Just Trish - Taylor Swift SUES Trisha & David Dobrik FAKED His Body Transformation?

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

The 'Eras of Trish' Tour is upon us... but is Taylor Swift putting a STOP to Trisha's big show for copyright infringement before it even begins? Plus, YouTuber and professional bodybuilder Greg Doucet...te clocks David Dobrik's viral body transformation.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:46 Filthy, rich, pretty, and pink Hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks She's just Trish Yay! Hello! Or should I say hello? Govna? Come across the pond I did.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Got me some fish and chips. Got my britches in a bunch. And came right on back to eat some mushy peas on Just Trish. I'm your presenter today, Trisha Paytas. It's kind of Australian. Oh, really? A little. Good.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I never did an Australian. Yeah, I don't know what that turned into. But I'm back from overseas. I've been filming the. Yeah, I don't know what that turned into, but I'm back from overseas. I've been filming the new season of Bridgerton, everybody. And season four. Yay. People did speculate that. Love that. Love the manifestation. Love the delulu. What if I am in it and I can't say it? I can't say what I worked on. That would be crazy. That would be so fierce. I would keep it a secret. I'm pretty good at keeping secrets these days. Maybe I did.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Who knows? I'll tell you what. I lost a bunch of weight because they do not have... I guess they're probably healthier over there because they don't have preservatives or something. They can't use certain ingredients at McDonald's. They have to use real meat. I was like, ew. Not the pink squishy.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I want that pink gunk. Give me that all day long. We're back. Hi, Just Trish. Okay, you guys. Today we have a new sponsor, Built Rewards. I can't wait for this ad read because it's a new one and it's a doozy and I love it. So fast forward 20 minutes to see our Built Rewards sponsor. We love them.
Starting point is 00:02:19 The Arrows of Trish tour has been officially announced. Taylor Swift has not sued me yet. That is actually surprising. No cease and desist. Does she? Does she do that? Because everyone was saying that. They're like, she's going to sue her.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And I was like, is that a thing she does? Her team is pretty fierce, I will say. Really? For sure. Yeah. But maybe if we just keep on the low, she won't sue us. Well, that's why I made it public. I wanted to know, Taylor and your team, it's an homage to the greatest tour that ever was.
Starting point is 00:02:44 We started this podcast when your tour started. And I didn't know much about Taylor Swift when we started this. But I became a Swiftie and I became obsessed. And I became engaged with it. And I was like, let me pay homage to the great Taylor Swift, who in my opinion, number one touring artist in the world. So why not try to be like her? Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And I have put in the blood, sweat, and tears for Taylor literally since the first era. So I think by proxy, you know. Exactly taylor literally since the first era so i think by proxy you know exactly yeah even the first episode our second episode was dedicated to taylor swift like you've been just hardcore i remember we started this new job and oscar's like i can't do the second episode because i have to go to the eras tour and i was like period didn't know what it meant at the time and now i'm obsessed also your era is predates when does when did taylor swift start 2006 her first era it's pretty close me and her first of all i graduated high school 2006 i was not doing music although i wish i was talking about youtube your era is no your tour this is very different
Starting point is 00:03:40 that's why okay taylor it's different let's just let's just bow down to taylor like taylor you're a queen i cannot compare and it's also the eras just, let's just bow down to Taylor. We're like, Taylor, you're a queen. I cannot compare. And it's also the eras of Trish, may I point out? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's like our, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Because I, like, just like our love line. It's not love line. You know, it's a parody. It's a parody. Okay,
Starting point is 00:03:57 everybody. It is kind of like the drag version. There are, are like drag artists that recreate the eras tour, like of Taylor's version of the eras tour. So, I feel like it's in the same vein. of taylor's version of the era store so i feel like it's in the same vein yeah it's kind of drag era's tour trisha's version yeah
Starting point is 00:04:10 i was trying to think of a way to go i didn't do the bangs or the taylor makeup a bodysuit was similar but our bodies are very different no one's confusing the two no one is like this might be taylor's era's tour coming back you know yours looks good you rock a body should should I must say. Yeah, you did say that. That made me feel confident that day. I was like, thank you so much. I'm going to wear that one on tour, I think.
Starting point is 00:04:31 It was very tight, but I'm going to. It's been a long time coming, but. I turned around. I left that comment on your, like, reveal post. And I'm like, I don't know if Trisha's going to know what this means. Oh, no idea what that meant. I thought you just meant like this has been a long time coming like it has. That's how the Aeros tour opens.
Starting point is 00:04:48 It goes, it's been a long time coming. It's been a long time coming. Remember when you watched it? Remember in the beginning where things start waving around and then. I should do that. That should be my intro. She like combines lyrics from all her different eras. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Into one. So you could do that. It's like you crying. Yeah, the montage. I love you cheese. I freak, freak, freak, freak, freak, freak. Oh, she teases it all. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yes. I've got to watch it again. I've got to make notes. Take some notes. How to format mine. I stole Sabrina Carpenter's short and sweet one for this last Trishmas. I'll do. I'll find out what the era is. Did she do little vignettes in between? I got to see what – Yeah, little transitions that go in between.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I will not find that, but – No, I will. I should do a Taylor cover. I was thinking about doing a secret song in each city that has to pertain to the city, so I'm like maybe that might happen. It might be just acapella. I don't know if I have time to get the whole thing around, but I'm excited. I'm glad the Swifties that got it, got it. There were a couple Swifties that's like, this is not it. I hope Taylor Swift but some of the Swifties were like, no, she's paying homage. Yeah, and as like the
Starting point is 00:05:54 Swifty veteran, I feel like that gives you like a good shield. You know what I mean? Yeah, because I was putting in the work for Taylor before a lot of these girlies were alive. 2006, were you there? Literally 2006. And what were you doing? Yes, Tim McGraw. I bought the album on iTunes.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Oh, period. Yeah, before streaming even. Oh, so you didn't have a choice. I didn't have a choice. I didn't buy it. You do buy all her albums. You go to Target. Multiple albums.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Like even back in the day. Like I remember when Fearless, her second album came out, I was officially a stan. And my mom took me to Walmart before school even started on Veterans Day, might add because i think it was 11 11 or something oh but you have a good memory i literally remember it so vividly because then i remember going into my like my first class and be like sorry i'm late everyone i had to go get taylor's album and then someone called me an f slur so shout out travis not kelsey but did the teacher say anything that's crazy um
Starting point is 00:06:46 honestly I don't know but she was an ally Mrs. Williamson she was pretty fierce yeah that was my girly did he get kicked out or did he just like
Starting point is 00:06:53 sit down I don't think he got anything you know the jocks back in the day they kind of got away with a lot of reckless behavior but
Starting point is 00:07:00 they were jealous they were so mad looking me out my pinned Instagram is me and Taylor Swift Travis so suck on that twice did yeah that's actually but i would love to have her on the podcast i love her i love her but i'm trying not to be too much of a swifty because i want to be
Starting point is 00:07:14 um like friends you know what i mean i can't be like too fanny because i think anyone i'm like a super fan of i just i maybe get a little nervous i think her i could give her some real friendship you know what i mean like I'm not a fan. I just – I respect you. A casual, yeah. A casual. A colleague, you know. A colleague. There you go.
Starting point is 00:07:30 You guys share a stage. We're one year off. My next album will be called 1988. We're very close. But anyways, the Errors of Trish Tour, you can go on Ticketmaster. Some shows are not on Ticketmaster. By the way, we sold out 23 cities already. I have all the cities that are sold out here.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Right here. They're all sold out. Like literally all of them. Except the ones that aren't. And I think I know why. Because Cleveland is like my hometown. That's where all my family's from. And I was like, how come Cleveland's not selling?
Starting point is 00:07:57 But it wasn't on Ticketmaster, they said. I guess the venue is not a Ticketmaster venue. So you might have to go to like Vivid Seats or something. I don't know. My thing has the Outback thing if you want to go to all the ticket links. But we sell tickets in Detroit, Cleveland, Houston, Portland, and Pittsburgh. And Detroit is like a huge venue. So that makes sense why we would not sell it.
Starting point is 00:08:13 All these other ones, I'm very excited. Toronto sold out in a minute. There was like 6,000 people in line. Honestly, I should play at an arena next time. That's what I told them. I'm like, get me an arena. And I always said this about Toronto. It's not even anything. Even in my flop era, I had like 800 people in Toronto show up. Like,
Starting point is 00:08:27 Toronto loves me. And I don't know why. I don't know what it is up there. I don't know, but I love it. Trish Ronto. Yeah. Maybe you'll get a key to the city or something. That'd be everything. I don't have a key to any of these cities. Maybe not. Which one don't I know? I don't know some of these cities. Do you know where I suck at geography to preface before you ask? Someone told me I had like two North Carolina shows and I was like, I don't know what that means. I don't even know which one. It doesn't say
Starting point is 00:08:53 states on here, so I'm confused. I have no idea what's in North Carolina. I would guess because I don't know what Tyson's or Charlotte is. Charlotte's North Carolina for sure. Atlanta. Which one? Carolina for sure. Atlanta. Which one? Atlanta. Atlanta, Georgia? Oh, okay. So that's not it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 God, I don't know. Raleigh must be one of the North Carolina. Yes, that's North Carolina. North Carolina. Oh, they're both. Okay, I don't know. I think. Or South Carolina. I'm going to be discovering all these cities. Kansas City. Maybe we'll see Travis Kelsey there. Oh my God, yeah. Go see the Chiefs game.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I don't know. I don't really know a lot of these cities, but City. Maybe we'll see Travis Kelsey there. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Go see the Chiefs game. I don't know. I don't really know a lot of these cities, but I'm excited to go. Actually, I really like it because when I've never been to a city, I think it's cool. Salt Lake City is wild. That's like, I'm going to get a swig up there. I was going to say, you can finally get it. Yeah. I'm going to get the swig, the Whataburger in Texas.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I'm going to get the Amici pizza. Your TikTok is going to be fierce on the road. The food you're going to get. Yeah. Thank God TikTok's back. I thought about that. I was like, is this tour going to be worth it if I don't have TikTok? It's just like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:49 People go and you film the show and then you post it. People are TikTok-living. Oh, I love that. That's so smart. Yeah, it really is Aera's tour vibes. Is live back? I thought the live tab was... Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Moses, there was no live tab this morning. It's on the tab. You can go live. It just comes up on the For You page. Oh, but you can't go to like a live and just scroll through? All right. Well, anyways,
Starting point is 00:10:08 thank you guys for buying all the tickets. Truly, I'm, in all sincerity, I actually am like super shocked, for real, at like selling out so many shows because like, it makes sense to do like one or two
Starting point is 00:10:17 and you sell out, but like all these cities and also like, I haven't heard of half of these, so I'm glad there's people there. And thank you for coming. It's cool. I love you guys. That's's cool. I love you guys.
Starting point is 00:10:25 That's so cool. I'm super excited. We're going on tour. And then my Broadway show is February 3rd, and we announce the special guests this Wednesday. So look on all my socials. It's fierce. It's really fierce. Fierce.
Starting point is 00:10:37 This lineup is like beyond A-list, not only in the theater world, but like a mainstream world. I kind of can't like think about it because I think I would psych myself out. I'm like – I was kind of making myself a little like sick over like the weekend thinking about it because I was just like – I was like what – because you know I love singing. I love performing. But these are like the most like most top talented humans in the whole world. And I'm just like what am I doing?
Starting point is 00:11:01 I'm singing with them? Like this is – oh, God. I don't know. But, you know, I'm just going to. And it's for charity. It's for charity. There you go. Ticket sales, online streams, merch, all of it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You know, it's going to the Entertainment Community Fund, which is helping people out here in the LA wildfires, which is really cool because we were like talking to them about it. And Netflix did just a huge donation to Entertainment Community Fund. And it just helps people in crisis and times of need and stuff like this. So it was cool that they donated a bunch of money. So it's good. And yeah, that is the best part, which is why we have all these talents coming out to raise the money. Well, I guess it's like sold out, but you can still get online streaming tickets to show on Broadway because it is going
Starting point is 00:11:36 to be actually insane. And I'm trying not to think about it because I would get overwhelmed. But also I came back from London and shout out Anna. She was the makeup artist, one of the lead makeup artists on the project I was doing. And she loves your vlogs and she gave one of these for you. Me? Yeah, she said she just watched her vlog. Oh wow, I'm glad I threw it, okay. She got Percy Pigs for us. That is so sweet. Yeah, she's like
Starting point is 00:11:58 this is for you and Oscar. She had just watched your vlog. She literally was like, oh yeah, I got you a little cookie biscuits. I got you a Harrods mug over there for your tea um she yeah she was she's a huge like she really i love when people actually like show their fandom because a lot of times people like i'm a huge fan whatever but she like knew everything about you everything about me she got this sweatshirt for me because she's like oh it's it's like it's like Brooke's sweatshirt that you wanted. The San Diego one, right? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And so she's like, and then you can wear it on the podcast because it's like pink or whatever. Or she didn't even say, I just decided I'm going to wear it on the podcast because it's pink. But she probably knew that. And she was like the head makeup artist on this project. She works with like, she just did Timothee Chalamet's makeup when he was over there. What? Yeah, she's like this big, big, she does Rosalie she does like the biggest people. And
Starting point is 00:12:44 like, I was just kind of like shook. I was like, she was like, no, I'm likealie, like she does like the biggest people. And like I was just kind of like shook. I was like, she goes, no, I'm like such a, it was like so cool. And she was like such a cool girl. And yeah, I like loved her. So she got us these Percy pigs and this and it was just so much fun. So thank you everyone in London. I would love to go back. We may have to move the podcast there because I really do enjoy London. I'd be so skinny.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I would be so skinny not eating. But the people are so nice. And I was like, honestly, who needs to eat when people are so sweet? I couldn't eat anything, but it's fine. Have you been? No, never. Really? I'm shocked.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I would love to go, though. You know what? Tana was just telling me she went to London for the Eros tour randomly. Yeah, I remember her and Paige went. Oh, that's so odd. Like, why did they fly all the way over there for that? I think it was cheaper to get tickets overseas, like in Europe, than it was – including the flight and everything, which is crazy. It was cheaper to get tickets to the heiress tour overseas than it was to get tickets in America.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It's because I think in Europe they have stricter laws about like reselling tickets. I see. Whereas like here, it's kind of wild. Like a $500 ticket is like $20,000 resale. Yeah. That's actually – that seems illegal for sure. You didn't go over to London for the heiress tour? No.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I don't even have a passport. I should probably get that fixed. Really? Yeah. You need to get one because we're moving over there. I want to do like long term. I'm like maybe like the British in season five or something. I can move over there.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I would love to go over there long term. I'm just very nice. People are nice. It's always like cloudy and gloomy but I kind of like it. That is kind of the vibe. Right? Yeah. It's like not hot and you don't but I kind of like it. That is kind of the vibe. Right? Yeah. It's like not hot.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And you don't feel like you have to be outside because it's not a nice day. Here you feel pressure to go outside. There is a pressure. Yes. Yeah. Springtime. Like everyone's like, what a beautiful day. I'm like, well, I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Same. I was like, we should go outside. I'm like, no. And in London, everyone's staying inside. And I love that so much. It's wonderful there. And I love everyone there. And I can't wait to show you guys what I did. I did. It's wonderful there. And I love everyone there. And I can't wait to show you guys what I did.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I did a lot of stunt work. Stunt work? I did some stunt work. Oh, mama. She does her own stunts, y'all. I was. It's like Tom Cruise over here. I did.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I got the behind-the-scenes footage. I did some stunt work I wasn't aware of. There was pyrotechnics. I was just – Did you have to run? No. Oh, thank God. I was sitting.
Starting point is 00:14:45 But I had to climb. Yeah. i was did you have to run no i was i was sitting but i had to climb yeah it was she had to fly running would have been wild can you actually run for us i was like no um and i already posted but alex consani was there that is crazy which is that was so weird we just talked about her on the podcast i was like that's not anyone call she i was like that is but she is booked and busy she's going to turks and then she's going to fashion week she's like everywhere so she like she just happened to be on this. I was like, that is – but she is booked and busy. She's going to Turks and then she's going to Fashion Week. She's like everywhere. So she like – she just happened to be on this job. It was like such a weird coincidence. But she was just cool in real life. Very young.
Starting point is 00:15:10 21. Wild. So young. So young. In the top model of 2024, which is crazy. Oh, my God. Probably 2025 too. Really.
Starting point is 00:15:18 She is top model. She is. And she's so funny and so nice. You know when you meet someone pretty and then they're just like also so nice and so funny? That's sick. You got to pick one. You know what I mean? No. And she's cracking up everybody. It you know when you meet someone pretty and then they're just like also so nice and so funny that's sick you gotta pick one you know what i mean like and she's cracking up everybody and the whole crew's laughing and i'm like damn and i always
Starting point is 00:15:30 thought i had a pretty big personality but i really do become a wallflower when i'm around other people because like there are just so many amazing personalities out there and i'm just like let me just be in the corner but she was so nice and we were so sweet and we had a key and it was fun and i was only there a little bit i didn't really get to see much. But I do hope to go back. But I am jet lagged. I did watch Blink Twice on the airplane. Oh, that's the Zoe Kravitz movie? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Have we not talked about it? I thought you liked it. No? I haven't seen it yet. Oh. What? We did talk about it a little bit. Because the original name for the movie was Island.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yes. I've been talking about this. I thought we talked about this. And you're like, oh, I love it. No? I haven't seen it. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I thought you were like, this is a great movie. It was actually good. It was better than I thought we talked about this and you're like, oh, I love it. No? I haven't seen it. No. Okay. I thought you were like, this is a great movie. It was actually good. It was better than I thought. You know what movie I saw over the weekend was One of Them Days with Kiki Palmer and SZA. Oh. And it was so good. So not sponsored, but everyone go see this movie because it is like the first female, like black female buddy comedy in like 20 years or something.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Really? female like black female buddy comedy in like 20 years or something really and the crew uh like behind the scenes predominantly black um isa ray produced it um and i love she does um insecure she was in barbie oh yeah yeah oh my gosh um and it's just so funny and this is the first movie yeah kiki and sisa are the two leads and it is like literally from beginnings and the funniest movie it's my new letterboxd like top four really yeah i think no hard feelings is out one of them days is in i fear i've seen them promoting it i haven't seen like a trailer or anything it hasn't been like getting that much press weirdly but it is number one for the weekend at least oh that's great then so it's like crushing it yeah it made i think 11 million 11 or 12 million um but it's like a
Starting point is 00:17:06 small budget like comedy and it is just it is so good it is it's so good to have like a female comedy again i loved it i need to see it again what would you like compare to when you say like buddy comedy like what does that mean like i think like the two guys the two guy comedies oh like um 21 jump street with like channing tatum and jon Hill. Are they cops? No, they're just two roommates. I think buddy cop when I think about the buddy cop film. Okay, so just buddy. Like two best friends. Got it.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah, it's like that kind of. And they get into mishaps. And SZA was good. SZA, so good. Her first movie. Because Kiki's amazing. Yeah. It's insane that it's her first movie because she actually has such great comedic timing.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Also does some of her own stunt work in that too. Really? Yeah, you and SZA have a long comment. Let's get her on the pod. And it is so good. So I need everyone to see it. If I can influence anyone to do anything, see One of Them Days. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Go see One of Them Days and blink twice on the Virgin Atlantic plane. And the Milli Vanilli movie I watched. Go watch that one too. That was good. I knew nothing about it. I loved it. I mean, that's great. You sold me on it. Do you want to see a movie? I want to see Last Show Girl too. I haven't seen that yet. So I watched. Go watch that one too. That was good. I knew nothing about it. I loved it. I mean, that's great. You sold me on it.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Do you want to see a movie? I want to see Last Showgirl too. I haven't seen that yet, so I need to go see that. Oh, is that out already? Yeah, but it might actually be out because it was such a limited release. Oh, yeah. I want to see that one too with Pam Anderson. That one looks good.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Substance, I need to see. I know you said you saw it. I haven't seen Substance either. Oh, what? No. Why do I think you saw all these? Because we talked about it as if we've seen it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:24 You saw it. You're like, it's good. It's good. It's the body horror of it all. That's right. I'm not like a body horror kind of girl. But I stand beside everyone who loves it. I believe everyone who thinks it's a great movie.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Love the memes that have come out of it. Same. I want to see it just for the memes. Yeah, same. I want to like be a part of the conversation. But everyone I talk to who's seen it. Because I'm like, what's the vibe? Like, will I get grossed out by it?
