Just Trish - The Lizzo Episode

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

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and really acted how we really acted, y'all would be so offended. Ariel would want to give everything away to be with me. She'd be like, you know what? I don't need a voice. Fuck! I only wanted dominoes because of you. Oh my God!

How the rainforest cafes are getting, are being shut down, but I was like, what about the rainforest? It's like, do you know what I mean? Like what is happening there? They're trying to get rid of rainforest cafes so that we can forget the rainforest existed cause they're destroying it! Her name is Trish, she's got the mission, all the gossips, filthy rich, pretty and big,

hot topic, queen and says what everybody thinks she's just. Yay! Okay, welcome back to the Just Trish Podcast. Yes. Yeah. Okay, welcome back to the Just Gush podcast. Today's guest really needs no introduction. Businesswoman, four time Grammy award winner, but also TikTok superstar, and also like twinning today. The one and only, Lizza. Hi, twinny.

I'm so shook by everything right now. Twinnifer Aniston. I love that. The minute I saw you, I was like, oh my god. Like I always thought we were twinning, but then I saw you and I was like, hoo. It was like looking in a mirror. I wish.

You look like an actual Barbie doll. Thank you. Like it's crazy. Like you see you online and you look great, but like you are literally like flawless. I look better in person. That's what people don't realize. And I look really good online. Yes, but that's a good thing,

because sometimes you see people in person and you're like, ooh, you know what I mean? But you look like, who knows? I can't relate. Same. Whatever do you mean? No, you look beautiful too. Thanks, I love our matching, we're in our yitty.

Thank you for the chain by the way too. Oh of course, that's 250k so. Oh my gosh. Don't spend it all in one place. Is it actually? No. Oh my gosh, I was like take it back, because me I don't know what to do

with something that expensive on my neck. Yours is amazing, yours is great. Yeah this was a gift, I would never splurge this much on something, but I'm so grateful for it. I wear her every day. Do you not splurge, are you not a splender? I'm not a splurger, I don't know, because you know I'm a grateful for it. I wear her every day. Do you not splurge or you not a splender? I'm not a splurger. I don't know, cause you know I'm a tourist,

so we like expensive things, but I splurge on like food, experiences, I like a vacation, but like I don't just shop till I drop every day. You have the vintage Louis. Baby! Yeah, and the LabouBou, this is Louis as well. His name is Louis Murakami.

Oh my God, I love that. This was also a gift. Oh, so you're gifted all these things. Yeah, from people who care about me, not just like, you know, the gifted gift, the celebrity gifted. This is like from my sister's best friend gifted me this.

Oh my gosh. And why is it after the designer? Yeah, because this was the first bag I decided to put him on, so it just kinda clicked. Matching. Yeah, and he's Japanese. Oh, we love that Yeah, you've been to Japan. Oh my god. That's where I got this from Really? Was it a vintage store? It was a vintage store. I love it.

Vintage store. I want everybody go to and I picked this up. Oh my god. I love it. You know, I had to have her It is especially when it came out. I remember that bag when Paris and Kim carried it I wanted it so bad, but couldn't afford it And now that we can Run me back everything from 2003. I don't give a fuck. That's how I feel too. I don't want nothing new, ho. Give me my childhood.

The Y2K is coming back too. Yeah. Even if it wasn't, I don't give a fuck. I'm all Y2K. This is what I wanted back then. This is who I am. Yeah. This is what I live for.

I wanna get to that. There's so many questions I want to ask you, but because there is the whole acting thing I want to get into. But before you do, you said you also support John Food, which is crazy because today we're like, let's eat. And I was like, okay, what are we eating? You're like, Domino's. And I was like, I love Domino's, but also no one wants Domino's pizza ever. Everyone's just like, no, let's get like Joe's or something.

And you're like, Domino's. So like- Joe's what? Pizza is like the big thing right now. Who was Joe? Joe's Pizza. The New or something. And you're like, Domino's. So like, you can't. Joe's what? Pizza is like the big thing right now. Who's Joe? Joe's Pizza. The New York one is here in LA now, I think. OK.

Yeah, you're not about it, which I love. So that's why it's like, if you splurge on food, Domino's is like so cheap. So I was like, what is the splurge that you would do? Like, what is it? What is the splurge I do? I guess it's like when I go to a restaurant, I will order everything on the menu.

You know what I mean? And I'll be like, oh, a little bit of this, a little bit of that for the table. Pancakes for the table every single time. That's just the kind of girl I am. When I say I splurge on food, that's what I mean. But is it like a Denny's pancake or a Beverly Hills Hotel pancakes?

It's a Beverly Hills Hotel. Okay, so that's the splurge. It's a Golden Diner in New York. Okay, that is splurge. We're doing Cheesecake Factory, which I love to splurge, but I love a splurge. It's a golden diner in New York. Okay, that is splurge. We're doing Cheesecake Factory, which you know, I love to splurge, but I love a cheap one. I just got the Cheesecake Factory chocolate cake

because I've been seeing it on TikTok and I hadn't tried it and I heard it was trash, no shade. I heard it was trash and then I ordered it and it was delicious. Yeah, I've had it. I've had the chocolate cake from there. It's really good. Yeah, and I started my period at the same time.

I f***ed that shit up last night. In the bed, watching Love Island, f at the same time. I That shit up in the bed watching Love Island That was my Friday night Wonder because you are like such a superstar like even you coming in here being so sweet and humble I was like this is so crazy because you are so mega famous I guess telling you before this like I didn't even know this could be a possibility you coming on the podcast I was so you before this, I didn't even know this could be a possibility, you coming on the podcast, I was so shook about it, I was so nervous, but you come in and you're so real and chill and I was like, what is her day-to-day life?

Because on TikTok you're posting, you're in your little bikinis and stuff posting. Clamped out. Yeah. I'm so unaware of my fame, people have to remind me. I don't get reminded of my fame until I'm out and then they're like, Lizzo, Lizzo, Lizzo. I'm like, oh yeah, I am a little bit like, known.

Yes, because I'm at home all the time and I'm surrounded by people who don't give a f***. Right, right, right. They're like, yeah, f*** good morning. Out of my face. So I'm not like, you know who I am. Like, I'm not that girl. Yeah, so when you step out, are you just like,

oh, you're always shook a little. A little, and people have to remind me. Like, people will stare at me and I'm like, what the f*** are they looking at? I'm like, is it because I'm black? What the f*** are you looking at? Like, I get real, and they just like, oh, you're always shook a little. A little. And people have to remind me, like, people will stare at me and I'm like, what the fuck are they looking at? I'm like, is it because I'm black? What the fuck are you looking at? Like, I get real. And they're like, it's because you're Lizzo.

And I'm like, oh, let me calm down. Ah! I get so, like, hostile because it's an uncomfortable thing, too. Like, you know, being stared at and being pointed at and being whispered at, especially as a fat girl, like, I was like, are you talking about me? Are you making fun of me?

Because that was my, when I was in middle school, in high school, if somebody was whispering and pointing and smiling, they were making fun of me. So I still have that, that doesn't go away. You know what I mean? Oh, we live next to a high school, and whenever I'm in Target, there's always high school kids taking pictures of me, and I always don't know

if they're doing it because they know who I am, or they're just being high school boys, and it triggers me, I'm 37, and I always don't know if they're like doing it because they like know who I am or they're just being high school boys. And it triggers me. I'm 37 and I'm just like, oh my God. They're like, and I want to like punch them in the face because I'm like, what the hell? Like you don't know. I got the high school boys scare me because like to this day, like can I get

a picture with you and I'll be like, what are you going to do with it? Like what's the caption going to say? Like yes, this fat cha-ha. Like, I don't know. Like am I being trolled I yeah it's the high school boys I tell you that's happened in real life like out of a car they're like roll your wood no down really and I did and they're literally high school kids and like you fat like and I was just like and I called

Moses I'm like I'm gonna follow them home like that's crazy because they were like young punks and I was like no yeah so it does happen. I mean, it's happened one time, but like, it's a real fear. My nail popped off. You need something? You want some glue? My nail tech is in Japan, so I got tape on. If you need tape, we have some if you need them. No, we're okay for now.

Until we start eating and I eat one of them off. Yeah, that happens. That would be happening too. So now, okay, not to like get fully into it, because you talk about in every single interview, but you talk about your weight release. And do you still have those feelings of like you said, like if someone like points at you or something, you still think, is it because I'm bigger?

Yeah, because I'm still in a bigger body. I'm just not as big as I was. So like, I don't know, girl. No, okay. You say that, but I'm also like, I looked at you and I was like, oh my God, actually you're so tiny. I wasn't expecting. I watched when you did the podcast too, and you're like, well, at you just like, oh my God, actually, you're so tiny. I wasn't expecting. I watched when you did the podcast too and you're like, well, she's skinny now.

So you are skinny. I feel like we're the same size. No, no, no. I'm about 270. I'm pushing 270. Am I crazy? I'm short. I'm five foot three.

Yeah. I'm crazy. Yeah, you are. I'm a little dysmorphic. I've always had dysmorphia on both ends. When I was at my heaviest, I was skinny. Oh, I feel that way too. And when I was at my heaviest, I was like skinny bitch. Oh, I feel that way too.

And now I feel like we're the same size. That's crazy. Yeah, you have dysmorphia for sure. Cause I saw you and I was just like, holy shit. Wait, what? Yeah, cause you never know on TikTok. I mean, you look so tiny, but I also look tiny on TikTok cause I gotta make it my angles.

But then you see yourself and you're just like, oh shit. Like you're actually so little. I will process that later tonight. But I feel like I'm still in a bigger body comparatively. I see what you're saying, yeah. But I'm also in a smaller body comparatively. So I'm in a really weird spot. Yeah.

I don't really know how to function. I can't even imagine. I've never lost a significant amount of weight, so I just, the psych. Really? Yeah, like how does it feel? Does it feel great or does it feel like, wait, why is everyone telling me I look good now? Like, I don't know, I don't know what the feeling is.

Explain it. That's why I was so excited to meet you too, because I was like, I need to know. I am, that's such a great question. I feel like I worked really, really hard and it was intentional with what I did with my body. So when I get compliments, I'm like, thanks, I really receive it because I need to receive that.

I don't take it any weird way because I tried to do this. I know that there are people who unintentionally like lose a lot of weight because they've been depressed or maybe they've been sick, you know what I mean? And then everyone starts complimenting them and they're like, well, you don't know how I got here. Like that, I can understand how that can be a little toxic and a little fucked up for the head.

But for me, I worked so hard for it. And the people who compliment me see me working hard for it. They see me in my calorie delificulate and they've seen me exercising every day and walking and doing this. So when they say, I've seen the hard work you put in, I'm really proud of you, yes.

The internet, all of a sudden, like, respecting my music, because I'm smaller. I'm like, wait a minute, I've seen some weird comments on the internet now. It's like, oh, now you hear me, now you see me, because I'm smaller, and that's a little weird, but it comes with it. But do you love it, or is it just like,

because to me, I'd be like, the only reason I wanna lose weight is it just like, cause to me I'd be like, the only reason I wanna lose weight is for that reason, cause everyone's so fatphobic right? And like watch me get skinny and then all of a sudden everything opens up. But then I've heard people who've lost a bunch of weight and it like isn't how it felt for them. They're just like, this is like doesn't feel good

that all of a sudden it's that. Or are you like finally? No, I made a weight for myself at any weight. So at my heaviest, I was walking the McGalla carpet and like stomping that and you know, Anna's guest. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't think like being smaller or bigger has opened or closed any doors for me.

