Just Trish - The RETURN of Gabbie Hanna & David Dobrik's NEW Reality Show?

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

Trish is back with her hot takes on the WILDEST hot topics–from David Dobrik's rumored new reality TV show to Gabbie Hanna's quiet return to social media after nearly a year of being offline. Plus, ...Trisha claps back at Miley Cyrus' older brother for shaming OF models... and her hubby, Moses, for critiquing her buttered noodles!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, welcome back to Just Trish, the podcast where we spill the dish and the tea cause my first name starts with T. It's Just Trish, make a wish. It came true, I'm already here. Happy Tuesday, everyone. Happy new week. It is Just Trish, but it's not Just Trish. You guys know it's Just Trish and Oscar. It's like Barbie and Ken.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Or Alan. Yeah. Oh, right. Okay It's like Barbie and Ken. Or Alan. Yeah. Oh, right. Okay. We have Barbie and Ken and Alan. Yeah. That's actually perfect. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:00:31 That'll be our Halloween costume. We'll have Barbie, Ken, Alan. Yeah, you did say that. You're like, I'm more of an Alan. I feel more Alan coded. Yeah. But Alan's the vibe of the film for sure. Because he goes with the Kens and the Barbies.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Yes. And he was an ally to the lady. And he could beat someone up if he had to. I feel like that's very me. Totally. Yeah. Oh, for sure you could. I could see you as Alan for sure.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I love the outfit. I wonder if they sell those costumes. Alan costumes. They should. I really like the little white pants and the little pose shirt. Oh, wait. The white pants. Remember in like when he was in the dance scene?
Starting point is 00:00:57 Oh, the disco one. Yeah. Oh, that is my favorite. The disco scene. I love it. Yeah. Yes. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I think they should make a costume. They made weird Barbie costumes. I'm pretty sure they're probably making an Alan costume. Yeah. They had so many Ken ones out there. It's time for Alan. It does suck how many I love it. I think they should make a costume. They made weird Barbie costumes, so I'm pretty sure they're probably making an Allen costume. Yeah. They had so many Ken ones out there. It's time for Allen. It does suck how many people love Ken. Like, everyone is just like, Ken is the star of the film.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And it's like, it is. We talked about it. We can't forget about Barbie. Yeah. Like, but the woman, the movie about feminism and women empowerment is like, we love the Ken song. I see. You can't escape it.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You can't escape the patriarchy. It's so sad. That is so true. Because I'm one of those people, too. I'm like, God, Ken is the vibe. It's so annoying. That Ryan Gloss thing was just too charming. Barbie's on streaming now or digital now too.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Oh my God. Okay, sponsor. On the platforms? It's not streaming. I either buy it like the 20s. Yeah. Is that how you say it? Voodoo?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yeah, the V-U. V-U-D-U. Yeah. I never know. We do buy our stuff on Voodoo. We've been watching a lot of Tim Allen movies. So we've been buying them for like $3.99. Sometimes you gotta, yeah. Expensive though for like movies from like the-U. Yeah. I think so. We do buy our stuff on Vudu. We've been watching a lot of Tim Allen movies, so we've been buying them for like $3.99. Sometimes you gotta, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Expensive though for like movies from like the 90s. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, these are kind of everything. We watch a lot of Home Improvement now too every night. We watch it on Disney+. It's just a wholesome family show. I really would love Tim Allen on this podcast. I know he's a little controversial in his political beliefs.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Maybe, I don't know. I think he might be conservative, but that's okay, right? I don't know. As long as it's not like extremist as we'll get into with like the eight passengers but oh well was that political or is that just crazy she's both i think well she's like a super conservative yeah yeah conservatives there's some that are i think it's like anything like the ones at the forefront give it a bad name yeah you know like the ben shapiros and stuff like that but like arcandas owens but i think like i think tim might be like
Starting point is 00:02:24 i think he's pretty like mid maybe i don't know i think he's kind of mid because he's talked about like i don't know what happened january 6th something happened january 6th and he's like you don't know i know it's something like they stormed the capital yes okay they started the capital i still don't know like who's the right all i know is the conservatives are in the wrong but tim allen even spoke up against the conservatives that's a good sign yeah he's like i don't like this it shouldn't have happened so that's like okay he's not a matte level yeah yeah, he's like, I don't like this. It shouldn't have happened. So that was like, okay, he's not. A Matt level. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah. And he's, we haven't seen the Santa Claus. We're seeing that for Christmas time, but we've watched every single Tim Allen movie, even the crazy one, like Joe, somebody, which was actually like horrible, but all the others movies are. And so we've been watching all of them. He just seems like such a wholesome dad on home improvement. Like I just, I love him so much.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Do you know anything about him? I don't, I only seen the Santa Claus. That's like the only thing. That's the only one we haven't seen. Maybe I've seen an episode or two of Home Improvement. Maybe. It's on Disney Plus, which is random. But it's like featured on Disney Plus.
Starting point is 00:03:10 That is really random. Yeah. It was on when I was a kid. So it gives me like nostalgia watching this. And I'm very into it. Yeah. Yeah. He's 70.
Starting point is 00:03:18 He looks so good. He's just on Jay Leno's show. He looks so good for 70. He's on a, Jay Leno's like, what does Jay Leno have? Yeah, Jay Leno has like a car show oh my god this is like straight man news yeah he has like a show where he talks about cars straight man news straight intro no so straight speaking of straight you look like someone said this is the last episode that you look like the male version of shrek like when he's a handsome human
Starting point is 00:03:38 i've heard that a couple times actually they tell me i look like fiona but the ogre version not the cameron diaz pretty one so at least you get the handsome Shrek. So this is very giving Shrek handsome. Hello, traveler. Let's hear it. I've been practicing. Kind of like you. You use about six accents when you do your traveling, your little videos.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So I think I kind of, I have a Trish scent as well. I have a Trish scent. It's a mix of accents. I see you've got a dragon's egg. Or is that a goose egg you've got? Oh, I've got a goose egg. Got it from me daughter, I did, when she knocked me on the head. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:04:11 She's nothing but a tyke. I don't know the accents either. I'm so bad. I know. Let's do another one. I love it. I took a sip of ye pink potion. And it made me knees like jelly, old wiggly jelly or wiggly well that's weird i wanted
Starting point is 00:04:30 it to kill you i did should i have been here it should be just trish not just trish and ye shrek but the cute version not the yoga can't be mean it's 2023 we don't boy shame this is my favorite thing in the world like i think i could do it like a whole podcast if i was just i have to find a pink version of it though i'm on my pink theme so i cannot let it go um but we could do a whole tiktok i was like we gotta get one for moses i got a little fairy costume for malibu i want her to be my little i am like so invested like i need to know the plot i want to know more like background characters i can't wait to see where it goes it's like i'm tuned in sat for the game of thrones house of the dragon like it's that level i'm shook okay i'm so shook by it first of all it's like my favorite thing to watch on tiktok
Starting point is 00:05:11 like i love it and anyone can tell you i mean honestly i can't get the pictures probably fast enough for the edit but i used to go to medieval times every single year for my birthday with my dad like i literally if you go to my dad's house there's just like medieval time pictures like i love that era i love everything about it and then on tiktok i've been just seeing the tavern ones yeah and i'm like i want to do this and i've been waiting for so long i kept telling moses like can you like build me something cool like this and um he's like yeah yeah yeah but you know we were building sets and we're building another set there's all this stuff he's like well when we're done building the sets and i'll do a little tavern for you but now that they took off he's like okay i can go upstairs and
Starting point is 00:05:41 build this and we have the perfect little nook in my office upstairs it's like a little like kitchenette and it's just like the perfect thing like you put the table so he's like, okay, I can go upstairs and build this. And we have the perfect little nook in my office upstairs. It's like a little like kitchenette. And it's just like the perfect thing. Like you put the table. So he's like building me a little tavern. Right now we just did it on the kitchen. The first one got 4 million views. And I was like, this is very odd, but I love that people love it.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I don't know the plot either. I have sent it to so many people and everyone's like very, very invested. No pressure, but like, yeah, people are tuned in to Trish Tavern Talk. It's like my, it's literally my favorite thing in the world. Trish Tavern Talk, I like it. Yeah. It's like, it's pretty incredible. Like I said, it's like the accents and then your acting is like award worthy. I have to say.
Starting point is 00:06:11 No, really? Yes, yes, yes. He says, when you're polishing the table. With not even a cloth. That's some real acting. I made you believe it. I know he was going to put it on a roller cart and I'm like, but I can't wipe it down if it's on a roller cart. It's going to move. I'm like, I need it to be stationary. I'm very, I take it very seriously. Thank you for saying, I love acting. I'm like, but I can't wipe it down if it's on a roller cart. It's going to move. I'm like, I need it to be stationary. I take it very seriously. Thank you for saying that. I love acting. My dream is to be in a medieval movie, but I never looked the part.
Starting point is 00:06:33 But now I think I do. Now I don't look as fake and artificial. I think I could be in it. Especially back then they had the busty bosom, big ladies. Yes. I think you totally could. I mean, you also really sell that outfit too they should like it was it where is it from we have this i think amazon oh i thought yours was
Starting point is 00:06:50 like dolls killer or something they don't make my size dolls kill okay they do have plus size but they never have the cute plus size costume there's a really cute purple fairy costume on there now because i wanted to be a fairy in one of the you know change it up be an elf or something and they don't make it in plus size they make like snow white plus size, but she's in like a dress down to her knees. I'm like, what is with that? So there's very few places that sell plus size. And if they do, usually it's like sexy lingerie. But this was a plus size one.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's on Amazon. Put my Amazon affiliate link for the code. We don't have a sponsor. I make no money off Amazon affiliate. Everyone is saying they make like $100,000. I've made $20 like for real. And I sell stuff. I get like three cents every time I sell something.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It's crazy. So if you want the traveler costume in plus size, I'll put it as me. Or this tavern man costume. Yeah, for both. This one's good. This is a medium. So okay, good for you. Okay, medium.
Starting point is 00:07:33 You're like, I don't know if I'm going to fit. I was worried. This was the only one that would get here overnight. And I was like, I'm going to manifest. To me, it's like, I don't know if you're the same, but like I will buy clothes and I don't try them on like in the store. I just like think that it'll fit. And it's all the power of like manifestation, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:47 If it fit, if you think it'll fit, it will fit. That's how we were with the set too. We were like, we know we built two chairs before we even had a guest. And he's like, and I was like, if you build it and they will come. And I was like, you're right. And they did. We have some banger guests. So we're building a second set for another podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And like, it is talked about, but it hasn't been like solidified yet, but we're just building the set. We're like, it's just going to happen. As soon as we build a set that we're going to make it happen. So I think it's going to work. There's like a co-host for that one. I mean, we'll have you as a co-host. We'll have you for everything.
Starting point is 00:08:12 You're full time just Trish soon, hopefully. You know what I mean? But yeah, I'm a powerful manifester. I think if it fits, it'll fit. Honestly, you look great. Which do you like more? Do you like the compliment that you look like human Shrek or Jack Attenoff? i think i kind of like human shrek more though i think because he's more like strapping i think totally and i'm kind of like into that look i think i've never seen shrek i
Starting point is 00:08:32 did look up human shrek when people said that i'm like i don't know what he looks like like i knew shrek ogre but i didn't know shrek human and he was yeah i had to like look it up because i'm like i'm like on a like tinder like a long time ago like on a tinder date and someone said that and at first it was like okay okay, it's over. But then when I went home and looked it up, I was like, okay, I kind of see the vision, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think it's cute. I don't know why everyone looks like a Shrek character.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I remember like there's a character. I don't know if it's from Shrek. Shane used to get like grumple stilt skin or something. Oh, he like knew it and he would use it as like a thumbnail. Like I don't think it's a bad thing. But I was like, why does everyone compare someone from Shrek? Oh my God. I guess I could see or lord farquaad gets compared to people a lot there's a oh there's a guy on tiktok moses knows about this one i'm not
Starting point is 00:09:11 really into young guys in general i like over 40 but there's this guy on tiktok i love his girlfriend too let me just preface her name is kirby i actually don't even know his name so that shows that i'm more of a fan of the girlfriend than him he was in a movie called tall girl do you know his name um oh that guy yes yes yes you know him? Yes, yes, yes, yes. I remember him now. I was thinking the short boy that likes Tall Girl when he said Tall Girl. Oh, no, he's the tall boy. Yeah, he's the tall boy.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And he does have a tall girl in real life. I love them. I would love them on the podcast. But everyone, yeah, everyone looks like Shrek. I guess, and people told me I look like Fiona Shrek when she's Shrek, when she's an ogre. No, I do Cameron Diaz vibes. No, I do not look like Cameron. Yeah, you do. I was just saying I look like Fiona Shrek when she's Shrek, when she's an ogre. No, I see Cameron Diaz vibes. I do not look like Cameron Diaz. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:09:47 That's like Moses saying I look like Ariana Grande. No, I see it. But there was also, there was like this, a fake tweet like happened over the weekend where someone said I just seen was Cameron Diaz's cousin and I believed it. Oh, I could see that. Right? Yeah. But I could also see you, like maybe you, I just seen Cameron Diaz.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I do not look like Cameron Diaz. I i look like i'm doing this tiktok today i look like um kimberly lock that's one everyone says i look like her and i do i have my it's my phone's in the other room because it's charging but that blew my mind i totally see that kimberly lock i can't i and i looked at her and moses saw me saving the photos like what are you doing because he knew i was doing i thought i was like what i don't know and i saw a tiktok that like, if you saw, oh, oh, I know what, I know what spark this. It's like, if you saw a person of a different race look like you, would you recognize that that's your doppelganger? But they were a different race because they say Meryl Streep looks like Future.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Have you seen that one? No, I have not seen that one. I think that's the rapper. I think it's Future. And they do look so similar. It's like viral right now on Tik TOK. Like it wasn't even my notes. I was like something. So I was going to stitch it. And then when I was like, what are you doing? I was like, wait, I don't know. I don't want people
Starting point is 00:10:51 to ever take like offense, but I think Kimberly Locker is so pretty, but I don't want people to think like, I'm trying to like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. People get offended over everything, but I do think she's so pretty. But on that note too, there's another one I used to get when I was littler. Um, she's grown Tisha Campbell-Martin, do you know her? Yeah. Yeah, I used to get her. Because she was on a show called My Wife and Kids when I was, like, in middle school or high school.
Starting point is 00:11:09 And everyone's like, you look like Tisha Campbell-Martin. And she was also on Little Top of Horrors. And I think she's pretty, too. So I always think that's interesting. Which is another reason we got you to 23andMe. Please sponsor us, 23andMe. Oh, yeah. We really do have to.
Starting point is 00:11:17 We have to get to the bottom of it. I think so. I don't know what it is. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I've just been playing my whole life. So I like to channel, like, anyone with, like, you know, cuteness or anything like that, but, like, today is my Karol G moment, and I am just like, and literally, I was like, I kind of feel like I look like her a little bit,
Starting point is 00:11:30 but then I was also like, not at all. I love Karol G. She's, like, selling out. Last night, she sold out 65,000 people in Dallas, and I'm like, wow, it's amazing. She's so great. And her, like, I've seen photos of, like, her sets and stuff, and they're all, like, girly and fun and pink and, like, so pretty. Yeah, she did a Barbie song. I was, this morning, we were listening to, it's a new one's new when i heard well it's not new but it's new to me me
Starting point is 00:11:47 ex tenia raison my ex has a reason and i was like listening to i was like this is such a vibe also like dispo um with miko and then there's another one too i think it's carol g it's like mammy i don't know it's just a vibe i don't like i don't speak spanish so it's like hard for me to like but i love the music like we listen in the morning i'm just like yeah so good and then they just have such cute vibes like cali which she has the vibe it's just like i don I don't like, I don't speak Spanish. So it's like hard for me to like, but I love the music. Like we listened in the morning and I'm just like, yeah, so good. And then they just have such cute vibes. Like Callie, when she has the vibe, it's just like, I don't know. I've always liked Latina girls. They're just like glam. Like, do you remember Susha? No. I don't know why. Is she a singer? No, she was a, well, I don't know. She might've been something before Talk Show Host. She was like the Latina Oprah. Oh. And she would come out and
Starting point is 00:12:19 was like, shoo, shoo, shoo, shah, shah, shah. And she was glam. She always had like these crazy outfits on and i just love them like i just i i don't know like selena too i just like love like the glam of it all you know yeah i love it so much or the quinceanera dresses i don't know anyways i was i was always so mad i couldn't have a quinceanera were you ever in one were you ever like one of the presenters do you think it's because you don't speak spanish like do you know what i mean i don't know like i don't want to sound offensive but you don't know what i mean I mean? I don't know. Like, I don't want to sound offensive, but you know what I mean? Like, maybe they, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I don't know. If it's offensive, you can talk. Yeah. If they don't let the gringo in the quinceañera. Right. Do you think maybe? I would love to sing
Starting point is 00:12:53 in a quinceañera. I would like, amor prohibido tu alzón. I would learn, actually, I have a Spanish song, so freaky,
Starting point is 00:13:00 I could perform. I forgot it already. I forgot it already. Quiero un freak. Your accent is pretty good though. I do have to say. Thank you. That was so good.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I'm not even kidding. Thank you. I would say I'd perform at a quinceanera. That would be amazing. Or a bar mitzvah because I also speak Hebrew too. So I sing in Hebrew too. Like what's the one I know? Bli en haki ga ga ga.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Bli, bli, bli, bli, u ga ga ga. Yesh liyam hu lere ez omezi ba. Mija, mija, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. Wow. Thank you. I'm available for bar mitzvahs and can dance. But no sweet 16s. Although I guess I could be like, sweet 16, gonna spread my wings.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Oh, you can perform at the sweet 16. My chance to shine the sweet 16. My chance to shine, sweet 16. Discovering so much more to life, sweet 16. I wonder how much it would cost to get Hilary Duff at a sweet 16. Well, her show got canceled, so maybe it's a little bit cheaper now. I feel like she's bawling. I just love how she just doesn't care about anything at all.
Starting point is 00:14:03 She does not care. She really isn't a DGAP fan. She has the Lizzie McGuire money and that's all. Yeah. Unless you invest. I always think if people invest in houses when they're young, maybe she bought a house or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Because that goes up, right? Someone just sold their house. They bought it for $3 million and just sold it for $8 million. I was like, damn, I really should have invested earlier in a house. I mean, I probably couldn't. I spent all my money, but it's a good investment. I didn't realize they go up in money. But music videos were more fun than real estate much more fun so it's like yeah i would
Starting point is 00:14:28 love to do another iconic because they've all become like a lot of them become memes a lot of them become pop cultural history so that's like really more important right that's i agree with that i know i really want to sell my catalog i heard i think it was who was going to say Scottie Sire. I was like, he's kind of, I don't know. I think I'm a little, I don't know. He sold his catalog? He sold his catalog for 1.5 million. What?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. I think he was on a podcast. Oh, my God. Why am I admitting this? I saw a podcast talking about this. I don't follow them. But for some reason, he pops up on my thing. That's pretty good. I mean, for.
