Just Trish - Zach Justice Silences TikToker For Exposing Dropouts & James Charles Called Trish

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

On this explosive episode of 'JUST TRISH', Trisha calls out Zach Justice for silencing and gaslighting a TikToker who reported on his relationship with former DROPOUTS co-host, Indiana Massara. Plus, Trish causes fireworks by revealing James Charles reached out (again) and attempted to call her to defend himself against all the allegations. And Lilah Gibney causes even more drama with the CANCELLED girls. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey guys and welcome to the 4th of July episode of Just Trish. And we're so happy you're here to celebrate a day off and to celebrate, I don't know, maybe 4th of July is a little controversial, but whatever. We're here today. Any excuse to dress up, really. Okay, yeah, that's what it was. I was like, I really wanted to do chaperone, statue, when can I do that and not be weird?

And so I thought 4th of July. But it's giving Wendy Williams. It's giving one in a million Miss Congeniality. It's giving Miss Piggy. And we decided to go pink today because if you guys know, the Statue of Liberty actually is copper

and it turned green in the sun. So we're going to just call this copper today. It's not pink. And we're here on 4th of July because we're going to actually skip it. But SeatGeek came through and was like, we want to sponsor you. So shout out SeatGeek

to sponsoring this episode. Use code Trish and you'll get $20 off your tickets. Thank you SeatGeek. More to come later. If you love those ad reads, stick around the first 20 minutes. It'll be there. And yeah, happy 4th. I don't know. It might be a controversial holiday, but you know, we're just here. We're just existing really. It's a day off. You know, it's, I don't know. Let's not go too deep into it. We're not a too deep podcast. But I also forgot to shout out our Patreon last time. Well, I did shout out the Patreon. But patreon.com slash justtrish.

You have until the 10th to join and get this month's headshot. So we have our Pride shot. We're themed. This is my headshot for next month, by the way. Spoiler alert. It's always a theme. So for June, you'll be like, oh, when was that? June.

Pride. You get the rainbow Birkin, the Swifty outfit, and the microphone is still featured. You get full body Trish in that. There's the bob that cut my real hair. It's just like a really commemorative piece. You also get a Trish Moji rainbow. This is from Pride a couple years ago. And you just get the iconic rainbow wig.

And it's rainbow. And it says, I love you with little heart hands. So celebrate your queerness all year round. Nothing says more than queer than Trish. A T. A T. Yeah, that's true. A T.

And then our producer tier will get a notebook sent to them. You get a Just Trish Trish emoji notebook. Again, paper and binding. It's plain. You can sketch on it. You can write it in a journal. You can do a confessional. Whatever you want to do in there.

I don't know. Just write happy things. Don't write I don't know just write happy things don't write bad things though you know just happy things so you get that in the producer tier and you also get your name

in the credits as our producer you get a handwritten note one of these cue cards but it'll say like your name and I'm going to put something for our

100th episode and our one year anniversary which is coming up so that's what you get at patreon.com slash justtrish we did a whole dramageddon recap

you can go watch that we reacted to Brooke Schofield's 10, 13-part series, Who the F Did I Marry? Really great stuff coming up this week. Muck banged until we were sick. We have crumble cookies. Sabrina Carpenter's espresso ice cream.

We just really went in. We really did. We really committed. I was a little sick after our muck bang last time, but it was all worth it it was all for the people it was all for the people I think it's just we just did a lot in the desserts I think we would have been good but for me personally the sweetness

overload was a little too sweet a little too sweet but it was great and well did you see this is kind of not really a hot topic but kind of did you see that Barry Keoghan tweeted please please please like five years ago yeah and he also said that he loved espresso like yes and he like kind of manifested his relationship with sabrina in a weird way via those tweets i think that's crazy i

guess they're meant to be sometimes they're just meant to be you know what i mean i think that's like a fate thing you're kind of like oh yeah that's kind of it is so uncanny like yeah it's like yes those are like common phrases but it's a little too specific. It's very specific. Especially those are her two popular songs now with him and he was in the police, like, very much so. But we loved her espresso ice cream. It was really good.

I wonder if they still have it at Van Luyen. What is it? Van Luyen? Van Luyen. What is it? I say it. Van Luyen. I think.

Bougie. Bougie, bougie. I hope everyone's staying inside in their air conditioning today and watching this because I literally was just like I want this to do well obviously but also we have a sponsor and we need it to do well

and I'm like are people going to be watching on a Thursday our Thursday episodes tend to not do as well as our Monday episode or Tuesday episodes so I'm like

okay they're going to do well hopefully you guys are inside I'm going to be inside for 4th of July I'm going to be inside too I don't do much on the 4th of July really

do you want to go to a crowded beach where there's no parking like I used to live on the beach and it would just be packed I couldn't even get to my 4th of July, really. Do you want to go to a crowded beach where there's no parking? Like, I used to live on the beach and it would just be packed. I couldn't even get to my own house, you know? That's how crowded it was. Yeah. And it's just going to be so hot, you know?

Like, just eat a hot dog at home. That's exactly what we're doing. We're literally getting a hot dog at home, a hamburger, and saying 4th of July. That's it. Yeah. We did get a Budweiser with American flag on it. I feel like that's something 4th of July. Do you like beer?

No. I don't drink alcohol. I don't either. But I feel like if I'm going to drink something, beer kind of tastes like soda to me. A little. Of all alcohol, more than like, oh my God, like vodka or tequila or something. Like gasoline. True.

I guess for like gays, like a vodka soda is like what everyone drinks. So that's, anytime I would go out, that's what I would get. Because I didn't know what else to get. That's true. I used to get vodka cranberry because you kind of like don't taste the vodka. You just take the cranberry. But I still think vodka is so gross. I do think like overall drinking is gross.

But I just thought, well, I'll have – that's a lot of calories. Yeah. I'm also just like – maybe it's like the neurodivergence. But I'm like so productive that like if I get hungover and I can't be productive in the morning it like throws me off like a lot so what happens you just like throw yourself around or something I know why did my head go there too when I say you can write notes I'm like don't write it on a live note I just like I was thinking so dark today I don't know why anyways happiness I might like throw yourself around the room.

Like, you just throw yourself around like, what do I do? Not throw yourself on my roof. Damn. It's the same. Yeah, yeah. You throw yourself around. I've never. Like, banging the wall. Really? Yeah. Oh. But I just, like, mentally feel, like, weird. Like, especially in the mornings, I'm, like, really, really productive.

So, I feel like I have to be doing something. Last time I was hungover, it was, god i think it was maybe like 2018 and i went to this like gay bar but it was like i didn't know it was leather night but it was leather night and it was like a bear bar oh is it still there is it still is on santa monica it's in burbank actually oh do you know what it's called the bullet bar Bar? Yes. Yes. Like on the corner. Yes. Yes. I love that bar. That was the last time I went. I just got so hungover.

And I didn't even drink much. I think I had one fireball. Like I shot a fireball and that was enough for me. You had a JoJo Siwa over there with the fireball. Someone said she's sponsored by it because she used to drink

like something else. Oh. And that was the first time she drank it but then she didn't actually drink it. She just held it to her lips and she didn't like swallow. Someone did like a deep analysis

of her performance. That's pretty fierce. Yeah. I want her to do like a documentary one day, like the behind the scenes of like the machine. So good. They just have, the more I think about it, like she just has to be smarter than any of us think. Like she just has to be.

Yeah, I agree. I do think, I do think she's like super smart in a lot of ways. It's like me though too. Cause like obviously she's like not smart when it comes to like talking about colleen and that kind of stuff like obviously she didn't know like who didn't tell her that but that's what geniuses are right like they're usually really smart in like some areas and then sometimes you're just like are you how do you even function which is like totally me not to say i'm dumb but there are some times where truly i'm just like how do you even know like who to call like when we got this house like how do people know

who to call for like your the the roof is leaking? Yeah. Someone comes and fixes your roof? There's roofers out there that literally do that for a living. They just fix people's roofs. Yeah, that's, like, buried me, too. Anytime I have any kind of adult, like, problem, like, banking stuff, like, car stuff, I just go to my dad. I just assume that he knows everything. So he knows, like, he has a guy for everything, at least. Do you, is your dad, is he one of those people that do, like, oh, I can help you?

He, yeah, he, like, is just always around because he's retired. And he just, like, he has a guy for everything, at least. Do you, is your dad, is he one of those people that do, like, oh, I can help you? He, yeah, he, like, is just always around because he's retired. And he just, like, knows everyone. He's, like, a talker. He's definitely a yapper, for sure. And he just, like, talks to every guy, like, maintenance people, like, car people. So he just has a guy for, like, everything. Oh, what sign is he? He is Sagittarius.

Wow. I love dads like that. My dad is, like, like smart but would never could never like literally doesn't even oh how do you know how to feed your baby how do you know when she's hungry like i'm like did you rate like did you at were you around i guess he wasn't he was for the first three years but he literally is like so confused by everything i'm like but he's so smart like he's so company so i'm just like what and i've never been able to ask for advice you're definitely gonna be that dad that she'll be like i can just that's why i pray he stays around for

like 60 years because i even told him i was like i don't know how to help these girls like when they're adults like i wouldn't know what to do like how to get an apartment like i didn't even know you could buy a house until i was like 31 and you didn't need full money to buy it so i'm just like that kind of stuff is crazy and hopefully you stick around for a long time and well i think they'll be the one helping you when they get older i don't know he still goes to his dad for everything and i feel like what if we have an oscar you know she'll be like how do you do the taxes i'm like i don't know your dad knew and now we're all screwed so i guess i could hire your dad well he yeah well

he might not be here either mo's not here i don't know nothing i love everything maybe it's like the fourth is like dark yeah everything you're Everything you're finding at dark angles. I don't know. I'm not even going to say it. I'm like, don't even say it. We're founding a country here now. That's true. You know, there's a lot of labor and sweat and tears

going into. Is that what it is? It's not finding a country. It's the declaration, right? Of independence. Yeah. That's when you start a country. But we didn't find the country.

No, found. Like found. We founded it. We're founding founders. They're like, this is our country now. Yeah. Okay. Foundation.

I guess that's why it's controversial because it was here. It was already founded. Yeah. Everybody trying to, this is our country now. Foundation. I guess that's why it's controversial because it was here. It was already founded. Everybody trying to steal the spotlight. Christopher Columbus and then who did the 4th of July? Who did the Declaration of Benjamin Franklin? Who else signed that thing? I think you signed it.

That's a good question. I think a lot of people did. I think so too. Yeah, I definitely learned about American lore at some point, but none of that was retained. No. I mean, like, American history. Did you get to take that? Uh-huh.

Yeah. Like, the Alamo. Don't remember it. Don't remember it. Don't care. Civil War I care more about. That's kind of iconic. But, like, I mean, maybe the Alamo is, too.

Don't come from me, actually. I don't know. I just don't remember. Yeah. I don't know. Honestly. I'm not a historical kind of girl. Unless it's, like, pop history, then it's, like, okay. Like, what do you know? Like, Dram. Yeah. I don't know. Honestly. I'm not a historical kind of girl. Unless it's like pop history, then it's like, okay.

Like what do you know? Like Dramageddon. I know all the details. If you're talking about like a pop history reference history, then you know. Because that's kind of how I am with like Hamilton. Like I kind of know things from that. I'm like, okay. So I don't even know who this is.

John Adams is the second president because George Washington left. So then like John Adams, you fat motherfucker. That's what he says in the thing. Oh, that's weird. Seriously, I don't even know him. Yeah, really? No, no John Adams. That's what he says. Oh, that's fair. I don't even know him. Yeah. Really? No,

no, John Adams. You don't know the presidents at all. George Washington, John Adams. And you can name one. Thomas. No,

Benjamin. No, Jefferson. No, he wasn't Jefferson. Okay. George Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson.

Yeah. Because it's like the streets in LA. Oh, Jefferson. Oh my God. That's a good way to think about it. How iconic that is. Maybe. Thomas Jefferson yeah because it's like the streets in LA oh Adams Jefferson oh my god that's a good way to think about it

how iconic that is maybe I don't know they could be awful people too because like why did they get anyways we won't get political

but hopefully you should have a street named after you one day I would love that what would it be just Paytas Boulevard oh that's pretty good I saw

Nina West who's on Drag Race All Stars this season i randomly just i think they showed it in the show like she has nina west avenue or something wait really in ohio where she's from that's so iconic so i'm like how do you just get a street name after you i want one yeah you could have one in like woodland hills or something yeah oscar i feel like there has to be oscar avenue or gracie avenue yeah but you have to be in like West Hollywood or Disneyland. Oh, first of all, if I was in West Hollywood, that'd be so iconic.

Like Santa Monica and Trish Bates Boulevard. I mean, sounds good. I like it. I mean, I don't know. That's a little JoJo on me to be like, I invented gay pop. Like, you know, let me be in West Hollywood. But I like it. I like it.

Yeah, I like where you're going with it. At least a side street, an alleyway, something. An alleyway? No, an alleyway. Yeah, I like where you're going with it. At least a side street, an alleyway, something. An alleyway? No, an alleyway. Oh, an alley. Anyway, the one where the toilet paper lives on. We'll call it Tisha Paytas. That would be everything, actually.

Yeah, speaking of drag queens, I'm kind of in my Juno Burch era today. Oh, it is giving Juno Burch. Because I was like, can we just paint my arms? Because we weren't going to. And I'm like, I don't know if it's safe to paint your body. But Juno does it. So I was like, well, I guess I'm going to be I'm like I don't know like if it's safe to paint your body but Juno does it so I was like well I guess I'm going to be a little pink version of that today so

love her she's fierce I do love Juno too yeah has a great YouTube channel as well she's on the motel show too right she was on she's in one episode yeah I haven't watched that is that Discovery? it's on Max now it's all one thing now and there's another season that

just started recently i haven't watched it yet but i don't know if it's a motel or like another property that trixie's doing i love that she's just like real estate yeah selling sunset can never trixie's actually was christine quinn on it i think i saw like a clip on this new season i think probably yeah i think tri is a, I saw clips of like the housewives too. Everyone wants a little piece of the Mattel empire. Yeah, she is kind of

the it girl at the moment too. It kind of switches up it girls here and there. I mean, once in a girl, always in a girl in my opinion, but Trixie's definitely an it girl for sure.

Oh yeah, for sure. But she's taking sabbaticals so she'll be not. Everyone's taking sabbaticals. Jeff's also taking a sabbatical. I know. What is, I can't imagine like us taking a sabbatical. That'll be not everyone's taking sabbaticals jeff's also taking a sabbatical i can't imagine like us taking a sabbatical that one week was like also like a lot i'm like you where even like christmas break i'm like i love having two weeks off but i actually get like i start crying i get like weirdly depressed and it's very weird and at the same time when i'm like

working on i'm like i want a break order no can never be me only just because again i don't know like it's just i mean of course take care of your mental health but this is kind of taking care of my mental health to me it feels like a little I guess like a little social hour like I feel like I'm socializing it's healthy you know it's working so I feel like I'm just being really productive in this little like couple hours we have yeah because when I have too much free time and I don't do anything with it I feel like oh my god like what am I doing what's it all for you know what was I made for yeah I get in that too I always say I tell my mom that, yeah.

Then you get too much time with your thoughts. Yes. Yeah. Oh, we're thinking. Yeah. Can't have that. Can't not have that. I love it.

But it's just like, yeah, we're just here for such a short time. Like, what, like 80, 90 years you're here and you're just kind of like, kind of what's the point, like, of it all, right? Too idiot. Really, none of it matters at the end of the day. But I'm like, why do we age? Why – because I was feeling my daughter's skin is so soft and then, you know, and then Really, none of it matters at the end of the day. But I'm like, why do we age? Because I was feeling my daughter's skin is so soft.

And then my skin's a little more rougher. And then, of course, my mom, too. And it's just like, why are we decaying as we die? You know what I mean? Why can't you just stay beautiful and youthful forever? Who came up with that scheme? And why? What's the purpose?

