Just Trish - Trisha is PREGNANT With Baby Elvis!

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Surprise! Trisha and Moses are expecting baby number 2! That's right, Malibu Barbie is officially a big sister as the Paytas-Hacmon family gets ready to welcome baby Elvis. How long has Trish been keeping her pregnancy a secret? Plus, the 'JUST TRISH' crew reacts to Colleen Ballinger's MESSY return to YouTube for one FINAL segment on the disgraced creator--as well as new details emerging from James Charles' creepy past. And Oscar is officially in his first drama channel feud.  Subscribe to the Podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/just-trish/id1698564262?at=1010lSCj Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6bZ5tfeCt6naGMw24pRMLe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@justtrishpodcast All Podcast Platforms: https://link.chtbl.com/JustTrish?at=1010lSCj Follow Just Trish on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/justtrishpod/ Follow Oscar: https://www.instagram.com/oscargracey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Woo, woo, woo, woo. Hey guys, welcome back to the Just Trish Thanksgiving special. You guys, this is our only episode of the week. It's so sad, but so happy because we're celebrating Thanksgiving. But not how you would think of Thanksgiving. We're just giving thanks, like as in like thank you to the universe. Because Thanksgiving, the original Thanksgiving, is just a whole lot of mess. And we don't want to celebrate that, I guess.

I don't really know. But we're not celebrating that way. We're just celebrating with some turkey and taking a day off. So I'm here, just Trish. And not just Trish today. We have a co-host today. Just today. Just today and every day, Oscar.

Hello. We're Thanksgiving. Oh. Well, Trixie Mattel. Don't come for me. It was Trixie Mattel. I was like, wow, that was good. I'm not claiming that, but yes. I love it. I love Thanksgiving. Oh. Well, Trixie Mattel. Don't come for me. It was Trixie Mattel. I was like, wow, that was good. I'm not claiming that, but yes.

I love that. I love the Thanksgiving. You know, Trixie is probably like so into me. She's like your favorite right now, right? Because you bring her up all the time. I mean, I've always loved Trixie since like she was on Drag Race. Oh, she was on Drag Race? Yeah.

Wait, I thought she was just like her own thing. Like I thought she was like RuPaul. Like she would never be on Drag Race because she's like so big. She was on Drag Race 7 and then she won All Stars 3. Maybe I am kind of a Trixie Stier. Yeah, I don't know. You bring her up a lot. We also have another co-host, but not really.

Well, he's like a, they always want him as a guest. But I'm like, he's here every week. He's a guest every week. We have my husband, Moses, who's our tech. Hello. I don't know if you're a co-host, but you chime in here and there. You're a co-host. I'm more of a, I'm a fact checker. that's true that's true yeah yeah every time we'll sit there like talk about

something factual and then we look over to most yeah yeah most like does he know he knows most things he really does about like smart things yeah yeah we were just talking about their setup for next year so soon i'll have like a little desk here i'll have my computer yeah so we're gonna be like we'll be like jo we'll be like Joe Rogan. I'll be Jamie. Like wherever, you know, that reference.

Neither do I. We love a straight man reference. He's like, I'm the Jamie. I'm like, I don't know what that means. Straight man news over here. Okay.

And you're matching. You guys are matching today. Well, I saw him come in. I was like, what am I wearing today? I didn't know what. And then I was like,

Oh yeah. Fall vibes. I love that. You're a style icon. So I was matching Oscar today. I love it. I live for it. I love when people can like admit that they've matched someone. You know what and i was like oh yeah fall vibes i love it i love when people can like admit that they've matched someone you know what i mean because i always match people but people like to be like oh you were i didn't even know you know like he could have just said that like oh my god what a coincidence i think it's more fun to admit it yeah and like oh i wanted to

match you like yeah with brooke i was like i literally my friend brooke i know my friend brooke too which we got those sweat Well, technically we haven't gotten them physically yet, but we are getting them. Someone tracked them down. People went that night to the store to get them. And I was like, wow, they sold out. Like they literally sold out because someone else went and they're like, they're all gone. And I'm like, I think we have two. I have one secured. I'm waiting for one person to send another one. I'm like, hopefully they sent it because I just sent money. And I'm like, hopefully these people sent it. They did show the receipt and the sweatshirt, but I'm like, it takes time, I guess.

So we'll see. But your name was pretty crazy. You posted your story. Brooke was on TikTok Live wearing the pink San Diego sweatshirt. You posted the screenshot on TikTok Live. As it was happening. And Brooke saw the Instagram story within like an hour. And it was great. I was loving it.

Because we were worried. We're like, ooh, what does she think? Is it weird? Is it whatever? And she was like living. And she was like, oh my god, I can't wait to see it. She even offered her own sweatshirt. She goes, if you need mine or a blue one she had

and I was like well maybe but then we found it we might have to take her up on that yeah just wear hers I love it I love it

because she she followed me back on Instagram and I literally now I know exactly how you feel because I saw that and I was like oh my god I'm cool

there's such a great feeling about someone following you back and then she instantly DM'd me she was like I'm your biggest fan and I was like no way no way

you didn't tell me that I screenshot well not a bad way. I'm your biggest fan and I was like. No way. No way. You didn't tell me that. I screenshot. Well, not a bad way, but I screenshot it to show you. I was like, look. I was wondering, can they see the screenshot? I mean, not that it matters, but I would be weird to someone. I don't think they can on Instagram. I don't think so either. I'd be screenshotting all DMs, but not for like receipts, like freaking David with the Jeff incident being like, oh, on this

day. For exciting reasons. Yeah, no. I should maybe, I guess, but I just, I like to screenshot to show people like, look who just DM'd me or something. But I guess it could be weird. I don't know. I was so excited to show. It's like, it's not like it's anything personal. But I guess it was like, she's so excited for us to match her. So we'll have to plan the birthday soon. We have the FNAF.

My FNAF cosplay was sold out. And I got the jacket theory wear if you're out there. The Chica cosplay, the reason I have to get that one is because it's pink. All the other Chica cosplays are like yellow. I mean, it's not that hard to get. It's like a pink cheerleading skirt and like a Let's Party shirt. So it'd be like easy to get. But anyways, theory wear if you're out there. I'm looking for a 2X. No one hit me up on that. I thought, for sure, they'll like hit me up. No one has it. I was like, I'll pay double. I have a 2X on today

from Fashion Nova. So not sponsored. This is also 2X, so. But it's oversized and cute. I love this whole vibe today. Harvest. I'm like, what's like a politically correct way to do Thanksgiving cosplay? So this is what we ended up with. Is it what it harvest? I think, it's a tumble, I think, right?

It's a what? A tumble. What's a tumble? Autumn. It sounds like thumbnail. Oh, like autumn. Autumnal? Autonominal.

I don't know. He was trying to figure out what he said. Autumnal. You got it. Is that really a word? Are you making up? Yeah, I swear to God. I swear to God.

Autonomous? Autonomous. What's that? No, that's its own word. Oh, I did not know. That was not a great. It sounds like a thumbnail or a thumbnail. A thumbnail?

A thumbnail. Yeah. Okay. This is why we're on the education genre. Yes. A thumbnail. I didn't get the harvest memo. I guess I should have.

But we do have a little squish holding a turkey and a pumpkin on its head. Saw it at Barnes and Noble for 30 bucks and I rationalized it by saying, let's use it for the podcast because, I don't know, Malibu's not really into squishies that much. So I guess it's for me. It's not really into squishies that much, so I guess it's for me. It's only a little turkey. It's so cute. Are you cooking a turkey?

No, I'm not a cook at all. At all. At all. At all. Wow. But I'll be eating a lot for sure. Who cooks it? Whole Foods, actually, is cooking our turkey.

No. Yeah. Wait, what? They sell them made? Yeah. You can order Thanksgiving food from Whole Foods. And that's what you guys do? Yeah, because no one in my family likes to cook.

What? Yeah. Did you not have – no one cooked growing up? My grandma would be the cook growing up. A turkey is very, very easy to cook. It literally is like butter, some herbs, and stick it in. I mean, if I can cook it, literally I cook it. It takes so long to cook, though.

Doesn't it take like hours? Oh, my God. I mean, it's not crazy. You just stick it in and forget it. There's not much to cook though doesn't it take like hours oh my god crazy you just stick it in and forget it you're not doing anything for four hours yeah you just literally sit around it is kind of fun when you stick like the thermometer in and stuff it kind of feels sciencey like you're like i don't think we do that do we it feels complicated it feels it feels complicated but so not it's very big in size so it feels overwhelming i know the feeling yeah i hate pulling this stuff out yeah i don't know how to do that see my priority for thanksgiving is like

i'm always thinking about black friday like i'm at thanksgiving dinner but like i'm all i have all i pull all the freaking ads and i'm going through on the table i'm like what's the plan for black friday i love black friday i love it? That was back in the day, like a couple years ago. So where are you pulling now? So now BlackFriday.com, not sponsored. It tells you all the deals? They get all the Black Friday ads leaked, so they have them on the website for like weeks.

And then you can start mapping it out, like where are we going? What are we hitting up first? It's like, it's serious. Physically you go to all these stores? I need to be there. I really do. Really? It doesn't give me to all these stores. I need to be there. I really do. I'm not, like, an all... It doesn't give me the same rush. Like, I need to be there. Oh, no.

Oh, I love... I hate, like, lines and crowds. For some reason, Black Friday, I'm like, I need to be there. Like, I want to, like, fight and scramble. Oh, my God. Do you think it's still crowded? Because we go to malls and they're dead. Like, every time we go to a mall, it's dead.

I think it depends. Like, if you go, like, first thing, there's, like, that rush. But then, stores are open for so long that, like, by the afternoon people like me have already like gone through and left so it's yeah we should go tomorrow before black friday because we have to get something at bath and body works i feel like we need to go before like no they're gonna miss although now all these stores start their sales like two weeks in advance of black friday i'm like this is not what it's about okay yes we were at target we saw christmas trees for 70 they were on sale for Black Friday for 50% off. We got four trees for like $150. Oh my god. All four trees

were $150. Pre-lit, ready to go because we're doing like this little tree. I was shocked. I was like, I must go back immediately because we didn't have enough room in the car. I'm like, you need to go back right now and go get those trees because that was the best deal. Like $35 for these big trees with lights. It almost was like a mistake.

It was at Target. Target had all the Black Friday sales already. And the thing with Christmas decorations, like, if you have not already got your Christmas decorations by now, like, you're late. Like, you cannot go on December 1st and you're going to go get a Christmas tree. No. You're not going to find anything. No.

You can't even find an ornament. Home Depot, like, nothing is there December 1st. Like, it's crazy. No, yeah, you have to get them before. You got to be planning July. You got to be planning Christmas decorations. I mean, I love people who do that. That is everything. No, yeah, you have to get them before. You gotta be planning July. You gotta be planning Christmas decorations. I love people who do that. That is everything. I wish I could be like that. I went to Rose

and Zanna's Pansy's house on Friday. We were baking cookies. Yeah, she had the full trees up. She was like, oh, we do it in July. She does a lot of brand deals. I guess the brands need the assets by September. Oh my god. She does Christmas in July and leaves the trees up and stuff. It was beautiful. Her house is so cookie cutter. Perfect. It smells like pine. I'm like,

they weren't real trees. And I'm like, it smells like real trees. And she has like sprays that smell like real trees. We made these cookies. It comes on her 12th cookies of Christmas or whatever. And it took us like, it's literally like an eight hour cookie process. It's so long and so intricate, but man, she's like the perfect anyways. We love Ro. But yeah, it was, it was wild. People just decorate early here. We decorated. We had to like get ours out by like November 1st. Cause like our whole, we can't see, you don't get to see them.

Our palm trees are lit up. Like everything's like lit up. It's really pretty. But upstairs we're going to decorate this week. Cause we have to do our Christmas cards and Christmas cards at shoot in November. Because you have to get them printed and you have to send them out. Maybe that's what we could do on the Patreon. I could give Christmas cards this year.

Cause we already print. Well, you know what? We only print like 20. We don't have that many people. But yeah, we can do on the Patreon. I could give Christmas cards this year. Because we already print. Well, you know what? We only print like 20. We don't have that many people. But yeah, we're starting Patreon in December. Or maybe next week we're starting it. When is December? I don't even know.

Is it next week? It's next Friday. A week from Friday. So it's. I know. I scheduled our Christmas card shoot. I know. Today it's airing November 21st.

November 21st. In nine days. In nine days. It is. Yeah, it's Christmas. So anyways, we're doing Patreon. I'm excited for our Patreon. I'm excited that you're excited because I know you're so busy.

So I was so stoked when you're like, let's do more. And I was like, that's what I've been wanting to do. I don't know what it is. Something shifted because last week I was like so upbeat, so positive. I was like, we got to keep the good vibes rolling. I know. I'm like, what else can we be doing? Are you still there?

Yeah, I'm still there. I think I'm shifting now. Every time I want to dip, I'm like, no, no. And I bring it back up. So I'm trying to stay at this. You have to keep up that way. No, I know because you were in such good spirits last time. And then the next day you're like, I'm in the hospital.

And I was like, oh my god. You're like, I have this. I have my chest. I almost had a heart attack. But I're like, I'm in the hospital. And I was like, oh my God. You're like, I have this, like my chest, I almost had a heart attack, but I'm going to get your episode up at 11. I was like, oh my God, are you okay? I was still positive. Yeah, I thought I was dying. I thought I was having a heart attack of some kind.

But it turns out I just, this is so bro code and I hate saying it. I guess I just went too hard at the gym because my chest was just inflamed. That's wild. Yeah. But it felt what, like your heart was racing it was a sharp pain that was going down it was in my chest and went down my arm so that's why i thought it was like

yeah that's like you know i always thought that too your arm go i had my arm go numb one time i'm like i'm thinking i've heard of that but it's so scary i think what attitude i just had like i went to the doctor like a couple days before and you know they give you like your weight this and they said i was i have adderall and i'm on too much caffeine. So my poor Dr. Jen was a little concerned. So I also had that in the back of my mind too. I was like, oh my God, Adderall caffeine. It's all finally catching up to me. What caffeine do you drink? I take caffeine

pills because I don't like coffee. Oh my God, you're also taking that with Adderall? No, because it's like upper and then upper, upper. Wait, why do you take caffeine pills? A little pizzazz. Let's not do caffeine. Let's bring it down a little bit. Oh, my God. I know.

I've cut myself off. Now that you're in your 30s, you've got to really start examining your lifestyle is what I've learned. So we're working. Caffeine is actually like so bad for you. Like it is like actually like – that's why you get like headaches when you don't have caffeine. Yeah.

I don't do caffeine at all. I've had headaches all week. Yeah. I stopped. I was – last year after I was pregnant, I kind of went on a caffeine kick because like this time of year, they have Sprite cranberry and it's like my favorite thing in the whole world. And caffeine free is just weird. Like I don't like caffeine free either. So it's just, I just don't do sodas in general and I feel so much better when I don't do it. I love sodas,

but like I just, I can't do it. Coffee. Oh no. Cause I get so high and then I crash too. And to me that's just like a drug and it's just like something I don't want to do. Caffeine's scary. Right now this is all just vibes and a little bit of Adderall. So yeah. Does Adderall make you energetic? Honestly, it just makes me normal. It just feels normal. I never took it. I know people like took it also for like appetite suppressants. I know people. Yeah. That reminds me. I felt like you last night because I had pasta for dinner and I was like, oh, this is so Trish coded. Pasta Sunday. It's very Jersey. Wait, do you watch Jersey Shore? Did we talk about this? No, I don't watch Jersey Shore. Oh, okay. Someone else told me they love Jersey Shore.

But that's very like Italian to have like pasta on like Sunday nights. I'm not Italian, but I heard that's what they do. They have like Sunday family dinners. But you have that one shirt that says Italians do it better. Well, that was a cosplay. That was my Madonna. Okay. I was like, that's a cosplay.

That's so funny though. Like, wait, she's everything. That photo's in my meme folder. I have so many photos of you in my meme folder. Wait, was that even a meme or you just made it a fun? No, it's used on Twitter. Gay Twitter. Yeah, shout out. There's so many gay Twitter influencers.

Shout out Mazzy Popstar and Brooklyn. Mazzy Popstar? Who's that? That sounds like someone I should know. Are they a pop star? Are they a they? Their icon is Kourtney Kardashian in the Addison Raison ray he's all that which one where she's like where she's on the phone and she's like jessica what's that her name in it yeah um but yeah they always

use photos of you and i every time i see them i see them so my meme folder is like all is all that's so funny i love that i want to see your computer that reminds me i told everyone that i would ask you about this oh no have you seen you seen the TikTok trend where people pretend that they're related to you? Yes. I'm so over it. I see it all the time. That's on my For You page. Everyone keeps begging me to ask you about this.

I don't get it. I don't get it. Like, oh, I met this person on Ancestry. Oh, they're FaceTiming me. They're crying. But, like, I don't get it. Like, what? Like, what?

It is so funny. It's so weird. What's the meme? I'm so not in on this joke. With those pictures. And then they're like, oh, she just asked me for some money. And the parents, the replies are so like, whatever you do, do not send her money. They're so concerned.

What? Block this person. I'm so confused by them. And I see them all the time. I'm like, wait, what? I guess it's just what the parents don't know. It's kind of like the AI. I think it's just because there's so many pictures of you in so many different moods.

So they can post it as if they're like, oh, look at this person. She sent me a picture. Oh, she's now sad. Oh, she's really upset. Oh, she's happy. But how are they FaceTiming? How are they FaceTiming? You know what I mean?

Like their little picture is with my picture. I'm sure there's a filter. Is it a filter? Or are they Photoshopped? Because I've never Photoshopped. How are people so good at Photoshopping? Is that what they're doing? Because it does look real.

Stop it. Because I don't want people to think that when they see me, like, oh my God, that's scammer. And I'm sure that's what people are saying. This is a trend I don't support. I won't support. Stop it. It kills me. I hate it.

Have you done it? Well, in this case, he actually knows you. So that would be problematic. We could be on FaceTime. I never FaceTime, by the way. Scammer if it's FaceTime. I hate FaceTime. That's funny.

Thank God you don't FaceTime me. There are so many people. Oh, I hate FaceTime too. I have a couple of friends that try to FaceTime me. I never, ever answer. I'm like, why? I wait for it to go away. I just sit there and stare at it every time I get a question.

I'll ignore it. Oh, you just stare at it? I just wait for it to stop because I kind of freeze. I'm like, why is someone FaceTiming me? And then I get kind of like paranoid. I'm like, why are someone FaceTiming me? And then I get kind of like paranoid. I'm like, why are they FaceTiming me? Yeah. I never do.

Don't call me ever. No, I'm not calling. I don't like it. It's so weird when people call me. And like sometimes I'll answer because I think it's serious, like if no one ever calls me. And it's literally that I'm just trying to like schedule. Like, oh, you know, I'm trying to schedule something different. I was like, just text me.

Like, what? I don't get it. I don't get it at all. Okay, so Thanksgiving's coming up. What are you thankful for? I like to do gratitude every morning. Like, I do gratitude every morning because I feel like your day can only go up. And I also know the law of the universe, the secret of the universe, the law of attraction is like, if you're thankful for things, the universe will give you like more things to be thankful for.

So even if you're just thankful for like breathing and like watching gestures right now, like those are two things to be thankful for. The universe is going to like bless you with more things to be thankful for. Like just more blessings will come. Otherwise, if you complain about stuff, the universe is going to be more things to complain about. You know what I mean? That's what I've learned. So every morning I always do gratitude. I do like, at least like I always have people do like at least five things. Even if you have two things, that's fine. But like at least five. So what are five things you're grateful for? Okay. Yeah. This is so cliche, but just like health, like even if it's like to have a body, it's not my ideal body per se,

but at least it's like a body and it's like everything's working as it should. Yeah. And to have a little scare, it just made me extra thankful for that. So that's for sure. Love it. That should be everyone. If you don't have one, like that should be your thing right now. Yeah.

Cause I feel like, I mean, even us, like we can get hard, like on our bodies and stuff too, but really the fact that we're just kicking, that is a victory in and of itself. I think that all the time. I'm like, oh my God, like we're here. We're healthy. Don't be hard on yourself're happy yeah i can breathe for the most part sometimes i can't but that's a whole other thing that's a good one okay yeah definitely this for sure because i mean i told you too like the timing of working with you is like so crazy because everything kind of aligned like kind of lost like my second job and i have to like work more just like because i have so many people to support and i almost like i was interviewing

at target i was like oh my god i guess i'll just have to go back work retail on the side and i had like an interview with schedule the target like that ass yes oh my gosh and then you had like reached out like that same week so isn't that crazy oh my god that's actually so great that's how i think things are like meant to be in aligned. Because we have talked about so many times working. And like, I know for me, like you were always my first choice, but I was like, oh my gosh, I knew you were busy. I knew you worked full time. I knew you worked for other people.

So I was just like, I don't know if it's going to work. And I didn't really have, like, I kind of had a second choice, but not really. It just like wouldn't have worked. So even now, I mean, I always tell you, you're like irreplaceable. Like, I don't know what I would do. That's why I'm so like, okay, what do you think? What do you think? Because there's just like, I don't know what I would do without you.

Like you just edit so quickly, you do everything. I mean, you're just so great. And also we just like flow andable like I don't know what I would do that's why I'm so like okay what do you think what do you think because there's just like I don't know what I would do without you like you just edit so quickly you do everything I mean you're just so great and also we just like flow and people like you but oh that's amazing oh I love that I know and I've like every time we talked about it too we're like oh yeah like we knew it would work but it's just like kind of figuring out like the when situation you know and like yeah I don't know this with this one it's just like it all kind of like fell into place it's so weird it's crazy it is crazy I was thinking about that I'm like how that just like like you said just literally fell into place and like almost immediately it was just like 400 000 views in our first one which is like insane because my

main channel was like 10 000 views so i was like that's bizarre i'm so i'm so confused by it still i don't know i honestly i don't know maybe it's like because that's like editing and like there's a set and now it looks like legit i don't know i've been doing this in my car for like the past two years and no one cared so um i guess it's the magic of it all yeah and also kind of similar to this everyone who's like kind of like following me afterwards because i like my goal is never to like be an influence whatever i think it's like silly and i like to entertain myself with like work stuff but all of a sudden like people are following and then the people will message me like inside jokes and like tag me and stuff and it's so cute like oh my gosh it feels like such a like community,

which is wild. Cause to me, I feel like you might be similar. Like I always kind of felt like underdoggy, like never really fitting in or whatever. And the fact that like people are like, like what we do, like want to like follow along and be in on it.

Yeah. It's so fun. It is crazy. I know I'm the same way. I'm going to tell me, Oh my God, I wait. People are like liking something we're doing.

