Just Trish - Tana VS Shane Dawson, Nicolandria BREAK UP + David Dobrik ENDINGS | Just Trish Ep. 297

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

This may be the most hot topics ever covered in a single episode of Just Trish. This week Trisha is joined by guest co-host Farai! And they discuss EVERYTHING!!! From David and the Vlog Squad, Tana dragging Shane on Tiktok and Morgan Adams coming to his defense, everything to ever happen on any Real Housewives franchise ever, and the recent news that Olandria and Nick from Love Island have broken up!! All that and much much more on today's episode!!Follow Farai!! https://faraibennett.substack.com/https://www.tiktok.com/@faraibennettTHANK YOU TO BUTCHER BOX FOR SPONSORINGGo to http://ButcherBox.com/JUSTTRISH to get $20 off your first box, plus your choice of free ground beef for life, or free chicken thighs or top sirloins in every box for a year (+ free shipping always!)COME SEE TRISHMAS 2026https://www.ticketmaster.com/trisha-paytas-tickets/artist/2550018PRE-ORDER TRISHA'S NEW MEMOIR NOW!!!!!https://linktr.ee/trishapaytas_SUBSCRIBE TO MOSES' COOKING CHANNELhttps://www.youtube.com/@mosescookingvideosFOR EXTENDED EPISODES AND BONUS CONTENThttps://www.patreon.com/cw/JustTrishNEW JUST TRISH MERCH!https://justtrish.comFollow   ‪@oscargracey‬     / oscargracey     / @oscargracey  Edited by: ‪@jimmywhetzel‬ https://linktr.ee/jimmywhetzelTIMESTAMPS:0:00 FARAI IS HERE TO GOSS, LORE WITH OSCAR, FOLLOWING POP CULTURE WITH A DEGREE4:00 BEEF WITH PEOPLE MAGAZINE, MEETING EACH OTHER, VLOG SQUAD, DAVID11:00 TANA, BRAVO, RHOBH, ERIKA JAYNE, ANDY COHEN20:00 VANDERPUMP RULES, TOM SANDOVAL, DORIT, WENDY WILLIAMS, SURVIVING CORPORATE AMERICA31:00 SHANE VS TANA, DRAKE, TAYLOR SWIFT'S TACKY WEDDING, LAUREN CONRAD42:00 TRISHA'S MOM LIFE, ASHLEY TISDALE MOM GROUP, FARAI'S CAREER PLANS FOR TRISHA, JAKE SHANE, THE ABBEY, BRAVOCON50:00 LOVE ISLAND NICOLANDRIA, CHAPPELL, JUSTIN BIEBER, TANA VS SHANE CONT., WEHO SINKHOLE1:04:00 KIM K, DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES, SLOMW, TAYLOR FRANKIE PAUL, JAX TAYLOR1:12:00 KARDASHIANS, RED CARPETS, JAMES CHARLES, BODY POSITIVITY TO OZEMPIC1:20:00 HAVING KIDS, STARTING A PODCAST, PHORI, MOM QUESTIONS, HOME SCHOOLING, NORTH WEST1:31:00 DISNEY CHANNEL, RAVEN, MILEY, WICKED1:38:30 SCHEANA SHAY, OSCAR IS AWESOME, HOUSEWIVES, BETHANY FRANKEL1:46:00 JENAE AND KENNY LOVE ISLAND, BRINITY1:51:00 DAY IN THE LIFE OF TRISHA, OLD SCREENNAMES, WAYMO, KYLE RICHARDS2:01:00 HS SPORTS, PILATES, FLYING, ONLY CHILD, FILMING IN PUBLIC, CHRIS OLSEN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Where are they now, by the way? Someone was like, Frias, where's the Vogue Squad? I'm like, I have no idea. I passed my Doberks pizza, and it's like, it makes no noise. I'm like... I wish I could be more real like that. I'm so scared of getting canceled. I think back in the day...

How are you scared of getting canceled? You've gotten canceled like 18 times. I really want to know how you're so scary. Welcome to the Dutch Trish podcast. It is a hot topic today. Oscar is still on a side bit at Comic Con, and we miss him. We love him. He'll be back on Wednesday.

But today we have an amazing guest co-host, who's not more than oomfies with Asker. He was a colleague. We've met a bunch times. He's great. He's all over TikTok. He is like pop culture, phenomenon, smart. Everything. He's everywhere. He's at every event. He's at every place. He is the influencer. He's my favorite influencer right now. Oh, my God. Thank you. I'm so glad you. Remember that we've met before now. Don't call me out right at the top of the show. I walked in here. She goes nice meeting you and like, Tricia. We've met like three times. How many? Never told me because we like talked on TikTok.

I don't know what. I thought like you knew, but like, see, that's what happens when you blow up. Everybody knows you now. Same. Like, you're so popular. And I was like, I would remember you. You have such a big personality on TikTok. Like, you've always stood out my mind. Every time we talk about you on Hot Topics, but you know for Rye?

He's like, yes. And we're always like, oh my God, we know. But also Oscar, too. I'm like on him up. Oscar, like, raised me. Are you kidding me? Like, literally. You guys, like, worked together so much.

And he's got new jobs and you, like, worked together. You've gotten on the field together. Like, you guys are like, close. No, we were. During COVID, I think I talked to Oscar, like, every single day because I was like, COVID was just a hard time, girl.

I was locked in my house and I was working all these crazy people. And Oscar was like my safe space. Wait, that is so crazy. So you guys started together. Because I didn't know, like I said, when Oscar comes back, we all have to do hot topics together because you are, we always talk about you. And I'm always like, I always get my information for right. Because you really do hot topics.

If you guys don't know, he's on TikTok and he's doing hot topics like in real time. You're at the sinkhole in West Hollywood. Like you are everywhere in real time. And I get all my information from you. Like I know things are happening from you. So I'm your news source. You're my news source. Because you told me you didn't know what DeMois was, like also two minutes ago.

Well, I said Des Mois on Substack, which, by the way, right, it's also on Substack. How do you get there? How do you find it? I don't even know what Substack is. Fari Bennett.substack.com, and my substack is Fari unfiltered. Go there. Watch those space.

Yes. I love that because you're like, okay, subsacks everything. And then you're like, Dumas and there. I knew Des Mois is, like, a website that people go to, but I thought it was, like, a person. I thought you were like, oh, he's on it. Does anyone even care who DeMois is? I feel like it was exposed and like nobody moved because like... Did they?

Who was it? Who was it? Some random girl who Haley Bieber was like trying to like, oh, whodont? She was like, who did Dumois? Like, and it came out. I was like, oh, Haley Bieber ruined it. So the back when I found out that Haley Bieber ruined it, I was like, well, I never want to know who it is.

So I'm not looking. Oh, so you didn't care. So you're like, all right. Well, check out DeMuan's upstick too, I guess. I don't know. But so you work together because, okay, so you also went to school for journalism, which I always say this to people. I'm like, oh, my God.

You went to college and completed four years. similarities and very specific niche that no one else has on the internet where you guys have the education of like journalism and like boots on the ground and all that stuff like that but also like the obsession with pop culture and just know every little thing about everything so you guys worked at access together yeah he worked there before me I was a talent assistant he was on the digital team and I was like very fresh living in L.A. I think like I moved to L.A. literally a week before I started that job yeah so yeah and then I would always talk to him about God what was that celebrity I was like this celebrity is so it must have been a K-pop group or something of the sort

that he was obsessed with. We love K-pop over here. But he, like, hated me for, like, probably, like, maybe five days, and then we were, like, friends. Wait, really? That's so funny. And then how did you guys come from friends?

What was the Switch? You said something about K-pop, and then it was like... I was always, like, hanging out the digital team. I thought what they were doing was so fun. Like, I did not care what was going on with George Cluny or any of that. Kylie Jenner was hiding her pregnancy at the time.

It was so boring. I'm like, girl, just tell everyone that you're having Stormy. It was 2017, girl. That's a period. That's a time capsule. It was a lot happened that year with Tristan and Chloe and Kylie and the baby. How do you remember all that is crazy?

Oh, no. 2017 was a crazy time. Oh, and then, oh, me too. It was a Matt Lauer year. Was that just 2017? Yeah. And I remember because when I worked at Access, they would make me log what happened

on the Today Show every day. I was never more informed of the world. Someone would tell me something that was going on in Afghanistan that was completely wrong. I'd be like, actually, that is not what Savannah Guthrie said. Oh, wow.

When the Me Too thing happened, Matt Lauer, because Access was owned by NBC. So, like, you would see all the Today Show posters. I used to get Enews notifications. RIP to that startup girl. I know, so sad. But we love them. I was on the rundown one time.

Anyway. Were you? Did you ever host on E? I hosted the rundown, yeah, for like three episodes. Oh, that's everything. Back in like 2022. Oh, my God. And then People Magazine got so mad at me about, oh, my God.

I'll never live it down. Wait, why don't get mad at you? What's the tea? Because I'll tell the story now. Because basically what happened was is that I was in between. I got and laid off from E. And then in the in between, I was like interviewing at people. but like e-news like offered me the rundown.

So I got the rundown thing first then I got the job of people. But it was, when I was doing it was coinciding with like when I was starting. So I just kind of played stupid and I was like, oh, I had no idea that this was like a rule. But technically if you really look at the fine print, there really is no set.

What's the rule? What was the rule? That you can't like do anything with other outlets. But like technically it wasn't really like written like that. Like it was like, oh, it's not even a real rule. It's like something you decided to make up then and there. So that's a whole other story for another day. You're like, you didn't give me that exclusivity pay

or anything like that. Yeah, no. It's like, what are you talking about? So I just, so I went and did it and everyone hated me for like the first like six months. I don't even get those two like mixed up. And we love both. I love people in RIPE news, but like they're kind of like so separate to me.

Like they're not even like same. Read news articles. Like I do if I want to know accurate information obviously because journalists, right? Yes, yes. But I want an opinion. So these days I'm on the dark web. I go, Trisha Pades, Hemorrhoids, Reddit. Like what does everybody be?

Oh, even did post. They had that one. Yes. They had the headline about them right. Are you doing better? I'm doing better. I was still on pain medications, and my husband was just like, oh, you're shot on it. And I was like, yeah, I was like, honestly, it was like the most painful thing ever.

Like, I was, it was crazy. It was during Mercury retrograde, though. What is, oh, you're so right. What is a hemorrhoid? Ooh, that is a great question. I'm gay and I feel like I'm supposed to, like, know that. Never had a hemorrhoid. Wow, that's impressive.

Because all my gay friends are the ones. Well, I'm like 15. Why would I have an hemorrhoid? That's true. That's true. That's true. All make everyone put me on to, like, oh, you know what you know what I'm going to be. That was you have on your shoulder right now?

This is... That hemorrhoid on my arm? I was like, what happened to you? I knew it. I was like, I'd ask myself, I'm like, should I take this off? It looks a little distracting. He's like, no, no, it's like, fine.

It looks worse than it is. This is your home, diva. I want you to feel comfortable. I'm like, we're out here. Just my hemorrhade on my... You've ever heard of it? We are far. Thank you for making the check.

We are very far out here. No, I had a... That was a CECRet and everything was like the hemorrhoid, the cyst, everything. All of a sudden there was like a cyst on my arm that was like so big. It came like out of nowhere and they had to like drain it last week. It was like this whole thing.

Oh, I hate that. I've had a cyst on my face and I made my girl drain it. Really? Was it painful? Yes, I hate needles. But it was on my face. I was like, girl, just hold your breath and hope for the best. Well, what's this says?

Okay. So hemorrhate is something on, usually it's internal. It can be in your anus or outside of it. Yeah, so I've heard. Mine was outside. That's crazy you've never had. I've had so many. I've had so many.

I know. I'm so ran through. I'm supposed to happen. Okay. I'm not. I'm so not. I'm kidding. No way to go with that.

I was like, okay, well, maybe it's not the butt stuff. I don't know. West Hollywood. Like, you know, everyone. It's like, we all know each other. We're all friends. Yes, we all. And everyone has hemorrhoids and it's totally fine.

It's actually very natural to have a hemorrhoid. It's what I found out. But I think it's like, I think it's a popped blood, blood vessel, I think, right? Inflamed blood vessel. You've had a hemorrhoid. We've talked about this blood vessels that pop out. So you're the culprit of this hemroid. No.

It was from pregnancy. because I was constipated, so if you push a lot too. Obviously, you can get it from, like, butt stuff. Do you get really constipated? During pregnancy, I did. It was like a rock. Anyways, I don't mean to say. How many children do you have again?

I have three. You have a giggle of kids now. I have a gaggle. By the way, but I knew you when you gave me this shirt. Oh my, okay. You tossed me this shirt outside of your pink G-wagon. Oh my God, here. Did I toss it?

Okay, so this is another lore that I didn't know, which is so crazy. But 2019, if you know anything, I'm out of my mind. So the fact that we met in 2019, especially during this time, because I remember so specifically it was July. and July was like after another mental hospital. Yeah, it was July, you're right, yeah. I remember it so much. And so you were with Oscar

at my heartbreak tour rehearsal, which is up. And I met you briefly at Axis, but I get why you didn't remember me there because I was just like, I was like nothing. Yeah, no, that's... The Access was such a whirlwind too, but this was like the heartbreak tour. So you came with Oscar.

It was so weird because it was for E.T. Shout out E.T. And I remember they were like, oh, do you want us to like film your rehearsal of the tour? And no one gave a fuck out me in 2019. This is after I left Log Squad and like no one cared. So I was like, well, someone cares. So shout out.

Oscar and Farii for coming. Oh, I was so there. I was so there. So what did you do? I had to take notes of like everything you were doing and like what you were saying and like that questions. I was like, I would like log the interviews of what he was doing. Wait, that is so.

I was doing like a shoot report. And how does something like that come about? Because obviously I don't think E.T. is like, we need to go to Trisha Padas's rehearsal for like 50 people. They had the app at the time and they were really trying to make the app like happen and they wanted it. It was all really digital star focused at the time. Oh, I see.

I think you were like a huge get. I don't know why I guess my name did my vlog squad home shoot like two weeks later and I went to that and I was like this is the vlog squad house is kind of I don't know what? Which one did you go to? What was it? What was the vlog squad home shoe? Do you remember? It was like with David. Oh I know what house you're talking about

so it was kind of just like a rest of like it's like oh not this dated community were at me I was like damn I was like they had the nerve to kick you out of there like where are they now by the way someone was like fries where's a vlog squad. I have no idea. I passed my D'Oberg's pizza and it's like, it makes no noise. I'm like, Oh my God. Do you ever see that? You don't go, so you don't go to the parties because he had a big

one this weekend and all the, and you see the influencers. It's funny. I had to ask someone if David Dorberg was still alive. I swear to God, I was like, guys, is he? Isn't it crazy? And my friend Sophie, she goes, no, he's just on Snapchat. You're on Snapchat. He's lit over there. It's really popping. Because influencers just don't pose. I saw some influencers. I did a little side-eye. I saw some influencers there and I'm like, they just don't post about it. They still go to the parties and stuff like that, but they don't. This weekend? There was a big rager. Was it after the drink update party?

Everyone just went over there? Did you not go to that? Yeah. So, Davids was Carl Jr. and Snoop Dog. That was at his birthday party. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. I don't know. He gets performers. That's his thing. He gets like big performers to go. And then the update party was, I think, the same night. I'm surprised you weren't at the update party. Kim, we have no beef.

I love you, girl. Update. Update. Wait, is it good? Yes. I never tried it. We have a blue one. I can go to do the blue one in the thing.

Yes. You have never had it? No, I want to get. Is it even available in stores? Walmart. It's only a bit of what Walmart? I don't go there. Wait, what do you mean? I don't do Walmart. I don't do Walmart.

What do you do? I just go to Whole Foods. Go to the one here. Wait, but how are you going to get like deodorant in like diapers at Whole Foods? Well, I guess you could. Oh, I go to CVS. I get like, I have a CBS care pass. CVS is expensive.

But if you have the care pass, it's not. Wait, what do you mean? You get a discount? You pay like $5 for this like care pass and it's like attached to your phone number. And like every month they'll give you like $10 off. But I think you can, but then there's other deals. It's still so expensive. No, but if you get the other coupons and stuff and you apply them all, then you can get, like, a lot off.

And sometimes, like, if you don't go for a couple months, sometimes they expire. But, like, one time I didn't go for two months and I went and got, like, all my necessities. And I only paid, like, $19. That's crazy. Because I went, I was, like, $100 and I got, like, deodorant and soap and, like some tampons. Getting, like, necessity is, like so annoying. It's, like, getting gas. Annoying.

Gas is the craziest. That's why I was, like, appreciated that you came because I always offered, like, a car and you're like, oh, I drive. And I was like, okay, love that. It's not expensive. Yes. Tell me. One of my friends' podcasts, like, a year ago, I was like, are you going to send me a black car? Were you going to, I have a rider. Like, where's my dom? Like, where's all of it? And then so it was like a joke, obviously. Oh, I was like, no, but you should. That's like podcast 101. Because like a lot of times like podcast, it's far. It's all stuff. That's like one. That's like, one of one. Say Sierra, that's, like, say, Sierra, that's podcast rule number one.

Maybe she was just like, oh, this is like my friend. It's a little different, I guess, if it's like your friend. But I texted her when you offered me a car and I was like, see, Trisha Bainis called me a car. And she's like, well, of course Trisha Bainis is. I'll call you a car. I just feel like I don't want to be that person because you're like coming to my house here so far but Sierra sounds cool. We love Sierra. No, I wanted to be humble.

I was like, no, I'm gonna drive. I know, I love that. You're like, I'll drive myself, which is like rare because it is far and gas is expensive. So it's like I would take a car. Someone offers me a car to go into West Hollywood. I'm like, yes, I'll take that car.

This is like my Kim K moment. I'm gonna be like on time. Like everyone's gonna remember. You are, I knew you were going to be too. And that's what I told Mosz. I think he's gonna be actually early. And that's because, again, and you're like so Oscar Cota where you guys like went to college,

you had like traditional media jobs. Like you can't be late. But influencer world, everyone's like an hour late. Like you just expect it. So. Oh, every time I interview Tanna Mojo at E.T.

Always late. And I love her down. She's the best. Always late. Well, now she's in her sober era. And you know what? Can I tell you?

Same. The first time I did the podcast with her. It was like four hours late. This was like four years ago. But now we do not leveling together once a week on time. In fact, she was early. She was doing that together.

Is that when you guys like answer questions and stuff? Yes. A little relationship question. Yeah, that reminds me of like those, like, remember in the early 2000s where they do, like, relief funds and they get celebrities to, like, call people. The telephone? Yeah, like those. That's what you're, that's what I mean. It is giving that.

And shout out to Anna for being. She's like, okay, so obviously we're different generations. I'm millennials. She's very like Gen Z. And I called it not Loveline. And she's probably like, wow, what the hell is this for her name? Because there was a show called Loveline in like the 90s with like Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. Oh, cute.

And so it was supposed to be like that, but not. But no one gets it because I'm just old. And it was even old before me. So I think she was just like, I don't know what this means, but that's where the not level. But no one really gets it. But now we stuck with the name, you know what I mean? But my point of that is she does show up on time.

In fact, she beat us home last time. And I was like, damn, girl, you really are on time. She was in her new era. Do you see her out? She was at the Updhaalibuja Halloween party. And I was like, do you remember when I went to your wedding? She's like, you were there. She's like, you should come to my next one because that one was just coming at the

same. She didn't remember Oscar was there either. So I think it was, but again, not sober Tanna. You know what I mean? I think she was very much. That wedding was probably the best one. That was 2019 too. It was,

summer 2019 was crazy. I was, it's so weird about it. He went from the Tanna wedding to the Trish rehearsal to the vlog squad. Trish, vlog squad.

Tiana, oh, she was the, she was that thing. All the Pins at once. And I was like, that was the wildest summer of my life. That is crazy. So you've been in it for a minute

because I've really like, I've discovered you like a couple years on TikTok and I was like, oh my God, I love you're so funny. And then obviously I've been seeing you around like everywhere now. And I was like,

oh my God, it's so crazy. And then when you came with the Hot Break Tour, I was like, that's insane. How did you not get the invite? Because you were everywhere this past week. I've seen you at all the events. How did you not get the invite to update? I don't know.

I really don't know. I'm so, actually, I've never actually been upset ever. I'm never jealous. Never, because I'm like, you know what? I'm Trisha. I've done everything. Did not get invited. I was so jealous.

I was so like. I was jealous. I never get upset about that really either. I don't either. But I was a little. I only get mad. I guess not mad. Mad is crazy.