Starting point is 00:15:04 That's so good. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't follow them but for some reason he like pops up on my thing and that's pretty good I mean for so good yeah because I mean I don't know I don't want he's really he's always been nice so I'm like I don't want to say it but yeah he is nice of all the people he was nice until he like defended David and he's like he's a good person he went through this and I was like uh okay but he was always really nice to me too so I'm hesitant to say anything but right let's sell it like one that's a lot of money no one's offer that's me i got maybe a hundred thousand offer for one song my love you geez but i was like even if i sold my catalog for 1.5 million it still would only cover like 10 of my music videos i need like 20 million i mean i remember the one time that was like really gagged at your music videos when you
Starting point is 00:15:37 had the universal like backlog like that was that was like 250 000 that's expensive that's why they shoot like movies yeah no. No, for real. And like you had to get like a, like we had a water thing. So you had to get like the fire department there. Like you had to hire all these people. It was like a whole thing. I don't know what I was doing back then
Starting point is 00:15:53 that I made so much money. Cause that was like 2017. That was before the vlogs. I don't know. I don't know what I was doing. I think YouTube was just paying well back then. And yeah, that was, it was good.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Because at the time I had nothing and no one to like live for. So I was just like, let me just spend all this money on. And like make your dreams come true. Yeah. Yeah. Like literally, I don't know if people get it.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Like the backlog is like Christopher Nolan shot, like shoots movies there. No, for sure. For like context. It's like actually insane. No, it's like Steven Spielberg, all the stuff on the tour. It was worth it though for the tour to go by. And like I gave a little wave. It was so worth it.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Andrew Valentine was my director for all those music videos. He does a lot of gay friendly films. I have yet to see them. I want to see them. I literally DM him because they play at festivals and stuff. Anyways, he's doing great things. I love Andrew Valentine more than anything. And I always love gay everything. You know what I mean? The gayer the better. Amen, sister. Just so random.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Wait, what were we talking about? We were talking about Sweet City. I don't know. We just fell on this little tangent. That's our intro. Oh, Scottie's like, well, how much does Justin Bieber sell his for? Because I remember when that happened, I was like, God, I don't know. We just got on this little tangent. That's not intro. Oh, Scott is like, well, how much does Justin Bieber sell his for? Because I remember when that happened, I was like, God, I really want to sell my catalog if anyone wants to buy it. But I need at least 20 million because my music videos were 10. And then I can make more music.
Starting point is 00:16:53 200 million is what he sold his catalog for. Honestly, you would think there would be more. I know, right? Right? Because I mean. I mean, Yummy was not a hit. He wasn't happy about it? How do you know?
Starting point is 00:17:03 There's a lot of TikTokiktoks now about um he scooter like oh yeah oh right everyone are dumping him and and one of the things they said with justin he wasn't happy about that deal no one's happy with scooters that's the one that taylor was against right yeah he bought all her even scooter tweeted that he's dropping himself it was a joke i hate when people do that it's like you're the evil one don't make a joke you're the one that's doing all this. He's trying to kill the meme by stop. I don't know. I don't know him.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I don't like him. Justin Bieber's is $200 million. Yeah, I feel like at least you need that. Yeah. Let's make it $25. Bump it up a little bit. Okay, I would do $15 million. So $10 million could pay back the music video.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And then I could pay the next $5 million for music. I would put it back into my music. I love making music. I want to do a Bollywood one. I have so many ideas. I want to do Sad Boy 3. I have a lot of cute pop songs I want to do. I want to do one for my baby. I want to do like a birthday one. You know, I wanted to do one for her before she was born, very Britney Spears, but they're just so expensive. And I'm selling these Birkins. By the way, I mean, I have to give a huge shout out because this is, I saw this minutes before
Starting point is 00:17:59 filming this podcast, Matthew Stevens on TikTok. It had 63,000 likes, which is crazy because I had like 400,000 views, but it was just just I was scrolling my for you page literal moments before you got here and then I made a TikTok to react to it okay so if you follow me on social media I have been I've been really pushing my bags and shoes and I'm sure people are like is she okay like I know I look crazy I look like a crazy person like trying to sell my whole life away um okay so I I don't even know if I even talked about this so there's's these boots I wanted, these Givenchy boots. Did I talk about it? I saw this TikTok.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You did? I did see this. Yeah. Yes. Okay. But did I ever mention this? Because I'm like, how did he know? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You must have. And when you were saying what you were going to sell for, you must have mentioned. I swear I just said shoes. Here's why. One, these boots are really hard to come by. They make them wide calf. So my size in wide calf, there's two in the United States right now. And so I was just like, I don't want to tell anyone because like, what if they go buy my size in wide calf there's two in the united states right now and so i was just like i don't want to tell anyone because like what if they go buy my size you know oh if you want to buy
Starting point is 00:18:48 my size it's 38 wide calf so but um i didn't want to tell anyone and i also was just like oh i don't i'm not i don't care people copy me once i have it i don't want to look like i'm copying someone so if i thought oh i want this then someone else goes and buys it and then it looks like i'm copying them so we'll put this out it's like the elvis name like we'll put this out i want these jivanshi shark boots that are pink crystals they are crazy and I wasn't gonna mention it because it is so lavish too like they're like they're really expensive they're really expensive they're more than I thought because I this is my first time telling Moses too oh no one I was like why are you so hesitant because I swear when I told you I really did think this was the amount but that
Starting point is 00:19:21 was the amount for the purse and I was like oh no and then moses was kind of on board because there's like a special event we're doing soon and he's like well you should and he's you know he's very like we need to first of all we have to pay off like past we're still paying off our wedding we're still paying off so much shit so it's like yes we have to pay off things on top of that like you know we should probably save some money and moses is like a saver so you know all the stuff like that so he helps and granted i love it because he helps me because honestly i would be so broke. You know what I mean? He does help me with this. So I appreciate when he's like rational with me, but, um, but I was like, I just really want these. They just speak my name. So I told him and it was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:53 there, I was like, Oh, the $3,000. He's like, okay, well, you know what? There's a special event coming up. Like you should buy them for that. Like, you know what I mean? And so I was like, okay. And then, but, but, but I've been selling a lot of posh. I've been selling a lot of posh, all this stuff like that. Anyways, there's $6,800. With tax, there's over $7,000. I expected a lot worse, I think. Oh, did you? I think because you were so hesitant that I was like, oh my God, this must be like $10,000. $20,000, like a Birkin.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Never will I ever spend $20,000 on anything again. Like my Birkin that I'm trying to sell now, I spent $48,000 on. See, like that's kind of the, like that's a threshold for like where I expect you to be when you're saying something's quite crazy. Yeah. My crazy now is different than my crazy back in 2020 when I was just balling, just making way too much money. Now I'm making way too much money.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'm buying houses. Like I don't know what I, again, this was like when Moses was very new to my life. So he wasn't telling me about my finances or anything like that. I wish, you know, thank God we bought this house with that money. Cause honestly I'd probably have spent all of that. Both of us, by the way. I should always like clarify that. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Like when I met Moses, I wasn't making a lot of money, but I was spending all of it. Birkins, Rolexes, like I was spent all of that. Both of us, by the way. Actually, I always like clarify that. Seriously, like when I met Moses, I was making a lot of money, but I was spending all of it. Birkins, Rolexes, like I was spending all of it. So when we talked about getting a house together, like he had so much in savings that I was like and luckily I was making a lot. So my monthly I was able to like put down to a down payment so I didn't look like I was this broke bitch, which I kind of was, you know, but he had the same amount so we matched
Starting point is 00:21:00 it perfectly. So anyways, I like to just reiterate. One day I'll just, anyways, I like to reiterate that because people just really think like I bought this whole house on one hand people think i'm broke and i always rent in the other hand they think i paid for everything about this whole house which whatever so he helped me with that you know get a house because again i told talk about this before i always thought buying a house might need to four million did we talk about this no like i thought if you had a four million dollar house you had to put had four million your bank account so i just was like i'm never gonna save that much at one time so
Starting point is 00:21:22 screw it yeah so i didn't know percentages, any of that stuff like that. And there's no way I would have been able to afford this house had he not saved all his money. Anyways, back to the boots. So I, but again, I didn't talk about these because one, they're really lavish. I don't want to be that person either, especially because like people always think we're like so balling. And here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:38 There's been times when I make so much. There's times when I don't, you know, but I'm always good. The search bar of this TikTok said Trisha Paytas broke. So I had to make a TikTok reacting to be like, don worry guys it's okay like you don't have to like now I kind of felt bad people are like fundraising for me um it's just like damn uh which is very very sweet and like the sentiment of the video was like actually the sweetest it was like a 10 minute long video it was so sweet it was this guy's Matthew Stevens he was Mariah Carey's assistant for a couple years then he had a year of like depression he said you know Tricia was like my best friend in my head. She like helped me
Starting point is 00:22:06 through so much. Like just her videos were consistent and like my life was very inconsistent. And so he, now he's doing well. He has like his own company. It's called like Illusion Bronze. And it's very cool. It's like self-tanner based on your hair color, eye color, and like skin color. So they like, he mixes it. It's very cool. Um, and I love self-tanner and he was talking about the girls that go to CVS and I'm like, that's me. I do my Juergens, whatever. So it actually is like a great product. So on one hand, it was just like, it was just the sweetest video. It was just so sweet.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So he was just like, you know, I really want to buy her these boots, but I don't have the money. So like, you know, why don't we all, like if you buy 130 bottles of my Tanner, which I'm like, this is also really good marketing. But I was like, you know, anyways, but the video was like so sweet. It was actually so sweet. He's like, you know, 130 bottles and I can buy her the boots and maybe she'll like have me on the podcast or something like that.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And I can like present her the boots. So I did my, I did a TikTok response. I want to say it here. Literally the nicest TikTok ever. Like the sentiment was so sweet. Like the words were so sweet. You know, when I make my videos, I never think of like help, like they're helping anyone. I think they're just so silly.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just, it was like touched my heart to like know that like during an era of depression for you, like, you know, I was able to like keep you company. And as I said in my TikTok, like for me, I made those videos cause I was so lonely. I was so depressed. I was constantly making videos because I was just lonely. I had no one to eat with. I had no one to talk to. So I continued to do those even on my main channel, which is a flop compared to this channel, but I do it for the 30,000 people because you know what those people they they probably feel the same way like they don't have anything to watch or anyone talk to or eat with and so I keep making those so there's moments now that I have a great husband that I can eat every meal with I have to be like
Starting point is 00:23:33 okay I gotta go out I'm gonna eat fast food with my viewers you know I want them to feel that one on one connection because like it means a lot so I was expecting to go to the comments of that TikTok I had 63,000 likes and a ton of comments I was talking to the comments and be like why are you doing this like why are we giving you know it's like going to the comments of that TikTok. I had 6,000 likes and a ton of comments. I was expecting the comments to be like, why are you doing this? Like, why are we giving, you know, it's like when I do the MPC thing and people like are tipping me a dollar. Why are you tipping a millionaire a dollar first? So I'm going to hustle for that dollar. That's why I do those MPC things. I will hustle all day long for what I want. Um, but the comments were so nice. Like they're like, Trisha has gotten me like through so much and like so many hard times. She's like the friend
Starting point is 00:24:00 in my head. She like, you know, goes through, she's so relatable. She talks about things openly and honestly. And I was just like, not to like toot my own horn, but I mean, for so long, I felt so down about myself and I feel like I've just only put out negativity and like everyone hates me. And so like to read that, I was like, and then he also said something like the past three years, she's shown like a lot of growth. I'm like, oh my God, someone recognizes like, you know, cause so many people are like, she hasn't changed. She's the same. And it can be hard to hear, but it's like, you know, I just keep going for me, obviously changing for my husband and my daughter and stuff like that. But it was just so nice.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It was like the nicest TikTok ever. Matthew Stevens, if you want to come on the podcast, I don't know where you're at. If you're in LA, please come on next week. I would love to have you on. Talk about your illusion bronzer. Talk about this. And any money that is raised, if you want, we can donate to like a charity. I think that's literally so nice.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I don't know what charity. Maybe Maui. We'll call Oprah and The Rock up and donate to Maui or just donate directly. But there is, there is something there. So I think he did say, I don't know. I saw a comment. He sold 30 bottles already. He's like a hundred more to go. So if by any chance we do raise that money and you want to, um, if you're down, Matthew, if you want to donate that money, we can do it together here on the podcast. Come on, talk about your bronzer. We'll donate it to a good cause. I thought it was literally the sweetest thing in that fact. So many people were like, I'm buying a bottle to support this. It was so nice and I appreciate it
Starting point is 00:25:12 more than anything. And I'm going to still be peddling my Chanel bags and Birkins to get these boots. We will get them. We will manifest them, but we'll also donate whatever if you're down or you can keep the money, honestly, like either way, or I'll just buy a bunch of bronzers from you, which I will. I think it's amazing so illusion bronze matthew stevens it touched my heart in so many ways like you don't even know like i was like about to cry this morning if i didn't have my glam i had a king padashia moment where i was like i'd cry but my glam looks so good but seriously my eyes were like tearing up the comments made me like 63 000 likes on it too and i was like and he like raised money for like a lyft driver like with who had like breast
Starting point is 00:25:44 cancer he raised 25 i was like god this is like a guard for like a Lyft driver. Oh, yeah. With who had like breast cancer. He raised $25,000. I was like, God, this is like a, this is like an angel on Earth. So the fact that he wanted to raise money for the Givenchy boots, I don't even know how he knew the ones I wanted. I'm still shook by it. I'm like, I really remember being so careful not to mention anything. But now that we're talking about it, if I do get these boots, which I will, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:00 because I have a lot of inquiries. I got to just get back to the emails. But when I get the boots, I'm going to wear them like every episode of paris hilton everybody paris has the boots so i'm just gonna like wear them every episode and make the money off this way but very sweet i was it was very nice and i hope you guys do buy the product it looks great and you know hopefully you can raise some money for charity elision bronze check it out that is very sweet it's a good i did see it yeah i was like oh that's what tell me it was like very like, that's so funny. What? Tell me. It was like very like, you know, like we will survive. It was kind of like. Very much like, join me.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Together we can do it. Yeah. I'll put your name on the card. I'll present them to her. Like seriously. Together we can get Trisha the booze. It was like, it was so sweet. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I mean, I do understand there's like literally people like dying out there, you know? So we'll donate it to something for sure if you're down and you can come on the podcast. And I just thought it was so amazing and so sweet. And I was just like, oh, my God. It was nice. I don't know. Nice people are nice. And at the end, he's just very much like, he's like, you know, I just want to do good
Starting point is 00:26:52 things for good people. It's so sweet. Get those 7,000 G Bunchy. We'll get them. He's a manifestor. I'm a manifestor. We're going to get them. I visualize them.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I see them. But I'm going to have to get them sooner than later because now that this is out, there's only two pairs of my size. I'm going to buy them up and upcharge you. Somebody will, huh? So, yeah. All right. We'll see what we got on the credit cards.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Continue to max. No. Investment. Yeah. We, you know, I'm killing it on Posh, you know. $100 here and there, it goes a long way. And we're going to, we're going to save up for it. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I did see, was it your Instagram story where you had like everything you were shipping out? I was like, oh my God. Yeah. Like Trish Studios, Trish shipping facility. My mom is the Jess Trish Warehouse. She ships out probably like 50 to like 60 packages a day. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Some of the stuff we sell is like really cheap, like, you know, $20 or something like that. And then there's some high ticket items in there and stuff. I know it looks like I'm selling my whole closet. Don't be sad for me. My daughter's birthday is coming up. We're doing something extravagant for that. So, you know, I just like to hustle. So my rationale is this, is like, I do feel like
Starting point is 00:27:47 now that I have a family, it is so irresponsible for me to go like buy $7,000 boots when I'm not making that, you know? So I think if we were making like a lot again, it would not be an issue, but, um, you know, your priorities shift. But this is one thing that I'm like, I love. And then I did see the bag. So I was like, Oh, I kind of want the bag too. But that's like, that's like $10,000. I don't know. Anyways, buy my Birkin. Someone out there who has like so much money that does not care. Please buy my Birkin or my Chanel. You can email me and check it out on my thing.
Starting point is 00:28:11 But yeah, anyways, that is literally just like, who cares? First world problems. But it was so nice. I sent it to everyone. I sent it to my husband. I sent it to everyone. Now there's a story behind it. Now there's like a reason to get these boots so we can all be like, we did it.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Now you have to do it. Yeah. For the people. it's not just for you anymore it's for the people yeah and now we're doing this podcast you know i think i have to do like 10 episodes and i could pay them off so you know yeah something like that i don't know when the ads start coming in yeah so we don't have one this week but sponsor go look at blissy and manscaped my last videos and check it out um So yeah, that was really great. And thanks for the manifest. We haven't even gotten to the hot topics, but thank you for the manifesting on that. And I also was saying I manifested you, by the way. I was going to say this earlier too. This was not on my notes. But when we were talking about watching you on Strawberry, I was like, oh my, I feel like we manifested you so long ago
Starting point is 00:29:02 because you are such a star and a treasure of this show. So I was like, I really feel like watching that so many years ago. I remember we'd watch Strawberry 17 and then like we'd see you and we're like, what is he doing there? He's so like talented and does so much. Like he's like everything. And then now you're here. And thank you, Strawberry, for discovering him. Megan Carrera.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Is that her name? Megan Carrera. Megan Carrera. We love her. I'm like, she knew. She knew the talent, the start, the quality of Oscar. Megan Camarena. Megan Cameria. We love her. I'm like she knew. She knew the talent the start and quality of Asuka. It's always like a pinch meme
Starting point is 00:29:27 every time I hear it I'm just like it just feels so right. You know? I love it more than anything in the world. I'm just editing it I'll be up all night editing
Starting point is 00:29:35 but I love it. You know what I mean? You really do. You work so hard which is another reason we need to start getting more ads. No it's actually doing so well.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I'm so grateful for this because we need to full time this all the time. It's the best. I really am. And I'm glad everyone else like gets the vibe. Because I feel like our vibe in here between the three of us is so like light and positive. And I'm glad that other people pick up.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah. Yeah. I always want that to be the case because I've always loved you. I've always want to work with you. And I'm just like so excited. It's the best. I love it. You make it what it is.
