Just Trish - Trisha's Baby Is Coming EARLY & The Watcher's GREEDY Scandal...

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

Baby Elvis is coming sooner than we thought! On episode 72 of 'JUST TRISH', Trisha shares an update on her due date--and reveals that she can be going into labor any second. Plus, The Watcher's GREEDY scandal causes viewers to stop watching the popular true crime YouTube channel. And viral TikTok sensation Harry Daniels reveals how he got to perform for President Joe Biden and pop princess Sabrina Carpenter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey guys, welcome back to Just Trish. We're relaxed today. Well, I thought we were. I thought we were having a little chill day. I guess we didn't coordinate properly. Do we ever? Never. I know.

I guess I should have. Anyways, you guys, today we have sponsors. We love our sponsors. And today we have two exciting sponsors. Our first one is DoorDash. DoorDash is sponsoring and we love DoorDash because we use them all the time. And we'll talk about them later on in the podcast. But there's a $0 delivery fee if you sign up for Dash Pass.

Only on DoorDash. And we love you, DoorDash. We also have Adam and Eve. AdamandEve.com. Use code JUST for 50% off for all your fun, romantic needs. And our Patreon. Patreon.com slash JustTrish. We have a new headshot a new sticker

of the month moses our lovely model will show it off bridgeton trish is here so get your bridgeton trish and our little what's our trish moji sticker of the month is it the oh i think that's the one is it yeah oh yeah that's the chicken tenders one where I was like – oh, also drinking an apple juice, manifesting Malibu's love for apple juice in that one. So yeah, patreon.com slash justtrish. You'll hear more from our sponsors, DoorDash and Adam and Eve later on in this episode. We absolutely love you guys. Please go support them.

They're amazing. And even later on in the episode, we have a second chair here because we have a special Hot Topics guest, Harry Daniels, the man of the hour who's at coachella singing to literally everybody jack adenoff i just saw the other day um maybe he'll sing to me and i can't wait for that but until he gets here we have taylor swift the what oh ttpd is what i've been seeing ttpd album um just celebrating it she's the guest of honor today. Love the album cover. It's beautiful. It's wonderful.

Oh, I thought it was a disorder of some kind. What? The Tortured Poets Disorder. Oh, disorder. Yeah, isn't there like the Tortured Poets Society? I think that's

the Dead Poets Society is a movie. Okay. There's a lot happening there. There's a lot. There's a lot of lore. A lot of lore. The lore is luring.

Everyone talks about lore. Moses got glasses. What? Very – it had an impact. And Oscar. Oh, my God. He said that when he saw you because we got the glasses down in Orange County. And then the next day we saw you.

And he's like, I think Oscar has the same glasses. And I was like – which is weird because actually like we just – my mom and I were with – because he like went to a glasses place and the guy was having glasses and he was just like not having it. Moses was not liking any of the styles. So then my mom and I saw those and we're went to a glasses place and the guy was having glasses and he was just not having it. Moses was not liking any of the styles. So my mom and I saw those and we're like, oh, those are kind of cool. And you liked them. They were comfortable.

It really turned around because he kept giving me glasses and I would put them on and I would look at myself and be like, this is horrible. This is horrible. This is horrible. I can't do this. And then I asked them to help me and then suddenly they just gave me this pair, which I would never pick. And I put it on. It was like, this is the right one it's perfect i love those i wanted him i wanted the thick black ones but like yeah they didn't look great on you like i like the

thick black but those are i guess those are also just very and like every single guy has them jack can't knock you let's put the side by side of everybody again let's do six now we have ten nepheson and moses to add to. Just everyone looking the exact same. Garrett Watts has them. You like them though? They're comfortable? Yeah, because I can't have anything on me. So that's why I never have jewelry accessories in that thing. But this one is like light. It's very light. Yeah.

You guys do look very similar today. Maybe it is the glasses that make you look like everybody. Every time someone has glasses, you say in dark hair. You look like, right. That looks like you. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. It looks amazing.

Everyone looks great. So, yeah. This is the it moment. This is the hot topics. Everyone's talking about it. Whether you like it or you hate it, everyone is talking about the Taylor album. I've seen a lot of Swifties be like, you know, I love Taylor Swift, but. It's a very divisive album. It's a very, very divisive album.

Oh, well, you know I love it. I really do love it. It's not my favorite Taylor album. I don't think it's a very very what are your thoughts oh well you know i love it i i really really love it it's not my favorite taylor album i don't think it's her best album yeah but i think it's one that she had to release because i think she just was going through a lot and it's surprising because i thought it'd be like a joe alwyn do you know who joe alwyn is yet no is that the one is that the one pretty likes pretty bruski is that the one she likes no the maddie healy they're both data taylor they both did and they're both problematic um no joe alwyn is just boring is what we found out in the press is that what did she say what

was her lyrics so i mean it's just in summation she only had like a couple songs about joe alwyn everyone thought it was going to be the big joe allwin like breakup album because she was with him for like six years um i didn't know and then no one really saw the breakup coming et was the first one to break the news about the breakup and it was right after i saw her publicist at the arrows tour so i think i had a little bit of sway there this is just me did you break it i'm the one that posted all the news and everyone this is i just had to get on my soapbox for a second because all the swifties i was like wow this was like i tweeted for my personal wish i never did and i was like this is really hard news for me to break you guys like i'm really sorry and everyone everyone was dragging me through the mud

no one believed me no one believed me oh my god you were the first i'd be scared to be posed that right first i was what if you were wrong no i knew it was i just knew it had to be real um just because of the way that we got the news and i was like so nervous to post about it and i was like nervous to say like i'm sorry like i had to break it but and everyone was talking me through the mud no one wanted to believe it everyone's like et's always wrong like you guys never get the story right and i'm like you guys it was like for real i couldn't even say anything because it's like they're just gonna go off on me but i was right and everyone now everyone is celebrating that day um i think it was the 17th i want to say like it was pretty recent like the year anniversary of

april so the one year anniversary is really recent of when you broke it yeah when they announced their breakup fitting then that we have this today yeah but yeah everyone thought it was gonna be the big draw on breakup he only has like two or three songs kind of about him um and they're just like you know you never propose we never have babies and then you kind of just like it was like kind of sad because it's kind of just like a slow like fizzle out you know what i mean yeah she doesn't write like they had a big like thing that broke it. It kind of just sounds like it kind of faded. Oh my God. And then Matty Healy.

When I was listening and I realized Matty Healy was the inspiration because I thought about like, ooh, bad boy tattoos. Does he have tattoos? Is he a bad boy? To me, he looks just so like nerdy British. He's like an alternative like bad boy. Oh, okay. You know, he's doing drugs and pills and drinking and like, oh, he's going out.

He's bad. Is that what she said? Yeah. She does say that? Oh my gosh. Did you listen to all 31 songs? All 31 songs. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it's been a lot. And it came out the day Ted was here too. So I was like really going through a lot of emotions. I was like, oh my God, it's like new Taylor album, Ted. Like it was a lot. Oh, yesterday. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's crazy. It was a lot to process. Yeah. Oh my God. Maybe, maybe that's why you woke up this morning. You're just like overwhelmed. You know, like yesterday I was like, yeah, it's a lot happening. Yeah. Cause I mean, even when Ted said like he could do like 419, I was like, I was, I was mentally preparing like, okay, Taylor, Ted, like I can do this. I can get through

it. Yeah. But my God, it really took a lot out of me. I didn't realize. Did you mark it down? Do you have like a journal where you like mark down significant dates and like this happened today? I have a little planner that I write stuff in. And do you say like, thank you for today. This was an amazing day or anything? No, I should do that. I always do.

I'm always like something big. I'm always like, thank you for today. Or even if something like scary happens, like Malibu falls and like bumps her head or something like that. And I'm like, oh my God, thank you so much for like, you know, protecting Malibu. You know, I just- That's so sweet. That you remember those days and then the thankful and the gratitude.

Or if it's a really good day too. It's like my god today was day you know the weekend or you know I saw something it's like I don't know that's a beautiful thing to do yeah then like a year from now like you'll know the specific day and it's like huge like look back on it but I feel like you remember it in your head like you knew 417 was Taylor Swift I not the exact I just know around so I should be right I was like that's pretty good you remember that so what did she say about maddie healy she's just like he did drugs it kind of made it seem like she like went back to him like she was the big maddie was a big rebound after joe um she kind of describes it as like a moment of like manic of mania like psychosis almost like the way she talks about it it's like she went from her like long relationship she's like rebounded with maddie and she knows that the fans did not like them together and she's like clocking

the fans say like yeah she's like um all the creeps who think that they know what's best for me she's like you guys don't know like i want him um was she writing this like while she was dating him i think or after the fact i think both because it's like she has songs that are talking about like the process of like falling um out of love with with Joe and then kind of in with Maddie and then out of Maddie. It kind of seems like Maddie kind of like ghosted her a little bit. It's like the vibe. So it's like that whole thing of like going with Maddie, everyone telling her not to be with him and then him kind of ghosting her.

And then some Travi songs, which we love. Killer Trav got some cute romantic songs. Who's Travi? Can we talk about Travi?, which we love. Killer Trav got some cute romantic songs. Who's Travi? Can we talk about Travi? Trav is Kelsey. Oh. I was like, this is a new one. OK, got it.

Trav is Kelsey. Travi, we love. What's the Travi song? Just like, ooh, you make me feel like I'm in high school. I'm in love with you. Like, full throttle. What is it? Touch Me While Your Friends Play Grand Theft Auto.

Wait, what? She's like in the room at the same time as them. And then it's like, what is it? Touch Me While Your Friends Play Grand Theft Auto. Wait, what? She's like in the room at the same time as them? And then it's like, what is it? It's like, I know Aristotle. And then like, basically it's like,

I'm smart. You just play football. And that's okay. Just shading her boyfriend. It's so cute. It's really cute. Oh my, there's a wide range of emotions then in this album.

It's very chaotic. It's very chaotic. It's like messy. Wow. I chaotic. It's, like, messy. Wow. I think it's supposed to be that way, though. I think it's just kind of, like, an explosion of, like, different emotions. And, like, I think also it's a lot of it about, like, people forget that she's, like, a child star. Like, she got famous at 14.

Right. So she still has, like, those levels of, like, struggling to experience, like, adult emotions in a way where she can express them without like the criticism and the judgment you know she got a lot of judgment for this right everyone's like let it go girl yeah yeah it's a lot of that it's like okay i think she's still processing it and you know i think there is that element of like this is her journal yeah literally singing your journal yeah which i feel like the fans would like because that's, like, giving so much insight. Like, even the Kim Kardashian stuff and everything like that. I'm like, at least she's, like, able to express it.

You know what I mean? I feel like she was suppressed for, like, a long time. Mm-hmm. And I think there's, like, a difference between, like, the casual Taylor Swift fan and, like, the true, like, stans. Yeah. Because I think the stans all, like, really love it. But I think the more casual listeners is kind of like a turnoff because it's like it is

just very chaotic, you know? And it's like unfiltered and it's. Shout out unfiltered. It's pretty and unfiltered. They're getting sued though. You can't say pretty by unfiltered anymore. I thought that was clickbait. No, that's why they were all in judges outfits.

Moses is like, why are they all in judges outfits? I was watching it on TikTok. Anyways, they're no longer pretty and unfiltered. Time to use my name, Unpretty. I love that name. I think that's good. Anyways, they were going to be like illegally, and I think Alicia, anyways, nobody cares. Let's keep going. Unpretty

unfiltered. Unpretty unfiltered. Alicia Marie wanted four college dropouts. I'm like, that's pretty good too. Anyways. We have to circle back to that because I'm actually interested. We don't have to circle back to that at all. No, I actually want to know. Okay, but yeah, back to unfiltered, how people are not feeling it. So I get why it's very divisive. It is unfortunate though.

It makes me really anxious talking about her because I know that like people have like really strong opinions either way just because she's like so popular. Do you get anxious talking about her? Like you think you're going to get canceled by the fans? No, I don't think I'm going to get canceled. It's just because I love her so much and now it's like profitable to have a really extreme opinion on her like if you love her it's profitable if you hate her it's profitable just because like it drives engagement like ben shapiro is doing like a whole video taylor swift you're not a poet you suck wait what yeah it's like kind of wild i think

he's a troll totally it's giving back like barbie though it's like yes it's like a cultural phenomenon so like you have to have like an extreme opinion to like get views and because you know a bunch of people does not care about taylor swift yeah yeah but i think in a way doesn't that help someone right isn't it good to be like hated and loved i think sales wise or streaming wise yeah because like i think she broke the spotify record i think she got like over 13 million streams like the first day or something. Did that knock out Karma? Karma's no longer number one.

I don't know if Karma was ever number one. Really? I thought it was like – I thought it was number one or something. I think JoJo said so. That's very me. Be like, it's number one. Because it does go like number one somewhere for like a minute. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Anyways. All right. Well, shout out to the sponsor DoorDash. Now they have DashPass where you can get $0 delivery fees. If you're looking to save on delivery, DashPass from DoorDash is your door to $0 delivery fee and savings you can't get anywhere else. So DoorDash is a food delivery service that we love. It's our number one used one. It's quick. It's efficient. It has the most variety of restaurants and places

to get groceries. We love DoorDash and now it's going to be even better because now they have Dash Pass, which gives you $0 delivery fees. Okay? Okay. Now we don't need to complain anymore about delivery fees because DoorDash has you covered with Dash Pass. Dash Pass not only gives you $0 delivery fees, but it also gives you members-only discounts and just overall great value on items and lower service fees on eligible orders. DashPass makes it easy to save at restaurants, grocery stores, and local favorites on DoorDash. DashPass pays for itself

in basically two orders on average. You get special access to exclusive promotions and menu items, all for only $9.99 a month. And that is a huge savings. By the time all those fees adds up, for only $9.99 a month. And that is a huge savings. By the time all those fees adds up for only $9.99 a month, it's going to pay for itself in two orders. And if you're anything like us, we're using DoorDash two times a day. So it's a great deal. I love that they did this. DashPass, it's super innovative, super new. I love that DoorDash is doing this because it really is

our tried and true one. And it's giving back, right? It's giving easy. it's giving easy it's giving uses all the time because sometimes it's just you don't want to go out you don't want to cook you don't want to run out oh he just ran out oh i forgot something doordash is the way to go they also have just a variety of restaurants honestly it really is our most used one so with dash pass you're getting zero dollar delivery fees plus all this exclusive lower priced membership options and access to promotional deals and it's just really a win-win. So if you're a DoorDash user already, highly recommend signing up for their exclusive membership with Dash Pass.

So open the door to $0 delivery fees and savings you can't get anywhere else. Sign up for Dash Pass today only on DoorDash and get your first 30 days free if you're a new member. Subject to change, terms apply. Yeah, it's been a tradition. Every time Taylor drops an album i go to target first thing it comes out yeah it's it like brought me back because then i just remember like going to uh like in high school like before her second album came out fearless

like i went to walmart because that's where she did exclusives first like i went to walmart before school and i was so excited my mom took me so yeah it brings me back wow your I was so excited. My mom took me. So yeah, it brings me back. Wow, your mom was so nice. I'd be like, oh, you're going to school. We're not dropping. We're not getting Taylor Swift. My mom was so supportive of everything I stand. She went with me to One Direction because I had no one to go with. When I went to see Taylor when I was younger and we couldn't afford three tickets, they would just wait in the parking lot. And I went alone. No way! Oh my god, that's actually so nice though. I know. They're so sweet. i love parents like that i know because i've like i never really had friends to go with like to see her so i literally

would go alone they would just wait and the parking lot was over oh my i mean i relate i mean we used to go but like we'd get like bad tickets like my my dad would take me to see at like the rose bowl but we'd be like way in the back or something like that but it still was cool because i was like such a bad i'm like no i need a good ticket but we would just buy one because we could only afford one and then I would just go sit and they would wait for me which is so sweet

but that's even nicer they're like why don't you go in the front I know the fact that they would just wait in the car for three hours is kind of insane

I don't know if I would do that but it was so sweet no I feel like he would you know because you know how much it meant I would totally do that 100% like if she wanted to

like I told you my dad would like we'd stand outside Michael Jackson's house for like 12 hours hoping he'd come out and then when he'd come out it would be such a big deal and we would just like sit outside his house like – we'd stand outside Michael Jackson's house for like 12 hours hoping he'd come out and then when he'd come out it would be like such a big deal.

And we would just like sit outside his house. Like it was crazy. Don't do that though. That's like weird. But how old were you when you first saw Taylor? I was freshman in high school. I remember so vividly because I was going through a little country phase because of like Carrie Underwood.

Oh, yeah. She was good. She was good. I think I was like 13 in 2000 – just like December 2006 when I first started listening to her. Wow. So a couple months after her first album came out. And then I kind of like stand immediately. Taylor Swift's first album was 2006?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Like her very, very first debut album. That's why I don't remember because that was already after high school for me. So I think I missed it. She didn't really get huge until I guess her second album. She got really big, but still like in the country world. i don't think she really like broke out until like 1989 like fully what year was that that was 2012 yeah fuzzy years i can imagine 2015 i remember it's like 2006

2012 kind of fuzzy that makes sense because i was like i just don't remember like her blowing up i don't remember any of that but yeah and even like the kanye thing that's why i understand why she's still through shade at kim because the kanye thing happened when she was still a teenager she was like 18 i think yeah so i can understand how that would like still like mess with her even to today i think i was thinking about it too like there's people that like when they come for your career it's like hard to get over that you know what i? Especially when it's like false stuff that is like edited away. That like ruins you for a while. Like mentally, financially, all of it.

It's just like you'll never let it go. Like you can never let it go. And it's just like kudos to her that she's able to like, you know, get it out. Because it does feel good. You know, it's like the timing, right? It's always like the timing to like just get it out how you feel. And when you explained it to me in our Taylor Swift episode, I think it was like episode two or whatever we did. I didn't even know like the whole lore, I guess you could say of like what Kim Kardashian did and

you know, the tweets she would do. It's like that was like really wild and vile and just like extra for no reason. Like the editing of it all. Like it was kind of like crappy and- Yeah. And like to edit, like even though I like Kim. Love Kim. Skims. and yeah i'd like to edit like even though i like kim i love him but yeah we love him i do like him but i mean like when you think about it's like edit a phone call to like make it to push this narrative and then years later when the unedited phone call comes out it's like just ignore it and then a lot of people will still hate taylor just like ignore that the truth came out you know what i mean but it's like it doesn't fit the narrative anymore so like totally people just exclude it yeah it's giving adam mcintyre you know what i mean when his edited

clip and then it came out later because that that is like a whole different form of yeah it's like manipulation yeah and it sucks like that sucks so much so so you think that song is about kim i mean i the letters k-i-m are capitalized oh is it really because i saw that typed out but i didn't know that's how it was on the album that's it's like so unsettled i like i couldn't live like it's so messy right that's not like taylor right she's like to me she's like not problematic in yeah she doesn't really do like messy mess like she'll like allude and it's kind of it'll be like kind of like maddie healy is kind of obvious because of like the little details and stuff but then they're just like straight out like capital letters k-i-m be like your daughter's gonna come home singing in a song and only you and i will

know yeah it's such a gag and it's so like interesting because i feel like kim also tried to like skate by like she started using taylor's songs like her instagram story and like she's saying like everything's cool yeah like and like Chloe's also using it Courtney like Penelope had like the heirs tour merch like in Courtney's social media they're trying to be like we're cool yeah she's like no we ain't interesting I but again I love that for her because that is so much that's so traumatizing and so much and like yeah you really never forget it and if you're in a position to finally be able to be like letting it out and i feel like people can appreciate that because it is wild like do you said did kim apologize you said she never apologized she just kept it moving you know

interesting yeah that's interesting to me i think she would just want to be like i'm so sorry taylor like something so at least you know like it's like we talked about this like apologies if you just put it out there then people can't keep coming at you. Like, you never took accountability. You never whatever. But if she, like, actually said, like, sorry, Taylor Swift, like, I feel like more people could just, like, forgive her. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I think she had an – Kim had an out, too, because of, like, the Kanye stuff to just be like, you know, I was, like, with my husband. I was really trying to be supportive of him. She had kind of, like like an out or at least an explanation, you know, to where it would, you know, at least kind of explain like what she did. But she kind of just kept it moving and was like, yeah, I'm just going to post about Taylor now. Hopefully no one knows. And Taylor's like, absolutely not. We will not forget. I kind of live for that move. Like, yeah, it is crazy because when we're talking about Sabrina Carpenter for

Skims, I didn't even think about how she's using like all her friends like Lana, Sabrina. Yeah. I'm like, oh, that's kind of weird. I mean, obviously – And Brittany Mahomes. Oh, yeah. Do you think it was on purpose? I saw it after we talked about it and I was like, is that like real, that conspiracy?

Like – I don't know. I think it's also like they're all just really popular. But because of Taylor, right? Like Sabrina's popular. Brittany Mahomes, I didn't know who she was until Taylor joined the Steve's. And Sabrina too, like I love her now. And I knew about her, but I don't think she's like as popular.

She wasn't on the Heiress Tour. Yeah, I think Heiress Tour helped give her like a second win. Yeah. Because she's been around forever, but Heiress Tour kind of gave her like a big push. Yeah. I was like, oh, Sabrina, like where'd she come from? You know what I mean? So it is kind of interesting.

That is kind of tea, yeah. Yeah. Selena Gomez is next. Oh my God, could you imagine? Well, after Taylor like gave Charlie Puth a shout out, I'm like, I guess Selena, you can do skims because that was wild. That's true. Did you see Josh Gad?

Do you know who that is? Yes. Did you see his post? No, what did he say? He's like, I wonder whose phone is blowing up more than Charlie Puth's right now, right? Because she gave the shout out. Oh, I think John's name was like Kim K. It's like, ooh, messy.

I love both of those guys getting in the Taylor Swift drama. That's too funny. Shout out to the sponsor of today's episode, Adam and Eve. You guys know I love Adam and Eve, tried and true. Worked with them for seven, eight years. They're amazing. AdamandEve.com. They're offering 50% off to our viewers. If you use the code ADJUST, you get 50% off any single

item on the website, plus free shipping if you are in the US and Canada. I've used Adam and Eve for years. During my single years, they definitely have saved me so many times from going out just out of desperation. I got to stay in the comfort of my home, just have all the toys I needed, and I was set. Then when I got into a relationship, you know, sometimes you're like, okay, the beginning is all hot and heavy, but what do you want to do to spice it up? There are some things that even humans can't do. Adam and Eve has you covered for all things intimate, sexy, and romantic. AdamandEve.com, you guys use the code ADJUST.

They're giving you 50% off and free shipping if you're in the US and Canada. It always comes in discreet packaging. So fun, so tried and true. Love them for years. It's my favorite thing to get in the U.S. and Canada. It always comes in discreet packaging. So fun. So tried and true. Love them for years. It's my favorite thing to get in the mail. And have a little fun. Spice up your life. AdamandEve.com.

That was pretty good. But it's weird that Taylor gave Charlie Puth a shout out. I'm going to give her a pass because like she says that she was kind of in a weird like manic era with Mattie Healy. She doesn't know what she's saying. I think she was a little out of it. So I'll give her that pass. But yeah, Charlie Puth, I have beef with him. I won't let that go yet.

Wait, has he said anything about it? No, which is weird. I'd be flexing it so much. Should he be a bigger artist? Is that the debate? I don't know. Wait, what's your beef with him? He was really weird about Selena Gomez, about how he kind of felt almost entitled to hook

up with her or sleep with her or something. Right. Did we talk about this in the Brooke episode? In the Brooke one, yeah. Okay, okay, yeah. Brooke's coming up next week. Because I was like, wait, or this week rather. Yeah, no, that is kind of weird.

So he basically was just like- He had this song- Popular song. What was it? Yeah. Oh my God. Is it We Don't Talk Anymore? We Don't Talk Anymore is what you guys said. Oh, is it we don't talk anymore we don't know anymore it's what you guys said oh attention you don't uh you just want attention you don't want my heart

oh yeah i remember that so i didn't know that was about i didn't know that's him i had no idea i guess yeah i was like wow it sounds like the weekend or something that's funny but and then he explained like in a genius like breaking down the lyrics it was like oh about this girl who like um we would have a thing we would talk and she'd be really into me but we didn't like hook up like she wouldn't actually have sex with me and then she'd wear this perfume that she knew i liked blah blah blah and it kind of just felt like you were entitled to sleep with someone because they right right you know yeah talking to you i guess which is just like a weird mentality to have about a woman in general in general he also dates real young girls right like i don't know i don't know

anything about him except the selena stuff and that he loves to like gay bait which i'm also like okay but you only like it if it's like harry styles or something because at least harry styles has like a little bit of queer codedness to him like that's true yeah and we actually don't know his stance we don't know yeah his dating but charlie we know he's straight so he does what what does he do that i haven't seen anything about it he loves to post his little like uh tidy whiteys with like see-through or he'll wear like the sweatpants and you can see like the the imprint yes but maybe maybe he is a gay i don't know maybe he does it for girlies i don't know no he definitely does it for girlies. I don't know. No, he definitely does it. Oh, really?