Yeah. Mads are crazy. Me too. I get annoyed if I don't get invited to like a Bravo event because like that was like a lot of my content at first. I'm like, I'm like invited and I wheezel my way into it. I need to know.

And that's why I'm kind of glad you're here for this too because you talked about, you did like a rundown of a hot topics that were bothering you like last week. And I literally didn't know any of them. And I feel like I'm pretty tuned in. I'm pretty like, but Bravo I'm so tuned out of. And I know it's like such a big fandom and I want to be in it because I'm like, wait, everybody loves the housewives. Everybody loves.

You need to be on real house as I ever really helps. This is the one you think I should be on. Of all, not Summer House. I don't know what Summer House is, but you mentioned it, and I was like, should I be on that one? I would love to see you in Summer House, but I don't think that works for you. Okay, not me, okay. I don't know what it is.

I'll explain. You should be in real house size because I honestly think the ratings would go through the roof. Yes, you came and you're like, you should be on real housewives. You might be the only one that's still married. And I was like, oh, that's so interesting. I would die to see you have a conversation with Kyle Richards. I, that's so funny. Or Sutton, honestly.

Which one, Sutton? What's she do? Sutton is this girl. She was married to some, like, billion. who is from Atlanta or something like that. Okay. She got like this crazy like alimony. I think she gets like 300 grand a month.

Oh my work. From this dude and she found out she owns like a baseball team and all this stuff. So she just like casualty lives in Belair. She has like a, she has a clothing store. I think it's still open. But like yeah, she's like a little awkward. But she's kind of fun. I love awkward.

I'm awkward. So I love it awkward. I think Erica Jane would hate you because you'd be totally stealing her vibe. Okay, but you'd be doing it better because you have like the funds to like actually produce music and do music videos. and she used to have that. Well, she used to. Yeah, but then, you know, the husband.

But she's also in her 50s. So I am like, you know, I'm like the Erica Jane, like, yeah, back in, because we shared a lot of dancers, a lot of the same glam. Oh, you do? Yeah. And so I was always like, my choreographer, Cedric danced with her for so long. Like, we always shared like a lot of the same dancers and stuff like that. And I loved what she did.

And then that happened. So I'm always like, but you just never know where I'm going to be in 50. You know when I'm like, who I'm like, but I saw her at a party. I was at a pride event. I was just thinking of your house. I'm like, I am at my house a lot. But I went to a Pride event at CAA, and she was there.

She was like the guest DJ. And I was gonna walk past her because we were gonna leave. She came like later, we'd go early and I was about to leave it. I'm like, I'm just gonna walk right past her because obviously everyone in picture. I don't even think she knows me or cares about me. And she stopped me and she was like, Trisha,

like I love what you're doing. You're so great. Stop it, she was my info. For the record, Erica Dayton was my inspo. I loved her so much because I loved that someone could just self fund their pop star life. And that's what gave me the hope, gave me the courage to do it.

I was like, you know what, period. And she had that Vegas residency. Why don't you have a Vegas residency? She gave me hope for it. I don't think that's, like, out of reach for you. I would love. That'd be the dream. That'd be the dream.

Maybe if I could get on housewives, then I can get the fan base to get a Vegas residency. Oh, and I also want to see you interact with Amanda. Amanda's the new girl who everyone hates on everyone else. Wait, why do they hate her? I think they hate her because she's young and she doesn't give up what they think. What's young? She's like late 30s, I want to say?

I need to be on housewives so I can be young because I'm 30 and I'm young. Compared to you, compared to all these influencers. I'm like, damn, I feel so old, but I would be young on housewives because I'm 38. Yeah, no. So I think she's like 38. Love that. They all like, okay, so here's the thing. They all, like, basically don't like that she flashes, like all this designer stuff she has.

She's basically new money because she has this book called Richest Fuck. Okay. And she, her whole thing is like, I manifest my money. I got it for manifesting. And she created like this whole, like, book to like inspire people to manifest and get money. So everyone thinks her. I love that. Right.

Literally us. How do I do that? But everyone thinks, like, her, like, business is nefarious because of that. And it's like, okay. And it's annoying because I'm like to live in LA is to know someone who does absolutely something so nefarious and wondering how they have money. Yes, yes, yeah.

So like sitting here pretending like you've never met someone like this is like so annoying. Oh, so they're like, but that's so crazy to me because all of them, I mean like, Erica Jane married rich so she had her money. So it's kind of weird to like judge other people for how you like get your money, right? I don't know what I mean.

Who was judging? Call it out. Bose. Bose is on there. And Bose is, did the Bose headphones headphones? Oh no. Oh no. What's

Boz? Because he's a Diwana and you're like, I'm like trying to say who's DeMuan? No, that's so. Bo's. Who did Boes? Oh,

Boes is like this girl. She was like the CEO of Uber and like a bunch of other companies. Oh, and she was judgy. And she was judgy. She created the own, her own empire, I guess. I mean, that's kind of ambush.

Well, she was like, she was C. Sorry, she was like a CMO like all these different companies for like short amounts of time. What's CMO? Marketing, Chief Marketing Officer. Oh, so she didn't create Uber. No, she didn't create it.

Oh, okay. She was just just. like, you know, she had like a lot of high up positions and she'd go to the next and the next. And then people kind of criticize her because they're like, well, why was she like at these businesses for such a short amount of time? Yeah.

But I guess if you, but I, my friend wants to be a CMO, she's like on track to do that. Yeah. And she told me that it's like normal to have like a short tenure being a CMO because you have an objective and then once the objective is over, I guess you go on. I could be wrong girl.

I don't do any of that. And she's on Housewives now? So what she? She's on Housewise now. And then she got the show with Jimmy Fallon like right after. What's that? Don't know, got canceled. but like, you know, she has, like, marketing objectives.

Like, she has aspirations. She's getting married to this guy named Keeley. Is he rich? To be determined, don't know. They're engaged. Got it, got it. I think he has money, but, like, she has definitely has more money than him.

She has, like, a vibe going for her. And, but she was judgy to this new, what's the new ones? Amanda. Amanda, okay, so she was judging to her, and how is she judgy? She was just like, Amanda, you're based, how do you have your return on investment? Like, girl, shut up, all of you. I hate, when people ask that question.

I don't know, I just have money. Like, why are you asking me what? what that means, and what do you mean? That's the funniest thing about Housewives, I'll tell you. All of them get their, like, pants in a tizzy about, like, how did you end up here? Like, how were you one of us? And it's like, like, or just about, like, their lives and their past, they get so judging about it. It's like, we all ended up on the same platform.

Exactly. We're all here trying to get something. Yeah, we're all under Andy Cohen's neck. Like, what are you talking about? How you get cast? That's what I didn't know. How do you get cast on that show? So he created Bravo?

No. He started off as, like, someone who worked in, um... He, like, was, like, he helped, like, create, like, development. That's what he would do. He would develop all the shows and he helped develop the franchise. The first real housewives he developed? Yeah, well, someone else, like, developed it

and then he was, like, on the team of, it was a bunch of people, but he was, like, one of the key people. He's, like, the face now. Yeah, and then, like, he would host the reunions and then, like, he got Watch It Happens Lives. So, that's kind of, like, his journey. So he doesn't, like, oversee the rest of the shows on Bravo anymore.

He just oversees, he just does executive produce his housewives. And so he... It's like, I get with him. Yeah, so he's kind of, like, a... Not everything runs by him. From what I understand, it's like not a democracy at Bravo, but he has a say and like, who stays and who goes. He was nice.

I met him. I did the live one where I'm a bartender. I'm just like, I'm okay guys. I think I want to be a bartender. I love you not. I don't know. Someone at Bravo hates me. No, wait.

Do you think Andy does? Do you know, Andy? No, he must love you. I met him once and I did a shot with him at Bravo fan fest. He must love you because you're like, and you're educated. It's because they don't, he doesn't. I don't think he knows me. You think it's like maybe a little jealousy?

No, I don't think it's. jealousy. What do you think it is? He has to know you. If you're at the... So you said your TikTok really kicked off because of... Scandival. Scandival. Which is Bravo. Yeah. Vanderpump Rules. But you know what? 10 years ago, you could have done Vanderpump Rules. What is Vanderpump Rules? It's that show about these

servers that, like, drink and like... And like, just cause mess at Lisa Vanterpum's restaurant. It's called Sir. So they all did that, like, Arianna. Because I know the crew. Yeah, she was on it. And Jacks and Britney... Jacks, Britney Stasi. Stasi. Stasi was like the star of that. And they're all bartenders. Bartenders and waitresses.

Real? At this restaurant? Or you think they casted them for the show? I think Jax was definitely like he kind of worked there but they all like worked there before the show even started.

This is like when they're young and hot. Yes. Now they're like a little older. Yeah. And some of them took off and obviously most of them didn't. Who took off? Who was the biggest star besides Ariana?

Stasi. Now, Stasi. Why do I know Sasi? Sossi baby? Stasi. No. Like what's Sassy? Is it?

You're crazy. I don't know this. Sosy Baby. Bravo is like a whole world that I want to know. Stacey Schroeder. She got canceled, but she's actually her... She's the biggest.

She's, yeah, I would say Stasi, Ariana. Who else would be the biggest? Tom. Tom, who? Sanneval? Oh, he's not. Oh, is he not? I've seen him on traitors.

America's got talent. You know, he did a little redemption on traitors, but Tom, Sanival is like pathetic. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, no shade. Now that we see, did you see that? I saw the video. I just know him from the viral moments,

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The dad or the top? The top. You're in my house acting a fool. I'm pushing you in the fireplace. And I'm not on his side. but it's like maybe why. That was the one where I'm like, okay, crazy. Why is your boyfriend's father at my home?

But didn't he call the cops and say like, oh, I have domestic violence against me, but you push you. You know what, though. How about no one? We're all pushing. We're all pushing each other. Let's no one call. Because you did it too. I should call it on you for pushing my dad.

This is a desperate self-defense, please. No one was near manslaughter. Like, that was so crazy. Because that, okay, this is the world I do what I know because I do know it's like so big. I remember when Sanneval happened and Arianna and X got to be on Broadway. And I was like, what? I wouldn't do all this stuff. Like what?

That's why I need to be on a Bravo show, but I guess you have to be a little scandalous to be on. Is Jennifer Tilly still on housewives? She's not like an official housewife. She's like a friend of. I kind of get annoyed with Jennifer Tilly being on there. I like her. I think she's cool and fun and nice.

There's just too many kooky girls on Beverly Hills right now. Like, too many cooks in the kitchen. Is there any one you like? Is there one that's like she's the best? Doree is kind of my girl. Doree got broken into. Her house got broken into. I personally believe her husband 1,000% set that up and she just is the only person who doesn't know.

But that's just me. Because it was a little suss, right? I remember that all happening. Yeah, but it, like, caused her PTSD. I actually love Dorit though. Okay, DeRee. She's a cancer. I vibe with her.

She's been on a while. I've heard the name, Dorit for so long. Her house is always in and out of foreclosure. Like, usually it's days away from a foreclosure. And then like... And she gets it out last minute? Yeah, because I think her husband is being really financially abusive right now. I think everyone's blaming her.

And, like, he's trying to put this, like, whole spending problem on her. But really, he's, like, being abusive about the finances, I think. And that, and he, like, will save the house because they have two kids together. And, like, he's just trying to force her to sell. He's trying to force the sale. And she just wants him to pay the bills and she has no idea what's going on with the money because he's nefarious as well.

And I think allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Yes, journalist. See, I'm in, Wendy Williams is my icon. Allegedly. I miss her. Oh, my God, I wish she was still on. Oh, my God, she's everything. I know.

These chairs were designed after Wendy Williams' purple chair. Honestly. I did it pink. I was getting that vibe. I was getting that vibe. I felt that feeling when I walked in here. She looked so, like, tiny that little chair, you know, with her little mince and her tea.

Oh, my God, I love her. She's my best. She's my best inspiration. I know, my everything. I love her more than anything in the whole world. You're kind of like the new, you're like the white Wendy Williams. I wish I could be more real like that.

I'm so scared of getting canceled. I think back in the day. How are you scared of getting canceled? You've gotten canceled like 18 times. I really want to know how you're so scared. I think because I'm like, people finally are like like me and I'm like, you know what? Let me just be like nice to everyone.

You know what you're, will you ever mean to anyone though? I feel like you just told like three people to fuck and that was that. Yeah, I guess I'm a little, I was a little wild, a little unhinged, a little problematic, I suppose, back in the day. You were, but that's a totally, everyone has a problematic era.

That is true. And I think it's okay. I think it's like, I'm okay with people like not liking me because of my past. I think some people like, you know, they have a problematic past

and they're like, I change, everyone should like me. And it's like, I don't know. But not everyone in this world is going to like you. Like I... That's how I feel.

That's why don't miss corporate. Like, you have to like, like everyone. It's like, I hate all these people. Like, that's how I always felt. I'm like, I have to pretend to be nice to these people. Yeah.

And then one time, remember one of my bosses was like, why don't you just tell this person how you feel? Like, if I do that, they're going to go and tell you, I'm going to say something not nice. And it's like, you've seen my content. Were you sassy back in the day, like, when you worked at corporate or were you trying to keep it together? I was a little bit of, but I always, like, minded my business. But then a hater would always come from me and I'd find out through the grapevine. And then I would have to be a little nasty.

Oh, no. Or like, you know what I would do. Yeah, no, I feel you. Sometimes someone would be nasty to me and I could tell they were trying to, like, get something out of me. And I was like, I'm just not in the mood for this. So I would kind of like ignore them. Like I remember one time my boss was like, you should apologize for this thing.

And I was like, I think I don't owe them an apology. And I'm just gonna never talk to them again. Yes, yeah. That's hard. How do you hold it back though? How do you hold it back? I just, it's code switching. I'm black, so I have to operate differently.

So I can't like be like, I just have to like kind of be like, I just like. What does that mean? How do you operate differently? I'm just like, okay, sorry you feel that way. Like, it has to be very nice, nasty. Okay, okay, okay. It has to be very nice, nasty.

Okay, right. Then, like, if I run it back, like, you can't really say I was rude. Right, right, right. I see what you mean. Yeah, I just had, like, an attitude. And it's like, and then I just move on because, like, I don't live at work. Like, I'm just like, and some people, they have nothing else to do. Yes.

But then again, like, and then also I feel like I was always pitted against other people. Like, I'm like, and I'm an only child, so I don't know competition. I can do competition if I care enough. But it's like, why am I competing with her? Like, we are different. Why would they pin you guys against each other? Like, what would be the reason? Um, I just feel like that's just how it is.

Like, I'm just, I just feel like that's naturally how it is when you're working corporate. Like, there's always like a competition going on. And it's like, and also, specifically when I was at ET, everyone wanted to be on camera. And that was like, and I was out loud about my goal because I just feel like closed mouths don't get fed. Very that. And then I feel like there is competition. One time I had a boss tell me, she's like, oh, there's like a pecking order here. I'm like, okay.

Oh, weird. And that was like, weird. And I love the divo who told me that like, no shade against her. But looking back, I was like, that was crazy to say to me. That's crazy. crazy because like we're there for a reason. Like you're there, you're there, a job.

Yeah. And there was this idea that I, like, I wasn't talented enough. And I was like, okay, the buck stops here. Wait, how do you know? You felt that or someone said that to you? I just felt it. Wait, that's crazy.

I always felt it. Like, I just wasn't like, I think in their eyes, like, and I would hear it, people would tell me, they'd be like, they don't think you're good enough. Wait, that's crazy. Because as soon as I saw you on TikTok, I was like, oh my God,

who is this person, you're so funny. And we'd, like, talk about you. That's when Oscar's like, oh, I know him. I was like, wait, that's so crazy. Like, it's so wild to me because you always have that, like, wow factor, that star power. Like, that's so wild that anybody would think that. But interesting that you said, because you're so, like, locked in. Like, I feel like now with influencer world, do you feel like there's any competition when you meet other influencers?

Um, I don't. I mean, like, I feel, I can tell when other influencers are competing with each other. But I try not to, like, compare myself because, like, I'm not, like, the biggest influencer in the world. Like, I'm not Alex Earl. But you are at every event. you were, I will tell you another one, I was so jealous. I've actually never, like, I'm like you where I'm very much like, I'm 38, I've been around, I get great opportunities.

I know you're going to say Desperate Housewives. How did you know? Because that's like your era. But I've rewatched Desper Housewives 22 times, so that's no shade either. I just knew you were going to say that. It's my era. You're not going to be mad at me for being at like Ozzy Christmas on Saturday. I don't even know what that is?

But I think Ozzy Osbourne. I'm like, were you at Ozzy Osbourne Christmas? Like I think that. But like, I think like with Desperer Housewives and I went back to your TikTok. I was scrolling, you had a paid partnership with Desper Housewives. I did, yeah. And I have another one coming out of that. Ah!

That should be me. I'm never, ever, ever, jealous ever. And I saw Alexis Oakley was also at the Desper Housewives. Oh, yeah. I was hanging out there because her manager used to be my manager. Oh, my God. Can you tell me what it is? I can bleep it.

Who's her manager? Okay, work. I know. Once I got an agent that, like, changed everything. I feel like I only got one like two years ago and I was like how this is everything. Oh, I love my agent. I told her I was doing this and she was like, you better go over there. Oh, I wondered.

How does that work with? because some agents, you know what I do? This is why we don't book guests a lot or like guest posts or anything like that. It's because I would be like, hey, do you want to be on the podcast? Like, yes, here's my, like, manager's number. Oh, like, oh, my gosh. And now I'm dealing with, like, a manager.

And it's like, it's fine. I get it because I can be that way too. But it's like, if I'm directly reaching out, like, you can directly communicate back. I was going to do a whole rant about it. I'm like, let me not because the person's going to know who I was talking about. But I hate when people I'm, like, kind of, like, friendly with. And I don't even know you.

So if you gave me your manager, it would be fine. I would talk to them. But, like, people I'm friendly with, they're like, oh, here's my manager that, like, work something. I was like, no. You know what's so funny? If I was doing therapist, I'd be like, yeah, talk to my agent. Oh, interesting.

But we know each other. We're, like, friends, you know, but you didn't know we were friends. So I was like, oh, let me just be cool about it. Yeah, you were community directly. By the way, the reason why I'm even here is because I hired an Etsy which recently. Stop it. Are they still around? I thought they could eliminate at the Etsy witches.

Well, she's not really Etsy. I found her through my friend who talked about it on TikTok. She used to date one of my friends. But her and I are so cool. So I saw she talked about on TikTok. And I texted her. I was like, who's your, like, witch? And so I did like a, I did like a career growth like spell.

And like literally two days later, you were like, are you available? And I was like, oh. And then the Etsy mailed me the next day saying like, hey, Farai, your spells been cast. I was like, oh, no, that's not to me. That is crazy. No, I've always wanted you. I've always been like, oh my God. You have you on the podcast.

Right, right, right. Right. Always did. And it just, yeah, it was crazy because it worked out. I was, like, so excited. I was like, oh, my gosh, you're like, because you're just so smart. When we do, like, hot topics, I know about, like, the hot topics I know about,

which is, like, Shane Dossett or something like that, but I love the ones that are outside my room. Is he alive still, too? Have you never heard his hot topic? His hot topic was, um... Does he do hot topics? No. Does anyone care of it?

He was... Only us. I think we're the only people talking about him. And everyone's like, well, you're still talking about Shane. I think there was something where Tanna did the Netflix documentary. You know the Netflix documentary trend where you'd, like, Oh, I didn't. Oh, that trend. Getting ready to do a documentary about whatever.

And she did one with Trevi and getting ready to do a documentary about us being in a Shane Dosson videos. And then Morgan Adams, you know who this, are you in this world? I know Morgan Adams actually because she is friends with my friend Lindsay. We were at the same wedding together. And I. Oh, yeah. What wedding? Can you say or no?

Yeah, I can say. We were in Hawaii for this girl who I was friends with from college. We're still friends. Oh, and Morgan was there. Yeah, and Morgan was there. That's so right. So then Morgan commented and she was like, oh, she's like, well, you. but he was your dad, basically saying,

like, you thought he was cool when he was, like, helping you out, but now you wanna, like, turn against him, basically. And she's like, if you can grow, like, why can't you give him the chance to grow? So everyone was just like, oh, my God, Morgan Clap back. And people's, like, argument to that was like, well, Tanna was, like, 18. And Shane was, like, 28. And they're like, she said, and Tana pee on you and stuff, you know. A little bit of an age gap.

Yeah, so I think that was, like, the whole thing. My whole thing was, like, I was just, I saw the comment back. And I was like, that's what I was saying earlier, too, is like, if you did something that, like, hurt someone, right? you don't ever get to like, oh, just get over it. Like, they can talk about it for as much as they want. Like, if I've hurt somebody, and even if I've apologized, it's like, they're allowed to still, like, be mad at me forever.