Starting point is 00:30:00 The editing, everything. I'm like, God, you really are like the superstar. I love that. Beginning is always us just being like, we're still happy.'re so thankful yeah no but it's so true it's so true we went and celebrated something last week we were like so excited to celebrate and then like so many things came this week to celebrate there's just like and we don't have a day to celebrate anymore we're like we're so busy we're like oh my god we're celebrating so much there's more to celebrate so last night we just ordered mastro's takeout because we were trying to celebrate
Starting point is 00:30:23 something but we didn't have time to go out so So we're like, we'll just order it. And it was great. And it's wonderful. And you should always have gratitude and be thankful in the moment. It feels good. It feels good. It feels good. It feels good.
Starting point is 00:30:32 The vibes are right. And Moses, thank you too for being you. I love you so much. Okay. This feels like I just won an award. I know. I don't even have the boots yet. What do you think about the price of those boots?
Starting point is 00:30:45 It's definitely not what we expect. It's double what we thought it is. I know. But the occasion, which we don't know yet, is kind of your dream come true. It's like my Cinderella moment. So it is an award. Right, right. It's an award.
Starting point is 00:30:59 This is like your Oscar award. Oh, yeah. Oscar. Right, okay. Put your Emmy back there. We'll put the Givenchy boots back here. But yeah, once people see when and where you wear them, they'll understand why. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:11 But maybe not the purse or maybe the purse. Just heard about it. I have to think about it. Process it. Please buy my rainbow Birkin. Then I can buy it. Please, please, please. I know.
Starting point is 00:31:20 You really need to sell that Birkin at JoJo. Like that really just makes the most sense. You know what? She DM'd me. She's like, I kind of love this. And I was like, but I feel so weird when, like, friends ask me because I'm like, do you just want it? Should I just give it to you?
Starting point is 00:31:29 Like, I feel weird. Good thing if she wanted to buy it. I feel so weird to, like, give her, here's my wire information, girl. Like, send me some money. I think she can. She kind of is. She's, like, in a Lamborghini and her things. I was like, oh my.
Starting point is 00:31:38 She's also everywhere. She's, like, on every canceled show that she was on the podcast. Like, she's on everything right now. So she can handle it. I think she would love it. It's very JoJo coded. It is. It is very JoJo coded.
Starting point is 00:31:48 When she DM'd me, I was like, girl, it's kind of you. It kind of is. JoJo Siwa hit me up. I mean, she does kill it. Damn. Will you rise with the sun
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Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah, you know, HomeSense always has a lot of great towels. Let me see that. Quick-dry? Will it dry quickly enough that I won't notice when you use my towel? Okay, that happened once. Maybe more than once. Anyways, these are only $13. $13?
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Starting point is 00:32:58 her birthday. We're filming this Monday. Tonight's her birthday. Oh, yeah. So I guess it's like a big show. Everyone, all my friends are going tonight. Now I understand why everyone fell in love for not going to renaissance tour everyone is at renaissance literally everyone yeah it actually looks fun like i you know i like i don't i'm not like a fan or a hater or anything i just don't know i don't listen to her music that much but she does look like she puts on a great show yeah she looks amazing so it's like visuals are crazy outfits are insane the choreography is wild like it looks like a spectacle. Yeah and she looks
Starting point is 00:33:26 like she changes outfits. I was talking to Moe's about this. Like she looks like she changes outfits for the same song every concert. Yeah. Like every I don't know what her like wardrobe is like backstage but it's like every she keeps mixing it up and it's kind of fun because like people will tweet oh this is what she wore today for this set. Yeah. No I think it's so cool because like the Blue Ivy one where she dances
Starting point is 00:33:42 with Blue Ivy like they always are in a different outfit and I was like do they have a different one for each show i was like it's not that expensive i was like okay but still that's like those costumes ain't cheap i especially i mean i guess if you're beyonce people are like throwing themselves like put you in their clothes so that also like makes a big difference that's true i mean gerard way did that he he was a different character each uh do you know gerard way yeah of course it makes it more fun especially like if you even if you're not there like to follow along and see like, oh, what are they weighing today? You know?
Starting point is 00:34:06 I had so much FOMO. My chemical performance toured when I was pregnant and I was just like, but by the time they got to the United States, I was literally nine months pregnant. I was like, oh man. And then when they got to LA, I just had my baby and I was so torn. I still to this day get really sad about that going. Supposedly they're going to be on tour with Fall Out Boy. I don't know if that's like true.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Cause I was like, they're never going to tour again. Cause that was the first tour in 20 years, but he wore a different outfit each show. And I was like, so, so sad. I was just like, man, I wish I could have been there to see him. I tried, but I didn't try really. I just sat at home. Yeah. There's no one I really would go out for except for them and maybe the weekend. But I was just saying this too, like the weekend, like how I love the weekend. I love the idol. It got canceled by the way. It broke right after we ended last time. He sells out, too. And I'm just like, but how good of a show can a solo male performer put on?
Starting point is 00:34:49 I know. I think that, too. I was in a rivalry with my coworker because he was, like, anti-Era's tour and pro, like, Drake's tour. Uh-huh. And then we had another coworker who was, like, neutral. She went to both. And she had to, like, you know, mediate. And she confirmed that Drake was, like, definitely lesser.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Because it was, like, one outfit the whole time. Like didn't have any changes. Oh, he didn't change. Didn't have an outfit change. Didn't have like a live band or dance or like choreography or anything. And it's just like if I'm going to like spend money and the effort to get to it, it's so much effort to go to a show. Like I want to be like in it. I want to be like amazed.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I want to be surprised. And like, I don't know. No one's really giving that besides like, you know, Taylor, Beyonce. Yeah. No, I, I think that too. I think on one hand, maybe that says a lot about the performer. Maybe they're just like so captivating that they don't need all that. Cause the weekend too, Abel, he is always in one outfit.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Cause we talked about maybe possibly doing Taylor Swift in the weekend for Halloween. I have to get like a pink version of his white outfit. I do love that little mask he was wearing all the tour. But like he kind of just stands there. But like maybe he's an amazing performer. His Super Bowl was good. There was a lot of like stuff happening. He won the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah. What year was that? He headlined? Damn. It was like 2021, I think. He might be in the Illuminati. How was he getting all this? I literally didn't know.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Meanwhile, he's like the number one artist. No. Okay. Can I? I literally didn't know. I was like the number one artist. Okay, can I say, Moses was playing, we were on like a road trip, we went like an hour and a half in the car and he was playing these songs and the only reason I was like, I asked halfway through, I was like, is this the weekend? Because I knew the, I can't feel my face, the one song I know. And he was playing it the whole time. I'm like, I really thought this was Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I thought it was like Michael Jackson, which is like everything. So I was like, I kind of get it. I mean, his vocals are everything and his acting skills are great. So I, you know, I kind of get it. I mean, his vocals are everything. And his acting skills are great. So I, you know, I'm not a hater on it. But maybe Abel can come on now that the Idol is canceled. Maybe we can talk about it. Or is it still The Strike?
Starting point is 00:36:32 I don't know. I guess he's an actor now. Music, if he wants to come over and promote his. Come on. We did just break a million views on our tan episode. So we could get you a million. Maybe. I love him. Where did we go on that? don't know oh beyonce beyonce um so i love i love watching all the tiktoks of beyonce i love seeing all the
Starting point is 00:36:52 celebrities at beyonce megan marco was there like okay girl um pedro pascal he was living he was living his best queen life i guess in one way it could just be maybe just open either way he's very gay friendly which we love that too so whether he's gay or gay friendly so he was on was it on sarah paulson's live yeah what do you think he felt about that do you think he's like goes with her he's like why why they're really good friends and she's she goes live at like all these different concerts and stuff um and she's gone live with him before i forgot what event but she does it like pretty often so i think he's kind of into it i think he thinks it's fun okay because she like there's such good friends that even like before pedro like blew up he was like broke and she that she would give him
Starting point is 00:37:34 money to like buy lunch like oh my god yeah who told the story him or her i think i think he did a while ago yeah like he you know they give you like a money a per diem like per day whatever so she would give her her per diem to to Pedro so he could like afford to. What were they on? What were they doing? I forget which show. It was a while ago. It was, he's been in Wonder Woman.
Starting point is 00:37:52 He's been in The Mandalorian. So it was like a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. We love Pedro Pascal. Who was the guy? Do we know? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:58 He was just like living his best life. I know. And I love that. I love it so much. Pedro Pascal is, I bet everybody just like loves him even more. You know what I mean? I've never heard like one bad thing about him. Right. And on Saturday Night Live he just has that like appeal. I don't know. He's very cute.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Can we get him on the podcast? Maybe actually. I feel like if we're such like a girly friendly space and I feel like he would like our vibes. Totally. I think that too. I feel like that. We have a really good guest next. We have so many good guests coming up but we have a really good guest this Thursday and his vibes were immaculate. He was just like I just feel comfortable here. I just love that. We have a really good guest next. We have so many good guests coming up, but we have a really good guest this Thursday and his vibes were immaculate. He was just like, I just feel comfortable here.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I just love it. Yeah. It's a safe space. Yeah. I love it. That's the vibe. It does get a little warm in here, but I think soon when it gets colder, it'll be fine. I don't know why it gets so hot in this movie room, but.
Starting point is 00:38:37 It was funny to see it. Like who else? Meghan Markle. That was the other one. I left everyone gagged. Meghan Markle and Prince Harry. Why were people gagged about it though? Like she's kind of everywhere, right? Meghan Markle kind of just is. I think mostly because Meghan Markle and Prince Harry why were people gagged about it though like she's kind of everywhere right
Starting point is 00:38:45 Meghan Markle kind of just is I think mostly because she was also with Prince Harry so it's like she was like dancing to like
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'm a diva I'm a diva and she was like making out with Prince Harry you didn't oh no where was she
Starting point is 00:38:55 making out with him on sorry I'm moving around it was like in their box or whatever at the concert right
Starting point is 00:39:00 but you're anti Meghan Markle so I know and I go back and forth like is that misogynistic I've told you like on the Julia Fox podcast they call me misogynistic because I didn't like Megan Markle.
Starting point is 00:39:08 So then I'm like, I need to defend every woman ever. But then I'm kind of like, but what if you just don't like a woman's vibe? Like, that's not misogynistic. I'm sure a lot of people don't like me. I don't think they're misogynistic. I'm just like, not their vibe, not their cup of tea. I go back and forth with it. I think it's okay to not like a woman.
Starting point is 00:39:20 No, it is okay to not like a woman. I don't think we need to harp on them. Like, I'm not going to be like, oh, Megan. Although I kind of was that for a minute. But like, you know, if she wants to live her life, whatever, you know, let her live her life. She did say she thought the Queen was like Medieval Times in their documentary. And I was just like, what?
Starting point is 00:39:32 Girl. Maybe she was trying to be like Jessica Simpson, like dumb and cute or something. I don't know. I have a soft spot for Meghan Markle. I don't know why. Do you? I like her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah. Have you read Harry's book? He was like, he's like, William and Kate were starstruck because they were such huge fans of Suits. Like, nobody is a huge fan of Suits. Yeah. Have you read Harry's book? He was like, he's like, William and Kate were starstruck because they were such huge fans of Suits. Like, nobody's a huge fan of Suits. No. Well,
Starting point is 00:39:49 now Suits like blew up. It's like the biggest show on Netflix right now. Like, but the old, is it back or is it the old episodes? Yeah. It's like the, it's such a bad show.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I don't watch it. That, what's the new one? Succession? Is that the one we watched? Oh. We watched like two episodes. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:04 what? People also like that one. I'm not, I'm not gay not getting for it we tried we tried to be on it i was like no not gagged i wasn't getting for gossip girl either i love you but i can't stand gossip the original gossip girl yeah but you tried watching it like recently for a season when um i think it was sick or something i just sat on the couch and watched gossip girl it was like okay but it's not like the vibe that everyone says it is i think if you watch it in the time like i haven't really revisited it but i like to just keep it in the memory of me being like in high school watching it and thinking it was like the greatest show in the world yeah yeah it is for sure because even something you did like holds up like home improvement i
Starting point is 00:40:37 really think holds up but um the gossip girl just dated i don't know like blair waldorf really i think was like my gay awakening though in a way yeah she was just so i mean i was also like 300 pounds like nerdy acne and like but she made me feel like i was like i could be that girl it was like aspirational blair's the brunette or the brunette yeah i like the blonde like lively yeah what's her name on the show serena serena yeah i like i i guess i like her she was like because she was like the real she was like the real model the other girl i just saw one episode where where the brunette was trying to model. And then the blonde was like, oh, I'm just here. I'm going to model too.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I don't know. Do you remember that episode? Yeah. They got in a fight over it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. The guy who plays Chuck Bass, is he supposed to be like this hot, hottie hot?
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah. No. That was like kind of a stretch. Chase Crawford can't do. Really? Anti-Chase Crawford? I'm anti-Chase Crawford. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yeah. Was he in lost was he the one in lost or did i get that mixed up with someone else were you thinking of ian summerholder okay yeah i do get them mixed up um love pen badgley even though i know he wouldn't like me at all but i love him so much and i love taylor momson so oh really yeah yeah it's a whole vibe okay i also do love taylor momson yeah she's great she was just on pen back yeah i know gosh i do love him i know how am i sitting am i do i look okay okay shoot cam we're just totally copying wendy williams do you think she'd care i don't think she would actually might she might call me like girl
Starting point is 00:41:54 no shoot cam just a zoom in just a zoom in okay thanks for the shoot cam yeah sound peter broskamp be on say yeah well we're not going damn we should put this out a day early maybe someone could have got his tickets i've already know all my glam people are going there even if you got tickets would you have gone no no exactly i don't like people i don't like a crowd like who would i go see i would go see i'd go see carol g for sure she was just at the rose bowl i missed out all my friends went too and i was like that's actually who I got this inspiration from. This jersey was being sold outside of the Karol G concert.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And a really good friend of mine went. And she had this on her story. And I was like, and I saw it this morning. And I was like, girl, I just copied you. But she's so cool. I was like, no, I love that you got it. You know? I love that in the previous segment, you literally just said you're scared of people thinking
Starting point is 00:42:39 you copy them. But meanwhile, like you cosplay like every episode. I know. I know. I know. We're just a cosplay episode. Well, no way Karol G is going to see this. I did DM her and ask her if she wanted to be on my podcast. But she has like 65 million followers. them but meanwhile like you cosplay like every i know i know we're just a cosplay episode well no way carol g's gonna see this i did dm her and ask her she wanted me on my podcast but she's like
Starting point is 00:42:48 65 million followers so maybe maybe she'll see it i love it she's she's iconic we love burning man should we talk about that yeah okay let's talk about burning man so we have a burning man expert here we'll bring in our yes we have our burning man resident i told him he should be doing a tiktok because tiktok burning man tikt blowing up. He's gone. How many years have you gone, babe? What's your Burning Man name? Is there a name for Burning Man? My name was Tricky B, Tricky Buddha. That, what? Yeah. That is not real, is it? All right. Okay. You look great. Now you look like Tricky Jesus. This is exactly what I look like in Burning Man. I love it. Okay. You look great. All right. So Burning Man happens. How many years have you gone to
Starting point is 00:43:23 Burning Man? Like five years. Five years in a row. You love it. Okay, you look great. All right. So Burning Man happens. How many years have you gone to Burning Man? Like five years. Five years in a row. You love it. First of all, when this was all happening, your first reaction was like, okay, so let's preface this. So Burning Man happened. What, 70,000 people were at Burning Man? Is that what they said?
Starting point is 00:43:34 No, yeah. There was 70,000 people. I just saw like Chris Rock and like Diplo get on a pickup truck. And they said they were walking out of Burning Man. I'm like, well. For miles. Yeah. Like six miles or something.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Like, where are you walking to? You didn come in walking why are you walking you're also vip like most of the time there's a whole okay so burning man he was like i want to go and i was like that sounds awful like being in the desert in the water he's like but there's like a vip burning man where if you're bougie maybe if i sell my burger and we can do this you can go and they'll like get your costume for you they'll get you waters right or what else do they do at the vip everything it's a huge stand like even costumes makeup everything is your costume for you. They'll get you waters, right? Or what else do they do at the VIP? Everything. It's a huge tent. Even costumes, makeup. Everything is catered for you.
Starting point is 00:44:09 A glam team on Burning Man, yeah. It's like glamping, I guess. Yes. Glamping. But you were not a glamper. You went raw. No. We were the opposite of that.
Starting point is 00:44:18 We would make everything ourselves. We would build the huge camp. You build kitchens, showers, everything. Kitchens? How do you build a kitchen in the desert? Exactly. You bring all the materials. First time he had bacon.
Starting point is 00:44:29 He was vegetarian for 15 years. First time he had bacon was at Burning Man. Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay, so Burning Man's in the middle of the desert. It's in Nevada. Like, you have to bring water. You have to bring all this stuff because they have nothing, right?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Everything. It's about self-sustainability. And what's the point? Like, why are people doing this? There's no music festival. There's music there. There is? There's, like the point? Like, why are people doing this? There's no music festival. There's music there. There is, like, performers? Yeah, there's music there. There's, like, raves and stuff. I think it started a long time ago, but it's really about self-expression. That's what I like about it. It's like artistic people. They have sculptures. Yeah, you go,
Starting point is 00:44:58 like, here, you know, like, you express yourself, but you still have to buy everything, and everyone else buys the same thing. Over there, make your own clothes we build our own cars you make sculptures you make artwork so it's like the ultimate self-expression it's like roughing it but you have enough money to last two weeks so you're not really roughing it you're like well we saved money so now we can pretend like we don't have money or something okay well a lot of people there literally spend a whole year preparing for burning man yeah you said moses has said he's never taken a vacation ever he's never traveled take vacation but then you said you'd go to burning man for what two weeks yeah we would go for like two weeks you were there for two weeks yeah we go for one week to build and
Starting point is 00:45:37 prepare and then the and then burning man burning man itself the event lasts a week and is there a man that burns is there like a giant man that burns, right? Yeah, there's an actual sculpture. Is it like Wicker Man? Very much so. Why is the point of that? Like, why are we doing a Burning Man thing? I think, I mean, you can't really, there's no real reason because it goes back to like
Starting point is 00:45:56 some guys in San Francisco years ago doing that as a thing. And it just grew. It's kind of organically grew and grew and grew and became something.'s crazy what's happening so okay so now it's like flooding do you see the videos of like people like water up to their ankles but like supposedly it's supposed to end today but they're like trapped there so no one's going home no update update about this do we know if they're like getting out or are they stayed there what's the update what's up today the roads might open today but so far they're still closed because in my end being I'm being like, oh my god, they're stuck there. They're trapped there.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Like these people are literally running for survival. So why did Chris Rock and Diplo run? Diplo had like a gig. So he had to go to his next gig. So he was just trying to escape. That's what you had thought. You thought maybe Chris Rock was trying to film a movie or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I think they just didn't want to like be stuck there. So they ran out of Burning Man or walked. H yeah hiked by themselves yeah i think diplo said he was just hiking and then was trying to like hitchhike however he could so chris rock and diplo are just like let me just like get on i would never get on a random person's back pickup truck ever even though i'll go die in that desert before i do that because you'll probably die that way they always say don't get in the car once the car starts moving then it's done like if you get kidnapped if anything like make sure you don't get taken to another location. That's always like the rule of survival.
