Just Trish - Trisha FINALLY Met Gerard Way + JoJo Siwa's Romance With Chris Hughes Gets WEIRDER
Episode Date: June 11, 2025Trisha's most powerful manifestation finally came true... she met Gerard Way. But did the My Chemical Romance frontman run away in fear like fans speculated he would? Plus, JoJo Siwa's romance with Ch...ris Hughes gets even weirder after the "Karma" singer exposes their relationship timeline. And Trish gets cast in 'Ma 2' as Octavia Spencer's enemy, SIS. 💕🪩Watch Eras of Trish Live Stream June 25 - https://erasoftrish.com 💖🪩THANK YOU TO OLIPOP FOR SPONSORING!💖🪩 Get a free can of OLIPOP!: Buy any 2 cans of Olipop in store, and Olipop will pay you back for one. Works on any flavor, any retailer! Visit https://drinkolipop.com/TRISH 💖🪩THANK YOU TO GOLDEN NUGGET FOR SPONSORING!💖🪩 New players, download the Golden Nugget Online Casino app, use promo code JUSTTRISH and get 350 Spins on a featured game INSTANTLY with a first deposit of just five bucks. 💖🪩SUPPORT MUTUAL AID & GENERAL FUNDS FOR MIGRANT COMMUNITIES!💖🪩 https://linktr.ee/desolasol_colectiva / desolasol.colectiva 💖🪩SUPPORT TRANSLIFELINE!💖🪩 https://translifeline.org/ 💖🪩NEW JUST TRISH MERCH!💖🪩 https://justtrish.com Sponsor Just Trish: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/just-trish-podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hi everyone, welcome to Just Trish.
Before we get into the show,
we just wanted to put a disclaimer saying that
our hearts are with everyone
in support of all the immigrants here in Los Angeles.
It's a very scary time right now in our city.
And we are just sending all of our
thoughts and we have a lot of emotion going on in here today and we were
talking about it before the show and obviously doesn't feel right to just get
into the show without acknowledging this devastation that's happening, this
tragedy and just this it's it feels it feels surreal it feels like an unreal
world we're living in and I don't have the words, obviously,
to talk about these things.
It's just really, really hard.
We were talking about it together.
Oscar is obviously more articulate than me
about these things.
So yeah, we're just expressing our emotions
and how we're feeling today.
And it's heavy.
It's a heavy day.
Yes, if the vibe is a little off,
me especially, like as a second generation Latino immigrant,
my Latino ancestry has always been very, very important to me growing up, even though I
am considered a white Latino, obviously, and I recognize that.
But culturally, being Cuban, being Peruvian has always been such a big part of my life.
I learned about being an immigrant very, very early on in my childhood from my grandparents.
And I grew up in a town that's 55% Latino.
So yeah, it's very heavy on my heart,
but I'm really excited because I kind of need a distraction.
This weekend's been really tough
and I just want like laughing key a little bit.
I feel like that's what everyone kind of needs right now
anyways, so I'm ready to giggle.
It's been a second since I've giggled.
I feel like I haven't even seen you in so long. It's been literally a week, week, right? Yeah, like aiggle. It's been a second since I've giggled. I feel like I haven't even seen you in so long.
It's been literally a week, week, right?
Yeah, like a week. It's been just a week,
but it feels way longer for some reason.
And whenever I'm away, it feels very long,
and I know I've missed it too,
and everything has just been, it's just been a lot.
Yes. And, yeah, I missed you.
I missed you too.
And yeah, hopefully we can, you know,
provide some sort of- You always get a little
giggle out of me.
Yeah, well, a big giggle.
Everyone misses the Oscar giggle.
Clock, oh my God.
Rodeo trial. Her name is Trish, she's got the fish and all the gossips Filthy rich, pretty and pink
Hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks
She's just Trish
She's just Trish
Alright you guys, welcome back to Just Trish
I am very excited to be back
We have finished the Eras of Trish Tour
It's the end of an era
End of an era!
Literally! And it's... Yeah! Someone asked me like what's the end of an era. End of an era, literally. Oh my gosh.
And it's, yeah, someone asked me like,
what's the next era?
And I was like, I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I feel like I've done every era that I've ever wanted to do,
but if you missed the Eras of Trish tour,
don't worry, you guys.
Go to erasotrish.com today.
Tickets are on sale now.
We did a...
Sorry.
We had 40 more shows.
I'm done.
No, even better.
We have a live stream of our Boston show,
Pro Shot, audience reaction.
In 3D.
Yes.
Oh, that's a good idea.
We should have done the 3D.
That's where it's at.
I should tell them.
Go to erasotrish.com.
You can get an exclusive merch package.
You can get the streaming ticket plus the merch that's only available online that was
not available on our Eras of Trish tour.
We filmed Boston and it was a good one and I got to see the full shot, the full documentary
and it's really good.
So if you missed it, like Oscar, you had a reason.
Get those tickets.
Are you going gonna buy one?
By the way, just so it doesn't... You always try to kill him.
Me? No!
When you did Broadway and I couldn't go, I watched it. It's the same company. I watched
it online and it was amazing.
Yes, the same company is doing it.
It was like watching a feature movie.
Yes, and Oscar was at the front one, I'm just kidding.
People, I hate when I'm like, me to you or Moses.
I realized I wasn't trying to come across Shady.
It was a key, yes.
It was a key, it's supposed to be.
I just come across like a book.
And they also, not only the quality was amazing,
they have a chat at the side of the video.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so you were like in the chat.
We'll be in the chat too.
We'll be there too.
Yeah, I think it's five p.m. Pacific Standard Time,
eight p.m. Pacific Standard Time. On June 25th, the stream is happening. We'll be in too. Yeah, I think it's 5 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, 8 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.
On June 25th, the stream is happening.
We'll be in the live chat.
Took a two hour long thing, so we'll be chatting all night.
Make your Bolognese, get some popcorn ready.
Ooh, we could stream it, yeah.
I only know how to stream on TikTok.
I don't know how to stream anywhere else,
but we could stream it, that'd be fun.
Oh yeah. So, get your tickets today,
erasatrish.com.
The tour is not over yet.
There's still more going on. One last hurrah. Yes, one last hurrah. I don't know when it's, Iasatrish.com. The tour is not over yet. There's still more going on.
One last hurrah.
Yes, one last hurrah.
I don't know when it's, I don't know how it works.
I don't know how long it's available for, but.
Yeah, so if you're in Florida,
you can actually watch the tour now.
Yeah, so sorry to all my Floridians out there,
but it was great.
It's so, so sad it's over.
I'm truly sad.
I think I'm gonna have a little bit of depression
for like a good week after this,
because it's like, wow, you get, so you know, you're surrounded by love everywhere, and it's just like wow everyone just like whatever
I'm not that I'm not surrounded by love here, but it's a different. It's a different type. You know what I mean there
It's just like it's calling it's a morning phase like there's every big project when it's over like you really you mourn
End of it. That's how it feels it feels. That's why everything. Yeah, I was just like wow I feel a little sad about it, but
We got lots of gifts and we will play show you on the next one because there's just so much to go over in this episode. I separated this. It's late too,
because we started late. We landed late. We were early. There was like so much happening there.
So a little happiness from Ben Verde, the show guest of of the show really. He's been on the show, he surprised me.
He's so sweet.
I didn't know he was gonna be there.
I always offer him tickets in VIP
if he just wants to come to a show,
but he did it himself.
Oh my God.
So you opened one, you got the blue one,
which is our baby.
I got the blue, so these are the secret ones.
He was like, he says it goes viral when you open these,
like people love these, so I was excited.
I wanted to open it.
Big into energy, I'm scared.
What does it say? Big into energy.
Yes, this is the new the new collection
It is part of my hot topics too. I'm scared for
I know me too because I mean we'll see what it is
But there was one thing that Jimmy sent me he sent me a lububu like hot topic and I was like, was it James?
Yes
James Charles? Yes. Yes. He killed the meme. I'm like the I was like, yes, yes, yes.
He killed the meme.
I'm like, okay.
So he got like three big boxes, right?
Of from, I guess, from the company.
The first one he opens is the gray one with the rainbow.
I have no idea.
He doesn't even know what it is.
I have, and then, and then each one he opened was basically in one box.
He had one of each.
Mathematically, statistically impossible.
The company basically sent him a box that had one of each.
Allegedly, in your opinion.
In my absolute opinion.
First of all, Jimmy sent that to me and I was like, Jimmy,
way to ruin my day. I was already going through it.
I was like, Jimmy, this is the last thing I need to see right now is James Charles getting a pop
Boo boo wasn't from pop my proper though, cuz I didn't actually watch it. I just saw the thumbnail
It's like a knockoff version. Well, I thought maybe he like bottom like second say it like, you know
It's no way cuz you can buy them from like store
They're like mark no, but I mean the chances that he'll buy a box and it will be exactly one of each.
Oh, well the boxes have one of each
every time you buy a box,
but then the odds of getting the secret are one in 72.
Wait, what does that mean?
You get one every time you buy a box.
So you get one of every normal color
when you buy a box of the Boo-Boos.
And then there's a one in 72 chance
that you get the gray one with the rainbow.
But you're saying he had the gray one every time in the box. No, no, the first one you opened was the gray one. Oh, that you get the gray one with the rainbow. But you're saying he had the gray one every time
in the box.
No, no, the first one he opened was the gray one.
Oh, he only got one gray one.
Yeah.
But my conspiracy is, I mean, I didn't watch it,
but the fact that he opened is like,
oh, what's this rainbow one with the,
I feel like that's, it's kind of giving me production.
It's kind of giving me,
I don't trust anything you say in general anyway,
so I'm just gonna believe that you're right.
Right. Yeah.
And when he was showing it,
he was talking to so many people around him, it was a production. It was not like I'm just gonna believe that you're right. Yeah, and when he was showing it, he was talking to so many people around him,
it was a production.
It was not like, I'm just home alone making this.
It kind of reminds me of the little bit
that Drew Afuelo and Vanilla Mace,
they did the podcast.
They collaborated, I didn't see that.
Yes, and they opened up the same Skullcandy blind box
and it was the one from the Vanilla Mace meme,
and I feel like that was a little production thing.
They were in there like, let's give them the same one so they can have that same
No, they like had a someone in their production like bottom and they
Unboxing so that was my theory that it was just like a little production thing to spice it up, you know
Okay, I'm gonna I'm choosing to believe cuz I hate there's already enough bad vibes in the world
I don't need to see something good happen to someone terrible.
So I'm choosing to believe it was a setup.
I'm choosing to believe it was James Charles.
I think so.
Okay, okay.
Well, you guys gonna, okay, you open,
okay, show yours, one, two, three.
Oh, which one is that?
Oh, it's like a peach one.
Happiness, that's very sweet.
Oh, I love it.
Is that your first LaBooBoo?
Yeah, your first real LaBoop?
Whoa, I mean.
No, no, no, no.
This is the original.
No negative energy in this room, okay?
That one's scary, yeah.
Okay.
That's a cute one.
You look cute with the Labooboo over there.
Okay, love it.
I love that one.
Oh my God, what if Oscar gets it?
I'm excited, I'll be excited for you.
I would love, big energy in general is very hard to get so any any of these
Would be such a treat. So thank you so much man. Yeah, that was really sweet. I know he was very excited about it
I didn't know that's where you got the rainbow ones. I didn't know that's where it came. I was like, oh my god
I'm so excited. Hey, make sure it's in frame. I want to make sure they see this your first reaction to it
Dad oh first reaction to it. I'm so excited. I'm dead. I'm dead. Oh, it's a purple one. This
is my favorite one because it's the Olivia Rodrigo color. It's a cotton candy. That's
so cute. The teeth look different. There is a colorful tooth on there. Yeah, they have
a little colorful tooth that matches the fur. Oh, okay. This is genuinely my favorite one
from the set though. You don't have that one? Oh, luck is good. No. Yeah like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it. I like it. I like it. of my life. It's gambling.
You have an addiction.
I just love them so much.
And I know the love booboo phobia is really starting to amp up, but I'm sorry.
You just cannot make me hate the booboo.
You can't, you can't make me hate them.
They're so cute.
They're sweet.
Even James Charles can't make you hate them.
Even James Charles.
I'm having like cognitive dissonance.
And then I'm like going to watch like Alicia and, and any, any way, get their little
packages, you know?
So I was like, palette cleanser.
But these really are like the bright light
of my life right now.
They give me something to look forward to.
Me and the Pop Mart, oh my God.
Me and the Pop Mart TikTok Live girlies and gays.
Like we're just having a great time.
So I love it.
It looks so cute.
Yeah, these are all Oscar gifts.
Oh my God, thank you so much.
I actually this time got another suitcase. We were at a casino. I was like, can someone go get me another suitcase? Cause it looks so cute. These are all Oscar gifts. Oh my god, thank you so much. I actually this time got another suitcase.
We were at a casino.
I was like, can someone go get me another suitcase?
Because there was so much.
And probably more.
We just are going through it now.
But there's probably so much more stuff for you.
You have like an entire set of Britney Spears.
Whoa.
Yeah, I haven't even gone through any of this because sometimes they take it from them at
the door.
All of them.
Yeah.
These nails, which are amazing.
Oh, these nails.
Oh yeah, you can show Oscar these. These nails, which are amazing.
Oh, these nails. Oh, yeah. She'll ask her these. These are pretty cool.
Kawaii claws. Yes.
Whoa. Can you see them?
Yeah. Do you see your face?
I think, yeah.
Your face is on the thumb.
Whoa.
She had one. The girl was wearing hers.
Then she got me a set too.
That's so cool. Oh, my God.
Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah. That's so cool. Oh my God.
It's perfect, yeah.
It's so cool to see all the gifts people bring.
Little Fishy.
Yeah, it's so cute.
I was gonna name you Shrek, Fishy.
Fishy, Fishy is such a crazy name.
Could you imagine?
Here little Fishy.
Well, baby's coming in like a few weeks.
So that is your next era. A boy mom. Yeah. Well, baby's coming in like a few weeks, so it's happening.
That is your next era.
Boy Mom.
Boy Mom is your next era is wild.
Oh my God, I'm scared.
I'm not even thinking about it.
I know it hasn't come into my mind yet that it's happening, but it's happening.
Now I can fully rest and ready for it to happen.
That's so exciting.
I hope he's like little Ted Nivison Jr.
Like, I don't know, just wants to see the clips and stuff you know that'd be so sweet
yeah just go around to the rainforest cafes and that would be weird but the rainforest cafe
are you back on the Ted Nivison kick oh what is that there was a whole suitcase of two secrets
oh my god did you know I had a brand trip to my show, which I was so confused. Did you not see it?
Yeah, I was so.
I saw it. Confused.
Yeah, they did a brand trip with influencers to the show.
They had a little box.
This feels like a fever dream.
This is the whole this whole first 14 minutes feels like.
I know it really I think it's like Lee and like also just every yeah
It's just like the same
Where are we like part with the era's tour that is so funny
Months this is like four months
They took it boosters the heiress. Yes, they get him a box. Yes in Florida
They had a box and I see everyone in these pink jumpsuits, one guy
in a gray jumpsuit.
And I'm like, but then when I point them out,
I'm like, who are you guys over here?
How did you get these boxes?
What is happening?
Oh, you didn't even know?
No.
And they're like, we're with Juicy Couture.
And I was like, what does that mean?
You represent the brand.
You are the brand.
And then there was a famous TikToker.
I believe his name was Bran Flakes. I think his name is Bran. But he was, I you are the brand. And then there was a famous TikToker, I believe his name was Bran Flakes,
I think his name is Brandon, but he was,
I had seen him before, he was so far away
so I couldn't, I had the worst eyesight,
but when I saw him and I said, what's your name,
he said Brandon, and everyone cheered for him,
so I was like, oh, so you must be a famous TikToker.
I guess they all were, I think you should,
by the way, I told everyone who came,
but it was so funny, so I guess they gave me a bag
of Juicy Couture stuff, because I was like,
do I get a tracksuit?
Am I invited on this brand trip?
Like it was, I didn't know fully.
I was kind of like, what is happening up there?
Yeah.
I was like, am I included in this?
Like what is happening?
But it was really nice.
I'm so, I'm so confused but so excited too.
I was like, wow, Juicy Couture taking them to Atlantic City to watch the air as a trish
tour.
