Just Trish - Trisha Is Releasing Her Memoir... And She's Exposing EVERYONE | Just Trish Ep. 261

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

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I don't, I think, I think everyone can agree no matter the fit of rage that you're in or whatever. I feel like when your kid is there, you just know to end it. Nothing he does is funny, but I also don't know who he is. Bad. All of this was bad, but I guess when you're already at the bottom, there's nowhere else to go. Because you're already there. Hello and welcome back to the podcast, just Trish. So happy to be here today.

Oh my gosh, we're still in the lucky month. Even though St. Patrick's Day has passed, we are still luckier than ever because. we're all here together enjoying each other's presents and company and we just love making quality content for you guys and that is what we're doing here just Trish I heard radio awards this week and the voting has closed so

here's hoping me, Miley Taylor, we're all gonna be there just a couple of divas, you know? Mama, this is a place for legends. It kind of is Yelie Taylor and Trish? They heard you were going to be there and they're like, we'll come to this one. Yeah, they changed

their minds. They were going to just send a little video message and they said, oh, the Diva Future Emmy Award winning Future Emmy's crazy. Actress Star of Euphoria and other TVD projects is going to be there. Like, let me show up and show out. That's what I think. I think so, too. I saw a TikTok that had like 200,000 like likes and it was literally just like, oh, Trisha and an unknown.

And who was that unknown? Taylor. Oh, Taylor's going to be so excited to meet Trish. The comments were so wild, but I'm so happy I'm on this side of the internet. I made it through. I weather the storm. I'm on the other side, which is Great. I'm very excited. So we'll see how that goes. Oh, Euphoria did send me a package. We should open that or maybe on Patreon. We can open it. Euphoria sent me a package before I forget. And my other TBD project is coming in April. So it's not too much longer. And yeah, I have an exciting announcement coming today, which I'm really excited about. And just, you know, great stuff happening. Is this the last touch out? Or? It's done. It's done and over. Oh, I got to calculate what we raised for the NJBC from those.

These are done for a moment But it's gonna become my secret society Where I'm gonna do secret videos for that tier Or you can just downgrade to a different tier if you want But yes, these are the final headshots for now Because as we know even with this one it took me I was a week late to them It takes me a very long time to hand sign them

I love them but truly these days I do not have a minute to spare Except eating somebody the other day was like All you do is eat don't just spend time with your kids I'm like well I'm gonna have to eat You know and I eat with them they're next to me So I do have time to eat that is like great things I live just now they're like will you have time to eat on tic-tac for someone who's such a boots on the ground hater that they're mad at you for like sustaining

your life like that's kind of fierce it's just the question mark which i need to keep shout not shouting at that question mark because the question mark was like thanks for the shout-out also i mean i feel really sad for them the question mark no yeah they don't have quality like they don't know what it means to have dinner with family to sit down parents kids together Yeah. Like, that's the most quality time you have and you want to make it last as long as possible. Right. But I guess their argument is that I'm filming it and I should be enjoying it with the kids.

No, I think they're just missing the whole point of sitting together. I'm all the task. I'm a working mom. I need to do it all. It is about six minutes of filming. And I don't do it all the time. Just, you know. They love it.

I mean, they light up. The minute you turn the camera on, Malibu is just like, hello everybody. We got to take her to ice cream after this because she was very, she was very clingy. She should not want us to go to work today. And then I was like, No, she wanted to go to work. She wanted to go to work. She's like, I want to work.

I'm like, enjoy your youth. Yeah, not working. Not working. Anyways, that was a whole long thing. And the question marks like, I'm not your only hater. There's still some left. I haven't seen any.

I've literally just seen this question mark. So anyways, some people came for her. You don't have to come or hurt them. I don't know. It's a question mark. We don't know. I'm not daching anyone. And it's fine.

But, you know, you are my only hater? Just kidding. How are you? Should I do the announcement? Should I just do it now? Yeah, in a few minutes. Yeah, because we need to do just... A little intros.

It's a big... It's a big announcement. You look very different. It's the glasses for so. Is this where we're not sponsored? Or is free? Is it the one that they're in? Yes.

No, okay. The gag is... No, not these ones. The gag is they sent me some... They weren't able to put my prescription in the ones that they sent me for free because my prescription is too bad. Like, the lenses were too thick.

for the frames. But they're like, do you still want them? And I'm like, well, yeah, maybe I'll figure it out somehow. What? How? And then I just went and got these ones. But these are my near-sided ones for like the computer. And my distance ones are taking a long time because those ones, that's the prescription.

That's really bad. Do you switch or you have bifocles? I'll switch. Like, when I'm- You switch glasses? Yeah. So these are my computer ones. So when she's doing journalism, she'll have these ones on. And then I have other ones for like driving in everyday life.

That's crazy. They have like trifocles. They have like multiple lenses that you can look out of. My normal prescription, I can technically do both, but it's a very interesting stuff. I just, it's more of a strain on my eyes because they're, I don't know, the way that they adjust. There's a very small part of the frame of the lens that's like for a computer or like near-sidedness. So I have to look specifically from that part of the lens, like down. But these ones, the whole lens is for like up close.

So it's less of a strain on my eyes. I just don't see. Maybe that's the secret. I'm a blurriest hell to everybody. Everyone's glorious hell to me. You know, when I drive, I wear my glasses. But it just contacts, glasses, all of it's annoying. I love glasses because I feel like they, I don't know, my head is big so it distracts from my big head.

I was going to wear glasses today too to look smart. My big head too. I have a huge head. Who's that is big? Do we ever measure circumference? That's a good Patreon. 26. I think I'm a 26 inch.

Everyone in the crew will measure. Well, I think it's mine for sure. You look good. I like these new glasses. Oh, thanks. The tousled hair. It's a little wavy. And then that's outfit.

You are in full. You can't see the pants, but you're in full combat. Well, combat. I don't know if that. Maybe not full. It's almost like camouflage, but it's not true. Well, you have a Hamilton Star on. So that's why I was thinking like combat in the Civil War, but that was wrong timing.

But yes. Has been star. Mama the drive. I know. It is giving that. It is giving that. You are giving like 1950s. A soldier, I guess.

Work. If I can say it. Okay. I don't know if that's a fair. Sorry to all the soldiers in the 1950s, probably didn't want to go. Shout out to the veterans out there. Well, they probably didn't want to go. They were drafted back then.

That's true. That's true. Which makes me sad. It's crazy. They're like, you just have to come right now. It's like, give people a chance. Tea. I guess this was Canada's for.

Not to say you have to go there, but they're talking about the 1950s. I'm giving them tips. Hostomist. Yeah. Okay. Work. And also, I guess if it happens. again or something.

I'll never know. No legal advice over here. What is the inspiration? You always have an inspo. The inspo is I saw this shirt on an Instagram ad. And then when I opened my drawer for pants, I said, those are brown. And my shirt is brown. These are new.

No. Oh, the shirt is brown. The shirt is brown? The shirt is charcoal. This is the most interesting conversation. Well, I don't know. There wasn't much thought into it, to be honest. There really wasn't.

I really wanted a big T-shirt today, honestly. For some reason, I was just like, give me just a big tea, an oversized tea. Can't go wrong with that. I know. And I'm always jealous of like, you know, the teeny we need girls who just wear the Taylor-Frankie Pauls of the world who just wear just oversized. Right. Yeah. Probably small on her.

Although Moses did say last night, he's like, you guys always talk about weight. And I was like, I feel we haven't talked about it in a while. But today we did. But I feel like we haven't talked about weight. I think so either. Yeah. Let us know. I was like, when?

They let us know. I see the comments. All right. Let us know. I feel like I've been on my good journey. I feel like I've lost like nine pounds in like six weeks. And I didn't even know. Like I thought I was just like not losing anything.

I haven't really been dieting. And then I like, wait and myself. I'm like, wow, I'm so skinny. And like I don't think about it because I don't think about losing weight. And that's why I'm like, I don't think we talk about it. Except for right now because we talked about last night. And you talked about that. But I never think about it.

So I didn't think we were talking about it. It's because you're a health and wellness vlog. I feel like you push you to make health and wellness content. So I think that's why you should have the frame everything in your mind. does like, oh, I have to do this for a video. Content. Yes. Check it out.

Health and wellness vlog. People liked it out like 70,000. I've been really pushing it. It says YouTube has Shadowban me on me. I really do. We know because you searched. I hate when people say that because it's like, no, your content is just boring, but like I actually am Shadowbound.

So YouTube, you sent me a jacket. Give me back in good graces. Give me one more shot. I will not mess it up. And I really just want. Because I love making the content. It's been so fun. But yeah.

You're going to get a March vlog too. But that was just a little bonus. And, you know, there's more to come. I'm doing Pickable now. I'm doing a lot. So just wait for part two of the health and wellness vlog. Check out Oscar Gracie's vlog too. Yeah, new blog today, actually.

I know. What's the title? I think the working title as of right now is Flopcast After Show plus sign buying a house is like really hard, you guys. Prentices, vlog and parentheses. That's a good one. Thank you. Yes. You're on your real estate journey.

Yes. I guess find out more on the vlog. We can talk about it here you want. I don't know how deep you're going into. it, but it's been so exciting after each one. I'm like, oh my God, let's the update. Like, House Spying is so exciting. It is.

It's very overwhelming in a really great way, though, like a way that was like, wow, I do not think this would ever happen. And it really is because of you in this program, genuinely, because damn, it is so hard. It is so hard for just the regular working girl because, yeah, with my regular working girl job, I couldn't get shit. Well, even as a non-regular working girl, this podcast also saved me. So I was also very much in debt. So thank you guys.

And I'm glad. I'm so happy. It's so exciting. It's very cool. Yeah, I can't wait to see your vlog. Are you, like, vlogging, looking at houses and stuff? Because obviously, we don't want to spoil it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And also I'm a little behind. I'm like two weeks behind. Oh, okay. So it was earlier in the process. But we have updates in there. Have you been filming the houses? A couple of them, yeah. I love people do that.

I like always wish we would have done that. But I always feel, you film, I guess, a little bit. I always feel like, put it down, put it down, don't do it. But, like, people do it all the time. Terror's world did it. done it for the ones where it's like their show houses. Yeah. And like, um, no one lives there. Because I feel like if it's a family lives there and I'm sitting here like filming in their closet, that's weird. But these are all like empty like show houses. I've got like flips. So there's

been a couple where like it was actual family selling their home. But yeah. And what does that mean? There's like their stuff is in there. Yeah. Right. Because people would still be living there. Yeah. I never, oh, I guess we never looked at houses like that. But I guess if we were to sell this, yeah, I guess in order to buy a new house, you'd have to sell this house. And it's all. The concept of that while, like with all the kids, like the kids' playroom. That's what I'm saying. Like, they'll see my face everywhere. Like.

No, usually you don't. But if we're living here, we're doing the podcast here. We're going to get another house once we sold this house. So how? You would move into a like a transfer phase where, you know, like everything is packed and goes into storage. No, he's saying he's looked at houses where the kids are living. Like people are living there because they can't do that. But I'm saying for us.

Okay, well, not just like a regular person. Like, yeah, your stuff would just be there and people just going through, I suppose. Yeah. Pretty rare, but yeah. We can still be here. I don't mind if people come through. I'd be like, here, welcome to my house. If anything, it adds a little market value.

Okay. Yeah. Celebrity lived here. We become a fan meet and greet, you know, because people will just be interested in the house to come and see you. Well, you get, like, you can get people like, you know, pre-approved, you know about this, whatever. I don't care if they want to come and do a meet and greet.

It's fine. honestly because whoever buys this house when we're dead or whatever like is going to have to be a fan because the beetle juice table can't move and the prince of egypt marble bed can't move because it's cemented into the house and probably the couch because it took a crane to get the couch in I don't know how the hell you're going to get it out so I think I would love if it was like if it's not going to turn into like a graceland I would love if a fan bought it actually because they'd probably like preserve it and uh love it that's kind of cool I would like if Elvis's house would for sale I would 100% buy it especially with like all his stuff in it's kind of cool

Right? Like a super fan? I guess. If we're dead, who cares? Yeah. I mean, kind of like the Breaking Bad House that like recently went for sale. Oh, yes. I think I want to say Aiden Ross, but I think so too.

And I think it was originally on the market for like a couple, I mean like a couple hundred thousand and ended up being sold to Aden Ross for like, I think over two million just because it was the Breaking Bad House. So I think if you just really capitalize that this is where everything happened, that Mama, you want to be a part of her street? Come on down. The pink wall is yours. You can have this year.

I actually love that. It's very Whitney with Shane Dawson's old house. You know, it's very like history. A little landmark, if you will. I don't know. We got to reach out for a statement. Did Whitney know what she was getting into it? I don't know.

I don't know. I feel, oh, God, that was distracting. Sorry. That was from Vyasha. Go to Patreon.com slash Just Trish. If you want to see, me and Moses went to Veyerach last week while Oscar was busy handling his home. His home buying it and endeavors.

Yes. Yes, but it was good. We went to My R-R-10 and had a blast. It had a whole choice. It was incredible. Oh, my God. It was so good. Well, if you bought a house out there, let us know how it went.

It's hard. I never did until I met Moses. I definitely needed that. What did they call it? The dinks, the dual-income. Oh, it's dual-income. No kids. That's not us.

But it was us. And, yeah, it's not easy. They don't make it easy no matter what. But like you said, I mean, if you're not an influence, I'm sure, it's like 10 times harder because it's just like. That's pretty much impossible for most people in this point. Because even if you save money, right? It's like if you're not if you're not showing like consistent like they're just they're so picky.

Even us who were making money like it still was like not enough. It's like you could show I was doing OF back and I was just like the consistent, this big income. And they're like well, it's new though. The income's new. Yeah. I have the same problem. And because I showed my like salary and I've been saving like I've been living very cost efficiently for years. And I have like a salary job and everything.

So I thought it would be pretty easy. but damn and like my salary is considered like above average so my whole like woke soapbox was like okay if my technically have above salary above average salary at my like job my full-time job then what about the people who are average or below average and then I was like the system is really another reason we need to run one day for Congress because it should be affordable housing for everyone it used to be like that like first-time buyers like only 3% down and so it's like it used to be that and I don't know what the hell happened when I was the first-time buyer it's like no not you actually.

It's like, well, okay, but also you don't qualify for this and also you can't do this. And it's just, it's... California can be good. If you have Trisha and Spencer. Well, make affordable housing for everyone. As I should. It's not, you know, what are they...

I know. What are the gatekeeping for? You know what I mean? It's sick. For everyone. We'll get there. We'll get there. Maybe not this year or next year, but in the next 10 years.

It's the long-term plan. Hopefully, that's like, the goal in life. How are you with a pink shirt over there? I'm good. Yeah, I've got a new shirt and got a new cooking channel going in. I didn't know about this. Did we find this reveal after last time? When did you reveal this? You revealed this to us. I'm like, oh, you have a whole new cooking. Right? Were you here? Yeah. What? What did you mean?

When did this happen? And you never told me the name. You never said anything. Oh, just Moses cooking, cooking videos. Cooking. Is there something up there now? It will be. Yeah. The last one I made because I got that collaboration between basically pasta and tin fish, Carbon and Fishwife. For sponsored TikTok, everyone, go see it. Yeah, so I'll upload it over there just to get it going so people can subscribe and get the channel moving.

See, we always have something to promote. Asper, your vlog, Moses, now you got something to promote. I'm cooking all the time, so. You are. Everyone always says that. They're always like, you should just be filming this. I always say that too. Should be filming it.

So I will. Enjoy it. You will enjoy it or you're telling them to enjoy it? I'm enjoying it, but subscribe. Yeah, the food you make. I keep sending you recipes. It's so good. Well, before we get into hot topics, we'll do my announcement.

I'm so excited. Okay, guys, here it is. Over 100,000 words. No joke. Okay, you guys. My official memoir as a published author is now available for pre-orders. This is my memoir, Crying on the Kitchen Floor. Yay!

Yes. I'm so excited. Oh, my God. We got to start our book. book club with this. Over 100,000 words, you guys. We actually cut down because it was like so much. The first two chapters, they actually cut down in half because like it's just actually too much. But my memoir, Crying on the Ligin Floor is officially available now for pre-order cover. Cover reveal will be happening in a couple weeks in the cover. It's amazing. If I do say so myself.

And I'm going to do a little book tour in November. So keep your first two weeks in November open. I'm coming to a town near you. This is crazy. Yes. It's my first publishing deal. I've done books where I self-published, pamphlets, if you will. Mess. Writing a memory at 23 under the influence is not recommended. Those are relics and those have nothing in them. This has all the juice that you wanted to. Honestly, like at first, I was like,

oh, it's not going to be tell out because everyone knows everything. And then I was like reading it back. I was like, oh, this is like a lot to share. So things I've talked about, things I haven't talked about, things that I'm like, oh, God, I was so in the wrong. What was going through my head at the time. And also things that I still feel like I deserve some justice. for. There's a lot. There's a lot in here to uncover.

I hope it's a takeaway book, too. I hope it's a takeaway book. A lesson of, you know, resilience. Resilience. Well, I was going to say it's possible to change, but yeah, resilience, I guess, is the same thing. Resilience. Oh, we need to do a butterfly release to celebrate. Oh, my God. So smart.

We should do it on. Can we get butterflies here in the next hour? That'd be everything. That really does symbolize you, I think. Who do we call? Who was that guy? Jordan. Metamorphosis, that's a good. Oh, Jordan. Oh, Jordan. He's going to jail. right? Is that the one that's divorcing? Allegedly, yes. Allegedly, yeah.

