Just Trish - Trisha's Mom EXPOSES Her Childhood & Shares Parenting Advice

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

She's SO mother... literally! On a very special Mother's Day episode of 'JUST TRISH,' Trisha's mom is in the hot seat. Lenna reveals what it was like raising a future pop culture sensation, and what it took to support Trish's dreams in Hollywood. Plus, Mamagotback spills the tea on what it's like dating in her 60s, as well as what it would take for her to remarry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey guys, welcome back to the Jess Trish podcast. Today we have a very special Mother's Day episode with my very special guest, my mother. Hey, hi guys. I'm so honored. I really am. I get a whole podcast to myself. Oh my gosh, that's right. You were on Hot Topics once for the Golden Bachelorette and now you're an official guest.

Don't even get me started on that topic. Well, we can. We have two hours to fill. Okay. Well, we might have to. How's life? If you guys don't know, this is my mom. We should have been on the show Smothered. Did you ever watch it?

I've watched the previews of it. I mean, we're not like that. Do I smother you? No, I think it's more about the closeness of the mother and daughter. Well, I think we're closer than ever now. Well, of course. You're a mom.

I'm a mom. We're married and we have similarities. But you would think sometimes when getting married, like, you know, you distance yourself from family or something like that. You don't see your family as much, but I feel like we see you now more than ever. Well, I think some people do, but we live close and we work together and you have a great little family I love. Oh, I know.

I never thought I'd see the day where I'd want to like have my mom live with us again. I was like, I want my mom to live with us. And I feel like for so long we lived together in my 20s, in my early 20s. And I was like, this is so embarrassing. I love my mom. I remember, do you remember when that one boyfriend came over and I think he asked like, oh, are you, like you were, you were going to the bedroom cause we shared a bedroom and he's like, oh, is your mom staying the night? Cause I didn't

tell him I lived with my mom. And I was like, oh, she's just napping here. And I was like 22. And I was like, oh my God, I don't want this guy to know that I not only live with my mom, we shared a bed together. And I was like, I don't think I told you cause I was just like, oh, we shared many beds together in locations. Oh my gosh. That room was crazy. My hoarding, all the clothes. But anyways, it's about you. Happy Mother's Day. Happy pre-Mother's Day.

Thank you. Maybe you'll have Elvis on your birthday. Well, the birthday's passed. Yeah, that's true. But maybe. You never know. Yeah, maybe on Mother's Day. Because you were a Mother's Day baby.

I was. If you look it up, it was May 8, 1988 was a Sunday, and it was Mother's Day because it changes a lot. Right. That's true. And I was in church, and I'm like, uh-oh, got to leave the church early. Your water broke? My water never has broken with my children. Oh, you just felt the contractions.

Yeah. Right. Oh, and it was church? We were ready to go. And how long did you labor for? You were eight hours. Wow. Yeah. But that's pretty fast you hear people like do like 36 hours of labor yeah no i was pretty lucky eight eight and no epidural came

and no because everybody goes oh don't do any drugs so i thought okay i don't need an epidural but now that you tell me how great it is i'm like oh man oh yeah we were talking this morning with my makeup artist too about different birth styles. And I was just like, the pushing was easy because I didn't feel anything. I pushed for three hours. I mean, she was stuck. But I was just like, I could have done that all day because it was just you felt nothing. And they have it now with the epidural button, so you can push it if you want

more. So if you start feeling a little something, you push it, and then it's just like, oh, I feel nothing. Yes. I would do that over again differently. Do you feel all of it? Yes. Yes. It hurt.

Yeah. It was like a semi that attacked me. During or after? After when you're just laying there, it's like, oh my gosh. That's crazy. My dad was present at both of the births. Yeah, he was. He was watching basketball game though.

During the birth or during the labor? During the labor. And I get it but that would be crazy actually yeah but you know it was great you were healthy 10 pounds two ounces that's a big baby that's big but they you know they rushed you off so and your dad didn't go with him it wasn't a thing at the time you know but hindsight switched at birth this is what i'm doing the 23andMe. I'm convinced.

Then we'll have to do it together. That's true. To see like, actually, you should do it because you don't know either. Like your background, your ancestry, you know, you're like German, but that's like. That's true. Well, we did it, remember, but it was so odd. You did it? Remember? Yeah.

It was like no possibility that it could have been. Wait, what? I did. And it came out like I was Mediterranean or part could have been. I did. And it came out like I was Mediterranean or part Middle East or – I do not remember this. Yeah. I'll have to – Are you sure it wasn't Mucky?

I remember we did Mucky. No, I know. What did I do with you? First of all, Mucky is Pomeranian. American Eskimo. Wait, did I – and you must have had Kelly help you. Yeah, Kelly helped me. Okay.

So I wasn't there. No, no. But it's And you must have had Callie help you. Yeah, Callie helped me. Okay, so I wasn't there. No, no. But it's like, I don't know. I would like to do it again to see how different it would be. So you think you're Middle Eastern? Oh, my gosh. That's crazy. My skin is pure white, so I don't know.

You never know that somewhere down our bloodline, I think either on my dad's side or your side, like somewhere, something. Because you're always like, I'm German. And my dad's like, I'm Hungarian. I'm like, okay, but there has to be like more. And no one ever like delved deep into their. Well, they probably didn't have that available, you know, to you back then. And just know what your parents say is 100% true.

So that's what I was convinced. My dad's like, we're Hungarian. I'm like, oh, that's all I am. You know, but I'm like, there has to be something more. And then people would always ask me and they're like, I don't know. I don't think I'm anything. So I'm lost. But we'll take it again together.

We'll redo it. And your dad's very strict on his ways of changing so even if you got it he's like no we're this dad i know i know i always thought about that too i was like maybe i just wouldn't even tell him if it was like a different you know if we're mixed with something i don't know because like maybe he just wants to believe that and that's it you know whatever you want to believe all right so. So Mother's Day, 1988. That was when I was born. Yes. Eight, eight.

That's your numbers too. Three eights. Eight, eight, eight. I was born eighth of 88. Still waiting on that lottery win though. We're ready for it. Maybe it'll be that. My biggest fear is I go into labor and I can't get my lotto tickets for that day.

I was just like, I try to get them in advance, but sometimes you can only get them like the day of if it's like the Powerball. Maybe come door dash with the food they deliver to you. Can I get some lotto tickets? The day after we left the hospital with Malibu, I remember when we were coming home with her, I'm like, I need to stop and get my lotto tickets. And Moses dropped me off and I went in with my C-section. Maybe I can get them on the way to your house to take care of Malibu. No, come straight away because the contractions.

Okay, so, but it's you. You're my mother. So today we celebrate you you've been on my podcast before how does this compare to the other ones that i've done i felt more pressure because we talk about the golden bachelorette and it's like oh the first time you're on this one what about the one in uh studio city remember being on that one with the pink couch oh yeah well i was on that a couple times. What did we talk about? I don't remember. It's a little different setup though now. Now we have camera crew, lighting.

Purple flowers grown in your garden. Oh, yeah. Do you know what these are called? They look like violets that grew wild on our farm. Oh, okay. Well, they're wisterias. It's like wisteria laid for best for housewives. Oh, I got you.

Yes. So they're that. So let's talk about you, mom. What? The people want to know. Because a lot of people don't know. It used to be in my videos a lot. It used to be in my videos a lot.

I would say my mom is – I've always said this. I say it to my husband. I say it to everyone. My mom is definitely my number one supporter from day one. From the time I tried to move out, I was 18. You were always supportive. I lived with my dad for like a couple months. He was not supportive.

And my mom – yeah. I always tell the story, let me max out your credit cards. We got any cash you had, you sent me. Well, you know, you had a dream. And, you know, growing up, I would have loved to have been you, but we didn't have any of those opportunities. So, you know, if you have that perseverance, which I saw in you and the qualities, and now even through many years, your determination, and because you've been, you know, cast aside, you know, and thrown aside, and here you are. You're like on top of the world right now. You have a beautiful family. Malibu's beautiful. Your husband's beautiful.

You're beautiful. And now Elvis. We cannot wait. Your husband's beautiful. You're beautiful. And now Elvis, we cannot wait. Oh my gosh. So, you know, it's just life changes, you know? It is crazy to think about, well, you were always like, even before I was 18 and moved out, like even when I was a teenager, you let me move out with my dad for a little while because I wanted to act. And then that became a whole thing, but that's not your fault. But you really did just kind of like, let me do whatever, you know, which is like good. Like you're like, oh, you want to go

act? Okay. You can go live. You want to go. We used to meet celebrities all the time in Chicago. If like John Malkovich was in town, my mom would drive me up and it was really Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. We drove to North Carolina when I was 15 to go audition. Like you really were. Yes. The North Carolina trip. You really, yeah. And you really did believe in me all the time like you always did. I always think about that. I'm always like, that's pretty – I believe most parents wouldn't be like that. Like, here, just take all the money I have, which is not a lot.

You didn't have a lot at the time. You know, like take every money I have, all the credit card I have. And, yeah, it paid off in some capacity, I guess, after time. But it was a struggle for a minute. I think you have to believe in that person. I think that's why so many parents don't do anything for their kids. Not that my parents didn't, but we didn't have money to do any of that. So what little we did have, I thought, you try and make it big.

I thought it was cool he wanted to be an actor because I thought, that is just awesome to have that dream and be out there in Hollywood. It was fun. It was fun for that like year and a half. And I just – I always remember that. That's why I'm like to this day I'm just like I should have retired like you earlier because I always think like when I did all those music videos when you were still like working at the airport and you couldn't like walk because you have your hip problem.

And so I was just like I probably should have – instead of paid $60,000 for a video, I could have paid $3,000 a month for like, because my mom really did give me every single thing. Like never ending too. Like up until I'm like a full grown adult. She's like, if you need money, we have the same, we have each other's bank accounts, like that kind of stuff. But you know, that's hindsight comes into play, you know. I know. You were doing your thing, which was cool. I never even thought of that at all, you know. But I didn't know how bad you were like struggling either, like with your physical. It's like so weird though. It's like now like you like thrive physically. Like, you know but I didn't know how bad you were like struggling either like with your physical it's like so weird though it's like now like you like thrive physically like you know what I mean now that you're not on your feet all the time like I see you I'm like you're so active

you're like go to the gym like stuff with Malibu and I was like it's kind of crazy what like not working you know like I think working just puts so much stress on people and I really feel like our I don't know like I think the system is messed up where they don't give you your money until you're like, what, 65 or something like that? Or 62, you can start. But then it's like less. Right. It's like less. It is, but it's so worth it.

I mean, you know, because we may not live to be 67 when you can take it. Like, you know, like when my dad retired and got it, he only got two years of his, you know. Right. And that's sad. You work your whole life, you know, and. It's kind of a scam if you think about it, right? It is. Because then they're like, oh, wait till you're seven. Maybe the chance that you're not going to be alive by then. And like, well, just keep that money because that money doesn't go anywhere. Right. Which is like so crazy. But you've like really thrived, I feel like since like not working. Because my mom,

by the way, worked so hard, like literally always talk about like three jobs like all the time, like bartending, bus driving, and substitute teaching, or you were like a teacher at eight, I guess. Yeah. And you did all those at once. So you would like drive a bus in the morning at 7 a.m. Then I would go with special needs children. I would do autistic students,

and I did a blind high school student for a couple years. Then you go on the bus route again years and then you go on the bus route again and then you go take like the sports team the football team to a game and something but and then bartending at the country club to like one in the morning yeah and then doing it all again then I did the post office because we were we wanted to I wanted to make more money and then um it was so hard back then they didn't't have like after school daycare to take care. So it was hard to find somebody to, you know, meet you guys off the bus or whatever. No one did though, right?

We were talking about that too. Like my makeup artist was like, we just watch ourselves. I'm like, I kind of did too. Well, yeah, you know, the oldest was 12. So at that time that was legal, I guess. But yeah. It's a different world now too. It is.

I mean, granted, back then it was like probably wild too you just didn't hear about it as much but yeah and you know we were out in the country more and I think no social media too so no one you know what I mean now people see kids and can track and like all this like stuff like that I think but I remember but I think it was common for our generation to watch ourselves because everyone I talked to was like, we just watched ourselves. We did too. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, it wasn't there, but. Yeah. Glad to be where I'm at now. I love my family so much.

I mean, they're my life. And I say to Trisha all the time, this is the happiest time of my life. You know, I have, don't have to work all the time. And you get to enjoy your family, which is, you know, kind of backwards because when you guys were little, you don't enjoy you as much as you can. And so now I'm hopefully trying to make up for it. What's better than a well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue that was carefully selected by an Instacart shopper and delivered to your door. A well-marbled ribeye you ordered without even leaving the kiddie pool. Whatever groceries your summer calls for, Instacart has you covered.

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That's why grandparents really do enjoy their kids more. But that's why we're so lucky that we literally go upstairs and Malibu is there or we do it twice a week or whatever. But it's really sad. It's sad that you don't get more time off after you have your baby. It's sad we have to work five days a week. Like I just feel like there should be more done. I don't know. With all the money we pay toward taxes, it's like you could give everyone like a day off

and pay them, you know? Exactly. Something. It just doesn't seem fair with any of that stuff. But you worked – yeah, you would work the, then you would bartend. So it's not even like little jobs. You were doing like laboring jobs. Like, oh, and you delivered mail in one of the dangerous cities now in the U.S., Rockford,

Illinois, which is like the third, it was like the third most dangerous city like 10 years ago or something like that. Right. Well, that's one reason I thought, you know, I had, when you first start out, you get all the bad areas anyway. And you're walking. Yeah. And there're walking. Yeah. And there was an incident on my route.

And I came home and I know I asked you guys, I go, is it more important for us to have the money or for me to be here and, you know, maybe work at the school and be there for you? Did you ask us? I don't remember. Yeah. What did we say? And you're like, oh, no.