I felt cool.
I felt very cool.
I was like, wow, I love that my brand trip is one of my shows.
That was so funny.
Yeah, it was cool.
Shout out Juicy Couture.
I don't know.
I probably should have gone up there.
I didn't know.
I didn't really know like the layout of it all.
Like I didn't know how that was supposed to work.
I would have said, hi.
I don't know.
I just was like, what did they give us?
Just track suits.
There's a huge bag full of clothing and all the stuff
they showed.
It was very great, I loved that so much.
It was amazing.
Also, happy Pride still, happy Pride.
Yes, Pride is still kicking, guys.
We did World Pride and I got to meet Paris Hilton
and Rita Ora.
Major.
Betty Who and Vincent the singer.
It was very fun, It was very good.
Yeah. So Pride is, Pride is still going. So. And the drone footage of the crowd was bigger than
Chaparrón in Brazil. Wait, you didn't see drone footage? Was it?
I want Jimmy to put in clips of Chaparrón in Brazil and then put it up. Oh, oh, oh.
I was like, did they have drugs?
Because look, here's the thing.
It was a huge crowd though.
It was big.
Well, no.
It wasn't like, okay, I think when J-Lo went on it was like 40,000 people.
When I went on it was like a few thousand people.
We were very early on in the set.
We were second to go, which I don't know how festivals work. I'm not sure I didn't know how this all works. So
Couple of weeks ago. We talked about Megan Traynor at a festival. I think oh, yes
I went to Tango or something. Yeah, we're kind of
People are so mean they're like I don't support this but they were like clowning here cuz like wow
No one showed up to her set you understand these fairgrounds are like so big right a lot of space
Yeah, so those could be a couple thousand people, which is a lot, which is what I play
when I do the theaters.
It could be a couple thousand people,
especially if you go early on in the day,
people don't come.
So I was, in my head, I started thinking about that.
I was like, oh my God, we're second to go.
They're like, when we got there, nobody was there.
I was like, oh my gosh, so it could be one of those sets
where you just go out and there's like
literally a line of people or whatever.
But there was a pretty good crowd of people.
And then I got nervous, like what if they're not here
to see me, because Rita Ora was right after me.
I was like, what if they're like,
we just want to see Rita,
we don't want to see this girl.
So I got really nervous about it.
But then they did chant my name,
Danielle Perez, one of my followers,
but also one of my friends,
he got it, of people going,
Trisha, Trisha.
I was so nervous.
I was out of breath, I disassociated.
I do not know what I said.
I was so, it was hot.
I was out of breath because the stage was so huge.
We only had 15 minutes.
I never did a festival before, I was so nervous
and then I said a bunch of things and I don't even know.
I remember afterwards my photographer was like,
you were saying like, like my body.
I was like, oh my god.
Did you see it?
Yeah, I did see that, I was like work, yes.
Literally didn't make sense.
Did it go?
You were like giving birth to the pope,
but this pope's gonna like gaze, you were giving.
Oh my god.
She sent me a clip of me talking, I sent it to Moses,
I'm like, can I post this, I don't wanna watch it,
but can you see if I said anything weird?
Because all I remember is I was there,
you have four minutes, but I didn't have a speech planned.
And I usually have my normal speeches on my airs
at Tresh Shore, which is more like inspiring, you know?
It's like to the queer community, like I love you,
you know, we'll never stop fighting for you.
And I was like, but this didn't seem like that crowd.
This seemed like we're on poppers
and on each other's shoulders crowd.
So I was like, what do I say?
So I just,
everything gay in my head came out like gooning and like, I know that's not gay, but I was just
trying to think of anything. And I was like, and then just like, God, I'm really just saying so
much stupid stuff right now. So I don't know what I said, but hopefully it was okay. The little clip
I posted was like, okay enough, but it really did feel... The opening was iconic. Yes.
The opening of the way the music was and then coming out and the whole...
The production.
The production and the animation and everything.
That was really nice.
They had really good food at Pride.
They had really good chicken fingers and fried mac and cheese, but it was very, very stressful.
But then I got to see Paris, I got to see everyone and it was really fun.
But anyways, Pride keeps going to all month, so happy Pride.
Happy Pride everybody.
Yeah okay just thought I'd say that. I don't know where we were going with that.
I think I found that clip when you interviewed Slater you were telling her about like how
performing against Pride is like something that you can only dream of.
Really?
Yeah.
Because I never did mainstream stuff I've always just done stuff online and social media which
anybody can do but I feel like when you do mainstream stuff like touring and you have
these albums and you're at Pride
and stuff like that, to me, that's like unattainable.
Another manifestation that you didn't even know about.
I know, I love when people find clips with ads.
Like, I love that so much.
I did have a really big manifestation.
This is my hottest topic of the day.
I am so excited.
Do you know?
I heard from Trish Crave via Twitter,
but I'm excited to hear from you.
Even though the horse was not.
Trish Crave knows everything, I love it.
I made you talk about it at some of my shows
because I was like, I didn't know.
I had one of my biggest manifestations.
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because I don't know.
I think this was the end all be all for manifestations.
Okay, can I just rip it down?
Oh, whoa.
Wait, wait.
Like, are you just gonna show the picture?
Oh, he's going straight.
So just, you can hold it and flip the paper to the back.
You know what I mean?
It's only attached to the top.
We'll just set this up.
I wanted a reveal.
Okay.
Ready? Here's the reveal.
Did you see it on the... Which one? Yeah, we see it on all the big screens.
On the Jumatron.
Whoa!
Wait, this is legit! Oh my god!
There is me!
It happened!
Oh, he looks so smiley there too!
Oh my gosh, I love it!
I look so smiley. I look
insane. I look like ay. I look insane.
I look like a beached whale right there.
Oh my gosh.
I didn't know, clearly I didn't know this was gonna happen.
Luckily I did have some hoop earrings on
because we were recording rehearsal footage.
I was just like, okay, so I had a little bit,
but I, yes, I met Gerard Way, everybody.
I don't know. I think it's a manifestation for real.
We've done 35 cities of this tour.
Every tour I dress as Gerard Way for Black Parade.
Every tour I say, I'm always pregnant, I'll never get to see him on tour.
Because yet again, they're doing another tour when I'm giving birth.
I've always given birth when they performed here in LA.
So oh my God, I love this sweater.
I haven't really fully got to look at it yet,
because I wanted to wait a week to post about it,
just because privacy and stuff like that.
I don't want to, you know, whatever.
So I was like, okay, I don't even know
where to start with this.
Oh my gosh, okay.
So, my tour manager was his tour manager
back in 2010.
Oh. Yeah, like really long time ago,
but I never knew that when I hired my tour manager.
He did my Trishmas Live, he did this, I love him.
But he saw the opening of Trishmas Live about Gerard Way
and he's like, oh, you like Gerard Way?
I used to tour with him in 2010,
I got on his solo one, I was like,
that's the coolest thing I ever heard.
I would always ask him questions about him.
He's like, he's so nice, whatever.
But again, that was so long ago.
And like, you know, I wasn't gonna be like,
oh, can you introduce me to Gerard Way?
Whatever.
So yeah, we met, this was last Tuesday.
And yeah, we met very casually.
As you can tell, I was not prepared to do it,
but we met very casually.
We were in the same proximity of each other.
And we were very, very close to each other.
And... It was not casual, it was professional.
You were one recording artist.
I don't know if I can say.
We were rehearsing for Pride.
We had new Pride dancers and everything.
We had to go back into the dance rehearsal studio.
We had to do sound check and everything like that.
All of a sudden, and they're not there anymore,
and we're not there anymore,
but all of a sudden, there's two spaces
connected to each other, and our music was blasting.
Our music goes down.
All of a sudden, I hear,
dee-nee-nee-nee-nee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee,
and I'm like, that sounds like My Chemical Romance.
It sounded like, I was like, is this a cover band?
Is this what?
They're doing a huge stadium tour this year,
so now they're moving to a sound stage,
literally a movie sound stage or whatever.
So they wouldn't be here because it's small,
it's whatever it seems like,
but it was their initial rehearsals.
And I'm listening and I'm trying to see if I can hear. I like I'm trying to see if I like hear voices I don't know I
anyways so then my tour manager who doesn't usually come to rehearsals he
just happened to be at come to this rehearsal because I think you had to get
like props or like something from our dancers like you don't travel
information or something so he came and I was like I think I hear MCR and he
actually went on tour,
somewhat of a tour with them in like 2002
with Taking Back Sunday.
So he kind of knew the band too.
He's like, I'll just go in and say hi.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
So he went in and he didn't come back for like 20 minutes.
And I was like, oh my God, I wonder what happened.
Like, I wonder what it is.
And so he went in and then he came back into our room
and all my dancers had just gone on break.
I was with my choreographer and the assistant choreographer
and they all, all my dancers went on break.
And then he's like, my tour manager's like,
Australian, I can't do his accent
but he's like just so happy and jolly.
He's just always like, yep, he's coming in to say hi.
I'm like, who's coming in to say hi?
And he's like, Gerard.
I was like, what?
Like I heard, I heard like talking out there
but I didn't know.
And I was like, what do you mean? And then he's like, he's gonna but I didn't know. And I was like, what do you mean?
And he's like, he's going to come say hi in here.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
So anyways, we're just like in this, like whatever in this room.
And like five minutes later, Gerard Way walks into our rehearsal space and was just so,
so nice and so like, I don't know how to explain it like it felt like okay, this sounds blasphemous
I'm so sorry, but I really felt like God was coming towards me
like that I was being you know that I was being chosen to come to heaven like that's what I felt like and I I
Talked about disassociating like oh my god cuz I came home to tell Moses and I was like, he's like, what did you?
I was like, I don't know
I got it because I came home to tell Moses and I was like, he's like, what did you have? I was like, I don't know
Have no idea like interrogate her to get some ideas of what the conversation was like to jog her memory You know, it really was like I felt like I was I had died and gone to heaven. I know that sounds like so extreme but
He just was so sweet and so nice. I don't even know how to explain it. And then, yeah, I probably talked so much.
I just remember I talked a lot,
and then I was like, I need to slow down.
I also didn't wanna take up too much of his time.
I did ask beforehand to my tour manager.
I was like, oh, do you think it's okay
to ask for a picture?
It was like that weird.
You guys know I would never ask for a picture from anyone.
He's like, no, no, I asked if you know,
you guys could have a picture or whatever.
And I was like, okay, perfect.
So it felt less awkward.
So I don't know, he came in.
Truly, I don't know what I said. I was just, I was like, okay, perfect. So it felt like less awkward. So I don't know, he came in. Truly, I don't know what I said.
I was just, I was babbling, probably just like,
I love you.
I said like, you saved my life, which is true,
but even though it was like 32 when I discovered him
in like 2001, like 2001, like he saved my life.
I was just like, I don't know.
I don't know how to explain it to people,
but he really did.
And all of a sudden this person, who is just a person,
but also just like, it felt like a God to me.
It just was like, they're standing in front of you.
Anyways, and just so sweet, so nice, and.
Because I immediately texted her, like, does he know?
Like, because that's what everyone wondered,
like, does he know?
Oh, right, right, right, right.
Does he know your videos, like.
I did ask him, so I did. Did I ask him or did he tell me I had I want to get this story
Right told me he told like his daughter like he told you he did say I
Don't even know how we got there something. I probably told him we had like a cover bar
I don't know what I did, but he's like oh my
Yeah, he must have he must have but that's so weird. Maybe I asked him if you saw it
I don't know I can't remember but he had seen the videos back in the day,
the sad boy videos.
He's like, yeah, my daughter actually told me
that you've dressed up like me and like recreated videos.
And I was like, oh my God.
And then I said something, I was just like,
I do remember that.
I was like, I'm so sorry.
Yeah, we just like knocked off all your videos.
I'm so sorry.
He's like, no, they're recreations.
They're wonderful.
Like he was so encouraging.
And I think my whole fear is him thinking
I was like a weirdo.
I was a weirdo, I'm sorry.
I was spending so much money recreating these videos
and dressing up like him.
He's probably like, what is happening?
But he was so nice and so sweet.
And then of course, me being parasocial,
like obviously I knew his daughter's name.
So I was like, oh my God, she, like I said the name, she knows who I am,
oh my god, just being so extra, whatever.
She's probably a teenager now, I mean, anyways.
So yeah, so he had seen him, he approves, so that was good.
And then, so we took a picture inside,
the lighting was horrendous, oh my god,
those rehearsal space lighting were horrendous.
So I was like, oh my god, the lighting's horrendous. So I was like, I was like, oh my god,
the lighting's so bad.
And I was like, I think someone said,
do you wanna go outside and take it?
And I was like, God, I don't wanna make him
travel outside with me.
But I was like, do you mind?
And he's like, sure, yeah, whatever you want.
It was so nice.
So he like walked, we walked out of the rehearsal space,
like down the hallway.
We were gonna do it in front, but I'm like, no,
you know, I don't want anyone, whatever.
And then we had to walk even further
to get to like, past wherever, to like this little wall.
And we took another picture and it just was bliss.
And then I think I told him like,
oh, he was telling me, oh God,
this is why I need to just shut up sometimes.
Cause he was telling me like tour,
like what's happening on this, like the set list,
like what songs he's performing. And he was about to give me like a secret. on this like the set list like what songs he's performing
And he's about to give me like a secret
He's like there's little spots of the song that we're gonna and then my dad cuts him off
I was like, I don't know how you sing it. I sing it every night for a minute
I was so stupid and I was like, what was he gonna say?
Cuz he's like there's little there's little story lines and I was like, oh my god
Why did I cut him off and then he's like, yeah, it's a hard song to sing
No, but he said something like, I was just like,
actually, you probably didn't say anything.
I was just talking, I'm like, your vocals must be,
they're amazing, that song is so hard to sing.
Like, how did you, I don't know.
One day maybe I could have a real conversation with him.
It didn't really- Well, hopefully here.
He needs to come here on the podcast.
Well, that's crazy.
I know Mo's like, did you ask him to be on the podcast?
I was like, what?
How can he, like, this is, the universe is telling you,
here, you're one and one.
He does like comic book podcasts
It's like intellectual. I think I told him that to you
I didn't know if you would like me because you're very intellectual and artsy and I just think
So, I don't know he was yeah, I should have congratulated him on so many things and I just didn't he's very like just humble
He's just like a person that just like walks around by himself and stuff like that. You just wanna think that, I don't know,
we once rehearsed next to Sabrina Carpenter
and there was like 5,000 people there,
you know what I mean?
And even Backstreet Boys was there.
Like I just feel like, there's just, you know,
and maybe there was, I guess I met him
in a different setting because he knew my tour manager,
so it was like different,
but he just was like this humble person.
We kinda look like each other, right?
We look like each other, right? We look like each other in there.
I love it. He just looks so cool too. He just looks so cool. I don't know how to explain it.
MCR fans are excited because they haven't seen a candid of Gerard in a long time.
He looks so cool. He looks so good. I just, I don't know, I was, I had to tell him I was pregnant
so he doesn't think I have a big belly.
I was like, well, I'm pregnant.
And he's probably like, okay.
Like, why, okay.
I don't know, I just was saying very random things.
So anyways, so thank you for being nice to me
and thank you for not thinking I was a complete weirdo.
I'm glad we met in the situation we did.
I think if I would have met him any other way,
it would have been like, I probably would have passed out.
I almost did pass out.
I did pass out.
I had a little disassociation.
I passed out while standing up.
It was crazy.
I just, I don't know what it was.
I got really tongue-tied.
I truly don't think I could actually interview him
or even talk to him, like have a conversation,
because that literally like no words were coming out.
Non-verbal.
It was non-verbal.
I even asked people after.
I'm like, I don't know what I said. It was really-verbal. I even asked people after, I'm like,
I don't know what I said.
It was really weird.
He kinda thought like, what is wrong with this person?
I don't know.
Has that ever happened to you?
When you meet Taylor Swift, do you get tongue tied
or are you just?
Oh my God, the first, not the,
I think the second time, the second time I met her
at Reputation, I literally cringed thinking about it
because I was so like, the most.
I was like, oh my God, I can't even look at you.
I'm like staring at the sun, like my wig is on fire. And I was like, yes. And she, she laughed like in the moment.