Starting point is 00:18:45 And everyone was like, you probably will. So I'm like, OK. Thank you to the sponsor of today's episode, Built Rewards. PSA for anyone who rents. If you haven't heard of Built, you're about to thank me. Earning points on rent is now a reality when you pay your rent through Built. You don't even have to check with your landlord to start earning points that you can use toward flights, hotel stays, fitness classes, and even your next rent payment. Let me break it down for
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Starting point is 00:20:02 But I don't know what that means. Or the context. Yeah. I don't think that's okay to say. I don't know. But I'm like, you're like what I would go for as a week. I wish I could be you for the week you're like my substance. But I don't know what that means. Or the context of it, yeah. Yeah, hopefully that's okay to say. I don't know. But I'm like, you're like what I would go for as a week. I wish I could be you for the week. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:09 I don't know. Like, hopefully that's, yeah. I would like to see that one because they say, I saw somewhere like PopCraft, someone's like, Demi Moore is predicted to win the Oscar. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:20:16 that's wild considering the nominees this year. Yeah, Variety switched their prediction for best actress to Demi Moore. From who? I forgot who it was before. i think it was someone from conclave or the brutalist i forget um but then they switched it to demi more who wasn't even predicted to get a nomination at first so that's crazy i need to watch it because now that makes me want to watch it i was like okay damn she must be yeah it's a big deal because horror movies never really get into like award season.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So the fact that a horror movie, especially body horror, is in the running is nuts. Who directed it? I forget who directed it. I think it was a... Female?
Starting point is 00:20:57 I want to say... Love female directors. I've been working with female directors. This thing I worked on over the weekend was female director. It was Coralie Fagaret. Love. Yeah. i think i would only work with female directors oh she's french
Starting point is 00:21:09 sounds like a french directors yeah oh yeah you're right because who's the other one amelia perez yeah interesting that's interesting i i love it i love female directors i think that's why i like doing twice because zoe kravitz i worked with the female director over the weekend i think like only female directors get the vibes you know what i mean yeah and not enough of them not enough of them yeah um i had another really a really random tangent too that i thought was funny kind of um of the makeup artist who said she watched my vlog um because i got a lot of comments from people, especially Trish Crave, actually, that said my boyfriend reveal in the vlog
Starting point is 00:21:46 kind of looked like an apology video. And I thought that was shockingly accurate. It really did. It was giving apology video. But how else were you supposed to say it? Well, especially like, I wanted the Christmas tree to be in the background. And really, I don't have like any seats
Starting point is 00:22:02 or anything in front of it. So I'm like, I guess I have to sit on the floor. Oh, the floor is always a little awkward. i was gonna say it does feel sad like we're on chicken fry in the bathroom like i'm like can we like get on a chair a bathtub i didn't even think of it until like after actually when i was doing the thumbnail because i was gonna put me in daring as the thumbnail it's like my vlogs oh boyfriend reveal and then it literally was looking like the joey graceffa daniel preda rebroke up video because like my arm oh boyfriend reveal and then it literally was looking like the joey graceffa daniel preto rebroke up video because like my arm was around him and i was like this is looking a
Starting point is 00:22:30 little odd and then i saw the comments that were like it's giving apology video and i was like you guys are so correct yeah they clocked it i'm like you made a point so what did you change it to uh me and you yeah yeah what was it was the title like having a meeting or something oh yeah production meeting that was a wild title for you because you're so good at titles. I'm like, this sounds like a me title. It's kind of camp. Okay. What's actually – I was actually trying to channel you.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Like I have titles in my head for upcoming vlogs. Like when people say that your titles of your vlogs look like Lana Del Rey album titles, that's kind of the vibe I'm trying to go for. Don't go for that because mine get less views than you. So I was like, let's not go for the Trisha titles. I think it's so camp. It was funny. It was random because you're so good at less views than you. So I was like, let's not go for the Trisha titles. I think it's so camp. It was funny. It was random because you're so good at like thumbnails and like titles.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I was like, that's random. But okay. I love it. I love the campiness of your – I'm like, listen, if Lon Sundahl for MJ is going to be an octave, I feel like it's my duty to kind of bring that vibe. Yeah. I was going to bring it back because of the TikTok ban.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I'm like, back to the mukbangs I go, you know. But I love TikTok and I was like not ready for it. But yeah, Daniel prayed. Speaking of, did you see everyone was like revealing their deep, dark secrets on TikTok? Yes, as like their goodbye. First of all, why do they do that? Everyone's just like, I'm a liar, basically. I'm like, I trust nobody.
Starting point is 00:23:37 But Daniel and Joey was like, we never broke up. Any truth to that? Joey's coming on the podcast. You think it's true? No, but. Sources have confirmed it's not. so they did that just to troll i think so but honestly they stayed into it like they've been doing that since 2020 i'm like let's ride this out forever everyone's just like literally being like i never ate the food in the mukbangs i never worked out i was like this is crazy like
Starting point is 00:24:02 i'm like why are y'all outing yourselves like this because I even as it was going down I still believed it was going to come back yeah and I but I also didn't think I was going to get banned in the first place so I was almost gaslighting myself I was like well it was wrong already but as everyone was like crying and saying goodbye I was like there's just no way like right but then when it did happen it felt so real I actually was so scared because I was just like obviously I don't make a lot of money on TikTok. But I was like, wait, that's where I get like my hot topics. Like how?
Starting point is 00:24:28 I know. What do we watch? We go back to Rich Lux, you know, like, who are we watching for news? It's like crazy. Yeah, even for me too, because like, we had a like, my manager was like, okay, download your favorite TikToks that you want to keep in your resume or whatever, because in case you don't have access to them anymore. And I was like, oh, damn, this is starting to feel very real she wanted me to do a goodbye she was like maybe
Starting point is 00:24:48 you should film a little goodbye and like put yourself at your desk and I was like oh that's cute I'm like I don't know about that but you didn't do it no that's camp though everyone was saying goodbye like it was like titanic just going down like we're all going down people were crying and so I mean I felt it I just like couldn't produce the tears I definitely felt sad about it and there are so many people who do just do t. Like that would be awful. I was more sad for like one, the relevancy. Obviously it's kept me relevant. Thank you everybody. But two, it was like also just like finding news and like finding out about things. I was like, I don't know. And also I had nothing to do with my time. I remember I got back on Saturday and then Sunday morning,
Starting point is 00:25:18 we filmed that love line yesterday, but then we had time in bed and I was like, you can just like lay in bed for like an hour before you have to get ready. And I was like, okay. And then I laid and there was no TikTok and I was like, what do I do? I'm just like, I should just – I guess I'll just get up and, I don't know, hang out with the family. Usually I just scroll TikTok for a little bit. Probably for the better at points to get off TikTok for a little while. But I was so happy. It came back and I mean, what was it?
Starting point is 00:25:41 Like eight hours and I was just like – I guess the total was like 14 hours. But it was like eight hours for us because we get up early. And then it was like during glam. Everyone was like, TikTok's back. I was like was it like eight hours and I was just like so like I guess total is like 14 hours but it was like eight hours for us because we get up early and then it was like during glam everyone's like tiktok's back I was like oh my god it felt like I like wanted to cry it felt like the best it is crazy how it was only gone for 14 hours I thought it was gonna be maybe two days max yeah I thought at least 24 yeah the date will come back yes so the quickness was wild that was really insane why did they do that? I don't know. I literally thought like they would at least wait until the inauguration happened.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But no, they were quick with it. Maybe the outcry was just so intense that they were like, damn, the point was proven, you know. Maybe they were scared. They're all like, damn, these people are going to riot. People are calling 911. Yes. People were literally calling 911, which is nuts. Someone started a fire.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Like a 19-year-old literally got upset and lit a house on fire because TikTok was down. That's so scary. It's intense. What's your secret reveal? You're like, well, since TikTok's going down, what would have been your secret reveal? That's a good question. I feel like I kind of put everything out there as my problem. Very –
Starting point is 00:26:37 I feel like, no, you probably have so many secrets you can reveal. I really don't have that many secrets, really. My secret is like – Your secret? Let me think. I don't know either. I'm kind of the many secrets, really. My secret is, like, your secret. Let me think. I don't know either. I'm kind of the same way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Especially here. We just talked for so long that I'm like, I'm pretty sure I've said everything, really. I had a good secret, actually, that I was going to reveal. And I was like, TikTok will probably come back in, like, a day. So I was like, let me know. But I did have a very big secret, but I can't reveal it. Maybe, like, no. Yeah, I have none.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I wanted to do one. I'm trying to think of you as a troll. Like, okay. Remember we said we wanted to start the lie that you were a background actor on the Titanic? I still love that. Guys, coming clean, I lied about being on Titanic. Is that what it is? No, I
Starting point is 00:27:19 actually was in Titanic. Oh, a double lie. It's like doubling down on it. Guys, I have a confession. I was the one who paid off Casey Neistat to not release that documentary. Oh, man. I don't know. Yeah, that's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It was nice to be with David Dobrik free for a while. I thought he was going to start making vlogs every week and I was like having anxiety. So I'm like, thank God he's just not one. It was nice to be with David Dobrik free for a while. I thought he was going to start making vlogs every week and I was like having anxiety. So I'm like, thank God he's just not back. Yeah. I think he said in the podcast – I heard a clip where it was like he confirmed that his video was not a comeback video. He just wanted to post something. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. It's like maybe in Christmas time. Obviously sponsored posts. That's the reason you'll do it. What is it called again? Zilla. Zilla Fitness. Yeah. Everyone's getting on that Zilla fitness is i do wonder like i do i want to be on it i wonder how that helped like did a lot of people sign up for it after that i wonder what
Starting point is 00:28:13 the like uptake was definitely like if you think of young boys that want to be ripped you know yeah a lot of girls a lot of girls on tiktok to like bigger girls being like i need to sign up for zilla i mean i guess it sounds like a good idea i guess i would do it if they paid me a million dollars there was um a body builder influencer that came out and did like a reaction and um said that david dobrik likely used uhEDs for his transformation. So that was, I mean, obviously it's just his opinion, but his, let me read
Starting point is 00:28:52 his rationale. It kind of makes sense, I guess. He says, when I compare everything, the puffiness of the face, the fact that I do see gyno-comastia, the fact that he's single-digit body fat, the fact he was able to lose all that fat and build muscle at the same time,
Starting point is 00:29:09 I do believe that it's more likely than not that he is in fact on performance-enhancing drugs. And he speculates maybe like testosterone or HRT to help that happen in his opinion. I think that's probably what most people think. I mean, when you have like that low of body percent fat and stuff, I mean, that's kind of obvious, right? Like especially in a pretty quick time frame, what was it, four months? Because it was like the year total, but like for the last four months is when he did the transformation.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So like that makes sense to get like ripped like that and so lean. And sometimes the issue to begin with is low testosterone. Yeah. So a lot of people, I don't know, kind of a Joe Rogan, like they take testosterone. I mean, a guy saw one too. He's like, yeah, he's probably on it. He's like, I probably don't care. But like they should probably disclose it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:29:54 If it's like you're trying to sell a fitness dream to someone who's not going to do that. Yeah, you're right about that. Same thing with like the people who do like the GOPs, you know, like. Yeah. Yeah. If you have something helping you. Yeah.'s fine just admit it because you do have to like work obviously if like eat less and like work out if you like want to keep it so it's like to say you're aided in something is not like the worst thing ever yeah i think i would respect it more if he did you know yeah but i guess that
Starting point is 00:30:19 wouldn't sell the dream of just anyone can do this you know i think if i was like a fan and he said that i'd be like okay well i will do that and that right right right yeah like he's not getting paid by the oh true clocked it wow you're right yeah unless z-led testosterone comes out i guess but yeah interesting i guess that does make sense because it is insane how much lean muscle and like definition he has it still is odd to me. Like I'm literally looking at the photo right now and like the pecs, like the fibers between the pecs is odd. It's just so different.
Starting point is 00:30:55 It's so different. Like it's before and after. It's like it's really just like you change the whole shape of your body and muscles like your actual muscle. Like it looks like pec implants or something. You know what I mean? Not even the bigness of them but at least the shape or the fibers as you know whatever it is but it is very yeah it's definitely different yeah um but also although that he got so ripped and then like his podcast is audio only it's like wouldn't you want to like show it yeah do a shirtless podcast you
Starting point is 00:31:17 know what i would be like i'd like lose the weight do all that and then i'd be like okay i'm just gonna eat some pasta or something you know what i mean he probably wants to eat some food and just get back to because probably to keep that you, you probably have to eat like chicken and vegetables and that's it, right? Yeah. It is like a long-term commitment. Especially he's so lean. Yeah. Because if you eat like some carbs, like it does puff you out, right?
Starting point is 00:31:35 Like doesn't it make you puffy or bloated when you're that lean? I think so. Well, you need obviously some – there's different kinds of carbs. So you do need some carbs obviously. Like lasagna. He eats lasagna. I feel like skinny people, that's why they have those little bellies when they eat and mine never does because i just always look like that it's so funny when skinny people eat
Starting point is 00:31:50 and they have these little pregnant bellies and i'm just like my belly just looks like that all the time it's what is it from bridesmaid when mons mccarthy's like i never blow i was like honestly same you're just always like that and same girl so in that case i, I like when I don't have to be so skinny because even like models and stuff, I mean, I'm sure they do have to like, you know, if they eat like a burger, it shows a little bit. But me, I'm like, just give me two. I had pasta every lunch and it was so good. It's great.
Starting point is 00:32:17 That's the great thing about being plus size influencer. People expect you to eat. And they really do. They'll be feeding you like five meals a day. They think you eat like all the time and I. They'll be feeding you, like, five meals a day. They think you eat, like, all the time. And I love it. I'm like, yeah, keep bringing those snacks. Someone, one of the people, they, like, they Googled.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I think it was, like, on Reddit. I feel like it was, like, five days before the shoot. Someone on Reddit put, like, Trisha Paytas' favorite snacks. And they had it all in there. They had the Cheez-Its and the Rice Krispies. The Grapefruit. I was like, wow, they really know me. That's a great, like, guide to have on there.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I know. And they were very accurate because they got me the Wingstop Chicken Fingers and the Butter Noodles and all these, like, really good snacks. I was like, wow, they really know me. That's a great guide to have on there. I know. And they were very accurate because they got me the Wingstop chicken fingers and the butter noodles and all these really good snacks. I was like, wow, you guys are really – Gatorade is banned over in the UK. Did you know that? No. Is it because of the colors? Must be.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Must be something not good in it. Is Prime allowed overseas? I was going to ask that. That's interesting. KSI can't even sell in his own country. They don't accept it here. Oh, I wonder. Oh, it says, well, prime drinks are generally available in Europe.
Starting point is 00:33:09 The legality can vary depending on the country due to regulations on specific ingredients. Oh, I guess because it's like they have the caffeinated versions. So some countries like Slovenia ban the sale of prime energy drinks because those ingredients are not permitted. Interesting. Maybe – can you Google why Gatorade is banned? It must be Red 40. Yeah. I think Red 40 is banned here now or Red 3 or something got banned here in the United
Starting point is 00:33:31 States. So like Skittles and stuff will be different. The Skittles over there do taste very different. I wonder if they like take that out. Oh, I mean brominated vegetable oil, BVO, is a food additive that's banned in the EU and it's used in some certain gatorade flavors oh interesting yeah it's probably better they're probably gonna be healthier over there i have never thought about brominated vegetable oil in my life no i didn't know that was a thing
Starting point is 00:33:59 oh my god it's in everything i know it's so crazy that it's it's like bad over here or over there but here it's like totally fine. I guess that is the pro of like cooking your own stuff because then you know like exactly what oils are in it because you could think you're eating healthy but like you order. But you don't know what they're using to cook the chicken or something. You know? Like what kind of oil. Oh, we need to do our Patreon shoutout. Go to patreon.com slash justtrish if you want to see us eat Panda Express and do Hot Topics. That was a couple weeks ago but it was good we have a lot of good uh hot topics we
Starting point is 00:34:28 uh do on patreon patreon.com slash just trish and we reacted our latest uh episode on patreon we reacted to gabby hannah's escape the nightmare which is it's so fierce like literally i need to have jimmy put this clip in because when we realized that you were the whistleblower that kind of instigated the drama between Gabby and Joey the reaction was I like I don't think I've ever been so gagged in my life that was so funny he was doing that but girl don't Oh my god. First of all, I'm like so skinny in this though. My face is so skinny. This was definitely 2019 for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And I wasn't even involved. But Tana was there when it all happened. When the chicken nightmare happened. And she like yelled and screamed. She had like first hand accounts. So she's coming on as a guest this week. And she is going to spill the tea on Escape the Night.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Oh my God, love, love. Because like what we discovered through it, right? And by the way, I love Gabby Hanna. I think I'm coming to Pittsburgh. I think if you want to perform with me, am I coming to Pittsburgh? I am. And it's sold out. If you want to come perform Butterflies with me in Pittsburgh, I would love to have you.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Because watching it back hindsight with like new eyes, 2025 eyes, like it is just like camp. It's all very unserious like it but it was so serious including me I was angry I was pissed I was like everyone knows Gabby like I was so pissed and like looking back my apologies to anyone that I hurt in this but it like it's just not serious you know what I mean it's just like not that serious and it was serious to her I get it in the moment but I think like the videos and all the aftermath of it, everyone could agree was a little. Yeah. I think everyone – well, I guess you and Gabby were very unwell.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Like you can see Gabby like – Oh, yeah. From beginning to middle to end like just kind of lose – I don't know. Like what do you think it is? Kind of just like lose her thoughts I guess? Yeah. You kind of lose the plot as they would say. You're very,
Starting point is 00:36:29 yeah, I don't know what she has. She had stated in that video that she doesn't have mental illness, but maybe there was just something like anxiety or whatever. She has ADHD, something was affecting her. So yeah, and I relate a lot to that. When I was watching it, I was like, oh gosh. Then sometimes you watch it and you're just like, oh man, that was, she seems great now, which is good, which is why we watch it and it's all, but do give her credit like there are points where like she made a point there you know what i mean and then joey watched his reaction videos that coming up this week his reaction video to it so um it's kind of fun to watch like old drama videos because everyone's healed yeah people have moved on everyone's healed like joey is fine with gala i think i don't maybe it's one-sided kindness i don't know i don't know if he's talked to gabby but he doesn't hold anything against her well he accepted her
Starting point is 00:37:08 apology that she didn't make directly to him which i loved she did a generic apology and he's like i accept it i say it too i mean i accept your apology she's like that was not for you but it was funny and um i mean she looked good her body was banging and she looked great and um it was crazy to see it all go down. It was fun. We've like spent like an hour and a half reacting to that. Yeah. Were we eating?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Oh, we had some veggie spring rolls on that one. Yes. Yeah. Oh, back to the MSG, I guess. Oh, yeah. MSG is also Madison Square Garden, which I would like to perform Trishmas at this year. We don't have a New York City tour on the stop, but maybe Christmas. I said Carnegie Hall, but I'm thinking Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 00:37:46 So I want to play Madison Square Garden and maybe like Crypto. No, that's too big. What's a little smaller than Crypto here? Is Microsoft Theater still a thing across from Crypto? Yes. I want to play Microsoft. Oh, yeah. I think JoJo played there.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You can play there for sure. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Done and done. You know Theo Vaughn plays arenas? Like for 18,000 people as his tour? That kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 00:38:05 He's very, very popular. 18,000 people? And he does stand up? I think so. Oh, yeah. He's just on stage by himself telling jokes for 18,000 people? That's crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I want to do that. I want to be – could you imagine my little show with my four dancers for 18,000 people at Madison Square Garden just music videos playing behind me. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Okay. I want to go on Theo Vaughn then. If he gets that many people.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Because I saw Grace. All the girlies are going on there now. So I want to go too. Everyone's on Theo Vaughn. Yeah. He kind of. He has very broad appeal, I found out. I've looked into him a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:38:41 So I think everyone kind of likes him. Everyone. Tana loves him. Everyone's like, we love Theo Vaughn. I was like, well,ald i was like well damn but i yeah okay well i can be on it how do i get on it say it right here i think he's in nashville i'm coming to nashville i think i am coming to nashville i'm playing where um elvis presley played the ryman theater it's not even saying on here i just know it so um i'll be in n if I can come on. Oh, you're interested. Yeah. Why wouldn't he be?