He knows exactly what he's doing. Yeah. Huh. Interesting. But you don't love that. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think like – I'm not a Charlie Puth fan, trust me. But I'm just trying to think like –

I don't like when they – when straight guys like profit directly off of like gay men's thirst. Because like they'll play into the fantasy of it but they're not really – They're not queer and they're also like not really that outspoken about like gay rights you know it's like they're not like it's not like ted who's like unintentionally attracting totally attention it's like they're intentionally trying to they're like and the gays are like i don't know if i want this actually yeah got it got it yeah harry like is a little queer coded but but he's also pretty outspoken about – Yeah.

He'll at least wave the gay pride flag around. He loves a rainbow. Does he do the trans flag? I love the trans flag. Yeah. At his concerts, he's waved all the flags. Oh, so totally that then. Yeah, for sure.

But Charlie, I don't know if he ever has. He did write for O2L. And iJustine, I think he had a Farmville song. Oh, right. Right. So he was – I guess it's more YouTuber coded than queer coded. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

I've always had like a weird taste in my mouth. I don't know him. I just always have heard stuff I guess. It was mostly just like him dating like really young girls. Not like underage girls. Just like really young is what I've always heard. Like 18-year-olds. How old is he anyway?

I mean I think he's older. My age I want to say. I think. At least in his 30s because he's been around 32 yeah so yeah i guess i mean i just always know his day like really like there's been things about him he's a little dubious at least for sure but i guess from that perspective and the gay perspective so and burke doesn't like his pitch oh yeah it's perfect is that what you said something like i'm over the pitch perfect matching it's kind of funny everything uh he's sorry he's he's talented though i mean he's talented but oh the macon trainer thing was the other thing i didn't like remember

when they kissed on stage oh yeah and he's like oh i was like not into it or something you're so right i forgot about that one too yeah i was like i always knew i had like a little ick when he talks but i'm like what is it that i didn't like? And it was so weird. He's like, I'm not attracted to her like never. I was like, oh, I hate that so much. Yeah, he's definitely dubious. That's why I'm like, Taylor, let's think a little bit. But that's my sister. She turns a blind eye a little bit towards these like odd, suspicious men.

But what can I do? I don't blame her. Yeah, she's, you know, in love. Everyone needs a little bit of a messy era. And I think that's just just we always talk about this the world we live in just always kind of like well men they're just kind of all they're all a little fuzzy coated in our eyes you know what i mean something about a bad boy i'm glad she got out of her system though she's with travis and she's like happy but um that's why i think she had to get all this out and it's like very divisive and it's a little bit messy and it's

31 songs a ton of songs that's wild you said insane she recorded it all on tour and it's a little bit messy and it's 31 songs a ton of songs that's wild you said she recorded it all on tour yeah it's been in the past two years i think it was a couple um right before eris tour because it was like the joe allman stuff but the maddie stuff was last summer so it all happened really quick yeah who's your maddie healy do you have one that's a good question bad boy i have a boy. I don't have a bad boy. That you're like, oh, he's kind of ick, but also hot.

Like that I've actually dated. Or it could be a celebrity where you're like, he's the worst. Like I think my current one is Sacha Baron Cohen is my Maddie Healy. I can't stop thinking about him,

but he's disgusting and gross. The only bad boy that I've had, I guess was like Harry Styles, but he's not even that bad why was he bad when he was younger he was definitely like a playboy like he definitely got around oh but is that bad because the taylors who have had a lot of boyfriends no it's i think it was more so like he got around you know what i mean like he was like hooking up a lot confirmed confirmed he was like playing the field cheating, cheating, whatever. Yeah. Really? Who confirmed it?

Taylor. 1989. Oh, okay. I need to listen to it. I'm not up on my Taylor discography. Okay. So I've got you. But I've even had friends that hooked up with him back in that era of his like –

Wow. Yeah. So you knew. He's like, okay. All right. Yeah. Bad boy Harry. That's why we like him.

Yeah. I think he's definitely settled down now. But I think that's just a matter of like growing up, you know. Yeah. Because wasn't he like 30 now you said or something? Yeah. Which is crazy. So like the 20s is like the time to get that out of your system.

A lot of bad boys in their 20s. Yeah. But I'm never like a bad boy kind of boy really. Me either. I'm like I don't want someone – well, you know what? I guess I've had eras of that for sure where like people who are really – mine was always like guys that were into drugs for some reason. I don't know because they're very nice.

Like drug addicts are like actually the nice, like really nice people. They don't really like mean to hurt anybody except like really themselves because they're so like, you know, in their sickness. But I always was attracted to that because I was not me. It was so opposite of me. And I was not, when I was like depressed or something, I was just like, maybe this is what I need. I don't know. There is something, there was something like weirdly attractive. I don't know the psychology behind why I was attracted to that because it would be people who were like severely sick and addicted. But I had a couple of people that I was in that era. I don't know if it was me trying to spiral

or I don't know what it was. I'm not sure. But yeah, I guess there's some appeal to it. I don't know. The psychology's warped. Why? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. And there are just like a lot of like romance books. I feel like that's a big popular trope like the good girl with like the bad boy right almost like a i can maybe like fix him kind of thing or like you'll be the reason why like he'll change or like get over his sickness i feel like that was a big trope especially like 2010s like what what movie are you thinking almost like a like in like that 50 Shades era. I feel like that was very popular. Like the bad boy because there were so many books that were like all about like the guy who was just like a player and he would drink or do drugs and then it was

like the good girl who he'd like kind of corrupt you know. Right. I think I always just wanted to be corrupt. I don't even think I wanted to help them. I was just like I just want to spiral with you. Oh wow. I think because I was like I don't even think I wanted to help them I was just like I just want to spiral with you I think Oh wow I think Because I was like I don't know Yeah

And then I kind of like got too scared You know you get into it a little bit And then you're like kind of scared You're like Actually we could actually die This is like so scary So I don't know Yeah that's interesting

But yeah I think you're I think you might be more right Is like trying to fix Like you know I can help them I can fix them Yeah I think Yeah

Probably more normal Is like a thing where it's like Oh oh, I can be the reason he changes. I guess like maybe I've had that with guys like I've had a situationship with when I knew they were like seeing a lot of other people. I was like, no, I'm going to be the one he like chooses. And then I'll be the one he wants to actually like date and pick. But it happens, I feel. Totally. I just was never the one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same. Me neither. I think I was always the one that like I would was never the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same. Me neither. I think I was always the one that like I would always put – we talked about this, like putting myself in dangerous situations for every twilight to like have the guy save me. And then they'll feel like they're saving me and I needed to be – and it kind of like worked out. But yeah, I always wanted to – it never worked out either. The problem is you put yourself in dangerous situations with the wrong guys that don't care and then you just get – end up in a ditch or something like that. But find the right one and then you're like, oh my god, I got saved. You know what I mean? But anyways, I'm also – end up in a ditch or something like that. But find the right one. And then you're like, oh, my God. I got sage.

You know what I mean? But anyways, I'm also – I'm not a tortured poet. I would say I'm a tortured – what would be inside a poet? I'm a tortured – Podcaster. Podcaster. I'm a tortured – yeah, podcaster. That's a good one.

Tortured influencer department. What would you be? The tortured what department? Tortured otter department, I guess. Otter. Are you going to get the otter emojis? We need to get more. I need to follow up with him. We need otter emojis. We need to cut out some other ones. I want to get the pride one

for the pride one. Oh, yeah. But I can't cut it out. Anyways, that's the whole thing. I can't cut it out, so I need to reformat it somehow. Anyways. What are you a tortured? You're a tortured artist. That's who you are. Oh, Tia. Yeah, tortured artist. I don't know. I was always a happy artist oh okay just kidding i know most like i was never depressed like okay okay normal over there just happy um well we love to see it it is funny too though because you see like the straight man now i think what's his name oh my god oh dave portnoy god that wasn't even

like shit i just forgot his name um he has like taylor merch that he's like released too i'm like oh wait what can he do that i don't think i mean i think there could be a cease and desist i'm sure but for now what is it what's it say directly or indirectly it was like taylor travis merch what yeah oh that's so weird he had one for christmas too like swift swiftness or something i don't know. It was odd. Yeah, he really likes her, right? Allegedly. I don't know. Like I said, a lot of people come out of the woodworks to like Stan, you know? I think he's been defending her for a minute because I don't know if it's like a joke.

He always liked Justin Bieber too, which – okay. I was kind of like – I don't know. Like you know what I mean? Like if – they're like kind of the same age. I think Dave's a little older maybe, I don't know. Like, you know what I mean? Like, if they're like the kind of the same age, I think Dave's a little older, maybe. I don't know. But if like Moses was obsessed with like Justin Bieber and like Taylor Swift, I would be like, I don't know.

It's kind of weird, right? Or if that just- You would expect him to have a daughter, like a teenage daughter. And that's why he cares about it at all. Yeah, that he's like, okay, I'm into it. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe I'm wrong.

Let me know if this is a hot take. Because I'm like, is it ages to be like, oh my God, it's kind of weird if you're a fan of like Justin Bieber? Because he was like really hardcore Justin Bieber too. I don't know. I guess maybe because he's a guy too. Maybe it's like if like an older woman's a fan, it's like not as weird. But maybe like an older man, it's like weird.

I don't know. Or is it not? Am I just being weird? Is it more as a commentator? He's, let's say it's. No, he's like, he like dresses up, I think, as Justin Bieber. Like he was like fan, fan, I think as Justin Bieber like he was like fan fan like I gotta live for that actually okay I gotta take it back if that's a tea I just

thought he was like cashing in on it but if he's like that I'm like oh cool I guess no I think he's been talking about Taylor for a minute and like really liking her um maybe yeah he's just into young pop culture I don't know maybe that's not weird he's definitely into that because I mean his whole podcast is BFFs but I always thought his shtick was like I don't know. Maybe that's not weird. Well, he's definitely into that because, I mean, his whole podcast is BFFs with really young people. But I always thought his shtick was like, I don't know anything. I'm an old guy and I'm with these young people trying to educate me. I don't think that's the – I think that's just the reality of who he is. But now he's into all this young pop culture.

But I think he really wants to. Like, he doesn't want to be perceived as that. He just comes off as that. As older or just – But, yeah, like, I think he really wants to hang out with those young people and be part of the young culture. Right. Yeah.

I guess when you're like, don't have like not married enough kids and stuff, you're just kind of more young at heart. Maybe. They just had the Montana boys on. So random. Did you see that? No. I just saw clips of it.

Dave did not look like he was having it with them. Do you know them? I, yeah. Because of. Kristen. Me too. That's the only reason. I mean, they didn't add much to the conversation. so I guess I understood why he was like annoyed with them.

But anyways. Is their thing just like that they're cute? Literally. Okay. That's what I figured. Because they also – I saw Kristen talk to them on their podcast and like even the one she's dating like has – like does not a lot of personality. You know? And they're very good looking.

They are very good looking. But it is crazy. I don't know who I was thinking about this with, like these people who are just so good looking um don't need a personality which is like weird because a lot of good looking people do have really good personalities obviously like alex earl has a great personality but um yeah you like see hear them talking you're like oh my god they really give nothing yeah you know what's funny i was thinking about this the other day too i think i was just just thinking like, oh my god, if I was like just so hot. You know what I mean?

But then I was like, you know what? This is why actually. Because I was looking back at my old like Taylor photos and I was like, wow. It was like so – I was like a big boy. Oh, I saw the ones you posted, the little collage of you like proof I was a fan from the beginning. I know. Like I was so annoying since like literally I was like 14 years old. It was cute.

I was like, hey, myself. And I was like, oh my god. I was just like so large. But myself and I was like oh my god I was just like so large but I'm like you know what I would not take it back at all because I was thinking I was like the alternative timeline where I was just like hot you know yeah but I'm like and I just wouldn't like I would never have had a personality I think I would have just like rested on being hot being like bigger I think was like my driving factor to like have a good work ethic and like really prove myself and like get good grades and like intern and work and, you know. So I would not be where I am today if I wasn't large.

Amen. And I think that's a big thing with a lot of big people is like you kind of have to overcompensate to be something different or special. I agree. I agree. I still feel like that too. And sometimes even I'm like, oh my God, if I skin any, I'll be like everyone else. And then whatever.

It's like, I don't know. Yeah. I feel like it kind of makes me me. Yeah. My fatness makes me me. That's how I am right now. Like, you know what? I can appreciate it.

Because we do talk badly about ourselves a lot lately. Right, right. We do. I need to stop. Even on Patreon, I was like, you need to chill. I was like, okay, you're right. Me just being so. But yeah. But yeah. We wouldn. I need to stop. Even on Patreon, I was like, you need to chill. I was like, okay, you're right. Me just being so – but yeah, but yeah. We wouldn't be where we were today because it does set us – I don't know.

It drives you. It also makes you just have a personality. It's so weird to say. It is weird. It is weird. No, but I know what you mean because just good-looking people like you look up the hills. I haven't watched it, but when Heidi was on, i was watching a couple episodes and i was just like oh they really talk about nothing and like so dry the way they talk and i like i guess you don't really need

to be different i tried so hard to be different and quirky and funny and i guess it like just becomes your personality but it's like yeah and it's even like looking at all like the it like tiktok boys and like looking at their content and like they're very successful like no shade but it's like all they do is just like oh like let me get dressed and like they start off in their undies or they start in a towel and then they smile and it's like a it's a popular song that they're doing it to and then it's like oh let me jump and have my like my schlong like bounce a little bit and that's it works like tiktok wow okay that's crazy they're getting away with that because i get banned for like a bikini patriarchy yeah it is crazy that's it works like tiktok wow okay that's crazy they're getting away with that because i get banned for like a bikini patriarchy yeah it is crazy that's wild yeah and uh even like

remember that one trend where it's like the silhouette right like the red light or whatever and it was like you could see things like bouncing around and stuff crazy and that's what they do and like it works it gets some views and money and stuff but like you, you know, where is the – Where is it going to go? Yeah. Yeah. And it is true. Like I watched – I've seen so many – it's funny we're talking about this in Glam because the Glam people I've known for like 15 years.

And like we used to see all those girls on Instagram that were like Instagram models were like the big thing back in the day. And then like where are they now? And you go and they're like still kind of doing the same thing but they're just like not popping. And I'm like, wow, they really never – they still look really great. They still look like they did when they were 20. But it's like they never – they're still doing like the bikinis and the

you know the click baiting and all that stuff and I was like wow that's really crazy you don't like evolve but yeah I mean if you're like so hot but then you get like the Kim Kardashian's where it's just like you're so hot and then you do so much stuff and then you become this like billionaire you know yeah so I think if you can have the personality yeah right get all of it together um yeah I don't know um they get good guests on that BFFs podcast and it together. Yeah, I don't know. They get good guests on that BFFs podcast. And I like Dave. I don't know if I didn't come across Jade.

I really do like him. But I just thought it was kind of weird. But then maybe it's like a shtick too. Like you said, maybe like, you know, kind of like me being like, I like Jacob Elordi. Like whoever's like the in thing. You know what I mean? Okay, I like that person too. Did you hear the reason Gypsy Rose got divorced?

Oh, yeah. The snoring and the food hoarding. The food hoarding. What? That is key actually. And did you see the little clip from their upcoming season two of their show? No. She's like in the bed. It's like when they're first coming back when she's first out of prison and he's like trying to be sexy with her. And she's like, I just want to be. And he was like eating this thing of French fries and he was still trying to like seduce her or whatever. And then it said that she basically, they would always, when they were shooting the show, they'd always go out to eat and the crew would be providing food for them.

And he would just keep all, he wouldn't eat like his meal. He would just keep all the leftovers in the thing. He'd eat half of it and keep the leftovers. And she was like throwing it out because it would be in there for like weeks, like three or four weeks. And then he'd get really mad. He's like, why are you throwing out my food? And she'd be like, I didn't know you were going to eat that. He's like, I was going to eat that. And then I guess it was like a problem. I guess it became this like thing. And that's why she divorced him. She was just like, I just couldn't handle the food hoarding. And I was like, is that the real reason? But he did seem like he was smothering her. I saw the little clip and like, she just got out of prison, right? She's just adjusting to like freedom in this world,

you know? And he's just like trying to like, oh, do you want it to surprise while she's on the bed? And she's like, no, I just kind of want to be. And he's like eating his French fries and whatever. And he's just like, Oh, I think I want to let you, I won't let you be when you look like that. Like it was really sexual. And I was like, Oh, like you could kind of tell the smothering part. Cause I kind of felt bad for him. And I was kind of like, okay, you kind of let this girl adjust. You know what I mean? Like, it just seemed like a lot. And you could kind of tell in their interviews when she was like, that D side, like they were like, maybe they were like overtly sexual and she was like not feeling it really all the way. Cause she's like, I just got out of prison.

Like this is a lot. What's better than a well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue that was carefully selected by an Instacart shopper and delivered to your door. A well-marbled ribeye you ordered without even leaving the kiddie pool. Whatever groceries your summer calls for, Instacart has you covered. Download the Instacart app and enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Why do fintechs like Float choose Visa? As a more trusted, more secure payments network, I don't know. Oh, she's in her tortured post department era too.

She is. She's in the tortured... In... Ex-felon? I don't know. ex-felon. I don't know. Ex-felon department. The tortured. Yeah, all of it.

I feel bad for her. I feel bad. But hey, they're getting that coin. I know. Ironic because she also has a song called Fresh Out the Slammer. And that's very gypsy. Who's that about? Is it about gypsy?

Could you imagine? It's very gypsy coded. Really? Yeah. What's it about? It's about getting out of her long-term relationship and then rebounding with someone else so it's very very very very very very gypsy did you see uh did you cry when you listen to it i only i got teary-eyed because i just love her so

much and i think that's why i get emotional yeah wow i just like love her so much and she's like so famous that it makes me anxious because like she's just so big and it's like are you okay it's just hard to like have an opinion about her because like i don't know like i said it's just so divisive like some people hate when we talk about her some people love when we talk about her but it's like what can you do she's the she's the hot topic she is the hot topic right now so it makes sense yeah and she's been a hot topic for like a year it's just coincidental that we did this podcast when she started like being all over the place yeah it girl for sure yeah i don't know if that was a coincidence i think we are part of what you think so just trish you're welcome taylor

please come on to show your love and support i mean she is she's kind of a girl and spoiler alert for drag race finale if you haven't watched i don't know fast forward two minutes ahead um rupaul's drag race finale was last night nymphia win one what did you think like i was okay i always thought sephira was gonna win so it's kind of weird so like the lip syncs right this is what i got like canceled for before the lip sync for your lives and the and last night when i was lip sync for the win is it really based on the lip syncs or it's based on the whole season? I think it depends. It's like so circumstantial.

Like I think when it was like Morphine versus Safira when Morphine was in the bottom two. When was that? Like two weeks ago? It was like kind of track record because I think Morphine was kind of a better lip syncer in that moment. But Safira was not bad at all she was still really good right but sephira's track record is just like so amazing that like obviously morphine would be the one to go like they can't let sephira go right now but when it came down to like nymphia sephira i fully thought sephira was gonna win like fully fully me too yeah but the nymphia's track record was kind of equal ish to sephira's i think nymphaea had

three wins zero bottoms and then sephira had four wins one bottom so that kind of equals out right that's true and then at the finale i think the their entrance looks for the finale nymphaea's was better than sephira's killed it crushed it oh my god i was gagged i was like man i was so good so good i was like crying i almost cried i was like that is beautiful it's like a pageant it's like miss usa like she won yeah but then the lip sync with the original songs i think sephira was the best like hands down was that them singing no which i don't like when it's not them singing i was like what is this song it's like a weird generic song no one's heard of and it's like that's what i was wondering too because plain james was about like the bodysuit and i don't know if they have like input as to what they want their songs about

i don't think so because i feel like plain james should have been like oh yeah i'm the villain i'm i'm gonna clock everyone i mean yeah shady i'm hot yeah that would have been more like a plain james like brand because the bodysuit it just wasn't it was fun but it was it could have been so much like i was like is that her thing is that her brand i guess but i never like put two and two together like i don't see her i think bodysuit i think like oh she was just like mean and fun and shady you know yeah like hot burger finger boobs like yeah i think she should have played into that more but i don't know how much say she has in the songs but i like when they mix like their voices

in there like even if they're not singers, they always make them sound good. Yeah, and Zafira is a singer because she had a little opera thing in hers. And I was like, okay, but is that her? It doesn't sound like her. I know. I think they should just have them sing. I don't like when they get weird voices. Yeah, that was weird.

I didn't like it. I was, like, confused in all those. I was like, not it. They've done that before. Like, Bob did the Drag Queen season. Like, they had songs where, like, other people sang. I think Lizzo used to do, like, the recording. season like they had songs where like other people sang i think lizzo used to do like the the really recording yeah it sounded yeah like someone just like saying like

you know the people do like the love is blind soundtrack or something they just come and sing these songs yeah it was weird yeah and then her like their final lip sync nymphia was like amazing sir it was kind of mad that was my only note it was kind of messy like because there was so much on the floor after nymphia it was like i'm like maybe like kick it to the side or something there was so much on the ground that was my only note but nymphia's was really good i think technically nymphia's like lip sync was better so then yeah at that point i think nymphia kind of won you know that's what i thought i mean obviously her finale performance is one because all around like i live for sophia but i thought her finale outfits

like just wasn't they didn't like fit her you know like they weren't body fitting like her other ones were like the wigs were different i just thought she was like i'm like did she just she's over it she's like i'm just done that's what it was kind of weird because it was just bulky like usually it's like um she's always like big proportions but it it's like. Fitted. Yeah. This was like square and boxy and it was weird. But I fully went in thinking Sofia was hands down going to win. Yeah. But I think Nufia kind of earned it. If either one of them won, I think it would have made sense.

Yeah. You can kind of justify either. But I think it's cool that they finally have like an East Asian winner because. Yeah. That's been a long time coming for. It never, it's never happened, right? It's the first one. No, the only Asian winner in general, I a long time coming for – It's never happened, right? It's the first one? No, the only Asian winner in general I believe was Raja season two I think.

But as far as like East Asian, Nymphia is the first. Yeah. No, it was really – and she was so beautiful. Oh my god. Like her outfits were amazing and the finale was amazing because of her for sure. Even playing Jaina, I thought she was going to be more glamorous. She had the dark hair and I was like, oh, I just think of her for sure. Even playing Jane, I thought she was going to be more glamorous, you know. She had the dark hair and I was like,

I just think of her as like a blonde. Oh, yeah. You know, she was great though. I love, love, love. It was like, Safiya's question from Rue was like, how is drag going to impact the world? Like, what do you think drag needs

like politically right now? It was so like Miss USA and then playing Jane was like, now why don't you serve him, mama? Like, it was like. Yeah, him mama so unserious about all of it like Jesus the difference they definitely were like running home the political

like you know vote and all that stuff but then Plain Jane was just like I'm serving body and like burger finger and then I'm like the difference was crazy I kind of love I like that she keeps it light hearted she always has you know like her book and stuff yeah I like that then they it lighthearted. She always has. You know, like her book and stuff. Yeah, I like that. Then they had the random like Elvira honor and I was like, that's so random in here.

I think they have been doing that lately where they honor someone who's just been like a drag race like staple or like influence. I think they did it last year with a designer. I forget. Maybe Bob Mackie last year. Oh, yeah, yeah. I kind of remember that. So I think they've been doing that lately. It was good. I'm sad it's over. I'm like, now what do we watch? I know. Maybe Bob Mackie last year. Oh, yeah, yeah. I can't remember that. So I think they've been doing that lately.

It was good. I'm sad it's over. I'm like, now what do we watch? I know. Literally. I'm like, what show is on now? I think Baby Reindeer is the new hit. What is that?

It's on Netflix. Make sure to look it up. I want to watch it so bad. Like, it just came out. It's about a comedian who has, like, a stalker. And it's, like, all over my TikTok. And everyone's like, it's so disturbing. But the clip i saw looked kind of like crazy it's like a middle-aged woman trying to like stalk this like bartender who's also a comedian um do you see it netflix reindeer

you are right baby reindeer baby reindeer but everyone's saying it's like the show to watch right now it looks kind of dark maybe but i kind of like shows about stalkers like that's one thing but i guess it's like real. I guess it's like based real. Dealing with a female stalker, a man is forced to face a dark, buried trauma. Trauma. I think they're like Scottish or Irish or English or something. They all have accents in it.

And the lady looked kind of funny, the stalker. Like that's what I'm saying. I didn't think it was like a serious one because I saw her at the bar. And the person that wrote it, wrote it based on his own personal experience. Yeah, that's what I heard. It's not the actor playing it, right? I knew it was based on a real thing, but I thought, is he playing in it too?

No, I don't think so. Oh, okay. Yeah, a lot of people, it's been all over my TikTok FYP because I was like, we're so out of shows to watch. And I was like, okay, maybe this will be the next one. I don't know.

What else do we watch? We watch, oh, Lopez vs. Lopez. Shout lopez versus lopez shout out love that show i love that show it's so funny i want to be on it they always have tiktokers on it and i'm like oh god i want to be on that show sabrina carpenter at coachella we're we're wearing our coachella outfits next week i know we're gonna be like two weeks behind but the shirt the shirt and the outfit didn't come yet and we it'll be the following we just didn't want to. And it'll be the following week. No, we just didn't want to spoil it. We wanted people at Coachella to see it first.

Well, right. Well, we're cosplaying people at Coachella. So they definitely already have seen it. I sent it to you. You never replied to it. I'm like, I sent you pictures. That's what it was. Yeah, you didn't reply.