Starting point is 00:47:08 So like what? When you're there, everyone around are for the festival. Imagine, okay, you're in a Taylor Swift concert and something bad happened. You're going to go with the fans. You know, you guys are bonded together. Yeah, camaraderie. You trust each other. Same thing with Burning Man.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Like all the people there, like there's no crime. There's 70,000 people and there's no crime. Right. You were saying that, which I thought would be so much crime because like you have no self-warrant reception. So like that's the time. That's the time. That's like purge.
Starting point is 00:47:32 It's so hard to get there. So you're not going to have criminals like working hard. It's not that hard. I remember Daff Noodles got there on like just Toyota. And what a disaster that was. Do you remember that? Do you know Daff Noodles? I do know.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah. I hope he's okay. I don't know. That was really bad. Yeah. That was, he went to like Burning Man with just a Toyota and that feels? I do know, yeah. I hope he's okay. I don't know. That was really bad. Yeah, that was, he went to like Burning Man with just a Toyota and like no, I think I got water. Yeah, I don't think he knew. And his poor assistant, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 But the thing is that every year when you're at Burning Man, something like this happens, something of that nature, some natural disaster or something. Every year? And the thing is that when you're at Burning Man, you don't feel it and you don't know about it, but then you hear the news about it. So people just like to make news about Burning Man. Like they even made a rumor that there's like Ebola. What's Ebola?
Starting point is 00:48:14 At Burning Man. What? Wait, what is that? Is that the one with the poop disease? Like you wash your hands and don't wash your hands? So like every year there's some rumor. Well, maybe that's probably true. There's no toilets. It just makes news. And no water. I'm maybe that's probably true. There's no toilets.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It just makes no sense. And no water. I'm sure that's true. I'm sure so many people are not washing their hands there. Yeah, but they're fine. Oh my God. Wait, do you know anyone there now? Your friends go over here.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Probably, yeah. We had a whole table of Burning Man people at our wedding. It was everyone that he went to Burning Man with and they were a rowdy. We called them Table 10. They were the rowdiest. I love them though. They were the best. They were so much fun.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I was shocked because we met during quarantine. at our wedding it was like the first time meeting any of moses's friends and they were like so like wild and like gallivantly like he's so quiet so i was like it's so weird to be friends with these people they did come to our halloween party your birthday um and they were just so out there and wild and you're just so quiet so i was like i can't picture you being with these people everyone needs somebody quiet to be around you're the quiet one. What was your part in Burning Man? Were you a cook?
Starting point is 00:49:09 No, I would, I designed a lot of stuff. Like when we made our art car, I helped design that, building stuff. Kind of like here, you know, I do the decor. So I bring all the fabrics and the furniture and make the spaces kind of cozy and fun. You are good at that. He's very good at that. But you're also a very good cook. So you could be the cook too. He's the best cook.
Starting point is 00:49:24 He's been cooking dinners every night. The lasagna we had. Oh my God. You are good at that. He's very good at it, but you're also a very good cook. So you could be the cook too. He's the best cook. He's been cooking dinners every night. The lasagna we had. Oh my God. Just so good. He makes me breakfast. He's the best. You really do everything. You are the ultimate Burning Man man. We have Burning Man here. I would go with you, but we need to definitely glamp it up. Do VIP Sal Bergen. I wanted to get that VIP experience, you know? So it's okay. So you're thinking they're exaggerating this. Like it's not that big of a deal. Like they're going to be able to get out. They're going to be fine. I just know people over there are having fun.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Like it's fun when there's a disaster at Burning Man. Like it's a crazy burning. Yeah. He's like, this looks, honestly, he goes, if you're there, it'd be like so much fun. I'm like, I don't know. This seems like a fire festival situation where people like don't, are not having food or water. But the difference is these people can prepare it. Fire fire festival they went and they expected to be served food
Starting point is 00:50:08 here you know nobody's gonna serve you water food or anything so you come prepared the survival of the fittest and would you could oscar go to the burning man in this outfit because it looks like burning man or is this more renaissance fair um they'll think he's a poser in the Halloween costume? Do they judge them? Do they judge posers? This is the one thing. Okay, the one beef I have with Burning Man. Oh, here we go. Here we go. The Burning Man tea scandal. Years and years and years ago, Burning Man was all the misfits and people that didn't belong anywhere. So that was like their place to belong in a family.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And then when it became kind of, you know, it became something, then those people became the gatekeepers and suddenly who became the gatekeepers the original burning man the original misfits you know suddenly they were the one not accepting people making it hard for people to feel good and accepted so you're on the side of the newcomers always like everyone should be just against gatekeeping so that's interesting that's very my chemical romance fans too they're like like we're the misfits and we're the outcast but like you can't come in i'm like oh my god it's just a human yeah what is that i don't like that i don't like gatekeepers i guess maybe you feel like i own like if you were there from the beginning of like an ownership kind of thing you know like yeah it's funny because doesn't like heidi klum go to burning man now and like jaredo. Well, Jared Leto would. He would. Heidi Klum. Yeah, lots of celebrities.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And her 130 calories. What is hers? 130 pounds. Her 900 calorie diet. 900 calorie diet. She would thrive over there. Yeah, she's like skinny era. Have you seen Heidi Klum?
Starting point is 00:51:34 I haven't seen her. Lots of celebrities go there. Lots of rich people from Silicon Valley. You know, all their Facebook, Elon Musk. Moses is connected to A-list, by the way. We never, ever can talk about it, ever. But we had a couple A-list people at our rehearsal dinner He kind of has some A-list connections
Starting point is 00:51:49 So I'm like can we get them on the podcast Because he's known some of them for so long This would blow Drake out of the water Some of his A-list people And I met them a couple times So I'm like can we ask them I'm one of those people I'm the same way I would never ask someone
Starting point is 00:52:04 I would never if I knew someone super famous I would never ask someone. I would never find you someone like super famous. I would never ask because I think it is like weird. But that's. Now we have the right platform. Yeah. He knows so many. I'm just like shook by it all. But well, we pray for the people at Burning Man.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I mean, 70,000 people. Hopefully no one died. Right. I mean, no one's dead. No, I don't think. I mean, we haven't heard of that. It's just water. There was like a rumor one person died.
Starting point is 00:52:22 But I think it was just. I think it was fake. How do you know it's fake? Because it was not. No one confirmed it. Right think it was just I think it was fake How do you know it's fake? Because it was not no one confirmed it Right it would be bigger news So when you have 70,000 people there's natural death That will occur like somebody will get a heart attack Something natural just statistics
Starting point is 00:52:36 But the only people that died at Burning Man Was usually under the influence And they like ran into the fire No Yeah like they ran into the Burning Man God that's extreme Are you sure that's happened yeah who why no one's with them or no one even not with them it's like yeah what yeah there's no stopping a crazy person oh my oh wow they're intoxicated but still damn wow makes me not want to go to burning man oh my god that's so intense yeah it sounds crazy
Starting point is 00:53:06 like i'd rather go to burning man than coachella for sure because coachella just sounds horrible too have you been no it's like not my yeah coachella is war it's horrible coachella is horrible i mean you have to be a teenager that wants to just watch music it's like old people too like all these old influencers are going now that they've been going for like 15 years like stop even vanessa hodgins gave up Coachella, which is, like. She did? Yeah, she didn't go last year. So it's, like.
Starting point is 00:53:28 What a legend. Maybe it's a sign of the times, you know? But also, I think it's probably because she wasn't with Austin Butler. Because it wasn't their thing. They go every year. And they were always, like. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:35 They do all the little photos together. Do you think she misses him? She's married now, right? Or engaged. Engaged. But. I don't want to be one of those people. It's, like.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Oh, my God. But they were so cute together. You were with someone for 10 years. True. But, I mean. I think she's, like, a long-termterm kind of girl because she was with Zac Efron for a long time too right so I think she's just like a long-term kind of girly yeah I think when you get to a certain age because I think she's my age I think you're just like you get engaged quicker because you're like okay like my time you know like let's get this going if you want to get married have kids I guess I don't know yeah but she seems like she wants to because she got engaged also these, these shorts, skinny legend. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:54:05 You could fit like a whole other person in there. I know. Okay, I'm a size 16 and I bought a size 18 so I feel so skinny. That is the life hack. Buy a size up. We were talking about this. I always bought a size down too hoping I'd fit into it. I'd squeeze into it. It just does not look good. But if you buy a size up, you look so, I feel so skinny today. You could put on a belt and then
Starting point is 00:54:21 you feel extra skinny. It's like wow. Okay, well I don't get crazy. I don't want to do a belt situation. As soon as I eat, it's just like, and then I get that imprinted the belt. But man, I feel so skinny today. This is a great podcast because I just had a donut and coffee this morning and I feel great. My mom always brings donuts on my podcast day. She treats, she's like the crafty. She treats us like it's a set. Yeah, she's the best. We have the donuts. We have the coffee. It's a whole vibe and I love it. We haven't even gotten to like the hot, hot topics of all of this. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Do we even want to give any notice to Trace Cyrus? Trace Cyrus is trash. Should we drag him again? Yeah. He's literally. You dragged him on your own. Oh, I could have gone off more. I'm like trying to be.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I was like, Trace Cyrus, which he did have a band called Metro Station. I don't know if they're still around. Oh, that was his. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do I know? I think I've told this story before. Miley Cyrus and her sister, Noah, came in with the mom, Tish Cyrus.
Starting point is 00:55:13 They came in to this place I worked when I was 18. It was called Neighborhoodies in Hollywood and Highland. We made custom shirts. We could do it on demand. So they all came in. Miley was probably like 14, but like on Hannah Montana. She came in. I was like a fan already.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And I was like, oh my God. So I made shirts for them. And they got the the Metro station and I had to double up the letters. It was very, it was a lot. It was very expensive because like double up the letters, you're doing double. So I made them Metro station shirts. And that's how I first knew about Trey Cyrus. And I was like, okay, vibe. We love that.
Starting point is 00:55:36 The mom just got married. I love all the kids were there. I was like, oh my God, supportive. We love that so much. I didn't know anything about this person, but honestly, he annoys me more than anybody in the whole world. Like I cannot stand him. First of all, we don't drag for looks, but also the way you look is so douchey.
Starting point is 00:55:48 You look like you're in 2009. Like, who are you to say anything about any OnlyFans sex workers when you look like that? Okay, one. Two, it's like you're 34. I thought maybe he was like younger. Like, maybe he was like their younger brother for some reason. I don't know. I'm like, maybe he's like younger or whatever like that.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Basically, he wrote this statement saying like, OnlyFans girls, basically no respectable guy is going to like you. Like, you are like basically trash. Like, no one's going to respect you, all this stuff like that basically he wrote this statement saying like only fans girls basically no respectable guy is going to like you like you are like basically trash like no one's gonna respect you all the stuff like that and I was just like first of all I have like the most respectable guy in the whole world who like loves me adores me like the best thing ever second of all sex work especially only fans is like so powerful so liberating all the stuff like that because the women are getting the money the women are controlling their bodies they get to make their money they get to make a lot of money not even leaving their house not putting themselves in danger not causing harm to literally anybody the people who buy that are getting the money. The women are in control of their bodies. They get to make their money. They get to make a lot of money, not even leaving their house, not putting themselves in danger, not causing harm to literally anybody.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The people who buy that are getting their sexual release in a very safe way. They're not harming other people. They're having this consensual sexual exchange. And I'm like, who is this person to even say anything? One, it makes me believe that he was rejected by an OnlyFans model or just women in general. He's giving major incel vibes. And I was saying this. He's a danger to society.
Starting point is 00:56:43 These kind of people are the ones you need to watch out for the ones that hate these women so much you don't even know him nothing even happened to you like this is the one that's going to go unleashed and he's already kind of unhinged on twitter like we really do need to put a watch out for him because then on twitter he was like oh my god I'm just saying all this stuff like it's the truth it's just like he's doubling down he's like I'm going to come back and troll people again it's like obviously he's not well he's 34 and he's like getting off on trolling on twitter like there's something not well he's getting excited about 10 million views. Like something's not well with this person. And I know we don't ever should drag family into this because a lot of people are like Miley and
Starting point is 00:57:08 Manoa and Tish, they probably have like no idea, but they're obviously somewhat close. They were all at the wedding. They can say something like at this point, if it was like my brother or a sibling or someone saying this stuff like that, like you have the voice. Miley is so like empowerment for like showing your body, being sexual, owning your sexuality. I'm like, why is no one stepping in? Or at least like saying like, this isn't't right i don't support this because this is looking like crazy problematic unhinged behavior and this is when i feel like those like holders should be put in order it's like get this person help because something is seriously wrong with him and he's like doubling down on this and it makes me worried for like sex worker only fans girls out there so that's my take on trey cyrus
Starting point is 00:57:38 thoughts it's so bizarre because like you said Miley is very like sexually liberated and all about kind of like ownership of your body and like finds the empowerment in that. So to have someone in her family be so opposite of that is so wild. There is some weird stuff going on with her family right now. Like her siblings are like split up after like her parents split up and each, you know, remarried. I know Noah and another one, and her younger brother,
Starting point is 00:58:10 are with Billy Ray. And then Miley and Trace are with Tish. But Noah was at the wedding, right? At Tish's wedding. I don't know if Noah was. There's a lot of weird stuff going on with the siblings and stuff. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. But Trace and Miley are on the same side so miley's the big one and especially
Starting point is 00:58:27 because miley is usually i mean she's like a little bit more low-key after her divorce but she usually is more like outspoken about this stuff so i did find that like weird and hopefully i want to believe that she if she saw it she does something behind the scenes but when something's above the scenes publicly like publicly say a statement that says that you you know i think you it is worth like a statement publicly like disavowing that oh a thousand percent i would never talk to any of my siblings if they said anything like that about women and it is like it's weird because in the metro station days too like trace was so like he i don't know if you remember he was like so skinny and now seeing him now i feel like there
Starting point is 00:59:03 has to be something psychologically because when you're yeah it's a you were so like so skinny and now seeing him now i feel like there has to be something psychologically because when you're yeah it's a you were so like so skinny now he like all his photos are like you know he's bulked up or whatever and he like tries to push that so yeah that also has to have some kind of psychological like alpha male kind of you know and probably the fact that he's like not successful like his sisters he's probably like damn yeah like i'm inferior to these women it's very odd and he's the oldest i don't know yeah it screams weak insecure like any guy attacking a woman period it's like weird but it's like also just why does everyone think and it's it's kind of like a general thing like why do the men think they have to like pipe up and like give their opinion on something that doesn't involve them
Starting point is 00:59:41 at all it's like oh like women being their most vulnerable yes they're killing it making money but you're still getting disrespected degraded humiliated people judge you for it whatever like that and you're at your most vulnerable shit you're gonna like really that's been always been my issue i remember like i don't know two years ago it was like barstool sports or something which is maybe why i have a beef well actually like day partner i don't know if he had anything to do with this but there was a video of barstool sports employees like making fun of my only fans it was like two girls and two guys and I'm like you are so disgusting and sick and twisted like no matter what no matter how much money I make no matter the choices I make putting stuff out it's like that's me at my like literal
Starting point is 01:00:14 most vulnerable shit that's why I get pissed about anything naked nude any stuff like that like yes I put it out there and like that's how I make money because like it just it's just how I make money like I don't know what else I would do without it but it's's like so gross. Like you're already putting yourself out there. You're already so vulnerable. Like, obviously I already talk about so much about my insecurities with my body, all this stuff like that. Like, I don't know what it is, why people want to take that moment. Like there's so many things to critique me for and hate me for, but you're going to take that, like my naked body and like make fun of me. Like, I just think that's like literally the scummiest of the scummy. It's like, so you're so bottom of the barrel. Shame on the women for
Starting point is 01:00:44 doing that. Like, that's so disgusting. Like anything like that. So gross. But also like the men, like how disgusting are you? Like how insecure, like that screams insecurity when he's like, no, like strong man's going to like this. Like it takes an even, like it takes a strong woman to do OnlyFans. It takes a stronger man or partner or woman to be with like someone, to be the partner or someone doing OnlyFans because they will get critiqued. I mean, he gets sent my shit all the time, like old shit, all the stuff like that. It's, like, literally so, like, it's just, like, one of the worst things. And a lot of sex workers do, you know, can't, if they don't get the traction or whatever the case is, they decide, I know a porn star that stopped doing it.
Starting point is 01:01:14 And her life got, her mind, her mental health just spiraled, just was wrecked because now she thinks she did this horrible thing. It's haunting her for the rest of her life. Like, it's crazy. I think it's so disgusting. I think Trace is so disgusting. The fact that he's doubling down about it. The fact that he's like laughing about it, trolling about it. It's like so gross calling people ugly. He's like, Oh, a lot of ugly people do OnlyFans. It's just like, what is your problem?
