting the hunt for like his next One Direction though. That'll never happen. I know. Simon's too soft nowadays. Like he, oh my God. We've been watching

All the Americans Got Talent. He literally picked a dog as the winner and the dog won. The dog won. And all the dog did was skip around. I mean, it was impressive, but I'm like, you're going to be the most talented thing in the whole world is this dog.

I mean, you're going to Vegas. There's Cirque du Soleil and there's a dog. A dog. And Simon was like praising this dog. I'm like, what happened to you? He doesn't critique anyone that's bad anymore. He's just like, he does golden buzzers for everybody. Like, what did we watch last night?

It was like them with like drones in the sky and he gave him a golden buzzer and i was like yeah it was literally like 100 drones and moses i guess thought it was cool but it wasn't that cool it's like i mean it's cool but it's not a talent it's just a lot of drone in the sky you can do any image yeah how are you gonna do that in videos and sometimes like golden buzzer i'm not allowed to do this because it's my second one but i'm gonna do it i was like okay yeah simon's wild he's like not good anymore i don't think he could find talent like that again. And, you know, what's funny is, like, on X Factor, Nicole Scherzinger was the one that, like, really put them together.

Oh. So why did Simon get the credit? Because it's his show? Because it's his show. Then he was in charge of the boy of the groups that season. So, like, they were, like, his act, I guess. But Nicole said they should all be together. Yeah, like, Nicole was the one that helped, like, put them all, like, together. And, like, Katy Perry

is the one that, like, sent Niall through, I think. Oh. Yeah. On what show? X Factor. Oh, she was on that show, too? She was, like, a guest judge, like, during the auditions. And she wanted Niall's to go through. Yeah, so really, like, Katy Perry and Nicole Scherzinger, like, these are the ones. Yeah, okay. I'm excited taking the girls' credits.

That's some bullshit. He, like, obviously, like, managed them or whatever, like, them or whatever after the show and pushed them or whatever. He didn't really put them together. Yeah, it wasn't just him. It lowers a lot of pieces to the puzzle. I think Niall's the true star of the show. Now that I watch The Voice, I'm like, oh, God, I love him. I would pick Team Niall all the way.

He's not on The Voice. I'm not watching The Voice. Adam Levine's back when Niall's out. No, thank you. No, thank you. Niall is very, very sweet and charming. I like his solo music, too. Never heard of songs, but I like him.

I like his voice. I like the way he talks. He's cool. Everything else is... I don't know. They have weird judges on this season. Anyways, we all love the old one. I like it. Team Niall. Team Niall all the way. I know, and I guess Simon was also saying on another podcast today, his big regret about One Direction is he doesn't own the name. I know. And I guess Simon was also saying on another podcast today, like, his big regret about

One Direction is he doesn't own the name. He's like, technically, like, each of the members, each owns an equal percentage of the name. So he's like, I can never do, like, a cartoon or something because of. But you shouldn't because you're not One Direction. I know. It'd be, like, sick. It's giving Lou Pearlman vibes because Lou Pearlman was like the sixth member of the Backstreet Boys.

So he was able to own a percentage. Same thing with NSYNC. He was like the sixth member of NSYNC. So that's how he got all the money. So Simon's trying to pull a Lou Pearlman or something and be like, I also should get some piece of this. I'm sure he feels like he owns it,

you know, but who knows? I mean, he made ungodly amounts of money from that and the show. And the talent shows he owned. Like, chill out. You're doing fine. When people have so much money and they're just trying to get more money it's just like how much money do you need you're gonna die in like 30 years so it's like do you need that much money what are

you gonna do with it like and it's probably those same people who just say i'm not gonna get my kids any money they gotta work for it it's like okay so then what are you doing yeah yeah it felt like a little gross it's like you know yeah because he's like yeah and um if one because they all own equal percentage like if one of them doesn't want a tour then the tour can't happen um but that's good too it's like a checks and balance they're all a group you know what i mean like they're all equal parts of the band you know they are because i even though harry styles is the star and he's the breakout star it's like is he any like i don't know who's the who's the less significant one um liam liam what's liam doing you know what i mean but it's like, is he any, like, I don't know. Who's the less significant one? Liam.

Liam. What's Liam doing? You know what I mean? But it's like, but they're equal in one direction. You know what I mean? Like, Liam probably could use the money, but, like, they're equal in one direction. If Harry doesn't want to do it, then. Yeah.

Unless one day he becomes, like, a Justin Timberlake and he's Flap Tropica and he has to go back to one direction. Then it's bad. Yeah. Because Liam and Louis, more so I think Liam actually, like is really, you know, he pushes the narrative, like reunion or whatever. But Simon said he doesn't think it's actually, like it would ever happen. I guess probably because of. Harry.

Yeah. He's like, I'm too big. But it's good. Yeah. And I can't see Harry being disrespectful like Justin was to Brittany. I feel like he's a respectful king, so he won't get canceled for anything, hopefully. Yeah, I agree. I think he's like, when he was younger, he was a little bit more playboy.

But I think as an adult, he's like chilled out and like is very polite to everyone. We should do a hairstyles episode where we dress as hairstyles. Oh, I would love that actually. When is that? When is that? I don't know. We still have to do our Hunger Games. Now that we'll have two Hot Topics a week.

Oh, yeah, that's true. We have so many opportunities. I love it. Someone said, because I love dressing drag. First of all, I would do like a boy hairstyles for sure. Oh,, that's true. We get so many opportunities. I love it. Someone said, because I love dressing drag, first of all, I would do like a boy Harry Styles for sure. Oh yeah, some pink outfits.

Anyways, besides the point, someone said, everyone's asking who should play young Haymitch in the new Hunger Games and someone said me and drag. Trisha Paytas in drag,

and it has like a million views on it. Oh it does? It went viral. My boyfriend even sent it to me. I was like, wow, that's how you know. That's actually kind of perfect.

Yeah. I do look, I look more closer to his age now but I still do it for sure I love that they're doing a Haymitch movie or book I guess it's not a movie yet but

book to movie oh it is yeah they got both at the same time basically so okay I'm gonna like it even more I think than the

Coriolanus is that how you say his name I almost wanted to name if we had a son I almost put that as like a name for his son Coriolanus what a good name

it's so good you don't like it I like it the anus part throws me off is it Coriolanus I think you're right but it sounds

I like when like when his sister like Hunter Schaefer was like Corio like when she would call him Corio that's a cute choreography

but yeah but I like that that's cute oh I can't wait I can't wait for it oh man I know me too and it's like, man. I know. Me too. And it's like, it pays off being a Hunger Games stan because it's living.

It's not like Twilight. Twilight, there's nothing left to really get excited about. Yeah, this just keeps going. And that was a perfect one because everyone loves Haymitch. He's like the best. Yeah, I feel like it's like the most requested one that people have wanted to see. Because we want to see him in his prime on Hunger Games. And his story sounded good. There was a very

popular YouTube video where they almost made that story. It was very Joey Graceffa vibes. They did a whole production. It was them in the arena, the black shirts. Someone played a young Haymitch. How do you know they wore black shirts in Haymitch's era?

I think they were just going based off of the vibe that we got at the time. They made it up out of nothing well they like in catching fire the book they talk a little bit about like what hamish's hunger games were so someone took that and like made it into a youtube like dedication yes that is very joey campaigning so people have been wanting it for a long time so i'm excited i think you could be in it who could i play you would be like it. Who could I play? You would be like an intellectual Hunger Games person. There was one guy with glasses in one of the – was it the second one or something?

And he was smart, right? Oh, yeah. You could be like that kind of person. But in the Haymitch era, you know what I mean? Like young. With your computer. I think as I see you with your computer and glasses, I'm like you're – and you are intellectual. You'd be like an editor.

You edit the game or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They did like in the – even in the – In the Capitol? Yeah. Yeah. Even when they cut to like the little control room or whatever.

Yeah. And like flipping through the – Ooh. That could be in Five Nights at Freddy's too. That could be a cameo for you. Oh, yeah. Tea. You could be an editor.