I do believe I look good as so I don't think people are lying to me. I really do look good. Everything in my life kind of elevated, no shade. What do you, yeah. I mean, it wasn't just releasing the weight. It was just where I was at in my life, my team. I just do feel like I am the baddest. No matter what size, at this point in my life,

I am on another level. Yeah, it has elevated you. It's the blonde. Yeah. You know what I mean? I do love your blonde era, yeah. It's the new yitty. It's a lot.

It's the skincare routine that I really started maybe two years ago when I was also doing my weight release. It's the Invisalign. I'm just really that right now. Yeah, it's just the glow up. And you can't take it from me. And that is so true, especially because we are literally weeks apart, actual, like Taurus is 88, weeks apart.

And I was just thinking that, I hit my stride too, in the late 30s, it got really good, like 35. It was like, oh, now it's time, because you're not competing with anyone, you're not competing with yourself. And it feels so good. I am so happy in life, and I'm like, God, I do wanna lose weight, but I'm like,

I think the only way I could do it, and I know it must suck for you, because you did it the easy way, or the hard way, I'm sorry, like hard work, not sorry, easy way. But everyone's doing a Zempic, which I don't think is, by the way, easy. It sounds like protein.

It's not easy. It's not easy. I don't think it's easy for, somebody, Somebody, well, actually I'm not gonna say that because I'll get canceled, but I did see somebody be like, it's a drug to help somebody with something they're struggling with. I think people, it's their way of being fat phobic

when you're telling someone they're cheating. They tell them they're cheating from getting weight loss surgery. I'm like, I've heard about that weight loss surgery. That sounds very hard, actually. A lot of people feel like they almost died on the table, and they got so sick after getting the weight loss surgery. That's just not easy.

You know what I'm saying? I just feel like people just like to make fun of fat people, whether you're big or small, and got small. They like to make fun of us. That's the thing, right? It's like then you lose the weight and you're still criticized. Yeah, so I think the only way I could do it is Ozempic. But then I'm like, who knows?

Maybe it wouldn't even work for me. I don't know. Have you tried Ozempic? No, I've been pregnant for the past three years, but I'm done after this. I've tried everything. It's just the science for me, calories in versus calories out.

Ozempic works because you eat less food. Yeah, it makes you full. Right, it makes you feel full. So if you can just do that on your own and get mind over matter, it's the same. That part's hard though. Is that when you started your spiritual meditation where you're doing this at the beginning?

Because how do you get there? Because I can't, I'm hungry all the time and I want to eat all the time. Like mentally. Hmm. I think, well, what did it for me is, oh, this is, well, actually it was not being vegan. OK.

You think, yeah, you think controversial to say that. Yeah, because when I was vegan, I was consuming a lot of fake meats. I was eating a lot of bread. I was eating a lot of rice.. I was eating a lot of bread. I was eating a lot of rice and I had to eat a lot of it to stay full. But really I was consuming like 3000 to 5000 calories a day. Which I know like the calorie thing,

oh my God, I'm getting so much backlash from this. The calorie thing is like, oh, don't talk about calories. We shouldn't be counting calories. However, we live in a society that makes super calorically dense food, and they hide it. Like, so you're eating something that's small, and you think, oh yeah, this is like

a little healthy little protein bar. It'll be like 300 calories, and filled with all this like fake sugar and weird shit that fucks you up on the inside, that you're not even aware of, then you still be hungry. So for me, when I started actually eating whole foods and eating like beef and chicken and fish,

like I was actually full and not expanding my stomach by putting a lot of like fake things in there that wasn't actually filling me up. Interesting. So when you went to meet, how long were you vegan for? Whew. I have been in a plant-based lifestyle. It was a long time. I think I started around the time my dad passed away,

so I think like 20. Oh wow. I think I was like plant-based for like 10 years. And then like really vegan for like, from like 2020 to 2023. Wow, so when you say plant-based, you're also not eating meat during that time. It was like maybe eggs or, you know, it was vegetarian at that time.

So then going to like ground beef, you're not just like, is it, was it a shock where you're just like, uh, what the, no, you're like, okay, this is it. This feels good. Baby! But I introduced it in Japan. So when I was in Japan for the first time, because I heard the Japanese diet

is like the healthiest diet in the world. So I was there and I was like, I'm gonna try the food here, and my body was so happy. Really? My body was like, more, more please. And I was like, okay, this is what my body likes. But that's what I always try to stress, and I don't like to tell people too much

about releasing weight, like what I did. Because I don't want people to do what I did and it doesn't work for them. Everybody's body's different. So I don't know if like GOP1 might be the only thing that works for you, because I don't know what your blood work is like. I don't know how your body breaks down.

Food, sugar, I don't know. But I know for me, I just had to start eating meat again. And you eat meat. Interesting. I do, but I do love the pasta and the rice too. That's like where I'm at. Baby! I know.

Do you have any tips for that? Is there any hacks for pasta? Wait, so you actually want to be smaller? I think always. I'm very happy in life and I do love the way I look. I'm very much like you. I do love the way I look, but everyone is getting thin now.

And I'm like, maybe it's just like my time just to see how the reactions would be, honestly. Wow. I don't know, yeah, but. Wait, but like, don't do it because everyone's getting thin now. That's how I feel, because I'm just like, well, everyone's getting such a reaction,

and I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just, it's so, and then yes, of course being bigger, you know, it's just like, you know, obviously, it would feel better to be more comfortable, and I could just bigger, you know, it's just like, you know, obviously it would feel better to be more comfortable and I could just like, you know, slide things, I don't know. Man, my body was hurting. Like my back was in such a bad place

where I couldn't stand for more than like 15 minutes at a time. I had to sit down and do like figure fours and stretch my back out during dance rehearsal for tour. And I was like, in between like songs and stuff when I would go back to the quick change, I would have to sit and like and stretch my back out. And then immediately after the shows

I would have to cold plunge because my back was just radiating so much pain and it was from the discs being compressed in my back. And the only way to really do that, to alleviate that is surgery or releasing a little bit of weight. So I was like, I wanna be Tina Turner. I wanna be doing stadium shows when I'm 70.

If my back is on this track right now, there's no way I'm gonna be able to do that without serious surgery. So that was my decision, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's where I'm at. And again, I think it's like maybe when you hit in you know in your 30s you just your body's so different you know in our 20s so that's how I feel too I do feel like very achy and stuff so I'm like maybe it is just or the knees. Baby in my younger days I could twerk and heal with this

much ankle and this much knee because you know I got little ankles and little wrists and stuff and up in a big you do a little worse I'm very rigorous my wrists are huge and I was out there just busting it down like I haven't worked like I used to I can't do the up and down because you did you really did I mean I was a throw queen yeah that's what was so inspiring about you like being at the Met Gala and stuff cuz like I was like I really don't think they invite big people there and no I was like when I saw you there I was like if you ask Chadgy BT I'm the first plus-size black woman ever on the carpet at the Met Gala I mean probably the only one ever right I don't think any other plus have the plus size. I've never seen any. There's a few girls, Precious Lee.

Okay. Ashley Graham, plus size, but not black. Right, right, right. Paloma. Okay. Yeah, there's a few girls now, but if you ask Chatchie, you can see who the first was, honey.

I remember being so shook, because I was especially vogue and stuff like that. I was just like, which is inspiring, because it's like, as a, as like a bigger girl, you're just like, well, there's not a lot for us out there. Also the Hustlers movie, I remember seeing you in there. I was like, that was like, that's like my dream role. Like, I love it.

No, like every role you had, I was like, oh my God, that's like a dream role, so good. How did you like, how did you, like, are you, how did you get into acting all of a sudden? Like, okay, you're like a singer, you win all these Grammys and then all of a sudden like you're an actress, like win all these Grammys, and then all of a sudden you're an actress, you're in all these movies.

You know what happens? I think my online persona or personality, I'm not gonna call it persona, what? I think my online presence is the best word. Connected with a lot of casting directors and writers and directors, because that's how I got most of my early roles. I wasn't going out for movies and stuff.

Like they would come to me and be like, hey, we wrote this part for you. Stop it. Hustlers are like, here have this role. Yes. And I was like, okay. I was like, I play a stripper all day, baby. You don't know me back in the day in Houston.

That was almost my ministry. Did you ever do it and realize? No. Oh, you would have been so, because watching you in that, you had the hot pink outfit. I was like, period. That's how I am. I would have been so good. Oh had the hot pink outfit. I was like, period. That's what I am.

I would have been so good. Oh my god. But you worked it. You danced in the movie. So they teach you or you just be like. No, I just, I'm from Houston. Right. You and Anna Nicole.

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Yeah, so that's what it was giving when I was watching it. I was like, wait, this is like giving Anna Nicole realness with the pink and the stripper. Oh my God. Yeah. I saw somebody say they were giving Anna Nicole a pre-hydroxy cut,

and I just thought that was. Wait, who was saying that about who, you? No, no. Oh! Who said what about that, I love it. Nobody says it about me, they said they were giving that and I just thought that was so iconic. I did love her trim spot back in the day,

do you remember those commercials where she lost, you don't remember the trim spot where she lost like 60 pounds and she'd be like, trim spot baby, like my body. She wasn't on no trim spot. What do you think she did? I think she just was living. She was just, she was sliving. No, you know what I mean?

Love was living. I just found out was living met at Pride. I saw Paris for the first time, yeah. That's your first time seeing Paris? Yes. She's an icon. I would have thought that y'all was, cause you, have you been to her house?

No, no. Why would I be at Paris Living's no like y'all have the same like the bling yeah I do love I do love a Paris moment but I can't like photos like well just down here we have photos of me upstairs it's normal. No there was one in your bathroom too. Okay. In the studio area. I have photos I have a bust of me that an artist made of my head in my house. That's so cool. How big is it? It's very f***ing big. Like you would have thought I was like a US president. Oh I love that. How did you get it? They just gave it to you?

Um, they're artists and I commissioned them. Oh you had it made. I love it. I do that all the time too. Well I was gonna get a bust because that's what they do. Yeah. And I was like, oh that's cute. And I was like, damn, but like what if it was me though? So I'm just like, y'all, I love myself. Yeah, but that's like, you kind of have to, right? Cause the world is like so hard

and like think about how much like we love ourselves. But it's like so many people just telling us like, especially like, you probably know like, you were so long, like a butt of so many jokes. And it's like, how does that like, you know, not affect you? Cause you're so like like I think cuz you're so out there Like most McCarthy, right? She doesn't get the fat jokes, right? She wasn't getting like South Park or something like that

Right, but I think cuz you're like so sexual and you show your body and that's how I am too people like hate to see that Yes, they hate to see a fat girl loving herself. Yeah. Oh God is triggering And so that's why I kept doing it. I like pissing people off. And you're like, I look good. That's how I feel too. And it's just like one of those things like everyone will drag you down. So you have to love yourself so much more.

You know what I mean? Than like anything, but it's crazy. You have to aggressively love yourself. And I feel like there's been a lot of like discourse where there's been like anti self-love rhetoric in the world where they're just like, you know, I don't like being told that I have to love myself. And I'm like, that's fine.