It's so cool. Like it feels like, and we're like the core of it. You know what I mean? people are like liking something we're doing it's so cool like it feels like and we're like the core of it you know what I mean we're like the group we're like the it girls yeah of our

just trash it's so fun I was like wow yeah I totally agree with you on that too okay so two more things to be grateful for I think for my boyfriend too

I never thought I'd be like in a relationship especially relationship like we're going on four years soon so that's crazy. Cause I'd like, again, similar to you, like you kind of are, you go through like a lot of

situationships for a really long time that you kind of just think that that's like all you're going to like be stuck with forever. And you don't really see yourself like settling down or like living with someone. And then it happened for both of us at the same time, which is crazy. Cause how many days was it before quarantine? You met him, right? I met him. It's right when it started is when we started talking. It was like March 20-something. That's crazy. So it was like, right, yeah, that's us too. We're like

March 14th, so we're like a week away. Yeah, like literally that same, isn't that wild? Yeah. It is crazy. It's such a good way to like count how many years you've been together because it's 2020. So it's like, yeah, next year, four years. Yeah, that's crazy at the same time too. Yeah. I'm thankful for my other job too. I'm thankful to work at ET.

Yes. I kind of like thinking about it like I interned there when I was in 2012 when I was in college and that was like my dream when I was in college was to work there and I achieved it and sometimes I have to remind myself that. Yeah. And you're like still working. You have like seniority. Yeah.

They respect you. They're like flexible with you. Like they even like let you change your like schedule and stuff around like which is like really nice yeah and everyone there is amazing and it's like

it is it's just a grind sometimes as any job is like even though it's like kind of an unserious job in the scope of the world right right right

but as far as jobs go it's definitely like a more fun one to have I love it ET is big I mean it's a huge one and it's cool it's cool when people

like know that too that you know that like you're like oh I work for ET I forgot to tell you ET and J that, like, you're like, oh, I work for E.T. I forgot to tell you. E.T. and J.T. Oh, my God. You're so, what?

Tell me. I just remembered. I love it. I went in last Thursday. I was in the office. And there was, like, a college field trip. And I was, like, busted down. Because when you start work at 5 o'clock in the morning, like, when you get ready, it's

like, it's in God's hands if you look cute or not. I looked rough. And there was, like, a college field trip. And I was, like, walking. And, of course, I was wearing freaking Taylor Swift merch. Like, really. Oh, my God. At look cute or not. I looked rough. And there was like a college field trip. And I was like walking. And of course, I was wearing freaking Taylor Swift merch. Like really just like. Oh my God, at the office? Yeah.

I love that. Just casually walking and looking busted. And these college kids go, oh my God, oh my God, is that Oscar? And I didn't hear him. And I go to sit down. And then I'm like, Oscar, is that Oscar? And then the girl. Whispering?

Yes. I love it. I love when they whisper. And you the girl. Whispering? Yes. I love it. I love when they whisper and you hear them. And then the girl that was like escorting them and giving them the tour was like, Oscar, they watched the podcast. And I was like, I was glad. I didn't know what to say.

What did you do? I was just like, thank you so much. That's so sweet. I was like, yeah, because I did not expect. Well, you were wearing a Taylor Swift shirt, so they probably thought like. It was a giveaway. Yeah. Because the first thing they saw was, oh, I like your sweater. I was like, oh, thank you. Oh, it was a sweater. Yeah. What was the Taylor Swift? so they probably thought like it was a giveaway because the first thing they saw was oh I like your sweater I was like oh thank you oh it was a sweater

yeah what was the Taylor Swift was it Gianna's yeah it's on the Ares tour oh my god that's so I can imagine seeing you wearing a Taylor Swift sweater it's just like camp yeah they're like okay that's Oscar it's like seeing you in a fast food uniform yeah for sure

for sure like there's trash on the big table oh my god that's so cool. Wait, what were they doing a tour? It was, yeah. Like, it was a group of college kids

that like want to work in a broadcast room. Oh, and they knew? I love, I love when like, college people know. I always get like really,

no offense, I love the young kids too, but I always get like really young, but like college people, you wouldn't think watch our show, but shout out college kids. I know. I was glad.

Okay, I love. That's so exciting. Oh my God, well, happy Thanksgiving. A lot to be thankful for. I love that. I have a lot to glad. Okay, I love. That's so exciting. Oh, my God. Well, happy Thanksgiving. A lot to be thankful for. I love that.

I have a lot to be thankful for this year, too. And one being this podcast. Oh, my God. I love this podcast. Yes, audience. Audience, thank you. This is my fact check. Yes.

No, I'm super thankful for this podcast. Like, it's so bizarre to me. I'm like always every – I think about it daily actually that it does so well. I'm so confused, perplexed and – but also like sometimes I'm like, yeah, this makes sense. In my head I'm like, oh, this will be a TV show next year. You know what I mean? So in like one head I'm like, wow, it's like so weird. People like it.

But on the other hand I'm like, oh, we'll definitely be at like the Sony lot next year. You know what I mean? So I see both. But it's bizarre. It's so cool. I love it. It feels like – it's just like this resurgence and it feels so good to be like creative again. And I just, I'm so, I'm so happy for it. Obviously I'm thankful for you. You're number two. Well, I'm not going to do this in any specific order

because I'm going to say Malibu and Moses and then I'm going to be like, what? I'm so thankful for you because literally without you, this would be nothing. You just elevated it in so many ways. And I just love you. I've always have. I'm so excited we work together because I seriously feel like we try to work together so long. Yeah, it's just when it's right, right, the flow, the energy, all that. Third, I'm thankful for Moses and Malibu, which they're really the first.

I should have probably put them first, but they're always my first in my gratitude journal. They're kind of like everything. Not only are you a producer on Just Trish, but you're also an amazing husband and also an amazing chef lately. You've been cooking it. My goal is for one day to get a private chef, which they're not that expensive, but it's just like, you know, budget. You know what I mean? We'll see. If we sell the show, if we're like on

TV or we sell it to Spotify for a hundred million or something that we could get a private chef. I should get you a private chef since you don't cook. That's what, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I would love to just be like, I would love some chicken nachos after this. You know what I mean? Because we always go to the same place. We go to a place after this, which I love, but I'm like, God, I really wish I could just whip up a steak and mashed potatoes. You know what I mean? So, yes. Thankful for Moses.

And of course, Malibu, because she's a star. Which, by the way, you're so freaking good with Malibu. You can't do the picture. Oh my God. She literally shocked. She literally reached out for you to hold her. And then she just like started like laying down on you. And her face was just. Yeah.

She has, she's very interesting. She has a very different reaction to each different person. Very different. She never did what she did with you. Like she just held her and she put her head on his shoulder and just. Oh my God. It was just. She never does that with anyone.

Are you like a kid magnet like she was just pointing yeah directions for me to walk i'm like okay girl let's go it was so crazy i love her first time i mean i guess he was like met briefly but it was like the first time that like that happened i was like oh my god she like loves you it's so weird i think she watches the podcast yeah she listens to your voice she hears it and she's also kind of like a toddler even though she's only 14 months i mean she's really your voice she hears it and she's also kind of like a toddler even though she's only 14 months i mean she's really long so she kind of just like holds herself she's very like tall and it was so cute and i was like oh my god and then you're like now i want a

baby which i think you totally should yes they're just baby fever a hundred percent like especially like with the holidays like that's like the best part no and then they get to open presents and get so excited yeah so we have just trish i have just Trish. I'm thankful for Oscar. I'm thankful for Moses. Thankful for Malibu. And I'm also thankful because I feel like you'll be like another great uncle to our second baby. I'm pregnant. Is this real?

Yes. Let me fact check. Yes. Yeah. Do May 2024. We are pregnant. Yay. I'm crying. Are you serious?

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Okay. Production. Oh, my God. I'm so happy for you guys. Thanks. There's our little baby. Oh, my God. We're 13 weeks today.

Fully gagged me. Are you for we're 13 weeks today fully gagged me are you for real yeah fully gagged me yeah oh my god and then when I saw you with Mel

I was like oh my god you're gonna be so cute with our little baby Uncle Oscar the first one to know oh my god you're the first one we told

so yay congratulations thanks I'm like fully gagged wow yeah

me too oh my god that's incredible. It's been so weird to like keep it a secret. Because like last time we announced so early. And I don't know. This time I just, I don't know. When did you find out? October 3rd, which is Mean Girls Day.

Oh my God, of course. Yeah, when I was filming it, I was like, you guys, today's October 3rd. And I was like, oh, Mean Girls. But also, yeah, we found out. It's so weird. Oh my God. Yeah, it's been, it's crazy. I didn't know.

We didn't know we were pregnant. You know, when I was like coughing a lot, I went to get an x-ray and you're not supposed to get x-rays when you're pregnant. So they gave me a pregnancy test there and it was so weird. They're like, it's negative. And I'm like, okay, which makes sense because it's been negative. We've been trying for so long. And I was like, okay, it's negative.

They did the x-ray. And then like literally two weeks later, I was like pregnant. I was like, whoa, but I wasn't pregnant at the time. So she did it and it said negative. So we thought we're not pregnant that month, you know? So by the time she checked again, because you were already like four weeks into like, we found out so late. I was like five weeks.

Yeah. I was like six or five. Yeah. Five or six. Yeah. She was just leaving the house and on the way out, she was like, let me check. Oh my God. I was shocked.

No, we've been all negative, negative, negative. And then we weren't really trying to remember because I was like kind of sick. I was like kind of like coughing all the time and we were just busy and stuff. So it just didn't, I don't know. But we don't know. We'll know the gender. We go to Wednesday to find out the gender. Oh my God.

No gender reveals. Yeah, no gender reveals. But you know what? We will. Oh my God. How did you do that? Where did this came from? I didn't even know that did

you see the balloons i saw that i didn't even think anything other because our set's always a little crazy yeah that's true that's how did you release it what did you do we got pyrotechnics here that was wild oh my god that was just crazy so yeah that is so exciting thank you what a year i what a year it's wild like we did not did not think, I did not think I was going to get pregnant. I don't know. It's just always really hard for us to get pregnant. And we like try, try, try like every single day. And it's like doesn't happen.

And then I know it's like the worst thing to hear when you're trying to get pregnant. But they say like when you stop trying. And it was like not by choice we stopped trying. But it was like. Well, I mean. I got sick. My prediction was that it's going to happen in Vegas because we're trying to bring Elvis. Oh, yeah.

Did you see behind Moses? Last week was Elvis. I've been having that Easter egg there for a little while. Elvis has been there. That's our name. That is our name. Whether it's a boy or a girl, it's Elvis. So you know it's Elvis. Yeah, the little thing.

Yeah. And then, yeah. Because with Malibu, it was like, you know, that whole pregnancy was ASMR. Yeah. It was a very specific time. And for this baby, I'm excited because it's going to be the just rich baby there's so much there's but it's so much love and so much um you know positivity coming from people towards us and towards well i'm just gonna get bigger in this

chair so watch it shrink it's gonna be ginormous by the end of it so they call people to you know follow the pregnancy with us that's so exciting yeah it's crazy because it's like we found out so late and so it's like may already is like the baby's coming in may i'm like oh my god that's like literally like six months away so um so the talk show could still happen in the fall i'll have my baby in may we can take june july what about wait yeah oh oh well they just announced that they're filming in february so i guess white lotus if you need a five month six month pregnant person by then, I'll come to Thailand.

I told you I might have the baby in Thailand. I think I said that in a previous episode. I was like, I guess we'll just stay over there and have the baby. So I know I had a little panic attack. Malibu was in the Maldives, you know. That's true. She was. We can have the baby in Thailand.

They need to go somewhere. I saw, I saw that they're starting to film in February and I was like, oh man, I knew that was going to happen. As soon as I got pregnant, they're starting to film in February. And I was like, oh, man. I knew that was going to happen. As soon as I got pregnant, they were starting to cast. But we'll go over there. Like, it's fine. If you need a pregnant person, I'll be visibly pregnant. I'm already visibly pregnant.

I'm like four months. But because last time my organs didn't go down, like, it's still, it feels like I'm like nine months pregnant right now. So it's there. And yeah, I've been very hungry this pregnancy. Also, yeah, the baby's like more active. Like you said, the first pregnancy was ASMR. So I was very chill.

And Malibu was just in one position with like her leg over her head the entire time. Now we go for ultrasound and the baby's like jumping all the time. Like it's so crazy. It's so weird. So it's a very different – I feel it might – like it feels so different. So I'm thinking boy. But then I'm like it's probably going to be a girl because, I don't know, we're just like girl vibes over here. That's true.

And like I like to have – I have a sister and a brother and I love my brother. But like I was closer with my sister. So I feel like sisters are kind of the vibe. But then you think of like we're done after this, by the way, after two. So one and like two and that's it. So then you think, oh, boy, girl, it would be cute. But definitely not all boys like you. Oh, my God.

I know. I mean you is great. But I mean like fives. Five boys. Oh, my God. I think we talked about that before where I was just like no, thank you. So no offense. I mean honestly like if you have all boys, that's a blessing too.

Everything is a gift. Okay, of course. And we would like boys. If you have all boys, that's a blessing too. Everything's a gift. Okay, of course. And we would like boys. If you have five boys, that's amazing. We might just have girls. But we love a girl too. We'd love both. That's why I said Elvis for both.

I think girls is kind of a vibe. Like we're just an all-girl fam. But I think also, I don't know. Part of me, I mean, Malibu looks just like Moses, but Malibu was such a cute, or Moses was just such a cute boy. Like he's such a cute teenager. We need to find teenage, Allison, do teenage pics of Moses to insert.

He is, like, so handsome. Like, Moses is very handsome now. But as a young boy – like, a man, I'm like, he looks like a Backstreet Boy or something. And it's kind of shocking. I don't know. It's just – I guess because I met you with the long hair and you had hippie vibes. So seeing you as, like, preppy Abercrombie, I was kind of like, oh, this is, like, okay. So then I'm like, oh, it would be cute to have, like, a – I don't know.

Maybe that's, like, weird. Someone's going to be like, oh, Trish, you should have – but, like to have a boy that looks like, he looks like, probably ends up looking like me. And I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry that you're short and like, no harm being short and stubby, but Matt was very long and tall. Anyways, we'll be happy with any baby we have. So, yeah. So there's that. Yeah, we just want it to be healthy and that's all.

Healthy baby. As long as it's healthy. And there's, heartbeat's been good. And now we'll be such a great older sister. So it's like whatever, you know, whatever it is, it's. it's oh she already is like feeding like she has a little baby she feeds and it's yeah we're getting her ready we don't have to be in shock yeah she came to one of our appointments with us she's like looking at the baby and yeah yeah we're pregnant that is so exciting yeah it's so weird because we've been keeping it safe for so long and And I never feel pregnant.

Like, I don't feel pregnant. I guess one of the symptoms is being cold. I was really cold for a while. Oh, yeah. Which I didn't really know. Yeah, that's why she was cold. Oh, my God. So first pregnancy, too, she was really cold.

Yeah, it's so weird. Because basically your blood flow goes in there. You know, the placenta has been, like, all that. There's so much water going. So your blood flow is much lower in your body. So you get cold. Oh, my God. That's why you were cold and everything. And tired. Oh lower in your body. So you get cold. Oh my God. That's why you were cold and everything.

And tired. Oh, tired too. And I've been hungry this time. Usually the first one I wasn't like not hungry. Like I did, I was hungry. I just didn't eat a lot. This one I eat like a ton. So I don't know.

I just feel it's different, but who knows? Different pregnancy. I hope it's as easy as last time. Last time I was like such a breeze. I love being pregnant. It was like the happiest ever. I just loved it. I can be pregnant all day long.

It's like the birthing part's hard. But yeah. But the podcast will go on. We're going to pre-record interviews. We're not going to miss a beat, okay? We will be here even if it's for an hour. We're going to do the podcast because I worked giving birth. I was like, film this. Like we need to – you know, I work.

I worked the day – I worked up until giving birth the day before and then like literally right after. So I'm a worker. We're going to continue this. If you want to have the talk show, we're for fall 2024 and white lotus we're happy to go over there in february 2024 because you know i'll be i'll be pregnant we'll just have the baby over there i think thailand's beautiful anyway they have to write the part for you so they'll just write it as a pregnant person in there i mean this whole season's about death so maybe not that'd be kind of morbid although yeah life yeah. Life and death. That's true. We could have a little rebirth

thing. Reincarnation. That would be cool. Anyways, I would love to be on White Lotus 3, but I also would rather be pregnant, so it's fine. I knew that was gonna happen, though. I've been saying this. I'm like, I've been holding off getting pregnant in case White Lotus 3, then the after strike happened. I was like, oh, no, now we're delaying this. And then I thought, well, maybe they'll film at the

end of 2024 and we can go over as a family, but it didn't work out. I also got this for you for our little snack time can i throw it can you catch it are you gonna catch i'm a bad thrower wow good job i got two so oh my god yes not sponsored by m&ms but you know because when we go on our bathroom breaks i sneak these in i always i'm like let me just do it and then you're like i'll have some i'm like okay so we have a little bag you can just have them on standby. This is so sweet. Oh my God. I'm so emotional today. Oh my God.

Me too. It's a little birthday or baby celebration. I love this. Balloons. Oh my God. That just freaked me out. I was like, where'd those go? Oh my God. And Robert Pattinson's having his baby, I think, at the same time. Oh my God. Wow. Are they like siblings? I think they're similarly along in Sookie Waterhouse. So the playmates. Oh really? Oh my God. First of Are they like siblings? I think they're similarly along in Sookie Waterhouse.

So the play dates. Oh really? Oh my god. First of all, we'd love. We'd love to have a play date. But they're like British, right? I think Sookie is from, I think she's American. I don't know where in America.

Well, they're probably like going to raise their babies in England or something. I don't think they could have play dates or something like that, which is iconic. I love being pregnant twins with people. Rihanna was pregnant the same time I was the first time. And I just love when there's like pregnancy people too. Because then you just feel like you're part of something and everything. So yeah, we love a little pregnant moment. You get the vibe.

She announced it wearing like a pink sparkly dress and she was performing at a music festival. I don't really know. I know the name, of course. But is she known for, is she on Vampires or something? She's an actress. She was in that show oh my god why am I forgetting it

it was the one with what was his granddaughter oh Daisy Jones yes yeah she was on that show and she's also like an indie singer

but everyone's saying Taylor Lautner stay away from this baby we don't need no imprinting oh my god how awful like you have that your whole life

you have like a character you play and then people just think you're that character although he kind of is that character because he's like flipping all the time and stuff. Self-loving, yeah.

Oh, man. They should have a baby, the Taylors, because if they have a baby at the same time, then they could be so cute. Oh, my God, yeah. You should name it. Honestly, for real, a baby name on our list was Renesmee. Like, I swear. On her list, you mean.

On her list. And when Malva was- There was no way into her list. When she was born, when Malva was born, she looked like Renesmee. Not the CGI baby, but the animatronic baby they had. She looked just like her. God, if Robert Pattinson named his daughter Renesmee or baby, that would be everything. Do you think he would?

Oh, my God. How iconic. I think Taylor is more likely to name it Nessie after it. You named my baby after the Loch Ness Monster? I could see him. That was a good delivery. Thank good delivery Nessie would be so cute too actually though I love that I love all names like I think they're so cute but

I've always manifested out Malibu and Elvis like it's always been the names I've said so that's it and if we have a third one we have literally no names for it so that can't happen I'm just like well then the third one is definitely Renesmee then the third one is definitely Renesmee three two two sounds like a lot I'm already scared you know you want to get pregnant then you do and then you're just like oh my But then the third one is definitely Renesmee. Then the third one is definitely Renesmee. I don't know. Three, two.

Two sounds like a lot. I'm already scared. You know you want to get pregnant and then you do and then you're just like, oh my gosh, this is going to be terrifying. I don't know how people do two kids. I don't know how people do five kids. It's amazing. People who have more than two kids, like how – because like there's only two parents.

So how do you have two kids? Like what's the third one doing? Like do you know what I mean? Like you can't watch all of them. It's impossible. For me, the age difference between my brothers, like, they were able to, like, watch me most because there's, like, an 8, 10, 12, like, 14-year difference between us, between me and them.

So they would babysit. Babysit. But, you know. Oh, my God. That's a lot of pressure, though, to give to your kid. Like, watch your other baby brother. You're all our babies. Oh, my God.

That's wild. But I was an easy kid because, you know, I think you're a similar way. We would just, like, watch TV and, like. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Snacks, TV, super easy. And you're the baby, that's wild. But I was an easy kid because, you know, I think you're a similar way. We would just like watch TV and like – Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Snacks, TV, super easy. And you're the baby, right? Yeah.

Yeah. I think Malibu is too young to watch her sibling. She's only going to be like a year and a half, two under two. Yeah, so there's that. That's so exciting. That's all that. I was hiding my little ultrasound here. It's sneaky.

Oh my God. Yeah, I was very excited. We've been hiding it. We've been giving house tours to all our guests and they've been just like the ultrasound's on the table, but I don't think no one's noticed yet. I guess you wouldn't if you're not trying to have babies. I guess no one would notice. Yeah.

And we have a young baby, so it's like they just assume it somehow relates to the one we already have. That's true. Yeah. It's like an old ultrasound or something like that. Are gender reveals banned? Because we were going to do a gender reveal. Is it banned?

I have no idea. Oh, okay. I don't know. We to do a gender reveal. Is it banned? I have no idea. Oh, okay. I don't know. We're doing a gender reveal. I'm so confused. Some people hate gender reveals, but I feel like they're kind of just part of like baby culture. Don't you think?

No, I think too. It's kind of like, okay, this is fun. As long as it's not like, there was one where they used all like pyrotechnics and then they started like a huge fire. So as long as you don't have any pyrotechnics. Those are wild. Yeah. Anything damaging to the environment.

Those are wild. You know, here's the thing. I go back and forth gender reveals because I do. I love the whole idea of like, there's no gender to the environment? Those are wild. You know, here's the thing. I go back and forth with gender reels because I do. I love the whole idea of, like, there's no gender for anyone, and I love that. I just think for, like, a baby, like, you've got to, like, have a direction. You know what I mean? You've got to start somewhere. Yeah.