Is divorcing allegedly jail? Did you hear that? Yeah. Was it his sister or her sister or something? It was like, oh, he's going to jail. Chase his sister, but yes. Oh, different sister. She was excited. She was celebrating that jail. I was like, that's kind of crazy, but also work, whatever he did.

But, you know, I've been invited to the villa. It's a big moment for dad's war. Oh, my gosh. And a bigger moment of Moses. Anyways, crying on the kitchen floor is my memoir. Go get it. pre-order. It's going to be great.

Everywhere. We're going to have a bunch of links. There's a couple links. There's different outlets. The UK. Got a UK publishing deal. Which is hard to get. They're kind of like,

they're a little more, you know, picky over there. So got a UK one. I'm very excited. This has been literally two years in the making. We have been writing this and finding the right publisher, which was like right away, actually, the first one.

We had like so many calls. And like the first one was like, this is the one. Just an amazing all female team. Pretty much in the last two years every week for a few hours. Every week. Yeah, I've been working on it. And sometimes twice a week when I was on tour, I was doing twice a week.

And I was working on tour. Oh, my God. And we just finished the manuscript a couple weeks ago. So it's good. I'm very excited. It's going over to legal now. So we'll see what they let me keep in. I think they'll keep in most.

It is kind of funny what they'll let you keep in. I guess if they're like public figures, you can like keep in most. But I was, oh, I was very meticulous with this, even going through the rereads because I was like, everything has to be perfect. I was looking at every single day. That's why for the past two years I've been kind of like nostalgic, I suppose. why Shane and everything's been writing up because it's just like in my head. I had to watch videos.

I've never watched before. Some David Doberk videos I never watched those last two. I never watched those videos in their entirety. So I remember watching it and just being like, oh, my, like, it just so much. I've learned about myself in the past couple years. And I just had to make sure every, like, date was right. I just had to make sure this was like perfect because I know everyone's going to just like dissect it. And like the best way.

But also I just don't want any room for any error. So. She would sometimes like walk into the room like in tea. years of like this paragraph I just can't like she'll get so emotional about the book I did write one I know do you know why the Caged Bird sings is that okay no what is that my answer something in dad is something bad could never be me but I find up there with her I think I was very I was I was yeah sometimes you write things and you're just like wow and then you write it you know I think everyone has a good story I think everyone has a good story I think everyone

a story and everyone could write their own but I really do feel like mine is it's a lot 20 years it's been 20 years since I wrote my last memoir basically my self-published one so a lot of it happened in 20 years and I'm very excited Oscar has Oscar has a pretty pivotal moment in the book that no one knows about so I'm excited that it's out there yes I'm very excited and you end in my ending too which is great because the ending like wraps everything up and it's like this happy little time so here's hoping we stay together for a very long time because I remember being like wow this is published like this is great he can changed me. Everything's getting better. That is so sweet. Yeah, I'm very excited. So

anyways, it's good. I think it's good. I think it is like slacious, but I think of like honest. I think it's real. I feel like I did a lot of good self-reflection. I feel like I'm that person who can really look at myself as like, what is it like self-aware? Like not really like, no victim here. You know, sometimes younger when I was like a child maybe. But like, in my adult social media, like, yeah, I really don't. I really tried hard not to victimize myself. So I was talking to so many other people too. And just. like getting feedback on everything and just good self-reflection. Good self-reflection.

I'm very proud. So I don't think anyone needs to be scared of this book. But maybe, I don't know. It's all honest. It's all honest. I really try and just be like honest and take it like some emotion out of it when it comes to it. But I'm very excited. Not even Moses.

Like he hasn't even read it yet. I don't know. You're not a reader, but would you want to read it? I'm waiting for the audio book. There you go. I'm going to record. I have to record two. I have to record one for the U.S.

one for the U.K. I guess the U.K. You need an accurate. accent yeah hello chapter one it's tortuana kitchen they don't they don't understand american that's so funny I guess they censor more over there they censor names

they're just more uh... yeah they're very very strict with like liability and stuff um so anyways that's that I'm very um I'm very excited I can't believe I could have announced it was so fun so it's coming in at November but you can start the pre-orders today um which you know

you should do Because it's already flying off the show. So if you don't get your pre-orders in now, and everyone who pre-orders has the option to be entered into a gift. No, no, fake news, fake news. I love fake giveways. Which, by the way, you know you do, which is why. You were one of the first a comment on Moses' has sponsored Tinfish pasta review on Instagram.

Because you're excited about it. I was within the first five minutes. I said, this looks delicious. I will be trying it. And then the comments are like, you don't even like fish. Okay. We got some for you. That tuna pasta is coming right down.

Actually, Amari and Devin liked it. Tana doesn't do fish, but they liked it. They were filming what I was. Oh, I love it. All the food. Everything was gone. Nothing was left. Amari is a big tin fish person, so he was very excited about it. So it was very delicious.

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I know, I'll be so excited. I want to be like at the airport. I want to go like what they do. and like they sign the books, you know, they go into, like, store and sign. I think Debbie Lado just did that with her cookbook. She's just like, signing. Can you do that?

I guess so you get, like, like, taken out of the store for vandalism? I know. I was like, wait, could you just sign? What if someone's like, I don't want this sign book? You know what I mean? Like, I guess, oh, I guess that's why they did video

so it looks like they're actually signing it. Because what if I just go in and do like, you know, Stephen King's book and start signing it as him. I guess you'd take it as proof. But I, yeah, I'm excited. I can't wait to do the audio book. I haven't done it yet, It really is, you know, really is my voice.

And I'm very excited. Yay. And it's like, we only get one memoir, too. It's like, I mean, maybe like another 30 years. I could write another memoir. But it's kind of like the big one. And I'm like really excited. I'm cool.

Like, it's cool to be like published too. I don't know. Like, I mean, of course, not publishing do it. It's cool. But published. Dallas Lerman, Sophia Coppola. We're ready to get options. We got a manuscript.

Let's get it going. Let's get the film. would love, I'll get Baz first, first good sake. Yeah, you know, you did go with Yelvis. Margo Robbie at Lucky Chat Productions, let's talk. Let's go. I'm ready. My link tree has my contact info and I'll be managing the deal.

Come on. Oh my God, that would be so crazy. Maybe my photographer for my cover is the same photographer who did Jeanette McCarty's book. So maybe there's some good dust in there. It's really good. I really love my cover. I'm really excited. That'll come in a couple weeks.

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Tim. I was like, oh, yeah. And it was so good. And he was telling me all the Jim McCrody, like, options they had. But her cover is so iconic. So I was just like, it's not the same, obviously. It's very different. But I'm excited to have the revere. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's a movie. Oh, my God. That's so exciting. Could get to it. I always had Rainier Rodriguez. I like her. I love Dove Cameron. I love, I don't know, like unknown. Yeah, T. Like, this could really be an unknown actresses, like star making role. Yeah. So we really could go so many ways with that.

Yeah. McKenna Grace. I, you beat me to it. I was thinking a little bit. Kind of Grace. But she is kind of in everything, so it's like. Right. She's already a star. But she was great. I watched the Zendaya Disney Channel show that she was on.

Yeah. Did you ever see that on a clip? The girl's a robot? Yeah. I didn't even know she was in that. I didn't either. Where she slammed the door on her face. And she said, I know you're a robot, but, and I was like,

my kind of Grace A. I didn't know that was her either. Someone's like, oh, she's been in everything. And I was like, oh, hired. She can play me 100%. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many, there's so many options.

I actually don't know. We'll get to that when we get to that, I guess. Let's have it come out first. Yeah, all right. What's what to do? When does Euphoria start? Is it starting soon? Soon.

Wait, what is the release date? We did get a game from, I mean, specifically, a special gift for you from Robert Patterson and Zendia. Wow. I thought maybe on Patreon we can play it. Is it one of the, it's going to be like, what's the secret to ruin your marriage? But what I already tried to play.

Is it from the movie? Wow, they gave me a personal photo. That's so nice. That's major. What's the game? It's a card game. Like, what's one question on there? What's the worst thing you've ever done?

Really? I literally already play that. And then when you go deeper, what's a red flag you ignored when you first met them? Because I think some of them are about X's and some of them are. So there's low drama and high drama. Oh. We should play that with the cast of Mormon wives. That would be crazy.

I think that's every episode over there. Yeah. All red flags. Oh my gosh. Yeah, everything popped off after our last episode. Taylor Frankie Paul really curses us because every time we talk about her, there's a new development. So I'm scared what's going to come out on Tuesday at 10.30 a.m. That's the thing.

It's like literally not Love Line 2. We filmed most like two weeks in advance and like having to like edit and change everything. And same thing with me last Monday. I was like love Taylor, Stan. And then it's like, ooh, maybe. And then it's bad. And now everyone's like already flipping. But like wait till like Dakota's thing comes.

And it's like, what is happening? Like, there is, like, just always a new... Plot Twist after plot twist after plot twist. It really is. It kind of made me sad. I mean, we're back in Hot Topics mode, so I'm, like, down to gossip about it. But it kind of made me sad over the weekend. I kind of, like, was, like, this is, like, sad.

This is, like, you mean, like, depressed a little bit. Like, because, obviously, like, kids are involved. And so it's just like... But, you know, I was deep diving. I was so deep diving. And it just is, like, there's a lot of layers. There's a lot of layers. I know.

I feel a little bit of an expert at, though. I feel like I watched every podcast Taylor Frankie Paul has done. Like I, because I am like a fan and I think so many people are fans. And I think that's like the, like, that's like, uh, it's just so, it's the problem.

And the problem is also we don't see everything. We don't know everything. And it's like, things change so quickly and like what's out there. Because obviously everyone's like, why is this all being brought up from 23? But like no one saw the video and we only went off Taylor Frankie Paul. She was on like Avery's podcast where she was just like,

oh, it never hit the child. And all of a sudden it's like hit the child. And then now it's like, okay, well, there's a whole new thing of information. Also, Wasn't there like a new, isn't there an open investigation currently?

From February, yeah. From February this year. So everyone's like, okay, it happened to years ago. She could happen. Which I would agree with, right? Like, it's like, all you can do is, like, move forward. And she was, like, going through change and growth on the show. But I think there was, like, a new one with her son ever in the room, allegedly.

Yes. Yes. So I was like, I think we're all, a lot of people are. I think everyone's, like, confused because everyone's, like, missing plot points here there. I know. I keep saying the comments, too. They're, like, all over the place. All over her.

Yeah. the video that just came out is from 2023, but it all kind of stems because there was another event at the end of February that kind of was bad enough that the other girls in the cast of Secretized Mormon wives

got together, had a Zoom meeting with ABC and Hulu and we're like, we don't want to film anymore, basically. So it was that bad. McKay confirmed that. Like the girls got together and were like uncomfortable filming with Taylor because of what just happened.

So it was that bad that they didn't want to film with them. February of this year. I guess a couple weeks ago. Yeah, that's, I think that's why. I think it's like, yeah, I think that's where we lose. The video shot, we were like at the beach and I had seen it right before and then you were texting and then it was like this whole thing. And I was like so, it was so shocking. We're at the beach, by the way, with people who have no idea who take the Frank Paul, which is like explaining it to them.

I was telling you, I was telling someone about it and someone thought I was, my friend thought I was talking about Ruby Frankie, the abusive mom. People do get that confused. And they're like, how could you even watch a show about Ruby Frankie and everything she did. kids and I was like, okay. Different Frankie. Different Frankie. Although Chad Frankie, her son is on TikTok and it's my favorite thing ever. He's giving story times of that period of his life.

And he talked about how he, they had a Universal Studios brand deal and they got flown to Florida and they got like two hours in the park just like to do whatever. But they had to film like some pictures and videos in front of the thing. So they all had to like jump or whatever. He's like, I was a kid. I just want to go like play the rides or whatever. But his mom was like just one shot. But obviously it wasn't more than one shot.

She kept wanting to do different shots and stuff like that. And they just like weren't going on the ride. So every picture, like they were supposed to be jumping. He was just always like flicking off the camera. And like videos, he's in the background flicking off. So they couldn't use anyways. They get home. They send the content over to the editor for the brand deal.

And the brand was basically like, it was for wet ones, he said. And so they were basically like, uh, we can't make payment because all of it is just him flicking the camera off. And everyone's like, they actually should pay you because that actually saved them from having horrible PR. Oh, yeah. To be associated. Yeah. So I thought that was interesting. And really funny.

Honestly, good for him. Unless he got like, I don't know, she abused him. I don't know. Maybe she got like, I don't know. Probably. I would assume some kind of trauma. Yes, he did talk about a little bit about it. So anyways, side note, sidebar from there. But Taylor Frankie Paul is not Ruby Frank.

We know that. But it is wild. I actually never seen the internet so split up and so divisive and also so hardcore. Like the people who are like Taylor Frankie Paul defenders defending her, Dakota, Dakota and Taylor both on social media reposting. Girl. Reposting. And someone, one of the ones I follow, I love him.

I think his name's Holden actually. I think I met him. Did you see it? Yeah. He's like, Taylor's like, what do you want me to do? Just like sit and stare at a wall. He's like, yes, that's what you should be doing right now. It is, it is crazy.

The reposts is wild. The comments. Yeah, it's like, girl, when you're getting canceled, you got to just put the phone down. She went to the Brooks Schofield School of like handling cancellation because like, girls, we got to put our phones down. Yeah. It's not good.

Yeah. It's bad for mental. It's bad for PR too to be chiming in. Yes. Yeah. It's better to just. it was crazy because on Wednesday we filmed the Thursday episode so on Wednesday she had just

done that Good Morning America so everything seemed like on course oh yeah I literally said in the last episode we filmed I was like 95 I said first I was like I bet my life I'm 95% sure the show the Bachelor Right is still gonna come out I went back and edited that out with the quickness because that was bad I'm like I can't say I would bet my life that the Bachelor is going to air and then it's not airing I was like girl let me get in the editing tool poop and cut out.

I'm sure some, I'm about 20,000 people already saw it before I cut it. Okay, I love that you do that. I unsend too. When I was like, I'm talking to agent Lydia and I was like, the identity starts the same time as like my book tour. I've given up on that because my book tour is happening. She goes, take that back as everything you say and whatever.

And I was like, just kidding. I'm going to unsend. I'm going to be on dancing at this. I like, you know what I mean? Because it's just like, anyways, that's interesting. Yeah, because I really did think it would at least air. And then when the video came out and I saw it, I was like, oh, I don't know how they could possibly do it.

I did, oh, I know someone who saw the first five episodes of the Bacheloretto. Yeah, T. Ooh, that's good on during recounting. It's somewhat, no one from my work, another influencer that covers reality TV, kind of. But basically, his thoughts were like the first five episodes, it was really entertaining. And TFP provided the spectacle and stuff. And he said that it did come across that she was actually there for the right. reasons, which I kind of gathered to you.

It seemed like she did want to go and like have a reset. So I don't, I do kind of agree with that. But he said that, um, the problem is the show focused so much on how much she loves her kids and how great of a mom she is. Like they leaned in so heavy. So then when that video came out, that's, in his opinion, like, it just goes so against what he saw on the show. So it's like, how could you possibly air this show that focuses so much and leans in on

the motherhood and then have that video? That makes sense. Yeah. That makes sense. Because they obviously knew. about the domestic violence incident and stuff. It was the first episode of Mormon wives and she talks about it openly.

Like they obviously knew about it. Obviously they didn't see the video. And the way she describes it in podcast is very different than how the video. So that I think was the most, I think that's the most drawing thing. I feel like that's the one thing. And I like, I didn't want to go on social

me to add to the discourse because people were just so passionate either way. Like if you defended for Taylor or if you're like, no, she wasn't the wrong. Like they were so passionate. I was like a little scared. So I'm like, let me just keep it for justice. But I think that was the big thing.

I think that people were like, because some people glazed over it. And I feel like it's the young people who don't have kids are just like, yeah, the kid was in there. It was bad. But what it did. And then like, I think that's it. I think once there's like a kid involved and like it, she did get like hit and like there's like no denying it. Whether Dakota used her as a shield and knew it and whatever, whatever.

There's the child's in the room. And as soon as she was like, mommy, like, I don't, I think, I think everyone can agree no matter the fit of rage that you're in or whatever. I feel like when your kid is there, you just know to end it. You just know to like, okay, let's just remove the situation. I mean, we don't even like fight. I have a very big like personality disorder and stuff like that where I get like triggered whatever. And I just like the number one thing is like you don't do it in front of the kids.

Like you just like remove yourself or if you're going to be a danger like that. You remove the kid if you think he's going to be a danger or something like that. So, you know, I'm obviously not one to judge. But I feel like once there's like a child in the room of it. She said she thought he was upstairs. Because I've seen videos that explain that before of this happened, he locked her in the garage. and you can imagine that if you're locked away from your kids like the kids are in the house

you're locked in the garage away from your kids and she was like she was basically in mode of like fight or flight trauma responding to everything and being intoxicated being somewhat postpartum because I think she went for a miscarriage so like everything was working against her

I think in general I think it's a lose loose situation like trying to defend anyone because there's no defense to anyone anyone this is a toxic relationship but all I'm saying like I can see how this is a blackout situation she does not see anything in that moment she somebody said she was trying to get him out of the house right because they weren't married he didn't have kids with her she's trying to get him he was abusing her so I don't know if that's true but if the case was that she's feeling in danger

she wants him out of the house she's doing everything she can because you just locked her in the garage away from the kids so I know it just seems like one of those situations where you just don't see You don't hear anything. You just, I don't know. I don't. I think I would agree with you 100% everything up into the point where the chair hits the daughter. It's like, mommy.