Or, like, groups of people who think I was problematic. Like, I'm like, you can still be mad at me. I'm never going to clap back and be like, I've grown. So they're just, like, move on from it. You see, like, someone who, like, gets over things quickly. What's your sign? I'm a tourist. Okay, love that.

I have a lot of tourist friends. It's funny. I, yes and no. I get over things quickly, but then I can also hold things on. But I have learned to let it go in my older age. Well, you have, like, children in, like, a life and, like, a home. Can I say that part? I think once I've been, I used to not have a life.

So when I was, like, really angry and, like, yelling at people on the internet, like, I... Like, I had no life. Like, that's just what it was. I would be on all hours and I'd just being like, you're the worst. You know what I mean? Is she okay? I mean, I don't know. Last time I saw her, she was posing, like, a million minutes.

I don't know if she is. I hope so. I hope so, too. I do wish her the best. Yes, I feel... YouTube just, like, die, babe. I was... It's really hot.

Why do you think that? Were you ever into YouTube? I was like, I watched Shane Dawson videos in, like, high school. I remember when he did... What was that character he would do? Shennay. That was like a little problematic. His characters were a little problematic.

And then he did the Degrassi reboots that were so crazy. I know, I've never seen that. I never even seen DeGrassey. And I know that's my generation too, but I've never seen DeGraffi. Oh, my God, DeGrasi taught me everything I needed to know. Oh, you loved it. You were a Degrossy person. Oh, yeah.

That's how I discovered Drake. I'm not like these other girls who heard Drake on the radio one day. Like I was like, oh, that's Aubrey Graham. And do you still love Aubrey Graham? Yes, I'm sorry, I do love Drake. Love Drake. I was never on Kendrick's side. You know why?

I'll tell you why. I don't even know. The allegations were all like, woman beating allegations. Oh my God. Who had them? Kendrick, Drake accused Kendrick of woman beating. Oh my God.

Candrick accused Drake of like, like, yeah. And we were all having like a bad person off. And I was like, and then somehow Kendrick won this war. And it was like, wait, but what do you mean? But everyone had. I'm bad allegations. This is the rap game.

Are you a Drake defender? I'm not a defender. Being a Drake fan is knowing that he's unserious and corny and he will embarrass you. And you're just got to know that. Swifties could really learn from that. But like... The Swifties could learn for the Swifties. Because the Swiftis will never admit you that the wedding was tacky.

And no shade and it was... They can't even tell you that it's tacky. They can't even say like, love my diva, but this was really off. They can never admit it. Are you the Swifty? No. Oh, no. I was at this really nice wedding in Brazil and everyone's like,

are you at Taylor Swiss wedding? And I was like, nah, this wedding has class, I know. But we didn't see pictures. Did you see any pictures? Maybe it was classy inside? I hope so. Okay. It has to be.

And I love Taylor. I like, you know what's so funny? I actually, people think I hate Taylor Swift. I don't. Do people think that? I never knew that. I just don't think Taylor Swift music has been good in the last like three years. Maybe it's why you and Oscar are not close anymore because we got Swifty number one over here.

Oh, I was hating swiftly behavior way back then. But the one thing I admire. But the one thing I aren't close. They're still close. They talk to each other. He's always like, oh, I talk to them all the time. No. But like, I just don't like the Swifty audience,

but the one thing I love about Taylor Swift, like me and Taylor have a lot in common. Like, she loves attention just as much as I do. Yeah. And I love, I respect it. Now, she just does it in this really tacky way. Well, yeah, I guess money doesn't always buy taste. I don't know if she's tacky or not.

I don't really have a say in any of it, but. So you so do. I don't. I don't. I don't, that's definitely not shade either. I just don't know. I know there's people that, like, I know there's people that like dislike her and there's people love her.

I don't get the love. I don't get the obsession. I don't get the hate either. I'm like, I don't really know. Who do you stand? Do you stand anyone besides yourself? I don't know if I even stand myself. Who do I stand?

Maybe I don't stand anyone anymore. Britney Spear, I know, I'm so millennial. My own little romance. She does she live... She does love... She lives down the street. Why don't you see her? I see her at CVS, actually.

I've seen her a couple times at CVS. Is she doing good? Yeah, she's always like with some guys. She always seems like she's like, I think she's doing fine. Okay, that's good. I don't know. I don't know, but I love her. I don't really stand people, I guess, anymore.

I don't know. How about you? Who's your biggest stand? I don't really stand people anymore either. I don't think I ever... Well, you know what? When I was at eighth grade, I was so obsessed with Lauren Conrad. What?

That's so random. You cannot judge any Taylor Swiftie fan because Lauren Conrad is kind of my Taylor Swift. They're giving same energy where it's just like, I don't get it. No, I like went to her book signing and everything. And what did you say to her? I was like, I don't. I'd like totally like, ah, short-circuted.

You know what? Yes, I do. What is she doing? She lives in, you know what? I actually ran into her like two years, back in like 2020, randomly. I was at three arch beach in Laguna. It's like this.

What's three arched beach? I don't even know what that is. It's like this private beach and Laguna Beach. Oh, okay. Access through gate. So I'm assuming she lives in the gated community. But it's so funny, I was on the beach. And I was like, he looks so familiar.

And I think I'd been creeping on her Instagram like maybe days before. Oh, so you just like, recognize. And I was like, who's this little boy? And I was like, he looks familiar. and then I look back and it's Lauren Conrad and her husband. And they're just like chilling and like doing whatever. Do you say anything? No.

No, you don't. She was like, I want to respect her privacy. Okay, I love that. Because she's not trying to be famous. Is she not out of the spotlight now? She's a podcast. Well, she did the Laguna Beach stuff and like she did the recommended press tour for that. But she doesn't, she posts like once a year.

I think this year she had to post like three times a year because she was doing that Laguna Beach thing. Wait, why do you think they do that? Like you think they're just over the fame and they just don't want it anymore? I think she's honestly so traumatized from like being famous in the late 2000s. Like, you know, she was famous during, like, the Hills was during that, like, Lindsay Lohan, like, when everyone was getting a DUI, baby. So, like, yeah, you're right. And, like, you know, she had those fake sex tape rumors.

And I feel like it was just so chaotic that she stepped back. And, like, I think if she's just promoting her clothing line or whatever she's doing, that's when she's in the spotlight. But, like, I just don't think she ever wanted to be super famous. Really? So you think, what do you, all the people from the Hills, who do you think has the best? Like, right, Kristen Cavalery has a podcast. Heidi and Sponsider for Podcast. Like, who do you think has done the best?

Oh, I think. Yeah, they have like Spidey Wood, I think it's called. Oh, okay. I think Kristen's doing the best because Kristen's, like, out there. But I would say Lauren is like, Lauren and Kristen are like the same. I feel like Lauren Conrad still has an audience. She still has her clothing led at Coles. Does she really?

She's had it for over 10 years. I don't, I don't shop at Coles. I don't, like, I can't wear Lauren. Do you Walmart or Coles? I've never, I don't think I've ever walked inside of a Coles. Not even going to school as a kid. Like, I feel like Coles was like the back to school place. It's 20% off coupons.

They sent you in the mail. Like, I love that. No, I grew up in a white neighborhood, so I was going to, like, Paxon and, like. Oh, and on the West Coast, too, because I grew up in the Midwest. We were pretty white back there, but we didn't have a Paxon. So maybe, like, West Coast had Paxon. Yeah, we were Coles, for sure. Paxon, like, Tilly's.

That's where I would do my shopping. Oh, that's so, like, West Coast. That's so, like, I shop a lot at, like, Nordstrom, Macy's, I guess. Oh, that's pretty. I was, like, I worked at Abercrombie. Was this one they had the bags with the hot guys on it, with their abs and stuff like that? Oh, I love that. When I was a senior in high school, I worked there for like two and a half years.

They're kind of making a comeback. Remember they hated fat people? And now they're back. Yeah. We have 16s now. Oh, my God. Wait. So you ever see the Netflix documentary?

And they were like, yeah, they got mad at me. She's like, I was traumatized because they made fun of me for not wearing the jeans. And me and I'm still friends with a lot of people. I'm still friends because we're all really young. And me and my friend were like, okay, that was like her trauma. Like, girl, it was social suicide if you didn't wear the jeans. And also like you. But could she, I couldn't even fit in them.

I did a whole video. I had a crash out in like 2010 when he said that they hated fat people. And I was like, well, you're closer. Ugly. Anyways, because I could not fit into him when I was a kid. And I was so sad about it. Because they never went above a size like 10, I think. Yeah, it was really bad back then.

Yeah. It was crazy. I know. I'm very sad. Did it? Yes. I like, it is trauma. So where did you have to go, American Eagle?

Yeah. No. No, I was going, where did I go? Hold on. Wait. Justice? Lane Bryant. Wait, where?

Lane Bryant. What's Lane Bryant? Oh my God. If you don't even know Lane Bryant, then you can't even talk to me about trauma because that is trauma. That was basically a crossing the Abercrombie. There was like a Mad TV. Do you remember Mad TV? There was a Mad TV skit where it was the hot guys at Abercrombie and then the Lane Bryant girls would come over.

And they're all over a size 16 if you're at Lane Bryant. Like it's 16 and up basically. So is that like mean girls, the mean girls equivalent like tri-seers? Yes, yes, very much that. It was very much that. And it was like, it was also for like older women. So I had to go in there as a young child to have like a size 16. It was awful.

But you've always been good looking and fit, so you don't even know the trauma of being a fatty. Maybe, I don't know. I could have been obese. I'm guessing not if you were in Puerto Ricoppy. I was like, you were not. My mom told me years ago, she said when I was like one or two,

I was getting a little bit overweight because she hired this Nigerian baby, like, nanny for me. And then the doctor was like, he's gaining all this weight and she knew it's because of the food that nanny was making, so she fired her.

Was it good food or was it like those kelting bars from like mean girls? I don't even remember. It was like meals. She was making just good food. How old were you, too? One, two, or three. Oh.

I'm also just, okay. I also have three or four, actually. There's also just like baby fat and people just have baby fans. By the way, I can't believe you're a mother. I was thinking about this about you the other day. I'm like, so like do you have like mom friends? Like, what's your day to day? Like, what time do you get up?

Like, are you like strict? Like, what do you do? Like, what's your vibe? I need a mom group. I do need to call like Megan Train or Ashley Tisdill or something like that. Oh my God, you need to be in that mom. You know there's an opening. I know.

I thought about that too. They were at the Hillary Duff concert, Mandy Moore. I was like, oh, my God, I need to go. You have to be friends with them. I don't know how I can't. I don't think I can get in that group. I know Hillary Duff is like the crime della crime of the group. Like they really all look up to Mandy Moore and Hillary Duff.

Oh, for sure. Well, probably because they're the famous ones at the group. So that's pie white. No, there's other famous people in there. Who else is in that group? Oh, actually, I guess there's like a food influencer who's there who like some people know. Is there a food influencer? I'm jealous.

It's a very diverse. And Megan Trayner. Like. Oh, she and the group. Yeah. No, Ashley Tistol is the one who left. Oh. By the way, Ashley Jistel was so in the wrong about that.

Do you think? A thousand percent. Wait, why? For doing the article? I think, like, okay, I love when celebrities do opeds because you get more, like, insight into their personalities. But, like, the moment she said she left the group chat, when she sent the message being like, this isn't for me and left the group chat,

I was like, oh, she's the problem. Oh, my gosh. And I remember when she was like, oh, and then, like, someone sent me flowers because I felt bad, and then, like, I said thank you, and they never responded. I was like, wait, so what were they supposed to say thank you to your thank you? Oh, right, that's true. I guess the whole, like, details of it was a little weird. Do you think, though, because now she's a show based on a mom group, a toxic mom,

do you think she was doing it for publicity? Wait, she does. Yes. On what? Streaming service? I mean, it's like Hulu or Apple or something. It's like a big one. We talked about it a couple weeks ago.

Shut up, I have to watch. It's like greenlit, like, yeah. Because it's like, you should be on the show. No, it's like scripted. And then I was like, what if she did all that? Because like, why would you do the article? Why would you do all this stuff like that to get the show? Or to, like, get her show going.

Wait, I don't know, I feel like maybe that inspired her, though, because I was like months ago. Well, I guess it was a series, maybe you're right. Because the series takes a minute to get scripted and greenlit and all that stuff like that. But do you think she's like excommunicated from the LA mom groups of all? Because like, if I was an L.A. mom and she was writing about, and I found out she was writing about Hillary Duff and I'd be like, well, I'm not inviting her to my kid's house. I guess, I guess, yeah, you're kind of like sidying. And I guess West Millennials love Hillary Duff. So I'm going to side with Hillary Duff on that.

But I guess her and Haley Duff could start a little mom group. I think they had a play date after that. I think they were like photographed at Nobu. I'm like, okay, Stunk Queen. You're right, maybe it is. That's what I'm saying. I was like, I think it all is a little too, I don't know. I do love Hillary Duff.

Although she did go on there. She was doing rounds and she was doing the podcast and I was really trying to get her on here and she went on. I mean, therapist is the one. I know. Well, you need to get on therapists. I have more plans for your career, I think. Okay, I love this. I love what else.

Housewives? And then you promote being on Housewives on Therapists. You think he's the It podcast right now, like definitely. Yeah, I would say so. Are you gonna go on it? If Jake Shane DMs you, would you DMs you? You know, to be honest, I would DM them back. I'd be like, yeah, this is my number.

He is kind of like, like, Alex Earl, Jake Shane, they are kind of like the podcast. I love that he's like a girl's gay. I think it's so funny. Like, there's this idea that just because you're gay, you have to be friends with other gays and like you have to be loyal to that. And it's like, but other gays are mean.

I want to say that's like, yeah, that's not even a thing anymore. I think most gays want to be friends with girls. Like it's very, because it's like a lot of gay and gay hate out there, you know. Every, like, most cases, I know, like, jealousy. I think it is. Get well soon.

I know. They need to stop. I feel like that's why Jake Shane does get a lot of hate because sometimes I think it is from, like, the outside days. Right, but I don't think he gives a f***. Like, I'm with Sophia Ritchie. Like, I'm not going to hang out with you. That's true.

He's like, I got my girl. That is so true. I know Toddra Call used to get a lot of hate too. I remember when his show came out and everyone's the real gays of WeHo and all the gays were like, we hate this. I do hate that. I hate that concept, though. I hate that concept, though, because, like, I don't know.

there's something about it that's like so like um gimmicky yeah it makes the gays look bad almost oh you okay i like i like always wanted like a gay love island like i wish there was more like queer like shows people complain that there's no love on the island now if they made gay love island oh my god that would be everything that'd be like way better i feel you'd better hope everyone actually gets tested though like that's crazy it would be a lot of sex i think they test people i think before they go on things i think they test people for s tc no i know they just they better triple dog check like sponsor by Mr. I mean, that was a great one.

That Mr. founder should be the, that Mr. founder, I feel like, just came out of no one. Oh my God. Speaking of, okay,

so the last event I was going to go to was a Mr. one. They had one at the abbey. It was like kind of like the big one and it could end up going. Why did I get a lot into that? Forget drink update.

I always want to go to that because I'm like, Needy Weeks was there. I'm like, wait, and Courtney B is there. I'm like, I'll tell you why. Probably because you were at the abbey and you're like,

look, no one's here. You were in an empty abbey. How was that? It was before that was before that. What happened? Where, like, you were at the abbey and literally nobody was there. You're like Lisa Rina effect, look at this.

Like, what? It was like a Sunday, like night. Like, it was like... But nobody was there. No one was there. That was crazy. I know. What time was it?

It looked like it was closing. Like, it didn't even look like... It was like... It was like... It was like maybe six or seven. There was not. But I think Sunday, Fundy had just ended. I don't know.

It was empty. It was like, how is that? Oh, and I feel like a lot of people were at, like, San Diego Pride or not San Diego Pride. Like all the gays were doing something else. And you were just there by yourself. I was there with my friend who was in town. She loves, she's obsessed with Vandenfumbril.

So every time she's in town, she's like, let's go to Sir. And I'm like, oh, fine. Now is Sir still around? Yeah, it's still around. Where is that? Is that still on Robertson? It's on Robertson, yeah. But Pump is gone.

Oh, yeah. Pump is like roosterfish, which is like, I hate that it's there. It's like they don't know what to do with that space. Man, I loved Pump. And then when we went during COVID, the lobster roster was gone. And I was like, this is the end of pump for me. And then the car ran through Pump. What car?

I don't know. Oh, does someone crash into it? Yeah, someone crashed into it. You think it was like a hater? You know what? There's conspiracies that Lisa Vanderpump plans her own restaurant attacks so she'd get insurance money. There's a conspiracy about it.

Allegedly conspiracy, yeah. She had like seven fires at her restaurants that were like put out and like... What about Tom Tom? Is that still going? Tom Tom is still there, but the vibe is like kind of gone because like the show's not around anymore and Tom and Tom and Tom are so like persona. They're just so like not cool anymore. So Vanipump rules is over.

Yeah, it's over. Now there's a show called The Valley. I guess you could be on the Valley, but I wouldn't want you be on the valley. I would want you be on real housewives because it's more glam to be on real housewives. Being on the valley is depressing. The valley is like depressing. The valley is great birth control. The valley is that I've watched the men and I'm just like, oh they're musty and dusty. I hate that show. I've just seen clips

of it. I'm like this show is like, the show is like really miserable except for the single people. Yes. And it's, it's, that's the one that Brittany's on. Yeah, Britney's there. She's the only one I really knew. And then I start watching the other ones. I'm like, oh my God, are these women okay? Like it's just the men being awful. You would put that show like back on the map though? I could do it. I guess technically I live in the valley. No, you need to do Housewives.

Okay, okay. Because the Housewives live in the Valley, too. Like, Kyle's in Encino. Yeah. Yeah. Once in, like, Canoga Park or something, too, I don't know which one. I'm like, oh, I kind of love that.

They're like outside of Beverly Hills. I know. Like, you all could eat at Stanley's or something. Yeah, that'd be. Joey's Woodland Hills. Like, here we go. I would actually love. I mean, maybe I will.

Honestly, people would die for you on Housewives. Okay, I need to be on it. Okay, so. And at BravoCon, you could perform. They'd let you perform. Oh, well, that's, I would love to do that, first of all. That's what we were getting at,

the Bravo con of it all. So you don't get in, you said you don't get invited to but what Bravo event did you not get invited to that? You're like, hey, what the hell?

Because you were like, outside eyeing them. It's not that I don't get invited, but like I find out about it and then I have to like ask someone and I'm like, why could they just remember me? Oh, I see.

Well, because you are kind of like the Bravo influencer. Like you do know like Summerhouse. You know, like, Summerhouse would also be crazy. What is Summerhouse again? You said that was the singles? Summerhouse is basically the show. You have to live in New York to be on it. But they all go to the Hamptons every weekend

and they like party and like whatever and they all share rooms and you know they like somewhat sleep with each other too but like... Oh yeah, maybe not the show for me. I want to go on Love Island just because they get so many brand deals after they get off Love Island. Okay, you're a Love Island stand too

because you were just showing like a whole hot topic ground down. You were out of Nicolandria party recently? Was that the one where you're Zach Efron? Oh, that was a synergy compo party where I saw Tanna. Oh. Where was that? Where was that?

It was like downtown. It was like a Halloween party and I went there and I saw Nicol- and I voted for Nicolandria. I built Nicolandra brick by brick. Really? You loved him from the beginning. I knew it was a slow burn. People would like to say they got together randomly. Only haters say that, sorry.

Okay, so tell me. And I met that I had a video with them. I was like, I saw Alandra. I was like, Allanderer, I voted for you. I told everyone in the streets to vote for Nicolander. And she was-how is she? She was nice. She was so nice.

Nick was so nice. I took a video with them. I dropped my phone literally five minutes after I took a video. I saved it as a draft in TikTok. My phone went to black. Never turned back on. Never turned back on. It took me 24 hours to get a whole new phone.

And TikTok has that glitch, not a glitch, but they have that thing where it's like, if you get a new phone, it doesn't do it. Save it in the crowd or something. I like, ah! So wait, so you're like a Love Island stand. They just broke up. Thoughts on it. Please respect my privacy. You were really sad.

No, were you shocked. I don't watch it. Of course I was shocked. I'm the president of Nickelander nation. I don't doubt that people like get together. They like each other. But obviously you all go on that show for brand deals. You couple up knowing like this is our brand for a year.