Yeah. And then I'll be in the Burger King employee. I think that'd be fun. We got to get cameos in that movie. I'm so in for that. And you could be the young Effie Trinket. Oh my God. I would die.

Is she in that? Would she be in that? She's around Haymitch's age. So I think she could be in it technically. Did they know each other? I don't think so. But I think she could make it up. Suzanne Collins could make it up if she wanted to.

But again, I'm not going to be young by that point. I'm going to be like actual of her age in the Hunger Games. But that would be so good. I do love her character. I wish I could have been her character in those movies. Yeah, it is very just rich coded. Yeah. There's so many shows where I'm like, oh, you haven't watched.

Oh, The British King comes out this week. Oh, yeah. There's so much this week. We've been re-watching the first season now, which is like, I don't know. Like, I don't understand why I got so hyped the first season because like, it's good. Everyone's good. But kind of the two leads kind of don't have chemistry. I think out of the three of them, I mean, I haven't seen the third one yet.

But from what I know, I feel like the third, they probably, it's like the least like hot. I feel like season two especially. The first season's less hot. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Season two especially, they have really, really good chemistry. And like Nicola is like so close with her co-star like in real life.

So I feel like they would probably have good chemistry. Yeah. Yeah. They're so good. Oh my God. The third season is the best. I don't know if it's because she's like, I see myself in her, and I'm like, I want to be that character so bad. But the third season is just so,

so good. I can't wait for it. The first season's good. It's definitely good, but it's like, you know, I don't know. It's good. It's good. I just, I remember it being so hyped, so I thought it was going to be like, oh, yeah, I don't know. I guess it's like less sexual, so I don't like it as much. Is, um, what's his name? The guy from Wicked, is he in the first season? He is. He's like one of the brothers, so he is in it a little. He is? I don't like it as much. Is, is, um, what's his name? The guy from Wicked.

Is he in the first season? He is. He's like one of the brothers so he is in it a little. I don't recognize him at all because I kept looking and I'm like, where is he? He's in there somewhere.

He like has a small part. He's in like the family. Um, he must look so different because I'm like, oh my, doesn't he look like I do? Yeah, I can't remember. Like I know he was in it

but I can't really like remember. I was like looking too and I was like, and it says his like name but I was like, okay. And it was, it was what, 2020? I mean, how, I can't really like remember I was like looking too and I was like and it says his like name but I was like okay I don't know and it was it was what 2020 I mean how

I can't imagine him looking that different I guess because it was only a couple years I know the second one is his right okay

I have to watch the second season well we'll finish the first the first isn't bad it's good it's good the guy is good the guy is good

I just feel like their chemistry is like not great but maybe because there's not a lot of I did read an article about Roger

Roger Jean Page I love the name about how I think he's trying to like great but maybe because there's not a lot of i did read an article about um roger roger jean page i love the name um about how i think he's trying to like recover from like leaving bridgerton and then like being in flop tropica with all his movies honestly i love being in it i love being the queen of flop tropica i love being a member a citizen i love all of it there's nothing wrong with it i think when people flop, it's iconic. I think with him, like, he had just bets on being a movie star. And then, like, the – he was in two. He was in one, like – he was in Dungeons and Dragons, I want to say, which was with Chris Pine.

It was supposed to be, like, a big budget kind of thing. Awful, yeah. But I guess in the article it said that he didn't, like, like the movie. He kind of had, like, a bad attitude about it. Oh. And then he was in another, like, Netflix one with, like, Chris Evans, like, an action like the movie. He kind of had like a bad attitude about it. And then he was in another like Netflix one with like Chris Evans like an action kind of movie but he didn't have like a big like role

in it. So he like hedged his bets on being a movie star and it didn't work out but also kind of like a bad attitude so. Yeah the bad attitude is always awful too. I think like hmm yeah we read something in an article that he left because he didn't want to be typecasted. Oh. But I was kind of like I feel like didn't want to be typecasted. Oh.

But I was kind of like – I feel like it's going against the typecast by putting you in – you know, by being in Bridgerton. You know what I mean? So I was kind of like, that's kind of weird. Like, I don't think you'd be typecasted as like a – is he British in real life? Maybe. Regé sounds French. French. Maybe French. Yeah.

I was like, I feel like that's not really like – I don't know. He said he didn't want to be typecasted, but I feel like that's not really a typecast. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, all the characters, they're all not typecasted, which is what's great about the show, right? Yeah. It's against the typecast but it's also just like being a part

of like a franchise in general is like good yeah like don't leave don't leave that show that is crazy to me because even the who's the guy in Wicked

what's his name Jonathan Bailey Jonathan Bailey he's in the third season yes so he obviously is in Wicked but it's like

let me not also and Wicked and Jurassic Park so he's franchised up right franchise is the way I want to be in a franchise that is where it's like, let me not also. And Wicked and Jurassic Park. So he's franchised up. Franchise is the way. I want to be in a franchise. That is where it's at. Yeah, how do we get in there? Honestly, we just got to get in there that one time and then you play a small role and

then they like need you for like another movie. Everything, yeah. Even the small roles, being in it, like damn. They see you and then they want you to be the big thing. I know. I want to be British in a movie and I want to be naked in one movie. Okay, work. Yeah.

Nicola's naked in the next second half of this. I'm very excited. She keeps talking about how she's naked. That's what I always want to be. I just want to be naked. I said that with Chelsea Lynn. Chelsea Lynn, yeah. I was like, I want to be naked.

That's always been my goal too. I would love to be – I think in the first season of British and there's like art models, like naked art models. I was like, I could have been in that. Especially that era. They always had bellies on their models and stuff like that. I could have been in that. So that's my goal. I want to be British. I want to be that. Nicola's also playing a fairy

in a new upcoming movie. Did you see that? Oh, no. It's like a tavern movie. What? Nicola's playing a fairy. She posted about it. And Baby Reindeer star is in it. No. The girl. I don't know her name. She also was Pride. She also came out as lesbian. Love that. but they're both

like in this like tavern style movie playing fairies I know everyone's listening to me everyone's listening to me excluding you from the narrative they're excluding me from the narrative I don't understand why everyone's bypassing me I'm just like it's so annoying you should at least get credit

you know get royalties you should just get royalties i should get credit i don't need royalties i just need credit and shout out to andy valentine he did a special thanks to me in the madishina family which we talked about earlier there's a special thanks to trisha paytas he like he i didn't obviously watch the credits he screenshotted and showed me he's like i gave a special thanks to it i was like oh my god why and he's like because all your music videos helped me become a better director oh my god that's very proud i was so proud of him because he had two movies that he directed and one's

called The Letterman with Garrett Clayton and I don't think that's streaming anywhere and then the I keep saying it wrong. I don't know. I literally looked it up but I don't know how to pronounce it but the Maraschina family and he directed that too and I was like so happy. It's so cool to see. Also why wasn't I in it though? I was kind of like also he had Patrick Starr have a

cameo. Really? I was like, um. Okay. I paid $10 million at least. Not to him, but to the budget or whatever. Oh, my God. So, anyways, it was nice. What did Patrick Starr play?

Um, he was kind of like himself. He was like this rainbow queen in, like, one of the party scenes. There was all, it was like a little gay party everyone was having. You could have been at the gay party for sure. I could have been at the gay party. Because I wasn't invited back then. I guess that was, yeah. Maybe it was just gay and not queer.

Maybe I wasn't invited, you know. I guess so. Gays only, no queers. Were there any like ladies in it or was it all just gay? Yeah, the girl from Schitt's Creek, the one that's like the, oh, I've seen Schitt's Creek, damn it.

Which, but I know the people. She's like David's friend. She's the one that like, she's like his best man at his wedding. Oh, so she's in it? Yeah, she's in it. He has actually some pretty popular people that Juan Pablo from Fuller House. Gary Clayton has like a little man at his wedding. Oh, so she's in it? Yeah, she's in it. He has actually some pretty popular people that want Pablo

from Fuller House. Gary Clayton has like a little cameo in it and yeah. So yeah, so like a lesbian couple trying to have a baby. Then there's like,

oh, Heather Matarazzo, do you know her? She was the girl from Princess Diaries that was like a best friend. I never saw Princess Diaries. I saw a clip of her being the best friend.