Starting point is 00:39:07 You know what I mean? I would love to see that conversation between you two. I don't know. He's a character. Right. He's like a Bobby or like a Bobby Altoff kind of. Is he? Right?
Starting point is 00:39:17 It's not real. He goes in and out. Oh, okay. But he does play like, I'm a hillbilly. Like, that's his thing, right? Just a little bit. Like, sometimes he just goes into tangents of places that has nothing to do with the conversation.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Do you think he's intelligent? Like, do you think he's like... Yeah. You have to be intelligent to do what he does. That's what I'm saying. So his character is like, he's a little bit dumb, like a little ditzy, like, right? No? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:38 But I think in real life, he still talks that way. It's more the substance that comes out. There's no way. He's a flula. Because he's very like... Maybe on on road rules he had the accent and maybe he like dramatizes it more but i just made fun of his accent for no reason i'm so sorry i thought it was fake um okay i'm done i'll come on sure loved you on road rules i should watch it actually um is there was ct from the traders from road rules yes or no he was real world but then real world road rules the challenge I should watch it, actually. Is there, was CT from the Traitors from Road Rules? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Or, no, he was Real World, but then Real World, Road Rules, The Challenge. Oh, that's right. I remember. Yeah, that was the pipeline. Should we talk about Traitors or no? Does anyone care? People are like, I don't even know what they're talking about. Oh, with Traitors? I mean, I didn't even watch the new episode because I saw a spoiler and saw it didn't
Starting point is 00:40:20 go the way I wanted. And then I was like, I was too heartbroken to watch. I saw a clip, so I basically watched the episode. So you didn't want to watch it? I saw the spoiler and I was like, I need to watch it right away. I'm the opposite.
Starting point is 00:40:31 When things don't go my way, like on a reality show, I'm like, well, what's the point of me watching it? So you're not going to watch it anymore? If you were on Traitors and you got eliminated early, it would hurt me too much to watch it.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You wouldn't continue watching. If you were gone, no. Wow. Even with this, like, I guess spoiler alerts for the Traders, obviously. Yeah. But, like, I love Gabby Windy, but I just – I loved Bob so much. So it's hard for me to continue on. I feel that.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I have to continue on because both Gabby and Carolyn have responded to my DMs. Love. That's fierce. They're like, we'll come on the podcast. They're very booked and busy right now doing press, but they'll be in LA soon. And they were like, yeah, absolutely. They were both like really excited to get my DM. And I was like, really excited because I like, I love them now. Especially Carolyn, because like last time we talked, I kind of didn't know. And I was like, oh, she seems kind of like silly or goofy. And then you're like, no, I love her. So then I like followed her on Instagram and she like had this
Starting point is 00:41:20 whole sobriety journey story and it was like really inspiring. And so I sent her a DM and I was like, oh, I love this person even more now. So I was like, I have to keep watching because I really love them. I think the girls are going to like pull through. But yeah, Bob the Drag Queen getting eliminated. I will say, yes, I'm so heartbroken too. But you remember last time I was like,
Starting point is 00:41:37 Boston Rob, like what a dweeb. I hate him. I mean, kind of like good at playing the game, right? Or no, you think it's bad? He is good at playing the game he hasn't won survivor i think for a reason because he does like these big extravagant moves but then like i think this was so early that he'll get chopped obviously we see the next episode they already want to get rob out so right because he's it's like a big move but done so early that i think he'll get the job. There's still so much game left.
Starting point is 00:42:08 You got to be careful. You got to be strategic when you do something big. That's crazy for a trader to throw like another trader under the bus is wild. But actually like Harnessmore, honestly, I probably would like throw someone under the bus too. Like you're a trader. But what's crazy to me is how do they not throw each other under? Because like let's say like I was like you're a trader and like actually you're a trader
Starting point is 00:42:24 because I was up with you last night in the little room thing. You know what I mean? Like how do they not throw each other under? Cause like, let's say like, I was like, you're a traitor. And like, actually you're a traitor. Cause I was up with you last night in the little room. You know what I mean? Like, how do they not do that? You're trying to, you know, preserve yourself. So you're trying to basically say,
Starting point is 00:42:33 no, you're lying. Right. Because you both had yourself as traitors, but his outro was good. Bob, the drag queen. Like he just like,
Starting point is 00:42:38 till the very end, he just did a really good, like, um, what's the word? Like he did a little monologue. Yeah. At the end end i like it
Starting point is 00:42:45 yeah yeah i know that was like everyone's low blow that was everyone's final straw for all the drake when like no not zach affron don't say that about him like okay obviously like because if you missed it dylan affron goes well i grew up with an actor so i know and bob goes not a good one it's kind of good i. It's kind of good. I mean because it's so silly. I mean obviously it's like I do love Dylan. I sent him a DM too. Love Dylan Efron yeah. I like him more than Zac Efron at this point. Honestly me too. He has a really good personality.
Starting point is 00:43:14 He has such a good personality. He's funny. He's like not taking anything personally still you know is with the gays. He's supporting Bob online. He posted a really cute behind the scenes with them and like they were like doing cute stuff and I love to'd love to see that i was like they should show more fun i know it's like not part of the trader like lore but it'd be fun to see like them being fun and can't be with i need dylan affron here because he posted an instagram on the beach where he was like
Starting point is 00:43:36 laying down in the water but then his he it was like up and i'm like dylan affron why did you post that i have a question about that does Does he date, has he dated girls? Do we know? As far as everyone knows, he's straight. But that photo was giving like very much like, it was, why was your up like that in the water? I have a feeling your Instagram is going to get hacked again. I know. Did you comment?
Starting point is 00:43:56 There might be a lot of comments. No, not yet. The hacker has not been in there as far as I know. How do people, why would people assume he's straight? That's a good question. I don't know. It's crazy people just assume like you're straight. Maybe he just gives such like heteronormative energy as I know. How do people, why would people assume he's straight? That's a good question. I don't know. Like, it's crazy people just assume, like,
Starting point is 00:44:06 you're straight, you know? Maybe he just gives such, like, heteronormative energy, I guess, but you can't really assume these days, that's true. Yeah. Because that photo was wild.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Like, no contact. I don't know many straight men that put their a** up for a photo, but. And he was wearing, like, board shorts and everything, too, so nothing was really giving, you know, gay, really,
Starting point is 00:44:22 but the booty tooch, as Tyra would say, is like, wait, what? The booty what? The booty tooch. Who says that? Tyra. the booty tooch as tyra would say is like wait what the booty what the booty tooch who says that tyra the booty tooch yeah i love it is that like a little prop yeah when you stick your when you're posing and you stick your butt out the booty tooch we need tyra back in 2025 i need her show back i need america's top model back i need all of it back and i want it to be controversial and problematic just like it was in 2002 like i kind of miss it i kind of miss her i don't know why we just like let her go i know i i mean i get me looking back at like some of the clips especially like the tyra show like when she was cosplaying as poor and stuff
Starting point is 00:44:55 some of this i was like wait huh like when she was unhoused on the streets for no reason like wait what it's like it was like a little funny it is a little camp yeah i mean it's like kind of funny yeah and honestly if like all these problematic guys can make comebacks and you know do their thing like let's have some of the women to get their their chances to one of those people who like gets away with it's like when he's saying like crazy things i think like certain people can like get away with being a little um what's opposite of woke she's a little like the opposite i kind of like it and i love being woke i love the woke because i think it's good for our community and society
Starting point is 00:45:29 and human beings in general but i do love a little bit of um and i think tyra can there's some things that made me like you know keep it in the drafts like you know when she had that one photo shoot with the models were race bending that was crazy they had like the white girl like african not even like south african like proper african i'm like i wonder what they were going for like i'm trying to see like the other side like where they were trying to feel what i feel like the intentions were probably good like you know the experience this kind of culture but then it's like oh that's not you know um i would have fallen for that i'd be like i loved it back then i would have fallen for that. I would have been like, I loved it back then. I would have been like, yeah. And I do understand because contextually that time, like, there was just no media from the POV of these different, like, ethnicities and cultures.
Starting point is 00:46:13 True. So from, like, the mainstream, like, white lens. Obviously, Tyra's not white. But I think the crew behind the show was very white, obviously. So the white lens is probably like, this is good. We're showing different cultures. But it's like. Yes. And they did. I think they were, like, and they did i think they were like holding babies yes you're right that was so cool i was like wow that's a cool idea you know you could just see like the beautifulness at the time i remember thinking that i'm like this is such an amazing concept
Starting point is 00:46:36 like i was like 12 or whatever but seeing the cultures so i think the intention was good yeah it just hasn't aged well because you know i think we've just had our eyes open to actual people who are living in these places, you know, and they're educating us. But at the time, we were just ignorant because we didn't have access to these people. Pre-social media. People forget. Like, pre-social media, you just didn't know because you didn't have access to people's thoughts who actually lived in those places.
Starting point is 00:47:06 That's so true. Yeah. Like no one had voices for that. Yes. But now they did a model. It could be so cool because there could be like a range of models, you know, from obviously like the plus size models, which they had towards the end. But, you know, just different genders and, you know, ability.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah. You know, it's like it would be cool to see the different models. Yeah. you know all it's like it's pretty cool to see the different models yeah and even like different like um skin conditions too like winnie harlow has like vitiligo and i remember at the time it was such a big groundbreaking thing like tyra made it such a big thing like oh it makes you beautiful blah blah but now it's like so many models like with different skin conditions and stuff there's so many like high fashion models that have vitiligo and winnie harlow was so successful yeah so it would be cool to have all that kind of different representation.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Or like Savage Fenty. Rihanna gets models who are disabled and stuff too. There's so many categories and stuff. And it's cool. Like Gerber. I think Gerber maybe had the first Down Syndrome baby on their bottle. And I thought that was so cool. Because it really does show that anyone can model and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Because that's what people want to see. They want to see people that look like us on things. Yeah. Which is like super cool. We love to see a Tyra come back. I know I was always like, ugh, I hate Tyra, but now I love her again. I'll come back on. Watch season five, episode one.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I'm on the Tyra show where I reveal my real hair. And it's me with like platinum blonde hair. And I was like, this is my natural hair. Tyra too. She's like, this is my natural hair. So it's like straightened and stuff like that. But we love to see it. She was a queen. She's like, this is my natural hair. So it's, like, straightened and stuff like that. But we love to see it. She was a queen.
Starting point is 00:48:27 She was a queen. So was Wendy Williams. She made a comeback and said she's, like, I'm fine, y'all. I know. It makes me sad because she talked about her experience with, like, her conservatorship and talked about how she is in these, like, prison-like conditions in the facility she's in. Wait, she's in a facility? How did she come out for this?
Starting point is 00:48:46 That's a good question. I didn't know. I thought it was a conservatorship like Britney where she's in her house and someone's just watching her. She was on a phone call, wasn't it? With TMZ, at least. She did the interview with Charlamagne, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:00 It was a radio one. She says that she spent three years living in what she calls a luxury prison in this New York facility. She didn't say which facility. But she says she was in the place where people were in their 90s and 80s. And even when people are in their 60s like me, there's something wrong with these people here on this floor. She said, I'm definitely isolated. To talk to those people
Starting point is 00:49:25 that live here that is not my cup of tea oh my god so i don't understand like she's in her sound mind and she has to stay in this place well that's i think the issue too is like obviously there was that like wendy documentary on lifetime a couple months ago that kind of showed like the i don't know what the cognitive i guess decay of you know of wendy so some people are saying with like if she has dementia there's people um that have experience with uh having like relatives or something with dementia where one minute they can be like there you know and like very on it and very aware but then that's not the full reality you know like they do have these slip-ups and they're not okay so it's hard to tell for sure you know um she seemed pretty
Starting point is 00:50:12 coherent she's talking about pd like she seemed to be like yeah but a lot of people like with experience with dementia say that that's like normal with these like um cognitive diseases and she said she had no money but it's like where all her money go she's like she has no access to any money and it's like why wouldn't they have like a private caretaker for her why is she staying in like a facility yeah it's also weird like it just it makes me have more questions obviously like conservatorships i saw with britney like they can be so like restrictive and just taking away all your independence and stuff fully um so i think there's a larger like issue with conservatorships maybe because they're so hard to get out of yeah
Starting point is 00:50:54 so i don't know how it works with like how the court assigns a conservatorship you know um yeah it's she seemed yeah she seemed aware I guess like you said, people know. But at the same time, it's like it seems like a milder case of dementia. She can like remember some things and like live her life. I guess. Yeah. I would. I feel like.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I don't know. They would need to be some kind of like diagnostic or something, you know, like if a doctor was. Because I think that was the argument, too. Like they couldn't get a doctor. Her niece said that they couldn't get like a doctor to you know give the information or whatever that was something that they claimed as well that's so weird you can find a doctor called dr drew he'll be there in a minute you know yeah so um because her her niece said my aunt hasn't had from what i understand a medical evaluation to see if her rights can be restored um and said that
Starting point is 00:51:46 the um conservator has made it difficult every which way for my aunt to be able to live any sort of healthy independent life I think it was Brittany who said she signed something because she wanted to see her kids it basically was like if you don't sign this you won't see your kids they hold something against you or yeah maybe that was something like with Wendy or if you're like under duress at the time and you sign it. Yeah. Of course. You just think like that's your option. I think I don't know if it's like similar or not but Hayden Panettiere she like signed over like she thought she was signing over like temporary custody to her husband for her daughter and then it ended up being like permanent. Like they never gave the daughter back
Starting point is 00:52:18 and he moved to like Russia or wherever he was from with her and like she never got her daughter back. Like that's like and she did at the time when she was like obviously like unwell and she hadn't gotten sober yet so she like did it to like protect her daughter i think she would get her back and then like it was gone forever yeah which i think that should be illegal too like signing something like you said in times of like duress where you're just like so like not yourself and out of your mind like you shouldn't be able to like make those decisions you should get like a re-evaluation in like a year yeah they do make it insanely difficult for like people who suffer from like mental illness and stuff too i think there is i mean you kind of know this more than anyone like
Starting point is 00:52:50 there is still that like stigma i think that follows people who have suffered from like some kind of mental illness and it's like so impossible to shake that fully you know what i mean and like prove that you are like because i guess because it's not a physical thing that you know is cured or something like you always have i mean that's what i'm saying it'd be so easy for us to be like well she's crazy we look at all this stuff she's done online you know what i mean the judge easily would be like you're right that's yep i'm done you know so i think that's that's a bad issue out there i was having to hear back but it was kind of sad people want her back i know i think everyone is really really rooting for a wendy comeback i like
Starting point is 00:53:25 the circumstances though are just so terrible like it's she has some family obviously like she went to her son's graduation yeah so she obviously still is close with some family so it is and there's just so much conflicting information that's the hard part you know like yeah there's like obviously her guardian is saying one thing. Wendy is in her face and her niece and family are saying something else. So it's like, it's so hard. Yeah. To know like what's actually happening.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Ah, well, Wendy, come on this podcast if you want. I love you so much. She's my fave. Her wigs are so good. I have some getting made to look like Wendy. I'm going to become Wendy Williams over time. Look at it in like four years. I'm going to be tiny. I'm going to have Wendy Williams over time. Look at it. In like four years, I'm going to be tiny.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I'm going to have the bigger boobs. Teeny ways. Teeny ways. God, she really was like teeny tiny. I also love that she wore sneakers. I know she had like a foot condition, but towards the end, she started wearing sneakers with her dresses, and I love that because I hate wearing heels.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I'm going to start doing that too. Yeah. She was everything. I love her. Wendy. TikTok is back. Oh, we already talked about yeah oh someone was someone was excited about tiktok being banned though um um brianna chicken fry of course she would be i think the
Starting point is 00:54:35 people who are like what did she say i didn't see this well uh she did the photo shoot with sports illustrated oh yeah she did look here um, she looked really good. And she kind of opened up about the fallout with Grace again. And she talked about how she was really upset over the fallout with Grace because it's taking away from the importance
Starting point is 00:54:58 of what she was doing trying to help people heal and trying to help people have someone in the corner while they're going through such negative times. What does that even mean? Like, what? What does that mean? What took it away? She took it away or people's conversations about it?
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah, the drama with Grace took away because she, I think, I guess really what she's saying, she was on a high, you know, after the Zach Bryan breakup. You know, everyone was like rooting for her. She stuck it to the man. She didn't take his money so she could, you know, speak out about her experience with Zach. She was like strong, independent. And then everything kind of shifted because of the grace drama you guys did it you
Starting point is 00:55:29 and dave couldn't stop talking about her they talked about her so much like that was crazy because grace really like said nothing she did like what instagram story being like yeah plan brie's not coming back i'm shocked then they did 20 000 podcasts just completely annihilating her and her character i would be like that, that's, oh, that's the most frustrating. I think that's what is with Brianna. Like, I do like her. I think she's so pretty. I like her TikToks. I get, like, her whole vibe. Like, I know why she's popular. But, like, the, like, self, like, the lack of self-awareness is crazy to think, like, I was on this high and then everyone had to make it about Grace. It's like, you made it about that. Like, you turned,
Starting point is 00:56:02 you compared her to Zach Bryan. Like, that was crazy. That was so – and that's what's – I guess they're friends now. They did a video where they were, like, together on, like, looking over a dock, like, yesterday or something like that. So I guess they're back being friends. That's wild. You didn't see that? No. Yeah, she, like, said, oh, Grace sent this video to me, like, what we're going to send to her future kids.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It was, like, them sitting, like, on a dock, like, recently. It was, like, new. Yeah. So I guess they're, like – Props to you, Mama. mama because grace i don't know if i could like literally the dms i i just can't get over i mentioned it every time we talked about brie but it's like the dm she was sending to like these fans calling her a nasty evil woman was like that was crazy how could you that's why i don't know if i could bounce back that fast like you
Starting point is 00:56:41 like find out i'm talking about you in a dm to like a random fan call me nasty evil if you only knew how nasty and evil oscar was wild i could never i would never that's so weird because i'm like what like you're such a weirdo for doing that weirdly to fans like i think that's like the craziest part i think that's why like my ptsd from the colleen situation is like her sending like my news like random like people it's like okay i guess if you're sending them to like your friends I guess that's funny I guess I don't know but like random fans you're just like ha ha ha look at Trisha was like her spread legs like that's so weird and it's like the same thing it's like talking about someone to fans is like you're such a weirdo like I could never I guess they probably do it to like have people stop
Starting point is 00:57:21 talking about it maybe they just want to be like look we're friends again i guess for both it does help to kind of wrap it up because obviously grace is doing like a new podcast she has a fresh start i don't know if she necessarily wants that like following her especially she's trying to do more like comedy and do yeah like i think maybe be taking more serious as like a stand-up comedian sure yeah so maybe she just doesn't want it following her brianna i think just wants everyone off her back. Oh, sure. She made up with Ken Urich on the Tart trip. She's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Look, I'm friends with everyone again. Because she probably felt the heat, but like rightfully so because I think it's, again, the lack of self-awareness. You can't just like blame. And I'm like – I was like this too, right? I was just like, gosh, everyone's the problem except for me. And it's like I think when it's like the common denominator that you're the drama in all this is like there's probably like something that you're
Starting point is 00:58:06 doing that's like wrong you know what I mean like the Ken York thing where she was like brought up on stage and said okay I don't want to talk about this and then Brianna's like we're talking about this on stage like that's crazy so to be like oh I'm not in the wrong so maybe she just took a bunch of voices to be like you know what maybe I need to slow my roll and like apologize to some of these people that I hurt you know yeah and And she talked about how like on TikTok she was getting a lot of the heat for her follow-up with Grace. And how that drowned out so much of the positive feedback she was getting after the breakup. So she said – when she got asked about the ban, she said, how I'm feeling right now is I'm like pop a bottle of champagne. Let's get rid of this horrible, hateful app.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Which is just like, mama, come on. Come on. You can get rid of the horrible, hateful which is just like mama come on come on you can get rid of the horrible hateful app but your horrible hateful actions will follow you everywhere like it doesn't we'll go to instagram to tell you what you're doing is wrong you know what i mean like i do like her i really like how to do i get the appeal but it's like actually the most frustrating person and maybe this was me 10 years ago where people like this is so frustrating like she's not seeing it so maybe i like get it in that capacity, but it is so hard. You could shake someone so much and they're still like, I don't know what the problem is. I don't know. Someone just ruined my high. You ruined your high, which was also me, your own worst enemy. You stand
Starting point is 00:59:16 in your way. You self-sabotage. I don't know. Yeah, the BFFs podcast is back without Dave and it's just – it is a little more calm or it's a little nicer with that who did they have on they had they had Josh Peck on they had Josh Peck on oh okay he was talking about me again saying that I started his vlogging career I was like love that I love that's like the M.O. everywhere I was like that's what does M.O. stand for that's a good question I was thinking it says like ammo
Starting point is 00:59:38 I thought it was like motivation but M.O. like ammunition no like that's your M.O. that's my M.O. like people say that. Modest uprondie. What does it mean? The way of operation. The way you operate in life.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Oh, so my ammo. Okay, right. Method of operation. I might be using it wrong. Yeah. But Josh Peck credited me as giving him a start in YouTube. And I love that narrative. That's so funny and so random.
