Just Trish - Trisha's Sister Kalli COMES OUT & Shows Ring from Girlfriend! | Just Trish Ep. 316

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

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Hello, welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. It's a midnight sun. If you're an audio listener, you're missing out because the visual is me dressed as Zara Larson kind of. I'm in a crochet outfit because my hair is wet, so I felt like a wet dog. Oh, if I put a sexy body, a wet dolphin? A wet dolphin? You're a dolphin.

But they don't have hair. What? Okay. And if you don't know, clearly Oscar's not here. That's my sister chiming in. And so we're already off the rails today. I just got back. I just got back.

I've been up since 12.30 a.m. California time, 3.30 a.m. Eastern time. I had to catch flights, not feelings. I was at Penn State yesterday. We are Penn State. We are Penn State. I love going and doing little mantras at school like that. Like it's fun. Like I love the Nittany Lions.

Anybody know what a Nittany Lion is here? No. No. No. A what? A nitty. A nitty lion. The hotel we said out was the Nittney Lion in.

They are the Nittney Lions. Wow. I know something you guys don't know. Wow. Nitney lions. They're kind of like a mountain lion. Indigenous to the state college, Pennsylvania area. But they are now extinct.

They no longer exist. Well, how old are to be now then? Because they bit around and then the little knockers are nitty lions. And it's their mascot. And Penn State's a huge school. It's big. They just had Zarr Lars and there actually. They're like, oh yeah, we just had Zara Larson come by. I was like,

all right. Okay, you made it. It's Zara Larson, Colin Jones, and me. I was like, oh, I love this. I was like, thank you Penn State for having me. It's fun. I love, I was a lecture. I had a little mug that gave me, and it said like our spa student program, and it's like, you're one of the lectures. So everyone's like enjoyed the lecture today. I was like, wow, thank you.

It felt really, it felt really good. I had to leave midnight after our hot topics, because after we did our last hot topics, it was early in the morning, I had a, I didn't even tell you, I did a, I did a, I did a, big, I did a big thing promotion for my book. I don't know. Oh my God. I know. It was amazing.

It was. That's huge. Yes. Oh my God. I know. I know. I was, and it was everything. I just was like, it was late.

By the time I tested Moses, I thought, oh, quick, whatever. It got late. I was like, well. Like, off the whim or what? What do you mean off the whim? Like, was it planned? Is that why you went? Why didn't just show up to us?

It's like, can I be on? Knock, knock, knock. We did plan it. Yes, yes. It was a big one. So I was like, okay. So you went to Penn State and then that? No, I went to that, then Penn State.

Oh, my God. Let me give you run down. Okay. And I love that. Sometimes I get run down, I can just see Oscar's face being like, I don't know. No, I love it. I love it. Because I, everyone's like, where's your sister?

I'm like, I don't actually know. Who said? Who asked you? Everyone always asks. What do you? Where is your sister? Oh, do you hang out with her all the time? Like, actually, she's gone most of the time.

Well, I am gone most of the time. I barely see my husband. I do see you a lot more, though, these days. I haven't seen you a lot more. That's true. But I am like, I don't know. Who asked where I was? Everyone always is.

But I'm always here. Oh, you're always, you're always hanging out with her. They're asking that, or they're like questioning. No, they're like, oh, you're always hanging out with her. She's always home. No. Who thinks you always hang out with me? I don't know.

People think that I always go out too. I'm like, I don't leave my house. That's so funny because people always just out. I was like, where's your mom? Where's your sister? And I'm like, well, I see them. So that's why I have to like, when I'm with my mom, I'm like, mom, we need to post a picture.

Because people, it's giving me. I see Moses more than you, honestly. That might be sure. I know. One time I came home. Well, you also get the schedules mixed up. I came home one day. And Callie's like, we're starting the podcast.

I'm like, next Tuesday. I said to my sister, Tuesday, September 22nd. She shows up Tuesday, September 25th. And I was like, you said Tuesday. Yes. So then she leaves, she's like, okay. And then I'm like, Thursday. Because my hard, I see her walking in and I was like, oh, you can pick up.

He goes, I'm so happy to see you. Are you like picking up something? Are you seeing Malibu for her birthday? Like something. Did you say happy to see you? Yeah, he did. He did. I hope so.

So anyway. And it doesn't sound like him. That's why I was like, I did you say it because that's nice if he did. He said, we're happy to see you. Oh, okay. I dropped off the present. I was like, well, it's okay. Oh, so you probably thought you were coming to stay and play.

Yes. And then I was like texting. you're like, are we doing that love line today? Because I'm not at all ready to do that love line. And he goes, we're not filming today. I'm like, really? So then my sister is like annoyed at me. I didn't.

You said you're filming. You were because you were stressed about your girlfriend having. We'll go to that later. But you're like, so then I'm like, all right. So you're still, you are good for next, like on Tuesday, September 20th. You're like, I can only stay till five. I was like, oh, okay. And you're like on Thursday.

And I was like, no, Tuesday, 922. Like, I don't know. Even after all. that it was very only read Tuesday it was confusing it was a thank you thank you no I'm saying hearing that I still don't understand what happened but she said Tuesday 9 22 but that's a segue to the real hot topic you said girlfriend well before we could okay say queer I'm hosting a queer dating show yeah we'll get to that we have met that to a top of the show announcement and then we'll get to that there's a lot of queer happening here

It's a very queer Thursday. Happy queer Thursday, everybody watching. Absolutely. Anywhere I go, it's got to be queer or that should be a song. Like, it's got to be May, but it's got to be. Anyways, well, anyways, we could go, I got to do it at the top of the show, you guys. I am hosting a queer dating show. So excited.

So if you are queer, single, and in the L.A. area, this is not going to be gotcha, exposed, It's embarrassing. No, you and your bestie can come together, and I'm going to help you guys find another single and see if there's a love match. I want to love connection. I want to love connection. It's not about exploitation. It's not about sex.

It's just real true love, connection, companionship. So apply today. I'll put the website here. I think it's queer singles. Castingcrain.com. It's with a major streaming network. We have a great production team behind it that have done multiple dating shows so they know what they're doing. I'm the host. I will also be dating with you. Helping you date.

Not Molly. And it's for everybody. All inclusive. Was it? Oscar, who asked if there was if women could apply? I was like, yes. Literally everybody in the umbrella. I think they're part of the queer community. It's yes. It's men, women, non-binary, trans, pan, any, any, Anybody in the queer umbrella can apply. Because, you know, we want to see that. I watch these dating shows, and I'm just like, this is so, one, boring, two, not real, not how we are in the world.

And I was just like, we need to see more queer dating because that is beautiful. And I'm very excited. So apply today. We are filming within weeks. We're filming in just a couple weeks here in L.A. And it'll probably be like a one-day shoot. It'll air really soon.

I think it's going to air around Christmas time this year in December. So it's going to be a very. quick turnaround and it's going to be really, really fun. And I'm excited to help you find love. And then I was texting my sister about it on the plane today. And then she's like, oh, I don't know if we're saying her name, but me and my, my girlfriend come on. Jackie, yes.

Everyone, as for Hot Topics today, it was a renounding. Callie's girlfriend. You, if you watched, picked up on Nuggets. People have picked up here and there. But my sister has now announced her official relationship, which is very exciting. I have. I have hard launched. Hard launched. I love it.

Do you love it? How are you feeling about the hard launch? I love it. How do you decide to be public with your relationship? God, that's really hard because I'm just like, I just want to show you off. Yeah, I think that is it. Yeah, I think the same when people are. I'm so proud.

I'm so happy. Aw, you're like, I just got a show. I have to. I remember the first hard. launched photo. I saw on yours before I followed Jackie. I saw yours. And it was just like, was it, I needed this all along. Was that the caption? It was so pretty. And it was just like, I love, my sister, she is great at photo. She doesn't post a lot, but when she does. And it was just so cute. Just a butt squeeze. Just a little butt squeeze. I'm like, did we need the love

or the butt squeeze? What did we need all along? Because both help. Um, just the love. Just the appreciation helps too. But the butt squeeze does help. You should know. She's trying to poke my butt, not squeeze it. What? Moses loves his kink is adjusting my tops and my underwear. I was like always, always adjusting. I'm like, okay. I do love a butt squeeze.

We love a butt squeeze. No, I'm just, I'm very happy. I'm very, very happy. This is so exciting. As all of you know that I was always like, oh, unfortunately, I'm straight. I'm sorry, I'm straight, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Well, maybe that might be the case for me. Aw, well, it's beautiful.

You don't have to, we talked about this on that love line. There was a question that resonated with you. And it was like, you know, Tana's great advice. Like the one thing about Tana, I think, and that's why I love doing the show with her, she gives actually great advice. She's so good. And so she's obviously, you know, very open. I think she's, I know there's pan.

I think she's by and at least by. But yeah, there's different things and stuff. But let's just go with PAN. Pan, sure, yes. And I consider myself pansexual. But it's like at the end of the day, like, I don't, I love that you don't have to identify as anything. I was talking about this yesterday I was Wednesday too. It's just like it's kind of nice if you don't feel like you need to come out.

Like when you told me you're like, I met someone. I was like, okay. I was shook. I was like, wow, that's great because you hadn't been talking about dating. You were kind of like giving up on love, marriage, all that stuff like that. And then I was like, all right, that's fine. You know, if you're happy being single. And then you're like, I met someone.

Like, okay. And then I get to hell. And I can remember you're going. I am bald. You start sobbing. And you're just like, and I couldn't tell what kind of tears it was. And then you're like, it's a the girl. And I was like, oh, I love.

But it, oh, I didn't even think anything of it. I didn't, it didn't imagine how to tell me. It didn't matter like. And I was just like, oh, that's wonderful. But I think because you were so emotional and it made me so emotional. Were you just scared? Aw. Are you okay?

Yeah. Okay. I love you. I love you so much. No, it's just like, it's just so, it's, like, weird to come out. Did you? Okay. You don't, because, yeah, I can't.

It's different. Yeah. I think it's, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure it's scary. And obviously. You probably hear about it so much and you don't even think one day it's going to be me or something like that. Yeah. You would have accepted, but I'm just like, I think that maybe, maybe it was like different for you to have a sister like that.

I said I couldn't have been happier. I said this is the best thing ever. You sent me, you sent me a TikTok a meme. How does it feel to have a goaded lesbian sister? And I don't know if you identify a lesbian. I don't know. And I don't know. And I don't identify as anything.

Yeah. I'm just like, I'm just like pan because I only want to like love the person. We've always said that. Me and Moses too with our, we're fluid people. That's why identifying as water makes it so simple. It makes it seriously. Like I know it sounds like. No.

I know. I get it. I get it. You categorize it into smaller sections. It's just one broad section. Moses was the most honest about. about his dating history and just everything when we first met. And I thought that was like the coolest thing about him

because he was just very open. He's just like, I'm just me and love who I love. And so it's like, yes, you call it pan. He calls it fluid or water, you know what I mean? And I like the concept of that because I feel the same way. You're just attracted to who you're attracted to, you know? It's like, and I do think it's, it makes me, it makes me sad that you were even worried or scared.

I wasn't even worried. I just like, it's a big, I don't know. It's just like, it's a big announcement. Especially because I was like, I don't want to date anyone. Yeah. Do you think maybe it's because when you said you don't want to date anyone, you dated like, I want to say horrible people, the wrong people for you, like wrong people. Is that why you didn't want to date? Because for so long you did swear off dating. I did. So that's why you had such a turnaround.

You were always trying to hook me up with people. I'm like, no, I'm okay. Yeah. Well, then I just accepted. I was like, honestly, some people are okay being single. and like I don't need to push it or whatever. And I was. I was. I really was. But you thrive in a relationship. You thrive when you're happy.

Even in the, I would say, bad relationship you've been in. I know you like like companionship. And so it was a big, I was just happy. I was just, I was just so happy because I just know. You just do well in a partnership.

Like you love being a girlfriend. Like you love being a partner. You love having a partner. So I was just like really happy for you. It was right before we started filming that love line. Minutes before Tana walked in. You just said, I was like, oh. Okay.

And it was like such a big moment. I was so. I was probably, I was actually like relieved. I was like, and it was great that Tanna was there because she was very much like, you know, being in a relationship with a girl. Yeah, she's like, it's such a different. Yeah. Better experience. You know, it's very, I don't know.