I mean like, who did that to your hair? It's so ugly. You look ridiculous. You should sue. Okay okay so wow that's actually kind of everything but like that's her best friend in the movie because all the comments were like she's an awful friend and i was like yeah was she a villain was she ended up being me she was just like very self-absorbed and like but she she comes around and she um is like the best friend in the sequel so she sticks around dump her right away even though driver was like uh don't put up with that

can make you feel inferior without your consent. Wow, you are Princess Diaries' Stan. I love that movie. Never saw. I didn't see clips of it. Heather Matarazzo was also in Hostile Part 2. Did you ever see that one? Mm-mm.

You would hate that one because that's just like men killing women. It's kind of like everything. Yeah. The first one. Oh, wait. No, no, no. The first one is like, yeah, Hostile. I don't know.

I never saw the first one. The second one I saw, and yeah, it's like women and then the guys like pay to – anyways, it's kind of gross and disgusting. However, Eli Roth, who again should put me in a movie. I've literally known him since I was 18. Not personally, but like personally kind of. I know him somewhat. He has Hostel, the TV series coming out with Paul Giamatti starring in it.

And anything Paul Giamatti does like turns to like gold. So Eli, I would like to be casted. I've known you since I was 18. We're cool. I've always talked highly of you I've known you since I was 18 we're cool I've always talked highly of you like you know put me in something at least like a cameo

or something yeah something the people want to see it uh huh I don't know why he's I don't know don't be a

don't be Flop Topica put me in it it's just like so crazy when you know people and you're just like why am I not in this movie why did I not get there you know what I mean one day it, why am I not in this movie? Why did I not get there? You know what I mean?

One day. It very much escaped the night complex. Oh, Mike, don't even get me started on that. Joey is Joey forever on my canceled list for not putting me as good. Like people you put in twice. Like there was people that were in there twice. Like Rosanna. Love Rosanna.

Happy birthday, by the way. She's everything. And she sent me flowers. She's great. But like Gabby in it twice. Colleen in it twice. I just seen. Yeah, I was like, you couldn't put me in it once? Like that's wild. And I was me flowers. She's great. But like Gabby in it twice. Colleen in it twice. I just seen. I was like you couldn't put me in it once? Like that's

wild. And I was very popular back then so I don't understand but it's totally fine. But I see these movies and I'm just like oh my god one day you'll be directing a movie and won't put me in it. It's crazy. My best friend Jeff is doing Thanksgiving too and I was like do I have a part? He's like

probably not. I was like okay. Fair enough. We also talked about this because I have a part? He's like, probably not. I was like, OK. Fair enough. Oh, wait. We also talked about this because I have a lot of gay news and we didn't talk about it. Chris Colfer said that coming out would ruin his career. Oh, yeah. I saw him say that. Like, was it a podcast or something?

Yeah. And I was kind of like, wait, but you're so gay. I know. That'd be like me saying coming out would ruin my career. It's like. Don't tell people. Yeah. Even like my parents. Like, I never had to come out to like my parents because it was just like yeah you know what i mean

it was just like and i feel like chris colfer probably the same boat as me it's like you just are what you are you know i think people just know and it's fine and whatever and i just like yeah but i just was like that was kind of wild i was like um i don't think i'm gonna make your career yeah and there's some like because there's some like older actors i guess that are like kind of like they're not like they're like low-key about it like they're not like keeping it super secret but they're just like low-key about it and like i get like maybe the big coming out would be for them because they play like they're in you know huge franchises and they play straight men or whatever but look like a jonathan bailey like he's out and he's in jurassic park yeah he's out of the closet is he like proud out like yeah like he goes to like

gay events and stuff he's like yeah okay um he's very like cheeky ever like uh my co-worker who interviewed him for the bridgerton premiere like he was so like flirty and cheeky i was like oh my god i kind of love that did you see austin butler flirting with the australia like i was confused though because he's still with Kaya Gerber. Do we know? We don't know. I guess we don't know for sure but. He was just like

Lucia have we met before? I was like oh my god that's what I emailed. Get me Austin Butler. He seems fun. He seems like you know goofy silly and she's like

oh no this interview is about you. He's like oh I don't like questions about myself. I know. Okay Austin Butler. I was gagged. She also looked like a model

but. She was gorg yeah. It would have been different like again if it was like a me or like a baby reindeer or something you know what I mean. But, Austin Butler. I was gagged. She also looked like a model, but. She was gorg. Yeah. It would have been different, like, again, if it was, like, a me or, like, a baby reindeer or something. You know what I mean? But also, like, with dark hair. Like, very Kaia Gerber coded.

Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, Vanessa Hutchins. Well, you know, usually guys with light eyes and light hair, they usually like that. Like, opposites. You know, me too. I usually like guys that are, like, dark eyes, dark hair. I don't know. Because it'd be weird to, like, someone that looks like you, right?

Yeah. I don't know. I guess I have dated people like that. But whenever I saw someone with, like, blue eyes, I would never like it because it's like what I have. Oh, interesting. And so there's like this weird almost like repellent. I don't know.

Yeah. That I didn't like or like blonde hair in general. I don't like light. Except Niall. He's great. I love him so much. How old is he? Maybe he can be in my tavern show.

I think he's my age, but 31, 32. Crazy they're in their 30s like i literally think of them as like boys because again i wasn't around i really really don't remember one direction like hand god don't remember one direction at all ever coming out and i remember them on james court and i saw them like the first time on there but i was like they always seem like little boys to me and now i'm like oh my god they're like men it's like crazy um individually like zane um released a song recently and he's done like some press. So maybe we can get Zayn.

He's been doing some interviews. No. I only want Niall or Harry. Harry is – I don't know where he's at. He must be releasing something soon because he's been like very – Quiet. Yeah. Maybe he can come on our Harry episode when we're dressed up.

Oh, yeah. I think I have a little pink jumpsuit he wore I think I want to wear. Yeah. He has had some serious looks. He had a good rainbow one too, the rainbow yeah was that the coachella one yeah yeah i think all my looks are coachella looks the pink ones i think are coachella his last tour he had really good ones too i think love on tour is what it was called love on tour yeah oh sick geek i want to go to that too it was over but he literally had like a residency in l.a he played for like two months

straight at the forum did you go no wait because it was really expensive and like it was the same time as era's tour like went on sale so i like held out you know i can't wow you picked taylor over harry well yeah taylor's like my but harry's like a hot boy i saw him one i had like a hardcore harry era like his first tour got over it i got i think i that happens to me a lot i go through maybe very you know yeah even like a ted i feel like i i am not like as even like a hassan lately i think after like i talked to austin like i'm like you know what like you you can keep him you know what i mean maybe did they because like harry taylor's giving you attention maybe because harry hasn't like given the attention but when i went to interview or i didn't do the interview i just went to like be there but harry gave me attention he's like oh i like your shirt oh yeah so he did give it to me you didn't get the picture yeah oh no i did get the photo i have a photo with harry

with harry styles yeah show it i need to see it right now that's everything are you with your arm is your arm around him or is he around you around me it was at the american music awards skinny first of all if some guy can fit his arm around my shoulder, I'm like, wow, impressive. I was big, though. I was like a bigger boy. It was my big boy era. And he still had his arm around you, though. That's even more impressive.

A lot of times, they don't let you do it. Wow. I was like this. You could have been that big. But the girl, shout out Kelty Knight from E! News.

Oh, Kelty. Ari does her makeup, too. Oh, really? Yeah, it's a full circle. She was doing the interviews and I went with her. Like, I was a, was I intern?

I think I was just interning, actually, at E!T. And she did the interviews and I was like, I just love a was that intern I think I was just interning actually at ET and she did the interviews and I was like I just love Harry like if I can get a photo and she came through like she was like can you get a photo with you like he loves you and yeah so she really came through and she took the angle the photo from high up so I looked like oh perfect but then also it could look almost like you're too short you know sometimes the way the high angle looks like I'm like three feet which is fine but I also don't want to look like I'm three feet. And Harry's also taller than me.

