Just Trish - Trisha Speaks Out + James Charles Needs To Be Stopped...

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

Trisha is speaking out to protect the dolls at all costs! Plus, Jake Webber's girls--Tarayummy and Kenzie Luby, team up to put the feud rumors to rest. And a new interview puts James Charles on blast with new evidence supporting the allegations that he had a relationship with Kayla Malec's toxic ex, Evan Johnson.  💖🪩Thank you to Kikoff for sponsoring today's episode!💖🪩 Building credit can happen faster than you expect with Kikoff. Don’t wait. Get your first month for just a dollar at ⁠https://GetKikoff.com/trish 💖🪩JUST TRISH MERCH!💖🪩 ⁠⁠https://justtrish.com⁠⁠ Sponsor Just Trish: ⁠⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/just-trish-podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So you like already lied basically because we saw on the Snapchat that he was obviously what she was. Yeah. Yeah. So. That sucks. That really sucks. It sucks because if.

It's like your friend and you like see the evidence. You're like, okay, don't gaslight me. I like see it on Snapchat. Yeah. She's got the fish and all the gossips, filthy rich, pretty and pink. Hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks, she's just Trish. Yay! Hello everyone and welcome to the Just Trish Podcast. It's a beautiful day here in California. It's overcast, but it is beautiful. Not too rainy. Kind of the perfect day, if you will.

We're feeling so festive. We got cinnamon rolls sent to us from All About That Cinnamon. We have our rainbow flag made from one of our viewers at the Heirs of Trish Shore, which continues this weekend in Portland, Phoenix. And May 4th, here in Los Angeles at the Greek Theater, gender reveal. Is the bun in the oven blue or is the bun in the oven pink?

I know. All About the Cinnamon Roll sent that. Yeah, they're pretty cute. So cute. Trisha's bun in the oven. I love it. So we'll see. Not that it matters. We don't see gender here.

And speaking of, we got the Protected Doll shirt. We had a discussion about this a couple weeks ago. This is a knockoff. But the original shirt was to raise money for Trans Lifeline. So on behalf of the Just Church podcast, we donated $10,000 to Trans Lifeline. Yay. They're wonderful. The more I looked into this, yes.

Round of applause for Trans Lifeline. Donate if you can. We'll put the link below. They made these amazing shirts that all went to it, but they sold out so quickly. Yeah, they're literally on back order for months. Yes, and it's beautiful. It's wonderful. At first, I just was like, my god i love it love the message it's cute but what trans lifeline does is actually so important and each donation 25 will connect you connect a

trans person to a peer because it's all ran by the trans community so you get peer-to-peer support they offer resources um i think 450 can help someone change their id like just that's the fiat cost to change so there's just so many different resources, obviously for protection, for mental wellbeing, for physical wellbeing, make sure all their needs are taken care of. In a crazy time right now in 2025, it's really sad that like basic human rights are at risk,

but Trans Lifeline is doing amazing, amazing work. So when I like looked into it, I was like, loved it. Cause I got the shirt. And then when you said the knockoff, I didn't know what the original shirts went to a charity. So I was just like, okay, let's like looked into it, I was like, loved it because I got the shirt. And then when you said the knockoff, I didn't know the original shirts went to a charity. So I was just like, okay, let's look into it. And then I was like, this is amazing and beautiful.

So if you can, donate. We love it. Protect the dolls. Protect all trans people and all humans. That's what it is at the end of the day. You know what I mean? So we're here and we're queer and we love it. Okay.

Speaking of, hi. Speaking of queers, hello. Speaking of queers, hello. Speaking of queers, you look great. I love this fashion. I reheated Not Loved Lines nachos. I took the upholstery off that little sofa on the set and I made a little hoodie. I'm wearing my I Heart Tana Mongeau shirt. I was thinking, I hope there is no international scandal with Tana, with the wine lady, because

I think that was her last big scandal, right? Was that in Europe? That was in Europe, yeah. So no wine tours overseas, Tana. Let's avoid those. Avoid hiking. Don't jinx it. After we film, it's always like, right after we film, something happens.

I feel like she's been low-key. She's been so low-key. Right? Yeah. I feel... Europe sounds crazy, though, to go to. Just all her stories in the hospital and the airports. I mean, it all just sounds...

Yes. A lot. Although her photo shoot in front of the eiffel tower with makoa was something fierce i loved it i know and then she was everyone thought they were engaged or pregnant yeah i should have shut that down she did i liked her message day on tiktok where she was like the are you engaged is the new like go brunette like everybody just wants them to get married like we're just dating for a year and a half like let us enjoy dating true it has it weirdly feels so much longer but it yeah it really has only just been a year and a half and they're young they're like 26 and you know what i'm guilty of this too i'm always like when are you gonna get married it's like you let people just date forever if they want honestly yeah i love it and then did you just have a cheetah sweater i've never seen you in cheetah and i love it yeah i um got this

from uh shane dawson's favorite store, Abercrombie and Fitch. Is it Abercrombie? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Psychic. That's crazy. I literally, it does look really good.

Recently or a while ago? A couple of months ago. Yeah. Let's see if it's still online. You are giving Shane, Joel Goldberg, and Tana all in one today. Okay. Work. Yeah.

Okay. Work. I had to contemplate that combination, but yeah, sure. I love it. No, I love this whole combo. You are looking so cute in your converse. Oh, thanks. And all of that.

We're doing Patreon later. Patreon.com slash JessJesh. We're answering your Q's and A's. Are we going to try the McCrispy strips today? I think so. Jimmy suggested that as well, actually. Did he? Yes.

But I don't want to give you his opinion on the McCrispy tenders. I didn't like it. So we don't, you know influence our own opinions okay so maybe we should order some backup nuggets just in case because i know when you don't like something it's just like oh um yeah sometimes their nuggets don't hit there they had a spicy nugget not too long ago and it wasn't it wasn't everything so it may not hit the same i always get backup food just smart yeah what do you think i had i don't know that's smart or just the fatty in me but you look great you look so cute

it's been quite a morning I started my physical decompression therapy on my spine it's kind of crazy it kind of feels like a jewel sparkles bionic spine kind of thing because they strap you in a machine

and stretch you out basically oh my gosh they're gonna get taller i weirdly i did get um my right side was like almost almost not not half an inch less than half an inch a quarter of an inch i guess was half an inch or a quarter inch shorter so yeah i did get that sorted out as well yeah it's quite crazy i don't know how are you feeling does it hurt are you in pain um it feels funny i have like a little back brace and everything too it's right now not right now i took it off to film because it's intense it is like it does give me good posture though but it

kind of is like a corset in a in a way so i do feel kind of cut you in yeah like really sucks you in yeah and it keeps you not wearing straight. You look like you have a corset. You look so tiny. No, just thanks right now. Thank you. You look great. Oh, man. You look so tiny.

I mean, not to whatever, but you look so skinny. I think it's the baggy jeans and then the baggy hoodie definitely helps. Proportionizing, for sure. I do. I always say that. Oversize. I'm a 3X everything. I love it.

For our audio listeners, I do look extra teeny. We have to start lying to the audio listeners. I know. I know. Just tell them. No, but you are. You're extra teeny. It's also very Shane- listeners. I know, I know. Just tell it. No, but you are. You're extra teeny. It's also very Shane coded.

I saw Shane this morning on a TikTok. I know everyone's like, oh my gosh, Shane. I'm sorry. It's my algorithm. He did another one with that guy. You know the one where he was interviewed in the mall? Yeah. I think it's the same guy.

Was it the same guy? Seems like it. Same person. You'd be odd if it's not. Taco Bell. And he was like, what's your Taco Bell order? And it's Shane standing with a Baja Blast in his like bag. And then he gets the Baja Blast and goes through the bag of what he ordered.

And he was teeny tiny. And I can say that because Shane will take that as a compliment. One thing I know about Shane is skinny is a compliment to him. He looks great. I think especially too, everything else aside, just knowing like lifelong struggles with weight and then like getting to a place where you feel comfortable. He's comfortable enough where he gets like dressed cute and like go out and be seen full body on camera as a former still struggling you know with weight and uh seeing someone like that i'm like

wow good for him that he is yeah he feels good like you can tell he feels good yes i feel like that as a remy joe i'm like you know what i know they feel fire can i say i know i talk a lot about my insecurity about my weight but i i always feel. I always feel like I want to show full body. Love. I mean, sometimes I like look back and I'm like, oh, I don't know why, but I love a full body moment. I don't know. Even on this, I like show my entire body. I'm like, I kind of like the way I look sometimes. You should. Yeah, it's weird. You definitely should. It's such a weird thing though from going to like hating how you look to be like, I look really good. And then it's just like, I don't know. That's such a mind thing.

It's like, wait, why do I like the way I look? I look good. I don't know what to say. Maybe I'm wearing baggy shirts. I don't know why. There is something about the psychology of the oversized. Yeah. I feel like so teeny tiny.

Like, I'm going to be crisscross applesauce up here. I'll just be like, oh, my God, look how small I am. I can probably do it. Let me see. Yeah, you are. Wow, okay. Oh, my God. I'm so tiny. While pregnant.

While pregnant, yes. That is hard to get the belly over, but I'm feeling teeny tiny. And I'm not teeny tiny. For the audio listeners, I'm not teeny tiny. But it's a state of mind, and I think that's all that matters. Yes, I think that was one of the first things we said in episode

one of Just Trish, that skinny legend is a state of mind. And honestly, years later, that sentiment still stands. Yes. People shout it all the time to me. During my Fat Chicks era, they're always just like, you're a skinny legend. And I was like, love it. Even though we're talking about fat and body positivity, I'm like, yes, absolutely. What I noticed, I know we talked about you last time, but what I noticed, we just started

watching it. Yesterday was our day off. Okay, Fish King. Tin Fish King. Who sent that to you? Is that from the tour? That's actually kind of cool. Viewer sent it to me.

Oh. Yeah, to give it to Moses. Shout out Jeffrey. He also made me a rainbow Birkin. No way. Yeah. Where is it? It's in my streaming room. It's part of my streaming set now.

Oh my God. You have to bring it. I should, yes. That's so iconic. Okay, love that. Shout out. That's actually everything. We started watching you yesterday

because we already asked we'd like binge like six episodes never never can get a fatty in that box I'll tell you that he never puts a plus size

gal in there oh my god T he could never catch me you're actually so right I'm really trying to think right there hasn't been no never

has there even been a plus on the show on the streets of New York or London or LA no Greg Berlanti executive producer is like no fat people on this show has there even been a plus on the in the streets of new york or london or la greg brillanti executive producer is like no fat people on this show oh my god but it makes sense because when he clunked spoiler i don't know he clunked someone on the head to drag them into the i guess it happens every season really to project him to the box i was thinking about that i was

like how's he gonna get her in the box gringes is a small person but he is also petite so i was thinking about that i'm like if he clocked me in the head could he move me to the box. Grinj is a small person, but he is also petite. So I was thinking about that. I'm like, if he clocked me in the head, could he move me to the box? That is a good like plot hole because we never really see Joe Goldberg like work out or lift or train, but he does carry a lot of dead weight. Literally. Yeah. In the past seasons, he's like brought down a lot of really big guys too. That is so true. How strong is Joel Goldberg? That is a good question. Yeah, we should look into it. But I would survive him.

Probably. Also probably wouldn't even be interested in me because he always liked the petite girls on the show, which I'm fine. Preference is okay, by the way. You don't always have to like a fat person. I'm not just saying it would be nice for me to be in new season five.

I didn't get the role. I love it. It's over now? It's done? Yes, it is officially done. No. I was thinking it would be kind of messed up. But I was thinking maybe down the line because, you know, they love a reboot.

I was like, I feel like you could almost do a reboot with Henry. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert for you. Season five. Pregnant pause to give people time. P could almost see like Henry being like a little Joe Goldberg-esque I guess it is like the nurture versus nurture development but both his parents are killers so yeah and he was abandoned by them yeah it does seem like a recipe for disaster or he'll become a detective oh i love that for moses you're opposite of what it was serial killer stop the cycle yeah okay work that's a good idea the positivity aspect of it you never

know they are rebooting desperate housewives yeah this is your opportunity if i've ever seen it i'm excited do we know if it's like in this era or is it supposed to be like a different decade i don't know if they've said like what time period it is like if it's modernized or if it's still like the time where best for housewives and i also heard it was like gonna be like a 60s one like they were gonna go back to the original serial lane and like when it first started i'm couldn't be more excited for this i like actually couldn't be more excited for this show more than anything in the whole world.

Like Desperate Housewives was our show. We probably watched it twice through the all every season. I had Moses dress up as every single person, Orson, everybody. Like whoever he was, I was like, you're going to dress up as the person. We walked to the actual streets of. We walked to Serial Lane. Every time we go to Universal, I just pop on over there. I just want to show there at Universal so we can just always hang out at with serial

like on our lunch breaks just go you know do tiktoks do they give you lunch breaks on tv shows i don't even know yes of course you're mandated a lunch break oh really yeah and if you don't take it then what are you breaking sag after or whatever yeah are you saying after no really i'm surprised because you've been on camera for et don't have to be on i was digital there's um you have like i forgot how many if you aren't sag after to do like tv hosting work you have i think like two or three um jobs that you can do until you have to become sag after yeah it's so funny i have to because i remember back in the day it was like i was like trying to get any sake after-AFTRA jobs. I could too join the union.

You know, it was like – but I got lucky. It was AFTRA and SAG. They were separate. So I joined AFTRA which was like cheaper at the time. But then when they merged I got automatically lumped into SAG. So now I'm SAG-AFTRA. And I was scared because Moses like started paying the bills like when we like got married and stuff.

And I thought like, oh my gosh, what if he didn't renew, you know, my SAG-AFTRA because I didn't know if he knew what it was or if I was like worth like doing but he has been doing it every because i did a tv show this year and i had to be saying after and i was like oh my god have you been renewing it and he's like yes i have been which is great because it's like every six months you gotta pay i don't know two hundred dollars i have no idea what it is but i never want to lose it because it's so hard to like get it and it's like expensive now even back then when i joined in 2007 was like eighteen hundred dollars for after i think it was like expensive now even back then when i joined in 2007 was like eighteen hundred dollars for after i'd i think it was like three thousand for sag and i was like that's so expensive

so gotta hang on to that gotta keep i still got those residuals from nathan for you 42 cents every single month i love it keep them coming well shout out 20th century or 20th television that's the studio that's doing the um theate Housewives spinoff. We know you're set up for it. Yes. Yes, an easy in there. Oh, my God. I just want to, like, audition. Like, I haven't been able to, like, audition.

You know, I think I can nail a self-tape. I've done one self-tape and I got the role. So I feel like I can nail the self-tapes. Was the self-tape, like, for a character based on you? Or was it, like, for a character? I can't disclose that. Okay, work. Okay, work.

But it was a character. Okay, work. Yes. It was a character. Okay, work. Yes. It was a character. That reminds me. Have you seen JoJo Siwa's live action Tangled audition? Yes. Love.

So good, actually. Every day I see more and more evidence that JoJo Siwa is possibly related to you somehow. I'm thinking somehow you're a biological child i don't know how absolutely i need like a 23 me to be done because what year was she born because maybe i was like blacked out on the streets of hollywood the years that i blacked out i don't remember anything could possibly have given birth to jojo 21 so it must have been what 2004 oh that is that's close to a black i disassociated those years 2003 may 19 2003 do you have any recollection of where you were i No, I was bouncing around. I ended up in my dad's house for a little while.

Then I did homeschooling where I wasn't actually being homeschooled. 2003 was that year. It was my freshman year and I wasn't in school. I was just hopping around. I disassociated. So maybe, maybe that's giving birth. That's why I don't remember. That would be wild. Okay, let's do a 23andMe. Let's not do 23andMe. I think it's going to cancel. Yeah. But the audition tape is so funny. Jimmy, I'm sure, will insert it here. He's the one that sent it to me, so shout out, Jimmy.

I love that. You don't send me the tape. Hey, Jimmy. Is your mother proud of that? My mother died when I was young. Oh, I'm sorry. Who took care of you? I took care of myself.

That's how I became a thief. Speaking of there, the snuggly duckling with horses out front, as I suspected. Oh my gosh! Horses! Look, Pascal! Yes, they're horses. Are we going to ride them? That's the plan. Who do they belong to? I don't know.