It was great. And she's, you know, she's obviously open about, you know, all the girls she's dated and stuff like that. She was just such a, it's so different when you're with like. I never expected to be dating a girl. But it's the best, it's the best thing I've ever. encountered. It's love. It's like,

it's straight up love, you know, and that's like pure, you know, I think that's so pure and your happiness and everyone. Everyone around me

has been so supportive. Even my mom, my dad. Oh, I didn't know about your dad. Mom and I, yeah, mom and I,

she's like, I've never seen Kelly so happy. She loves Jackie. My mom doesn't love a lot of people. So, I didn't know, you told you,

and I didn't know your dad, your dad's like a little old. He's so I didn't know. Oh, so he's happy for you. No, everyone's just happy for you. Even mom's like, oh my God, I'm so glad you're not dating a guy. Can I tell you?

I was kind of relieved too. I'm kind of like, I mean, I hate to be this person, but far between. It's very, very hard to, too. So I'm so glad and I feel like the men we've dated is just awful. Every time I talk about her, I get emotional. And I'm just like, I'm happy emotional, but when she left, she was here for a week and then the day she left, she was here.

And I'm like, are you okay? Okay, just sobbing. I was like, what? I just missed her. I was like, but how beautiful is it to have like a love to miss? Like that's like the best. I just, I'm glad that you're love. Being in love is the best feeling.

This is the best. And I'm so happy. I've never felt a love like this. What else? It's like a first real love. True mutual love, respect and she shows you off and you show her off. And you guys just look happy. In the photos, it's just like very much like you and your natural state in a t-shirt,

your hair up, food on the bed. I was like, wait, I love this so much. It's like simple. and beautiful and you guys are traveling back and forth already coast to coast. We are long distance. It's awful. I hate long distance, but do it for the one that you love. I can't imagine.

Yeah, I think it's, I think again, going back to Tanaz's advice too, she's just like that long distance kind of like it does suck because it's like you want to be next to someone, but you get to miss them, you get to, you know, be excited to see them. You have lots of upcoming events planned. We're coming to your Valournui. Ball renewal. Trishmas, maybe. Trishmas.

Christmas. We got spring break plans. Oh, oh, my. We're years in advance. I love it. Well, and then people online, too, obviously, they all wanted to know. I saw when you post the picture. I just saw so much support.

And, you know, it's beautiful. I think it's because I've so, like, no, no, no, I don't want a relationship. I'm fine by myself. And so I think this is such a different avenue for me. What was the change that you were like, time to open my heart again? I don't think it was a change. I think it was the person. I think it's when you know.

Yeah. And I think when you were closing it off for so long, like love, I was like, damn, you've got to really be open to it. And if you've known... I wasn't even open to it. That's what I'm saying. I feel like you've known each other for a while. But that's why I was wondering like where you were just like okay now I could be ready for love and I just I just called her one day and we just never hung up the phone

Oh my gosh. I think it's so beautiful and I love it. I just love seeing like hope and excitement in you and and you were and you were you were happy I like you were you were yourself but it's like a different level you get like a But that was the step towards it. Yeah because once you're content by yourself you can be somebody else. That's absolutely. Totally true. Yeah, you were totally fine. And I was like, okay, she's good. She's happy.

And then now obviously we see it. I think maybe when you stop yearning for that, it just finds you. Yeah. It's beautiful. I'm so happy and I'm so happy. And yeah, I'm just so happy that every, like, that you don't have to be worried about anything. You can be free and yourself. And I really, she is like my safe person.

My whole, every time. I know. The pictures you said. And I'm just like, I can tell. I can just tell that you're like comfortable. You guys just, you know, you're yourself. You're, you know, I think that's the big thing. It's like, I know even when I got with Moses, you're like, you're just like yourself, you know,

and you talk about yourself. You have to be a certain way. And it's like in the pictures and everything like that. You're not pretending. Yeah. And mom met her and she's like, she's great and amazing. So I think that's, like I said, mom's a tough cookie. She doesn't say that.

Our brother's girlfriend. It was always, you know, it's tough, you know. But I know when she. met her she goes oh my god you met your moses i know i mean we cried too it's just it's so it's so great i'm sorry i didn't know she was using that lingo she said it to me too she actually texted me that too i said it did i love that i met my moses um i think it's beautiful i love that everyone was very excited thank you for sharing the update oh my god thank you for thank you for me my sister oh my god

Of course, I'm so proud of you. I've always been proud of you. I didn't think I could ever be more proud of you. I think I'm proud of than ever. You remember I was appointed to tell everybody. I wanted to tell NAS and I just like, I promise I won't tell anyone. They're like, can I tell anyone? Yeah.

I'm like, yes, you could tell everyone. I know. But it's kind of exciting. I'm like, do you want to tell Glam? Because they were so excited. NAS is so, now. I love that. I love that.

She's like, I'm texting your sister right now. And then it's just great because she was like. It is scary. Like, I'm blessed that it wasn't scary for me, because I am in this environment, you know. But I... Yeah, we're surrounded by beautiful love. Yes.

It's amazing and I love to see it. I was so excited. And I was so proud. I was so happy. I was so proud and so happy. And I, yeah, it is scary. I know, you know, dating people and girls, you just... Yeah, I always...

I cut it off early because I just was like, I can't see myself. I was like, I can't see myself introducing, like, my dad to, like, a girl. You know what I mean? And that's like, it holds you back sometimes. So I love that you were like just open and like didn't care. And you said that too, a family, like I kind of, I don't care if people, other family and stuff. You're like, I don't care what they think. And that's how it should be.

But luckily, our family's all. My dad didn't even blink and I was like, oh, well, it's, her name is Jackie. And he's like, oh, that's great. I was like, no more reaction. He's like, no. Yeah. He just, I'm happy to tell you. He just wants to hear you happy.

Yeah. So he hears you happy. happy. He doesn't care what. And that's beautiful because it is such a different generation. So it's like obviously like older parents and stuff like that are like could be a little more. Oh. Oh, you know what I mean? But I love that. And yeah, I think again, yeah, just seeing you happy and in love, I think that's what everybody. I really lucked out in that regard. She's beautiful. She sounds so sweet. We're mutuals now. So I get to see her story. It's very exciting. Can't wait to meet her.

hopefully get to meet her before the wedding but maybe that's the it's like a second month away it's going to be so soon the wedding though yeah it's gonna be really exciting the Valourne with Disneyland it's very exciting I can't wait for it

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Thank you so much to NoCD for sponsoring today's episode. Oh, is a surprise? I'm going to wear white this time. I think I missed my big white bridal moments. I'm going to wear white. Well, you did wear white in Maui. Oh, yeah. That's true.

But it wasn't giving bridal. It wasn't giving fantasy. Yeah, when you texted me today, you were like, oh, you thought you've been thinking about future with Jackie. Oh. Which is crazy. My sister's always been like, no. I'm not going to get married. But ideas, when you fall in love, you're like, well, maybe.

It's the right person. I might get married. I would love. I've been pushing everyone to get married just I want to go to a wedding. I was like, can we have a wedding? Mamos is I've never been to one. What?

That's why we keep making so many. You're the only two invited. How about that? Love, I'll officiate. Where are you going to do it? No, it's not. Oh, my God, I thought you were even going to tell me you got engaged. But it is.

It's like a promise ring? Dairy ring? A little bit. Not a dairy ring. You don't even know what that is. I do. We just talked about a dairy ring. Well, granted, I don't know what it is.

Can you explain? Do you know? Did we talk about this? Yes, we did on a love line. Oh. What is it? Okay, what is that? Is that that that?

No, this is. You're wearing it? Are you sure you're not engaged? I'm nodding it. This is like. Intention. Yeah, an intention. I thought you said attention ring.

I'm like, rude. Intention. Got it. Of getting married. I love it. My sister was like, I'm never getting married. Yeah. I'm never having kids.

that's so crazy. Well, I am happy. I'm a firm believer. If you don't get married, I'm going to get married, you can just be in love for sure. I will say I do love an engagement, though. I do love, like, give me that ring. Oh, my God. I do think it's in the works.

So don't worry. Oh, my gosh. So exciting. I know I was very, anyways, I'm very excited. No pressure. I know it's very, like, it's very fast, but I have never felt like this in my whole life. I think when you know, you know, I think I was trying to get Moses to marry me in two weeks. I was like, let's get married.

I almost work up with him. I'll never ever forgive myself. I'm so sorry. I steered you wrong in the whole engagement section. I was like, what did you say? I said, oh, well, when's the next time she's going to get glammed? It was you! I can't wait for Jackie to ask me.

I'm like, oh, I know a perfect proposal for Callie. I think the perfect proposal would be at medieval times. Oh, really? Yes, I think she would love that, actually. I would actually love that. I would love to be the princess. trying to think of something you would hate. You would be down for anything.

I'd be down for everything. No, you had good intentions. That's valid. I did. It was, to be fair, I didn't know it was going to be Jasmine and Aladdin. Well, we, first of all. It was worse.

We were Jasmine and Jafar. Which is like, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Okay, well, to be, she's being held captive by him in the red outfit. So why was I Jafar? Because we were going to do a cosplay as Jafar. Because it's the sexy one. It was like the sexy red outfit. where she's like his captive.

So that's good. No, but he's like the villain. Did you want to get engaged or not? Period. I did. I would have done. But those are more of my colors, red and black. Like that's more my colors.

You were happy with your engagement outfit? Yeah. Great. Well, we manifest our Disney wedding. We're coming back now full circle. So maybe our wedding. Peter Pan will present you with the engagement ring. Okay.

No, no. That's like my one big egg. I don't want to be in like gay too. No. Engaged. You don't want to be engaged? No, I do want to be engaged. During a wedding.

That's so big. It's just a vulnerable. I think it's kind of cute. Everyone's in the mood for love. No, it's not about me. It's about you. First of all, everything's about me, so it's fine. It's not going to get engaged in my...

I think I know what you mean, like in general, like, at a wedding maybe, but this is a baller-ro-law. Yeah, it should be about you, not me. If the moment strikes. Oh, my God. Maybe it's going to the fireworks at night. and just don't let that happen do you like Disney are you a Disneyland person I forget banned you're not coming to everybody that face what do you mean that's crazy if you're not

automatic like I love Disney came with us I love it but no I won't be getting engaged at your wedding your third wedding yeah I think it's okay so if anyone else wants to get engaged in my wedding I'm not doing that okay but I'm opening it up to other people Oscar anybody anybody else who wants to get engaged by wedding. Imagine me and Oscar. Yeah. In the same time. Double wedding.

I can officiate both. He wants me to perform at his and I can officiate yours. You can get married here. We offered it here to Oscar too. But I don't have to get engaged at your wedding. Why not? You want something that's your own. That's fine.

No, I don't want to take away from you. Or having a Christmas party. Maybe Trishmas on stage. You never know. Jackie. Call me if you need any ideas. That's a good environment to do it. Since my sister was so nice to help Moses help with the engagement I'm here.

to help you, girl. Oh my God. I'll never love that down. I'm so sorry. No, actually I think it's very sweet because he came to me. Yeah, I thought that was sweet. And ask for permission. Come on, that's very sweet. It was very sweet. I really like that. And yeah, he wanted to do it before Christmas. That's the whole thing. Oh, it's beautiful to get engaged around that time because I remember Christmas morning just being like, I'm engaged. Like, it's just like the best, because it's the holidays and it's just like slow anyways. and you just want to be happy and marry and eat and celebrate. And it's perfect. Oh, my hand is so heavy.

It was the best. I was working the other day and I was like, I need to start wearing this more because it was kind of everything. So it is fun. You don't have it on. I know. I had all three sets on. It was really pretty.

Anyways, we have not gone. We got to the hottest topic, honestly. That was the hot topic everybody wanted to know. And truly thank you for sharing with everyone. I thought that was so sweet. I was excited for you. I would be the first to be like, tell everyone my sister. But I'm very happy.

And you can identify if you want. You don't have to identify. you can just be you are. I'm not a miss. No. Well, but also, if you want to find your queer couple. Yes. But yes, I have a streaming service and I are going to find your love match.

Queer love. Queer love. Especially with the name of the show, the same of the show. But I am very excited for it because it is weird how there's no queer couples on anything. Can I just say I've had so many people from my streaming, like, platform, say, oh my God, should I apply for this? I'm like, absolutely. Me too. I see so many TikToks.