Cause a lot of times this message isn't for you. A lot of times this message is for the girls who were told by society that they should not exist. And that they should, and if they do exist, they should hate themselves. Like especially the girls with the smaller bodies who are like what if I don't want to love myself I'm like that's fine because the world will tell you that you're beautiful the world doesn't tell us that we're beautiful we

need aggressive self-love we need radical self-love because we're not getting it anywhere else honey if you want to hate yourself sometimes go for it honey ain't nobody forcing you to love yourself but baby when I wake up in the morning and I see the whole world telling me that I should die, I have to tell myself to live. So if that offends you, look the other way. That is such a good point you made, because that is so true.

It's like sometimes even me, right, being older, sometimes I just need to hear it, because it's just like the struggle is so real. When you first came out, I remember being so jealous, and so, because I was like, wait, there's only room for one, you took the spot of the one pretty big girl, and I can never be that, even though obviously I can't sing like you

or dance like you, but in my head, I'm thinking, oh, this is like, you filled the quota, you know what I mean? Rather than being like, oh, you're opening it up for so many people. Like Ashley Graham was just on Broadway as Roxy Hart, which was so cool, because there's never been plus size. So I feel like, yeah, you're told so much.

But that's how I felt about Ashley Graham. I didn't feel negatively about her, but once I saw her start, I remember she was like a f***ing, not torrid, what's the other? Lane Bryant. Lane Bryant model, wasn't she? And I remember, was it Lane Bryant? Maybe, yeah, so she did like Sports Illustrated,

she did like a lot of- But for all of that, it was like Lane Bryant, and I would be like, oh my gosh, she's so beautiful, like who is she? And then she just started getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and then I saw her like do Sports Illustrated, I saw her like host Miss Universe backstage, and I was like let her on the stage let her run from

A year later all about it. Oh, I was all about it cuz I was like if she can do it I can do it That's such a better mindset mine was just like man Liz that because also people were calling me Liz and I just I didn't have the talent as like there's just no way I can Ever be in this world Cosplaying you here's pizza coming in. Yes, we don't have to eat it now, but we can whenever we want. No, but we can eat it now.

Okay, okay. We shall. We got Mountain Valley wire for you. My stomach is growling, honey. Yes, oh my god, same. I was so excited, okay. We also got extra pizzas in the glam room if you guys want some.

Ooh, I thought I saw that. Yes, yeah. The bar, it's the Barbie tissue for me. Oh yes, oh my god. I love this. Oh my god. That wasn't even on my notes, but I totally forgot that you did the Barbie the bar. Oh, yes. Oh my god. Oh my god That was even on my notes, but I totally forgot that you did the Barbie movie. Oh, you really are an icon I really was so jealous for so long. I'm gonna mention me. Yeah Drink. Oh, yeah. We have to sing together

I was in the bar the most iconic song to and twice you did like a really Day version. Oh my god. No, you're an icon every way. So we did get the stuffed crust. What is your this is your order right because they said what do you want and I was like I want whatever Trish wants. Which made me nervous because I'm a very bland eater. Really? Yeah, that's fine. Should I open it? Should we do the reveal? It's a it's a cheese pizza But this is your order this is what you would eat in the car. This is what I would eat in the car Okay. Yes. Okay. How do you feel about just a cheese pizza stuffed crust? I'm so happy Are you sure but this oh my god? Look at the oil the garlic oil on the bottom But this crust has something special about it. This is a stuffed crust But like the outside has like speckles and Parmesan have you never had the parmesan stuffed crust from Domino's?

I haven't I love that you're like, let's do her order. I was I was so nervous, but we do have yeah There's pepperoni. There's vegetable cuz again, I didn't know so I've actually haven't had Domino's in years So you just wanted it for this occasion for you. Yeah, I saw you eating it in the car and I was like damn She's making us good. Oh my god. I'm so honored. Yeah, this is crazy. You're Cheers, absolutely. Cheers to everything. Oh my gosh It's the life into loving our bodies and loving our bodies at any and every size and eating stuffed crust cheese pizza I'm gonna cry. I'm really gonna cry

Wow, you got a good cheese bowl, let me try it. Oh my God. Mmm. I've been waiting for this moment for so long. Oh my God, and it's so hot still. I love that you want to eat right away. Some people are like, let's wait, and then it gets cold. Nope.

Uh-huh. I was actually, no bullsh, I was so afraid y'all would think I was a diva, cause I was gonna be like, if you already ordered the pizza, I'm running late, can you order another one so it can be fresh? Are you kidding me my biggest pet peeve in the world is like waiting We just finished a 35-day tour and if there was food I was like it has to get there like when I'm done with the meet and greets or we have to order new

Because piping hot please. If it sits, I'm like, yo, give the pizza to somebody somebody got to eat it But it ain't gonna be me. We're all the same that way. Oh my god, it's so crazy. I love that everyone here is eating Domino's too. That makes me so happy. Yay! Can I tell you? I know I talk about this every episode and I'm sorry to be annoying,

but they sponsor every single influencer multiple times. Never once have I gotten a sponsorship Domino's. And I've been their Domino's girl for like 10 plus years. I only wanted Domino's because of you. Oh my god. I don't even know any other influencer who, I don't even know who else would. They don't eat it, they don't eat it,

but they eat it because specifically this crust was doing a big campaign sponsoring everyone and now we have Lizzo eating Domino's the first time in years. How do you like the cheese crust? Not sponsored. And you're so sponsored. I promise you. Maybe this is amazing.

It's so good, right? Ah, I'm gonna cook a good one. Cause it's like a little cheese stick. Talk about me eating good. You eat it so good, cause you're getting the cheese pull. Mm-hmm. It's like, I'm on my period too. Like, we're on the opposite ends.

Like, you're pregnant, I'm on my period. We're like on the opposite ends of the reproduction scale. Oh, right. Oh, right, cause when you have your period, you can't get pregnant. We couldn't be further apart. Yeah. But we still enjoy pizza the same,

which is the best part about being a girl. Oh my god. Da da da da da da. Wait, what is that one? I like when my hair is done. Oh, that's great. I like when my nails are done. Being a girl is fun.

I love that. I love that you didn't just bust out a song any time you get. I'm like a Disney princess. Do you love Disney? Or are you just like the voice of a Disney princess? I do. I mean, I feel like our generation, we grew up with Disney. It was just like what it is.

So it was like we played Disney princesses. You had to pick which one you were. Which one were you? Because we were like 90s princesses. There it is. Every time. Every time. Really? So when like Halle Bailey was the new mermaid,

I was like yes. Can we talk about that? Yeah, we can talk about it. I auditioned for Ursula and didn't get it. Do you think you were, do you know how far you made it? Like were you doing callbacks, were you doing screen tests? I'm so, it makes so much sense. And I was like how did you, I'm Liz McCarthy,

but also like how did you not get it? You're like a singer Right, but I just feel like no shame Maybe they didn't want like a black princess and a black Ursula Just you would have been purple in all fairness Perfect response It wouldn't have really, you know, mattered. I don't know.

I feel like also I'm not the bad guy. You know what I mean? Like I'm the good guy and I think I was a little too likeable. And you are, again, obviously like most of the guys are very pretty, but you are very like pretty. So it's like hard to be like a sea witch. You know what I mean? Especially Ursula.

She's kind of known for being. They were like giggling and kicking their feet in the audition room In front of everybody yeah, and I think Melissa's like has more range as an actress And could like bring out that, you know menacing side like I was too like I was like come on girl Like yeah, Ariel will want to give everything away to be with me She'd be like, you know what, I don't need a voice. Let me turn up with Ursula. So were you playing it different like that? Were you playing a different character than the Ursula?

Maybe not as villainous. Not as villainous. I was a little too like, fun, maybe. Okay, that's how you audition for. But not funny. I feel like Ursula was, I feel like Melissa McCartney did an amazing job because she's how you audition for. But not funny. I see. I feel like Ursula was, I feel like Melissa McCartney did an amazing job. Yeah.

Because she's a comedic actress. And Ursula is a little funny. You know what I mean? Yes. She has her little jokes and she'll be like, you know, body language, you know, like that's her thing. Yes. I think I wasn't funny enough.

You're so funny. Like that's the craziest thing I ever heard. Like, you know, you're an actress. You did Mandalorian. Was Mandalorian before or after? Oh my God, after. Oh, so do you think maybe they were like, we love her though, so let's put her as Jack Black's wife.

Baby, I'm in the Disney universe now, yeah. Not only Disney, like Star Wars. Like I did not watch Mandalorian, but I watched the one episode you were in, because he's like Jack Black, which I love, and then he's like Lizzo, and I was like, wait, what? What do you mean Lizzo's in Star Wars? It was just another thing, I'm telling you, I had to really.

Don't make me cry. Lizzo's in Star Wars is such a crazy statement because I grew up, I was a Star Wars girl. We watched Star Trek in the household, but Star Wars is something you never, I went to, when I had a meeting with the agency that I was with at the time, they were like, anyone's career, like who, that we represent,

whose career would you want? And I was like, and this was like 2000, maybe 19 or something, and I was like Donald Glover because he can have his own TV show, he can win a Grammy for his music, and he can be in Star Wars. And I was like, he has the perfect career. And then I got a TV show, I won a Grammy,

and then once the Star Wars thing happened, I was like, this is crazy. Oh man, you actually manifested. You believe in the manifestations and all of that. What? I used to look in the mirror and just say everything. Mind you, during my weight release, there was a lot of me looking in the mirror and just being like, you did it. I'm so proud of you, during my weight release, there was a lot of me looking in the mirror

and just being like, you did it. I'm so proud of you, you did it. You did it, girl, I'm so proud of you. I just would say that to myself every day, no matter where I was in my journey. And I did have a number that I wanted to hit, and I would look in the mirror and I would say that number to myself.

I would be like, today, you weigh, and I would say that number, and I'd be like, I'm so proud of you, you did it. And here we are. I mean, that's one thing I've actually, I love manifesting too, I have actually never manifested a number, maybe I should do that.

Because in my head I'm just like, well this is me forever, I'm just like, this is what I am, and I'm like, I've tried to come to terms with it, I'm like, everyone's getting saying, maybe I'm just supposed to be the fat girl, maybe I'm just supposed to take Melissa McCarthy's roles and Lizzo's role,

and maybe I'll just be fat, you know what I mean? You're screaming. I'm still fat, don't leave me, sis, I'm like everyone's getting saying, maybe I'm just supposed to be the fat girl. Maybe I'm just supposed to take Melissa McCarthy's roles and Lizzo's role and maybe I'll just be fat. You know what I mean? I'm still fat, don't leave me, sis. I'm done, I'm not getting no smaller than this, honey. I'm plateaued. You're my goal weight. Cause I never actually visualized that. I was always scared if I visualized being skinny.

Like you were saying earlier, it'd come in like a different form, like depression or something. So I'm like, let me not visualize that, but like let me be, I always just say be healthier, because I know what you mean, that kind of stuff. You're knee and your back. Do you feel like you're healthy right now?

That's a loaded question. Kind of, I mean, you know, because obviously, you're an actual performer, but I did a tour for the first time, a big one, and I was on stage for like an hour and a half, moving and stuff, and I was like, wow, I feel pretty healthy that I'm able to do this. Yeah, while pregnant, get out of here.

Yeah, so I feel good, and then yeah, when you're pregnant, you do all the tests, and so I'm like, well, I feel, but I know I don't eat well. Like, I know that, like it's not, you were saying vegan kind of made you like, full, like the rice and stuff, which isn't like bad. Mine's like Wendy's and stuff, you know, that's what I'm eating.

So I think I need to switch. You eat a lot of fast food. Yeah, so healthy, probably not, but I need to get better at that, especially my age. Do you drink pop, like soda pop? I actually don't, no, I actually don't. I know everyone says that's like the first thing to cut out.