Well, Elvis is a – it could be a masculine name, but we'd give it to a girl. You know what I mean? So, like, and as far as clothes go, we buy boy clothes from Albu all the time because they're, like, really cute. Like, we'll have, like, a dinosaur clothes. Like, they have really cute suspenders. Like, we put her in boy clothes too so it's not to me it's not like boy girl anything it's just like you kind of need like a I don't know like a direction and then they could change their direction I don't know you know what I mean

yeah and you know what the gender someone did tell us the pride no the trans flag is kind of like a gender real because at first I was like oh we shouldn't say gender reveal but like it's kind of gender reveal because it's like them revealing their new gender oh I love that yeah so I was like okay I was like at first I was like oh my god not gender reveal but you know because it's good it's good if you like you know know your gender but it's also okay to not know your gender so anyways yeah i feel like it's gonna change it too it's like a starting point then whatever the kid decides you know how are they intrusive identify but that's how i would think of it too like i would fully support my child like choosing whatever they want to be

but like you kind of have to start somewhere like you need like a foundation and then we can kind of go from there yeah then pick okay but i or not even pick but just like well you can whatever you are whatever you are be whoever you are but you know what's really cool is we had a barbie theme because a lot of people again came for me because it's like okay you gave her name malibu barbie it's hyper feminine and then the birthday party was barbie but we had more little boys at a party just because like our friends just have like boys we had like four four girls, four boys, I think. And the boys like loved Barbie. Like the parents would send us a thing like, oh, it's his first Barbie. Cause we had like party favors and they had their first Barbie. They were like playing with it. Another one had a Barbie watch and like,

oh, he's obsessed with his Barbie watch. So one, I love that the parents were like so cool to let their kid like play with Barbie. And two, I love that these little boys were like loving Barbie and not thinking like, ew, it's a girl thing or something like that. I also thought it was cool this morning. Malibu was in the glam and she, she loves these like beauty sponges and she's always doing my face. Um, but then my hair guy today is Jason and she went over and started doing his makeup. And I love that she just doesn't even see anything. She just knows like you can get some makeup and you can get some makeup. And I feel like, I don't know. I just feel like that's the world we're growing up in. We're growing up in a world where it's like, you know, there's two gender parents and there's, and they don't even think about it. You know what I mean?

Cause we have like friends that have a daughter that's Malibu's age and you know, there's Papa and then there's Dada and stuff like that. And it's just cool. Cause it's like, you just see it and you don't have to be told like, oh, this is different or this is that you just see it. You know, it's like, oh, there's two dads or two moms. And also just in general, I saw a TikToker talk about how Gen Alpha is like lucky. Cause like dads are just being more involved. They're like, we went to like an event and it was like all the dads like were actually like involved, which I know you said you had a really active, like involved dad, but like, I feel like everybody I know, just their dads, even if they were present, they weren't taking you into rehearsals. They'd just like come to the recital. They weren't like involved, you know?

And now I think everybody we know, like my makeup artist husband, everything who's like, you know, obsessed with his daughter and stuff. Everyone's just so hands-on now as a dad, which is like so cool too. I love that like this generation is all about the dads being involved with the kids, which is like, what a concept. But like, they just never were. Like, I don't know. My dad, he, again, he was like there, but he was like in California. We saw him in the summers, whatever. Like, you know, I don't know. It's cool now that they're being involved, you know, if you're lucky enough to have a dad. I pray every day. I'm like, please let Moses live 50 years because we need him forever. But anyways, I just think it's cool that this generation is more open-minded and just doesn't even think about like, oh, makeup on a

girl or not a boy. I don't know. It's cool. It's a fun world. I love it. And I know people are like, oh, I want to bring kids into the world right now. But I think it's changing. I think it's getting better. I mean, it is still scary, but I think like as a human race, we're like evolving more. We have a little more compassion and openness for the most part. Yeah. And they're the future. So, you know, if you only get better if you bring in kids who are. Yeah. I mean, you know, raise them good, raise them right. And I, I don't know. Part of me also thinks they just like, no, they just know they're just smarter. i think the next generation is just always smarter and knows and i have i have faith for gen alpha gen z i don't know but gen alpha they're coming through with everything with all the support and

inclusivity and we love it i'll probably do a gender reveal i don't know maybe our first episode back we'll do a little gender reveal oh that'd be cute yeah unless it's not allowed i don't know i guess we'll find out after this episode you guys let me know i just think this. I just think they're fun. I just think they're so fun. And I'm not going to lie. We knew the gender before we did our gender reveal. Everyone's supposed to be surprised, but when you get that call, it's like a few days after you do the test, and you get the call, and you're like, do you want to know the gender? How do people say no?

No. I have no self-control. Tell us right now. We knew, but we still did a gender reveal for everyone else because it's just fun. It's fun. It's fun to let people know. Like, it was fun. It was as exciting. To see all their reactions.

Yeah. To let them know and see their reaction. Then we got excited. I would love to be surprised, though. It's just like, I can't wait. Like, I do love the idea of, like, taking it to a bakery and having this cake and being like, oh, my gosh, you know. But I don't know.

You can't, like, you know, when we go into the x-ray, the imaging, the ultrasound, you can't hide it. Like, you'll see. You see what they are. Oh, really? Yeah. You can tell. It's, like, harder to see. I can't hide it like you'll see you see what they are oh really yeah you can say it's like harder to see i think they have to tell you we could see like we haven't seen yet i don't know we'll see our this this baby whatever it is is jumping and excited and active and i feel none of it which is crazy i feel like never i never have symptoms i never get sick like it's very bizarre oh yeah just tired and hungry sometimes it's a blessing to have

such a nice pregnancy very calm it is crazy and that's what we're talking about earlier with bodies and it's like my last pregnancy i was like again like so happy so blessed like it was completely healthy you know you have to do a like you can get gestational diabetes which is like very easy to get i didn't have that like i just was like clean the whole way through like everything was just perfect bill of health which is like so then you have to start thinking like okay my body is healthy like Like it is strong. It's, you know, able to, not that it's like, it's not if you can't, you know, if you have any of that stuff, but sometimes I have to be more appreciative of that. It's like, cause I mean, diabetes and

gestational diabetes, they kind of explained to it that like, it's not really about your weight. It's not even about the sugar you intake. It's kind of like how your body breaks down sugar. My body's very good at breaking down sugar cause I've been eating it forever. So I guess it's, you know, yeah. So I've been lucky. And again, it's like, it doesn't have to do with sugar intake. People just get it. But yeah, last pregnancy was wonderful. So I'm hoping it's smooth sailing.

And then I'll just like pew during this share. The share is going to look so tiny by the end of it, especially because it's like full body. But I didn't pop until like month eight or nine. We'll see. Anyways, we have hot topics. We've got so many. Well, this is the hottest

no i know there was actually too many hot topics i was like no they're taking away from my announcement because i had a planned announcement for thanksgiving and i just don't want to wait anymore because it's like i don't know i was just excited and then i was like wait no there's so many hot topics i should save it for a week that doesn't have any hot topics you know but that's not gonna happen today because but we have a lot. We did our Thanksgiving. We did our M&M's. Turkey ice cream from Baskin Robbins. Guys, go get the turkey ice cream cake. Not sponsored, but their new flavor of the month is Thanksgiving flavored. It's cranberry. It's sweet potato. It's so delicious. Have you tried it? No. Are you an ice cream

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Check it out. All right. What's your hot topics today? Oh, my God. I have so many too. So many. I'm trying to figure out where to start. Where to start because there's so many different like silly ones.

The gay nutcracker. Wait, what? I thought that would be on the top of your list. That's on the top of my list. I want to ones. The gay nutcracker. Wait, what? I thought that would be on the top of your list. That's on the top of my list. I want to dress as the gay nutcracker. Everyone's so upset about it. At Target, I wanted to go get it. Oh, man.

I didn't see it at our Target. I didn't see it at my Target either. Did you see it though? Have you heard about it? It's all over Fox News. They're all mad. I'm like, why? About the gay nutcracker?

Yeah. He's not even like that gay. He just has like some rainbows and like a trans flag. Like he literally just looks like a regular nutcracker i was like people are just weird they act like they're in like crazy sex positions or something it's like literally just that there's also they were upset about uh santa being black in a wheelchair oh i did see that and i was like why are people and it's like fox news and i don't i don't know why it's on my tiktok page all fox news but it's like why are these people and also white people complaining

about this i'm like you need to like not a white straight guy is complaining about this i'm like this looks bad on you like why would you even talk yeah that's such a weird thing to like go against it's crazy because like if it's not for you just don't buy it but like yeah it's for someone else like that's what i don't understand it's like okay if you don't like it then you it's not like you're being forced to buy it or even have it in your home but they're not like mailing it to you and like forcing it on your doorstep. Just, like, keep it moving. What's the propaganda? What's the hate campaign against, like, Target?

It's so weird. It's like, oh, my God, they're selling gay pride nutcrackers. So woke, yeah. It's weird. Like, it's such a weird thing. I know. It's just a matter of, like, representation, like, giving consumers options to purchase things that, like, represent them or their ideals or what they can relate to.

And that's – what's so bad about that? It's so weird. I know. Especially when they were like coming for like the black Santa and the witch. I'm like, that literally sounds like a hate crime that you're doing against this like statue. Like you're literally like, oh my God, why would they do that? I was like, that's such a weird thing to complain about.

I know. Like God forbid. I know. I don't know. I'm here for all of it. I love all of it. I love all of it. I think it's, you know, it's good.

Plus Santa gets boring after a while. So I would love to have. Mix it up. Yeah. Give people options. And I think it's all of it. I love all of it. I love all of it. I think it's, you know, it's good. I suppose Santa gets boring after a while, so I would love to have. Mix it up. Yeah, good people options. And I think it's just, yeah, have a variety. I don't know. Also, Santa's creepy. Like, our Santa version that was at the mall for so many years is, like, creepy. I saw Santa at Disney World, and he was African-American, and he just looked so – his, like, you know

what? His hair, everything looked so much better. I mean, I think he was, like, wearing a wig and stuff. Maybe they uploaded it because it's Disney World. But, like, our mall Santas are a little scary. I tried to take her there and I was just like, these guys are like guys that haven't like washed their beards in a while. No offense to mall Santas, but the ones that are, we'll just talk about our mall here in

T.O. Like they definitely are just Santas that look like that all year round and they do not wash their beards. Because we were going to go last year and I was just like, ooh, that's not clean. So maybe they upped it this year. I don't know. No offense to any Santas. I mean, if you're a white Santa, it's fine too. But the ones who look like Santa all year round always creep me out a little bit because I'm like, ooh, that's not clean. So maybe they upped it this year. I don't know. No offense to any Santas. I mean, if you're a white Santa, it's fine too.

But the ones who look like Santa all year round always creep me out a little bit because I'm like, ooh, why? Why are you choosing that aesthetic all year round? I don't know. You know? Like choose one, a white beard or a white hair. Don't like have both or be jolly. All right. No gay nutcracker.

I guess that's not what we're dressing up this year. It's so cute. I want it. We'll find it. We'll find it for the set. If you see it, keep your eyes open. I will. We got it at Walmart too and get the happy snacks. That's what I was thinking about too. Okay. We'll try and get that for next week. Okay. What's the top story? What's your top story? Okay. Well, I mean, there's top

and then there's like, I feel like we got to work our way. The top is the gay nutcracker. I really want to talk about this though. This isn't, this is a story that I feel personally invested in now. The drama between Tana and Brooke. Have you been following the birthday drama? Okay, kind of. Just on TikTok. Like I haven't really followed it. Yeah.

Yeah. Whenever I know people, I always try not to get invested in the drama because I'm like, oh my God. Because you know, sometimes it's like real people. I feel like they don't care so much. Same. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I would care so deeply if there was like drama about this like not coming to my birthday party.

Okay, tell me a little bit about it let's fill up people in okay so last week on canceled at towards the end it was like the last like five minutes a conversation happened between tana uh and crew and brooke where they were talking about how brooke's birthday is this year like the day after thanksgiving i think it's november 26th right but it changes every year it's not always after. It's not always after Thanksgiving. Yes. Not her birthday, but the day after Thanksgiving. Yeah. Thanksgiving. So a lot of the times people – she'll make plans to celebrate her birthday and then they'll cancel because of the holidays or whatever. So this year she just said that she straight up is not inviting anyone and she's going to do something separate for her birthday because everyone always cancels on her and she gets really disappointed by it.

Yeah. And this sparked like a huge debate about – Oh, were they upset? I didn't see this part. Well, Tana was just kind of explaining like to her birthdays like aren't that big of a deal or any like big day in general. She said like you can miss my wedding and I would understand. I mean she doesn't care about anything.

Like you can literally like make out with her boyfriend. She's like it's fine. Like she – like which is crazy. That's the best way to be. I could never. Yeah. But for Brooke, she said specifically birthdays for her are a really big

deal and that she always shows up to her friends' birthdays and she would hope that her friends show up to celebrate her birthday. And then it sparked this whole debate in the comment section on does Brooke need better friends, et cetera, et cetera. And then Brooke flew out

to the East Coast. She did the Planbury podcast live or whatever. And then Tana and Co had like a Friendsgiving. And this is where I was like, what is going on? I was really following the breadcrumbs. Get that back on. We'll have Brooke and Tana. We have to. I almost wanted to like get a statement. I was like, Brooke, can you release this statement? Oh my God. She follows you. Oh my God. Guess you're getting statements from people. Because they had a Friendsgiving and everyone, you know, it was the whole Tana and Co. Like they're all characters, all personalities.

They're all doing different Friendsgiving TikToks. Lila's there stirring some pot. Oh my God. Lila's why I love her. She's always like, I want to come on the podcast. I'm like, girl, I have to censor every word you say. Okay. They said that they could, they aired, they did a podcast with Lila

and they can't air the episode because it was so unhinged. No, she's so wild. Everything she does and it's great. But like, honestly, we'll have to do it on Patreon, Patreon episode

because she like, YouTube would never allow. But Brooke said that Lila never misses a birthday party. So she's just kind of shading. But anyway, so the whole TikTok group was like doing

Friendsgiving TikToks and then Brooke tweeted and deleted ironic dot, dot, dot. The same day that the Friendsgiving was going on. Oh, like saying she like, it's ironic that that was happening while she was gone. But maybe they don't know her schedule. Like to be fair, I'm a Brooke fan.

I'm a fan. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't assume someone knows my schedule. And it is technically, like it's the weekend before Thanksgiving weekend. So it makes sense. When people do their Friendsgiving. It's always like a Friendsgiving. Yeah. Yeah.

But I've been like so invested in it because I kind of see both sides but now it's i'm like brooke i wouldn't i would go to your birthday party although birthdays to me are not a big deal like i i'm not a big birthday like oh birthdays are a big deal maybe it's a borderline thing maybe because we both have mental illness maybe we both because i am very bad birthdays i'm very big like i used to always throw big parties for myself it's also like a thing yeah interesting it's also a thing like if she's and i always throw parties for myself again this's also like a thing. Yeah. Interesting. It's also a thing like if she's, and I always throw parties for myself and again, this is like no shade, but if she's like putting something together for herself, you already kind of feel like someone should be doing this for me, which they should. But you know, if you're the one having to do it and then

no one shows up on top of that, like it really, really sucks. Now, granted it is awful to have a birthday around Thanksgiving because yet people are out of town. I think it's like Christmas too. It's like you almost have to do it like the month – like a couple weeks before because it is hard. But I would feel some type of way – again, I'm not really in the crew. But they seem to always be doing stuff like for each other's birthdays and stuff. You know what I mean? Like Amari, they went to like Vegas on a private jet.

Well, that was the other thing too. Yeah. So Tana is – when she was here, like she was saying how busy she is around Halloween. But Amari's birthday was in October, too. And she had to go and have a whole Vegas thing in the middle of all her Halloween stuff. So the viewers were like, well, if she's still celebrating Amari's birthday in the middle of Halloween, why can't she celebrate Thanksgiving and Brooke's birthday? Because I know Amari and her are definitely just closer just by how many times. I think she said she was adopted by his mom.

They're just by association just being together longer and i don't know i don't know it's so hard to tell because i'm kind of an outsider in the situation i don't know like if they're it's like you and me right like are they just together on the podcast and not that we are not friends outside of it it's just like i don't really hang out with people so it's like to me bro comes across as like she likes to be alone and maybe doesn't go out all the time with them like i never see her out and i always think that's like her choice because it seems like she likes to be alone which is how i would be yeah yeah It's kind of hard to tell. I don't know. It's so hard to tell in this situation because like how close are they? Yes, they're

close and they're obviously good friends. It's like I consider you a close friend, but we don't hang out all the time. You know what I mean? And so is it that same situation? I don't know. It's so tough because I always think now like, okay, if it was your birthday party, like I wouldn't make the, I don't know. I'd never go out. the I don't know I now go out so I don't know you know but it's hard if someone made it really clear that the whole event was like dependent on me being there and like they would be really disappointed if I wasn't there then it'd be like I gotta like you know but it is hard Thanksgiving like family stuff and it's also like but then that's why I keep going back and forth yeah it's like well I'll work with your schedules like it doesn't have to be like the day after Thanksgiving yeah

so I go back and forth I'm like I don't understand I know I honestly don't know either I don't know it's hard and it's like again I'm trying to think of your perspective it's like a future birthday and we're working so close together like I would really make it a point to go but I don't think I've ever been to anyone's birthday parties and I get invited like you know my glam people and stuff like that but it's really just because like it's hard for me to like go out but I don't think I've ever been to anyone's birthday parties and I get invited like you know my glam people and stuff like that but it's really just because like it's hard for me to like go out but I guess it's like like you're actually like really close friends that you know they're like hey I know you're not and usually she would give them a gift earlier and we do something earlier with them I definitely always do gifts for sure yeah like a smaller thing yeah but they know her

well and I'm the opposite like my birthday is right before a halloween oh yeah so i actually push it to halloween i'm like okay let's celebrate it on halloween because anyway it's kind of an exciting thing but thanksgiving's not the equivalent because you can't just do like let's all celebrate thanksgiving on your birthday right so i'm saying it depends on what holiday it is and thanksgiving is like a family holiday so you just mine's always on mother's day and believe it or not people are like not around on mother's day like people are always like away on Mother's Day. And believe it or not, people are, like, not around on Mother's Day. Like, people are always, like, away on Mother's Day. So. So I was just pushing that. But they are such party people.

They're just such crew people where they're, like, always doing something. So you would feel some type of way. Like, it's almost like when I was, like, in the vlog squad. Not to throw it back. But, you know, I had a tour. I had a tour for, like, three months. And it, like, sold out because I think people thought David would show up. So my tour was sold out.

And not one of those freaking vlog squad members ever came to my birthday. Or to my tour. Like, not one show. And they would members ever came to my birthday or to my tour like not one show and they would go to everyone's tour they would go to freaking scotty sire tour no offense scotty but you know what i mean every episode bolognese scotty sire no but i just remember them going to so many scotty sire shows and i get it he was like in the front group longer but like i was a i was a big part of those vlogs for like a year i was like in every single like thumbnail so i was just like how are front group longer, but like I was a, I was a big part of those vlogs for like a year. I was like in every single like thumbnail. So I was just like, how are you not going to come to like one show? Even when it's in LA, like you can't come to an LA show. I'm

dating someone from this group and you can't even come. Like it was bad. Like no one came. So that's why I kind of know when you think back on like friendships in general, I'm just like, oh yeah, like Shane didn't come. Like no one came and I knew Shane for like, it's, it's very bizarre. So, um, I get that feeling of like, okay, we we're a crew you guys come out for everything you celebrate everything were they was she genuinely upset what was she saying or were they were they genuinely upset that she wasn't inviting them because good for her for doing like her own thing like it's like yeah no one comes to my birthday so i'm gonna just do my own thing they weren't like upset like ari was doing a lot of the talking he was just kind of like talking about it but not like in an upset way

yeah then it is it was all kind of weird though because it broke also like end of the podcast like really abruptly because they were still kind of talking though because Brooke also like ended the podcast like really abruptly because they were still kind of talking about it. Tana was like, yeah, I know. I have to buy her something really good

for her birthday this year. And Brooke was like, what? No. That's so me. That's canceled. Brooke's just like kind of wrapped it up.

I'm like, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Yeah, I would buy her something really expensive. I'd be like, that's actually what I do. I usually give people

like bonus checks like for their birthday. Like I'm like, oh, I can't go near your birthday but like here's $500 or something like expensive. I'd be like, that's actually what I do. I usually give people like bonus checks like for their birthday. Like I'm like, oh, I can't go to your birthday. But like here's $500 or something like that. Like I always do that. Like, you know, because I do feel bad. Like I know I want people to show up for me. But it's like it's really hard for me to like get out of the house.

So now I think with Malibu we make so much more effort. We've been to more parties in the past year than like literally my entire life. Like I think I've been to like 10 kids' birthday parties. And kids' birthday parties are very mutual. Like if you go, like they come and bring, you know, like it's very that. What is she doing for her birthday this year? Did she say? No, she didn't say.

It's coming up. She's doing something separate. Maybe we should go. Oh yeah. We surprised her with our San Diego sweatshirts. It's a brick party. I love that. Oh, well.

Oh, and then she was, that TikTok live where she was wearing the San Diego sweatshirt, she even talked about a little bit in there. She said, well, it seems like a lot of comments are on the right side, the side that anyone would be on. Her side? Well, at least she has like a sun table. She seems – both of them. Both of them seem to like let things go very – which I'm actually more proud of Brooke because Brooke, she has what I have, which is borderline. And it is hard to let things go.

Like it's like you hang on to that more. Whereas as opposed to Tana, I mean she just like doesn't care about anything, which is like a good, in the best way, like literally like her friends will like make out with a guy or whatever, hook up with people. And she's like, doesn't care. I'm like, that's amazing. So Tana's really cool that she can like let things go. I think that's like such a good trait to have.

But it's really cool that Brooke can just let things go and be funny about it. I also think like in a work relationship and stuff like that, it's just like, again, I don't know how close they are as far as like friends in real life. Do they talk on the phone? Are they sharing like that stuff? Or are they just see each other for, in a way, I think like when we just see each other for the podcast, there's just so much more to catch up on, right? We text, we text each other and it's very short, but I always just feel like if we were on the phone all the time, we would be like, oh, we already talked about this or something. You know what I mean? Especially because I think sometimes then they film like a couple episodes like back to back i think that particular

one it was the day before we did the brook episode she didn't review it because she wanted to a lot of people want to review our episodes and they won't have any edits or anything like that but um we didn't get the episode till seven but she was filming she told me she filmed like five podcasts in one night that night and so she didn't get done till like 2 a.m and i was like oh i think because they must be traveling or something so especially in that case then it kind of makes sense that they like are together to like work and like film or do the tour or whatever and then like kind of take a break but not like a shady you know way or anything but yeah just like a kind of like balance yeah I don't want to know what she's doing now I don't know I um yeah I saw the drama isn't it funny that there's like drama like that

from the podcast I guess that's good for them because then people watch the podcast yeah I guess people invest in it yeah but I think the only thing I will say I don't I don't like when people are too hard on like oh Tana must be like a bad friend or Brooke needs better friends like yeah Brooke is like she's also you know she's an adult and I think she would know if people like were actually bad friends. She would – Not be around them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

For sure. She would have that knowledge. Oh, I'm like the worst friend. I would say that. As far as like – I'm just so bad at like texting, talking, like showing up for things and stuff like that. So I think a lot of friendships also just fail because of me because it's just like I'm just so – I don't know.