So many TikToks. Really handsome. There's this one guy who has like this beautiful curly hair. And like I always see him pop up anyways and he wanted to apply. So I'm like, I need to get in touch with the casting and see

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I love weddings if we can't tell. I need someone to get married. Oh my God, I'm talking like Vanessa Lichet and the love is blind. Like, we need to have a baby. I love is blind baby. He has a girl, calm down. I was giving that. Okay, so sorry.

My apologies. But all right. This is fun. Where do we go from there? That's like the hottest topic. Spicy cubes. That was spicy cubes or slushy nobs? No, spicy cubes.

My sister texted me spicy cubes. I have no idea. Do you know what this is? Spice cubes. Wow, one you don't know. Usually Moses knows everything. They have been on TikTok. Okay, people are sharing like diabolical stories of like, we're in a thruple now because spicy cubes.

Like, oh. Do you know what spicy cubes are? No. It's so funny. Is it a creator? I have them in my pocket right. Is it a toy? What is it?

No, you take them. And apparently like. they're like a little legal ex-caries. I have no, I have no idea what they are. Okay. And why are people in a thruple because of them? No, there's like five stories on TikTok that I've heard like, oh, we've been in a thruple, we got a threesome.

I made out with my girlfriend because I was on spicy cubes. Oh, okay. So it's like an enhancer or something. It's legal? Yes. Is it like when they were selling bad salts at 7-Eleven kind of thing? A little bit. Yes.

Absolutely. Okay. Is it safe? No, you have not heard about spicy cubes? No. My TikTok is all cooking. Every time I hear a diabolical story on TikTok, it always ends in spicy cubes. Okay.

And so are they trying to take them off the shelves? Are they here in the United States? No, no, they're in the United States. And they're not taking them off. And people are just like, this is not bad. Well, I think that maybe you too. should try it. What?

It's just like, why is that so prominent right now? Why don't you take them? You're in a relationship. I didn't take them. You wanted us to, but you're not going to? No. I'm in a long-distance relationship. Why would I take them?

You guys are together. We have kids. We're happily. I don't know. You could be really happily, you know. What is the, I guess what is, why would people take them? I don't know why. apparently this okay

the one TikTok that I saw was this girl was out with this couple their friends and they she put spicy cubes in the margaritas and then she goes hey I'm so sad

that you keep getting ditched by your like dates because the date came here and he goes I have to go I have to go my cat's sick whatever and then I know, he keep going. Keep going.

Sorry, my cat is sick. Sorry, my cat called. He did. He said, my cat's sick, I have to go. And so her best friend who was in a relationship, she goes, hey, I actually want, I want my boyfriend to please you. And I put spicy. I'm not joking. I'm not laughing at that.

No, I'm serious. I'm trying to figure out where this is going. It's just the hot top. It's just you're pissed or you're excited. Are you just want people to be aware? So that's the actual name of it. Like I'm looking up. So that's the actual name of the thing.

I thought it was like a code name or something. I have a feeling that it's a feeling that it's some kind of a marketing scheme for the spicy case. No. No, it's not a marketing thing. That's why I think that you guys. should go boots on the ground here why can't you when you're with your girlfriend why us are they just long distance you guys are just like edibles yes basically yeah so I mean

he wants you don't think so I barely have time to okay anyways so the girl the girlfriend slipped her best friend a spicy cube they both took spicy cubes so so she drugged her No, they're not drugs. They're not drugs. I mean, there's something in them. There's something in them. If he put like rum in my coke, that's drugging me. She knew about it.

And then she goes, she goes, I feel so sad for you. Your dates keep leaving you. I'm going to have your man. My man please you. That actually happened. I got to send this to you. Are you kidding? Well, let us know in the comments, you guys.

I mean, this person is like roofing people, pimping her husband. This is like that person is trouble. Yeah, what? That's what I'm confused that. No, they all knew that. They all knew. First of all, it's just like a vitamin. It doesn't sound like it.

Yeah, vitamin D. Okay. All right. Okay. Never mind. It sounds great and fun and hopefully legal. Hopefully legal. It is.

legal you can get at CV a drugstore. Yes. Yes, you can. I guess if everyone's like willing to take it, I don't know. It's probably, I mean, tomorrow you'll see Courtney Kardashian and be like lemmy. Oh my God. Not the lemmy. That's what it gives when I look at it, the packaging.

It is. That's exactly what her products look like. It's like little gummies that are. You've never heard of spicy hues? I know. I'm out on this one. I have heard every crazy story on TikTok. And it ends up in spicy cubes. I'm like, I got a boots on the ground, you too.

Well, now that I looked it up, unfortunately, it will probably show up on my 40s. Oh, unfortunately, it's going to be an up in. I'm scared. I don't like to put anything in my body because I don't know how long it's going to last. It's just a vitamin. It doesn't sound like just a vitamin. If it's making you loosey-goosey, like you said earlier you said that. I said it's like giving ecstasy.

So that's not a vitamin. That's very hardcore. it's in CVS. Why would that be? Well, so is NyQuil, but I still get blacked out from that for 48 hours if I take it. That's what I'm saying. I'd be careful. I am anti-spicy cute, I think.

But you're not like you're anti because you're not trying to take it either. My girl one's not here. But if she was, try spicy. But then it's like, but I guess you said it earlier was like a three-sum thruple thing, and that drew me off. Well, every story on TikTok I hear is like it ends in spicy keys. So why would we want to take that? I'm not trying to get a threesome.

No, absolutely not. No judgment, but my least favorite thing. Oh, okay. Oh, wow. That was great, though. Honestly, what I had heard. This is why I love you here. You have never heard of that?

No, but I am. Oh, my God. I appreciate it. You've heard of it. I know Jimmy's heard of it. I'll find out soon. Jimmy, let us know. Son a UFO.

Did mom see it? Did she think it was real? No, I don't see it. I wonder she's like, oh, did that UFO happen? I don't think she watches her. I posted it. Who? Who?

I don't think she watches herself. I posted on TikTok, the UFO behind us, behind me and mom. Did she comment? Nope, I thought maybe she commented to you since you know. No, she didn't know. Well, you know, I thought it was real. I guess, yeah, if you're taking it, be careful. No, let us know. How is it?

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Yeah she was basically being like legally She took the ketamine And so like legally and that's like What the fuck are you talking about? Like it's even Joy Behar Who I feel like had like the worst hot takes It's kind of like No she is for the girls

Yeah she's like well like She still like didn't have like Her she didn't have like control over autonomy And stuff like that it's like And also that girl she was like a lawyer sonny she's like well the law says and it's like what the laws should change then if that's a law like it's shut the fuck up sonny it's crazy it was insane what's so when you're intoxicated you're not exactly you're not like people can't give

content you cannot you also don't know what you're doing how much you're doing or like it happened to me once when i was like basically intoxicated somebody was like hey they want some of this i was like sure and it was the worst thing ever like what happened after but it's like you don't really know and yeah you lose control of her body so and if it's a and also it's not it's a very strong substance and she doesn't know how much she's taking she doesn't know how it's going to affect her the fact that that woman sunny was like well she willingly let other men snort cat and first of all first of all you can't give consent when you're drunk you're intoxicated Hi.

No. You also weren't there. Oh, she, she did this off of this person's member. No. Yeah. No. Uh-uh. I lost all respect for her when she said that.

That was insane. That was an insane take. Even if what she's saying is like, legally, and her statement was this. It's like, well, her statement. First of all, there was seven men there. 57 in the chat. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

No, I know. No one. No one. Yeah, said anything. Not one. The fact that she was like, she consented. You think she consented to all being on Snapchat. You can't consent to that.

Not even like, even if it's like your boyfriend and someone that you're with all the time, it's like if you're drunk, if you're anything, like you can't, you absolutely cannot consent to it. And it's, I've been on, yeah, been on those substances. And it's like even if you remember or you're aware, it's like you still are not in your right mind. you still can't physically consent to it. It's insane that that's a scene conversation that people are having. Not one of them, not one of them even thought, like even though she maybe if she did consent, quote unquote, not one of them was like, I don't think this is right.

So I heard one on the group chat showed her. That's how she got the proof. I mean, obviously didn't stop it, but someone was able to at least show her the group chat so she could come forward because that's insane. A couple things. Obviously, law should change, I mean,

why are frat houses a thing? Like, this probably would happen way less. Because they're still hazing. Let's talk about that, too. Yeah, that just happened in the same, pretty much in the same time that came out.

But I think this happens all the time. I think it's because it's Cornell and it's these seven boys that are like, well to do. And also, like, it's like, obviously it's getting attention.

I think this happens at so many schools, there's so many people. And it's just not as high profile because it's, you know, it's not these kind of schools or whatever. But it's, it is high profile. That's why.

Right, but I'm saying it happens probably so often other places. This happened two years ago. That's why it's so heartbreaking because now you see TikToks of so many people coming out and saying what happened to them in college. Yeah. It happens all the time. And stories that nobody ever heard of. They never complained. They never went to the police with it.

That's what I'm saying. We're only hearing about this and it's great that people are supporting it, but it just happens so much and people don't have that support. I reposted something that says like 97% of like, um, cases don't go reported 80% go dismissed and then like it just like goes on and on

I mean probably so many just get covered up and pushed aside Oh why didn't you say anything because no one takes women seriously Yeah it's or and then this happens Like well legally legally this And legally let them do this and it's like Oh you're gonna ruin a man's life

Oh really? Yeah people don't want the picture shown of the I mean her life was ruined she and you can see it She dropped up school. She didn't continue her education. So it's not like nothing happened to her. So yeah, their life should be affected the same way. Exactly.

Worse. Worse. Also, it's like not trying to like pivot too much. But also I think like Snapchat is the only platform that would like allow something like this. If that's on TikTok or Instagram, it's like like it's weird that Snapchat you're able to post these kind of things and show people like you know what? Because things are disappearing. Things are this. It's like I feel.

Also the odd. Underage, yeah. That you can post that? Yeah, well, that says it all right there. People just get away with stuff. How can you post that? Well, I mean, it's just, I know. And Cornell is prestigious.

That's saying, I think it's like money and power so they can cover up things, I mean. Of course, of course. And it makes me sick. Because their original punishment was just writing essays on what they did wrong. It's just like insane. Yeah, it's really scary. It's, I don't know.

They probably can AI that message too. Yeah, I don't know what that day. essay. It's going up to a federal case though right now. Absolutely. They should be locked up. 100%. I think hopefully some justice will be served. It's just sad that it just happens so

much. So it's like what do we do? I'm so, I'm so sick by it. Yeah. That's disgusting. I don't think there should be any sort of frat. We just had Me Too movement. Yeah, but that changed a lot of things. Like once that came out. We had Me Too and now we have this president.

Yeah. That's what happened. Yeah. No, I agree. It's like what is the change? Like what is the thing that's going to help shift all this? You know? I think with the Me Too movement, like at least people were aware.

Women spoke up more and guys were all accountable and became a little more scared, I guess. I mean, still people do it. But now it's like reverted back. Yeah. Yeah. We go way back. And it makes me sad too. I try to speak up.

Just even like on like, I don't want to bring up politics, but like even women that have miscarriages and they're like, oh, you terminated that pregnancy. Like, no, they wanted that. Yeah. They wanted that baby. Like, why are you prosecuting this person? Yeah.

No, I mean, that's awful. Women's body is a whole other thing. I mean, women in general, there's just, yeah, it's not, there's no justice. Yeah, I mean, that's insane. Meanwhile, there's a lonely male. But I think that men can be lonelier They should be As I'm saying I think there should be no frats

I think they should be absolutely lonelier Maybe they need to be in like an island Just castrated or something That should be legal It used to be during the Game of Thrones era Casteration That used to be illegal? Remember he was a eunuch on Game of Thrones

Lily Allen's brother? Okay Game of Thrones is not What really? You stop doing shit when you don't have a penis that's for sure you know what you know so that's i think the only real that in education i mean kids needs to be educated it starts at home parents i see a lot of that too i've been reposting is yeah like teaching our boys young yeah i did see your post that was a great one yeah but also sticking up for women as we do

if you're silent you are complicit there was once um we had like a Halloween party. And because when this happened suddenly, like this flash of memory of that. And we threw like this big party. And it was a house party. And I remember like in the living room, somebody was intoxicated.

And some guy was like, oh, we should take her upstairs. She should lay down in the bed. And something, my head just clicked. And I was like, no.

She's not moving from here. Like, and the try to, people keep trying to convince like, oh, no, she should lay down and be more comfortable. I was like, no, no, like this person is staying here in the living room. That's good.