I just couldn't help it. Like I had the opposite of nonverbal. I just couldn't stop. I was
like going and I was the first one to meet her too. And I was like, she walked in and
then she said hi to everyone. And then like her, I don't know who it was, the tour manager
or something was like starting to meet and gre greet and everyone was kind of just waiting.
Like no one wanted to go first.
I sure as hell didn't want to go first.
Really?
They just said Oscar, come up.
And I was like, okay.
And then I just said everything.
And then my friend that went with me, I think she could feel the vibe because she was like
really giving her time to me.
But then my friend Mark came after her.
He was like, and like, welcome to New York,
really changed my life when I moved to New York.
And she went, oh cool.
And then they took the-
Ah, oh my gosh.
But I think she could feel his vibe was off,
cause it was a little off.
Wait, who was that?
My friend Mark went after.
Wait, why was the vibe off though?
We're not friends anymore, so I think she knew.
I think she sensed that it just wasn't gonna work out for us.
Wait, so wait, you weren't friends when you did the meet and greet?
No, we were friends then,
but then a year later we weren't friends.
So you thought she had a premonition
that you were gonna be friends with him?
I think she knew.
Yeah, I think she knew.
She had the intuition.
So she wasn't really giving much to him.
But to me she was really laughing at everything I said,
but it was in retrospect,
even like five minutes after I was like,
why did I say that?
I'm like, that's so embarrassing.
Why did I say my wig is incinerated or whatever?
I love that. So you were trying to go, yeah, you're trying to go full on like,
fabulous. I wasn't even trying. It just happened. It just came out.
The gay jumped out. I love that. I love when people are more
enthusiastic because then you're like, okay, they're really excited.
You know? Yeah. She was like, when I said my wig was incinerated, she said, I'm sorry, that hurt.
And I was like. Oh. So at least you remember what she said back. Yes. Yes. She was doing, when I said my wig was incinerated, she said, I'm sorry, did that hurt? And I was like.
Oh, so at least you remember what she said back.
Yes, yes.
She was doing an interaction.
Yeah, she was definitely, she was giving a little something
back.
I think she was entertained.
I had like the court jester privilege.
You know, I was just like a little,
like a wound up little clown.
And then I, I'm like, do, do, do, do,
let me make a fool out of myself.
That's how I used to be at bean green soup.
I used to be like really excited.
I was like, let me just talk really, really fast. Like, I love you so much. And I was like, that's annoying.
Let me not do that. Yeah. Now I think I'd be a little bit more. I mean, I say that, but then if
I ever met her, I'd probably do the same. Was that the last time you met her? The last time I met her,
I was a little bit more cool, I think. The last time I met her was 2019, yeah, for the album Lover.
And I told her about Reputation, how much I love Reputation
and how much I love the new album.
And I was like, Taylor, I would go to war for this album.
I love it.
She said, I'm like, I will always be a reputation truther,
but I love Lover.
She's like, thank you so much.
Like, I needed to hear that.
She was having a key then too, yeah.
So I was a little bit more calm.
I think that's like the right etiquette when being someone is saying like, what you're a fan of, right? Like, you needed to hear that. She was having a key in too. So I was a little bit more calm. I think that's like the right etiquette
when being someone is saying like,
what you're a fan of, right?
Like, you probably wanna know why.
You don't wanna be too cool either
because sometimes people come up to me
acting like they don't give a shit that I'm even there.
They're always just like.
To blob's a.
Yeah.
What the hell are you doing here?
Yeah, I'm like, hey, how you feeling?
Can I get a picture?
I was like, okay.
I do like when people know a little bit,
insight when they need help a little bit.
And I showed her my snake too and she was like helping about once you have a tattoo that
Give me that will get me every time someone has a tattoo. I was like, oh, yeah
You're a fan like let me let me like talk to you and stuff like that. I I guess yeah
Well, you've had how many meetings with her three three. Yeah
So maybe my third one will be
Come to a show, you know, I'm bringing the baby with me
What's my headphones on there because it'll be like a week or two after I was like, come to a show, I'm bringing the baby with me, put some headphones on there,
because it'll be like a week or two after,
I was like, let's go, we're going to the MCR show.
Yeah, maybe the third time, I don't know,
because they are just people, which is crazy,
but like you said, it's such a,
they're almost like not, like they are people,
that's what I had to keep telling myself,
I'm like, he's just a person,
he like, you know, goes home to his family, whatever.
But in the moment, they really do feel like God chose you
when you're meeting them.
You're like, I'm the chosen one.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
It was really weird.
Because he's also very hard to meet.
He doesn't do meet and greets.
He doesn't do press at all.
So he's a hard person to meet.
Anyways, I was shocked.
I was shocked he wanted a picture.
Because also, you have to understand too,
he probably wasn't expecting it.
Like he was just there for like this.
And the singer only goes in,
from what I've heard from my photographer,
she does a lot of band shake.
Usually the singer comes in for like an hour one time.
You know, like they're not there for the full day,
for the full whatever.
So just like the timing of it working out was crazy.
That makes sense, yeah.
Because like for Cat's Eye,
they're dancing, they have to be in there longer.
But the singer, it's like the production's around them.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yes, they already know the songs,
the band was rehearsing.
Yeah, he was saying that's like this big stage thing
that they're building out.
I mean, they're playing two nights at Dodger Stadium,
which is like 50,000 people per night,
and then I think they're doing all stadiums.
So yeah, I guess they're moving to like,
literally like a movie soundstage
to like build it out or something like that.
So that's why I waited to be just in case, you know,
I didn't want to whatever, cause it was just so surreal.
I've been to this place a thousand times
and I've never seen my chemical romance.
And I was just like, oh, even my tour manager is like,
that's not where, you know, they usually are at.
So I don't know.
It lined up.
It was, it was, it was my ultimate manifestation come true.
I couldn't hold it.
And I wanted to wait to like the podcast,
but then I had to tell people this because
let me just tell people cause I was doing black parade. And I was to wait to like the podcast, but then I had to tell people this because let me just tell people because
I was doing Black Parade and I was like,
and what's so weird, what's not too weird,
but kind of weird, we came home that night,
Moses had made me like chicken and rice,
like made one of my favorite meals,
like home cooked, it's really good.
We finished overcompensating and one of the second
to last episodes is Welcome to the Black Parade.
Yes, oh my God, I forgot about that.
That was, yeah, you never told me about it.
Yeah, I definitely forgot about that.
What's crazy is like, okay, I get it,
but like this show is like more girly pop,
like it's Charlie XCX and Britney,
so like the fact that the whole episode was like
called Welcome to the Black Parade
and it was about like the sister having like the thing,
but then it was the sister that sang, right?
Was it the sister who sang Black Parade?
Yes.
It literally was like my concert
where it's just like me and like a microphone
like with a karaoke track behind me,
be like, when I was a young boy.
She's like singing this song.
And then obviously then he gets his kiss with a guy
for the first time.
So I was like, oh my God, this is literally
a Trisha Payne's concert right now.
Like it's just so cool.
It's like gay with like Black Parade.
It was just like amazing.
It was so wonderful.
And then Benny Jama commented, he's like,
he said, LOL, laughed out loud or something like that.
Cause I was like, what do you mean you're doing
Black Parade in a gay show?
That's me, that's what.
It was so, it didn't, anyways, it felt the light.
It was that night too, we watched it.
And we had no idea.
I was suddenly starting Black Parade, I was like,
what the hell?
And then they have a really hot make out session
between Benny and Lucas Gage, which I'm like, loved it so much.
It was like his first kiss in a bathroom stall,
and then Black Praise.
Actually, and they go back and forth
between Gerard's voice and the girl's voice
so you could hear Gerard singing,
and I was like, that's so team, that's so cool.
It was beautiful.
I was on a high, I was on a high,
and truly, literally anyone, honestly,
okay, my least favorite place people ask for a picture
is in the bathroom, right?
When I'm going to the bathroom at the airport or something. Someone literally like open
the door. Kind of my fault because you know there's like green lights and red lights on top of the
stalls. I guess mine wasn't locked all the way so there was a green light and so I came in and I
was like literally wiping and I'm like hunched over wiping. Yeah, it was crazy. And they asked
for a photo? Yes. Oh, I was joking. No, well not in that moment. I'm so sorry. I'm like it's okay.
It's okay. And they're like, so they waited and then they're like Trisha they like waited outside my stall
I have a photo like well, you just saw me
With my big belly trying to wipe this my vagina ass like I guess
You know, I was like hell yeah, actually cuz I was after this I was like
Should've done it while I was wiping honestly, I was like, okay
Yeah, it was at least you waited till after but have done it while I was wiping, honestly. I was like, okay, yeah, it was, at least you waited until after, but it was,
yeah, it was crazy.
That was crazy.
Because like I said, I've had someone slide their phone
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And I was like, okay, that's weird.
And I usually get annoyed by that.
But after this, I was like, whatever.
Let me just take pictures.
Yeah, let me take a picture while I'm peeing, I don't care.
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Yeah, that was my manifestation completed.
I really don't have anything else to manifest,
so I'm gonna try something new.
Yeah, you really gotta start from scratch,
because you did a lot this year year and it's only June.
Yes, I should, you're right.
I gotta use my powers.
I think maybe, I think we need peace in the world.
I wanna feed the hungry kids and yeah, peace in LA.
And the secret la boo boo's.
Oh, I do, yeah, I really was trying to manifest
a rainbow tea la boo boo.
Jimmy has one though, you said.
Yeah.
Did he unbox it?
Yeah, and it was the first one he opened,
and the first of this set,
and the first one he opened in general
was also the rare one.
So I don't want to hear anyone crying for Jimmy.
He got his LaBooBoo skull in the parking lot, okay?
Cause Jimmy's also on TikTok and he,
I don't know what his internet is super fast or what,
but he gets everything from the TikTok shop.
And I'm always like, are you f**king me Jimmy?
Oh my God. Yeah, so you know what? He's doing, he's okay. He's perfectly and I'm always like are you Jimmy Jimmy if you got yeah
So you know what he's doing. He's okay. He's perfectly fine. So don't cry for Jimmy
We'll do another plea for pop mark if you want to send us a box
We'll do it on me. We'll do it here. We'll do on the major. We'll do it somewhere
We'll just give us those little boo-boos. I am kind of desperate for a rainbow one now
I'm just like it's addicting like you just I wanted to open your guys's like during the thing
I want to see what's inside. I almost didn't Moses. I'm just like, it's addicting. Like you just, I wanted to open your guys's like during the thing. I was like, I want to open that one. I want to see what's inside.
I almost did Moses. I mean, he won't care.
But then I'm like, no, let me, let me make it for the podcast.
It was literally last night.
So I was like, I can't wait 12 hours, but I was,
I wanted to see what was inside. So.
See, I'm bad too. Cause I, I'm now that I'm like,
kind of caught up with the collection.
So now I like, I still buy them, but for like other people,
like my friends who can't buy them or like don't know how
Oh, that's so nice. Well, why is but
Every time I buy like set I do open the box on the bottom to make to see if it's a secret inside
And if it's not I just tape it back up and I'm accused
I still do the work of like, you know being on tik- or, you know, being on the Popmart app within seconds.
I love the ambition.
So I'm still doing the hard work.
That's actually so funny.
That's smart.
That's why I know I used to gift lottery tickets to people
because I love lottery tickets.
I used to give like mega millions of,
what if they win the billion dollars?
I was like, I'm not gonna mean, no.
I'm like, let me just keep these for myself now.
I never buy people a lot of tickets
because I'm like, I do think I'm lucky. I think one of mine will win and my luck will be, it's like giving it away to someone that I don't even know. I'm like, let me just keep these for myself now. I never buy people lotto tickets because I do think I'm lucky.
I think one of mine will win and my luck will be,
it's like giving away to someone that I don't even know.
Oh look, this one's luck.
Oh, I should go buy a lotto ticket today.
Yeah.
Watch me win.
Because of this Labubu.
I would love, I would love.
Like that's why even when you got the rainbow one,
I was like, damn, I'm gonna be a little mad.
Because I was like, no, you I'd be happy for.
Anyone close to me who wins a lottery,
I would be happy for, but.
Also, he would appreciate it more than any of us.
That's true. It would be cherished.
You are like the Labooboo lover. I did kind of just jump onto it because I think it's cute.
No, you weren't kind of the first one. You're the one. Yeah,
because I learned about them because of you and Remy Ashton.
Oh, you're right. I forgot about that.
So you were the original. And yeah, you were before even Jimmy. So it was you,
then Jimmy, then Jules Sparkles,
the path to my influence.
Oh my God, okay.
Good to know.
I forget.
I forget so many things,
but I'm glad that I was the original Lou Boo Boo Lumber.
Yeah, I opened my first one with you on Patreon,
I think in January.
Oh, did we get one from Trishmas Live?
Yes.
Oh my God.
Okay, we've been on the Lou Boo Boo train.
Yeah, and now I was trying to resist,
but I'm just full blown as we know now, but.
Yeah, you can have like 20, how many do you have?
100.
No, I have, there's six, 12,
then I have a couple extra, maybe like eight,
maybe like 20 now.
Okay, are you sure?
I feel like you have more. No, cause I have, I think like about 20. Okay, are you sure? I feel like you have more.
No, cuz I have I think like about 20. Okay, that's not bad.
Yeah, cuz I have the-
You act like you were like in a parking lot every week getting like hundreds of la boo boo's.
No, well I I was in I did two parking lot deals before I knew how to get them from Pop Mart like proper.
I was doing the resale and then once I learned shout out, Jimmy did teach me his ways about getting them at least
so I've been able to get them myself after that.
Thankfully.
He only shared it with you or did he share it
with his audience?
No, he shares it with his audience too.
He gives him tips, yeah.
But I had the one-on-one mentorship from Jimmy though.
The one-on-one Labooboo mentorship.
Yeah, so shout out Jimmy for that.
Because ever since then, now I help him.
I got one for him that he couldn't get.
Okay.
Sharing is caring.
It's good karma.
Yeah, I was gonna say he,
he tried, he tried to get me one that I couldn't get.
So, you know.
Which one?
It takes a village.
It does take a village.
Did you ever get the Coca-Cola one?
Yes, we both have the Coca-Colas.
He tried to get me the, they have like a giant one,
a giant brown one.
I thought it was cute, or they had a scary,
like the bombadil snowman. You know what I mean? They're still a giant one, a giant brown one. I thought it was cute or they're kinda scary, like an abominable snowman.
You know what I mean?
They're still cute to me,
but there is something very sweet about the little one.
They're big, it's kind of like a toddler.
Probably Malibu size, to be honest.
Really?
She might like it.
Pop Mark did send us that big astronaut,
so it might be the same size.
I think so.
That one, she loves that one.
Pop Mark, I would love another one.
I did appreciate it, but not as much as I would now, you know
Yeah, I was like now we're like hyper fix it now. I love the little cry babies
Do we ever open all those cry babies over there? No, I'm waiting for you to okay
I'm gonna miss go over there. We do our patreon over there. I always see like 10 cry babies
I'm like all those cry babies out right now now that we have time now that we're back we have time but
we don't really
Actually, but here we are.
All right, well this is a little boo boo.
No, what is this one?
Oh, this is a crybaby.
This came too from.
Yeah, oh, the pride, the pride collection.
You see this one?
Yeah, this is cute.
Yeah, I see it on the TikTok shop.
I think Jimmy has that, I think, actually.
I love it with the little teardrops and stuff.
Again, a shout out to Pupmar for, you know,
sticking to their beliefs and having pride collections
in a time where a lot of companies aren't.
So, yes.
Oh, it is a sad month for that.
Yeah, Jimmy made the pride.
The pot mark?
Yes.
I saw that.
He did look slay.
He should have been on that float, really.
He really should have been on the floor with many MUA.
You know what?
Was I on many?
Oh, you didn't say that.
Oh my gosh.
I think you have to pay to get floats.
I was thinking about getting a dress shirt,
so maybe next year. Oh, I wonder how much they are. It. I think you have to pay to get floats. I was thinking about getting a dress church maybe next year.
Oh, I wonder how much they are. It's also Jimmy said it's a very short for the West Hollywood Pride Parade. It was a very short distance. I wonder how much it is because it doesn't seem that long.
I know is it like five thousand or a hundred thousand? Yeah, I guess it probably goes to a good cause I would assume right?