And you just like here at the end. And I think at that point, you snap out of it. I mean, I've been in psychosis. I've been drug and use things. And I think there is a point even before I had kids where like, oh my gosh, what did I just do? And it's like obviously like people said like the afterwards like it just continued. She didn't stop. But it was like, I don't know.

I just think when there's like a kid's like just nothing. there can be like no excuse for like violence in front of a child because it's also dramatic even fighting my parents were like physically abusive but just hearing them like yeah I mean in front of a child it's like traumatic it's traumatic but then that on top of it and now it's everywhere it's just like um yeah I don't know I'm I sympathize too of course yeah like postpartum and then dealing with that and people were saying like reactive abuse like all of that stuff which is something I haven't dealt with but like of course she did was wrong and what it's it's a lose lose situation there's no way to say something thing that is 100% true.

Yeah, but I think it's valid to have canceled the show because it is just an elevated thing. And there was another incident that happened a month ago with allegedly their other child ever. So it's just like, but it is sad. There's no, there's literally no good in this, obviously. It's just awful. It's like awful. And you just feel for the kids and her, the father of that child, Tate, who was like,

we used to make TikToks with Taylor. He's reposting stuff like a minute and a half of Taylor like downplaying the incident, which, you know, she did. And it's like, again, being in those situations, I think it's just, I don't know. She didn't make light of it, right? She goes, oh, just note to self, like, don't throw things. And, you know, it's not, you know, I guess it's like a good, I guess it's not good. It's like a lesson to be like, this is not like something people take lightly.

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that means like, oh, you side with Dakota, which I think that's where we're getting a little lost. Because I see that a lot too. It's like, okay, but he did this, this and this. But it's like, yeah, well, he sucks too. Like, I don't think Dakota should be platformed at all. Like, especially, mind you, a week ago, I had no idea who any of these people were. And now I know everything about them. I know everything too now, too.

It's crazy. My brain, I'm making a Mormon-wise brain fog. It is kind of crazy. No, he's the worst. He's terrible. I think he's worse than anyone. like Zach's like a toe whatever but like he's an he's awful we've seen him be awful he has that control he's like I've been another relationship but he keeps her in control like he's obviously what

it's obviously they're very toxic for too he is awful and it's awful like they said too like he could have like left you know what I mean he didn't go out the door and like there's all this is in whatever on this one Taylor was in the wrong Taylor through something it got physical at the child Taylor's in the wrong period yes there's so many other things that could have happened they could have left he could have left whatever but like that's it and yeah he's also awful but you know, and then it's just toxic because then they chose to have like a kid together after all this. You know what I mean? And it's just, I think when something like that happens, right, you either like work through and like it does, you know, things change or you move on. And obviously things

didn't change because there was another incident that was just reported. And Dakota just got temporary custody of ever, which is like a really big deal because I think in general moms rarely lose custody of their kids. So for at least a couple weeks, there's no parental contact, which I think is the saddest part of all of it. I think that's so sad. The children kind of don't know, I feel, and so to not have, like, not be able to see their mom. I think it's awful, or maybe it was just ever that he got caught.

So he might just ever. But still, it's like, he's two. He needs his mom. And I think it's all sad. It's all awful. I guess if anything, like I said, it's just like a lesson, the severity of, like, what happens and why, if anything happens like this with the kids involved,

just take your kids because you just never know which way could go. Who's filming what, for whatever reason? Maybe Dakota was being impulative and filming. Who knows? But the fact is, now her child has taken. taken away until April and it that's I you know it's I don't know if you saw there was one video that come the side by side of the Gabby Petito body cam and and of their arrest and the rest of Frankie and it's one-to-one the same like she's crying and apologetic and the

guy's like calm and he's not even in danger like he's filming this very calm but the end result was like oh you've been abused you like the police tell both guys you've just been a victim of an assault and that it was very interesting because to see that and to see like I said if he's okay you're not to the quota you're not the one that is blanking out right now intoxicated all that you actually have your mind clear and you're calm you're filming and you're calm and you're talking narrating leave the situation to do the right things so nobody gets hurt even if like he's not he's I think he has been manipulative in that moment. I think just aside from Dakota and obviously that Brian guy, but I think aside from them,

I think like men can be victim. And I think sometimes you do report for evidence. It can be. Yeah, but I'm saying. But here the evidence that we see is that that that's not the case. He didn't de-escalate the situation. He was, he kept it going. She asked him to leave and he kept, mind you, he locked her in the garage a minute before. Like, that's not like if somebody locks you away from your kids. I didn't see any of that. Who said that? I haven't seen any of that. she said it to the body camera she said it to the police and there's people that know her that said that i just think also being like if you record something and you're calm you're like not a victim i think you can be calm and just record stuff for a fact so i don't think that's like i think that's why they

were comparing it to the gabby patea situation um yeah i don't know about that but my problem with it is just that like she that again it was 2023 and i think if she did just have that like growth that character development yeah since then but instead i mean i still have the go back and watch one, two, and three. But season four was great. Like, I literally was sick of the girl by the end of it. And this was even without even thinking of the Bachelorette stuff. But just to see someone make terrible decision after terrible decision after terrible decision

at like 32. We have everyone, your family, your sister, your mom, all your friends, every single person. A stepdad who's been around. She kind of made it seem like, oh, I don't have a dad. This is why. But your stepdad's been with you. You have, like, beautiful kids who, like, love you. And, like, no one is, like, nothing they say can, like, encourage you to, like,

just try to better yourself when you know what this like man has done to you or like made you do in 2023 it's like how and i know there's like a whole bunch of mental stuff in there too but like at some point you got to be responsible and yeah remove yourself from the situation see like get how but instead i think she just leaned so much into like i'm just messy and chaotic like that's just me i'm just a messy chaotic girl like yeah i'm gonna go i'm gonna hate him but then i'm gonna hook up with him then I'm going to hate myself. Like she just leans into that being her brand so much that like she can't pull herself out and be like, oh, I'm actually making terrible decisions.

I was going to affect my family forever. But I think she was like profiting off of the chaos so much. Yes. It kind of just enabled it. Yeah. You know, instead of like having the self-awareness like better yourself. Like she's like, oh, everyone loves me because I'm messy and chaotic. And I'm going to call out the girls who sleep with my ex-baby and my ex and my baby daddy.

Like she just got like a pass. on the back every time she was messy. And that's why at the end, the girls are like, you are throwing everything away. You have the opportunity of a lifetime to be the Bachelorette, which all of us would die to have. Like, we love you, we're happy for you, but like, you don't even care enough about it.

You're going to sleep with them again right before and you're going to miss your flight. Like, you're putting out, you're putting the production in Jeopardy 2. These people are like waiting for you to come. Like, you have 30 guys who are excited to meet you and you're just throwing that all away. Oh, it gets like chills.

It makes me so sad. I know. It's so sad. illustrated with her. I'm like, girl, I'm kind of sick of the antics. Like, help me help you. Like, we're all rooting for you. Literally, I felt very much, Tiffany, we're all rooting for you. Taylor, we're all rooting for you. Girl. I know. That's why it's when I see these reposts of like, obviously very passive aggressive things. Like even her statement was very, uh, that her, I guess, public or something put out very, you know, oh, another attention seeking desperate thing.

It's like, yes, maybe. And we, and a lot of people see that, obviously, like, Moses and like half the internet. Like, a lot of people are seeing that the timing of it all and the desperation. Yes, we see that, but it's like taking no accountability to be like, this was awful and I'm deeply embarrassed. And like, I think that should have been like the start of it rather than like, you could have let the internet judge Dakota, which they did. And the people see that side. But the fact that that her statement was that. And then the reposts are just like passive aggressive, just like, girl, like trust me. I'm seeing the girl. Like he is also enemy of the state. Every man of dad talk minus you Connor, you sweet king. Every, chase, maybe I don't know, every other man in that group.

Like I see it for you. You are an enemy of this state over here. Yes. Trust me. So you don't want more of you. Convince me. No one needs to convince me that Dakota is a menace and diabolical and manipulative. And he's planning every time you get an opportunity, he is there trying to make you self-destruct.

Trust me. I see it. But at some point when it's been so many years and you see just how bad it gets you and you have every opportunity. Like she has so much privilege. She has access to so many resources. Like at some point. God is just like, we can't do all the work for you. Like you have to help yourself.

Help me help you. Yeah. That's what the frustrating part because like you said, she has all the resources and the privilege. Think about all the people who like don't have that in some situations. And it's just, it's frustrating. And it's frustrating for everyone because you share your life, right? Like I can't ask like, this is what you want, right?

This is you're the influencer. You're on the reality shows. This is like what you do. And the thing is so many people like you for in like you said, all this stuff that's happened. And it's like we can only do so much because then it just gets exhausting. It's like a friend in real life who just keeps going back to like a talk to at some point, you just got to like, cut it off and just be like, I can't do this because

this is like really sad to watch and dangerous. And even like her eyes too, the second he like does something to trigger her. Like you see the snap in her eyes like in Mormon wives. Like her eyes like in the way she goes off at everyone who like loves her and wants to like pull her out of it. Like she snaps. So like clearly she has like a rage issues truly. Yeah. And it's again, but when you see what your rage issues have like made you do at some point it's like how are we not how are we not getting yeah it's it's really simple as like and not simple because it takes me i do so much work on it too because i have anger issues too and it's like really recognizing like triggers and what to do to escalate your own triggers because someone could trigger you right there's so many people that trigger you maybe you're

justifiably like the victim and people are being awful and poking you for a reason but it's like your responsibility to handle that and know how to descalate that and it's it's not easy it's something you work on I constantly work on it. I feel like I have it all together, but I constantly work on it in everyday life. Like little triggers. It could be a food trigger. It could be anything. And some people would be like, oh my gosh, she sounds so crazy.

But it's like just recognizing what it is. And for me, it's like removing yourself from a situation, right? If something is that, sometimes you just need to calm down. I feel like sometimes you just need an hour. You need a little space go to sleep or something like that. I don't know. Different triggers for different people. But there is help for it.

Like you're not just going to be a messy girl. This is just who I am. Like it's like, no, it's not. Like there may be a chemical imbalance. side of the worst scenario for somebody like her because it's going from TikTok star to reality TV where that's all you've been compensated for and that's all they encourage her to do. So there's nobody. It's not like she's in a reality TV about improving her mental health.

It's a reality TV about drama. So all in a sense, like there's nobody around her. There's no situation where she'll get rewarded for being better. I think that's so wrong too because I think of like Whitney Levitt or me, right? Like my whole thing was if I was on the kitchen floor, literally, like if I was like on the kitchen floor, I would make so much money, right? And I was like, no one's interested in me being happy. Like I think breakup songs, when people write breakup songs, they want you to be miserable.

No one's interested in when people are happy. But I think that's so wrong in like this world we're living in now and the era that we're living in. I think people want people. I think like Whitney's a great example. Again, I haven't watched the first seasons either. So I don't know how horrible she was. But I mean, just like she just started like taking care of herself and stuff like that and just like whatever. I think people want to see that arc.

Connor too, right? Connor, like, has admitted in past episodes, obviously, like, his addiction to corn and, like, you know, Tinder and all stuff like that. Like, and people love him now because why? Because they, like, worked on it. Obviously, he got some help for it and stuff like that. And yeah, it was like a sh**y thing to do, but like they're open about it. They're honest.

And because they're doing better, people are like applauding it, right? Like a couple years ago, people are like Whitney sucks. Even on Dancing with the Stars, people were like, we hate Whitney. Yeah. You don't know idea. Me neither, right? There was this whole campaign. We hate her.

That's why she was six when she was, like, the best and the highest scores. But I think because she is doing so well. and they're so supportive and stuff like that. I think people want to see it. I think people think people think people think people think they want to see mess. And some people do. And I think that's why everyone was excited when she was the Bachelorette because there was an opportunity to get out of that toxic situation.

Like you can still be entertained. There's so many other parts of her personality that are entertaining and fun that are not the toxic. Yeah. Yeah. She's funny. She's cute. Like there is, she has a personality. And aside from that she has fans for just being her.

Yeah. Like literally just being a mom and stuff. And like the other girls too like Whitney. Layla too. like at the end of season four, she starts documenting her treatment for her ED. Yes. Yes. So the other girls, and like,

Michaela with her health struggles, like, she's documenting that and trying to like recover from that and also like overcoming like her issues with like, I guess she was like abused, sexually abused. And Macy too. Like they were like abused and like overcoming that. So I think everyone is like seated for the journey and like wants that. Yes. And that's kind of why it's like

frustrating. Especially the, her friend. Like her friends are like so supportive and like really trying so hard and they try to come for her and they try to not trigger her. They find out information. They're trying to like, okay, they have strategy meetings. How are we going to break this news to Taylor? Because like she got a leave for the bash right in four days. And like if we say this to her, maybe she won't go. Like they try.

They try so hard to like shield her from everything that is happening in Utah and Bravo, Utah. And nothing good is happening there, you guys. Nothing good is happening. Truly. I mean, Donnie Asman lives there. Maybe he's the only thing. And the pickleball seems fun every now and then. The pickleball tournament seems fun.

Swing. There's so much happening. Well, they're coming to... I heard now they're going to L.A., right? Everyone's moved to L.A. I heard that too. I think what's his name? Towe and Jen Affleck, they're here in L.A.

I think that was Whitney and Conner's plot. Like, they were supposed to be moved to L.A. Now they moved to Chicago. I heard Aspen Ovard, right? It's supposed to be one of the new girls. No. That's what those streets were saying that Aspen Ovard is supposed to be one of the new...

She Mormon? I guess. Right. She was married young. She's also a TikToker. Lesbian now. Oh, I didn't know. I think so.

I think she's dating. And I think they were like in a throuple or something. Whoa. I think I'm thinking of the right aspen. The blonde girl. Yes. Moved to the beach. Yes.

Yeah. And it's so wild. You're just like, oh my God. Just Mormon's gone wild. That's the new. That's the spinoff. That's right. And I think Mormon-wise specifically they love to see the arc because they were just regular

people right? Just like YouTubers or anything. When you see a regular person like achieve like dreams and stuff, it's like really inspiring. I think love is blind and stuff and like those, maybe they're seated for messier. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know. You're like a 90-day fiance.

You're kind of there for like the self-destruction. But you do grow an attachment to them and you do kind of want the best for them. You don't want to see them be happy. Right. It's like, yes, the Coltons of the world will always be just a mess and he should just lean into that because that's you, I guess. But like I think with Mormon wife specifically, it is just like these like regular Mormon wives, you know, they were Mormon not anymore and whatever.

And they're achieving big things. And I always said that. I always think that's the most impressive things in 2020. like no one knew who these people were and then all of a sudden it's like they're the biggest like Whitney's selling out Broadway every single night and then all of them they're all getting opportunities obviously Taylor and all of them but um yeah it's it's it's wasted it's wasted and it's like how many chances does someone get right it's like people will just get like sick of it and there's always people always want to see like a comeback a redemption I think it could happen and like I feel like always

you have to start with your kids like do it for your like your kids because like this is all very public and it's all very sad you know and they'll see it one day if they're not seeing it now And she had a good co-parenting relationship with Tate, the father of her first two children. So the fact that he's reposting stuff and how, you know. And Miranda and Layla are issuing statements like why they don't want to film with her too. I think that's other big things that her friends who stood by her through the first, like in 2020, they stood by her through all that are now being like, look, we can't condone this. Like we don't want to be a part of it.

So I think that's big too. We'll see what comes out of this like second investigation. Again, Dakota is definitely a. menace and also needs to be held accountable. And obviously, I mean, in my opinion, it's pretty obvious. He's working with like TMZ. And also Jordan, who was also, I could literally be at the gates of heaven if I pass away and I'll be like, hold that big eye.

I have to go back and deal with something. I don't even care if God is trying to embrace me into his arms at the gates of heaven. I'm coming back down as a spirit to haunt you Jordan Nogget. I don't remember your last name, but Jordan, I'm coming back to haunt you. I did, but I can't even pronounce it. Yeah. Because I know he. also saw, because the day that TMZ report,

she lose, uh, Taylor loses the bachelorette, Jordan's like, hold on, hold on. I'm also filing for divorce from Jesse. Oh, I was like, Jordan. Yes. Yes. And I'm like, who might go to jail allegedly.

Yes, yes. From Chase's sister. Oh my gosh. And I'm like, okay, like literally it's the butterfly release all over again. Was he the butterfly person? Yes. No. We can't have a moment to process.

TFP losing a bachelor. Yes. Oh my. He has to be like, oh, hold on, TMZ. Um, I'm also filing for divorce. Like, shut up. Like, shut up. Like, shut up.

Please. Wait, he's the worst. I do not remember his face to save my life. I wish I had your brain because I hate that I know his face so well. Oh my God. His wife is the hairdresser, right? Yes, Jesse, yes. Who's gorgeous and she just said she hated her plastic surgery.

It's like they're all real. Which I love. I love the women. The men are diabolical. Dakota, yes, echo that sentiment. Dakota is triggering a app. I want everyone to know. Like, he is triggering.