And he had a big hat. So that also kind of made me look smaller. Ooh, love. I need to see this photo. Do you have it easy to bring up? I think so. I think it's on my Instagram somewhere. Oh, my God.

I want to see this. Most of his eyes are like glazed over. I look over and he's just like. You have nothing to add to the Harry Styles conversation. Do you know who he is? Yes. Oh, how do you know him? We talk about him all the time.

He's kind of famous. Do you know him from anything? His songs, his music, his movies? I think he had a song that was viral on TikTok. Watermelon Sugar. Watermelon Sugar. Watermelon sugar. Definitely that one. And something else.

We saw the movie. Oh, okay. There you go. Yeah. That was, that's what made me really like him. I was like, that movie's pretty good. Yeah. I mean, I, to me, it was like A-list actor.

It was like. Yeah. He was so good in that. That girl was cray cray. She was trying to get out of that life. I was like, girl, stay in Pleasantville. Like that is the place I want to be. That was crazy.

She wanted to leave there. I was like, this guy stay in Pleasantville. Like that is the place I want to be. That was crazy. She wanted to leave there. I was like, this guy is like hot. He comes home. He makes the money. He just wants to have sex with you all the time. And she's like, let me out of here. I hate this place. I was like, what a weird movie.

And that's a bit misogynistic, but you could tell it's like kind of female directed. It's like, it's like this feminist like message, but also like, I want to stay that way. I want to be the neighbor. You know what I mean? Just like, I'm staying here in my happy world. Yeah. I think the message was about. You know what I mean? Just like I'm staying here in my happy world. Yeah, I think the message was about women's free will, I think. Yeah, okay. I mean, if Harry

Sadler is the husband that just wants to have sex with you all the time, my free will is stay here. Yeah, exactly. You can have the free will to enjoy that. It's true, yeah. If that's what you want, go for it. Right, that's the Barbie message. That's like, you know, you don't have to be, right, whatever. I mean, it's good. I don't know. I don't really get those kind of movies, but I liked it. Here is the photo.

It looked crazy, but. Oh my goodness. I was gagged. What's your face? Were you like. I was gagged. I was like. Oh, that's what it was?

Yeah. Because in my head, I was like. I always did the shocked face and like meet and greets or whatever. Because I'm like, it makes me look skinnier. Because then I have. I don't look as round. I like. That was my strategy.

You look. Trouble is this. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a great one. What year is that? 20? That's everything. 13?

I would think you were the famous person. Yeah, okay. I like that. He's also doing the shocked face. Right, right. Okay, I see that. Yeah, he kind of has that face too. You're like the Harry Daniels back then.

You're like the celebrity. I was. You're like Sabrina Carpenter. That is impressive, actually. I wish I had that R You're like every celebrity. I kind of was. Yeah. You're like Sabrina Carpenter. That is impressive actually. I wish I had that Rolodex of pictures. I like don't. I would be flashing them all the time like throwback Thursday.

That's really cool. That is actually really cool. Damn. I want to do that. I need to go to interviews. What were you just interviewing with the Kelty? Yeah. I was just there.

It's like I was like a PA or no intern at the time. So like I would ask like go on shoots or whatever. And then you were just there. You could like take photos for like the hosts or whatever so that's so cool yeah it was fun to just be there i was that was back in the day i was so excited i was like i want to just go yeah now i'm like i don't want to really oh i would love to for like celebrities it depends on the event like i don't know it would have to be someone i love because it's just like so much work like like a sabrina for sure yeah like another sabrina thing yeah you you're one of your hair people no there's her hair right yeah yeah well actually yeah he

he's full-time with her now and i would like that'd be so great but i don't think it would well we know that's the thing i'm so close to people who are close to people you know what i mean like he knows someone who's like tight with lenny who like brings up lenny kravitz all the time really close. You did say something. You're like, can you come on the podcast? Did you ask him

to come on the podcast or was it just like? Oh, yeah, I told him. You did? I would love to have him on the podcast. Because he's close with this person and this person is really close with Lenny.

And so I was like, wow, like, is it weird to be like, can he come on? I don't know. Maybe on our Hunger Games episode he can come on. Oh, tea, yeah.

Yeah, that'd be everything. I would love to get like Josh Hutcherson for a Hunger Games episode too. Yeah, how yeah that'd be everything I would love to get like Josh Hutcherson for a yeah how do we get that that's a great question CAA

CAA get on it is he with them or Harry Daniels whoever gets to him first Harry Daniels is the connection he is I think Harry Daniels did sing to him actually

to Josh Hutcherson really yeah where what did he sing on the street he sang the whistle song by Flo Rida

that's right I remember because I didn't know that meme and then I had to like look it up and I was like okay that's kind of everything

yeah I love it Harry is like boots on the ground for real we love Harry Daniels he's here this week but we missed him

because we only filmed one day this week I know so any other time we're gonna film two days a week but yeah

he'll be back though for sure we love Harry Daniels who's your queer of the week by the way speaking of queer of the week oh gosh

oh man I should have thought about this more I know Harry Styles maybe is he queer of the week, by the way? Speaking of. Queer of the week. Oh, gosh. Oh, man. I should have thought about this more. I know. Harry Styles, maybe? Is he part of the community? I don't know. I mean, I don't think he's come out one way or another. So, yeah, he could be considered.

Yeah. Oh, you know what? How about I pick one someone close to me? Andy Valentine, my director. Oh, gee. Okay. Yeah. He is my queer of the week because he did a great queer film.

And he's just good all around. He's always been. Like, for my videos, too. Like, Cinderella. Like, we always had same-sex couples in there dancing. Like we've always been a little like cutting edge,

you know what I mean? Like I just always liked it and not even making it a big storyline, not even making a big deal, just like, oh, there's like, you know, two guys dancing together in Cinderella or two girls or whatever.

I always liked that. I love that. He's an ingenue. He's a visionary and he's queer and we love it and he's very, he's very adamant about it and talks about it in all his films.

And I love Andy Valentine and I would love him on and he's great and he's wonderful. And, um, our daughters play together and it's really cute. I love him. And, uh,

he's always been really nice. You always know, like I told you if he was, I know like you don't say that about gay people, like if they were straight, but like honestly, he's that one that is like, just always been so kind to me.

So patient. Like, you know, I've had a falling out with literally everyone I've ever worked with. Like I always have like, especially back in the day, I was a hothead. like if they were straight but like honestly he's that one that is like just always been so kind to me so patient like you know I've had a falling out with literally everyone I've ever worked with like always have like especially back in the day I was a hothead

I was a hothead with Andy Valentine but he's he restores my faith in Gemini he's a Gemini and he's just always been so sweet

like he always understands even if I've had like breakdowns or like I shout or I scream he always like understood and like yeah he's very patient very sweet

and I love him and he really is like the ideal guy before Moses I was like damn Andrew Valentine's really the very sweet, and I love him. And he really is like the ideal guy. Before Moses, I was like, damn, Andrew Valentine's really the ideal guy. And yeah, I love him. He's my queer of the week. How about you? I think it's going to be Austin's show.

Austin's show really restored my faith in the twunk community. Yeah. A pillar of the community, if you will. Maybe we have him on. You know? What is this? Did I do it right? Yeah.

Yeah. I know. I do. He's like best friends with like Cutie and Hassan. But honestly, I might have to boot Hassan, just Cutie and Austin. Okay. Really. No straighties.

