Just Trish - Tarte Faces BACKLASH For Out of Touch Brand Trip & Trisha DEFENDS David Dobrik?

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Trisha isn't holding back on Tarte's out of touch brand trip, as influencers head on a lavish vacation amidst the wildfires that are devastating Los Angeles. Plus, it's the plot twist of the century as Trish actually DEFENDS David Dobrik after his YouTube return.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is that the debate? Can you, is it okay to body shame if it's the devil? Like maybe? We did ran into someone that I've, that I've talked not nice about on the podcast. It's the most terrifying thing in real life. I don't think it's a bully if you just confront them. Like I wish I could go up to this person and be like, you're gross. But. Hello. Welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. Hope you guys are well. Hope you are staying safe. And here we are.

Today we are having the Just Trish podcast and we are sponsored by SeatGeek, Adam Neve, and a new one, Morgan & Morgan. We love you guys. More to come on those ad reads. I have a tour coming in less than a month. So we're announcing it this week. The tickets go on sale. The announcement for all the cities are Thursday at 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time this week. The tickets will go on sale Friday at 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time. We have to announce this week because like we're literally a month away from the tour starting. It's a 30 city tour. And yeah, usually people announce

months in advance. So we're going to 30 cities. I hope you can come. Way to sell it, girl. Yes, mama. Sell those tickets. Hope you can be there. Hope you can be there. I'm really nervous to announce the name.

They told me to not announce the name in the key art yet. But I'm really excited. It's the Eras of Trish tour. And I'm really excited because it's going through all the eras. This is the cell right here. It's going through all the eras. And I've been putting the show together. And I kind really excited. It's the Eras of Trish tour. And I'm really excited because it's going through all the eras. This is the cell right here. It's going through all the eras. And I've been putting the show together. And I kind of live.

The promo that I did accidentally. I do have the. Oh, my God. Wait, that's our. Trish Eras show. That looks so good. This was a total accident, but it kind of worked. It's literally all there.

I only see the two. I see King Tut and Sad Boy. Okay, yes. I'm going to go lower. Yeah. It really has. Oh, my God. It's literally all there. I only see the two. I see King Tut and Sad Boy. Okay, yes. I like to go lower. Yeah. It really has. Oh my God, it really has everything. Podcast, Celebrity Big Brother, Floor.

What's the one? Floor. Oh, Floor. God Warrior. Okay, I love that. Wow. Yeah. We're going through all those.

We're going through the Confused. We're going through all of it. I'll be on the kitchen floor. I have a little screen projecting um and I'm really excited I think it's gonna be fun we have the Disney Channel era Trish um we have some bilingual era Trish we have the fat Trish like fat chicks and things I have a lot of songs about being fat so I was just going through my like catalog I asked you guys and then we have the hits at the end I have a new album coming out February 15th so so there'll be new songs. And it's just going to be fun. This is my big one, you guys. I do have to do the pushing out because I think this is like my only, I'm already a little overwhelmed by doing 30 cities. It's my

only tour probably for ever. I love doing the Trish Riz shows. I did. I have so much fun. And I know I'm going to love doing these as well. It's just like a lot especially because I have kids and a husband and I have like five podcasts. I have to film two of these a week. I have to get out

head on that love line. I head on Patreon. So it's a lot but I think if I were to perform in the future it's going to be like me dreaming big. Vegas residency,

cruise, Broadway, like something like that but as far as like tour i'm coming to random indianapolis i think is our first show in february 20th like random like what is in indianapolis they're like no it's a good market i'm like are you sure i mean people ask people everyone has come to this city come to this city so now it's actually coming to city near you and not just near us right there's a random city. Indianapolis has like a huge capacity. I was like,

I hope there's enough people in Indianapolis to come. It was like a 3,500 seat theater. I'm like, is that that many people? Because I'm from Illinois, which is right next to Indiana. And I don't even know

if there was that many people in my town. So I was like, I hope you show up. I think Michael Jackson was from Indianapolis, but he's gone. So I don't think he's showing up.

But rest in peace. Rest in peace. We'll also go to Detroit right away, which is also my love. I've never been. I've been to Michigan, but like not. I'm excited. I only know eight mile. I don't know much, but I'm excited to go. I, you know, maybe I should do Eminem for there.

Maybe I should do like a surprise song like Taylor Swift. Yeah, very Taylor Swift. And each city have like a song from there. Yeah. I don't know what's in Indian. Oh, I guess I'm like Jackson 5 or something I could do. And then Detroit, I could be like, mom, spaghetti, omnis, aca, heavy. Like, you know what I mean?

Maybe. And then we go to Toronto. So that first weekend is Indianapolis, Detroit, Toronto. Toronto, I know, are my people. I will say, even in my flop era, which was an era, my heartbreak tour maybe sold like 100 tickets. Toronto came out, I remember we had like 700 people come out and this was my flop flop era

and they've always come out. So Toronto, it's where I had my first book signing. I have faith in Toronto. Come on, Canada. Oh, is it Canada? Toronto, Canada?

We're international. Wait, right? Yeah. It's Canada. Oh my God, you almost gaslit me into thinking I'm from Canada. I didn't know.

Wait, so we are like a world tour. I thought we were just doing U.S. All right. All right, Toronto. Yeah, you're doing the North American tour. North American tour. You better gather before they add Canada to America. Are they going to do that?

They're trying. What? Probably Canadians are like, no, thank you. We like our free health care. Oh, I wonder if I can access tiktok in canada do you think is it just the u.s or is it north america i think it's just the u.s but i'm not the most educated on it but damn my tiktoks in toronto anyways there's random cities i'm excited to go they're random i mean half the cities i haven't heard of, but I'm excited. I'm excited for you to come back and know more about America. Me too. I am too. I feel like I'm really going to be worthy

with this one. Is there a date at the Alamo? Oh, no, there's not. We're in three. We talked about this last time. We had three Texas ones and not one San Antonio. Not one San Antonio, which is crazy because everyone was very mad about that because we talked about that last episode. It's like, how are you not from San Antonio? I don't know. We're going to three other cities in Texas, which is awesome. Not my very mad about that because we talked about that last episode. It's like, how are you not coming to San Antonio? I don't know. We're going to three other cities in Texas, which is awesome. Not my demographic, I would think, but we'll see. Hopefully. I don't know.

I'm trusting them. But I'm excited. And yeah, so they go on sale Friday. So I don't know. I know. It's here. It's upon us. It's upon us.

Yeah. Well, I'm excited. Huh? The tour is upon us. The tour is upon us. It's upon us. Yeah. Well, I'm excited. Huh? The tour is upon us. The tour is upon us. Yeah. All right. Well, how are you?

Do you have anything to promote? Are you going on tour? Patreon. Oh. I was waiting for that one. We have been lagging on the Patreon promo, but can I tell you, Patreon is so much fun. It's literally like my funnest thing that we do. Patreon.com slash JustTrish.

When I was watching The Traitors, I was thinking about when we reacted to the video of me running. Did we post that one already? Yes, that one is up. That one was in the Mr. Beast, Beast Games reaction. Go watch the Beast Games. I was telling Oscar because I couldn't compete in the Beast Games. Wasn't invited, but couldn't compete anyway. Couldn't compete. Because I literally, I literally can't run. I was thinking about this with Traders too because I was like, oh, it's not that athletic. I'm like, they're still running

to go get these things. Like, I literally can't run and we analyzed it. There's a video I did called Dead and Gone and it's like me running and I'm truly like gliding. Like, I'm not even picking

my feet up off the ground. Like, I don't know how to run. It's like a feet shuffle. It was a shuffle. It was crazy. It was actually like if someone didn't know how to walk.

It was actually like I really don't know how to run for real. So anyways, there's exciting things there. What do we have coming up this week on Patreon? We just reacted to three Trish Talks, which was a really groundbreaking series, you guys. I'm quite proud of it. I mean, I took it very serious. Again, the theme was like actors on actors. A deep dive into the mind behind Trish Talks.

Trisha, the star, writer, director, craft services, props department, production assistant. I'm going to watch it. I was sad I wasn't there. Moses was so sad. He's like, wait, you watched it? I wanted to be there for it. I was like, what? I'll watch it, too.

He's a fan, too. It was good. It was, and watching it through your eyes, like, I was like, you know what? Honestly, this is kind of good. Because I was actually being kind of facetious, i was like it's kind of good actually it actually is good that is the gag and again i said it i said a couple weeks ago i'll say it again i think the day before tiktok maybe gets banned or does get banned i think you just got to post them all on there give them one last hoorah yeah because they deserve a second life they do okay

they're so good ready to go them lined up ready to go. I will post. They're short. They're like seven to eight minutes. They're easy watches. We also reacted to old drama, which has been so much fun. Not my drama,

but other people's drama, which has been. Yeah, but somehow you're always at the scene of the crime. Always at the scene of the crime. We reacted to Gabbie Hanna and like, I,

like again, I, ooh, I think I'm going to Pittsburgh. I wonder if Gabbie wants to perform with me. Like have a song. That's a special guest. Like, when Taylor had Sabrina Carpenter,

you have Gabby Hanna. And we perform Butterfly together. I would, oh my god, okay. Anyways, I, but just, like, watching Beck's stuff is, like, just, you know, things are just, like, not as serious. And it makes it, like, lighter. And I think it was Emergency Intercom

was talking about Gabby Hanna and how, like, she's gotten better and stuff. And I'm like, oh, we'd love to see, like, a full circle moment. You know what I mean? Love her so much. So we react to drama. We I'm like, oh, we'd love to see like a full circle moment. You know what I mean? Love her so much. So we react to drama. We also like, yeah, our most popular tier is the bonus video one. For a bonus video and the hot topics, you get twice a week. And we have a lot of people sign up on there, actually. I looked the other day and I was like, I never look because I,

you know what? Oh, I uploaded. That's why. Because I never, I never look. I never see how many people are there. So I went to go upload and it shows the numbers which I had no idea and I was just like oh my god we have a lot of people on that bonus tier so we really got to keep making those videos because sometimes it's like last minute we're like oh my god we got to make them but I really like to do them we'll find another day to do them but they're so much fun patreon.com slash just trish headshots just shipped out stickers cds all of that we'll have new ones coming but um we love our patrons you guys are are everything i met one at the merry christmas i met a producer i met abdullah did i tell you that oh no i met abdullah and um he was like i'm not married i don't have a sugar daddy i pay for this myself

because i think we got him confused with someone else and there's like two abdulahs i think right he's like a gifted like got it gifted as like a gift or something from their husband. But I love meeting them in real life. It's so funny when people tell me they're a producer. Like I think two people told me, like, I'm a producer. I was like, what is that? I was like, oh, you guys never meet a real life patron. So it's very cool.

Keep saying that because now I know what that means. So it's really, really fun. Oscar's been uploading through the literal storms. Yes. Literal hell here. You know. Oscar's like, you know oscar is like rain or shine or anything it's like just trish uploaded i was like all right between power outages and oh it was yeah because oscar edited last week's episode because jimmy was out of power for like days two days like two full days i think yeah it was it was wild last week um yeah that's why last week,

what was it, last Thursday's episode, it didn't have the same whimsy. Jimmy was like, I'm excited to watch it. I was like, Jimmy, it doesn't have your whimsy. I was just trying to get through it. Actually, because your power was going out. I was telling everyone, just don't worry. Poor Jimmy was stressing about everything. I'll upload your Nut Love Light and Patreon by Friday.

I was like, it's fine. People can probably wait. I didn't watch it, but I'm sure it's good. You got the job done, you know. I was surprised. I was because it is hard like filming it and then like all the stuff happening and the power outages. Yeah. My power was just going on and off and on like three or four times. And it was crazy.

Like our grocery stores, they all lost power. So like we couldn't get like produce or anything for a couple of days wow because they just had to like get rid of everything that was refrigerated so it was nuts yeah i didn't yeah that wasn't happening here so i didn't even know that was happening the i know because i mean i'm not super far from you but it is crazy like the each like 20 minute distance like it really like affects at different scales with all the fires. Because you're also more, is it called rural? When you're around more buildings and cities and houses, you're by malls and restaurants.

What's that called? Rural? I think opposite, like metropolitan. That's crazy to say metropolitan for you. It is suburban, though. There's a lot of strip malls. There's a lot of businesses and stuff. Over here, I feel like it's more residential, right?

And everything's more spread out, for sure, here. Oh, interesting. So, yeah, I didn't know. Because I thought it would be least affected if there's a bunch of places with power and generators. I have no idea how it works. It was just so windy, I think. Yeah. And then, obviously, i don't know i think some

places they turn off power to like as a precaution um right but a lot of it was the winds like the winds were just like so strong that a lot of random blocks were like losing power i mean even jimmy like i remember texting him on the way here when we were filming the other like last time and i was like your power should be back they said they said it was a very small amount of people that were have gone over 24 hours without power yeah and then he literally didn't have it for like two whole days i know and he's even more metropolitan than you like he's really central and i was like wait that's so weird and like we offered you offered him to go there we offered him to come here and he was like no we're just gonna i'm like what are you doing are you just like sitting i like what do you do i guess read like come here like at least you can game or

something i don't know i felt bad i was like you can come here he's like we're gonna wait i was like okay i know i'm saying i was like are you sure um but he really stuck through it so i don't know if i would have lost it i guess you get a lot of meditation maybe because just like clear your thoughts have you seen that one meme of like Kim Kardashian dress I think she's like

dressed like a pilgrim or like Amish or something oh yeah from a while ago that's how I imagine Jimmy without power what was that

photo shoot for I have no idea it was some magazine they're like let's put her in an Amish outfit it was kind of a serve in retrospect

I feel like it's very you coded for sure I would dress up as Amish they. It was kind of a serve in retrospect. I feel like it's very you coded. For sure. I would dress up as Amish. They won't know because they don't have social media, right? So how would they know? No one's offended.

I love that meme. I love that one. Kim is kind of a mood sometimes. I know. Did you see Khloe Kardashian's Snapchat story though? No. Oh my god. It has like, obviously she's not posting, someone else is posting for her, but it has like, it had like 300 snaps in like 24, maybe even more. I would

say 500 snaps. Like, y'all know I found a way to get back on Snapchat, but I'm not on Snapchat, but I found a way to like look at it because I saw everyone talking about it, so I was like, let me figure out how to get on this. And I looked at her stories and it's like, also like, I think, allegedly it's stolen content. Like, it's literally like a bunch of like fire pictures and she's posting it. Again, I know it's not Khloe posting, but whoever's posting is as if she's taking it like so scary right now.

Like, you know, like showing it's like very odd. And she posts she probably posted 500 things about the fire. Like just about not even like help and resources, just like pictures. Oh, my God. L.A. is burning like that kind of is so weird. That is very weird. You think she's getting paid by the snap? I think they do, right?

So if you post like 500 snaps, you mean she didn't like- Yeah, I think it's quantity. Yeah. That's crazy. I was just like- And the retention rate, I'm sure has something to do with it.

Like how long you can keep people on your story. Right, because they, I don't know how Snapchat works fully, but I know like people post like a scandalous picture at the end, so people have to click through to see it. Very odd. Also, this was international news, so she had so many more eyes

on it than the usual. That's true. It's just very odd, because she also has a new podcast. I was like, look, obviously they don't need money, but it is so weird. How much money could she be getting paid from Snapchat or her podcast to make it worth it? Do you know what I mean? Honestly, T, yeah. I mean, Snap mean snap especially because i mean i guess it is such like low-hanging fruit i guess if you can do it do it but i mean maybe just have a little bit of sensibility about it you know what

i mean like because again she's not super close to the fires there was that one there was the one that happened after i think it was god that last week aged me like 20 years because i can't even like i don't have a sense of time i think that one was thursday um and it was semi close to her i guess but other than it was like contained so quickly over us so it was to like make it seem like she is in the middle of it i think is well very damning i don't know that's what it was and it's also like it was like like make it seem like she is in the middle of it I think is well very damning I don't know that's what it was and it's also like it was like aerial shots and stuff of like the LA you know on fire and so it's very odd it was very weird I don't know I mean maybe it's like not the

biggest deal but I was just like that's so hot like how much money could she possibly be making from posting these you know what I mean and she does it a lot I know I've seen it before where she has like 300 stories I guess snap has money money apparently, but I don't know. I know. I mean, their like creator deals were insane. And obviously someone like Khloe, I'm sure, was even better than like a David Dobrik deal, I would imagine, right? So getting like a million dollars a day or what? Maybe.

It has to be worth it. It has to be more than David. I know there would be TikTokers and like literally no shade, but TikTokers who like, you know, like mid-influencers said they were getting paid like $30,000 like a day from Snapchat. That's crazy. I know. I was like, damn, okay.

I mean, good for them, but it's so odd. Maybe people are going to go there if TikTok gets banned. I don't think anything can get me to Snap, to be honest. I really just don't like it. There's something so sus about Snap. I just don't like it. Wait, what do you mean sus? What do you think?

I feel like that is where everything bad originates from really because it's so under the radar. Like they disappear. It's I don't know. I don't know. It's just it gives me bad vibes over at Snap. I agree. I do agree with that because even like I was found a way to snuck in through someone else's account and then I remember like

getting that account got shut down. It was like what did I look at Thursday or Friday and then it was like shut down on Saturday. I was like, how do they know that I'm looking through this account? I don't know if they knew that, but all of a sudden that account was shut down and it's not my account. And I was like, how the heck did it shut down? It's so weird. Yeah.

I'm not going there either. Everyone wants to know where everyone's going if TikTok gets banned and I'm like, I'll just go to Reels I guess. I know. I mean, it is – YouTube. YouTube shorts. Honestly, yeah.

Let's make – Okay. Okay. I'm back to my channel i'm back vlogging just be a short kind of fierce actually that's true and even with snap too like um as we saw with like the what was that trish channel over there remember that oh yeah like nothing is vetted over there like people just post like random stolen content and make up like fake news articles about it. All fake news.

Tana had one she posted where she was, like, telling Mako I'm pregnant or something. And it was her face on it. And Mako was, and she was, like, what is this? Like, why do they have this? And it was, like, one of those, like, mine, like, a story. And it was so weird. Like, they just make up stuff. It's so odd.

But it flies so under the radar that it's just, like, not, there's no, like, checks or balances. Yeah. And there's no, like, comment section. So, like like you can just go willy-nilly and never get any feet like negative feedback at all i guess that's good for people who are like terrible yeah exactly the ones who don't want to see the comments i guess that's a place to go the vibe of those magazines when you check out yes the cashier and there's like magazines like they're divorced they're broken up yeah they're a lizard person or something like

yeah those still out those like inquirers and examiners and all those i feel like i haven't seen them at the stores anymore but i'm sure they got to be online or something because there's so much crazy yeah random news that makes no sense shout out to the sponsor today's episode sea geek we have a new code for you guys trish 2025 we'll give you 10 off any tickets we love sea geek this is the year of shows. We love entertainment. We love getting out of the house and I'm super excited. There are so many great people on tour right now. Kendrick Lamar, SZA Tour, Billie Eilish, Raul Alejandro, Post Malone, and so many more. I know I loved it last minute. Last year we were supposed to see Juanez and we couldn't go last minute so

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We love you guys, we use you guys, you're great. And I can't wait to see so many shows with the code Trish2025 for We're done. Press it off. We love you. Thank you, Seeky. Those used to always be – I haven't seen like the paper ones. I know what you mean like the closer and all those. But like the paper ones used to be so crazy.