But again, it's like her responsibility to get away from it. He's awful. So that should be a, I hope, like, he knows. never gets a girlfriend again to quote more from traitors. It's like he's awful. And he's awful. And he's in his sober journey. And during sobriety, like, it's all about like spirituality and just like being open to everything. The fact that he's like this in his sobriety, allegedly, I guess, someone had said that Taylor didn't want to lead. This is, I don't know if I should say this one. I don't know. It was like this whole thing is that they might be using drugs together is what they

suspected. And that may be coming, going away for that long would be like the withdrawals. That was like just a rumor I heard online like whatever. But. it may make sense or may give like reasoning behind maybe this kind of behavior in front of the kids if they were on some sort of substance besides just drinking because I think like alcohol. I mean, I've been drunk. I've been blackout. I think you could have you have you have some aware. Obviously if you're like roof feed or something you don't, but like you're not like throwing chairs. I think it's like you have some awareness as opposed to like maybe taking a substance might be more, make you more erratic, maybe more blackout.

Again, not an excuse. But it wouldn't make sense. And maybe that's why she didn't want to leave. for so long. Dakota's awful. Oh, what's his name? Jordan. Jordan.

That is wild. It's like I don't want him to, maybe he did it. Are they friends? Maybe he did it to take away some of the, like, on purpose to be like, let me put something else in there.

The timing is crazy. It's like, oh, it just, it reminds me so much of the butterfly release. It was like, damn, here is Michaela trying to release the butterflies for Lottie June and the two other beautiful babies.

And he had to take away the spot. from Lottie June and the babies. Who's Lottie June? Mikaela's baby. I just remember seeing the little sign that they made at the Sip and See. They made the little name cards with the baby's names. And I saw Lottie June. I was like, that's a cute name.

I actually really love that name. I do like Lottie June. That's really cute. I like that. And then, of course, like someone else is like taking all the attention and he has to throw his hat in the ring too. Probably because he's allegedly going to jail, according to his sister.

Maybe he's like, I got to get this out before I go. Yeah, because I guess the T is this is all kind of alleged. This is all very alleged, actually. Jesse had been wanting to file for divorce, and he was aware that she was going to do it, which in the show we see her going through the pre-nop and having the discussions, like, as the five-year curse, because her last marriage also ended at five years.

And they were celebrating the five-year anniversary, and I was like, and your last, Jordan. So they were already kind of hinting that it was going that way. But I guess, like, off-camera, Jesse was talking. talking to him about wanting a divorce, there was allegedly a rollout plan that she was going to go on call her daddy and like air everything out. For the divorce? Yeah, like the post-divorce press conference.

And I guess the reporting is that Jordan kind of wanted to get ahead of it and filed first, like beat her to the actual filing and then went to TMZ allegedly, but probably. And he did give a statement to TMZ, and actually is pretty clear he did go to them. And there's like a clause in this new filing or whatever and then that she can't go on podcast and talk about him. And then the rumors on TikTok is that because he's been spending money on things allegedly such as escorts and other like gambling stuff and stuff like that. I don't actually think he will be going to prison. I think he issued a statement to another TikToker who reached out to him and was like, I have no idea what these prison allegations are. But the concept of it

tickles me I like the concept of him being behind bars and away from me jail well you know not to critique Mormonism too much

but it does seem like they restrict them a little too much and then they go a little wild if it's like gambling alcohol escort you know what I mean yeah they go

literally they go swing in yeah right right they look from the Amish people you know go off the grid yeah no at 18

they give them an opportunity go live your life If you like it, stay out. If you don't come back to the community. I wouldn't mind being Amish, to be honest. Like, that is kind of nice. You're kind of just like not on social media and just no electricity and you're just like bacon pies.

It sounds kind of fun. I suppose. Like, it sounds simple in the best way where it's like there's probably no drama. You think there's Amish drama? Oh, I'm sure. Really? Yeah. Because that's all they have.

Wow. That's all you have is the human connection. Like the lady was out. Just like Bridgeton. Yes. Right. There's nothing to do. It's an American.

Yeah, just a little gossip. Oh my God, we would thrive in that era. And in the Amish world, we'd have lots of goss. Where do you get the gossip if you can't get it from TikTok? You are the gossip, Mama. Like, yeah. People just make up their own words about you? Yeah.

And there'd be someone. I would be like a lady whistled down here because I can't keep it to myself. I love to chat. Did you see who came out of the barn with them? I love it. Yeah. Damn. I think I'd pick being Amish over being Mormon.

From this, yeah, I think. so because it's all kind of been a recipe for disaster. I think, right, there's, looking at them, the only one still married, I guess, are, as Zach and Jen, I guess a Macy and Jacob too. Yeah. That's it, right? And Winnie and Conner. Oh, yeah, Winnie about, in my head, she's already left, I guess.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's been gone, she's like, I'm going, which is, everyone now is like, no, it makes sense. Because everyone, like, oh, you only came back for Dancers, like, yeah, because, like, why else would I be? Why? Yeah, messy. And I love Whitney now. Again, it's crazy that I know, me too. I can't fathom a week ago

I had no clue who these people were and I watched all the season four since then I wanted to start season one yesterday but Darian said we need to take a couple days break because I was getting really worked up

yeah I was getting really worked up it's a lot I don't have even started it I thought with Moses maybe you should watch it to like get what we're like obviously you get what we're talking about like get it but then I'm like

yeah because once you see these girls in action it really it changes things the perspective is crazy and also the men are crazy the men are crazy like that's to me it's like, yeah, and Zap too posting during all of this. I commented.

I said, nobody cares. Nobody cares about this. God, what did he post? He's a posting a lot. He's a number one. He made fun of Connor in a recent TikTok. He said, I saw that with the magic. He said, I'm going to get into magic, you guys,

and picking up a hobby for myself. And then he flicked off the camera. I'm like, okay. Okay, pack it up. Honestly, watching the two of you, I don't want to let them ruin my peace in life. That is, genuinely, I applaud you for that. Hashtag, protect. your piece. And if I could go back again to a week ago and tell myself one thing, I probably would say

that. No. It's your job, baby. You got to be, we got to be plugged in for this. Okay. It's true. It's a sacrifice. It is my cross to carry. But damn, damn, I have been upset. Like, I literally would watch it like before bed and it would take me hours to calm down because I was so mad. Yeah. I was so mad. Even on TikTok, I still keep seeing. I mean, I cannot see this anymore. Like, obviously, Like, yeah, when there's updates, like, I'm sure there will be an update. Like you said, tomorrow, 10.30 a.m. There's going to be like an update. And it's been content.

It changes. And there could be videos of Dakota locking you in the garage. And then all of a sudden you change because you're just like, what that? You know, there's so much that just changes and stuff all the time. But just based on what we see now, it's just. But, you know, there's still people like, because is the Bachelorette leaking clips? Someone said that they were like leaking clips to take test the water. Because there was like a one at, like, was it a, like, was it a, where were they a baseball game?

I don't know. There was somewhere. She was with somebody. definitely the highest demand ever for a show now to see The Bachelorette. I think it will go like on the dark web or something. Like people want to watch it. Yeah. They want to see it.

Yeah. I think they did the right thing when there's like a child involved. Right. I feel like because the child was hit, it was like, okay, because that wasn't, that's new. I think that's like the new thing that no one knew. And obviously this open investigation that's happening right now, maybe, but if it was heavily focused on her being mom, obviously, that's where people are going to be like, yeah. I think it's right. I think like you said, people would watch. We'd be all seated. I think it's like the right.

That's just her, too, the men. Like, people are already analyzing all the men that are on the show. Oh, someone else got arrested. One of the guys that got arrested on there. And we can at Patreon because it's music. So basically the bachelor's winner, Doug, is an R&B singer. And we can. You know, Doug?

Oh, I know Doug. We can review songs on Patreon. Yeah. Oh, he's a Patreon singer? No, he's a singer, but you just can't play music here. Oh, dude, I thought he was like selling his songs on Patreon. I'm like, love that. SoundCloud rapper.

I should see, but... Yeah, they're all... They all have aspirations. I think Harry Jazzy, once again, bringing light into these situations is he said when he did... What's his first show? I forgot too hot to handle.

He said he moved from Australia to L.A. before it even aired with, like, no money or anything because he's just, like, hoping the show to be successful and, like, banking on the opportunities you'd get. And I think that's why everyone does reality shows. I don't think, like, there's... I don't think someone goes on reality to be solely for love. I think, like, if you can find it great.

I feel like that's very us, right? Like, if you can find it great, But I don't think anyone does it solely for that purpose. I think they all want a little, a little fame, a little bump in their business, whatever it is. I think they all want a little bit of that. So that does suck that now none of them get that because they do have to take time off work. They get like no pay, this whole thing. So I think in that sense, people feel bad for the guys, but I never really feel bad for guys in general.

Yeah. And there are allegedly the rumors are that there are being optioned now for Bachelor in Paradise. So keep those dreams alive boys The people we haven't seen? Yeah. Nobody cares. Sorry, but like we don't care if we haven't seen you. But I like that.

This Doug, this winner. He's like, this is my time. His artist name is toned bone. Awful. And literally the second you hear him saying, it's like, awful. TFP, like you are never going to escape the grips

of like a corny white man, I fear. I fear. Is it? Oh, girl. This music videos. It's rock. Okay. Patreon.

Let's play it. I need to hear. That's embarrassing. The second. second I saw him sing and then also like the dancing and stuff I was like this is all making sense and he's been issuing out statements in support of taylor and stuff and taylor replied that she's grateful for his support and blah blah blah but it's like she chose you and went so back to dakota like what are you doing like let's let's just stay silent on this one i don't know like it's kind of wild the whole thing is wild it's a mass it really and like literally there's just it's been so much unfurling and like if you're not watching Mormon wise right now take it for me you got if you're strong enough because it is really annoying and you will be annoyed if you're not watching it but if you love mess and if you can if you have mental capacity to take it on watch it because it's really a changed my life but like everything's been

happening to everyone all that once like we have everything with taylor okay so that's one thing and then again everything with jesse now with her marriage like what's going to happen after that i do feel bad because like as the season like when she was doing doing all these little activities to get Taylor ready and like practice for the Bachelorette like the speed dating and stuff that woman's eyes had a lightness in her that I never saw with her husband like you could tell she wishes she was Taylor like and having that opportunity to go on the Bachelorette and just like experience that like you know how badly she wanted that and Jessie let's keep the hope alive maybe you'll be the Bachelorette although

there was rumors that like double yeah there was a rumor that came out of nowhere but that Miranda and Lela could be the double Bachelorette because they have done the two Bachelorette before. And I love those queens. Was Gabby a double bachelorette? Gabby Wendy? Yeah. Wasn't her?

And there was one before that. It was Caitlin Bristow. I believe. Another bachelor. I was her, I believe, her and another brunette. Two brunettes were bacheloretts together at one point two.

Have you seen the connection of Nick Vile to the bachelorette? He is. He takes responsibility for like a true, hate this word. I don't use it lightly, narcissist. One person was responsible for Taylor Frankie Paul, just one.

Well, it's happened. Taylor Frankie Paul is your next bachelor. You're welcome Bachelor Nation. You're welcome ABC. People, your haters are trying to say that you have an inside source and that's the only reason that you got it right. What do you mean? It was literally my idea three months ago.

I gave him the idea. He is the source. I am the source. Do you not see his comment? They asked Nick. No, you're right. They had the idea on their own and then someone called me up just to be like, just so you know, three months ago, by the way.

Nick was like, this will save the franchise if you guys want to do it. You should. You should. Maybe I know a little bit about this world. I don't know. Producing, creating. You know. It's going to be great.

It's going to be fantastic. I'm glad the people who make these decisions finally. Made a good one. Made a good one. Yeah. Hopefully don't f*** it up. Always on the wrong side.

I just have so much bias against him. I hate to come on this because I just hate him. I just really do. And I can't be unbiased. So maybe give your unbiased thoughts on that. I don't know. Oh, I am fully biased.

What a diabolical man. And honestly, that's what you get. If they really listen to him and they took some advice from him, that's what you get. That's what you get. If you take your advice from someone who sucks, that's what's going to happen. It's going to explode in your face. You know, I'm happy that Nick Vial has a successful podcast. Obviously, you need to provide for your family.

And I feel like they should just stay in that lane. I love it for them. Honestly, if you have a Vial fan and go into the Vial files, like, love it. They seem like they're doing well. whatever, I think everybody else needs to stop listening to them. I think if ABC took the bachelor's advice, sorry Netflix, but age of attraction is getting more diabolical. Did you see this week where the 60-year-old with the 23-year-old was like, oh, I'm cool

with your celibacy, but then chastised her for what she would do versus, he's like, but if we're doing everything else, then you're not actually celibate. Like he was being so awful. He said he was okay with it, but then wasn't. And then she's like, okay, so we're like good and we're just like go our separate ways. Like it was so insane, like the manipulation he was doing because she said she was celibate, but like let him do other things.

but then he was like judging her for that. The show is awful. I don't know how to still on. Like, honestly, they should pull this. I love how, like, the Bachelor gets canceled right, but this is also diabolical,

manipulative, all the, like, borderline abusive, in my opinion with these, like, older men and these younger girls, like, judging them on national TV

for this stuff. Like, it looks so bad. It looks so bad. And, you know, I just, you know, I don't want to, like, point the blame,

but once again, if Nick Viya, like, created this show. It's like, just stay in your podcast world, we have fans. You know what I mean?

Very much, you know, like ours too. I'll stay in this little lane. We have our fans, whatever. That's where you need to do. Because the fact that he said he gave ABC the idea and they listened to him, allegedly, I guess. And then the age of attraction, it's like three strikes you're out. And I think we've had three, four, five, five, five, five strikes you're out,

six strikes, I think we're done. Your fans can still like you, which is that's the beauty of the internet and the podcast. Like you can have a podcast in your own fan base. And if you just stay in that corner, everything is great and you can make money. I think when you start to venture out, it's like, be open to judgment. When I saw the interview with them and like the blue wall behind them, just so uncomfortable. Oh, the press junket.

Just so crazy. Him just being like blaming her for the relationship. She pursued me. I don't know. I don't want it. And I'm like, ah, she was 19. Like you're weird. You're weird.

And I don't like you. And that, yeah. Watching that, I just like, ugh. I just, ugh. It's just the arrogance of it all. Yeah. The arrogance. Yeah.

He's just a menace. Too many of these men are menaces. Zach, I cannot see. stand you, Jordan. I cannot stand you, Jordan, I cannot stand you, Zach. Mason, I don't know what he did, but I know you saw Layla's TikTok about, like, when she was talking about her ex-boyfriend. So Mason, I know you did something.

Also, he was just always, like, trying to tell her how to parent. Like, your kids should be, they're manipulating you. Meanwhile, not a father. Like, 24. Like, don't know you've been dating a year. Like, if anyone ever tried to say my kids were manipulating me, I mean, out. Out. And, like, thankfully she left as, like, musty, but, like, out.

And then she was like no hard feelings in like a TikTok lighter check. Actually, hard feelings. Actually, he's the worst. Yeah, I remember when you told me the story. I didn't know what she was. But now that I didn't know her, it's like, Layla, queen, I got your back. I will see you to the ends of the earth. Yes.

New boobs and all. You look great. You do not need musties. She got signed to a modeling agency. Her dream came true. Yes. Lila, you are queen. Michaela, love you too.

Girl. You did do me a little dirty because literally Whitney came to the stem cell, to her stem cell treatment for our illness. But then kind of just stood there as. Jen was trying to eat Whitney up and I was like ladies we got to get serious it's the get serious challenge mom talk like let's let us get involved in the get serious challenge it's the new challenge where you try to be serious because you're kind of letting Jen like run amuck and trigger Whitney and make her look all kinds of crazy and like we got look Miranda shout out to you Miranda because Miranda did say actually Jen that's true Whitney had your back so shout out Miranda for sticking it to her. but Jen was running amok and the girls let her do it. And Zach was trying to say, this is what I said, nobody cares this past weekend.

He was trying to still bring up the drama of him going to meet up with Whitney. He's like, oh, he's like two truths in a lie. And he's like, oh, production had you go meet. Did you see all that production had you go me? And like you, not that you wanted to, whatever. Like just all this like, nobody cares anymore. You were awful. You've been awful.

You were the worst. You were mean to her for no reason. Like, you're awful. And your wife's a little awful too. I have, I hope, I'm hoping she has redemption. Like Jen, I feel like there's a little redemption. I think your husband just needs to like stay silent. You can stay married to him, but we just don't want to see him.

Yeah, because the problem is Zach has been doubling, driveling down on being a menace. He's like, yeah, this is who I am. I'm going to be this way. This is my wife. Whitney's a narcissist. Like he keeps going on and on and on. First of all, it's very coincidental that everything that makes you look bad, you can blame on production. But everything that we like Jen for is her being herself.

So which one is it? Is it production making look good? Because that's what he said. Every time someone brings up something nice Whitney did, that was production making her do it. Really? So you could say the same thing for you. Also, again, shout out to Miranda

because Miranda has also chined in on this discourse and said production has never made them do something that they didn't want to do. Shout up Miranda. She's keeping everyone at 100. I think she has the book deal. I think she's the first one that has a book deal from when I heard through the grapevine.

I think she does. I think Miranda's the first one because I think she's the one who's one of her first fathers of her children died in an accident. No, that's Macy. Okay, that one I think has a book. Yes.

Miranda is. Miranda is the one who was with Chase. Her friend is Shania. Shania is the one that hooked up with Dakota. Yes. Oh, girl. I mean, these women.

It's a mess. Yeah, Zach has just been going on and on and on, trying to drag everyone else with the mind. Zach is the worst. Like, just stop. You're not supposed to,

I think he thinks he's given Spencer Pratt in the Hill's villain and it's like, you're not, you're not even close. There's nothing. It's corny. It's corny. It's very corny. And just like half a mess and like meek.