And it was a big part, lots of people and like hundreds of people. But it was just weird, that moment I was just like, who are you? And what do you have to do with this person? Why is that even something of your concern? It was so interesting at that moment where I was like, no, no, this person needs to stay here visibly where everyone can see her. I think it was just such a normal thing. That movie 16 Candles, Jake Ryan, the popular kid at school, his girlfriend is. like blacked out drunk in the convertible and he literally tells the little nerd to just like

do what he wants with her and he like and she goes did we she goes did we like she wakes up and she says did we and it's like this and that's like in 16 candles like a john hughes like mainstream film and it's like i think it was like i think people just did that and it was just a thing and i mean i know i mean even in the early 2000s i mean people it happened all the time if she says no if she's sleeping if she says it doesn't feel good even drunk. If you're drunk, you stop. That's no

consent anymore. I think it needs to be like an enthusiastic yes. I think it can't be like, I don't know. Maybe I guess if you want. It needs to be like yes, hell yes. I think it's just like otherwise. But I guess. I mean my God, Malibu was playing, okay this was years ago but like Malibu was playing with someone

and she goes, oh you're a baby, you're a baby. I'm like get away from her. That's like the kind of of protection that I think that people should be doing. I have hope that, you know, the more people talk about this, the more it'll change. Like I said, the Me Too movement helped in the sense that like it happened for so long in Hollywood for like 100 years it was going on. He did just get convicted, by the way.

Convicted. And I think people got scared and people are more like, which rightfully so, you know, I think it's, I think over all these things. That's why I was talking about like to catch a predator too. It's like, I think people are at least aware. aware that they could be caught. I think back in the day, like there was no. I don't think they care.

That's a problem. Some people don't, but some, yeah, some people don't. They won't stop. Yeah. Like a. Men are sickness. It's devastating. It's crushing.

And I try to just, you know, be a voice because I think the louder we are, the better, you know, and more supportive people will feel coming forward. But it's awful. But to Sunny on the view, like, you're on the view. You are liberal women looking out for women. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, even if it fits the law and you're a lawyer, Like you and Joy Behar is like, okay, no, there's something wrong with that.

Like, what do you talk? Think if it was your daughter. Think if it was you. Like, it's actually, it's, uh, your sister, anybody. Like that's, it's, that was a disgusting take on her part. Seven, seven people violated this girl. No, 57. Yeah.

57 saw it happen and no one said anything. Mm-hmm. And she had the, the guts, the goal. Yeah. Well, luckily she had, you know, something, the Snapchat's to show, because a lot of girls don't have that to show for it. No, Johnny had the goal to say, oh. That was absolutely disgusting and she should be off immediately because it's like this is kind of, I would hope, but unanimous. And she's a lawyer.

I know. Well, that's the problem. It's like that's why people get off. It's like they have these lawyers and although I did see too that man who was found guilty of the American Idol singer. Oh. The mistress, he was found guilty. Thank God. I don't know what's happening in this world, but...

Men? Bery it. I'm with you. I'm with you, girl. Men is happening. See how I was relieved when you said you were a dang girl? Thank God. Thank God. I'm honestly...

My mom was relieved when I was saying... She knows too. I'm so glad you're dating a man or dating a girl. Not a man. Mom knows. Yeah. Never. Never a man. Speaking of awful men. Oh, God.

More? Then we'll get to some fun stuff. like dancing with the star or something, but Brian Austin Green, you know him? No, I don't. Inline me. I know him. Oh, I don't know.

What do you know him from? I know him from. What do you know Brian Austin Green from? Wait, first, wait. Do you know Brian Austin Green? Not yet. Oh, okay. Really?

I know two and know him from, but tell me. I know two and no. And then Megan Fox. Oh, he's. Too long that you know him as Megan Foxes. Oh, he's days. Someone knew. You might know him.

He dated Bree on a season of Desper Housewives. He was like the young plumber that she dated. He had three kids with Megan Fox. He had a kid before Megan Fox. He has a kid now with Shauna Burgess from Dancing with the Stars. She's a pro. She just returned this season. She's paired with Tyler Cameron.

I think he's a Bachelor. Pretty attractive guy. Has like a six-pack. It's her first season back since having the baby with Brian Austin Green, I think, like, three years ago. So she kind of was out of it for a minute. They were partners on Dancing at Stars. Brian Austin Green and Sharney. They went through it together.

He's busy. He is a little too busy and no judgment. But damn, you know, if it's a woman, huh? What happened with him? Well, a lot of kids. Again, no judgment. But the thing is, people would judge a woman for having three baby daddies, but he has three baby mothers. We're all judging men today.

That's what this episode is. On trial, Brian Austin Green, come up to the court. Yes, you're on trial because he's been posting a series of TikToks that have given me the absolute ick. And so, yeah, so like I said he was a former star of like, 902 and out, obviously the guest appears as only desperate housewives had, yeah, most people know him as having babies with Megan Fox because Megan Fox is so hot and he was dusty crusty when they met. She was like 18 and he was dusty crusty 90s husband. Attractive, I suppose. Not anymore.

Something's going on with him. But so then he did dancing stars, got with his partner. They had a baby. She's beautiful. His partner, I guess. And so she's on this season. and she's crushing it. Like, they're pretty good.

You know, I don't really know The Bachelor, but she does great choreo. She's won, I think, before. I think Sharna's won before. And he's been making TikTok saying that he is, that he's lonely. And he's like, my wife has just been gone a lot. And all her time is spent away. And everyone's like, work? People are usually gone when they go to work.

Oh, she's supporting you? Oh, she's supporting you? And he's, period that. After. Bright Oswald. Her last gig was dancing with the stars. She's still on dancing with the stars as a pro, which is really hard to get.

His last job was 90210.10. Let's be real. Yes, the relevancy of it all. I guess he had the Megan Fox arc, so that helped him. That was not a job either, by the way. Yeah, he didn't seem great at that. Well, so then he's making these text talks.

He's like, I'm at the movies again by myself. And he's, and everyone is like, what the fuck? Like, why aren't you supporting? Exactly. Exactly. Like, your white partner. mother of your child is like back working 12 hours eight she's coming home she's like you're in l.A you're in l.A. together she's coming home laying with you in bed like oh how are you not

what's what's the last job that he did what's the last acting job that he did well he just hasn't that's why oh he hasn't well that's where it comes from it comes from lifetime maybe well we do love a lifetime movie well i do love a lifetime movie but he hasn't even done that he has not even done that he's coming obviously insecure i mean he's definitely like like she's spending all her time away. And it's like, it's just manipulative. Of a man is insecure. It's just manipulative because it's like, you know, she was,

she did set out a few seasons. She's back on it. She's doing really well. But I do love the comments because comments always pass the vibe check on TikTok. They were saying like, I'm just going to vote more for Tyler and Jana. So they stay longer. And I do love that. That everyone's coming together for that.

Because she's, she is crushing it. And she looks great. And it's like she's a mom. She's working hard. And it's like you said. It's like, you should be so happy that you are. finding these beautiful women that want to be with you because you are musty, dusty, crusty, you don't work.

And, like, how are you not being so supportive? Like, you see all the other dance pro partners. I think her name's Briley Armstrong, I think is her name. She, you know, she's super supportive, always being like, vote for that. But, you know, vote for our team. He's with, I think he's with Sierra. And, you know, very, very supportive. And it's just like seeing this as very toxic masculinity.

It's so refreshing. Like I have been with you for my whole life, right? Literally. And literally. And Moses is the first partner that's ever only been supportive and has found his only, like his own way. He's like, I'm going to do cooking videos. I'm going to be water, okay? Yeah.

That type of water before me, but yes. Okay, I can't take credit for that. But like that's how you should be. You should have your own sort of identity. But like this guy is. But even if you don't have the identity of a supportive husband, like it's like Whitney, when Connor started doing Dance With Stars, she became Connor Levitt's number one fan.

Because Dancing with Stars is quite, it's the biggest story. It's very hard, especially for the pros. It's the biggest show on TV. It's having its moment all over again. So it's like when you're on Dancing Studios, Whitney stopped everything to be with Connor for a week. It's like you be the most supportive spouse. But especially when you're not doing anything,

Like I said, he's not doing cooking videos or podcast. He's not doing anything. It's like, now you need to be real supportive. Now you really need to be the most supportive. And you should be with your baby cheering on, look at mommy on TV. Like, vote for her. You know what I mean? Like just doing everything you can to campaign.

Why do you want to be that? Because you're insecure. But he's old. You're too old. You're too grown. You have too many children. Like to be this insecure. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's not like she has a talk show where she goes every day to work or something. It's a few weeks. It's done. A few months. But, yeah, you are gone a long period of time. You are gone like 12 hours a day.

But everybody that goes on that show is doing that. And it's for, you get brand deals. Like she gets tons of brand deals. They did one. There's an opportunity. We had babies at the same time. I think me and Sharna, when Malba was born. And they were doing like these vitamins too.

So she's like getting great brand deals from this show. She's very relevant. And it's just something that everyone could see through it on social media. So I was very happy. But it's just like, you're embarrassing. Stop doing that. Oh, my God. I'd be so embarrassed.

If I was on Dancing with Stars, and Mo's just being like, she's gone all the time or even when I'm traveling. No, I pride. I do. I love, I love that you guys are both your own people.

I really do. Because your stakes look great with the watermelon and you support, you hype it up too. Well, I mean, I love eating them. They are great.

No, even the stuff that you don't really want to eat either and you do end up liking it. No, like, dumplings or, you know what I mean. I've requested the dumplings. I like the dumplings. I like the tomato soup, which I never ate tomato soup.

It was kind of good. You would have liked the tomato soup. I would love. Can I just say that every time I come over, he does always have like a to-go container. I know. It's the best. I know he almost made stuffed peppers today, but he didn't have time. He was going to make stuffed peppers pumpkins. I think tomorrow he's doing stuffed shells. Maybe if we have time, we're trying to go get cars in the morning. We'll definitely do something for you guys for the...

Like maybe the chicken fingers and stuffed shells for not because it's long night-level day. I am lucky in life. I am lucky in life in every aspect. This is glowing. This is new love. This is being in love. She's just like, I'm just, no, I am. That's why I need to apply to the show, because this is the result.

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I always said, and that's the first thing I said to you, what I knew you were in a new relationship is like, don't let anyone's outside opinion. You know how you're feeling. You know you're in love. You know this is the best person ever. So before you told everybody or whatever, I was like, don't want anyone else give your opinions on your love or Jackie or anything like that because it doesn't matter. Like, any other other than opinions doesn't matter to me because I know how lucky I am. I know how happy I am. I know how much I thrived since meeting Moses. I think he is so supportive and I'm just like, couldn't care less.

Someone else and maybe. Moses is the worst person. He's the asshole. Whatever. I wouldn't. Maybe to you. I'm like, to me is great. So I don't know.

So I have no. Not that anyone says that. But I'm just, you know what I mean? I think it's just, you know, people have opinions. People have opinions and whatever. Let them have their opinions. That's not your reality, though. It's not.

And it's like, yeah, I just know I've never been happier. And I feel like if people can't see that, then that's their problem, not mine. You saw how I was, pre-moses, and I was like, well, if you want me to go back to that, I don't. And I don't. It's great. This is a great match-up. I'm very happy. I'm very happy.

I do. And they are all my nieces and I'm content. Aw, they're wonderful. They're upstairs. Malbu made a dress out of. Construction paper. Yeah, construction paper. Oh, my God, I can't wait to see it.

It was beautiful. Although she couldn't get out of it. I think she was taped in it. She's like, how do I get out of this? And I was like, oh, it was so cute. I mean, she's really like a product runway. She was like, I'm like, how did you put all those pieces together? It looked like a dress.

She was so happy to pose. I mean, I really thought, yeah, I thought he helped her. There. Well, I got through the construction paper. Oh, my God. Okay. And she was like, I'm a fashion designer, though. Yeah, she's got a fashion designer.

She's like, I have a fashion designer. Okay. I love that. I was like, where did you learn fashion designer? designer. It was just so, so good. And then she had that card from my aunt Julian. She's like, fanning herself. She's like, I'm just hot. I love that. She's just such a, she's so you. It's so amazing to see somebody born like a diva. You know what they mean? Because it's like, she's just like so. She's a diva. It's amazing. Yeah. She's very much like, I want steak tonight.