Well, you'd hope. I would hope. Probably. Yeah.
Otherwise, that's who runs Brian? I don't know.
I don't know.
The city?
The city.
It might be the city.
Oh.
Well hopefully they put it back into the community.
Yeah.
Now across from the Abbey they have bright lights
in that park.
Do you remember?
Have you been to the Abbey?
Not in a long time.
You remember that park was like always really dimly lit
and like dubious things would happen in that park?
Oh, like cruising?
Is that where you... Yeah, you just flop it out
and people just do whatever.
That's cruising?
Is that cruising?
Yeah.
Okay, I love that you know that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They do that at a mall.
I won't say which mall,
because someone told me at a mall.
You do it underneath the bathroom stall,
you just put it underneath there and...
And go for it.
Yeah. Work. Yeah. You just put it underneath there and and go for it yeah work
yeah you just put it how do you put it on the floor you put underneath the stall
people love to do it and people you wouldn't expect you're like oh okay i just there's nothing like that that happens in the women's bathroom so i don't i don't know about this oh yeah but they
used to anyways they used to go over at the Abbey Park,
at the park across from the Abbey, but now they put like these bright lights in the park.
So I guess you can't do that.
Oh, I'm sure people are still doing that with the bright daylight.
Probably. Maybe it's more to help them film.
Maybe because people do show me their photos and videos.
I was like, that is crazy.
Like people just I get it doing it, but filming it is.
Teach their own, honestly. How do you know about cruising?
uh I think we talked to Ted Nivison about cruising. You didn't know you don't
know about it? No I knew about it. You cruised?
um I don't think so. I don't even think in my
s***. I think the closest is I hooked up with someone
in a car in an alley behind my house or my parents' house.
I think that was the most... Because you couldn't go inside your parents' house? Yeah. I've done that too.
Yeah, I was late at night. I think one time I had my mom drop me off at like the Ralphs on Sunset
and I was like in someone's car. I mean that's a very common thing. I guess so, yeah, but it was
not the most common. It was a small car. I mean I was teeny at the time so that was okay, but it was
still a lot of maneuvering. Yeah, in that case size is relevant because it is hard to get at things.
I would do that too.
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Someone just like get in my car and,
ew, no, like let's go somewhere.
Like not just like in the alley.
I'm really trying to think.
I don't think I,
I think someone attempted at a Macy's bathroom once,
like an older fellow, but it was really kind of scary.
It was like a little intimidating.
Macy's, that's what I heard.
At a Macy's bathroom. Oh really?
Okay, yes.
Is it? No, I guess maybe it's a common Macy's, that's what I heard. Oh really? At Macy's bathroom. Okay, yes.
Is it?
No, I guess maybe it's a common mace.
I don't know.
At Macy's it's crazy.
That's why I was like, what?
I just went to use the bathroom at the Europe, but then he came out of the stall and tried
to talk me into coming into the stall.
Oh, well these people have some face to face.
These people don't see their face.
I'm like, you have no idea.
It could be James Harald, you know what I mean?
You don't know.
You don't know their face. I'm like you have no idea. It could be James Charles, you know
You don't know you don't know who it is
So that for entertainment purposes, I don't know if James Charles does that
Yeah, have you cruised over there
Babe what I feel't know what cruising is. Babe. What? I feel like you know. Cruise? Says someone who...
What is that?
I've never heard of it.
Seriously.
What's cruising?
Well...
Is it like...
You've never cruised.
Is it like a drive-through?
Have you ever done anything in a Macy's bathroom?
No.
Okay.
I cannot even stand being in the bathroom to just pee for a minute.
It stinks so much over there. Nope. I would not do more than that. Stinks so being in the bathroom to just pee for a minute. It stinks so much over there.
I would not do more than that.
Stinks so much in the bathroom?
Yes.
Have you been to a men's bathroom?
Yes, I also cruise in there sometimes.
Can girls go in there or no?
The men's bathroom?
Yeah, to cruise.
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying too.
On the opposite side, right?
You're the person putting your thing underneath there.
How do you know it's not me underneath there?
You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I'm not doing something over there. How do you know it's not me underneath there? You know what I mean?
Like, how do you know I'm not doing something over there?
Like, you know, they're probably like, what the hell?
I would always think, like,
what if someone just bit your off?
That too.
I literally think, I would think about that.
I'm just an anxious person and I don't like breaking rules.
So I would be like, I think too scared, but I would,
cause what if I was just crazy one day and I was like yeah
let me go in there and I'll bite whoever's
Yes! It happened! Remember that bath salt era?
Everybody was doing that like remember they're like eating each other's faces
Oh you're right!
I was so scared of people on bath salts like I was just like oh my god like
what do you mean people are just like eating you like that's so crazy to me so
hopefully that won't come back but I see a shirt that says gay in there
underneath the Oscar pile I see a little shirt that says gay in there, underneath the Oscar pile.
I see a little thing that says gay, I love it so much.
Sorry, I'm just like distracted.
I can't wait to see what all those are.
I don't think I have this shirt.
The first one, the Oscar one.
Oh!
Maybe he was saving them, but I do want to see what it is.
Oh, you want to? Okay.
Oh, there's one for Jimmy!
From Greenbee.
Yeah, I think we all got the same shirt.
Oh, did you open yours?
Well, you could just open yours, I guess, if it's all the same.
Here, that's fine. Oh, so cute! Oh my God, we're all a little gay.
Oh, is that embroidered? Yes, that's really cute.
Yes, merch. I love it. That's so cute.
Oh, I love that. Oh, Jimmy's going to wear the hell out of this.
Yeah, I love it. With this little booty short.
Jimmy's been getting hit on a lot lately, too. He told me.
Wait, really? Yeah, I guess I can save that story.
I'll just tell him, spill his tea, I guess, but he keeps getting hit on a lot lately too. He told me. We really? Yeah, I guess I can save that story. I'll just tell, spill his tea, I guess.
But he keeps getting hit on by older men and women,
like senior citizens.
Like senior citizen, like 60s or like 80s.
I think 60s, I believe.
Okay, that makes sense.
Cause everyone loves Jimmy.
My mom loves Jimmy.
Like that is very like that.
Cause he gives off like that energy.
You know what I mean?
Like middle-aged woman energy
in the best way. Like he is so fierce and like hot and like obviously he's young and good looking.
But he, I think he said it when he was here, he loves like older lady things, I think,
unless I'm just getting it out of my head. But he does give me like, I'm just keying with like,
you know, a housewife, a desks and housewives.
He said an older gentleman that worked at the gas station hit on him and then an older woman at the Trader Joe's
was so smitten that she paid for his eggs.
I was like, okay sugar mama.
Oh my, I would pay for his eggs.
I mean his legs and his booty don't fit in those shorts.
You know what I mean?
Every time I see him I laugh.
He said he had his booty shorts on, the boo boo on his hip.
Oh, that woman was probably like, what can I get you?
Hot and bottled.
He just got eggs at Trader Joe's, that's all he got.
I guess so, that's what he's saying.
Going in for one thing.
Not leaving with any snackies, that's crazy.
Okay, I love that, I can see it.
Jimmy is, he's very, he is very charming,
obviously on screen, but like off screen, he has a,
he does have a charisma to him.
Yeah, he has a riz.
Do people still use riz? Riz.
Yeah.
That's a better word, yes.
We love you, Jimmy.
Miss you.
Miss you too.
I feel like I miss so many people.
I feel like when you're gone,
you're like away from everything in the world
and like what's happening in life.
Moses too, I miss you too.
I haven't seen you.
I literally-
I'm saying that's why I made this set
is like to celebrate your superstar.
Superstar.
I was so excited.
I know, I haven't seen you. I literally rushed into shower. excited, I know, I haven't seen you.
I literally rushed into shower.
I just, yeah, I haven't seen anyone.
I think it's gone the longest this time, like six days.
It was a really long time.
Yeah, it was long.
We're back though.
We're back, okay.
You look so cute.
Have you ever seen the movie In the Heights?
You've never seen In the Heights?
No.
With Lemette, well Miranda, oh my God. You're giving In the Heights and I love it so much. They wear the Heights? No. With Lemma and Well Miranda?
Oh my god.
You're giving In the Heights and I love it so much.
They wear the shirts like that.
Ooh, okay, before, I know we have actual hot topics.
This is like, maybe it's a hot topic for theater people.
Did you watch Tony's last night?
No, but I saw clips.
You didn't do any TikToks?
No, I was off.
I'm off Sunday, so I got to obscene, yes.
So, Hamilton reunited 10 years since Hamilton came out
and they all reunited and they all got their little like
solos, like all the main, the original cast came back
and it was, oh my God, I was crying.
I was definitely crying.
I was like having an emotional moment about it.
Everyone came back except for Anthony Ramos,
who is, who was like the breakout star of Hamilton.
Like he was a pretty big star in Hamilton.
He went on to do In the Heights.
He was like doing a scene career.
Liza Koshy was in his music video,
engaged to Jasmine Sefus-Jones,
who played Mariah Reynolds in the original production.
He was notably not there,
and they did not give him a solo,
which was very interesting.
Allegedly, I don't know if it's alleged,
maybe it's confirmed, I don't know.
He cheated on the girl.
So they were like these two young stars of Hamilton
and everyone loved them and they got engaged
and then the engagement broke off
because allegedly he was at a strip club cheating on her.
But he wasn't in the thing and he's like a star.
He's like one of the main four guys.
He's like the star of the show.
Everyone else got their solos and not him.
Isn't that crazy?
Divvy Diggs, he was doing, and he's like huge.
He's like a big star now.
Everyone came back but he wasn't there and I was like, that's a lot., he was doing, and he's like huge, he's like a big star now. Everyone came back, but he wasn't there,
and I was like, that's a lot.
And he was a star in The Heights,
which is like Lin-Manuel's other big movie musical.
So I was like, that's very interesting that he wasn't.
You think it's cause of the cheating?
You think?
Maybe, maybe he's just shamed from the community.
That's crazy.
That was T, I thought that was T,
cause I was just like, wait, why is he not there?
People break up.
Did you tell me a show, like Gossip Girl or something,
and they dated and broke up and had to continue filming?
Yeah.
Penn, Badgley, and Blake Lively dated,
and Sebastian Stan and Leighton Meester dated on Gossip Girl.
Sebastian Stan was on Gossip Girl?
Yeah.
He was a prince or something.
I think he was a prince.
I don't know.
He was in there. I don't know. He was in there.
He's everywhere. Good for him. Okay. That's what I'm saying.
Or like I think it was like Demi Lovato and like Joe Jonas.
Yeah. Broke up and had to like perform at like Good Morning America or something. So I was like, okay
it's been a long time since that all happened. Like I'm sure he would have come back. Everyone came back for it, but
If you guys know the tea, let me know. That was my tea. I was like, damn. You would have been boozed on the ground too.
You were almost there at the Tony's.
I was invited to the Tony's.
I was, I know.
That's one I really wish I would have been to.
Especially because Cynthia Rieva went around
asking everyone to sing.
And I was like, oh. Oh my God.
Did you see it?
No.
Oh my gosh, she went around.
Like the chorus was singing a song.
So she asked Kristin Chenoweth, okay, she sang.
Then she asked Aaron, I don't know how he says last time,
Tavi, I think from Mulan Rouge, she sang,
but then she went to Adam Lambert,
and Adam Lambert, he did like a solo where it was like,
ah, ah, ah, he was doing it so good,
and I was like, oh man, I wish I was there,
I would have sang, I would have had my little heart out.
I love the Donys.
I do think Gypsy was robbed,
I think Audra McDonald should have won.
Joy Woods, who was in my Trish Made Us A Big Broadway Dream
on her night off from Gypsy, she was nominated.
She didn't win.
I feel like Gypsy got robbed in a lot of categories,
but congratulations to all the people who did win.
Jonathan, oh no, Darren Criss,
Darren Criss won, not Jonathan Groff.
All the Glee people have been winning.
The past four years there have been a Glee.
Wow. Yes.
It was Darren Criss won this year, Jonathan Groff won last year, and Alex Newall, who plays unique a Glee. Wow. Yes. It was Darren Criss won this year,
Jonathan Groff won last year, and Alex Newall,
who plays unique Glee, had won a few years prior.
So I was excited.
I'm really sad that you don't love musicals.
I really wish you would get into those, but it's OK.
Tony Awards happened and came and went.
Maybe next year you'll be there.
I would love to.
When?
You know who was just at the same theater
of your Broadway show though?
Was at the Beacon Theater, right?
Well, that wasn't my Broadway show,
but I did perform there.
I was in the Beacon.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
St. James theater, was it?
Yeah, at the Beacon.
At the Beacon Theater was Miley Cyrus.
And I was like, oh wow, Trisha was playing there.
What, she performed there?
No, she had the premiere of her new film.
The Tribeca. Yeah, the Tribeca festival.
Oh, I thought Tribeca was in Canada.
No. No, it's in New York.
There is a, there's another film festival in Canada though.
Okay, this is New York. The Toronto film festival?
Maybe. I don't know.
Okay. I don't know why.
All right, Tribeca makes sense.
Oh, because it's called TIFF, so you probably confused it with T. Okay, I love't know. Okay. I don't know why. All right, try it back, it makes sense. Oh, because it's called Tiff.
So you probably, you're probably confusing the T's.
Okay, I love. Yes.
Thank you for trying to make me sound smart.
Thank you.
That's what I was thinking, yes.
But yeah, Miley, she did a little premiere
for her new film and then she did like a music,
she did a Q and A after with the director,
co-directors and co-writers,
but there were fans in the audience that were heckling her.
And it made me so sad.
I guess some people bought tickets thinking
that it was an actual concert,
not understanding at the Tribeca Film Festival
that it was a film premiere.
Oh, you're saying you should have known.
You should have known, yeah.
And then-
$800 is a lot.
Well, they, so a reported,
what the fans are saying is that they paid $800 tickets
resale from like StubHub,
so they didn't like look at the fine print
or see the event information
to know that it wasn't a concert,
that it was just a film premiere and just a Q&A.
But that's on the consumer, it's not like, yeah.
Yeah, not on Miley.
Yeah. I don't love a heckler like that, especially something like worse people are talking,'s not like yeah, not on my Lee. Yeah
I don't I don't love a heckler like that. Especially something like worse people are talking It's like okay. I know because it's also like obviously quiet like if it's
And then I feel so bad for my like because then she did start breaking into song
She did start singing the climb. I think because she did feel bad
But that makes me so sad for her
Also, why is the climber go to song because've seen this is like the second time she performed that.
I love it.
By the way, I performed it at my show,
because I was like, oh, I love it.
It's like the Justin Bieber one I kept singing.
Now I keep singing this song.
I do love the Climb.
I love it too.
But why is that her go-to?
Because she has a new album out, right?
What is it called?
Beautiful, Beautifully Song?
Originally Beautiful?
There's a new album.
There's something.
Wait, hold on.
Now it's going to kill me.
I think it's.
Beautiful.
Beautiful sounds.
Something Beautiful.
OK, I was right.
Yeah.
So she has an album something beautiful
I think the climb is just a staple in her discography
Good like a coup stick. It's a good crowd pleaser. Everyone knows the climb everyone lives with lives for the climb
I see so it got them excited. Yeah, you tell she was being annoyed
She could tell she was like trying to ignore it cuz I'm someone was talking right?
So yeah, it was a little the QA. So it's like that's the worst. Yeah, especially like
the Q&A so it's like that's the worst yeah especially like she is really sweet to her fans in general too like yeah she always stops for them outside like whenever that she's doing
signings or doing a press or something she always stops outside she gives everyone she had like
five events in new york little meet and greets and stuff adam mackintyre met her in new york
is he living there how is he there he was doing shows New York. Wait, he's still on tour. Oh my God.
He's doing it longer than mine.
Geez. I wanna see that.
Get streaming tickets to that show.
That's crazy. He's been on tour forever.
Damn.
Yeah, cause when I did his podcast,
he announced the tour and that was so long ago.
January?
That was last year, I feel like.
What? Oh my God.
