Just Trish - Trisha's Viral NPC TikTok & Ariana Grande Drama

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

It's the beginning of a new era! On the premiere episode of 'JUST TRISH', Trisha reacts to going viral and being interviewed after taking part in the TikTok NPC trend. Plus, Trish reveals why Kourtney Kardashian gave her a panic attack, and shares her hot take on Ariana Grande's divorce drama.  Have you ever wondered how a podcast is named, or why your favorite celebrities break up? This episode of Just Trish will ease your curiosity. With my husband Moses, my manager, and my loyal friend Oscar at my side, we peel back the layers on the process of naming this podcast, from debating over several options to settling on Just Trish. We even spill the beans on our first meeting at Joey Graceffa's Christmas party. Trust me, it's a story you don’t want to miss! Did you know that even superstars have insecurities about dating? Yes, you heard that right! We share our thoughts on the recent trend of superstar women dating non-famous men and the unique challenges it brings. Plus, we discuss some shocking celebrity breakups, including Ariana Grande and Dalton Gomez, and Sofia Vergara and Joe Manganiello. We also analyze the double standards surrounding weight and expectations in relationships, a topic that's often ignored but extremely important. Finally, we dive headfirst into the world of body positivity and its representation, or the lack thereof, in music videos. From analyzing how preferences can become fetishes to our personal weight loss stories, we leave no stone unturned. We also talk about the Kardashian drama and how power dynamics can lead to betrayals and controversies. By the end of this episode, you'll walk away with a fresh perspective on body image, celebrity relationships, and much more. So, buckle up for an enlightening ride on Just Trish. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, here we go. First episode of my solo, not so solo podcast, Just Trish. It's just me. That's it. I don't know. I don't know what it is. I've tried to have co-hosts. Maybe I'm the problem. Maybe I'm the drama. I don't know. But it's just Trish. It's just me. Except this time I do have some friends and some help because Lord knows I cannot do this setup by myself, nor can I converse with myself. But hey, welcome to the Just Trish podcast. Just Trish. Had a couple different names. We had Just Trish, Only Trish. My husband thought Trish has a podcast, Trish has a talk show. I wanted Just Trish. I wanted to be like Wendy, Ellen, like, you know, and I had a manager. I have a manager.

I don't know. I've had a bunch of managers or whatever but I had one that was like no Trisha like you're not iconic enough to be Trisha I was like oh damn okay one day we'll manifest that so I know it's a podcast so it's just Trish but hey if you want to put me in syndication Trish would be great I love Wendy Williams I wanted to be her when they wanted like a replacement when she announced she was retiring um didn't even get offered so I'm just manifesting it with my big chair designed by my husband, Moses, who is our lighting, sound, sets, props technician over there. He does have a microphone, not a camera, but maybe one day once we get some production value up, once we actually make money on a podcast and not lose money. And then we have my co-host, oh my god this has been a long time coming I am a huge Trish

stan for a decade now yeah we've been together a long time yeah so to be able to sit here next to you in that pink chair is truly the honor of my life I'm honored I have loved you for so long I have wanted to work with you for so many things like even when

I've had like successful podcasts I'm like let's get Oscar in here I just love you I just think you for so long. I have wanted to work with you for so many things. Like even when I've had like successful podcasts, I'm like, let's get Oscar in here. I just love you. I just think you're so professional. We met so long ago, but I feel like really iconic. Like we've done interviews and stuff like that. And you always like interview and you're just so good. You're just so on it. You're so you produce so much quality content for YouTubers and stuff. And I'm like, I want to work with you one day. And here we are. It's been a dream come true. The first time I met you, I literally remember Joey groseffa's christmas party yeah i think you were post you were post a breakup of some kind and you were like you were a little sad that that year yeah and i remember you were sitting alone at the dining room table like eating and then i came and i was like oh my

god it's trisha story of my life it's every year 2016 2017 2018 and then i walked over and you like instantly recognized me from being an intern in Joey's friend's YouTube channel Strawberry 17 okay I didn't know if we're gonna get the shout out that's where I first saw you and I lived she had so many interns yeah that was iconic she had this big house production over there you guys were like constantly working and I was like that's amazing and you always stuck out you always stuck out to me I loved all the interns but I like you you stuck out like I remembered you know i remembered you i mean the i meant the world at that christmas party that was a gift that christmas that one yeah that truly was a gift and ever since then every every time

we've interacted it's been like the highlight the highlight of my year so this is truly i'm so excited for this era well you're like the brains of yes eras we're gonna do a taylor swift episode you were like oh we need to taylor swift and you're like we're in just it was eras like what's an era and then i was like oh eras that's like a whole thing We're going to do a Taylor Swift episode. You were like, oh, we need to do Taylor Swift. And you're like, we're going to dress up as eras. I was like, what's an era? And then I was like, oh, eras. That's like a whole thing now. They say that. Like, I'm in my skinny era. I'm in my mommy era.

I just learned that from RuPaul's this year. And what's crazy, too, is that I feel like our eras usually mirror each other. Like, we got into our serious relationships at the same time. Yeah. We've had our ups and downs with weight at the same time. But you, like, no no i've never had a skinny era you've always you had your skinny era no when yes i've just slowly gradually gained weight every year i've never had skinny no you know what year i will have the i'm gonna literally

in the edit pull up like the photos of the skinny maybe like when you came to my tour when they like i think maybe i was i was like maybe 180 but i definitely wasn't no that was pretty skinny okay what we said we thought about skinny what was it gonna be skinny legends only or something podcast we thought about that name which I didn't know if it was controversial. Skinny legend is like ironic right it's not like a real like you're not skinny. It's like a state of mind is how I see it like yeah like my weight fluctuates but as long as I like have that skinny I wear a big t-shirt and it's like I'm skinny. Right exactly I went up a size I'm 1x now instead of XL and I feel so skinny in this dress I was like wow oh my god so tiny. Yeah, exactly. I went up a size. I'm 1X now instead of XL and I feel so skinny in this dress. I was like, wow, oh my God, so tiny.

Yeah, literally skinny legend is the state of mind. Yeah, skinny legend state of mind. I love it. Just Trish is like the perfect podcast name, I think. And I have your slogan for you. I guess, let's hear it.

This is why you're so smart. Like you had notes. You had stuff ready to go. Like there's one thing people, there's a lot of things people can say about me, but it's like I'm not organized. I'm messy. Like, you know what I mean?

I like having structure. I just don't know how to do it. So yeah, let's hear the slogan it's not personal it's just trish i love it we'll give the hot takes we'll spill the tea we're doing hot takes but we don't you know it's just it's just trish it's just right it's not personal it's not personal it's just trish i like it because here's the thing i feel like i'm in a new like drama free era well that's why you're here i feel like you bring a little more sass you know what I mean like you definitely have like I feel like I can like look at everything and like try and find like something positive in it and be like you know what I can see

this side of it and whatever because it's like a whole new me I feel like I did drama oh this might be drama I don't know because do you consider Wendy Williams drama I think she was just Wendy like similar to you she was giving her a sometimes her opinions were brutally honest but it was never like malicious for the most part. And she just was trying to like entertain people and make people laugh. She had no filter. Yeah. Which is great. I used to have no filter too. And it's just like, nowadays you have to have that filter. I don't know if that's good or bad. I think it's good to be like conscientious of what you're saying and to, you know, think before you speak sometimes, but it's also good. sometimes people just need to hear the full truth and nothing but

the truth and need that brutal honesty. Yeah. Yeah. I think so too. I think she had a way of doing – I love Wendy. Can we get her on the podcast? She should be an easy get. Yes.

Really? No. But I'll try. I feel like you would have the connection to it. Because didn't she have a – she was going to have a podcast. She had a Spotify deal but I don't think it ever – What what is up with spotify okay fun fact i had like two meetings with spotify i was supposed to have a podcast oh this is like tea we'll start the tea right away for literally since last september since literally i gave birth like me and dr drew have been talking

about doing a podcast and i was like and i love dr drew so much i actually met him way before like right at the beginning of of quarantine Like I think it was like our second date or whatever, our second like day knowing each other. And I knew him on the Adam Carolla show and we did like this whole like answering relationship thing. So I wanted to like answer mental health questions because I'm mentally ill. He's a professional. And I thought like, oh my God, what a great podcast. So we had deals with Spotify and they were like interested. And then they just like ghosted us out of nowhere. Like it was like a big thing. And I don't even care about getting a million dollar deal. Like I don't care. I'm not Meghan Mark'm not Megan Markle but I thought like I'll be so cool to be with Spotify and then

they ghosted us and then they dropped Megan Markle they dropped Wendy like what's going on they have no money is that the tea I think I think that industry is changing a lot because I know like people that work there and there was like a lot of layoffs like a couple months ago there was pretty big layoffs their studios were amazing I went to do the Julia Fox podcast and I was like I was in downtown LA where they have the studios and it's like headquarters it's like a marvel like university like it's so big have you been there no oh it was such a vibe i was like okay i see you there i saved my little name tag that day i was just like this is the vibe i want to be here and then they dropped the ball and i was just like dang i was so excited it still might happen

he's just he has like 10 podcasts so you know i don't know what's gonna happen i know he's busy but um maybe we'll get him on as a guest because I feel like I have so much to unpack with all the trauma. You know, my year of pregnancy was the best year because I like didn't interact with anybody and it was so peaceful. I was so happy. I was so – everyone's like, you're glowing. It's great.

And the minute I start interacting with people again, it's like literally just – I don't know. I think it's me. I truly think it's me, which is why I need Dr. Drew's professional opinion. But you can give me your non-professional opinion but like I want to know what it is about me that I attract this like I really feel like I've done my karma my bad karma I've served my bad karma like what is it now that I'm attracting this see I think that you're just so welcoming and open that sometimes it can go either way right like you can attract like the good people and

like the stable people but because you are just like so open arms like once you start like having conversations with people you just kind of invite anyone in and a lot of people in LA are just kind of terrible so I think that's kind of it because even like when I first met you like I could have been terrible you know but you were so sweet like right off the bat yeah that's true I guess yeah I feel like I'm a good judge but then shit happens and i'm just like oh my god i don't know i just feel like even in my hater era i like never really like i don't know i just see even in your hater era though you were always very sweet i feel like that's what people don't truly get about you is that like behind the scenes like you are very caring and nurturing and you go like above and beyond for like people that you work

with that is like the true the true, like, tea. That's the tea. I agree with that. Yeah. So even in your hater era, you were, like, an undercover sweetie. Oh, I know. I feel like the hater era was, like, especially the hater era. It's, like, me by myself in my, like, little apartment.

Like, that's the kitchen floor era, right? Like, where I, like, literally had nothing going on, like, on drugs, like, miserable. Like, I was, like, a secret hater, like, or online. I just, like, I wanted to. But I never, like, I don't know. Like, in my, it's hard to say. Like, I was a hater, but I wasn't like a mean girl. Do you know what I mean? Like the people who like attack people's like looks or we or, you know, OnlyFans or whatever. Like I just feel like I never was like that. Like I never was like,

oh, you have a big nose or you're fat or whatever. I don't know. Yeah. You know what I mean? I just don't get the mentality. Anyways, that's a whole other thing. But I can't keep friendships. I can't keep a podcast. My longest running podcast was 10 months. It was The Dish with Trish and I got fired from podcast one. They literally were like, we can't afford to keep you on anymore. And I paid for everything. Like the set was me. The editing was me. I was like, wait, how can you not afford to like put me on? I don't know. It was very weird. And then I was getting brand – not brand deals, but ad read money for a while. And then they just took everything off podcast one. I'm like, dang. So I got fired from that podcast.

It was 10 months. I'm trying to make this last a year. I believe in us. And you know what? You can't keep a good Trish down. You really can't. You do bounce back. And that's kind of the iconic thing about you is that you do have like all these eras

because like the second one thing ends, like what's next? I know. I really am what's next, you know? And I thought, oh, I'll just take another year, get pregnant and just like isolate again. But you know, it's getting hard. It's hard to get pregnant again. So I'm like, let me just do another podcast. We have those like this really cool studio space. And my husband like designs furniture sets and everything like that. Moses over there, he designs everything. So it's like great. You know, Dish With Trish was like a painted wall on a couch and I was literally the one pushing the audio and stuff like that. I was

doing it all myself. It was iconic, but it was just like so hard to do. So this is fun. I just can just show up and manifest it. I really would love a TV show. I would love it. I know it's like old school and it doesn't pay a lot and doesn't get as much views, but I like a TV show. We're manifesting. We're manifesting. I will say though, entering Trish Studios here today was truly an experience. The portraits of you on the walls, the green room, the lighting like it's green room yeah the snacks don't crappy crappy yes that's complex my mom i was like oh my god do they have like pas like what is going on this is full-blown like production we need interns like i've never had i've never had assistants or interns i i don't know i kind of like it like that though i like just

kind of having like the people that i know here you know know, Moses, my mom. But it's an experience. So don't sell Trish Studios short. Like Spotify can never have like the pregnancy portraits of Trisha Paytas on the walls. So yeah, this is like how you felt about going to Spotify with Miss Julia Fox. Like this is how, that's how I feel. Okay. I love it. Yeah. So don't sell yourself short.