Like Michael Jackson stole his kids. Michael Jackson in a frozen chamber. Like those were like always. And I was like, who's Michael Jackson? Like I was a little kid. I was like, who is this? My dad's like, don't look at it. I was like, okay.

But that is true. I haven't seen like those kind of tabloids. But even Us Weekly and those, they're all kind of getting fake news a little bit. Yeah. A lot of them are just like very all over the place. It's hard to know what to sort through. That's why I feel like media literacy is at a low. But I think it's – to people's – like to people's defense, it is hard to sort through so much news. And everyone's like a source

here, a source there. And I'm like, but like what? Like it doesn't really make sense, but people believe it because if someone's publishing it, then it's like, oh, that has to be real. That is so true. You just believe it because it's like in the papers and the magazines. Yeah, and that has – like gives a sense of authority if like a publisher is saying it and they just say sources or whatever.

That's so true. So it's tough. Now people just cite like tweets as sources. Honestly, yeah. Like Trina Paytas said. And it's like, okay, that must be fact then. It is crazy. It just gets out of hand.

I guess we learned that like from – I guess it was – oh, from Traders. It's kind of like that too. It's like one person says something and then all of a sudden I'm like, yeah, he was being sus. And I was like, that's crazy how you – it's kind of just the world we live in. How one person can say something and then everyone else is just like on that bandwagon too. Yeah.

Even if there's no – because who eliminated – spoiler alert. Was it – I don't even know their name. The guy from The Bachelor. They eliminated Tony. Tony. No, not that one. The one – you know what I mean? Yeah.

I got spoiler alert for the traitors. Oh, yeah. Wells was eliminated. Yes. No, like it's Wells. And I was like, who the hell? Like we haven't seen him at all. And everyone was so like, okay, yeah, you you're right and then they all started voting him and i was just

like i guess tony i could see whatever but that guy i was like that's so random but yeah just you just believe whatever the majority says and you're like we'll just go with that yeah that is very much the tea especially that's i feel like that's been seen a lot this past week there's been all these crazy stories and i'm like wait but i I live here and I haven't seen anything that people are talking about. Wait, what's the craziest one? I feel like there's a lot of fear mongering and rage baiting and stuff about the fires and whatever. And we kind of talked about this. The thing, yes, of course, that stuff exists, obviously, because that's just the way of the world.

There are people that prey upon people who are going through a hard time but i feel like we've mostly seen like niceness kindness like on social media um like like on twitter and stuff there is a lot of like people just being terrible obviously but in real life and like on instagram and stuff i've only seen good stuff like when i went to the market people are just being nice and like making small talk and being like courteous. And I don't know. In real life, everyone is showing a lot of empathy and kindness. Oh, it's actually like so cool to see because L.A. is so big and everyone just helping out. I mean there were so many people like going to Costco.

I saw Alexis Oakley making literal batches of pasta like this big and just like sending them over. There's so many donations that there's like fire centers or fire departments are just like, oh, send it to here. We already have enough. Like there's just like too much. People are – my makeup artist Ari who like loves animals. She was trying to foster animals because they have to get the animals out of the shelter to make room for the new ones. And there was like a list. They're like, oh, everyone's been fostered already.

Like it's amazing how many people – Bangin' Buns. Huh? Bangin' Bun. And my club, we sent out those boxes of the Trish meal to everybody, which was like really cool. And just everyone like donating has been really cool. One of my hairstylists, Rachel, she was like gathering up like supplies from Costco and people were like selling her money. And we were just like doing that. It was really, because like money and time, both of it, everyone was like donating, which was like really cool to see because people are not helpful in general out here.

But then when times of like crisis happens, people come together, which is very cool. And yeah, I like seeing it. You know, sometimes people like come for influencers being like – like, you know, when they give money to the homeless or something and they're filming it. But I liked it because it was like inspiring. I was like, oh, there's like all these people helping and you like want to help too.

I know. It is that weird thing of like a lot of the times it's like damn if you do, damn if you don't. Like, oh, they're filming this just to make content off of it to make them look good. But at the end of the day, it is like a good message. Like Tara Yumi, for example, like she was really quick to like go out and like donate at different places. And I found out about places to donate to because of Tara Yemi, you know?

Yeah, same, same. I feel like it's good for them to, you know. To influence. Yeah, influence. To show people, yeah, what to do. Rebecca Black was here last week and we share a hairdresser. And I actually don't know him that well. He did my paper magazine shoot.

And she shared his GoFundMe because this entire house burned down. I had no idea. I would have never known. She like didn't post about it. So then I post about it. And then it is like a ripple effect you see. And then so anyone who was making pastas or whoever was ever, I was just trying to like give money to them because it was just like, it's just cool to see.

It's cool. Like that people post it. Yeah. Like you said, you're damned if you do it because you don't post. Like, why aren't you posting? Why didn't you donate? And then you're like, okay. So every GoFundMe, I usually do anonymous, but I was like, well, I'll put my name just

so people see. Cause you just, you don't know. You don't know what the right thing to do. So if you share GoFundMe and they don't see your was like well I'll put my name just so people see because you just you don't know you don't know what the right thing to do so if you share GoFundMe and they don't see your name then it's like okay you didn't so it's like all right I'm gonna just put my name everywhere but um yeah it's good like you said at the end of the day it's like helping so if people don't yeah and it's like not as um I guess entertaining as like you know the range the rage bait and like the fear mongering I guess guess. But it makes me, I don't know. I like seeing that more.

It makes me feel better. It gives me hope, you know. Exactly. And that's kind of what we need right now is just any kind of silver lining you can get is good. Yeah. The hope is definitely good. And people, Heidi and Spencer are a big one that have been out there.

And then on my mind, everyone was like streaming Heidi's song and got it to like number one and stuff. So I think like the optimism – because they both were like posting a lot – or Spencer's posting a lot on TikTok and I was like, they're pretty optimistic considering you just like lost your entire house. Like people say like it doesn't matter how much like money you have or don't have or – like they even said, they said all the money they made was basically in the house, which is true with – that's what's true with anyone. It's like very few people just have like money sitting ready to rebuild. So the optimism people had was inspiring. The fear mongering one, was it, was it Leo Skeppy?

Okay. This is for everybody in LA. If you survived the fire, congrats. This is round two. This is threat number two. All that pent up bull that everybody got from 2024. You want to crash the out, save it. You about to need it. This is not a about to need it this is not a time to relax this is not a time to chill out this is about to become a fight for resources and you're also going to be dealing with people in the society of la all these homeless people been waiting for their moment this is their time to shine they're already breaking in to houses businesses stealing people are setting more fires just because they want to watch this go down. Yeah, but it's also not just him.

It's like everywhere. His got like almost a million likes when I went to it. And I was like, that's crazy. I mean, that's, is he, I don't even think he still lives here anymore. Yeah, which I was like, I, I'm, look, I, God, I really want to like Leo. I really do.

I think he's just like, his delivery is just a little like. Intense. It's intense. We're all're always like, cause even I was just like, Oh my God, the, the people are coming, you know, like you just get like really, and it is, it is a lot, especially in the moment when everything's happening. And it's like, and I saw a girl come about it and she's like, okay, like that's not just happening like everywhere. And like, you know, people are already scared as it is. Why do people do that? Not just Leo, like you said, but just in general, why do people want to instill fear in others

so much? I literally do think it's because that is just what gets more attention, which is like unfortunate, but it does drive more of a reaction than like something sweet and happy. Yeah. Yeah. I know like Whitney Cummings has been doing that a lot too. I'm like, okay, everyone just chill out. No, I haven't seen what she's saying.

She's been going on a tangent. She's been going on and on and on. She's like, people have told me that they're going in the sewers with gasoline and they're lighting fires in the ground. And she was coming for the fire department because there's like three lesbians that are at the top of it. And it's like, why are they just hiring people that they want to bone or whatever? What?

Yeah, I was like, wait, what? Yeah. The aliens are getting to everybody. I know. It's like, just chill out, everybody. Wait, that's crazy. That's actually – yeah, as Tati Westbrook says, like, time and place for conspiracies. It's just like a lot, especially when it's happening in the moment and there are people

like just trying to help and do good. And I didn't see that. That's crazy because I know her – I think she had to evacuate because her podcast set up is in her house too. And she was like showing that, but I didn't know about all that. Is that happening? I didn't hear about the sewers. She claims that someone saw it and texted it to her.

It hasn't been verified on the news or anything. Well, let's not spread this around. It's like media literacy, as you said, like running with the inquirer. Yeah. Because to spread something around that's like not actually happening it's like scary because when the the woodland hills one happened that they said that was an intentional one set by somebody i mean that is scary when that happens but then like when stuff isn't happening and then it starts spreading and then people panic and i mean i guess it's like good to be aware but if it's not yeah it's going

to be vigilant obviously like i said there are cases where, of course, looting is happening. But like I know Daniel Prada, his car got stolen. That was crazy. It was really crazy. Yeah. And they're in like a nice neighborhood. Yeah. And so a looter came, broke into his car and stole his car and everything that was packed in it, which is terrible. So obviously like those terrible things are happening.

Yeah. But I feel like people are just really taking advantage and trying to make people be more afraid obviously be aware um and be vigilant but also have hope and know that a lot i feel like there's just more good there is so much more good yes if you like actually get offline and like look around you know and see everyone just trying to help and come together so even people like new york influencers like everyone was trying to like help and like raise awareness. I saw Rachel Seckler. I saw Remy Joe. Like I saw Boni.

Everyone was posting about like how to help and where to help and what they're doing. And I thought that was like, it's cool. Yeah. Because it is hard when you're not in California. It's kind of like, you know, when the hurricanes are in Florida, it's like you don't know the severity of it. Yeah. Like you donate, but it's hard to just like understand the scope of it because you haven't

been there, you um like in fear of losing your house yeah or even just like here with in not even just la county like obviously here ventura county or like orange county i feel like everyone has been affected to some degree obviously varying degrees like some people lost everything some people fear like uh were close losing everything or know someone who did or you hiked somewhere that got destroyed or you ate somewhere that got destroyed like everyone yeah kind of has a story so um i think that is why there's a lot of people talking about this one in particular because it's just such a big area and so many people have some kind of connection

you know yeah to the area especially like you grew up here like your whole life so you're just like all these places i knew for so long is yeah which is like wild to think about i will say another good example of good where you least expect it james charles did you see him rescuing his huskies oh no oh my god okay so he posted a tiktok and there was two he thought they were like wolves or coyotes at first but they were two huskies that got lost in the fire. I guess the owners evacuated because they had their collars on. So he called the owners and I guess the owners were like an hour away and I guess the huskies just ran away or they just got left behind or something like that.

But he, he got the leashes, he got them on leashes, he gave them food and he waited for the owners. And I was like, that's so nice. Because if I saw two big wolves, I mean, I would like to be that person. I'm just, I've had Moses do it because I'm scared. Also, we don't have leashes, but I would probably try to help. Although we have coyotes here, so I don't know. I'd probably be trying. I think my mom happened. Did my mom think a coyote? She was trying to rescue one one time in her car. Was it? No, it was a friend of hers, Facebook,

but it's kind of a Facebook meme where you post a picture of a coyote. It's like, I just found this dog. I'm thinking of adopting it. Oh, is that it? She's trying to like rescue. Okay, yeah, okay, different one. But I feel like that would be me where like, I'm scared of dogs, especially big dogs. But if I saw some out there, I'd probably ask Moses to help it.

But we have a lot of coyotes and that would be. It's fine, I know the difference. You don't mind coyotes. Oh no, I walk to them. I'm like, you get out of here right now. Yeah, you're pretty nice to them. They're pretty. But it was so nice. I was like, wow, that was really nice. I don't know. They seemed like, you get out of here right now. Yeah, you're pretty nice to them. They're pretty. But it was so nice.

I was like, wow, that was really nice. I don't know. They seemed like loving and he like gave them like leash. I was like, that's pretty cool. Because he has dogs too. And I guess they were like, you know, whatever. But he like called them. There's a video.

It's kind of viral of the guy that found his dog after five days. And he was like, I was like, you just break in tears when you see that. Because you feel the emotion and the fact that he found it and it was still alive so many animals yeah i'm like scared yeah they said if there's like wildlife out there keep your animals in and put water out for them because they're like probably thirsty yeah it's affects so many different aspects like i don't know like obviously people and the wildlife and think about the kids and like their daycares or schools it's like it's such a crazy ripple effect and honestly like it doesn't matter even if i don't particularly care about the person as like i saw logan paul in case i donated a lot of prime to firefighters too and i was like honestly i don't care who is

doing any good as long as you're doing good like yeah and i think too a lot of people forget like empathy is like an unlimited resource you know like you can have room in your heart to care about a lot of different causes or disasters and it's not like a competition like all because we care about this one doesn't mean we don't care about the hurricanes in north carolina and florida you know it's like or the lahaina fire like you can care about a lot of things at once and even if like mr beast lost everything in the fire like i would still feel bad for him like even though i don't like him if something and i know that he's rich like if you still lose everything and you have so many memories in a home like i would still feel terrible of course yeah like having to like re do everything the prime is wild prime is wild but

they firefighters didn't need like gatorade and stuff so I mean it doesn't taste that great but honestly I whatever it takes you know who was it I think it was a pop grave I don't think I was being duped on this one I think this was real news pop grave said that Katy Perry was donating you did it what you were duped again wait really no first pop grave I thought it was but was it not pop grave oh my gosh said that Katy Perry was donating all her money from her 143 is that the album the 143 album

to the LA Fires and I was like well that's really nice but then everybody in the comments was like so they got $27 like people were being so mean

and I was like damn people like she donated so she didn't donate the money it was just a big story I don't think we know yeah I think someone

just came up with that in your defense there was a lot of those. Like, people were making – Yeah. The CNN accounts on Twitter are wild. Like, people were saying Selena Gomez donated, like, $10 million or something. And then they were tagging the, like, accounts that – organizations that they donated to to make it look legit.

And then some of them were responding, well, we love Selena, but this isn't real. Which I'm sure at some point everyone will donate because they live here and they are generous people yeah but to make to make it into a stan thing is crazy that was i thought it was so real it sounded very real and i was like well that's nice and everyone was being so mean about it i was like well damn people they set her up they did set katie up with that god why the katie hate that's so random i mean i kind of get it a little bit i guess something okay but like the whole like for a year now i'm like okay god people really are just okay well i mean i was scrolling through and i was like oh somebody's buying tiktok everything is fine and then i saw it was us oh yeah you were buying tiktok did i say that on the

podcast i was like you said that on the podcast last week. I was like, did I? I think you said it as a joke, maybe. Definitely as a joke. Unless I won like the lottery or something. I mean, I would buy it. What was it? Daily Mail or something. I was like, that's wild. Let me play it to see what you said.

Is there a clip of it? I think they did like a snap or a TikTok or something. It says, Daily Mail. Viral influencer Trisha Paytas talks about buying TikTok to oppose ban in TMZ interview this afternoon. And it's like a really old clip from like Hollywood Fix or something. Oh, yeah. Wait, that is weird. They have no audio of you. It's just

random clips of you. Yeah, that's why I was like, wait. Random. And then someone's like, oh, you said on the podcast last week. I was like, I don't know. We say a lot of things in three hours. I know. I don't remember. I will say, I'm a manifester. I think it's going to be fine. I think TikTok's here.

I don't know. Like, I don't think it's being banned. People are fear mongering. People really are. Like, I'm going to miss you guys. Where are we going? This changed my life. They're coming for a TikTok.

They're going to loot your inbox. There's no way. There's no way. It's not B-band. I mean, I've had the same or I still kind of have the same sense that you have. I'm like, someone's going to come in at the last minute and do something. But we're really getting down to the wire. I think it's going to be pushed to March.

I hope so. People are saying look this is not my theory i just thought that our new president is supporting tiktok staying and that he wants it to stay but the ban happens a day before he's inaugurated i think that sounds about right so they're saying if it gets pushed to march he can do more for oh yeah you're right because the ban is the 19th and inauguration is the 20th and i did see that he asked the supreme court to pause it yes yeah i think that's gonna happen i i've seen it and i think that's gonna happen and i think it's gonna be fine it is so sad like at first i was like it's just tiktok i mean we always find a new platform i love tiktok i had 10 million followers it's like sucks that we'd have to lose it.

Moses is finally finding his footing on TikTok with his canned food, who is staying daily now at this point. He'll disappear for an hour. I'm like, where did you go? I'm opening up packages. First of all, it's for five minutes. He's getting pearl spoons. I'm like, what is this for?

He's like, it's for the fish eggs or whatever he's eating. And I was like, okay. They do well. They get a couple hundred thousand views. I'm like, well, they do pretty good. And I was like, damn, it can't be banned now that you finally found your niche on there. That sucks. But aside from that, I mean, it is like, I think Keith Lee posted something and I'm like, it is crazy to think like Keith Lee has changed like so many small businesses where they were able to like retire or like, you know, pay back funds or get life changing surgery because of TikTok. And I'm like, I kind of forget about like that aspect of TikTok.

So I, for that reason, I hope, or like just people like the Heidi, the Heidi and Spencer of it, just people like banding together. It would just really suck. It would just really, really suck. Cause I know people's like livelihoods and it's not just TikTokers, it's like companies. Yeah. And it's the first time we have power, people have power so people decided Heidi is going to be number one on iTunes the people made it happen and not the big companies and the big record labels

but even if they ban it it takes time because what it means is that your app is not going away it just means that the app store is not going to have the new updated version of it so it just means that you're not going to be able to update your app and after a while it means that the App Store is not going to have the new updated version of it. So it just means that you're not going to be able to update your app. And after a while, it means that your app won't work because it's not up to date to your phone. So all it means that there's time. Even if they ban it, there'll be time for the next president or there'll be time to bring it back. They say it updates every two times a week, though. So like the updates are just going to be super slow.

Right. So you're not going to get updated, but it's still going to work. So, all I'm saying is, like, it will give time for people to figure out, you know. They just have to. I just, like, to me, it's like, to me, like, it doesn't even, there's just no way. And I keep seeing everyone be like, goodbye, everyone. And I'm like, we're not Vine. We don't suck.

We're thriving, you know. We don't suck. We don't suck. I like everyone was saying what the big concern is what? Our privacy and everyone's like, our information's out there. But all the apps takes away all our information. Facebook steals our information.

Google steals our information. They sell it. They do whatever. Think about like when we spit in those little tubes for Ancestry. It's like, they have everything. They literally have our DNA. They can literally just like kill us and clone us.

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I saw so many people like, we're not paying taxes. I was like, all right, well, I think that's not a good idea either. I love the idea of rebelling, though. Like, in theory, that sounds like a good idea, but I don't know if that really works. It does suck. We don't have a little more say over tax dollars in these situations. You know what I mean? Like we do pay, I guess like the fires too. That's the whole thing, right? California is crazy expensive. And it's just like, it's crazy. Like where does all this money go? No, you have zero choice. You know, when I moved here to California, there talk was the high-speed train.