And it's just like, okay, if you're going to be a villain, be a villain. but like you're doing it to women and just like a bully look weird. Yeah, so weird. And that supportive husband. You're not even supportive to her on camera. It's like whatever, but at least to have your wife's back if you're going to be like this tough macho guy, whatever.

But the fact that you're like threatened by everything she does is giving me. I think he was trying to stir the pot to get Jen to not want to be in LA. That's my theory because the concept of him being stuck in LA with like her working and being on dancing with the stars or other shows. She wants to do music and stuff. I think he was really riling her up and getting her. her to not be into that lifestyle because he wanted to go back to Utah and he wanted to be back back with dad talk. So he didn't want to be stuck with the kids while she was out living her dream. So I think he was ruffling her feathers and really getting things going to make her spiral a little

bit. So she would want to go back to Utah and give up the LA dream. That is my thesis. I think they're here. I think they're at the beach. I think they moved. I know. I saw that too, but she's still making music and all that. So we'll see what kind of music does she make. So we'll see what kind of music do she makes. Pop music I'm wondering like are you going to be a pop girl Or what exactly are you going to give? I don't know But it's rough because you got it

When everyone back But the thing is they stood 10 toes down And like this is what who we are And I don't care if it's not popular To be against Whitney I'm standing on business Blah blah blah Well girl now you have to deal

With the repercussions of that And everyone's disliking you I didn't even go after I watched The finale I'm like am I crazy Like do people like her Are they rooting for it? And I had to go to the comments

on their TikToks, Instagram, and everyone's saying the same thing, which was very validating. So, yes. Thank God. What a f*** mess. I cannot stand you. Jen, I'm still rooting for your beautiful girl. Like, I look at her face. And I gorgeous skin, so pretty.

I love, like, her talking voice. Like, she's so cute. I am rooting for you. You got to leave the man. He is bringing you down. He looks like an evil Pixar character. He looks like the evil villain in a Pixar movie. He is, like, diabolical.

He's nasty. He is, I think, the root of you. your insecurities come from him why you're mad at Whitney is because your man is whispering diabolical things in Tuesday. Yes. I think that's the reality, right? She's just obviously jealous, not even like of Whitney's opportunities. It's like the fact that she can get those opportunities because she has a supportive husband because they both had three kids, little kids at that. And if you don't have. And her dream was dancing with the stars. No one else got the dream. Whitney, you knew. You knew her dream is dancing with the stars and you dared be on

the show. As if Whitney's not the reason you got eliminated. If anything, maybe be mad at Andy. Andy is the one who could barely do a little one two step. He was the one that was really in your way. Like, he was sabotaging you. You should have been him. Like, Whitney was getting better scores than you. Like, why you met at Whitney and not like Andy, who was actually bad, but the Fandies were out there making sure he got higher, you know?

Or your husband who's like, wow, you're dancing with the Yon in front of the castle at Disneyland. It's like, yeah, because that's our promotion. That's all we need to do. You dumb. Like, that makes me so mad. He was sabotaging or the fact that he was mad about that. It's crazy. And there's a clip of Yon.

I think on a TikTok live she says something like one of the I don't know what she says like a rough day or whatever or like something about Disneyland and he's like no not that like he was like triggered by it you know what I mean like something like being it was awful and it was probably because her crazy husband was just like jealous of like it's just weird

he sabotages her from what we've seen on the show he's sabotaging you girl I hope not if he worked together great but just keep him off our feeds and our screens we do not want to see him take away his TikTok take away I wish I worked at TikTok where I could just take away I know me too. Freedom of speech except for a dad talk.

Yeah. You need a muzzle. Nick Val can have freedom speech on his podcast, but don't go anywhere else and disrupt all these women and these poor young women. Stay at a women's business. Yes, age of attraction. Okay. It just screams perv to me. If you did a show called Age of Attraction where all the old men and young men, they all want young girls.

These old women are like fighting for their lives here. It's just like it's awful. It's it's giving purve. It's giving disgusting. It's raw. But Whitney, girl, you are a sister to me. She's a client. She's a client of mine now officially.

She's been a client of mine. T. I've been. You've been. You've been speaking the truth. I've been loving. I'm with you. Like a year ago, I was like, I remember right before she dancing as Tars.

Like, we had a booker and it's like, oh, would you like Whitney? And I didn't know much about her. And then, like, it was too late by him. I'm like, I want Whitney. And then it's like she's a mega superstar. So it's amazing to see where she's, you know, all come from. People made a very good point to how much they canceled Whitney for her RSV, Nicky dance.

Did you remember that? Like people came so hard for her, not like one defense of her. The fact that she like took her child to the hospital because, you know, like there's so many like good things that she did. But they like criticize her so much for that. And then like Taylor Frankie Paul literally has a video of her. That's all I knew her for. Huh? That's all I knew her for.

Like that tick talk. Me too. That's all anywhere. And people. And me, I'm going to jump on that band. We get too. Everyone's like, oh my God. This is so cringy.

But it's like. But also she's one that she can have had that like whole character. after arc though like where she was you know kind of a menace yeah like she did that also the other girls didn't like her and then she had to like kind of prove herself as a friend to them and she did and that we see her be sweet to everyone and show up for everyone even like jeopardizing her own mental help to go fly back and forth Utah and LA to kind of show up for all the other girls and we see that and that's why we like her that's why we love her and very very that it's like but just keep the same energy if you're canceling for something a little insignificant what

you know what I mean and poor taste Yeah, I mean, she's had a baby. You're not really thinking clearly, whatever. So yes, but Taylor Frankie Paul has, like, this video of her, like, where a chair she threw here, her child. And people are like, well, you know, I don't know. People just don't keep the same energy. But we do love a character arc.

And even Taylor Frankie Paul, like you said, it's like never, it's never too late. And I think with her, you can only be given so many chances, especially with the same person with Dakota. Like, if this incident happened again, it's like, everyone needs help in this situation. Like, it's like you can't, it's weird because you can get restraining words and stuff, but there's nothing you can actually do to keep. people apart from each other.

Like there's nothing. Like, you know what I mean? And it's just like, it's just like so frustrating. You gotta just remove yourself from. Yeah. I just, I don't, I don't get it. And she has lots of suitors. We've seen it on the show.

There's that cute guy from TikTok and all these people. There's no shortage of men for her. Yeah, too. She just pop on a TikTok live. See a white boy singing. She's like, come to Provo, Utah. Come stay with me. Like, girl, shout up Ben.

He's so sweet, but Jesus. Ben is the. winner? The TikTok Live got it in the show Oh, oh, right. Yeah, Doug is the winner. Doug is the winner.

The singer. It's hard to keep all these. What's his name? Toma-Go? What's his singing name? Tone Bone. Tone Bone. Or something like that, yeah.

I really hate all men. Except for the men here. Ben and Tone Bone do look similar. She has a type. Like you said, Courtney. She does very much have a type. Maybe she should date Benson Boone. That's her type.

That might be, yeah. What's he doing? He's not doing much right now. I think he was just on tour. but yeah. He's like, the Lim Moss. Taco Bell. He's a ton.

I love that he's there. I didn't get invited. That's one brand I like to work at that. It feels she's breeder this morning and it was good. Yeah. All right. Well, we had an hour and a half of Mormon wife. So sorry.

I had a lot to get off my chest. I know. Apologies to anyone who's not into it. But my God, I had a lot to get off my chest today. That was rough. Maybe, um, Joe C-I should be the new bachelor. Oh, I wasn't supposed to mention her. I wanted to meet Michaela so bad, you guys.

I literally was like. Michaela Aguera Yeah sorry Yes Oh Double Macalas Double Macalas? Double Bachelored

double Michaela Both spelled the same Yeah Speaking of Really quick before I get into that But Michaela From Mormon wise did Taco Bell

Well she did a TikTok Where she used Michaela Nigeras Like I'm getting a divorce Oh with the Taco Bell fries She's eating Yeah and then Jayce walks behind her Oh no

It came out I think yesterday Who's Jace her estranged husband. Yeah. Not the one she's divorcing. She's divorcing Jordan. No, that's Jessie who's

divorcing Jordan. Michaela's the one. She's 25. She's the one who has a sickness. And she gave birth to Hawaii June. Oh, okay. And yeah, Jason is her husband with a curly hair.

Oh, yes. The quiet one with the curly hair. They're getting divorced. They're just, separated estranged right now. So like, just kidding. Look at it. He's behind me.

But she used his, Michaela from women wives used that. I'm getting a divorce sound. But is she getting divorced? People were like, is this like a clue that you're getting divorced? Bad manifestation out there. Don't, you know what I mean? Like, that's why I don't know if I liked you or not, because he also did a TikTok

where he was like with his kids to like a sound where like the kids were like slapping him and the text was like, women wise fans having to watch Dad Talk this season. And he was like taped and like on a chair or whatever. And the kids were like slapping him. I thought it was funny. It made me real. Oh, but. Nothing he does is funny.

But I also don't know who he is I can't remember his face either That's not the one who released the butterflies No, that's Jordan Jesus So many J's and M's He also doesn't have much of a personality He's pretty quiet

But he's the one that like They're having intimacy issues Because he like wants to have sex But she is unable to Michaela Oh yeah Because they have She has a health problem

She has health problems And then also she is like Overcoming the trauma from like When she was younger and stuff to you So it's like, yeah, the two, the double thing. I think that one, it's like, men, you need to like suck it up while they work through it. You know what I mean? Like you can go.

At least his benefit, he is. Yeah. Michaela's the one that said that maybe they should separate because while she kind of figures it out. So, but the guy is, I think she was 16 and he was. Yes. Yes. Right. What was he 20 or something?

Or 21. I want to say, yeah, like 21 at least. So that's why I'm like, I don't know how to feel about Jays. But from what I saw this season, he was okay. Okay. But I don't know. I forgot who that is. I don't know, wish them well.

You're going to print out a map. We really do. Good idea. Jimmy made one. He made like, was it like Jace Kirk you did? I'll make one here so I can point to you. We need to be talking about. Can you send me the high res?

Jimmy, I put it on a mixed tile. I'll put it right behind. Because I was, Jimmy doesn't watch. But he's been researching. I will give him that. But when I was like, okay, I'm like, usually I keep him links to footage or photos, whatever. But this time I was like, I need to label this all like in the drive so he knows.

So I was like, Charlie. Kirk one, the gay one. Did you do it? Yeah, I labeled it for him. That's so funny. That was good. So he couldn't know based on like how we bring them up.

So I'll have to put like Zachtoe. It is a lot. I watch it and I really just don't know any of them. Except for DeKilda. Why? Because Dakota's the worst. And he, I will stand by that. Dakota is the worst.

And Connor for being the best. Yes. Connor the best easily. Dakota. Yeah. And nobody wants to see you on the next season. So take note of that Mormon White. If they do come back, we can, you know, not.

We kind of need a fresh start, I fear. I think we're going to have to take the girls who want to move to L.A., spin-off. Put Aspen in there and then give us something. Because it's like, I don't know how we can deal. How is mom talking to recover from this? I don't know. But it's been a mess.

But anyway, all that to say, Michaela McGeara, I was mad because I really was thinking, like, maybe she can't get the bachelor's. But now she's confirmed who her new boyfriend is and everything. So, yeah, she's, um, do you remember that TikTok she did last year where she's like, I went back and I saw a friend from high school and it made me. realize that like I don't want to be the influence of life anymore. Oh no. That was a crazy accident that you went into. That was like newsies from the

1920s. That's friend was a guy? Was it man? We didn't know at the time but this was the guy she's seeing now. And also I because people have investigated. I did see the twins. Yes with the twins. Shout out to whoever was bored enough to go investigate Michaela Negara's storytimes. I don't know if we should shout those people out. That scares me. Like what are you doing? That is hilarious to me. No, I I think it's a little psychotic because he's like private. It's crazy, but it's hilarious.

To me, as a, as a password, yeah. And she's, I mean, she's the one that did the story time. Storytime when I dated Wood's Squid and he pissed me off, so I dated his other twins. You know, you know, the lore. So that is kind of funny to me. Anyway, she did confirm she's dating one of the twins, her old high school sweetheart. And she said that she's not going to divulge too much information. I feel like we got a lot.

I feel like we know all the tea. We know everything. We know everything about this person. She's like, I'm going to keep a pretty private, but you guys are right. I have such a soft spot for her. I'm like, girl, you share whatever you want to share. But you can say you're private. It's so wild to me.

But then I was like, damn, I really could have seen her as a bachelor. I would have, like, honestly, me being the Nick Vile telling ABC to catch Michaela McKearra. Well, you have it on record here if she gets casted. She's in L.A. this week for the Hannah Montana premiere. So I get ready with me. Everyone is kind of gag. It is tonight. They had a Montana premiere.

I did get an invite. I cannot go tonight. I did get an invite. It's big. I guess I can say it's already passed at the Gromans Theater. That's huge. But it's just like a reunion special. It's not even like a movie or TV or anything.

I know. She's performing three songs. She is releasing a new song. I believe it's Hannah Montana maybe. I believe. It's like a new Hannah Montana song. Like a single that she's releasing. So is she going to do a reboot?

What is this all? Just a retrospect, if you will. Just paying homage. She did, she re-recorded Best of Both Worlds, a la, like Taylor's version. We got Best of Both Worlds, Miley's version, I assume. And it's like just a little bit of a retrospective going back to the set and stuff.

And she's in full, Hannah, Hannah wardrobe. I kind of lived for it. I forgot how much I lived for Hannah Montana. They did. When I had texted you a while ago, they didn't invite us to the set, but it was like the same day. And I was to go see the set. And Miley wasn't going to be there or anything like that.

And I was like, I wanted to go because Tanna went and I wanted and she brought some friends at like Tanna, like one of her really close friends like that. I would have gone just like had brought you. But it was like the day of. And I was like, oh, I don't know if I can do it. But everyone is like very emotional about this. I'm so not in the Hannah Montana world. But like Michaela, I want to say Broughta chicken fry. I don't know.

Maybe it wasn't brown. But I feel like there's so many Tana. Like they're like emotional about this. Like I know Tana's coming back tonight to like go to the premiere. Like people are really like. crying over this like what it what's the big deal but like like tell me i don't know i'm not trying to be like what's the big deal i want to know why i think it's just like kind of paying respect to the character and the show because it did like raise so many people and it was such like a pivotal part of like so

many kids childhood but what was it about the show was there something i think it's like the concept of it being like the show about a girl trying to juggle like both things but also like the music because the music was like it was good kid music like it was the pop bangers for sure Sure, but also like the lyrics are very much like, who said you can't be anything you want to be. Like, this is a life. Like, be grateful for it. You have. Like, love your family.

Cherish these moments as you go through. What's the love your family song? What's that one? How's it go? I'm ready. Butterfly fly away. Spread your wings as you can't stay. Take those dreams and make them all come true.

Basically, it was like her having to, you know, go out. Yeah, from. Really, right. leave, you know, fly from the nest is kind of that, that vibe. Do you ever see the interview? She was young. She was like, maybe, I don't know, when it probably first started because she looked really young in it, where she's interviewing her dad?

You haven't seen it? And she's like, what's the best part about doing this show? And he's like, getting to do with my daughter. She's like, what's the worst part we're doing the show? He's like, getting to do it with my daughter. Is that something weird? It was very weird. She looks at the camera just like scared.

He's a little off, huh? Billy Ray, a little bit. I'm surprised she filmed with him for the special. She did? Yeah. because they kind of had a strange relationship a little bit, but he did come back to film a little something on the special. Are you happy about that?

As a fan? I never really care for Billy Ray. Like, I remember it was a big deal when the show was announced because, like, my mom was a Billy Ray Cyrus fan. So it kind of helped. I was like, Mom, look, like this new Disney show and he's in it. You know him? And she liked him.

So, like, we'd watch it together because of that. That's cool. So it kind of was like a generational gap, I guess. So that element is cool. But I never really cared about the mold. song or anything of that. What's the Milt song? I want my mullet back.

He always made references to that song and his mullet. He had one. He had one shot. You kept to go in. I just like when people have that one song and they're going to just like write it from her. Yeah. I will sing the song for the rest of my life.

Yeah. That's something I suppose. Okay. But the other, the boy isn't back. The brother Jackson. I think they're all back. I would assume the only one is like maybe Mitchell Musso because I think he has some

allegations or something. But the whole cast is supposed to be there tonight. We'll see. I think Billy Ray Cyrus has some allegations. Oh yeah, with his ex. Like Firestarter? Yes. So that's the whole thing.

I mean, people do pick and choose who we care about allegations from. But all right. This is the one Alex Cooper's hosting. Yeah. I saw the wand. I saw her recreating the wand thing. Oh, yeah. Hannah Montana.

Miley is Hannah. I like that people are into it. I like when people get really like, Michaela's flying from Boston for this. You know, I like when people are really passionate. Tanna too. She gets really emotional talking about it. And that's why I genuinely want to know and I didn't want to ask her.

Why? But like I just like, I know she gets emotional. She's like, you know, it's like the reason I wanted to like, you know, do YouTube and like leave Vegas and like start my own thing. Like she was really inspired by it. So I'm like, you know, watch the show. Maybe you need to get inspired. Maybe the kids would like, I mean, maybe they're too young actually.

But the music is good. Like if you played the little music videos, I feel like they would like it because it's like cute music. It's like, I don't know. It's wholesome. Is it? It's like a vibe. Yeah.

I still be listening to those songs when I need a little like pick me up just a vibe. Amen, they still hit. Okay. Maybe I'll watch it. Maybe I'm past it. But maybe when my kids are older, I'd be like, let's watch this show. It's pretty good. I haven't actually gone back to watch it in a long time, but I was seated for every damn episode.