How are we going to pay for them? I'm not going to pay for them. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're going to steal them? That was kind of the plan. It is one of the wildest things i've ever seen it's just like i don't know if jojo is capable of being anyone other than jojo i don't know if she can get like lost in the character like that i feel like she was rapunzel like i thought she was so good i think if she would have had like the hair her face was so on i thought her acting was on i don't know

like her reactions were good because i think the hardest part is like reacting to someone. I thought she ate for real for real. Not even in a camp way. Not even in the Katy Perry like dance way. She was actually like I thought good. It was so good. So not in the camp way like a legitimate actor way. Yes. Okay. I mean it's a Disney live action. You know what I mean? It's just like at this point just give it to JoJo.

I think that would actually help it. Can you imagine a live action Disney princess saga is Halle Bailey, Emma Watson, Rachel Zegler, Joni Joelle Seawall. That's kind of iconic. An iconic Hall of Fame. I think she would crush. I do think she would crush.

I think sometimes too, especially when you get a good director and a good acting coach with her, I think she would, because she was kind of naturally good. I saw Beyond JoJo. Okay. You didn't. Did you think it was not good i saw jojo with some flowers in her hair and i think that was kim kardashian i think i see kim kardashian when she acts but jojo a i wanted to hear her sing the songs yeah all the tangled self tapes have been

out there now everyone's been posting there i guess because it's not happening anymore yeah i think because it's been paused that these things are just coming out now do you think because did they ever cast anyone? They never cast someone. No. There was rumors. There was rumors that Sabrina Carpenter was one of the top choices for Rapunzel and that Milo Manheim – is that his last name?

Yes. He's currently Seymour in the Top of Horrors. What's he from though? I don't know what he's from. He's from another Paramount Plus show. I think it's called like – oh my God. Spirit High or something like that I want to say. mom is cameron manheim from law and order oh okay that kind of makes sense she was also in robin michelle i was wondering where he came from

he's talented school yeah he was in school spirits and zombies those disney channel movies oh yeah random yeah i just know him i see more and he's so good at it and I was like oh he's so amazing. Oh okay I could see him being like a Flynn Rider. That could be him. Yeah. I heard those two names bounce around a lot but now who knows. I feel like they need a break anyway from. I don't know. I have a feeling

Lilo and Stitch are going to be a hit and they're going to be like bring him out again. Let's do this again you know. Yeah. I couldn't be more excited about Lilo and Stitch. Like the actual new movie because I just think the girl that plays lilo is like the perfect cast so cute so good go check the et tiktok of them doing the side by side that oscar edited it was so good like it's so true to the original it's so accurate like it looks so good everything's lilo and stitch now at target like i've been last night to stay up it was like midnight and i was just like it's like why are you still up and i'm like i have to buy every single Lilo and Stitch thing I see online.

I bought the Crocs. I bought the kids stuff at Target. My daughter's birthday is going to be Lilo and Stitch. By the way, people had really good suggestions. I was asking everyone on Instagram for Lilo and Stitch themed ideas for a one-year-old's party. And they're like, get a laymaking station to make lays. That's making me so emo because we, at my summer camp when I was little, we went to the, what's it called the

the theater that they always do like the disney experiences is it the chinese theater oh no the dolby oh el capitan yes thank you i used to work there yeah there you go we um our summer camp took us to the el capitan for like the lilo and stitch like experience when the movie came out not like the premiere but you know they kept the little activations and stuff. And one of the activities we did was laymaking. Oh, okay. So someone knew. Someone was on it. I have to do that again. Oh, my God. That'd be so cool. It's like a core memory because I loved Lilo and Stitch

and I loved, like, all the music in it. Do you have your picture from it of your day? I don't think we did photos there. I remember, like, I just remember going and being on the bus. I remember making a lanyard on the way to the bus. Such really random flashes. And then, yeah, making the lays. What else did they do there?

Any more ideas? I think there was like a little sandbox or something to like build something with sandcastles. How old were you? I was, I must have been, when did Lilo and Stitch come out? Let me see. I was like maybe high school. I would say 2003. I was 10.

It came out 2002. Oh, I was so close. Or nine because it came out before I turned 10, yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay, so that makes sense. You were like maybe high school. I would say 2003. I was 10. It came out 2002. Oh, I was so close. Or 9 because it came out before I turned 10, yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay, so that makes sense. You were like a little kid. Yeah. Some people had suggested like peanut butter sandwiches.

I have to watch the movie again. Like peanut butter sandwiches. What a good idea, you guys. Oh my God. No, they were killing it. They said like hula lessons for like the little kids. I was like that would be so cute too. So cute.

So literally at the midnight I was like emailing our party planner and I was like actually can we get some like hula dancers in here? And yeah, I think I'm like really excited. Then I did the lore I didn't know about Angel because I didn't get to like – is there a sequel? Yes. So there's like a little pink stitch. Yes.

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Thanks to Kickoff for sponsoring us. We love you. So I was looking at that because I was like, what am I wearing? Should I be the pink stitch? Like it was this whole thing. Ooh, you should be Pleakley. Who's that?

Pleakley? Pleakley, the little alien who's like a drag queen and he wears like wigs and stuff to be. Okay, kind of fierce. Okay, I didn't know this from the first movie. Oh my God,

and Moses can be Jumba because he wears the Hawaiian shirt. Who's Jumba? He's like Piggly's partner. Okay, so they're, oh, they're like little FBI, like men in black.

They're like from, they're trying to, they're from wherever Planet Stitch is from and they're trying to catch Stitch again. That could be so cute and he wears a Hawaiian shirt. Yeah, they're from, and they're trying to catch Stitch again. That could be so cute. And he wears a Hawaiian shirt.

Yeah, they're in disguise in Hawaii trying to do intel and then catch Stitch. And Jumbo wears the big Hawaiian shirts, and then Pleakley wears wigs and big hats and Hawaiian dresses. Done and done. We're doing it. I did order him a Hawaiian Lilo and Stitch shirt on DisneyStore.com. Everything has Lilo and Stitch right now, so I got you a blue one, too. So that would be perfect. Get some sunglasses on. You can get a little lei. It we'll have the dole whip love so excited for the dole whip i know i was on my my day off i was

just doing my invitations i sent we have my birthday we have mother's day and we have elvis's birthday so i just been sending i sent like three invite i think i sent you like yes like don't feel pressured to come to all these i was sending like people like so many invites i was so excited yeah i'm excited too you can dress up yeah well ironically too um I'm babysitting me and Darren are babysitting my two nephews that day wait really because yeah my brother and uh sister-in-law are going out of town she has to do like a work thing in San Diego that day so I was already supposed to babysit them oh my god that's so crazy so yeah it'll be because I said you could bring your whole family bring everyone so I'll bring the the two oh my god that's so crazy so yeah it'll be because I said you could bring your whole family bring everyone so I'll bring the two

oh my god that's so exciting yes Layton and Bennett Layton's really like pretty much down for whatever he's pretty easy to like entertain

he's a little bit older and then Bennett is Malibu's age and he's a little more he likes Darian more than me weirdly Layton likes me more

but you know it happens that age there's always a favorite there's always someone I think Malibu is I'm starting to become Malibu's favorite I think

because she was so excited for our spa day our mask day I'm like finally my time to shine with the nail polish the makeup

so I feel like I'm taking over a little bit but that age yeah they're just you know and you never know it's good and bad days you just never know we tried to leave for lunch yesterday

Malibu was not having it I'm like you know what let's just stay and then she doesn't want upstairs she was a bed girl yesterday she just wanted to stay in bed all day i was like she is your daughter because she like never wanted to leave the bed and usually she's not like that she likes to play outside she's like whatever but i was like just let her rest she's had some busy weeks traveling you know so it's going to be

an extravaganza lilo and stitch we love you i would love i hope we can get invited to that like if they do another like activation thing. Oh yeah. How'd you get invited? Oh you went to your Yeah, it wasn't like through Disney. It was just like anyone who got a ticket to the seat at the El Capitan could you know, do the little experience or whatever. I do love that theater so much.

Yeah, it was really cute and such a core memory. I'm excited for a new generation to love Lilo and Stitch. It's so cute. Especially the live action. It's just like wholesome and fun. Yeah, and Maya, the little girl who plays Lilo and Stitch. It's so cute. Especially the live action is just like wholesome and fun and wonderful. Yeah. And Maya, the little girl who plays Lilo

is just like the most sweet, precious angel. Her enemies are cute. Yes. It's like crazy at that age like you're starring in a movie. That's crazy. I know.

How do you do that? Breakout role. Her first role. That's wild. Yeah. It's so cute. I'm excited to see it. Can't wait.

Yeah. She's such a little cutie. I'm so excited. I hope no one is me. I think wait. Yeah, she's such a little cutie. I'm so excited. I hope no one is mean. I think everyone's liking it, but I hope no one is, like, on the hate train and wants to just be mean because it's Disney. Yeah, you can be mean to a little kid. If you're mean to a little kid, then you're, like, something's wrong with you.

Especially, like, a lead in a movie. Mm-hmm. That'd be crazy. That'd be wild. That's a whole other thing. People are usually pretty nice to kids. I hope so. But even, like, the movie in general, you know, even if people, like, leave her alone

but then are terrorizing the whole movie, like... I think it's going to be a hit. I predict it's going to be... I hope so. But even like the movie in general, you know, even if people leave her alone but then are terrorizing the whole movie. I think it's going to be a hit. I think so too. It's like tracking to do really really well. Probably one of the best movies for the summer. Like for Disney. Love it. Is that the next big one that comes out?

Yeah. Thunderbolts is this weekend. The Marvel movie. Your future co-star is Florence Pugh oh you love her yes I do love Florence Pugh yeah

she's a superhero yeah she is um Black Widow we tried to explain this oh what I thought that was Scarlett Johansson

yeah spoiler alert from a movie from six years ago but Scarlett Johansson died in Avengers Endgame and um yeah this is Scarlett Johansson's sister, Natasha.

I love that, though. She's like, I'm taking over. Yeah, well, there was a Black Widow movie where it was kind of like the passing of the torch. We saw that in theaters and fell asleep for sure. Yeah, it was like the only movie out. It wasn't a great movie, but you know, it doesn't take much to impress me.

So you're going to see Thunderbolt? Yeah, it's mostly like a Florence Pugh movie with like other anti-heroes, I guess, as support. Like, you know, Sebastian Stan? Yes. Oh, work! He played Tommy Lee and Donald Trump. There you go. Yes. Yes, I like him.

He's always playing people. David Harbour is also, you know, David Harbour. He was in Stranger Things. Yes. Yes. Wait. Was he in the Black Widow movie? Yeah. I forgot. Yes.

Okay. Because I was like, wait. I remember him being like in the snow or something. He was the dad. He was Scarlett Johansson and Florence Pugh's dad. Married to Lily Allen. Yes. Not anymore.

In real life. Not anymore. Yes. But – What happened? I forget what she said. That was recent. They separated pretty recently.

Yeah. The last couple months. We don't know what happens. Do you think people owe us an apology of why – or an explanation of why they broke up? No. I feel like they do. I feel like – well, maybe not them. But I feel like if you're public, like if me and Moe's broke – I feel like if I'm

just like give us our privacy, we won't talk about it. But I'm like, I don't know. Don't you feel like I should explain to you what happened? Like you're so involved with our lives. And then all of a sudden it's like, actually, no, we're not telling you. I think that's the difference. Like they're involved in our lives, but he's famous. Like they're not, being a couple is not the content.

I don't know about that. But that's not their content. They don't go making TikToks together. But they're still a public couple and we're all invested in that. They're just public. That's it. Yeah. But I want still a public couple and we're all invested in them. They're just public. That's it. Yeah. They're not.

But I want to know. You know what I mean? Like, I'm invested in them because they're famous. I think especially if there's like, I mean, I don't know if there's kids in their case, but like say,

like I'm thinking of a couple everyone loves right now, like Leighton Meester and Adam Brody. Like if anything happened to them, like I feel like they would just release a statement. We've decided to go our separate ways. But you don't want it to get messy because kids will read that at some point, you know?

We don't have to go full on Kanye, but you could just say, like, hey, he cheated. But what if there was no, like, big inciting incident? What if they just grew apart? Oh, well, no one even says that. Like, we just grew apart. Like, it always, like, we remain best of friends. Yeah, that's true. But I think, again, if there's kids, like, wouldn't you rather read that than, like, yeah.

I just want to know. I was thinking about, I was kind of thinking about that, yeah, because Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz were engaged and they broke up a couple months ago. Yes. And they're both moved on already. Like Channing Tatum has a new girlfriend. He moves on quickly all the time I feel. I feel like he's always in a new relationship. He was with Jessie J for

a while and then from Jessie J's next public one was Zoe Kravitz and they were together for a couple years. He's in a lot of people's DMs. I don't know that much. Oh. People in real life too. They're like they'll show me too. They're like I'm like are you sure it's chaining tatum because i feel like whatever and they'll show me they'll go to instagram and then click on the profile and it's like a little blue check mark and i was like and it's like very not whatever to them but like it's like very random people i'm

like how did he even find you like that's so i think he's dating an influencer now right i think really yeah they just went instagram official. Delaney Rowe. No. Inca Williams. Oh, Instagram official. What does that mean? He posted a photo of her? I think, yeah. I forget if it was on Inca's or Channing, but one of them posted a couple photo. That is, that's so sad.

Yeah, the Inca posted it. She's 25. He's 45. Do with that what you will yeah why okay well we don't need to get into it again but why what who is this oh is it bradley cooper he's dating someone young jiji hadid how old is she 30 he's like 50 something right i think she is she is 30 yeah how old is he he's in his 50s i think oh no 50 yeah i guess 45 25 is okay i don't know whatever do what you want i guess developed at least so there's that yeah and at least his past two serious girlfriends were old like they weren't young so it's not like he has a Leo,

Nardo DiCaprio pattern of, you know. Right, right, right. The 25 is so crazy. When I think about 25, it's like, oh my God, that's so young.

But like, and I'm 36. I still think 25 is so young. I always forget, because like, I get it, because like Tana's like 26, but I always forget she's like so young.

And I'm like, wow, because she's been around for so long. So when we do talk and do the podcast, I'm like, I forget how young she is. Like it's crazy. Because it's like, when she was talking about the engagement stuff, I'm like wow because she's been around for so long so when we do talk and do the podcast I forget how young she is like it's crazy because it's like when she's talking about the engagement stuff I was like oh yeah like why are people pressuring it she's so young yeah so like you're still so young at that age but I mean you know stuff at 26 but

I guess this is Hollywood I need to just get over everyone's just dating everyone 20 years younger than them so yeah even beyond like that um age gap relationship or whatever i was more thinking too like damn like they were engaged they were in love they were so public and then just a couple months later like they're so moved on and i'm like i just can't i mean obviously it may like i get how people move on and stuff but it's just weird thinking about me like i couldn't imagine like being with someone for you know five years and then like within a couple months being like posting somewhere new yeah i could never either i think about that too i was like oh my god like you ever broke up i'm like that is crazy to even like think about dating someone else but then also

just like post someone else all of a sudden you're like well where's moses like i don't know it's so um probably easier for me to move on i think if you posted a girl a couple months after, I think people would be like, unfollow. You know me, I don't post anyone until you're married. There's a ring. Yeah, it is weird. I think about that with my favorite couple was Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet. Yeah, because they were together for so long. And he was always like obsessed with her. He's like, I married the hottest chick. I married my high school crush. Like all the stuff like that. And then obviously it's been years but he brought a new. He's like my

lady at the Minecraft premiere. And I was like and like obviously like you move on. It's fine and probably she has too. Like whatever. But it does make me. Yeah. When you know someone as someone. It's just like so sad. Who does it? There's a YouTube couple who still click baits their like like we love each other like god who is it oh they're so old you probably

don't even know i mean they're probably my age but um they're like an og couple and they used to do pranks on each other i know exactly who you're talking about i think jesse is one of jesse and jenny maybe and they used to do like they were beloved They used to do these pranks and people were like, we love them. And they still make content together. Like, we're getting back together. Like, we're not broken up. Like, it's been literally 15 years, I think, since they broke up and they still make this content. Were they prank versus prank?

Prank versus prank! Yes. And they used to get, like, literally this is like 2006, 2007. Like, they got so many views. People were, like, obsessed with them. And, like, yeah. Then they broke many views. People were obsessed with them. Then they broke up and no one cared about them anymore. Truly, not to be whatever, but they broke up and their whole brand fell apart.