Why do we have to get sick and shut down? Oh, my gosh. Just shut us down. You're just going through your existential journey you know it's a very natural thing to go through yeah it's just very because the whole thing

you really do think about like it does have a reason it definitely has a reason we just don't know yeah Mo said the meaning of life is living life

and you know I'm just gonna go with that because what else yeah that's a good way to look at it yeah so I'm gonna try yeah

that sounds like the right answer yeah and I was thinking about it too I was like dang like we do like a lot of content in one week because someone was saying like oh i saw like a comment like oh like um because your episode of cancel came out and someone was like did tanem not see that they talked about unjust trish and

then i was like we have like eight hours of content a week which is like literally a whole season of bridgerton every week we have like a whole season of bridgerton bridgerton's not coming up two more years and we're like we can do that one day yes so it's like i really can't clock anyone we just have a lot out there we do i was thinking about that today because we're doing this our first time doing double hot topics and thinking like so do you go home and like upload the extended podcast today for our patrons yes i have to finish editing it and then upload that's so crazy and then tomorrow so like again thank god we got jimmy and then tomorrow we can do this because it's like that is a lot it really is a-time and like again i repeat this often

oscar also has a full-time job because people are like uh oscar should just work with him he totally could we would love him too but he also doesn't but it's crazy you kind of have almost two full-time jobs yeah that's why the productive thing i think because i'm so used to like balancing both so if i'm like all of a sudden have like a lot of free time like what's happening yeah yeah when I met you you had like two jobs so it was like a third job you had like three jobs basically I was like you need to chill over there but we're getting close to basically having a daily

show you know we really are people the amount of content we give people have five days of content to watch at least yeah especially because like the three hour the two and a half hour ones can be split up and then we have so yeah we have what Hot Topics Tuesday, Patreon extended Wednesday, Thursday another Hot Topics or a guest and then Saturday is the bonus but you can always divide the other ones up. And that's literally eight hours of content.

Yeah. That is actually crazy. Yeah. We like to work. It literally doesn't feel like work. I think if it felt like work I definitely want to do it but I just like love it. And it's like because it's in our house and I love to dress up and then we have a cute little social – I watch so much TikTok anyways like love it and it's like because it's in our house and I love to dress up and then we have a cute little social I watch so much TikTok

anyways so for me it's like so much fun it kind of gives me like this is like a bad analogy but it's like but in the fun days of like me and Shane like I remember like going over to his house and like talking for like six hours about like the latest gossip on YouTube and like he would watch all of it too but like no one else does so that's how I feel with you like you consume as much content as me yeah and that's why I was like I kind of live for this. And now Moses is like consuming content. Like he just told us like you guys hear about Eugene and Cooney and we're like what? Like where are you seeing this?

He'll like randomly like tell me stuff. And I was like okay I love it. And it's just fun. I don't know. It's kind of fun. And now I can have an excuse like I go on TikTok. I got to research. Like yesterday afternoon I was like I need to make notes for tomorrow.

So I go on TikTok for like an hour. I'm like let me see. You know why I think today is like feel a little dark, little heavy is like I'm like well anyways we'll get to that but we'll get to it at the end there is a topic I want to discuss that I've like actually never been so upset in so long like I actually get so heated like I'm glad it took us like a couple days to talk about it because I was like so angry like I actually wanted to make like a TikTok and I'm anyways we'll talk about it later but I I was like, I don't know. Y'all know we are so excited to see Chapel of Ronan tour this summer. Oscar got his tickets

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ah, just people abusing their power and just being gross and all that stuff like that, but we'll talk about that later. The looming. Maybe that's why, because I really do the past few nights, I've been watching it before I go to bed, which I never do. We usually watch Bridgerton or something cute before bed. And I've been watching this like just in bed, like, you know,

it's dark and you're just like this looking at your phone and you're trying not to wake anyone up. And so it just feels like already a little off and then you're like watching all this dark stuff and this weird stuff and you're just kind of like, ew. And then you think about it overnight. It like seeps in your head. Yes, very much. So, yeah, you got to watch something cute and fun, which, by the way, we tried to watch The Young Sheldon once again. This was our second attempt.

It was our second attempt. So I was like, no, I really want you to watch Dear Evan Hansen. I want to have a discussion. And then I was like, absolutely not. I just can't do it. So you don't have to watch Dear Evan Hansen because honestly to have a discussion and then I was like absolutely not I just can't do it so you don't have to watch Dear Evan Hansen because honestly like it was like painful like it's so weird because I really wanted to like give it a go and just like give a full analysis of why I don't or do like it but the thing is there's nothing happening that I can't even say I don't

or do like it because there's literally nothing going on like the whole episode I don't know why I like it so much I really don't because going into it I was like oh this is like so corny I just saw like so many TikToks about I got on Young Sh shelton talk i don't know how but i i was like this is so corny like big bang theory whatever like nerdy but then i kind of wanted to watch it for the meme of it all like oh like let me see how corny this could be and then i was like crying i was laughing i think it just reminds me of like childhood i don't know because he's just like so quirky. Your childhood? Yeah, because he's like a quirky little boy and his mom is like so supportive.

I'm like, oh, this is kind of me, Cody. He's annoying. But maybe I was annoying too as a kid. So maybe it is very me. I wondered that. Not to say you're annoying because I didn't know he was a kid. But I'm like, maybe he sees himself in this character. I think I do.

I never would have put it together. But I'm like, well, he's like an intellectual. He doesn't come off as annoying to me it was just smart kid you know he's too smart for his age

he's annoying his face is annoying not his face but like the way they make him like the only episode I saw was the church one where he's like up there

and the guy's like explaining like what is it God and science yeah and he's just like actually that's not right and I'm like

I don't know none of this the kid is not annoying the voiceover the original actor yeah he's he's not annoying no the kid's not annoying i should say that just the character the way that the plot line the storyline of just him being like well actually and it's not the kid's fault it's literally the story i'm like no any kids are like that maybe you were like that so maybe there was somebody i don't know it was just it was just slow. So slow. It was slow. Like the amount of things happening in the episode, there's so little. Oh, nothing happens.

And like every episode, like the episode before doesn't really matter. I don't know. That's what I was saying. That's why I was like, you can pause it. Well, because we were going to watch the first episode again. Yeah. I was like, well, let's start from the beginning because I wasn't paying attention the first time.

And you're like, just start the third episode. I was like, okay. So then we started the third. And I was like, it's just nothing. And it is sad. Like the dad was like, well, let's start from the beginning because I wasn't paying attention the first time. And you're like, just start the third episode. I was like, okay. So then we started the third and I was like, it's just nothing. And it is sad. Like, the dad was like in the hospital. Because I know, spoiler alert, he dies at the end of the last season. Trisha!

Wait, really? Oh, my God! Wait, what? How did they see? Everyone knows it! Are you still in the first season? Wait, what? I was in season three.

But isn't that how you saw it? No, I just saw it. No. I just saw cute little tiktoks of the show wait what oh my god I'm so sorry wait wait but that's the whole thing but he said the first season he said season three

no the finale of the whole show oh my god that's so funny oh no did you really not know I feel so bad and you hate spoilers oh my god really oh I don't hate spoilers spoiler alert I didn't say spoiler. Spoiler alert. Why is that a spoiler alert?

I didn't say spoiler alert. I just went really fast through it. I am so sorry. Oh my God. I feel so bad. I thought you were on Young Sheldon TikTok. Like I'm not even on Young Sheldon TikTok and I just saw everyone be like, oh my God, why did they do this on the last episode?

Like that's all I know. Oh, I had no idea. And I didn't watch Big Bang Theory that much. So I don't know. Maybe that was explored that Sheldon's dad Theory that much. So I don't know. Maybe that was explored that Sheldon's dad died at some point. I don't know. Probably, yeah. Oh, my God.

George Cooper. Oh, my God. Now, oh, my God. It's going to be so sad looking at him. But is he sick the whole time? Because in the third episode, he's already in the hospital for a heart attack. So I was like, well, damn. But it was just that one episode thing.

He was fine the rest of seasons two and three. Well, I don't know how he dies. So I don't know. I really don't. I can't spoil it for you. die, so. I don't know. I really don't. I can't spoil it for you. Oh, no. I'm going to say this again. Oopsie.

See, I'm telling you, it was a weird vibe. Even when you came in, I was like, are you okay? Like, I felt like something was wrong. And you're like, I'm fine. I'm just tired. But I felt like something was wrong. I was just like, I don't know. Everything has felt a little off this morning.

Oh, my God. That is so funny. Okay, yikes. You know what it is, too? Because it's not your routine to do a Hot Topics on a Wednesday. And every time, you're a little off your routine. That's so true. I know.

It will take me a minute to get used to. That's true because – right. I like it. I like the – I like having Hot Topics in the middle of the week. I think it's going to be good. But it does feel weird. It does feel like a little off. Yeah, you're right.

It's a little off the routine. I think it was also just like – I was like a little stressed too. I'm like, oh my god, do we have enough to talk about? Like it's actually crazy. There's like a daily – but I think there's a lot. There was actually a lot that did. I'm like, oh my God, we have enough to talk about? Like it's actually crazy. There's like a daily. But I think there's a lot. There was actually a lot that did pop off. There is kind of a lot.

And on Tuesday. The Hawk Tua girl. Again? Again? Yeah. What? How much more can she do? It's Hawk Tua.

That's it. It's over. That is a good point. Who did I see? Oh, I think it was EJ Dickinson. Dickinson, the one that wrote my article for Rolling Stone. She's like, this Hawk Tua girl will be over in like two days or something. I was like, okay, clock in.

Yeah, but then she just got signed to a management company. CAA signs there. Probably. They'd be signing her. To do what? To go around the town doing. I don't know. And I saw she got interviewed by Brianna Chicken Fry.

Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, Barstool. Yeah. And then her line of hats sold out okay what hats is she selling I love it cowboy hats

yes the hat business is very lucrative I know someone who sells hats and apparently it's very lucrative yeah I was like

researching because I still don't get the lore of the hawk tool girl this is how we kind of said on the extended like this is a whole

different side of the internet because I like just heard about her when it was like someone was like uh someone uh was like some conservative because some conservative was tweeting like you know gay people must be so upset that the hawk tool girl is the um the star of pride month or something

and all the gays on gay twitter are like who like we're listening to chapel rome we don't know what is going on same thing with the girlies like definitely don't know a chapel room. We don't know what is going on. Same thing with the girlies. Like, definitely don't know. Right? I heard someone say, like, they're just like, oh, only, like, guys and, like, pick-me-girls, like, know who Hawk 2 a girl is. Like, no one else. Oh, because I literally have no clue.

Me neither. No idea. She made the noise in a video. I was trying to get the lore and I still don't get the lore. She just said, like, how do you do something? She's like, you do a Hawk 2 or something.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. And then... And guys were like, oh, my God! Like, they go so crazy. But I was like, what the hell? Like, straight guys are wild. something like you do a hawk too or something yeah right yeah and then guys were like oh my god like they go so crazy but i was like what the hell like straight guys are wild also like like when jeff was here and for his episode and he's talking about like andrew schultz and all these

people who are like talking crap about him i'm like who are these i literally have no idea andrew schultz i like only have seen on tiktok okay i don't know his lore. I don't know, like he said from Joe Rogan, apparently, I guess I said, but like, is he a standup? Is he does only podcast? Like,

it is wild. What is going on on the other side of the internet? I just love being ignorant about it. Like, I don't need to know about Andrew Schultz or whoever else. No, because also like the stuff they talk about is just so like pointless. Like this Hawk Tua girl,

like not her, but just like, why are you making such a big thing? Like, are you, what is the whole thing? Like this Hawk 2L girl like not her but just like why are you making such a big thing like are you what is the whole thing like they're just that pervy they're like oh my god

she's in Hawk 2L and she's like cute I think like I saw a picture of her I mean I love her but I'm just like love and support

if she's into it I guess she is she's doing interviews but it's just like these men that make it like such a thing I'm like it is weird

are you okay do you get laid like are you good like why is yeah people are weird but and then like it wasn't okay do you get laid like are you good like why is yeah people are weird but and then like it wasn't her video that went viral so she didn't make like any money from it so i read this article like with her she did like a hat line with the small business from her town and um they sold out like right away and then the math someone calculated the math of how much

she made or they made so So all the hats sold out. So it would have been a total of $65,560. Wow. Obviously, that's split between like the company and her. But at least that's something. And she signed to an agency or whatever. So it sounds like she wants to like make it into something, which is good. Yeah, she said that she didn't want to like be known just for a catchphrase.

But then she's making merch. But like what else are you going to do? You kind of have to. No, yeah. You ride that wave as long as you can you never know she might be the next britney broski that's true it starts as a meme if she's smart if she knows what she's doing you never know that is crazy i do remember when i had the dish with trish which was like a podcast like no one listened to back in 2019 um it literally i remember britney

broski being pitched like they would like picture and they're like she has a meme a kombucha meme and i think that was obviously i didn't like reject her like to her face or whatever i was just like oh i don't like know anything about this like what am i gonna talk to a meme person for for an hour and a half and then look at britney broski now rejecting us full circle so it is you know i get it like i get it you never know and she could be super popular and funny and yeah she could take this and become the next it girl who knows maybe that'd be crazy old oh my god yeah the cancel girls have her totally i see it for sure they were also in a guest route when we're on the episode we're talking about how like we're in a guest route so i'm not to say she's not

worthy of coming out she could come on but for me it's just like i'm like okay i gotta really think like who i'm like really interested in you know what i mean yeah because um these days got two kids i'm tired i can't do full research I'm like I gotta really just be like interested but we have some good guests coming up yeah we kind of do and it's like some exciting ones too like I I feel like because we it's like uh we're like you know a small family shop over here you know like that was like you were a small business so it's like I don't know it doesn't really hit sometimes but then like the people that like are even possibilities i'm like dang like it is crazy that's kind of wild no it's so wild and bizarre we always will text you and be like oh my god this person followed this person

and it's like so cool to this day i'm just like oh my god like i think um chopper runs make bars who did the last makeup look like dm me i was like this looks so good i was like oh my god like i love you i'm so excited like it's like it is really weird it's really cool that people watch and it's cool yeah it is such a gag but that's why too

like we used to be like with the 10 of it all like we were hyping it up so far today but now I just want it to be like a surprise whenever something happens yeah yeah yeah

cause also I'm one of those people too cause we do have like some really exciting guests I think but it's also like until it happens I just don't wanna like you know what I mean

I'm not even like thinking about it in my personal life like it is so hard cause I get so excited but I'm like let me just like chill same it's also like until it happens I just don't want to like you know what I mean yes I'm not even like thinking about it in my personal life like it is so hard because I get so excited but I'm like let me just like chill same it's still a couple weeks but I'm just like yeah planning but also like not getting too yeah yes yes I think that's the best way to be and as it happens it happens yeah it's cool uh really exciting stuff coming up we will get young Sheldon on how old is he is age yet? He must be older now.

He was in Big Little Lies. He was like Nicole Kidman's son, I think. Recently? Um, whenever that show was on. I don't even remember that show. I didn't know what show. I haven't seen it either, but it was a big deal when it was on. I don't know.

And he was an adult in it? No, he was a little kid. Oh. Why is that? You're like, oh, he's an adult? Okay. Well, I don't know. I think that was before Young Sheldon.

Oh, I thought you were saying like, well, he must be an adult because I just saw him in this and I was like, okay. He has to be like 18 probably.

I feel like that show has been on forever. Armitage age. He's only 15 now. Wow. That is crazy. He looks older. I saw him in like

an interview. He looks older. Did he get discovered by Perez Hilton? I think that you were telling me that, I think. I mean, that could be something I just totally made up, but I felt like Perez Hilton would send him to Broadway shows.

He was like a theater reviewer, I think, when he was like five or something. Oh, you're right. He was a little Tony's correspondent in 2017. Man, good for him. How old was he? He must have been 2017. Okay, math. Okay.