And now after a year they like broke up. It's like, okay, well, obviously that was for. But, you know, I think they were in love. No, you really think that. They were in so much love. I don't know. I shouldn't say anything. Because I know there's lots of fans out there that I want to hate. There's nothing but love and respect between them.

They'll get back together like Tom and Zendaya did. No, I think outside perspective. And I don't know. I think she just blew up because obviously I don't watch Love Island. Don't know anyone from Love Island. The only person I knew was Orlandria. And because she was at Vanity Fair. And you're just like, oh my God, this girl really blew up like overnight.

Gorgeous, everything like that. Everyone loves her. So it's like obviously You have to have a little jealousy Because he probably wanted that too Right you go on Love Island Everybody wants to be famous So he sees her blow up

And she wasn't without him And she's more famous than him Yeah I didn't even know he was a thing For a while I thought her name was Nick Olandria Like I thought that was her name And then someone's like oh no It's Nick and Orlandria

I was like I only know I'm gonna And Orlando just goes by one name She's very like Beyonce in that way That's iconic Like that you have to be at the superstar level To have that It's one name or three names What's the three names?

Who has a three name? Oh my God Mary Kate Olson Okay I love that that's the first sweaty makeup. I see you're saying, yeah. I'm an MKA girl. Yeah. Do you like Mary Kate Ashley?

Of course. Those are my girls. I grew up with them. I had all the DVDs. I had it all. The Mary Kay and Ashley Olsen fandom is very strange to me. They've totally like tried to run away from it. It's like I saw it takes two. Don't act like you. I know you're smoking cigarettes now, but don't act like you never filmed it takes two. I mean, I don't know the lore of any of them, but I appreciate the stand them for it.

I feel like you like you too. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Like I do stand so many millennial females. I just don't know. Wait. Do you have any secret?

Celebrate celebrity fans who are, like celebrities who are fans of you. Secret celebrity fans, no. I think if I did, they would be on here. I don't think I did. Chapel around for a minute. Before she blew up, she used to talk about me in, like, interviews, like, nylon magazine. She'd be like, I'd have Malibu Barby and Trichipa.

Like, you know, be my opener or something like that or like half-time show. And I was like, oh, that's cool. But then she blew up and got really big. She almost, we almost had her here back when she was really big. What was it? Two years ago. We were so close. And what happened?

I don't know. I think she's had to cancel. Maybe for the best. I still love her. I'm still a fan, but yeah, maybe. I like her. I just am like, can you please stop complaining? Like, you're famous now?

Like, Sabrina Carpenter's not complaining and you shouldn't either. But do you think it's the same effect of, like, Lauren Conrad, where they get really famous and they didn't want to be that famous. They were like, I don't want to be this famous. She definitely should have been Slater famous. Like, you perform at the Abbey. I love Slater. Oh, I love Slater.

Oh, I love Slater's our Coachella. Oh, she's so iconic. And I feel like there is a Slater famous, but I think she should be so famous. Like, I think Slater is like, should have her Zar Larson moment. Slater wants. wants what chapel wants. Chapel wants. Chapel wants what Slater wants and we should all do a freaky Friday. Ooh, that would be everything. And Slater is so good.

But then, do you ever worry then that they become that super famous and then they change a little? Because I don't think that people know what to expect when you get super famous. I think, like, it's hard. I feel like this generation like doesn't love fame the way like we want it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No one's built like us. That's what I'm saying the millennials, like, especially my age, like the Hillary does and all, they're with Lizzie Lowhan's. They wanted it.

They wanted the fame. They wanted to be seen with like at the clubs. everything like that. And I think Paras Hilton, too, is a good example. Like, you're right. I think people... They just don't. Like, Olivia Rodriguez, like, does she want it? Like, she wants it and she... Oh, actually, Justin Bieber's a great example. Justin Bieber is very good at pretending to love his fans, but he hates fame. No, you think? Oh, he's so good at pretending.

You think? It's kind of everywhere now. He's kind of like at the World Cup. Coachella, like, it's kind of everywhere again. Well, it's Christian propaganda. Like, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Who's pushing him? Jesus? Yeah, honestly. Like, who's pushing him, you think that? I think he's just, like, you know, he's indoctrined by Hill Song. Who knows? What's El Song?

It's like this church that all the celebs go to. I remember him and Selena Gomez used to go when they were like being godly. Oh, is it the one like, is it kind of a bougie one like in Bel Air or something like that? Is it that church or not? I don't know if it's in Bel Air. I thought it was in the valley. I could be wrong. Okay.

I know there was one with like giant screens that everybody was going to for a while. I went to church home once. Oh, you're so in tune with us. Okay. So wait, why? Why did you just because? Well, I heard that Justin Bieber would perform. So do you like Justin Bieber?

I like purpose, anything before like purpose. I love purpose, but like anything before that too. I don't know what that is. But okay, that's like his main album, his big album. It's like a thriller. What do you mean? Oh, okay, that's a great song. And then it's like, um, he had that other song,

Is it too late now to say sorry? I should leave the singing to you. No, that's great. Are you a singer? You're not good? No. I thought that was pretty good. Did you go to Beepercella?

I did and I was so annoyed I stayed up for his set. It was so boring. We really? I didn't watch, but. It was just really boring. Oh no? So you lost to Beaver fever. I was like really late to Neon Carnival.

And I was like... But I heard that was kind of lame this year. I don't go to Coachella, but that looks like... So the thing about New and Carnival, you have to get there kind of when it starts, and that's when you have like the maximum fun. Yeah. I always skip the Saturday person at Coachella because I'm like, I don't really care that much. Yeah.

Or like, like, I remember Billy Elish did it one year. I was like, okay, well, I love Billy Elish. So you just like to go to the parties and to like hang out and be amongst the people. Well, I like to see who I want to see. Like I really wanted to see Addison Ray. I've been rooting for Addison Ray. Love Addison too! She's such a queen.

Love her so much. Famous A Gun. I think she was at David Dauberk's party, I think, allegedly. I think I saw it. That's okay. Addison's like our new birthday. Okay. You're right.

We give her a pass. You're right. Okay. Okay. David Daubert to me is like the Leo D'Odara DiCaprio of Hollywood for this generation because it's like everyone's always with him, partying with him at a secret after parties. I would give another example, but I won't say it because I don't want to get sued. I would give a. But we can bleak that.

Have you ran into David Dauberg in years? Never. We remind me? What did you do to like upset these men who aren't famous anymore? Like, they should be sucking your. Honestly. And keep that in there. Because I mean it.

I'm like, they're probably so mad that like you were going off. What was it? It was, oh, well, I mean, this is. People hate when I talk. I was like, talk about not letting something go. Me being like, I'm never letting it go. But I'm asking you.

Okay. I mean, TLDR, I learned that term from Oscar. TLDR is just they made a lot. You know what it was? It came back to Tanna, actually. They made a lot of inappropriate jokes about Tana. who was very young at the time, who was like 19. I was 29.

And they both were making disgusting sexual jokes about Tanna and me. Like off cam? No, on cam, which was even worse. And it was 20-post me too. Yes, yes. It was bad. It was really bad. And I was like, the first time they did it that week, I was like, that's not cool, delete it.

They kept it in. Oh, sorry, whatever. Then the second time. So basically they kind of like got me out. They're like, okay, no more filming with Tritch after that. So then they went and did it again two days later with Madison Beer and Tanna. And they're both young at the time. I never blamed the girls.

I always stood by the girls. I was like, that's so gross. They were being creepy and being like trying to, again, making sexual things. And I was like, so then I was like, what the fuck? Like, why did you do it again? And then they basically like, we'll get over it. And I was like, oh, hell no. So I then I made a whole exposed video.

And I was just like, well, let me tell you about this, this, this and this and this and this. And how awful you guys all are. And I should have done it earlier. I should have. Because people like, why would you have like waited just until they pissed you off? And I was like, yeah, I should have done it earlier. But I was like dating somebody in that group. and I was like trying to like, I don't know.

You just think to go with it. But that was like too far from me. And I remember the Tanna situation. And they actually had her come over. And I remember her being like uncomfortable. I like pretended to sleep and her being uncomfortable like whatever. And you know, Tana was like, this is why I kind of like stand by Tana still too. And I love Tana.

I love Tana. She's a cancer. So I feel like we also have like a sister vibe. Your birthday just happened. Happy birthday. July 11th. It was right before Aquaman's birthday. He was, I went into Labor July 11th.

And I had him at midnight. Yeah. Oh, July 20. Yeah. And Oscar is July something. July 14th. Yes. I do love my little cancer babies.

There's a lot of cancers in my life that are there. Shane's a cancer as well. I loved him at a time. You know what I mean? Close to your heart. But with the whole thing with Tanna, I do defend her because she's talking about the Shane videos. And she was young.

Like she started to be an influencer at 15. People started clabbing with her at 16, 17. And yeah, doing weird sexual stuff like peeing on me. Like Shane is having 18 year old Tanna pee on her. And it's like, yes, of course. Tana is like going along with it at the time because like what 18 year old isn't. And she doesn't, she's trying to blow out.

Yes, of course. So you kind of just go with it. and you know, whatever, there's just stuff that happened. So I always, like, will defend her because I'm like, damn, she really got put through, like, a lot of shit. Obviously, like, she knows she's been, like, done problematic stuff. I've done it. You know, like, people have done it. It's, like, owning up to a trying to accountability.

And she only knows, like, who her icons are. Yeah. And she, and people say that. And it's like, it's fine to idolize. But do you see where that the problem is? She idolized Shane. And then that happened. And she still feels some type of way about it now at 28 years old.

And I think that's okay. And I think that, too. And people will love to come and, like, well, Tricia's problematic. And it's like, yes, I was. And I'm okay with people still being mad at me for stuff that I did in my bed. It's totally fine. Like, it's fine. It's like, you have to live with that forever.

So all the people trolling on the internet right now, I always say, be careful. You will live with that forever. Because you can change. You can grow. You can have kids and all that. And you can change as a person. I'm sure Shane has changed as a person. I don't know.

I don't really watch this content. I'm sure he's changed as a person. I don't know, I don't negate the fact that you also like, affected people in a negative way. And you just got to like, you just got to take it. You can't. So I think for Morgan to like, I never tell my sister or anybody to, like, defend me. I'm like, you know what?

You just got to take it. I did some stupid shit back in the day. And that's it. You got to like just own up to it forever. Right. And like the people who are for you are for you. Yeah. It's like you're not, I hope you're not living to please anybody.

No, no. Well, maybe sometimes. I don't know. Maybe not. Sometimes I think now that I have like a nice little like young younger fan base, I try to like, you know, do better. So they can be like, you know what I mean? See a little art.

Like I want them to be like, she, she, I think as I was such a mess. I think I was so messy. Like messy, I was so unhappy. I was so miserable that I want people to be like, oh, you can find happiness. So I try really hard now for myself, but also I want people to be like, you can change. You don't have to be a mess always, you know what I mean? But you're like a cute messy. I think you have like the right kind of messy.

I've grown too. You're the Wendy Williams messy where people are like, it's endearing. I think if it's me, it's like, she's a piece of shit. I think if it's you, it's endearing. But people do like get mad like whatever I have to say. Do they? On what? No, because you're like literally reporting at a sinkhole from West Hollywood, which are you by? I'm right by there. I wasn't affected by the sinkhole, but if, well, I was affected by like my walking, my walkability, my driving.

The dialogue cafe is closed. But like my car didn't drown. Like I didn't fall and slip in a sinkhole and by the water. Are those people okay? Two people fell in. Well, the news should be reporting on that, right? Did they not? Not really. I mean, I didn't see it anywhere. All I saw with these two guys being like, it's a tragic day on sunset. Oh my, it was. It was so scary. I remember being like, what the hell is happening? Because they drove from the IE to go to the Supreme Store that was, like, on the corner. So they were like, there's no parking. The Supreme Store is closed. You should be boots on the ground with, like, a microphone and, like, interviewing people.

Well, I let the news, like, interview me. I was so pissed because I was coming back from, like, I walked to the Equinox down the street. So I was, like, so mad because, like, this news reporter came up to me. He was like, can you please interview you? And I was like, fine. Wait, were you on the news? I didn't even go to look. I don't even.

I don't even think. What did they say? What did they ask? They were just like, how is this affected you? And I said like, oh my god, can't go to dialogue. Like, can't. Did you say that? Oh my god, were you trolling?

Yeah, I was trolling. Oh my god, that's so funny. I mean that. Like, see, like, I'm so annoying. Like, nothing really affected me. Like, you were just kind of like, oh, I had to drive around, go down San Vicente. Like, my friend lives in Laurel Canyon and we always, like, have, like, last minute, like, hang out. So, like, it takes me like 50 minutes to her house, but it's like 30 minutes.

I got to go home. She asked me to give her ride home the other day. We were like, at Melrose eating at some restaurant. She's like, can give me right? I was like, no, I live by a sinkhole, you got to take it so. Oh my God. So is it completely cleared up now? It's cleared up now.

Yeah, people can go through. What happened? It just bursted, busted. What happened? It was a 110-year-old water main that just like randomly bursted at like 5 a.m. That happened like in the afternoon. Like that would have been such a big deal. Yeah.

People would have died. Do you think like Weho and stuff is like, like Melrose? You said you had a lunch at Melrose. Do you think that's because, you know, I was looking at, I was on a site TikTok where everyone was getting like a robbed in their car on Melrose. And I was like, what is happening? Because like Melrose used to be so safe. I went to Coyote something.

El Coyote. And that was like a fun local bar. I don't know. It's so weird. I love that you went there. That's also the place, the last place Sharon Tate went before she got, was killed.

Wait, who? Sharon Tate. Oh my, wait. Do you know her? No. Tell me about her. Oh my gosh. Wait, what?

Okay. Okay. Sharon Tate was like a famous actress. Quentin Tarrantino did the movie. Marker Robert played her. Charles Manson. They did the whole. What was the movie called?

Hillary Duff played her too. There was a couple. There's called Once One Time in Hollywood. And then Hillary Duff. played her. Oh, wait, I've seen once upon a time in Hollywood. I fell asleep halfway through, though. Well, and it was also not historically accurate because she lived, and they, like, Leonardo Caprio ended up, like, fighting off

the Mancing killers. Austin Butler was one of the killers and stuff like that. Anyways, she, her last meal with that El Coyote, which is like right next to the Quentin Tarantino, anyways, it's very old, it's very... Where would you want your last meal to be? Oh my gosh. Like restaurant? I guess Benihana. I love Benihana. Is there a good Benihana in the Valley?

Inzino. The Encino one is great. There's no window, so you feel like you're in Vegas, and you don't know what time it is. always go at 11 a.m. And you're just like, what time is it? So it's kind of like, it gets lost. Oh, yeah. I love it 11. Because you get your own table.

You go to 11 a.m. when they open. Oh, yeah. I don't like to eat with the others. No, I don't mind eating. I hate, no, I don't want to eat with others. Can I tell you?

I went to Benihana and like the next day, Kim Kardashian posted her kids at Benihana. And I was like, do you think Kim is sitting at the table with other people? She would love you. Are you friends with her? How are you not friends with her? I've been trying. I literally before you came.

I was like, I love update. Like, I love Kim. I don't know how. But then it's kind of what you were saying about, like, Andy, like, just being like, same thing with Kim. It's like, I don't know how I wasn't invited. I'm such a Skims fan. I'm such an update fan.

Like, I love everything Kim Kardashian. And I, all the influencers get invited. And I'm just like, and I'm happy for them. So I love Sokley. I love her. She gets invited to everything. She went to the Disper Housewives. Oh, yeah.

And I was like, ah! And you got paid for it. Yeah. I did a video for them. I did one, the one that you saw, and then I'm doing another one that hasn't been posted yet. But yeah. I'm so jealous. And they had like, you didn't know, but they have like little like people there.

Like they had the props, like the muffins, the gardeners. Oh, the muffins were so good. They had like. Threes muffins. Yeah. Did you watch the show or you just were like? Oh, I've rewatched it like 22 times. I can tell you everything.

I'm rewatching it right now. It's so good. I wish I could watch Just Proposites for the first time. Are they doing a reboot? Why are they doing this? Um, they're just promoting that it's back on Hulu. But from what I under. I know.

What a great promotion. You are so lucky. All of you guys, Alexa. You guys are so lucky. You guys don't understand how iconic that is. I promote them for free all the time. And it's like the fact that they're paying people to promote it is everything. No, and I've done videos about it.

Like, rating the husbands from Desper Housewives, although TikTok flagged it because I think I was making in front of men and like some hater. Oh, the husbands were the worst. The worst. There's so many of them too. Tom Scavo. He was my worst. Was he on your number one? Yes, number one.

I did best to worst. I put Carlos as the best in him is the worst. Carlos was everything. Honestly, Carlos rode hard for Gabrielle. And she would like cheat on him to all stuff. and he still rode hard for him. He didn't have her too, remember? That's true.

But then he went blind, so I guess that was, like, his, like, karma for it. Do you remember the quote? Do you remember when, this is my favorite quote of, like, them? Like, remember when they took in Shao Mae, that, like, Asian, like, housekeeper? Oh, yes, yes.

Gabriol didn't want to take them in because the church was forcing them because they had the money to do it. Oh, right, right, right. And then she was like, we're not doing that, Carlos. And he's like, you're so selfish. Like, you would turn down Joseph and Mary from the inn. That's true.

And Gabrielle goes, well, they should have called a head. And I was like, T. She was so good. Why is she not there? She should have been there. I saw Mary Alice was there. You know they all don't f*** with each other. Well, I don't think they f***ed Terry Hatcher.

But Terry Hatcher wasn't there? No, she was. I just don't, I think there's a lot of, like, the beefs on that show just run deep. They, like, yeah. They just had a Desper Housewives con where they, like, all of them were together and you could take a picture with. But Eva Longoria was there. Marsha Cross was there, but Nicola Sheridan was there.

Yeah, Nicholas Sheridan was there. But that wasn't like an ABC thing. That was just like something they put together. Oh, you think they just got paid to be there or something like that? Yeah, they were just kind of like, whatever. There's a clip that goes viral of Tom Scovo, and it's literally Lynette being like, oh, you got, you got this pizza again. Like, you didn't get the thin crust or whatever.

She was, you know, I like the thin crust. And he's like, and then he's like, well, he's like, she would never complain about the thin crust. And she was like, so pitch. Because after 23 years, she was, I thought you would just know what kind of pizza I like. And I was like, yeah, Tom. Like, how could you not know? Not know. And it's like, you just like, you're, I didn't think it was a big deal.

And it's like, that's the problem, Tom. Tom was the worst. He was awful. He had so many... I did a TikTok with him in real life. I saw him at a lifetime event and I was like, can I do a video with you and say how like... The guy, the actor who played him? What was his name? Like, Doug? Doug Savant. I saw him and I was like, so Tom Scoffo was a husband. I was like, you're like, I was like, you're like, I was like, you're like, I was like, you're like, no, Tom was love him. He was trying to defend it. Oh, no. And then he like, he went on this Terry Hatcher as a Desper Housewives podcast.

And he went on there. He's like, yeah, this guy like kind of sold me out and like, he's like... Oh, talking about you? Yeah, he's like, but I kind of went along with it. I was like, oh, girl. Because he was awful and you should just admit it. Like, all of them now. Like, all of them should just admit that their parts were awful. There was not one good husband.

Oh, well, that's the thing. It's that, that's how men were back then. It's like, cook, clean my house. Like, a lot of the way the husband's acting that show pissed me off. They're like, why isn't dinner on the table? And it's like, make your own dinner. Like, what? Reese husband, or her second husband.

Orson. Orson. Wolf and Sheep's clothing. Oh, my God. when he made her to make the pot roast, he's like, you promised me a pot roast. And she was so tired and he's like, make me the pot roast. And she's like, crying.

And then the fans always try to say like, oh, well, they just ruined Orson after scene five. I was like, no. It was, he was always nefarious. Always problematic. Always problematic. There was not one good one on there. They were all awful.

They were all awful. Even Mike. I thought Mike was so annoying too. I thought they were so annoying. So sad. That was like, Susan had a shuddy end. At the time, yeah. But Susan was annoying.

The character, not Terry after. I don't know to think of her. She was the worst on their show. but I was so obsessed with Desper Housewives and I was hoping they were going to do a reboot because they had talked about it. They are, I think. Carrie Washington's doing like a reimagining. With Mark Cherry?

He's not involved, but I think he gave her like permission, I'm sure. And like she's going to be with Onyx, which, and I think Onyx has like a distribution deal with Hulu. I could be wrong about that. You're a Hulu partner. You should know. I love that you go to all the get up front, everything like that. You're so in it. Oh my God.