Oh my God. I can never, ever, ever forget the time that you told me you were pregnant. With Malbu? What, what had I tell you? I was in Target in Hawaii. Really? What? You were? Oh, I think we FaceTime because you weren't here.

That's right. And it was February. And we were, it was like two months. Yeah, yeah, you were gone and I wanted to tell you. I can't, I could not believe it. It's pretty exciting. I couldn't believe it either. And I want to think about that.

I think the third one, you really couldn't believe. I remember Callie's face at the third one at Christmas I was like oh my God same we didn't even record that reaction because I was like to me even too I was like I don't know okay I love this

yeah that was a scary one the first one though was the first one they were all great I love all of them first of all we couldn't imagine our life without Aquaman the biggest he's happy to be here that's for sure. Are you watching Dancing with the Stars this year?

No. I never watch it. I never watch it. But I only get the cliff notes from Mom. Oh, she watches what she say. I don't want to. I know. I know.

When we did the extended Patreon, I had to be like, cut, Mom, I'll be like, I know you love them. But I was like, Mom, if I love them, let's not talk about them. You know what I mean? I saw the guy with the Birken.

I saw... The guy with the Birken. Is that another guy? He had the Birken. In the audience? Oh, in the audience from Traders. Oh, he was there for Mora. Mara Higgins.

Well, I love Mara's with Mark this season. I love Mara and I love Guillermo. Those are my two favorites. Yeah. I think the other ones are all good, just not my favorite. I like interesting. I like fun. None of them are fun or interesting.

Giamo's fun, and Whitney's very pregnant, so it's fun to watch. And then, yeah, I really like Mara Higgins because she's like, you know, not a dancer, but giving it to her all. Taylor Hansen just went home And everyone was... Wait, was Julia Stiles on this one? Julia Stiles was with Ezra, yes. She's off.

No. Oh, she's on still? She's still on. Okay, good. She's with Ezra. There's... Yeah, Taylor Hansen went home with Britt, who I love Britt as a pro. I feel like...

I feel like she doesn't get paired. Like, she should have been paired with, like, Harry from Glee, like, Harry June. Like, I feel like she just doesn't get the right partners. And I do think that has a lot to do with it. I think if you don't give someone like the right partner, you kind of set them up. Although, you know, like, Guillermo and Whitney are crushing it. But a lot of people just think it's like not fair, the judging system and the way that people are sound. Because Taylor Hanson was really good.

Remember Hansen? Mbup. He was at home. And Bert was really good. They were really good. Yeah, like, this should have been someone. The middle, younger, or older? I do not know.

Okay. I can't even tell you the name of the other Hanson brothers. But I love Hanson. I love dancing with the stars. And... And everyone's just like, that's the greatest song that was ever written. It was the greatest. It was the greatest song ever.

That's crazy. Now, like, looking back, you're just like, Jonathan Taylor Thomas got arrested down the street from us. Oh, my God. I sent that to you. I was like, where did he go? Yes. I thought I sent it to you.

I sent it to you. I was like, where did he go? NAS sent it to me originally. Nass was the first to send it to me. No. Yeah, Nas, like, down the street from you. Shout out, love you so much. I love Nas.

My, my, lesbian icon. I always think that, too. She watches the podcast. She goes, yeah, my friend was telling me to say, watching the podcast, and said my favorite photographer who's a lesbianist says, I just love her. She's just so fun. I just think she's, like, the best. She's my favorite, like, human being ever.

Yeah, if I ever get married. My sister's going to hire you to me my photographer. She's the best. Nass sometimes I hire her just for the vibes, because honestly, like, even if it's not photos, I'm just like, can you just come hang out? But I guess bringing a hammerout. She comes over to me when I was like

just like hanging out with the kids. She goes, okay, Lesbo. I think she was the most excited. I was like, you know, it's just fun. I think it's just like, yay, welcome. You know, I think it's one of those things. I don't know. I love it.

I love it. I love it. You're like, don't you just love having a go to lesbian? I was like, actually, yeah. I want to post about it everywhere. She's the best. No, she's like an amazing person. No, her girlfriend actually messaged me on Instagram.

She goes, do you want to double date? I'm like, yeah. I'm trying to, I like want them to move out here, but I feel like I don't want them to feel pressure. Sorry, you're not gay. First of all, I feel like I'm queer just because I have a male-presenting partner. We're queer love too.

You guys can come too. That is funny. I saw a meme the other day that's like, oh God, I forgot what it was. It was something like, if I'm dating a boy, I'm heterote, if I'm dating a girl, I'm lesbian. So it's like bisexuality doesn't exist unless I'm dating two people at the same time,

like a boy and a girl or something. Because people will be like, no, you're dating a man. you're straight. Oh, you're doing girl. And granted I will say I haven't had any serious girl relationships. I tried like once, but that was more like a thruple thing. And yeah, I feel I was too scared. I think I was too scared to like export. I don't think that anyone has to identify as anything. I, hot take, you don't have to identify it. You don't have to label yourself. Because everyone's like, oh, so what are you? What are you? Are you by? Are you

lesbian? I'm like, I don't know. I just love who I love. And that's okay. But if you want to wear she as lesbian, you can do it. I have a little of lesbian in there. I love that shirt. You can just be, I don't know. My friend Jenny is like, I think that you are always just pan. You just like who you like. And that's all right.

I feel deep down, this is a real hot take and people don't like when I say this. I think deep down everyone kind of is pan, like, but they're too scared to maybe explore anything else. You know what I mean? Because it's like, yeah, sometimes you fall. It's like, you know, when people are married to a man and then they transition to a woman and they'll like stay and like, how could you stay? Or they don't stay because they're like what?

But it's like if you fall in love with the person, I agree with that. I agree with that. If you're, if you transition to a woman, I'd be like, if you wanted to still be with me, I would, of course, yeah, I'd be like, I still love you. Like, that doesn't. So, you know, I do think there is a thing. I think some people are scared to. And I was too.

I think I was scared to really fully try, you know. But I've definitely dated trans people and I've dated, you know, non-binary. And I've dated, I've dated all types and stuff. And I think I was ever, yeah, I think I was scared when I was younger. to fully because, yeah, judgment. But I'm glad it's not like that. You had identity. Yeah, still do.

Yeah, there's a whole, I have a big struggle with gender and sexuality and identity in general, just in the overall identity. You don't have that struggle with anything. Yeah. You just have to have a good support system. Yeah. I'm learning that. Finding who you are, as I said yesterday at Penn State.

Find out who you are or no, just live life. Oh my God, you're a big hit in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania actually is a very big. Philly specifically is very queer. Yeah, I feel like especially at these college talks. I'm always talking. Yeah. I love it because once again, I think people are just open. I think it's like really open. They love you. Oh my God, you got mob. That was like, oh my. Seven Brew. Shout out Seven Brew Penn State. It was a drive-thru and I didn't want to go through drive-through because I was making a vlog. I was trying to go inside. I'd never been to Seven brew, but I'd seen it all over. My driver, so sweet, but also got us lost at State College. We were, I was supposed to be four minutes to sheets across the way from sheets. We were supposed to be. to be a seven brew, drove 30 minutes to get to a Sheets, drove another 30 minutes to get seven brew.

Also, hot take, wait. I can't believe you didn't go to Wawa. Can I say hot take? Sheets is better than Wawa. They don't have fried mac and cheese at Wawa at Wawa. Their hot food isn't as good. Remember the Kale Lowry sound? It's like, and then you try to fuck me in a Wawa parking lot?

Do you remember that? Like that is very Kailawari. I love her. She looks so good. Her body's so too. I can't believe you didn't go to a Wawa's. Not my thing. Okay.

I love a Sheets. You haven't had the fried mac and cheese? I got a 20 piece. 20 piece of fried mac and cheese. It was... They're going to cancel you in Delco County. I'm just going to let you know. Dorco?

Delco. Where's Delco? Delco County is like Delaware. Oh. Like that whole county right here. Let us know. Sheets is... Who's Superior?

Oh, my God. You're going to get flamed. I think you're going to get flamed. No, I think that you're going to get flamed. Sheets is so much better. The hot food is so much better. And then I was trying to do my TikTok in my car and... They have pizza at Wawa.

There's better pizza in Philadelphia than Wawa. Like, isn't deep dish pizza? Is that a field of existing? That's Chicago. Okay. Never mind. Well, he doesn't know. Well, it's fine.

You don't go there often to the East Coast Midwest. And whatever. Have you ever been to the Midwest? Chicago? He's been to all the while. I mean, we've been with you in Cleveland. Okay. That's pretty Midwest.

That's not Midwest. That's definitely. I think that's the east. It is close to. Anyways, it's close to there, sort of, kind of. But then when I was doing my TikTok in the car, my driver, because they're so chatty. People in Pennsylvania love to talk. My driver thought I was talking to him, so he's like answering me.

I was like, oh, okay, well, I'm doing my TikTok, but okay. So you're a part of it. But he was a part of it. But he was great. He was very nice. He didn't have to take me everywhere because he was waiting to take me to the Penn State. And I was like, hey, can I? I was like, if I Zelle used some extra, can you drive me around?

He didn't even have Zelle. I was like, what did you think I meant when I said Zelle? But anyways, I found some cash. I was able to give to him. But yeah, he drove me to all to all the places. And then I wanted to go to Sembrough. I wanted to go inside to get like merch or something. It was just a drive-through.

I was like, we just drove another 30 minutes to get to the Seven Burr. I was like, but anyways, they were really nice. I rolled down my window. The guy was like, oh, my God, you're Chishapidas. And then everyone came running out. It was like a movie. It was honestly the most famous ever felt. Someone at the Penn State.

You were very. I was very famous. And then people were coming out of the Sevenbrough, but then people were coming out of the seven brew, but then people were coming out of the drive-through. I was like, we're holding up the drive through them, people were jumping out. And then you could hear in the back of my TikTok, I'm taking pictures with all the people at Seven Brew. And then someone's like, I don't work here, but can I get in the picture? I saw that.

I saw that. No, can I just say, I'm just like, oh, people are like, oh, how is it like being, Georgia Pays is a sister? I'm like, ah, she's a dork, first of all. Oh, that is true. I am. We were just like swashboggling, buckling and. Buggling. Okay.

I love Moses's reactions to, I love it. No, I love this one. about your own. They were my nostalgia moment. Okay, yes. It's true. I'm like, we were just dorks. We were from Dork County. That's what you were saying earlier. That you were saying like Dork County. I was like, what? No, Dork. Yeah, we had the things with the dorks because we had the little spinny hats, remember in Dore County? The little propeller hats with our Frito Lays and our... I mean, that's everywhere, but okay. The spinning hats? Yes.

No one had that. We didn't wear those around. We did in Dork County. We did not. She just made. You want to go to Dork County, Wisconsin? Is it like Dorklandia or something? Like, is it like, are we talking about a place or are you talking about being dorks? First of all, I think that's, I don't know. We lost the plot. No, I know, but I'm saying like, it sounds like that's, that's your show.

They have ducks, like the boats that go on land and water. Anyways, um. I'll buy that. You buy it? I'll probably have one of those. You do love. Yeah, you do love. It's a big one.

People go in it. Yeah. Anyways, everyone's like, oh my God. You have such a famous. miss sister. I'm like, is she? Such a famous. And then I see stuff like that. I'm like, oh my gosh, geez. Yeah, but that's like few.

That's kind of rare because people ask me that yesterday. No, that's not fair. Because when I saw your interaction, sometimes I get recognized at work. I'm just like, we have the same interaction. I'm like, oh my God, hey, you're so beautiful. And you're like, oh, my God. You're so pretty online, but you're prettier in person.

I mean, that's always a compliment. I always love that. I was like, yeah, I'll take it. Thank you. I always get your skinnier in prison. Thank you. Or you're tinier. They say you're smaller. Tiny. You're so, you're so... I love that.

I was like, thank you so much. I always get that. People always think that I'm so tall. Oh, interesting. Well, you give, like, Chloe Kardashian, like, looks so. I'm very, very short. I'm five, three. Did I ever tell the story?

I used to tell guys I was so short, and then they'd be, like, my height, and they're like, well, you're not that short. Okay. Because I think show short is, like, four, 11. Right. But I used to be like, I'm so short. I'm, like, embarrassing you're short.

And then you're kind of... No, but it's true. People are like, oh, my God, you're so short. I thought you were so tall. Because when you see somebody on screen, you usually feel up the screen. Like you're... Moses is very tall, but we are very short. That's so interesting.