But what are they going to show at Gromman's tonight? Just the interview? It's the premiere. So, yeah, they'll play the special. Miley goes back to like the original set. And then she's like, I don't know. It's like a retrospective, a look back. Are you guys going?

Is your work going? Yes, E.T. Denny Director will be there. I should actually let him know. to interview Michaela. I wrote influenza questions. The way your eyes started. I was like, wait, Jenny, emergency.

Michaela Negara is going to be there. We need, forget Miley. We need 20 questions. An exclusive 30 minute interview with Michaela. Like, say, girl, let Miley walk on by. Michaela is where it's at. I almost said yes just to see if they let me host the carpet. Sometimes when I say yes to a premiere, like actually would you want to host it?

Always, always happens. Like, wicked. And the moment was just an invite. And then they're like, you want it. So I almost did for that. but I really can't go. Otherwise I thought maybe because everyone is very gagged to go. I feel like it's going to be a big one tonight because like every influencer I know.

Yeah, everyone's been getting the suitcases with all the with all the PR in there. I haven't seen the suitcases. It's like an away suitcase with like Hannah Montana merch in there and like a script or something. Can you send us one so I gave it to Oscar or send to Oscar? Because I really wanted to do something with it because of you. It's like literally both days. I like could not. And I was like, oh man.

And I know you like, do you like love Hannah or not that much? You don't love it. I loved Hannah Montana. I don't have the visceral response that like Tanamojo and Michaela have like I loved it like if I wanted to go I could have asked E.T. Like I, you know, like...

You're not that invested then. I'm invested like I'm excited, but I'm not like crying and shaking over it. Like I think, I mean, it was such a huge part of like my teens. I'm trying to think what would really gag me. I mean, the last thing I was like told my work I needed to go to was like Olivia Rodriguez.

I feel like it's like the current stuff. I just, my hyper fixations now are just, they take over so much so, like, I can't afford to really go back. Oh, you're not. I love an nostalgia of at all. I do, but I, I'm very invested in the present pop girls. Like, my roster, my client roster right now, I'm very invested in. Whitney is the newest edition.

Chicago is playing on Monday nights. Usually Broadway's closed on Monday nights. I mean, there for literally less than 24 hours in New York, but I'm like, I might be able to make it to a Monday night showing. I think you got to go. And that would be the one where I'm like, if you don't get a damn video, message from my queen Whitney. Whitney, okay.

Who I've only known for one week, but I adore and would die for. No, I love her. I went back and I was like, can we get her on the pod? Can we get on the pot? She's busy bean. I think she's so stunning. Damn, that Bob she hadn't seen one was crazy, but we've come a long way, Whitney, and you look amazing now.

She does. That Bob was crazy. That Bob was crazy. The little flip was nuts. If I interview her, I'm going to get that wig. It's crazy, but I liked it. It was different. I need you to call.

Oh, that was everything. Her little flip. It didn't make her stand out, but... They should go in the center next season, because I'm so tired of Taylor being in the center. I do not think she's coming back. I really don't. Really? Yeah.

No, she had to be filming now. She's like in New York and... I don't know. She needs that book deal. Her movie's coming out. She commented on someone's TikTok or whatever, like Whitney needs her own spinoff or something to document her life in New York, and she left eye emojis. Oh, so that's probably happening.

Oh, she's getting her own show. I would watch it. I would watch it too. I don't think I would watch anyone else's own spin-off. I would watch hers. It's hard, though, because like you said, like you said earlier, is like we love the redemption arc, but it is hard, I think, right?

Because, okay, like, thinking about this last season, then we'll move on from Mormonized because we talk so much about it. But, like, last season, too, they only had dancing with stars for such a little part of it, and everything around it was just drama. So, like, I get what you mean with that, where it's, like, we do want to see it. I'm trying to the reality show where it's just, like, happy and, like, no drama. Like, because reality TV, I know what you're saying. like in general once that drama.

So I do like drama, but like the friend group itself, like the interdynamics of like supporting each other and everything. Like that's the kind of drama. When it gets too real and too toxic. Yeah. Like it just becomes draining. Like towards the end when she was still like going back to Dakota and when again her eyes like there's a switch that flips when Dakota when Dakota triggers her by going to like the two people that would really piss her off if he got with. Like there's such a switch. and it just becomes so dark that I'm like,

this is like really not enjoyable. Yeah. But I love when it's like we're fighting the dad talks. I like when Whitney's going off on Jen. Like I was waiting the whole season for Whitney to snap on Jen. Like I was so excited for that. Now that was reactive when Jen was like, see, you're the one screaming. It's like, you just pushed.

You just pushed. Anyways, I'm ready for those books. Get the memoirs. I'm sure they do. Memoirs do take a long time like publishing all stuff like that. Even when the manuscript's done, it's like another like six months. So I guess Macy, is that the first one? Yeah, Macy's is out.

I would read a book from just about anyone, to be honest. I do kind of want to get Macy. It sounds good. I feel like they all got tales to tell, though. Yeah, we're here for all of them. And the other big drama over the weekend was the Chaparone versus the 11-year-old in Brazil. I know, most like, did you see the Chaparron? I'm like, that's all that's been my entire Twitter.

Like, that's all that it's, it's, it's, this is, this also has a lot of ups. There's so much. There's always new development. with this too. Yeah, so many plot twice with this too. People also very divisive. This was a very big week slash weekend for just people really being ten toes down on one side or the other. Yeah, no common ground. No common ground. But I, yeah, I think there's more hate for Chapel Roan than there is for Taylor and Dakota combined. I think this hate train has never been, it's a freight train. It is trying to take her down, demolish every single way. It is wild, yeah. I guess in case you missed

somehow. Over the weekend, soccer player, God, I'm going to pronounce his name wrong. I'm so sorry, but Horino, Horino, accused Chaparone of mistreating his 11-year-old daughter, who was in Brazil to see Chapo perform at a music festival in Lollapalooza in Sao Paulo. Looked insane, by the way, I wish I wasn't invited to perform here. Addison Ray performing DiPubstein for a couple. I know. The lineup was Gaga-Toronda. You had Chapel, Livur, Rodrigo, Katzai, Addison Ray. mama, that is a place for legend. That was it. Yes.

Abrigado Brazil. That was fierce. And so wild because, yeah, it is also Jude Law's biological daughter as well, which is the craziest part. Yeah. So basically this 11-year-old is an epa baby. So, like, that's kind of like, that's kind of the gag because I don't think it would have been a big deal. Obviously, as a soccer player, he has a big, Horino has a big platform. but then when people realized it was also Jude Law's daughter too that adds like a whole element of like

biological so it doesn't mean they're he's estranged no he still he has kids with a lot of different wives I lived it up he has like seven kids yes but I think he's he talks well about all of them as if he still has a good relationship with them so as I think and I think from what I read it still is a co-parents with or you know pretty well from what I read um but yeah so he blasted chapel on Instagram story stories really out it all out said this morning my daughter woke up incredibly excited she even made a sign because she was so happy to see an artist she really admires or used to admire by coincidence my wife and daughter are staying at the same hotel as this artist during breakfast the artist walked past her table my daughter like any child recognized her got excited and just

wanted to make sure it was really her and the worst part is she didn't even approach her she simply walked past the table looked to confirm it was her smiled and went back to sit with her mom She didn't say anything, didn't ask for anything. What happened next was completely disproportionate. And he said a large security guard approached the table and threatened to report the mom and her daughter for being disrespectful. So that was the gag. Did he have Chappel Rhone or how do people know it was her? He said Chapel Rhone.

Oh, he did. I'd say that the artist. Yeah. He ended by addressing Chappel directly. And he said and told her without your fans, you would be nothing. to the fan she does not deserve your affection at Chaparone. Okay. Kind of wild, right?

Yeah. I mean, I, see, instantly I was like, oh, girl. You know, I am a Chapel Roe, Chaparone defender 10 toes down. Every time she's had a little, like, you know, scuffle with anyone who is just, like, invading her space, whatever, I've always been on her side because, yeah, she deserves to be setting boundaries. Also, quick sidebar. The one that we defended her.

against last time the guy in, I believe, Paris. Yes. He was, he's like a serial harasser because then he just sent it to Rosalia. And Rosalia couldn't get away from him. So I do stand with her on that when she like filmed him and whatever. Moses saw that too. That he was doing it to multiple people over there and they just don't leave them alone all that wrong.

Like literally following stalking them, harassing them. And people are just like, no, you got to like leave us alone. And they just don't. So I don't blame her for the last time. When I read this one, I was like, oh girl, I don't know what I can say about this. Like if it's an 11 year old, like if that actually happened. because also like I remember being so young and being like a stand of everyone and being so excited like you know whatever ashley tisd it with the mom drama whatever but what i met ashley tisd out like

14 years old and she was like very at least cordial and you know and nice like that made my whole life like i was so happy it was the best experience ever and i was thinking like if she was nasty to me oh my god i don't think i ever would have gotten over it Kendall jenner when i saw her at the northstrom she kind of gave me a look and i haven't forgotten about that and well it's the look and how old were you i passed her i was in high school she was also she's younger than me yeah so i was maybe a sophomore so maybe she was she was a junior so maybe she was a freshman um and she just gave me i think she thought i was like trying to hit on her yeah like i walked past her to go because she was in the shoe section the men's department is behind the women's shoe section so i

passed her but i think she thought i was like trying to i don't know talk to her or something yeah so she gave me like a weird look and i never forgot it so if i was i was was this 11 year old who was a stand like literally went made a sign there was photos of her like at the festival for other artists i'm like that would have like devastating me i think it's to this day my fear huge fear of rejection stems from me being i was eight years old when i was told by a celebrity's security to get the from out of here at a hotel and my dad we were eating breakfast at the hotel it was up in an uh Oakland when it was Oakland A's are they still there and and And we love the Cleveland.

I guess I can, he's not really like a celebrity. His name was Albert Bell, and he was having breakfast with Tony Pena. And like, I was like eight, and so my dad would send me

to go get these balls signed by baseball players. And like, baseball players are notorious for like, if you go up to them, like they're always going to sign for a kid. This was at the hotel during breakfast.

This is shopping. I know. When I heard the story, I was kind of like, but I just remember sobbing. I didn't know Albert Bell. Like I did not know Tony Pena.

I guess there's like the catcher or something for the Indians at times. It's like in the 90s. like 95. I didn't know, but I just remember being like sobbing because the security guard was like intimidating. Obviously we went up and they just like block you kind of like bluey where they're just like block. Get the fuck out of here. I remember being like eight like not even knowing I was like crying sobbing and I couldn't even like tell my dad what happened. He was like right there because we're having breakfast and stuff but like it was it was so traumatic and I really

and after it's weird because like I always had I hated rejection and then when I heard the story like it triggered that. I was like that should be a member. I was like, I was like wait that happened to me like that's so weird. I know that sounds like crazy but it did and I I was just like, that same thing happened to me. And it was at the hotel. And we would stay, I guess, I don't know if this is like to their defense, whatever. We would stay at hotels, like the fanciest hotels in town knowing that the baseball players would stay there.

So they're coming from Cleveland to Oakland, right? So my dad would put us at the fancy hotels because he knew the baseball players were there. So the chances of running into them at the elevators was like high. And same thing, like Cleveland, there's only one fancy one, the Ritz Hotel. So if you want to see basketball players, they're going to stay at the Ritz. So we'd always like do this little thing to meet them. So I guess to like this little girl, too, she was.

there to meet celebrities because she had one with like Louis Capaldi and stuff and I think the gag is like that's where the rich people stay and she her family's rich so right oh so you don't think it was to see the artist there I think she would like genuinely like just stayed at the same hotel because they're both of the same status yeah

exactly but she had a sign you said she made a sign for the concert to bring to the show oh I see so you're like oh right okay okay so right they just like a fancy hotel and they just happen to be there all right yeah but yeah like that's why like I can't imagine how traumatic that it like I think of course like yeah obviously boundaries and everything but I think

when it's a kid like an overly excited kid you kind of have to like throw all that out the window back to the bluey thing too it's like our one and a half year old like Elvis running up to bluey and then the security like putting his hands up to like so that she would run into his arm and she like felled out like yes boundaries right because they're not supposed to go up to bluey right away but there is like ways of being like hey like I don't know stay back without having to like you know put your arms out whatever. I think kids is like you handle them differently, the tactics of it all. Yeah. Yeah. And but

also to Albert Bell's credit, maybe he didn't know his security was like no, no, get that. You know what I mean? Like maybe he didn't. Maybe, maybe there's a thing that's say if there's a fan that comes up, just always say this. Who knows? But there could be a chance maybe they don't know how they're reacting.

Anyways, I don't have to think about this too. I was like, oh my God. And I was with you too. I was the original where I'm just like Chaball, we can't keep defending. But then mine's kind of switched to with the updates. Yeah, after that, she posted to her Instagram stories and she said, I didn't even see a woman in a child. No one came out to me. No one bothered me. I was just sitting at breakfast at my hotel. I did not ask my security guard to go up and talk to this mother and child. They did not come out to me. They weren't doing anything. It's unfair for security to just assume someone doesn't have good intentions when they

have no reason to believe because there's no action even taken. And she did apologize and say, I am so sorry to the mother and child that someone was assuming that you would do something. And if you felt uncomfortable, that makes me really sad. You did not deserve that. This was the long more she's hanging about with no makeup. Yes. People did not like this response. No, people did not like it at all.

She gets like the Whitney Love at Treatment a little bit in this way where people be like, wow, so smug even in this. Ugh, get up. Why are you laying down for this? Like people really just do want to like hate to hate. They're like, this is not enough, you know? Yeah, it's heat. Like it kind of made sense to me, like her statement.

Like I could see. the security just being like over the top but I will say they probably have the directive too it was like she's very strict about like the boundary so make sure again maybe it's not coming for her specifically but they were probably told that make sure you're on your A game like do not let anyone you know come out and come out and get too close or whatever so I could see that and also the security guard just taking it too far um so yeah there is a good chance she didn't know about it to be honest if I was her I would go straight up to that hotel, the front desk. I'd be like, give me the security tapes from this past Saturday.

Because I need to clear my damn name. Because there's just no, a lot of people who are not going to believe her that she didn't know. Or it wasn't her personal security that she didn't know. She didn't see the 11-year-old girl. I would literally be like, show me the security tape of me eating my breakfast and not seeing this 11-year-old girl walk by and tell that man to go yell at her. Because now people keep circulating this clip of her in an airport. on TikTok last month where someone's filming her in the airport she sees them film her and she

points them and then the security guard looks right at them and goes to them so people are using that to kind of show how she talks to her security oh do you think she you think she told him to tell him to stop filming I think she pointed him out yeah because she sees them she looks right at the camera and points to him and then the security guard kind of stands in front of her and kind of blocks the camera. I will say when I went to Misha Spice's Halloween party, her security guard was there and he was actually very nice. So I don't know, I don't doubt it was the same one.

Like this was her personal one at the Halloween party. And like Chapa wanted to go onto like the dance floor with like 200 people were there. Like you couldn't even freaking move but she was saying hi to someone. And a security guard was just like, excuse me, excuse me, and like guiding her through. And it was a whole bunch of drunk adults and crazy wigs and costumes. Yeah. And he was actually nice. So I will say that

at least. But I feel like the price of fame is hard. Like I think like people love to like clown or whatever. That is hard. Like you just want to go on the dance floor. And it's like obviously like you said he was being nice in that situation. But it is hard. Like you just can't go do things like really.

And that's why I would think because also Chappo is usually pretty good when the kids. So I wouldn't think that she would specifically point out this one 11 year old. I feel like probably security was acting on her behalf. But she did kind of say she didn't. It wasn't her personal security or someone who was with her. It was like the hotel security is what she thinks. But then the mom of the 11 year old girl posted a response to Chappel response.

I know, so many. And she said on her Instagram that I know that Chappell's respond is saying that it wasn't her security and that she didn't do it. So 100% the security guard was not a security guard of the hotel. That's what I can say. He looks after artists. I don't know if it was her personal security guard, but he was with her. So that's all I know.

Did she send him to do it? Again, I don't know. Look, I would like to hope not. But at the same time, I think you have a responsibility when you are a celebrity. to make sure that the people that work for you and act on your behalf are acting on your behalf. So what do you do that? If he didn't have her authority to do so, I don't know.

If he does, then obviously that's a big problem because then he's representing her in a way that she doesn't want to be represented, which I think is a fair point. That's very true. That happened one time at one of my meeting groups or someone being so awful to people, like literally shoving them.

They'd be like, hi, get out, get, move, move, get. Like, they'd be so awful. And like, yeah, you don't know what to do in that moment, but then, like, halfway through, we have to tell them, like, you have to stop. Like, you have to go away Because that's like insane.

Like the way, yeah, that's true. But Chapel is saying it was she, well, he wasn't even with her. It was like hotel security. Yeah. So she was saying it wasn't her personal security that it was hotel security. And then Kat, who was the, who was the mom who was there with the 11 year old girl, said that. She knows for sure it wasn't the hotel security. But someone who's like assigned to.

It could be for the event. Yeah. So was she denying, did the mom say that they were looking for chapel? Or did she say they were not? She said they were not. Basically what her telling of events is that they were walking to breakfast. She saw a girl with red hair, like, walk past her. And the girl went, Mom, I think that was chapel.

And then she, like, walked back to see if it was her, saw her, and then came back. And she was like, she knows very well because her dad is due law. Like, she knows very much about, like, boundaries. Like, we raised her specifically to, like, not invade anyone's personal space. Like, she even told the security guard, when the security guard come to yell at her, She was like, no, like her father is very well known. Like she deals with this stuff all the time. Like she knows better than to do anything as he was like going off on her.