You just sent me a random picture. Babe, it was a guy. Why would I just send you a random guy? And I thought, I think I'm not supposed to. I think this is for somebody else, the picture. You sent it to me by mistake. Well, off my texting. It was so weird.

It didn't look like cosplay. I was like, what is this? I was going to ask you, but we were, I think, in the middle of the interview or something. I didn't send it in the middle of an interview. I wasn't like, here's the outfit. When I saw it, that's when it was. But I'm like. But then I sent you the girl version too.

So I'm like, okay, this is our couple cosplay. There was a boy and a girl. First first of all there was not even one word with those pictures there was just three pictures three pictures right and when i saw that one of them is like blurry doesn't make sense the other one i mean none of it makes sense when you show the camera let them know if that makes sense to you i'm like this this is what i see i just see three pictures click on why don't you click on the photo I will so that's all I see there's no text okay and then

there's this guy that I thought probably committed a crime and you're sending me this oh my god you don't know who that is maybe you meant to send it to your mom or something

what that's true we do from this I'm supposed to know who it is okay then go to the next one because I was like okay that's a weird one of him

okay go to that one okay so now I see him like having to go to pee or something which is probably the moment they realize who committed the crime okay then i didn't hear from you so i was like well let me send you another one i see this blurry picture it's blurry there's not the focus and i'm like what is going on like what is going on how is this even a cosplay and you didn't write back anything to me i was like dang okay i put so much work into finding all

these outfits and i was so annoyed that you didn't reply. This is not an outfit. This is just a... Well, you're wearing it next week. It's not. It's Versace tank. It's a wife beater with... It's a Versace tank with Burberry shorts and a silk scarf.

How am I going to... We're getting that exact outfit. I found it online. And then hers says Jesus was a carpenter. And I was like, I thought you'd appreciate that and have a pink shirt. It's too blurry. I couldn't read it. Oh pink shirt. It's too blurry. I couldn't read it. Oh, my gosh.

It was so blurry. I couldn't read it. If I could read it, at least maybe I would have picked up on it. Because her song is trending on TikTok right now, too. And so I'm like, okay, I want to. How does it go? It's like the little, it's the one where Sean's like a little baby. Do you know what I'm talking about?

The espresso one? Yeah. It's like, oh, I'm working late because I'm a singer. I'm working late. Oh, yeah. Because I'm a singer. I'm a singer. Thank you. I couldn't think. I love that one. That's like, oh, I'm working late because I'm a singer. I'm working late. Oh, yeah. Because I'm a singer. Thank you. I couldn't think.

I love that one. That's like my favorite. He looks so cute. Wrap down my finger. Yeah, that's what we're going to do. The TikTok clip for her. And her outro. Did you hear it last night?

Oh, yeah. He's drinking my bath water like red wine. Coachella, I'll see you in a headline. And then the first line was like made his knees so weak and now he spreads mine I was like the bath water one was so good that's the caption I'm gonna get her photos

and that's our caption drinking my bath water like it's red wine I hope she sees it she'll live for that I was she I'm so obsessed with her now it's like so weird cause like I don't know like I always thought she was cute on the air as to her and like before I really did I used to watch that girl's girl meets world and i thought okay like she's like a little kid i was just thinking of her as a little kid what memory unlocked i sat next to her dead ass next to her and danielle fishel who played who was also in girl yeah

i sat next to her at the harry styles concert what oh my god the the greek i know yes i totally forgot about that i literally sat next to her she was so nice what do you talk to her yeah my friend knew her at the time i don't think they still it was when she was like obviously like not as famous right so my friend that i was with at the harry concert knew her so we talked a little bit um what did you say do you remember um she just introduced me and they were like oh like, oh, hey, good to see you. It's like, oh, this is Oscar. Wow. Yeah.

She was so cool. She's so pretty and petite and disgorged. And I ordered the blush she wears. She has a Makeup by Mario blush that she talked about. And I was like, okay, I'm going to wear that blush. I'm going to wear a wig. I'm going to get my bangs, my shirt. I have the Target shoes because at Target they were selling the shoes that she had on tour.

Oh, my God. Yeah, the slam the door one. Slam the door. Yeah. So I was like – everyone was getting those from Target and I bought them. But I was like, I'm not going to wear these and now I have a chance to wear them. So if you want to join in on the Coachella cosplay or Sabrina cosplay or whatever, we'll do it next week. Yeah, who can I be from Coachella?

You can be Sabrina too. The shirt took for a long time to get in. I should have taken one more. I can maybe be – I was going say maybe billy eilish because she always wears big clothes i feel like that's easy to you always wear fitted clothes who would you be um hmm lana but lana's wearing such like cute little baby doll dresses now coachella too i mean yeah billy eilish is i don't know what she wore so i don't know i want to say it could be like taylor when she was like she had like that um travis kelsey hat but that hat freaking sold out the new heights one they always do when you have

to go find that would be cute though i would taylor it she also just wore like a black like outfit but then like the new heights shirt oh but she wore it backwards so i can maybe fake it yeah the green hat backwards will this be three weeks late to the coachella class literally i was like okay that's kind of. I just really want to do it. I was like, oh, man. And I kind of love Supercarpenter. I love Barry Keoghan. And then she did that outro.

And I was like, I'm going to love it. I mean, that was a sexual outro. That was. I love how she's in her bag, though. Because, like, she's obviously been around for so long. But I think, like, the sex kitten vibe just, like, fits her so well. Oh, yeah. The Skims campaign.

Yeah. I ordered Sweet Tooth Perfume today from JCPenney. Yeah, I'm so excited. I wonder what it smells like. Isn't it like caramel or something? I have no idea. It looks like a pink chocolate bar. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to take it.

Like, I just see it all over TikTok. And I'm really becoming obsessed with her at the moment. I love her. She's still in her bag right now. And I'm just like fully living for it. I love her too. She has a drink at Alfred's this week. But there's not Alfred's super close to us.

I know. I saw it. And then I also thought, like like I probably can't drink anything. I always feel like all those drinks you can't drink anything pregnant. Yeah. Because it was like literally like tea, latte. And it's only for the weekend too. Yeah.

And Alfred's is kind of far. Because I was like, ooh, maybe I'll try it. Well, we could have driven it. And if I wasn't pregnant, I love driving in for those kind of things. Because there's – oh, the one on Melrose. It's so funny. Every time we went to the one on Melrose, like there's always paparazzi out there. Like that's the only place they have paparazzi. So I remember when we did Sad Boy, I was like, if we want to get paparazzi, we got to go to Alfred one on Melrose, there's always paparazzi out there. That's the only place we get paparazzi. Really? Yeah. So I remember when we did Sad Boy, I was

like, if we want to get paparazzi, we got to go to Alfred's on Melrose because they're out there. Hollywood Fix, all that stuff. They're just like, hang out there. It's actually so crazy. Because I remember I did a video with Ryland and it was like, he called the paparazzi to come, but he only called one person. But then the three other actual, I don't want to say actual, they're like on their iPhones these days. It's like not anything. But they were out and they were paping us. And I was like, oh, that's the place to go. But definitely not now that I'm pregnant. It's too much to walk over there.

I love Sabrina. I had to give a shout out to her. Oh, I also have to do a shout out. I forgot. Because I was so, so happy yesterday. Like leaving and then hearing that it was like the girls who helped us get Ted. And I was like, wow, I love girls. I love, love, love girls.

I love having a girl audience. Who would not want a girl audience? Anyone who doesn't want a girl audience is stupid. Girls are so fun. Yes. Thank, amen. Snap,

snap, snap, snap, spill. Shout out to the girls. Yes. I, and I actually DM'd her and then actually she,

I think I followed her and then she DM'd me and then she's like, oh, how was it? I hope, because we, do we talk, we talked to that. You got your dream guest yesterday,

kind of. Yeah. Oh yeah. And then just for context, so, cause I thought it was David Alvarez who made Ted respond to the DMs. Turns out he just had a lot of girlfriends who DMed him. Yeah. You have to go on Just Trish.

He said he had like two or three. Three. Yeah. It was like, oh, my God. Did you see this clip? And I was like, that's amazing. And I DMed the girl. And I was just like, thank you.

Thank you so much. It's like literally so nice. Like, you're such a girl's girl. That's like so cool. And then I told her, he showed us her singing and she's so talented. And I was just like so excited. But it really is. Girls really do make – and I've noticed that with everything. Like even business now and stuff like that, I've always like – the girls just make it happen. All the agents I met at CAA are pretty much all girls. There was like one guy, gay guy. You know what I mean? So it's like really those are the people that get you and like know you. You know what I mean? So it's like, really, those are the people that get you

and like, know you, you know what I mean? It's like, anytime I've dealt with like men managers, they just don't get it. It never works out. But like the girls, they like get it, you know? And that's why you really just got to be a girl's girl. So it took me a while to get there, but it's like, honestly, it's so much better. It's so much nicer. It's like, they get it. And it's like, that's who you need to connect with. I love it. Every girl – like every viewer I've met has been a girl like in public or whatever and they're always just so cool. Like they're so pretty and fun and they have like cool style and they're funny and they're so smart.

I'm like I just love girls. I love that girls are the ones that are like pulling all the strings. Even like when I look at like haters, I'm like, God, they're mostly been guys. Like I saw a girl yesterday. It's like, you know, hater love Trisha Paytas. Like you got to respect her for like all the life she's led and it's like what like you know she's just been so she was so cool like she wasn't even like a super fan or anything she's just like you know you gotta give it to her she's kind of whatever

and I was like I just like love girls it's always like guys that are like the haters you know what I mean yeah I don't want a girl audience girl audience is where it's at I couldn't imagine like not having girls listen and watch. I love girls. I love feminism. I was so leaving. I was like, wow, girls are where it's at. It's funny. It was like a straight guy here, but the takeaway was girls are.

Yeah, because that's what he was given. He was very much like, okay, by the third girl sending me this clip, I was like, I guess I should, because he was kind of, I don't know, you know, Trisha Paytas is like, I don't know. And it's so true. And I think, and when I met Jake and Jake for the first time, Jake Weber and Johnny, he had said the same thing. He's like, just so many girls in his life were just like, oh my God, you have to clap. Because it was so random. He tweeted me in like December when he was like blowing up to do a mukbang. I was like,

and he didn't clap with people. I was like, this is so random that you like wanted to clap. And he's like, literally every girl I know is like obsessed with you. I was like, oh, shout out girls. Shout out girls. We love you. Yeah. It it's actually amazing and I love that they have that influence too you know on like a guy to be like you need to go on there and then the guys listen

the ones who listen are the smart ones those are the good guys yeah and it was it was a great day and he was a great guest I even told her

I was like you know I was like hesitant for it I was like oh my god he ended up being like literally one of the best guests that we've had yeah so funny

so sweet you guys look so much like each other oh my god I felt so little next to him yeah he was tall most of the thing the best guests that we had. Yeah, so funny, so sweet. You guys looked so much like each other. Oh, my God. I felt so little next to him. Yeah, he was tall. Most of the thing when he came out of the car, he's just like, oh, he's like really tall.

He's a big boy. You don't expect that, but he was funny. And Moses was laughing the whole time, which I knew was funny because, you know, it was definitely a different vibe, but it was good. Yeah, he's really entertaining. Yeah, he was funny and nice and sweet. And yeah, we kind of stopped, really. I was just, at one point, I was like, you know what?

I had to pee. I was like, oh, no. I probably could have kept going, but I, you know. More than that. Like, that was the longest guest episode we recorded. Ever. And, you know, when someone leaves to pee, especially, like, even if it's just, like, watching TV, as soon as you get up to, then that's when people are like, oh, we should take off. It's like, if I have to go pee,

then people are like, oh, we should head home. And I'm like, I knew if I didn't get up to pee, they wouldn't want to leave. So that's why it's like, same thing with the guests. Like if you, if I had to go pee in the middle of it, it would be like, okay, we need to wrap it up. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like you killed the vibe. So it was great and wonderful. Yeah. So we did get our dream guest yesterday. Well, technically your dream. I've had my dream guest, Donny Osmond. This is Oscar's dream guest, which is amazing. It flowed really perfectly and great. But you might not see it for like a month.

Because people always ask like the Tara one too. Like I did a TikTok with Tara and everyone's just like, when's the Tara? And it came out like five weeks later because we're like stocking up. And we're doing a lot right now. So we're filming this a couple days early. We filmed Ted. We've filmed Brooke. We have Pookie Mane, Dr. Drew, Meredith.

We have like so many great guests coming up. But we're like kind of piling them up because I really feel my due date is like three weeks away. But in my heart of hearts, I just know this baby is coming like today. Like I really do feel it. I don't know how many more – like it would be great if – this is my ideal situation, right? It's like my water breaks right after a hot topic, right? I'm glam. I can go, you if, this is my ideal situation, right? Is like my water breaks right after a hot topic, right? I'm glam. I can go, you know, do my C-section. Yeah. I'll get the cute photos because I was just not feeling it last time. I was not cute. Get the cute photos. And

then we have a week to recover and I can come back for like an hour and give you guys an update on the next hot topics next Monday. So we're not missing a hot topics. But, you know, I will take obviously time off and filming guest episodes and stuff they always like take up time and you know also like that so we're filming we have probably like maybe 12 maybe 10 guest episodes like ready to go in the case that it does happen and then even after the birth obviously I'm not gonna be like sitting here for like three hours with the guests I want to give my all to them I don't want to be like oh my god I'm bleeding in my diaper so I feel like it could be coming any day like literally it's so. I'm having my Kourtney Kardashian moment in my

pajamas just showing out my, did you, you watched that episode? And then Penelope's like, it's a little braggy. Just have yours. I feel very much like that. Like everything's covered except your big belly, but you guys liked it last time. So thank you. And I only have it for a little while longer, but I, oh my gosh, like I really feel like I have, like I think I have Braxton Hicks, which is like fake contractions at night. Cause like last night too, I had crazy, it feels like period cramps where I feel like it could happen. My water broke last time. So I have a feeling it's going to happen. I don't know why at night. And I feel like it's going to happen at night. So I'm like, I hope not because it's like the worst, you know, you have to like find, you

know, make sure everyone comes and Malibu's taken care of and stuff like that. But, um, I feel like it could be any day, truly any day. And I know my mom and you, I think I'm like crazy. Cause it's like, we're three weeks out, but I, I feel the baby's like pressure. When I squat, I, you can feel like the head it's like pressured on your butthole. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's there, it's happening. Um, and that's how I felt about a week before labor. So I think it's coming soon. I don't know. We have three more guests.

I don't think you're crazy. I think so. I think three weeks earlier at least, if not two weeks. So we're thinking definitely before Mother's Day. Because just your symptoms have been the symptoms you had at the end of the pregnancy before the baby came. The symptoms have been crazy. I can't move. I can't breathe. symptoms have been really crazy i can't move i can't breathe i'm literally like literally can't move like i just have like a limp on both sides now of my hips like it's very weird and very odd and that's how it was like towards the end so we're trying to get through three more interviews and i hope two more hot

topics at least because i have looks for two more hot topics i have this winter carpenter one and i have a mega box one so i'm hoping to get through two more weeks. You might end up with that look on the birth. Yeah, right. Sabrina Carpenter and Barry Keoghan come into the hospital just dressed in your Burberry shorts. Oh my God.

Low-key manifesting. That would be everything. That's a story. He's just in there with his Burberry scarf around his head. Anyway, I need to wear a mask, so. Do you? Yeah, in the operation room. Oh, in the operation room.

Or just in hospitals in general? Well, now it's optional, but definitely operation room. Everything. The head thing. You know, like I was fully covered and everything. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. That makes sense, considering my guts are out and open and displayed.

Do you have like a content like plan for it i was thinking about that like do you know what your tiktok was gonna be no no it's so funny i i should and before i kind of did right you're kind of like no you had to think like no i what we did last time is just kind of like we just filmed because like we just ended up using clips like it is kind of hard to like it is crazy i guess they they're planned C-sections or planned whatever. When people are in like the hospital room and they're doing TikToks like waiting for the baby. Iconic. I wish that would happen because we have a scheduled C-section, but I don't think I'm going to make it to that date because it's like the fact that I might have to go into labor is like that scares me because the contractions are literally like, I literally

thought I was going to die. Like I was screaming at everybody. Like it feels the amount of pressure on the butthole. It feels like the baby's going to come through your butthole. Like that's what it feels like. It's so, and the contractions are crazy. So until you get that epidural, which I don't even remember cause I was in so much pain. Everyone says, oh, the epidural hurts so bad. Don't even remember a giant needle going in my back. I was just like in so much pain. I didn't even know what was happening. Screaming, crying, all of that. Um, so yeah, I don't have a content plan, but I guess we did them. I guess the day after we did the one, my pinned one where it's like, I'm just like you, you're just like me and my boy.

And looking back like Malibu at one day old with that baby's just like trying to like see, and I'm like doing this TikTok, but I was so on drugs still like coming down from fentanyl, literally from my C-section that you're just like, oh my God. I don't know. I guess even me talking to her, I'm just like, maybe. Like, I don't know. I was so out of it. No, but that was so cute.

Because, you know, Melody was like, she had that little, like, really gentle cry. And then Trisha started talking and she stopped crying. And they were just, you know, they were feeling their faces against each other. Yeah, it's cute. No, it was great. I mean, you definitely should. It has nothing to do with the filming that was the moment and that no no for sure i guess it's just like you're

i was so out of it because i was still like and for good bank i just hope i'm telling you most i hope i'm still as out of it before because i really you know you're getting cut open you're all this trauma is happening so you kind of don't know um it's all like a blur for sure but yeah we didn't i only filmed that one tiktok because it's like i was so out of it i was sleeping. I was like, I don't know. But thank God you had like the video. Like you must have been filming the video. Cause I don't even remember being like film this, you know, except for that one TikTok I did. Cause I was thinking like, if I don't get one TikTok when I gave birth, cause everyone has so many. Yeah. And then now we're prepared and because the podcast is like our main thing now, it's like, okay, at least even if we miss like Hot Topics, right. I go into like

labor Sunday or night or something like that i was like at least we could put up like an episode a guest episode or miss one week or whatever you know what i mean um but yeah i feel prepared now because we have so many interviews i i there's three more we really got to do and i really need to do them so i i hope we make it that far or at least through the met gala hot topics you know i feel like. At least that's a big one. Yeah. In my heart, I feel like we'll make it through there. I think she'll come on 5-5 or 5-8 or 5-14 or 5-18. Those are my four guesses. So I don't know. We're not scheduled to like the 20th or something or like the 24th, like somewhere in the 20s. But I'm pretty sure she's coming.

I'm hoping till May at least. I could think like literally now, like this week of the last week of April, because I feel it. It feels just insane. Like I don't even know how to describe it. Like it feels insane. Like I literally, after we do this, I just like go into bed, like really. I mean, I've been doing preparing for guests now, but right after that, I'm like, I have

to go to bed. Like. No, I mean, she's been working so hard, nonstop, every day. Because they're all back to back to back. Back to back. And this literally is going to be your, maybe last week or two weeks. But as a... You know, all I'm saying is like, some people think, you know, pregnant women don't work. Like, she's going to work until the last day that she gives birth.

Yeah. And then we have like two maternity shoots scheduled. I have another one that wants to do like a cover of a magazine before mother's day i was like oh my gosh and i want to do it all so i'm really trying to squeeze it in but i'm like okay hopefully i'm close but i know it's good and we haven't even like i'm like we have to install the car seat because we got a new infant car seat so we have to install that and like um build malibu we have a toddler bed for her so we're like trying to build like there's just like a lot of stuff we still have to do and it's just like okay i don't know when it's gonna happen I mean it happens when it happens but um yeah and you're right I do work a

lot but I do feel so oh my gosh for again those women who are like on their feet like servers cashier people who are like nine months pregnant like they really like deserve like all the tips all the things it's like that's crazy because you're actually like physically on your feet there's no way I could be physically on my feet for eight hours like that's insane like sitting for three hours I'm'm like, oh, okay. That was a lot. That was a lot. But yeah, the people who work, I don't know.

They really should have like pre-maternity leave for like a month before you give birth. You really should like rest before you have like this traumatic birth experience. So I'm hoping make it through next week. And then yeah, hopefully we get those hot topics for the Met Gala. And then, you know, just rest. make it through next week and then yeah, hopefully we get those hot topics for the Met Gala and then just rest. But I've had one day where we rested. Every day has been like an interview since Thursday and we're on Saturday. And we have really good guests and they're all amazing and they're all really good. And I'm just like, oh man. I was trying to squeeze more in May and I'm like,

I just need to chill. Because then also there's going to be like two months where you're still pregnant in the video yeah that's a good point too because I was like oh I'm going to just stack up like 20 and then it's like August and I'm still pregnant and I'm like yeah I mean I'll be able to like sit up I need to sit up I can't just be in bed the entire time I'll have to sit up at some point so

yeah it'll be good I think it's like through Father's Day we kind of have them like planned and so I think that'll be a good time. And I know I'll like want to get back. That's why I'm like in my mind like hot topics. I want to do like an hour because the truth is newborns do sleep so much and it's like, you know, getting an hour of podcasting in will like feel good because the rest of the time then we're off.

We're so lucky. Like we can just literally be off and whatever. And just come downstairs too so I don't have to leave the house. Oh, yeah. Like driving to work, all that stuff. Oh, my God. That would be crazy. So yeah, I'd be so anxious to talk about it.

I know I'm like that person. I think we posted – I posted like the next day when I like gave birth. I was like, I want to post the vlog because I just know I want to talk about it and stuff. So yeah, it feels like a check-in. I also feel like just like leaving for so long. I don't know. It feels like so weird. I don't know.

It's so funny because other podcasts are just like so willy-nilly sometimes i'm like just post like whatever we're so serious we're like every tuesday every thursday even if it's like a little late like my patreon's a little late oh my god oh my god oh my god like i was so stressed but where's the patreon because our audience should know they are our first priority yeah everything we do is everything we do our, our work is all for those moments where we put all the shows on time, on schedule for them. I love it. I love this podcast.

I love it. I love that people are like interested. I don't know. I just like love it. It's just like such a great job and a perfect job and like, yeah. I will take time. I will take time. Like one day a week for an hour

is like, I can do that. It's not like whatever, but we will take time to be with the baby, of course. I know so many people, someone else was telling me the other day, they're like, you need to take at least six weeks. I'm like, my job is just so different than everyone else's. I don't have to like leave the baby. Like you said, it's like right upstairs, have the baby and glam with me. These lights might be a little too bright for the baby. But maybe one day. We've had a lot of Malibu talks. Maybe one day she can come on and say hi.

But – Oh, that would be cute. Very Chaz Bono. On Sunny and Cher, he would be on when he was like three years old. Oh, no. Yeah. And they would come out in matching outfits. Oh, that's cute.

And they would come out. It was really cute. So, yeah. That would be me. Chaz is a good name. I like that. Chaz. Oh, on Patreon, we have to get into Nara Smith.

All the names she didn't use for her baby. Oh my God. Because she has some cute names that everyone was hating, but we'll save that for extended. I love Whimsy Lou. I think that's really cute. Me too. Everyone was hitting on Whimsy and all her other baby name ideas that she didn't use. I was like – Oh, I want to hear them.

I haven't heard them. She has some bingers. Yeah. We'll get into it on the extent. I like honey rumble. I think her son is honey rumble. I love, I like her.

I love those. I like the name she comes up with. People are just like those people who don't like, like cute names, unique names. They're just like, there's no one naming their kids like Jessica or John. I'm sorry to all the Johns and Jessica,

but I'm like, in what world? Yeah. Are we naming our kids? They're always like, they're kind of exposing themselves. They're like, Oh, kids will bully them. I'm like, no, you are the person that would be bullied.

Yeah, you're going to bully them. Like, no. Why would you bully somebody for their name unless that's you? You're the person that would do that. Yeah, people are hating on baby names. Even John and Jessica. I apologize, John and Jessica. Because if you're hating on a baby name, it's just like, what is your problem?

Like, it's a baby. It's like, chill. It's not your baby. Anyways. So, and we It's not your baby. Like, anyways. So, and we love the girls' girls. Someone who's not a feminist or not a girls' girl, Carol Baum. Do you know the name?

Which one? Is this the lady that attacked Sydney Sweeney? Yes. Oh, my God. I had that up right now on my hot topic. Literally. Oh, my God. Same transition. Producer.