Oh, yeah. And at the time, it was like immediately out of the good, you know, $4 billion, $6 billion, $8 billion. Like billions of dollars went to make a high-speed train. It never happened. Really? And nobody talks about it anymore. There's a lot of... Think about that every time someone wins a lottery.

A billion dollars, half a million, half a billion goes to the government. And where's that? What's a lot of tax dollars do? That's crazy. And you're not even asking them to give us the money. Just keep the water. Keep the water. Don't let the water drain to the ocean.

Just keep it in reservoir. Keep to talk, please. All of it. I know it doesn't make sense. Someone told me we drink tap water in this house. And someone told me this morning to not drink the tap water. Did we hear this? Because I keep drinking it. I know. It doesn't make sense. Someone told me, we drink tap water in this house, and someone told me this morning to not drink the tap water. Did we hear this? Because I keep drinking it.

Well, with the fires, the air pollution is bad. And some of the water pollution, not necessarily ours. Should we get water filters? I'm scared now. But some places, everything that got burned is now going to go down to the ground, to the waterways. Okay. But should we stop drinking the tap water?

I don't know. Tell us in the comments. You tell me. Because you're the one that got me drinking the tap water? I don't know. Tell us in the comments. You tell me because you're the one that got me on the tap water kick and now that I'm drinking it and Malibu drinks it. We can filter it.

We probably should. I got scared. No, you didn't tell me this. But the source of our water is not like from the fire zone. And I've been drinking so much of it. By the way, side note,

got Moses food this morning when I ordered from Brent's. There you go. We'd love to see it. We'd love to see it. He has matzo ball soup down there. Well, I had to get pancakes for a brand deal I did this morning. And so I was like, well, I'm going to order pancakes.

And then I was like, well, I know he likes matzo ball. I got chicken fingers. I got fries. I got a waffle. I was like, all right. So he did eat it. Update on that, I guess. It's all because of the fires, you see.

People are nicer. That's true. Brent's was packed. We went Friday. That was like overflowing with people. I've never seen so many people. I guess we're so close to Malibu. People are like over here.

Our hotels are at full capacity. Like it is actually. Oh, yeah. Everyone's coming over this way. I won't say who, but we did ran into someone that I've talked not nice about on the podcast. It's the most terrifying thing in real life. And you know they know you and vice versa. It's not someone like super famous.

But oh man, I saw as soon as we drove, I saw him. And I was just like, wait, is that? And I was like, yeah. I didn't even want to go in. I was like, because you know with Brents, you have to do like a walk-in. And he was waiting outside. I was like, I don't even want to walk in. Luckily, we had a hat in the back.

I'm like, give me a hat. So I'm like, what about the hat? I'm holding Malibu, like shielding me. I'm just walking straight past. And. I'm like, give me a hat. So I went with a hat. I'm holding Malibu, shielding me. I'm just walking straight past. And then I was like, did he see? Did he look up? He was looking down, too. Everyone is avoiding.

And then I put my name in for the list, Trish. And then he put his name in. So we both heard the names being called. And Brent, there's long booths where you can sit next to each other. I was like, oh, my god. What if he's there god what if you say we did it however right by the cash register so when he was paying the bill i was like right there i just like looked down i'm just like oh my god it's like so weird to like be around someone that you've and he's definitely like an enemy like he's definitely not like wait say it we'll bleep it oh whatever about him

no i know he's someone where i'm, I don't regret talking bad about him. But it is an awkward thing, especially because he was like his elderly parents and, you know, his kid. And I'm just like, okay, so this is awkward. But yeah, I didn't care. It's just more like, is there going to be confrontation? Not with him, I guess. But you just never know.

I was like, but we've seen him so much. Like I've seen him like air – like I've seen him so many places. Santa. He just doesn't do much other than his podcast. Well, don't give away too many clues. I don't care. I really don't care. But it is kind of, it is a little, let me just avoid it. Just seeing people, I'm just always like, oh, let me

avoid everything. I'm the opposite. I love, you know, that's my dream. I am manifest for that. I don't know if that's true. You saw Cody Cohen said nothing to him. But the thing is, if I went up to someone that we talked about, I feel like I'm the bully, like I'm the aggressor. I'm the bully. But but if they come to me i don't think it's a bully if you just confront them like i wish i could go up to this person and be like you're gross but it's not like it's bullying that's like i do kind of feel like it's punching down though because like think about

it everyone we talked about has already been like cody co's been canceled right so then if i went out to him someone who's you know it's pretty much been canceled it's not like he's a david dobrik who's getting like 10 million views or whatever so to me it comes across like punching down versus if he did it to me i'm like okay well game on you know what i mean okay what do you think about did you see the alec baldwin clip that went viral this no someone was it was in new york and someone was like basically with an iphone being like you know you want to lie to somebody how are are you not in jail? Like, how are you still walking? You want to lie?

Like they kept doing it and he was ignoring. He was ignoring. They follow him out. He's like waiting for a car or something like that. They keep mentioning that incident, but there was something else too. I can't remember what they mentioned. Something else that he did. And then that got him to like punch them.

And so do you think, and God, I want to say it was like. It always happens with him. I think people target him because he has a temper. He has a temper. But I think it was like Candace Owens. I don't follow her, but on TikTok, she pops up sometimes. I think it was like Candace Owens who's like, I don't, or maybe someone like on Fox News. They're like, oh, I don't disagree with what Alec did. Like they were kind of on his side because the person was so pestering. So then I went to the comments and all the comments were like on Alec's side too, being like, well, that person was annoying. So it's like at what point, because it is so true, right? What if this person, and we don't know how long it went on. It was like well that person was annoying so it's like at what point because it is so true right what if this person and we don't know how

long it went on it was obviously inside and then outside but it's like what if someone just harasses you i mean gosh you can't punch someone but it's also like at what point does it just be like okay stop and is it warranted is alex baldwin's i don't know i don't know i guess it depends on like the extent of it does seem like just like harassment at that point right like can you get in trouble like i think it also depends like i think we talked about before there is like that thing about fighting words but i think it has to be like very very incendiary like almost like if someone was coming up to me and was like very homophobic or something you know then that is right so i guess it depends on what exactly was being said because i don't feel like i don't know if that would technically be fighting words under – I mean – but also it's just things that can be argued in court.

Like fighting words isn't like the ultimate defense, but it is something that can be argued as a defense, you know? And I'm sure Alec Baldwin, as we've seen, has a great lawyer. Yeah, that's true. He does get off of it for sure. I mean that was wild. And the guy is like so old. I mean not to like give him a pass, but like he's like – Alec or the guy yelling?

Alec. Oh, okay. Right? I mean, he's like – He's old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 70 years. He's like he's old.

Who was the person yelling? Was it someone younger or – I think it was a woman. Oh, really? And they didn't show because they were filming. But it sounded like a woman was just like, hey, like, you know, like harassing him. I don't know. Maybe – but like it sounded like a woman.

But then also to punch a woman would be actually kind of crazy. Yeah. Maybe like a shove. I don't know. It was definitely aggressive where the phone like fell and broke. So maybe they just took it. I don't know. That is like such a tough one.

I think he has a temper. So people set him up and confront. Because I've seen so many of those clips with him. Right. He was doing pretty good in this clip until like something they said. I forgot what it was. But maybe it was about like Hilaria

which by the way is she Spanish or no? That's the whole other thing. She's not? I don't know. I don't think so technically but she has like an accent. I know there was one viral clip

where she forgot how to say the word onions in English. And in Spanish though. Because the guy told her also in Spanish oh yeah this too

and it's like how did you forget it in both I mean it is wild though why is she doing that I don't know I mean for so long maybe it's a memory issue

huh maybe she has a memory problem I don't it's just but like the faking accent's crazy because everyone's saying she's from Boston yeah

and I get it if you're trying to be like Michaela and like do like a thick Boston accent and you're exaggerating that but like you just pick a whole different

I mean that's like if you just pick a whole different. I mean, that's like if you just start speaking like Ricky Ricardo and it's like super Cuban all of a sudden, which is like not bad, but it's wild. It's not authentic. Yeah. Not authentic. Right. Yeah. I would love that if you just started speaking.

Honestly, me too. Does your dad have a Cuban accent? No, my mom used to. Oh, she's Cuban. My mom is Cuban. Yeah. And she kind mom used to um she's cuban my mom is cuban yeah and she kind of used to and in spanish my dad says that she has like a really cuban accent because the way they speak spanish is a

little bit different yeah so my dad used to like tease her about like the way that she speaks spanish like very cuban because my dad's peruvian so it's just like a different like a little bit different kind of spanish yeah um but they don't really have an accent. My grandparents all had really thick accents. Yeah. I love a thick accent. Like I like it. It's just funny that she – but also like if I just started speaking in an accent,

like do people just have to accept it? Do you know what I mean? Like that is kind of crazy to just start speaking in – Like I feel like that happens kind of frequently though too. Like who is it there's like a um Dorit on the Real Housewives I haven't watched it in a while Real Housewives of Beverly Hills but she kind of has this like European kind of accent but she just travels to Europe a lot so like everyone at the beginning I remember when she first she won the show everyone's like why

does she talk like this she's from like the new england area but she has like this weird mix and she's like atlantic yeah it's like a weird chance yeah i mean people do develop i mean i don't know like i feel like there are certain people who do have that like weird accent and it's like that's i guess if you travel a lot you pick them up i guess i don't know like wherever you're at well you're gonna come back from your tour have the craziest just from the uS.? Because you are kind of like a mirror, though. Like, you know what I mean? That's true. Like, you do reflect your surroundings a lot.

So it'll be very interesting. I do have a – I'm going quickly to another country and coming back. And I'm just like, oh, I wonder who will come back with an accent. It very well might happen. That's true. I mean, in the Celebrity Brotherhood House, I remember I had like a little bit of an accent. You just start picking up the dialect. It's like a sponge.

Maybe I will. Maybe Madonna. Just have a little British accent. I like start picking up the dialect. It's like a sponge. Maybe I will. Be Madonna. Just have a little British accent. I like accents. It's cute. Hilarious is cute. Maybe – I have a theory she probably met Alec that way once up because he talks about it as if she's had it forever.

Oh. Maybe you're right. You know? So she can't change. That's a good theory. That is a good theory. Because he'll say like, oh, you know, when I met her – he did like – he even did her accent in like interviews.

You know, she's Spanish or whatever. And I was just like, so maybe he just met her that way and she can't change it. Does she talk like that around her kids? Yeah. That's a good theory. She just has to commit at this point. I want to interview her. I would love.

I think we talked about this before. I don't remember. Do you remember Flula? Yes. His accent was fake. Really? Did we talk about this before? I don't think so.

We talked about it a long time ago. On the pot or just in life um i've never heard it because he was always on but you know he was this german youtuber who was like super german like he's like uh i don't want to do it because i don't want to be like offensive or anything but he was like in pitch perfect like he would clap with every single person and he was super super german had a very thick german accent and um literally everyone i knew was like oh it's fake like people who are really close to him i was like that's definitely a fake accent he just speaks regular girl all the time and i was like, oh, it's fake. Like people who are really close to him was like, that's definitely a fake accent.

He just speaks regular all the time. And I was like, oh, that's. Well, he fooled me. I literally, I just saw a TikTok of him last night. No way. It was like an old clip. You know that trend right now where like they take a clip

and then they like have the inspirational music and then the text over like different landscapes. There was one of him. What was it? I forget what it was, but the clip was, oh, it was about Santa Claus is coming to town. It was saying that

why like Santa's a stalker. Why are you coming? And it was definitely old because it seemed like the Vine days. It looked like an old Vine or something. He was kind of big on Vine, I think. Yeah.

That's random. That's the first time I've seen him in a long time. I wonder if he's like still making contact because he was doing like movies. He kind of got into movies for a minute. And he kind of was big.

He was kind of on Conan. He was kind of everywhere. Yeah. It was interesting. But I guess it worked. I mean, I guess people were like, even me, I think I did a collab with him. And I was just like, oh my god, I'm German. I don't know.

People were so into it. I don't know. It's a novelty. But then everyone's like, no, it's definitely fake. I was like, all right. Flula, wherever you are, come out. I'm pretty sure I deleted it. I'm pretty sure that was probably an offensive one.

I think we were doing like German slang or something like that. I was in like a Liedenhausen. We were talking about David Hasselhoff. Oh, and he was. He also played dumb. Like not only was he German, but I remember he played dumb. He's like, well, I guess his accent was fake, but he was just very like, oh, I don't know who this is.

Like I don't know. He was very that where I would like show him pictures of people he's like and then he would say something like it's David Hasselhoff he's like no I don't know who he has like a very I don't know like cut it for the German accent nobody in Germany care you know what Germans are cool not to say we obviously don't culture appropriate but Germans people are very cool I feel like they just take it take what what are they taking they've been humbled so they just kind of like yeah you know how you can be like all right well i'll take some jokes you know what i mean i think they can take some jokes any country that was a big villain in a world war it's not

their fault it's also a long time ago oh my god they're still paying for it in 2024 oh my god we are in 2025 damn why does why does it start off so crazy why is 2025 we came back last week and i was like wow we're back it's good and then literally the next day we know who came back david and the fires and all of it david went under the radar because of everything happening. No one talked about David. Probably for the better. I did see it a lot on Twitter, but I mean, he didn't even really win over the gays, which is kind of shocking because I feel like the gays, I mean, we love like abs, you know what

I mean? Like love a boy with abs. But even David, his little transformation couldn't get the gay attention. And that's kind of saying something. I hate to say this, but I kind of felt a little bit bad for David getting body shamed so badly. Like people were like, wow, he's still that face though. You know, people were still so mean. Well, that's not body shaming.

Well, they were like, no. But a lot of people also being like, why does he still look weird? Like people were just being so, and I'm like, oh, like I mean, I get it. He's awful. Like I literally think he's the devil amongst us. But also just like, damn, you like work so hard. You're so excited to show off this transformation. Everyone's just like, you look weird.

That's crazy. People – I didn't see one nice comment. Everyone's just like – I guess the way he did it too, like showing off to his friend. Like it was weird. But people were just going in. I was like, damn, I've never seen someone like get fit and people like be like hate it i was like he looked better before i was like damn i was like i wasn't expecting that because when i saw even when we watched it the first time i was like wow he looks pretty good this is pretty

unbelievable and everyone is just like no you look weird i think the big thing – the theme I saw was that it almost looked like an AI or like they put – there was one tweet. I hate to laugh at it, but it was like a head transplant. Yes. The first person to survive a head transplant. I'm like, damn. It was – yeah. Here's the thing though. He did the like bodybuilder – and this is what Ilya does, I guess, for his transformations. He does like the bodybuilder hack that they do on like body competitions where they do

that crazy tanner. And it just looks nuts. Like there's. Right. It works for like the body competition shows because that's what they do, you know. But just to run around and show everyone and do it like a video with the crazy dark like self tanner. Yeah.

It just looks nuts no matter what you do you know yeah the face didn't match he didn't have a good what is it foundation or if i was gonna read i can talk about that line on someone's neck it was nasty yeah like the face it's just the face didn't match it's just a bad makeup yeah right right right but i i mean i think he's a bad person i think he's a cute boy or like he's a cute guy he's yeah i think he's a cutie um i don't think he's ugly that's why even jeff like i couldn't really get behind the jeff tweet was like you should have done your hair i was like well he could you know why didn't he just go full you know get a full hair transplant you just go full

makeover i'm surprised he didn't i mean you know what i mean because everyone gets it i'm like everyone gets the hair transplant. He easily caught off. I feel like he should have. That would have gone the extra mile. Then he would have had Jeff in his tweets. You know what I mean? Jeff would have come up with something else.

Yeah, he can no longer get him for that. You need to learn from, who is it, Matt Rife? Oh, yeah. It's a little bit. It's a little bit. Someone else got a hair transplant. Oh, that guy from Secret Lives in Mormon Wines, Dakota. He got a hair transplant. Oh, yeah. Everyone will be getting it. I'll probably get one at some point. They look good. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Someone else got a hair transplant. Oh, the guy from Secret Lives in Mormon Wines, Dakota. He got a hair transplant.

Oh, yeah. Everyone will be getting it. I'll probably get one at some point. They look good. I would love to. My forehead goes really far back. I would love to. It just looks like it hurts a little bit.

Like, is it needling? You know who de-influenced me was Gigi when she was here. Oh, yes. Because she talked about how bloody it was and the scabbing and stuff and how it was gross. So she kind of de-influenced me. But on the opposite side, she looks great. Yeah, I know.

Everyone is because Manny got it. I think Jeffrey's got it. Like they all do look pretty good. I think everyone says Andrew Garfield went to Turkey to get it done. I think it's just a narrative. I don't know if the turkey is verified. It does look like he did something, but he looks great. I'm going to Turkey this week.

I'm speaking Turkish. That's what I'm coming back to. He does look good. Yeah, it is. God, cute. Yeah. Hair is such Turkish. That's what I'm coming back to. He does look good. I, yeah, it is cute. Yeah. Hair is such a funny one because it does change you so much. That's why I love wigs because it's like, it changes your look so much. And then when I don't have a wig, it's like, oh my God, I have no hair.

I'm like, well, you know, not that I have no hair, but there's like balding spots and there's like my hairline going back and it does change you so much. Um, and when everyone gets, it's like boob implants. When everyone starts getting them done, you're like, well, mine look bad now in comparison. Yeah. So – And every time someone gets it done, they're like, oh, my God, you look great, you know? I know.

So it's like, damn. Maybe David should have. The healing thing though, I guess – because, I mean, he was filming that whole time. So maybe he couldn't get it done and heal for like a couple months. He could have waited a couple more months for his return. You know what I mean? I feel – was it Zayn, I think, got it a couple times and like didn't work i think he did it i don't know if zane did i know for sure he did it because he did it a couple times okay and i think it like didn't work really times i think i feel

like it's supposed to like he's got it yeah he's got it yeah i think that was a really good success right now i've seen so it's crazy if it didn't work but i remember he like he documented it like maybe i don't know if it was a work but i remember he like he documented it like maybe i don't know if it was a sponsorship or something but he did like a couple dedicated videos about it i would do it for a sponsorship yeah me too i need to get all of it done mike did it for sponsorship we saw that mike malek oh yeah he went to turkey everyone does get it done that is crazy because people are so mean like people are just like oh my god you're like that dakota i was just like i didn't know his hair was thinning and everyone's just like so mean

david too like i get it like he's awful and like i don't mind jeff taking jabs because like i would too like i would do anything because you just ruin my life but you know in general i never noticed david's hair is thinning but i guess he puts it forward he was a hat a lot yeah that's how i feel for him like this i'm the same i'll get it done at some point. I'm sure David will get it done at some point. But you can't facelift your soul. I'm working. Oh, is that good? I was trying to workshop it in my head.

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When is it okay to body shame? Maybe. Make them feel something. You know? I don't know. That's true. Is it okay? I don't know. I kind of feel like anything kind of – I don't know. Me personally – actually, no. I was going to say I don't do that, but Matt Rife, I did face shame Matt Rife. I guess you shouldn't because ultimately, what if they took it personally and something bad happened? Maybe that's their origin story. Maybe that's how they became the villain that they are. Yeah.