Or I heard you said your Starbucks drinks in the morning, like sugary drinks, but I don't drink those either, so it's like, ugh. Great. What can I cut out? I need to cut out the fast food, yeah. You never did fast food. Fast food, I don't do fast food.

And not because it's like, fast food freaks me out. The only fast food I'll eat is Raisin Cane's. That was my first job, I used to work there, and I know where that chicken comes from. Real chicken? It's real chicken. I love that. It's delicious, I love Raisin Cane's. They sponsor a lot of people too.

I wish they'd sponsor us. They sponsor podcasts left and right. I'm like, where's ours? I love Raising Cane's too. The owner, Todd Graves, he sent me a bottle of Dom to my table. We were at the same restaurant cause he remembered, I met him when I was 16.

And he knew that you worked at Raising Cane's? Oh my God, I love that. Sent you a bottle of Dom. Okay, Raising Cane's doing well. Oh baby, they were only in Texas and Louisiana, and I was like, I wanna open a chain in LA. And then I blinked and they're just everywhere in LA now. You're doing very well.

Yeah, they should give you one because Post Malone had one in Texas. They should definitely give you your own chain. I was vegan when Post Malone had his, and I was like, what can I do? Can I do vegan tenders? And now I'm not, I'm like, bring it on. Yeah. Lizzo, Raising Cane's collab.

Oh my God. Purple sauce. I'm claiming it now. Because you're so pink now too. I am so pink, but purple is, I'm a purple person. Purple is your color. Mm hmm. Another reason you shouldn't be Ursula,

because purple would have been. Hello, I look good in purple. Yeah, purple is good for you. Wait, we were talking about something. Everything. Oh, fast food. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I do think that fast food has invisible additives that are making us all sick and addicted. And I think if you cut that, if

you started cooking at home and it doesn't even matter which if you cook the same shit, but just at home, if you like stuffed crust pizza, make your stuffed crust pizza from scratch. You know what I mean?, make your stuffed crust pizza from scratch. You know what I mean? You got a little money. You can get a chef up in here too. And can I tell you, I think a chef would be cheaper than we door dash a lot. You would save money. I know. I know. That's my goal. We used to cook before having kids and I'm like, I want to get back there.

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And he'll like, yeah, I just gotta find foods that I like, because I am picky and I know, I'm a big girl, and everyone's like, how are you picky? You eat so much food, but it's like, I'm picky on what I like. I mean, you could have gotten anything on the planet. You got a cheese pizza. I know, that's why I was like, no, he's gonna judge me,

but I got other ones there. Are you sure you don't want like a veggie or a pepper, that's why I was like, no, she's gonna judge me, but I got other ones there. It's so good though. Do you guys, you don't want like a veggie or a pepperoni? Oh, I'm great. I do want like a little crispy Coke, a little Coke Zero. Yeah, Coke Zero, we have that ready for you. We have the popcorn too, but it's a microwave one. If you need a microwave, you can microwave it.

Oh, I'm okay. I never heard of that popcorn you liked either. Which one? It wasn't Skinny Pop, but it was like Smart. Oh, that's so good. Really? They use like, they use like ghee butter or something. And it just is so buttery to me.

It's a microwave one, right? Wait, no? No. Which one you got? We could only find the microwave one. I don't know. Oh, this is the part of town we in. You and the, you and the, you and the boonies.

You and the boondocks. Thank you for coming all this way. It is far, we are far. Anyways, I think you're beautiful as you are. You said you weigh 260. I'm about 270 right now. With the baby. And I think 270 is still such a cute number.

Don't even play me. I would be like, yeah, I'm 270. I say it more of owning. I'm a little embarrassed by it, but it's almost like, I just like to say things before, you know what I mean? Like when you came on here, I have to tell her that I was jealous and envious because it just eats me

inside, same thing with the weight. I'm like, I just gotta tell people my weight because I don't know why I feel like I need to. But that's why I would be like, I'm a big girl, I'm fat. I would say it before, so people wouldn't say it to me, and it would kind of disarm it, and I would take the power back in it. I don't think there's anything wrong with the way you look.

I feel like your body is so cute and everyone, all the things I see about you on the internet is always positive about how your body is T and so cute. Like you have a really cute shape too. Like. Well I think it, thank you. I think body positivity movement has helped because yeah, back in the day when I was like

80 pounds lighter I was like, you're fat. Like I was fat just like Simpson in the M&M video in like 2009 and they called me like a morbidly obese Jessica Simpson I was like 180 I was like crazy right? Isn't it crazy how much things have changed like these kids do not know I know it was a war zone Jessica Simpson mom pants that is my nightmare yeah I couldn't like and mind you I was way bigger than Jessica Simpson when that came out. And I was like, wait, is something wrong with me? Yes. Do you want a straw?

We have straws too. Yes. Yes. Yes. Poke zero. Is that, do you think that stuff works good? I've never had it really. Is this evil to add? Is that plastic? You want a plastic one? I love the turtles. Okay. I'm gonna say that. I love the turtles, but this paper gets stuck'm gonna say that, I love the turtles.

But this paper gets stuck to my lip gloss. You know what I don't understand, and maybe someone can explain it. And I'm with you, I feel like, I never really knew about the environment and stuff until I had kids and I was like, okay, we should probably start doing stuff to help global warming and stuff like that.

But, okay, they have the paper straws, but the cup is plastic. Let me tell you something. Thank you. It's a Psyop. It's a Psyop. There is a concerted effort to make the general public carry the burden of climate change

and the negative effects that are happening to our environment when it's really a small handful of companies and it's they're deforesting like the rainforest and they're like pumping toxins into the sky and they're like dumping our trash into the oceans, but like they try to guilt the average every day American and really the things that they even give us the options they give us straws And really the things that they even give us, the options they give us, straws, recycling, it's an illusion.

They're not doing anything with that recycling. When you put in the recycling bin, that just is going to the same damn place. The straws, they don't have an effect on... I know this. I just... I've never heard this ever. I go into like deep dives.

Online. Yeah. Oh my gosh. up I read up on these kinds of things But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep our environment clean It doesn't like I don't litter like if I see trash on the ground I try and scoop it up with my foot and put in you know what I'm saying like I I think we should keep our planet clean but like The burden should be on these, there's a handful of companies that are contributing to the destruction of this planet,

and nobody's holding them responsible. But companies that are like Amazon, are they big companies, or are they just these small companies who own the companies? It's so scary, and there's nothing in me then about it. It's so scary. I know, I love that you deep dive into this stuff, companies who own the companies. It's so scary and there's nothing to mean about it. It's so scary. I know, I love that you deep dive into this stuff

because I need to because now I do get more concerned about it but I'm also like, I feel helpless, what can you do? The best thing we can do, well, as I look around, I'm like under-consume. I look around, I'm trying girl. I'm trying to get rid of everything. I'm trying to under-consume, I promise.

Under-consume, core, that helps on an individual level, but really it's just, the problem is so big and so out of our control. It's crazy. That's what I'm saying. It's so scary. I'd like to support companies like Four Oceans and stuff. They go out and they scoop the trash out of the ocean. They do it every day.

It's incredible. If you ever get this on your algorithm, it's called Four Oceans. They like get giant nets and they have these ships and they just scoop the trash out of the ocean. Oh my gosh, I've never heard that. What? Yeah, there's people who do it. Oh, that's amazing.

Yeah, they're incredible. Okay, so they're helping. Cause that's what I understand too, with like the plastic straw situation. I was like, how is it getting there and all this other, but it's not the plastic straw, it's just people throwing their shit in the ocean. I mean, it's so much.

The deforesting for cattle is crazy, because they're mowing down the rainforest in order to have slaughterhouses for cattle. I was just talking about this at one of our shows, because I was talking about how the rainforest cafes are being shut down, but I was like, what about the rainforest? Do you know what I mean?

What is happening there? They're trying to get rid of rainforest cafes so like, what about the rainforest? Like, do you know what I mean? Like, what is happening there? They're trying to get rid of rainforest cafes so that we can forget the rainforest existed because they're destroying it! Wake up, people! That's what I've been saying! Because I was so distracted by all the rainforest cafes' clothing,

and I was like, but... You get it, I knew you would. I overget it, I overstand. Yeah. Yeah, I watch the world with, I sleep with one eye open on this world. Yeah, we're on the same wavelength. I swear I just was talking about this last week

in Atlantic City and I was just like, oh my God, this is so crazy and I need a deep dive more, but I do get scared. Don't you feel helpless, like a little tiny human that's helpless and you're just watching this, you're like, what the do we do? Yeah. What do we do every day? I wake up. I'm like, what do we do? Well, and then it's like, okay, let me Get on tiktok and yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the awareness is good though Also church, no, it's epic. No, it's epic. You know you did it

The whole thing but um, yeah, I tried to go back on it and I've literally just been getting sick after sick, so I stopped. Yeah, I know a lot of people that are like that, that are probably me. I, yeah. Girl, I feel you. That's why I'm like, there's nothing, I hope that they caught all of that,

because there's nothing that beats just changing your lifestyle a little bit. Yeah, it's like longevity too, because otherwise you're on it forever and all that stuff. It's inspiring, I guess that's, again, I never want to make it all about just your weight, because that's like longevity too because I was here on it forever and yeah, it's inspiring. I guess that's again I never want to make it like all about just your weight because like, you know, that's like what but it's something that I talk About way too much and I need to not because it is like frustrating But they make us obsessed with it though. I know they they bombard us with like you're not small enough

You're not small enough every single day It's like from like looking at magazines from like going to stores and things not fitting us to like This is the fat jokes like we are truly bullied into being obsessed with our weight like especially like I know all humans but like women particularly like no matter how and I Have known women who are Larger-bodied and smaller-bodied. We all have the same obsession. Yeah. Yeah, and it's toxic. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, no, I thank you for that,

because I was just like, it's been a struggle, and he's very against it, but I'm like, okay. It's okay, I'm that friend that you can talk about your man over and over and over, it doesn't matter. You know that girl who's like, you can't talk about him anymore, no, talk about him to me. Yeah, yeah, keep going, okay, I appreciate that.

I'll listen. I was like, and it must just be frustrating too, when you do it like, you know, a natural way, and then everyone, because of Ozempic, everyone's like, well, she obviously did it, because every big person who was big is now skinny, and you're like, well, hmm. You know what's so crazy?

I take that as a compliment. Yeah. Like, I take the Ozempic, oh my God, it really happened. It's off, it's off. Oh my God. I just got mine off yesterday, because mine were like, literally busting. They look good though, they look bomb.

Thank you. Yeah. No, um. Let me know if you need anything. The Ozempic allegations, that's a compliment. It just means that I really did my big one. Yeah. You know, like the, anything like that.

Oh, you got something done to your face. I remember once somebody on my TikTok was like, what did you do to your face? And I was like, oh, period. My skincare routine is working. Oh, right, because they think you have like the lift everyone's doing now. Yeah.

I'm like, no, this is just my mama. That is, but that's so real, because when you do look at yourself, I guess also makeup changes so much too, but like, yeah, when we're like younger, you look, we looked older, you know, mine too. I always look, I'm like, oh my God, I look, but then I guess the good glam always helps too,

like a glam too. Oh, the great glam. Yeah. Yeah, what? But you do have really good skin, like you're, even like your arms, everything's like, really amazing. Thank you. And I'm like, like a glam too. Oh, the great glam? Yeah. Yeah, what? But you do have really good skin, like even like your arms, everything's like really amazing. Thank you, and I'm like, this is so natural. Are you gonna release a skincare routine? Release?