Has he been touring for a full year. He's the heiress tour
Yeah, I need to see what he's doing in there
But yeah
She's been doing all these little like events in New York and all the meet and greets there
She's been doing a lot of stuff with the fans like spending time with them
So the fact that they freaking turn on her and we're haggling her is crazy. I feel for her
I know especially cuz like I've done that I bought tickets to it was Michael Jackson I remember in 2002 in London and we flew
all the way to London thinking he was gonna perform but we ended up just buying tickets to
him protesting Tommy Matola. Oh yeah it was like him on top of a bus we probably got scammed first
of all like who was like this legendary moment though it was he was on the bus and he's like
Tommy Matola's devil and I'm like 12 so I'm like I don't know
Was I was like scared it was crazy I was like
But anyways, we ended up spending like $1,100 to just see him like protesting this and like we thought we were gonna sing
But you know what the other day it's like we got to be in his presence
We did follow him to like all the train station stuff with you know
I guess you had to like see them so I feel like that's worth it
And if you spent like said $800, you know, do your background to us, I was like, yeah, I guess I didn't do my due diligence.
I was 12.
I was like, my dad, I was like, can you buy this for me?
He's like, sure.
And then I just didn't realize it was like a protest.
We were buying it.
But also like, if you bought the tickets, you sit there,
you're like, okay, oh, I'm at the Trebekah film festival.
I'm sitting down and watching a movie.
At what point do you accept your fate?
Exactly.
Like, okay, this is what you did.
You did it to yourself.
And then instead of going and leaving a comment somewhere, you actually shout it
out. She's like, I thought you're going to sing. I'm like, yeah, obviously she's
not going to sing. There's no band. There's no microphone. Like nothing is
happening. Just shut up. What do they think will happen? She'll be like, okay,
the band come out. We're gonna like change the whole thing. She's still a little hot-compelled, sounds good though. I can almost see it.
That dream I'm dreaming but.
I don't know the song.
You're in task, you have to do a line.
Do it, do it.
Yeah.
Okay, ready?
I can almost see it.
That dream I'm dreaming but.
You weren't there.
Okay.
Oh yes.
You'll never reach it. But you weren't there
Every step I'm taking
I'm going backwards
Lost with no direction. My faith is shaking
losing direction
but I I got to trying, just keep pushing on Cause there's always gonna be another mountain
I'm always gonna wanna make it move
Always gonna be an uphill battle
Sometimes I'm gonna have to lose
Ain't about how fast I get there ain't
about what's waiting on the other side
it's a climb
I love that song. Wow, that was good. Are we gonna eat that? Yeah. Next tour. We'll cover it, yeah. I love that, the Hannah Montana movie too.
There was-
I don't know, I've seen it.
I saw it in theaters and one,
someone I went to high school with,
their dad directed it and then they were gatekeeping.
And I was a Miley Stan in high school,
like a biggest, like Miley was all over my locker.
I was known as the Miley Stan in high school.
Well, you were a lot of Stan's in high school.
No, it was very, I know exactly-
This is before Taylor?
I know my trajectory exactly.
So middle school was Ashley Simpson and then Ali and AJ.
And then 2006, Miley started.
And then Taylor, I also got end of 2006, almost 2007.
And then I had the two of them.
Those were my number one and number
two were Miley and Taylor and then that's pretty much it. I think I stand a little then Selena a
little Demi Lovato in there but in high school it was pretty much just Taylor Taylor and Miley.
Wow I didn't know that about you. Yeah I was in Miley's stand and yeah someone I went to high
school with their dad directed the Hannah Montana movie
and would kind of brag to me
and then one of the other guys
was like really good friends with her.
He's gay but was pretending that he was dating her.
He didn't come out until college.
Oh okay, he was straight and I was like,
what do you mean he pretended?
Did he have pictures with her?
Yeah, like they would hang out.
Because a dad was in the movie.
And so he wouldn't invite you or what?
No, he would be like,
oh maybe I'll invite you to hang out with, he would be like, oh, maybe I'll
invite you to hang out with Miley.
And he never did.
That's so mean.
Kids are so mean.
Because you know what I mean?
I don't know.
Did you feel some type of way?
Or were you hopeful?
Oh, I was hopeful.
Even I went to her concert.
When was this?
It was the Can't Be Tamed tour, I want to say.
And that's when he was really close with her.
And he was like, yeah, well, let me know when you're there maybe I'll have you come
backstage. And he didn't. No I was I was ghosted. Did you go? Yes I was at the because I had
tickets and he was like maybe I can get you backstage. Do you think he was being
mean or he just kind of. Yes. He was definitely mean. I hate that. Like oh my god because now I'm thinking about having a baby boy and if you're my baby boy and
someone's mean to you like that,
like come and maybe get you excited.
You're like so excited.
I might meet her.
And then like was just being mean about it.
Wasn't even try, but I'm so sorry.
Or like he let me do a video for you or something.
Like I would be so pissed at that boy.
Oh, he was loving that he had the power over me for sure.
Where is he at now?
He was a little popular on TikTok,
but I don't know if he still is,
because he got abs,
and he went the traditional gay gym route,
and got abs and stuff.
Maybe it was his way of hating on you,
like trying to...
No, because he was having a lot of hookups,
and none of which were me.
So...
But maybe he was like, playing hard to get,
like flirty. A chubby chaser. Yeah, you never know as as also you know
I'll be well as a chubby they they like the chubbies, but they they're like angry that they can't like you because society. Yeah
Not I know squarely not him because he
Like even unfollowed me after high school, but then he followed me back
when I was, it all comes back to the Rhodes Bros. When I was friends with the Rhodes Bros, Aaron Rhodes,
he followed me again because he wanted to get with one of the Rhodes Bros. And did he look like a
Rhodes Bro? He's white with abs, so kind of I guess, but not really. Yeah, yeah. And then
after, then he like unfollowed me after that.
And then after the podcast, he like DM me and he followed me.
And then DM me, he's like, oh, hey, like I see all over my TikTok.
Why aren't you following me back?
And I never even opened it, to be honest.
I'm like, I'm not following this again.
Now's your chance.
Maybe you could come on the podcast sometime.
Diabolic talk.
Yeah, just keep ghosting.
Maybe you can come on and show your abs.
Yeah, be like, how about this date, but never give him the address you can come on and show your abs.
Yeah, be like, how about this date but never give them the address or time?
Just tell them Universal Studios, maybe it will.
Be like, come find it.
We're in our nice era, but I do love that.
Because I don't like that bullsh-t.
You think he's still friends with Miley? Did you take pictures with her?
No, it was weird.
My high school was like,
just weird because the Sprouse twins
went to our high school for like a year.
Like they were doing school,
like on set of Sweet Life or whatever,
but then they would come in like once a month,
like to our school.
So he was like friends with the Sprouse twins
and Miley and Selena.
Oh, oh, he was in.
Yeah, I think from the Sprouse,
he was friends with the Sprouse twins first and I think from the Sprouse twins, Miley and then Selena. Oh, oh, he was in. Yeah, I think from the Sprouse, he was friends with the Sprouse twins first and I think from the Sprouse twins, um, Miley and then Selena and they would like hang out
like on his MySpace. It was like him and Miley and Selena. You were so like. And that was my
dream because I was a stan. And you're so close to it. Like we were so far removed from LA so like
none of that seemed real but because you were here you're're like, you could have been there. Literally one degree, yeah. Damn. Did you like growing up in LA?
Honestly, I didn't really feel like LA,
like it still felt far,
cause I was like in the valley,
or kind of like far from like Hollywood and stuff.
So it was crazy, cause you were so close, but yeah.
Once I drove, I realized, oh, it's not that far.
But I remember growing up, it seemed very far
from like where the premieres were,
and you know, the award shows and events and stuff. It very far away even going to high school like seeing like when we had one
football game where like Zac Efron in the high school musical cast came and it still felt like
far i don't know you were like but it didn't feel like just regular people you're like these are
celebrities i was yeah because i wasn't even i'm gonna be at the football game then my friend
told me they were there and i zoomed over. I love that. I was like,
Mom, we gotta go.
Mom, we gotta go.
Like time for a new football game tonight.
Like what?
I feel you.
Honestly, I feel that.
Like if someone tells me someone's gonna be somewhere,
I'm gonna be like, you know what, let me just try.
Every time that's happened to me though,
someone's like, oh, this person might be there.
This, and they never, I never see them.
I'm like, gosh, I, you know,
get my hopes up for nothing.
I don't even think I, they were far when I saw them.
People just pointed out, oh, there they are,
but I was not even close in proximity to them either.
So I got to meet Zach out front of Vanessa Hudgens.
You never got to meet them?
No, I only met Ashley Tisdale
of the high school musical gang.
She's the most iconic.
Yeah, I think just Ashley Tisdale.
I love her.
Me too.
I mean, she's promoting Phineas and for me
Please I think she's the most iconic. I love her
I made you love a Zac Efron every time I do bet on it
I was like, oh that would be cool if he came out and like started singing with me or something
But that does is a queen. So yeah, he said she said still goes off
He said she said that's like my chronic discography and the kiss the girl when she did her version Yeah, I loved it. Shut up
Like the boys too shy and gonna
In her little music video for the house. She was so good little dance party. Yeah, she's like in a middle school dance
Or something. Oh, actually she was I was also actually to the stand. I'll add her to my
Me too, I was the biggest fan like who were you not a fan of you were a Katy cat fan Oh, no, Kathy Mc a fan of everyone. Me too. I was the biggest fan. I was like, who were you not a fan of?
You were a Katy Kat fan.
Oh no, Katharine McPhee, I keep getting,
oh but you were a Katy Kat.
I was also, yeah.
You watched a Mean Greet.
Yeah, I did go to a, you're right.
I think I did just kind of live forever.
Not unlike me now, actually.
I just love all the pop girls.
Who's your pop girl in Mount Rushmore?
I just saw someone say they're Mount Rushmore.
Sadie Sink at the Tony.
You said her.
I love, you're so smart. You are like an encycl the Tonys did her. I love it. You're so smart.
You are like an encyclopedia that just knows everything.
I just on line too much.
That's crazy.
Because I saw it somewhere.
You're like, oh, nope.
Pop Graves, Sadie Sink said this.
I think also our algorithms are very similar.
Yes.
I'm always like, OK, I love this.
Yeah, Sadie Sink at the Tonys gave MTV her pop girly
Mount Rushmore.
I think hers was Taylor Swift.
Who else? Addison Rae. I think hers was Taylor Swift, who else?
Addison Rae, I forgot the other two.
Tate McCray?
Maybe Tate McCray, and then I forgot,
there was one other one, obviously, that I forgot.
Yeah, I do too.
Who's yours?
Kinda easy right now, to be honest.
It's Taylor, Olivia Rodrigo, Cat's Eye has moved up,
you guys, breaking news. Wow!
Even on my most played on Apple Music for May,
gnarly, I've to you over 500 times.
It's kind of crazy.
Oh my gosh.
I'm an I let the record show I am a gnarly truth there because I know cats I was gonna
really blow up very very soon.
So you've you got on the ground floor.
Let let everyone know I was on early.
Let everyone know they use our sound.
What was it July of last September of last year.
Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. We're early on. Yes.
And then maybe Chappell's tour? Oh wow. Or, or, or, that's tough. The fourth one is tough.
I want to say Chappell. I do like everyone because I'm maybe Sabrina, maybe Ariana. I
love Sabrina. Sabrina would be on mine.
I'm going to say chapel, though.
I'm going to have some queer in there.
Yeah, that's true.
I think half of Cat's Eye is queer, actually, so they count.
But I'll do chapel.
I'll do chapel.
I like Sabrina Addison.
Do you know Fletcher?
I just wrote up Fletcher.
And I would say I'm kind of a buddy who now.
I'm like a buddy who stan. I also do. I'm a buddy who. I know she's been around for a while, but I would say I'm kind of Betty Who now. I'm like a Betty Who stan.
I also do a Betty Who.
I know she's been around for a while, but like I do love her.
I saw her at the Streamys actually in 2018.
Is that the one in New York?
On Shorty Awards.
Shorty's, yes.
Shorty, I saw her in 2018 at the Shorty Awards.
I guess she opened for Panic! at the Disco, they said too.
Oh wow, man.
I remember seeing her there and I was like,
I love this so much.
That was the one I was at the table with all the
men that were
Is that was that the one Casey nice staff? There was just all these guys that were just like awful
Oh, anyways, Betty who was there and she I remember thinking she was so cool and she was so nice
I love her. I don't know mine changed to all the time cuz Ariana's she coming out with new music
So I was like, okay apply like staying her again, too. Yeah, you're very much recency bias. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, I love chapel, you know, but I yeah
Yeah, I think the second anyone does something new I feel like you'll you'll look at like adison's new song hits
And manchild. I love that one. I know people are like not excited about it, but I think that video hits
I like it. Yeah
Yeah, and adison
Shout out because her album was rated an eight on pitchitchfork, which is like, it's a music
review site.
They're very hard.
Like they're very, like for context, like Billie Eilish's last album got like a 6.8.
Oh wow, her album got an 8?
What is it like Max Martin, right?
Isn't that the one who did like all Britney's like baby one more time?
I think, no, she did it at, she recorded at Max Martin's studio, but I think it was a
team of three women
produced her album, which is cool.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, that's pretty cool.
Yeah.
She was at a pop-up show in New York.
She did like a Spotify thing.
She did a little concert.
I loved it with her underwear and bras.
Like she looks so good.
It's so crazy to see the main pop girlification of Addison.
She, not even Addison Rae, she's told Quinn.
Right. She is just Addison Rae. Drop the Rae.ison Rae, she's told Quinn. Right.
She is just Addison now, drop the Rae.
The Rae, yeah.
Such a good move.
I like that.
Yeah.
She's really just, she has become so mainstream.
And just, do you see her on top of the car outside
of New York City?
Yes, people's princess.
Everyone's flooding the car, and she's sitting outside,
blowing kisses to all the gays.
Oh my god, I love it.
Could you imagine if I tried to sit on top of a musk-o-lane?
Oh my god, you'd leave in the Broadway show, and was like, whoa. Oh my God, I love it. Could you imagine if I tried to sit on top of a mescaline? What?
Oh my God, you leaving the Broadway show
and you got out.
Bye.
I probably would have dented it.
I remember I had a dent.
You would not have dented it.
Yes, I had a dent on my G-Wagen.
I think, okay, I will just say,
I think it was from Shane.
He's very skinnier than me.
So by the way, but he got up there.
I would never because I was like,
I know I'm gonna dent this car,
but I remember he got up there
and the G-Wagen's dent in the middle.
It's not cause he was big.
He's obviously very like thin back then, too.
But I remember it dented.
So I had the dent in my G wagon for like so long because he like got up in the middle of it.
Something I would never do because you remember like Kim Kardashian.
You know what? Come to think of it, I think I did do a pose.
I'll find a picture of it.
I think I did do the Kim Kardashian, where she was like laying on the range
over my G wagon. I probably dented it too.
Anyways, that G wagon was very dented by the time I traded it in.
There was definitely a dent for me and definitely I think Shane went up there. And then I was like, oh, I've already dented it too. Anyways, that jeeg and wagon was very dented by the time I traded it in. There was definitely a dent for me and definitely,
I think Shane went up there and then I was like,
oh, I've already dented it so it's fine, but.
Maybe that says more about the car than y'all.
No, for sure.
Yeah.
But that was when I was skinny,
I mean he's very skinny now,
but that's when I was like skinnier.
I'm just trying to think now
if I were to get up on the G wagon.
Oh, I feel like maybe he'd get on something a little sturdier.
Like, but that's a tank, that's a tank that you're literally.
Is it? I think so. I think you're supposed to roll 40 times and be okayurdier. Like, but that's a tank. That's a tank that you're literally going to... Is it? I think so.
I think you're supposed to roll 40 times and be okay in it.
And...
Yes.
Really?
I mean, I think they've used it for like, I don't know, military purposes or something.
I don't know.
They use the Fingy Wagon.
Well, and G-Wagon.
And the Ford.
Yes. Am I right?
G-Wagon's a military car.
I mean, it's like the sturdiest Mercedes there is.
It's the sturdiest.
What car is sturdier?
A Hummer?
I guess those are coming back now.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about cars.
I got to figure out.
The freaking Tesla people are hounding me about my lease,
and I keep not answering the calls.
What are you doing?
I don't know.
Is he back?
He's on the good side again?
No, he still sucks.
Still a loser.
I thought he was overt.
I thought we were, OK.
No, he still sucks.
Yeah.