I guess on one hand, it's like, okay, taste of your own medicine. On the other hand, what if they're not mentally well? Then you just push them over the edge. So maybe don't. Maybe. But in my defense, Matt Rife was making fun of people who have mental disabilities and women's vaginas and this, that, and the third.

So then it's like, well, if you're going to say someone has an ugly vagina, then I feel like anything kind of goes. Who was it about? It was on that podcast. Was it Brooke? I was just saying her vagina was an outie or something. Like, her vagina was out.

Just out? Just an outie vagina. If you're going to make fun of someone's, like, things that people can't change, then it's like, okay, well, then I'll make fun of your face. That's botched. Do you know what I mean? I guess that was the theory behind David, which is like, what I'm saying some of it I was kind of like yeah I get him but that's kind of like I hope he's okay like I hope he's not like you know I don't know especially when you go through a trip we talk about this like I couldn't imagine like losing

100 pounds and thinking like oh my god everyone's gonna love this and like look at all the brand deals coming my way and then people just like ew like and you just psychologically went through so much you're just like that's true so but also don't hurt yourself but yeah yeah like i said earlier like if something bad happens like mr beast or whatever i would still feel bad you know like yeah i think it just like sucks when like someone's like not listening and not like getting while they're a bad person so people are just like okay let's try a different way and i like get it but at some point someone's just never gonna take accountability. And I think David's one of those people. And it's just like, all right, we just need to stop screaming at him. But also, not to like go back on David too much, but then I didn't see the full vlog.

And then I saw another clip. I think Adam was reacting to it or someone. And I didn't realize how badly he was talking about it. It was like before body, which was a normal like body. But he's like oh my god i'm such a fat i'm a yeah and ilia was like oh my god how did you let yourself go like this which is crazy that was he just looked normal literally so normal like not even overweight just like didn't work out and i was like then it's like so triggering for everyone that's like

watching that because again he has a big guy audience and not every guy is going to be like ripped or whatever. No. And there's a lot of girls I see on TikTok that love David. Like I don't care what anyone says. Like love David. Like there's a lot of girls who love him too. And it's just like – I mean at the end of the day, he is fat phobic. Like he would always call – he called everyone in that group fat at some point.

Oh my god. You're actually so right. Yeah. He's very fat phobic. So maybe he has his own self-hatred. Maybe his parents – like I'm not sure what. But he like hates fat people for sure. So I'm sure he thought in his head he was fat.

You're so right. Anyone who wasn't like ripped, like their character, like one of their character traits was just being a fatty and eating. Yeah. Even like the guys that like weren't that fat. You're so right. I didn't even clock that. Whoa, you blew my mind.

It's crazy. He thought he was better than everyone before. Now he definitely thinks he's like God's status. He's like, I'm no longer fat. Look at me. Give him a year. No. It's only because he likes to eat because he said that was the hard part was his dieting.

And it's like, yeah. And I'm not like wishing fatness on anyone, but. No, but it doesn't matter because the transformation works only for like that shocking, the first shock moment. But then what? You know, like look at Nikocado. It's like, okay, he did that transformation. That's it.

You got to bring something else to the table. Moving back to normal. You know, it's like everyone gets used to it and that's it. I know. I keep telling him I want to go on GLP-1 Moses. I'm like, why? He was 100 pounds. Like, then what?

Then you gain it back. I'm like, I'm not going to gain back 100 pounds. No, I didn't say that you gain it back. You did because you're like, you have to be on that prep. I was like, no, if I lose 100 pounds, I'm going to be able to maintain it. If you're willing to commit to something you're going to take forever, that's a different story. No, but you don't need to because your stomach will shrink. If you lose 100 pounds, your stomach shrinks.

You could gain it back, but it would take time. It's not going to take me 100 pounds in a year because your stomach's small. When I lose a little weight, I go. Nothing we talk about is a matter of a year. It's a matter of sustaining something that's sustainable. You lose it slowly and if you lose it slowly in a sustainable way you'll keep it but if you not anytime soon but i'm doing it going on tour i need my energy i'm scared to be sick but all right well we love jell-o not sponsored by rota day but i can't wait to hit them up be like i'll take some of that, actually.

I wonder if they, like, increase if I actually, like, use it and lose weight. Do we get a promo? A bump, yeah. Yeah, like Trim Spot with Anna Nicole. Right, usually when you lose weight, after the fact, they come to you, like, hey, say that you'd use this one or that one. But I would use it because, I mean, sure, they'll give it to us for free. It's the most accessible, yeah.

Yeah. I feel a little bad for David, but, you know, it's fine. He's kind of an awful person still, so. Okay, it's, I said documentary is getting leaked. Do you see another clip? Oh, there's another clip. There's another clip where David, I think maybe this one's been up before, but it's like a longer version where he said like, it's not fun unless someone gets hurt. You seen that one? No. And it's like them in the back of their like studio city house. And now he's like, yeah, he's like, do you ever say no to David? She's like, yeah, I'm like the safety person. I say no to him a lot. Oh, my God. And yeah.

They were doing like a weird stunt in the pool. And he's just – yeah. That's when he's just like, yeah. It's just like not fun until like someone gets really seriously hurt or something. And even Jeff is like, David's so lucky. Like in this clip, he's like he has the best luck of anybody. Like it's really like eerie and ominous. It's – I just – that documentary should just like come out. Who is leaking it?

Probably Casey. I was going to say like because I – like the timing is so odd right and it's not like it's um i guess there was like a digital screener um for south by southwest that's how people like were able to watch it but don't you think it would have like leaked if someone like screen recorded it or something right it would have leaked when it was fresh right when jeff was like just turning around and now it's happening now yeah um maybe jeff he had access to the screener i want to get to the bottom of it i don't know any of this by the way i don't think it's jeff because i wanted him to send me it and he was like scared i was gonna leak it i was like just send it to me you know

what i mean but i wish we would have probably but yeah i wanted to react to it on patreon just like just like pausing and then like saying what just happened rather than like obviously sharing it to everybody but um i know because even in the episode i was scared to put the clip the leaked clip in as b-roll like in the episode oh interesting yeah even like spill session and put it in her video and i feel like because i was i was thinking i had the pre the pre pre-thought premonition i was like wait if i post this and then he like claims it or something then the whole thing is gone then i'll lose it and then i was like seeing i was like is anyone else using this and then i saw her tiktok but and she like had a photo of her tiktok

but she didn't put the actual clip so i'm like damn if even she's afraid to put it in then i don't think I should. Well, good call on that one. If there's a leaked content or hacked content, you shouldn't show it. Well, that's why we need TikTok, because how else are we going to get leaked content? Can't put it anywhere else.

Yeah, it is crazy. I guess TikTok is kind of crazy that way, where there's not really regulations. It is. I mean, the downside too is people people post like all of Wicked. Like people are in there filming Wicked on their phones. Really? And they're posting like Wicked in 50 parts like as it comes out. Oh, that's crazy.

So that's like the downside of it. But then there is the power of like, you know, people spreading news and stuff. And I think that is a good part about TikTok is like, you know, the power is in the hands of the people to spread different stories. Again, for better or worse, because sometimes people be coming up TikTok is like, you know, the power is in the hands of the people to spread different stories. Again, for better or worse, because sometimes people be coming up with crazy things, you know, but. But I think for the more better, like we said at the beginning, there's a lot of like worse out there, but I feel like better.

It's like there's so much more like awareness. Things go viral quicker. And I don't know anyone who's not pro TikTok. Honestly, yeah. Who's platform? Besides like, obviously, the Supreme Court. Is that who's stopping it? I'm scared to go against popular demand.

You know what I mean? Like, just with everything happening, it's like, just go with the flow. Like, go with what the people want. Do we vote them in or they're elected by the president? The Supreme Court? By the president, I believe. So they don't care what we say? Right, you have to be chosen.

Yeah. Is there a new Supreme Court every four years? No. Oh, really? Until you die. Wait, what? You have to be chosen. Yeah. Is there a new Supreme Court every four years? No. Oh, really? Until you die. Wait, what? You get appointed for life. So who appointed the Supreme Court there now? Like Lyndon B. Johnson? Well, the Republicans were lucky that two passed away when they were. Lucky. That's wild to say about someone that passed away. Because that's how it works. The Supreme Court can be either... One vote can change the whole Supreme Court

to be more liberal or more conservative. Who instituted the Supreme Court right now? It's over the years, over many, many years. Okay, but who's the oldest? Nixon? Nixon uprooted someone? How far? They're old.

There's some 80s... Like Ronald Reagan put someone in there? Probably. So they're old. They're all old. There's a lot of oldies in there for sure. But then. That's why.

So that's why they hate TikTok. Because it's wild. I'm like, who's going against us? Like, you know, like that's just crazy. Yikes. This is our political episode. This is the most political we'll ever get. It's always two dumbasses telling each other exactly.

I'm like, mm-hmm. Yeah. You can do so many things. I'm like, mm-hmm, yeah. You can do so many things, but once you touch TikTok, we turn political. Because no one ever talks about the logistics of it, like who's actually banning us. I'm sure some people do, but yeah. Wow. I think he did. Well, just because the app is controlled, but not by our government.

So that's why. All right. Controlled, but not by our government. Got it why all right controlled but not by our government got it yeah well we the thing is they want to they want to because even if the government if if they offer that the u.s will buy tiktok here it just won't work because the algorithm is a is a worldwide algorithm so once we have our own algorithm it just won't be tiktok anymore it just becomes like something else you know because it won't work as well anymore so that's crazy but the rest of the world will still have tiktoks like london and it's kind of like when twitter went down for

brazil i believe oh yeah like brazilians couldn't access twitter anymore and brazilians are a huge part of twitter really yeah you know all the tweets like come to brazil you know no i'm sure if you check you brazilians are being like, come to Brazil, Trisha. Perform in Brazil. I've never once seen that. There's a big, like, they're just big. It's a big stand-up culture. Like, there's a big, for like a lot of the comic book movies, a lot of singers and stuff.

Yeah. I think they got it. They got access back, but they were gone for a while. And it was sad. Very much the vibe with TikTok. They had like their goodbye parties and stuff. And they were just going down one by one. When did this happen?

It was a couple months ago. It was last year. What? But I think. They're back? I think they either. I'm not familiar with like what the change was, like obviously with the government. But I know that they found they either are allowed to be back or found a way to come back.

Wow. They're like, we're here. We're back. We're back. We're back. Shout out Brazil. Let come back. Wow. They're like, we're here. We came back. Shout out Brazil. Let us know. Clap if you're from Brazil.

No one claps. I would love to know. I would love to know anybody watching in Brazil. Not on Twitter. Obrigado, Brazil. Obrigado? Is that Portuguese?

You know Portuguese? That's all I know. How do you know that? That's so random. How did you learn that? I don't know one portuguese word that's cool trilingual yeah too i would i really want to get better at spanish we should do that together that could be our goal is to learn spanish every week that has been my goal i've been buying every single learn spanish that i really would love to i feel like hard know. I feel like my brain wants to.

Like, because my mom's caretaker only speaks Spanish. And she. And it's so hard because I feel like I come across so rude because I can't respond to her. And I'm trying so hard. Like, and I understand what she's saying. Like, by. Because I understand enough to know the sentence and like the context. But then not being able to reply. Like, I just feel so bad because she's saying like by because i understand enough to know the sentence and like the context but

then not being able to reply like i just feel so bad because she's so sweet and like every time i'm there she's like trying to talk to me and i'm i'm struggling so i really want to learn can you do a little bit a little bit like i i think she was talking to me about my laundry the other day because i left it in the dryer or something so she she was just like, oh, like I folded it for you. And I understood like laundry. Yeah. And then she pointed to the laundry. So I'm like, I know what you're saying.

And I was like, um, which is gracias. You know, I was like, that'd be sweet. That is good. I'm trying to learn too. I swear my Malibu can speak Spanish. Like she's like, so like she picks up everything from Dora or just people around it. Because anyone around that speaks Spanish, I'm always like, do you speak Spanish, Dora? You know, whatever.

Because she like soaks it up so well. Like she'll – there's certain songs she sings in different languages and she just like starts – and I'm just like – she'll just be around the house speaking like a different language. I was like, how do you know? Because like at that age, she like soaks it up so well. And I was just like, gosh, I'm so jealous. So that's one thing I wish – I guess if you're a kid, you should probably teach

your kid and you know a different language. I know. That is the best time to learn. I wish I wasn't a brat when I was little. But, you know, what can you do? A lesson learned for my future children. Yeah, because Darian speaks it, right? Yeah, Darian's fluent.

That's his first language. Spanish and Chinese, actually. Mandarin Chinese is the number one language spoken in the world. In my high school, those were the three languages we could take were Spanish, Mandarin, and French. French is wild. We were offered French, too, and I was like, I don't know anyone who speaks French except for my one friend who's from France. Honestly, I don't know if I know anyone who speaks French either. Yeah.

It's pretty close to Spanish, so. Kind of. There's some words that are very similar. Like the same – I took Italian in college for – I don't even know why. That's crazy. I think – I literally think – and this is how dumb I was. I was like, Lizzie McGuire went to Italy. I want to learn Italian.

Oh, same, same. Yeah. No, someone went somewhere else. I'm like, yeah, I want to learn that too. Italian is cool. I – like sometimes in Italian restaurants people speak it. Like the service people. Like they'll speak it, which is like so cool.

It's like, wow, you know Italian. Or like the menu at the real Italian places will be in Italian. I was like, ooh. Yeah. Actually, I always like, ooh. Yeah. Actually, I always talk about this, but the one time I went on a date with Fabio, he spoke Italian and he ordered stuff off the menu on Italian. It wasn't a date. It was like a family group date. And that was in the Palisades. But it was,

he was speaking Italian and I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. I guess he is from Italy, but it is pretty impressive. I never hear about him. Where's Fabio? That's a good question. It's crazy. Like, where do people go? Do you know what I mean? Like, how come no one sees him? And Fabio is very, like, iconic.

How come no one reports on him or sees him? Maybe they just think no one cares. Really? Yeah, I've probably seen him. I care so much about Fabio. I don't understand. Like, even before I met him for my music, I was just like, that's crazy no one talks about him. If you saw him down the street, we would take a picture and post it and say,

Yeah, it's like you see Britney and you don't really say anything. That's true. But it's Britney and she's iconic always. But I guess you're right. I guess you're right. I just was like, who is predicting Jenna Marbles come back this year? Because no one really talks about her either. But someone's like, I bet Jenna Marbles will come back this year.

Or like a 2025 prediction would love. But I feel like that's – Not going to happen? I mean, crazier things have happened. Like, I'm fascinated what she does in her day-to-day. Because I know what you're saying. Like people just like exist. But it's usually people who like had – you know, they've been 40 years in their career

and they just like retire. Like Fabio was like modeling for a song. Not to say Jenna like wasn't impactful, but it's like she's so young still. So it's like what do you do in your day-to-day when you're retired as such a young person? I'm sure she's still keeping herself busy with – like she loves like dogs and stuff. Like I'm sure she's still keeping herself busy with, like, she loves, like, dogs and stuff. Like, I'm sure she's keeping herself busy with, like, that. And Julian is obviously still very much a content creator,

so maybe she does stuff with them, like, behind the scenes with, like, clothing brands and stuff. Like, almost like a Hoda. You know, like, Hoda retired from Today Show, but she's still doing stuff behind the scenes. But Hoda's been there for 40 years. That's what I'm saying. Like, I think at that point, you're like, I'm tired. Like'm tired like i just need to like rest but i think a lot of young influencers they didn't come to it from like a perspective like this is what i want to do in life i want

to be a lawyer a doctor they became influencers and then some people just opted out but they still they work maybe they went to school maybe they have a business but most businesses are not online you don't see what people do so most. You don't see what people do. So most people don't see what they do every day. I want to know like her thoughts on Barstool. She's like the original Barstool girl. And I'm like, I want to know what Dave Kortner was like when she was working there. That's probably why she's staying away.

That's true, I guess. God, there's so much I need to hear from her, you know? And it's like, where is Jenna Marbles right now? That's crazy. Well, okay. I hope she's okay. Yeah yeah i'm sure she is because um like julian is still like i think he mentions her sometimes and like in passing very lightly you know um so because he still streams he still does like but isn't that also weird like i mean

you're a streamer and like you know you just share your life and you only mention her briefly like a couple times you know what i mean like that would be so hard to like when you see someone every single day how do you not mention them so much like every day? Like, oh, me and Jenna today. Oh, we mentioned this, you know, whatever. I think some people are just good at setting boundaries, you know? That's crazy because there's boundaries and then you're just talking about your life. Like me and my wife, you know, whatever, we did this.

It's like so crazy when people like act like they don't exist. I mean there's other people who do that too online where they act like they don't have a spouse or something. I guess. Maybe it's more of you respecting her wishes yeah for sure i get that but like also it's just like how do you not talk about someone you see every single day i think some people are just better at not oversharing or sharing too much because i mean there is still a lot of like what's also easier when you're doing an activity on stream like if you're playing a game you can talk about that you know versus like just sitting for three hours and talking about like thoughts on random news stories and your life updates you

know but even when we just talk about like news stories i still i'm always referencing moses like and i guess we hear i always reference moses because he's just here all the time like how are you not supposed to reference somebody that's like always there i don't know and it's not even like oversharing it's just like oh yeah mostly tell you like i don't know you just like often bring up somebody i guess i don't know i predict that maybe there'll be either an old platform a new platform that one day will offer her like here 50 million dollars come back you know make a podcast lost her marbles or something and that's a good name and she will come back i think if she gets like a big offer you can't refuse maybe i need to go away so i get a big offer, you can't refuse. Maybe I need to go away so I can get a big offer.

Nobody would care. If I left for like six months, people would be like, I don't care anymore. I wonder if people would. Do you ever think that? Like, would people care if I like left for like six months? Or like – because some people leave and everyone's like, where are you? We miss you. And then some people leave and like, we didn't care.

I think if you just randomly disappeared on your own terms. I feel like the people that they – the general public doesn't care about are the people who were forced out, you know, and then they left because no one liked them anymore. Versus like, if you got if you got on a high, like Margot Robbie took a big backseat after Barbie. And I feel like if she came back, people would be like, we missed you so much, you know. So it depends on the circumstances of your exit, I think, like David. I mean, some people I guess really didn't miss him, but a lot of the times it was like, good, you're snapping, you know? Yeah, yeah. Stay on Snapchat.

Yeah. Sometimes we say, like we talk about people that we always saw and suddenly we remember that we forgot. Yeah. Like, oh, that person, we used to see them all the time. Where did they go? Yeah, there are so many people that you're just like, where did they go? Sometimes you just forget. Like you said, you kind of forget about them all together. I was like, oh my God, that person. I forgot about that person we used to see them all the time where did they go yeah there are so many people that you're just like where did they go sometimes you just forget like you said you kind of forget about them all together i was like oh my god that person i forgot about that person

which is scary to me that's what i'm saying we might be like that like i disappear for a year and then they're like oh where'd she go i forgot about her like oh my god that'd be crazy that's so scary to think about right just like people especially you because you've kind of just always been around whether people cared or not. That's the fear. And then I'm not running. We're like, we don't care. Because I like the idea of like disappearing in the sense of I am still well. But also people are like, where's Trish?