Skincare line? I've been asked that. I might threaten to do that. I feel like you should, I mean, because the Yeti obviously is like take it off, so would you partner with someone? Because you partner with, is it Fabletics, with the Yeti? Yeah, Yeti is, yeah.

I own Yeti, but we're a sister company, so it's Yitty, Fabletics, and Fenty, actually, Savage, yeah. Okay, that's a good company to be in. Yeah. That's amazing. It's also because the size inclusivity. When they said, and thank you, by the way, you brought this outfit for me when they said,

we're gonna be matching, I was like, I hope they have my size. That's always my fear, is always like, yeah. We have 6X. Oh, that's officially, I think, the biggest. I think even Skims only goes up to like 4X. No, we're 6X, honey. And we design on larger mannequins.

A lot of brands, they'll design their clothes or their shape or whatever on a smaller mannequin and then they'll just scale up. So that's why sometimes it doesn't fit the same or look the same when it's like the plus sizes, but we actually have larger bodied mannequins that we design on, so what you see on the website

is what you get at home. Oh, that makes sense, because even this is like, it's very forgiving too, it's a 2X, usually I'm a 3X in Fashion Nova, and then I wear this, I was like, oh, it's very like, size appropriate. We run a little big. Which is great.

Yeah, which is wonderful. Yitty is like, we're actually such an incredible brand and we have like such an amazing product. I just think like, once people get it, they're hooked. But they have to get it. You know what I mean? So that's why I'm like, put some Yitty on your tits. I love it.

By the way, that's my daughter's favorite TikTok, obviously she doesn't know. But she saw the flowers that you were doing and she was cracking up. We had it on replay. She was like, put it on again. All the flowers, the giddy up, the giddy. It was so cute.

Period. Period. It was, are you coming up with this content or do you have someone come up with the content for you? I come up with everything you see. I rushed home that day because I would film something else for Genius and I was like, I have to do this right now

And I like called my assistant I was like go to Walmart and get those little flowers that sing Just like racing the Sun to get it done. I have like a vision I'm like Raven-Symon like I'll be like and it hits me and it's like okay. I have to do it and I have to execute That's amazing and so you like just is like a shoe and then you have to do it. And I have to execute it. That's amazing. And so you like, just did like a shoot and then you're like, okay, well I have the glam on still. Let me just like be cute. Oh please.

They get on my every day, they're like, oh, she getting in glam. What five things is she gonna do today? Cause it's like, there's the thing, then there's the thing after the thing after thing. I'm like, I'm gonna do a yitty haul. I'm gonna do a snippet of my new music. I'm gonna do, yeah, I'm gonna do a photo shoot.

Yeah. I max out the glam. I start the glam, my glam usually starts at 6 a.m. And then I'm like at 6 p.m. I finally take it off. Yeah, because I do as much as I can. I'm gonna do the podcast, but then I'm like, okay, if there's a sponsor thing, if there's this. Because I do the three times a week. So I'm just like, okay, let me just get everything

I can in one day. Wait, is it 6 a.m. because of the babies? No, just to get stuff done. Wow. Yeah, uh-huh. So you're like the, I have as many hours in a day as Beyonce mentality. Yes, yeah.

What's with you when I'm glam? I'm a whole different person. Once I don't have glam, I don't want to film anything. I have as many hours in a day as Trisha Paytas and I have to make it work. I have to make it f***ing count. I never heard that before, the many hours in a day as Beyonce, what is that?

Oh, just like Beyonce. Yes, but she gets so much done. So it's like, okay, she got the same 24 hours as you, like, get to work. Yeah, you thanked Beyonce in your Grammy speech. I did. I love that. Was it just because, like, Houston girls are just like?

Yeah. I know there's like conspiracies why people thank Beyonce, but. There's conspiracies, yeah. At this point, I just think we're all, like, way too chronically online. I think we all need to go outside and just like breathe for a second. Because once that started happening, I was like, oh, we're cooked.

Like, we'll believe anything. Like, AI is going to scam the shitless. I thanked her because she was right there. Okay, I have a personal thing. I skipped school in the fifth grade to watch Destiny's Child perform. And I got to tell Michelle Williams that. And once I told Michelle, I said, you know what?

And I got to tell her that years ago at like Bonnaroo in like 2018 or 19 or something. And I was like, okay, my goal is to tell every member of Destiny's Child the story of how I skipped school in fifth grade. Then I got to tell Kelly. And I was like, oh my my goal is to tell every member of Destiny's Child the story of how I skipped school in fifth grade, then I got to tell Kelly. And I was like, oh my God, I told Michelle and Kelly. Then on stage at the Grammys, I said, Beyonce's right there, I can tell her the story.

Oh my gosh. So for me, that was like, Your moment. That was my moment to tell her the story, that's all. Oh, I love that, okay. Isn't that so amazing, like when you meet someone and you're just like, especially someone as big as her, and you're just like, man, they're so real, they're just like a human. Yeah, I love that so much. It gives me faith in humanity

You know when someone that incredible and talented and like awesome is like actually just like a real person with like a kind heart I'm like, oh, but that's what you give off Honestly, like truly and I'm not just saying this like it really was just like I just breathe when he came in cuz I was so Nervous. I was like, okay interview. I was like had in my little notes. I was like, okay I don't want to like ask her questioned when you came in, because I was so nervous. I was like, okay, interview. I was like, had it in my little notes. I was like, okay, I don't want to ask a question. I was so nervous, and then when you came in, I was like, okay, this seems so much fun.

You know what I mean? Which is so crazy, because also you do give off that same Beyonce energy, where it's almost untouchable. You know what I mean? What? That's a Houston thing, maybe. I guess that's where it's at. Us Houston girls, we're a different breed, honey.

Us Texas girls, wait, where are you from? I'm from Illinois. Oh, you're a Midwest girl. Yes, yeah, you started out in Michigan. I was born in Detroit. And then 10 years old, you moved to Houston. Yes, come on, bibliography. And then you come back to the Midwest.

Yeah. So what do you like? Houston is your hometown, not the Midwest. Yeah, I'm a Houston girl. If you've, my accent, my friend group, everything, the way I dress, all of that was Houston. But you know, I was born in Detroit, so my whole family's in Detroit.

Like cousins, you know, great uncles, and aunties and grandmas and all that, they're all Detroit. So it's kind of been like, you know, you go back to Detroit for like family reunions or funerals or something like that, and then Houston is very like where I go to see all my best friends and their babies.

How often do you go back? I go... My answer actually would have been so fucked up and it would have added to the conspiracy theory, so I'm not gonna say it. Oh, conspiracy theory, which one? There's so many about you now. Hell yeah.

Come on, that just means I'm really that bitch. I'm a legend now. When I tell you, obviously I knew of you, but when I did the research, I was like, God, there's so many stories. Which ones do you ask, which ones do you not? There's just so many conspiracies about you. Well, I have lore.

I love that. The lore is deep. I was gonna say every time Beyonce has a concert. They're like, what's with her and Beyonce? You just love her. I love her. But yeah, I am gonna go to Cowboy Carter. And Houston.

Yeah, and I'm gonna see the babies and see my best friends and turn up a little bit. June 27th is like a Houston holiday, Trilla's Day of the Year, so I'll be down there for that. Is it hot though in Houston at this time? It's hot as, but it's humid. But that makes it worse. I can't do anything. Yeah, exactly.

I used to take like three showers a day. Sorry to the environment, I didn't know back then, but I used to take like three showers a day in Houston because it's like you wake up, you take your first shower, you go out, you come back home, because as soon as you walk outside, your body starts to perspire. Like it just collects do

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We love you Home Chef. Thank you so much for sponsoring today's episode. Yeah. Do you like baths? No. Wait. I do shower. I just, if it was just me.

You hate doing it. Yeah, when I was. So you get in and get out real quick. Oh, definitely that. But when I was just single, I was single almost my life until I was like 32. I never had a boyfriend. And so I would just not shower for five days. I would just never shower.

But I also never left my house and never saw people. Were you depressed? Partially, yeah. There was five years. But even when I was happy, I was still like, oh, showering is, I was just- What is it about showering? Just the idea of it.

Taking off the clothes. Thank you, over there, yeah, she's like, mm-hmm, yeah. You agree. Yeah, just taking off the clothes, being wet and drying. Whoa! Yeah, shaving, I feel like I have to shave every time I'm in the shower. Whoa!

Because you were showering every two weeks, so you had to shave! But it's... That fire was bad. What? And the hair too, it's like my hair, even if you know your hair up, if you wear a bonnet, if you wear anything, it still gets wet right here

on the nape of your neck, like everything about it was just. You're like a cat. Yeah. Cats hate water. Oh really? Yeah, have you ever tried to, I watch compilation videos of people trying to bathe their cats and they will like

leap off of the water into the sky. Yes, that was me, but you know, then I got married and I was like I probably should shower more often, yeah. What about the babies? Do you? Yes, we bathe them every night. Okay. They love it, they won't get out of a bath.

Okay. They love a bath, yes. You gotta make it fun for them. Yes, yes, and now I obviously shower for everybody around me, but. Do you watch, for everyone around you, it's crazy. But you enjoy a shower, you love a shower. What, I mean, I, I mean, I don't even,

it's like brushing your teeth, like, it's just like, this is a part of the, I don't like being funky, like, you saw me floss just now after eating, like, I like to floss after eating, I don't like feeling funky and skunky. The only time I will, let me get on, let me get on, let me get on your level a little bit,

is when I'm really, really sick, S-I-C-K, in the bed and it's been like a day of me just being in the bed, like I can't move, I can't get out, and then that next day, maybe day and a half after being sick for that long, I finally get the strength to get out of bed and I shower, oh, that feeling, you don't love that feeling?

No, you love the feeling of getting in the shower. Oh, I love that feeling. I was loving the feeling of just being in the bed and not having to shower, that feeling. So that part where I'm just like, oh, I'm just gonna stay in this, like, oh, like I do kind of see where you're coming from a little bit, but what I love more than that is that shower.

I'm just like, oh, it just feels like you're just like running through like a, there was shower. I'm just like, oh, it just feels like you're just running through a wall. There was commercials where they was like, yes, yes! Those were the commercials. Yes. Something like that, yeah. It's just a herbal essence commercial for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I will say once I'm out of the shower, I love it. I'm always just like, oh, I feel like it's a cleansing. I feel like, oh my god, I just got baptized. It feels very great. What's your shower routine? Is it tedious? It's, um, I can't, no. I'm in there like for like three minutes.

Okay, cause you like, I rinse, I do dial soap with a washcloth. Oh, cute. Are you a washcloth person? This is a debate I have all the time with people on the podcast. Are you a washcloth person? You're not.

Oh, I love a washcloth. You're a washcloth girl. Yes, but people, thank God, everyone on my podcast, everyone I know, they do their hands, people say, oh, washcloth is like, oh, that's disgusting. What do you mean disgusting? Like you're washing with your hands? Like your butt crack?

That's crazy. That's crazy, right? You put your fingers in your booty hole and then you go eat a sandwich. That part. That's crazy. Yes. I have not one, not two, but three articles of clothing

that I shower with. I don't even know if I want to call it. What does that mean? So I have a washcloth specifically for the girl in the back door. Oh, yes, too, yes. I have another washcloth for the rest of the body, and then I have a scrub for the exfoliation. Actually, sometimes for, if I wanna wash my makeup off

in the shower, I have a face, like a magic eraser face. Okay, I do hands for that, but. I wash my, I have a cloth, I use the magic eraser at the sink too though. So sometimes I wash my face at the sink, but if I wash my face in the shower, I have this magic eraser that just takes everything off. Oh, you gotta get that.