So we'll get rid of the Teslas.
What are you gonna get?
I don't know.
I really don't know.
Cause I don't know anything about cars.
I don't know.
What's a car for Oscar?
You're a car person.
What's a, what screams Oscar?
You want to stay electric?
Yeah.
VW Volkswagen van.
Me and your mom, actually.
Yes.
I would love.
I would love to.
Do you care about the size of it?
Not really.
I don't think so.
I'm kind of down for whatever.
Like your director, Andrew, he drives a Rivian.
Darian likes a Rivian.
Those trucks?
I can see you in one of those.
They also have an SUV version of it.
Oh.
That is your vibe, yes. I mean, Andrew's bougie. I remember when I saw him with that Rivian, I was like, I have bougie over here. I can see you in one of those. They also have an SUV version of it. Oh. That's one.
That is your vibe, yes.
I mean, Andrew's bougie.
I remember when I saw him with that ravine, I was like, I have bougie over here.
Oh, are they expensive?
I don't know.
I call everything.
People also tell me I should stop calling people bougie.
That's true.
It's me with the little boobies that say bougie.
I say everything's bougie, but it's maybe not bougie.
Everyone comes with electric cars now, so and yeah the prices are much
whatever's cute i guess i don't know try the vw van okay aren't they your mom said they were recalls
yeah but i think they're coming back i think they're back now i know she's like waiting for it
she's run from that's like a four transit she wants now i was like what happened to the cute vw
vote ticket van? That's a big that's a big car like the way he dressed now like you can imagine
even if Rivian yeah it's it's just Rivian does fit you.
It feels modern and new.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because Andrew just always feels like fresh and new.
He always seems to know the new things.
So that's why I was like, that's a cue.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I think that'd be good.
I do love this outfit today.
It's very cute.
Oh, thanks.
It feels like we're having a bowling league.
That's our shirts.
I like it so much.
You and two years of the Justress.
Yes.
Our merch three years later is the Justress shirt.
We have a new color scheme.
It looks good.
I like the matching and the pink today.
I love our hot topics.
We have one Miley Cyrus one.
So good.
What about the new, I thought of you with this, the new trend that Kylie Jenner kind
of started about giving the exact details about her boob job.
I saw something, where was this?
This was on TikTok.
First of all, I think she didn't have a boob job.
No she's open.
Oh she's always, she always talks about it.
Okay.
Yeah, she's been fairly open about getting her boobs done.
She talked about in the Kardashians, I think, yeah in 2023 in the Kardashians, I think. Um, yeah, in 2023 in the Kardashians, she talked about like how she, um, regret
regretted getting her boobs done so early because like they changed some, like she
thought her breasts in retrospect were perfect when she was like 19 and then,
um, after like giving birth to Stormi, she's like, damn, she regretted it.
It changes so much.
Yeah.
That's a good note for people. Yeah. Very similar to you. She even said like for Stormi, She's like damn she regretted it. It changes so much. Yes. Yeah, that's a good note for people.
Yeah, very similar to you. She even said like for Stormi, she's like if she told me at 19
she wanted a boob job, she'd be like I would really tell her um just maybe wait. So she wants like
de-influence. Love that. Yeah, love it. But her boobs do look good now. They do. Yeah. So now people are like
well I don't care. Give me that boob job. There was a, someone posted a TikTok asking,
Rachel Leary posted a TikTok asking
for Kylie Jenner's implant information.
And she actually did see it.
She saw it and commented,
445CC, moderate profile, half under the muscle, silicone.
Garth Fisher, hope this helps.
So she gave all the information including her surgeon.
Oh my God, write it down.
I'm going, I need it at Christmas.
Mine are literally in my armpit past my belly button.
Like I'm not kidding, they're so bad right now.
They're so bad.
Mine's been like 10 years.
I've had the kids, oh my God, I'm getting it done.
How much do you think it is?
Okay, I know Dr. Garth Fisher.
I know he does like all the playmates back in the day.
He's been around for a while.
I wonder how much he is.
He's probably, I bet, I bet 30,000.
I bet $30,000.
Really?
Used to be 8,000. When I first got my boobs done in 2011, it was $8,000. I bet $30,000. Really? Used to be 8,000.
When I first got my boobs done in 2011, it was $8,000.
But maybe even more now, probably inflation
and now probably set.
Yeah.
Do you think implants come in the terrace?
Are they imported?
I don't know, probably.
You are putting a foreign object in your body, which is.
You got tea.
Ultimately, I'd like to get mine removed,
but I think I'm gonna maybe do one more round.
That's crazy.
You think it's real?
You think it's sponsored?
I feel like, I think it's probably real. Oh round. That's crazy, you think it's real? You think it's sponsored? I feel like, I think it's probably real.
Even, yeah, I kinda think it's real.
Although then afterwards, I thought it was funny
because then Alex Earl talked about what she got,
the specifics of she got, and so did Fris and Cavallari.
So I'm like, okay, everyone's trying to like get.
I'm gonna start doing mine.
I'm gonna say, I'm like, maybe people wanna know what you.
I have a pig heart in mine apparently.
Wait, what?
Yeah, someone's like, we're gonna put a bohevian heart in you or something.
Like to mesh to the...
It was supposed to like lift it up.
The mesh was supposed to like lift your thing up.
So I have like pig skin in me or something.
What?
Yeah.
Do you like bacon?
I love bacon.
Okay, maybe that's why.
I'm a carnivore.
My inner pig is coming out.
I'm pretty sure they did.
I have had a couple. I'm a carnivore. My inner pig is coming out
I'm pretty sure they did. I've had a couple i'm pretty sure they did. Yeah
I think they put some weird thing in me like to lift them, but they're so saying so like would not recommend
So I definitely need to get them out I definitely feel like I i'm maybe i'm just diagnosing myself so this could be wrong
But I feel like I have some sort of like breast implant illness. I feel like it's like leaking
Like I definitely know but here's the catch you can't get plus surgery if you're like over a certain
weight, so I have to lose like 40 pounds
before I can even get surgery again.
Oh my God.
So it's gonna be my motivation.
40 pounds like from your weight right now?
Cause isn't the baby gonna be?
You would think.
I weighed more when I gave birth last time.
But that was like right after.
Yeah, the bloating of it.
Yeah. Yeah.
So it's from where I am right now probably 60 pounds
Okay, I try to get closer to 200 because that's do like bmi
I think when kale from teen mom was here telling me it has something to do with like bmi and stuff
And i'm sure and I guess it's just like a risk if they don't so probably someone too like garth fisher
He probably only wants to do like perfect people like hylian jenner, but i'll look into it
I love that people are saying it so alexer was just like did she just say it on her own accord or someone asked her?
I guess someone made a TikTok asking.
I guess that's what everyone's kind of doing now,
just posting, asking for the information
and people are giving it.
But I think too, cause Kylie got so much positive PR
cause everyone's like, wow, she's such a girl's girl,
giving her the information.
Now I feel like everyone's like,
oh, it's a girl's girl, let's talk about your implant.
I feel like everyone's like, sure.
That's a good trend, cause at because now you can say who has them.
Yeah true. And yeah to like give someone your information is like so
yeah especially a doctor because like what is it Chris Jenner's face left is
like everyone wants to know that. Yes. Did she give her information in a tit-tat?
The doctor, she must have given the doctor um permission to like
confirm it was him because because it was confirmed to be, what was his name?
Dr. Steven Levine from New York was the doctor responsible for Kris Jenner's wonderful
facelift or whatever else she got.
Now she has merch.
She has merch of her new face now that Kris Appleton wore the other day from Rob Kardashian's
line Arthur George fashion. It's still around? I guess so. Those little socks? Now it
gets his shirt. Making t-shirts, I love that. It says I'll have what Chris Jenner is having and
Chris Appleton wore it. Oh I love that. And Kim Kardashian commented on his Instagram
said me too babe and Khloe said ditto which is which is when I first saw Chris's new
face I thought it was Courtney that it's crazy no she literally was like Kim
like she looks so young insane actually is crazy how weird is that like look at
yourself and be like look so I know but I guess like we always have on our heads
we feel young so maybe it's just like how you feel in time yeah cuz she's
still I mean even on the show she is like very much a key.
Like she's still, yeah.
For sure, she'll go camping, she'll like do whatever,
you know.
The price is rumored, again, this is just people,
I guess like that were speculating based on what they know
of Dr. Steven Levine that is around $174,000.
I guess that kind of makes sense, right?
For a facelift. Cause I'm sure it's other stuff, it's probably- $174,000 I guess that kind of makes sense right for
Cuz I'm sure it's other stuff. It's probably it's more than face. Yeah, it's like time travel
You're gonna say half a million
No, no, I thought you're gonna say that so
How much is it about rumored allegedly a hundred seventy four thousand somebody that is a multi-millionaire
Look like that
And I guess like were you telling me something like the nerves like it's like really sensitive like you can like go blind
Someone was telling me like those kind of faceless are scary
For sure because it's like yeah right there by the nerves. Yeah, I was like you have to do so meticulous
I guess it is like and also can all have like the scars and stuff too.
It has to be so like precise.
I think AJ from the Backstreet Boys was saying that
that he didn't want like the scars from like a facelift
or something so.
174,000, well, if I had that money I probably would've.
Yeah, she has so much money where it's like, might as well.
And I'm sure she maybe got a discount or something.
Payment plans, can you do plan?
After pay. I love a plan. After? Afterpay. I love a Klarna.
Afterpay, yes.
I love an Afterpay.
Me too, because it just feels better.
Yes.
To just pay a little bit of her.
I did that with Versace purse, it was like $2,000,
but I'm like, I'll have to put like 50 bucks up front.
You know what I mean?
There's a girl on Twitter, shout out Ducky,
because she posted a screenshot.
She was doing her Postmates orders on Klarna or Afterpay,
whatever, and it was like $2 Domino's and like it was
She got all of it at once like all the invoices at the beginning of the month for all her Postmates orders
She was like damn Postmates not all at once. How much was it?
It was a not it was like I don't know maybe like 50 bucks or something
But it's just funny seeing all the notifications to like four dollars. That's kind of everything. They do that
They do that on there. I guess so because Ducky did it from Twitter. That's her name?
Yeah, Ducky.
I love it.
Ducky is so cute.
Is that her real name?
I don't know, actually.
I love that.
Maybe.
She's an angel though, so I feel like you would like her.
What's that mean?
Like Charlie fan.
Charlie Stan.
Oh, I love that they call Charlie fans angels.
Why do they do that?
Because it's Charlie's angels.
I love that.
Are you an angel?
Yeah.
I don't like to appropriate Stan cultures like that, so I won't say I'm an angel. I'm a light angel. Angel adjacent.
I'm like a brat lover.
Yeah, okay. I'm weird.
I like I changed her new album. I love her watching Overcome singing. I liked her old stuff too.
Like, I love the summer day when you're gone. I don't care.
I loved it.
I love it.
I didn't know that was her. I love that song. Because we were saying that. We were like, is that her song? Because. I love it. I love it. I don't know that was her. I love that song.
Because we were saying that like is that her song? Because like I loved it.
Charlie with Iconopop and they're like a duet, a duo to I think Swedish girls.
Iconopop. That was such a good song. Yeah. Boom clap. Yes.
Fancy. I'm so fancy. I think that was like I tell ya. With Charlie X. Yeah.
She's the one that sings the non-rap part.
What?
So she's been big.
She's been around.
Yeah, she has hits.
She seems like new.
She has hits.
It's the same like Sabrina all of a sudden
coming out 10 years later,
Chappell all of a sudden coming out 10 years later.
The overnight success 10 years later.
Yeah, very much that.
I love that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Love Charlie XCX, yeah.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I don't want to appropriate Stan Klauser. I do love that. Yeah. Okay. I love Charlie XCX. Yeah. I, yeah, I, with you, I don't want to appropriate Stan
Kalsher. I do love her. I try to infiltrate so many of the fandoms, you know, because it's fun to be a
part of something, you know. Um, didn't I send you that Charlie XCX video though? I forget, I don't
even know what year it's from, but she had that little bob with the curl at the end and she was
reading a Q&A and she was like, I have a feeling you're bi. You give bi vibes. And Charlie goes, um, I'm not bi. Um, I'm really sorry. She was
like so sad to break the news. I'm like, that is so something. I didn't know that was her.
I remember you showed it to me. I didn't know that was her. I love that. I'm sorry. I'm
sorry to let you know. She was so sad. The disappointment. I was like, oh, did you see,
I think you might've shown me this.
It's really old.
Is it Josh Hutcherson?
Is that his name from Hunger Games?
Yes.
You saw his anti-homophobia campaign.
No, wait, I don't know if I did.
It's like really old.
And he's like, you know, why are you hating on gay people?
Doesn't that mean more chicks for you?
You've never seen that one?
No.
Oh my God, I was on my chick chat.
Oh, straight but not narrow?
Straight but not narrow.
It's here. You've seen it or no?
No, I just saw it right now.
So, there's a lot of gay people out there
talking to gay people about being gay,
but we are a group of straights.
Straights?
Straights.
And we're here to say that we're OK with people being gay.
Does it really matter if your guy friends like guys over girls?
I mean, doesn't that kind of just leave more girls for you?
Come on, Joshie.
We're not going to let anybody say anything bad about anyone,
ever again in the history of the world.
Straight but not narrow.
What?
What was that. Love it.
You think that's real on a satire?
It's real.
He's been about it.
He's been an ally.
He's like, we're okay with you being gay.
I love that Josh Hutcherson.
I really do.
He's in the new Rachel Senet show with like, Quinn Blackwell.
Really?
Yes.
And Jordan Firstman's in it too.
What?
What is this show?
It's on HBO. It's in production right now. But yeah,man's in it too. What? What is this show? It's on HBO.
It's in production right now.
But yeah, Josh is in it.
And Jordan Firstman, who is like,
he's the one that did the, if you guys don't know,
he's the one that did the Fatima with Rachel Sennett meme
that we talked about.
Yes, interviewed me for, what was it, Polyester?
Oh yes, Polyester.
He was like so cool.
He's friends with everybody, yes. Robert Pattinson, he's like really good friends with. He was like so cool. Everybody. Yeah
Pattinson, he's like really good friends with yeah, he has a song called my friends and
Josh Hutchinson sing it with him and I was like, okay ally
He said I want to see my friends something like that
Yes with him and I'm like he really is straight but not narrow. And what year is this from?
Is this recent?
14 years ago.
What a funny campaign.
And what does that mean, straight but not narrow?
Like not narrow minded.
Like, yes, I'm straight, but not narrow minded.
Love it.
We need more honestly, we need to bring this back in this day and age.
You're right.
Absolutely.
Oh, you're not straight though, I guess. I right, absolutely. Let's get you, oh you're not straight though I guess. And homophobia.
I can play straight, I can do whatever they need, you know what I mean?
That is so funny.
That was the key one.
You know who should be the new straight but not narrow is Jeff Wittek.
I really need him to do one, can you imagine?
He was commenting all over my Pride stuff.
I love.
He's like, where's my invite?
Why didn't you tell me about this?
I was like, what is happening?
He still hasn't done his interview with Glad with me.
So once he does Glad, yes.
Oh, we should get him on its pride month.
He's going through a lot.
He is.
He feels like he's doing a little bit better.
He made his comeback.
I laid off the request to do the Glad interview
when I saw he had pneumonia and then eye surgery about.
Yeah, he's going through a lot.
Yeah.
We could have him come back and do it.
Yeah, he would be good at that.
I do think he's a really good ally.
He does give Josh Anderson in that thing
where he means well, but misses the mark a little bit,
but we're like, we get you, we got it.
I love that one too, where he's like,
why do you care if your guy friends like guys?
Doesn't that mean more chicks for you?
Why?
He looks around too, he's like,
it's very you if you had to do that.
I know.
Are we straights?
Straights, is that what we're calling it? It's so funny. It just popped up on my TikTok. I was like, oh yeah very you if you had to do that. I know. Are we straights? Straights, is that what we're calling it?
It's so funny.
It just popped up on my TikTok.
I was like, yeah, yes.
I need homophobia.
I don't know how I missed it
because I was very much in the Josh Hutcherson fandom.
I know, I saw it.
It was probably around the same time as the Hillary Duff one,
too.
Maybe there was a big anti no gay, no hate.
When, when, 2011?