I'm just like – I don't know. I've never been that person because I didn't grow up with friends and honestly like my mom didn't really have like friends coming over to the house. She didn't really have like friends. Like I don't know. I'm just like, I don't know. I've never been that person because I didn't grow up with friends. And honestly, like my mom didn't really have like friends coming over to the house. Like she didn't really have like frenzy. Like, I don't know. I never really saw friendship. So it's bizarre. I think it's cool. Like, especially someone like Tana who has like 20 friends and they're all like super close. Like, I like love that. I think that's cool. It's such a cool vibe. But I just wouldn't even know how to like nurture those friendships or anything. Like someone DM me a TikToker. Actually, she's like a Broadway person. She DM me and she goes, we should hang out. And then I was like, if you're ever going to come to the podcast, but then I was thinking, oh, I think she might just want to hang out. But

to me, this is hanging out. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I don't know. But yeah, friendships are very, I can't ever chime in on friendship stuff because I'm always just like, I don't even know how that even works. Like I would just expect, I don't know. In one hand, I would expect everyone to come to my birthday, but in the other hand, I would expect no one to come to my birthday. My birthday is people have notoriously said. They're all like, oh, they're just people that work for you. But I'm like, that's the people I see, you know? Like my glam people.

Those are my friends. And, you know, that's it. I don't know. I get along with everyone I work with. So I consider them my friends. I'm just like my birthday is like so low key. Like last year for my birthday, my big thing was just getting like McDonald's breakfast. And I was like, that's really all I wanted.

Oh my God. That's like every day here. This year we did nothing. Well, we go to Mastro's, but I mean, honestly, that's kind of like a monthly thing. I mean, it is very nice. We had a very low key birthday this year, but, um, well, that's a whole other conversation. I was low key. It was just like a lot, but, uh, yeah, I always like making a big deal on my birthday, but now that I have like a baby, you got to save up for those baby birthday parties because those are so expensive for those balloon arches but and then now with her we have to be social so i try to nurture my relationships a little better because it's like you know she needs to

have friends and stuff you know and it's just you know it's hard all your time all your social isn't goes to that now so we're always just like looking for people who have babies i'm like oh do you have a baby let's get together robert pattinson suki waterhouse we could have a little baby play date hillary duff always has like mom play dates with like Mandy Moore and stuff. I think their kids are a little older and they have like Ashley Tisdale in the group and they do these like – yeah. I was like, oh, man. I wish I knew that.

Yeah. That's the mom category. That's the mom category. I don't know any like moms. Not Rihanna, I guess. Hit me up. I think Quentin Tarantino had a baby the same time we had a baby too. So anyways.

All of that. That's tea. Yeah. I saw clips of it. I always see clips of the canceled podcast on TikTok. I watch it. I watch it. But like I, you know, on drives.

It's funny what gets picked up and like becomes a thing from cancel. I know. It's so funny. It's also funny what gets picked up from here. Not to talk about our show again, but it's like the Shadi Bay, like certain ones that got brought up from that interview, which I'm like so glad people like, but it's always so funny what people like pick out. Like, oh my God, she keeps calling Trish bra. I didn't even notice. I was

just like, Oh, it's like her little accent, her little style. So I always think it's so fun whenever I see clips of us on Tik Tok. I'm always like, Oh, that's cool. Just like the random or so random. You know, we talked for so long and then I get a little like delirious. We're always hungry at some point. And I'm always just like, I don't even know what we talked about. God, there's literally so much this week. I don't even know where to go. Oh, Iggy Azalea called me fat. Oh, you did it again. What?

No, did you see it? I said it to you. Iggy Azalea. I'm dead. Why are their names so similar? Iggy Azalea. Azalea Banks called you. Azalea Banks called me fat. Fat Iggy Azalea. Oh, God.

Okay, yes. Baby brain. Now you can blame everything on baby brain. Baby brain. I'm pregnant. And I'm also not fat. I'm pregnant. I can use that for like the next six months too.

You have to. I'm pregnant. That was so wild. Okay. Did she just DM somebody this? The Azalea Banks News which it's, that's what, it goes back to like the random like Twitter accounts. I'm worried that Azalea Banks News like watches the podcast and then like screen recorded and sent it to

The drama. They wanted the tea. They instigated. They're like, hey, Trisha called you iggy which was just a you know slip of words but i will say that was i mean it's so confusing that's so confusing um but yeah as far as getting read by azalea banks like wasn't bad no that's actually pretty that's like pretty solid i would say like choice along he really got it yeah he really got it so I think it's kind of like a rite of passage and all things considered. I think you – it's like a seal of approval. And did you see that, like, apparently two years ago, Azalea Banks, like, posted on her Instagram story that her cousin –

Yeah, or niece or something. Someone's cousin maybe. I don't know. Was a fan. Yeah. So she's like, I got to get to know her more. So at one point, she was a fan. Then I called her Iggy.

Azalea, you're more of a queen than Iggy ever will be. Because, yeah, Iggy didn't do your mukbang with you. Right. Iggy wanted to. Right. I was devastated, too. I don't think – I don't know really what happened or what. But they were like – they said something.

Whoever reached out was like, you know, she wants to do a mukbang with you. And I was like, oh, my God. That's so cool. And then it just like fell apart. And then it was always like a little sad when that happens. But I mean it happens. Our show, too. We've gotten some cool people. And then it's like I'm going to follow up in the New Year with you. And I was like, oh my God, so cool. And then it just like fell apart. And then it was always like a little sad when that happens. But I mean, it happens. Our show too, we've gotten some cool people. And then it's like, I'm going to follow up in the New Year with everybody.

I have all a list of people because we have some like really big, like A-list people wanting to come on. And then like you talk to their managers and then it becomes like a thing and it's hard to book them. So in the New Year, I'm going to follow up with everybody. But not to say we haven't had slayed guests. Honestly, Shadi B was one of my favorites and I will slay all day for them. I like having guests that are new to podcast world or like, you know, that don't have a

lot of interviews. I think that's fun too. Yeah. I'm going on Zach's thing next week. I'm going to ask him about the Troye Sivan hookup. Can you get Troye Sivan on our podcast and Ariana? Honestly, Ari is probably bigger than Troye. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So no offense to Troye, but I think Ariana's just been around longer. And like as far as like hits, like Ariana has a lot of – had a lot of like top hits. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She also duetted with The Weeknd. Oh, yeah, of course. You can't beat that.

It was – every time we go on a date night, Moza always plays The Weeknd in the car for me. It's so great. I'm always like, yeah. And we heard the Save the Tears song with her and I was like, oh, it's so good. I love Ariana. She soft launched her boyfriend. Yes. Which I wanted to get that shirt. I was like, oh, my God. That shirt I love Ari. She soft launched her boyfriend. Which I wanted to get that shirt.

I was like, oh my God, that shirt's everything. That's wild. It's crazy. It's crazy that it's like happening and it's like real and it's like in front of us. I just love how sly she was about it. She like took a picture of the shirt and then he posted him with the shirt. I was like, okay, I love that. That's very like, we don't want people to know, but we want people to know, you know?

And the picture of him as a baby, by the way, is from Sam Mollat, everybody. Okay, Pop Crave. Trying to do him dirty. Like, ah, stun, is from Sam Mollat, everybody. Okay, Pop Crane, trying to do him dirty, like, uh, stuns a new photo. Didn't say stuns, just said in a new photo. And then everyone's like, oh my god, this is Ariana's. I was like, okay, for all you non-theater people, like, what? It's costume. It's shocking,

though. Like, I saw that photo really did stop me in my tracks and made me think about a few things. I was like, what is – What? I figured it must have been some kind of theatricality kind of thing. I figured it was for one of them little shows, but – No, a big Broadway show.

One of them little shows. But my God, that photo was shocking. It was – oh, my God. To me, even if I didn't know the show, I'd be like, clearly this is a costume. This is not how he dresses. He's not a little. It would be different. Seeing Jacob Elordi dress as a clearly this is a costume. This is not how he dresses. He's not a little. It'd be different. Like seeing Jacob Elordi dress his little baby for a show.

Okay, that's cute. But for something about Ethan Slater dressing up as a little baby for Spamalot, I don't know. I'm done with the Ethan Slater ugly shaming too or look shaming because it's like there's again so many things to come for him for, but it's like him being unattractive doesn't mean one of them. And honestly, okay, as a theater person, I think he's very attractive. He's, he is like theater royalty. Like when there's a straight guy in like musical theater, people love him.

Like right before him, there was a guy named Christian Borle who was married to Sutton Foster, had an affair with Laura Balbandi. He was like the it guy. What is with theater people and affairs? Oh yeah. They're wild in the theater. Cause I think there's like a bunch of horny theater kids. And this guy, like again, looking at him, you wouldn't think like, oh my God, he's so hot. But he is one of

the hottest people in the world to me because it's like his talent, his swag. Christian Borle. Oh, Christian. But Ethan Slater, which is weird because Ethan Slater is playing Christian Borle's role in Spamalot. And they're not that far apart in age, maybe like 20 years or something like that. But look up Christian Borle. He's so cute. I met him one time. Actually, I'll give you a picture of me and Christian Borle. It's one of my favorite pictures ever. And Christian Borle knows he's hot too because I meet a lot of celebrities and they're really nice me and Christian Borle. It's one of my favorite pictures ever. And Christian Borle knows he's hot too because, you know, I meet a lot of like celebrities

and they're really nice. But Christian Borle was just very much like, I'm Christian Borle. Like he's just like, and I feel like Ethan Slater has that same swag where he's just like, I'm Ethan Slater. And I think Ethan Slater is very handsome. I do think it's wild. He looks like Frankie Gandhi. Like that picture.

Did you see that one? I mean, that's crazy. That does look like they almost morphed. But again, I don't think it's like a bad thing. It's almost like dating someone that's like reminds you of their mother or something like that. Like, you know, you just date people who feel familiar. I don't know. People are so hard on him.

First of all, he's not ugly. Okay. He's not an ugly person. And I don't know. Even if he was, like, whatever. And I don't know. I mean, he obviously has something that Ariana's like, you know, pulled by him. But he's also like such a good singer.

He's just so talented. I'm on Ethan Slater's stand. Yeah. And honestly, people were like, well, you know, his wife may be like, you know, maybe that's like she won at the end of the day. She's got the baby photo and she goes, you know what, actually, she's like, I'm good. Yeah. And maybe that's it.

Maybe she needed a, I don't know, trying to find some like silver lining here. But the soft launch was real. Ariana's beautiful, though. Sheriana's beautiful though she's gorgeous god she's so pretty she's looking so good i wish i could be her but um love the soft launch and i love that they're just there what do you think they're gonna like officially post maybe when like the wicked trailer comes out because at that point it's like can you really like escape it you know yeah do you think they'll get married um i think ari well she she has been married, but I feel like she'd want to get married again. You know what I mean?

Yeah. She seems like the romantic type for sure and, like, wants to really settle down. But I know it's hard because some Arianators just aren't here for – what's their ship name? Like, Ipeana? Wait, what did you say it was? Ipeana? Is that what it is? Ipeana.

That's cute. I like that. Ari – oh, yeah, their names are weird. Ipeana? I don't know. It's cute. I like that. Ari. Oh, yeah. The names are weird. Etiana? I don't know. It's a hard one. I stand in solidarity with Arianators. Like, I stand a queen who has had some frogs before the prince, too.

So. Yeah. What can I say? What can I say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What can you say at this point? Love is love, I guess. Love is love.

And it is crazy. I mean, it is wild. It's also sad, too. I mean, that's all, like, you know, just at the end of the day, love is wild. Life is wild. I don't know. I mean, it is wild. It's also sad, too. I mean, that's all, like, you know, just at the end of the day, love is wild. Life is wild. I don't know how people can just switch so quickly. And again, we don't know their relationship. Maybe he was out of love.

Maybe the wife. I don't know. Maybe they don't love each other. I don't know. Who knows? I have to think of it that way. I'm like, maybe there was problems or they wanted to be out. I always think if someone, like, is in that situation, they were kind of, like, one foot

out anyways. You know what I mean? Because I just don't see myself like now. There's just no way I could go any direction. I couldn't be pulled by anyone. Not even The Weeknd. Sorry. Which, by the way, he has the most streamed song ever on Spotify.

What song? Blinding Lights. 3.8 billion. Did you say million? Billion. Oh, yeah. Is that enough? I don't know.

Things like that. I don't know. He's number one. And number two was Ed Sheeran with Body. Put your body on me. What is the song? I'm in love with your body. Shape of You.

Oh, yeah. Shape of You is what it's called. Like the movie. With like the sea monster. Oh, that's Shape of Water. I'm in love with the shape of you. That's the second one. Which is like, it's a sleigh, but also like.

Random. But Taylor wasn't up there. I was shocked. Because we were saying, we had this debate in the car, not debate, but talking when we go on a date. This is what we talked about because The Weeknd was playing. And I was like, I'm shocked that he had the most song because we were talking about how he doesn't really like have a fandom.

I think the casual straight man loves The Weeknd. Really? Yeah. And they're not the ones necessarily like on twitter like saying like okay slay able you know like for sure they're just streaming and then going fishing you know you think that's so funny because i listen to his songs and i wouldn't think i wouldn't to me i don't know again i'm a new weekend fan but i wouldn't think like straight men listen to it because it's so about like the girls and being sensual and i want to i want everyone you know

like all that stuff like that you know a? A lot of straight men I know love The Weeknd. Really? Okay. I didn't know. Everyone at the gym, all the straight guys at the gym are listening to The Weeknd. Really? Yeah. I guess I don't know enough straight guys. Like, I don't know. I know.

Not by choice, but the ones I know. Yeah. That was wild to me. I was like, because I, again, I'd never even heard of The Weeknd before this year. And I was just like, how have I never heard of this person that has the biggest songs in the world? Like, of course I've heard of Ed Sheeran and stuff like that. So it was always weird. Maybe because he he's so private i don't know when

you don't make a big spectacle out of everything you know i feel like it's just you don't have like that insane stand-up but you're still like really talented so you get like the casual like everyday person who just isn't living or who isn't chronically online right right they just like love your music on the radio or something interesting i thought it was weird i thought taylor swift was weird that she wasn't on there because she's so massive right now. Yeah. And I'm such a Swiftie now. I don't know if I'm on Swift Talk because of you or something, but I just see Taylor

Swift everywhere. And I'm like, I don't know. I kind of got into it now. I'm like, okay, we love Taylor Swift now. Travis Kelsey. All of that, you know. Yeah. Did she cancel her shows indefinitely?

They're done? No, she just postponed one from over the weekend because of the heat. Just one? Yeah. And she moved it to today monday so she's still going how long is her tour going for oh my god it's all it's through next year she keeps adding dates it's like never that's the weekend too he's been on tour for two years although he did cancel his australian tour and everyone's like suspecting why they think he's having a baby or something

like that oh yeah oh he's a girlfriend yeah i forgot her name she's like a she's like a model or something of course she is oh my god he's dating like bella dean and selenaena i'm like can we not that makes me like unless not to say he's an ugly person like i love ariana for dating ethan slater it's like oh that could be me yeah as opposed to like who's the model i forget her name i think oh no is she pretty yeah she is it still breaks my heart i'm married with another baby on the way but sometimes i break my heart see me see me kadra this is her this is a fat it's a papazzi photo, so it's kind of hard to see. She looks very young. How old is she? No, I always get nervous

when the guys I like, they date. He's 33, she's 30, so that's pretty good. Oh, thank God. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I support. Oh, they've been together since early 2022. Oh, well, that's not that long. I mean, love. That's a year and a half.

That's long. I think he was with That's a year and a half. That's long. I think he was with like Bella Hadid for like five or six years or something like that. I don't know. Okay, we love. I see him. But he's so private. And like I haven't really heard – I just heard about him and her like recently. Yeah, I didn't know.

Yikes. Don't like him. Just kidding. And maybe she watches. Get him on the podcast. We love you, Simi. We love Simi. Yeah, he gets all the models.

Well, I guess if you have the number one song on Spotify. You got a lot of pool. I want to go to his house where he shot the Idol. Anyways, I know we always talk about the Idol and we don't need to talk about it, but I just am like so fascinated by him in so many ways. Oh, I need to get your, I'm so excited to get your opinion on this. Okay. Continuing.

I can't breathe. The baby's kicking. I thought, we had dinner with friends and I was like, I'm like, oh, it's so cool. Like, oh, is it the baby? He's like, yes, the baby's kicking. I thought, we had dinner with friends and I was like, I'm like, oh, I'm so cold. Like,

oh, is it the baby? He's like, yes, the baby. Okay. Okay. So in sexiest man discourse,

the sexiest bald man alive has been decided by like all these scientific studies. Oh. Do you know who it is? Sexiest bald man. Do you have any guesses?

Wait, hold on. Oh gosh. Oh, is it The Rock? No. Really? I'm. Do you have any guesses? Wait. Hold on. Oh, gosh. Oh, is it The Rock? No. Really? I'm surprised everyone loves The Rock. You're going to be more gagged by who it is.

No. Who? It is Prince William. Is he bald? Is he considered bald? I think he's balding. Is he actually bald? I'm pretty sure he's bald.

I get it. Yeah. He's super hot. Oh, you'd like it? Oh, I love Prince William. Oh. I did a trivia show last week, and literally one of the questions was, like, what is the sport of kings?

And it was like polo, chess, or croquet. Do you know? Polo? And why do you think that? Because I just remember him and Harry would always go to the little polo tournament. And that's what I said. And then literally the picture was him on a horse, like, playing polo. And I was like, I just love Prince William.

Anyways, I love everything about him. I think he's so cute. I think he's the better of the brother. Okay, I'm a little bit slanderous of Harry and Meghan. I do not like them or care for them. They're just bothering me on so many levels. But I love Prince William. Yeah, I love him.

He's a slay. When he was younger, I thought he was hot. But now I'm like, out of all the bald men, Prince William is the sexiest bald man we got. Please no royalty die in May. I swear to goodness. If the king dies or something and they say it's my baby, just I have the fear of the royal family at all times. King Philip. We are giving birth to the king.

Oh my God. I know. So that's why I'm saying King Philip or who's the other one? King Charles. He's old. Yeah. Please stay alive. Whoever it is.

Oh my God. Please don't have anything like that. Prince William's hot. Will he come on the podcast? I would love that. I bet Prince Harry would come on the podcast. They're everywhere. They're just trying the most.

They couldn't even finish their podcast on Spotify. I just don't consider him bald. You know what I mean? Bald is like, who's bald bald? Like Vin Diesel. Vin Diesel, The Rock. So Prince William pushed Vin Diesel down to number two. He took the number one spot.

Vin Diesel number, oh, come on. Come on. I'll give you the full list. So number one is Prince William. Number two is Vin Diesel. Three, Jason Statham. Number four, Samuel L. Jackson. Oh, okay.

Yes, definitely him. Number five is Jeff Bezos. He's in that magazine where I have the picture of Jeff Bezos in Vogue. Is he in Vogue? Yeah. He probably owns the magazine. Yeah, right. He got himself on the list.

Jeff Bezos is kind of daddy, actually. Is he in there? Yeah, there's Jeff Bezos. Oh, wow. They actually said that that is probably what pushed him to number five yeah this is a hot photos people said it looks like uh ai or something like that it looks super hot who's the woman that he's engaged to i don't know oh she she used to be a reporter oh and i think he cheated on his wife with her that was like the most expensive divorce

in the world how much 60 70 billion dollar yeah he was the richest man in the world until that divorce do you think they could buy the weekend to perform at their wedding a hundred percent yeah they probably own the weekend because it's like three billion streams i wonder how much he would charge for the probably a couple million but like dubai got beyonce to perform for how much i forgot how much what do you mean dubai the country of dubai like a hotel in dubai i wonder how much i know i think i don't know why i think it was like five million yeah that's a good thing too yeah my chemical romance was five million for our wedding someone told us that's crazy well some people never do it so they put price really up high and we just pay $5 million for like a more romance. Oh man, I would have married Jeff Bezos.

Dang. When did he become single? That's crazy. Seven, 70 million. Honestly, that's what I'm saying. If you're happy,

not even for 70 million, would I cheat? Would I, would I, if he offered me $70 million to have one night stand with him, I would say no. Yeah.

I just, I don't know. I think you have to be like out the door. It was billion. Huh? Billion. 70 billion. Yeah.

I guess maybe for 70 billion, I guess. For one night guess for one night really of course not for 70 billion dollars yeah because it's not that's wild babe hey once you set a prize okay but it's a one night there's a movie like this it's called indecine proposal it's with demi moore and woody harrelson robert redford offers a million million dollars for one night with her it's like in the 80s. And she does it. And I don't think they even have sex, but it like ruins their whole marriage and they

can't get over it or something. You know the joke, like he tells you that you're going to get 70 billion, then it happens and then he gives you 10 bucks. And you're like, what's that? No, we get it before. The guy, Robert Redford gave him the million up front. No, they give you 70 billion in our account? No.

Wow. No, because what's the point? I mean, 70 billion is a lot. I get like a million. Okay, now. But then a family is much greater than that. But we wouldn't lose each other. You're like, you're supporting it.

You're like. Oh, no, I'm not supporting it. That's what I'm saying. For 7 million, I'd be like, oh, you can do whatever. Like if someone wants to pay you for one night. I wouldn't go. What? Because I think you think that, but then you will feel differently after the fact.

No, if someone gave you 70 billion for one night with Ariana Grande, I'd be like, okay, do that. Like, we'll be fine. We're going to be more than fine. We're going to travel the fact. No, if someone gave you $70 billion for one night with Ariana Grande, I'd be like, okay, do that. We'll be fine. We're going to be more than fine. We're going to travel the world. That's crazy. What about you? $70 billion?

Yeah. I think if I have a number, it's $70 billion. Yes. I think most of this is bullcrap. I think it's never going to happen, but you're not real. I am real. I don't believe it. Because it doesn't matter.

Because it could be $1 billion. It could be $70. It could be $1 million. If I was single, I would do it for like a toaster. I would do it I am real. I don't believe it. Because it doesn't matter. Because it could be one billion. It could be 70. It could be one million. If I was single, I would do it for like a toaster. I would do it for a question. Oh, me too. For sure. Nothing.

We'll give you a rug. I'm yours. Yeah. Oh, good callback. I was like, hey, rug. That's wild. Well, good for this woman. She also looks age appropriate, which I like.

She also looks like she's about his age. I always think he could go for someone like super young and stuff like that. So we love this. Yeah, he's in this. Nicki Minaj is on the cover of Vogue oh we finally have it looking like i was looking for the gq one with kim kardashian but i don't think that's out yet oh the man of the year oh that's another thing everyone was tagging me in because everyone thought she copied you with that wait what was it when she had like the suit on and like the her hair back wait what was it

copying me because it was very much like sad boy vibes oh interesting, interesting. And she was eating like a bag of Cheetos. I'm like, Kim Kardashian does not eat Cheetos. And I would eat Cheetos. Oh, interesting. Thank you. I love that people think that. She is copying me. I saw it a million times.

Like, this is so Trish-coded. Everyone was tagging me in that cover. I mean, being man of the year as a young woman is very Trish-coded for sure. And I was kind of like, okay, Kim has never been mask presenting. I definitely mask present in my band. And I love that. But yeah, it's kind of weird. I know that is kind of weird, right? Like she's

Man of the Year. She doesn't, she's not even non-binary so it's like she does, I consider myself both. I could go by she, her, they, them, he, him you know, but like he doesn't, no she doesn't here I am calling her she. She doesn't even go by he, him. So what's the point? I know. It was giving stunt for sure. It's giving stunt and I don't like it.