So are you a Hulu partner or just Desper Housewives? Hulu partner, yeah. So all the shows that come out? They just asked me to do that one. Just as well-tives. But Hulu invites me to a lot of stuff which I love, because I love Hulu. I love Hulu too.

You go to, are you a Mormon wife's person? Oh, yeah. Wait, really? Oh, yeah! Oh, yeah! Oh, yeah! She said the Taylor Frankie Pall was like an uptick for you. Oh, yeah.

She holds me on TikTok too, yeah. And then, like, do you guys talk because she comments. She'll comment on stuff with the deeds. She always comments on like her thing. I messaged her when before the chair, well, it was a day before the chair video through. Because, okay, I do think everything that's going on a that's going on to say, okay,

what, tell me. Because I don't disagree. I think it's misogyny because it's like, okay, yeah, she threw this chair. To be honest, I really don't care that she threw the chair. The only bad thing she did was making sure her kids were, like, the fact that her kids were there was crazy. I was like, girl, you're crazy as fuck, why are your kids there? You couldn't. If I were her and, like, the kids were there would have been like, hey, sweetie, I'm going to take you across the street real quick.

Right, right. But like, that. I guess they did leave them and go in the truck or something. Yeah, right. Or like, at least at the most, they're in bed. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, hopefully not in the house. Yeah.

Like, but girl, like, but I don't think she was wrong for throwing shit. I think he makes her crazy. I don't think she's like this toxic out of nowhere. And I feel like people are siding with him because he has all this evidence. But I feel like he's also just as abusive. They shouldn't be together. But I think also we also need to get over it because she's actively making steps to be better. And we should give her a crate and barrel deal for like durable stools.

Oh my God. That'd be the way to go. I think she'll come back. I think she will come back. I think people love her. I hope so. Do you think it's unfair though that like people go, there are. a little easier and lenient with her because she is like just like this pretty girl.

You know what I mean? And she's... Well, I think the thing with Taylor Frankapal is like, she's not a liar. She openly tells you that she's crazy. She openly tells you that she's working on things. She opens you, she tells you she's toxic and she tells you why. Yeah. You've met her family.

You know why. Sure. Yeah. Like her mom and stuff. So it's like when you know that, it's like how can you... Yeah. I feel like that's why she gets a pass. The rest of the girls, they don't...

I think that's why the rest of the girls on Mormon wives don't like her. Because like, she has this Serena Vanderwoods and Geneseiqua. that the girls can't emulate. And that's the thing, all those girls like Taylor Frankie Paul, but they're just jealous that they can't get away with, but she gets away with it. Like literally everything. Yeah, that's true, I guess.

I don't know. I gotta go back and forth with her because I agree with you the misogyny. I also agree she gets away with things more people than most people would. You know what I mean? But like, men. Okay. And I'm about like other women. I think because she's pretty and skinny and it's like she fits the mold.

But who are the other women that don't get away with it? I'm trying to think. But I don't think Taylor Frankipal is getting away with it this time. I feel like something is happening with her and everyone, the powers that be are trying to like not like happen anymore. Because all her haters are like screaming loud, loud, loud, like especially the girls are Mormon wives. And I also feel like, I don't know, like if we canceled the Bachelorette,

like let's cancel the NBA, let's cancel the NFL. Right, right. For sure that, I totally agree. The guys get away with a lot more for sure. I think, yeah, I think you're right. I guess I don't know. I guess, yeah. I don't know.

It's hard to say because people are like, yeah. Like we put up with Jacks Taylor. You don't even know who that is. That's true. I do know Jacks because that's the one that was with Brittany. Yeah, and he's crazy as hell. He just got like off TV. Finally for whatever.

What happened? What was his crazy? I think the nail in the coffin was at he was being abusive towards Brittany in the home. I don't know if it was like fully abusive. I mean, I don't, I mean, I'm sure. He was being erratic. Yeah. And like it was getting scary.

And then he said he was going to rehab, but he left rehab early and like the kid was afraid of him. Oh no. There's a scene in the show where like he's asking the kid for a hug and he's like weird about it. That's what's crazy about the Valley is. They like leave in all those moments. Who's the one that's like really annoying? Danny is the little husband? Oh yeah, and he's having his own, yeah, they call him, what do they call him Dark Side Danny?

Yeah, like what, they show all that stuff. Oh my God, these people are not executive producers, they act at the final cut. It's like so crazy to me that they don't get like any say on it. I know. It is weird. Kardashians. You're into Kardashians? Of course.

I was on there. For like a second. They showed me at the Hulu event. Like I was like there and they make it look like, like yeah, I was there on. It was like when they were promoting the get real event. It's so meta, the Kardashians. Oh, I love that. Yeah.

You're all just like there. Did you talk? Did you talk to that? No, I was just like watching Chloe and Scott speak and I was like in the front and everyone's like, Fry are the Kardashians. I was like, it was a non-speaking role. Did you have to sign anything? Or they just were like signs?

Yeah, because it was a Hulu event. So it's like, okay, guys. We're filming. I'm pretty sure this year I was on Love Thy Nader because I went up to Brooks Nader and I was like, Brooke Snater say that you love the gays. And she was like, I love the gays. Oh, I kind of love that. I love her.

I think she's bad. Were you put on the ground or were you just TikToking? Like, were you interviewing? I was TikTok. When's the last time you did interviews, like red carpet? Probably at BravoCon. I hate red carpet interviewing. Why?

It's so, I've only done twice and I love it. I'm like, I wouldn't do more. I would do it for like a big brand. Yeah. But. Why do you hate it? I don't hate it. It's just like a lot.

I think it's a rush. It's like, oh my God. It is a rush. It is a rush. Like, here, let's do it. Like when I did streamies, that was fun. I was like, well, this is easy. But it's like, I don't hate it.

That's a strong word. It's just, I like it when I'm there and it's all over with. but the lead-up is just like, oh my God, who am I going to piss off? I'm going to piss off someone's publicist or, like, things like that. Right, it's a lot when you're in there and you have to try and get your thing. Because I was like, I went with access and I remember if we're wicked. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, they were very much like, go talk to them and go talk to them.

But then like, Jimmy Fallen and come by and you don't talk to him. I don't know what to ask Jimmy Fallen. It's like one of those things that really is scary because you're just like, how do you? I did one for the brat one too. And I was just like, they like go talk to this person. I'm like, oh, what if I didn't know, the person was? and I'm so bad at coming up with questions for people. I don't know.

It's a little bit of like memorizing, but also like getting headlines and like that's the problem. That's the part I can't do when they're like, oh, this is a good like clickbait one and I'm like, I can't. Oh, well, working at ET was like the military. Like every place I worked after that, I was like, like, it's so funny.

Wait, why ET so much? Why is it so. Because it's all like headlines this, they want a moment and like, and as fair. Like every outlet deserves one. The thing is I only worked up really big news outlet. So like that's kind of like, I'm kind of glad I did that because like now when I do my own content or even when,

Even when I post on substack for I Bennett. Subsack. Like, um, I like make crazy headlines because I want people to like watch them. Like that's like the one thing I learned for sure. So like, but. Yeah.

It's a talent. I mean, because Oscar does our titles too. And it's like I, it was a, oh, I learned titles from him. He has crazy titles.

The titles are crazy. I mean, and I'm always like, oh, like every time I'm always like, oh my God. There's only like a couple times where I'm like, it's a little much.

Let's change a little bit of the words and stuff like that. But it's so good. And I think that's why the podcast does cool, because, like, titles and thumbnails are everything. When I did YouTube videos, they would always, like, flop because I never did titles or thumbnails. Like, my titles would be, like, you know, like waiting in a parking lot for chicken or something like that. No, I'd be talking about, like, juicy content. And it's like, oh, and now. Did you hire someone to do your titles in after that?

Oscar does it. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Oh, on YouTube? No, they still flop. My main channel is still flop. It still gets like 40, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

No, I mean, they get like 30,000. It's totally, like, it'll be, like, live vlog. But I feel like everyone's dead on YouTube. What? Is it because Tati and James Charles? I feel like they were like the beginning of it. You think the drama get and ended it ended it. Yeah, I think it did.

Really? I think it did. But I'll never forget out when I came out. Oh my God, I was so sad. That was 2019 too. Yeah, 2019 was crazy you on YouTube. Were you a James Charles Stan? Like, did you, were you, why were you seated?

I wasn't a James Charles Stan. I just found him a little bit ridiculous and the singing career was like a lot. Like when you sing, it's camp. Okay. When he was doing it, he was trying to be, he was like trying to be Frankie Grande. And I was like, ah, I don't know. So like, but then like. I know you, Frank Grasny's crazy.

I love Frank Grasding. What do you think about him getting mad about that girl that asked him for like money or something? Oh, James Charles. Yes, yes. He was. I thought that was nasty boots. Of course. Unsharable boots.

No, there's nothing about James Charles that is redeeming to me. I think there's like if there's one person that I'm like that person should be like he'll never get canceled. I guess he's kind of the Taylor Frankie Paul of YouTuber is where it's just like people go. Oh no. She's way more likable. But I don't know. He still has a lot of fans. I guess in the same sense that like he does things that should be definitely cancelable.

And 2026. Because once again, people have to be like, well, he's a man, you gotta remember. Mm-hmm. I guess that's true. Mm-hmm. Still a man, yeah. Yeah.

I guess that's true because he still gets a lot of viewers, a lot of fans. Does he still have a palette? No? I think he does have his own makeup line. Jacqueline Hill's still around. She's on TikTok. I think she's kind of popular on TikTok. Oh, that's good.

Because I remember one time, my TikToks are flopping, and then I went to go look and it's like a million views. I'm a girl, you're getting a million views. I know what to me. I know Jackie I'm still doing seven. She's blocking everybody. Really? I love her.

She blocks people who say like compliments. She'll be like, they'll be like, I love your content. I love your new last name and they'll be like and she'll block that. Oh, well, I kind of love that. She's like, I think we're the same age and I kind of, and she's just said she's been an influencer for like 17 years or something like. And I'm like, sometimes you just have to have no, no, you just can't take people from people. I just block people too.

Sometimes I block people too. But like she blocks them if they say something nice. But maybe she takes it as, you know, sometimes I see something. And it's like, you only see the first part. And you're like, wait, is this an insult or not. I'm like, I'm not going to take the time to decide. I'm just going to block you. You know someone DMed my friend.

She's kind of an influencer. She's called the traveling nurse. I love that. But someone DMed her yesterday. We were at the soccer game and they were like, oh my God, thank you for showing off your cellulite. Like you're such a warrior.

And she was like, what kind of backhanded compliment is this? I was like, that is what you should block someone. Yeah. Do you know She's not married? On TikTok? Sounds familiar, but tell me.

She just got married. She had like a big wedding and she's got married. She's like a, I think she's like a model. Oh, she's with that hot guy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. They're so cute together.

Yeah. They're their wedding in Italy. Italy, yes. Someone said the same thing. I just love that Shea Sullivan is like clearly not on a Zepic. And she clearly likes to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner. Like they were doing the backhand. She's not even like overweight, by the way.

She's like lost weight for the wedding. And also she is just thin. She's just a thin girl. But people were trying to be, I love that she's healthy. I love that she looks healthy. And it's like there's a healthy weight for people, but people are trying to be backhanded because it's like she looks, you know, you can just tell she's done on Zepic. Yes.

I hate that. She's so tiny, but people love the backhanded compliments. People want to see. themselves and we're in this era where everyone wants to see themselves in someone like not cute. That's true. Do you think that's why Megan Trainers like, quote unquote downfall? I'm not saying she's like downfall, but like people started like turning on her because now she's thin and she's not what she's saying about.

You know what I think it is? It's kind of like the Lizzo stuff to you. I feel like everyone makes it. I think people who make a big deal, not that Megan Traynor made a big deal that's about this, but like I feel like people who made a, who were saying they were like body positive and stuff are non-ozoic. And I feel like to others it's like people feel like it's betraying. the whole thing, but it's like, okay, so, like.

Like Lizzo, do you know Remedy Joe Bader? She's another one. I love her. She's so nice. I love her, too. I love her so much. And people were saying the same kind of thing where it was like she built her platform and body positivity.

So then you lose weight. And then do you lose your audience? Do you lose your relatability? I don't know, maybe. I guess that's what you're like known for and now you're thin. Right. But Osama is so accessible. It's not like she's doing this like super rich thing that like no one has access

to you anymore. That's true. She did a surgery, I think. But yeah, same thing. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think I tell people all the time as a big person my whole life, it's like, every big person I think would be, would love to be a healthy weight if they could.

But it's like it's psychological. I've been big my whole life. I've been over 200 pounds my entire life. It's like a psychological thing. So it's like it's all of a sudden now people can be thin. Of course they're going to be thin. Like I don't know why people are surprised by it.

I don't think that goes away. I know a lot of people that have like lost weight or no Zempec and they feel like not, they still feel like they're bigger selves or they're not comfortable within themselves. So I feel like just because someone loses weight that doesn't lose that essence of like the positivity. I get by no dream mean like I guess it's more of like the you want to see yourself in someone.

And I was like that too when I was pregnant during this whole like I'm on a GLP1 now. And it's like when you see people losing weight, you can just get like a little like frustrated. Like, are we all doing this? But as someone who's on a GLP1, it's like obviously I'm not being like so skinny or anything like that. But you just feel better. You look great. Thank you. I feel better.

I definitely feel better on it. But it's, um... Did you like being pregnant? Was that like a time for you? I love being pregnant. I would keep being pregnant if I could, but I'm older. So I'm like, let me just stop. My friend just had a baby.

So I'm like, I was living through her pregnancy. Oh my gosh. Did you meet the baby? Yes. I did. She was so cute. She was trying to have a natural birth. Okay.

And then... C-section? No, I think she ended up doing it. She was going to do, like, at home. Oh, like a natural natural, like no medication, nothing. Other than she had to go to the hospital. She, well, her baby was supposed to be born on Christmas. And that...

This year? Well, it was supposed to be induced on, like, the 20th or something. And then she was like, I just want to have it on the 26. I don't want it to be on Christmas. And then she took it last year. Last Christmas. Yeah, yeah, last year. Okay, I thought you meant this year.

It's supposed to be Christmas. I'm like, damn, that's an early baby. But she was like, honestly, I think, like, I was in labor on the 25th. And then she was like, and then she said she gaslighted her whole medical team. And then they went to the parking lot with her midwife who she had. And they were like, babe, you're like seven centimeters dilated. Like, you should go to a hospital. So it's like this whole thing.

But it was easy delivery and stuff like that. It all went well. She's fine. She's alive to tell the story. The baby's so cute. Oh my gosh. That's so cute. Do you like kids?

That's a big thing now on TikTok. There's people who are like, no kids. Children. Well, children fascinate me. I don't know if I would have one of my own. Yeah. You like kids. Kids love me.

Your kid friendly. You have a good personality, very outgoing. a parent, I'd be like so insurious. I'd be like, this yelling has to stop. Yeah. There would be no terrible twos in my home. Like, I do not think so. That age is a tough one though. They're all our kids are so sweet, so respectful, but damn those. How was your daughter?

I have a three year old, a two year old, and my son just turned one. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. I'm interviewing Trisha now. Hi, everyone. Welcome back to Friyan filtered. The bomb hour. It wasn't the name for your podcast. It will be sitting on my substock. Oh my God. You need to be

on it. Yeah, you need to have a full podcast like on Spotify. Like, you're so good at it. Well, I want a deal to come to me, like... Oh, you need the cash-up front deal. Yeah, I need that. That's what I know. I tried with this one. It didn't work out.

I would say you may be happier in the long run if you just find your own ad, like through your agents, like just get your own ad deals. You might get more money that way. Sometimes cash up front, they kind of... I don't know. Look, I've never gotten a cash-up front deal. I don't know.

But what I've heard from other people who've gotten cash-up fronts is... Is it like an advance? Like, if you write a book? Sometimes. Sometimes, I've heard different things with different people because I know people get. Sometimes, right, you get a million dollars.

Like, oh, my God, a million dollars up front is great. But then, yeah, sometimes you have to recoup it. And they may, like, say, like, let's say you get an ad deal for, like, an ad read for $5,000. They'll, like, just say, oh, it's only $1,500. So it takes a longer time for you to recoup. So someone, I know got, like, a million-dollar podcast deal. It could take them four years to recoup when they could have made it in the first year. And they're stuck in the deal.

Okay. So I've heard that. But you're probably smart. You probably know. I don't know. Never happened to me. I try to get cash up front. Never happened.

So. But maybe if you're like with Hulu and stuff like that, you know, you get Netflix. Hulu needs to like get, they have this little like show called like the Get Real like podcast. I need to ask my agent, like, can you get me on that? I think you're going there today. No, you're not going to get. You're going to a different podcast today. Yeah, real is like that. I think that's the one I was thinking of. That's like a, what happens life. Like they have on Hulu now where they like discuss like the new shows that drop. I know they were discussing million dollar nannies.

Yes. Yeah. You watch that show? I haven't yet. It's on my list. I have so many shows on my list. What's all on your list? What are their new shows?

I have not watched Real House as of Rhode Island because it came out during Coachella season and I was just like really like concerned about... Of Rhode Island. Like what's happening in Rhode Island? Oh, it is... I heard it. It is the gag.

A Rhode Island. Yeah, Rhode Island. The little tiny one, the tiny state above New York. Oh, yeah. And they all like... Some of them like make fun of each other for like living like so far when really they're only like five miles away from each other.

It's so ridiculous. Oh, are they all rich? Is all the housewise rich? Is that the gimmick? Rich in spirit? That's why you need to be on house size. You'd be really rich. I'm rich in spirit.

If you got fired from housewives, like it wouldn't affect you. Like it wouldn't like shape your personality because you are who you are. You think how to get fired? No, you'd be like Lisa Rina. Like Lisa Rina had a career before.

She's gonna have one after. That's true. She was offended on Traders when they're like, I'm not a housewife. But you would be like... I don't mind being known as a housewife. If that's what gets me on Traders, I'll be like, I'll be a housewife.

Like what I mean. You should be on Traders. No, I don't think I can unless I go on housewives or something like that. You need to be on Dancing with the Stars. You need to be on so many shows That one I do That's another one like the update

Where I'm like seeing all these people Go on Dancing with the Stars It's like really just I love them But like like a Savannah Bananas On Dance With Stars this season And I'm like wait what I just learned who Savannah Bananas

What's like three months ago And I love the Savannah Bananas But how are you getting on How are you getting on My friend got free tickets To Savannah Banana Show No well no she was like

It's in New York And I'm not going to New York For Savannah Bananas And I was like Why I get confused About Savannah Bananas I'm like They're playing stadiums

They're like at the Dodger's JDM. I'm like, what the hell? I was going to see the Savannah bananas. Do they actually play baseball, by the way? They play baseball and they sing. One of my favorite Broadway stars, Derek Klanner just joined. He was one of the Fierros on Broadway, and he just became a Savannah Banana. And I was like, I kind of love this.

But he's like a famous Savannah Banana. I feel like the one that didn't see the star is like no shade because I would love to be on. But like, I don't know. Have you seen High School Musical too? Of course. Okay. That's why we were dressed with Troy Bold and I was like, oh my God, my spirit animal, he's made everything.

I'm about to do another one. I'm about to do another Troy Boldin video. Yeah, you did Ben on it. era. That's my favorite. Anyways, what about High School Musical 2? I love. I would say that song I don't dance is like Savannah Bana is coded. Like, I don't dance Oh yeah, I know you did. Oh yeah, I love that one.

That's the one where they thought they were like they were shipping them together. Oh, Ryan and Chad? What was his name? Chad? Yeah, they should date. High School Musical was gay in so many ways. Did you know Ryan was not gay? The actor who played him? Oh, he's not? Lucas Gabriel. He's straight, but he played all these gay roles all the time. But they made

Ryan straight in High School 3. They were like, go with the composer. Oh, that's right. The playmaker. Like, I love that musical. We'll never get those again. We'll never get that era. It's so sad.

I have more mom questions. Okay, okay. I'm so fascinated. I love mom podcasts. They're so. Does anybody? I don't know if anybody does. I try to mom podcast.

No one cared. Okay. So you don't have a mom group? I don't have mom group. I want to be one. I need one. I need more friends. Yeah.

Why is that hard to find? Are all your kids like homeschooled or something? Well, they're not in school yet because they're only three. But we're not going to homeschool them. We're not going to do that. I am homeschooling. I had the most traumatic school experience. Tricia, no.

The teachers, the kids, the bullying, the violence. Private school. No. That is like $40,000 a year. But they can go make friends with Northwest at Sierra Canyon. Like, what are you talking about? Trisha, we're not thinking smart. Are you homeschooled?