I think Moses is not short. I don't think you're only very tall. You're tall. Okay. Calm down. Well, very tall is like sick. How is that rude? There's nothing wrong with being an average height.

He's not average. He's not average. He's not average. I'm tall. I'm tall. I'm tall. And you're not short. You're average.

And then they're short. We're average. We're average. No. I'm saying they're short. like, oh, you're 5-8. I was like, that's my ex-boyfriends. I told Jackie, he was like, you're the tallest person I've ever made.

I love that. You're like, you actually pass the height check. I love it so much. You're 5-11. So I think that's, I think that's like average. I think over six foot's tall. Maybe you're above average a little bit. But that's just another inch from 5-11 to 6.

Yeah, but you're not six, so I don't think that's bad. That's what I'm saying. I'm not, I'm just. tall but really tall is over six feet but you're not sure you're very you're tall compared there's not that many people everyone live they're very tall but yes no and I love I love I love our height difference our brother is six four that's what I'm saying like in comparison of course but there's people who are like five foot like Sabrina carpenter that short we're more like average we're like five four average no average is like five six let's Google where's my dad when you

need to ask chat gbt my dad asked him everything like what is average height for a female It also depends which female because they'll be like, you know, European or like it depends also where. Oh, American. Jesus. You said that's so aggressive. American is everyone. It's every race. Oh, you're one by race.

Oh my God. We're going all over the way. Okay. Well, Moroccan. Right. Moroccan. We're all a little Moroccan here. What's a segue here?

Um, well, one thing we can all agree on is. reading is fundamental. Reading is fundamental. Alex Earl just did an interview with, I think, interview. And they said, what's the last book you read? She said, I've never read a book. Maybe Dr. Seuss, she said. Maybe she's a visual learner.

I mean, girl, why are we admitting these things? Why are we saying that? Or is it an AR? A.R? Remember A.R? What's that? You had to, like, have so many points. Yeah, like he looked at Moses.

Like, he definitely doesn't know AR. I don't remember AR. I know, I know. Yeah. You don't remember AR? Like, you had to have so many points? No. Reading AR? Okay, well, what was it?

Like, it was like you had to read so many books and then you had to take a test on it. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't remember it called AR. I mean, I just remember like English class. Like you read Fahrenheit 51, you took a test. Okay, fine. It was AR. But I believe you, I just don't, I don't remember it called that.

She never read a book. Yeah, girl, like, how did you pass school? Why would we admit this? Do we need to go back to school? She's never read a book? Yes. How old is she? Why?

I mean, Malibu is reading books. Like, Malibu reads a book. No, but I'm saying like if she's an age of like phones and internet, then I believe that. You know, like, people that have not done anything but scroll. You have to read. You have to read. You have to read. You have to read mice and men, Fahrenheit 51.

Yeah, cool cheat so easily. That's what I'm saying. It's so easy to cheat nowadays and just get the summary of the. It's not. Well, and she didn't have a rich dad. I'm just not to, whatever, but sometimes like rich parents. No, shit on them. Shit on them.

Let's go. Shut. Shit on them. I love the vibes today for you. Let's go, rich dad. I mean, the thing is, is, like, rich. And the fact is, you also kind of had a rich dad. Not growing up.

He became rich, like, he did not. And he also didn't give me any money. He also did not give you anything. My dad told his company for, like, so much money to, like, Microsoft. And I was like, oh, my God, we're rich. And then, well, it's not that I got nothing. It's, I didn't. But in comparison, my brother.

You had a shitty car. And then my mom bought me the car. So I'm a shot at my mom. Respect. But my dad. Three jobs. We got to explain it. Right.

No, of course. That's why I always owe mom everything till the day I die. No, I can say that, but. What? What? Don't owe her everything. I will. I will because mom really did.

She really did work so much. She did. She did. Her body's worn out from being like a bar. for 30 years. Like she worked morning news. She was driving a bus at 6 a.m. She went and did like school aid work.

Then she went and bartended at the country club, like just round the clock. She did. She did. Busting her ass. Um, and then she got me my car when I turned 16. It was like a $2,000 Jeep Cherokee. And I loved Johnny Depp and Secret Window.

He drove one. So mom got me one. It got me the shift stick car. And so I was driving that to school. Like she really was so great. And I think what perspective of this, right? I was like, yes. My dad made a lot of money.

He didn't. He was struggling for a very long time. Made a lot of money by selling his company. my brother, when he turned 16, got like a brand new, like, Jimmy Mountaineer drove it back. I was like, oh my God, I can't wait for my car. I can't wait for it. And then, yeah, I turned 16,

curve wickets. And I was like, okay. And then, like, school, my brother got, like, private college and a corvette. And I was like, oh, my God, I can't wait to get mine. And he's like, you can go to the attic. You can go live up there. Okay, I guess it's fine.

But it was just, yeah, it was just, you know, not really fair treatment. But, you know, we're getting past that. And why do we get in the? Oh, you said because I have a rich. I did not have one like Alex Earl where who knows. Who knows? She gave her.

I'm just saying if she never read a book, how she got through school. Assumption would be maybe that they can pay. Even like homeschool people, I remember when I was in homeschool for like a year and a half, I did have my brother do my Spanish. You did cheat. I cheated. Yeah. Oh, okay. On school?

On school. When? What year? Did you finish? I did. I have my diploma. Home school. You went.

Have you finished on time? Yeah, we both did. I had to be, okay, so I was in Chicago or like Illinois, and then mom got married. And she's like, oh, we're going to Michigan. I'm like, no, we're not. How old were you? 14? I was 14.

I was like, I'm not going to school there. How did I end? 14. I do love that. You were like, no, we're not. I was like, yeah, we are. Okay. Well, I was very independent at that time.

And so she's like, okay, I'll put you in homeschooling. I'm like, all right, fine. And then I was in homeschooling. And my foreign language class was on Rosetta Stone. Okay. And I did not finish. What did you take? Spanish.

Okay, the way you said that was so funny. Like, my foreign language class, I'm going to take. It was on Rosetta Stone. Wait, why is that a gag? Why are we, why is that? No, because I didn't finish it. And mom yelled at them. And she goes, oh, you lied.

Mm-hmm. Well, okay. So did you ever- We're all cheating here. Oh my God. What the lie? Get someone else in trouble. You're like, actually, I did finish it.

They don't know what they're talking about. The mom's like yelling at them and they're like. Okay. I was a kid. So apologies to Rosetta Stone if you're watching. She's like, she literally flew in Spanish. Like, I wish I was.

This is not going anywhere. But anyways, yes, I also cheated in my class. But did you read a book? Oh my God, I read many. Sidhartha is one of my favorite books. Will you read it? What's the name? Siddhartha.

Siddhartha. No, so not a book for your... Okay. Oh, he can't read books? The Buddhism book. Oh. Bahak Gava. I did read that too.

What was it called? Bahad Giva? It's 100 in English. You read it? Mm-hmm. Okay. So you read some books. That was the hardest part about me when I was trying to become a monk

Is the vegetarian part or the Hari Krishna I think you can't eat meat you can't eat I have to eat I can let go of like pork and chicken but like fish and steak I love fish and steak You can look like chicken? No chicken it's easy to like go of chicken especially if you don't cook it because of it's so bland but fish and steak I love well same. Oh, segue. Here we go.

I was just going to say, I think we need to read more. I think Alex Erl's admitting she doesn't read doesn't look good for her. Right. Oh my God, we were talking about that. Is she dyslexic or something?

Like, there might be a reason too. Okay, maybe, hopefully. It's quite extreme to say, I never read books. Something generous. I like that you're trying to see the bright side, or a positive side of this. Maybe that is true,

but maybe she'll be a spokesperson for it. She never read Junie B. Jones or Nancy Drew. Nancy Drew. Oh, my God. Goosepumps. Do you remember her name? Love Nancy. Oh my God.

We played that. Yep, the hidden staircase. Oh my God. That was so fun. I loved books. We loved books. We loved books. Yeah, like just reading.

We encountered it in the house. Yep. Oh, yes. We reenacted it. Yes. Or reencounded. I don't know. Well, she's kind of a, she speaks okay for someone who's never read.

So, I don't know, girl. I would start with maybe to kill Mockingbird. To start? Yeah, that's kind of like fifth grade level. We were reading Tealm Walking Bird. Maybe Hungry Caterpillar by Dr. Seuss. That is by Eric. That's not Dr. Seuss.

That's another one. Is Eric what? I don't know. Do you remember the one you read in first grade by Shel Silverstein? Oh, my God. So start with that book. A hundred. Where the sidewalk ends.

I have the book for her. What book? Crying on the kitchen floor. I love crying on the chicken Four Sorry, you're like in some of chickens Crying on the chicken floor is good though

I like that Yeah Alex Give me your Send it to work Give me your PR Can she read? I don't know Maybe like you said

Maybe she can't And then we're just mocking her Well you do have an audio book too So That's true I guess listen to a book Girl why are we saying that Like I would just make something

But I guess if you just never read Then you don't have a book To even make up to Harry Potter Twilight. Does she have a book? Did she write a book? Well, I hope not if she's ever read a book. But maybe she has one coming out next year. She's like, actually, I don't know. But maybe. Oh my God. Everyone does have a book these days. I don't. We should. I mean, this is like a life story right here. We're getting all the...

Part of my book is in there. That is true. Luckily, my sister goes unscathed. My brother, too, was asking about it. I was like, you know, it's good because you caused me no trauma both you. Here's a thing. I knew I didn't. I never was scared You're sprinkled in there But it's you know As an accomplice You have you message during the writing process

And Oh yeah the story I cried I did cry And you're you cried too And you're like I never knew I wasn't aware Yeah

At the time Yeah No it's emotional writing that And especially like yeah Talking about family And just things that you just kind of Shub down or push your side Or like you want to forget

Yeah So sad, luckily, like Oscar was telling you, he's giving me live updates as he was reading. He's like, you know, it's really funny, which is great. But, yeah, there's like some dark parts and shameful parts. And, yeah, especially my sister. I was telling, I was just telling my brother this too because we were talking about mental health. And I was just like, yeah, like, my sister definitely got the brunt of my explosions and spirals. I'd do it all over again.

I'd be there all over again. I feel bad. I wish I could do it all over again. Everything's supposed to happen, how it's supposed to happen. And that's okay. Yeah. But when you have anxiety. and stuff.

I'm like, oh, I hope I was. That's okay. And not a cause of that because it can be a response to trauma and stuff. So it's, you know, papy therapy. No, I love you. Okay. Love you too. I love you too.

Why did you question it? Why did, oh. I just didn't know if I was supposed to say me in. Pam Badgeley's wife, Domino, love the name. Oh, said she was not the reason that he was not doing that. Why did he say that? I don't know. It was like, years ago.

She's like, uh, I said, you can do sex scenes. Oh, she, well, I generally just... Like, how did that come out? I know. It was like a, I don't know if it was a captioner or just saw it on Instagram, but she's like, for the record, Penn Badgley, my husband stopped doing sex scenes because Hollywood is disgusting and he's been in it since 12 years old and they call actors puppets behind their back and it wasn't me.

It was his decision. But I'm like, I don't know if anyone was like blaming you, girl. And I think like, it's fine. No one, no one question it at all. Yeah, I remember that came out because it was a hot top. years ago. It was like years ago, by the way. And also, by the way, can I just say,

he's been still doing sex scenes. Yeah. The last interview was like sexual. I was like, it's all sex scenes. He missed one season, the British season. He's like, I'm not doing sex scenes, but then like went back to being. All sex scenes.

Yeah. So I don't know why she said this. I'm very confused. I remember when he came out with it. He said he wanted to be faithful. And I remember thinking that was a weird excuse because I'm like, well, it's just acting. But she's like, actually,

you can have sex on screen. Yeah. But also, like, You don't also need to announce. I don't know. I thought it was an interesting thing. You know what's crazy? We never,

we never watch all the popular shows. We didn't watch Dawson Creek. We didn't watch vampire diaries. We didn't watch. Those are very random shows. Because Dawson Creek was like, before us. Little liars.

We did not watch that either. No. What did we watch? We watched Full House. Full House. Say by the Bell. But we didn't even watch Gilmore Girls. No, I try to get into it.

Mr. Welding died. That's really. 75. What? I think it's sad when you're, like, so loved and... Yeah, that's really sad. You died, yeah. A lot of people want to know about your new partner.