Is that the brand magic eraser? Yeah. I think it's called magic eraser, right? Yeah, it gives that shit the fuck. Unsponsored. I need that. Sponsor us. This whole thing is like a sponsor, so I'm like, I need that.

Yeah, I have like, I have three, because you know, I just like to feel like baby soft. Same, I love a washcloth, and like, yeah, people are just like, that's not hygienic. I wouldn't mean that's not hygienic. How is that not hygienic? I know, no there's a whole debate on it. I talk, I ask people all the time.

I don't even, I can't even wrap my mind around what, cause I think the rag is dirty. How dirty are you if you think the rag is dirty? Yes, and it gets in your crevices, it's like a, yeah I don't know. Get in there, get that finger, put it through that rag and get up in there. Roll it finger, put it through that rag and get up in there! Roll it around!

Get that out of there! You literally actually get it up in there. Literally! Yeah, do you do a bidet? I do have a bidet. Okay. Oh honey, you can't go to Japan and not come back to America looking around

at everybody crazy. Cause like, in Japan, there's bidets everywhere. I used like a bidet in like a like nasty like bar bathroom that was like real small with stickers and I was like this is like just a grungy nasty like bar type bathroom and it still had a bidet. I said beep So that's the standard in Japan. So when I came back from there, I was like,

oh, give me bidet everything, bidet all. So your house has a bidet? A bedazzled bidet. Yes, do you have a bedazzled one? No, but. Oh, that'd be so iconic. That's iconic. I need that, we have one bidet here,

we're trying to get another one in our room, and I just started it, because I was getting hemorrhoids, TMI, but like I started doing it, and I was like, oh, it's kind of like Game Changer, actually. What's a hemorrhoid? You've never had a hemorrhoid What is it

What I'm so sure I get hemorrhoids all the time. Oh my god, that's crazy It sounds like a hemorrhage kind of it bleeds. Oh, it can be internal or external from your bleeds. It can be internal or external from your butthole. You never had one. Well, I mean, if I did, I don't know. You would know. I would know. They're painful, they're big, they're... Or if you push too hard in the bathroom, if you're constipated, you can get them. Okay, so what's the sign that you have one? It's bleeding. Usually bleeding, yeah. Got you. So that's why you got the bidet to clean it out Yeah, cuz I can't wipe cuz then it just gets worse and worse Yes, you're going number two it's just yeah Yeah, so to that way because wiping it irritates it more needs gets like bigger and so what is it actually

Grow does anyone here know I mean, what is it? Is it a grove? Does anyone here know? It's like a balloon. You push two hearts. A blood vessel. Push two hearts. It is a hemorrhage. Okay. Yeah. I'm not gonna pass out. Kind of, yeah. Okay. Thank you for clarifying because...

I can't remember if I have one. I mean, because you look at TikTok and they're talking about it. I'm like, do I have one? No, you would know. So she's just peeing sometimes, it's just like the blood will come out of the thing. Girl, I have had so many this pregnancy because I'm always like constipated, yeah.

Wait, you gotta take some pills for that, to turn your poo into. They do, they do the MiraLax, but your bidet might be helping you really, honestly. Okay, I lost like the feeling in my arms for a second. I'm not but like turns out I am. Yeah. Okay, well that I'm so sorry.

I'm actually really sorry that sounds crazy. I'm so happy for you that you've never, never, you just got a good system I guess going all around. I poop easily yeah. That's good. Yeah. I sometimes struggle but you know. Have you ever gotten a colonic? What's that? A colonic girlfriend. It's where you go and they put a tube

in your They shoot Liquid like maybe like saline or water, like super clean pure water up your asshole into your colon and it breaks up any like impacted or compact, loosens it and then they suck all the out of your ass and it just flushes down into this like machine and goes away and you just are a new person. What's the point of that?

To get that shit out your ass. It's for constipated people. If you're constipated, you would love a con line. I would love this. And it's so relaxing, they play relaxing music and you just put a little lube there and you just. Wait, why did you do this if you don't have the trouble? And you just sit back on it and then you lean back and it's just like warm water and you just. Wait, why did you do this if you don't have the trouble? And you just sit back on it, and then you lean back,

and it's just like warm water, and you just lay back. And then if you get a good tech, they can massage your stuff and put a little vibrating machine on you, and they're just like, they're like, come on, poop, come on, poop. And it just flows out of you. I'll tell you why.

So my, whoa, I don't wanna put nobody on blast. In my family, people would get them, and so I knew they existed. So at one point in my life, I was like, I need to get a colonic, because maybe I have an issue, because whatever. There was nothing but air bubbles inside of me. She was like, come on, poop, come on, poop.

No poop was coming out of me, it was just air bubbles. So I was like, okay, maybe I'm impervious to colonics, maybe I don't have a lot of, maybe I just have air bubbles inside of me, there's no shit. So I've only had really, I went back to her the following week to be like, maybe there's something really wrong with me, still no poop. And I'm like, okay, cool.

I was pooping, but I just wasn't pooping as much as I'd like. Oh, so you just went for like a little checkup. I just went for a little checkup. I just went for a little checkup. And said, you're clean. And I didn't really need it. Meow. Meow.

Recently, we found a colonic woman. She actually just disappeared. We don't know where she is. But she's OK. Oh my god. Are you sure? Probably. I don't know.

She just disappeared. That's so scary. At the fair, I don't know where she is. We tried to find her. The business was gone. What? Oh my God. That being said, we went, you know,

cause I throw these things called ass rams. So it's like an ass ram, but it's like ass ram. We turn up a little bit, but it's very holistic. And we go and we like, we stay in a nice house. We eat like soup and we drink smoothies and we eat salads and we meditate. And we do sound baths, we go on hikes, and we get facials, we get colonics, so.

Is that a must at those retreats? It's not a must, I throw it, and so this time I was like, let's do something different. So I added that to the itinerary. And we went and baby, we cleaned house, honey. I sat on that little thing and I cleaned the house. I didn't even realize there was, there was in there. And I mean, literally.

You saw it, you saw it. I got to see it. I love seeing it. What? I was like damn, I didn't know I had all that in me. Oh my God, so you felt good after. I was full of shit. I did, I felt really good.

I don't need them, but I just like feeling clear. And this is another reason why I got a lot of backlash, because I'm a super holistic girl. I like detoxing. I do, and I don't mean detoxing in the way, people will be like, I'm starting my detox, but they're really trying to lose weight. I mean, I'm detoxing because I want to get the toxins

out of my body. I do heavy metal cleanses and things like that. I take tinctures. Was there drugs in that pizza? Because I just got really high. I think it's the lights. A little hallucinating. I feel the same way sometimes.

I'm like, whoa, am I flying over Paris? I feel like that after some time in here. But I'm really, really holistic. So I love feeling like clean and clear and giving my system a break from all the bullshit. Put it through all of the caffeine and all of the like heavy like food that it has to digest and like, you know, my booty,

like give my booty a break. Like, I love that shit that's coming out. Yeah. Do you like to detox? I've never done it. No, I tried like the master cleanse one time, but yeah. No, that's an eating disorder. See, but that's what I'm talking about. I'm like, oh, they're like, oh, lemon, cayenne, lemon, cayenne, pepper and syrup. Yeah. Maple syrup, I think. Yeah. I think like detoxing is a slippery

slope any diet or anything like that, because it can turn into something toxic. But I think detoxing is a slippery slope, any diet or anything like that, because it can turn into something toxic. But I think if you did something that was just like, I want to do liquid in the morning, or in just soups, really good soups. You could do a chicken and kale soup. You could do a chicken and kale soup. I don't know any other soups. I never eat soup, I never really eat I was like I don't know any other soups. I never eat soup, I never really eat soup, so I don't know, yeah. You don't eat soup? No, I know, I am such a baby with food.

I need to reprogram my mind somehow. So wait, what is on your list of things that you like? I'm so embarrassed, it's like chicken fingers, pizza and butter noodles, that's it. You don't like kale? Girl. You've never tried kale wait I've never and I get this is so embarrassing my kids eat vegetables thanks to my husband but I never eat in like broccoli or a vegetable or anything I was gonna ask

you know you've never had broccoli never I don't think I've had any green nothing green broccoli and cheese. Nope, nope. Wait. I know, I'm like really, really bad with it. Do you do like Caesar salads? Never had a salad. What the hell? I know, because I hate the taste so much,

I'm like, I'd rather just starve, you know? Like I'd rather just not eat, if that's my choice. Do you like avocado? I tried that in my first pregnancy, maybe, I don't choice. Do you like avocado? I tried that in my first pregnancy. Maybe, I don't know. Do you like guacamole? No. Yeah.

Wait, I'm so confused. I know, I know. Do you like seafood? I like a boil, like a seafood boil. You like crab legs. I like crab legs, corn, and the potato, and everything with the rice. But you don't do shrimp. Fried shrimp, we have fried shrimps.

Yeah, so yeah. If it's deep fried. Yeah, we do love the Kroger ones that you can throw in the oven. Okay, this is fascinating. Yeah, no, it's embarrassing, it really is. Honestly. I need to eat better.

If you, specifically you, because now that I know a little bit more, if you just changed, if you just stopped eating fast food, literally that's it. You can eat anything you want, but if you just stopped eating fast food, it would change your life significantly. I know, I don't think I've ever gone more than like

a couple days without eating fast food. Yeah, I know, it would be crazy. I know, I need to. You might be inspiring me. And after seeing you like in person too, I was kind of like, damn, maybe. And this ain't even like, I want you to be smaller, cause I think you look beautiful.

But I feel like you would feel a difference. I know. That's why I thought I should do the GLP one. So I thought, well maybe it rewires your brain to be like, I don't want this. Don't do it. But then people like, get to eat a lot of protein, which is not my strong suit.

So I was like, yeah. Don't do it. Wait, make chicken tenders at home. We used to before kids. We used to like do the homemade bread. I can't imagine, that's probably hard. But I like the idea of a chef because we do spend a lot on ordering out

and I spend too much money. So I'd rather spend it on something like that, like something healthy and good. Wow. That might be my goal after this. I've been talking about it and I think that might be my goal to have someone just to help me prepare food.

But I also like, if you're happy, do you? But I also feel like you've expressed to me and I have to make this very clear because I do not want the internet being like, she was bully-agent, you know what I mean? Oh no, no, yeah. But you've expressed to me your desires. Multiple times, yes.

Everyone knows. And the whole internet knows I wanna be thin and I wanna be healthier. Like, this has been no secret for me. Just fast food. And that's the secret. Like, you can eat whatever you want, but if you cook it yourself.

Because we don't know what they're putting in our food. They're putting crazy shit in our food. Like, just like crazy amounts of extreme salts and sodiums. Like, crazy milligrams of sodium that we don't even need. Crazy amounts of butter that we don't need even though I love butter and I put butter on I fry hard-boiled eggs and butter for breakfast it's so good and on a calendar I can say it works yeah it does because I love that I'll do like I'll do like you

know two hard-boiled eggs and I slice them in half and then I like fry up a tablespoon of butter and I throw them in there and just. And then I put like a little, like I sprinkle some like flaky smoked sea salt on there, crack some pepper, little hot sauce, f*** that s*** right up. I love a hard boiled egg. That's one healthy thing I will eat.