Now I see they're making vlogs together. I mean, they're probably fine. They're probably not vloggers anymore. Jessie and Gina, I believe is how you pronounce her name. Gina, yes. Wow, it is all coming back to me. It's so crazy. Then they kind of disappeared, whatever. Like I said they're probably fine they probably made a ton of money whatever they're probably they don't need to vlog but now they're kind of coming back like using each other and the

thumbnails again yeah i mean they have to be my age or older i would assume because they were like engaged and stuff like or maybe they weren't even engaged i think they dated like a really long time or like never engaged yeah and their whole youtube career they were like a couple yes yeah and so when they broke up like i mean really their whole brand fell apart which is like crazy they're the opposite of jake and tara where it was like they thrived after a breakup and now it's like yeah it's so interesting because you just know someone as together and then i think that's the downfall of david dobrik i think when him and liza broke up i think he went like – he went full on Joker. He went full on just like this is my villain origin story because like he was like – I

met him when he was still with Liza and then like a couple months later they did the breakup video and he was like so happy and so just like puppy dog like going over. She's making me frozen pizza. Like just so whatever. And then like after that he just started like I hate every single female in this world. Oh. So that's why I was like maybe that was the villain origin story of David Dobrik. But it does suck.

It does suck. She thrived, I guess. So it's always interesting to see after a breakup too, like who, like, not to say David didn't thrive. I guess he did. It made money. But yeah, it is. I'm trying to think of like a YouTube couple where like one has gone on to have so much

success while the other one didn't. I mean, you see it on TikTok, like Chris, we just talked about his. That is true. And Ian was probably more successful than Chris when they started because he was like a Broadway dancer and danced behind Ariana Grande and stuff. But, right, they were a couple. But you kind of forget about it. You're kind of like, damn, I kind of forgot about them.

I did love them. We watched them in quarantine. That was, yeah, that was their best. Oh yeah that was their best oh that's the best of them yeah um yeah it is it is interesting yeah who had more or i always want to think too like after someone breaks up like is there someone who successfully had another relationship that everyone like championed oh yeah you know even celebrities i'm trying to think because it never really is it's always like a comparison like okay

it's on that person because look at Justin and Selena like no one can get over them you know where's the ace family I think there's a podcast do you ever hear about them

no they have podcasts out I think the whatever their names are the not the aces the guys the boys the boys like god what is his

name austin mcgrew and the other one and the brother and the brother had a podcast i remember when they started it because they said something weird and i was like what is going on here but they said something weird on the podcast it was something off-putting and i remember being like okay what's going on here but that's the last i heard i feel like they don't have a podcast anymore i would hear about it because i'm pretty like tuned in tapped in also everyone that we forget about was just like on snap making like a ton of money so that's the tea right there like where did they go honestly kudos to them yeah if they're making money elsewhere but hmm did you see tara yummy um do a tiktok Kenzie, Luby, like Jake's current girlfriend?

I missed it. What was the TikTok? They did Girl So Confusing, which is like. What is that one? It's like Wicked Out on the remix. It's like that song, which means it's very fitting. It makes sense for. Were they fighting ever?

Were they ever beefing? I think because there was so much like fan speculation because like anytime jake vlogs it's always tara that's featured instead of his girlfriend kenzie um so there's always that um rhetoric which is like if i was dating um jake and he was posting his ex-girlfriend this much and they were hanging out and doing tart trips and blah blah blah then i it would not fly with me so there's been that speculation i do feel we'll see separation i mean she probably did the tiktok to be like no we're cool but it won't always be like there's no way there's no way you're gonna be besties with that person you know even if they're like the nicest sweetest and they both are i met both of them and they both are like so nice so sweet they seem like girls girls for sure

but also like it just won't i don't know but it's good for it it can be good for a tiktok it can be good for social media like okay look we're cool together but um god i remember that podcast i i don't even remember the name it doesn't even matter but it was one that tara was on and then they had the x come on oh yes yes um dropouts yeah not to be shady but even like what even happened to that you know it's like after that it kind of was like oh like true because she remember she was being quiet and then the girl was being and then people Not to be shady, but even like what even happened to that. You know, it's like after that, it kind of was like, oh. True. Because she remember she was being quiet and then the girl was being – and then people were like, oh, I feel bad for Tara. And I don't even know what was happening in that.

I just – I know we talked about it. I remember – don't get it twisted. I do remember the whole – the guy. Yes. But I'm just saying that I think – The dynamics between Tara and Indiana. Right. Yes.

So everyone kind of – they're trying to be like, we're cool. We're cool. But it like never came across that way. And then it kind of – everyone started looking into everything more and we're just like – Yeah. Yeah. So everyone kind of – they're trying to be like, we're cool, we're cool. But it like never came across that way and then it kind of – everyone started looking into everything more and we're just like – Yeah. So anyways, I hope they're all well. Yeah, same. Mentally well too. Yeah.

And it also makes sense I guess why Jake hasn't really posted Kenzie that much because he was even on here before I think dating Kenzie and he was like, next time I have a relationship, like I would not be like as public about it. Cause he just like, he said it put too much weird, like pressure and like too many people like, you know, I didn't remember day one that I met Jake. The first time I met Jake, she was at the house.

Cause I remember she was there and I was like, Oh, she's so pretty or like whatever. Um, but yeah, he, he kind of told me, but then didn't cause I think he probably thought I had a big

month, but then he told me that he was kind of like, yes, no, kind of. But like, I don't talk about it, whatever. And I was like, okay. So I think we've been dating like quite a while. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense.

In my opinion, I think. Yeah. And she is so pretty. So pretty. I literally, we're oomphies. I mean, kind of. Are you? Yeah.

I think we are too. That's funny. On TikTok or Instagram? Instagram, yeah. I don't know if I follow her on Instagram. She was so nice. She's gorge. She seems really, really cool.

And – Whenever a pretty girl, like, likes me, I'm always just, like, so intimidated. I get so insecure right away. I mean, now I'm, like, old, so, like, whatever. But, I mean, I still – like, a little bit of me in, like, high school is, like, oh, my gosh. I'm just, like, pretty girls talking to me. I'm a little nervous, you know? I get a little shy.

But – I – like, when I followed her, I literally couldn't even help it. But I – something takes over me, and, like, I get full, I literally couldn't even help it. I something takes over me and like I get full like unfiltered. Ah, triggered. Ironic. Okay. But I was like, damn, like, I don't understand. If I looked like you, I would be ruining men's lives.

Like you are the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. She was so sweet about it. You wrote it to her? Yes. How did you start that? How was the preface? You said something. I think I was just like liking her.

Like her photos kept coming up. Like, you know, when you just follow someone, then they show up a lot in your algorithm. And I was just liking everyone that came up and being like, damn, I don't know how she could possibly like look like this. You commented on it. Yeah. There's one where I was just like, I can't. Like, how are you even a real human being?

Yeah. That's good. You should let people know that when you feel that way. Yeah. And it's very like unthreatening. Jake has nothing to worry about obviously. No, but it feels so good because I feel like, you know, I don't know how it feels to be a pretty girl.

But I'm sure they get insecure too. I'm sure they do. You know what it feels like to be a pretty girl. No. Not like that. Not like – because what was it Madison Beer who was like it's a curse to be so hot. Like I feel like that I can never relate to. But I'm like I feel like some of those, like, hot girls probably feel

bad about themselves sometimes. Yeah, hot girls have problems too, as we've learned. Different kind of problems, but. I forgot about that song. Where did that come from again?

What do I mean? It's a song. Yeah. Hot girls, we have problems too. Except we're, we're just like you, except we're hot.

Where does that come from? Probably that song. I'm sure. Where's the origin of the song youtube i think it was just like girls on youtube because i think i did a hot girl problems video a long time ago you are so right is it 2011 or something double take 2012 wow yeah i remember that was the era because i think i did a video trying to be that i just copied edny trend that was so coming along funny hot girls we have problems too just like you except we're hot is this new was i supposed to show this i forgot

to show this you showed it last episode no this is a different one i know they love it i just opened the other um suitcase and there were more things more crocheting i love everyone this one looks really pretty and there's's one shirt. Oh, yeah. Show that shirt over there. Wow. Somebody commented on the shirt. I was like, I didn't see a shirt. Oh, yeah.

Love it. Wow. It's like airbrush. Yeah, that was cool. Oh, it looks big, too. I'm going to wear that on the next one. I remember they held it up in the crowd. I saw it.

I was like, bring that up here. How cute. Yeah, it's really cute. Damn, how did they do that? What is their makeup? Oh, my crowd. I saw it. I was like, bring that up here. How cute. Yeah, it's really cute. Damn, how did they do that? What is her makeup? Oh, my God. I love that. Okay.

Blonde Sandal 4MJ. Cute. Who's it from? Ed Smacked 222. Ed Smacked? I love it. Yeah, because the person is like Smack Sarah. Sarah Smack.

Sarah Smack. But on Instagram, it's Smacked 222. Love it. Thank you for that. It's so cute. that it's so cool people are talented so many talented people i can't even do you want to give a shout out to your shirt your amazon shirt today i was i was working hard to finding trying to figure out the joke about my shirt but i couldn't just now you're working harder earlier like he would ask me and i'd be like oh it's from the rainforest or something. Okay. Okay.

Well, you didn't use it, so I guess that's good. You said no, not that joke. The rainforest. Okay. The Amazon. It's giving white lotus again. I love it. Yeah.

I mean, they're all, I think it's all the same, but this is the dragon. So that's Elvis. You're the dragon. Love it. Yeah. I think you look great you look like walton goggins oh next time next time i'll wear the goggles we have them upstairs mouth warm everyone loves those goggles they're a hit smash um well speaking of hot girls who like you though i just have to give i had to give a shout out to Cat's Eye because their promo campaign for the new song is all about mukbanging. And I feel like a mukbang collab needs to happen between you and – I knew something was happening.

I got a bunch of tweets being like, post the Cat's Eye photo. They finally showed their hair. They finally debuted. I loved mine. I did want to post it, but I was like, oh, I don't know if I need to get approval because there's like – we took so many photos. There's probably like 20 photos of us on the thing. But like sometimes one's eyes close.

Sometimes – and I was trying to look at everyone's face to make sure everyone looks good. And I'm like, I don't know if I'm supposed to get approval of these. They all look fierce. They look so good. But I just didn't know. Oh, my God. So what is the song called? It's called Gnarly.

And what does the mukbang promo have to do with it? It's kind of food themed, the music video. Like there's a lot of eating scenes randomly it's very fierce the music video is very fierce the song is a little controversial because the lyrics are very like campy so some people don't like the lyrics what's the controversial lyric um this one i will say like maybe we do an edit but it's like really oh even you what was this this one line meme first have, the beginning is, Boba Tea, gnarly.

Tesla, gnarly. Fried chicken, gnarly. Gnarly is good or bad? Good. It's like complimentary. I thought if someone smelled gnarly, they smelled bad. It's like sickening. It's like, you know.

Oh, they said Tesla. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is a version where they say robotics instead of Tesla, so I think we got to run with that one. That's the clean version. You know what? We took out a Tesla joke in the Broadway show, yeah. There is a version where they say robotics instead of Tesla. So I think we got to run with that one. That's the clean version. You know what? We took out a Tesla joke in the Broadway show, too. There was something like, what's next?

A gay Tesla robot? And then how about we just say gay robots? Yeah. Okay. Very cat's eye. Yeah. They should probably eliminate the Tesla part for sure. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Did you contact them and tell them? Well, you're oomphies with Manon. Oh, yeah. But I feel like not my place. You're like a producer. You're coming from the journalistic standpoint for me to say something's probably like actually i wouldn't say that if i were you that's crazy maybe they're getting sponsored i don't think they are i think

like because they didn't write the song or anything the song was like you know given to them but that is a weird shout out though yeah so i think maybe just edit that line but they look so good in the music video i think that's where you probably saw them because they filmed that whole thing. And like it was like a studio kind of thing. So yeah. You probably saw them when they were working on that. But they look so good. So the hair is revealed.

So now I can post. Yes. Hair is revealed. The looks are revealed. They don't look too dramatically different. I don't know why. Because I was like, oh my God, they must have completely different. Like Megan. They're like no reveal. Megan um orange like vitamin c kind of hair before now it's like darker

okay but other than that they all kind of look not too drastically different but they were adamant about it so i was like don't worry girl that's why i think i can post it now because like it was able to take the photo so i'm sure yeah i'm sure i can post it. I'm going to post it today. What I saw about it was this. Jimmy, add it down if needed. Yes. The people are comparing it to this. The Cody Ko... What?

People are comparing Gnarly to the Cody Ko spoof song. What was he spoofing? What was he spoofing? What was that song? That's the first time I heard it. Cody Ko jump scare though, always. Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Please warn us next time. That's how I learned about the new song. That's scary. Oh my gosh.

What was that song? Knock It Off. Cody Ko featuring Noelle Miller. You know he thought he aged. He's probably like we're so funny. We're so funny. Honestly, yeah. I hate guys like that. I'm sorry. Iikes oh yeah sorry moses i know i was like okay i dislike question do we hate serial killers or no i was thinking with joe goldberg i was like do we know because it's always the same when you say that you know they always find the most extreme personality there is yeah like you have to hate him i'm like i don't hate anyone it's not he's

a hateful person okay so you know what i mean not, he's a hateful person. Okay. So you know what I mean? Like, yeah, he's a hateful person. I'm going to take him to court, put him in jail forever, but I'm not going to be a hateful person. The high, you take the high road. I do. I'm just, why do I need to be a hateful person?

I kind of see, you know, the, I see, I know from like going to Catholic school and like, you know, religion classes, you know religion classes you know that is kind of the lesson I see it but in practice I'm like I can't I really I don't know if I can do it you know that's what I'm saying I don't want to get back in this cycle this vortex we got into last time

but even like you can hate somebody and it doesn't mean you hate everybody just because I hate this one person doesn't mean I hate my daughter like that's the craziest thing I've ever heard my reaction the first time I heard it was extreme, too. And then it takes time until you... It's not extreme. It's just common knowledge.

No, it is. It is extreme because nobody wants to think of them as a hateful person. Well, I'm not a hateful person. I just hate some people. I'm good at other times. I'm great, though. Not hateful. Yeah, hate-ish.

Hate-ish. That should be good. Like, those shows like Black-ish. There was another one, too. Hate-ish. Young-ish. Young-ish. Grown-ish. Grown-ish. Grown-ish. Yes, I could be hate-ish hate-ish that should be good like those shows like Black-ish there was another one too hate-ish young-ish grown-ish grown-ish grown-ish

yes I could be hate-ish that is so funny starring Trish I love it other hot girls that like me did you see

Cutie Cinderella tweeted me yes I was so excited does she actually make cakes yeah she's a really good baker like she bakes beautiful cakes and cupcakes she literally like

bought I think it was like a restaurant or something like that was no longer in use like she bakes beautiful cakes and cupcakes she literally like bought um i think it was like a restaurant or something like that was um no longer in use like she bought it so she could film like her cooking and baking stuff there and she has like baking series that she does on twitch yeah she's really really good like i don't know what the flavors are but like they're really ornate like the three layers she does like fondant stuff i think she just made cupcakes that were like all flowers and like roses and stuff is she an artist like she's doing all the decorations that's what was so crazy she's like oh does alvis need a cake for her birthday i was

like yeah like and i was like actually yeah do you you do this that's so random because like it's so random because like an influencer like they'd be like if i worked on cars or something part-time like oh do you want me to like fix your car for you it's like well you do i don't know huh there are dead talks you do oh or trish talks okay yes i did fix cars in that one but it'd be weird to like hire me to like fix your car because it's like well i also do social media but i mean if that's what she does i will for sure i know props her because she is very busy she's always doing something you were telling me like she's like three podcasts and stuff and I'm just like, oh, okay. Love that she's taking on baking stuff

too. I would be so excited, yes. We need a Lilo and Stitch cake. I'm excited to see what she comes up with. I really can't imagine. Okay, I'm going to DM her back. Yeah, you have to. I never get DMs on Twitter. If it is you or Moses, those are the only two people I DM myself. I never see a Twitter DM either.

Well, I see them. I just never get them. So if I see one, you know, the little one pops up in the box, I'm like, oh, who's DMing me on Twitter? And so it was QT Cinderella. Love. That's mage. Yeah.

A lot of you. The connections just keep connecting. Love. Love, QT. Have you seen this new debate that keeps going viral? I feel like you probably have missed it, but there's this whole thing about how many men would it take to beat a gorilla? Have you seen – Moses has seen it. To beat a gorilla?