I don't know. We do not need Hassan anymore. I'm almost pulling like a week, like you at the weekend when you stop. That's how I'm feeling, honestly. I was like, you know what? More hard to get. Yeah. I'm going to be like, I hate One Direction. Oh, they're so untalented. stop that's how i'm feeling honestly i was like you know what like more hard to get yeah i hate

one direction oh they're so untalented because cutie and austin both follow me like via me and they're so sweet but someone hasn't followed back so you know what i'm sticking to to my girlies austin and cutie so the literal girlies yeah we love them i like that in my head they're like very like us coded because like they're like a little duo and like they're cute you know what i mean so it's like yeah i'm like you guys get the vibe like a girl who has like a really hot has uh no they're just boyfriend girlfriend really hot boyfriend really successful boyfriend she's so successful in this situation yes exactly and like just like a really fun gay he's like the cooler hotter me i think i think you sell yourself sure i feel like you are the cooler hotter gay in

every scenario i I think so. I don't know. I can't think of one right now that could be even you with Troye Sivan. I would say you. And you know I love Troye Sivan. I love him. But I still would pick you for sure. And I think you have the personality that goes with it. So

I go with your self-deprecation but I always am like he knows. Because I self-deprecate too but I'm like I am really attractive. Like I do know I always am like, he knows. Because I self-deprecate, too, but I'm like, I am really attractive. Like, I do know I'm more attractive than the most. And I feel like you know you're more attractive than the most people. I think it depends on the circumstance. Like, the guy I was talking about earlier, I was like, I'm cuter than you. But, like, if I'm next to, like, an Austin, I'm like, no.

Really? I don't know what Austin looks like, but. He's just, like, a very, like, classically, like, attractive guy. Does he look like Austin Butler? Like a cousin maybe yeah same family

yeah same family for sure yeah and he's like ripped yeah but see I don't love ripped see ripped loses points

for me not to say on him but I'm saying in general yeah like you're fit you're fit I don't know

I've never seen you in a crop top or anything but you should you know if you want I'm not saying you should but if you wanted to

so I don't know it's hard to tell but you look very fit you look very toned just based on what want. I'm not saying you should, but if you wanted to. So I don't know. It's hard to tell, but you look very fit. You look very toned. Just based on what you say. I'm like, well, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what. It doesn't matter.

Don't need to comment on coworkers' bodies, but. You know, I don't know. I love your description. That's so funny. So I think you're in the top caliber of gays in the world. That is so sweet. Yeah. Wow, me over Troye Sivan.

That's a big. Yeah, Sivan. That's a big. Yeah, for sure, for sure. That's a big accomplishment. I didn't even think of a gay person that I would pick over you. No, I can't. Troye's my number one. So I don't know. That's it.

You're number one. Always and forever. Speaking of Troye Sivan, his good friend, Charlie XCX. So fellow gay icon, Charlie XCX. That's his friend? Yeah, they're going on tour together. Like their tour

is a joint tour. It's like Charlie and Troy together. We should cosplay them. That is such a good idea. Okay, we gotta find their cosplay. Shared in the shared album.

Oh my God. That would be everything. She will go to the tour when they're here. Are you Troy or are you Charlie? That's a good question. I don't know

what she works. I'll be Charlie. I'll be Troy. I don't know. Troy's very skinny. I was gonna say that's. I don't know what she wears. I'll be Charlie. I'll be Troy. I don't know. Troy's very skinny. I was going to say. That's why I was trying to get to Charlie. You're skinnier.

I was going to get to Charlie because it would be hard to do. He's just shirtless. Right? Or he wears little crop tops, I guess, with like jeans. Oh, yeah. I always think of – did he play Timothee Chalamet or did Timothee Chalamet play him? Timothee Chalamet played him. I was thinking Timothee Chalamet or did Timothee Chalamet play him? Timothee Chalamet played him. I always think of Timothee Chalamet as Troye Sivan.

That's how I envision it. Okay. I can almost cross my legs, everybody. We're getting there. That is fierce. Yeah. That's when I will have my own talk show when I can cross my legs like Wendy. It's getting there.

I haven't been able to do that in a while. I mean, it's a little bit thick, but you know. No, it's fully there, I think. No, I think it needs to just flop down a little more. It needs to go straight like that. Oh, I see. But we'll get there once the thighs go down.

I feel like Wendy now that I can cross my legs again. Okay, so tell me. It's very cute. Thank you. Is that me? Charlie XCX. Not XQC. You do get the confused a little bit. It's kind of the same. It is very similar. Yeah. So she released her new album

Brat. It's like the gay album right now yeah it's pretty wild what's it stand for i didn't hear it just it's just brat like you know being bratty you know yeah um but i feel like it's like you know the party gay like she's a party girl so like the party guys really like the new kesha yeah actually you're right very that vibe okay um because like all the tweets about it it's like people that are like having sex and brats playing in the background it's like yeah it's like they're and the color is like lime green the color of the album so it's like they're painting their schlongs lime green and yeah it's very okay well the fans are a little rowdy because she was at an event and like there's this viral video of fans like shoving poppers in her face as she's like walking oh my god wait okay okay so it's

like that's what like there's a big controversy about it really you can get them over the counter i guess i don't think you can just pop advil in someone's face though yeah right yeah so like there's a big controversy about it because she is like the party girl and like in 2019 her last album um it was a similar controversy because people were bringing like a douche popper someone brought their like mom's ashes like the mean greeds and she was like signing them and doing photos and everyone's like is this too much is it crossing a line like is this disrespectful and then charlie released a statement saying like she's fine she doesn't care about any of this stuff like she, okay. Like, she'll sign whatever. But that's signing.

That's not, like, sniffing something as you go by. Yeah. Was her nostrils crazy? Or are they just, like, flared? It's hard. The video is so short. Oh, okay. And she's, like, walking in a crowd.

So you just see someone, like, shove the bottle up her face as she's, like, trying to walk That's like assault, I think. I think it's a little too far, right? I think definitely. Yeah. Like, I know she's a cool girl. And, like, she's, like, you know, she's, like, she's like degassed whatever i feel like that's like okay let's have some i think signing something yeah weird like i don't know if i'd sign someone's ashes but like that's

whatever that's one thing because she has consent over it as opposed to like shoving something you know right she does have consent when she's signing yeah i think just shoving anything in someone's face someone shoved like a pizza in my face i'd be like what the are you doing you know what i mean that's a popper. So no, that's a no-go. I think even if she says she's okay with it, that's the way,

absolutely not. That's actually not okay. Even though you think it's okay, you know? Yeah. Boundaries for sure. Yeah. I had someone pour

poppers down my mouth once. I think on accident, I think, I hope. But it was like very traumatic. Damn, your mouth thought you had a sniff it. What are you, what's in it?

Yeah, I think he was trying to like, I get, 21, 20, this was like 2015. So i was like bigger and yeah anyway um you know my weight that's not what my timeline is but i remember he was like and this was like he was like a skinny like skater guy whatever so i was like just like you know as i was just like whatever like i'm down for anything but anyway he was like trying to like tilt it to my face i think and i was like laying down and like spilled like into like my mouth what's even in it liquid it's called like it might be different now because it's been a while but i remember like you have when you went to go buy it you had to say it was vhs cleaner i don't i don't

so it was like almost like a gasoline i I remember tasting like gasoline. Back in 2015? Yeah. So it wasn't like on the shelves. It was like behind the shelves that you had to go to the register and be like, can I have like VHS cleaner? Wait, why though? I don't know. If it was legal. Now you can say like, oh, like can I have like the brand? Yeah.

I was like, oh, can I have Rush or whatever, you know? Weird. Yeah. Like I had to say like VHS cleaner. So did it like affect you? I was – I just remember it, like, burning in my mouth, and it tasted, like, literally like gasoline. I was, like, I had to run, and, like,

I was, like, spitting it out, like, rinsing my mouth. Oh, my gosh. But I survived. I don't know if maybe I'm dumber because of that. I don't know if it affected, like, my brain. Oh, my God. No, yeah, I feel like it's, like, safe, I guess. But, like, is it legal?