I love when – because I do get jealous when people are like, where is this person? We miss them. You know what I mean? Like I do get jealous a little bit of that. But I can't be gone long enough to be missed, I guess. I fear I'll always be here. Sometimes when you don't Instagram story for like two days, I'm like, what's going on? Cause you are very on it. Yeah. This, this weekend I was like, I don't really know what to post. Like I try and post what can help, but then I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. It is hard to navigate that. Yeah. I just never want to cross,

come across inauthentic, but I don't want to come across like not caring. It's so hard. It's so difficult. So I try and post some things here and there. But yeah, it feels weird to just be like, here's my mac and cheese. Yeah, that's how I felt too. It was very overwhelming. It's like I didn't know – again, just not knowing what to post, still processing everything

that's going on here. It is very overwhelming so I give props to everyone who was like able to mobilize right away because I am not the type to mobilize right away I am like I need to sit and process for like three days because this is kind of traumatic and then figure out what to do no of course I feel like trauma everyone is just like deals with it differently me I have to fully bubble myself and not being like ignorant to it it's just like more like mentally I would like actually like spiral. So I think I'm aware, but Moses has to look at things more than me because I would literally spiral. Like I was at the dentist when all the false

alarms were going off. Everyone in LA got the alarm, like evacuation your area. So I was at the dentist when that happened. So like everyone's phones went off. It was like beep, beep, beep. People are running to get home. I'm like sitting there with my mouth open. I have nine cavities. So there's just like holes in my mouth. And everyone's like, we have to, people are leaving, like literally leaving. And the only two people left are the people like working on my mouth. And I was just like, are we supposed to go home? It's getting dark outside. I was just like, they're like, we can't like, we have to finish these holes in your mouth. And I was just like freaking out all of the stuff. And it's just like one of those, where was I going? Where was this started? Where did you just say? Oh, dealing with trauma.

So I was just like, that's when I started spiraling. Cause all of a sudden people are telling me what's happening. And I was like kind of bubbling myself. Cause like mentally I just can't handle a lot of things. So I, that's why I bubbled myself. And, um, so they were saying this and I just started spiraling. Cause I like couldn't move. My mouth was like open and I was like crying. I was like hysterical. I was just all of a sudden, like, I like couldn't, like, I don't get panic attacks, but I couldn't breathe. Had to go to the bathroom. Um, they had like, come get me out of the bathroom. Cause I was just like, I, like crying. I was like hysterical. I was just all of a sudden like I like couldn't like I don't get panic attacks. I couldn't breathe. Had to go to the bathroom. They had like come get me out of the bathroom because I was just like I like I didn't know what to do.

I was like should I escape? But like there was like literally like holes in my mouth. And they do quadrants at a time. So I think there was only like maybe three open. But I was like do I just leave? Do I get in my car? Like whatever. And yeah some people some people need to be fully alert.

Moses is that person. The thing is that the fire near us started when she was at the dentist. Yes. The Kenneth fire. Yeah. It was close. Really close. And, you know, I was watching the wind to see if it's coming our way or not.

But I was like, I'm not going to freak her out. I won't let her know. I kept texting you. But sure enough, the false alarms went off. Everyone phones and everything you just told happened. Everyone's leaving. Everyone's leaving to go. Oh, no.

I didn't know you had that chaos going on. It was so much chaos. Because I was trying to protect you from that and i was like only if something serious really happened i'll let you know yeah you're like it's fine it's fine and i was like okay because like if i so then when you start seeing like when we were doing the podcast last week and we heard about all those malibu places like burning down that we go to and you're just like oh my god like and then you start like my head spirals so much and then i started thinking like the absolute worst like everyone's dying like

just like you know the worst so yeah some people like you said you need to process it some people some people need to know, the worst. So yeah. Some people, like you said, you need to process it. Some people, some people need to shut it out. And I know a lot of people are like, okay, that's just ignorant to do, but it's like, a lot of us are mentally unwell. So sometimes we need to like shut it off. Otherwise we'd like actually like start hearing voices and all that stuff starts happening. And then some people can just, like Moses is very good at just handling reality. Like you can just handle it and like kind of still go about the day or whatever. But yeah, trauma is definitely scary. What do you think? There is like a debate right now.

What is it called? Like escapism. Like people who just keep living life because they have to. Or like specifically the Tart trip. So many people. I think it was Coco Moco. She's like, this could be a hot take. But I don't know.

About the Tart trip. And she goes, I personally like it. She said, this is Coco Moco, not me. She goes, I personally like it because it's like escapism it's giving me something because she lives in LA she's something that's not LA what are your thoughts because this is very divided is there a divide like me too I want to see people like enjoying their lives and then the other half was like no this isn't bad taste yeah I think my initial reaction to the tart trip was I was like oh that's not to be honest because the tart trips in general like we talked about before, even the fires happened, they always seem a little bit in poor taste just because they are so extravagant and so maximalist, you know?

And like we said, I feel like people in general are kind of over that kind of lavishness and like overconsumption. So my initial reaction was like, oh oh there's no way that they should do this still but then again i thought about it more and i was like well at least they are like donating right and then i was thinking like okay if i had a vacation that was booked before any of this happened like would i still go and i was like i kind of do think i would go like obviously do your part to help out any way that you can. Give him money. I feel like you can do that without the trip.

That's true. To me, my issue was never this. Because we talked about it last week before. I think, like, the severity of the fires, like, really hit me anyways. Same, yeah. We talked about this trip. And I feel like I can fully give a real, like, analysis of this. Because I think before, I was like, am I just jealous?

But being offered to go on this trip, I feel like I can fully say like it's not jealousy. Like it's actually, it actually, and I don't know why, because I do think I maybe am on the, I'm on the hot take side of this because so many people are like, yeah, I don't mind it. And like at least they're donating. And like I get all that. I'm like, but you can do it without the trip. I think before, even if the fires weren't happening, any of this was happening, I just think it's like the most distasteful thing you can do is just like in this time, it's like the Christmas halls, everything, which I like participated in too, is to like show off what you can afford.

You know what I mean? And it's fine. Like work hard. Like I was talking to people this morning who was like, I felt guilty going out to dinner. They said it was their birthday and they had like a $600 dinner. And I was like, I think it's like fine to like enjoy if you like work hard for things. I think like showing it off on social media when like so many people like can't even afford like daycare or can't even afford like their house payments, I think it's just so like

tasteless. Like – and I'm someone who like – I definitely like can't afford like a private jet because that's what they took, like a private jet to Necker. I can't afford that. Oh, it was a private jet too? Private jet. Oh. They were showing all the little like spread in there.

They're on I think Richard Branson's island because there's like all the red, you know, whatever, this private island and stuff. So I just was like, yeah, private jets obviously bad for the environment. I hate people. I don't say I hate people with private jets. I just hate the idea of private jets because it's like, look, you know I'm not the most environmentally conscious person, but I will tell you I reuse my underwear now. I used to always just throw out underwear and I'm like, well, yeah, let's try to do what we can. I mean,

if that means using a paper straw, bamboo, whatever, you know, I'll do it. Whatever they're putting out there, I guess. Okay. It saves one turtle. Well, it saves one turtle. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. So that, but I think it's just like, it makes people feel bad. Like it made me feel bad. Like when I would see these trips where I was like, God, I wish I like Bora Bora. I went once and I was like last, I think a year or something. I was like, we should go to Bora Bora for my birthday. I looked into it. It was like $30,000 for like a family of four. And I was like, well. So in general, just seeing that I think doesn't make people feel good. I guess there is that percentage like Coco Moco and her audience that's like,

I like seeing people live lavish lifestyles. And if that's your thing, that's your thing. But I think the majority and this, and Tarte gets so much backlash every time they do this trip. And it's like, read the, that's what I'm like. I just like read the room, right? And there are so many times where I can be out of touch. And then you like hear perspectives. Like early on in this podcast, I said something like, you know, stay at home moms, it has it so much harder than working moms. And then so many working moms, they're like, why do that plus I work? And I'm like, you're absolutely right. I was so out of touch. So like when you hear so many people get so mad and saying why they're upset by this, like, why don't you like listen, you know? And it's great. I guess they're doing a Tart trip for like first responders

and fired, like they're listening and that's good. But also do we need to do it with all these influencers who are so rich? I get it. It's like a commercial and they said there's no obligation to have to post. And I guess it's like, you know, getting money for their business or whatever too. But, and I don't blame the influencers. I really don't. I think it's just, Tarte is just so, it's just, it's just tacky. I think it's just tacky. Here's a private jet. Here's custom Cheetos with your face on it. Here's a custom. I don't like it. I just, I actually hate it. And I don't know why. It's been bothering me so much. And most of someone disagrees with me. Like, I think I am like, not fully, like I may be alone on an island, no pun intended on this, but,

but, but I just feel like I get so mad. I'm actually so angry about it. And I don't know why. Like, and it's not even about the fires and leaving. Like you said, this trip is planned. They said it's planned for a year. I don't blame the influencers that go on it. I'm just like, I don't know. I hate watching it. It's just like, there's so much, there's so much. And not to be like that money could be used for something else. Like, I don't know. It's just, I feel like there's like, yes, they're giving back, but they could have given back so much more instead of a private jet that cost $100,000. Do you know what I mean? And Tartt gets a lot of, you know, publicity. They're out there,

like Tartt's talked about, like, I don't know. It's just, I don't know. I'm happy for influencers that get to go on it and they, you know, I guess, whatever. I guess it's for vacation, but I hate to see it. And it makes me sad. And it makes me sad for people who like literally can't afford like baby formula because it's so fricking expensive. And I don't know. It's probably like, yeah, comparing the two. But I think, again, if you can afford stuff and you work hard, like enjoy it, I guess. Do we have to flaunt it in front of people's faces at this time? I don't know if that's like the look we want. But piss me off. That's all I'm going to say. I don't know. I don't know what else to say. And I can fully say it with my chest now because I've been invited. So I feel like it's not just because somebody feel like, you're just jealous. You don't get

invited. Which in the past, maybe. Maybe it was like, okay, never got invited. I don't want to do it. I don't know. Like, it's crazy to be like the get ready with me's and just, I don't know. No shade to any of the influencers. I actually like know so many of them out there and they seem, like you said, I love the donations. I do love the donations, the Tarte that everyone's doing so good. I don't think you need to like show it off in a private jet. Yeah. No, I think you make very valid points. And I think a lot of people definitely do agree with that, too. I think there is something about it that does seem like kind of classist a little bit, right? Because it is like kind of an exclusive trip. It's only a certain caliber of influencers.

It is very extravagant, very over the top, very lavish. And they do get backlash every single time. Every time. Every time. But it's like, is it the strategy of it's still like any publicity is good publicity? Rage bait. Yeah. Join Leo Skeppy, Whitney Cummings.

You're rage baiting me. It's working. I made three TikToks about it. I didn't post. I was like, I shouldn't. Like, I just, I shouldn't. And it just was like me just looking, I just like was so disheveled this weekend. And I was just like, let me not.

But it still made me mad this morning. But it directly connects to what they're selling, right? Because, I mean, they're selling makeup. People want to look better. They want to look like these people. They want to be these people. They want to be that lifestyle. It just matches what they're trying to sell.

What do you mean? What matches what? Like the aspirational sense. The image of what people see matches, you know, people want to be those people. They want to look like them. They want to have that makeup. They want to be on that trip. To me, that's so 2003 is just like having people that are just like unattainable beauties.

Like I don't want to buy something like Paris Hilton eating a Carl's Jr. cheeseburger. You know what I mean? It's just like an unattainable, like in a wet thing. Like I think that's just like such an ideal that people don't want to strive to be. I don't want to be, I don't want to buy something because like these extravagant people are showing it. I just think it's, I think it's just so out of touch for like, especially these past couple of years, just everything just being so, we've noticed it. And again, we're like comfortable, but it's like, God, like the inflation and like prices and just travel and just everything. Like it's actually like,

and we're comfy, we're lucky, but the people that are like not and that can't even like afford – like we were talking about like people who work at fast food can't even have one job to support themselves. They have to have multiple jobs to do it. And it's just like seeing just money just being flashed again on just like such extravagant things. It's fine if you want to – but even person – anything. When I see people like showing a Birkin they bought or something, it makes me like cringe in a way because it's just like i don't know it's just not it's just not the look right now and like i like work hard fine but do we have to show it off and like i don't know

it just makes me it actually makes me sick the whole thing kind of made me like a little sick to my stomach and i didn't like it because it's a bigger shift in social media i just at the beginning it was curiosity because before we like i never got to see how rich people live i never get to see their homes i never got to see their cars i never got to see their jewelry and then with social media you start seeing those things or even different shows like kardashians kardashians or even mtv and you start seeing this person's crib this person cars this person so it's at first you're curious i'm like okay that's cool but then also you start seeing poverty and war and so suddenly you have an vision to the whole world as a whole

they're like okay the flashy stuff right now is actually seeing that next to people that just suffered from war or fire or then it starts to bother you but i think it's just an evolution of society is like now that we see everything all at once to choose what do we show? What do we want to see? Like Kardashians would – like I really was like depressed watching that because it made me think like, oh, we need three houses and we need – like it just makes you like want more and more even though we have like a lot.

And I was just like this is like so gross or like people like Elon Musk or all these people. Like when children are like starving and like dying of starvation, it's like just crazy that people are just like – I don't know know just showing it off so much I don't like it just makes me like a little sick when there are billionaires who could help and not to say they're not again like Tartt it's nice to be philanthropic but it's like you could just I don't know to see it it's like you could be doing much more if I don't see it then it's fine whatever just like but to see it as like but um yeah Moses like't know. But yeah, Moses is like, he was very,

you were very much like, if there's a trip, go on the trip. Like a lot of the influencers- No, my point was that, let's say, there's people we know that were very stressed with the fires. Air quality is horrible. They live in areas that were evacuated. I'm like, if you offer to go to another country

where you don't have to suffer from the air quality, you don't have to be in that stress and anyway you need to be evacuated what's better than going away but there's no obligation to post so i really don't know post start that's what according to everybody is there's an obligation to post so in my opinion if that's your reason for wanting to leave fine do you have to post about it i don't know i think that's like a little and not even about the fires because like we're doing this podcast and I watch Traitors and I watch Drag Race. And yes, the escapism of course is there. Like you don't want to just be – people have gone to the movies. You don't want to be just miserable and sad. I'm not saying that. So this is like separate from the fire thing.

I think just in general, this trip like pissed me off and – so yeah, go. Go on your trip. But I don't know. Like posting about it seems – I don't know. Something about it really does bug me. something about it really does bug me i don't know why i don't really know why like it really but i think just the flaunting of wealth yeah i think and also that i feel like that idea can extend to about like with just hollywood in general like there's a big debate like are the grammy's gonna get postponed or the oscars like obviously we're in the middle of award season and now it's like oh is a lot of actors especially like it's kind of in poor taste to celebrate these films and have these events that cost millions of dollars that's and we are wearing dresses and jewelry that cost millions of dollars when there's so much going on right now so that even like award season is up in

the air for hollywood and it's a little bit different because it's obviously taking place in LA and LA as a whole is affected. But I feel like that idea is still the same. Like it feels kind of icky to be so excessive in general, but especially like right now. That's true. I never thought about that. I think, who was it?

Oh, Jean Smart from Hacks. She just asked like, hey, let's not do it um all these award shows coming up just don't throw these big events don't pay all the money to get this on tv you can still give us the awards but just donate that money put it somewhere where it could be better used so it'll be interesting to see what happens i think the grammys is talking about either postponing or making the whole thing like a benefit concert but i guess that is kind of similar to the tart thing right that's still spending a lot of money on the events and then donating it so why not at that point maybe just go any else i don't know it's it is tricky trying to find an argument i'm just like for the sake of

debate but i don't know that is a good it's well it's a little it feels different but maybe not maybe it doesn't they're still gonna get flagged because i mean so many people that were affected are celebrities from hollywood so they're like oh you're doing this now because it's your own you know it's it's however you look at it it will get some criticism but they should they should help whatever way they can that's so interesting because i do like awards but that is true but something feels a little different i don't know if it's because – I don't know. I could be really way off. I'm just trying to feel like debate team. Were you on the debate team in high school? I loved – did you ever do it?

No. I took a debate class in college because I had to. Oh, team. Yeah. I wasn't on the debate team. I did a debate class. But I loved it because they would give you like a side that maybe you weren't even on so you had to find a way to like argue with. I kind of loved, which I'm trying to do here because I'm not necessarily on pro Golden Globes. But is it – are they like getting advertisers? Like are they like an – like where they get paid to put on this show or no?

It's just all like where the funds come from. No, they do have advertisers. Like the Golden Globes, they have that one – they have several sponsors. I think Moet was a sponsor. Champagne? Yeah. Oosh. There's a weight loss company that was a sponsor.

Oh, okay. They have a few different sponsors, yeah. Because I do support entertainment and I do support people. I do love that Traders came out and stuff like that because it kind of gives you – I like the escapism part. Yeah. I mean the shows obviously – I think it's great that they're still happening. I know a lot of shows canceled premieres and movies.

I think Jennifer Lopez was supposed to have um a premiere and to her benefit like she canceled the premiere she's like no like this is in poor taste I'm gonna donate money instead so shout out JLo I love that yeah no it's definitely tricky that's what I'm saying it's definitely tricky like obviously the tour thing coming up and like posting it like okay is this like whatever you know what I mean but it's like a month away and like whatever like trying to make like a living but I do yeah I do see I guess it's like it's like a bunch of like celebrities from the Oscars got to have like a free house in Aspen and they're like doing a party the gift yeah the gifting for the Golden Globes for example like obviously this was pre-fires but the gifting

suite I read an article from Forbes that broke down like the gifting suite that they got the Golden Globes and it's worth a million dollars. That's crazy. And there's like three different trips and stuff that are included in the gifting package, I guess, for the nominees. So there is that element to it too. I didn't know that. So I guess it's like not – maybe it's in your face. I never see it.

So it's like I kind of like it. I think they are more low-key about it. I think even celebrities know now like they're not – That, ooh, yeah. They're not relatable. Yeah. Was it – I could see it. So it's like I kind of like it. I think they are more low key about it. Yeah. I think even celebrities know now like let me not. Let me be relatable. Yeah. Was it? I could be wrong. Was it Kim Kardashian who posted like a Balenciaga delivery this week?

Oh, I have no idea. I saw. I think. I think I saw this where it was during all this and Kim's like, look at. Thank you, Balenciaga. And it was like all these Balenciaga bags and stuff like that. It's like that's what I'm saying. Like it's like one thing to get it.

And it's like nice, you know, and you work hard. And another big one. It's from an old clip but kim kardashian talking about fires a couple years ago on ellen how she paid um not the la fire department but like a private fire brigade to come and protect her whole neighborhood um and surprisingly the comments were actually on kim's side where they're like well if i had the money i would do this too and it's like no the timing she was criticized heavily right right and now people are like well i would do it too with like my house and stuff like that and it's like again it's like one of those things where it's like it's probably like nice and like a lot of people in the comments like yeah if i

had the resource i would do it too but like to like say it on like ellen is like wild you know what i mean to like have like a big display of it because it will piss a ton of people off that can't afford it yeah i think it did piss me off too because i was like well yes you're not you're not technically taking away firefighters from one you know public big fire and then keeping them at your house or anything you know technically yeah but those could also be used like actually on the scene versus like a you know defending only your area you know is that why everyone got mad at like oprah and stuff because her house was still standing during the maui fires or something um or am i wrong i think because i think there's more to it with

like the with hawaii fires in maui because she owns so much of the island so um same with the rock too like they just own so much of it and then weren't according to the the hawaiians weren't doing enough really or weren't giving back enough they're like oh you came here you buy all the land but then you are you aren't going to help the community you know so their land was okay right yeah so it wasn't that the other sus thing is like well they were protecting their yeah no one else is around them. Yeah, tough one because it's like... With that one with the fire company, like I wouldn't blame Kim.