Three, seven. So if he's 15 now, he's eight. Yeah, he was born in 2008. So it's like his real character in real life is a little closer kind of close to the character

in the movie in the show I don't think young Sheldon's a theater reviewer no but I can see him you know if he's like there doing interviews

and you know yeah he's just more like adult like yeah very mature and intellectual if he does yeah yeah he always came across that way

that's why I was like wait I think that's the same person okay good for him so Preston discovered him wow good job yeah he's a good actor though because he like copies the adult shell like i feel like he's like studying that man so hard and it's like okay like let me be the little version of him yes but as he gets older like on season three he's

already he had a growth spurt so he's already looking older i feel like it's so his like personality is cute for like a little kid yeah it's like oh that's a cute little kid you know but then as he gets older it's like my boyfriend, like, personality is cute for, like, a little kid. Yeah. It's like, oh, that's a cute little kid, you know? But then as he gets older, it's like, my boyfriend, who was, like, really into it the first season, is, like, now he gets really annoyed with young Sheldon. Too obnoxious. Yes. It's like, it's like the old Sheldon, the Jim Parsons on Big Bang Theory. He's, like, annoying.

Yes, yes, yes. Because, like, you're just annoying. Like, stop. You know what I mean? As a character. What's his name? Sheldon. Sheldon.

Yeah, I don't, I never liked big bang theory for that reason i tried to be into it i was like a little bit of a pick me because again i dated someone that loved big bang theories i was like love it too but like watching it now i'm like they're all pick me's on that show really the girl across the way i love her kaylee cuoco but the character she plays a little bit of a pick me for sure i like kaylee cuoco too my friend my not my friend my like a girl i went to high school with is her stunt double and like her instagram stories are like they're always like doing little dances on set together i love that and they just seem like bffs and i'm like kaylee seems like a cool girl i love her she must be like set for life after big bang theory but she's still working i'm like yeah kudos mom

because she was in a commercial where she's like pregnant too i was like wow she's really hustling she's just doing everything i loved her she was on like she played marcia brady when she's like 14 i loved her on eight simple rules with john ritter i thought she was so pretty on that show i was like i want to be her um yeah she's kind of been all over the place i like her so much me too she's cute she dated johnny glucky in real life right yes which is like so crazy but johnny glucky is sneaky hot they try to make him look like a nerd on that show like oh my god you're such a nerd but like he's actually hot like everyone i feel like that happens a lot too what where they try to like make them look nerdy and you're like they're actually good yeah then

you see them out of like their roles and they look look hot there's a guy on um hacks who is like hot but like in this show they just dress him to be nerdy and like his character's nerdy so like you're nerdy and then like on twitter like it'll be like um you know that that trend which where's like don't would anyone be mad at me, and it's like they just post someone who's like controversially hot. Oh. Oh, right, right, right. You're like, he's just hot.

Yeah, he's just hot. Yeah, and that was him? Yeah, and he's like ripped and like shirtless or whatever. I'm like, he's just a hot guy. You know, it's like, it's not controversial. It's like Hassan in glasses. Like he's like, oh, that nerd. Can I say something?

Yes. He's wearing Spider-Man on his shirt. He has glasses. Glasses. That's the traditional, like making a pretty girl like ugly too. It's just like, put her in glasses. Uh- a pretty girl like ugly too it's just like put her in glasses even like his own now too i feel like maybe because i talked about him so much

that he just kept coming up on my twitter now i'm like it's almost too much now because like he's just like hot and everything and he was listening to charlie xcx and i'm like i think he's just he knows that he wants to get the gays excited he's a little bit of a pick me. He's a gay pick me. Or straight for gay. Yeah. Straight for gay. That's good. Like straight for pay. Or gay for pay.

Or straight for pay. There's that too. Interesting. Yeah. I think that happens just in general. Like, right? People get like a little oversaturated. Again, that's why I'm kind of glad I never like popped off.

Because I feel like no matter what, like as big as you get, like people either get sick of you, want to bring you down, you're oversaturated. Like some, you know what I mean? And then it it becomes like I'm kind of over this person yeah that's why like self-deprecating is kind of the way to go like just never buy into your own height because then you never have to worry about you know a fall or something absolutely you're like I'm already there be like oh she fell off she got cast like that's been my brand you know falling off there's like nothing else to it so um, yeah. It's kind of interesting. You look like Johnny Glutty a little bit in that show. Is it the glasses?

And the hair. And your eyes. And your face. Yeah. That face. The smile too. I mean, if you're on TV, especially back then, like you had to be attractive. That's true. Yeah. Now there's more space for quirkies on TV. Yeah. Big Bang theory i feel like had

the quirky but um what's his name is his name raj on big bang theory like he's hot um and then the other one too i forget his name too the little one he's kind of hot too they're all kind of sneaky hot except and sheldon's hot let me just not it's a weird vibe today sorry maybe there's like a fun what was that wait did you have that well that was a topic we were going on or no yeah bang big bang theory is a hot topic it just just came out people are still wondering i wanted to be on that show so bad what yeah oh i like i said i was dating this guy i was like really into it he would like go sit in the audience because it was like filmed where they film ellen is at warner brothers oh yeah so he like always go watch it film and he's like oh you should come with me

and watch it and i was like i've never seen the show he goes okay you have to watch the show before you come with me and watch it. And I was like, I've never seen the show. He goes, okay, you have to watch the show before you come with me. And then I'd watch like all the seasons. And then like I never got to go to the show. And I was like, okay, that sucks. But he didn't even know anyone. He would just like literally get free tickets or something. My hot topic, my hottest topic was Olivia Rodrigo announced her Stanley Cup.

And it like really sent me spiraling because I want this Stanley Cup so bad. But I saw a clip of Tana on Octopus, on Therapist. And she was making fun of Stanley Cups. And then, so I was like, okay, I'm over the Stanley. But then Olivia announced her Stanley Cup. And I'm like, shoot. I became like really confounded. Yeah.

What is her Stanley Cup? Just purple? It's purple. And then it has a little star. Like, it like looks like stickers, but I think it's printed on. And then it says like OR on it. What's it mean? Olivia Rodrigo.

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You love it. I have to get it. Yeah. How much is it? 50 bucks. Oh, it's a regular card. But it's like a you have to get it. You love a living room. I have to get it. Yeah. How much is it? 50 bucks. Oh, it's a regular cost. But it's like a whole thing to get it. Because you know the Stanley girls were a little wild with camping outside and stuff.

I was pro the Stanley move. I was supportive. I remember. You guys do your thing. You're like, we love that they stand out on Target. I was like, they're losers. And you're like, no, got it. I supported them on their journey of capitalism, whatever.

I'm like, work. But Tana was making fun of them. She's like, these girls are carrying around, like, a giant blender with them everywhere. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. And I was like, shoot. First of all, but that's coming from a skinny girl. Because from us big girls, we like to look small with them.

We like to have a big. What did I say? Cooler? I love having a big cooler because then I look so tiny. But like, oh, excuse me, my big purse and my big cup. I'm just so skinny. You can't even see me. That's what I like.

But. And they're silly. I love when people have, like, all the random accessories for their stand big cup i'm just so skinny you can't even see me that's what i like but they're silly i love when people have like all the random accessories i mean it's wild but supposed to have that do we send them for free we have little accessories on them yeah we sound like little things yeah you got a cup you might have gotten like a fuzzy heart and a disco ball that's fine yeah we were advertising them because like even when i got them like they broke sometimes so we just like gave it for free in the thing but But they were supposed to go on like the little cup too. Yeah, I love it too when there's like little danglies on it. Does she have a dangly or you have to buy them separate? I don't know if she has a dangly actually. You have to like sign up for an email list to find out more or something.

I don't know. So they come out July 9th. So I'm going to be really on it. But it's like, I don't know. I'm a little nervous because the Stanley community is just like, you know. Wait, what do you mean? You're nervous about not getting one? Yes.

Because it'll be like. You probably have to pay $500 for. Yeah. Oh, at Poshmark. It's my mom reselling them on Poshmark. Like I got a Posh hookup. Don't worry. I wonder if there's a limit.

Like Skims gives you only like two per. I hope so. They said they have like a special website for like to avoid bots or something. So I don't know. But it really like triggered me. I was like Stanley and Olivia. Like that's like, like you know is she your number one um my roster i was thinking about this driving over here actually like but my roster is taylor's still like number one just it's like a a legacy thing like it's just we've been through too much so she'll always be number

one two i think olivia is probably number two wow Wow. Chapel's probably three. Wow. And then Sabrina is probably four. What would Olivia say if Sabrina was in your top five? Oh, you think they made up. In your head, you think they're perfect. Yeah. In my head, I think everyone is like cool with each other, especially like Olivia and Sabrina's beef was mostly about Joshua Bassett being just kind of like F boy vibes, like going back and forth because then sabrina had a song on her last album that was about um joshua bassett too like

you just go to whoever's winning is like one of the lines in it who's joshua what's he from high school musical the musical the series was he the zach afron character? he was the Zac Efron character Olivia was the Vanessa Hudgens oh really? wait so is it like they're in the same high school that they went to in High School Musical and then their high school is putting on a musical of High School Musical

so it's like that's actually kind of cute so Olivia plays Gabriela she got the role of gabriella and then joshua got the role of troy and then are they like the same kind of thing where like he's a jock and she's a nerd kind of olivia it was kind of in a love triangle with like another jock and then yeah i love love triangles i wish i was in a love triangle like in in a tv show like when i was watching bridgeton i was like god she's so lucky because i was i

think i was telling you this. Like I always just wanted to be like on TV for that reason to like feel desired by like two hot men at one time. You know, she got like Lord Devlin and Colin and they're both like, and he's jealous and he's seething. I never had anyone jealous or seething over anything. I'm like, how fun would that be? And I always get jealous of girls in love triangles in movies.

So like, it's like Twilight too. It's like, wow, you have two hot people that want you? Like what? Love triangles were the thing. Maybe they still are the thing, actually. Gypsy Rose is in a love triangle, too, which is another topic. She doesn't. I don't think she likes us, by the way.

Did you see the clip of Ryan being like, I love Trish? He said, we love Trish. Gypsy's like, not saying anything. She's smiling. She's like, ha, ha. He goes, I mean, I love Trish. And I was like, ooh. Was that a new clip?

Yeah. I think she just. I think she just doesn't know. No, she definitely does. Because this is like the second or third time someone brought Trish up. And this is the second or third time Ryanyan was like i love trish and she's like or he said we love trish and then she's like and then he's like i love trish but i just think she didn't have a chance to even form an opinion you know because i don't know no i can already

tell especially after the um my man went and touched you with a 10-foot pole like that so i was like i can tell not in a bad way but i feel like she might you know be a little self-conscious about other even though i'm like married with a baby and like I don't crush after Ryan. But you know what I mean? Like if you're insecure already, like maybe she had this bad relationship or something. I don't know. Whatever.

If you're already insecure, maybe you just don't want another like woman around. You know what I mean? Maybe. That's not. I don't know. That's the vibe I got. It's not a row. We're not going to hang out with her.

No, I know. But like I could just tell. They were like on a live, like divided. And I could just tell because he's like, yeah, we love Trisha. he was definitely not sensitive of saying like he loves another woman like you just don't say that because she was like so saying that was not it just lacked that's what i'm saying it could have nothing to do she didn't even know who i am but she's like and he's like okay well i love trisha the way he said it and then to continue on about it yeah he's like i loved her in this and i was like oh my god like i really like her content or something else and i had to dm him but i did dm him being like i need to get a hold of gypsy

and then that's what i told you she dm me like a minute later so i was like oh she's on it somewhere like she's on his dms notifications um but gypsy i love you i am happily married and no love triangles on the sand i know no love triangle triangle. But she is a desired woman. I mean she – it is crazy. I'm not trying to be insensitive here. But it is wild – not crazy. It's wild that like that guy that's like in prison for unaliving her mom like did that because he was in love, right? Like isn't that why he did it or he wanted to protect Gypsy?

I think so. But wasn't he also like a little unwell too or something? I don't know. I haven't gone that deep into that case in general. But – When you said unwell, I think of the Unwell Network and it's like interesting. I'm like, why don't they have people who are unwell? I guess they have Harry Jowsey, but I was like, in general, why don't they have? What does he have? He's unwell. Because I did see a bunch of people on TikTok being like, I don't like that Harry Jowsey's on this Alex Cooper. Oh, I think it was Francesca. Did you see that comment? Oh, no. She said

Alex Cooper is not a girl's girl because she has harry on the unwell network which is like a girl's girl network you know like a podcast people are really pissed that harry jowsey on there and i agree there's no one i despise more than harry jowsey except for zach justice but we'll get there in a second but i was just like that's actually kind of wild i didn't think about that when you think of color daddy or alex earl like their brand is so women friendly so it's kind of weird to have harry jowsey on Yeah, because, I mean, what is his demo? I don't know. Is it girls? I have no idea. Probably nobody anymore. There's probably no demographic. There is

someone who keeps reaching out to me, like a company I know, and they're like, keep wanting me to do a pod swap with this person who has, like, a lot of followers. But it's just, like, not this is not the vibe. I'm like, I don't want to bring this person on. He's a little controversial and just, like, is not for the girls and the gays. He always has, like, controversial people on his podcast. And I'm like, that's not my vibe. But they're, like, really pushing it. They're like, he's really popular. He's popping off. And I was just like is not for the girls and the gays. He always has like controversial people on his podcast. I'm like, that's not my vibe.

But they're like really pushing it. They're like, he's really popular. He's popping off. And I was just like, I just said no. I was just like, I don't know. Like I don't want someone that's like offensive to like gay people on my show. You know what I mean? Like that's so weird.

That's like, I guess that's the same comparison. It's like, wow, you have a whole women. Like the Call Her Daddy is all about women empowerment, all this stuff like that. But then you have Harry Jassy who all he does is like use, abuse, gaslight, manipulate women on TV. Like it's kind of weird. So I kind of – that's the only equivalent i could see because it literally happened this morning the pod swap thing with that person that's to me in my opinion a little bit not gay friendly and i was like that would be very odd and i didn't go on piers morgan because i mean he's super like transphobic and homophobic in my opinion so i was just like it's kind of odd that you would do that but anyways go off but we were saying oh gypsy

rose were you going somewhere were we doing a hot topic oh just her love triangle yeah is it just it's kind of odd that you would do that but anyways go off but we were saying gypsy rose were you going where are we doing a hot topic oh just her love triangle yeah is it just any update just oh well have you seen like texting no like ken oh no ken and gypsy were on like the same like that split tiktok live and then she got a text from ryan yes yes and um saying that like he misses her whatever but then ryan went on his own tiktok live and saying that like he misses her or whatever. But then Ryan went on his own TikTok live and was saying like – I saw that. Yeah, Ken, like I have the receipts. Like Gypsy is telling me that she misses me, blah, blah, blah.

I think I'm mixing them up. So Ken is the big one. Ken is the current one. Ryan is the bigger one, the ex-husband. Got it. I think I mixed it up when I just talked about it. So everything I said just say Ryan. With the names, yeah.

Ken's bigger. No, Ken is the current. Ken is the current one. Yes. Ken is the current one. He loves Trent. This is why we can't With the names. Ken's bigger. No, Ken is the current. Ken is the current one. Yes. The one that says he loves Trent. This is why we can't have basic names. This is why people need to name their kids like Pilot Inspector because it's like there's too many Kens and Ryans and they all look the same.

Okay. So Ryan is a little shady though. Like everyone was team Ryan because they kind of felt bad because she did. Did you see the kissing the frog? She had to kiss a frog to see a prince and she did the side by side. I'm like, girl, okay, we don't have to do all of that, you know? But at the same time, like seeing his behavior with her i haven't watched a show i just see clips but he does seem a little bit um she gives it gives a little bit of her mom

vibes you know what i mean just very like overbearing very just like who are you texting why can't i come and she goes i just want to see my sister for a girl's trip and he's like but don't you want me there like it's kind of a little too much yeah clingy or something yeah but in like a weird way and then the stuff where he's just like, oh, my girlfriend, she's like, why do you need alcohol? He's like, in case my girlfriend, my ex-girlfriend comes by. I'm like, he just does stuff to like push her buttons

when she's like just got out of prison. She's obviously also like had a traumatic thing with her mom. She's like, you know, it's just, I don't know. I don't really feel bad for him either. And then when I saw that one you were talking about where he was like texting her

and then he's just like, I have them receive. She would be hitting me up all the time and then blocking me. I'm like, how old are you? Like, obviously like you're an adult. Like, why are we doing this? Yeah, I think they all – we all just need to move on, you know.

Like, you got to just know when to throw in the towel and just keep moving, you know. I think it's going to be hard for all of them because – well, like, Gypsy is her own person. She's her own entity. She can keep going forever. But I feel with Ryan, the bigger one. Yes. Okay. Sorry.