I don't know. Yeah, it's a little dicey. I think anything non-consensual is probably illegal yeah like anything yeah yeah so i i stand with charlie and like the i mean she hasn't said anything but i think just don't shove poppers into anyone's mouth maybe she was loving it maybe she's like i want more free poppers in my face there was a she did post a video of 2019 she held up like a little thing of poppers and was like gay rights and everyone everyone okay that's cute i thought you said that when you came in gay right i almost brought you a little

thing of poppers to recreate the video but i was like oh that's kind of weird like babies i don't know how i'm gonna get it well not until like just for the recreate the video gay rights so i have a broken wing i'm like gay right that'd be funny do you have poppers with you no i almost brought i have like i think i don't know if it's still effective though because it's been like the same one for like four years four or five years wait why do you have it for so long because it's not like you just in case i don't know i've just had it and like i've never gone to get a fresh a fresh bottle or whatever but why don't you use it you're just like i'm just gonna keep it and just i mean i use it sometimes i guess but

like but i think they're like you one and done no it's not one and done it's like it's still kind of I think it probably is not effective now really I mean I haven't used it recently but

I mean I was using it for a while because it it's just like a chemical so it still smells so you're just like huffing a chemical basically but it only lasts like a minute right

it's not the whole thing it's really short yeah it just like relaxes your muscles for like a minute just get muscle relaxers I guess yeah i don't know i don't know if we should advocate muscle relaxers instead of poppers but your doctor prescribes them i don't know i don't know either i haven't done any um backdoor action in a while so i don't know i haven't done poppers in a while too now it's just like I don't know I guess it's like I don't know if I love the feeling of it really like it just it kind of makes me feel like I'm gonna like die or something yeah I didn't like it when I've only done a couple of times but

it always gave me headaches yes I think I want to say I don't know for sure but I think I definitely did have someone in the vlog squad and I want to say it might have been like Zane or something one time I don't know maybe we were like in the gay sex store in West Hollywood maybe it was I can't remember who it was but it was definitely someone in the vlog squad for sure that sounds like a vlog squad kind of answer yeah shout out unfiltered pretty pretty unfiltered or basically basically unfiltered whatever it is now we love we love all of them and the hottest topic that everyone's been wanting us to chime on chime in on since last week really is when it popped off yeah so i kind of saw this but i guess like yeah i didn't really i don't really fully get is it is it an old story but she talks about

recently on the cancel tour yeah tana was on has tana said anything about it not no not since it like blew up so like is it where we talk about it if it's like because the cancel tour was not supposed to be recorded right i guess technically but it was and they were kind of i don't know it's not like they blacklist anyone who posts anything and tana has like reposted some videos from the tour before too so yeah um but tana at one of the last canceled tours um talked about how she hooked up with cody co when she was 17 and like the timeline was wait i don't think i don't know the story oh we have have we i don't know like so cody was 25 and she was 17 and wait i don't think i knew the ages i don't i didn't realize i knew she i feel like it was talked about before because i remember

in the britney like when the britney broski drama was happening it was like well she's best friends with cody co which is but is this his problematic this was like in lumped in with like because i feel like it's been talked about before but not like i don't know if tana's ever said anything like specifically she's joked about hooking up with them before so i knew that they had were a thing at some point but i think the age gap i didn't fully know i didn't know he there was such a big yeah the age gap was one thing but also the uh legality of a 17 year old oh yeah exactly yeah which is again like again there's like morally because i even think like 18 whatever it's still like disgusting but it's like i guess legally you're in the clear but it's like 17 it's like there's still laws and it's criminal

for a reason you know what i mean like yeah this is this is wild okay so did cody ever say anything okay so i haven't really kept up on this because like i've also you know i like love tana more than anything so it's like i just want to see something about tana i like don't want to like click on it because i'm just like i don't know like it hurts me it actually hurts my heart for real because i feel like she talks about a lot of her uh stuff that's like she realizes not okay later on there's like trauma that's happened with especially men like a lot of guys just like sexualizing her really young and i just i it makes me like actually so sad but um okay so are they they were friends? They were dating? I think they like hooked up because so in one of like the segments on the canceled tour,

it was like the hot seat segment. Someone asked who had the smallest D out of everyone she'd previously been with. And she said, oh my god, don't look at me. But Cody Ko. I can say that I was literally 17. Yay! Damn, that's a lot of tea yeah oh my god and then so by her saying she was 17 like people did the math of like the ages so he would have been 25 when they

allegedly i guess hooked up but i feel like she would never like tana somebody who doesn't say something unless there's like backup like you can Like, you know what I mean? Especially something that's so – Verifiable. And, like, yeah. It's out there. And they've, like – they collab. Like, there's videos of them, like, collabing on his channel, like, when she was that age. So it kind of, like, makes – When she was 17?

Yeah. So it all kind of makes sense. And I think they collabed again not a few years ago or whatever. And I remember the discourse around it. Like, I have the vague, like, recollection of, like, the discourse around it like i have the vague like recollection of like the discourse of like them having previously like hooked up whatever and i think she's mentioned like like previously like having a thing with them before but then yeah i think the age thing is like the thing that yeah has started 25 and 17 is like gross 25 and 18 is gross like 25 you're like you're an adult you're a full-fledged adult

and this is a person that's like an actual child who's had obviously like she talked she's always been open about her um you know relationship with her parents who obviously have like a bad upbringing and so people yeah yikes yeah and like and you can tell by her response that it's kind of like traumatic or she holds some sort of resentment because obviously she said she's like, I can say that because I was like 17. And you really don't say stuff like that unless you have sort of like a triggered response or something like that, that something triggered you. Because that's how I usually am too. When someone brings up someone that like traumatized me, I usually have like a little bit of a feisty response. Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. So he's never said anything about it? and i guess like he has like a history of like just like never like addressing he's like one of those the ones that i never addressed it's like address it like address it otherwise but that's also like i feel guilty right like if you don't like address something you know just screams to me allegedly all that stuff like that but it's like it's it looks more sus that you're not addressing it.

And also cowardly. Like, this person, I guess, what do you say, though? Because then you're just admitting guilt. And then I guess you shouldn't. And I guess it was a crime, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, literally. Right.

That's like the David Dobrik where he's like, I can't say anything because then I'm just confessing to actually. Yeah. And he is, like, married with a kid now, too. So that also adds, like, a whole other weird element. I don't know. I really don't know anything about him. Yeah. He's is like married with a kid now too. So that also adds like a whole other weird element. I really don't know anything about him. Yeah. He's really, really popular.

I mean like – What's he do? He – Podcast? He's just like – he started like from the Vine days and he did YouTube and then he had like a little – he had a show called Tiny Meat Gang I want to say. Oh, that kind of makes sense. Tiny Meat Gang?

Yeah. I think that's what it was called. Oh, yeah. With Noelle Miller was his co-host and it got really, kind of makes sense. Tiny Meat Gang? Yeah. I think that's what it was called. Oh, yeah. With Noel Miller was his co-host. And it got really, really popular. Okay. It aged greatly then. It was accurate.

And he's like a – he's like, I don't know, like one of the funny guys or whatever. But now I think he does music now because when my boyfriend went to Vegas a couple months ago, he was performing at the pool. Yeah. Down at DJ. He's like singing? I think he's like singing I think he's like singing but he's like really

really popular especially with like the college like crowd are we gonna get canceled for talking about it I'm scared the whole internet is kind of like

oh this is like messed up I kind of have seen stuff about it I just didn't know like yeah ooh it's just like tough like I just because it is one of those

things where I'm like maybe I should reach out to Tana in the sense of like is she okay because like also like I feel like she has so much stuff she probably hasn't talked about or said stuff like you know like on cancel tour or like just in general I guess she's writing a book I think I'm like maybe I should reach out to Tana in the sense of like is she okay because like also like I feel like she has so much stuff she probably hasn't talked about or said stuff

like you know like on cancel tour or like just in general I guess she's writing a book I think I saw like she was on live talking about writing a book or something and I was like are you okay though because it's like I think she's really good at like masking stuff and just being like that girl but yeah that's kind of like sad especially if he hasn't addressed it I don't know like how so but people are like more on her side then oh yeah yeah fully like because it does like make sense because i think people have known that they hooked up like i knew that they hooked up like when she said that like that is another thing that shocked me you know it was like the age the eight yeah once seeing like the ages together i think like 17 25 that's like wild because yeah yeah i think it's really interesting too is the like like i'm sure

he's gonna just like move on. Like he's not going to say anything. He's still going to be performing everywhere. Like it's just so interesting like the difference and like backlash. You know what I mean? Like you still have so many people who are like mad at stuff for so long ago and it's like you've apologized. And like literally there's nothing else you can do at that point. It's like –