Yeah. I was just like, she, quote says sydney sweeney quote is not pretty and quote can't act i was like what a weird thing to say that was like of all things i was like definitely pretty like that's definitely undeniable that this person's pretty and definitely can act because she's in every single freaking movie and TV show in the world. Like, what a weird thing to say. Of all the critiques you could give her. I know, I feel like. Hi there, I'm Ryan Reynolds and I have a list of things I like to have on set. It's just little things like two freshly cracked eggs scrambled with crispy hash brown, sausage crumble, and creamy chipotle sauce from Tim Hortons. From my rider to Tim's's menu try my new scrambled eggs loaded breakfast box

this is also kind of me projecting a little bit but i feel like it's one of those things where it's like you're almost bitter about a girl's success you know what i mean because she sydney kind of blew up very very quickly after euphoria season two because that was kind of like her character season like it all kind of revolved around like her and she took it and ran with it and she said like a lot of success afterwards white lotus and just so many things yeah and she's kind of just been everywhere and she sydney also is like just kind of like that uh she encapsulates like femininity with like in the blonde hair and the boobs and like just like her demeanor so i feel like it's easy for girls the ungirl girls to like want to come for her

but like why what's the point and this lady's also very old like she's producing movies from like the 80s because i had like what i was like what a weird thing because when you're like an that's like the worst look for like an old lady and not to be like ageist or whatever like that but me included it's like i could never like come for someone like alex earl or like cindy sweet because it's like you just look better that you're not like young and beautiful anymore you know what I mean it's like it's because you're attacking the looks it's one thing to be like I don't get it it's not for me it's not my audience but to be like she's not pretty and can't act like that sounds like something like a 20 year old would say that's like jealous of her it's like so weird and the context too is she was

teaching a class yes teaching a class which is even worse yeah because I think they were trying to defend her by saying the context well the only reason she brought it up was because everyone was talking about anyone but you and so we watched it and i didn't get it's like yeah that was like the highest grossing like romantic comedy like ever in like 15 years so it was a weird defense it was a weird thing and like you're teaching a class and that's what you're teaching like you're not like critiquing the acting or the writing because it's not even the acting it's like it would be the writer's fault or something if the script was bad. It's just like so odd and so weird. Yeah.

And then Sydney's team, which I'm very glad because I feel like the thing would be to let it go. But Sydney's team issued a response. We're going to give a comment. And it was, quote, how sad that a woman in the position to share her expertise and experience chooses instead to attack another woman. If that's what she's learned in her decades in the industry and feels is appropriate to teach her students, that's shameful. To unjustly disparage a fellow female producer speaks volumes about Ms. Baum's character.

Yes. Clock that tea, honey. Yes, mama spill. Thank you for spilling. That is, kudos for spilling. That's, and that is the tea.

That's the tea because it's just like, like you said, she's been around for so long she's produced she's successful like what so weird such a weird thing to say yeah and that is also like Courtney Love kind of also came for every like female singer it was like Taylor's uninteresting Beyonce um also like good music but like missed the mark where the cowboy Carter Lana Del Rey needs to evolve she's so boring i'm like jesus like why i guess i'm just playing devil's advocate for the older women they're just trying to keep relevant

you know what i mean like throwing someone under the bus i guess because when's the last time you heard about courtney love right and now everyone's talking about her and that's what i'm saying kind of like almost at some point you might as well be hated to get talked about you don't even yeah you're losing that relevancy game it's just not worth it really though because like it doesn't really get you far it gets you like short-term talked about but like long-term what it's actually maybe they're promoting something like a song or a book maybe that's when you guys start talking the you know what i mean i was thinking about that with my book i'm like all right i'll start spilling tea again when it's like when it's time to promote

the book i don't know it's kind of weird and it is like seems unwarranted. Like so many women, like Lisa Taylor Swift, Beyonce and Lana. Yeah. Just come for everybody that's out right now. There's a lot of like artists and creative people that their whole mission is to define what is good art and dismiss everyone else. So it happens a lot in the art world. People just walk around like, that's not good. That's not good.

So they're just very critical and they try to make themselves feel good by downplaying other genres or other people. That's true. Because like Courtney Love, that's the vibes I get. It's just like everything is bad and it's pop and it's not good. Which is so wild, Courtney Love. Like I don't really know anything about her,

but I'm also like, why? I know she hated Madonna. Oh, didn't Madonna hate her? Didn't they do an interview in like 95 where she was like drunk it was like t t r l it was something mtv like new year's maybe and like madonna was like at the like on the roof yeah with kurt loder and then like courtney love was like at the uh downstairs like heckling her and she threw a shoe at her or something but did she come up at some point and she was like drunk and they're like, get her out of here.

That was wild. I don't know about Miss Love, but. Aw, she probably went through some shit too, but. Yeah, that's he. But also, again, not the look. People do. It's very like Renee Rapp, though. Like now I get, you know, Renee's Rapp's like all these millennial women coming after me. I get that, but no one

was calling her ugly. No one was being like, Renee Rapp's ugly and can't sing. Or maybe they were, like, behind the scenes. I don't know. Yeah, no, for sure. For sure someone's, like, an old lady is, like, attacking your looks. Like, that's just, like, bitterness, jealousy. There's literally no other reason. Because, like, you just don't do that anyways.

But then to do it when you're old and you're critiquing someone and you're also an intellectual and educational person, like, that's so weird. Yeah. I think it is, like, definitely an insecurity thing, too. Even, like, to relate it to myself, I guess. Because I'm, like,

trying to, like, see the other perspective, you know? It's like, okay, like, sometimes when someone brings up, like, a hot, like, cool gay guy, like,

my innate thing is like, oh, like, they're not that cool. You know, they're not that interesting. They're not that funny. But then I'm like, oh, I'm just being, like, insecure.

Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I get it. I get it for sure. funny. But then I'm like, oh, I'm just being like insecure. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I get it. I get it for sure. That's how I always felt with like fat girls like Rebel Wilson and Melissa McCarthy. I was always like, they're not funny. They're like not funny at all.

And then I would see so much Melissa McCarthy hate about how she's like rude on the red carpet. I'd be like, yeah. Yeah. I think Gabby Hanna had a story about her being rude on the red carpet. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

It all comes back to Gabby Hanna at the end of the day. She's also lived a thousand lives. I was like, okay. Excuse me. Yeah. It all comes back to Gabby Hanna at the end of the day. She's also lived a thousand lives. I was like, okay. Yeah. But I mean it just happens. Yeah. I never want to be that person. But that's why I just like really even more consciously now like really try not to hate

on women if it's not necessary – like if it's really just not necessary because otherwise it just looks bitter. Yeah. Unless they're like doing something like again like problematic or crazier yeah i think just like because it's another thing too like people sometimes i get that criticism where it's like oh like oscar would just support like any woman it's like no someone's like just awful yeah like it doesn't matter if they're a woman i I'm like, okay, clock the T. But, you know, if they're – I think if you can like actually see beyond like what is like being put out there. You know, like the Rachel Zegler of it all where it's just like – Yeah. You actually see her and she's like – that means, well, she just like can be a little annoying I guess.

Right. That doesn't mean – it doesn't justify like actual – Yeah. A lot of women just get hate for being annoying and like that is annoying. Yeah. Like it's like, okay, just like let them be annoying. But then we have like Logan Paul who's also getting sued right now. Did you know this?

Oh, he's getting sued? Yeah. Did you hear about it? No. I just saw the baby news. He's having a baby. I didn't know he was getting sued. Oh, yes.

Congratulations. That was everything. I was like, that's exciting. He's getting sued by the baby. What? No. He took a pro bono. No, that's not real.

He's being sued – well, technically Prime Hyd prime hydration's being sued which is his company being sued for having pfos pfos forever chemicals in it and not only do they have forever chemicals i guess it's been tested by the attorney suing that it was found to have three times the amount of PFOS, I guess, PFOS, the amount you should have in any lifetime. So three times the amount you should ever have in your lifetime in one drink. So I guess there's ways to like filter it out in water because it's like can be common sometimes in some bottled waters. Is that the same for phosphate?

Yeah, it's like phosphate, aronic acid. Like it's a lot. I looked it up because I was like, wait, I need to know what this is. And it's like phosphoryl. Do you know what it is? It's so long. But that's still allegedly, right? Because they're alleging it. I think it was confirmed they tested it. I think the lawyer got it tested by scientists that it was tested that it is. And it's not like it's been in bottled water before. I don't even think it's necessarily banned. But it had like three

times the amount. And the person suing, I think, got like leukemia or something. That's alleged after, like it causes cancer. And this person got like cancer from it or something like that. But I think they actually did test it and it did have three times the amount you should ever have in your lifetime. I saw a lawyer talking about it today. It's funny because you remember when the drinks came out, I bought a couple of different ones to test them. And I drank one, I think a couple of different ones to test them. And I drank one. I think it was like a blue bottle.

And after a few sips, I immediately got a headache and I never tried it again because I was just like – Oh, that's so interesting. The way it affected me was so severe that I was just like I'm not even trying ever again any of those. Yeah, I remember. I remember. And my mom too. She like loves like every energy drink and she cannot do the prime. What's it?

It's really long. What's PFfos it contains per and polyfluorocyl substances synthetic chemicals known to have negative health impacts and then it lists independent third-party testing determine the presence of pfos chemicals including significant levels of perf oh my god yeah it lists a lot of chemicals plurifluoro something a lot of plurifluoros yeah perfluoroendocanoic acids it's crazy it was like because i had to look it up too i was just like i knew it sounded bad i was like wait what are they what are forever chemicals what are these

things they can the exposure to p fast can lead to reproductive harm developmental delays in children increased cancer risk reduced immune immune system response interference with body's hormones higher cholesterol levels and obesity risks so yeah i guess it's like like maybe it's not these are all claims still though but just to clarify right it still says claim claims. So alleged claims in their third party studies. Oh, so it's not. But how is that if it's been studied? I don't think it can be until the lawsuit like fully happens and there's like a set

of like something is declared or whatever. It's all still like the claims alleged. Because usually you will have a third party that's not part of any of them testing it. So right now, let's say I make a test, but I can also fake the test or pay off somebody. So there has to be a process. But I guess it's not like

completely banned, this PFAS, right? Like, I mean, it's in some bottled water. It's not completely FDA banned. They just had like three times the amount, allegedly, supposedly, that you could ever have in your lifetime in it. So I guess these people are, someone got cancer or leukemia,

allegedly, from it. They've been working on this lawsuit for a while. Oh, it has? I just thought today. And they're trying to get kind of a class action lawsuit. But yeah, it seems like they started in August 2023. Oh, wow. Doing all those studies. I just think – is it an energy drink?

Is that what it's considered? It's not really. It's like a recovery drink or like a hydration thing, right? Oh, like a Gatorade? I think it's more like that, yeah. It doesn't like give you energy. I think it just like rehydrates. Oh, even weirder that it would be in there.

Because I just think like general rule of thumb, don't drink energy drinks. You know what I mean? It has like antioxidants, electrolytes, vitamins, and then PFOS, allegedly. PFOS, allegedly. That's what this says, yeah. Have you tried it? I've had Prime when Joey did a video on it. Oh, testing like you two?

Yeah, influencing products. What did you think of it? I mean, it just tasted kind of like a gatorade i remember when they released like a new flavor like people were going crazy yeah it was a whole debacle huge i remember i still see big prime trucks driving around all the time like damn they really must be shipping these things yeah target and ralph's huge like there's so many so you think there's probably i'm just like there's no way they could have all this stuff in it i mean they probably have it's a billion dollar company right so like they must have like scientists

and all these people like checking these things like it just seems so odd to me that a big company like that would let something like this happen where it's like three times the amount you should have in your lifetime like it's kind of crazy it seems kind of weird so maybe it's like maybe it's not going anywhere maybe it's not blowing up i just kept seeing it i saw it on my tiktok this lawyer talking about it and i was like oh my god that's kind of crazy. Maybe it's not blowing up. I just kept seeing it. I saw it on my TikTok, this lawyer talking about it. And I was like, oh my God, that's kind of crazy. But no one's talking about it. So maybe it's not a real thing. I guess you could sue anyone for anything. I think they're still building the case.

So they're still trying to get traction and enough people. How is like Red Bull and stuff not been sued in Monster? Because you always hear like deaths related to that, right? Like someone who drank a bunch of Red Bull and they have like a heart attack or something like that. I guess like how can you sue a company? Like how do you know it's a direct relation like a direct correlation from me drinking their product i think kind of like what they're doing like these tests to see like what chemicals are in it i guess but what

is this person drinking monster and red bull you know what if they're drinking other stuff i think that's why they have to do like test the thing directly you know because legally there's certain chemicals that you're allowed to use there's certain chemicals that you're allowed to use uh-huh and and certain combinations that you're allowed to use and as long as you don't you know break any law it doesn't mean it's good for you i mean most of the processed food people eat somebody showed like you know fast food has 250 ingredients in like just having a burger so those ingredients individually are allowed but then how much of each one yeah combination that's what i'm saying mcdonald's could you know allegedly call

you can't cause you cancer you know like who who's to say what caused it right but they don't force you to eat it so you buy like you you have a part in that like how many red bulls do you drink right no i agree that's what i'm saying how can someone sue prime because they're not forcing you to drink it like because i think there's regulations so like if they like have three times the amount that's like allowed then it's like oh they actually broke the law you know what i mean so i think that's why there's all these tests because yeah like what moses was saying it's like you're allowed like a certain amount of each product where it's technically like safe enough you know but then when you are putting more you know it's like you're allowed like a certain amount of each product where it's technically like safe enough, you know. But then when you are putting more, you know.

It's like that Panera drink where that girl like died but they still serve it. Like they still sell it but like behind the counter. And you can even buy like a gallon of it on like – like if you went to like Panera's website to like order for catering or something, you can buy it by the gallon. That's so terrifying. Like I know people like just try it now just to try it for like a challenge on tiktok and i was like i wouldn't even want a sip of that i feel like i would like that sounds so scary did they sue or like because why was that a new story remember that girl like passed away but like did they sue panera i don't know i don't

think so because they still have it i feel like if they were getting sued they would have to take it off they probably just take it off anyways that correlation if they're like it has what did they say like the amount of like four Red Bulls or something in that. That's crazy. Just stay away from those drinks. Those drinks scare me so much. My mom was like obsessed with energy drinks. I'm like, please. Like I know like I eat bad and all this stuff like that, but it's like, this is just one thing that you like don't need. Like, you know, these like chemicals, it's just like so scary. Like Diet Coke, okay, it's bad, but whatever. But like these other ones just like scare me. When I drink Red Bull, my heart like seriously like flutters.

Like I had to stop drinking it. Like it really was like, so I haven't drank it in a while. And it's legal obviously, but I'm just like, oh, I just was not feeling good. I get worried for people who drink it. So maybe just in general, hydrate with Gatorade. We never hear any issues with that. Just water. Just water.

I know. That's the tea right there. When I drink only water during my pregnancy, I feel good i look so good my skin's clear i'm like i'm gonna just keep drinking water only after this i mean if you go if i go to like you know wendy's i'll get a cute sprite or something like that but if most of the time i just drink water it's really the way to go yeah i need to get better about not drinking as much energy drinks because you drink energy drinks all All the time, yeah. Wait, really?

Do we know this? You laughed. You giggled. Did you know? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I think Oscar is the kind of person that pushes himself to the limit and then has to recharge quickly.

Oh, I didn't know you drink energy drinks. And then push again to the limit, recharge quickly. Oh, no. Be careful. I had two today. I'm a friend. I won't say. Not sponsored.

I'm like everyone else. I don't know if I would take a sponsorship for energy drink. We have a drink sponsorship coming up and I'm really excited about it because we actually love it. Not an energy drink. I don't know if I actually would take a brand deal for energy drink because I'm so like against them. I don't know why. Like I'm just so, they scare me so much. Because you hear so many

like heart related problems from people who drink it like young kids. I don't know. But again, it really comes down to the person and how much they drink. Let's say now we're having a road trip and we have to, I don't know, drive at night comes down to the person and how much they drink let's say now we're having a road trip and we have to I don't know

drive at night cross country and I'm tired that's the time to have an energy drink you know what I mean like yeah I'll be wired

I'll feel horrible but I'll be able to do it but I won't drink five a day that's the way the difference is you could just smoke crack it's like the same thing

but that's the regulation it might as well it's like if you're just like whatever i gotta stand i want to get a rest do a bump or something do not no no no not advocating for that either i don't know it's kind of wild um i know i know it's like so weird because i know my family likes them too and i always like make such a complaint about it and they get so annoyed with me and i'm just like i guess who's the one that says time and place time and place and you did it at my birthday dinner oh tati westbrook oh shout out tati time and place you can have one energy i love that you know that time and place there's a lot of things i know against my will just because oscar node says it it. She's on TikTok Live right now.

I saw that she was doing that. She got a lot of viewers, I think. Yeah. I saw her. She was celebrating. What was it? Not a million. Was it a million?

A million. What? Subscribers? Maybe she got a million followers while she was on TikTok Live or something. Usually it's likes. The high number is usually the likes. I think it was that. She should battle Jeffree Star.

Could you imagine? That TikTok Live would be popping the light. I think it was that. She should battle Jeffree Star. Could you imagine? That's your talk live would be pop in that battle. That would be kind of historic. I'd be scared. But it would give us something to talk about so do it actually.

Yes, I would live for it. I live for it so much. I mean it's like the four, five year anniversary of my sister. Is it? Right. Do you know hers? I remember James Charles came out with one May 10thth i don't even remember because that's the first time i went to like

therapy after my breakdown and i went to shane's house and he was like obsessed with this or was it the tati one there was something that happened may 10th it might have been tati because he was like freaking out i remember i went to shane's house because i was like just came back from like a drug overdose and he was just like tati and james and he was like freaking out i was just like what's even happening it was the one where he made the video like oh my god oh my god she's a liar you guys like that one was that i remember saying that live like i watched it really it was so crazy and that's before i met you yeah i think that was the one where she like teamed up with james charles and then like flipped it oh i think the first one was like um it was like shane

jeffrey tati versus james and that was like april because i was right after coachella okay right and then wow that was a fast turnaround oh my god that was so one month it was like oh my god okay so yeah so then at first it was like coachella the the hair gummies and then it was tati jeffrey shane versus james like you did it at my birthday party. And then James apologizes. James, like, was in Australia crying or something afterwards. Is this the one where he comes back with receipts?

Is the Apache? No. At first, it was, like, very, like, Laura Lee, like, the sweatpants. Like, immediate. I think wearing glasses. Yeah. And then I think he took that one down. And then he came back with receipts and like made like shut down all these claims

from like tati everyone was like okay yeah go james and then uh i think tati touched base with james and then they turned yes and she's like i was manipulated by shane dawson yes and she said shane james is going to be in this video with me but i was like no i have to do this alone and then that's when shane was like on what instagram live or snapchat oh my god oh my god she's lying oh my god oh my god that was a whole thing and rylan's like maybe what instagram live or snapchat oh my god oh my god she's lying oh my god oh my god that was the whole thing and rylan's like maybe get off live you hear me turn off the live tea you're like watching tv going live yeah no he was he was stressing and yeah it was i think that was may 10th because that was when i was also going through my thing but he had andrew filming

him watching this all like happen and stuff and i was just like oh he was I think was he supposed to release something like right because like you said he was filming it so I think he was supposed to come back and like right and I want to I want to say like they just were trying to like let it go or he was trying to let it go or something yeah they were just never came out because they were filming I remember like Andrew was over there yeah it was like this whole thing. Yeah. I don't know.

But that was the year the Conspiracy Palette was coming out. So – Was it before? It was before. Did it already came out? No. Oh, really? Conspiracy came out November 1st.

I remember this was 2019. Oh, right. Because it was around like Black Friday. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like right after Halloween. I know it was the day I got fake married in Vegas. So it was like November 1st of 2019.

This was May 2019. Yes, yes, yes, yes. 2019 was wild. It was a wild year.. I know it was the day I got fake married in Vegas. So it was like November 1st of 2019. This was May 2019. Yes, yes, yes. 2019 was wild. It was a wild year. Oh my God. Yeah. So it was before conspiracy. So they probably were freaking out because like if they got canceled, Jeffrey and Shane

right before the conspiracy, which it obviously didn't matter. They made like so much money out there. So much money. But maybe it helped. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes these polarizing things helped it, right? Because the Shane stans were like, we got your back, you know? I need to go back and actually like look at the timeline we talked about doing that for patreon like let's get the

timeline like get it figured out because i'm forgetting so much stuff like yeah because in between how did like itati james like they everyone kind of ended up kind of on top technically right i feel like tati was still doing well james was still doing well and then yeah shane and jeffrey were still like really really really really successful with like conspiracy well tati definitely dropped off somewhere but that was post later yeah yeah so that's what i'm saying sometimes that drama the controversy kind of helps everything you know what i mean like yeah because i don't understand how it all happened because i remember still like like when conspiracy came out I remember trying to go into Morphe and like trying to buy the stuff

like waiting in line but then everything sold out wow they crashed Shopify yeah Shane was freaking out then he's like oh my god the website's not working like what the hell was going on but it would be funny to watch those videos

oh my god yeah watch them back all of those videos oh my god yeah watch them back all of those videos it's it's kind of it is yeah because like it just unlocks the memory because like we all remember it but it just is like wait what i have these weird like flashes like where i was you know i think shane was like crying that shopify was down i remember he's like i don't know what to do i'm so sorry you guys like he was like so upset about it and i was like what a crazy time it was a crazy time. Yeah.

It'd be interesting to see it all now, like you said. Yeah. Because it's so weird. Because all that happened. And I remember, like, I was such, like, a. I don't know. I was a shill. Because I was so easy to market towards.

You was a shill. Like, I would just buy whatever. Because I was still, like, invested. Oh, right. That anything anyone released. Yeah. Easily influenced. I was buying all the Jaclyn Hill.

I didn't even wear, like, eyeshadow. But I was like, oh, I've got to buy the Jaclyn Hill. I was, too was too buying all the palettes and stuff but i'm like what the hell was i doing and it was like whoever was the last one to speak i was like oh you're right you know what i mean of course yeah oh yeah that makes sense yeah and then if you didn't speak it looks sus what the hell was going on it is crazy to think about that time it's just so unserious all of it really yeah it's like not that big of a deal but we also brought down an entire industry like the beauty industry like that was everything was fine like people were just doing talking about it showing their stuff and now and then everyone was just like i don't want to ever see you guys again that's true the beauty community

on youtube definitely just crashed after that i did see see, I think it was Raw Beauty Christina. I just saw her on TikTok literally yesterday. And she, someone's like, I miss the 2016 Makeup Gurus. And she's like, do you? Because we're still here. Yeah, did you see that one? Yeah. I know they say that a lot. They're like, yeah, I mean, we're still doing the same. We're still here. Yeah, I kind of,

I never lived for the beauty community. I didn't really care, but I used to buy the stuff too. Like, they definitely bought like Jaclyn products and stuff like that. She's moving to California. Did you see that? Oh, she is? Yeah. Oh, wow.

They bought a house out here. And her whole family's in Tampa. And it's like kind of wild. And they're like, we're moving out. And she was like so close to her family. And I was like, oh, that's so random. Maybe she needs a fresh start though. Because she's been in Florida for a minute.

She said she was like depressed and drank a lot in that house. And she needed to move. Yeah. And she's friends with Taylor and Taylor Lautner. And they convinced her to move out here. Yeah. Oh, random friendship. But okay. Yeah. She's like, you know, I saw Taylor and Taylor Lautner and taylor lottner and they convinced her to move out here oh yeah i'm random friendship but okay yeah she's like you know i saw taylor and taylor lottner are friends and we were just like let's move out and she said she's moving an hour

away i'm like oh she's coming out here it does sound very that i was like everyone sees like like this like i live like where i live i feel it's just like a fairy tale i'm like i hope not a lot of people out here though i don't want to become an influencer thing but a lot of influencers do live out here um but yeah she's moving i was like oh my god so crazy so random it also this is also very very random but i guess it's related because of what we're talking about but i also randomly saw like a peter mom video and i was like he put joey in the thumbnail so that's what i was like what's going on with joey i was like how could he possibly be in drama i didn't get that far enough in it what because it was long and the first half was like he was talking about James Charles and how like

I guess allegedly like James Charles was gonna do the whole like documentary about like making his palette first um and then like Shane and Jeffrey kind of stole it from him well why could he do it too I mean you can make a documentary on your palate too. That's tea I got. Oh, I think they convinced James not to do it, allegedly. And then Shane and Jeffrey ended up doing that same idea. And then allegedly too, like all the beauty gurus were going to sit down with like Peter and then here for the tea.

Do you remember her? So many of those. She passed away. But I guess they were supposed to do like a big sit down where it was like they like confront each other. And I was like that would have been insane. I think there was something on E they were supposed to do that too. I think Patrick Starr was like involved.

There was supposed to be like a beauty community. I think Manny MUA was on it. It was supposed to be like drama. I don't know if it ever filmed or just never aired or what. How weird. That's interesting. The alternate timeline where that happened. So what was the Joey part of the drama? I didn't get that far. like drama i don't know if it ever filmed or just never aired or what how weird like that's the alternate timeline where that happened so what was the joey part of the drama i didn't get that far why would you click on a video looking for the joey job we need to know because i was on

the elliptical and then i was just done so i'm like okay well you know if he's in the thumbnail is the last thing yeah i mean that's kind of everything that he put joey in the thumbnail kudos i know i need to go back and watch it there were also now I get the timecode thing now we have them obviously but like because there was no timecodes for when the Joey section was so I'm like okay let me just sit through this video but then I never got to the Joey section no timestamps

no oh my god do better we need the timestamps it's so crazy to me that I have a podcast now where I just talk way too much and say like the most outlandish things that like I'm never in the thumbnails of the drama channels anymore but like when I was doing absolutely nothing getting 20,,000 views, I was like every single day like, Trisha does this. Oh my God, her baby.

What was the one with the baby? Oh, when my baby was with, there was like a microphone when she was one month old. Oh my God, she has her sitting up. And I'm just like, now that I actually say like crazy stuff, like they're like, oh, we don't, I just think cause it's like, I'm, I'm popping again. So they're like, we don't want to give her more. I think back then they were just trying to like really just like kick me off the internet or like bury me or something.