I'm just trying to differentiate. Like I feel like for him this is kind of his maybe 15 minutes of fame that he maybe doesn't want to like give up quite yet. Yeah. Because it's hard to parlay it. Even like John and Kate. Like Kate Gosselin did a good job parlaying her fame for like an extended 15 minutes. But no one really knows where she is now.

I guess she's doing that show with Dr. True. The one that JoJo did too. What was it? Yeah. Special Ops or something. Yeah. Apparently she went to NICU or something like that. NICU? ICU. I don't know. Oh like working in it? No. Like she ended up in there. Like injured or something? From the show.

I don't know. Yeah. Anyways. That's wild. Yeah. But maybe he's trying to be like a Kate Gosselin of it all all but is he like a substitute teacher or a teacher or something is he i have no idea because i remember watching seeing a clip again and she's like oh you have to work tomorrow and he's like you know i just got a call from the principal and she's like concerned about the d is fire comment or something so i think he works with like kids like that's you know like this job is important to me i need this job like that yeah how do you still like keep your normal job i would guess it's not probably but

yeah he did on the show but yeah maybe not at this point and then in that case yeah then i i guess yeah i guess you could try and sue i don't know if you could sue someone because then you lose your livelihood but you agree to be on the show so yeah he had to have known but you know i have a firm belief everybody wants to be famous. Do you think that? Not everyone, I don't think. Like a little bit. There's always like a little bit. Maybe they don't go hard for it, but I feel like there's always a period in somebody's life that they want to be famous.

I think once, I don't know if everyone like wants it innately, but I think when like a lot of people have like, have it or get like this tiny like slice of it, they get addicted to it. And then I think they want it more. More of it? Yeah. Because I've had like, like my brother, there was a moment where he was like auditioning for like music videos. any like slice of it they get addicted to it and then i think they want it more more of it yeah because i've had like like my brother friends and the key there was a moment where he was like auditioning for like music video like he i don't even think he wanted to be famous like it just

was something he wanted to try and then he was like i don't like it but i feel like there's a lot of people who are just like super private like think about the um yeah um the conjoined twins like how they like turn down like all the like reality tv deals or whatever and just like want to live their lives as teachers and like be private and not do you think maybe because they got a taste and they didn't like it maybe because they were they were on a reality show right yeah yeah because i know people that are true introverts like they they just have no desire of any attention of any kind okay i mean maybe that's why it's true i don't know i just always think like anyone i know even if they are like an accountant or something now or like I knew

someone that worked at the Bank literally the Bank of America right like down the street I knew when I was like 18 and I remember he was like kind of like that just private

just like to enjoy his life but then he like wanted to go on a reality show just randomly and then he went on it and then he like tried to sue the reality show I don't think it even aired

because he was like embarrassed or something like that I don't know it's like weird and I'm like why did you do that and then he like completely disappeared

I think he's back at the Bank of America you probably come across more of those people maybe that's true because they'll you know they see you they he like completely disappeared. I think he's back at the Bank of America. You probably come across more of those people. Maybe, that's true, yeah. Because they'll, you know, they see you, they'll confess to you like I always wanted to or I want to or maybe you can help me or whatever. That's true.

You probably meet more of those. That's crazy. If you've never desired to be famous, let us know in the comments below like why because I can't comprehend it. But I don't know. You know, like I think about, what's his name, Ken, the one from Messinger. He was the one that was a doc. Was he a doctor? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, okay, so someone like that who's a doctor and then just all of a sudden is like, I think about, what's his name, Ken, the one from Masked Singer. He was the one that was a doc. Was he a doctor?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, okay, so someone like that who's a doctor and then just all of a sudden is like, I'm going to do a movie. Like, you don't just do that out of nowhere at, like, 50 years old or 40 or however old he was. Right, but sometimes, you know, maybe their parent, his parents pushed him to go to medical school, but he always wanted to be an actor. What's his name? Ken Jeong. Yeah, like, he, like, seems to really enjoy the fame aspect of Masked Singer. So I'm just like, but he was a doctor for his whole life and he had a family.

But he was on Community. After. So he did Hangover. I think that was his big break. And then he got Community. By the way, I love that you watched Community. I feel like me and Moe's are the only people that watched Community. Oh, I loved it back in the day.

Me too. I kind of did too. But then you kind of watch it now and you're kind of like, it's kind of, Joel McHale gives me an ick a little bit. Really? Yeah. I don't know why in general. I liked him back in the day.

I did too. He hosts House of Villains. I know House of Villains. I'm like, okay. He gives you an ick? Not the ick. a little bit really yeah yeah i don't know why in general i liked him back in the day but then he hosts house of villains and all house of villains i'm like okay not the ick he's just like he's so deadpan that like sometimes i'm okay let's wrap it up like he doesn't want to be there or something yeah like that's his shtick like he's like why am i doing this like low brow job or whatever you know like hosting this trashy show that's kind of a shtick but i'm like it gets a little tiresome after a while let's you know pack it like in little doses I think yeah yeah yeah I because I feel like it was cute on the soup or whatever but it's like now it's like he's like why am I hosting this show it's like well I don't know no one else is hiring you that's why you're

hosting it like why else would you be I hate I do hate that I guess like you said that's like his character but that would be annoying especially if the show's like cute and camp like out like if Alan Cummings had the on trader like why am I here it's like that would like ruin the show you know I mean I like that Alan Cummings especially the Alan Trader, like, why am I here? It's like, that would, like, ruin the show, you know what I mean? I like that Alan Cummings, especially when it started. Like, I don't know if they expected it to be a big thing, you know,

but he really, Alan Cummings really committed to, like, the campness. In the first season. We should watch the first season of that, actually, because we're running out of shows to watch,

so I watched Young Sheldon. But Hacks is the other one. We should make a note of that because you had mentioned that before. It actually is a really good show. Okay, I always see that when we, is it on Max? Yes.

Yeah, I always see that when we put it on Max and then we should watch Trader season one because I would love to see Alan Cumming on that. Yeah, he commits full on to that. I think his stylist for that show was on Watch What Happens Live with him. He was like the bartender. Do we want to go on that show or no?

Watch What Happens Live? Yeah. Maybe. Why not? Because Alan Cumming was on – What happens on it? It's like a late night show. Yeah.

With Andy Cohen. Although we probably talked bad about Andy Cohen. I would have like checked the tapes have we ever said anything bad about Andy Cohen honestly at this point I'm kind of just like you know

just expect it just expect it until they prove themselves innocent they're guilty no really for me it's like if you like me then I take back

everything I've ever said like we love Andy Cohen you know what I mean that's how we go but no because Alan Cumming was on it and then his stylist was like the bartender and I I think Gigi was the bartender one time.

I don't know how this all happened. Someone told me it's really little in there. It's tiny. You been? No, I've seen. Just seen it? Yeah, because we've done like interviews there or whatever. So you see like the full it's kind of like it literally is this actually. Really? Yeah. But they have like an audience. Yeah. But it's like a small audience. Teeny. I'd like to go on it. I don't think, I don't know why I'd be on it, but I'd like to go on it i don't think i don't know why i'd be on it but i like to go to new york together um i am the statue of liberty today so it makes sense yeah did you know we got the statue of liberty from paris yes why it was a gift oh for what i don't remember why yeah damn you were going good i know yeah i think we you know helped them win the war against the Nazis so so they gave us a statue?

Of liberty, yeah. That's sweet. Oh, like freedom? Mm-hmm. But weren't we our own country when we helped them win? So we were already free? Yeah, we were definitely. So why did they give us the thing?

Commemorative. It wasn't about. Commemorative plate. It was just a thank you. Oh, okay. You know. What a nice present. Because you liberated us.

Here's a statue of liberty. We liberated Paris. France. France and Europe in general. Oh, I didn't. Yeah. Damn, we did that. I guess that's one thing to celebrate in America, right? I mean, we're not all bad all the time.

Bastille Day is on my birthday and that's the French Independence Day. I know that. Ooh. Oh, Bastille means what? Independence. I don't know. That's so weird. How come we're all getting our independence in July all of a sudden?

It's like you're independent. You're independent. People just marking it as that. All right. I mean, work on that for sure. Bastille Day. Well, I'm sorry you have to share your birthday with Bastille Day. Matt Howard would be upset.

It is kind of a bummer. Yeah, at least I'm not French. That's true. Yeah, it doesn't really affect me that much. That's why I think with the Fourth of July birthdays, like, because i'd be like kind of awful because everyone's like we're celebrating i think just any holiday in general if you're like on the actual holiday it would be kind of bad i guess yeah because it's like you don't have they have like your moment because like like if you have your i think of everything like as a post right so if you have your birthday post on the

fourth of july it's like okay then you're freaking in everyone's feed with like the fireworks and all that right you know so it's like damn yeah we see, I think we were looking at a house yesterday, just like looking, and there was like a happy birthday, Jessica, and it was all like patriotic fireworks and stuff. I guess you have to make it your theme at that point, your red, white, and blue. I was like, all right, that works.

You should be able, just like you change your name legally, you should be able to change your birthday legally. I mean, that's kind of true. You should, yeah, right. You know, for celebration purposes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not something else.

Oh, right. That makes sense. Right. Oh, yeah 25 that's a good point actually yeah very clinton kane vibes just changing your year oh gosh clinton kane he's also was one that made it a weird week i feel like that's what i'm saying like you read all these like weird icky people and you're like oh don't put that in my life you know yeah i saw someone like try to research and like found like childhood photos of him but it was kind of depressing too because it's like he was just a little boy like why did you have to go and you know off your family yeah right it's true when you see someone as a little kid you're kind of like what happened because like every child is born like innocent and pure and just like sweet

and then it's like something happened to make you into a pathological liar yeah like what Snapped because we were talking about it, you know, jim morrison from the doors There's a famous interview that he said that his parents died, you know, like a car accident or something. Is he lying? Yeah, they were alive his whole life. They were alive. His dad was like in the military and stuff like that crazy So maybe maybe he took a page from his book, you know, he was like, let me do that Just for like the artistry of it all. Yeah. That is wild.

It's like I'm a tortured singer because I lost my parents. That is so crazy. It's just like I can't wrap my head around it because it's just like a mystery. But like we'll never get to the bottom of it because he doesn't like say anything. Maybe one day he will. I feel like one day you have to be like, this is why I did it. Especially now. Like he must have like offers.

Like if Rolling Stone and like People Magazine are reaching out to him, like he must have offers for like an interview. It's like a tell-all, you know? Maybe he I did it. Especially now. Like he must have like offers. Like if Rolling Stone and like People Magazine are reaching out to him like he must have offers for like an interview. It's like a tell all, you know. Maybe he's saving it. He has like a book or something, a book deal. For his big one.

Yeah, like what is the Clinton-Kane big one? What does that mean big one? Because people say that obviously I kind of get it but like what is it? What's it from? What's it originate from?

To be, for me it originates from the canceled podcast. Oh, really? Yeah, but I know Tana gets her vocabulary from i don't know really random places so yeah that's a good like the big one because i always see people like this is oh they did a big one yes that's like aura too what's that like oh i got my aura points jeff has a watch called aura you never seen that no like how many aura points is this i see this all of over TikTok. It's A-U-R-A. I know what an aura is. Like your aura is like, you know, the colors

that's like around you or whatever. So it's like a, usually it's like a positive. Yeah. It's almost like karma, like karma points. So I guess aura points. Oh, okay. I see people say it. Okay, aura points. I never knew. And then he named it Aura Watch. So I was like, well, what's aura? Like I've seen this everywhere. Jack Rice pictures resurfaced. Yes.

Pop Crave got them. Oh, wait. They did? Yes. Where'd you get them? Did you get them on email? I got an email. They're like, I'm trying to get a hold of Oscar to send these to him too.

Oh, my God. That's so funny. But they just sent me Pop Crave screenshots. I was like, okay, Pop Crave has them. Oh, my God. I need to find it. They got the photos. I don't know who's at Pop Crave, but we need them on Hot Topics. I know.

We actually do. Now that we – we should make a list of all the people we want on Hot Topics now that we're doing two a week. I know. We have a lot of options. Yeah a list of all the people we want on Hot Topics now that we're doing two a week I know we have a lot of options I mean Harry Daniels knows Pop Crave

of course he does of course he does he says Pop Crave is down to collaborate well Harry Daniels is coming on soon so we'll

we'll ask him yeah we'll get to the bottom of it we want Be Better Pop Crave I like shout out Sloan I'm trying to get Sloan hooks on here

shout out Trish Crave I was gonna to say that. Did you follow them too? Yeah, I got my own little. Did they tweet about you following them? I saw you. You're like, Oscar Gracie follows Trish Crave. You're like, that's so true.

I love them. They actually have a lot of interaction, Trish Crave. I'm like kind of gagged by it. Because I mean, Stan accounts are just like so smart. Most of them. Yeah. Like, because they have graphics and everything. I'm like, they're so committed.

They really are. They're on it. Who is that? Well, nowadays, you know, in the AI age, it's easy to do. That's true. It's one website. We'll have Trish Crave on here too. I just want to know the people behind these accounts sometimes.

I'm always like, which like, again, kudos. Love it. Thank you for being on my side. But also like, that's dedication. It is. Yeah. That's what you're side but also like that's dedication it is yeah it's like a documentary on its own you know right stan accounts and anonymous people even those drama channels and t accounts and stuff you're just like the ones that don't show their face you're just like who are you uh-huh how are you doing this so fast yeah spill sash like before she did her face reveal was like wow like who is i like the um morgan adams conspiracy like that one oh right yeah that made sense because it Before she did her Facebook reel, I was like, wow, like, who is – like, the Morgan Adams conspiracy.

Like, that one was crazy. Yeah. That made sense because it would make sense that – because she's with Shane. And, like, so in the know. Yeah. Shane's, like, a gossip channel for sure. Like, he definitely could be behind so many accounts because he just, like, looks at everything. I mean, again, I haven't seen him in, like, five years. But, like, when I did know him, he was –

Yeah, like, back in the day. Oh, my God. He would see all the gossip, all the drama, like, instantly. Yeah. I used to be – when I was, like, younger, I used to be, like, obsessed with, like, all the – like, the i used to be when i was like younger i used to be like obsessed with like all the tea like um um like the guru gossiper age oh yeah oh god i used to check myself all the time and then which was like the worst thing ever because they were so mean they would like have the meanest names my my username was blonde sandal form j so it'd be like uh obese doll for sandwiches like it was and they'd always change the name there was like

a hundred threads about me it was like reddit and i was just so obsessed that's why i do not go on reddit good or bad like he'll saw i'm like where do you see this like reddit i'll i'll it's fine if someone shows me something but i can't get on it because i just i remember i would be such a spiral like and i couldn't help myself like i would refresh every hour like every half hour to see what they said about because they were updating it a lot you know so i was just like so obsessed with it but i just like i can't do that anymore yeah it's a lot i think i was always just so interested to know like what everyone was up to like the yeah because it was like who are the fowlers like dating or blah blah i miss them the like the ellen blair era was like top notch or like ingrid like following like

ingrid and like luke or whatever like who's dating who blah blah blah and they would see everything yeah they would see so much like kind of like you said on the reddit is like um when they're like oh Addison's very fun like how do people see that stuff you know what I mean it's cool like again I really wish I could see my own reddit especially the nice ones like I wish I could like see it but again I just know I go on a slippery slope because even if I'm looking like people I don't like like I used to look up David Dobrik's reddit which was always dead like it was always dead like when I used to go there I had like 50,000 I don't know if it's dollars or 40,000 or whatever but like no one ever posts about him I'm like and this was maybe like I think I stopped reddit like a

year ago so I was like god no one really posts about David on there because I was like you know I don't keep up with him so I was like I was just curious I was like what's happening but nothing was happening unless he's just boring that's what I always thought I was like at least I'm entertaining because people post about me so much on googorots for us I was like well at least I'm not boring yeah at least you're being because people post about me so much on Google Gossipers. I was like, well, at least I'm not boring. Yeah. At least you're being talked about, I guess. Yeah.

Like every little thing analyzed. You want Mrs. Whistledown to be interested in you? That is very true. They are the original Lady Whistledown. She's lady, not miss. Miss is a young girl, right? So now she's a lady. Yeah.