I love a hard boiled egg and a grapefruit. Like that was like my meal when I was like trying to lose it because I do love it, but. Hard boiled egg will get you there. Really? Yeah. Okay, I gotta do more of that. We were doing that for a minute every night for dinner. I'd be like, can you make me some hardboiled eggs?

You can make me like three hardboiled eggs. For dinner? Yeah. Have you seen like that hardboiled egg diet? Everyone's going. No, what? What is it? I was like, man, I know y'all farts is lethal.

Cause they do a, you know, seafood boil, but they do, but it's a hardboiled egg boil. So it's like just hardboiled eggs, but they do the seafood sauce, and they just be f**king that s**t up, and they eat it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and they're like, I lost 15 pounds on a hard boiled egg. I'm like, okay, 15 pounds of farts.

Honestly, I would do it though. I would do it if that's what's needed. That might be your ministry. Oh my God, you might be right. Do you remember YouTube? Do you watch YouTube like that? Are you like online? There was a girl who used to do seafood boil.

Her name was B-loves-Light. Oh my God. Do you remember her? Am I a human being used to see foot boil. Her name is B loves life Am I a human being? Beating heart No, but I'm I've watched I've been watching you eat for ten years, which is crazy. You don't know I don't eat vegetables, but yeah, but like I I love mukbangs. Okay, but you know like you don't mukbang vegetables I don't think people I used to tell people that like you don't see what I eat all the time Mugbang vegetables. I don't think people. True. I used to tell people that like you don't see what I eat all the time But that's what I was eating all the time It's like that's exactly what I was eating

Okay, so you've been watching the Mugbang So you know B and she had that sauce and she would do the heart. Yeah. Yes. Her seafood was. Did you try? Did you try her sauce? I loved it. It was on Amazon. I don't know if it still is but it was so good I've never tried her sauce. It was so good We did a Mugbang together and met her in person and she was like gave me that sauce and it was so so good Oh, and was it really good in person? She made that look good. Oh, she made that look good.

The way she would just go, and suck it in with the red lip. You should do that, a seafood boil mukbang. Our next one. That will be fun. It's very messy. It's very messy, but that's why you lay out the paper and I used to do them all the time.

They're my favorite. Honestly, if we did a monthly mukbang, I would be happy. I would love. I thought that you don't even do YouTube and you're like, let's just a monthly mukbang I would be happy. I would love. I thought that you don't even do YouTube and you're like let's just do a mukbang. Yeah, yeah. Just get together and eat. Tap me in.

Okay, love. The noodles, do you do the noodles? The hot noodles? We could talk all day. I know, I know, sorry, yeah. Moses took his headphones off, he's done with us. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like bye.

He's like okay, you know what, get out of my house. Also the interviewer just took a crazy turn, people were like this is not a Lizzo. You have Lizzo here and you're talking about farts. Right, yeah, all right, let's move on. Let's talk about something. What's on the card? You got something on the card?

I do have a lot and honestly, we didn't get to any because I had Pride stuff and I had your new song and your rapper and your isolation, meditation. There's so many things to cover. You're a rapper. You're a rapper now. I've been a rapper, but yes. meditation, there's so many things to cover. You're a rapper. You're a rapper now. I've been a rapper, but yes. Wait, really?

Yeah. I feel like you sing. I feel like you're... I can do, I contain multitudes. I can do it all. All genres? Here's the thing, all genres. Here's the thing about the rap thing that's really funny.

Truth Hurts is in the Guinness World Book of Records for being the longest number one solo female rap song. Wow, how did it get submitted? Rap song. Wow. It just exists, it just happened. Is it considered rap? I'm so bad with genres.

It is. It is considered rap. Okay, I always think like Lil Kim is rap, but like I mean I guess that's kinda. Got you. You know, I don't know, I'm very bad with genres. I listen to Broadway and Donny Osmond, so I don't know. Right.

And then I feel't know, I'm very bad with genres. I listen to Broadway and Donny Osmond, so I don't know. Right, and then I feel like people, I think rap has evolved in such an interesting way where a lot of rappers are melodic. So like, the future will be like, yeah, jibba jibba jibba da, jibba jibba jibba da, jibba jibba jibba jibba da, and I'm like, oh, that's a beautiful melody, you know what I mean?

But he's a rapper, you know what I'm saying? So like, when I say in a minute, I'm gonna need a sentimental man, a woman, a pump me up. They're like, she's singing. Yeah, to me, I was like pop, but I guess that's not. I am pop. Right, because you have the Barbie song. And then yeah, that sounds confusing.

But rap is pop. Rap is what I do. Sing is what I do. sing is what I do. But pop is the genre. Got it. Is that making any sense? Pop rap maybe. Is that strange, is that weird?

I can't follow but I'm really bad musically. Okay, but when you think of pop music, what do you think of? I think of, I would say like Britney Spears. You think of people. Yeah. You don't think of like what they're doing. No.

Right, so I think I'm a pop star who raps and sings. Oh okay, so maybe you're like the only one out there like that, right? Cause I don't know if there's like another person like that. Oh my god. Pop star who raps, like probably not. Maybe Nicki. I was gonna say Nicki.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would think her popping rap. I think Nicki's a pop star who raps and sings, for sure. There's not a lot out there, so. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna say anything because. Okay, I don't know, I don't know.

Don't come for me. Don't come for me either, bitch. Yeah. You know what, guys? There are so many and you should list them. You let us know in the comments. Let us know who it is. I'm really bad with new music.

But I think recently I think I've just doubled down a little bit more with really rapping, less melody, just going for it. Because I feel like it. But you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm like, let me do it. I feel like at my label, and I've talked about this on my private page,

I have a Lizzo IRL. On TikTok or Instagram? On TikTok and Instagram now. Do people know? Well, they're gonna know now. I have a small group of people, shout out to my IRL. There's about 270K of us. Oh, that's pretty big.

Yeah, we're all just, it started at like 10K and now we're, I've let in a few people as of like yesterday, so welcome. You're approving people to join. Yeah, but at my label, I was like encouraged to sing more. You know what I'm trying to say? So like, I would do rap songs and they'd be like, sing, we like it when you sing. So I had a lot of like singing songs for a while

and they would be very successful. But I also just feel like right now, I'm just kind of following my heart and what I want to do. And that's what it looks like. And people love it. I feel like this era, especially like, especially TikTok, like I just hear it so much. The like latest one that's like so viral is the like,

Lizzo, call me Lizzy. I've been fat and I've been skinny. That's like everywhere. Would that be considered, I guess rap, right? That's rap as fuck. Yeah, that's from the beat to my delivery. There's no melody. That's rap in my opinion,

but I'm still a pop star when I do it. Got it, yeah, you're giving the cutesy girly pop. Yeah. Did you write it? You write your own music? Yeah, I write my own music, I write it. Those lyrics too, I mean, it is star when I do it. Got it, yeah, you're giving the cutesy girly pop. Yeah. Did you write it? You write your own music? Yeah, I write my own music, I write it. I love it. Those lyrics too, I mean, everyone resonates with it

because everyone is just like, they feel it, you know? You know what's so crazy? Saying I've been fat and I've been skinny but still ain't fucking moved, I would have never put that in one of my pop songs. I would have never said that. Really? I would have been afraid to offend people.

And I think rapper Lizzy, because Lizzo is the pop star, and Lizzy is the rapper. That's so smart. I mean, that's what the people are telling me. Because I was like, call me Lizzy, but I feel like when I'm in that Lizzy mode, I'm just like, man, just say what you want to say.

Oh, I love that. Say what you want to say. A little alter ego helps, maybe. A little one, a little baby one. I love it. And you're giving Lizzy McGuire today, which I love. I've been warning people that I'm coming. Well, who plays her?

Hilary Duff, right? Yeah. Hilary Duff, there's a video from early 2000s of Hilary Duff beefing with half of the girls. Yes. And I just watched that video and everyone was like, ah, the divas aren't like this anymore. The girls aren't giving us this anymore. Beefing with like half of the girls yes, and I just watched that video and everyone was like ah The divas aren't like this anymore like the girls aren't giving us this anymore They're not giving us a drama first of all you couldn't handle the drama

If we really gave you the real tea and really acted how we really acted y'all would be so offended Y'all be like oh my god kill her she's so mean she's a bitch Y'all wouldn't be able to handle Hillary D Duff today, but I told the internet outside, I'm bringing that Hilary Duff energy. I'm bringing it. You are giving Hilary Duff for sure. I'm giving Lizzie McGuire. Yes, I mean she is a queen.

She's coming back with music, so you have someone to compete with. She's coming back, and I'm coming back with something. I'm not beefing with the queen. Oh, okay, not her. Everyone else, but not Hilary. I'm not beefing with the queen. I think it's more just like when you're a diva, it's just like, you're just honest.

You know what I mean? Like, you don't hold back. Are you scared to be canceled? No. Yeah. I have no fear of cancellation. Yeah. I used to have a big fear of cancellation because I never wanted to offend anyone on

that scale. I've been, I've gotten so much backlash and I've been canceled so much for things that like aren't real or true or didn't happen or were made up or were not, you know what I'm saying? I was like, okay, so that isn't real. You know what I'm saying? Like I feel like being canceled doesn't really exist anymore. And I feel like a lot of people fake, I think a lot of people do a lot of things to get backlash on purpose.

They rage bait and stuff so they can get more successful. If anything, canceling people helps their careers, so like, hey guys, let's put our attention on positive things. I've always been like, can we reward positive behavior? Yeah, instead of rewarding like toxic negative behavior, and then y'all complain. You know why is everything so toxic? Why is everything so negative cuz you're giving it your attention Give her attention to the people doing good in the world give your attention to the positive people in the world

I think we're at the era now because I will admit I was a little bit of a rage-bater back in the day I was like a troll. I am in a different place now and I just thought people wouldn't find me interesting if I wasn't being problematic. But I will say, and I'm thankful for like second, third, fourth chances and like for goodness and all that because I do think this is the most like popular, I guess you could say I've ever been. And it's really just like me being myself

and trying to be like the real me, which is like not that person, you know what I mean? I think I was just, I don't know, I was very jealous. Unlike you, we're very absent that way. Like I was so jealous of everybody else, like everybody doing something but me. And so I think that's where like a lot of it came from. And I thought, well, I have no like talent or something.

So let me just be like angry. So yeah, when I see people rage right now, it sucks. And don't live with that forever. I've always told people like, it's not worth it. Like that money goes, you know what I mean? And you have that reputation for like so long, but the best thing you can be is yourself. And it's also the hardest thing to be in this society. So, but once you choose to be yourself and you embrace yourself, the whole world is going to embrace you back. And that's what I've learned. That's why I've always been myself. I was intentionally rage baiting too.

All the nudes I would post to myself, all that naked shit, all the, when I would go outside in my little thong and I was, you know, in my bigger body, I knew it was gonna piss people off, but I did it anyways. You know what I mean? Like, cause fuck y'all.

I'm not gonna hide myself just to make you happy so I can continue being invisible to you. You know what I mean? But I love that. Once you embrace yourself, the whole world is like, f*** with you, they're on your side. Yeah, it's such a different feeling and I wish I would have known that earlier.

And it's good that you say that kind of stuff too because I think we are in this time now where, yeah, it works temporarily, the rage bait, but also, yeah, just ignore it. I mean, I really do. When people do rage bait, I'm yeah, like just ignore it. I mean, I really do. When people like rage bait, I'm like, oh God, it's like so hard to ignore it. But when you feed them, you feed the trolls.