Yeah, to fight a gorilla and win. No. Do you even care? No, but I saw a t-shirt recently of someone's like, I'm not a gorilla, but I beat off 100 men a day or something. Did you see that one? I was like, what what is this shirt i'm seeing it pop up that's i'm really contemplating that shirt okay i'm trying to like visualize i'm not a gorilla but i beat off men something like that i love the first one you said okay i don't know what it was or something i don't i okay work anyway so what this one? Who asked the question and why do people want to know? Well, I think I saw it become bigger when Mr. Beast also like chimed in and he kind of wants to.

Put a hundred men. Yeah. To fight off a gorilla. Oh, to fight off a gorilla. Yes. How many men does it take to fight off a gorilla? Like I saw an AI image that was like a big gorilla and surrounded by a hundred men. Yes, I've seen that.

Oh, so it's a hundred men is the answer. No, do you think it's possible that a hundred men can actually overtake a gorilla? Probably. I would think so. How much are gorillas? We're talking about King Kong? Are they that big? It's a zoo.

I think a hundred people could probably take a gorilla. I think a gorilla would take some of them out. Right? Because there's no way. But a hundred is just unfair, though. Like, a hundred versus one gorilla. Yeah, no, that's actually not fair. But they're, I mean, they're insanely strong. Yeah. Like, it's not, I don't think they can.

Without tools. Without any tools, any, just bare hands. You don't think you can hold them down? No. How much do gorillas weigh? Because the reality is, like, a hundred men, you can't fit a hundred men. You know what I mean? Only maybe 10 at a time can actually be touching the gorilla. No, but you could like hold them back or support them or... I can weigh up to 450 pounds.

Oh, 100 men could easily take 450 pound gorilla. They're all muscle. I mean, they can literally rip you apart. Really? They've ripped humans apart before. Is that real or is that probably Yeah. They for sure have killed I mean smaller chimpanzees have done that.

Yeah. I don't think a hundred men with bare hands, no tools can do that. Where do they live? The gorillas. Jungles. But somewhere in zoos, huh? Yeah, definitely. I mean, aren't they scared to like go into there and feed them?

Like I'd be scared. Do you know what I mean? They take, I mean, they do it through, you know, let's say like kind of like Joe Goldberg. They have like a door. They put the food. They close the door. How do they get them in there? Like Joe Goldberg?

Do they drug them or what? I think so, yeah. I saw a video. Did you see this a while ago where there was one zookeeper who got trapped inside with them? And it was like a whole thing with the zookeepers from the other side of the wall having to distract. Distract the gorilla so the person can get out. Oh, because they're never in there with them? No.

Yeah, they are aggressive. That should be like red flag number one to not have a gorilla at a zoo. Like, what the hell? Even the killer whales They're like up there And swimming with them And stuff like that But if you can't even

Be in there with them So they literally Like drug Allegedly I guess They drug them They will Tranquilize Tranquilize them

They'll be sleeping basically They put them in a container Then take the container To the zoo And where are they Tranquilizing them Out in nature Like they'll capture them

But usually when they're small like a baby. Oh my god. I mean it's awful. Everything about it is. I think a lot of them are probably bred in captivity now. I would hope at least but. Oh my god. Honestly rip those humans apart. I would too.

Could you imagine? It is kind of nature versus nurture. It's like Henry from Joel Goldberg. It's like if that's how you're brought up in this like glass box in this cage like it's like the twin who turned evil it's like all of a sudden the monkey's gonna turn evil because they like evil thrusted upon them you know what i mean that's so sad yeah so i don't know i don't know mr beast joke that he wants to do 100 men versus a gorilla mr beast how are you gonna get the gorilla in there are you gonna also tranquilize the gorilla like what the hell? How can he do that without hurting people and the gorilla?

I'm more concerned about that. And also the fact that he'd even want to try anything like that. Just keep the gorillas in the jungle. We don't need men fighting them. People are going to die. And that sucks, but it's like, let's not do this. It's crazy. A wildlife expert

and primate specialist also weighed in and said um that he does think that a hundred guys could beat a gorilla but that if it was hand-in-hand combat but um there would definitely be some casualties in this hypothetical battle which honestly makes sense it was one guy on twitter and then it got viral yeah so it wasn't like a scientist or anything i thought this was like a big debate people were having it became a big debate because this one tweet got so viral so people were what are people saying some people didn't know if it could just be a hundred or if it would take more than that um but yeah a wildlife expert has weighed in. And to say that a hundred men probably could, but it would take a good chunk of them out.

Like a couple of casual teas would definitely be happening. Yeah. We should be doing Save the Gorillas. How come no one ever does that? There's like Save the Whales, Save This, and no one ever talks about the gorillas. Tea. Tea. Tea.

I don't know. Wasn't there a big movement with Humber? What was his name? The gorilla. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Harambe. Yes. Good job. Remember was his name? The gorilla. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Harambe.

Yes. Good job. Remember when people were like, for Harambe. Do you remember that? And I was like, what happened there? What? Why am I forgetting the Harambe lore?

I think did a kid make its way into the capture, and then they had to shoot. They shot the gorilla. Yeah, you're right. And the gorilla wasn't even hurting the kid i think you're and they were like he didn't have to die a three-year-old boy visiting the zoo climbed under a fence where um he was grabbed and dragged by harambe fearing for the boy's life a zoo worker shot and killed oh god oh my god that whole situation's awful

how did that become south for harambe i don my God. That whole situation is awful. How did that become Harambe? I don't know. Google that. This is kind of like you know, Connie. Connie. Like it was in that era where things became a big meme. It was kind of the only meme and everyone took

it to every possible direction. That's actually sad. That whole story is kind of sad. You saved a child from going under they climbed under a fence to the elephants and Moses That's actually sad. That whole story is kind of sad. You saved a child from going under, they climbed under a fence to the elephants. Moses saved a small child. Oh my God. At the zoo, it was insane. It was like this weird situation

where this kid, and this kid was like determined to get to the elephants. And I think it was a girl. It was a girl? And she was like under the fence and I managed to just grab her shoe, like the end of her shoe under the fence before she made an escape for it. And I was just like, what the hell is going on here right now?

Where are the parents? Yeah. And her leg almost got out of the shoe. And luckily, I think then the parents showed up and we pulled the kid out. It's so crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. i was like nervous

because i was like i was like i don't know like what what do you do in that situation right because it's also like someone else's kid i'm like what if you're just like i guess you have to save them you kind of have to yeah like what if the parents like don't yank my kid's leg but don't let her get in the elephant it was already inside yeah it wasn't even like she's looking at the fence i'm like don't do that. She was like inside. We sat from across. We were kind of a crossway and Moses ran really fast. Like I ran and because I don't even know how I noticed it happening. But ran and I mean, if in that case with a gorilla, that would have saved that life.

You know, that's true. That's true. I guess you have to. Yeah. At least elephants are a little bit less. Yeah, they're very humane. Yes. Yeah.

I'm like, I'm trying to remember the specific context of this tweet. But God, my mind consumes way too much like media and that like, I don't know where the origins are. But I saw this one video and it was like an elephant foot hovering over like a human's bare foot. And it was the point was like, look how like aware and smart elephants are. But then there was um oh my god and hundreds and hundreds of years ago because the photo was black and white and

like bad quality so i'm assuming it was a while ago they had a they hanged an elephant that like um like pursued and killed someone and they were like well that elephant just knew that she was evil that's why that it killed her but they hang. Yeah, they hanged them with like a crane or something. This elephant was like, yeah, hanged. Why? Because it killed, pursued. But why did they take that route? True, of all the ways. They're trying to humiliate him or what?

Like, that's so weird. I guess it's a message. Oh my God. Is that real? Was that a real photo? Elephants are amazing. Like they can paint, you and they and they recognize you know people and it's true there was one person that abused elephants in a circus and one of

them retaliated against that one person and if somebody dies they'll they'll walk a thousand miles they know and they'll walk a thousand miles to like almost like attend a funeral and oh my gosh and the way they protect their babies i mean they're amazing so this it is real this elephant her name was mary r.i.p mary they named her murderous mary which seems very that seems very uncalled for she stepped on her trainer's head because that trainer um yeah was hurting her and was unqualified well period yeah like this abusive trainer she was like i'm gonna take you out and then then they freaking hanged her from a crane that is so sad and so dramatic you also don't need to be doing all that i'm saying that is so odd and so weird i always think too like how do you when you come to earth get chosen to be a gorilla or

human do you know what I mean? Like, their souls, they're smart. Like you said, they have brains. It's like, okay, so what stopped you from being a gorilla versus a human? I guess just fate. I guess just fate. What does that mean? I don't know if there's a scientific explanation for that.

Do you ever think about that? Or like, why is that being a gorilla? Like, why did that soul and brain go to the gorilla i think it's just fate so maybe we another question for the vet whenever the hot guy comes yeah i would love for you to ask the hot guy at any point buddhism buddhism like they say there's levels you know you start from the like you'll be a worm and then you'll be like you it's almost like the evolutionary the gorilla seems above us if they're so strong and smart yeah i mean being a dolphin is probably an incredible experience or a whale or that's so interesting and it's like do you believe in reincarnation do we come back as different beings different creatures absolutely the worst would be an ant yeah you're just every

day fearing for your life unless you're the queen ants what happens then Then everyone kind of like is the one that brings you the crumbs and stuff. So you don't have to really risk your life or whatever. Ant carry crumbs. You're just having babies all day. Oh, yeah. You could be that. I'd love it. I'd be a queen ant all day long.

Bring me those crumbs. Bring me the babies. I'd love it. Remember there was a – wasn't there Ants World or something at Disneyland where there was giant ants? A Bugs Life World? Oh, yeah. What happened to that? They turned it into the Marvel

Avengers stuff. That's what they replaced it with? I hate it. It was such a cute land. It was like these giant ants on top of your like leaves and it was so cute. Oh, I hate that so much. As much as I love those giant chicken sandwiches I still love that one.

Damn, I do love those. Oh, Ant-Man is there now. Oh, yeah, T. I guess the cafe is Ant-Man themed. Oh, damn, I do like that giant chicken sandwich, though. That sounds so good right now. Oh, maybe we could do a cooking video where we try to make that giant chicken sandwich. It has to be kind of easy. You have to be in front of a really giant piece of chicken.

Because all the chicken fillets are so small. They're like this big. Yeah. How do they get a giant chicken that size? It's pretty thin, so they must pound it. They pound that thing. Well, we pound it too and I would never get it that big because Moses makes pretty good schnitzel. Like he could make that but it just wouldn't be that big because – I would love to interview a Disneyland chef.

Do you think they do interviews? I don't think they let them. I know. I feel like it's under lock and key all the secret recipes. Like gatekeep all day long. Yeah. I also have a weird craving of going to Universal, which sounds crazy, but they're doing fan nights right now.

Have you seen this? I saw a commercial for that. Yeah. Where did you see a commercial? On TV? No. Randomly. This lore is kind of insane.

But one influencer who was in one of the Joey Graceffaa um are they gay or straight whatever one of those videos he's like a fitness model or something anyway but he was cast in the commercial for fan fest and they made him be one of the vikings from how to train your dragon and that's how i saw the commercial and he wasn't even like in the park working he was just like he was just yeah just a model did make Mickey want to go to it? They didn't show what it was. They just showed him walking around in this Viking hat. Oh.

I hadn't seen How to Train Your Dragon at that point when I saw the commercial. When was this? Two weeks ago. I saw How to Train Your Dragon last week. Okay. That was fast. Damn. You're like, after you saw that, you're like, I need to go watch this movie.

It was Darian's idea. Oh, okay. Was that his birthday? Yes, actually. That was his birthday movie. It was Darian's idea. Oh, okay. Was that his birthday? Yes, actually. That was his birthday movie. What did you guys eat? Maggianos. Closing soon. I know.

Save Maggianos. Save the whales. Save the divas. Save Maggianos. Save the clock tower at FanFest. Because they have characters that are dressed up as Doc Brown and Crispin Glover. And they reenact the scenes from Back to the Future. So you go to the back lot. And reenact like the scenes from Back to the Future so you go to the back lot and

obviously that's where they shot Back to the Future so it's all decorated as if it's Back to the Future like you're in the movie and they have actors coming around like even before you go to the back lot there's a woman being like the clock tower like save the clock tower you know whatever so it's like an immersive experience I want to go so bad. Wow that does sound fun. I love a good cosplay like when actors are

like interacting with you, I hate interacting with those people, but I love seeing it happen. Yeah. Like it feels like you're a part of the movie. I feel like you should go because that's like a thing. I want to go. I just feel like there's,

I never have time and I can't, but I wish. Yeah, I would be down to go. I don't, I am not allowed to have that kind of rollercoaster activity right now though for seven more weeks, but yeah.

Oh my gosh. But hopefully if it's still, if it's still going on no i think it's damn we never even went for universal for the wicked food the wicked cafe we meant to go over christmas break what happened yeah i think we just got busy i know next time we have to make that a priority yes for um wicked for good we will be there when does it come out i don't think they even released the trailer officially yet, but I would assume November again.

I'm assuming. Yeah. We have to make sure we're really on it this time. Yeah. We should honestly get the invite from Universal. They invite all these freaking people for their little like random like theme park excursions and activations. I'm like, come on now.

Like, you know. I love activations. Where did that come up from? Where did that concept come from? I love the idea of people just like setting up fun things for people to try to promote. We had, I guess I can say, I don't know if I can say it. Maybe I can't. I don't know.

It's probably fine. It came to me unsolicited in an email, so I probably can say it right. Speaking of activation, there's a new Megan movie coming out. Oh, yeah. You know, it's like a doll. Yeah, of course. It's a horror doll or something. You've seen it?

The gays love Megan Trisha. Oh, so. You should probably interview the doll or something because she's it the gays love megan trisha you should probably interview the doll or something because that's what it was they were trying to have me interview megan and they were like but we need to know if you want to ask her like certain questions ahead of time so we can like program her and i was just like what does that mean like i was like i mean i was like no that's weird but i thought she possessed a little possessed doll in my house? No, she is a diva. Megan is a diva. Gays love Megan. She dances.

She loves pop music. She loves chaperone, weirdly. But she is so fierce. And Megan, yeah, Megan Chu is coming out pretty soon. And it's like even gayer than the first one. Really? Full gay. She's full diva.

She's like superhero diva. She became like the antihero. She was a villain in the first megan but now she is saving the day she's fierce she's going up against another femme fatale evil girl robot and um there's good music there's good dances oh you love megan i love gays love megan why do i not know this they even they made megan too bigger and gayer like literally on purpose there's a gay scene there's like a scene where like there, like, a scene where, like, there's, like,

a Megan Stan that, like, wants to free Megan because she was incarcerated and Megan won, whatever. And they go, Megan is a mother! Like, and it's, like,

this gay guy being like, no, she's Sophia, she is a mother. And I'm like, they know. You should have been that role. That was good. I should have been.

That was believable. Okay, say yes to Interview Megan if Oscar can be in Megan 3. In Megan 3, yes. But that's what I was thinking. I was like, this seems like a paid advertisement or something. Like, they have, like, the Megan doll here. I'd be like, when are we giving a whole paid promo?

Unpaid promo. It would be an unpaid promo. And then they're like, what? And then, like, the other option was, like, if you don't want the Megan doll, they're like, we have, like, IRL Megans that show up. Like, a group of Megans that would show up. And I'm like, well, what does that mean? Yeah, they are just actors.

They have them at Universal. They have like little Megans and they dance and run around with knives and stuff. They could do a little TikTok with you or something. Yeah. The Megans are fierce. I think you need that doll. It would be everything. That's not scary.

Protect the dolls and protect Megan as well. Oh, that's true. I guess I can't wear this without protecting all the dolls, including Megan. Exactly, all dolls. All right, well, maybe I'll think about it. this without protecting all the dolls, including Megan. Exactly. All dolls. All right. Well, maybe I'll think about it. It was just so random. You should.