Starting point is 01:01:33 Like, honestly, this is when I get mad. This is when I actually get triggered and I just have to like take a moment, but I was so annoyed. I just, I don't know. And there, and he's famous and he has these famous siblings and why I was mildly not saying something. I'm sorry. Like at this point, like I know again, not to put on siblings siblings, but if your sibling is misbehaving so bad and you stand for something so big, I mean, Miley should say something for sure. And I'm not someone to push someone to say something, but this is like your sibling. If it was someone I promoted, my husband, my sister or something, you have to say something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yeah. Right? I don't know. Maybe am I wrong in that? Maybe I'm wrong on that one. I don't know. No, I personally, as someone who likes miley and also is like me too you know it's like and it's so opposite of what trace is saying it's like i want her to like this about so it's like validating almost you know
Starting point is 01:02:15 because it's like she is the breadwinner of that family like she is the reason all the other we know of any of the other siblings at all i feel like so when the second that she talks about it then she is dragged she's like lumped in with it you know so i do get why from like a professional standpoint why she hasn't it hasn't gotten trace's statements haven't gotten like a ton of coverage but the second she talks about it right it will so it not it not only like amplifies what trace is saying but then it also like lumps miley in with it and i think that's another thing to think about too it's like all of a sudden he's going to get more promotion because people are going to talk about it and then if you look it up it's going to be Miley Cyrus and Trace Cyrus you know what I mean yeah that's true it's hard because
Starting point is 01:02:51 it's like straight from the horse's mouth I think it was just something oh rumored or someone said this about him maybe okay wait to see what it plays out but it's like coming I get that I don't know I just yeah I get that because I do hate when people push it's like with the whole Coney thing like well her friends need to say something it's like okay well it's not really their place it has nothing to do directly with them so in that sense but yeah i guess like you said it's just more like as a fan you're just like god i really wish you would say something against this because she's the one that would have the power to like shut him up in some way he would only really be rattled by miley you know yeah so and i think she's the one that could like really shake the table but
Starting point is 01:03:22 in the more mainstream sense like no one's really talking about it because like no one's really talking about Trace in general. So I also think that the less like Miley not talking about it may also be good because like I don't want him to get any promotion. Yeah. You know. And I don't know. It was like all over my For You page.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Like I don't follow him or anything. And it was like all over my For You page. And I was like, what the hell? Like it made me so mad. Like I wanted to go off like on X, but I just didn't. I was like, let me just save it for YouTube. I don know i was so mad i don't know why that triggered me more than anything and i haven't been triggered in a long time i just like let me just call dr drew let's evaluate this um no i don't blame you it's so misogynistic it's so annoying and like demeaning
Starting point is 01:03:59 especially coming from i just hate when like random men that like no one cares about decides to like post their whole manifesto as if their opinion like matters or like makes any difference like men need to realize their opinions on stuff especially women's business like no one cares no one cares no one asks no one doesn't change anyone's mind no one's like happy for you for sharing no one is happy to have read it it's just like annoying and no one cares yeah it's like and like people say well it's fine to have like of course it's fine to have a preference you don't want an only fans model fine like don't date them but like you don't feel like shit on the whole
Starting point is 01:04:29 thing yeah like it's not like you're dating someone it's like unless he got like a burt maybe someone he liked was an only fans i don't know what happened to him he was always triggered by something he was triggered it was like a long like a note yeah it's like what was it on like instagram story or something it was like a screenshot it was like there's some app was graphic design was involved for like why it's such a loser behavior it was such a loser behavior instagram everyone was on my side and x and no one's on my side like no one cares and we're talking about it but i'm just so mad but the fact that he was flexing 10 million views i'm like okay stop like that's so embarrassing like 10 million views of people thinking that you're a shithead yeah like no one 10 million people thinking you're an asshole yeah congrats i
Starting point is 01:05:08 don't like it at all thoughts on dating a sex worker because you met me like when i was first starting like when i was at the height when i was doing the craziest stuff on only fans that we met as friends while we were dating well we dated and then he's like oh you're doing crazy stuff on only fans but you didn't like it you were like i don't want to date you because you're doing this stuff oh it was very clear well when we first met you wanted me to join you i went so high now let's do only fans together that i was like no i have a career that's okay yeah and they're like well i want to do porn i'm like go ahead you do it but we're not going to be together. Yeah. But to me, like, it doesn't bother me. Like, it's like, this is what you do for a living.
Starting point is 01:05:49 That's what you did before we met. So my choice was, am I going to join you, you know, in this partnership and not change you? Yeah. Because like changing you is not an option. That's why I'm here. I get that too. Like, I don't think I could date an OnlyFans guy that was like sleeping with a bunch of girls like I know it's their job
Starting point is 01:06:06 right like that big one Lena the Pug just did with was Jason Love was that his name which I'm like I'm just finding out about him
Starting point is 01:06:11 but it's like I think he might be married I don't know but it's like I even though I know it's like just work I can never be with someone
Starting point is 01:06:16 who's like having sex with different people I know it's like a job and trust me when it comes to OnlyFans I know it's a job like I did it for like a couple months
Starting point is 01:06:22 of like hardcore stuff and like I mean mine was a little different I guess I mean mine that's the thing about OnlyFans it's like you can kind of choose it's a job like I I did it for like a couple months of like hardcore stuff and like I mean mine was a little different I guess I mean mine I that's the thing about OnlyFans it's like you can kind of choose it's not like you're partnered with you know you kind of choose so it does become for me it was like in like enjoyable you know for like the moment or whatever but I hadn't met Moses right when I was starting this and he just wanted to be my friend so I was like so like it was weird it was such a weird thing because I was like enjoying it but at the same time I'm like oh god I really wanted to date him so bad like I was just like why don't you take me seriously why don't you date me and it was because I was was such a weird thing. Cause I was like enjoying it. But at the same time, I'm like, Oh God, I really wanted to date him so bad. Like, I was just like, why don't you take
Starting point is 01:06:45 me seriously? Why don't you want to date me? And it was cause I was obviously, I know you're having sex with other people. So I get that aspect of it too. Of course. Like that's what I'm saying. Preference, of course. Like if you don't want to date a girl because you don't want them to have sex with other people. But I think there's categories like now, obviously I don't, like since we started dating in August of 2021, I haven't. But also like the way I looked at it was like, I had sex with people too. I just didn't film it. Right. That's the only difference.
Starting point is 01:07:06 So sometimes people will. Wait, you had sex with other people? Sometimes people will try to show you and be like, oh, what do you think about, you know, your wife was like, well, your wife did too. I just didn't see the movie of it. You know what I mean? Like, it's not that it didn't happen. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:07:20 It takes like a stronger person to date someone who does that on camera because like, yeah, like because it is on camera. So it's like a different way. Of course who does that on camera because like, yeah, like because it is on camera. So it's like a different way. Of course, everyone has sex with other people, but you just don't know. And if we go back to Burning Man, I mean, everyone, you know, at the time when we first started going, everyone was naked at Burning Man. Yeah. So if we would all go, I would see everyone and their girlfriends. Everyone were naked.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Like nudity is not an issue for me. Yeah. And then if there's somebody that on their, you know, computer want to pay to see something behind paywall, it's their business. It's not really that public. You know what I mean? Like, so. That's the interesting thing.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Very few people come up to me in public. I think maybe one time someone came up to me and said they were an OnlyFans fan, but like very few people talk about it like publicly, just in general. Not that I don't think there's anything ashamed of it. I always say this because like, I love taking nude photos.
Starting point is 01:08:03 I think like nudity is like so beautiful. And the fact that people do pay, I think that shows like the value. Like they value you. They value your art. They value your body and stuff like that. There's some girls who just do bikini stuff. I'm like, damn, I'm jealous of that. Like Tana doesn't show anything.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I'm like, damn. Like I was just making the money Tana was making just literally being in a bikini. But bodies are art. And it's cool that like women and men can like make money off of it if they want. And they don't feel bad about it and stuff like that. So, um, that's why I was talking about Dr. Drew where I'm torn on like one hand, like I love like the nudity of it all. I love that. I think it's like super empowering. I grew up with Playboy. It's like my, it's like my Playboy that I'm in charge of. Um, you know, again, just like sometimes I go back and forth with it, but whatever. But
Starting point is 01:08:41 yeah, so you just, you know, you get stuff sent to you and then you're just, that stuff bothers you more. So when people send stuff to you i don't know well it's not that it's more i think which is actually against the against the guidelines of x and those kind of platforms is unsolicited nudity like yeah let's say if i write something on twitter somebody might comment to that with a nude photo and i'm like in this case the only person that's doing something wrong is the person posting that and commenting. And I think a lot of times people don't understand that, that the people that hate on us or do
Starting point is 01:09:12 that, they are the criminals. Yeah. This is pure harassment. This is revenge porn. This is all of those things. They're actually criminals. Well, that's what it comes down to. But in general, the unsolicited sending people nude photos of anyone without their consent,
Starting point is 01:09:26 whether they do it as they're living their full on porn star or not, it's like that's where it's like legally wrong. Because I think it is. I want to say I like research some of the laws where it's almost like flashing. Like if you send someone unsolicited nudes, like it's considered like cyber flashing or something like that, because you can't just do that in real life. So it is a it is a that's like the down the dark side and downside of it too is like people use it like against you or to weaponize and like that's where it like feels a little icky yeah but
Starting point is 01:09:50 they're in the wrong that's why it doesn't bother me like what you do doesn't bother me because you're not doing anything wrong right it's behind a paywall consensual and stuff like that yeah yeah it it does it bums me out that's why when this stuff happens with like a mainstream person and stuff like that it just bums me out because there's already just such a bad stigma and you're like carried forever on that you're judged for it forever and like again i'm fortunate like that's why when this stuff happens with like a mainstream person and stuff like that it just bummed me out because there's already just such a bad stigma and you're like carried forever on that you're judged for it forever and like again i'm fortunate like that's my position and i can make a lot of money and i could like you know be fine or whatever or do other things like i have this now whatever but you know some people they don't have that support they don't have that you know stability mentally or physically to like handle it or financially it bummed me out the trey cyrus one is really sad yeah it's also so
Starting point is 01:10:25 interesting how like the stigma for women who choose to do only fans it's so different from like the men straight and gay like i know for the gay community specifically like only fans guys it's almost like celebrated like it's like oh wow like you do and then if someone like like hooks up with someone who's like an only fan celeb or whatever it's like oh wow it's like a legend yeah almost you know oh i see that all the time on my friend stories when they go to like mexico with like only fans models and stuff like that like guys and like they're like oh my god that's so cool yeah it's like it's so weird oh it's like a it's so celebrated for like in the gay community and then when it comes to like straight men like there's so many straight male like celebrities influencers where it's like no
Starting point is 01:11:03 one throws it in their you know scotty sire and like toddy and no it's like no one throws it in their you know scotty sire and like toddy and no one's like no one's like running around subscribe and i am yeah there is one of their friends is so hot so for him which one he said one of theirs it's his name is joe joe something yeah he's like not i don't know what he does he's an influencer or not no i think he has like a normal job but he like is with them a lot and he was always really hot but I think he just has a normal job or whatever. But he doesn't do the OF. No I don't think
Starting point is 01:11:32 so. But it's funny like no one like you don't see tea videos of like people talking about throwing like Scottie and Tati's like OnlyFans pics around. You know what I mean? I think I have an exception to that one in general like yeah. It just I'm sorry. I know what I mean? I think I'm an exception to that one in general. Like, yeah. It just, I'm sorry. There's no viewing parties.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I know we talk about it so much, but honestly, it's so, I don't know what it is. I'm telling you, I had to go to therapy about this. Like, it actually is like so, like, I can't process it. Like, I can't process it. It's like so triggering. I don't know why. Like, and every time it gets brought up in any situation, like even the soup videos, I just am like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:02 It's weird. So the reason I bring it up is because it's like always on the forefront of my mind and it like freaks me out and i try to make like a joke about it but it's just like it freaks me out it's so freaky and like again this person like in my house and like i don't know i don't know i'm sorry because like of all my things i've been through with any person in my life relationship like that is like literally the weirdest and it freaks me out so much and it still freaks me out like is she still like keeping tabs like watching my things like i don't know yeah no i get it and it's like when people say like oh trisha said she would never talk about it again like you have a right to as someone who
Starting point is 01:12:31 befriended someone had a professional and personal relationship with someone and then found out that they were like weaponizing your most like vulnerable content against you in a way to like poke fun at you and like what you do and your body and like who you are just being mean yeah like it wasn't like poking fun like you're doing this behind like you're doing on text messages to your fans like you're being so like vicious for what yeah so what i don't like that bad energy i had we saged it we staged that over there because we're trying to build another sound like we need to sage this energy yeah because that gave me such a weird feeling and let me tell you i was so sick during june i wasn't, like, I didn't have my period.
Starting point is 01:13:05 So, like, my hormones were off for, like, two months. Like, there was some bad energy happening. It was so weird. And, like, I finally feel like I can, like, breathe or something. It's really weird. But the energy is real. Like, the fact that this, like, every time, like, OnlyFans story kind of comes up, you kind of get triggered. Like, I feel like that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:13:19 That would mess anyone up, you know? That's why I think the thing, like, Jeff with David. I don't, I mean, like, any of those people. Adam with Colleen. Like, it's it's like when you go through something so like traumatizing adam was like a child like you know i get it like i get why you would just want to keep talking about it and not let it go away because like it's something so you know jeff too it's like that situation is insane to me like it changed your whole life you can't see you look completely different like all this stuff like it's it's all it's all a lot but i love miley trace is trash put him in the
Starting point is 01:13:48 trash i do not believe in love anymore there's something in the air there's something in the air you guys divorces are happening all over hollywood what is it what is happening in this year 2023 year of the bunny the bunny never my thing never I never met a bunny I liked. Do you know your year, your zodiac year? I'm the monkey. Okay. Thank God. Is monkey safe? Monkey safe.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Everything's safe. You're the dog. Everything's safe. I'm dragon. He's snake. My daughter's tiger. You're the bunny. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:14:14 We're almost out of it. February. Everyone is breaking up. Everyone is breaking up. Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner have been together, what, since 2017? Like almost six years? I always thought they were really cute together. I really did.
Starting point is 01:14:25 So cute. Their little Vegas wedding was a vibe. Like everything about them was so cute. Supposedly they've been separated for six months. But then Sophie Turner posted her with Nick Jonas. Joe Jonas. Yeah. Everyone was like, why can't it be Nick?
Starting point is 01:14:38 I guess everyone. Oh, yeah. Do they just thirst after him or they just don't like Priyanka? I think people don't like Priyanka. Why is that? I don't know anything about her. But is it just because she's with nick or is it does she did she as far as i know she hasn't done anything like super problematic i think i don't know why yeah i don't know why people just don't like her maybe you know there is some people it's
Starting point is 01:14:57 like megan markle that just people don't like for some reason yeah hilaria baldwin like there's so much hate against her yeah and it's just like for what i know nothing about about Priyanka, but I was just like maybe because she married Nick Jonas. I saw the other meme of like why – everyone is divorcing. Why can't it be – there's a young guy. Aaron Taylor Johnson. Yeah. The girl with the older woman. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Yeah. I forgot her name, but she's like a director. She – people – a lot of people think that she allegedly – oh, Sam Taylor Johnson. Yeah. A lot of people think she – because the age difference is so big. So a of people think she allegedly groomed him i don't know is that was he like a minor when she met him i forget the history there i think maybe he was he might have been like 17 or 18 i think when they because he's still really young and she's an older like i think she was a director or film executive something like that she's a director i think she directed him in a
Starting point is 01:15:42 movie when she was young maybe something like that so She's a director. I think she directed him in a movie when she was young. Maybe. Something like that. So yeah. And people really – Hate her. Yeah. Well, that makes more sense because that's ick. She like talked about in an interview kind of recently about how he is like being the father dynamic and her daughter slash his stepdaughter is only like a couple years younger
Starting point is 01:16:01 than him. Like two or three-ish years younger than him. And what did she say about it? Has she said anything? No. The wife or the daughter? The daughter. No. I don't think she said anything so what is he he talks about well how does he even talk about being a parent when you're like if they're the same age or both adults yeah everyone was like quote tweeting it being like this is really weird yeah you're like an adult with an adult stepchild like no i think 18 even is like that's what i'm saying even if you're like legal 18 19 it's still ick like they're
Starting point is 01:16:23 still a teenager you know like in your i don't know how old she is she's what like 50 because everyone and they really don't like her on twitter they call her like a witch and stuff all the time especially because he's like is he hot i don't even know he's really hot yeah okay it's yeah everyone loves him everyone's like why can't it be this person ariana grande go fight go do a movie with this guy i mean yeah that's it i'm sorry that's it like j-lo Casper, like if you're like in your 30s and you're dating someone 50 or 60, I guess more power to you, whatever. But when you're like a youngin'. He's a 23 year difference between the two.
Starting point is 01:16:52 He's 33. She's 56. Oh, but did they, did it say how long they've been married for? Okay. That's not like bad unless they met when they were young or something. That's not bad. They married in 2008? That's when they started dating.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Yeah. They met in 2008. God, I'm so bad with the math. Oh, yeah. When he auditioned to be in Sam's movie. So he was 18. He was 18. He was 18 or 17.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Yeah. Don't like it. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, next. Ariana, get him. Ariana, go find him. Please.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Please. I'll be in that movie. Yeah, everyone's like, why can't it be them? I agree with that. That's really ick. Yeah. Yeah, it makes me sad. Sophie Turner, I want to say follow me one time on my old instagram yes she followed me oh my god it was my biggest flex i know i really wanted to be friends with
Starting point is 01:17:33 her i was in a game of thrones era for sure did you have a face a game of thrones face oh yeah especially that first season that's when i was like really i kind of fell off towards like the end oh yeah i fell off and then i came back for the last season and it was a little trash. But I don't want to be that person that's like, oh, everyone jumped on that bandwagon of it being trash, but it kind of was. Yeah. The deaths were so bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:52 They lost the plot. Literally. Literally. I think they would agree they lost the plot. Like, oh. Yeah. So do we know? The thing that bothered me with the Joe Jonas, you know.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Yes. I know we're going to agree. Okay. Did I tweet about it or no? No. I just know what you're going to say. Okay. I love that you know.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I love that you know. Yes, I know we're going to agree. Okay. Did I tweet about it or no? No, I just know what you're going to say. Okay. I love that you know. I love that you know. The fact that they were like, oh, Joe is taking care of the kids like full time with Sophie. Yeah. I'm like, okay, first of all, being a dad. Literally just being a father. Being a father. But two, I'm also like, that's kind of a weird thing to say when you're in the middle of this like tour because it's like, there's no way you're full time with the kids.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Like, you know what I mean? There's just, it's impossible if you're on stage at night, like to be full time with them. Like that's just not possible, not realistic. And it's like a weird thing to say. So everyone was just like, what's the real tea? Why is Joe Jonas flexing this? Like, why is he saying this?
Starting point is 01:18:31 Like, is there something like brewing? Like there's nothing that's been talked about right now. Right. That separation. It's been like, that's why it's been like very surprising because everyone usually you kind of get like the whispers first. Right. But this one came out like so out of left field.
Starting point is 01:18:44 But yeah, the TMZ information was just so like pro Jonas. And everyone's saying, well, okay, this is like the first time Sophie has worked since she's literally shooting in England. She's shooting a project. So this is the first like project she shot since motherhood. Right. So it's like the first time she's also been away, you know, from the kids's working oh did they say that he's doing it by himself i thought i said he was doing it with her no they're saying like he has doing basically insinuating that he's doing it
Starting point is 01:19:12 by himself yeah like not true yeah so it's the first time she's been like been away from like the family and stuff meanwhile like joe sophie's been in like the music videos she's followed them on tour before so it's like come, come on. What is that? That's so weird. I wonder. I don't know. And they have two kids? Two, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Hmm. Yeah. That statement was odd. That like definitely rubbed me the wrong way. I was just like, why? Like everyone was saying like, why are we giving guys like this praise to be like the bare minimum? It's like so weird.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Like, yeah, you should be raising your kids. It's just like, you know, it's like, it bothers me so much. Again, back to us. It's like, it's bothering me so much when like Moses raising Malibu melba was like yes he's the father we're raising her together yeah like it it bothers me to no end when people say that it's so weird so i don't like that and then it's like they get praised for doing so much meanwhile the moms are doing like everything but um but i also don't buy that he's like doing it all by himself i mean he's on tour like someone's gotta be watching yeah it's impossible because you're doing promo they're doing tiktoks with everybody in the world all the jonas brothers everywhere kevin jonas was
Starting point is 01:20:07 not on the last two episodes of claim to fame i'm like what were you doing kevin you're not on tour yet like i love that joke but um yeah i don't know how i feel about this i don't know if i care that much but i'm not really i was never jonas it's weird because i was such a disney like girly but i never was like a joe bros like i never was a a Disney, like, girly, but I never was, like, a Joe Bros. Like, I never was a Joe Bros. I was always, like, a – like, when Miley and Selena were fighting over Nick, like, I – Oh, I don't remember that at all. You don't remember that?