I look at it too. What? Yeah. I look at it too. I give it my attention too. Do you respond to other people rage bait sometimes? When they talk about me to get rage bait. Oh yeah, well, I guess that part too. I meant like in the world, but also like with you.

No, I don't respond in general. I try to ignore the people who are like really, when I see it's how, when I see that it's like super intentional, I'm like that's kind of like embarrassing now, like people who like intentionally rage bait and you can see through it and it's not like entertaining at all, it's just like, I don't like that. I just remember when you were like,

this is the only one I'm gonna bring up, because I feel like it might be the safest one because we've already talked about it. When you were just like, I don't eat animals anymore. I'm a vegan. Oh, that one made me look so mad too. I eat the skin, I just eat the skin off the can't see. I just eat the skin off the chicken.

Can I tell you that might be one of the most problematic ones people hated me for. Yeah. Yeah, talking about like veganism and animals and my best friend is a vegan. She's like obsessed with being vegan and yeah, it's a slippery slope. Oh my god, I was really, really, really careful, I should say. I'm not afraid, but I was really careful about how I came out of the meat closet because I wanted to like be very like hey I still think that veganism is a very healthy way of eating and one day I aspire to be a raw vegan

like I want to one day I want to grow my own vegetables I want to have my own farm that's the dream but right now what works for my body and what my body needs to have energy and to function is animal protein. And that's how I really feel and I really mean it because I know we're all here, we're all having, everyone's very sensitive. And I wanna make sure as someone with a high profile that I communicate things very carefully.

You know what I mean? Because it affects people. You don't think it does, but it does. And like you said at the beginning, everyone's body is so different. It's a responsible thing to say too, because like it does, where I do think, yeah,

the people I know that are raw vegan, I mean they look amazing. Some people thrive as raw vegans. Oh God, I just don't have, I don't have it right now to be able to do it. But one day I will. You found what worked for your body and how you feel good.

I was eating a lot of fake meat, man. That shit's good for you. I don't care. I don't care, that now to be able to do it. But one day I will. You found what worked for your body and how you feel good. I was eating a lot of fake meat, man. That's shit for you. I don't care. I don't care. That's not good for you. Sorry. The Morningstar spicy nuggets are my fave. Not good for you.

Oh. What I. Baby, you eating spicy plastic. Well, I was on a vegan kick and I was eating those morning nuggets and I still love them. I love the Morningstar's, but yeah. Listen, Morningstar was OG though. so maybe they weren't as plasticky. Morningstar was like the only vegetarian you could get back in a day.

Yeah. I don't know. I'm not a great at being vegan. But anyways. Neither am I, clearly. I tried. But there's like so much where I went, I don't even know where to go. I also want to sing at some point with you.

I guess that's the point, the genre. First of all, you are an amazing singer. I'm not, but I love singing so much. If there was a genre, talk about rapping and pop, do you do country, musical theater, R&B? Like is there another genre or a singer or like go to karaoke song or as a little girl, you're like, this is the song, Ariel.

Like, is there something that you're like, this is my jam?. Like, is there something that you're like, this is my jam? Mm, this is my jam. I'm so scared of R&B because the technicality you have to have to be able to, like, I think about R&B singers, I think of Brandy. You know what I mean?

Like, the vocal bible just runs and tone and I think of Jasmine Sullivan and it's just like, I can't sing like them, so I don't think I would ever try to disrespect the genre of R&B. Broadway maybe because I have a really big voice I got big voice have big vibrato I think I could take a I think I could take a show tune down. I love this Broadway is my favorite genre of anything. Have you done musical theater at all? When I was younger, I was in an off-Broadway play

of Bluefinger. Oh, great. Is it a musical? It's a musical. Oh my gosh. It was written by the lead singer of the Pixies about this singer from Europe named Herman Broad, who jumped off of a building.

He was like a drug addict, but he was like a rock star. Okay, dark. Sorry. I knew did you play. I was chorus, so I was in the background. It was the 70s, so I had like this Afro wig and I was just in the background. No way. It was fun.

You did a background part, that's insane. Oh what? I love that. Baby, this was back in the day. Oh my gosh. I would never do that now, just kidding. I'm a team player. I actually do love singing in harmony. So if they wanted me to be a part of a chorus line,

I would do it. Like the show, the Broadway show chorus line, or just a chorus line in a show? I guess both. Okay, I love, is there any Broadway shows you've seen recently that you're like obsessed with that you love, which you want to be in one? Because Brandi was in Chicago.

Yes. Although that is a role, again, not to just like shade, obsessed with that you love, which you wanna be in one. Because Brandi was in Chicago. Yes. Although that is a role, again, not to just like, Brandi's amazing, but they do put a lot of people in the Who Can't Sing as well, which is a role that I'm gunning for, because they do put people in there that, like Lisa Rinna, you know, like a housewife will go in there.

Got you. Brandi was brilliant, she was like here in LA, she was in New York, obviously she's like a star, but. Hmm, Broadway shows I've seen I was about to see death becomes or I didn't get the chance to see it but you're just having a child Michelle Williams is yeah so I've heard I've heard yeah um I watched that I was like that was rude that was really really. That was really. She does say yes.

You have to go see. You have to be in that. That's like the it show right now. And it's so good. Yeah. I got to see it. I got to see it. It's amazing. I'm trying to think of what's on Broadway show. And Tony's got robbed.

Yeah, I don't think I think I don't want anything. Gypsy got robbed. I think Sunset Boulevard won a couple. But yeah. Oh oh my god, you would be great in Sunset Boulevard, too I don't know what that is What is it? It's the one Nicole Serginger is in it right now. It's really good It's like a old one that Glenn Close was in and Patti LuPone like all those people weren't It's the vocals on those are good because if you have like that big mmm

Little shop of horrors, you'd be a good Audrey. I love that movie. Have you seen the play on off-Broadway? I have not seen the play, but I love the movie. That theme is Seymour, I would be the plant. Okay, that's an iconic role. Over Audrey, I feel like you'd be such a good one.

Oh, suddenly Seymour, wait a minute. Did Jinx Monsoon play Audrey? Yes. Oh! Yes, did you see it? No, I didn't, but if I was in it, I would want Jinx to be Audrey and I would be the plant. Okay, well, you don't see the plant so much.

I mean, you have the vocals. Oh, you don't? Not on the one they have right now. The vocals would be like, Feed me Seymour. Yeah. That could be so good. Feed me Seymour.

Oh my god. You would eat. I would do it, thank you. I would eat people eat people literally cuz that's what the plant does. Yeah Bad joke Running and I don't want people to think I don't want the coke allegations. It does happen. Yeah Sometimes with the makeup to mind does that to you? Yeah Yeah Yeah, sometimes with the makeup too, mine does that too. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Here we are. You look so good.

Thank you. You still look flawless, because it gets hot in here too. Oh my God. We have the air on, but I'm always like, so I have water on. I have eternal primer water on. What's that?

Oh my God, what? You haven't heard of Dream Labs? No. Dream Labs eternal priming water. It's like this like liquid that you put on your face before you do your makeup, and your makeup doesn't move Yeah, like I can't skin do you have oily or I have um normal

What kind of skin do you have oily? So I'm always like scared of that stuff cuz I'm like my skin's always in my I mean try it out I'm gonna try so many things with you Like watch me just get like I'll like be losing like I'm telling you all you have to do if you just stop eating fast food. And not even because I'm trying to fat shame. I'm telling you fast food got some weird shit in there.

Could you imagine the headlines are like Lizzo fat shames Trisha? That'd be crazy. No. Stranger things happening people. No your headline, your headline no matter what you say. It's like actually when I was watching like all the podcasts you did,

it's like there was headline after headline from so many things. I'm like, how do you like, you kind of say just like normal things and people love to turn it into a big thing, but. Can you say that again? It's so weird. I feel for you, I was like damn.

It's so, so that's why I've been, I have to be really careful about how I speak and who I talk to because it gets so misconstrued coming from me. And now I get why some of the biggest stars in the world are just quiet because it's like. Don't do podcasts or like no thank you. You get a little bit, you know what I mean? And it's like, but I also am like bring it on.

Like you know, people can put words in my mouth based off of like a three second clip. Go watch it, go watch it for for yourself You know what I mean? Yeah, you need your own podcast because you're such like a yapper and the stuff you say is actually so real like all your stuff about The environment I think we should so and that makes you you if you stop talking and be like everyone else you don't mean Yeah, um all right song we still have to find one more song cuz I love singing with my guest I feel like you're always down No, nobody really likes to sing with me AJ from Backstreet Boys sang with me Donny Osmond

And I think maybe I'll be able to get you see what song should we say what song do you know? Tell me like a song you love maybe I can try I know bad. It's you know what's so crazy about favorite food favorite song You know it when no one's asked you about it right right like oh, yeah, I love this I love to eat that I love this song and it was like wouldn't your favorite song It's like my brain opens up in every song that I've ever heard just escapes out of this really yeah cuz I'm trying to think like what do I know I know so many um I know a little more a but I'm just like how does it start which one which look at this stuff is this too high

wouldn't you think my collections complete wouldn't Girl, I'm not gonna be on any key or fish. Isn't it neat? Wouldn't you think my collection's complete? Wouldn't you think I'm the girl, the girl who has everything? Look at this stuff. Oh, trellis? Trellis, I'm told. How many wonders can one cavern hold? Looking around, you would think. Maybe just that way.

Sure. She's got everything. I've got gases and gizmos aplenty. I got whozits and whatzits galore. You want thingamabobs? I got 20. But who cares? No big deal. I want more.

No big deal. I want more. I want to go where the people are. I want to see, want to see them dancing, walking around on those, what's that word again? Feet. Flipping your feet. She gets you. Legs are required for jumping dancing strolling along on those

what's that word again? Street! Up where they walk, up where they run, up where they stay all day in the sun wandering free wish I could be part of that world. What would I give if I could live beyond these waters? What would I pay for just one day warm on the sand? Bet you on land, they understand And they don't reprimand their daughters Bright young women, sick of swimming Ready to stand Oh, ready to know what the people know Asking my questions and get some answers What's a fire and why is it? What's the word? Burn. When's it my turn?

When I love to explore the world. Love to explore the world. Shut up and burn. Halle Bailey version. Okay, here at the end of Halle Bailey, ready? Here we go. Halle. Above the sea. Wait, hold on, different key. Okay, I know, I switch. I Belli, ready? Here we go. Out of the sea. Wait, hold on, different key.

Okay, I switch, I do switch keys, that's my thing. Out of the sea. Out of the sea. Wish I could be. Wish I could be. Period. Part of your world. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do 10 second one. You're like, let's do the whole thing. Thank you. I'm not a see. Just kidding.

We just do it badly. In a world that wants to typecast us as Ursulas, we kind of nailed Ariel honestly. Oh my God. That was beautiful. Yeah. We love you guys. Thanks for watching. Thank you for singing me with me. You are amazing. Here's me being like, me and Lizzo could get the same roles, but then I just realized not even close to it. So you're a queen in every single way. Thank you for being so wonderful, so nice, and so positive. You've inspired me on so many levels today. So thank you.

I love it. And maybe we can get a cute TikTok in these outfits. Oh my God, we have to. And then I'll let you go. You've been here so long. That's appreciated. Bye guys. Lizzo, check her out everywhere.

I don't know, no promotion needed. I'm there. Yes, somewhere. Find me.