And it came from the right hat and stuff like that because you always are like, is this real? And then you're like, okay. That is so fierce. Okay. Megan interview coming soon. Yeah. Honestly, T, I know the gays in the comments are going to be all about it because gays

love Megan. But if she's possessed, we are possessed. She's not possessed. What is she? She's technology. She's just like, yeah, she's like AI. So why is she evil? Because her programming, spoiler alert for Megan One, but her programming like was to

protect Katie, this like little girl, like protect her at all costs. So anyone who like remotely threatens her or like is just mean to her, she's like programmed to the extreme to like, you know, take them out to protect her. Okay. I like that better to protect her okay um so yeah she's not like possessed no no devil it's just like yeah done and done technology yeah i'm glad we cleared that up because that's that's is big yeah i know i was here i was judging i was like i don't want a little possessed doll i think you're thinking of annabelle no relation to annabelle she's possessed yeah okay and chucky yeah there's no possession here it's just technology megan even trolls chucky she's like i'm more iconic than you'll ever be chucky

oh yeah she's on twitter she's on twitter being messy that's why i love megan that's why everyone loves megan she's cute she has wigs and like the girl who played the doll is like a dancer so like she everyone was impressed because the choreography was so good and it's a person that plays her there's like a girl. And I guess they, I think they have her in a mask or something. Or they animate her, Megan's, like the doll's face over her. But it's like her doing the body and like all the movements. And then they put like the robot's face over her. Do you think Deadpool stole those nachos?

I think Deadpool was first. With the dancing? Bye, bye, bye? Oh, actually, you're right. Bye, bye, bye was after Megan. Maybe. They're like, oh, we're going to also make this character dance. Honestly, yeah, because the dance sequence from Megan is what, like, really made it become a thing.

Is it scary? It's PG-13. There's no, like, gore or anything. It's more, like, campy and not a lot of, like, any of the kills are, like, offscreen and, like, implied. It's not, like, in your face. Yeah. All right. Maybe.

I love it. Shout out Megan. You see the doll? Yeah. I'm looking at it now. I know what you mean. Like what your fears were. It's scary a little bit.

But I guess if she's a diva and the gays love, then we love. Take it into consideration. Gays, we got to demand it. We got to get Megan on here. I was so excited. It's like guest appearance for Josh Trish. I was like, oh my God, who is this? From Universal.

I was like, who could it be? No, that's exactly it. Because I was literally immediately thinking Wicked. But it's a good start. You know, he starts with them and then move to the real people. That's true. We'll start with the doll. You'll be in.

Yeah, you'll be in. I'll email back to him. Yes, please do. I wouldn't delete it. Usually I see it and I'm like, oh, okay. Have you seen this TikToker controversy about – she's a wellness TikToker, Janelle Roehner. You know her?

Oh, my God. My mom is obsessed with this story. This does give me Lena vibes. This does give me Lena. The whole weekend I got to hear about Janelle. Every time she mentioned her Janelle, I was like, who is Janelle? What are we talking about? Because she kept posting the TikToks throughout the weekend.

Oh, she just posted a new one, rebuttaled to everyone. I'm like, what is happening? I love that Lena was on this feed. I'm very – yes. Oh, she just posted a new one, rebuttaled to everyone. I'm like, what is happening? I love that letter was on this sheet. I'm very, yes. Oh, she'll be so sad. She missed this hot topic. This is her hottest topic. She is a TikTok wellness influencer, and she faced backlash for admitting to using GLP-1s for weight loss, even though she sells $200 weight loss courses.

Which is crazy. That's kind of crazy. For a weight loss, even though she sells $200 weight loss courses. Which is crazy. That's kind of crazy. I feel like, yeah, because she admitted to it just recently. Yes. Like this past weekend. And she's been selling those weight loss courses. I followed her since like the pandemic.

You probably have seen her. Yes. Okay. She was the nurse that always ate the like cream cheese on peppers. Like she was just like obsessed with keto. She'd always have like a watch monitoring like what she eats, macros. Like she was definitely that person for so long. So I just always know her as being like a little obsessive about her weight and what she eats and stuff. So I didn't think anything of it. But yeah, I wonder why she admitted to it. She admitted to using GLP-1s over the weekend. Yeah, she posted a video, a YouTube video, and she said that she uses GLP-1s as the weekend. Yeah, she posted a video, a YouTube video, and she said that she

uses GLP-1s as a tool to help her lose weight. She said, over the last year, I've decided to make some new choices in my health. I started working with a doctor and we did decide to add a GLP-1 to my plan. And that she also had previously tried keto macros and workouts. But she said, GLP-1s are not magic. They don't change your lifestyle overnight. It's just a tool to help. I still had to show up, show up for my meals, track my macros, drink my water, go on walks, do my workouts. Everything I already teach and believe in, it just helped me regain a sense of control.

And it's something that I don't want to be ashamed of. What's a macro? It's a type of – I i'm gonna explain it really terribly but it's a type of calorie or whatever and you're supposed to like monitor how much of those that you eat and that's supposed to be the key to like weight loss i mean she said she she took it to regain control but it's like she's always been very obsessed with calories and all this stuff that she talks about like i've followed her literally for like five years and i feel like she's like always been obsessed with it so like what did she need it for maybe it's how i mean this is just like benefit of the doubt

i guess or my experience with glp1 so i guess like yeah you can still like monitor it but you still kind of have the um especially if it sounds like she is like obsessed then you have like the food noise maybe i hear that term a lot yeah food noise it's kind of this like in the back of your mind you're thinking yeah food food food like oh what's for lunch oh what's for doesn't everyone think that surprisingly no what i know you don't think about what you're eating i do that's why i'm on glp ones but even glp ones are not canceling out your food noise um i had to increase my dosage actually because it's still not really it it kind of is the thing where like when i start craving something like i'll think i'm craving something and i'll be so excited to eat and then i like eat a little bit of it i'm like damn i really can't even

fathom eating more if that makes the glp ones make you feel yes yes um because there were some oh like we had canes two two days ago or whatever. And like I was so excited for it. And I always – Cane's I always get like the big – whatever, the big boy meal is. The one where you get extra tenders. It's like only four strips. It's not even that much. And it's really expensive but whatever.

The big boy meal. But I could only eat like two and a half tenders. And I was like I really can't even fathom eating more. Did it taste good? Yeah, it still tasted the same but I was just so full. That's crazy. and a half tenders and i was like i really can't even fathom eating more so it tastes good yeah still tasted the same but i was just so full um that's crazy so so it actually treats your stomach or just like makes you feel full i think it make it makes you it gives the sensation of that your stomach feeling like really really tight and full pretty early on is from my experience but

yeah so she just wanted that feeling more i guess because even if you're like when you're obsessed with it and you're still tracking it whatever it's still like hard you know it's still hard like it you don't really have that freedom of like oh my god i can't just like eat whatever blah blah blah granted i'm not selling people a weight loss plan so yeah that's i think that's always the issue. I think it's when people aren't honest about it. And it's like, it's fine if you don't want to be honest or don't want to disclose it.

I get that part. But if like your brand and this girl's brand is literally selling weight loss, like I said, I've followed her for so long. Like it's, yeah, you should disclose that right away. Yeah. Be like, these are my results with a GLP-1 too. Yeah.

And I think obviously, I think she started doing the plan before she started GLP-1. She made. And I think obviously – I think she started doing the plan before she started GLP-1. She made it seem like she started it recent-ish. But still, I think the second you're like even thinking about it, you got to be – Put the disclaimer on there. If you're like – if that's your whole thing. If you're selling the plan and people are buying this.

Are people not happy? She got a lot of backlash. On TikTok or YouTube? Because I just love how on TikTok she goes, people are asking if I did GLP-1s. Well, the truth is you have to go to my youtube channel it's like all right i'm just gonna ever it's on her instagram it's on her tiktok it's on her youtube it is kind of everywhere yeah people are not i think people just want people to be honest especially if you're selling weight loss or body positivity like i think people just want it's i think that's not the main reason

kardashians get so much hate it's because like just be honest you got work. And don't just say like it's just diet exercise. Of course that. Of course you have to do that. Of course you do. But I'm just saying like you have to show with the assistance of. You know, it's wild to me that people don't disclose that. Yeah. And like one of the comments said, there isn't shame in taking GLP.

One, the shame is when you fool your audience into thinking they can look like you if they eat and exercise like you do so that's disappointing so that really is kind of encapsulates the whole thing yeah especially an influencer especially these type of influencers like this woman is like you know she's a regular person but she has like followers so it's like when that's you're only famous and rich because or making money i should say because of your followers and you're not authentic with them i'm like that's that's so shitty yeah and to her, though, she did say she will do a refund for anybody who bought a class in the last 11 months. So I guess in the period of her doing GLP-1s. So if you bought the class.

I don't know if that's giving her credit. It's like you scam people. It's at least something, I guess, right? Like she's at least refunding people. No. She should have been honest from the get oh I agree

but yeah now those people not only because it's not only did you scam them but they had 11 months of being like wait why don't I

look like this true that is true it's because we're taking GLP-1s okay like so I hate that part of it so I mean doing the macro stuff

does help but obviously GLP-1s is like a big huge of course look at everyone getting scammed even before she started taking it she wasn't getting the

results she wanted true yeah true true so she was selling something that didn't give her the results she wanted so she went to something else an extreme and then so it's yeah no it's i hate it because i follow her for a while i still think we're umphies maybe maybe not after this but i think it's i yeah i think that's's, like, so – that's so – especially, like, people who, like, literally gave you, like, this, like, career. Yeah. Yeah. For being – you know, because everybody, like, wants to be influencers because they make money. And when you're just, like, a regular person that does something like – like, this is your whole brand and then you just ruin that.

You, like, tarnish it. Yeah. It sucks. That's why I've been very transparent. When I first got skinny adderall helped me a ton did you say it when you got skinny yeah when everyone i think even when you came and you asked i was like well i was on i started adderall i mean again yeah yeah when i was like bobblehead um because yeah i mean obviously i didn't have a trainer and i was

like working out and stuff but like that Adderall like for someone who hasn't um was undiagnosed ADHD for like how old was I like 25 years and all of a sudden I started Adderall it was a super small dosage it was 10 but like it made my metabolism like go so fast so that's great that is wild so anytime anyone asked I was like I don't know um and then even when I started faux zempic, I was like, do you hope you won? So I feel like you got a dress. Yeah, you were like day one. Yeah.

You were like, this is what I'm doing. Yeah. So I think you just got to be like upfront. For sure. And then if people hate on you for being upfront about it, then that's like their problem. It's not yours. Yeah. At least you're not like lying or being authentic.

For sure. For sure. If I ever – I would almost take it just for social media. I'd be like, oh, first day on Ozempic or whatever. It would give you content whenever you need it. I know. I'm so torn with it. Ultimately, I'm just like, I don't know.

Maybe not. I don't know. You know I'm torn. Who knows? But you know I'll be the first to say it for sure. Especially if I start getting – oh, my gosh. You might not lose 100 pounds. I'm like, I don't know.

I've just been working out, you guys. Diet and exercise. And you did – if they do your gym and they tidy it up, you can just always say – although I still have those vivid memories of your Instagram story when you were just on that elliptical. And you would show the time. And it would be like damn near three hours. Three hours. You cannot get this woman off.

But I wasn't – I wasn't like losing weight. I was kind of maintaining weight. I wasn't losing weight. I was there for three hours. And I really was there for three hours. And I just – it is hard. It's hard to lose weight. It is, yeah.

That's why I don't knock a Manjaro if it's going to help you boost it up. Because I was doing that. I loved it. Oh my God. That was fun. We would watch like Nine Day Fiance for three hours. I'd just be down there so long. Yeah.

I felt good after it. I need to get back to it. Those endorphins. Those endorphins do the trick. I'm going to work out again. We're putting that into our schedule a daily walk we used to do it a lot when we first met we used to walk on the beach together and just you used to walk all the time you were a walkaholic yeah walking i mean for me walking is the way

the way of life is there more to it being of losing weight being healthy all the stuff you talk about you were walking to lose weight no it's everything it's strength it's your back it's your core it's everything it's just healthy to walk that you're like walking but i was maintaining i mean it was helping and maintaining because i could eat and gain when i first met you to say you forget to eat you're like i forgot to eat i was like what does that mean you forgot to eat you work and run around and that's crazy good thing when you work from home it's easier to kind of like okay order food but when you're going from place to place and like i don't want to stop over there i don't want to take an hour now in traffic you know it's so you can very easily get to a point where like oh man it's four o'clock and am i getting dinner now or am i so yeah i can't relate to that forget to eat well since you're wearing a protect the doll shirt yes um did you see the um response from

john lithgow who is um in the new harry potter. He responded to the backlash that he got for joining the Harry Potter reboot. Is this the boomer? Yes, he is quite old. Is he from like Third Rock from the Sun or something? Or is that someone else? He was in Conclave. What is Conclave?

The Pope movie about electing the Pope. So he's old. Yes, he is old. I'm already scared. That's why people kept saying the name for our baby, Conclave. Oh, yeah, the movie. Okay, that's why. No, not name for our baby, Conclave. Oh, yeah, the movie. Okay, that's why. No, not Conclave.

Oh, my God. Okay, what did he have to say? I'm scared. Well, there was even, like, an open letter from, like, fans of his for asking him to, like, not take on this role. Who's he playing? I believe he's Dumbledore. Okay. Yeah. playing i believe he's dumbledore okay yeah um and he said of course it was a big decision because

it's probably the last major role i'll play because it's an eight-year commitment so and he's old so how old is he let me see his age damn he's like this is it for me this is my he don't care he's like it's eight years you guys guys. That's it. He's 79. So, I mean, yeah. Okay. Damn. He'll be like what? He'll be eight, seven. Eight, seven?

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Okay. That's sad. Eight years? For like what? Oh, is that how long? What?

Because it'll be eight seasons and a season a year. Is it just a remake? It's going to be a Max or HBO Max, whatever, series instead of a movie. So a series for each book. And I'm assuming, I guess, for the last book, two seasons. And he said that he received an open letter. It was called an open letter to John Lithgow. Please walk away from Harry Potter.

And he was even sent this letter by a very good friend of his who is a mother of a trans child. And his response to it was, why is this a factor at all? I wonder how J.K. Rowling has absorbed it. I suppose at a certain point I'll meet her and I'm curious to talk to her. And he asked, he got asked at the backlash, made him reconsider the role. And he said, oh, heavens, no. Oh. So his first question was, why is this a factor?

What does that mean? Like, why do people even care that? Oh, my God. Yeah. Like, why should this, like, influence the series? Why should the series not happen just because J.K. Rowling is transphobic, I guess? Very actively, currently. Yeah, that's the thing, too.

It's not even just, like, transphobia. It's that Very actively, currently. Yeah, that's the thing too. It's not even just like transphobia. It's like she's succeeding in like ruining. Getting more money to like. Fund other legislation that could like put trans lives at risk. Yeah. Yeah. It's like literally harming people, putting people's lives in danger. So that's probably why people care.

That's, I hate to say it, but sometimes it's like when the older generation leaves us. It's almost like – it's like shedding skin. It's like, you know what? New – okay, finally a new can come. Because it's like they just won't get it. You're like – you could explain it to this guy, but he's just not going to get it obviously. And it's just like – it's just sad. And honestly, just kind of let them go I guess.

Yeah. It's like crazy though that a friend of yours is giving you this, like, sending you this letter. And you know that your friend has a trans child. And there's no part of you that can empathize and be like, hmm, is the check that good? I mean, obviously, the money is going to be good, yes. But, like, how desperately do you need it? And especially if you feel like you're going to be dead in eight years, then what's the point? Yeah, you don't need it.

Yeah. And he's been on big TV shows. John Lith the go has definitely been on like third rock from the sun and like big broadway shows like he's definitely regardless yeah if like someone close to you sent that to you and once you and if you got like an open letter wouldn't you be like maybe i should look into this because again i've been ignorant to stuff but it's like sometimes when you're like the whole like internet's crashing down on you like maybe something is wrong with my way of thinking yeah it's harmful it's dangerous and the fact that he's like even that was his like why did you make a response how did he make the response did he tweet it what did he do he did an interview

interview with variety oh yeah his pr person was not on top of it i know he needed bill belichick's girlfriend yeah like we are not talking about this yeah where was his person where was his purposes yeah he's an ant? Yeah. He was an handler for sure. These old men, Jason Isaacs too, it's like they need to just get someone on it. You know what I mean? And not to generalize that

for just old people in general, but they just seem a little out of touch, which is fine. We'll probably be out of touch when we're like, you know, 70, but I'll have someone to help correct me,

little Elvis or Malibu. Yeah, but actually we don't use that terminology. Yeah. That's what, period. That's what happens in Tim Allen's new show, Shifting Gears. His

Gen Z grandchildren keep him in line. They're like no we can't say that anymore. It's just so disappointing. I don't understand how Warner Brothers didn't button this up. Like how did you not do anything? Sign some kind of contract to shut her

up. JK Rowling up. I know. Just so you could avoid this like i'm actually surprised it even got like green lit like i just because she's so outspoken and the stuff she's outspoken about especially the time of it all it's just like so odd yeah and then did you see how she shaded pedro pascal because yeah he wore a protect the dolls shirt at the thunderbolts movie premiere in london um and J.K. Rowling shaded him, like pretending to not even know who Pedro Pascal is. I was like, as if he's not in Game of Thrones,

Star Wars, Marvel, The Last of Us. He's literally in every big franchise. Every single thing. Yeah. And he's all over the place. Don't even pretend. What did she say? Like someone tweeted J.K. Rowling making fun of Pedro

and then she chimed in as if like she didn't even know who he was or whatever. I'm like, please. Please! Everyone knows Pedro. I'm so annoyed. It's so annoying. Is he British? Pedro? Yeah. No, he's Chilean. Did he have a British accent in Game of Thrones?