It's more about what services are available. So it's more about what that company does, you know. Is that company using their resources to help with fires if they're not hired? Oh yeah, true. You know what I'm saying? It's really about the service provider more than her

hiring them or not people were like I said weirdly on that side I wasn't expecting that because I remember back then people were like pissed and I'm kind of on the fence about it because I mean I don't even know how much that would cost to like hire private fire no one has that money because if you're let's say you're her neighbor and she did that and she prevented the fire

from going into her neighborhood then you will be thanking her but your point was valid where it's like okay that's already an expensive neighborhood where they're probably gonna like take extra precautions anyways palisades was that and it didn't they couldn't stop it i mean they didn't have water that was the reason yeah but i think with palace it was so quick like this one i remember i think it was like the woolsey fire that was like 2018 um and it like it's not like it started directly I don't know it was more slow it wasn't as crazy as these ones because the winds weren't as much like it was just easier to get like structure protection in because the environment wasn't as crazy um

Kardashians kind of are like the damned if you do damn like they're always gonna have like people hate for no reason but also some reason yeah oh that's a great transition actually um i saw on chloe's podcast she had scott disick on yes and he talked about um what why it didn't work out with his ex-girlfriend who which one i think he was referring to amelia gray um and yeah she it was when she was 19 i believe he was like 38 39 and he was talking about like um i'll i'll have jimmy insert the exact quote here i'll play it for you but i'll have jimmy edit it in so i don't like mess up the context because i feel like it's important it was it was crazy that part why is he always dating some people so young like wasn't so for your richie like so yes he went from

sophia richie to amelia Gray yeah and then you're gonna gag when you see what he says about her I saw it on Spill Sash's video as usual I love Spill Sash she's on it she never stops she is 24 hours I've only been in a few relationships but like my last one

I trusted the girl I was with very much and told her everything that I felt in the world and was totally like a good, fine thing, you know? Good. So it hasn't hardened you? No. Like my last relationship was good. It was just kind of like we were in different places at different times in our lives. And we know that I've tended to date a little younger than I should. And... Are you going to stick with that?

Are you going to try to go a little older? No, I can't go. Well... So what's your age range? Like I'll get back with her when she gets older. Ew! But she'll still be the same. Yeah, but she'll be matured then and older and been through life

a little bit and got over you had some heartbreaks and isn't that crazy he i don't know i don't know talk about rage baiting and i don't know i don't know if like scott's a character but everything i see about him i actually like hate this person i like even now like that you know people like are like people change and grow but this is like last week what like how everybody's telling you even he's like younger than i should like he knows but even listening to that like what like how is chloe not like huh like like waiting for someone to get older is wild yeah Yeah. So Amelia, I guess, was 19 when they started dating. She's 23 now. Which is, and how old is Scott?

Let me see. So he must be like 40s. Yeah. 41. Yeah. Stop thinking about 23 year old Scott. Someone you knew when they were 19, when they were a teenager. It's so wild to be like, yeah, like I opened up to her.

I told her everything. And it just turns out we were in different places. Like you were dating a teenager. You talked about a teenager it's so wild to be like yeah like i opened up to her i told her everything and it just turns out we were in different places like you were dating a teenager on a teenager like what like you were a dad you have children and you're opening up and you're telling all your like life to a child who can't even process her life because she's 19 like that's oh oh my god like i'm not trying to make like her like you know whatever but it's just like all that's so icky and chloe says it's so casually they all like talk to him and like love him as if he's like this good guy so i like try to believe it like i know he struggled like substance like alcohol all that stuff like that so i know he struggled with stuff so i like i'm like okay

he's going through a lot but then it's like your brain is still there it's like so yeah after going through all that going through like addiction recovery like his his back he had a back injury and then his weight gain and weight loss and i mean he's gone through like a lot of and that's still where your mind is at like usually those kind of things kind of like rework your life like that's where i thought he was going is like yeah i can't date that anymore not let me wait till my teenage girlfriend is 25 or whatever like where i'll be 50 like that's yeah wild it's so i mean like i like i could it's not even like a one-off thing like he went from sofia richie and then to like amelia too so what like sofia got a little bit too old for you or what it's so weird no it's very weird it's very odd he's also just awful and again maybe it's like his character on the show

because i never watched it but i see every clip i see of him on TikTok is constantly just saying like he's like Courtney how much did you weigh when we met she's like 95 he's like oh your your dream weight should be 93 you were so hot back then like just she was pregnant and he's she's like yeah I'm getting really hungry he's like yeah I bet you are like he's just so nasty where I'm like even if that's like your character like why would you want that out there for the world to see and this is well after they've had two kids so like you've had a daughter and you're still like fat shaming where it's just like not fun like it's just like it's so gross and so weird I think in that same podcast like yeah you know the stuff I put out is like kind of embarrassing like it sounded like he was taking

accountability and then here in this clip I'm like you're you're still so warped like you're still like that I don't know and like I don't know like I feel like he's gone through stuff where he's like had therapy and stuff like how do they not tell him like I – I don't know. And like I don't know. Like I feel like he's gone through stuff where he's like had therapy and stuff. Like how do they not tell him like – I guess people don't talk about that in therapy. Like maybe don't date girls that are like teenagers. It's weird in this family, right? Because I mean Kylie was allegedly what dating – it's kind of proven but was allegedly dating Tyga when she was underage and the family was cool with it.

And then like look at sophia richie like she was i think three of her boyfriends she dated two of them when she was underage she was dating older and then obviously scott she was of age but there was a big age difference there too there is like a show and stuff like yeah this is my girlfriend so there is like just a weird normalization in like the industry i think i think the kids think that they grow up faster because they are in the industry. Yeah. And there is – and I think too the parents like think about like Lisa Rinna, for example, for Amelia Gray. You know, like obviously her – she grew up in the industry.

So I think generationally she's used to like the big age gap relationships because back like her generation that was so normalized with like young girls dating these old men you know i mean right so i think that normalization is just like instilled luckily i feel like this generation is the one where that's like getting unlearned you know for sure yeah this is kind of weird which i'd love to see that's what i'd love to see is when like 19 year old girls like this guy is like 38 like hitting on me that's like weird like I do love to see that like you said thank god that's the reason like I I feel like there's like one platform I have and it's like that it's like I feel like the more you say it the more people will be like oh yeah that's like or anybody I mean Olivia Bryant's been like so many people have been like yeah it was ick like

I was dating this person when I was like freshly 18 or whatever and it's like the more people talk about the more people realize because I was that person I mean, when you're 18 or whatever, you're just like – I don't know. You think it's like fine and like you feel fine. I feel like you think you're older. You think you're older. You think you're like you're mature and you're special and you have this deep connection with this person. But like the older person, like the opening up, sharing feelings, like that's like literally

trauma dumping on someone who doesn't quite grasp life yet. So – Frontal lobe not fully developed. A hundred percent. I feel like this has been said so many times, so many places. And it's just like, well, hopefully more people keep talking about it. But like 2025 and like that's the discussion. And like Chloe is very like, I think she's pretty like level-headed.

So it's just kind of odd. I don't know that they, cause she really loves Scott. Like they're very, very close. So it's just like, why? Or why even put it on the podcast? Like that part I'd be like, maybe we should cut that out. Cause that's how you feel. No publicist is like, but that's what I'm saying part would be like, maybe we should cut that out. Because that's how you feel. That's how you feel.

But that's what I'm saying. I think it's so, like, normalized in that family. Like, if even, like, her baby sister was dating someone. Yeah. Like, that was that much older, you know, and no one said anything. Then I think for them it's just so normalized. Oh, my God. It, like, makes me so so scared i get so scared for like

malibu to be dating i'm just like am i gonna be that person just like will never let her leave but then it's like they rebel even more right if you're like you can't leave the house till you're 21 and then they like my dad was very like that he's definitely like you can't date until you're like 25 so i was like bye i'm gonna become a hooker at 18 you know what i mean like it's just like one of those it's so scary how do you navigate it because how do you tell someone no and they just go do it anyways and no but also you're not in that environment because what i saw in the celebrity world is that they see it it's normalized through you know they're all hanging out together and you see all the celebrities with their really young girlfriends and you see their kids dating they meet in those events other celebrities and they're so excited about it and the parents are excited that their little kid is dating a celebrity oh that's so interesting so it's

we've talked about it before very much part of the culture like if Zac Efron's like I want to date Malibu like at 16 I'd be like so obviously oh gross but I guess in some level if you've never experienced or you don't know like the damage it could have on them I guess some people be like that's kind of cool like Courtney Stodden not like obviously not when she's like 16, but like Courtney Stodden's mom, you know, saw Doug Hutchinson as like a big actor and she's like, oh yeah, you like should date him and whatever. So I guess I could see it, I guess a little bit if you haven't been through it or something. Definitely not me.

I'm saying it's normalized in the celebrity culture, which is not good. But in their own world, they do. Because that's all they see. They see very famous and rich people date very very young women what is i mean i just don't i just don't get the appeal i don't get it i guess the youth but don't you feel old and creepy i mean you have to you'd have to right like i know they don't care why would they care i would i don't know i feel old and creepy sometimes just being around people i'm just like i'm too old to be here like you just are like you know

what i mean like you're just like oh i don't know i'm old why am i here there was something recently i felt probably tart when they invited me i was probably like that's awkward just like here i think it was i think i think tana was like being like you should come you should come like me and moses are gonna be there with a bunch of influencers like i don't know if that's the vibe we talked about this months ago before you even get invited. Do you remember we saw a family, we saw somebody going on a trip. Oh, yes. And we were like, this would be just so awkward if we were there at the breakfast. The old married couple.

Yeah, yeah. It's giving not cute for us, but I mean, I guess it's nice to be invited. If they serve fish in tin cans, I'll review it. Oh, my God. No, absolutely not. Yeah, all of it sounds i uh drew and i called me maternal on their podcast i like that oh yeah did you see it yes they had an episode um with alex consagni yes how was it meeting trisha it was so good she's so nice like she really is she feels like a mom like she's so Like she's so maternal. She's so sweet. Like y'all would get along

No, she's fab. She's amazing. I saw you guys met her and I was dying. You need to go on her pod. I know but how? We'll make it work. Maybe we all, maybe as a trio we go. Yeah. And it'll be the four loudest people on the planet in one room. Right. It'll literally the microphones to be like cutting off

by the way I've always loved her and then people were tagging me and they're like oh Alex Tansani wants to be on your podcast and I was like I think we even maybe reviewed her Halloween costume last year the grew we have so many episodes that I don't know which one but there is one where I was like oh Alex Tansani would be great as a guest

and it was early on when the guests were episodes were just happening because I love her on TikTok if you guys don't know she is literally iconic trans icon she was um literally model of the year in 2024 the first trans model at 12 or something yeah yeah crazy gorge like studying like i remember reviewing her halloween she was like sexy grew yes and i was like love her so much and so then they were talking about uh me on their podcast I got really excited and um then specifically her and then she had sent me a dm I had seen excited I want to go dm her right away and then she had me and I was like so excited um but I was I was super excited and then she asked me what I was

like meeting Trisha and the way that Drew and Anya described me they're like she was great she was so sweet and very maternal I love that that was my favorite description because i was like i never see myself as maternal but that's like the best thing to be called when you're like a mom who didn't feel maternal because now i do i do definitely feel maternal i definitely feel like i need to protect everybody around me and like make sure everyone's okay and everything so that was really nice i like them i have to follow up with them i did text them a while ago if they want to be on the podcast but i got followed with them they're so sweet they're also very busy they both travel all the time yeah but i want to be in their little kitchen setup wherever they're at i love it it's just like dimly lit honestly better than the tiny

meat gang one i dare i say it's just so authentic you know relatable i hate that word but it's very relatable it would have drew it anywhere on the tar trip that'd be wild i'd like to see that i honestly would love to see it through their eyes every time they do a collab with like a mark jacobs or um what's that other clothing line aritzia i think they just did um yeah because she's like an actual model i mean he i don't know if he's modeled before but i know she's like actually modeled yeah i guess now he is yeah i mean he drew is like again we said it before but he's like super tall very like has model features so it makes sense for the both of them there.

And also for Alex and Sonny, it was like, oh, it's three models hanging out. They are like gorgeous. And like in person too, I remember seeing and I was like actually kind of shook for a minute because they're like really beautiful in person. And you're just like, wow, like they're goofy. So you kind of don't see the, you know, when people are quirky, you don't see like the beauty right away. And I was like, holy, I guess they are like the most beautiful people ever.

Yeah. Like for Enyan too, when she does her TikToks that are just like to songs or whatever, and it's just her like straight onto camera, just like doing a little lip sync, whatever. It's like, wow, your face card is actually insanity. Like it's so fierce. Try to be next to her. Like not to be that person that like body checks or anything. But when we did the TikTok, like we're all standing like a – I was – I've never

been more insecure in my life. And I'm pretty secure. I always think I look pretty cute. But I was like, oh my God, let me not stand next to you. I think that we did a second take where we put her in the front because she was like somewhere like in the middle. I was like absolutely not. Like go and let me just be to the side.

Because she really is like gorgeous and you don't – you don't really realize until you stand next to someone gorgeous that you're, you know, cute but not that you know what i mean and she is gorgeous and i want all of them on and i got really excited so um yeah hopefully i really i really love her and she she really does do so well on tiktok too i didn't even realize yeah she is it girl i mean i love all her tiktok so much there was literally one day last year where I was just going through and watching them over and over and over again. That, like, Darian actually got mad at me because I would play them, like, out loud in the bedroom. And it was just, like, playing them too much. Just like, stop.

Because I just love everything that she says. She is so funny, too. Like, that's the other thing. It's when they're funny. Effortless. Yeah. Effortlessly hilarious. Like, it is.

I don't even understand where she comes up with this stuff. It's always like, she just is, like, screaming in subways. And her backstage at fashion shows, well, yes. And, like... And she's just, and she's a model. Like, she doesn't even, she said she doesn't have any aspirations to be an actress or anything. I was just like, you're so funny. Like,

you should be, you should be going on tour. You know, all these people going on tour. I'll pay to see you just be beautiful and tell jokes something about them all three together it's just like such a setting that because she does like so many interviews with like big like w for like youtube videos and stuff like that so it's like so funny again drew and i have a big podcast obviously but the way they film it just feels so i don't know what the word is like homemade yeah it's very like cozy cozy yeah it's like the setup is just fierce i don't know what the word is. Like homemade. Yeah, it's very like cozy. Cozy, yeah. Yeah, it's like the setup is just fierce. I don't know.

It gives old school like YouTube vibes, you know? Yeah, very much. It's very much like just like the kitchen light above them is the lighting. That's really cute. I love them. Do they post every week? No. They post pretty often.

I think they do, but when they travel and stuff, they get a little bit behind. But they're pretty on it with their schedule. Yeah. Because I haven't seen them with like a guest in a while, and I saw that like everywhere, and I was like so excited. I was like and stuff, they get a little bit behind. But they're pretty on it with their schedule. Yeah. Yeah. Because I haven't seen them with like a guest in a while. And I saw that like everywhere. And I was like so excited. I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. I like them.

Drew and I, I love you so much. And I will keep texting. I told Moses, like, you should text them. I'm like, I've texted them like three times. I don't want to like be that person that's like, hey, again. We'll talk about them here. I love the back and forth. It's so funny. I love when like someone talks about us and then we talk about that

and then it's like a back and forth until it happens. It feels less invasive than like texting. It's just like, I love you. I'm obsessed with you.

Please come on any single time because it is hard for me to like, I think I did, let me be real. I think I sent one text. I don't want to say like three

but like you sent one text but I did send one text like let me know your schedule and then like you don't hear back you're just like you're a little pushy about it so but still let me know your schedule.

I'll make it work. There are certain people I'll make like any day work for and drew any and alex i will make any day work for so trying to get other people on the podcast too but it's hard out there people are booked and busy yeah and i feel like i don't know it's funny i was when i was streaming yesterday everyone was saying like i think people were letting me know about alex and telling me about like oh this, this person, this person, this person. I was like – it's funny because it's kind of hard for us to book people. But whenever someone is asked, I was like, yeah, I would love to. Wow.

Follow up on that DM then. I know. Because there's so many people I follow up with and I'm like, oh. It's nice. It's better than being like, no, I don't want to go on that podcast. I know. True. So I'd rather someone be polite about it and not follow up. Yeah.

I always prefer ghosting over a rejection any day. It is an honor to even get a, I would love to. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, wow. Well, I'm coming for the cast of The Traitors. I followed Gabby Windy. I'm coming to,

Bob, Bob the Drag Queen, when I met him back in Wicked, was like, I'll come on the podcast. He might be a little hard now, but I contacted Bob, contacted Gabby. I love them both. Chrishell.

Those are my three I'm interested in. Yeah, I, oh, did you watch all three episodes of Traitors? I did. Me too. Yeah, because it was, that's the escapism I like. I like to just, okay, let me watch this. Yeah, it was, it's pretty good. I think I'm still partial to season two.

Season two was just so good. But I do. I agree. This season just has a lot of straight men that I'm like, I don't really care about. That's what I don't understand. The three, like, spoiler for anybody who hasn't watched it. Oh, yeah, spoiler spoiler for the first three episodes of Trailer Season 3.

The fact that the three guests coming in were just like these like bros. I had to look them all up. I was showing Moses. I was like looking them up. Like, I'm not trying to be shady at all,

but like, I guess Boston Rob is like this big deal. Everyone's like, oh my God, Boston Rob. I was like, who the f*** is Boston Rob?

Like, I don't know like this person. So I looked him up. I like told Moses, I'm like, this guy was on Survivor 20 years ago. And I show a picture.

I'm like, what? Like how? First of all, or the other one that was like the Derek who's like a cop that was on Big Brother like 20 I'm like I don't understand like how I'm not cast on this show like it's crazy these random people there's like the challengers 20 years I was like what the hell are these people and there's like three bros and not even bros like I'm not not age shaming because they're all older on the show I'm getting older too but they're like all in like their 40s these like bro guys that everyone's like scared of that they're like even boss and rob which I'm like the name alone I can't even say without like laughing because I'm like what the like you're whatever um he like even he was so

like about to get revenge on these people like I just like can't take it seriously like I'm like why are you so bro? We like Camp. We like Bob the Draco. We like Pepper. We love Alan Cumming. That's why we watch the show. So why are we putting Tom Sandoval in there?

Or Sam Ascari. Have we even seen one word from him? You know what I mean? Let's get more of Bob. People who, even Bob Harper, who I didn't love on Biggest Loser, because I think that show is so problematic. But he's giving Camp. He's giving effort into the game. The housewives all give the same.