Starting point is 01:20:33 No. Were they actually? Yeah, like, they had a feud for a long time because they were fighting over Nick Jonas. Oh, my God. But, yeah, I was very in that era of Disney, but never a Joe Bro girly. Yeah. Never a JB. Camp Rock, not it.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Although I love This Is Me, and that's like a song. I was singing that song i love that song this is me i'm exactly where i'm supposed to be are you joe jonas right now or are you demi are we both demi we're both demi i'm not now i found who i am there's no way to hold it in no more hiding who i want to be and this is me and i think that's when joe jones comes in you're the voice i see in the sun the reason that i'm singing need to find you i gotta find you Should I Yeah, there's more There's a lot more Does Demi go? No I always want Moses
Starting point is 01:21:27 to do that TikTok with me It's like you me Do you know what? We're face to face Eye to eye We're like fire and rain Fire and rain
Starting point is 01:21:37 And it's It's insane Is that a camp rock? Yeah, I think maybe camp rock too Man, there's so many good ones Yeah Camp rock too? Yeah, there is so many good ones. Camp Rock 2?
Starting point is 01:21:45 Yeah, there is a Camp Rock 2. Sequel? Yeah. We should get Alison Stoner on the podcast. She has her own podcast now where she's so anti-anybody being a child star, which is so interesting. Because when I ask child stars about it, all of them seem to be like, yeah, I'd let my kid do it kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:21:57 But she's just like, do not let your kids do this. Yeah, I guess it kind of depends on the experience like child stars have maybe but she was like the disney machine yeah it can be kind of like miley was talking about like her she was like did you see this video where she was reading her schedule when she was a kid like when she was 14 years old she yeah she was like reading what her schedule would be and she like wake up at 5 a.m and then um hair and makeup at 6 a.m interview at 8 a.m interview 9 15 a.m and then she didn't finish from like so from like 5 a.m to like 15 a.m and then she didn't finish from like so from like 5 a.m to like 7 p.m she was working at like 14 years old so i can imagine why someone
Starting point is 01:22:31 would be like opposed well i think 14 maybe i don't know maybe 14 you have a little more like say i would assume to be like i don't want to do this anymore i don't know especially like back then like think about like every kid like it was the dream to be on disney channel you know what i mean so i feel like you're very like okay you know what i mean like you kind of just do it because it's like you know especially if your parents are kind of like pushing you to be involved you know so she is she kind of saying she didn't enjoy it miley or she was just saying how now she's like she gives herself time to like be on long breaks because she was like forced to work so much when or was working so much when she was younger like it was like non-stop hustling when you're
Starting point is 01:23:10 like a kid so now she is giving herself the grace like go on vacations and like you know take breaks on like the spotlight and stuff so yeah that's interesting because i like don't know i mean i always wanted to i always wanted to be like an actor or something as a child it's like the dream but i get it i don't know it's so hard it's so hard because i really really wanted to be a child actor i like audition like well fake auditions i was like at the mall but i still wanted it so bad but i guess when you have it i mean i guess it's just the grass is greener on the other side always like you just like what whatever you have you like don't you know want yeah but back to joe and sophie we're not yeah i know i'm just not i don't just care is
Starting point is 01:23:46 there a couple a celebrity couple that would like really shake you to the core if they split for me i think it's i think tom holland and zendaya i really like together oh but they're not like heavy are they like they're not married no but they've been together for years and they're so cute together so i'm like whenever they're young i'm just like oh they're gonna break up like blake lydley and ryan reynolds then would be like my oh i didn't know they're married blake lydley and ryan reynolds girl good for her i'm like four kids what they've been married for like the years oh my god when did that happen they met on like the green lantern this was like 20 years ago i don't know a long time ago i don't know what that is oh my god you didn't know blake lightly and ryan reynolds i did not even know i've heard
Starting point is 01:24:30 it blake lightly didn't know where she was from and then when i started gossip girl i was like oh like i always see her at like the met and i was like okay like right i don't know i guess i knew they were dating i don't know i don't know maybe i didn't have no idea So what couple would like really shake you then? No one. Brittany and Sam. I was shook by that. That was like. I was like, wait. I really thought that was like.
Starting point is 01:24:51 They've been together so long. Brittany and Sam. God, everyone is like. I don't know. Is there someone like I love? Gerard Way and his wife, although she's not like famous. I guess maybe Adam Sandler and his wife. There you go.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Oh, yeah. Then you really stop believing in love. I feel like, yeah. When people. I just think you need to stay together with whoever you're with. Just stay together. Unless it's abusive or something, then leave.
Starting point is 01:25:07 But I just feel like – like, what do you do? Who was it? Oh, Ned Fulmer and his wife. Like, she's just like, ah, we have kids together. I don't know. It's just hard. I don't know. It's a tough one.
Starting point is 01:25:16 I just think, like, we're, like, old. Like, who are we going to find in our prehistoric age? Like, who are we going to find, you know? Like, are you going to leave me and find someone better, you know? I'm not going to find someone better. I was thinking about that because i was like i don't know why i was like reflecting on like um era of like dating and it was so draining to like date and i couldn't imagine doing it like it's just no i remember just like going out and like i was in that phase where it's like i would say yes like every day because i was like you never even if i didn't like feel it yeah it's
Starting point is 01:25:42 like you never know this could be the one so i would say this to every day and it was like you never – even if I didn't like feel it, I was like you never know. You never know. This could be the one. So I would say this to every date and it was like – it was so exhausting because every date you have the same conversations. You make the same small talk. You say – you make the same jokes and it's like it all blurs together. It's kind of terrible. No. It was horrible. Like literally so bad.
Starting point is 01:25:57 We went out to dinner with Tana and all her like friends. They're all like 25. They're all very nice people. And they were talking – they were talking about the dating apps. They're all on these dating apps. Like there's like a jewish dating app what was that one where it's like you don't have to be jewish but the men are jewish because now with elliot grange and all the jewish men taking over what was it lux can we be sponsored by lux
Starting point is 01:26:13 apparently it's a jewish dating app which i wish i would have known where you because jda you both have to be jewish but lux um only the guy is jewish and i guess i guess for girls that want to find Jewish guys. Yeah. Which is everything. I was like, I guess. And guys, I guess, too. I don't know. Because we found out, like, she has so many Jewish friends.
Starting point is 01:26:30 We loved it. I didn't even know. I was like, oh, okay. Love that. But they were talking about this Lux to find, like, these Jewish guys. And anyways, they're talking about the apps in general. Like, Hinge and all that stuff. Like, God, that sounds so exhausting.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Like, Tana, we were, like, 10 o'clock, 1030. We were, like, at Buffalo Wilderness. She was going to go on a date afterwards. I was like, oh, my gosh. And then and then they talk about like dating the same people or the whatever I don't know if Brooke mentioned on the cancel I didn't watch it if she left it or not we won't say who but she went on a date with a celebrity oh an older celebrity she didn't know it was a date I don't know if she talked about this or not but anyways it was such an interesting I wish she would kept it in but it's like crazy I was like she's like oh we went to dinner like I
Starting point is 01:26:59 don't know I don't want to say the whole thing but like just the dating in general exhausting dating the same people like coming over to your house, going over to their house. Is it too late? Is it just a hookup? Like, oh, you really like the person, but they don't like you back. Like dating. I would never date. I would never date again.
Starting point is 01:27:10 If something happens to Moses, I'm just done for a while. I'm just done for a while. I don't know. Unless Tim Allen, maybe, you know, if he was widowed too and then we're both widowed and then whatever. But no, not even Tim Allen. I wouldn't leave. Like literally nobody would tell me.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Like not Jason Momoa, not Naveen Andrews, not Gerard Way. Not even Tim Allen. I wouldn't leave. Like literally nobody would tempt me. Like not Jason Momoa, not Naveen Andrews, not Gerard Way. Not even Tim Allen. I love Tim Allen. But I don't know. I just, it's just so exhausting. I remember sometimes I'd feel empowered. I was like, oh, I get so, to be like in demand enough to get on dates. But then like.
Starting point is 01:27:37 I was never in demand on dates. It was like my little skinny era. I was like, wow. Like I could really, it was like different day every day right and it felt so good but then also to be like it was so draining and then not knowing oh then sometimes you would get like you would leave like wow what a great day and then not never get a text back that humbling so much so humbling oh my god the worst that happened to me a lot yeah I think if I was skinny yeah maybe it'd totally be a different world like me dating skinny I don't
Starting point is 01:28:04 know I don't think I want to get skinny I don't know the power I would hold I was skinny, yeah, maybe it'd totally be a different world. Like me dating skinny. I don't know. I don't think I want to get skinny. I don't know the power I would hold as a skinny queen. But, um, but also not eating before a date. Like I would just like starve myself. Cause I'm like, this will, I'll look skinnier if I don't eat or whatever, which, you know, it's kind of true. People are like, no, it's not true. But it is like, if you just don't eat before a date, you're gonna look skinnier.
Starting point is 01:28:19 But I don't miss, I know when I met him, I was actually, I was like so skinny actually back then. I was like, oh my God, I wish I was that little now. I mean, not skinny, but I was like definitely under 200 pounds. And I was like, damn. But, um, yeah, I don't miss I know when I met him I was actually I was like so skinny actually back then I was like oh my god I wish I was that little now I mean not skinny but I was like definitely under 200 pounds and I was like damn but um yeah I don't miss any of that or just like the eating habits just anything when you're mentally ill like having them discover that for the first time it's a whole thing because you can't just say it right off the bat they're gonna be scared and so then you have to like then they get introduced to it and then it's just a whole thing it's just a lot also you
Starting point is 01:28:41 can't I've never been able to eat comfortably in front of anyone before Moses so like eating spaghetti all that stuff like that like i just couldn't it's my favorite meal i couldn't do bolognese with somebody you know what i mean because they would just definitely judge me when we eat we eat on the couch in trays and we don't i don't have them look at me i'm always like this and i just shovel it in my mouth i guess sometimes you see me shovel it in my mouth i cut it off with my teeth and then let it drop which is crazy we had an argument oh my god we had an argument to get pasta let's just talk about this on our walk yesterday we've been going on walks and um i don't know how i got product
Starting point is 01:29:09 we're talking about oh like you make bolognese and you love it i'm like oh that's so interesting because you don't like pasta and he's like no i like pasta i just try not to eat it you know too much for like weight gain or whatever and i'm like yeah well because i do make pasta more than him and i'm like well you know i can eat pasta and i don't need the butter on it like you know i just you know put a little parmesan cheese and that's good. Because sometimes I do the butter and everything, the garlic. And he's like, well, it's not the butter that's the issue. It's the pasta. And I was like, I got so mad at him.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I'm like, no, it's not. Like, if you have noodles or noodles with butter, the noodles with butter is clearly worse. And he started telling me, no, it's the pasta that makes you fat and not the butter. I was like, no. I mean, I get it. The pasta can make you fat. But like the butter adds. It's like
Starting point is 01:29:45 popcorn without butter like the popcorn that butter is healthier than popcorn with butter the carbs are in the pasta see I think if you walk because you your body does like need carbs so I get those are the only carbs you're having especially right look literally what other carbs do I eat besides pasta nothing you just eat eat pasta. Your body does need some carbs especially if like after cardio you do need carbs. Yeah we've been doing it. And there's a lot of times like usually when I have pasta
Starting point is 01:30:14 it's like you know to settle my stomach like a lot of times I'll just eat pasta because like I had fried food like we had fried fish and chips. It's like I kind of just want pasta because it just like settles my stomach. Yeah. There is a life hack because I'm also very like carby carby girl. We love a carby. You you're gonna hate it i know but there's like the zucchini like i know immediately no but it comes like pre i buy it like pre like at trader joe's like pre-packaged it's like wet if you put this oh yeah but you're not like saucy girl that's what yeah i like just
Starting point is 01:30:40 plain penne pasta but my other life hack my other skinny hack is the spray, like the butter spray. It's zero calories. So if you just want the taste of butter with zero calories. But I'm fine without butter. That's what I'm saying. Isn't that healthier? That's healthier than with butter. Yeah, without.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Yeah, of course. I can just eat it plain and I will eat a dry pasta all day long. Like I never did butter noodles until like a few years ago. I didn't even know butter was put on noodles. And I'm like, yeah, it's tasty. But I'm fine without the butter. So there's nights where I'll just be like, I don't need the butter on it. I'm just going to do cheese, like a little years ago i didn't even know butter was put on noodles and i'm like yeah it's tasty but i'm fine without the butter so there's nights where i'll just be i don't need the butter on it i'm just gonna do cheese on like a little bit of cheese or whatever and he was trying to tell me that's not the issue it's the pasta i'm like but it is if i'm eating dry pasta
Starting point is 01:31:12 that's healthier than eating buttered pasta i didn't think there was any argument about that are you kidding me that was the whole thing you're like no what and then you were doing the laugh like this laughing and then i yelled at him for it like that's a condescending laugh he's like oh my god you think you think plain noodles is better than butter noodles? And I was like, you're so dumb right now. That was mad. I didn't call him dumb at the moment. But that's what I was inside the rest of the walk.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Because I wanted to say something. I wanted to fight back. I was like, okay, Mr. Healthy, yes, you eat salmon in Poke Bowls. But then you have a Coke right after and an ice cream bar. I'm like, does that make it any better? Like, that sounds like, what? I didn't know you had this judgment about me eating pasta i was just like what the heck like first of all no i think you you confuse my laughter with condescending because i'm not i'm not a condescending person like i don't you know what i mean like in that
Starting point is 01:31:58 conversation doesn't i'm not condescending a little bit i was i was you think that's no you think that's the problem you were caught off guard because i thought you said right away you were like you think that's no you think that's the problem you were caught off guard because i thought you said right away you're like and he was sweet about no no but i thought what you said was that the carbs are not in the pasta that the carbs are only in the butter that's not what i'm saying i'm saying it's healthier to not have the buttered pasta right but i didn't hear that no but you said the issue is not because i'm like oh i'm fine not having butter with it you're like that's not the issue the issue is the the pasta. I'm like, is that the issue? I don't know. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:30 So what I said was I would eat pasta maybe once a week because that's for me manageable. But if I eat it every day, I'll gain weight. So the issue of butter wasn't even in my mind. It was more about how many times I eat pasta in a week. But then, but like having a soda and like chocolate after. That's a different conversation. But do you think that's better than having my noodles? Like I just have noodles and no dessert? No, because I That's a different conversation. But do you think that's better than having my noodles? Like I just have noodles and no dessert?
Starting point is 01:32:46 No, because I wasn't in that conversation. Well, I was a little judgy to be like, well, I only have pasta because I don't want to get wet. I'm like, well, that's why I don't want
Starting point is 01:32:52 a dessert every time because he'll bring my ice cream. I'm like, I don't want a dessert every time because I'd rather have pasta than, and I'm sorry, I think the majority of people would agree
Starting point is 01:32:58 that pasta is better than having Coke and ice cream. Not that I judge you, have whatever. I eat the noodles all day long, but I didn't know
Starting point is 01:33:04 if we're passing judgment against our eating habits over here. But it wasn't you. Have whatever. I eat the noodles all day long, but I didn't know if we're passing judgment against our eating habits over here. It wasn't judgment. It was talking about what has carbs. I don't know. It was the second time you brought up me eating pasta. You brought it up. There was another one. Last week's Hot Topics, you're like, you eat pasta. I was like, oh, damn, okay. No, you ask me what it is
Starting point is 01:33:19 because you actually do eat healthy. I don't eat that much pasta. I have like two pastas a week. I don't eat that much. And I just plain. You do eat healthy. Well, I don't know if I eat healthy. I definitely don't eat healthy. I don't eat that much pasta. I have like two pastas a week. I mean, I don't eat that much. And I just plain. You do eat healthy. Well, I don't know if I eat healthy. I definitely don't eat healthy. No, you do. You don't. Wait, what do I eat that's healthy? No, because you don't eat a lot of processed food. You actually don't eat fast food. That doesn't mean it's not healthy though. Like lasagna.
Starting point is 01:33:35 He just started telling me lasagna is healthy. He's like, lasagna is actually pretty healthy. I'm like, I don't think that's healthy. I think anything we cook at home is healthy. Like we cook it ourselves. It's not processed, but that doesn't mean it's healthy. Exactly. But that's a hundred times better than processed i don't know we have ricotta mozzarella and parmesan in our ground beef tomato crunch i don't think those cheeses are noodles but for me if i eat a lot of pasta and bread i feel bloated like that's what i drink a lot of coca-cola i feel bloated and so that's why i have the mini cokes he had on our walk i was like
Starting point is 01:34:04 i almost snapped back i didn't i had to stay in silence i've always been like well you think walking and having a soda is healthier like it was so hard that i was thirsty most people bring waters on their walk but i stayed cool i was like let me not i was i was ready to have that rebuttal but i was like let me not oh i love fights like that though like they're like in the moment you're like so but then when you look back on it was like oh that's kind of funny i know i know that's what i'm saying i can bring it up now because it is like i didn't even know we were having a fight or anything i thought we were just talking about carbs we were just talking about carbs but then suddenly you were like whoa i've been having such good vibes lately though so that's why i was like
Starting point is 01:34:41 let me just flip this around because the vibes have been so good. He's been so good. Like everything he does is like amazing and he is so sweet and wonderful. So I was like, let me just like not take this so sensitively. I just was like, that doesn't make any sense. Like noodles without butter is healthier than noodles with butter. True. Period. But then.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Hey, well that's all I was trying to have you say and you were trying to be like, no, the popcorn's the issue. Well, I was just talking about how many times. All right. No butter is healthier than a buttered option. I'll get that butter popcorn all day long and I'll get sick every single time. Every time I come home from the movies, I'm so nauseous. I don't know what it is about that butter.