Lady Whistledown. Sorry, Colin. Lady Whistledown. It really is like, I mean, I guess like the count the canceled roundup over here we love it i know thank god they posted an episode well my episode but i mean i was like we missed the episode we need to know what's going on we need the tea we need to commentate um uh lila called out tana and brooke randomly and liability oh well okay so i think someone was telling us that like lilability's kind of filmed in advance so was this like a new this was a newer one yeah

because the title was about the wedding about the vlogging at the wedding or whatever i think so yeah okay yeah um because they were reacting to lila and saucy were reacting to Lila and Stassi were reacting to Tana and Brooke reacting to Tana and Brooke on Lila-bility oh my god now we're now we're reacting to all of that oh man you need Jimmy to make a diagram yeah a blow chart or something yeah um but Jimmy with the mug cam Lila was like going in on them and saucy actually they were really they're really going in i think it was to like you know get talked about which at work we're talking about but um it's also a slow news day but yes it is a slow news day well it's a double news day for us we just had one but she was they were coming for tana and

brooke for like saying that um they jokedoked about their interview with Lila being filmed 10 months earlier. Because they had already like, you know, announced their friendship separation or whatever. And then that interview came out. And then so Tana and Brooke, all they really said it was, it was just funny that it was filmed 10 months ago. That was in my episode, right? They talked about that on canceled like after like separate no this was they reacted to it a while ago because it came out like a couple weeks ago oh okay yeah because i think they told me that too i think they said that it was like filmed like it wasn't a joke i

think it was actually filmed literally yeah but they were just like joking about how old it was or whatever yeah and that's probably all they said but then lila was going in on like you know they wanted to invest in lilability and that's why it took said. But then Lila was going in on like, you know, they wanted to invest in Lila-bility. And that's why it took 10 months. And how dare you? Like, we invited you here. And we had a lovely conversation. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Before their friendship ended. It was filmed before their friendship. The interview was filmed before their friendship. So that's why the conversation was lovely. I actually feel bad. Like, we did an episode of Lila. And I think it's good. People call it out and be like this is crappy whatever but I kind of feel bad when people like dog pile on her so much you know what I mean

I mean I know she doesn't do herself any favors by kind of being combative for sure but I think she's also I don't know I don't want to use young because she's not like she's not a baby she's 26 but it's like you know it can feel like a lot and then sometimes you're like you're like you just get defensive and I will lot and then sometimes you're like you're like

you just get defensive and i will just say that like when people bought like i doubled down it's like the the distance you have identity like my initial video was like so sincere that i really thought i had this and like watching anthony padilla's thing on this i was like oh maybe this is something i have and then when everyone came to like attack me i kind of just doubled down and went like i started like being you know trolling and she does give me baby trish vibes yeah well that's okay. Not baby Trish vibes. I know.

I really feel like I always say this. Like there's like a generation of people that were like raised by like the Jaclyn Hills and then there's like a generation that was raised by the Trisha Paytas. It's like the JoJo and Lila. You know what I mean? So I take a little bit of accountability. Lilability. Lilability for this.

And she's always been cool with me and stuff like that. I've always been cool with her. So I do feel like a little bit. I kind of feel sometimes like bad about it because you know i think she gets the point like she's kind of screwed up a bunch of times but she gets a little defensive especially you know and maybe too like you know you think the beefs is like something people do okay we're going back and forth this is our thing do you know what i mean like maybe that's where it's coming from i didn't see the clip but was she like did she actually seem offended or more was just like,

we're going to talk about this? I think Stassi also kind of went in on it. So she seemed kind of like upset by it. But then I went, like went back to see like what Tana and Brooke even said,

but all they really just joked about was it just being filmed like a long time ago, which is kind of funny. It was filmed like almost a year ago. Yeah.

So I think that was just more, because I think they told me to and it wasn't like ever to be mean. It was just like, oh, we just filmed it like so long ago. And yeah, I guess, I'm interested that was just more – because I think they told me to and it wasn't like ever to be mean. It was just like, oh, we just filmed it like so long ago. And yeah, I guess – interesting that they wanted to like – what does that mean, invest

in it? Maybe they wanted it as like an unwell sort of thing. That's what I was thinking. Which would be smart. I always think people should do that when – because obviously a lot of people know Lila from Tana. So I feel like that is kind of smart if she were to do that. Like if they did do that.

But obviously the friendship ended or whatever. Yeah. But I was thinking that too. I'm like, I want a network. I don't know anybody. But I'm like, I would love obviously, the friendship ended or whatever. But I was thinking that too. I'm like, I want a network. I don't know anybody, but I'm like, I would love a network of podcasts, you know?

But I love, like, her explanation. Lila was like, you know, movies take years to make and the Taj Mahal wasn't built in a day. Like, it took years

to make that. See, I think that's kind of troll. That's kind of camp. Same, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I think, right? I think so, too. I don't think she's comparing

herself to the Taj Mahal. Yeah, I think the, or like, you know, the Hunger Games or something. Like, I don't right? I think so, too. I don't think she's comparing herself to the Taj Mahal. Yeah, I think the, or, like, you know, the Hunger Games or something. Like, I don't know. I think the line between trolling and serious is, like, so blurry with her sometimes. I guess, like, very you. Like, sometimes people couldn't tell, you know? And I think it gets amplified or triggered when you're, like, in hot water.

You're like, well, let me just troll so people don't know who I really am. Like, was that me trolling at the wedding or is that really me? You know what I mean? Like, I think maybe that's where it's coming from yeah but I think like I don't know like getting people mad I think used to like be a better strategy I guess for like um basically like pre-2020 pre-sum up cancellations like you know being a little trolly like got you views and you could kind of like consistently get views but now people just get mad and then they turn off. That's true. They turn off.

And it's also just something that follows whoever. Even me doing it pre-2020. It really does just follow me forever. So I always just think it's a bad look. I talk about that pearl girl doing it. Lila's a little more cute and fun doing it or whatever. But yeah, trolling definitely. Also, there's a big difference because you always did it about yourself to yourself.

Yeah, that's true. I always say that. And there's people that do it to others. And then it's a bit problematic because you always did it about yourself to yourself. Yeah, that's true. I always say that. And there's people that do it to others. And then it's a bit problematic. People get more, you know. That's true. More upset. And there's actually somebody that got hurt by it, like the wedding.

Like there's somebody that actually was at the end of that troll. Right. Wasn't like going around to people's. So it was a prank or, you know. Yeah. So yeah, there's a big difference. Yeah. I mean, I guess so, right.

I don't think the wedding was a troll, but I think maybe that, like, triggered her to start, like, trolling a little more. Or the Tana fallout, maybe because people were constantly harassing her. So she's like, let me just give them the troll they want or something. You know what I mean? I don't know. That's what I'm – and are people – I mean, and she has a podcast, too. You know, you kind of think, like, oh – I don't know.

It's kind of like how we are. I don't know who – like, maybe with the BFFs, not that we were ever beefing with them. But, like, for a minute, you know, you kind of have, like, a back and forth. Oh, yeah. Right? I don't know who like maybe with the bfs not that we were ever beefing with them but like for a minute you know you kind of have like a back and forth and so yeah right i don't know did we ever use them in a title maybe not i don't know if we did probably not i was in their title which i think is uh slay i was like wow i think drew monson said it's like it's always kind of cool when you like think oh my name gets views you know what i mean yeah so i'll take it but uh yeah i mean youa, I mean, you know, keep talking about it, I guess. I don't know.

Maybe she'll talk about us next. Like, oh my God. Laila, I always love you. We're cool, girl. Yeah. But when something's like such a big topic that you have to comment on, I think she knows like by now like that obviously was not the move. Which – or the wedding part?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think especially once like Alex and Culver Culver are, like, saying it too. Like, you kind of just have to, like, concede. Yeah, which could also, like, trigger her. That's why I think when her video, you know, it was my gift of love and, like, they should have talked to me. Like, I feel like that's a little triggering because it's, like, embarrassing a little

bit, right? Yeah, I see. Which some – to this morning, my makeup artist was like, you should do the I'm embarrassed sound because I'm embarrassed from inside out or something. Is that a new emotion? Oh. There's a sound that's like,

I'm embarrassed. I mean, I guess it's a pink person in a gray hoodie. But then I looked up the embarrassed emotion and it's a very large. Yes.

I used to say I look like embarrassed because I'm pink and I'm large today. Because I was like, that's cute. Yeah, I'll do it. And then I was like,

oh, okay. That would be my emotion. I don't watch inside out because I don't really watch cartoons. But I was like, we cute yeah I'll do it and I was like oh okay that would be my emotion I don't watch inside out because I don't really watch cartoons but I was like we're talking about all the emotions they were giving them to me and I'm like I think embarrassed would be my biggest emotion for sure like I get embarrassed I can remember things I was embarrassed for when I was eight years old like I will always remember when I've been embarrassed and like I hate being embarrassed and I get embarrassed easily so I think that's my biggest one what's your biggest emotion definitely anxiety anxiety was the main character of inside out main character energy over there she was anxiety was

going through it like she was like yeah um who was her voice maya hawk from stranger things oh that's fitting her voice yes and like the little depiction of like anxiety like she just looked like a quirky orange girl and i was like this is kind of maya hawk vibes like i don't know she has like like 70s like quirky aesthetic yeah this is so specific but there was like a video of her when she went to the met gala not this year last year and um she it was like almost like a not even saying like as a shade like it almost looked like a toilet paper dress like it was like a long like strip of fabric like white train and she was like the way she walked out of the hotel like and everyone was like Maya Maya

and then she just like flipped her hair and like strutted into the bus and then it was like the long train of like toilet paper and it was like

a whole thing of like she really thought she was eating which I think she was kind of eating but um I love even whether you're not

or not eating when you just think you're eating you know what you know I think that's everything you know what that is actually

so true yeah like watch yeah she like you know, I think that's everything. You know what? That is actually so true. Like, watch. Yeah. Like, you know. Yes. I think you have to. She probably felt it, too. She probably felt it.

You know what? Because people were saying it was, like, kind of cringy. You actually flipped me on it. Now I'm like, yes. Even if it's cringy, as long as you believe it yourself and you are, like, just embodying it, it's a serve. Dedicate. Yeah, all the way. That's what I think, too. That's what I would do. Because you have to feel good. like believe it yourself and you are like just embodying it it's a serve dedicate yeah all the way that's what I think too

that's what I would do like because you have to feel good like if you're at the Met Gala you probably feel good about yourself no one feels bad about themselves and honestly toilet paper is such a serve

wouldn't that be so cool if like the dress was designed by Charmin or something like that yeah and I have my bling toilet paper okay next year at the Met I have my bling toilet paper that would be so cute

an all toilet paper dress I love it I would be into that yeah i love it there's very few uh plus size representation at the met me and lizzo lizzo commented on my tiktok i saw that yes i love that you saw that oh my god i was dead she doesn't follow me either i was like did that just come up cross on her thing because that was yeah she loved the hair clips amazon girl as amazon um but dr miami like that tiktok of top of my own like got like weirdly people that don't even follow me commenting. I was like, yeah, Dr. Miami

was commenting. I was like, I don't know. It was very cool. Maybe they thought it was really Chapel. Maybe they thought it was her. Maybe. You did sell it. Thanks. I really tried. But oh, I love, well, you know.

Always wishing her the best so genuinely always generally because again I do feel like I mean obviously Tana and Brooke have like there were more personal issues like I don't know it but I'm obviously they know her personally so there was more like just personal issues and I think they handled it what I can see Tana and Brooke just said like you know the friendship fell out whatever and it seemed like Lila the same way they're not really like talking about it which is like good and classy um but in general I think she just maybe gets like you know i don't know maybe i just have a soft spot for her i feel like there's certain people i'm just a little more like softer on because i'm just like oh that's just lila that's his jojo a little soft spot for jojo shoes sometimes me too as much as like i um give jojo

crap i still like i know that she's smart and I know that she has the ability to serve. And I know that her, like, moment of, like, artistic slay is coming. I agree. At some point. I think, like, she's going to ride this, like, you know, cringy bad girl wave. But I think the next one, she's going to really shock everyone and be, like, she's going to, like, let her hair down. And she's going to change the way she dresses. And she's going to, like, really slay. And be more, like, authentic. I feel like you do predict this kind of stuff. Like, you's going to, like, let her hair down and she's going to change the way she dresses and she's going to, like, really slay.

And be more, like, authentic. I feel like you do predict this kind of stuff. Like, you predict things. I just feel it. Yeah. You predicted Octopus to be huge. Uh-huh. Like, first episode, you're like, he's going to be big.

Yeah. And I was like, I don't know if you said it out loud, but I remember you said it to me. Like, no, that guy's going to blow up. Yes. I'm like, really? Like, he does, like, impressions of, like, Abraham Lincoln or something. I was like, okay, that's random. And he did.

Look at you. You predicted that. You predicted Taylor and Travis, her athlete that her athlete era you're right you are very good at the predictions and i'm good at predicting who's not like i could have clocked clinton kane like years ago zach saying yeah right well you know well maybe one day i know someone's like trisha sometimes defends the wrong people or she plays devil advocate for the wrong people. I'm like, sometimes I just try to see both sides.

Look, I've always seen Brooke. And like, Clint is like, obviously, in my opinion, a psychopath. But I think like, I try. I'm like, okay, well, in my opinion, I thought he had a good song. But yeah, you're right. Maybe sometimes I shouldn't. Another person I have a soft spot for that maybe, not a soft spot, but maybe people thought I had a hot take on is the – do we talk about James Charles?

Wait, do I have deja vu? We didn't talk about him yet. On Patreon, did we? No. Oh, not on Patreon. It was – I think your episode canceled. You talked about – oh, and Jeff's episode. Oh, that's where it was.

Okay. So, yeah, I did see some people. There was like a little clip of me defending James and sometimes she defends the wrong people. And it's like sometimes maybe, but sometimes I get a little soft spot like because we just came out of Dramageddon where I just think – Yes, you're in the 2019. Yeah, that's where I have – that's where I'm like, God, I wish I could go back to 2019 and have sympathy for James when no one else did because maybe like I always say that

started his villain story. But I have – I feel sad about it. And then even the little clip with Jeff you know I kind of felt a little bit only because I've also been in that situation obviously the reverse way like you know where like maybe a gay guy pretended to flirt with me or whatever or like me for whatever reason but you like truly feel it right you're like oh I hooked up with this person I kissed this person whatever like maybe they like me so I get where it was coming from so like I have uh sometimes I just defend people when I feel like maybe they've been hurt.

Because I think two things can be true, right? You can be an awful, like an icky person, which might… Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. It doesn't mean because we're not just canceling somebody, like they're awful all the time. Every decision they made was bad. No, there might have been a few times that they were right or they were hurt. Yeah, but I do feel with – I think him deleting that like apology video where he said, yeah, this – you know, I did text him when he was like underrated and then like deleting it.

So it's like he took accountability but then deleted it and then acted like that never happened and stuff like that. I was like, okay, that's kind of – Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, because like I think he did that one. Then he deleted that one then he deleted that one and then the one that came up i think he had another one where he i don't know if it was the same one or a different one where he said like these people like lied about their age like i asked him and they said they were 18 and then

they ended up not and i know that for sure there was certain circumstances where he was getting like baited by guys just to be able to like have the screenshot and like yeah look at jean shot you know yeah but out of like i do believe it was baited but there's so many other like kate like circumstances that i'm like some of these kids like have to be telling the truth like they can't all be fake right like there's just so many i mean they're definitely like there was definitely one he was like yeah i should have checked the age yeah so i think he knows and i think he he said in interviews that he likes young looking guys. And it's just like if that's the case, you just really got to check it.