Yeah. We'd rather have you home. Really? Yeah. Okay, good. Thank God. I was like, yeah, we'd rather have you home. Really? Yeah. Okay, good. Thank God. I was like, what did we say? No, so.

You were gone a lot. You were gone a lot. It was a great job, but, you know, the area was, it's not, you know, if you're not safe and you got children, if it was just me, I'd be like, okay, whatever. But, you know, I hated to see you without, you know, a mom. It is weird. It is like in the moment you don't think about it. But yeah, looking back, you're just like, oh my God, you guys.

And you worked all the time. So it's like, yeah, because then on the weekends we could go shopping and we went to the movies. I always remember our thing. And that's why I like going to the movies with you now. I always tell Moses this too. It's just like that was always our thing. Every weekend you're like, let's go to the movies and get all the popcorn and nachos. And you took us to see Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

You took us to see everything. First of all, we walked out on that one. That was so scary and I've never been like that scared. We all were. We all slept in the same bed. I think I was 15 and maybe Callie was 10

and we all just slept in the same bed for like a year after that. That was a string, that was like a string of, it must have come out around 2001 because I just remember it was like that and I want to say it was like.

Freddy? Like Freddy? You mean the horror films? The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I think came out around the same time as September 11th. Because I just remember all of it happening at once. And I remember John Ritter dying. I think it was all at the same time. And I just remember being scared of the world.

And I think I was homeschooled at the time. I think this was after I moved back from my dad's house. And I think it was like all around the same time. So I was home alone. So we had watched Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And I was like so scared because we lived in dad's house. And I think it was like all around the same time. So I was home alone. So we had watched Ashton Chastain on Massacre. And I was like so scared because we lived in these like apartments and I was like so terrified of it all. And I was just like, but I think it was around that time because I don't know why September 11 like traumatized me. I have no idea why. We didn't know anyone in New York. It wasn't like that. But I just remember being like so scared. I don't know why. And I just remember sleeping

in your bed until I was like, yeah 15 16 yeah it's scary for a child no matter what age or even adults you know right because you don't know if something else was going to happen or whatever but and then did grandpa pass away that year yeah that one like just a couple weeks later I I think yeah a couple weeks later so it's just like a I just remember that time being like so traumatized that's why I don't watch the news I think I people are like oh you're ignorant for not keeping up with politics or something it's just like a – I just remember that time being like so traumatized. That's why I don't watch the news. I think people are like, oh, you're ignorant for not keeping up with politics or something. It's just like I was so traumatized by September 11th. I still don't understand it. I think it's just like that series of events.

And I just remember like sleeping in your bed the whole time and just being like so scared. I don't know. Well, that too. And they had showed it at school because they had showed it without them blocking anything out. Oh, yeah. Because later they blocked it out, but they showed it actually happening at that moment. Oh, yeah. It was terrifying.

Oh, yeah. All of it was. That's why. Yeah. And then I remember when Grandpa passed away, I remember you coming into the school crying and I just thinking like, oh, my God, what happened now? Because it was just always something. Right.

Anyways. Well, at least we had Cherry Velma. Woo-hoo. Shout out, Cherry. Shout out. That food court. Oh, Cherry. That food court. Oh, man. That food court was so good.

I loved going there for the fried rice. We got Cinnabons, the pretzel. Those were good memories. Right. Like, it is weird how you, like, block out so many of the bad stuff that happened. Because, obviously, my school trauma, you guys know, like, went through a whole thing with school. My mom knows, whatever.

But you would always come. Like, when I would tell you, like, girls bullying me, you'd be like, you, you come with me to the principal. But the principal and I'll never do anything. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah, I was a good old boy school, unfortunately. Oh, still to this day, we get into that whole thing about whatever. We always talk about it anytime stuff comes up about, because I talk about it a little bit here and there, but my mom will be like, I'm like, I can't even like start talking about it because then it opens up this whole camera. Exactly. Whole thing. So I shut them worms up. And we're so far removed from that now, which it is so crazy. We talk about like, it's not weird. That was like our life, like the Midwest. Yeah. That is so weird to me.

It's like another life for me. Totally. We don't grow up on a farm and bailing hay and feeding the hogs. Do I anything yeah not a thing really because we had one bathroom and one tub to share for three girls and my mom and dad and then we had a dog we had all these kitties and no i don't it was a tough time you know old you know farmhouse and we rode the bus it was safer safer times too Did you? Safer times too, but yeah. Right. Because you guys were like in the middle, literally in the middle

of cornfields. Yes, yes. Which is like crazy. But I always wanted to walk to school. Maybe that's why I like to walk now. You were so far.

How would you have walked there? No, I always wanted to live in town. Oh. So we could walk or they all walk with their friends. I thought that was so cool.

Oh my, well now you walk everywhere. Now I'm going to walk everywhere, every place, all that stuff. It's so funny. So you're so lucky. You get to stay home with your children and your husband too. Moses is wonderful and you're just very lucky. You don't have to go through a lot of stuff.

Oh, I'm like thankful every day. I literally do. I was talking about this for my birthday too coming up and I was just like, just on Twitter and I was just like, I was like so thankful. I asked me too like, what do you want for your birthday? I'm like, I literally don't want anything because like it couldn't be the most – it's like the most perfect scenario. We get to be at home.

Moses is here. You're here. Like I literally have so much support. I'm just like, this is all I want. And it's kind of perfect that we all get to be together and we get to be close to each other. We just like a good meal for our birthdays. For – oh, yeah.

Mastro's. That has been our thing now. We were Saddle Ranch people. Before Saddle's. Oh, yeah. Mastro's. That has been our thing now. We were at Saddle Ranch. Before Saddle Ranch was cool, we used to go. Because Saddle Ranch became cool in 2020. That's right. Like with David and the vlog. So everyone was going there.

All the TikTokers. But I was like, we were going there, what, 2007? And every birthday we did was at Saddle Ranch. Is it still like popular now? Yeah. We haven't gone for years. It's just swarmed by influencers now. But it's like when we went, I feel like it just wasn't – the food was great. The nachos, the mac and cheese.

Right. All of it was so good. Growing up, you just said you had three – it was three girls, three sisters because we have two girls coming. And I was just thinking like we always say like, oh, will we try for a third? It'll probably be another girl. I would – in our family, we have a lot of girls, like our nieces and stuff like that. So did you like having – I always ask – I asked one of our cousins this. I'm like, did you like having a sister? She's like, yeah. She like waited.

I was like, did you like having sisters growing up? You know, I did. My older sister always would try and help me with my hair because my mom wasn't into makeup or hair. You know, she just had the short, natural, wavy hair. But I always wanted to look pretty. I always thought that's why I didn't get cheerleading in eighth grade because I didn't look pretty. Why did you think you looked pretty? I didn't look pretty.

I was not. But what made you think that? Did someone tell you that? Like, most kids don't know they're not attractive until someone tells them. And seventh grade, you don't, you look at other girls and you think, oh, they're really cute and pretty. And I had, you know, just didn't do anything with my hair. I think I washed it once a week and, you know, glasses.

It just, and then my mom, sometimes she would cut it so short and she'd give me this big wave on top. I look like a boy, you know, it's like. I had some of those haircuts too. I had a lot of short haircuts. Thank Callie. And a lot of, when I was doing YouTube a lot of times, I'd get comments like a boy, you know. I had some of those haircuts, too. I had a lot of short haircuts. Thank Callie. And a lot of, when I was doing YouTube a lot of times, I'd get comments like,

well, why don't you dress your age? Why don't you have short hair? But, you know, I didn't get to look pretty back then. I never had really long hair or makeup at all or any clothes. I couldn't remember one thing I wore back then. You know, we would go to, I think, Montgomery Wards, probably sometimes Stop at Goodwill, but, you know, I think I maybe only had six outfits. Between all of you girls, you only had six outfits or just you? You might see my older sister got more, like Callie says you did.

She always had cute stuff, I thought, you know? Callie did. I know. She says that. I get it. But it's also like she had really – I feel like she always had the cuter clothes for sure. I mean, she was smaller, so I always thought maybe she just could fit into cuter stuff, but – No, I remember going She says that. I get it. But it's also like she had really – I feel like she always had the cuter clothes for sure. I mean, she was smaller. So I always thought maybe she just could fit into cuter stuff.

No, I remember going in one time in her closet when she said that. I'm like, oh, my gosh. She doesn't have any clothes in here. Really? Oh, that's so funny. I felt like such a bad mom. Well, you know what? I don't know.

I feel that way too with the second one coming because it's like for the nursery. It's like Malibu didn't use hers. But it's like, you know, so we didn't do like a big spectacle. I mean, we're going to do the playroom something Elvis themed themed, but I was just like, oh my God, I hope. Because I think when I had Zach sang on, he was saying, I always remember my older sister having a first communion, but he didn't. And I was like, oh no. But it's like, you know, you go through it with the first one. You're like, is it worth it for, you know, to have a nursery for, you know, she's not going to remember.

Exactly. I don't think I would have had that been like that. Like, oh, where was mine? You know? But then sometimes, like you said, Callie will bring up stuff, my little sister, and she'll, like, bring up stuff. And I'm like, oh, my God. Maybe that does, like, trauma affect them.

I remember you would always get us, like, Christmas presents. And you would show us, like, who wants this? Who wants this? And then. Oh, really? And you guys got to choose? You had the big stitch. And then that mannequin.

Remember? That purple polka dot mannequin. Oh, really? And you guys got to choose? You had the big stitch and then that mannequin. Remember? That purple polka dot mannequin. Oh, yeah. And I think I wanted one and then Callie took the other and then I wanted to switch. And then I, like, made her switch me. And I was like, I feel like she has a lot of little sister trauma. So I'm going to try our best with our two girls to keep it. That's true.

But then it's like, also, do you just buy them two of everything? Like, it's just such a – like, do you just buy the same thing for both people? Well, I think for two, I think they share more. When you got the third one, that's when the problems start. Cause then two can gang up on one.

But Nick had left and that's when that happened. So it's like, Oh, okay. I don't know. Like what would be the solution? And we were five years apart, so it's a little different,

but. Well, at least you all are together now. Now I really appreciate having a sister. I think more. You do it when you're older. Yeah. Growing up, I liked having a brother.

I felt like, okay, he takes care of everything. But now he has his own family. I did. I always wanted a brother. Yeah. You know? Because I see them taking care of him at school. If a bully comes out know the big brother will go

take care of it yeah but then i feel like when they get older the brother they always say goes they kind of like you don't see them as much right they become like part of like right yeah you know they get a girlfriend or they get married they tend to go towards the wife's side yeah which is like fine obviously but it's like i think you appreciate them more the closeness of the right sisters i mean we're happy. Honestly, I was happy with boy or girls, but I think the girls are just like super special. But I was interested because you just only had sisters. I was like, oh, I wonder how that was to only have sisters.

Yeah. Well, see, my younger sister was five years younger, so she was more a mom's girl. And she didn't play with us a lot. It's kind of weird, but I guess we were out doing our own thing, you know? Yeah, because you guys are closer in age. Way too far. So at least your girls will be close. And Moses is a great girl dad.

Yes. He keeps it all balanced over there. Are you on camera? You're not on camera. I thought maybe you were setting it up. Oh, well. I can set it up. Oh, okay.

I get it up here. I know. Sometimes I talk to him and he can't hear the microphone. When you were growing up, what was your biggest dream? What was my biggest dream? I don't know. Sometimes I talk to him and he can't hear the microphone. When you were growing up, what was your biggest dream? What was my biggest dream? I don't know. Back then, I don't think we had dreams. What?

You didn't dream. Even when I went to high school and I remember meeting the counselor, it was like college day and I remember going in and he goes, are you going to go to college? I'm like, no. He goes, okay, bye. Wait, who said that? My counselor. He goes, okay, bye. Wait, who said that? My counselor.

He said, okay, bye? Yeah. He didn't, you know, try and say, well, you know, because I didn't know you could get student loans because I thought my mom and dad can't afford that. So I'm like, okay. And then I thought, well, what am I going to do, you know, for a job? You know, because, you know, back then it's like I got to leave when I'm 18. What am I going to do, you know? Oh, you felt that back then? Yeah, I felt, yeah. Oh, interesting. But didn't you, you didn't stay, you didn't stay with them past 18?

I think I stayed till 19. And then I tried, started working because back then you get, I rented a room. I remember there was three of us and it was room for a hundred dollars a month, three of us. And we had a share tub. And I remember this one three of us, and it was room for $100 a month, three of us. And we had a share tub. And I remember this one girl was not – she was not hygienically correct. And they always had to walk through my area to get to the bathroom. I mean, it was only one room with the bed, right? But still, yeah. That's what I could afford.

I don't know. Why didn't you just stay home? That wasn't an option? You were so close to them. You lived like 10 minutes from them. No, but I don't know. My mom's like, stay home? That wasn't an option? You were so close to them. You lived like 10 minutes from them. No, but I don't know. You know, my mom's like, well, you know, you're 18 now. You have to start paying for health insurance and pay for your own doctor's visits.

They were like, bye. I mean, we weren't that poor, but I thought, wow, that kind of was shocking. At 18, that's a shock. It just kind of kicked you out, you know? That's great. Did you feel that way? That's so interesting. I do.

I felt that way, but, you know, I never heard what my dad's side ever was. Right. I wish you could ask him now. But, you know, I never heard what my dad's side ever was. Right. So. I wish you could ask him now. You'd be like, so what did that – I know it's so weird when you're like an adult and you're just like, okay, wait. I have a different memory of this happening. I wish I could have clarification.

You're pretty – well, you don't remember a lot of things. But then my dad will like have no openness and I'm just like, okay, I get no clarity. You know what I mean? Like I don't remember. And then my dad will be like completely shut off. Like I don't even think my dad – I swear my dad didn't even have us because he doesn't remember us as babies. He'll always ask me, I'll be like, how do you feed – how do you know when she's hungry? I'm like, didn't you have two babies?