Starting point is 01:00:03 But I'm glad I could help you out. I guess it's better to say you were the reason than David Dobrik. That's so funny and so random but I'm glad I could help you out. I guess it's better to say you were the reason than David Dobrik. That's true. Yeah. He's like I did my first video of Trisha eating hot wings and it got 4 million views and he was selling it to Brianna and Josh and I'm like wow that's so cool.
Starting point is 01:00:18 It was nice. I always like to hear that. I always hear when people are talking about me. I always see little clips and that's why if TikTok was gone I wouldn't know who's talking about me. That'd be the true – again, that'd probably be better. It's like, okay, you get to spend more time with your family. You don't know who's talking about you. Like it's probably a better peace of mind.
Starting point is 01:00:33 But I just like to know what's in the know. You know what I mean? I like to be involved. Yeah, you are a journalist. Yeah. Yeah, I thought about that with interviews too. I'm like every time I have a guest on, I literally go to TikTok to see like what's the highlights, what's been brought up about them. And now you have to sit through a whole podcast and like listen to like all the points.
Starting point is 01:00:50 It's like would have been so hard. So thank God. No, Google Giggles. That was like – What is Google Giggles? What is that? People were listing like their short form apps that like are out there. And Google Giggles I guess is one of them.
Starting point is 01:01:03 What is that? I have no idea you just like ask it something or what i think you upload little short form like vertical videos it's like a little platform yeah did you sign up for lemonade that also got banned no i didn't sign up for any of them red note none of them i'm kind of like i barely have his head talk really so that's true you would have been like i don't. The only reason I care was just from the worker standpoint. Not even just the influencers. Because the counterpoint to the ban, people were dunking on the influencers crying and stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I'm like, well, it's their livelihood. But not even beyond that. Because I guess they could eventually go to another platform. But I'm like, the people whose jobs is literally like at every publishing company, every marketing company, there is the TikTok person. Like that is so many jobs. Like that in and of itself. Like even for me, I'm like, well, I would just have to make videos for Instagram and Facebook. But I'm like I like posting them to TikTok.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Like I make them for the TikTok audience because it's more fun there, you know. Of course. Yeah. Who scrolled Reels? I try Reels. I'm like, this is not it. Yeah. And it's so old.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Everything is months old on Reels. I'm like – I will say Reels do get a lot of views. My Reels get like 700, 800,000. So they get views. So someone's watching it. Don't know who, but I guess it does get some views. But I thought about that with you.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Well, I had asked you a while ago. I was like, oh, wait. So if TikTok goes away, are you having a job? And then you're like, no, I'll do do like reels yeah because i do them for like cross-platform my videos but like i i generally make them with like tiktok in mind like foremost but there are people at different publishing companies who like just do tiktok like people magazine has someone that just does people magazine tiktok like not instagram or anything so yeah that's like everywhere so i felt so bad for like those people and like the small businesses who get most of their revenue from like tiktok
Starting point is 01:02:50 shops yeah like that yeah it is crazy but they said like 1.3 million people make their living off tiktok i fully believe it yeah and there's so many influencers like ones that have like maybe you know 500 000 followers or whatever they said they were making like 15 to 20 000 a month on tiktok i was like how are you doing this i've never made that much ever on tiktok that is wild yeah because like the the creator program for tiktok it's not like you get a ton of money i get nothing i get like i mean a couple thousands like good but like it's not like you know i i've seen one person was a teacher and she was showing how much she makes every month on tiktok and it was between three to five thousand dollars a month but she said without
Starting point is 01:03:25 that like i couldn't be even the teacher like she said so many teachers that's how they supplement it's amazing that many people make a living off tick tock it's because that's cool that's amazing how do people find people like like random people i guess that is the good thing about tick tock is the discoverability on yeah it's so much better yeah the only place that you can actually get your message out. Because I think that's why everyone loved it is because like – I mean it's a double-edged sword. But almost anyone could be an influencer. Like so many people could have their moment, you know, and then have a career after that if they like keep it up, you know. So many people. Anything like Risa T.
Starting point is 01:03:59 So she has like two Lifetime movies and a TV series. The Mormon Wives. Jules LeBron. Like all those, you know, they all like got so big. Terry Jo. Terry Jo. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Just so mega from TikTok and mega, M-E-G-A. I was like, that sounds weird when I say it. But even me, like we were talking, or like I was talking to Tana too, it's just like a whole like new wave of like audience that just like makes you like relevant again. And like, it's not my main thing over there, but like I love TikTok for that reason. Because like millions of people are watching your TikTok where like you don't get that on any other platform. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Even Spencer Pratt, obviously after the fires, him and Heidi had like a huge week on TikTok. He revealed how much he made. And he said the week he started posting after the fires, he made 4,000 for just one week. It's pretty good. And then on TikTok Live, he made another 20,000. In one week it's pretty good and then on tiktok live he made another twenty thousand in one week yeah that's what i was telling moses i was like that is so wild so cool yeah and obviously that spawned the heidi's album
Starting point is 01:04:56 and song going number one everybody was posting it and it is that is so cool that's like the cool part of social media is everyone just like rallying behind you yeah um because they're very honest they're very honest. They're very honest about like, you know, their money and how their money was in their house and stuff like that. Because people do assume – Spencer said something so funny and it was like so relatable where he's like, you know, my whole life everyone's like they're broke, their washed up has been.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yes. And then as the fire happened, they're like they're rich celebrities. They don't need it. That is true. And that is so the story of like probably every influencer celebrity's life is people thinking like they're broke and then it's like the minute something happens like they're rich they're fine uh-huh it's like make up your mind yeah and i do feel for obviously everyone but um spencer and heidi too like they are just sweet people and like they've had a bad rap literally their entire careers you know like 80 of their careers they've had a bad rap so
Starting point is 01:05:43 it is nice again like seeing the the good stories that come out of such devastation you know like 80% of their careers they've had a bad rap so it is nice again like seeing the good stories that come out of such devastation you know like the silver lining seeing them you know get their flowers people not unironically loving Heidi's music too because it's always been good I said that last year when she was on the podcast like this is the you are the tea like that's
Starting point is 01:06:00 so good her music like it really was like ahead of its time yes and they're just such like nice people so it's nice to see them get some recognition and they're everywhere they're good morning america yeah press everywhere they should be on the next white lotus they'd be like the perfect couple on there especially like reality stars like on vacation at the white lotus or something because they're perfect and they would act so perfect like spencer is like such a good villain and like they would be so good on there and it's so funny he still has that like villain air to him or branding to him but he is so nice like he's like a troll you know and so his trolling is like funny and I was glued to it I was addicted to it I
Starting point is 01:06:34 I love him I'm trying to get on the podcast but honestly they're probably they're probably doing call her daddy or something you know what I mean they're probably too booked and busy but if you guys want to come on I love Heidiidi and like spencer seems sweet too so and great parents like it is they're just so sweet i don't know it's like yeah it's so funny like if you're millennial you know like the hills era no one ever ever ever thought that heidi and spencer would be the couple from the hills to make it yeah the the like reputation around them at that time was garbage all the old heidi interviews after she had her plastic surgery coming out where like these interviewers just like berate her and make her feel so small and
Starting point is 01:07:09 terrible so awful she was so sweet like people were asking the most like horrible evasive questions and she was just like handles it so well i don't know i like like it jane the virgin did a heidi and spencer reference we were watching them and they were like something and i was like wow they were really like again this is like an era of time i don't remember because it was like probably like 2009 to 2013 or something so like I don't remember I remember they were like big but I didn't watch the hills or anything so watching like Jane the Virgin and then mentioning them like wow they were really like that couple that like got mentioned everywhere yeah the hills was like an insanely popular show really was like the blueprint for that vibe like I mean Laguna Beach um with Lauren Conrad obviously that was like the blueprint for that vibe. Like, I mean, Laguna Beach with Lauren Conrad, obviously, that was, like, the blueprint for, like, the OC.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And then that kind of became the cultural phenomenon with the OC. And then I feel like the Hills is kind of why Gossip Girl became so popular because it was, like, the heightened New York version of the Hills. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I feel like for like if you were in high school around that time of like the hills and Laguna Beach, like it's a fundamental, again, fundamental like personality building block. Like in your head. Yeah. Yeah. I was like kind of unaware of it happening at the time, but it sounds like a good show.
Starting point is 01:08:16 It was it at the time. I remember finding out it was like scripted though and then like everything kind of came crashing down. I was like, oh my God. I couldn't believe it. Which is like so funny. Like that and back to Milli Vanilli, the movie I watched movie i watched like it's so funny how they got canceled too for like lip-syncing their music and it's like i mean i guess it wasn't really their voice because
Starting point is 01:08:32 everyone kind of lip-syncs but it is crazy how it's like such a different time we're not like everyone lip-syncs everywhere and it's like not a big deal no but and same thing with the scripted like everything is scripted sun selling sunset like everything's scripted but like the hills it was like oh my god that's like crazy yeah the shift of like finding out things were not 100 real yeah i was like what how could that be because even like ashley simpson like when she did the the lip sync moment on um snl like that was like almost like career ruining moment but now it's like very much like known that people sing with backing tracks and stuff you know and she like actually sang her song she just had like what was it vocal
Starting point is 01:09:09 nodges what was this on her yeah she had like swollen lymph nodes yeah something with her acid reflux made her throat like it was like everything was happening it was like acid reflux swollen lymph nodes it was a lot and it's like yeah it was such a big deal everyone's like oh like how could she like she got canceled for everything in boot and i was just like now everyone's doing it yes and it kind of reminded me because um nikki dimartino did like her tiktok series where she talked about how like the beauty uh lifestyle girly videos from back in the day on youtube were all like fake and scripted and it was so funny seeing the comments and having like her fans be like gagged by it they're like i thought it was yeah they're like wait this wasn't real like your get ready with me's or and like your morning routines weren't real and i was
Starting point is 01:09:54 like well i mean how do they not because they have to be like her age which they're not they're not old they're probably like 28 29 they're probably younger because i because i i was just thinking my because my the equivalent would be like me watching The Hills and then not knowing it's fake, I guess. And because I was in eighth grade watching Laguna Beach and they were like three or four years older than me. So maybe there's like a four-year delay or something. And you thought – right. So like people a little younger that watch it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Just thinking it was real. Especially YouTube, I guess. The bridge between like reality and, you know, fakeness. I guess it's, like, really thin. That's true. Especially back then. But those videos just seem – I mean, weren't they all, like, in their 20s pretending to go to high school?
Starting point is 01:10:33 Yeah. Like, I thought that was, like, the giveaway. Yeah. How did they not know that? That's crazy. Or wearing, like, crop tops to school. I'm like, okay, no one can, like, wear those to school. That's, like, crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I guess that's good it came out. There is, like, a video that has, like – it probably has, like, has like 10 million views and it's like Trisha Paytas's morning routine versus like all the other girls on YouTube morning routine. Have you ever seen it? No. And I thought I like ate so hard with it and it's actually and I wasn't even like trying to be funny or parody or anything but it is crazy how polished and bright and how like aesthetic their routines were. I was like that's crazy and I was just trying to like make something similar and i was just like oh it was the craziest thing and i never watched routine videos like that so i just didn't realize these girls were like chopping strawberries in the shape of like stars and like putting them in smoothies and oh my god this is even like six cinnabons or something like it was like so the video is so did it come up yes oh we need to react to this. It's only three minutes. So it's quick. It's short. Oh my God. This is amazing. How many views?
Starting point is 01:11:29 15 million. I get a water pin at about 8 a.m. by the sun shining through on my face, which is really annoying at the time, but it's really good because it gets me up. I wake up with greasy skin and crazy hair. I don't go on social media because I feel like it's not good for me in the mornings. And I prop myself up to go through all my social media. Twitter, YouTube, Patreon. You know the drill.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Follow me at Trisha Paytas at any of those. Walk outside and pick a fresh lemon from our lemon tree. Water and to take my daily vitamins. And my 10 ounce coffee. This always gets me started in the morning. And it's not a morning routine unless I meditate. So I love doing guided meditations on Headspace. We really love the reoccurring meditation candle.
Starting point is 01:12:16 How could we forget the candle? I go into the bathroom, do my business because I feel like everybody does this first thing in the morning. And I'm going to take the time to make myself a delicious and nutritious breakfast. It's sugar cereal, maybe not the best, but it does give me a sense of right. Simply read, that's my experience.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I also love adding almond milk and ice. Vegan lifestyle. And just eat my little meal. And while I'm having breakfast, I'll just use this time to check the mail. Oh my god. Check on my schedule. This bowl. YouTube and eating.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Give yourself a little bit of down time to be creative. So in the morning, I have actually been using my bullet journal. I use my colored pencils and I just plan out my day. Then I will have some toast. Then I move on over to my whiteboard. I think this is not real.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Listen, I hate doing it. I just finish up eating. I was really having fun, really happy, really in a good mood. Then I just clean up just a little bit. But then it is time for me to go to Pilates.
Starting point is 01:13:19 So I grab a banana and get changed. It is my favorite thing to do in the world. I love it Um, and then I eat some more Just a fun oh my god, so and then you start looking like this The clarisonic Just a fun hobby. Oh my god. So, and then you start looking like this. Then I like the shower. The Clarisonic. Shower time. I was sponsored.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Anything that smells like coconut is my favorite thing. I use the Caviar Moisture Shampoo and Conditioner. I got the liters off of Amazon. Nibia Men. I'm really soft. Then I like to Q-tip my ears after a shower. I'm going to brush my hair. That's what everyone does
Starting point is 01:14:05 Oh my god I want to sit there and soak up the sun And just take a little bit of time to be really calm And relaxed and I actually like to think Things that I'm This is crazy actually It brought me A little bit of gratitude will only lead to having a much more
Starting point is 01:14:22 Happy and positive day. The editing is top notch. Watch that channel, Pop. Oh, my God. Let me see. That was good editing. It's called Skinny. Shout out to Skinny.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Love Skinny. That is so – it's just so funny because, like, no shade, obviously, those girls. But there's just no way they do that every morning. Like, draw on a whiteboard. I mean, maybe people do. Go to Plot. I don't know. Maybe it's something everyone does they do that every morning. Like, draw on a whiteboard. I mean, maybe people do go to plots. I don't know. Maybe it's something everyone does. You should do a morning routine for yours.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Please do one. Do one like that. Like, the aesthetic, girls. My morning routine is not aesthetic at all. Yours is you do go to the gym. You clock in for work at Studio City. Like, you would be so – that would be such a good one for you. It's not very aesthetic, though.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Like, I usually – when I go into work, like I wake up like at 4.30 and then I have like 10 minutes to get ready and then leave. See, that's realistic. Do a realistic one then. Do a realistic one where you have 10 minutes. What are you making? Protein shakes in the morning. You love protein, don't you? You love protein.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I love protein. Like energy drink. Energy drink. Thank you. Yes. You should totally do a morning routine just with your energy drinks that is so funny but that's like crazy like the way they like film those and stuff i'm like that looks like a full production like great lights the bowl everything is so aesthetic i'm like no one wakes up like that waking up doing my bullet journal is nuts
Starting point is 01:15:37 and i use my color pencils to color i mean it's very beautiful but again back to the nikki demar it's like no one's doing that in the morning, especially these like teenage girls. It's crazy. I know. It's like, I get so shocking that people believed it.
Starting point is 01:15:50 I don't know. I totally missed out on this wave of YouTube. I guess you were more my wave, the realness. I was doing it. You're watching my morning routines.
Starting point is 01:15:58 No, if you go to my channel, like my most popular ones are like my nighttime routines. They have like 10 million views. And it's so funny. I thought I was crushing it. Like it never was to me. Like, let me show you the real side of this. Like, I'm like, and it's so funny. I thought I was crushing it. Like it never was to me. Like let me show you
Starting point is 01:16:05 the real side of this. Like I'm like, that is my, but can I tell you, I even added stuff in there like making coffee in the morning. Never did that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:16:13 So I added stuff that I thought would make it aesthetic and cute and meanwhile they're like, so, I don't know. Nighttime routine, I remember adding so much.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Like, oh, I take a bubble bath. I do this. You know what I mean? I realized like nighttime routine is like literally a makeup wipe and then like sitting on the couch. You know what I mean? So, it's just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like One thing that did gag me is that they had separate bedrooms, like filming bedrooms. I guess that was kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Right. Like her and Gabby had literally their own bedrooms that they actually lived in. And then they would shoot in like a separate – almost like a studio, I guess. Yeah. It was like their set house or whatever they said. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of gaggy. It makes sense, but it is kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:01 You just think like that's how they like live their life. It also seems hard to like do two bedrooms, like, you know, decorate two bedrooms. Yeah. And I guess they were like a month ahead. So like they would be doing Valentine's Day in January, you know, like having that video. So really like a full blown production,
Starting point is 01:17:16 like a show, because that's how shows would do it, you know? So that is pretty wild. Also what got me too was that she wanted to hire Alicia Marie to take photos of LA so she would have photos to post on her Instagram.
Starting point is 01:17:28 That is crazy. That is so wild. So what does that mean that like Alicia Marie would take these photos and she could use them? Of like palm trees. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:35 So she could still make it look like she lived in LA because she like was on the East Coast. So weird. So odd. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:17:43 why does palm trees like- Anything that felt LA, la basically why did she like when she came out here just take a bunch of photos honestly and like bank them yeah maybe that kind of was probably be more efficient i would think coming back and forth yeah i didn't miss that era like i didn't watch like the alicia's and the nicki and gabby's because i think i was like older i just knew those were like popular videos i don't know who i must have just seen people doing them but i don't't know. I just never watched them. So I didn't know what people were doing.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I think there was that whole motif. Like it was kind of – because the girls that were in that compilation I'd never seen before. But I feel like that's what everyone, all those lifestyle girls were doing. So who was I watching at the time? I really don't remember. Like the lifestyle girls, I think I would watch like the awesomeness TV group, like Claudia Salewski. Nothing hits like playoff hockey. The road to the cup starts on FanDuel. I would watch like the awesomeness TV group like Claudia Salewski. Get more from the game with live overtime markets. Download FanDuel today and get more playoff action with North America's number one sportsbook. Please play responsibly. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario.