Also, when you're famous too – or like I guess not famous but like have a following, you just got to be careful in general like talking to fans. It's kind of like – anyways. I saw James' other thing now is like – because he got in trouble for like screaming about Joe Biden in a TikTok and then like he had to delete it because he was just like oh he deleted it yeah mikhail called him out the guy from the guy who played the wheelchair kid and glee yeah everyone was really coming for him say you know nothing about politics i'll say nothing i was like oh i want to know what is happening here yeah it's like if you're gonna screw it like scream about it and like come from like a place

of like authority like you know what you're talking about like you kind of have to be like unclocked was he in the wrong yeah because he just blamed like you know what you're talking about like you kind of have to be like unclockable. Was he in the wrong? Yeah because he just blamed like Joe Biden for stuff that like technically like just he couldn't do like it was technically like Donald Trump stuff. I don't know whatever. Yeah he's like he goes oh my gosh Biden just said he would

reinstate Roe versus Wade if he was president. You are president! You know! And I was like T that's good point actually and then I was like I saw the other people and I was like, okay, there's judicial branches and checks and balances. But it sounded convincing. I was like, that's true. That's actually a child's thought.

It doesn't work like that at all. Honestly, it did make sense to me. I was like, that's actually kind of accurate. He is the president. It's the Supreme Court. Well, not everyone knows about Supreme Court. Okay, do you know about this too? I don't know.

Okay. So – Well, I know the – I know like – I know very like the surface level of things. Okay. So Trump is the one who banned – Yes. Took it away. Yeah.

Yeah. And it like – it bleeds over into like Biden's like term because like the Supreme Court is mostly like really conservative Republicans or whatever. And those – the – there's people that Trump reinstated. I think he reinstated a couple in there. So that's why the majority is like Republicans. So it's not like... Yeah, because they're there for life.

The judges in the Supreme Court are there for life. And you only have a once in a lifetime opportunity to submit somebody to it. Hold on. And on Trump's watch, basically two have expired, and he had two to reinstate. They died? Does expired mean they died? They have to. Why did you say expired?

I don't know. That's what came to my mind. She expired. I can see them as... Okay. So anyway, so he turned the whole court into a more conservative court. And they made that choice. So what do we do about that?

How do we, nothing can be done. It's like lottery. It's just a matter of luck if you get to reinstate the judge, you know, if one democratic or in power that it happens or not. Yeah, it's wild. It's a draw of the luck. It's crazy. Yeah. And there's like arguments about like expanding it, whatever.'t know but that's the thing like i would never go on

tiktok and scream about politics i'm like i don't know like i would right yeah like i i wouldn't go on like the hassan show and be like yeah it's on like supreme court like what's the tea like you know right i wouldn't have a conversation with him about like the judicial branches because i just don't know that much so it's like yeah i i don't know why james decided to get in his activist era but i think we got to back up like let's just work on like you know right the the course correcting all the other like scandals before we get into like you know the activism of it all i think this is like one instance where like you shouldn't just think you ate you know what i mean like he had the confidence but maybe and he thought he ate

but it was like because honestly i thought so too i really it was convincing but what that's why like he came across so like authoritative um so because he was so angry he's so frustrated at biden and i feel the frustration and like i was just like what and then i went to look at his other tiktoks but i thought that's his thing now like he is yelling and like upset about things and his it's TikTok. Wow, rebrand. He was screaming at his car. He was screaming about his Tesla. Tesla's telling me I can go from Palm Springs.

And I'm like, what? That's like his new. No, that's right. We saw that one. He's like, you guys, how does this make sense? It's 9% battery, but also like,

and he's like showing, I have no idea how Tesla's working. I was just like, what is happening? He's like, I'm coming back from Palm Springs and this doesn't make sense. Like why would it be an hour and a half if it's like with those old mad

problems if a train drives in this speed and that distance when will you get there like it's just like an estimate like you know if you have the air on if you're like it's how fast you like yeah and you're also like sitting in your car wasting battery right now like because you're just like sitting in park making this weird tick tock you should know that the ac actually does it with gas cars too i never knew that yeah i remember i would always turn the ac off if we were running low on gas and i was like what and like why malibu no did i say my my mom oh your mom i was like wow she's driving now she's in the front queen live for her i'm all about being ego-friendly these days. Now that I do have a daughter,

I was like, you know what? Let's try and save the environment a little bit. Period, yeah. I don't know what can be done. Oh, because, oh, well, they're not sponsoring this one, but Liquid Death,

they murder your thirst and kill plastic bottles. Yeah, because you can recycle the cans. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. So I was like, you know what?

That kind of makes sense, actually. So Liquid Death's not sponsoring today but I like that they are a sponsor because they're doing something that's good for the movie

yeah you know trying to keep this earth around a little longer I guess and save the dolphins and whales

all of it the turtles yes the turtles I think no one cares about the turtles because the straws are back everywhere everyone has plastic

straws again but there's probably like plastic bottles in the ocean that might work like Bretman Rock was really going for the turtles

for a long time but I mean there's only so much Bretman Rock was really going for the turtles for a long time. But I mean, there's only so much Bretman Rock can do. He follows me now on TikTok. Live for that. Yeah. Should we have him on? He doesn't come much though over to the mainland.

Yeah, he doesn't. He should. I love him. He's so beautiful. I saw a photo of his boyfriend. Oh my God. Oh really? What's he look like? Like just tall, ripped, like huge, like back shoulders, like six packpack like muscular ripped guy and brettman's

also like ripped yeah no his body's crazy he's so strong he's got that long luscious hair he's actually beautiful yeah like so gorge and like living just that we're talking earlier the meaning of life like brettman rock has it nailed down oh yeah truly minding his business great like looks good great family fun family yeah has those little animals beautiful house beautiful boyfriend yeah he's got it figured out the gardening and the farm life i mean that's the best you can do in life oh for sure i know i would love to just live in hawaii but you're like we're not supposed to go there right if we're not islanders we're just not supposed to go live over there i don't know it's a whole that's another whole thing

you need to be a billionaire you have to be like zuckerberg oprah you know they're the wrong billionaires like the oprah's like burn down a whole you know neighborhood allegedly or something i don't know bb rex are going off on the music industry she's another one that was when we first started she like reached out was like i want to come on the podcast i was like absolutely yes and then we kind of lost touch but then when i had elvis she like was like she was like literally the first person to be like congratulations like i don't text so i love baby rex says she's in the news again because um she says she's going to expose the music industry i wish she would honestly i read a thread i love twitter for this reason the thread the one you

sent me like chapel like i love threads where you can like really go into detail and maybe you sent to me the bb rex one of just like all the times that the music industry just totally like failed her because she's like this like song like a singer songwriter she's been for like so many years i guess since like 2013 but the one that stood out to me was do you remember when britney spears performed with g easy uh-huh and they and i didn't even know it was a bb rex song she did a song it's like me myself and i i have no idea that was bb rex's part she didn't even know they were performing it they didn't tell her and she's like probably because they were scared i was gonna say no so they didn't tell me until were performing it. They didn't tell her. And she's like, probably because they were scared I was going to say no. So they didn't tell me until like after.

She's obviously it's Britney. So whatever. But like basically didn't get like any money or anything for it because they didn't like run it by her or something like that. I'm like, that's so because that was like her song. Yeah. And I was like, wow. And she was like, yeah, they didn't.

And then the stuff with Jeezy that she went out last time. I don't know. There was just so many things where they didn't push her album. They didn't push like they didn't give her a budget for music videos. So she paid for her own music videos. Like, it's actually kind of weird how much they, like, suppressed her and stuff like that and still to this day. And she did say, and I even tweeted her, I was like, girl, do you want to come on the

podcast now or whatever? Because she said a lot of people have been asking for interviews. She goes, so if you talk about me, I just mentioned her music. So her new music is in the drama, which I love that. She's in the drama. She started the drama. Or she's in the drama. She's in the drama.

You know how the music industry started it? She's in it. So if you want to expose the music industry, you can come on Just Trish. Because we love an exposing segment. Yeah. I remember, like, she wrote the Eminem Rihanna song, Monster. What? Yeah.

And there was, like, her own version. I guess she did the demo of it. Oh. And I remember on, like, the Tumblr days, like, hearing that. And I really liked her version of it. That's the first time I, like, heard but it's crazy like people are she's another one like stands can be like shady towards like oh bb whatever but like she actually has written so many like hit songs same as like a megan trainer like yeah like people want to like clown on their

discography or something but then if you see their writing credits like they've written a lot of like number one songs yeah that may not be theirs but they're the ones that are behind it you know songwriting is crazy too like that's like you wrote monster with rihanna and eminem like that's crazy song yeah and that was like her first like one two you know what i mean like her first like big writing credit is like a number one like rihanna eminem two biggest artists of the time you know wow that is wild i didn't know that either i was first aware of her i think the first episode of this podcast you said something about her boyfriend and i didn't really i didn't know really i guess i heard that i knew her songs i guess maybe i didn't know her name or something like that and i was like immediately on her side because i was

like oh this who fashion is her and i'm like she does get fashion when she's like literally not fat again and i'm like this is so bizarre to me people say i was making trainer too they were like isn't this crazy that in 2014 like this was considered like the fat girl yeah yeah kirby she was the face of like fat which is crazy it's like positivity yeah she's like i'm in a corset and like so like tiny waist it is wild they know and that's we're still we're still there 10 years later in 2024 nicola cocklin is like the face of the plus size yeah oh interracial oh my god the fat girl with the ass like what like she's literally anyways i guess that's good i mean you know whatever i guess there's different body types in a size zero which is you know we appreciate but

to call someone like fat or plus size and stuff like that is like okay we're like going a little nuts yeah yeah i feel for bb though i hope she's kind of like a tanner it's like whenever they do expose everything it'll be like a huge yeah you know because they like bb has gone through a lot like just as a songwriter she's been in so many like writing rooms she's written for so many artists i remember too there was like i forget which song was it maybe it was like hey mama or something i think with like nikki minaj but then that was another one where like she was on it and her voice is on it but at first they wouldn't put her name on it it was like they just put like the bigger like nikki and someone else i forgot who else was on it so weird yeah and then like she had to like bring it up and then they finally like

added her featuring bb rex or whatever oh my god it was like her voice was on it like that's wild yeah that is so wild to me like why wouldn't she get the credit especially like now that she has kind of like made a name for herself she's out there people know who she is like why are they still like suppressing her like it's so weird sad and she still just she still writes obviously she's still writing yeah she's still like releasing music and stuff too so wow i love bb like i said even before i knew what song she's saying i was like i love this girl like i love her and um yeah and she congratulated me when i gave birth which i was like it was so had her in front of me from literally like last September. And it was literally the first text I got someone saying congratulations.

That's just me. Yeah. I was like, what? It was – that was what I was most excited about for so long. I was like, oh my God, I'll be breastfeeding on the podcast. Because I really did start deep diving when I thought like it was a possibility. And then it ended up – she was getting really busy and stuff like that. But I deep dived into her so much last year.

And I was like, oh, I really like this girl. Just everything about her. And just – I don't know. Also just like her TikToks. And she does seem like very just like like, I really like this girl. Just everything about her and just, I don't know. Also just like her TikToks and she does seem like very just like real, like just a normal person. I know everyone's a normal person, but she seems super real, you know? I was just like just

chilling and hanging out. Do you know Lily Allen? I know. That song's At first I feel bad for a while and I just smile. Okay, yeah. She's British. Yes. Her brother's on Game of Thrones. Yeah. I think I remember that. Oh, wow. That is some deep lore okay yeah she's British yes her brother was on Game of Thrones yeah oh I think I remember that

oh wow that is some deep lore that you know I knew because I was like oh his sister's Lily Allen again I told you I like this guy

like Game of Thrones I like dug deep into it was he the one that got his or he yes chop the spoiler I guess

spoiler why do they why do they do that I don't know Game of Thrones is wild though they just slice and a dice over there. That was crazy.

Everyone likes that show. That should be a red flag. If someone says they like Game of Thrones, be like, why? I mean, it is a really popular show. But like kind of sick, right? Right. I guess. I don't know.

Yeah, I guess. I guess it's about like Indommer or something. I don't know. Lily Allen. So, yeah. So she just joined Olaf specifically for her feet pics. Oh, actually? Because everyone always says they want to join.

Like, Chloe's like, I want to join for feet pics, but no one actually does. She actually did. Yeah. Because she is married to David Harbour, who is, like, he was the sheriff on Stranger Things. Yes, I did. Yeah. And I guess, like, in their vacation photos, like, she had her, like, feet on his, like, Instagram story.

And then she ended up just like posting herself like her feet herself and said la dolce fita and then she put a little link to like her of and she's selling uh feet pics on there like actually do you know how much um what kind of feet pics are we seeing is it just her feet or is she doing stuff with her feet oh ten dollars a month that's not terrible okay i wonder what she's making does it say um oh gosh she only has seven posts up so far um but it has like 100 likes on her post so 10 and like you know on of not everyone is like engaged like you know likes or comments right sure wait how many likes was it she gets like 100 likes and she has a subscription is 10 a month i feel like it's what probably like double the likes is what it normally is you think

like subscribers to likes oh yeah because i feel like not everyone likes like they just view right right I guess 100 I think that's pretty good especially for feet stuff yeah for only seven photos was she how popular is she I guess I don't know like her popularity like is she I don't know like the scale of popularity either I think I mean being married to David Harbour he's kind of he's like in Marvel and Stranger Things, which is like the two. What's he in Marvel? He is in the – he's with Florence Pugh in a movie. She's everywhere too.

Yeah. Yeah, I like her. So I think he's – especially the nerd demographic I imagine between those two. That's true. You're married to that person. They're like, ooh, I get to see your wife's feet. But then also – to me when people say, oh, I would show my feet, I'm like, okay, but that's not what people want to see.

Like maybe there is a small like niche, but I would feel like the majority of people want to see sex on OF. I guess. I don't know. Or not. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe there's a big market for it. I don't know.

Or his feet. Someone commented because like on your Instagram stories, you always post your feet or something. Do I? On Patreon, yes. You always – dogs are out. Really? People are like, you should be like selling that always, dogs are out. Really? And people are like,

why don't you, you should be like selling that. Like someone clocked, someone said that. Really? Yeah. I guess I never view feet as sexual. I think.

I don't either, but. Yeah. I guess I did post my feet the other day, but now that I'm like, oh, that's like kind of weird. Like I literally was just like showing my feet,

but I was like, it's just not like sexual. Like if I show my toes, getting a pedicure or something. I think it was a girly, it was from the perspective of a girly saying that you should like sell them. Oh, like they're trying to help me monetize it.

Yes, yes. They're looking out for that. Well, I'm not in the market to monetize off sexuality anymore. But, you know, more power to everybody. I've been there, done that. And I don't think my feet are the desired kind because they're called – someone told me they're called flintstone feet where they're like short and flat and that's not the desired look.

Oh, yeah. They're like long toes. I don't think I have like the desired look either. What's where they're like short and flat and that's not the desired look oh yeah they like long toes like the desire what's yours also like wide and like yeah i don't think the width is what people are looking for maybe maybe the narrow and the arch i feel like yeah those long toes yeah like the margot robbie everyone always talks about her it's because of like everything she's in though she's always shows her really yeah uma thurman was like that too in uh all quentin tarantino's movies like always feet who was what did i just see oh halsey was doing like a a parody of like early 2000s and she like said like go rate my um whatever the feet website or

whatever she was like oh what is it i forget what it's called. Wicked Feet or something. Something like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you like rate them or something. Was she showing her feet? No, she was just saying like, go rate my feet five stars or something. I don't know. I saw something with Halsey recently too. She had like pink hair. Yes.

What was that for? So she's teasing. She's in the new movie Maxine. Ah. The Mia Goth movie. And then she's also like in the midst of like a new era. But she's like covering britney spears like lucky and like britney followed her so people are like oh maybe they're collabing or

something i don't know yes right that's what i heard that's what i heard i saw it on tiktok and i was like wait is this britney spears lucky so but she's singing it though yeah sing it yeah love that she's using it oh my god that'd be crazy if they came out with music i know and they've like interacted before like a couple years ago like just being sweet so you like halsey i do like her she's really sweet she's another one almost like a bb rex that like got a lot of hate like it's like you know cyclical like she came out she was really big she was like the alternative girl and then people were like hitting on her because like her voice is too alternative and oh like yeah is she the girl at the mall that's singing yeah that's really her yes that's her because i always saw that go around.

And then I was like, oh my God, I can't believe this Halsey. But Halsey's huge. Yeah, it got to start from somewhere. What was the song she was singing? I forget what it was called. I just saw it the other day. There it is. It's the time of me already.