Yeah, like Hunger Games.
So yeah, this really would have been peak.
That's so funny.
Yeah, me being hyper fixated on Josh Hutcherson.
There was a, Ben Verde was at my meet and greet.
He auditions for things and he was talking about
how he appreciated when we talked about like how,
you know, gay roles should go to gay actors.
Cause he's like, I just never get the straight roles.
I always audition, I can never get the straight roles.
Like I have to go out for the gay roles.
But he said he was on a movie with Jacob Elordi last year
where Jacob Elordi played a gay guy.
Yeah, I think that's coming out.
It's not out yet.
No, I saw the trailer came out or something.
It's something riding horses or something.
Something like that, yeah.
And he was just like, it just sucked
because that was a role I could have played.
I was like, damn it.
On swift horses.
Yes, Ben Verdi was apparently in that movie.
Wow, work.
But he was like, yeah, he goes, it's just, you know,
it's frustrating because Jacob Elordi can play straight. Give him a straight role, you know? But he was saying Ben thought he was like, yeah, it's just you know, it's frustrating because Jacob Lordy can play straight
Give him a straight role, you know, yeah, but he was saying Ben thought he couldn't pull off straight because he auditioned for another straight role I still think he'll get it. It's supposed to take place in France. I'm like, I still think you can get it
I think you pull it off
But he's like just wish there was more gay roles for me to play and he and the straights keep taking on
Yeah, I was like, yeah, it's really J. Will already you can play everything
It's like we love of course like it's how yeah, we'd love to see you know, Jacob Jacob Lordy, he can play everything. It's like, we love, of course, like it's, yeah,
we'd love to see, you know, Jacob Lordy play gay, but also.
Yeah, like, cause at least Benny, Benny Drama.
Yeah.
Is gay in his own gay role.
Yeah, and they all were, right?
Everyone in the show that played his love interest.
I think so.
Like Lucas Gage is out.
Yeah, but then in adults, the FX slash Hulu showulu show Jack in and then I think he's straight
Yeah, he's gay though. I guess bye. I think he's buying the show. I haven't watched
I've only seen the first episode of things, but I think I am
But he's straight and but all the games love him because he's playing the by
That I get it cuz I do love a broke back mom. I do love that movie. But yeah, he's you know, he's
I get it because I do love a broke back mom. I do love that movie, but yeah, he's you know, he's
You know jacket from Twitter. He's pretty funny. I followed him for a while Twitter Jack in and in what I looked him up
What were you watching something? I looked him up and he like came up and I was like, who is this? Oh
We were thinking I was on my phone. Oh
Maybe patreon. He's like pulled up. Yeah. Yeah, I don was like, oh, OK. I don't know him, but I know of him. Yeah, he's really funny.
But yeah, he knows that he's on the precipice
of being White Boy of the Month.
And the girls in the gay is both love him.
OK, I mean, you can't follow me both.
No, he seems very, very sweet too.
And so I'm happy for his White Boy of the Month title.
Is he yours?
Maybe after I finish adults, he will be. After I finish. After I finish
cruising. Is adults good? I haven't watched it. I just watched the Julia Box clip. Everyone
really loves it so far. Everyone who watched Overcomminstating I think went to adults right
after. Is it by the same number? No, but Owen, I don't know how to pronounce his last name.
Theo?
Sorry, I don't know.
He's also a TikTokker.
But he's- He was in both.
Yes, he is.
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
So-
I saw, yeah, I saw a Ben and John posted about him.
He's kind of the breakout star.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he's in both back to back.
And-
Good for him.
I love when people just start getting both.
Like Jordan Firsman too.
I was in his just like everywhere.
And everything, yeah.
I love that.
I love how people like when they get connected,
they're just like so connected.
I've just never been that person ever to like get connected. Like even this tour, which I'm like again,
I'm thankful we sold that was great. But it's like, you know, people always have like, like Jake
Shane has like the chain smokers, you know what I mean? I'm like, how are they getting these special
guests? You know what I mean? I met Tiana, she was very special, but it's so crazy how these people
just get people to come out. Like here, here's, I know this person, you know, like Addison
with Charlie and Troy, it's like, they're just all like this duo trio, you know?
Yeah.
It's the same with Addison too.
I forgot to even touch on the fact that like Ed Sheeran is saying how great
her album is, Lorde is saying how good her album is, Dochi.
Um, yeah, like, so it's not only critics, it's like the whole other artists are really building her up.
And it is really crazy.
And Sheeran is like an influencer stan because he was like Alex Warren stan.
True.
And look what Alex Warren, number one for like two weeks or four, maybe more.
He's number one for a few weeks.
Literally months I feel.
It's been crazy.
Good for him, but damn, good for them.
I love when people just take off
It's just so wild to me, I don't know I guess it's how fame works I guess people take off that's what it is, but
At least we're on the pulse of it kind of
Kind of sort of I know I think your breakout is gonna be though
Ma to I do think ma to you're gonna be in it.
Oh, I would love.
Cause it's also by Blumhouse and Universal.
So maybe Megan will get you, Eladora will be open.
You tweeted about Ma2 that you love her Bob.
You said this Bob is, what did you say?
Love this Bob or something.
Did I say that?
Oh my God.
I don't remember tweeting that.
You quote tweeted Ma.
Because that came to sponsor, right?
Yes.
Oh, I do love her Bob.
Did I say it?
That's so funny.
You quote tweeted Ma getting a sequel.
You said, love this Bob.
Oh, no, you said, this Bob eats.
Oh my god.
I don't know when this was.
You randomly get a little like, I don't know, you have a go-go juice or something.
Because all of a sudden you just quote tweet a lot at once and I'm like, okay, we're.. I think I'm traveling I don't have anything to do so sometimes I just like want to comment on stuff.
I okay I do think like Octavia Spencer yeah I feel like me and her would get similar roles
there's certain people like Jennifer Coolidge like Octavia Spencer so when I saw it's a horror movie
what's it about? She plays um it's a revenge thriller with Octavio Spencer playing a killer.
Basically, she becomes attached to this group of like, hit the college, I forget their college or
high school, and they come and party at her basement. And she like gets like obsessed and
attached with them and stuff. And she thinks like they're cool, because she finally has friends and
there's like these kids. And she's like, Yeah, come to mom's house. And she thinks like they're cool because she finally has friends and there's like these kids
and she's like, yeah, come to mom's house.
And she's like, having like hosting the party for them.
But then when they get creeped out, she snaps.
Why do they get creeped out?
Because there's this like middle-aged woman
that's like always inviting them over
and getting really zessa.
Yeah, she's hosting you guys, okay?
Be nice to her, man.
Oh, your team ma.
Team ma for sure.
Don't make her drink alone.
Yeah, honestly, that sounds like it would have been my life
had I not met Moses.
I would have been that woman too,
for being like, come party at my house.
You know what I mean?
No worries.
Yeah.
So that's on them, honestly.
I hate little brats like that who don't appreciate
what people do for them.
It's like, OK, you're taking advantage of all this stuff
that she's providing you by getting them alcohol.
Yeah, that's how it starts.
Yeah.
So OK, you can't just use people and not expect, like, give her a little friendship in return. But she tries to kill them, so's how it starts. Yeah. So, okay. You can't just like use people and not expect like, oh, give her a little friendship.
But she tries to kill them. So I don't know. What are they?
Holes? Probably. I bet they are. I'm sure one of them is homophobic for sure.
Because there's always isn't that the whole plot of Megan too is like she does it in protection of the her her child.
Oh, yes of Katie.
Yeah, so Megan protects the girl that she is the doll of.
Yeah, so if you're an asshole to the girl,
like she's gonna come get you.
Like didn't she chase like some boy into the street
and then he got like ran over by a car.
Megan?
Yeah.
Yeah, so okay, well don't be mean.
Okay, more like that.
You know what I mean?
So I feel Maz probably the same.
I like this bloom house.
I like that they have at least,
at least they have like reasoning behind it, right? It's like you're not just going after randoms. You're like
Because you know those Jason movies are just like teenagers without our horny. Okay, let's kill. Okay. Okay, but at least this is like something
Little brats. She she actually analyzed them though
I forget if they I forget if they die at the end, but there is some gruesome stuff at the end in the ma
Yes, I think some of them might have died.
I don't remember, but.
I don't know if I tell you guys Spencer, I'd watch anything she's in.
I would love to. Are they casting or what? What's happening?
The movie just got greenlit, so I guess it's in development now.
So I guess if you go to Universal for Megan too, then you can lay the groundwork.
So if you guys are looking for maybe a friend of mine,
or like-
I was gonna say like a lesbian lover.
Oh, my head was thinking,
cause then Megan, like it's Megan versus another doll.
So what if it was like,
Ma versus sis.
The new mom, yeah.
I'm also in town having young kids come to my house
and partying.
That would be so-
Ma versus sis would be kind of fierce.
Love it.
Casmy, give me that bob. It does, it is a cool bob. I do love fierce. I love it. Casmy, give me that bob.
It is a cool bob.
I do love it.
I love it.
I'm down for it.
She also did something I look up to and I'm like, I love that she's getting those roles.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's just a cool role for women.
I love that she won the Oscar and then did Maw.
I'm like, that's fierce.
What's she won the Oscar for?
The help, I believe.
Oh, she did Maw after?
Yes.
I love that too.
I think that's fierce.
She's like, yeah, I'm an Oscar, but I'm going to do this role, and it's going to be iconic.
And she was right.
I guess you just know, yeah.
I love the memes that come out of her behind the brick wall
laughing, and then she's the one where she drives and runs
over someone.
It's fierce.
I think it's fierce when it's like, yeah,
like Megan's a doll or like, you know, Mazamaw.
You know what I mean?
I feel like it's cuter.
It has a campiness.
As opposed to like a Jason, like just something scary.
More dubious.
Yeah.
Or like the little puppet.
The little puppet, the saw puppet.
Oh, I've never seen those.
I've never seen them either.
I did see Final Destination like last week and it was pretty.
And there was no like the villain is death.
So there's no like monster or anything.
The villain is death.
Like, I mean, you've never seen any of the final the final destiny even in your horror phase because they're so gruesome
I thought back in your pick me or I would have been I love it
Those were enough for me, but the saw I know the final station someone was in a tanning bed and died, right?
I remember that or like the log, but no one's doing it. No was in a tanning bed and died, right? I remember someone talking about that. Yes, yeah, or like the log.
But no one's doing it.
No one's like chopping them in there.
I only saw this new one
because my friend Rebecca wanted to see that.
And, but it's like the franchise,
it's been around since I think 2001,
but the plot it always is, is like someone has a premonition
that something bad is gonna happen.
So they figure out to not go or do that thing that causes the death.
And then but the moral of the story is death is coming.
You're not you can't avoid death.
So you might have missed dying here, but now death's going to come for you.
In other ways, I like that. So Raven, honestly, kind of is like literally
and then tries to change it.
But you can't really change it.
Yes, you always see it like she saw it differently.
It's like, oh, I was trying to change all that
and that happened.
Yes, T, that is kind of, it is kind of like
horror, That's So Raven.
Oh my God, they still her nachos.
Honestly, yeah.
Oh, I guess it kind of came out before
That's So Raven to be honest.
Oh, Smoore Raven took the nachos.
Yeah.
It wasn't good, did you like it?
But I did like it, yeah.
But it's like really, really gory.
And it's like body horror, so I close my eyes a lot.
But it is kind of campy, I guess,
because they die in crazy ways.
But what's like the entertainment factor of it?
I think people like the creative ways that they die
because it's supposed to be like,
it's not good if you're anxious
because it's supposed to be like very mundane things
that would like lead to your death.
Like you're walking down the street
and someone kicks a soccer ball
and then it makes something fall
and then pushes you into a garbage can
and the garbage truck comes thinking,
not knowing you're in there
and then puts you in and smashes you.
So yeah.
We need to get a limpio,
like get the egg and crack it and put it under the bed.
I'm doing that tonight.
All this energy.
I'm like, oh, let's just crack it.
That's crazy.
That's a horror vibe, yeah.
Oh, I don't claim that negative energy.
That's crazy.
So you just wanna keep the mom, Megan,
if Megan three maybe, yeah.
Yeah, like the cuteness of it, okay, yeah.
Yeah, I do like, I prefer a campy,
like I'm not, when I watched Megan,
I wasn't like closing my eyes.
I'm like, oh, this is kind of slay, you know?
Yeah, I can't imagine.
The end of mom's pretty gruesome, but the rest of it was pretty slay, you know? Yeah, I can't imagine. The end of Maul is pretty gruesome,
but the rest of it was pretty slay.
I don't know if I'd watch it.
I don't know if I could even be in those movies, honestly.
I honestly think I'd be scared.
Cause I get scared, like I scare myself.
I scare when Moe's runs into the room.
I'm like, ah, like I get like so scared.
You are pretty jumpy.
I'm very jumpy.
Like that's just not my thing.
So I don't know.
I guess I'd be a good horror actress in that way.
Did you end up seeing FNAF?
You did yeah yeah but that's like that wasn't scary did anyone die? Yeah. They didn't show it they little kids. No they like allude to the death I think. Yeah but no main characters died
or anything. I don't remember I don't remember. I thought it was just like cutesy like Josh Hutchinson
was there. Yeah Matthew Lillard.
Yeah, that's kind of Megan vibes too. Also Blumhouse. So okay, now you really, you have some options.
Okay, I love Blumhouse. That's the only horror films I like. Anything else? No, thank you.
I love, what's the new one? What's the new FNAF coming out?
I think this year, this October I think.
It was cutesy. I love Matthew Lillard. Hit him in anything. I'm like, yes, I love him so much.
So, whenever you do Megan, you really gotta him over because that's that's your big break. I know be like here's my opportunity to get it.
I want to interview Ma as Ma that'd be fun.
Oh my god I need you to interview Ma after Megan. Oh my god that's everything. That'd be fun I would
love it. I need to see Ma. I need to see you with the mushroom bob. I'll just do it.
I'll just do it anyways.
I'll manifest it.
Because she looks so cute in it.
I do love the little mushroom bob.
It's cute.
I wonder whose idea that was.
It's fierce.
I love it.
People know.
Blumhouse knows the styling, that's for sure.
I love it.
Oh, I have a follow up to the Sidney Sey bath water. So because it did go on sale.
Did you end up buying it?
No, I missed it because I think after we filmed last time, I was like, gone.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, I didn't get it.
No, it sold out within minutes.
So it's only 5000 bars were made and it sold for eight dollars.
But the website crashed when it went on sale
and people were waiting for up to 250 minutes.
That's coming out, that's four hours.
Oh my gosh, did they get some more?
No, only 5,000.
And then people started reselling it on eBay
and the prices range from $100 all the way
up to $1,000 per bar.
People really wanted to get their hands on that.
Were people buying it or just was selling for that much.
I think I don't know actually.
I imagine they must have had a lower
because that's such a dramatic range of price
100 to 1000.
So I feel like this is me ever comment on it.
Yes, she did say she talked to E news.
She said, I think it's fun to see why everyone
I think it's fun to see everyone talk
about it. And she said it was her idea and that she's the one that pitched it. Love that, girl boss.
Honestly, T, because I was thinking about it too, because it is still very, very divisive. Like,
people are like, oh, it's kind of sad that she has to do this or whatever. But here's the thing
that we have to remember. Men are gross and they they're gonna sexualize her with or without her permission.
That's true, yeah.
Even if she didn't do topless scenes in Euphoria, guess what?
They're gonna make AI topless videos of her even if she never went topless in anything.
I've seen that, yeah.
Yes.
People do have Hilary Duff and stuff.
Yes, people did have Taylor Swift.
Like people are sick and do that.
So people are gonna sexualize her with or without her permission.
I'm kind of like at least she has the autonomy at least she is making money off of it and it's like all
her consent versus people doing it
Like without her consent making it like even grosser
Yeah, I did see some people be like this is basically just sex work that she's doing.
And there was some backlash from people about it.
Yeah, but I think it's like,
if people are gonna sexualize you,
why not take charge of it?
Yeah, I think that's so smart.
I think that's like, and people don't like to see that.
People are like, oh no, not her doing it.
Yeah, I do wonder,
cause she does do like really serious roles like I do wonder will
The industry treat her the same that's the only thing I thought it was like well
Could she ever still be nominated for like, you know an Oscar or something because she's also doing like the
This kind of campy like marketing whatever that really is the only thing I thought of like will they take her seriously?