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Starting point is 01:19:19 Plus enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. Who else was... Oh, Lauren Elizabeth. Jenna X Pen and Rebecca Black were in that group, but I don't think they did the lifestyle vibe. Yeah, not the full... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Arden Rose. There was a little group of them that I would watch, but I wasn't too into... I would watch Alicia, for sure too into like I would watch Alicia for sure really yeah I loved her vlogs
Starting point is 01:19:48 I watched Matt Barbie I did watch her I do remember her do you remember her Bethany Moda I loved Bethany I did love her I thought everything she bought
Starting point is 01:19:55 I would like buy a candle she had at lotion like I did think she was kind of a good girl yeah I guess she is even I guess that first wave kind of right it was like
Starting point is 01:20:01 she was huge Bethany Moda like Ingrid Nilsson I kind of think of them in the same I bethany moda um like ingrid nilsson i kind of think of them in the same i mean juicy star and blair were like the biggest like the original anyways yes love blaine l oh my god i remember at vidcon i um i was leaving vidcon once and i like not hit i like maybe tapped um her l's husband or are they married alex goot yeah yes i tapped his car leaving vidcon and i remember being so scared i was like oh my god that's alex goot's car and i
Starting point is 01:20:30 sped off but there was no damage no there was no damage i checked first and there was nothing but i was still so embarrassed that i left a little bump yeah we get sometimes um like uh delivery like drivers will like bump our cars a little bit and most like where'd this white scratch come from like i don't know i guess something probably just bumped it and didn't tell us, which I guess happens. I guess, are you supposed to leave a note with a scratch? I guess. I don't know. I remember looking first.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Because also, it was in front of the hotel at VidCon. So literally, there was valet. There was a million people out. So I looked first. And there was nothing. But I was so embarrassed. How did you know it was his car? Because it was his driver or whatever.
Starting point is 01:21:03 So the front, there was like a paper at the front that says his name. And it said Alex Gutt. What? Why did they have that? I get to pick him up, I guess. Oh, oh, oh. It was like a driver. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny. They put the name right there for everyone to see. I know for everyone to stalk. Yeah. I think it was one of the early VidCons. So I don't think they have the security down fully. How many did you go to?
Starting point is 01:21:23 Maybe three. I did two i did one as pratt i did my last one was like david dobrik that was 2019 i did as press and then maybe like two with strawberry and joey i want to say oh wow so you went to quite a few yeah i think three in total did one happen this year yes but it was mostly i think it was mostly tiktokers oh we tar yummy was on the on the poster that's how i remember yeah remember that one of the billboards was tara jake and johnny together really yeah that makes sense they're like the only youtubers who like get views i feel anymore that doing like those basic videos yeah good way like you know like tara's baking cookies
Starting point is 01:22:02 five million videos i'm like work mama yeah and jake is like eating 7-eleven it's like a million i mean it's amazing but like i cookies. It's five million videos. I'm like, work, mama. Yeah, and Jake is like eating 7-Eleven. It's like a million. I mean, it's amazing, but I feel like no one else could do that right now on YouTube. Maybe like a, oh no, Safiya Nygaard,
Starting point is 01:22:11 her production is like intense. Oh yeah, she puts effort into the whole company. Not that there's not effort, but they literally just sit there and like one thing and do it. Like the big ones now,
Starting point is 01:22:19 there's just such a production. Like there's a crew behind. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of big YouTuber's videos. Because yeah, who else is, who else is like a casual, like it's a crew behind yeah yeah a lot of big youtubers videos because yeah who else is who else is like a casual like it's something i'm sure there's some that we just have never heard of but yeah a lot of gamers too right people want to see streamers or commentary channels like the penguins as well as me he's just like oh yeah no lights yeah i'm always amazed by
Starting point is 01:22:43 him what's penguins talking about i should always look him up before Hot Topics. Is he talking about anything we care about? That's a good question. Let's see. I know he was recently in the news because he bought an eSports team with Ludwig. What's eSports? It's like a sports team but for video games. Sounds like crazy.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Why would you buy that? That's not even real. It's just virtual. That's scary. I thought a guy was coming in and not even real. It's just virtual. That's like, you know, XQC. I thought a guy was coming in and I heard something. It's just penguins. XQC. I know we talk about him all the time.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I don't really know. Usually, like, the big streamers were on some kind of, like, eSports team. And that's how they ended up getting bigger or something. I don't know. What is he talking about? Chick-fil-A made a huge mistake 2 million views 2 million views 18 hours ago i need to watch that like what did they do why do you have 2 million views on that this car chase was so good 1.8 million views two days ago
Starting point is 01:23:34 adults go to war over pokemon cards 1.4 million views a day ago tiktok might get banned 1.5. Iconic weapons from movies and games. That's a little crazy. Stanley Cup thief police chase. 1.7 million views. I guess we got to like react to police chases or something. That's crazy. That's just like no one would watch our channel would tank.
Starting point is 01:23:56 They'd be like, what are we doing? Just reacting to the most random people doing random things. Thumbnails too. Like they're not even of him. You know what I mean? Like I spend literally at least an hour on the thumbnails here and he just literally
Starting point is 01:24:06 chooses whatever. It's just like a still from the video? Yes. I love that though. It's kind of funny. Like two pixels. It is very you coded.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I wish I could do that and get two million views. That's amazing. Jake too. It's like damn, they really do just. Oh, we just want to clarify. Tana did not go on the Tart trip.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Oh yeah. Yeah, which I thought she did and she like no, she like went, she had to evacuate to Vegas because of her fire. She did have to evacuate. Her house was in the fire zone. Yeah, she posted her story last week that she wasn't sure what she was going to do.
Starting point is 01:24:38 And then kind of went radio silent after that. And then responded on a TikTok that she didn't end up going, but she's going to talk about it on Canceled I guess so well she also talked about it on Not Loveline today and it's coming out first I don't know I know it is hard it is hard when you have like two podcasts normally we don't but we haven't seen each other in so long so it's like okay we'll just like talk about the podcast but it is hard when
Starting point is 01:25:00 it's like you haven't seen someone for so long to like not talk about it it feels weird to like just answer like relationship questions after like a traumatic like two weeks here in LA. So yeah, it was interesting because I was like, oh, so – but she does talk a lot. So go there if you want to see it. Yeah, well, anyways, it's so crazy how like –
Starting point is 01:25:19 I guess like leaving the country is like literally – it's almost as if like you're not in the world anymore. Do you know what I mean? Like it almost was like nothing existed to me. Oh, I see. literally, it's almost as if like you're not in the world anymore. Do you know what I mean? Like it almost was like nothing existed to me. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you felt, I felt so isolated, like in a bubble. I guess it's probably how the people from Bridgerton feel.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Like they probably feel like, you know, like not in the real world because they're like in 1800 England. You know what I mean? And like that's how we were. We were on the set for like three days. That's all we did. It was Christmas themed. So it was very like – I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:46 And you're just so isolated. So it feels like the world doesn't exist. Like nothing is happening in the world. Or you just feel so far removed. You're like, what did I miss? It just feels like everything was so long ago. The Tart trip. All this stuff is just like in a different world.
Starting point is 01:25:57 You know what I mean? It was so weird. It's like coming back into the real world. I'm like, what did I miss? Especially when you're so busy. Like you're doing – you're traveling busy like you're doing yeah you're traveling so you're not home and then you're also just booked and busy so then when you do get like downtime it's like i just want to like chill out a little bit you know definitely yeah i would like
Starting point is 01:26:14 facetime and then like jet lag so then you just like want to sleep and then i was like i don't know what's happening in the world but it didn't sound like i missed much because i was trying to catch up on hot topics i'm like there really wasn't too much going on yeah i was like what's happening just more justin baldoni and Blake Lively. Just stuff coming out all the time. All the time. And I'm just like – Are you over it?
Starting point is 01:26:31 I love it. I want more of it. Oh, I am over it, I think. Are you? Yeah. Because it's just more – It's more like he said, she said kind of stuff. And I'm like, at this point, like, if it's at court,
Starting point is 01:26:42 like, let's see what, like, witnesses have to say. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because it's like, you can say one thing and then he'll have like a different perspective over it like no this is what it was but then there's no like real concrete evidence like obviously i read i read through all of like justin's lawsuit and again people will say i'm biased towards women whatever i don't care but like he said that he signed the sexual harassment document because Blake Lively was going to walk away but I'm like okay there's no proof of
Starting point is 01:27:11 that like you're saying that so he did admit to signing that set that agreement of the sexual harassment so to me I'm like if you sign that what is an agreement to sexual harassment well I'm wording it terribly but basically it was that agreement he signed about the working conditions for blake to resume filming again so it was after blake complained about the sexual harassment and made like a list of what you can and cannot do like do not show me a video of a naked woman but that initial like complaint that she filed oh he signed off he admitted in his paperwork uh from his lawsuit to signing that initial agreement and then but said that like he signed it i guess under duress whatever because blake lively threatened to leave the project altogether if he didn't sign it but there's no like proof of that so that's why i'm like i kind of need witnesses to be like what actually happened
Starting point is 01:28:06 on this set you know what i mean because even if there's witnesses it's just gonna be people that are team blake and team justin you know like no no one will change anyone's mind ever like the people that's true like yeah we love justin love justin because i've seen it with even this like stuff comes out with blake and then people are like no team justin and justin has to fight back like no team blake like you know i just think like no matter what there could be witnesses that would be like i I saw this happen. But that's not how it was meant to be. That was taken out.
Starting point is 01:28:28 But she did this. So there's always that. Or Blake is powerful. So of course you're going to say that. But I'm like, I don't know. She also doesn't have much cachet right now. What cachet? She doesn't have much value to her.
Starting point is 01:28:44 If you have a Blake Lively seal of approval right now, like, I feel like that doesn't get you very far because she, I think people look at her so low after it ends with us that like, like if Blake Lively said, I love just Trish, I don't think it would do much for us. You know,
Starting point is 01:28:56 you want to come on Blake Lively. You can, well, she does have her dragons and that's Taylor. So again, like, do you think she said that? I, the text, I feel like you can well she does have her dragons and that's taylor's again like do you think she said that i the text i feel like you can't doctor especially if you're like submitting it thank you babe um sponsored by tom's these are so good the berry chewies yeah they're so good they help your um acid reflux and uh tummy ache and heartburn not sponsored sponsored. Yeah. No, that was crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:25 That's why it didn't change my opinion on everything. Like, I already believed, like, to be, like, really cringey. And it just solidified that she does come across very cringey. But it didn't change my mind about some form of sexual harassment happening at some point. Of course. You know. That's what I agree with, too. Because it's like, okay, all that stuff does prove that she's, like, a little bashful.
Starting point is 01:29:46 But also, like, if you sexually harass her, that's, like, a completely different thing than her just being cringy and asking Taylor Swift to, like, defend her. Yeah, and I get everyone's points that are making their, like, you know, their kind of – it's basically, like, countering every one of Blake's, like, claims of sexual harassment by saying it wasn't that necessarily. It was actually this, you know? But there's no, like like concrete proof of that like the concrete proof that's in the lawsuit is all blake looks cringy and she wanted to take away the she wanted to claim the direction of the film and she didn't read the book i'm like y'all were hating the book literally last year and now you're mad that she didn't read the book and he did like, y'all were hating the book literally last year. And now you're mad that she didn't read the book and he did. But y'all were literally saying the book was garbage.
Starting point is 01:30:28 So like, what are you upset about? You know? I mean, the proof in the basement was there, which is crazy. I mean, again, it doesn't negate sexual harassment, but it is crazy. I was like, wait, I don't understand. Like, why was he down there? Why did the ceilings have like tiles popped out? Like, why was it not in like another screen in the is to like just put him somewhere else i guess she was really just like
Starting point is 01:30:49 again if he did something to piss off the whole cast and crew because it's also not just blake like the allegations are also about the baby the the baby version of her played by isabella what's those allegations that he was creepy about when she did that sex scene where she lost her virginity. Oh. Yeah. So that was also in Blake's complaint. So...
Starting point is 01:31:09 I mean, to be banished to a basement at your own premiere, I feel like something went down for you to just comply and be like, all right, I'm going in the basement to watch this. And I get what he would
Starting point is 01:31:17 if everyone's against you. It's like, damn, what do I have to do? Honestly, do you even show up at that point? I think if everyone's against me and I'm like, you're going to go to the basement,
Starting point is 01:31:23 I'll be like, you know what? I'll just say I'm sick. I'm tapping out on this one. True. I don't think I... If I was him, I wouldn't i think if everyone's against me and i'm like you're gonna go to the basement i'll be like you know what i'll just say i'm sick i'm tapping out on this one true i don't think i if i was him i wouldn't have gone if everyone was against me but i do get the resilience of still showing up like i think he really did care about the movie you know so and it's his production studio um but yeah i don't know and also there's again i can i could go either way like once the case comes out like
Starting point is 01:31:46 people actually come forward but i just haven't seen anything to negate the sexual harassment and also people are saying well blake lively and ryan reynolds have so much money but justin baldoni's production is backed by a billionaire and the billionaire is backing his side of it and literally said that he wants to bury uh blake and ryan so it's not like justin is like a complete underdog with no money you know like he's being backed by a billionaire but like do you think i think he'll like his reputation definitely got the biggest hit because i do think like blake lively could work again easily i don't know justin baldoni might not i think after the complaint after blaze complaint i don't think so because i mean you can see with Johnny Depp like he won the Amber her trial but it's still hard for him to get work right now obviously Amber like left the country so
Starting point is 01:32:31 yeah um it was like a similar in the sense that like not neither Blake or Johnny are really working again I don't know if Blake even if she wins it's like obviously so unfortunate but and Ryan Reynolds for that matter like they Blake and Ryan have projects coming out this year. But how can you do the press campaign? I feel like everything, even if she wins, like you said, there's still going to be the people who will never believe her, which is unfortunate. But it's reality, you know? I would love to never see another Ryan Reynolds movie ever again. Not only have I ever seen it.
Starting point is 01:33:04 I saw some people on the plane watching like Deadpool. And I like – even though I was bored out of my mind for 11 hours, I'm like I'd rather watch a Milli Vanilli movie than this Deadpool. It just looks so bad even just like watching it on someone else's screen. I'm like this all looks horrible. And yeah, I never liked Ryan Reynolds. That's my hot take. He does seem weird. He always has seemed weird.
Starting point is 01:33:22 And yeah. I don't hate him. I think he's, again, can be cringy. But I think Deadpool, he's really smart with marketing because I think he turned Deadpool into a huge franchise. Oh, you loved it. And kind of saved Marvel. I really liked it. I didn't love it.
Starting point is 01:33:39 It's not like my favorite movie ever, but I enjoyed it. We did cosplay. Yeah. I like the, I like X x-men though so i'm like really biased like i like marvel and stuff and i think he did a good job with it um i think he made it really popular because he knows how to market for sure um but i do think he's a little cringy they are cringe and i'm gonna say more of ryan reynolds i'd rather see blake lively movie than a ryan reynolds movie to be honest i'd rather watch gossip girl 20 times over then see what's
Starting point is 01:34:03 the one where he was like a waiter and split and food do you remember that what was it called it was called waiting i have no idea oh my god they he was just like in a restaurant constantly spitting on people's food i was like this is weird his early stuff was crazy the national lampoon like all of those were just the first movie i remember of his i think is maybe the proposal with sandra bullock oh never saw it and what else did i see him in i don't think i saw him in that much just friends where he was like fat and then he like lost weight i remember there was was there one where he was abigail breslin's dad i honestly don't know that's wild where's abigail breslin i like her um she's around she like came out to speak about blake actually
Starting point is 01:34:44 because she had a similar experience like she reported sexual harassment on set but um she's around she like came out to speak about blake actually because she had a similar experience like she reported sexual harassment on set but um she got fired for reporting it and so that's why she kind of spoke out to like support blake um because of her own like experience and then no one believing her so yeah very unfortunate but i don't know again we'll see it well then he did counteract and say that she was the one that was wanting the kissing scenes too long or did unwanted kissing or something like that yeah that's why again it's like very like he kind of went through and uh there was like a rebuttal for everything that blake claimed in her complaint for like the sexual harassment but again there just wasn't like evidence of it where you can firmly say
Starting point is 01:35:26 it didn't happen i guess like it's very he said she said because then he's like do you not believe him then because he was saying like there was extra kisses and they usually rehearse that beforehand and he was in jane the virgin so he knows about the kissing and he's like she did extra but i thought it was just part of the process and i i don't firmly i can't like hear him say that didn't happen and then just believe him because of like the system that has worked against women for so long. And that's why I do like, would I'd rather go out for the woman and then look a fool than like not
Starting point is 01:35:55 believe them just because the system has worked against women for so long. Like look literally Abigail Breslin being the proof. Like she got fired for reporting sexual harassment like a year or two years ago. Like it's recent. Yeah. Even like look at the me too movement like harvey weinstein was getting his way with all these actresses for years without you know anything without him getting exposed so it's just hollywood has worked against women for so long that like i would just would rather put myself out there and believe a woman who's claiming this versus not like if Blake ends up like if all these people come forward and was like nothing to happen
Starting point is 01:36:29 and Justin wins the case then that's it you know like I would believe it and then that's that but I'd rather look a fool then but what about no one who's looked out for the guys like Demi Moore kissing a 15 year old boy and Justin Bieber getting groped by you know pop stars and stuff like that. And, like, no one even says anything. No one even, like, bats an eye for them. You know what I mean? True.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Yeah. I guess similarly, like, the – and we see with, like, the Menendez brothers back in the day. Like, people thought, like, men couldn't be victims. And I think that definitely is something, too. But I think if Justin was claiming, like, the sexual harassment thing, that would be one thing. But, like, he, Blake claimed it. There's a document that was signed because of the claims.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Yeah. So, so tough. It's tough. It is tough. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Like I'm willing.
Starting point is 01:37:17 I think sexual harassment can work both ways. And when he was saying like, she did extra kisses and I was like, ah, like, okay, well, what if that's true?
Starting point is 01:37:22 You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, and you know, she's obviously more, I don't know. don't know I yeah I I do lean more towards team Blake because those counter stuff that he came with it's like okay but like none of that equates to like sexual harassment but then he did have those little things in there and I'm like well maybe he felt uncomfortable too I don't know I don't know how it goes you know because he's like ultra religious but um it is all the stuff that comes out it does does become like it is like entertainment at this point.
Starting point is 01:37:45 But it's like kind of sad. You know what I mean? Yeah, it makes me sad more than anything. And people are not normal. There's a good chunk of people who are not normal about their opinions on the case, too. Like it's so intense. Like for me, it's like, well, with information I know now, this is my opinion, but it can change.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Like it's not a firm stance. But there are people that are so intense about it and are like oscar you're biased blah blah blah like if you go to if you go to tiktok you would know about the case but i'm like anywhere you get your news is by each platform is biased either towards blake or towards ryan like i get a lot of my information about the case on twitter and reddit and those platforms are biased towards blake so a lot of people like when i talked about it the first time a couple weeks ago there was a lawyer who like represents a lot of like sexual harassment victims and like broke it down from her perspective right but then on tiktok um and instagram it's very much pro justin yeah i get all my information yeah well i see his side you know it's like i yeah so the pov there is very much
Starting point is 01:38:43 like it can be that's why there's lawyers because you can argue the case both, you know? It's like, I, yeah. So the POV there is very much like, it can be, that's why there's lawyers, because you can argue the case both ways, you know? So that's why until, like, witnesses and stuff speak out, then I feel like you can kind of. I mean, there's people, like, watching and stuff. People have, like, video. There's, like, one video, and it's, like, her, like, pulling Justin in and, like, see, she was, like, pulling him in, and he looks uncomfortable, because, like, I don't know if he's, like, acting.