The voice inside my head. It's the time on me already a voice inside my head I like it she's like mimicking him which I like she's just like standing like sitting that's what I was like that doesn't even seem like her cause it doesn't even look like a performer it just looks like this

alternative kid that's like watch me she's just like you know it just looks like someone who wouldn't be good but she's she's cute I I like it. That's so funny. She gave a verse, a chorus. That's wild. If someone asked me to sing in the mod, I'd be like, absolutely not.

You are insane. Really? Yes. If someone came up and was like, please, can you sing I Love You, Jesus? Absolutely not. That's so weird. You wouldn't sing I Love You, Jesus. Absolutely not.

First of all, one, it's just uncomfortable. Like, you're right in front of me me and they're recording me with the phone. I'm like, I can't even do it now. That's so weird. It's so weird. Never. It's like, even like FaceTime, I'm like, it's just weird. But then to be like, can you sing your own?

Like, that's, it's very much giving Hailey Bailey asking Joseph Quinn to say like, Hailey, wake up. It's like, what? Like, I think it happened to another TikToker with Austin Butler. He wanted him to sing with him on the red carpet. Oh, yes. And he's like, how about you sing? Like, it's just, what? Like, that's his craft.

That's what he's nominated for an Oscar for. He's not going to just do it for you on the red carpet like a monkey, you know, like a performing monkey. Like, it's just, I don't know. I love that she did it, though, is what I'm saying. And not only did she do it, she gave chorus, verse, outro. And I was like, yeah, that and i was like yeah that's right no that's so cringe it's because i think that's what harry daniels made his whole career off is just

being cringe just people singing at you like that's the most awkward thing i don't care if you're like my favorite singer i don't care if you're the weekend if the weekend was like i'm gonna just sing a little song to you and just started singing i'd be like no yeah what but you always want to sing with people that's so different that's like we're having a key it's fun like you know we talk about a song like oh my god we love the song like sitting together but if i'm like if i if i see the weekend i'm like oh can you see like blinding lights like that's weird asking him asking him and also in public in public making content it's like on the red carpet i see austin butler oh can you sing a little can't help falling in love like

i don't know there's just everything about it's cringy for them for you what if austin butler asked you to sing on the red carpet yeah but that's so different right he's like sing a little Elvis with me baby i'm like yeah it's an honor of course that's what i'm saying but like right i know what you're saying i guess like i'll say like but even with like olivia right who sang with me olivia o'brien and i don't think i would ever ask her to sing with me like she wanted to sing and i was like wait really like no one wants to sing especially a singer i wouldn't ask to sing with me because again that's like their craft and like they don't think I would ever ask her to sing with me. Like she wanted to sing and I was like, wait, really? Like no one wants to sing. Especially a singer I wouldn't ask to sing with me because, again, that's like their craft. And like they don't want to – like if they're not like pitch perfect, they haven't practiced, they haven't warmed up, maybe they don't want their voice to sound like a certain way. I don't know.

That's just like in my head. For me, it's just cringy. Like I don't want that tape to get out there and be like, wow, Trisha's really just singing to anybody. No one cares. I don't know. Something like that. It's just – I don't know. Right?

I would – yeah. No. I think it's even one of my favorite clips on tiktok is do you know rainy rodriguez yes of course yeah queen oh you know it that's all i know speaking over there're like, I don't know Spanish. I'm no Sambo kid. But you're like, I was learning it today because it's like literally so catchy. But even that song is like a little awkward when she says on the red carpet. But I do love when she ends it and she's like, Something like that.

It was very like. Slayed. Slayed. But also awkward. Yeah. Confident for sure. Love it. I want to do a remix of it.

It's so good. But that one, the Halsey one, I always saw it. I was like, oh my god, that's so cringy. I feel so bad for that 2010 emo kid that has to stay out there forever. And then someone was like, it's Halsey. I was like, what the hell? I'm more iconic. I feel bad for this 2010 show.

Yeah, because I was like, oh no. It's probably this embarrassing thing that someone did years ago. They hate it. It's out there. I wonder if she ever commented on it. It's not embarrassing. She did. Oh, she did.

She tweeted about it. Yeah. Oh, she did. Don't waste it. What did she say? She said, OK, okay so the mall video let's get into it i was a teenager and i had never sang in front of people like that before and i had terrible stage fright so my voice was shaking even though it was a mom not a stage i actually don't mind because it's sort of sweet i guess it is sweet it is sweet but that's what i'm saying it's kind of like she's never sang in front

of people so it's like this shaky voice that it's endearing, especially now that you're a superstar and you made your name off being a singer. That's cool. But I always saw that clip and I'm like, oh my God. Clips of me singing when I was younger, I'd be so embarrassed by. I mean, I wouldn't care, but I guess I don't make my career off singing. I was going to say clips that you sing, but meanwhile, you have crazy clips of you out there.

I guess it's just different when you're a singer. You know what I mean? I don't know. Not just me. Just like, eh, you know what I mean like I don't know not just me just like you know no but definitely would never sing to you don't ask never ask me in public to sing to you that's so embarrassing for everybody involved in like including my that's a good PSA cause I would think

that you would be down to sing cause you always are trying to get people to sing with you here so I feel like people would think that you'd be wanting to sing I guess if it's like not my own song maybe possibly but it'd be like singing with them and they couldn't be like just filming me I don't know you'd be wanting to sing. I guess if it's, like, not my own song, maybe, possibly. But it'd be, like, singing with them. And they couldn't be, like, just filming me. I don't know.

It'd be, like, I don't know. I can't. No one's ever asked. We'll say it that way. That's never been a circumstance. And, like, thank God for that. You know what I mean? But, you know, if you want to sing to me, that's fine.

Like, if you're a fan that wants to sing to me. Like a Harry. Like a Harry Daniels. Yeah, totally. Harry Daniels. Like, all day. He's, like, the industry plant. Oh, to sing to me like a harry like yeah yeah harry daniel slay all day he's like the industry plant oh my god should i talk well i don't know i guess what i'm talking about did you do it i didn't the person wants me on their podcast we want to talk about it i don't know if i should the in the group chat the person who wanted me on their podcast yeah is that crazy i live i think it's camp but that's just me but then i actually have

said i don't like this person. Not her. I just think I don't get it. Yeah. I think it's whatever. I'm like, I don't get you, but I'm going to come on. I think this is a situation where the rule applies where if I ever talk bad about you, but you like me, then I like you again.

Yeah, same. Okay. Yeah. So maybe I'll just say that. You don't know what the angle is because different interview has different angles. So you don't know what... The way they presented it too was just like, just pick a place.

It was like... Okay, I'm setting it up. Maybe that's how it happened. Maybe that's how the original happened. They're like, go, come to my bed. I should. Maybe in the bed.

She probably doesn't know. Anyways, people might know, but whatever. I would live. I would live. I think it's fun. This is the summer of like, let's work it out on the remix

to quote Lorde and Charlie XCX. Yeah. You know, it's like. This is the summer of like, let's work it out on the remix to quote Lord and Charlie XCX. You know, it's like brat summer. Yeah. Girls squashing beef, especially when it's like unserious. We talk about people, people talk about us.

Does it really matter at the end of the day? That's all I think. And that's like, we talked about that, right? Like people like Jake or Weber, like saying he didn't like me, like interesting guys annoying.

Like I do think it is like, yeah, it's a circle of life here on social media. It's like, you know, you talk about someone and you know, then you collab then you collab you're like okay you're kind of cool because the truth is everybody probably is kind of cool like i'm sure like again we haven't dug deep into james i need to like re-watch everything i'm still ick by james as of now but but it's like

yeah you probably meet him he's probably like like david doberk too we'll put that as an example like you meet him and he's like yeah he's charming like people like him and he's charming and great and you know it's like i don't know you meet someone they're's like, yeah, he's charming. Like, people like him and he's charming and great. And, you know, it's like, I don't know. You meet someone, they're probably nice to you. Like, they're probably, especially if they're social media people, there's a reason people like them. So, anyways, maybe I'll do it. I think it's camp. I feel like even with Garnett, I was just like, hey, just so you know, there's definitely a clip of me being like, you're annoying.

I feel like, hey, I'll be here gardening. Join me. Yeah, gardening. Yeah, like something very maybe i'll eat she's becoming more like female based so maybe i like that she's turning yeah with girls she seems to be a little more um like real yeah not so character the problem is as a character it's just hard for me to interact with as i know you've said that yeah terry joe was a exception but i think even with like i said colleen's face is just like i the marina sings i

just don't i can't don't want to interact with that but said it then and said it now but you know characters are just interesting in general there was one on impulsive who was that guy did you see that there was like a weird guy that people say as a character but it's not donald trump no it just came out recently it was like don't know. He's like kind of big on TikTok. And the whole thing was like this bit. He's like, what are you guys doing after this? And they're like, they were silent. He's like, okay, I'm going to go.

You didn't see that? No, I saw it. I saw it. Isn't he like an OG YouTuber? Oh, I have no idea. Tyler O'Brien. Matt. Tyler was on there.

Wasn't Matt something? No, but I know what you mean. Yeah. And then they're like, are you a character? And he's like, no. And then he was obviously being a character, I think. And they have weird people. I was like, like you said,

they're having Trump on, but then you have this guy. Like, it's kind of weird. Did the Trump one come out or didn't come up yet? It did. It just came up on my for you page on YouTube.

I haven't seen any clips about it. I haven't seen any clips about it either. You got like 5 million views as of now. That's crazy it hasn't been clipped unless TikTok doesn't like allow those clips or something. But like, you think it'd be clipped.

Or it's like a different side of TikTok that we're not on. Yeah. Yeah. I saw like a little bit of the debates, but like nothing. Yeah. It's wild that, again, the straight man privilege, I guess. Right. I feel like your tweet when you were just like, oh, Joe Biden looked like Britney Spears.

Oh, my God. So you've been Logan Paul. Wow. Worst takeout. Yeah. Logan Paul is Donald Trump. I'm like yeah it is wild you're right i mean in politics you're always going to be 50 wrong you know it's

always going to be half of humanity that'll be against you i saw the story so there is a tiktoker her name is zina it just came across my fyp page i wasn't looking i never looked for zach justice clips if anything i like always held off we talked about him on patreon but i kind of always held off on talking about him because obviously he does dropouts you guys know I love Tara so like it's not a reflection of her I don't really watch dropouts like that so I don't I don't know any of this I didn't know the back history of any of this um also obviously like you know there's people that are friends with him but I don't think that those people should be held but I was like held off because I just you know I didn't know too much about it but when he came for that the tiktoker

Zena who was talking about this I was kind of like this is a red flag this is something where it should be like looked at further yeah so her uh handle is Xena Wina and it's like a lot of we should put it on the screen because it's a lot of vowels yeah um she's like not she's like a smaller tiktoker she's not like a huge creator i think the original tiktok that she did had like a thousand views she said when um zach had seen it so it was a smaller tiktok and she basically was just doing like a timeline of zach justice's like friend friendship to relationship pipeline with indiana um who was like the original co-host of dropouts um and her whole angle was just like this is strange that's pretty much just what she was saying she wasn't like accusing of anything illegal she was just saying the whole point was basically it's just weird that you knew someone when they were 14 and you

lived with them and then um you ended up dating them that was basically the gist because they weren't just co-hosts they dated yes yes um and then like when she was 18 yes but also yeah but also what his age because it's not like a high school sweetheart you know yeah there's how old was he when he was seven years different so 21 when he first and they go back and forth he says we didn't start dating until we were 20 but there's obviously like tiktoks of them like where he's like smacking her butt when she's about to turn 19 and so zach um saw this tikt TikTok again when it was just like a thousand views. And then he found Zina like on Instagram and started like contacting her there. And he basically like reached out.

He was like, this is a very situation like call me about it, which is like it's a lot to like reach out to a stranger. And then. Yeah. And I get from his perspective, like obviously, like if you think someone is like it's a lot to like reach out to a stranger and then yeah and i get from his perspective like obviously like if you think someone is like spreading like misinformation about you and you think that you can like explain it at least to his benefit they are like you know reaching out to someone to kind of like you know communicate and get like his point across like obviously he has a right to defend himself but the calling and like he was very

adamant that like they need to talk on the phone about it um which is just like kind of odd for especially for like you know a random this is not like a huge creator with like a humongous platform yeah she's replying like you know i'm at a hair appointment i can't like i'll just dm like i would never call just like a random influencer and talk to them or whatever but also like he was he that's when he starts seeing the manipulation he's like i would never manipulate someone and then like literally three down he's like if you cared you'd call me or something like that i was like he, that's when he starts seeing the manipulation. He's like, I would never manipulate someone. And then, like, literally three down, he's like, if you cared, you'd call me or something like that. And I was like, she doesn't know you.

She's having a conversation with you in the DMs. Like, it was just so weird, that whole thing. He's like, I knew it. You did it for the views, which, like you said, had, like, a thousand views at the time. He also said that she's like, oh, and you called me a PDF file. And she's like, I never did. Like, that was one projection on his point. Like, why?

She never said that. And then two, it's like, you make PDF file jokes all the time. Like, it was just, yeah, it's hard. Because's like really well liked and when you go against someone that's like really not even against just like here's the thing right like I in this like I was trying to think like the point of all this like to bring it up because he will argue like you know that whatever I just think it's more of like it's a moment to talk about because all this is public they're acting like it's not like none of this is wrong when it is wrong and then my biggest red flag was him coming after the tiktoker which i feel like indiana actually wasn't her dm to the tiktoker wasn't as bad as zax i thought zax was like he made my blood boil i thought indiana was pretty much just like i want to talk and then

at that but um yeah and his like explanation about it is like you know separating like the dark jokes from like like, reality. He said, you can hate my dark jokes totally fine, but insinuating I would ever or have done anything so vile is damaging to real victims. Indiana will also talk to you as well if you'd like, but it needs to be a call. The whole damaging to real victims thing also just irks me because that's also, like, super, like, manipulative and, like, gaslighting and stuff like that. Because it's, like, she's not, once again, that's why I'm saying I'm not saying Indiana's a victim. If this is one in a thousand cases where she's like, I don't feel victimized, it was totally fine, perfect, whatever, whatever. Like that's fine if that's what she thinks and she stands by it.

But it's also like it's not demeaning to real victims because real victims of the situation happens because they think it's totally normal. Like myself, I'll put myself in the situation. Mine actually happened with like a teacher multiple times. But it's like when I was 13, I thought like oh it was cool like I thought the teacher was cute I thought oh my god an older man paying attention to me like I thought everything was fine there's like and then I had I have had three different teachers and there was some that I was like you know at the time oh it's kind of weird they're touching me but then there was some that

I was like I really enjoyed whatever time it was and you think it's like completely normal but obviously later on felt victim to it because like I didn't understand that I wasn't normal and then I was like whatever again if Indiana still like you know it's like that whatever the bottom line two things one is like obviously like him being I when I talked to Zena I DM'd her and I talked to her because I commented like this is wild and she's like oh like thanks for commenting or whatever like no one's talking about this so then I just asked her like you know I'm going to probably talk about the podcast is there anything you want to convey and she's like really just like his aggressiveness towards her she goes I just wanted to come across like how aggressive

he was towards me because it's like I literally didn't call him any of these things like I'm just pointing out facts that are like public information which that was got my eye a little more is because I was like okay why are they going so hard and projecting like her saying oh you're presenting wrong information when she didn't she and she sent she sent, she sent all of this stuff to me. Like the comments he made before she turned 18 were obviously very flirty on her Instagram. There was like so many, so many things that they clearly had a friendship. And he said it himself. He was like on her, she was about to have an 18th birthday. They were going to celebrate it with her. So you're clearly friends with this person before they're 18, but he acted like with her, like they weren't. And I think for me, which we always talk about

is like being friends with people that are underage when you're of age. Like there's like no excuse for that. There's like no reason to be friends with this girl that's like underage. You know what I mean? Like it's like if she's in this abusive relationship, which they said she was, it's like, you know, you contact, you know, her mother, her parents, someone to do something about it. It's like you as the boy.