And now I never see my picture ever in those. That's, yeah. Unless it's like really slow and then they like someone needs something, then I guess we're kind of in it. But. Maybe like spill sesh. But I think that's like a compliment because spill sesh is popping. You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah. So when she like puts it out, like, I love that. She knows what's up. But I think the other ones, the little more petty ones that never liked me, like, we're not going to get Trisha any attention anymore. And I kind of live for that though. I was kind of like, oh, thank God. Even though like they don't – like whatever.

Shout out to all of them. Love them to all of them. I think Adam and I are cool now. I always try to be cool with Adam now. For no reason. I mean he's not like attacking me or anything. But, you know, we had trauma bonded. I think everyone is pretty –

Mellow. Yeah. Because I think Peter used to be anti. But now Peter kind of turned around a little bit i think i don't know i don't want i think he's just like one of those ones like i'm over trish which is fine did you see xqc is invited to the mess gala are you serious yes he's on the list confirmed you're kidding no it was on dick cerdo your site that you love. Really? Yeah. That he's going to the Met Gala. I couldn't find the other list of like influencers. I said Kendall was the only Kardashian invited, but I couldn't find anything else. Any other influencers confirmed?

That is a gag. Is he in drama? Was he in drama? Or no, he was escaped the drama. XQC? Yeah. I feel like he's always in a little something but it's like i don't know is it ever that serious i don't know he talks about money a lot i saw he was shocked that someone

was making more money than him i'm like okay i don't know another man i've never heard of before oh so he's just like rambles like he's just like a streamer that just talks he doesn't i think so i think he plays games but then he also just kind of like yaps i think and sometimes he you know yapping is the new lore everyone's saying yapper now and yes i like it we love a yapper um i would love to be invited what is it may uh it's may 5th i think this year may 5th or 6th i wonder if any influencers are going remember that one year every influencer was going like james charles went and like yeah addison ray usually goes. But there's some random ones that went.

I'm feeling if you go, you'll be giving birth on the steps going into the. The water breaks. That's very Met Gala. Yeah. I love it. Sleeping Beauty just comes out. That'd be everything. I would love to go, but I don't think we're invited.

Not this year. Maybe next year. Because, yeah, maybe the list was done a little too early this year. Yeah. Or maybe they just knew you were pregnant. So they're like, okay, we'll wait. Yes. We're going to – are we doing like a special Hot Topics? Oh, yeah.

We have to like do like two Hot Topics. Two Hot Topics. I'm down for that. We should get a list. Who's like someone fashionable that could – Oh, for like to help us? Yeah, like a fashion police moment. Who do we know that's fashionable?

Oh, I don't know. I feel like there has to be fashionistas out there. gg gorgeous gg would be really she's probably gonna be there she's probably gonna be right she's everywhere everything she would be really good because we all the bomb with us is like every time we critique like fashion stuff like coachella we're like oh it's cute oh like oh they're so skinny like i wish i was oh i know even our patrons are like stop saying everyone's skinny, you're part of the problem. I literally wrote back to you on that page. I'm like, I'm so sorry.

You're absolutely right. Like, I need to stop. That's so weird that I did that. And it is. It's like, that's all I say. It's like, well, they look good. They're skinny. So, no, it's definitely the worst.

I'm so sorry. The Coachella fashion is lit. Check it out on our Patreon. Patreon.com slash Just Church. We reviewed Coachella outfits. Did you see this? That toy spelling, amidst she can't poop or pee alone so she has her seven-year-old's watch her seven-year-old son watch she's been saying this is another one that she must have a book coming

out because she's been saying some outlandish things lately what why is she saying that she has her own podcast now always the scene of the crime is the podcast um let me let me let me guess it's probably something with like tori as like a pun in there you're so close it's with the last name oh spelling what is it misspelling her she always has like notorious yeah storytelling right yes you know i'm like it was really good she slayedayed, actually. Misspelling. That's her drag name. Yeah, that's a good one, actually. So what did she say?

She can't poop her feet alone. She said, why? She can't or her son can't? She can't. She hasn't pooped her feet alone in the 18 years that she was married to her ex-husband, Dean McDermott. She said that first it was Dean. and then it uh it was like the five kids so now she says her seven-year-old beau still stands there and stares and talks to her while she is pooping and she says i think i function better with people she asked is that codependent and she said okay then cool um and she's just having trouble being happy alone and that's so disgusting that's so

disgusting because like why are you saying that first of all also why are you doing that that has to be like traumatizing it's gonna get that person like a complex like some sort of pooping complex like first of all you don't like how old is the kid seven oh no yeah oh yeah no i mean it's like if it's a baby and you're like watching the baby and they can't go anywhere but it's like a seven-year-old can be alone on his thing that's that's weird and she's because she can't be alone it's not like the kid can't be alone it's like one thing it's like okay the kid can't poop without you in there or something maybe but there is some information that couldn't be like waterboarded out of me and i think that would be it definitely that's what i'm saying when you have kids especially currently it's like maybe 20 years from now it'd be a cute story to tell and no one can take away

your child but it's like right now it's like why are you doing that to him and it's a boy too and it's just um yeah she also said something crazy like that she has because she had five c-sections or I don't know how many kids she has five c-sections something like that that she has the vagina of like a 13 year old or something or something or a five-year-old. You got the exact quote, but it definitely was something like – Some young girl. Yeah. And I was just like, why would you say that?

Why would you want that? Why would you think about that? Like it's so disturbing on so many levels. And I actually really used to love Tori Spelling in her show. Me too. And her books and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

I always kind of like felt for her, liked her. But I was like, this stuff is so disturbing. And it's like weird. And it goes across as like cute because it's like a mom and she's cute and she's like known. But I just feel like it's a little disturbing. And maybe should be looked into because it's like, again, something you just don't need to say. Like, I don't know.

It's kind of. It's just off-putting. I'm like, uh. I hope it's for like attention you know like when you have a you know a new podcast or something come out just be so outlandish yeah like let me just get people talking about me yeah and once again it's an aging lady syndrome as am i you know what i mean i think it is when you get to be a little older and maybe you feel like you're losing relevancy or you need money right like i think i think prez is pretty open about just like I need money so I'm talking about this stuff or whatever when he talked about Charlie.

So it's like, yeah, I guess if you put it that way. But I don't know. Maybe there's just better ways to make money than like airing out your child watching you poop. Remember when she was trying to sue Benihana or something too? Why? I don't – I remember something about her like tripping and falling on the hibachi grill. Stop it.

I swear to God. This was a couple years ago. And she's gonna sue them? Girl. I tried. I don't think it, like, worked out, though. Wait, what? Because it was a while ago.

Maybe she's having, like, serious money issues, and I do feel bad for that. I think she's been open about having, um... So... Poor thing. Jeez. Oh, yeah. 2017 is when it was. She sustained deep second and third degree burns after falling on a hibachi grill on Easter 2014.

Was she drinking? Like how did that even happen? Oh, she reached a settlement. That's wild. Dang. Oh, she had to be like hospitalized and everything. That is so weird. Oh, she slipped and fell.

And not thinking, she grabbed onto the side of the hot grill and burned her whoa while they're cooking i guess they turned on beforehand but oh my god and she settled yeah damn that is wild tori i feel for you i have sympathy for you for sure going through a lot your ex-husband sounds like a dubious man, but I mean, that's wild. Uh-huh. That's not Benihana's fault. They always tell you it's freaking 500 degrees. Like, don't come near this grill.

I can't imagine, like. She must have been, like, maybe intoxicated or something. Maybe, allegedly. Because, allegedly. Because it's like, you can't just think to grab a grill. Yeah. And also, wouldn't you grab, there's like the table. And isn't the hibachi in the middle

right the hibachi's in the middle unless she's like going through the middle of the hibachi where the cooks are i can't even like i don't know i mean she's settled it's also like i would never sue because i'm like oh my god my dad did this like you know what i mean like it's not their fault yeah yeah don't go to benihana if you're gonna feel like you're gonna be a little clumsy or something yeah yeah oh to. Oh, Tori. I'm not on her side. God, these people like just keep it in the drafts. We don't need it.

My whole FYP page is this right now. Did you – as of like last night actually, I had like – I was so tired after our interview. I was like, oh, man. I went eight and then I was going to go to sleep. But I was like, let me just go on TikTok. And everything was about Watcher. Do you know Watcher? No.

Have you heard of them? No. Okay. So they're like ex-BuzzFeed employees. They did like – they used to do like BuzzFeed like true crime or something. And then they went to YouTube. I don't know how many years ago. Maybe only four years.

That was the thing because everyone was like, you've only been on YouTube four years. They're like – they kind of remind me a little bit of Try Guys meets Good Mythical Morning. It's like a group of guys, kind of like cute, but like maybe 30s, 40s, kind of geeky, whatever. They do like true crime videos, but they also do like eating videos, like trying weird concoctions. They're kind of just like a random YouTube channel. I don't know, I think they have a million subscribers, maybe 3 million. I could be wrong. But they really popped off and blew up on YouTube. And yesterday they posted a video that said goodbye YouTube and

that they're leaving YouTube to start their own streaming platform where you have to pay $6 a month to just see their videos. You don't see any other creator videos. You just see theirs. And they already have a Patreon paywall. So they have a Patreon and this. They're doing both. And they're completely leaving YouTube. They're not going to post any more content on YouTube. And the fans were – wow. And I didn't know what their fans looked like. I had no idea. I don't know what the Try Guy fans looked like.

Good Morning. I have no idea. But their fans in particular – they're like three guys I think. I think it's like three main guys. Steven Lim and I don't know the other ones. But they're mostly like – a lot of girlies, a lot of college-age girlies I saw and they were just like so annoyed because they were just like, I guess Rooster Teeth did this. I was doing a deep dive.

I didn't know Rooster Teeth either. Do you remember them? Kind of. They did the same thing and flopped, and then they're like, oh, my God, you guys, we're so sorry or whatever. So by the time this comes out, because we're filming a couple days early. Usually we do it the day before, but it's a couple days early. I'm sure they're going to issue an apology or something like that. But all the fans are like, what the heck?

We can't afford $6 a month. It's $6 a month, or you can do $60 for the year. So I guess you're getting like a discount if you subscribe for the year. But people are just so annoyed because they're like, okay, someone was saying Spotify, they subscribe to for less than that. And they get like unlimited artists, unlimited music. And everyone was just so like pissed off because they're like, what the heck? Like we can't afford that. And why would we just pay for a streaming service just for your videos that you were already giving us for free

and so far watcher has not commented about it but they were just like peace out by youtube how many views do they have comments so they're they have 2.88 million subscribers and the i mean all the top the top comments they're not even monitoring their comments. They're like, did I just get laid off as a watcher fan? I saw that. I can't explain it, but this video feels like when your rich corporate boss gives you a pizza party instead of a raise. I will not pay money to watch a spoiled dude with a Tesla eat expensive food. Oh, because they were saying everyone can afford it. They're like, six times a month, everyone can afford this.

And everyone's like, what? But they have a Patreon. So why not? Like that's the people that want to pay the tax to see more. Well, now they're just not going to post on YouTube, period. They're not going to give out any free content. Everything's behind a paywall now. It's just weird to think that they would expect

to make more than what they make in AdSense. You know, like if you think, okay, how many people actually pay that money and come over? Like that won't be more than what they get on youtube and they get sponsored how many views do they get on their videos like in their past before what's the goodbye one at goodbye youtube goodbye is at goodbye is at 1.2 million views and videos are i mean 1 million is the average yeah they're getting like a million views per video like the top one i see is 2 million.

That doesn't translate to paywalls. There's no way a million people are gonna pay $6 a month for you. It reminds me like every year, there's at least one new social media company that comes out and they're like, this is a new place to watch videos. And that never makes it.

But it's just them. Right, so why do you think you alone will do that? They're calling it a streaming service. Like we're starting a streaming service and I'm like, but it's just your videos. Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. So they're trying to do something else but a big mistake.

Like so dumb. Especially if you have a Patreon. Like you're giving the free content. It's like our Patreon, right? You get the free content and then people who are like hardcore fans, they're going to go to the paywall and so that way you get your extra money or whatever. And I want to say – I'm like pretty sure I saw someone say they make $100,000 a month off their Patreon.

So I'm just like how much more do you need? Unless there's like a corporate i don't think they're a corporation behind them because they were buzzfeed people that left that did their own thing on youtube and now they're going here so i don't think there's like this big company behind them i mean there's three of them but still it's no it just it just seems like they're trying to do something else new bigger like where do we go from here but leaving youtube unless you invented a new app that is better than YouTube, better than TikTok, that there's a reason to go there. Like TikTok came for free and it was better and people went there. It rarely works. So I remember, do you remember back in the day, it was like Philip DeFranco, Totally Sketch. I think it was

Shay Carl. Like they were the people behind Maker Studios, but they were like trying to do, I think, like a new platform and it just like didn't work. Like people are just like, we like YouTube. We know YouTube. It's free. Even when I like made 20,000 views when I was like making like no money on YouTube, it's like you still keep YouTube because that's like there's audience there that like you and it's still like relevancy.

It's like just – but also they're popular. Like that's the thing. It's not even like they're dying off. It's like they have a million views where you can do so much with that. You can like sell stuff, sponsor stuff, merch, whatever, Patreon. So like, why wouldn't you just keep doing that to keep your Patreon going? Because at this point, if you leave YouTube, you're going to lose your relevancy. Like it's just so weird and people will forget about you. It's just odd. And like no one else has done that. Like even like Rhett and Lincoln, It's like no one else has – I guess people have tried it.

Like they said the rooster teeth. I don't know who that is. But I just recently found out and I was like – but they basically flopped and they tried to come back and like no one cared and I don't know. It's so odd to me. And everyone's pissed on my 4E page. It's all like young college people and they're like – I guess in the video they said something like, you know, everyone can afford this and everyone's like, no.

Everyone can't afford it. That means I have to give up another streaming service like Netflix, Hulu. Like they talk about all the money they pay for other streaming services where you get thousands of TV shows and movies. Or YouTube. Like I pay YouTube to have ad-free content. Yeah. So I'm already paying.

And you get that. Yeah. You get part of that payment. So it's not. Watcher boys don't know what's up. I don't know. I don't think they said anything about it but i'm like they're gonna have to like come back to youtube and stay on youtube especially when you

get a million views if we're gonna i mean we don't even get a million views per podcast but it's like damn we're doing so well i couldn't even imagine like stopping at like do when you finally get views and be like actually we're switching over to this unless it was like a spotify maybe right where people already have the subscription maybe or you're getting a ton of money like it sounds like they're just starting this out i don't know, maybe. Or you're getting a ton of money. Like, it sounds like they're just starting this out. I don't know. Well, even Joe Rogan, he got a ton of money, went to Spotify, and now he's back on YouTube. Oh.

Is he? Yeah. So even then, you know, usually it's a cash grab and then you come back later because your audience wants to see where they used to see you. They're not going to move to another platform, especially if you invented a new platform that is not proven to be better than this. Well, you said that. You said you used to watch Joe Rogan's like full episodes.

And then when you went to Spotify, you just stopped watching him. So I guess it's just like not smart. Yeah. And that's Joe Rogan, the biggest guy. I don't think watchers. It reminds me too of like when a lot of YouTubers were like leaving to leaving to get, like, TV deals, you know what I mean? Like, a lot of them put, like, their basket in, like, oh, being on TV. Like, Grace Helbig had the E! show and, like, Lilly Singh.

Like, a lot of them moved to try and do TV and then they kind of, like, forgot about their channel a little bit. Because, like, oh, TV is, like, what I really want, you know? But when you abandon, like, YouTube, like, completely and then if it doesn't work out on TV. Totally. It's like you don't have as big of an audience to like go back to, you know. I always think about that. I always think, oh, I want my own TV show. I'm like, yes, it's going to happen.

I'm going to get it. But I always think like, yeah, do the podcast too because it only helps. Helps. You know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. Because it's hard to train like an audience. Like what Moses was saying like the audience

doesn't automatically like transfer over no it's because it's such a different format too it's like seeing Grace like produced and interviewing Hilary Duff

it's such a different feeling than her just like sitting in her kitchen talking to you yeah yeah I can never wrap my brain around that kind of stuff

I think Philip DeFranco tried it didn't he like go to Discovery for a minute? Oh, yeah. He might have still been making it. Maybe. I don't know.

Something was weird with that too. I get it. I get it if it's like a lot of money and you're going to go try it. Like you said, cash grab, try it. But just to start a whole new streaming service and completely like get off YouTube, like post clips, post, you know, less frequently on YouTube. I don't know, something, but it's kind of off. Yeah, don't abandon the audience it's kind of off yeah don't

abandon the audience that a million views per video too like that's that's huge especially now and i'm like crazy and everyone now everyone's turning against them like you said all the comments all the top comments all the tiktoks yeah because it's one thing to have like a patreon or like a laugh or something you know what i mean where it's like you know there is extra content like exclusive behind a paywall but that's like you know bonus yeah it's like a bonus you want to get anywhere else yeah yeah people want to support and then people also want to see more you know but it's different when it's like every single thing we post is behind a paywall you know dumb you just lose relevancy they i mean they had it in front of them take your patreon and move it to this new

platform you want to invent oh yeah why are you taking the youtube yeah that's a good point people are already paying you on patreon like okay instead of paying me here pay me there yeah but you have to prove yourself to get more people to come there or to go from free to pay something is odd about this i know greed i think i think it's just like because you know patreon takes percentages and of all those things take 20 30 percent um so you know but for a reason because people trust patreon and they have that they have a system and stuff like that you know what i mean i get it i get wanting to like keep all the money if i moved from patreon i would say okay you pay me ten dollars pay me seven now i'm gonna take out the cut of patreon it's gonna be cheaper for you come over to my platform and then over time you can offer more services, more whatever.

It never works. But make it make sense for people. I've seen a couple YouTubers try to like do website memberships. And I'm just like, I don't think that works. Even for like adult stars and stuff like that. It used to work because before OF, everyone had their own like adult website. But I've seen like YouTubers just try to like post their videos and blogs over on a website page. I'm like.

The only people that it worked for were comedians that, let's say they didn't get a special. So they made their own special. And they're like, here, five bucks. Pay-per-view. Watch my special. You know, I think Louis C.K. did that and was very successful. One else was like Louis C.K., like huge. Right.

That's what I'm saying. Like there were people that said, okay, I'm going to sell my special to the audience instead of to netflix and it worked that's the only time it worked why did he do that because is it because netflix didn't want him or he just wanted to make all the money himself i think he was just experimenting with that i think i mean yeah it's smart if you're like huge i mean you can do that like taylor swift could put 30 more songs behind a paywall and i'm sure somebody would pay for it yeah Yeah. A lot of people would pay for it. Be like, oh, we'll pay for this. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But you're not Taylor Swift. You're a watcher. Wow. And it's like it's failed so many times before so you would just think it'd be like – So crazy. Why would you be the exception? It is crazy. And their content really is like mixology and like mixing foods and it's like stuff

everyone does and I'm just like it's not like it's groundbreaking content that you're like producing like high quality production. We're going to also leave YouTube. Where are we going to go? We're leaving YouTube to go to... Text messages. We'll just text you our content. What? We'll be on Photo Bucket.

Find us on there. Flickr. We still have a Flickr somewhere flicker oh my god oh i know linkedin it's time for linkedin to make its big someone was talking about linkedin the other day oh yeah i was like who's talking about linkedin if you have a linkedin you're a loser. What? I don't know. Excuse me. I have one against my will. Oh, yep.

Against your will? Yeah, because I think when LinkedIn came out, people got accounts and they're just there since then. Okay, just kidding. We take it back. I actually have no idea. It just sounds awful. It sounds boring. I think it's just if you want a job.

If you want a job? If you're in corporate America, it makes sense. What does that mean? Because they put job listings there. Like when ET's hiring, ET posts on LinkedIn. Oh, okay. See, that's everything. They reach out to you sometimes.

Recruiters are on there. I'm just like, here's my LinkedIn. I immediately delete the email. I was like, I don't want to see this. Like, why are you sending this to me? I didn't know that's what it was at all. I just thought it was something nerdy people did to be like, look at my degree. I was like, I don't want to see this. Like, why are you sending this to me? I didn't know that's what it was at all. I just thought it was something nerdy people did to be like, look at my degree.

Like, all right, got it. You're college educated. You have a LinkedIn shout out. Shout out LinkedIn. I haven't been on it in a long time, but I do have one.

I do get notifications though. Cause it tells you like how many people view your profile and it would be like 200 people view you. I'm like, what are they looking for? Recently? I get them like every day. Yeah. But I haven't updated my LinkedIn in like two years. Cause I it would be like, 200 people viewed you. I'm like, what are they looking for? Recently? I get them like every day. Yeah.

But I haven't updated my LinkedIn in like two years because I haven't been like. Oh my God, you should update it. You should put just Trish. I did. What?

Really? Mine is now the just Trish podcast. No, you didn't. What? What'd you put on there? What's your title? I'm not sure if I'm a producer or I think like a producer.

Co-creator. Yeah, okay. I like all that. Yeah, that's a good title. i'm like a producer or something i want to see oh my god i need to see the linkedins of you guys now this is everything everyone's social media i'm like just rich podcast that's a good patreon video reviewing linkedins i would love to see who's on there review her uh what's it model mayhem that's that's the one you should be reviewing i feel like that's everything they're still you should be reviewing I'm a model mayhem I'm gonna have model mayhem I feel

I feel like that's everything they're still up too oh my god you never did you never like even was like maybe no really that is so funny I love model mayhem yeah I did get jobs from there like that lingerie one those were the days I got Jesus casted as Jesus really that's where you got it yeah I guess it was

kind of everything model mayhem and Craigslist oh yeah Craigslist you have like an entertainment thing where you got it? I guess it was kind of everything. Model Mayhem and Craigslist. Oh yeah. Craigslist you have like an entertainment thing where you could like audition for stuff. I used to get a lot off Craigslist too.

There was gigs. Gigs were amazing because you would get industry like I would get set design and things like that and gigs and then sometimes I'll do a search

Jesus and then I would see all the people. You never did it? Not for gigs. Really? Yeah. I think that's where

I met Totally Sketch. I think I met him off the Craigslist one too even before yeah i think that's where i met totally sketch i think i met him off the craigslist one too even before shane i think i knew yeah you met totally sketch off craigslist wow that's so we were both in totally sketch videos i can't believe you never looked for jobs on there no oh no you were like i'm in college i don't need to look on craigslist well i think probably it was just younger like it was probably oh maybe maybe i looked at internships there actually but i think mostly there was like i looked at other like internship websites but i think maybe i found one internship on craigslist i think but then i feel like i don't know i feel like more legitimate like career websites became a thing yeah you're right i

think i was like 18 so i was like doing this in like 2006 or five. So that probably is why. All right, guys. Stay tuned. Coming up next, we have Harry Daniels. He's been all over Coachella singing to your favorite artists. And the president. And the president. Literally President Biden.

But he wants to be here on Just Trish. And that's what's going to happen next. So you guys stay tuned. Harry Daniels will be joining us shortly. And we're back, you guys. Special guest. Guest of honor. back, you guys. Special guest. Guest of honor. We're so excited.

Harry Daniels. Hi. Thank you for having me. You're wild. Already the stories you're telling me are like crazy. And you're only 20? Well, yes. Wow.

I'm shook by you on so many levels. Girl, I'm shook by you. Oh, my God. I'm shook by you. First of all, let's talk. We have so much to get in but you brought this which I was super excited about I did um it's like my little Nard War moment it's like um double fantasy the idol uh vinyl straight from the premiere from Khan wow my friend she was like yeah like I have this because she knows I'm such a big fan and I was like I actually already do have one. It's on my wall and

everything and so I was like I'll take another but like the only person I know who likes it as much as I do is you. You're the only one I know that likes it besides me. No it was so good like I don't understand because the thing I loved about it is like it's like literally the video of Britney Spears where she's like

it's a movie. It's pretend. It where she's like um it's a movie it's pretend it's just a movie it's pretend you're an adult you should know that it's not really legit i'm like okay like it's like literally not real guys like what and i think you should sing to jocelyn have you ever done oh my god that's the reason i keep singing like world-class center for everyone i think it's like everyone because like okay if i like don't know what i'm gonna fucking sing and i kind of blank i'm like a world-class center it's so You say it to everyone. I say it to everyone because, okay, if I don't know what I'm going to fucking say and I kind of blank, I'm like, oh, world-class center.

It's so easy. I know it. Everyone knows it. But does everyone know it? Well, if they don't now, they do. Did you say it to Addison Rae? No, I did to Die For for Addison.

Oh, her song. Who did you say it to? You said it to someone so random. Oh, God. I just did it for Vinnie Hacker the other day. We just talked about him too. Oh, my gosh.

Who did I do World Class Center for? Have you ever done it for anyone from the show? I don't think I've met anyone from the show actually. Not Troy, not The Weeknd, not Lily Royce. No, I mean like I would love to honestly like those are honestly some of my like dream people to like do this with. Okay, can we talk about – well, let's just get into this part. Okay, so if you guys don't know Harry, like I feel like you've really blown up like so

much recently. I talk about that all the time with, like, Madeline. She's, like, my, like, manager and my sister and whatnot. I wonder if you guys were really related because you have, like, good fucking eyes. Okay, this close. Right. So, basically, like, I, like, literally, I feel like I've been doing this for so long. Like, these, like, oh, can I sing to you videos, like, since, like, what?