I'm so over the Kardashians. Keep watching them. I can't wait for the show to be over because I keep watching their show and every week it's Tristan Redemption Arc. Every week. Can we stop? Like he's not a good dad. Period. He's not a good dad. Like why are they pushing that? That's so weird. They finally acknowledged his other son in the baby

that was born right before Khloe's in this last episode. Khloe's like, you know, our son is here. Your other son is here. I was like, oh my God, they've never acknowledged that baby before. And that poor baby won't have a dad. It's like so sad because if he's a great dad, he should be involved in that child's life too. And if he bought a house in Palm Springs with Chloe, he can afford it. They drive me nuts.

And I watch it every week and they drive me nuts. And then you just hear about Kim Kardashian complaining, oh my God, I'm so busy. I'm like, you don't have to take on American Horror Story. You don't have to take on all these things. Like you literally don't. You literally could just run Skims and be with your kids every day. But the people complain that they're busy all the time. It's like, no, but you choose to be busy. Like it's, I don't know. It drives me nuts. It drives me nuts on no end. It's just like so weird. Like Skims is like billions

of dollars. She could just do that and be, it's it. But she's like, I have to do American Horror Story and I have to do that. I was like, no, you don't. I don't know, but we love Queen Nicki. Nicki Minaj, Pink Friday Volume 2, out now. She's gorge. I would love to have her on the podcast and do a play date with her. That's the goal for 2024. Gorge. Or even just December when the album's out.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wait, it's not out yet. I thought I heard a song. Oh, no, no, no. She pushed it back. Okay, just kidding. Pink Friday Volume 2 is not out.

So thank you for that correction. Who's this person? This person looks familiar. Oh, Anya Taylor-Joy. Who's that? She's an back. Okay, just kidding. Pink Friday Volume 2 is not out. So thank you for that correction. Who's this person? This person looks familiar. Oh, Anya Taylor-Joy. Who's that? She's an actress. Oh, an actress. Really?

What's she on? She looks so familiar. She was on The Queen's Gambit, that chess show on Netflix. Is she British? She's the voice of, yeah, I think so. Oh, no. Actually, she's like Argentinian or something. Who's that?

She speaks Spanish. That's just a model. I feel like we should just do a page where you're just like, who's this person? Because you literally know everybody. Mariah Carey was in LA last night. I wanted to be there. I feel like we should just do a page where you're just like, who's this person? Because you literally know everybody. Mariah Carey was in LA last night. I wanted to be there. I didn't know she was performing. The Hollywood Bowl.

Yeah. I'm in Mariah Carey era right now. Someone told me I look like her and I can't unsee it. Yeah. I think so. I mean, she's obviously a lot thinner than me. But I mean, I love Mariah Carey. I'm a stan.

She's so pretty. You have similar energies. Wow. That's amazing because I have no talent and not half the money as her. She was at the Hollywood Bowl. We missed it, Oscar. I know. Did you know she was going to be there?

No, I didn't know. She had a Vegas residency for Christmas. Does she always do one? I don't know. I saw her once for – I did see her once. Yeah. I saw her with Jeffree Star.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was kind of in the back, but I was there. Anyways, I don't know if I can say that name. I know. But I don't know. I'm scared. Don't come for me.

I just saw a picture of shane and uh shane was in a picture with jeffrey recently and he looks like he is on the ozempic or just skinny maybe he's lost weight allegedly yeah in my opinion but you know there's a face there's a and it's not a bad face of god i wish i had a ozempic face but it was you know it's very like there's like lines it's very ozempic did you see sharon osborne's she's like saying there's like lines. It's very Ozympic-y. Yeah, like sculptors. Did you see Sharon Osbourne? She's like saying she's under 100 pounds because of Ozympic. Now she's warning everyone. Well, she's also a lot older too.

I think she was already like tiny before she started Ozympics. Don't just go on and lose like 10 pounds. Like what? You're crazy. I know. I know. People do that. They're like the Kardashians do, allegedly, if they're on Ozympic.

But it's like all these people do it, the housewives. I'm like, you're already so skinny. Like don't do it. I can't do ozempic because i'm pregnant but i like to dream about it you know what i mean also snapchat okay like highlighting people being pregnant can you okay i try to start a new snapchat today like just trish or something like just like it won't even let me start a new account because it just like knows they're like no you're banned and i was like so snapchat please unban me and also like i'm pregnant now don't be click i see people clickbaiting their pregnancy, like fake

pregnancies. They, like, really favor pregnant people on Snapchat right now. So, and both of our guests that are coming up in the next couple weeks, they're both on Snapchat. They're both getting paid money to be on Snapchat. I'm just like, wow. And they're ripping clips of the show. I'm putting them on No. Yes. It's like in one of the, like, news channels. It's like

Trisha reacts to Eugenia. I'm suing. I'm suing. if you don't put me on their snapchat like what that's wild the thumbnail is you it's like a random screenshot of you and then a photoshop of eugenia oh my okay ew can they do that i don't know because they banned me i tried to start one for the podcast today i think it was like just trish potter something i was gonna start and they wouldn't let me like i was good creating a whole new account everything i tried on a different phone and it was just like no like sus like whatever i was just like they if they don't allow you they shouldn't let other people use your

content yeah no i will i will sue for that that's um yes okay that's like you can't do that especially if you don't like let me on your platform like that's wild and they're making money off of it because it's a news thing everyone's making money off snapchat so no and everyone's clickbaiting their pregnancy i saw jojo was clickbaiting that she was pregnant and stuff like that. And it's like, I don't think people realize, and I'm sure Jojo doesn't, of being like how insensitive it is to like pretend that you're like pregnant or especially clickbait that for reviews because it's like, just people who struggle with like infertility and stuff like that or just in general, it's just like, it's just so, I don't know. It's just like buried in bad taste. And so the fact that Snapchat's like

promoting these people, like there's another guy, I don't know who it is on Snapchat. They're always like post pictures of like pregnant bellies and stuff because it's, I don't know how Snapchat works anymore. I just know if you like post like a photo, they keep it to the end. So people have to like click through or something. I don't know.

I don't get it. I'm not bitter, but honestly don't use my shit on Snapchat because that's some, that's messed up. First of all, it takes a lot. We produce it. We paid people to produce it.

Like it's a fuck, it's a whole thing. Like I don't like that. Especially if you can't even get on there yourself. That's what I'm saying. TikTok does clips all produce it. Like, it's a whole thing. Like, I don't like that. Especially, yeah, if you can't even get on there yourself. That's what I'm saying. TikTok does clips all the time. Okay, fine. Whatever.

Promotion. I'm on TikTok. I can see it. But Snapchat won't even let me on. Like, that's crazy. And I'll tell you why. It's like one time, like, I posted a link tree that had my, like, you know, my OF link over there.

And I had no idea. But they banned me, like, from one thing. And I was like, I would never obviously do that again. But, oh, wild. Anyways. Are we done with the baldies? Are we done with the baldies? Are we done with the baldies? I mean, hmm.

I'm trying to think of a bald guy I find attractive. I was trying to think that too. The only one I can think of is Harry Styles because he's bald now, but. Do we know why? He just buzzed his hair. Are you sure? We may not know the truth. You know, Zac Efron came out later on about the truth about his face.

Hmm. I swear there's a bald person I like. Who's a bald guy I like? I don't know. Did you like John from Lost oh yeah did you like him oh yeah that's why

I was a bald cap of him I do love John from Lost he's so cute I would love anyone from Lost on this show there's some random people lately I went on the show Adam Lambert I went on

I've seen him do you know him Adam Lambert yeah do you know him oh no like to get on him on the show no

okay well you said yes so casually like yeah of course I know him I love him oh my god I love Adam Lambert I would Like to get on him on the show. No. Okay, well you said yes so casually. Like, yeah, of course I know him. I love him. Oh my god, I love Adam Lambert. I would love to get Jonathan Taylor Thomas on. I would love to get J.C. Stodze on. You know, the usual suspects, Bebe Rexha, Ice Spice,

Nicki Minaj. Those are my manifestations. Britney, I'd still love on. She's out in public now. But Adam Lambert's great. I'm obsessed with him right now because he's like queen and everything. Yeah, I know him. I'm surprised you don't. Know him personally? Yeah.

You're gay. Don't all gay people know each other? Remember there was a thing. I used to be like that when I was 20. I would literally like meet a gay person. I'm like, you should meet my friend who's also gay. Like I would just like, it was wild. I just think people are like that.

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Right, right. So I was like, you should be my friend. He's also gay. I'm like, no, thank you. The gays came for you on YouTube. Did you see that? No, for what? No. Oh, my bitch didn't even tell you. I don't want to trigger you. Oh, God. But I'm glad you didn't see it. The drama channels, the gays, the gay drama channels. Oh, them I have no qualms with.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. They were coming for you. I was like, oh, no. And you were the thumbnail. And I was like, oh, my God. I don't really have any qualms with that. Like, at the end of the day, I am an Emmy. So all is good over here.

You have an Emmy. And I have a turkey. So all is well. And i know it's hard work to like have a channel like that and to produce that kind of content but for every influencer like if you can't take criticism to see what stuff that you can do better or that you can improve on then that's like a you kind of problem no it's definitely like it's also like they can be very personal and i love like okay i love nick and dustin like i do i've known them like i i really do like them i think they're good but they flip-flop by me all the time more

so Dustin flip-flops me all the time he like hates me and then likes me and I always feel like with you it's like it's almost like an extension to like talk about me but like I'm not being problematic anymore so they're like let's go for Oscar and I always find it and I'm not saying like all gays need to love each other but I always find it interesting it's like women on women hate it's also like the gay on gay hate like they you know I know when I talk about this all the time, cause I think it's like the most bizarre thing when they had the real gay friends of West Hollywood. Do you remember that show? And it was Todrick. So everyone just like hated on it. They were just like, Oh, it was after RuPaul on like, I don't know, Paramount or something. And people were just so pissed about it.

And it was so wild. And it was gay people. The gay people were so pissed about it. But I'm like, Oh God, you should be like so excited. Like it's gay people. The gay people were so pissed about it. But I'm like, oh, God, you should be, like, so excited. Like, it's, like, this mainstream show. But because it's, like, Todrick or I don't know. Sometimes it's kind of, like, gay on gay hate is real, you know? Yeah. And I'm definitely guilty of it, too. Because with that show – I think that show there was a lot of, like, things about it. It was terrible.

It got canceled so quick. It was not good. But I guess it's fair then. Yeah. I'm like, I'm definitely guilty of it, too. Okay, okay. I wasn't even talking about – so that's funny. It's like – well, that's another thing, too.

Like, if you thought that- Who are you talking about? Let's see. What channel? What's his name? Oh. That's the one I was talking about. Oh, T.

Yeah, exactly. Which I'm letting it out. What do you have, football fans? But yeah. If you thought me calling out misogyny was about you, then you kind of outed yourself. Isn't that crazy? It is crazy. That guilt that you're like, oh, they're talking about me and stuff like that.

Like I would never assume that. Like when you said Charlie did and then like I watched and I was like, I'm looking're like oh they're talking about me and stuff like that like i would never assume that like when you said charlie did and then like i watched and i was like i'm looking at me you're like they have babies now so hopefully they change like oh like you know um yeah no it's it's you know it's fine we love we love a little promo and a little back and forth shake the table a little bit it's crazy how like the things they pick because i think there's some hot takes we have and then i'm like oh that's like kind of like not that hot of a take. But okay, I don't know. Misogyny is bad. I mean, that was a hot take.

I supported you on it. I was like, okay, I get it. Yeah, I don't know. But anyways, I thought it was interesting that you were in it. I'm glad you didn't see any of it. It wasn't even bad. I just was like, oh, man, like I know. I know when I see myself in thumbnails, I'm like, oh.

So I like – and because you're not – you jerked your first time being in drama channels. I'm like oh so I like and because you're not you jerk your first time being in drama channels I'm like oh no no I kind of figured you can't really say anything about anyone with a channel and expect like not them to not react that's of course yeah they like wait for it I used to be like that too I'm like they mentioned me it's go time you know and it can be I get it it's so yeah I get it too a lot of them I do watch like I still watch Adam I can think Adam's really great. And I watch like Spill Sesh. He came for you. Oh, did he?

I didn't see that one. He had a thumbnail for you about it. I didn't watch it. I just saw the thumbnail. I was like, oh no. Well, I still really like it. That's why I'm like, I don't know. You can be objective.

You can be, yeah. I get like that too. I feel like even if people don't like me, sometimes I'm like, oh, I still really like them. And it's fine if they don't like me. Yeah. It's all good. Things are moving along over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. That's fine if they don't like me. Yeah. It's all good. Things are moving along over here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. That's a really good attitude to have. I try to be that way too. I'm like, you know, especially doing it for so long, I'm like, not everyone's going to like me. And it's like trying to get people to like you. And of course I'm going to say like bad takes.

I'm going to say some dumb stuff sometimes. Yeah. I think I would. Not that yours was a bad take at all. I really don't think that. But I'm just, it's, but it is funny. And also how people can twist things in general. Like, you know, it's like, well, they're not – there's always an argument for something.

Their argument was like, well, they're not as close to Colleen. But like who judges who's close? I don't know. Because everyone knows everything about people's friendships. Yeah, right. Yeah. But there are guys who are very close with Colleen. I didn't say anything either.

Exactly. You know, it's not just Rhett and Link. You were saying those people. But there's like people who are like that are really close friends with her that people didn't hold accountable the way they did with Rosanna. Yeah. Which is, you know, there definitely is. We saw with Rosanna, there was a lot of misogyny just in general when it came to her talking about Mr. Beast versus like Quackity talking

about Mr. Beast. And yeah, I don't think we have Mr. Beast news this week. Oh yeah. He buried him live or something. Oh yeah. I don't know. This guy. I was like, okay.

This guy is just, what is happening? Oh my God. I don't know if I can talk about it. I guess I can. The trivia show. I don't, I don't have to give it all away. Can I talk about the questions? I guess it's fine.

Okay. So I was doing this trivia show last week, and it wasn't for air. It was like this. It wasn't for air. It's not coming out or anything like that. But there's like different people there from different walks of life, and I was like the influencer. And so there's like different categories, and one of the categories was influencers.

So they were trying to keep me to help them with influencer. Can I talk about that? I feel like I'm giving away too much away. Anyway, so they're like, oh, she's an influencer. You can help me with the influencer question. I'm like, oh my God, yes, I got this for sure because of the categories I didn't know. So I was like, yes, I'm going to ask if you know.

So Mr. Beast was the thing. It was just like, Mr. Beast is the number one subscriber with 211, or number one most subscribed to your channel, 211 million subscribers. Who's the second? There's multiple choice. Do you need the multiple choice or do you know? Yeah, I need the multiple choice.

You wouldn't even have us guess. No. A, Dude Perfect, B, Cocoa Melon, or C, PewDiePie? Oh, that's hard. I don't think it's PewDiePie. Okay. Is it Cocoa Melon? Wow.

Yeah, and I didn't get that. I said PewDiePie. Mine was not even a flinch. I was like, PewDiePie's always been number one. Like, obviously, Mr. Beast Pax. Like, to me, it wasn't even a question. I was like PewDiePie has always been number one. Like obviously MrBeastPax. Like to me it wasn't even a question. I was like definitely not doing perfect. Like what has that even – that's like saying Trisha Paytas up there.

I was like no one's going to think that. But I – and we watched Cocomelon and also I was just like Cocomelon is more than PewDiePie? Because I just knew that there's a lot of kids channels in like the top. So by process of elimination. Oh, man. I made myself look real dumb. Everyone's like here's the influencer coming to save us. And was like got it you guys wrote it so fast i was so confident i was like i was watching in the days where um coco melons was passing pewdiepie so pewdiepie

would talk about it a lot and he had a yeah did you know that there was a whole he had a whole beef with coco melon and make some of these songs and all kind of stuff like that so i used to watch at that time so that's why i knew i didn't remember that at all kind of stuff like that. So I used to watch it that time. So that's why I knew. I didn't remember that at all. Like, I was like, how did you know that? Like, never knew. But just always assume any kid's content is going to be number one. That's wild.

I was like, dang, okay, Coco Melon. But I was, I caught, I never felt dumber. I was like, man, this was like my category to shine. And I knew all the other questions. And then that one, I just flopped hard. But there was one that you did the weekend was on there that the spotify it was a spotify who had the most streaming and it was just random that i saw corrected them they didn't even correct them they had ed sheeran it was like ed sheeran

pink travis scott and i'm just gonna go with like ed sheeran but like it is the weekend because i literally saw on x literally the day before for some weird reason the like top three it's the weekend i share i don't know who the third was, but I remember seeing that and I was like, so I corrected them and they had to switch it, but I did. I felt so smart in that moment and that's when everyone was like, this is the girl to beat. And so when I got my own category wrong,

I was like, oh my God, I was doing so well. But the weekend was the answer and I was very excited. It wasn't even up there, I had to correct them. I would love Azalea Banks on the podcast if you want to come on. I would love to be on Snapchat. Oh, speaking of Dream Guest, we need to get Gypsy Rose on. Do you know how to contact her? on the podcast if you want to come on. I would love to be on Snapchat. Oh, speaking of Dream Guest, we need to get Gypsy Rose on.

Do you know how to contact her? No, don't. Oh, come on. I don't have Gypsy Rose. Yeah, she's trying to do a first interview out of prison. Well, yeah, of course, but. I think she could do it here. I would be so good to interview her.

You really would. I know everything about Gypsy Rose's case. Everything. I support. I kind of support her. Did I say that that i don't know okay because look here's the thing like her story is why you know all of it the details not all i know it fairly well but not in and out it's wild when i was reading more stuff it's like i've read

the p diddy case i read like all freaking 37 pages that like when i read all this stuff i'm like it is so wild like you have a child and you're like making them like sick on purpose you're like you're you're like promoting it as like my child's getting ahead by making your child sick is like crazy to think she couldn't like walk. Like, could you imagine making your child think they can't walk? Like you're just so stunted mentally. Like she's like a grown adult thinking she's like this child who like can't, she's, she can't walk. She's sick. It's all stuff. It's like, that's such a, I don't know. That's like a form of child abuse. I have to think like, you know what I mean? And like a really crazy sick form of it because the mom's benefiting off of that on top of

it. It's not even like, I guess it's a sickness. You know, there's sickness for people who like beat their children, of course. But then this is like a whole other level where she's like going public with it and doing like, I don't know. It's, I don't know. I, what do you do when you're a child that's being abused? What do you do?

And when the system fails you and stuff like that, when you try to like ask for help and seek ways out of it and they don't, like, how do you get out of that as a child stuff like that when you try to like ask for help and seek ways out of it and they don't like how do you get out of that as a child I know do you know what I mean like I just think

the children children usually can't fight back and she was obviously an adult when she was older but it's like when this happened but it can only take so much I don't know

it makes me so upset and I'm just like I'm all about the Gypsy Rose interview I think Dr. Phil did it very poorly and I think that I could do it a lot better

because he did one when she was like in prison and stuff like that but I feel like she's also like this he did one when she was like in prison and stuff like that. But I feel like, and she's also like this hopeless romantic. She's like getting married in prison and stuff like that. And I don't know.

I just think she has like her head on. I know. And she's a Swifty. I know that. Oh yeah. No, she wanted to meet Taylor Swift. That's her dream. Maybe meet Taylor Swift.

Oh my, that's true. I guess she's trying to meet Taylor Swift out of prison before me. I don't know. I think Taylor's busy for her. I think I might have a better shot. We're a good start. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's wild. I think I might have a better shot. We're a good start. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's wild. I love that she's a Swifty. How old is she now? I wonder.

I have no idea. She must be like 30 or something. And I watch the movie. I know so much about that case. I'm not a true crime person, but in this way, I'm kind of like, yeah, at some point you're just so, you're almost held captive. And it's like, what can you do? I don't know. I don't know. And people fail you and our police, whatever it is, just And it's like, what can you do? I don't know. I don't know. And, like, people fail you. And, you know, our police, whatever it is, like, just in general, please don't protect you. Like, I'm not anti-police. But they just don't do a lot.

No. Especially with, like, kids. It's all very – I mean, we hear about it literally all the time. All the time. Yeah. They just don't do anything unless something is – like, unless you, like, attempt to, like, unalive your child. And they're like, maybe they'll step in. Maybe.

Or maybe they won't. They'll be like, it's fine. Whatever. They look the other way. I don't know. I think there's just so much more. Also,

Trish, I'm actually going to write a book. I always just think there's like so much more to the story that we see, you know what I mean? It's very like, obviously it was probably

a lot more. Yeah. And also, there's probably a lot of trauma that she blocks out, blocks out, you know, stuff that happened

that she can't even like recollect or recall. But everyone was tweeting that I should have her on and I was like, okay. I would love that. Get her on.

Like, I would love, We're not really good yet at getting these exclusive guests, but you know. We had an exclusive Shoddy Bay interview, so I feel like maybe we'll get another exclusive. We got our Friends with Benefits exclusive in the BBL, so we're trying here. We're trying for these exclusives. If you

guys know, let us know. We'll give you a $500 referral fee if you get us Gypsy Rose. Yes. We'll give you a $500 referral fee. Did you us Gypsy Rose. Yes. We will give you a $500 referral fee. Did you see the Pokimane drama? Oh. The cookies. The cookies.

What'd you say? Oh, cookies. Cookies. I said pookie. I was like, who's pookie? What? I know. I wasn't going to comment on this because this is another like, I don't like to tear

women down. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm like, I don't. No, I'm not going to tear it down. But in general, I think like, okay. Okay. Do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like, okay. There's definitely misogy not going to tear it down. But in general, I think like, OK, do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like, OK, there's definitely misogyny in this case for sure. For sure.

For sure. I mean, yeah. The only thing is, OK, I'd like to be like fair on all accounts. But like in general, I like a woman, you know, if a girl has a bad take, I try to look the other way. I'm just like, you know what I mean? And not about the cookie prices. I think the cookie prices are totally fine.

But, you know, the one where she's calling everyone broke like if you can't afford them you're broke i mean kind of a serve but also like me with like my $200 tumblr is like can't afford this you're broke so i guess for context so okay so pokey means she released her own brand of cookies there's already drama with the cookies which i didn't know about before the broke and cost situation this is at their private label so everyone's like these aren't her cookies and it's like yeah it's like the coffee like none of these are anything they just put their name on it which is like business whatever but um pokey main and her company have said that it's like they a formula that they've developed themselves for the cookies and they're not just like a rebranded product so there's already that drama ahead of it and then yeah the price for a four

pack is 28 or seven dollars per pack is what it comes out to. And so she was getting a lot of heat about that pricing. And then on a stream on Twitch, she said, oh my God, when people are like, oh my God, $28 for cookies. It's four bags. That's $7 per bag. I know math is hard when you're an idiot, but if you're a broke boy, just say so. Which I thought was, I don't know.