But I think if she does like a really good job
in one of the movies, especially because she produces
her own stuff too, that-
Yeah, takes her more seriously.
She did do one where she said she gained 30 pounds
coming out, right?
I think the one where she plays a boxer, yes.
Yeah, yeah, she said she like gained weight for it.
A lot of muscle too, yeah.
Yep, she did say her boobs got bigger too.
Oh, love.
She said my boobs were huge.
I was like, love that, I would see it, I would wanna see it. Because 30 pounds, she did say her boobs got bigger too. Oh, love. She had my boobs were huge. I was like, love that.
I would see it, I would wanna see it.
It's 30 pounds, she was a size 23
and then went up to a size 27 or something for the roles.
Yeah, and the makeover was fierce.
She really did do the work to get into character for that.
When you do a makeover,
that's like Charlize Theron in Monster,
it's almost guaranteed.
Yes, at least a nomination, right?
As long as the product is good,
it still has to be kind of good, right?
I wonder if she will get a nomination.
I don't know, I'm rooting for her.
I think people don't really take her that seriously.
And then obviously, to some people's credit,
yes, she also doesn't take herself too seriously
with the Dr. Squatch of it all, but.
Or was that Anything But You?
What is that one?
What was the move she did?
Anything But You.
Is that Anything But You?
Yeah, it's such a silly move,
because I think she's a great actress, but it's like a silly move. Cause I think she's like a great actress,
but it's like, she does too many.
But then she talked about how like doing that
and how much money it made is what gave her the ability
to do more deals with Sony or even like Madam Webb.
She was like, I did this so I can get my other projects made.
Oh, love that.
So she really is smarter than people give her credit for.
So I still stand by it.
I think it's cool that she's taking agency.
Although my other gripe, the soap has a hole in it. I didn't know about that. What does that mean?
It's a square bar of soap, but there's a hole in the middle. And I'm like, well, this might be,
the hole might be a little too much. Who's in the soap? Who's going at Macy's for a person?
At least they're doing it in their own home.
They're getting it clean.
Cause a lot of guys need to clean down there.
You know what I mean?
Like just get that cheese off.
So she's, maybe she's had some experience.
Honestly, wait, now they usually get the cheese off.
Yeah.
She's like, you know what?
Use this.
Cause she probably had some experiences too
where it's like, that is nasty.
I do not want to smell that.
Especially the straights out there.
I don't know if they know that they're supposed to wash down there sometimes.
They use their hands and then they don't realize they need to wash everything. It's like, okay,
wash it off. Yeah. Do we talk about this? Use your hands or use washcloth or use a loofah?
I use a loofah. Yes. I know you're only pro washcloth. Only pro washcloth. Are you the hands over there?
your only pro washcloth. Only pro washcloth.
Are you the hands over there?
Was that a laugh?
I think it was a laugh.
Yeah, she's cracking up.
She's me.
I thought it was like, wait, what?
Yeah, that was crazy.
Yeah, I use my hands, but also I use a bidet.
So there's nothing to.
Cool, the same thing.
So you like wash your butt with your hands?
Well, there's so much soap on my hands that's not really my hands.
But there's nothing there to even wash.
It's so clean.
It's so clean.
Okay, that logic, I will say, it smells good.
I'm just saying, like,
I don't think that logic is there.
It's like, just because there's nothing there to wash doesn't mean you're not supposed to still wash it.
There's flesh there that just sweats over time.
Hardly ever.
You don't sweat.
I wash.
Everybody's sweat.
I shower so much.
You think the soap just drips down to you?
Okay.
No judgment.
I mean.
You smell fine to me.
I don't think that's what I'm saying.
You know.
I think you smell good.
So maybe it works.
It does work.
Some guys don't though.
Some guys don't especially down there. And I think they don't know. maybe it works. It does work. Some guys don't though.
Some guys don't, especially down there.
And I think they don't know.
Yeah, you just do hands, huh?
Gotta do a washcloth.
I gotta scrub, scrub, scrub.
Loofahs are kind of crazy too,
because it's like, you just reuse it.
For a couple of weeks, I guess.
And then wash it or throw it out.
Throw it out and get a new one.
How much are they?
Like two bucks.
On the clarinoplane after pay? On your dash.
25 cents every week, yeah.
I love that.
Target should have that,
because Target's so expensive too.
Oh.
That's so funny.
We can't end Pride without talking about JoJo Siwa.
She-
Gay pop inventor.
Yes.
Love her.
Queer icon. She never said, right, she's not just queer, right? Yeah, she's queer queer icon.
She never said she's not just queer.
Right?
Yeah, she's queer for now.
She changes and that's okay.
So she clarified the timeline of her relationship with Chris Hughes in a new interview.
Where did she do an interview?
And why is she not here doing the interviews?
Because she's in the UK visiting Chris.
Jojo, when you come back to the US, we'll get you a car service out here.
I really need to talk to her.
I don't need to grill her on her like,
past her childhood trauma or anything like that.
I just, I need to add in so many questions.
In the current, in the now,
I need to have a lot of questions for her.
Even Miley Cyrus does too, randomly.
That's right.
She said she can go back in the closet
and bring her back out again.
Yes, yeah.
Love that.
I love that.
Oh my God, how iconic, Miley Cyrus talking about you.
I know. Miley Cyrus has invested in your new relationship with a man. I love that. Oh my God, how iconic. Miley Cyrus talking about you. I know.
Miley Cyrus has invested in your new relationship with a man.
I love that.
That's iconic.
Jojo is an icon.
You're gonna die.
She did the Rosebud with Giles brand with podcast.
Love that.
What is it?
A thousand views.
I love it.
I was dead.
I was like, okay, work.
I love when people do random podcasts. I love when people do random podcasts. Yeah. Jixie Mattel just did like the Good Charlotte podcast and I was in views, I love it. I was dead, I was like, okay, work. I love when people do random podcasts. Yeah. Jixie Mattel just did the Good Charlotte podcast and I was like.
Good Charlotte, the band?
Oh my gosh.
And I lived, I was like, work.
I do love that too.
I love when people just do something random.
I hope someone does a random just for it.
Yeah, that is the goal.
Come on, Ariana and Cynthia.
Let's do a random podcast today.
Yeah, I love that.
That is wild.
But she talked about her quote unquote,
I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie,
I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie,
I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie,
I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie,
I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie,
I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, That is the goal. Come on, Ariana and Cynthia. Let's see what we're in the podcast.
Yeah, I love that.
That is wild.
But she talked about her quote unquote
beautiful journey with Chris Hughes.
And she said, the word serendipity
is Christopher and I's favorite word now.
If you read the definition of it,
it's essentially finding love
when you're least looking for it.
I don't know how the universe aligned for Chris
to come into my life.
And she said they did start as friends in the house
and that she wasn't looking to fall for him.
She said, we were just having so much fun together.
We were having a laugh together.
Whenever one of us was down,
it was the other one of us that helped.
And she knew that she was happy with him
when she was like, hug him.
She does clarify it was just platonic until she broke up.
But then she said she fell in love as soon as they broke up.
As soon as she broke up.
I love when that happens. Convenient.
It wasn't love. It was after the divorce. Then we fell in love.
I'm like, well, I love the clarification really, you know, but...
It's okay, girl. We get it. You don't have the clarification really, but it's okay, girl.
We get it.
Don't do it.
Just love it.
First sight right after the break.
Yeah.
She said over a little bit of time, I realized that I started to feel something for Christopher
that I never intended to, but I couldn't not feel.
And she says, I'm a very, very lucky girl because he was feeling the same thing.
And she is now visiting him in the UK. She posted
a photo dump of them together captioned nothing beats wholesome and pure days like these.
Christopher being Christopher saying hello to all the different horses, smiling with
the gorgeous horse. Christopher wrote gorgeous, gorgeous boy riding a gorgeous horse. But
then these photos, paparazzi photos kind of went viral.
And granted, in her defense, like paparazzi photos,
you never know like the context of the photo or whatever.
But it was a series of photos and JoJo's like walking,
trying to like be hand in hand with him.
Oh, okay.
And they're going for a walk and she's like,
just unplugged trying to like cuddle with him
and he's on his phone scrolling the whole time.
Do you think it was planned?
Honestly, they're like the hottest couple right now,
so I kind of think no.
Really, you think they're like the sought after couple?
Honestly, and this is someone that is like,
in like, I see all the like the paparazzi photos
and what they sell for and stuff.
And let me tell you, it's a hot,
a Jojo and Chris photo, it's a hot photo. You and what they sell for and stuff. And let me tell you, it's a hot, a Jojo and Chris photo.
It's a hot photo.
You know what they sell for?
Yeah, they sell for a couple thousand.
Yeah.
How do you see that?
Cause we get like pitched all the photos,
like the paparazzi photos from the agencies.
Yeah. And like they're being purchased.
Like people are buying them.
Wow.
Well, they're real.
Either way, that's weird.
If the stage is weird, you're on your phone.
If it's real, it's weird, you're on your phone.
Because especially when you're walking,
especially in a new relationship,
why are you on your phone so much?
Yeah, and again, to their benefit,
it's just a little, literally a snapshot of their date,
their day, but everyone's like, oh my God,
he's, this clearly is not gonna last.
Well, people are just running against it,
which there's a lot of reasons to run against it.
Obviously the age gap is concerning. The quickness.
The quickness. But at the end of the day,
love is love. We are in Pride Month.
It is wild to say like she's like the fact that she's doing the rosebud with
Giles whatever podcast and is like, yeah, head over heels in love.
And like, oh no, Jojo, the pattern is, oh my God.
Yeah. Like why so fast?
I love it. But I was like, what?
I'm a little nervous.
But come on the show, Jojo.
We'll have a talk.
I need to know.
I need to know what it is. Why you fall so in love.
She also in this podcast, she did talk about like how, um, cause it came up that her mom
was like dyeing her hair platinum blonde since she was like two years old. Jojo's hair?
Her real hair is not that color? Oh my God. Her natural hair is, she's a natural brunette.
Her mom's been dyeing her hair since she was two years old. I think that's where it starts.
I think this is where the trauma starts. why are you bleaching her at it too?
That came up in the interview. Oh my god. So yeah, she
Was dying her hair since she was two years old and then on the on the show with Abby, I think she was nine
Yeah, she was nine and she was getting it dyed and Jessalyn said nothing is off-limits when it comes to doing what I think will
Benefit Jojo. She's the Rapunzel of 2013.
And then in another scene, JoJo confirmed that she was dyeing her hair around two, maybe
one and a half.
She said, I'm not a natural blonde.
I'm actually a natural brown.
I get brown roots, so I have to dye it so it looks like I'm a natural blonde.
This is her at nine.
So that's why she says I'm a natural brown.
Obviously, those are her words.
But then she, so she got asked about that in this interview and she said that she has
seen the criticism about her mom, but she doesn't believe that she had like bad intentions.
She said that she credits her mom because if it wasn't for her, that she wouldn't
be where she is right now and she'd probably be like unhappy with her life.
But she does say I do, that she acknowledges that she's only 22 and that'd probably be unhappy with her life, but she does say that she acknowledges
that she's only 22 and that she might look at it differently.
She said, maybe when I'm 25, as my brain develops,
I'll think differently.
She said that?
Yes.
She's listening to the podcast.
Why 25 when your brain develops?
Why those words?
Oh my God.
That's what I'm saying.
She said, she said, right now,
I don't think my mom did anything bad like I love my mom
I wouldn't be here without her, but she said maybe I'll look back at this differently so that's kind of progress right?
Yes progress kudos. We love you Jojo for that but also
We should investigate that more isn't that like literally like that has to be some sort of like
Childlike abuse like putting bleach on their scalp like it's not even good for like adults to have like when you're pregnant You're not supposed to put bleach on their scalp. It's not even good for adults to have. When you're
pregnant, you're not supposed to put bleach on your scalp. So it's like you're doing that to your
two-year-old and obviously not abused on purpose, but that seems something is not right. Right?
Putting bleach? It is wild.
When you're that young, your hair is so short and very brittle.
Like very... Fine.
Yeah. But it's so short. What is she even bleaching even at that age?
One and a half. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of like Elvis's fine. Yeah, but it's so short. What is she even bleaching even in that day? Well, one and a half. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of like Elvis's age.
Oh my God.
The back thing.
When you say that, that's actually crazy.
Yeah, because I think about that because her hair is so curly and all that stuff like that.
And I couldn't imagine putting like, because it, putting bleach, when I did the bleach
and tone my whole life, it's painful.
It burns.
Yes, you're right.
So what?
I hope she's saying that for shock value.
But she said that at nine, before she even knew.
What shock value was?
Yes, yes.
Oh my god. Jess needs to like, teach her better PR to be like, don't talk about mommy bleaching your hair.
Well, I'm surprised they left it in the...
Cause that was a scene in Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition, or whatever, when she was nine, so...
That's what I'm saying is so effed about this show is like this like production is like witnessing all this hearing all this stuff
They're not like stepping in like they're children like you should step in be like okay, and I won't blame on the mom Maybe the mom doesn't know maybe she's like, I don't know this is like fine, but someone probably should be like you probably shouldn't be doing that
That's really
Toxic for anybody. Hmm. I know I will say love you Pittsburgh went to Pittsburgh this weekend
It's like where's all what celebrities are from here., went to Pittsburgh this weekend. I was like, what celebrities are from here?
They started chanting Abby Lee Miller,
and I was like, y'all know what?
I was like, let's get those expectations higher.
Like, Abby Lee, then someone said Gabby Hanna,
I'm like, perfect, that's way better.
Oh, Tia, I was gonna Google, but Gabby is the pride
and joy of Pittsburgh.
Well, Abby Lee apparently was, everyone was chanting,
I'm like, no, we are not doing Abby Lee standing here.
I'm sorry.
I never say that to a crowd.
Whatever they say, I go with that.
I'm like, no, absolutely.
Oh, you really told them.
I did.
Oh, Billy Porter's from Pittsburgh.
Why not Billy Porter?
Oh, yeah.
Zachary Quinto.
Oh, well, okay.
Little problem.
Christina Aguilera?
Oh, they did say her, yes.
We did do a little Christina.
Andy Warhol.
Okay.
Nia Hsu, Maddie Ziegler.
I said Nia.
I was like, because when they all said Abby Lee,
I was like, let's talk about Nia, OK,
the real star of Dance Moms.
And Maddie, yeah.
Yeah.
And Ketan.
Maddie.
Oh, see, they have so many icons.
Why do we chant Abby Lee Miller?
That was crazy.
I couldn't hear it.
And it kept getting louder and louder.
And I was like, what are they saying?
And they're like, Abby Lee Miller.
I was like, stop.
Stop the chant.
That is wild. Mess. I know, because then I was like, is JoJo from there And they're like, Abby Lee Miller. I was like, stop, stop the chant. That is wild.
Mess.
I know, because then I was like, is JoJo from there?
But like, no, she just came later on to do the show.
Oh yeah, Kendall's from, OK, like all the Dance Moms girls.
I guess that's probably where they had it.
Team, probably, all right.
Nia is a queen, though.
I need her on.
I think she has a book out.
I need to get her on this podcast.
Anyways, now that I'm back, I can try and schedule some things.
But all right. Well,
I was waiting for you. Yeah. Like you are a voice. You are the voice.
It's been a whirlwind, but we're happy you're here.
La boo boo's. Yeah. I love how you both held onto the, la boo boo's. You are happy, because that's the happy, yes.
Oh, happy and you are lucky.
Yes.
Today's your lucky day, go get a lottery ticket.
Well, I don't want to encourage gambling, but.
That's too late.
Yeah, exactly, got the la boo boo.
What's mine, my blue one, what was my blue one?
Here's your blue one.
The blue one is?
Hope.
Oh, I love that, hope for sure.
Manifesting hope and peace for everyone out there.
And we'll see you guys
in this week. We're gonna do a double hot topics. We've missed you guys on hot topics
and yeah let us know who you want to see as guests on the podcast. We're about to get
birthed soon so we need to get some guests up in here. We have some good ones coming up
but give us your suggestions as always. We love you guys. stay safe, watch out for yourself and each other, and we'll see you in the next one.
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