Like, June or July of 2022. And, like, I literally say to everyone, I'm like, oh, well, I became, like, semi-relevant, like, two months ago. So, like. Why? How come you're blowing up? I don't know. So, your, like, shtick, right, is, like, you go up to people and, like, just sing at them.

Basically. Okay. But, like, how, first of all, are these all, are they planned in advance? Like, you know where these people are going to be. Okay. Like, everyone thinks that I, like, for some reason, like, I have a f***ing, like, magical, like, orb, blah, blah, blah. But, like, the tea is, like, I kind of, like, don't, like, Addison like I have like magical like orb blah blah blah but like

the tea is like I kind of like don't like Addison Rae like I was literally at Abby Lee dance studios and I saw this girl like literally running up the block I was like oh period that looks like Addison Rae and then I was like wait it literally is no the one where she's walking backwards wasn't she was like no we legit like we have the full video and like I was like can I sing to you because like I know she knows who there's certain people I can always can kind of tell who knows who I like might know I knew she knew who I was so I was like oh can I sing to you? Because I know she knows who I – there are certain people I can always kind of tell who knows who I might know. I knew she knew who I was. So I was like, oh, can I sing to you? She's like, I have to go to this movie.

And she's like, I have to run. I'm sorry. And Madeline was like, we'll run with you. I love. And she was like, well, yes. That was iconic to me. That looked so staged because I was like, okay, who's going backwards for their – Addison Rae.

She's also jamming too and being in the moment. No, she has the best vibes. Yeah? Okay, we love that. We love Addison Rae here for sure. She's everything. Yeah, she's great. So that one wasn't planned jacob lordy no that one was like legit just like it was the day i'd gotten verified and so like we went to this restaurant

to like celebrate and then like the entire snl cast like walked out of the back room because it was so weird because there's like two rooms at this restaurant and like the entire front room was like empty and like the back room was like full but I was like I feel like at a restaurant they'd like seat the front room because like they don't want it to look like empty that's weird right and then there was like no one there so I was like that's like weird whatever and then like there was like security guards or something and then like we're eating and we're taking our sweet time because why wouldn't we be and then like of course the whole cast of SNL walks out I'm like oh, oh, bitch. And I tell Madeline, pull out the camera because she filmed everything.

And, like, as I start, I'm like, bitch. And there's Jacob Elordi. And I'm like, oh, here, we freaking go. And that's one of my favorites. I think, was that the one I captured that I was like,

bitch? Yeah, I was honored because it got, like, 12 million views and I was tagged in the description. Well, yes. I was like, okay,

you want to sing to me and you just sing to Jacob Elordi? Well, because, like, in my mind, like, in my mind, there's certain people who are like, okay, like, at this point, I've sang to so many people, like, I kind to sing to me and you just sing to Jake Malourney? Because, like, in my mind, like, in my mind, there's certain people who are, like, okay, like, at this point, I've sang to so many people, like, I kind of really don't go anymore. I'm like, okay, like, whatever.

Like, I like doing it, but, like, I'm not gagged. Like, I was literally more gagged for Dua Lipa than I was, like, the president. Okay. But the president had to be. No, it wasn't. You did not get that close. You were, like, so close to President Biden. I have the tea on that one.

Like, there are ones, like, all, like, straight up just say, like, yeah, like, that was set up. Like, Conan Gray. Like, the tea on that one. There are ones like all like straight up just say like, yeah, like that was set up. Like Conan Gray, like that was like, I literally, it was the first time I think I'd like ever come to LA or the second time or something. And like, I literally like, I just emailed like, I had a friend who like worked like at the labels. Like, hey, like if you have any like artists you want me to like do something with, like let me know. And they were like, oh, Conan Gray might be down.

Like, let's ask him. No, I love, I love, yeah. Right. But then let's like, like I'll own up to might be down. Like, let's ask him. No, I love, I love, yeah. Right, but then let's like, like, I'll own up to it if it's like clearly like stage type vibes. But like that one, it was like, I got invited to that. Like, I don't know if you know, there was this like fundraiser of like,

it was Bill Clinton, Obama, and like. What? And you're invited? I'm saying, girl, like, I was like, oh. And you were invited. Girl, I'm saying, I'm like, oh. But like, right. Like, that's wild. Like all the presidents, not just one. No, I was gagged.. And you were invited. Girl, I'm saying. I'm like, oh. But, like, right. Like, that's wild.

Like, all the presidents, not just one. No, I was gagged. And so they invited me to that. And I was like, damn, they must be really, like, inviting anyone. And so, like. What's it? I'm so confused. What was it for?

It was, I think, just, like, a DNC fundraiser. Like, they were trying to, like, invite people. But I guess they, like, invited me because I, like, am, quote, unquote, an influencer. And I said that very loosely because I've always said, like, I don't know who I'm influencing. So, I'm like. I mean, that's amazing. No, I was gag very loosely because I've always said like, I don't know who I'm influencing. So I'm like. I mean, that's amazing. No, I was gagged. That was the most like what situation.

And like the tea is, okay, so basically with that, like then we got invited to the after party and I saw like Anna Wintour and I was like, but because like I wanted the video with Anna. Oh yeah. But you can't like go up to Anna and be like, oh, can I sing to you? Because like that's the kind of person who like Anna Wintour will gag you. But I feel you don't care. You don't care.

I don't care, but there's certain people, like I never want to do it to someone if like, that's not their vibe. But Sabrina's always like, no, no, fuck you.

Love her, but like, okay. But she loves you for real, you think? Or is she actually serious when she's like, no.

I think that she just didn't want it the first time I ever did it. And like, I love Sabrina. And okay, so it was the first one I'd ever did actually in the whole series. So I went up to her and I was like, oh, can I sing to you? And so I it was the first one I ever did actually in the whole series so I went up to her

and I was like oh can I sing to you and like it was at a CD signing and that's where I started doing these and the things with CD signings they're timed it's promo events

like they have to do they have to sign so many CDs get through so many people and I was like oh can I sing for you and she was like no like I have to get through

all these people I'm so sorry and like at this point like the camera was rolling I was like no no no Sabrina please it's my dream I have been watching you

since I was a little boy you don't understand and camera was rolling. I was like, no, no, no, Sabrina, please. It's my dream. I have been watching you since I was a little boy. You don't understand. And she was like, okay, fine. Because I think she thought it was like. Real. Right. And then like I started making it. And she was like, oh, bye.

And so then like. Because why? She just thought you weren't being serious. Well, I wasn't being serious. But I was also taking like hella long. Like I was like, like most people. I was like, hi, I love you so much. Oh my gosh, thank you.

And you signed the CD. Bye. But like how did you know you weren't being serious? You know some people just think they're good singers. And they're just like, you know. No, because like I was so. It was like I like most people, it's like, hi, I love you so much. Oh my gosh, thank you. And you signed the CD. Bye. But like, how did you know you weren't being serious? You know some people just think they're good singers and they're just like, you know. No, because like, I was so, it was like, I hadn't found my sound yet, if you will. So I was so over the top with it. What did you do? How did you sing to her?

I tried. She got under my, under my. And so she was so pissed. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I can't blame her. But as of the same time, what if that was your voice and you were being so serious and she's just like, no, absolutely not. I think honestly the way – like the song choice, everything about it, it was just like, girl. She's like, this is fake.

So have you ever actually sang to her for real or every time she's like, absolutely not? No. I think the only person who I kind of like – I got really – I think the only time I've ever been like truly like nervous was like Dua because like I love Dua. Dua Lipa. Dua Lipa. What song did you sing to her Houdini okay and were you being real were you like doing your real okay so it was like that one I was just like I think everyone knew but her basically and they're like we want to surprise Dua and like so I was like oh period like that's my queen well yes like I'm not gonna say no to like sing to my damn queen. And so I was like Okay, and so with that I sort of was just like oh my god Like she's right there and I kind of was like well, oh my gosh

And so where was that at? I think she was just doing like press or something and like we ho like it wasn't really like Like I don't know. I feel like everyone thinks that I'm like somehow like hiding in bushes But it's so weird. Because I love celebrities. I love finding them. Looking for them. I never see them. So I'm like.

How are you just at all these spots with them? Because the tea is. Some of these videos will get filmed so long. Before I like actually put them out. Because I feel like. Okay. And this is like where my like origins come into this. Like I started on like stan Twitter.

Like I was so deep into it. Like. Cue clip of me like fighting the Selena Gomez. You're the Dua Lipa fan. That fought the Selena Gomez stand on the street that fought the Selena Gomez girl that was the stand of like

everyone I love that me too same yeah you get it but like but that's what I'm saying you're making it happen

like I'm the stand of everybody I want to meet everybody but I can't find these people like how are you fighting them I would just go

to everyone's concert I would go to everyone's meet and greet I would go to everyone's like fan event whatever like that like

literal fight happened at like a Camila Cabello like fan event or something like right outside oh why at a Camila Cabello

fan event I like Camila Cabello okay but you're like a Dio Lupo Dio Lupo Stan like I stan everyone got it like that's why you and me love the idol yeah yeah we get it she's like it yeah yeah yeah like she's the real deal oh man if you why haven't you found her yet because like the thing it was with like Lily Rose is like I actually like I found someone I know ended up working for like 07O like Shake who's like is like dating her. And I was like, oh my gosh, like do you think – and she was like it's the kind of thing where like, well, I don't know.

And on top of like how the hell are you even getting like in contact with her? She's one I've run into like three or four times and I never run into anyone. You know what I mean? No, I imagine me getting a DM from one of my fans and was like, hey, I just saw Lily Rose Depp and 07O Shake at NoHo and like NoHo Burgers or whatever. I was like, I'm going to anyone you know what I mean no I imagine me getting a dm from one of my fans and I was like hey I just saw Lily Rose Depp and um 07 O'Shake at NoHo and like NoHo Burgers or whatever I was like I'm gonna kill myself but you don't live out here so you couldn't just like run I live in New York and so I was like I'm just here all the time but like that goes back into like me being like I just I manage everything very well so like I always know like sometimes a video will

get filmed like god knows how many months in advance and then that's when I post it when I'm like all right this is the narrative I feel like. Because I mean you know better than anyone. Right. The narrative like what you see on people's social media isn't like what's – Yeah. You know what I mean. Actually happening.

Yeah. Right. And Jocelyn's like such a queen. God, that would be the best. We were saying like we feel like she's a real person. Like we're seeing her so much. She is. Like that's like genuinely queen like of all queens I feel like.

So good. I would love – God, I really hope that happens. That's, like, my one thing for you. What about, like, the weekend? How would you find him?

Oh, God. I mean, like, some of them, it's, like, literally a complete accident. It's, like, Daniel Caesar.

Everyone's, like, how did you find Daniel Caesar? I'm, like, girl, I was at the cafe, and there was Daniel Caesar. Okay, but President

Biden backed this. Oh, right. Because I'm, like, Yes, God. Because I'm so confused. No one can get that close to the president. You're, like, duly, but, like, all these other people you can't get. But, like, you're, like, oh, me. No, you and me legit. We're like, uh-huh. Because I'm so confused. No one can get that close to the president. You're like, Dua Lipa, like all these other people you can't get.

But like, you're like, oh, but President Biden I can get close to. So basically that one was like sort of, oh my God. So basically like we were, like Anna was there and I was like, oh, do you want to sing to Anna? I was like, hi, Anna. Like I'm so, like I needed to introduce myself. Yeah. Because like that's like, there's certain people you can kind of tell their vibes.

And Anna Wintour is the kind of person like you can tell like you can't just go up to her like you know what I mean right so I was like right and so I introduced myself I was like can I think to you and then she's like literally walked away and I was like okay you ate that queen and so like did you film it is it on film it's on film I've never posted it I don't know if I ever will like I'm like that's everything though it was one of those things it was like for me it was like a real moment but I'm like oh god I have like no idea if like she'd like that or not and so like i never want to make anyone like uncomfortable like these are like fun like you know what i mean like except jacob bellorti or president biden or anyone else that's different you're like it's not anowentor well

right right but like basically then like they started setting up barricades it was me and madeline we're like huh like there's something going on. And then they're like, Dr. Jill has a surprise. And she starts, like, giving a speech to, like, start a toast at the after or whatever. And then, like, Joe Biden comes out. And I'm like, oh, period. He ate. And then, like, he comes over. And, like, they come over.

And, like, we're, like, on the barricade. And so they come over. And they start, like, shaking hands. And we're on, like, the left side. And, like, Jill does the whole, like, barricade. And then, like, Joe goes, like, to the whole like barricade and then like Joe goes like to the Joe President Biden

your friend Joe Biden right President Biden goes to the like the right and then like he like walks away because like they closed off all the roads

because like it was three presidents like they needed to like have like their motorcades whatever and then I was like and like he starts to like walk away and me and Madeline

just start like screaming screaming bloody murder. We're like, Joe! Oh, my God. I think you'd be escorted out at that point. No, I'm saying. And so I think everyone's like, can I have a selfie? And we're like, can he sing to you? And he's like, what the fuck?

What kind of request is that? President Biden said that? Like, what the fuck? He was like, what? And so he comes over. He's like, the roads are closed. They're opening up the roads or something like He was like, what? And so he comes over. He's like, the roads are closed. They're opening up the roads or something like that. Wait, what?

What does that mean? Because the roads were closed off because of his motorcade. Are you saying that to you? Yeah, because he's like, girl, I got to go. Like, girl, I got to open up the roads again. I have to go. I love that he's explaining it. That's everything.

And then I just like started. And then he was like, what? But he was kind of feeling it, right? No, like he was a vibe. Like the handhold. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You were like holding hands with him. No, I was like gagged.

I literally was like, there's no way. Like you have to have clearance before you can get that close to a president. No, it was just like the one time where it was sort of just like every now and then like a president will go. And like especially in like a campaign year where like they have to sort of like come and greet their supporters. And like it was like a fundraiser. You know what I mean? Like – and so I was like, okay. And it was just sort of like a cataclysmic like boom with events.

It was like weird. And is that your biggest – that's probably your like most famous person in the whole world, right? Probably. I mean in my mind you're like more famous. Honestly. I was like you start doing all these big things at in my mind, you're, like, more famous. Like, honestly. I was like, you dare doing all these big things at Coachella, and then you're like, I want to come here. I was like, you just, like, jack Antonoff and all these people.

No, girl, like, I literally always say, like, my, like, the top five people I want to do, it's, like, you. So, like, I'm here now. Whoa, Vicky, Natalie Nunn, Bad Baby, Tokyo Tony. You guys are, like, you guys, like. Love Tokyo 20. You guys are like, you guys like Love that list. You guys like shaped my brain like It's true.

I don't know. I feel like it's like with a lot of the like modern day like celebrities and stuff. It's just sort of like, well okay. Like it's like sort of like you can like tell like you can always tell who's gonna be like big and you can sort of tell like if you will the machine is pushing you know what i mean sure

sure yeah but like you're real like you're as real as they come you're the real i love it this is who i shape and i love it yeah no girl that's why i love the idol because like the whole thing was like okay like surprise like everyone's like oh this, crazy girl is about to be a flop. And, like, and then surprise, like, she queen. She queen. And she, like, yeah, she literally was, like, in control of everything. Right? Like, surprise the whole time.

Everyone's, like, oh, this crazy bitch is going off the rails. No. Surprise. She's a queen. I lied about my abusive mom so hot. Right. It's crazy. I was, like, she cut the hairbrush.

I was, like, oh. He's, like, oh, shit. And she had, like, yeah, no, that's everything. No, she didn't. She's such a queen. I didn't get the ending, though. That's one thing I still don't get. Wait, what do you mean? The ending is the best part. The ending is the best part. Because she was, like, yeah, no, that's everything. No, she didn't. She's such a queen. I didn't get the ending, though. That's one thing I still don't get. Wait, what do you mean?

The ending is the best part. Yeah, I think it is the best part. Because she was, like, manipulated him. She was, like, in control this whole time. No, she manipulated him. But, like, why did she present him to the world? I don't get it. I was like, you ate.

That's tea right there. But, like, I would do that, too. So, like, I was like, she ate. That was so weird. I didn't get it. And I thought they were trying to, like, set it up for season two. And then, like, it got canceled. And I was like, maybe it was too ahead of its time.

I don't know. I think it was way too ahead of its time. And I love that she did it at the weekend concert, too. Right. She's like, and other people at the concert didn't know. They're all just like, what is happening? Like, she comes out and she's, like, presenting the weekend to, like, his crowd. No, imagine, like, imagine, like, going to, like, the weekend show, like, doing, like,

a bump. And then you're, like. Chloe Rose Evans. And then you're, like, she's like, hello, angels. Yeah. I would have been, like, collapsing. I, like, doing, like, a bump, and then you're, like, and then you're, like, she's, like, hello, angels. I would have been, like, collapsing. I would have introduced you to Tedros. I would have been, like, oh, period, she ate. I wish we could have been there.

I mean, that would have been such a time. No, it was literally right here, too. I know, Sophie. Oh, my God. Have you, so do you go to concerts? Like, you'll go to Sophie and hang out? I'm, like, concerted out now. Okay, so you don't go to the shows anymore because you have to keep doing this right this is your brand

at this point it's my brand but i honestly like i don't want to say it's coming too close because it's not coming too close it's definitely it's like the last thing it's gonna do but it's really so like i want to evolve it like the whole reason i even started this because like i wanted to make my own music but i was like oh nobody gives a f**k about anyone like how many times you go on your for you page and you get like a video with like five likes like did I just make the song in the summer no and you keep scrolling like okay keep it pushing sis and so I was like okay like if I'm gonna do this I'm gonna need to like get a following I'm gonna need people to get like pay attention to me and I'm gonna need to like do something like kind of iconic and so like I was

like literally just throwing wall for the first like two months and then like when Sabrina Carpenter announced that signing I was like huh like I'm like I love Sabrina but I have nothing to say to her you're just gonna sing to her I was like I've met her before I have nothing to say anymore I've run out of things and so I met her so many times I met her like two or three times at like meeting greets or concerts over the years and I was just like wait I have nothing left to say there's nothing to say and so I was like all right like I'm just gonna troll this girl and like if, all right, like, I'm just going to troll this girl. And, like, if it works. Oh, my God.

And I'm just like, if it works, I'll see her down the road. And I did see her down the road. Yes, you saw her again. And so, like, that's the thing. And, like, I'll see her down the road again. Right. Like, that's the thing. And she'll, like, remember.

Because the last time she said no to you, it was, like, cute. She's like, no, I know you. Right. I was like, oh, period. Like, she ate. Yeah. Which is why I was, like, so confused. I was like, everyone was, like, living for it.

It was everything. I was like, oh. It was always those random ones. Like, the whole the whole Josh Hodgerson thing like I didn't expect that kind of response I didn't see that one what do you think to him whistle and I went up to him and like everyone was like like gagging over it and I'm like did he get it yeah of course he got it and so I was like what because the ones in my mind that I'm like oh this is gonna be like a moment like they honestly like it's so hit or miss. It's like it will do well. And then like, but it won't do what I like expect it to do. Yeah.

And then it's like, does that ever happen to you? Especially when you're doing like YouTube. Oh, well, mine just never hit. Yours always hit. No, girl. Like every single time. No, you're always hit. Mine never do.

Like I've never been viral like you. Like seriously, like you get like 10 million views per like TikTok. You're like. I think it's just because I manage it carefully. Because like I'm like literally it's like honestly, like I'm just been viral like you like seriously like you get like 10 million views per like TikTok you're like I think it's just because I manage it carefully because like I'm like literally it's like honestly like I'm just gonna come out and say it every influencer I feel like is like scared of falling off and that's the tea like when you were like right when it was like YouTube for you like were you ever scared you were gonna like every day I feel like I fall off all the time right like I'm like I'm terrified of falling off because like okay like I literally like for me

like this isn't even about being an influencer. I literally don't give a f*** about influencer culture. I think you are one of five influencers I care about. Aw, thank you. Oh my god. Addison Rae, Woah Vicky, Natalie Nine. It's because you guys actually stand out.

You guys aren't like, do this TikTok dance. It's because you guys are culture. You guys have actually contributed something to like my life contributed to culture i love this i mean there's just like so many countless like memes of you and there's so many countless things you've done there's so many countless iconic moments of yours like oh my gosh like i literally remember in 2016 when every day there was like every hour there was a new kitchen floor video and you were slaying yeah and you were slaying i was like that it was very you coded yeah when i was doing the kitchen floor videos it was like non- there was a new kitchen floor video and you were slaying. Yeah. And you were slaying. I was slaying. It was very you coded.

Yeah. When I was doing the kitchen floor videos, it was like nonstop just chaos and it's like what's happening here. Those are my favorite kind of thing. I love the chaos because that's the thing. I feel like people go on the internet to like be entertained and to like escape from their like real lives. Like that's the thing.

Like I followed music and pop stars so closely because it was what I wanted to do so badly. But I was like, man, like I don't it was what I wanted to do so badly but I was like man like I don't know how I'm gonna do this and so I sort of just like fell into like the butterfly like like the rabbit hole of just like following other people's careers and it was just like I got so good at like almost playing like fantasy football in my mind like have you ever seen stance be like this should have been the first single and blah blah blah is that you that was like me basically and then I was like I was like wait like i cannot be doing this for everyone anymore like i need to take this energy and put it towards my own damn career because like

i know my ideas are good and like i know i'm talented and i feel like the big stans like always are the most creative right because we like we absorb all the like great geniuses and creativity so it's like we're stans but then we can like do it and make it our own thing too which is like totally what you've done like that's the thing like even like down to your own cosplays they're so clever thank you you always like know how to pick it both of you guys are so smart with it oh my god thank you yes cosplay yes thank you i appreciate it so you want it so you so you actually sing like i actually sing and so i was basically like i just like it's like no one cares if you're good or bad anymore they literally only care if you have followers.

That is the only thing people care about. Like you can literally be the most untalented person ever but like – If you have followers. If you have followers, like a label will like sign you and like if you don't – or if you have followers and you don't even make music, like they will plant you into a lab and make you a singer. Is that your ultimate like dream to get like a record deal or a theater or like where do you want to be with it? I like – I love music. Like I've always like like I love pop stars. I think that's why I like gravitated towards them and that's why like I feel like I do

so many like pop stars in my videos honestly. I think like the biggest thing is I sort of just like I want to make music. I think that just like shifts the culture a little bit. Yeah. I think that's the thing. Like original music. Right. It's more important to me to like actually do something that like shifts and impacts

culture than it does to like actually and like create conversation than it does to like actually like get like a lot of views or like a lot of like like number one hits or whatever because I feel like that stuff doesn't matter like that's not how you build a legacy like all of that stuff is fake yeah no for sure you totally have it right are you like writing your own songs are you like working with producers I've been like writing and producing everything since I was 13 by yourself yeah and so I had all of these songs like literally just sitting in my, at this point, literally sitting in my notes app,

but I'm just like, no one is going to listen to these unless I have something going on for myself and no one in the business is going to take me serious unless I have something I can offer. So I'm going to go troll really hard. Get Reddit. Like I will play into the cringe factor because so many people, I feel like when artists are coming up,

like everyone's like, Oh, like that is so cringe, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I'm going to be so cringe that like it's cringe.

It's like, like kind of like the opposite. Like, do you know what I mean? Like. It's like almost camp, not cringe. Right. Like it's uncringe. Like if you're not in on the joke, like. When you're in on it, it's like so everything.

But that's when people don't know. That's like the true troll. Which is why you're a great troll. Because people are like. People think I'm like serious. But like you do. It does come across so serious, like, you know, at the beginning, and then I'm like.

It's because I, like, I don't break. I'm always like, period. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh, I love that. Even now, that's why I was like, oh, my God, like, you're just so animated, so it's just, like, so hard. You know what I mean? And singing is, like, some people just sing like that,

you know, they want to sing to people. Like, I've had so many people come up to me and just, like, start singing, and I'm like, okay. Yeah, that's kind of everything. And a lot of people sound like you do in the video, so I'm just like, well, I and just like start singing and I'm like okay yeah that's kind of everything and a lot of people sound like you do in the video so I'm just like well I'm just gonna go with it you know it's kind of everything I just like I really really wanted to do this and the only way I was ever gonna do it was if I like had the following I had the numbers and I had like everything because the music it's like honestly like now that I like have like a bit more of a following and there's like eyes on me and like

even now like I I live in like fantasy land like everyone's like oh my gosh sugar videos are ever I'm like they are like I have like no fucking idea really you don't track it I like see that okay like having like a million views on paper is so different than seeing a million people that's true that's true do people recognize you in public they do now I think the biggest gag was at Coachella when people were recognizing me I was like oh they oh. They all did. It was Tana. Did you sing World Class Center to David? I did sing World Class Center to David. That's what I thought.

And I was like, Brandon, why that song to him? Just because that was in your repertoire. That, but also, fuck my gut, I sing to David Dobrik. I don't know. That's good. But you went up to him, so obviously. I mean, like, I wasn't going to go up to him. It was Madeline.

She was like, David Dobrik's right there. I was like, oh, period. And then he'd sing. Was he into it? He was. He's like, I can't believe this is happening. I was like, oh, period. And then he'd say, was he into it? He was. He's like, I can't believe this is happening. I was like, why? Okay.