I guess I'm so biased. Yeah. I laughed. I thought it was funny. Okay. Well, I don't think we're supposed to use the I word anymore. I think that's like offensive. Oh, is that offensive?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In general. So I was like, oh, when people say that, I cringe a little bit. But okay, first of all, yeah, the prices are like people, when they're like complaining about prices, yeah, like don't buy them then. Like it's also like not that crazy. Like I don't know what kind of cookies they are. I don't know how big they are. I don't know what they look like. I mean, yeah, you could go get Oreos for like five bucks. Actually, I don't know. Inflation these days, like it's like $10 for Oreos probably. So I don't know.

Plus it's like her brand. It's very niche. Like, like if you don't, if you don't like a price, I don't know why people complain about it. It's just like, don't buy it. The healthy snacks and those healthy snacks run pretty steep. Yeah. I don't mind the prices. I don't mind all that. I think that's like and I do feel like she gets a lot of hate. I don't know a lot about Pokimane. Actually, I'm like a fan. I don't know a lot about her. I'm a fan because I think she says she likes me. So I'm like, okay, I'm a fan.

I just don't watch like gaming. I think she was an ASMR person before gaming. So like, I don't know. I think she's very like cute. I know she's really popular. I do know people like just to bring down girls that are like killing it. Yeah. So I guess it's what I saw on stream. I was like, okay. But know she's really popular. I do know people, like, just to bring down girls that are, like, killing it. Yeah. So I guess it's when I saw the stream. I was like, oh, great. But like you said, it's kind of absurd, I guess.

You know? Like, if you really – I do admire people who just kind of don't care and say that kind of stuff. You know? Like, y'all are broke. But to me, it was kind of, like, obvious that she was, like, being jokey. Oh, I see. I don't know.

I don't know. Okay. And she released a Twitter statement after like confirming that she was like joking and that it didn't come across that way. It maybe comes across offensive when you're like, I know math is hard. You know, when people are like that. But it's also like imagine her like you have so many – first of all, so popular. You have like thousands of people on your chat.

Yeah. Like there's thousands of people saying a lot of things about you like I can imagine. I just know I've learned like being defensive is, the worst thing you can do in these situations. Like, lean into the job or ignore it or something. Because it's like, like, I've sold overpriced things and stuff like that. It's just like, I don't know. People will pay. People will pay, honestly.

People will pay for, you know. Crumble cookie. Like, crumble cookie is like $5 a piece. Those are some big cookies. Those are huge pies. And here it's like, it's personalized and shipped to you. So it's $7 a piece. I know, not that. Like, people would probably pay $50 for big cookies. Those are huge pies. Here it's like it's personalized and shipped to you. So it's $7 a piece. I know, not that.

Like people would probably pay $50 for her cookies. You know what I mean? There's people who pay a lot of money for shit. She said, well, what I said was 100% intended to be a joke. I see why it came off as insensitive and I apologize for that. Okay, we like that. I also understand the current price of the cookies may be expensive for some and will promise we'll continue to consider pricing to keep Mina,

which is her brand, as affordable as possible. That's a good response. Yeah. I love an apology. Like I love, I love an apology when people can do it. Like even this may be hot take controversial, even if it's not like sincere, right? I love that someone can like apologize because like acknowledging the fact that they like hurt people or like, you know, people took it some type of way.

Cause maybe there was a fan that like really wanted the cookies and they're like too expensive and she just called them broke and you're just like oh you know what I mean even if that wasn't your intention like I like when people can like apologize or acknowledge that they came across in like a bad way or something you know what I mean or apologize to people they've hurt because I feel like that happens a lot um yeah and I think she does again from what I've seen because it's like I'm such a far person with her I just don't know that much about her I do see she gets like a ton of hate a lot in general so I don't know if that's just because she's a girl and a streamer or she could be annoying I just don't know that much about her. I do see she gets like a ton of hate a lot in general. So I don't know if that's just because she's a girl and a streamer or she could be annoying.

I actually don't know because I don't watch. But, you know, I think girls on the internet just get hate way more in general. Yeah. Especially gaming. Like that is a whole. True. Like Twitch. Twitch I don't get at all.

I don't. Yeah. I feel for any like female streamer on Twitch because it is just so like dominated by, like, it seems like a boys club, you know, and, like. Definitely. Well, I think Hasan came to her defense. I saw that. But then I think, who's that guy? I always see him. Oh, I know exactly.

Moist Critical. Okay. Penguins. I don't get it. Is his name? Wait, how many names is there? That's what I don't get. I'm so confused.

Someone's like, oh, it's Penguins. Oh, it's Moist Critical. Oh, it's Charlie. And I was like, how many names? I was like how many names and why how many like what's he on youtube is his name what's his youtube name penguins zero i think penguin zero but why does he get the name most critical moist critical i think because you i don't follow him like hardcore so i definitely could be wrong but i think it's because he has like he rates everything on like a moist meter i don't hate the word moist but like why are you rating things as a moist meter? That's so weird.

I don't know what the background of why he does it. He's moist critical. But I've watched him like – I see him a little like here and there. He also astounds me because imagine if like your drive-thru videos, no editing, got like 5 million views in an hour. Yeah, he's like in this dark room with like a yellow lighting and I'm like, what? Like people will live for him. 5 million views. Not even a day his Pokemon video had like 5 million views in an hour. Yeah, he's like in this dark room with like a yellow lighting and I'm like, what? Like, people will live for him. Five million views. Not even a day his Pokemon video had like five million views. I was like, this is

wild. About the cookies? About the cookies, yeah. Because I think I saw, the boys were fighting on TikTok. I think Hasan was reacting to Charlie's video about it and he was like mad because he think he got, like, I guess, moist critical. I don't know. And then Hasan's like, you're not just the average viewer. You're a creator. You know what goes on behind the scenes. I didn't really get his point. I'm kind of dumb. I don't really know. But like, I guess, Moist Critical, I don't know. And then Hasan's like, you're not just the average viewer. You're a creator. You know what goes on behind the scenes.

I didn't really get his point. I'm kind of dumb. I don't really know. But, like, I didn't really get his point either. He was just mad at Charlie. And I was just like, wait, I thought they would be on the same side. I don't know. Like, but Charlie was calling him out.

But I don't know why. Do you know any of that context? No. I saw the video and I was so confused why Hasan was mad. And I don't know. In general, I just, like, I think Twitch people who are on Twitch all day, like, you know, Megan Bank, love that for you. But also, like, maybe you're just doing, like, too much. Like on Twitch all day, like Megan Bank, love that for you. But also like maybe you're just doing like too much.

Like get offline for like a little bit. You know? Because they get so mad about little things. They fight about everything. And I'm just like I don't even know if this is that big of a deal. Moist Critical is talking about the cookies. Talking about Hasan reacting to the cookies and then Hasan is reacting to that. I was like there's too many reacting videos happening.

There's so much. Like just breathe. Just get off Twitch for a minute. I don't know. Just in general. I don't know which community is going to come for you. Most probably. Don't put that in. Because he always tells me like these fan bases will come for you for a minute. I don't know. Just in general. I know nothing about Twitch. Twitch can be a spot I can come for you most probably. Don't put that in. Because he always tells me, like, these fan bases will come for you.

I'm like, I don't know. With any platform, just, like, kind of speak your piece. Then you kind of just have to, like. Let it go. Just drop it. Drop the mic. Be like, I'm putting it out. That's like.

With these, I kind of do. I do the live chats. And I kind of just, like, don't look ever again. I'm like, dude, I said what I said. You know? Like, that's it. Apologize later for whatever. I was just like, in general. In general, I think we have good takes. I don't know. I think so, too. I'm like, dude, I said what I said. That's it. Apologize later for whatever. I was just like, in general, I think we have good takes. I don't know.

I think so too. I don't see drama channels coming for us too much. With us, I feel like we're always willing to learn too. That's the thing. I always say, if you're stuck in your ways and then if people are in a respectful way, calling out and be like, oh, this is a bad take, then I'm always willing to shift.

Definitely. When I said stay-at-home moms are harder than working moms, and then so many people are like, this is a bad take, then I'm like – Definitely. I'm always willing to shift, you know? Definitely. Oh, like, when I said, like, stay-at-home moms are, like, harder than working moms, and then, like, so many people are like, I work at a hospital all day, and then I have to come home, and I'm still single. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I get it. Like, I can – like, yeah, shifting the point – the viewpoints are important. Because the more people, like, watch, the more perspectives you get, and everyone's perspective is, like, valid.

So it's, like – I love it. I do love that. As long as you're willing to, like, learn and stuff. But a lot of people aren't. They just kind of, like, hit a wall. Yeah, it's wild to me. I know. I was like as you're willing to like learn but a lot of people aren't they just kind of like hit a wall yeah it's wild to me

I know I was like but that Moist Critical Man he gets so many views so many views I don't understand it but I respect it the reason I discovered like I remember like

looking up like a car chase video and he reacts to car chases what? and I was like is that his thing what is it is the thing his Twitch? I see him on YouTube

but like does he post his Twitch videos on YouTube? we probably sound like so out of touch I don't know I have no idea to me I feel like he post his Twitch videos on YouTube? We probably sound like so out of touch. I don't know. I have no idea. To me, I feel like he's doing a nine-hour stream and then putting like an hour on YouTube or something. I don't know.

I've seen him do like little reviews. I think you're right. The car chase one I think was on Twitch and he clipped it for YouTube. But I've seen him do like YouTube reviews specifically for like different movies or stuff like that. I'm sure everyone in the comments is like, these old geezers. I don't know. I literally don't know. I just know Adam and Eve, like, sponsored him once because they were, like, telling

me, oh, like, we – because he just talks about it. He doesn't do the reviews like I do. And so that's why – they're like, oh, like, look how he does – like, they were talking about, like, maybe just doing a – it was for ASMR, like, something where you just give a shout out and not show the toy or something. And like, oh, look at penguins. And I'm like, who is this person? But he was getting so much.

I was like, dang, I wonder how much he gets paid. He probably gets paid a lot. But yeah, that's yeah that's wild i mean we love i don't know this kind of thing to me is like i'm so far removed from it like i don't know yeah i don't know much about pokemon but i always see like so much misogyny and stuff around her like yeah i remember there was a thing where people were upset that she said that she had that she pays someone to like remove negative comments or like negative stuff in her Twitch or whatever. Like, oh, you make so much money that you can pay someone to do that.

But then it's like all these guys. So many moderators. I see XQC, which respect, like, no, hey, but it's like, I'm gambling $3 million. I just lost $10 million gambling, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And everyone's like, yeah, XQC. Like, what the hell?

I know, I know, no. It is such a double standard, and that's so annoying. And it's also like, people are so concerned. Oh, she's making money. It's a woman making money. Oh my God, we gotta tear it down. $20 is like, at the end of the day, it's such a double standard and that's so annoying. And it's also like people are so concerned. Oh, she's making money. It's a woman making money. Oh, my God. We got to tear it down. $20 is like at the end of the day is like not that much of cookies.

And also like if she sold her cookies for $100, like that's her margin. She can get that. Like it's so – it is bizarre. Yeah. I don't know. People are really – I don't know. I'm a Pokimane fan. Mostly because she's a girl.

We're going to eat your cookies. We'll eat your cookies, Poki. Pokimane. What a name. Yeah, we should get them. Put that on the list, Moses. Actually, I have the list. He just has my phone, so I usually put things on the list. We should get those cookies for sure. I wonder

what Mr. Beast sells his Feastable chocolate for, because I'm sure that's absurdly priced for a chocolate bar. It's true, yeah. Anyway, we can circle back to Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast, because I would love to know. I bet he sells his for, I bet they're $17 for one chocolate bar. He sells it at Walmart. At Walmart?

$169. Oh, damn. Wow. What a price tag. Yeah, because they're like in the department stores on the shelf, you know. $1.69? That's the cheapest chocolate I've ever seen. Oh, his cookies are $4.50.

So they're not like that much more than, I mean, that much cheaper than. For one cookie? For one pack of cookies. I would sell my cookies for $100. Guys, just saying, like, you know what I mean, that much cheaper than. For one cookie? For one pack of cookies. I would sell my cookies for $100. Guys, just saying, like, you know what I mean? Like, if you can, you can. I don't know. I'm sure I've sold something for really expensive before.

I think my Zap Boy hoodies were like $100, although we did get scammed and we had to pay like $90 per hoodie. But anyways, it's hard. It's hard to be a businesswoman out here. That's true. A Pokemon, I'll totally buy your cookies. I wonder if they're good. I wonder if they're bad, though, and we have to, like, lie.

We're not getting sponsored. We can lie about it. Oh my gosh. Chris Appleton, Lucas Gage. Unhappily ever after, they are divorced after six months. Fun fact, me and Lucas Gage used to text, okay? At the beginning of this year, we texted.

He's like, I love you. And I was like, oh my God, I love you. And like, I was so excited. And we were like texting. He's like, we need to hang out when I'm back in LA. I'm like, yes. And then literally like a week later,

he was like married to Chris Appleton with Kim Kardashian. I was like, oh, okay. Never heard from him again. So maybe I have a chance. Maybe now I can be cool enough, which I would love to hear the tea because I don't know. This might get me canceled. Chris Appleton's always giving me kind of bad vibes and I'm a glam girl, but like, okay, you know what? He didn't just give me bad vibes. People around to say he's not that great to his like assistants and stuff like that. So I think that's why. I think I've just always heard from people he's just like not that nice to his helpers.

You know what I mean? Yeah. And I just – I don't know. I've always kind of got that vibe anyways from him. I'm just kind of like, ugh. And when I heard them announce their engagement, I was kind of like, of course, Chris Hoplton's gorgeous. Okay.

Obviously. And he's super talented. But I don't know. It just gave me bad vibes. Did you watch the episode of the Kardashians? I did. Yeah. And the first thing Kim says is like get a prenup.

And I was like, who is she trying to protect? Was she trying to protect Chris or Lucas? I guess Chris probably has more money than Lucas because Lucas is like young. Do you remember that viral clip of Lucas? In his apartment? Yeah.

The director's just like oh my god these shitty apartments and this and that. He's like I can still hear you. He took it so that's why I really like him because he handled that so well. Totally.

He's like it's fine. That's why I need this role. I love Lucas. I love him. I love him in White Lotus. I love him in You. I hated that season of You he was on but I this role. Yeah. I love Lucas. I love him. I love him in White Lotus. I love him in You. I hated that season of You he was on, but I loved him. Yeah.

And, oh, my God, Euphoria. It was, like, wild. We watched only two episodes, and he's, like, in the first two episodes, and it was so traumatizing. He's such a good actor. I just think he's so cute. We've seen him in a lot of other things, too. He, like, randomly pops up and stuff. Yeah.

He's definitely, in my opinion, like, the hottest guy out there right now. Like, if I could pick anybody to, like, I don't know, as the it boy, he's my it boy. opinion, the hottest guy out there right now. If I could pick anybody to as the it boy, he's my it boy. He's beautiful. Gorge. Like you said, he has a good personality, it seems. He's funny. In White Lotus, his role was so good. I don't know. He's so gorgeous. I love Lucas Cage. I want him here. I didn't know that

Chris Appleton had two kids, too. Oh! So Lucas was a stepfather and he was only... Lucas was – the kids were 18 and 20. What? And Lucas is 27 or 28. Wait, how old is Chris Appleton? He's 40.

Chris Appleton is 40. Wait, and his kids are 20? 20 and 18. So he was married to a woman before. Oh. Yeah, and he had two kids. Literally, I had no idea. So I was researching this stuff and saw that.

And Chris had said, oh, yeah, Lucas is a great stepfather to my kids. It's kind of weird to say that when they're like adults. That's what I was going to say too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, yeah, Lucas is only 28. So there's only an eight-year age difference between the oldest kid. That's a weird thing. He gives me weird vibes.

That's a weird thing to say in general. Yeah, I was kind of like, oh, okay. Like how are you stepfathering them? That's so weird. I don't like the whole rhetoric though because there's because there's always jokes about like gays who like their relationships move really fast. So that was – when I first saw that they were married, I was like – Oh. I was afraid of things going south and never making fun of how long it would last.

So I felt bad about that. It's kind of obvious. Gay or straight. I think when that stuff happens so quickly, it's like it's not going to work and you're going to Vegas with Kim Kardashian for the show. Yeah. It is wild. Chris Appleton did it so fast. I guess you're in love and it's a whirlwind.

And I don't know. And it is, to add to, like, the weird, the sass Chris Appleton vibe, his other ex-boyfriends, he has a type where they are blonde and, like, kind of look like him and a lot younger. He's 40. They're 28. He's 28. Yeah. Not, like, terrible.

It's not terrible. But it is weird that they all like look very similar to him. That, and also I think when you have kids that are like closer to their age, it's always kind of weird. Like you have 20 year old kids, only because I would think in the perspective of like your kids, you know, they're like, uh, they're like our age, this person's closer to our age in general. Like, I think that's kind of weird when people have kids and they date someone closer to the kid's age.

I don't know. I just, I mean, yeah, Chris Appleton always kind of gave me weird vibes just in general. And I did that as like weird, not gay. Just so people don't come for me. Just like just weird. I don't know. The problem is when you are that hot and you're probably that hot like your whole life, like you don't get like the character building stuff. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I don't trust anyone who is that hot your whole life. That's true. Because that's like the difference between being like attractive and just being like hot, like universally hot. Yeah. And you grow up universally hot. You don't have like oh any like

humbling kind of experience yeah i feel like that was like the girl right like i feel like that with alex earl like you're just so hot and it's like it's kind of hard to like be relatable or like know what the real world's like for people i don't know and i know again everyone's like well i had my awkward year it's very different to be like awkward as like a 12 year old versus being awkward looking as like a 20-year-old. Yeah. No, for sure. Did you see – bring her up again.

Bobby Althoff. Did you see her interviewing Jessica Alba? No. And she was saying – Jessica Alba was like, I had my awkward years. And she's like, no, not compared to my – okay, she's being like a normal interviewer now. Like she's like ditched the character. And because she's talking to Jessica Alba kind of normal, she goes, no, like I had awkward years. Like my awkward years are like way worse than yours.

It was such a weird. It's just a clip because the interview's not out yet. It was just a clip. But I'm like, this is, her journey is so bizarre to me because it's like this, now she's like this normal interviewer and she looks normal. It's, I don't know. Anyways, very weird. Side note from that.

But yeah, I always feel like too when that happens, like they get divorced so quickly and it was like the day after the Kardashian episode aired. So I was like, that's like a little sus. Then it came out like Lucas cheated, allegedly. Oh, I didn't hear divorced so quickly, and it was, like, the day after the Kardashian episode aired, so everyone's like, that's, like, a little sus. Then it came out, like, Lucas cheated, allegedly. Oh, I didn't hear that. Oh, yeah, that was, like, on Us Weekly or something, and I'm like, how do people know this? Like, how do they know that information?

I like to say, I would say no. I would think he didn't cheat, but I don't know. Also, it's just, like, my, also, this is, like, probably not real. This is literally just my theory, but it's, like, I think maybe he found him attractive because he's, like, this big star, because Lucas star because lucas was like everywhere everything and the actor strike happens and he's not working anymore and then when you see someone not working and then you might be like you're a bum because chris apples is with kim like every freaking place and where so i sometimes i think like when you see someone not working you're just kind of like not attracted to them

anymore i don't know you know that makes i don't know just because it's like a whirlwind and he's obviously couldn't fall in love with him because they don't know each other yet. You know what I mean? So it was like this whirlwind romance and he's like a big actor and then like he's not working and then you're just like, eh. That happened to me. I don't want to tell this. Well, I can tell the story. It was like this guy in this like band, a really popular like singing group. And I was so excited. I found him like on Tinder and I was like, oh my God. And they're like at the Hollywood Bowl and stuff. And then like literally a month later, he's like announced that he's like leaving the group. And I was like, oh, God. And they're like at the Hollywood Bowl and stuff. And then like literally a month later, he's like announced that he's like leaving the

group. And I was like, oh, this is, no, I don't want to, you know what I mean? And like right away, obviously we weren't in love. We weren't even like, whatever. I was just like infatuated with him. But then as soon as he announced that he was leaving the group, I was like, oh my God, why would you do that? And then all of a sudden I was just like not really that attracted to him anymore.

I imagine maybe because like if Ethan Slater was on Broadway. Definitely. Oh, for sure. Like if he retired and he was just like a normal guy and no like, you know,

not on stage. For sure. I feel like that would lose some of the charm. No, yeah, he was never casted as like, because basically he's casted

as like the person that's like obsessed with Glinda. So he's like this little like, literally a munchkin in the show. He's like, he's casted as a munchkin. That's what they're called. They're from Wizard of Oz.

No, I just, I didn't know. I thought it was like a prince or something. No, literally, no. The gay guy that she was with Wimbledon is the prince. He's like Fiyero. He's the hot one. Bach is literally like a munchkin from Munchkinland that's obsessed with Glinda.

And she wants nothing to do with him. She's just like, uh, you know, no, thank you. She like keeps brushing him off the whole time. All this stuff. I think if it wasn't him in this role, like she wouldn't look at him the same. because Bach is a slay. Bach is one of my favorite characters in Wicked. He's definitely a slay. Spoiler alert. I don't know. Can I say spoiler alert? Because Wicked's been out for 20 years. He's the tin man. He becomes the tin man because he ends up dating the Wicked Witches of the West sister Nessa because Glinda's like, you should

ask Nessa out because Nessa's in a wheelchair. And she was like, that would be so nice if you asked her on a wheelchair, like, cause she wanted to go to the dance with the other guy. And so Bach's like, okay, I'll ask her out for you, Glinda, or whatever. But then they end up becoming married because he just gets – he's so sweet or whatever. And then the witch in the wheelchair finds out he was actually in love with Glinda the whole time. So then she wants to turn him into tin so he has no heart. So she turns him into the tin man. Actually, she shrinks his heart.

He's about to die. Then the wicked witch comes – not the wicked witch, the Elphaba. She comes in. Who's the wicked witch? so he has no heart so she turns him into the Tin Man. Actually she shrinks his heart he's about to die then the Wicked Witch comes in not the Wicked Witch the Elphaba she comes in who's the Wicked Witch she comes in

and she's like oh my god let me save him he's about to die because Nessa's like what am I doing because his heart's shrinking she wanted his heart to shrink so basically she's like

oh I need to turn him into Tin because that's the only way he's going to survive because he can't survive as a human without a heart so she turns him into the Tin Man so the Tin Man has no heart and the Wizard of Oz

and Bach becomes the Tin Man and so it's the Munchkin turned Tin Man and so he went from little to tall? No he's still little but he's a Oz and Bach becomes the Tin Man. And so it's the Munchkin turned Tin Man and – So he went from little to tall? No, he's still little but he's a tin. He's a little tin man.