Perfect. Yeah. We produced all this ourselves. Everything. It looks, I'm sure it looks amazing. I'm sure it looks great. But I'm super excited. I have this microphone because I, again, like I just, I know Wendy didn't even have a microphone.

I just like love the idea of a microphone. If you were like, I'm kind of old and I remember when I stayed home from school, they would have like Sally, Jesse, Raphael, Ricky, like I loved Ricky. Like I loved Ricky. Like, okay, I would love to be Wendy because she's fabulous. But I think I'm more of a Ricky, like for sure. I just like loved her. They would have like controversial guests on the show, but I loved when they would hold

microphones. Like, I just thought that was so cool. Oprah. Love it. Is Oprah still around? She's still around, but she's, like, in her compound. In her compound era. Mm-hmm.

Is that she just doesn't leave or what? No. She just minds her business. Yeah. Like, she really does. Doesn't film. She'll do, like, random, like, one-offs of, like, a really big, like, she did, like, the Meghan Markle Prince Harry thing.

But other than that, like, I think she's in, like, like montecito and she just kind of like my she has like compounds across like the world that's pretty wild maybe we can go over i would love to have oprah does she do interviews i don't think i don't think because i have big chairs we have another chair like this being made i have big chairs and i feel like she would love it and make her look small you know because she used to have the skinny cameras do you remember that yeah she's got skinny cameras my mom would tell me this and i thought oh used to have the skinny cameras. Do you remember that? Yeah. She used to have skinny cameras. My mom would tell me this and I thought, oh my God, I want skinny cameras. This is definitely not a skinny camera.

By the way, can I just say that I guess I'm fat. I've gained weight. Like I hate these comments. Like Trisha got so fat. She got so big. Yes, I'm fat. Just like don't comment that on every single thing. Like I get it.

Like it just spams my comments with it. But I have a chair to make me look smaller. And so hopefully it's doing that effect. How's the angle? My husband was going to do an over the shoulder angle. He's like, oh, maybe you don't want to have your – which is good. I appreciate the honesty now early on in our relationship. I would have said no, which that is one of our hot topics. So basically every week we're going to do like little hot takes. I feel like I stayed out of the job. I don't like to comment on people's lies, but I feel like I can add positive commentary. Every podcast is like commentary and they want to see a downfall for

everyone. I'm here to like, you know, look at the downfall and see where we can see positives as someone who's been rock bottom multiple times I feel like I can like appreciate see the situation see where the positive income because it's like there's always a way out is what I'm like think I think like there's always a way out of anything I feel like I should be a publicist at this point like a PR person I don't know like I mean I'm not really great at getting myself out of situations but I can like see where it could like flip you have to kind of see the whole story like again doing bad things and making bad choices doesn't make you a bad person or whatever. But I'm, by the way, not manifesting being canceled. I don't think I'm canceled. I don't think I'm cursed either. Someone told me like, oh my God, the Trisha curse. Like I went on Megan Trainor's

podcast and then, you know, she had like a little cancellation over something she said. And then obviously my last one is, so everyone's like, oh, it's the curse of Trisha, whatever she's on. It's awful. And I don't believe I'm cursed. I don't. And I'm manifesting that I'm not cursed. I'm manifesting the comeback. I'm manifesting my Wendy era. Anyways, we're back to – what should we call it? Hot takes? I feel like we should call it hot topics.

I think hot takes is good because here's the thing. I think you can be definitely positive and, you know, give your Trish take. But I'm here to be like a little bit more realistic. Like I can't really be canceled because I don't do anything. Like I'm just a person who works. Just wait. Just wait. They'll be like, don't work with you.

You know, I get that. Like the hate I get now is just people DMing everyone I work with. So. I just like mind my own business and just work a regular job. I'm just like a regular old gay guy. Right. So I think that's. You're not regular.

So I think I offer that perspective. And like I'm in the industry. So I kind of like know the behind the scenes of a lot of stuff. So you're always on the pulse. Yeah, I'm here to be like a little bit more realistic. And it might not be the popular opinion at the time. But I'm usually on the right side of history. Herstory, I will say.

I love it. Wait, what's herstory? It's like history. But yeah, yeah. Like for mothers. I love it. Because I've heard that before and I didn't know what it was. I absolutely love it.

I mean, as long as you never like sent my like naked images to make fun of me, I think we're good. I – you can count on me to never do that. You know, sometimes I get blindsided. I'm like, oh my God, I didn't know. I at least have a good moral compass too, I would say. Yeah. We love that.

Like just for like the barometer of morality. Like I was always on Team Taylor even when she was getting canceled and I knew I was on the right side of history. Taylor got canceled? Very much. Yeah. Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift? of history. Taylor got canceled? Very much. Yeah. Taylor Swift? Reputation era.

Went like Kanye with Kim Kardashian, like the snake. Oh. Wait, what? The Taylor Swift episode is going to be like a Streamy Award winning. Like I'm saying that right now.

Can you get us into the Streamys? I think that's also kind of easy. I've never been invited to the Streamys. I've been there a few times. I feel like it was pretty easy. I went once with the vlog squad, but I was, but I've always just been invited by association. Like I've never been, they have a food category I've been there a few times. I feel like it was pretty easy. I went once with the vlog squad, but I was, but I've always just been invited by association.

Like I've never been, they have a food category and I was like, how have I not? No, the Trish Aris tour episode is going to get us there. Okay. It's going to get us like a time. I need to know about this because why would Taylor be canceled for Kanye? Oh my God. It was a whole, I'm going to save it for the Taylor episode, but I can't believe you don't know about that.

No, she seems unproblematic. That was her street. No, she was canceled like hardcore. Like she had to go into hiding. What? Yes. Can we get Taylor Swift on this podcast? Yeah.

I have so many questions for her. I have so many questions because I know nothing about her at all. But like everyone's obsessed with her right now. I'm going to give you like the Swifty history lesson for sure. I love it. Yeah, I need to know all of it. All right. So this is Hot Takes.

Do we have a little song like Hot Takes? I actually do love that. Okay. I got the Hot Takes. Dee-dee-dee-dee. I got the Hot Takes. We do need you in the studio to record the Hot Takes theme song. Okay.

I'll record my own theme song too. I'll do it all. I didn't know what my theme song like. Dee-dee-dee-dee-dee. That's Wendy, but you know, I'll do something else. Well, I think the timing for this podcast is kind of iconic because, I mean, not only is it Barbie. Yes. Barbenheimer.

Yeah, Barbenheimer. Which is our look. We never even explained our look. So Barbenheimer looks today. Yeah, this is the vibe. Are you always dressed like Oppenheimer? Certainly not. I love it.

I do nothing about it. So I'm just like, you look great. I literally, like, had to look up, like, I'm not an Oppenheimer girly. I'm like, one ticket for Barbie, please. That's right. You said your boyfriend. But I was like, I'm going to Oppenheimer girly I'm like one ticket for Barbie please that's right you said your boyfriend but I was like I'm gonna get in the spirit

of the Barbenheimer spirit and give it a whirl but like on the reg this is not gonna it's not your thing you're more of the Barbie I'm definitely more Barbie coated

I feel like I'm gonna be Barbie every week so you're welcome to join the Barbie theme or you can just come in a different theme for each whatever comes out each week

I don't know you know what I mean like you're so on it me I'm just like I'm just gonna wear pink all the time yeah i think the biggest thing is all of a sudden at the beginning of the week there was a ton of breakup news that came out of kind of like nowhere are we in a retrograde i feel like everyone always like we're in mercury retrograde i honestly don't even think we are and that's like the scary thing oh is that all of a sudden all this happened at the same time and it's like what i think it's summer right do people break up in the summertime or they break up that's true single girls it's like a single girl summer yeah kind of thing so who broke up and why so the biggest breakup news

so far was ariana grande and her husband dalton gomez so they were married what yes they were so low-key they were super low-key super private. He's like a real estate agent. So not even like a guy in the industry. But they were married for two years. Like they were like a quarantine couple, too. But once things opened up, it turned out that he wasn't like super comfortable with her being a megastar, like being Ariana Grande. Because he was so used to things being like closed off. But all of a sudden, TMZ reported that he wasn't comfortable with like having security or having everything be a big deal like when she would go out so oh yeah that's the real reason

like who came up with that where to come that's the that's the reporting i feel like tmz does not have the good reporting though we believe them i honestly do believe this because this is a trend right now of like non or non-famous men like dating these like superstar women and everything they're closed off at first but then once they like open up and have a life and like get back to their careers all of a sudden they're not like super comfortable with like their level of fame because we just saw this with taylor swift and joe alwyn who's joe alwyn again exactly who is joe alwyn okay so they're they're just with these regular guys yes these regular these superstar beauties and they're the super low

key effort like quarantine you know everyone was super low-key to themselves but as they like get back to work ariana had wicked taylor went on like had a big album and don't they love that aren't they like wow damn superstar they should they should but everyone's on their side or not on their side so everyone's on ariana's side and taylor's side obviously because it's like why would you get into relationship with a woman who you know is super famous and then all of a sudden change your mind and it's like you don't understand why they're living this lifestyle you knew what you were getting into when you went into it did you expect them to give up their careers just to like be your wife maybe they don't realize like how famous they are do you know what i mean like i feel like like sometimes you like date someone

and you're like oh yeah they're on tv or whatever but then you like go out and you don't realize like the pandemonium you know what i mean like m Like Moses and I, when we go out, pandemonium. Moses, I think we're in the same category as an Ariana and what was his name? Dalton. Dalton. The Dalton. You're the handsome real estate and you're the handsome architect when I met you. And you did build all this.

Anyways, what's it like dating a superstar famous person outside? I actually have no idea how famous you are. Are you being serious? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Like when we went out the first time, because again, we were in the pandemic, just home, just us. Right. person i actually have no idea how famous you are are you being serious yeah oh my gosh like when we went out the first time because again we were in the pandemic just home just us right and suddenly we went out and everyone wants to take a picture and talk to you and i was just like shocked you

didn't know so what did it turn you off really oh i hate this to me i mean it brought me joy i saw how happy people were to see you so i was like oh wow this is nice like you were because you're always nice to them. Yeah, I love, well, for the record, I literally don't think I'm Ariana, but Moses does. He will think that I'm like the most famous person in the world. And he's like, so serious. You are. He's so serious about it. He'll literally be like, during the Brad Pitt era, where I love all this era thing. But when I was like marrying the cardboard cutout Brad Pitt, like, I really thought in my heart of hearts, and I mean this with my whole body that like, Brad Pitt would see me and be like, oh, like maybe I should date her. Maybe

I should call and ask her out and date her. And I was like so serious about it. And like no one else would be like, okay, you're delusional, whatever. And Moses was like, I think he, I said, I love Brad Pitt. And he's like, I think he would love you too. Like he's so serious. Like he really thinks that like if I was like in the vicinity of Brad Pitt, like he might actually want to like, or Adam Sandler or something, you know what I mean? And it's like, he's been so hyped for me. Like he thinks that I'm'm like this but I feel with the Ariana and Dalton thing I think like there is a thing that you may not realize right like you understand okay like okay maybe like okay they're kind of famous or whatever but you don't realize the gravity where

you need security where you need that so I don't know if I would like put the blame on them or do people put the blame on them I think well I for one I would put the blame on them or do people put the blame on them? I think, well, I, for one, I would put the blame on him because I mean, I get it because in theory, thinking about something and then actually living it are two very different things. Like maybe you think that you can deal with that kind of level of fame and like dating and being in a relationship with someone that famous. And then when you actually have to live it, you realize like it's too difficult.

So I do get that. Yeah. But I just think that it's something that you really have to know going into it like for someone who's a list like top tier like taylor ariana like anyone that level you have to know about it going into it there's no way to not i wonder if they're like insecure too you know what i mean like maybe they say that but it's also like maybe they're insecure i feel like you have to be like super secure like i my my taylor swift is britney like the way you feel about taylor is like how i feel about britney and i feel like it wasn to be like super secure. Like my Taylor Swift is Britney. Like the way you feel about Taylor is like how I feel about Britney. And I feel like it wasn't until like Sam came along that you're like, you know what?