And then what happens after is you sing, I'm just a freak, yeah. And then what happens? Like, bye. It really depends. Like, sometimes, like, I'll literally stay and chat. Like, Dylan Minnette, I was talking to him for a second after we'd done that video. Who asked you to do the remix at Coachella? Someone, was that Jack?

Oh, my God, yeah, it was Jack. He's like, can you do the remix? And you're like, yes, I can. I actually need to sing, like at Coachella someone was that Jack oh my god yeah it was Jack he's like can you do the remix and you're like yes I can actually need to sing like another bar yeah yeah yeah oh my god that's why he was like making requests he's like actually do that remix and I was like okay I always get scared when people make requests because like honestly like I'm not tapped in the way I used to be right in terms of like and like Taylor Swift is by no means like a new artist who's up and coming like but like, Lord, like I'm not as tapped in as I used to be where like I know. Like I like I know a lot of really niche things, but like I'm not as gagged and like sort of like fanned out as I used to be. Like I am for you.

I was for Dua. But like the president, I was like, oh, OK. It's like Anna Wintour Dua Lipa me like I'll gag over like really random people and so like I love that me too

I think that's the best like you get it who cares about the president you know like I would literally be like I'd probably be really nervous to go up to Lily Rose Deaf honestly

would you but would you do it obviously I mean like that's how so you don't have fear or anything because my mind is I'm like if it works

I'll see them again okay what if it doesn't work? Then I die trying. Right. Like, that's the thing. You have to, like, want something so bad that you're literally willing to, like, die trying for it.

Totally. Like, that's the thing. Like, could you. Would you do World Class Cinephile or would you do something a little more obscure off the album? I'd probably do, like, One of the Girls because, like, that's my favorite song. Oh, that was, like, number one. That was, like, the big one from them.

When that one, like, went viral months later, I was like, I knew it. Because the minute it came out, I was like, oh, this is, like, amazing. Like, I can't believe all these people are going to miss out on that. Because they're, like, canceling the show or whatever. No, it's crazy. It came, like, viral, like, just a couple months ago. And I was like, that's so weird. I know.

And, like, popular, too. And then, like, maybe I do, like, fill the void or something. Let's do something so random. She'd be like, wow, you really know. I think I did Dollhouse for, like, Josh Richards and I never posted it. Wait, why? It was just, like, sometimes I, like, have videos and they sit in my, like, archive, if you

will, for, like, months until, like, I feel, like, Jimmy Fallon, like, I was waiting for, like, the right moment to put that one out. Did you just see him at the studio? Yeah, like, I was, I think, like, honestly, like, someone else was doing a press run or something and I think it was literally for, like, Matt Rife. very random some of the people are right and then like I literally was like basically it was like I I know when it's like all right the press run is going to be here and it

ends at this time and like some people like to greet their fans after that right so I was like period so I was waiting for like Matt Rife I think and then like Jimmy Fallon comes So I was waiting for, like, Matt Rife, I think. And then, like, Jimmy Fallon comes down. I was, like, I literally looked at Madeline. I was, like, Jimmy Fallon. And I was, like, oh, period. And so, like, I walk up to him and I sing it. I sing, like, some, like, awful original or whatever. And so then, like, I, he's, like, oh, like, what's your name? And I was, like, oh, like, Harry Daniels. He's, like, come on the show, Harry Daniels. I was, like, oh, period. Like, I'm going to, like, save this for when I have like attention wait what that's so great to come on his show yeah i don't even know i've like i i know he like duetted the video like let's see if it happens

like i'm just now expanding my team because like for the longest time it was legit just me and madeline like everyone's like oh like he's a plant like blah blah blah totally it feels that vibe everyone thinks that like my i always get comments like his rich dad, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, what rich dad? You're not a nepo baby. No, I'm like, I'm literally just a crazy person. Yeah, you're that person that gets to be with all the celebrities, which is like, so I'm so envious of you. That's like, so amazing. Girl, like, I'm so envious of you.

You are the celebrity. I'm definitely not, but I love that. No, you definitely are. Like, when you were like, I want to sing to you, I was like, wait, what? Because you had just sang to Addison Rae. And I was like, uh, what? No, you understand when I, I actually like, so with this, I was like wait what because you just think that's right I was like you understand when I actually like so with this I was so

careful I couldn't tell anyone I was doing really especially like in my circle like you are more famous than anyone any idea of how like culturally relevant that's why this is one of the only podcast I was like willing and wanting

to actively do. Me, Jake, Shane, and Cancel. Right. And like Alex Earle. Oh, Alex Earle too. Shout out. I love I love to be in the Gen Z. Well because it's just like I feel like you get it. You know what I mean? Totally, yeah. I get you. A lot of publications and a lot of like people and like I have so much respect for all of them and like of course

I'm gonna like work with like everything. Yeah. I feel like like I always say like I did like I do a lot of those for sort of like my own like legitimacy to establish it. But like this is the first time I feel like I'm doing it for like the people who actually care about me and my videos. Oh my God. I feel like it's like you get it. You know what I mean?

I totally get you. I love you. I love what you're doing. Like I wish I was doing what you were doing at 20. Like meeting celebrities and becoming famous. You were slaying at 20. No, I was not slaying at 20 I definitely was like

a hooker on the street at 20 but that was a slay like you ate like for the plot for the plot for sure always but I just feel like

what you're doing is so cool because you're here in LA and you're going to like a movie premiere or something something like that I'm going to like a premiere for like a TV show I don't even know if I can say it

no you don't have to say it because this is why I come out before I go to the premiere so are you going to sing to people yeah basically so are you going for out before you go to the premiere. Right. Is it something you're going to sing to people? Yeah, basically. So are you going for that? Do you like to go for that?

Or do you like to be like, you just like to go on the red carpets? Do you want to, or do you go for the TikToks? Okay. So like it really, every situation is like different. Like People's Choice Awards. Like I was like, I don't know. I don't know why that time around. I was just like, they're like, oh, like we want you there.

And it was like a whole thing. And then like, I basically like, oh, like, we want you there. And it was like a whole thing. And then like, I basically like, long story short, I ended up on the red carpet. Yeah. And I was just like, I don't feel like singing today. I'm just going to ask everyone. Gay son, thought daughter. People. Oh, that's right.

That was that. And people were like, mad. And so then like this next go around, like, I feel like my next major event after that was like, what Coachella, I'd say, right? Right. And then so that time around, I was singing because I was gonna ask everyone where were you on January 6th and I can't ask people that apparently apparently you couldn't like it was just like a lot of sometimes like I run my ideas by like a lot honestly a lot of my friends don't run

don't run your ideas by anyone just go with it just go with what you feel I like to run things by my friends because I feel like the people who watch my videos are all people who I would be friends with typically and so I'm like okay like you know what I mean but I like to run things by my friends because I feel like the people who watch my videos are all people who I would be friends with typically. And so I'm like, okay, like, you know what I mean? But I think the unhinging part of you is what's like cool. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. No, I agree.

I would love if you just ask people like where you – I just found out about Junior 6 like recently and I was just like, oh, okay. Like, damn, that's a question to ask, you know? Right. I was like, I can't ask this to people apparently. So I was like kind of devastated. But I just went with singing. I feel like you can.

I feel like I can but it was do that recently yeah so I did that to like America I did like gay son thought daughter to America Ferreira and like the journalists and Twitter were like pissed and I like did she answer she was like uh both I don't know because I don't think she even knew what that meant and I was like period like she slayed did you start that I don't know I definitely didn't start it okay I definitely didn't start it because it was like, it was just like, honestly, sometimes I like to like play into the internet more so than anything. So what would you say, gay son, thought daughter?

I'd be like, oh, gay, I have a question. Gay son or thought daughter? And what's your answer? Mine? Yeah. Personally? You haven't thought about it? I honestly haven't.

Okay. So the tease with like gay son is like, okay. I always say my parents actually got both. Like they literally both like they were gagged they were gagged and so i'm like okay like having that in mind like i think gay son's not problematic i think that thought daughter is a lot more problematic but like why that's the thing i've never said everyone was saying that pregnancy or something you know you have to worry about that worm that's tea but like also it's like nothing's. I'm just saying, like. No, tea.

You know? But, I mean, also, like, it could be a serve. Like, imagine, like, imagine the idol Jocelyn pregnancy episode. Like, we would have been relaxing. That would have been coming for sure. Right. I thought she was going to get pregnant in the show. I thought that was, like, part of it.

Because they kept having sex, like, unprotected all the time. And I was just like, oh, maybe she's going to get pregnant. No, because, like, no, because the tea is, remember the scene in the, like, dressing room. Yeah, yeah. Where, like. Yeah, yeah. And she's like, wait, do you have a condom or something like that? He's like, no.

And she, like, shoves them out like she ate. Oh, she really did. I was like, okay. She was literally saying. Okay, safe sex. Like, yeah. So, thought daughter, yeah. Maybe they just know.

Yeah. So, like, I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, things like that. I'm like, well, like, if, like, Jocelyn, by some definition, could be, like, perceived a thought. Yeah. But, like, she's not a thought. She's a queen.

She's a queen for sure. That's true. I guess thought daughters can't exist basically yeah no i feel like thought daughters can exist but sometimes the biggest thoughts are the biggest queens that's true that's wow what a quote right there it's kind of true that scene was so unnecessary now that i think about it why did they even show that what was the point of that i mean like honestly it's like half the show it's like but like that's the thing it's supposed to be like raunchy it's supposed to be i think like that's why like i thing. It's supposed to be like raunchy. It's supposed to be, I think like that's why I like, I resonated with it honestly so much.

It is raunchy. It is in your face. Yeah. It is controversial. It's sexy. Right. And it's, I think that's everything that like,

not even a pop star, pop culture should kind of be as a whole. I think that's why I resonated with it so much. Like, that's the thing. Like a lot of these people who are like, I feel like there's like so many people now who are like prude. Yeah.

That's so true. I don't know where it came from. Cause I'm like, okay, like people like Madonna, we I feel like there's like so many people now who are like prude. Yeah, that's so true. I don't know where it came from because I'm like, okay, like people like Madonna were not like trailblazing for this. Yeah. I think we all got like a little too woke. You know what I mean? I love it too because the sexiness is like not there anymore. So I kind of live for it.

The raunchiness, like you said. It's not even just sexy. It's just like dirty and gross and why are we seeing this? But I love it, you know? Right. Like I feel like you would never have a moment like Britney and Christina and Madonna like doing anything at the VMS. You would never have that. Or even like when Miley was like practically like burned at the stake for the 2013 like. Oh, with Robin Thicke.

Robin Thicke. And then like watching back, I was like, why she ate? Yeah, no, for sure. You're right. And they don't do that. Who would be? What would be? Like maybe Charlie and Addison or something like if they did something crazy.

Yeah, but I think that they like doing that stuff because like they're into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like you can sort of tell like who's playbook. Like I always say like my number one idol is like, they like doing that stuff because, like, they're into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, like, you can sort of tell, like, who's playbook, like, ever. Like, I always say, like, my number one idol is, like, Madonna because, like, she didn't give a f***. I love that. For someone so young, I love that you love Madonna. Well, I just think that, like, it's important to, like, look at the greats. Yeah, yeah, I agree.

You know what I mean? Like, of anything. Wow, that's amazing because my great is, like, Britney, but I was thinking, like, Madonna. But even then, like, she's, like, another one of the greats. I got asked, I think I did, like, What's Poppin', the, like, Washington Street – like, Washington Square show the other day. Wait, what? What is that? What's Poppin'?

You know, like, the show with, like, Davis, the, like, blonde kid, and he goes up to everyone in the park, and he, like, shoves a mic in your face, and he's, like, asks you a question. Oh, no, I don't know this person. No. You ever see the Washington Park – Washington Square Park interviews? No. In New York? Do you know this? No.

No. You've never seen someone come up to you – No, what is it? What does it say? interviews in New York. Do you know this? No, no. You've never seen someone come up to you. You've never seen someone come up to you and like on the streets in New York and like shove a microphone in someone's face and be like, what do you think of XYZ? Oh, not really. I know the Billy guy on the street. There's Billy on the street. It's like Billy on the street for TikTok basically. And so anyway, um, they asked me like, who was your top four, like Mount Rushmore. And I was like, I think I said like

Madonna, Britney, Beyonce and then I said like let's throw someone new in there like Dua Lipa but if I wasn't gonna throw someone new I probably would have said like Rihanna Wait Okay

So just random questions I don't even get the answer I don't even get that question What's a Mount Rushmore? What does that mean? I know what it is What does that mean? You know like

Like who would you make a mountain out of? Okay like You know how it's like the mountain with like the four presidents Yeah I know what it is It's like if I was gonna do one of like pop like, pop stars, like, who would I do? Like, who would be on mine? I don't know who's on Mount Rushmore either, girl.

Why, yeah. Do you know the presidents? Okay, I know there's George Washington. Period. Period, right? Is Abe Lincoln on there? I don't think so. He has a beard.

I don't think there's a beard on there. I don't know, actually. You know, there could be. I have no idea. I'm the wrong person. Should we look it up? Go for it, yeah. If you want a beard on there. I don't know, actually. You know, there could be. I have no idea. I'm the wrong person to ask. Should we look it up? Go for it. Yeah, if you want to look it up.

It's not really like. Wait. Okay, we need to know. We love it. Jocelyn, George Washington. Oh, no service. I was gagged. Okay.

You can go off into Wi-Fi. You look it up. You look it up. Who's on Mount Rushmore? We're like in the middle. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln. Oscar, look it up. You look it up. You look it up. Who's on Mount Rushmore? We're like in the middle. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt,

and Abraham Lincoln. Oh, T. Oh, T. That's what I'm saying. I actually don't know. Wait, isn't Theodore... When was Mount Rushmore built? Because he's like new, right?

I think so. I think he's older. Oh? Maybe like the 50s. Maybe the 50s. Right? Then when was Mount Rushmoreville? He was in a wheelchair I think in Annie. Do you remember?

He ate. No, I don't. I don't know if he ate, but I think he was like the president in the Annie musical. Yeah. Oh my god, wait. The Annie musical? 1927 it was made. Oh? Wait. Wait. That's crazy. So then when the f*** was Theodore Roosevelt? There was definitely a...

Oh, there's two Roosevelts. Okay, I'm thinking World War II Roosevelt. Oh, oh girl so am i because i read the book on eleanor roosevelt when i was like in third grade i was like this queen he was married to eleanor yeah i love that you know so much i like don't honestly i just like i really only know like obscure references no that's great you knew two of the presidents that's kind of everything that's tea. Wait. Yeah, that is tea. You're so smart, actually.

You are. You're very well-rounded and smart. It's actually, like, amazing. I think I'm just, like – I don't know. I always think this. Okay, basically, I always say – I was, like, thinking about this in the shower recently. I feel like everyone's life is, like, done in, like, 20-year cycles almost. And it's, like, you basically, like – for example, like, I feel like I changed so much as a person, like, when I was going through, like, kindergarten to, like, high school and college.

I dropped out of college. I ate. And then, like, then basically, like, no, you know, it's so funny. I, like, literally had to make TikTok work. Because, like, imagine your kid being, like, I'm going to drop out of school to, like, make, like, TikToks. Like, every parent's nightmare. What were you studying? Like, nothing.

They didn't have anything at my school that I wanted to study. So I was, like, undeclared. But you didn't study something to drop out. I like undeclared. But you had to be studying something to drop out. I was undeclared. What does that mean? I basically was just doing like all of the like general classes. So like math. Got it.

And like science. So I get them out of the way. So I could like focus on my like major. Like I knew I was going to drop out. Like I always knew. Because I'm like you don't need college to like serve. You don't need college to serve. So like if I wanted to like entertain people, I was like you don't need a degree to entertain people.

Like either you're going to entertain people or you're're not like they can't teach you that in school and so like wait what were we talking about like why you went to college you dropped out oh tiktok right wait what about it we were saying wait and I forgot right wait wait Wait. Wait. Anyone? Why are you dropping? 20-year cycle. Yeah. 20-year cycle. She literally ate. She literally ate. Girl, this is why, like, she has to, like, help me manage all my affairs. Because, like, girl, I'm, like, I literally, no, I'm, like, this was, like, literally my

assistant. What is this? I love this. We'll go back to that. I need to know about this. But what is this? Okay, this is my, like, stuffed bear, Barry. I've had him since I was, like, seven.

And I'm just, like, I always thought, like, for my first, like I always thought like for my first like ever like real like sit down interview like I need to have him there with me for like the plot for the plot I love that okay she ate I love the car ride yeah no he was my assistant oh he okay sorry we need pronouns on everything these days because I don't know

how was I supposed to know he needed the name tag yeah okay what's his name Barry Barry okay cute yeah that, that's period. Okay, period. Okay, so back to, you're in the shower, you're thinking 20 years. Okay, so I was in the shower

and I feel like it's like everyone's life, it's sort of like made up of 20 year cycles. I feel like I'm so much more similar to the age, to the way I was when I was a lot younger

than when I was when I was a lot more recently. Does this make sense? You relate more to your kindergarten self than your high school self? Yeah, than my 15 or 16 year old self because I was like,

I basically got this like letter my school made me like write this letter to myself and it's like you'll get this when you graduate high school and like I graduated high school a year early I basically told them like if you don't like let me like get out of here and like do the bare minimum credits like I will stop showing up yeah and they were like oh and so like they were like fine and so like they let me go and so like I got it after my first year of college and I only went to one year of college so it was like right after I dropped out and I got this letter from myself like ironically right after I'd like dropped out and it was basically like saying like oh like you should be doing xyz blah blah blah blah blah if you don't have this done by this

time like you failed and blah blah blah and I was like damn and then like I think about like when I was really younger and like I just like did stuff because I liked it so your five-year-old self was saying like you have to do this by the time you're this age? No, like my 15-year-old self would say that. But my five-year-old self would be like, oh, like you should just do things you like and you should just do the things that make you happy. Oh, totally, yeah.

And so I'm like now I'm like so much more in that mentality because I'm just like – That's the way to go. Honestly, like I like saw this quote and it was like the things that you can't run and hide from the things that you like love because like they will find you. Yeah. Last night on RuPaul's Drag Race it was like that too. The moms were saying like, you know, you just can't really tell them what to do they're gonna just do what they want to do and you know you have to let them flourish and stuff like that it's like

the same yeah so so interesting so at kindergarten self what did you think you were gonna be doing i always knew i was gonna be doing this yeah you always knew you were gonna perform oh my god dude i literally used to have like concerts on my parents bed when i was like two and like i would like do these like freestyles and definitely like sucked but everyone's like he ate and then or like I um oh my gosh I have like a bunch of photos of me like holding like j14 magazine for when I was like three who was on the cover when you were three really that's like the ghost are you like so you're but you haven't even mentioned Miley once during this I thought like she'd be on your Mount Rushmore I love Miley I mean like she I have like the Mount Rushmore would be, 10 people if it was up to me. Oh, okay, okay.

Have you sang to Miley? I don't think she's, like, accessible. There are certain people who it's, like. The president. The president is the most unaccessible person. The president is more accessible than, like. Not than Miley. No, I literally, the fact that I have, like, someone I want to video with so bad is, like,

Tate McRae. Like, Tate McRae is, like, literally not as accessible as the president. I think she's accessible. I can't, like, girl. She's at the Aloe Gym a lot. Yeah, yeah, at the Aloe Gym. She ain't. No, like, I literally, like, it was, was like legit easier to get to the president than it was

to like Gracie Abrams some like artists are like kind of under like lock and key basically and you think Miley's one of those I think Miley's probably one of those Taylor oh good luck I got asked about this because I just did an interview yesterday and like would you ever do a video with Taylor Swift I was like yeah if I could get like near her

but you even echoed she was like right if I could get like near her but you even at Coachella because she was like right there you could have gone up and saying to her no I think with that it was like okay so there was like the friends and family section and like I had like an artist guest pass but I didn't have like a friends and family ice spice thing basically and that's where everyone was like meeting her and maybe I did have access to it who knows but I was in the back and then like I was honestly like talking to my fans instead which is like my whole thing is like I'll see Taylor down the road eventually I'm sure I love that I love it like if it's meant to be I'll see them right then whatever there's like a Kacey Musgraves lyric I just heard and it was like

you should never chase a train that's like meant for you and I think it's like tea like you don't have to chase trains that are meant for you yeah it's just gonna be there it's gonna be right so are you like invited to Coachella or like did they ask you to come or you just went on your own that was just like such it was like very it was under like very strange circumstances like I got invited and I was basically just told like run around do whatever you want and I was like period so you were like so you were invited to go and I was invited to go so you're like literally I've never once been invited to Coachella ever in my life like that never not even not even a party I feel like you just need to Coachella ever in my life. Like that never, not even a party. I feel like you just need to tap in.

Like I literally got a call from, I've gotten a call from like so many people this week who are like trying to help me with my stuff. And they're like, oh, so like, what do you have coming up? And I'm like, oh, like I'm supposed to go on Just Trish this weekend. Like, can you get her, can you get me in touch with her? Wait, what? Really?

Oh my God, that's so, okay, no one's ever reached out. Okay, can I tell you how fast Harry with like chaperone is like, oh, you guys like chaperone? Here, I'll put you in a group chat. immediately put me in a group chat with the whole team i've always hated people get so weird and they get so gatekeepy and they get so this and they get so that and i'm like why do you care but how do you even have chaparone's number to put my friend from like childhood, like all this stand. He like, he got, I think he works now for her PR company.

And so when I wanted the chapel video, like I hit him for it. And I was like, Hey, can you get me in touch with like her team? And then like the video ended up happening through like such weird different circumstances but at that point like I already knew him and then since the video had happened I had met other people on our team and so like I don't know how oh right the first I was talking to the team and they were like oh

yeah like I mean like nowadays like we really just want to like we want to do things like do a video with you or like go on Just Trish and I remembered and so the first thing that happened was when I started texting Oscar. I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I don't know if you guys are, like, into Chapel Rome. But, like, her team was saying that, like, I mean, like.

Oh, you said it first. I thought you asked. No. No, because I remembered the team had mentioned it to me. And, like, I don't even know if it will happen or not. And, like, I can't speak for anyone. No, but that's so weird because we've been talking so much about her. And I was like, we need to get her on we need her on

someone was interested that's basically you like reached out or asked and then all of a sudden they started emailing like right away which never happens no it never happens we get nobody and like you said it might not happen because like one time i spiced dm me i was like yes and then like i never heard like from her manager again but still live for that i was like oh she dm'd me that's okay yeah have you thought saying for her oh no did it go bad one time i asked her I was like, oh, she DM'd me. That's okay. Yeah, have you thought sing for her? Oh, no. Did it go bad? One time I asked her, I was like, can I sing for you? She stared at me. And what? She's just like...

She was like, bruh. And I was like, what does that mean? But did you go then? I, it's like, it wasn't a yes, but it wasn't exactly a no. And I was just like... So you didn't sing? It was the video. I was like, sis, you stole my look. When I was like, you and I both had the same idea. I had the wig too. And so it was the video I was like sis you stole my look when I was like you and I both had the same idea I had the way too and so I was like oh sis you stole my look and she's like ha ha ha like I was like okay did she did you post it I did post it

this is in like September though okay so much has like changed oh my god why did you start singing why do you ask I mean like so I mean like I've kind of learned now like ask for forgiveness not permission yeah totally that's the theme there's certain people though where i'm like you've got to ask just to like be polite i guess it's kind of cute too if you're like can i sing for you and to see who says yes like demi lovato like she was like so good she was like but she's into it no she was like sure and like i found out months later someone on her camp basically was like demi you need to let him sing for you and she's like who is that and i don't know how they knew me because i'd done like maybe five videos at this point that's crazy and so like they were

like demi and so like i was like i had my record because i wanted it signed because like i actually really liked it like i went to the tour and everything and so i was like oh like i just want her to sign my record first and foremost and And so then, like, at that point, since, like, I had her standing there, like, I think someone on her team was, like, expect him to, like, he might start singing to you. And so when I asked, she was like, I guess this is what they were talking about. Like, sure. And she had no idea what the fuck was going on, of course. She was just, yeah. And so then, like, I start.

And it's, like, the worst rendition of Skyscraper you've, like, legit ever heard in your entire life. I thought it was kind of a slay. It was, like, fine. I was, like, nervous was like nervous that was another one i was like getting nervous for because like i was like oh like i brought the record like i'm clearly a fan you know what i mean and so like i um i basically was just like oh my gosh like damn and so she's like wow you're amazing and then like i don't think she thought anything of it and then like a week later when i posted it like i made it did you see it did she see it she did see it i found out and i was like oh my god no it made it to like pop crave and i was like i'm famous yes pop crave knows they're up is like how you get

like they're everything we love them we're trying to get them on the podcast we love pop crave so much after this like oh please come on after this pop crave or poo crave i would take either one you know what i mean yeah poo crave is everything i always get me oh my god no poo crave is likeve's everything. They always get me. Oh, my God. No, Poo Crave is like, they always get me, too. Yeah, it's crazy. You weren't the fan singing Celine Dion in the car. No. Oh, my gosh. That girl.