How did you know this? That's hard to believe because we had so many videos. And all you had to do is watch the videos. It's like, oh. And he would play with you guys. And we'd go out every weekend to Disneyland or Knott's Berry Farm. I mean, we were always busy. Because he blocked it out.

I guess. It is weird. We were talking about this the other day, too, how, like, our generation or my generation seems to be trying to stay together more because we had such a string of divorced parents. And now people are trying to make the marriage thing work. Not that it didn't work, but it's just, you know. Yeah, I think children of divorced parents, that next generation, I think they're going to stick together and make sure they find the partner that they want. Because my brother has a great track record. He's been with his person for like over 10 years, like 12, 13 years.

So that gives me hope. I'm like, okay. I know. That makes me happy because certainly I would have done it different, you know? And I know they say, well, you don't stay together if you're not. But, you know, it's okay. You can get along, you know? Yeah.

We just had, you know, different areas. Like, I wanted to be back in the Midwest because I thought it was safer to raise you guys. And he always, you know, wanted to live in California. Well, I think it is so hard without family around. Like, you had no family. That was a big thing. I could not imagine being in a different state than you. Like that'd be like so crazy.

Right. Yeah. Especially, I don't know. You just really need help and it's just nice when it's family. And I think girls in general need to be by their mom more. Yeah, for sure. Like boys, not as much maybe. Yeah.

I don't know, but. They're out. Free spirits. I don't need my mom yeah right they just do their own thing but i i definitely feel that way too i have like i just need to be close to you and that's like would be hard to not have anyone and you didn't and so anywhere in california and it's a whole different world and right right so true and then that this looks like pretty no i'm looking at your white teeth i I whiten mine, but mine don't get whited.

Mine are not white. I need to go. I haven't gone to a dentist in 10 years. I told you I need to get my, you don't have any plaque. Yours are so big. And mine has like plaque on buildup and all that stuff like that on it. Well, I, you know, since the. Tell me.

People need to know this, but since the COVID hit, I have been, there was this one guy, he was like 28 years old, never went to the dentist, never had a cavity. He goes, I floss every day. I'm like, so since COVID, I was flossing since all the dentists were closed down. So I've been flossing every day. Oh, did they shut down during COVID? I guess so. I floss every day.

Most of the time. I used to never floss. I didn't either, but since then, I'm like, maybe if I floss every day, I want to go to the dentist until I pass. What? Until you're – what? What? Until you pass away?

Why would you go to the dentist then? No, I said maybe I won't have to go. Just ever again in your life? Ever again, yes. I guess that's your choice. I got all the toothpaste. But then you're going to be 100 years old and your teeth are going to be missing.

Well, then I would, you know. But if I go to the dentist, my teeth are so sensitive. Mine too. And I would have to be put out the next time I go because they hurt me that's why i don't want to go i know he hurts me and even the dental hygienist she'll get that

you know one spot where you go oh my oh you know it just tingles and you're about ready to just fall over and then you get it again i'm like okay i'm done i can't do it it's like i just yeah it's when your root grows back from your... Is that like a root canal you would need? I don't know. I had a root canal. You did? When? Oh, that's... I think... I don't know. They take the nerve out, you know? Oh. I think I had two, but yeah. I just... Yeah. I'm going to find a doctor that puts you under that nitrogen oxide. I think just finding the right dentist. I'm sure there's someone that's gentler or something. Maybe.

Like different hairstylists and stuff like that. If you guys don't know, my mom and I, we do also work together. Actually, you probably work now more than ever, I feel. You're not physically waiting on people because my mom always was in the service industry. Well, you bartended for, what, 30 years or something like that? Up and on. Probably more than that, than that it's a good backup job i gotta tell you though tips are everything except now i don't know if they're making 20 bucks an hour now it's like do you still tip but that's the controversy yeah i think you're supposed to still tip why would you not because back then you were making three dollars an hour so people

would tip you but i think people don't know that now. They still like, it's still service. You still tip, I feel. Yeah, maybe. But I think you've been bartending longer because when did you retire? From the airport. Well, 2018. So six years ago, I started doing your posh. I cleared out all your warehouses.

Literally, my storage units. There's one comment all the time in every video. Show us a video of the storage unit. Like every time I'm like, okay, well they're gone now. They're done. She didn't do that. I should, I don't think I was doing social media that much though yet. YouTube? I don't know. And why did you even do it? Cause I was like, I'm fine leaving in the storage unit. And all of a sudden one day my mom was just like clearing out all my storage units. I, well, you were paying so much and you lost a key to one. And it's like that, you said, you know, on Poshmark, we had dilly-dallied with that for a couple of years. That started in 2018

too, right? Yeah. So I thought, you know, I went and got a U-Haul, just did it all myself, loaded it. Which is like crazy. I don't know how I did that really, but I was stronger then. But you were still 60 and that's when you had your neuropathy. I'm just like, how? I guess I don't know where I was. Wait, wait, wait. 59, six years ago I was 59. Oh, wow. Really? I feel like you're still energetic and moving. Wow.

Oh my God, that's crazy. That was 2018. I don't know where I was because I don't remember you doing this. I don't know where I was. I know. Where was I? In fact, remember that big Hello Kitty desk you had back at the beach in Playa? Did you sell it? I love that desk. And it was clear up on top of the box.

I was like, how am I going to get that down? And how did you? I kind of put it on my head and put it on the... Oh, my God. You kind of hurt yourself. That's so crazy to think about. But I did it. And then the other two.

I was just interested to see what was in it. And then I put it in a bigger storage where I lived. And yeah, I know you said, oh, show all the people that. But I just wanted to get it up. People wanted to see it so bad, and you never did. And I was like, oh, man. See, I don't think I was on social media then. You definitely were, because you were doing lives in your Hermosa Beach.

You were cooking. Right, but I think I did that all before. And you had gotten mucky that year, so you were showing mucky. You were cooking. Right. But I think I did that all before. And you had gotten mucky that year. So you were showing mucky. You were definitely on YouTube for sure. But I think I was living in the gallery at the time. Oh, okay. So...

But 2018, you also got mucky. You lived in the other one with the two windows. That's probably when I started more so. And you were cooking. You were doing the most. But I started with the loft first. So... Oh, okay.

I didn't know that. But yeah. I know. I wish I would. It was pretty interesting. It looked a mess. You know, I had boxes. Things were falling out of the boxes. And you're still doing it. And now when she comes over, she's always like going through stuff. What can I posh? I know. We have a garage full of boxes still. Not too many.

You have, Moses, there are 50 boxes in that garage. 50? Thank you. Laughed. Yes. 50 boxes. No way. Maybe 10. You think there's actually 50 boxes in there?

You need to take her on a field trip too. No, I'm scared. I saw a mouse in there once. Last garage stall. No, I saw a mouse in our garage. Well, I was on a trap and it scarred me. You want to go get water, I always have someone from Glam come get me. I'm like, can you go?

There hasn't been anyone out there or no mice, but you know, we live in a mountain, so it's always a little scary. That is crazy. That was 2018 and you were poshing. So you were still technically working. I always say I retired you, but I'm like, I guess technically you're still working, which was I? If you're doing posh, we're making money off it. I guess I was. But then I think I quit shortly after. You love posh. What is it about posh that you love so much? You know, you have such unique clothing. And you get a lot of comments like that. Like, you have the number one closet, right, on Poshmark.

Is it still number one? Yes. What does that mean? It's, you sell the most. You have the most listed. People say they have the most unique things, which they are. And that's why, like, looking through the boxes back in your past, you bought so many cool things that I never got to see because we never really hung around. You were busy doing your thing and you were dating and I was working and we really didn't do a lot that way.

Yeah. What's the closet? Give a shout out. Trish P88. On Pushmark. That's crazy. It's still number one. My mom ships out.

Every day she's shipping out stuff. I'm like, and I don't even give her new stuff. I haven't given you new stuff in like, I don't know, like a couple months. Not to say I don't have new stuff to give you, but she's like every day shipping out new stuff. And I'm just like, how are people finding this? I have so much to list. And I apologize to any Poshmark people.

I am going to start listing. I've just been so busy with Trisha and her Patreon and watching Malibu, which I love dearly. Oh, yeah. I just love that little girl. We've been stocking up. Oh, she loves you so much, which is so great because we were never super close with our grandparents.

I love them, but didn't see them all the time. So it's like she gets so excited to see you. When we do the podcast, Mimi comes over, watches her, and she just gets like so excited. And then we've been doing the trips together too. Well, we haven't gone on a plane yet, but we've been doing the trips because we get the adjoining rooms and Malibu just loves to go like back and forth between them. She gets – like I truly think she's like happiest. I mean she's always happy here.

She loves to come home and play. But when we're at the hotels, she loves like – even Hera's, which is just like going back and forth between the rooms. She gets so excited. It's so funny. She is. She just loves to play. She does.

She loves her Mimi for sure. She's just like very loving. She's been very like loving lately and stuff. It is such a crazy thing when you have a kid. Like now that I have a daughter, it's like so weird. Like now I just appreciate your mom more. You appreciate your parents more if you had a good parent. I was just like, God, they really did so much, especially you, like all by yourself.

It's like I can never – if I didn't have you, if I didn't have – like just like it's so hard to like – now we have – my sister upstairs watching. It's like if you don't have family, it's just so hard and you didn't have family and you like raised us. It's like pretty crazy to think about. It was hard because I didn't trust anybody even to watch you guys back in the day even, you know? It's like, how do you know? Because, you know, now they're setting up cameras and everything,

not even on their nanny. So that's kind of scary. Or daycares. I mean, the majority probably are good, but you do see some daycare instances where they, like, yell or they, like – and it's scary. You just don't know. And how do you know?

And if you send your child early, they can't talk and they can't communicate with you. It's like, it is scary. It's like, I don't know what the answer is. I don't know what the solution is. But it's like. And not everybody can stay home. So that's sad. That's sad because you just see them grow and change.

Yeah. And every day is different, you know. Even when I come, I don't come every day. But, you know, when I do, Malibu's just seem like she's two months older, you know. Every morning when she comes to the bathroom, I just see her, like, standing, how tall she is. I was like, that is wild how, like, her face is so mature now. And it happens so fast. That's why I think people get baby fever because it's like now I'm so excited to have, like, that baby stage and, like, enjoy it more because I know it's, like, not as hard as I thought the first time.

You know, you have a baby and you're like, oh, my God, how do I take care of it? In hindsight, it's, like, pretty easy to take care of a newborn. Toddler stages are crazy, though. Yeah. She's doing really good, though, so far. I know she's not two yet, but. She's mischievous, though. Sometimes she will, if she brushes, she loves to, like, brush her teeth, but then she'll,

like, put the toothpaste on the floor and look at me and I say, don't do that. And she does. And then runs away. And now she knows when she's being mischievous. She'll go to Moses. And I go, at least she just knows she did something. And I'm just like, like a fake cry. I was just like, I don't get mad.

I really don't get mad. I do get scared. I'm just like, no, like we're taking this away now. And like then she goes to, runs to Moses. So she kind of knows when she's being mischievous. But it's a weird phase she's in right now where she's like – Her faces are the best, though, if you guys see her on TikTok. Even today, we were in the makeup room, and she didn't recognize me with the makeup and everything.

And Trisha's in mine. And here's her face. She's like – Just looking back. Or this. I love that one. I was like, how do they know that? She's so cute.

And now she does cheese. Now she sets up the phone. She'll take the phone and just set it up and perform in it. I'm like, that's so funny. And I don't do it that much that she would see that. But I guess I do it enough. But she loves it. Well, Moses just built a bed, right, for her.

And he's waiting for the mattress. So he has it down in front of the mirror. And she's performing in the mirror like it's a stage. I'm like, oh, my gosh. That's so Trisha. Yeah. She's like, oh. She does love.

She's a performer for sure. I definitely think she will be. I mean, it would be interesting if she's a scientist. I mean, I would love that, too, if she's a mathematician scientist. Well, you made Moses into a performer on the TikToks. The last one was like, Moses is just right on with that character. I kind of is. But he was a secret performer before I met him.

Like, he danced. He did the Jesus stuff, you know. So I think he was. Did you do a movie, Moses? National Geographic documentary. National Geographic, he said. You don't have it right now. Yeah, he did National Geographic.

He did a couple different acting. We need to see that. He did some YouTube sketch. Yeah, he did. I was like, so I think he was always a performer. He just didn't. I haven't come out more in a fish shell. But now he does upstage me. Every comment's always just like, how was this? But yeah,

we haven't done TikTok. We used to do TikToks. We used to be here. My original social media partner in crime. Those cheerleader outfits, I found them all finally. We could do that again. Oh my God. That was 2020. Do you remember the song? Remember? I don't think. They were so small when they came. We all had safety pins in the back and don't turn around.

Oh, yeah. I had to switch Callie because my original one didn't fit. So I had to switch her. Do you remember the song? No. Mom. Yeah, how do you not remember it? Well, play it, Moses. We had two. Oh, I thought he could play it. Copyright. Oh, yeah.

You don't remember? Martha Dump Truck in the Flesh. Oh, yeah. Okay. What's the line? No, we can't. It's copyrighted. No, we can sing it.

Why? Because it's not copyrighted. Ready? Do the next line. Martha Dump Truck in the Flesh. Mm-hmm. Here comes the cootie squad. We should...

You don't remember? No, I don't. Oh, my God. This was a long time ago. Or we did the, I'm going to say a little prayer for you. In No, I don't. Oh, my God. This was a long time ago. Or we did the, say a little prayer for you. In the morning I wake up. You don't remember any of that? I do, but I don't remember the words.

That's why I don't remember words to any song. I never have, since I was a kid, remembered words from songs. I'm not sure you were in plays. You were in musicals. You know, when I was older. So you had a brief thing in memory. I did the one play, so I thought I was kind of starting dementia. So I'm going to do a play and make myself memorize things.