Do you have trauma with homeschooling? I think homeschooled kids are so weird. No, they're so weird. You can't. When you can do pods and you can take them to socialize, I think they have to be. I just don't. They have to be social.

Well, the only way you can, the only person, time a person who's homeschooled isn't weird is if they're a child actor. Like, Miley, Selena, Demi, like you're getting socialized in other ways. That's all their trauma.

No, but then you can go to dance. Like, they go to dance. They go to tumbling. They go to karate. Like, they go to all their little classes. But they need to know the nuances of the world. Like, you know,

like, how are they going to deal with stuff if they're like not? Sorry, everyone needs to be a little bullied. Like, I'm sorry. It's that gentle parenting. And you're a millennial. Oh my God.

you make me sick. Bullying was the traumatic. Have you never been bullied? I'd take it. I grew up, girl, I went to an all white high school. I was one of three black people that went to my middle school and high school name.

Fair enough, yes. You can't, you cannot hurt my feelings. Wait, really? So you never hurt you as like a kid. You didn't go home crying or anything like that. I wasn't going to give people the satisfaction. Of course I'd go home and cry by myself.

Oh, I was never going to tell. No, but it's fine. It toughened me up and that's why I talk on the internet because I know this is all ridiculous. Like, people are going to judge you regardless. So who care? I guess so. I guess I just wanted to be in a bubble.

As I got older, I cared less. And like, people would, like, make fun of me for, like, what I was into growing up. Like, I'd be into pop culture. And all those people were boring. I don't talk to anything. Did they really? Like, what? No one was into anything I was into growing up.

Some people were, but, like, not really. And you wouldn't have wanted to be homeschooled. And you never would. No, I'm too social. And I'm only a child. I had to be socialized. Okay, you're social person. I'm very introverted.

So I'm like, I would love to go the rest of my life, never talking to someone again. but because of my kids, I don't want them to be like me. I'm like, okay, let me be social. So we do take them to, like, social events and, like, social kid play dates and stuff like that. But you need to put them in, like, yeah. No, not real school, though, never. Because I had, like, my teachers.

You don't want to deal with the, do you just not want to deal with, like, homework. I don't want to deal with the teachers, bullying or sexual hair harassing my kids. I had, like, literally people don't believe. But if you go to a private school, that's, like, you know, smaller classes.

No, even worse, because then it's, like, you know, they can become friends with, like... Rich kids have access to drugs and stuff like that. quickly to like, but they're going to do drugs one day. One day someone will give them a line. No, they won't. You have to be prepared for that day. No, I feel like never.

I feel like because of what I've been through, I can like tell them like this is the word. I think you're like, you can become like your parents or you like learn from your parents. And they can't read my whole book if they want. I'll be like read this whole book. This is what you're not going to be. Because I was like so. Yeah, I think it's.

I know what you mean. And you know what? You never know. I don't think there's ever a right choice. Right. Like I, my public school was so traumatic. I was like sexually harassed by all my teachers. Like a lot of them.

I would say five out of my 10 teachers. Illinois. Oh yeah, if you're from the Midwest. Yeah, Midwest. And you moved here like really young, right? I moved here around 17. I guess I just had turned 18 in May and I moved out here.

I moved out here on my 18th birthday. Yeah, and I like love L.A. now. But yeah, it's, you know, and I went to a small town. So you think small town's, I don't know, but there's a lot of violence in my school. And it was small. We were like in a country. Okay, we're like country farmers. Okay.

So that's a different experience than your kids are going to get. They're going to be city girls. Which could be also awful too, right? because it's like, and not to be all like political and not to be too serious because it's a fun podcast, but like, you know, obviously we have like a horrible like gun problem in our, in America. That's true. That's very true. It's not just city. Like obviously

you hear about it in the city, but like where I grew up there, a lot of people had hunting guns and stuff like that and people would bring those to school. And so it's just like, it's just, I don't know. I'd rather just be in a little bubble. It's kind of crazy too. Do you never tell you about that? Oh, I go, how would I, you know this? No, tell me. Maybe because I met. We met so many times and I'm like, okay.

I went to the Malibu Chili Cookoff. like, I want to say two years ago. Oh, love that. That's a thing. And, yeah, no, it's like a whole thing. I never heard of it. Okay. Northwest was there with her little friends and she was like fighting to get on the Tilta Whirl.

Oh, I love that. That's cute. Okay. And I was like, and her security was just like in the back. But I thought it was so funny. I'm like, Northless was just like, was like her parents or just friends?

No, she was with friends. But she had security. Like she had like one security guy. Oh, it's crazy. It was like no one. Only I knew she was there because, you know, pop culture girls are at least. Right, right.

But everyone else was leaving her alone. No one was like, oh, that's north. Like, yeah. Right. But I still feel like that's a good example in general. It's just like because of who she is. Like people just criticize her so much. Like the way her body is, the way she's dressed.

Like. And she's 13. She's just going through her face. That's what I'm saying. And I think it's like, ah, it's just like, I hate that. I hate it. I hate it too. Yeah.

So it's almost like. And it's, it's Kardashian slander. And people are very weirdly misogynistic about the Kardashians too. Yeah. So like, and I feel like it's because of like who her parents are and all this. What's I'm saying. I think it's like not, it's just like not fair as it is. And I guess if she goes to school, like, I mean, if she has security and stuff,

she's not getting, like, bully, but it's like because of who her parents is. I mean, don't you think people are going to say stuff. I don't know. But I also feel like it's a closer community than you think. I feel like Northwest is like, yeah, she's famous, but like other famous people go there. Like, you know, I feel like it's, like different. Like I feel like, I have a friend who grew up in West Hollywood and also in the valley. And she randomly will be like on, she'll be online.

She's like, oh, that person's famous. Now we went to high school with them. Like, I feel like it's not like that big. Oh, interesting. oh yeah, that's Trisha Pettis's daughter. Like, her mom's Trisha Padas. Like, you know, like, it's going to be like, you know. Because you know what happened with me in school,

and it's on such a different level because my mom was not on social media or anything. But if people, there was haters on my mom, right? Because, like, my mom, whatever. There was, like, haters and my mom. So because I went back to the hometown that she grew up in, if she went to school, people didn't like her, they're like, that's Lennapatus's daughter, like,

so I had a teacher that my mom knew. See, that's people who are bored in Illinois who have nothing else to do. But don't you think here, they're like, oh, we hate, like, there's a church of Paitous Hater, and that's my daughter's teacher. No, because celebrities are the thing where it's like, oh, I read what's happening in Us Weekly. Like, so sorry. I don't know.

I guess you right. Like, I hate what the internet's saying. People are a little bit nicer to you when you have a scandal because it's like, they see you in like real life doing your thing, like dropping your kid off and they're like, oh, it humanizes you. Yes and no, but then you look at Northwest. Obviously, they know Kani is obviously that's like a horrible thing. But then you know, Kim goes there. She smoothes it over. She's like, I'll build you a pavilion.

And like, and like, and, and, and, and, and, we don't have a pavilion money. humble. But maybe. The Patricia Petus podcasting studio. Well, we can definitely build a studio for them too. It's right. You know, you're right. And I think there is some time. We have like another year. So we go back and forth for sure. I am very traumatized. But maybe, maybe there's like a charter school. Maybe there's, I don't know. Yeah. She could be like the first pancake. And if it works, it works.

The first pancake. Yeah. You're like, you're the first daughter. Oh, to try it out. Yeah. She's the first pancake. So you like, you know, you flip it over. And then it's like in the other two. They're fine because you're like, oh, they're well done. I learned my mistake. I never heard that term before. That's why it's bad being an only child. It's like, oh, I was the first pancake for everything. How did you like being an only child? I loved it.

I really did. Like, and I still do. I just like, I mean, I have a lot of cousins, like a lot of them. My mom's like the ninth child out of nine brothers and sisters. So maybe that's why you love the public school so much or like pushing that because you didn't get to socialize with like your siblings. So you're just like. Oh, I socialize with my cousins. I would do all this stuff with them.

And also the great thing about them, I could tell them to go home. I'd be like, please leave my house. Oh, you would like your time then too. Oh, I never like sleepovers growing up. My mom would push me. She'd be like, do you want to sleep over at your cousin's house? And I'm like, no. Oh, that's so funny.

And she was like, no, why? Because they would want me to come over and they'd beg my mom. They'd be like, oh, can you come? And I'd be like, tell them no. Oh, wait, really? I just want to watch That's a Raven in Peace. Like I do. Where you're that's a Raven.

You should go on her podcast. Because you're doing podcast right now. You're doing like podcast rounds. You're going to one after this. I hope so. She's in South Africa doing Cheetah Girls for her. Oh my God. You're right.

Yeah. So she's busy. I was trying to do that because my agent represents her too. girl that's my girl. Oh that's right you're an Oscar's age okay Raven is more like my age so I was obsessed I had a Raven phase though Raven came out when I was like in second grade I remember it was same night as Kim possible but I was obsessed with Raven I was obsessed and then Hannah Montana came around and I was like oh that's the new queen for you so your Mount Rushmore of Disney is Raven Miley Hillary Duff wow um and oh who else I would say oh there's one more right you say

Kim possible, Christy Carlson Romano? I mean, but, you know, she's not Mount Rushmore. She's more like, she's more like, you know, like Yellowstone Park. Okay. She's up there somewhere. Yeah, she's up there somewhere. It's not on my Mount Rushmore. God, who's another Disney Queen?

I don't want to say Selena, because I didn't really like watch what this is the very really place, but I knew who's Selena Gomez was. Demi? She had a couple. No, not her. No, there's, oh, am I missing? Oh, like maybe Ashley Tisdust. You know what?

I'd say Zach Athron. Zach Affron could be up there. He just in high school musical, right? Yeah. He was like, yeah. Have you read that book Disney High? No. It's called Disney High, the rise and fall of the Disney Channel Tween Empire.

What happened? What's the book about? Basically, each chapter is about like the height of Disney Channel. And it's like, and it talks about like basically how that show came to be. It talks about the parents. It talks about the kids, how they got the role. And it's like really informative. And they talk about Zach Affront and Miley Cyrus.

They almost really didn't get their roles. Like Disney was not really checking for Miley's. How did they, how did Miley get? Because what was her? You know who was on here was Allie and A. And they were saying how they auditioned for Hannah Montana. I think it was AJ who said she auditioned for Hannah Montana. And I think they like maybe offered it to her.

And she said no. Yeah. They talk about that. Oh, interesting. But Miley was like they just didn't. The thing with Miley, I think she auditioned when she was super young. And then they auditioned all these other girls. And then six months went by.

And they were like, okay, well, Miley's older. And they just made her work for it. They're like, okay. Well, and then like technically they had Danielle Mone and her. It was between them two. And the guy who created. Which one's Dina Mone? She did.

She was in Victoria. She was the sister and Victoria's the one who can't say. She's like, Chicago. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Trita Vega. Yeah, yeah, okay, I know that from TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was between her and Miley's Irish.

You know, she does not, she can't, she auditioned for Roxy Hart in Chicago and they didn't give it to her. What? And it's like everyone, like, Ariana Maddox, like everybody can be Roxy Hart, but she auditions and they didn't give it. And Whitney, I thought Whitney was here too, yeah. I love Whitney. I do love Whitney so much.

She's going back to Broadway. She just teased yesterday. Good for her. And it looks like she's lip singing a song from Just In Time, so everyone thinks she's gonna go back into that show. Are you a Broadway person musicals? Um, no, I'm not. I fell asleep in Wicked part one and two.

The movies? Yeah, it's so long. I can't do it long time. Oh my. But I like watched it for the culture. I don't understand Wicked if I'm being really honest. I feel like there's no magic involved. What?

It's all magic. But no one knows how to use the magic. Alpha can't even use the magic, really. Well, Alphabet is the only one who can. That's why the wizard and her had that connection because the wizard obviously drank the little potion get her the match. She's like I knew that from the first movie

I was that gag to the people who never see the play. By the way also, I feel like LL, like what's her name? L, um, blah, not Alphabet, blinda. Oh, yeah. Glinda could have easily stood up on the proclamation and been like, girls, it's just a little green. It's just a little green. Can we please move on from this?

I'm the queen. I say we get over this because this is my sister. Matt, I would have been like, listen, Madam Morrible isn't she's scamming. Oz is scamming. I'm in charge. I got the bubble. Let, like, we're going to move on.

from this new laws everyone treat elvabo with some to respect and then like and then we could have really moved on like her walking with the scarecrow in the distance i'm like huh like i didn't like that ending no i'm like where did they go so cute they just went off into their own well the movie was a little like it was giving a little like star words like you're in a different galaxy all of a sudden they in the play they kind of just walk off to the sunset it's kind of cute but yeah i don't understand that to do what to die to hide where where are they going what are they doing where is she now outside of us my friend has a video on tic-tok of her mom being like, her mom is like, Elba, Elba, Elba, Elba, where, where is she now?

I'm so sad. I'm such a stand. Wicked if I stand one thing, I stand wicked and I love it so much. I love the promise to her. And I get what people do. Like, it's fun. And Ariana Grande was gagging that role. Like, she was great.

So did you like, do you think they should want any Oscars? Do you think that they were like? Not for part two. Part one, yeah, probably. I think part two is, we both agree that part two was the best. We thought that was the better one. I was so sad. Part two had more like, umf to it.

Yeah, like emotion. And I thought the actors were so good. Everyone was so, I was like, what the hell? What happened? The songs were so good. But what happened on the set of wicked? Something's, there's good. You know what, Ariana Grande needs to do that trend being like my documentary of what happened.

Do you think you've ever, like, been around a killer? Yeah. Did you date one? Yeah. I have a story time on it on YouTube. Yeah, it actually didn't make my book. I actually talked about one time when I went on date with someone. Well, that's for the second book, obviously.

So when they cut things, like it's like very much like, well, if it doesn't move the story along, then we're going to just like cut it. I mean, I had say obviously what got cut to. But it was like, yeah. Are you with like Simon & Schuster or something? Harper Collins? I'm with, which they're really great.

Honestly, they were the first people I met with and I was like done and done. They were like my favorite. They were wonderful. They're so great. So I love them. I love that. They did a problem.

I actually do what to read. Do you know Sheena She? Yeah, of course I know Sheena She's from. She's from Bravo. She's on Vannibal. She's on The Val. Well, no, she's on the Valley. They didn't ask her report of the Valley.

She's not on it. She had a book come out and they did her book. And when I signed with them. like, we just did Sheena Shea's book, and I like the cover. She definitely does not like me. Wait, really? Oh, she totally doesn't. Wait, why?

Do you know? What would you have you said about her? I know for a time. Have you talked about her online? Because you are? One time I did a Shea Shay hot topics that were bothering me. Wait, all about her? Yeah, because she was in the news and she was being ridiculous.

I just know, I just know. Oh, well, shout out Shina Shay. But like, whatever. Do you like her? I don't mind her. She's perfectly cringe. Okay. Yeah.

You like a millennial cringe, though. You don't mind a little cringe. If it's done well. Yes. Yeah. Okay. You're like my millennial. I'm very millennial cringe.

I'm trying to embrace the cringe these days. I was thinking, I was like, how did I ever said anything bad about Turgitas? I don't think I... I wouldn't hold against you. I say something bad about everybody, so I'm never like, you said something bad about me. Like, how dare you?

Like, I probably said, not you, but about everybody. Well, I kind of like figured out who you were through, like, Oscar and stuff. Like, I knew who you were before that. Oh, I love that. After I, like, I met you a few times. I was like, oh, you know what? She's really nice in person.

So, like, sad she's going through all that. I love it. That's so cool. I always love how people find out about me because I always do want to know and it's so interesting that it's through Oscar because Oscar, that's how we met right? He was like, he reached out from Access

and I was like, why, this is so cool and he always kind of like champion for me and I was like, I've always liked him. Every job I've ever had. I'm like, I need to hire Oscar. Like he's so smart. And he's so good at Red Carpet reporting. They need to use him more.

He's so good. Researching everything, questions. Like he is the best. So then when I met you, because I came with the heartbreak to her shirt. I was like, did you come to the show? And you're like, did you just but I was like, you know what?

I'm just going to wear it anyway. This is vintage. I wear it to the gym a lot. I agree. But I washed it and I was like, I'm going to. No, it looks so nice. It looks like actually like really new because I thought the, this would be coming off right now because it's so cheap the graphic and stuff like that. I went to none of the tour dates.

No one did. Even my L.A. show, I had like literally, I'm not just saying this, whatever, to be humble. It was true. Globe Theater. It had like 50 people there. And it's L.A. Right. So you think everyone come.

But like I was best friends with like Shane at the time. He didn't come. Like no one came to my show. shout out Gigi. Gigi Gorgeous always came to my shows. But no one came to it. Oh, I forgot about her. I love Gigi.

She's like my everything. She, I think she auditioned for real housewives. And I think, I think another YouTuber, Rosanna Pancino just said she auditioned for real housewives too, that it was between her and who's the designer?

Rachel Zoh, is she on Housewives? Oh, she is on Housewives? Yeah. And she's kind of gag on Housewives. Is she, okay, because I don't even know. She doesn't get into the drama, but she has a really good storyline. She's like going through a divorce.

Her ex-husband's being, like, so annoying. and he is like dating this girl and her kids film and her kids like love her you can tell and they have the most ridiculous names. Do you think everyone has to be a little with the names? Oh God, no, it's escaping me. I mean, obviously I have Aquaman and Elvis and Malibu Barbies.

Oh, I love that. They're real names, right? They're their real names. People think their alias. Is there on their birth certificates? Social Security cards, all of it. Honestly, though, that's, no one's going to steal their identity.

Yeah. And you're thinking smarter. Are you Aquaman? Yes, I am Aquaman. Yeah, absolutely. Is there anybody on there that is not problematic? Is there anyone that's just like a nice good person that everyone loves?

I feel to be on Housewives, you have to be a bit nefarious. Yeah, you have to be. I love the nefarious word. That's your word of the day, and I love it. I didn't know what it meant, but now from context clues, I know what it means. You're a little bit diabolical to be on housewives. Okay, so Orange County, they're all diabolical too? Absolutely.

Okay. But I'm friends with one of the Orange County girls. Which one? Tamara Judge. Okay, she's like an OG, right? She's been on her while. Yeah, she was on it for, she's still on it. Oh, wow.

She took like a two-season break, and then she came back back in like for season 17 now it's season 20. Vicki's been the longest, right? She just came back. Yeah. What about like the older, like the, like, the, like, Bethany Frankl's of it all and stuff like that? Oh, Bethany Frank calls me blocked on TikTok. I find her so annoying. Why? She has me. Okay, you know what's so funny? I love her. I love her. She blocks everybody, though. Like, the last thing I ever said, I think, is that like, we as a society have to stop listening to anything Bethany Frankl says, and then she blocked me.

And the only reason I found out because I was working at people at the time. And I would do, they had this, like, YouTube series called, like, people in 10, I think, or something like that. People and what? It was called like People in 10. Okay. So Bethany was talking a lot about Taylor and Travis. This is when Taylor and Travis were like in the midst of like the beginning of their relationship and they were everywhere. And they're like, can you go and see what Bethany Frankel was saying about Taylor and Travis? I was like, sure. So I go on my account and I'm like, wait, did she delete her TikTok? And then I was like, huh, interesting, weird. And then I go on people's account and I was like,

I was like, Kim. I was like, oh, she blocked me. What did you say about her? Like, why did she block you? Probably because what I said, I was like, we have to stop listening to anything Bethany Frankles to say. But also, but everyone was talking to Bethany Frankel. Like, she was being really, like, a menace to society and really, like, a nuisance. Also, by the way, I'm not one of those people who started hating Bethany Frankel two years ago. I never liked Bethany Frankel on Housewives. Why did people start hating her two years ago?

What was the chance? Because she was on TikTok and she started this whole, like, reality reckoning thing as if she never benefited from any of it. So it was just like, she's just a hypocrite. Yeah. She's a big hypocrite. She thinks she thinks she's the smartest person in the room. Oh, my God. And she's not successful by any.

needs obviously she has money, she does this, whatever, but she's just so desperado, and it's, like, so, like, she's just like, oh, my God, and she's, it's, it's, she's an annoying no-it-all that thing she knows everything about everything, and she says a bunch of buzzwords that make, she says, one time she was saying this buzzword, she's like, it's a zero-sum game, and if you have a game that's zero-sum, then you can't sum out the game, she talks like that, and it's like, oh my God, and it's like, oh, my God, I'm like, oh, you know, what the one, the latest hot topic that kind of got me with her, was the, because I actually, I like her, she was nice to me at unwell, She seemed like fine as the shoe gate,

the one where she didn't like tag the shoe. Oh, and she'd be doing that. But she was like, I was going to, the shoe sold out, so she's like, I found a dupe. So I feel like, I don't know, I'm not a Bethany Franklin Defender, but maybe she gets a little bit of. But everyone's going to be nice to you

because you're more famous than that. That's not true. Not everyone's nice to me. Wait. Especially someone like, who's been nice to, um. It's because you're more famous than them. You have your own.