He's, I mean, I know he's like an actor model on his own thing, but I feel like he's like secure and confident. You know what I mean? To like deal with it. I feel like, I don't know who those people are or anything like that, but I feel like maybe they're just like insecure about it. Cause like dating Ariana Grande, dating Taylor Swift would be like so insane. And I know just like on a very small scale, but I know that this happens with Rihanna. I know she has like a celebrity husband. What's

his? A$AP. A$AP. Right. So he's like super famous on his own. Honestly, I don't know anyone. So like it's not even my thing. It's just, but, but he did that cover with her last year where she's like leading him and he's holding the baby and everyone came for him and was like, oh my gosh, like what a, like what not a man, like he's being led by his girlfriend. Like he's taking the backseat. What happened to masculinity and all stuff like that like people really come for men when they're with someone that's like a woman that like makes money too or has like power has fame all this stuff like that and it's it's such an interesting like double standard because if it's like a woman with a guy it's like you're praised for it and they're like oh my gosh like

but when it's a guy with a girl it's like it's really interesting how they maybe just are insecure like they're they don't feel worthy enough of that. You know what I mean? And especially from like the outside perspective. Like think of any interview they ever do. Like they're going to be asked about like Ariana or Joe's going to be asked about Taylor. Like that is kind of like the defining thing. Like you are Ariana Grande's husband.

So I do get that element as well. But again it's like it takes a certain kind of man I think to like be secure with himself. And like be able to handle that. Yeah. Knowing that you're not just that. And if someone calls you that, it's like not a big deal. Like if you go to like hotels or something and they say Mr. Paytas or something, like, you know, you have to be like secure.

Like I think that's like ultimate security, right? Because only an insecure guy would be like, oh my God, how dare you call me that? You know what I mean? Like I just feel like that's such a weird, toxic thing. Like our daughter's name is hyphenated even though we're married. We have like Paytas Hackman. We talked about changing our names to that because I just think it's like such an old school way of thinking of being like oh like you know I don't know but I think ultimately it does

come from that I'm sure I don't know I never hear anything about them so I don't know if anyone like came for him or anything to me I would think they want that they want that security for me I always wanted to date famous guys I was like I only want to date famous guys and people with followers but it wasn't until I met Moses that I was like this is like such a better lifestyle because you just feel supported you feel like I don't know sometimes also too when there's two you know my personality is a lot it's like come down a lot but when you have two people that are just like a lot together it can be like too toxic or whatever so I feel like having a regular regular guy it's not a bad thing but like someone that's not a celebrity it just feels like more secure you feel like more humbled you know

especially for Ariana who has like a really and i guess taylor too like their past relationships were like with other like actors or artists or whatever like ariana had pete davidson like and she dated like rappers and stuff beforehand so everything was so like public yeah and she and she's like such a hopeless romantic too like she is always like in a relationship she's that kind of girl and i think she probably like really got so comfortable with having you know someone who's more private low-key they barely had any photos together like she would instagram him sometimes you know she kept it private yeah do you think maybe doing the wicked movie because she's over in england was he with

her do you know so he that's when that was kind of like the breaking point is what is being reported like when she moved to london to shoot wicked it was like he couldn't handle it anymore so it turns out they actually were separated since january and like i guess they were surprised it took so long people to find out what they why is that surprising she was because i guess her her stands are like so like on it like they have right they see yeah so they know like they can usually tell and stuff but how people found out is she went to wimbledon and she didn't have her ring on and then people and then that's when people started maybe she just got fat fingers because when mine got fat i just didn't wear mine everyone's like oh my god you don't have it i was like no my they don't literally fit my fingers maybe she gained some

weight well then she confirmed it they confirmed everything yeah but it's funny yeah i blame him i put adult in because honestly if it was the wicked thing that sent him off i mean like not to i'm not blaming him i don't know him again this was just like my opinion but i feel like yeah if he did the wicked thing this is a huge movie everyone's like obsessed with it like getting all the clips from it's been her dream like it's been ariana's dream like she's such a wicked stan yeah i don't follow ariana like that but i do know that because i saw her like zach sang show and stuff like that and she would talk about like i would do anything i'd pay to be on it and like so maybe it's just insecure like she's like gonna i don't know the funniest part about the whole thing though is she went to uh one of them with her

wicked co-star like jonathan bailey and people thought that she was dating jonathan bailey who is gay the guy from is he out yes he's out but i do think ariana loves the lgbt so i'm not like shocked to see her wanting to hang out with like a gay guy because she knows she's like no that is okay so you're not okay I was just thinking like oh could they be dating no I'm pretty like I think she just loves gay guys I really do think so same I really I wish the whole world was just gay men it would be so fun it would just be so amazing even the ones I mean I've had my own drama with gay men in my life and stuff like that there's like friends and stuff like that but they're just like at the end of the day, they're just so fun. And they just get it.

They get everything. They get the man side. They get the girl side. Like they get everything. I feel like with like straight men, they don't really get the girl side. I feel like straight women, they're – I mean just had – gay men are just the perfect specimen. For the most part, yeah. I never met a gay and I'm like –

That's – okay. Yeah. I never have. You know what I mean even the ones I'm like cringe ick whatever

I still love yeah can't say that about a lot of straight men that's true that's true what's better than a well marbled ribeye

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without even leaving the kiddie pool whatever groceries your summer calls for Well, another high-profile couple also broke up literally the same day announced their divorce why announce it on the same day yeah why not wait i know i guess they they're like okay we might as well have yeah that's a good time yeah sofia vergara and joe manginello also got divorced after seven years that's a long time that's a long time what's their cause so this is also just like reporting but tmz again this is tmz can i tell you they texted us like when it was reported that i gave birth to the queen of england they were like texting and calling moses like all more i mean how do they even get his number they're like we're with tmz we need to know if trisha went into labor i was like how do they get our number always findsZ always finds a way, honey. I don't, they are on it. Have you worked for them?

No, but I know, I have like no people who did and like they just had to like always be on. Like they never stopped. They stage a lot of their paparazzi shoots because I did get one stage one time. Like, do you want to meet us here and talk about this? It's like an interview, but they tell you to meet them on the corner of like seeing a Monica in Fairfax. Yeah. I know they do it a lot.

And I was like, oh my God, I did it one time and it felt so weird. And I was like, okay, I don't know. I mean, I'll do it again. Yeah, why not? OK, so what was the TMZ reveal? Is it TMZ or no? It wasn't TMZ. It was another similar one of those websites.

I thought it was kind of funny because they said Joe is a big kid and he loves playing Dungeons and Dragons. And he loves wrestling and video games and superhero movies. And that lifestyle was just too different from Sophia. That's not real. That is not real. and dragons and he loves wrestling and video games and superhero movies um and that like lifestyle was just too different from sofia that's not real that is not real okay i love it i'm like that is so funny to me that like dungeons and dragons no after seven years she's like i mean no because i was gonna say okay quarantine maybe but like no they've known each other seven years no i don't think so how old are they are they in their 50s I think so they're definitely older she has like a 30 year old son and she's been married before oh my gosh but yeah seven years like that kind of scares me though that it's like terrifying yeah well I would say like 30 years you know or

like 20 years they're together and it's like and it's like always when they're older like in their 50s or 60s and I'm like who are you starting over with do you know what I mean it's so scary because like we met each other a little older he was like 42 i was like 32 when we met and it's like okay this makes sense we'll be together forever but then like what if and like you know our kids are grown up and he's like you know 68 and i'm 50 it's like what where are we gonna find people like why are we gonna leave each other not to say you can't find people at that age but when you're together for so long like we've been together three years and i'm like that's so we're gonna be together forever like yeah in like hindsight there's all these things that came out like she for her birthday he only posts he posted like a

random throwback photo and just said happy birthday like it wasn't like people look way too into it though like literally man a few words over there he would just say the same thing like what doesn't even post sometimes for me you know what i mean i don't think that like is a measurement you know what i mean but also they're older like ariana's so young so like that makes sense like young marriages like whatever they're older like that's true I get it they're hot they're hot people they can find someone but it's like at that age you just for me even now I'm like well I could die any day so it's like I don't want to die alone either you know what I mean so like we break up what I'm gonna just be single for a year and then I die and then I'm dead alone and it's like how

do you date I mean for again for them they probably have a million options but I'm just like thinking for me like seven years at that age I I'm like, oh my God, what would I do? Yeah. My options were done like when I met Moses. You know what I mean? I mean, granted, I found the best one ever. When I say that, I feel like people are like, oh my God.

No. But like I literally, when I think about all the people I dated, I mean, I never dated anyone that like liked me. There's no one out there. You know what I mean? So when you find someone you actually connect with and want to spend seven years with, you might as well just stick it out for life. You know what I mean?

Just stick it to the end like why you know like what made them actually do the divorce but i always have to think like maybe they just find someone else like especially in hollywood i think it's so easy to fall in love back to ariana is she dating not dating she was with the guy that plays fiero is he jonathan bailey's in yeah he plays fiero yeah do you know anything about wicked no you're not a musical person. I'm not a Broadway girl. No. No. You're not a Taylor Gurley. I'm not a musical person.

Oh my God. How? We have to do like reverse episodes. Oh my God. For sure. I have a Wicked costume. My last podcast we were supposed to be Glinda and Alva Buzz so if you want to throw on the Glinda one I have an extra small.

Yeah. You've never seen Wicked? No. Mm-mm. Oh my God. That's crazy. I've seen it like 30 times. I love it.

Let's see. Yeah. We have to do a whole like i would have loved to been that i mean the last person that i hated on was probably melissa mccarthy as playing ursula and little mermaid just again jealousy i just wanted to play her so bad and i've never had any acting or tv or singing lessons or anything like that but i thought i should play her and so when i saw acting i'm gonna put the little the clip of you in the music video that sad boy music video when you were when you were in the trenches oh yeah why is that performance

that's everywhere why why because everyone always feels like they're in the trenches and like going through it yeah okay love that yeah i've always seen that and i'm like what is this it's so funny and it was literally from my tiktok oh that music video costing $200,000. But man, was it iconic. I was like, it was a great one. I wasted like $10 million on music videos. Gosh, but I don't regret any of it. Like, I mean, I could have like thousands of houses, but like I loved it. I love making those music videos.

That's why we're doing this. Hopefully we'll get some ad reads. I can make some more music videos. And then another. This one is actually kind of tea. Bebe Rexha, who I feel like has been going through so much. Tea. That is tea.

That should be a tagline too. What's another tagline? That's the tea. That's the tea. Yeah. actually kind of tea bb rexa who i feel like has been going through so much that is tea that should be a tagline too what's another tagline that's the tea that's the tea yeah and i'm not just talking about my first name yeah i don't know you're better it's not personal it's just trash uh so bb rexa and her uh boyfriend of three years seemingly broke up because she shared a screenshot of their text message conversation where um he wrote to her about her weight about how she gained 35 pounds and how her face changed and bb kind of implied that that's kind of the reason why they're breaking up they broke up and then she released the text which reads the text while they were still together i think they were they probably broke

up that was probably like the last straw for her i think i think she was was was so upset over that text message that she broke up with him and then posted it. Like no contact. Do you have the conversation how it went? So she only posted his. Like it was a long message from him. Right away, I'm like, why don't you post the whole thing? You know, when people cut out like what they said. Only because I've done this too.

Like the Nikocado thing. You know what I mean? I cut out what I've said, you know, and then you just I always. But anyways, continue because he said, we love her. I never said you weren't beautiful and I've said you know and then you just I always but but anyways continue because he said we love her I never said you weren't beautiful and and I never said I didn't love you but I always said I would be honest with you and your face was changing so I told you it was that was the conversation we were having and you asked you gained 35 pounds obviously you gained weight and your face changes should I just pretend it didn't happen and that and that it's okay

but here's a thing that makes it a little bit more controversial he said i gained three pounds and you called me chubs and fat doesn't mean you don't love me so it's like at first you're like very much like oh my god like yes like you a guy can't want to you say something about you your weight period bottom line yeah he loses but then seeing that she also makes fun of him if he gains weight makes it a little complicated. I think we live in a world that's just like double standards no matter what. There will always be double standards. And I think one of the ones is like there are certain things men can't say to women that women shouldn't say to men but can get away with it.