I don't know. I don't even really remember him in Game of Thrones, to be honest. I think they were all British in that show, except for Peter Dinklage. I guess not him. I feel like, yeah. He must have had an accent. Maybe. I don't remember him in it either. It was a smaller role. It wasn't like a huge role, but.

He went to high school with someone famous recently. I just saw. David Harbour. They did theater together or theater class. In Chile? Not Chile. I don't know if he grew up in Chile. Oh, but his background.

Yes. Yeah, he's Chilean. Where did he go to high school? We don't know. Because I saw their yearbook photo and I was like, oh. So that's like, okay. Is David Harbour Chilean? No? I don't think so.

Oh, okay. You know what I love when I meet people at the shows and they'll say, I'm Peruvian. I'm like, oh, that's so cool. And they're like, like Oscar. I was like, oh my God. I love, that's so cute. Yeah, it's always so cool. I always like that.

You're the Peruvian influencer, idol. I'll take it, I yeah yeah who are the famous peruvians out there there's gotta be some right interesting let me see i'm actually curious i feel like there's a lot of peruvian famous cubans but yeah um none that i recognize yeah i know like no one immediately recognizable, like, name-wise. Oh, interesting. That's interesting. Wow, now I gotta make it big to...

You're the Peruvian. Maybe you. I gotta make it for my, uh... You know those sites, like, most famous birthdays and stuff? It'll say, like, the number one, like, top-rated celebrity that's Peruvian. You might be that. Have you ever typed your name in there? Well, I'm not even... When I Google name in there? Well, I'm not even,

when I Google famous Peruvians, I'm not even on the list. Oh, you're not on the list. No, on Google, so. Because sometimes those websites will be like, most famous person with a May 8th birthday. I'm like right under Enrique Iglesias. That's fierce.

But there's other categories too. It's like famous people from Riverside, California. There's always different categories. I wonder if you moved up on famous birthdays. I'm actually going to. No, I'm definitely number three. I think it's Enrique. I wonder if you moved up on famous birthdays. I'm actually going to. No, I'm definitely number three. I think it's Enrique Iglesias. You moved up to number one.

Over, is there like Tekashi69 or something? He's number two. I'm number one? You moved up to number one on famous birthdays. Who's number three? Dallas Mendoza. Oh, okay. Love that.

Enrique's not on the list I don't see him on here maybe he really fell he's definitely made I don't see him on here oh my god David Attenborough is number four

does he play Dumbledore he's a host oh a TV show host Ethan Wacker is number five who is Ethan Wacker it says he's an actor

Oliver Bierman he's a race car driver. Ayo Sky, a wrestler. Desmond Dennis, R&B singer. Stephen Amell, I do know. He's number nine, TV actor. Number 10, Enrique Iglesias, pop singer. He is number 10. He was always number one.

He fell a lot, yeah. You've taken over. Oh my God, number one. And person born and made. That's big. That's huge news. Oh my God, number one person born in May. That's big. That's huge news. Wow, I'm so honored. I love it.

Shout out famous birthdays. Thank you for making it happen. Shout out for, it's May today. So today is May Day, everybody. Happy May to all my Taurus May babies out there. Also to the Gemini May babies because Elvis is one of you. We also applaud you. May's going to be a good month. I feel it.

It's your birthday. Gender reveal. Gay music video. Birthday party. Mother's Day. Tour. Elvis' birthday. Lilo and Stitch. It's going to be so much fun. Club. Vegas. Yes. Not the club. Period. I just looked. Pedro Pascal

went to middle school in Orange County, California. Oh! Wow. Which part in Orange County, California. Oh, wow. Wow. Which part of Orange County? I mean, Orange County is pretty small. Well, there's... Alamitos High School. What is it?

Alamitos? Alamitos. Alamitos. Wow. Okay. I didn't know he was an Orange County kid. Me either. I never thought that.

Okay, Cali boy. I love that. Yeah. He's like, yo. California boys. thought that okay cali boy i love that yeah i love pedro california boys did you see the because you mentioned the gender reveal did you see the lala how do you say her name let me see lala lala pons lala pons gender reveal no you did not see that no what is it i'm just trying to get ideas for hours what did she do oh my gosh so everyone is wearing like raincoats oh my gosh did you see this no twice oh no twice pregnant oh wait what what is this is this? What came out? Was that paint?

Yeah, because they're all like in raincoats of some kind, you know, like, and then there's liquid. So one side is blue, one side is pink. And, um... Is she okay? Was she celebrating? That's so scary. And her partner just ran forward, not even looking back, you know, and she slipped once.

Why did he run forward? Yeah, people get excited and they just jump. I mean, that is a crazy gender reveal. That is wild. I've never seen paint. Why did they do that? I mean, that's so sad. I guess she's okay.

I'm hoping she's okay. That's crazy. She seems to be okay in the rest of her life. Oh, my God. Like, falling when you're pregnant, too, is just like, ooh, so scary. I guess I like the idea. In practicality, no. But I think the idea is kind of –

What's the idea behind it? What are you visualizing? Like, oh, you're in raincoat. Like, you're wearing all white. You have the little coats on. And then you're going to be covered in the color of whatever to represent whatever gender. I guess that in theory – but, yeah, in practicality, then you're slippery. You're sticky.

You're, like, wet and goofy. Yeah, like you can't go hug people. Hair and makeup. All right. Well. You don't want to do that on stage? No. We have other plans for our gender reveal. It's going to be a big one.

I was thinking something small. And then the Greek was like, well, actually, we can do this. I know. I'm excited. I was like, all right. Let's do it. We're just going to bring our little, you know, you pull the string and it does a little. Like last time. That's what I thought. I really did think that that's what we did yeah so

that's wild be safe out there gender reveals really can be dubious I think everyone needs to like chill a little bit start wildfires I think that happened once yes yes oh my gosh be careful out there sparklers are happening wasn't there one um there was another viral gender reveal where, like, something got – it was, like, a cannon or something.

And it got, like, projected out for the gender reveal. But then one of the people's, like, friends or family was sitting front row. And I forget what it was, but it projected and it hit them square in the face. And then it, like, fell backwards. Oh, my God. Because it got, like like pushed out with such force oh gender reveals are kind of dangerous they are dangerous they are a little silly i mean we're doing ours we love a gender reveal because it's exciting whatever but it's like they're kind of

like silly but it's crazy how invested people are in it people with ours are just like obsessed with like why are you having and i was like that's so funny people analyze everything because like i've seen so many that get criticized where you you know, the partner, like he ran to his mom or his mom ran to him instead of going to your partner. I see that a lot. I see when they run to their mom. The mother-in-law or the mother-in-law tries to steal the show. Or they come in to like hug the son. Yeah, it's like it is crazy.

But yeah, I don't know. I mean, they're fun. I guess they're exciting. It is kind of fun to be like, what is it? But I don't know. mean they're fun i guess they're exciting it is kind of fun to be like what is it but i don't know that's funny though how do you see that just on tiktok i mean not funny it's like sad yeah yeah it was one of my hot topics i love your gender reveal hot topics um i wonder how you're gonna feel about this um alex cooper revealed that she wants to turn down an $8 million brand deal. A what?

No, I haven't heard this. What's the context? I know why you missed it. Because it was on Harry Jowsey's podcast. She was on Harry Jowsey's? Oh, it's on her network, right? No. I mean, like, let's.

Okay. I literally had to block Harry Jowsey on Twitter just because he is doing ads now on X or Twitter for his OF. And he like I every like five tweets. It's like something for Jesus and then something for Harry Jowsey. I'm like, OK, Jesus, whatever, I guess. But wait, what do you mean for Jesus? Some random person's like, are you Christian? Like, it's just a random christian

person promoting christianity random okay i feel like christianity is like the least needing of advertisements but he's oh oh and he's promoting it this random twitter person yeah because now just random people on twitter can do like promotions you know so anyway so half my ads are christians the other half is harry javesey and's like these oh my gosh same like two photos of harry javis like lifting his shirt up and like a mirror and it's like should i shave and then like a wink and a link to it i've seen those too really yes i've seen those too because i was like what is this me too i literally had to block him because i'm like i cannot see this anymore i don't give a if you shave or not i don't what your abs like that's what i saw like your belly like what are

we shaving weird who gives up i want to interview someone who is paying for harry jowsey's oaf because i have questions i have a lot of questions why are you doing that do you just have so much money that you're wasting it on harry jowsey like please let me know well i guess i could see why that i could see i mean i guess he is like attractive but he doesn't even show anything because my friend art um had the same manager as him for a while so he's just no but he like will post in the messages like unlock this to see everything and it's like nothing yes i do hate that too so like the original scammer now honestly worse than

everything i've fallen i've fallen victim to that too it's like come on now there has to be like um you know the ftc came in to crack down on like when influencer brand deals were getting crazy. Yeah. There's got to be something to crack down on like this false promises on. Wild West out there on OS. Yeah. It's getting nuts.

But anyway. Is it still the same podcast? What's his podcast called? Boyfriend Material. Oh, so it's the same one still. Same one, yeah. I remember he started just like sitting by himself in front of a grass wall. I think he realized that it was worse than watching paint dry.

Like I think I would rather watch paint dry. So does he have guests now all the time or just Alex? Last time he had Bob the Drag Queen on and now he has Alex Cooper. Wow. Okay. He's getting the bookings. Yes, Booker. Yeah.

I love that. But anyway, Alex Cooper revealed that she once turned down an $8 million brand deal. Harry asked her, what's the most money you've turned down an eight million dollar brand deal um harry asked her what's the most money you've turned down and um area was gagged that she turned it down for that much money but she didn't say what the product or the brand was but she's alex said that she felt uncomfortable putting her face next to it and standing by it and she said that the deliverables were also like a lot like she didn't say what they're asking but she made it seem like it was not just like one post that it was like you know multiple things yeah and um oh she said she's not gonna put on your face next to somebody like a deal must be

something contra i will oh maybe you're right but eight million dollars for a deal and that was like her brand right she always was the sex oh yeah But she said, I think it's important to say no to shit because otherwise you just lose your effing credibility. So that made me think it was something like, I don't know, maybe the new Harry Potter. She's like, I won't promote Harry Potter. That'd be fierce. I would love that for Alex Cooper. Would you turn on $8 million to promote Harry Potter? It depends what the also Alex Cooper

is fine like she's so rich like eight million she's okay but for me that's like life changing money right yeah

and it depends like if the contract like I wouldn't be able to be like in the next episode be like FJK Rowling like she is sick

evil nasty it would definitely put that it would definitely be like you can't talk about disparaging about this person ever you can donate a million to that charity

we talked about earlier like you can you can take it to. Oh my God, that is tough. Like for a normal person that is tough. For Alex Cooper, obviously I feel like

that's a lot easier of a decision. But even for me, like you said, eight million is like life changing. That's literally like, okay. It is a lot.

Oh my God. But okay, for me, I still have a normal job. For you, I don't, how would you still do it? You have a lot of bougie jobs over there, bougie i still have a normal job for you i don't how would you still do a lot of

bougie jobs over there bougie i have a normal control you buy more money in your way bougie though you're in entertainment entertainment is like the cheapest paying of all the industries i gotta tell you for um unless you're Florence Pugh or Zendaya. But for you, if you did an $8 million Brando, Harry Potter, how could you show your face on Just Tristan next week? I don't know. That is tough. You'd have to replace me with Spillstache or something. I don't know.

Oh, really? You would be – I think people would be pissed at me. But, you know, influencing isn't my thing. $8 million. Yeah, I guess I'd have to. I don't know. That's so hard.

That is hard. It depends on what it is. It depends on what it is. Yeah, I want to know now what hers was. Because, yeah, I would say, yeah, if it was, like, a political person I didn't agree with, I don't think I could do it for eight million. Okay, T. I don't think so either.

Because that – I also was thinking, well, Tana said that, like, allegedly – Tana alleges that Trump's campaign was, like, hiring influencers to endorse him or whatever, right? And I was like something like that. I guess if I don't agree politically, I'm like, well, that's something I wouldn't be able to do. Right, right, right. Can't be like an anti-gay campaign all of a sudden. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I would turn $8 million down for – I mean, yeah, you'd have to.

You'd have to. Yeah, for like a political thing. Because we just talked about losing a relationship with your audience and authenticity. Yeah, true. That would turn $8 million down for – I mean, yeah, you'd have to. You'd have to. Yeah, for like a political thing. Because we just talked about losing a relationship with your audience and not this – Yeah, true. That would be like really sad. Oh, my God. They would use that clip again. It's so quick.

I would just peace out. I'm like, okay, bye, guys. But, you know. Would you? Yeah. For $8 million? Yeah. Because I don't – I don't even know how I would make – how many years it would take

me to make $8 million. So if I had to do like – But what if it ran out and then you couldn't come back? Well, I would still have my normal job. You would keep ET? Yeah. You'd take $8 million and keep ET? Yeah.

Well, then it's not life-changing because you're still working at ET. Well, it's the backup. You know I love a backup plan. Oh, my God. That's so funny. Or like Darian will be an architect or something. So I guess I have my $8 million. Darian can build things, design design buildings i don't know but so you'll take it

for the harry potter pro it depends on what it is and i have to read the fine print and the contract yeah but i don't know just because eight million is so much but for alex cooper yeah she just had like 160 million dollar deals like that's fine she can turn it down a little odd touch to be like i turned on eight million dollars like i guess it's shocking and it's crazy. I guess it's like me with like music videos. She needed to give Harry Jowsey a headline. She's like, damn, what can I do for my client here? What did he say?

Was there a follow up? He was just kind of gagged by it. There really was not much follow up. He just asked, are you effing serious? How did she? She didn't say anything more. That was a conversation. No details.

You know, that's how the Unwell Network kind of does things. It's like, you know. Do a follow-up. Be like, tell us. Give us a hint. You know, something. He's like, all right, move on. I'm not a follow-up kind of journalist.

Did he have questions prepared? I don't think. Actually, to his credit, I did only see an article about this and then went to the Boyfriend Material Instagram and found that one clip okay yeah and that's as far as i got into it do you prefer podcasts where people are like they have questions ready to go or do you like a conversation where they're just talking it doesn't even have to be about them i think it's very circumstantial and situational like some people are very entertaining like there's some like streamers for example like

it's not like i watch shout out jenna x penn it's not like i watch jenna x penn she doesn't have things planned but she's like naturally just very entertaining right but there's some where it's like you really need to have some kind of organization because like your thoughts are all over the place and you're also not that entertaining so even you just kind of riffing isn't tea you know so it kind of has to be situational based on who is in front of the mic because you like to have something prepared because for our patreon today you're like let's ask some questions for our mukbang where as opposed to me i'm like it's a mukbang i loved it we're doing it i think that's a good idea but it's so

interesting you're always like that because even another time too you're like oh i like to have something to talk about while we do the mukbang the mukbang is the video but i get what you're saying though like i that's why I trust your creative input on the Patreon. Yeah. Say with Patreon we film we like bulk film so like some stuff that we talk

about isn't relevant by the time it actually goes up. A Q&A, evergreen, kind of always timely. You sound so much like Moses because I remember when I was going on maternity leave and I'm going on maternity leave again for like a week or two or whatever. When you're about to give birth, he's always like, you guys should just do a generic episode that can be posted whenever. I was like, boring.

I like to hear what's happening now. Or talk about what's happening. But that makes sense. That makes sense. So they can watch it anytime. I'm telling you guys our Last Not Loved line will be like May 21st but then Tana will be back. And it literally is like, we just watched the White Lotus finale. And we like said it's not talking about it. I was like, oh my god, this is Tana will be back. And it literally is like, we just watched the White Lotus finale. And we, like, kind of stopped talking about it. I was like, oh, my God, this is going to be so dated.