Oh, did you see the big jeeps lady? Oh, someone to say Lindsay Clancy trial, Moses, if you want to go to that. But let's, we could go to, what did you say? No, I'm not going to talk about big jeeps. You know, you don't even know... Is that other spicy cubes? No.

The big jeeps lady is... The big Jeep lady. Yeah. No, jeeps. Jeepers, creepers. Okay. I'm literally listening to you You know what Jeepers, creepers

Of course, Jeepers, creepers Not the song I know the movie Okay The horror film Well anyways She's like been riding hard She's been having a series on the big jeeps

Okay Like oh he's got a hobby He makes his own clothes Someone's been paying his registration On his car How is that possible? Like she's never Never mind.

This is so stupid. Let me get me a little context of who the big jeeps is. Jeepers' creepers is a guy who is like kind of a scarecrow, I think. In the movie. Any praise on, yes. Okay. Is there one in real life that they're talking about? Oh.

No. So who's the big Jeep? It's the villain in Jeepers Jeepers. Jeepers. Yes. And this girl's being like. He's got a hobby. He is a seamstress.

Oh, she's doing like a little dissertation on this, this fictional character. Yes. Exactly. Oh my God, that was a great word. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

No, this is so stupid. I like to know it. Okay. All right, all right. All right. Anyways, she's like, oh my God. He's got family. He's loved.

He has hobbies. He did make his, he's a seamstress. I love that. So like, where did he go wrong? Well, like, people are supporting him into killing people. Okay. In the movie. Yes.

Who's having this discourse? Where is this at? Is it on Discord? It's on Day Talk. Oh, wow. I won't even talk about this anymore. It's so stupid. You're like, oh, I'm kind of in support of this.

No. Because I was just like, this is so dumb. I actually love it. Yep, I love stories like that too. I love when people are just, especially if it's like a fictional character. I'm not into horror films or anything like that, but I do love it. I do love people like defending. But he is really scary.

But I just love it. What's like? He's wearing a mask? Let me hold on. Hold on. Is that going to be your Halloween costume? Do you have a couple's Halloween costume with Jackie? No, I did actually want to bring that up, though.

What are you going to be? No, don't be Jeepers. You just said you love Jeep, the big Jeep. I don't love Jeepers creepers. I think he's canceled, honestly. I, uh, I kind of don't know what we're going to be. We're going to do Peter Pan. Most wants to be Peter Pan twice because he's going to be Captain Hook in our family costume,

but then he wants to be Peter Pan for our couple's costume. He wants me to be Tony. Who's Tony? Peter Pan's creeper TikTok but not Peter Pan. What is Tony? Who's Tony? She's the stalker from TikTok. Oh, I'm sorry.

That's like the biggest story of the year. Who? She's too busy on Jeepers creeper, creeper, TikTok. She didn't know about Peter Pan. One time. And spicy cubes. I am going to get you guys. I want to get you spicy cubes and you report back to me.

What happens? Okay. You're not going to take spicy cubes? No. I'd rather watch this Jeep or creeper thing that you're talking about. No, don't watch it. It's horrible. It's so scary.

Are you going to horror nights? Are you going to haunt? They have a no scare. Go for that experience. You know what's there? Four Night. Fournight is there. Is it scary?

Is Fortnite scary? No. Why is it at Horonites? I don't know. You should go with Jeff. He's in town. Is he here? Oh my God.

I should text him. He's been doing all the horror conventions. That's what made me think of when he said Jeeper, where he's been like all over doing work. Is Thanksgiving there? I don't know, but he has been texting me. I tell him like I'll meet him at Al Garden. I told him that too.

I'll take you to Olive Garden. There you go. So take him to Al Garden and Horamoranites and wear your scare paths. The blinky one, I had to wear a blinky necklace so I don't get scared. It's kind of cool. It's kind of cool. No, it's too scary still. I'm too scared.

Oh my God. You really do. I don't. Come on. You know when you lived in Hollywood, I couldn't even go down the Hollywood Bullard. Yeah, you were a little traumatized. That must be, let's unpack that. Why are you scared of the characters on Hollywood Bullard?

Let's unload my trauma here. I don't know why. I didn't know if that trauma. I thought you guys just watched some horror movies when you were too young or something. Wow. We did. Moses remembering more than us. Yeah.

Which one? Oh. Way to go. Yeah, we were too young. I was like 13, but I still was scared. This is so unhinged, Jimmy. This is unhinged. This is unhinged.

But honestly, here for it. I'm going on. Literally two hours of sleep from Monday because the first of all problems. I didn't lie flat, so I can't sleep on a plane. That doesn't lie flat. So you can't sleep on a plane. I cannot. On Monday the red eye, I cannot sleep.

And then I kind of, yeah, this morning I couldn't sleep either when there was no Wi-Fi. So I was just like on the plane for like five hours, just like couldn't text, couldn't sleep, nothing. and I was and no food No food I'm like You literally Yeah here and there It would come up with like

It would come with single She literally was texting me Sometimes the plane gets slow enough That you get slow Yeah because I was at the end of it Look at these two I know I did buy it And then United was like hey

We're You don't have to buy it on American Well on United you do You know Ali Allie from Allie and AJ Is now the voice of United Airlines Oh my God I love them

That's you and me Which one are you? Definitely A.J. Your alley. What is? I don't know. The string is.

There's so many strings in this dress and outfit. That's part of the design. I've had it hanging up for so long. I'm like, let me just wear it. I don't want to be frumpy because I feel frumpy with like not doing my hair.

So I was like, I let me be cute, but. Am I frumpy with my hair? No, yours looks great. Mine doesn't fluff up like that. It does not give volume.

You look beautiful. I always wanted to be like you. I just love you so much. Okay. I just gas you up a little bit. I love you too. I just love you. I love you too.

I'm just thinking about Jimmy watching this whole thing from start to finish and being so confused on where what to do. He's going to love it. It's just like being with us on Thanksgiving dinner or something. You know, it's like a family. Oh my God. Oh my God. What are you doing?

You can come over. What are you doing for Thanksgiving? I was just asking. Thanksgiving is such a silly holiday to me. It's like there's always much pressure on it. It's like colonism. Colonialism? Not even that.

I think just all of that. But also colonizing, I don't know. Also, it's just like, people make such a big deal about it. Are you making turkey or what? Moses. He'd be making turkey as he's changed the camera. He's going to make two turkeys because he's going to do his cooking video for Thanksgiving and then probably make one on actual Thanksgiving.

Well, I will be around because you're getting married again times three. Not on Thanksgiving Day, but close. No, not on Thanksgiving Day. Yes. Are you going to be, oh, maybe it proposed on Thanksgiving. Was it Nick that got engaged on Thanksgiving? I think he did. Did he?

Because all the family was around. So he's like, do you want it public or private, just hypothetically speaking? I don't know. Oh, interesting. I thought for sure you'd be like, private. Just us too. But maybe in front of you guys. I love that.

I mean, you know, I'd love to be a part of it. You love to have a clip. I, okay. I'm not going to do the first to post it. I would love to. I would love to. But I, yeah, that's a tough one. Like, I love the idea of, like, big proposals, like, in front of everyone, everyone cheering.

I go, wow, like, you know, that'd be so fun. I liked ours, though, too. I liked ours, just us, because that's kind of special. I never thought anyone would propose to me, so I was very excited. I was just very excited. Yeah, I like that, too, that you guys, like, talked beforehand, and you knew beforehand. I thought that was nice. Yeah, I think it's, uh, yeah, it's so funny because it's,

so old school. Like you asked my dad too and I was like that's so like an old school thing but I liked it. So cute. It's really funny. I liked it because then you didn't even told me during the pros you like I asked your dad I was like oh my god it's then you made me cry because I was like that's so nice like no one needs permission but you know cute old school. Yeah anyways love is love is in the air. Love is in the air and sisterly love is beautiful like frozen tautis true love is sometimes between two sisters there's multiple loves in life. Stop I will never forget we watch it together. I think it was like a time we were like

both going through breakups or like hardships. I think that, I don't know what it was, but we, we watched that together. We just looked at each other and just sobbed. I think it was also the betrayal of that asshole. Remember the one he's like, you think I love you? I was like, because she thought she was frozen. She was literally dying of a frozen heart and he's just like, she kissed me. And then he kissed and then nothing happened.

And she goes, does true love kiss? He's like, you think I loved you? I was like, you're an asshole. But then the sister came to one. the heart and that was the true love she needed and I was like I love it so much that we didn't even know also queer icon too right she's kind of she wore pants in the second one so everyone kind of guess that she was do you remember everyone's like oh she's okay lesbian I mean I would love a lot of Disney characters maybe Luca is gay but maybe not who's Luca? Remember the little boy that was

trying to find his self silencio Bruno? Salencio Bruno he was like a little water boy oh no yeah I think people thought of it as like, you know, he didn't know friendship. If he was like young, so they were just like, he had a really close friend that was a boy and it was cute. It was cute. I liked it. I thought it was cute. But anyways, all right, all that to say.

I love you. Oh. Thank you. I love you, dad. Go check her out in Trishmas, buy her book crying on the kitchen floor. Wait, we're not ending yet. Oh. Yeah, we can still plug it in.

Cut that in anyway. Because Moses had his last hot topic, but that's a weird transition. Sorry. I'm so sorry. Go, go, go. Just update. Because some people want to know about the Lindsay, Clancy update. Well, I mean, it's more than it just, this whole thing was divided the internet. I mean, couples broke up over it, family members broke up over it.

And the internet was divided. It was pretty much TikTok was like Lindsay's innocent. And Reddit was like she's a horrible monster. And it was just interesting to finally get the real. of vindication or feeling some form of vindication when so they went back to court to figure out where this is going to go and big red you know i love big red love that guy down it's her lawyer okay so the first in the first trial you know the internet was doing their own investigation they found out so many details that they were just like wait a minute you know the trial was

about whether or not she had psychosis when if she killed him whether or not she had psychosis or not the trial wasn't about whether or not she did it so as everyone were watching the trial they were figuring out wait a minute things don't match up things don't line up the storyline the DNA everything about the story just doesn't make sense and all of tic-tok became you know everyone became investigators and lawyers and found out all of those details that didn't make sense. But, you know, it's out in the air. Everyone are just speculating.

It doesn't go anywhere. But finally, when they went back to court, this time her lawyer came out and basically said, we actually don't even know if she did it. Like he said it. We don't know that she did a crime and the prosecution did a horrible job and basically did not prove that she did the crime. And then he listed one by one all those things that came up on social media and that people noticed and listed them all and said, we don't even know that she did it.

You guys did not prove that she even did this. And because what people don't understand before the trial started, he asked the judge to have two trials, one to see whether or not she did it. And the second trial, if she did it, whether or not she was in psychosis. And the judge said, no, it's the same trial, it's the same evidence, the same everything. We just have it in one trial. So basically, and then after that, her lawyer tried three times to dismiss the case, and the judge wouldn't let it go. So now he's saying, look, judge, this is your fault, you know.

It is his fault. And with all the respect. It's his fault about the mistrial, by the way, too. Yeah. What do you think about that juror? Well, of course, yeah. In that case, you know, you have one juror that is holding up. He was wondering, he wouldn't say.

And he could have replaced him if you wanted to, and there were many ways to fix it. But the blessing that came out of all that is now they're at this place where they can say, well, we don't even think that she did it, you know, or you need to prove that she did it. And there's so many details that are just when you look at it as far as evidence, there's no evidence. And when you look at the timeline of how long it took for her supposedly to do all the things that they claimed she did, He brought one new detail that we didn't know was that when they found her, she only had socks on and there was no blood on those socks. And we're talking about somebody that was in psychosis cutting herself in the bedroom that everything is bloody. Like how would she not have blood on her socks, right?

There's no print. You know, there's no feet. The splatter pattern was not. Like all of it was cohesive to the. Yeah, if you murdered three people, like you would have. you're walking through, you're doing all this on your feet. Well, her own. It would be her own because she, she strangled the kids.

In theory, the kids were strangled and then she tried to. Downstairs and then she was supposed to like have done this. But the splatter pattern would have been different than what it was in the crime scene. And the evidence was like, oh, she said to Patrick like, oh, I, I, I, the kids. But her, her, she was like, her. her what was it was it? Her throat was collapsed. So she would not have been able to talk.

And also she was like almost hyper hypothermia. So yeah, that's the other thing. The temperature of her body, it would take two hours for a body, temperature to go that low. And supposedly all of this happened in 30 minutes that he was away.