You know what I mean? I think like bottom line men should like never, ever like call a woman fat. But like I don't think – and I'm so sensitive to weight that I don't think you should ever call someone fat either but i think it's like it is so different i think it's so different right like i feel like it's a guy saying it's like okay she called you fat and chubs and again contacts all of that like that but it's just different especially if i mean i don't know what the boyfriend or ex-boyfriend looks like but especially if he's like a ripped kind of like guy already and like if he's talking about getting three pounds which like i get it because like my weight fluctuates a lot and like if my boyfriend was

talking about getting three pounds and he still like looks like skinny and like built you know it's like it's not the same like it doesn't tell him if he gained weight yeah no i don't i wouldn't and but he talks about when he gains weight a lot of the times too but he has that body type where he always looks hot like he doesn't like i have to work out every single day just to look like the way i look which is so tragic yeah and he doesn't he like barely works out and has like abs and like muscles and it's like one of those yeah i feel like it is one of those things because if he's like you always told me to be honest with you because like seriously do you tell moses like if he tells me not to like if he can't tell me to suck in my thing and sometimes he's like i don't

even notice it but like even the arm thing he knows i'm really self-conscious about my arm like if you don't tell me then i'm like that damn like you know what i mean but we had to not to like – if he can't tell me to suck in my thing – and sometimes he's like, I don't even notice it. But like even the arm thing, he knows I'm really self-conscious about my arm. Like if you don't tell me, then I'm like, damn. Like you know what I mean? But we had to get to like a really comfortable place to be that way. But I feel like also some people aren't as like sensitive. Some people don't care to be like, oh, you've gained a few pounds and they think it's funny. Or my biggest pet peeve is when people comment on people's like eating or what they eat. Like if I have a snack before dinner, it's like, oh, we're about to eat dinner or something

like that. You know, like the whole cuties thing during love is blind where he's like oh you're gonna have two cuties like whatever the whole thing happened and people were on like his side and her side because it's like depends on sensitivity like me i'm so sensitive like oh my god like you say anything about my weight or anything like i'm so sensitive i'll like cry but if they're if they said you told me to be honest and be comfortable yeah first of all i mean i'm definitely on her side and i'll always take this side when it comes to be honest and be comfortable. Yeah. First of all, I mean, I'm definitely on her side. And I'll always take this side when it comes to, like, women and weight. And, like, I'm like, you're an asshole.

But if, like, I don't know. The way he worded it was, like, you just told me to be honest with you. Maybe. Because we had this situation, too, at the very beginning. Like, he was very blunt. Like, he was very blunt. And not necessarily about weight at all. But, like, he was very blunt.

And I was like, you just, like, can't say that stuff. You know what I mean? But he looks at it like, I'm just being honest or I'm being whatever. Right? And was that right? And I don't want to, like, speak for you. But you, like, you just like can't say that stuff, you know. But he looks at it like I'm just being honest or I'm being whatever. Right. And was that right? I don't want to speak for you. But you like when we had those conversations early on and I was like, wow, you're so like blunt.

Yeah. It's sensitivity. Like I'm Israeli and we speak a certain way. Right. Like in Israel, somebody would come to me and be like, hey, you get a few pounds with a smile. They do. Oh, he gets told all the time.

Oh, yeah. In Israel, like everyone was coming about to wait all the time everywhere were they like yeah like touch his belly and stuff like that i was just like yeah to me i'm like what like but do you you don't take offense to it you're just like whatever i don't take offense to anything because that's what i'm used to right that's just how you are so yes it's about sensitivities you just have to understand other people's sensitivities like yeah i feel like wait i complain about it all the time i complain about being fat i want to lose weight i want to go on a diet i want to

this and it's like if it doesn't if i don't follow through with it like he'll never say anything like if i'm like i've i've said before i'm going on keto i'll be on keto and i'm like i want some mac and cheese or something like that like he just knows not to say that but i don't know you know different relationships for sure that's bad is that a reason you break up with someone i don't know like especially for bb like she's posted tiktoks before because when you search bb rexa like the first thing that came up was Bebe Rexha weight and she like posted a TikTok about how like that was so triggering for her oh it is and she's talked about like the people commenting on her weight before like on Twitter and TikTok so does she have any like

EDs or anything like that I don't know I think that it's just kind of like uh just something that she's sensitive about and like I get it too because it's like that's why I've always related to you it's because like you can like yeah get it too because it's like that's why I've always related to you is because like you can like yeah you can like treat yourself and eat whatever but at the same time like we have times where we're like eating healthy

and working out and it was still like so hard to lose weight. I was just talking about this. I literally had to buy one size up this week. Shoes too. Like I don't fit into any of my shoes.

I fit into none of my dresses like nothing and it's so awful because I have been working so hard to like lose weight and I haven't lost a pound. There'll be days where I like fast, I eat chicken, I eat salad and I won't lose a pound. And it's so frustrating. And I'm just like at this point where I'm like, do I just give up? I'm not going to, but it's just like at this point I'm just like, it's so hard. And I just,

I don't know what to do. And everyone's on the Ozempic now. And then I'm like, should I just take Ozempic? Like, you know, I don't know. It's so frustrating. So I get it. And I'll always side with people who are sensitive about the weight and especially significant others talking about someone's weight i think it's like awful even like people like if they joke or whatever like oh you gain some weight gains i think it's just like the rudest thing to say to anyone yeah so i'm definitely agree like i'm definitely team bb she hasn't said anything about it like she literally posted the screenshot deleted it and that was like the last that she talked about it i think she probably was just like so upset i get it like Like we've both been there when we were both so triggered that we like do some things and then kind of think about it like, oh, Chanel.

No, I mean, I posted every conversation with everybody. I'm not like judging her for that. I'm just surprised because I, again, I don't know a lot about her, but like she's pretty famous. And I always think when like A-list people do it, you're always a little shocked. You're always like, oh my gosh, you know what I mean? But yeah, I don't know much about her either. But from what like I've seen on like Twitter and TikTok and and stuff she's very like personal and like she doesn't have a

lot of like barriers between her and like her fans and stuff so i think yeah i like that too she's just like put it all out there yeah i think that's like the real side i think that's why again i love britney because i think she just shows like all of it and the realness and can be messy and whatever it's just everyone's like especially now when like everyone is so closed off it's like refreshing to see yeah like just be like this is what's going on like f everything f this man yeah when you're so overwhelmed by it you know maybe other stuff happened you know i'm just gonna release this i mean like i get that for sure maybe we can get bb on the podcast yeah let's do it i love the one thing i remember about bb like i don't know her

songs i just remember this photo of her in the splits and she has like a thong and she's like in the splits on the bathroom floor and I just thought it was like the hottest photo ever. It was like so hot. I was like, oh my God, who is this person? I would love to have her on too. I think she's like hot. We need to get guests on. My dream guest is Donny Osmond or Naveen Andrews.

Do you know who that is? No. Oh. Who is Naveen Andrews? Oscar. He's my favorite. But now it's the strike so we can't have any actors on promoting anything. But I love him.

He was on Lost. Anyways, that's very niche. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know Donny Osmond? I do know Donny Osmond. Have you interviewed him? No. Love him.

I'm watching Claim to Fame right now. Do you watch it? No. What is that? What? How do you know Claim to Fame? Kevin Jonas and Frankie Jonas host it. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

It's like the ones where they have famous relatives. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. I'm so excited. That's our favorite show. Yeah. So there was a lot of breakups, yes, yes, yes. It's like the ones where they have like famous relatives. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. I'm so excited. That's our favorite show. Yeah. So there was a lot of breakups, but there was a reunion that also recently happened. Is this like a Real Housewives thing because I don't watch it?

It's a Kardashian moment. Oh, good. I am a Kardashian girlie. Me too. Okay, love that. We love Calabasas. Yes. So Kylie Jenner and Jordan Woods reunited.

Okay. And this is like for the first time since all the drama happened when Jordan hooked up with Tristan Thompson. Which is crazy now. So okay. I never followed the Kardashians back then. Like I only started following them when they came in their Hulu era. Era. I love it.

I think they're so bougie. I never watched Keeping Up. So I didn't know about all this. I didn't know anything like that. But Jordan was kissed by Tristan at a party. Yeah. And that's it. So Kylie and Jordan were like best friends forever since they were kids right and jordan like even lived with

kylie and would like help babysit like stormy and stuff like they were sisters oh okay like super close right so yeah tristan was at a party and jordan was there and he like kissed her and that was like all that happened i saw the red table yeah talk on this which i love so what's what's the tea with this like basically after like the whole thing came out, like Khloe, Kim, like the whole Kardashian crew, besides Kylie, was like bullying Jordyn super hard, like basically just canceling her. Okay, I didn't know about this. Yeah, it was on social media, but it was also in the show.

Khloe, even after Red Table, Khloe tweeted and added Jordyn saying that she was lying. Like she was not hearing Jordyn out at all. Kim was posting like Instagram stories taunting her. What was it? I don't know this. She was, like, lip syncing to a song about, like, a girl being, like, the other woman, basically. I forget which song it was. But it was, like, they were going in hard on Jordan.

Oh, I hate that. And she was, like, literally, like, canceled, basically. Jordan was? Yeah. Like, it was, I mean, that's why she had to go on a bad because ever the internet was so like against her because of what tristan did and he had already cheated on chloe before so i always felt bad was this did the jordan thing happen after she gave birth i yes it was like after she gave birth she was cheated on when she was nine months pregnant yeah it was like so he was she had already cheated on her publicly yeah he was already cheating and

jordan was so young like to be i think she was yeah not her fault yeah but i remember in the show like kylie they showed kylie like crying and like begging her sisters to stop bullying her because kylie obviously was so close to her and she had to like kick her out of the house oh no i am so shook because i am kardashian's but this is like the me too i love kim Wait, how do you get over that though? Like that's so awful. Yeah, I can't imagine. Because you're also in this position of power when you have, when someone has so much more followers than you and no matter what the truth is, you'll just be bullied for the rest

of your life for that. Yeah. The people will always hate you. And it's not even her fault. Like it's not even her fault. Even if that happened, right? Even if they had full on sex and they had an affair and he had a baby with her, which he like later did with someone else.

Like you can't blame her. Like know what i mean even though i guess your friends okay so you kind of know whatever but really she should also be blaming tristan and also like bullying someone over that because now she has so much grace for tristan on the show she's like you know what i forgive because it's like okay where was that grace for your friend like your actual family friend like that ew okay that's like the biggest dick oh my god i'm so sad because I love them. I can't watch them anymore. I don't think I can watch them anymore. How do you get over that?

How did you get over watching them again? See, that's the thing. I think I was so pro Kardashian that at first I was like, how could Jordan do that? Like I was one of those people. Of course. But then it took like a while to then like, especially when Jordan, I mean when Tristan kept cheating. Tristan just kept cheating over and over and over.

This man has a problem. Like he is literally the problem. And Jordan was kind of like a casualty of this man who's a serial cheater like who just can't stop i hate that yeah and it made it makes me think about chloe differently too because she doesn't say anything about tristan like she's always so nice and she can use like the baby excuse but she always like you said has so much grace for tristan but jordan like she dragged jordan through the mud. Because even if like, look, here's the thing.

Like if it was a friend of mine too and Moses and him had a affair, like, you know, I'd be pissed. I'd be so pissed. But I think like, one, you have to realize you're in this position of power. You have this money. You have this fame. So to say something publicly like that, one, looks bad on you. But also, two, like you know that person's going to get hate. I think inciting hate on someone like that.

And especially like you said, they were taunting this, inciting this. Like that's like the lowest. And I, again, I know this on a very small scale. Like when I had a little bit of power and I'm like, oh my God, this guy broke up with me. Go harass him or whatever like that. It's like literally like the most unfair, like nastiest thing you can do.

Like to anyone. I've had it on my side too, where there's someone bigger than me throwing hate my way. And it's so nasty. And the Kardashians are so famous. And the fact is that they're all in their 40s now, except maybe Khloe.

Maybe she's like whatever. But that means that this was happening how many years ago? 2019. So they were all like in their late 30s. That's what I'm saying when you're grown. Yeah, when you are 30, once you're past 30, I'm sorry, 30 is the mark. I'm sorry, maybe 25. But 30, like you are grown enough to like know not to do this. Like, and as far as I know, they're not like mentally ill or on drugs. So it's like, what, what is their excuse? Yeah, I think I mean, they're not like mentally ill or on drugs. So it's like, what is their excuse? Yeah, and I think, I mean, they are so protective of each other to that extent.