So I did The Little Shop of Horrors. You mention dementia a lot. Do we have that in our family? Because you mention that now, too. You're like, do you actually think you have it or what? No, but I could see me getting it. Because why, though? As you get older, you forget certain words and stuff.

And I don't think that's dementia. But it's like if you forgot where you parked your car. But no one had it in our family that you're thinking, oh, who had it? My grandma on my mother's side had it. And then my grandma on my dad's side, his mom had Alzheimer's. So it's kind of in the family. When she was older. Yeah. Yeah, they were 90 probably.

Grandma Phillips had it? Mm-hmm. She had Alzheimer's and then my other grandma had dementia. They both ended up in a home and that's why I think I want to exercise more and be more active. And they say if you walk with somebody and talk and that cuts down on the dementia risk.

Really? It's like okay well you have cal you guys do it together and the dogs yeah you have a lot of responsibilities you do the poshmark and the dogs and help with malibu yeah patreon my fun too what do you do for fun i eat what i want i know oh my gosh that makes me so happy. I've got to say, the best thing, you guys, I'm not sponsored by Costco, but the frozen grilled cheese they have is so good. And you can make it in a minute or two. You microwave it, and then you put it in your toaster. It is so good.

The cheese is so, I don't know, it's just so good. But grilled cheese is the easiest thing to make. Oh, wow, this is really good. I know we can make a good, but I'm going to bring it. Did you bring them over? I'm going to bring you one. Okay. All right.

I'll try it out. All right. What kind of cheese is it? White or cheddar? No, it's cheddar. It's just something about, I know you think, oh, you know, it's not, but it's amazing. We should, okay. You bring yours over and I'll make mine and we'll do like a taste test to see.

Okay. Right. All right. Because I feel like mine with Havarti, Gouda, cheddar, that's like the best one. Thick toast. I mean, this is what I eat sometimes just for dinner. Yeah, you were like, I can eat whatever I want. But I'm like, you kind of just – what do you eat?

I don't even know. I make salads. Those are good. But I put like bacon and cheddar and cranberry – cranraisins and sunflower seeds. And then I put Thousand Island with a little French in it. And some little crunchy stuff. It's a meal. We have different tastes, but at the same time, I feel like we have similar tastes, too.

Because it's like, that's something I want to eat. But when we go out to eat, you always want the same thing. You're like, I'll just have whatever you're having. I'm like, but do we like the same thing? I don't have chicken nuggets or tenders. Why did I have chicken tenders? When's the last time I've had chicken tenders? Raisin canes.

And you did have chicken tenders with me. Well, that I've had chicken tenders? Raising canes. And you did have chicken tenders with me. Well, that's all we had. We go to Benihana. We get the Benihana trio. That's true. We went to Vegas at the sushi place. We get the same thing. You're like, oh, I'll just have whatever.

You're like, you just, you really do eat the same. I guess, maybe. You don't eat hamburgers. You don't eat sandwiches. I eat hamburgers all the time. Oh, well, now you get, Okay, now you do. Yes. Pasta. Shout out for In-N-Out burgers. Oh man, that sounds so good. We didn't

have a snack before this. We should have had a little snack before this, but I guess you're better at hanging on. Sometimes I need a little snack. Well, I had the cappuccino, so... It seems if I start eating early, I'm hungry all day. Really? Isn't that weird? It opens up your stomach or something like that. Maybe. So I kind of gotta, you know, can't buy a whole new wardrobe right now.

I love my clothes I have now. Get them through the Poshmark. I am a Poshmark. Yes. I don't have anything from Poshmark, but I usually do. Being that it is Mother's Day coming up, what is one thing that you wish you would have done differently as a mom? And what's one thing that you're like so proud of that you did as a mom i think differently

i wished i would have taken more time to you know play with you guys at home do things because you know once you get home from it's like oh make dinner wash the dishes do some laundry you know i'm seeming like i was so busy and i missed out on a lot of your stuff you know my kids is just to play like now i play with malibu you know and she laughs just to hear your kids laugh it's just i don't remember that with you know once i wasn't with your dad and that's what i probably regret when i did get the divorce because you don't realize how alone you are with your kids, you know, and you still have to work. So I miss that time. And maybe that's why I enjoy, well, they always say you enjoy your grandchildren more because, you know, you don't have to go to work.

Can just be present with them. And she's a great little kid. I know. She really is. No, when I see her too, I love, but I love seeing you with her. I love seeing my dad with her. Cause I feel like in that way too, it's almost like kind of heals a certain part of you. Cause you know, growing up, you don't think about it, right? I don't think of like, oh, you didn't play with us or whatever. Like, in fact, I actually have memories. I'm like, oh, we went to the mall. We had fun. But it's like, then when you see like you with her or my dad with her, I'm like, well, listen, I always tell myself that's a different person. Like, especially my dad or something. I was like, who's this person? Like just playing with her,

laughing. And like, I mean, it's good. It's great. It's great to see, but it is a whole different thing. So what is one thing that you're like, oh, I'm so proud. This is like the best mothering tip I could give. I love that I did this. I don't know if it's the best, but I think by working so much just to give you, give you guys, you know, a memory a memory like like going to the mall

and eating out you know that was everything because we didn't do that growing up yeah i mean maybe once every two months we'd go to this jolly troll what's that and we could order hamburgers and fries like for a dollar oh wow it was like so special. And I thought, you know, I want to give you that thrill, like to go out to eat. My mom cooked all the time, right? She was a good cook. But, you know, she was a farmer and I get it. But it's like, so for me, it was fun to go out too to eat. So I think, you know, to give you that experience of not always having to eat at home, you know.

I liked your cooking though. I always thought most of my mom used to cook home, you know. I liked your cooking, though. I always thought most of my – my mom used to cook a lot, actually. I liked her – well, I guess because we eat the same thing now. We eat, like, plain noodles. It wasn't even butter back then. Lemon pepper chicken, biscuits, mashed potatoes, and corn. Those were our two dinners. We had either pasta or – I loved it.

Or pizza. Pizza when we went out. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to think what else we would have. That's it. Sometimes, though, if we ran low on money, we would have to have peanut butter sandwiches.

I love peanut butter sandwiches to say. Sometimes I still have to have that. Maybe that's why, you know. Or grilled cheese. I eat all the stuff we had as kids, like grilled cheese. I, like, love that stuff. And it's kind of interesting. But we didn't have butter on the noodles.

Butter noodles was new to me when I, like, in 2018, I discovered butter noodles. I was like, wait, you put butter on noodles? Because we always just had them dry with the parmesan, which I liked too, but it was just so funny. I was like, that's so weird that we had that. It was good. I mean.

That's so interesting because we did have a good experience. We never went on family vacations, but we did go on one. We went to Suzanne Somers in Vegas. Oh, yeah. 2006, I believe. That's six years ago. It was probably 2003 because I was – Oh, Nick was gone. He was just gone, yeah. And I graduated in 2006, so it wasn't when I believe. That's six years ago. No. It was probably 2003 because I was – Oh, Nick was gone.

He was just gone, yeah. And I graduated in 2006, so it wasn't when I graduated. Right, exactly. So we came out 2003, I think, when Nick was out here. And that trip was so fun because we had never gone on a trip before. We were obsessed with Suzanne Somers for some reason. Was it because she was on QVC or something or HSN? Yeah, right.

My mom loves Suzanne Somers, rest in peace. Yeah, she was on HSN. She was kind of the icon. She was such an icon back in the day. It was the first time we ever learned about a flat iron. Yeah. Changed our lives. Callie got her hair flat ironed by like a demo.

And it was crazy. That was like our first vacation. And I think that's why I have like fond memories of Vegas too because I just remember you must have gotten a lot of money somewhere because all of a sudden we were like shopping at BB. You remember? It was tax refund. Wow. That's why we went to Suzanne Somers.

My tax refund would go to do some fun. Do you remember how much it was? I want to say maybe it was $2,000 refund. And you think we won that trip on $2,000? Yeah. Wow. That's crazy because we were staying at the MGM. We were getting Starbucks. We were buying BB clothes. I mean, that's 21 years ago. Things were a lot cheaper then, too. Rooms, I think, were still

maybe $40. But we had a deal. You paid one sum for all of us and then all that was included, I believe. Oh, with the Suzanne Somers package because we got to meet her go to her shows we ate with her you know we had tables and she would come around and stuff so wow that's crazy all that for $2,000 that's pretty good you know it's so weird because now she's

already she's gone it's like life is so weird isn't it it's just like how can somebody just disappear like that you know no it's really it is really sad. But I also think there has to be something else, right? We talked about this the other day too, just like life after death. You know what I mean?

There has to be something else. We believe that. I know a lot of people don't, but we do. I have – we have to – I mean I want to know there is something that I'm going to see my loved ones, you know? But there just has to be. Like I just think that no matter what it is, if it's heaven, if it's like just another, if there's just like your souls, I don't know. There has to be because like why is life so quick?

What's the point of life? Like you know what I mean? I feel like there has to be something after. Yeah. Just like something before, right? You think about babies being born and stuff like the souls that come through and it's just like they come from somewhere. They just came from somewhere all of a sudden.

You know what I mean? Like it's just, I don't know. It's so interesting. I would love to hear someone's debate on like why they wouldn't believe something just because there's no proof, but it's like, but what's the point of life then? Like, we're just here for 80 years and then. Well, there can't be proof because you don't know until you've passed, you know? Right. And people, people have like, you know, seen the light and stuff that people have been close to death and they've seen the light. They say there's like a light. That interesting to me right they see they're like

no there's a light there that you do see and i have to i have to believe that too like i just have to it's just like it seems because life is so short right you see all these like suzanne summers has this like great life and then it's like right so short and then what happens after that's why you just have to have fun in life that's why i just try to have fun in life and make every day count. Yeah. Because it's like life can be such a struggle. You work so hard and it's like you work to live basically. It's like such a – That's why you have to stay positive as much as you can.

Stay positive. Play the lottery. Actually, I can't say that. That's not gambling advice. I feel like you can't say play the lottery because then people are like, you enabled my gambling addiction. I play the lottery for that reason. One day I'm always like, I don't know even what we would do differently if I play the lottery because then people are like, you enabled my gambling addiction. I play the lottery for that reason. One day I'm always like, I don't know even what we would do differently if I won the lottery.

I don't know. My dad did. He won. He played sometimes. And they had a little lot of what was called back in Illinois back in the day. And I remember he didn't even tell his kids. It was probably my mom said, don't tell anybody. They'll all want money.

Do you think you were, how old were you? I was an adult because I can remember at Christmas time, he gave us each $500. And I remember my sister saying, gee, Dad, did you win the lotto? Wow. And we didn't even know. Did they tell you? They told us when he bought a new Mercury car. Wow.

Yeah, you're like, wow, okay. I know, but I thought that was funny. Good for him. How much did he win? I think, I want to say he only won like $28,000. That's pretty good. Because it was a little lotto. But for him, yeah.

Yeah. That was huge. And they bought the car and they gave you guys money. That's pretty good though. So yeah. So it's in our genes. It's in our blood. It is, you know.

Your generation now. It skipped one and then it goes to me. I think it's what it says for a lot, like twins. Every other generation you have twins or every other generation. Oh, that's so interesting. Yeah, I don't know. We don't have twins in ours. No.

What is one thing that you wish you could tell your mom now if she was here or do with your mom or have her see? Is there something like, man, I wish my mom could see this. I wish we could do this together. I wish she would know this. I wish my mom could see how great my children have turned out. And she would love you guys to death. And my dad especially, he would just think you were like the biggest celebrity on the planet.

He would be so proud of you. And Malibu, my mom would just love her curly little hair and her little movements. And she's just entertaining, you know, like you guys. I mean, they would never in a million years think my children would have turned out, you know. You especially. It's just like, you know. Thanks, Mom. You make me cry sometimes.

I'm just like. My mom does. She like texts me and she'll be like, I'm so proud of you. I mean, it's your dream and it's like that me and she'll be like, I'm so proud of you. I'm just like, oh. I mean, it's your dream and it's like, that's all you want for your kids, you know? Yeah. Well, it worked out, Mama. I always think that. I'm always like, oh God, I'm like so glad

it worked out because you just never know. It could have always gone like a different way. For a minute there, it's like shaky. I remember, you know, when we first moved out to LA and I was like in my early 20s while we were going on dates with my sugar daddy. Yeah, right.

I know. What was it? I think I got $500. Maybe you got $100. Okay. I forgot about that time, but thanks for bringing that one up. And when I say sugar daddy, I really didn't have to do anything for it. We just went out with him.

It was never – I never kissed him, nothing like that. Probably wanted that, but then he got a little scary. I remember one time he had scissors with him or something. But I remember one time too we went out and then he gave me $500. He gave you $100. He's like, here's $100 for your sister. And I'm like, I told my mom, I'm like, don't tell her. I'm keeping this.