And the housewives? You are more famous than most of them. Erica Jane was getting swarmed at that CA Pride Party. I was not getting swam. warm the way she was. They were all over her. But if you were to, but everyone, you're way more global than them. Okay, I'm not, let's not think Erica Jane. Let's think like. Yeah, Eric Jane's huge. I want to think of like, okay, if Whitney Rose from Real Housewives of Salt

Lake City walks into a room and you walk into a room, you're way more famous than Whitney Rose. I didn't even know there was a real housewives of Salt Lake City. Oh my God. They're like, you would like that show. Are they competing against the Mormon wives? That show is bananas. Wait, really? And it came up before Mormon wives. I never hear anyone talk about it. their BravoCon panel was packed. Oh, okay. I need to get on this side. I do need to get on the side of it.

The white girls love Salt Lake City. Yeah, no, they do. Lisa Barlow, you would love her. I'm friends with her. She's so funny. Lisa Parlo, okay. She's like the queen on there and all the girls hate her. She's kind of like the Taylor, not the Taylor Friggy Paul in the domestic abuse way, but like in the sense that all the girls are jealous of her and everything she has going on. And she has music. She just came out with a song. It's called Baby Gorgeous. And it's like, you're just baby gorgeous.

But she's trying to be elevated. Who do you think is the best housewife song? honestly I tap my toe when I hear Don't be tardy for the party Oh you know Louis has some good music money Yeah Kim's old yak You would be friends with her if you like Yeah I liked her she was another one that was like for clothes house And then not yeah

Yeah actually I had money and then actually I was like I kind of love the whole story line of all them You know it's like I loved her wigs I loved everything I liked the is a Countess Luann Oh I'm like money can't buy you class yeah and then she has sheke say Levy Yeah I feel like she's kind of camp yeah she is camp she is camp I need to go I guess if there's ever a housewife's music tour, I could go on there if I become a housewife. No, they would make you do that. You could perform at watch what happens live.

Andy Cohen, let me be a guest next time. I was a bartender. And I was very appreciative of a bartender, but I would love to be a guest. Although I'm not on Bravo, so. You're going to be. I'm manifesting. I would love it.

Yeah. And then you're going to do traitors, and you're going to do the stars, then you're going to do. Then you'll be on there as a guest. Then you'll be the host of Love Island. I would love. Oh my gosh.

If our anatomatics ever leaves, I would love to do that. What's a hot topic right now that you're like obsessed with? Like you're like the hottest topic. Oh my God. Obsessed with a hot topic I'm obsessed with right now? Is there anything like recent that you're like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with this? Obviously, what was the Love Island mess last week? Kenny?

Oh, wait. Okay. I wanted you to explain that to me because I, so I know. Oh, did I say it? Yeah, you're the one who's like, what's going on with you day and Kenny. And I was like, and I did kind of know. I didn't know because I, first of all, I don't know. That's why I always need help explain these things.

Well, I know kind of what happened. So basically they broke up like a year or I guess like eight months ago at this point because. He went on a podcast. I saw her. She was like in this, like, it looked like a rose where it was like a sparkly, like window behind her. She was like had like these sparklights. And she was like, I've never been abusive.

And then I just saw all my favorite creators, uh, reposting. Like, they were all like reposting it and support. Like we know, whatever. And then I saw him on a podcast being like, she was abusive or something. And she, I've never been abusive. Like, what is he talking about? That's all I saw. I guess he said some racist stuff to her in the relationship.

Or she looked through his phone and found all the stuff saying that he doesn't really like her and doesn't like that she's black, allegedly, allegedly. And so I guess he went on this podcast and basically told a bunch of lies and then all the people that were on Love Island with them who are on her side were like this is crap, this isn't true, like you're a liar.

And then he said like, and then when we went to Keynes and he was talking about Cannes. Also me though, I would never, I don't know how you pronounce it. Cairns, Keynes. Is it Claude? What is it?

I thought of it. I actually, I think it's Can. It's can. But it's so funny because Andy Cohen even commented like, like, Keynes. Andy Cohen commented on TikTok? Yeah, on Instagram being like,

he could not say it would like when we went to Keynes. That's so funny. It's just raising canes on the street. No, but I guess I'm obsessed with how people think Brinidad is, like, better than Nicolandria and it's like, whatever. Brindy's the new winner?

Yeah, they won, and I'm not, I think they're grifters, but it's fine. Oh my God, wait, wait, I thought you, like, loved Love Island. I thought you were, like, all obsessed with all them. I didn't love this, I didn't like the talent this season. Really? I felt like they were pretty good. Who's the one that does the clam slam that was on Collar Daddy?

Oh, Kenzie, she was cool. She was cool. She should come here. You guys could do that together. I would love. I guess I need to watch it. I never got into it. I really need to get into it.

But you have like a real life. You've got like three kids. Well, that's out of you. You're busy. You're on every event. Where were you last night? Oh, I went to. It was like a soccer game for the We Are Angel City team.

It was like a pride game for this like female soccer team. Did you get paid? No, I was invited as a plus one. You're always like partnering, hashtaging. I'm like, damn, you really are everywhere. I just started like really, really getting paid like a few months ago too. Congratulations. That's all like really huge stuff, all the stuff you're doing.

How many events a week do you go to? It's different every week. This past week was a lot. I probably went to like four events this week. I know. I was seeing you because you had your birthday. Then all of a sudden you were just like at another event, another event.

And I was in Brazil before my birthday. What were you there for? I went to a wedding. It was like honestly the most expensive wedding. You go to so many weddings. I've only been to one wedding my entire life. How many weddings have you been to in the past year? Because you just mentioned you saw, who did you see?

Who did you see? Oh, who did I see? Oh, who did I see? That was Morgan Adams. That's right. That wedding was like two Septembers ago. How many weddings have you been to your entire life, you think? at this point I've probably been to like 11

I've been to one I've been to Gigi Gordas's wedding that's it that's it why do you have a lot of friends no but again that's I'm you do have a lot of friends I feel like you do have a lot of you you I don't have any you're gonna make mom friends okay manifest that for me I'm gonna get you in Ashley Tissel's mom group no not that one we want to be in Hillary Duff one sorry sorry sorry yes that's not what I meant we need to get in Hillary Duffin you can do Hillary Duff ticket they would never let me though they're scared of like Ashley Tizzo writing an article me having a podcast every week they're gonna be

like, hell no, not this person in it, because you know me, I'd be done. Isn't it so annoying how celebrities are so cautious now? Yeah, you have to be, though. It's like Wendy said that, too. Wendy Williams would always be like, you can't be friends with the people you talk about. You know what I mean? The hot topics because it's like... And I get that, yeah.

And I get that too. I feel like there's a reason and that's fine because I, you know me. And I will too. I will always hint. I'll be like, I can't really talk about butt. And I'm always like insinuating. So I feel like I would be the actual worst friend. I know.

Because it's your whole thing. And then it's like, oh, I don't know. And I always share what we did for the weekend and stuff like that. So I'd always be like, so I was with this group, but I can't say who. And then I'd be like, and say, okay, this person who was on TV. Like, I would just be like, looking at you just reminds me of every single YouTube star that, like, you surpassed. I don't know if that's true. I'm kind of under the brain on.

You and guys are like, you guys are like in your own. Like you guys are the upper echelon of people. Stop it. I mean, that's really nice to say, but. Tana, Mr. Beast. Because who talks about PewDie Pye. Yeah, he kind of retired. He kind of, like, retired and went under the radar himself.

Because David Dope is kind of like. Yeah. He's still having those parties, so David Doper is still having a David Doper party and getting sponsored. And, you know, I guess good for him, I suppose. He's on Snapchat. Are you on Snapchat? No, I'm grown. They ban me.

Snapchat has banned me. They do not let me make another account. Well, I heard what Snapchat is where the money is. I don't know if it's still like that. I think it was like that. Maybe it is. I know when people would come on this podcast years ago, like the Leo Skeppies of it all and they'd be like, I make like six figures or whatever.

I don't know. They make a lot of money, not Leo specifically, but other people. They'd be like, I make six figures a month off Snapchat. And it's just like, damn, like I really should get on there. And then I realized I was banned. But then I realized I think David has like an end with the Snapchat people. So I was going to be white. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Oh, so you think he's like blackballing you from Snapchat? Maybe also, like you said, I don't really care. I'm like a Snapchat. I don't really care. I have a podcast and a book and like I have everything else. You're like, I'm better than you. No.

No, and I think you are. Not me. Not me. No, I like to be under the radar for as much as possible. You know what I mean? I just like to just like to exist in the world. Walk me through your normal day. I mean, if it's the podcast day, it's like glam podcast.

Chris Appleton comes over here and then he hightails it out before your guest comes. Chris Appleton. And you didn't save him for me. That should have been in my rider. Forget a car. Where's Chris Appleton? Do you like Chris Appleton? Yeah, I see him at the gym.

Oh, maybe that's why the Kardashians don't invite me. It's not that I don't like him. I am friends with Lucas Gage. So maybe they're like, oh, yeah. That blood. Maybe they're like, no. You know what? I don't know Chris Appleton.

Maybe I should have been apologizing. He has a book to promote. You should get him on. I know his publicist. What's his book called? I don't know. Oh, wasn't it something pun? It was like something like a pun like your roots don't define you.

Oh. I think that's what it is. Is that a pun? Or is that just like a tumbler quote? Well, like a pun because he does hair. I don't know like a little. Oh, your roots don't. Oh.

Right. It's a pun. It's something else. I don't know what that's called. Yeah, that's a pun. Your roots don't define you. Yeah, I guess a little bit. But okay, so sorry to Chris Appleton.

Because I think I said one time too that he didn't have a good reputation to it with his assistance. But I don't know. I don't know. no don't come from me. Chris Appleton, I love you. If I can be with the Kardashians, like, I love you. So Chris Appleton comes over. He does your glam and then what? Tony, shout out Tony Winterhands. He does my glam. And then I do some content. You came right on time. So usually like in the morning, I'll like get some content done. Because like Mondays, we do the podcast. So like my mom or like we have help with the kids. And so

then we can get all the stuff done. But Tuesdays and Wednesdays are for the kids. So we usually do like kids activities. They have dance class. They have tumbling. They're on summer break right now. So it's a little different. So we can go do like an activity with them. And then Fridays are usually like a day that I can go do stuff. so I'm recording my audiobook on Fridays where I have like stuff that I got to do which what happened last weekend was is I got canceled on for this thing

so I had the whole day to myself I didn't know what to do I was like oh my god I had like child care all this stuff arranged I'm like what do I do with my day now because I go to a spa? Well I had to be productive if I was at a spa I would feel like really bad about myself

although that's what my husband said she was like you could just take a day off and rest I was like no I hate to do that go to a shopping spree go to the mall I do not need more stuff when you went to the mall could you go to the mall without being bombarded yeah because no one's there

it's like dead it's dead I was I was I able to lunch there actually. Yeah, because my friend. Where we're at? Okay, that's so random. Love that. Well, we went there because my friend, so she grew up in West Hollywood,

but she also grew up in the, her dad lived in the valley, her mom lived in West Hollywood. So she was like, I'm going to show you like my valley stomping ground. And then she took, so she grew up down the street from Dylan and Cole Spouse and she'd be like, this is where I saw their dog and my dad saved their dog. And he like, help them. And she was like, yeah. And then she said she met one of her friends, like, because they were in this

Dylan and Cole Spouse like group, like message board, you know, you know, she's a little than me, like, you know, message board, whatever. Are they older than you, the most twins? They're, like, 33 maybe. And I'm 31. Well, whatever. Like, you know, internet, like, my space. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel you. Yeah, like, whatever. I grew up in that weird, like, era. See, I was young enough to have an aim, like, old enough to, sorry, young enough to have a TikTok, old enough to have had an aim. Did you have an aim? What was your aim name? Fresh, Fri, Fri, Ferech with three H's, Frii X.

Oh, I love that. Yeah. Mine was Blonde Sundel 4MJ, and that's why my YouTube channel is Blondeau 4MJ, because it was my aim. Blondeau what? Blonde, B-L-N-D with no, no, what are those consonants, vowels. Vowels. Yeah, vows.

There's no vowels. So it says BL&D. You want to do homeschool. Well, I would have a teacher come. I know, trust me. That's why when you said you went to college, I'm always like, damn, I'm already intimidated. Like, I'm already intimidated. But people think it's blind sundial because there's no vowels.

And so it's blonde sundial for M-J. And that was my AIM username, and then it just became my YouTube, and still my YouTube name. And everyone's like, what does this mean? I'm like, I don't know. It's just like a name that I had. Because you had some crazy thing because everyone had so many, you know, user names. I had a lot of, but that AIM account was like special to me. Did you ever keep the name?

Did you keep the email associated with it? Yeah, it's, I don't want to say what I use it for, but yeah. Now I want to know. What do you use it for? Okay. So you've had it for a while because I kept my original hot mail that's associated with it too. I don't even know how to change. It's just connected to like things.

Everything. I don't know. That's why I say about one numbers. Everything I use, like, Apple, but, like, not, like, if I get email, like, not professional emails or anything like that. You direct that now to your agent, professional emails. Oh, yeah, I do. But then, like, there's people, you know, I get, like, Dick's clearance sales spam emails to my actual email that I use. Yeah, I do the same thing.

I know. My email, too, I, like, never. It just has so much spam. Because I have a hot mail. My original one is hot mail, so that's so much spam. Oh, vintage. That's what I'm saying. I was associated with my aim, so I always kept.

The same thing with phones. I always help people, like, their phone numbers to always keep it because you always need that code. I have the same one. Yeah, you always have to. I change mine, but I always keep that one phone with my old phone number because just in case, you know. I've had the same phone number since, like, eighth grade. I can't change it.

You never change it. You never get, like, harassed. It's an easy number. So even if I did, I block them. I had this crazy guy who was calling me, though, like a couple weeks ago off no caller ID. And I literally was like, I'm next to a cop. And he would call me in the middle of the night being like, hey, baby, how are? And I'm like, who is this?

And do you think it was for you or you think it was mixing someone up? Like, he thought of someone else he was calling. I was with my friend one time and she's like, it sounds like he relapsed and he's like on drugs or something like that and he thinks for someone else. So then I was like, can you not, I'm next to a cop and he just hung up and he just, he doesn't call him be since.

Oh my God. It's very much like those TikTok trends where it's like, okay, use this if you're in the back of an Uber. And it's like, hey, baby, like I just got out of prison. Like I'm going to go and pick you up or something like that. So that way the Uber driver's like scared of like whatever conversation you're having. I'm a waymo girl now. Really?

Unless like, you know what brand says we have an Uber code for you. But like, because it's a black so it's like, you know, less disarming. Like, what are you going to do to me, right? Oh my God. Wait. Is that a thing? So, like, if there's an Uber black, it's like they're... Well, they give you like, um, like a voucher and then like I get in an Uber,

but Uber blacks are more like sophisticated. Like you get in, there's water and then like, you know, you can tell them to talk to you or not. They could still poison that water. They could still put some stuff in the water. Oh, well, I never drink the water, but the water's just there, you know, to make you feel comfortable. Like, why would I drink their...

I'm not drinking their water. I don't know where it came from. I know. extremely. You got on the freeway with the Waymo. Once, yes, with my friend. It was at night, which was crazy. I haven't done it since, though. But the ones I've gotten in alone, just like mean roads.

Oh my gosh. But I love it. But the thing what I don't like, on my street, I live on this really big hill. It won't go up the hill. You have to meet them at the bottom of the hills. So that's kind of what's in a way. And it doesn't go up. Yeah. And it's like, if you live in, like, Laurel Canyon, it won't come to, like, those, like, hillside homes or stuff. You have to, like, meet them somewhere. Oh, so you have to be like, yeah.

If you're going somewhere within the city, it'll drop you off in front of it. We don't have them out here. We don't have Waymos out here. You don't know. You never use the app? Well, I haven't seen them. Like, when we were in Santa Monica at Benihana,

we saw a bunch of Waymos. Oh, okay. Because you had a spinner. Yeah. And we don't have a spinner here. So I was like, it is crazy. It's such a wild thing. But it's like a cute little jaguar.

You can play your own music. So like, they have like this weird, like, soliloquy that plays, but you can like connect it, change it. And you can play like whatever song. So one time my friend was like, I never went in a Waymo before. And I was like, let's do it. And we played like Guna all the way from, like, West Hollywood

to Santa Monica. No way. That sounds so scary. Yeah. And you can like blast it. And it's just like a vibe. Like, and I film TikTok's in there because it's like, well, who's watching me? Probably somebody.

Are you doing one in Waymo? Yeah. I have a couple I've done in Waymo. So you're like, hot topics that are bothering me. And you're like, you're like, you're like, yeah, yeah. I totally got it. I was bitching about Kyle Richards and Rojas of Beverly Hills in a Waymo one time. I was in Oz.

What's your beef with Kyle Richards? this second time you brought her up. Oh, I don't have beef with her. I just feel like, so she, okay, here's the thing with Kyle Richard. So she is, so she separated from her husband of like 27 years, Mauricio. There's always been, like, rumors that he, like,

cheated or whatever, but like they were- He's gay, right? No, no. Oh, I thought he was- He's not gay. He's with every girl on the planet, honey. Oh, really? Okay.

But she was seeing this, while it's up in the air, she was having this kind of relationship with Morgan Wade that she has, like, she has alluded to that it was, like, a relationship. I think she's afraid of coming out as lesbian, but she's not, I don't think she's lesbian. I feel like this woman.

I thought she was by. Kyle Richards. Well, she never really said she was by. She just said, like, me and my daughter's had to talk about this and like, but she never really said anything. She never says anything about her real life and what's going on. The thing is she would flaunt Morgan,

and I think to make her ex-husband jealous. And then the next season came along and people would ask her, like, what's going on with Morgan? She's like, out of respect for Morgan. I'm not going to talk about it. Who's Morgan? Morgan Wade is like this defunct country star who everybody knows now because only because she's with Kyle Richards.

And now Morgan's like, well, I don't want to be associated with their show. but it's like, but no one would know you if you weren't with Kyle Richards. Oh, I see, I see. So they try to like, okay, but yeah. But Kyle's like, but for her identity. And it's like, but you already had her out there. Yeah.

And also it's like, and everybody knows. And they're paparazzi together. She goes to her shows. Like, and I think like, so I don't know, I just feel like Morgan Wade came into her life at the right time. So I don't know, beef with Kyle Richards. I'm sure she's a nice, lovely woman. Yeah.

I've interviewed her a couple times. She probably doesn't, she probably remembers me as much as you do. Not. Literally. For the be fair. We didn't really. You were there. Okay.

Yeah, anyway, I have no beef with Kyle Richards. I just want her to like, she just doesn't talk about her life for what's really going on in her marriage. So it's like weird. So you're just like together's more. But she's like, you know, OG darling. Like everybody loves her. Yeah, we said the same hairstylist. And you always said she was really nice.

I don't know anything about her, but. Yeah, I'm sure she's so nice. She seems. And it's Parasolence mom's on it too, right? She's. Kathy, yes. We love Kathy. Kathy's one of the cooks that was talking about.

Oh, she's a coo. She's a coo. She's a cooke. So Sutton's a cook. Jennifer Tilly's a cook and Kathy's a cooke and I like Satin and I like Kathy and I like We have too many cooks. Too too many cooks in the kitchen.

Yeah. We need more glam dolls. She's also a RV spokesperson. I always see her do like brand deals with Arbys. Oh yeah. So does Lisa Barlow. Oh, I love that. Am I spitting on you everywhere?

I just realized. No, not at all. Not at all. I wouldn't even know. But anyways, it's fine if you do because it's very Broadway. Well, you have toddlers. You have three, two and one.

I'm getting spit on all the time but I didn't even notice at all. No, I did it. I love Arby's. I do a lot of brand deals with Arby's. And then I went and did like a little like meet and greet with Arby, not meet and group, but like I did like a little speaking engagement at the Arby's thing. And they were talking about how much they love Kathy Hilton and Paris Hilton and how like naturally

integrated they like love Arby's because Arbys gets a lot of slander. I know. I like Arbys. I do too. And TikTok there's that trend. Again, TikTok trends that need to die. There's a trend going around where they're like in the office and they'll be like, oh like the client is going to buy us lunch.