And maybe it felt more personal because Jordan was so close to like the family. But again, she was like, she's the baby sister's best friend. She's like, it's literally like a child. Yeah, so more the reason to like protect her. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, I don't. And hear her out, I think. Oh, I hate it.

Yeah, so that's why. That's like the meanest of mean girls. That's why I'm saying the mean girl mentality again. It's like there's this like there's just stuff that's just mean. It's just nasty. Like no matter what they did, she got pregnant by him. Like still, you know, you're inciting hate on this person and going to ruin their lives. Yeah, and I think and that's why she had to do Red Table Talk because that was like her

one like Jordan's one opportunity. Did she get some redemption from that? I think so. I think just getting to share her side of the story no matter what she'll never fully recover because those people are in so power and they could actually be like we could forgive them or whatever they moved on or they've matured but it's that it's that stain they'll always have it's that karma and hopefully like you know again i know this is again from experience where and on a much smaller scale like someone did me wrong so i'm like let me just like, oh my God, look at what this person did. And then like they harass these people and like ruin their lives. And it's just not, it's not cool. It's really bad

karmatic energy. And again, I know because I've collected on it. You know what I mean? It's just a stain you have to wear forever. And there are some people, I mean, maybe like two people in my life that I've like definitely was like, oh my God, they did this and this and their lives, they got harassed so much that it really like traumatized them and it's like a stain that I'll wear forever I've apologized numerous times publicly personally to them but it's just like it'll always weigh on me that's one thing that like eats at me every like constantly I try to like forgive myself as much as I can and like not think about it but it really does you know I feel bad and again I've apologized to this person I've had them on my podcast to apologize to them and stuff but it's the worst

thing you can do and I've and I've I've again I've collected that karma where it's like i've had that happen to me where someone just like came for me whether it's truth non-truth and it's like my life has had been ruined too but damn i didn't know all this okay so so now now she's back yeah so now a lot because jordan's still like a big influencer she has a lot of followers and a lot of them are like jordan do not go back to the kardashians after they try to ruin you well kylie didn't. She always stuck up for her. But people are, like, very weary of her, like, reassociating with the family. So it's, like, very dicey because, like, they obviously – Kylie stood up for her back then. And they were so close.

Like, Kylie had her own show with Jordan. And, like, their friendship was so – Wait, they did? Mm-hmm. Life with Kylie. It was my – I love Kylie. So I'm – Oh, my God.

Wait. Life with Kylie. Why wasn't it life with Kylie and Jordan it was it was like mostly Kylie but then like Jordan was like the co-star kind of thing

it's like Jess Trish and Oscar Oscar silent okay no I get it yeah yeah yeah Kylie at least is like the most independent

I think of the family she's very not associated with them on the show like I watch she's rarely in the show Kendall too she seems to not want to be I don't know associate or just like not on the brand with the other girls that uh this is the most disappointing news i've ever heard in my life like i was upset i like seriously

had an obsession with the crashes i think they're so beautiful so everything like especially chloe like i was like she was so nice i'm like wow she's sampling the situation so good she has so much grace so much patience like damn yeah it's definitely like especially looking back at it now knowing everything about tristan like really changes the dust settles and then the truth comes out what would you do if you were jordan would you go back and befriend kylie or like i don't know what i would do it's so hard it's so hard because like it's like there's one thing of just being like moving on and like whatever just like not thinking about it again but to go back into that situation, like I would say like run. But if Kylie was always like having her back and Kylie's her own person now and whatever,

she doesn't like need her sisters or the show or anything like that. I don't know. She wasn't the toxic one yet. I would say don't associate with like Khloe in any of them. Like that's so, that's so crazy. And Khloe was a mom. She had her baby. Yeah.

Shit. I love Khloe too. I love her. This makes me so sad to say. But I do think also like being a parent like instantly changes you. Like I mean again, I was like the biggest hater. And I think like once you have kids, you're just like, oh, like I would never want like my child to go through this, whatever.

And because Jordan's so much younger, she – again, I think you should just know better. Like they all had kids. I'm sorry. I don't parent shame at all because it's the worst. But I feel like if you're a parent and you're being like mean or bullying or taunting like it's just i don't know you wouldn't want that for your own that's why when i think about these stories i think about like okay like let me think as a mom you know like i wouldn't want my kids talked about like this you know what i mean and i don't know i really try to see the positive or the flip side

of this and i get that they were hurt but i just don't see any like justification for that like that's so it yeah i hate it i think they took it they just took it too far especially in retrospect oh god i don't know if i should even talk about this i want to talk about it but speaking the kardashians should i even say it elvis or should i not even talk about it well you did you just did i know but we cut it but i don't think it's bad right no but i would just wait to see if they actually use the name maybe i should put it out there because i want to put it out let me maybe not to say it i don't care because i want to just put it out there because if we have a boy it's going to be elvis anyways so all i'm saying is like so basically we're revealing now the name of our son if we have

okay i think people knew because i was talking about anyways i'm going to talk about real quick because we're talking about the courtney so courtney is having a baby boy which is great like again i always think like anyone who struggles with infertility, I love that she's in her 40s having a baby because I'm so like, oh my God, the clock. I got to have a baby. I'm 35. And I like love it. I love that they're happy, whatever.

And this is not even anything bad. I don't know why I preface it like, should I talk about this? But I guess I know what you're saying. Like, it's like if we don't have a boy or if something, whatever happens. Okay. So I saw TikTok and I don't know why as soon as they announced that they were having a boy, in my like heart, I was just like, what? I feel like, what if they take our baby name? So I feel like I'm very good at baby names. I feel like everyone loves Malibu Barbie. I've always had great baby

names. And there's two baby names I've talked about. And I found receipts. I found receipts from 10 years ago because I'm like, I have to have this just in case, you know, whatever. And again, everyone has the same name. There's a million Oscars. There's a million Moseses, which I didn't know. Apparently Moses is a very big name in Israel. But they, my God, I was like, wait, what did they like name their baby Elvis? And then I saw a TikTok. I tell you, like kid you not, I saw a TikTok where someone was like, Travis left a comment on one of Kourtney's posts like a year ago. Like if we have a son, it's going to be Elvis. And I was like, what? Like, I didn't know why I thought they would name it Elvis. I have no idea why. And then they had the baby reveal. It was a boy. And then

under there, he's like, I know what the name's going to be. So I was like, they had the baby reveal it was a boy and then under there he's like I know what the name's gonna be so I was like oh the baby's name is gonna be Elvis and then I literally I don't I don't know like I don't get stressed about anything to say I was like worrying so much about it I started worrying so much I'm like oh my god they're gonna name their baby Elvis and then like it's gonna look like I copied the Kardashians and then you know maybe they'll come for me like they came for Jordan I'm like oh my god you stole our baby name and stuff like I started panicking even today with the glam team I I was like, what? They're going to name the baby Elvis. I'm like, that was supposed to be my baby name. Like what am I going to do? And I had a like severe panic attack over this and I haven't had one in so long and I have to like meditate in the morning to try and not think about it. But I like – but ultimately my

meditation has led me to this, right? I meditate. Do you meditate by the way? No, but I should – I know you have the meditation room. I should start it. Meditation is – oh yeah. The meditation is just like the best thing in the world because like if you don't have the answers for something or you're worried about something, it just like comes to you. So my meditation brought me to this. Everyone's like, you meditated for that. But I was just like, you know what? There can be two Elvis's in the world. Actually, you know what?

Elvis Presley is the original Elvis. So if you're talking about copying a name, maybe you're like going on the Austin Butler craze or whatever because when the movie came out that's the other thing when the movie came out I was so devastated because I am very rarely what are they called it was a gatekeeping what is it called yeah I'm like I don't gatekeep much because I'm always late to trends and I'm always just like jumping on trends but when the Elvis movie came out I was like shit everyone's gonna love Elvis now that was always my thing google it Trisha Paytas Elvis I've always dressed as him I've always. Like even before it was cool. I did a little less conversation cover like 10 years ago. And like to keep Elvis is silly because he's so big, but he became so much bigger with the

movie obviously. And I was like, damn, TikTok was all Elvis. And instead of being happy like a normal person, it's like, oh cool. The thing I like is like coming, you know, whatever, like Barbies everywhere. And I love it. I was so sad. And then we found out I was pregnant and I was like, oh, if we have a boy, like we'll name it Elvis or whatever. And then the movie came out. I was like, oh no. And then same thing with Malibu. We're like, oh, Malibu Barbie. And I did not know the Barbie movie was coming out. And I was like, oh dang. So now with Courtney and Travis, I mean, I guess like, hey, honestly, like now back to meditation, back to goodness, back to positivity. I was like, you know what? I think it's beautiful. They wanted a baby. This is a son. Travis manifested Elvis.

He said, apparently in his book, he had said that they were going to name his son now Landon. They wanted a baby. This is a son. Travis manifested Elvis. He said, apparently in his book, he had said that they were going to name his son now Landon. They were going to name him Elvis because his mom loved Elvis so much. But I don't know what happened with that. I guess they didn't. So if you do have a baby name and call him Elvis, I think it's beautiful. And I think that just means I'm as cool as a Kardashian. You know what I mean? I'm as cool as Travis and Kourtney. I don't know. What do you think? Naming a baby the same, especially when it's so unique. You know what's so funny is Joey Graceffa's dogs are Storm and then Kylie

had Stormy. And then his other one is named Wolf and then she first named her son Wolf. Oh, but she did it after him, so he was the first. Yeah, so he was the first. Did he feel some type of way about it? I think he just thought it was coincidental, but it's just funny. Did theardashians watch youtubers like well i believe

it like okay i have another kardashian type which this is like i believe it first of all yes i think they watch people like everyone gets influenced by anyone i don't think it's a bad thing i had a theory that kim kardashian saw my post i don't know this this could be a big reach um and i'm a little delulu i'm the first person to admit it. Like I have delusions. I thought Brad Pitt wanted to date me at one point. So I think this may be. But who knows? Maybe not.

I also think Britney Spears might follow me because she went to Joey's two hours after I posted we were at Joey's. Oh yeah, I did see that. Okay. But Kim, recently we went to the Barbie world. Like it was like a little Barbie exhibit in Santa Monica. And I posted, well, first of all, I copied Kim. I got a knockoff Balenciaga jacket and bag. It was like a pink fuzzy coat with a pink fuzzy bag. And I posted, well, first of all, I copied Kim. I got a knockoff

Balenciaga jacket and bag. It was like a pink fuzzy coat with a pink fuzzy bag. And I was super excited to wear it there. So I had this like knockoff of a Kim outfit with the Balenciaga sunglasses. And my caption was, it's Malibu Barbie's world. We're just living in it. The next day after I wore the Kim Kardashian outfit, Kim posted with North, it's North's world and we're just living in it. And I was like, granted, this is a saying that's very popular, but I'm like, maybe she saw it. Cause she's like, oh, who's this person wearing a knockoff Blunt Yaga outfit or something like that? Maybe she saw it and was

like, oh, that's a cute caption. I love you, Kim. She can take my caption. I took her literal outfit. In reality TV news as well, a story that I think you'll be really excited about is The Golden Bachelor was revealed. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

So it's like the senior citizen version. I i'm obsessed i had my mom apply for this so we just started the bachelor i was never a bachelor person ever like never watched a season it's been on like 23 seasons or something and i never watched season we started watching it this year like randomly i think because i was doing asmr i was like you should do bachelor asmr i'm like i don't even know what the show is let me watch it and we watched it with zach which they said was the most boring season but we became obsessed we watched all of it now we're watching charity season which i love and like i'm it with Zach, which they said was the most boring season, but we became obsessed. We watched all of it. Now we're watching charity season, which I love and like I'm obsessed with it. But they were advertising the Golden Bachelor during Zach's season, which is January of this year.

And I had my mom apply for it and they never called her, which is crazy because my mom is like so gorg. She's in her golden era and she's, she might be too young. I think you had to be 65. She's 64. Oh, really? Yeah. But I feel like, okay, she's going to be 65 this year.

So if they were looking for a golden bachelorette, my mom would be perfect for it. I wanted to do that so bad. And I was so excited to see this because I think it's beautiful. I think I love that The Bachelor is doing like one where one, it's older people dating because I feel like older people are more mature too. I love that no one's going to be like a clout chaser on there. But if they are, it's kind of iconic too like if someone's like

I'm here for the followers I'll be like yes like at 65 you know what I mean I think it's all I'm excited to see the women have they shown the women yet none of the women

none of the women they only showed Gary Gary from Indiana which is weird because there's Gary Indiana the fact that he's a grandpa is like kind of sweet yeah

he's hot he's so hot like for a 71 I've never seen a 71 who looked that hot so hot he's so hot like for 71 i've never seen a 71 you don't look that hot so hot he looks he's so sweet he's a widow he just wants someone to play pickleball with hold hands like i was just like i love this and i think there are so many people like that age that are looking for love like whether they're like widowed or divorced like i said a lot of people get divorced and they're like you know my mom's been single now for like maybe 10 years or something like that but it's so hard to meet people because they're not on the dating apps.