I just went out on this date until 2 o'clock in the morning. But luckily my mom could come with us. Oh, hi, Callie. Now you know. I wonder if she ever did now. I was like, no way. Because we had to stay out until 2 in the morning. Remember, did we go to the club with him?

we danced and he was a crazy dancer he looked he had up on the stage I don't think you were supposed to but I don't like in his bibs with no shirt on and then we had to go to Denny's

at 2 a.m. and I was like that's what 20s are all about you're experimenting you don't know what you're doing what you're why you're doing

what you're doing you know it's just the 20s are just I think if you're not kind of wild at some point in your 20s then I don't know you don't get out in life I don't think I'm right back then you know I we had the disco thing I was like disco-ing going to contests were you wild in your 20s? Well, you know, I was mud wrestling. You know, just, yeah, I guess. Not as wild as you, but. Well, mud wrestling is pretty wild back then. You go out and you drink, you dance. We did more dancing, I think, at the,

they weren't clubs, they were bars more so, you know. And you were out. Because you were pretty single in your early 20s, right? Mm-hmm. Because you always talk about, like, how there wasn't really, like, a time you were single, but you kind of were. Because I always remember, and I get why now. I always think of like, oh yeah, it's hard to raise kids on your own. You want someone to be there with you and to help you. But I always remember you just having,

and I don't think this is a bad thing. I always think like, oh, my mom was so popular. She had boyfriends all the time. I could never have a boy. My sister and I talk about it all the time. My mom was getting proposed to left, right, and center. I'm like. I could never have a boy. My sister and I talk about it all the time. We're like, my mom was getting proposed to left, right, and center. I'm like, we could never get a proposal. So I was like, it was actually impressive. But I always think of you as having a lot of boyfriends. But before us, you were like kind of single from what, like 20 to 25, was it? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. As far as like not in a serious relationship. But also, it was a different time, different era. You know, little towns, you know everybody. So, you know, you towns, you know, everybody. So, you know, you just kind of go out and we're on a bowling team. So, you know, everybody at the bowling alley and it was just a different time, you know, you just. So at least you had a single era. I always think, oh, cause you love, you said you love, you say you like being a single now. You're like,

I genuinely love, which I think is a good opposite perspective. Cause I always talk about, oh my God, I love being married. Thank God. Like I found a husband, but my mom's very opposite, which I think is a good opposite perspective because I always talk about, oh my God, I love being married. Thank God. I found a husband. But my mom's very opposite, which I think is common for a lot of people where they just want to be alone. And so talk about that, why you love being single and why you don't look to date. Because I'm always like, you should. You should date. My mom's young still. Well, it's different dating when you're younger than older. And I don't know if I've said this before, but when you're younger, you do want somebody to be with, to do things with. And now that I't happen when you were younger you're just you know kind of more of a love level playing field but now it's it's hard because you know you don't know anything about them where if you stay in your hometown and you date let's say at my age

I know most of them you know so I would be like okay yeah but you have no connection with anybody I have no connection with anybody out here that I would date. So I think the biggest turnoff, too, is when they talk about exes or, you know, being on a dating site and this happened. It's like, I don't need to hear that, you know. You only have so much time in life left. Hello. Do you think it's maybe more about the people you're meeting then? What if you found a guy that was so interested in you and, like, oh, what do you want to do? What is your interest?

And didn't talk about that stuff. So maybe it's like the guys you've dated that are just always talking about their pasts. I don't know. I want a Moses too, like everybody else. That's what I'm saying. They're not out there until now, you know? Yeah, I think it is interesting though because we learned from The Golden Bachelor that the older – yeah, the older you are, you're kind of more set in your way.

You want to be around your family. You don't want to like split the time, you know what I mean? Which is kind of like hard, I think. And that show led people on, which most reality shows do, you know, like, oh, yeah, he wants to find love and blah, blah, blah. But he didn't, you know, it's coming out now, you know, he wasn't ever going to move away from his family because, you know, he goes, oh, we were looking for houses, you know, in North Carolina.

And somebody, there was one comment said, you know, you couldn't find a house out of all the weeks you guys were looking. So, you know. They just didn't want to make it work. It's just like that total show was such a lie as far as he was concerned. Yeah. And that's like, I don't know. I know they're going to have a golden bachelorette. So I hope they do it differently.

At least, you know, don't lie so much. I think the thing that really bugged me, and I know I've told you this, when they go, he was a restaurateur. I'm like... Wait, why did that bug you? The dude owned a hamburger joint in 1985 and he sold it. That's not a restaurateur.

I think this is why you didn't get picked. Just like people say, I'm a model. Well, they could have been. That one girl was a dancer on Soul Train or something like that. I know, but I mean, when they really aren't a model, you know. Or I'm an actress and they've never done anything. Just, I mean, you know, just be honest with people. I think that's why they're so disillusioned now. They don't even want another Golden Bachelor.

I think for TV you probably have to, like, I think I lied on Ellen. What did I say? I was, like, a computer programmer or that was America's Got Talent I'm like a computer programmer but I work at my house so no one ever sees me a USB drive requires power from a computer to work true or false

no idea you don't know what is it no idea what that is you think you just gotta like that's what I'm saying I feel like okay you model You don't know? What is it? A USB? No idea what that is. You think you just got to like. I think you know how to do a computer. That's what I'm saying.

I feel like, okay, you model. You were on Instagram. You know what I mean? Technically, you're a model. We had a photo shoot today. You could also say you're a model. So I feel like. True. You know, do something once and just say it.

I guess. Just have it, whatever. But I think they come out now saying he just wanted the fame and the money. That's crazy. Because they were saying she didn't want to get married, but they had this all going, and they were already getting paid, and I'm sure he needed the money. You guys have to know, too, my mom keeps talking about every current event. I always say she'd have a podcast.

Every morning I get texts. What is it, on your Facebook newsreel? Oh, right. Every morning. And then even Dan Glam, she's like, oh, Brittany's got a new boyfriend. I was like, what? Who are you talking about? What are you talking about?

And I was like, yeah, they haven't shown his picture yet. I was just like, you literally know everything about every pop culture. I think it's so interesting. I'd be scared for you to have a podcast because I just feel like you do say whatever comes to your mind, which is like a beautiful thing, but also like in the world of YouTube. Well, that's how my YouTubes were. I never edited because I – like forget it. It was just so hard to learn. So I didn't edit. So there's a lot of probably bloopers on

there. So. But you just say whatever, whatever comes to your mind. I just thought editing just takes so long. I'm just going to make a video. There it's up. People do miss your TikToks and your lives. I have a busy life right now. You just go through phases. You're just like, sometimes I like to do it, sometimes I don't. Yeah. You know, by time I spend time with my family and the gym and I go to bed early. You're just like, I like my sleep now. That's so interesting. Are you on it?

Are you on social media? Like, do you look at it? Oh, yeah, I do. I don't, you know, follow a lot of people, but I do. TikTok has changed to me and I don't enjoy it as much. You've got so many people on live and so many people selling stuff now. Everything is like every other thing I do. So it's like I don't have time for that.

I just want ads free and no lives because there's just so much silly and stupid. You love animal stuff. You love all the animal ones. I do. I don't, you know, I like the positive animal ones. Are you staying away now from true crime? You know, I have. Thank God.

You told me, you know, you're watching that too much. And, you know, now that I've been away from it, I do see how it can affect your life. It was affecting me. You'd come over and be like, did you hear about this person? They got murdered and this and that. I'm like, mom, don't tell me about this stuff. Like, why do I want to know it? You know why? Because I never knew that stuff existed. You know, I lived in a sheltered life until I was probably 25 when I met your dad, you know? Oh my gosh. Because I didn't even know there were really other states what you

would do to go visit and stuff. That's how – I mean, that thought, it's like, I know it exists. I don't want to hear the graphic detail, and then it's in my head. And it's like, okay, I have to hear all this stuff. Did you know it existed as a child? Yeah, of course. How did you know? You always hear – like, even O.J. Simpson, who was like – I was like 10 or something when it happened.

And we just hear that stuff. Oh, well, yeah. Or reading books in school. But I was older. In Cold Blood was a big book that was – But I mean, back in Illinois. Or reading books in school. But I was older. In Cold Blood was a big book that was – But I mean back in Illinois. Did you hear anything that happened? Yeah, that In Cold Blood was in Kansas or something like that, like the one that was

the farm town that like all the family was unalived. I didn't know that until I read the book either. Well, didn't you read the book in school? No. When did you read the book? When you were an adult? Yeah. Or Texas Chainsaw Massacre or any of those things.

You just see it and you're just like, okay, this is a so you just know it happens but i don't want to know the details i don't want to see it i don't want to visualize it happening it's the only thing that happened back in the day my mom would talk about it was and it came up on my newsreel even it happened in pacatonica illinois there was a these two men had just vanished and my mom was just like where did they go that That was big back then. I want to say 1976 maybe that happened. And one was a realtor, and they went to a farm auction. I guess they always carried cash with them, but they disappeared.

And it came up, what, 40 years later now that they found the car in the Pecatonica River, and they're going to see if there's any bodies in there. And I haven't heard any updates yet. No updates? 40 years later that came up. Isn't that weird? How did they not give an update? They should know.

It should be easy to find if there was people in there or not. They just had to get the car out of the river, yeah. But it's like – And that was the town I grew up in. Well, for a couple of years, I guess, we went there. Pecatonica. Right, yes. Shout out Pecatonica.

Bless you. What was that? Oh, that's crazy. That was the only really big story that ever happened. Yeah, people are scared of, like, coming to L.A. and, like, big cities and stuff because, you know, you always hear, oh, people disappear there. There's, you know, whatever. But it's, like, the small towns, I feel like they get away with more because it's, like,

so, like, mysterious. It doesn't get brought up in the world news. You know what I mean? So I feel like the small towns you always have to be a little warm. Well the small towns are on the ID channels and that. Now we're going back to oh did you hear this? I'm like okay. I love that you're not. Maybe that's the difference in you.

Maybe you're not watching that as much because you're so like bright and happy and I'm just like okay you have more energy. You're just like I'm like maybe that was making you paranoid. But do you want to know what I am watching? They're very interested. Yes, this is your interview. My new thing, it's called Lone Star Law.

Love that show. There's the Northwoods. It's all on the same channel. It's like Game Wardens, but there actually can kind of be like cops too. Is it scripted or reality? No, it's reality. But what's it about? Like they catch people that don't have hunting licenses or they're wanted on a felony then because they always run their name through. And these people always lie like, no,

I didn't kill that deer. No, I didn't drag it there. I was up, you know, stuff like that. It sounds stupid, but it's really good. Why do you like it? How people are. Is there a hot person on there? Oh, no, no. I feel like you always like, you love Dirty Jobs because it was a hot host. Oh, yeah. What was the other one? There was another true crime guy you loved. Oh, I know.

What was his name? Joe or something? Oh, yeah. He was a detective. Yeah. Joe Kendra. They retired his show, but now he comes on and talks about another one. But not a fan as much anymore.

So now you're into Lone Star? What's it called? Lone Star? Lone Star Law. And there's no host or anything of it? You just love the show? The wardens have their cameras and their things. And on the people, sometimes they'll blur them out.

But then ATVs that go in personal property or people that have, you know, done things on other people's property they shouldn't have. But I just find it amazing. I'm just, I guess human nature, I'm thinking, you know, because the guys are so nice, these wardens, game wardens. And the people are just like mean. And it's like. What town are they in? Are they in Texas? Yeah, Texas.

All over Texas. Okay. But I just – human nature, I'm thinking, why are you guys lying? They're going to find out. And they always do. It's like – it just amazes me how people are. That they can't ever tell the truth, you know? Well, they're probably like scared to get in trouble or something like that.

Well, of course. Nobody wants to go to jail, but I'm thinking – and they know. They know they did wrong, you like that. Of course, nobody wants to go to jail. And they know. They know they did wrong. I'm like, wow. That's so funny. And so is it like – are they showing live footage of all this stuff? Is it like body cam footage? Yeah.

It's all live, which I like. Our TV – what we watch on TV is so different. Every time we watch a show, I'm like there's – I always try to get her into shows I like, but I feel like – What was the last one you wanted me to watch? Lost, Desperate Housewives. What was that? Was that Bridgerton? Bridgerton? Well, we haven't even watched

that yet. It comes out May 16th. Oh. Was that the one I wanted? No, there must have been another one I wanted to get you to watch. There was another one, too. Oh, my God. I love Only Murders in the Building, White Lotus, like... Where is that White Lotus, anyway, that next season? Well, I think they just finished filming it

oh okay I'm not in it though unfortunately but well when you guys start your own production company now you can you can

have it be purple whatever these are with serial 8 this is from Desperate Housewives well I didn't want to I tried to get you

to watch Traitors you didn't watch that I was like I tried to get her to watch my but every time you give us a recommendation I'm just like absolutely not that show sounds horrible too so I feel like we're just you get her to watch my... But every time you give us a recommendation, I'm just like, absolutely not. That show sounds horrible, too.

You never did see that Key West one. That was really good. What is that? I don't even remember, but that was a really good show. You don't remember what it was? No. It was down at Key West. Yeah, right. Now I want to live there. I think it's so cool down there. Was it like, okay, but is it like you're shopping

for houses down there? It's a reality show? Oh, no. It's just a TV show they put together, but it's so cool down there. Wait, but was it like, okay, but is it like you're shopping for houses down there? It's a reality show. Like, what was it? Oh, no. It's just a TV show they put together, but it's really good. Sissy Spacek's in it. Oh, it was scripted. Yeah. Yeah.

I would always come over and it's like, we watch the ones where they show them like three different houses and then they have to pick houses. I don't know what that one was. Oh, that's on HGTV, isn't it? Where they want to live by the beach. Oh, yeah. That one we always watch. Beachfront properties, yeah.

I think Living Alone or what was that one? Naked and Afraid or I don't know. What was the one? Okay, I've never watched Naked and Afraid. No, but you know. What's that one they watched? The like stranded, they were like stranded alone. Oh, there was something, yeah.

There was like in the middle of like the snow. These people would just be surviving. Okay, Alone. Alone. That was good. Farmer wants a wife. That one you watch. That never works out. We're just getting to the last episode of this one, but

they never stick together. Oh, Phil. Yeah, Somebody Feed Phil. You loved him. Yes. We didn't get to meet him, but we did get to see him so crazy when we went to Vegas. Donny Osmond, we obviously went for Donny Osmond. And like, literally he's like, the next day was going to be on somebody feed Phil live from Harrah's. And I

was like, this is so weird. That was like my mom's favorite person. And they sat by you in the next booth. I was so envious. I did take a secret picture. I never do this. And I think it's so annoying when people do it to me or any celebrity, but Moses and him were sitting right next to each other. And I was just like, my mom was watching Malibu in the room. And I was just like, I did one of those like selfies. I was trying to take a Moses, but I wanted to get Phil in the background. But you knew I loved him. So I love you, Phil.