I just don't understand those, like, three guys they put in the game. I'm like, I didn't know who they were. I looked them up. I'm like, they don't have, like, that big of a following. And they're just so, like, guyish. And they're all just trying to, like, I don't know. Like, all of them. The boat game where all the women had to get out of the boat.

Like, Bob was trying to be like, yo, man, like, let's also get off this like boat. Like it's, oh, it really, it really does piss me off when Bob is like the one that's like looking out for like the women. And I'm just like, okay, this is like, so, so I keep biting my tongue. The dental work, I keep biting my tongue. It hurts. Anyways, pisses me off and everyone and all like the, all the bachelor people, the wells and all these people are just like, I don't, I don't know any of these people. Like I don't care about any of them. They're making the game not fun they take it so serious so personal so aggressive i think that's the problem so i know all the three guys that they added because i watched their shows like i like you watched survivor 20 years ago not 20 years ago but when

i got into survivor in 2020 and i went back and watched all the almost all the seasons besides like the really really early ones but that's why i loved parvati last season because she was from like the earlier seasons of survivor but the difference is parvati is like slay you know so yeah but give me richard hatch yes that's what i know he seems slay the problem is these three guys are all the same archetype of they're like known to be like very strategic and like cutthroat or whatever so So they just all fill the same niche. Like they're all the really strategic masterminds of their game. And it's like, okay, but we're not really killing people in Traders.

Like we're just trying to have – They act like it. Yeah. And like last season with Dan was like the – Whoa, he's like the strategic mastermind. He comes from Big Brother. Like he almost – He won it once, almost won it twice.

But he flopped in Traders. It's like the ones that are like campier are the ones that like do better mj went far she was top four yes phadra last year we're doing literally nothing but like being the meme and standing there in the hallway that'd be mean it's like yes to have like the game players for sure but i feel like we're getting robbed a little bit no pun intended because we don't have like more like you know we didn't get to see Dorinda Medley from Real Housewives, who's just, like, unbridled chaos, you know? Like, give us a Tiffany Pollard, you know? Yeah. You know, give us someone.

How is she not in there? I know. That's crazy. Yeah, even Dorinda? Yeah. Like, yeah, like, I don't know Housewives, but I definitely have seen her, like, memes and her clips everywhere. And it's just, like, how? We were robbed because she got out too early like we're losing

the campness for the strategy but also the people who are too strategic don't do well anyways because they take it too serious too serious yeah dan was yeah he flopped for sure like we're missing out on the on the entertainment because they're giving us the guys who are too on it and then again the i get like they have to fill the different niches for the casting, but Sam Asghari and then the one who's a step uncle to Prince Harry or whatever. No, those people need to never be in this game. It's a waste. It's literally a waste of space. Like they bring nothing, literally bring nothing to the table at all. Yeah, they did that the first season.

Was there a second season was like a butler? Yeah, it was a royal. Was he a royal too? From Parliament. Yes, that's what it was. Princess Diana. Do they's what it was Princess Diana do they have a quota do they have to have one

Princess Diana like a resistant I don't know something no he was he was in the parliament yeah what is that

why it is weird it's like doesn't fit the vibe of the show I think they want some accent because they're in the

they want to have the character that feels like get Gemma Collins or Katie Price or what's her name Hilaria get Hilaria Baldwin

in there for sure it is so random it's like literally like second cousin of King Harry's like it's so random it gives me the vibe

like at least Frankie Grande was Ariana's brother but this is it was trying to give the same gaggery of being related to someone like iconic

but it was like well I am the step uncle i'm like wait okay unless you're the like the biological uncle and you're living in like kensington palace yeah we'll circle back i want to see king charles like that's what i want to see that's it's so random at least camilla like come on give a camilla would be so good in there. Would watch it for sure. It's very odd. And they do a kind of, they were trying to isolate him at the beginning. I thought Ivar, I know the name because they said it so many times. Ivar is going out.

And I was like. Thank God. I wanted one of the boring guys out. Yeah. Because the older guy from last season, the parliament guy, like he just wasn't bringing anything. And he just kind of felt bad because he was older. And you're just like, okay, I don't know what I'm watching.

He kind of got camped towards the end. He started going after people. But it was like episodes of him barely being in it and i'm like yeah well i've already scored some points by saying he was gay it kind of gagged everyone for a minute oh sure i did forget about that i'm married a bloke yeah okay that's kind of shocking yeah but i mean the girls are really doing it though like i love i love i didn't really know much gabby windy i was unfamiliar with your game but i love the girl i do and she's queer too i was like well yes like everywhere i followed her back i was like oh my I didn't really know much Gabby Windy. I was unfamiliar with her game. Me too. But I love the girl. Love her. I do.

And she's queer too. I was like, well, yes. Follow me everywhere. I followed her back. I was like, oh my God, I love her. I'm like probably going to miss out now. I was like, damn, I'm probably going to miss this window because they're so popular. Love her so much.

I know because I didn't know her story. Didn't know she was queer. Didn't know any of that. She's like, yeah, I was on The Bachelor for two seasons. Like, how'd that work out? I was like, well, I'm a lesbian now. I was like, love. Yeah, she's everything. I like the trio of Chrishell.

Is it Nikki? Chrishell, Nikki, and Gabby. Yeah. Yeah, she's everything. I like the trio of Chris Shell. Is it Nikki? Chris Shell, Nikki, and Gabby. Yeah, love them. Love the girls. And I just hope they band together more. I don't love the traitor. I like Bob. The other traitor, I don't like Boss and Rob.

I don't like, I don't know if it's just I don't like them. I just think they like are not, they're not, what's the word? Like Bob is taking over because like, because he can. Like the other people don't have input. They're not um what's the word like bob is taking over because like because it's because he he can like the other people don't have input they're not giving anything you know what i mean carolyn again i watch survivor oh okay i don't know where they're from she um you love her i'd love i feel like yes because i feel like she kind of gives me what to it a little bit of what you would give me in the castle as far as like chaos you could be a traitor and no one really would really know because i feel like your personality would be the same and

no one would people would be like there's no way trisha can be a traitor she's like just uh all over the place you know what i mean i think i would honestly confuse myself i think i wouldn't know what's real that's true she i guess i haven't gotten much from her yet so i don't know and i relate to her too because i know that she like, the strats in her brain, but she can't verbalize and put it into words, like, what she's thinking, like, coherently. Okay. Because she was also the same on Survivor. She got very, very far on Survivor.

Did she? I think Final Four or Final Three, if I remember. And she was the underdog. Wow. Like, she was the one they were going to get rid of as soon as they could, but she kept me down. Preserved, yeah. And she was, like, strategizing under the radar, so. radar so how do you win survivor we were talking about this because we

haven't seen survivor i like i don't think i've seen any of it how do you win it's a very intense game because you start off on three different tribes so you have to survive within your own tribe and then at some point they all merge and come together so it's this mix of you have to like have allies and have enough people to not get voted out but then you also have to be making enough big moves to be voted as the winner at the end because like the the people you eliminate vote who the winner is so they want to see like the gameplay of like oh what moves did you do to get there big brother yeah they respect the person who made the move like well we hate him because he eliminated us, but damn, he was good.

But they really, even if they, like, someone is in there and is responsible for eliminating all of them, they will usually win. But the problem is everyone knows that. So as soon as someone makes a big move, they're usually the next one. Everyone's like, damn, we've got to get rid of them. Oh, get them out. So I like the game because it is complex as far as, like, how you navigate being, being like making the big moves but not being the threat at the same time. Yeah.

So it is this balance. Boston Rob won or no? I don't think he won actually. Oh. So everyone's just scared of him. But he was just a good player. I think he did it like twice and didn't win. Parvati last year won.

Tony won twice. He won his season and then he won the all-winner season. The one they got out. Yes. Yeah. He wasn't very good on this game I didn'twinner season. The one they got out. Yes. Yeah. He wasn't very good on this game, I didn't think. No, but that's the problem. Oh, I see.

You're good in other games, but this one is so different. The pacing is very different. You have to go slower and be like more low-key. Right, right, right. Whereas like Danielle played Big Brother. Like she was great in Big Brother, but that game is like you do have to be 20 steps ahead, you know? Whereas.

Why didn't she? I would have shaken the hand and gotten Brittany out of there. I've been like, because she's like, oh, you eliminated me on Big Brother. What's her name? Big Brother. I would 100% shake someone's hand to eliminate. If my mortal enemy was on there, like David Dobrik's there, you bet I'm going to shake someone's hand to get him out. Who's going to be the number one suspect of David Dobrik's death?

No, at the beginning. You remember when Boston Rob was going to get him? And he's like, if you come up and shake my hand, he'll know. I'll be like, shake your hand. Bye. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course what I mean? Like, I wouldn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, of course. I would have done that first. I would have gotten Sam Asgari out. Like, if just knowing him. The least threat? For justice for Brittany. Oh, for sure. I thought him or Tom would be out, but it didn't happen.

If I was Chris Shella, would I have done it? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, or like Danielle, who really didn't like Brittany when she saw her. I was like, get her out, girl. But I love Brittany,

so I'm selfishly very happy that that didn't happen. I don't know what she did to Danielle, but it sounds like she was pissed. And she knew she did wrong. She's like, I didn't mean to do it. I'm so sorry. I think you're out. I wish no one did that. I was like, I would 100% take someone out right away. But also then you're cursed with Boston Rob, who was kind of annoying.

I didn't know who he was. I was like, get this guy in the house. That's what I wish. I feel like, because Bob the Drag Queen also said, like, I got there and I didn't know who anyone was i'm like get this guy in the house that's what i wish i feel like because bob the drag queen also said like i got there and i didn't know who anyone was so you would have been i feel like very similar i think yeah i i do agree with him because it's like but but that's the thing unless you watch these shows like no one knows who these people are like i don't know anybody like at all like i housewives nobody so like it's not even like and like he said there's probably people more famous maybe they have like way more followings than me for sure. But if you're not in that world, like how would you know?

Like I'm sorry. I didn't know anyone from Big Brother was famous. When people are like, oh my gosh, that person was such a good game player in Big Brother. I was like, I don't know anyone from Big Brother except for Frankie Grande. And I know Richard Cash from Survivor. Like that's it. I don't know anyone else. Like it's so – there's even someone out there from Summer House.

I was like, what the hell is Summer House? Oh, yeah. That one is kind of a deep cut. Is it a British show? No, it's on Bravo. Never heard of it. So many things. I was just like, what the hell is Summer House? Oh, yeah. That one is kind of a deep cut. Is it a British show? No, it's on Bravo. Never heard of it. So many things. I was just like, okay.

Like, I mean, it's like, I do like Dylan Efron. Me too. I don't know where he's from, but I like him. I love that they put his, like, the show that he did with Zach, that little series or whatever, instead of just being, like, Zac Efron's brother, I guess. It should just be Zac Efron's brother. I know. That's so cool.

I would want to be his friend just for being Zac Efron's brother. He needs to put contacts on or something, though. His eyes are too blue. I love it. It's piercing. It's like, captivating. Yeah. I love it. He's so cool. I would want to be his friend just for being Zach's best brother. He needs to put contacts on or something, though. His eyes are too blue. I love it. It's like captivating. Yeah. I love it. He's so pretty.

And I love that he's a good sport. He changed his Instagram handle to misinformed or whatever. I love. Misguided. Misguided. Yeah. So good. I loved it.

Yeah. When people are going to take – that's what I'm saying. It's like a game. When people are like – get so pissed. Like how dare you accuse me. I'm like the show is traitors. Like what the hell? Like someone needs to say something.

Like it really does annoy me. I guess I'm not in it like maybe I probably would be like mad in the moment too but it's like oh my god people get so angry at this game it's like so so wild I love Bob I do fear he is um maybe too vocal for the house you know what I mean because he just speaks his mind which I like love but it puts a target on your back you know I know to have both him and Danielle already kind of be targets this early is scary. Danielle was wild at breakfast. I don't know if it was the way they edited her or what, but the way she was just like, yeah, even Boston Rob, he's just like, girl, stop talking.

I think that's the biggest cute near traitor. She was doing too much. She was doing so much. Like, Boston Rob, definitely. Faith, like, just doing so much. I'm just like, that's a lot. I don't like, I don't really like anyone. I don't know.

I don't really like anybody yet, but maybe I'll have a favorite. I like Bob. I like Bob. I like Gabby. Yeah, I like the girls. I like the three girl alliance. I love Bob. Yeah.

I love Brittany, even though she hasn't gotten much screen time, but I really love Brittany. I don't know. I don't remember her either. Like, I remember her from the beginning, but i can't tell you what she looks like she's barely gotten screen time but she's my i haven't watched a lot of modern big brother i think she was she was on it when i was maybe in early in college so it's been a while but i loved her when she was on it because she is like so funny so i hope she gets more screen time but yeah i think it's a good season i don't love it as much season two so far, but I have hope.

No, I'm always surprised there's no, like, social media people on. I know. Like, one or two. I feel like they could have easily gotten rid of Sam Asghari and Ivor and – Me. Yeah, literally. Yeah, I don't understand that either. Like, or just anybody.

Like, I'm like, there has to be. Because they did do all the influencers. I'm seeing it now. I told you, like, i think last year um in may where i was about to give birth to elvis they they were inviting a bunch of influencers to the traders house to do promo and i've been seeing it now like remi joe i follow her so she's the one i know but they were she was like in it so they're like all doing promo and like why don't they i think a lot of the comments said that too they're like why wasn't this a minute yeah like this would

at least gotten like followers and people excited about it it is weird i guess a lot of older people i think the show is almost like a commercial for reality tv shows it's like whoever is the producers of those shows make this show i think so it's kind of a funnel to all of those people that they already have in their arsenal because it's always the same it's survivor the housewives they all come from the same place and i think that's what it serves it's kind of like a secondary stage for those i don't know it didn't get me to watch any of those shows i was like i have no interest in why i didn't know survivor still on yes still really yeah i mean that's wow because that's like the first one right that was the first reality the first reality competition show i

believe i mean i was like in middle school when it came out yeah it's crazy because they'll show clips and stuff i think richard hatch was on of Villains and like they'll show clips of like Survivor or whatever. Even just like seeing the quality is so crazy. So crazy. Because it's like, you know, the standard, like the box or whatever and like the so grainy and stuff. Right, right.

Was he the first winner? Yeah. I liked the first season because that's the only one I watched. But I think he did become problematic. Didn't he like out someone or something? I don't remember. Didn't he? I think he went to jail. That's the only thing I remember. Well, he went did become problematic. Didn't he like out someone or something? I don't remember. Didn't he go – I think he went to jail. That's the only thing I remember.

Well, he went to jail. But definitely like outed someone for being transgender. Oh, I don't remember. He didn't get apologized and then that person was like whatever. It was crazy. Like threw the person under the bus. I forgot. But it was crazy.

Which is wild. But, you know, he's old. I think they should – I mean, at least you have Celebrity Big Brother. So you do have roots in reality TV. That's what I'm saying. They're going to go over gameplay. But also Ivor. Is it like he's in anything?

I know. Sam Azgari? Like, what? No, I was on Celebrity Big Brother. I've been on Who Wants to Be a Superhero. That's true. You have the IMDb. Check the IMDb.

Check it out. I would have been on it. It is crazy. She was on Tana Turns 21. Tana Turns 21. Escape the Night five times. She is a game player. That is crazy. And Tana. She was on Tana Turns 21. Tana Turns 21. Escape the Night five times. She is a game player. That is crazy.

I wouldn't. No. She would have told me if she's asked. I don't think she's ever been asked. Like that is. I think it is a very like niche like older reality show. I like it because again I think there is a it's good to have older people on TV because you know they need a space too. But not like young people on there except for Gabby.

But a lot of Bachelor people. And I get Bachelor nations like a thing, but boring. I think there was only two this time, right? Gabby and Wells. That's too, too many. Like Pete the pilot. Oh, yeah. Last season.

Yeah. I'm just like, I don't – the Bachelor people are boring. But Sam Asghar is definitely the most boring. So boring. Not one minute of your time. Just brings nothing to the table. We havenhar is definitely the most boring. So boring. Not one minute of your time. Just does nothing. Just brings nothing to the table. We haven't seen him talk to people.

Barely. I think someone said he was guilty or whatever, then he was like, me? Not me. And then that was it. It was like, okay. Great. Or at the beginning, someone asked him about Britney. He's like, can't talk about it. Can't talk about it.

It's like, okay, then what are you doing here? What are you doing here? That was the last time somebody talked to him. Literally, like, okay, you won't tell me about Britney, then I'll wrap it up. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like it. But I don't know. I i'm trying to watch i literally watch it because i love em clummy he's so funny and i like his outfits and he cracks me up everyone else i don't know we'll see i hate all the men that went in there though i'm just like so over it i like that

they were in cages though that's funny like so random like why did they do that that's so or when they buried them yeah it is it is it's so theatrical. Yeah. It is. It is. It's interesting. I like it. And Drag Race. Oh, yeah. Drag. Another great episode of Drag Race, too. I love our little recap section.

That's all we have going right now is Drag Race. Acacia forgot. I went through her Instagram. Well, she posted a photo. And she had my old school Trish merch. It was like a tote. Oh, yeah. I saw it in your story. Yeah. I was like I was like my new favorite she's gonna win for sure I was happy to see her survive I was not happy I don't like when they like give her a someone a second chance

to come back into the game you know what I mean so like her Mona Lisa got eliminated and then she got to come back I know I I usually like the eliminations too because I feel like it ups the stakes. But I like Hermona Lisa. So I am biased. I like her too. I think she's cute. And everyone is so like over her. Are they?

Yeah. Like they – I think it was mostly in Untucked maybe. But like I know – I love them all truly. But like Corey King is so over Hermona Lisa. Why? I think because she just made a big deal about RuPaul like choosing her. Oh yeah. Yeah. Everyone's like okay girl we got

it. But also that is her storyline for the first episode. You know what I mean? So like of course she has to mention it. I feel like she's camp about it. She's not like mean. She's not like yeah I'm better than you guys because RuPaul picked. Like I think she's like being unserious about it. Yeah for sure. I think. Did you see her dress up as Inside Out in DragCon?

I loved it. I loved it, too. Everyone was, like, kind of teasing her because in her confessional, she has a bob and a turtleneck and the glasses. And I think on the pit stop with Monet and Raven, they said she kind of is giving sadness from Inside Out. So I love that she made her her brand. I love that, too.

That's my kind of girl. You know, you take the memes and you roll with it, know when someone says you look like and they're like i'm gonna go yeah she kind of did she did and i love her bob i think her bob is cute i think she's cute it's so hard it's hard because there are such a variety of queens and obviously there's some that are like really like polished and just been doing it forever and then there's like newer ones and it's just like it's hard it's hard when you're like a new i love who's the one lexi love i love lexi love and i love that she won and i love that it's so funny they're like i think i think it was chelvisaji even like chuckled at it like ruse like you know she's an older queen in this competition like 33 but it is kind of true when

you look at the other ages i mean people are like 24 23 like they're young and like our sister jules sparkles being like oh, oh, great auntie, don't break a hip when your brother's cheating. She did clarify today that she calls anyone that's 18 or over an auntie. Love her.