Like the ones on the – because my mom's been on the dating apps. And the older guys on the dating apps are like scary. You know what I mean? So it's hard to meet older people. And you don't go to bars. You don't go – like it's hard to meet that. Like I would love my mom to meet someone. But where do you meet someone of quality at that age, you know?

Yeah. It's kind of like the Sofia Vergara thing. Like when you're that old, like how do you – you can't do dating. I can't even do dating apps at like a 30 because it's like everyone's crazy. You don't want to be on a dating – like, oh, wow, you're on a dating app when you're that when you're that old like how do you you can't do dating i can't even do dating apps like a 30 because it's like no everyone's crazy you don't want to be on a date you're like oh wow you're on a dating app when you're 40 like what's wrong with you even if you're 40 yourself you know what i mean it's like weird but i'm glad that to get your perspective on it because at first i was kind of like ick i was like old people like making out bachelor's guy like i just imagined it like literally like bachelor in Paradise kind of like just like messy everyone crying sloppy the like the fantasy suite and I was like oh like that's a little ick but now

hearing your perspective I'm like oh that's actually kind of sweet I think it's so romantic I think it's so like we need to see that on tv like age-appropriate relationships like yeah obviously I have a few platforms that I have hard stances on and like age gap relationships give me the ick and I try not to judge and like anymore I don't call people out if I see an age gap relationship I'm like okay like maybe it's gonna work for you I don't know I have such a I have such trauma from them so like big age gaps and like young women like 18 with like 40 you know I just think okay when you get older it's different you know like Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones are 25 years apart but they seem like the same age you know like you're like I don't know when you're older it's completely

different so I love that we're doing age appropriate relationships I love that they're not casting anyone under 65 that's what i was concerned about too i thought it was like an old guy but still like the same kind of like bachelorette girls you know like the same casting yeah i was like how old are these girls gonna be oh could you imagine that's what i literally thought was gonna happen i don't think they could do that anymore people would get the ick i mean they do have that milf manor did you see that one where they have the older women? Which wouldn't be bad

except it was their sons. Yeah. Having the sons in there was a different type of crazy. Which channel was that on? Are we allowed to say? It was like a TLC, kind of one of those.

Okay. Because I was like, this is a weird one. Yeah. I think it's like weird when they show that stuff. It's just a little like ick. Again, if it's something

you do privately, fine. But there was like Married to Millions. And do you remember that show? Yes. And there was so many of those guys with these like really young girls. And it's just like, I don't know. And again, because like you were saying about the Jordan thing. It's like when you're young, I would know when I was young, I thought it was cool.

You know, you're like, oh, I'm mature. I'm with a mature guy. You see something special in me. Like, and maybe you are attracted to that. I was attracted to older guys that, you know, I always have been. But it's like there's something ick about the older guy, that 40-year-old that's okay with dating the 21-year-old. It's like, hmm, this person is not developed. This person hasn't lived. It's like there's something ick about the older guy that a 40 year old that's okay with dating the 21 year old it's like this person is not developed this person hasn't lived

it's always giving me the ick it's a strong stance i'll always have like i'm sorry not sorry about it but if someone is i i do follow some people in age gap relationships on tiktok and i like love i always like love like the person in it but i don't know maybe i'll meet someone one day where i'm like oh it actually works for them he's so hot you can't be that hot at 71 and like not try to get it. What if you still have like a libido at 71? I don't know. Because you always hear like you have like you have like one minute once a week. You know what I mean?

Like and not that's the bad thing because I feel like especially women, they go through menopause and stuff like that. So they're just not they don't feel like as sexual. Yeah. And I was wondering like with men like the oldest I've been with I think is maybe like 68. I mean, yeah, like legitimately like 68. And I just feel like they they don't have it as like much they know yeah so it's gonna be interesting to see like that dynamic and action in the show like are they

still gonna do like the fantasy suite like does it still get to that level i'm gonna kiss everyone because they kiss everybody on the bachelor yeah and the bachelor too i was just like again not judging but like i would feel i i never kiss people like i mean mean, I guess I do, but not multiple people at once. It would be so weird. Like you're kissing someone and like two minutes later you're kissing someone else. Hygienically speaking, I don't know. And if I was like a contestant, I would kill myself. I mean, kill myself.

Because I – Because that is just like – that would be the worst thing to make out with someone and then to like walk away and then see them make out with someone else. I would – I couldn't. Yeah. And guys do go crazy. This season of the bachelorette they're actually like so it's actually so interesting to see the guys like having 25 guys rather than 25 women's because the guys are so like masculine in this also i have to say this new bachelorette the way they treat the men versus how they treat the women they make these men they literally get them razors to shave before putting on a speedo they make them wear speedos they make them get

naked what are the other things they did they there was other like degrade like really degrading things i'm like if they did this to women it would be insane what are the other ones yeah like they had them change in front of everyone in a crowd and put them in speedos and shave and then the longest kiss oh yeah they're like stage and describe why you're the best person why you're the best kisser and why And then they're like, you have to make out with her for like the longest kiss, like four and a half minutes.

And I'm just like, it kind of gave me the ick. I love The Bachelorette, but. Another like body image kind of scandal that happened this week. Troye Sivan had some controversy with his new music video because it was like very sexy for a song Rush,

which is like basically inspired by poppers. So it's about literally gay sex. Love it. Well, first of all, poppers is great for everyone. For everyone, true, true. for a song Rush which is like basically inspired by Poppers so it's about literally gay sex love that well first of all Poppers is great for everyone for everyone true

every sexuality I kind of lived for them back in the day I mean they kind of gave me a headache but I kind of lived for them I love that I love it

Poppers are legal right they are I always thought because you can go to like Mickey's like right next to Mickey's and buy them that little like shop

and I was just like this is legal this is crazy it's a little code name but yeah oh really yeah we can't say the code it's like a whole thing oh okay i love that so the song's about poppers yeah it was called rush so it's like it's about poppers but oh is it confirmed yeah pretty much yeah yeah did he get sponsored because that would be everything yeah love it

but like the music video it was very sexy it was like all like shirtless guys and stuff. But it was everyone was like a twink. It was everyone was all the guys were skinny, had abs. And it was all just like one body type. So he had some controversy because it's like if you're going to have a song that's like celebrating like, you know, gay, especially like gay sex. It's like you're also celebrating only one body type. And there's a whole thing in the gay community where it's like it's always like the skinny like musco guys that are celebrated and there's like a whole thing like no fats no fems you know so it's like that's like a whole thing on i don't know about the no fats i heard no fems before no fats it's like the whole the thing was like no fats no fems no asians and it's

like so problematic yeah and that's it was like a popular thing to put in like your you know grinder profile whatever what you're looking for the mask for masks yeah so it's like why only put one type of guy in it yeah let me hear your thoughts on it because at first before you explain all that i was like oh that's just the world we live in they're skinny girls and everything whatever but but now explaining that and because it is like okay so what is your thoughts initially on it were you like oh i don't like that yeah i especially because like and the people a lot of people who don't see a problem with it are like the skinny, like twinkie looking guys. Yeah, of course.

But it's like when you look like that, especially in the gay community, it's so like aesthetic focused, like embody focus. So it's like when you don't fit one of those molds, it's like you kind of like how you were saying earlier, like you feel like an outsider. And I was, it's like, yeah. And you have that like hater in you because it's like you don't belong in here you're supposed to be able to be celebrated and you don't feel like you belong i think also just and this may be like bad to say but even if you let's say he really just loves skinny guys that's his thing

or whatever like that like just socially to be socially aware and to like include all of your fans like just put put a bigger person in there you know kind of like um i think it was was it joe jenna's who's the one that like toothbrush the toothbrush yeah he put um she's beautiful she's like a plus size model ashley graham yeah he put her in there that was like a big deal i was like oh my gosh there's like a big woman as the love interest and her joke is that she's fat and it was like a huge thing and i i didn't even know anything about joe jenna's i was like oh good for him you know what i mean so i think just to at least cater to your audience to be like oh he put like a big guy in there yeah and he did like address the controversy and he literally said to be honest it just wasn't a thought we had we obviously weren't saying we

want one specific type of person in the video we just made the video no but obviously they did obviously they were casting hot bods and it's like in this day and age to not like have that in mind like body like representation And like acceptance. Especially like. In a song that's all. Celebrating like sex. And body positivity. And stuff. You know.

I agree with that. Especially this. Like you said. The era we're in. Or the years we're in. It's like maybe. Because I think about my music videos too. And I was like yeah.

I guess like in the past. I always had my dancers be like chiseled. And stuff like that. Because that's just like the aesthetic of a dancer. It wasn't until later on. I was like. I should include all body types. Because I'm all body types. But. Yeah. that because that's just like the aesthetic of a dancer it wasn't until later on i was like i should include all body types because i'm all body types but um yeah i think that's a bad one i think that's a bad take though his explanation of it yeah

the explanation of it really made me feel some type of way but then it's like your art and if that's your art and that's your vision like the idol show like everyone was so skinny and beautiful and that you know and so i guess like you can't have Jocelyn be fat you know what I mean I don't know and maybe it's different I guess too like I like another queer artist like Sam Smith like they have had like bigger people in their music video Charlie XCX actually said this like Sam Smith put bigger people in their video and then people were saying it was like performative so really you I get the argument that you can't win sometimes yeah but as like a bigger person like I remember this is Trish history yeah when you did thick girls and i was like thick girls are boys best yeah and i remember i was bigger

at that time too and it was like just nice to have that like to feel have like a media make you feel good about yourself right you know it's like be seen yeah because i think even if it is performative on his end like in a way like at least you're showing it you know for people to see like you know maybe maybe young kids don't know it's performative on his end, like in a way, like at least you're showing it, you know, for people to see, like, you know, maybe, maybe young kids don't know it's performative. Maybe like, oh, like there's me in that video. You know what I mean? Um, I think, I think the same way. I remember when Megan Trainor, I told her this on the podcast is all about that bass. I was like, oh, this is so cool. Or Lizzo of course now is so like, you know, body positive anthem, but it's just nice. Or Micah with big girls. You are beautiful. Like I like loved that he came out with that. And again, maybe he doesn doesn't prefer big people but like the fact that he made that anthem I was like oh

that's so great you know and I think with Troy he's so I didn't realize how big he was he started out as a YouTuber or no yeah was he a vlogger he was like a in that Tyler Oakley like era did he vlog or he did music right away he was like sit down like vlog kind of style who did he clap what did he clap with Tyler Tyler a lot yeah and like connor franta i think oh my god yeah so sorry connor franta i remember in front of me i was like where is connor franta and he did tiktok he's like i'm right here and i was like i'm so sorry i was just such a hater because connor franta was huge too like o2l was oh ricky dillon i love him too god o2l was trevi i love her too i love there are so many great ones um but i i love first of all love when a youtuber can become mainstream like

that yeah that's insane to me like especially people forget that choice started on youtube i think right it's wild but then did you hear like and does he talk about his past on youtube or i don't think so so that's like joji too so okay i didn't know joji was a youtuber i didn't know joji was a youtuber joji okay moses told me about this joji's like used to collab with like idubs that's crazy and they would do like kind of like what were the videos like kind of idubbbz i think back in the day i think he admits this right he apologized i think he made some cringy videos he was like what like he's like i mean they were the most raunchy they were the original like memesters raunchy joji too right he was the main guy he was the biggest by far everyone looked up to him and everyone came

out of there like that's why iW is who he is and and he said like joji like hates when you bring it up like now i'm bringing it up he will not be a guest on our podcast i guess but um you said he doesn't like i mean in interviews if somebody asked him in interviews no like he just says i'm not talking about it he switched he has a new life he's a musician and an amazing musician but i guess i get that too i get that too especially when you're talented because he's so talented i could get that too like you try to come up one way like especially me like i'm like okay i'm gonna be problematic and then it is i don't mind owning it because like i mean this is just my way i might just talk about whatever but i get it if you're really just trying to like distance yourself but it's actually so

crazy when i looked up some of the stuff of the joji stuff i was just like this is insane that he was just like this problem not problematic but kind of like cringy meme meme-y YouTuber that was just like, you know, kind of bro, not bro, he's not the right word. I don't know how you describe that genre of people. I consider people like Reddit genre, like the people who'd be on Reddit. It's like, right? I don't know. Don't come for me, Reddit.