Starting point is 01:39:04 I don't know what the scene is. there's so much like footage of people like behind the scenes like on the streets filming this yeah because they didn't film it in public so yeah so i was like how is like more people not seen this but i guess yeah if it goes to trial then it becomes that but yeah because i think there's just there's got to be more in there you know yeah and also like on tiktok too people like i knew taylor was just as bad as blake i'm like all she said was like her friend's script was good. Wait, do you think that's real? That like he came into like their penthouse and like Taylor Swift was there and was like,
Starting point is 01:39:31 I really think these changes need to be made. Or what did she say? She was like. She just said that she liked it. Her Blake script of the rooftop scene or whatever. But I'm like, Justin, you also said that you liked it. So like, why am I going to be mad at Taylor for agreeing? I think Blake is weird for
Starting point is 01:39:45 being like they're just like my dragons like yeah yeah because that is kind of like intimidating you know like the biggest pop star and like ryan reynolds you kind of like so you think that happened like that taylor switches in the penthouse like i love this i think i could definitely see that happening like her just being there and then blake being i feel like maybe the circumstances this is just me like inferring based on reading it that maybe it was just like not like an official like film production meaning it was like a casual like hangout we'll talk about it and then they are really close like taylor is like basically the godmother godmother to like blake and ryan's kids and stuff so like
Starting point is 01:40:21 you're just hanging out taylor swift and then you just stop by and like love this script like it's like i mean i guess that i guess she's a real person but it's just so funny like i couldn't even imagine and he said what that was like an intimidation like thing basically yeah that he was like i guess intimidated into accepting blake's changes but he also said that it was good yeah it is like silly that's what i'm saying like some of the stuff gets like so silly but it's that to me is like the entertainment part of it because it is like so cringe you're just like what but I guess everything I know because it's like that's why like all the evidence and stuff is her like wanting to hijack the film
Starting point is 01:40:51 or whatever which is weird like I agree with that's weird but also so I'm saying we're losing like the plot which is like the point was like the harassment right yeah I am and everything else her being cringy her wanting to rewrite scenes her wanting to take control of the production or whatever and the wardrobe I'm like the movie would have been the movie
Starting point is 01:41:09 like the movie was never going to be great we're losing the plot the book was not good the movie was never going to be an Oscar winning film yeah who cares
Starting point is 01:41:16 I don't care the wardrobe conversation is always so funny too I'm like we just let her dress in that oh my god like it is I don't know
Starting point is 01:41:24 did you harass her or not like yeah let what it is. I don't know. Did you harass her or not? Like, let's keep it there. I don't need 180 pages of other stuff. It is wild. I don't get it. I don't get it either. That's why I kind of am tapped out. Or the harassment being like, did you show your wife giving birth or did you show?
Starting point is 01:41:38 Like, you know, what was it? Exactly, yeah. Also, why did you show your wife giving birth? Was it, I guess, for the scene? Is it for the scene? Yeah. It's not really. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:44 And like the breastfeeding stuff too like literally he's like no like the evidence back and forth it was like well she invited us into her trailer all the time where she was just hanging out and breastfeeding and her boob was out and then they keep showing the one text oh i'm pumping but yeah you can come in right pumping and breastfeeding very different so like yeah why is the only evidence just that one text saying I'm pumping, you can come in? Why is there nothing else? Like, Oh,
Starting point is 01:42:06 I'm breastfeeding right now, you know? Right, right, right. So, cause you can pump and still be covered as far as I know. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Um, I'm not a pumper, so I don't know. Pumping sounds a lot. I don't know. Um, yeah. Breastfeeding is such a hot topic for people.
Starting point is 01:42:22 I don't know. People are like, well, I don't know anything about that. Because I've seen my nephews and stuff when he was an infant and been in the living room and my sister-in-law would be pumping or whatever. And she's fully covered. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:40 It could probably be – that's what I would think would be Blake's situation. But what was the argument to begin with? Like that he and the other producer would just walk into Blake's trailer when she was in different forms of like undress. But who was like, was she saying that was harassment or he saying like, it was totally fine. This is what we always did. That Blake is claiming that as part of as a part of the harassment. She was uncomfortable with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:00 And he's saying she said, it's fine. Come in. Yeah. Oh, but the only text that says come in is like oh i'm pumping but you can come in so that's what i'm saying that's yeah that's so all of it's yeah so that's why i'm like i just kind of need more i think we'll just never know i think it's never going to be full truth to anything like i don't i think like you said there could be like witnesses but like people still won't like believe whatever yeah i mean even like you said like denying that i remember her i mean there was tapes and people still were
Starting point is 01:43:27 like well no and this and what's our this it was defense it was you know well they started it they were drinking whatever you know there's always defense for it people i think a lot of people are gonna have their opinions either way and won't be swayed no matter what you think it'll settle i don't know i really don't know because it is such an insane amount of money i think what he's showing her for 400 million yeah crazy number um i think because the money in my opinion almost seems more symbolic than anything like it's the most outrageous numbers to get like the headlines but i think what is really at stake is some kind of reputation. Again, will either of them be working as much?
Starting point is 01:44:09 I don't think so. But I think to at least be declared a winner in the court of public opinion is like what really is at stake and like the most valuable thing. It's just a huge PR war between two big egos. And it's a lose-lose situation and mainly our loss
Starting point is 01:44:24 because we have to deal with it. That's what I'm here for. I'm here for all, except for the sad parts. But I kind of like the entertainment of it, the dragons, all that. I'm like, it's kind of cool. I like the PR,
Starting point is 01:44:33 like, I guess, like, the PR war too because it's like, not only Justin's doing, you know, Blake, but it's also like the publicists are going at it, which is so insane.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Yeah. It's for people who have, like, mundane lives like us that I'm like, I get kind of invested. Because it's not me. If it wasn't me, I'd be like, that sucks. But if it's for people who have like mundane lives like us that i'm like i get kind of invested because it's not me if i wasn't me i'd be like that sucks but if it's like you know i have nothing else going on so people that are that you know like celebrities or people that are way up there whether they're really wealthy or really famous they live in a different reality and in that reality they do like have the dragons and things like there's nothing it sucks that he's trying to shame her for speech speaking in a way that's so like i don't know poetic or spiritual or whatever
Starting point is 01:45:10 like there's nothing to it there's nothing wrong about it and you know there's these people are powerful like if you think about taylor swift as a dragon she is she can go and move billions of dollars and billions of like she can do whatever she wants she has power so it's like they live in a different world and for us to chime into those text messages it's not for us and it's not our world i love the defense of blake lively but that's kind of everything but and i'm not on her side i think she's wrong but i wouldn't shame her no but i wouldn't shame her about that like yeah they live in that world and it's fine i think because it's so like silly to us like it's just like not a real like to us it's not reality. Like that's so crazy.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Right. But they detached themselves from reality with the fame and fortune. And that's the world they live in. It's fine. I like Taylor. I switch one of your. Did she, was she referring to Ryan and Taylor? Or is that just in first?
Starting point is 01:45:56 That's the two dragons. Yeah. Like confirmed? He. Well, when you follow the conversation, that's what it alludes to. Yeah. I love that. I'm going to refer to you as, you and Malib it alludes to. Yeah. I love that. I'm going to refer to you as you and Malibu and Elvis are my dragons.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I love it. You're the dragon and Elvis is the dragon. I'm the snake. That's true. But mother of dragons over here. Malibu is the tiger. Because I love how she phrased it too. It was just very much like.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Have you seen the show Game of Thrones? Oh, girl. Come on. If you ever get around to watching it. No, but she's telling him like join our team. We're a powerful team. We'll be on your powerful team that's what she said him yeah you could also benefit from this so it's so corny very very corny that's why like
Starting point is 01:46:34 i do get the entertainment factories too i don't know it's just the sexual harassment i'm like damn like what actually is the tea and i just yeah it'll be a long time before any of that really comes out I guess but it's I mean Brittany also said she was uncomfortable with Justin Baldoni hugging her so I'm team Brittany I'll believe her and then the video Justin at the airport and he was like all smiling and stuff with the paparazzi I'm like this also kind of makes me uncomfortable they both everyone kind of makes me uncomfortable I don't want to see there's paparazzi of like Ryan Reynolds walking down the street he was just looking serious but I'm. I don't want to see there's paparazzi of like Ryan Reynolds walking down the street. He was just looking serious.
Starting point is 01:47:06 But I'm like, I don't even want to see that. Well, if he looks serious, yeah, Justin went the other route. He's just like, hey. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Was he at LAX? I could have seen him. Maybe I was there that same day. I think he was at LAX. Really? It looked like it. There is always like paparazzi out there. I always think I'm going to see like a celebrity.
Starting point is 01:47:21 There was a celebrity in front of me, but I couldn't recognize who it was. It looked like maybe Dakota Johnson or Anne Hathaway because like the flight attendants were taking pictures with her. Oh, really? Yeah. This must see like a celebrity. There was a celebrity in front of me, but I couldn't recognize who it was. It looked like maybe Dakota Johnson or Anne Hathaway because like the flight attendants were taking pictures with her. Oh, really? Yeah, this must be like a big deal because right before we landed
Starting point is 01:47:30 and I was like trying to hear her voice and I was like brushing my hair. So I set up like my camera so I could like look at myself brushed so I could see the brush. I was trying to get her, but like it didn't come through, but she just had like bangs, you know?
Starting point is 01:47:39 So I was like, I wonder who it was. Dakota Johnson was on vacation. Oh, maybe it was her. Maybe it was her. Because she was very like petite and she had the bangs and I was like, that's... And was. Dakota Johnson was on vacation. Oh, maybe it was her. Maybe it was her. Because she was very like petite and she had the bangs. And I was like, that's. And she was right in front of me. So she was watching Deadpool and she was like sleeping most of the flight.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Maybe not Dakota Johnson. I could not imagine Dakota Johnson watching. Well, maybe she was sleeping. Whoever was watching Deadpool fell asleep because I saw them. I'm surprised when people watch when airplanes. Look at what she watched. That's true. No, that plane twice was crazy.
Starting point is 01:48:04 They wouldn't let me watch it on the way to the uk but let me watch it back like the movie was like blocked or something and then on the way back they let me watch it and i was like okay oh they were she was in india with uh chris martin well maybe she did like a layover it could make sense yeah it is probable yeah because she was photographed there on the 18th so it's possible oh yeah yeah maybe she was on my flight. I didn't know. I was trying. I was going to see a picture.
Starting point is 01:48:28 I'm like, that's weird. Let me not do that. But I wanted to like see if you knew. Because I was like, Oscar, I could identify her. Yeah. Either would be gaggy. I love Anne Hathaway as well. I know.
Starting point is 01:48:36 I thought it would be for her too. She's not going to be playing Mother Gothel. They said J-Lo is going to be playing Mother Gothel in the. Is that real? I think she liked a pose saying JLo for Mother Gothel. Really? Yeah, like the live action. I would love that.
Starting point is 01:48:51 That would be nuts. You know what I thought was fake news this morning and it was real and I love that it was real? Addison Rae on the cover of Rolling Stone. I thought it was fake too. I had to double check. I was like, who tweeted this? And it was the proper pop craze.
Starting point is 01:49:02 I was like, wow. That's crazy. The cover of rolling stone is actually insane i guess she has a new album coming out this year what is a1 love i think that's what they is that the official name or i think because they call like you know the albums i guess you're gay one would be like tp what eight oh is that what it is oh like addison right oh i thought it was A1 to sauce. I love A1 sauce. Mm, that sounds so good.
Starting point is 01:49:26 Yeah, so I have TP8. I wonder what number album mine is going to be. I know. I was going to say, I kind of lose track of how many. We'll have to look it up. I don't know. Oh, I did think of a – before we go back to Addison, I can't forget. I did have a line for a song for you for like one of your gay songs.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Let's hear it. Moses is making bolognese. Gonna eat it with my gays. That's all I have. That's good. How did you think of that? When did you think of that? Are you just like in the morning, at night?
Starting point is 01:49:49 Like when do you think of that lyric? What rhymes with gays? I love it. Bolognese and gays is such a good one. That sounds like a RuPaul song too. Like for my talent show. How did you think of that? Where were you?
Starting point is 01:50:01 This is the most like on brand thing ever. I was watching, you know was watching you know my friend my friend jenna expanded her stream and she was trolling by not knowing how to pronounce bolognese and then i was like i was like bolognese and then she was kept saying things that rhyme with bolognese and i was like gays did you chime in anyone say that? Probably. I'm sure a lot of people did. Because it kind of sounds like bowl of gays is what I was thinking. Oh, that's a good name for a song too. A bowl of gays.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Because she was pronouncing it all these different ways. Like bowl, like nausea. Bolognese. Yes. Yeah, it is an interesting word. So then I thought of bowl of gays. Oh my God. And then I was like, oh, that could be a Trisha song.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Okay. Done. Done and done. of Bull of Gaze. Oh, my God. And then I was like, oh, that could be a Trisha song. Okay. Done. Done and done. That's a good line. I love that you just, like, thought of that during the Gen X Pen livestream. Was that a nighttime stream or daytime? I think she was streaming at night, but I was watching it, like, the replay in the morning. Doing what?
Starting point is 01:50:58 What was I doing? Yeah. Probably, like, cleaning or something. Oh, so you don't just ever, like, sit and watch. No, I'm, like, doing something. But I need something long in the background while I'm doing a task because otherwise I can't do a task.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Moses listens to our podcast on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Yeah, he always like is listening to Just Trish. I'm like, I hate it. But like, especially when we'd be in the car, like we drove up to Vegas and I'm like, because he would think I'm sleeping, but I'm like, I still hear my voice. Like I hate.
Starting point is 01:51:23 I can't watch it back. I used to be able to watch it back, but when when i edit it because i knew what i was going to say but now that i don't know what i'm going to say with jimmy editing i don't want to watch yeah yeah you're like i don't want to see it i don't want to hear it yeah yeah i'm the same i don't like hearing back i guess say hi to everyone in the chat we have a great community yeah but sometimes you're just like randomly doing stuff listening to it i was like that's so random also monitoring quality things you know sometimes quality check jimmy watch out suddenly blackout that's so funny well i love that you love the show i don't want to see what
Starting point is 01:51:58 jimmy adds to the show that's true you never know yeah the edits are so good we love you jimmy i gave him footage at like 10 o'clock last night and he had it done by like 1 in the morning. I was playing with him when the footage got delivered. He's like, oh, I have to go now. I just got the cards. I was like, okay. I felt so bad. I was like, I am so sorry.
Starting point is 01:52:15 I'm like, just get it done whenever. You don't have to be on time. And then I get a text like 152. He's like, it's done. I was like, that was fast. Love you, Jimmy. Wetsies, putzies. But yeah, I guess back to Addison.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Oh, yeah. Yeah, the cover I thought was like a fan-made cover or something. But yeah, official Rolling Stone cover. I'm excited to see what she does. It's so good. It was like all pink on pink steps. Yeah, and blonde. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:40 I love her. I'm so happy, actually. She does seem like she's going to be like a big – I think this will be her year, like, blow-up year for sure. AR1 is going to be – Yeah, especially, like, her group of friends now. Like, she's working with Charli XCX. Oh, my God. Did you see there was a video –
Starting point is 01:52:54 I think it was when Addison did her remix of Von Dutch with Charli. Like, it was Charli, like, playing it for Addison. And Addison was, like, so casual on the couch sitting next to Charli XCX. I mean, like, love that. That's so cute. And I was like, love these the couch sitting next to Charlie XCX. I mean like love that. That's so cute. And I was like love these girls. I know. I love that too. I need a bestie like that. I need to find who would my bestie be. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:13 No one's old like me. Everyone's so young. It'd be unnatural for me to be like next to Sabrina Carpenter being like love that. I don't know who I would be. Who's like a middle age pop star that I could be friends with? Maybe like Avril Lavigne. Love.
Starting point is 01:53:28 She checked on Heidi and Spencer. I love that. She like showed up to their house and was like, how are you guys doing? That's so cute. Yeah, she seems really nice. Yeah, she does seem nice. I love like – even like Mandy Moore is staying with Hilary Duff right now. That's everything.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Yeah, I love that friendship. Love both Mandy and Hilary. I know. That would be so cool to be friends with someone like that's fun i don't know i guess i'm still manifesting me and sydney sweeney i feel like that's a big one it is big yeah i don't i keep throwing it out there i'm like maybe yeah maybe you'll meet at the met gala this year i always comment on sydney's like instagram and i still get like i'd like i commented on one like months ago and i still get likes on it really? yeah I'd be hyping her up on her Instagram posts
Starting point is 01:54:07 what do you say? well there was one where she posted about being like body shamed or whatever like she did a montage of like all these mean comments and then showed her in the gym
Starting point is 01:54:14 and I was like the fact that we are living at the same time as Sydney Sweeney getting body shamed we are so cooked crying emoji that's so Gen Z of you
Starting point is 01:54:24 and then she's in this new movie called The Housemaid or The Maid. And it's a book. And I read that book and I like the book. And she's the star. She's a star and producer with Amanda Seyfried. I love her too. Is it out? It's just being filmed right now.
Starting point is 01:54:40 But when she posts little updates, I always comment supporting. I love the hype on Instagram. I'm here, Sydney, if you ever need a good good gay i feel like every girl needs a good hype gay yeah and i will hype you up i feel like you're not gonna hype me up anymore if you're gonna be with sydney she's gonna start a podcast i'll be like wait i thought you're my hype you're trying to apply for other people all right all right i see how it is i'm looking for a hype gay to be here if anybody wants to fill in. I'm good at hyping up all the girlies, though.
Starting point is 01:55:08 You are very good. Yeah, I love clients. You are the ultimate hype because you laugh. You're smart. You can help with a guy to the direction, too. You know. You have the taste. You know what the people want.
Starting point is 01:55:18 The PR degree. Yeah. No, it is actually really. You are very smart. Because some people have, like, the sass, but not the, you know, the media training. And then there's, you know, some people are really smart. Because some people have like the sass but not the media training and there's – some people are really smart but they're like boring. Well, you're my hype girl then. Yeah. Every gay needs a hype girl.
Starting point is 01:55:36 Every girl needs a hype gay. I'm your hype girl forever. Yeah. I'm like number one fan of the vlogs. I'm always like where's the next – do you have one planned coming up? I want to do a video where I rank YouTubers' apologies because I feel like that would be kind of funny. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Ranking YouTuber apologies. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have to make a little tier list or something. Who's number one? The best one? I don't even know yet. I'm trying to think of the worst ones.
Starting point is 01:55:59 I was going to say, how do you rank it? Do you rank it best or the worst? Because there's been a pattern and it seems like nobody outdid Colleen. So she claimed that. That was on Twitter. There was a tweet that was like, what was it? Something about how she came out with the ukulele. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:14 And it's like, what was it? It was such a good tweet. It was something that every few months or a year. But no one topped this. Since then, there's not been one. I mean, like, it's a traumatic event, but also so camp to do a ukulele apology. You know what I mean? She's awful and horrible and like should not be like celebrated as like a master artist, but it was pretty.
Starting point is 01:56:37 That thumbnail alone just. Not a groomer. Just a loser. Just a loser. That was. Crazy. Toxic gossip train catchy that was something that was crazy i think it's like i just disassociated during that time like i really did like black out so much of it so it's like i don't even i remember i remember we were driving back to pick up my mom from the airport marina delver hey and i just was like i was just like
Starting point is 01:57:04 shaking and just like I was so confused. And it just was like so much to process because I think I was still talking to her at the time. Yeah, we didn't know it. Yeah. I think she sent it to me and I was like, I can't watch. Like, I don't know what this is. No, she didn't even say anything. It was just like.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Here's the video. Take a look at this. Yeah. I was like, what did I say? And I didn't. I just. Whew. And then she like wouldn't leave me alone. And she was like blowing up my phone. And I was just like, I just, whew. And then she like, wouldn't leave me alone
Starting point is 01:57:25 and she was like, blowing up my phone and I was just like, I, like, girl, on my ass. One day our kids
Starting point is 01:57:29 will be in the club and this will be like a, there'll be a trance or dance version of that song. Oh my God. It was very traumatic. It will be that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Yeah, like a remix to it. I wonder which is more trauma because I was talking about this on Not Love Line today too. It's like when we were talking about David Dobrik and how like it came back and gave me like, like literally like anxiety. Like I started like. Because I was talking about this on Not Love Line today, too. It's like when we were talking about David Dobrik and how, like, it came back and gave me, like, literally, like, anxiety.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Like, I started, like, shaking. And I was like, I don't know which one is more traumatic. I guess because the Colleen one is, like, more fresh. And that was, like, you know, shocking. But, David, I was in it for such a long haul. You know what I mean? It was, like, a year long of, I guess, like, not knowing the psychological abuse of it all. And just, like, afterwards coming out of it and being like, what just happened?