So he's not the Tin Man in Wizard of Oz? Yeah. That's what – so it's like the origin story of the Wizard of Oz. How did he get tall? Well, that's a different actor. I know what you're saying. Well, the Tin Man just has tin. So he's –

From like Munchkin to like – He has tin on him. So I guess the tin is just has tin so he's you know he has tin on him so I guess the tin is just higher in general yeah and then Fiyero he's so dumb but he's good looking in the show and so he becomes a scarecrow because he has no brains but in order to save this all happens in Wicked it's the origin story no wonder it's

two parts my god there's lots of I know I wish it wasn't because did you see the guy from Hunger Games or the yeah the director of Hunger Games was like I kind of regret putting Hunger Games into two parts, the final one. He's like, it should have just been one because it's like a cohesive movie. And I was like, yeah, I love that. Because Rachel Zegler was on Watch What Happens Live and the Hunger Games director or something, I don't know, was there. And she's kind of – she's kind of being annoying again in these press interviews.

She's like, I don't know. Maybe it was a joke. Maybe they asked her to say this. I just saw a clip of it. So that's for my context. But literally she says, hi, I'm Rachel Zengler from The Hunger Games. Please don't ask us if Katniss is in this movie. I was like, okay, girl, chill.

Like, I get it. Like, you know, whatever. But why is she so aggressive about things? Maybe it was a joke. Maybe they asked her to. I don't know. She's being wild in these interviews. I don't know.

I think this is her personality. Like, she's just a theater kid. So I think. Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater are theater kids and they're beautiful and they're so charming. She's like, she's beautiful, not charming. I don't know. 100 Years Mimi, Rachel's like, oh, did you see it?

Yes, I did see it. Okay, see, you didn't even start with that. I feel like you would have shot like that. You loved it. I did love it. My boyfriend, though, he is a Rachel Zegler. Yeah, I guess hate her because he was like, I loved the whole movie except for Rachel Zegler.

And I was like, and I literally was just like, I shut down. I was like, I cannot take any more Rachel Zegler discourse. I just walked. I just walked to the car. Because I was loving the Houghton Games. And I was like, we're back in Pan Am. Like, where, like, everything is so good. And he's like, I loved everything except for Rachel Zegler.

And I'm like, I can't. Oh, my God. Literally the star of the movie. She's not even like, it's not even her movie, really. It's, like, the guy. Oh. Yeah, which, so it's kind of like a plot twist. Tom Blythe is his name. It's, like, the blonde guy in the posters, if you've seen the posters. Is it her boyfriend?

No, her boyfriend is a supporting. Because you heard, did you hear that she said no to The Hunger Games originally, and then they casted her boyfriend, and then she's like, actually, I'm available now. Oh, really? She told them. Yes, I saw this. I think it was, like, a woman producer or something like that. I don't know who was talking about boyfriend and then she's like, actually, I'm available now. Oh, really? She told them. Yes, I saw this. I think it was like a woman producer or something like that.

I don't know who was talking about it but she's like, yeah, we actually offered the role to Rachel but she's like, I'm too busy. I want to be with my family because she was like in Germany shooting something and then she was in like London

shooting something. She was like, I want to be with my family and then she's like, the producer or whatever or the casting person was like, oh, I didn't even know it was her boyfriend but we casted this guy and all of a sudden she got a call from Rachel

and Rachel's like, actually, I'm available and then they like gave it to Rachel. Oh, I didn't even know they were dating because I kept seeing them on red carpets like hugging and stuff and I thought they were

just like friendly co-stars and then I I think like somewhere along the lines I found out that was her boyfriend I was like oh yeah so random

very random and they were in West Side Story together oh I didn't know I didn't see that I think so I think they were in that together too West Side Story is an awful show

I have no idea I love musical theater and I cannot understand anything about West Side Story. And it's not even like just the storyline. It's like the music's bad. Like everything's just bad. That's so weird how they always end up in projects together. I don't know. That is weird.

I guess they're both singers. I don't know. Is he a singer? I have no idea. I love that people complain about too many songs. I saw that on Twitter. Everyone was like, there's so much singing. And I'm like, isn't the song, the show's like called Ballad or something?

Yeah. It's like in the title and in the book. She's singing. She's a singer in the book. Where would you rank this? Catching Fire is obviously the best movie in the world. Is that the first one? It's the second one, but it's universally the best movie out of the franchise.

This would be my number two or my number three. Oh, wow. Above. So it would be Catching Fire and then maybe Hunger Games, the first one, and then Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Wow. Or flip those two. I'm biased because I love Katniss and I love Jennifer Lawrence.

Yeah, I feel like you can't really compare. I would love Rachel Zegler on the podcast too. Rachel, this is a safe space because I literally am like, I picked her up as a client. I didn't know her. I wasn't familiar with her game, but now I get Rachel Zegler and I'm a fan. I'm a fan of Rachel Zegler. I really like him. You know her I wasn't familiar with her game but now I get Rachel Zegler and I'm a fan I'm a fan of Rachel Zegler

I really like him you like her yeah she's another one that's just very hard I'm trying I'm trying I watch her stuff

I'm like she's gorgeous she looks beautiful I love all her tributes to like Katniss outfits and stuff I think that's cool she's beautiful

she looks like a model but I get it I get why people wouldn't like her but I think that makes that pushes me to like fight for her more I get that yeah yeah this is the only thing i've seen her in so yeah

oh that's it you didn't see that i haven't seen her in literally anything else and i just followed her on twitter okay like two days ago you didn't see shazam too no didn't happen too she's like i just needed a paycheck i was like okay girl okay this is great this this brought me to another hot topic so jacob lordy has been trashing the Kissing Booth movies. Okay, what is that? I see that everywhere. It was on Netflix. Is he gay in it?

No, he's the love interest. It's like, you know, Joey King? You've told me about her before. She's Gypsy Rose in the Hulu one. Oh, live. Okay. Really? Oh, wow.

Okay. She's so good in that. But they were just teen, like rom-coms. It was Joey King. And then there's two brothers like fighting for her. Very stereotypical love triangle, love story. Okay. And then, but Jacob Elordi, when he's promoting this new movie, Salt Burn.

Oh my God. There's so many movies he's in. So many movies. Good for him. He was saying how he just did those for a paycheck and that they're ridiculous and not serious at all. Well, are they not serious? Have you seen them?

They're just like teen, young adult movies. So they are in serious adults. But teens, they're good movies. It's all perspective. Very James Charles coded with the Morphe palette. Saying it's trash. These people need to not say anything. Why do they say that?

Just stop. Don't say anything. And it's like trashing the role that made you a people need to not say anything. Why do they say that? Just stop. Don't say anything. And it's like trashing the role that made you a star. Like, it wasn't anything. This was Jacob Elordi? I would think Euphoria. He got Euphoria because of the kissing booth. So he had to start somewhere.

Oh, I see. Okay. I mean, I don't know if there's stands for the kissing booth, but why are people that sad about it? Like, he said, look, I do think it's so, like, tacky when people are like, I did it for a paycheck. Because, like, yeah. So to some people, they, like, love that.

That's, like, the whole thing. But I also think it's, like, it's a that big of a deal. It's like Twilight. Like, Rob Pattinson hates Twilight. Everyone's like, it's so like tacky when people are like, I did it for a paycheck. Because like, yeah. So to some people, they like love that. That's like the whole thing. But also I think it's like it's that big of a deal. It's like Twilight. Like Rob Pattinson hates Twilight. Everyone's like, it's cute. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? But also it's like the men that are like got to get away with it.

That's true. I think Kristen Stewart at the time, everyone was harder on her for hating Twilight. That's true. Like physically being like disinterested in it. Yeah. But for Rob Pattinson, it's like a quirky thing. Oh, we love Rob. Yeah.

We love Jacob Elordi. Well, Jacob Elordi. Yeah. Well, they're both good looking. So I get it. I mean, honestly, that's just pretty privileged. That's how it is. quirky thing. Oh, we love Rob. Yeah. We love Jacob Elordi. Well, Jacob Elordi. Yeah. Well, they're both good looking. So I get it. I mean, honestly, that's just pretty privileged. That's how it is. You know?

It is what it is. Yeah. People get away with like way more. Yeah. All right. We're back. This is the part of Just Trish that gets a little serious. Do you know what that's from?

No. You don't know what that's from? Serious. Serious. Less of a Marilyn, more of a Jackie. Serious. Is this a musical? Not too tacky. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You don't know this song? Serious. More of a, less of a Marilyn, more of a Jackie. Serious. Is this a musical?

Not too tacky. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You don't watch musicals. But it's such an iconic. It's Lily Blonde, the musical, which Christian Borle had the affair with Laura Bell Bundy, even though he was married to Sutton Foster during Legally Blonde, the musical. Anyways, this is part of the podcast where we get serious.

Serious. Oh, that was good. That was so good. You're like a singer, right? I was trying to sing a song earlier with you. What was it? I was trying to sing a song and then you weren't catching it. I don't good. That was so good. You're like a singer, right? I was trying to sing a song earlier with you. What was it? I was trying to sing a song and then you weren't catching it. I don't know.

I was singing something. I remember that I caught it late though. I forgot what it was. Oh, shoot. Anyways, okay. So there's so many – there was actually so many topics to talk about that were like kind of serious and then like I feel like just like – I don't know. There's just so much happening this week. There's so much.

I was like this is my pregnancy announcement. We can't have all the drama, all the seriousness of it. He did it, but we're like kind of scared to talk about that because he sounds scary. He like hung someone over a balcony by their feet. Allegedly to both. Allegedly to both. Yeah. Okay. Settled in 24 hours. I was like, ah. And what's this? Oh, James Charles. Yeah. Another allegation, which is like also very serious and scary. And who's the scariest of all them? Probably James Charles. James Charles? Yeah. Right?

I mean, as far as like, a menace to society? I don't know. Maybe not actually. Maybe, I don't know. Allegedly in the court documents, P. Diddy sounds a little scary, but. Yeah, I allegedly wouldn't be afraid of James Charles unless I was a 15-year-old swing.

Oh, I mean, yeah. But as far as who's going to come after us, I don't know, but. Oh, yeah. As far as who's the scariest to society. Oh, in society? Probably P. Diddy, I think. I mean, those were like serious, serious, serious allegations with Cassie.

It's terrifying. It is, especially because they were in a relationship for a really long time. She's like enduring all this alleged like abuse. Yes, alleged abuse and alleged trafficking because – you read all – you read the whole thing. I read all of it. Yeah. I was like kind of like couldn't believe it. Crazy.

It's just so outlandish. But I mean it doesn't – it kind of made sense. Like it wasn't – it didn't blow my mind because I was like, oh could see someone like him like him having these like skeletons in the closet yeah like it's it's so bizarre but to me i think of i don't know i guess i don't know pd at all i just always i don't know i think of someone like so big it's like eminem or something it's just like why would you even risk that when you have so much to lose but i think people get cocky and think oh especially when it comes to like power dynamics with the woman it's like well who's ever gonna believe the woman and he has so much money so like I feel like yeah you could just like bury her if anything well I mean they settled in what

24 hours which is like crazy all that stuff comes out and it's like I get settling because like it's a lot to go through but it's like that's already all out there it's like and if it's all if it's true even if it's like 10 true I mean that's so wild like endure like how do you not have pdsd how did she even get out of it like it's yeah and then because's true, even if it's, like, 10% true, I mean, that's so wild. Like, endure. Like, how do you not have PTSD? How did she even get out of it? Like, it's – Yeah. And then – because I remember – I just wanted to look it up, too. And there have been, like, other weird, like, shady things with Diddy, too, in the past.

Like, with different, like, ex-girlfriends and different, like, businesses and stuff. So that's why, like, it kind of, like, made kind of sense to me, I guess. But for Cassie's sake, I'm happy that they just settled. Because, like, they, like, went to trial, like, to have all – to have to rel, I guess. But for Cassie's sake, I'm happy that they just settled because like they like went to trial, like to have all to have to relive all that, all of this out there for like public consumption. Like it's such private, like embarrassing things that like, yeah, I'm glad that she doesn't have to like relive any of that stuff and she still gets money, you know?

Totally. And she got it out there, you know, it's like at least it's out there. And so it's like, it's kind of out there without having to like relive it and it's up to everyone else to like she did her part then it's up to everyone else like make sure he's like held accountable and stuff yeah no people in power with money it's like you really just can't go against them like that's what's so scary is like you just can't go against them and like yeah she settled and stuff like that but it's like does that feel is that enough for her hopefully hopefully it is you know she has like her kids and stuff and so she's just trying to like, I don't know, move on from it.

But yeah, it's hard. That's all like, I don't know. That whole thing got really dark. And so that's just like, man, this is like all really dark. And then James Charles. James Charles. I mean, another allegation,

which is like sad. To me, this is like, I won't say that Mr. Tartney, the one about Diddy was like crazy. But yeah, it's kind of, kind of sad. For which part? I don't know. Like, I just feel like for these,

I'm going to say victims or these young boys because people kind of came for the guy because he's like like i just feel like for the these i'm gonna say victims or these young boys because people kind of came for the guy because he's like oh you're saying this all so many years later but it's like you know they're like adults now and they're not as like scared as i don't know i just think it's like weird like yeah the the sending the snapchatting the butt pics allegedly to these people knowing their age and i don't know it's one of those things, like if enough people are saying these things, like. Well, there's smoke, there's fire,

and there's enough. Obviously not every person who's come out, like some people have fabricated stories with James, but this one, the receipts were so specific and from like such a specific time that it all kind of like made sense. So I don't know if anyone hasn't seen it. So a TikToker named Matthew Lawrence. Matthew Lawrence, the Lawrence brothers? No relation to the Lawrence brothers. Yeah, I it. So a TikToker named Matthew Lawrence. Matthew Lawrence.

No relation to the Lawrence brothers. Yeah, I knew you were going to say that. Love Matthew Lawrence. Said that in 2020, James slid into his DMs and said age check. Ah! I get to do the age check. Like, just don't. Don't start with that.

And the sense of entitlement to, like, just slide into a young teenager's DMs and just, like, straight up just age check. As if James Hester Shaw was just about anyone. Like I'm like, girl, girl. It's hard because like back in the day, I did want to root for James because so many – I'm like an underdog person. Like a lot of – he was very famous, but a lot of people were also against him. And I felt like there's a lot of homophobia around him too. So I wanted to root for him.

And then all this stuff comes out and you're like, I wanted – now I get Tyra. I was really wanting to believe. I wanted to believe in him. I really did want to root for him. And then all this stuff comes out and you're like, I wanted. Now I get Tyra. I was really wanting to believe. I wanted to believe in him. I really did want to believe him. And then this stuff comes out. I'm like, my God. I think what people are forgetting too is like he kind of, he didn't kind of, he admitted to this. Like he admitted to saying, yeah, I was just desperate that they were 17.

So it's like there's, there's admission. There's admission of guilt. The video's since taken down, but he admitted to this. It was just kind of like, yeah. So it's not like a speculation on if this happened. It did happen. And I think that's what people like forget, myself included. Sometimes I'm kind of like you where I'm like, enough time is.

But then I'm like, oh, no, these people were like underage. And this is my energy for anyone doing anything to people underage. Like just even if it is just age check or DMing with them or being friends with them or going out to lunch with them as an adult, like it's all weird to me. And I think it's, it's kind of an unforgivable thing, especially when these people later on are like, the guy didn't say he was like, felt uncomfortable. And I know a lot of people get mad too, if they're like, cause what kind of broke my heart a little bit about this situation too, is I'm not saying like, is like, he was saying, yeah, I know I was 16 and maybe I was, you know, egging it on or something,

you know, as far as like, you know, the 16 year old time goes,, yeah, I know I was 16 and maybe I was, you know, egging it on or something. You know, as far as like, you know, the 16-year-old at the time goes, you know, I guess I was like flirting or whatever with the Snapchats. So it's like as if they were the problem. Like they did something wrong. And it's like, yeah, at 16, I flirted with people that were 40. You know what I mean? That's not my fault. It's not on me. Yeah.

So for him to even feel that way, I was like – and, you know, I think too now, oh, the timing's suspicious. It's like, yeah, you see someone that did this that doesn't have to take accountability for something that's like pretty serious. And like also admitting to this, that he's like, yeah, I was like, I shouldn't have done that. Like, you know, I was just, you know, desperate or whatever and not really having to reap like the consequences. It's kind of prospering right now. Yeah, definitely. I think that's what the guy said too. It was like this palette, everyone, this guy you're supporting did this. And so many people I think do forget that because there's like mutuals that like hang out with him or are friends with him. And I'm pretty forgiving especially because it's me, right? Like people who are friends with me, I'm just like, yeah, you know, I've done some crazy crap in my past.

But it's like I didn't like talk to like these – and not even just talk. Like very much age check, Snapchatting, here's my butt. Yeah. So Matthew said that like after the age check he did, he had just turned 16 at the time too, which is even worse. It's November 2020. That's not even barely 18. That's just turned 16. Just turned 16. Yeah.

And he said that after he did tell James that he was 16 after the age check and James replied, oop, I'm not trying to catch a case. But then they kept talking because they kept exchanging DMs and then James had added him on Snapchat. Oh, oh, oh. And then a couple weeks later is when James had allegedly sent a picture of his ass. And then when Matthew wasn't like, you know, didn't give him a good response, he was like, well, what the hell did you do?

He said, oops, like I didn't mean to send it to you. Sorry, meant to send it to someone else. And then blocked him, allegedly. Yeah. So it was almost like true. It seems like a testing the waters kind of thing and like i'm sure if he like went into it then it would have escalated to something else allegedly but even just allegedly sending that is like horrible even after the age check like so save there he genuinely didn't know you know like and he was can make maybe the guy looks a little bit older after the age check if you've yes you know that your intention is going into it is oh i think

this boy is cute and that is why i'm asking his age you find out he's underage and you already have been freaking dragged the mud for doing this exact thing yeah you know then you're not you genuinely like have some kind of problem yeah no for sure if you said i don't want to catch a case like you know you know you know you like understand the gravity of this and it all seemed to be around that same a lot of the same time like 2020 and stuff like that that this was happening and it doesn't negate from anything i was like oh this was so long it's like no this is like no matter what 20 years from now it's still wrong this is after like because in that video he was like i'm gonna start asking people's age before i talk to them. So obviously, he knew.

So he asked the age check. And this was him trying to be better, is the gag. Yeah. The gag, this was him trying to improve himself and to move in the right direction. And it fell backwards, allegedly. So I'm like, my God. And that's why I get why it'd be frustrating for Matthew and why I want to say this. You see someone doing well.

James just had this big commercial for his palette where he was – his little heiress tour where he made fun of all his different scandals in the past. So I could see that. You're seeing someone make fun of all their past scandals and like, oh, isn't it so quirky and funny? Like I had white makeup one time, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And then he did this to you. And you're like, well, what the hell? No, for sure.

There is something to that for sure. And I think that's why people do get so upset. And it's like there's never accountability. It's a continued, again, a pattern of behavior, which is like it's not like this isolated incident. It's like it happens. And like you said, it's after he got caught the first time. And it's just like I was someone, too, that kind of like forget, you know, you kind of

over time. And then it's like, no, we kind of need to remind that this is like not a thing that's OK. Yeah. I mean, because that's like the era we're in now. I feel like people not knowing it's like not okay to be friends with minors. Like even if you're friendly, obviously this is like different, but like if you're like just stop, don't do that.

If you're 30 or 20 or something, like don't talk to 16 year olds. Yeah. So weird. It's so, especially with influencer this age, you can go hang out with influencers your own age. Like we're all, they're all young. There's legal young, there's 18 year olds, you know what I i don't know it's like i get it he's he's young but yeah and james would have been 21 at the time of this too so 16 21 that's a big big age difference yeah yeah yikes yeah i know i don't like like oh like it's just one of those

things and it's like i do know people that are mutuals with them and they really like him and I'm just like, yeah. And that's what gets frustrating too because I like the people who are friends with him. I know. And like I trust their moral judgment. Like I know they are good people. And so it is kind of like, I don't know. Like I get very – This is a hard can't be friends with, I think.

I think that's just a hard like I don't know. You can't. Like I don't know. That's so – I don't know why that's like people just kind of think it's okay and they're just like – I don't know. It is so – I don't – I want to figure out why. I guess maybe because he's still so popular. I think like Colleen became so unpopular. Right.

Like when her – all that stuff happened that it became like socially acceptable to like drop her. Yeah. People who were friends with her her like actually close friends with her but with james he's still so popular so maybe it's people are benefiting yeah and it's like oh well if he still has all these followers she still gets millions of views on tiktok then it can't be that like that's not saying that for me i'm saying like that's how i can maybe that's what other people think that are friends with him i don't know i think we'll see more come out later that's maybe worse i don't know I'm not wishing it.

But this, like you said, what's the saying? The smoky fire mountains? Oh, where there's smoke, there's fire. Yeah, I like that. I think that's a lyric to one of my songs. Where there's smoke, we'll find out. I think it's not. Anyways.

I don't know. I did not write it. So I guess someone else did. Yeah. I don't know. Honestly, bad vibes. Bad vibes. And I can't.

I just can't. I just can't. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Honestly, bad vibes. Bad vibes. And I can't. I just can't. I just can't. Like, I don't know. And I don't want to be that person. But, like, I'm laughing out of, like, nervousness because it's just, like, what is wrong with, like, these people? Like, you know what I mean? Like, that happened after? Like, don't.

Like, stop. Don't do age check. Like, you can. Maybe. Right? He got famous so young. So I feel like he kind of rose psychologically at, like, an age. Like, I feel like when he was 21, trying to talk to teenagers, he still thought he was,

like, a teenager. Like, looked at himself like a kid. Yeah. I get that, too, because I'm 30, and I don't really think of myself as 30, but I'm also not, like, trying to talk to little kids. Yeah. So, like. No, and I think with Colleen, too, I think it was kind of the same thing.

Maybe she was, like, emotionally stunted because she went to, like, Christian school, and she went home schooled, and she kind of, like, I don't know. Maybe she was, like, emotionally stunted where she thought. She was a kid. Like was kind of the same thing. Maybe she was like emotionally stunted because she went to like Christian school and she went home schooled and she kind of like, I don't know, maybe she was like emotionally stunted where she thought. She was a kid, like one of the kids. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either, but I so want, badly want to understand though. I don't think that's what like puzzles me so much. I mean, I asked Dr. Drew when he's here. I was like, why do they want to be friends with minors? Like, I honestly don't know. Like, that's a whole other thing. It's very odd. It's so weird.

Yeah. But it's also so weird that people just, like, yeah, continue to support when it's such a serious thing. I think people don't take James Charles that serious because he posts his ass willy-nilly on Instagram and, like, Coachella and everything. And it's, like, it's hard to take him serious. so maybe i think that's another element too it's like everyone's kind of like ragged on him for a long time and he's kind of like put himself out there so it doesn't seem as like threatening yeah you know because it is i'm saying like an appearance maybe that's how some people can like let it skate by because like i see an aspect of james charles and i'm not like oh yeah i'm like okay yeah yeah're like, it's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

Like, I don't know. Yeah. So he's just not as threatening. So people just, like, dismiss it. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know what to say. We got into, like, the criminal section of the podcast. We are. The true crime. We got into the criminal section. I don't even know if we want to go into the clean. I really didn't want to. I just. I mean, okay. Bad vibes there. I hate. I hate. I really didn't want to. I just, bad vibes there.