But I, Joji, but he has that beautiful song now and I'm like so obsessed with him. And I was like, wow, I can't believe he was like this YouTuber. Even Charlie Puth. I feel like everyone forgets Charlie Puth too. I don't forget Charlie Puth. He did the O2L song. He's like, and I'm Ricky. Like, you know, his O2L song. No. But back to Troye Sivan, I was like, God, I remember that name kind of back in the day a little bit. But I watched The Idol and then I kind of like fell in love with him. He was my friend. I have a music producer. His name is Jeremy and I love him. And they look so much

alike. Like they act alike. They're so much alike. And I loved him on The on the idol and I didn't know it was him I like looked it up because I saw that did you watch it did you watch the idol no I know wait what how because I was going to but then my boyfriend was like you shouldn't support it and I was like why because of how like problematic it was with like the weekend and blah blah wait why what's the tea on this oh my god you didn't know did we know this no what's problematic about it with the weekend oh my god i'm in the weekend stand after this now i never knew anything about the weekend now i'm like i love him so like in summation it was basically like completely it was more from like a female perspective and like more women were involved with it and then like

the weekend came and then he basically rewrote the script to be more from a man's perspective and he got rid of like the girl the lady who like originally was like writing the script and stuff i didn't know that i knew like reshoot a lot of it because it was more like about it was more like sympathetic towards jocelyn and less sexualized why okay first of all okay well interesting okay i know absolutely nothing about the weekend like i had to literally google like a song he did and i knew the face song that i feel my face when you like that's it but he's huge i mean he like sold out like now I'm like a stan I follow him on everything and I'm like wow he like sold out more like shows that like uh than like Michael Jackson or something I thought anyways interesting because I did see the pictures of well okay you don't really watch the show but

like she I saw that they kind of went more to Jocelyn's past so was it Sam Levinson that was still the director at the time or when the female writer was happening or was the female the director I think she was in charge of it and then Abel brought in sam levinson okay abel i love it i love that you know his name can we get him on this podcast my trainer's boyfriend is actually his bodyguard so we have like we have like one degree i love it my trainer's boyfriend is his bodyguard i love it he can come and be his bodyguard i would let my friend too one of my really really good friends jeff like he like hung out with him because apparently he's doing like horror movies and some of my friend too. One of my really, really good friends, Jeff, like he like hung out with him because apparently he's doing like horror movies and some of my friend writes horror movies.

And he's like, yeah, we were hanging out with Abel. And I was like, first of all, I love the name. Like I had to find out all the background information about him. I'm like, what is he? What's his like, what's his situation? Like everything. I actually love him. But interesting.

So your boyfriend was like, don't support it because now it's not feminist. Yeah. And like there's just a whole bunch of, and like Sam Levinson, there's so much him so it's like yeah i know nothing about him we watched it before and i hated it i watched like three episodes i'm like this is disgusting like i don't know i don't know what it was like i just i couldn't it gave me like such a we watched it together but interesting people clowned on the show so much and like even when we watched it i was like oh i'm embarrassed to watch this but it was so i loved it because at the end of the day it's like i was like, ooh, I'm embarrassed to watch this. But it was so – I loved it. Because at the end of the day, it's like – I was like, I can't look at The Weeknd the same anymore.

And I was just like, but he's acting. It's a show. Like, this is – I love pop star lives. Like, that's why I think you would love it. Like, it's very Britney. It's very, like, pop star life, pop star gone wrong. Troye Sivan plays, like, a child star that, like, you know, is her, like, right-hand person. And I like everyone in it.

Like, I love Troye. I love Jenny from Blackpink. Yeah, she was great. She was great. Troye was amazing. like you know is her like right hand person like i love troy i love jenny from blackpink yeah she was great she was great so troy was amazing like i had to look up who was the actor because i was like oh there's an actor named i think his name is moses right the tall guy there's an actor named moses who's so good he's such everyone's so talented on the show like it's it's actually insane eli roth is in it who's like the first celebrity i ever met he introduced me to quentin tarantino i was like 18 he was like the nicest celebrity i love him so much he's in it um oh who's the guy um hank azaria i think it's an

israeli show because there's an israeli guy he plays haim which should have been moses as well i'm trying to manifest moses a role in hollywood you didn't do the accent right though let's hear your best haim i am speaking it right now m That's the Israeli actor. Moses is a great actor. I want him to be in a movie so bad or a TV show. When we watch this, I'm like, oh, why won't you? That's like the perfect role for you. It would have been so great. They were speaking Hebrew.

They were like Tov Meor. I was like, oh, it's like you would have been so good in it. But I love that they have Israeli representation or Jewish representation in there, I should say. It was so good. I loved it. I'm a Lily Rose Depp stan for life. I love her.

I met her years ago and she was so freaking nice and she like invited me to her birthday party and I was so self-conscious to go because I'm like, she's so beautiful and I'm like trash. Did you go?

No. Well, it's another age thing. I think she was 18 but I was like 30 and again, I'm just like so weird. Again, it's my own trauma. Like even when I was 17,

I'm just like, I don't know. It's like so weird but she was so beautiful and she has a beautiful girlfriend and I like love the whole – I just love her so much. We used to follow each other, but my Instagram got deleted. But Troy was the breakout.

Back to Troy's mom. Back to this because this is important. I love Troy's mom on that. He was so good. He's so cute. Actually, I've never heard him sing. Oh, no. I heard him sing on the show.

He sang on the show, right? Yeah. Yeah. He sang on the show. He was so good. And his acting was insane. Like I literally felt uncomfortable watching his big scene but his song is like a big tiktok song right now what is it i feel the rush addicted to you and such oh i know i don't

ever heard this one yeah i mean maybe it's just my fyb it's like every other one was like rush yeah she's pretty big so yeah i don't like that like that. I don't like it. I think being performative, okay. I think it's okay, right? To be – I think you can't win either way, right? But I think the best way to go about it is to be inclusive. And I think it's better to be called performative than to like not – Exactly.

To exclude people. So maybe you don't like a fatty, but put him in your video. You know what I mean? Maybe you don't want to have sex with him, but you can put him in the video. Especially with like gay guys. Like there are so many like hot, bigger guys. Like there's a whole thing with like you know cubs and beer and like they can be hot too you know so it's like it's just weird that should be a song like fat boys we are

hot too you know i love like right away i was thinking like that's always like fat chicks thick i always think think of that because i'm like yeah that that is kind of like it can be hot you know what i mean i hate for me i have such a stigma about fat because i've been fat my whole life and so like i'm like i hate being fat but i don't ever think that about like other people that are big and if anything i sympathize and that but there are so many people actually find it attractive like for me i'm just like i don't look at anyone else and i'm like i hate being fat but there's people like my husband or there's other people that are just like my my only fans for instance that people are obsessed like they like i love your belly i love this like it's great like they like genuinely like it I went when I was bigger like

this was like 2016 I like went on a I was like dating someone who was like a chubby chaser but I didn't know he was a chubby chaser at the time I just like like I didn't think about it that way until I saw like his past and then who we ended up getting married to like recently I was like oh my god like you were totally don't you hate the my god like you were totally look i'm also guilty of this too because i always just be like i only dated jewish men which is true it's like a fact i love jewish men like i don't know what it is i just like love them and you know whatever and people are like oh my god you can't say that's like fetishizing but it's like there's also just like a preference right like there's people who are like oh you're a chubby chaser but like you just like chubby like you just like chubby are you a chubby chaser yeah

you don't say that about a skinny person like you're i don't know what it would be but I think there's like a preference thing and I hate that like it does become like a fetish like oh you're into big girls it's like I guess I don't care I mean it's just like a preference thing but yeah it's interesting but how much weight did you lose because I feel like they don't maybe don't know like you do lose a lot of weight right yeah like at my skinniest I lost like 100 pounds wow what was your heav your heaviest? My heaviest was over 300. So you're over 300 pounds. Yeah. You went down to like 200?

I went down. Oh my God. Wait, actually it was more because I went down. My skinniest was like 155, 160. Like I was a size 30 waist, which is crazy. Yeah. You were. Yeah.

But you look so great. You look. You're not like. Now I'm like thicker and like. I don't consider you that at all. That's why I wanted to preface it because you keep saying I'm a big boy, a big boy but you're like not at all so people are gonna look at you and be like uh what and true like I've found that I just like being stronger and I like

working out and I'm like gaining like muscle and stuff so but it's also like really triggering because I haven't have like I haven't gotten new clothes like I went like getting dressed today I was like putting on my clothes thinking I was gonna like fit and I was like I couldn't even get like my shoulder in to like a shirt or like getting my shorts up I'm like it's you just gotta find the size up and let me tell

you it's the best feeling ever now that I actually have clothes that fit me because I was wearing XLs and size seven shoes I couldn't fit into my shoes I just did a collab with sugar and spice and I was so embarrassed I couldn't fit in shoes we were trying to like shove my foot in there and it was like crazy I couldn't fit into anything like XL like I ripped I literally I have video of it I can like insert it somewhere I literally ripped my dress on Monday like the butt like it was so tight and I was just like dang I felt so bad so I went to Fashion Nova not sponsored I went to Fashion Nova and like literally ordered everything a size up like 1x 2x and I feel so much better I'm like okay clothes that fit me see I need to do that my thing too is I've been holding I was like oh I'm gonna lose

weight so I don't want to get rid of all these clothes but it was like it was like I was ridiculously skinny like at that time I think yeah sometimes you like hold to that and then you feel bad if you're not that skinny. And it's not realistic. My sister, too, she was like, so. She was like 90 pounds. She was like, oh, I don't look like that anymore. I'm like, yeah, because she was miserable at the time. She didn't eat at the time.

She was depressed. So I was just like, you know, you don't want to go back to that. You're eating. You're, you know. Yeah. And I think, I mean, not to put this all on Troy, but, like, that's what it would have been. It would have been nice to see, like, bigger people. Yeah.

That's why I'm like, because there's all's all this stuff like all these connotations that go into like you know not looking like a skinny little twink you know and i get like for them too it's like an article said like uh troy should just like eat more or whatever and i get that's also body shaming too so that's not okay right but it's like being that skinny is like more accepted and more than normal so it's like it's bad either way but no one's ever like ew a skinny person and if they do it's like being that skinny is like more accepted and more the norm. So it's like it would have just been nice. It's bad either way, but no one's ever like, ew, a skinny person. And if they do, it's like rare, you know, but it's always like, ew, you're fat. Ew, it looks like you smell. Ew.

Like as a fat person, you just you get way more ridiculed. But now if he puts out a music video and the next one he's making out with a chubby guy, you're going to be like, oh, okay, you're performative. Or you're going to be like, oh, that's hot. That's a good point, honestly. I feel like now, especially his like explanation about why he didn't put like bigger guys in it. I feel like, okay, now you're like literally doing the opposite. But I think just as long as you have people in it, like you don't have to be making out with them or like, you know, be like the star of the video.

But having them be a part of it. Yeah. Well, Troye Sivan, we love you. But maybe get a fatty in there. A fattier too in there. Get a fatty in there. Maybe you and I can go in our underwear. I know.

Not that you're a fatty. I'm a fatty. He did say though like his follow up to like his last like word on everything was like there's Rush was so big

that he got a bigger budget for like his next music video. Oh I saw that. Wait what does that mean? So that wait what so he got a bigger budget because why? Because everyone

they got some Rush got so many views that like How many views does it have? I don't even know. I just the song is literally like everywhere on TikTok like gay TikTok I guess so guess so i'm not like i used to be on

gay tiktok i don't think i'm on there anymore i'm seeing way too many straight people yeah we gotta get you back on yeah well i'll google all tiktok choice of on and maybe it'll come up love him well speaking of i actually this is something that i need your input on because the whole npc trying on tiktok yeah yeah i feel like this is like it's showing up more for me now but before i feel like maybe it was more of like a straight tiktok kind of thing first of all you'll have to ask moses are you on straight tiktok because he's the one who told me about this trend and i was like why are you looking why are you seeing this trend like what are you on what's your tiktok he follows one person on tiktok me but he's seeing

this trend and i'm like oh how did this happen what's going on he's the one who actually gave me the idea to do it so please tell me how you we should get a camera on you we need another camera and we'll get budget there was a tiktok that made a compilation of people doing that and it was just interesting because there's something about it like you know sometimes you see something and you just there's something about this thing like the way the person was moving and the way they were talking and i could see her doing it. Okay. He's like, look at this trend.