Yeah, I'm not sleeping with minors. Yeah. And it's like you've apologized. So it's like – and I get some people like don't want to forgive you. That's fine. That's like people's decisions. But it's like to've apologized so it's like and i get some people like don't want to forgive you that's fine that's like people's decisions but it's like to still like harass over this but then like someone like uh that does like an actual crime you can like move on and not have the same kind of like vitriol or like the same intense like people wanting just for you to be

completely obliterated you know what i mean like life ruining the energy is like that and also too on tana's end too like she probably, she probably, obviously, she's not gonna, like, press charges or anything. Yeah. So it is one of those things where it's, like, is there any, your closure, I guess, for her to be able to, like, joke about it or something like that. Yeah. Because I'm, like, uh, it does suck that, like, nothing's gonna happen, you know, and it's, like, these people can just do it. And I'm sorry, I don't know how old Cody Coe is, but I'm 36, and it's, like, even when I was 25, you knew not to, like, sleep with minors. Like, you know what I mean? It not like people would say it was a long time ago or move on or whatever

it's like okay well like obviously it's still like affecting her and that's what I always say with anyone like any victim like Adam Acter all that stuff like that it's like you know they can talk about it for as long as they want especially if the person doesn't want to address it or apologize for it you know what I mean because I bet if Cody like apologized or text her and was like hey like kind of like the Brittany Broski to Tana you know

like text her I don't know she didn't apologize I'm just saying text her and was like, hey, like kind of like the Brittany Broski to Tana, you know, like text her. I don't know. She didn't apologize. I'm just saying text her privately. You know, like I feel like maybe, maybe she like, you know, it feels a little better to her. It feels like a little bit of closure, but she doesn't have that. So she's going to just keep, you know, and I think, I think she should, especially at these shows, like that's her, you know, story to tell and jokes to make and stuff because it's like how she can deal with it and how she can feel somewhat okay with what happened.

Because it sounds like it's probably not okay now to her. Maybe the time it was against 17 you like you're young you don't know you don't really you can't really give consent at 17 but hmm that's sad it makes me sad honestly like that whole thing it just makes me i saw like i said i saw like headlines and stuff people talking about i didn't know if it was like new or recent and i just i don't know i was it just made me sad yeah you know yeah I mean, she's been through a lot. And she's, like, very well adjusted for how much she's been through. You know what I mean? Especially now, like, you just see her, like –

Happy. So happy and, like – In a relationship. Just at peace and, like, really, like, on top of her game, you know? Yeah. Very much, like, in her prime. And she's gone through a lot to get there, you know? Oh, for sure. I think – and she always talks about that. to get there you know oh for sure i think and she always

talks about that like just men being so inappropriate with her and i feel like that's just such a big thing to talk about because like it's such a unique experience to have too especially when you're like the one with like money and power and men still being like taking advantage because she always was like at 17 she was famous you know what i mean so it's like she kind of had that stature and like i kind of like that she talks about it now because i think she was always like that fun girl and like the vlogs and stuff like that. But, you know, that she can talk about it now and how like inappropriate and gross it was, you know, stuff that happened to her. So even stuff that was like non-consensual or stuff that, you know, people played off as jokes or something like that. I just feel like –

Yeah. And it's someone like her talking about it is so powerful because she is at the top of her game and she could just like forget about it, just live, you know, in the now, whatever. And the fact that she's like talking about it, it's like obviously still like effect – I don't want to say effecting. I don't want to like put her in that category. But it's like still on her mind. You know, like that's the first thing she thought of. Because I – you know, if someone's like, okay, who's the smallest D?

And like that's your first – and obviously he kind of confirmed it with his little tiny meat gang thing. You know what I mean? I don't know. Ah, ick. I don't know anything about Cody Ko. I never had anything against him. I literally don't know anything about him. I knew Brittany was friends.

I knew people said he was problematic. But I didn't really understand it. I knew it was something with Tiana. I just don't know anything about him i knew britney was friends i knew people said he was problematic but i didn't i didn't really understand it i knew it was something with tana i just didn't know like yeah i see the age or the age thing was kind of like i guess literally just like seeing it in writing like 25 17 and the fact that she said that she's just like i can say that because i was 17 yeah yeah and like and two for tana like the her brand especially back then was like she was like the cool girl like you know she was like it's like the the guy's dream you know like she never like gave anyone a hard time like you could say anything to her she would laugh it off or whatever so the fact that she's like growing up

and like um i mean still it's like she doesn't like victimize herself or anything but she literally just like she can call things out now without the pressure of like like that was disgusting that was appropriate and i think that's like so important yeah and it's good because we don't see a lot of girls like that not that it's like again not a bad thing but it's like i think a lot of girls do play into that including me where it's just kind of like you know you just want to be you just want to yeah you want to be with them you want to be accepted like i'm a cool girl i can especially when you're young especially when you come from like a broken home it's all that kind of stuff like all attributes to it you know what i mean or if you think you know i don't know especially influencer like i mean her like

groups like when she was younger were all like male centric you know like she was like the cool girl like the cool guy groups yeah every group jake paul the vlog squad bryce hall yeah she really yeah she really has odd sons and yeah yeah and she really was that girl and a lot of people would use that as an excuse like I remember somebody who was like it's just Tana like that's who she is yeah you're so right and it's like yeah but it's still not cool she's a person yeah she's a young woman

yeah that's obviously vulnerable and is obviously doing this for a reason and like I relate to that in that sense too it's like yeah you just are I don't know trying to get somewhere make a name people like don't give her enough credit a lot of the times I think you know like literally like you said like people just think oh that's just hannah like she's like the wild child but she's still like a person who has been taken advantage of several times but then she still like handled herself and like navigated that whole world

so like masterfully to like be able to still you know have a such a successful podcast where it's like literally like a million over a million views every episode you have people like dave portnoy trying to like ride her coattails you know what i mean like another another guy who's trying to use her and stuff yeah so it's it speaks a lot to like her talent and people a lot of the time say like um it's because with like the britney broski thing whatever and again i don't want to blow smoke towards britney broski because like holding her more accountable than cody co is ridiculous like yeah for sure for sure she just didn't want to yeah it was cheeky about it so um but like even like with like that situation was like well yeah like you know theo vaughn's a comedian tana is

just tana like she's an entertainer like the fact that she can hold an audience like as well as she does like she may not be like a comedian but she's like really entertaining and really smart yeah so no i hate that too i hate that thing yeah i yeah but people who do defend people are also you know what i mean and it's like that's also part of the problem and like including including anybody you know it's like if you are like defending these guys or whatever it's like that's a whole other thing or supporting them because i've seen like a lot of his fans be like well like he's married with a kid now like he shouldn't have to like uh deal with all of this i was like yeah it's okay well yeah you have to you have to like that's why you should account for things as they happen

like it's already been over account for it before all this so it's not embarrassing later on yeah um yeah well good for tana for speaking like i said i know she's not ever someone to be like gonna press charges and like he's not gonna say anything so it's good that she can get it out the way she needs to and yeah silence usually speaks volumes you know what i mean like i cannot stay silent if it's something like that you know what i mean it's like yeah and also the fact that tiana hasn't done like a big like expose or you know this is like a comment in passing at her live show you know what i mean like and she has a platform where she could like yeah do a lot of the fact that she that canceled tour they have they have all the

stories i know i wonder that is crazy i mean that is wild and i'm glad people are talking about it i'm glad people are talking about it because honestly it could have been just like whatever it's just yeah the fact that people are like you know being very supportive about it too and like calling it out i think it's very nice to see well that's a big ick and if you're a adult sleeping on a 17 year old you have some issues yikes that's that's a big yikes but um and then also i've seen like tara get a lot of smoke too from like tana's fans because a lot of people are saying that she's like copying tana because she oh tara is went out with mod sun and it's unclear if they're like i did see that story yeah so a lot of people are saying

like she's copying the tana blueprint because she was like a fan of Tana or whatever. Oh, well, but that's kind of iconic too. I don't know who she is. I'm just saying like it wouldn't make sense. Like you like someone

and that person dated that person. I'd be like, yeah. You know, I think I DM'd you DM Kevin Federline, I think, like when I was really young. Yeah. And I'd be like, ooh, this is kind of cool.