Starting point is 01:35:11 And I always put it on every single time. That butter is really bad. It's so good though. Being fat is not fun. Period. Period. It's not. But also, like I said, I really don't care until I stop to think about it or something.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Then it's like, okay, I don't know. To me, I don't it or something then it's like okay i don't know to me i don't feel it yeah i think i don't know i don't really sometimes i feel it but we have a lot of stairs but i love to eat bb rex i just did an interview um oh on the jennifer hudson show and she was just like it's 2023 why are we body shaming she was i just like to eat and like i don't think there's anything wrong with it and i'm like yes girl that's how i feel bb rex is a cohen and then i saw this like instagram from because i follow like fitness people to like you know for gym stuff and then it was like you need to train your mind to not think of food as pleasure but as survival and i was like i can literally you would have to like hit me over the head with like a freaking crane yeah like give me a lobotomy give me another person's brain
Starting point is 01:36:01 literally that's the only way i think i could i know i don't like yeah to me honestly To me, honestly, I really do love food. It's like such a pleasure. And it's like, yes, maybe I should restrict it a little bit. But I just love it so much whenever, and that's like one thing we do have in common when we make this lasagna. It's like so good. Like, we're just like so decadent. And when he makes me these breakfast wraps, like it's just so good. I don't know what it is. We had master's last night. We had the mac and cheese and it was just like, we just bonded over it. Like, this is so good. It's so yummy. And before mac and cheese and it was just like we just bonded over it like this is so good it's so yummy and before he met me he was just like you know honestly like i just you know didn't like care to eat like you just didn't eat i don't know was it because you just didn't want it or you didn't like it or what or did i is it true what everyone says i just made you eat no i
Starting point is 01:36:37 think as a single person it's very different because like i wouldn't cook for one person like the going to get groceries cooking all that for one person doesn't make sense. Yeah. But when there's more people enjoying it. But you only had like one meal a day when I met you. You were only like dinner or something. No, I think there were times. There were times where I would work all day, get a big lunch towards dinner.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Like, you know, it's more about convenience. You were very thin when I met you. Yeah, I was not eating enough. I love you like this. You look good. I think you look amazing. I think you look good. He is lucky. I mean, he does eat healthy. He does eat like for lunches and stuff like that. He always eats healthy. His only bad habit is like maybe
Starting point is 01:37:13 a Coke every night, which isn't the worst. Also, live your life. Who cares? You know what I mean? I literally never think anything of it. I just wish it was me. I wish I could have. I was at the Sprite Cranberry and that's when I was gaining weight in Christmas time. So it's really just jealousy that you get to have it. Or he'll bring ice cream for me and it's so sweet. And to have to say no is like – it breaks my heart because I'm like, I really do want this.
Starting point is 01:37:32 But that's just more calories and sugar that I don't need on top of my lasagna, on top of my butter noodles. And I'm someone who doesn't have like too much of a sweet tooth. Like I like dessert but I'm not – Oh, you're lucky. Yeah. I have such a sweet tooth. Do you have a sweet tooth? So bad.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Yeah. He has to have candy every night or something like that. Me too. I need a little sweet after dinner. It's good good i like it but i don't crave it all right yes do you care about other couples news speaking of joe and sophie tana um had teased that this was the breakup that was really gonna like shake the internet teasing everything she's on the weeks ago like on the podcast uncanceled um that this would be the breakup that would break the internet. And it was –
Starting point is 01:38:08 Wait, really? Yeah. She said – Soft launching a breakup? Soft launching a breakup. Was it her break? No, she's not dating anyone. Oh.
Starting point is 01:38:14 So, Tati and Natalie from the Vlog Squad have allegedly broken up. Next. Literally, who even – who even knew Tati back then? Like, was he even making content? Does he make content? Literally, what does he do? So boring, both so boring both of them but yes what they broke up not the break of the century sorry i love tana but no i don't know why she was teasing was that you sure that was the one she was talking about people were like wait does she mean joe and so like does she know about joe and sophie maybe she did i'm gonna say that giving you the benefit of
Starting point is 01:38:41 the doubt there's no way to reach out for a statement, but. I didn't know they were dating, didn't know they broke up. Don't care about literally either of them. Well, another vlog squad news. David wants to have a reality show. Do you care about that? No. His other one got canceled. Why are they giving him a reality show?
Starting point is 01:38:56 Seriously, YouTubers need not reality shows. Every single time they get one, they get canceled. And no offense to them. Like, whatever. Like, Grace Helbig had one on E and stuff like that. It just gets canceled right away. You know what I mean? And like, no offense. Like, it's honestly like, I probably get canceled too one on e and stuff like that just gets canceled right away you know what i mean and like no offense like it's honestly like i probably get canceled too hence why i'm like doing this in my basement like i don't even have a tv show so
Starting point is 01:39:10 good for you yeah although we have an israeli tv show coming out in israel tv if you speak hebrew comes out on this fall but um i'm not even the star moses says he was like on the cover which is a flex honestly i was like okay but um yes okay david oh he had a reality show on discovery oh oh yeah it was like a travel was it a travel show i mean how how he got that i have no idea he wants it to be about dough bricks like the pizza shop with like the employees it's like laundering money i feel largely like nobody's going to dough brick pizza for the pizza like dave portnoy who we're gonna talk about in a minute but like he does pizza reviews like this is like it's not it i had it well i had it for a video though you love david though you have a soft spot for him um joey it was we also did like trish can
Starting point is 01:39:53 it was like he did like a like trying influencer things he tried my product yeah i love that what do you say about it um he actually really he loved it it's actually really good yeah did you pick it up yeah no the lady who makes i'm telling you i'm not just saying this because like she has a bunch of products that work great but like trishkin is really the best i mean i use it every single day but yeah i still use it it's good still available on amazon go get it um but he also tried the the dough bricks pizza i liked it i'm not gonna lie to you i did enjoy the pizza i couldn't help it it was expensive though so and you have to go all the way to west hollywood so that's why i. Like location is great. But like who's doing the reality show? Who's the production company?
Starting point is 01:40:27 It's just like his scheme right now. How do you know about this? Are you following him? I read it up. No, I read it. You're following his Snapchat stories? I was researching. But yeah, I did have a – I don't –
Starting point is 01:40:36 You just think he's cute. No, not me. Back in the day, I did. Like in his heyday. Right. But then after like everything fell apart. Catches up to you. The looks wise, if you're not a good person, it's catch up to you after everything fell apart yeah i haven't been able
Starting point is 01:40:48 to feel the same about him since but yeah it's weird though because he's still like very despite like not being on youtube like that's why i think we're talking about like if he's canceled or not i think it was i think it was on it on canceled but yeah um yeah because he still was like very popular you know so yeah it's very weird speaking Speaking of canceled, I have to tell you, I didn't even forgot to tell you when the little dog ran out and you screamed. First of all, that was terrifying. First of all, the Tana experience is wild. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:14 First thing, when there's a lot of people around, I'm not good. Like immediately I'm just like, and she brings an audience, like a just trash audience, which I love. There was like three and I knew all them. Like I was like, okay, Paige and Alexis and Amari, I love all of them. And I love all friends. Truly, truly, truly. Like that little squad over there was like three and I knew all them like I was like okay Paige and Alexis and Amari I love all of them and I love all friends truly truly truly like that little squad over there was great like Amari literally the sweetest person ever like I like when people talk to everyone we talk about this like you know if you're like the main person right and they only want to talk to you and not whatever like I like that they want to talk to everyone like Moses
Starting point is 01:41:39 also like that so like he was having conversations all of them I love that about people and I'm the same way I'm very much the same way I want to talk to every single person. I don't care. You know, I love Tana, but I love everyone else. Trevi was there. There was, it was really. Oh, Trevi was there too? Yeah. She was like, I haven't seen her in so long.
Starting point is 01:41:50 It was so good. I want to have her on the podcast. Of course, I love Lila. Like, I know all these people. And then there was someone I didn't know too. There's an, oh, there's another guy I love too. I can't think of his name. But it was a vibe for sure.
Starting point is 01:41:59 But there's just, it's so much chaos. It's so much chaos happening. Because it's like, so when I saw, like, it would make sense. Not that it's like their house. But I i we have mice in our house i'm like whatever we're in a mountain you know you just get mice whatever so i hate mice he can tell you that like i saw a mouse one time he caught and put it in a rubs bag on the handle of the door lead i was like what the hell is this mouse doing i've seen it in traps like we i see mice it's not a big deal i don't think it's like whatever but it scared me so much because i thought it was a big mouse like a
Starting point is 01:42:23 big rat because no one said there was a dog. Most dog people let you know, hey, there's dogs in the house. No one told me. It was also like late at night and it was dark and we never leave our house past dark time. And I was like, ah, I don't know if it's a coyote coming through. I don't know what was happening. It was so funny because I saw it coming and I knew that the minute it's going to get into
Starting point is 01:42:40 your eyesight, you're going to jump. Why didn't you protect me? This is what I said. You are the one that needs to jump. I would. You are the Kevin Costner to my Whitney Houston. Yeah, but there was no danger there.
Starting point is 01:42:49 You knew it was going to happen. You knew I was going to freak out. You should have jumped on me or something. I knew that would be funny. There was no danger. No, there was danger. Dogs do scare me. I've always been scared of dogs.
Starting point is 01:42:58 It scared me so much. That was a wild podcast. They're so much fun. I love both of them. Oh, my God. It was crazy. Oh, my God. It was crazy. Oh, my God. What a –
Starting point is 01:43:08 I literally – because I was watching it. Me and my boyfriend were watching it. I love that you watch my videos, by the way. You see me all the time and you still watch my videos. Thank you. It's amazing. We were watching it. He was like half paying attention and then that part happened and i literally i'm not even kidding
Starting point is 01:43:25 was laughing so hard i rolled i fell out of bed and i was like crawling because i couldn't breathe it was like so visceral it was the funniest thing i think i've seen in my whole life it was crazy i do love when they happen because like you know in the moment i had to go to the bathroom so bad that whole podcast so i was like thinking it was like not a good podcast on my end and i was just like oh man i should have gone to the bathroom or whatever but i don't like going to the bathroom in other people's houses but then that happened and i was like oh that's cute i love when there's clipable moments oh my god just naturally not trying i hate when people like try to make a clipable moment yeah like try to produce that was like the most genuine well being in a different
Starting point is 01:44:01 environment too is like crazy to me like i don't leave my house like being in a different environment and it's very much sorority vibe, sorority house. Like, you know, and it's fun. Like I said, all her friends are actually like so mature and so sweet. Like it's crazy. I'm so much older, but you're always a little off guard. So like when that happened, I was just like, oh my God, like, you know. Also being on someone else's podcast is a lot of pressure because you're like, oh man, I got to be funny.
Starting point is 01:44:20 I got to make sure this is a good one. It's just a lot. And also just in general, like talking to multiple people, like there's their friends, their friends are coming in. Like there's two hosts. I always say this. It's I'm bad. There's another podcast I did call trash Tuesday a while ago as three co-hosts or three hosts. It's so hard. The Julia Fox went to Nikki and Julia were on either side and she talked to two people. It's so hard. And then you also wonder like, okay, like, I don't know. And then usually they have like their inside jokes, you know? So I get really stressed when there's more than like one host, one person.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Like I really want to bring on these twins on the show. Not Sugar and Spice. Different show. I mean, I'd love to bring them on. But even Sugar and Spice, it's so hard for me to talk to like two people at once. I don't know. You don't want one to feel like you're not paying attention. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:58 That and then they have their own little inside things. So you're just like feel awkward. You're like, sorry, I'm here. Like it's very, it's very that. I mean, I love their vibe. I really do. That's why when we do guests by the way because we're like i missed us here it's just hard for me to like do you know what i mean like most of my husband so it's like fine like if he's not chiming in and he doesn't care but you also you have to
Starting point is 01:45:14 be considerate like okay well like you chime in you are you saying enough whatever so i just like watching that personally i like watching that too but i love that podcast i love the cancel podcast they're they're crushing it so obviously they know what they're doing but with that situation i feel like when there's just two people like you know you could just have conversations the whole time you never need a guest really but yeah i get it spice it up i was honored i was super honored to be it and i would love brooke on mine too for sure but to like together it's just hard you know what i mean yeah and also even when they were here like the energy was like the energy is like off the charts i'm like i don't know it's's like. I was shaking after.
Starting point is 01:45:45 I was so tired. I was shaking. I was like in bed shaking. I was like, what do you want to eat? And we were eating takeout. Again, amazing. Couldn't eat pasta with bolognese. So he was just so great.
Starting point is 01:45:56 But I was like shaking. I couldn't move out of my bed. It was very weird. And it was great. Like you said, it was great. But there is so much energy and so much good energy. And everyone's excited and I'm excited. I was just like dying afterwards.
Starting point is 01:46:08 And so then when I went the next night, I must have been on adrenaline because I was like, all right, here we go. Round two. She's great. And Tana really is the ultimate podcast guest. She gets everyone just a million views. She's just entertaining. And she just says whatever. And to be 25 again.
Starting point is 01:46:18 I love being 25 and saying whatever. I wish I had the tact in class Tana has because I was a little more messy. I also have a mental illness. Everyone really wants you and her to do like another podcast though it should be but I feel like everyone's doing a podcast Jeff was supposed to do a podcast with her she's just I think she's just so she's so into me she yes she is she went from my podcast to Whitney Cummings that same night crazy me and Whitney dropped podcast same day with Tana I was like okay it was she's amazing then she went to like a Zach Ryan concert I'm like girl I love it
Starting point is 01:46:43 booked and busy I would love to I I love doing podcasts they're so much fun and yeah i would do it with anybody clearly not you that was a shade at someone else that was a shade at someone else um it wasn't shade was it i don't know i would do one with moses no i don't like couples podcasts but i would do one with you honestly if this didn't work out i was gonna do one with moses i'm like, God, I think you're my only hope at this point. We're just too, um, we just, we just agree on too many things. Yeah. We kind of agree on most things. Except pasta. He doesn't like my pasta eating habits. Um, but yeah, David, I don't think he's going to get a reality show. I honestly think he's, and I can say this too,
Starting point is 01:47:21 maybe because I'm also a liability, too much of a liability. I think he's just I can say this too maybe because I'm also a liability too much of a liability I think he's just like again I don't think he's canceled I think he should just be like banished from like the world you know what I mean like there are certain people that like okay get canceled for making a bad joke or something but he's like he literally almost like took someone's life a couple times you know what I mean like not allegedly like it was on camera and I'm just like how is this just because also here's another thing. Okay. Yes. Accidents so happen. And like, I think if he was just like, yeah, it was a really bad accident. Like that sucked. Like I'm not never vlogging again. And he did stop. It's like, own up to it. Pay for your friend when you're literally so rich. Like what, what? I don't know. Unless it's admitting guilt. I have no idea. I don't
Starting point is 01:48:01 know that whole situation when people don't take accountability at all, like, I don't like it. Like, even if you're, you know, even if you're, like, not in the wrong, like, take some accountability. You hurt someone's feelings. You did something. You literally almost took someone's life. Like, you took someone's eye. And then just see the person just thriving that did it.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Yeah. And really take, you know, really. And he blamed Jeff. I mean, we go back to it back and forth. But he literally blamed Jeff. He, like, doubled down and was like, well, Jeff, like, wanted to do it. I'm like, bleh. I hate it so much like
Starting point is 01:48:25 there's certain people that are canceling this whatever and like you don't like them or whatever but then there's certain people that should just be banished I don't say that about many people but I think he's one of those people are you gonna invite Jeff on the podcast oh god well straight man energy I don't know if I can take fully like I said unless you're Dr. Drew this licensed therapist who's literally paid to like listen to you. I don't know. I don't know if the vibe would be there. I have like, I'm so curious and I have like so many questions like, you know, just in general.
Starting point is 01:48:52 But. I imagine like Jeff there and then Tana in this seat over here being like the media. Right, right. I kind of love it though. She is kind of like the ultimate hype. Yeah. He'd have to come here. I don't think I could do his podcast.
Starting point is 01:49:04 I would be like going into like the lion's den of straight men. I think, yeah. He'd have to come here. I don't think I could do his podcast. I would be like going into like the lion's den of straight men. I think, yeah, he would have to come here. Podcast swaps are an interesting thing though. Like it's very interesting. I mean, I literally only did the one with Tana, but I don't think I could do it with anyone else. Like I want people to come on my podcast. I don't want to.
Starting point is 01:49:15 I've been, so many people, so many Spotify podcasts, by the way, everyone's like, I'm like, where is it? They're like downtown Spotify. And I was like, why do they? I know. I'm not doing Spotify podcast because they didn't want my podcast. Okay. Spotify, I'm over you. Unless you want to give me $60 million for this
Starting point is 01:49:27 podcast. In which case, then we'll talk. Yeah, David. What would the reality show entail? Was he like selling Sunset? Like selling Dobricks? Yeah, that's exactly what he wanted it to be. No. Yeah, I'm surprised he said that. No, really? About like the employees at Dobricks. Are they like hot? I don't know. I don't know. Like I said, I went
Starting point is 01:49:43 that one time and it was just like, I mean's a tiny little thing like there was like one person at the register then one person or two maybe two cooking the pizzas but it was really tiny and they were out of breadsticks they're always out of something there really so sus yeah um dave portnoy was kicked off sidewalk for eating pizza he's wild i don't know i don't really have feelings about this either way i just kept seeing it all over my for you page just eating pizza. He's wild. I don't know. I don't really have feelings about this either way. I just kept seeing it all over my For You page. Me too. Just eating pizza.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Did you saw it? Yeah. Okay, we're on the same TikTok them. Well, I was like researching because I was, I kind of try to look up like the buzzy topics
Starting point is 01:50:15 and I get a lot of, it's like a website that has a lot of straight male like people too. Oh my God, what do you want? What's it called? Straight male news? It's called Digzerto
Starting point is 01:50:21 or something. What? Yeah, it has a lot of like TikTok, TikToker news and it's like 80 like straight guys straight guy tiktok so they're talking about day porno yeah didn't he get like confront when he got confronted he like got pizza and then the pizza came out just started like yelling at him like randomly like don't go my he's like enjoy your pizza like any other customer but don't get on my sidewalk and then day porno like who are you they just started
Starting point is 01:50:40 like yelling at her it was very weird and then there's like five different angles like people filming this i'm like this is so bizarre i don't get day porno but apparently he's not for me to get but he's like reviews pizza but i'm like i'd never heard of this and he left like a bad review and that's why why don't they even have the pizza yet oh but maybe what we were thinking is maybe the guy knew his pizza was bad and so he was just like no he's gonna get this bad review so he came out was like i don't know that's the only thing i could think of but um i love his girlfriend that's all i don't know anything else about him her name's sylves on tiktok and i follow her all the time and i'd have her on but she's always like in the hamptons or wherever they live nantucket and just
Starting point is 01:51:11 living her bougie life and i'm like gosh goals so i know we've been talking a lot about like you know where gabby hannah is and hopefully she's okay and so spill sash gets so many views and doesn't even show her face i'm like that's what there's no production value she's like but her editing is like really good though i will say like she to me i look at everything looks the same like even your work i know you do good but i'm always like i don't know boss i don't know editing i literally don't know i guess if you actually like once you like know like how each little cut takes forever like you kind of know i guess did she get nominated for a streamy she should she should I honestly think she should who is it you know no
Starting point is 01:51:45 but she seems really sweet I want to know her identity so bad she's nice she's pretty nice to me for most of the part so I'm like I kind of want to know
Starting point is 01:51:51 who it is everything I've seen she's very like fair I think like yeah which I really appreciate and she does like really good research
Starting point is 01:51:57 right and she's the only one talking about this I saw the Gabby Hanna update we talked about it and I'm like oh my gosh we got an update
Starting point is 01:52:02 she resurfaced I know I was shocked she was on a podcast she was on this like sauna podcast i want to be on that podcast their feet were like soaking do you know who it is you know what that podcast name is like trying to look um i was like looking into him to see like i'm like how did he even like get gabby like seeing the connection but it's just as like uh he does all his podcasts he does like
Starting point is 01:52:21 self-care it's like sauna spa, spa. It's like sauna talk. So they like – Is that what it's called? Yeah. Okay. Love that. So like they'll film the podcast in the sauna. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 01:52:31 I love it. I love it. So maybe they're just like friends who are like – Yes. But it's so weird because he's not like a super like big – like it only gets a few hundred views and stuff. Maybe better on audio. A few hundred?