Starting point is 01:58:05 I was like, shell shock. Also, you were – it's an odd one because you were in a relationship with the whole group. You know what I mean? Yeah. The person you're in a relationship with is the whole group too. Right. But the Koli one was so shocking because it was such a whirlwind. It's like we started like three episodes and she hyped me up so much.
Starting point is 01:58:21 And it was just like, I love your body. I could never see one wrong thing about it. And to see all those, it's just like such a, it's such a shock. It's just such, it's so wild. But yeah, that was a shock. The gaslighting, all of it was just, okay. See, I start getting a little PTSD. I know people are like, don't use that term lightly, but I'm not like, I start like kind
Starting point is 01:58:40 of like shaking about it. It makes sense though, too, because it's also like in the era of like, you had, she had a baby, you had a baby. It's like in the era of like you coming out of the other side, you know? Yes. Like you did all this work on yourself. You're like finally on the right path and then all this happens.
Starting point is 01:58:56 So you could also, you're like more present during the Colleen stuff because you're more like in your mind. Right. Versus like all the David stuff. You were like, that was a crazy time for you already. Crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:06 With substance and mental illness. Yeah. Just out of my mind. And this one, I'm so insane mind and I'm so in like at peace and I'm just like, what do I do?
Starting point is 01:59:14 It's like a spiral and I'm like, I don't know how to handle this. I don't know how to handle this. And it's like, it was, it was a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:20 To be involved and also just be fully aware is like. There is something about being unaware. Actually, that was the and also just be fully aware is like... Yes. There is something about being unaware. Actually, that was the plot of Blink Twice. He's like, forgetting is a great gift. Tea. Yeah. Not in the case of that movie,
Starting point is 01:59:34 but it did make sense because she couldn't remember her traumas, and he's like, that's like a gift. And I was like, honestly, yeah. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. Well, I wish everyone well. everyone well far away from me this is why i don't have friendships and i tell everyone right away like i don't want friends like do not try to be my friend do not i don't want any of it to stay isolated forever the toxic gossip tray catchy sing an apology.
Starting point is 02:00:07 You look cool today in your converse. You look like West Side Story today. Oh, I'll take it. Yeah. The black pants with the white socks giving Michael Jackson. Oh, I was going to think Mike Feist. Oh, Mike Feist. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:18 I love Mike Feist. I can't wait to see the nominees. When do Oscar nominees come out? They keep getting delayed. Why? Because of fires. So they keep pushing back the voting period. I think this coming week.
Starting point is 02:00:30 It was supposed to be on yesterday, I think, Sunday, I think initially. And then they keep pushing it back. I can't believe like Cynthia Erivo will like not win the Oscar. Like that's actually so crazy because that's like the biggest movie. And she's so good and so talented and doing so much like stunts and singing. And like it's kind of crazy. i think there is talk i don't know how valid this is but like the industry quote unquote is saying that like now after the fires people are more likely to vote for wicked for the awards because they want some kind of like positivity
Starting point is 02:01:00 because i think a lot of other movies are very dark. So now Wicked's chances are increasing. Interesting. Yeah. And also I guess there was some AI used in The Brutalist and in Amelia Perez, which is like a lot of the creatives are upset about AI being used. Not shiz. That was built from the ground up. Look at the behind the scenes of it.
Starting point is 02:01:24 There you go. Yeah. That is crazy. It just like didn't win anything at that. What was it? Golden Globes. Yeah. built from the ground up. Look at the behind the scenes of it. There you go. Yeah. That is crazy. It just like didn't win anything at that. What was it? Golden Globes. Yeah. It's like so weird to me.
Starting point is 02:01:31 Like Demi Moore is probably a great actress in all of them. Selena Gomez is a great actress. But like she did everything. She was like stunt woman singing upside down. Like acting. But Demi Moore was in that makeup chair for like nine hours or something she said. Which is crazy. Margaret Qualley said she had acne for a year because of the prosthetics that they put on her.
Starting point is 02:01:50 They suffered for their eyes. Give her an accent. I'll go in after that. No, I mean, yeah, that's true. But Cynthia also had to be in that green paint. That's true. And she also had transformation. She got those ears, like fake ears and everything.
Starting point is 02:02:01 She had to do a lot too, so. Yeah. Anyways, I hope everybody wins. I hope everybody's a winner at the Oscars. And Oscar will be at the Oscars. Well. No. Well, no, but.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Harry Daniels will be at the Oscars. Probably, yeah. Harry Daniels was so sad. TikTok was gone. He was like no longer talking. And he used my meme. Oh, yeah. But it's. Oh, you know what else was really upset though is James Charles.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Did you see him crashing out over – Well, he hacked it. It was way back in, right? How did he do that? He set the VPN. Was it Cardi B who did that too? She's like, I cracked a code. I had to get a VPN in Hawaii or something like that.
Starting point is 02:02:40 It was very odd. So, yeah. As soon as TikTok went down, James' alts or like burner account was very odd. So, yeah, as soon as TikTok went down, James' alts or, like, burner account was, like, revealed. And he, like, already got 500,000 followers, like, very quickly after, like, posting his first TikTok from there. And he was, like, hiding under the covers and whispering as if, like, the FBI was, like, at his door or something. There was a campness to it. I did giggle. I hate to say it.
Starting point is 02:03:03 I know. James was kind of entertaining. There was a campness to it. I did giggle. I hate to say it. I know. James is kind of entertaining. It was funny. Yeah. But there's, I think, two theories. I think what's most reported right now is that he had someone in the UK post it for him, like make the account and post it for him. Oh, that's funny.
Starting point is 02:03:19 That's cool. Which makes the most sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so smart. I should have done that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:24 I'm so here. You had all your UK contacts. I should have stayed in the uk and kept posting that would have been so yeah i was a day before um and then there's like the other theory that like you could use a vpn but the account has to be made in one of the countries where it's legal like if it's made in the uk and then it has to have like a number associated with the account. Oh my gosh. And then you could use it here with the VPN but it has to be made at the country. So like they set it up
Starting point is 02:03:50 over there and then send it to you. Yeah. That's smart. There's someone I follow who like is Canadian and like lives in America but like made his TikTok
Starting point is 02:03:57 in Canada so he still had access to it because he could VPN from Canada. Oh, that's so smart. Because it depends where it's made. The hacks are so smart.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Oh my gosh. But then do you like just see, you don't see, obviously there so smart. Because it depends where it's made. The hacks are so smart. Oh, my gosh. But then do you, like, just see? You don't see. Obviously, there's no American influencers. Yeah, so it's a lot quieter. That's why everyone, like, all the non-Americans are like, wow, it's so quiet here now. Like, what are you even a watch over? And, like, because people in the UK were telling me their whole timeline is Americans, which
Starting point is 02:04:19 is so odd because we were always talking, like, we never see people in foreign countries. So I always thought they just gave us, like, United States people because we're in the United States. But we never see people in, like so i was that they just gave us like united states people because we're the united states but we never see people in like germany or anything that's true i wonder what like the ratio of like users in each country is because what here is like 170 million americans use tiktok or something so crazy yeah how many americans live in america that's a good question let me see a billion three billion because you know mcdonald's always has like serving 3.4 billion it Is that how many people is in America?
Starting point is 02:04:47 334.9 million. 334 million. So why does McDonald's say they serve 3.4 billion? Because they're around the world. Well, it's not good other places. So I don't know why they're serving that many. Wow, that's crazy. Good for you, McDonald's.
Starting point is 02:05:01 Do you think the person who like founded McDonald's, do they get all the money? They must, right? Like even if different like franchises are made, they still – They get all the all the money? They must, right? Like, even if different, like, franchises are made. They get all the franchise money? I would think, right? Or not all of it, but, like, a good chunk. Because it's, like, their creation, I would think. Did you ever watch the movie about the guy who's driving McDonald's, right? Supersize Me?
Starting point is 02:05:16 Oh. You made it? I thought you said ate it. No, made it. Made it. No, I didn't. It has Michael Keaton. I forget his name.
Starting point is 02:05:24 What was his name? Roy Founder. was that his name i don't know roy something nothing good with names okay he started mcdonald's it's pretty crazy i was like that's pretty impressive he believed in the 25 cent burger not 25 cents anymore but isn't it crazy that there's like i don't i heard this i don't know like how science maybe moses will know but like isn't there a specific combination of the salt or whatever fatty thing that they put in the fast food that makes it addictive? Isn't that a big part of it? I think in general, I think that's why you didn't like it in the UK.
Starting point is 02:05:58 There's not enough fakeness. Yeah, because I remember even in and out when you were pregnant, I always look up things. And there's like 27 chemicals in like one. Oh my God, why did you look that up? I mean, it every day. And you're like, okay, there's a reason. That was wild. It tastes like so, you know, good at the moment.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Why would you look that up? It's so weird. While I was eating it, you're like, well, let me see how many chemicals she's eating. Like, I'm eating it, so what does it matter? So it makes sense why you. When you were pregnant. But you never said anything to me. You never were like, you're eating 27 chemicals a day.
Starting point is 02:06:28 And I was like, okay. No, anything... At 7 a.m. He's like, well, I just wanted to know for me. I didn't tell you. If you ate it three times a day every day. But no, anything excessive. But you don't do anything excessively.
Starting point is 02:06:40 You've been making me the Kraft mac and cheese. I'm surprised you make me that. Because someone told us that it's like... Once a month. It's not a big deal. Oh, I've been eating it a lot. Someone told us it making me the Kraft mac and cheese. I'm surprised you make me that. Because someone told us that it's like. Once a month. It's not a big deal. I've been eating it a lot. Someone told us it was like toxic. The powdered cheese.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Really? Yeah. Someone said it was like not good for you in general. I guess it makes sense thinking about like. It is powdered cheese that's out all the time. It's so good. It is so good. It's my favorite thing at the moment.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Kraft mac and cheese. It's good. I haven't had it in so long. But love. She has the spirals. Yeah. Good at the spirals. Rickman's not as good. Make haven't had it in so long, but love. She has the spirals. Yeah. Good at the spirals. Rickman's not as good.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Make it in a pot. That's a wop. That's a wop. Do you remember that TikTok sound? I do. I do recall that. So good, man. I do love a mac and cheese.
Starting point is 02:07:18 What are we trying for our next kitchen? Cheesecake factor? Or what are we going to do? Oh, yeah. We keep saying cheesecake factory. Yeah. They have a lot of Valentine's Day stuff out, too, now. Like Chick-fil-A has the heart-shaped, and the pizzas are heart-shaped places. Oh, I love heart-shaped do? Oh, yeah. We keep saying Cheesecake Factory. They have a lot of Valentine's Day stuff out too now. Like Chick-fil-A has the heart-shaped and the pizzas are heart-shaped places.
Starting point is 02:07:27 Oh, I love heart-shaped anything. Me too. But when is Valentine's Day? Oh, for the 14th. Yeah. It's coming up. Quickly. Too quickly.
Starting point is 02:07:34 No gifts this year because I can never think of anything for Moses, so we are not doing gifts. No gifts at all. Not even like a little boob basket situation? That sounds like a lot of work. Oh, yeah. Because then he has to leave the house for like an hour
Starting point is 02:07:47 and I'm just like, oh, I'm... He's like, don't leave the house. He leaves for long. When you go do an errand, you're gone for like five hours and I'm like,
Starting point is 02:07:54 oh, I'm back. Well, you do a lot. You'll do all your errands at once, right? Yeah. I'm sure they'll be out for five hours. You are.
Starting point is 02:08:00 That's right. Then you're doing canned fish review. I'm just like, I don't know where he's at. Because he'll be like, oh, I'm going to the store but then it's like three hours later and then I see TikToks and I'm just like I don't know where he's at because he'll be like oh I'm going to the store but then it's like
Starting point is 02:08:05 three hours later and then I see TikToks and I'm just like oh right Darian wants to be a TikToker too nah what's he gonna do
Starting point is 02:08:12 what's funny though is he he ordered like one of those cases that sticks to a mirror and this was like when the the date for TikTok
Starting point is 02:08:20 getting banned was like set and I was like he bought it like two days before the ban and I was like I'm starting you know that ban
Starting point is 02:08:24 that's starting on Sunday right he was like it's getting banned like he bought it like two days before the band and i was like i'm starting you know the band is starting on sunday right he's like it's getting bad like he had no idea for some reason i don't know how it lives under a rock somehow but um and then he did get banned and he was kind of sad about it but it's funny though because he was watching back our like video and he's like he thought his energy was out of 10 like he thought he was giving really yes did you know it was low? I knew it was. He has like a presenting voice like when he's being perceived. I see. He talks very slow and monotone.
Starting point is 02:08:51 And I've made fun of him for this since like we started dating. Yeah. I remember we were like he came to visit once and he had like an online. Oh, no. He had like a work Zoom call or something. And his voice was like, hello, my name is Darian. Like it was so different. And how is it normally?
Starting point is 02:09:04 He talked like inflect like, up and down. It's, like, a little gayer, I guess. But his presenting voice is, like, more, like, monotone deep. Okay. And then he, I could tell he has some jokes in there. But he was just saying them so, like, low and monotone. Did you like it? Or do you think he's funny on camera?
Starting point is 02:09:22 Um, I think he's funny in real life. That's how I always say about Moses. He is so Moses. That's so funny. Because, I mean, people do think Moses is funny, which I love. I love it. We love Moses' jokes. I love it.
Starting point is 02:09:32 Great. But it is funny because to me, I think you're different, too. Like, I think, I mean, I think you're cute no matter what. But I think in real life, you're so funny. And then, yeah, like on camera, I mean, you're great on the podcast. I'm just saying, in general, I can never film together because I'm like, I don't know. I was like, I don't know. I'm like, it's like different. There is an evolution to it. You know, like it will take him time to evolve, to understand
Starting point is 02:09:50 what it means to be on camera. Because like when we started just making an event, like eating in the car, I wasn't thinking about I'm a participant in a video. I'm just, I'm eating right now. So she would, she would drive the whole conversation. I wouldn't even ask anything back. I couldn't think about it. Oh, we need to spark a conversation here. Every comment's like, they have zero chemistry. He hates her, not into her. Yeah, he looked like, Darian looked like I held him at gunpoint.
Starting point is 02:10:18 I knew as I was editing this, I was like, people are going to watch this. Meanwhile, it was his idea. I was like, damn. I was like, people are going to watch this. Meanwhile, it was his idea. I was like, damn. I'm like, I know exactly what people are going to think. He just looks so serious. And I'm like, people are literally going to think I have like a gun behind his back to film this. That happens. When you're like, someone's like, that's not on camera.
Starting point is 02:10:38 But he said the same thing. He has to see it. He has to be aware of himself. Like even seeing yourself in 3D and video is different. Yeah. Because when you look at yourself in in your mirror you always look at yourself at the same angle so you're actually not even aware of what you really look like until you see yourself yeah that's what he says like you and trisha have years of media training like this is new for me no i mean yeah it's hard even when i'm in other people's videos I feel like I'm like
Starting point is 02:11:05 awkward and weird because it is a different thing you know what I mean like he did good I thought I thought it was cute yeah and then
Starting point is 02:11:10 Oscar Crave made him like a little fan cam so that hyped him up to make get ready with me TikTok wow so did he post
Starting point is 02:11:17 his first TikTok yeah he said he's gonna try on he hasn't left the house yet because his school has been home because of the fires because it's
Starting point is 02:11:24 yeah so i think on tuesday is the first time he's going out so i think tuesday is when he is hoping to film it but he's also very much a perfectionist so i don't know how that's going to go for him what's his sign he's a taurus well interesting yeah a lot of taurus perfectionists not me i'm like the most opposite of perfectionist i like I like one and done. Whatever comes out, comes out. Like I hate when people are perfectionists. Oh, I got to do this. Oh, it's got to be this. And it's like, no, I'm done.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Just stop. Just stop everything. Like, yeah. He's interesting too because I consider myself somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to like work stuff or whatever. But for him, it's like he can't even like go to the gym if his hair is not done. And I'm like, I cannot live like that. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:12:02 Yeah. I respect people like that though. Like people who do want to always look so good. I'm like i do respect it could never could never be me either yeah never be mean he says if his content is about aesthetics then that's true good point he's a beauty guru he's a morning routine he says the the underclassmen or whatever they're called in college i don't know like the non-grad school people he has a reputation they all think he's stylish he says he said someone told him like one of his classmates told him that. Like, oh, all the undergrad people think that you're really stylish.
Starting point is 02:12:30 Now he's like really feeling it. Y'all be hyping him up a little too much. No, he is. He had cool – I remember exactly what he was wearing at the show. He had the white like fitted muscle tank and then he had the pink slacks with like white boots. And I did think that was a pretty slay outfit. Yeah. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 02:12:44 But he has the the tiny privilege though too so my damn he not this becoming like a relationship podcast but so i think you'll have a funny a similar reaction to me he was like we were walking by the mall in the mall and he was like randomly this was sparked by chloe kardashian's opening good american in the mall and he was like oh maybe they'll finally have my size he's like everyone wants to be like about size inclusivity but what about the small people I was like oh my god
Starting point is 02:13:11 he's like the bigger people always get the representation but what about I was like you need to walk that back oh my god did you tell him that too that is very Moses Coden he'll say things so I pocket and I'm like never about that though no not outside but some crazy stuff I'm like don't say that on the podcast did you tell him that too? That is very Moses Codd. He'll say things so out of pocket. What? Never about that though.
Starting point is 02:13:26 No, not outside, but some crazy stuff. I'm like, don't say that on the podcast. What are you talking about? because you're also like unaware of sometimes things. I'm like that,
Starting point is 02:13:34 no, that's not, I mean, you're very smart, but there are some things where I'm just like, no. I say it to rile her up
Starting point is 02:13:39 because I know. That's not true. No, there are so many times I point something out and you're like, okay, I didn't think about it like that.
Starting point is 02:13:44 Oh my God, it killed me because I think he, where were we? I didn't think about it like that oh my god it killed me because I think he where were we I think he was at Zara or something and couldn't find his size in pants or whatever
Starting point is 02:13:50 because he has his plight his plight his big struggle the cross that he carries is that his waist is too small that's wild
Starting point is 02:13:59 so what is he 30 I think he's a 28 maybe or like a 29 that is wild I just think every man is a 34 like everyone i met is a 34 and they're all like different sizes like how's everybody at 34 that is crazy but that's yes it is insane how like small he is but i'm like just shopping like the junior section then i guess but he refuses so that's wild yeah your section he's gonna wear an
Starting point is 02:14:21 iron man shirt or what well like in pants or whatever, you know, because he can't find his size in pants usually, but that is his plate. That's his TikTok. But it was so funny when he said that. It was like,
Starting point is 02:14:33 what about the size? What about those skinny people? He gets canceled in his first TikTok out. We apologize, but he's not coming. Yeah, yeah. Then you have to recreate
Starting point is 02:14:41 the thumbnail. That's so funny. Darian, we love you. I love that he's a Taurus. When's his birthday? April 23rd. Yeah. April 23rd.
Starting point is 02:14:51 It's four days before Jonathan Bailey's birthday. We love Taurus energy. I do love a good Taurus. That's for sure. I thought of you, actually, because there was a new documentary on Max about the Stauffers, the ones who adopted and then rehomed did you watch it um yes and it's three episodes only the first episode is out so far of the documentary you should tell me i would watch these things like whatever you watch i'll watch so i could
Starting point is 02:15:15 talk about it too i'm waiting the first one i watched it this morning actually because i read an article about it i was like let me see what they actually say so the first episode no one gets you hyped yet because i think eventually they interviewed the family that adopted their kid. But this first one is all very much the setup of like who they are, who the Stauffers are. who adopted a baby from China and then ended up rehoming, I guess is the right word, the child they adopted three years afterwards because he had developmental issues and they couldn't handle those. But they did know he had those when he was adopted. They specifically wanted that in a child.