I know you're watching. He was pretty good. He was pretty good. You had to see him live. It is crazy because you just like love him so much. So it's just like his podcast with Donnie. Well, we love, everybody loves him. In fact, we're watching it now, me and Callie, and it's like, I've never seen it.

That's so funny. You guys need to watch that. It is so funny. I used to. Especially as you know, you're married and it's a lot of marriage stuff. Is it like drama though? No. No, it's funny stuff.

They argue. Oh, not like that. Because like King of Queens, everyone's like, you need to watch it. It's so funny. But they just argue the whole time and she calls him fat. It's not like that. No king of queens everyone's like you need to watch it it's so funny but they just argue the whole time and she calls him fat it's not like that no it's more humor funny humor anytime there's like couples fighting in a show i'm just like i don't want to see this it's fun because they don't fight mean and they don't usually fight it's about like their his family lives across the street and so it's a lot of comic stuff like that. You would love it. And it's based on Phil's life or what? Yeah, I guess.

And I think maybe Raymond's, maybe. I don't know. I don't think I could get into it. You could. I don't know. You should try it. Because I tried King of Queens, too, and I was just like, I just can't. No, I don't think that would be your thing.

You loved it, though. I did. It was funny. My mom and sister loved Friends. I've never seen Friends. I don't know if I loved it. Kelly loves it, and that's why we watched it. But even now I watch it and I've never seen Friends. I don't know if I loved it. Kelly loves it and that's why we watched it. But even now I watch it

and I was like, I can't get into that show at all. I never really got the hype of it. Probably at the time it was cool. Now I don't think it's even politically correct. You guys used to watch Golden Girls when I was growing up. It's like just weird shows that I never was into. We didn't have a lot of choices though

back then. We didn't have all this Paramount Plus or Disney and all that. That's true. We just had good old fashioned TV channels. Well we rented a lot of movies. I remember we, I did. We used to go to those video rental stores and I would get like a ton of movies to watch. But I guess you, I don't know. Yeah that's true. We did Blockbuster

a lot. Yeah. Or we saw the movies a lot too. But yeah TV shows. I guess I don't remember like watching shows as a family. I don't know. So we really didn't. Like you just worked at night a lot. Like you just worked a lot. So whether it was like bartending or. I feel you guys played a lot too.

With beads and. The beads. The drama. There's a bead situation. Oh my god. The bead story never ending. We did. And especially in Concord Drive we played a lot downstairs in the basement. Nick would play with us. Like we played Nancy Drew or we had the backyard where it was like we had trees and like they would have like little like arrowheads like from, I don't know where those arrowheads

would come from. Oh yeah, I do remember that. Was there like, there must have been like Native Americans because the towns were Native American theme. Not theme, sorry, but the names like Winnebago named after a tribe. Pecatonica was named after a tribe. Oregon. Black Hawk.

The statue of Black Hawk's in Oregon, isn't it? They had that. So I think it was like a Native American indigenous area. Because our backyard would have like arrowheads. And then I had a teacher who was part Native American. And I'd like bring it to him. And I'd be like, oh my God, look at what we found. It was kind of like exciting to see all the stuff back there and he'd be like where would you find

this and it was just like and actually I think he wanted to keep it it was like really crazy um stuff that I just don't even think about like I'm like I guess we did play a lot our imagination the trees out front we had that little stage and we performed on and you know so I guess we did play we're good I watch a of TV, but I feel like we balanced it out with playing outside. Yeah, I don't remember watching much TV. Definitely not together. The only thing I can remember watching was when Princess Diana passed away. Really?

I don't remember that. I remember that coming on. I'm like, oh. And then it's like, you know, because I haven't known many people that have passed, so she was one of the first. I'm like, oh, that's really weird. Oh, did it shake you it did you know not that i followed her at all but you know i thought wow that's pretty big that's interesting

that you would yeah because you weren't too no the celebrities or royals or anything i couldn't tell you who i knew back then we did buy a lot of magazines though we used to buy a lot of tabloids used to always buy Star, Us Weekly. I don't know why. You were always buying up. It wasn't for the fashion, obviously. I guess it's for the, I guess because we didn't have social media. It's kind of like your way to keep up to date, maybe. That could be, yeah.

Interesting about the Princess Diana. I don't remember that at all. I don't remember her passing away or anything. But you just saw it on the news and you were just like... Yeah, I think I just happened to walk by and I'm like, wait, what? Well, now we're a part of the royal family. My uterus apparently is just like Ghostbusters, just having all the royal family come through, which is like so weird.

Hopefully King Charles is staying okay. I guess he's back to work now. He's – Oh, is he? Back on duty or whatever that means. I don't know. My mom keeps up with the royal family. You keep up with –

Now I do. Because I cannot believe Prince Harry left. That just is mind-boggling to me. It's like, wow. My mom's always giving me updates on – there's two people he gave me updates on that I know nothing about, and that's Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. And I'm like, I have no idea who –

I don't know what this is about. And Kanye West and his girlfriend. And I'm like, Mom, I don't know who this person is. She's like, oh, did you see them at this thing? It's like so random that you keep up with them. Well, they're always in the news. I never see them. Her outfits are, you know.

I'm surprised she has not gotten arrested, though. I mean, she's out there almost naked. Anybody else would get arrested. That would be an interesting thing to try, right? Like I go to Disneyland in the same outfit. Exactly. Yeah. My mom keeps up. You keep up with all the pop culture, which is kind of crazy because it is like something you didn't do when we were growing up,

but now you're just on it. Well, even today you got educated having your makeup with your makeup artist. A lot of things. What was it? You didn't know anything about Jeff Bezos' new fiance. My mom's like, oh my God. It's like, they're always out there in the news. Do you know anything? My mom literally was just like, oh, Jeff Bezos' new fiancé. I'm like, what? I didn't know he had a new fiancé. I thought he was married. I didn't know anything about him. And you knew her name. You're like, Lauren Sanchez. Well, I remember watching Channel 11 News.

Girls that always were on there were dressed like they were going to a nightclub. And this was like 8 o'clock in the morning. Maybe that's how L.A. always did it, but that's how you remembered them, you know? When did you watch her? When was that on? I watched her, I think, well, early, I think 2011. When you're living out here.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yes, yes. And you remember her from all that time? Yeah. And now you're like, oh, that woman, I remember her. Yeah, I do. And what do you know about Jeff Bezos?

But I don't remember what. Yeah, I do. And what do you know about Jeff Bezos? But I don't remember what I did yesterday. So no. Your memory is funny because you do have a good memory sometimes. And then sometimes you're like, oh, I don't know. That's a short-term memory, a long-term memory. I guess it does. Yeah, I guess that's a... So what do you know about Jeff Bezos? That he's very rich. But you keep up with him. So what's new? What's in the news? Well, when he divorced, I remember, you know, his wife got a lot of the money too. And she donated billions to charities. And people, I mean, I guess they were upset. They thought, oh, he's going to be so upset.

She's giving away all his money. But it's like, well, you know, she can do what she wants with it. How long were they married for? I don't know. Quite a while, I think. So that's, what do you think about that? So that's interesting. I always think this is

like an interesting topic, right? It's like, oh, she's giving away all his money. But it's like, don't you think she earned some of that money being married?

That's why you have to watch Everybody Loves Raymond. That was one segment. Oh, what was it? She's like, she's not spending my money and she's like, because she's a stay-at-home mom.

Oh. So she started making bills for washing the dishes, travel to the kids. Oh, they were very ahead of their time then. Yeah, yeah. Because that is so true, right? You always hear that.

And it is crazy. In divorces where you could be married, I see it on TikTok all the time, they're married 20 years, the husband wants a divorce, they don't have any work experience, no education, they took care of the kids this whole time, so now they're left with no money. And I'm like, that is crazy that you can just end a marriage and not have to pay this person while you made all the money and they took care

of the kids in the house and then you just leave behind a dry and they have nowhere to go or no experience. Right. Well, California law is different. If you've been married, what, 10 years, you get alimony. I think it should be no matter what. Well, I guess 10 years, yeah, you put in a lot of work. But it's like if you're taking care of the house and taking care of the kids, I mean, that is such a huge expense. Like housekeepers and all this is like so – I learned that when we had a baby. I was like, wow, it's really crazy. And we have help.

We have you. We have a housekeeper. We have all this stuff like that. But it's just like they still do – it's just so much work. If your spouse left and he didn't have a really good job and can't pay her anything, then she has to start from scratch, you know? Yeah. That's the bad part.

It's just – Or supporting – Life is tough for a lot of people. I know. And just like – I think for everybody at one time in their lives, it has to, you know? Yeah. Be tough.

When you have a – but it's like, yeah, if someone's like quitting their job to support the family or supporting you or supporting your – it's like, should be able to like it is crazy so that is wild when people get divorced and they're like and we see what the girls do we see with women right like kelly clarkson has it but it's like i don't know the situation i'm not like judging it but i'm just saying like if he helped her with her career like is he entitled to i don't know i don't know that situation but you think you should be entitled to some money if you've helped someone get to where they're at i think he helped himself to some of the money anyway. Because he was a manager or something of her.

Yeah, but it's like... I think he got compensated too. I don't know. That one's really messed up. There was another one too recently with a woman that made more and she had to pay. I forgot who it was, but... Britney Spears. Well, that's a whole different

thing when it comes like the dad and the mom i mean she's just really you know when your parents are involved it's a whole thing you know that's one i that's one person i can't figure out britney spears yeah what do you mean like we love her i know we do but you know you watch her tiktok so you hear things about her it's, is she actually really all together there? Or is it a facade? I want to say it's a facade and that she's great. I'm sure she definitely has issues. I think she's just trying to express herself.

She's able to now. Yeah, I think she's got to make up for them, what, 13 years. I think she's just being her goofy self. That's what I like to think. But also, everyone has, oh, my God, there's the fly. That's a big horsefly. The horseflies are everywhere. We've had so many lately.

We've had, like, three big horseflies. You need a cat. Don't they eat flies? We do not need a cat. Where's Moses' cat? Madeline's getting a big, big fly. She loves it. I think she's living her best life. I think everyone has. I mean, you probably all have trauma at that point.

It's too bad she has to put it out there, though, because everybody's so judgmental. She's kind of low-key now, I feel. I don't think she puts out too much right now. I looked yesterday on her Instagram and it was nothing there. Nothing? Was it completely gone? She blocked you. Because I think she's on there.

I don't follow her, but I mean, every once in a while she'll have a clean page. Maybe it's up now. I think it's up now. Can you check that, Moses? Poor Moses over there

at the check back all the time. I think people think Moses is back there like checking facts all the time. We had another guest do that too. They're like, bring it up, Moses. He's just like,

he's just trying to play his whatever, what is it, guest do that too. They're like, bring it up, Moses. He's just trying to play as whatever. What is that? Pokemon Go or something? He's like, when are these women going to stop talking? Oh, the premiere. Okay, you're watching that. Babe, there's an ant. Sorry, sorry. Oh my God, there's like ants. Oh, it's probably from here. You just brought them in. Oh my God, that's so scary.

Oh, sorry. No, no, no, it's fine. I think it's from the plant because he just brought the plants in and stuff like that. Sorry. I got distracted. Awesome. I don't know who was telling us that, but her son's turning 18, so she won't have to give child support.

Oh, who is it? But somebody said when they move to Hawaii, they can do it for two. I don't believe that. So they're like 26 or something? 24 or something. Yeah. I don't believe that. Have you ever heard that, Moses?

Not that that's on your repertoire. No, definitely he's not going to get support once the kids are over 18. They're saying Hawaii is 24. Somebody said that. Just one person. But I think it's 18 all over the United States. I don't think she's subjected to Hawaii at all. Right, just because they moved there.

Yeah, I don't think so either. Maybe that was the one I was thinking. Because then there are people who just take advantage. Because then everybody would move into Hawaii, you know, who are breaking up with children. That's true. Well, that's probably why he never got remarried, right? Because if you get remarried, you don't get alimony. Oh, he got married.

He got married. So the alimony stops. Did they marry? I don't think they got married. Are you sure? I thought they did. I think it stops. I mean, I don't know.

I'm pretty sure, because I know someone else who gets alimony and she's not getting married because she's like, I don't know. I'm pretty sure. Because I know someone else who gets alimony and she's not getting married because she's like, I don't want those checks to stop. Yeah. Which is like, if you have a new partner in a new relationship, okay, maybe stop taking the support at that point. You kind of like found. Well, they weren't married 10 years.

Who? Her and. Right. But there probably was like some agreement or something. Right. It probably stopped at a certain point. Yeah. I don't know how that works.

Which is why maybe you want more child support. Right. support right how much was he getting sometimes the child support's ridiculous like it's like fifty thousand dollars like do you need that much he was getting 60 now i think wow when they went back to court because i think he was only getting 20 or something then i think there's like a little point of being greedy like i guess she makes a lot of money but it's like i mean really do you need that much for a child per month i don don't think so. I look at Kim Kardashian. Does she pay? I think he pays her. What? Really?

I want to say it was over $220,000 a month. That's crazy. It's like, does he make that kind of money? Wow. Do you think he makes more than Kim Kardashian? He's worth more? He was a billionaire before she was. Yeah.

Wow. Wow. Okay. There's two rich people. It's like, really, at that point, do you even need to have – I know. That's what I thought. Wow.

What does she do with all her money? It is crazy. I know. It's like Jeff Bezos, Michael Jordan, like those people whose wives supported them. I get that. But it's like people who are just like equally rich. Right. I know.

What's why? You're really going to go to court. Obviously, he was a lot more richer than her. And like how much – yeah, how much money do you possibly need? That's what I would like to know because it's like at that level of the kardashians it's like do you really need more like you can't need more money there's just no way you have infinite wealth generational wealth like it's just gonna like all that stuff i know which is like wild to me i don't know money is so interesting in this world it's just like it's Some people are just so greedy all the time.