Like if Brittany dated you. I mean, again, I was young. Don't come for me, Brittany fandom. But like, you know, 23 and you like also Matson has dated a lot of people and like not in a bad way but like he's dated like bella thorne and like avril lavigne so you know he's kind of pete davidson where i feel like you're like oh you did all these hot girls yeah and now you're interested in me although how old is mattson that's a good question i think he's way too old for her because Tara's like 20 what? 37. Ew.

Ew. Ew. Oh no. And how old is Tara? Like what 24? 23. Oh my god ew. No. Big ew. Why is he hanging out at Barney's Beanery? Like why are you hanging out where all the young influencers are? It's so weird. And you're 37? Grow up.

Yeah. Oh my god. That's literally older than me and that's great. I couldn't even imagine when a barney would be near you now, even if I'm friends with, like, these girls that are only 10 years younger than me. I still would be like, I don't know. That's weird. I shouldn't be there. Like, I don't know.

Am I too old to be here? Yes, you are. Even me, I'm like, I would not. I feel weird there. 30s and trying to be cool with, like, influencers that are, like, 20s. Like, it's one thing to, like, work with them, clap with them, whatever, but then, like, hanging out with them at their bar that they go to yeah just to like be just like to live like as if you're that age you know what i mean yeah it's weird absolutely not

stay away from her monsoon um but i don't even know him but i'm like that's too old just knowing that is like enough for me um but also i think that like with tara too you can kind of see it just because she's getting so popular it It's like always like the counter. Like once you get so popular, it's like. They want to. Just. Take you down. Yeah.

There was a TikTok of someone being like, how long until we all turn on Sabrina Carpenter? Yes. And Sabrina Carpenter's like, delete this. Yes. Well, she got it so bad after like Olivia Rodrigo. Yeah. I feel bad. Like and looking back in retrospect, she was really going through it.

So hopefully, I feel like, you know, she paid her dues. Like, she went through her friggin' bad era. So I feel like she should escape. But, yeah. She should escape. Escape the night. Yeah. But, yeah, Tara, I don't know.

But also, like, Tana's obviously, like, so cool with her and doesn't care, obviously, because they literally were dressed out together. Oh, for sure. Tana, you know Tana doesn't care. Anything. Yeah. She likes her new boyfriend. You know, it doesn't care anything yeah i liked her new boyfriend you know it doesn't matter she's just like so chill and i think that like the like the blueprint of like it's still like y2k you know

like early 2000s like tabloid culture is all about like the uh the cute girl who's like sweet to other girls but she's like you know she has like the party girl side like the bad girl like she'll go out drink party like that's just like a it's just like a a niche almost you know what I mean totally yeah it's not anything it's very tabloid

it's very like everyone dating the same person like I think like Paris Hilton dated like an heir that Lindsay Lohan started dating he was like a Greek guy or something

and everyone was like oh my god they're dating the same person now yeah that's just how I don't know it is you know

yeah so I feel like it sucks like to see people coming for tar but that's i guess how it goes when you get yeah and i like obviously like we've texted and d and she's like actually like so sweet and she actually does get like anxiety over people trying to like cancel her and stuff like that because i think she is like an actual like unproblematic person like really sweet and she's like so new to all this and she's so popular and so famous right now and i think it's just like how do you navigate and's hard, especially when you're young and you really like someone too.

Like if you're really good friends with someone, like how do you just be like, oh, no, I'm not going to be friends with that person because they're problematic. And she is that person who like doesn't care because even when I first met her, I was like, I didn't think she would like me because, you know, I can be considered problematic. And she's like, oh, I don't care what people say about other people. Like I just go based on how they are. And I get that too. You know, it's like you just go by how they treat you. Without realizing maybe a bigger picture. And it's like fine. But the problem is problem is like you said the association can like just get

you canceled and like the association with him but i don't know maybe he would never be he they're popular now so honestly like yeah stick with jake and johnny in my opinion i don't i didn't know she had that dropbox podcast where she was the host permanently i told her i'm like you three should have a podcast because that would be so good and they're good together like i love when the three of them are together i think they're like fun so fun and they like Johnny twitches like he live streams and he goes for like eight hours like he's a talker so like they would be able to talk a lot yeah and Tara's a yapper too like oh for sure yeah yeah no for sure they would be in John they all are so anyways I hope they stick together as a trio same I do

like that at least like Tara like I mean she's hanging out with like Pokimane. Like she goes in all the different groups, you know, which is also cool. They're a good friendship because Pokimane is very sweet and Tara's like so sweet. Like she's just like, text me your voice memo me and be like, you're, you know, you're so wonderful. Thanks for being nice to me and blah, blah. She'll also be like, you know, people are being really mean to me right now. She like is very like, yeah.

So I think she's like a sweet person. Yeah. And Poki's good because she's been through the gambit, but she's also like so business savvy. Yeah. Yeah. And it always comes out on top, like knows how to come out on top on everything. She's a really smart.

I really like her. And she keeps spilling the tea. I saw like on her Twitch the other day, she talked about like how really, really popular streamer. She wouldn't say a name, but she said someone really, really big. Like she posted a photo like wearing like a tank top or something and this guy like dm'd her being like wow your dad must be so proud of you having your tits out on instagram like berated her oh my gosh and as someone who's like very very popular and this was like a couple years ago um but the fact that she like kind of

like a tana like she has it all but she's like i love it it love when they finally it's like there's power in that yeah like let it out and it is and that is the powerfulness of what I was saying about the Tana thing too is like there's like so much power and when you have the power and you're not even like

doing it for attention or views or whatever like you have all the views all the attention you're more popular than the other person and you still can call out that behavior

I love that so much especially Pokimane too it's like she doesn't have to get this attention but she does and like that's important because she has like a power and she has this like

you know voice we love tana always yeah love and support to her oh my god i feel like i should text her i feel so sad oh it makes me sad like i just feel like she has like gone through so much and it's like she laughs things off and i'm just like oh it makes me sad i know yeah and i think like especially like since you have daughters that like you know i feel like that changes so much too because like same with you like you i feel like you didn't process a lot of the stuff until like then you have daughters and then you think like oh my god if anything that i went through happens to them it's like i would

like literally like you know kill whoever yeah literally why i play the lottery is i can just keep them in a little bubble yeah it'll be like bridgeton i'll just have like suitors come to the house and i'll decide for them this is is your, the prince or the Duke. That's it. Yeah. That's the era to be in. I long for that era so much, but,

um, oh yeah. Wow. Ick. What a way to end gay pride. Gay rights. Oh yeah. Gay rights.

Just rights. Queer rights. I don't know. Just rights. Yeah. Queer rights. Queer. We're here and we're queer and there's nothing you can don't know. Just rights. Yeah. Queer rights. Queer. We're here and we're queer and there's nothing you can do about it.

All right. Period. Do you identify as a gay man or a queer man? Gay, for sure. Yeah. Fully gay. Conviction. Yeah.

Love that. Okay. Well, this is where I can identify as queer woman. No, actually, not even a woman. Queer person. Period. There you go. Yeah.

There we go. Yeah. I don't know. And Moses is water. Yeah. I just identify. Yeah. I don't know. And Moses is water. Yeah. I just think that's why he's water. Okay. Can water be queer?

L-G-B-T-Q-I-A-W. W. It's before the body. Like there's no sex or gender to it. Yeah. I love that too. That's a whole different category. We like that.

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