But I just love talking about a hot topic, you know? It does remind me of, like, your OG YouTube days when you would, like, again, you would mukbang into the cars and stuff, but you were so, like, scheduled in advance. I'd be, like, three weeks late talking about it. Mine would be, like, a month. I would have a month of videos ready to go at all times. I was so scared. I don't know why.

Like I was going to be busy. Like that was never the case. So I had so many videos where sometimes I would just put like two up a day because I had so many. I feel like you were probably influenced because your whole group or whatever were very much like production people who were so planned out like with their upload schedule and everything. So you're like, damn, I guess I got to do it too. it too oh and i was like every day i would post every single day because when the ad was good i was like let me just post every single day now it's like crazy it's like not even anywhere what it used to be vlogmas year round with you oh i oh vlogmas is crazy i would do

to a day i was like obsessed with vlogmas i'd have the vlogging channel and the main channel and i was just posting everywhere vlogmas how funny so much work where's your vlog where's the broadway vlog you stopped vlogging did you give up um temporarily but i there's stuff that i have in my brain that i've been filming some stuff yeah i've been filming some stuff and i have an idea but um yeah it'll come soon did you film when you did the podcast cute decent no i was too scared some stuff. Your brain is crazy. I've been filming some stuff and I have an idea. Okay. But yeah, it'll come soon. Did you film when you did the podcast? No,

I was too scared to vlog with them. Although I meant to take like Instagram photos but then I forgot my freaking influencer camera that I bought to take photos of

and I'm like damn because I really wanted a photo with Ted Nivison but I didn't, I don't know, I was kind of like shook that he was there. But we'll have Ted back

at some point, you know, for those maternity leave videos I think. You gotta be on it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we'll have Ted back at some point, you know, for those maternity leave videos, I think. He's... He's gonna be on it. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, we'll have him on. Paige is a vlogger now. Tana's ex-assistant. Is Paige vlogging? She was vlogging in Vegas and I'm so impressed when people vlog because it is a lot.

It is a lot. To, like, think of it, to bring it, to, you know... Do it. To do it. Yeah, because when there's, like, a flow...

I love it. I love it. If someone wants to vlog, I'm always like, yes, because it's, like, so old school. It reminds me of just, to bring it, to, you know. Do it. To do it. Yeah. Yeah, because when there's, like, a flow. I love it. I love it. If someone wants to vlog, I'm always, like, yes, because it's, like, so old school. It reminds me of just, like, back in the day. And it's cool because then she posted the vlog of the Vegas show, and it's, like, cool to watch it back. It's, like, oh, that's so cool. But it's a lot of work.

So when I see people do it, I applaud it. Yeah. Yeah. And at least Paige is, like, doing, like, interesting stuff. Like, I'm not, you know. You went to my Broadway show. Yeah, and I vlogged that. Well, where is it?

I selfishly want to see it because I want to see the footage you captured. That's why I love TikToks, too. I do love seeing, like, my show because I love when people capture. Some of the TikToks are going so viral. Oh, my God. There was one of me dressed as, like, a yellow outfit with a Culver's apron and a cheese head singing Pink Pony Club. It has, like, literally 4 million views right now. It's, like, so crazy. And it's, like, just, like, literally 20. She's singing Pink Pony Club. It has like literally 4 million views right now.

It's like so crazy. And it's like just like literally 20 seconds of me singing Pink Pony Club. I love it. I think people think Pink Pony Club is my song because like every show everyone asks for it. Like I swear that's like the number one. People like chant it. It's like Shallow and that. I'm like, I wonder if they think it's my song.

I don't know if they think it's my song. I think they do. Because everyone asks for that. I was like – and I don't – Shallow I get because I made the video. Okay. It's like a thing. But Pink Pony Club was like never my thing. I think because your cosplay was just so good that it was like, and I don't, Shallow I get because I made the video. Okay, it's like a thing, but Pink Pony Club was like never my thing. I think because her cosplay was just so good that

it was like, damn. I mean, when Malibu sees Chapel on TV, she says, Mom. Yeah, that is true. That's tea. That's so funny. And you and Chapel Ronu's? No, she's been quiet the past couple days. Yes, it's like the shove or whatever. So she's kind of

just been chilling. She was on, I guess, WMAG lately. But yeah, she's kind of just doing her thing. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Got to see if Misha wants to come to the show. Maybe she does. I think she's back in Texas.

I get terrified to invite performers or real creatives to my show because it's just so – I love my show. I love it. And people love it when they come back. It's like so much fun. But if I was like – someone like Ben Platt was there, I'd be like just so – I love my show. I love it and people love it and they come back. It's like so much fun. But if I was like – someone like Ben Platt was there, I'd be like, oh, I don't know. I don't know if I want you to see this. Really?

But I think they'll see the crowd like loving it. They'll be like, wow, this has – this is it. Like this must be so good. I think even if you're the most nonjudgmental person, there's a little judgment. Be like, what is this? Why is there no music? Why is there no set? You know what I mean?

It's just kind of, yeah, it's hard to get unless you get it. So I get very nervous if anyone of any sort of creative or talent position wants to come.

Even my own agent's a CA. Like, when they come to the New York show, I'm very nervous. I'm like, like, I don't know. It just makes me nervous.

This one too, there's a lot of CA. I'm like, I don't have time to like unsign me. They're like, oh my God, this is,

girl, you told us you want to be on Broadway. You know what i mean like that kind of thing so i don't know i feel like it'll just convince people even more like maybe some casting agent will be there to scout you a casting agent from wisteria lane the spinoff and then you'll be like wow we gotta we gotta get her on maybe i should do a monologue at this show in a way yeah you got it like just in case like a, like a, yeah. A little Hamlet. To be or not to be. I don't know if Hamlet is the way to go. I feel like take shots from with Daryl Lane, like, from the show, and you should be in it. I don't think I have enough time.

Just do a self-tape, like JoJo Entangled, you know. And just play it at some point in the show. Yes, yes. Done and done. I can do that easily. I can edit it. Perfect. Okay, I'll put a little reel together.

Like for the halftime. Be like, hey, if you're an No, I have an agent. If you're a casting producer out there, contact my agent at CAA. It's LA. Everyone knows someone, you know. That is true. It is funny how people do know. It's so small in a way. Yeah, it's all connected. Because if the new show is in current time they need

an influencer yeah you know you like the whistle down of wisteria lane the influencer that right you know what i mean like somebody that is the gossip or the influencer i would love to be an influencer i hate when they but i think i'm too old to play the influencer i think they'd probably like a 20 year old to be an influencer you never know you never know you're the yeah like mom talk yeah and you have

the daughter that is and oh my god that's crazy to be like I could have a daughter on that show like that is crazy like Zac Efron

played a dad in something and I was like that's crazy when he was just like a little kid in high school musical I think I'm not old enough to be a parent I think I'm still too young I'm like a teen. I think I'm not old enough to be a parent.

I think I'm still too young. I'm like a teen mom over here. You're not old enough to be a parent. Yeah. I feel like that sometimes. Like I feel like I'm too young. I feel that every day actually. Right.

Yeah. When I'm babysitting, I'm like, I don't know how I could do this 24 hours a day for the rest of my life. Yeah. Like responsible for their life, for their feeding. Entertainment. Entertainment. Like care. Yeah. Like responsible for their life, for their feeding. Entertainment. Entertainment. Like care.

Yeah. It is quite a commitment. So mama kudos. It's a commitment. Where's my bag? Oh, yeah. Kudos, mama. Especially at the age Alva says they're just crawling and she's just like rolling.

You just got to catch them everywhere they're going. Like, ah, you're just like on top of them. Like, yeah, it's scary. Jojo Siwa was back on The Vile Files. Recently? Yes. Oh, how did I not see this? I think the stress came out like today

because she did an interview, an update. Yeah, literally today, April 30th. JoJo loves a straight man. You know what I mean? She loves to be with the men. Honestly, T, yeah, because she loves Nick Vile. She loves Tyler Cameron. Chris Hughes. Chris Hughes. Those are

her people. Alright. Well, she went on Vile Files and spoke out about her breakup from Kath Ebbs. And she said that Kath cussed her out, and that is what kind of led to JoJo breaking

up with them at the big celebrity big brother after party. What did JoJo say? I am so happy where I'm at right now that I just want to stay here. Whatever that means, whatever this is, I'm great here. Obviously, a lot of people think that Chris had something to do with it, meaning the breakup. But she said Chris does not have Chris does not have absolutely anything to do with it. Chris and I are friends. We have a very, very great friendship.

And then responding to Kath's TikTok where they talked about the breakup, JoJo said that that's not entirely the story. She said, all of a sudden we're at the wrap party for Big Brother. I'm getting cussed out. I understand they're angry and they're coming at me. But I also keep reiterating it like I'm getting cussed out. I understand they're angry and they're coming at me, but I also keep reiterating it like I'm not in a place to talk. Well, I can see that. I mean, Chris Olsen actually said

in a TED Talk this morning, he said, you know, never trust a story that doesn't have like two sides to it. You know, I think that probably is the case. I don't like, you know, back a little what I said last episode is like I do feel bad for Kath.

Like, I mean, that is awful. Like you are in a relationship. The beginning is like, I love this person so much. And then by the end of it, it's like, yeah, you're kind of getting emotionally cheated on or just, I don't know,

made it look a little silly, I suppose. And that is hard and not fair. And yeah, I mean, I'm sure, like I said, if that was, you know, Moses with Gabby Wendy, I'm sure I would also be cussing him out, you know, and be like, I'll be like, oh my gosh, what the hell? But it's that was you know moses with gabby wendy i'm sure i would also be cussing him out you know to be like oh my gosh what the hell but but it's like you know i think there's i think

both of them probably have something to do with it because obviously yeah jojo's jojo wasn't exhibiting relationship behavior on the show yeah t um and then jojo also said that kath requested that she um doesn't discuss their relationship or their breakup and that quote out of respect for another human in the situation they have asked to not speak about it for me not to speak about them i told them i said look that's going to make me seem like i'm an avoidant of the situation and i am not an avoidant so she is gonna reference it and talk about it but asked not to be talked about asked jojo to not talk about them. And JoJo said, look, I have to talk about it at some point. That's a tough one, too.

That is a tough one. I feel like you kind of have to. Yeah. You can be respectful, but you kind of have to. Kath was public with her, too. Yeah. In the relationship. So I do feel it's kind of like, well, you enter that public relationship.

Yeah. So there's. But then it's tough. If someone came to me and was like, don't talk about me anymore on the show. Like if Shane was like, hey, can you stop talking about me i mean i probably would even if he's a public figure and doing dubious things i still probably i guess if it's like really yeah i think for jojo though like this is like jojo is one half of the story like literally half of the story because it's her relationship that relationship is like the headline like internationally because it's all

over the big headline in the uk and in america so yeah right it's like the story that everyone's kind of obsessed with right now so you gotta say something what was the title of nick viles podcast oh good question let me see i always love a title going deeper with jojo seawall okay random okay you over there about the titles and thumbnails what's the thumbnail let's see is it far away i hate when they do far away thumbnails i like i'm up close looking at spotify but let me see what they did on youtube okay it's kind of kooky okay and they're going deeper title is crazy but okay yeah it's it is tough i don't know the answer to that because it's like oh god i

yeah someone asked me to like not talk about talk about that, like, at a relationship level, I'd be like, I don't know. I think it's so situational. Yeah. They – I feel like everyone's at least entitled to saying their piece at least. And you can be respectful about it. Like, I'm not saying JoJo should disparage Kath or whatever, but at least, like, say her side of the story. Right. Like, you know, that really eloquent Chris Olsen TikTok that you referenced.

Like, there are two sides. Yeah. So I think, yeah, JoJo's at least entitled to be like, you know, well, this is what my side of it. Yeah. But not, like, you know, go into detail and, like, you know, put Kath on blast or anything. Like, just do it respectfully. Like, there's a middle ground there maybe yeah i don't know i don't know how long this is gonna follow jojo though like it is the story right now but i wonder like what is next if she gets into another relationship right after i will be like come

on now i know i think at that point we just like let it go and it's on that person be like it's on you because you've seen this all play out. And I think she needs like a year of singlehood. Yeah, and self-exploration. Maybe a retreat or something. Ooh, yeah. A White Lotus trip or something. Her on White Lotus would be crazy.

That'd be wild. Oh my gosh. She should play herself if she's on White Lotus. Mike White is watching that Tangled friggin' audition and being like, damn. I would hire her instantly. Immediately. I would, for real. I thought she was so good i thought she ate what do you think like someone like him does on a normal day like you have this huge show so successful and then like what happens after it's over like when you're done done like just now oh i'm sure he's probably the next one's

probably in pre-production don't you think you just go right away to work another one maybe i mean i feel like a lot sometimes they have like a nice like a couple months off like a few months of just like nothing but then pre-production on the show starts up so early because it is such a long process with like casting crews location they use so many locations and yeah obviously they have like the four seasons but there's they use so many other like exterior shots why four seasons i guess they just have some kind of deal that was i believe so yeah that was put in place after the success of the first season um and but even in like the thai season like they still were shooting in uh other hotels for like different exteriors and stuff oh really yeah i read like a breakdown of all the locations they shot. And it's like, even though it was still the White Lotus, it was still other hotels that

they were using for different areas. Did you see Matt King was like, had a paid partnership to go to the White Lotus Thailand hotel that they use, the Four Seasons? Isn't that crazy? I am leaving. Like the actual hotel where the main pool stuff was. And it was paid partnership. White Lotus. Four Seasons Thailand.

Isn't that crazy? Where was this? On TikTok. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah. I think he had like three or four from there. Yeah.

Yeah. In early March, we flew to Thailand with American Express to live out our White Lotus fantasy in Four Seasons Hotels. Koso Moi delivered,els. Call some way. Delivered, folks. Oh, my God. So crazy. American Express?

What the hell? What's happening? Hashed AMX ambassador. He turned off comments. Oh. I wonder why. It said the advertiser has turned off comments. Maybe American Express just didn't want that. Maybe they used it as a sponsored post or something.

Oh, my God. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. They must have put money behind it because it has so many views that they must have like... So weird. I know. It's like so odd. What? Yeah.

I'm going to go through. Who else did they pick for this? It's just so odd because Matt King has just never been an influencer. He's just not popular. You know what I mean? It's just such a weird person to pick. But he gets major brand deals. I don't know. They, the other influencers are Chloe Bailey.

I guess she makes more sense to me. Which one is Chloe Bailey? She, Halle Bailey's sister. Okay, okay. I don't know if it's Jake Miller. I don't know who Jake Miller is. But they took him to a music festival. Interesting.

I wonder, I want to know who was like doing the influencer list at these brands that they should like. Someone that doesn't know anything. Always, always. The people they pick, I'm just like, who is what? They're like, someone just somewhere is like, oh, he's really influential. I'm like, okay, we'll pick him.

So weird. It is so random and also like do they need the promotion like american express and what four seasons it's like hbo it's so weird when the show is over i we said march so maybe it's beginning they went in march he posted this the beginning of april so the show was in the midst he posted this on four four okay so before the finale april 8th was the finale oh so the week before he posted yeah but everyone was already into the white lotus by then yeah no one needs to watch to be encouraged to watch yeah and they flew him out in march so the white lotus was already on and already a hit what and american

express like you're gonna go get american express because matt king is a partner or go to thailand like it was anyone influenced by mac king to go to thailand versus the white lotus show maybe that part i want to go to thailand i'm not knocking i'll take it american express pay me i'll go to thailand literally that is so mind-boggling i know that is truly mind-boggling sometimes i'm just like what is going on like who some people just i'm saying brands have too much money sometimes and are just investing in weird things i don't know that is very true i want to know like the rate i wish he would leak his like miss hermiash and accidentally did i would die knowing that i would die to know maybe he didn't get paid maybe got eight hundred dollars maybe got eighty thousand who knows he does have like five hundred thousand followers on tiktok that is a good amount yeah okay that's better yeah

because when i knew him he wasn't really like an influencer he kind of just like hung out with supporting yeah supporting character but that's wild yeah that was supporting character that is wild i feel like we should do a protest where we stop talking about brand deals just because we are giving more attention we're giving them more bang for the buck. Like now, you know, people know they can sponsor Remy and they get just Trish. Not only did they get a pretty basic, they got a pretty basic. Then they get just Trish all looped in. Just pretty basic unfiltered over here.