Well, there was a new one. Who is it? They're suing – You're going to catch that fly? Sorry. Oh, okay. Okay, we're back until it shows again. Sorry, we were having flat issues. We were just talking about our shoes.

I don't even – I love these. Beautiful. But I don't know how you keep them on your feet. I'm surprised I haven't lost one. I guess that's why I like this one because this is like keeping it nice and secure. I don't even, I love these. Beautiful. But I don't know how you keep them on your feet. I'm surprised I haven't lost one. I guess that's why I like this one because this is like keeping it nice and secure. I get so many compliments on these. I don't know if you can see them, but you get so many compliments on these.

Who are those? It's called Katie. K-H-A-I-T-E. Kate? Katie? I don't know how you say it, but I think we have the same designers on there. Let me just check. Oh, no.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's the same. K-H-A-I-T-E. A-I-T-E. They're bougie. I like them. They are very bougie. What is one thing we should do as mother and daughter while we're still young?

What's a dream you have? Oh, thank you. I'm 65 years young. You are. Just you and me? Anything. Just in life. What would you like to do together?

What would you like to do, period? What dreams can we make happen for you, Mama? It can be together or not together. Do you have one? This is your interview. I'm asking you. I'm back interviewing. Maybe if you go first, I can jog something. I have so many dreams. I always talk about all our dreams.

I want to go. But that's what I'm saying. Our dreams are so different. I want to take you to Italy. Mama doesn't care about going to Europe at all. I want to go to Italy. I want to go see all the Disneys. I want to take you to Italy. My mom doesn't care about going to Europe at all. I'm like, I want to go to Italy. I want to go see all the Disneys. I want to be able to give my mom a lazy river. I want in her house, lake house. I want to – I think my mom will get married. This is my prediction. I feel like she actually will get married again. She's so like, I like being alone. I like to eat my own things.

But I feel like you are going to one day. Why would I get married? What would be the purpose of that? I don't know. Why did you get married before? Well, I was younger. But I mean, older. You love getting married.

Why can't we just live? Even I wouldn't live together with somebody. I want my own place, too. I want my own things. Well, you've been married a couple times. And so you must like to be married. When I was younger, it was fine. But now I don't want to say – if I want to take a nap, I don't want somebody to say, don't.

Why are you sleeping? Were you with someone that traumatized you that didn't want you to sleep or something? Did someone tell you, like, stop taking – Yeah. And that was when I was working at the post office. Well, I can't say. Okay, okay. Well, I know now.

Okay, yeah, got it. Okay. And he would be like, why are you taking a nap? Yes. I always have to be working if I was home. So the trauma is real. Okay. I get it.

You had a little bit of a traumatic. As a retired couple, it might be different. Yeah. As a retired couple, it might be different. They probably love taking naps. Everyone I know, my dad was taking a nap. You mean now that they've been together forever or something? My dad takes naps for like four hours a day.

He's always taking naps. Oh. Yeah. But sometimes, in fact fact it was on everybody loves Raymond she's like have your father come over I need some time to myself he he's just always on me after he retired it's like oh my gosh yeah I feel like that person now would love to take a nap the one that you said like I feel like now he's like a napper oh probably age is yeah age does it to you.

But, you know, I just, I would like somebody to be a friend with, but I don't want to move in with them, you know. Yeah. Because I have my own, on my own life, the guy who I'm talking to now, it's like he's happy in his life too. Gee, that's like breaking news right there. You are talking to someone right now. Well, not dating, but, you know, but if you have that same goal, you know, like I love my family and I have this to do and he has got that to do. And even if we would see each other once a week, that's enough, you know. Yeah. I don't need somebody full time because I like me.

You like to be. I like to be with me. So what's a dream for just you? Like don't even think about us in the picture, just you. Like what's a dream? We're like, we talk about, we play the lottery a lot. So it's like, where do you see, you win the lottery, then what? You know, I guess I, not that I ever want to go on a cruise because I've heard so many

bad things about a cruise, but that cruise that was going for what, 110, or how many? Three years. I would have done something like that. If I was by myself, I would have done that. Really? Do you want to go on a cruise? And they If I was by myself, I would have done that. Really? Do you want to go on a cruise? And they canceled it without telling people, I guess. And people were sold their homes and everything.

And I'm like, I don't know where to go. So, yeah. Well, we can send you on a cruise. I didn't know that's your dream. You want to go? Where do you want to go? That was one I thought. Because a lot of people are selling their homes and living on cruise ships.

Oh. Forever. Because they said it's cheaper. You can relax more and play. and you don't have any you know payments so that's kind of cool would you just go by yourself then i think it's scary to go by yourself though because it's like then that's when the weird stuff happens like people go missing i feel that kind of cruise would be all older people right tired because who's got three years out of their life unless you can work off a boat, I guess. But I don't want to go on a regular cruise.

Well, this is probably how the other one is. But they were saying how everybody's got to eat at the same time and you're all always around people. What kind of cruise is that where you eat at the same time? Well, you know how everything's a buffet and there's people all in the pool. You see pool. They go, this is how they put it on the pamphlet. But then she has, this is how it is. Everybody's shoulder to shoulder.

Really? So I suppose that three-year cruise would be like that too. The cruise I went on, I just remember you could eat anytime you wanted. They always had food all the time. Did you notice it was really crowded though? I guess we didn't go to the pool. Not really. Like when you walked around

where they're always people well yeah but like you could do dancing i don't want to go on that i don't i you know i just would like to just go somewhere is there a dream destination dream house dream thing i don't know if there's a destination because I don't know what a lot of places look like. Tropical, you know, just laying in a hammock. I like the water house, but I want to go to where you went, the Maldives. Maldives is too far. I think Fort Borea, it's a little closer. Yeah, I would like to try something like that. You like Hawaii? I do like Hawaii. You don't like the Bahamas? No. So you're very... I like the water though. You want an RV and a tiny home, I know that. RV, yes. Motorhome. I could live in one. so you're very i like the water though you want an rv in a tiny home i know that rv yes motorhome

i could live in one i would get you a motorhome okay it's so funny because my mom was like if i won the lottery she's like i just want a motorhome i was like don't you want like a house or right well i lived in my motor home with a man before for a couple months and so it now i know like you go well what do you do how do you change your bathroom? I was like, I could do that now. But I thought you didn't like that experience. Well, by myself, I would like it, you know, with our dogs. I liked the idea, but with him, once again, you're with somebody and you got to do what they want to do.

So it's like. He seemed to be pretty easygoing. I don't remember much, but I kind of remember him being easygoing. This was when I was an adult. He seemed to be kind of on your schedule. But I wasn't ready for that lifestyle because, you know, you were in Sherman Oaks and Cal, and I wanted to be part of your lives because that was the first I was really involved in it. So I wasn't ready for that kind of, you know.

That's true. Because I had a family I loved, and I wanted to get to know more, you know. Yeah, we had that apartment together. So my mom was like, oh. It has to be the right time. RV life, baby's calling for you. And it wasn't his thing because his family was somewhere in another state. I would love to have a private chef too.

So after this right now, could you imagine, be like, can we have some nachos grande ready? I'm really into nachos grande lately and I can't find a good one. I even put out a thing looking for a chef in the area. I could do it. Let me try it next time. Mom. Have you ever had mine? You melt them in the air fryer or something.

The way I did it before when I was 26, I put it in a big cookie sheet. Okay. And you layer it, the chips and the cheese and chips and the cheese. And then if you like the shredded chicken, what I would get, I could do my own chicken, but I get the rotisserie chicken and put on the seasonings that you like and bake that and then put it on the nachos and then stick it in the oven and bake it. I guess, yeah, that sounds pretty simple. But I like the ooey gooey cheese.

I'm like, how do they do that? There's certain cheeses are gooey or ooey. Yes. Oh, God, they told me this morning. there's like huaca or something it's called. Huaca. And it's like at the Spanish markets. It's like the Vallarta's. I think it's called huaca.

And they're like that's the cheese they use for like the – so I'm like, okay, we need to go there. There's one in Simi Valley. There's a Vallarta there. So maybe I'll go get the cheese because I was like, oh, this would be so great too. It's all about the cheese. I love it. Is that your favorite?

What? Nachos? Cheese. Cheese out of the cheese. I love it. Is that your favorite? What, nachos? Cheese. Cheese out of it. Yeah. I know. Is that on your notes? Where's your notes?

Oh, the notes are all here. You're just winging it? Wow. Yeah. Mama. I'm winging it, too. What's your Mother's Day dream this year? We have Mother's Day coming up in a few days.

My Mother's Day dream is that Elvis and you will make it through your pregnancy keep you strong and healthy so she can join us for the next one I know maybe she'll still be here before Mother's Day we don't know I know your peoples are probably thinking oh I hope she has it right now

oh we gotta go it is crazy I think when we were taking photos before, too, I was getting dizzy. And my photographer was like, are you OK? Should we? I was like, yeah, I'm fine. Well, her suitcase is right over there, ready to go. Yes, we do have the bags ready.

So do you have your bag ready? Halfway. You got to bring it over. I'm going to put sweats and jammies in. But your contacts and all that stuff like that. Yeah, I'm going to get it around on Wednesday since I have the day off. OK. I need to get myself around on Wednesday, too. I was off. Okay. I need to get myself around on Wednesday too.

I was just like, okay. All right, that's the plan then. Yeah. We're just going to be low key here. Yeah. I wonder what I'm going to feed her. Well, we have food. Okay.

We have the quesadillas. You know, you know we have quesadillas, eggs. I want to have a rotisserie chicken for her. She loves that. We can get that. We can definitely get that. We can get all of it. We'll have it stocked up.

I can get it on the way over when you call me. up. I get on my way over when you call me. Huh? Get that on the way over when you call me. Be like, actually, I need a – what was it the other day? Oh, I need to stop at the post office before. I was like, okay, let's come over. Did you get that out, the Poshmark? I did.

Yes. Yes. Thank you all so much. I love Mother's Day. I just think it's a great time to appreciate your mom. It is. All the stuff that they do. And sadly, that's how only some people do it's a great time to appreciate your mom it is all the stuff that they do and and

sadly that's how only some people do it once a year you know they and maybe they don't get to see them all the time you know either so yeah we are very fortunate i'm very true when you're like a different state than your mom it's like hard and it's just like right it is where when you grow older too just like realize how much more you need your mom i think even with like my brothers like they just like realize like oh i kind of kind of need a mom you go through that phase like in your 20s where like i'm just independent whatever and then it comes back around and you're just like you know it's just like so nice to have like you know one day they go you know one day she's gonna really need me and yeah because i know how i was in my 20s i didn't really talk to my parents much

you know try to get together once in a while really talk to my parents much, you know, try to get together once in a while. But you're busy on your own, you know. Oh, it's so exciting. I feel like 20s is just like, okay, this whole new world. And it's like. You're free. You're an adult.

Oh, yeah. It's just like it was the best thing ever. But then we were just together a lot in my 20s, too, because we ended up having an apartment together. Then you lived close to me by the beach. When I lived at the beach, we lived close together. You were really busy. I didn't see you a whole lot in my early 20s

when you were at the beach playa oh yeah I was in love I feel like whenever I'm in love you were in love a couple times I think there yes I was I would just wait around all day I wouldn't want to see anyone or hang out with anyone because I'm like what if he wants to come over

even though I always tell him once a week or once every two weeks he might want to come over today and so I didn't want to see anyone or hang out with anyone because I'm like, what if he wants to come over? Even though I always tell him like once a week or once every two weeks, he might want to come over today. And so I didn't want to like make plans with anybody just in case. Well, that's everybody I think when you got a guy. I don't think it is. I think it's just us. I don't know. I think people like have healthy relationships. Yeah, I suppose. Keep their family and friendships. Back then it was

like you put your guy first, you know, where we grew up. We were definitely those people for sure. Yeah. And it's like – I think it's not a bad thing. But yeah, if you're like – No, but a lot of them were stay-at-home women, you know. What? Farmer women. They were all about the stay-at-home.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we – yeah, it was a weird thing. I prioritized dating and I was like, that was so stupid. I did the same thing. But it's like – that's like – that's my regret. I'm like, God, I wish I would have not done that. You know what I mean? I would cancel auditions. I wouldn't

show up to stuff. And I was like, God, I wish I didn't put a guy first. You know what I mean? I think that stuff works itself out. I need to have a new cameo. I always ask for advice for 20 years. I'm like, just live your life. Love. Everything works out later. Don't stress about it. You know what I mean? I was so stressed about it. I was like, I need to find love now in my 20s.

But that's life. You work through it. Yeah, that's true. And you couldn't tell Malibu at that age. You couldn't tell her, don't do this. They got to learn it themselves. I hope she would listen to some of my advice. I was trying to think of advice you've given me.

And I was like, what did my mom? I don't feel like you ever gave me advice. There was no advice. You never talked about boys or sex or anything. I was like, what did my my mom give me i'm just trying to think of motherly advice he gave me i was like i don't know if she ever did not a bad way maybe you were just trying to let me live my life but i just you kind of jetted out of there before i probably could anyway like even in high school i was just like god i don't remember like you ever giving me like advice well Well, you know, live and learn. I can give you advice now. I have a lot of wisdom, but. That's so funny. Cause I was thinking about that. I was like, God, cause I

feel like I'd want to give Malibu advice. I feel like I want to give her advice, you know, cause I've been through like a lot. So I feel like I'd want to give her advice, but I guess maybe just. I'll give her my advice. Okay. I can't wait until she starts talking because I feel like she has so much of your mannerism. Sometimes when you spend like the hours with you for her for the podcast, when we come up, I'm like, that's a Mimi thing. She used to go, whoa, whoa. And I was like, oh, no. So when she starts talking, I'm so curious to know just her thoughts on you, how the

day went. Because I just – you know, they're so honest, you know. I remember Grandma, when she would watch me, would tell you like I cheated on the cards and like she – oh, someone was – you know, I was like, oh, my God, Grandma telling on me and stuff like that. Right. Oh, she cheated. She lied.