Starting point is 01:52:40 Really? Yeah. Oh, it looks like good production quality. I know. So maybe it like does – I don't know if the audio – I don don't know but even like he's not active on like instagram or twitter even anymore either so i'm like how did they like cross paths interesting maybe just like a fan like she was maybe a fan of him yeah maybe she yeah that could honestly be it but she was on this podcast in june and it's just so small like it's just no one knew really knew about it but um spills just found this
Starting point is 01:53:03 video and um covered it and because a lot of people have been wondering where yeah same i was like where is she yeah she never pops up on anything like tiktok twitter no and she i don't think she's posted all maybe like in beginning of the i think it's been like seven or so months since she's posted anything she kind of just been like off yeah i watched the clips from spill sash i didn't i didn't find the actual podcast and she just said she's just like this this is really her year of rest. I'm honestly very happy that Gabby's doing well, honestly. No matter how
Starting point is 01:53:30 you find, like, you know, your peace or whatever, like, if you find it, I think that's great. She's, like, very religious now. She talks about how, like, she like, God really has given her, like, a purpose. Religious or spiritual? I think it's specifically about God. So I think it's, like, more religious. Yeah. And how and how like that's the first thing in the morning that she does is like
Starting point is 01:53:49 thank god for being alive and when she goes to bed she's like you know okay god i'll see you tomorrow like that's always like her first beginning end of the day okay um just my it's weird i had like a little bit of drama with gabby i know obviously you have to what she called you oh sinister sinister i see it i feel it get you on that demon time with doja and beyonce yeah that's my demon but despite everything i don't know it was just nice to see her be like at peace and like just chill yeah not talking about drama it's not here i'm back to drama talking but yeah yeah and i don't know i think i'm just i'm relieved especially because the last time we really saw her active was like the TikTok situation where she was like posting like crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Yeah. That's what I was like. And this is why I have a soft spot with Gabby because it's like, that's when I was like concerned because I know that type where it's like, yes, maybe you're more in control than people think. Maybe you're not. But also maybe you're just like, you're getting off on the spiraling and maybe you're actually spiraling, but you're like, oh, I'm profiting, but I'm in control of this. Like you think you're in control, but you're not like, I know how that feels because like I that that was me for so many years so I feel like that's why we've always butted heads too like we're very similar but like also see things very differently so yeah I always had a
Starting point is 01:54:53 soft spot for her too and when that happened I was like dang like I get it I get it on both points she's like getting a lot of views and probably a lot of money so like I we're similar in that sense and she's talked about it too where it's like you know that's validating but on the other hand she might actually be spiraling there might actually be something wrong and no one's there for her she's letting random people in you know she just had a breakup all money so like i we're similar in that sense and she's talked about it too where it's like you know that's validating but on the other hand she might actually be spiraling there might actually be something wrong and no one's there for her she's letting random people in you know she just had a breakup all the stuff like that where i was like damn i'm like really scared and then for her to disappear it's like if i were to disappear right like if i just stopped posting for seven months people would be like what the fuck happened you know because you post not only
Starting point is 01:55:18 are you posting consistently you're posting more than anyone else on the app you're posting 100 tiktoks a day you know and so i always think like, yeah, what happened? And like, she seemed, she seemed to like it, maybe not towards the end. She seemed to like, you know, making content and stuff like that. So you always wonder what happened. So yeah, to see her on the podcast, she, she looked really great. She seemed great. I think when you find God or any sort of spirituality, like it helps ground you in some sense and whether or not you believe in God or think it's real, like at least it grounds people. So when people get so mad at people for believing in god or heaven i'm like sometimes you just need something to get you through life you know even if it's not real at the end to get you through
Starting point is 01:55:51 this world like you need to believe that some people need to believe that i need to believe it i'm like okay something there's a greater being than this life you know yeah i think it really seems to have given like a given her a purpose which i think is great and i think it really seems to have given her a purpose, which I think is great. And I think as long as any religion or anything that you believe in isn't actively harming anyone else, I think then more power to you. Totally, yeah. I don't know. I was genuinely really happy for her watching it. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Me too. And I love that Spill Shots covered it because I'm like, there's people who genuinely like her. And even if you don't like her, she's just been around for so long. You're just like, oh, I hope she's like, OK. Yeah. As long as you hope that she's like, well, at least especially like knowing how things were the last time that you really saw her.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Yeah. You know. And being able to just like rest is like good, you know, like taking a year off. Yeah. Actually, especially that's very healthy, too, because it's like in the content creation thing, I feel like there's such like a it's like need to I feel like you have to keep going, keep reinventing bigger and bigger and better content, you know? No, I think that's really great.
Starting point is 01:56:51 I know. I always wonder that too. I'm always like – like I said, when I win the lottery, like I'm always just like, am I going to just take off? I don't think I would. Like even if I'm living my most fabulous life, traveling to Italy and Paris and all these luxury things, like I still would want to like vlog or I don't know. Like you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:57:03 I don't know. Anytime I think about taking a break or want to take a break, I like, I'm like, okay, when I, you know, when I gave birth, I'm like, I want to just take a couple of weeks off. But I don't know. Like I want to check in. I don't know. There is like, I don't know if that is an addiction. I don't know what that is, but, um, but I get it.
Starting point is 01:57:15 Like, I think it's good. Honestly, I don't know what I would do. I always think that with people when they just stop posting content, like probably it is for the better, like for their mental health and everything. Maybe they're just like living their best life. But I'm like, what do you do? Like I would not know what – like Jenna Marble is like – I would love her on the back.
Starting point is 01:57:28 What is she doing? That's a – that is such a good question. I guess she's just – because Julian is still doing content. Oh, is he? Yeah. He still does like YouTube and Twitch. So he's still like – Oh, does he talk about her?
Starting point is 01:57:38 No, I don't think so. Crazy. Yeah. So I think she's just like living her life I guess. But yeah, I guess – me too. I get kind of bored when I'm not like working really, which could be unhealthy. But I don't know. I feel like I have to do something.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Do something. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's finding that balance. Yeah. We have a good balance. Like I do work a lot, but then I feel like I take a lot of time off too. I feel like I'm a lot of times we're just like chilling and swimming in the pool.
Starting point is 01:58:00 But then those moments like, I guess it's like where you find the balance. Get that through back on. How do we balance this? We didn't figure that out. Because when I am in the pool, sometimes I'm like, I guess it's like where you find the balance. Get that through back on. How do we balance this? Because when I am in the pool, sometimes I'm like, oh my God, I should be making contact or something.
Starting point is 01:58:09 But yeah, I don't know. Balance. At night, we just shut off. We shut off the phones. Six o'clock, we just, you know, make lasagna, watch Home Improvement. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:17 But yeah, good. I'm glad. Yeah. Soft spot for Cappy. And I thought she was talented. I thought she had good music. I thought she was, you know, talented.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Remember that one dope thing where it's like, gotta, gotta, out of body, rock a body, down and down. You remember that little soft – wait, no? It was like a roast of herself, but then she went to this whole like Lin-Manuel thing and it was – she's like in a white room and then she's like, I gotta rock without a body, gotta, out of body, down and down. No. It's kind of a smash.
Starting point is 01:58:43 Like I think the Vine brothers did a reaction to it. Like she was good. She was like talented and like – I think the Fine Brothers did a reaction like she was good she was like talented and like I think she's very captivating too the fact that she can be gone
Starting point is 01:58:49 people are still like wondering no anyone who can be polarizing or like you said captivate an audience for just being themselves like is pretty cool it's a talent to itself
Starting point is 01:58:58 much like me and finally Eight Passengers we have eight minutes to talk about Eight Passengers this is ick This is ick. This is ick on so many levels.
Starting point is 01:59:06 I actually like hate this one. And this is like a dark topic too. I don't like this darkness. I feel like we have lights literally, but I feel like the darkness is coming in. This eight passengers, Ruby Frankie, Ruby Frank. Yeah. Soup was the first one on this. Soup had a video from like eight months ago about this lady.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I only saw one video. We saw one video of her on TikTok and it was the one where her daughter forgot to pack her lunch yeah and she was like and she like was vlogging about this like gloating thinking this is the best parenting move she goes i told the teacher like i'm sorry if that makes you uncomfortable but i'm not bringing her food and i'm just like so i didn't know anything about this person i thought it was like a one-off video and this person like disappeared or something like that but she like did not bring her daughter lunch because she forgot to pack her six-year-old daughter and i was like you're literally the mom that's literally a child.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Of course, they're going to forget to pack their lunch. You're going to forget a lot of things because they're a child. So I guess she like starves her children. So she got arrested to account two counts of abuse, aggravated abuse. Yeah. Something. And she got arrested. And who is the woman that got arrested with her?
Starting point is 01:59:58 So it's her business, kind of like business partner. What business do they have? So they have this like platform or channel called Connections connections and it's kind of like allegedly culty people pay these like crazy like um up to like five thousand dollars i think to have like it's like coaching this like life coaching five thousand per person uh yeah for like the month yeah get into that you can pay like five thousand dollars to get this like spiritless um coaching so yeah, that was the other lady that was also arrested with her. What'd she get arrested for? Same thing.
Starting point is 02:00:28 I think the two acts of child endangerment or neglect or whatever. But with this lady's child. They weren't her children. The Frankie children. Yeah. But why did she get arrested? I don't get why the other woman. I think they were at her.
Starting point is 02:00:39 I'm not 100% sure what. It was like she was either aware of it or it was at her property. Something like that. What about the dad? So the dad had separated a while ago from her um i mean they're very i think they're mormon and they're involved with like the church of latter-day saints so it's like the separation divorce is like very no no so they haven't like ever said they were but they live separate like um separate lives they don't have their wedding rings on or anything. And one of the older kids lives with him.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Chad lives with the dad. Yeah. He got a lot of like the abuse on camera too. Like literally – do you see the one with the homework? I mean the dad was part of that though where they have the homework in the bag and like you have to do – you have to pay the money or do chores equivalent to get your homework back. I was like, what?
Starting point is 02:01:19 Like this kid is going to like fail school because you're not giving him his homework? Like I mean that's crazy. One that is allowed on the platform YouTube. But like how did no one step in before like any of this stuff? I think they're on for like seven years or something. So how are they posting for so long? How do they have two million subscribers? Oh, I just –
Starting point is 02:01:34 It's like evil vibe. Like you said, it's like evil. It's evil. I got like that too. I just saw the clip resurface of Nikki Philippi. Do you remember her? Yeah. And Dan Philippi.
Starting point is 02:01:42 And they were talking about – they were going to adopt from like – I think it was Thailand. Was it Thailand? And then they were literally like, oh my god adopt from like I think it was Thailand was it Thailand and then they were literally like oh my god they like we're going to go pick up the child and everything like that but they're not going to like let us film him for a year like I'm sorry like I'm a vlogger I was like what is wrong with
Starting point is 02:01:56 people like the fact that not only did they think that sounded like a rational thing like to adopt a kid and like whatever but to like say it and like talk about it I'm like how are these people not like a danger to themselves'm like how how are these people not like a danger to themselves or society like how are they not being like locked up yeah like that's crazy you're gonna you're running through this whole adoption process and then you just decided no actually i'm not gonna adopt this kid because we can't film him it's really sick and that's why
Starting point is 02:02:16 it's like i get the concern with like family vloggers and stuff i think it's different right because there's people who like post their kids like and like it's just like a part of their lives but i think it's different when you your whole like bread and butter is the kid like you rely on the kids that's for everything yeah i didn't know the connotation because like honestly we changed our name to family channel because i thought it was like a cute thing right like a family channel it's cute i didn't realize like the darkness of family channels as far as like what it means to be a family channel and i was just like okay i'm like switching it back honestly i haven't even posted there it's cute to post like old things here and there or whatever but I'm just
Starting point is 02:02:45 like oh like the disgusting things these like vloggers do these like family vloggers I was like oh yeah they're literally having kids to monetize to profit off of and I'm like okay that is like so so disgusting yeah and does take away it does it is annoying because it's kind of like oh like the people who do post then you're just like with this group of people that like you know they're filming their kids doing gymnastics class I'm like of all, there's other kids in the background. They're in, you know, just all this stuff. I mean, how is that? I don't get it.
Starting point is 02:03:10 But it's like this lady is so insane. So she was like starving because the kids like ran out of the house and then went next door to get asked for food and water. Yeah. So she was using all kind of crazy forms of punishment, but they are holding out food. So one of the daughters escaped and was able to ask for help and she had like open wounds she was malnourished she had like marks of like being duct taped so like just very much like abused once the cops were called then they also found another uh child that was i was like a different property too that
Starting point is 02:03:41 was had the same um the same signs of abuse, like malnourished, open wounds, the tape. And then in the investigation, they found like the tools that were like used to make those marks. They haven't said like what it was specifically yet. Oh my God. Yeah. So all the kids have been – the younger kids have all been taken – put into different
Starting point is 02:04:00 custody. I think either a different family member or somewhere else. But – The older kids are like – the one like that the story was like finally like you know getting arrested once they hit 18 they were able to like be free oh so some of them are over 18 now there's the oldest daughter she's the one that posted like um the update about her family but she has been like talking like she's been anti like the connections like that whole culty thing she's been speaking out about that before and then the son the older son chad was with the father does the dad say anything because he was also
Starting point is 02:04:28 part of these blogs i know you know anything and he hasn't been like arrested or charged i'm sure there's like an investigation going into him but so far it's just the mom and then the business literally like child abuse on camera and like no one did anything or say anything for so long well there was a moment where um people called in to have c come, but they didn't have enough evidence to do anything. So she must be thinking she's like being a good parent. Like she's showing this is a good parenting style. Like she must think in her head like – because I was thinking that too. I was like why would someone do this?
Starting point is 02:04:53 Like why are you starving your children? Why don't you like give them up for adoption or something? Like why is it like she takes pleasure in abusing them or is she thinking like this is a good parenting technique? Like they're going to have strict values. Like they're going to – like I don't understand. I don't understand well she i honestly think that there's some i don't know there's some kind of like brainwash kind of thing to think that that's like the right thing to do uh it's just crazy that this she had the channel for so long and it took like up to 2021
Starting point is 02:05:18 to like finally when the kids are adults like the kids are adults yeah it's it's so weird and you're right it's like it makes it lumps everyone in like if you have like a family channel even if it's like you know wholesome of course or just anything because your kids are like oh my god you're using them for that man i was like oh my god using for profit i was like oh my god it's so weird and but i get it because these people are psycho like honestly the family vlogger thing when you have your kids and like all these things like you're psycho and it's not just like in passing like oh like we're having lunch or something it's just like literally making them like the star of the videos and and the thumbnails it reminds me
Starting point is 02:05:51 of like weirdly like joey's like videos with the puppies like because you have to like do extreme things with like the dogs to like you know have the title of the thumbnail whatever right but then when you do that with like a human being it's like so it's like very sick and like very dystopian because you're also like she would kind of like you said like we were having like the clips right like producing the moment so you'd have to like do whatever with the kids to like have that clickbait and that title and it's just if you're gonna like sit down and like have punish your kids on camera if you're gonna like the first time shaving on camera like all this stuff like making content out of it uh it creeps me out to no end and anyone who watches it i'm sorry but that is like if you're watching people punish their like on that level it's like don't
Starting point is 02:06:35 support that no it's so weird oh my god so she's gonna go to prison or what's happens like you get arrested in that one then you're like released and then you have to wait your trial date or something that whole i'm so you get arrested and then you have to get bailed out yeah and then you're like released and then you have to wait your trial date or something. Yeah, that whole – I'm sure it's a whole investigation. And then you have to get bailed out. Yeah. And then you can kind of chill for a while and then you go get your – Yeah, then you go on trial and then all that stuff. It's literally so heartbreaking. Like it's crazy.
Starting point is 02:06:54 That's what we're talking about. Like, you know, that's what jades these kids because, you know, like I was talking about how your babies are just so full of love. They love everybody. They don't see judgment. And then like stuff like this happens and then you start feeling paranoid or judgy of the world because of the stuff that happened to you. And it just sucks.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Yeah. It's crazy how these people can just like anyone can have a baby. It's like some people really just shouldn't. No, especially – I don't know. I don't like – she made millions off of her kids. Like there are people – brand deals for this – I don't get it. I don't understand how all this happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Right. When she's doing this stuff, it's like there's no punishment strong enough for this crime of like child abuse like honestly that's when you just are like in prison like let them deal with it you know because i know prisoners like they don't take no shit for like if you mess with children like abuse them in any way like especially like starving them and stuff and it's like she looks i mean again she's obviously not normal but she looks like just a normal person like i was just like what this lady like you know that's why you shouldn't judge the look. So she is psychotic. She has crazy eyes.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Her eyes are crazy eyes. They're so scary. I'm just like, she scares me. That's like the devil. That's like, too many devil things. Let's sage it.
Starting point is 02:07:56 Gabby Hanna. We need the God. I'm all about the universe that God. Yeah. Cleanse this room with sage and love. And Pete and Moe's just like, I need to stop this camera.
Starting point is 02:08:10 This was a great episode, you guys. If I do say so myself. No sponsor this week, but we will have sponsors soon. Thank you guys for the love and support. As always, thank you for everything. Good vibes only today. We are sending you so many good vibes and spiritual blessings and love. And just be yourself and be kind. And that's it. It's just Trish.

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