But she did get a photo with those capaldi. Yeah, but I think it was like a consensual thing. That's all I'm saying. But don't you think like she goes, oh, they know boundaries, which I'm not saying it's like a boundary to ask someone for a photo. I ask people for photos. Like it only is a bad thing. But she seemed to be wanting photos with celebrities. Oh, she like literally.

It is funny because now all the stuff comes up. People were acting as if something terrible happened to her. It was like an immemoration or something. but it was like, look at her so excited at Sabrina Carpenter. And then on Christmas Day, she opened up the life of a showgirl album. So this 11-year-old just has taste and she loves the pop girls and I guess Lewis Capaldi as well. I guess it's fair to say she probably like, I guess she was no one said she ever asked for a picture. So I guess there was no bounty show other than all that we have heard is that she like crossed double time.

But like that's chapel. Chapel obviously didn't hear that. The mom was saying that's what they did. Yeah. She never asked for a photo. Yeah. So it wasn't even that. Look, I think too.

Like at the end of the day, it's like it's a child. I mean, the way chapel tells it. right is nothing even happened she had no idea what's happening so it's like that i believe her right the way the mom tells it is like yeah i mean i guess that's like that is sad and obviously been a victim of a celebrity's uh security guard yelling at me it is awful and as a kid you feel everything so much more so i guess we can confirm that there was a security guard that yelled we just don't know if it's chapels or the hotels or the events yeah and that's sad told them to go do it i i believe that she wouldn't do i don't think so either she has been good with kids like in the past at other

things. Also from the sound of it, she didn't see the girl and it makes sense because, you know, like a little kid, it's not something in her peripheries that she would understand, but also the way kids kids behave, like the kid would kind of like, you know, walk, being hesitant. So a security guy will notice this kid is not going to get food and back. They're not, they're just walking around spying on her, trying to get a glimpse to see if it's her or not. At the same time, Chappell could be with her back to her. She could not even know she's there. But the security guard will see. see like, oh, she's acting a little suspicious and then go and say something. Yeah, I believe that. So I think that's probably more it because. What I notice is that there's definitely like a hate campaign against Chapel. Oh, for sure. Since she left her last, you know, agents, wherever it was. O.T. Yeah.

There's definitely something going on, you know. God, people really just don't. Oh, God, there's a TikTok there. I feel. I think his name is Horace. I might be getting it wrong. I love his take some things. And he had said that too. He's like, I truly feel like.

like chapel was always meant to be like an indie artist. Like she wanted it for that way. Right kind of like he was mentioning like a Slater like a gay pop. I told my friend that. Yeah. Where she truly maybe did not want this life of being a pop girlie, like a Sabrina Carpenter and stuff like that. That she was always meant to be kind of like more like low key indie whatever.

Um, so I think that's where it is. Because people like she does not deserve this fame or whatever. It's like I think she just like doesn't handle it. Like a lot of people handle it well. And she just doesn't want that part of being an artist. And I think that's fair. I think it's just like she is so popular and so massive. So she's like thrust it into the same category as like a Sabrina or like a Kim Kardashian

who handles paparazzi in fame very well and stuff. I think she's just not comfortable with it. I think it's okay. Yeah, but I agree with you. People do just love to hate. Like when she did that video, like, wow, smug, arrogant. Look at her lying down. Like, you know, just like smiling, smirking.

Like it's just like she can not do anything right. Like even the paparazzi pairs that harass everybody else and everybody else was like, leave me alone. That's true. Literally the week before dualie. people like you went off on the same people and like nothing went off and she's just like they're not showing the person you know what I mean they're just showing her like if they showed the other person and you see that it's not a fan and it's just a solicitor trying to harass

her yeah you know but nobody showed the full picture of what happened so it was no there's a hate campaign but again I think chapel should take a page from Kate Bush's book because that's what happened to Kate Bush when she was famous and then very early on she was like I'm now I'm opening my own record label. I'm making my own music on my terms. I'm touring when I want to tour the way I want to tour. And she just completely disengaged from the world. Yeah.

And she was unavailable to anyone unless she wanted to be. And that was it. She was focused on making music and she made lots of music. More mysterious. You can choose your own path, like the way you want to be famous. People won't let her. I feel like it's hard. I don't know.

It's so hard. I don't know. I'm not there. I feel for her. I also feel for that kid. Obviously, I haven't that trauma. Like, it really did traumatize me. And I feel like I was just like never again approaching anybody.

I will never ask anyone to hang out. I'll never text first. I'll never will. Like, I really do think it stems from that incident. Someone I didn't even care about. But I wish that we saw the space that it happened. You know, like, because if Chappell would hear the security guard talking to this girl. And apparently, from what the parent said, the girl was crying.

Oh. I'm sure Chappel would have been like, what's going on or go to the girl. It's okay. Because we've seen a lot of celebrities, like stop the security, going to the person, having a conversation with them, and basically the escalating the situation. So that's what's odd to me. It's like, how big was the room? How far was she? Where was the security?

I know. We have that security team. We need to see more. Yeah. That's a good. Yeah. Because I saw one of LeBron, he was like walking past. I don't know.

Just going through. And there's like kids, whatever. There was a kid yelling. LeBron, LeBron sign this, whatever. And the dad's like, say, please. And then LeBron stops and comes back. Everybody with kids. I don't think there's one person that's like.

you to kids like if a kid's crying they're like you know what i mean like i don't think anybody tricksy mottell actually tweeted that she wouldn't stop for kids after this incident well she did it back in 2020 and then she retweeted it and was like still true that's so funny you know what everyone has their back at least we know and we know that i always know that like you know i i've got trixie whatever and it's like you just know she's like kids so like why would you yeah i don't know that's so funny i also don't believe it i also feel like if a kid came up to Trixie, I feel like she might, although the hotel

is no kids allowed at the Trixie Hotel, which makes sense it is in Palms for you, but it's funny. Yeah, she just can't catch a break, but I feel sad for the kid. I kind of wish she like, especially because it's a kid of famous parents, like, I was kind of like, why didn't you, you should reach out of Jude Law, be like, can I, you know, I didn't know that was happening, can I do

something to, you know, make her feel a little bit better, you know, invite her to another show or something. That's kind of like the Taylor Swift School of PR is. I feel like that's what she would do she would just like if she knew something like that happened she would somehow fly out that little kid to wherever she's at do a little photo post it on her instagram story and like look see i didn't know it was happening i made it up yeah you should we always did that all the time in um venues like if there was somebody who like in the um like the disabled thing if there was like a blockage or whatever

and they're like you know i was like disabled like we always tried to make sure they came to like another show if they couldn't see or something like that like you know it's it's kind of have to it's easy to do too when you have like people to help you You just can facilitate like a meet and greet early on those blurry meet and greet photos. I like this one person, I think I can say it now. I feel like enough times best and he's been so sweet. There was one photo that was just, oh my God, that did.

It was so, and I couldn't even talk about it because I was like so embarrassed and like he was so sweet. He ended up coming to like two more shows, but it was blurry. It was early on in the tour and we're like, luckily Naz is the photographer now for always meet greet photos, right? And meet greet photos, you know, you pay money, you want a nice photo. They were a little diabolical at the beginning, but one was so blurry. and so like not visible that they a-eyed my face.

I forgot about that. Did I show you it? You showed it to me. Yeah, it was. I need to find this photo. It was, I mean, my teeth are separated. Like, it was so scary. It looked like a different person.

Oh my God, I was so scared. I was, I was livid. I was like, what? This is after like the second, this is trying to get a new person in there. This was like the second week and I was just like, what the f*** is this? So what is this?

And it's on the public website where everyone that mean greets can see. So I'm just like, this is so embarrassing. I got Daniel Perez who was like, not only one fan and friend. He's also really like, he should be manager because he's on it and NAS too. But he's like, what is? It was so scary. Then the kid was so sweet.

He came solo and he was like so sweet. And he's like, it's fine. Like it's okay. So anyway, we obviously like flew him to another meet and greet because I was like, that's so insane. But like at the very least, I'm like, come see a show. And like forever he can always have meet and greets because I'm like that was so diabolical.

And it's just embarrassing. It's embarrassing. And even if it's not your fault, like obviously that is not my fault. That was a whole other thing. But, you know, you are the face. Yeah, and you just got to... That's kind of how it is. Like, unfortunately, like, that's a reflection on you.

That's kind of what, like, her mom was saying, too. Like, if they, honestly, it's a representation of you, so, what are you going to do, you know? Maybe she will. Maybe she'll bring into her up a show. I hope so. I think it's a little weird of the dad, the initial one, because at the end of the day, like, it does suck. I think I got blown out of proportion. I think it's like, what did...

I'm trying to think of that it would happen. I'm trying to put it in my perspective, like, with our kids. If it happened when I blast it. He is a celebrity. And when celebrities are in the same space, there's a certain adequate. Like, to him, what she did is very, very hurtful. And because he's at the same level as her. But are you saying he's in the right to blast her?

He shouldn't have blasted it. He should have been like those things happen. I understand his emotions because it hurts even more when he feels like we're, we're colleagues, we're celebrities, we're in the same space. This is my kid. You could have a kid that would be my fan. Like, we don't do this to each other. Like to him it was a bigger slap in the face than if it was a random person on the street that was rude.

But I feel like in the past couple months, we were like slighted by an influencer. And it's like my initial instinct was like it wouldn't be to like talk about it. In fact, it's the opposite because we're like mutuals of like influencers. It's like you just don't talk about it. Like I was like bummed and like what happened was like annoying and like bad energy. But it's like my first thing wouldn't be like, let me blast this because it was embarrassing and it was awful. But I was like, I don't need a blast it. flew across the country to go,

not even, I think they, I forget where they're from, but they flew to Brazil just for Lollapalooza. Oh, they don't live in Brazil. That was her Christmas present, was going to see Chapel at Lollapalooza, like the buildup. Oh, well, I didn't know that. Yeah, it was like her, she loves Chapel, that's what I'm saying.

She loves, like, these girls. Like, she is a stand. I thought it was like they just happened to be in this hotel and walk past. They were staying at the hotel for the show. But, yeah, it was her Christmas present, was getting tickets to Lala Paluza. Like, that they surprised her with it.

I didn't know this. I didn't know this. This wasn't, her mom was saying it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. To me, it's like,

I don't know. I don't know. I'm kind of torn on it. Like you take your kids to Disneyland and they go to see Mickey Mouse and Mickey Mouse security. Bluey. Knocks your kid and make them cry. Yeah,

I would blast Disney and Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Don't dare. We had to be in good terms with them. Yeah. Maybe the Bluey Museum. Maybe the Bluey Museum. I guess.

I guess we did. But it just makes it seem so much more serious. Maybe, yeah, maybe I'm in the wrong on this. I just think it's like so much more like it seems so. Like you said, everyone was doing like in memoriam. Like just like, oh my gosh.

It was a lot. Yeah. I think I can't even fault some either because I think, again, if it was for me being slided, I would probably, you know, wait a couple weeks and say it on here. But this is what we do. I know. I guess it's like what we do. I think because it's like his daughter who's just like loves her so much.

That's true. If the security thing did happen, then maybe yes, because that is traumatizing. Okay, yeah, you're right. All right. I get. Yeah. I'm with you on that. Yeah.

All right. He did the right thing. What about Jude Law? Why isn't he saying anything? He has more reach. If he said something that might be out there, we need to know. That's true, yeah. What is his thoughts on this open?

Where is Jude Law? He, like, cheated and then went bald and, like, never heard from again. He did a movie kind of recently. Like, last year. I forget. We interviewed him for something. I forget what. He did some kind of...

He gives me Dakota Mortensen vibes where he's just, like, mid, cheats a lot, lost all the hair, got a shard transplant. Like, it's just, like, is giving nothing to me. I don't know why I'm sh- But I just don't like it. Oh, he was a cheater. That's why I was like, what am I? At least not abusive, right?

Right. I don't know. At least, I don't know either. Probably not, yes. I just know he is awful to Sienna Miller and cheated with the nanny. Oh. He sounds like a pissy shit to me, but maybe he's an okay damn. Maybe he's better.

Maybe he's changing grow, which we're all about changing growth. Just like my memoir. I got to get your word. You can change and you can grow. What would be the name of Taylor Frankie Paul's memoir? It's a good question. I don't know, but that meme of it. her holding the stool needs to stop.

Have you seen this? And all the TikTok comments? Oh my God. Who started this? Like, why are people so quick? Also, why do I laugh? Sometimes the internet is crazy. Even with the chapel,

Rhone, there's so many memes of her, like, chapel when the kid comes up. And it's just like people flinging kids in the air. And everyone's anti-AI, but then the same people love to make these little AI memes. I'm not right. Y'all got to pick one. Y'all canceling Zarr Larson because she likes watching the AI fruit,

but then you guys are running and making AI memes of chapel yelling at a kid. So like, which one is it? Like, poor. Zah Larson. Zara Larson learning in real time. You can't really have a personality when you're a main pop girl.

It's very sad. You can't. You cannot. Yeah. They were on her. She just said she laughed a little at the at the AI fruit drama and everyone was so mad at her. That's crazy because AI fruit drama is all I live for.

It gives me peace. I'm sorry. People are so, you're right. Zara, I feel you. Damn. She said she lost a brand deal because of her. Do we cut that money cut it from the last? episode with the um oh yeah she made a joke uh a joke about a fan of hers getting an abortion and then

after that joke went viral she lost a three million dollar brand deal three million is crazy think she regrets it it doesn't sound like she does it's kind of like a girl who stands in business i think you can say i think when you lose a three million dollar deal i think you might have to because it's like yeah whatever people think it's funny not funny whatever there was the debate on that but like you lost three million dollars though because of just something you wanted to say i don't know it's like it's not like freedom of speech where something like so powerful I guess in her mind she thought maybe like I'm doing a pro-trace dance but maybe I don't know whatever but I think you have to regret losing three million dollars I regret like losing three hundred dollars

like I'm three million's crazy like that's that's that's crazy but I guess one time I'm past you're just like I don't regret it because you can't do anything about it anyways and he and also like someone like her you also like know influencers is harder right because you never know like when it'll kind of dry up but she's been performing for like 10 years and at this point she's only getting bigger and bigger. So I feel like with her, she at least knows. There's always something around the corner. Not always.

I feel like there's some pop divas who definitely have Stacey O'Rico. She was that girl. She was like a Christian singer, then a pop star. You know what I mean? And then they, sometimes. Sometimes, yeah. I think with her, it's pretty safe for a couple years.

Well, years are, I stand. I mean, not that I'm not, but I'm just saying. Me and Harry Daniels holding it down for the slits. I love her. I love her. I saw that one where she's, like, holding her dancers. And then they lift her up and she kicked and someone else was holding the microphone to her.

Doja Cat just went viral for doing the midnight sun riff and I think you should do it. What is it? How's it? You do it first. Okay. A never-ending midnight sun. A never-ending midnight sun. Okay.

What's it mean? Midnight sun. Okay, love it. Maybe. I'll get on it. I'm busy tonight, but I might get on that. Like right now, I was trying to key up. Oh.

It's a midnight sun. It's a midnight sun. Wow. She's really good Hey, Demi Thank you, thank you You know Sunny with a chance was good

That should come back Right Yeah, even the theme song I love too The Disney music at that era It was so inspirational to me actually So far so great, get ready Is that sunny with the chance? Having a dream is just the beginning

So far so great Is that Sunny with a Jan scene song? Yeah Isn't the one like hey sunny Hey Sunny That's hey Jesse That's the Debbie Ryan one She's queen too

I never watch a show but I just like her Sometimes I like people just for their memes You know what I mean? She's so funny She's such a mean queen Right? Sometimes the memes are just like what make people Well

My what do you meme pack That is so true I guess I don't see it Like I wish I could see my memes the way some people see them like you. I just, I can't. I wish I had the iconicness, and I can't. I would like to think that I'm not up there yet.

I'm not on that level. One day, it is funny how people just like find those old videos and just, I don't know, like the ones like laying on the kitchen floor. I reached out to that address that I used to live in, and no one responded. I really wanted to do videos there, but we're going to just like rebuild it. We're going to like create a set for one of these videos. I don't know it's going to be as like cool though,

but if you live at this place, we have a feeling like someone's like, it's vacant or something. I was like, why don't you just call the building? I'm like, I don't think you just call them and be like, I think you can't exactly. Yeah. And ask what? Does someone live there?

Yeah. Just inquire. Like, is this available? Maybe it's empty right now and it's between, you know. I think I'll just let me go in there. Yeah, they probably are like. Money is you pay. Really?

You think if I just called it to the building, can I rent it for a day? They're like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. They do that. They scout, they have scouts for permits for filings. I hate it.

See my rejection? Back to Albert Bell security guard. If they are, then you give it. to Andrew the director and he does all the work to get the permit to film to pay and all that stuff. I'll head him up after this. I'd like to. What if it's not the same anymore? You know, they always redo.

I might have renovated a bit, but I still think that it's like the atmosphere of the video should be like an old-fashioned YouTube video. So even if you do green screen and put yourself in that space, but kind of like low-res video. Moses' vision for this music video, my vision are so different. And I love it. I love your ideas. I just think that. Oh, you should do a little contest. Like, you do your version of the video and then you do yours and see which one does

better. That's interesting. No, like, not saying they're bad ideas. It's always just so far for my vision. I always just like. Because you always want fancy, girly, shiny. But here there's like a story. Like it's a 20 years of YouTube story.