Starting point is 02:16:05 They went – the adoption agency they went with, like that's the – what they say. Like they said when you adopt from here, like these children have different behavioral developmental needs. So they did go to this agency knowing that. There's like long-footed show of them being like we want this. Like we want to be able to take care of someone who has like special needs. They played clips. Because this is a whole era that I was so unfamiliar with. Like I remember hearing about like maybe the headline, but I didn't know them.
Starting point is 02:16:33 I didn't, I don't really watch like family vloggers at all either. So this whole genre is kind of like new to me. But yeah, they literally sit down in the vlog and they say, i think they went through like the checklist they said there there could be a hundred there was a hundred issues on the paperwork that they had to sign that they could say they could deal with these issues and me and my husband could deal with 99 of them so they were like very very confident going into this adoption that they could um fully aware yeah also i didn't know this too but they specifically went to China and the specific adoption agency because it was a faster turnaround because they wanted it quick. So she said, Micah said on the vlog, the whole thing is documented, which is nuts.
Starting point is 02:17:15 That's crazy. Yeah. The documentation of all of it. She says, like, you know, we went to different social workers and adoption agencies in America. And all of them had really long timelines. And they all said, if you want it done fast, then you should look at adoption agencies in China. So she specifically went to this one for it to be, like, quicker. Do they say why they wanted it quickly? No. She had a miscarriage, like, prior. And I think to – she was getting so much so much like they showed all these comments she was getting about like if you want more subscribers have more babies so they kind of have the
Starting point is 02:17:50 documentary obviously has some bias but that's kind of the angle of like the more children she has the bigger family gets the the more success she has in her channel so they kind of equate that um obviously they're not involved in this documentary. They did reach out, but they never heard back. Where are they? They just like left the internet? Yeah, so they kind of left the internet after this happened in, I believe, 2020 is when they made the announcement that their son was with a new family. And after that, Micah disappeared off social media and internet altogether but i believe her um husband james
Starting point is 02:18:25 has a car channel and that is still somewhat active like he still does he like fixes them up or something i mean like what all these family vloggers at that time like i was so unfamiliar too like they all turned out to be like actual like evil like devil like the ruby frank and like these people because it's one thing, you know, but like to adopt a child saying like you're ready, you know, they have all these like, you know, special care and special needs and stuff like that. And then to like send that one back, like they're going to have more issues because of that.
Starting point is 02:18:56 You know what I mean? Like it's like it's double evil to send that back because it's like they know you as their home and now they're getting taken away from their home. Like it's – and what was the child? Was he four or five? I think maybe he was three or four. Yeah. When he got rehomed.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Rehomed. Yeah. Because they were with him for three years. That's also a long time. That's such a long time because I get like not bonding right away or not figuring it out. But like three years you figure it out. You have a system.
Starting point is 02:19:24 You know what he needs and then you're just like okay too much we can't handle it yeah are they religious yeah because they again this is all like in the vlog the sit down she picked a name and everything for her son before she picked the baby and she sits down she's talking about how she goes through the profiles and she saw this one photo of a little boy and before even like looking for the like the details like the references and all the information about him just from like the profile photo she said she said she asked god to give her a sign that this is her son and then she clicked the profile and then she said the sign was in the profile from god so i think she is clearly like
Starting point is 02:20:05 religious which is like all the more like those are the people who like pray on it and pray for strength and like get them through and like help them raise this child like that's the wildest thing when you're so religious to be like okay let's hand this child back this child of god that you like prayed for and then all of a sudden you're just like i can't because like people who are religious and like i consider myself pretty religious whatever like but like you know like god gets you through everything. God can provide. He doesn't put you in circumstances you can't handle.
Starting point is 02:20:30 So it's just like, that's even more odd. It's like you got this sign from God. You saw it in his profile. And you're religious, right? So you're like, wow, I saw it. God sent me a sign. And you're just going to get that sign back? That's the most wild thing. That's why I think some of these people are just back crazy and use religion as their
Starting point is 02:20:44 little shield or whatever. but they're not actually because if you thought if you had a sign from god you saw him appear you wouldn't just like throw it away and it's odd too because again in the in the prior videos when she talks about like picking him out and stuff she um talked about how she knew about the um the issues that he had. And a doctor advised her and her husband that he had significant issues. And the direct quote was, but if anything, my child is not returnable. And that was in 2017, she said that,
Starting point is 02:21:14 like before the adoption was like finalized and stuff. So that quote kind of obviously led to haunt her. And I guess she did document like the struggles that she had like with Huxley. Um, and so I guess maybe, I don't know, like her, I guess her side of the situation, like there was blogs that she was writing about how like one was around mother's day. She said like, this is the hardest mother's day ever. Um, she kind of blogged a little bit about her issues raising him.
Starting point is 02:21:47 And she did talk about how she 100% or 500% feels like a failure of a mom. After she returned. Yes. Re-homed. Yeah. She has other kids, right? Yes. And she also said, too, that it wasn't just, like, her struggling.
Starting point is 02:22:00 Like, she didn't specify the incident, but she kind of insinuated that there were some incidents like the other kids in huxley um and she said we would never just give up a child with special needs this is a personal matter to hux it had nothing to do with just with he just had autism multiple scary things happen inside the home towards our other children and if these events happen with one of our biological kids after all the help and after the behaviors we witnessed sadly we would have no other choice than to seek help and get their needs met but i feel like they could have done that for him right like give him getting help somewhere rather than just like rehome him completely i know they made it seem like they did try like they did get um she said that she got medical training, but his new mom is like a medical professional.
Starting point is 02:22:49 So she said that they're better equipped to handle it. I think the moral of all this is like just you don't have to put everything on the internet. Like when it comes to like adoption and these young kids, like this is why you don't put them on the internet. Because now everyone is judging you. Everyone is like feeling bad for this kid. This kid already has issues that he didn't ask for because you're airing them all out. You know what I mean? It's just like already like just such a bad – it's like they're children.
Starting point is 02:23:10 And when children have problems, like it's like why are you airing that? Like I've seen so many people like talk about like, you know, their kids like, you know, not – what was the one? Someone's like their kid – they smelled poop and the kid had like poop all over his face. And I'm like why are you putting that like out on the internet? Like that's so like, he's a child. The kid fell asleep holding it. So the mom is like looking around the room. So basically she knows where it is.
Starting point is 02:23:33 It's like we smell it, but we don't know where it is. And then she zooms in and shows the kid sleeping. With poop on his face. Oh, she shows it? She shows the kid sleeping holding poop. It's so gross. Why does the kid need to have that forever as his you know online signature for forever no i know like there there has to be
Starting point is 02:23:51 some sort of like laws like i mean you should that's seems a little bit like child abuse a little bit to like show that you know it's almost like humiliation or something it's like they're a child i don't know it's very odd people are are one and this kind of feels the same way it's kind of like okay he has issues and they like maybe there was issues but it's like why are you airing that out for like everyone to know it was weird in general like again seeing this and the documentary has like specific clips again they're just clips so it's kind of out of context but like it has the whole like screenshot of like what the page looked like at the time and like you know they have like little hashtags under the channel that you can put like under the video her like the hashtag for the series was like
Starting point is 02:24:29 hashtag bring hucks home and it was like a whole series um like i think it was like chinese adoption series or whatever so like it was it's weird that it's content like from the jump like before you even pick out your kid because they show a lot of clips. The family seems sweet. Like, she seems like a sweet mom. At first, I kind of felt bad. Because I'm like, damn, she looks sweet. Like, well-intentioned, you know. But then all of a sudden, as her channel was growing, they talked about how she started making three more channels.
Starting point is 02:24:58 And then it was, like, more and more and more. My God. So it is very, very interesting. And it's kind of narrated by, there's like a viewer who was watching at the time. And she's kind of like giving the context as like someone who was a fan of the channel. And she also was adopted. So she kind of liked that perspective when it was happening. Like, oh, it's kind of like if my mom adopted me, you know?
Starting point is 02:25:18 Right. Kind of showing – which is like great. But then when it goes wrong, don't throw the kid under the bus. That's like so narcissistic to be like, no one needs needs to know that she's like just trying to save her reputation being like well the reason we gave away is because he was like there was stuff with our other kids that he was doing it's like geez yeah she said that in a comment after like people were like leaving negative comments oh my gosh yeah um and too like they posted that update about like rehoming huxley because all her fans were like why why haven't you shown – where is Huxley?
Starting point is 02:25:45 Why haven't you shown him? Oh, actually, he's not here anymore. Yeah. I mean, again, you don't have to answer every comment. You don't have to fill everybody in on everything. It's like the Nikki Philippi too. When she found out she couldn't vlog her adoption – or she couldn't vlog, what was it, the kid for the first year that she adopted from somewhere.
Starting point is 02:26:01 Oh, yes. I forgot. So we decided not to. I was like, that's crazy. They should make it a rule like 10 years before you can show your adopted kid. You know what I mean? And she was like mad after one. I'm like, you're wild.
Starting point is 02:26:10 You wanted a kid literally for content. That's wild. That's crazy. Like, if they pass a law tomorrow, I was like, you can never show your kid on social media until they're 18. It's like, you would abide by that. You wouldn't just be like, actually, I don't want a kid. Like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:26:22 It's so weird. Yeah, that's a good point. These people are wild. And like you said, they're just like normal. They look kind of normal like that's crazy yeah that's a good point these people were wild and like you said they're just like normal they look kind of normal you know even that ruby frankie i mean obviously i didn't watch her vlogs but like seeing the vlog she was not normal but you just kind of look like you know they're just like normal people at least like the frankies there was weird moments in the vlogs that people were like this is weird why is your kid sleeping on a beanbag you know right like with the stuffers they just presented as far as I know from like
Starting point is 02:26:45 the clips that were in this docuseries I guess like they were just like so all American like they're both attractive attractive like cute kids you know she was very open about um her miscarriage too so people could like relate to it there was so much investment and then obviously like an adoption journey too I feel like it's something that's unique you know and it's also like admirable oh you're saving a kid basically you know inspiring yeah so i get why people would be invested like it does kind of feel good i guess but i think maybe it's hard because i have the context of what happens to huxley so watching these clips i like feel ominous but maybe if it had a happy ending i would i don't know
Starting point is 02:27:25 feel different watching it like in the moment and you're just like yeah because watching it now i'm like oh this is really creepy you see it after yeah you always see after and you're just like oh that was like science but even like the ruby frank i mean when people were watching those vlogs and did people say nothing at the time when she said like oh my daughter forgot her lunch i hope no one gives her food because she needs to learn her lesson i was like there's like a six-year-old daughter who forgot to pack her lunch i'm'm like, was no one saying anything? Like are these kids okay? I think if I remember correctly, some people were – like they did have like people who
Starting point is 02:27:50 were watching that didn't. But there were some that like would even like call child services and stuff too because I remember like once the kids were able to like break free and get out, like there's some people like, yeah, I've been trying to get child services to look into this for years and stuff. So big yikes. I think family vloggers just need to take a little break. I mean I guess it's good.
Starting point is 02:28:11 But I don't know. There's something kind of weird about it. Just like – Yeah, even like Ryan's World because they showed clips from Ryan's World in this docuseries too. Again, I've never seen it. But they showed like the beginning of Ryan's World before it was a huge production. Yeah. And there was one clip where like Ryan is sleeping in like his race car bed and then they like film him they go wake him
Starting point is 02:28:28 up and film him waking up and I'm like that seems kind of weird to like go wake up your kid and film it as a video a lot that's a lot yeah and obviously he's okay as far as we know you know very successful but like it is kind of odd yeah it's it's a it's an interesting thing yeah i don't know my malbu loves to watch like kids play with toys like on youtube she'll like watch like little like kids just playing with frozen toys and they get like they get my nephew too 50 million 100 millions of views on these videos i mean that is pretty cool and like i guess it's like a cool job for those kids they just get to play with toys and stuff and the kids love it but because it is it does look fun I'm like oh the street like love to
Starting point is 02:29:07 make those videos but there's kind of something weird about it I guess I don't know maybe not I'm so torn with it obviously we want to do like a full they have full production for these kids but it's it's interesting they just play with these toys yeah I know same I kind of struggle with obviously I'm not a parent yet so I feel like once I have kids I feel like I'll be able to have a more strong opinion about it i think it was just weird i think like a kid being vulnerable and then filming that like raw or whatever that kind of makes me more uncomfortable versus like you know kids like presenting or like being silly and cute or whatever because i'm not like anti-showing my kid because it's like it was your kid like
Starting point is 02:29:40 it's just a happy moment yes you know yeah and i don't know. I feel like that's more wholesome. But I think disturbing a kid or, I don't know, when the kid is not aware, that just felt weird to me. I think there's obviously Ryan's world now. It's more production. Yeah. But it was like an eight-year-old video where he just gets waken up and you're filming him right away. Yeah, that's kind of weird to wake him up. It's like Melba was very much like if she wants to film she will like have the camera and stuff like that but like even if i'm filming and i'm not even filming her
Starting point is 02:30:09 so a lot of times she's like no no no no and you know like i just like you know so like she just like knows but yeah a lot of times she like sets it up she just plays even if we're not recording she just like her favorite thing is the snapchat filters obviously we don't post her snapchats but like in at the restaurant she loves to go through the filters. Like the look at herself. Oh my. And it's so funny to see her. She calls it funny faces. Yeah. She like. So we just sit and do different filters. She loves it. And she's like, and she's so interested in it because like, where is it?
Starting point is 02:30:32 Like, is it on my head? Oh, that's cute. Like, you know, there'll be a cat on her shoulder. So she's trying to figure it out. She laughs and then she like will eat her French fries with her Snapchat filter on. And it's very, it's very cute. It's very funny how it is. It is such a different generation because even Elvis, like they see these phones, right?
Starting point is 02:30:46 And they think it's like, that's the thing you need to get. Like Elvis like lunges for a phone. And maybe we really love phones too. It's just funny because we didn't grow up with like our parents on cell phones. So they probably think like, what is this device? Why is everybody like holding it? When I was a kid, any screen would be magical to me. I remember like even in high school, a friend just had a small TV.
Starting point is 02:31:04 It was like this portable TV and I was just like this is the most magical thing in the world yeah I remember like portable DVD players like when those were new in the car but even like think about like FaceTime like she's always like now she gets it
Starting point is 02:31:18 but just like in shock to see like you know grandma and grandpa on like FaceTime she's like oh my gosh you know she gets like so excited it's such a weird it's such different with technology growing up with it. But because they sell like played toy phones for like literally six month old babies, you know, and they're just like these little iPhones that they play with. It's just so, so funny. I mean, they're not like screens, but they're just look like an iPhone and they love it. The iPhone world. What is it? Generation, oh, generation alpha. I think it's over now. I think
Starting point is 02:31:43 it's now generation Beta for 2025. We're in a new generation. That's crazy. So we're the millennials. We're like the equivalent of the boomers. I know. Everyone keeps making like, oh, millennial jokes or whatever. Oh, you're so millennial.
Starting point is 02:31:54 I was like, oh, my God. We kind of are. We are fully. Gabby was the ultimate millennial in that reaction video on Patreon. She was so good. I loved it. Should we try these just to end this? Oh, yeah. That's a good idea.
Starting point is 02:32:06 Okay. Oh, it's funny. It says no nasty artificial colors or flavors. All right. They're calling us nasty here. I don't know if you like these. Do you want to try one, babe? They're kind of yogurt.
Starting point is 02:32:13 I love gummies. They smell good. She said these are like the thing, the Percy Pigs. She said it tastes like yogurt or something. No, I think, I mean, I i had it i get it to the world at the world market oh little piece oh my god shane dawson is quaking right now he's like that's my brand that's my brand oh he's like laffy taffy. I like it. What do you think?
Starting point is 02:32:47 Oh my god. I don't even know how to read this. What is this on the back? There's one that looks like bunnies. I like it better. That looks like bunnies. What is it? I don't even know. Is this a foreign language or am I just like what?
Starting point is 02:32:56 Where? What is this? Like surveys, values, moines, energy. The facts. It doesn't say like calories. Maybe they have a good fudge too. Oh, you're right. Right?
Starting point is 02:33:08 But even the English stuff, it's like, what does that mean? Typical values. What is that? It's pretty good though. I like them. I like it because I don't like super sweet things. It's not super sweet. None of their candy is.
Starting point is 02:33:23 Their Skittles were also like that. I guess they just are healthy over there. There wasn't a lot of fat British people. I was going to say, are people skinnier over there? They're skinny, but they did tell me there were some fatties
Starting point is 02:33:34 if you go to the country. Oh my God. Like, go north. I was like, all right. They're like, yeah, we're not. But up north, they're fat. I was like, all right. They banished them to another.
Starting point is 02:33:44 Yeah, literally. I was like, all right. Okay. That's pretty good, though. Mm-hmm. Yeah, thank're not. But up north, they're fat. I was like, all right. They banish them to another. Yeah, literally. I was like, all right. Okay. That's pretty good, though. Mm-hmm. Yeah, thank you so much. It was so good. I loved her.
Starting point is 02:33:51 She made me feel secure. You guys, I love you. Guess what? There is a new year coming up. When does it start? Year of the Snake. Is it January? So don't worry.
Starting point is 02:34:04 We get a reset. If 2025 hasn't been working for you, there's a Chinese New Year coming up. The 29th. 29th. It's upon us, and we are going to have a better year. So just think of this as like a little trial run for the end of the year. Year of the Snake comes. I believe in the Chinese New Year the most.
Starting point is 02:34:20 Good luck. Wear red. Find a snake. Actually, snakes were a big part of um blink don't what is blink twice yeah there was um the snake venom is what makes them remember so if they got bit by a snake they remembered plot twist kyle mcclaughlin is in that movie he is in every movie and it's a weird movie and i'm like what is he doing in here and he has such a weird movie. And I'm like, what is he doing in here? And he has such a weird small part. I love him. I need him on the podcast.
Starting point is 02:34:47 Anyways, alright. That's it. Love you guys. Timothy Chalamet, a complete unknown, is out now. That's all we talked about yesterday on Not Love Live. Moses took his headphones off. He's like, I'm done. Okay.
Starting point is 02:35:03 Bye. I'm getting you ready for the next one. Name one Bob Dylan song and then we'll wrap it up. Do what? Name one Bob Dylan song. Sing one Bob Dylan song. Hey, Mr. Tambourine. Is that Bob Dylan? Yellow Submarine?
Starting point is 02:35:18 No, no. Tambourine. Oh, Tambourine. Hey, Mr. Tambourine. Is that him? I thought it was like Tiny Tim. Play a song for me for the sinners Is that Bob Dylan?
Starting point is 02:35:29 Really? Okay that's the only one I know I don't think I know any other one I don't know a single one You probably do if you hear them Maybe Do you know another one? No that's him
Starting point is 02:35:40 Isn't that crazy? Blow it in the wind Did they cover that on Glee? Definitely Chris Christopherson I thought did that song Or no, that's him. Isn't that crazy? Oh, Blow It In The Wind. Did they cover that on Glee? Definitely. Chris Christopherson, I thought, did that song. The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind. Make You Feel My Love. Is that Bob Dylan?
Starting point is 02:35:55 How's that? Are you just looking up songs? I'm looking up Bob Dylan Glee. Bob Dylan Glee. I'm dead. I wouldn't know a Bob Dylan song if it was on Glee. They did cover Make You Feel My Love. So I do know that one. Oh, that was for Cory Monteith. I will know about Dylan's song if it was on Glee. They did cover Mickey through my love.
Starting point is 02:36:06 So I do know that one. Oh, that was for Cory Monteith. I definitely know that. Forever Young? That seems like not him. Forever young. That's like 80s, I feel. Do you really want to live forever?
Starting point is 02:36:22 That's a good song. Who sings that? That's a great song. No, it is Bob Dylan. He sings Forever Young. dylan he sings forever young no not that version definitely not that version right you know it's like bruce brinkstein or not that but it's like someone from the 80s with that voice forever young yeah i think it was like a one hit wonder okay well riveting i woke up at literally four o'clock this morning and I was just like answering emails on my phone. I am a little jet lag.
Starting point is 02:36:46 I'm not going to lie. I'm a little jet lag. I'm just like hungry at weird times. I was only there for like three days and like my whole body got messed up. Anyways. That's our outro, everybody. That's our outro.
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