So then let's say, right, he saved her from this abusive relationship right but then they they said then I started to develop feelings for her and I feel like that also is like a red flag because like you just don't allow yourself to develop feelings for someone you knew as a child who also you knew to be in an abusive situation she just survived this abusive relationship and now but you just like don't allow yourself to have those feelings you know I don't I don't think that's like an excuse like these feelings just started developing because you just don't allow yourself to have those feelings you know I don't I don't think that's like an excuse like these feelings just started developing because you just don't allow it right like you know you have a what really crazed I think it was number 141 of dropouts the deleted episode you sent me where he was like he said to her it's like they're like talking about their

breakup he's like I felt like I was raised like I wasn't dating you I was raising you and I was like that's the problem that is like the problem all of? It's like if you feel that type of way, if you feel like you're raising this girl, you have to like teach her things, help her. That's like the problem. And you knew her as a girl, as a child, and you're helping a child when like that's not really your place when like, you know, you have parents and you knew her mom, you know, all that stuff like that. So I think there's so many issues. The fact that that they're i'll say zach's trying to defend it because you know indiana i don't you know again i don't i don't really want to like get into whatever however she thinks zach's the adult zach's what 29 now and so he's like he's very much adult like and the fact that he was so

all the texts he exchanged with this girl was like so so manipulative it was so crazy even at the end when he's like i actually have some quotes on this too because it was actually like wild um says um the point is basically they go back and forth for a while then when xena basically like won't like just let up about the fact that she was just pointing out you know the facts he says the point is why do you try to find the negative in life but i hope whatever is going on in your personal life you heal from and become happy with yourself yeah like that's so gaslighting manipulative all of that like it's very much like i'll pray for you like you're obviously hurting it's like you're looking for the name

like there's no negative she's like this is weird which it is you're 29 years old like i'm 36 year old like it's weird anyone will tell you we said it with Tati with James she's 38 being friends with a 16 year old it's just weird like I don't know you like if it goes beyond like collaboration like whatever there's there's a video still up on Indiana's channel when she was 16 and it's like romantic questions and it's Zach and the other guy from Dropout so it's like it was weird you guys there was a flirty context to it even if it wasn't. Like it's, I don't know. It's like this weird thing where like influencers can just do it.

We talked about Dr. Disrespect on Patreon where it's just like I don't know why they think. One, I don't know why it is that they're drawn to like underage girls, like right underage girls, like teenage girls. And two, it's like you don't form a friendship with them. Like I don't know. And again, it's not even like a straight boy with a straight girl it's like tati a straight woman talking to a colleen with adam you know a straight woman with a gay boy like it's just it's just like inappropriate to have any sort of like level of that because i mean it could be debated or whatever but it is a power imbalance in the sense even if they're not famous or anything that someone's older and that's it like there's that

power dynamic of that yeah and to kind of like clean up the timeline so in case anyone like doesn't know so basically um zach was hired by indiana's mom because indiana um was like a content creator when she was younger like starting at 14 she was on an awesomeness tv show um so she had like a really young fan base obviously zach was hired by his mom by her mom um and then they lit zach also like as a part of the job he lived in the same like apartment um and then where it gets like weird is that like he and like his explanation to xena and like the dm said that he just like worked for the mom briefly and that he didn't have much of a relationship. He didn't even have like a friendship with her until she was 18, which like is just like proven false just because like she was 17 when they started dropouts. You don't start a podcast with someone you don't know.

And then also his like post, he posted a tiktok for her 18th birthday and it was like photos of their like friendship together and they're obviously very close i think there was one where he had like a photo of um them as his wallpaper on his phone so like obviously they have like a deep connection already before she turned 18 and there's a video on her channel when they're 16. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, regardless of, like, obviously they say it's just friendship, like, really anything romantic didn't happen until after. They still have, like, a deep friendship before she turned 18.

It should also be noted, it doesn't also, like, absolve you. Just be like, we waited until they were 18. Like, that doesn't mean it's just like, okay. Like, I mean, Wilmer felt around while he was using X-T. It's like a lot of people would be like, we waited until they were 18. It's like, okay, so you knew them before. Like, just because you're, like, waiting. Okay, now it's just like, okay. Like, I mean, Wilmer felt around while he was using X-T. It's like a lot of people would be like, we waited until they were 18. It's like, okay, so you knew them before. Like, just because you're like waiting. Okay, now it's fine.

It's like, obviously, you had some sort of like, I don't know. You don't just meet someone when they turn 18. Especially because they were talking about spending her 18th birthday together. So, and then she ended up spending it with her ex-boyfriend. So, I was like, you know, I don't know. To me, it's just, that's what I don't like is when people just try to, one, lie about it. Two, try to excuse the behavior. It's like.

Yeah. I think, too, it's also odd because at first they had to know it was weird because for, at the beginning when they were dating and, like, didn't go public with it. Obviously, when she was 18, whatever. Like, they were perpet was 18 whatever like they were perpetuating this idea that they were um siblings so that also has a really weird element like i was like looking back at all the comments on like zach's like birthday tiktok they're like oh there's brother and sister blah blah blah and um there's like fan edits of them like people were making like shipping them before they were, like, public.

And everyone's like, this is so weird. They're brother and sister. And then, like, it's so that is a weird element to it. Then there was other, like, screenshots where once they did become public that, like, nothing happened. So she was 20, which is just, like, it's proven false through, like, the different, you know, photos. Yeah, everything they have yeah it's just like you they have such a long thing of content so it's hard to like you know disprove the timeline of like a friendship to relationship pipeline and she said in that deleted episode now and

of the dropouts podcast is like she said she was scared to tell her family about it which was I thought was like a red flag right there and then she would tell her family that he was like obsessive and she like wasn't into him but then in that same episode she's like but that wasn't true like it was just such a weird dynamic and also again as being the older person in this relationship like that him like having her sit down and basically like take the blame for their entire relationship and even if she is like the worst person ever as they described in that podcast like oh she was so abusive to me she was this that like you know emotionally abusive or verbally abusive or whatever it's like why would you still want her to like sit there and like relive all this and have to talk about it because they kept saying we don't have to talk about what happened the big one that you did with us or

whatever but basically like said that she like cheated like insinuated that and so I'm just like making her like really she's like crying she's breaking down she's clearly she I think she called herself she's like she thought she was this broken girl because she had this abusive relationship and just like posting that like it just it felt very like wrong on a lot of levels like obviously she's like triggered sitting next to me she's crying she's upset about it and stuff like that and then posting it and making her take all the blame and basically just saying like you did this you did this and not saying anything i was like this seems a little sus i don't know the whole thing was weird he definitely was like savior like i a little sus. I don't know. The whole thing was weird. He definitely was like,

savior. Like, I saved her. I tried to do this and I was scared. And what was the purpose of it? Like, who is it for? It sounds so personal.

I think it was. Relationship between them. Why is everyone? She was very much like, Zach's a great person. They told me I could still continue the podcast. It was very much

just like protecting him. I mean, it's weird because like i said even if the case is that she just verbally abused him and she was just awful and stuff like that to make make her sit down and do this like she's still young was she born 2002 so she's i think she's gonna turn 22 this year she's 21 so when was that like a year ago or something she's like a 20 year old girl you're like a 28 year old man and you're like making her do all this stuff and like i don't know imagine the person who didn't even know on tiktok how he was talking to her you can only imagine how he's

talking to this girl behind the scenes the way he was talking to her and being like if you cared you'd call i knew it you were just doing it for views like all that stuff i mean you don't first of all don't even know this person she owes absolutely nothing to you and the way you're manipulating that like right above it he's like i would never manipulate anyone and then like the whole thing was just that and just like praying for like literally like oh hope like yeah he said you find validation in hurting others you'll heal in time but it takes work that's what he said to Xena I was like who the are you like it just yeah hope whatever is going on in your personal life you heal and become happy like it's it's it's that to me was so oh I like made my blood boil and she had

said that was like her main thing is like why why oh it's also noted she said that her tiktoks have been taken down like people have been reporting it and they're trying to suppress all this stuff like that so she was like kind of scared because her tiktok was gonna is I think had like a strike on it so hopefully tiktok can like look into that because she goes I literally said nothing that wasn't public like I showed the instagram like all the comments of him like leaving flirty comments before she was 18 so she thought you know she's like I just don't like that it's being reported that I can't talk about this um so I think silencing people one is like my biggest pet peeve like I that like is so annoying like someone calling someone and

being like hey we're cool right or something like that like I hate that um and then two just I don't know like also involving Indiana I don't know the whole thing and then trying to be like you know you this is damaging to real victims and stuff like this is like no like you also are part of the problem and this is how it happens it's how people get victimized because they don't like 13 year olds 14 year olds don't think it's wrong to be friends with a 24 year old they think it's cool and I thought it was cool everyone thinks it's cool and maybe it didn't work out for them like I said maybe if Indiana's like you know he's the best guy ever okay but it doesn't mean like it usually in these cases there's a power imbalance and there's abusive power and a grooming thing and all that stuff like

that so and like I said I said it with the Tati and James thing I do think there was this like like him being 16 and looking up to her being like a 38 year old married and stuff like there was a power imbalance based on age so and I saw a little bit in there like you know you can analyze how you want but they you know they're like I guess their point is they get upset that people are analyzing this but like you guys put that out there like you did a whole sit down video being like you're the worst one in this relationship here's why Indiana sucks and she's verbally abusive like that was the whole thing and in my head it was totally the opposite when I watched it I'm like this girl is like so broken.

She's like crying. She's so upset. Like, you know, and again, I'm using her word broken. Like obviously I don't think she is and stuff like that. And she was young. And if she's in an abusive relationship as a teenager, that sucks. Like all that like really traumatizing. So it just was like very odd.

I really hate this whole thing with like this TikToker who like said has like 11 000 followers and zach who has this huge following just trying to like it's weird he did it all like privately with her too like why are you i don't know just like the barbara's trying to in effect you know he was like please don't talk about this and now everyone talks about it it's like yeah he's like i don't want this on the internet and stuff like that and i was just like granted like again it's like what is the point of us right like It's like. Yeah. He's like, I don't want this on the internet and stuff like that. And I was just like, granted, like, again, it's like, what is the point of us? Right? Like, it's like, it's she, again, it's her like silencing this girl who's like, this is weird.

I agreed. I was like, this is wild. This is weird. Like, is Zach Justice going to be canceled? Like, maybe not for this, but there's a lot of things. Maybe he's like, we talked about this all done, but he definitely should. Like, you know, he talks about his dark jokes, but it's like making PDF jokes about Tara and, you know, the racist jokes he's made that people themselves will say, I'm not comfortable

with it. He'll like use it as excuse. He's like, oh, she would laugh at it or whatever. And it's like when that person's like, no, it's not. Then it just becomes racist. It's no longer like a joke. It's really just like racist. And when there's like no apology for it, then it just feels like you're a sh** person.

You know what I mean? So obviously not everyone loves your dark jokes. I'm bringing up the, I won't say the joke, but one with Fenita who's like I don't like this joke. So where's the apology? You can't just say people appreciate it. She didn't and there was no apology and then it just becomes racist. It becomes – the PDF jokes about Tara like becomes like a little too like real. There was one where like a 13-year-old was on the – or a young person on the podcast.

He's like she's 13 and she had a normal weekend for – who's the co-host name? Do you know? Steven maybe. He's like it's a normal weekend for steven jared maybe okay yeah and so it's just like there it's really not jokes and i feel like it's 2024 where you're not howard stern you're not being edgy you're not helping people through their trauma by saying tara is like a pdf's dream you know what i mean like that's i don't know it's also why, then why the whole thing is very off-putting and he's off-putting and like, again, gets away with so much for what? Like it's not because you're a comedian. Like it's just, they're just, because the stuff you're saying isn't like in joke format either. It's just, it's gross and weird.

And again, not to, not to be like what, okay, well obviously Indiana's fine with it, but I guess it's just a perfect example of like, this is weird like it's just weird we see it with the gamers with people at vidcon all these young girls who like who idolize these people so it's just another thing where i'll just keep talking about it because it's like these young girls idolize it and then later on you see them upset because they felt used or they felt like they were maybe manipulated into something they didn't want to do or something like that because they're young and they like look up to these people. Even Jojo with Colleen, she feels nothing was wrong about it because she was the one that was, that's what groomed. It's like not necessarily sexual, but it's like shaping the way they think about something.

Yeah. It seems like he has a lot to say and analyze people. It's like, oh, like you must have fed her throughout the years so much about herself and him. Well, it's a perfect example of JoJo because, like, nothing's wrong with that. And then when I think it was Howie or someone's like, well, would you be friends with a 13-year-old fan? It's like, no. Yeah, because it's weird. Like, everything about it is just a weird dynamic.

Like, you just shouldn't be no matter how mature someone is. And just because you're, like, magically way to the 18. Like, oh, we didn't get together until we were 18. It like yeah but you knew them and they're that's and that's all xena was saying too is like it's just weird like you just knew this person when they were a child you could have babysat them legally i guess if you're talking about you don't want to go to prison okay yeah but also when just because they turned 18 that day doesn't like absolve you of being a perv like a creeper like when you're that old and you're with this like as zach said in one interview a freshly turned 18 like he's like she was a fresh 18 and like when you're that old and you're with this like – as Zach said in one interview, a freshly turned 18.

Like he's like she was a fresh 18. And I remember – what was that podcast? Someone was interviewing him. He was like, why did you say it like that? The Sit and Chat. Sit and Chat? Yeah. What is that one?

It's hosted by the guy – he used to be on Good Luck Charlie on the Disney channel. That's all I know. Because he even said – he's like, why did you say freshly 18? Like that was – and again, those verbiage, those kind of things are a little, like, alarming and a little, like, red flag-ish right there. And I think the bottom line is if you feel like you're raising the person you're dating, like, you just should not be dating them. Yeah.

That's it. And I don't know. Like I said, no one's talking about this, so probably no one will care. And he's liked and he's, like, a good-looking kid's not even a kid he's literally 29 which is also crazy because he does seem he acts young in these tiktoks with her so I do kind of think of him as like maybe like a tan age like a 26 but I'm like oh no he's like 29 which is a again a big difference 26 29 is a big difference like you're almost a 30 year old man like it's a pretty big difference and then that from 21 29 21 is like actually crazy especially when you knew her when she was 14.

Lived with her on that. Yeah. But anyways, best of luck. I found Indiana through this. I think she's like, you know, she seems like she has to do a big thing. She seems like she's an actress and she's like an influencer and she seems, hopefully, you know, she seems good. Yeah.

Yeah. I think she's dating someone like her age now as well. So that's perfect. And that's great. We love that. It just you know that's it right happy four i'm sure this episode was so fun everyone's like thank you for this i was already not doing anything for the fourth of july and feeling miserable and i'm watching this and feeling worse so what fun? Did we have any fun topics? We had none. Young Sheldon was spoiled. Politics.

James Charles problematic. Everything was just sad. Talk to a girl. She was the shining light today. She's getting American. Yeah. So we'll try and have some fun. It was crazy.

Wow. Yeah. Well, we'll have some fun news It was crazy. Wow. Yeah. Well, we'll have some fun news for you on. Next week. Next week. Thanks, guys, for tuning in. Thank you, SeatGeek, for sponsoring. And we'll see you in the next one.

Bye. We never did our Star Swingle banner. Did we want to sing it? Or does it matter? If they stayed this long after the producer credits. Oh, say can you see. Are we all singing? I want you to really take it. No, but we'll get into it.

I think we should do a little roundabout where we each do a line. Oh, say can you see. He's looking at the words. By the dawns. I mean, you could finish a line if you want. That was good though. What so proudly we hailed. At the twilight.

No. Yeah, that was right. It's like a question. At the twilight's last gleaming. Who brought stripes? And bright stars? Through the perilous fight. I'm getting all the hard ones.

Or the rampants we watched. We're so gallantly. Oh, wait. Sorry. Go, Moses. We're so gallantly yeah steaming what these are the words what do you say it says we're so gallantly yeah steaming do i have the right i thought it was streaming i thought it was gleaming oh wait maybe you're right and the rockets And the rocket's red glare. Let's do harmony. The bombs bursting in air.

Gained proof through the night. Our flag was still there. Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the brave Play ball. That was good. I think we nailed it. Okay.

So many words I've never... What's O-E-R? Or. Or. What is that? Maybe it's a conjunction. I don't know. That's it. Is it going at the beginning or the end? The head bend.