So it's like. He wants it to be a thumbnail. Yeah. Yeah. By the thumbnails, she moves in them. That's why it's a green screen. But as the titles changes, the thing. I see the vision.

Right? It's like the evolution. I do see that vision. Yup. I don't hate it. It's just so far from what I'm doing. No, I get that. Of course.

But I'm saying. I like it. I like it. But not for me. Maybe one time. One time I had Andrew Rountain, who's also very creative. One time I had him pick the vision. I was like, because I'm very specific.

I do 5,000 references. And there's one time. And it was a music video. It's my only love song I did, like a love song. Usually when I like breakup songs, whatever, it was like a love song. And I remember I hated it. It was like, we're like slaughtering a pig like hanging and there's like eating zombie brains. And I was like, nope, nope, never again.

And he's a gay. And I thought, oh, I can trust a gay to know what's, but nope, nope, don't trust them all with this. And he's like so, he is so talented. He made so many great films. Like he is so talented. That was diabolical and crazy. My one love song is like me like telling a pal. I was like never again never it was so weird and I it was a time frame I hated it

was supposed to be like the notebook which I hate the notebook it was very it was very awful so I'm very particular but not to say you're right maybe I should be more open-minded I you know try other people's visions you do your vision I'm just saying that's the first thing that came to no I liked it I like that you thought I love when you have like a passion for something I'm doing too I had thoughts on yours too on your tuna pasta sponsor not a bad way I was like you should put me in the first two seconds because I try it at the end Yeah, but it's a 10-minute TikTok.

Yeah, I was going to, but it was just so long. I respect it, but I do think I should have been a little teaser. Like, oh, I was giving you so many reactions, and I was, anyways, I was the thumbnail, but I think maybe the first couple seconds, it could have been you and me. I agree. It's okay. No, it's fine. It did well.

You didn't need it. You didn't need it. Like, what 10-minute video on TikTok? It's like. Yeah, you just put it the first two seconds. But the, you know, it did well. It didn't need me. Maybe it would have been worse.

It did. You were in it. Thanks. Appreciate it. Did you see that jip-chip is back in the news? For her body tea? For making a joke about her mom's murder. We listen and we don't judge.

Yes. She did 20. What's her name, Natalie Reynolds? She did like 20 TikToks with her. I mean, as the internet said, I don't think this trend is for you, babe. Like, I don't know if we're, I think we're all judging. I think we're all judging now. The judge was judging.

The judge was judging. You went to prison. Also, did she just admit it? Like, me, like, I thought, I thought it was Nick. I thought you were like, I didn't really want him to do it. Like, what just happened? Did we do an admission of guilty here on TikTok? This was wild.

This was the wrong people to do this challenge. You know why we've never done the listening and don't judge challenge? Because I should be judged for a lot of things. Moses and I thought about it one time where I thought about doing it. And I just remember being like, no, you should definitely be judging me for what I'm about to say. Everybody that does that challenge. We listen and we don't judge. It would always be like,

I cheated on you, gave you an STD, and you took me back. Like, it's just like, no, I'm judging you. Like, what do you mean? You didn't tell her. You were, you had someone else. And then you'd like, anyways. Yes. These two.

Did you know the other TikToker she did it with? No. Natalie, is that a name? Yeah. You never seen her. So you don't know what she did to be in the same because she's problematic. Oh, no. She says it in the list of them we don't judge.

Did you watch the TikTok? I only saw the gypsy part. Yeah. So before her, Natalie goes. And her whole thing was, and she says it. She was, I once paid, I don't know if she was an unhoused woman or just a woman on the street, paid her $20 to jump into a lake naked or just into a lake. And she couldn't swim.

And she couldn't swim. And she couldn't swim. And she was, like, left and laughed and laughed and like filmed her doing it. Yeah. Was she unhoused? Was she naked? I did make those two up. Not naked, unhoused.

Unhoused woman. She paid $20 to go. You never saw that? No. Oh, it was. It was bad. Actually, the worst thing. Like she literally walked away laughing and let her like.

Yeah. which it's like bad enough right when people give unhoused people money and you're filming it for content it gives a little ick but the fact that you're doing like yeah that sort of give them money but don't you humiliate them for it that's what I'm saying it's another level but people don't like when they film giving them money they think it's kind of weird because it's like don't use them for content

just because you're giving them money but on the humiliation level too like you're for that like you're weird like I'm judging like we all judged you like I thought we moved past that we're still judging you so when they did this challenge together I'm like I don't know if this is meant for you girlies at all And I would say actually what Natalie did is maybe a little worse because at least Gypsy had a reaction. Talk about reaction abuse. I mean, she had a little reactive.

Okay, we all agree she was a victim of her mom. This lady just a influencer making content, humiliating somebody who's not doing well in life. Like, insane. I am like. I know. I'm, I'm gags. What do you mean? That was crazy.

And then they're like being filmed by like paparazzi from far away. Like gypsy looks good. I will give it to her. her body, her veneers, her wig. She is, she got that money. She got that money coming in. I don't like that girl. I don't like her, that Natalie.

I guess it's another thing again to move past something and like whatever. Maybe you made a lapse in judgment like Logan Paul or something of me multiple times. But like, then you like double down on it. I don't know. Don't like it. I'm sorry.

My mind can't even. What is going on? Is she Mormon? Like, what is it? Like, I was going to say, like it is going to be something that would be on more on Monsau or something. What do you mean? I know.

I don't know why this clap happened. I was going to say, Chip Chip, what are we, I don't think she's the kind of goal we should be collaborating with right now. I think Gypsy is rogue now. I don't think she has like a publicist or anything because she never show anymore. Because she had sent me a DM.

And I think she was sending it like generic. Like why she was like pitching herself. Like why she'd be a good guest on the podcast? I think she probably sent out to multiple people. Um, but I think she's trying to make like her own come back, I suppose. After the artistry. Remember she, didn't she go off to be an artist for the book?

Yes. And then she kind of disappointed. And, you know, like, again, a body transformation does wonder, as you always say this, when someone comes back and, like, lost a little weight, like,

people do seem to really love that. You know, they, like, love it. But I think clapping with this girl, we're like, let's... It's a setback. It's definitely a setback. Maybe if she was, like,

clapping with, like, Whitney Leavitt or something. You know, like, levels up. That's not what you would do it. But, I know. I don't know. I'm sure Jen Affleck would do it. Oh, that's a good one.

Yes. Yes. That one's kind of... A little controversy, but like at the end of the day it's just like a drama. Right. Crazy. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Humilating another human being. That's, I can't, my brain game. No, it's crazy. I know. And they did so many TikToks. They were doing like, I know. I just went to go look and oh my God, literally they had a whole content day.

It always tickles me when influencers do content days together where it's like, okay, we're going to film for five hours and we're going to do like eight TikTok so bring 10 outfits. Yes. It is kind of wild. I mean, I mean, time efficient. of photos, but. No, it's smart. I don't dog it.

It's such a, it's such an interesting. I can't even imagine being an influencer like now. It is such a different world. It's such a business to, I guess you just gotta get the most of it. You're gonna be, maybe she doesn't live in LA, so she's in LA, so she's like, can she travel outside the state? I thought she was on like, what's I called parole? Is she off parole now?

Is she on parole? It's been so long since we cover Gypsy. I guess, yeah, I guess I don't know how long parole's last. Oh, June 24th, 2025, it ended. Oh, okay. That sounds right. Yeah. So she's free woman.

Yeah. We, Jip, listen, we got it, especially we just had the, the Gypsy Rose files just come out, what, a couple months ago. Oh, right. And those were all, like, the sounds and stuff. So I think we got a distance. We got a distance ourselves from that. Yes, you're right. They use the sounds.

Like a pair, right? Yeah. Too soon. Too soon. It's never going to be enough time. No. Well, let's never use those sounds from those tapes. Like those took up

And I love reclaiming the meme We love reclaiming the memes here We love it You know But this is I think this is one where it's like You work your mom and set your friend up also to do that So now he's in life in prison But you're out and you're making jokes

Yeah So I think we gotta we gotta ditch that one If it was Froyo If it was like you know The sugar free Froyo That's one thing If it's poot Yes

Like so many other ones I'm getting a divorce Like there's so many like memes out there That are lighthearted enough Like the one where she was like what did she say to her that one guy where, oh, the D is amazing or whatever. Like six of that.

Six of those means. You know what I mean? This one, I don't know. I don't know. Bad. All of this was bad, but I guess when you're already at the bottom, there's nowhere else to go because you're already there. Especially that Natalie. Like, that's the thing. It's like, oh, my God. Like, do we have to just keep being bottom

of the barrel? It's like, I don't know her fan base. I don't know her lore, like, outside of that. I don't know if she's growing and changing, but obviously not too much. I think that's the thing. It's like then when you can, yeah, make light of a serious thing. Kind of like the Taylor Franky Paul and let's go back to it, but like when people discovered the TikTok, she made like two days after when she did the chair throwing incident

and she's like, note to self, don't throw things. You might end up going, you might see bright flashing lights outside your house. Like, girl, it's been a week. Like that part, it's just people don't like because it's very serious. And it's not as lighthearted as people think. Are her TikTokers, okay. Like, I am really starting to worry for TikTokers. Me too.

I worry about it because I think about like my kids. I'm like, oh my God, like, what's the level of influence are going to be then? Are they just going to be, I hope they're not. I hope robots take over. Is that okay to say? That's not AI. I don't know. Like the little robot came from at Zendaya show.

I'm just like, you're a robot. So start acting like a kid. I was like, you beg a flesh. I was like, what the hell is this show? But I don't mind that idea. She looked real, that girl on that show. Yeah, it's, I don't think, yeah, I think they're all diapolical. I don't know.

Is there any good TikTokers out there? Like doing good. I mean, there's obviously people who are entertaining. Oh my God. There has to be. And I can't think of one right this moment. But I know there are. We lost.

Who was it was a beauty to the streets? Yes. Oh, we never talked about her. She used to go out. That was like last month, right? It was maybe a few months ago or like, yeah, she, oh, I loved hers. She would, all her content was her literally handing out, like, food and cans of pops to, like, people in like, you know, in really bad areas like LA

like people that are on house or like on drugs and they would line up and she'd give them like hygiene packets. It was like love that content. I wish more and she was like so good. She was like doing all the time and like we need people like that and like where are those more of those influencers?

T. Not around. Yeah. I mean we can barely get an angel tree out of the girls around Christmas time. That is true. That is true. The angel tree drama. Is that Michaela who didn't do an angel tree? And Jacqueline Hill. I mean, okay. And it's like, I didn't do angel tree,

but I did Trisha Food for you does account? Do you know what I mean? Like, not to defend them, but it's like, maybe they donate another way. We love an angel tree. We do. I just didn't know how you. I was like, well, I was doing Trisha food for you at the time.

So I was like, okay. And you know what? Some people followed up. I love that people followed up. I sent you a picture of the one that got their son in a bed who was like, because you never know. Because you never know, sometimes you have money. People are like maybe they're just scamming you or whatever.

But there was one who need, her son needed a bed. And then she'd just to follow up. like yours is bad I said thank you for the follow-up because I never get those so and again it's like picking and choosing okay Michaela and Jacqueline didn't do it but did we go for beck of Bloom did she do maybe she did do it I don't know but you know there's so many well-to-do influencers that were like did they all do angel trees I don't think you have to hold that so much against I like it but I think with Michaela I'm not to bring her up again but she did tell everyone she was going to do all these angel trees and then she said like

you guys I would why do I have to make a video on doing an angel'sry. If I don't want it, I don't need to, but you just told us you were going to do it. And you also just did your $100,000 haul like two weeks ago. Yeah. Sorry, Michaela, but that is kind of the tea there. Michaela's our favorite hypocrite. She is queen of double standard and I'm okay with it until she does something crazy, okay? And then there's, there's, too, stool's flying.

And so she's collaborating with, what's her name? Gypsy? Or the other one. Oh, yeah, Natalie's worst. I don't know anyone who would except for gypsy. Poor gypsy honestly, in that case. I'm kind of like, oh, girl. Even in the lesson, don't judge when she's listening to her, she's listening to her,

She's like, I don't know if Gypsy knew. I think in that moment she's like, what the fuck? I didn't know that was happening. Yeah, she gave a little side eye. And then I was like, we don't judge. I was like, I don't know. And if Gypsy Rose is judging your poor decisions, I think that is where we need to get off the line.

People are, who's the other one that makes, was it named Livy, the one that makes the content of how to stay skinny and not eat? There was something with her too. She's like, I think her name's Libby Dunn or something. Okay, I was going to say, is it Livy Dunn? I think so. Okay. And she just tells people how to like not eat.

And it's just like, what is wrong with these people? Like, how are they allowed on here? Like, that's like literally such dangerous, harmful behavior. Whereas, like, this is what I do when I feel hungry and how I don't eat and how I stay skinny. It's like so sacked up. And like, I don't know. She shames so many people's bodies. It's like, is anyone body shaming her?

You know what I mean? It's just like, that doesn't look good either. Like, I don't know. I just feel like someone needs to tell her and the people watching all this bad information. That also doesn't look good. Like, you starving yourself. is not a cute look. It doesn't look good.

And I just hate that misinformation. I hate that people look up to her for that. Weird. Don't do it. You need to eat three meals a day. She was sponsored by Raising Cains. Who? Let me not.

No. Because I know the name, but I haven't seen any of her stuff. What is it? What is the, I want to see what that is. What is the Raising Cain sponsorship? Don't be a chicken take a dip. It's her eating Raising Cains in a pool. What is?

What is... That to me is... Actually, so... I hate it. I hate it. Okay, well... What the fuck? This girl makes her living

telling people and not eat and stay skinny. Girl. Oh, gosh, she had a whole deal. Oh, she had a cardboard cut out at raising kings. Across the nation. She asks people to take photos

with her cardboard cut out, all the canes. No. Yes. No. No. No. No. She's literally telling people not to eat.

That's right. her whole brand and she gets a brand-dly eating. I hate it. I do hate this. I hate it. I hate that so much. It actually might be the most diabolical thing we talked about all topics. That's crazy. Is this recent? Last year, last summer. Oh my God. Because she got came up again about talking about

basically promoting EDs and I'm like, I hate this. What is going on in the world? Oh, she just posted, sorry, I was mean to you. I was just hungry. Oh, she has a lot of food sponsorships. For some of the thing. That's crazy. What? Oh my God.

Okay. Oh, and she's on Baywatch. Oh, my God. What? Oh, is that it? Is that what I heard? That's maybe where I heard that her name again. And I was like, what?

I can't. I'm retiring. I'm officially going in retirement. That's so insane. What the hell is going on, you guys? What? Be serious challenge. You guys were failing.

We're failing to be serious challenge. You know everyone is on that, though. You know that Luke Eisener too that I always talk about from Tall Girl. Who dates at creepy. He's on there, too. He's a new one. Kirby is like, my boyfriend's a new lifeguard on this.

I'm like, oh my God, everyone's a light guard on there. Everyone's a damn lifeguard. Everyone's a damn lifeguard. Everyone's a damn lifeguard, except for us. Not even a drowning victim in the damn show.

Well, maybe. They're still filming. You would be good, actually, if you were drowning and Noah Beck comes and saves you. That's kind of everything. I think that was like a Baywatch plot line. Like a hot guy saved, like an intellectual guy.

An intellectual guy. All with classes. An intellectual guy is crazy. You are a hot guy. You're a hot guy. You're an intellectual. I thought you're going to say a gay guy. I don't think they did that in the 90s.

I don't think they were putting gay men on TV. Where did that start? We're kind of progressive, I feel. I feel like back of the day, they're like no gays. Yeah, T. I mean, maybe Will and Gray's, that's like the first one I really remember. Oh, yeah. And then they had to make them like super gay.

Yeah. Actually, no, Will was not so gay. I never watched it. Oh, yeah, yeah. He was more like. Jack was the more flamblient one. Yeah. Now he has a dialogue podcast with Two Street, guys.

You really failed this, Jack? I do, I know, I've never seen the show about the clips I see and I do like Jack and, what's her name? Karen. Yeah. Yeah. Her name was Karen. Awful name. Didn't age well.

Wow. I'm, that's, wow. That's the real upwar we need. Living Kane being sponsored by Living Dunn. Being sponsored by Raisin Cains. That is crazy. That's crazy. I just had Racing Cains yesterday, too.

What the hell? I know, me too. I got the Lepicolomein. All right. Well, I, I don't even know where to go. Pre-order Too much, yeah. Pre-ordered my memoir.

Crying on the kitchen floor, you guys. There's... I thought you were, like, holding your head in shame down there. I was, like, going like this. I was like, oh, okay. I was like, wow. No association. No association.

You have a good chapter in there. You have a couple chapters. I was going to say just one. Actually, that was what I know from the publisher. I was like, you can maybe, like, put more into, like, the happy ending. I was like, yeah, you're probably right. Happy I made it into the book. You made it into the book.

It's good. A lot of people made into the book. The book is here. All right. All this is for entertainment purposes only, you guys. Unless your dad talk or... Dakota. I don't know.

Who cares? I mean, I care. I care about the children. Maybe we should care more. We love you guys. Thanks for being here on a Tuesday. I love Tuesday. Is there just the best?

Taco Tuesdays. That's what we do in this house. You don't eat tacos. Well, I do now. I may, I got to give me that langua. You know, I eat it all day long. Give me that beef tongue. Now I eat tacos.

I love tacos. I love tacos. All right. That's it. Yeah, join us on Patreon. We've got some juicy stuff. Okay. Moses is promising it.

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