I was not age shaming. I was like, okay. Even if Jules Sparkles didn't give us love, I still, I still love her because her confessionals are so funny

and she's just so cute. So gay. I love it. I love it too. I know. I, we just need, that's what I'm saying. Traders is missing love it too i know i we just need that's what i'm saying traitors is missing the gayness yes we just need yeah you should have given us at least one of those cages should have been a drag queen plain jane plain jane should have been in a cave that

would have been so good like we needed our gia gun put gia gun in one of those traitors who was the who was the queen that was on this season that was on it was a special guest she was on the uk version she wears also a kilt she was giving out she was giving traders cheney yeah i like loved her i never saw her before and i was like after this i was like why is she giving out coming in traders she was very like theatrical like someone's gonna die like i was like oh my god i love this this queen we need yeah i think moral of the story just put more queens and traders yeah queens and traders and this season i just i season, I really love them all. I love them all. I love my Latinos, though.

I didn't know Jules was Cuban, so I love Jules even more now. Oh, really? I didn't know that either. Cuban and Puerto Rican, so that's my sister. Oh, yeah. She did that. That was such a good song. Such a good song.

Yeah. Lucky Stars is also Cuban, so my other sister. Oh, my gosh. Wait. Let me see it. Is there another star? Lucky Stars. Is there another star on the season?

I don't think so. Oh, no. Sam Star. Sam Star. Yeah. I was like, wow. No relation. I don't know why everyone has that.

No relation. Is it with two R's or one? Sam Star is I think one R and then Lucky Star is like four Z's. Four C's? Z's. Z's. Stars. Oh, I see.

That's good. Because it's like Patrick Star and Jeffree Star. I always got themarr Are they related? Are they in the same Drag family? And I always forget How many stars Are in Patrick Starr's I mean so many

How many R's Are in Patrick Starr's Two or three I thought I forgot I think it's two Maybe three He wanted to differentiate

Himself from Jeffree Starr I do love it I love the season I think it's been fun So far Do you like Dochi? She was the guest judge Yes

Love I would have pulled Like a Joella crying over Katy Perry. I would have cried over Dochi. I love Dochi so much. No, I didn't know really like her vibe or her aesthetic. Like I knew it from TikTok, you know, because like she was so viral. Like, hi, I'm Dochi with two eyes. Like I knew it, but I didn't really know like her vibe.

And then when I saw her, I was just like, oh my God, so flawless. I mean, everyone looked flawless. I liked Michelle Visage's makeup artist yesterday because I was looking at her makeup. I was like, so good. Lipstick Nick. Lipstick Nick, follow me. I was a little starstruck because liked Michelle Visage's makeup artist yesterday because I was looking at her makeup. I was like, so good. Lipstick Nick. Lipstick Nick, follow me. I was a little starstruck because Lipstick Nick then said – because I followed her and then she like followed me back and then she's like, hi. And I was like – Love.

She has been a dream like makeup artist for me, but she's like so in demand and like no one can book her. Like Jeffree couldn't even book her for her stuff because she's so busy. But she's like does – Kristen from Pentatonix and Michelle's makeup looks so good. I was like, ah. I was like – every time I see their glam, I'm just like, oh, this is so fierce. All the queens too. They always do such good makeup. They have so much heart in there too. Like Traders has no heart to me.

You know what I mean? It's like you get – like you said, like Phaedra, like she gave so much to the show and I just feel like there's no one that I'm like feeling that vibe with where you give so much. I mean Bob's great. Yeah. But everyone else, I'm like, I don't know. Yeah.

Bob's kind of caring right now. Yes. Because Bob's really, Bob's great. Yeah. Everyone else, I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, Bob's kind of caring right now. Yes. Because Bob's really putting everything into it. Yeah. And that's why – just we need more drag. I know. Like we just need more drama queens, you know, like Housewives, Drag Race. Yes.

And then people love that. Like this is the era of that. So it's like why are we not giving more of that? I don't know. Hmm. Something says, well, let me know next casting. I wonder who's – because there's a second season picked up or a fourth season picked up for Two Traitors.

I'm like, I wonder who's going to be on it. You need to throw your hat, your name in the ring for Traitors and guest judge on Drag Race. I don't think either one's happening for me. You know how I can manifest and see things for me? I don't see that for me and I really want it to be, but I'm giving it up graciously. It's fine. You know when you just know, you're like, okay, let me – where was it? I don't see that for me and I really want it to be, but I'm giving it up graciously. It's fine. You know when you just know, you're like, okay, let me, where was it? I don't know.

There was something where you just like, no, there was a girl in a DJ booth and she thought the DJ was vibing with her and then she like watched the video back and he's like calling for security to like get her off. I saw this morning and it was so crazy and everyone's like, girl, read the room. Know where you're not wanted. Cause she thought it was like cute and camp. She posted it, but he was literally just like, and she's like, girl, read the room. Know where you're not wanting. Because she thought it was like cute and camp. She posted it. But he was literally just like.

And she's like doing the move like that too. Like obviously she was drunk. That would so be me though. That's what I'm saying. It's like know where you're not wanting. I still support from afar. But I would love. Whatever filter they use on both Traders and Drag Race.

I need all of that. Yeah. It is really good. They blur. And Khloe's podcast too, actually. I want to go on that podcast. Well, the Kardashians always have that crazy lighting filter situation, though. Like, that's – I mean, that's crazy.

Like, we have a lot of lighting in here, but, like, you kind of get what I look like. You know what I mean? Like, to just blur it out completely. I don't hate it. Maybe we'll get that season three. When's our season three start? I guess in July. Yeah.

Okay. Season three coming soon. A kind of unserious topic. Like, no anticipation or anything. No hype for this one that I saved for the end, I suppose. It kind of was on accident. But regardless, Harry Jowsey revealed that he slid into Sabrina Carpenter's DMs after the day that she broke up or the breakup was announced with Barry Keoghan.

I'm sure it was before. I'm sure you just said that with Barry Keoghan. I'm sure it was before. I'm sure you just said that. The day it broke. I'm sure it was like every month. Yeah. And that he never, that Sabrina never replied. And I was like, well, duh.

Like why would she? I'm sure he's not on Traders. Don't even put that in the universe because I don't know if I'd be able to endure i i don't know if i'd be able to endure i don't know if i'd be able to endure it he's definitely giving these people on that they put on traders i let me god if you're up there please don't let me drag harry jowsey and then let my sister sabrina lynn carpenter and lynn carpenter date him oh my god she would never i don't think so but i'm like in the off chance and this this

is forever because it is on the internet you know so sabrina and lynn please do not date this man because i'm about to go in on him harry jowsey what exactly do you think that you bring to the table that my sister sabrina carpenter is going to give you the time of day i don't know who has deluded you like this really you're just tall white and you have abs other than that literally nothing is being brought to the table i don't laugh at your podcast i don't laugh when you were kristin cavallari it's still he's still doing something no there's no way he's still doing something he's with kristin cavallari i i just i don't care i just don't care i don't i understand that you are a celibate right now.

My condolences to you and your family. He's not having sex right now because his dad passed away. So he can't, he said he just can't get horny. My condolences. I don't wish ill upon you, but I don't like you. That's a crazy story. That's a crazy sentence. That's a great, he said that on his podcast or what? On the Kristen Cavallari podcast.

This is where all this came out of. Wow. What a, okay. Wow. Respect. That's wild. That's such a wild thing to say. podcast or what on the kristen cavallari podcast this is where all this came out of wow what okay wow well respect that's wild that's such a wild thing to say but okay i mean i understand you have to say it i know you're grieving well you could have it could have been worded you know more eloquently but also what else do you expect from harry i suppose i don't know if words are a specialty but please please sabrina let's i keep them away some people are like well she's dating she's dated barry barry isn't like you know traditionally hot why would she go from

barry to harry jowsey talented actor but but her boyfriend before barry was sean uh sean mendez who is traditionally hot so that that is what makes me nervous and barry keoghan is like like, pretty hot compared to, like, Harry Jowsey is, like, giving nothing intellectually. There's nothing. I mean, at least he's, like, an actor and he seems. An artist, yeah. He has an accent. But maybe she's scorned by actors after Barry, you know?

Like, please, please, please. Well, don't go to, like, a himbo. Don't go to the womanizer, I think, is probably safe. They kind of do, though, sometimes. I always feel that, too. I know. Look at Britney when she went to Sam Asghari. I was just like, oh, my like that's why i'm nervous there is something about a successful pop star that loves a low life not saying he's that but you know what i mean just like

i don't know ah yeah i hope not either like again i don't wish any ill to harry jowsey i feel for him just stop using passing me. Just stop using women to further your career. How about that? Did you see that Tana too was exposing all the, I thought everyone knew this

about the Dolan twins and all the Maycon boys how they were all F boys. How do people not know this? Really? That they were like sleeping with everybody and yeah,

all your favorite people which is crazy because to me they all look like little boys and I can't even imagine them getting like all these girls and women because like we were talking about earlier just like being attracted to not even

an older guy but just someone who looks masculine and all these boys were so tiny and little like I can't even imagine I guess Dolan twins I could see but then she was saying like all the Megcon boys which I'm trying to think I like just seeing pictures of them I don't really know their names um what's his name Cameron Dallas like uh Nash Greer that's what I'm saying when you watch that video of like Nash Greer and there's two other boys I don't know who they are but they're talking about how like disgusting it is like women who don't shave their armpits or something like that and like oh I could never date someone who like doesn't shave that's so disgusting

have you ever seen that? No. It's like Nash Greer very young obviously and he's like ew women shave it's so disgusting if I see armpit hair like ew and now he's married to a very gorgeous like girl who like is very natural and very so it's like obviously he's like matured out of that. But it is wild to see that. I was like how are these guys like just hooking up with all the like girls out there? I'm like who? Like what? That's – I can't even fathom it. But Tana's like yeah,

when I came to LA, they were all like that. She just said TikTok about it. And so she was talking about the Dolan twins. Like how do people not know? Because I think Olivia O'Brien also came. I don't know which one is which, but someone dated Emma Chamberlain and then Olivia Brian said her entire first album was about one of the Dolan twins. Oh, what's the other? Ethan and? Grayson. Grayson. Emma's was Ethan. And do you think Olivia's was different? You think she was the other one? Maybe.

Or the same? I have no idea. I thought, I don't know, but I thought one was straight and one was not, but is that wrong? As far, I thought they were both straight. Oh, okay. So maybe it was two different. Maybe it it was the same one but she was saying his favorite color was purple so that's why she had the purple hair and then like all so she was kind of saying he was like this player too which again i look at those videos and i just see like such young boys so i just i don't know i just i've never been attracted to like young like teenage boys or how old were

they i don't know but they were like are they the same age as tana about right so they were probably like 19 yeah so i'm sure they're about the same age and Tana? About, right? So they were probably like 19? Yeah. So I'm sure they're about the same age. No, I'm not saying her. I'm saying me. I never looked. Even when I was like 18, I never thought an 18 year old. Like I never thought Zac Efron in High School Musical was like hot.

I think for them though, no, it's almost like the One Direction stands at the time. Like they're all like around similar age. Like they're about my age, the girls I went to their their concerts with and I'm the same age as like Harry and stuff so and they all wanted to be the ones that like you know hooked up with Harry yeah because I would think I loved NSYNC and they're quite a bit older than me they're like in their 40s now so I was like oh I was like a 13 year old but obviously I wouldn't be hooking up with like Justin Timberlake I'm trying to think who's my age who's like I guess Zac Efron but like I never thought he was hot in like High School Musical. Really?

No, never. I thought – I started thinking he was hot maybe in Greatest Showman. I definitely didn't think like Hairspray. I was like, oh, no. Maybe like Greatest Showman. But maybe I just never – even like High School Boys I never thought were – did you find boys attractive in high school? My crush in high school was a year older than me. He was a senior and I was a junior.

So maybe there's something wrong with me. He was in one episode of Escape the Night. Were you working on it? No, I wish. Did you try to? Like, oh, let me get on the bus. No, I didn't know until I was walking it. And I was like, oh, that's Dennis.

Oh, shout out Dennis. Shout out Dennis. With one N. I loved it. I loved that he had that. Oh, no. He was like a football player, but was like cool. Like, I don't know. He didn't care that I was gay.

Like, he would hang out with me. We had PE together, and he would always just like hang out with me. Oh. He was like a little. He I don't know. He didn't care that I was gay. Like he would hang out with me. We had PE together and he would always just like hang out with me and Oh. He was like a little he'd be a little he would like charity work like being a little flirty back,

you know. Cute. I think I was so obvious that I loved him. So he was always so sweet, you know. That's nice. We were just being nice too.

Do you was he straight or did he end up being gay later on? Yeah. There was a Modern Family episode where Mitch like he goes back to his like town where like this lake where he grew up on and he like kissed a boy and he said he always felt bad

because the boy was like straight or whatever and then he found out he like goes he's like yeah i'm so sorry like that was like weird like you know you're straight he's like no i'm gay and he's like and you rejected me like and you said ew i was the only other gay boy and it was not good enough for you like he was so pissed he's like yeah i just wasn't into you i thank god that was not the case thank you dennis for being straight because i think that would literally be like my 13th reason why that's crazy we're like oh he also was gay just not into me like yeah although there was a lot of gays in my school i think a good amount but they were all hooking up with each other i remember being gagged this is such a random tangent i'll be quick though but i remember being gagged because we went like at our school we had like retreats that we went on

and i remember being gagged when i came – like at our school, we had like retreats that we went on. And I remember being gagged when I came back from the retreat with everyone and then finding out that the gays were all hooking up with each other. And I had no – that was none the wiser. Oh, and you were a part of it. I was none the wiser until like a week later. And then everyone was like, yeah, like I can't believe someone still hooked up with so-and-so. And I was like, wait, I thought we were having a good time praising the Lord. Oh, oh, oh, Christian camp? What?

Oh, did you say that that i missed that part of it because i went to a catholic school so it was like oh it's always that oh school kids are the horniest that's for sure wasn't there a movie like macaulay culkin and manny more saved yes and where is that the thing they were all like horny and having sex that's yeah i i always found that out too like later on people in high school like yeah everyone's hooking up with everyone i was like no, no. Yeah. I didn't know. I guess I wasn't a part of that. But yeah, like young boys, I just never found attractive even when I was young, which is

like fine. If you're 19, you can find 19-year-old attractive. But couldn't have been me. That's for sure. I've always found just old, creepy men. I think it was just because I had like low self-esteem. I don't know. I actually don't know the psychology behind it.

But even when I see like young, like a young Harry Styles, I don't think he's cute. But like seeing him a little older, I was like, okay, he's kind of cute, I guess. But I don't know. Like seeing all those like boys young, like Ethan and Grayson, I'm just like, ooh, like who's having sex? I guess that's better. Yeah. I mean, because yeah, at the time, I guess being their same age, you don't think anything

of it. You're like, oh, they're just my age. I'm just hanging out with these boys. I just always thought like, I always thought in my head, like what if I got pregnant by someone my age? Like, ew. Like, what do are they you know what I mean like that's a good way to think about it yeah like what is what I guess medcom boys could take care of you but like just some random I don't know but then I get a lot of old men they can't take care of you either they're also just struggling and they a lot of people end up using me they were like staying

with me so I don't know none of it really works out at the end of the day. Ugh. Too many creepies. Too many old creepies. Sabrina, stay away from. Oh, yeah. I was like, how did we get there? Tie that one. Did she respond? No.

He said that. Harry said that Sabrina never replied to his DM. Thank God. Let's keep it that way. I feel like he's trying to pull a Travis Kelsey. And just put it out there. And put it out there. And hope that she replies. She's not going to.

But Harry, Jowsey, and Travis Kelsey, not the same. I think she'll probably end up with Marcelo Hernandez, the Domingo. With love. But he is the new Pete Davidson, everyone's saying, that he's dating all these women. I want to say Kaya Gerber. I want to say all these people, allegedly, but he's been hooking up with all these girls, which is wild.

He's a cutie and he's funny. And so nice. I really did like him. He was very, very sweet. I was on SNL and he brought me on stage with his arm and I was like, I love him so much. No, I, yeah, he is that, but it's always those guys, the funny ones that get everyone. But I'm glad we're moving on from Pete Davidson. Because not to say whatever, not that bad, but everyone's just like, Pete, Pete, Pete. I'm like, let's get on the Domingo. Yeah.

And he did make the rounds. There was, no one was safe from Pete Davidson, really. It is so crazy yeah and I know he's had like his own issues and stuff too obviously but maybe that was good like just take some

time work on yourself because he really was dating every every it girl yeah every it girl well I guess this guy is gonna do

um did you see Timothy Chalamet is hosting and musical guest and performing SNL yeah I need to find a way to get back on that

show when he's there I would like to be I'm on the Timothy train, I think, now. I think I like Timothee Chalamet. Yeah. I really would like to go on that episode. I wonder what song he's going to perform. Probably Bob Dylan.

But I hope he does a Wonka song. I would love. Well, there's chocolate. And there's chocolate. And there's chocolate. And there's chocolate. And there's chocolate. And there's chocolate.

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I think that's the only thing I've seen him in and I loved him in that so much Jonathan Bailey I know we're right on time Jonathan Bailey got a Sega Award

nomination yeah oh oh I love the nomination love Jonathan Bailey he's gonna be on the Graham Norton show this week if anyone has tickets

to the Graham Norton show this week with Jonathan Bailey please let me know because they're on Jimmy was was it Jimmy yeah Jimmy was on it he He's like, no, no, no, no. It's my other, sorry, Devin.

Another guy who works on Night Love Line. He was like, the tickets are already sold out. He like loves Graham Norton too and he's like, they're already sold out. So if anyone knows how to get those Jonathan Bailey tickets, let me know. I DM'd Graham Norton. No, reply. You're, you and Harry Jowsey have a lot in common. I could be on this

show actually. I would love to come. So let me know. No, no, not me and Harry Jowsey have a lot in common. You might be on this show, actually. I would love to come. So let me know. No, not me and Harry Jowsey. That's traitors. Pete Davidson, Harry Jowsey, Graham Norton and me. Graham Norton. He has an accent. He should be on traitors.

Just a hop, skip, and a jump in Scotland, really. Oh, man. And now I'm coming. I would love to have you on the podcast. Love, love, love him. Okay. That's it. Stay safe. Anything else? I'm coming. I would love to have you on the podcast. Love, love, love him. Okay, that's it. Stay safe.

Anything else? I'm on tour soon. I don't know what I'm going to do, but it's going to be fun. And Oscar, gaming. I'm here. Yeah. Where's your vlog? Oh, yeah.

I'll have a vlog today. Today. It'll be out today if you want to go watch it when this goes up. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. The pressure's on. Yeah. Have you started it? Uh-huh. you want to go watch it when this goes up yeah wow yeah the pressure's on yeah you started it uh-huh i'm almost done editing it i mean it's really only three clips so it's really easy although it's a big it's us planning 2025 which and we have some good tea in

there we're kind of funny i love that there was 20 minutes of us filling a calendar but we had some good stories in there so yeah there's some good tea in there. That's funny. Oh, and my boyfriend is in it. Oh, that's funny. Darian Reveal is in there too. It's the heavy hitters. Boyfriend. Darian Trisha.

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