I hate, I hate, this is bad vibes. They're just bad vibes. I know. We said we don't watch the video because we're not trying to support that at all. I can't give her a review. I can't give her ad sales. I looked at TikTok clips of it a little bit and I'm just like, I don't know how to describe it, but just seeing the clips, the energy is so bad and so off. And I'm just like, I don't know how to describe it, but just seeing the clips, the energy is so bad. And so often I'm just like, this scares me. Like I'm terrified. Like she's

like, there's very few people that I feel have like malice intent. I think people say like dumb things or people don't know, but she's like, I think she has a lot of like malice behind her. Like she's very calculating. She always would say this is a long time ago and I grow in chain, but it's like, you know, just this summer, like you're lying and manipulating me to like kids under the blaming kids. And this isn't like a long time ago. This is like, how are you not embarrassed? I mean, I guess she's just trying to write everything off. So there's that.

But this is what we're talking about early about the apologizing thing. The pokey mean whatever apologizing right away is like even sometimes an insincere apology can go like a longer way, right? If she would just reach out to like Adam and be like, hey, sorry. Like there's nothing else he could say, right? There's nothing further he could say because he's like, well, he could accept it or not accept it, think it's ingenuine or disingenuine, but at least she did that and it could like move forward.

But the fact that she hasn't with him or the other one, Becky, I only know two, maybe there's more. I know there's like a list of names I saw swoop do, but there's like two prominent ones that I think of. It's like just reaching out to them and being like, Hey, like, I'm really sorry, genuine or not. And hopefully she's genuine. I doubt she is, but cause I, you know, but, but just acknowledging, cause even with me, that's the apology being like, yeah, that happened. I was just, I'm just a coward. It's like, okay, you're, you're you're you're a bad person but I guess it's some sort of closure like at least I acknowledge that oh you did do that you are a shit person thank you for that acknowledgement we can move on you know what I mean I think she like it's it's odd she

doesn't and she always says to all the people and but but doesn't especially Adam who's made 5,000 videos and again not shade that's not a shade that's like he rightfully could do a whole channel about her. But it's like clearly you know this one person that you really like affected who even said I think in a tweet like if she just like reached out and apologized, I'll just stop. Yeah. Because at that point, yeah, what can you do? You know what I mean? And that's why I didn't want to talk about it because at this point it's like she admitted to being a weirdo and sending like nude photos of me that she had of herself to these people like weirdo.

And there's this and there's that. And then she comes back and it's like as me that she had of herself to these people. Like, weirdo. And there's that. And then she comes back, and it's like, as we knew she would. A lot of people are saying for Vlogmas, which, I mean, and I would respect that more, too. She came back and was like, I need the money. I'm looking for me. I need to support my family. Yeah.

Yeah. Instead of being like, I missed you guys and this and that. My therapist told me to vlog. Girl. BFFR. Your therapist did not tell you to vlog. Your therapist said, don't go on the internet like that's what my therapist will always say to me i'm like it's my job like i need to be on the

internet there's no therapist it's like you really need to vlog right now right now the people need you they need your content oh my gosh i think she actually apologized for not posting yeah i'm like wait you apologize to those people the people that have not seen my fans and i'm just like that's not the apology. No, she's still, it's so, and that's why it just like makes me like sick. Like I didn't watch it. I saw the bits and pieces because there's no way I'm just going to watch it. It's so, so, so manipulative.

And the fact that she like either can't see it or it's just, again, it's just like all bad intent. There's no good behind it. The energy is off. She said she was embarrassed about her video. The video is still up. I was embarrassed about the podcast that I did with her. I was embarrassed that we had a three episode podcast. That was deleted in seconds and probably could get like a lot more money because of the scandal, whatever. I was like, we're deleting that. There's a relationship I was in that made me look stupid. Delete. Like I delete

if you're embarrassed. I don't know. I just, it's honestly, it's just like a black spot on me. Like this summer when all that was happening and I told her like I was sick and I truly genuinely was when all that was happening, I was like so sick. My daughter was sick and I told her in voice memo because like when I didn't respond right away, I was like, I've literally been sleeping all day. I'm so sick. The fact that she like didn't care and kept like just piling all this trauma on me, like not only affected me more like physically, but like I wasn't ovulating. My ovulation was completely off. So it's like this all happening now, like now I'm pregnant and something that I'm like, I am not about to let this toxicity, like she, she actually, like it actually angers me and I don't want to be angry because it's like the

worst feeling in the world. And like literally being angry at someone is like, what do they say? It's like drinking poison, expecting the other one to like die or something like that. Like, it's like, it angers me so much and I don't want to be angry, but so many people are in that same position. They're like so angry because there's just like zero accountability, like zero, like literally, like again, there's very specific people you hurt. It's children involved. It's like how, how are you not embarrassed? How are you just coming back on here? And I don't know. And it's like, I do feel for people like Adam, who's very vocal about this. Like, it's like to not have that, like sort of like,

Adam, I'm sorry. Like, you know, it's, it's so easy to say sorry when you've like hurt someone, whether that's your intention or not. Like you hurt a child who obviously is traumatized still to this day because it's like, again, not, there's no judgment, but it's like, yeah, you can't let it go because there's, there's, there's no closure there. You know what I mean? And it's like someone you looked up to as like this child and that you were close with as a child. And it's just like, I get angry. I get angry. And the fact that she's just back and, and I don't want to be so in my, I'm choosing truly like now truly, like I'm just trying to scroll past and I hope like she's just in her corner, you know,

with her core people watching her, like you do you, I guess. But just, I'm just hoping to fade into oblivion because this is like a person with like, she's bad. She's a bad person. You know what I mean? And I don't say that about many people. There's less than like, like I think there's maybe three people I think are like truly bad. Everyone else, I'm like, they made a mistake. They're not my cup of tea, whatever. But, And I just feel it in my physically. And for those kinds of people, I feel like, I know I've said this before, but I truly have to mean at this point, I feel like I just need to not look at anything about her because it angers me. And I feel like when I do that with people that are truly evil, where they have malice intent to hurt me or make stuff up to hurt me,

which is what she clearly did. She's just lying and gaslighting me and all this stuff like that. And not to even go back to what she was doing in the first place, making fun of me, which is like what she clearly did. She's just like lying and gaslighting me and like all this stuff like that. And not to even like go back to like what she was doing in the first place, like making fun of me. And I was like, I don't know. I can't even like, I can't even grasp it. But I just, I have, I have to just like block that out completely. Cause like physically she makes me like sick. Do you know what I mean? Like I can't, I can't even like look at it. It's so, I don't know. It's that bad energy vibes, which I really don't feel like, I feel like with this podcast, yeah, people say it's drama or whatever. And it's like it's whatever. Like if I talk about people, it's like I almost have like no connection to it.

But this is just something that's like so – but a lot of people – like you even said this too. Like you're not directly affected, but you have this like bad vibes. You're like this is not it. What I remember too is like – and this is like such a random story. I've only met her like really like one time and when I was working for Joey and they filmed a collab and he had to go get something downstairs and it was just me and her in the room

and like, and I was thinking about this over the weekend. She specifically just like wouldn't even like look at me and it was just me and her in the room. Like literally just me and her. Oh my God. Which on her phone?

She was like either on her phone or just like looking. I remember, but like wouldn't even like look at me and I remember like trying to make small talk a little bit but it was just like, oh yeah. And it was just that. And like I work entertainment for so long so like look at me and I remember like trying to make small talk a little bit but it was just like oh yeah and it was just that

and like I work entertainment for so long so like I'm used to like talent just kind of like being standoffish and you kind of just like you know are invisible or whatever

but then that just in context with like everything else that you hear but okay maybe so maybe there's like celebrities who have to like

prepare you know they're like doing an acting scene so like yeah they can't talk to you or something like that but I don't know me and like anyone else scene. So like, yeah, they can't talk to you or something like that. But I don't know, me and like anyone else

I've seen like celebrity wise, like they always talk. Like I always talk to the people behind the camera because it's like, especially if you're alone in a room with someone, you're going to talk to them.

But I always do because that's like, it's so cliche to only talk to like the talent, but like especially you, it's just you and Joey, you know what I mean? It's like,

it's like when you would be in the, I think we did a fast food one. I don't even think you saw us, but there's one time me and Joey did like a fast food video. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was just in the back. think we did a fast food one. I don't even think you saw us, but there was one time me and Joey did like a fast food video. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you were in the back.

I was just in the back. Did people see you or no? A little bit, yeah. Oh. And to me, I was like, well, it'd be weird to like not acknowledge you. You're in the back like this whole time. And I get it. Like, producer, you're like silent in the back.

But it's like I don't even TV shows. I just – I always talk to people. I don't know. Yeah, she – It's just very seen off. And like, yeah. But – and we knew she was going to come back. I just never expected her to come back so casually, like, fall vlog.

Fall vlog. Wild. What's the second one? The second one was, like, Christmas, here we are, vlogmas. Like, girl. Girl. And I think also, like, you should take enough time away for, like, the punishment to fit the crime. You need more than four months.

Like, you did something, like, horrendous, and obviously. You need more than four months. Like you did something like horrendous and obviously you don't want to say sorry and obviously you're not sorry, but you're just trying to come across more sincere. It's like, take a little more time. Give a year. You know, it's like Shane left for a year and what was his like jokes about kids

or something like that? It was something like not even as like serious. Like he wasn't talking, I don't know, whatever. Went away for a year, kind of came back. It was like specific victims who were like, like I saw Becky was saying like she was like very, very triggered by Colleen coming back, you know, and she was already having like a really tough time like in going through therapy and this like kind of put her like

a few steps backward. Just like you said, not get any acknowledgement. That's what it is. Yeah. It's there's no closure for these people who are clearly so upset and like, yeah, and I think that's like the James Charles thing. Anything you see someone you know with success and you're this child who felt some

type of way and her apology is like sorry I hurt some people with my comedy or something like that it's like okay but there's a very specific person you hurt with that who you humiliated on stage not everyone had that experience so say sorry for that you threw Adam under the bus with malice intent you know editing specifically out to say you know oh he asked for it even though

you like very again just bad intentions and like that's something like just apologize you're not going to go to jail yet unless there's some like prover and that's what i say like i don't think you have to like get over anything if there's actual like something criminal that happened and stuff like that like yeah you could you know go to the police with it but still there's malice intent behind all those things and stuff like that and even the girl that was on stage maybe her that was her comedy whatever but that girl's clearly like upset and very vocal about it it's not like a secret like There's malice intent behind all those things and stuff like that. And even the girl that was on stage, maybe that was her comedy or whatever. But that girl is clearly, like, upset and very vocal about it. It's not, like, a secret.

Yeah. There's so many little pieces. But, like, especially with, like, with Adam, for example, too. Like, he, like, came out that first time, you know, and she, like, buried him. Like, she had to, like, run him off the internet almost, you know. And he was a kid. Like. Literally.

Literally a kid at the time. And it's, like, oh, my God. It really does drive me crazy. And, like I said knew she's gonna come back i didn't expect this and like i would respect it if she's just like yeah i gotta get back to work because i have kids i need to support yeah that i need to put through school and stuff then it's like fine you know whatever but to just come back oh like it just gives me it's like a swarmy little feeling i don't know it's very like there's something not genuine about it because she says i've been doing a lot of therapy during this time so like okay so

you came back why aren't you sharing that like i'm doing a lot of therapy and i've learned that yeah something yeah what did you work on yeah you're not coming back with something you learned from your therapy like telling us okay and i learned that i did this wrong or that's wrong or this is what i see different now from what i saw before like yeah like so i don't believe it i don't believe no there's zero genuineness there's so zero like you just see it you just see soulless like nothing behind the eyes just trying to manipulate and she can't because she has like all these young people that follow her obviously the the comments and stuff like that but it's just wild like again this is something that's like so serious it involves children and it's just to come back like that and it's like

yeah what are you working in therapy for because you're sick in the head like okay tell us you know like be aware and i think like if you can be aware that you've done you have like a sickness which i don't know i'm not diagnosing her but there's obviously something wrong with her like maybe explain that and people can maybe have a little more empathy or whatever. But even if it's like I talked to a therapist and I realized I was like emotionally stunted, like it doesn't have to be like a diagnosis, just like something to explain. Why are you do this? Why did you lie about him?

Like why? And apologize. Like you said, you buried this person, got sent so much hate to incite hate on someone like a kid, a especially with also like lies just like leaving details out and stuff to make him look some type of way like that's again really malice really like evil and that deserves an apology that deserves like apology basic apology and i again i think that's all adam like asked for in the beginning and it kind of does go a long way for both sides because like i said she apologized to me and it's just like at that

point it's like okay well like i don't have nothing else to say because she admitted she's a crap person and that's it and you can support that person if you want or not but there's like again very few bad bad people on the internet and it's like I think it's like better to just like not give them attention a lot of people said that you're like I'm not giving a review they clipped it on tiktok or whatever like that I think that's just the way to go because I think she just you know came back for attention and money and just not giving her that is the only way to. Yeah. And I think she's, I mean, it's pretty transparent. Like she, it's the route of just like, and then she's going to be normal and keep posting like every day, every other day. And at some point she's going to become normal

that she's back and like, but God, how tasteless, like so tasteless, tasteless just dumb evil manipulative like all of it i'm just like you're oh it like makes me like physically sick because you cut your hair they always cut always a hair show me i'm changed i'm just a mom with like hand and i like again that's like another weird like segue is it's kind of a manipulation tactic to be like in that same apology to be like oh look my kids made some work and i'm just being a mom and it's kind of a manipulation tactic to be like in that same apology to be like oh look my kids made some work and i'm just being a mom and it's very because of course like you're not going to hate on someone like kids you know so it's like to put that in there that same thing is um just a little bit ick like i just don't know how she's not embarrassed like i don't know

i would literally hide for at least a year she's got the money she has a six million household her four million she got the money she can hide for a year but i don't know it's like it's the attention it's the greed it's all of it in my opinion i just don't think that she thinks she did anything really that wrong no nothing because the way that she like moves about this whole thing i don't and you can tell because everyone that's like come out that's like her friend and her family and stuff like todrick and jojo and everyone in her on her family they all just kind of label it as like drama or like cancellation cancel culture or whatever and stuff too so i think that she in her head she's probably still a victim of all that and i don't think that she sees that there's

actually victims of her victim that she is not and there's like something wrong with her like for real like there is and it's like and it doesn't have to be like a mental diagnosis but there's something wrong like the obsession the obsession just even like my photos and stuff like that and the pictures and like sending that also stuff it's like again she did this a month after giving birth and stuff like that it's like it's not like you change to say oh this happened years ago it's like this summer you were literally throwing kids under the bus and like lying to lying to me that never happened and then it comes out and like what like i to give it out to someone and then them just keep lying like that, that's what I'm saying. There's like something like seriously wrong with that person. If I get caught, I'm just like, well, okay. I mean, that was a bad time and I

wasn't going through a dark thing, whatever. But to kind of double down was wild. And I just, like the whole thing, it just, it's, it's, it's, it's really sickening. It's really disgusting. And it, like, again, her fans are very youngs which is also a little bit eerie to this whole thing because the support is like we love you and also it's like okay yikes i think it'll still eat away at her that she she's not youtube's golden child that she once was oh for sure everyone loving her is i think it's like the mask is like off but she's gonna try her best to like to pivot yeah yeah and that just shows like the manipulation of it all it's like so crazy i mean it's great what's crazy is when you get held accountable for something or like people all see

it like the whole internet literally came crashing down on her and she still doesn't see it like you know what i mean like in a lesser sense when people have like all come crashing down on me it's like at some point it's just like you're hit over the head with it you're like whoa okay maybe let me let me figure out like what i'm doing wrong because sometimes i like couldn't see it either like sometimes you're just like wait what am i what did i say i was so bad what do you know and so it's like you have to take the whole internet to come crashing down and then you're like okay now i kind of like see it okay this is not what i should have said and i handled this wrong but for her to like just like not see it and not think she did anything wrong her family

included like all this stuff just all these excuses like you said people are making like it's drama it's this yeah bizarre when there's straight out lies no i mean yeah when you hear what people next to her say they said this is all lies which means that's what she believes and tells other people well so it's not but i think what i what i've learned is with you she apologized so quickly and i think it's an ego thing like you're somebody and she still sees adam as nobody and i don't think she will ever get over that part that somebody that in her mind is no one did this to her you know what i mean she just won't ever get over that so i think because after four months you're not coming back with

apology to adam and close the case and move on yeah she will never give him that yeah and you because you can't say much when someone's apologized it's kind of like take it or leave it. That's happened. What else can you do? Again, if there's something criminal that happened, that's up to Adam or something like that. But in this kind of case of she did something wrong, she apologized, take it or leave it, at least it's happened.

But the fact that she hasn't, I think is the most frustrating to people. And again, I see that on a lesser thing too. Sometimes I'm just like, well, I don't know how to apologize or whatever. But it's very simple to just be like, I'm sorry. And it probably wouldn't be genuine from her, but at least it's something more than just this. Because she didn't even really apologize in the video. She's just like, I know. Like I hurt people with my comedy.

Yeah. I was like, girl, you're 34 back then. Like it was not that long ago. All of a sudden it happened. So, yeah, when there's physical – when there's actual people that are talking, it's like maybe apologize. They've all done interviews with like some of them did rolling stone wall street journal insider like yeah they all have faces and names now like they did become like kind of public figures yeah adam like always was but a

lot of these other ones who like they didn't want to be influenced or anything you know but they all of a sudden became like the faces of this like case and to not to not say anyone's names at all or like humanize them at all is so i just or to send them like an email or something damn like just i would even if i didn't think i was like i feel like this guilt i'd feel this thing i'm like wow these people are really upset like let me even if you're not fully there yet which is like if you're doing therapy you should fully realize what you did was wrong but it's just like to not i don't know that guilt alone once you feel like bad that you ruined someone's life and humiliated someone i guess and i feel like a lot of it's like oh it's like

for legal reasons or whatever she can't say this but it's like at this i don't think any of them this is just like literally just my opinion but i don't think any of them would press like any kind because i feel like if they were going to they would they would have and i think literally all they just want is like an apology have their feelings validated with an apology. Yeah. I think so too. I think it's. So I don't think this whole like legal excuse to you.

It's like. Yeah. You're just like. You're just bad. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's. Yeah. I'm not sticking around for any of the vlog. Like I. I saw the. I couldn't even see like the one where she's wearing blue. Episode two. Whatever.

Yeah. The blue sweater one. I'm like. I'm not sticking with this. Is that what it's called? Blue sweater? I am. No.

I'm not watching. I can't. I can't blue sweater I can't unless something like massive blows up like I literally have to like skip past I put not interested because I was just like her face was making me so angry and like I I know when like again that anger is like not good for anyone but it's like there's a reason obviously and I'm like I just need to ignore this completely and like cut it off because I am not about to let her ruin my like physical health again especially not like during my pregnancy because she did enough this summer. And I was just like, it was so stressful. And you know when you tell someone like I don't feel well and then they just keep being like, well, this happened. And did you see this? Now I'm worried about this. And so I was like, girl, like my daughter's sick. I'm sick. Like I'm trying

to get pregnant. I can't ovulate. Like all this stuff like that. I like didn't ovulate for literally like eight weeks. Like I didn't have a period for eight weeks. It was just so stressful. Then having that constantly. I'm like, God, if someone tells me they're sick, whether they're like lying about it or not, just leave them alone. I'm like, okay, you're sick. You know what I mean?

Like when you were like, I was rushed to the hospital or the urgent care, I was like, don't worry about the podcast. Like, do you know what I mean? Like you're like, it's going to be up by noon. I'm like, it's fine. Like you could have like died.

Like, you know, I don't know. It's just bizarre. And I have like no respect for people like that either. It's just the whole thing's embarrassing. Oh my God. What a saga. Little did we just the whole thing's embarrassing. Oh my God. What a saga. Little did we know this was going to be. Oh my God.

Like I couldn't, like you don't think it could get worse and then you're like I see the face and I'm like no. Anyways. Positive vibes. So sorry my baby. Please don't absorb any of this. I know. That's what I'm saying. Like literally I physically felt sick and I was just like, this is really bad vibes.

And I'm not like such a vibey person. I don't want to necessarily have the best intuition in general, clearly. Like I don't really. But like, you know, for some reason when I saw these clips, I don't know, it was like making me physically, like I couldn't sleep. Like I was just up. It was very weird. It was very bizarre.

And so I'm like, okay, for my health, I'm just not going to see anything unless it's like something big or something that happens. Because in general doing this, because I think people were scared when I started doing this, like, okay, for my health, I'm just not going to see anything unless it's like something big or something that happens. Because in general, doing this, because I think people were scared when I started doing this, like, oh, drama again. But it's like, you know, in general, I'm like, I am pretty spiritually enlightened. I'm pretty disconnected from stories. It doesn't really affect me. And if it does, I'm like not talking about it.

Clearly, if someone affects me, I just don't talk about that person. So it's like at the end of the day, if it's like something silly, you know, which I think is most of our stuff. Talking about like Jacob Elordi's like kissing booth. I was like, okay, like not that serious. But anyways, any final thoughts? Should we say all of them? I don't know.

I'm literally speechless at this point, but okay. Well, it's- The last of our Colleen updates for the time, for the foreseeable future. Yeah, I think it needs to be. Yeah, I need until I have this baby and then maybe physically I can stomach some stuff. But I don't think it's going to be now, especially because I'm in my happy mood and our just Trish mood and our just Trish podcast. But I hope you guys have a really good Thanksgiving. This is our final episode of the week.

So have a great Thanksgiving and just be thankful for what you have, the health, the good health. We'll be back next week with the Hot Topics, of course. We'll be back next week with a guest. And thank you guys for everything. I'm thankful for you guys, truly. I mean it. It's amazing to be here. I feel like I went to our Kardashian boys. Like, truly amazing. It's amazing what we're doing. And, yeah, I love you guys so much. I'm pregnant! With baby number two. Oh, my gosh.

Just Trish with Oscar, Moses, and Elvis. Oh! There's four of us now here. So, yeah, thanks, guys, for watching. Oscar, thank you, as always. I love you so much. And Moses, I love you so much. And audience, I love, thank you, as always. I love you so much. And Moses, I love you so much.

And audience, I love you so much. And baby, I love you so much. And, yeah, baby number two. Woo-hoo. Green Keep Positive Vibes. Where is it? Somewhere. I don't know which way this direction goes.

The baby's in there somewhere. All right. Have a great, happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you guys next time on Just Trish. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yay. Aw.