I always think that's you, where she just rolls up the window, the person singing. That's an edit. I feel bad for that poor girl. Oh, was it real? No, Celine's reaction is so nice. Because I remember when it first started circulating, everyone was like, oh, my God, she's amazing. And then someone edited it, and that poor girl got gags. nice because I remember when it first started circulating everyone was like oh my god she's like amazing and then like someone edited it and like

that poor girl got hacked. I love that though. I love that. No. Wouldn't it be everything if she just like rolled to the window on you? I want someone to do that so badly. Has anyone been rude to you? Like for real? No one's been like I don't want to say rude because I don't think that's the right word because no one owes me anything. Like that's the biggest

thing I've had to like learn to separate from this like these people are people too no for sure that's good that you know that yeah and like that's the thing so I never want to say anyone was mean or rude because no one like owes me anything but there's definitely been like interactions and like reactions and whatnot that were like not what I maybe expected you don't have to say like who but like what was the reaction that you were like oh damn that was yikes. Okay like little baby just like went badly like I can like just say that one. There's other

ones I like can't say but like little baby like yeah I'll just say it. Just was like what? You saying? They just like they legit like just shoved me out of the signing. Oh they're like go. They're like go. Was it an actual shove? Like they like I don't think it was an actual shove. It was honestly like so fast. Just like go. It wasn't like, nope, nope.

They're like, we're not doing this. No, I was like, oh, period. You've never been shoved or anything physically? I was once. And it's on video. And it's on my page. Wait, really? Yeah.

I promise we'll blur out the name. What's the name? We'll bleep it out. Promise. I mean, it's on my page. OK. Just go to the Jingle Balls place. And you'll see.

No. You'll have to watch over there i want to know i don't want to say because this person's nice i think it's like they didn't do anything wrong it's like their security okay oh okay i feel like that happens a lot of the security yeah like honestly it's like that's what i was saying earlier it's like certain people like they like are like literally like left under lock and key because like they have no idea what's going on yeah it's, like, that's what I was saying earlier. It's, like, certain people, like, they, like, are, like, literally, like, left under lock and key because, like, they have no idea what's going on. Yeah. Like, that's the thing.

Like, that's why I've waited so long to legit, like, put together a team. Like, I'm, like, literally only now even starting to, like, consider it because, like, I hate when I'm trying to do correspondence with a person or anyone or whatever. And it has to go through, like, 80 channels to get – when I'm, like, why I should just be able to go direct to the source. For what? You're, like, reaching out to them for – Anything. I'm like, why I should just be able to go direct to the source. For what? You're like reaching out to them for? Anything.

Just like collaboration. Collaboration. Oh, can you get me in touch with this person? Like, oh, blah, blah, blah. So you're really just going out there and doing, it's really impressive because.

I mean, it's just like, it's my like degree from Stan Twitter. I was in my Stan Twitter university PhD. Shout out Stan Twitter. Are you still on it? Like, no. Like I just deleted it because I'm like,

honestly like Stan Twitter, it's like a very wide community whatever but like I honestly feel like the same side of stan twitter that I was on like they have not taken well to my videos and not that I really care that they haven't taken well because like okay go cry about it like whatever but like I'm just like I'm not gonna like subject myself to like another platform I have to like keep track of when like I know it's gonna be like like I kind of know like when I'm outnumbered. Yeah. And the thing is like it doesn't matter anyway because a lot of these people are still talking about me regardless. Yeah.

So it's like working. Yeah. Do you have a stand Twitter for you? Is there any like hairy stands? I literally don't even know. Like I barely check. I honestly like I check like maybe like when I'm on Popgrave like I check the quotes. Right.

Because like I kind of like to know like the sentiment of like every video. So that way I can kind of like understand how to navigate the next few ones or whatever. But like I don't really like check to see if like I don't like go through people's tweets and like look up Harry Daniels. Okay, that's good. That's good. Yeah, it's like healthy then. So you're not like too caught up in it all.

T, I think like it's just like I don't know. Like there's like balance and that's something I'm definitely learning too now especially as things are like really like amping up like if i want this to work and i want to sustain this and i want to be able to take the next step like i can't like literally lose the plot yeah that's so smart yeah if i want to do the music like i have to like play the influencer game first and like i can't be so caught up in the influencer game that like i like lose the purpose of like why i even started doing this so when are you gonna put out your music you should do it soon because you're like not to say you're not gonna always be popping but this is like your moment you know what I mean I mean the thing is like I think the

thing that sucks is I have no conception what fucking ever of how much discourse there is or isn't about me but you feel it right like you're at Coachella you're feeling it like you're feeling all these people the president and doing all these podcasts you're doing like you know what I mean like you're feeling the well it's like what I was- Katy Perry was losing her- Didn't she go like, oh, wait, I have to go get someone. That was New You, right? Wait, what? Katy Perry? Wait, what? I didn't know this.

That was an interesting one. Yeah, she had to go get her friend, Mia, because I was singing the song International Smile. Because I blanked with Katy. Sometimes I just blank, and I was like, I can't- world class dinner like that's katie perry like i'm not gonna get like i'm not gonna get away there's so many songs for katie perry i don't understand and i know her songs like legit no like i i actually i literally went to her vegas

residency and everything like i know katie's songs but i just like i blanked and i was like oh i love this one song on her like albumism called International Smile. It wasn't a single or anything, but I just really like that song. Yeah. And so, yeah, I just started singing it. And she's like, oh, my gosh. She was at Coachella because her friend was DJing. And the friend that was DJing, that's who the song was written about. And she's like, wait, wait, wait.

I have to get my friend. That's who it's written about. Wow. That's so cool. So people are excited to see you. Yeah, that one was really cool. I got someone, too, who I literally think I literally think that, like, they love you. Wait, who?

I can't speak for ****, but I'm sure, like, knowing her is, like, I don't know her that well, but, like, I'm sure she loves you. Wait, ****. We can blip this out if you want, but. Girl, you are, like, I don't think you understand, like, how **** is definitely too cool for me, and I feel like, yeah. No, don't call her. I'm going to text her. You're like, no, stop. I'm going to ask. I would get, don't, because I'm gonna ask don't because I feel like she doesn't

like me yeah thank god no service we have to cut this part but by the way yeah we can no like um I like there's so many people like I feel like you have like no conception like you are so beloved oh my god I feel like it's a half and half because I definitely know people like don't like me for sure you know what I mean but we have to cut like this entire sect out or whatever. Like I was like talking to like. And like her friend. Oh, I love her. And like they legit.

She wants to go on the podcast. Her publicist won't let her. And she legit said. She was like. She legit said. She's like, can you please get me a video from Trish? Oh my God. Yeah.

That's actually. I love. Everyone is such a fan. Like you have no idea. We have to at least put that T and we won't say who but I love it you're like she loves you so much but her publicist said absolutely not do not go on Just Drift and I was like that's the T I don't think you understand like you are so

beloved to so many people like I literally think that like this part I was literally coming here I was like help she's like literally like she literally reminds me of Wendy oh oh that's literally I copied everything from Wendy you know what I mean but she's like so real I can't be real I'm trying not to get canceled but I would love to be real like her just say what I say thing is like okay the thing with getting canceled is I'm like even

that and like honestly some of the things people get canceled for like I've thought about it I'm like what would people cancel me for and then think about I'm like oh what like these same exact people canceling me they've done the same thing yeah that's true that's true yeah and sometimes cancellations it's like they could be cute sometimes like if it's not like too like problematic like yeah like i've never gone and done anything like genuinely problematic so i'm like thank god good for you well i'm just like i grew up in the digital age how could i yeah yeah you know it's there forever whereas post like when i made like youtube videos at your age i was like no one's gonna see this no one's gonna care you know what i mean and then like everyone sees it everyone cares like that's the

thing i feel like that's so i feel like people are a lot more, like, privy to that stuff now because of, like, just the way the internet and culture has shifted. Yeah. And whatnot. That's good, though. Like, people should think before they talk in general.

I agree. I feel like it's honestly, like, I saw this feature and it was, like, it was, like, I was reading about it in a book when I was in, like, middle school or high school

and it was, like, it was, like, this girl, like, had patented a software that, like, every time before you write a tweet, it, like, are you sure you want to tweet this? Oh, they totally should. And, like, I think this girl had patented a software that every time before you write a tweet, it's like, are you sure you want to tweet this? Oh, they totally should.

And I think this girl had made the service. But I'm like, honestly, knowing the Twitter I know, people would be like, yup, they're mean. Yeah, someone would post. They're mean. They should do a sobriety test, like blowing into something, you know what I mean, before you tweet. Like a breathalyzer on your phone.

Yeah, because all my videos were definitely just me high on drugs. I'm like, they should do a drug test before you can post or something, because that's wild. Like, check your eyes or Yeah, because all my videos were definitely just me high on drugs. I'm like, they should do like a drug test before you can post or something because that's like wild. Like, check your eyes or something, you know? No, sometimes though, like videos will get, I think like,

taken down for that reason for a community guidelines violation. Oh, for what? Oh, yeah, for just like being high or something like that. Yeah, kind of. But sometimes they don't know.

Like a lot of my people don't know, you know what I mean? I know on Reels, they like do not care whatsoever. Oh, Reels is like wild, wild west. But TikTok, it's like they're a little more like strict or something like that.

But that's why I love Jocelyn, like LilyRoseDepp because she was one that came up to me one time. This is my flex forever. And she's like, I love you. And like her friend was with her and they were like, oh, we love you. And we took a picture on like their phone. You know what I mean? And I was like, okay, that's kind of a flex, right?

Because no one else cares about me. No one else is nice to me. She invited me to her birthday party. Did you go? No. I was too nervous because I was like, she's so pretty and young and hip. And I was so – it was at like – oh, I forget. It's in Hollywood.

It's like Yamashiro or something. Oh, my God. T.D. Yeah. And I wish I would have gone so bad. But I was like – Was this like before or after like – This is before the idol.

But I still knew who she was. And I was still like obsessed with her. And I was still like – she's the only like celebrity that's been like nice to me and that's like come up to me. And I was just like – but I liked her too. I think we had like DM'd or something. I'm like obsessed. I saw a video.

I saw like cantons of her at Erewhon and it was like literally like I fell to my knees. I was excited. It was like I'd been to Erewhon like two days prior. I saw her at Erewhon. That's where I saw her too. So I saw her like at the Grove and then I saw her at Erewhon too. Oh, girl. I'm like so jealous.

Oh, she's like the most beautiful thing in the whole wide world and I'm just like obsessed with her. No, like I literally like I – just like that's like literally like I'm like that's like my hero. I love that you wore the idol merch. I love that you brought this and I'm just like obsessed with her. No, like I literally like I just like that's like literally like I'm like that's like my hero. I love that you wore the idol merch. I love that you brought this and I'm just like, oh my God, we really I get you so well. Like that's what's like so crazy. It's just like, oh my God, everything you're doing is what I wish I could have been doing in 20 or now even. I feel like you did do it though in your own way.

I definitely did not. I definitely did not meet the celebrities you're meeting. No, girl. You literally like Freaky is like a really good song. I do think Jocelyn might have stole Freaky from me though for real for real. Like, low-key. I'm kind of like, that's kind of my song, though. You know what I mean? I get that. I do get that. But they kind of take this from Freaky. Actually, fun fact, I almost sang that one to Aubrey Plaza. I was deciding between that and the Gabby Hanna song because I kept singing Gabby. Did you sing Gabby Hanna to Aubrey Plaza? I sang this song. I caught it. It was like, it never mattered what I had to say.

Wait, which one is that one? Do you know the video of her? I know all her videos. She's like going into the mic. Wait, into the mic? What if the monster? No, that's What If I'm the Monster. She's going into the mic? Never mattered what I had to say.

I was always wrong. Every lesson turned into another long lecture. I don't know that one. She's so close up on the mic. Wait, you know that one? I don't know that one. It was all on my reel. either. She's so close up on the mic. Wait, you know that one? I don't know that one. It was all on my reel. What's her video?

Is there a music video for it? Yeah. No, I think she just posted like behind the scenes studio content. But it kept popping up on my reels and I was like, she ate. I love that that's the one you sang. You should have sang like a monster or something like iconic from her. Oh my God. Satellite.

Right. Oh my God, Out Loud. That's a classic. Say what you mean out loud. She ate. Oh, so good. mean out loud. She ate. Oh, so good. Oh, my God. Have you ever sang to her?

Oh, you have. I haven't. No, someone else sang to Gabi Hanna. There was, like, a knockoff one of you that sang to her. Somebody sang to Gabi Hanna. Everyone tagged me in it. I was, like – Do you think she thought it was you?

No idea. I want to sing to Gabi Hanna, but, like, it was in, like – like, I know where that was because, like, why wouldn't I? But, no, of course I know where it was. No, in her home – like, in her – yeah. It was, like, at her work. And, like – Oh, her work and like oh like she's like retired from the internet now and she's like she's back I think she's definitely like releasing music but she's like doing it on like different terms now compared to like she's not like necessarily the same public figure she kind of

right might have been a year or two ago and no for sure I kind of I get don't talk to their work yeah like I don't want to show up to her like her work and I don I don't even think that that person, like, showed up to their work. Like, I think it was probably just, like, a kid who, like, legit just, like, crossed paths with her. She loved it, though. She was living. No, yeah. She, like, she had a really good interaction. Like, I – like, I – she seemed really sweet and she seemed like she was doing really well.

And, like, I love her. I'm a fan. I love it, yeah. I just, like, I didn't want to, like – like, that was the kind of thing where, like, I – like, I'm not going to go and, like, show up to someone's work. I'm, like – Yeah. There's, like, certain things, like, I consider, like – like, my video is supposed to be fun and lighthearted. Like, I'm not gonna go and like show up to someone's work I'm like there's like certain things like I consider like like my video is supposed to be fun and lighthearted like I'm not invading someone else's privacy for like my own

game I love that so much yeah no I love it people come up to sing to me all the time and I think that's everything I'm like oh I kind of live for this yeah oh my god no my friend said she like met you the other day at like where I never leave my house she tweeted a picture of you guys yeah and I was like. You know everybody and everything. Where were we? What were we doing? Girl, I just so tapped in on the internet.

Yeah, I love that. I'm just like, my screen time is like diabolical. That's so. I wonder what it is. I would love to know. I'll check. Okay. Because I don't think I need service for that.

You can connect to the Wi-Fi if you want. Okay, wait. Let me look at my screen time. Okay. I love that. Oh, period. It's actually been down lately. Oh, wait. Yeah, no at my screen time. I love that. Oh, period. It's actually been down lately. Oh, wait. Yeah, no. It has been down. You've been busy. You're at Coachella. You're traveling.

You just flew in literally right now, right? You just flew in. I flew in today, but eight hours. Wow. That's not that bad. Eight hours a day? Eight hours a day. I mean, that's like full-time job right there. That's a lot of screen time. I mean, to be fair,

though, like, that's, I genuinely think, like, me spending so much, like, time on my phone is, like, genuinely how I've been able to, like, manage all of this. For sure, yeah. Because, like, I just, like, I understand the internet. You have to, yeah. You have to, like, tap into it and, like, know what's going on. That's the thing, but now I'm, like, starting to be, like, I need to tap out, like, kind of, because I'm just, like, honestly, like, I'm doing

a lot of this, like, really cool stuff, and I feel like I don't even get to, like, embrace or experience it. The moment and stuff like that. Yeah. Because like I'm so just like oh like let me check if I got any emails. Like girl the emails can wait. Right. They're not going anywhere.

That's so good to know though. Because you do get caught up in your phone and you just like miss the moment. I feel like it's like it's so ironic because like we're literally both here because of the internet. But like I feel like it's like I saw a video like Madison Beer saying this and she's like the internet was never supposed to like humanity was never supposed to like video like madison beer saying this and she's like the internet was never supposed to like humanity was never supposed to like advance this much like yeah right it's kind of tea like but it's kind of everything because how would we have met otherwise you know what i mean like

the internet's kind of magical that way i think it's like a really i think it was like honestly especially when i was younger like and i had like literally no friends growing up like surprise like i like the internet was like right you get it yeah like the internet was like literally like my only like source of like comfort. But that's what's beautiful. I think there's so many people without friends and they have the social media for that reason and the parasocial of it all. And like rightfully so, right?

You like you get to know someone and you like love them. Like I like love you. I love watching your like all your stuff. And I was just like, it gives you this outlet. It gives you almost like living vicariously through you. Like I said, you know, like getting to live all that fantasy. Dude, like no, I feel the same way about you. Like the little video of you like the literal video

of you on the beach which one which video the one of you like literally screaming fighting the war oh the military one yeah yeah yeah

okay yeah that is a literal that's a classic okay wait what what okay just me yelling just like okay love

it's a literal you understand okay got it I don't get it I reference that all the time it's so funny I love it

I love that I love when I go viral for anything but I also like don't get it at all and I'm like how do I recreate it like I don't get it all the time it's so funny I love it I love that I love when I go viral for anything but I also like don't get it at all and I'm like how do I recreate it like I don't even know

that's how I feel about so many it's like literally the most random video but you found the formula and recreated it and I'm like how do I recreate that

go to the beach and do it in a different outfit it would not it's the same girl like go go get dressed up again and like do it at Air One

I need to go for Lily Rosette and be like ah Lily no I need you I need you to go viral we and like do it at Air One. I need to go for Lily Rose. Right. And be like, ah, Lily. No, I need you. I need you to go viral. We should make a TikTok before you go. We will.

Yeah. And are you going to sing? Or should I sing to you? I feel like I was like, I want to sing to him. But also like, maybe not. Maybe you should sing. I've actually been saying that no one has sang to me before. And it's been really.

I'm just a freak. Yeah. I mean, that's all I know. That would be my literal dream. That's my only song I know. No. My favorite is if you'd be like, I only know the Weeknd songs. I only know the Weeknd songs.

Well, that's kind of the Weeknd songs because it's like the idols. You know what I mean? Yeah. I know. I wish he would have sang more in it. He didn't really sing at all. He has a lot of songs in the soundtrack. Like, this isn't like any of the, like, it's just like him and Future. Oh, I didn't, actually, no, I never really listened to the soundtrack.

It's like, it's good. Like, I do like the soundtrack, but like, of course, like, I'm living for the Jocelyn songs first and foremost. Yeah, I just like that one, too. It's like, we keep referring to her as Jocelyn instead of Lily Rose. I like the ones like, I don't want to do this anymore on my own. What is that one? Fill the Void.

Yeah, I love that one. That one's so good. That one is so good. It's so good. I also think they stole that song from me. I have a song that never came out, and it sounds just like that, too. Oh, I Only Did This to Myself is what it's called. And it's like the exact same. If you put them together,

they sound the same. Is it? No, it was a pop one that kind of flopped. It never came out, but it was just like, it's out, but it's just like no one cared about it.

It's like off Warrior or something like that. Yeah, it's like so old. It should be released. Maybe, maybe I'll do it. What's going on with Trisha Payton's music? Trisha Payton's music is, I think, out of commission

for the moment, but you inspire me. Maybe I should do another song. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think, out of commission for the moment. But you inspire me. Maybe I should, like, do another song. You know what I mean? Yeah. I would love to hear your music. Like, I'm so excited for you. That's every – oh, so you have some already made.

I have. Like, they're, like, made. They're done. They're, like, signed, sealed, delivered, and done. Oh, put it out on your own. The thing is I'm, like, waiting for my moment. Like, everyone's like, this is your moment. But I'm like, I feel like it's not.

You'll have more moments for sure. But I feel like if you put something out, like, a record label is going to be like, oh, my God, this is everything. Because people will, like, kind of gag for it. And, like, people will sing it's not. You'll have more moments for sure. But I feel like if you put something out, like, a record label is going to be like, oh, my God, this is everything. Because people will, like, kind of gag for it. And, like, people will sing it to you. You know what I mean? I feel like I need to, like, establish some sort of, like, credibility for it, if this makes sense.

Yeah. Because right now, like, everyone's like, oh, like, it's like, have you ever seen an influencer put out music and everyone clowns? Because they're like, girl, like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, but then it becomes, like, cool later on, right? Like, Gabby Hanna, right? People kind of clowned her for a minute. But then it's kind of like, Butterflies is iconic. You know what I mean? Right. But my whole thing is, and it's like, I'm not like, oh, like, I wanted it becomes, like, cool later on, right? Like, Gabbie Hanna, right? People kind of clowned her for a minute. But then it's kind of like, Butterflies is iconic.

You know what I mean? Right. But my whole thing is, it's like, I'm not, like, I wanted to be, like, serious out from the jump. Because, like, me. Yeah, right. No, but, like, but you never know. You could be, like, Joji. You know what I mean?

Right. Just, like, killing it. I mean, my whole thing is, like, really, though, like, I also just, like, I want to make more songs. Like, my goal was to, like, literally have 100 songs, choose the best five. Oh, my gosh. Well, just put out some to start. You know, if you have a hundred songs put out one i agree i mean my whole thing is right now i have like 50 something and so now i'm like i need to like i need to get to like a hundred that's like my base number and like the reason and like i make them

fast now because like i've changed my process a lot and like i know i'm like kind of working against the clock at this point i mean you're definitely young you definitely have like all the time in the world but you definitely should just put something out I just think I agree my whole thing is I'm like I feel like with culture it's so important to like do things when they feel culturally relevant compared to like when there's numbers on your side because like I had I had like at the start of this year like 200,000 followers and now I have like 1.2 million or something and it's like a lot and there's like a lot going on yeah and it's just like um i'm just like sort of like i want to strike while the iron's hot but i also like i don't want to put out some bullshit yeah like at this point i feel like no one even knows that like

i seriously make music yeah no one knows but i think like i think whatever you do is you will take seriously you know what i mean it's like you're gonna put out trash like everything you do is probably great and wonderful because the thing is i appreciate that yeah honestly i think my whole thing is like i don't also just want to be like, it's here, guys. Right. There you go. You need a big release.

I kind of like, I need to really do things the right way. Well, just don't put it off too long because people are just loving you in the moment. Right. I love you in this moment. And if you're doing all these podcasts, that's when you can promote your music

and your song, and you know what I mean? I mean. Hot Mess Alex Earl, you know, maybe debut it on there. You know what I mean? Yeah. Give it a little premiere maybe debuted on there you know what I mean give it a little premiere I'll come back

I think yes that would be everything we can sing it together I know with it I'm just like honestly like I feel like with my music I just like I feel like I sort of just need to like it needs to just be something that I feel like is actually like genuinely good like no stop like I always say like Born to Die by Lana Del Rey.

Like we are also listening like 13, 14 years later because it's just that good. It's iconic. Yeah. Like. That's going to be whatever you put out. I feel like you're the next Lana. Girl. I feel it.

Those are really big shoes to fill. No, for sure. Next Lana. I'm calling it right now. What should we sing as our. Because I want to do a TikTok too. But what should we sing as our outro? Because like honestly this has been the best thing.

We could do World Class Center. Okay. For the outro. Do you know. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Let's do it. You want to do a TikTok too, but what should we sing as our outro? Because honestly, this has been the best thing. We could do World Class Center for the outro. Okay, yeah, let's do it. You want to do it? Okay. We could do a little TikTok. Yeah, let's do World Class Center and then we'll do it. Here we go. Alright. Are we starting with the chorus or verse or? What do you want to do? I guess the chorus is what people know. Yeah, I mean, what do you know best?

The chorus. Okay, let's do the chorus. I used to know the verses but I'm not well versed. Ready? Alright. Okay, wait, wait. Oh. Oh, get Barry. Yes. Okay, of course. You all have this right here. Okay, let's do the chorus. I used to know the verses, but I'm not well-versed. Ready? All right. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh, get Barry. Yes. Okay, of course. You all have this right here. Oh, yes.

All right. I'm just a freak, yeah. You know you want it bad. And we can be chaps, but I don't need to know your name. Period. That was so good. Yes. Wow, you sound like her. But I don't need to know your name. Period. That was so good. Yes. Wow, you sound like her.

You actually sound so good. I love you. Okay, if the idol comes back season two, please cast me and Harry Daniels. We'd love to be in it. We could be like the stans, the psychos. Right? Like the crazy fans.

The Weeknd actually has a movie coming out about a crazy fan. Shut up with Jenna Ortega, right? Yes, Jenna Ortega. I was talking about this earlier. I was literally talking about this earlier. A crazy stan. And I was like, why did they not cast us? Honestly. I was talking about this earlier. It's like a misery remake. Yes. I was literally talking about this one earlier. A crazy stand. And I was like,

why did they not cast us, honestly? I was saying. Yeah. Could you imagine? That would actually be iconic. Jenna Ortega's like a cute little girl,

like, who wouldn't want to be stalked by her? But it's like us showing up to the weekend's house. He's going to be like, absolutely not, you know? We'd arrive with our vinyls. Literally.

Please put us in that movie. I want it to be so bad. Right, right. Harry Daniels, you're amazing. Check him out on TikTok. Check him out at all the premieres. Check him out with Joe, President Joe Biden, or just Joe. Joe. At this point, you're amazing. Check him out on TikTok. Check him out at all the premieres. Check him out with Joe, President Joe Biden,

or just Joe. Not Joe. At this point, Joe. And Anna Wintour, get him to the Met Gala next year. We need to make that happen. We'll go together.

Or this year, maybe. You going? You'll go first. You'll go first. All right, thanks for watching, you guys. This has been Jess Trish, and we'll see you in the next one.

Well, yes. Well, yes, period. She ate. Well, yes. Did we eat? We did eat. Okay.