Like what do you want? Like where are we getting? And they're like Arby's like no, no, thank you. Like they'll say no to free lunch. I was like, it's Arby's is so good, so annoying. But I love like. The only fast food place I don't like is Carl's Jr. Interesting.

They just sponsor David Dobricks party. Maybe. No, I agree with you, not to be a Carl's Jr. I used to like it. Back in the day, used to have starred chicken nuggets. And now it's just like not as good. They have good French toastics, but that's about it. I feel like their menu is just really random.

It's random. Like Arby's has their like, it's like chicken. Yes. The beefs, their meats, they have the meats. They have the roast meat sandwich. Right. And McDonald's has, like, Like, you know, they're like, oh, the fries.

I love McDonald's fries. McDonald's fries, I think, are the best fries. I think lots of all sticks are the best at Arby's. Buffalo Wild Wings has a really good, like, wellness games. Oh, my Buffalo Wild Wings is where I'd go after, like, football games. Like, we'd, like, all eat there. What did you do in high school? What do you mean, like sports?

Yeah, did you sports? Did you play? I ran track. I was bad at everything else. You ran track? Are you still good at it? Like, did a track meet? Like, would you be able to...

Dude, I wasn't even good with it. See, so one of three black kids at the school, like, I was good for that standard, But then I would verse other schools, I'm like, ooh, I am not, I'm not Shikari. So, what is track? It's like running or is it the... Oh, well, so track is like, it's a bunch of different events. So, like, you could be long distance. You could do hurdles.

Like shot put. Yeah, you could do that. But I did, like, sprinting. I didn't do hurdles. I just did sprint. So I do like a 100 meter sprint, 200. Are you fast? I was then and I, like, tried then.

I want to do a little, we want to do a little track meat. And I, because I never was good in school. But now that I'm, like, a runner, I would love to try and run again. I used to, like, not even do the mile. I love running and it's like my new favorite thing and I would love to do a little like sprint. That would be kind of fun. We should do a video where like who's faster.

Do you go running? First of all, anyone's faster than me. A turtle's faster than me right now, but are you really fast? Because that would be fun. I don't think of as fast as I used to be, but like I can run for sure. Where do you go?

Like, where do you go running? On the treadmill at Equinox. Oh, I'll see there. I have an eminent equinox too. You are? Yes, I do my Pilates as Equinox. Yeah. Oh, I do my polis at Equinox too.

Oh my gosh, what class do you go to? You don't want to talk to yourself. I do Pilates. I'm there Friday at 9 a.m. I do Pilates Fusion or Pilates Matt. You know what? I was in my Pilates class on Friday. And not everyone showed up to this girl's class. And she's like, oh, wait, all the advanced people are here. We can make this harder.

And I was like, me. Are you an advanced person? Are you, like, standing on the machines? I can't stand yet on the machine. It's all mad at Equinox. Oh, ours is a reformer. We really? Yeah, we have a reformers.

Yeah, do you have one where you can go to any of them? I only belong to all of them because West Hollywood is flagship. And they make you join all of them. because West Hollywood's a flagship. That's like the marketing ploy. It's like honestly like, I'm so capitalist. Oh my God. That is kind of crazy.

But at least you can go to any of them now if you're traveling. I know that's, well, no, only the ones in L.A. Oh, so you can't go to like Newark or something. No. Are you traveling a lot? Oh, yeah. I'm on the plane. I'm always late to my flight.

Always. You miss a flight? Nope. You've always made it. No, I've been flying like for years. Like I used to, my aunt lives in London. A lot of my family members live in London, actually. Love London.

And so during the summers, for the full summer, I would go to London for like three months. So, like, I used to fly alone. Like, before 9-11, the parents used to be able to go. You would be with a bunch of kids and you would have an escort. And, like, you would board the plane first and then, like, everyone else would, like, deplane. And then you would, like, deplane last or, like, whoever. So before 9-11, I remember I would always cry before I left. And literally, I was on the plane.

My mom was like, I'll be right back. And then it never came back. But, like, were you not traumatized from that? Oh, I'd be so traumatized. I kind of knew she wasn't coming back. I just knew. I was like, you're not going to ride on this plane with me like eight hours. Being right back's crazy.

That's like, I think that, okay, I had trauma too. My dad would say that to me before he would like leave and I wouldn't see him for like six months. So I have trauma. So anytime I leave now my kids like will be really sad and cry if I have to go on a plane. But now I just have to tell them because like that was like the most traumatic thing is like I'll be right back. And then I wouldn't see him for a year. And I'm like, where's daddy? Like it's like so sad.

Oh, a year? Okay. Yeah. So she only really did. I think she did it because she knew that would get me to shut up. And then once I got there, she knew, like, it's going to be fine. I didn't know trauma. That's good.

I had trauma. So I've had time to my kids. I'm like, okay, mommy's going on a plane and I'll be crying. But I'm like, but I'm coming right back. Well, that's annoying because when I travel with my parents, like, they try to tell me what to do you. And I'm like, shut up. Like, I know how to work in airport. You're like, you put me on this alone.

Yeah. Like, I know how to get through here. Like, I am paying attention. Like, don't worry. Are you close with them now? Yeah, I've always been close with them. Yeah. Okay, so only child.

So you're just like, okay, you're best friends with your parents, which I think is kind of cute. Yeah, I mean, we're, you know, we have a vibe. I love a one and done. I think for so long the stigma was like, you can't just have one kid. Like they have to have a sibling. So it's like you feel pressured out like a second kid. But TikTok is very. I'm on mom talk where it's very like one and done.

One is chic. Like have one kid. One is chic, I will say. That's very cool. Because you can, yeah, you kind of can like travel the world and just do a bunch of stuff. I don't know if I'd have one myself. I'd probably just have two and that's it. Oh, that's interesting.

Wait, why? Because, like, as an only child, you're close with your family. You got, like, all these opportunities. Um, I think, like, one is just, like, you have a buddy. Like, I don't know. I feel like, even though it worked for me, like, I don't know if I'd want to, I feel like it's a lot to entertain an only child. Okay.

That's the thing. Did you wish you had a sibling? No. When I was younger, like, first, when I was, like, four, five, six, maybe, but not really. But as I got older, I was like, no. Because I'm my cousins would tell me all the things they have to do. They're like, we have to do chores. We have to do this and know.

Yeah. And the things they don't get. And I'm like, oh. Sharing. Are you a good share? I've gotten better about that over the years. Okay. I've originally not.

I've run. I'm still, you know what? When I love you, I love you. I will share everything with you. But when you expect me to share, I'm like, I don't have to do that. I'm like such a share. Yeah, I'm just like, we're so angry to like share that. I'm just like, take it.

Like if you're here and you're like, I want this, I'm like, take it so much. Like, you want that take it. Yeah, I'm such in a mood. But like when you expect something for me, I'm like, well, I don't really have to do it. I hate when someone tells me what I do. I'm like, I actually don't have to do it. And people, you know what's so funny, people feel indebted to that. Like, even in real life, they're like, well, I have to

do this because they, I'm like, I was like, you don't have to do anything. And I always tell my friends, I'm like, you don't have to do that. Like, you don't got to do it. I love that attitude. And that's like, you know, I actually don't have to do that. I don't do anything you say. That's so funny. So you didn't want a sibling, but for, as a parent, you would be like, I need someone to entertain. Yeah, I don't think I have the patient.

My patience is not good. That's so interesting. I will say, I will say that part is kind of cool. is like they kind of just play with each other and you're kind of like, oh, this is kind of nice. Yeah, I needed a lot of attention. I was like, I was always like, I'm bored, I'm mad. And were your parents always entertaining you?

Yeah, at first, but then I found ways to entertain myself. And when I was growing up, I lived in this neighborhood where all these kids, we all lived on the same street. So like, I would like run home, change out of my uniform, go play with them. Did you go to private school? Why were we in a uniform? I went to a Catholic school for a while.

Yeah. Oh, are you still? Oh, to me honest, I didn't, I didn't grow up like religious. I just kind of went there for optics. I see. Yeah. Just because they were like... Well, we lived in Boston at the time.

Oh, I see. And like, you know, that's just what you did. And then me and all my cousins, like, went to the same Catholic school, whatever. And then like, but then I would come home, change. One time actually, my dad was home and he fell asleep. But I would run home and I would change and go hang out with my friends because we all went... Everyone who lived on the studio, we all went to different schools. Yeah.

So I would come home and then I changed and then I went home and then my mom called my friend's house and was like, where have you been? And I was like, she's like, did you even go home? And she's like, go home and change right now. I changed. I went home. your dad said you never came home. And I was like, I told him. And then I think he was just asleep.

Oh. And then she was like, huh? And then she was like, okay, everybody. And then she like hung up and I was like, she thought she was like, I literally was gonna call the house. Oh my God. They just didn't see you come in or what? He just heard me come in and I woke him up

and I was like, I think he had come home early or something. And I was like, I'm going here and he was like, oh, okay. And then I like, so I was like, we fully had a conversation. I was like, later. I mean, I kind of love that though. Did you have cell phones growing up? Yeah, I got a cell phone in like fourth grade. Damn.

That's like that's the biggest gap of our generation. It's like we had no cell phones until I was like 18. Well, I was always doing stuff after school. And both my parents had jobs. So it was always like. And also like I wanted one. Like and then I had a sidekick for a long time. Oh my.

In school. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Like eighth grade. Only child. I was so obnoxious with my sidekick. Teachers hated me. Oh, I bet that does everything though to have like a little sidekick in school.

You were like, because that was very parents Hilton too. Oh, it was so chic. Were you always trying to be, you had said hosting. You said you saw Julianna Ransick and you're like, I need to do that. Were you always trying to be in entertainment? Yeah, I just didn't know what I wanted to do. I told myself I wanted to be a Disney Channel actor, but honestly, I was too shy. You would have been a great Disney Channel actor.

Oh my gosh. I wish I grew up in L.A. You still could. You could be young. You still could be literally like... But the Disney Channel's not like what the Disney Channel is. Like back then you're on Disney Channel, like you could do everything. That's true.

But now it's your own Disney Channel. It's like, mm. I don't even know if it's still around. Descendance, I guess. I love Descendance. Yeah, but like no one talks about it. Like everyone knew who Zach, Vanessa, Ashley. That's true.

Everyone knew that. Did you do a self-tape recently, I saw? Were you, like, getting back in my acting era? Was it on Instagram or something or no? I didn't do a self-tape. No, okay. I thought someone's like getting back into acting. When people want me to act, everyone's like, you should be an actor.

You never acted. You never did audition. Okay, I thought I saw something. I did, like, Disney Channel auditions when I was like in middle school. Oh, okay. But like, you know, when they would do the big casting calls, I would do that. Okay. And I would tell nobody.

And you would never, so you never into acting. You just wanted to host more. So, well, when I realized what I was good at, which was, like, talking trash, I was like, oh, I can do that. So if you had a podcast, it would be, would you think, I guess it's kind of what you do on TikTok and substack. It's kind of like you're a hot topic. Yeah, we do like a hot topics.

Like, it doesn't really have to be like all celebrities is just like, it could be about the sinkhole. Could be about like whatever. Like, whatever you guys, check them out. Like your TikTok is really just like whatever you're doing in the moment. You're like, this is how I'm feeling. This is what I'm looking. And you're like, you are just out there, like,

who's on the ground everywhere. Just be like here's what it is. I love it. I was like on one of the rides at Revolve. and I was like, hey guy. Like, I was like, oh my God. Do you ever get, not embarrassed? You ever get, like, shy to do it in public,

like to film in public, or you don't care? No, because everyone at Coachella and Revolve is doing it. What about, like, in the sinkhole, though? You're just, like, literally across street, and you're like... No, because I'm in L.A. And also, I'm in, like, I'm in the mecca of content creators where that area is.

Like, so I'm like... I still get a little shy. If it's a public, I'm a little shy. If I'm at the gym, I get, like, weird. I'm always holding it down here. If I have to film, I'm like, I'm going to film, like, down here and, like, not show. Yes. But I also feel like people, like, you'll see the, like, I don't know.

And now I'm just kind of like, whatever. I used to be that way. Yeah. Sometimes I get weird in front of my friends. Really? But they know this is what you do. And they know, but it's like sometimes I feel weird because I feel like they're expected. And then I fumble in front of them.

And I'm like, I get weird. I get weird. They're not judging. I just get weird because I feel like I have to overperform for it. Okay. Interesting. That's what I wonder because you are so high energy. When you are just, like, by yourself.

I do live alone? Yes. When you're by yourself at home, how are you? Is your mind running a million miles a minute? Or are you ever like, okay, I need to decompress? I love to be outside of my home. I just, I like to be at home when I want to be at home. But, like, I just like to keep myself busy.

You like to be out and be social. Yeah, I like to be busy. Like, you know, sometimes there are days where I'm like, okay, I'm going to stay home today. And then someone will be like, let's do this. And I'm like, okay. I don't even think twice. Oh, man.

I've always been like that, though, always my whole life. Outgoing. extrovert. Did I press something? Oh, no, I didn't. No, you're good. I mean, that's a really great way to be. I'm very much the opposite,

and I kind of wish I just had a little bit more of, like, wanting to be around people and things. But I like, I enjoy it. When people come over, this is my socializing. Like, when people come over, I do enjoy talking to people. I get so excited. I feel like you talk a lot in your house, though. I do.

That's why I was asking you because I am very much, like, how you see me online. So I wondered if you were the same way. Because you know some people. They're not. They turn on. Like, hey, guys, like, happy to be. and then you see him and they're just so, like,

David, like, wouldn't want to do anything. He's like, just not fun. I don't want to go to dinner. I don't want to do this. I don't want to, like, but on camera, it's just like, and a lot of those people in the group would be like that. And you're just like, damn, people really do just flip a switch and they're a different person. That's true.

I've met some people like that too. Yeah. And you're like, they're just like such a dud and then as soon that the camera comes on. I feel like TikTokers aren't like that though. That's true. I would say like Alex Sokley, like she's exactly how she is in person. Like, I've done class with her. She's super nice.

And she's exactly how she is online. I think Tan is exactly how she is online. I guess you're right, maybe more TikTokers. I don't think what are those TikTokers I've met. Well, TikTokers are a different breed than YouTubers. I feel like. They have energy. Well, also they're younger and just hip her, I guess.

Like, you remember the OG class of TikTokers? Like, Taffy, tinks. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, Chris Olson. Yes, I haven't ever met. I have a Chris. Yeah, they're all very nice. You should get him on here.

He just went through a little bit of a scandal. Not scandal, but like he posted this video of his boyfriend breaking up with him. He was a video? No. He posted a video of finding out that his boyfriend cheated on him diabolically. And he's like, he was at the Gracie Abrams concert when he found out and he recorded it. And then it made it in the news and his ex-boyfriend made a statement because their whole thing was like he was private. He never really posted him.

But then he's like, oh, whatever, like I'm posting this because like cheated on yet again. Like so you know what I mean. Or not cheated on yet again. I don't know if he was cheated on last time. He did say, he did say twice he was cheated on because he also said then he goes, I think I'm the problem because I'm coming to nominator. I'm like, oh my god, I feel so bad. He gets a lot of hate too and I always feel a little bad for him because I'm like maybe the gay on gay hate. I'm sure. I don't know what it is.

I love him. He's so nice. Yeah, he's always very nice to me. I always, like, just content, too. But I feel like he gets, like a weird hate train. People are like, you're annoying for like no reason. I know. That's how they, that's what it is being gay in America. Oh my God.

It's allegations on allegations. Like, you don't even know me. It's definitely hot gay. I think if you're like a conventionally unattractive gay, you might get more likeability. Don't even get me started on that. You know? I have a whole dissertation on that.

I do be feeling like the unattractive gays are getting the world. Of course. Because I always miss. I always miss the era. Like I always, like, I missed the 2007 era where I could have been a reporter and been in my bag. Yeah. And then, like, I miss, like, being TikTok famous in the beginning. And then, like, now I'm in that, like, all the unattractive gays are getting the world.

And I'm like, yeah. Do you ever think about making yourself less attractive? No. Yeah, no. You should. Because no matter what, I still get pretty privileged. Yeah. And pretty privilege is so real.

And, like, you said, no matter what, it's like the Taylor Fringy Paul's, like, everybody is like, they still get. Like, they're still getting it. You know what I mean? Like, but that's why I feel some people are out to get me because they're like, you'll figure it out. That's what they love to say. You'll figure it out. Well, that's why I don't want to lose too much weight

because I think there is that, like, you know, non-threatening when you're a little bigger. It's like, oh, she's fat. It's fine. And that's true. You know, and then you get skinny and I was like, oh, shit. But now you have your core audience. Yeah, I'm not too worried about it now,

but that's why I like to be in my little bubble. But sometimes if you're just too attractive, you know. I know. It sucks. Yeah. But wait, but there's another attractive influence or getting everything. Oh, no.

Oh, well, she, well, see if you're a girl, that doesn't work. I think of a guy. Let me think of a hot influencer that gets everything. They are usually straight. Is it? I'm trying to, I can't even think now. I'm trying to think, yeah, you might be right. I'm like, yeah, no, I am right.

Yeah. I would name names, but I don't want to name them because I like them. Yeah. It's hard to be a hot gay. It's hard to be hard. It's hard to be hard. It's hard to be hard. It's, yeah.

Everyone thinks that you're up to no good. Yeah, that is true. But I also feel like other gays see right through me. Okay, what do you mean? tell me, explain. I don't know. Maybe like there's something they see in me that they like are just like, like,

I'm, I think you're just so outgoing. Yeah, I'm like, I can be a little like. No, really? Not to you, but like, you know, sometimes I'm like, sometimes I'm just gonna like, okay. I think you're just so outgoing and like that can be yeah, people might just be like, oh, I wish that was me.

I wish I could be that, you know what I mean? So they might feel a little type of way. But just be that. We're here for what reason? You came to LA to like do nothing? That's true. That's true. I guess people who like can't be that.

Some people can't be themselves. some people can't be outgoing. But, you know, I have a lot of tools. Journalese college degree. I know. No, and that's where you and Oscar have that winning combination because it's so hard to find

where it's like you have, yeah, you have the background, the intelligence, but also the fun and the pop-class. Like, it's hard to have all of it. And the personality and the looks. So you're a triple threat. And so.

I like J-Lah. I love Juliana, though. That's crazy. That's the hottest take you bad. That's the hottest take you out. She is a mess. I love Juliana. I know she's been through a lot,

but she's also been a mess. She was messy boots back in the day. Oh, because of the patchouli oil with Zendaya. Yes, amongst other things. She was my queen, though, and she's still kind of my queen. You know what's so annoying about the Julianneurancic, though? I told you before. I was like, I moved to her being, I'm going to be Juliana Rantic.

And then I came here, everyone's drawn to being Juliana Rancic. And I'm like... But now no one wants to be her. Well, Julian Arancic isn't even Juliana Rancic anymore. I just said, I told you before we started out. I was like, oh, she's about to a podcast on Jerry O'Connell. Like, who even cares? And you're just like, she has a podcast.

And you have a podcast. I did not know she had a podcast. She's going to do a 40-minute one on Jerry O'Connell because Jerry O'Connell responded to a question of reporter asked about her memoir that brought up him and she was basically saying he was an awful boyfriend and that he had a girl up there and broke up with her over the intercom

on like, you know how New York has those intercoms and he broke up with her. But then the reporter asked in current day her memory came out in 2015, the reporter asked Jerry O'Connell and Gerald was like yeah I was a boyfriend and that pissed her off and she's like on a vacation and like Boer or something. She goes guys just wait for my 40-minute podcast. I'm like girl we don't need a 40-minute podcast. He just admitted

he was a horrible boyfriend. Me with my substack, wait for my 20-minute video. Friand-Filtered. Fribenet.com. And go there. Go to Friott, Filted, everyone. I love the name. I love the podcast.

I think you should be doing more of this. I think you're so funny. Check about on TikTok, Fribeenna everywhere. I'm so happy for you and everything. And you are, like, just like an actual star. And I can't wait to see, like, more stuff you do it. You're so good and you're so smart. And I'm happy to see you again for our third time meeting.

It's been wonderful. And thank you for having me. Thank Freya, the Wildwood Witch. for... I didn't know she had a name. Freya the Wildwood Witch. She's great, guys. It's really working.

And you're going on to even more things. We love you so much. And yes, you have a podcast. You have another podcast to get to. So we better let you go. Oh, yes. I have another one to get to. You are booked and busy.

And I'd love to see it. All right, check out everywhere. And you guys will see you guys on the next hot topics. This was great. Thank you.