That is so true. Dallas is going to keep paying her because Trisha can't stop talking about it. No, it'll be a hot topic. We got to freaking start putting our foot down. You're right. Let's censor brand names. Yes.

Jimmy, every time we mention a brand from now on, censor it. What did they say? P**sy. P**sy. I'm trying to get that P**sy brand deal because I'm telling you

I love P**sy over Coke. I prefer Pepsi over Coke. It's so good. It burned my throat the other day and it was so good. That's like the Kardashian when they blurred the McDonald's. Yeah, we're going to start blurring it for sure.

Our mukbangs, no more. Was there a big one? I feel like there was a big one today. The James Charles one was, I thought, the big one. There really was nothing else, right? Do you have anything? The confirmation of many of the things

we heard about. Oh my God. Did Moses break this to you or did you see it already when he texted it? No, Moses broke the news to me. We were in a group chat at like 7pm like, was he texting all of us at like 6pm or something? And I was like, what is this? Yeah, I was, I watched it.

Yeah, I mean it was broke by Be Better, you know, we know him for a while. Oh, that's what it was. Moses was on stage like, Be Better sent me this. And then I was about to send it to Oscar and then I realized you sent it in a group chat because we don't really group chat it's always just like uploaded things that's uploaded things that's like our group chat there's no like other chat so then i was like what is he sending in the group so yeah i i only had seen certain clips did you watch the whole thing i watched the whole thing yeah be better interviewed

zach gellers um zach is a former friend of evan. Evan is Kayla Malik's allegedly abusive ex-boyfriend. But Zach Gellers was, I guess, the whistleblower that first posted the TikTok calling out James Charles for having a friendship with Evan despite being friends with Kayla. So Zach was the first one to post a series of TikToks with some screenshots and some receipts showing that James had, or alleging, I should say, that James had a friendship with Evan, alleging that James gave Evan advice on how to deal with the fallout from Kayla's allegations. And also invited, no, not even just invited, flew out, paid for his flight, allegedly. Allegedly flew out Evan Johnson to come stay with him in Encino, California.

And because in the video, it's crazy because Evan, who is supposed to. OK, just let me address this one in particular before going back into it. But this was crazy and showed me so much about who Evan is because he's supposed to be, like, under the radar, not, you know, showing Kayla, like, where he's at because Kayla is friends with James. So if she sees that Evan is at James' house, she's going to be upset. Evan on Snapchat posting at James Charles's house, which is in the backyard, which is all over his TikTok, very identifiable, being like, hey, what's good, LA? And then the next one being like,

I'm going to be having to post a photo dump because I'm not going to be able to post. And then he puts the geotag for Encino to show where he's at. I'm like, how are you not? So dumb. He wants her to know. I think he just I don like, how are you not? So dumb. He wants her to know. I think he just, I don't know. Everything goes back to Snapchat again, you know,

because he was in the creator fund of Snapchat. So he has to post a lot. So that's why he was like posting just backyard. He was just posting random stuff. But if you know his house, which Kayla knows, people that were there knows, they will recognize he's at James Charles' house. You don't think he did it on purpose? I would do it on purpose all the time when I'd be at someone's house.

I'd always try and show a little backdrop thing to show where I'm at. I don't think he was trying to make her jealous. No. So it's not that situation. The gag is huge. So why this is obviously extra terrible. So James, allegedly terrible, whatever. James was friends with Kayla, really good friends with Kayla.

James had also wanted to do like a campaign for his blush, his new blush that was coming out in February, like a Valentine's Day themed photo shoot with Kayla and James. And so that was like already kind of scheduled. But then in February, Kayla broke up with Evan and she told James on the phone and allegedly explained to James the situation that was going on with Evan about him being abusive towards her. And allegedly James's reply was, oh, does that mean I can have him now? And Kayla, I guess, thought that was a joke. But then she picked up that Evan was at James' house. And when she saw that stuff on Snapchat, obviously, Zach and Kayla have receipts. Like, they printed out the snaps so that they knew right away that this was messed up.

And Kayla even called James allegedly and was like, hey, is Evan with you? And James said, no, he's not with me despite him being there. So you already lied basically because we saw on the Snapchat that he was obviously with James. Yeah, yeah. That sucks. That really sucks. It sucks because if – It's like your friend and you see the evidence.

You're like, okay, don't gaslight me. I see it on Snapchat. Yeah. Yeah. And to be like lying about it and stuff too is like like okay what so again that was in february so for context kayla came out at the beginning of april with like her videos that really showed like all the horrible stuff that um evan allegedly did to her but the evidence is very damning like it is so graphic and so triggering and the injuries that she sustained were insane um so the evidence itself obviously is kind of

irrefutable um but in february it was kind of just like there was speculation she had obviously talked to james about it but she was on tiktok live kind of alluding to what happened so the public already kind of had a sense that he did something terrible to her um so the fact that like Kayla's viewers and followers already could pick up on that but James was still with Evan and hanging out with him and giving him advice very very dubious kind of gets worse because um in this interview um with be better zach also alleges that james and evan had a sexual and transactional relationship um zach alleges that there are um videos that he was shown of james and evan um having sex as well. What? Who was Zach in relation to them? So Zach was friends with Evan.

They lived in the same town in Tennessee. Okay. So they were friends. Does he know James? He does not. He only knew James. He didn't know James or Kayla. He didn't know any of them.

He was just his friend. So everything that he heard was his side for a long time. Yes. Until he heard Kayla's story. And when he realized what happened, he basically said, I'll support her in every way I can. Yeah. He totally like flipped and was like, no. And then he ended up working with Kayla to kind of like, know put the pieces and the screenshots and stuff together

yeah um so yeah so uh Zach does allege that he saw like these videos because he was friends with Evan um and at first he thought it was kind of funny like oh look what James Charles sent me um but then he ended up saying something along the lines of him to like hey money is money so implying that there was some kind of transactional. So he's close with Evan and does not know James. No, not personally. Obviously, he knew of James Charles. So that makes sense that the Evan guy would be saying this stuff to him because he had close friends.

And there was times where allegedly that, you know, Evan would be like replying to James on Instagram. He said it was all through like instagram um messages not snap this time um so he was like in the room like seeing when evan was opening up you know photos or videos and it was very much like a sexual relationship so yeah and again at this point james had allegedly been made aware by Kayla of what Evan was capable of and or what Evan was doing. And once Zach first came out on TikTok about this, this was Coachella weekend one. So it was, you know, in April. James is like big weekend. Yes, he did.

He went to Coachella and he replied or he messaged Zach after seeing the TikTok and was like hey I absolutely did not know about this I was being manipulated by Evan um they show the screenshots too well Jimmy you can put it in here I'll screenshot the screenshot and um James kind of makes it seem like you know he was manipulated by Evan he didn't know the extent of what was going on and that he absolutely does not stand by evan and um he would appreciate it if he if zach could take down the tiktoks alleging that he had an uh sexual relationship with evan and that he was happy like to call on the phone and work it out or something james loves the phone call. He loves a phone call. He's always, he's like, we get to talk on the phone. I was like. Yes.

So it's all kind of a mess. So this is kind of like where I punt it to James. Okay. So, you know, people are talking about this. You know, you can't avoid it. You know, there's comments on your TikToks. You know, people are talking about it. You've reached out. I previously reached out.

Couldn't get a statement from him. At first I was like, fine, maybe he's going to do it on his own. So whatever. But at this point, there's been nothing out. Like there's been no response. It's not going away. So, and also you're DMing people who are going to cover it saying, this is absolutely not true.

Like I don't stand by Evan. I was manipulated by Evan. If you're saying this stuff in people's DMs off the record, especially now that there's screenshots of you saying this to Zach, why are you at this point not coming on the record if that is the case? It's so simple. It's like your friend. It's DV.

It's like standing up for everything that's right and just being like, I did not know about this. It's disgusting. I don't stand by it. Period. It's so simple. And it's like, if you can't even do something simple simple like that then like what is happening that seems odd and then it's easy to denounce someone who's like a actual like awful person they're like a monster you can

announce them whether you're best friends or not people did that you know and i get also it is gonna very very likely become like a legal thing with evan um like kayla makes it seem like she's really like wanting to push this all the way to court I guess I get that too but there's ways you can still talk about it without jeopardizing a case like obviously that happens all the time like it doesn't matter how big or small the case is people still James's involvement wouldn't be I wouldn't think legally by him down like he could just say I don't stand by that's done yeah and he could if anything too he could be like yes a testimonial like Kayla came to me

and told me about this like he was a witness really right because she came to him and explained this to him it doesn't look great yeah it doesn't look good it looks like you're still trying to save a friendship when people don't speak out against someone that does something awful it's like I feel like you're trying to save something behind the scenes I don't even know if it's saving

the friendship with Evan at this point I think It's like. I feel like you're trying to save something behind the scenes. I don't even know if it's saving the friendship with Evan at this point. I think it's saving James. I think. This is just my opinion. I think. He has learned from Dramageddon. The second that you acknowledge something. It takes on a life of its own.

And it becomes very real. But also. This isn't. Something that's going to go away. Like Kayla. She's not as big as a Tati or a Jeffree Star. I guess. But she still has a really big following.

That's what that sugar bear hair we're talking about. We're talking about like domestic violence. So in the fact that you were giving an alleged abuser advice, that you were allegedly seducing them, wanting to be with them. Why would you want to clear that up? Why? These are literally the first time I heard this stuff, I was like, there is literally no way this is real because of everything james has went through this is kind of his reputation i'm like this has to be made up because it's so insane how would he be having an affair with his his friends abusive ex-boy like when you put that in a sentence that sounds insane like how

and then seeing all this evidence i'm like what seeing james never come out seeing kayla endorsed everyone else who was talking about it too yeah okay so that also is like giving me such like uh epiphany i'm like why is kayla saying like i can't say anything but i will say everything zach and my sister saying is true why is she facetiming in the interview it ends with the facetime of zach and be better being like thank you guys so much. I'm so excited to see you. I appreciate everything you're talking about. She's endorsing everyone who is also speaking up about James and Evan's relationship.

So why all of a sudden – so now when it affects you, are we not going to believe the woman who was abused? And now – and did you only care? I'm asking the question i'm not you know pointing fingers or anything did you only care about it once kayla came out with the youtube videos that got like 5 million to 10 million views is that when you were like oh i really cannot be seen with evan were you cool with it until it became viral that is my question to you james charles i would love to know and i would love you to actually step to the plate it is time i get that you have a great team, a very successful team of really smart

people who are probably telling you it'll go away, whatever I'm telling you, it's not going to go away. Because as long as that girl has a platform, as long as everyone else who supports that girl has a platform, it will not go away. And I will always be looking at you funny, because how am I going to sit here and be like, maybe James isn't as bad as I thought. Like maybe he's coming around, maybe growth and change. And then the second that you can like swoop in and have some kind of relationship with your friend's abusive ex-boyfriend who ironically is your type as tall, straight, dark hair, abs, model, all of a sudden, like none of this looks good. None of this looks good. It's time to just step up to the plate you wanted to be influencer you somehow have gotten a million chances somehow i've gotten a million chances and you know and i'm not saying like i'm not trying to be a hypocrite i'm with you

who has also had a million chances but i see someone who has had a million chances and has tried really really hard to not let their audience down you have had a million and one chances why are you letting your audience down you ignoring it is letting your audience down speak up post a freaking notes app or something because it's getting ridiculous why is this 20 year old girl that you're supposed to be friends with endorsing everyone's story who is coming out with this it doesn't look good and anyone who's a fan of james who is like well he dm zach and was like oh i had no idea i was manipulated by evan again why is kayla pretty much confirming that she spoke to him about it by endorsing everyone who's speaking out against James?

It doesn't make sense. It makes literally no sense. I think you said it perfectly. I think you said all that perfectly. You pissed me off, to be honest. I was like. Of course. Yeah.

I mean, I feel on such a different level, too, because it's like I've talked to him and it's like, you know, I don't want to ever say anything publicly. And it's like, like you said, don't just like message us and say like, well, I can't talk's like he never don't want to ever say anything publicly and it's like like you said don't just like message us and say like well I can't talk about this I don't want to talk about this but because that's like manipulative it's like well then say it say it like with your chest like say it if that's like the truth like why are you trying to convince us or each individual person that you dm oh I'm not a bad person you don't know the story it's like then say what it is yeah that's like the frustrating part and it's manipulative and it's awful and it's gonna be

yeah it'll be like too late and like you said you've been given a lot of chances and chances like run out and then eventually people just see you as you are and like you said you are getting too old to be just oh well he's just 18 he's just 19 yeah you know better and this isn't like a drama getting where it was like you know people in their mid to late 30s against like a teenager like you are the adult kayla is younger than you why is she having to be more mature than you she is 20 or 26 like how is she supposed to be the response and she's the victim so why is the 20 year old victim having to be the one that has to be like mature and the bigger person and like having to defend herself like this instead of her older influencer

friend with a humongous platform it makes no sense it literally makes no sense it's really pissing me off now because again i didn't believe this when i first heard it because it sounds so insane but the more stuff that comes out not only the more stuff that comes out the more you remain quiet that actually is what is the most damning to me the more again you have nothing to lose because there is literally a screenshot of your dms explaining your side of the situation that Zach and Be Better have now posted. You have literally nothing to lose. But you remaining silent says so much, honestly. It says so much.

Silent speaks volumes. I have no, like, I don't know. To me, I'm like, I don't really have benefit of the doubt anymore. Like, it's kind of gone for me, in my opinion. Yeah, like you said, it's like you can't just keep giving benefit of the doubt anymore like it's kind of gone in my for me my my opinion yeah like you said it's like you can't just keep giving benefit of the doubt and be like yeah maybe this means it's like at this point you know especially like i said kayla being the one to you know why is kayla thanking me for speaking out if she had a problem with if something i said was infactual the last time we talked about it is something that zach or be better covered was incorrect.

She would be the one, you know, so like, of course, out of everyone's side, I'm not going to take James Charles. I'm going to take Kayla side. Absolutely not. So come on now. And that's on period. So. All right.

Well, we'll see. Maybe let's hope by the time this is out. I know. Maybe this will be outdated. I think you're just hoping. Well, yeah, hopefully for him. But it's not. We know James.

We know his pattern of behavior and i would love to be proven wrong like this isn't me like i would love to be made a fool because that means that someone isn't terrible you know what i mean and i am very open to changing my opinion based on information that is presented you know but right now all the information presented is not good for james so like that is why my opinion is so anti-James right now. But it would easily change if there was anything presented otherwise. Yeah. But there has been nothing.

So easily fixed, and yet there is no solution from James. All right. Well, you are very informed on this subject. I like hearing about it. Well, shout out to Moses because he's the one that sends it. He's like, that's all this from Be Better. Also, shout out Be Better. Okay, doing interviews, doing soup style interviews.

Very good interview too. Yeah, he was very good. Yeah, I did tell him that and he said, thank you so much. I did a lot of research and checked all of his claims with my lawyer. Everything he said is true. I even have receipts I didn't include to protect James' privacy. Wow. And I just don't want to include stuff.

But he's happy to share anything. And they're really just trying to help Kayla at this point. Yep. That's amazing. That's amazing. Especially a young girl. No one really comes to the defense of. So it's nice to see there's people online helping her.

Yeah. That's why. Especially Zach for coming forward too. I mean, he kind of had nothing to really gain from this i wouldn't think yeah especially he was didn't know kayla so it seems like he was in shock because he heard um evan's side of the story for the you know how it is you have a friend who's like there's this crazy girl he's a crazy girl and she says all those things. And she does all these things. And so you buy into the story. So then when you kind of hear the flip side of it, you're like, wait a minute. You see that and it's shocking.

It's awful. All right. Well, we'll hopefully have an update next Hot Topics on this. Hopefully a positive one from James maybe. But let's not hold our breath. Yeah. We might pass out. All right, you guys.

Thank you for watching. I hope that this filled your appetite. We're going to – not that part. This is the show. No, I know, but – Filled your appetite. Wet your whistle. Wet your appetite.

Wet your whistle. I do like wet your whistle. Wet your whistle. Is that sexual? I think so oh lord whistle while you work got a bowl

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you can't say that what I would love should I DM her yes I love Lydia you think she'll be with Corey whoa where's she based?

She's like living with Kory. Or they've been living. Should we fly her out too? Maybe. Okay. I'll DM her today. Yeah. Oh my God.

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