And they had to literally warm up her blood to bring her up. She actually, at some point expired and they had to bring her back to life. So I think I think in theory whoever did this never thought she would survive it. Patrick, allegedly. Whoever did it, they never thought she would survive this.

So the fact that she survived it and is here, that's what threw a wrench in the whole, whatever plan was there. I don't think she did it. And she never, she never admitted to it. She woke up from a coma basically and was told. that she did it. She was on her deathbed

and said, change my beneficiary to my parents. She didn't trust her husband anymore. Don't trust my husband. And also what she did remember didn't happen. So even if her memories were just not,

she had false memories. So even if we go by what she remembers, it's not the case. You know, even she said, yes, I did it. Her memories are not. Because she said she cut the screen and jumped, but the screen was intact. So she never cut the screen.

Exactly. So even her memories are not. And also, I'm sorry to say, but that new, never mind. I'm not going to say that. Okay. Say it and then we can cut it. What were you going to say? Why are you dating someone that looks exactly like it, but like a T-Mew version?

But I did see that. Like, I know a lot of people were commenting, like, with their whole, that whole 60-minute interview. You know, like, why are you there? Like, you were there. Why would you do that? With your new wife? Well, they're trying to control the narrative, but people analyzed all the, everything they say. You guys aren't looking innocent, by the way.

She didn't even need to be there. But anyway, but she was talking about. She wants the thing. And she was like, well, I was just a girl in a cold night. Oh, my God. That's not the way you tell the story when this is what's happening. And she referred to the whole case as a story. So, like, people analyze every word.

she said. Is her sitting there? I'm like, bitch, you weren't there. I can't believe she's, maybe she was. Maybe.

I can't believe she was MD. I cannot believe she's a medical. But having said that is like, well, she has the knowledge of all that stuff, right, how to make things look a certain way and stuff like, because it's like, yeah, the theory is like, she was a part of it allegedly.

Well, like, why is just that as like, oh, she wasn't there? He's like, well, but like she's acting like she was. Like, why are you giving like all this like play by play as if you knew what he was going through at that time? He was a great father. How would you know? How would you know?

unless you were having an affair. Yeah. Why would you know? All of this, of course, is just a legend. A conspiracy theories, but. Andy said that everything that we do know is based on hearsay from Patrick. Nobody, basically, the main thing is that there was no investigation. Nobody investigated the crime scene.

So in theory, right, Patrick said, you know, he walked into the room. He spent there one second. No. even walk into the room like he opened in the food put it on the plate and then went upstairs how do you not see it a lady in the snow right didn't see that and then he just glanced into the room and went down but in his testimony was like there was a cup with crushed medication in it and so that supposedly she took nobody found the medication nobody found a place that there would be crushed the residue, nobody found the thing that it would have been crushed with.

Nobody checked what was in a cup, and they took his word for it. So just to show that the investigation was not even done properly to have all the evidence to say that she did it, the way they said she did it. Why would she have to crush it up to take it? Why would she just take it? Right, because she's an adult. She can just swallow it. It's giving, I mean, obviously now we're seeing a series of patterns of men can't

our wives because they're having an affair, which is crazy. Oh my God, the American Idol guy, too. That's what I was talking about earlier. Yeah, yeah. Well, did you hear his night? Because yeah, he just found guilty. His 9-1-1 call came through of him finding his wife being like, there's two shards to her head.

But he's like looking outside the door. And everyone's like, how would he know she had two shots of heads? He's like, the kids are here. The kids are scared. It's like, if your kids are there, wouldn't your first thing be like trying to get the kids out of the house if you know your wife? And the whole thing was so obviously he was found guilty. But it's just like, obviously we're seeing a pattern of men doing this to their wives that

they're having affairs on. And it's like very weirdly common nowadays. and it's like they have kids. Hey, guess what? Leave your wife. I know. We talk about that. Leave your wife if you want to go with someone else.

There is someone on Instagram that's like, hey, on behalf of every married woman with a husband and kids, like if you want my husband, he's yours, let me and my kids just go away. We'll leave you alone forever. Like that is very easy to divorce, especially a man divorcing a woman. Like women aren't as insane as men. Like you divorce us. We're, okay, we're going to go on. But these guys are like, they think this is the only option.

Kind of all the same kind of looking guys. They're all kind of like these like, you know, middle class, upper class, like guys, friends in a small town with everybody. Everyone's like covering up for them. Like this happens. Drew Peterson, Scott Peterson. Like, I mean, the list goes on and on. And it's just like. Chris Watts.

Chris Watts. My God. Scarys of it all. And it's like, and these are their children. I mean, luckily, like some of them keep their, you know, spare their children's lives, a lot of them or not. Because like, what the hell are like? Like, it's a weird. It's a weird epidemic that's happening.

I don't know. It's very odd. What's really weird about. the whole Lindsay Clancy case is that Karen Reed just had the second trial go on. She was like accused of killing her husband. It was not true. And but it was the same county as the whole Lindsay Clancy thing. And her case was mishandled by police.

That's a problem. Yeah, you get you just get people who don't care or it's guys protecting guys once again. It's corruption. Yeah. It is. And especially, everyone's like, oh, we love the little Midwest. Like, no, they're corrupt. It's corrupt everywhere.

But, yeah, I mean, it's more profound. Small towns are like that. Small towns, yes. Yeah, it's, um. Look at, look at you and me. We were in court cases. Yes. Yeah.

And they were corrupt. Yeah, there was corrupt. Yeah. It's not, um, it's very scary. It's very scary that it's like, and it's also people, I don't, I want to like stereotype. It's like, you know, people that, you don't assume. You're like, oh, they're the family person. They have these kids. Like they have a nice house. They have nice. And these women, the women that are with these men, I mean, luckily that one that was with

the American Idol guy, like, like, turned on him. Sometimes they turn on them, which is great. And then you can like also, but like you're also a part of it. But it's like, you're a woman with this. No, look at that. Why didn't want to be with this guy? TikTok person. Remember that TikTok girl that was like, oh, my, my husband. Oh. And then she's. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, but I, the thing is you don't know and these people have been married, like the Chris Watts, I mean, they get me, they're married for 15 years and have kids. It's like, Jesus, like, I don't know. It's, uh, I guess it's once again good that the internet is here because obviously him now bringing up Lindsay Clancy's lawyer bringing up like, hey, let's do actually a different trial for if she's even guilty because that was never even the case.

It was like, okay, we know she's guilty. Let's decide if she was like insane or not. So I, but because of social media and like the. internet they were able to bring up these points and be like actually so I think this is great not great I think it's like a step forward especially in the in the Cornell case I think people I always thought like well why say anything like what it's going to happen what are we going to do about it but it seems like a lot a lot is being done when you start making noise and people feel supported and that man has not cried once no he scares the shes me that interview I was like you're scary sir he has not cried once yeah the way he talks about his kids so he

found her laying outside freezing to death he didn't even take a jacket off to warm her up or do anything like he just left her as she is like find a body and then when the same thing when he found the kids supposedly took the thing off their necks but but but when the paramedics got there he was just sitting there on the sofa like that's no that guy so bizarre like all of it is how are you not hysterical you're like and he refuses to release his cell phone data so we don't have like you know messages and things how can you refuse that or to make it public but they have access to it at the court including the call to the police that he made which most people in the court seems to think the

call was very genuine but we never heard it and nowadays you don't know they've clearly not except for one juror they'll literally have you know influencers in the court to tell you what happened when you don't Stephanie sue she's got more detail than I know he got us. But it was amazing to hear him cite all those things that we've been following and finding out during this time because it was just like, because everyone was, we're hoping like maybe in the closing arguments, maybe at this point, maybe at that point. And it didn't happen because he's smart. He knew exactly what he was doing. He knew when to do the right thing.

And it was, it was just to hear all that. Everyone was just like in disbelief. It was like a fever dream. Like, I can't believe it's actually happening. and he's actually bringing up all those details. And it was just great to hear that and see. And you saw her and her family, her parents were there. His family was there supporting her.

Yeah. And it was nice to see that everyone were, obviously they know more than we do. Yeah. What did you feel about when he goes, oh, I talk to them all the time. I ask them for help. You ask your kids, your dead kids for help? I didn't see that. You didn't see that?

Him saying that about... Yes. I don't know. He was asked about that in the 60 Minutes interview. He goes, oh, do you talk to your kids? He goes, yeah, I do all the time. And then the guy goes, well, what do you ask them? He goes, help me.

You're asking your kids for help? Yeah, it's odd. That's odd. That's really odd. Yeah, I don't know exactly what... I'm sorry. You don't say I'm sorry. Because either way he failed them, either way.

Yeah. The kids were failed. It's devastating, yeah. And they had just his reaction to it all, like you said, is there is someone I follow on TikTok. It's been a one-year anniversary. He does like a fox rescue. They do like save a fox. Have you seen this on TikTok?

They have like a fox rescue and he's out there on the open with the foxes and he has a, I think she's four now. And he lost his wife, Michaela, who was like a big fox rescuer. and she she yeah she took her own life last year and he's like and you can tell a year later like he's still and he cuts a lot because he's trying to like obviously not cry but you know just the

he found her right so he just talks about like that's all he thinks of and it haunts him and he's like you know I see a beautiful picture but it turns into that image he's kind of doing it a POV from someone who's like a survivor and what you leave behind and stuff so I saw all the comments be like thank you for this like I won't do this to my family he's basically like I didn't want to be a single dad I wanted her here. I loved her so much.

I don't want these foxes relying on me, but I have to be here. He's like, if I can show up, so can you kind of like trying to motivate people to stay here because it's like not easy and all this stuff like that. But you could just tell like how shaken he was, right? He sees his wife in that state and that's how he'll always like remember her is what he's saying. He's like, I can't shake it. And just, you know, you could just tell.

Like just him holding back. He had to like cut a bunch of times and stuff like that. You just feel it in his voice, just this unshaken thing a year later. So it's like when you watch someone like that versus something. someone like this who not only lost, almost lost their wife, but also their children. Like it's, yeah, I mean, something is up. And obviously everyone's seeing it. And yeah, I'm glad.

I'm glad you knew a lot about it. And you too. I, you know, I don't, I can't really read these things because it's like even hearing about it. It's just like, God, I can't even, when you're even saying, he's taking the things off the kids. I just, ooh, it's a lot. But I think it's important people talk about it because obviously it's changing the way

this trial is being looked at and exposing people that could be covered by another wise small town corruption so um anyways and thank you guys leave your wife just leave just leave just leave your wife oh my god and your kids will be so much better off you'll be better off everyone's happier everyone just go their separate way like it's i don't know i don't know what is happening and and hang on and um and just you guys hold on if you are you know struggling there is hotlines when i was at penn state it was really cool that there was they offer free peer to peer counseling. So it's called, I think, like, her clinic there. There was another one called like Cal Clinic there. And yeah, it's completely free. You can just talk to someone because

people always ask me, like, you know, how do you get out of depression or change your life? And it's like, the first step is really just like talking to someone. Obviously, a therapist is great. They're expensive. Medical professionals are expensive. But even if you talk to a peer, I always say that I like walked into like a church. I'm not religious. I didn't talk to a priest, but there was just someone working at that church. And they just like listen to me. And they're like, why don't you try this? Why don't you call this number? All this stuff like that. Like, sometimes you just need, and they just sat and listened to me, sometimes you just need someone to listen to you. So reach out, there's hotlines, we'll put him here, we'll put them down below.

Because obviously, Michaela's story too with the Fox Rescue. Like, it really, that really, I could just see the pain and then his daughter and all this, it's hard. And he's like, obviously my daughter doesn't know, but like one day she will and I'm scared to, you know, I hope she doesn't find out through like AI or something, you know. So just, you know, ask for help. Someone wants to listen and someone cares and you matter. And anyways, that is our, thank you guys for giving suggestions for hot topics every time my sister comes on. We always, it's always all over the place, but we appreciate you guys with the guidance. The number one, of course, hot topic was my sister's love and I love that people are so supportive.

I love that you're happy. I love that. And thank you for sharing that with us and everybody very. Thank you. All the comments. So supportive. And everyone. Thank you.

I was just going to say everybody is. Everyone's been so supportive. And they all said if she's comfortable, if she wants, like we'd love to hear. You know, everyone's very that. So you're, I think, you know, people just being open with themselves and their stories. Does you inspire so many other people? And I'm very proud. I've never been proud of you.

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