I was like, okay, I'll do it. Moses does have an eye for it. I remember when I put out King Tut, the TikTok, I wanted to delete it right away because I thought it was so embarrassing. He's like, no, this is a mesmerizing. This is so good.

And my sister literally like laughed at him. She's like, oh my God, you're so weird. Like what? This was early on in our dating. And then I got like 33 million views. I was like, wow, Moses knew. He was on the pulse. He was on the pulse of what King Tut was. It was really weird. Like what? This was early on in our dating. And then it got like 33 million views. I was like, wow, Moses knew. He was on the pulse. He was on the pulse of what King Tut was.

It was really weird. Yeah, he showed it to me. What did you even say to me? You said like, you didn't say the do it. What did you say? The NPC one? Or you just showed it to me. Maybe I was like, I'm going to do this.

I think I showed it to you. And then, yeah, you were like, oh, I'll go live and do it. Like, because you haven't done live in a while. I love to hop on a trend, but especially one that's like that. Okay, I know people are like, Trish, do you know? just you know but to me everyone's like oh it's obviously sexual nature it doesn't seem sexual in nature see i think it depends on your perspective because like to me it doesn't either when i watch it i'm like kind of like met like kind of like what moses said i was like kind of mesmerized and trans it's like so soothing i love it i see a trend i want to jump on it especially this one i thought oh this, you know, this is something that's like in my wheelhouse

for sure. I love it. But then, you know, always like being a little bit of a troll, like I'm always kind of like, oh, like this would be like a funny troll. But I committed. I did two hours live on Monday. I made $500, which isn't a lot. But I do.

I do. So I mean, obviously I was like, well, I can make that like a day, but I'm doing nothing. But I think I think some of these people, they're on there for eight hours they're making like four thousand dollars like a thing which is amazing they also say like ASMR can be sexual food I mean anything can be sexual if you say so to me it's like I don't think of it like that I don't think of it as like sexual I think it is like a mesmerizing thing and it's it's exhausting first of all so like I'm glad they're getting their coin I love that people for me like to make five hundred dollars back in the day I'd have to like go to a strip club. You know, I used to work at a strip

club. I'd go in there and make $500 and you had to do like the most raunchy things ever. The fact that people can do this from like their house, I love it. I love that people make money from the internet and it can be people with no followings, people that like have no creative talent. You know, like I love all of that. Like you can make money and you can have this great living off of it. I think it's amazing. I love it. Yeah. I think it's great. I was on Fox News. What did you say? Rolling Stone. Shout out, everybody.

And I love – see, that's what I love. And I think it's like – as long as it's like harmless attention. Like I used to do things for like negative attention. And I'm like this is like pretty – it's pretty silly to me. So when I saw that it was on like news things, I kind of like – I think it's fun. I think it's funny. I was like, I'm on this article. You know what I mean?

It's kind of cool. Yeah. For something that's so like silly and kind of like – Harmless. Yeah. Cute. And it's funny too because I was like she was too good at this like I kind of was right you were so the one that really uh like took me out was like the chili pepper one oh yeah and I was like too hot for me and like I was my my thighs I had a workout because I was

on my bed so I kept like pushing myself up and down like oh my god and then I was my thighs I had a workout because I was on my bed so I kept like pushing myself up and down like this oh my god and then I was like chilling her you hot and then they they were giving me

sorry I have like a microphone in my hand I forgot to use it then they gave me like lightning bolts and it was like it was like so fun and then I was just

I like but that one girl is good the one that's like everywhere I love her was like like it's just so cute and it's just a fun way to be creative

I really like when I excel at challenges I get really excited about it because I don't excel at bop. Like, it's just so cute. And it's just a fun way to be creative. I really, like, when I excel at challenges, I get really excited about it because I don't excel at much. But that one, I, it's just exhausting. You're so good at it. Like, the balancing. And it was in your eyes, too. Yeah.

It was like a full performance. I know. It was wild. I think I was really good at it. I do think I was really good at it. I was like, this is so much fun. I was up, but I literally was doing it for like two hours. Oh, because I was trying to get a million likes and I did get a million.

And so I was like, okay, let me get to a million. So I was up there like two hours. We're supposed trying to get a million likes and i did get a million and so i was like okay let me get to a million so i was up there like two hours we're supposed to be giving malibu a bath and making dinner it was like 7 30 and he's like that was longer than an hour i was like oh yeah but it was your fault you were the one who told me about it so i was like tic tac live is kind of everything you get a lot of followers you get a lot of like people coming in like even though at what it was only like 6 000 at a time i think it ended up being like half a million people that came yeah which is like really cool that's what's cool about tiktok what's npc stand for non-playable, which is like really cool. That's what's cool about TikTok.

What's NPC stand for? Non-playable character. It's like a video game thing where it's like not, it's just someone in the background that repeats an action like over and over basically. Oh, that's why they're doing that? Did you know that Pop Crave actually tweeted your NPC, a clip from your NPC live stream and it got like 40,000 likes. Okay, kind of love that.

Pop Crave, I love them. I love that they're always on my side. They're always the most random stuff are they like okay what is pop crave exactly it's like a it's literally a twitter account they're making it a website but it's just like a bunch of like teens recent college graduates that are like running the account it's actually pretty sick yeah okay because they always are like tweeting like random stuff about me like hallie bailey commented on your pages of tiktok I was like, okay, I never know. I love Pop Crave. Please don't ever turn on me. Like they don't seem mean, but I love them. Yes. I think they were the first person to do it. I think it was like an hour after I did it, they had it. And I was like, oh my God, this is so fast. I love Twitter for that reason.

Twitter was going downhill pretty quick and I was kind of over it, but luckily I can promote, like, you know, I keep it for my OF. That's the only place you can you can promote so I kept Twitter for that reason but Twitter is the place where like you can go really really viral like when I just did this documentary this guy was like telling me he's like when do you think was the you were the most searched on Google like what is the most popular Trish era basically because I always say like you know unless I'm sitting next to a man no one cares about me you know what I mean like it's like you know I had Shane and then I had David and then I had Jeffrey and stuff like that so I always like those are's like, you know, I had Shane and then I had David and then I had Jeffrey and stuff like that. So I always like, those are the peak moments, you know, okay, vlog squad, Shane, whatever. He's like, no, none of those times. Like you were the most Google searched

in September of 2022. And it was because of Twitter when people thought I had given birth to like the reincarnate of Queen Elizabeth. And that was like, and it was, it was like little spikes, like, okay, Shane, vlog squad, Jeffrey. And then it was like, like the biggest spike was that was on Twitter. This, and like a random person started it was like like the biggest spike was that was on twitter this and like a random person started that rumor like the most like no followers and it became like so big it was the craziest and like tmz was calling like that was the most time i've ever gotten any like press it was so crazy at the time i didn't appreciate it and like now i'm like oh my god that's kind of iconic but at the time i was so stressed oh my god i was just i'm like people

are thinking i made this up and they're thinking i'm using my baby for clout and like you know you just think all these things and stuff and i was so upset by it at the. I was just, I'm like, people are going to think I made this up and they're thinking I'm going to use my baby for clout. And like, you know, you just think all these things and stuff. And I was so upset by it at the time. But now I'm like, oh my God, it's crazy. But yeah, that spike was insane. I mean, I think I get a lot of gay Twitter and it's like a lot of Trisha memes. Like kind of constantly. The Trisha Cinematic Universe.

I hear that a lot. Yes. I love it. The TCU. Yeah. Who's, what's the account I follow on? I actually know him in real life. Drinks for Gays? um drinks for gays drinks

for gays is it really he lives around here i know i met him at my tour like so random he's like i'm drinks for gays he's like oh that's crazy he loves britney too um but yeah drinks for gays always and again once again why i love the gays they get it they get it they get me anyways you know what i mean like they understand it and i love it so much and yeah gay twitter is crazy though i had a friend um who that's his whole thing was, and it's like, that's wild. There's some wild stuff. I think I got on gay Twitter for a minute, like on accident. I was showing Moses like some of this stuff. I was fascinated. I could not get out of it. The stuff they would show, the positions they would show, I was like, wait,

I thought I was pretty versed in this kind of stuff. And I was just like, I was shook. I'm like, how are they doing? I literally had to ask Moses. I'm like, how's that bouncing? Like, you know what I mean? Like, it was crazy. And the stuff they show and the width and everything. It was nuts. Gay Twitter was crazy.

How did I get on? It was like literally on my For You. It was on my Trending or something. I was like, what the hell? And it was on Trending For You. And all of a sudden this, I don't know, it was very weird. But it's great. I love it.

I think it's like Trisha and the gays kind of go like hand in hand. I love that. That's the best compliment. If anyone says that to me, I think Julia Fox said gay icon. I was like, oh my God, that's like the best compliment in the whole world. That's all I care about. That's all I care about, you know? Well, you're doing it.

Thank you. You're doing it. Because I feel like – okay, anyways. We're going to just go on and on for hours and hours, you guys. This was just Trisha and Oscar. We'll put asterisks. Well, we're hoping to get guests on. Like I would love nothing more than to have a guest sit here with me, but who knows with the climate of the world and me being canceled all the time. I don't know, but we're hoping to get

guests. I was able to do it before. We have some good ones. I have actually some good ones that have been in my DMs and I've been saving it, this opportunity for like more professional setting for them. But there has been some crazy cool people in my dms and um that we've become friends and stuff like that so i'm hoping we can do um some guest episode we'll do some taylor swift what's it called you called it something we're going to the heiress tour heiress does the heiress tour when is it is there it's coming a couple weeks it's like in a month yeah when she's here for like seven nights in august like where so far so far so that's where the weekend was yeah so i have tickets for one night yeah she's here it's a whole like

mini residency so we have to go how much money is she making and how can we can we get how do we get like how do we get like vip like i just hate being in line i know i was gonna say that was i thought i was afraid of like you would need like i feel like you even need like a box or something because like yeah i like to be in the pit i like to be up front like first row but i wonder i don't want to wait in line and that's not even me being like bougie it's just like literally i can't wait in line my feet would hurt in my back i didn't even go to my chemical romance well i just had a baby but i didn't go to my chemical romance because i was thinking like logistically i'm like am i gonna be waiting in line am i gonna be pushed am i you know just in general it's not like the good thing is that

like she has no pit. It's all, like, seated. But there are, like, good seats up front. I have tickets for one night. I might have to kick my boyfriend off so you can go. Okay, down, down. Where are the seats? Also, I can't see, so I have to sit close for that reason.

Mine are close. Like, I'm on the floor, like, pretty close to the stage as of right now. How much were they? Someone told me they were $6,000. Like, mine were only, I mean, only. At the time, they were expensive. They seemed expensive. They were, like, $700 because six thousand dollars like mine were only i mean only at the time they were expensive they seemed expensive they were like 700 because it was like a package but now they're being resold for like 15 000 it's like pretty crazy that's literally the most insane thing i've ever heard and taylor swift is not even like getting that money because

they're like they're second hand right yeah but we're gonna figure this out when we get to the heiress tour maybe we get sub hub to sponsor yeahress Tour. Maybe we get StubHub to sponsor. Yeah. I don't know many Taylor Swift songs, but yeah. But we should do a Taylor Swift episode sooner than later then. Yes. Because if this is happening. It's coming in a few weeks. Yes.

Okay. Yeah. I'll look at an outfit to get and we'll do that and we'll do this. And I actually have no idea, but I wanted it to be just Trish because if all else fails, it'll be just Trish. Well, and Moses. He'll be here. I'll definitely should just do a podcast with Moses at this point because like whatever but you know it's I don't know I don't know but

again I'm manifesting Wendy vibes Wendy are you more of the Susan or the Norm I think I'm more of a Susan yeah yeah I feel that way too like I mean Norm was always there but like you didn't really add too much but Susan was kind of like on it you're in the mix of both yeah because he had like the personality but she was kind of like on it and stuff like that. I miss Wendy. I love her. She's had her 59th birthday. Yeah, 59. Oh, she's great. Iconic. I love you. And I love you guys. Please subscribe. This channel, it's on my Evolution of Trish channel, basically.

I started with District Trish. You can see the early episodes here. Then we went into Trish Talks. I've had so many podcasts. So if you guys want to go rewatch Tinkles and Triggers, which is my latest podcast on here. It's an ASMR podcast. Check that out. And yeah, thanks guys so much. This has been so great. And just remember, it's not personal. It's just Trish. XOXO.