She's tired. I was like, oh, my God, Grandma really calling me out. So – I know. I don't want to be that kind of grandma either. I know. Like I kept a secret from one of my other grandchildren though. Did you?

Oh. She was – oh, I can't. I'm going to say why. Let's not say the secrets out there. Yeah, it's interesting. I think having a relationship with your like aunts, grandparents, I think it's just like so important. It's something we just didn't have.

Right. Like I tell – like, you know, when I was talking to my husband, I'm like, you didn't – we didn't really have like a lot of friends we didn't have a lot of like family that was close so we're just not close we're close as like our family but like extended family it's like i've never right see that much or talk to which is like weird because we all live close together but it seemed and it seemed like um a lot of they were a lot older it seemed like older acting you know how now you see them you know what i'm saying like they were maybe 50 and they look like they were 80 yeah they definitely were my aunts they looked

they seemed so old like they couldn't relate to me you know yeah my dad said the same thing he said like you would never or was it you talking like you like the grandparents never talked to you was it you that said that yeah and it was like yeah they just didn't talk to the kids they were in a different world then you know that's so interesting and it's like now both you and my dad it's like and his mom too it's like so active and so like play like just non-stop playing with Malibu and communicating with her like she's a person and it's like yeah I don't remember that as like a so that's a good change yeah so and give advice well you can give advice to Malibu I will what's advice you'd give her um first of all be very respectful and obey your

mother and father oh wow that's a good one very very you know you just have to instill that right away yeah you know we were talking about this though too is like you actually like never like we weren't bad kids but it's like you never really punished us like we never got grounded we were talking about like how you never you know because it wasn't a thing like i never got grounded i feel like kids get grounded though i remember people like i'm grounded and i'm like i always thought it was weird i grounded you want not grounded you but and i feel bad to this day in dakota remember we were going to see The Wizard of Oz at the high school, and you were just acting up. You weren't listening to me at all.

So I had to call that babysitter. Oh. And I went without you with the others. And I felt so bad because you love musicals. You love plays. And I thought, what did I do? But it's like, I'm going to teach you a lesson. But that hurt me more, I think, than it hurt you.

Yeah, I don't remember that at all. It hurt me to this day. I thought, oh. Because it was a stupid, stupid high school play. You know, what is it? A town of 200 people? Yeah. Shout out, Dakota.

But I'm like, oh. I broke my heart. I did that. Well, I mean, I guess you have to discipline. But we didn't get disciplined that much. But I guess we just didn't act out that much, really. No, yeah. One time you put dish soap in my mouth.

It wasn't even a bar of soap. You think, oh, put a bar of soap. But one you put um dish soap in my mouth it wasn't even a borrow soap you think like oh put a borrow soap but one time put dish soap in my mouth yeah well you were um a little feisty child sometimes you like to you like to um not talk back but you know was that i think your side was always better so you always try to talk over me and then i'm like i'm the mom and you and then one time you're like I'm gonna put soap in your mouth I was like okay random I always remember after years of saying no no I had to I'm sorry okay well maybe I regret that now but you know I thought I mean there's way worse that parents do I mean it's better than hitting you or anything you know that's true that is crazy how parents still fight to this day about like some people really believe in like spanking and hitting and stuff like that which is like well that girl i followed on tiktok she was um talking about her um sisters spanking

that she goes to spank them all the time like oh the spanking is a lot that is i don't know that's like too much i think but i think you can reason with the child and if not you just sit them in a chair we stood in the corner a couple times i remember i think you put me down take a break you just say you take a break for 10 minutes. You know? You don't have to say you're being punished because that might trigger them. I don't know. Right.

I feel like also, too, like, mental health wasn't a thing. Like, my, you know. Yeah. You never heard that at all. Like, maybe we didn't know how to regulate emotions. So, like, instead of, like, helping us, like, my dad specifically, too, just, like, yelled, like, oh, my God. He just gets so mad. You know what I mean? Right. And it's, like, rather than, I feel like with Malibu, I can, like, us, like my dad specifically to just like yell like, oh, my God, I just get so mad. You know what I mean?

And it's like rather than I feel like with Malibu, I can like be like, OK, what's wrong? What's the problem? Because if you like lash out, there's usually like a reason. Right. Like there's usually. Yeah. With a kid, there's usually like a trauma that's there. But it's like I feel like the communication was harder as.

But I think it starts as a baby. If your parents are going to yell at you as a baby, why did you yeah in your diaper or whatever you know you just kind of got to start out being calm i hated being yelled at yeah you never yelled my dad did but you like never yelled i'd like refuse to yell like for malibu i just like can't like i feel he yelled after we were divorced though yeah he Yeah. Because he had never, you know, really had you alone. Yeah. So, and. Kind of felt bad for him, honestly, looking back.

Yeah. And, you know, he was busy trying to make a company. And I feel, yeah, I feel bad then. We should have stayed together because, you know, you should stay together for the kids. Unless you're really constantly fighting. And we weren't like that. Yeah. We just wanted different things, so. Or if you're being, abused or something it's like bad but right yeah yeah i think he just

didn't know i know i always like i didn't ever i didn't really like visiting my dad when i was a kid because it was like yeah he would always like yell at me if i like poop my pants or something like that or like anything but i feel now looking back or he always fed us like fast food or something i'm like i guess he just probably just didn't know like he couldn't cook he didn't he just ate that you know what i mean and probably i still like fast food or something. I'm like, I guess he just probably just didn't know. Like he couldn't cook. He just ate that. You know what I mean? And probably why I still like fast food to this day because we had a summer of just all fast food for every meal. Kind of fun as a kid, but it's like now it's like, okay. But yeah.

I think I had one dog and said it's Coney Dog. I went to A&W. We had Coney Dog's there. What's a Coney Dog? A hot dog with chili sauce on chilies or that sounds good but we didn't go much and then jerry's uh ten cent hamburgers back in the day because you had a mom that cooked you were getting those meals that was we were like so excited to go there and people donald day's like you should be excited about the home-cooked meals because

nobody cooks right it is true and people do get excited like i'm always such a good cook so. So when people come over, like, he cooked for his mom, he cooked for my dad. Like, people get so excited because it's like no one does home-cooked meals anymore. And it's, like, so good. It's, like, my favorite thing. It's delicious. It's amazing. We were talking about your lasagna this morning. I was like, what's the last time you had lasagna?

I'm like, well, he offered the other day. But I was like, nowadays, keeping up with Malibu is hard for me. So it's, like, it takes hours. And Moses treats it like an art piece. So. I know. It's beautiful. Treats it with love.

I know. Which is kind of everything. I know. We talked about Mother's Day coming up. What are you looking forward to? Wow. As a new mom of a second child. Just having a growing family.

Like I love having like a little family. You know what I mean? Because it's like – we kind of talked about it, right? Like it's – I'm so happy you and Callie are close. But like other family, you know, and even Callie, you know, one day she can move away or whatever. You know, my brother, all this stuff like that. It's like my dad is always like busy and stuff. And now it's like it's kind of nice to create like your own little family unit.

So you kind of have – Each other. Each other, you know, it's like, and you too, I always think like, oh, you know, and I always tell you, it's like, if you meet someone, if you like, you know, move to France to be with like the president of France or like whatever, like you should do it because you know, it's your life and stuff like that. But it just feels good because I feel like also too, you know, growing up, it's like, you know, that abandonment or not having people, or even as an adult, you know, you feel like you're alone, you're alone on holidays. It's just nice to have like a little family unit and feel love and I don't know, it just

feels nice to have people support you. Like yesterday after we finished the podcast and I went up there and I was filming a video, we were supposed to go to eat. So Moses came and checked on me with Malibu and I was like – I was just talking about how grateful I am. I was like, no, you guys should come in. And then Malibu was just singing and she's just like just talking about how grateful I am. I'm like, no, you guys should come in. And then Malibu is just singing. And she's just like – oh, it's just like – I don't know.

The simple things of life. It's just unique. You see yourself in each of them. You each see something a part of in her. And that's kind of cool. Oh, and she's – and then also just also so much her own person where she's just like so full of like love and light. And she's so funny.

And I'm just like, yeah, I see myself. I see him in her. But I also – and I told you. I mean, it's not like grandma can't. Sometimes I'm like love and light and she's so funny. And I'm just like, yeah, I see myself. I see him in her. But I also – and I told you, I even saw like Grandma Cant. Sometimes I'm like, I suppose I see Grandma Cant in her. Just the stuff she does, like her little faces and stuff. But she also is just so uniquely her, which is cool. And that's why I'm excited for the next baby because it's just like you don't know what it's going to bring. Right. That's fun.

And she brings joy to so many people. Like I love seeing her with you. I love seeing her with my dad. I love seeing her with everybody because she – even out in people just happy to see her I just want to like protect her I just know that's it yeah you know one it's hard people get so jaded in life and you get so I don't know traumatized I just don't want her to ever feel that way I don't want to ever feel bad and I know that's like part of life is you're just gonna feel bad you're gonna get your heart broken your feelings hurt and it's just like I don't know that makes feel bad. And I know that's like part of life is you're just going to feel bad. You're going to get your heart broken. Your feelings hurt. And it's just like, I don't know.

That makes me sad. I think that was the hardest part when I found out I was having a girl. I was like, oh, no. I feel like she's going to go through so much. So I hope because I have experience going through my own mental illnesses and mental health, I can hopefully help her guide through those feelings. Because sometimes when you feel so overwhelmed, like my problem was emotions. And when you're so overwhelmed with emotions my problem was emotions, and when you're

so overwhelmed with emotions, you don't know how to handle it. So you like lash out. You do all these crazy things. Hopefully I can like help her if she... I see you and your girls having deep talks like that, you know. I hope so. Your life and Moses, you know, can share his ups and downs in his life. Yeah.

I think they'll be good listeners. Yeah. Take it to heart. Already she's so smart and she does listen and she's so wonderful I know you described me at like two I was like having tantrums and I'm like honestly she's not like that you know you said like I would be crazy in the mall

she's like very in fact when we go out she's very much like aware of people around her and she's just very I don't know she's just Malibu and I can't picture life before her, which is so weird. Just life before being a mom. It's so weird. And it's a mom forever. I mean, you are a mom forever. Do you ever get tired of it?

Nope. Never? No. It is crazy. It's just who you become. I know people go, I don't want to become a mom. You either love being know people go I don't want to become a mom this is just you either love being a mom or you don't you know and it's just yeah you have you have your own life you can have your own life too but you know to bring children and you need to be there for them you know yeah they need to learn from you and you know what your family values are and stuff. So if you're not there, they're just kind of, you know, free for all, listening to tons of other people of what to do. That's true.

Well, I think you excelled as a mom in so many ways. I like now, like I told you, as a mom myself, I look back, I'm like, oh, my God, how did my mom do it? Like, it is crazy. When you're younger, it helps. I think of that now that I could never do what I did back then now. You have three kids. You're a single mom working. Like it's just like so much. How do you keep track of them? How do you know? It's like, it's great. It's actually insane. Like how you raise us. But like I said earlier in the interview, I think one of the best

things about you is your support. Like the fact that I've always felt support about you. I tell this to most, I tell this to everyone. It's like, I always have my mom's back because you're like the only one that's had my back. You know what I mean? Like through like literally everything and no matter how outlandish I got or how wild I got and stuff like that, my mom really did always have my back through everything. So what is like, I guess,

I think you're most qualified to give advice on how to be a supportive parent. What is the best advice you give to parents who just want to support their kids more and how do they do it? I think one thing you need to know is don't judge them. Don't judge them for anything they do because, um, they'll learn from it and, um, they'll come to you if they need help, always be there for them. You know, don't ever be too busy not to talk to them or especially when they're hurting.

I just think you have to be there every moment. Even if you live far apart, a telephone call, write a letter. People don't write letters anymore. My mom used to write a lot to me, and I have kept them. It means a lot. Just knowing you have somebody. Yeah, and that's why you have a family knowing that you have people to support you you know and have during the good times bad and share your experiences now you have malibu and elvis and you're gonna have so much fun

in life yeah even more so than you know you and m us have had you just add so much you know it is crazy when you have a child you're just like oh my god i didn't think this would be like life could be this exciting again you know what i mean like i don't think i've ever been as excited in life as i am now which is like why i'm so happy and so grateful and like with my birthday coming up i'm like i actually don't need i'm not even buying anything for myself usually i buy something for myself and i'm like i don't know i just feel like i don't need anything because i have literally everything and we have so many experiences to enjoy together and that's why i'm excited to for myself and I'm like, I don't know. I just feel like I don't need anything because I have literally everything. And we have so many experiences to enjoy together and that's why I'm excited to enjoy them through Malibu's eyes.

I'm excited to enjoy them with you because we missed out on so much stuff. So that's why I love doing everything as like a family unit because it just like feels good to not only get to experience it through Malibu's eyes, but also experience it with you. Me being in a happier place, you being in a happier place. Definitely. It's just amazing. And I'm so happy. And that's why I was excited to have you on.

People ask about you all the time. People miss you on social media. And my mom really is just the best. You really are. I don't say that enough, but I feel like. Well, you are the best too. And I wish you the happiest of Mother's Day. Aw, thanks.

Happy Mother's Day to you, Mom. Thank you for all the support. And I definitely would not be here without you. That is for sure. And yeah, happy Mother's Day to you, Mom. Thank you for all the support. I definitely would not be here without you. That is for sure. And yeah, happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. And cherish your mom while you're here. And we love you guys. Thanks for watching.

And I love you. I love you, Mom. Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day. Bye.